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A U.S. Army soldier from Task Force Denali Platoon 1-40 CAV fires a 60mm mortar towards the mountain while Afghan army soldiers cover their ears during a patrol at Nadir-Chawcod district in Khowst province. (Zohra Bensemra/Reuters)

By Ben Pershing
With tensions running high in the Senate amid a grueling schedule, Democrats are trying to make political hay out of Republicans' failed effort to filibuster the defense spending bill.

The Senate voted at 1 a.m. Friday to invoke cloture on the $626 billion measure funding the Pentagon, a key procedural step that will allow the chamber to vote on final passage Saturday morning. The motion passed, 63-33, with just three Republicans joining every Senate Democrat to move the debate forward.

Within hours of the vote, the Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee was seeking to make Republicans up for reelection pay for their opposition, blasting out releases to the homestate media of Sens. Richard Burr (N.C.), Jim DeMint (S.C.), Charles Grassley (Iowa) and David Vitter (La.).

"IN DEAD OF NIGHT, RICHARD BURR VOTES TO BLOCK FEDERAL FUNDS FOR TROOPS, MILITARY PAY INCREASES," read the headline of the DSCC's North Carolina release , which added that Burr "put partisan politics above funding our troops by voting to support a filibuster" of the defense measure.

It has become commonplace in recent years for each party on Capitol Hill to accuse the other of disrespecting the military based on how lawmakers vote on the annual defense spending bill or the supplemental measures that have been used to fund the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. In June, for example, nearly every House Republican voted against a supplemental war funding bill because it also contained money they opposed for the International Monetary Fund. Democrats accused the GOP of voting against the troops, while Republicans alleged Democrats were passing controversial legislation on the backs of American soldiers.

In the case of Friday morning's vote, Senate Republicans voted against cloture not because they opposed the defense spending bill but rather so they could maintain a united front against Democrats' efforts to pass a health-care bill before Christmas. The longer it takes the chamber to consider the defense bill, the longer it will be before the Senate returns to health care. And in that context, Republicans see their votes as easily defensible.

"I can't blame [Democrats] for trying to distract from the health care debate which has become politically disastrous for them," said Brian Walsh, spokesman for the National Republican Senatorial Committee. "But all of these Senators have very strong records on supporting our military. People recognize that this filibuster was about slowing the Democrats' massive government health-care bill which Harry Reid is intent on ramming through the Senate before Christmas."

Nearly every Senate Republican is expected to vote for the defense bill on final passage, and Stuart Rothenberg, editor of the Rothenberg Political Report, said he doubted whether any of the four targeted Republicans would be badly hurt by Democrats' accusations simply because of one procedural vote.

"They all have reputations and images, and if they have reputations, it's for being willing to vote for ... all military spending," Rothenberg said. "I think it's difficult to paint them as not supportive of the troops."

But Democrats' current message goes beyond just Friday morning's vote. The majority is attempting to paint the minority's entire approach to the health-care debate as obstructionist, with the defense cloture vote being just the latest example.

"We are here in the middle of the night, but the reason is as clear as day: Senate Republicans so desperately want to turn their backs on Americans who are suffering and dying for want of decent health care, that they are threatening to turn their backs on America's troops at wartime," Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) said on the chamber floor. "Rarely has the Senate seen such a sad statement. Rarely have I seen such brazen irresponsibility. And rarely have our nation's citizens received such little regard from their leaders."

Republicans believe the obstructionist charge will be more than outweighed by their argument that Democrats are rushing a vital bill through the Senate with little scrutiny.

"The Majority Leader has signaled that he will finally unveil the most significant piece of domestic legislation in modern history some time on Saturday -- and force a vote in the middle of the night about 36 hours later," said Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.)

"This is outrageous."

By Ben Pershing  |  December 18, 2009; 1:45 PM ET
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dudh wrote:
"Sunbun, you're right. BUT..
Obama isn't just a communist fascist muslim Hitler, he's also a capitalist pig supporting the banks and Wall Street against the people..."
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I'm "right" about what?

I was mocking conservatives who believe Obama is a communist Muslim Hitler, or the anti-Christ, or whatever else they dream up. And now you add capitalist pig.

Is it too much to ask that you get a grip on reality? Obama is none of those things.

You don't have to like him, but really, do you think it helps your case against his policies to turn him into a cartoon character?

Posted by: SunBun | December 19, 2009 12:22 AM | Report abuse

Sunbun, you're right. BUT..
Obama isn't just a communist fascist muslim Hitler, he's also a capitalist pig supporting the banks and Wall Street against the people...
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I'm "right" about what?

I was mocking conservatives who believe Obama is a communist Muslim Hitler, or the anti-Christ, or whatever else they dream up. And now you add capitalist pig.

Is it too much to ask that you get a grip on reality? Obama is none of those things.

You don't have to like him, but really, do you think it helps your case against his policies to turn him into a cartoon character?

Posted by: SunBun | December 18, 2009 11:43 PM | Report abuse

After Obongo and his side kick Dr Evil with her pinky up yelling 100 billion dollars in Copenhagen for an apocolypto mindset to please the earth god flea circus show, the Democrats shrunk in half again.
10% of the people are remaining in the Party.

The people say No

The troops say NO

All Hail Obongo is over.

Posted by: dottydo | December 18, 2009 11:17 PM | Report abuse

After Obongo and his side kick Dr Evil with her pinky up yelling 100 billion dollars in Copenhagen for an apocolypto mindset to please the earth god flea circus show, the Democrats shrunk in half again.
10% of the people are remaining in the Party.

The people say No

The troops say NO

All Hail Obango is over.

Posted by: dottydo | December 18, 2009 11:16 PM | Report abuse

Why are the evil and dark Democrats holding troop money hostages to dismantle the USA with taxation without representation for the Unborn?
Troops are saying they do not want money only to lose the US Constitutional Republic in the deal.

The Troops say NO.

They haven't died or risked it for this end to the USA.

Posted by: dottydo | December 18, 2009 11:12 PM | Report abuse

What has happened to the Republican party? I am disgusted that they would hold our brave soldiers hostage over something as petty as partisan politics. Those men and women are facing REAL warfare, and all these 37 egomaniacs can think of is partisan warfare.

The American people have only 63 Senators.

Partisanship has robbed us of the other 37.

Posted by: NationofLaws | December 18, 2009 10:48 PM | Report abuse

The Republicans invented the ridiculous argument that if you oppose something they want you are committing "treason" and not supporting the troops. Don't give me this "both parties do it" malarky. Now the Republicans are truly playing partisan right-wing politics with our troops and the media cast this as a transparent political ploy BY THE DEMOCRATS! This is yet another example of how the corporate-wing Republican noise machine. Liberal media my a**.

Posted by: ejs2 | December 18, 2009 10:34 PM | Report abuse

The new Christmas miracle 2009 has arrived to blizzard this Devil's work Congress out of the place.

Epic movie contract.

Global freezing halts global warming money.


Posted by: dottydo | December 18, 2009 10:30 PM | Report abuse

Now is the time for the liberals to stand tall. No defense funding bill without a public option for health care reform. Simple.

Posted by: fudador


LMAO!! No wonder there's less than 20% of the population that is liberal. Go ahead libs, we dare you!!

Posted by: cschotta1 | December 18, 2009 10:14 PM | Report abuse

Now is the time for the liberals to stand tall. No defense funding bill without a public option for health care reform. Simple.

Posted by: fudador | December 18, 2009 10:10 PM | Report abuse

Todays democRAT party:

"Our Marines are murderers"
"How dare we waterboard to save the lives of others"
"We can't win in Iraq"
"The war is lost"

Posted by: cschotta1 | December 18, 2009 10:04 PM | Report abuse

Insurance company pimps are getting more and more impatient with the do-nothing republicans as the monumental defeat of healthcare reform looms. Insurance company pimps gave marching orders to do-nothing republicans to do nothing unless they were told to do so by their pimps.

Insurance company pimps included voting on a bill to fund U.S Armed forces in the field as work that was not authorized for their flunkies to do. They were not happy to see their lapdogs waste time on business not sanctioned by their pimps.

Posted by: DCSage | December 18, 2009 9:47 PM | Report abuse

Republicans' first thought: How can we profit from this?

Republicans' second thought: How can we avoid paying taxes on this?

Republicans' third thought: I wonder if Mark Foley left his little black book somewhere in the capitol building?

Posted by: Please_Fix_VAs_Roads | December 18, 2009 9:42 PM | Report abuse

I don't understand why people are upset, if Obama is the anti-Christ then he is god sent. I thought that is what the fascist-christian right wanted, the end of the world. So if you do believe he is the anti-Christ it is your christian duty not to obstruct him since he will bring the end of days. More too the point what the hell does the fact that he is the anti-Christ have to do with health care and the senate.

Posted by: beamerao | December 18, 2009 9:35 PM | Report abuse

33 snakes in the grass, slithering around. It is time to (electorally) cut their heads off with a shovel. These creatures serve no one but themselves. They just can't keep their heads on straight when times get exciting. Unlike my guy, Obama, who keeps pointing in the right direction. All you sneering Obama haters take a hike.

Posted by: larry9 | December 18, 2009 9:32 PM | Report abuse

The democRAT party acting like it cares about the military, is like Bill Clinton acting like he cares about prosecuting rapists!

Posted by: cschotta1 | December 18, 2009 9:20 PM | Report abuse

Sunbun, you're right. BUT..
Obama isn't just a communist fascist muslim Hitler, he's also a capitalist pig supporting the banks and Wall Street against the people, and a far leftist intent on destroying the government, values, and people of our country. Thank God we have Rush Limbaugh and Sarah Palin to tell us this.
In fact, the man is known to keep a copy of the Bible, so he is an ignorant, rightwing fundamentalist whacko, and I've heard, considers himself of black, white, American, African, Asian(Hawaii)heritage. We know what that means. Plus, in South Carolina, I hear tell, they call him a liar, and at least one individual down there is set to destroy his presidency because he wants (and this is a laugh) to "reform" our real American (love it or leave it)health care home visits by your personal doctor system that we now have and illegal immigrants want.
I could say more, but I won't; let the tea baggers speak for me from here on..

Posted by: dudh | December 18, 2009 8:46 PM | Report abuse

90% of al-Qaeda members approve of the US Congress, while only 28% of American's feel the same.

Posted by: Maddogg | December 18, 2009 8:37 PM | Report abuse

Typical Repubtard thinking:

Pretend to support the troops, then tell American's its ok for them to die early from lack of insurance.

Posted by: Maddogg | December 18, 2009 8:33 PM | Report abuse

no one on the hill cares about the truth..they twist everything to try and get reelected. I'm voting against anyone who is in there now, the dumos and repugos. Let's get some folks who care about America and its people.

Posted by: tonyjm | December 18, 2009 8:31 PM | Report abuse

The Republicans never cared for the military. They just wanted a war. Their insistent whining about the 3,000 dead on 9-11 is stupidity on display.

They whine and act stupid over 3,000 dead on 9-11 whilst they delare publicy that 45,000 American dead from lack of health insurance is ok. And then they say they support the military. That's a laugh.

Repubtards are sick in the head. Even I want to puke at the sound of a Repubtard.

Posted by: Maddogg | December 18, 2009 8:26 PM | Report abuse

Spread the word people. The mark of the beast on your forehead is when you accept the Anti-Christ through blind faith... People Obama is the Anti-Christ that you have all read about. You have been warned. Posted by: makom
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The anti-Christ? I thought Obama was a communist Muslim Hitler. I guess he's gotten an upgrade at Wacko Central.

Posted by: SunBun | December 18, 2009 8:04 PM | Report abuse

Since when have Republicans EVER put their (our) money where there mouths are regarding our military?
Was it when they sent them to war in Iraq without proper body armor or properly protected vehicles and then continued to refuse this equipment when called out on it?
Was it when the Post revealed the utterly deplorable conditions in the hospitals for our veterans?
Was it when they decided it was just fine to send our veterans back to war 3 or 4 or 5 times without proper rest and recovery?
Was it when they decided that it was a whole lot better to pay private contractors enormous sums of money to fight our wars while refusing to raise the pay of our soldiers?
Republicans are "businessmen" and are always out to make a profit for their corporate sponsors and themselves.
And, as "businessmen" they have very effective advertising departments and p.r. people to sell their bogus product.
Republican support for our military is entirely bogus.

Posted by: cms1 | December 18, 2009 7:57 PM | Report abuse

Why is the GOP willing to Kill US Soldiers?

Posted by: walker1 | December 18, 2009 7:55 PM | Report abuse

In June, for example, nearly every House Republican voted against a supplemental war funding bill because it also contained money they opposed for the International Monetary Fund.

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Why would a war funding bill have money for the IMF?

Posted by: thelaw1 | December 18, 2009 7:33 PM | Report abuse

Spread the word people. The mark of the beast on your forehead is when you accept the Anti-Christ through blind faith. The mark of the beast on your hand is when you accept the Anti-Christ through gifts. People Obama is the Anti-Christ that you have all read about. You have been warned. The future is not set and can go in two very different directions. Get involved and help stop this massive take over.

Posted by: makom | December 18, 2009 7:21 PM | Report abuse

I have GOP friends that think using funding for our fighting men is untouchable for any reason, let alone to slow down a health care bill. I happen to agree with them as do most Americans. They are seriously mis-reading the public thinking this won't affect the 2010 elections.

Posted by: jameschirico | December 18, 2009 7:21 PM | Report abuse

WAKE UP AMERICA!

Capitalism has failed us. It is killing the planet, too.

The GOP and Fox News are the weapons of the super rich who seek to enslave our people, the CEO's who think they are gods.

They are waging psychological warfare on the people of the United States of America. They are creating one of the most monstrous propaganda machines in the history of mankind.

STOP THEM NOW.

STOP PRETENDING AS IF THE REPUBLICAN PARTY WERE ANYTHING OTHER THAN THE INSTRUMENT OF OUR SWORN ENEMY.

Posted by: TheSimpleTruth | December 18, 2009 7:07 PM | Report abuse

This is the bill to which the COBRA healthcare subsidy for the unemployed is attached. Thanks to our hard working politicians for putting aside their petty partisan politics in favor of doing what's in the best interest of the American public during these difficult times. I hope my sarcasm is coming through loud and clear.

Posted by: cdarch | December 18, 2009 7:04 PM | Report abuse

Who cares? It's all an elaborate Kubuki Dance by the Democrat's and Republican's, anyways. Not one of them gives a rats behind about anything other than feathering their own nest. What I fail to believe is that anyone out there has the slightest shred of trust or hope in our "leaders". Obama and the Democrat's have presided over the largest raid on the U.S. Treasury in this nations history and they aren't done yet. Our sons and daughters, thousands more, are going to DIE because some ratbag corporate piece of filth can make money off it. It is now quite clear that during the last election we merely replaced a collection of Texas bandits with a new group of CHicago gangsters. This country isn't worth defending under the present two party system.

Posted by: mibrooks27 | December 18, 2009 7:02 PM | Report abuse

The extreme levels of military spending is one of the worst wastes of tax dollars in history. It if was cut 1 to 2%, most problems could be remedied. I believe it should be cut 5 to 10%. We cannot carry such a bloated system any longer.

Posted by: revbookburn | December 18, 2009 6:59 PM | Report abuse

It's pretty obvious!

The GOP hates the military and their families, laughs at the injured in military hospitals and will only be happy when al Qaeda is dancing in the streets of downtown Washington, DC.

In the inimitable words of Dick Cheney, on the floor of the House when he said to Patrick Leahy: Fffff

(Oh never mind, WP will just remove it anyway)


Posted by: helloisanyoneoutthere | December 18, 2009 6:58 PM | Report abuse

I'm a liberal Democrat, so the Democrats in the Senate did the good thing in getting a cloture to block the obstruction the Republican party in the Senate is doing; they're doing it because they're playing politics. Good thing the defense bill is advancing and that the important health care is also advancing. Health care is a right, no exception.

Posted by: LibertyForAll | December 18, 2009 6:33 PM | Report abuse

I sick and tired of the constant whining, crying, pouting, and stalling by the Republicans.

IF THEY DON'T CLEAN UP THEIR AND START TO COOPERATE ... THEY'LL HAVE ONE LESS VOTE COMES NOVEMBER!!!

Posted by: unseenmirage | December 18, 2009 6:25 PM | Report abuse

Now I am on the side of the Repubtards for doing the right thing. We do need to reduce defense spending.

The military is a socialist structure. A team, working in concert for the good of one another. While that is fine, but we need additional funds to help people from dying becuase they lack health care. Why say you feel bad about 3,000 deaths on 9-11, when you actually promote 45,000 detahs annually from not having health incsurance?

The socialism in the military should lead the way to better health care for all.

Posted by: Maddogg | December 18, 2009 5:58 PM | Report abuse

So the GOP was against the bill before they were for the bill?

And the Appropriations Bill hasn't even changed in between!

Where is Palin now on taxing the oil companies? She taxed the oil companies in Alaska is she against it now or still for it?

Posted by: James10 | December 18, 2009 5:40 PM | Report abuse

"The Majority Leader has signaled that he will finally unveil the most significant piece of domestic legislation in modern history some time on Saturday -- and force a vote in the middle of the night about 36 hours later," said Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.)

"This is outrageous."

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Easy enough to handle ... don't show up to vote. That will teach Harry a lesson.

Posted by: James10 | December 18, 2009 5:33 PM | Report abuse

Got Failure?

You do if you're an America-hating Republic Party of No comrade.

Kick em to the curb with the rest of their tin-hat wearing birther crew that hate our President, our Government, and our Troops.

Posted by: WillSeattle | December 18, 2009 5:29 PM | Report abuse

AugustWest1 wrote:
"The Party of NO has no problems playing politics with our brave troops. Some would even call their actions traitorous. They can't help themselves as they believe in the GOP first, the US second, if that."

That order would be:
1. GOP
2. Insurance companies
3. All other companies
4. Doctors (must protect against malpractice lawsuits).
5. The rest don't matter.

Posted by: JimZ1 | December 18, 2009 5:18 PM | Report abuse

For 8 years the US Congress gave Bush/Cheney a blank check on spending while lying and saying it was for our troops. The money went to the Taliban, kick backs, contractors, bribes and pay offs. Nothing went to the troops as they died because of lack of equipment. I had to buy my son his bullet proof vest because our Govenment didn't pay for them. My son got the cost of his cleaning and meals taken out of his salary while fighting in Iraq. No raises were given but our Law Makers made sure they got theirs. Many of our troops died from poor/no equipment and bad contractors work. But pushed out in the Headlines is We Support Our Troops. Now the GOP is blocking equipment so the current soldiers and the 30,000 we're sending are going to die. What a country as we don't need the terrorist to kill our brave soldiers we will do it ourselves and still use the lip service remarks WE SUPPORT OUR TROOPS. No wonder Americans wont serve in the Military nor will Law Makers let their kids join in the service to our Country.

Posted by: qqbDEyZW | December 18, 2009 5:18 PM | Report abuse

For all you weak minds who slurp up the democrat B.S. you might want to take some time to learn just what the corrupt democrats in the White House and Congress are up to.
They are trying to rush through the most gigantic power grab in the history of this country.
If you're too stupid or lazy to understand that, too bad. You probably deserve what happens if they succeed.
The Republicans aren't against the defense bill. They're aginst the shenanigans the democrat slugs are trying to pull, and they're doing everythig they can to delay it. The defense bill will get pased eventually.
The more Americans learn about these leftist slugs, and their disingenuous legislation, the more they're against the legislation too.
Wake up!

Posted by: LarryG62 | December 18, 2009 5:14 PM | Report abuse

I don't trust Vitter. Vitter's wife can't trust Vitter. Now our troops can't trust Vitter. I guess Vitter is just another one of those little boys who can't stop playing with himself ?

Remember McCain also voted against the last G.I. Bill. Some war hero he is, huh ?
More is to be revealed about phony McCain too which will blossom in the next election no doubt and so help me God.

But in the meanwhile, you all pretend you are outstanding citizens and public servants while ignoring most of the Public and watching yourselves on Fox News. And hey, Rubert don't care about Conservative ideals, more controversy more revenue, simple.

Just tools and toys for the Gawds. I do believe your own personal Apocalypse has started, "Give them according to their deeds", hahahahaha, CYA !!!

Posted by: truthhurts | December 18, 2009 4:51 PM | Report abuse

'tis Friday afternoon -- late. What crazy knee-jerk policy announcement, sure to frustrate and further polarize America, will be released this week by Pelosi, Reid, Obama, et al? And to think...

Posted by: JAH3 | December 18, 2009 4:19 PM | Report abuse

this is going over very well at the local vfw and american legion. they are trying to get in on the frontpage of our local paper, should be frontpage of every paper in the country.dont come hear loking for a republican vote anytime soon.

Posted by: donaldtucker | December 18, 2009 4:03 PM | Report abuse

I am appalled that the GOP would deny our troops the vital support they need during a war. This is tantamount to treason! They can try to paint this vote some other way but it is clearly a lack of support for our military. They put partisan politics ahead of our brave men and women who put their lives on the line in defense of our very liberty. This is the same party that would not provide body armor and vehicles armored to protect agains IEDs. As a veteran I find the GOP's vote disgusting!

Posted by: cdierd1944 | December 18, 2009 4:02 PM | Report abuse

This affair of attempting to block funds for our troops deployed in Harm's Way ought to be an eye opener as to the ZEAOLTRY displayed by the dysfunctional and immature Republican herd of the Senate. With zealots likes these, who needs enemies. These people are completely insane, out of check-n-balance and classically disturbed. I told you they are ZEALOTS, do you believe me now ?

Posted by: truthhurts | December 18, 2009 3:56 PM | Report abuse


The Party of NO has no problems playing politics with our brave troops. Some would even call their actions traitorous. They can't help themselves as they believe in the GOP first, the US second, if that.


Posted by: AugustWest1 | December 18, 2009 3:56 PM | Report abuse

Further proof, that the jingoistic, uber-patriotic rhetoric by the republicans is just that, empty rhetoric. The republicans/conservatives don't care about human lives, concerning military operations nor domestic welfare. How can anyone support a party whose ultimate goal is political gamesmanship to keep the status quo? Democrats are not much better, being to spineless to hold up to their ideals. Negotiating like a bunch of dithering do-nothings.
People who support this type of buffoonery need to really look at what they are contributing too. This is the type of crap that makes government so inefficient, in particular the Senate. At least this debate on health care will hopefully open the eyes of the aveage lay person to realize how Senators have become the House of Lords and that this so-called aristocratic bunch believe they can play games while people are dying here and abroad. They have totally forgotten that they are supposed to be representatives of the people.
I suggest starting a movement for a total recall of the Senate of Both Republicans and Democrats.

Posted by: FeComments | December 18, 2009 3:54 PM | Report abuse

Isn't the Democratic outrage being expressed over this political maneuver exactly the same as what the Republicans would do?

The parties look alike to me these days.

Posted by: postfan1 | December 18, 2009 3:36 PM | Report abuse

@wildthing1: Fundamentally I agree with you but the stark reality is that there really is a threat to America coming from that region.

Also, to abandon the Afghans who have joined with America to eradicate the Taliban would mean bloodshed on a gargantuan scale.

There are no good choices in Afghanistan now.

Posted by: JRM2 | December 18, 2009 3:32 PM | Report abuse

"...complain about Al Franken shutting down leiberjew's attempt to continue obstructing the healthcare "
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Not to mention that McCain did the EXACT SAME THING to a Senator in 2002 during the iraq war debate in congress. The guy spoke for one minute and thirty seconds and asked for thirty seconds more, McCain: "I object"

But McCain claims he's "Never seen ANYTHING like this before"

God I am so glad he is not our President.

Posted by: JRM2 | December 18, 2009 3:28 PM | Report abuse

I guess they believe that the real way to support the troops is to:
1. Stop makin' things up about a quitter
2. Send their declarations from behind the nanny's skirt of a twitter feed.

Posted by: JRM2 | December 18, 2009 3:25 PM | Report abuse

Wow, for a group of obstructionists who repeatedly screeched to support the troops while undercutting their medical benefits and equipment on the battlefield they sure have a lot of nerve.

So why DO they hate our troops?

Posted by: JRM2 | December 18, 2009 3:22 PM | Report abuse

And it was the funding for more human sacrifice in Afghanistan in search of nothing at all but the source of our own fear! It isn't there it is here.

Posted by: Wildthing1 | December 18, 2009 3:15 PM | Report abuse

"Republicans believe the obstructionist charge will be more than outweighed by their argument that Democrats are rushing a vital bill through the Senate with little scrutiny."

Republicans have proven themselves incompetent and grossly irresponsible when handed the reigns of power. This bill has been getting diluted week after week trying to get some sort of bi-partisan agreement and it's going nowhere because they refuse to assist in actually governing for what the people want.

After it gets through the filibuster hurdle it will get reconciled and reform will likely be put back in where these traitors will be forced to vote "for" or "against" reform. Voters will destroy those who oppose progress if the final version available for an up/down vote is strong.

Posted by: theobserver4 | December 18, 2009 3:15 PM | Report abuse

AND THE PATRIOT ACT IS RENEWED WITHOUT A WORD OF DISSENT

Not even a mention here of the quiet extension of the USA Patriot Act, a draconian measure that has been and continues to be misused in an ideologically-driven witch hunt and social genocide of American society -- directed against good citizens smeared as "dissidents," or slandered as undesirables or "enemies of the state."

This most recent appeasement by the Democrats to the "dark side" represents another broken promise of candidate Obama to restore civil and human rights after an eight year Reign of Terror that eviscerated the U.S. Constitution.

Where are the defenders of civil liberties in America? How come the groups like the American Civil Liberties are so silent in the Patriot Act's renewal? Where is the outrage? Has the high-tech psychological "entrainment" of our nation's leaders succeeded?

To find out what I'm driving at, read these articles:

http://nowpublic.com/world/obama-wrong-unaware-u-s-does-torture-its-own-citizens
http://nowpublic.com/world/gestapo-usa-govt-funded-vigilante-network-terrorizes-america OR NowPublic.com/scrivener RE: "GESTAPO USA"

Posted by: scrivener50 | December 18, 2009 3:04 PM | Report abuse

Further proof, that the jingoistic, uber-patriotic rhetoric by the republicans is just that, empty rhetoric. The republicans/conservatives don't care about human lives, concerning military operations nor domestic welfare. How can anyone support a party whose ultimate goal is political gamesmanship to keep the status quo?
People who support this type of buffoonary need to really look at what they are contributing too. This is the type of things that makes government so inefficient, in particular the Senate. At least this debate on health care opens the eyes of the aveage lay person to realize how Senators have become the House of Lords and that this so-called aristocratic bunch believe they can play games while people are dying here and abroad. They have totally forgotten that they are supposed to be representatives of the people.
I suggest starting a movement for a total recall of the Senate. Both Republicans and Democrats.

Posted by: FeComments | December 18, 2009 2:49 PM | Report abuse

Twas the night before Christmas and all through the Senate,
Not a Democrat Senator was thinking not even a minute,

The people's voice was hung without any care,
Because the Democrats didn't want to share.

The insurance companies were nestled all snug in their beds,
With hopes of Obama-care soon to be fed.

With Reid in his steamroller, and the insurance companies coddled on his lap,
They all were determined to pass through this crap.

When out on the lawn there arose such a clatter,
It was Bachmann trying to awaken the people from the Democrat flatter.

Away to the White House, Reid flew like a flash,
To promise insurance companies all the poor's cash.

Bachmann and the rest from the Republican show,
Shone light on the Obama-care corruption below.

When what to a thinker's wondering mind should appear,
How the bankrupting of America will soon be here.

With rotten old Reid so nasty and sick,
we knew in a moment we must stop this quick!

More rapid than buzzards, Reid circled as he came,
To pick flesh from the elderly, the sick, the crippled and the maimed.

Reid said, "Now Leahy, Now Boxer, Dodd and Durbin,
Come Feinstein, Come Harkin, Klobuchar and Franken.

To the top of the Capitol with your booty in hall,
Now steamroll, now steamroll, the people one and all.

Posted by: kwoods2 | December 18, 2009 2:46 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: summicron1 | December 18, 2009 2:23 PM | Report abuse

I'm trying to imagine the hyperbole with which the Republicans like Palin would have lambasted the "Anti-Americanism" of the Democrats if the shoe had been on the other foot...

Posted by: archaeoman | December 18, 2009 2:22 PM | Report abuse

Why does the GOP want to prevent US troops getting the equipment they need?

After Dumsfeld and Bush set US troops to Iraq without any body armor and in unarmored vehicles, why has the GOP not learned that this angers conservative voters?

Why does the GOP Hate US troops?

Is it because the najority of front line US troops supoort the Democratic Party that the GOP is trying to throtle US supplies and ammunition?

Is the GOP trying to kill US soldiers?

Posted by: walker1 | December 18, 2009 2:20 PM | Report abuse

Watching the obstructionist ole' magoo, aka five plane mccain, complain about Al Franken shutting down leiberjew's attempt to continue obstructing the healthcare legislation will serve as MY Christmas present.

It really was priceless. You can see it on YouTube. Al Franken shut down ole' droopy dawg, then ole' fivePlane comes to droopy dawgs rescue!

Posted by: Heerman532 | December 18, 2009 2:16 PM | Report abuse

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