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Obama will ask in State of Union for end to 'Don't Ask, Don't Tell'

Updated 9:00 p.m.
By Ed O'Keefe
President Obama will call for a repeal of the law that forbids openly gay and lesbian people from serving in the military during Wednesday night's State of the Union address, according to a prepared text of the speech released by the White House.

"This year, I will work with Congress and our military to finally repeal the law that denies gay Americans the right to serve the country they love because of who they are," Obama will say.

The military's "don't ask, don't tell" policy requires the military discharge of openly gay and lesbian people who tell fellow servicemembers about their sexuality. It also blocks military commanders from asking about a subordinate's sexuality.

"Don't ask, don't tell" was signed into law by President Bill Clinton in 1993, as part of the National Defense Authorization Act. It was intended as a compromise between the military's desire to continue banning gays from its ranks and Clinton's campaign promise to allow gays serving in the military to be open about their sexual orientation.

Gay rights groups have fought ever since to repeal the policy, and Clinton has since said that he now supports lifting the restrictions. Obama vowed during his own campaign to end "don't ask, don't tell," a position he reiterated last October in a speech to the Human Rights campaign, a prominent gay rights group.

The White House has faced pressure since early last year from liberal and gay rights groups over the policy. A growing chorus of people across the political spectrum and several retired military leaders have also called for a repeal.

Sen. Carl Levin (D-Mich.) hinted to reporters earlier this week that Obama might mention a repeal. He said the White House had asked him to delay hearings scheduled for February on the matter. CNN first reported Wednesday afternoon on the president's intention.

Earlier in the day, retired Gen. John Shalikashvili, a former chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, urged the president to repeal the policy. "As a nation built on the principal of equality, we should recognize and welcome change that will build a stronger more cohesive military," Shalikashvili said. "It is time to repeal 'don't ask, don't tell' and allow our military leaders to create policy that holds our service members to a single standard of conduct and discipline."

Shalikashvili was chairman of the Joint Chiefs when the policy was enacted under Clinton.

A report released Tuesday estimated that 66,000 gay, lesbian and bisexual people are serving in the U.S. military, roughly 2 percent of all military personnel.

Gays, lesbians and bisexuals account for about 13,000 active-duty servicemembers, equal to less than 1 percent currently deployed, the report estimated. About 53,000 others serve in the National Guard and reserves, equaling about 3.4 percent, the report stated.

Research editor Alice Crites contributed to this report.

Voice your opinion on "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" -- vote in our user poll, and leave a comment below.

By Ed O'Keefe  |  January 27, 2010; 6:41 PM ET
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Homosexuality is always going to be controversial for what it truly is: a distortion of sexuality. But to hoist that into the State of the Union Address is, for people in subsaharan Africa and the rest of the Third World, an abnormality. Is homosexual freedom that much a priority when Americans badly need jobs, and when the US for the first time in history faces demotion to secondary financial power status in the face of the rise of China and India? In any case those two nations are showing more moral discipline than to glorify froward passions like that - instead of leaving personal defects to individuals! No wonder the US is on the losing side on the global finance-economic balance!! Obama should have done whatever the Democrats are wont to do without over-blowing this matter as though the fate of the US economy hangs on it.

Posted by: editor-in-chief | February 2, 2010 5:11 AM | Report abuse

Know matter how important some feel the "Don't ask don't tell" Policy is, the State of the union speech is NO PLACE to even bring it up!!! First being gay or hetero is a personal decision and government should stay out of personal business PERIOD! The only reason Obama had to bring this up was to try and boost his popularity amongst the Liberals. What he ended up doing is making himself once again appear to grandstand for personal pat on the back attention..towards HIS agenda! Don't think that was quite what he wanted to accomplish...but that is what he did. Our country has become a laughing joke to other countries in the world. Every time he opens his mouth....He embarrasses the USA once again.

It is really not that difficult Mr. Obama.........
JOBS, JOBS, JOBS, JOBS, JOBS, JOBS, JOBS, JOBS!!
Do you get it now?????????????????????????

Posted by: Intuition1010 | January 30, 2010 8:06 AM | Report abuse

Know matter how important some feel the "Don't ask don't tell" Policy is, the State of the union speech is NO PLACE to even bring it up!!! First being gay or hetero is a personal decision and government should stay out of personal business PERIOD! The only reason Obama had to bring this up was to try and boost his popularity amongst the Liberals. What he ended up doing is making himself once again appear to grandstand for personal pat on the back attention..towards HIS agenda! Don't think that was quite what he wanted to accomplish...bit that is what he did. Our country has become a laughing joke to other countries in the world. Every time he opens his mouth....He embarrasses the USA once again.

It is really not that difficult Mr. Obama.........
JOBS, JOBS, JOBS, JOBS, JOBS, JOBS, JOBS, JOBS!!
Do you get it now?????????????????????????

Posted by: Intuition1010 | January 30, 2010 8:04 AM | Report abuse

No one has the "right" to join the US military. The military can and should be selective in their recruiting. The end goal should be to have the strongest military force possible. That is the only goal. There is no need at all to have homosexuals in the service: all the services are meeting their recruiting goals already.

Posted by: screwjob11 | January 28, 2010 5:16 PM | Report abuse

This speaks to the person that Obama is
Chicago Politics Alive and Thriving!
One's Life experience leads them to their
agenda's!

Posted by: boski66 | January 28, 2010 11:37 AM | Report abuse

Prior to don't ask, don't tell they could ask you if you were gay. Then you could either lie or not be allowed to join. So the current policy was an improvement over the old one. If we simply repeal don't ask, don't tell, then theoretically the military could go back to asking since their is no law or policy that prevents them from doing so. Rather than simply repealing the current policy, they need to approve a new policy that the military cannot discriminate based on sexual preference. Otherwise, there is no protection.

Posted by: bigtom6156 | January 28, 2010 11:35 AM | Report abuse

Apparently we've all forgot what Clinton did in '93. "Don't Ask, Don't Tell, Don't Pursue." Under its terms, military personnel would not be asked about their sexual orientation and would not be discharged simply for being gay. Engaging in sexual conduct with a member of the same sex however, still constitutes grounds for discharge. Congress voted to codify most aspects. High courts have consistently upheld the policy, making review of the policy by the U.S. Supreme Court unlikely. The policy has remained in effect since 1993. Can we shut up about this now and get on with actually fixing the country?

Posted by: LieToMe | January 28, 2010 9:57 AM | Report abuse

Many gay and lesbian people are highly trained and have needed skills in the military. Their service has harmed no one and they deserve to stay in the forces.

It has been reported that John McCain issued an immediate response against the suggestion of repeal of this policy. Just one more in the long line of decisions by him that shows his discriminatory behavior. And this guy wanted to be our leader. Perish the thought.

President Obama said he would take this up when he was elected. If the military leadership and the Congress don't act within 90 days, he should use an executive order to rescind the policy.

Posted by: ronjeske | January 28, 2010 9:36 AM | Report abuse

"Telling a military man to 'get out' of the military if he doesn't like having sex shoved on him now is the most inconsiderate, stupid, ignorant thing I've read so far. These men have given 20-years, 30-years of their lives to the military and to serve this country. So you would say to these people, 'So what, get out if you don't like it'?"

Doesn't like having sex "shoved" on him? What in the frack makes you think sex is going to be "shoved" on him? The only difference between the current situation and post-repeal is the gay people ALREADY working beside "him" won't have to worry about getting kicked out of the military because they're gay. What, do you think repealing DADT is going to result in hordes of gay men standing guard at the entrance to the showers, leering at every man who tries to go in? Or do you think gay men will be prowling the showers, ready to offer "massages" to one and all? Perhaps they'll start holding orgies in the barracks? Why is it people scared of homosexuals always seem to assume homosexuals lack any ability to keep their hands to themselves?

So what if they've given 10, 20, or 30 years to the military? I respect their service, but that doesn't mean we should refrain from doing what's right because it might hurt their feelings. Would you be making the same argument if we were discussing integrating blacks into white units? There were white officers and enlisted who said they wouldn't serve alongside blacks. Should we have refrained from integration out of respect for their feelings towards blacks? What about when women were allowed to be join operational units?

When a military serviceman/woman is given a legal order - such as the repeal of DADT - they have two choices: obey the order or resign. That's it. There's no third option.

No, the military should not be a social experiment. But in this case, they would hardly be such. Gays have integrated quite well across society. I haven't exactly heard about businesses going bankrupt because managers were so busy making sure their a@@es were covered against the gay menace that they didn't have time to do their jobs. Chances are quite good you've worked besides gays and didn't even know it (although some have no problem being 'openly' gay, most - in my experience and from what I've read and heard - don't exactly walk around with a sign on them saying "I'm gay!").

So, once again, if DADT is repealed the people currently serving have two options: obey the order or ask for their walking tickets. For those who leave, thanks for your services and don't let the door knob hit you on the a@@ on your way out - lest you jump 3 feet in the air and scream "gay rape!"

Posted by: SeaTigr | January 28, 2010 9:22 AM | Report abuse

It is way past time for this irrational policy to be repealed. It undermines the effectiveness and cohesion of our troops and leaves our military as a vestige of prejudice and discrimination. Unfortunately, the party of NO, will probably one again use the filibuster to block this initiative as they have blocked all initiatives.

Posted by: es628 | January 28, 2010 8:56 AM | Report abuse

With all the problems we are facing now... this should not even be in the mix now. Jeez folks, is this one of our "priorities" now? I'm not saying what is right or wrong... just this may not be the right time to do this... lets focus on more important things.

Posted by: Jerome3 | January 28, 2010 7:37 AM | Report abuse

Homosexuals are not equal to heterosexuals, because a man and a woman are the only two that can come together as one, to produce children the family.
Marriage
One man, One woman
bride and groom
husband and wife
Mr. and Mrs.
Father and Mother
Producing children the family from generation
to generation
Parents don't let anyone confuse or lie to
your offspring about the facts of life
Don't let anyone indoctrinate your children
into playing donkey dong
It's not child's play, and it is not equal to normal sexuality, it is a deviance to normal human sexuality
It is corrupt, quite frankley barney

Posted by: boski66 | January 28, 2010 2:57 AM | Report abuse

Most homophobes have an irrational fear of being sexually violated by a gay person. Some have homosexual thoughts they fight their own minds about due to religious views or what Sir Francis Bacon described as idols. For those that don't know a million American children are being raised by a gay parent and are no more homosexual than children of heterosexual parents. Almost 20% of women serving have been raped or sexually assaulted by male members of the service, a far greater problem than serving with a homosexual will drive people out.

Posted by: jameschirico | January 27, 2010 11:44 PM | Report abuse

Don't Ask, Don't Tell has been a failed discriminatory policy that was wrong on its face from day one. The president should not ask the military to do the right thing, he should order them to do so. Gay and lesbian service members have served with distinction and don't deserve actions that discriminate against them for being themselves.

Posted by: ronjeske | January 27, 2010 11:43 PM | Report abuse

Here’s a tag cloud of Obama’s 2010 State of the Union Address:
http://robvstate.com/2010/01/27/tag-cloud-of-obamas-2010-state-of-the-union-address/

Posted by: robparisblog | January 27, 2010 11:40 PM | Report abuse

To allow openly gay and lesbian citizens into the military without first implementing guidelines is a recipe for disaster. The rules for so much have to be defined. To allow a flamboyant gay citizen to “strut” their stuff and show their pride amongst an impressionable young man or woman may cause confusion and lead to leadership issues not to mention anger and resentment. Define the “what is acceptable” and what is not before we jump in this pool of uncertainty. Are separate bathrooms and showers needed? Is gay pride month on the calender now? What is an EO issue for a gay member of the military? Viewed?

Posted by: gilbertacevedo | January 27, 2010 11:35 PM | Report abuse

Amazing quoting Deuteronomy. One of the vilest chapters in the Bible. Slaughter everyone in a city including children, only leaving young women alive for sex slaves and tithing spoils to religious leaders. Even Judaic scholars have gone against the massacre.

Posted by: jameschirico | January 27, 2010 11:22 PM | Report abuse

My viewpoint is as a nation of laws, the equal protection clause of the 14th amendment should allow openly gay people to serve. That said you must face the reality that combat ground units in the Afghan theater have many homophobic warriors coming mainly from rural areas and the south. Ground units in the Afghan theater with CIBs should be under don't ask, don't tell, while all other units under the new directive. Looking at Mullen and others wearing much fruit salad frown at the statement shows their non-support, while Gates and Sashkavilli clapped.

Posted by: jameschirico | January 27, 2010 11:11 PM | Report abuse

prossers7 wrote: "...if he doesn't like having sex shoved on him..."
==========================================
Oh, brother.

Where is this alleged sex-crazed raging gay menace of which you speak?

The people who would be covered by the repeal are ALREADY in the military! People are ALREADY sharing barracks with them; ALREADY in combat situations with them! Without incident! Allowing them to serve openly (i.e. not have to tell lies all the time) will suddenly make them all rapists?

Frankly, I'm more worried about people who think like you being in command!

Posted by: carlaclaws | January 27, 2010 11:10 PM | Report abuse

churchlionjuday wrote: "Doing away with the present "don't ask/don't tell" will lead to many bad incidents with intolerant people no matter which side of the question they are on."
=====================================
Yeah, that's what they said about integration. It's right up there with "lock up your wives and daughters because men can't be trusted."

Posted by: carlaclaws | January 27, 2010 11:04 PM | Report abuse

This story really elicited a lot of comments. It doesn't really matter. When Truman integrated the Armed Forces, it wasn't popular. It took decades to get to the point where it wasn't that big an issue. I assume the service members are more tolerant now than during the Vietnam war (several decades after Truman's order), but at that time race was still an open sore. I saw it all around me. It was the right thing to do on any grounds one wants to use. From the reports I have read Gays are just as good as hetero-sexuals in the military. They have no reason to hit on anyone who would reject them. Open sex or inappropriate sex (hetero or gay) is forbidden anyway. Aside from irrational fear there is no good reason to keep gays under wraps. We need all the able-bodied personnel we can get to keep the numbers up. Our Armed Forces are stretched terribly thin. We should be ready for many years of adjustment. It can and should be done. Public polls are irrelevant. Soldiers who served with gays have reported that they are just as good.

Posted by: michbar2468 | January 27, 2010 10:59 PM | Report abuse

Telling a military man to 'get out' of the military if he doesn't like having sex shoved on him now is the most inconsiderate, stupid, ignorant thing I've read so far. These men have given 20-years, 30-years of their lives to the military and to serve this country. So you would say to these people, 'So what, get out if you don't like it'? Words escape me at that mental attitude. Has this world become so myopic that we can't see the problem we might be causing another person by our own ideals? If we are that brain dead than there is no future as a people.

Posted by: prossers7 | January 27, 2010 10:53 PM | Report abuse

The troops always need someone to bring up the rear.

Posted by: joewisc | January 27, 2010 10:50 PM | Report abuse

Reading these comments makes my heart heavy. This is more than an ideology, people, this is our military. These are the people we depend on as a nation for protection. These individuals are disciplined and groomed to their jobs. Sex and sexual preferences do not belong in this arena, it's like letting loose a stink bomb, it will distract, anger and drive our best people out of the military. Maybe that doesn't mean much to you, but knowing a little about the Navy, myself, I know the mindset of these people and it is not accepting of interference in their ranks. Taking the controls off don't ask don't tell will be a moral problem and it will clean out our best people from the military.

Posted by: prossers7 | January 27, 2010 10:42 PM | Report abuse

Obama will reap the same ill-will and injuries to his leadership as the Clinton administration did when he too attempted to force a 'sexual preference' on a majority of people. Perhaps Obama won't be in the shower getting goosed by an admirer, but he will hear about the disruption and anger it will reap. How can you trust the guy behind you when he's eyeing your behind, huh? These men are in close quarters and need to trust each other, not be looking over their shoulders with nervousness and unease. Don't ask, don't tell means little to people not in a military environment. You visit a military facility and take a good look, you will change your mind about this subject matter if you are fair and care about more than your ideology.

Posted by: prossers7 | January 27, 2010 10:33 PM | Report abuse

Soldiers have liberty to choose whom they associate with - they can choose not to reenlist after their 4 year commitment is up. Officers who have met their obligation can resign.

I would say to such folks, "thank you for your services, and don't let the door knob hit you on the a@@ on your way out."

Posted by: SeaTigr | January 27, 2010 10:28 PM | Report abuse

Massive kool aid ingestion in Congress tonight!
Posted by: tacheronb

ROFL!

Posted by: houston123 | January 27, 2010 10:21 PM | Report abuse

"If one wants to win the nation's battles and wars, keeping gays under wraps is critical."

Really? How so? Are gay people not going to be able to discharge their duties if they're no longer required to live in fear they'll be forced out if discovered? Will the fighting spirit of all those straight people be crushed because they know the guy next to them is gay?

"However, when eros enters the picture whether hetero- or homo-, it all falls apart."

What makes you think gays won't be able to keep their hands to themselves at the same rate as heteros?

"But Comrade Obama and his ilk -- few of whom have served in any military service -- have no clue."

Unlike George "can't find my records" Bush, Jr. and Dick "5-deferments" Cheney? How about John "7-deferments" Ashcroft? Jeb Bush? Karl Rove? Rudy Giuliani? Trent Lott? Mitt Romney? Dennis Hastert? Dick Armey? Tom Delay?

How about Rush Limbaugh? Bill O'Reilly? Michael Savage? Ann Coulter? Alan Keyes? Sean Hannity?

NONE of those prominent conservatives/Republicans, as far as I can find, served ONE DAY in uniform. Yet they seem to feel they are qualified to voice an opinion on how repealing DADT will affect the military. AND they still like to make claims about liberals being soft on national defense. I'm sorry, but if you've never served in uniform, you have no credibility to call out somebody for being soft on national defense. If you're so 'hard' or 'tough' about national defense - go sign on the dotted line.

Posted by: SeaTigr | January 27, 2010 10:20 PM | Report abuse

Massive kool aid ingestion in Congress tonight!

Posted by: tacheronb | January 27, 2010 10:15 PM | Report abuse

"LibertyForAll" is all for liberty - even if it has to be crammed down the throat of every soldier by law - who won't have a choice any longer with whom they choose to associate. Some 'liberty'

Posted by: dave19 | January 27, 2010 10:10 PM | Report abuse

Bring the draft back. Then everyone has an opportunity to face Obama military policies.

Posted by: 45upnorth | January 27, 2010 10:08 PM | Report abuse

>REPUTABLE therapists

To the poster who used this term, please note that in MY experience working in the medical field, psychiatrists or any other Drs...even all types of therapists... are trained to NOT really DISAGREE with a gay person or any other patient- They do NOT get paid to RUN PATIENTS AWAY, regardless of reason person is seeking help- PLEASE believe me when I say that QUITE OFTEN medical professionals look into the eyes of patients, nod with a positive gesture, smile, when in fact they TOTALLY disagree with the patient's own reasoning- Coworkers often overhear a medical professional mumbling about discontent with such a patient visit, happy the visit is over b/c the therapist HAD TO SIT THRU and TOLERATE a patient visit- Again I say...therapists do NOT get paid to run patients away...instead do all that can be done to get the patient to RETURN and feel comfortable there- Obviously this issue of living GAY, such a DISORDER (which begins often in childhood or teen years as GID...D standing for DISORDER), is just another area that some therapists must confront every day- OUR MILITARY does NOT need soldiers whose problems began with GID (D stands for DISORDER)-ALSO it's well known now that the field of COUNSELING has it's share of GAY therapists- People with disturbed kids are encouraged to do some checking into a counselor's background in order to avoid a therapist with questionable beliefs or lifestyle becoming a role model for a child with problems, including GID-

Posted by: AdhdMedsRAbuse | January 27, 2010 9:58 PM | Report abuse

Homophobia is intolerance which brings no benefit. The intolerant 'Don't Ask, Don't Tell' must be repealed this year and there must be a military policy which will prohibit discrimination on the basis of sexual orientation and gender identity. President Obama will do a good thing by calling for the necessary repeal of 'Don't Ask, Don't Tell' in his State of the Union. General John Shalikashvili supports that intolerant policy's repeal and his contribution will help Congress pass a bill which repeal 'Don't Ask, Don't Tell'.

Posted by: LibertyForAll | January 27, 2010 9:40 PM | Report abuse

If one wants to win the nation's battles and wars, keeping gays under wraps is critical. Comrades at arms is one of the most powerful linking forces among people, esp. young men. However, when eros enters the picture whether hetero- or homo-, it all falls apart. It's really as simple as that and spend a few weeks on a peace-time aircraft carrier to get a taste.
But Comrade Obama and his ilk -- few of whom have served in any military service -- have no clue. Instead they waste the lives of young American patriots and the wealth of the nation trying to counter basic biology.

Posted by: rethman | January 27, 2010 9:34 PM | Report abuse

"if you knew your buddy was gay and he was shot, would you splatter blood all over yourself not knowing if he had aids..."

Sure would, Dwight. Know why?
1) By sheer weight of numbers there are more heterosexuals with HIV/AIDS than gays.
2) Military personnel are "encouraged" to have a yearly physical, including blood work-up. I don't know if HIV/AIDS screening is done, but it would seem logical the military would check for STDs.
3) The HIV/AIDS virus can only survive for about 2-5 minutes in that blood exposed to the open air.
4) Unless I myself have an open wound on my body, my odds of getting HIV through the skin are quite small.


"what if some of the less tolerant element of our volunteer military decide it's fair game to beat up on (literally) other enlisted personnel just for being gay?"

Then, yesnomaybe, you prosecute those people for assault. Assault is still assault if the victim is gay.

As for your other questions, I refer you to the other armed forces of the world which allow openly gay members. None of them have had many problems beyond the first year or two past implementing their policy.

In the response to another poster's question on "what will be considered sexual harassment?" the answer is: the same actions that are now considered sexual harassment. Those actions are gender blind. How will the UCMJ be affected? I guess they'll have to amend Article 125, dealing with sodomy. In reality, practically ALL servicemen and women are guilty of sodomy as defined in Article 125. Under the article's definition, oral sex is considered sodomy - even consensual oral sex between husband and wife. The parts of Article 125 dealing with rape, sexual assault, and sexual misconduct have already been effectively shifted to Article 120. Article 125 is an anachronism and should be removed - as at recommended at least twice by the Commission on Military Justice. Furthermore, due to Lawrence v. Texas (2003), any conviction for consensual sodomy under Article 125 would be more than a little doubtful to survive appeal.

There is, of course, the question of how many service members will resign rather than serve alongside openly gay personnel (open in the sense of out of the closet). I would say to such people, "thanks for your service and don't let the door knob hit you on the a@@ on the way out."

Posted by: SeaTigr | January 27, 2010 9:22 PM | Report abuse

fr adhdmeds:

>...It's amazing to listen to people who "came out of the darkness" so to speak... abandoned gay lifestyle for the now straight lifestyle they chose- I found it very interesting to learn one of the FIRST things that support groups use to help encourage the switching to straight living- In the support, they are reminded that AS BABIES, we are taught to NOT FINGERPAINT ...

Your "ex-gay" groups are a sham, snake-oil salespeople. They are NOT ethical, and neither is reparative "therapy". REPUTABLE therapists will not use it, as they know it is extremely dangerous. Stop reading the garbage from "focus" or the "afa" or the laughable patty robber$on. Get the true FACTS about glbt's from reputable groups, such as www.pflag.org or glaad.

Posted by: Alex511 | January 27, 2010 9:20 PM | Report abuse

I wonder how high on the list of things America wants Obama to deal with this issue falls...

Posted by: websterr1 | January 27, 2010 9:12 PM | Report abuse

are we going to have GAY marine commercials on tv??????????

marines--have a gay time??

what has obama led us to??

Posted by: ProCounsel | January 27, 2010 9:08 PM | Report abuse

so now military recruiters

can tell 18 year old high school seniors

come join the gay military????

Posted by: ProCounsel | January 27, 2010 8:57 PM | Report abuse

'Don't Ask, Don't Tell' is OFFICIALLY OVER, REALLY?

Ok then I can officially say the Obma is an Empty Suit...

Posted by: sophic | January 27, 2010 8:49 PM | Report abuse

'Don't Ask, Don't Tell' is OFFICIALLY OVER, REALLY?

Ok then I can officially say the Obma is an Empty Suit...

Posted by: sophic | January 27, 2010 8:48 PM | Report abuse

'Don't Ask, Don't Tell' is OFFICIALLY OVER, REALLY?

Ok then I can officially say the Obma is an Empty Suit...

Posted by: sophic | January 27, 2010 8:48 PM | Report abuse

I assume that current members of the military that have serious reservations about homosexuality (and I'm not taking sdies), that believe they have or may have concerns in the close environment that the military requires, I assume that current members of the military will have the option to void their enlistment contracts with no loss of service credit or benefit? After all, they enlisted under one set of circumstances/values and a change of this nature may be in opposition to their personal beliefs/values.

As conscienscious objectors have the ability to void their enlistment, shouldn't others have the right if the military is significantly changing it's standards?

xminusone@gmail.com

Posted by: Dungarees | January 27, 2010 8:47 PM | Report abuse

Barry the incompetent boob Obama - Chickenhawk
Joe 'plugs' Biden - Chickenhawk
Harry the horse's asp Reid - Chickenhawk

Warmongering cowards all, who never spent a day in military uniform.

Nearly 500 U.S. soldiers kill Barry's first year in office.

Posted by: screwjob2 | January 27, 2010 8:45 PM | Report abuse

One reason Military personnel did NOT speak out against Gays in military is bc side by side they must treat each other like ADULTS-With that said, let any Military Daddy go HOME to HIS 18 yr old son or daughter who is AT WORK being pounced upon by a Homosexual BOSS as in 2 cases I know of 1st hand- Let that SAME father who did not speak out against gay enlistment in the military, handle the issue of HIS own son or daughter AT WORK being pressured into a "close homosexual relationship" in order to KEEP a job or have many hours of work- Then SEE the reaction of that father regarding the SAME AGE (18) yr old in his/her OWN family- Parents who have "kids" in the military worry over such sexual pressures regardless of WHERE they are serving, just AS parents worry about their teens in other places- AT WORK, schools, colleges, as well AS in the military- Our military AND OUR PRESIDENT should be looking to keep a military atmosphere as HEALTHY as possible & NOT encourage a military made up of a larger percentage of wannabe sign toters whose first hope of the day is (unnatural) SEXUAL CIVIL RIGHTS for THEMSELVES.

Posted by: AdhdMedsRAbuse | January 27, 2010 8:44 PM | Report abuse

Before I would have cared whether he was going to commit political suicide over this, but now... considering that he's out to get me with his insurance mandates, cap and trade (higher electricity bills), and legalization for immigrants-I really don't care anymore.

Go ahead Mr. President-fall on your sword. Politicians grow like weeds.

Posted by: moebius22 | January 27, 2010 8:42 PM | Report abuse

I'm sorry!!! This boob that we elected just doesn't get it. Is the don't ask don't tell issue the most pressing problem facing America today? I think the fact that our economy is in shambles, folks are having their homes foreclosed and millions are out of work trumps Gays in the Military. But our politicians have to pander rather then role up their sleeves and do the hard work we need to put American back to work.

Posted by: rethwysgt | January 27, 2010 8:42 PM | Report abuse

Equal rights? BS
Do straight men run around and tell everyone that they are straight? It's just confirming that homosexuality is a mental disorder or choice. The APA since their founding declared it a disorder until they succumbed to political correctness.

Posted by: genomega | January 27, 2010 8:41 PM | Report abuse

What makes the military different from civilian employment?

Posted by: OldCoot1


This has to be the dumbest question I've read in a long, long time!

Posted by: cschotta1 | January 27, 2010 8:41 PM | Report abuse

Hey Obama, if you dare try it, then you might as well be "asking" to be fired!!

Posted by: cschotta1 | January 27, 2010 8:40 PM | Report abuse

Everyone bleeds and dies the same way. What difference does it make on the battlefield? I think anyone that wants to fight for the US should be welcomed into the military. If the officers in the military cannot manage them we need different officers. What makes the military different from civilian employment?

Posted by: OldCoot1 | January 27, 2010 8:39 PM | Report abuse

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Posted by: Alex511 | January 27, 2010 8:39 PM | Report abuse

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Posted by: Alex511 | January 27, 2010 8:39 PM | Report abuse

None of this has ever been taken seriously by Obama and his silly administration, and what he proposes to do tonight will, unfortunately, be viewed as what it is: a peace offering with no meaning behind it, a bone with no meat on it, whatever. If Obama had really been serious about this, it would already be behind us. No one on either side of the political spectrum - center or extreme - believes this man anymore. He's a failure. He's a total failure. From now on, it's just posturing.

Posted by: georges2 | January 27, 2010 8:38 PM | Report abuse

The policy should never have been implemented in the first place. I will welcome it when it is gone. We need all the volunteers we can get so there doesn't have to be another draft.

A few extremists here and elsewhere are so fixated on whether they'll feel uncomfortable in a foxhole with someone who's gay and NOT hiding it that they are overlooking the fact that the military is constantly scrounging for people who are willing to serve and have been lowering their standards to fill in those slots. Allow gays in who don't have to hide and the military won't be so hard-up for recruits.

It *is* a civil rights issue. It *is* better for the country to have committed volunteers in the service who are able to focus 100% on the task at hand and not have to be looking over their shoulders constantly to see if anyone noticed who they're dating or living with. It *is* good for the country to welcome - for example - educated gay linguists to fill in the huge holes in intelligence-gathering and analysis as well as welcoming gay front-line soldiers.

Gays who are closeted but join the military - that's basically what DADT was hoping for. It did not work well.

Without DADT, gays not currently in the military will be able to join proudly, knowing their country isn't trying to force them to get (back) into a closet.

If anyone should be looking over their shoulders, it's the straight people in the military who are cheating on their spouses, cheating with someone else's spouse, beating up on or raping locals (or their spouses, or their kids), drinking on the job, deliberately mishandling or misappropriating equipment, making bigoted and/or racist comments about other service members, etc. That behavior should never be tolerated.

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Posted by: eyrtiuyoluerhyitertyutu | January 27, 2010 8:34 PM | Report abuse

>>>Only 44 Americans on our history have reached this level.

43. One guy got double credit. Might have been Grover Cleveland being #22 and #24 but I'm a bit rusty.

Posted by: Kurtiss | January 27, 2010 8:33 PM | Report abuse

Come on man!!! Find me a job. I'm not in the mood right now about concerning myself with Mr. Hershey Highway being able to come out in the military!

Posted by: jamespmarion | January 27, 2010 8:31 PM | Report abuse

What is the end of Don't Ask Don't Tell? Ask and Tell? Isn't that what we had before Clinton?

Posted by: Kurtiss | January 27, 2010 8:30 PM | Report abuse

You might as well tell NORMAL people that "The military has disbanded"!!! Good God people can't you see Ancient Rome in this!!!

Posted by: houston123 | January 27, 2010 8:28 PM | Report abuse

For all of the sexually insecure Neanderthals who have posted here, listen up. Last year when Stars and Stripes surveyed active military personnel (soldiers, not the brass)about the subject of gays serving openly in the military, the vast majority (over 75% by the way)said it was no big deal. The majority of the top military brass have also said repeal of the law would not affect military cohesiveness or readiness. Society has progressed and times have changed. Therefore, I am going to defer to the opinions of those most affected by Don't Ask Don't, the soldiers who are out there fighting wars every day; not the armchair bigoted idiots who have written some of the ignorant responses herein. Gays have been serving honorably in the military since America's first military engagements, it's past time to accept and honor their service, let them serve honorably, and move on to something else more important. Geez, get with it people and get a life. Come out of the darkness, it's not the Middle Ages anymore.

Posted by: stardog7 | January 27, 2010 8:27 PM | Report abuse

Oh, and repealing this policy is its own kind of jobs bill.

Almost thirteen thousand men and women have been kicked out of the military under this Clintonian policy. I'm sure a ton of them want back in. Add to that, a study conducted last year for the Servicemembers Legal Defense Network concluded that the U.S. military could attract as many as 41,000 new recruits, if gays and lesbians in the military were able to be open about their sexual orientation.

Posted by: Kentuckgator | January 27, 2010 8:26 PM | Report abuse

our people are suffering and dying in a useless WAR. and odumbo is making a case for whiners. who cares? military life is not about the indidual. if u do not like it dont join,if u are in get out. reinstate the draft,without deferments. everyone will be equal as long as there is an aclu unit on every post,base etc which commisar obozo and gang will fund

Posted by: pofinpa | January 27, 2010 8:26 PM | Report abuse

I thought Obama was supposed to be highly intelligent. Really??? He's been a moron from what I've seen. NOBODY CARES about this crap, Obama. There worried about the economy and jobs!!! Get it thru your thick skull.

Posted by: thetruthhurts | January 27, 2010 8:25 PM | Report abuse

How Could Obama POSSSIBLY Fail so Miserably his First Year??

Obama has passed the most stringent test in America–election to the Presidency. This alone is evidence of his competence and intellect. Only 44 Americans on our history have reached this level.

Obama had a super filibuster proof majority in the Senate and a comfortable majority in the house.

Yet Obama has consistently and repeatedly committed the most basic, obvious, elementally foolish mistakes.

Why has Obama been so helplessly confused?

Consider that Obama mocked the Bible books of Deuteronomy and Leviticus by name. Obama’s speech is still on You-Tube. These books are in the Jewish part of the Bible, the Old Testament , which is also part of the Christian Bible.

Note that Obama has never even CRITICIZED the Koran, much less MOCKED it.

Deuteronomy 28, in the very book Obama mocked by name, pronounces specific curses:

15 However, if you do not obey the LORD your God and do not carefully follow all his commands and decrees I am giving you today, all these curses will come upon you and overtake you

(Numerous detailed curses omitted)

20 The LORD will send on you curses, confusion and rebuke in everything you put your hand to, until you are destroyed and come to sudden ruin because of the evil you have done in forsaking him"

And the Bible book of Leviticus also speaks about homosexuality.

Posted by: ProCounsel | January 27, 2010 8:22 PM | Report abuse

Wow, the ignorance on here is amazing... you people read newspapers?

Being gay is not a disorder, and, to respond to another commenter, I would've gladly stayed quiet about being gay in the military if straight people could do the same. Like I want to hear about that babe you totally 'slammed' at a strip club...

Anyway - gays are not preying on little boys, Obama is not gay just because he supports this repeal, and it's always the right time to fight for civil rights.... this is more important than health care; more important than the economy. It is a civil right to be able to be who you are without persecution. I don't like crazy religious wingnuts spouting off doctrine, yet I would fight to the death to let you boys and girls scream your heads off at me for believing something different than you. Because this is America. We're supposed to be for equality under the law and justice for everyone.

Posted by: Kentuckgator | January 27, 2010 8:22 PM | Report abuse

It's amazing to listen to people who "came out of the darkness" so to speak... abandoned gay lifestyle for the now straight lifestyle they chose- I found it very interesting to learn one of the FIRST things that support groups use to help encourage the switching to straight living- In the support, they are reminded that AS BABIES, we are taught to NOT FINGERPAINT with BM's that fall out of diapers- later to be taught that it's b/c it's VERY UNCLEAN, that it comes from an UNCLEAN WASTE area of the body- SO...Even if NO focus is placed on gay lifestyle being AGAINST THE WILL OF GOD, THE thought alone of UNCLEAN behavior should make our MILITARY AND GOVERNMENT NOT ENCOURAGE BEHAVIOR which is UNSANITARY, BODY ABUSE, and AGAINST NATURE-

Posted by: AdhdMedsRAbuse | January 27, 2010 8:20 PM | Report abuse

As a BIG supporter of Obama I have to question the timing of this.

Posted by: angriestdogintheworld | January 27, 2010 8:07 PM | Report abuse


The millions who lost jobs in 2009 will be terrifically excited that the president is focusing on DADT.

Posted by: WylieD | January 27, 2010 8:06 PM | Report abuse

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Republican Response:

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NO!! is the most important word to teach a toddler

so they do not run into traffic or endanger themselves or others, through incompetence

and thats why Republicans are proudly the party of NO

to socialism obama

see?

Posted by: ProCounsel | January 27, 2010 8:03 PM | Report abuse

If as rumored he will allow gays openly in the military he will be impeached.

Posted by: KBlit | January 27, 2010 8:01 PM | Report abuse

A bad move on part of Obama- We know the military & Pentagon did knuckle under pressure with this but it didnt change beliefs of the majority, including many HIGHLY EDUCATED people- Officials as well AS the Pope know that Gay Lifestyle stems from a DISORDER- It could stem from abuse as a child, even too early exposure to sex... which leads to extreme pressure- OR any other factor that upsets Endocrine (hormonal) levels and/or Brain Function (including thinking & decision making)- WHEN both Endocrine & Mental/Emotional upsets (which includes brain fluid upsets & brain function) are BOTH present, cases of gay behavior are worse- Regarding young boys wanting entrance to seminaries...this has been addressed by The Pope, Cath Church etc so a stop could be put to young boys (with GID) wanting to use a seminary, then the priesthood as a HAVEN or way to function mostly away from expected STRAIGHT lifestyle. A top Catholic Psychiatrist was assigned (by the Pope) the task of explaining to US Bishops just HOW common GID is & how many DO overcome this while some do NOT if not properly handled by adults in the lives of the GID victims- GID spotted in males applying for the seminary, are to be quickly SCREENED OUT & not allowed to train for priesthood (since this was long overlooked & encouraged by SOME IN the priesthood training young boys (some priests in seminaries who KNOW THEY too faced GID which did NOT get addressed properly). The Pope insists on this screening now- Thru this education now, more focus is on ADMITTING that GID (the D stands for DISORDER) IS common in teens...but SHOULD BE ADDRESSED & handled in a way to help youngsters OVERCOME this DISORDER (regardless of where it started, even if it began with pressures of NO Healthy FATHER FIGURE in the life of a young boy...or NO Healthy Mother Figure in the life of a female with GID...OR if it began with Sexual Abuse OR other (health) reason that triggered UPSETS in body & mind functions so became a factor. At ANY rate, OUR MILITARY does NOT NEED to encourage entrance of people with a lifestyle that boldly expresses LIFESTYLE BASED ON a "SEXUAL" way of life- It IS a Disorder, regardless of how far a person climbs the ladder of success- This disorder WILL eventually pose a problem. This "disorder" undermines the respect of what we know as the FAMILY UNIT, the way of life which brought each of us into the world & which stands FOR the procreation & maintaining of a healthy NATION, Physically AND Mentally.

Posted by: AdhdMedsRAbuse | January 27, 2010 8:01 PM | Report abuse

If as rumored he allow's openly gays in the military he will be impeached.

No way this will happen no matter now many gays have lied to get in and work the system when it became a political deal.

Impeach now!~

Posted by: KBlit | January 27, 2010 8:00 PM | Report abuse

I bet 90% of the people on here saying that it's unworkable never have been in the military. I am currently serving. Most of the people who are gay don't hide it well. Yet no one really cares. It's only an issue to the idiots of the world. The solution in the military--it's called a direct order. It matters not one whit what someone's beliefs are in the military. If you're ordered to do something, you do it. Period. I'm not saying that there wouldn't be sporadic incidents, but those can be dealt with.

The same arguments were advanced about race integration 60 years ago, and the military got through that. That's the beauty of it.

It's too bad this can't operate in society. We could keep many of the a** clowns who post here from doing any real damage. Like voting and procreating.

Posted by: serranot | January 27, 2010 8:00 PM | Report abuse

When one is corrupted in the basic sexual normality of the reality of the facts of life, it follows that they are corrupted in all their dealings, Quite Frankley Barney!

Posted by: boski66 | January 27, 2010 7:58 PM | Report abuse

Obama has never once served in the military - he obviously loathes it. He is now running cultural experiments with the nation's most sacred and vital institution. This obscenity, done when the nation is at war (oh forgot - according to Obama we're not) - undercuts all those who serve. Obama!!!!!!!! To hell with you!

Posted by: egrib | January 27, 2010 7:57 PM | Report abuse

Amazing! So many posts with such ignorant attitudes. churchlionjudah – you seem way out in some alien field. You know nothing about how gays conduct themselves. Talk about narrow-thinking and unchristian behavior.

Why should any individual, or group of, that is/are American citizen have to wait for equal rights?! Personal religious beliefs do not belong in government concerns. You conduct yourself the way you please but stop trying to shove your rhetoric down everyone's throat.

The negative bloggers are just making up ridiculous scenarios when there is mention of how uncomfortable a gay person would feel being forced to be in a foxhole with someone you don't like. You have no idea! But this, my friends, is what growing up and being a good, brave American is all about.

A good citizen is suppose to fight for the rights of those who are trampled by injustice. They are suppose to help bring freedom to those oppressed by unequal treatment and those put-upon by larger groups, simply because they seem different. If you are not for freedom for ALL then you are not for democracy.

Posted by: jmichael1 | January 27, 2010 7:57 PM | Report abuse

This is a shame this all being brought up. When he was campaigning a person from his church claimed they were having an affair. Then shortly after the guy committed suicide. I would have concern for the gays in case a pervert decided to rape one of them as they do some women. I know what the Bible says but the Bible also says I can not judge. I just hope every thing works out for everyone. The sexuality should not determine how well they defend us. They are willing to defend all Americans without question.I have worked beside gays and I have never been treated any better. The lesbions were mean and stand offish. One of the gays was dischared from the air force with a number of years. He was a terrific guy. The only ones that I don't approve of are those that get married and the partner doesn't lnow it, just to cover it up.

Posted by: sbhappe34 | January 27, 2010 7:57 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: Kentuckgator

"I notice that the people that are against it tend to be heterosexual, and go on about how gays wouldn't serve anyway. As a gay man who proudly served his country in uniform, I'm itching to get back in. Oh, and look it up... there are over 65,000 gay men and women estimated to be serving right now"

Good, you're right and I suggest that you stay in the closet where you belong.

Posted by: mark0004
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Touche!

Posted by: houston123 | January 27, 2010 7:51 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: Kentuckgator

"I notice that the people that are against it tend to be heterosexual, and go on about how gays wouldn't serve anyway. As a gay man who proudly served his country in uniform, I'm itching to get back in. Oh, and look it up... there are over 65,000 gay men and women estimated to be serving right now"

Good, you're right and I suggest that you stay in the closet where you belong.

Posted by: mark0004 | January 27, 2010 7:49 PM | Report abuse

Wow, this is like watching Clinton implode all over again, only better because this idiot thinks he's smarter than all the rest of us put together. Without a Perot to triangulate with, Barry's hosed in 2012.

Posted by: ttttt1 | January 27, 2010 7:45 PM | Report abuse

Right, screwjob2, better off leaving military decisions to people like Dick "Five Deferments" Cheney.

You're a deep thinker, you are.

Posted by: baltova1 | January 27, 2010 7:44 PM | Report abuse

35 years ago, I worked in an industry that had many gay people working in it. Once they became the supervisors of that business they gave preference to their own kind. They allowed other gays to harrass the heterosexuals, who could do nothing about it. H/R was run by gays, my boss and his boss were gays, also. It made it a difficult place to work and created much anger toward them. Once they are allowed to be openly in the military, I believe there will be a like occurance, there.

Posted by: donchurch | January 27, 2010 7:44 PM | Report abuse

1.5% gays(4 million) of the population of 285 million. It doesn't deserve that much attention!

Posted by: tonyjm | January 27, 2010 7:43 PM | Report abuse

Of all things to bring up now, this takes the cake. It is the wrong issue at the wrong time. "Don't Ask, don't tell" is one of those legislative compromises nobody really likes but it was hammered out and it is where we have been for almost twenty years.

What does he propose to make it take place? How will he structure the change? Right now the military is having problems framing a practical and workable way for young men and women to serve together in a co-ed force. This adds a further very difficult layer of change.

To do away with "Don't Ask, Don't tell" there must be a well thought out and practical policy that is understandable and enforceable, that is easily understood and fair and workable. The details have not been worked out, and this is one problem that is very very complex.

While a goal to replace the current policy with a better one and one that is fair practical and understandable is good, acting like it is something easy or quickly done is crazy. As I said this preparation has not been done. What exactly is Congress supposed to do? Will sexual orientation be an open thing, a check off box item. This would mean that it would be common knowledge. Or will it be a personal and private matter? How will relationships be handled between civilians and service members, between service members of different ranks? When and what will be the guide lines for conduct? What will be considered sexual harassment and what not? What changes will be made in Uniform Code of Military Justice, specifically those articles dealing with sexual activity?

The President kicking this sleeping dog is a gratuitous of grandstanding and political irresponsibility. This is not the time for this brawl. It is as politically immature as his promise to close Gitmo in a year or allowing the FBI to Minandize the Christmas Day Detroit bomb suspect. It may get some cheers from his base who obviously have little concern or care about the opinions of those currently serving. Politically it puts many Congressmen and Senators in a trap because while many progressives will applaud it, it will send the social conservatives right up the wall. Plainly it will lead to a Congressional donnybrook that will suck the air out of the place when other more pressing issues need attention. The right and left will go after it hammer and tong.

This is the wrong fight at the wrong time. Before anything is done a serious and wide ranging study by current and former service leaders and rank and file is needed.

Posted by: SanchoK | January 27, 2010 7:43 PM | Report abuse

Why not and that way he guarantees to carry California and Washington D.C. next election.

Posted by: springco1 | January 27, 2010 7:43 PM | Report abuse

It is amazing - many of these comments clearly demonstrate why we need this policy to be ended. Hate, fear, and, yes, ignorance should not dictate our government's values, nor be allowed to undermine our national security and the personal security and rights of any of our citizens. As they believe in the Israeli Army, where I think we can mostly agree they have the National Security thing down - if they are willing to die for their country, they think that is enough. Gay people are protecting our country - and you - NOW. How many of you posting slurs and insults are serving our country? Show some respect.

Posted by: KKreutzer | January 27, 2010 7:41 PM | Report abuse

Guys, seriously, this is a CIVIL RIGHTS ISSUE.

Obama shouldn't wait - heck, he shouldn't have waited this long. Despite how a few ignorant commenters make it seem, most people support gays serving openly in the military, even former Chairmen of the Joint Chiefs. Go ahead, I dare you - criticize their decades of service.

Gay men and women should be allowed to be as open with their sexuality as their straight counterparts, and it shouldn't wait - not one more month, one more year, or one more term... it should happen now.

I notice that the people that are against it tend to be heterosexual, and go on about how gays wouldn't serve anyway. As a gay man who proudly served his country in uniform, I'm itching to get back in. Oh, and look it up... there are over 65,000 gay men and women estimated to be serving right now.

Posted by: Kentuckgator | January 27, 2010 7:38 PM | Report abuse

The truth has come out about Barry's REAL self!

Posted by: houston123 | January 27, 2010 7:37 PM | Report abuse

i know the intentions are only the best here, but i have concerns...

(1) what if some of the less tolerant element of our volunteer military decide it's fair game to beat up on (literally) other enlisted personnel just for being gay?

(2) or what if false charges of sexual assault are filed right and left against openly gay enlisted personnel?

(3) what if someone's desire to rise in the military ranks is thwarted by anti-gay bias, or

(4) what if someone who happens to be gay cries discrimination when their career doesn't advance as they desire, or if they object to being sent to a particular location?

the road to hell is paved with good intentions.

Posted by: yesnomaybe213 | January 27, 2010 7:34 PM | Report abuse

Most, nay the vast majority, of gays who support such legislation would never dream of actually serving themselves.

Obama, who himself never gave a conscience thought to serving in the military, like so many politicians, does not hesitate to interject himself into the traditions of military warriors.

I voted Democrat last election. Big Mistake! Nothing but pandering and cheap fixes. No jobs, No health care. No nothing.

We need a third political party !

Posted by: mosthind | January 27, 2010 7:27 PM | Report abuse

Will liberal democrats never get it?

This is one of the LEAST important decisions that confront us today as a nation. If someone doesn't want remarks to be made about their sexual orientation, then JUST DON"T TALK ABOUT IT.

This is just such a complete no brainer.

What I guess gays think is that getting rid of "don't ask, don't tell" will herald in some new age of gay soldiers being completely honest about their sexual orientation, and their heterosexual peers saying, "you go, guy."

The truth is, no matter what laws say, there will be a lot of behind the back teasing and gossip. Most people do not and never will be accepting of homosexual activity.

So why not be professional? Why not keep personal details personal?

Not everyone wants to hear all your dirty laundry.

More importantly, this country is going to hell in a handbasket. Most people are going to be focused on actual problems for the next few years.

Posted by: tacheronb | January 27, 2010 7:26 PM | Report abuse

So, with the economy in the toilet and no meaningful stimulus programs on the horizon, we get an end to "don't ask, don't tell?" Really, we have more important fish to fry at the moment. Yes, to gays it is important but even gays need jobs and that we have a dearth of these days.

Posted by: GuineverePen | January 27, 2010 7:26 PM | Report abuse

fr churchlionjudah:

>...If "gays" want equality, they must meet the same standards of conduct as all others, and anyone who thinks there is some other way is simply not coherent. Many service people would react viokolently to being forced to share a tent or foxhole with ANY other person in whom they were very much at dis-ease....

As a gay person, I take extreme offensive to your little rant. Were I in the military and in a foxhole, don't worry, I'd be very professional towards anyone else.

Just remember, Alexander the Great was a GAY MAN.

Posted by: Alex511 | January 27, 2010 7:26 PM | Report abuse

of COURSE

obama will drop don't ask don't tell in the military

after all obama has ALREADY destroyed the economy

now he has time to destroy the military

all while obama neglects national security

that obama can surely multitask, alright

Posted by: ProCounsel | January 27, 2010 7:25 PM | Report abuse

OBAMA IS SHAMELESS. POLLS ARE DOWN SO NOW OPEN SEASON ON QUEERS IN THE MILITARY TO GET HIS NUMBERS UP.SO MUCH FOR COMING TO THE MIDDLE..WAS IN THE SREVICE AND ALL YOU NEED IS A BUNCH OF RUMP RANGER IN BARACKS FOR PROBLEMS.THEY WANT TO KEEP USING OFFICERS WHO HAVE THEIR OWN PTIVATE QUARTERS OR HOMES AS A EXAMPLE OF HOW THIER IS NO PROBLEMS.ENOUGH OF THIS BULL POLITICAL CORRECTNESS.REMBER WHEN FAGS WITH AIDS AND THE OTHER MEDICAL PROBLEMS THEY HAVE WERE CONSIDERED A NATIONAL EPEDEMIC AND STILL IS .HOW EVERYONES HEALTHCARE PAYMENTS WOULD RISE TO PAY FOR THEIR GAINT MEDICAL BILLS AND COST OF FEDERAL DISABILITY FOR THEM.YEA OBOMA YOU REALLY ARE SOMETHING ELSE.

Posted by: dagner49 | January 27, 2010 7:22 PM | Report abuse

"Don't ask, don't tell Michelle, I'm one of them" finger in shushing gesture

Posted by: houston123 | January 27, 2010 7:21 PM | Report abuse

I applaud the act but not the timing. Being gay I have watched our government leaders cower in fear over this issue and come up with tons of reasons it cannot "work". Well it works in several other free civilized countries, and people would be surprised how many of our servicemen heroes came from the ranks of of its gay countrymen. My fear is the fuel this will give to the right to cloud the other issues, and this may have been better served in his first week in office (when hope for his programs were high), or his last! But the brave men and women who want to serve their country should not be held to a different standard indeed. They should get to hold there head up, and be proud to serve as themselves!

Posted by: glennpotvin | January 27, 2010 7:19 PM | Report abuse

I'm glad he's finally announcing it; it's been in the works for quite awhile now, and it’s time. You people who think nothing's getting done are mistaken; Pres. Obama is just quieter about it than others are. I don't think he feels the need to constantly toot his own horn; however, the American people do need it. I agree, donbl needs a job – he/she seems to have way too much time on his/her hands, and uses it to get angrier and angrier. Get off your duff and do something other than complain, it’s more productive and you will feel better.

Posted by: julieforBarack | January 27, 2010 7:18 PM | Report abuse

in war, those who are different end up being shot in the back...
but by obama's standards, we are not at war...
but being serious...
if you knew your buddy was gay and he was shot, would you splatter blood all over yourself not knowing if he had aids...

Posted by: DwightCollins | January 27, 2010 7:16 PM | Report abuse

I believe that the Don't Ask Don't Tell Policy regarding gays in the Military should be repealed, but the timing by President Obama to say this is to my mind suspect. He needs the Liberals to help push his agenda, but he leaves the liberals in the dust when he doesn't really need their support or at least what the President is being advised by his core group like Anxelrod and Rahm.

The focus of this State of the Union should be on Jobs, Jobs and more jobs. Listening to the needs of the Middle Class on Main Street and fighting the lobbyists from the Banks and Wall Street. Calling out the Republican Obstructionists and Blue Dog Democratic Party members in Congress as betrayers of the working folks in this country needs to be included in the President's goal in this State of The Union Address, not using gays in the Military as a smokescreen to "energize the Liberal base".

Posted by: Tommytoons | January 27, 2010 7:15 PM | Report abuse

This decision has nothing to do with human rights, this is a decision based on polictics and fading popularity, our military is already under a great deal of strain, lets dont make it even more difficult for them.

Posted by: kanderson1 | January 27, 2010 7:14 PM | Report abuse

obama must look at every poll and take the opposing view every chance he can take...

Posted by: DwightCollins | January 27, 2010 7:12 PM | Report abuse

so now.

if obama will just support

gay marriage

and rahm obamacare through

the republicans can win EVERY seat in november

Posted by: ProCounsel | January 27, 2010 7:07 PM | Report abuse

If Obama decides to quit, I won't tell. That works for me.

Posted by: richard36 | January 27, 2010 7:06 PM | Report abuse

america’s ONLY firewall
against the Depression Obama Virus

The Republican Party

Posted by: ProCounsel | January 27, 2010 7:05 PM | Report abuse

Is this going to be like Guantanamo Bay, where they make a pronouncement and then have to turn around and amend it when it proves unworkable?

The big question mark is- what about transgendered people who are physically male or female but dress and act as the opposite sex? Have they thought that one out? There aren't nearly as many, but this will come up, and when it does, I hope they have thought of a policy, because that would DEFINTELY be disruptive to good order in a military unit, even if people are now tolerant and/or accepting of gays and lesbians who act/dress reasonably normally. If they don't have a policy against the transgendered serving, then someone will wind up dead in a hazing incident. I'm not talking about people who have an extra chromosome; I mean the real flaming drag queens who would not now dress this way in a military unit. They'd better think this out really good when they issue the implementing regulations.

Posted by: ripvanwinkleincollege | January 27, 2010 7:02 PM | Report abuse

President Obama's proposal to repeal the "Don't Ask; Don't Tell" policy regarding gays in the service is his way to deemphasize the real issues at hand. Tonight he will be calling upon the four winds to put a living breath into his failed policies. I will not be screaming when he over uses his "Let me be clear about this" defensive phrase. I have better things to listen to his address.

Posted by: osramirez | January 27, 2010 7:01 PM | Report abuse

Only a non-serving mutt would suggest this. Even don't-ask was creepy.

Posted by: JamesChristian | January 27, 2010 7:00 PM | Report abuse

For those who appreciate truth and honesty, "equality" means that all who share in it must adhere to certain rules. No society on Earth would ever survive with every member -regardless of persuasion- being treated just alike. If "gays" want equality, they must meet the same standards of conduct as all others, and anyone who thinks there is some other way is simply not coherent. Many service people would react violently to being forced to share a tent or foxhole with ANY other person in whom they were very much at dis-ease. Doing away with the present "don't ask/don't tell" will lead to many bad incidents with intolerant people no matter which side of the question they are on. It will be much better to leave this policy alone: it is perhaps about the only sensible policy Bill Clinton every authored.

Posted by: churchlionjudah | January 27, 2010 6:57 PM | Report abuse

This President is self-destructive or just plain arrogance beyond our comprehension.

He should talk jobs, jobs, jobs and say he gets it.

Instead, pander, pander pander.

2010 midterm elections will make 1994 look like a win for the Democrats.

Posted by: donbl | January 27, 2010 6:56 PM | Report abuse

For those who appreciate truth and honesty, "equality" means that all who share in it must adhere to certain rules. No society on Earth would ever survive with every member -regardless of persuasion- being treated just alike. If "gays" want equality, they must meet the same standards of conduct as all others, and anyone who thinks there is some other way is simply not coherent. Many service people would react viokolently to being forced to share a tent or foxhole with ANY other person in whom they were very much at dis-ease. Doing away with the present "don't ask/don't tell" will lead to many bad incidents with intolerant people no matter which side of the question they are on. It will be much better to leave this policy alone: it is perhaps about the only sensible policy Bill Clinton every authored.

Posted by: churchlionjudah | January 27, 2010 6:55 PM | Report abuse

This is long overdue! Equal rights and protections are such important rights for ALL Americans.

Maybe this is the start of the change we've heard so much about?!

Posted by: jmichael1 | January 27, 2010 6:53 PM | Report abuse

That's nice, more jobs for Barry the incompetent boob Obama's core constitutency, the Rainbow coalition.

Way to go Barry, of course chickenhawk Obama who never spent a day of his life in military uniform would do this.

Posted by: screwjob2 | January 27, 2010 6:52 PM | Report abuse

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