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Top House Republicans throw cold water on health-care summit

By Michael D. Shear
Leading House Republicans raised the prospect Monday night that they might refuse to participate in President Obama's proposed health care summit if the White House chooses not to scrap the existing reform bills and start over.

In a letter to White House Chief of Staff Rahm Emanuel, House Minority Leader John A. Boehner (Ohio) and Minority Whip Eric Cantor (Va.) expressed frustration at reports that Obama intends to put the Democratic bills on the table for discussion at the Feb. 25 summit.

"If the starting point for this meeting is the job-killing bills the American people have already soundly rejected, Republicans would rightly be reluctant to participate," Boehner and Cantor wrote.

Obama proposed the half-day summit on national television Sunday, but in their letter, the two GOP leaders offer their suspicion that the president is not serious about opening a bipartisan negotiation on health care.

" 'Bipartisanship' is not writing proposals of your own behind closed doors, then unveiling them and demanding Republican support," Boehner and Cantor wrote. "Bipartisan ends require bipartisan means."

White House press secretary Robert Gibbs responded by saying that Obama has sought Republican input since early last year, and the president remains interested in hearing ideas that the GOP believe will advance the cause of health care reform.

But he appeared to give little ground on the idea that Obama might abandon the months of work that produced Democratic bills that passed the House and the Senate late last year.

"He's been very clear about his support for the House and Senate bills because of what they achieve for the American people: putting a stop to insurance company abuses, extending coverage to millions of hardworking Americans, getting control of rising premiums and out-of-pocket costs, and reducing the deficit," Gibbs said in a statement.

"The President looks forward to reviewing Republican proposals that meet the goals he laid out at the beginning of this process, and as recently as the State of the Union Address. He's open to including any good ideas that stand up to objective scrutiny. What he will not do, however, is walk away from reform and the millions of American families and small business counting on it."

The Republican letter, and Gibbs's response, follow:

February 8, 2010
The Honorable Rahm Emanuel
Chief of Staff
The White House
1600 Pennsylvania Avenue NW
Washington, DC 20500

Dear Mr. Emanuel:
We welcome President Obama's announcement of forthcoming bipartisan health care talks.  In fact, you may remember that last May, Republicans asked President Obama to hold bipartisan discussions on health care in an attempt to find common ground, but he declined and instead chose to work with only Democrats. 

Since then, the President has given dozens of speeches on health care reform, operating under the premise that the more the American people learn about his plan, the more they will come to like it.  Just the opposite has occurred: a majority of Americans oppose the House and Senate health care bills and want them scrapped so we can start over with a step-by-step approach focused on lowering costs for families and small businesses.  Just as important, scrapping the House and Senate health care bills would help end the uncertainty they are creating for workers and businesses and thus strengthen our shared commitment to focusing on creating jobs.

Assuming the President is sincere about moving forward on health care in a bipartisan way, does that mean he will agree to start over so that we can develop a bill that is truly worthy of the support and confidence of the American people?  Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius said today that the President is "absolutely not" resetting the legislative process for health care.  If the starting point for this meeting is the job-killing bills the American people have already soundly rejected, Republicans would rightly be reluctant to participate.

Assuming the President is sincere about moving forward in a bipartisan way, does that mean he has taken off the table the idea of relying solely on Democratic votes and jamming through health care reform by way of reconciliation?  As the President has noted recently, Democrats continue to hold large majorities in the House and Senate, which means they can attempt to pass a health care bill at any time through the reconciliation process.  Eliminating the possibility of reconciliation would represent an important show of good faith to Republicans and the American people.

If the President intends to present any kind of legislative proposal at this discussion, will he make it available to members of Congress and the American people at least 72 hours beforehand? 
Our ability to move forward in a bipartisan way through this discussion rests on openness and transparency. 

Will the President include in this discussion congressional Democrats who have opposed the House and Senate health care bills?  This bipartisan discussion should reflect the bipartisan opposition to both the House bill and the kickbacks and sweetheart deals in the Senate bill.

Will the President be inviting officials and lawmakers from the states to participate in this discussion?  As you may know, legislation has been introduced in at least 36 state legislatures, similar to the proposal just passed by the Democratic-controlled Virginia State Senate, providing that no individual may be compelled to purchase health insurance.  Additionally, governors of both parties have raised concerns about the additional costs that will be passed along to states under both the House and Senate bills.

The President has also mentioned his commitment to have "experts" participate in health care discussions.  Will the Feb. 25 discussion involve such "experts?"  Will those experts include the actuaries at the Center for Medicare and Medicaid Services (CMS), who have determined that the both the House and Senate health care bill raise costs - just the opposite of their intended effect - and jeopardize seniors' access to high-quality care by imposing massive Medicare cuts? Will those experts include the non-partisan Congressional Budget Office, which has stated that the GOP alternative would reduce premiums by up to 10 percent?  Also, will Republicans be permitted to invite health care experts to participate? 

Finally, as you know, this is the first televised White House health care meeting involving the President since last March.  Many health care meetings of the closed-door variety have been held at the White House since then, including one last month where a sweetheart deal was worked out with union leaders.  Will the special interest groups that the Obama Administration has cut deals with be included in this televised discussion?

Of course, Americans have been dismayed by the fact that the President has broken his own pledge to hold televised health care talks.  We can only hope this televised discussion is the beginning, not the end, of attempting to correct that mistake.  Will the President require that any and all future health care discussions, including those held on Capitol Hill, meet this common-sense standard of openness and transparency?

Your answers to these critical questions will help determine whether this will be a truly open, bipartisan discussion or merely an intramural exercise before Democrats attempt to jam through a job-killing health care bill that the American people can't afford and don't support.  'Bipartisanship' is not writing proposals of your own behind closed doors, then unveiling them and demanding Republican support.  Bipartisan ends require bipartisan means.
These questions are also designed to try and make sense of the widening gap between the President's rhetoric on bipartisanship and the reality.  We cannot help but notice that each of the President's recent bipartisan overtures has been coupled with harsh, misleading partisan attacks. 
For instance, the President decries Republican 'obstruction' when it was Republicans who first proposed bipartisan health care talks last May.  The President says Republicans are 'sitting on the sidelines' just days after holding up our health care alternative and reading from it word for word.  The President has every right to use his bully pulpit as he sees fit, but this is the kind of credibility gap that has the American people so fed up with business as usual in Washington.
We look forward to receiving your answers and continuing to discuss ways we can move forward in a bipartisan manner to address the challenges facing the American people.
Sincerely, 

House Republican Leader John Boehner (R-OH) 
House Republican Whip Eric Cantor (R-VA)
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Please find below a statement from White House Press Secretary Robert Gibbs in response to a letter sent today from House Republican Leader John Boehner and House Republican Whip Eric Cantor:
 
"The President is adamant that we seize this historic moment to pass meaningful health insurance reform legislation. He began this process by inviting Republican and Democratic leaders to the White House on March 5 of last year, and he's continued to work with both parties in crafting the best possible bill. He's been very clear about his support for the House and Senate bills because of what they achieve for the American people: putting a stop to insurance company abuses, extending coverage to millions of hardworking Americans, getting control of rising premiums and out-of-pocket costs, and reducing the deficit.
 
"The President looks forward to reviewing Republican proposals that meet the goals he laid out at the beginning of this process, and as recently as the State of the Union Address. He's open to including any good ideas that stand up to objective scrutiny. What he will not do, however, is walk away from reform and the millions of American families and small business counting on it. The recent news that a major insurer plans to raise premiums for some customers by as much as 39 percent is a stark reminder of the consequences of doing nothing."

By Michael D. Shear  |  February 8, 2010; 8:31 PM ET
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I still don't understand how it is the Republican's fault that the MAJORITY DEMOCRATS can't pass a bill.

Grow up and stop pointing fingers.

I do not want a bill that grants 15% of Americans healthcare that costs 3 TRILLION DOLLARS.

Here is an example of how big a BILLION is. If someone counted as fast as he could for his entire lifespan, he would never reach 1 billion. Do the math. Is this bill really worth it? Not for me it isn't. Not for anyone I know. For the 15% who do need it, get a job with all the jobs Obama's stimulus package has created...

oh wait...

Posted by: Leanintotheright | February 15, 2010 4:56 AM | Report abuse

We have universal health care today. If someone with no health insurance goes to most any hospital emergency room they will be treated. Any hospital that receives any federal funds must treat everyone that walks in the door and we pay for that.
Germany instituted universal health care while Bismark ruled, some 120 years ago. Every other civilized country in the world has universla health care. T. Roosevelt attempted to put universal heatlh care as have many other presidents including R. Nixon. What is before congress now is more conservative then that proposed by R. Nixon.
It is time the USA left the company of third world countries, Nigeria, the Congo, etc. and put in universal health care which is something that falls under the constituion where it says to provide for the general welfare of the people.

Posted by: kimmsr | February 12, 2010 7:53 PM | Report abuse

this is all about ILLNESS CARE - who will pay for it and how much!!

the first lady is alone in washington - doing the real work of getting and keeping us healthier as a nation by making kids aware that they need to eat better and exercise!

if we are serious about improving health and cutting the long and short term costs of care - we need to change what we eat and how we live!!!!

Posted by: boblesch | February 12, 2010 10:53 AM | Report abuse

What’s truly mind-boggling is this: Even as Republicans denounce modest proposals to rein in Medicare’s rising costs, they are, themselves, seeking to dismantle the whole program. And the process of dismantling would begin with spending cuts of about $650 billion over the next decade.

Posted by: boblesch | February 12, 2010 10:44 AM | Report abuse

It's sure better losing when you stan-up for your principles, especialaly when you may lose anyway.The President and the democrats must act to pass a health reform bill through reconciliation, if that's the only option remaining. You are the majority party STAND-UP and FIGHT!!

Posted by: cch1 | February 11, 2010 8:02 AM | Report abuse

OP-ED

Heath Care Reform Revolution March February 24, 2010

To Americas Second Line Of Defense:

We Veterans are abled , disabled or reserve. We once fought for our country, many still are, we where trained to be the best but it was with the support of those we were fighting for, The American people. we have fought with other nations, for there peoples freedom, Well our freedom is at risk. The freedom of the American people as well as the worlds is at risk, if we do not solve the health care reform issue; not just here in America but as long as there is one unhealthy human being the rest of the population we’ll be at risk for extinction. we are no different than any other species. We must act swiftly. Years ago during many past wars in a slumping almost none existing economy the wives, Mothers and children made great sacrifices back here on the home front sending us weapons armor and munitions that they assembled to send to us to help win a war. Why would we do any less for them. We were trained to be the best. We must stand together once more just as we did in our respective military careers. Immobilize to live 2/24/2010

We must stand strong, We must not waiver the American people are counting on us once again to show our might and protect the defenseless against the terrible wrong done to them by not having in the Constitution the right to all having equal opportunity to live a healthy and long life, for all mankind. They helped us receive many benefits since America existed. Lets pay it forward and honor the American people without health insurance by Marching for them on February 24, 2010 on all state capitals to show our legion belongs to the American people. (An unhealthy Human race makes it impossible to colonize another planet if that’s what we need for our survival). If you work against Heath Care Reform your working against your own survival.

PO3 Dethaniel Henry, Disabled

Posted by: dshldh | February 10, 2010 6:02 PM | Report abuse

OP-ED

Heath Care Reform Revolution March February 24, 2010

To Americas Second Line Of Defense:

We Veterans are abled , disabled or reserve. We once fought for our country, many still are, we where trained to be the best but it was with the support of those we were fighting for, The American people. we have fought with other nations, for there peoples freedom, Well our freedom is at risk. The freedom of the American people as well as the worlds is at risk, if we do not solve the health care reform issue; not just here in America but as long as there is one unhealthy human being the rest of the population we’ll be at risk for extinction. we are no different than any other species. We must act swiftly. Years ago during many past wars in a slumping almost none existing economy the wives, Mothers and children made great sacrifices back here on the home front sending us weapons armor and munitions that they assembled to send to us to help win a war. Why would we do any less for them. We were trained to be the best. We must stand together once more just as we did in our respective military careers. Immobilize to live 2/24/2010

We must stand strong, We must not waiver the American people are counting on us once again to show our might and protect the defenseless against the terrible wrong done to them by not having in the Constitution the right to all having equal opportunity to live a healthy and long life, for all mankind. They helped us receive many benefits since America existed. Lets pay it forward and honor the American people without health insurance by Marching for them on February 24, 2010 on all state capitals to show our legion belongs to the American people. (An unhealthy Human race makes it impossible to colonize another planet if that’s what we need for our survival). If you work against Heath Care Reform your working against your own survival.

PO3 Dethaniel Henry, Disabled

Posted by: dshldh | February 10, 2010 6:02 PM | Report abuse

miller515501:

I am highly confused. I've seen you, and other people, post messages to many different forums making statements very similar to yours:

"That way he can be tried in a court of LAW and found guilty of HIGH CRIMES AND TREASON AGAINST THE CONSTITUTION AND WE THE PEOPLE."

Whether or not you agree with Obama (I understand you don't, and that's fine), I truly don't understand what he has done that falls under the legal definition of "high crimes and treason". Doing something that you disagree with, or even something that the majority of Americans disagree with, is in no way illegal, and in no way violates the constitution. Could you help me understand, by citing specific examples and specific laws that you believe he is violating?

Thanks!

Posted by: miller515501

Posted by: mysticmercury | February 10, 2010 11:08 AM | Report abuse

Preventing Obama from destroying this country's medical system and economy is "doing something". Something the majority of this country now supports.

Posted by: JCM-51 | February 10, 2010 10:42 AM | Report abuse

It seems that the republican leadership just reinforced that they do not measure up. As it typically happens people who are afraid to lose a debate or discussion try to set up conditions to participate, as the republicans are trying to do here. They are just poor in debate and have no credible ideas to speak of. I say it is OK to give them a try, but if they fail to show up, or, what is much more probable, obstruct instead of participating in an honest fashion the democrats just should go ahead and pass the bill through reconciliation, ans pass it quickly.

Posted by: simon7382 | February 10, 2010 2:00 AM | Report abuse

Thanks for the reply bgreen2224,
I mentioned Texas not really knowing a lot about their state government- what you say reminds me of my own state government (Virginia). I've seen studies and analyses that clearly note tort costs as percentages of total spending but Texas is the only large scale, "real-world" example I'm aware of (in this country, at least). Thanks for the clarification.

Posted by: xplorer59 | February 10, 2010 1:09 AM | Report abuse

Republicans had NO input crafting the Health Care Deform Bill.To accecpt ANY of it would be a fools errend.The ones that do will be thrown out of office.Remember Republicans you did not get this far in one year without the tenacity of Conservatives.If you stab us in the back on this it will mean the end for you.You will be thrown out with the other RATS.

Posted by: Imarkex | February 9, 2010 11:50 PM | Report abuse

These are educated people in Congress? Are they not? or are they still stuck in high school. I know Jr. High school students who could get along and do a better job. Time to vote them all out and truely "scrap" it and start over!!!

Posted by: italco1 | February 9, 2010 10:42 PM | Report abuse

The better idea by far is to 'scrap' the Republican Congress and get on with the vote.

Posted by: kacameron | February 9, 2010 10:06 PM | Report abuse

I think this would be a mistake for the republicans to stone wall this summit. The old saying goes " If You are not part of the solution then you are part of the problem" The high cost of, and lack of access to Health Insurance needs fixing.

Posted by: dj_ingraham | February 9, 2010 8:52 PM | Report abuse

To those people saying we don't want healthcare reform, YOU LIE. The majority of the American People want healthcare reform. And no, the Democrats should say we extended the olive branch, they did not accept, so the hell with them.. Do reconciliation and move on. Obama should do what he promised to do and let the chips fall where they may!!

Posted by: ydream000 | February 9, 2010 7:04 PM
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you lie by omisssion.

the people want health care reform but not as propsed in either the house or the senate version. Which is what people on this blog have been saying.

as far as the dems going ahead and passing the bill? If they could have they would of already. This is such a poor bill that the dems couldn't even pass it with a super majority.

Posted by: dreadstalker | February 9, 2010 7:13 PM | Report abuse

What the Republicans want is have won in the last election. They didn't! The Republicans will work with this President when Hell freezes over. It takes balls to work for the good of the country and not the party. If they don't show up they show us what they show what they really are - cowards. Cowards have now balls their just eunuchs.

Posted by: mcdonalsherry | February 9, 2010 7:13 PM | Report abuse

Solution take the top 50% of leaders on both sides and kick them out of washington. Replace with Independents.

Posted by: jason58103 | February 9, 2010 7:08 PM | Report abuse

To those people saying we don't want healthcare reform, YOU LIE. The majority of the American People want healthcare reform. And no, the Democrats should say we extended the olive branch, they did not accept, so the hell with them.. Do reconciliation and move on. Obama should do what he promised to do and let the chips fall where they may!!

Posted by: ydream000 | February 9, 2010 7:04 PM | Report abuse

Minco, Sounds to me like youve got a bit of that class envy disease going on. However, I do know that the cushy healthcare in congress is both Dems and the Gop that won't give it up to have the same healthcare they so think is great for the rest of us, and that is wrong on both sides. What's good for the goose should be good for the gander, however those geese in Congress keep getting fatter and fatter. Hey maybe I've even got abit of that class envy going on to my surprise!!!

Posted by: drestarre | February 9, 2010 7:03 PM | Report abuse

so much misinformation in these blogs - Mr. Hartman, LBJ did not shove thru C. Rights - he did not want it - it was 'shoved thru' by the Republicans, who had to water it down to get enough dem's to vote for it; and it was not the first civil rights act, either - the 4 or 5 that had been passed by the republicans in the yrs after the civil war were overturned by the democrats, and their appointed judges.
Next, the democrats refused to even consider any republican's idea for HC; the dem's had a majority, didn't need the repubs and shut them out.
Obama has stated he is open to any idea, specially if it is not as expensive. If that is true, then why has he,and the dems, ignored such solutions? Including dumping the laws that created regulated insurance monopolies in the states cutting down on price reducing competition? that doesn't cost anything. What about dumping the mandates that drove up insurance prices? that doesn't cost the fed anything. what about promoting individual policies to get away from employer policies so no need to stick with a job just for HC? that would also increase competition and options, driving down prices. Then give us true tax deduction on individual and small bus insurance policies. encourage more HSA's, etc. With the end of the monopolies, ability to cross state lines and resulting increase in members, costs go down and it is more feasible to keep people with pre-existing conditions (and lower cost for same)The gov't regulations and policies have caused the cost of insurance coverage to escalate. There are so many other possibilities;gov't run/dictated/
controlled/single payor, etc is NOT the answer. did you read the bill? see the change in IRS rules? loss of confidentiality? loss of ability to go outside system if refused a treatment? mandates and dictates for each of us; loss of freedom? loss of self responsibility?
the massive bureaucratic cost that will never shrink, only grow? It is all about, again, power and control.......... not about what is in our best interests.

Posted by: attygirl | February 9, 2010 6:58 PM | Report abuse

I don;t claim to have any answers, we all know HEALTH CARE needs to be fixed. BUT by whom?? THe next statement says it all.
>>>>>>>

Let me get this straight......we're trying to pass a health care plan written by a committee whose chairman says he doesn't understand it, passed by a Congress that hasn't read it but exempts themselves from it, to be signed by a president that also hasn't read it and who smokes, with funding administered by a treasury chief who didn't pay his taxes, all to be overseen by a surgeon general who is obese, and financed by a country that's broke.

What the hell could possibly go wrong

Posted by: itscc721 | February 9, 2010 6:51 PM | Report abuse

I agree with miller515501.

Posted by: Imarkex | February 9, 2010 6:07 PM | Report abuse

So the GOP may have finally got some Balls.

I would think that AFTER the last televised conference with the Messiah that they would have learned their lesson.

The entire meeting on February 25 is a political ploy by Obama to insure that THE CURRENT VERSION of the Bill is passed.

He expects to showboat and brow beat some of the GOP to sign off on the bill.

Then he declares both parties agreed to the crap that he and his cronies are proposing.

If he plans on taking the existing plan, brushing off the dust and passing the Bill CONTRARY to what the American People Want.

Then he should be IMPEACHED for HIGH CRIMES and TREASON AGAINS WE THE PEOPLE.

Before we kick him out in 2012. That way he can be tried in a court of LAW and found guilty of HIGH CRIMES AND TREASON AGAINST THE CONSTITUTION AND WE THE PEOPLE.

Posted by: miller515501 | February 9, 2010 6:04 PM | Report abuse

Thank you for your reply to my post.

You said:
Let’s break this down... yes, we have undoubtedly executed a few innocent ones, the Justice system has not always been right but it is damn near 100% effective now with DNA testing...
As far as the rest of your statement... it is primarily centered around ONE demographic! Need I say more?
Posted by: TexanbygraceofGOD | February 9, 2010 3:34 PM
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Well, that does about say it all, doesn't it...KKKapital punishment OK, even if the innocent die and by the way, no DNA testing cop out for Cameron Todd Willingham, the last white guy that TEXAS MURDERED.
And as for the 'demographics' maybe on your way to your megamillions church, you can find someone else to drag to death behind your 'demographically described' vehicle.
Racist, without even the cajones to admit it..


Posted by: bgreen2224


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No problem. You have no idea what the hell I was talking about do you? I thought not! But hey, you bring up a good point that I doubt anyone in here would have the ba11s to discuss!

I WAS TALKING ABOUT ILLEGALS! IDIOT!

Posted by: TexanbygraceofGOD | February 9, 2010 6:00 PM | Report abuse

Republican Positions on Health Care Reform, to be implemented after a complete and total scrapping of the Democrats' corrupt, bloated, useless bills:

#1 Declare in no uncertain terms that health care is not a fundamental right or entitlement guaranteed by the federal or state government;

#2 NO government option, no government take-over, no socialization of health care;

#3 Keep government hands off current health care structure for all those who like their current health care insurance;

#4 Free market, competition-driven rationing of health care determined by the patient and his doctor NOT Government-empowered 'death' panels (please spare me the hysterical disclaimer here-EVERYONE knows there are administrative panels who determine health care rationing right now);

#5 Defragment the insurance market by breaking down the boundaries established by overriding current states’ mandatory health care requirements, allowing heath insurance to be sold across state lines;

#6 Require persons with preexisting medical conditions, who could have paid for health care, but opted not to pay for it until their condition was diagnosed, to pay higher health insurance premiums and/or to pay into a health plan for 12-months before receiving benefits;

#7 Expand and incentivize lower health care insurance options, such as health savings accounts and higher-deductable, lower-premium insurance plans;

#8 Subsidize minimum health care providing clinics in low-income areas;

#9 Enact serious tort reform with extreme monetary and punitive penalties for those filing nuisance lawsuits.

Posted by: MYSTICMOUSE44 | February 9, 2010 5:23 PM | Report abuse

What's up with WaPo? I didn't post 3 times

Posted by: jmk55 | February 9, 2010 5:09 PM | Report abuse

Nice post, xplorer59, except that referring to the 'Texas experience' with tort reform is probably not a great source of proof that money won't be saved/costs won't decline.
Texas' legislature and especially the Govs office is in the hands of the insurance companies, snout-in-the-trough lobbyists/lawyers and has the most broken justice system in the nation, notably the Texas Supremes.
Other than that, commendable writing.

Posted by: bgreen2224 | February 9, 2010 4:54 PM | Report abuse

Bipartisan healthcare summit, what a joke.
The Senate version of the bill must be approved by the House, and Pelosi herself said she does not have the votes to pass it. The bill is dead and knowing this, our administration wants to invite the Republicans to the table, so it can later blame them for obstructionism. Scrap this crap and start over!

Posted by: jmk55 | February 9, 2010 4:48 PM | Report abuse

Bipartisan healthcare summit, what a joke.
The Senate version of the bill must be approved by the House, and Pelosi herself said she does not have the votes to pass it. The bill is dead and knowing this, our administration wants to invite the Republicans to the table, so it can later blame them for obstructionism. Scrap this crap and start over!

Posted by: jmk55 | February 9, 2010 4:47 PM | Report abuse

Bipartisan healthcare summit, what a joke.
The Senate version of the bill must be approved by the House, and Pelosi herself said she does not have the votes to pass it. The bill is dead and knowing this, our administration wants to invite the Republicans to the table, so it can later blame them for obstructionism. Scrap this crap and start over!

Posted by: jmk55 | February 9, 2010 4:46 PM | Report abuse

There are many thoughtful, well-reasoned posts here and I'd like to recommend a few for reading (I've also left out many others who've offered some great thoughts due to space and time constraints):

Post by: Hegelfan | February 9, 2010 12:19 PM

Post by: rmorris391 | February 9, 2010 12:18 PM

as well as several posts by ai3di, and others. But many posts here simply perpetuate ignorance and misunderstanding.

Posted by several people- Obama's budget deficit will destroy this nation:

We were already IN debt when Obama was elected- have been since W scrapped Clinton's budget proposals and squandered the multi-billion dollar surplus we had in 2000 as well as the projected future deficit reductions (as per the CBO). More than 80% of the current national debt was created by W and lockstep Republicans- LOOK IT UP!

And to those who believe that increasing the CURRENT deficit is NEVER a fiscally sound idea, I think I can provide a pretty good analogy for people who don't actually understand the meaning of the word "budget":

I (hypothetically of course) owe another $100,000.00 on a mortgage that if I continue making payments on for the final 20 years will actually cost me approximately $275,000.00, BUT if I borrow money today at a lower rate and pay off the mortgage now I'd save the additional $175,000.00, but my budget for the next several years will be very tight, wouldn't I be foolish to NOT pay off the mortgage now, since short term suffering will in the long run dramatically improve my financial situation? Any other action wouldn't be fiscally prudent.

And many people seem to have bought into the illusion that Tort reform would actually save a great deal of money; Texas has already instituted Tort reform but it hasn't made a measurable difference in costs.

As for those who refer to Obama as the anti-Christ, you're simply displaying your lack of knowledge of the Bible, which is perfectly understandable considering what is taught in church: the Book of Revelations was not written about the End Time of the world, but referred directly to the struggles of the early Christians as a message of hope. Nero began the first war between Rome and Jerusalem and burned the Temple at Jerusalem. The number of the beast, 666, is a numerical translation John used (a process called gematria in which a number is used to represent a letter) to name the "Beast" without actually writing the name- Nero. The Roman Emporor Nero blamed the newly formed sect of Christians for the fire that destroyed half of Rome and began the first Roman persecution of Christians, feeding them to lions for public sport and burning them as torches among other atrocities! Obviously the still outlawed Christians needed all the hope and encouragement they could get.

Posted by: xplorer59 | February 9, 2010 4:44 PM | Report abuse

This should be the last time Obama extends the olive branch to a bunch of cowards that throw a rock and hide their hand. They are afraid of being embarassed like they were at their own conference. Now Obama and the Democrats should just pass a bill using reconciliation and move on. The idiots calling Obama s Socialist evidently does not know what the word implies. I learned in school that a socialist was one who took from the rich and gave to the poor. From what main street is screaming about now is bailing out wallstreet. So How is that a socialist?? Why don't you idiots calling Obama a Socialist get your act together?? What a bunch of morons you are!! And by the way, I would bet 99.9% of you screaming about the role of government, I would bet you had or still get some form of government assistance.

Posted by: ydream000 | February 9, 2010 4:36 PM | Report abuse

The Republicans better run, run, run from this trap of Obama's. Our misguided president does not care what the country wants. Obama is telling the country to go to hell, he's going to do what he wants anyway.

Obama needs to be stopped by the Republicans not attending this farce.

Posted by: sbduncaster | February 9, 2010 4:32 PM | Report abuse

lcarter0311 wrote:

"You can trust me on that"

ROFL...

That's what Obama said...

...I'm sorry, but liberals saying "trust me" is like conservatives saying "trust me", not with anything of any value I'd wager.

Posted by: deadmanwalking | February 9, 2010 4:28 PM | Report abuse

Thank you for your reply to my post.

You said:
Let’s break this down... yes, we have undoubtedly executed a few innocent ones, the Justice system has not always been right but it is damn near 100% effective now with DNA testing...
As far as the rest of your statement... it is primarily centered around ONE demographic! Need I say more?
Posted by: TexanbygraceofGOD | February 9, 2010 3:34 PM
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Well, that does about say it all, doesn't it...KKKapital punishment OK, even if the innocent die and by the way, no DNA testing cop out for Cameron Todd Willingham, the last white guy that TEXAS MURDERED.
And as for the 'demographics' maybe on your way to your megamillions church, you can find someone else to drag to death behind your 'demographically described' vehicle.
Racist, without even the cajones to admit it..

Posted by: bgreen2224 | February 9, 2010 4:16 PM | Report abuse

Rahm Emanuel should reply by simply thanking them profusely for their thoughts and promising that the President will respond personally and in full detail on February 25, to the Republican leaders and before the cameras so the American public can see the response in the full light of bright sunshine.

Posted by: MarkofLewiston1 | February 9, 2010 4:08 PM | Report abuse

The only reason obama wants bipartisanship now is because of MA. the election there and the overwhelming desertion by independents has the dem leadership shaking in their boots. He wants the blame to fall elsewhere when the blame rightly lies with the dems.
And that is exactly where the american voters are placing the blame.

Obama is trying to find another scapegoat/villan, rather then facing up to the simple fact that americans do not want this bill.

A lot of people was hoodwinked by the campaign rhetoric in 08. The wool has been lifted out of their eyes and they see the change that was promised isn't the change they have recieved.

Posted by: dreadstalker | February 9, 2010 4:08 PM | Report abuse

Scott Brown goes from posing Nude to Senator, Sarah Palin goes from Prom Queen to Presidential Candidate and leader of GOP. Rush Limbaugh from Drag Queen to GOP leader. There's a pattern developing here! Wink, Wink, Pick-up truck, Intolerant Isolationism. Seem to be reaching a certain populous. Look who's attending Tea Parties, look who's not. Very telling!

Posted by: minco_007 | February 9, 2010 4:02 PM | Report abuse

The tenacity of Consrevatives is strong.Conservatives are going to conserve The Declaration Of Independence,The Constitution,Capitalism,and the American way.If you don't like it get out.

Posted by: Imarkex | February 9, 2010 3:54 PM | Report abuse

I am done with insincere persons who were quite content with all things progressively corrupt demanding NOW to hear from the Republicans. They don't care. They would not be sweating like pigs if Scott Brown had not been elected.

It can't be that one little election in Massachusetts woke up the ethical integrity of ALL THE DEMS. It just cannot be. They thought they had all of this CORRUPTED special interest unjustified health care reform stuff all sewed up - to the liking of all of the dems' special interest friends.

I am incensed and increasingly disgusted that the dems - who promised a new era in politics if only we were hood winked into voting for Obama - have done what they did - this entire past year.

Not a sincere, caring or competent bone in any of their bodies.

Posted by: eastcomom | February 9, 2010 3:53 PM | Report abuse

I think we ought to just let all of them Southern states succeed the Union and any state were the folks think, act, and talk like southerners, e.g., Alaska.

Getting rid of those states ought to shed billions, if not trillions off the Federal Budgets and the Defict.

By golly, you can trust me on that.

Posted by: lcarter0311
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OK!


Posted by: TexanbygraceofGOD | February 9, 2010 3:51 PM | Report abuse

...Now, I know Texas is a big state, hell I practically lived there all my damn life over there in Midland/Odessa. Maybe, that's the problem with some of you folks. You been inhaling too much cow manure, or oil & gas fumes, or too much grass from Mexico.

But in honesty, you really do need to get in your Ford or Dodge pickups and drive through other parts of the country and see what's really going on.

Posted by: lcarter0311


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Now that we all know you got an A in geography lets see how you did in Economics and Government...

Fair Housing Act (Sponsored by Barney Frank and other liberal Dems)... forced banks and lending institutions to grant loans to people who could not afford them. How could someone making $50K a year not qualify for a $200K loan but take someone making $20K a year and he would qualify through Fannie and Freddie? Does that make sense? Who do you think would be more likely to repay that loan....?

Now, multiply that by 10's of thousands of loans and coupled with the Sub-prime mortgage industry and what do you get.... a financial MELTDOWN!!!

So, keep pointing your fingers and maybe someone will listen!

Posted by: TexanbygraceofGOD | February 9, 2010 3:49 PM | Report abuse

The only reason we are even having this discussion is because independent voters were snookered into voting for a socialist posing as a moderate liberal.

Those independents are now thinking -
"Fool me once, shame on you!
Fool me twice shame on me!"

The tide is turning. It will accelerate this fall, and will complete in 2012.
Hopefully the country will return to true moral and fiscal conservatism, not the watered down moderate conservatism of the Bush era.

True liberals and socialist should now start looking elsewhere for a country to call home.

Posted by: Chamaco | February 9, 2010 3:48 PM | Report abuse

I think we ought to just let all of them Southern states succeed the Union and any state were the folks think, act, and talk like southerners, e.g., Alaska.

Getting rid of those states ought to shed billions, if not trillions off the Federal Budgets and the Defict.

By golly, you can trust me on that.

Posted by: lcarter0311 | February 9, 2010 3:43 PM | Report abuse

I hope the GOP does NOT boycott the health care summit. I would like to hear a clear point by point discussion of the bills under consideration, with the Republican take on whether they agree or disagree with each item, and their reasoning. What might they take out of the current bill and why? What might they add and why? How would it all fit together as amended?

Despite all the hype about the election of a 41st Republican Senator, that is hardly the voice of the American people repudiating the administration. Forty-one senators cannot speak for the majority of American voters. They don't even speak for the majority of Senators. And in general, people seem to think 'majority rules' when consensus can't be reached.

What is so unreasonable about the idea that the the majority of elected legislators plus the president should set the main outlines of the legislative agenda, and the minority should put forward their ideas to shape the final bills, without expecting that they, the minority, will call the shots? Looks like 'if you won't play my way, I'll take my toys and go pout in the corner.'

When the GOP legislators claim that the Democrats don't listen to their ideas, shut them out, etc., it seems that what they mean is, their ideas aren't allowed in all cases to prevail.

Although I am sure Republican legislators have many and various ideas about how health care could be reformed, we only hear the same 'talking points' when they speak to the public. Can it be that among them, there are so few ideas, and they all agree on these few? They 'want reform, but not this reform.' They want to 'start over, scrap what has already been done.' They warn of a 'massive government takeover.' They say 'health care delayed is health care denied.' Well, by the same token, 'health care reform delayed is health care reform denied,' and DELAY/DENY is what seems to be their real intent.

The Democrats can be really exasperating, with all their various ideas, many of which conflict. But at least, there's a ferment of ideas going on among them, while the GOP merely repeats the same few 'talking points' and refuses to get involved. From a ferment of ideas, something workable can emerge. From half a dozen reiterated 'talking points,' nothing will emerge but sterility and paralysis.

Those of us who are still following the health care debate hoping for progress deserve to hear something deeper and more complex that a rehearsal of 'talking points' and buzz words/phrases, and that goes for both parties! Throw away the PR scripts and really discuss the possibilities.

Let us see a real open discussion of the proposed bill, with genuine intent to find common ground, improve it where possible, reshape, amend, etc by agreement, and MOVE FORWARD! There's no call to throw away all the hard work that has gone into the bill. Instead, shape it up. What are you all afraid of?

Posted by: PeggyB1 | February 9, 2010 3:42 PM | Report abuse

The GOP is a fractured party and are scrambling to find unity by stopping any and all proposals from the other side. They are willing to sell their souls to get what they want.

AMERICAS IS NOT FOR SALE!...but in their hands, it would not take long before we would be. They want things to remain the same as they were for the past 8 years under W and that is absolutely wrong. The people wanted change and that includes change within GOP politics.

Let's try to work together and accept that our President is there to make America the best it can be and most of all, UNITED.

Posted by: DCSPORTSFANATIC | February 9, 2010 3:36 PM | Report abuse

Knowing what most of us know about the misguided, hypocrite filled state of Texas, that leads the nation in: executing innocent people, high school drop outs, uninsured children and abandoned babies, it seems nothing short of hilarious that someone from there would even think their opinions would be read, much less considered.

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Let’s break this down... yes, we have undoubtedly executed a few innocent ones, the Justice system has not always been right but it is damn near 100% effective now with DNA testing...

As far as the rest of your statement... it is primarily centered around ONE demographic! Need I say more?

Posted by: TexanbygraceofGOD | February 9, 2010 3:34 PM | Report abuse

The Republicans are doing exactly what they were sent to Washington to do:

Represent the American people......Who DO NOT WANT THIS BILL!

The right thing for America is to start over....but the Democrats don't want to budge one inch. They want to force the Republicans to agree with them. If they disagree, they want to call them obstructionists. Does the Obama Administration think we're all stupid?! Evidently, yes.

Stay strong Republicans - refuse to play ball with these thugs unless they clearly answer the questions! Gibb's response was lame.

Posted by: thinker16 | February 9, 2010 3:10 PM | Report abuse
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You see, the RIght PURPOSEFULLY elected representatives that STALL any WORK DONE BY CONGRESS>
THis is the idea of the RIGHT -- EITHER OUR GOVERNMENT RUNS THE SHOW OR THERE WILL BE NO GOVERNMENT>

THis country is no longer a democracy but an IDIOCRACY.
In other columns in the Post today, people RANT and rave about "What is the government of HAITI doing to help its people"

Why can't the government of IRAQ get elections together?


Heck we want to rip on other governments for not working for the PEOPLE THEY SERVE>

HOW'S OUR CURRENT GOVERNMENT WORKING FOR YA...
SEEMS TO ME THIS GREAT DEMOCRACY WHICH CHIMPIE BUSH WANTED TO SPREAD ALL OVER THE WORLD is pretty dam sick and not so great a model.

Posted by: kare1 | February 9, 2010 3:34 PM | Report abuse

Ma. already showed what america thinks of the health bill.

Dems. it's time to wake up and smell the coffee.

Posted by: dreadstalker | February 9, 2010 3:34 PM | Report abuse

lcarter0311, living up to your last name, I see!

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I'ma tell you, like I tell everybody else.

Carter is just my married name. It don't mean nuthin' but that & it really don't say a lot about who I really am.

You can trust on that.

Posted by: lcarter0311 | February 9, 2010 3:34 PM | Report abuse

lcarter0311, living up to your last name, I see!

Posted by: houston123 | February 9, 2010 3:30 PM | Report abuse

Off topic for this article, but isn't it interesting how quickly the media ran away from the earlier news about the Administration attempting to kill the manned space program?

Posted by: RGee1 | February 9, 2010 3:29 PM | Report abuse

And it will be the same if they don't pass it. More Repugs will lose their jobs, then Dems.

Obama will still have another 3 years to go. Can you say "Drunk with Power"?

Posted by: lcarter0311
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You are exactly right about the 3 years! He will go down in history right next to Carter as the "One Term Wonder" who tried to destroy America and FAILED!

Posted by: TexanbygraceofGOD

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Why is it so hard for Republicans, especially those living in Texas not be able to see that your good Ol' Boy George has already damn near failed 90% of the country. There really ain't too much more damage that Obama can do.

You folks are going to have to come up out of them sticks and backwoods Texas for you be able to see what's going on in the upper 49.

Now, I know Texas is a big state, hell I practically lived there all my damn life over there in Midland/Odessa. Maybe, that's the problem with some of you folks. You been inhaling too much cow manure, or oil & gas fumes, or too much grass from Mexico.

But in honesty, you really do need to get in your Ford or Dodge pickups and drive through other parts of the country and see what's really going on.

Posted by: lcarter0311 | February 9, 2010 3:28 PM | Report abuse

Beware Reboobs.

The Party of Mo', mo' DEFICITS, mo' SOCIALISM, mo' SPENDING, mo' TAXES, mo' REPARATIONS, mo' ABORTION, mo' TERRORISM, and mo' AMNESTY.....want mo' of your TIME to just stand there and let Obumbler LECTURE you about how obstructionist you are for not 'compromising' with him and letting him have, not even a little bit of his rotten Marxist Central Planning passed in Congress.

Keep saying "NO" to "MO'".

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Posted by: mipost1 | February 9, 2010 3:27 PM | Report abuse

Unbelievable how u dems are so gullible. What makes any of you think you have the right to demand anything. You were all voted in to work FOR the people. You obviously don't care that the people you work for have voiced their opinion of "Healthcare Reform" loudly and are just going to ignore it.
I bet if we forced all politcians in office to participate in these programs created to "protect" us they would be much less enthusiastic once they lost all of their "Cadillac" plans.

Posted by: gman1907 | February 9, 2010 3:25 PM | Report abuse

It's a waste of time to start over with a blank piece of paper, especially since many of the proposals in the current bills are items supporting, if not proposed, by Republicans in the past. I don't see any problem with saying, "ok, this bill as 10 things in it. Which are the ones we already agree on?" and get those out of the way.

I mean, really, quit the political posturing already and get down to work. Personally, I think that the parties should tell both Pelosi and Boehner to stay home for a few days to see if any work can get done. Seems to me that the "leadership" on both sides are a major part of the problem. I think that the Republicans could make a major step forward by just saying, "look, we know that this isn't socialism, and we know that there are no death panels. Here are some things we can agree on, and here are some things that we really can't give ground on."

Posted by: RGee1 | February 9, 2010 3:25 PM | Report abuse

Houston123, Just in here stirring up the chickens to see what they laid... yup, a bunch of eggs! Go figure!

Posted by: TexanbygraceofGOD
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Doin a good job at it I can see; too bad they are dud eggs

Posted by: houston123 | February 9, 2010 3:24 PM | Report abuse

The Dems seem to forget they control both houses of Congress and the White House. What am I missing here? They don't need a super-majority. Parties rarely have that. The Dems need to use whatever tools are required--reconciliation being only one option--to get a bill passed. Perfect bills are a fantasy and waiting for one will ensure no progress is made at all. My 8th grade government teacher used to say, "Sometimes you have to take a half a loaf." Words of wisdom. Politics is messy, there are always trade-offs, and special interests always get a say. Get over it.

Some Republican proposals have merit (tort reform for example) and should be taken up at some point. But Dems need to stop waiting for Republicans to join hands with them, sing Kumbaya, and hop on the peace train. That isn't going to happen. Republicans will object to any bill other than their own. That's what minority parties do. They're entitled to object, but they don't get to have their bill. That's how it works when you lose elections.

Voters can change that in November if they don't like what the Dems are doing, but in the meantime the Dems need to start showing some backbone and acting like the majority party.

Posted by: davidmckittrick | February 9, 2010 3:21 PM | Report abuse

It is not enough to have representatives of the two national political parties in the room to negotiate a health plan deal. In order for the result of the conference to have any meaning, the drug and insurance lobbies have to be in the room. After all, politicians from both parties pander to those corporations. It is just not workable to have both Republicans and Democrats running out of the room to report to their corporate masters and go back in to do their bidding. Too much confusion. And, if the corporate masters are in the room, there is no longer a question of whether one of the political parties will or will not participate.

Posted by: healthyskeptic | February 9, 2010 3:21 PM | Report abuse

Knowing what most of us know about the misguided, hypocrite filled state of Texas, that leads the nation in: executing innocent people, high school drop outs, uninsured children and abandoned babies, it seems nothing short of hilarious that someone from there would even think their opinions would be read, much less considered.

Posted by: bgreen2224 | February 9, 2010 3:20 PM | Report abuse

Houston123, Just in here stirring up the chickens to see what they laid... yup, a bunch of eggs! Go figure!

Posted by: TexanbygraceofGOD | February 9, 2010 3:19 PM | Report abuse

I am going to pray for you.
Posted by: lcarter0311

Save yur breath! They don't call us "the right" for nothing, we are RIGHT!

Posted by: houston123
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In that case... would it make you feel better, if I cursed you, instead.

I am pretty good at the too.

Posted by: lcarter0311 | February 9, 2010 3:19 PM | Report abuse

SCRAP IT.

The House and Senate, Democrat, Republican, and Independent, need to come up with a clear concise bill. Not a hodge podge of pet projects for liberal extremists, and progressive socialists, that is over 2,000 pages long, which most probably still have not read. A Bill written by other liberal extremists that were not voted into office by the American Citizenry, and that are not representative of the desires of the Majority of Americans.

President Obama is showing he is a total fool and imbecile for not scrapping this bill. He thinks we are fools for saying that he is for starting from scratch with his moronic caveats.

We need fiscal responsibility first. Not more entitlements and benefits thrust onto the backs of the Tax Paying American working class citizens. The problem is, Liberal progressive extremist Democrats, do not care about the American working class tax paying citizen.

The vote in Massachusettes will be mirrored across the Country in the fall if the Democrat Leadership continues down the same track of ignoring the majority, and pushing for massive socialist spending bills.

To all the naysayers of the past Administration, this is not saying that Bush or Progressive Republicans did any better. They went down the path of the Progressive Democrats and fiscal unresponsibility. That is why they were lost the majorities in the House and Senate.

Whether Democrat, Republican or Independent. The American People deserve fiscally responsbile, intelligent, moral leadership. Many have seen the mistake of believing that the 2006 House and Senate and then Barack Obama was the answer. This mistake will be corrected starting in the Fall of 2010, and then for sure in 2012. This will be a victory for America's citizenry, but only if fiscally responsible, intelligent, moral choices are available on both sides of the isle.

Posted by: ignoranceisbliss | February 9, 2010 3:17 PM | Report abuse

And it will be the same if they don't pass it. More Repugs will lose their jobs, then Dems.

Obama will still have another 3 years to go. Can you say "Drunk with Power"?

Posted by: lcarter0311
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You are exactly right about the 3 years! He will go down in history right next to Carter as the "One Term Wonder" who tried to destroy America and FAILED!
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Yeah we need another highly successful Republican like George Bush. Or did you not notice?

Posted by: minco_007 | February 9, 2010 3:17 PM | Report abuse

I am going to pray for you.
Posted by: lcarter0311

Save yur breath! They don't call us "the right" for nothing, we are RIGHT!

Posted by: houston123 | February 9, 2010 3:16 PM | Report abuse

RepubliKKKan behavior will hopefully, finally convince us all that the posturing done by them is just that and they possess the same integrity and credibility as Iran's President, Ah-Ma-Diddle-You.
Once the White House begins to act on this FACT, which can no longer be excused by even ex-RepubliKKKans who have had enough of this nonsense, the realization that remaining RepubliKKKans really do want this country to fail will put an end to a party that's 'way, 'way, 'way past its time. End evil.

Posted by: bgreen2224 | February 9, 2010 3:15 PM | Report abuse

And it will be the same if they don't pass it. More Repugs will lose their jobs, then Dems.

Obama will still have another 3 years to go. Can you say "Drunk with Power"?

Posted by: lcarter0311
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You are exactly right about the 3 years! He will go down in history right next to Carter as the "One Term Wonder" who tried to destroy America and FAILED!

Posted by: TexanbygraceofGOD | February 9, 2010 3:13 PM | Report abuse

I miss W!

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You poor delusional soul, you.

I am going to pray for you.

Posted by: lcarter0311 | February 9, 2010 3:13 PM | Report abuse

Nobody really expects these greedy children to show up. Further, who cares. They have absolutely nothing intelligent or viable to say.

Posted by: allowme1 | February 9, 2010 3:12 PM | Report abuse

We're waiting for the right-wing critics of President Obama to give us something beyond (and far above) their obvious hatred. Oh, for some calm and reason from these people!

Posted by: jimsteinberg1 | February 9, 2010 3:12 PM | Report abuse

The 'party of no' continues to live up to its name.

Posted by: fichblue | February 9, 2010 3:12 PM | Report abuse

I have never seen such hatred spewed out than by many Democrats on this issue. I know you mostly want something for free, IT'S NOT GONNA BE FREE!!!!!! We will all pay for it and the healthcare will be inferior, rationed and grandpa and grandma's lifespan will be cut short. What is wrong with you all, can't you see the writing on the wall. Congress will sit back with their cushy healthcare and so will unions, while the rest of us will suffer. You think we are suffering now, wait till Obamacare!!!
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We all paid for Iraq, Wall Street, Rich CEO's, Halliburton, Blackwater, Richard Reids trial in Civil Court, Automotive Giants, Whitewater investigation, Government cheese for Montana and West Virginia, The Bridge to nowhere in Alaska, That Congress you speak about with the cushy healthcare are Republicans and Democrats! So where's yours? Republicans have controlled Congress 14 of the last 20 years. They didn't even bring it up.

Posted by: minco_007 | February 9, 2010 3:11 PM | Report abuse

Were it not for the inane filibuster rule in the Senate and its abuse by Republicans, this bill would be law. Until some sanity is restored to Senate procedures, nothing will get done. The people have spoken and elected Democrats to pass Democrat-sponsored bills. But instead, Republican Senators from small state are controlling the debate. It is time to make changes, Sen. Reid.

Posted by: gtinla | February 9, 2010 3:11 PM | Report abuse

The Republicans are doing exactly what they were sent to Washington to do:

Represent the American people......Who DO NOT WANT THIS BILL!

The right thing for America is to start over....but the Democrats don't want to budge one inch. They want to force the Republicans to agree with them. If they disagree, they want to call them obstructionists. Does the Obama Administration think we're all stupid?! Evidently, yes.

Stay strong Republicans - refuse to play ball with these thugs unless they clearly answer the questions! Gibb's response was lame.

Posted by: thinker16 | February 9, 2010 3:10 PM | Report abuse

TexanbygraceofGOD, howdy!

Posted by: houston123 | February 9, 2010 3:10 PM | Report abuse

Funny thing!

Passing this bill would be an election death knell for Obama and any congressman who votes for it. Why? Because the sane people in this country see it for what it is. A government take over that does not really address the issues.

The irony is those congressmen that are for it will lose their jobs because of the disservice it does to their constituents. Can you say "Drunk with power?"

Posted by: Chamaco |

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And it will be the same if they don't pass it. More Repugs will lose their jobs, then Dems.

Obama will still have another 3 years to go. Can you say "Drunk with Power"?

Posted by: lcarter0311 | February 9, 2010 3:09 PM | Report abuse

We should give the democrats a larger majority in the senate in November,then they should go ahead with their healthcare plan but WITH a Public Option and ignore the say NO do Nothing republicans and get the job done. If anyone listens to Mitch McConnell and John Boehner this country will be destroyed further than it's been in the past 8 disasterous years of republican rule.The republicans have no plan or the knowledge to form a plan that doesn't have tax cuts for the wealthy that's all they know since their darling Ronald Reagan robbed Social Security to pay for his tax cuts to the most wealthy.I'm a registered Independent who sees what the republicans have done to destroy our way of life.

Posted by: LDTRPT25
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Why should we do that? The Dems have had the House and Senate since 2007 and they STILL have done nothing but squander away OUR way of life! Get your facts straight, organize them into a clear thought, and then come back to the table!

Posted by: TexanbygraceofGOD | February 9, 2010 3:07 PM | Report abuse

I miss W!

Posted by: houston123 | February 9, 2010 3:06 PM | Report abuse

Why should they show up? Michelle runs the house!

Posted by: houston123 |

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Well, she could serve them all coffee, or shall I say TEA.

I am sure that would get their jollies off... being served coffee or tea by Michelle Obama.

Posted by: lcarter0311 | February 9, 2010 3:06 PM | Report abuse

Now we have proof that the Republicans do not care whether our citizens live or die. To refuse to participate is tatamount to saying "we don't care about you - we only care about ourselves, the rich & the corporations".
SHAME ON YOU ALL

Posted by: Tonisongbird34 | February 9, 2010 2:57 PM | Report abuse
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WOW, is that what the Republicans are saying? You should write a book! LOL

Posted by: sanmateo1850 | February 9, 2010 3:06 PM | Report abuse

Funny thing!

Passing this bill would be an election death knell for Obama and any congressman who votes for it. Why? Because the sane people in this country see it for what it is. A government take over that does not really address the issues.

The irony is those congressmen that are for it will lose their jobs because of the disservice it does to their constituents. Can you say "Drunk with power?"

Posted by: Chamaco | February 9, 2010 3:05 PM | Report abuse

We should give the democrats a larger majority in the senate in November,then they should go ahead with their healthcare plan but WITH a Public Option and ignore the say NO do Nothing republicans and get the job done. If anyone listens to Mitch McConnell and John Boehner this country will be destroyed further than it's been in the past 8 disasterous years of republican rule.The republicans have no plan or the knowledge to form a plan that doesn't have tax cuts for the wealthy that's all they know since their darling Ronald Reagan robbed Social Security to pay for his tax cuts to the most wealthy.I'm a registered Independent who sees what the republicans have done to destroy our way of life.

Posted by: LDTRPT25 | February 9, 2010 2:58 PM | Report abuse

If the Democrats gave the Republicans everything they wanted, they would find some other reason not to work for healthcare reform. Their real position is to make Medicare and Social Security unsustainable. Karl Rove was quoted early in the Bush administration that they wanted to run up the deficits so they could defund many domestics programs. They have come close to that goal. If all the Republicans and Tea Party people think these benefits are so bad, they should not apply for them. At least they would put their money where their mouths are.

Posted by: jeanhecht | February 9, 2010 2:58 PM | Report abuse

Why should they show up? Michelle runs the house!

Posted by: houston123 | February 9, 2010 2:58 PM | Report abuse

Now we have proof that the Republicans do not care whether our citizens live or die. To refuse to participate is tatamount to saying "we don't care about you - we only care about ourselves, the rich & the corporations".
SHAME ON YOU ALL

Posted by: Tonisongbird34 | February 9, 2010 2:57 PM | Report abuse

I'm sure it's not just me that has noticed that the GOP position is that 'bipartisanship' means 'passing our bill with none of your priorities included'.

The Senate bill, while far from perfect, contains a significant number of GOP ideas. That WAS the point of the whole gang of 6 effort last fall, wasn't it? To the extent that it created a moderate bill, this was successful. However, its apparent failing is that it doesn't contain ONLY GOP ideas. This is unacceptable, so they're taking their toys and going home in a huff.

It's too bad, because we could actually do something about this. However, with one party willing to burn down the house rather than share it, we're pretty much doomed.

Posted by: cometboy | February 9, 2010 2:57 PM | Report abuse

The republicans already got the giveaway to big pharma and to the billion dollar health care giants. They won't be satisfied until Obama agrees to put a million dollars in each of their pockets and then they'd complain it wasn't enough.

Posted by: blarsen1 | February 9, 2010 2:55 PM | Report abuse

This is to Shhhhhhhh......
My insurance plan is probably gonna pay for you too!!!As you suck the life out of me!!

Posted by: drestarre | February 9, 2010 2:55 PM | Report abuse

chamaco wrote>>>How many of you would willingly engage in negotiations with someone who is deceitful and dishonest,but wants to set the rules of the engagement?

Exactly! Republicans are only interested in "our way or the highway."
Obama & Dems should do reconciliation and forget about Republicans since they've OPPOSED health care reform for 60 years.

BUT - the Bush administration EAGERLY INCLUDED "national health care" in the Iraq Constitution.

Health care for Iraqis - but NOT for Americans.

Posted by: angie12106 | February 9, 2010 2:49 PM | Report abuse

How's that government cheese tasting? Unions and ACORN are corrupt organizations feeding off of the ignorant and entitlement crowds, but you knew that, eh dork? And why no Tort-Reform? LMAO!!

VOTE DEMOCRAT, IT'S EASIER THAN WORKING

"A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO, THIS GUY WOULD BE SERVING US COFFEE"-Bill Clinton, the democRATS 1st "black" president.

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Cshootta, you know damn well Acorn and the Unions are NOT the only ones that are corrupt and feeding off the gov't trough. What about all of those Corporate Lobbyist that have a revolving door in and out of Congress.

And please don't you dare sit there and try to tell me that there their AIN'T (that's my Texan coming out) one single white person who has not benefited from Acorn or a Union. Stop trying to make this issue about black folks, I know that's what you trying to do, girl and I am not going there with you today.

Btw, I love cheese. I just went up to Wegman's before it starts to snow. They have this really great cheese department with all kinds of cheeses.

But you know, I was just thinking. If I had to eat some of that GOV'T CHEEESEE to feed myself and my family, shuckins' girl I would be the first one in line.

Posted by: lcarter0311 | February 9, 2010 2:49 PM | Report abuse

Oh, please do skip the summit. Make lots of partisan demands, call Obama names, get General McCain to jump up and down a bit like Rumplestillskin. Please Please. It is so entertaining. And so revealing. This is an election year. The out party wants things to get much worse for the American people. A whole lot more suffering. That they figure will help them this November. And it probably will in the short term.

Posted by: tarryh | February 9, 2010 2:49 PM | Report abuse

Oh, please do skip the summit. Make lots of partisan demands, call Obama names, get General McCain to jump up and down a bit like Rumplestillskin. Please Please. It is so entertaining. And so revealing. This is an election year. The out party wants things to get much worse for the American people. A whole lot more suffering. That they figure will help them this November. And it probably will in the short term.

Posted by: tarryh | February 9, 2010 2:49 PM | Report abuse

President Obama said today he will consider any Republican health care ideas, as long as they address the goals contained in the Democratic plans already passed by the House and Senate."

Uh-huh. So dems will talk about any idea as long as it is theirs.

Well -- that seems fair. (just kidding)

Don't bite Republicans -- the bait is not alive -- it's made of rubber

Posted by: jimbob3 | February 9, 2010 2:48 PM | Report abuse

President Obama should start his Health Care Summit with a slice of humble pie, and most importantly, a large side dish of sincerity. Only then will he have a chance at getting his dessert. If he is not willing to go through the process in incremental steps, he will surely fail. Another step the president could take to encourage cooperation and trust would be to advise the White House press secretary, Robert Gibbs to stop telling lies like ‘Obama has sought Republican input since early last year.’ President Obama seems to have a deaf ear when it comes to what the American people want concerning Health Care or Energy. Speaking as a member of the National Tea Party, let me assure you, his continued obstinacy will only strengthen the Tea Party movement.

The Republicans selected to attend should not allow themselves to be set up. The chances of passing a Health Care bill are slim and I fear the president is looking for a political win by blaming them for the failure to pass a Health Care bill. I doubt the president is willing to give up that which the radical progressive liberals in Congress want in the bill. He has lost the Independents who supported him and he is not going to be willing to lose his base. If the president really thought he could get a bill passed without their support he would not be asking to have a summit with them in the first place.

Posted by: takebackamerica1 | February 9, 2010 2:47 PM | Report abuse

If we, the base of the democratic party, wanted a republican Health Care system we would vote for the GOP...Since Obama has surrended our rigthts to the Insurance and Financial Sector, we might just as well vote for the GOP this coming fall.
It's bad enough Slick Willie Clinton sold us out with Nafta, Globalization, The New World Order, that we the base of the Democratic party have had it. Where are the progressives and Move-on, are they with us or against us?

Posted by: umt123 | February 9, 2010 2:45 PM | Report abuse

By hartman_john's reasoning Obama should have ended the war, cleared up the economy, created jobs for us all - ended all poverty, ended all educational questions, all immigration issues, etc. etc. etc. because it somehow is just a fact (to him) that bills passed equate to something truly "right" for the people occuring.

Any bill - ANY BILL AT ALL. As long as you attach some good campaign "promise" to it.

Right?

So if the dems promote the worst of worst it can't be wrong - because the IDEATION of the title of the bill is soooooo very President Johnson or best of the best kum yah President Kennedy, never mind any of what is actually contained within it?

Good Lord. Hartman - you didn't even bother to vet out Obama before you listened to him speak and voted for him - right? Right.

Posted by: eastcomom | February 9, 2010 2:43 PM | Report abuse

We can always count on Republicans to provide HALF the Truth provided by Limbaugh and Fox News - not the Whole Truth.


>>>>The Congressional Budget Office said last year that federal tort reform would save the federal budget $54 billion over ten years. BUT ON PAGE 4 of the same analysis, the CBO admitted that because so many states already have "reformed" tort, "a significant fraction of the potential cost savings has already been realized.” On pages 2 and 3, it admits that reducing the cost of medical malpractice liability by 10 percent would reduce total national health care expenditures by a whopping 0.2 percent.

http://seminal.firedoglake.com/diary/28722

Posted by: angie12106 | February 9, 2010 2:43 PM | Report abuse

TURKEYS!!!


Posted by: observator1000 | February 9, 2010 2:42 PM | Report abuse

How many of you would willingly engage in negotiations with someone who is deceitful and dishonest,but wants to set the rules of the engagement?

If Obama genuinely wanted to make progress, he would agree to start from scratch and develop a true bi-partisan bill that leaders from both parties, and citizens, could get behind.

Instead he tries baiting the opposition party into false negotiations with a starting point that is already skewed way to the left.

His transparency incriminates him.

Posted by: Chamaco | February 9, 2010 2:41 PM | Report abuse

If know the Democrats were to lay out that Bill in front of American; especially, the Tea Party folks, Right-Wingers, and even some Liberal Democrats, they wouldn't if half the entitlements were good for the country or not, because half of these folks can't read... let alone a Congressional Bill.

The bottom line is there are really some good things in the Bill as it stands right now. It might not be everything that the Dems want. We already know the Repugs don't want %hi% so leave them out.

Anyway, there are some good things in it that were not there before, which will help to start driving costs and also begin fixing the health care systems.

Btw, did I tell any of you that I work on HC systems for hospitals. Well, let me tell you this. They're all F'ED up.

All of the HC systems that are developed by several HC Software vendors in this country are F'ED up. That in itself is one of the biggest problem that we have in this country.

I hate to use such language, but it's the honest truth.

Posted by: lcarter0311 | February 9, 2010 2:40 PM | Report abuse

THE GOP ARE COWARDS.


Posted by: A-Voter

Only COWARDS whine about giving US rights to terrorists. OUCH!!

Posted by: cschotta1 | February 9, 2010 2:39 PM | Report abuse

There's no question that, had Obumbler's Health Care Bill been in force, the Hon. John Murtha WOULD STILL BE ALIVE today.

Had the rotten Congressman had Obamacare, the DEATH PANELS would have COME TO HIS RESCUE and convinced him that their decision to DENY a gall bladder operation was in his best interest.

The DP's would have explained that their decision was based upon STATISTICS and COST and really wasn't personal, but, SOCIAL and so, he should be GRATEFUL for a few more days of LIFE that he will STATISTICALLY enjoy thanks to their OVERSIGHT.

SEMPER FI, MARINE.

Posted by: mipost1 | February 9, 2010 2:38 PM | Report abuse

Give me a F'ING break.

There were so many other good things in the Bill, i.e., Public Option, Exchanges across state lines, etc., until the Repugs started Screaming and Hollering like a bunch of sissies.

I believe that the exchanges across state lines is still in the bill, but you get my point... Cshooota. Don't you?

Anywho's Cshoota, why are you Tea Party people and White Supremacist folks always feel a need to slight the Union and Acorn folks?

Please explain, if you can, using your right-wing thinking.

Posted by: lcarter0311

How's that government cheese tasting? Unions and ACORN are corrupt organizations feeding off of the ignorant and entitlement crowds, but you knew that, eh dork? And why no Tort-Reform? LMAO!!

VOTE DEMOCRAT, IT'S EASIER THAN WORKING

"A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO, THIS GUY WOULD BE SERVING US COFFEE"-Bill Clinton, the democRATS 1st "black" president.

Posted by: cschotta1 | February 9, 2010 2:37 PM | Report abuse

When LBJ wanted Medicare and Civil Rights legislation, he told the Congress to jam it through regardless of the opposition.
When FDR wanted Social Security, he told Congress to jam it through regardless of the opposition.

When will the current Democrats learn that doing something is far better than being seen as feckless wimps. Tell the GOP to sit on it and spin. Time's up for bi-partisanship. It is nut-cuttin' time and so get to it.

Posted by: hartman_john
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That is why they are scared... they know that come Nov that it will be more than their nuts on the chopping block... WHACK!!!

Posted by: TexanbygraceofGOD | February 9, 2010 2:36 PM | Report abuse

if the bill was so good then why did the democratic leaders have to buy votes.

face it the bill stinks.

with a super majority which the dems held until browns election there should have been little trouble for the dems to pass that job killing tax incrteasing government expanding bill.

there is one and only one party to blame for the bill not already being law..The dems themselves.

Posted by: dreadstalker | February 9, 2010 2:36 PM | Report abuse

When LBJ wanted Medicare and Civil Rights legislation, he told the Congress to jam it through regardless of the opposition.
When FDR wanted Social Security, he told Congress to jam it through regardless of the opposition.

When will the current Democrats learn that doing something is far better than being seen as feckless wimps. Tell the GOP to sit on it and spin. Time's up for bi-partisanship. It is nut-cuttin' time and so get to it.

Posted by: hartman_john | February 9, 2010 2:33 PM | Report abuse

The party of no strikes again. Truly, these republican are reprehensible. They care about one thing -- and it ain't this country. It's doing everything they can to make Obama look bad. That's it. That's their whole "leadership" agenda.

They're liars and they're hypocrites. All you need to know is in today's Washington Times story exposing yet again their bald-faced hypocrisy:

Sen. Christopher S. Bond regularly railed against President Obama's economic stimulus plan as irresponsible spending that would drive up the national debt. But behind the scenes, the Missouri Republican quietly sought more than $50 million from a federal agency for two projects in his state.

Mr. Bond was not alone. More than a dozen Republican lawmakers, while denouncing the stimulus to the media and their constituents, privately sent letters to just one of the federal government's many agencies seeking stimulus money for home-state pork projects.

The letters to the U.S. Department of Agriculture (USDA), obtained through the Freedom of Information Act, expose the gulf between lawmakers' public criticism of the overall stimulus package and their private lobbying for projects close to home.

"It's not illegal to talk out of both sides of your mouth, but it does seem to be a level of dishonesty troubling to the American public," said Melanie Sloan, executive director of the watchdog group Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington.

Posted by: monk4hall | February 9, 2010 2:32 PM | Report abuse

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Posted by: A-Voter | February 9, 2010 2:31 PM | Report abuse

The American people have repeatably made it clear THEY DO NOT WANT THESE HONORIFIC BILLS ENACTED....Such an approach will, I believe, succeed with substantial support from ALL Americans, except the d-crat socialists, who DO NOT WANT REAL REFORM, they want ONLY NATIONALIZATION of the American healthcare industry and full federal government control of YOUR healthcare.

Posted by: TeaPartyPatriot |
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Sigh...... And they wonder why the rest of the rational universe thinks they're all idiots.....

Posted by: abqcleve | February 9, 2010 2:31 PM | Report abuse

Unbelievable. Or I guess not so. Seriously. Do these republicans care about this country -- or, as Obama aptly put it -- winning a cage match.

Why are these people even IN washington? Anyone can just say no to everything. Leadership? Hello?

Posted by: monk4hall
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You are kidding, right??? Just stick your head back in the sand and be careful not to knock over your Obama shrine!

Posted by: TexanbygraceofGOD | February 9, 2010 2:30 PM | Report abuse

The bill was NOT bad until the RETHUGS started making threats, demands, and throwing temper-tantrums like a bunch of sissies.

Posted by: lcarter0311

NO Princess, the bill was bad when democRATS started making backdoor bribes and sweet deals with the unions. Guess you forgot, eh?

Posted by: cschotta1

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Give me a F'ING break.

There were so many other good things in the Bill, i.e., Public Option, Exchanges across state lines, etc., until the Repugs started Screaming and Hollering like a bunch of sissies.

I believe that the exchanges across state lines is still in the bill, but you get my point... Cshooota. Don't you?

Anywho's Cshoota, why are you Tea Party people and White Supremacist folks always feel a need to slight the Union and Acorn folks?

Please explain, if you can, using your right-wing thinking.

Posted by: lcarter0311 | February 9, 2010 2:30 PM | Report abuse

Amazing ---- that so many "retards" don't understand that the GOP and Blue Dog Dems don't want to do ANYTHING for the people. The Blue Dogs just want to keep getting their big donations from Pharmaceutical and Health Insurance Corporations, and EVEN MORE despicable, the GOP ONLY WANTS TO block anything and everything that Obama and progressives pose - - - simply to bring this administration down.
The GOP yells "socialism" and "taxes", their standard idiotic but successful pith words.
They never suggest shutting down TRUE socialist programs, like the VA Benefits, Public Schools, Public Libraries, etc. BECAUSE the know that their supporters, like Palin, are BASICALLY IGNORANT!

Posted by: lufrank1 | February 9, 2010 2:28 PM | Report abuse

Obama and the Democrats do the nation a disservice by trying to include the Republicans in ANY decision, especially HCR. Over the past year, they have proven time after time that they are not interested in contributing to the well being of America, only in frantically trying to stop the President from accomplishing anything. Dems should proceed without the republicans. They only represent a small percentage of Americans(less then 20%) and are now irrelevant. Stop asking for their views. Ignore them. Work around them. Stop the insanity of believing the fairy tale that they can be worked with. Their views have been refuted by the people, move on without them. They are not needed.

Posted by: dboz1970 | February 9, 2010 2:28 PM | Report abuse

President Obama: Use some of that $787 Billion from a year ago to keep Commercial Real Estate from FORECLOSING SMALL BUSINESSES NOW; & preventa a bonafide 1930's type DEPRESSION!

Posted by: MSFT-PELOSI | February 9, 2010 2:27 PM | Report abuse

Unbelievable. Or I guess not so. Seriously. Do these republicans care about this country -- or, as Obama aptly put it -- winning a cage match.

Why are these people even IN washington? Anyone can just say no to everything. Leadership? Hello?

Posted by: monk4hall | February 9, 2010 2:27 PM | Report abuse

Not bipartisan. Not cost prudent or cost effective or cost anything. Just rammed through and who the heck knows how it MIGHT be paid. But then who the heck has been included in any of it. It's embarassingly bad. ALL OF IT.

And now that Rahm Emmanuel senses the imminent demise for it all - and Emmanuel cannot ethically blame Reid and Pelosi for this piece of garbage somehow instead it is Barack Obama who must "intellectually" suggest meeting with Repubs in a summit BEHIND closed doors to somehow remove the stink of it all?

Or would that be - not too transparently Mr. President - that Obama just HOPES he can displace all of it onto the Republicans if they agree to one singular meeting on this topic?

Come on. It's dead Mr. Emmanuel and President Obama. And that ain't the fault of the disincluded, disinvited, unrepresented Republican party. But then - next time around why don't you invite them in. Start this all over. DO THE RIGHT THING.

Hate mongering dems - they don't CARE about it anyway. Only wanted a "win"... What kind of "leadership" of us all is that.

Posted by: eastcomom | February 9, 2010 2:23 PM | Report abuse

The Republicans are doing exactly what they were elected to do... STOP THE LIBERAL FREIGHT TRAIN OF DOOM by any and all MEANS!!!

At least they are listening to the voters which is the opposite of what the dumbocrats are doing!

Posted by: TexanbygraceofGOD | February 9, 2010 2:23 PM | Report abuse

lcarter

You're right. I apologize. I should have realized that the reporters deserve not to be collectively recognized with the single word of terse disrespect I used in my post, "Press".

In future I'll be diligent to refer to them as the 'White House Press Corpse'.

Thanks.

Posted by: mipost1 | February 9, 2010 2:20 PM | Report abuse

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As long as you are making an effort to try to do better, then it's OK with me.

Posted by: lcarter0311 | February 9, 2010 2:23 PM | Report abuse

45,000 people die each year due to no health care.


Posted by: blarsen1

Prove it!!

Posted by: cschotta1 | February 9, 2010 2:21 PM | Report abuse

The Republican strategy of no is working. Obama appears to be drawn to Republican programs like a moth to a flame. He wants to combine an annuity with 401ks with forced enrollment, instantly making a few insurance companies too important to fail, forever promising taxpayer bailouts and eventual conversion of Social Security into private hands. With forced purchase of health insurance, we create an additional few insurance companies that are too important to fail. There will be health care consolidation to counter the force of insurance companies, thereby making a few health care providers too important to fail. Medicare will be converted to forced insurance enrollment. Essentially all will become a conglomerate of protected businesses, a Republican dream and all the Republicans need to say is no. If the monopolies become too expensive, or leverage themselves into failure, the Republicans can point at the Democrats.

Why he is so enamored with too big to fail is odd, it cost us plenty with the banks. It's possible the Regulators have decided that a few companies will be easier to manage. Many businesses use this concept as a sole source provider model. The concept does not produce savings nor are time lines met nor are the services better. When the marriage goes wrong, as it usually does, there is no divorce or a very expensive one.

Like many CEOs, the President and Congress don't know how to keep a balanced budget or govern so they outsource. America can not be governed. It is too complex. The only thing Congress is capable of are writing earmarks.

Posted by: Beacon2 | February 9, 2010 2:21 PM | Report abuse

lcarter

You're right. I apologize. I should have realized that the reporters deserve not to be collectively recognized with the single word of terse disrespect I used in my post, "Press".

In future I'll be diligent to refer to them as the 'White House Press Corpse'.

Thanks.

Posted by: mipost1 | February 9, 2010 2:20 PM | Report abuse

if the bill was so good then why did the democratic leaders have to buy votes.

face it the bill stinks.

with a super majority which the dems held until browns election there should have been little trouble for the dems to pass that job killing tax incrteasing government expanding bill.

there is one and only one party to blame for the bill not already being law..The dems themselves.

Posted by: dreadstalker | February 9, 2010 2:20 PM | Report abuse

I have never seen such hatred spewed out than by many Democrats on this issue. I know you mostly want something for free, IT'S NOT GONNA BE FREE!!!!!! We will all pay for it and the healthcare will be inferior, rationed and grandpa and grandma's lifespan will be cut short. What is wrong with you all, can't you see the writing on the wall. Congress will sit back with their cushy healthcare and so will unions, while the rest of us will suffer. You think we are suffering now, wait till Obamacare!!!

Posted by: drestarre

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We don't want FREE!!!!!!!

We just don't want Private Insurance raising our individual and employee rates by 39%, 40%, 50%, 60%.

You think you are not suffering now, but that's were we are all headed, while Congress and Unions sit back with their cushy health care.

You just wait and see what I tell you, if some kind of Obamacare does NOT not pass!!!

Posted by: lcarter0311 | February 9, 2010 2:17 PM | Report abuse

The bill was NOT bad until the RETHUGS started making threats, demands, and throwing temper-tantrums like a bunch of sissies.

Posted by: lcarter0311

NO Princess, the bill was bad when democRATS started making backdoor bribes and sweet deals with the unions. Guess you forgot, eh?

Posted by: cschotta1 | February 9, 2010 2:17 PM | Report abuse

Obama,Pelosi,Reid......a three ring circus of turd merchants.

Posted by: affirmativeactionpresident | February 9, 2010 2:16 PM | Report abuse

45,000 people die each year due to no health care.

If terrorists were killing 45,000 Americans a year, you can bet the republicans would do something.

They are the "Do Nothing Republicans" just as they were dubbed by FDR.

Posted by: blarsen1 | February 9, 2010 2:15 PM | Report abuse

I knew it. After President Obama proposed the health care summit, I wrote that he is calling the Republican's bluff.
Thank you GOP for proving me right. The Republicans in Congress have no ideas and prefer complaining about any proposed health care reform bills than offering their own. Congressional Republicans care little about fixing this broken-down health care system that is in dire need of reform. A system that is bankrupting Americans, increasing the numbers of the uninsured, and is causing companies to reduce or eliminate coverage for their workers.
By continuing to bluff, I'm convinced that Congressional Republicans only care about reelection efforts in November.

Posted by: ross19 | February 9, 2010 2:13 PM | Report abuse

it's not being obstructionist to oppose a bad bill.

If the starting point of the debate is the current health care bills as proposed by the dem house and the dem senate ( which has already been rejected by the american people, remember MA? ) then Obamas claims of reaching out for bipartisanship is just words. Not surprising.
He talks the talk but can't walk the walk.

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The bill was NOT bad until the RETHUGS started making threats, demands, and throwing temper-tantrums like a bunch of sissies. Then they started lying, denying and obstructing.

You know that better than I do. So, why would you post a comment on this article that is absolutely and clearly untrue.

Oh, by the way, I am an American living in VA.

Posted by: lcarter0311 | February 9, 2010 2:12 PM | Report abuse

I have never seen such hatred spewed out than by many Democrats on this issue. I know you mostly want something for free, IT'S NOT GONNA BE FREE!!!!!! We will all pay for it and the healthcare will be inferior, rationed and grandpa and grandma's lifespan will be cut short. What is wrong with you all, can't you see the writing on the wall. Congress will sit back with their cushy healthcare and so will unions, while the rest of us will suffer. You think we are suffering now, wait till Obamacare!!!

Posted by: drestarre | February 9, 2010 2:10 PM | Report abuse

As a thoroughly disgusted member of the Republican P arty who has endured a year of not having MY opinion in regard to health care reform heard or honored, I absolutely 100 percent stand behind every single Republicans staying out of any discussion - until and if there is a mutual understanding that health care reform as it stand now and as it is worded now - is dead.

If a future exists for this topic it is not to be pursued via President Obama dictated "summits" behind closed doors in the White House. OR BEHIND ANY OTHER CLOSED DOOR IN THIS NATION'S CAPITOL.

Open, transparent. Inclusive. FULLY BROADCAST TO THE PUBLIC. Started completely over. IF at all. If not I have no problem with health care "reform" going away.

Posted by: eastcomom | February 9, 2010 2:08 PM | Report abuse

The Congress controlled by Democrats because we had an election should do a health care bill the old fashioned. Both houses have passed bills and now the bills go to a conference committee, so appoint the conferees and let's get down to business. The conferees, Republicans and Democrats, can decide what will ultimately be in the bill. There is no need for a summit; the conference is the summit! Then let the House and Senate vote on the final product. If 41 Republicans want to vote no on the conference report in the Senate, then so be it. Then when someone cannot afford coverage and dies prematurely his or her family will know who to blame. When a pre-existing condition denies someone coverage, then they will know who to call.

Posted by: Tomhowarth | February 9, 2010 2:07 PM | Report abuse

cousciousmindz,
My head is on straight and my eyesight is almost perfect! Obama has spent more in his one year than Bush spent in 8 yrs...
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Please get a second opinion. Hopefully, your insurance plan will pay for it.

Posted by: shhhhh | February 9, 2010 2:07 PM | Report abuse

You can't have a bipartisan bill when one side (Obama) wants healthcare reform and the other side (Republicans) don't. To get a bipartisan bill passed, both sides must want to participate. The Republicans are a rotten bunch who should have been discarded by the legislative wayside a long time ago, but for the cravenness and ineptitude of the Democrats last year.

Posted by: jaysit | February 9, 2010 2:06 PM | Report abuse

it's not being obstructionist to oppose a bad bill.

If the starting point of the debate is the current health care bills as proposed by the dem house and the dem senate ( which has already been rejected by the american people, remember MA? ) then Obamas claims of reaching out for bipartisanship is just words. Not surprising.
He talks the talk but can't walk the walk.

Posted by: dreadstalker | February 9, 2010 2:05 PM | Report abuse

The GOP is nothing but a bunch of thugs. They only want to bring Obama down. They have no interest in the "America" they state they love or in the citizens -- not to mention the future. While the GOP is undermining everything, other countries are passing us by in innovation, education, and science. Oh, by the way, since the Bush Administration, the middle class is disappearing and there is a bigger discrepancy between the middle class and the more wealthy. But keep hoping the GOP win big in Nov.

Posted by: ohioland | February 9, 2010 2:04 PM | Report abuse

The government will never take care of you better than you can yourself. Most of you exhibit little knowledge of the basics in government. Obama had the majority in the House and Senate and he "failed" to pass a bill that all could agree. The Republicans were locked out. No one wants this massive, expensive, invasive proposed so called health care bill which is not cost reform. The Republican bill keeps government at bay and creates competition. The same insurance plan in Kentucky costs three times more in New Jersey. Obama's bill was written to protect lawyers. We need tort reform.
We do not need this horrible Obama care creating 110 government agencies we all know will be a cesspool of waste and inefficiency.
Republicans should not compromise on a bill that is not worth the trees that died to write it. To compromise in the wrong direction is still going in the wrong direction.
The President no longer has his filibuster proof Senate and that is just the beginning.
It is not the Republicans who are not going to be creamed in the next election. These Democrats may be searching for those phony jobs they created in the Stimulus I.

Posted by: greatgran1 | February 9, 2010 2:04 PM | Report abuse

WAPO is at today's Present-dent's news conference, going on now, and is THRILLED to report on Ostumblers great command of World events and literacy.

For example he displayed a wide range of talents even quoting poetry for the Press....

"Mary had a little a lam bee
Little lam bee
Little lam bee
Mary had a little lam bee
Whose fleece was white as snow"

The reporters knelt with applause.

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It's a shame you are not capable of understanding any intelligent information.

It's even more a shame that you can't communicate intelligently.

So, why don't you run alone and go play with your Xbox or something. Besides, I think I hear your mommy calling you.

Posted by: lcarter0311 | February 9, 2010 2:04 PM | Report abuse

Achieving REAL REFORM of heathcare absolutely, positively, must follow the following steps:

1. BURY the loony-left d-crat socialist heathcare bills from the House and the Senate. The American people have repeatably made it clear THEY DO NOT WANT THESE HONORIFIC BILLS ENACTED.
2. Open all discussions to the American people and stop lying about C-SPAN openness, etc.
3. Abandon the d-crat socialist take-over and focus on real reforms that a majority of American can support, like those discussed in the ONE-PAGE (not 2000+ pages + bribes) "Small Bill" (look it up!)

Such an approach will, I believe, succeed with substantial support from ALL Americans, except the d-crat socialists, who DO NOT WANT REAL REFORM, they want ONLY NATIONALIZATION of the American healthcare industry and full federal government control of YOUR healthcare.

Posted by: TeaPartyPatriot | February 9, 2010 2:03 PM | Report abuse

They are afraid of another debacle like the one last month when Obama made fools of them.

How ironic, since Obama is so much more willing and eager to work with them than he is with liberals.

As a liberal, I despise both repugs AND Obama.

Posted by: solsticebelle | February 9, 2010 2:02 PM | Report abuse

America has unresolved problems and Republicans know it. NO WAY Sarah Palin could lead this Nation. You all know it! It's great that you have a difference of opinion but you lose credibility when you try to pretend that a Prom Queen Quitter understands advanced Physics. That the country would be better off if Todd Palin was calling the shots. Did Levy Johnson lie when he said Sarah referred to her baby albeit affectionately, as the Retard. He was lying? This was before Rhom's comments that she posted on FACEBOOK! We all want our leaders on FACEBOOK! Can't read up on countries but can keep up with FACEBOOK! every day. Look at what the last C student did. Can't you guy's be principled and honest for once or are you so intolerant that reality doesn't matter. As a Democrat I wouldn't care if we lose all seats in the midterm but I'm not gonna sit here and tell you that Taylor Swift would make a Great President. That's just Retarded! Yeah Retarded! Stop the nonsense!

Posted by: minco_007 | February 9, 2010 2:01 PM | Report abuse

Instead they want to pad the pockets of their special interests, while keeping this country's healthcare system accessible only to a few, leaving the rest of us with a Third-World level of available care in an industrialized country.

Posted by: radiantbook | February 9, 2010 1:56 PM | Report

My healthcare coverage is fine, and I pay for it without WHINING about it.

Posted by: cschotta1 | February 9, 2010 2:00 PM | Report abuse

One more thing: AntonioSosa and JCM-51 need to take their medication IMMEDIATELY. You both sound crazier than Glenn Beck and Palin combined.

Posted by: stephenlouis

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Ain't that the damn truth!

Posted by: lcarter0311 | February 9, 2010 2:00 PM | Report abuse

Newsflash: GOP members of Congress DO NOT want to participate in health care legislation. THEY WANT TO DERAIL IT!

Do it without them. Do it now. Do it yourselves.

Posted by: gce1356 | February 9, 2010 2:00 PM | Report abuse

One more thing: AntonioSosa and JCM-51 need to take their medication IMMEDIATELY. You both sound crazier than Glenn Beck and Palin combined.

Posted by: stephenlouis | February 9, 2010 1:58 PM | Report abuse

...."GoooooooooooooooD! "Be sure now you RUN and Vote Republican again, one more thing, "SUFFER...

...."SUFFER...that's what you get for voting Republican!

...As they take a walk while you take a dive into poverty and bankrupsy they go laughing all the way to the bank!

..."Be sure now you RUN and Vote Republican again, they sure do Appreciate it!

..."Appreciate it!

Posted by: ztcb41 | February 9, 2010 1:58 PM | Report abuse

WAPO is at today's Present-dent's news conference, going on now, and is THRILLED to report on Ostumblers great command of World events and literacy.

For example he displayed a wide range of talents even quoting poetry for the Press....

"Mary had a little a lam bee
Little lam bee
Little lam bee
Mary had a little lam bee
Whose fleece was white as snow"

The reporters knelt with applause.

Posted by: mipost1 | February 9, 2010 1:57 PM | Report abuse

I'm shocked I tell you shocked - NOT.

All of the people who didn't think they were going to try to come up with a reason not to participate I have a bridge for sale - real cheap.

Posted by: rlj1 | February 9, 2010 1:57 PM | Report abuse

I swear to God that I hate Republicans who aren't willing to meet the President half way. These "leaders" are cowards!!! Pure and simple COWARDS!!!! He gives them transparency, and making it more accessible to the public - he's giving them the chance to show some redeemable value, but no - NO! Instead they want to pad the pockets of their special interests, while keeping this country's healthcare system accessible only to a few, leaving the rest of us with a Third-World level of available care in an industrialized country. They're only power is to keep us all divided. Only fools fight in a burning house!

Posted by: radiantbook | February 9, 2010 1:56 PM | Report abuse

These guys are terrified - and the terrorists are their own right wing truth squads. They are more fearful of talking to President Obama or Democrats than they are of having an extramarital affair, getting hooked on prescription drugs, or ignoring the poor people who are going bankrupt because they can't get health care. It is a tragedy and if not dealt with in the next elections, does not bode well for our country for the coming generations. Even Presidents Adams and Jefferson were friends by the end. The Republican Right wants to have it their way - or for the entire country - all of us - to fail. How tragic.

Posted by: maggieww | February 9, 2010 1:55 PM | Report abuse

It would be nice if the republicans were as concerned about transparency when they were in power as they are now. Does anyone remember republicans showing any of the attributes that they now demand from Obama while they controlled congress and the white house?
Posted by: ged0386 | February 9, 2010 1:35 PM

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Hell No!

And they call themselves "Patriots".

I guess they forgot what country they are supposed to be rebelling against, or maybe they forgot what country they are supposed to be citizens of.

Posted by: lcarter0311 | February 9, 2010 1:54 PM | Report abuse

cousciousmindz,
My head is on straight and my eyesight is almost perfect! Obama has spent more in his one year than Bush spent in 8 yrs. You need not only your eyesight checked but your hearing too. In actuality Obama will outspend every other president ever if he stays in office for 8 years, which he won't. He has proven he is a one term president. He is inexperiened,and an ego maniac to boot!!!

Posted by: drestarre | February 9, 2010 1:49 PM | Report abuse

The republican plan, Be partisan then call the other guy partisan, Obstruct policy then say look he hasn't accomplished anything. Refuse to participate then whine about not being part of the process. Its like when your brother and his friends messes up the house then refuses to help clean it up and blames you when your parents get home. Thats the republican party in a nutshell.

Posted by: ged0386 | February 9, 2010 1:49 PM | Report abuse

Please lets talk about disgusting
1. Sarah Palin
-Barack Hussein Obama,now that's disgusting.

2.George Bush and illegal war and remeber that stunt on aircraft carrier mission accomplished LOL
-Saddam captured-Mission Accomplished. If the war was illegal, than prove it dumba##!

3.Dick the weasal Cheney and his torture and lies
-Waterboarding those terrorists to prevent future attacks, WHINE WHINE WHINE. Those poor, poor terrorists-what's a lib to do?

3.Rumsy and his lies
You do not have the character to call anything Obama has done disgusting after 8 years of lies deciet illegal wars torture stolen elections etc.and run away unemployment sorry moron that started w/Bushie
-Show me where the election was stolen. Perhaps if Gore had won TN (his home state), eh lib?

Posted by: lildg54


LIBERALS...FIGHTING FOR THE RIGHTS OF TERRORISTS 24/7. JUST WHOSE SIDE ARE THEY ON?

Posted by: cschotta1 | February 9, 2010 1:48 PM | Report abuse

If I have to see Boehner and Cantor sneering their way through another GOP news conference in which they blame the President for their own obstructionism, I think that I shall puke.

Posted by: borntorun45 | February 9, 2010 1:47 PM | Report abuse

The best government is one who teachs the people to govern themselves.

Posted by: ai3di | February 9, 2010 1:43 PM | Report abuse

Obama's White House Briefing 1:30 pm 2/9

What you say sounds great and possible. BUT you have to do what you say and set the example first.

If you don't want others to play "politics" then don't do the same by making deals with the union concessions from paying taxes on cadillac insurance. AND if Blue Shield in California is about to raise premiums by 39% and others will follow suit, THEN WHAT IS YOUR and Democrat's argument against allowing for interstate competition of health insurance companies just car car insurance companies other than lobbyist's pressure?
So if you really mean what you say then do what you say and you will be more influential as a leader...

Posted by: american17 | February 9, 2010 1:43 PM | Report abuse

Come election day liberals, democrats, independents, Latinos and African Americans will remember and vote en force against them.

Posted by: jc_abri

Haven't the democRATS done enough damage to the African American community?

Posted by: cschotta1 | February 9, 2010 1:42 PM | Report abuse

John Cole Nails it:

I know you all won’t do it, but this really is a gimme. Set up the room with a side for the Democrats, including nameplates, one for the Republicans, including nameplates, and hold the summit no matter what. If they come, you can have the summit. If they don’t, then you can have the summit without them, and can use the time (as the camera pans over their empty seats) to promote the positive aspects of the current bill all while discussing the only GOP plan out there- the Paul Ryan bill. I’d suggest panning the room a good bit.

And if the Republicans don’t take a hit in the polls for refusing to show up, and if the media does not rip the Republicans apart, then you all can take out a shovel, beat bipartisanship in the back of the damned head until dead, and bury it in the White house yard, and start acting like you have large majorities.

Posted by: losthorizon10 | February 9, 2010 1:41 PM | Report abuse

The Republicons won't show up because they have no ideas and are not willing to discuss just dictate and that will get no where. They certainly do not want that televised but hey what do you expect from a party who supports and thinks Sarah Palin is good and decent and knows anything duh and to:
The most disgusting thing Obama has done was having a publicity shot of himself taken in front of the flag-draped coffins of our dead troops. Trying to ram this health care crap down our throats runs a distant second.

Posted by: JCM-51 | February 8, 2010 9:27 PM | Report abuse

Please lets talk about disgusting
1. Sarah Palin
2.George Bush and illegal war and remeber that stunt on aircraft carrier mission accomplished LOL
3.Dick the weasal Cheney and his torture and lies
3.Rumsy and his lies
You do not have the character to call anything Obama has done disgusting after 8 years of lies deciet illegal wars torture stolen elections etc.and run away unemployment sorry moron that started w/Bushie

Posted by: lildg54 | February 9, 2010 1:41 PM | Report abuse

Nothing translates to "weenie-ism" as much as a bunch of hypocrites who insist on getting what they want without having to debate the merits of it before people who elected them. The Republican leadership are like the Israelis and Palestinians -- first-class prima donnas who would rather posture and put on a little show rather than actually do anything. They are betting no one will notice. I'm betting people will remember in November.

Posted by: corbinb | February 9, 2010 1:40 PM | Report abuse

Republicans beware, this conference is an ambush to let the Democrats vote on their Healtcare bill through Reconcilation in the Senate.

Posted by: badgerburg | February 9, 2010 1:40 PM | Report abuse

The GOP are a bunch of cowards. All they do is say "NO" and refuse to participate. They don't want the naked light of the cameras to show how baseless and shelfish they are. They are afraid the American people will see them in their true light...stall, stall, stall until after November. They speak out of both sides of their faces. They do agree with the President on many points, but are scared to death of Limbaugh, Hannity and Beck...COWARDS to the end.

Posted by: salexander1 | February 9, 2010 1:38 PM | Report abuse

I find the Republican letter offensive in tone and empty of ideas. "Jamming, cutting deals" etc. They want 72 hours advance notice of any bills to be discussed. They have it... the bills passed in the House and Senate.

My self employed daughter and son-in-law run a bookstore and makes adjusted gross income of less than $30,000 for a family of three. They have health insurance only on the child. I pay for another expensive policy for them with a $5000 deductible. Yesterday I had to pay $200 for one perscription of a asthma spray - not covered.

WE NEED HEALTH REFORM NOW.

Posted by: buddroke1 | February 9, 2010 1:38 PM | Report abuse

Of course the GOP will skip the summit. They don't want health care reform. They are on the side of the rich health care and insurance corporations and their CEOs, the ones who are making billions with things the way they are now.

It is the middle class which is hurting. The GOP don't care about the middle class.

Have you seen the GOP Social Security proposal? Give Social Security to private companies, the kinds of companies which raised premiums 17% this year alone. A few years of that, and seniors will be paying huge unaffordable deductibles while the health insurance companies rake in more billions.

The other GOP idea is the one GW Bush floated--health care accounts. That way the GOP's big banker friends could have looted them just like they looted our retirements.

Unless you are a multi-millionaire, don't trust the GOP.

Posted by: tinyjab40 | February 9, 2010 1:37 PM | Report abuse

Spread the word people. The mark of the beast on your forehead is when you accept the Anti-Christ through blind faith. The mark of the beast on your hand is when you accept the Anti-Christ through gifts. People Obama is the Anti-Christ that you have all read about. You have been warned. The future is not set and can go in two very different directions. Get involved and help stop this massive take over.

Posted by: makom | February 9, 2010 1:36 PM | Report abuse


Half day summit on national television to discuss health care reform does not make sense when it took days to discuss the reform in the senate and congress.

Half day get together will be full with greetings and tea/coffee and idle talk. What can such meeting accomplish?

Posted by: 68b2b | February 9, 2010 1:35 PM | Report abuse

It would be nice if the republicans were as concerned about transparency when they were in power as they are now. Does anyone remember republicans showing any of the attributes that they now demand from Obama while they controlled congress and the white house? I recall them basically ramming legislation through congress and leaving democrats out of the process on a regular basis. I recall late night bills being passed by congress and appointments by then president bush being done while congress was on recess so they did not need to be confirmed. Funny how not having control of government makes you all a stickler for these things.

Posted by: ged0386 | February 9, 2010 1:35 PM | Report abuse

Republican hypocrites- run America like the Mafia for eight years, got tossed out of power, whine about the lack of "bipartisanship," and then take your ball and go home when offered a chance to provide new ideas.

Because the GOP has no ideas that haven't already been proven devastating to the middle class.

Instead, they call names, make up lies and conspiracies, and use fear-mongering on the rubes, so they won't notice that their pockets are getting picked while the Republicans give more tax breaks to their corporate masters, and the wealthy.

As was well said by another poster here: the GOP make the French look like Spartans.

Posted by: losthorizon10 | February 9, 2010 1:35 PM | Report abuse

The GOP believes that by being obstructionist they will gain political momentum and regain the majority in congress. Come election day liberals, democrats, independents, Latinos and African Americans will remember and vote en force against them. Candidate Obama is much better than President Obama. The GOP will yet again know defeat given that this country is no longer the country of white christians ONLY.

Posted by: jc_abril | February 9, 2010 1:34 PM | Report abuse

Leader John A. Boehner and Minority Whip Eric Cantor. Republicans have GOT to be getting fed up with the Whimpy, limping dog, whining approach of their leadership. Arnold, Gov. of Cal. comment comes to mind."GIRLY MEN" If you are sure you are right stand up! How long will the whining continue? The American people can judge for themselves. How can you Tea Baggers continue to defend this position? You all say Obama is an idiot and needs a teleprompter, so here's your chance. He won't be reading notes scribbled in his hand like Palin. You can nail him if you're right, so why the wimpy, whining? MAN UP! JEEZUS! You call yourselves Men? I can't use the appropriate verb but you all know what it is. And it's well deserved for all of you Cowards!

Posted by: minco_007 | February 9, 2010 1:34 PM | Report abuse

Everyone wants better, lower cost health care. I have never heard anyone from any party who doesn't want better, lower cost health care.

People are aware from experience with Medicare, Social Security, Welfare, the U.S. Post Office, the Veterans Administration and every other government run program that it doesn't do what we need and costs much more than we can afford.

Even the government (Senators, Congress and Federal Government employees including Barack Obama and his family) have EXEMPTED themselves from the Obama Health Care Program. That rejection of the National Health Care Program by the writers themselves tells you that it isn't worth a DAMN. Their policy is do as I say but EXEMPT me from doing it myself.

There needs to be a new start to National Health Care. A new National Health Care Program needs to be created that President Barack Obama and his family will be the first to join before any other American Citizens are included into the president's program. Once Barack Obama and his family find it suitable then the rest of the country can join the SAME program. If the National Health Care Program is not good enough for the President and his family, it is not good enough for me.

Posted by: OnlyTheTruth | February 9, 2010 1:34 PM | Report abuse

Hundreds of Republican sponsored amendments ended up in the current bill. Republicans had a direct impact on its formation. Still, that's not enough.

"Bipartisanship" is defined by the Republican leadership is "Given us exactly what we want". There's no real interest in working together except behind the scenes and then yelling about taking their toys and going home if, gasp, the majority actually has a major say in legislation.

Now, they claim they won't go to a summit that's to figure out how to go forward unless we decide to go backwards instead. That's the current state of the Republican Party. Pitiful.

Posted by: groucho42 | February 9, 2010 1:30 PM | Report abuse

thehamptons1

Republicans have created their own reality. Now after 8 years of lies by their own leadership over and over they have trust issues when another party is in power. And calling the president names just because you want an excuse to be partisan is week. Mark my word, all your negative efforts will not win back the white house and if republicans keep this up if will end up costing them the gains they made in resent elections. Obama is challenging republicans to walk the talk and republicans are looking for any excuse to avoid working on this bill. Why scrap a bill and start over when we all know the republicans will reject that version when it comes up. Republicans are just trying to stall any progress by Obama unitl november in hopes that voters will be frustrated at nothing getting done and vote for them. But voters will be frustrated at congress more than Obama. So both sides of congress will lose votes. We will not vote for a party that can only do their jobs if they can govern from a position of total power. Its like republicans got so spoiled to being in power they are willing to hold up any progress the other party tries to make just because they are not in power. If republicans elect to play NO politics for months we should reward them by voting even more of them out in upcoming elections. How arrogant of them to refuse to work with democrats just because they cant control government. Here is their opportunity to let americans know more about there position on health care besides just saying no and they are too afraid to expose themselves to the public. And they will do this throughout Obama's term on every bill he brings out. They wont even allow him to fill his staff. Please tell me how obstructing the president at every turn is helping americans?

Posted by: ged0386 | February 9, 2010 1:30 PM | Report abuse

I love it. Republicans skip out on bipartisan talks, then accuse Obama of not being bipartisan enough.

Next, you'll hear them snickering, "I know you are, but what am I?" or "I'm rubber, you're glue!"

Posted by: JohninMpls | February 9, 2010 1:29 PM | Report abuse

The Senate bill caps pay out on a basic plan at 5000 per single and 10,000 per family. Now that folks is rationing

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That is called containing cost just like you do when you don't have enough money to spend. Again the usual pointless argument without looking at the long term basis.

Posted by: beeker25 | February 9, 2010 1:28 PM | Report abuse

The House Republicans recklessness and Political-first, country’s interest may second or third can’t be clearer than this. Clearly, they are NOT interested in any type of bipartisanship. They are behaving like dictatorship. My way or the highway!

The American people now clearly see through Republican’s intensions. They want gridlock. How can you constructively contribute to Healthcare Reform with ultimatums?

Obama and Democrats should do what the American people elected them to do. Pass a Healthcare. For a lesson of history for all of Tea-baggers, President Reagan was elected for mere 50% in his first term and Present Obama was elected 53% of vote.

Posted by: KaneMan | February 9, 2010 1:28 PM | Report abuse

And people through these responses actually think that SOMEONE is governing.

Congress is responsible for GOVERNING AND LEADING, not figuring out who does and who does not want to play in the sandbox.

I find it disgusting that we pay these people money to sit on their collective behinds to bash each other instead of working on PROGRESS for the country.

Both groups are disgusting and we should find a way to withhold all pay and benefits for CONGRESS until it gets to work on this screwed up country. Our government is functioning worse than those in the MIDDLE EAST that we TRIED to set up.

Posted by: kare1 | February 9, 2010 1:28 PM | Report abuse

Was there any doubt these GOP henchemen were going to be obstructionists? Was there any doubt that the GOP's blind, brainless sheep that post comments here would envoke the ravenous fear of communism? Was there any doubt that they would describe the president as Fascist (even though he has not been able to pass his own legislation let alone a full blown doctrine)? Note to thyselves republicans, you have ABSOLUTELY no idea of what communism is, you have never experienced it and never will. This country will never become communist. Stop being irraitonal and add to the reconstruction of our ruined country that your party was responsible for.

Posted by: jc_abril | February 9, 2010 1:27 PM | Report abuse

Of course the Republicans aren't going to participate. They would be exposed as the charlatans they are when they couldn't contribute anything of value. They've got nothing to offer but "No."

Posted by: Lefty_ | February 9, 2010 1:26 PM | Report abuse


Second, we should have all learned by now that Obama's words mean nothing and he can't be trusted. He hasn't kept any campaign promises that I'm aware of, such as transparency, no earmarks, no lobbyists on the WH payroll etc. etc. and no bipartisansip as promised.

Posted by: thehamptons1 | February 9, 2010 1:15 PM | Report abuse
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You can look it up, he has either finish or started more than half of what he has promised and continues to finish and start more. Of course, what he has promised is not easy, and he can't do most of it himself. Do you think he can just come into office and poof, everything changes with no debate or stonewalling? Do you think he can force bipartisanship when they don't want to work together? Can you put to children in a room that hate each other and get them to play nice and agree with each other? Not that easy.
I guess though, you are a beter person, with more skills, and intelligence than any of them though. I can't seem to put my finger around why there are so many like you, and none of you put yourselves in the spotlight and run for government positions?

Posted by: ai3di | February 9, 2010 1:25 PM | Report abuse

No, this President has done very little of his promises to better our country. Instead he has thrown us into a path of DEBT that will take us years of hard effort to recoup.

Posted by: Hispana
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You forgot the years when the Republicans in Congress and GWB ran up the deficit to 4.8T in the 8 eights years in office and yet Reps party acted with all phony outrage by blamming others other than themselves for the mess by using political crap (samething that was done while Clinton was in office) Do you see the resemblance? I don't think so because it looks like you are getting your talking points from FOX News.

Right to your point of President has done little is simply because of several things:
1. Needing 60 votes in the Senate to get anything done (using the cloture rule frequently)
2. Grandstanding without actually doing anything but to blame others.(in short: act like a 5 years old who wants things done his way or he or she will throw a temper tantrum)

Real leadership involves tackling problems head-on rather than pivoting to political points.

Posted by: beeker25 | February 9, 2010 1:25 PM | Report abuse

Forget the decrepit, corrupt, brain-dead party of Mitch McConnell, Sarah Palin and bush. No, I correct myself. Don't forget the party or its scoundrels and pseudo-patriot blowhards.
We must always watch this party and its agents like a hawk. They sing about the red, white and blue, but they're only truly interested in green. It's all about the bottom line with the party of No, party of greed, party of callous indifference to the plight of most Americans.

Posted by: jimsteinberg1


This is your brain on liberalism. How pathetic and sad!

LIBERALISM...A TRUE MENTAL DISORDER!!

Posted by: cschotta1 | February 9, 2010 12:57 PM | Report abuse
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Okay. You say "This is your brain on liberalism. How pathetic and sad!

LIBERALISM...A TRUE MENTAL DISORDER!!"

Now how about backing up why you think that way with facts and reason, and not hate and namecalling.

Posted by: ai3di

The military votes over 70% GOP, so spare me the Red, White and Blue BS! If you want to talk about "greed", how about the man made global warming BS, which was nothing more than an attempt to make a few elitists more rich (Algore), while also growing the federal government-wow, imagine that, the democRATS trying to grow the federal government, how original! Palin has never passed a bill or sponsored one-OUCH!!
The party of NO-sounds like you libs are running out of plays from the liberal playbook!

VOTE DEMOCRAT-IT'S EASIER THAN WORKING!

Posted by: cschotta1 | February 9, 2010 1:23 PM | Report abuse

What should happen in November is that Republicans on Capitol Hill should start packing. The President is clearly responding to the inability of legislators of both parties to work together by holding a summit that he hopes will get things moving. It's unfortunate that this has become necessary, particularly when so many Americans recognize the need for health care reform.

Posted by: jlhare1 | February 9, 2010 1:22 PM | Report abuse

...."GOOOOOOOOOOOOD! Let the fools that voted Republican see they used them all alone and had no intention to work to pass Health Care Reform, and the American's who put the/fools/REpublicans in office to help them reach #41 can go to hell! The Democrats need to shut Republicans out of the process, as well as the minority/Republicans who has RUINED AMERICA but good and what do the fools do, run and vote REpublican again! Fools, voting for fools who left America in a MESS lost eight and a half million jobs, left America a record debt/deficit of $1.5 TRILLION and left office with the lowest job approval rating in the history of the United States Presidency, 20% these facts still don't matter in America as fools still voting Republican!

...."GOOOOOOOOOOOOD! I say to my fellow Democrats, "BOOT Republicans out of our Party, get rid of traitors/like Lieberman, sell out to the tune of a Million dollars from the Insurance Companies, as well as Nelson, and other REpublicans in our midst!

In conclusion, Republicans fooled you but goooooooooooooood America, lied to you but GOOOOOOD America, and thanks to you have now got the votes needed to stop any change America voted for including passing Health Care for 32 Million American's who are without it, as the REpublicans go laughing all the way to the Bank, American's continue to die daily from a lack of Health Care Insurance, thanks to the REpublicans who have done all they can to kill it, and have killed it, alone with a lot of American's who never got the help they voted for, or the change they change voted for, and thanks to America voting Republican in Mass will not get what they voted for, Appreciate it, be sure now you run and vote Republican again, WOw have they ruined YOU but GOOOOOOOD AMERICA!

..."Appreciate it, be sure now you RUN and Vote Republican again, wow, have they LIED TO YOU BUT GOOD AND YOU FELL FOR THEM LOL....fools, voteing right against themselves, as REpublicans laugh all the way to the Bank, and leave you/America in a Mess that has left the United States in ruins....

...."APPRECIATE IT!

...Wow America have the REpublicans ruined you but goooood, and you keep putting them back in so I say to you...

...."SUFFER.....SUFFER!!!

Posted by: ztcb41 | February 9, 2010 1:21 PM | Report abuse

In the issue of health care reform the republicans are accused of doing nothing.

However, in this case doing nothing is doing SOMETHING. It's seeing to it that a bill is not passed that the majority of Americans have resoundingly rejected.

Posted by: thehamptons1 | February 9, 2010 1:21 PM | Report abuse

I would be willing to say that most of you posting have never read this bill Obama and his cronies are pushing. The Senate bill caps pay out on a basic plan at 5000 per single and 10,000 per family. Now that folks is rationing. You can visit your local hospital two days and max out. Gee hope your family stays well. Then if you have a decent plan, you will pay a fine unless you are a union member with a cadillac plan which we all will pay for. Then all the misfits and illegals will be pushed onto the state in medicaid and guess who will pay for them unless you are in Louisiana and Nebraska which we will pay for you. Then if you are a retired community organizer or retired union member we will pay for your health care. We will have higher taxes. We will be required to buy this pathetic plan even if you do not want to buy it. The government will be able to reach in your personal accounts and take out what "they" think you owe. Your personal records will be in a national data base for any moron to see whenever they so choose. They will set up committees that will decide what procedures "they" will pay for and if you use them then you will pay a tax. They will take 500 billion of waste that they have never taken out before knowing it was there in medicare and knowing all these baby boomers will be rushing into this program that politicians have been stealing from for years while knowing you will face rationing of care in hospitals and with doctors since doctors are dropping medicare patients as we speak due to cuts in fees and the immense paperwork. And the dirty little secret is there will be age cut off dates as in England. In England if you are over 65 you do not quality for dialysis unless you can pay for it yourself. Hummm.......
Oh I could go on but why? This pathetic maize of government waste could be yours if you buy the Obama lie.
Well our family deserves better and you do too even if your too stupid to know it.

Posted by: greatgran1 | February 9, 2010 1:19 PM | Report abuse

Now that the Republicans have their 41% majority, which, hell, is nearly three times the 15% majority held by the Nazi party long ago, why shouldn't they just run things the way they want?

Posted by: dane1 | February 9, 2010 1:18 PM | Report abuse

Forget the decrepit, corrupt, brain-dead party of Mitch McConnell, Sarah Palin and bush. No, I correct myself. Don't forget the party or its scoundrels and pseudo-patriot blowhards.
We must always watch this party and its agents like a hawk. They sing about the red, white and blue, but they're only truly interested in green. It's all about the bottom line with the party of No, party of greed, party of callous indifference to the plight of most Americans.

Posted by: jimsteinberg1


This is your brain on liberalism. How pathetic and sad!

LIBERALISM...A TRUE MENTAL DISORDER!!

Posted by: cschotta1 | February 9, 2010 12:57 PM | Report abuse
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Okay. You say "This is your brain on liberalism. How pathetic and sad!

LIBERALISM...A TRUE MENTAL DISORDER!!"

Now how about backing up why you think that way with facts and reason, and not hate and namecalling.

Posted by: ai3di | February 9, 2010 1:18 PM | Report abuse

I did not read the entire article - the lead says it all..Their seats in the Senate and the House are more important to them than any issue.

Posted by: annfried07 | February 9, 2010 1:16 PM | Report abuse

On the issue of drugs and health care the Republicans are the bought and paid for party. Helping to constuctively address the the high cost to the public, could cost them future campaign funds.
walsto

Posted by: walsto | February 9, 2010 1:15 PM | Report abuse

If this is not a start over deal I will be very disappointed if the republicans participate. Two things come to mind.

First, the American people have made it clear they don't want the house and senate bills. The democrats should have to go down that road again all alone.

Second, we should have all learned by now that Obama's words mean nothing and he can't be trusted. He hasn't kept any campaign promises that I'm aware of, such as transparency, no earmarks, no lobbyists on the WH payroll etc. etc. and no bipartisansip as promised.

Promises, lies, deception and bribery are all OK in his book, as long as he fulfills his agenda to transform America. Remember, Obama and many of those around him espouse Saul Alinski's proposition that the end always justify the MEANS. Lie and bribe to get your way.

Posted by: thehamptons1 | February 9, 2010 1:15 PM | Report abuse

Funny, but all the pro-repugnicans in these comments use the same arguments and buzzwords: socialist, government-takeover, Alinsky, marxist, empty suit, liar, the-bill's-too-long-for-my-tiny-brain, etc., etc.

Sounds like they're all getting their talking points from one place... I wonder where?

Posted by: stephenlouis


Air America? Ooops, I forgot, they went bankrupt, which is typical of liberal ideas.

Posted by: cschotta1 | February 9, 2010 1:14 PM | Report abuse

@Hispana

You speak of what Obama promises he hasn't kept. Can we ask you to go pull up his promises and see HOW MANY he has kept!

You must don't read much because you are talking like a rookie, dumb...

We are waiting for you to post some FACTS since you said he hasn't kept his promises. You probably don't even know what his promises were...lol..

We will be waiting Hispana. FACTS ONLY!!!!
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I can go on an on, but I don't want to be redundant, you yourself know them.

1)How about presiding this country from the center in which he so campaigned for and took a radical turn to the left on his doings?

2)How about being a UNITER and establish bypartisanship when his doings or lack of has done more to harm this country than any other President?

3)How about transparency in his administration when everything that he has done is to do deals in closed doors and favoring special interests, lobbysts, Unions and the likes?

4)How about bringing CHANGE certainly, but one that takes this country totally away from its roots and values whereby individual effort and competition are totally anihilated fostering the creation of a society that is dependent on others?

5)How about securing our country when he embarks on a tour of apologizing to others instead of continuing our principles of greatness? How about weakening our defenses when he doesn't know how to handle the enemies that are at war with us?

And I could go on..........

No, this President has done very little of his promises to better our country. Instead he has thrown us into a path of DEBT that will take us years of hard effort to recoup.

Open those eyes and see what is clearly written on the wall!!!

Hope it helps!

Posted by: Hispana | February 9, 2010 1:13 PM | Report abuse

The funny thing about Boehner's letter: Just the opposite has occurred: a majority of Americans oppose the House and Senate health care bills and want them scrapped so we can start over with a step-by-step approach focused on lowering costs for families and small businesses.

That's patently false because it was drummed up by those who opposed it and resorted to falseholds, distortion to justify it and relying on commentary of others to make judgment. For example "Death panel" comment emnating from so the called Palin FB writer (really Rebecca A. Mansour), twisting sections of the laws into a preconceived notion of somthing that was never going to happen.

Starting over requires going through many of the players that the current process went through and those oppose it knows it!
The Senate bill in major part is similar to the MA health plan with the medical cost in downward curve whereas the MA has no provision for it and people are complaining about the out of control spending and this is coming from the insurance companies that operates in the state. There were Republicans working on compromise but the leadership made it clear they don't WANT their side to be working on it (ex. Grassley went from working on it to opposing it simply because McConnell prevailed upon him to not to do so). Where's Scott Brown on his working to fix the legislation? I have to yet hear from the ex-nterfold model who is all air and nothing else in between.

I have read the Republican plan and found it to be underwhelming because it still retains the insurance companies' ability to raise the premium, drop people from the roll if they get sick, the use of recission so they don't have pay the claims and there's no provisions that will try to contain the cost over the long term.

Already the recent news about the cost of health care spending went up 17% to $2.5T only portents to a bigger problem down the road something the right don't want to hear and it WILL translate into closing of hospitals, especially in rural where the needs are acute forcing those to travel hundreds of miles just to get basic care never mind the emergency(you will die before you get there).

Until the leadership stop pivoting the debate to the political calculations, I am not interested in hearing from them and already they balked on the deficit commission arguing pointless crap that really does not get into the heart of the matter: the willingness to tackle the issues head on!

Posted by: beeker25 | February 9, 2010 1:13 PM | Report abuse

As I said once before, after reading all the posts attached to an earlier article on health care reform, we are ungovernable!

Posted by: desertdan | February 9, 2010 1:11 PM | Report abuse

Spineless Democrats and Retarded Republicans. The country is great hands!!

God doesn't need to bless this country, it needs to save it from itself.

Posted by: VeloStrummer | February 9, 2010 1:11 PM | Report abuse

Funny, but all the pro-repugnicans in these comments use the same arguments and buzzwords: socialist, government-takeover, Alinsky, marxist, empty suit, liar, the-bill's-too-long-for-my-tiny-brain, etc., etc.

Sounds like they're all getting their talking points from one place... I wonder where?

Posted by: stephenlouis | February 9, 2010 1:08 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: ai3di |
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Evidently my postings struck a nerve. No, you evidently are still in a trance believing what this ego-centric politician is trying to sell.

Yes, Mr. Obama has not fulfilled any of his promises, has not presided in a bi-partisan manner and the majority of the american people are REJECTING his agenda!

Sit tight and keep believing his bull ----
and you will be in for a major surprise come next November.

WAKE UP!

Posted by: Hispana | February 9, 2010 12:39 PM | Report abuse
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I might be sitting and listening to Obamas bull, but you are doing the same thing listening to any Republican. It is the fault of both sides that has led us down this path. Now it seems like both sides have their own ideas on how to fix things and don't want to listen to the other side.
You and so many keep saying, "Just wait till November" Like it really will actually make any difference.

Posted by: ai3di | February 9, 2010 1:07 PM | Report abuse

Realist20 - yeah, they're dead, cause they were really old white men.

We replace ours.

You just dig up more America-hating Republic Party of No comrades from your friends in the Politburo (AEI).

MAKE THEM PHYSICALLY FILIBUSTER!

Posted by: WillSeattle | February 9, 2010 1:06 PM | Report abuse

Start over without the Republicans! They have turned the current healthcare bill into a Health insurance corporate bonus- scrap it and let the Dems get to work actually doing something for the American People.

Posted by: eagle2roost | February 9, 2010 1:06 PM | Report abuse

Political allegiance to Parties accomplishes nothing but ineffectual legislation and political careerism. Allegiance to the Electorate and the best interests of America is what politicians must swear to, and hold dear...

Posted by: wcmillionairre | February 9, 2010 1:05 PM | Report abuse

The foolishness and hatred of the American public is obvious here and in their reps in government. Is it no wonder that the blind are leading the blind. The Dem fools are as bad as the Repub fools; all are selfish narrow minded fools. The USA has evolved into a third world reepublic because of its open borders and closed minds.

While many can't afford prescriprions, others pay nothing. While tax credits are available, many have no income. While some have pre-existing conditions, many are healthy. Everyone taking care of themselves at the expense of others. This was never an American tradition and represents the "new" generation.

While Bush and Congress set us back a hunderd years, the Obama folks will surely cause the death of a former country. These folks are all fools and only got there because of the voting fools and money interests that put them there. Even the fools in the Supreme Court are allowing money interests to buy their freedom of speech, just like individuals. Issn't it nice that you and I can pay for this privilege just like corporations. We are all equal! Equally stupid that is...

Wake up fools. You all got what you wanted. NOTHING!

Posted by: OldTimeThinking | February 9, 2010 1:05 PM | Report abuse

The Republicans idea of health care reform is to redefine employer-paid health insurance as income and tax it, then turn around and give familes $5,600 and single people $2,300 in tax credits to buy their own insurance on the open market. They have the audacity to claim this will lower premiums and cover everyone. Who are they trying to fool? First you have to have the money in advance to buy the insurance, then there's the fact that their proposed credits don't come close to the cost of affordable coverage. They will ration care through wealth....like they do with everything else. The Republican Congress is lining up at the doors of big corporations, promising them everything in hopes of getting huge media buys at election time in return, now that the Supreme Court has turned our democracy over to the corporatists.

Republicans sure are in a hurry to prove that voting for them is voting against your own best interests. Sarah Palin is a handy tool for them, steering the tea baggers right into the sucker punch.

Posted by: Chagasman | February 9, 2010 1:03 PM | Report abuse

If the Republicans show up and the discussion is televised, the nation will see they have no health care plan. If I were them, I'd also find an excuse to not show up. Otherwise, Obama will clean their clocks, like he did in the forum with the House Republicans in Maryland.

Posted by: tlehman1117 | February 9, 2010 1:02 PM | Report abuse

If the Republicans show up and the discussion is televised, the nation will see they have no health care plan. If I were them, I'd also find an excuse to not show up. Otherwise, Obama will clean their clocks, like he did in the forum with the House Republicans in Maryland.

Posted by: tlehman1117 | February 9, 2010 1:02 PM | Report abuse

I guess this is in keeping with their stance of "no government". Just skip the entire process. At least they're being consistent - they simply do not care about the common American, and are not ashamed to say it.

Posted by: B2O2 | February 9, 2010 1:01 PM | Report abuse

These "summits" are ridiculous ideas. Why does Mr. Obama think anyone on the other side of the aisle would wish to attend what will be an obvious "set-up" to scapegoat his failure on this legislative disaster? Mr. Obama is shrewdly looking for blame-worthy opposition, instead of doing the obviously correct thing: START OVER! Besides, aren't there a few more pressing issues requiring the attention of Congress and Mr. Obama? (HINT).

Posted by: wcmillionairre | February 9, 2010 1:00 PM | Report abuse

President Obama walked into that hall full of Republican leaders with nothing more than the clothes on his back and a working brain.

An hour later he walked out with a smile on his face leaving behind a hall full of Republican leaders struck dumb. The looks on their faces asked "What just happened?'

Now when President Obama suggests meeting with them to discuss solutions to the nations problems, they flee, terrified, yelling "Run away, run away!"

They then run to the safety of their Republican meeting rooms to hold press conferences and write letters.

Pitiful!

Posted by: apspa1 | February 9, 2010 12:59 PM | Report abuse

I don't understand how the 2 Republican Representatives can say this was soundly rejected by the American people. This is so much BS. We don't get to vote on it and they don't care one way or another about the people of the United States. They won't even come to the table to discuss anything. That is like the little baby saying I'm not getting my way so I'll take my ball and go home. Both parties need to get off their collective rear ends and get to work for the people. Senator Kennedy must be rolling over in his grave. These two representatives are a damn good reason why the American people are disgusted with Congress.

Posted by: skyjumperdave | February 9, 2010 12:58 PM | Report abuse

I don't understand how the 2 Republican Representatives can say this was soundly rejected by the American people. This is so much BS. We don't get to vote on it and they don't care one way or another about the people of the United States. They won't even come to the table to discuss anything. That is like the little baby saying I'm not getting my way so I'll take my ball and go home. Both parties need to get off their collective rear ends and get to work for the people. Senator Kennedy must be rolling over in his grave. These two representatives are a damn good reason why the American people are disgusted with Congress.

Posted by: skyjumperdave | February 9, 2010 12:57 PM | Report abuse

Forget the decrepit, corrupt, brain-dead party of Mitch McConnell, Sarah Palin and bush. No, I correct myself. Don't forget the party or its scoundrels and pseudo-patriot blowhards.
We must always watch this party and its agents like a hawk. They sing about the red, white and blue, but they're only truly interested in green. It's all about the bottom line with the party of No, party of greed, party of callous indifference to the plight of most Americans.

Posted by: jimsteinberg1


This is your brain on liberalism. How pathetic and sad!

LIBERALISM...A TRUE MENTAL DISORDER!!

Posted by: cschotta1 | February 9, 2010 12:57 PM | Report abuse

ABIGSAM --
If Obama is serious on reform, then do the following:
As a minimum, the following elements should be included:
* TORT reform – a real driver of costs!
* Health Savings Accounts to allow individuals to at least be partially responsible for their OWN health care.
* Inter-border health insurance sales
* Targeted language for fraud, waste and abuse of MEDICARE and MEDICAID.
* New initiatives to provide scholarships for doctors and nurses to pursue medicine to preclude a further shortage of doctors and nurses. Folks, there is no need to develop a ‘Health Care System’ if you do not have a viable delivery system.
* Language that will permit government funds for health care be only expended for US CITIZENS.
If he is not serious, then update his resume for 2013, for he will be looking for new employment!!

This has been suggested by members of congress previously, but disregarded by Pelosi, Reid and the White House. How did that work for them?? Where are they now?? It was Obama that wanted to deal strictly with the democrats!!

Posted by: wheeljc | February 9, 2010 12:57 PM | Report abuse

Forget the decrepit, corrupt, brain-dead party of Mitch McConnell, Sarah Palin and bush. No, I correct myself. Don't forget the party or its scoundrels and pseudo-patriot blowhards.
We must always watch this party and its agents like a hawk. They sing about the red, white and blue, but they're only truly interested in green. It's all about the bottom line with the party of No, party of greed, party of callous indifference to the plight of most Americans.

Posted by: jimsteinberg1 | February 9, 2010 12:55 PM | Report abuse

The republicans, independents, and democrats who are listening to their constituents BEST SKIP ANOTHER PHOTO OP WITH OBAMA!! 75% of the Country is AGAINST ALL OF THIS FEDERAL TAKEOVER -- OBAMA'S POLICIES IN GENERAL! If Obama is not willing to start from scratch, then it is a WASTE OF TIME!!

Posted by: wheeljc | February 9, 2010 12:54 PM | Report abuse

Yeah right. I knew they'd find some excuse to cover their spineless refusal. If they were REALLY sincere, they'd come armed with facts and figures to support their claim that the existing proposals must be scrapped in their entirety.

This is just gamesmanship to conceal their cowardace.

Posted by: abigsam | February 9, 2010 12:52 PM | Report abuse

I'm a Democrat, a good old fashioned southern Democrat, but I detest the Reid- Pelosi idea of passing something by reconciliation and by-psssing their own Senate rules they helped create. Let me remind them that anything passed by reconciliation can be "undone" by reconciliation when the other party has 51 and 218 votes in Congress, and the way it looks right now that won't be too long. The "Blue Dog" Democrats need to listen to their constituents, forget about Reid and Pelosi and assure their re-election by opposing something they don't believe in and let those two and Obama know that. The liberals will never face up to acknowledging that the change Obama wants is not what the American people want. I'm tire of paying taxes to give ANYONE free health care, especially to illegal aliens. It would pay me to quit working and get on some government program such as SSI, fake disability to get Medicare, get my medical paid for and even get my phone paid taken care of for those who are on SSI, below the so-called poverty level, children on free lunches, etc. A lot of Americans do not even know what those people and illegal aliens receive from the government under the guise of helping the poor. The poor are those who work, try to buy insurance send their children to school without government aide. I pay for my phone, cable, & insurance on a limited income. They get theirs for nothing. Most of the people receiving aide smoke, have phones, cable TV, drive good cars, and get everything paid when it comes to education, lunches, etc. One more thing the stimulus package is said to be for the building of roads, bridges, etc. What does that do for the creation of jobs in the future? When the roads, bridges and other infrastructures are completed, those guys are still umemployed whether it is one, five, or ten years from now. The stimulus should be for businesses, especially small ones, to develop a climate of competition they can use against China, Mexico, India, etc. They are so short-sighted. I hope some of these programs will be challenged to the Supreme Court, because some of those socialistic ideas I believe are unconstitutional.

Posted by: jjeleven | February 9, 2010 12:50 PM | Report abuse

@Hispana

You speak of what Obama promises he hasn't kept. Can we ask you to go pull up his promises and see HOW MANY he has kept!

You must don't read much because you are talking like a rookie, dumb...

We are waiting for you to post some FACTS since you said he hasn't kept his promises. You probably don't even know what his promises were...lol..

We will be waiting Hispana. FACTS ONLY!!!!

Posted by: ConsciousMindz | February 9, 2010 12:49 PM | Report abuse

Time to pass the healthcare bill with the 51 majority required by the Constitution. The Republican Party is a far-right ideologically driven party with no relevant ideas at this stage. Cut taxes? Stupid. Big defense spending? Stupid. Small government? Not with 77 million Boomers about to retire.

Republicans were cast out because they have no practical solutions. The Dems are having a great debate, with the far-left to center-right adequately represented in their caucus.

Posted by: Factified | February 9, 2010 12:49 PM | Report abuse

Republicans were not shut out this past year - they only said they were, which is very, very different. There are some fine Republicans around, but they're not being allowed to do anything but stay in formation and keep quiet, which is hurting the party, the country, the people.

Posted by: jujones1 | February 9, 2010 12:48 PM | Report abuse

Kill the existing health care reform bill presented by the Senate and House. We can't afford it!
Start over with all parties included. TRANSPARENCY does NOT mean preparing bills by only one party behind closed doors.
This president just does not seem to understand this. No more "Chicago style" politics here!

Posted by: SeniorVet | February 9, 2010 12:46 PM | Report abuse

Why is President Obama still trying to deal with the party of Palin (aka The Tea Party)? Blue Cross in California is raising its rates through the stratosphere (39% for starters) in anticipation of health care lesgislation. Maybe, just maybe, we need health care reform. And we don't need the Republicans to get it.

Posted by: gsross | February 9, 2010 12:45 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: dirtyoleman | February 9, 2010 12:42 PM | Report abuse
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Is this what you learned in school? Methinks that you need to pay them a visit!

Posted by: Hispana | February 9, 2010 12:45 PM | Report abuse

The GOP has been skipping out on governing all year, what is new. If they cant be dictators they wont play ball. Much like Communists, they would rather destroy a democracy than compromise. Even the idiot Senators from Maine are in the radical right camp. My kids have more common sense than these freeloaders on public slary.

Posted by: paulnolan97 | February 9, 2010 12:22 PM |
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It's Obama's way or the highway.

That's not compromise.

They don't need the Republicans support anyway - they have the votes.

So own it, Obama. It's all your's.

Posted by: thinker16 | February 9, 2010 12:34 PM | Report abuse
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I am thinking that there were many times when Bush was in office that he passed many things without any compromise using laws of "emergency" and the fact that the Republicans follow blindly whoever their leader is. Yet he, and his whole party won't own any of it and seemingly don't want to work with Democrats at all to fix the situation because they think that things need to be their way and only their way.
I would rather be part of a party that debates within itself and doesn't just do everything that their leader tells them to do, than one that follows blindly whatever their leader passes to them, wheter it will harm people or not.

Posted by: ai3di | February 9, 2010 12:43 PM | Report abuse

greatgran1:

Very good post, unlike so many here? By the way, who is paying them?

Posted by: Hispana | February 9, 2010 12:43 PM | Report abuse

I love this.....

…shirt and a tie (sung to the tune of pants on the ground)...

…shirt and a tie shirt and a tie…
…walkin down Wall Street in my shirt and a tie…

...I can’t play ball cause I’m not an athletic guy…
…I can’t do physical labor but I sure can lie…

…shirt and a tie shirt and a tie…
…my portfolio is fat cause my accountant’s really sly…
…I’m walkin down Wall Street in my shirt and a tie…

…shirt and a tie shirt and a tie…
…my morals are low but my income is high…
…I’m worth one hundred of you but I can’t tell you why…

…shirt and a tie shirt and a tie…
…you can’t outsmart me so don’t even try…
…cause if I don’t get my way I can beg and I can cry…

…shirt and a tie shirt and a tie…
…walkin down Wall Street in my shirt and a tie…

Posted by: dirtyoleman | February 9, 2010 12:42 PM | Report abuse

I guess after the President waxed their asses last week, they'll make up any excuse not to face him and have a meaningful discussion in an open and public forum.

Posted by: pooky2 | February 9, 2010 12:42 PM | Report abuse

@drestarre

Either you must just listen to the news or your eyesight is going bad.

America's deficit for the next 8 years are negative. That is what your good ole Republican's did for this country. Came in with a surplus thanks to the Demo's and look what 8 years have created since than.

Do your research and read and stop listening to the tv and the radio. Get facts and you will see we don't need to start over (HEALTHCARE)we need to press forward with not just good ideas, IDEAS THAT ARE PROVEN/TESTED and approved to be effective...

Let's call the kettle black... it is what it is, a young, vibrant, intelligent and articulate man taking FACTS to the people with them in mind. Never saw any Republican leadership willing to be this transparent... Name a time! We will be waiting I know centuries from now... Get over there is a new sheriff in town...

Expose those earmarks in public and everything else that continues to eat up America's tax money... GO OBAMA!!! DON'T WORRY ABOUT THE HATERS.....

Posted by: ConsciousMindz | February 9, 2010 12:41 PM | Report abuse

As george Will said on Tthe Sunday TV show "This Week":

"Mr. Obama's idea of asking Republicans to participate is the same as asking them to stop being Republicans -- to which we have politely declined"

Doing that from memory may have reproduced that comment imperfectly, but I assure you the idea is totally sound.

Posted by: jimbob3 | February 9, 2010 12:41 PM | Report abuse

It figures, the Republican's agenda is to see the President fail, and at any cost. They could care less about the American people. Keep fighting for the people Obama!

Posted by: pooky2 | February 9, 2010 12:40 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: ai3di |
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Evidently my postings struck a nerve. No, you evidently are still in a trance believing what this ego-centric politician is trying to sell.

Yes, Mr. Obama has not fulfilled any of his promises, has not presided in a bi-partisan manner and the majority of the american people are REJECTING his agenda!

Sit tight and keep believing his bull ----
and you will be in for a major surprise come next November.

WAKE UP!

Posted by: Hispana | February 9, 2010 12:39 PM | Report abuse

I cannot believe all the posts defending the pending Democratic plans or what the Republicans are doing to stymie those plans.

Don't you people get it? Both parties have absolutely no interest in developing and implementing any plan which might lead to lowering of costs for health care and, thus, making it more accessible to more Americans.

The bill pending is a massive giveaway to the insurance and health care industry in the form of approximately ONE TRILLION dollars in new spending on health care which must be channeled through the private sector. This bill was crafted by Democrats in case no one was listening or observing the process. And, this bill is being fought tooth and nail by Republicans en masse in order to preserve the status quo where private firms have carte blanche to raise insurance rates and cost for services without any countervailing forces to offset these increases.

The way I see it both sides have sold out to their real constituencies: the insurance, health care and drug conglomerates who have made and will continue to make very healthy profits without any constaint on their ability to increase costs and rates in the future. And, who, in turn spend billions on lobbying and campaign contributions to keep their toadies in power. Exhibit I is Joe Lieberman.

Kill this bill, tell your elected representative to vote against it and then against any incumbent and send a group of real civic servants to Washington. No matter how you cut it, the cast of characters now in power are not capable of voting their consciences for the American people; they sold out a long time ago: both parties.

Posted by: bobfbell | February 9, 2010 12:38 PM | Report abuse


…shirt and a tie (sung to the tune of pants on the ground)...

…shirt and a tie shirt and a tie…
…walkin down Wall Street in my shirt and a tie…

...I can’t play ball cause I’m not an athletic guy…
…I can’t do physical labor but I sure can lie…

…shirt and a tie shirt and a tie…
…my portfolio is fat cause my accountant’s really sly…
…I’m walkin down Wall Street in my shirt and a tie…

…shirt and a tie shirt and a tie…
…my morals are low but my income is high…
…I’m worth one hundred of you but I can’t tell you why…

…shirt and a tie shirt and a tie…
…you can’t outsmart me so don’t even try…
…cause if I don’t get my way I can beg and I can cry…

…shirt and a tie shirt and a tie…
…walkin down Wall Street in my shirt and a tie…


Posted by: moon-base-alpha | February 9, 2010 12:24 PM | Report abuse
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At least they have a shirt and a tie, I doubt that you could do half the job or be smart enough to do half the job that any of the people on wall street do. Why are they worth 100 times more? Because they have high skills in high paced very stressful job, and don't just run a cash register or make hamburgers. I bet there are lots that are more athletic than you, or do you think that by getting drunk and yelling at the tv make you an athlete? You just sound jealous and hurt by the fact that they get paid a lot and you don't. Maybe you should have tried harder in school and life so that you too can live a life like they do.

Posted by: ai3di | February 9, 2010 12:36 PM | Report abuse

If you compromise on garbage you still have garbage. I say to the Republicans, stand firm. This President said he is not going to start from scratch. Obama and his cronies want this massive expensive maize of 110 government agencies which we all know will be a cesspool of waste and inefficiency. This is not cost reform. This is garbage and the framework for government takeover of one sixth of our economy. No one wants this government invasion into our personal decisions. We want competition, portability and tort reform not requiring this pathetic bill.
Republicans hold firm against this garbage. This is a political ploy and do not fall. The Dems had both House and Senate and could not push through a bill since most are getting quite an earful at home. Now he does not have a filibuster proof Senate, he gives this phony reach out to the other side. Hogwash.

Posted by: greatgran1 | February 9, 2010 12:36 PM | Report abuse

tmorgan2008,
Well said. I should watch my language though. I need to work on my tolerance and reading anon posts and replying is not the wisest use of my time. With that said, blatant ignorance really ticks me off. Sometimes ya just need to express disgust.

Posted by: dorklord | February 9, 2010 12:35 PM | Report abuse

The GOP has been skipping out on governing all year, what is new. If they cant be dictators they wont play ball. Much like Communists, they would rather destroy a democracy than compromise. Even the idiot Senators from Maine are in the radical right camp. My kids have more common sense than these freeloaders on public slary.

Posted by: paulnolan97 | February 9, 2010 12:22 PM |
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It's Obama's way or the highway.

That's not compromise.

They don't need the Republicans support anyway - they have the votes.

So own it, Obama. It's all your's.

Posted by: thinker16 | February 9, 2010 12:34 PM | Report abuse

Either Obama agrees to start with ahclean slate on Health care reform or there won't be any summit. It is already apparent the current Senate plan is NOT acceptable to Congress OR America.

Obama either agrees to start over, or Health Care Reform is dead.

No reform is better than the monstrosity that came out of the Senate. If the Dems want to proceed with reconciliation to try to pass their plan - let them. Fact is, they can't pass the current Senate Health Plan, even through reconciliation, or they already would have, as Moderate Dems have joined the GOP is rejecting this socialist Health plan.

Posted by: Realist20 | February 9, 2010 12:33 PM | Report abuse

It is not odd to see all of these liberal blogs in the Post. Their readership is mostly limited to those on the far left and one of the reasons it is losing respect and readership. It is amazing though how uninformed most of these bloggers are. Apparently, they ONLY read the Post and so have no idea that the Republicans made several efforts to contribute to healthcare reform, but were shunned by Pelosi and Reid as they didn't want anyone but themselves to get the glory.Heathcare reform is definitely needed, but it should take lots of study and input to make sure we get it right, It can't end up like Medicare and Social Security which sounded good when enacted but are in the process of going bankrupt today. Rather than one great sweep to change healthcare, it would seem the most intelligent way is to proceed step by step with each phase to make sure everything is working like expected. As each step is proven or modified to correct any deficiencies, go on to the next step, In this orderly fashion, we will eventually get a complete makeover of the healthcare industry with a much greater prospect of success. As an Independent, I don't care which party gets the credit. I just want the best plan possible.

Posted by: depoulins | February 9, 2010 12:32 PM | Report abuse

When are those in the Party of the Elite, ie., the Dems going to relaize their views are extreme and not reflective of the majority of this country. The health care plan in it's current form stinks-plain and simple.

Posted by: bbarbee2 | February 9, 2010 12:32 PM | Report abuse

President Obama,

When are you going to get it?

This is a Republic with a representative form of government and the majority of people in this country are saying NO, NO, NO to your Helth Care plan, economic and national security policies.

That evidently is a major shocker to your ego-centric constitution!!! An about face is needed, but you are too wrapped up in yourself to see what is coming!

It takes only a FOOL and NITWIT to still believe in the CHANGE that Obama promised! And believe me Mr. President, you totally mistook the american people! We are far smarter than you ever thought possible and that will bring you down to your knees!

Posted by: Hispana | February 9, 2010 12:32 PM | Report abuse

Bi-partisanship to the Republic Party crazies is passing everything they want, which essentially is any bill that hands tax money to their fatcat pals. Medicare Part D comes to mind, a 400 billion a year gift to insurers and big pharma.

And now that the Republic Party is so giddy and gleeful about killing affordable health insurance, Anthem and Blue Cross and all of the rest are jacking up premiums again, up to 35% more.


And the snickering Republic hacks say people should buy their own health insurance. Hey fellas, it costs 10 grand a year for a family of four to purchase a bare-bones plan, with another 10 grand in deductibles and co-pays. I guess Republic Party families have that kind of dough, but millions of us sure don't.

Posted by: mongolovesheriff | February 9, 2010 12:31 PM | Report abuse

josedfarias, You are so onto the Presidents shenanigans!!!He promised change, and oh my gosh, the change is in the wrong direction!!Again I say he has set us back decades. We are in deep blankety blank.

Posted by: drestarre | February 9, 2010 12:31 PM | Report abuse

All this past year we have seen how the Republicans have been shut down out of any negotiations and how the Democrats have done every underhanded deal under the table imaginable.

Have you seen this President ever give a signal of bi-partisanship when he blatantly holds meeting after meeting with lobbysts, Union and exclusive democratic leadership?

Where are the promises that you made Mr. Obama?

No, the american people has sent a strong signal that WE DO NOT ACCEPT this socialist agenda and the manner in which this President does business.

We need to start from scratch and then and only then the MAJORITY of americans will reconsider!

Posted by: Hispana | February 9, 2010 12:17 PM | Report abuse
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I love how you say things like "All this past year we have seen how the Republicans have been shut down out of any negotiations and how the Democrats have done every underhanded deal under the table imaginable."
You have actually seen this, or have you just been told this by the news and others?
"Have you seen this President ever give a signal of bi-partisanship when he blatantly holds meeting after meeting with lobbysts, Union and exclusive democratic leadership?"
Yes I have seen him give signals of bipartisanship. You must not because your hate make you blind.
Where are the promises that he made? Being held up by others or other circumstances beyond his control.
then I love how you group everyone together, like there is really that much agreement to your rants. "the american people has sent a strong signal that WE DO NOT ACCEPT..." I never sent that signal.
"He sooo underestimates the intelligence of the american people" If he does, it is only because he thinks that we are smarter and can understand more than we do.
"We need to start from scratch and then and only then the MAJORITY of americans will reconsider!" There you are again "The Majority", Do you even know what a majority is? Don't include me within your "majority"

Posted by: ai3di | February 9, 2010 12:30 PM | Report abuse

Will the White House answer the questions?

The Republicans should do NOTHING until they do.

The meeting is nothing but a dirty trick and the Administration should NOT be trusted.

Posted by: thinker16 | February 9, 2010 12:30 PM | Report abuse

The Republican Congress knows that the rising costs of Health Care and Prescription Drugs for Senior Citizens & Medicaid recipients in this country are just as much a part of the growing Federal Deficits as is the cost for their War's.

The Rethugs in Congress knows all of this, it's a shame their constituents who call themselves *Patriots" don't know it.

Posted by: lcarter0311 | February 9, 2010 12:26 PM | Report abuse

What a bunch of weasels. The Republican leadership should be ashamed of themselves.

Posted by: Lefty_ | February 9, 2010 12:25 PM | Report abuse

…shirt and a tie (sung to the tune of pants on the ground)...

…shirt and a tie shirt and a tie…
…walkin down Wall Street in my shirt and a tie…

...I can’t play ball cause I’m not an athletic guy…
…I can’t do physical labor but I sure can lie…

…shirt and a tie shirt and a tie…
…my portfolio is fat cause my accountant’s really sly…
…I’m walkin down Wall Street in my shirt and a tie…

…shirt and a tie shirt and a tie…
…my morals are low but my income is high…
…I’m worth one hundred of you but I can’t tell you why…

…shirt and a tie shirt and a tie…
…you can’t outsmart me so don’t even try…
…cause if I don’t get my way I can beg and I can cry…

…shirt and a tie shirt and a tie…
…walkin down Wall Street in my shirt and a tie…


Posted by: moon-base-alpha | February 9, 2010 12:24 PM | Report abuse

I love the comments that announce how they can't wait till November. Typical GOP. Do nothing and wish for someone else to fix it. Old saying: You can wish in one hand and s%it in the other...which one will fill up first?

Posted by: dorklord | February 9, 2010 12:24 PM | Report abuse

Dear Mr Bush and Mr. McCain,

You two have made a complete mess of the system that you was and is hired to do. Thank you for keeping this country a mess.

Posted by: jonacameronsr |


Some cheese for your WHINE?

Posted by: cschotta1 | February 9, 2010 12:24 PM | Report abuse

The GOP has been skipping out on governing all year, what is new. If they cant be dictators they wont play ball. Much like Communists, they would rather destroy a democracy than compromise. Even the idiot Senators from Maine are in the radical right camp. My kids have more common sense than these freeloaders on public slary.

Posted by: paulnolan97 | February 9, 2010 12:22 PM | Report abuse

Force the really really old white men of the GOP to physically filibuster.

They won't last three days.

Posted by: WillSeattle | February 9, 2010 12:01 PM
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Hmmmmm-Ted Kennedy, Senator Byrd, Congressman Murtha.....see a pattern here?

Posted by: Realist20 | February 9, 2010 12:21 PM | Report abuse

Dear Mr Bush and Mr. McCain,

You two have made a complete mess of the system that you was and is hired to do. Thank you for keeping this country a mess.

Posted by: jonacameronsr | February 9, 2010 12:21 PM | Report abuse

For the record, Dorklord's first message, while using terms many would not, should NOT be classed as abusive. The Obstructican Party has given timely reason to abolish the "hold," filibuster or whatever you call it. Better yet, abolish the U.S. Senate, as it is fundamentally antidemocratic, and the federalist model no longer makes sense. Being a Californian, I have had a long time to consider antimajoritarian aspects of the American system and believe they must all go.

Posted by: tmorgan2008 | February 9, 2010 12:20 PM | Report abuse

...and still you refuse to answer the question of who has the nicer lips?...

...Sara Palin...

...or Alan Greenspan?...


Posted by: moon-base-alpha | February 9, 2010 12:19 PM | Report abuse

Republicans seem to fear that their hypocrisy will be discussed at this summit and the Public will realize that Republican proposals work like this:
Get one hundred Dollars tax incentives from the government (increasing the federal debt) and pay yourself two hundred Dollars more taxes (called ‘premiums’) to private Insurance Companies instead.

With the Republican mantra of tax incentives the average citizen will dramatically loose. Private corporate greed will flourish. Remember the Bush/Cheney-years? The public amnesia is astounding.

The Republican remedy will lead - even faster as today - to dramatically smaller numbers of insured people, higher premiums, bankrupt families, bankrupt businesses, and bankrupt states.

Until today nobody has mentioned it: The Congressional Budget Office has never analyzed any Republican proposal. Not a single one. And Republicans know that. Only without scrutiny they can propose to „offer federal money as a reward to states that achieve specified reductions in premiums or in the number of people without insurance” (Republican proposal, NYT, Febr. 8).

Only without public scrutiny Republicans can cheekily propose: let’s spend more federal money for tax incentives without saying where this „federal money” shall come from? In their proposals it comes from nowhere, that is it comes from the same sources where Bush/Cheney’s tax cuts came from: From borrowed money and exploding public deficits.

Republicans call the summit „political theater” (Republican Judd Gregg) because it would expose the Republicans’ real agenda:

After two Bush Tax Cuts and the Iraq War (which were not paid for) they want another round of Republican tax cuts for Big Insurance Companies that will finance the Republican agenda of bankrupting Health Care. Public bankruptcy will finance the increasing premiums of Private Corporations and simultaneously finance the seizure of power by the Republican party.

Posted by: Hegelfan | February 9, 2010 12:19 PM | Report abuse

The people see the Social Security and medicare plans robbed and do not want such Government "promises" of healthcare being there. No, is the consensus.

The GOP should boycott, and instead meet where the people's business takes place, and quit running around.

They should introduce a bill to cut the salaries in half of all elected officials, end their own retirement program, and place 6 year term limits in Congress.

The people want Congress to put the money withheld from the people back into social security, and quit stealing it for themselves.

Whoever does that, will be welcomed back to "represent" again.

Posted by: dottydo | February 9, 2010 12:18 PM | Report abuse

I have a few questions.
Why do the Republicans want to scrap the entire bill and start over? Can any of the current bill be salvaged because it was what is needed? (Like preexsisting conditions?)
What are the job killing bills mentioned? Is it part of the health care reform?
Are the Republicans really worried that the President is going to show how flimsy the Republican health reform bill ideas are because, a) they are really good ideas and the Democrates are just being stupid to listen or b) they really are flimsy ideas and they don't want to be embarassed?
I believe what the Republican guys said about bipartisan being more than writing a bill and then demanding the other guys jump on board, but how many of the reason why Democrats are not listening to Republicans because the Republicans are adding things to the bill that only benifit themselves or just a few and nothing to do with the bill? Or vice versa, how much is the reason that the Republicans are being naysayers because the Democrats are adding things to the bill that are unreasonable and benifit onyl themselves and such? Instead of just being naysayers to make everything the Democrats try to pass fail, and therfore giving the idea that Democrats are failures and only Republicans can fix the mess, that in my opinion, the entire government is responible for?

Posted by: ai3di | February 9, 2010 12:18 PM | Report abuse

The pubes aren't quite ready to get slapped around again... still licking wounds from their last session with the president. The cowards couldn't handle him on their own turf so what's going to happen on his? It's no contest whatever the venue...It's a man against children. Not only do they not have a credible speaker for their cause, they have no credible plans. Of course they won't fight for whatever they stand for...they have nothing... they have nobody.

Posted by: seakeys | February 9, 2010 12:18 PM | Report abuse

Here we go again. Again. Americans clearly want health care reforms. With so many Americans out of work, it is easy to imagine that many folks are not making any doctor visits. The increased burden on emergency room care, must be trending up, these days.

Conventional wisdom says, If it ain't broke don't fix it. But if it is broke, then what? Can politicians admit that our health care system is broken?

The health care system was designed by Congress. The system does not scale for all Americans. The system divides workers into unnecessary classes: young, old, public workers, union workers, corporate workers, healthy, and pre-existing "chronic" unhealthy.

Our health care system is very undemocratic, and perhaps unconstitutional. If you can afford to buy health insurance, you might say you are pursuing "happiness." If you cannot afford health insurance, surely you are "unhappy."

Posted by: rmorris391 | February 9, 2010 12:18 PM | Report abuse

The Republicans are not the ones pushing healthcare reform at this time, the DEMS own it. So if the DEMS manage to pass it and screw healthcare up for everyone, they can be proud of their strenght in numbers. The GOP know that this is not the time to Spend Spend Spend. After the PORKULUS Bill,we are in deep debt. The GOP know that first we need to fix the economy and the job market. They want healhcare reform, just not right this minute, and done in a truely bi-partisan way.Start from scratch when the time is right for this great country!!!!

Posted by: drestarre | February 9, 2010 12:17 PM | Report abuse

It takes only a fool not to recognize that this is nothing more than a political ploy by Obama, who after months of frustration, is trying to seize the moment based upon what he thinks was the result of his prior meeting with the Republicans: Obama thought that he dealt a blow to the Republicans, when in fact they were composed and actually showed Obama for the bully that he can be and more than anything, a liar. All this past year we have seen how the Republicans have been shut down out of any negotiations and how the Democrats have done every underhanded deal under the table imaginable.

Have you seen this President ever give a signal of bi-partisanship when he blatantly holds meeting after meeting with lobbysts, Union and exclusive democratic leadership?

Where are the promises that you made Mr. Obama? They flew away in a second as soon as he took office.

No, the american people has sent a strong signal that WE DO NOT ACCEPT this socialist agenda and the manner in which this President does business.

And these past elections have shown what will happen in November. And suddenly there is a move for appearances sake only.
It is so clear that Obama is an ideolog entrenched in his beliefs and more than anything a LIAR! He sooo underestimates the intelligence of the american people who see through his mask and clearly see just an EMPTY SUIT with pretenses that fall way too short of his capabilities.

President Obama, GET IT! We have caught you in the ACT!!

The Republican leadership better understand quickly that Obama is not sincere and is playing a political game. And they are certainly within their rights to DEMAND a fair level if they come to the table.

DO AWAY WITH THIS HELLHOLE OF HEALTHCARE BILL!!!

We need to start from scratch and then and only then the MAJORITY of americans will reconsider!

The next elections cannot come any faster!

Posted by: Hispana | February 9, 2010 12:17 PM | Report abuse

Definition of a Republican: A ideological coward who worships their own ignorance, doesn't have an single new idea ad would rather see their nation crumble below their feet than help anyone fix the damage they created in the last eight years.

REPUBLICANS SHOULD BE ASHAMED!!

Posted by: mhitchons | February 9, 2010 12:16 PM | Report abuse

The Republicans would do well in skipping Obama's "health care summit". This is no summit, only window dressing to call out the Republicans as obstructionists as well as uncooperative, should they not go along with his Obamacare. Obama is not interested in Republican input at all. I hope they can see through his clever political evil tactics, and call him out on it. From the start it had to be Obama's way or no way. He is both stubborn and uncooperative.

Posted by: Tommypie | February 9, 2010 12:16 PM | Report abuse

OK...I don't get it. Obama is asking them to bring their ideas. The Dems have theirs. It is not rocket science. Bring your f'n ideas!!! Pathetic, chicken sh$t, do nothing morons! It is obvious GOPS are afraid to show and get exposed. What they are really afraid of is the public eye on how ineffective they are.....again...after 9 years!!! What I do like is as the GOPS loll around and act like a herd of cats Obama will be forced to work with out em. Finally!!

Posted by: dorklord | February 9, 2010 12:15 PM | Report abuse

Let's see if Obama answers the letter sent him - if he doesn't then there is no summit.

If he does and still insists on the Senate Plan (filled with bribes of Nelson, Landrieu, labor unions and more) as the starting point, then there is no summit.

If Obama answers and agrees to start over with a clean slate in a truly bi-partisan way, then the Republicans can attend and much can be accomplished.

The lefties can howl all they want, but they painted themselves into this corner and if they want the GOP to bail them out, they will HAVE TO AGREE TO STARTING ANEW.

Posted by: Realist20 | February 9, 2010 12:14 PM | Report abuse

@drestarre

start Over... be real. America doesn't have TIME to start over... If you have ideas BRING THEM TO THE TABLE and stop whinning like a bunch of girls...

You true RepublicaNO's are really about to see just who the RepulicaNO'S have their best interest in. Not you average Americans. You will see how your vote to remain loyal to a bunch of idiots looks like "LIVE" and in color...

Obama is putting everyone on blast even his own party to show the American people the true cause to be involved. Stop voting for a particular party because your father and mother did and still are voting the same way. Vote for the party that can help YOU! Wake up you RepublicaNO'S, if the Republicans was for you the last 8 years than why in the hell America was on the brink of collapse and failure.

The saying "America the Great" better starting thinking clearer with their brains versus thinking out of their posteriors....

Repulicans DON'T WANT CHANGE, they want it to STAY THE SAME and watch America sink to its lowest term...

Everyone should vote every Republican running for office come November. Than the heads of the GOP will truly know what the American people REALLY WANT, "CHANGE"...

Posted by: ConsciousMindz | February 9, 2010 12:14 PM | Report abuse

@walker1, you are right! Obama has been trouncing the Republicans! He has accomplished quite a bit in one year, hasn't he? Let us check his record:
1. He promised in the campaign and he ushered in a new era of post-partisanship!!! N O T !!! From the very beginning Obama and his hackers introduced division and partisanship by going after Limbaugh and declaring him the leader of the GOP!! Right after his inauguration, when dealing with concerns of House Republicans what was his answer? "I WON!" Obama has registered the highest divisions ever in the country!!!
2. He claimed to be a post-racial President! And he handled himself with wisdom and without pre-judging on the case of the arrest of his friend Henry Louis Gates Jr!! N O T!! Obama jumped to a conclusion that his friend's arrest was racial motivated! When facts became known he tried to save his face and that was the reason for the Beer Summit!!!
3. Obama has not allowed any terrorist to attack the American people on the USA soil!! N O T!! Fort Hood and Detroit flight bomb attempt happened under his watch. We know what happened in Fort Hood and almost 300 did not get killed on the way to Detroit because Abdulmutallab had problems detonating the bomb!!
4. Obama has successfully prosecuted KSM and other terrorists in civilian trials in NYC. The terrorists are waiting execution! N O T!!! We all know what is going on!!!
5. Obama has successfully convinced the American people that civilian trials are the best way to go in prosecuting terrorists!!! N O T!! The largest majority of the American people want their tax dollars to be used to catch terrorists, not to give them citizen rights!!
6. Obama has successfully convinced Iran to drop its Nuclear pursuit!!! N O T!! Iran is more belligerent than ever and is moving on towards a nuclear weapon!
7. Obama has brought North Korea under control!! N O T!!! North Korea continues to make missile tests in order to provoke the USA.
8. Unemployment is down to 6% because of the success of the bipartisan Stimulus Package which successfully passed!!! N O T!! Unemployment is close to 20% unofficially, and 9,7% officially, after the administration promised that if the stimulus was passed unemployment would never reach 8% (it reached 10,2% officially). And the PACKAGE was passed by DEMOCRATS only!!!
9. Obama has successfully passed, in a bipartisan way, cap and trade!!! N O T!! It passed the House on partisan line and is being held in the senate!
10. Obama has successfully passed the HC overhaul with support from both Democrats and Republicans!!! N O T!! Two different bills were passed without bipartisan support. The bills were so different that it is waiting reconciliation and we all know what happened in MA and what happened to the HC bill.
Well, did I miss anything?

Posted by: josedfarias | February 9, 2010 12:12 PM | Report abuse

The Republican Agenda for the new millenium has not been fulfilled. It is continuing to work with its Red Republican-Communist Chinese masters to effectively destroy all organized labor, social security and medicare in the USA. That's why they choose to be called "Red States".

Okay folks, am I on the right track? Trying to score a job with Fox and I thought a good Glenn Beckish paranoid piece would cinch it. What? What's that? What I said is true? And they're attempting to blame the Democrats for it? That's not new.

Posted by: LiberalPatriot | February 9, 2010 12:09 PM | Report abuse

you gripe about being excluded (which was a lie, but I digress) then when you are invited, you claim it's a trap so you don't have to show up and say anything, because you have nothing to say except tort reform.

the bills have been passed already. whether the conversation is over fixing them or starting over, it's absurd to demand that they be thrown out and buried before you will talk about the subject. Most of what's in the bills is in fact acceptable to Republicans. Most of what's already in them would be in a bill written by the Republicans if Obama handed them a pen.

but as Obama has already pointed out, they are starting to oppose their own ideas, they are so bent on just saying no.

Posted by: JoeT1 | February 9, 2010 12:09 PM | Report abuse

Obama is just looking for a photo-op. People like 'kebred' are koolaide drinking baffoons if they don't see this for what it is, a check in the block photo op and no more.

Hey Barry - do you really think the public is so stupid as to not understand what you're objective is here?

You are soooo much of an empty suit it would be funny as hell execpt for the position you hold.

Perhaps you can call a life-line number and get some grown-up help.

1-800-Pres-JWB

Posted by: rvenema | February 9, 2010 12:09 PM | Report abuse

What happened to "Country First"?

Posted by: pgmichigan

Perhaps you should be asking the democrats that very question. Remember these democrat statements intended to make our president look weak during a war?

"Our Marines are murderers"
"The war is lost"
"We can't win in Iraq"
"Close Gitmo"

Posted by: cschotta1 | February 9, 2010 12:08 PM | Report abuse

All this is is a half-baked attempt by Obama to try and make it LOOK like he actually cares what Americans want or Republicans think. He's trying to save face because Indies are FLEEING him in DROVES.

If he doesn't answer the GOP letter, I'd cancel it and then they can PROVE yet AGAIN how Obama simply wants to continue to shove BAD LEGISLATION for this country down our throats.

I can't WAIT until November!!!!

Posted by: KimberlyAM | February 9, 2010 12:07 PM | Report abuse

Bring on the filibusters.

Televise the proceedings.

Watch the Republicans fold like crumpled Kleenex.

Posted by: WhatHeSaid | February 9, 2010 12:07 PM | Report abuse

@JD538, "to offer nothing," where have you been JD538? The GOP has offered a full blown HC bill, however, it got no consideration whatsoever by the Democrats and Obama! The "summit" is a joke! It is Obama trying to scape the fury of the American people about the way they were doing things: shut down competition to your ideas, buying votes with sweet deals (Nebraska and Louisiana) and giving special tax breaks for special groups! What he is offering is a joke! And most American will see this for what it is: A POLITICAL STUNT!

Posted by: josedfarias | February 9, 2010 12:07 PM | Report abuse

Are these Republicans for real? If they continue to say; "We need health care reform", and then won't go to the summit and continue to say "NO"; if they say "We need jobs", but continue to say "NO". WHY? That leaves us only to assume it is for political reasons and not for what is best for our country. If this continues, vote them out this fall. What happened to "Country First"?

Posted by: pgmichigan | February 9, 2010 12:04 PM | Report abuse

Health-care costs are killing the American economy.

Health-care costs are killing American businesses (large and small).

Health-care costs are killing Americans (through denied treatment, delayed treatment or unaffordable treatment) leaving America with an unhealthy workforce.

In this midst of this fiscal, business and health crisis, the GOP (Goobers Only Party) says the only word it knows: "No!"

Posted by: WhatHeSaid | February 9, 2010 12:01 PM | Report abuse

Force the really really old white men of the GOP to physically filibuster.

They won't last three days.

Posted by: WillSeattle | February 9, 2010 12:01 PM | Report abuse

Look here's the deal, I agree with the Historian. If we must have complete healthcare reform, then give us all what the congress has. Don't you find it odd that they wanted nothing to do with the healhcare they want to give to the people? What is wrong with that picture? This president along with Nancy Pelosi & Harry Reid have managed to divide this country more than any other in my lifetime,(and I ain't no spring chicken), which will have lasting effects for many long years to come. Barack Obama has set race relations back ages. Why can't we all just love one another??? This is not the "CHANGE" America voted for.

Posted by: drestarre | February 9, 2010 11:59 AM | Report abuse

Let me get this straight, after shutting out the GOP for a year, trying to ram through a socialist health plan designed by the far left of the Democratic party, and failing to do so even with massive majorities in the House and Senate, Obama wants the GOP to sit in one of his staged "summits" to somehow legitimize the Senate Health plan built on bribes that the American Public has clearly rejected.

If Obama was willing to start from scratch then this "summit" could prove very effective, but if Obama is proposing to start with the same flawed, rejected Health Plan out of the Senate, then the GOP would be fools to attend this Obama Photo-op.

Everyone knows the current Senate Health Plan cannot pass as moderate Democrats are running away from this socialist monstrosity, and the ONLY way Obama gets any kind of Health Plan is if he agrees to start over and include the Republican ideas, espcially tort reform, and no coverage for abortions and illegal aliens.

If Obama sticks to his current Senate Health Plan, there will be no Health Care Reform.

Posted by: Realist20 | February 9, 2010 11:57 AM | Report abuse

The GOP is running scared, they think the Republicans will loose the next election as badly as the last.

Posted by: walker1

"WHAT CAN BROWN DO FOR YOU?"-Still haven't gotten the message, eh lib?

Personally, I don't think the GOP has anything to worry about this November.

Posted by: cschotta1 | February 9, 2010 11:57 AM | Report abuse

To offer nothing and to obstruct everything is to abandon those who belong to their party. At a time when the country is facing many problems, they seem to be laughing at our struggles. We must remember these people when it's time to vote again.

Posted by: JD538


The DNC is control of Congress and the White House. Perhaps if the democrats had more ideas besides more government and growing the unions, no?

Posted by: cschotta1 | February 9, 2010 11:55 AM | Report abuse

DO NOT TRUST THE HOODRAT, OBAMA.

Obama is a sneaky slimy snake !

Posted by: dashriprock | February 9, 2010 11:55 AM | Report abuse

The Republicans are not going to want any health care bill that has a Democrat stamp on it, particularly President Obama's. Many, such as Mr. Boehner (perpetually tanned, perfectly coiffed, expensively dressed - what's his district paying for?) want only use a certain vocabulary, one that might not work in an open discussion/debate. Of course, he and such others could take to writing their "talking points" on their palms - that might help reduce their fears...

Posted by: jujones1 | February 9, 2010 11:54 AM | Report abuse

After the trouncing US President Obama gave over 100 of them, senior GOP officials told all candidates and representatives not to debate with the US President.

The GOP is running scared, they think the Republicans will loose the next election as badly as the last.

Posted by: walker1 | February 9, 2010 11:54 AM | Report abuse

This decision by the House GOP comes as no surprise at all.
They boxed themselves into their corner, which they are fiercely defending, like a city under siege, and they believe this is in their political interest.
The good of the country can go to he11 in a handbasket, as far as they're concerned.
This firmly establishes that the stories that the Democrats were shut out when they were in power are absolutely true.
A vote for any Republican to serve in the House or Senate of our national legislature is an act of treason to this country.
Even if a Democrat appears to be too much in the bag with special interests, a vote for that Democrat would serve to place someone trying to rebuild our nation from the 2008 meltdown; a vote for any other candidate is treason.

Posted by: Judy-in-TX | February 9, 2010 11:53 AM | Report abuse

If the President hadn't wasted so much time trying to work with the obstructionist Republicans, we'd have health care reform by now. If he didn't want to work with the Repubs, we'd have started out with a single payer plan. Dems have made concession after concession and still the get no Repub votes. In addition he has to work against a so-called "liberal" media that prints Repub propaganda such as the letter in the article-a letter full of misinformation and downright lies, clearly insincere, intended for political spin. I don't understand how the right wing conservative minority expects to continue to make all the decisions even after the country overwhelmingly voted against them. We've done things there way for for too long and look where it's gotten us! Dems have the majority, the people want health care reform now!!! Get it done, forget about trying to work with Repubs!

Posted by: Pamela0071 | February 9, 2010 11:53 AM | Report abuse

Some men just can't perform with the Light On! I can't believe the entire Republican party and supporters are this impotent. You are afraid the American people are gonna see something revealing. You have no idea what to do so you are running to the hills and screaming from the bushes. Somebody stand up! The facts won't lie, if you have the facts on your side....STAND UP! You like to call the President Dumbo, so prove it! COWARDS!

Posted by: minco_007 | February 9, 2010 11:52 AM | Report abuse

Looks like Boehner and Cantor actually sent the bill around to professionals resulting in the realization their bill is completely flawed. Many Democrats understand issue of health care reform. Maybe they should have thought twice before submitting a bill written by Aetna.
All you need to do is spend 15 minutes researching the details behind the Republican plan to understand why is a complete failure. Tort reform? Savings equals less 2% of annual costs and does nothing to help increase coverage. Across state lines? Without the removal of federal anti-trust exemption, will allow health insurance companies to move to the least regulated state and cherry pick even more than they currently do. This is why "across state lines" comes directly from the health insurance lobby.

Posted by: politicalpinball | February 9, 2010 11:51 AM | Report abuse

sandy5274:
Palin in 2012! I sure can't wait until Palin's in office so that we can ALL be as quaint as she is. Phrases like "hopey/changey" will certainly lend her the credibility Obama's education lacks with foriegn heads of state. It'll go about as far as "nucular". Crib notes on the palm look even better. Instead of being led by someone who was able to complete a dedicated course of study from a world-renowned institution, we should give the reigns to a quitter beauty queen. How's that for "Hopey/Changey"? Eva Peron in 2012!

Posted by: KJR1 | February 9, 2010 11:49 AM | Report abuse

To offer nothing and to obstruct everything is to abandon those who belong to their party. At a time when the country is facing many problems, they seem to be laughing at our struggles. We must remember these people when it's time to vote again.

Posted by: JD538 | February 9, 2010 11:49 AM | Report abuse

It sounds like the house GOP has joined the Iranian regime in creating extreme demands for the sole purpose of disrupting even the idea of productive negotiation.

Posted by: Jose6 | February 9, 2010 11:48 AM | Report abuse

From what I have seen Obama's main purpose for the summit is POLITICS! Can you imagine the Democrats allowing for true reform? We all know many on the left, a large number by the way, are already considering the current passed bills as bad, as not going far left enough. And Obama has so far clearly demonstrated he will not start everything over! Well, what he has done so far has clearly upset the American people, so, what is he doing? Trying to minimize the political damage! He has so far not allowed anything from the GOP side! Now he wants to portray the GOP as not sitting on the table!

Posted by: josedfarias | February 9, 2010 11:43 AM | Report abuse

The repub leadership has every right to ask for a level playing field before engaging in the Feb 25 summit. And Mr. Obama should agree to stop the reconciliation ploy, if he's sincere.
Otherwise, it will just be another photo op sell-job before the dems ram their tainted bill through Congress. Which, of course, will have been accomplished through yet another backroom deal.
Enough!

Posted by: mtpeaks | February 9, 2010 11:43 AM | Report abuse

Reminds me of little kids who throw a fit and take their toys home when they don't get their way.

Posted by: jef2 | February 9, 2010 11:42 AM | Report abuse

The GOP should steer clear of this "summit". Anyway one looks at it, it will be a photo op for Obamna. He'll control the proceedings. The chances are that he is already rehearsing his retorts to the GOP. obviously Obama knows what the GOP's suggestion are--- essentially AMERICAN thoughts that are ananthema to socialists.
I wish that the GOP would be more aggressive. With idealogues such as Obama and the ballet dancer one must be very tough, all elbows and knees.

Posted by: Hunthorse | February 9, 2010 11:42 AM | Report abuse

GOP motto is "our way or the highway" - LOL
Democracy, out - Dictatorship, in.

Posted by: angie12106 | February 9, 2010 11:40 AM | Report abuse

Kudos to the Republican leadership for recognizing this "summit" for what it is: a trap to make them look bad.

Barry and his Chicago thug buddies have no interest in working with the Republicans. Or listening to the American people.
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I laugh when I see comments like this. It only shows the American people how the people how support the Teabaggers, Birthers and Far Right republicans are uninformed and get all there news for Faux News because they are too lazy to research and think for themselves. They are lead astray by a party that votes against their self interests. Health care reform would benefit them the most by mandating that insurers cover pre-existing conditions. But they are too lazy to think for themselves and believe in a Party that is for corporate america and against anything that helps the less fortunate of the citizenry, such as health, education and regulatory reform. Free market principles is a code word for special interest and corporate america. It really shocks me how the Red Staters and those on the Far right vote against their own self interests. The idea the republican leadership would threaten not to attend because it's a trap. Oh please, if he republicans were confident in there ideas they would show up regardless. They can't articulate a position that makes sense and speak without sounding like a 5th grader next to President Obama that's why people like like this previous commenter call it a trap, perhaps you should vote for something who can think for themselves rather than someone who wants to tow a nonsensical party line and you wonder why a large portion of Obama supporters are collge educated, that's not a surprise.

Posted by: mhartwell | February 9, 2010 11:40 AM | Report abuse

This is an earnest answer for those Republicans who seem sincerely stung by many Democrats' scorn. The Republican party controlled the House, Senate and White House for much of the last decade. They utterly failed to use it to promote fiscal restraint and genuine health care reform. Their sole "contribution" was the dreadful Medicare Drug program that was a sweetheart deal for drug companies, did nothing to improve access or control health cost for regular Americans, and makes the budget "Cost Curve" worse.

I make no excuses for Pelosi & co who seem so old-school to me-- not the statesmanlike leaders we need now--but, frankly, this is a human response to how Tom DeLay and Newt Gingrich ruthlessly excluded and ignored the opposition when they ran the show. Marginalizing the opposition wasn't right then; it isn't right now; it's just the past sins coming back to hurt our political institutions today. It is sad, but shouldn't be surprising.

Boehner and Cantor could look very statesmanlike and credible if they opened with an admission that Republicans failed at leadership on health reform and fiscal restraint in the last decade. Then it would be up to Pelosi/Reid to admit that Republicans have legitimate points to contribute to the debate.

Posted by: Hunter | February 9, 2010 11:40 AM | Report abuse

It was all that My I could hope for that the entire Nation would ponder upon the recollections and the impact of the makings of this President. Read his first book. the Repubs are creating a doubt in the minds of Our people still in the belief that Americans are so inhumane as to believe in falsehoods and rightly slanted fairy tales. Health Care coverage is for everybody no one denied for preexisting, 30 million United Statesians without coverage get some and the only real decision to be made is taxing the Rich instead of those Cadillac insurance plans of the Unions.

The President has showed his true colors Red and White and Blue and the say No Repubs in a nation founded on being the very meaning of being United are unable to embrace, and unwilling to listen, and scared that the Administration will expose this lunacy on national TV. Remember
when Gingrich and his Congress shut down Government during the Clinton era. and recall that
George W. didn't really win the first time. Republicans are simply idiots and they will pay the price of being exposed whenever Face to Face with cameras rolling and Barak Obama the President of these here United States of America telling the people of our Nation what he is really trying to do for everybody in this country.

Posted by: waltermwashingtonjr | February 9, 2010 11:37 AM | Report abuse

This is a true representation of what the Republicans are: liars & hypocrites. I hope that the Democrats make a point out of how conservative Democrats' input was translated (not at all for the better) into modifications of the Health Care Reform Bill. Enough is enough, since they bent over backwards to kiss the Republicans in the backside!
Let them opt out.
I would recommend that if the "summit" occurs, that if the Republicans fail to appear, the Democrats nonetheless have empty seats at the venue, for all to see.
The President needs to state carefully that the options for discussion begin once the Republicans show up. The package that the Democrats put together is the vehicle that will serve as the vehicle for discussion. End of story. The President is open to possibilities, but the American people have seen the Congress battle on this issue much of 2009. That should be quite enough to say: come to the table. We've spent a lot of work already on this. Come & talk.

Posted by: zennheadd | February 9, 2010 11:36 AM | Report abuse

It's all over for the DeamonRATS, the Party of Mo'.

Mo' Debt.

Mo' Unemploymnet.

Mo' Deficit Spending.

Mo' Earmarks.

Mo' Terrorism.

Mo' Fascism.

Mo' Socialism.

Mo' Taxes.

Posted by: mipost1 | February 9, 2010 11:36 AM | Report abuse

Republican House refusal to come to the health care reform meeting will be the first step in successful passage of the bill. Republican House attendance at the health care reform meeting will be the first step in successful passage of the bill.

Posted by: dudh | February 9, 2010 11:34 AM | Report abuse

As far as I am concerned, Boehner and the other GOP bastards are a bunch of traitors to their country. To refuse to negotiate on anything shows all they care about is destroying the country. I hate all of them.

Posted by: alamo2 | February 9, 2010 11:33 AM | Report abuse

AGAIN Democrats.......get a Clue.......

The issue isn't the GOP........the issue is Democrats fighting other Democrats.

This LIE that the GOP is the reason behind this corrupt bill not passing is going to FLY out here today.

We The People will continue to CONFRONT this liberal/progressive propaganda.....

It the Democrats fault that a health care bill didn't pass.........DEMOCRATS FAULT ONLY!

Posted by: allenridge | February 9, 2010 11:33 AM | Report abuse

If someone invigtes you to help design a house in the name of bi-partisanship, and when you get there you find that all he will let you do is pick a couple of paint colors, why go?

The FrankenBill called healthcare has already proven itself both to be unpopular and so complex as to require blatent bribery to get enough votes to pass houses of congress dominated by your own party -- at what point do you simply realize that the framework is a bad foundattion -- and starting over is at once the smart, honerable, and only rational thing to do?

Posted by: DOps | February 9, 2010 11:31 AM | Report abuse

The GOP has a history of wanting to negotiate from a starting point that is their exclusive position. Witness the lack of progress with Iran. The GOP wanted to only negotiate if Iran prior to the negotiations stopped enriching uranium and promised not to start again which was the purpose of the negotiations.

It's always a successful negoiation if you have won the field before you start. The Democrats should just pass the Senate bill and use reconciliation afterwards. That's what FDR and Truman would do. Obama is no LBJ and no one is afraid of him.

When is this administration going to understand there is no bipartisanship bone in any of the bodies currently in the GOP caucus rooms.

Talk about condescending, go back and read that letter again. They were invited to a conference and to share their ideas on health care reform. That doesn't mean they get to set the entire agenda or constitution of the parties involved. If they need back up from other sources if shows a lack of pertinent and useful ideas. I am afraid their poverty of ideas is glaringly obvious now.

Posted by: sauerkraut | February 9, 2010 11:30 AM | Report abuse

A word of advise to the GOP. This Alinsky style trap disguised as a summit should be avoided like the plague. This bill isn't about health care or helping the people and everyone knows it.

Let the dems have full credit for this disgraceful tripe. Let them pass it through reconciliation if they can. If the GOP skips this summit.. the dems will desert Obama in droves and that will put an end to all this socialist crap.

The people are clear about not wanting the Obama admin who has yet to do anything right... taking over the private sector. You can undo as much of the damage as possible when you take back the congress in November.

Posted by: Straightline | February 9, 2010 11:29 AM | Report abuse

You know, this isn't funny anymore. They ask for transparency in legislation negotiations (as if the many on healthcare weren't enough), they asked to be included the creation of major legislation... And they ask that Democrats not talk down to them using words that they pretend they can't understand. All for what? For them to say no... I swear I feel like I'm stuck in the 3rd grade listening to Nancy Reagan give her Just Say No speech. America needs to wake up and understand that the old, white, non progressive men in this country would rather die crying and screaming no than than to help this President do The People's work. They are much better off if they just come out and say that they can't stand a Multi-racial man as their President. And they want nothing more than to acquiesce to the wants of Corporate America. I'm hopeful still that America will stand together and move this forward forward in such a way that we improve the conditions of the lower class, rejuvinate the middle class, and reform public education system so that our youth aren't left behind.

Posted by: Debonair31 | February 9, 2010 11:28 AM | Report abuse

So,you want Hopey and Changey do you? Ok,so
I give you lots of Hopey and Changey by
you just simply voting Messiah Barack Obama
Joe Biden,Harry Reid,Dicky Durbin,Speaker
Nancy Pelosi,Steny Hoyer,Mitch McConnell,
Jon Kyl,Eric Kantor,David Boehner out of
office then you got all the Hopey & Changey
you will ever need,my friends.

Posted by: sandy5274 | February 9, 2010 11:27 AM | Report abuse

Republicans need to stay away from this corrupt Bill, the American people have already killed it by electing Scott Brown who ran on the promise to be the 41st vote to kill it.

Obama is setting up the GOP and we best not take the bait.

The Democrats had months.......months to approve a health care plan with their SUPER majorities.

The reason why we don't have one is because of the fighting between moderate Democrats and the extreme left-wing fellow members........NOT the GOP

Posted by: allenridge | February 9, 2010 11:25 AM | Report abuse

Here's MY summit........THERE'S NO MONEY! THERE'S NO MONEY!
THERE'S NO MONEY!

WE'RE BROKE!
WE'RE BROKE!

BA-ROKE, WE'RE BROKE!
WHAT PART OF B R O K E DON'T YOU UNDERSTAND?

That's it.
======================
NO! You're BROKE! The banks, oil companies, Wall Street, Your leaders in Congress, Hollywood, Halliburton, Exxon, Big business CEO'S, YOU NAME IT, They're loaded! That's why you are BROKE! I guess you think your saving grace is you're a Republican and Obama's a Socialist. They've already picked your pockets!

Posted by: minco_007 | February 9, 2010 11:25 AM | Report abuse

Let's first bring Reid and Pelosi out of the closet on what they are continuing to secretly do to force the public on the HC deform insurance scam before the February 25th summit.

I agree with the Republicans that the public has "soundly rejected" both bills in Congress although the House bill is closer to what the people want than the Senate bill.

However, neither of the bills should be the starting point for this summit.

To make either bill the starting point is only further perpetrating the already divisive partisan steam rolling, by the Dem leftist leadership, on the public which the public has "soundly rejected".

It is like saying, "Let's commence with an evil failure and expect a good result".

Posted by: kwoods2 | February 9, 2010 11:24 AM | Report abuse

Reason 1) GOP have no ideas 2) GOP's money lobbyist will not be allowed to attend 3) They are fear that average America will see that they have no ideas. 4)GOP talking heads will not be able to attend. 5)GOP will collectively have to match wits with Obama. Fear

Posted by: Americacares | February 9, 2010 11:24 AM | Report abuse

This should be easy for republicans .... they sit down with the president and democrats and "DEMAND" a bill that will give the American people "The SAME Health Care" members of congress enjoy at taxpayer expense.

Posted by: The-Historian | February 9, 2010 11:17 AM | Report abuse

How on earth are you suppose to "negotiate" a health care bill when the starting point for negotiations is a bill negotiated by democrats behind closed doors? And while we are "negotiating" on camera, why not bring into the discussion the CBO analysts and Medicaid/Medicare analysts? Why just limit the so-called negotiations to elected republican officials in the federal government?

Methinks the administration wants to shape these proposed discussions as political theater where Obama's oratory is pitted against the mean-old-nasty republicans. It is quite simply a PR "stunt" using the republicans as props in the hopes of raising the presidents sagging approval ratings. This is most definitely not a serious attempt to hit the "reset" button on health care.

Posted by: deacon777 | February 9, 2010 11:17 AM | Report abuse

if their ideas are so amazing then let them showcase them.

Of course, they know full well that they have no ideas, and the only way they can continue their bizarre anti-American kabuki theater is to try to maintain the ILLUSION that they have ideas while actually producing nothing.

Posted by: John1263 | February 9, 2010 11:16 AM | Report abuse

Judas Priest! Let them be. They don't want to show up that's fine - we don't need them to get it done!Right now the party of NO is forgetting who they work for so drag them kicking and screaming or just do it without them. WE DO NEED HEALTH CARE REFORM NOW!

Posted by: SpotlessCrab | February 9, 2010 11:16 AM | Report abuse

So,let me be clear here,I The Presidente of
the USSA (United Socialist States of Amerika) dmeand you Republicans vote for my
Obamacare,or I will come campaign for you
and you will never get re-elected again!...

Posted by: sandy5274 | February 9, 2010 11:15 AM | Report abuse

Cowards, yes. Also self-righteous phonies. Pretend patriots.

Posted by: jimsteinberg1 | February 9, 2010 11:13 AM | Report abuse

It seems to me that if the Republicans have no new ideas then they must be satisfied with the status quo. The status quo just allowed Anthem Blue Cross to raise annual rates 39% - that rate would permit premiums to double in less than three years (oh yes, there was a $10,000 deductible too, so people are paying for a policy they dare not use except in a REAL emergency).

My question - Does the GOP represent their constituants or insurance lobbyists? Here is their chance to clarify that on live TV. I'll certainly be watching.

Posted by: shadowmagician | February 9, 2010 11:13 AM | Report abuse

This is all so predictable. The solution is for the Democrats to pass the Senate bill and do fix ups later. The Republicans have no good ideas and want to block reform for the sake of pure partisanship. If they fail to show up for the summit, the reason why will be clear: they are against fixing the health care system in any meaningful way.

Posted by: troisieme | February 9, 2010 11:12 AM | Report abuse

To the GOP Leaders,
Don't fall into the trap set up by Obama. This is just pure posturing and the excuse to keep blaming the GOP of been obstructionists and the Party of NO. Beware of the candy man! Regards, Pepito

Posted by: jrega67844 | February 9, 2010 11:12 AM | Report abuse

Here's MY summit........THERE'S NO MONEY! THERE'S NO MONEY!
THERE'S NO MONEY!

WE'RE BROKE!
WE'RE BROKE!

BA-ROKE, WE'RE BROKE!
WHAT PART OF B R O K E DON'T YOU UNDERSTAND?

That's it.

Posted by: mipost1 | February 9, 2010 11:11 AM | Report abuse

This summit is just a boondoggle, and anyone with any sense knows it. The extreme leftist Dem leadership, running the House and Senate right now, is so far out of line that Dems cannot even resolve issues with other Dems much less with Republicans.

If the Dems really wanted to do something and really want a health care bill, all they need do is pass the House version, but they won't even talk about the health version because it is closer to what the public wants, and what the Dem leadership is attempting to do is steam roll the HC deform insurance scam otherwise know as "The Planned Parenthood bailout bill".

The leftist Dem leadership are so far from the public will that they are having to steam roll other Dems and Republicans, and, frankly, even some of the Dems are tired of the steam rolling attitude.

In my opinion, the only option for a true health care bill is to enact a minimum provision- one similar to SSI with a payroll deduction instead of being paid for by other tax methods or robbing 500 Billion from Grandma and Grandpa's medical needs.

Posted by: kwoods2 | February 9, 2010 11:11 AM | Report abuse

Bring on the filibusters! Let the goobers stand in the Senate, blathering away, until -- one by one -- they pee themselves and collapse from the exhaustion of having to think and talk at the same time. Let America see what petty, small-minded obstructionists these goobers really are when dragged off their talking points. Sixty votes? We don't need no stinkin' sixty votes. Instead let the Party of No reveal itself as the Party of Moe (as in Larry, Shemp and...)

Posted by: WhatHeSaid | February 9, 2010 11:09 AM | Report abuse

The Republicans closed the doors to Democrats for years.

We voted in the Democrats, and now the Republicans are trying to hold the Democrats hostage by saying they are not being fair.

Get on with the people's work, Democrats! Because if you wait for these Republicans who are doing the bidding of big business (and pretending they are for the little guy), then you will be voted out too.

Show some guts, Democrats. Enact some legislation while you still are in office.

Posted by: kflet3 | February 9, 2010 11:09 AM | Report abuse

Being a moderate Democrat I used to vote and even believe in Republicans who backed common sense governance. But no longer, because of this HC crisis that is about to eat the United States. Do Republicans really think it is not a problem that they have to help solve? Do they really think 10% annual increases and millions not being able to afford it or qualify for it at decent rates is not a crisis they have to solve? Do they not care about the 35 MILLION Americans who are not covered at all right now?... They have lost their collective conscience and a real opportunity to right a major wrong. WHAT IS THEIR CONCRETE SOLUTION?

Posted by: jcluma | February 9, 2010 11:08 AM | Report abuse

Just like with the Conrad-Gregg (Republican Senators) proposal, the Republicans switch directions once again. They ask for something only to say that it's not what they want when it becomes a reality. This time, after asking that their ideas on health care reform be heard, they decide not to participate when asked. It's partisan politics at its worst. It's obstructionism for the sake of political gain. It is evident that they have nothing constructive to offer or they would participate. Instead they make excuses. The people of the United States are paying the price for the Republican attempt to cause the Democrats to fail.

Posted by: Lefty_ | February 9, 2010 11:06 AM | Report abuse

HOW WILL ANYONE KNOW THAT THEY AREN'T THERE?? THEY HAVEN'T CONTRIBUTED TO ANYTHING ELSE!!!!!!

Posted by: jamstolba | February 9, 2010 11:06 AM | Report abuse

Who are these "American People" the GOP keeps citing as against serious healthcare reform?

We elected President Obama knowing full well that his administration would do something positive for the American People.

We did not give the GOP a majority in Congress and rightfully did not elect a GOP as president.

Why does this minority keep railing and ranting about "The American People" who don't want healthcare? Maybe a minority of people with the BIGGEST MOUTHS don't want no stinkin' healthcare reform, but the MAJORITY OF AMERICAN PEOPLE WANT HEALTHCARE REFORM.

Get that through your thick heads, Boehner and Cantor, because you both look like hot-headed morons.

Posted by: nelson_stephanie | February 9, 2010 11:04 AM | Report abuse

So we are supposed to believe all can be made right with Obama's health care plan with just a half-day's discussion with the Republicans? Please.

And what's the big deal about starting all over again, with complete transparency, and with Obama's health care plan stuck into his pocket?

I mean, we have time to do it right; don't we?

ex animo
davidfarrar

Posted by: davidfarrar1 | February 9, 2010 11:04 AM | Report abuse

Alright! It's about time the Republicans took a stand against the democrats and their allies in the media. For over a year Obama and his henchmen have put Republicans in the back room ignoring their ideas on Health care. The press helped by refusing to print those ideas. Now he wants to have them sit under a podium with him looking down on them as a king to get a photo op. He already has told them he will not budge on the 2700 page hoax so what is the point of going. This is a spectacle not a normal committee debate. Obama is dictatorial Marxist who isn't taking over the country he has taken it over. Everyday he makes his own rules...this is United States of America not Center America. Stay away work on beating acorn fraud and win the seats in 2010...enough so we can impeach this tyrant and make an example of him and his party of misfits.

Posted by: tri5 | February 9, 2010 11:04 AM | Report abuse

The Democrat bill that was passed by the house and the senate should be reconciled and voted on first and foremost... If not thee bills must be removed from ever being considered before anyone should step into the White House for negotiations... The Dems are broken into several camps and can't even agree amongst themselves what is healthcare reform as proven in 2009...Why in the world would the other political party help them out while they shot themselves in the foot all year long....
It does appear that the Dems read the polls that show how uneasy a majority of Americans feel about health care reform..

This move by Obamba is to get is left wing base on board once again after they failed to hold a 50 year Democratic seat in left leaning Mass. That's all this is a way to get his base moving again..

As for me, I was relieved that the bill was finally dead. Kind of like the relief felt when it was clear that McCain was not going to be president....

Time to move on and not back.....Change will happen and I will be part of that change... The wingers of both parties are not capable of running this country..

Posted by: robinhood2 | February 9, 2010 11:03 AM | Report abuse

Judas Priest! Let them be. They don't want to show up that's fine - we don't need them to get it done!Right now the party of NO is forgetting who they work for so drag them kicking and screaming or just do it without them. WE DO NEED HEALTH CARE REFORM NOW!

Posted by: SpotlessCrab | February 9, 2010 11:03 AM | Report abuse

Republicans are soooo transparent. They never had any inclination of wanting to participate in Healthcare Reform. That is why they put all of their rules out for all of us to see.

At this point, Congress should pass healthcare reform with a strong public option under Reconciliation. Leave the naysayers behind. They are truly worthless.

Posted by: gilbertpb40 | February 9, 2010 11:02 AM | Report abuse

Republicans refusing to participate? What a shocker!

Posted by: mbstrong1 | February 9, 2010 11:00 AM | Report abuse

...and I could lead your country and your world...

...but first I would require the White Anglo Alpha Male Intellectual to stand naked in front of a mirror and look at himself for five minutes...

...and face the truth...

...and this is why I could never lead because truth has no place in your Earth Americas society...

Posted by: moon-base-alpha | February 9, 2010 11:00 AM | Report abuse

I am amazed at the number of hostile comments made towards the Republicans. I find it interesting that the Democrats feel that the Republican party has been obstructing the health care debate given the fact that the Democrats held a super, fillabuster proof majority. Not to mention that the final negotiations of the healthcare bill were being conducted behind closed doors.

As I read the letter it seemed perfectly reasonable to ask the Democrats who would be allowed to attend the summit. The Republicans want to ensure it will be a fair and balanced discussion, with people from both sides who have fair judgement for or against the bill. If the Democrats have nothing to fear and their bill is so sound, why not accept the Republican requests. If the Democrat bill is the best for ALL Americans, not just Unions, you will naturally arrive at the same conclusion again.

Posted by: sanmateo1850 | February 9, 2010 10:59 AM | Report abuse

Utahreb | February 9, 2010 10:42 AM has it right.

Let them sit in the corner and pout. Let the people see what cry-babies they are.

++++++++
They remind me of the red-faced 2 year old in the supermarket, crying and stamping his feet because he can't get his way.
Remember The classic Bush standard republican line - 'My way or the Highway'.
The repugs haven't abandoned their Bush heritage.

Posted by: bigbarto | February 9, 2010 10:59 AM | Report abuse

President Barack Obama went to the Republican’s town hall meeting and he answered questions demonstrating that he has backbone. I get the impression that the Republicans are positioning themselves like a nervous prostitute who is afraid to go into church to hear the truth because anti-Obama rhetoric may get upended by facts displacing rightwing propaganda before the television cameras. It is disingenuous for Republicans to look for ways to suppress the transparency of the bipartisan summit on health care that portends to offer coverage for 30,000,000 uninsured American citizens. Has the rightwing rhetorical enchantment forced the Republican Party into a corner where they must write off a whole two year Congressional session attempting to apply Former First Lady Nancy Reagan’s just say no concept to the operation of the US Congress?

Posted by: ShermanMiller | February 9, 2010 10:59 AM | Report abuse

I would like to know how the citizens of their respective district feel about the GOP stance. After all the house members are supposed to represent all of their constituents. Somehow I think party allegiance has trumped the desires of their constituencies. I for one plan on voting for 'the other guy' this year whether regardless of party since this Congress has failed to represent the people of this great nation, failed to lead, and failed at ideas. It seems to be a continuing pattern no matter who is in the White House. Compromise starts with negotiation, not with stonewalling a public debate. Maybe President Obama should televise the meeting so we can see who presents ideas and who simply crosses their arms and says no, or doesn't participate at all.

Posted by: bfjam | February 9, 2010 10:58 AM | Report abuse

Democrats should face facts. Republicans in Congress are NOT problem solvers. As for health-care reform: They don't want it. Plain and simple. A televised chin wag in which they look and sound stupid is not in their best interests. Republicans want a continuation of the kleptocratic health insurance industry. They are right about one thing. The Federal Government spends far too much money. Let's take a scalpel to the Pentagon budget. End the wars. Close the borders. Bring all the troops home from everywhere. Start using nuclear power to run our houses, office buildings, factories (if any remaining), and cars. Cut the Arabs off from our money. Congress took all that lovely money out of the Social Security Trust Fund and spent it on war. They promised to replace the money with revenues from the Income Tax. Now it looks like Congress's promise was empty. Put your retirement money into gold. Put the gold under your mattress. That way it will safe from Republican financiers.

Posted by: BlueTwo1 | February 9, 2010 10:57 AM | Report abuse

Utahreb, The Democrats have been doing what they want and look where it's gotten us. The majority don't want this massive bill, we need to start over with logical, and bi-parisan discussion. There is no reason to rush, rush, rush such a major overhaul of our economy. Let's take a deep breath, take our time and get it right. First,give us our jobs back and then we will get back alot of our health insurance that has been lost to the government stimulus plan that didn't work.

Posted by: drestarre | February 9, 2010 10:57 AM | Report abuse

To engage in reasoned discourse between two paradigms--in this instance, Progressive and those who prefer small government-- common ground has to be established or both sides must agree to disagree.

The Progs do not realize that the conservatives have examined the big govt. idea and found it lacking. The left simply thinks the right are unenlightened. Something as simple as the tenet "the end justifies the means" illustrates a gaping divide.

It is philosophically discordant for the "right" to support government growing legislation. Common ground? Each side would be making a deal with its version of the Devil.

Posted by: Babs7 | February 9, 2010 10:57 AM | Report abuse

Obama=The Great Confabulator
Democrats=Believers
Republicans=Awakened at last
Summits=Beer and Harvard profs.
News media=Suckers
Party on dudes!

Posted by: jobro2 | February 9, 2010 10:56 AM | Report abuse

Hey,
This rejection by the GOP gives the Health Care reform cover to go through reconciliation.
1. Create a buy in to medicare at 50 years old.
2. Allow the government to negotiate prices for medicare part D prescription drugs.
3. End the anti-trust exemption for the health insurance industry.
4. Create a new regulation through health and human services to criminalize dropping people for pre-existing conditions.

I believe all of these measures can be done as rule changes to existing law.
Look, the GOP has the right to stop such a far reaching , comprehensive approach to reform through delay and cloture votes. Fair enough.
The DEMs also have the option to do rules reform through peice meal legislation. If the GOP could force through the medicare part D legislation, so too can the DEMs.
The DEMs could also change the rules to the government employees health insurance exchange to allow a buy in there also. Time to git er done.

Posted by: ripper368 | February 9, 2010 10:55 AM | Report abuse

taking the position that the bills should be scratched, and that reconciliation is a bad idea, and, well, taking any position you want, is fine. Telling the president you won't show up for a negotiating session unless the president agrees to surrender on all those issues in advance without offering anything in return is absurd.

Preconditions to negotiations? The Republicans are acting like they are the Palestinians and the President and the Dems are Israel, or vice versa. Preconditions! give me a break. next we'll need the Vatican or the Swiss to shuttle betwenn the sides to negotiate the shape of the table.

The public is dumb, but it isn't that dumb. Republicans had better not overplay this hand.

Posted by: JoeT1 | February 9, 2010 10:54 AM | Report abuse

Republicans refused to offer any reasonable compromises during the Senate debate, forcing Democrats to come up with a bill to gain the votes available. It's kind of late for Republicans to go to the White House to complain about the bill they forced the Senate to create. Reading the letter, I see a lot of "Please create new opportunities for us to block the legislation" without any actual specific suggestions on how to improve it. This has gone on long enough. Pass the bill, see how it works, then Congress can come up with improvements on the new status quo.

Posted by: lartfromabove | February 9, 2010 10:54 AM | Report abuse

Bipartisanship is a joke. Just read these posts. If I am the republicans, I am in no mood to help the democrats out of their political mess. The health care issue (and proposed bill) is theirs. They own it - so why should the republicans help Obama put lipstick on this pig of a bill, especially since the starting point of the 'bipartisanship' discussion is the bill now on the table, with all its special deals for special interests (and special senators).

Memo to republicans - just say "no" and wait until this November when the reality of "we the people" finally sinks in with this administration. Let them use the reconciliation process if they want. Heck they have 59 senators and a huge majority in the house. If they cannot get their own party to get this pig-of-a-bill done, they have only to look in the mirror.

Posted by: deacon777 | February 9, 2010 10:53 AM | Report abuse

While there are plenty of loaded phrases ("job-killing" in the letter, the substance is unfortunately on the mark. If the purpose of the bipartisan meeting is simply to rehash the existing bills, which have more flaws than benefits, there is scarcely any hope for a bipartisan outcome.
Why should Democrats be afraid of a tabula rasa approach? Democrats still get to enact healthcare reform on their watch, and making Republicans put their money where their mouth is is a winning strategy.

Posted by: SavingGrace | February 9, 2010 10:53 AM | Report abuse

Unbelievable. What disgusting behavior. The minority party insists that as a precondition (!) for any discussion, the majority party has to concede everything. Even if they were actually in the majority, that would be outrageous behavior. What hubris! I'm pretty sure that the voters are smart enough to see through this. Boehner is amazing. Keep it up and see what happens to your predicted 2010 election sweep.

Posted by: rbharris50 | February 9, 2010 10:52 AM | Report abuse

Is anyone else tired of summits and "The Great Confabulator" on the small screen? Phony, balogna...three more years of this? Then again, I could be bribed for a few beers.

Posted by: jobro2 | February 9, 2010 10:52 AM | Report abuse

Good! I'm glad they don't need a spine transplant to avoid B-HO's Photo-Op Trap.

Posted by: RoseKelly | February 9, 2010 10:52 AM | Report abuse

The Republicans are profiles in cowardice.
The Democrats are profiles in incompetence.
The tea baggers are profiles in social pathology.

Is there nobody step forward and provide some sane leadership?

Posted by: BaltimoreCotls59 | February 9, 2010 10:51 AM | Report abuse

The Republicans will do all that they can to make sure that Obama fails. As always, in our politics, it's all about power. Nothing else.

Posted by: Sonny53 | February 9, 2010 10:49 AM | Report abuse

Leader John A. Boehner and Minority Whip Eric Cantor. Republicans have GOT to be getting fed up with the Whimpy, limping dog, whining approach of their leadership. Arnold, Gov. of Cal. comment comes to mind."GIRLY MEN" If you are sure you are right stand up! How long will the whining continue? The American people can judge for themselves. How can you Tea Baggers continue to defend this position? You all say Obama is an idiot and needs a teleprompter, so here's your chance. He won't be reading notes scribbled in his hand like Palin. You can nail him if you're right, so why the wimpy, whining? MAN UP! JEEZUS! You call yourselves Men? I can't use the appropriate verb but you all know what it is. And it's well deserved for all of you Cowards!

Posted by: minco_007 | February 9, 2010 10:49 AM | Report abuse

The Republicans have already seen that in aa one-on-one situation where they do not control the cameras, Obams wins tha PR war make them look much like the children they are showing themselves to be these days.

Posted by: hootie1fan | February 9, 2010 10:48 AM | Report abuse

President Obama should send a letter to every House and Senate Republican, asking them to attend a Summit to discuss THEIR ideas for Healthcare Reform which they say they have. President Obama should set the date, the time and the place...... he IS the President!! He should make it clear that he EXPECTS them to come!

Let the chips fall where they may. Let's just see who turns up. If the Republicans choose not to attend, THEY will be exposed as to what they really are.... COWARDS!

The Republicans appear to be afraid of Obama after last weeks "debate" in Baltimore where they showed their ignorance on many matters!

Posted by: cashmere1 | February 9, 2010 10:48 AM | Report abuse

CRY ME A RIVER. YOU CONTROL BOTH HOUSES OF CONGRESS AND THE WHITE HOUSE. IF YOU CAN'T GET YOUR BUSINESS DONE THEN BLAME YOURSELVES. REPUBLICANS ARE NOT GOING ALONG WITH YOUR PLAN TO BANKRUPT AMERICA. YOU GUYS CAN TAKE CREDIT FOR THAT ALL BY YOURSELVES. LITTLE LATE MR PRESIDENT TO BRING OUT CSPAN. YOUR A LIAR AND THE WORST POTUS IN HISTORY. MOVE OVER JIMMY CARTER. LIBERALS SUCK!

Posted by: Cobra2 | February 9, 2010 10:46 AM | Report abuse

Hispana(white guy)

This is typical repug rhetoric. Obama calls the 'pubs for a meeting, they accuse him of not listening. Do they think the citizenry are a bunch of morons? We'll take this stunt of theirs to the polls this fall, with lots of ads provided by George Soros--THANKS SUPREME COURT!

Posted by: blarsen1 | February 9, 2010 9:55 AM | Report abuse
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What is it? You don't think that a Hispanic and female can make any written comments on the matter? Typical stereotyping that will bury you. And no, proud of being a female Hispanic and one that can write to your utter shock!

Posted by: Hispana | February 9, 2010 10:45 AM | Report abuse

Last gasp desperation from the leftist whacko's. One more attempt to give Americans a big Alinsky. (as opposed to a Lewinsky)

Ever ask yourself why the want to pass this big, steaming, undecipherable pile so badly when they know the majority of Americans are vehemently opposed to it? You can be sure it isn't for the benefit of the American people.


One would think that the economy and jobs might be at the top of the priority list.

You watch, if this stupid summit happens, it will just be Obama telling the Republicans to to either get on board with the current 2000+ page pile of crap or get out of the way.

Posted by: Straightline | February 9, 2010 10:43 AM | Report abuse

Bipartisanship? A joke. If these House Republicans don't want to play, then take the ball away from them completely! Do what is in the best interests of the American people and forget bipartisanship.


Let them sit in the corner and pout. Let the people see what cry-babies they are. Take cahrge and forget trying to suck up to these no-nothings!

Posted by: Utahreb | February 9, 2010 10:42 AM | Report abuse

You liberals need to sit down and shut up. Republicans are smart enough to not fall for that game Obama wants to play. He knows he's in trouble and is grasping for straws. Liberals wanted nothing to do with Republican ideas until such time they see their chances slipping away. You played the game and lost. So who is the bully now? You FFFFNNNNN liberal idiots are a dime a dozen. Brain dead bunch of cry babies. Kennedy & now Murtha are gone. KKK Byrd is next. Seems the only way to get those idiot legislators to leave is in a coffin. We are all better off. Liberals Suck!

Posted by: Cobra2 | February 9, 2010 10:42 AM | Report abuse

The Know-Nothing Party previously titled "Republicans" has re-appeared in American politics after 150 years of slumber.

I don't know who Boehner and Cantor were referring to as "soundly rejecting" but I for one soundly approve the plan.

Look at today's news. Anthem Blue Cross raising premiums up to 39% in CA. Anthem's parent company Wellpoint profits soared to $2.7 BILLION in the last quarter of 2009. What else do you need to know?

Posted by: smileyzjohn | February 9, 2010 10:40 AM | Report abuse

i can see it now.
the gop shows up - the whitehouse lie maching says they offered nothing but the word NO.
if the decision has already been made by the dems then the gop going there only offers the dems a photo op of "we tried".
by not allowing meaningful discussion of health care reform, and instead only show the gop this is what we have take it or leave it - then dont go.

Posted by: infantry11b4faus | February 9, 2010 10:39 AM | Report abuse

Pahleeze. The GOP is simply posturing. They want to claim a victory at a time when they are the minority so they can claim to be the "stronger party". They've never cared about health care reform except to get rid of government subsidized health programs. It's the Republicans who've always criticized the very Medicare (even threatening to scrap it several times) that they now defend to support their opposition to the new Health Care Reform. Then of course the reality is, even their wealthy contributors who wished programs like Medicare were eliminated couldn't convince voters, who use and will need it the future, to follow suit.

The Republicans have made it very clear that they are the opposition not the team-mates. I think I like the old Washington now. Apparently, we aren't ready for change. We demand change, but we aren't doing it ourselves and our senators simply reflect that fact. Democrats and liberals don't trust Republicans and conservatives and always want to win; while Republicans and conservatives don't trust anyone different from them and they too always want to win....until that culture changes ain't nothin' Obama can say or do.

Posted by: callosumlink | February 9, 2010 10:39 AM | Report abuse

Republicans remind me of a bully that has a really hard mouth, but his teeth can’t back it up! They’ve been saying that they have great ideas for healthcare reform (ideas that were NEVER attempted to be implemented when they had control), and want to have them heard. Now that the forum finally presents itself, they’re cowering! Listen – starting from scratch is NOT the answer! If Democrats have good ideas in their plan, and Republicans – supposedly – have good ideas, then the common sense thing to do would be what Obama is proposing. A Republican “no-show” would speak volumes to the American people.

Posted by: BasicInstinct | February 9, 2010 10:37 AM | Report abuse

It's crystal clear at this point that Boehner, Cantor and their Klan of liars and thieves have nothing to bring to the party. They turn out to be substance poor examples of everything that was a resluglican majority in the congress - NOTHING.. They bring NOTHING.

Just yesterday, a resluglican strategist ADMITTED - on camera that they didn't believe in health reform except with more 'vouchers' which allows for non-insured to buy private insurance and tort reform. The rest - not at all.

These losers are empty. If they can't make more bribe dollars from the high;y profitable Health Insurance companies for their own pockets, they don't want ANY changes - at all.. They are USELESS!

Posted by: rbaldwin2 | February 9, 2010 10:36 AM | Report abuse

It gives the lie to the republican position that they don't get any input. And it IS a LIE. They won't come and discuss it? They know their absurd arguments will be exposed on TV. They will just keep their heads up their exhaust pipes.

Posted by: larry9 | February 9, 2010 10:33 AM | Report abuse

from reading this letter, the republicans don't seem to be confident in their stand on health care reform. seems like they are afraid of being blindsided by Obama which they continually refer to as a "empty suit" republicans are making all kinds of demands, like padding the gloves so they don't get hit so hard? is Obama demanding the same things from the republicans in this debate? If you have good arguments then what is to be afraid of? This is not a new topic, the republicans are afraid to go before the American people and debate all aspects and proposals concerning health care, they have only had a year to study and present ideas, and surely they know the subject well enough to handle anything thrown at them? don't ya think? afterall these people have been elected officals for years and years!

Posted by: ggrant9170 | February 9, 2010 10:31 AM | Report abuse

Republicans refusing to help get things done? Shocking! That's all they've done since Day One of Obama's Presidency because their only goal is to see him fail, even if it makes the country fail, too. I look forward to them PROVING to America that, no matter how much Obama tries to include them in the process and responsibility of governing, the Republicans are only interested in themselves and their backers.

Posted by: gregoryrobertson | February 9, 2010 10:30 AM | Report abuse


..and it is no surprise that the Republican Party would not want to dine with the black President...

…because the Republican Party Misery Machine has never been keen on helping its fellow man because it is so focused on helping itself to all the cookies in the cookie jar…

…and the Republican party of white elitists has never invited anyone except pimple-faced white males to their gatherings…

...and the fact remains that the late Senator Strum Thurman (R) of South Carolina fathered a daughter with a black house servant...

...and then kept it a secret from his constituents, many of whom are still in office, for his entire political career because his beloved Republican Party brethren...

...had not yet opened their doors to peoples of color yet like they have today with the likes of Michael Steele & Flip Wilson’s brother Joe (R) South Carolina...

...and in fact the Republicans just announced they are now offering equal rights to minorities and launching a new program to significantly increase their African American membership...

...a plan they have dubbed their 50/50 Initiative...

...with a goal of 50 black party members for every 50 thousand white...


Posted by: moon-base-alpha | February 9, 2010 10:29 AM | Report abuse

He's desperate. They should tell him to shove it where the sun don't shine. He's at 44% approval for a reason.
9 more months...

Posted by: civilemik | February 9, 2010 10:27 AM | Report abuse

I completely agree with the Republican leadership, we have to start over from scratch for this bill to be fair & balanced. The majority of people have spoken, we don't want this expensive health care bill that will limit care and cut lifespans of the elderly even shorter. The proposals by the DEMOCRATS will ration out care, give healthcare to illegals, harm our elderly, and allow the government to control at least 1/6 of our economy. That is ludicrous!!Who wants Democrats or Republicans controlling a huge chunk of our economy? There is a a better way to cut costs and help others get into the healthcare system with out causing harm to everyone else that has paid a lifetime into their own healhcare. All children should have healthcare access, the elderly shouldn't be pushed to the back burner, and the poor should be helped with Medicaid and similar programs. I just wish this president would put all his energy into the economy and jobs first. Since he has been in office, he has spent more of our money and more people are jobless. What's the deal with this, and so many are just sitting back watching as we lose our liberties. Wake up USA, there is a better way to improving our healthcare system and our economy, and the president needs to show good faith to our country and start over with a bi-partisan bill and put into place ideas from both sides and without buying votes. This is serious issue and it should not be pushed or rushed through!!

Posted by: drestarre | February 9, 2010 10:26 AM | Report abuse

Obama called out the Republicans to debate health care reform publically!

Who can blame the republicans for their reaction? after all, they are still rubbing their backside from the butt kicking Obama gave them last week! I wouldn't want to debate Obama if i were the republicans! Obama is a hard kicker!

Posted by: ggrant9170 | February 9, 2010 10:24 AM | Report abuse

The Chicken Little Republicans can go ahead and skip the summit if they want to.

Show the Nation and the World that the Chicken Little Republican Party is WORTHLESS!!

Go ahead and prove that YOU ARE POOR LOOSER!
Go ahead and prove that OBAMA WAS RIGHT!!!
Go ahead and prove to the people that you have no intention of doing anything to help the American people.
Go ahead and prove the Democrat's are right...The Chicken Little Republican don't want to see the American people prosper again.
Go ahead and prove that the Chicken Little Republicans care NOTHING about the American people!
Go ahead and prove that YOU REFUSE WORK WITH THE DEMOCRAT'S.

THE AMERICAN PEOPLE WILL SEE ONCE AGAIN THAT THE CHICKEN LITTLE REPUBLICAN PARTY CARES NOTHING ABOUT THE AMERICAN PEOPLE AND WILL DO NOTHING TO HELP THE AMERICAN PEOPLE.

Go ahead and prove that YOUR PLANS FOR THE AMERICAN PEOPLE WHO DON'T AGREE WITH YOU IS ENSLAVEMENT TO YOUR CORPORATE MASTERS!

Go ahead and prove that THE REPUBLICAN PARTY HATES POOR PEOPLE...THESE DAYS THAT'S A MAJORITY OF THE AMERICAN PEOPLE!

Go ahead and prove just how UN-AMERICAN THE NEW REPUBLICAN PARTY REALLY IS!!!

Go ahead and prove that THE CHICKEN LITTLE REPUBLICAN PARTY IS THE NEW AMERICAN COMMUNIST PARTY WHO DEMAND TOTAL, COMPLETE & UN-QUESTIONABLE OBEDIENCE TO THE COMMUNIST REPUBLICAN PARTY!!!

Posted by: imZandor | February 9, 2010 10:22 AM | Report abuse

It's time to remove the elephant as the party symbol and replace it with the Great Barrier Reef.

Posted by: kcooper35 | February 9, 2010 10:21 AM | Report abuse

Republikans need to realize that they are in the minority. And a very weak minority at that. They do not dictate the agenda.

And if they refuse to "participate" in governing, they will be an even weaker minority come next January.

Posted by: markiejoe | February 9, 2010 10:19 AM | Report abuse

Our country is becoming a joke. The entire system of government is a sham; and it is by design as was intended by the founding fathers.

Posted by: kevin1231 | February 9, 2010 10:18 AM | Report abuse

You know that regardless of what is in the health care bill, there is no way the Reps are going to vote for anything. My vote...put together a bill that includes everything the President thinks should be in it, take it to the Senate, then let the Reps filibuster it until the cows come home. Only then will the majority of Americans realize what obstructionists the Reps are, whose only interest is in saving the insurance companies and lowering the taxes on the super rich.

Posted by: RogerNoVa | February 9, 2010 10:18 AM | Report abuse

It continues to amaze me how these people of NO get Americans to buy into their line. They are only hurting the American public, but the public licks up their story of fear and taxes. The parallels of today's Republicans with the Hitler story in Germany is getting scarier by the moment.

Posted by: wendystevens | February 9, 2010 10:16 AM | Report abuse

I think the party of "NO" and the party of "NO WE CAN'T" should take a vote on this legislation now so that we can move on. The voters will decide their representatives fate come election day. We don't have time for all this childish bickering.

Posted by: blhudnall | February 9, 2010 10:13 AM | Report abuse

The Republican leadership are more agreeable if Obama sweetens the deal with a little war somewhere. It does not have to be so profitable as the Iraq war.

Posted by: wrock76taolcom | February 9, 2010 10:11 AM | Report abuse

I think the party of NO and the party of NO WE CAN'T should vote on this bill now so that we can move on. The voters will decide their representatives fate later. We don't have time for this.

Posted by: blhudnall | February 9, 2010 10:09 AM | Report abuse

When we have problems getting people together at work ,we promise them lunch and they come rushing..so maybe President Obama needs to entice them by providing some "pork" and maybe they will show up..

Posted by: notmd

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You are kidding right? There is already so much pork in this bill you couldn't add a slice of Bacon to it.

Kill this bill we don't want it. We want line by line bi-partisan reform that is clearly presented to the American people without 2000+ pages of undecipherable lawyer double speak.

The process that created this bill is the worst example of legislation in American history. Designed by leftist whacko's in secret with bad intentions for the American people.

Posted by: Straightline | February 9, 2010 10:09 AM | Report abuse

It seems that the Democrats and lefties all have the same prediction. If the Republicans do not do what they, the Democrats, want they will pay at the polls. Just the opposite is true. The Republicans want to do what the majority of people want them to do. That is slow down the Heath Insurance reform and the deficit spending that goes with it as the Democrats plan indicates. Somehow the Democrats seem to be trying to warn the Republicans that they will be perceived
as the obstructionist party and will be taken out of office in November. Why are you Democrats so nice to us? Why the warning? Or is your warning really a threat or just wishful thinking? We will take our chances and act as we think the people want us to act. That is called a representative form of government. Please stop trying to turn it into a dictatorship.
I do not believe the Democrats and, guess what, I never will.Your party has basically proved to be politics and power for yourselves. The rest of us be damed. Well that is not flying this year.

Posted by: nychap44 | February 9, 2010 10:08 AM | Report abuse

Once again Republican leadership fails to stand the test! What is Republican leadership afraid of? Why not show up? Why not try to sell their plans for health care reform to the public? Do you think that maybe Republicans will have to show the American people that they really don't have a viable alternative to health care reform? Maybe they will show the American people that Republicans have really just been blowing hot air. Come on, Republicans, you said you had an alternative...a viable cure for health care reform...show us...show the American people! By not attending Republicans just confirms what a lot of Americans believe that Republicans don't have anything to offer but that you don't what health care reform or our President to succeed.

Posted by: alesterp | February 9, 2010 10:08 AM | Report abuse

Obama should stand firm. All the Republicans want to do is to derail the entire process because "they will win." If they had any serious intent on contributing to this bill, they had the last year (and the previous eight) to do something about it.

All Obama needs to do is outline the benefits of the bill we have in place to the American people. Americans have been listening to the Republican disinformation machine for so long that they have forgotten that the enemy is really the inability to obtain health coverage and the mounting prices of the current system.

Posted by: Anglo_Rider | February 9, 2010 10:06 AM | Report abuse

Please God and baby Jesus, strike down all moron Republicans as well as their idiot followers.

Amen.

Posted by: unpluggedboodah | February 9, 2010 10:06 AM | Report abuse

Three Republicans and three Democrats wrote the health insurance reform bill, I saw the discussions on C-Span. Sure there were back room deals, that how things are in DC for both parties...ALWAYS. The Repubs have agreed not to support any Dem legislation about anything and not to participate in governing. They have twisted facts and thrown whining roadblocks into everything. It's time for them to turn in their paychecks and resign in dishonor. They were elected to work, not to sit cross-armed and protest the results of the 2008 elections. Go home Repubs, you are not doing your jobs.

Posted by: clairevb | February 9, 2010 10:06 AM | Report abuse


The GOP is useless and the problem with Congress. But being imbecilic traitors they have now proven to US voters they will only continue to play partisan politics. Thanks, your actions are greatly appreciated by the Democrats. And the GOP wonders why they are losers.

Posted by: AugustWest1 | February 9, 2010 10:05 AM | Report abuse

There is no reason Obama should listen to the people while he holds all the power in Congress.

Posted by: llrllr | February 9, 2010 10:04 AM | Report abuse

Republicans want to skip class because they've had all year to work their assignment and it's still not finished. Their afraid of getting dressed down in front of the world, so they choose to disappear like cowards.

Posted by: blarsen1 | February 9, 2010 10:04 AM | Report abuse

The Republicans: Politics Uber Alles.

Posted by: whirlwind81 | February 9, 2010 10:03 AM | Report abuse

The Republican Party cares of nothing more than reelections and regaining power. The interest of the people is light years down the chart, if present at all. This is all about the sabotoging of a Presidency and the racist, rednecks and Republicans won't stop until they succeed.

Posted by: SEADOGMB | February 9, 2010 10:02 AM | Report abuse

Republicans are happy to attend under a few conditions:

1) Scrap all Democratic ideas
2) Scrap the Republican ideas already included in the current bill (see Ezra Klein's article)
3) Only consider Republican ideas that don't stand up to scrutiny
4) Don't include those experts who can shoot down those ideas
5) Wear a t-shirt that says "Vote Republican" for the entire year.

See? They're not just NO ;)

Posted by: leftcoaster | February 9, 2010 9:58 AM | Report abuse

hunter340: so Obama spent the last year trashing the Republicans is your assertion. lets see...
-having the Prez put GOP amendments in the stimulus bill and then have no GOPers vote for it.
- Demint screetching about the Prez never acknowledging or even mentioning "War on Terror" whereas video shots of most of Obama's speeches show him clearly talking about this.
- the GOP puts forward a proposal with lots of support, when the Prez gets behind, they all vote against their own proposal.
- their supposed budget they were flashing around last year contained only policies, no numbers, backing up the supposed viability of policies. Policies by the way that have been proven not to work in the past.
- GOP pols that voted no to the stimulus that attended ceremonies in their districts touting the good effects of the very bill they opposed.
- Cheney bashing the Prez on national security issues where Cheney has no moral standing. Cheney is still fighting to keep his visitor logs secret, and had oil company CEO's for his energy task force. The Bush43 administration did more to kill the morale of agencies like the CIA, the FBI, and the DofD, with their outting of Plame, their persecution of low level grunts for Abu Ghraib while no high ranking officers were punished in any way.
- and if you don't think "Barack the Magic Negro", Hitler and Halocaust images at rallies, with plenty of inferences of socialism and facism, and marxism are examples of the Prez being trashed, then you are more partisan than even your comment shows.
This Prez is smart, he has given the GOP plenty of time and rope to hang themselves, so to speak, and they are doing just that. He doesn't need to trash the Republicans, their actions or inaction, speak far louder than anything the Prez could say.

Posted by: katem1 | February 9, 2010 9:56 AM | Report abuse

The GOP is just cutting and running because they don't have any new ideas that haven't been proven devastating to the middle class.

Hey teabaggers, you're all SO gung-ho on national defense, right?

Here's something to get mad about:

"Sen. Shelby has decided to release his holds on all but a few nominees directly related to the Air Force tanker acquisition."

White House spokesman Robert Gibbs said Friday, "If you needed one example of what's wrong with this town, it might be that one senator can hold up 70 qualified individuals to make government better because he didn't get his earmarks."
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There you have it.

Senator Shelby is keeping important positions in the Air Force vacant during our war on terrorism... because he wants earmarks.

Where is the conservative outrage on this?


[crickets]

Posted by: losthorizon10 | February 9, 2010 9:55 AM | Report abuse

I love all the comments about this "being a trap to make the republicans look bad". Is this what the party line has been reduced to?

If I were a part of a party that had sound, defensible IDEAS, I certainly would view this summit as a golden opportunity to get some strategic thoughts out in front of the public and more importantly, the President and certainly not a "trick" to make me and my party leaders look bad.

I thought you were better than that.

Posted by: Mikal1 | February 9, 2010 9:55 AM | Report abuse

Hispana(white guy)

This is typical repug rhetoric. Obama calls the 'pubs for a meeting, they accuse him of not listening. Do they think the citizenry are a bunch of morons? We'll take this stunt of theirs to the polls this fall, with lots of ads provided by George Soros--THANKS SUPREME COURT!

Posted by: blarsen1 | February 9, 2010 9:55 AM | Report abuse

Okay Dems. Get off your collective butts and move this thing over the goal line. The GOP has no interest in bipartisanship on healthcare. Period. First they wanted it all televised (which it was) and now when they have to sit there and explain their lousy proposal to the American people they run away. I didn't know that the GOP controlled both houses of congress and the presidency to the extent that they could actually tell the party in control to scrap its version of a bill.

Posted by: am1968 | February 9, 2010 9:54 AM | Report abuse

I agree with a previous writer-- the GOP needs to put up, or shut up.

After spending an entire year talking health reform, this is no time to scrap it and start over. For those who have not thought about it our current health care system is not sustainable. Not to mention its tied to jobs. Check the hospitals in your state, counties, etc. a whole lot of people, make their living working in the health care system. They too are in trouble.
The GOP throws cold water on the summit. Someone just needs to increase the temperature on the need for reform. Make the water, much hotter, never stop throwing it until all have a seat at the table. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qcSSdVsT4WY

Posted by: Victoria5 | February 9, 2010 9:54 AM | Report abuse

So much for our friends, the Republican Leadership, having respect for the office of the President.
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This President will earn some respect when he starts LISTENING to his opposition and the american people. Up until now he has not scored! And the people will let him know soon by the power of the vote! Simple as that!

And kudos to the Republicans for standing up against the gang that has overtaken the White House!

Posted by: Hispana | February 9, 2010 9:53 AM | Report abuse

Really Mr. Cantor????

I'm ready to move out of Virginia.

If the undistinguished minority whipit can't come to the table for an honest discussion of both proposals then he is no good to us as a congressman. The party of NO!!!

Go figure!

Posted by: cthemnow | February 9, 2010 9:52 AM | Report abuse

May the party of "NO" stay home and continue doing what they are so good at:
nothing!

Voters: The GOP are obstructing progress that is needed to get our country moving
forward. They do not want President Obama's administration to succeed because they want to play the blame game as
the mid-terms approach.

Put the blame where it should be and vote
these GOP obstructionists out of office -
they are continuing in the path of George
Bush and destroying America.

Posted by: Sirius2 | February 9, 2010 9:51 AM | Report abuse

Republicans like to talk big and call Obama names, but when the going gets tough, they hit the road. They've proved, once again that they're the party of NO and devoid of any ideas. Obama is being gracious at giving them a chance and they snub him. By asking them for their ideas is being bipartisan. It just goes to further prove they are more bent on obstructing than governing,

Posted by: blarsen1 | February 9, 2010 9:51 AM | Report abuse

This is the Obama I voted for! The Republicans are acting like a bunch of scared whimps! Put the cards on the table!

Posted by: ggrant9170 | February 9, 2010 9:49 AM | Report abuse

I am not surprised the GOP will skip the meeting. They could show up and propose what they like about the current bills and offer some new suggestions, but they will choose to say "no" again. This is their only hand because their suggestions for health care reform are non-existent. What a bunch of sore losers.

Posted by: rmk1122 | February 9, 2010 9:48 AM | Report abuse

One more sign that Obama is really failing to LISTEN is his attempt NOW at this meeting.The american people spoke loud and clear that Health Care is not the top subject.

He should be focusing on the economy and getting REAL jobs for the people in this country. But I think that he knows he will fail on this and his excuse is trying to revive this dead bill that the american people clearly rejected.

One certain treat I see is STUBBORNESS and LACK OF LISTENING.

But, of course, this is impossible in this totally ego-centric character!!

Posted by: Hispana | February 9, 2010 9:47 AM | Report abuse

When we have problems getting people together at work ,we promise them lunch and they come rushing..so maybe President Obama needs to entice them by providing some "pork" and maybe they will show up..

Posted by: notmd | February 9, 2010 9:44 AM | Report abuse

So much for our friends, the Republican Leadership, having respect for the office of the President. My how times have changed. Regardless, note how Cantor and Boehnor can't simply say yes, we want to meet and find common ground. November elections will find safe republicans out of office. Their sole policy is being obstructionists. What's obvious to the public but not them is, they're prancing around with no cloths on.

Posted by: jpt51 | February 9, 2010 9:41 AM | Report abuse

At this point I don't have much confidence in what Obama intends to do. I think this will be another political stunt such as his previous meeting with the Republicans and he thinks that this will work to his advantage. Many of us saw his theatrics deployed at that meeting and trying to bully did not work.

But more importantly: CAN HE LISTEN?

The american people has spoken quite clearly rejecting this health proposal and many of his policies. THIS IS THE TRUTH OF THE MATTER!

If he is seriously intending to LISTEN he:

1)Should put aside this bill and begin from scratch.

2)Insure that ALL parties with invested interested are represented such as a representative group of Republicans, democrats with various views, lawyers, unions, medical experts (not the ones we already heard), insurance groups, and most of all the american people.

3)To be done in a bi-partisan way means looking at all angles and insuring that the end result is a give and take that benefits ALL parties represented. This should be a step by step approach that the american people can digest.

4)The end result of this should be posted with ample time (1 week minimum)for the people of this country to see, examine and ample opportunity for rebuttals.

If Mr. President handles this as described above, I will give him the benefit of the doubt and look at him seriously. Up until now, he has been an exercise of major disappointment. Let's see if he can measure up! Bulling doesn't do, Mr. President! The results will be disastrous in November and later in 2012 and your one term Presidency will be solidified! Let's see if after all, he has the guts to stand up against his buddies!

Posted by: Hispana | February 9, 2010 9:37 AM | Report abuse

While the faithful republican denigrate the President of this country and by denigrating the President, denigrate their own representatives, there is still no substance to their "plan for healthcare." Start over? Why, so we can drag out the babble of misinformation and lies dished out by the posturing, pompous republicans? The ugly childishness of the republican party and its base is more than appalling. Truly the republicans are the most hostile tribe of white men and women. Not only are they lacking in substance, their lacking in ideas. It's another "no! we're not going play in your backyard until we own the house and the yard." That's intelligent? The republicans are petrified of being televised with the President because he ran roughshod over the idiots. The President knew the answers to their twisted lies and called them out immediately. Didn't you see how stiff, dead and scared the republican audience was? Anger, no, racist hate. You think the real people of the US don't see how vile the republican party is. The republicans run like the cowards they are and until their actions, their halting of progress, hit the people who are supporting them, the supporters go on blindly sending them cash for the coffers. Why? Because the supporters haven't a clue that they are smaller than a tiny spec of sand and that they are nothing. Empty headed, empty souled zombies who can't think for themselves. They honestly believe that after 8 horrific years, the republicans will save them. The republicans threw them down the proverbial toilet. They're still cashing their checks while their constituents are out of jobs! Amazing that this country has a host of ignorant lapdogs that follow the dis-eased republican tribal reps/senators, who lack substance, clout, intelligence but - they got the money in their pockets and every individual who blabbers and bad mouths the president is a racist/bigot. Bottom line. It's not healthcare, not finances, not banks, not jobs, not the economy, not wall street. It sticks in their guts that this President is smarter, more intelligent and more of a human being than they could ever hope to be and that he is Black/African American. What they despise is that which is shines a light on their dingy darkness. Republicans are not beneath any trick, any smoke and mirrors that they have been doing for the last 8 years. And still the blind walk into their fires...truly this is a most extraordinary time, to see and watch these loyal followers offer themselves as a sacrifice to the republican shambles of a party...

Posted by: marifano | February 9, 2010 9:36 AM | Report abuse

They should scrap these convoluted bills that benefit only the insurance industry and DEMAND SINGLE PAYER HEALTHCARE FOR ALL. What kind of society is this to let people suffer and die instead of caring for them? What kind of people run hospitals FOR PROFIT? Aren't the insurance big pharm executives rich enough?

Posted by: Too2much | February 9, 2010 9:32 AM | Report abuse

Republicans stand naked as cowards and cowards without real ideas. Based on what they say about the democrats plan, they should be champing at the bit to get in there in a televised session with the president & democrats and demonstrate how much better their proposals are. This of course implies that they know that whatever their plan is will be exposed for the junk that it is. They would rather wave empty pieces of paper at the president and claim that its a plan. If you vote for these guys you have only yourselves to blame. They are intellectually bankrupt, they have no answers and they only want power for the sake of having it.

Posted by: robertmerry | February 9, 2010 9:31 AM | Report abuse

Dems, let's be smart about this. You have the votes to pass healthcare reform, just not enough to prevent a filibuster. Pass the bill that you want and that the country needs. If the Repubs should decide to filibuster, let them. Sure, the country's business will come to a standstill, but at least the country will see who the obstructionists are. Although theoretically they could shutdown the govt forever, practically they can't do that. Nobody has that kind of stamina. So, at most, the govt gets shutdown for 30-60 days. And then this will be water under the bridge.

Do you remember the last time the Repubs shutdown the govt over a spending bill? It was the last straw that broke the camel's back for The Contract with America.

C'mon Dems. Let's play hardball. Call the Repub bluff.

Posted by: JoStalin | February 9, 2010 9:30 AM | Report abuse

"Will those experts include the non-partisan Congressional Budget Office, which has stated that the GOP alternative would reduce premiums by up to 10 percent? "

The GOP alternative will reduce premiums by 10 percent, in the meantime BSBC is raising premiums by 39 percent.

So much for the great plans to reduce premiums.

All in favor of the great 10 percent reduction say aye.

Posted by: aster2 | February 9, 2010 9:29 AM | Report abuse

Kudos to the Republican leadership for recognizing this "summit" for what it is: a trap to make them look bad.

Barry and his Chicago thug buddies have no interest in working with the Republicans. Or listening to the American people.

Posted by: thinker16 | February 9, 2010 9:29 AM | Report abuse

The 'know nothings' and 'do nothings' getting together for a 'tea party'?

When will the under-educated white poster children of the Republican party understand that their jobs are much dependent on health-care reform?

Posted by: shhhhh | February 9, 2010 9:28 AM | Report abuse

Make a stand Republicans!! A total new beginning is the only way!

Kill the current legislation that gives the White House total control of our health with the HBAC(Health Benefits Advisory Committee)!

Read the Bill everyone! It is dangerous!! Then burn it.

Posted by: jjcrocket2 | February 9, 2010 9:27 AM | Report abuse

Of course the republicans will boycott the health sumit. They had no intentions of ever participating. They have nothing to offer.The will never support anything Obama is for and on the other hand they have no idea how to come up with a health bill.If OBAMA becomes a one term president, a republican will win and the first republicans president ever elected after OBAMA will pass health care reform and it will be the same health care bill that OBAMA and the dems are trying to pass now.

Posted by: carolynlebeaufyahoocom | February 9, 2010 9:27 AM | Report abuse

This summit is nothing more than a Chicago style ambush!!! Rahm, Nancy and Harry are desparate. If they were serious everything would be on the table, no artificial time limits, minimum one week internet access to all agreed proposals and wall to wall C-SPAN coverage. They know the Nuclear Option for the Senate runs out in April. This is a ploy to try and convince the voters that this is why they will use this option.

This is too important to try and do in a half day and is an insult to the voters.

Posted by: Jimbo77 | February 9, 2010 9:26 AM | Report abuse

The democrats had the necessary votes to pass anything they wanted - anything. They failed now they want to blame Republicans. Am I missing something? Do Republicans have to salute and yes sir to anything the dems propose no matter what their core beliefs.

Posted by: wws35801 | February 9, 2010 9:25 AM | Report abuse

Lets face it, the Reoubs just want to delay the bill so they can kill it. They don't care that 44k Americans die each year due to lack of health insurance. They just don't want Obama to get anything passed.

Posted by: jjj141 | February 9, 2010 9:24 AM | Report abuse

Of course, Republicans will skip this "summit." It is a gimmick and a trap to embarass opponents of health care reform in hopes of rallying public support for a fatally flawed bill. Why would Republicans contribute to the resurrection of a bill they and the insurance/health care industry have worked so hard to kill? Trust me, they will not be embarrassed by Obama or any other Democrats calling them out for not participating. Like it or not, they have won and health care reform, at least in its current form, is DOA.

Timing is everything in life and politics. The Republicans smell blood in the water for the mid terms; Obama would be well advised to drop health care and concentrate on winning the battle for jobs and the perception he and his party are going all out on that front before November. If he and they are lucky enough to survive with a working legislative majority after November he can go back for another kick at the cat and, this time, truly reach out for some moderate Republicans and craft a bill himself and keep Nancy Pelosi out of the room in doing so.

Posted by: bobfbell | February 9, 2010 9:23 AM | Report abuse

Of course, Republicans will skip this "summit." It is a gimmick and a trap to embarass opponents of health care reform in hopes of rallying public support for a fatally flawed bill. Why would Republicans contribute to the resurrection of a bill they and the insurance/health care industry have worked so hard to kill? Trust me, they will not be embarrassed by Obama or any other Democrats calling them out for not participating. Like it or not, they have won and health care reform, at least in its current form, is DOA.

Timing is everything in life and politics. The Republicans smell blood in the water for the mid terms; Obama would be well advised to drop health care and concentrate on winning the battle for jobs and the perception he and his party are going all out on that front before November. If he and they are lucky enough to survive with a working legislative majority after November he can go back for another kick at the cat and, this time, truly reach out for some moderate Republicans and craft a bill himself and keep Nancy Pelosi out of the room in doing so.

Posted by: bobfbell | February 9, 2010 9:23 AM | Report abuse

The Republicants are cowards. It's really that simple. They are not willing to come forward with a "plan" because they don't really have one. They like the status quo and they are paid big money to maintain it.

Posted by: basket | February 9, 2010 9:21 AM | Report abuse

For Obama et. al., its about Razzle, Dazzle Em. Sure, he welcomes Republicans ideas but he'll throw them out as soon as he hears them. Let the show begin!

Posted by: 45upnorth | February 9, 2010 9:16 AM | Report abuse

My question is, who are these people here demeaning the President of the United States? Say what you will about his policies but to use these kind of pathetic insults about the president of our country is uniquely Un-American.
Posted by: pegzch | February 9, 2010 9:03 AM | Report abuse
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Yeh guys, no pathetic insults only good creative insults allowed here. How about this one. Now that Murtha is dead, he will no longer be wrong when he Teleprompter makes him refer to the Marine corpse!

Posted by: mgochs | February 9, 2010 9:16 AM | Report abuse

If they won't televise this "summit" on C-Span, the republicans should avoid this Axelrod Alinsky trap like the plague.

With the congress and Obama's approval ratings as low as they are and more than 60% of Americans opposed to Obamacare it make s no sense to participate in this nonsense.

And don't worry about being called names by the lock step liberals. In this situation most Americans are thanking God for the party of NO

Posted by: Straightline | February 9, 2010 9:13 AM | Report abuse

You know these guys get paid an awful lot to do nothing...come election time you will be voted out. We don't have the time, money, or patience for this game anymore.

Posted by: dworrell | February 9, 2010 9:11 AM | Report abuse

This so-called healthcare reform is little about healthcare, less about reform, and a lot about the Obama plan to socialize America. If the Republicans are smart, they will oppose Obama at every turn. Otherwise, we will turn them out just like the Democrats.

There will be a political bloodbath in November.

Posted by: csforst | February 9, 2010 9:11 AM | Report abuse

Democrats should ignore the noise coming from the do-nothing class clowns John Boehnor, Mitch McConnell and and Eric Cantor and continue to work to pass healthcare reform. The do-nothings have marching orders from their insurance company pimps and they will not allow any kind of healthcare reform for the middle class to pass. The do-nothings will obstruct, they will delay and they will sabotage and in the end they will do-nothing for working Americans.

The American middle class needs healthcare reform now, and Democrats should not allow the do-nothings to block this historic piece of legislation. The do-nothings will continue to emulate the class clowns Boehnor, McConnell and Cantor. Democrats should fight harder to represent the interests of the American middle class and ignore the boneheaded nonsense coming from the do-nothings.

Posted by: DCSage1 | February 9, 2010 9:10 AM | Report abuse

So, the Republican Party cuts and runs when offered the opportunity to contribute to the health care reform process?

How typical. This is the party that has no ideas that haven't already been proven devastating to the middle class.

They opposed medicare. They oppose virtually everything that would help working Americans.

Instead? They want to give your Social Security to .... WALL STREET, and they want to give more tax breaks to their corporate masters.

They work so hard to protect the profits of the corporate death-for-profit insurance industry, don't they?

And they use Fox "news" to spread lies, fear, and conspiracy theories to hypnotize the rubes in their base, and to pick their pockets.

Today's GOP: all they have to offer is fear and lies.

Posted by: losthorizon10 | February 9, 2010 9:08 AM | Report abuse

The president's offer to meet with Republicans and Democrats in a televised forum appears disingenuous; simply a publicity ploy to give the appearance of being bipartisan and open without really doing so. Obama has already preempted the discussion, according to press secretary Gibbs, in that the starting point is the 4500 pages of House and Senate bills already written solely by the Democrats and their lobbyists.Under these conditions, the Republicans will be heading into a trap where their ideas will be dismissed as not fitting into the basic plan while all of the pork and payoffs are likely to remain in the plan. The president can then claim that the Republicans are "obstructionists" because they don't agree with what he has proposed. A fresh bipartisan start in needed without the special interest payoffs but including such items as tort reform and allowing insurance to be be bought across state lines in the mix.

Posted by: mindsweeper01 | February 9, 2010 9:07 AM | Report abuse

The Evil Flying Monkeys from Oz have replaced the Elephant as the symbol of the GOP. If they can't handle a 1/2 day meeting with Obama, why would anyone think they're able to govern? (That was facetious. The real question is 'after the Republican/George W. Bush 8 year fiasco and national nightmare and the disastrous result thereof, why would anyone think they're able to govern?).

Posted by: BillAdkins | February 9, 2010 9:05 AM | Report abuse

Why beat a dead horse...or dead donkey in the Democrats' case.

Posted by: Jerzy | February 9, 2010 9:04 AM | Report abuse

Cancel the summit and ram it down their lying throats! You gave it a shot Mr. President, now get the cowards in your own party in line and take the hit!

Posted by: horace_simon1 | February 9, 2010 9:04 AM | Report abuse

So,Good For The House Republicans and that
only leads me to ask,if the RINOS and wimpy
US Senate Republican cowards under that damn gutless chinless Mitch McConnell and
two face Jon Kyl will take the hint and do
like the House Republicans and tell His Royal Arrogance Little Hugo Chavez Wannabe from Kenya Barack Hussein Obama to go to
Hell and take the San Francisco Madame Med
Botox Queen Nancy Pelosi, Slimey Steny Hoyer and Horrid Harry Reid with you,Obama..Scrape the Damn Obamacare and
Start All Over You Obamabot Losers!

Posted by: sandy5274 | February 9, 2010 9:03 AM | Report abuse

My question is, who are these people here demeaning the President of the United States? Say what you will about his policies but to use these kind of pathetic insults about the president of our country is uniquely Un-American.

Posted by: pegzch | February 9, 2010 9:03 AM | Report abuse

I look forward to the visual televised to all America-
A negotiating/conference table with Democrats on one side and empty Republican chairs on the other side.

If they won't be participating in the summit the voters will realize they have nothing to offer and will jettison them in November. If they don't join the process and only work to kill it then a new crop of representatives should be elected.

I look forward to the end of the reign of the "do nothings" that (if they get what they want then sort of) represent us.

Posted by: travelc2c | February 9, 2010 9:03 AM | Report abuse

A half day summit, WOW an entire half day. Obummer must be desperate for a photo op looking like he is actually trying to do something on health care. Should have done this a year ago before telling everyone "I won" and "get out of the way." Then, I might have believed he was serious.

Posted by: mgochs | February 9, 2010 9:02 AM | Report abuse

Obama just wanted a to make some political points, not really discuss true health care reform. By making the offer but basing it on the already rejected Democratic bill "reforms", he gets the Republicans to say no to the forum and then triumphantly says "See! Party of no!" When actually, the Republicans just don't want to waste their time arguing over Obama's failed proposed bills.

Posted by: Georgetowner1 | February 9, 2010 9:01 AM | Report abuse

For the record - I would like to _buy_ into a public option.

I have grown tired dealing with the Insurance Companies on my own. The insurance companies have only themselves to blame for that.

Posted by: thomp | February 9, 2010 9:00 AM | Report abuse

You liberals are sickening. The American people have spoken. Scrap health care reform for now. Your response? Cram it down their throats and call Republicans names for heeding the people's call. Wake up.

Posted by: shecallsmemoe | February 9, 2010 8:57 AM | Report abuse

Take on the Chicago mobster and punch him in the mouth.

Posted by: affirmativeactionpresident | February 9, 2010 8:56 AM | Report abuse

"We look forward to receiving your answers and continuing to discuss ways we can move forward in a bipartisan manner . . ."

Yeah - Let's talk about it some more.

Posted by: thomp | February 9, 2010 8:55 AM | Report abuse

The Republicans, rather clearly, do not want to participate in correcting the huge mess that they made under Bush or go against their health care industry buddies in correcting that mess.

Obstructionism is unAmerican in today's America!

An Independent

Posted by: aeaustin | February 9, 2010 8:54 AM | Report abuse

Hhahaha...I knew it. This has nothing to do with health care. This is self preservation after the ridiculous thumping Obama single handedly and off the cuff, gave a ~ 170 Republicans a very embarrassing and public "beat down" on cable tv for the entire nation to see.

As I said the day after, they won't be making that mistake again, despite how childish and whiny it makes them look.

Well done President Obama...you have the boxed in and looking like idiots, coming AND going

Posted by: Nosh1 | February 9, 2010 8:53 AM | Report abuse

When was the last time Republicans had a plan that addressed the needs of the middle class? Their only plan is to hand out ever larger amounts of money to the health insurance industry in return for campaign contributions. That's why they don't want to attend the summit. They don't want their plan (or lack thereof) to be publicly exposed. Moreover, they are scared that Obama will, once again, hand them their colective behind under the glare of television cameras, just as he did during his televised Q & A session with House Republicans ten days ago.

Posted by: Gatsby10 | February 9, 2010 8:50 AM | Report abuse

This is simple . . . set aside the two current pieces of legislation, throw out the public option, the single payer option, payment mandates, and all proposals that limit the free choice of personal medical decisions and doctors. Then, we may be ready to enter into preliminary discussions using a format agreed upon by the participating political parties. Anything less than this is a non starter.

Posted by: rplat | February 9, 2010 8:50 AM | Report abuse

The Dems are stupid. The middle class does not want either bill. Ram it through and in a few years when the effects are felt nationwide then no Dem will ever get elected again. Focus on jobs and the economy not health care that can come later.

Posted by: FLvet | February 9, 2010 8:50 AM | Report abuse

You're kidding - right? Republicans, afraid of a repeat of Obama's recent appearance at their televised concave, are afraid to do it again!! REPUBLICANS WON'T SHOW UP FOR THE PRESIDENT'S TOWN HALL!!!

After all their cries for 'transparency,' now they're running from it. They're afraid someone like Jeb Hensarling will get up and say something inane yet again or that Obama will embarrass Boehner or Tom Price. If the Party of No doesn't appear it will be revealed as the Party of No Solutions,too.

Posted by: BillAdkins | February 9, 2010 8:46 AM | Report abuse

"well, Katie' I have to do a better job of explaining to the
American Public,
what their Core Values, Are..."

Barack Obama'

if you are not insulted by this remark,
you are over medicated.

Posted by: simonsays1 | February 9, 2010 8:44 AM | Report abuse

Remember how the incomparably loony Pat Robertson said the earthquake was punishment for the "pact with the devil" made by Haitians in the 19th century?

Maybe Snowmageddon and now Snoverkill are cosmic retribution for the Cornhusker Kickback and the Louisiana Purchase?

Posted by: miglefitz | February 9, 2010 8:44 AM | Report abuse

Maybe the GOP should send Hopesy Changey Palin to debate in her totally meaningless babble. They can't stand on their issues and corporate-fed b.s. in a one-on-one debate, maybe she'll create some laughs.

Posted by: aeaustin | February 9, 2010 8:43 AM | Report abuse

we controlled the media,
by not answering any questions,
and putting out press releases,
which were covered as
Hard News by the Big Three Networks,
it was almost tooo easy.

todays press release:
Those rascally republicans!
they won't play rabbit for the stew!!
they are da party of NO!

thank you.
more 'news' at 6:00

Posted by: simonsays1 | February 9, 2010 8:42 AM | Report abuse

Republicans should simply laugh at this latest effort to demonize conservative thought. EVERYONE knows the left's playbook of deride, ridicule and harass anyone that does not agree with their beliefs. This health care bill is a joke and the majority of Americans agree. I agree with the thesis that scrap all bills and start from scratch. The republicans have argued these past many months that they have a multiplicity of ideas that will improve the health care situation and reduce costs. The democrats say they have the best ideas to ensure that ALL of those that are not covered are covered (well, at least the majority). Obama stated quite clearly that ILLEGAL immigrants will not realize any benefit from health care.

I say let's put this on CSPAN and hear the positive and negatives there and explanations why. e.g., tort reform, a republican argument and a democrat’s nay say. How much does tort reform REALLY cost? Bring in independent researchers and find out. Obama can claim these researchers as adding to his reducing the unemployment and maybe we can get to the heart of these various positions.

Instead, all we'll see are these congressmen/women & the president blowing smoke to all of us that they offer the best solution. All we need do is shut up and trust them.

Except for that small percentage on both the left and right, the vast majority of us DON'T trust them. More and more are calling for the removal of ALL of these congress people and starting fresh. The republicans will do this to a large degree in the coming primaries. We'll see if the democrats and 'independents' will do the same on the democratic side.

Posted by: Fred38 | February 9, 2010 8:41 AM | Report abuse

Let them skip it. It will blow up in their faces. The Prez' tactic of killing them with kindness is working. The more they rebuff his advances, the worse they look. They are painting themselves into a corner.

Posted by: Gatsby10 | February 9, 2010 8:40 AM | Report abuse

FOOD FIGHT!

It just doesn't get any more fun than this.

Posted by: miglefitz | February 9, 2010 8:38 AM | Report abuse

The Democrats are a bunch of cowards who can only write health care legislation during closed sessions and through bribes.

Democrats have no spine and if he tries to cram this through he will be a one term president.

Posted by: youngm1 | February 9, 2010 8:38 AM | Report abuse

axelrod: 'we need to attack, attack, attack!'
gibbs: 'attack? we need to decimate these
Frickin Retards! we need more media pressure on the republicans! and more palin is a moron slant!!!'
obama: ' can I get one day off, from campaigning and fundraising and media events? I havent golfed in two days!!!''
axelrod: 'Shut up and sit down barry'

Posted by: simonsays1 | February 9, 2010 8:38 AM | Report abuse

Obama has FAILED to build trust and confidence with the loyal opposition -- just like he has failed to do the same with the American public.

Only 36% of the population wants Obamacare, and he is attempting to maneuver folks -- including the 64% who do not want his 'dog's breakfast' -- into a trap.

If he is not willing to start over, WHY WASTE TIME DISCUSSING WHAT HAS ALREADY FAILED!

Posted by: wheeljc | February 9, 2010 8:38 AM | Report abuse

We demand a seat at the table and that the proceedings be transparent so that the American public can see what is really going on with health care reform! What? You want us to sit down and talk about health care reform on live television where it is transparent and accessible to the average American? But if we did that they might realize that our arguments are all based on lies about your plan and dont have any ideas of our own that would work! How dare you call our bluff!

Stupid republicans. Stupid party politics.

Posted by: johnqpublic1 | February 9, 2010 8:36 AM | Report abuse

The Republicans have become so obstructionist that they are unAmerican. They are really advocating overall American failure in their quest to destroy our President. And that is the real bottom line here, folks!

An Angry American & Independent

Posted by: aeaustin | February 9, 2010 8:35 AM | Report abuse

No! No! No! Just say "no!" This a phony gesture by the President. The Press Secretary answered "no" to each question. Of course, this is slicky boy politics. Weigh this gesture in a make sense context. What is going to be meaninfully accomplished in a half-day conference on a bill(s) that addresses well over a third of the U.S. economy? Com' on man!

Posted by: 040743 | February 9, 2010 8:34 AM | Report abuse

The 1,168,107 people who voted for Scott Brown are my Heros'. They and they alone saved America from certain doom. If not for them, this administration would have been free to pass what ever they wanted, when ever they wanted. Bills that would not only strip us of many, if not all of our freedoms, but also expand government beyond all of our worst nightmares. Never, has any administration in history, tried to walk all over our constitution like the current one is trying to do. But The People Have Spoken, and stopped the steam roller dead in it's tracks. The GOP has many simple solutions to the problems facing this nation, and now they can be heard......

Posted by: strykerjeff | February 9, 2010 8:34 AM | Report abuse

Blaming the Republicans for not passing health care is just dumb when the Democrats had the House and Senate and they could not agree on a plan.
The Republicans should contact Obama and make sure the rules are clear for this little political trap********
No one wants this massive expensive collage of bribes with spineless gutless Senators, back room deals with slimy companies and unions. This maize of proposed 110 new government agencies will be nothing but a cesspool of waste. We do not want government takeover of health care. This stupid bill offered no cost reform. It was a joke
Thank you Republicans for standing firm against this pathetic invasive bill. This is a complicated issue but not as complicated for us to forfeit our freedoms.
Our family does not want the Republicans to compromise. Moving to the wrong direction to compromise is still the wrong direction.

Posted by: greatgran1 | February 9, 2010 8:29 AM | Report abuse

Here is an idea, put the health care bill in front of the senate for a full vote then televise the filibuster. Let American's watch their hard earned tax dollars at work. Wasn't the Civil Rights Bill passed after only 54 days of filibuster?

Posted by: waxtraxs | February 9, 2010 8:28 AM | Report abuse

Pres. Obama should make that an issue and emphasize that Republicans are part of the problem, not the solution. Also, make an issue of Sen. Shelby's blanket hold on nominations. Do we live in a democracy or an oligarchy? It's time to end antiquated Senate rules.

Posted by: gtinla | February 9, 2010 8:27 AM | Report abuse

Dear Mr. Obama,

I am a Republican and do not want my congressman or senators to accept your invitation to a photo-op that is to promote your unwanted and poorly designed Health Reform Plan and an attempt to discredit the Republicans, who truly represent the people of America and their wishes.. By the way, what is your Health Reform Plan? Is it the Democrat plan from the House or the Democrat plan from the senate? You can call us Republicans all the names you wish. Makes no difference to us. "We shall fight on the beaches,
we shall fight on the landing grounds,
we shall fight in the fields and in the streets,
we shall fight in the hills;
we shall never surrender."

Posted by: nychap44 | February 9, 2010 8:26 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: cjgh | February 9, 2010 8:19 AM | Report abuse

More of Obama's lies and manipulations. Go ahead, Dumbama and you kool-aid Messiah loving Dumbama drones on this blog. Catch a clue! The American public doesn't believe your lies. The problem is the Dumocrats and their socialist agenda. We see through it.

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Are conservatives capable of forming an argument based on point-counter point or is it, like this really intelligent post, simply name calling and put downs. So far, that's all these guys seem to be capable of doing.

Posted by: dlpetersdc | February 9, 2010 8:25 AM | Report abuse

I am looking forward to reading the republican's health insurance reform bill that will make it possible for the uninsured to be able to secure access to the health care they need. Time to put up of shut up, republicans. What ARE your ideas? You know how to use the internet. Put your version of the bill online for everyone to read and then the public can truly decide which version is the best course of action to take. So far, however, all we have from republicans is lies and distortions about what the Democrats bill SUPPOSEDLY does. So now's the time to show that you truly have "ideas" that the American public wants to buy. Better get crackin'

Posted by: dlpetersdc | February 9, 2010 8:22 AM | Report abuse

More of Obama's lies and manipulations. Go ahead, Dumbama and you kool-aid Messiah loving Dumbama drones on this blog. Catch a clue! The American public doesn't believe your lies. The problem is the Dumocrats and their socialist agenda. We see through it.

Go ahead, try and blame the GOP for your own failures. We see through it! News flash - we don't want the government to do anything - you just screw things up - Yah for the GOP to prevent you morons from further wrecking the USA. We don't want Dumbana's health care nonsense and we are sick of you! November can't come fast enough. We are sick of your propaganda.

Posted by: cjgh | February 9, 2010 8:19 AM | Report abuse

And what is the point of the Republicans showing up? No ideas, no solutions, no remorse for the misery they have plastered on this country.

40 years of mismangement, bad leadership and disinformation. They have been the worst thing to have happen to this country. Their detrimental policies have undermined this country worst than two world wars ever could.

Posted by: BigTrees | February 9, 2010 8:18 AM | Report abuse

The republicans made such fools of theirselves, totally proving their irresponsibility, incompetence when the meeting with President Obama was televised, they want a scripted, one sided debate to hide their path of destruction. The president put out a hand to them and all he has gotten in return are fists.
They are well on their way to becoming our countries most dangerous domestic terrorists.

Posted by: kathlenec | February 9, 2010 8:14 AM | Report abuse

It looks like they're going to cut and run- once again- because they don't have any new ideas.

The GOP only wants to repackage the old policies that got us into this mess, and re-wrap their same old fear-mongering from 2008.

What a bunch of cowardly, lying corporate shills.

Posted by: losthorizon10 | February 9, 2010 8:14 AM | Report abuse

Well, the President has called the Republican's bluff.

If their ideas are so good, why should they demand that the present bills be taken off the table? Surely, if the Republican ideas are so good, public support for the present bills will collapse after an open and honest discussion? They should welcome the opportunity.

But the truth is, they realize that their ideas and claims cannot withstand the scrutiny of being aired in a venue where they cannot just shout down the other side.

So much for Republican calls for transparency ... it is a total sham.

Posted by: orrg1 | February 9, 2010 8:12 AM | Report abuse

I wish partisan Posters would start thinking. The Republicans are not anti-health. Bush passed a $1.3 trillion health plan in 2003--socialist, big government, pro-deficit Medicare. The best program since LBJ. Obama is cutting $500,000 from it. Nixon's plan was more liberal than Obama's. These TV meeting are nothing but blame-shifting. He should start over by bringing in Sebellius and give her responsibility. All his female appointees, including Hillary, are just symbolic.

Posted by: jhough1 | February 9, 2010 8:11 AM | Report abuse

I don't blame them. The President's intent was to make the Health Care Summit a televised infomercial for his unpopular health care bill.

Posted by: moebius22 | February 9, 2010 8:09 AM | Report abuse

The GOP is making the French look like the Spartans.

Posted by: CHICO13 | February 9, 2010 8:07 AM | Report abuse

"Leading House Republicans raised the prospect Monday night that they might refuse to participate in President Obama's proposed health care summit..."
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This was soooooo expected! Republicans have nothing BETTER to offer, so they’re threatening to not participate in fear of looking stupid in front of America (as if that hasn’t already happened at their conference in Baltimore).

Posted by: BasicInstinct | February 9, 2010 8:07 AM | Report abuse

Of course the GOP will avoid going to the Summit! After the fools Obama made of them at the Republican Caucus last week, they won't allow themselves to be exposed on live TV like that again!

They continually say they have Healthcare Reform ideas and plans but that Obama never ASKS them for their ideas. Well, okay.... now he IS!

DEAR PARTY OF NO: GO FOR IT COLD TURKEY INSTEAD OF SETTING UP WAYS TO AVOID IT! IT ONLY MAKES YOU LOOK WEAK!

Posted by: cashmere1 | February 9, 2010 8:05 AM | Report abuse

OF COURSE the Republicans will skip the summit!

They don't want to be exposed for not having a single idea that hasn't already been proven devastating to the middle class.

What an intellectually and morally bankrupt party.

All they have to offer us is obstruction, fear-mongering, conspiracy theories, and lies.

And you can bet, if they hadn't been invited, they'd be crying about the "lack of bipartisanship" in our president's style.

Today's GOP is nothing but a machine run by wealthy corporate interests who manipulate low-information, ignorant citizens to vote against their own interests.

Posted by: losthorizon10 | February 9, 2010 8:05 AM | Report abuse


Nothing was more revealing about this Administration than to recently witness Union THUGS exiting the White House after Barry (S.E.I.U.) Soetoro forcefully bent America over and allowed those disgusting Socialist Swine have their way with Her.

Barry is a deceitful hypocrite who is in bed, quite literally, with the most corrupt Lobby in this Nation. S.E.I.U. gives $60M to his campaign of Hoax and Charade and Barry gladly sacrifices America to their demands.

Barry is Toxic and should be avoided at every turn.


Posted by: jas7751 | February 9, 2010 8:04 AM | Report abuse

The following was posted by ggrant9170
"One thing Americans understand is COWARDS!
you will embarrass us
it won't be fair
we want to start over
your trying to trick us
we want assurances you won't beat up on us
your bigger than us
your smarter than us
come on Republicans and fight!"

Mr. ggrant9170, to their credit the republicans are fighting back. Can you imagine congressmen refusing to meet with LBJ when he requested it? What a joke Obama is. He calls for a dog and pony show on TV, and is told to jump in the lake. Now that is real power, he sure is showing them who the boss is. I just can't believe that I voted for this guy to be in charge of the whole ball of wax.

Posted by: gvelanis | February 9, 2010 8:03 AM | Report abuse

I love it how people are saying that the Republicans will not be there but that IS NOT what the article stated! All it says is that the House Republican leader RAISED THE PROSPECT of them not being there!

Posted by: warhawk911 | February 9, 2010 8:02 AM | Report abuse

The fact is the Nation has rejected the Scam this Administration and Lib Dem Socialist Congress tried to force on it. Hell, Barry doesn't even know what he is selling. He is weak. The Libs own this mess entirely. They have failed, screwed up, been rejected and if want to be taken seriously need to scrap their Snake Oil and start over with Republican input from the start.

This is a P.R. stunt from a failed President that only the likes of his gullible, naive Cult Members would fall for.

Posted by: jas7751 | February 9, 2010 8:01 AM | Report abuse

This is a scapegoat summit. Attend, and get blamed. Above the blame already being leveled. Some how Republicans caused Democrats to not agree on how to sneak a takeover of the health care system past us voters.

Posted by: thelaw1 | February 9, 2010 8:00 AM | Report abuse

Of course. The GOP wants to kill the bill and leave all the health care money in the pockets of the big corporations. And the gutless Democrats with a huge majority can't get anything done either.

Meanwhile, the hurting middle class continues to get stabbed in the back.

Posted by: tinyjab40 | February 9, 2010 7:57 AM | Report abuse

The GOP smelled a rat. The Democrats have already tried to blame Republicans for Democrats failure to agree on exactly how to take over the heath care system while claiming that is not what they wanted to do.

This summit invitation was engineered to give Democrats one more chance to blame Republicans for the President's failure to get Democrats to agree. With large majorities, Democrats should have been able to ram this down our throats, but they failed to agree and had to resort to back room deals and bribery.

If the Republicans attend, there will be all kinds of press releases from Democrats claiming Republicans wish to do nothing and that's the reason that the health care take over failed. My guess is that Republicans will not sign on to any of the socialist proposals put forth by liberal Democrats.

Posted by: thelaw1 | February 9, 2010 7:55 AM | Report abuse

Jeffc:Newsflash: the republicans LOST the election. They are the MINORITY.
If they don't show up, it's time to stuff reconciliation in their puckered *sses.
Hard.
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That will hand all the ammunition over to the Republicans if the Democrats tried to pull a stunt like that! The majority of the people do not want the bill that is before Congress! There will be a massacre at the polls comes November!

Posted by: warhawk911 | February 9, 2010 7:55 AM | Report abuse

One thing Americans understand is COWARDS!

you will embarrass us
it won't be fair
we want to start over
your trying to trick us
we want assurances you won't beat up on us
your bigger than us
your smarter than us


come on Republicans and fight!

Posted by: ggrant9170 | February 9, 2010 7:54 AM | Report abuse

Dog and Pony show by the Dem's. Look how nice we are we want the republicans involved. Of course, unless your ideas are what we Dem's want to include over and above what we demand, your ideas are not worthy.

The Republicans already know which of their ideas are rejected by this group. So unless they roll over to the Dem demands, why show up. Then again not showing up will give Obama more speach material to feed his teleprompter and give us poor slaves another 100 road trip champaign speeches.

My opinion, go to the D & P show, present your plan, have the Messiah reject it out of hand so the remaining population who haven't discovered this sham will learn the truth about this sausage developed in the name of reducing health care costs (not)

Posted by: frankn1 | February 9, 2010 7:54 AM | Report abuse

The Republicans must remain true to the lobbyists that put them in office.

Posted by: metroman76 | February 9, 2010 7:54 AM | Report abuse

sfcgcarrier ... I agree with your sentiments but your comment needs to be corrected. The World Health Organization ranks the United States 38th in the world for health care. 37 countries provide better health care to their citizens.

Posted by: burtonpaul | February 9, 2010 7:54 AM | Report abuse


It is not the nature of a Hard Core Leftist Ideologue to compromise. It is not in their DNA. Add to that a Radical Street Agitator and Barry would rather see America weakened, Nationalized (he does after-all disdain a Strong America) than to compromise on his deep rooted Leftist Agenda.


Posted by: jas7751 | February 9, 2010 7:51 AM | Report abuse

Obama can assure a level playing field.

Democrates show their ideas.

Republicans present theirs.

debate them.

see who wins!

Republicans have been finally called out by the President to fight!

Seems to me someone is CHICKEN!!!

Posted by: ggrant9170 | February 9, 2010 7:51 AM | Report abuse

I don't blame them really! I mean when you have a President who bashes you at every turn and then reaches out for bi-partisanship and is still bashing you....

Besides that, this is a bad bill! It should be scrapped.

Posted by: warhawk911 | February 9, 2010 7:49 AM | Report abuse

I love it, the republicans want a PRECISE AGENDA to assure them they won't get their butts kicked again by Obama!

Obama called out the Republicans to fight and now the Republicans want assurances they won't be embarrassed or showed up or whatever it is they are afraid of?

Republicans you do realize you are showing your stripes , right? If as you say Obama is an empty suit, NOWS THE TIME TO EXPOSE IT!!!

Posted by: ggrant9170 | February 9, 2010 7:48 AM | Report abuse

If it were a real summit, this article would be unnecessary. This is just another facade and "teaching moment" for the debater-in-chief - like in Afghanistan, he's already announced his intentions. Where is the presidential leadership we so desperately need?

Posted by: JoeTH | February 9, 2010 7:47 AM | Report abuse


Barry and the Lib Dem Socialists in Congress already lost this battle. This is no more than an Emanuel and Axlerod desperate P.R. maneuver. Everyone knows that. It is a joke. The Republicans should tell the Party of Deception to take a long walk down a short pier.

Posted by: jas7751 | February 9, 2010 7:46 AM | Report abuse

As a Texan we love a good fight! Obama called the Republicans out to fight and now America watches if they show up to fight or back down!

Its time to Put up or Shut UP!

If you really believe Obama is an empty suit what is to fear?

If the Republicans really do believe the health care reform is bad why not expose it for what it is at a public summit?

One thing Americans can't stand are cowards!

Posted by: ggrant9170 | February 9, 2010 7:44 AM | Report abuse

Reconciliation is the only way. Forget the Republicans. Obama knows that they're not going to cooperate under any circumstances. Why does he keep trying this bipartisan BS? What is the real reason? He probably wants the present health care bill to die and blame the death on the Republicans, because he knows the bill is a sellout to the Insurance Companies.

Posted by: jkarlinsky | February 9, 2010 7:44 AM | Report abuse

Finally, the progressives/liberals have an issue in which to sink their gums. Enjoy the oatmeal guys, it won't last long. The letter to pit bull Emanuel was a good one.

All things on balance it makes no sense for Republicans to attend an Obama love fest. The President needs to publicize a precise agenda, otherwise his record shows that he'll just throw that turkey of a health care bill on the table for "discussion." It's already been discussed enough and Obama knows full well what the Republicans' position is. Don't bother.

Posted by: SUBLIMEWOODY | February 9, 2010 7:43 AM | Report abuse

Here's a thought: present a bill that actually controls costs and isn't packed with crappy provisions and half-measures before you complain about people opposing it.

Posted by: charlesbakerharris | February 9, 2010 7:40 AM | Report abuse

Obama is calling the Republicans out to put up or shut up! The republicans don't get to call the shots as a minority party! Yes, they can and are killing health care reform. The republicans continue to say "obama is an empty suit" well if that is true, why not face him like a man!

Americans love a good fight, Obama is challenging the Republicans to a fight on health care reform, do they show up or back down? America is watching!

Posted by: ggrant9170 | February 9, 2010 7:38 AM | Report abuse

Cowards

Posted by: CHICO13 | February 9, 2010 7:35 AM | Report abuse

Well, they really are the party of No. They want things their way and no one else's way is even worth considering. Even the Democracts, when they were the minority, compromised. That's how we got into the Iraq War! Wake up GOP. Your days are numbered.

Posted by: mikemaggio | February 9, 2010 7:34 AM | Report abuse

The GOP are determined to preserve the more than $300 billion each year in profits and overhead in excess of the less than 5% overhead that health care systems in Switzerland charge. Profits alone suck up enough money to cover every child in this country with both medical and dental care. Except for the USA, no other "First World" country allows profits on illness and death. Our medical care system is the real "Death Tax", it kills 20,000 each year.

Posted by: harrisonppicot | February 9, 2010 7:31 AM | Report abuse

Obama is calling the Republicans out to fight! America is watching. One thing we Ameicans understand and love is A GOOD FIGHT! (:

Posted by: ggrant9170 | February 9, 2010 7:29 AM | Report abuse

Do not recall any whining from the GOP when Bush/Cheney had secret closed door "energy" meetings!

Posted by: ohwell1 | February 9, 2010 7:29 AM | Report abuse

Do not recall any whining from the GOP when Bush/Cheney had secret closed door "energy" meetings!

Posted by: ohwell1 | February 9, 2010 7:28 AM | Report abuse

Obama is literally calling the Republicans out to fight in the schoolyard and the Republicans are as any bully, all talk and no action!

Republicans like to talk Obama is an empty suit!! Soooooooooo if that is true they should be falling all over themselves to get this horrible health care reform bill before a public viewing?

Posted by: ggrant9170 | February 9, 2010 7:27 AM | Report abuse

Yes I have to agree with most of the reasonable posts. The Republican Party, the party of NO, is now so obstructionist that they appear unpatriotic. As was pointed out about Limbaugh many months ago the party would rather see the nation fail than the President succeed.

Shame on them and shame on any voters who support this non participation in democracy.

Posted by: arthurklein | February 9, 2010 7:26 AM | Report abuse

The statements by the GOP are clear. They want to make the meeting a Zoo where people will "talk at" each other and get nothing done. The problem for the GOP is of course they have painted themselves into a corner and have absolutely no way that they can offer anything on Health Care like they can offer nothing on Jobs, the environment or for that matter anything else without gaining the ire of their "tea party" base back home. Gridlock is where they are and they will never be able to move off of it.
If they actually did once again gain control of both houses of Congress they would still not be able to do anything except ask for more tax cuts and take more items off budget and the nation would go further and further into the deep hole of a depression.

Posted by: AZdave | February 9, 2010 7:25 AM | Report abuse

Our elected leaders have been working on this health care reform bill for a year and now the republicans want to trash it and start over? Democrates need to stop acting like Republicans are the majority party already, this is frustrating! If the republicans are so sure of their ideas why not in a public arena come OUT and state their ideas before the american public? because they don't want another butt kicking from Obama and they are afraid to go head on with Obama! That's why? The american people will be pleasently surprised at the good things in this reform bill, like no pre conditions, like it opens the door for every american to buy into the health care system at reasonable cost! I think the republicans could bring to the table Tort Reform and Interstate Insurance abilities! A little sunshine will get rid of the crapola in the bill and put in the good stuff needed! What is to be afraid of? The democrates are on the line too in this pubic debate!!! If the health care reform proposal is so bad what is to be afraid of Republicans?

Posted by: ggrant9170 | February 9, 2010 7:23 AM | Report abuse

Anyone, with an IQ of 1, knows the GOP/conservative elite in the country wants to keep the majority ill and unable to attain their potential. This is another form of torture they participate in. They are so afraid their base, may become healthy and realize what hypocrites they are. They have NO concern for the citizens of this country at all. And, all you backers, you are Sarah's son.

Posted by: linda_521 | February 9, 2010 7:21 AM | Report abuse


The house GOP has seen this movie already. After that fiasco in Baltimore, they are not to anxious to give Obama another opportunity to kick them in the @ss. They might dumb but they're not stupid, I hope.


Posted by: demtse | February 9, 2010 7:19 AM | Report abuse

I like my health insurance and I have zero confidence the feds can make the health care industry more efficient. Even the biggest believers in collectivism out there know the feds are amazingly inefficient and incompetent. My representatives are doing exactly what I want them to do......saying NO.

Posted by: hit4cycle | February 9, 2010 7:13 AM | Report abuse

Let's see...doesn't that put the number of politicians and experts attending this little session at about 5,000. How many days or weeks do you think it should go on to let each of these people make their statements? These stipulations should be exposed for the nonsense they are and this ought to be called out for just what it is...obstructionism and avoidance tactics by the Republicans. This should be framed for what it is and anything less than that ought to brand the WH once and for all as complicit in that obstruction. Let's hope they manage something a little more barbed than Robert Gibbs' latest searing comment on Sen. Shelby's outrageous hold..."silliness".

Posted by: dogdiva | February 9, 2010 7:05 AM | Report abuse

I agree we should start over on health care. We should now:
include a robust public option that may some day lead to an efficient single-payer health care system, repeal the antitrust exemption for health insurance companies, commit 100 billion dollars to building new, modern, efficient local health care clinics in poor rural and urban communities, and tax the hell out of corporate contributions to political candidates. If the Democrats have any spine and wish to move this country forward, they will declare war on republican intransigence, and let the chips fall where they may come next election cycle.

Posted by: sashab1 | February 9, 2010 7:04 AM | Report abuse

Would the Republicans kindly post their plan for health care reform so we can all see it? Let's review the bidding on this, so to speak: Let both parties put their proposals on the table, in a clear summary, and compare. (Of course that would mean the Democrats House & Senate would each have to put out such a summary.Republicans should have two chances, too.)
Then, maybe, since our Republican friends want this to go down on television, a series of debates, limited strictly to the content of the bill. Icewater bath for every debater who says "socialism" or "fascism".

Posted by: Socrates2 | February 9, 2010 6:56 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: postfan1..."Someone should tell Obama that bipartisanship is more than telling the other party what you intend to do."

Yep. Reminds me of when Shrub did this exact thing. Yep. Exactly. Amazing how short some people's memories are. The big difference now is that Obama isn't insulting, condescending, and challenging people's patriotism every time he tries to bully something through.


Posted by: swatkins1 | February 9, 2010 6:55 AM | Report abuse

Personally, I don't think it matters one whit whether or not the Republicans participate in this or not. It's nothing more than theater anyway. It's simply a way for Obama to try to A: show the Republican ideas as weak and unworkable B: show that he is bipartisan (ha)C: take another hit at chastising them for being uncooperative, D: all of the above. If I thought for one minute it was a serious attempt to include other ideas, and to take another, closer look at the ideas already on the table to see what could be changed, I'd be upset if the Republicans decided not to be a part of it. Unfortunately, from watching this sideshow for a while I'm much too cynical to think that's the case. Either way, the Republicans will be reviled no matter what they do so I say to them, follow your best sense of what's right.

Posted by: Lilycat11 | February 9, 2010 6:43 AM | Report abuse

Leading House Republicans raised the prospect Monday night that they might refuse to participate in President Obama's proposed health care summit if the White House chooses not to scrap the existing reform bills and start over."

Here's another way of writing this:

"Leading House Democrats raised the prospect Monday night that they might refuse to participate in President Bush's proposed war on Iraq, and Secret Energy Planning if the White House chooses not to scrap the existing Cheney/Rove led efforts and start over."

Amazing how the hypocrisy rules.Repubicans work to destroy government so that they can then show how wasteful and ineffective government is. Great plan, tea baggers.

Posted by: swatkins1 | February 9, 2010 6:39 AM | Report abuse

Surprise, surprise, surprise. The Repubs don't seem to realize they are a minority party right now. The "my way or the highway" days are over. After President Obama agrees to these terms, they'll ask him to spin around three times and throw salt over his shoulder and after that.....

Posted by: MNUSA | February 9, 2010 6:38 AM | Report abuse

"Leading House Republicans raised the prospect Monday night that they might refuse to participate in President Obama's proposed health care summit if the White House chooses not to scrap the existing reform bills and start over."

So....given every opportunity to participate, the repubicans continue being the party of "NO." This is absurd. If the Repubicans want to play their current hand, fine. My answer would be to not throw out everyhting we wroked for, and to hear their ideas. What? no ideas? Hmmmm......The party of "NO" has spoken volumes.

Posted by: swatkins1 | February 9, 2010 6:32 AM | Report abuse

Yonkers, New York
09 February 2010

It is quite obvious that in their planned refusal to attend the bipartisan Summit which President Obama is proposing, Republicazns leaders say they will do so only if President Obama "scraps" his own health-care reform plan!

They forget that the Republicans lost in the national elections of 2008 where President Obama won not only the electoral votes by a huge majority, but also the popular votes by a majority of 6 million votes!

Of course, the American people expect the Congress to consider the Obama health-care reform bill, which was a big issue in the last national elections--and not the Republican version of it [assuming there is one].

One does not have to be a rocket scientist to know, however, that Republicans are not really serious about health-care reform. All they're after is for President Obama to FAIL--and fail badly.

And you now what? They are now in a good position to filibuster any and all of President Obama's major initiatives for America.

Mariano Patalinjug

Posted by: MPatalinjug | February 9, 2010 6:29 AM | Report abuse

Obama and th eDemocrats have shut out th eGOP for over one year, and the only reason they now are speaking to th eGOP is because the CANNOT pass this bill on their own. They tried to shove this down America's throat by completely bypassing all Republicans, but they failed.

The GOP is right to mandate that any summit begin with no plan in place and for Obama to suggest the current Senate Plan IS the starting point is both ludicrous and dishonest.

If Obama REALLY want a Bi-partisan bill, he will throw out the current senate bill that is stuffed with pay-offs to Nelson, Landrieu, Labor unions and others and start over.

If Obama refuses to start over, the Republicans would be fools to attend this photo-op, Obama is calling a "Health Plan Summit".

Posted by: Realist20 | February 9, 2010 6:23 AM | Report abuse

Surprise, surprise! Republicans and "conservative democrats" are trying to ffuuckk over the president. Incredible!

Still, I am NO LONGER into Obama... I have no soft spot for war criminals, for those who commit crimes against humanity, for those who render, fire missiles from drones that destroy families, those who drop 2000-pound bombs on houses full of innocent women and children... in the name of killing "terrorists" who have not been convicted of any crime.

Look: I love Obama... as an idea... just as much as I loved Shirley Chisholm, or Jessie Jackson, or M. L. King Jr., or Castro, or Chavez, or Malcolm, or Marley, or a number of people who have and continue to represent the oppressed classes... still, I don't appreciate the violence, the reckless destruction, the collateral damage, the predictable accidents...

I love freedom... for me, for you, for everyone.

Posted by: jewishmother | February 9, 2010 6:21 AM | Report abuse

The White House spends a full year trashing Republicans and their ideas for health care reform.

The White House spend a full year promising transparency while subverting it.

And now, after a year’s worth of closed backroom meetings and midnight holiday weekend legislative sessions in which Republicans had severely curtailed ability to offer amendments, President Obama wants to invite them to a televised health care summit to talk about the GOP alternatives he said didn’t exist?

Do not fall for Obama's tricks, lies and deceit.

Posted by: hunter340 | February 9, 2010 6:17 AM | Report abuse

Funny how for rightards the bill gets longer every time they try to scuttle it -- it is now 2500 pages, which is no doubt what hanity said yesterday. And why exactly would you think that it should be a short bill? We spend 2.2 TRILLION that is 2.2thousnd billion dollars on heath care EVERY YEAR. Should we have a bil written on the back of a napkin so the average conserative can understand it? Should we not have words more than 6 letters so that ayatollah limbaugh is capable of reading it? Really? Why is the bill being lengthy and detailed a negative? It shows hard work and thought which would not be indicated by the 90 page republicon "proposal." The crux of their proposal is that if a doctor or hospital maimes or kills you or your children you can;t sue them for more tha 250k. Geepers guys, that'll fix everything!

Posted by: John1263 | February 9, 2010 6:12 AM | Report abuse

So --- the party that made sure we suffered another decade ad a half of the 37th best health care in the world back in 1993, when they scutled reform for short term political gain, wants the party with the biggest mandate we have had in decades to bow to their lame non-ideas which will condemn us to continue with 37th best or perhaps worse health care going forward. They need to put their cards on the table. Tort reform is not it, despite what ninnies like glen boohoo say. He has about as much validity on serious as asking your dentist to design a nuclear power plant. Time to put up or shut up goops. et's see the plans you have....oh that's right, you don';t have any.

Posted by: John1263 | February 9, 2010 6:08 AM | Report abuse

Not showing up sure beats standing with their fingers in their ears yelling "la la la la la we don't hear you. la la la la al we don't hear you" for 2 hours. It'd make great TV, though.

Posted by: steveboyington | February 9, 2010 6:02 AM | Report abuse

I'd say that at this point for the administration it's damned if you do, damned if you don't. Therefore, leave the offer on the table to meet under the bright camera lights next week, with name cards in place for the GOP representatives, and then announce that since they did not show up, reconciliation is the next move. Don't kick this old rusty can down the road anymore.

Posted by: jms3rd | February 9, 2010 5:58 AM | Report abuse

Bipartisanship is a two-way street. Republicans state, in their letter, that the Democrats developed proposals and now demand Republican support. However, it seems to me that it is the Republicans who are are closed-minded. If all the demands of each of their members are not met, no Republican supports anything. They are clearly focused on obstruction as the best way to bring their party back to power regardless of the damage done to the country.

Posted by: fredvsr | February 9, 2010 5:50 AM | Report abuse

Do not fall for Obama's tricks. He's a snake oil salesman. Medicare is already in debt. Soon, many more boomers will be using it and the snake oil salesman wants to steal half of its funding to give to the poor that can't afford insurance. In other words take from the elderly and give to the high school dropouts and illegal aliens.

Posted by: hunter340 | February 9, 2010 5:49 AM | Report abuse

What part of a 2500 page bill is barack going to put on the table and have any meaningful discussion in a half day meeting. That is idiotic to even consider. If he's going to host this charade there should be a published agenda. What are the 6, 8 or 10 primary issues that are part of ObamaCare? Certainly a community organizer should have a plan for a meeting. Otherwise this is a huge waste of time, nothing more than a photo op and the GOP leaders should respectfully decline to participate.

Posted by: mike9270 | February 9, 2010 5:36 AM | Report abuse

Obama proposed the half-day summit on national television Sunday, but in their letter, the two GOP leaders offer their suspicion that the president is not serious about opening a bipartisan negotiation on health care
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SUSPICION? Obama was NEVER interested in opening a bipartisan negotiation.

This was all for show because the man is only good at campaigning and totally inept at leadership and follow through.

Posted by: asmith1 | February 9, 2010 5:30 AM | Report abuse

On the bottom of each post it say's - REPORT ABUSE. I am reporting abuse, Republican abuse pure and simple.

Posted by: eaglehawkaroundsince1937 | February 9, 2010 5:25 AM | Report abuse

What do expect from the cowards after their last public flogging by our president? Only so much a gang of juvenile delinquents can take,you know. And just like the bullies they are, they run instead of fight. Ladies and gentlemen, you're rightwing in full glory...chickenhawks and chickensh!ts remaining consistant to the end.

Posted by: seakeys | February 9, 2010 5:23 AM | Report abuse

Republicans have nothing to offer. Their latest scheme (which none of them will say out loud) is to cancel Medicare altogether. That's save some money!

With no concrete plan, they can't afford to be present at an adult discussion of the problems we face. So they screech, lie, and score political points among their most ignorant base while opting out of governing altogether.

As Obama pointed out the last time they met (when he basically demonstrated what idiots they are) now that the GOP has 41 votes, under their rules of order, they are part of the government.

They will be blamed, just as they blame Obama, for the disaster that our country has become. They are traitorous, political weenies who have sold the country down the river in exchange for corporate payoffs and perceived short term political advantage.

They are a disgrace.

Posted by: Casey1 | February 9, 2010 5:14 AM | Report abuse

Someone should tell Obama that bipartisanship is more than telling the other party what you intend to do.

Posted by: postfan1 | February 9, 2010 4:57 AM | Report abuse


Brilliant strategy by the MINORITY. "Our Way or the Highway."

So, they've had their chance, now give them the Highway. . .

Posted by: kenhyde | February 9, 2010 4:55 AM | Report abuse

What a bunch of morons who do not have a clue about what government provided health care really is! They would rather pay a fortune from their own pocket than have the richest country in the world provide much better health care than they now have just like the other 19 major countries ranked ahead of us in quality of health care. Half the country already has single payer and they are not complaining one bit. Medicare, Medicaid, CHIP, the Veteran's Admisinstration, Tri-Care, and the Indian Health Insurance Plan insure 42% of the population! We don't need insurance companies making a profit at taxpayer's expense at all! How dumb is dumb?

Posted by: sfcgcarrier | February 9, 2010 4:54 AM | Report abuse

It's obvious why there is no bi-partisanship in DC and the Republican thugs don't want to get caught on camera when it becomes apparent that they are there to stone wall. This shows the world how the GOP has no answers to any of the problems in this country. The didn't have any while they are in charge and nothing has changed. They are utterly incapable of governence.

Posted by: mlipsius | February 9, 2010 4:53 AM | Report abuse

Obamacare, kneecap trade and tax the daylights out of the middle class, Virginia, Jersey, Copenhagen, the Olympics, and last but not least, the Commander of the SS Oldsmobile's seat in the people's republic of Massachusetts. Let Odumbo stand there like the utter failure he is with the burning tire of his 1st disastrous year hanging around his neck..

Posted by: wewintheylose | February 9, 2010 4:39 AM | Report abuse

Yea, it really makes sense to recover from an over-spending Bush administration by spending TWICE AS MUCH.

Nice logic.

Posted by: postfan1 | February 9, 2010 4:37 AM | Report abuse

To all those Democrats commenting today I would like to ask them that instead of spending so much time and energy critizising obstructionist Republicans, why not turn your incisive gaze to your own party and President, who after a year in government and with both Houses majority have not yet passed through the legislation in question. After this exercise let us read what you come up with, to what do you adjudicate this inability, obstructionism is not good enough when you have a majority. Enlighten the rest of us with your comments.

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Posted by: drmullings | February 9, 2010 4:34 AM | Report abuse

pospostfan1 wrote:

Seems like to me that the Democrats are the ones trying to harass everyone into accepting their seriously flawed plan.

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After 8 years of the Bushie GOP ramming every ill conceived piece of legislation down our nations collective throat, including starting a hugely expensive war of choice against a country that had NOTHING to do with 9/11, all the while spending our money like drunken sailors.
Yeah.

Posted by: jeffc6578 | February 9, 2010 4:34 AM | Report abuse

wewintheylose wrote:

Virginia, Jersey, Copenhagen, Massachusetts, the Olympics. Odumbo is toxic waste. He's sinking like the Titanic, don't throw him a lifeline..

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Odumbo?? Is that really the best you can come up with??? A REALLY stupid play on his name, the kind you would expect from an 8 year old???
You're exactly the kind of idiot who thinks Sarah Palin actually has something to say.

Posted by: jeffc6578 | February 9, 2010 4:27 AM | Report abuse

Seems like to me that the Democrats are the ones trying to harass everyone into accepting their seriously flawed plan.

Posted by: postfan1 | February 9, 2010 4:23 AM | Report abuse

What happened to Jobs, Jobs, Jobs? Does this guy have ADD or what?

Posted by: wewintheylose | February 9, 2010 4:22 AM | Report abuse

The GOP is a terrorist organization.

Posted by: DCGuyme | February 9, 2010 4:17 AM | Report abuse

Obama is looking to score political points, not to change a health care plan that has been cast in cement.

The only negotiating they care about at this point is trading bribes for votes in the House and Senate.

Posted by: postfan1 | February 9, 2010 4:14 AM | Report abuse

I say let the Democrats ram their policies down the throats of conservatives like Bush did to us for 8 years.

It's time for the Democratic party to grow a pair and dump bipartisanship right in the toilet. The GOP shows no mercy when they control both houses and the White House, as a matter of fact, they labeled anyone who didn't agree with them as "un-American, unpatriotic".....well, the tables have turned and now, any Republican who stands against the Democratic Party should be labeled as "unpatriotic, un-American and treasonus". If you don't stand with the United States of America and its President, Barack Obama, then you don't belong here.

Good Riddance.

Posted by: massmedia77 | February 9, 2010 4:01 AM | Report abuse


per Gibbs

"The President is adamant that we seize this historic moment to pass meaningful health insurance reform legislation..."

The president is out of touch with reality.

Please twitter Obama and tell him to stop using language that does not match what skills he has or the reality of what is needed.

If Obama wants to do anything about healthcare introduce legislation to put criminal sancitons on medical fraud for starters.


Posted by: JohnAdams1 | February 9, 2010 3:55 AM | Report abuse

"If you want reform, you have to address the high cost of health care. Anything else is just a political dog and pony show that will even FURTHER ENRICH THE HEALTH CARE MONOPOLIES."

Oh please, don't just be a bag of hot air...PLEASE tell us how Obama's plan will further enrich the Health Care Monopolies and the GOP, with their Tort Reform won't.

Seriously, Tort reform is a JOKE. You want to lessen the ability of someone, harmed by a careless physician, to sue in order to get their life back in order from grievous malpractice? Pretty soon, health care will be just like it is in the military. You just have to accept what's done with no way to protect yourself from quack doctors that have no idea of what they're doing.

Pray for your families because all these people care about is themselves. It's okay...no one will be there to stand with them when the health care companies are turning down their claims for life saving medicines.

Do unto others as you'd have them do unto you.

Posted by: massmedia77 | February 9, 2010 3:52 AM | Report abuse

The GOP will never, I say NEVER, be seen in an open forum with Obama again. He has embarrassed them enough already at the House Republican Retreat. They won't let that happen again....these are the methods of ideologues. They can't stand to have their "ideas" put to the test. It's hard to back up something that you just talk about, with no real proof to back it up.

Posted by: massmedia77 | February 9, 2010 3:44 AM | Report abuse

Virginia, Jersey, Copenhagen, Massachusetts, the Olympics. Odumbo is toxic waste. He's sinking like the Titanic, don't throw him a lifeline..

Posted by: wewintheylose | February 9, 2010 3:42 AM | Report abuse

Sorry, nowecan't, but Brown ran ON the Massachusetts health care plan while vowing to vote against the same exact plan (pretty much) for everyone else in the country.

Pretty hypocritical if you ask me, but then that's straight out of the Republican playbook. Throw sand.

Posted by: theRealCalGal | February 9, 2010 3:31 AM | Report abuse

The funny thing is that Democrats who can't read think they're getting health care reform.

Sorry, but the current plan is for some additional people to get insurance, while the health care system stays the same. It'll only cost a trillion, PLUS a lot of people being forced to purchase insurance, PLUS a lot of people will have to share their medicare. Some will get subsidies, but a lot more will have to pay.

If you want reform, you have to address the high cost of health care. Anything else is just a political dog and pony show that will even FURTHER ENRICH THE HEALTH CARE MONOPOLIES.

Posted by: postfan1 | February 9, 2010 3:27 AM | Report abuse

The republicans are so transparent it's unbelievable. Anything that the present adminstration is trying to do (for the good of this country), they'll block it, whether they use to support it or not. They want this country to fail for their political gain! Please America, wake up and call these bunch of losers out!

Posted by: kebred | February 9, 2010 3:19 AM | Report abuse

Obama and the Democrats "Do Not Need Republicans To Pass Their Health Care Bill".....
If It's Such A Good Bill,Then Democrats Need To Pass It Now..Screw The Republicans...Who Needs Them Anyhow??....
Make Your Day,Obama And Democrats.....What Are You Afraid Of???
Listen To Those That Put You In Office..Quit Your Dithering.....Just Do It.!!!!!""Cowards""!!!
PS;Obama Supporters,Please Call Your Representative's And Demand Health Care Now!!!!!...I Support Your Efforts To Pass Obama Care.....It's Getting American Voters Involved...

Posted by: sdavis4 | February 9, 2010 3:10 AM | Report abuse

Republicans are like a Communist block. If they can't get what they want, they wont play ball.

Posted by: paulnolan97 | February 9, 2010 3:05 AM | Report abuse

Something tells me they won't skip it, there is way too much downside.

"quitters, partisan, no ideas, afraid...."

about as good an idea as Gingrich shutting down government, on a smaller scale.

Posted by: yarbrougharts | February 9, 2010 2:50 AM | Report abuse

serban1-
I'm with you, but it looks like Obamas got the republicans over a barrel on this.
I'm laughing hard, by the way, at the idea that republicans could ever be statesmen.
What they are is corporate money sucking rim job giving shills.

Posted by: jeffc6578 | February 9, 2010 2:49 AM | Report abuse

The health insurance companies have gamed the system to maximize profits. It isn't about anybody's health. It's about them making lots of money. The way insurance is supposed to work is that insurance companies don't get to cherry pick whom they insure. The law of averages dictates they will make reasonable amounts of money when they construct the largest possible risk pool. Suppose every adult citizen pays insurance premiums according to ability to pay. That's an enormous risk pool. The insurance companies would be swimming in cash. There would be enough to fund a robust health-care system and to fund profits for insurance companies. Simple. Not a government take-over. Just a solution to a nagging problem. Of course it does mean healthy young people will have to fork over money they'd rather spend on other things. And it does mean the rich pay more than the poor. So the GOP would be against it.

Posted by: BlueTwo1 | February 9, 2010 2:48 AM | Report abuse

So bring in the repubs to rubber stamp the omnibus health-insurance monopoly act which even MA rejected by electing scott-41-brown. Uh, does Obama see Chicago everywhere?

Posted by: NoWeCant | February 9, 2010 2:48 AM | Report abuse

It took over a year with lost of help from Republican delay tactics to get the Health Care bill to the point where it actually past the Senate. All that was left was to reconcile House and Senate bills. And now Republicans put the condition that just to show up for adding some input they want the whole thing scrapped. How long does any one who supports these bozos believes it will take to put together a new bill? The Republican strategy is to run up the clock until the November elections so they can run on a platform that Democrats cannot accomplish anything. As a political strategy it may pay off but there is zero statesmanship in this. It is time for the Democrats to realize they are being played for fools.

Posted by: serban1 | February 9, 2010 2:43 AM | Report abuse

Scrap the bill and start over?
What part of "we don't care what you republican freaks want" don't you insurance company ass kissing conservative shills understand???
Mitch and the orange spray tanned Boner show up, they get made fools of.
Mitch and the spray tanned Boner don't show up, and they make fools out of themselves.
Either way, get ready to have reconciliation shoved in your puckered GOP *sses.

Posted by: jeffc6578 | February 9, 2010 2:22 AM | Report abuse

For a party that likes to talk big it sure seems like they must have nothing to say by snubbing the president with all these stupid conditions. Their statement reads like a ransom note. What a bunch of not only babies, but chickens as well. They like to talk tough until the president gives them a public forum to show what they got and they back down. Disgraceful.

Posted by: blarsen1 | February 9, 2010 2:19 AM | Report abuse

Scrap the bill and start over. Anything less is just a horse and pony show. Everyone knows it. Spare me the crapola from the white house about "bipartisan" summits.

What part of "we don't want it", (and we will vote every last one of you out of office if you shove it down our throats) doesn't this administration understand?


Posted by: playfair109 | February 9, 2010 2:16 AM | Report abuse

OF COURSE THE GOP WILL SKIP THE SUMMIT!

Be cause they have nothing to offer. NOTHING.

They have no 'new" policies that haven't already been proven devastating to the middle class. And even last week, they were proposing to... give your Social Security to .... WALL STREET!

How pathetic. What a pathetic excuse for a political party. All they have to offer is fear-mongering, loony conspiracy theories, and lies.

The Republican party is a party that needs to die. It has nothing to offer anyone except the super-wealthy and corporations.

Posted by: losthorizon10 | February 9, 2010 2:15 AM | Report abuse

Obama should not work with or consult with the republicans on anything. They have proven that they are not interested in doing anything good for our country because they fear the President will get credit for it. They'd rather see our country fail and collapse then let anything positive happen under Obama. The Democrats should toss aside the bipartisan fairytale and govern and legislate as if there are no republicans. He will get support once legislation passes and begins to be enacted. Ignore the republicans. They represent less then 20% of our nation. They do not matter. Stop insisting that they be included.

Posted by: dboz1970 | February 9, 2010 2:03 AM | Report abuse

These current moves of Obama and even his wife, who, all of a sudden, decided to appear on Washington week with Gwen Ifel, where the opinion about her is not favorable, speaking softly, look, of course, ridiculous, but also pitiful. I've seen different politicians. And I really and truly can't understand how Obamas can hope to revitalize any, even a little bit of trust in them now after this, so eloquent, year in White House. I also can't understand how they are going to survive in White House to, at least, the end of this current term with such obvious opposition to their presence there, which is felt now everywhere in the air.

Posted by: aepelbaum | February 9, 2010 1:53 AM | Report abuse

It's typical of the Rethugs that the first thing they do when Obama bows to their demand to conduct health reform openly in front of the public is to look for an excuse not to show up to their own dance. They are literally turning themselves inside out in order to be obstructionist. This "no" strategy is going to backfire now that they're even saying no to themselves.

Posted by: treetopflyer | February 9, 2010 1:46 AM | Report abuse

Typical Republican definition of "bipartisan", meaning they get everything they want. They wanted the negotiations and ideas out in the open, now they've got it - but that was never what they really wanted, was it?

Posted by: treetopflyer | February 9, 2010 1:42 AM | Report abuse

The Republican leadership consists of a group of lying, racist, hypocrites who are finally being exposed for who they truly are. They had their chance last year to influence the HCR bill and refused to participate. Dems should pass a good bill through reconciliation and ignore those a-holes.

Posted by: dboz1970 | February 9, 2010 1:32 AM | Report abuse

Obama isn't looking for ideas, he's looking for political cover.

The Democrats aren't offering to change anything substantial about their health care proposal. Like a half-baked cake, there isn't much to do about it now.

The best thing for Americans would be to scrap it and start over, but for political reasons, the Democrats don't wish to do that. They should be making health care less expensive and more accessible for ALL Americans, and not just a few people who aren't insured.

Posted by: postfan1 | February 9, 2010 1:31 AM | Report abuse

Look the Republicans are not stupid enough to get them selves in a room with Obama, a Health Care Bill and live TV cameras at the same time, not after what happened last time.
The simple fact is if they allow them selves to be “trapped” into such a meeting where they would have to justify their 5 second sound bite policies before the President and the Cameras not even Fox News can save them. Their problem is it’s a damned if you do and damned if you don’t kinda thing. And the thing is Obama can use it over and over again with say the Jobs bill or Financial regulations and anything else they try to obstruct with a straight party vote. The Republicans may yet rue the day Scott Brown won and the Democrats lost the 60-seat majority as now they can no longer “blame” the Democrats for not getting anything done, and at this time Americans want things done. Americans are fond of the “bi partisan” solution and if the President can been seen as reaching out his hand in that spirit while the Republicans keep slapping it away or worse offering their own plans and then voting against them if the President accepts them (deficit panel) their fortunes will quickly change and not for the better. On the other hand if they begin to cooperate even on a few things the Tea Party and Rush and friends will be enraged and could well sabotage any chance for meaningful gains in November, seems they painted themselves into a corner.

Posted by: notthatdum | February 9, 2010 1:29 AM | Report abuse

They won't even support their own proposals.

Of course they aren't going to participate in an open discussion of solutions.

The republicans are morally corrupt cowards.

Posted by: onifadee | February 9, 2010 1:25 AM | Report abuse

the republicans are right to be wary. obama is looking for momentum so that he can go to one or two republicans, give them a version of the cornhusker kickback and pass a bill without compromise. to gain that momentum, obama simply wants a photo-up where he can have a pretense of listening to the other side (depsite all the blatant straw man he would surely erect).

the democrats have learned nothing from the polls and election results the last 4 months, and so the republicans cant be expected to do anything but kill this bill.

unless obama comes out publicly and declares the old bills dead and specifies which parts of the old bill cannot be in the new bill else he will veto it then the republicans cant go anything other than sit back and let the democrats twist in the wind.

Posted by: dummypants | February 9, 2010 1:21 AM | Report abuse

Bravo for President Obama. He is proving that the corrupt Republicans have no interest whatsoever in bipartisanship and he is going to prove it on nationwide television on February 25. We all already saw how easily he handled the ignorant Republican know-nothings of the House in his earlier meeting with their caucus. Now, Boehner, Cantor and the other corrupt leaders are scared to death. By all means, let them stay away. It will seal their doom and ensure an even larger Democratic majority in both Houses of Congress come November. Take the bait, dummies.

Posted by: dsrobins | February 9, 2010 1:19 AM | Report abuse

By the way someone said the Republicans smell blood and are going after this administration foreign policies.

I REALLY WISH MICHEAL BLOOMBERG WOULD HAD NOT WON...I DON'T THINK HE WILL BE RE-ELECTED....

I CAN'T STAND THE MAN...PUT UP 100M OF HIS MONEY AND ONLY WON BY 5%...

Posted by: dove369 | February 9, 2010 1:17 AM | Report abuse

The equally incompetent misleadership of the Republicans such as Chinless Mitch McConnell,and two face Jon Kyl needs to be
replaced just like the Democrat Misleaders
Speaker Mad Madame Nancy Pelosi,Slimey Steny Hoyer,Horrible Harry Reid and Dirty Dicky Durbin and Barack Hussein Obama damn sure need to be replaced here and now.

Posted by: KarenKay2009 | February 9, 2010 1:16 AM | Report abuse

Mitch McConnell is another Larry Craig. If you get my drift.

Posted by: harryejones | February 9, 2010 1:10 AM | Report abuse

This will save some time that Obama was going to waste talking to them. Time to run them over with a legislative truck, not kiss their behinds. No more wimpy professor, time for Obama to grow a pair and lead the fight or else get out of the way.

Posted by: dolph924 | February 9, 2010 1:09 AM | Report abuse

Top House Republicans throw cold water on health-care summit...

Uh...excuse me Michael Shear...the only ones who are getting cold water thrown on them is the Republicans....

AND THEY COULD LEAVE NAT'L SECURITY ALONE OBAMA IS DOING A GOOD JOB.

ANDREA MITCHELL -
The Obama Administration did not make a lot of mistakes with the underwear bomber...And as much as I like you - You were wrong and looked inept. You forgot the American People looks at the media like they are damn fools when they go after this President foreign policy...

Can the media say...Iraq anyone?

CUT THE BULL....NOBODIES BUYING THAT OBAMA ADMINISTRATION SCREWED UP WITH THE UNDERWEAR BOMBER...

MSNBC NEWS IS GETTING AS WORST AS FAUX...THE FUNNY THING IS THEY THINK THEY ARE OBJECTIVE....NOT!

IF NOT FOR KEITH AND RACHAEL THIS CABLE STATION WOULD NOT EVEN BE IN COMPETITION

Posted by: dove369 | February 9, 2010 1:09 AM | Report abuse

It seems to me the Republicans are looking for an excuse to continue to stonewall and maintain their creditals as the "Do Nothing" party.

For a whole year now all we heard from the Republicans was that their ideas weren't being listen to. And it was the Republicans who wanted to debate the Healthcare issue publicly. Now they have gotten what they asked for and as usual, they vote against it. Apparently, these guys think America is only rejecting old Democratic ideas and not old "do nothing" Republican ideas. They nor the Democrats get it!!!! We The People are sick of the this "protecting my job" attitude that so many of these career incumbent politicians have grown fond of. The voting attitude of the average American today is...whoever is in is now out. And the new guys need not have a long political resume to get elected. This true whether the candidate is a Democrat or Republican.

Posted by: SteelWheel25 | February 9, 2010 1:03 AM | Report abuse

yup. chickenpoop. nuff said.

Posted by: eriklontok | February 9, 2010 1:00 AM | Report abuse

Cowards!

Posted by: onifadee | February 9, 2010 12:58 AM | Report abuse

What a phony Obama is. He wants Republican input, but with his garbage bill as a starting point that they even had to make deals with Democrats to pass. The first question from the Republicans should be, "If the senate bill is so good how come the house democrats won't pass it?"

Posted by: josettes | February 9, 2010 12:52 AM | Report abuse

Eric Cantor is an embarrassment to all Virginians. And his GOP brethren can either nut up and join the debate with the president or stay in their offices and pout at their own political peril.

Posted by: Saintbridge | February 9, 2010 12:52 AM | Report abuse

If Republicans, Democrats and the US Media cared about the ballooning US deficits THEN they would be for Universal Nationalized Health Care as they have in UK, Canada, and all of the European countries because in all these countries that have Universal Nationalized Socialized Health Care, either single payer like UK or Socialized like France, Germany, etc. European nation, where everyone gets health care for free, or little costs, for the Taxes that they pay, health care is taking about 9% of GDP on average whereas in US where 50Mill have NO health care and 2Mill go bankrupt each year due to health care costs, health care is taking about 18% of GDP, which you can read here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Health_care_in_Canada

So if Republicans or Democrats actually gave a SQUAT about the ballooning US deficits then they would be for Universal Nationalized Health Care and that is why Margaret Thacher's Conservative party in UK, Angela Mekels Conservative party in Germany, Sarkozy's Conservative party in France, Stephen Harper's Conservative party in Canada, etc. ALL are 100% for their Universal Nationalized Health Care. Because a real Conservative, would be for SAVING money while getting the Job done, which is what Universal Nationalized Health Care does in regard to the health care costs of the country which is one of its most important costs and investments.

So above brief facts prove what Utter Complete Lunatics Republicans in US are. You can read full details here:
http://anoox.com/blog/Real_News.35701

Or you can read a full report here why Universal Nationalized Health Care is only way to operate health care:
http://anoox.com/blog/UHC.34590

Posted by: RealNews1 | February 9, 2010 12:33 AM | Report abuse

Unless the Democrats can get it together, the Republican have nothing to lose by stone-walling and looking to pick up seats in the 2010 Congressional elections. With presumably the Democrats in charge and supposedly responsible for national policy for the past year (even though much of the public doesn't understand the U.S. Senate filibuster that gives the Republicans inordinate control over setting national policy, the Democrats will nevertheless be held responsible for the failure of being able to provide the leadership for passing major national policy. The fault for the downfall of the Democratic party will actually go to both the liberal progressive and the conservative moderate elements of the Democratic Party being unable to compromise and look at the bigger, long-term picture. If they are unable to set aside idealistic principles for long-term gain, the Democratic Party may lose its opportunity for any major reform for the next decade or two when the Democrats will try again after the re-energized Republican Party with the help of free corporate reign over campaign funding becomes the majority party once again.

Posted by: TabLUnoLCSWfromUtah | February 9, 2010 12:32 AM | Report abuse

The "do-nothing, Obama hating Republicans are destroying America. Senators McConnell, McCain, Cornyn, and DeMint plus Representatives Boehner, Cantor, and Pence, and others apparently were born without social consciences. The media and the public need to stop sanctioning the hypocritical behavior of these politicians and demand that they work with President Obama to solve out nation's problems.

Posted by: BooJa | February 9, 2010 12:24 AM | Report abuse

How can you be bi-partisan with Republicans and conservatives when they are foaming at the mouth talking about Marxism and the end of America? There's just no way to compromise with them. It is my opinion that these people are out of their minds. I hope that when Sarah Palin runs for President that most voters will agree with me on that.

Posted by: chickenhead | February 9, 2010 12:23 AM | Report abuse

awww, wook who's weading Pravda... the imaginary presidential candidate of teabag land! Say goodnight, Antonio...

Posted by: LABC | February 9, 2010 12:20 AM | Report abuse

Great. I expect President Obama to hold the summit on live television anyhow, complete with empty chairs for the Republican leadership. Let the whole country see who's interested in dialogue and bipartisanship and who can't be bothered to participate in government because they're too busy preening their feathers for Fox.

If the Republicans don't want to be called the "party of no", then they need to be willing to at least entertain the possibility of helping to govern the country. You can oppose legislation, but it's laughable to oppose even talking about legislation.

Posted by: jeffwacker | February 9, 2010 12:19 AM | Report abuse

I guess that Republicans don't want to embarrass themselves on TV again.

If they show up, they'll just say no to everything anyway. Even so, it'd be a nice momento to have a record of that.

Posted by: chi-town | February 9, 2010 12:19 AM | Report abuse

Apparently, Republicans don't want to embarrass themselves on camera again.

Posted by: chi-town | February 9, 2010 12:15 AM | Report abuse

Let us be clear. We have had no health care bill passed in spite of the White house, the house of representatives and the senate having been under democratic control for the last 1 year. Who is responsible for this? The democrats. They had a filibuster proof majority until now. They barely passed in the house as well, in spite of the huge majority there.
The bill as is framed is full of pork barrel money for special sweet heart deals by many senators. It is time we threw this bill out and started from a bi-partisan stance where cost reduction comes first and then how to fund the bill.

Posted by: upnorth | February 9, 2010 12:10 AM | Report abuse

If they don't show up, they should have a chair set up with the name of each no show prominently displayed and the camera regularly panning to show the empty side of the room....

Posted by: librarylady61 | February 9, 2010 12:09 AM | Report abuse

I certainly hope Republicans refuse to sign off on the jobs bill currently before congress like they have been hinting!

Posted by: Citi__Street | February 9, 2010 12:07 AM | Report abuse

The Hill should pass the best bill on health care that they can following the presidents lead to do it as if honest government is more important than the November election. Move on with jobs the same way.

If that means "scrap the Republicans and start over" then so be it. Go ahead Republicans, stick your fingers in your ears, cloae your eyes, and start screaming.

Posted by: glenglish | February 9, 2010 12:05 AM | Report abuse

Cluck! Cluck! Cluck! Cluck!

Republican "Kentucky Fry" Mitch McConnell and his bunch of loony birds!

This flock has already been roasted by the president. So, now its time to deep fry what's left of them!

Posted by: Citi__Street | February 8, 2010 11:58 PM | Report abuse

Much of what is in the current bill are concessions to Republicans. Much of what is in it incorporates ideas Republicans themselves proposed in opposition to the original Clinton health proposal. What they want is grandstand for political purposes and has nothing to do with benefiting the American public. They have become spoiled, illogical bratty children, just like the people who vote them into office.

Posted by: grantmh | February 8, 2010 11:56 PM | Report abuse

I wonder who will be running for the Patriot State of *Pennslyvanias seat Murtha could not take with him?

Posted by: Imarkex | February 8, 2010 11:55 PM | Report abuse

Being "reluctant" to participate is one thing, refusing to participate in a bi partisan overture is another. Even after a year, its still an overture.


If this is a democratic ruse for bi partisanship (as half America expects), let the fools charade play out for the world to see. Let intransigence masquerading as bi partisanship show its ugly face. And move on from there with the ten gallon white hat, otherwise its the black hat and trench coat from the sidelines while America wonders why a hand was refused when "finally" offered.


Obama is still our president and the Senate and Congress is still overwhelmingly democrat. America still wants Washington to "try" to work together. Scott Brown has not changed this fact so let it play out.


Americans are not stupid if its fake we will get it and dems will pay double at the ballot box in november. And who knows, maybe Democrats are half serious and Republicans can convince them the other half of the way. Git some shizzit done for a change.

Posted by: Homunculus | February 8, 2010 11:53 PM | Report abuse

The right wing has concluded that what Democrats propose is a big giveaway program in which insurance premiums are no longer paid. Instead general government revenues originating mostly in income taxes will go to fund health-care for all and especially for low income blacks and illegal aliens. As part of the process, they believe, their own health-care will suffer. They won't be able to retain their preferred physician. They'll be put on long waiting lists for surgery. They'll be advised to cash it in when they are old or very sick so as to save the government money. It sounds very scary. And it would be scary were that what is being proposed. Health insurance companies currently run a scam that is very friendly to their own bottom lines. Government rules state that they must offer group coverage to employees who enjoy a group health benefit under most circumstances. There's little or none of that pre-existing condition baloney. If Republican financiers kill the economy and kill the jobs that go along with the economy, conservatives blame Democrats for deficit spending and refuse to consider fixing health-care so that people who lose their jobs can retain affordable health-care insurance during their period of unemployment. Insurance is supposed to be a contract under which insureds pay against the contingency of ill health. Should ill health befall an insured the obligation is on the health-insurance industry to provide money to care for the sick. Under the current system, health insurance companies' allegiance is to their stakeholders: 1) executives, 2) owners of common stock, 3) bond holders. Anything left over goes to fund health care. That is morally wrong.

Posted by: BlueTwo1 | February 8, 2010 11:53 PM | Report abuse

Republicans probably don't like the 39% increase in health care costs for some in California any more then the Democratic party does. That however does not mean they should support a bill that probably would not help the heatlh care costs in California or anywhere else.

I was just reading an interesting report on the disparity in prices that were paid to health care providers in Massachusetts. Apparently the high cost of health insurance and health care in Massachusetts
are caused by this disparity in costs.

Although I am not for price controls in most cases, I should think states could set health care pricing guidelines which insurance companies or others could deviate so far from. That might be one consideration, but I do think it is better done at the state level if needed.

Posted by: win1 | February 8, 2010 11:52 PM | Report abuse

Congratulations Dims, Barry is down to 44% job approval among registered voters in two separate polls released yesterday and today: Rasmussen and Marist.

That makes you the minority not the Republicans. Massachusetts was not a fluke. America does not want Obamacare.


Posted by: screwjob2 | February 8, 2010 11:51 PM | Report abuse

Chicken.

Posted by: tslats | February 8, 2010 11:47 PM | Report abuse

Chicken.

Posted by: tslats | February 8, 2010 11:47 PM | Report abuse

We have tyranny of the minority, and the last 2 elections don't count.

Can you say fascism?

Posted by: realadult | February 8, 2010 11:45 PM | Report abuse

From the posts here, sounds like the liberals want the Republicans to show up and the conservatives believe a boycott is in order. Let Obama and his Congressional Majority push it through and take 100% of the credit...if Obozo can find 51 Senators who are willing to literally drink the Kool-Aid for Obamacare.

Posted by: JCM-51 | February 8, 2010 11:45 PM | Report abuse

As we can see from the comments here, the only people who continue to support Obama and his Marxist scams are his comrades and operatives, and those who have been brainwashed (dumbed down) by a substandard and politicized education and a complicit media, as per the warnings of Soviet defector Yuri Bezmenov.

In 1985, Bezmenov warned us that our enemies were working hard at brainwashing us and would succeed if we did not defend our principles: http://www.dailymotion.com/video/k6KUDv1wzraWhwlBt1

The dumbed down are obviously unable to understand that Obama's scams, including Obamacare and cap and trade, have as their main objective “the American descent into Marxism,” which “is happening with breath taking speed, against the back drop of a passive, hapless sheeple…” http://english.pravda.ru/opinion/columnists/107459-american_capitalism-0

Fortunately, as we can see now, most Americans have waken up and wised up! Most Americans are NOT sheeple! Most Americans are ready to defend their FREEDOM and the freedom of their children and grandchildren from the abomination of Obama's scams, which lead only to socialism/Marxism and the slavery, poverty, corruption and despair that socialism/Marxism entails.

Posted by: AntonioSosa | February 8, 2010 11:43 PM | Report abuse

And what does the GOP Leaders(?) think of the 39% increase that Blue Cross just put out? They don't care. They don't care. They don't care. They don't care. They don't care. They don't care. They don't care. They don't care. They don't care. They don't care. They don't care. They don't care. They don't care. They don't care. They don't care. They don't care. They don't care. They don't care. They don't care. They don't care.

Posted by: paris1969 | February 8, 2010 11:42 PM | Report abuse

They do not have the votes to stuff anything down our throats.American Patriots will run them down with the Freedom Waggon if they try.These bills are as Unconstitutional as Obama or whatever his real name is.

Posted by: Imarkex | February 8, 2010 11:41 PM | Report abuse


Bipartisanship:

We've baked a cake and frosted it. Tell us what color sprinkles you would like to put on top and we'll decide whether to include them.

Posted by: WylieD | February 8, 2010 11:39 PM | Report abuse

kentuckywoman2, there's NOTHING Christian or Moral about Marxist SCAMS like Obamacare!

As a matter of fact, The “help-the-poor” Obamacare SCAM is based on Black Liberation Theology, which Obama professes, and which is Marxist, anti-Christian, and anti-American.

Using scams like the Obamacare scam, the Castro brothers transformed an imperfect but happy and prosperous island into a GULAG of abject misery, where the only hope for most is being able to escape.

They also infected their Marxist virus to other countries (Venezuela, Bolivia, Ecuador, Nicaragua...), causing tremendous suffering everywhere.

The Castro brothers have probably caused more suffering than Hitler, and now Obama is working hard to spread their virus to the U.S.

Where will our children and grandchildren be able to escape if Obama succeeds in transforming the U.S. into another Cuba?

Posted by: AntonioSosa | February 8, 2010 11:37 PM | Report abuse

Obama was hoping to ask the Republicans the health care equivalent of "when did you stop beating your wife?" They would be fools to walk into that trap.

They have nothing to lose and everything to gain by insisting that Obama start the discussion with an equal exchange of ideas and ideals.

Posted by: pkhenry | February 8, 2010 11:36 PM | Report abuse

Barry the incompetent boob Obama owns Obamacare. It is Barry's mess. Why would Republican legislators want to grab onto that tar baby? Obama is already a lame duck president after just one year in office.

Let the Democrats keep Obamacare the election is now just 266 days away.

Posted by: screwjob2 | February 8, 2010 11:35 PM | Report abuse

i take it that all you denouncing the obamacare socialist/marxist/communist/hitler/stalin/oogidyboodigidy gubmint welfare state have all declined and returned your social security checks, your v.a. benefits, your pension funds.

oh. you haven't? color me thoroughly unsurprised.

Posted by: mycomment | February 8, 2010 11:35 PM | Report abuse

Whine, pout and obstruct.

It's the Republican way.

And that the Republicans have been given a second chance to participate, and now that they have spat on this second chance in public, it's time for the nuclear option.

And the Democrats should now use it with a completely clear conscience.

Posted by: Ms_Morgan | February 8, 2010 11:32 PM | Report abuse

The health care insurance "crisis" was artificially created! We had problems, yes, but not a crisis! Obama and his comrades created a "crisis," just like Hugo Chavez and the rest of the Marxist thugs in Latin America create "crises" to justify taking over and enslaving people. By the way, Hugo Chavez has just declared a new “crisis,” this time an “energy crisis” to justify his further enslaving Venezuelans.

Obama and his comrades worked hard on "reducing the credibility of the health insurance industry and focusing on the failure of private health insurance.” They later BRIBED insurance companies at our expense, but the demonizing and vilifying of the insurance industry was obvious. They took advantage of the fact that many of us have issues with insurance companies to manipulate us into supporting their scam.

We may have issues with insurance companies, but they are certainly NOT our main problem. Our main problem is Obama and his comrades, bent of forcing us to swallow a Marxist scam that would destroy our health care, our economy, our freedoms and our country.

Posted by: AntonioSosa | February 8, 2010 11:32 PM | Report abuse

Republican official response to the President proposal for public forum debate on health care! After last week events, we are scared "Sh^less" going one on one against this president in any open forum debate!

Posted by: Citi__Street | February 8, 2010 11:32 PM | Report abuse

Screw the immoral, un-Christian Republicans!

They and their wealthy business-owner cohorts, e.g., insurance company execs, are the PLANTATION MASTERS...

and the rest of us?

SLAVES.

Posted by: kentuckywoman2 | February 8, 2010 11:31 PM | Report abuse

In my book all this rhetoric is wasted energy. Just have Congress intorduce a bill offering the rest of America the same Health care covergae they now enjoy. We are not inferior to them.

Posted by: npsilver | February 8, 2010 11:28 PM | Report abuse

To the Republicans:


You should be writing that letter to the American People, not to Obama.


Second, insist on a neutral location.


Third - insist on a format which will work to your advantage - do not allow Obama be the moderator who can smack-down everything you say.

Fourth - Start the negotiations now - send out the topics that you want discussed - and start saying that the American people do not want a massive government program or any tax increases.

Fifth - concentrate on regulation of the health insurance companies - and reject any transfers of wealth ideas.


ALWAYS MAKE SURE YOU HAVE A GOOD PR STRATEGY TO COUNTER ANY POSSIBLE STRATEGIES OBAMA MAY HAVE

HAVE YOUR ANSWERS READY WHEN OBAMA STARTS TO GRANDSTAND.

TAKE HIM ON.


.

Posted by: 37thand0street | February 8, 2010 11:27 PM | Report abuse

The only thing to talk about is what comes after the dead Healthcare Deform Bill.

Posted by: Imarkex | February 8, 2010 11:26 PM | Report abuse

As they planned possibly before 2007, Obama and his comrades are busy "reducing the credibility of the health insurance industry."

Robert Creamer, a CONVICTED FELON and Obama’s ACORN associate, outlined the guidelines for the Obamacare SCAM in his 2007 book, “Stand Up Straight: How Progressives Can Win.”

As per Creamer’s book, the main objective of Obamacare is only to increase the power of "progressives" (Marxists) through the “democratization of wealth” (socialism/Marxim) as per the teachings of Saul Alinsky.

Creamer wrote in his 2007 book:

* “We must create a national consensus that health care is a right, not a commodity; and that government must guarantee that right.”
* “We must create a national consensus that the health care system is in crisis.”
* “Our messaging program over the next two years should focus heavily on reducing the credibility of the health insurance industry….”
* “We need not agree in advance on the components of a plan, but we must foster a process that can ultimately yield consensus.”

As per those guidelines, Obama and his comrades will agree to ANYTHING to get their scam approved. They don't care about the "components of the plan." All they want is CONTROL over our health care and our lives.

They want complete power as that of the Marxist thugs who are destroying Latin America. They plan to increase their power through the “democratization of wealth” (socialism/Marxism).
http://the-classic-liberal.com/progressive-agenda-for-structural-change-stand-up-straight/

Posted by: AntonioSosa | February 8, 2010 11:23 PM | Report abuse

Yes to Antonio Sosa FOR PRESIDENT

Posted by: Imarkex | February 8, 2010 11:23 PM | Report abuse

Obama wants to show people who the Republicans really are. Boehner and the rest of them are scared silly so they have dreamed up an "excuse" not to attend the summit.
Does anyone see a statesman somewhere in the Republican party??? Guess they must be hiding somewhere.
Perhaps Sarah Palin should step in and display her vast knowledge of the subject? I can only hope.

Posted by: jantigard | February 8, 2010 11:21 PM | Report abuse

Oh, for goodness sakes, people, talk about drinking the kool-aide. I really fear for our country that there are so many people on both sides who see the other as Satan. We are neighbors, folks. Lighten up and let's figure out how to get our friends and neighbors back to work, keep healthcare from ruining US business, and begin to pull the wagon in the same direction.

Posted by: maggieww | February 8, 2010 11:21 PM | Report abuse

Americans need Republicans to continue to say NO to Obama’s criminal scams.

Republican Senators can be proud that, in contrast with Democratic Senators, ALL Republicans Senators said NO to the lies, manipulations and BRIBES of Obama and his comrades to force the Obamacare scam on us.

Republicans have had the courage and integrity to say NO:
NO to Marxist scams like Obamacare and cap and trade
NO to higher deficits that are destroying the future of our children and grandchildren
NO to government takeovers
NO to siding with terrorists and helping them at the expense of American people
NO to having the corrupt United Nations deciding what the U.S. should and should not do
NO to Saul Alinsky's culture of lies, manipulation, intimidation, coercion, bribery, fraud, corruption and death
NO to trampling on the U.S. Constitution
NO to imitating the strategies of the Marxist thugs who are destroying Latin America
NO to all of Obama's scams that are destroying America
YES to REAL reform to improve health care
YES to fiscal and personal responsibility
YES to governments of laws rather than of men
YES to defending Americans from terrorists and other U.S. enemies
YES to respecting the U.S. Constitution
YES to energy independence
YES to freedom, including freedom OF religion (not FROM religion)
YES to patriotism
YES to prosperity

Posted by: AntonioSosa | February 8, 2010 11:17 PM | Report abuse

From the posts here, sounds like the liberals want the Republicans to show up and the conservatives believe a boycott is in order. This is Obama's mess, let Obama and his Congressional Majority push it through and take 100% of the credit...if they can find 51 Senators who are willing to literally drink the Kool-Aid for their fearless leader.

Posted by: JCM-51 | February 8, 2010 11:16 PM | Report abuse

All these guys have to do is show up. John Wayne and the Gipper would be ASHAMED of these representatives of the Republican party. I hope some of their supporters kick them in the rear and let them know the longer they wait, the worse situation we will all be in. Sarah Palin might be able to run the shadow of our country that the Republican leadership seems to want.

Posted by: maggieww | February 8, 2010 11:12 PM | Report abuse

Republicans should not help Obama emulate Hugo Chavez and the rest of the Marxist thugs who are destroying Latin America.

Imitating Hugo Chavez, Obama wants to influence and take over the Legislative branch of power. Through additional lies, manipulation, intimidation and coercion, he wants to force us to swallow the Obamacare scam.

Imitating Hugo Chavez, Obama wants to nationalize everything, including our health care system! "Hey, Obama has just nationalized nothing more and nothing less than General Motors. Comrade Obama!" Chavez cheered on Venezuelan TV. He added that he and Cuba's Fidel Castro would now have to work harder just to keep up.
http://www.hacer.org/report/2009/06/us-obamas-red-chorus-investors-business.html

Fortunately, most Americans have NOT been dumbed down! Most Americans are NOT sheeple! Most Americans are ready to defend their FREEDOM and the freedom of their children and grandchildren from the abomination of Obama's criminal scams and socialism/Marxism.

Posted by: AntonioSosa | February 8, 2010 11:12 PM | Report abuse

"Trust me, after taxes, a million dollars is not a lot of money". - Michael Steele

Now, I have indeed heard it all.

Posted by: expat2MEX | February 8, 2010 11:11 PM | Report abuse

The only criminal scam here is the amount of time Boehner spends tanning his empty-headed self - I am sure the taxpayers of Ohio didn't send him to Washington to tan his flabby hide and wave empty paged pamphlets so that WAPO sock puppets can give him the reebo thumbs up on the comments page.

Posted by: LABC | February 8, 2010 11:11 PM | Report abuse

Congratulations to Boehner and Cantor. Republicans should REFUSE to advance Obama's criminal scams.

As they said, "If the starting point for this meeting is the job-killing bills the American people have already soundly rejected, Republicans would rightly be reluctant to participate."

There's no RIGHT way to do the WRONG thing!

Posted by: AntonioSosa | February 8, 2010 11:05 PM | Report abuse

BWAHAHAHHHAHAA...runmon, that was so funny,! FAUX NEWS!! And that ridiculous teabagger manifesto you wrote...LOL!! LMAO!! ....oh, you are serious?

Posted by: LABC | February 8, 2010 11:05 PM | Report abuse

Boehner could have shortened the letter: "I need to continue to do nothing for the state of Ohio while basting myself and Cantor has a dweeb convention meeting that day." i am sure Emmanuel got bored after the first paragraph.

Posted by: LABC | February 8, 2010 11:02 PM | Report abuse

Updated January 29, 2010, Who Is Blocking Health Care Reform Now?
By C.L. Gray, - FOXNews.com
http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2010/01/29/clgray-health-care-obama-reform-state-union/

We the People choose step-wise, patient-centered, fiscally responsible reforms, will President Obama stand in the way?

Posted by: runmon | February 8, 2010 11:01 PM | Report abuse

smartest thing i have heard come out of congress in a long time

Posted by: dagner49 | February 8, 2010 10:58 PM | Report abuse

Republicans are running scared after the president handed them their collective heads on a stake for lunch at their own caucus last week.

Now,much like roaches scampering at the first sight of light in a dark room, Republicans are scampering at the first sight of enlightenment in a public forum!

Posted by: Citi__Street | February 8, 2010 10:56 PM | Report abuse

OK jeffc, it already cost the Dems "Teddy's seat", so please name 51 slow-learning Democratic Senators who are willing to commit political suicide by ramming Obama's health care plan through under "reconciliation"?

Posted by: JCM-51 | February 8, 2010 10:55 PM | Report abuse

Eric Cantor and John Boehner are the two dumbest people in Congress. boehner can't write so Cantor had to put together that disaster of a "surrender"letter. They can't even pretend to be smart. This proves they have been lying all along. Do you really think if these clowns had any solutions, they wouldn't show up to make sure we all knew it. Please.

They should have spent more time actually working on a plan intead of scaring old people across the country. They are a disgrace. How dare they give the President pre-conditions. They certainly forgot their place. He gave them NO pre-conditions when he came to their house and handed them their heads. They still think Bush and Cheney are in charge. Idiots!

Posted by: Julescator | February 8, 2010 10:55 PM | Report abuse

Won't it be a buzz to see the news coverage ....even the live coverage... come the time when the Heath Care Summit is scheduled and not a single Repug shows up. Now how do you think the American Independent will react to that? Repugs a No-Show! Now that's how statesmen act, right? I bet the Demos are really hoping they follow through on the threat!

Posted by: SickofFatCats | February 8, 2010 10:52 PM | Report abuse

I think we should blame Al Gore for all this snow.

Posted by: JCM-51 | February 8, 2010 10:51 PM | Report abuse

JCM-51, you fool... the Dems have already paid the price for voting for health care - they'll vote for it because they have to get something for their trouble.
Duh.

Posted by: jeffc6578 | February 8, 2010 10:50 PM | Report abuse

america is being run a couple of public relations hacks,
axelrod and gibbs...
roll over barack,
play dead, barack,
lapdog itis...

Posted by: simonsays1 | February 8, 2010 10:48 PM | Report abuse

The American system of government is not a democracy. It is a joke.

Posted by: SickofFatCats | February 8, 2010 10:46 PM | Report abuse

Republicans are like dogs with their tails between their legs. Who wants to be a party to that?

Party of no ideas indeed.

Posted by: zackool | February 8, 2010 10:46 PM | Report abuse

May 20, 2009
Senators Coburn, Burr and Representatives Ryan, Nunes
Offer A Better Path Forward on Health Care Reform
Bicameral Coalition of Reformers Unveil “The Patients’ Choice Act of 2009”
http://coburn.senate.gov/public/index.cfm?FuseAction=HealthCareReform.Home

WASHINGTON – Earlier today, U.S. Senators Tom Coburn, M.D. (R-OK) and Richard Burr (R-NC) and U.S. Representatives Paul Ryan (R-WI) and Devin Nunes (R-CA) introduced health care reform legislation that delivers on the shared principles of promoting universal access to quality, affordable health care, and does so without adding billions of dollars in new debt or taxes.

“The Patients’ Choice Act of 2009,” transforms health care in America by strengthening the relationship between the patient and the doctor; using choice and competition rather than rationing and restrictions to contain costs; and ensuring universal, affordable health care for all Americans. “The Patients’ Choice Act” promotes innovative, State-based solutions, along with fundamental reforms in the tax code, to give every American, regardless of employment status, age, or health condition, the ability and the resources to purchase health insurance. The comprehensive legislation includes concrete prevention and transparency initiatives, long overdue reforms to Medicare and Medicaid, investments in wellness programs and health IT, and more.

Posted by: runmon | February 8, 2010 10:45 PM | Report abuse

Where will Obama find 51 Democratic Senators who are willing to commit political suicide to ram his health care plan through under "reconciliation"?

Posted by: JCM-51 | February 8, 2010 10:45 PM | Report abuse

Well it was expected...
Now I guess their go behind closed doors and....work on their waterloo...

GOP WATERLOO
1. PRIVATIZED SOCIAL SECURITY
2. CUT SOCIAL SECURITY FOR THOSE UNDER 55
3. PRIVATIZED MEDICAID AND MEDICARE
4. FREEZE ALL DOMESTIC SPENDING
5. DE-REGULATE WALLSTREET
6. AND LAST BUT NOT LEAST....CUT TAXES FOR THE RICH FOLKS

AMERICA - NOW YOU BELIEVE ME WHEN I TELL YOU THE GOP HAS A SNOWBALL CHANCE IN HELL OF PICKING UP MAJORITY IN CONGRESS THIS NOVEMBER!!!!

Posted by: dove369 | February 8, 2010 10:45 PM | Report abuse

Bravo Mr. President. You boxed them in and they caved. we know they are empty suits. They just didn't want it highlighted on LIVE TV. The Desm should meet to pass health care. That was the plan al along. Call out the GOP. They LOSE in this game of Chicken! Buck Buck Buck

Posted by: Julescator | February 8, 2010 10:43 PM | Report abuse

Lets face it NOTHING will get done in the US Senate for the benefit of American people (middle class) because the US senate, specially Republicans, are wholly owned by Big corporations (Big pharma, Big insurance, Big Military, etc.), so in effect Republican senators are the true enemy of American people, and they get away with this by how right-wing the US Media is, which means that it too is also owned by the same Big corporations (Big pharma, Big insurance, etc. - more on this last point here:
http://anoox.com/blog/Real_News.33681

As the best and ultimate proof that Republicans truly hate the American people (middle class), take Orin Hatch and Lieberman and their views regarding Israel and Universal nationalized health care for Americans. Note: you can replace the name of Orin Hatch with just about any Republican senator and many "moderate" Democrats (aka Republicans) too, specially Lieberman, but for sake of this proof we will use Orin Hatch and Lieberman who have been most against any sort of Universal nationalized health care for Americans.

You can read the full article here:
http://anoox.com/blog/UHC.37761

Posted by: RealNews1 | February 8, 2010 10:43 PM | Report abuse

Obama shamed the GOP at their own meeting, and now the Repugs are clearly AFRAID of going up against him in public again. Can you imagine how good it will be for Democrats if these sludge dogs actually nominate the Palm Reader as their Presidential Nominee?

Posted by: SickofFatCats | February 8, 2010 10:43 PM | Report abuse

Bottom line is the republicans are scared to show up because they'll look as foolish as they did when Obama addressed them last week.
How utterly CHICKEN SHI.
The funny thing is that Obama has them over a box here.
If they show up, they'll look like the fools they are.
If they don't show up, they'll look like the obstructionist *ssholes they are.
Looks like Mitch and the spray tanned Boner have been played.

Posted by: jeffc6578 | February 8, 2010 10:40 PM | Report abuse

wow jmc-51 ..took a new posting name.

GOP Pay and free insurance must be good to post 24x7..

Cannot wait for you to lose your job.
IT is going to happen..
Along with yoru health Insurance.

Just remember all the free Koolaide and TEA entitlement juice?

ISA


Posted by: Issa1 | February 8, 2010 10:38 PM | Report abuse

JCM51 -- BGM109 in Crystal City? Norm and Paul?

Posted by: usafa75 | February 8, 2010 10:37 PM | Report abuse

wow jmc-51 ..took a new posting name.

GOP Pay and free insurance must be good to post 24x7..

Cannot wait for you to lose your job.
IT is going to happen..
Along with yoru health Insurance.

Just remember all the free Koolaide and TEA entitlement juice?

ISA


Posted by: Issa1 | February 8, 2010 10:37 PM | Report abuse

Seriously, the GOP wants health care in this country to remain the same? Seriously, what do Republicans stand for...if not corruption, gridlock and domestic terrorism? Those of you who support this kind of policy are pitiful. American government...no better than nothing.

Posted by: SickofFatCats | February 8, 2010 10:37 PM | Report abuse

jeffc6578

The Palin/Hillary bit was intended to amuse...but stranger things have happened in politics...like Obama picking Biden as his VP...so lighten up and enjoy life.

Posted by: JCM-51 | February 8, 2010 10:36 PM | Report abuse

I would advise the Democratic members of the House of Representatives to imediately pass the Senate Health Bill and have the President sign the bill into law.

The GOP are giving you the finger. They think if they continue not to participate, they will win the house in November. You are a fool to continue to play in the game where you gave your historic election trophy away. Boehner thinks he has the ball and had the groundhog hide it.

Some Democrats are spending their last year in the Congress. If you let this opportunity pass you, more of you will loose in November.

Please pass the bill, this is a historic bill.

The New Orleans Saints should inspire you. They didn't give up-follow their winning example.

Posted by: COWENS99 | February 8, 2010 10:33 PM | Report abuse

Now you guys are cracking me up...Nancy Pelosi looking like a "war hero"...next you will be calling Biden a Rhodes scholar and Reid an effective leader. Face it, the Dems had the Oval Office, a majority in the House and a Super Majority in the Senate and still could not pass Obama's piece of crap health care legislation. After MA, you won't be able to find 51 Dem Senators dumb enough to push it through on reconciliation. Obama wasted a year of his one term on this crap...his next address will be a peanut farm down in Georgia.

Posted by: JCM-51 | February 8, 2010 10:32 PM | Report abuse

JCM-51 - You're not annoying me - you're amusing me.
Sarah Palin for president?
With a Hillary endorsement??
For real? That speaks to serious drugs to me.

Posted by: jeffc6578 | February 8, 2010 10:30 PM | Report abuse

JCM-51-
What kind of drugs are you on???

Posted by: jeffc6578 | February 8, 2010 10:15 PM | Report abuse

Dude, No drugs for me, I am high on life. Capitals came back from 3 down to win yesterday, Saints came back from 10 down to win the Super Bowl, got a Yorkie in my lap and annoying the heck out of at least one liberal. LIfe is good, you "betcha".

Posted by: JCM-51 | February 8, 2010 10:27 PM | Report abuse

Nancy Pelosi looks like a war hero compared to these scared Republican kittens. Watching the weak-willedness of Democrats always makes me forget that it's really Republicans who are the gold standard in cowardice.

Posted by: opinionpieces | February 8, 2010 10:27 PM | Report abuse

Cowardly rodents those Repugnants. Is it possible that Congress' disapproval rate can fall below 10 percent? How can it stay above that level with this kind of pathetic attitude!

Posted by: SickofFatCats | February 8, 2010 10:26 PM | Report abuse

ABC NEWS reports on December 24, 2009:

Before leaving for his vacation in Hawaii, Obama praised the Senate bill despite the fact that not a single Republican voted in favor of it. Obama had repeatedly pushed for bipartisanship and held several private meetings with Republican lawmakers to discuss health care.

"This will be the most important piece of social legislation since the Social Security Act passed in the 1930's and the most important reform of our health care system since Medicare passed in the 1960's," the president said.

He called health-care legislation the "largest deficit-reduction plan in over a decade," and said he looks forward to working with both chambers of Congress "over the coming weeks" to bring a final bill to his desk. The president is likely to face rising criticism from the GOP in January; Republicans say they want to see more action on the economy and jobs front.


Really Republicans? Get your act together! The whining is pathetic and so are the lies. Losing more and more respect for you. For the love of God, get it together, get with the program, and vote with your public in mind, not your egos.

Posted by: domino21710 | February 8, 2010 10:26 PM | Report abuse

Here we go again. The "Just Say No Campaign" in full swing again. Really, did anybody expect Repubs to say "yes" without first saying "no." They are still trying to make political points rather than come up with honest solutions. They had eight years to come up with a health plan and never even thought twice about it. But yet, they believe the healthcare system needs overhauling. Taking a cue from an old James Brown song, they're "Just Talking Loud, Ain't Saying Nothing.

Posted by: MILLER123 | February 8, 2010 10:23 PM | Report abuse

Pres O and Democarts, stop wasting your time with Republicans.

Clearly they have no interest in working with you or wanting you to suceed.

What a shame

Posted by: K2007 | February 8, 2010 10:23 PM | Report abuse

Pres O and Democarts, stop wasting your time with Republicans.

Clearly they have no interest in working with you or wanting you to suceed.

What a shame

Posted by: K2007 | February 8, 2010 10:22 PM | Report abuse

Pres O and Democarts, stop wasting your time with Republicans.

Clearly they have no interest in working with you or wanting you to suceed.

What a shame

Posted by: K2007 | February 8, 2010 10:22 PM | Report abuse

The president extends his hand in a gesture of bipartisanship and receives a list of demands or the other party won't participate. This is the problem with Washington, everything has to be positioned so there is a winner and loser yet in the meantime the people always lose.

Obama would be crazy to give into one demand. I would tell them to bring their ideas and we'll review them on live TV one by one. This is their chance to show the American people how their ideas will work.

I would not agree to scrap any previous legislation since it removes the GOP incentive to come with serious proposals. If he agrees to scrap all past legislation then the GOP wins, they officially stopped health care.

Posted by: soapm | February 8, 2010 10:22 PM | Report abuse

I am relieved that the GOP thugs and goons will not be at the summit.

Posted by: kevin1231 | February 8, 2010 10:20 PM | Report abuse

could I please, hear from my president,
that he at least acknowledges,
THERE IS A RECESSION!
gays in the military,
healthcare reform,
GIANT deficits,
and all the whitehouse has time
or energy to do,
is release letters from the house
about a meeting, meant to cause
more DIVISION...
a very very divisive stand.

WE WANT OUR GOVERNMENT CHEESE!!!!

Posted by: simonsays1 | February 8, 2010 10:17 PM | Report abuse

So, Obama the pathetic loser wants to drag the Republicans down just like he did the Democratics in New Jersey and Virginia and Massachusets, even jinxed the Colts in the Super Bowl...but oh yeah, the Republicans should go climb on his health care bandwagon. Give me a freaking break!!

Posted by: JCM-51 | February 8, 2010 10:17 PM | Report abuse

JCM-51-
What kind of drugs are you on???

Posted by: jeffc6578 | February 8, 2010 10:15 PM | Report abuse

Obama called their bluff, and they got nothin!

Posted by: kurthunt | February 8, 2010 10:13 PM | Report abuse

Cowards!

Posted by: kurthunt | February 8, 2010 10:09 PM | Report abuse

If you want us to even pretend to engage with you, you must capitulate in advance.

This is the epitome of bad faith.

Posted by: billyblizzard | February 8, 2010 10:08 PM | Report abuse

Let’s all step back and take a deep breath and see what is right for the good old USA. We need a very savvy mediator to get these folk to find consensus. Is tort reform a good idea? In many cases, yes. But where is the limit where one provides a “get out of jail card” to bad doctors who practice bad medicine? What about letting folk out of having health insurance? OK, let them opt out with the caveat that they will not be able to avail themselves of any health care that they can not pay for. So as they age and they want health insurance? Fine – they will pay for it like life insurance. The older you are and/or the more you have ignored the insurance the more you pay.

But all this is small potatoes. What is the most critical issue both parties have ignored because it is political suicide to address? It is current public health insurance including Medicare. Yes, Medicare is one of those “socialist” programs we love to hate. However, unless we get this public health care under control, programs for seniors will suck resources away from younger generations much more than the amorphous rhetoric of national debt. The national debt is for the most part programs, such as Medicare, promised to seniors years ago, never affordable and today driving us all to the poor house.

So all you politicians stop thinking about the November elections for just one small moment. Give a little. Get a little. Make this one for the USA and the future of all.

Posted by: Willis3 | February 8, 2010 10:07 PM | Report abuse

In response to JCM-51, Sarah Palin is a George W. Bush with lipstick, only dumber. Who in their right mind,(no pun intended),would want another "W" running this country? Palin might have some "folksy" wisdom that makes you feel warm and cuddly, but run a country? Just yesterday she said Obama should play the "War card". What kind of diplomacy is that? Did she care to think by playing the "War Card" against Iran, it might lead to the deaths of many innocent people? It is not only the left she has riled up, but also intellectuals around the world who shudder at what she might do to this country as if "W" did not do enough.

Posted by: Sadaam | February 8, 2010 10:05 PM | Report abuse

Ha! Of course. I should have guessed. What a bunch of losers. Stone-wallers. What do we pay these clowns for? The GOP are pathetic. They are slime.

Posted by: kurthunt | February 8, 2010 10:02 PM | Report abuse

Here is an interesting 2012 scenario. Hillary runs against Obama in the primary, loses, and then both Bill and Hillary endorse Sarah. Payback for Barry’s disrespecting Bill and suckering Hillary into being Secretary of State and then neutering the position. Heck, Sarah may even give Hillary a real cabinet position.

Posted by: JCM-51 | February 8, 2010 10:02 PM | Report abuse

Someone here suggested that the President acquiesce to these Republican demands. The writer thinks that this will bring the Republicans to the conference. Wrong. They will find more demands and ask for more acquiescence. All the Republicans want to do is just say no, not produce ideas, and whine using lies as basis.

The President should go ahead with the conference. Should the Republicans not be present at starting time, he should wait 15 minutes. If they are still no-shows, he should proceed without them.

The Republicans have boxed themselves into a corner on this. And, the President is helping them stay there.

Posted by: pbarnett52 | February 8, 2010 10:01 PM | Report abuse

Republicans have whined all year that they have been left out of the discussion, but I have yet to see a comprehensive plan for health care from them.

When Republicans were in charge, they had no plan for health care and if they come back, they will put it on the backburner once again. Their plan to make health care more affordable and more accessible is to ignore the problem and hope that it goes away.

Posted by: AxelDC | February 8, 2010 10:01 PM | Report abuse

Republicans, I'm begging you, please stop this galloping socialism that we have been witnessing since that fraud in the White House lied his way to our Presidency with his pledges of reducing the size of government and ending earmarks and wasteful spending. No one voted for socialism. No one wants it. Please, please tell him no, no and Hell no. Most Americans are pleased with their health care. This urgency is a sham that Obama and the Democrats cooked up to hide their grab for an enormous increase in their power of Americans. Stop them. Please.

Posted by: SameOldTiredThinking | February 8, 2010 9:58 PM | Report abuse

Off topic, but I have to ask: What is it about Sarah that scares the extreme left into such paranoid panic? Perhaps her common sense approach to our nation's problems contrasted against Obama's big government, big tax, big deficit non-solutions...and she speaks from her heart and note cards, not reading a canned speech from a teleprompter...and I betcha she can pronounce "corpsman”…Obama is 0 for 3 on that one.

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To answer your question, "CRAZY" & you and I both know that if she were to ever win a presidency, it won't be her running the country.

It will be War Profiteers running it.

Posted by: lcarter0311 | February 8, 2010 9:57 PM | Report abuse

I watched as much of palins rambling nonsesne tea bag speech as I could without vomiting. She is beyond stupid. She is the type of person who is too stupid to realize they are stupid. The thought of her running anyting beyond a bake sale is frightening, but the thought of her running as the gop candidate is delightful. Get her in the spotlight with real questions and real debates against someone like Our President -- holy cow....Biden was kind to her because he didn't want to come off a bully and he had everything to lose and nothing to gain by making her look as stupid as she is, but if she is the top of the ticket no one will leave the gloves on and she will crash and burn worse than she did in the Couric interview --

Posted by: John1263 | February 8, 2010 9:56 PM | Report abuse

JCM-51 -
Who ever said liberals are afriad of Sarah Palin?
I can't imagine a better candidate for the republican tea baggers- I can't wait to see her debate.
har har har!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: jeffc6578 | February 8, 2010 9:54 PM | Report abuse

Last time the Republicans met publicly with Barry, he did not answer a single question, just used them as points of departure to get into arrogant, self-serving mini-lectures. This man could not lead an alcoholic to a bar, amazes me that the far left continues to blindly follow him….guess they fall into that category of ”you can fool some of the people all of the time”.

Posted by: JCM-51

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You are still delusional.

The last time they invited the president to their snake pit in front of the cameras, they got whupped like a bunch of sissies and they know it will happen again.

Posted by: lcarter0311 | February 8, 2010 9:53 PM | Report abuse

Funny about that meeting with the gop -- not only did Our President address every question that the repubbies posed, he also used the opportunity to teach them what the word queston means, and how goig on for five minutes with a string of false talking points prior to asking a simple yes or no question that is predicated on a flase dichotomy is neither "asking a question" nor productive for finding solutions to problems. He took those repubs who thought they were goig to get one over on him to task, and reminded us all that he is by far the most intelligent and gifetd political leader we have had in generations. If you saw something different you did not watch the broadcast.

Posted by: John1263 | February 8, 2010 9:51 PM | Report abuse

Off topic, but I have to ask: What is it about Sarah that scares the extreme left into such paranoid panic? Perhaps her common sense approach to our nation's problems contrasted against Obama's big government, big tax, big deficit non-solutions...and she speaks from her heart and note cards, not reading a canned speech from a teleprompter...and I betcha she can pronounce "corpsman”…Obama is 0 for 3 on that one.

Posted by: JCM-51 | February 8, 2010 9:48 PM | Report abuse

Our Presdient went to the republicons a week ago and took their questions. A few of them even had serious things to say. However, most of them beleive the nonsense they hear from fox and thought they would sandbag the president, and they got schooled. Now he is asking them to put up or shut up, and they are too chicken sht to even show their faces.

Posted by: John1263 | February 8, 2010 9:46 PM | Report abuse

Newsflash: the republicans LOST the election. They are the MINORITY.
If they don't show up, it's time to stuff reconciliation in their puckered *sses.
Hard.

Posted by: jeffc6578 | February 8, 2010 9:45 PM | Report abuse

Last time the Republicans met publicly with Barry, he did not answer a single question, just used them as points of departure to get into arrogant, self-serving mini-lectures. This man could not lead an alcoholic to a bar, amazes me that the far left continues to blindly follow him….guess they fall into that category of ”you can fool some of the people all of the time”.

Posted by: JCM-51 | February 8, 2010 9:43 PM | Report abuse

Typical GOP BS. We won't talk to you unless you give us what we want. If the GOP chooses not to show, they will blame the Dems, as always, instead of themselves. Obama was dead on when he told them that all their whining and lying has forced them into a corner. They just don't seem to realize that's where they are.

GOP bipartisanship = bending over and letting team Beck have their way with you.

Posted by: janeway1 | February 8, 2010 9:43 PM | Report abuse

So......they claim to have all these fab ideas, yet when asked to come and present them?? SURPRISE!!!! nothing. They got nothing. They will not go because they know they will be exposed for the hypocritical mindless frauds they really are.

Posted by: John1263 | February 8, 2010 9:42 PM | Report abuse

onadafi, the american people are on to the msm. read ''liberal's are condescending''.

Posted by: 12thgenamerican | February 8, 2010 9:40 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: rigoman3

Where am I going wrong here?
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The differences I see is that for one it broadcast (only???) on C-span which will afford the viewer a non-editorialized live-stream view of reality. Not some jokers play by play knee-jerk version of it (cnn, fox, nbc...).

Now all these channels will be chattering afterward for days, can't stop that, and people still watch a great amount of tv... so maybe a few will actually flip it C-Span (maybe all the big cable news will air it live, don't know ???)

But, what your going do? All is can is offer the product and hope that buyer cash in. It is better than it never happening.

Posted by: yarbrougharts | February 8, 2010 9:40 PM | Report abuse

JCM-51 wrote:

The most disgusting thing Obama has done was having a publicity shot of himself taken in front of the flag-draped coffins of our dead troops. Trying to ram this health care crap down our throats runs a distant second.
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Yeah, showing respect for our fallen hero's and showing the true cost of war is SOOOO much worse than putting on a flight suit and strutting around the deck of a carrier with a Mission Accomplished banner to show how tuff you are, even after dodging the draft.

Posted by: jeffc6578 | February 8, 2010 9:39 PM | Report abuse

Republicans have no interest in starting over on a new Health care reform bill. This is just another one of their delay and obstruct tactics.

Who in the world does the GOP think they're fooling?

This is obstructionist GOP tactic #75 on the HC Bill.

The President has offered to go through it line-by-line with them and possibly negotiate on things they did not agree with, and they still say , "NO" , Start Over!

Posted by: lcarter0311 | February 8, 2010 9:38 PM | Report abuse

Are you FN kidding me? Why Obama, why? F them.

Posted by: anarcho-liberal-tarian | February 8, 2010 9:38 PM | Report abuse

The most disgusting thing Obama has done was having a publicity shot of himself taken in front of the flag-draped coffins of our dead troops. Trying to ram this health care crap down our throats runs a distant second.

Posted by: JCM-51 | February 8, 2010 9:37 PM | Report abuse

Time for the media to do its job and take these republican clowns to task.

Posted by: onifadee | February 8, 2010 9:35 PM | Report abuse

Cowards

Posted by: onifadee | February 8, 2010 9:32 PM | Report abuse

Cant blame the republicans for this one, Obama invites them to work with him but refuses to consider taking his ridiculous senate bill off the table, why wld they meet if he has drawn a line in the sand? The republicans are not stupid they know Obama is trying to use thm to save him and his party's backside. Obama dreads not coming up with a healthcare bill after wasting a year on it and the repubs know this. He is going to try and make them the fall guy by looking like he wants to work with thm. My guess is in the end he will bend both knees and kiss McConnells rumpled backside and give the repubs what they want in the end. Anything to say he got a bill signed. Lets face it guys, he is way over his head.

Posted by: rbprtman23 | February 8, 2010 9:30 PM | Report abuse

I'm confused and maybe someone can help me. President Obama instructed the Democrats to stop watching all of the political theatre that is being broadcast on such channels such as CNN, FoxNews and MSNBC, get out, and meet everyday americans (or something to that effect). That being the case, why would he want these discussions broadcast since no one will be watching them?? I for one plan on following his advice and not bothering to watch these discussions since I don't think anything will come from them. Anyone care to differ? Where am I going wrong here?

Posted by: rigoman33 | February 8, 2010 9:29 PM | Report abuse

Mr. President,

Please agree to whatever conditions the Republicans lay before you to get them to come before a TV audience to present their ideas.

Posted by: pattr1 | February 8, 2010 9:28 PM | Report abuse

Hey everybody, I say it's high time that we do away with the "R" word.

Posted by: burlydave | February 8, 2010 9:28 PM | Report abuse

This is so typical of these obstructionist jerks!

For them, it's about POWER and PARTY, and country comes in third place.

With the slightest amount of luck, the teabaggers will collide with the rest of the republican party and cancel each other out this year.

Maybe, this is what they're all so worried about right now.

Posted by: binkynh | February 8, 2010 9:27 PM | Report abuse

The most disgusting thing Obama has done was having a publicity shot of himself taken in front of the flag-draped coffins of our dead troops. Trying to ram this health care crap down our throats runs a distant second.

Posted by: JCM-51 | February 8, 2010 9:27 PM | Report abuse

Republicans are still on a mission to DESTROY his Obama presidency for the fact that "he is who he is", which is the primary reason for their obstructionist tactics.

In doing so, they are also holding the country and the American people hostage, thus preventing any progressive legislation from moving forward to get people back to work and also dealing with other critical issues facing the country.

Republicans know that if they can obstruct any Democratic legislation from passing, then Obama will be seen as a failure, even though they know that the majority of the legislation is good for the country.

If he fails, they believe that they will then have an opportunity to win back both houses in the Congress in 2010 and the WH in 2012.

Posted by: lcarter0311 | February 8, 2010 9:25 PM | Report abuse

Ha. Looks like a certain party saw their bluff called.

Posted by: simpleton1 | February 8, 2010 9:25 PM | Report abuse

Let the obstructionist pu*sy republicans skip it. They're the ones who have to answer for it.
Not showing up will prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that the republicans have zero intention of doing ANYTHING that will upset their big insurance company sugar daddies.
It will be a PR nightmare for these *ssholes.

Posted by: jeffc6578 | February 8, 2010 9:24 PM | Report abuse

This is exactly what I expected them to consider first. The republicans have long past the presumption of cooperation. There plans are simple, the only bills they will consider are to be 100% written by Republicans, but even in that, they want nothing passed this summer from either side. There are going to oppose everything that the Democrats touch between now and the elections.

Will they pay the price for such harmful arrogance and destruction? I doubt it. They making Washington ungovernable so they can blame the dysfunction on the other side, and most of the public will shrug and be attracted to shiny things.

Posted by: yarbrougharts | February 8, 2010 9:23 PM | Report abuse

No shows? No problem. One word: reconciliation.

The Republicans have had every chance to offer alternatives, but that would take actual work and maybe even some original thought. Why do that when you can just say no? It's time to say no to the GnOP. Grow a pair Democrats and get something done.

Posted by: rcasero | February 8, 2010 9:11 PM | Report abuse

No, I won't meet you because the table is square instead of round, it's black, no it's white, wait we want you to start over with only our ideas, after all you asked us to join in on the discussions at the beginning but we can't work with you because your on the other side of the aisle and nothing you say will change that...So there....

Posted by: prwolfe | February 8, 2010 9:10 PM | Report abuse

"Who cares? Meaningful health care reform died when the single payer public option was taken off the table.

Everything after that point became an argument over how much the insurance companies would make.

. . . "the finest health care system in the world"

Don't make me laugh.

Posted by: palmtree2001"

Couldn't have said it better myself.

Posted by: solsticebelle | February 8, 2010 9:10 PM | Report abuse

Does the GOP have the phrase NO NO NO tattooed on their PALMS to remind themselves of their ONLY POLICY?????? NOw we know where Sarah Palin got her "idea" for making a HillBilly Palm Pilot.


You all must be so proud to show off the WORST parts of a democracy.

What role models for civil democracy the GOPs stand for. No wonder the rest of the world despises democracy US STYLE>

Posted by: kare1 | February 8, 2010 9:08 PM | Report abuse

And If Obama wanted to JAM health care through, he sure's as hell would have done it by now. I think Obama is SOOOO smart, he is going to keep asking for the republicans input, BUT the republicans will keep making up excuses and that is exactly what Obama wants folks. Soon enough, the America people will wise up and get sick of the republicans BUSY DOING NOTHING tactic.

Posted by: kubrickstan | February 8, 2010 9:07 PM | Report abuse

Typical Republican... Its my way or I take my toys and go home. Republicans are some of the biggest traitors to this country with their fiscal mismanagement, the love of deregulation and their tax cut and borrow policies. If these people regain power, we will be speaking Chinese even faster. Thanks our government, we owe China our lives.

Posted by: dwdave67 | February 8, 2010 9:04 PM | Report abuse

These scumbags are such hypocrites, we have two wars to fight folks, al-Qaeda and the republican party, both hell bent on destroying America.

Posted by: kubrickstan | February 8, 2010 9:03 PM | Report abuse

The republicans continue to just say no. that's because they have nothing to add to the discussion. They believe they can just continue to say no long enough to keep anything from being done. They are on thin ice just like the democrats. A Pox on their house.

Posted by: esdean | February 8, 2010 9:02 PM | Report abuse

Who cares? Meaningful health care reform died when the single payer public option was taken off the table.

Everything after that point became an argument over how much the insurance companies would make.

. . . "the finest health care system in the world"

Don't make me laugh.

Posted by: palmtree2001 | February 8, 2010 9:02 PM | Report abuse

The health care bills are the Democrats' concrete proposals on health care. Obama is asking for an exchange of ideas, not acceptance of the Democratic proposals.

For the Republicans to demand that the Democrats abandon their proposals as a precondition for discussion is absurd.

Why are the Republicans afraid of going through a list of health care topics and comparing/discussing proposals in detail? It almost seems like the Republican are only interesting in hiding behind broad gneralizations.

Posted by: HuckFinn | February 8, 2010 9:02 PM | Report abuse

Two words for republicans...CHICKEN SH#TS. Republicans will dodge, duck and weave, say this and that, but at the end of the day, THEY DO NOT WANT TO DO ANYTHING AT ALL. Keep it up republicans, soon the American people will wake up and see you don't want to do anything the next four years to help America or the President of the United States. You can only bitc# for so long before the bitc#ing gets tiresome.

Posted by: kubrickstan | February 8, 2010 9:01 PM | Report abuse

The Republicans are scared that they will look bad on TV, like they did a week ago. They just want to do talking points, and not have to defend specifics of their "bills." If they don't show up, then the discussion will go on without them, with experts slicing and dicing their "proposals." They will still look bad if they don't show up, and will be left whining that they didn't get everything they wanted in the conference.

Posted by: bigforkgirl | February 8, 2010 9:00 PM | Report abuse

This unwillingness to participate shows a total lack of sincerity by House Republicans. I think we knew they were playing a game all along. They appear to have scored political points by just distorting the President's and Democrats' ideas. Now is the time to expose this hypocrisy for what it is. The President should go ahead with his summit and save an empty chair in the front row to symbolize the Republicans' absence.

Posted by: Viewpoint2 | February 8, 2010 9:00 PM | Report abuse

Please, please, Republican leaders, do not attend this horrible excuse for a summit. Obama and Pelosi are forcing health care through by hook or by crook and I believe this invitation to the Republicans is a come-hither-from-the-spider-to-the-fly.

Posted by: sbduncaster | February 8, 2010 8:58 PM | Report abuse

I thought the idiotic house republicans wanted to be a part of health care reform discussions. People need to wake up and realize what absolute do-nothing hacks they are.

Posted by: mapdesigns | February 8, 2010 8:55 PM | Report abuse

Republicans seem to be afraid to show up because they will be seen on cable television as having very few, if any viable ideas on health care. The right wing author who wrote an article about liberals supposedly being condescending is further undermined in his credibility. Obama, Pelosi and most Democrats are arrogant, but Republicans in Congress are more so, in demanding the two bills passed by the House and Senate be completely dismantled, to assure the presence of a few Republicans, who will have little to offer anyway.

Posted by: Aprogressiveindependent | February 8, 2010 8:54 PM | Report abuse

Given what Obama and his Chicago Team may attempt to do (staged), think that serious members of Congress -- both parties -- should have 'read aheads' prior to committing their time.

They also need to be aware of the following:

http://hotlineoncall.nationaljournal.com/archives/2010/02/obama_hits_lowe.php

Posted by: wheeljc | February 8, 2010 8:53 PM | Report abuse

What a bunch of hypicrital "drips". It is no working with the republicans. They were voted in by their voters to do something, not do nothing!

Posted by: kebred | February 8, 2010 8:52 PM | Report abuse

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