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Anti-abortion Democrat Kildee says he will vote yes on health care bill

By Peter Slevin
CHICAGO - Anti-abortion forces who oppose President Obama's health-care overhaul suffered a significant defection Wednesday when Rep Dale E. Kildee (D-Mich.) announced that he would vote in favor of the proposal.

Kildee, describing himself as "a staunch pro-life member of Congress," said he is confident that the Senate bill under consideration would preserve a 33-year-old ban on federal funding for abortion and would provide insurance to millions of people who need it.

"We must not lose sight of what is at stake here - the lives of 31 million American children, adults and seniors - who don't have health insurance," Kildee said in a written statement. "There is nothing more pro-life than protecting the lives of 31 million Americans."

Rep. Bart Stupak, a fellow Michigan Democrat and Kildee ally, contends the Senate's language on abortion is not strong enough. He has vowed to marshal as many as a dozen Democratic votes against the measure.

"Some people are saying we have to vote for the Senate bill. That ain't going to happen," Stupak told The Post earlier this month.

Rep. Tom Perriello (D-Va.), an abortion foe who backed Stupak's approach when the House passed its version of health care reform last year, also announced this week that he could support the Senate language. The bill would allow people receiving federal subsidies to buy health insurance that covers abortion, but they would have to write a separate check for the abortion coverage.

Perriello stopped short of saying that he would vote for the final bill. The proposal would prevent federal tax dollars from paying for abortions, he said, and contains new programs "likely to reduce the number of abortions in this country in ways that move beyond politics toward a real impact on the culture of life."

A consortium representing 59,000 Catholic nuns distributed a letter to Congress on Wednesday urging passage of the health bill. Taking a position in opposition to the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops, the group urged what it called a "life-affirming 'yes' vote" for a bill that is "a crucial next step in realizing health care for all."

"Despite false claims to the contrary, the Senate bill will not provide taxpayer funding for elective abortions," stated the letter, signed by more than 50 religious leaders. "It will uphold longstanding conscience protections and it will make historic new investments -- $250 million - in support of pregnant women."

The group called the Senate measure "the real pro-life stance, and we as Catholics are all for it."

The National Right to Life Committee has said that a vote for the measure would be a "career-defining pro-abortion vote." Five Republican lawmakers, led by Orrin Hatch (R-Utah), scheduled a press conference for Thursday to oppose the Senate bill on the basis of the abortion language.

By Peter Slevin  |  March 17, 2010; 5:24 PM ET
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Dale Kildee: Talk to another priest. The one who told you to vote Yes this time doesn't care about your soul.

Posted by: Fleur1 | March 19, 2010 12:56 PM | Report abuse

ShannoF - first off the nut Gutierrez (my rep) already is supporting the bill. Second...I am calling all the representatives you have listed to oppose it. Get with the program please. Lastly, here is some data on those so called 59,000 nuns...

The letter urging passage of the bill claimed its signers represented 59,000 women religious, roughly the total number in the United States. But the major superiors' council represents more than 10,000 nuns, and LCWR, founded in 1956, says on its Web site that it represents about 90 percent of the nation's nuns.

I hate when Libs do not do research!

Posted by: smts12 | March 19, 2010 2:44 AM | Report abuse

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Posted by: saltzmas | March 18, 2010 2:05 PM | Report abuse

food, shelter, basic needs, ect. is something that i fight for everyday and i will fight for this bill...you don't need to because your probably some hot shot that makes 500,000 grand a year but for a kid like me just about to get out of high school its hard for me to make a decent living and not have to worry about my health. in 5 years from now i could have a family and the bill will be in full effect by then so i'm for this bill. one more thing keep religion out of politics it just screws everything up!!!

Posted by: crazykid1 | March 18, 2010 11:10 AM | Report abuse

DemoncRats and their fans are tools, plain and simple. HC is NOT a civil, nor basic right under the Constitution of the United States, the Declaration of Independence, OR Federal law.


You cannot take a good, and make it into a right, as this is contrary to our American values. We have the right to free speech (until the tyrants try and take THAT away from us TOO, and tell us what to think, what to read, what to watch, and what to eat), worship, privacy, think- these don't come from the government, but from Humanity, or God.

HC is a GOOD, or PRODUCT that must be PURCHASED, such as food, shelter, basic needs, etc. These GOODS or PRODUCTS do NOT come from the government, because we as INDIVIDUALS must PAY FOR THEM OURSELVES!

You can't take a good, and ,ake it into a right- and that's what Kuchinich, in his warped little socialist mind wants to do, along with the other elitist progressives such as Obama, Pelosi, and Reid- and all of the other DemoncRats that aligns themselves with this sleight of hand.

What they need to realize is, many Americans don't want to become generational wards of the state- where the government takes care of you from cradle to grave. Most of us are ambitious, and goal oriented enough to go get what we need and want, instead of sitting around like whelping pups, waiting to suckle on the breasts of the government. These Parasitical losers are the ones making the crooks think it's okay to do this to an entire nation.

I find the present admin to be Domestic Enemies, and should be treated as such.

Posted by: obamaalmighT | March 18, 2010 9:55 AM | Report abuse

Congressman Brian Baird (D) from WA state "still has not made up his mind!"

Please encourage him to support his constituents who want this passed and expect his vote Phone: (202) 225-3536

Posted by: larry9 | March 18, 2010 4:27 AM | Report abuse

What percent of all religious leaders does 50 people represent? ...

I wonder why they got so few.

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Most of them were leaders of orders. How many orders of Catholic Nuns do you think there are?

Posted by: mason08 | March 18, 2010 2:38 AM | Report abuse

What percent of all religious leaders does 50 people represent? ...

I wonder why they got so few.

Posted by: sally62 | March 18, 2010 2:26 AM | Report abuse

"but they would have to write a separate check for the abortion coverage"
________________

When the American people realize what a coup this was and start having to pay for just the administration of it, I wonder where these people will be!

All cynical lies and arm twisting!

Posted by: sally62 | March 18, 2010 2:24 AM | Report abuse

ShannoF, you certainly LIE about Obamacare not funding abortions!

If Obama gets his way, Obamacare will FORCE us to pay for abortions, infanticide (late-term abortion) and probably euthanasia, in spite of Obama’s lies and tricks like the Stupak amendment.

Lies do not change Obama's pro-abortion and pro-infanticide (late-term abortion) stand, nor the aberrant stands of Obama's Health Care Czar Ezekiel Emanuel and Science Czar John Holdren.

Lies do not change the FACT that we are broke and Obamacare will further destroy our economy, our future and the future of our children and grandchildren.

Lies do not change the FACT that Obamacare is another scam to enslave us.

No real Catholic can support an evil SCAM that goes against REAL FREEDOM, TRUTH, COMPASION, and everything the Catholic Church stands for.

Posted by: AntonioSosa | March 18, 2010 2:07 AM | Report abuse

ShannoF, 59,000 Catholic nuns support the Obamacare scam?! You LIE. You LIE about the Obamacare scam NOT funding abortions and most likely about the number of nuns.

There may be a few nuns (but NOT 59,000) who have been dumbed down by a a substandard and politicized education as per the warnings of Soviet defector Yuri Bezmenov: (http://www.dailymotion.com/video/k6KUDv1wzraWhwl)

Regarding the Catholic Health Association, that may be one more of the "Catholic" groups funded and used by George Soros, an Atheist and a U.S. enemy who invested billions to get Obama elected and continues to invest to support Obama's scams and destroy the U.S.

Posted by: AntonioSosa | March 18, 2010 2:02 AM | Report abuse

59,000 Catholic nuns, the Catholic Health Association, and leading pro-life Senators and Congress members all support our President's health care reform because it would NOT fund abortions. 30,000 Americans die every year due to a lack of health insurance. The real pro-life position is to support health care reform and pass the bill now.

If you live in Illinois, call the following Representatives and ask them to vote the pro-life position in favor of health care reform.

Melissa Bean - 847-517-2927

Jerry Costello - (202) 225-5661

Luis Gutierrez - (202) 225-8203

Bill Foster - (202) 225-2976

Debbie Halvorson - (202) 225-3635

Posted by: ShannoF | March 18, 2010 1:33 AM | Report abuse

Anyone who votes no on health care reform should be stripped of their cadillac health plans paid for by OUR tax dollars. IMMEDIATELY. Not to be restored at our expense until they realize that other Americans deserve the same.

Posted by: windrider2 | March 18, 2010 12:22 AM | Report abuse

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Posted by: rritkonlyyou | March 17, 2010 11:07 PM | Report abuse

Did you here the one about the guy’s wife that killed all of his children because she wanted to make more room for the home invaders?

Oh what.

It wasn't his wife. It was his country.

Back in the 60’s the Federal Government came into the public schools and brainwashed us as little children with the message that the children we were about to have were unwanted because the population was rising so fast. They launched a program called, “Zero Population Growth”. They pushed Family Planning and birth control pills. Now they call the same programs, "Safe Sex" but the results are the same. I think you and I both know that you only have to trick people for their few child bearing years and there is no going back.

Many of us never had a say in the future of our unborn.

I am the result of two living cells. One from each of my parents. They are the result of two living cells, one from each of their parents. I wasn't just born. I am a continuation of life. I am a living thing that reaches back into time perhaps 400 million years and the result of billions of joining of pairs of cells. It is possible that if you were to follow my cells back to my parent’s cells and beyond that my family tree touches every living thing here on earth. That is if we limit ourselves to believing life was created here on earth. If it rained down from the immensity of the universe it could reach back into that immensity of time and space, and who knows what relationships and who knows what species.

My family line succeeded, at least until I came up against the Federal Government.

I have seen the Federal Government do little else to control the population.

The open borders, United States laws only apply to some, is a serious slap in the face. No. Not a slap in the face. It reaches well beyond that. Maybe back to the beginning of time and stretch to the bounds of the universe.

Posted by: Stokeybob | March 17, 2010 11:06 PM | Report abuse

And what was he promised? Most likely something that he will never see. His 30 pieces of gold will cost him dearly in November, if not before.

Posted by: gmclain | March 17, 2010 9:15 PM | Report abuse

If I'm going to have to support 40 million more freeloaders, at least one ov them could come over and mow my lawn.

Posted by: jhr1 | March 17, 2010 9:07 PM | Report abuse

I make these comments as one who was raised Roman Catholic and went to Catholic schools.

I really respect this man. To me, it is unconscionable to deprive millions of needed health care they don't have (including millions of poor children,)especially when, as this man says, "Despite false claims to the contrary, the Senate bill will not provide taxpayer funding for elective abortions. It will uphold longstanding conscience protections and it will make historic new investments -- $250 million - in support of pregnant women."

If the Roman Catholics want to further restrict abortion funding, they should do it under separate legislation, not deny coverage to millions. Otherwise, their claim that health care is a human right seems fatuous to me.

Posted by: tinyjab40 | March 17, 2010 8:52 PM | Report abuse

To all the RepubliGOONs and TEA BAGGERs posting and/or reading here who think 'deem and pass' is illegal:

Do you think that the decennial Census should be conducted, in part or in full, by statistical sampling?

You don't?

Do you know that it was a RepubliGOON House that passed a bill prior to the 2000 Census by 'deem and pass' that prohibited that particular Census from being conducted with any portion of it being done by statistical sampling?

So if the courts should overturn a bill passed by 'deem and pass', we can expect all of you to be in favor of conducting at least some portion of the census by statistical sampling?

Posted by: critter69 | March 17, 2010 8:44 PM | Report abuse

I would be against any federal funding of abortion. However, what I find weird is that some people can't seem to agree what the bill says. Either it's incredibly arcane or people are lying.

Posted by: Matthew_DC | March 17, 2010 8:41 PM | Report abuse

"There is nothing more pro-life than protecting the lives of 31 million Americans."

Holy moly! An anti-choicer who **gets it**.

Posted by: hitpoints | March 17, 2010 8:37 PM | Report abuse

In so far as Stupak, there are times when it is better to have your enemy in plain sight occupying the seat than a "so-so" I don't know if I will be there for you when I am needed friend. On that note, I would support getting rid of Stupak for another Dem, and turning my head walking away if he were to face a Repub. Good that he be gone!

Posted by: october30 | March 17, 2010 7:59 PM | Report abuse

Another BRIBE at our expense! I wonder how much Obama is stealing from our children and grandchildren to pay to this new bribe!

The bribes alone are going to cost us billions!

To get the House to pass the Obamacare scam, Obama and his comrades lied, manipulated, intimidated, coerced and bribed (at our expense) Big Pharma, the AARP, the AMA, “Catholics” like Cao, insurance companies, etc.

To get the Senate to pass the scam, Obama and his comrades perfected the lies, the manipulation, and the intimidation. And they bribed (at our expense) additional organizations and people like Ben Nelson, Blanche Lincoln, and Mary Landrieu.

And they seem willing to continue BRIBING everyone at our expense!

The intent of the bill is NOT to improve anything. It's just government control (socialism/Marxism). Period.

Posted by: AntonioSosa | March 17, 2010 7:55 PM | Report abuse

If Hatch, Stupak and these other idiots want to return to their caves in Afghanistan, we'll raise the funds to send them there. They'll love going back to their natural environment: elimination of women's rights, obsessing about a fetus, hatred of gays, religiously biased "schools," abstinence preaching, "family-values," and of course more blending of church and state. These clowns will fit right in and love bonding with their theocratic brothers.

Posted by: revbookburn | March 17, 2010 7:51 PM | Report abuse

inmanorj and straightline:

By deciding he could vote for this bill, Kildee alienates single issue anti abortion voters, but those Republicans weren't going to vote for him anyway. He loses very few voters who weigh all the issues involved, and realize that Hyde language in various bills probably hasn't prevented a single abortion.

You see, when a woman is considering an abortion, one question that never gets asked is, "Will the government pay for this?"

Compared to the vast lack of effect Hyde has on preventing abortion, having prenatal care provided by this bill will prevent many spontaneous abortions that are caused by lack of available health care. Those DO happen, all too often.

Posted by: ceflynline | March 17, 2010 7:23 PM | Report abuse

"Five Republican lawmakers, led by Orrin Hatch (R-Utah), scheduled a press conference for Thursday to oppose the Senate bill on the basis of the abortion language."

Neat. The bill passed the Senate several months ago and NOW Hatch and his buddies say they will vote against it.

Or do those very late five mean the Reconciliation side car, which ISN'T totally written yet, but doesn't even mention Stupak's addendum?

Posted by: ceflynline | March 17, 2010 7:17 PM | Report abuse

To Straightline: Kildee is a suitable name for this squawker. I agree completely with your comment that he must not be running for office and Michigan would do well to keep an eye on his personal finances, (and perhaps his next gov. job). Good post.

Posted by: inmanorj | March 17, 2010 7:03 PM | Report abuse

Limbaugh the second smart one in the group also said " I'll just tell you this, if this passes and it's five years from now and all that stuff gets implemented -- I am leaving the country. I'll go to Costa Rica." .well too bad ,Costa Rica has had health care for all in 60 years already.( should Costa Rica taxpayers cover health care for this mad man ? )
Republicans :

Don't You learn any thing from housing crisis ? like housing cost in the past ,health care cost is out of control .the next crisis will be health care crisis if health care reform failed ,millions of people may die .

Please forget about Republicans ,pass health care reform NOW.

Posted by: reformss

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Limbaugh is a funny guy. He praised to high heaven the health care he got in Hawaii along with all those unnecessary tests he received. All he had was a little gas and he said all it cost was about half the price of an SUV. That's all.

And the funniest part is that Hawaii has universal health care coverage and he's raving about how great the care was. LOL.

Posted by: James10 | March 17, 2010 6:32 PM | Report abuse

Forgive me, I can't resist --

Dottydo -- citation, please? I'm unfamiliar with that provision. Or did you forget the word, "should"?

Posted by: Gunga2009 | March 17, 2010 6:31 PM | Report abuse

I guess that right to life thing isn't quite as important as whatever bribe Blowbama gave him. Typical, slime liberal politician.

Posted by: HabanaJoe | March 17, 2010 6:30 PM | Report abuse

Stupak is an anomaly and he will be defeated in November.

Posted by: truth1 | March 17, 2010 6:28 PM | Report abuse

dottydo has been hitting the wine pretty heavy. LOL.

How about all the members of Congress that appropriate funds to Israel? Israel has a national health care system and abortion is legal.

Clearly those that vote for the appropriation of our tax dollars to Israel are for aborting Jews. ... Send an e-mail to your GOP members of Congress and ask them how long they'll continue to fund abortions in Israel.

Posted by: James10 | March 17, 2010 6:27 PM | Report abuse

Then he is pro abortion and a liar about it.

Moral fibre does not run deep in the tyrants.

People will enjoy these people on TV crying they didn't mean it later.

Violation of the Oath of Office is sufficient cause for immediate and permanent removal from office, retroactive to the date of first violation even if that violation occurred many years or decades ago, including requirement that an Oath of Office violator return all pay and expense reimbursements and have all personal recorded votes voided and removed from the legislative record back to the date of first violation.

Posted by: dottydo | March 17, 2010 5:58 PM | Report abuse

LOL obviously Kildee must not be running for re-election. Michigan watchdogs should keep a close watch on his bank accounts and property in the coming months.

Posted by: Straightline | March 17, 2010 5:42 PM | Report abuse

USA, USA, USA, USA, USA, USA, USA, USA, USA, USA,.... Kill the bill.

Posted by: 45upnorth | March 17, 2010 5:40 PM | Report abuse

Other countries they are broke because of serving their citizens ( offer health care for all),that should be proundly broke .We are broke because of killing our own people :
- 45,000 Americans die because of laking health insurances.
- 100,000 Irag citizens died in the war .
- 10,000 American died in the war .50,000 injury permenatly need food stamp for whole their life .
-Spend $ 700 billions on military ( $ 7 trillions in 10 years )
our broke is shamful broke .

Posted by: reformss | March 17, 2010 5:32 PM | Report abuse

I am sick of republicans ,I will never vote for them again .
They are so crazy people .The health care reform bill now is similar to their bill back in 1993 ,so why they oppose It ??? They said waite & start over ,when ? how long ? We have been waiting for 60 years , how long more ? Shame on them.
Now even Catholic Nuns who never involved in politic urge congress pass heath care reform .
When they know the bill will pass ,this morning one republican congressman said "Insurance companies should not make profit on sick people ,should not deny pre-existing condition .... go on and go on " .if so why they oppose the reform ??? what a shame !

According to Republican party claim ,Sarah Palin is the smartest one in group and here is what She said " We used to hustle on over the border for health care ....and I think,isn't that kind of ironic now ? " She admitting that her family used to go to Canada for medical treatment when she was a child , Canada has a single -payer system , which Palin oppose ! (Too bad for Canadian tax payers )

Limbaugh the second smart one in the group also said " I'll just tell you this, if this passes and it's five years from now and all that stuff gets implemented -- I am leaving the country. I'll go to Costa Rica." .well too bad ,Costa Rica has had health care for all in 60 years already.( should Costa Rica taxpayers cover health care for this mad man ? )
Republicans :

Don't You learn any thing from housing crisis ? like housing cost in the past ,health care cost is out of control .the next crisis will be health care crisis if health care reform failed ,millions of people may die .

Please forget about Republicans ,pass health care reform NOW.

Posted by: reformss | March 17, 2010 5:31 PM | Report abuse

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