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Biden to Obama: "A big [expletive] deal"

After introducing Obama at Tuesday's health-care bill signing ceremony, Vice President Biden turned to the president and said, "This is a big [expletive] deal."

Shortly after the event, press secretary Robert Gibbs said on Twitter, "Powerful moment when the President described the people he was signing this for and for the millions back in control of their health care ... And yes Mr. Vice President, you're right."

It wasn't the first time Biden was caught cursing on an open mic.

By Rachel Weiner  |  March 23, 2010; 12:53 PM ET
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Says jcluma ("March 24, 2010 5:36 PM"): "Thank you, Joe. You said exactly what most people were thinking, in the people's language."

That's right. And the dictionaries suggest that it's only another word for congress.

Posted by: LeighOats | March 24, 2010 7:49 PM | Report abuse

Thank you, Joe. You said exactly what most people were thinking, in the people's language.

Posted by: jcluma | March 24, 2010 5:36 PM | Report abuse

Yes it is a BIG F'ing deal that is why the Republicans are willing to sell their integrity and sould to the far right...looking for answers ...because they cannot top this BIG F'ing deal.....

Posted by: sabrina2 | March 24, 2010 5:29 PM | Report abuse

Here making an apologetic Grauniad-style amendment to my post of "March 24, 2010 3:16 PM":

Says alloleo ("March 24, 2010 10:39 AM"): "If I hadn't read this story on the Manchester Guardian website [. . .]."

You didn't. That newspaper title vanished on Monday 24 August 1959 with the first appearance of the masthead that was worded simply "The Guardian". And nowadays The Guardian is headquartered in Kings Cross, so I suppose you can call it the London Guardian if you insist. :-)

Posted by: LeighOats | March 24, 2010 4:18 PM | Report abuse

Says alloleo ("March 24, 2010 10:39 AM"): "If I hadn't read this story on the Manchester Guardian website [. . .]."

You didn't. The final edition of the newspaper of that name was published on Monday 24 August 1959. And nowadays The Guardian is headquartered in Kings Cross, so I suppose you can call it the London Guardian if you insist. :-)

Posted by: LeighOats | March 24, 2010 3:16 PM | Report abuse

Posted by IQ168: If a Republican does something like that, the obama press calls for his beheading. If a demonkrat does it, it a ho-hum ... everybody does it.
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The main difference I see is that when the Republican politicians have used expletives or have been otherwise out of order, it was used as a personal attack (example: Former VP Cheney on the Senate floor to Sen. Leahy). Biden used it in the way most of us use the word... as a means of emphasis, not followed by the word "You", "Yourself", nor preceded by the word "Mother". That is a huge difference.

Posted by: jgmann | March 24, 2010 2:18 PM | Report abuse

Will the men in this country please grow up! I am so tired of the juvenile exhuberance shown by otherwise responsible individuals. How do we expect our young people to use good judgement and manners when someone like VP Biden speaks in this manner? VP Biden owes all of us an apology. For things to improve in terms of behavior in our adolescents the adults must begin to act and speak like adults.

Posted by: carolsbarber | March 24, 2010 1:19 PM | Report abuse

Democrat Tradition is restored.

FDR gave us "The New deal."
Harry Truman Gave us "The Fair Deal."
With BHO we are going to get "The Big F***king Deal." Bend over America.

Posted by: allieoop1 | March 24, 2010 1:02 PM | Report abuse

Hey, I love Joe. You get what you see with him and I mean it. You don't get more honest politicians than Joe. Joe doesn't do sugar-coating, mincing words like that devil re-incarnate Karl Rove.

BTW, it is indeed a big f*** deal. Absolutely. Love you man, Joe!

Posted by: thisworld | March 24, 2010 12:24 PM | Report abuse

For the past year, the President and the Vice President have gone through hell and back. The extreme negative behavior coming from members of his own party and the Republicans was unbelieveable. So, to the both of them I salute -
"Yes We Can" / "Fired Up - Ready to Go"

and yes, yes, YES - it is a big fu-k-ng deal.

Posted by: sun52shine | March 24, 2010 11:14 AM | Report abuse

Apologize and move on. The comment was in poor tase, but not directed any one (or group) of person(s). Cheney's slip WAS. Using improper language is a FAR CRY from verbal abuse.
Bad move, but no harm - no foul.

Posted by: KJR1 | March 24, 2010 11:00 AM | Report abuse

Joe B. is funny. Strange, but funny. He's not the worry of the country. Mr. Barak "Rev. Wright" Obama and the rest of his devious administration will be the cause of us free-falling into a 3rd world country status.

Posted by: BobBumleg | March 24, 2010 11:00 AM | Report abuse

Why should anyone be surprised? What else would one expect from a couple of low life, two-bit politicians?

Posted by: mpixton1 | March 24, 2010 10:13 AM | Report abuse
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Soooo, when Reagan, Bush and Chaney said their curse words and had their slips of the tongue that was caught on the mic as well (see report on Today show - 3/24/10 and CNN) they would be two-bit politicans too. HUM - our President and Vice President are in good company I see.

Posted by: love2much SE | March 24, 2010 10:57 AM | Report abuse

What the big fcuking deal?--It is a big fcuking deal!

Posted by: Beingsensible | March 24, 2010 10:49 AM | Report abuse

You'd think a veteran pol like Vice President Biden, who's been around forever (or so it seems) would know about open mics, and be wary of them. You'd be wrong. www.eightfits.blogspot.com

Posted by: Baxter24 | March 24, 2010 10:47 AM | Report abuse

If I hadn't read this story on the Manchester Guardian website, I'd still be wondering what exactly Biden said. The Guardian didn't swoop in with all the prim-and-proper, Victorian, "oh my he said a bad word!" censorship that the U.S. press felt was necessary.

Posted by: alloleo | March 24, 2010 10:39 AM | Report abuse

Why should anyone be surprised? What else would one expect from a couple of low life, two-bit politicians?

Posted by: mpixton1 | March 24, 2010 10:13 AM | Report abuse

Why should anyone be surprised? What else would one expect from a couple of low life, two-bit politicians?

Posted by: mpixton1 | March 24, 2010 10:13 AM | Report abuse

I hear that next week there will be a farting and belching contest in the oval office.

Too bad Rogers is gone, she could have had a premier spot at the table.

My money is on Hillary.

Posted by: VirginiaConservative | March 24, 2010 10:00 AM | Report abuse

How in the world would even the most deranged liberal/ progressive/ demonkrat/ socialist/ fascist/ communitarian/ totalitarian (whatever you guys are calling yourselves today) use one bad example to excuse another inexcusable breech of decency? If a Republican does something like that, the obama press calls for his beheading. If a demonkrat does it, it a ho-hum ... everybody does it.

Posted by: IQ168 | March 24, 2010 10:00 AM | Report abuse

whats the big deal? joe did not use the N word. politicians are supposed to be smart enough not to get caught.so much for our elected officials.

Posted by: pofinpa | March 24, 2010 9:51 AM | Report abuse

Poor Joe. Would that his brain was as active as his mouth!

Posted by: Lilycat1 | March 24, 2010 9:45 AM | Report abuse

He was really glee about how they just f... the country.

What great leaders we have. What comes out of the mouth comes from the heart.

Posted by: hanocul6 | March 24, 2010 9:18 AM | Report abuse

A law giving medical care
To all's an historic affair;
And so Biden was loath
To forget that his oath
Prescribed him to solemnly swear.

News Short n' Sweet by JFD8
http://twitter.com/JFD8

Posted by: jd121 | March 24, 2010 9:17 AM | Report abuse

It is a big f***in' deal.

Posted by: LeftCoastNative | March 24, 2010 9:15 AM | Report abuse

"Let me get this straight" Posted by: tjmlrc was an awesome post.

This shines on Biden only. What Chaney did and said makes you view chaney that way. Biden is an dufuss. Not just this incident but as an overall grade. Didnt really know him before he stepped into the VP seat. But dosnt make me proud in any manner.

Posted by: ccharles1 | March 24, 2010 9:14 AM | Report abuse

I use F-word every way and every day, but I don't tell people to go F((beep))K themselves. Joe is normal guy, but still using that word, not OK,

Posted by: BOBSTERII | March 24, 2010 9:06 AM | Report abuse

This is incident, is indicative of the TRASH that is coming out of the Obama administration.

I expected nothing less from hoodrats like Rahm & Obama.

Posted by: dashriprock | March 24, 2010 9:02 AM | Report abuse

Every vice president gotta do it.
(at least once a year)
But, NOT COOL!!!!

Posted by: BOBSTERII | March 24, 2010 8:56 AM | Report abuse

Poor Joe....damn mics are always open and the foot keeps getting into the mouth.

Posted by: Carlpaguy | March 24, 2010 8:45 AM | Report abuse

One of my kids asked me, "Why does Biden always look so crazy?"

Posted by: thinker16 | March 24, 2010 8:39 AM | Report abuse

Bush claimed the Constitution was, "just another F***ing piece of Paper."

Republicans agreed!

Posted by: ddoiron1 | March 24, 2010 8:30 AM | Report abuse

When Cheney said the F-word the Post printed it; here it is censored. Why the difference?

Posted by: subwayguy | March 24, 2010 8:21 AM | Report abuse

At least Biden has never said "Go F--k yourself" to a Senator on the floor of the Senate like Vice-President Dick cheney did! I do now excuse him for his comment, however.

I don't know why anyone has to use the F word, let alone in speaking to our President or in our Congress. It shows a lack of dignity in my opinion..... and a shallow vocabulary!

Posted by: cashmere1 | March 24, 2010 8:18 AM | Report abuse

Biden, a typical leftist and a real class act.

Posted by: thebink | March 24, 2010 8:16 AM | Report abuse

Go Biden! He's such a nice fellow. Back in Delaware, where he has no fear of losing elections, he waited in a doctor's waiting room with me and my kid, who was playing with toys on the floor. Biden knelt down and talked to my kid for a few minutes. He didn't need to. Just a friendly, talkative guy.

Posted by: HookedOnThePost | March 24, 2010 8:13 AM | Report abuse

This is a news story? Who gives a ****?

Posted by: nico5000 | March 24, 2010 8:03 AM | Report abuse

BIDEN - Please get a psychiatric exam, you are the epiromy of a dumb asz, Obammy must regret every second that he brought you on board!

Posted by: Sparky15 | March 24, 2010 8:01 AM | Report abuse

Let me get this straight.
We're going to be gifted with a health care plan written by a committee whose chairman says he doesn't understand it, passed by a Congress that hasn't read it but exempts themselves from it, to be signed by a president who also hasn't read it and who smokes, with funding administered by a treasury chief who didn't pay his taxes, to be overseen by a surgeon general who is obese, and financed by a country that's broke.

What the hell could possibly go wrong?

In that case it probably is a big ******* deal!


Posted by: tjmlrc | March 24, 2010 7:56 AM | Report abuse

Lessee, we can't pay for the entitlements we already have so the solution is to add another one to the mix. Especially one that will be more expensive and expansive than as it was presented.

Posted by: ronjaboy | March 24, 2010 7:39 AM | Report abuse

I don't want to hear one single word about what Joe Biden may or may not have said, privately, that was overheard accidentally, after the filth, garbage, trash, ugly, hateful, digusting, venomous explitives used by the Republicans both on the floor of the United States House, by Dick Cheney in the United States Senate and by paid Republican hate mongers on the steps of the Capitol. How dare you even run this story!

Posted by: miesque | March 23, 2010 2:16 PM
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Yeah! And the filth, garbage, trash, ugly, hateful, digusting, venomous expletives used by Jesse Jackson about obama when he didn't know the mic was on.
You tell em miesque!!
Forgot about that one didn't ya?
LOL LOL LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: tjmlrc | March 24, 2010 7:34 AM | Report abuse

After all the CRAP Mr. Biden has to work through to get anything done in this country he can say that. It is not good in front of an open mic. But it is true.

Go USA Go Obama. Go Biden. Get it done. Make our country the best, for everyone.

Amen

Posted by: Tobor58 | March 24, 2010 7:28 AM | Report abuse

Good for him!!!!

Posted by: linda_521 | March 24, 2010 7:20 AM | Report abuse

Did anyone notice how President Obama rolled his eyes and blew off Vice President Biden. It was not a very warm embrace.

Posted by: bobbo2 | March 24, 2010 7:09 AM | Report abuse

Haha! That's funny.

Posted by: GeorgHerbet | March 24, 2010 6:59 AM | Report abuse

To be totally honest it is a very big deal, no matter how anyone tries to explain it! I think ease dropping is shameful in any event and the journalist that made a private moment public should be restricted from getting in the door again.

Enough drama, let all elected officials focus on refining the legislation and making it all it can be. This was a battle that has been fought for over 50 years that I can personally attest to. I have been a registered voter over 45 years. I am now 66 years old and will be 67 God willing in 3 months!!

I remember when LBJ got Medicare passed it was another frantic Republican moment. At that time I was in my early twenties and thought to myself this is something that isn't going to effect me. People were talking this is a socialist, government takeover of health care or they are communists on and on, but now every senior in the country is shouting take your hands off my health care. Hello is anybody home Medicare is government subsidized.

Don't lose sight of the forest from within the trees!

At times, some of the people in this country get worked up over things that contradict reality.

I'm glad the democrats did the right thing to get this reform underway because just like Medicare the road to the best possible end result is yet to come.

Go Obama, Go USA rebound, and get stronger everyday.

Posted by: rsn2000 | March 24, 2010 6:46 AM | Report abuse

The ignorance of "CommonSenseisaVirtue" is astounding. Morons like him/her are one reason I fear we are headed for class warfare.

Posted by: Bearbank | March 24, 2010 6:27 AM | Report abuse

BFD - Hey right on VP, I said the very same thing to my son as we watched all those brave and dedicated women and men. Add to this there was not one Republican there to take part is this 100+ year attempt to change an American wrong. This is not only about Health Care, it is also a clear message that the People are ready to take back America from the greed and corruption that is so obvious to all of us. Good going Mr. Pres and VPres and all the REAL men and women who brought about this BFD change. :)

Posted by: eaglehawkaroundsince1937 | March 24, 2010 4:50 AM | Report abuse

I never fully understood before the wisdom of picking Joe Biden for VP.

Now I know.

Impeachment Insurance.

Posted by: EowynR | March 24, 2010 4:39 AM | Report abuse

The main difference here between REpublicans and Democrats using the F word can be understood when considering when it,s used . When a fanatical REpublican uses the word it's usually when someone in the third world is getting killed and the rich multi-national REpublican horde gloats as overkill munitions and superior technology has created vast profits for a very few zionist , federal reserve banking families , like bush , cheney , walker , and Isreal which has grown enormously wealthy off of American taxpayers in the last 30 years , more under bush/cheney . When a Democrat uses the F-word , it is usually when someone in the the world is getting Help and/or there is a group of people receiving newsworthy attention and We're just glad that the truth got out despite all the money pumped into media/propaganda systems in place to manipulate the weak minded , easliy lied to REpublican American .

Posted by: beenliedto | March 24, 2010 4:07 AM | Report abuse

Who the f*ck cares if Joe Biden dropped the f*cking F bomb? I do it myself all the time. Honest to Pete, is there so little going on in the world that the Post has the space to devote to this not burning not issue?

Posted by: nicekid | March 24, 2010 3:53 AM | Report abuse

It IS a big ficking deal!

Posted by: ib422000 | March 24, 2010 3:34 AM | Report abuse

The F-Bomb? WHO F*$%N Cares?? Cheney shot another man! Really??? Yes this is a BFD! So many men tried to acheive health care reform and this administration made it happen. However, Obama has been in office for one year. Where are the flying cars? Why isn't our DOW Jones at 20,000 points? Obama said change will come! LOL give him more time. He already acomplished what many presidents tried and failed to do, granted he did it with a dem majority, but it got done. Now that this is done, lets see what else he has up his sleeve. I will not judge until his term is almost over (unless he had a "mission accomplished" banner around christmas time when the senate voted for the bill). I would rather pay higher taxes so other people would have a chance to fight deadly(and expensive) diseases like cancer. Like Bush was any better and Palin is a joke. Show me a REAL good GOP presidental Pres and VP candidate. McCain would of been a great president, but then he brought Palin as his VP candidate. What a slap in the face by the republican party. First Bush and Elmer Fudd? and then trying to sell us McCain and Palin? F$%& You Republican Party, F$#$ YOU!! A total insult to the GOP. After the 2008, you should call yourselves the Grand Old JOKE! What next? Arnold Schwarzenegger as the Next VP candidate?(Thank God he is a foreigner, or he will kill this country). Right-wings, you need to find a candidate that will save the conservative views, instead of these jokes. Republicans alone will be responsible for converting this country into socialism if they keep supporting these jokes!

Posted by: mgarza82 | March 24, 2010 3:17 AM | Report abuse

I think it is time to modify the Senate. It is becoming ridiculous that a few, barely-inhabited states such as Montana and Alaska are able to paralyze our entire government with their nonsense. I am tired of the couple million uneducated white-right extremists having the power to stop progress for everyone else.

You guys never use facts, never argue with evidence... It isn't the stone age anymore. You have no substance and the fact that you spread ridiculous rumors just makes you guys look like the morons that you continue to prove yourselves to be. Keep making statements to the media such as "we need to stand up to experts" lol. What a joke. What makes you and your high school diploma think that you know better than financial or healthcare experts??? Nearly 70% of people with post-graduate degrees are Democrats aka people with expertise in their fields as opposed to raging lunatics screaming that America is falling apart.

Posted by: CommonSenseisaVirtue | March 24, 2010 3:11 AM | Report abuse

WHO CARES.

Do some actual reporting.

Posted by: privacy3 | March 24, 2010 2:58 AM | Report abuse

History can teach us a lot. It is made and interpreted over time so don't decide yet.

All the brainless cheering is SOOOO like that of the socialists in France when Mitterand finally won the presidency.

And as Obama and his lot, they went from lie to backtracing on promises to even illegal acts...

I wonder what the cheering people have to do with making some leaders think they can get away with anything they want (Nixon, Clinton, Bush and now Obama) The more the cheering, the more daring (Hitler, Mao, Stalin, Castro)

Should citizens in any Deocracy be more wary of their leaders and aware of what message they give ... or just "trust" leaving the payment for it for later generations....

Posted by: sally62 | March 24, 2010 2:47 AM | Report abuse

I heard all this and I am chuckling. Real hard. Sound much 'kinder' than when used by another-- all riled up.

Really, I think Joe was caught up in the excitment of the moment. Should I win a million bucks tomorrow, not sure how/what I would say under my breath if I thought no one would hear me. In short, we are not perfect. An Oxford Dictionary does not always suffice in poetry/prose. When we truly want to express ourselves.

I happen to love Joe.. The Tempest in the TEAPOT is over. He's forgiven. Now lets talk JOBS. And forget about BOMBS. http://www.zipinpolitics.com

Posted by: Victoria5 | March 24, 2010 2:42 AM | Report abuse

16,500 more IRS goons dunning and intimidating the SMALL BUSINESS OWNERS of America in the continuing SHAKE DOWN RACKET that is the DEEM-n-rat Party STRONGARM tactic against the USA.

Just makes me want to go out and HIRE somebody, NOT!

Yeah, it a BFD.

Posted by: dumpbama | March 24, 2010 2:20 AM | Report abuse

It's true, Joe. It is fraking awesome. People are comparing this to when Cheney got busted calling a reporter an axehole and the President agreed with him. The difference is that one is a snarky, mean and nasty thing to say about someone. The other is an expression in a moment of exuberance and happiness.

Isn't that a major difference between the two Administrations.
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Couldn't agree with you more..Focking is truly an expression of happiness.

Posted by: pt1836metz | March 24, 2010 2:19 AM | Report abuse

Obama has the power to declare SMOKING of cigarettes ILLEGAL.

Why doesn't he do that?

Oh, yeah, I forgot.

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Posted by: dumpbama | March 24, 2010 2:00 AM | Report abuse

I am not so much concerned about what Biden said, but more so concerned that nearly every news outlet in the US, failed to at least point it out. The first I read about it was in the UK's Guardian.

If this was not such a big deal as most of the liberals are saying it is, why not cover it? They certainly make a point to show the Cheney said it, so why the cover up?

You know this is exactly how the N.S.D.A.P. started out, just before the slaughtered all the Jews, in the name of National Security. HIEL THE FUHRER OBAMA!

Posted by: xatiannorthsea | March 24, 2010 1:58 AM | Report abuse

I just read a recent comment and it echoed my thoughts exactly. Who cares??? Why do journalists waste their time and ours on foolishness????

Posted by: Formerrepublican | March 24, 2010 1:55 AM | Report abuse

Actually, Joe is the funniest thing about the Obama Admin. Actually, who cares?

Posted by: Auburninbp | March 24, 2010 1:49 AM | Report abuse

To all the faux-indignant critics of Joe Biden:

Where were you when VP Dick Cheney told Senator Patrick Leahy "Go F@#% Yourself" on the floor of the U.S. Senate?

Posted by: HughBriss | March 24, 2010 1:49 AM | Report abuse

Emergency! Got to pass the Bill NOW! People are DYING NOW! The Reboobs are KILLING Citizens NOW! 45,000 Americans are DYING every year NOW!

So, WHEN do the bennies, saving all those Reboob VICTIM Americans kick in? 2014.

Either the DEEM-n-craps LIED about the 45K plus DEATHS at the hands of the Reboobs or, they really just don't care about the purported 180,000 Americans they said would die without HC, now that they have their Bill in place.

Posted by: dumpbama | March 24, 2010 1:48 AM | Report abuse

Biden is the ultimate lap dog for power mad Bammy.... Evil reigns in Washington ..time to stamp it out and take back America

Posted by: JUNGLEJIM123 | March 24, 2010 1:47 AM | Report abuse

and Joe Joe is a big Fu#@%@# idiot !!! He and Obama will be kicked to the cur b....put an end to evil and incompetence...

Posted by: JUNGLEJIM123 | March 24, 2010 1:45 AM | Report abuse

I am amused by the conservative response to this. John McCain has promised to make sure nothing else gets passed, kind of like what what they've been doing since Jan. 2009.

The conservatives hear every word that Obama or anyone around him says and pounce on it, looking for something to ridicule. Bush provided his own dialogue for ridicule, since he seldom seemed to know what he was talking about (ask him to explain "sovereignity") and his vice president says [expletive deleted] all the time. It's probably what he said when he mistook his friend for a quail and shot him in the face.

So please, save the "holier than thou" act, especially if you are disappointed or angry that we have given 30 million people access to health care who currently cannot afford it. Why does the more compassionate choice annoy the "compassionate conservatives"?

It IS a big f#@&ing deal.

Posted by: wizard2 | March 24, 2010 1:40 AM | Report abuse

If a Republican had said that, instead of Biden, the WaPo, et. al. would be clamoring for his resignation.

Posted by: mike85 | March 24, 2010 1:31 AM | Report abuse

The REAL expletive was uttered by Sharpton when he said the American People, voting for Obummer, knew that they were getting, "Socialism".

Posted by: dumpbama | March 24, 2010 1:29 AM | Report abuse

It's unfortunate to catch Biden or any heads of state using foul language but really, who doesn't? It's not like he screamed it on national television, it was whispered not meant for anyone else to hear. I agree with bobbob, the context it was used in was forgivable in my opinion. This is a huge deal!

Posted by: seplin2003 | March 24, 2010 1:15 AM | Report abuse

The DNC should hold major rallys in every major city to commemorate this great victory for the people.

Posted by: Reesh | March 24, 2010 1:14 AM | Report abuse

Before he selected Joe Biden as his vice presidential running mate, it was possible to believe that Barack Obama's native political intelligence made up for his lack of experience.

Posted by: douglaslbarber | March 24, 2010 1:10 AM | Report abuse

It's true, Joe. It is fraking awesome. People are comparing this to when Cheney got busted calling a reporter an axehole and the President agreed with him. The difference is that one is a snarky, mean and nasty thing to say about someone. The other is an expression in a moment of exuberance and happiness.

Isn't that a major difference between the two Administrations.

Posted by: thebobbob | March 24, 2010 1:03 AM | Report abuse

I am totally shocked! This is not the Joe Biden I know. Where would he have learned such foul language?? Wait a sec...wasn't Joe Biden earlier seen and engaged in a conversation with John Boehner?? Of course! Thats where he learned such language. He needs to stay away from people who can not control their language such as republican John Boehner.

Posted by: pt1836metz | March 24, 2010 1:02 AM | Report abuse

So what! This is a big fcuking bill.

Posted by: kenny4 | March 24, 2010 1:00 AM | Report abuse

I love this. This is a classic. Go Bien you fu*ken beauty.

Posted by: NotfromAlaska | March 24, 2010 12:55 AM | Report abuse

Biden is a buffoon and must be a constant source of embarrassment for Obama, but that's what you get when you pick a complete fool for VP. As bad as Obama is, I don't think that Biden would be any better, with his diarrhea of the mouth.

Posted by: catsmeow | March 24, 2010 12:49 AM | Report abuse

Wonderful post by scsever

Humility, grace, empathy... things sometimes absent in comments sections.

This was a victory. People's lives will be saved because they can get care, and our nation can afford this. Thank you.

Posted by: 1a2b3c4d1 | March 24, 2010 12:40 AM | Report abuse

VP spoke the truth
The middle class did indeed get ----ed.
But gosh doesn't this bunch talk like the thugs they are.

Posted by: miriamac2001 | March 24, 2010 12:32 AM | Report abuse

Joe Biden is F--g awesome!

Posted by: twilson66 | March 24, 2010 12:31 AM | Report abuse

It's great to see the bill pass, I believe that the unborn babies and the living should have an opportunity to a healthy life. Some people will be taking advantage of the system; just as we have going on in every income bracket, every religion and political party today. But it will be worth it to know that families won't suffer due to the insurance being canceled or being dropped or even refused insurance.
Sure we will pay for it but who do you think is paying for our insurance? My employer has one of the best insurance plans in the country and our industry, in one way or another, touches everyone in the country so guess what... you already pay for me. We all pay for each other now just as we pay for our politicians benefits, Republican or Democrat. Are any of our politicians that voted against the bill ready to give up their coverage? They're complaining about you having to pay for a health bill but are they willing to have you stop paying for theirs? Not a chance, they just talk tough to keep you voting them in. You don't hear this much complaining when we are spending billions of dollars killing people but mention taking care of people and watch the feathers fly. We have a President that does something to help the sick and poor and people want to impeach him. Sure the country is in debt, we've been going down that path for many years now, funding a war is expensive and will take as many or more years to recover financially as it did to destroy our financial system.
By the way, I'd like to see something followed through with, but I know it won't since it's just BS. All of you that want to quit your jobs and live off the system or drop your insurance to break the insurance companies (although I like that one since I believe they really fear health care reform) go ahead, don't talk out your behind, just do it. I know a lot of recent college grads that would really like the opportunity to have a job, they have been looking for jobs since before 2009 (imagine that, unemployment didn't start in January 2009).
After reading some comments it may appear that I'm rich, no but I do make about 7% above the median income for my state, just lucky with the benefits. But I am rich at heart, just like Christ taught us to be, that is if your are Christian, which is what a lot of Republicans claim to be but I don't think they really understand what the bible tells them. I hope before you bash people trying to help others you take a look at what a Christian is really supposed to be.

Posted by: scsever | March 24, 2010 12:24 AM | Report abuse

grannysunni | March 24, 2010 12:08 AM Wrote: "Biden needs to issue an apology immediately. His behavior was inappropriate, shameful, disgusting, offensive and he disgraced America. There is no sense of decorum, respect or dignity in the White House or administration. Instead it's like a Chicago way never ending frat party."

hah! You must not have heard Dick Cheney telling a certain W. Va. Senator to "Go F* Yourself" on the U.S. Senate Floor? That was offensive - this is just an exuberant guy expressing relief following a huge win.

Posted by: BlueLineRider | March 24, 2010 12:24 AM | Report abuse

Anything to distract: I guess I know what's important.

Thanks for this amazing story of reportorial grit and investigation, Washington Post! A real 'Woodward and Bernstein' moment. Thanks.

Posted by: HartWms | March 24, 2010 12:20 AM | Report abuse

ya know Willy, it doesn't matter to you if continuing on the way we were going is unsustainable. it doesn't matter to you if we end up paying for the uninsured anyway via increased hospital and institutional costs because the poor and uninsured are not turned away from the ER when they show up there. it doesn't matter that it costs *us*, society, more that these uninsured end up unhealthy because they cannot afford access to the medical market and they forego treatment and preventative care.

it costs us all. it's driving up the costs to government and taxpayers unsustainably that it's just ridiculous that you really think that the former status quo was going to save you money. unless you're making a half million you were getting screwed by insurance companies, too, in comparison. and if you are making a quarter or half mil, you want the whole nation to go down the toilet with a byzantine private insurance system with zillions of different plans and rules that cause unsustainable increases in health care costs, just so that you can be spared of the costs of sharing the burden the whole country bears.

Posted by: rb-j | March 24, 2010 12:19 AM | Report abuse

Right on Joe! To you repukes, go listen to some Nixon tapes.

Posted by: andyinbethesda | March 24, 2010 12:18 AM | Report abuse

The racism and vitriol expressed in these comments is absolutely appalling. The lies and distortions are only exceeded by the idiocy of a world view that can be distilled down to "I got mine, f... you brother!" This is like watching the Republican party eat itself from the inside like a sulfurous ulcer. Such people really want others to listen to their ideas about how to run a government? I think we liberals can sit back and wait for the right wing of the Republican party to self-destruct.

Posted by: briefal | March 24, 2010 12:10 AM | Report abuse

Biden needs to issue an apology immediately. His behavior was inappropriate, shameful, disgusting, offensive and he disgraced America. There is no sense of decorum, respect or dignity in the White House or administration. Instead it's like a Chicago way never ending frat party.

Posted by: grannysunni | March 24, 2010 12:08 AM | Report abuse

Another slip of the lip from the Vice Buffoon. No vocabulary to speak of I guess. I certainly hope he will enjoy the big F..king surprise in November!!

Posted by: OregonStorm | March 24, 2010 12:00 AM | Report abuse

Joe Biden Rocks! America loves Joe Biden!

BIDEN FOR PRESIDENT 2016!!

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Joe Biden Rocks! America loves Joe Biden!

BIDEN FOR PREIDENT 2016!!

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Posted by: mmmitkonlyyou | March 23, 2010 11:52 PM | Report abuse

I'm not sure he used the F word. It wasn't very clear in the uncensored recording. It wouldn't make a lot of sense to say that 1) in such a public setting to 2) the guy who already knew it was a bigg deal. Anyway, big f'ing deal!

Posted by: fishcandy | March 23, 2010 11:49 PM | Report abuse

Right on Joe!

Posted by: arbiterveritas | March 23, 2010 11:40 PM | Report abuse

Biden can say that again!

But I can't print it. So expletiving much for freedom of the press.

But back to the issue at hand: after 8 years of big fubar deals it is good to have one that thanks to the expletiving will actually bear fruit for the peoople,

Posted by: glenglish | March 23, 2010 11:38 PM | Report abuse

Yeah...but he left out a word. It's a big Butt F&*^%ng deal. Because that's what's happening to anybody who makes a taxable income in this country...we're getting BOHICAed by a bunch of disconnected idiots who think money grows on trees. If you pay income taxes...you just got screwed. If you pay medicare taxes...you just got screwed. If you think the dollars are going to come from a dwindling bunch of rich guys to pay for this...if you think you're safe because you don't make 250K a year...you just got screwed. You IDIOTS. You could be taking care of your families with your own money, you could be saving for your kids' college educations, you could be going to night school to get that advanced degree...BUT NOOOOOOO...you're going to take that money and flush it down the federal toilet to pay for some losers' methadone prescription or to have some fat cow's stomach stapled because she can't stay away from Sbarro at the mall. YOU IDIOTS...all the tax paying people will soon be joining the non-tax paying, free medical care getting crowd because our jobs are going away because nobody will be able to afford to stay open for business. That is after all the rich people, who are rich because they're smart, move out with their money because...well they're smart...and they have options and they'll just move to some place else and we'll all have great health care until we run out of money completely. Good job socialists...you won the day...we're screwed...thanks alot.

Posted by: PanhandleWilly | March 23, 2010 11:31 PM | Report abuse

Joe Biden is the F'ing man! I scheduled an appt for my son today for a routine exam without taking him on the $795 trip to the emergency room and they took my appt! A change is coming, already!!

Posted by: madstamina | March 23, 2010 11:24 PM | Report abuse

The volume and vitriol of comments here is wonderful....any chance of Biden making an apology? I am not holding my breath.

Posted by: mgrapevine | March 23, 2010 11:20 PM | Report abuse

He wears his heart on his sleeve, big f#*ken deal! Well done sir!
Yeeeeee hooooo. Stay in the dark ages Republican cavemen (and women). This is happiness talking here.

Posted by: NotfromAlaska | March 23, 2010 11:12 PM | Report abuse

Soooooooooooooooo what?

Big f...... deal.

Posted by: owlafaye | March 23, 2010 11:10 PM | Report abuse

Obama is scared every time Biden opens his mouth.

And the WP was upset about some of the language the Tea Party folks supposedly (WP reported, but unlikely) used.

Posted by: johnnyapplewhite123 | March 23, 2010 11:04 PM | Report abuse

Its all about making history for Pelosi/Obama. Its not about American people. Americans Don't want Government Expansion.

Posted by: ohioan | March 23, 2010 11:01 PM | Report abuse

It amuses me that Democrats think that since Republicans (like Cheney) swear, THEY now have permission to swear, too, bless them. I'll be impressed when Democrats also learn the function of a verb as apposed to an adjective. Then maybe they'll be able to tell the difference between "screwing" and "being screwed!"

Posted by: donaldkingsbury | March 23, 2010 11:01 PM | Report abuse

Well, as my mama always said, there are those who can do it and those who can only talk about it.

Posted by: MrM1 | March 23, 2010 11:01 PM | Report abuse

When the s--- hits the fan for the first time with Obamacare, then it will be a BFD indeed. I figure it will take about a week before Biden's profane comment will become the Obama administration's "Mission Accomplished" moment.

Posted by: reval | March 23, 2010 10:58 PM | Report abuse

Biden has been and is an embarasment to himself, his family and all the way up the line to the nation.

He is a bumbling fool but one who serves some powertful people behind the scenes...

Posted by: sally62 | March 23, 2010 10:58 PM | Report abuse

I love all these compassionate conservative comments.

Posted by: djmolter | March 23, 2010 10:56 PM | Report abuse

Republicans are evil people.

Posted by: PulSamsara | March 23, 2010 10:54 PM | Report abuse

He must have learned that word from his predecessor. :o)

Posted by: pcc7407 | March 23, 2010 10:53 PM | Report abuse

Let's have some facts. The congressional budget office calculates that when this bill reaches full implementation, its cost will amount to a mere 4% of the total health care cost in the U.S. That's FOUR PERCENT I don't think four percent qualifies as socialism, I don't think that's a BFD. If you want to save some tax dollars, get out of Iraq and Afghanistan.

Posted by: williamorris | March 23, 2010 10:53 PM | Report abuse

Watch the politically correct teabaggers and Republicans faint at the sound of a curse word.
Wussy crybabies.

Posted by: marko1965 | March 23, 2010 10:51 PM | Report abuse

So many people trying to say, oh so what.

It doesn't work.

Posted by: kls1 | March 23, 2010 10:45 PM | Report abuse

I just think it is funny how the liberal new media and the lunatic liberals on here refuse to acknowledge that this bill directly violates the constitution with its mandate that every citizen purchase healthcare in the private market.

But hey, who cares about that pesky little document anyways, right?

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Posted by: nikejordans1 | March 23, 2010 10:42 PM | Report abuse

I guess that's the strategy -- just have this guy look like such a Barney Fife bumbling numbskull that Obama comes off looking super cool and smart alongside him.

Posted by: kls1

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Remember how the conservatives had to pump up the public for Dumbya. .... no state dept gobbly gook .... he says what he means and means what he says ... which is how we got ..."OB/GYN's all over the country can't practice their love with women all over the country."

That's generally the role of VP. Though Biden has always been bumbling/insert foot in mouth kind of a guy. Cheney couldn't bring himself to act dumber than Dubya [How could he?] So he hid himself in an undisclosed location for 8 years. Coming out for the occasional Sunday talk show to claim Iraq had WMD and assert torture as an American value if you give it a euphemism.

As some anecdotal proof. Consider Jerry Ford. He was an athlete. But for the sake of the Nixon Presidency he had to trip over his own two feet every where he went. I'm sure it was a difficult thing to do for a man so athletic. Then there was Quayle ... How do you spell potato ... real. Do you really think Quayle was THAT stupid?

Posted by: James10 | March 23, 2010 10:42 PM | Report abuse

What? He said freck?! god I hate that gallactica fanboy prick!!

Posted by: nickwiley | March 23, 2010 10:40 PM | Report abuse

Oh, Rats!

Give me a F'ING Break!

Let's talk about Sarah Palin telling her supporters to "Reload" and that map she has posted on her blog site with cross-hairs targeting Democratic Representatives from various states.

Posted by: lcarter0311 | March 23, 2010 10:33 PM | Report abuse

You know, what I don't understand is how, in this screwed up world we live in, the NEWS has time to do something on a word that almost all of us have said, thought of, or (In a certain context) done. It's a word. Just a word. 1. 1 word. This is not something that we should be focusing on at all! What about looking at the bill and seeing how's that's going to effect us? Biden's single word is not going to take money out of my pocket or force me to get health Care. Biden's single word doesn't mean anything at all in the long run, so why the hell is everyone focusing on it so much. Get over yourselves. Really.

Posted by: DeviD | March 23, 2010 10:32 PM | Report abuse

I would just say that its just another act of the three stooges, but there are more than three in this administration.

Posted by: justamaz | March 23, 2010 10:32 PM | Report abuse

This is a gaffe? Dropping the f-word? Maybe not the cleanest word there is, but this was not a curse directed at someone else or an inadvertent critique of the policy.

BFD!

Posted by: RMS70 | March 23, 2010 10:30 PM | Report abuse

It's not the first time Biden stuck his foot in his mouth. I doubt it will be the last. You gotta hate the guy an awful lot not to like him a little though. I like him.

Posted by: abigsam | March 23, 2010 10:25 PM | Report abuse

Contrast

VP Cheney says: FY on the Senate Floor to Sen Leahy

vs.

VP Biden says: It's a BFD.

Posted by: James10 | March 23, 2010 10:24 PM | Report abuse

I guess that's the strategy -- just have this guy look like such a Barney Fife bumbling numbskull that Obama comes off looking super cool and smart alongside him.

Posted by: kls1 | March 23, 2010 10:23 PM | Report abuse

I continue to be amazed at the poor behavior of the Republicans. Don't they have any pride or at least a sense of shame? My one request to all those reading this is to find out which Democrat is running against Randy "Babykiller" Neugebauer and send at least $20 to his or her campaign -- and if you can send more, all the better. Also, does anyone know if they arrested the people who spit on the Democratic Congressmen who marched on Sunday? I don't think you can arrest people for hurling racial epithets, unfortunately, but surely spitting is some kind of misdemeanor, no??

Posted by: gocaps2009 | March 23, 2010 10:20 PM | Report abuse

So? He was right it is a big deal because so many people will get the help they need.The bill is picking up support and speed faster than a locomotive.God bless the uninsured the underinsured those with preexisting conditions,and all those that fought for this bill and God bless America.

Posted by: smorrow | March 23, 2010 10:18 PM | Report abuse

I agree with VP Biden, it was a big %^&*ing deal!!!

C'mon,

Seriously,

How many decades and how many US presidents have come and gone with failed health care reform attempts? What do we have in common here? Obama took an "enough is enough" attitude towards an intolerable yet somehow sustaining for a few years now and otherwise horrible situation in which way less than 1/2 of the population decides that up to about 1/2 of the population gets to have less, and in 1/2 of those situations, not enough to get by.

If I accomplished anything close to what Obama and Biden and their team has accomplished for my nation, I would not feel shy about letting the slang fly in exaltation.

Posted by: readyforchange2 | March 23, 2010 10:11 PM | Report abuse

All you racist Obama haters are nothing but a bunch of insignificant fecal specks desperately clinging to the rectal crack of your inbred, maturbatory, fantasy world of paranoia. Have a nice day.

Posted by: ogyu | March 23, 2010 10:08 PM | Report abuse

When you eavesdrop on a private conversation intended for another, you have no complaint about its content.

On the other hand, this IS a BFD. Republicans pulled every slimy dishonest immoral trick in the book to try to sabotage it and it passed. They will enjoy the reward of this for many elections.

Posted by: skohler | March 23, 2010 10:05 PM | Report abuse

mtpeaks: Bipartisan support? You mean like Social Security and Medicare had bipartisan support? Fact is, the sort of Republicans who voted for Medicare in 1965 no longer exist. Obama's plan is almost the same as the GOP plan in 1993. As soon as Democrats embrace something proposed by the GOP, the GOP abandons it because they aren't there to actually do anything to benefit the United States. They are just there to promote those who line their pockets. Look at the chart that compares this healthcare bill with the GOP proposal from 1993. http://www.kaiserhealthnews.org/Graphics/2010/022310-Bill-comparison.aspx

Posted by: washpost45 | March 23, 2010 10:03 PM | Report abuse

What Republicans want:

No Social Security
No Public Education
No Regulated Banking
No Medicare
No Healthcare
No Regulations for Wall Street
No Regulations for Insurance
No Tax to the Rich who make wealth by plunder of the poor
No Regulation of private business, all free trade

Posted by: republican_disaster | March 23, 2010 9:23 PM |
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
What Democrats want:

To steal from those who have worked hard to succeed.
To reward those who have made stupid decisions.
To destroy all incentives to succeed and take care of oneself.
To make people serfs of the state.

Posted by: GRILLADES | March 23, 2010 10:02 PM | Report abuse

We will see what a (BFD) is in November!

Posted by: markypolo | March 23, 2010 10:00 PM | Report abuse

Showing once again just how low-life and classless this administration really is. Yes, Foul Mouth Joe ... it is a big deal and you better hope that the American people don't figure out just how much it's going to cost them before the next election, because your little pottdy mouth will be heading back to where ever you were hatched.

Posted by: Freethinker4
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And when your Lord Cheney told a US Senator to "go f___ck himself"?

That was OK?

Posted by: coloradodog | March 23, 2010 9:59 PM | Report abuse

If the changes that are promised to take effect in the first year were ALL there were to the bill, I believe it'd be almost good enough! Most would be satisfied.

Why is this arrogant administration pushing the edges of Constitutional definitions? Why are the Democratic people enablers to that thin line that now defines choice from taxation & imprisonment?

Why these extremes? Why? You forced this down an opposing majorities wishes.

I believe a line in the sand has been crossed between "democracy" and "socialism" by trampling state's rights and taxation without representation. This is dividing our country more than the Vietnam war did!

If the new law were limited to the immediate 1st yr. effects, why isn't that good enough?

Posted by: Silvermoon1 | March 23, 2010 9:55 PM | Report abuse

Hey Freethinker4:
If you think profanity is so bad:
http://www.salon.com/news/politics/feature/2000/09/06/media
"Those who fret over nastiness on the networks should take heart at the mostly dainty coverage that followed George W. Bush's calling New York Times scribe Adam Clymer a "major league a--hole" in front of an unexpectedly open mike at a Labor Day rally."

Posted by: washpost45 | March 23, 2010 9:51 PM | Report abuse

Latest poll shows 49% of americans approve of the new law, while 40% of americans disapprove of the new law. So congress definitely did what was right AND they followed the will of the people. Campaigning against healthcare in November will backfire since more people approve than disapprove of it.

Posted by: ChristianT | March 23, 2010 9:51 PM | Report abuse

Joe was right, it is a BFD AND we get to give the 1-fingered salute to all you Republicans who hate this country so much you'll say and do anything to destroy it. It's not your faults though, you're minds are too small to comprehend reality.

Posted by: sdtrueman | March 23, 2010 9:49 PM | Report abuse

Biden had a Freudian slip. What he meant to say is "I cant believe you are the President of the United States you dumb puddle of mud"

Posted by: FREUDIANSLIPPER | March 23, 2010 9:49 PM | Report abuse

Biden acts like a buffoon every time he gets on camera. Why can't he just wave and smile, and keep his mouth closed?

Posted by: dkbickford | March 23, 2010 9:47 PM | Report abuse

Unless you idiots who spread rumors about the healthcare bill have solid proof of what your small minds have conjured up in conspiracy theories, than please don't watse bandwith and shut up.

Posted by: StraightNoChaser | March 23, 2010 9:25 PM | Report abuse


Showing once again just how low-life and classless this administration really is. Yes, Foul Mouth Joe ... it is a big deal and you better hope that the American people don't figure out just how much it's going to cost them before the next election, because your little potty mouth will be heading back to where ever you were hatched.

Posted by: Freethinker4 | March 23, 2010 9:25 PM | Report abuse

What Republicans want:

No Social Security
No Public Education
No Regulated Banking
No Medicare
No Healthcare
No Regulations for Wall Street
No Regulations for Insurance
No Tax to the Rich who make wealth by plunder of the poor
No Regulation of private business, all free trade

Posted by: republican_disaster | March 23, 2010 9:23 PM | Report abuse

!! DIVERSION ALERT !! DIVERSION ALERT !!

Posted by: CTLangis | March 23, 2010 9:20 PM | Report abuse

adm454 and Luke2 TOO: to wit: I'm already working on my list of people to turn in to the FBI for cheating on the new system.

Posted by: muawiyah | March 23, 2010 9:17 PM | Report abuse

!! DIVERSION ALERT !! DIVERSION ALERT !!

Posted by: CTLangis | March 23, 2010 9:17 PM | Report abuse

LINGUISTIC BREAKTHROUGH AT WHITE HOUSE

(WASHINGTON DC) Academic leaders hailed a new linguistic breakthough at the Obama White House.

"It was thought to be impossible--like the4 minute mile--the reduction of all human speech to one word starting with F."

"But by varied context, tonal differences like the Chinese, emphasis, and hand signals, and obscene gestures, Rahm and Biden have now limited all communication to one word," an anonymous expert gushed.

Posted by: ProCounsel | March 23, 2010 9:17 PM | Report abuse

!! DIVERSION ALERT !! DIVERSION ALERT !! DIVERSION ALERT !!

Posted by: CTLangis | March 23, 2010 9:16 PM | Report abuse

Some of these comments reaffirm that hate burns out quickly and love lives forever.

Posted by: cousintim | March 23, 2010 9:16 PM | Report abuse

!! DIVERSION ALERT !! DIVERTION ALERT !! DIVERSION ALERT !!

Posted by: CTLangis | March 23, 2010 9:15 PM | Report abuse

I can't wait till the Republican primaries prior to the November elections, when candidates are falling over each other trying to prove they are frothing at the mouth more than the other guy. And meanwhile, Mr and Mrs. Independent Voter will have noticed the sky hasn't fallen. Principled, rational right, where have you gone?
But don't take my word for it: http://www.frumforum.com/waterloo

Posted by: minorthread | March 23, 2010 9:13 PM | Report abuse

bread and circuses

nothing new under the sun..........

Posted by: ProCounsel | March 23, 2010 9:11 PM | Report abuse

BBear1 ~ Video works and none of what you said happened. At the same time your boy Biden, a man who had brain surgery three times unsuccessfully, drooled out his favorite word.

Step back. Take a good look at yourself. You people are so in the bag for the Chicago mob you are now trying to create street theatre propaganda about the essentially unorganized (just fish in the sea) Tea Party Movement.

I think you fear them because Mao Tse Tung said this was a very effective way to take down a corrupt regime.

And, so it is.

But I didn't study Mao, and there are better ways to do the job ~ and more permanently for that matter.

What you've got to do is give up your faith in Maoism ~ and along with that your faith in the Democrat party. Both have betrayed you.

Posted by: muawiyah | March 23, 2010 9:10 PM | Report abuse

"Ask not what your country can do for you ask what you can do for you country" - JFK

Ask not what you can do for your country ask what it can do for you. - Barack Obama


This is why I am a Conservative. - Former Democrat

Posted by: skipperchuck2003 | March 23, 2010 9:08 PM | Report abuse

Boy, you guys should read what y'all have written. There's lots of mending needed in the US. It's ugly. Why you can't get your heads around healthcare for all is beyond me. There's always lots of money for weapons and military. How about some for wellness and healing? Take a breath, look around and see the rest of the world. The US is the last developed nation to not properly take care of her own. Give it a serious re-think. There's lots to go around. Let's get our priorities straight. The rest will take care of itself. And remember, the US is the first country to rush in to help those in urgent need. Why not do it for ourselves!

Posted by: liketorow | March 23, 2010 8:51 PM | Report abuse

IN THROES OF NEW HEALTHCARE USA PUBLIC BRANDED ILLEGAL FUGITIVE FOR SEEKING MEDS & HEALTHCARE....


ALL USA PUBLIC IS TO BE CONSIDERED A FUGITIVE ON AN INTERNATIONAL LEVEL WHOM WILL BE PROSECUTED & JAILED FOR SEEKING MEDS & HEALTHCARE FOR THEIR FAMILY, VETS, & CHILDREN--IF USA PUBLIC DOESN'T REPEAL THIS BOONDOGGLE HEALTHCARE....


REMEMBER RECENTLY PRIOR TO VOTE WHEN THE MOTHER OF A CHILD WHOM HAD CANCER WAS RUTHLESSLY HUNTED DOWN BECAUSE THE PARENT DIDN'T WANT TO EXPOSE THE CHILD TO CHEMO WHICH WOULD ENDANGER THE CHILDS LIFE??

WELL, FORTUNATELY FOR THE MOTHER & CHILD SOMEONE INTERVENED AND THE CHILD IS RECEIVING HELP WITHOUT CHEMO ENDANGERING THE CHILDS LIFE.

WELL......UNDER NEW HC -----NO ONE WILL INTERVENE FOR YOU THE PUBLIC OR YOUR CHILDREN... IF YOU SEEK MEDS FOR YOU & YOUR FAMILY INSTEAD YOU WILL BE ARRESTED & IMPRISONED. end of story...

WHAAAAT DO YOU CALL IT WHEN people like MR. RUSH LIMBAUGH or anyone of USA PUBLIC Is FORCED TO LEAVE THE COUNTRY TO GET HEALTHCARE & MEDS----DOES ANYONE think they can claim MR. LIMBAUGH OR ANYONE OF USA PUBLIC ARE PROPERLY INSURED OR can anyone claim he is RECEIVING MEDS.....if you DO---then THE DEMS HAVE AN ADDITION TO THE BROOKLY BRIDGE THATS FOR SALE and they'll throw that into the HEALTHCARE PACKAGE TOO if you will be gullible to believe that too...

seek legislative and LEGAL action to get SOC HEALTHCARE & stimulus and bailout kicked out see American center for law and justice OR GOOGLE the problems with socialized health care OR GOOGLE handsoffmyhealth.org OR GOOGLE bigGovhealth.org OR stoptheaclu.com OR Health science institute OR familysecuritymatters.org or Alliance Defense

Posted by: moonstream1 | March 23, 2010 8:49 PM | Report abuse

Gimme an F!

New York Thruway is closed, man ...

Posted by: pressF1 | March 23, 2010 8:48 PM | Report abuse

If "Biden speaks for Everyman", then Everyman is a fool.

Posted by: jhr1 | March 23, 2010 8:47 PM | Report abuse

It will be a big **&&^^& deal in November. Just remember, the policy changes take effect in January, so you won't see them until after the elections. But just remember how they ignored us on this one!!! This admin has as much class as a pile of ^&&^%!! If it isn't Rahm (dead fish) it is Biden constantly sticking his foot in his mouth!! I know you don't have any class but try to act like it just once!!!

Posted by: releggneh1 | March 23, 2010 8:46 PM | Report abuse

I can't believe this piece of crap has not been impeached yet and it was a big deal to turn this country to crap why can't you understand this idiot is a marxist and you will soon see obama is a oiece of crap.

Posted by: samuellenn | March 23, 2010 8:45 PM | Report abuse

Biden speaks for Everyman. Nothing wrong with that.

Posted by: markiejoe | March 23, 2010 8:44 PM | Report abuse

I notice quite a few comments are being made of how people plan to game the new system (they say they will quit working, pay the penalty, retire early, etc.). I say, what else is new? The hardworking Americans are already paying the bills of such freeloaders when these deadbeats a) smoke until they get sick, b) drink until they get sick, c) eat junk food until they get sick, d) drive dangerously until they hurt themselves, and then e) go to the emergency room for free care.

Posted by: Felipe_M | March 23, 2010 8:40 PM | Report abuse

joe biden is an idiot !!! he is an embarassment to the citizens of the us...you would think anyone with his foot in his mouth so often would not be able to speak......read the book"game change"and
you will see how down right ignorant this man is .....I believe he was the token old white guy for the obama campaign !

Posted by: cmt138 | March 23, 2010 8:40 PM | Report abuse

Wow. The bill has been signed, and the war of words goes on.
And the administration is going on the road to 'sell' the new law.
It's an interesting take on democracy: pass the landmark legislation, and then gain the public's support.
Other landmark legislation had bi-partisan support, reflecting a majority voice of American will. This includes civil rights, which a swelling majority of Americans demanded in the early 1960s, but Congress was slow to enact. (And please child, don't dispute me, I was there.)
This one is different. Congress acted first, without broad citizen support.
It's an interesting difference. One that needs close watching.

Posted by: mtpeaks | March 23, 2010 8:39 PM | Report abuse

the "attacks" on Biden from the media pale in comparison to the shredding the Cheney got when he referred to that NYTimes reporter as an A-hole at an open mike at a parade. Typical libs...they only viciously attack the conservatives....they let the lib scum skate regardless of what they do. Where was the lib media when the ACORN scum got busted? Two faced losers.

Posted by: uhuh | March 23, 2010 8:39 PM | Report abuse

I always knew Biden class. What a brilliant man!

Posted by: WyattE | March 23, 2010 8:36 PM | Report abuse

I don't understand why Joe Biden using the f-word is even a story. Don't reporters have anything better to do than write about something as trivial as this? I'm no Joe Biden fan. I always thought of him as a clown. But attack him for something substantive, not because he used the f-word in front of an open mike.

Posted by: Duscany | March 23, 2010 8:33 PM | Report abuse

Ol' Joe just speaking the Street speak. Connecting with his Boss Man, The South Chicago Street Agitator Punk. Joe just wanting to one of the guys.

Posted by: jas7751 | March 23, 2010 8:32 PM | Report abuse

Instead of encouraging people to get on welfare now we are going to force them and make it law, Ugh.
The states will go broke trying and then what

Posted by: wolfy5 | March 23, 2010 8:29 PM | Report abuse

You're damn straight. This is a big effing deal!

Posted by: query0 | March 23, 2010 8:28 PM | Report abuse

Biden used an expletive in front of Our Lord and Savior, Obama. Biden should be punished and bow down to Him and ask Obama to forgive his sins.

Posted by: Dodgers1 | March 23, 2010 8:28 PM | Report abuse

Biden must be the smartest vice-president ever. And he even told Obama not to have Obama's senior staff dissed him....

Posted by: Rockvillers | March 23, 2010 8:18 PM | Report abuse

I was opposed to this bill up until this evening. But I've had a revelation, I've done some math, and I figure the most I'll have to work in four years will be about 20 hours a week. And I'll be self-employed, and I won't pay a nickel for insurance. And thanks to my work ethic (which is going to be history in four years) I've got the savings to cover the "penalty."

Hah, the rest of you libs will be paying for my early retirement.

Thanks, baby-killers! I can really see how this is going to work in my favor.

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You're quite welcome. Glad you've come around.

Posted by: lance_monotone | March 23, 2010 8:14 PM | Report abuse

I was opposed to this bill up until this evening. But I've had a revelation, I've done some math, and I figure the most I'll have to work in four years will be about 20 hours a week. And I'll be self-employed, and I won't pay a nickel for insurance. And thanks to my work ethic (which is going to be history in four years) I've got the savings to cover the "penalty."

Hah, the rest of you libs will be paying for my early retirement.

Thanks, baby-killers! I can really see how this is going to work in my favor.

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You're welcome. But I have to wonder - if a health care bill is all it takes to destroy your work ethic, then I have to wonder how strong it was in the first place.

Posted by: EnemyOfTheState | March 23, 2010 8:10 PM | Report abuse

Effin' great!

I'm not going to pay a nickel for health insurance.

I'll wait until the need arises, then I'll pay the pitiful little "penalty."

The rest of you can cover my premiums until I need care.

Woo-hoo, you really CAN get something for nothing!

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That's OK - there are always those that will game the system. If that's the price we pay for finally joining the 21st century, I'll happily foot the bill.

Posted by: EnemyOfTheState | March 23, 2010 8:05 PM | Report abuse

wolfy5-go ahead i dare you

Posted by: mimo1 | March 23, 2010 8:03 PM | Report abuse

I was opposed to this bill up until this evening. But I've had a revelation, I've done some math, and I figure the most I'll have to work in four years will be about 20 hours a week. And I'll be self-employed, and I won't pay a nickel for insurance. And thanks to my work ethic (which is going to be history in four years) I've got the savings to cover the "penalty."

Hah, the rest of you libs will be paying for my early retirement.

Thanks, baby-killers! I can really see how this is going to work in my favor.

Posted by: NoWayNotNow | March 23, 2010 8:02 PM | Report abuse

Effin' great!

I'm not going to pay a nickel for health insurance.

I'll wait until the need arises, then I'll pay the pitiful little "penalty."

The rest of you can cover my premiums until I need care.

Woo-hoo, you really CAN get something for nothing!

Posted by: NoWayNotNow | March 23, 2010 7:52 PM | Report abuse

an ancient persian king consulted his seer before a great battle

"a great empire will fall" the seer replied

the persian king took that as bad news for his enemy and attacked. and lost.

similarly biden says of obamcare

"This is a big [expletive] deal."

or perhaps he got his expletives transposed and meant

"This (expletive) is a big deal"

obamacare--soon to be americas #1 "expletive"

Posted by: ProCounsel | March 23, 2010 7:49 PM | Report abuse

Yippee, Hooray I think I will quit my Managerial job now and apply for unemployment, get some free health care and some of them there food stamps.
What is this country coming too? I say if you can't beat em then join em.

Posted by: wolfy5 | March 23, 2010 7:48 PM | Report abuse

THERE IS NO FREE LUNCH, ladies and gentlemen! And if you think that our Demagog-in-Chief handed you free health care, think again. Everyone will pay dearly, including those advocating this bill. So Joe is right - this is a BIG F**** deal.....
BTW: Personally I don't understand, what's a big f**** deal about Joe saying "Big F**** deal"? :)

Posted by: valbmet | March 23, 2010 7:44 PM | Report abuse

This story is headed:

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Biden to Obama: "A big [expletive] deal"

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That seems mild enough. But I wonder how Joe semaphored the square brackets.

What's in a word? It's high time the Washington Post, of all purveyors of news and comment, abandoned its hang-ups about some of the most popular words in the world—especially those that are just as popular in elementary school as they are among grown-ups, and especially when they're used grammatically.

One of the reasons I desist from switching Bill Maher's offerings off is that he and his equally brilliant colleagues at HBO have no such hang-ups—as opposed to his lasciviously bleepingly puritanical competitors in television's comic political commentariat.

Posted by: LeighOats | March 23, 2010 7:37 PM | Report abuse

What a way to remember the moment! Can you imagine Sarah Palin saying such a thing. No, because she has class. Biden and Obama are cut from the same sleazy cloth. Remember Obama's minister of 20 years (like an uncle to me, Barak said) saying G.D. America? What do you expect of a president and vice president that pretend to be Christian and both support abortion and the funding of abortion? The leaders of the Democrat party are low life socialists bent on putting the government in control of every one and every thing. Wait until the supporters of this illegal bill have tow wait 42 days to see a doctor. That is what it now takes in Massachusetts, which is the model for the national health care bill. The only people that will benefit from this bill are the free loaders waiting for handouts. That is how Obama, Pelosi, and Reid get their votes. They buy them. I can only pray that the Supreme Court finds the bill unconstitutional and throws the whole thing out. Mean while, we members of the TEA Party movement must work even harder to make our movement grow, expose the truth about the corruption in this administration, show the unemployed that Obama is protecting 8,000,000 illegal aliens working in American jobs, many working in skilled construction jobs when Americans are out of work, and showing that Obama favors the Muslim countries that have Sheria law over our allies. Vote the Democrats out in November and take back our country for Americans.

Posted by: good_angel | March 23, 2010 7:36 PM | Report abuse

I am so Proud to be an American!! What a great Day this is!! Finally, we have a LEADER...GOP run against this bill in November at your own peril!! Yessssss

Posted by: pax_vobiscum2002 | March 23, 2010 7:35 PM | Report abuse

OK here's the deal. The people elected the Congress and the Congress passed this bill. The percentages of yes/no votes parallels recent public polls. This is a democracy, people. The only problem with this country is that we don't pay for the things our representatives put into law. If a majority of Americans, through their representatives, want wars with Iraq and Afghanistan, social security, medicare, and now health care reform, then we have to pay for it. It's unfortunate that many Americans (Republicans and Democrats) don't understand that they may be right, but, if they are in the minority, tough s___. Get over it, and start being a good citizen. Congress should either increase our taxes by 20 percent or roll back defense, social security, and medicare. It's about time the American people started paying for the programs they want. The people and the government are the same entity. If you are in the minority and don't like the laws of the country, that's the price you pay for the luxury of living here. If you want to change it, elect different representatives.

Posted by: wjssparky | March 23, 2010 7:35 PM | Report abuse

Hey Dionne, did you hear the sometime truthful Biden today with his F--king Freudian slip of truth?

Biden was right on two occasions.

"Obama is not ready to lead". Yes Biden, everybody found that out.

He was also right in his Freudian slip. Yes, Americans just got F---ked.

Where are the heath care cost Savings? Huh?

How To Kill the Leftists Euphoria:
Wait until they get the bill and the onerous mandates.
Most of the Onerous mandates occur AFTER the F--kees are out of office and the F--ked get hit with the full sledgehammer and the onerous mandates. Just like a balloon mortgage. When the balloon hits, the mortgager gets hammered.


BTW, Obama/Peloisi Democrats just sent a signal. Don't look for JOBS any time soon. Your sons and daughters will be on your health care bill until they are 26...
I know a lot of parents are looking forward to that.

Yes, Biden was right, this is Big F---king Deal and Americans just got F---ked Big Time.


"If it sounds to good to be true, RUN LIKE HELL".
It's a shame Americans didn't heed this wise advice. Although the majority of Americans were for some kind of health care reform, they were adamantly opposed to this crap. But they made the big mistake on Nov 4, 2008.
The good news comes in NOV when Americans can begin to repair the damage; yes, when the F--ked can F--k the F--kees.

Posted by: mikeglossy | March 23, 2010 7:32 PM | Report abuse

Yes we can and we are! Thank God for the intelligent evolution of his planning. Thank humankind for going forth with such. Thank you Mr. President for such a win and a sincere choice of a grand genuine outspoken, down to earth and intelligent vice president. Joe's whispered comments are ones which will forever be bravely remembered as some of the most endearing words within the pages of history. THANK YOU AND GOD BLESS AMERICA!!!

Posted by: veron2005 | March 23, 2010 7:29 PM | Report abuse

God love ya, Joe Biden.

Posted by: zappafan | March 23, 2010 7:28 PM | Report abuse

NO NO NO - you all misunderstood mr Biden.

He wasn't using the F word as an adjective.

The key word he was emphasizing was BIG.

This is a BIG f-ing deal.

A very BIG f-ing deal.

A f-ing deal is one in which the government f's the country in hopes of gaining more power for themselves.

This Medical Welfare package is nothing but a means to offer free handouts to people for their votes. And a tool to scare voters away from anybody who might take away their free stuff.

See? It's a F-ing deal. F you, F your mother, and F your whole famliy.

In fact it's, as mr. Biden so simply put it, a BIG f-ing deal.

Posted by: gallbladder | March 23, 2010 7:25 PM | Report abuse

I'm not a Democrat. And I'm sure as hell not a liberal. But, well, honestly, I think we can all cut V.P. Biden a little slack on this one!

Posted by: bubba31138 | March 23, 2010 7:25 PM | Report abuse

I don't know who is more stupid; Biden or some of the people who post comments. Let's pray nothing ever happens to Obama or we get Bozo Biden. Talk about a half-wit moron!!

Posted by: saelij | March 23, 2010 7:24 PM | Report abuse

Biden is just talking like a normal person would talk. Because he is to me the definition of a normal person. Those trying to suggest that his language is not appropriate miss the point. And they generally are also two faced. What about the language from the Republican supporters - the tea baggers and their ilk? I mean, that is untoward and offensive. Biden is ....well, ... Biden. He could be my brother or my Uncle or my Dad. At times like this, any one of 'em could talk like that. And they would use the word to underline that this is a BIG deal. It is...

Posted by: paulstewart | March 23, 2010 7:23 PM | Report abuse

Yes we can and we are! Thank God for the intelligent evolution of his planning. Thank humankind for going forth with such. Thank you Mr. President for such a win and a sincere choice of a grand genuine outspoken, down to earth and intelligent vice president. Joe's whispered comments are ones which will forever be bravely remembered as some of the most endearing words within the pages of history. THANK YOU AND GOD BLESS AMERICA!!!

Posted by: veron2005 | March 23, 2010 7:21 PM | Report abuse

Biden was right on two occasions.

"Obama is not ready to lead". Yes Biden, everybody found that out.

He was also right in his Freudian slip. Yes, Americans just got F---ked.

Where are the heath care cost Savings? Huh?

How To Kill the Leftists Euphoria:
Wait until they get the bill and the onerous mandates.
Most of the Onerous mandates occur AFTER the F--kees are out of office and the F--ked get hit with the full sledgehammer and the onerous mandates. Just like a balloon mortgage. When the balloon hits, the mortgager gets hammered.


BTW, Obama/Peloisi Democrats just sent a signal. Don't look for JOBS any time soon. Your sons and daughters will be on your health care bill until they are 26...
I know a lot of parents are looking forward to that.

Yes, Biden was right, this is F---king Big and Americans just got F---ked Big Time.


"If it sounds to good to be true, RUN LIKE HELL".
It's a shame Americans didn't heed this wise advice. Although the majority of Americans were for some kind of health care reform, they were adamantly opposed to this crap. But they made the big mistake on Nov 4, 2008.
The good news comes in NOV when Americans can begin to repair the damage.

Posted by: mikeglossy | March 23, 2010 7:20 PM | Report abuse

This story is so em-effin' important, it effin' trumps all the other g**d*mn news on the frickin' SOB of CSMF front page... BFD? MF, Biden is effin' right! Fo' shizzle ma nizzle!


Posted by: jade_7243 | March 23, 2010 7:16 PM | Report abuse

Perhaps everyone ought to clean up their language. But this is truly a big deal. Today President Obama, Vice President Biden, Speaker Pelosi, Majority Leader Reid and our Congress made history. This is an exciting day. I am relieved to know that my friends, neighbors and family will have health care no matter what befalls them. No more fund raisers to pay medical bills.

What were the Repubs thinking when they went AWOL on the biggest piece legislation since Medicare?

Posted by: MNUSA | March 23, 2010 7:13 PM | Report abuse

Considering the fact that obama and Pelosi F- the nation and F- the economy with this socialist Health Plan, Biden's comments were quite fitting.

Posted by: Realist20 | March 23, 2010 7:12 PM | Report abuse

So what? You have worse language and actions from all of the holy roller Republicans at the C Street cult house. And it was a big ____ deal! It means that the Republican Party children and their psycho attack dogs failed to fool or frighten the American people. Now they're really going to spit and yell bigoted slurs!

Posted by: revbookburn | March 23, 2010 7:08 PM | Report abuse

aw, BFD, if you don't like it, in the words of dick cheney..."go f*@K yourself..." LOL

Posted by: mimo1 | March 23, 2010 7:05 PM | Report abuse

F Biden
F Obutthead
F the dem's

I just changed my voter reg to republican

I voted for the idiot and helped move on get the
F elected. I admit my mistake

Posted by: td11232 | March 23, 2010 7:03 PM | Report abuse

It truly is a big f... deal. I like when Republicans are defeated! Don't they remember when they screw up the country with the Iraq war? Republicans = Ignorant sheep. Ha, ha, ha.

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Bless your heart. This was a battle between Dems Dumb Butt. Why would you have to battle your own party if this was such a great bill. Repubs were a non-entity. The were out manned by 30 votes.

I'm not a Repub. Ex-Dem as of June 2008. Just couldn't take the vile and venom of the Brownie Obamanuts toward Hillary.

Posted by: bnw173 | March 23, 2010 7:02 PM | Report abuse

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Posted by: A-Voter | March 23, 2010 6:56 PM | Report abuse

F Socialist in Chief Obama
F Hair plugs Biden
F San Fran Nan
F Dirty Harry
F all Democrat Senators and Congressmen
F all liberals
F this Fing plan

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Fk YEa!!!! YES WE DID !!!!!

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I sincerely hope you are as happy two or three years from now.

Posted by: bnw173 | March 23, 2010 6:52 PM | Report abuse

Silver tongue Joe is right, it is a big f bomb deal.
Most Americans are going to be the ones getting the wrong end of the deal.
Needs to enjoy their victory while they can, won't be so happy in November. That will be a big F-bomb deal and set the stage for a lame duck administration for two years and then a new group will occupy the White House.

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Posted by: A-Voter | March 23, 2010 6:49 PM | Report abuse

Vice President Biden was just keeping it real! YES WE DID!

Posted by: bobby20 | March 23, 2010 6:48 PM | Report abuse

It seems the only people "woo-hoo-ing" are the folks who believe they are actually getting something for nothing. The majority of American Citizens who realize our taxes and insurance premium costs will SOAR, and our quality of healthcare is threatened, are...CONCERNED!

Posted by: wcmillionairre | March 23, 2010 6:47 PM | Report abuse

I like Biden. His inability to think before speaking is endearing. He also seems more genuine than Obama.
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Hell, anyone sounds more genuine than the "reader". Two choices "reader" or er, ah, uh, um, oh.

Posted by: bnw173 | March 23, 2010 6:45 PM | Report abuse

Smoke a cig...before the 16000 SS Troopers test your blood and issue a small fee...except for Congress...no law they pass applies to them...or maybe you didn't know that. How Stupid we are. Can't wait for Obama to explain what Biden meant...like everytime Biden opens his mouth.

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Posted by: A-Voter | March 23, 2010 6:44 PM | Report abuse

NoWayNotNow squeaked:
"Democrats: The party of racist, baby-killing, entitlement-seeking losers.

Your new "healthcare" will receive a resounding Constitutional spanking, and Obama will go into history as the most ineffective president in history. And then we have November to look forward to--bye, bye, libs!"


You're going to lose dramatically in November. Just like '06 and '08.
Perhaps accepting that you're at the very bottom of the political food chain would give you some peace.

The American people want reform. Get used to it.

Posted by: captainkona | March 23, 2010 6:43 PM | Report abuse


"Lighten up. Seems like the only thing that makes republicans happy these days is a man's nuts in their mouth."

So Barney Frank is now a REPUBLICAN? I am confused (heh-heh-heh)!

Posted by: wcmillionairre | March 23, 2010 6:43 PM | Report abuse

The President today made all who voted for him proud.

Nancy Pelosi has had a greater impact than any House Speaker since Sam Rayburn. Perhaps the Congressional leader she most resembles in historical impact is former Senate Majority Leader Lyndon Johnson. Perhaps this is why conservatives seem to despise her so---because she is effective at getting progressive legislation passed.

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Posted by: A-Voter | March 23, 2010 6:42 PM | Report abuse

The "BFD" will come when all major insurers across-the-board, LEGALLY raise their rates to unaffordable amounts, simply to cover the shortfalls this poorly-crafted legislation will force on them. Already we have seen increases of 35% and more; my, oh my, what will poor Mr. Obama do with the lid of Pandora's box stuck open? I suppose he will have to shove his big head in the box to try to save "his" presidency...

Posted by: wcmillionairre | March 23, 2010 6:41 PM | Report abuse

No robber baron could have put it better.

Posted by: RossOdom | March 23, 2010 6:40 PM | Report abuse

Cheney and Biden both used the word. But when Cheney said it, it was a nasty attack on a respected Senator. When Biden said it, it was in warm congratulations.

That pretty much sums up the two men and the two parties.

Go Joe!!!

Posted by: kurthunt | March 23, 2010 6:38 PM | Report abuse

It IS a "BFD" only, sadly for the Democrats, the worst of their nightmares yet to come...

Posted by: wcmillionairre | March 23, 2010 6:37 PM | Report abuse

After waiting since Teddy Roosevelt, overcoming hell no with yes we can, it is a BFD. Not perfect, plenty of room for improvement, especially raising medicare taxes not to pass it's cost to our children. My own belief is had the GOP Senate said give us tort reform, HSAs, no anti-trust, and we will say yes, those good ideas would have been in the bill.

Posted by: jameschirico | March 23, 2010 6:37 PM | Report abuse

It truly is a big f... deal. I like when Republicans are defeated! Don't they remember when they screw up the country with the Iraq war? Republicans = Ignorant sheep. Ha, ha, ha.

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Posted by: A-Voter | March 23, 2010 6:35 PM | Report abuse

"Republicans bitterly denounced the legislation Tuesday, and more than a dozen GOP state attorneys general promptly filed lawsuits challenging it as unconstitutional."

Declaratory and injunctive relief is appropriate and is available for Plaintiffs, as a tool of the Court to protect Plaintiffs from future abridgment of their rights.

Plaintiffs show a "real" or "immediate" threat to their rights being further abridged and that a substantial and immediate irreparable injury exists, See City of Los Angeles v. Lyons, 461 U.S. 95, 111 (1983) (quoting O'Shea v. Littleton, 414 U.S. 488, 502 (1974) that Plaintiffs' suit is not premature.

Posted by: kwoods2 | March 23, 2010 6:29 PM | Report abuse

re: Newfreedom1 post about the Veterans Administration.

You may have visited a VA facility, but I am a veteran who has been using the VA Medical Center in West Palm Beach, Florida for the past 6 years or so. I say the following with NO qualification:

I HAVE NEVER HAD BETTER MEDICAL CARE IN MY LIFE THAN THAT WHICH I GET FROM THE VA AT THAT FACILITY.

In October, 2008 I was admitted to the hospital in a severe state of atrial fibrillation (heart problem)at the same time as I was severely short of breath. I spent 15 days in the hospital and was tended to by a cardiologist, pulmonologist, numerous primary care doctors, nurses, technicians, etc., etc. EVERYONE in the facility treated me with the utmost care and concern I had ever experienced.

The followup care has been as good. In fact, just yesterday I had 3 appointments for a chest xray, blood work and a coumadin check for one of my medications which needs to be monitored closely. I was also supposed to see my primary care doctor, but was called at 8 in the morning to let me know that he was out sick himself and they rescheduled me.

At 3:30 this afternoon, my primary doctor called me (himself, not an assistant) to let me know that he had gotten my lab work back and that I needed to make an adjustment in one of my meds. He also told me that a couple of the tests showed some improvement and that he looked forward to seeing me soon and that he ordered a new prescription for the changed medicine.

It should be noted that I have NO outside insurance, nor am I able to work, so my income is quite limited. There has never been a word said to me about costs of medical care. They take care of me with no questions asked.

For years, I paid Blue Cross/Blue Shield of New York about $800 a month and never saw a doctor in over ten years. When I did ask a primary doc to look at a growth on my neck, he said "That's just a fat deposit and we won't cover it because we consider it cosmetic surgery." I went to the VA, where it was diagnosed as a tumor and they did a biopsy and, although negative for malignancy, they operated to remove it.

So don't tell me about care from the VA based on a visit you made to a VA facility. If the rest of this country had a single payer system like the VA, we would all be so much better off.

You have no idea what you're talking about.

Posted by: kmitnick | March 23, 2010 6:29 PM | Report abuse

Lighten up. Seems like the only thing that makes republicans happy these days is a man's nuts in their mouth.

Posted by: mack1 | March 23, 2010 6:29 PM | Report abuse

Looks like the dirty racist republicans are working overtime....

Posted by: blarsen1 | March 23, 2010 6:29 PM | Report abuse

Why would anyone care what a politician says? I haven't heard anyone complain about the gutter language that is used on TV and in the movies every day. I think it's kind of a double standard.

Posted by: OldCoot1 | March 23, 2010 6:28 PM | Report abuse

Democrats: The party of racist, baby-killing, entitlement-seeking losers.

Your new "healthcare" will receive a resounding Constitutional spanking, and Obama will go into history as the most ineffective president in history. And then we have November to look forward to--bye, bye, libs!

Posted by: NoWayNotNow | March 23, 2010 6:25 PM | Report abuse

Biden said it on purpose to upstage Obama. A White man can't let a Black man get all of the attention. Except what Biden doesn't know is O is half-white too...so shut up.

Posted by: doggit1 | March 23, 2010 6:23 PM | Report abuse

"You libs would defend Biden if he sodomized Obama on national TV while calling him a dirty ni@@er boy."

And the republicans wonder why the democrats keep calling them racists....

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Posted by: blarsen1 | March 23, 2010 6:20 PM | Report abuse

You libs would defend Biden if he sodomized Obama on national TV while calling him a dirty ni@@er boy.

Posted by: NoWayNotNow | March 23, 2010 6:16 PM | Report abuse

Republicans are such a bunch of prima-donna hypocrites, these are the same people who cheered Dick war criminal Cheney when he told a Senator to fhimself on the floor of the Senate.

Posted by: jeffc6578 | March 23, 2010 6:15 PM | Report abuse

we'll see in a year or two..when the democrats are in prison camps and nailed to crosses on the road into DC....LOL

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Teabaggers live in a fantasy world filled with hate, solitude, revenge and a rejection of facts that don't support their preconceptions. For all their bleating about freedom and the Constitution the truth is this is not about freedom or the Constitution for them at all. They are a small minority of zealots striving desperately to disrupt anything the President and the Democrats try to do and they are willing to do and say anything to achieve that end.

What's disgusting is that there are politicians and media personalities willing to whip this group into a frenzy using misinformation and flat out lies. Sad.

Posted by: Observer001 | March 23, 2010 6:12 PM | Report abuse

Judging by the whining and crying from the Tea Baggers, Biden is spot on.

Happy F*cking day.
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Posted by: captainkona | March 23, 2010 6:11 PM | Report abuse

To all Conservatives, Republicans, Independents and Tea Party Members.

This is easily defeated in unity.

It is time to throw the tea (Health Care Insurance Policies with Insurance companies) overboard.

The Tea is the insurance companies' policies, not the Senate Bill (HR 3590).

The Senate Bill is a mandate to buy the tea (H.C. Insurance Polices) against our individual rights, but the
tea is the insurance policies.

It is time for all healthy conservatives and Tea Party members to throw out their insurance polices.

If we have a large portion of American public, that are healthy at the moment,
throwing out their insurance policies, in other words boycotting the insurance companies, then it will bring the insurance companies to their knees.

Conservatives and Tea Baggers with health conditions should stay on their polices to
help choke the system.

With the Healthy buyers throwing out their plans, and the unhealthy buyers keeping their plans, the Insurance companies will starve, as they need the money from healthy customers to pay for the unhealthy customer policies.

Also, since we know that the liberal buyers will continue to use their polices it will cause a great drain on the system.

The Insurance Companies will have no choice but to deal with the consumers and petition the government to listen to the consumers.

The (HR 3590) mandate does not go into effect until 2013 so we have some time to choke the awful grip of Senate Bill (HR 3590) mandate(the teeth of the bill) before it goes into effect.

All state governments should sue the Federal government for this unconstitutional mandate,
as well, we need the courts involved quickly.

Throw the tea overboard, petition the courts, thus peaceful resistance.

Posted by: kwoods2 | March 23, 2010 6:11 PM | Report abuse

Cheney is a war criminal and right wingnuts worry about Joe Biden'e enthusiasm after winning health care for 32 million uninsured people.

Posted by: Luke2 | March 23, 2010 6:00 PM | Report abuse

Hey Luke. Biden might've won healthcare for 32 million people, but you're going to pay for it. Maybe a lot more than YOU can afford.

Posted by: adm454 | March 23, 2010 6:08 PM | Report abuse

Unlike Cheney and Bush who were caught on open mike wishing harm to other people with the eff word, Biden is expressing the honest truth, the passage of this Bill what HE SAID!

Posted by: caramello51 | March 23, 2010 6:08 PM | Report abuse

Don't be a hater.

Posted by: JoeMc | March 23, 2010 6:06 PM | Report abuse

It truly is a big f... deal. I like when Republicans are defeated! Don't they remember when they screw up the country with the Iraq war? Republicans = Ignorant sheep. Ha, ha, ha.

Posted by: tukuyrikuy | March 23, 2010 6:04 PM | Report abuse

Joe Biden is a good man and a smart man, but he should know about open mikes. I think he got caught up in the emotion of the moment.

Posted by: bschratwieser | March 23, 2010 6:02 PM | Report abuse

Where were the kooks on the right when Dick Cheney told a United States Senator to go F..k himself because the Senator had stated that Cheney hekped his former Halliburton employers make obscene war profits by approving no bid contracts? Cheney is a war criminal and right wingnuts worry about Joe Biden'e enthusiasm after winning health care for 32 million uninsured people.

Posted by: Luke2 | March 23, 2010 6:00 PM | Report abuse

"Be honest, with us.."

I can be honest. Neither time was more than an honest expression of feeling. While not polite, they are not words to disgrace one. These are crude times and one may act accordingly.

Posted by: gary4books | March 23, 2010 5:58 PM | Report abuse

How apropos! Mr. Biden, thanks to you, your boss, and your party, we-the-people are all screwed. The "big...deal" I see is that you folks could care less about what us Americans want. It is blatent that you "representatives", or "public servants" are self-servers and power grabbers. I can't wait to join my fellow Americans at the polls in the upcoming election cycles. Voting will be a pleasure. Adios, MORONS.

Posted by: luzandrob | March 23, 2010 5:58 PM | Report abuse

Hey Joe, why don't you shove that 2,000 page bill up where the sun doesn't shine, you lummox? F-you too, loser.

Posted by: nmg3rln | March 23, 2010 5:58 PM | Report abuse

What a HUGE disgrace this administration is .

Posted by: yourmomscalling | March 23, 2010 5:57 PM | Report abuse

Well said.

It is a big deal. This will divide the sheep from the goats.

But those who bet against the USA will lose.

Posted by: gary4books | March 23, 2010 5:51 PM | Report abuse

What's the big f***ing deal?

Seriously, Joe Biden's growing on me...he's kinda like a puppy...full of enthusiasm, not a mean bone, but he's always making a mess.

Posted by: gbooksdc | March 23, 2010 5:51 PM | Report abuse

If they had the balls to pass the public option it would indeed be a big f---ing deal but this bill is bull squat.

Posted by: Woodstocknative | March 23, 2010 5:50 PM | Report abuse

What an embarrassment.

Posted by: NoWayNotNow | March 23, 2010 5:48 PM | Report abuse

Well said.

It is a big deal. This will divide the sheep from the goats.

But those who bet against the USA will lose.

Posted by: gary4books | March 23, 2010 5:48 PM | Report abuse

This is what you call: Enabling

Enabling, this is extremely common around presumed great people, that have a service personality disorder.

Look out world, were feeding Obama's ego:
I was and enabler for over 40 years:

Please look up Narcissistic Personalty Disorder + Obama

Posted by: rdurig | March 23, 2010 5:47 PM | Report abuse

According to Levi Johnson, the father of Sarah Palin's daughter's illegitimate baby, Mrs. Palin uses this word frequently in front of any and all. Must be OK. What's good for the goose is good for the gander. And it is a BIG F...king deal. Say it's so, Joe. Now the Republicans can go crying to their big insurance owners for some money to spread more lies.

Posted by: Luke2 | March 23, 2010 5:47 PM | Report abuse

I like Biden. His inability to think before speaking is endearing. He also seems more genuine than Obama.

Posted by: BradG | March 23, 2010 5:46 PM | Report abuse

THIS IS [EXPLETIVE] GREAT!!!!!

WAY TO TELL IT LIKE IT IS, JOE. UPFRONT AND IN THEIR FACE!

Gotta admit, you sorry looking Republicans, it a lot nicer than the things Tiger texted to his troll, which are more in line with what I'd like to convey to you.

Posted by: joachim1 | March 23, 2010 5:44 PM | Report abuse

Biden tried feeding Obama's narcissim, but looks like it didn't work.

Posted by: 4to125characters | March 23, 2010 5:40 PM | Report abuse

Cursing, finally a breathe of fresh air compared to the teabaggers. The teabaggers, belittling a man with Parkinson's, but no surprise, their slogan is: "give me your poor, disabled, crippled and blind and we can and will, belittle, abuse, torment and, lastly, curse at them", GO TEABAGGERS.

Posted by: MikeQ2 | March 23, 2010 5:40 PM | Report abuse

Presidents (except for Bush Jr.) have always kept their Vice Presidents in dark corners so much that the public nearly forgets there is such an office.

I admire Obama for having Joe Biden most always near and dear. He shows respect for the old guys experience and Washington know-how and Obama does not fear being 'upstaged'. And I admire Biden for being as human as most of us.

A good, no---a great team!

Posted by: mosthind | March 23, 2010 5:40 PM | Report abuse

If Cheney, it is OK, but for Biden, it's an abomination??? The message I take home is - only Republicans ar "rightful" leaders. Democrats are disqualifiedout of hand. How is that a democratic view. RANK HYPOCRISY

Posted by: chuck2 | March 23, 2010 5:37 PM | Report abuse

LNER4472 wrote:
"Would all the "apologists" for Biden please tell us:
What would you have said had Cheney said those words at some similar "big deal" to Bush 43?
Be honest, with us and yourselves. You would have hurled invectives and condemnations aplenty upon him."

As I mentioned in my last post, Cheney told Senator Lahey to "go f*** yourself" on the floor of the Senate.
I suppose you were apologetic then, to match your being apoplectic now...no?

Posted by: anetgroup | March 23, 2010 5:37 PM | Report abuse

Totally classless as one would expect from this crowd.

Posted by: PittAlum | March 23, 2010 5:37 PM | Report abuse

I say embrace the monicker.
Teddy Roosevelt had the Square Deal. Franklin Roosevelt had the New Deal.
And Barack Obama has the Big F-ing Deal.
I can't wait to read the history books!

Posted by: ogyu | March 23, 2010 5:37 PM | Report abuse

I said the same thing, myself. This is a big f---ing deal!!

What's the big deal over it? He wasn't in Congress when he said it. He was excited and so am I.

Posted by: nana4 | March 23, 2010 5:37 PM | Report abuse

what a remarkable story! Grown man swearing in public, time to indulge in some hypocritical oversensitivity. I personally heard "this is a very special deal", but I guess one hears what one wants to hear.

Posted by: bartleby9 | March 23, 2010 5:34 PM | Report abuse

hey apdseal,
From your outrage, I imagine you still sting from when Cheney told Senator Lahey to "go
f*** himself" on the floor of the senate.

Guess you can't vote for Republicans, either.

And by the way, at least Biden was right.

Posted by: anetgroup | March 23, 2010 5:32 PM | Report abuse

I really think some feel the F-word was being used as an adjective, but as a pragmatist it really is a verb. I just want to take the time to thank all of the pseudo-representatives who voted for something they will never partake of because it is beneath them to do so. It bothers me to see economic potential to do good used to shine a politician's shoes. Taxpayers are going to suffer for our "representatives" taking our money to buy us something they would not touch. No, it was used as a verb. Continue to lie to yourselves it is amusingly pathetic.

Posted by: halbstarke | March 23, 2010 5:30 PM | Report abuse

Oh my my! Never heard that word before! So, Biden sometimes lacks decorum, and still, It is a Big Effin' deal.
"Oops" on Mr. VP for his excitement over history being made. I like him all the more for his humanness!

Posted by: lightkeeper1 | March 23, 2010 5:30 PM | Report abuse

Yes, Biden's a jerk. Then, too, Gibbs' remark proved he's nothing more than a lackey, better yet, a lap dog.

We need to send better messages to the people of this country than the F-bomb and approval of it by another authority - Biden, Gibbs and, yes, even Obama, since he did not shut Biden down have slipped down another rung on the "classy" ladder - they have fallen off.

We need a change, a refreshing change in 2010 and 2012 by getting the democrats and Obama voted out of office.

Posted by: apdseal | March 23, 2010 5:28 PM | Report abuse

And in case you didn't realize it, Rachel, it IS a "big [expletive] deal!

Posted by: imgeorg | March 23, 2010 5:27 PM | Report abuse

Republicans are boo-hooing. "waaaa, Biden cussed"! Why is this news? When are so-called journalists and Republicans in general ever going to grow up?!

Posted by: imgeorg | March 23, 2010 5:26 PM | Report abuse

What's the point of bleeping it on a web site? Does the FCC now control what words can be said here too?

Posted by: blasmaic | March 23, 2010 5:25 PM | Report abuse

Leave it to Joltin Joe Biden to upstage Obama by dropping an "F" bomb...ha ha ha what a tool...

Posted by: Phil6 | March 23, 2010 5:22 PM | Report abuse

It'll be a big expletive deal when the idiot Biden presides over a Republican Senate come January.

Posted by: thebump | March 23, 2010 5:18 PM | Report abuse

Obama picked Biden on purpose..a dumb white guy that can't speak intelligently..about anything...except to announce when it is time for a drink. CHEERS and Congrats to the Demorats.

Posted by: doggit1 | March 23, 2010 5:14 PM | Report abuse


Don't you know, I really don't think Biden's indiscretion is too much of a big ******* deal.

However, with every opportunity he takes to open his mouth, I really wonder if he is any smarter/savvy than Palin would have been in the same role.

Don't get me wrong, I am hardly a Palin fan. I really don't care for her at all; but Biden with all of his supposed "experience" touted when he was picked for the ticket, doesn't come across as a whole lot better. He seems to be more the court jester than someone that is a "hearbeat" away from the presidency.

Actually, you could, I suppose, write off Palin's gaffs to inexperience on the national stage, but you can't afford the same excuse for foot-in-the-mouth VP Biden.
I pray for Obama's long and healthy life, for a Biden assumption of the Presidency would be more than scary.

Posted by: LAWPOOL | March 23, 2010 5:10 PM | Report abuse

Grown man swears! Details at 11.

What about Bush's famous "world class a**hole" aside to Cheney some years ago?

I'll take a guy who swears and doesn't think god told him to invade Iraq over ... well, you know ... any day.

Posted by: djmolter | March 23, 2010 5:08 PM | Report abuse

Now we are free to chip in $ on the 14 million AfroAmerican Abortions. No they aren't rape babies just lots of T.Woods running around on their fams, without condoms.

Posted by: doggit1 | March 23, 2010 5:04 PM | Report abuse

I'm not surprised. Between Obama acting like a Chicago political thug talking down to the US Supreme Court during the State of the Union Address, to now this, all of this just proves that the Democrats have no class.

Posted by: liberalsareblind | March 23, 2010 5:03 PM | Report abuse

"A BID Fu**ed UP DEAL!" To be sure! Now lets helplessly watch them totally kill our economy with their "Cap and Tax" laws to punish us according to ALmighty Gore!

Posted by: AverageAmerican1 | March 23, 2010 5:02 PM | Report abuse

Would all the "apologists" for Biden please tell us:

What would you have said had Cheney said those words at some similar "big deal" to Bush 43?

Be honest, with us and yourselves. You would have hurled invectives and condemnations aplenty upon him.

Posted by: LNER4472 | March 23, 2010 5:00 PM | Report abuse

What the [expletive] does it matter? In the first place, as several readers have noted, most adults use salty language on a regular basis, Dick Cheney included. As for all the rest of the comments, here is the truth: people are generally divided into three groups on this legislation: first, those who will NEVER support any kind of help for health care except tax credits and tort reform, and who believe that uninsured sick people can get adequate help through emergency rooms and bankruptcy, and if you fall between the cracks, so what unless it's me. Second is the group of people who are skeptical, but who mostly don't know what's in the bill and just hate the process. Third are those of us who believe that private insurers should not be allowed to profit from health care and want a single payer system, like ALL THE REST OF THE WORLD. So give it a rest, already.

Posted by: terryhill46 | March 23, 2010 4:55 PM | Report abuse

To you people who think Medicare is free to Seniors, think again. I have almost $100.00 a month taken from my Check and besides that I pay %52.00 a month for Part D.

I am just waiting on the death list to start for us Seniors. Just remember some day you people will be Seniors too.

Posted by: Newshead | March 23, 2010 4:55 PM | Report abuse

It IS a big f****** deal!

Congratulations again Obama, Pelosi, The House, and America!

Posted by: binkynh | March 23, 2010 4:54 PM | Report abuse

The man has no class. In fact the idiot president has no class if he thinks America wants his stupid health care "plan". Socialist pigs.

Posted by: jerseyd1gmailcom | March 23, 2010 4:51 PM | Report abuse

To me this whole Health Care Reform is all about getting more for the poor or for those who could care less if they have health care of not. Why should I have to pay for them. They have what they want now a Prez., who is going to give, give, give until the USA is broke broke broke. Oh, pardon me, the USA is broke--they just haven't informed the people yet.

Posted by: Newshead | March 23, 2010 4:51 PM | Report abuse

NewFreedom1: And the gov't also provides insurance for millions and millions of senior citizens. Guess what, the LOVE IT

Posted by: maurban | March 23, 2010 4:50 PM | Report abuse

doggit1: The gov't already forces you to pay for a thousand things, what is this freedom you are talking about?

Posted by: maurban | March 23, 2010 4:48 PM | Report abuse

Newshead: And that scenario is worse than being unable to get insurance at all if you have pre existing condition? I don't follow your reasoning

Posted by: maurban | March 23, 2010 4:47 PM | Report abuse

The Big Deal is that Congress can FORCE us to buy! THEY CAN and THEY WILL!
The Status-Quo, having FREEDOM is OVER. Muhamaad Bless America.

Posted by: doggit1 | March 23, 2010 4:45 PM | Report abuse

Well, the Prez. won for now it seems. What are all the people going to be saying when the time comes for pre-existing conditions to no longer exist? Of course, thanks to the Prez and our lapdog Senators and Representatives, when you do seek health coverage and you have pre-existing conditions--guess what???? you are going to pay through the nose to get that no pre-existing conditions premium price. You think insurance premiums are high now--wait until someone with a pre-existing condition gets their insurance premium for not having to be rejected due to the pre-existing condition. It will be out of sight.

Posted by: Newshead | March 23, 2010 4:45 PM | Report abuse

Well, I still have one big problem with this: I do believe it is UNCONSTITUTIONAL for Congress to require that a citizen PURCHASE anything. Many people raise the example of states requiring auto insurance; but that is not relevant=Driving is a PRIVILIDGE, not a RIGHT, and therefore may be regulated. It's also OPTIONAL. Here, they are bascially trying to regulate (and if you don't comply tax), you for merely existing. I don't think they can do that. If this were not part of the bill, I could probably support the rest of it; i.e. if health insurance was not available through my employer at a reasonable cost i could OPT to purchase the subsidized insurance. Siccing the IRS on me for exercising my INALIENALBE RIGHTS, is wrong.

Posted by: brucewla | March 23, 2010 4:45 PM | Report abuse

Should Biden have sweared? No, of course not. Really though, I think it is hilarious that Republicans are trying to make this a big deal, but had no problem when Cheney did it. Also funny - here on a public forum, multiple Republicans have used the $ symbol to replace the letter s so that they could swear as they criticize the VP for, oh yeah, swearing. Another well-argued point, my Republican friends!

Posted by: Jeremy1976 | March 23, 2010 4:45 PM | Report abuse

To JWx2, what the H is wrong with you? Your type of person makes me sick. Do you really want a evil thing like that to happen? To anyone? What is WRONG with people today, I may disagree with someone, but gleefully hoping for something like that is WRONG and completely evil. I wonder if you're a Christian, I'm hearing a lot of this vitriol from "good Christians". Hate has no place in public debate or discourse. Shut it or come up with some civil reasons to disagree. I'm sure if you actually think, you can find a salient point and not just a nightmare of horrific imagery about punishing people not doing exactly what you want. Hopefully it will never come to that in this country as it has in so many others. You and all your ilk on both sides disgust me. Grow up, America, no one does their side any good by being a creep.

Posted by: monkeynavigated | March 23, 2010 4:42 PM | Report abuse

biden is right it is a big f*****g deal biden was my choice for president i'm happy that obama ask him to be his vice.

Posted by: donaldtucker | March 23, 2010 4:41 PM | Report abuse

You need some Big $^%&ing ears to hear Joe Biden say "Big $^%&ing deal."

Posted by: sasquatchbigfoot | March 23, 2010 4:41 PM | Report abuse

If you would like to see an example of Federal Health Care,
look no further than your local V.A. hospital, or talk to an injured Veteran. I visited the V.A. hospital in Westwood, CA., and have
never seen such shocking and deplorable conditions.

The U.S. Government has provided Health care for Native American Indians since 1787, and currently provides Government Health Care to 2 million Native Americans. You can read about the shocking and shameless treatment to these Americans in this article from testimony by Texas Congressman Ted Poe here- Talk about the Fox in charge of the hen house...
http://poe.house.gov/News/DocumentSingle.aspx?DocumentID=138410

Posted by: NewFreedom1 | March 23, 2010 4:41 PM | Report abuse

Joe Biden is absolutely right, Mr. President, it's a huge F....... deal.
Well done and well said. Sometimes those words are deserved. After putting up with GOP manure for a year, it's about time.

Posted by: asja | March 23, 2010 4:38 PM | Report abuse

I can't wait to save my $2500 off my insurance. This is great! What do you mean more taxes...it's a payback of $2500 per year per household. Our Prez is so good.

Posted by: doggit1 | March 23, 2010 4:38 PM | Report abuse

God love you Joe Biden.

Posted by: peepmonger | March 23, 2010 4:25 PM | Report abuse

Right on, Mr. Biden, it IS a big deal.
Now, will the FCC fine CNN for airing an obscenity?

Posted by: WizDad | March 23, 2010 4:24 PM | Report abuse

This is what the state of mature discourse has come to in America? That we've passed a momentous bill and the news is that VP cursed near an open mike?

Posted by: egc52556 | March 23, 2010 4:23 PM | Report abuse

What else would you expect from a cad like Mr. Biden? Its not like the guy oozes class & sophistication.
BTW, Merely being less crass than Mr. Cheney doesn't make him qualified to hold the office of Vice-President.

Posted by: brattykathyi1 | March 23, 2010 4:23 PM | Report abuse

we'll see in a year or two..when the democrats are in prison camps and nailed to crosses on the road into DC....LOL

Posted by: JWx2 | March 23, 2010 4:21 PM | Report abuse


Actually, Biden should have pulled a Cheney and instead told the GOP/teabaggers to go "F" themselves.

Posted by: B-rod | March 23, 2010 4:16 PM | Report abuse

Biden and Cheney both should have been took to the shed and received 40 lashes

Posted by: Micholina1 | March 23, 2010 4:19 PM | Report abuse

Actually, Biden should have pulled a Cheney and instead told the GOP/teabaggers to go "F" themselves.

Posted by: B-rod | March 23, 2010 4:16 PM | Report abuse

Actually, Biden should have pulled a Cheney and instead told the GOP/teabaggers to go "F" themselves.

Posted by: B-rod | March 23, 2010 4:15 PM | Report abuse

I Love Joe Biden!!! Always have...

Posted by: Collette1970 | March 23, 2010 4:14 PM | Report abuse

I think Biden's choice of words for once was apt.

Big F-ing is exactly what American taxpayers are going to receive at the hands of this bill.

Big F-ing is exactly what is going to happen to our AAA bond rating when Obama and Congress are unwilling to increase taxes to make up the actual cost of the bill, and borrow more money from China or print more money.

Yep, it is a Big F-ing Deal alright. Get ready for a big F-ing, America.

Posted by: Wiggan | March 23, 2010 4:10 PM | Report abuse

The big deal is the 16000 SS Troopers that will be drawing blood samples and starting the data base. What we see is only the cover of the book and later we will see why Obama lied repeatedly about having open insurance meetings on CSPAN....get ready!
Anyone who is swallowing this reform must be close to Bill Clinton. OPEN WIDE!

Posted by: doggit1 | March 23, 2010 4:08 PM | Report abuse

Now when the presidents gets home...he has to explain to his two girls that the vice president isn't to bright.....now children that hear about what he says,,,wonder why it isn't ok if they say it...if the Vice president can..

Posted by: Micholina1 | March 23, 2010 4:06 PM | Report abuse

The second part was meant for others here, not you.

I just don't think using the F word has any bearing on a person's maturity. This isn't 1950.

Although I also wouldn't go so far as to say many people in Washington don't act like 14 year olds.

Posted by: maurban | March 23, 2010 4:05 PM | Report abuse

I hope Biden did say it, because it's the truth. And I'd buy the T-shirt, too.

And to those who are so horrified that an elected official might use a vulgarity, you might better direct some of your thoughts to those teabaggers who used the n-word and the f-word to address John Lewis and Barney Frank. Republicans have about as much standing to protest vulgarity as the CEO of a tobacco company has to come out against drug abuse.

Posted by: andym108 | March 23, 2010 4:04 PM | Report abuse

Who cares?

Posted by: meand2 | March 23, 2010 4:01 PM | Report abuse

Maurban, congrats on your use of the F word. That's great. I certainly included both parties in my post.

Posted by: chrispa | March 23, 2010 4:01 PM | Report abuse

Excuse me, I use the F word every day. It doesn't make me a 14 year old.

And it is interesting to see conservatives, whno defended Cheney when he cursed at another Congressmen, now admonish Biden for it

Posted by: maurban | March 23, 2010 3:59 PM | Report abuse

This is what it has come to??? We are proud of our VP for using the "F" word. Really? No really? Regardless of what your feelings are on this issue, do we really want our elected officials to act like 14 year old boys - regardless of political party? It is completely gratuitous.

Posted by: chrispa | March 23, 2010 3:56 PM | Report abuse

So, what else is new about Bidens comment?
Very appropriate from a member of the jacka$$ party. That is their signature representation, is it not?

Posted by: SeniorVet | March 23, 2010 3:49 PM | Report abuse

Biden is right.

Posted by: jake14 | March 23, 2010 3:48 PM | Report abuse

Awesome! Classic Biden. At least he wasn't telling someone else to go F themselves. Although to be honest I didn't have a problem when a certain other VP did that either...

Posted by: maurban | March 23, 2010 3:46 PM | Report abuse

Now we know why CSPAN wasn't allowed to show the OPEN insurance negoations...it would have to be xrated. Not because Ovomit is a liar, he really meant to be transparent.

Posted by: doggit1 | March 23, 2010 3:46 PM | Report abuse

Too late, folks - as miesque pointed out: after Cheney's pronouncement, such things are now admitted as part of govt business.

Posted by: DrDave1 | March 23, 2010 3:41 PM | Report abuse

CNN is covering live via LoggTV.com internet television

Posted by: TelexView | March 23, 2010 3:36 PM | Report abuse

GASP!

...nope, don't F___ing care.

Posted by: Crucialitis | March 23, 2010 3:34 PM | Report abuse

I wonder if the FCC is going to fine all of the news networks who carried this f-bomb live. I mean, they have done fines for other live events...or is it O.K. for vice presidents to talk trashy, but not for rock stars to?

Posted by: blert | March 23, 2010 3:29 PM | Report abuse

Well, at least the Jerry Springer crowd is happy now. The rest of us will have to work at little harder now to pay for this.

Posted by: patilee | March 23, 2010 3:29 PM | Report abuse

As usual, the Vice Doofus Foot-in-Mouth steals the President's thunder by doing the only thing he knows how to do: stick both of his size 12s in his ridiculously big mouth.

But of course, it's not his fault because the healthcare bill only today became law and Joe hasn't yet had time to get that brain transplant he's been needing.

Posted by: flintston | March 23, 2010 3:27 PM | Report abuse

Nobody is going to argue that Joe is incorrect in his assessment of the situation. The Healthcare Bill is no less an achievement than Social Security or the Civil Rights Act.

As to the Republican leaderships nasty, prolonged battle, and their most recent proclamations that they'll "get even at the polls" during the next mid-term elections, I want to go on record predicting the tables have turned.

Posted by: independentguy2 | March 23, 2010 3:22 PM | Report abuse

At least it was the adjectival form of the expletive rather than the verbal form so common with the former VP. Way to go, Joe!

Posted by: old_sarge | March 23, 2010 3:18 PM | Report abuse

Biden, the "statesman", at his finest.

Posted by: wearedoomed1 | March 23, 2010 3:18 PM | Report abuse

Holy Rahm Emanuel!

Posted by: gman5541 | March 23, 2010 3:14 PM | Report abuse

Washington Post, maybe you should make this shirt and sell it. You're always saying the newspaper industry is losing money.

Posted by: dkp01 | March 23, 2010 3:13 PM | Report abuse

I'll BUY that t-shirt...It WAS a big $&*#-in deal!

Posted by: cbl55 | March 23, 2010 3:10 PM | Report abuse

I would wear a t-shirt with Biden's face and the phrase "A Big [expletive] Deal" on it.

Posted by: dkp01 | March 23, 2010 3:07 PM | Report abuse

Biden is 100% right. And vanzal1, you are spot on. This is a perfect example of an inoffensive use of one of the most versatile words in the English language.

There's a t-shirt already, I hear.

Posted by: financepirate | March 23, 2010 3:06 PM | Report abuse

You are spot on, Joe! A touch inelegantly said, but right on the money! Long may Mr. Biden be Vice President of the USA. No fuss, no muss, just a normal human being. More power to him!

Posted by: mharvie | March 23, 2010 3:05 PM | Report abuse

He used it properly as an descriptive adjective in a sentence. A very good example for the kids. As opposed to our previous VP who used it as an impossible directive, as in "... good f##k yourself!"

Still not sure how that one works...

Posted by: vanzal1 | March 23, 2010 3:02 PM | Report abuse

Vice President told Senator Pat Leahy to go F*ck himself on the floor of the United States Senate. How did the MSM react? Chuckles and silence. Vice President Biden is overheard on an open mike and The Sky is Falling! Is it me or is there some discrepancy in the media reaction?

Posted by: Leporello | March 23, 2010 3:02 PM | Report abuse

chrispa writes
"any serious economist will tell you that this plan is very light on cost savings measures."


You are right that that this bill is imperfect and our work is not yet done. Perhaps now Congress will learn to work together and increase their efforts at bending the cost curve.

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Posted by: bsimon1 | March 23, 2010 3:01 PM | Report abuse

Biden's uncharacteristically brief assessment is spot-on.

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Posted by: bsimon1 | March 23, 2010 2:57 PM | Report abuse

Lets all cheer for the IRS!

Hopefully the fines, interest payments, and penalities imposed by monthly monitoring of compliance of this new law will help defray the cost.

Posted by: WK91 | March 23, 2010 2:55 PM | Report abuse

I Love Joe! I said the same thing when the votes were counted, and also high-fived and gave the tea baggers the one finger salute!

Posted by: hayden1 | March 23, 2010 2:53 PM | Report abuse

Big Fu@^in Deal

Posted by: rocotten | March 23, 2010 2:48 PM | Report abuse

Significantly less offensive than "baby killer", the other racial and homophobic threats, and spitting on a U.S. Congressman.

Posted by: BBear1 | March 23, 2010 2:46 PM | Report abuse

Yet another class act by the academic elite. We are all so fortunate to have these "leaders". Somebody mentioned cheering all over the land. I think that statement should be amended to cheering all over 46% of the population, disproportionately located in the larger cities.

Bottom line, we can't afford this plan - and don't say cost savings - any serious economist will tell you that this plan is very light on cost savings measures. Not to mention the significant financial difficulties of Social Security and Medicare. We will need to fix these entitlement programs some day. The math of taxing the wealthly doesn't work - there are only so many of them and I promise you that they are already at work determing how to lessen the tax burden. When they are successful, that will mean lower than expected revenue. Oops.

Posted by: chrispa | March 23, 2010 2:45 PM | Report abuse

Ah, the human gaffe machine strikes again.

Posted by: bs2004 | March 23, 2010 2:40 PM | Report abuse

Rock on Joe, spoken like a true coal country son.
I am so tired of family, friends and town folk where I live losing everything because of an illness that is poorly covered or not covered by insurance.

When you walk a mile in their shoes, then come talk to me.

Thanks again Joe.

Posted by: nstein1 | March 23, 2010 2:35 PM | Report abuse

For me, being self employed and without insurance this bill is definitely a Big F%$king Deal.

Posted by: joe_oclon | March 23, 2010 2:34 PM | Report abuse

Looks like we are getting the "f" in "bfd".

Posted by: changein2012 | March 23, 2010 2:33 PM | Report abuse

I don't want to hear one single word about what Joe Biden may or may not have said, privately, that was overheard accidentally, after the filth, garbage, trash, ugly, hateful, digusting, venomous explitives used by the Republicans both on the floor of the United States House, by Dick Cheney in the United States Senate and by paid Republican hate mongers on the steps of the Capitol. How dare you even run this story!

Posted by: miesque | March 23, 2010 2:20 PM | Report abuse

Biden is right! It is a big f#ing deal.

Posted by: maymet | March 23, 2010 2:16 PM | Report abuse

I don't want to hear one single word about what Joe Biden may or may not have said, privately, that was overheard accidentally, after the filth, garbage, trash, ugly, hateful, digusting, venomous explitives used by the Republicans both on the floor of the United States House, by Dick Cheney in the United States Senate and by paid Republican hate mongers on the steps of the Capitol. How dare you even run this story!

Posted by: miesque | March 23, 2010 2:16 PM | Report abuse

Fight organized crime: Re-elect noone!!!!

Posted by: FireWashington | March 23, 2010 2:06 PM | Report abuse

This is why I voted for Joe Biden. He's a real outfront guy; no airs about him. And in this case he's absolutely right; health care is a "BFD"!

Posted by: shockedindependentvoter | March 23, 2010 1:43 PM | Report abuse

Reference to the comment by 'mrlogical' at 1:16 PM.

You are so right. The cheering is deafening.

I can hear it all over this great land.

In fact I am sure "Ted" Kennedy heard it too!!

Posted by: hfaulk01 | March 23, 2010 1:22 PM | Report abuse

I really can't make out anything Biden says to Obama at all. How can anyone hear over the cheering?

Posted by: mrlogical | March 23, 2010 1:16 PM | Report abuse

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