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Here come the Republican amendments

By Shailagh Murray
Senate Republican amendments to the health-care "fixes" bill are stacking up, and some could prove tough for Democrats to oppose when the around-the-clock "vote-a-rama" begins later today. And yet if the legislation changes in any way, it must return to the House for a final vote. So look for Democrats to hang tough -- at least on most of these measures.

Here are highlights from the growing list:

Among the 12 amendments offered by Sen. Tom Coburn (R-Okla.), a physician, one would would stop fraudulent Medicare and Medicaid payments for prescription drugs prescribed by dead providers, or to dead patients. According to Coburn, this actually happens. The amendment also would prohibit coverage of Viagra and other erectile dysfunction medications to convicted child molesters, rapists, and sex offenders. "There's no prohibition in the bill for this, at this time," Coburn said on the Senate floor.

Other Coburn amendments seek to offset the hiring of new government health-care workers with comparable layoffs; add new fraud-busting measures to cut Medicaid and Medicare abuses; and exempt band-aids, surgical gowns and latex gloves from a new tax on medical devices.

Sen. Judd Gregg (R-NH), the ranking Republican on the Senate Budget Committee, is pushing an amendment that could potentially gut the underlying bill, by ensuring that its hundreds of billions in Medicare cuts be spent on the Medicare program -- instead of to expand coverage for the uninsured. "It is a hard-and-fast commitment that Medicare savings will go to benefit Medicare, and that should be our purpose," Gregg said.

And Sen. Chuck Grassley (R-Iowa), the ranking GOP member of the Finance Committee and an early negotiator of the Senate bill that become law on Tuesday, wants to force President Obama, his senior staff, members of Congress and other high-ranking government officials to buy their health insurance over new exchanges. The bill just signed by Obama would create these state-based marketplaces for those who don't have access to affordable plans through their employers.

"President Obama has publicly advertised that his reforms would give members of the public the same coverage available to members of Congress," Grassley explained in a statement from his office. "This amendment would ensure that he, his successors, and all his appointed political officials would also have the same coverage members of the public enrolled in the exchange receive."

By Shailagh Murray  |  March 24, 2010; 12:10 PM ET
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Comments

All this Bill of OBAMANATION PROVED WAS THAT DUMBORATSS VOTES CAN BE BRIBED-BOUGHT AND PAID FOR... Obama's MOTTO-While taking office "if you CAN'T BEAT'EM-BRIUBE'EM AND CHEAT'EM" ...and so will his legacy of so called leadership BE REMEMBERED....Enough said...

Posted by: elisafaith13 | March 25, 2010 2:18 PM | Report abuse

Indeed Obama won only a battle. But I have a hunch "Healthcare reform "is likely to turn
into another "One hundred years war"
My concern however is that Obama concentrates first and foremost on security.
Healthcare is a worthy endeavour indeed. But
Security should be TOP PRIORITY since it concerns the lives of the American people and I would not want to see American blood
spill again. No more orphans, no more weeping wives or husbands mr President.

Posted by: jeanpierregamet | March 25, 2010 9:30 AM | Report abuse

With there recent action of no votes and advertised aggressive behavior to be taken within the court system over this National Health Care Bill. The GOP and RNC have done more harm than they have done good.
The people of this country know full well the time for Health Care coverage availability for every American is way over due and for the Republicans to say it's not what the people want or need is ludicrous poppycock.
This country has just completed 12 years of Republican Rule and ideology, much of which has done nothing more than brought about financial disparage to our countries job market and manufacturing base.
People are tired of the same old political polarization created by both the Republican and Democratic Parties and their supporting cast of Greedy Corporate lobby's.
It's time for a change, and like it or not that change has begun.
Good Day from jtynoble

Posted by: jtynoble | March 25, 2010 12:30 AM | Report abuse

I suppose the Cheny-Bush years were the Golden Age of financial and war time ruin to be proud of? The people WANT CHANGE and that includes health care reform and this is what we voted for but the wealthy won't except that the status quo is-a-changin. The Republicans just don't get it, they lost the election.........period. What the Republicans should be doing is help the President clean up the messes they created and quit being selective when it comes historical made up history they try to forget and recreate respectively via their nazi type propaganda.

Posted by: Rlupodimare | March 25, 2010 12:24 AM | Report abuse

Now there is not a snow balls chance in He-l that any of these will pass.

Two are realistic.. the Medicare fraud and savings GOING BACK into that program. and the Medicaid Fraud and Savings going back into thse programs.

The IDEA that all the scum that voted and supported this OBAMACARE cra- MUST be in the same program as the rest of America is and should be amended as LAW. They have assured themselves of the BEST POSSIBLE CARE at the expense of all AMERICANS. You have the crooks insuring that they are TAKEN CARE OF.. because they can SAVE THEMSELVES... Sort of like the UNION BOSSES taking care of themselves as the UNION WORKER is hung out to dry.

Posted by: miller515501 | March 24, 2010 11:42 PM | Report abuse

The Republicans are playing games. They are trying to get some of the language changed so the bill will need to go back to the House. Dems--vote all of their amendments down. Then, next week if the Republicans still think their amendments are vital, then they can bring them up under a single bill. Back at ya!!!!!!

Posted by: pgmichigan | March 24, 2010 10:23 PM | Report abuse

Davidbronx:
So well said! Not only are they angry they lost the election, they cannot accept the fact they were beaten by a black man. Note the many undertones.
Jon"
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STOP SPREADING RACISM PLEASE!!!!!
It is people like you that cause racism.
Our President is more white than Black. (He was raised by his white mothers family)
Please try not to be racist...Try to Look under the skin for once!

Posted by: Intuition1010 | March 24, 2010 7:04 PM | Report abuse

Most of the comments on here, are just name calling towards republicans. There were some very important points brought up and because a Republican wrote the post, automatically they were put down. This serve NO ONE in America's best interest. It seems that as soon as the Republican states a point, the Party members tear it apart without even thinking how it may benefit them or their families. This way of thinking and the hate behind it will be the down fall of this Nation. If one cannot learn by their mistakes......they will never learn a thing....ever.

Posted by: Intuition1010 | March 24, 2010 6:42 PM | Report abuse

I encourage evrey senate democrat to vote down every republican amendment concerning the current health reform bill for the present time. If any have true merit, which some of them may, they can be taken up later. I mean, the GOP wouldn't want to rush anything through without proper time to consider it.

Posted by: jmdziuban1 | March 24, 2010 6:28 PM | Report abuse

We just spent 8 years suffering through the worst administration in the history of this country, which gave us a $3 trillion war that was supposed to be paid for by Iraq's oil revenues (per chicken-hawk Cheney) and is still going on after 7 years when it was supposed to last less than 6 months (per the "best ever" SecDef Rumsfeld). We were also treated to a near Depression by the No Regulation Free Market Republicans. And they haven't learned any lessons from those disasters. They don't want to cover the millions of American citizens who can't afford the health care insurance offered by the inefficient, expensive. claim denying HMO's whose chiefs retire with $110,000.000 packages and raise annual premiums by 39% at a crack. Where were the Party of No's health reform package and these latest stalling amendments before now.

Posted by: novsmozkapopp | March 24, 2010 6:19 PM | Report abuse

So blogging has become the gloat venue of the Left? Must be because that ratings bonanza Air America got their transmitter shut down....it's unbelievable that the millions of "true believers" couldn't have ponied up a buck each to perpetuate those weenies.

The Dem talking points on what the CBO quoted for numbers are true BECAUSE THE CBO ONLY QUOTES WHAT NARROW PARAMETERS THAT ARE ASKED OF THEM! Fact-checking the bill produces a huge deficit in the first 10 years, and the second 10 years projection will be about as accurate as Willard Scott predicting rain one month from now. History will tell you that such projections are light.

Pay close attention to the costs, because I'm certain that the more scrutiny the bill gets, the less shade the health care neophytes in Congress will have.

My employer clients are flipping out about the costs levied on owners, the company, and employees. I'm quite OK with the benefit changes that will be built into the plans, but what I'm not OK with is the bold-faced lie that the D's are spreading about 1. premiums going down as a result, and 2. that insurers can no longer cancel your coverage due to high usage BECAUSE THAT BECAME ILLEGAL IN 2003 UNDER HIPAA.

We need to get at the underlying cost of care, increase the wellness of this bloated nation, and cut down or out the giveaways that tickle the Left. That's precisely why the bill needs to be revisited.

Finally, the government needs to keep their mitts off Social Security and Medicare trusts, and along with the deficit make replenishing them priority #1.

Posted by: KidCharlemagne | March 24, 2010 6:15 PM | Report abuse

The Party of NO! is doing their best to make sure that they live up to their new name. There are in fact some good ideas to stop fraud in the article, but wouldn't the best way to address those issues be in separate criminal laws, rather than buried in the general health care bill? It all boils down to fraud, embezzlement, theft, stolen identities, all which should be addressed in separate criminal statutes. Any citizen should be able to go to one specific area of the Federal law, and search out what are crimes, rather than have them hidden deep inside of the Health Care act for the unsuspecting to run afoul of.

Posted by: atc333 | March 24, 2010 6:13 PM | Report abuse

Why does everything have to be democrat vs. republican? If a republican pres. would have come up with this same bill, would it be any different? The rep. would be praising it and dems would be faulting it. I personally see nothing wrong with everyone having health insurance. I have seen way too many people go without healthcare because of the outrageous cost private policies are, and the company they work for does not provide it. Then, they come to the ER because they have no choice left. By then, it is too late. Have seen many die or that have chronic conditions that need long term treatment and care. But yet, they still go untreated because of the cost. Many were put in this situation because of loss of employment which began way before Obama's term. Even though I do not make $250,000.00 a year, I would still be willing to pay more taxes if meant for those who have been denied, especially children, to have the access to get the care they need. Previous administrations did not ask the public if it was O.K. to spend billions on an unecessary war, which in turn has greatly increased our costs for healthcare. Did they not think off all the lives that have been lost? All the cost for the medical care of the injured, physically and mental? At least this president did say he was going to do healthcare reform. I am almost ashamed to say I am even an american for the behavior of those in the political world, makes all of us look bad. And I really hate the black vs. white that continues to go on and on. It does not matter the color of your skin, but what is beneath it. And to those who forget that Obama is bi-racial, which I would have hoped with this still racist country. Still hard to believe that some people just cannot seem to get past issue and get on with the future.

Posted by: whyallthehatred | March 24, 2010 6:02 PM | Report abuse

OK, let me see if I have this right.
Democrats must vote no on all amendments, no matter how sensible, to avoid the bill going to the floor for a real vote.
Yep, thats change I can believe in.
Posted by: Wiggan

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That's rich. Sensible and republican amendments in the same thought. Wiggan the change happened. You can believe that. Attempts at reversing it will be dealt with appropriately: round filing cabinet.

Posted by: Reesh | March 24, 2010 5:20 PM | Report abuse

ha!!What a bunch of LOSERS...lets see "we the people" gave how many trillions to a few banks?? No indictments...no accountability..no questions asked...no answers offered. In the process "we the people" OWN AN INSURANCE COMPANY. Foreclosures are rising along with unemployment...SEC doesn't regulate anything, rating agencies are a joke, consumer protection is going to the FED, FDIC is bankrupt along with most states and are engaged in 2 illegal wars. Meanwhile, the focus is a health care plan with no real benefits for years? DISTRACTED LOSERS each and all.

Posted by: ANOLMEC | March 24, 2010 5:03 PM | Report abuse

There are so many reasons to file suit on this Obamacare Marx Madness... Virginia has a strong case and it is extremely likely their position will be validated by the Supreme Court on an expedited basis.

The other States argument is also very valid. Maybe Democrats should have actually posted the bill online, let people read it and allow debate on CSpan like Candidate Obama promised he would rather than cram it through in the dark of night with extortion and bribes the primary mechanism for passage. Can you say transparency? Apparently Obama never meant it when he claimed he would pursue such. Does he mean it when he says this "healthcare bill" will save money? Not even he believes that lie.

Do you think?

Posted by: Obama_TRAITOR_in_Chief | March 24, 2010 4:54 PM | Report abuse

Senator Grassey was quoted, "President Obama has publicly advertised that his reforms would give members of the public the same coverage available to members of Congress."

This brings up questions. Are these political elites in a "Cadillac Plan" or exempt Rolls Royce plan? Should we Pinto owners be able to get it for the same price along with the same services? Probably not.

But if you are an illegal immigrant, congrats, you will have public funded health care with immigration reform! A slight of hand maneuver by Congress-exclude illegal immigrants from the health care reform bill, then include them when Congress gives them their path to citizen ship. And we think we have experienced reckless spending to date? Just wait until immigration reform is passed.

Posted by: pepineagles | March 24, 2010 4:52 PM | Report abuse

Sounds like the Republicans are trying to take credit for a "good" health care bill already.

These neocons learn a lot from their corporate patrons.

Like the oil companies who fought tooth and nail against low-sulphur deisel for years in Scandinavia, where the governments of Sweden and Norway gave them an ultimatum many years ago. After the rest of Europe is now demanding it, too, the refineries advertise it like it was their idea.

Posted by: owldog | March 24, 2010 4:50 PM | Report abuse

Come on Repubs, notice the refrain from repugs, you need to to give eachother a real sincere hug right now. HCR was an amazing feat! Infact, Democrats go and reach out and hug a fellow Repub; Speaker of the House, Pelosi extend a hand to Newt, and we can all be friends, ... rid this divisiveness, and work on real nation building.
I apologize for those demeaning comments: repug, neocon, cigar smoking, scotch swilling, inside-trading, ticket tape counting, steak eating, fat cats. Turms out I love the country side, an occasional NY strip or black angus, malt scotch and doing well in the stock market. Hey, who does not like the high life, but also with a sense of greater public duty and good.

Posted by: solid3 | March 24, 2010 4:44 PM | Report abuse

bdavidarmitage wrote: “…and there has been little or no help for her in any way from the government where there should have been under existing programs!...”
-------------------------

So you checked out government programs and used what ‘little’ there was and believed there should have been more.

Doesn’t that totally go against your loathing for ‘entitlement programs’?

It’s great that you and your wife have the skills and ability to have jobs that pay enough for you to afford insurance, however without the this health care legislation your insurance that you work so hard to pay for can be dropped at any time by your insurance company. This legislation protects you from that.

Your theory that if you can’t afford insurance it’s because you don’t work hard enough is an extremely broad generalization and doesn’t apply to everyone in need. After all, if something horrible happened and there was only you or your wife left to care for the family, would just one of you be able to afford to keep up the insurance? Life insurance money doesn't last forever. It happens to people all the time. Would the one who’s left not be working hard enough if they couldn’t?

It’s ridiculous to make such generalizations. Besides, the majority of those getting health care plans will be paying premiums just as you and everyone else who has insurance does. It is not free to them as it is not free to you.

Posted by: Zarina1 | March 24, 2010 4:38 PM | Report abuse

I don't know if they tried to get these ideas incorporated into reform bill.

"congress etc.buy their health insurance over new exchanges" Why can't they have the same coverage they want us to have?

"ensuring that its hundreds of billions in Medicare cuts be spent on the Medicare program -- instead of to expand coverage"
Medicare will be insolvent if this is not done.

Posted by: njtou | March 24, 2010 4:38 PM | Report abuse

Come on Repubs, notice the refrain from repugs, you need to to give eachother a real sincere hug right now. HCR was an amazing feat! Infact, Democrats go and reach out and hug a fellow Repub; Speaker of the House, Pelosi extend a hand to Newt, and we can all be friends, ... rid this divisiveness, and work on real nation building.

Posted by: solid3 | March 24, 2010 4:35 PM | Report abuse

tncdel (on abortion funding)
You need to quit listening to Fox Noise, that statement is utterly false.
jon

Posted by: jtisch | March 24, 2010 4:31 PM | Report abuse

The sorry republican party is on the ropes. They lack a compassion for the struggles that many Americans are facing.

The GOP platform for regaining power is to obstruct much needed legislation. When the Party of No does support a bill, it is usually a gift for the top donors...like another horrible tax cut for the top 3%.

No, the GOP, and its shrinking membership, is headed for the garbage heap, where it rightfully belongs

Posted by: voultron2 | March 24, 2010 4:30 PM | Report abuse

If we can afford to waste $25 billion a year in foreign aid and $9 billion a month on the illegal Iraqi war, we surely can afford to take care of our own.
jon

Posted by: jtisch | March 24, 2010 4:29 PM | Report abuse

One amendment by Sen. Coburn will protect those doctors whose consciences prevent them from violating their Hippocratic Oaths...

to do no harm by murdering unborn babies before birth, as the healthcare plan will allow, forcing taxpayers to foot the bill for medically unnecessary abortions.

Posted by: tncdel | March 24, 2010 4:29 PM | Report abuse

First Amendement should be proposed by Dems to have all members of Congress covered by this plan!!

Pelosi and the rest don't want that, they just want OTHERS to pay for it!! After all they would be in the high income category, with the EXTA taxes, HYPOCRITES!!

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Posted by: linlinmeihua | March 24, 2010 4:27 PM | Report abuse

Gee, ALL the Lib posters that were so gleeful about the backroom deals and "reconciliation" tactics that Pelosi and BO used to pass this Bill are now crying Fowl, because the opposition is still opposed to it??

What grade are you Libs in, Third or Fourth??

Nothings changed in the last 24 hrs for Repubs to change their mind! FREE SPEECH for all, not just Democraps!!

Posted by: morphy | March 24, 2010 4:25 PM | Report abuse

Hypocrisy and duplicity know no bounds in the GOP. It is a sniveling party dedicated to the rich, opposed to healthcare for the masses. While they continue their campaign of lies and obstruction, they rally teabagger militias to attack congresspersons and Democrat Party buildings. ARREST these domestic terrorists and prosecute them to the fullest extent of the law.

Posted by: medogsbstfrnd | March 24, 2010 4:25 PM | Report abuse

Excuse me. Are these the same people who were whining about how many pages were in the bill? So, they seek to add more pages. I hope the senate stays in session continuously until all these amendments are voted down.

Posted by: cdierd1944 | March 24, 2010 4:22 PM | Report abuse

Excuse me. Are these the same people who were whining about how many pages were in the bill? So, they seek to add more pages. I hope the senate stays in session continuously until all these amendments are voted down.

Posted by: cdierd1944 | March 24, 2010 4:21 PM | Report abuse

Excuse me. Are these the same people who were whining about how many pages were in the bill? So, they seek to add more pages. I hope the senate stays in session continuously until all these amendments are voted down.

Posted by: cdierd1944 | March 24, 2010 4:21 PM | Report abuse

jsbar wrote:
"Obama signed.......nothing there is no House bill, resolution, or bill originating in the House and reconciled with the Senate. That's why the White House isn't crowing too much because it is not a law yet. Not until it is reconciled with the Senate version. "
Man you a have not been paying attention have you???
The law of the land is the Senate bill which passed the Senate in December 2009. The house passe this bill 'as is' last sunday night, and then immediately passed the reconciliation bill which include fixes to the senate bill. That reconciliation bill is what is being debated in the senate now. If the senate passes it without amendements it will amend the original senate bill. If the reconciliation bill fails, then the original senate bill will stand (including the cornhusker kickback and other special provisions) - so the repubs will vote FOR all these special deals by voting against the reconsiliation bill! Yep that will work well in November!!

Posted by: mulume | March 24, 2010 4:19 PM | Report abuse

Simple solution, write the rule so as to role all the amendments into one vote. Then vote them all down in one vote. Then vote on and pass the reconciliation package. Send it to the President for his signature and then go home for the break. Hold a town hall explaining what the legislation means this year regarding existing health insurance policies and new policies. Let them ReDuDlicans deal with rolling back all those pluses. (I don't think so.)

Posted by: old_sarge | March 24, 2010 4:16 PM | Report abuse

Changes to the bill should be made after it passes the senate!! Doesn't anyone understand?? Otherwise it will have to back to the house......delaying it again!!!!

Posted by: nhgal628 | March 24, 2010 4:15 PM | Report abuse

I hope the media reports the negative attitude of the GOP daily!! These are delaying tactics and obstruction....just as the GOP has always been against the ordinary man...give them the wealthiest of our society so that they can keep filling their party coffers. I never could understand how they coud brainwash any middleclass people into joining their party!!! The GOP perks are ALWAYS for the wealthy.

Posted by: nhgal628 | March 24, 2010 4:11 PM | Report abuse

OK, let me see if I have this right.

Democrats must vote no on all amendments, no matter how sensible, to avoid the bill going to the floor for a real vote.

Yep, thats change I can believe in.

Posted by: Wiggan | March 24, 2010 4:10 PM | Report abuse

I think Democrats should put some gun control laws, no capital punishment laws, etc. in the amendments and let us see how many Republicans vote for them.

Posted by: mikemajmundar | March 24, 2010 4:10 PM | Report abuse

The libs want us to become more and more like Western Europe, so let's approach that goal with enthusiasm.

When the newly elected congressmen are seated in 2011, they should immediately take necessary steps to vote on whether they have "confidence" in the Administration.

If they don't have confidence, we should hold a presidential election, perhaps within 3 months of the "no confidence" vote.

Posted by: dumbreddown | March 24, 2010 4:10 PM | Report abuse

If all of them are like the ones just reported in this article, then all of them ought to pass. Every single one of them improves what is currently in the bill. Medicare is something people have paid for since 1965, to create cuts in the program in services for seniors is not the way to pay for insurance for the uninsured. That money should go to shore up Medicare, which we are told is in danger.

Posted by: Tawodi | March 24, 2010 4:09 PM | Report abuse

Even though I know, having worked at the U.S Senate myself, that there is already in place a health care benefit system, why not include ALL Congressmen, instead of just the Democrats, to deal fairness to all of the American People, instead of the GOP always thinking about their own personal well-being and that of THEIR families.

I cannot for the life of me understand why Republican voters cannot see the crap the GOP is dealing them, while always trying to preserve a better hand for the GOP's own personal lives.


Posted by: lindalovejones | March 24, 2010 4:05 PM | Report abuse

bdavidarmitage
I am sorry about your daughter. I must comment on your statement:

"And the government has no business making me pay for someone Else's care,..." I got news for you, you are already paying for the care of others who do not have health insurance. In particular, those who use the emergency rooms who have no insurance and don't pay. We are paying for them through our higher and higher premiums because of it.
I think through the newly passed health care reform, now your daughter can get some badly needed help to take some of the burden of your family. And, I don't mind paying a little extra to help provide her that care.
Jon

Posted by: jtisch | March 24, 2010 4:05 PM | Report abuse

To fall in to the trap of assuming the pertinent subject is the health care Bill is to miss the whole point of this troubling debate. The Constitution is what is under attack here not some contrived "right" for health care. You cannot justify altering the intent of the provisions of the Constitution to provide for or require citizens to do anything without first addressing that Constitutional alteration and resolving that issue. The Constitution is primary, to disregard its imperatives, for any cause, is to violate the trust handed down to us by the founders of this Nation.

Posted by: ClarenceEDeBarrows | March 24, 2010 4:01 PM | Report abuse

I think it was the accessibility of exchanges for ALL that was the point. Good insurance choices just like Congress.
Not to disrupt or change
employer-provided health insurance? (Even if it is the Federal govt.)

Posted by: dcunning1 | March 24, 2010 3:54 PM | Report abuse

Kill the Bill!!!!

Health Care is a right that is earned, not an entitlement!

And the government has no business making me pay for someone Else's care, beyond what I do already for the OTHER ENTITLEMENT PLANS that I have been paying into.

And oh yeah, they have done such a beautiful job running SS and Medicare/Medicaid that they are running out of money because they've managed those so well. They'll be bankrupt before I see one thin dime of my own, much less anyone Else's!!!

I have a daughter( one of 3) born with a disabling and debilitating genetic disease- she will never be an independent citizen- and there has been little or no help for her in any way from the government where there should have been under existing programs!

So, how did she get care? Her mother and I WORKED to provide it, along with all the non-covered and out of pocket expenses, including drug treatments not available in the US. We also fork up the money for the life insurance that will pay for her existence after we die!

I bet 90% of medical problems today in our society are self induced. The other 10 percent have existing goverment (AND PRIVATE programs-LIKE INDIGENT CARE) that take care of most of the rest.
(Go to any emergency room today for treatment and if you have insurance, get in line...if your indigent, step right up and get taken care of!)

So, for those who suffer notwithstanding I do feel bad which is why we contribute to the United Way, Disabled Vets and the list goes on.


For the rest of you, smarten up, suck it up, pull 'em up and get going. Your making for a cry baby society and you are pathetic. I'm sick of it!

Posted by: bdavidarmitage | March 24, 2010 3:54 PM | Report abuse

You Obama drones and progressive socialist may be a bit premature on all the crowing your doing.
Obama signed.......nothing there is no House bill, resolution, or bill originating in the House and reconciled with the Senate. That's why the White House isn't crowing too much because it is not a law yet. Not until it is reconciled with the Senate version.

You progressives cut a lot of corners on this one and the toady media has been lying all along about "historic legislation that has been passed." As the legislation stands now it cannot be enacted ergo it is "NOT" the law of the land as our propagandist friends in the media are so eager to trumpet.
If one comma is changed on the Senate version it will require another House vote and you those socialist lefty democrats may not be able to pull off the required votes for passage a second time.

As it stands right now, this health care bill cannot be enacted because it dousn't exist.

Given the amount of lawsuits being filed I wouldn't look for any sweeping changes in health care with this Obama nightmare anytime soon. It could be tied up in the court system for years.

The trouble with overzealous progressives and other do-gooders out to remake society in their own image is they tend believe their own lies.

Posted by: jsbar | March 24, 2010 3:53 PM | Report abuse

These amendments are distressingly typical of current Republican politics in which even positive ideas must serve a negative purpose, i.e., achieving petty political advantage by being able to advertise that such-and-such Democratic incumbent voted against Motherhood and Apple Pie. It is a sad and complete indictment of current affairs that such machinations are considered to be clever.

The Republican platform - such as it is - does not contemplate the general welfare. It is patently elitist and extremist. Still, those poisons may be enough to cause significant political changes this November unless Democrats stop patting themselves on the back and begin motivating the enormous but fractured majority of Americans who know that doing something is almost always better than doing nothing. And that should be the angle -- the Democratic Party stand for doing something, as demonstrated conclusively by its actions. The Republican Party stands for doing nothing, as demonstrated conclusively by its actions, over and over again.

Posted by: pohare1 | March 24, 2010 3:53 PM | Report abuse

Another, really - really bad day for the DEMOCRUDS.

Posted by: stephenwhelton | March 24, 2010 3:52 PM | Report abuse

jfern03 wrote:

Great ideas, republicans. Where were you in March 2009?

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They were shut out of the room by Democrats.

Posted by: giantsfan | March 24, 2010 3:52 PM | Report abuse

Davidbronx:
So well said! Not only are they angry they lost the election, they cannot accept the fact they were beaten by a black man. Note the many undertones.
Jon

Posted by: jtisch | March 24, 2010 3:52 PM | Report abuse

THESE ARE NOT FIXES. THEY ARE OBSTRUCTIONS.
I WOULD LIKE TO SEE HOW MUCH THESE GOP PEOPLE ARE GETTING FROM THEIR LOBBYIST.
THIS IS NOT ABOUT HEALTH CARE. IT'S ABOUT SPECIAL INTEREST.
NOW IT IS BEGINNING TO INCREASE OUR LEVEL OF VIOLENCE THUS CAUSING A NATIONAL SECURITY PROBLEM. EVERYONE DENIES RACISM BUT SOMEHOW IT LOOKS LIKE THE SAME OLD GOP ACTIVITIES OF THE 20TH CENTURY THAT SAW AN INCREASE IN DOMESTIC TERRORISM. I HOPE THE DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE DOES NOT WASTE TIME MAKING EXCUSES BUT TO INVESTIGATE EVERY ACT OF TERRORISM WITH THE SAME EFFORT AS FOREIGN TERRORIST.
NATIONAL TERRORIST KILL AMERICANS. THIS IS WORST THAN FOREIGN TERRORIST BECAUSE WE ARE A DEMOCRATIC NATION VIOLENCE IS UNNECESSARY THEREFORE WE MUST BE HONEST AND CALL IT HATRED. THESE ARE VIOLATIONS OF CIVIL RIGHTS AS WELL AS TERRORISM CAUSED BY HATRED.

Posted by: sm98yth | March 24, 2010 3:50 PM | Report abuse


Ummm. Isn't fraud already against the law, a law, lots of other laws?

Posted by: dcunning1 | March 24, 2010 3:50 PM | Report abuse

It truly amazes me how idiotic some Americans can be. Why don't we say the real reason why we are against healthcare for all? As far as I am concerned if we wasted $1billion + a month for 8yrs!! in the name of national security, then there is no price tag for the well being of our nation.

Posted by: Enforcer | March 24, 2010 3:50 PM | Report abuse

If you step back and look at this bill, COMMUNISM is written all over it. Big government takeover. Less rights. Bankrupt the nation. Tax the risk takers, the companies who keep people employed, so the less fortunate can't find work and therefore eventually don't have to work for thier own health. At least the Republicans are trying to stall it.

I can be disgusted, because I do have a pre existing condition, Epilepsy, I have a Master's degree and have been out of work for 2 years, and now am going to my 3rd university. I want to work and earn my own healthcare benefits, even if it means higher co-pays. I just have to pray that the tax the companies will have to pay under this crazy bill doesn't prevent the companies from hiring me when I'm done school. It doesnt take a genius to know that companies cant hire without money!

It disgusts me that we Americans were totally disregarded in this process, and the least we can do is support the party that is trying to save our rights!

This President, House, and Senate needs ousted!

Posted by: artman706 | March 24, 2010 3:50 PM | Report abuse


Well. Let's take a page out of Sarah PALIN's
(comic coloring) book and
put each one of the amendments in the cross-hairs, and... PULLL! BAMM!

Posted by: dcunning1 | March 24, 2010 3:47 PM | Report abuse

It's great when your party controls both houses. All the dems have to do is smile and say no thank-you we will leave it as it is and the small stuff will be worked out in committee. Be sure and gives us a call.

Posted by: RobtAlan | March 24, 2010 3:47 PM | Report abuse

A majority in the Senate already promised to pass the reconciliation bill "as is". That would make any amendment, no matter how SEEMINGLY valuable, run counter to the agreement.

Posted by: JimZ1 | March 24, 2010 3:47 PM | Report abuse

We gave the GOP more of a debate that they gave us for the Iraq war. So once again they get their way. They don't care about the American people all they care about is politics, politics and big business.

It even more disgusting that they really are the hate filled, homophobic and racist hiding behind religion and guns.

If they had cared about the economy and future generations they wouldn't have started the war and we'd be able to pay for insurance.

They're now angry about two elections and the loss of the health care vote.

I hope this really turns on them come the next two elections. I would vote for one of those nasty old suits even if they turned around and actually became charitable humanitarians instead I expect them to show up for their votes wearing 100 egyptian cotton sheets and pointy hats. Although Boehner should stop with the fake tan or it'll be hard to see what side he's on.

Posted by: davidbronx | March 24, 2010 3:45 PM | Report abuse

Republicans are piling amendments after amendments, like banana peels on the floor, just hoping that one, just one will become the Waterloo of Obama presidency. They have sworn in many ways to defeat the bill, not to amend it. They will cite any frivolous charge, any motive, gays rights, abortion rights, patriot act, bogus constitutional violations, and on and on forever. What a bunch of disgusting unpatriotic anarchists.

Posted by: tango4hormigas | March 24, 2010 3:45 PM | Report abuse

You'll be snuffed out.

Read about Bacon's Rebellion.

Read about Shay's Rebellion.

Are you kidding me?!?!

YOU will be the ones watering the Tree of Liberty.

The Federal Government is stronger (and more necessary) than ever.

Get real; you idiots ! ! !

Posted by: SamanthaAdams | March 24, 2010 3:41 PM | Report abuse

What ever happened to "We the People" having a say in what laws are passed??!! This should have been voted on by "The People" in November not a hurry up pressure vote on Sunday night!! Most American Citizens do not want the Government meddling in their personal business!!!!!!

Posted by: Klimax | March 24, 2010 3:03 PM |

For 2 full years while he campaigned, Obama said he would push for health care reform. Obama and like minded representatives overwhelmingly won in Novfember of 2008. "We the People" had our say. What part of elections have consequences don't you understand?

Those of us that put up with 8 years of a dolt running the country into the ground while doubling the debt, starting two wars and acting as if the Constitution was something to be gotten around while tanking our moral authority around the world won this time. But because YOU'RE upset, we should just start over. Boo hoo numbnuts. Deal with it.

Posted by: bklyndan22 | March 24, 2010 3:41 PM | Report abuse

Yes, by the rules, the GOP is entitled to 20 more hours of nay saying and obstruction. Then, after that, they can all pile into history's dumpster and join polyester suits, death panels, the birthers, and last week's garbage.

Posted by: Reesh | March 24, 2010 3:39 PM | Report abuse

The bill just signed will improve access but will not address costs not improve quality of health care. Nonetheless I don't blame the Democrats. It is in their DNA to expand the government and offer more security at the expense of innovation and risk taking. I blame the Republicans. From 2001-2006 they controlled the federal government and the only thing they did on health care was create a new budget busting entitlement, Medicare Part D that did not even include a way to bargain with big PHARMA for drug prices. As Nixon, the cold warrior started the end of the Cold War with his openings to China and the USSR; Bush and the Republican Congress could have "stolen" health care from the Democrats if they had done then what they propose now. But they are just like their Democratic colleagues, when they have the power all they can do is expand it to extend their political longevity. Short of a real third party with educated people leading it (not the Tea Party, Glen Beck loving rabble) there is no real hope for the type of innovative free market that made the USA the greatest country in the world for the past 100 years.

Posted by: 54esteve | March 24, 2010 3:39 PM | Report abuse

Is it just me? Or does this debate look strikingly similar to the debate of the Civil Rights Movement?

States Rights?

Huh?!

The Federal Governmanet will triumph. We already fought that horrible, bloody Civel War.

And to all you Tea Baggers and Glenn Beckians... try it... bring your weapons to your next rally. Try throwing bricks threw Democratic Congressmen's window.

See what happens.

Posted by: SamanthaAdams | March 24, 2010 3:39 PM | Report abuse

The really insidious challenge is that of GOP attorneys general. If some judge ruled in their favor, his or her ruling would take down Medicare and Social Security too. They are mandates just like the health care mandate.

Talk about touching the third rail! The GOP is about to step right in the middle of it.

Posted by: tinyjab40 | March 24, 2010 3:31 PM | Report abuse

Congressman Issa was on point....why not just put all americans under a Healthcare Plan they were paying for,.for many years...that is the US Congressional Healthcare Plan, the same one members enjoy, but Pelosi balked at that because she doesnt want Sally, Jane, Barbara or Tamika to use the same Physicians she uses...it is Arrogance at its highest level. A one page document would have done the transfer and we wouldve been all insured quickly and if any members balked at it then we would really have some issues to debate. If it is sooooo important to insure us.

Posted by: Fred23 | March 24, 2010 3:29 PM | Report abuse

Lets face the FACTS: Republicans (Reagan, Bush, Gingritch, Beck, Limbaugh, Bachman, Demint, etc. etc. ) have been and are utter complete lunatics.

To be exact not all Republicans are Lunatics, some of them are very very smart actually. That is the Republican party is really composed of 2 distinct groups, well 3 groups if you include the paid agents of the 1st group:

1st group - The Super rich and Big corporations who want to make as much money as possible, damn be the American people or anyone else if that would reduce their ability to make $40Mill per year and fly in $50Mill private Jets, and this group controls the US Media to a 99% extent. For example nothing disgusts this group more than flying in a commercial flight, set aside fly in coach seat along with the lower classes that is the Middle class.

2nd group - Highly uneducated, untraveled, consumed by fear, consumed by anger, believers that Armageddon is coming and that in the ensuing world calamity which to their insane minds is good Jesus will take them to heaven in a Rapture, and other crazy's and "White Trash", who are easily brain washed by the lunatics of the right-wing Media to act against their own self interest and instead act for the interest of those groups that owns most of the US Media.

3rd group - The paid Agents of the 1st group working in the Media outlets that the 1st group owns, such as Talkradio (i.e., Limbaugh, Hannety, Beck, etc.), Fix news, CNBC, Wall Street Journal, etc. etc., whose job is to LIE and LIE to brain wash the 2nd group, the "White Trash" masses, that the Government cannot do anything, which is the Con Job to have them pay Taxes but ask and get nothing for their Taxes.

So the 1% of Republicans who control the Big corporations, Big Media, are very very smart, it is just that they are controlling with lies the uneducated masses (aka the White Trash that listens to Rush, Beck, Fix news, etc.) who are truly lunatics to fall for and in fact live these lies.

Complete article here:
http://anoox.com/blog/Real_News.34034

Posted by: RealNews1 | March 24, 2010 3:24 PM | Report abuse

Will any of these amendments help us avoid the same problems that Britain is having with their national healthcare plan? Read the story at the link below:

http://www.city-journal.org/2010/eon0322td.html

Posted by: ahashburn | March 24, 2010 3:24 PM | Report abuse

Truth is...

This was democracy at its best. Free Speech. Parlimentarian govenrnment.

I like that that nutbag TeaBaggers can come out and look the fool. That is critical to our freedom. Let them say waht they want. That's great. And if they bring their weapons -- I am certain that a state National Guard or the US Army could crush them. No worries.

And I like that the Reublicans have portrayed themselves as the "Defeneders of the Exorbitant Insurance Company Profits".

And I like that the Democrats are fighting (and winning) for the comman man, the working poor, the working class and the middle class.

This is WHO these two Parties are.

GOD bless America ! ! !

Posted by: SamanthaAdams | March 24, 2010 3:24 PM | Report abuse

The GOP is rather late to the game. Obama offered them a chance to provide meaningful input into this bill, but they rejected his bipartisan overtures toward them, effectively painting themselves out of the picture.

Posted by: Artisan1 | March 24, 2010 3:21 PM | Report abuse

I hope one of these amendments is to repeal the health care plan that the members of Congress receive.

Posted by: ProudFlagwaver | March 24, 2010 3:19 PM | Report abuse

I-R-O-N-Y.

The Repubs accused the Dems of employing legislative "trickery".

The Repubs need to read the Mayflower Compact.

Posted by: SamanthaAdams | March 24, 2010 3:17 PM | Report abuse

I like all of these amendments, especially the Viagara one. Give prisoners Saltpeter in their breakfasts instead.

I would add that money spent on Medicare should be spent on enforcing the anti-fraud laws that are already in existence.

Posted by: HookedOnThePost | March 24, 2010 3:15 PM | Report abuse

Well, when the cost curve gets bent, this bill will cover less than one sixth of the budget. When are people going to realize this. The bill passed--if you don't like it, change it. All I've got to say is that this is America--Love it or leave it!
It was done in a democratic forum, our Congress, and if you aren't for democracy, you are an ardent supporter of dictatorships. This was not about abortion, as claimed by many religious people, and when religion rules our nation of laws, we are reduced to those other fine country where religion rules, such as Iran, Iraq and Afghanistan, to name a few.
Isnb't Mexico largely Catholic? We could join those countries in having a religous gov't.
What gets me is that lobbyist still pursue, and give money to Republican members of congress... Can't they see that Republicans are ineffective at anything??? Who are the rocket scientist running these corporations and lobbying groups, and giving shareholder money and union dues to this class of gifted business executives?
Oh, must be the same people that made as much money in one day (testifying to Congress as to why their company was run into the ground on their watch) as some of their employees made all year!
If you don't like government sponsored health care, stay away from FAA controlled airports, off interstate highways, and stop insulting our most heroic of government employees-- I refer of course to our valiant troops. Oh, and tea party idiots, stop trespassing on government property.

Posted by: gfrimann | March 24, 2010 3:13 PM | Report abuse

Posted by Micholina1 | March 24, 2010 2:20: PMObamaCare will not protect children with pre-existing health conditions from being denied health coverage -- not until 2014. This despite endless talking points and promises to the contrary, the Associated Press reports.
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Which Republican Senator is doing the Amendment to make it happen earlier?

Posted by: jgmann | March 24, 2010 3:13 PM | Report abuse

BradG You must not have been paying attention. Where was the Replican Bill when the President met with ALL Replicans in Baltimore? Then they passed up a prime second chance when Cantor brings the Democrats bill as a prop to the last meeting. The so called Replican Bill was no where to be found. At least the Dems has one.
Do a little research before spouting more destructive GOP venom and get some ideas.

Posted by: Android3 | March 24, 2010 3:11 PM | Report abuse

AmericanAbroad1 has it right. The Senate Democrats should pass the existing health care legislation and then take up the various Republican suggestions one by one as separate bills. Then we could watch to see if the Republicans themselves would actually vote for their own proposals, or whether they have just tried to derail the new legislation. Some of those proposals are sound; some are ridiculous; but let's look at them in detail, not en masse, and call the bluff of these blowhards.

Posted by: j24w | March 24, 2010 2:15 PM | Report abuse

These GOP amendments are individual, not en masse.....The HealthCare legislation should have been initially addressed in smaller bills which could have been understood, rather than this huge piece which likely will have very harmful intended and unintended consequences.

Posted by: tnulta | March 24, 2010 3:09 PM | Report abuse

This 2900 page monstrosity...

This 3200 page monstrosity...

This 8328 billion page monstrosity...

(Each time Boehner hits the tanning booth or Scott Brown tries on his $800 leather shorts the bill adds another hundred pages).

Posted by: lithium452 | March 24, 2010 3:08 PM | Report abuse

What ever happened to "We the People" having a say in what laws are passed??!! Most American Citizens do not want the Government meddling in their personal business!!!!!!

Posted by: Klimax | March 24, 2010 3:03 PM |
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Most Americans SUPPORT the health care bill just enacted into law. Check the USA Today/Gallup poll taken yesterday. If you think a majority of American's support your Right Wing agenda you are very sadly mistaken bubba.

Posted by: Richard18 | March 24, 2010 3:07 PM | Report abuse

What ever happened to "We the People" having a say in what laws are passed??!! This should have been voted on by "The People" in November not a hurry up pressure vote on Sunday night!! Most American Citizens do not want the Government meddling in their personal business!!!!!!

Posted by: Klimax | March 24, 2010 3:03 PM | Report abuse

2 late ... sorry

Posted by: mdunjic1 | March 24, 2010 3:02 PM | Report abuse

These are ridiculous. Democrats are going to reject each one of them easily. No brainer.

CONs are trying desperately to look constructive when everyone knows their game.

Posted by: mdunjic1 | March 24, 2010 3:00 PM | Report abuse

jfern03:
Bush was responsible for 9/11

Obama for Obamacare

I'll take Obamacare any day of the week
______________________

You don't even know what Obamacare will mean! Why don't you wait until the 2700 page monster begins to eat the fabric of our nation's economy including yours!

Posted by: reddog19621 | March 24, 2010 2:58 PM | Report abuse

Bush was responsible for 9/11

Obama for Obamacare

I'll take Obamacare any day of the week

Posted by: jfern03 | March 24, 2010 2:51 PM | Report abuse

Great ideas, republicans. Where were you in March 2009?

Posted by: jfern03 | March 24, 2010 2:49 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: AnonymousBE1
If Grassley is so keen on elected and appointed officials using the exchanges, I am sure he won't mind also forcing Members of Congress to do the same...
________________________________
Did you read the article it stated: wants to force President Obama, his senior staff, members of Congress and other high-ranking government officials to buy their health insurance over new exchanges. What part of members of Congress did you not get.

Posted by: confusedwithgovernment | March 24, 2010 2:47 PM | Report abuse

Here comes the B.S!

Posted by: cmsatown | March 24, 2010 2:44 PM | Report abuse

If the GOP wants to make a contribution, then write a new bill that includes many of these ideas. It strikes me as odd, when the GOP said "kill the bill" when their alternative was nowhere to be found. Pass the reconciliation now, then work on additional measures later.
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You must not have been paying attention. A republican bill has been in existance for months. The Democrats, along party lines, refused to even let it be voted on.

Do a little research before spouting more talking points. Great resources at www.house.gov and www.senate.gov. Hard to spin primary documents.

Posted by: BradG | March 24, 2010 2:43 PM | Report abuse

It is really nice to see all the right-wing bluster come to nothing. There is the washing up to do after the big dinner of roast Republican. Naturally, all the GOP wants to do is help. They are exhibiting some splendid thinking that could have been made part of the Federal Law, that was signed by the President this week, if only they had participated meaningfully in the process. Instead, they sat in a corner and sulked while periodically complaining that they had been excluded. How much can the minority party participate when their attitude dictates NO CHANGE NO HOW NO WAY? Just file their ideas away for the next time HCR is considered. Some time after the GOP figures out how to pay for the needless Iraq War that was fought on behalf of the military/industrial complex's profit motive and the neo-conservatives' delusional thinking on how much our troopers are able to accomplish with brute force. Distributing durable medical equipment and erection pills to criminals, at extreme cost to taxpayers, is something one might think the FBI would be fully engaged in countering. No? Is it not illegal to bilk the Federal Government?

Posted by: BlueTwo1 | March 24, 2010 2:43 PM | Report abuse

ObamaCare will not protect children with pre-existing health conditions from being denied health coverage -- not until 2014. This despite endless talking points and promises to the contrary, the Associated Press reports:

Under the new law, insurance companies still would be able to refuse new coverage to children because of a pre-existing medical problem, said Karen Lightfoot, spokeswoman for the House Energy and Commerce Committee, one of the main congressional panels that wrote the bill Obama signed into law Tuesday...

Full protection for children would not come until 2014, said Kate Cyrul, a spokeswoman for the Senate Health, Education, Labor and Pensions Committee, another panel that authored the legislation. That's the same year when insurance companies could no longer deny coverage to any person on account of health problems.

Obama's public statements have conveyed the impression that the new protections for kids were more sweeping and straightforward.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Good read, but I thought they were scrambling now to fix it because it wont cover any kids with pre diagnosed illnesses ever

Posted by: Fred23 | March 24, 2010 2:39 PM | Report abuse

ObamaCare will not protect children with pre-existing health conditions from being denied health coverage -- not until 2014. This despite endless talking points and promises to the contrary, the Associated Press reports:

Under the new law, insurance companies still would be able to refuse new coverage to children because of a pre-existing medical problem, said Karen Lightfoot, spokeswoman for the House Energy and Commerce Committee, one of the main congressional panels that wrote the bill Obama signed into law Tuesday...

Full protection for children would not come until 2014, said Kate Cyrul, a spokeswoman for the Senate Health, Education, Labor and Pensions Committee, another panel that authored the legislation. That's the same year when insurance companies could no longer deny coverage to any person on account of health problems.

Obama's public statements have conveyed the impression that the new protections for kids were more sweeping and straightforward.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Good read, but I thought they were scrambling now to fix it because it wont cover any kids with pre diagnosed illnesses ever

Posted by: Fred23 | March 24, 2010 2:39 PM | Report abuse

ObamaCare will not protect children with pre-existing health conditions from being denied health coverage -- not until 2014. This despite endless talking points and promises to the contrary, the Associated Press reports:

Under the new law, insurance companies still would be able to refuse new coverage to children because of a pre-existing medical problem, said Karen Lightfoot, spokeswoman for the House Energy and Commerce Committee, one of the main congressional panels that wrote the bill Obama signed into law Tuesday...

Full protection for children would not come until 2014, said Kate Cyrul, a spokeswoman for the Senate Health, Education, Labor and Pensions Committee, another panel that authored the legislation. That's the same year when insurance companies could no longer deny coverage to any person on account of health problems.

Obama's public statements have conveyed the impression that the new protections for kids were more sweeping and straightforward.

Posted by: Micholina1 | March 24, 2010 2:20 PM | Report abuse

Let's make ALL members of Congress buy their insurance thru the exchange as well.

Posted by: Bangkokian | March 24, 2010 2:16 PM | Report abuse

AmericanAbroad1 has it right. The Senate Democrats should pass the existing health care legislation and then take up the various Republican suggestions one by one as separate bills. Then we could watch to see if the Republicans themselves would actually vote for their own proposals, or whether they have just tried to derail the new legislation. Some of those proposals are sound; some are ridiculous; but let's look at them in detail, not en masse, and call the bluff of these blowhards.

Posted by: j24w | March 24, 2010 2:15 PM | Report abuse

Move to table.

Posted by: dottie_b | March 24, 2010 2:14 PM | Report abuse

All of these ammendments could be passed at a later time, say during the next congress. None of them would go into effect immediately anyway.

Posted by: margaretmeyers | March 24, 2010 2:01 PM | Report abuse

http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/21304
Obama's 'win' over We the People
Obama signs ObamaCare Bill—Claims victory over American People
By Sher Zieve Tuesday, March 23, 2010
On 23 March 2010, the American Republic was formally ended. As Obama signed the ObamaCare Death Plan—which gives his Marxist Party control of 1/6 of the economy of the former United States of America—he declared “Victory!” Over whom, you ask?
A victory over the American people. At least 70% of We-the-People were against ObamaCare and it appears that the numbers are still growing. Obama decided to fight them with all the power available to him. He is—yet again—claiming “I won!” This time, it was a “win” over us all. Obama has won his battle over liberty and freedom and does not intend to give it back. He and his Marxist Party are now claiming that this is their country—not ours. And they will decide who is allowed to live here and who is not. That’s special attention on the word “live.”
However, determined to establish his Tyranny, Obama and his minions—in direct and uncompromising opposition to the vast majority of US citizens—ruled against the USA and its people. Make no mistake. Obama has now—with the help of the other traitors including but, not limited to Nancy Pelosi, Harry Reid and even faux pro-lifer Bart Stupak—established his own form of government. We are now officially living under a Tyranny, folks. Whether we are on the right or on the left, we are all now authoritatively ObamaSlaves. As time goes on, it will only get worse.
Have no illusions. This is the worst day—thus far—in American history. It is time to fight.

Watch: “Shadow Government” http://snardfarker.ning.com/profiles/blogs/videos-shadow-government-full?xg_source=msg_mes_network

And

Check out what Government is doing behind your back at: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VebOTc-7shU


Posted by: PaulRevere4 | March 24, 2010 1:53 PM | Report abuse

Money and politics, a visualization of why congressmen vote the way they do. http://www.tableausoftware.com/healthcare-bill-passed

Posted by: Memphis4 | March 24, 2010 1:53 PM | Report abuse

If Grassley is so keen on elected and appointed officials using the exchanges, I am sure he won't mind also forcing Members of Congress to do the same...ah, but of course the hypocrite won't do that. After, all Republic rhetoric was in part what defeated a single payer system that would have made everyone equal in terms of health care. Grassley and his ilk are vile.

Posted by: AnonymousBE1 | March 24, 2010 1:52 PM | Report abuse

Sadly, Obama and his cadres have declared war on capitalism, freedom, and personal choice. Many of us are not ready to surrender this country to a Socialist plague. As a famous warrior once said, "...we shall fight on the beaches, we shall fight on the landing grounds, we shall fight in the fields and in the streets, we shall fight in the hills; we shall never surrender"

Go Republicans - get this thing right!

Posted by: hill_marty | March 24, 2010 1:49 PM | Report abuse

GOP has done NOTHING but disrespectful childlike FEAR MONGERING for 14 months and now they think they can improve the bill. The GOP takes all of us for idiots- such hypocrites claiming to speak for the public. Every last one of them should be voted out- and the longer they act like childish losers over this bill they are voting themselves out- keep up the good work.

Posted by: dcperspective | March 24, 2010 1:47 PM | Report abuse

I propose an amendment to force the Republicans to continue making a$$e$ out of themselves.

Posted by: jade_7243 | March 24, 2010 1:43 PM | Report abuse

If the GOP wants to make a contribution, then write a new bill that includes many of these ideas. It strikes me as odd, when the GOP said "kill the bill" when their alternative was nowhere to be found. Pass the reconciliation now, then work on additional measures later.

Posted by: AmericanAbroad1 | March 24, 2010 1:41 PM | Report abuse

The GOP may try to help by adding the Public Option.

Posted by: crrobin | March 24, 2010 1:39 PM | Report abuse

The GOP did nothing but spend on a war in Iraq and start Medicare part D, without funding. Now, after 8 years of no health care reform propsed they want to help.
Good, try adding the Public Option.

Posted by: crrobin | March 24, 2010 1:37 PM | Report abuse

Will it help or hurt the Republicans to vote against the Health Care Bill Fixes?

http://www.youpolls.com/default.asp

.

Posted by: usadblake | March 24, 2010 1:07 PM | Report abuse

Where were these grand ideas in February 2010???

Posted by: adelef_2000 | March 24, 2010 12:47 PM | Report abuse

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