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House approves $15B jobs measure; Senate moves forward

Updated 3:55 p.m.
By Ben Pershing
Democrats' jobs agenda is moving again after stalling briefly, as the House passed one measure designed to boost employment Thursday and the Senate pressed forward on another.

The House voted Thursday afternoon, 217-201, to approve a $15 billion jobs measure whose centerpiece is a Social Security tax break for companies hiring new employees. Six Republicans joined the vast majority of Democrats to approve the bill, which also includes a one-year reauthorization of the law governing federal highway funding, as well as an expansion of the Build America Bonds program and a provision allowing companies to write off equipment purchases as a business expense.

Thirty-five Democrats voted against the measure, as liberals complained that it was too small and too focused on tax cuts rather than on spending.

Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) praised the bill Thursday, saying "it will provide support for small businesses. ... It would invest in building infrastructure for the future for our country." Pelosi added that it was "one in a series of other jobs bills that will come forward" from Democrats.

Rep. Tom Price (Ga.), chairman of the conservative Republican Study Committee, countered that the bill wouldn't make a real dent in the unemployment rate.

"Any company that can't afford to hire today still won't be able to hire if this bill becomes law," Price said. "Calling this a 'jobs' bill is pure fraud."

The measure passed the Senate last week, 70 to 28, with 13 Republicans joining 57 Democrats in favor. But because the House tweaked the bill, it will have to be approved by the Senate one more time before President Obama can sign it into law. The Senate is expected to take it up again next week.

Before Thursday's vote, a group of fiscal-conservative Democrats had raised complaints with party leaders that the cost of the bill was not completely offset. Concerns over whether Congress is adhering to its own, recently passed "pay-as-you-go" rules have been much in the news lately. Sen. Jim Bunning (R-Ky.) made the charge -- during his recent five-day stand against a separate package of temporary extensions of jobless aid and highway funding -- that Democrats were hypocrites on the issue.

So House Democrats amended the $15 billion measure to change the effective date of one of the measure's tax provisions, thereby paying for the roughly $2 billion portion of the bill that wasn't previously offset.

That change was enough to draw the support of Blue Dog Democrats, but some liberals still weren't on board, criticizing the bill's priorities. The House approved a $154 billion jobs bill in December full of spending on infrastructure projects and initiatives to help the poor, and some House Democrats want the Senate to take that approach rather than moving their jobs agenda in bits and pieces.

"I wish it was combined," Rep. Raul Grijalva (D-Ariz.); co-chair of the Congressional Progressive Caucus, said of the Senate's strategy. "It would be easier to digest."

The Senate, meanwhile, is slogging through amendments on a $150 billion jobs measure that includes one-year extensions of unemployment benefits and COBRA, plus renewals of a wide variety of expiring tax breaks supported by Republicans and K Street. The measure also includes money to help states fund Medicaid, a "fix" to prevent a cut in payments to doctors seeing Medicare patients, and help for private pension funds that were crippled by the economic recession.

Final passage of the measure is expected to come next week, after the Senate dispenses with several amendments. Those include a proposal by newly elected Sen. Scott Brown (R-Mass.) to cut payroll taxes across the board for all Americans, and to offset the cost by using unspent funds from last year's economic stimulus package. Brown delivered the first floor remarks of his Senate career Thursday in support of the amendment.

By Ben Pershing  |  March 4, 2010; 12:45 PM ET
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Stop the insanity you idiot's on Capitol Hill; and just what part of "NO!" do you not understand. The American people are fed up with "all of you" spending us into bankruptcy with no concern for how to pay for the debt you have accumulated.

Congress (the House and Senate) and the President are oblivious to the will of the American People and they have no understanding of the word “NO!”

If the President, Rep. Pelosi and Sen. Reid insist on passage of this bankrupt job's legislation, the President will be looking for a job in less than 3 years and the People will drive Congress out with a loud "Get Out and Stay Out!" this November.

Posted by: marinervn6971 | March 4, 2010 10:50 PM | Report abuse

To hell with the House and the Senate.

Why not just take all that money they are throwing around on creating job.

TEMPORARY at best.. Why not divide it among all those that make less than $125,000 that ARE CITIZENS and PAY TAXES.

Note the requirements for Citizenship and paying taxes.

I for one am sick and tired of the crap those on the hill are passing.

Personally if YOU are too sick, lame or lazy to work, not a citizen, do not pay taxes then you get nothing from the taxpayers. Unless you are UNABLE to work certified by a DOCTOR.. (none of that mental illness crap either.)

Then you get no money from Medicare, or Social Security.

Point is... if you can not carry your own weight.. and want to live on the dole.. there is nothing out there for you.,

Unable to work... you do community service.. work so many hours... you get medicare or social security.

How can anyone justify giving unemployment to ANYONE for 85-100 weeks..

There is no incentive to find ANY type of work... IF YOU can get by on unemployment or can work under the table.

TAke the 2.5-4.5 Trillion dollars and divide that up and give to EVERY CITIZEN of the United States THAT HAS PAID TAXES in the last 10 years.. and everyone can live off the interest.

I am sick and tired of rewarding non-citizens with health care, food stamps and FREE stuff because they REQUEST it.

I see foreign nationals in grocery stores getting food stamps because they have three or four kids. The entire family dresses better than I do. Meaning they have NAME BRAND CLOTHES and etc.

Most foreigners here in the United States are here because they are wealthy in their own country... and they can live better here on the dole.

There is so much graft, pork, earmarks in these bills for Job Stimulus... that I could be a multimillionaire by cutting out the graft.

Best idea is to cut Local, State and Federal Employment by 20 % over the next two years. Have mandatory retirement at 60 and cut pensions in half when they start drawing reach 70.

House that the Senate.. their pensions get cut in half when they retire and they pay half of their health care at age 65.

Posted by: miller515501 | March 4, 2010 9:39 PM | Report abuse

Fresh from the RNC DONOR HANDBOOK:

There are TWO types of Republicans:

1.EGO DRIVEN MOTIVATED BY 'ACCESS GUY'
(MILLIONAIRE)

2. VISCERAL REACTIONARY MOTIVATED BY 'FEAR'
(SUCKERS)

Posted by: austininc4 | March 4, 2010 8:31 PM | Report abuse

groetzinger wrote>>>>It seems the Right has changed their minds on tax breaks creating jobs.

LOL - and here's another GOP slogan that didn't work.....

"The government doesn't create jobs." - Bush, throughout the Bush Error

Posted by: angie12106 | March 4, 2010 8:06 PM | Report abuse

groetzinger wrote>>>>It seems the Right has changed their minds on tax breaks creating jobs.

LOL - and here's another GOP slogan that didn't work.....

"The government doesn't create jobs." - Bush, throughout the Bush Error

Posted by: angie12106 | March 4, 2010 8:06 PM | Report abuse

Yet another RNC power-point presentation - this time targeting the Insurance Industry for $50,000 donations!

http://www.democrats.org/a/2010/03/gops_224.php

Posted by: angie12106 | March 4, 2010 8:03 PM | Report abuse

What is the difference between a tax break and a tax cut?

A tax break is a tax cut for your friends.

A tax cut is for those that pay those taxes, all of those that pay those taxes being cut.

One is unfair (break), one is the definition of fair.

Posted by: docwhocuts | March 4, 2010 7:55 PM | Report abuse

It seems the Right has changed their minds on tax breaks creating jobs.

Posted by: groetzinger4404 | March 4, 2010 7:29 PM | Report abuse

Take out the $80 Billion in Tax Breaks for the wealthy that's the biggest part of this New $150 Billion bill and redirect the money into a Cash for Caulkers and Renewable Energy Loan Guarentee program that will create home grown Jobs for Americans. The Tax breaks are what the Republinans want and will not create any New Jobs. It's a waste of money that will not create Jobs nor improve our Energy and National security.

Posted by: liveride | March 4, 2010 7:27 PM | Report abuse

Where were you people for the last nine years??? The Bush and republican economy was based on DEBT.. DEBT homeowners,corporate America,wall street, could never pay back.
And who do think was building swimming pools, landscaping gardens, fitting out your kitchen that you never cook in?, on the borrowed money you sucked from your real estate?. It was low cost labour from Mexico that you were all happy to use, no union folks for your labour.

Posted by: JillCalifornia | March 4, 2010 7:01 PM | Report abuse

Six Republicans care about jobs. Six.

Posted by: jimsteinberg1 | March 4, 2010 6:44 PM | Report abuse

Hey Wait-a-Minute LORD! - You mean that creating a few measilly JOBS has came to the notice of the U.S. SENATE?! - WOW - AMERICA,-- after waiting a whole year thru unbelievable Suffering, the Senate thinks that maybe a few jobs might help. - The CONGRESS jumped faster than a cheetah on the tooo-Big $BAIL-OUTS of the Criminal $BANKsters & WALLsters whom caused the Economic CRISIS! -- CONGRESS, the TREASURY, & the Criminal Globalist "FED" $BAILED THE ECONOMIC Terrorists IMMEDIATELY!! - DA!? - Then after 1-2 years, thought that maybe a few old jobs might help a few Citizens. Maybe Create about 3-4 days of lost Jobs. -- 15-Billion for Jobs is 'chicken-feed'? - Well, 2-$TRILLION IN $BAIL-OUTS Is 2,000/15= 133.33 or 133 TIMES 15! If that isn't an act or TERRORISM, then Nothing is!!!!! -- 2-TRILLION Equals 2-Thousand-BILLIONS!! 'UNBELIEVABLE-to-the-MAX'!!??

Posted by: jward52 | March 4, 2010 6:23 PM | Report abuse

Please call an emergency session of the House and Senate and pass that $250.00 thing for the old and infirm people of this country. Man, have a conscience.

Posted by: mdsubramonia | March 4, 2010 6:12 PM | Report abuse

How many of these jobs will go to illegal aliens and foreign "guest workers"? Probably a lot, since employers prefer hiring cheap foreign serfs over helping unemployed Americans.

If Congress is going to give away my tax money to International Corporations, and least it could have required that Americans be hired. But it would rather line the pockets of its US Chamber of Commerce masters.

Posted by: pmendez | March 4, 2010 6:07 PM | Report abuse

"Or you’re just not that funny."
Posted by: askgees
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I never intended to amuse you or to be "funny"--at least several forms, primarily political, of satire never are.

Posted by: jlm062002 | March 4, 2010 6:01 PM | Report abuse

BREAKING: ‘Anti-Lobbyist’ Obama Administration Recruited Left-Wing Lobbyists to Sell Bogus ‘Green Jobs’

http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/breaking-anti-lobbyist-obama-administration-recruited-left-wing-lobbyists-to-sell-bogus-green-jobs/

Posted by: ManBearPig1 | March 4, 2010 5:44 PM | Report abuse

"You’re about as sharp as a bowling ball. It’s nice to know this is the quality we produced. LOL My 10 year old is twice as smart as you. I guess I can see why the LIB/DEMS chose the jack@zz as their mascot.
Posted by: askgees | March 4, 2010 5:15 PM"
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I guess you suffer from certain deficiencies which prevent you from understanding satire.
Posted by: jlm062002 | March 4, 2010 5:30 PM | Report abuse
Or you’re just not that funny.

Posted by: askgees | March 4, 2010 5:36 PM | Report abuse

Republicans ALWAYS demand tax cuts "across the board" - because, you know, the Wealthy can't afford to buy milk and bread without those tax cuts.
And now Scott Brown is demanding payroll tax cuts "across the board" - which leads to a HIGHER deficit!

Posted by: angie12106 | March 4, 2010 3:16 PM | Report abuse
LOL - LIB math. Count the money YOU HAVEN’T GOT. Guess what Einstein??? Tax cuts don’t lead to higher deficits. Excess spending leads to higher deficits. You’re about as dumb as they come. Are you also blond????

Posted by: askgees | March 4, 2010 5:34 PM | Report abuse

"Maybe Scott Brown is really a Democrat in disguise - the payroll tax is the most regressive tax in the Federal system, and any steps to eliminate it should be supported by liberals - yes, it will add to the deficit, but Democrats should he addressing that by taxing those earning over $250,000, foreign corporate earnings, energy consumption, and carbon emissions.
Posted by: SamBleicher | March 4, 2010 3:35 PM | Report abuse "

the payroll tax is what they base your social security payments on...
maybe this is the way the dems want to destroy social security by not funding it...
we pay for the checks that get written now...
if we don't collect...
the taxpayers will pay for it...
is that what you people want...

Posted by: DwightCollins | March 4, 2010 5:30 PM | Report abuse

"You’re about as sharp as a bowling ball. It’s nice to know this is the quality we produced. LOL My 10 year old is twice as smart as you. I guess I can see why the LIB/DEMS chose the jack@zz as their mascot.
Posted by: askgees | March 4, 2010 5:15 PM"
------------------------------------------
I guess you suffer from certain deficiencies which prevent you from understanding satire.

Posted by: jlm062002 | March 4, 2010 5:30 PM | Report abuse

"DwightCollins wrote>>>whats obama doing with the billions left over from the stimulis...
They funds have been appropriated, but not yet spent.
btw - your racism is showing.
Posted by: angie12106 | March 4, 2010 3:18 PM | Report abuse"

and so is your ignorance...
I'm not a racist...
but I will accept being a bigot...
not everyone has to like everyone...
but I am still not as hatefull as obama and you jokers...
this bill will do nothing and this President is a joke and has a high probability of being impeached and put out of office...

Posted by: DwightCollins | March 4, 2010 5:25 PM | Report abuse

Another ADDITION to the nation's multi-trillion debt, thanks to the irresponsible, TAX-AND-SPEND loony-left d-crat socialists.

Just 8 months until you're thrown out of office, loonies!

Posted by: TeaPartyPatriot | March 4, 2010 5:25 PM | Report abuse

DON'T LET THESE POWER GRABBING GOOFS EXAMINE YOU! I.E. HC

Posted by: houston123 | March 4, 2010 5:22 PM | Report abuse

"

DwightCollins wrote:
"whats obama doing with the billions left over from the stimulis...is he using that money and passing it on to his bros in the hood...is he showing preference to blacks over the rest of us..."

DC Sage 1 wrote: The President will not discriminate against you even if you are bloody jawed racist bigot with racism and hate dripping from pus-filled gums.

Posted by: DCSage | March 4, 2010 4:47 PM | Report abuse "

I don't look like your mama do I...

Posted by: DwightCollins | March 4, 2010 5:21 PM | Report abuse

Pelosi: "Americans don't you like my cake!!"

Posted by: houston123 | March 4, 2010 5:20 PM | Report abuse

this bill does what obama wants it to do...
nothing...
he does not care...
this bill won't create jobs and there are no plans in the works for jobs to be created...

Posted by: DwightCollins | March 4, 2010 5:19 PM | Report abuse

Six House Republicans care about Americans' jobs. What does that tell you? Six.

Posted by: jimsteinberg1 | March 4, 2010 5:15 PM | Report abuse

what an outrage!!! spending $ to actually help maintain the working and middle classes? why not just give them cake!!!
Fellow tea-party people should rise IMMEDIATELY and call your representative to make the GOP tax cuts for the wealthy the priority! Giving the rich tax cuts is where our tax $ should be paying for.
Posted by: jlm062002 | March 4, 2010 5:03 PM | Report abuse
You’re about as sharp as a bowling ball. It’s nice to know this is the quality we produced. LOL My 10 year old is twice as smart as you. I guess I can see why the LIB/DEMS chose the jack@zz as their mascot.

Posted by: askgees | March 4, 2010 5:15 PM | Report abuse

GOOD! NOW PASS HCR! DAMNIT!!!!

Posted by: demtse | March 4, 2010 5:12 PM | Report abuse

GOOD! NOW PASS HCR! DAMNIT!!!!

Posted by: demtse | March 4, 2010 5:11 PM | Report abuse

GOOD! NOW PASS HCR! DAMNIT!!!!

Posted by: demtse | March 4, 2010 5:10 PM | Report abuse

With each day that passes it becomes clear that the DEMS are running in circles. If it weren't so tragic it would be funny.

Posted by: askgees | March 4, 2010 5:09 PM | Report abuse

what an outrage!!! spending $ to actually help maintain the working and middle classes? why not just give them cake!!!

Fellow tea-party people should rise IMMEDIATELY and call your representative to make the GOP tax cuts for the wealthy the priority! Giving the rich tax cuts is where our tax $ should be paying for.

Posted by: jlm062002 | March 4, 2010 5:03 PM | Report abuse

This so called Jobs Bill contains PORK / EAR MARKS:
1) Extension for Patriot Act - I thought you Dems hated that?
2) Medicare Reimbursement for the Doc FIX.
It's enough to make you SICK.

Posted by: redsky28 | March 4, 2010 4:49 PM | Report abuse

750,000 jobs in the engineering, financial, and health care fields right now, you only need to have a high education in math and science. Since Americans rank 34th in those areas, Sorta have to go across seas to find people who can do the job. While most countries children feel blessed to have a school to go to and work hard for their belongings, in America, children hate school but also feel like they are entitled to have everything for doing nothing. Sorta sad.
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What is sadder is the fact that there are really no shortages of the domestic workers qualified to fill these jobs - perhaps even an over-abundance, in fact. The apparent "shortage" is due to the fact that employers do not want to hire them at the fair wages, but, instead, want to either offshore these overseas where the foreign counterparts are much cheaper to hire or import them via H1-B visa. And the Republicans in the Congress have been facilitating this all along in the name of free market and business growth.

Posted by: TalkingHead1 | March 4, 2010 4:28 PM | Report abuse
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that is a shame if there are people that can do the work in our own country but we don't hire them because of fair wages.
How do we fix our wages and extras which have gotten so out of hand that we have priced ourselves out of a job?
As a company owner, I have never hired outside the country, but I am also really quick to fire someone if they are not working hard for what I pay them.
If I am going to pay good wages (higher than the national average) and health care for my employees, I expect to get fair work back out of them.
Instead I get employees who dress like they don't care, show up late, leave early, call in sick and take vacation days all the time, misspelled words and poor grammar in all of their reports (I am not the best at this either, but I double check and then some before sending reports to clients), not meeting deadlines and unwilling to work late to make the deadlines, and still they expect raises and a bonus every year. If I worked like some of the people I have hired do, I would never have been able to get where I am today.
Why are so many of the younger generation lazy and unwilling to work but than also think they are entitled to everything?
My friend owns a manufacturing plant. He hires like 10,000 people or so. He has hired people from outside the country. He tells me that those people work for less but do almost 30% more work than any American worker he has hired, and he pays them more and they ask for more.
We talk and ask how things can be changed so that we can both hire and get what we pay for.

Posted by: ai3di | March 4, 2010 4:47 PM | Report abuse

DwightCollins wrote:
"whats obama doing with the billions left over from the stimulis...is he using that money and passing it on to his bros in the hood...is he showing preference to blacks over the rest of us..."

DC Sage 1 wrote: The President will not discriminate against you even if you are bloody jawed racist bigot with racism and hate dripping from pus-filled gums.

Posted by: DCSage | March 4, 2010 4:47 PM | Report abuse

Another Ponzi scheme, how much can these jerk offs steal at once.

Posted by: Obamasnotyamama | March 4, 2010 4:35 PM | Report abuse

You mean a company will hire someone just because the government gives them a one time payment?
These A##holes don't understand businesses and are just plan incompetent.

Posted by: Maxim49 | March 4, 2010 4:31 PM | Report abuse

"laugh at the Democratic side complaining that it is too much tax cuts and not enough spending when everyone knows that the Government can't spend money to create jobs unless they are Government jobs."

Everyone does not know this, because it is a blatantly false and stupid thing to say, and only someone whose brain has been damaged by right-wing propaganda would say it.

Spending on infrastructure creates jobs for contractors. Many of these contractors work primarily with private sector clients. These are not "government jobs".

Spending on research grants creates jobs at private universities and laboratories, including major corporations that apply for grants. These are not government jobs.

Both government jobs and private sector jobs pay what grown-ups call "salaries". People who receive salaries spend their money on housing, food, entertainment, and consumer goods which are made, warehoused, and sold by other people. More spending in these parts of the economy means more jobs.

Posted by: a_lafollette | March 4, 2010 4:16 PM | Report abuse
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You know I appreciate you clearing that up, and it does make sense. I am not the most informed, correct, or perfect person and don't make myself out to be. I was under the impression that the majority of jobs that has been created by the government has been government jobs expanding the size of the government. I just don't agree with spending our way out.
Next time, please don't act like you are superior to me and talk down to me like you are. My brain is not damage, and I am a "grown-up" so please act like you are and talk to me like I am as well.
You can be better At something than someone else, but you can NEVER be better than someone else. If you do think you are better than others, in truth you are not.

Posted by: ai3di | March 4, 2010 4:30 PM | Report abuse

750,000 jobs in the engineering, financial, and health care fields right now, you only need to have a high education in math and science. Since Americans rank 34th in those areas, Sorta have to go across seas to find people who can do the job. While most countries children feel blessed to have a school to go to and work hard for their belongings, in America, children hate school but also feel like they are entitled to have everything for doing nothing. Sorta sad.
****************************************************************************************

What is sadder is the fact that there are really no shortages of the domestic workers qualified to fill these jobs - perhaps even an over-abundance, in fact. The apparent "shortage" is due to the fact that employers do not want to hire them at the fair wages, but, instead, want to either offshore these overseas where the foreign counterparts are much cheaper to hire or import them via H1-B visa. And the Republicans in the Congress have been facilitating this all along in the name of free market and business growth.

Posted by: TalkingHead1 | March 4, 2010 4:28 PM | Report abuse

Why does the Republican Party hate middle class Americans so much?

Everything they do is designed only to protect the wealthy, and the profits of their corporate masters.

They pretend to oppose this bill on the grounds of fiscal conservativism, but it's plain as day that during the Bush years, that didn't mean squat to them. Now, the "Party of No No No" just wants to obstruct President Obama from doing anything to help Americans, so they have pulled the "fiscal conservativism" excuse out of their rear ends in a lame attempt to pretend to have some principles.

Thank you, President Obama, for your efforts on behalf of working Americans, over the hypocritical tactics and obstructive whining of the GOP!

Posted by: losthorizon10 | March 4, 2010 4:22 PM | Report abuse

"laugh at the Democratic side complaining that it is too much tax cuts and not enough spending when everyone knows that the Government can't spend money to create jobs unless they are Government jobs."

Everyone does not know this, because it is a blatantly false and stupid thing to say, and only someone whose brain has been damaged by right-wing propaganda would say it.

Spending on infrastructure creates jobs for contractors. Many of these contractors work primarily with private sector clients. These are not "government jobs".

Spending on research grants creates jobs at private universities and laboratories, including major corporations that apply for grants. These are not government jobs.

Both government jobs and private sector jobs pay what grown-ups call "salaries". People who receive salaries spend their money on housing, food, entertainment, and consumer goods which are made, warehoused, and sold by other people. More spending in these parts of the economy means more jobs.

Posted by: a_lafollette | March 4, 2010 4:16 PM | Report abuse

$15 billion? This is a joke. Obama gave the UAW $25 billion of taxpayer money in the auto bailout. I guess we can see the Democrat priorites in action here. Political pay back over jobs.

Posted by: jdonner2 | March 4, 2010 1:55 PM | Report abuse
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Pretty mush every Republican voted no on this. Even though it is not enough, it is something. Where are the priorities for the Republican party?

Posted by: ai3di | March 4, 2010 4:13 PM | Report abuse

I would like to know why and how these stinking politicians can bring in 85,000 foreign tech workers EVERY YEAR thru the H1-B program to displace American workers and still act as if they cared...

Posted by: jb5555 | March 4, 2010 2:14 PM | Report abuse
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750,000 jobs in the engineering, financial, and health care fields right now, you only need to have a high education in math and science. Since Americans rank 34th in those areas, Sorta have to go across seas to find people who can do the job. While most countries children feel blessed to have a school to go to and work hard for their belongings, in America, children hate school but also feel like they are entitled to have everything for doing nothing. Sorta sad.

Posted by: ai3di | March 4, 2010 4:11 PM | Report abuse

I agree with the Republican side that it is not enough and will not create as many jobs as people would want.
I laugh at the Democratic side complaining that it is too much tax cuts and not enough spending when everyone knows that the Government can't spend money to create jobs unless they are Government jobs.
Even though it is not enough, it is something, and unless there is something in the bill that would harm us (like that has really ever stopped bills from getting passed anyways) I don't see why any of them would vote against it. I think all those who voted against it should be listed so I know who not to vote for ever again.

Posted by: ai3di | March 4, 2010 4:04 PM | Report abuse

This bill does not require employers to use E-verify to check for legal status to work in the United States. It would,thus, allow employers get benefits and tax credits for hiring illegal aliens instead of American workers.

While one clause in the bill seems to require checking of new-hires' IDs, it's just misleading window dressing without the requirement to use E-verify which is currently the most positive practical way to assure legal status. The legislators know that the bogus clause is useless since there is a whole industry of forgers who produce fake social security cards, green cards, visas, and other "identification."

Ask your representatives and senators who voted for this bill why they didn't insist on including E-verify instead of a bogus clause that would allow employers tax breaks and other benefits for hiring illegal aliens.

Posted by: quobist | March 4, 2010 4:02 PM | Report abuse

Let's see how Uncle Obama and the Democrats will use this vehicle to further screw minorities and the middle-class, so they can continue to enrich their rich benefactors. Oh yeah – the Congressional Black Caucus (CBC) is a completely useless self-serving organization and needs to be disbanded.

Posted by: question-guy | March 4, 2010 3:51 PM | Report abuse

15 Billion that goes to banks, federal jobs, and increases our deficit and debt.

NONE OF THIS MONEY EVER FUNDS REAL JOBS.

Posted by: easttxisfreaky | March 4, 2010 3:49 PM | Report abuse

Better do your research ... The employers are overseas and unless you go to China and work 16 hrs a day in bad conditions and less than a dollar an hr. ... you will still be unemployed.

Posted by: noHUCKABEEnoVOTE | March 4, 2010 3:48 PM | Report abuse

Maybe Scott Brown is really a Democrat in disguise - the payroll tax is the most regressive tax in the Federal system, and any steps to eliminate it should be supported by liberals - yes, it will add to the deficit, but Democrats should he addressing that by taxing those earning over $250,000, foreign corporate earnings, energy consumption, and carbon emissions.

Posted by: SamBleicher | March 4, 2010 3:35 PM | Report abuse

DwightCollins wrote>>>whats obama doing with the billions left over from the stimulis...

They funds have been appropriated, but not yet spent.
btw - your racism is showing.

Posted by: angie12106 | March 4, 2010 3:18 PM | Report abuse

Republicans ALWAYS demand tax cuts "across the board" - because, you know, the Wealthy can't afford to buy milk and bread without those tax cuts.
And now Scott Brown is demanding payroll tax cuts "across the board" - which leads to a HIGHER deficit!


Posted by: angie12106 | March 4, 2010 3:16 PM | Report abuse

All Republican posters in the forum on Bunning's antics were screaming in his support over spending an exorbitent $10 billion dollars. Now they're screaming that $15 billion is not enough. It's not about the amount. It's not about where the money is being spent. It's all about obstruction and trying to deny Obama and the Democrats any credit for accomplishing the country's business. Republicans know only one word, "NO." They will never put the good of the country before their party.

Posted by: Lefty_ | March 4, 2010 2:37 PM | Report abuse

A measly $15 billion job package in the face of the worst employment crisis in 80 years. This is depressing.

Posted by: Booyah5000 | March 4, 2010 2:20 PM | Report abuse

I would like to know why and how these stinking politicians can bring in 85,000 foreign tech workers EVERY YEAR thru the H1-B program to displace American workers and still act as if they cared...

Posted by: jb5555 | March 4, 2010 2:14 PM | Report abuse

$15 billion? This is a joke. Obama gave the UAW $25 billion of taxpayer money in the auto bailout. I guess we can see the Democrat priorites in action here. Political pay back over jobs.

Posted by: jdonner2 | March 4, 2010 1:55 PM | Report abuse

job bill....who's jobs...Gov. workers.??
Soc. Security..Politicians stole all our money and gave it away...Medicare..joke...needing Sup.Ins..joke..Costs..costs..costs..get rid of $40.00 asprin..$10,000 bottle of water..call me...
you Gov. people are all alike and not in the REAL world..bet you clowns can not get a REAL job..which is why your politicians..

Posted by: rw62827 | March 4, 2010 1:50 PM | Report abuse

this bill will do little...
obama is not serious about jobs...
whats obama doing with the billions left over from the stimulis...
is he using that money and passing it on to his bros in the hood...
is he showing preference to blacks over the rest of us...

Posted by: DwightCollins | March 4, 2010 1:15 PM | Report abuse

Unless Congress puts a stop to reign in doctor's costs Medicaid along with Medicare, and Social Security are going to bankrupt this Country.

Posted by: TabLUnoLCSWfromUtah | March 4, 2010 1:11 PM | Report abuse

You are confused.

A jobs bill would actually create jobs.

20-30 million Americans are desperately searching for employment.

This bill encourages job creation a year or two in the future.

The need is much more immediate.

Washington, how out of touch can you be?

Posted by: brng | March 4, 2010 1:09 PM | Report abuse

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