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Kucinich in Obama's crosshairs

Updated 7:14 p.m.

By Michael D. Shear and Peter Slevin
Air Force One took off from suburban Maryland today at 11:13 a.m. and landed 48 minutes later in Cleveland. 

For Rep. Dennis Kucinich (D-Ohio) -- who says he plans to vote no on the president's health-care bill -- it must have felt like a much longer flight.

Obama invited Kucinich and undecided Rep. Marcia Fudge (D-Ohio) to the ultimate pressure cooker as he tries to nail down a majority for his top domestic priority.

What was said at 35,000 feet is anyone's guess, and Kucinich is -- for once -- not talking. The president talked one on one with Kucinich aboard Air Force One on the flight, a White House spokesman said. But Obama's onetime presidential rival just smiled as he walked across the tarmac upon arrival in his home state.

"I'm looking forward to hearing what he has to say," Kucinich said. A spokesman in his D.C. office said the congressman was politely declining all requests for interviews today.

But there was a public hint of the kind of pressure he is under. When Obama introduced Kucinich at his rally in Strongsville, in the congressman's suburban Cleveland district, someone in the audience called out, "Vote yes."

Obama, not missing a beat, turned to his traveling partner. "Did you hear that, Dennis?" he asked.

Near the end of his speech, Obama said he had told Kucinich on the flight: "You know what? It's been such a long time since we made government on the side of ordinary working folks, where we did something for them that relieved some of their struggles."

Kucinich has said he plans to vote against the health-care legislation because it does not contain a public option. That unwavering stand has drawn the ire of other liberals, who have accused him of a Ralph Nader-esque approach to politics.

"It's not perfect," Daily Kos founder Markos Moulitsas said of the current health-care legislation in an appearance on MSNBC. "But it's a first step, and God knows it's taken us a long time to even get our toe in the door. ... If somebody like Kucinich wants to block that, I find that completely reprehensible."

Sen. Sherrod Brown (D-Ohio) flew back to Washington aboard Air Force One with Obama and several other lawmakers. He said Kucinich has been hearing the same message repeatedly.

"All of us -- the governor, the congressional delegation, the president -- are making clear to Dennis that we won't have another chance for a decade if this doesn't happen," Brown said, referring to Ohio Gov. Ted Strickland (D), a former member of Congress who was in the audience Monday.

Pressure on Kucinich, who favors a more aggressive health-care overhaul, is also coming from elsewhere, said Brown, a strong backer of the reform effort. He said his office has been flooded with letters, e-mail and telephone messages from Ohioans who have lost their insurance and want the Democratic-led Congress to act.

"Dennis," Brown said, "is getting those same calls and letters."

By Michael D. Shear and Peter Slevin  |  March 15, 2010; 6:32 PM ET
Categories:  44 The Obama Presidency , Health Care  
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TO:patriotgmalou

My youngest brother is an independent contractor and doesn't have the ability to pay for decent health care. He wants it, but can't afford the prices.

In the future we may not have ANY health care, economy, retirement or entitlements if we don't act quickly. Right NOW the US is close to BANKRUPT because it owes more than its citizens can pay. $356,000/taxpayer.

We have a choice of
1. "death by taxes" 35 years of taxes that are 400% what they are today
OR
2. Hyperinflation with the currency worth nothing,the middle class ruined because their savings are wiped out out and their retirement worthless, many people may go hungry, and the government will be totally helpless to help the individual.
or
3. A total lack of Federal Government at the local level as it was in the 1780s. No entitlements at all, no social security, welfare, medicare, medicaid, aid with building roads, maintenance of the infrastructure. Not even an army to respond to terrorists.

This month, I heard a Libian Jihadi leader who had been close to Al Quaeda founder say that he was NOT against the US because he saw what had seen how this 'jihad' had decimated their ranks.

We won't be ABLE to afford a military if we don't raise taxes and TOTALLY AVOID DEFICIT SPENDING ON PROGRAMS


Posted by: Casw | March 17, 2010 6:38 PM | Report abuse

Kucinich has caved to the "tyrant Obama"

Will you remove this page and stop threatening him now?

Posted by: corrections | March 17, 2010 5:10 PM | Report abuse

A better title... "Kuchinich Dangles By Ankles from Air-force One at 30,000 Feet"

Posted by: Duuuuh | March 17, 2010 8:51 AM | Report abuse

It seems to me Obama's promise to not campaign for those that vote 'no' on his healthcare bill is an incentive to vote 'no'.

Posted by: Ontheotherhand | March 16, 2010 4:01 PM | Report abuse

Of course he'll cave. You don't think a Democrat would actually stand by his stated principals do you?

Posted by: RobT1 | March 16, 2010 3:45 PM | Report abuse

if he caves he will be out of a job in november

Posted by: mcccmar | March 16, 2010 2:57 PM | Report abuse

if he caves he will be out of a job in november

Posted by: mcccmar | March 16, 2010 2:57 PM | Report abuse

Personally, I think Kuchinich is a lot smarter than to let himself get fasttalked by this snake oil salesman pretending to be a president.

Kuchinich would not go against his own principles!

He knows that his bill does not reduce costs for healthcare, will ultimately lead to worse healthcare for ALL Americans, and will lead to greater debt for the nation.

This is like agreeing to pay off the nation's American Express Bill with your grandchildrens' Mastercard. Spend now, feel good about it, pass the burden on to the next generation.

Posted by: joelevin | March 16, 2010 2:51 PM | Report abuse

When Obama "threatens" not to campaign for HCR opponents, does he not realize his record thus far? He is 0-3 at home (Virginia, NJ, Mass.), and 0-5 overall when you include the failed Olympic campaign and the Chinese climate slap down in Coppenhagen.

If I were a democrat opponent, I would be elated at this "threat." Hubris apparently make one blind.

Posted by: jpmzo | March 16, 2010 2:27 PM | Report abuse

Let me get this straight.....The House DemocRATS don't have the votes to pass this smelly pile of dung with a 51 vote majority, so now they are going to resort to trickery, smarmy "Slaughter House" Rules by "deeming" the Bill as "Passed" even though these cowardly village idiots will not put their names on this stinking Bill. They are SO finished!! This is the most CORRUPT administration and Congress in the history of our nation. Vote ALL these creeps OUT in 2010, 2012 and on until the stench is no longer wafting throughout the Halls of Congress!!!

Posted by: coffeenerves | March 16, 2010 2:23 PM | Report abuse

The little weasel sure is a cheap date. He sold out for a ride on AF-l. What a guy!

Posted by: coffeenerves | March 16, 2010 2:14 PM | Report abuse

Thanks to all those that voted for obama. You have taken part in the destruction of America. way to go!

Posted by: icdumbpeople | March 16, 2010 1:52 PM | Report abuse

"RUkidding0" very well written comment. Right on the money!

Posted by: icdumbpeople | March 16, 2010 1:47 PM | Report abuse

Dennis is probably asking for the same deal Nebraska wants, or even better, top the one for New Orleans. This is not politics, this is fleecing every working American.

Posted by: Marvin69 | March 16, 2010 1:37 PM | Report abuse

Mr. Less than 1%, Kucinich is a member of the jackass party, of course he will cave and then as a door prize he will have the Un-Credentialed show up to campaign for him....just how lucky can a lib get?

Desperate times call for desperate measures and if you as crooked as a dogs hind leg your desperate.

Posted by: ONTIME | March 16, 2010 1:33 PM | Report abuse

Mr. Less than 1%, Kucinich is a member of the jackass party, of course he will cave and then as a door prize he will have the Un-Credentialed show up to campaign for him....just how lucky can a lib get?

Desperate times call for desperate measures and if you as crooked as a dogs hind leg your desperate.

Posted by: ONTIME | March 16, 2010 1:32 PM | Report abuse

Upside for Kucinich, if he votes "No," Obama will stay away and not campaign for him.

Posted by: fallenstar2005 | March 16, 2010 1:22 PM | Report abuse

Will Dennis cave? A typically silly WaPo question. Jeez-Louise.

Posted by: lcary | March 16, 2010 1:20 PM | Report abuse

What bribe was he offered up there away from the reporters?

Or did Obama tell him the truth, that this is just a "first step", and the mess of 2000+ pages has all the foundations for complete takeover and socialized medicine?

Posted by: support6 | March 16, 2010 1:20 PM | Report abuse

Well one thing for sure.....if Dennis votes in favor of this sham, he is outta here. Thats a forgone conclusion. This is not a healthcare bill, it is a debauchery of our freedom and healthcare system. There is nothing wrong with our healthcare system, the problem is the cost of insurance. Tort reform and allowing carriers to sell across state lines will immediately fix that.

Here's the deal. This program is so ridiculous that it would be less expensive to actually just buy a health insurance policy for everyone that would actually benefit from this plan. If you do not believe me, do the actual math. Repeat-----it would be cheaper to just pay for an insurance plan for everyone who would actually benefit from this sham of a bill

Posted by: orbtrans | March 16, 2010 1:09 PM | Report abuse

Seriously? Dennis Kucinich? There is no way this guy will vote against his Democrat masters.

Posted by: TXFM | March 16, 2010 1:00 PM | Report abuse

Kucinich (D-Ohio) is a phony egomaniac.
He will cave and come out with a convolluted staement why!

Posted by: jpalm32 | March 16, 2010 12:46 PM | Report abuse

Well... we will see if Kucinich is a man of his principles shortly. Kucinich supporters swear by this wingnut... let us hope they are right.

Posted by: mplsinfo | March 16, 2010 12:45 PM | Report abuse

What is little Dennis's price?
We will find out.
Monica Lewinsky for Congress!

Posted by: RobCon | March 16, 2010 12:36 PM | Report abuse

POWER CORRUPTS … and we have the Democrats to thank for once again so clearly demonstrating the fact in less than a year in the putrid cesspool that of this administration and it’s arrogant super majority congress.

First to fall to corruption are the disingenuous promises of “transparency” that instantly blacken into closed, back room deals concluded to buy off undisclosed, powerful rent seekers in the middle of the night.

Once in power, campaign promises for the “ … most honest, most open and most ethical congress in history" are quickly demonstrated to be the lies they were as the most corrupt, most closed, and most unethical congress in history unfolds.

Promises of bipartisanship dissolve in the pragmatics of transforming America into the Euro-social-democratic state of the left’s wet dreams, ending in the wholesale exclusion of opposition of every kind, covered over with the cat litter of deceitful appearances preserved to trot out for photo ops designed for purely partisan political gain.

Granted power, the hubris of ideology soon betrays even it’s own feel good rhetoric until only the vile corruption of bastardized state run programs remains.

Finally, the arrogance of power leads it’s holders to fully believe that they know what is best for everyone in America, whether the manipulated and controlled realize it or not, whether they rebel as in the Massachusetts Massacre or not, whether their seething rage portends massive losses to the party in power in November elections or not.

Like fire, once unleashed, the arrogance of power corrupts or destroys everything it touches.

Posted by: RUKidding0 | March 16, 2010 12:14 PM | Report abuse

OF COURSE....he will vote YES....

This wacko is a lib's lib.....no way he'll let even a "watered down" government takeover of this magnatude go un-passed....


...watta stupid question

Posted by: fenderuss | March 16, 2010 12:09 PM | Report abuse

What keeps getting ignored (purposefully) by the press, is that Denis made his compromises to begin with.

DK is a single payer supporter ie: Medicare part E. Everyone in no one out.

He was willing to compromise the perfect "single payer" for the good "public option, and allowing states to create their own universal health care systems if they so choose." He made his compromise and it got taken out of the bill by the democrats in an attempt to get GOP support, which they did not get.

Posted by: alex35332 | March 16, 2010 12:02 PM | Report abuse

Kucinich realizes that the current bill is not "Health Care Reform." It is simply Insurance Reform, and the insurance industry will be the main benefactor of the bill. Yes, more people will get access to insurance, but only a Single-Payer or Public Group Option will truly reform the system.

A Public Option at group rates with fair rate escalation (not double digit!) using several insurance vendors would inject a good amount of competition into the industry. Perhaps then the Health Insurance companies would spend their money on paying claims and providing good service rather than lobbying Congress and paying out huge bonuses to their executives.

Posted by: jgmann | March 16, 2010 11:55 AM | Report abuse

Question for the readers: When we see our military heroes in war, or see courageous volunteers go into disaster stricken nations and provide healthcare to the enemy or a human being of another country. Why is it that our eyes swell up with Patriotism? Why are the cost of two wars so necessary and the cost of your fellow American life is not. Why do we stand for our pledge and put our hand across our chest and over our hearts and cite the words “One nation under God…” Why is that?

God is for the one who tries and gets Left out and he is also for the one who takes a stand for what’s Right.

Posted by: Goleftstopatred | March 16, 2010 11:51 AM | Report abuse

All of this is so much tripe. Look at the polls, the majority in this country don't want the bill passed. In a representative democratic republic, the representatives are SUPPOSED to vote as their constituents direct them to, not for their own agenda, and definitely not because they "know what's good for us". But that's not a concern to this congress, senate and administration. Socialized medicine doesn't work, just look at the track record. Instead we need cost cutting reforms, not more big government spending that they're not truly constitutionally authorized to approve.

Posted by: deanothewiseman | March 16, 2010 11:48 AM | Report abuse

What gives this government the right to distribute the income of hard working Americans to pay for a flawed bill in healthcare expansion and extorsion. This is not a reform bill!! Health care is not a right and if you see this a must then pay for it like we all do. Wirk a second and job if need be. Get rid of your monthly cable bill and put it toward your healthcare. Why should I pay for yours when I still have to pay for my and my famlies insurance. Health care is not a right, you think it is... show me where it says so in the constitution. If this bill is all that critical then why are we having to pay for it immediately when it doesn't take effect until 4 years from now. Don't fall for Obama's socialist agenda!!

Posted by: smithmdlt | March 16, 2010 11:45 AM | Report abuse

Kucinich would be crazy to sabotage some reform for some pie-in-the sky dream that would never get passed by Congress. He'd rather have nothing-- what we have today is a disgrace. And my earlier joke about putting hamburger meat in his vegan food if he voted no was censored. I must have croseed a line somewhere, Big Brother. Oh welll...

Posted by: alarico | March 16, 2010 11:44 AM | Report abuse

The only racism on these boards is that from the Obama trolls who claim that any disagreement with "The One" is based on his skin color. That's racist to its core.

Posted by: Topekan | March 16, 2010 11:40 AM | Report abuse

To all the freeloaders that support this bill I say crawl back into your meger existence...folks this bill does nothing but tax all teh working people (not rich) to pay for services of the drug dealers and other leeches in the inner city

Posted by: phillysmart | March 16, 2010 11:39 AM | Report abuse

For ordinary Folks? heck he wants the ordinary folks to pay for the leeches...this man as president has a distorted view of our country...this bill hurts ordinary folks which I categorize as people who work for a living

Posted by: phillysmart | March 16, 2010 11:32 AM | Report abuse

This article is such a one sided propaganda hack job you would think Obama (his real name is Barry Soetoro) wrote it himself.

Kucinich is against the fact that the "bill" will force people to buy health insurance which only makes healthcare more expensive. The government legalized insurance and healthcare monopolies and that is why they are making hundreds of billions off the misery of the peopple at the same time the AMA and FDA are suppressing cures that only cost pennies.

Kucinish is no idiot and is not selling health insurance, he want single payer or at least a public option.

DO NOT SELL US OUT DENNIS! I have shook you hand many times and worked on your campaigns in the past. Stick to your guns the way you did with the electric company. That is why you have the job now.

Posted by: DumpDC | March 16, 2010 11:28 AM | Report abuse

Crosshairs? Are you threatening the Congressman you sick freaks??? Newspapers are supposed to destroy politicians through headlines, not actual threats.

Posted by: corrections | March 16, 2010 11:26 AM | Report abuse

Dennis Kucinich has integrity and has not constantly changed his mind like Mr Change...Obama. Mr change seemed like an empty shirt during the debates and he looks just the same now. Dennis knows what the people should have and has integrity. Dennis has also not sold out!!!! He is sticking to his guns and now the pressure is on..from the insurance companies...from Obama. This is what is happening. This country has been sidetracked so many times by special interest groups and thinktanks....we cant see reality any more. America the Land Of Corruption and Selfishness!!! Makes me ashamed. There is always plenty of money for war and foreign aid but when it comes to helping our own citizens ...we cant afford it. And then the detractors come in and confuse the issues to distract and divide. Yes they know what they are doing and it is a proven technique and it works every time because people are sheep. Other countries in the world have figured the heathcare problem out...but not us here in the land of the Duped and the Slave...not the Free and the Brave!! Corporations and profiteers run the country not us.

Posted by: rcoones | March 16, 2010 11:26 AM | Report abuse

The one thing that is absolutely stunning about the Obama Administration is the lack of integrity and ethics...appallingly so.

Bribes, blackmail, extortion, lying...whatever it takes to get what THEY want and not what US Citizens want. Why is this health bill passage such an "emergency" when it does not take into effect until 2014? What is about this bill...a hidden earmark that makes it so crucial?
Obama, Pelosi, and Reid will go down in history as the most nefarious politicians this country has ever had.
As far as Kucinich...does he have a backbone to go against Obama? Does any democrat have a backbone to go against this Bill and follow the demands of the US citizens that elected them into office? It takes integrity, and so far the democrats haven't shown any.

Posted by: ward5354 | March 16, 2010 11:16 AM | Report abuse

Nobody is denied health care in this country. It's just who pay's for it that we're arguing about. I feel sorry for those who have fallen into the trap of "health care is a right". Anybody who knows anything at all about gov.t run healthcare knows the Medicaid denies legitimate claims all the time. We're all being conned, lied to and for what. The chimera that Daddy/Mommy gov.t will come along and take care of you? In the end not a single gov.t employee will be required to be on the plan we're all put on. Register Republican, Libertarian, see how fast you go to the back of the healthcare line. Have your own insurance right now? See how long it takes before the gov.t runs them out of business and oh by the way all those jobs at those mean old insurance companies go away to.

Who are you going to sue when the gov.t says you're too old for an operation?

Who are you gount to sue when the gov.t says you have to buy their plan or go to jail?

Posted by: satcal0 | March 16, 2010 11:13 AM | Report abuse

paul65 | March 15, 2010 7:02 PM
I will donate up to the federal limit to the campaign of any Democrat and Republican who opposes Kucinich in his primary and general election if Kucinich votes no on the current health bill.
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I, and a few of my friends, will donate up to the federal limit to the campaign of Kucinich if he votes NO on the current health bill. I am a Libertarian but would promote his campaign on the basis of voting to NOT advance a bad bill.

Posted by: williambaker1 | March 16, 2010 10:49 AM | Report abuse

"Why are profits suddenly a bad thing?"

When making profits out of human misery - that's when.

Does your Police dept. turn a profit? The Fire Dept.? Army, Navy, Airforce? CPC? Medicare? Medicaid? Are they 'socialist'?

The civilised world long ago realised that health care was a right, not a profit opportunity. It also realised that health security was a fundamental pillar of the any advanced economy (because most of the civilised world spends half as much on health, whilst getting a better outcome).

Posted by: strum | March 16, 2010 10:44 AM | Report abuse

if he caves it will be because he was NEVER sincere in standing on principle in the first place - and by the way - BUSH IS A PRIVATE CITIZEN - obama can do or change anything he wants to - SO GET ANOTHER GRIPE

Posted by: mcccmar | March 16, 2010 10:37 AM | Report abuse

The fact that we are in the depths of near depression NOW, is because it took several
years for the BUSHY policies, which America did not want, to take affect. The
results do not happen overnight, no matter what the policy is. It will indeed take 3-4 years for changes to bring relief, but
if we do nothing now, as the repukicans insist, the quagmire of neglect will
plunge us into unspeakable consequences.
We must start now.

Posted by: patriotgmalou | March 16, 2010 10:29 AM | Report abuse

Only a moron or a far left zealot, like the rabid idealogues who control the National Democrat Party, could fail to see why state after state after state legislature is turning GOP.

It's the executive and legislative branches of the federal government stupid! "Elections have consequences," Obama supporters say - and rightly so.

But there is a ground swell out there that in the long run will bring a mightier consequence. What the current Congressional leadership has in mind to Rahm Obama healthcare that the electorate doesn't want up our collective minds may well turn out to be the fait accompli.

Posted by: mranchor | March 16, 2010 10:17 AM | Report abuse

Wow! Lots of green toothed, Jesus-freak, redneck Repugs denouncing the President. Pure racism! I hope he serves two terms and really breaks the hearts of the warmongering, race-baiting losers!

They never complain when Social Security trust funds and MediCare money is siphoned off to fund sending the underclass off to die in worthless wars. Worthless except to make the rich richer selling defective equipment to the military and other such schemes.

No more World Policeman! No more wars to prop up Israel! Care for our own should be the watchword! And it will be!

Posted by: mosthind | March 16, 2010 10:16 AM | Report abuse


Sounds Familiar...

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Totalitarian regimes or movements maintain themselves in political power by means of an official all-embracing ideology and propaganda disseminated through the state-controlled mass media, a single party that controls the state, personality cults, control over the economy, regulation and restriction of free discussion and criticism, the use of mass surveillance, and widespread use of state terrorism.

Posted by: jas7751 | March 16, 2010 10:12 AM | Report abuse

If that little weasle, "Denis the Meanece" caves in and lets Oboma bully him into a yes vote, we the people of Ohio shoud make sure he does not receive even one vote out of this state, next time he runs. How the heck did he get into office in the first place, he is such an embarasemt to this state to begin with.

Posted by: smokey447 | March 16, 2010 10:11 AM | Report abuse

Judy-in-TX-nice to find someone on the same wave length I am. kwijibi posted last night that after I criticized the spiteful
posts on this board that he didn't believe me. But, he or she needs to understand, that I meant their insults have no place in a forum like this. We are discussing a
life changing issue here, NOT their one-sided, SPITEFUL spittle. It is just one
useless drival after another. I am NOT
lying, and I believe you also. When the
crisis of this issue hits home, it gets you in the pit of your stomach. That is the difference between you and I, and those in this forum who can't get past the color of our President's skin, or the petty snarly smack. God Bless you and your
loved ones. I do not know yet how Becca is, hope to talk to Keith soon. God Bless
America, and in 231 days we will once again continue the process of eliminating these obstructionists from the picture, on
SWEET TUESDAY!!!!

Posted by: patriotgmalou | March 16, 2010 10:09 AM | Report abuse

Kucinich, like every other corrupt Democrat will be bought off by the non-American president. The entire Democrat party is a bunch of lying, corrupt, union loving socialists and Marxists that don't give a damn about anyone other than themselves and their wallets. They are turning this country into a third world nation that has lost all respectability and leadership.

Posted by: anchorman1 | March 16, 2010 9:52 AM | Report abuse

The cost of health care doing it Obama's way will bankrupt us all. Why doesn't the democratic party go after things to bring down cost. Why isn't the media screaming for tort reform and the ability to buy insurance accross state lines. The fixes are simple and do not require the government to insure us all. Let the government thru VA hospitals take care of those who are uninsured. If it is good enough for our vets it should be good enough for regular citizens.

Posted by: jcory | March 16, 2010 9:49 AM | Report abuse

Our Muslim President wants to collect TAXES for 4 YEARS, before 'His' Socialized Medicine Plan is implemented. I read your comments, here. I realize you're STUPID. I realize that you have FAITH in the 536 people in Washington, to take care of you from the Cradle to the Grave. Barney Frank. Maxine Waters. Chuck Schumer. Dennis Kucinich. Barak Hussein Obama. You believe that THIS TIME, it'll be different. THIS TIME, they'll keep their word.
Social Security. Medicare. Medicaid. The Post Office. The Public School System.
THIS TIME, it'll be different.
You can either have LIBERTY, or you can have SLAVERY.
Thomas Jefferson said that "Revolution should happen every 200 Years, or so." This PLAN will make it happen. I promise you.

Posted by: GoomyGommy | March 16, 2010 9:48 AM | Report abuse

who is more feeble minded? the clown who changes his core beliefs simply because he got to ride for free in a big pretty airplane..... or the clown who thought a free ride in a big pretty airplane would do it? Isn't there just one adult in DC anymore?

Posted by: hohumone | March 16, 2010 9:47 AM | Report abuse

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Posted by: NYC_CON | March 16, 2010 9:44 AM | Report abuse

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Posted by: NYC_CON | March 16, 2010 9:43 AM | Report abuse

"...we won't have another chance for a decade if this doesn't happen...."

Another misrepresentation.

Why?

Congress will be forced to fix Medicare in the next few years, before it goes bankrupt. That effort will not be a fraud, like the current proposal.

Posted by: hungrypirana | March 16, 2010 9:19 AM | Report abuse

The way to bring down prices is to increase competition between cross state providers. How am I going to afford being taxed for 4 years before actually receiving the "benefits" while still having to purchase insurance in the intervening years? This whole contraption will collapse under its own weight.

Posted by: troysmom | March 16, 2010 9:12 AM | Report abuse

Indoctrination.

Posted by: jimwa9z | March 16, 2010 9:05 AM | Report abuse

Obama(Barry Soetoro--your name): Please, even though you may not get it, understand that the problem with American Heath Care is--COST, COST, COST!!!

The problem is not that people do not have a policy. In fact, the problem may be in the policy altogether.

Your policy, in my opinion, seems aimed at taking people's houses, garnishing people's wages ... simply taking away America's constitutional rights.

Do you plan to force people to buy something that's overly priced? And, if not, do you plan to seen court action. Well, the poor, you cannot get anything from, save garnishing their taxes.

And to those who own homes, what will you do, place a lien against their homes. A good way to foist your agenda on America, eh?

First, you still haven't proved your constitution eligible to be the president. In fact, I'm wondering if you are even a US citizen. Perhaps by marriage, but did you fill out the proper paper work like other citizens are required. If not, ....

And please tell people your name, Barry Soetoro, or when you had it changed to Obama.

Indeed, America's heath care is in shambles, and your party is greatly responsible for the plight, and Republics too.

Let the American people dictate ho to fix the health care crises, huh?

And Barry, you lost your credibility with that hokey STIMULUS package. I'm still waiting on my check. He-he.

No, but you know that your cronies know how to better spend the tax payer's money better than they themselves. Sorry we're so dumb; you guy's so erudite.

How about let's start by ridding 80/20 policies, stop pre-existing condition descrimination, allow more competition in medicine, get rid of insurance deductibles, curb the high hospital cost, ambulance fees lowered, pass a law to; first, to make it against the law for hospitals to send data to credit reporting agencies until the government(or the market place--better) can get things under
control.

Wow! This may drive health insurance companies out of business. Yeppie! That's the answer to health care crises, for then would doctors charge people only what they can afford--and no more.

To this day, I've never witnessed a doctor on skid row.

Congress, Senate and ... quit trying to jerk the American people around, we've been jerked around long enough.

And please give America a public reading of your bill before you vote on it.

--American

Posted by: 24hourapartments | March 16, 2010 9:03 AM | Report abuse

Mr. Kucinich,I hope your a man of your word and vote against this Bill.

Posted by: XPIOLT | March 16, 2010 9:02 AM | Report abuse

After reading all the posts connectedto this article it is clear to me that someone did not do a very good job teaching you history. The idea of taxation without representation was a prime factor in the revolt leading up to the American Revoution. The Boston Tea party was a revolt on the added tax of tea, the tea was avail. but the people of the colonies did not feel they needed to pay the tax to a country that did not give them any say. This healtcare bill will destroy the paychecks of Americans, well those who earn a paycheck. The American people will pay for this healthcare overhaul for 4 years before any benifits are realized. Neal Boortz said it best yesterday: Would you lease a car for 10 years but be satisified driving it for 6. You see you will have to pay the added taxes for 4 full years with nothing to show for it except a decreased paycheck. Tax the people but give them nothing in return for 4 years. Yea that sound like a great idea. We can take the money and shuffle it into great projects like ACORN. Are the American people so stupid as not to see the writing on the wall. Healthcare will not be better, it will be worse. Please do not allow this to happen. Tell the money grabbers in Washington to stay the hell out of your wallets.

Posted by: redbird6 | March 16, 2010 8:52 AM | Report abuse

I have lived in NE Ohio my entire life, and Kuchinich is a left-wing nut job. His problem is the proposed bill is not progressive liberal enough! It doesn't go far enough to take away our personal liberties. This from a man who successfully got the Coast Guard to stop anti-terrorism training on Lake Erie because the lead bullets fired into the lake were "poisoning" the water supply. Y'know the same lead used by fisherman to weight their lines down (i.e., sinkers).

Posted by: LeboD | March 16, 2010 8:50 AM | Report abuse

I'd be suprised if this demoRAT didn't change his mind after a free ride on our dime on this so called president's best toy. This so called president never stays in his office and works. He's always flying around the country/world making Clinton look like a rookie. This clown in chief couldn't govern his way out of a wet paper bag. He and his ilk suck, and must be stopped before we look like France and Greece. He's the biggest fraud in history.

Posted by: rcasanova145 | March 16, 2010 8:49 AM | Report abuse

If a ride on Airforce One is all it takes to change Kuchinich's vote, he's not the principled person he tries to personify when appearing on TV and in interviews! We'll soon see just what he's made of.

Posted by: granny1 | March 16, 2010 8:42 AM | Report abuse

David Kucinich is not a great mind. He fails to realize that since the advent of the internet his people can't just do their stuff in the dark.

No, it's going to be far more than a decade, and next time something like this happens, none of you people will be there to play with us again.

Yup ~ life moves on ~ and lifespans are finite.

I'm guessing the next time so-called medical reform pops up it will have been CENTURIES since this clownshow had passed into a richly deserved total oblivion.

Posted by: muawiyah | March 16, 2010 8:34 AM | Report abuse

This isn't about re-election to Kucinich; it's about principle (Dennis has no opponent in the Democratic primary in a Democratic-leaning district). It should also be about principle to the rest of the Democrats in power, but they apparently have drunk the Kool-aid and are too crazy with power to see how they are shooting themselves in the behind in the eyes of the American voter. (Do they really think they are turning out more than their own choir at these staged events Obama is holding? C'mon! Typical Ohioans are hard at work or sleeping to go in for the night shift during daytime hours on a Monday. Get real!)

Posted by: Kathy8 | March 16, 2010 8:34 AM | Report abuse

"It's not perfect," Daily Kos founder Markos Moulitsas said of the current health-care legislation in an appearance on MSNBC. "But it's a first step, and God knows it's taken us a long time to even get our toe in the door. ... If somebody like Kucinich wants to block that, I find that completely reprehensible."

......Full disclosure...Daily KOS is a left-wing liberal/progressive propaganda outlet.......and everyone already knows that MSNBC is part of the Nazi Broadcasting Corporaton (NBC).......just an fyi........Full Disclosure

Posted by: allenridge | March 16, 2010 8:32 AM | Report abuse

Senator Bernie Sanders, the sole Democratic Socialist in Congress, voted yes for health reform (albeit after extracting an additional $10 billion for community health centers). I hope Mr. Kucinich follows his lead.

Posted by: weiwentg | March 16, 2010 8:32 AM | Report abuse

David Kucinich is not a great mind. He fails to realize that since the advent of the internet his people can't just do their stuff in the dark.

No, it's going to be far more than a decade, and next time something like this happens, none of you people will be there to play with us again.

Yup ~ life moves on ~ and lifespans are finite.

I'm guessing the next time so-called medical reform pops up it will have been CENTURIES since this clownshow had passed into a richly deserved total oblivion.

Posted by: muawiyah | March 16, 2010 8:30 AM | Report abuse

It's just a larger ponzi scheme. Such as social security and medicare. Social security and medicare are broke, so this health care bill will just keep these failing programs going for awhile longer.
Why the US wants to be like Europe is beyond any reasoning. Americans wanted to get rid of the oppressing government of England. These progressive/liberal politicians want government to be the answer for every problem citizens have.
The US and it's people are broke stop this health care bill !

Posted by: c_mcgurrin | March 16, 2010 8:23 AM | Report abuse

David Kucinich, the bravest man in DC, is one of the very few politicians in Washington fighting to make things right for the People! I have no doubt that Kucinich will do the right thing. The US voters should listen very closely to what he has to say, because he speaks truth.

Posted by: halifar59 | March 16, 2010 8:22 AM | Report abuse

I can see that the leftist bed-wetting do-gooders are out in force attesting that the GOP owns the insurance companies. Nothing could be further than the truth, but the leftists live in an alternate universe where lies are truth, up is down, and left is right. They are mentally ill. They think slavery is freedom, and government is God.

Posted by: RightStuff | March 16, 2010 8:04 AM | Report abuse

As soon as anyone writes that Bush lied about Iraq, I ignore any further ranting from that individual, because there is no longer any credibility. "Bush lied" comes from the extreme left media, and repeating that nonsense reflects a person who cannot think for himself. The entire UN, and virtually all of congress, including Democrats believed that Saddam still had WMD. Why do you think that Bush was so brilliant that he knew otherwise and lied about it? Go back to Huffington.

Posted by: JCIll | March 16, 2010 8:02 AM | Report abuse

Why does this Democratic Administration want to punish 270+ million for 30 million who are uninsured?? Let me answer that: It is to position all of the people where the government will be able to control your lives, plus collect a lot of money from each citizen.

Posted by: jamescnugent | March 16, 2010 7:59 AM | Report abuse

Stick to your principles, Dennis!

Obama is pressuring the wrong Democrats. He should have been pressuring people like Baucus & Nelson long ago. It's actually Obama who has few principles. Like Clinton, Obama's only real principle is personal political advancement.

This so-called health care reform is very similar to the prescription drug program put into effect by Bush II & the GOP. Insurance companies have been granted a status of middle man, thereby allowing them to skim off profits from the Medicare program while doing almost nothing to earn that money.

It's because of Obama himself, that his base is fractured. He is closely following the precedent put forth by Bush II & the GOP.

Posted by: book134 | March 16, 2010 7:54 AM | Report abuse

I think Sherrod is a liar, at the least, by ommission.

I live in NW OH where the local economy has been slammed by the collapse of Detroit's auto industry, but most people I know oppose Obamacare. Also, I've called his office several times in the last few weeks [on another matter] and have had absolutely no problem getting through. At the most, I waited maybe five minutes on hold.

So, I don't know who is doing all this "flooding his office" with support, or when they're doing it, but it hasn't been during regular Senate business hours.

Posted by: justluthien | March 16, 2010 7:49 AM | Report abuse

Obama definitely has an advantage over Kucinich with all the Big In$urance money. But Dennis Kucinich will always tower over and have the advantage over Obama when it comes to decency, concern for the middle class and honesty. Obama's claim that he "told" Kucinich "You know what? It's been such a long time since we made government on the side of ordinary working folks, where we did something for them that relieved some of their struggles." is sickening. What he has done and he knows it is screw the middle class into subservience to Big In$surance bit time and deprived Americans of the right to be free of the Insurance Co. chokehold.

Sherrod Brown should be ashamed. Instead of questioning Kucinich, he should be questioning Obama on behalf of his constituents about why Obama killed the public option and how much Obama got for the deal.

Posted by: ophelia3 | March 16, 2010 7:45 AM | Report abuse

The whole process to get this bill passed is so disgusting. Obama is playing mind games to these people by getting them on board the air force 1 like a captive audience. It surely will be an insult to their intelligence if this people are persuaded by Obama to do his favors.
i can't even look at this president, I can't stand hearing this speaking, so much double talk.
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DOUBLE TALK ?? How about the lies of "WMD's in Iraq" that caused so many American casualties ..did you feel the same way then ?

Posted by: RPLCO | March 16, 2010 7:41 AM | Report abuse

Why are profits suddenly a bad thing? Every business and industry in this country strives to make profits, right down to your local butcher or baker. America is a capitalist country which operates on a free market economy. The health care industry employs millions of American workers - good jobs at good wages. There is no need to abolish the foundational principle of free market with a government takeover - this is a philosophical shift toward socialism that will eventually erode our core American principles of liberty and self-determination. Government- run health care furthers the idea of creating a welfare state where the citizens rely on the government instead of on themselves.

Posted by: umpjim43 | March 16, 2010 6:40 AM | Report abuse

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Spoken like a true Repugnicant--and a shill-Profit from health care is by itself morally suspect, but abusive profits are much worse.There were millions of Americans employed in the crooked Wall street mortgage industry too and look where that got us in 2008. Americans need to find honest jobs that do no prey on people's health. The term "socialism" is a red herring like the Nazi party used the word "jew" in WW 2.

Posted by: RPLCO | March 16, 2010 7:32 AM | Report abuse

I disagree with Dennis K most of the time, but I respect the fact that he has the courage of his convictions. Hang in there Dennis, don't sell your soul for 30 pieces of silver or a plane ride with the liar in chief

Posted by: rolandov | March 16, 2010 7:31 AM | Report abuse

kucinich will cave quicker than a knats hic-up.

Posted by: 12thgenamerican | March 16, 2010 7:23 AM | Report abuse

Yea, that's right. The GOP is bought and paid for by the health insurance industry.

Obama received $20 million from healthcare industry in 2008 campaign:
http://rawstory.com/2010/01/obama-received-20-million-healthcare-industry-money-2008/

Sen. Rockefeller accepts donations from health insurance companies
http://sunshinereview.org/index.php/Sen._Rockefeller_accepts_donations_from_health_insurance_companies

Lawmakers Get One-Two Punch of Money From Health Industry Special Interests
http://www.opensecrets.org/news/2009/10/senate-finance-committee-membe.html

Yep, the GOP is bought and paid for by the health insurance companies.

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THE GOP IS THE HEALTH CARE INDUSTRY !!!

Posted by: RPLCO | March 16, 2010 7:21 AM | Report abuse

Yea, that's right. The GOP is bought and paid for by the health insurance industry.

Obama received $20 million from healthcare industry in 2008 campaign:
http://rawstory.com/2010/01/obama-received-20-million-healthcare-industry-money-2008/

Sen. Rockefeller accepts donations from health insurance companies
http://sunshinereview.org/index.php/Sen._Rockefeller_accepts_donations_from_health_insurance_companies

Lawmakers Get One-Two Punch of Money From Health Industry Special Interests
http://www.opensecrets.org/news/2009/10/senate-finance-committee-membe.html

Yep, the GOP is bought and paid for by the health insurance companies.

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THE GOP IS THE HEALTH CARE INDUSTRY !!!

Posted by: RPLCO | March 16, 2010 7:21 AM | Report abuse

PS: Kusinich(sp) is a joke, i call him Howdy doody! he is a snake, and is trying to cut a deal for himself , why else be on the plane, wait and see what comes out of this, you all will be sick to your stomachs.

Posted by: Bevus | March 16, 2010 7:16 AM | Report abuse

YOur all gov. sycophant idiots! who want this bill. The Gov. NEVER has provided anything at a lower cost or better service and quality, NEVER! anything they touch is a disaster when it comes to cost, and budget, politics, quality. on whatever basis you want to measure it. Why would you want to trust them with your LIFE?! they do not know what is in this, because it has not been written! obama says whatever you want to hear, he has no idea and he has no intent to make it better for you, he wants it better for him, a power grab! he is a pontificating potentate! he wants demon rats to throw themselves on their sword , but he himself is not! he wants the taxpayer and citizens of this country to do the same, we will all be walking dead with this thing, especially those over 60! believe him at your peril.

Posted by: Bevus | March 16, 2010 7:14 AM | Report abuse

Yea, that's right. The GOP is bought and paid for by the health insurance industry.

Obama received $20 million from healthcare industry in 2008 campaign:
http://rawstory.com/2010/01/obama-received-20-million-healthcare-industry-money-2008/

Sen. Rockefeller accepts donations from health insurance companies
http://sunshinereview.org/index.php/Sen._Rockefeller_accepts_donations_from_health_insurance_companies

Lawmakers Get One-Two Punch of Money From Health Industry Special Interests
http://www.opensecrets.org/news/2009/10/senate-finance-committee-membe.html

Yep, the GOP is bought and paid for by the health insurance companies. NOT.

Posted by: rnw1015632 | March 16, 2010 7:14 AM | Report abuse

welll Obama did it again: the presidentail strip of his jacket, the black preacher dialogue and deliver complete with his
hesitaing speech when he makes a point

eh eh .......it is canned now watch him at his next outing.

Posted by: JohnAdams1 | March 16, 2010 7:10 AM | Report abuse

Because you are unemployed is not a good reason to support this horrible bill. Times will change, but if this passes generations will be strapped with a huge bill and inferior medicine.
If the bill is so good why the bribes?
If 85% of us don't want this bill, but want real reform, why are they still trying to pass this? Ego?

Posted by: HonkersDD | March 16, 2010 7:02 AM | Report abuse

Don't cave, Dennis. Don't cave to Obama and cohorts the way they caved to the corporations and conservatives. There will be people who blame you for the failure of this bill. You are not the reason this bill is likely to fail; it's the fault of Obama, who failed to keep his promises to us.

Posted by: farhorizons | March 16, 2010 6:58 AM | Report abuse

Why are profits suddenly a bad thing? Every business and industry in this country strives to make profits, right down to your local butcher or baker. America is a capitalist country which operates on a free market economy. The health care industry employs millions of American workers - good jobs at good wages. There is no need to abolish the foundational principle of free market with a government takeover - this is a philosophical shift toward socialism that will eventually erode our core American principles of liberty and self-determination. Government- run health care furthers the idea of creating a welfare state where the citizens rely on the government instead of on themselves.

Posted by: umpjim43 | March 16, 2010 6:40 AM | Report abuse

carleen09
"So, as Comrade Dictator The Kenya Teleprompter Reader is prone to say, "Let me be clear here,"anyone that votes for Obamacare,and/or Illegal Alien Amnesty will be out of work and no longer a US Senator or Member of Congress after the 2010 Elections and 2012"

DC Sage 1 wrote: Yes the racist hatemongers and white supremacists have spoken. The first African American President of the United States must be from an African country and not America because African Americans could never be as as accomplished as President Obama.

Racist hatemongers are also fond of trafficking in the racist teleprompter lie because no African American is supposed to be able to speak as well as President Obama so he must be reading it from a teleprpmpter. Racist teleprompter liars. They know he doesn't need a teleprompter to speak but they are hateful racist bigots and they don't care about racist lies.

The racists continue to warn all who will listen how they will go to the polls as a mighty locksteppping force of racist bigots, Klansmen, Tea-Baggers and racist birthers with hatred and bile dripping from bloody gums who will vote to punish all who dare resist them in the 2010 elections.

We hear the rants of the racist hatemongers loud and clear. We will see you at the polls once again.

Posted by: DCSage | March 16, 2010 6:37 AM | Report abuse

Wow!! Reading all the comments further confirms that Americans really are misinformed. When will you people stop being fooled by the media? So sad that people oppose things just because they are done by the other side. Understand the issues before you criticize. Kucinich wants a public option. I'd be willing to bet that (most) of you don't even know what the public option is. When will you people understand that there should be a healthcare system that does not include the word "Profit"...Insurance companies should be demonized...republicans are ALL bought by these insurance companies. So of course they will fight to save the Insurance companies "profits"...they are successfully influencing people into rooting against their own best interest. When will you realize that they are only here to play politics and get rich. They don't give a damn about the people. There history proves it. 100% of the Republicans are bought and payed for and they're are about 65% of Democrats that are bought and payed for. Dennis Kucinich is not one of them. He doesn't have millions in pockets from insurance companies and he won't receive millions by standing up for Americans. Which proves he has a rareness about him. A politician that actually represents the People of The United States Of America!! The Constitution read "We the People" not Me the people. Kucinich is a hero and always has been. You right wingers applaud him just because he is opposing Obama. Progressives applaud him because they understand that the bill does not include the public option. I hope everyone on here receives care when they are sick or injured. I don't mind spending my money on "YOU"

Posted by: thebiggere9 | March 16, 2010 5:31 AM | Report abuse

Dropping out of high school, dropping out of society has become an epidemic in this country. So who is going to provide subsidized health care to them if not you? Don't be greedy, do as Obama demands and distribute your wealth to those that don't want to work.

Posted by: hunter340 | March 16, 2010 4:36 AM | Report abuse

For all his so-callled idealism, Kucininch is an effing moron.

Posted by: FilmMD | March 16, 2010 4:22 AM | Report abuse

patriotgmalou (March 15, 2010 10:58 PM):
I too am praying for God's guidance with Congress.
As you so eloquently put it:
"May God speak to those making this awesome decision, and for Becca's and Keith's, and their kid's sake, and every other American in need of compassion, my prayer is that they listen to GOD'S WHISPERS, and pass this bill."
==
Last Sunday morning, my husband and I had breakfast with his sister.
Both she and her husband have had grave illnesses.
They are both in their mid-50s.
As she talked about her vain wish that she could retire from her job (she's been working steadily since she was about 20 years old), she explained she didn't dare do so because they would lose their health care, which is dependent upon her employment.
He is a self-employed independent contractor and can't afford the type of insurance they would have to purchase, which is triple or more in cost over what they have now through her employer.
She is recuperating from having 2 spinal fusions.
He has a debilitating disease for which he is into a 40-week chemotherapy treatment.
As tears welled up in her eyes, I told her, "We're working as hard as we can to get this health-care bill passed, so you can get insurance, if either of you lose your job."
As my husband is a military retiree, we have excellent insurance -- the true private option once touted as the solution, but rejected because of pressure from the insurance companies.
Sad to say, we can't share our insurance coverage with them.
Now I find out "preexisting conditions" won't take effect for 4 years?
I wonder how many Americans will suffer and die in the interim?
We have got to get this started now, flaws and all.
Improvements will pour in, once enacted.
This legislation has been up against powerful financial forces addicted to the gravy train.
It's time we brought that train into the station and unloaded it.

Posted by: Judy-in-TX | March 16, 2010 3:32 AM | Report abuse

The whole process to get this bill passed is so disgusting. Obama is playing mind games to these people by getting them on board the air force 1 like a captive audience. It surely will be an insult to their intelligence if this people are persuaded by Obama to do his favors.
i can't even look at this president, I can't stand hearing this speaking, so much double talk.

Posted by: amorsolo | March 16, 2010 3:24 AM | Report abuse

This debacle of a bill makes zero sense. Which explains why Obama is in full "Alinsky" mode right now. He can't argue for this with logic and reason. He has to demonize an entire industry (insurance), mis-characterize the legislation in congress (obviously Obama hasn't read it), and then use Chicago thug tactics to intimidate members who (correctly) plan to vote against it. The problem here is Obama, Pelosi, and Reid and their arrogance. They are NOT listening to the people. WE don't want this garbage. We want "reform", not a 2000+ page monstrosity which is nothing more than government mandates and higher taxes. The core cost issues associated with health care are totally ignored in this bill.

The sooner we are rid of the arrogant novice wanna-be president, the better off our nation will be. I just hope we can survive until January of 2013.

Posted by: MikefromSaline | March 16, 2010 2:17 AM | Report abuse

Kucinich is smarter than Obama on this issue.

Obama is playing the political model, where Kucinich is thinking about the actual results of the legislation.

Obama promise less expensive health care, but instead is advocating legislation that does very little to contain costs.

Posted by: postfan1 | March 16, 2010 2:09 AM | Report abuse

I have no health insurance because I have been unemployed since August, 2009. I do not want the health care bill to pass because I care more about whether my children have an America with any economic prosperity left than I do about getting government-run health care when I don't have a job. I hope Kuchinich sticks to his position but for completely different reasons.

Posted by: sutmls | March 16, 2010 1:47 AM | Report abuse

"All of us -- the governor, the congressional delegation, the president -- are making clear to Dennis that we won't have another chance for a decade if this doesn't happen," Brown said, referring to Ohio Gov. Ted Strickland (D), a former member of Congress who was in the audience Monday

Mr. Kucinich--Of course you have another chance! Further, it doesn't have to be 10 years. You could re-vamp this thing starting tomorrow. Stick with your no vote. You are doing the right thing and people respect you for it.

Posted by: msc62 | March 16, 2010 1:29 AM | Report abuse

Kucinich will cave. Trouble is he may be getting letters and phone calls to say yes to the health-con, but that percentage is from the minority in America. The rest of us know darn well this is a hideous bill.

Posted by: grndmrbby | March 16, 2010 1:15 AM | Report abuse

So, as Comrade Dictator The Kenya Teleprompter Reader is prone to say, "Let me be clear here,"anyone that votes for
Obamacare,and/or Illegal Alien Amnesty will
be out of work and no longer a US Senator
or Member of Congress after the 2010 Elections and 2012 Election that will also
see Chairman Leader Barack Obama being Impeached and sent off to jail for treason
right along with Botox Nancy Pelosi,Steny
Slimeball Hoyer and Dingy Harry Reid. Vote
these Democrat Creeps Out! Impeach Obama!

Posted by: carleen09 | March 16, 2010 1:02 AM | Report abuse

My biggest concern is what Obama is giving to Luis Gutierrez.
Gutierrez has said that Obama promised him immigration reform, i.e. amnesty for illegals, or similar, healthcare, right to bring remaining family members to U.S., etc.)

Rep. Gutierrez has been holding out but has huge leverage because of the Hispanic votes he can deliver for Obama.
He is asking for all kinds of generosity for illegals while U.S. citizens are without jobs and Obama listens.
Unbelievable.

Posted by: pjcafe | March 16, 2010 12:34 AM | Report abuse

Obama invited Kucinich and undecided Rep. Marcia Fudge (D-Ohio) to the ultimate pressure cooker as he tries to nail down a majority for his top domestic priority.
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"...top domestic priority." Obonehead realizes that feeding scraps to the masses in the form of band-aids is far more important than private sector jobs. This is pay-back to the unions on the backs of the taxpayers. Ever hear of someone making $88k a year who is poor and needs a subsidy?

The asy and simple way is to pass what is palatable to both sides:

1. Health high-risk pools, for those with pre-exisiting conditions.
2. Tax deductability for health insurance.
3. Interstate sales of health insurance.
4. Tax-Free Health Savings Accounts.
5. Expansion of the Medical Flexible Spending Accounts.

We need to bring personal responsibility back into the system. Government handouts is not the answer.

I do not believe that dependent should be covered until they are 26. I can see 24 years of age, while they full-time students.

I believe that denials of pre-existing conditions are in fact, a risk mitigation tool, in which the insurance companies will either have to charge a higher premium to the individual or charge everybdoy a higher rate to cover the failings of another. Charging me more is like charging me a rate of someone with 3 DUI's and 5 at-fault accidents, because some bonhead is in my "pool," even though the rest of us have clean records.

This is why Obonehead appeals to so many morons, fools and idiots. Obon-bon-head exploits "fairness" over personal responsibility.

Maybe one day, he'll get the message.

Posted by: Computer_Forensics_Expert_Computer_Expert_Witness | March 16, 2010 12:26 AM | Report abuse

For God sakes he's a Democrat people, you know he will vote for it, he just one of hundreds of Democrats in our congress and senate with no morals, soul, convictions. Heck just wave a 10 dollar bill around the trailer parks where democrat John Edwards gets his women and there will be enough of them crawl out from the trailer and vote for it.Dennis is no different than any of the rest of the Democrats, he can be bought.

Posted by: stt672 | March 16, 2010 12:26 AM | Report abuse

All these weasels care about is getting re-elected. If it wasn't an election year Obama would have no problem getting these moron Congressmen to go against the people's wishes.

Check out this hilarious parody on Obamacare & Socialism: http://www.narf.tv/?p=83

Posted by: buckrol | March 16, 2010 12:24 AM | Report abuse

This article was pulled from the "Investor's Business Daily." It provides some very interesting statistics from a survey by the United Nations International Health Organization.

Percentage of men and women who survived a cancer five years after diagnosis:

U..S. 65%
England 46%
Canada 42%

Percentage of patients diagnosed with diabetes who received treatment within six months:

U.S. 93%
England 15%
Canada 43%

Percentage of seniors needing hip replacement who received it within six months:

U.S. 90%
England 15%
Canada 43%

Percentage referred to a medical specialist who see one within one month:

U.S. 77%
England 40%
Canada 43%

Number of MRI scanners (a prime diagnostic tool) per million people:

U.S. 71
England 14
Canada 18

Percentage of seniors (65+), with low income, who say they are in "excellent health":

U.S. 12%
England 2%
Canada 6%

I don't know about you, but I don't want "Universal Healthcare" comparable to England or Canada .

Moreover, it was Sen. Harry Reid who said, "Elderly Americans must learn to accept the inconveniences of old age."

Posted by: GordonShumway | March 16, 2010 12:17 AM | Report abuse

It's certainly amusing to see RealTexan1, who no doubt believes that President Obama is not only a tyrant but also a socialist, communist, and fascist (thanks Jonah Golberg), calling Kucinich brave and arguing that he probably should have been our president.

Posted by: douglaslbarber | March 16, 2010 12:16 AM | Report abuse

And what will Obama do for Ohio and Cleveland, specifically? He sure is quick to help his Chicago buddies.

How about saving some of the manufacturing jobs that are going to China and Mexico?

Posted by: comaradan | March 16, 2010 12:14 AM | Report abuse

For insight of the opposition to "Obamacare"... search google videos or youtube for "Congressman Mike Rogers' opening statement on Health Care reform" Great insight on what the debate is about inside the ropes. Great points and thank goodness for representatives like Mike Rogers. Take a look if you like.

Posted by: bulldog49684 | March 16, 2010 12:14 AM | Report abuse

patriotgmalou- i offer my deepest condolences to your friend and pray for her health and safety. unfortunately, too many people in the world are beset on all sides by trials, sorrow, and hardships. i hope you will use your concern to turn to your community and the great individuals of our nation for aid, for in this time we should not be pessimistic think that only a congressional bill can relieve our nation's suffering. i must recall a quote which will most likely not provide you with any immediate relief but one that i feel is relevant nonetheless:

"The friendliness and charity of our countrymen can always be relied upon to relieve their fellow-citizens in misfortune[...]Federal aid in such cases encourages the expectation of paternal care on the part of the Government and weakens the sturdiness of our national character, while it prevents the indulgence among out people of that kindly sentiment and conduct which strengthens the bonds of a common brotherhood." -Grover Cleveland

Posted by: wp9090 | March 15, 2010 11:50 PM | Report abuse

I'm sorry sir, but based on your rant " NOT YOUR BLATHERING INSULTS, AND RACIST SLURS, AND DAMN REPUKICAN RHETORIC, AND HATEFUL UNCARING RANTS", I don't believe your story.

Posted by: covelomax | March 15, 2010 11:47 PM | Report abuse

Barack Hussein Obama is a corrupt Chicago Affirmative Action product who studied under radical communist Saul Alinsky and became his disciple. Neither he nor his ugly wife love this country.

Posted by: jhr1 | March 15, 2010 11:43 PM | Report abuse

I like Dennis. Hopefully he sticks to his convictions and doesn't hamstring Ohioans with Barry's boondoggle.

Posted by: schratboy | March 15, 2010 11:41 PM | Report abuse

What has Obama done for Kucinich, or for those who support Kucinich?

war? bailouts for the rich? gitmo? fisa? torture?

Kucinich for President NOW.

Posted by: forestbloggod | March 15, 2010 11:41 PM | Report abuse

I bet Obama would't even let Kucinich use the restroom.

Posted by: miker5 | March 15, 2010 11:39 PM | Report abuse

Dennis Kucinich is no hero. He's just being the same guy he's been throughout his career. I admire his resolve.

Imagine how shameful it would be for him to compromise away a lifetime of conviction, all in the promise "you'll get it later." Just like the health care bill itself, if it doesn't happen now it won't happen again. For one thing, the American people can barely stand for this watered-down but still budget-busting monstrosity. The risky proposed health care scheme is madness and the people know it.

Rep. Kucinich, it's now or never. The inevitable GOP sweep in November won't work in your favor so stand firm now.

Posted by: kwijibo | March 15, 2010 11:38 PM | Report abuse

Is anybody on this post even aware of what is in the bills? I'm tired of hearing that we have to pass this mess of a bill, just because there is no other choice. If it was a good bill, there wouldn't be any problem attracting enough support from both sides to pass it. The fact there isn't is proof enough of what a terrible bill it is and we should not pass it. I can support change for health care, just not this change. To all of those who think they will get health care when this passes, guess what, you start paying taxes right away but won't get health care for another 3 years, or at least until Obama is out of the White House when everyone will finally realize what a ripoff it is when they start receiving the care that doesn't live up to the advertisement. Yes you really do get nothing for nothing.

Posted by: dschwarpa | March 15, 2010 11:36 PM | Report abuse

patriotgmalou
Were you born a victim or have you learned it over the years.

Posted by: mainwolf | March 15, 2010 11:30 PM | Report abuse

Is Dennis the kind of guy that will change his vote for an airplane ride? Say it ain't so!

Posted by: Tupac_Goldstein | March 15, 2010 11:28 PM | Report abuse

"NOT YOUR BLATHERING INSULTS, AND RACIST SLURS, AND DAMN REPUKICAN RHETORIC, AND HATEFUL UNCARING RANTS."

Sorry to hear your friend is ill. Sorry to see you so filled with hate. I mean it. You had me until you said that. You're as bad as they are, maybe worse, because you seem to know better.

Posted by: kwijibo | March 15, 2010 11:28 PM | Report abuse

A young mother of 3, who, with her husband own a small business in our little Iowa community, was
rushed to the ER this evening, after suffering an attack of not being able to breathe. They work long hours, and have invested their young lives in this business. She had a similar attack about a
week ago, and a local volunteer fireman/
paramedic was present. He took her next door to the firehouse, and took her BP and it was 178 over 110, she went home early and did not return to work until today. When she collapsed this evening, on the way to the hospital 15 miles from here, her BP was again in this dangerously high
level, probably has been all week. I saw her this morning, and asked her if she had been to the doctor, she said she had an
appointment in the morning. I asked her why
she hadn't been sooner, she said she hoped she would start feeling better. Being the old worry wart I am, and due to the fact that I care for her and her young husband and family, I scolded her a little. I know that BPs in that level could be life threatening, I have hypertension, and depend on meds to control mine, but due to a blood virus sometimes mine gets that high too. She then told me something that broke my heart, "we lost our health insurance 3 weeks ago". I ask her why, she said "just could not pay the premiums any longer". And now, she is at the hospital, hopefully okay. Her husband was closing the business up and heading there as I was speaking on the phone with him.
Folks, this is what it's all about. NOT YOUR BLATHERING INSULTS, AND RACIST SLURS, AND DAMN REPUKICAN RHETORIC, AND HATEFUL UNCARING RANTS. May God speak to those
making this awesome decision, and for
Becca's and Keith's, and their kid's sake, and every other American in need of compassion, my prayer is that they listen to GOD'S WHISPERS, and pass this bill.

Posted by: patriotgmalou | March 15, 2010 10:58 PM | Report abuse

Dennis Kucinich is the new hero of the Right- Wing. Who would've believed it! He's the last person I thought would have turned his back on those who are suffering and are without insurance. Because there's no public option, he'll just leave these people in the cold in defense of his "principles". How sad and how uncaring. If he's so principled, then he should give up his health insurance which is paid for by the tax-payers of this country, and stand uninsured with the millions of uninsured in this country. It's easy for him to vote no because he has health care insurance.

Posted by: mrgrbrad2 | March 15, 2010 10:46 PM | Report abuse

Barack Hussein Obama is a corrupt Chicago Affirmative Action product who studied under radical communist Saul Alinsky and became his disciple. Neither he nor his ugly wife love this country.

Posted by: jhr1 | March 15, 2010 10:39 PM | Report abuse

Obama asked Representatives to show some "courage" in their vote on the health care bill. However, he does not seem to respect the courage of those, such as Kucinich, who oppose a weak, incomplete and unfair health care bill.

Posted by: Aprogressiveindependent | March 15, 2010 10:34 PM | Report abuse

Leftists eat their young.

Obama's a leftist? You could have fooled me!

A leftist would be advocating for a program that actually works, like Medicare for All.

Obama's just trying to bail out the insurance companies by guaranteeing them a market with the mandate.

Posted by: lambert_strether | March 15, 2010 10:19 PM | Report abuse

That's hilarious. Obama, who thinks the banksters are "savvy businessmen," wants to play the worker's new friend? Give me a break.

Kucinich is doing the right thing, and I hope this bill goes down to defeat.

Posted by: lambert_strether | March 15, 2010 10:14 PM | Report abuse

Kucinich might survive a vote for this abomination of a bill...but for the rest of the Democrats, simply political suicide. Almost worth seeing the bill pass to watch them all cry come November.

Posted by: JCM-51 | March 15, 2010 10:11 PM | Report abuse

Ha ha ha... what's he gonna do..... have Rahm walk in naked in the shower again???

Posted by: nosuchluck | March 15, 2010 9:51 PM | Report abuse

Here's how to deal with Kucinich: Give him his long-standing wish to create a Department of Peace and appoint him the secretary. Also give him a secretary and a nice budget to fly around the world making peace. At least that would get him out of the way of enacting health care reform for those of us who need it.

Posted by: jasm917 | March 15, 2010 9:19 PM | Report abuse


How quickly Barry the incompetent boob Obama's minions turn on even a true blue leftist like Dennis Kucinich. I will say one thing for Kucinich, the man has the courage of his convictions.

Leftists eat their young.

Posted by: screwjob11 | March 15, 2010 9:17 PM | Report abuse

Barack Hussein Obama...The other Red meat. If this guy doesn't believe in "From each according to his ability, to each according to his need", then God didn't make little green apples. Lord how I hate that man.

Posted by: jhr1 | March 15, 2010 9:10 PM | Report abuse

I greatly admire fello-Buckey- Representative Dennis Kucinich. He will Vote His' mind. I also want a Single-Payer Public Option,- but WE-the-People need to satrt somewhere. It has been an uphill battle for over 3 decades agaisnt $Special-Interest $Insurance, $Pharma, & $Med-CORPORATE $WALLsters!! -- -p.s.- Sen. Sherrod Brown & Rep. Kucinich in 2012. --- 'break-time',- I'm dying of cancer, and have no insurance, nor job, can't afford gasoline, hungry-3-nights-per-week, no-way-out-of poverty, absolutely no dental,-- and what does congress do for the little person? -- "ZILCHOLA", because congress is tooo-big busy bailing the globalist criminal $banksters!

Posted by: jward52 | March 15, 2010 9:09 PM | Report abuse

I greatly admire fello-Buckey- Representative Dennis Kucinich. He will Vote His' mind. I also want a Single-Payer Public Option,- but WE-the-People need to satrt somewhere. It has been an uphill battle for over 3 decades agaisnt $Special-Interest $Insurance, $Pharma, & $Med-CORPORATE $WALLsters!! -- -p.s.- Sen. Sherrod Brown & Rep. Kucinich in 2012. --- 'break-time',- I'm dying of cancer, and have no insurance, nor job, can't afford gasoline, hungry-3-nights-per-week, no-way-out-of poverty, absolutely no dental,-- and what does congress do for the little person? -- "ZILCHOLA", because congress is tooo-big busy bailing the globalist criminal $banksters!

Posted by: jward52 | March 15, 2010 9:08 PM | Report abuse

The Founding Fathers would cite the 10th Amendment and deem public healthcare an issue to be handled by the individual states.

Posted by: RealTexan1 | March 15, 2010 8:49 PM
..............
The Founding Fathers also owned slaves and smoked pot. Who knows what they would have done?

Posted by: lance_monotone | March 15, 2010 8:58 PM | Report abuse

Dear Rep. Kucinich,

Let me say it this way: Please.

And this way, too: Pretty please.

I hope you will vote yes.

Respectfully,

F.M.

Posted by: Felipe_M | March 15, 2010 8:55 PM | Report abuse

Kucinich is just like the Republicans, if he can't have it exactly his way, he will vote no and whine.

People who can't compromise, who can't emulate the Founding Fathers and come up with something everyone can live with, don't belong in Congress. If they can't do that, they don't believe in our system of government, they just want to bring it down.

Posted by: edismae | March 15, 2010 8:04
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If you think the Founding Fathers would support this bill, you're kidding yourself. The Founding Fathers threw off England's government which was doing exactly the kind of heavy-handed stuff this administration is doing.

The Founding Fathers would cite the 10th Amendment and deem public healthcare an issue to be handled by the individual states.

Tenth Amendment – Powers of States and people.
The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.

Posted by: RealTexan1 | March 15, 2010 8:49 PM | Report abuse

Barack Hussein Obama...The other Red meat. If this guy doesn't believe in "From each according to his ability, to each according to his need", then God didn't make little green apples. Lord how I hate that man.

Posted by: jhr1 | March 15, 2010 8:35 PM | Report abuse

There is no right or wrong side of history and anyone who uses this phrase is desperately seeking to create an unwarranted aura of inevitability re his partisan agenda, but only succeeding in making the rational among us want to puke at the indulgent self congratulation.

Posted by: RUKidding0 | March 15, 2010 8:09 PM | Report abuse

Kucinich is just like the Republicans, if he can't have it exactly his way, he will vote no and whine.

People who can't compromise, who can't emulate the Founding Fathers and come up with something everyone can live with, don't belong in Congress. If they can't do that, they don't believe in our system of government, they just want to bring it down.

Posted by: edismae | March 15, 2010 8:04 PM | Report abuse

This peice of ...er , legislation is a give away to the insurance companies... Obama will be set for life

Posted by: newagent99 | March 15, 2010 7:55 PM | Report abuse

Tell em to put it where the sun don't shine, Kucinich.

Posted by: donchew1 | March 15, 2010 7:51 PM | Report abuse

I predicted just a few months ago that Sen. Ben Nelson would never cave, so I am leery when I say that Kuchinich will never waver in his convictions.

I guarantee Obama could fly me around forever in AF-1 and I wouldn't waver. Actually, I would turn down the ride.

Posted by: thehamptons1 | March 15, 2010 7:49 PM | Report abuse

Ralph was right... So is Dennis.

Posted by: atroncale1 | March 15, 2010 7:47 PM | Report abuse

Do the right thing Dennis, go with your conscience, this bill doesn't address the core issue of containing skyrocketing medical costs, it will further burden our National Budget, it will burden state budgets, it will give more profits to the health insurance industry and it most certainly will be a job killer. Vote No Dennis, and be a hero to the American Public

Posted by: Magox | March 15, 2010 7:46 PM | Report abuse

A real texan praising Kuchinich? Hey, I'm liberal, i like Kuchinich. One of the few who called the Bush/Cheney fraud what it is. Me thinks Dennis will vote his conscience and that's fine. Health care will pass and the dog pack will move on to the next tire to bark and whine about.

Posted by: right_as_rain | March 15, 2010 7:43 PM | Report abuse

Kucinich is the kind of leader we need in the White House.

Stand firm, Mr. Kucinich.

Posted by: easttxisfreaky | March 15, 2010 7:34 PM | Report abuse

The USA thanks you Mr. Kucinich.
God Bless you and your family.

Posted by: dottydo | March 15, 2010 7:28 PM | Report abuse

Kucinich is not going to be on the wrong side of history.

Posted by: onifadee | March 15, 2010 7:05 PM | Report abuse

I will donate up to the federal limit to the campaign of any Democrat and Republican who opposes Kucinich in his primary and general election if Kucinich votes no on the current health bill.

Posted by: paul65 | March 15, 2010 7:02 PM | Report abuse

Kuchinich is brave, and probably should have been our President. He will stand firm against the tyrant Obama.

Posted by: RealTexan1 | March 15, 2010 6:57 PM | Report abuse

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