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Palin says her family went to Canada for health care when she was young

Updated 12:32 p.m.
Former Alaska governor Sarah Palin, a fierce opponent of Democratic health-care reform efforts who has said America under President Obama is headed toward socialism, told a Canadian audience her family used to go to Canada to get medical care when she was growing up.

"My first five years of life we spent in Skagway, Alaska, right there by Whitehorse. Believe it or not -- this was in the '60s -- we used to hustle on over the border for health care that we would receive in Whitehorse. I remember my brother, he burned his ankle in some little kid accident thing and my parents had to put him on a train and rush him over to Whitehorse and I think, isn't that kind of ironic now. Zooming over the border, getting health care from Canada," Palin said a speech Saturday night, according to the Calgary Herald.

Palin spoke before a paying audience of 1,200 in Calgary, with tickets costing between $150 and $200, the Medicine Hat News of Medicine Hat, Alberta, reported.

Whitehorse, in the Yukon, Canada, is north of Skagway.

Palin has also told an alternate version of the story that had her family traveling south by ferry to Juneau from Skagway for treatment of her brother's burned foot, rather than to Canada, according to a 2007 report posted by the Skagway News.

By Garance Franke-Ruta  |  March 8, 2010; 11:23 AM ET
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Dear Anotherviewfromhere
Thank for your comments.
You right I forgot to tell that our healthcare is financed by tax. Actually they highest tax rate in the world they say, mine is 47%. That’s the price for living in a country which is based on the Scandinavian welfare model.
My underlying and obvious ideological statements which is hard to avoid in this matter could lead the dialog into just name calling. That’s not the intention. I do keep my ideological statement but reframing my point. A rich, intelligent and carrying society will take care of the ill and the poor whether the means are private or public financed healthcare system. The problem is probably not the use of system or means, but what you fundamentally want to solve. To be specific; is it a societal task to solve?

1.that no one severe ill (or just ill)go bankrupted because of inadequate insurance

2.that poor get qualified medical care (in every state)

If yes, the question is? Do Obama’s and the democrats healthcare proposal address and solve these problems or are there competing other solutions that solve it better?
Kindly regards
Torben Kjeldsen
Rørvig, Denmark

Posted by: tk11231 | March 11, 2010 6:03 PM | Report abuse

Dear Anotherviewfromhere
Thank for your comments.
You right I forgot to tell that our healthcare is financed by tax. Actually they highest tax rate in the world they say, mine is 47%. That’s the price for living in a country which is based on the Scandinavian welfare model.
My underlying and obvious ideological statements which is hard to avoid in this matter could lead the dialog into just name calling. That’s not the intention. I do keep my ideological statement but reframing my point. A rich, intelligent and carrying society will take care of the ill and the poor whether the means are private or public financed healthcare system. The problem is probably not the use of system or means, but what you fundamentally want to solve. To be specific; is it a societal task to solve?

1.that no one severe ill (or just ill)go bankrupted because of inadequate insurance

2.that poor get qualified medical care (in every state)

If yes, the question is? Do Obama’s and the democrats healthcare proposal address and solve these problems or are there competing other solutions that solve it better?
Kindly regards
Torben Kjeldsen
Rørvig, Denmark

Posted by: tk11231 | March 11, 2010 6:01 PM | Report abuse

As a middle-aged Canadian quite satisfied with my health care system I have two short comments: 1) a recent Health Canada survey carried out by a respected polling firm (2009) found 80+ percent of Canadians were satisfied or very satisfied with their publically funded system-less than 10% were not-given their are 30-40% consistently committed Conservative voters in this country, this is a strong endorsement by the users of our system; 2) It seems from away that Americans seem to fixate on ideological labels in assessing health care options. The word "socialism" is thrown around when describing our system. Aren't your police, fire, & roads systems publically funded? Is that socialism. It means everyone has access to these services, even if they are not perfect. Ideology can be dangerous in that it can stopped people from exploring with an open mind. Good luck to all Americans trying to win a better health care system for all!

Posted by: kingston1 | March 11, 2010 11:55 AM | Report abuse

"orionca: you mean the wonderful free-enterprise system couldn't support emergency care in Skagway at the time? Why not?"

Same reason the wonderful, single-payer system in Canada doesn't have an ER in every small town in Canada: it costs too much. They send their urgent-care patients from rural communities to regional hospitals, too. Again, emergency care is not the question. If you show up at an ER in the United States or Canada then by law you get treated. Back then US and Canadian hospitals would have had virtually the same level of care. Today, because of budget constraints under Canada's single payer system hospitals up in Canada have somewhat older equipment, fewer beds, and a smaller range of medications and treatments available. The quality and availability of care in the US is better than in Canada and that's what we're talking about.

Posted by: orionca | March 11, 2010 2:47 AM | Report abuse

Torben Kjeldsen,



I would agree with you there is no perfect system of health care. I am also very pleased for you that are so happy with your country's health care.



I would disagree with you on a few other things.



It is not like breathing air, ultimately there is no free public healthcare. You may not be making a payment at the hospital or doctor, but it is being paid for through taxes or fees somewhere and by someone.


There is also someone else in charge of how and when those funds are being paid.

I am from the USA but I have lived various times throughout my life in Europe, Africa, and various other places in the world. Places with required National Health Plans and places with hardly any healthcare. Not every National Health Plan works as good as you feel yours does.

Some of the places were I lived people were very unhappy with the care available as well as the decisions on who receives that care.
One incident that really came to mind was an controversy in the late 80's in one country because of cost saving measures some operations and procedures were not being approved for the elderly or older generation. This was because it was not cost effective to the National Health service since the patients were older and past there prime of life. But at the same time it was discovered the country's health service had paid enormously expensive sex change operations. The ones receiving the operations were younger and had a long life expectancy. The operations were not medical emergencies but elective. The outcry was how could these operations be approved that were enormously expensive, but life saving or lengthing operations for elderly be denied because of cost effectiveness? Especially after the elderly had spent a lifetime working and supporting the national health care system with their taxes.

I do not agree that Nationalizing the Health Care system makes you an inteligent and caring society.
There are ways to improve the availability of health care with out Nationalizing the entire system.
I would agree with you that it would be best to focus on constructive solutions than name calling.

Posted by: Anotherviewfromhere | March 10, 2010 9:56 PM | Report abuse

nahummer you gave a link http://www.socialpolicy.ca/cush/m7/healthsystem.pdf and help to JanineC4 incase she had trouble reading the whole thing.

Did you have trouble reading it yourself?

When I read it, the page quoted did not seem to say what you implied. I think the part you used as your basis for the arguement that Palin must have used socialized medicine in 1961 was the following:

By 1961, all ten provinces and the two territories had signed agreements establishing public insurance plans that provided universal coverage for at least in-patient hospital care that qualified for federal cost-sharing.

You seem to be saying it was implemented while your quoted material only says agreements were signed that established it. From my personal observations in life, there is a long time span between something is signed until it is fully implemented. So this is quote is somewhat ambiguous, except it says specifically "for at least inpatient hospital care". So do you have new evidence that her brother was admitted to the hospital?

If not, I would say your smoking gun is really only a water pistol.

Posted by: Anotherviewfromhere | March 10, 2010 9:15 PM | Report abuse

Thanks for coming out JanineC4, someone has to do troll duty. Bravo. Perhaps you'd care to read http://www.socialpolicy.ca/cush/m7/healthsystem.pdf where you'll discover that the 10 provinces and two territories had implemented the 1957 national plan by 1961. I know it may be too long for that 172 IQ of yours so just skip to page three. http://theendisalwaysnear.blogspot.com/

Posted by: nahummer | March 10, 2010 7:12 AM | Report abuse

Dear readers
Is it really important what Palin has done or not.. come on
I am from Denmark, a little country in Europe, 5 mill citizens. We have public healthcare for everyone young, old, poor, rich, small, big and so one. Imagine that going to the hospital or to your doctor is free, no charge, no insurance cost! Is this system perfect? No system is perfect. But in general it works with a very high standard. What does this means in my daily life? I am never afraid of going bankrupted in case of bad insurance and severe illness. Furthermore I know that this apply for my old mother, my brother, my college, my neighbor, the homeless (yes we do have some) in the street. Is this socialism? Maybe! I don’t care. (We do have a free market in Denmark). The point is that intelligent and carrying societies of course have public healthcare. I think that if you don’t choose to follow your president’s suggestion of a public healthcare (partial though) your missing your chance to be the leading country not only economically but also morally and ethically. To my best knowledge a society which can’t take care of the ill and the poor have a tendency to degenerate. So the fundamental choice is not simply public healthcare or not, but do USA in the long term exits as leading country if you don’t choose right?
As an interested foreigner it would be enlightened if the debate focused on constructive solutions, e.g. transitions problems, going from one system to another, finding solution to the financial problems etc.
I don’t think that Palin ever have addressed this issues in puplic.
Kindly regards
Torben Kjeldsen.
Rørvig, Denmark

Posted by: tk11231 | March 9, 2010 6:07 PM | Report abuse

Dear readers
Is it really important what Palin has done or not.. come on
I am from Denmark, a little country in Europe, 5 mill citizens. We have public healthcare for everyone young, old, poor, rich, small, big and so one. Imagine that going to the hospital or to your doctor is free, no charge, no insurance cost! Is this system perfect? No system is perfect. But in general it works with a very high standard. What does this means in my daily life? I am never afraid of going bankrupted in case of bad insurance and severe illness. Furthermore I know that this apply for my old mother, my brother, my college, my neighbor, the homeless (yes we do have some) in the street. Is this socialism? Maybe! I don’t care. (We do have a free market in Denmark). The point is that intelligent and carrying societies of course have public healthcare. I think that if you don’t choose to follow your president’s suggestion of a public healthcare (partial though) your missing your chance to be the leading country not only economically but also morally and ethically. To my best knowledge a society which can’t take care of the ill and the poor have a tendency to degenerate. So the fundamental choice is not simply public healthcare or not, but do USA in the long term exits as leading country if you don’t choose right?
As an interested foreigner it would be enlightened if the debate focused on constructive solutions, e.g. transitions problems, going from one system to another, finding solution to the financial problems etc.
I don’t think that Palin ever have addressed this issues in puplic.
Kindly regards
Torben Kjeldsen.
Rørvig, Denmark

Posted by: tk11231 | March 9, 2010 6:06 PM | Report abuse

WaPo attempts another lame gotcha moment, totally forgetting that Canada didn't have fovernment healthcare at the time and didn't become fully socialized until the 1980s. So she lived in the boonies and Canada was the nearest place to go. So what. Yeesh and you people pretend to be journalists.

Posted by: joanne600 | March 9, 2010 5:25 PM | Report abuse

Typical Republicant.

Moans about death panels - and she is the only state Governor to have created and run any.

Moans about socialized medicine - and she owes her health to it.

Lives in the most welfare state of all - Alaska - and whines about taxes.

Seriously, what is WRONG with these al-Thea "Tea Bag" terrorists?

Posted by: WillSeattle | March 9, 2010 4:29 PM | Report abuse

It is neither ironic nor hypocritical. They did NOT have government health care in Canada back then. And as for all the perpetuation of myths and lies...you folks are only showing your own ignorance. If someone with not only an IQ of 172 and common sense told you that she is not as dumb as you believe, I suppose that would be a waste of breath... Well, I just hope that someday you folks will start educating yourselves instead of living on sound-bites alone. It can be very disturbing to find out you have been believing lies all your life.

Posted by: JanineC4 | March 9, 2010 4:13 PM | Report abuse

Was it called "Skagway" cause she lived there?

I wish she was smart enough to keep her lies straight. Not much chance of that, eh?

Good luck Yanks. She may be a liar and a fool, but fact is, she's not as stoopid as anyone who'd vote for her.

Posted by: law1946 | March 9, 2010 3:54 PM | Report abuse

The craziest part of the story is that I think Sarah Palin used the word 'ironic' in a sentence correctly. Next, she'll learn some bigger words like 'hypocrite' and maybe we'll have a chance to understand the words coming out of her mouth. http://theendisalwaysnear.blogspot.com/2010/03/this-week-in-wingnuttery.html

Posted by: nahummer | March 9, 2010 3:51 PM | Report abuse

Re: Universal health care in Canada staring in the 80's: well, no. Saskatchewan began a form of universal health care in the mid-40's. This was later taken as a model for expansion of health care Canada wide in 1966. Certainly a Canadian friend of mine's father was definitely anti-"socialist medicine" in Ontario (this was in the mid-70's). The understanding of the universality and depth of care of universal health care forms a continuum of coverage in every country in which it is implemented.

Posted by: kirtu | March 9, 2010 3:50 PM | Report abuse

orionca: you mean the wonderful free-enterprise system couldn't support emergency care in Skagway at the time? Why not?

Palin needs to backtrack a bit on the "evils" of the Canadian health care system. At least they actually have a health care system.

Posted by: kirtu | March 9, 2010 3:35 PM | Report abuse

What's hilarious about this thread is that the Palin haters are so freakin' misinformed and don't bother to read the comments before they spew filth at her. This was EMERGENCY CARE. Skagway, like many rural communities even today, didn't have an emergency room or a clinic capable of treating a serious injury like a burn. Her parents would have been sent to the nearest hospital, which in this case was across the border in Canada. For emergency care it doesn't matter whether the country has single-payer or not. You show up at an ER, you get treated, and they worry about the billing later. No one's ever questioned if Canada has Emergency Rooms: back in the '60s the level of care was roughly the same on both sides of the border. Today Canadian ERs don't have routine access to some procedures and medications that are available to US hospitals but they still do a reasonble job of treating injuries.

Posted by: orionca | March 9, 2010 3:26 PM | Report abuse

Palin and the media -- it's like "Br'er Rabbit and the Tar Baby" -- the mo'e they punch, the stucker they git.

Another pile of fact-challenged WaPoop...

Posted by: wfnaegele | March 9, 2010 3:23 PM | Report abuse

Palin doesn't scare Liberals. She is a source of amusement. What scares Liberals are the people that follow and believe in this magical-thinking, narcissistic, twit.
And to shellout hard earned money to listen to her silliness is mind- boggling.

Posted by: jckdoors | March 9, 2010 2:26 PM | Report abuse

Now you children need to understand a few things. One, there is but one road today out of Skagway, and it leads to Whitehorse. That was the closest town with a doctor. Two, there were no doctors in Skagway at that time. Three, there is no resident physician in Skagway even today. Four, the Canadian health care system did not go government control until 1972.

It's fun to watch brainless liberals jump without knowing how deep the mud is.

Posted by: drjohn3 | March 9, 2010 2:11 PM | Report abuse

Now we know,that "bridge to nowhere" that she DID initially endorse...was really a bridge to Canada for Better Health Care!

Posted by: sjo123452000 | March 9, 2010 12:21 PM | Report abuse

William Blake asks "What's worse than fascists?" Ah, fascists, those leftists the leftists love to portray as rightists -- the ones with an inordinate interest in healthcare, for instance. Take the National Socialist Worker's Party, better known as the NAZI's, as a prime example. It had a very strong interest in eugenics (Margaret Sanger; Planned Parenthood), universal healthcare (albeit with Death Panels for those deemed nonproductive to the state). Fascism has, as its core tenets social and economic interventionism. Sounds like a bad case of Democrats to me...

Posted by: unclesmrgol | March 9, 2010 10:24 AM | Report abuse

This is hilarious! All you Palin haters, and apparently the "professional journalists" at the Washington Post, have missed the fact that THERE WAS NO NATIONAL HEALTH CARE IN CANADA IN THE 1960s!

You left-wing types really crack me up!!!

LMAO!

The establishment of the Medical Care Act of 1966 allowed each province to set up their own "universal health care" programs, much like the states are free in America to do whatever they want regarding this sort of thing. The key word being allowed. (not required)
It wasn’t until the 1970's that Canada had any sort of nationwide "universal care" and it only covered in-hospital care. Doctor visits and other services weren’t covered.
It wasn’t until the Health Care Act of 1984 that Canada had what has come to be known as socialized medicine.
So Sarah and her family never "benefitted" from "socialized medicine." On the contrary, they received the same kind of quality care we get here in America.

Posted by: inmiami1 | March 9, 2010 9:46 AM | Report abuse

>this was in the '60s

GUESS WHAT!!

THERE WAS NO SOCIALIZED MEDICINE IN CANADA BACK THEN!!! They had the same system we have today of private insurance.

IT DIDN'T START UNTIL 1980s! (legislation in 1977).


**************YOU FAIL***********

Posted by: dxh123 | March 9, 2010 9:28 AM | Report abuse

" look up the Good Samaritan story and apply it!!!!"

---------------

Ummmm....the parable of the Good Samaritan says that he paid for the Jewish man's care himself out of his own pocket. It doesn't say anything about FORCING others to pay for it or taxing an entire country into oblivion.

Posted by: EMT907 | March 9, 2010 9:09 AM | Report abuse

Clearly the lunatics are running the asylum at the Washington Post. When one lives in a backwoods area, one accesses the most available service one can. It is simply logic and without logic, survival is questionable. Sarah Palin at five years old did not make health care decisions for her family. That so called editors at the Post would even allow publication of this piece says a great deal about its standards. A middle school newspaper would likely not print it as its gocha value is about zero. But it does harm the main stream media's reputation. Have to find the reputation first though.

Posted by: lavistabb | March 9, 2010 5:34 AM | Report abuse

Unfortunately populist, opportunistic hypocrites like Palin thrive during recessions, high unemployment,etc. No one would have paid attention to her during the Clinton prosperity days.

Posted by: veloboldie | March 9, 2010 5:22 AM | Report abuse


The Libs are absolutely obsessed with Sarah Palin, She must be Liberal Kryptonite !!!!!


Posted by: idesign
////////////////////////////////////////
She sucks.
Just like the Democrat and Republicans do.

Its all a fascist circus, has been since the coup in 1974. It was a controlled media circus that brought down Nixon and covered the reality of the upper class coup that took controll of the USA, in 73/74.
Of course the bigger reality is too scary to face and confront, so back to the comic book politics.

Posted by: WilliamBlake | March 9, 2010 5:20 AM | Report abuse


The depths of her hypocrisy knows no limit. And the mainstream media continues to cover this moron as if she were relevant. Just because a few delusional retards think she represents American values .....
Posted by: VeloStrummer |
..........................................
You have to give up the idea our media is independent. Its primarily a monopoly controlled by a small group.
They put up and keep up people like Sarah Palin, as our only rallying point for political disent, when she is really JUST MORE OF THE SAME TYRANNY. and keep real political dissent suppressed and silent.
People we could really rally around arekept mute or mocked into oblivion by the Neoliberal Fascists using the now well known Alinsky tactics.

Posted by: WilliamBlake | March 9, 2010 5:14 AM | Report abuse


The depths of her hypocrisy knows no limit. And the mainstream media continues to cover this moron as if she were relevant. Just because a few delusional retards think she represents American values .....
Posted by: VeloStrummer |
..........................................
You have to give up the idea our media is independent. Its primarily a monopoly controlled by a small group.
They put up and keep up people like Sarah Palin, as our only rallying point for political disent, when she is really JUST MORE OF THE SAME TYRANNY. and keep real political dissent suppressed and silent.
People we could really rally around arekept mute or mocked into oblivion by the Neoliberal Fascists using the now well known Alinsky tactics.

Posted by: WilliamBlake | March 9, 2010 5:14 AM | Report abuse

Sarah Palin is a huge distraction from the real issues.

We hardly need another George Bush and the eF U Republicans. At Best.
Sarah Palin is a political idiot. But a good mother. She is a fascist tyrant in the making. But good with children. She is nothing in herself, has no substance, and takes energy away from the real opposition to the fascist government of the USA.

Whats worse than Fascists?

Posted by: WilliamBlake | March 9, 2010 5:01 AM | Report abuse

Sarah Palin is a huge distraction from the real issues.

We hardly need another George Bush and the eF U Republicans. At Best.
Sarah Palin is a political idiot. But a good mother. She is a fascist tyrant in the making. But good with children. She is nothing in herself, has no substance, and takes energy away from the real opposition to the fascist government of the USA.

Whats worse than Fascists?

Posted by: WilliamBlake | March 9, 2010 5:01 AM | Report abuse

I wish that I could have been a member of Canada's "death panels."

Posted by: ginabw | March 9, 2010 3:27 AM | Report abuse

Palin's Father said that he paid for their healthcare in Canada according to another article. Many Canadians come here for surgery and other procedures that are not done in timely manner up there. Sad that the Washington Post cannot report the full story accurately. Suppose that is what happens when a newspaper has an agenda...

Posted by: Tinker4 | March 9, 2010 2:42 AM | Report abuse

Ms Palin is a liar. Expediency is her game. One wonders why the media dotes on her. Is it sensationalism or tits and ass.

Posted by: pbarnett52 | March 9, 2010 1:54 AM | Report abuse

Aaaaaargh! I wish Americans would get their facts straight. First of all, It's NOT socialized medicine, it's universally accessible health care. Secondly, if you are low income or made less than $6,000 per year, you can get a subsidy from free to about $10 for 3 months as I did in Vancouver, B.C. I was a university student the previous year, so paid the $10. I now live in the UK and no one pays for health care as it's taxpayer funded. I know I will live longer in both countries. Finally, if all these law makers are so called Christians, look up the Good Samaritan story and apply it!!!!

Posted by: andreab_49 | March 9, 2010 1:50 AM | Report abuse

the adult sarah palin criticizes the socialized health care that she received as a child, and calls it "Ironic"

not-joe the lying nada-plumber received welfare as a child, and then claimed that "nobody ever helped me" as an adult

the common themes here ???

blatant hypocrisy and unending stupidity

and these are the heros of the teabagger movement

see a pattern here ???

hint: keep the government's hands off of my social security

see the stupidity and hypocrisy yet ???

why not report it ???

Posted by: nada85484 | March 9, 2010 1:48 AM | Report abuse

The argument against the Canadian system obviously now centers around mental health care. It is clear that young Sarah never got the mental health care she really needed.

Posted by: Airspeed | March 9, 2010 1:42 AM | Report abuse

From the comments here, I see how the liberals including Wapo are really obsessed with Palin..I love it. Go Palin!

Posted by: johnrick | March 9, 2010 1:36 AM | Report abuse

First of all, I hope Canada recovers its costs for the treatment, with interest. Second, it kind of eviscerates the "socialism" argument of the radical right. Third, it seems to be a damning indictment of the Health Care System in the US.

Posted by: ChrisW1958 | March 9, 2010 1:24 AM | Report abuse

Isn't it ironic?
Sarah Plain is a liar AND a hypocrite.

Posted by: jeffc6578 | March 9, 2010 1:23 AM | Report abuse

Look, she told a different version of this story a few years ago because she's a compulsive panderer. She also wrote in her book about a visit to Grand Rapids that is so contrary to reality that the Iowa Independent described it as "fiction."

http://tinyurl.com/yhqzpqc

Maybe "panderer" is too nice. Maybe she's just a liar.

Posted by: BlueDog1 | March 9, 2010 1:14 AM | Report abuse

Yeah, and I bet she even used medicine that was manufactured in China!!!!! What a farking rag the WaPo has become.

Posted by: whizkidz1 | March 9, 2010 12:58 AM | Report abuse

Who writes this shiat? Yeah, and I'll bet Sarah Palin used medicine that was manufactured in China too! What a farking bunch of adolescents infest the editorial staff of the WaPo.

Posted by: whizkidz1 | March 9, 2010 12:56 AM | Report abuse

Does Dumbell Sarah Palin know meaning of Socialism, Defense, Economy, Foreign policy? Why doesn't she stay in Alaska, instead of coming out from there by opening her mouth, and prove how retarded she is?

Posted by: sidnamshe | March 9, 2010 12:37 AM | Report abuse

and to think that there are people out there who want this lying ding-bat to be the first female president makes me want to run to canada and became a citizen! geez!

Posted by: billydee123 | March 9, 2010 12:25 AM | Report abuse

Sooo ... Palin was an illegal alien in Canada stealing health care, what's next???

Posted by: knjincvc | March 9, 2010 12:22 AM | Report abuse

I love it, Palin's family used to run for the border for Canadas "socialized medicine" and Mitt Romney, while governor of Massachusetts, orchestrated the passage of a universal healthcare law that MANDATES that EVERYONE buy health insurance. The Repubs are the: Do As I Say, Not As I Do Party. Also Known AS : Hypocrites. Apparently, Palin thinks that a Government takeover of healthcare is OK if her family uses it and Mitt thinks that its OK for the citizens of Massachusetts but, not for you and me. What kind of elitist stuff are these Repub frontrunners trying to feed us?

Posted by: rkerg | March 9, 2010 12:14 AM | Report abuse

OoooooK Washington Post, you are beginning to read like the "RAG" mags. Sen. Hatch lying story...Palin's scooped up by a spaceship getting medical treatment in where? and where?..so, what next?Are you that desperate to take up blank space in your paper for this S__t? Come on guys. Just leave the page a blank canvas and let anyone with a bucket full of mess throw it and let it stay wheresoever it lands. LOL

Posted by: Chrisjj1948 | March 9, 2010 12:09 AM | Report abuse

Uh oh, looks like sister Sarah's husband has connections to Hugo Chavez's company Citgo.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/akmuckraker/the-palins-socialist-snow_b_488015.html

Posted by: RealChoices | March 9, 2010 12:03 AM | Report abuse

NEWSFLASH - Former Governor Until She Quit Sarah Palin said today, "Ooops. I didn't mean to say I went to Canada for health care. I meant to say *cambodia*, not *canada*. You see, I was born in Cambodia to a military family. I am Vietnamese unless I am campaigning in America, in which case I am really a negro born in the Conga. I do look negro, don't I?

"Can we say that here? I mean.. I am ultra white, but i am truly a negro. Right? Hello? Yooooo HOOOOOOO.. is this microphone on????"

Posted by: AuthoritativeAuthoritarian | March 8, 2010 11:42 PM | Report abuse

So Sarah Palin's family had access to Canada's affordable single payer healthcare. Wouldn't it be nice if Republicans would get out of the way so that all Americans could have access to affordable single payer healthcare! Come on Sarah, tell your Republican buddies to take off their hooded white sheets, stop burning political crosses and join Democrats in passing healthcare reform for the rest of us!

Posted by: sunrise2 | March 8, 2010 11:39 PM | Report abuse

To: anna_78750 - Free health care was available in many parts of Canada as early as the 1950s. In 1950, Alberta created a program similar to Saskatchewan's. Alberta, however, created Medical Services in 1948 to provide prepaid health services. This scheme eventually provided medical coverage to over 90% of the population. The Saskatchewan and Albert programs proved a success and the federal government of Lester B. Pearson, pressured by the New Democratic Party (NDP) who held the balance of power, introduced the Medical Care Act in 1966 that extended the HIDS Act cost-sharing to allow each province to establish a universal health care plan. Even though Palin was in Yukon, it is entirely possible that her family got free health care from a system she says should be dismantled.

Posted by: Slanted | March 8, 2010 11:38 PM | Report abuse

Sarah Palin: I can see health care from my back porch.

Posted by: Momo6 | March 8, 2010 11:32 PM | Report abuse

If this is no big deal, then why did Sarah change her story, just as she did about Troopergate, Traveling-on-the-state-dime-with-family-gate, Tanningbedgate and Fancy-clothes-for-the-campaign-gate?

See above: "Palin has also told an alternate version of the story that had her family traveling south by ferry to Juneau from Skagway for treatment of her brother's burned foot, rather than to Canada, according to a 2007 report posted by the Skagway News."

Posted by: Momo6 | March 8, 2010 11:30 PM | Report abuse

Add Canada to the list of other countries who laugh at us for inadequate medical care for our citizens.

Posted by: JFrank5317 | March 8, 2010 11:27 PM | Report abuse

The point is not that Whitehorse was close and so Sarah and family had no choice but to go there. The point is that Sarah has lied and dissembled about the Canadian system. And she has lied about health care reform in the US. This is why this news item is traveling around the web at the speed of light. It highlights her hypocrisy, lack of integrity, and malicious exaggeration of what the President is trying to accomplish, which is to help ordinary people -- like Sarah's family used to be.

Keep in mind what she has said. From NYT/AP today: 'She has criticized Canada's system, saying it should be dismantled in favor of free enterprise. And she has denounced President Barack Obama's health plan as being socialized medicine...Palin in August called Obama's health plan ''downright evil'' in a Facebook posting and said he would create a ''death panel'' that would deny care to the neediest Americans.'

Posted by: Momo6 | March 8, 2010 11:25 PM | Report abuse

Palin’s hypocrisy is truly astounding. Either she is too stupid to realize what she is saying or she just doesn’t care. Maybe both. What is more astonding is that there are still so many people that think so highly of her.

Posted by: Slanted | March 8, 2010 11:19 PM | Report abuse

What is her I.Q.level??????????

Posted by: Saliheser | March 8, 2010 11:06 PM | Report abuse

Good grief! Canada didn't even have the same health care system back then, and her parents took her brother to the closest hospital in Canada and paid for his treatment.

This is a non-story.

Posted by: anna_78750 | March 8, 2010 10:58 PM | Report abuse

Hey folks, you get it all wrong.
Goddess Palin is only confessing her sins.

Posted by: mixedbreed | March 8, 2010 10:56 PM | Report abuse

And who is this bias ladden Web reporter. French, Mexican, American and another affirmative action Harvard Grad out to bash Sarah!!!

Big deal!! I bet nobody has a clue how far out on the edge of civilization Whitehorse was in the 60's??

Posted by: jjcrocket2 | March 8, 2010 10:42 PM | Report abuse

Palin is a stupid, lying hypocrite.

Posted by: Bugs222 | March 8, 2010 10:35 PM | Report abuse

Wow...Palin is sooooooo stupid! Why does this women continue to get TV time? She makes the Republican party look so bad.

Posted by: divinequeen | March 8, 2010 10:32 PM | Report abuse

Boy, you guys do have a bad case of PDS, don't you. This is a "story" worthy of mention in the Washington Post? Really.

Posted by: disgusteddemocrat | March 8, 2010 10:30 PM | Report abuse

To thetan:

Whitehorse may be the same distance as Juneau, but it is only a 2-hour trip, while Juneau is 4 hours per Google Maps because you have to take two ferries to get from Skagway to Juneau. So going to Whitehorse makes perfect sense.

There is plenty to dislike Palin for but this isn't one.

Posted by: sargon21 | March 8, 2010 10:29 PM | Report abuse

If the U.S., Health care system is so great, according to Right-Wing Nuts, then why oh why would Palin and any other Nutwing need to go to Canada for Health care?

Oh, I get it. This is what she lied about to the Canadians, I mean said to the Canadians, so that she could STEAL their their money.

Let's see, 1200 tickets at about $200 a head comes to around $240,000.00.

Wow, this woman is better at Pimping folks than the average Pimp on the streets in America.

Posted by: lcarter0311 | March 8, 2010 10:28 PM | Report abuse

Well now Canada can laugh with the rest of the World about how stupid Americans are. It just keeps getting better and better as the GOP make idiots and fools out of Americans. Sarah used the Alaska taxpayers money and now it's back to using Canada. While American taxpayers get nothing and die Sarah is laughing and keeps selling that stupid book. Well Bush and Cheney made suckers out of the American people for 8 years and it worked really well. Mitt Romney is using Palin's plan and will get as much money as he can as he laughs all the way to bank. Most would be surprised at how man Teabaggers and Law Makers go to Canada and France for Health Care while saying how stupid Americans are who believe they really care about taxpayers.

Posted by: qqbDEyZW | March 8, 2010 10:27 PM | Report abuse

Your kid needs medical attention and you get it for him. The detractors here have Palin Derangement Syndrome. It's incredible the reaction that comes from the looney left on anything Palin. Palin is laughing all the way to the bank, you idiots.

Posted by: twotimetuna | March 8, 2010 10:20 PM | Report abuse

God bless Sarah's hypocrisy, perfidy, and ignorance. She not only tells a good joke. She is a good joke.

Posted by: mhitchons | March 8, 2010 10:17 PM | Report abuse

God bless Sarah's hypocrisy, perfidy, and ignorance. She not only tells a good joke. She is a good joke.

Posted by: mhitchons | March 8, 2010 10:16 PM | Report abuse

Not only is she nuts, but she is a compulsive liar.

Posted by: MNUSA | March 8, 2010 10:13 PM | Report abuse

This dimwit phony!

and just the other week, it was revealed:

Recently released documents from the custody battle show clearly Tripp Palin Johnston has socialized health care through Indian Health Services and the Alaska Native Medical Center.

Palin's family has federally funded health care afforded to them...but if you had it Barack Obama might kill you. Put this on the list of Palin's Greatest Hypocritical Hits...volume 97.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/shannyn-moore/granny-palin-overcomes-he_b_470297.html

Posted by: losthorizon10 | March 8, 2010 10:02 PM | Report abuse

Conservative parties in UK, Germany, Canada, etc. are best proves of how right-wing(1) the Democrats in US are and as a result what Utter complete Lunatics Republicans in US are whom are even to the right of the Democrats.

After all consider the FACT that the conservative party in UK. which is the most conservative party in Europe, far more conservative than for example Angela Merkel's party that just won the elections in Germany is to the FAR LEFT of the Democrats in US since the Conservative party in UK, that is Margaret Thatchers (Iron Lady) party, is "four and square" for their Universal nationalized (aka Socialized aka single payer) health care system, which you can read about here:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/politics/8200817.stm
what the Republican lunatics in US call "Socialism..."

Or here, the official position and web site of Conservative party in UK in regard to their Universal nationalized health care:
"This body will allocate money fairly and in a way which will help secure equal access to healthcare for all." Which you can read about it here:
http://www.conservatives.com/Policy/Where_we_stand/Health.aspx

And here you have US in Oct/2009 and it still does not have Universal nationalized health care as they have in UK, Germany, Canada, etc. as a result of which 50Mill Americans do not have health care as a result of which at least 100,000 Americans die each year due to being denied health care(2), 2Mill go bankrupt each year due to health care costs and health care is taking 18% of the GDP WHILE in European countries such as Germany, UK, etc. whom all have Universal nationalized health care, ZERO person is dying each year due to being denied health care or ZERO person is going bankrupt each year due to health care costs and health care is taking only about 8% of the GDP.

Full article here:
http://anoox.com/blog/Real_News.35602

Posted by: RealNews1 | March 8, 2010 9:59 PM | Report abuse

Yes, "retarded" is the correct term to describe Palin supporters. Ha ha ha

Posted by: johng1 | March 8, 2010 9:58 PM | Report abuse

Palin collected almost $250,000 from telling her wing-nut audience of Canadian dummies exactly what they wanted to hear!

However, she must have forgotten that her real audience is the American public.

Posted by: Citi__Street | March 8, 2010 9:56 PM | Report abuse

Antonio says..."1. The health care bill sponsored by the President is a breach of national economic security. This bill when passed will cost 1 trillion dollars for which we do not have. Therefore, this course of action raises the debt ceiling at an alerting rate that this generation has never experience."

YOU DUMMY. TOTAL HEALTHCARE SPENDING IS OVER $1TRILLION A YEAR ALREADY. A multi year bill at one trillion means nothing. The bill will save more than it costs over time.

the rest of that moonbat conspiracy stuff is sheer lunacy. jeez are there a lot of selfish dimwits out there.

THIS NATION NEEDS TO HAVE HEALTH CARE AND DR. VISITS FOR EVERYBODY - NOT JUST THE WELL OFF AND CURRENTLY EMPLOYED (BY A LARGE COMPANY).

Posted by: IwillkickyourrightwingA | March 8, 2010 9:52 PM | Report abuse

The depths of this woman's hypocrisy are bottomless. Oh and let's not forget hubris.

Posted by: greeenmtns | March 8, 2010 9:49 PM | Report abuse

Hee hee hee ha ha ha ROFLMAO etc.!

I have tried hard to understand this woman and it just can't be done!

Maybe if it's the Flying Spaghetti Monster's will she will become capable of coherent thought and speech.
Let us eat, or however one beseeches the Flying Spaghetti Monster for enlightenment.

Posted by: meand2 | March 8, 2010 9:46 PM | Report abuse

Why, Sterlingo, do you select health care as an item to cut? Why not the military or agriculture budgets, or the financial-sector bailouts, which are much larger and more persistent, and which are largely corporate welfare?

Posted by: jv26 | March 8, 2010 9:45 PM | Report abuse

I've been to medical clinics in Canada and seen doctors there for a little less than half of what I would spend in the US. It was very thorough care and I was satisfied. It's fairly unusual for anyone to pay cash, since every is covered up here, but they do have visitors like me and were happy to accept payments in cash.

Posted by: gce1356 | March 8, 2010 9:43 PM | Report abuse

Simply unbelievable, people who have no idea how health care in Canada works commenting on it. Ms. Palin has no concept of what socialism is. She is smart enough to figure out she can make a heck of alot more money on the fried chichen tour than being governor and have absolutely no responsiblilty for her actions or words. I worry about the people who admire her.

Posted by: johnturkal1 | March 8, 2010 9:43 PM | Report abuse

Simply unbelievable, people who have no idea how health care in Canada works commenting on it. Ms. Palin has no concept of what socialism is. She is smart enough to figure out she can make a heck of alot more money on the fried chichen tour than being governor and have absolutely no responsiblilty for her actions or words. I worry about the people who admire her.

Posted by: johnturkal1 | March 8, 2010 9:42 PM | Report abuse

Looking at Google Earth and its handy dandy distance measurement tool, I noticed something: Skagway, AK to Whitehorse, Canada is 87 miles. Skagway, AK to Juneau, AK, is 85 miles.

So her family chose to travel to a hospital further away, in a foreign country rather than just go to Juneau, one of the major cities of Alaska? They wanted to deal with passports and customs and international arrivals, rather than skip it? I mean, i'm not going to blame her for something her parents decided to do when she was 5, but it seems a bit fishy that they chose the foreign hospital rather than a domestic one.

Posted by: thetan | March 8, 2010 9:39 PM | Report abuse

To AuthoritativeAuthoritarian:

i wouldn't get too excited criticizing anyone, including Sara Palin, based on too little information in this case.

However, if you feel better venting and beating up on this gal whose parents needed to take their kids to nearby Canada for healthcare, probably because Alaska lacked facilities in the 60's,
then go ahead.

Steam ahead......but realize that she would just laugh off all of your criticisms; she is in the catbird seat -- like it or not.

Posted by: pjcafe | March 8, 2010 9:38 PM | Report abuse

How much the speaking fee - how big her lie.

Posted by: Evenfoolsarerightsometimes | March 8, 2010 9:38 PM | Report abuse

And the libs still suffer from Palin Derangement Syndrome.

Posted by: waterfrontproperty | March 8, 2010 9:22 PM
-==---------------------
And Palin STILL can't get her stories straight. Maybe she needs to write this one down on her hand so she tells the same story the same way more than once.

Posted by: windrider2 | March 8, 2010 9:36 PM | Report abuse

I live in Whitehorse, YT. People from Skagway commonly come here for helthcare. They are a tiny little town and they do not have the resourses for a hospital. Towns that small do not have hospitals in Canada either.

I think some commenters do not realise how remote our part of the world is. Whitehorse has the only hospital anywhere near Skagway, and even we are a couple of hours drive over a knarly highway that is often closed in winter.

This has nothing to do with the public/private healthcare debate.

Posted by: astark2 | March 8, 2010 9:33 PM | Report abuse

1. The health care bill sponsored by the President is a breach of national economic security. This bill when passed will cost 1 trillion dollars for which we do not have. Therefore, this course of action raises the debt ceiling at an alerting rate that this generation has never experience.
2. Thus, enabling China and India to purchase more land at discounted prices with the motive to call this debt to term. Calling this debt to term will enable the Chinese and Indians to buy huges chunks of United States of America at deflationary prices. This buying spree of real estate will allow the Chinese and Indians to invade this country at a moment notice. President Obama and Congress are putting this nation at economic risk. We must deter anymore expansion of debt by rejecting this health care bill. It is time to save, protect and preserve the United States of America as we know it today. For our children will become slaves in this globalized economy. The military must stay on alert to save the Homeland from the encroachment of China and India on American soil. Health care will destroy our economy.

Antonio Ivan Easterling
Chief Editor
The Proletarian Review

Posted by: sterlinggo1 | March 8, 2010 9:30 PM | Report abuse

"without Democrats Politics wouldn't be funny or silly ... gooses'

(ABC News) A Complicated Enemy: Obama Seeks to Vilify Health Insurers, Give Them $336 Billion Check

Abc_zach_wolf_090309_mnABC’s Z. Byron Wolf reports: President Obama and Democrats launched a campaign to vilify insurance companies in the final stretch of their health reform effort.

Republicans, meanwhile, pointed out that those very same insurance companies would get huge checks from the government if health reform is enacted.

http://blogs.abcnews.com/thenote/2010/03/a-complicated-enemy-obama-seeks-to-vilify-health-insurers-give-them-336-billion-check.html

Posted by: highkey11 | March 8, 2010 9:23 PM | Report abuse

Lets face the FACT: Republicans are utter complete lying lunatics, that is they say they want to "reduce the Deficits", "they are worried about the debt bomb..", etc. But if you really want to really reduce the Deficits then you would be for greatly reducing health care costs which means then you would be for Universal single payer health care.

Because in every European country, Canada, Israel, etc. whom have single payer health care, health care on average is taking about 9% of the GDP, while the US for profit health care is taking 18% of the GDP, here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Health_care_in_Canada

How is it that Universal nationalized single payer health care will SAVE us about 50% compared to the current for profit health care system WHILE giving every American free or very affordable health care like $59 per month as in Canada, for the Taxes that we (already) PAY? Answers:

1st- The way Universal Nationalized Health Care is operated in Europe, Canada, Israel, etc. is the same way we operate the Military, Police, Fire Department, Courts of Law, etc. etc. in US. That is these important services are paid for mainly from our Taxes, and the salaries of people involved in them is set by our Government (Federal or State). So the same way that our Government sets the salaries of a 4 Star General or an Admiral or a Federal Judge is the same way that the Governments in UK, Israel , etc. sets the salaries of Doctors, Nurses, etc. working in their Universal Nationalized Health Care system.

2nd- No one working in the Universal Nationalized Health Care system will be able to get paid $50Mill per year and fly in $100Mill private Jets as is the case with the top brass of the Big Pharma, Big Insurance, etc. in the US. And equally as important, No Health care provider can go public and thus generate 100s of Millions of Dollars in listing fees for the Wall Street bankers and pay 100s of Millions of Dollars per quarter to the Wall Street gang in the form of dividends, preferred shares, etc.

Much more here:
http://anoox.com/blog/UHC.34590

Posted by: RealNews1 | March 8, 2010 9:22 PM | Report abuse

And the libs still suffer from Palin Derangement Syndrome.

Posted by: waterfrontproperty | March 8, 2010 9:22 PM | Report abuse


the story reads, "Palin has also told an alternate version of the story that had her family traveling south by ferry to Juneau from Skagway for treatment of her brother's burned foot, rather than to Canada, according to a 2007 report posted by the Skagway News."

===============

so sarah.. which is it? are you having a little with the truth today? or maybe you just haven't a firm grasp on reality... maybe next month when you are in california promoting your comic book, you will tell the people you took your ailing brother with the burned foot to a free health clinic in golden gate park.

you are a friggin loon lady... the only thing i can hope for, is that the next time you take a helicopter and buzz a wolf 10 feet overhead.. chasing and chasing and chasing him until he collapses from exhaustion is.. that when you get out of the helicopter with your 12 gauge shotgun to blow it's brains out from 10 feet away.. is that it finds one ounce of strength in it's body, and leaps up and rips your jugular vein... that would be poetic justice for sarah, and her ballsy sport of stalking wild animals by helicopter.

Posted by: AuthoritativeAuthoritarian | March 8, 2010 9:16 PM | Report abuse

Seriously, is this news? We have a congressman accusing the White House of mafia type threats and we are worried about where Palin's brother was treated? Get on message! We need jobs not more gov't sponsored entitlements. Cheers.

Posted by: MPNangle | March 8, 2010 9:14 PM | Report abuse

"ANCHORAGE, Alaska (AP) -- Sarah Palin has criticized Canada's health care program, saying the socialized system should be dismantled in favor of free enterprise."

Why? Because Palin can't stand the fact that everyone in Canada is covered by health insurance and she thinks everyone in the world should be as pathetic as the United States.

Posted by: jjedif | March 8, 2010 9:12 PM | Report abuse

Stop with the Palin stories, She will not be a President in this country ever. We have already had a stupid President, maybe President of her fan club.

Posted by: porcelainproductions | March 8, 2010 9:09 PM | Report abuse


canada should send the palin's a bill.

Posted by: AuthoritativeAuthoritarian | March 8, 2010 9:09 PM | Report abuse

So . . .

. . . the point of this article is that the Canadian health care system made Sarah Palin dumb?

Posted by: palmtree2001 | March 8, 2010 9:03 PM | Report abuse


OF COURSE THIS MEANS ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO THOSE DUMB@SS TEABAGGERS BECAUSE OF THEIR RABID HATRED FOR OUR BLACK PRESIDENT!!!

Posted by: demtse | March 8, 2010 9:02 PM | Report abuse

To this day more Americans go to Canada for health care than the reverse. Canadian care was and is far cheaper and better too.

Posted by: george11 | March 8, 2010 9:02 PM | Report abuse

Life expectancy has been greater in Canada than in the US since national health care was implemented in Canada in the '60s. Cuba has matched US life expectancy since the early 70's.

Posted by: Emmetrope | March 8, 2010 8:58 PM | Report abuse

Life expectancy in Canada has been greater than in the US since national health care was started in Canada in the '60s. Cuba has matched US life expectancy since the early 70's.

Posted by: Emmetrope | March 8, 2010 8:56 PM | Report abuse

America is ranked #37 for health care in the world
according to the world health organization.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yVgOl3cETb4&feature=player_embedded#at=133

Posted by: blakesouthwood | March 8, 2010 8:55 PM | Report abuse

Who cares what Palin did 35 years ago?! Unlike every journalist, I don't even care what she is doing today. Can there be a bigger non-story.

Jay Leno (last week); "Obama had his annual physical. During his colonoscopy, they found 3 MSNBC reporters and the New York Times." He may need to add ABCNEWS and the author of this article to his list.

Posted by: Tostitos | March 8, 2010 8:47 PM | Report abuse

Maybe this is one story she could have kept to herself, especially knowing that some will question whether she's a hypocrit. But she's just dumb. And for you idiots who keep parroting that libs are obsessed with Sarah Palin -- get a grip! Main stream conservatives are not stupid enough to want Sarah Palin anywhere near the White House. We just wish she'd go away and stop embarrassing herself.

Posted by: jfoster13 | March 8, 2010 8:38 PM | Report abuse

It's the lying which is important. which story is true? Whitehorse or Juneau?

Posted by: therev1 | March 8, 2010 8:36 PM | Report abuse

Silly right wing dogma spewers:

Why would Canada which, like Alaska, is also at the top of the world have better hospitals and doctors. After all THEY ARE socialists aren't they? They shouldn't have had ... but they did!
Wonder what our military hospitals were like up there during
the same period?

Stop the dogma Righty McPoopy, analyze the issue and the person on a case-by-case basis. Are you too lazy to do that?

Posted by: periculum | March 8, 2010 8:36 PM | Report abuse

What's even more insane is that people actually pay good money to hear this idiot babble on about her idiotic life.

Posted by: PepperDr | March 8, 2010 8:36 PM | Report abuse

Silly right wing dogma spewers:

Why would Canada which, like Canada, is also at the top of the world have better hospitals and doctors. After all THEY ARE socialists aren't they? They shouldn't have had ... but they did!
Wonder what our military hospitals were like up there during
the same period?

Stop the dogma Righty McPoopy, analyze the issue and the person on a case-by-case basis. Are you too lazy to do that?

Posted by: periculum | March 8, 2010 8:35 PM | Report abuse

Gasp!

Posted by: logicprevails | March 8, 2010 8:35 PM | Report abuse

This isn't fair because God sent them there.

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Posted by: nikejordans1 | March 8, 2010 8:35 PM | Report abuse

palin a hypocrite? Say it isn't so!

Posted by: John1263 | March 8, 2010 8:32 PM | Report abuse

Firstly, WaPo, this comments format sucks some seriously large donkey dong. Get rid of it.

Now to the laughing...

That's it, just laughing.

Posted by: juggernautenterprises | March 8, 2010 8:29 PM | Report abuse

This is complete BS... I lived in Fairbanks Alaska from 2000 to 2008 and I had to fly back here to get a surgical proceedure done because they did not have a qualified doctor to do it up there. Limited healtcare choices is a fact of life in Alaska not because of the system it is because it's at the top of the world. Leave it to the Compost to use this POS artical to attack Palin. The rest of you idiots really need to educate yourselves before posting ignorant comments here.

Posted by: nosuchluck | March 8, 2010 8:29 PM | Report abuse

Wow bsallamack chill out about the Downs Syndrome will you. I do not think she will ever ask you to baby sit!

I bet she probably would volunteer at the school he go to if that makes you happy!


Also where would you stop? Would you only expect everyone having a Down's Syndrome baby abort?


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Posted by: Anotherviewfromhere | March 8, 2010 7:09 PM | Report abuse

Hmph. Wouldn't Russia have been closer?

Posted by: Jeff_delaRosa | March 8, 2010 6:38 PM | Report abuse

I find it amusing that the Post is implying that she is a hypocrite for using a universal care system as a kid while opposing it as a kid. Add in the like kind of comments.
Posted by: waste93
.............................
No she is a hypocrite for the following.

Ms. Palin sees nothing wrong in the public spending extra to educate children with Down syndrome when she has a child with Down syndrome, but is righteous in her opposition at the idea of a program where the public might have to spend in cases of ill children.

Apparently the public expenditures on special education for children with Down syndrome is capitalism, while public expenditures for national health insurance would be socialism.

Posted by: bsallamack | March 8, 2010 6:24 PM | Report abuse

I find it amusing that the Post is implying that she is a hypocrite for using a universal care system as a kid while opposing it as a kid. Add in the like kind of comments.

Oh wait. Someone didn't do some homework trying to make her look like a hypocrit. National Healthcare in that part of Canada went into effect about 1972. Palin says this happened in the '60s.

http://www.hc-sc.gc.ca/hcs-sss/pubs/system-regime/2005-hcs-sss/time-chron-eng.php

Gee, guess she isn't a hypocrit. So was that part left out of the story on purpose in an attempt to score political points or was no research done?

Might want to check to see if the Canadian hospital was the closest with the level of care her brother needed back in the 60's. That might have more bearing on why he was taken there.

Posted by: waste93 | March 8, 2010 6:04 PM | Report abuse

After further reflecting on this story, let's remember that Palin & her siblings were children who needed competent medical care that they didn't have access to or most likely could not afford in the US hence the reason to cross the border into Canada to receive free competent medical care. In other words, it wasn't her decision to go to Canada for competent medical care as a child, it was her parents decision. However, this SHOULD give her pause to think of her familys' past experiences and to think of the millions of Americans in her own country who are presently in this very same situation. She should want competent medical care for her fellow Americans....just as her parents wanted that competent medical care for their children. However, how did her family game the system in Canada to receive medical care? You must be a citizen of Canada to receive this care.........Canadiens do not treat people who just happen to travel for this care.......you must be a Canadian citizen....how did they meet the challenge of citizenship in Canada???

Posted by: btafmax4 | March 8, 2010 5:51 PM | Report abuse

jimmy371 states/asks:
First: She was a child and had no control of where she went for medical care.
Second: What could her family afford? If Canada was giving it away, I would go to Canada, too.
Third: Which was the easiest to get to?

_________________________________________________________________
1. Did you miss the part of the article where she bragged about squeezing free health care from a country not her own? You know... like all them Messkin illegals who come to get our free emergency room aid.

2. Canadian health care isn't free, Jimbo. Canadians pay for it. But it's good to admit that you'd do what you condemn illegal aliens for doing here.

3. Its easier to get medical care in ones own town than to hop a ferry or a train bound for Socialistland.

Posted by: tojby_2000 | March 8, 2010 5:51 PM | Report abuse

Silly little leftists.

Her family lived near a city in Canada that had good doctors and hospitals.

Her family PAID for the medical treatment in Canada. It wasn't socialized health care then.

She was a kid at the time, her memory on the details...going by ferry or by train, or by a combination of them fuzzy. Perhaps a talk with her family simply established the details. As if she would have reason to lie about HOW they got there.

You leftists really do show how desperate you are and how little you care about facts.

Posted by: TiminPhoenix | March 8, 2010 5:50 PM | Report abuse

Ms. Palin is always a wonder in her home spun naivete.

A woman that knows and decides to give birth to a child Down syndrome. Ms. Palin sees nothing wrong in the public spending extra to educate children with Down syndrome but is righteous in her opposition at the idea of a program where the public might have to spend in the cases of ill children.

Apparently the public expenditures on special education for children with Down syndrome is capitalism, while public expenditures for national health insurance would be socialism.

Posted by: bsallamack | March 8, 2010 5:06 PM | Report abuse

Wow this is earth moving investigative reporting!
But why is this on the Obama page?

I guess she has been living a lie since she was between 3 months to 5 years.

Did you look at a map when you wrote this piece of investigative reporting? Whitehorse is North and Juneau is South, but is that the problem?
Could her brother needed emergency care and gone to the easiest place to reach first and a followup visit at the other?
Could there have been two different hospital or doctor emergency needs and actually wenttwo both places but one for something other than her brothers burned foot? This would mean she mispoke or remembered wrong.

Sort of like when Obama said he went to 57 states and only had a couple more to go to!

Did you check with her or her parents to confirm this earth shattering news, before painting her as a hypocrite?
Did you think that they went to Canada to cheat the National healthcare system (that did not exist as it is today) or could it been the easiest place to get to in an emergency?

How does this relate to making policy decisions now?

Do you think she tried to mislead the public because she was palling around with Bill Ayers or some other Domestic terrorist?

If so she was less than 5 years old and was not having her coming out fund raising event for the State senate in his home!

Why not spend your precious investigative time on why there is no transparency with the Health Reform legislative process.

Just some questions from another viewpoint?

Posted by: Anotherviewfromhere | March 8, 2010 5:01 PM | Report abuse

First, let us all take note that tickets for this event, a stroll down Palin's childhood memory lane, only cost $150 to $200......waaay below what she scalps US taxpaying conservatives & tea partiers....those Canadiens must be smarter than their American counterparts in this regard. And guess what? Her family used the Canadian health care system, repeatedly, and none of them were put on the 'death camp' list....AND her family must have viewed the Canadian health care system as adequate, competent and caring to use it repeatedly. Wake up, she's so flippy-floppy, like a pair of summer sandals, she's all about herself and the Palin coffers. She doesn't devote any free of charge time to special needs children without getting paid to do it. She's devoted to nothing but Sarah. Let's all hope and pray that politics doesn't breed another like her.

Posted by: btafmax4 | March 8, 2010 4:57 PM | Report abuse

How anyone could think that this woman is presidential material....

Posted by: ScoutieDog | March 8, 2010 4:52 PM | Report abuse

Why any surprise?

She's a liar, has always been a liar, and will always be a liar.

She has the intellectual ability of a Toad.

Sarah "the" Palin is the laughing stock of the world.

Posted by: sal723 | March 8, 2010 4:47 PM | Report abuse

There are too many questions about this story.

First: She was a child and had no control of where she went for medical care.

Second: What could her family afford? If Canada was giving it away, I would go to Canada, too.

Third: Which was the easiest to get to?

Posted by: Jimmy371 | March 8, 2010 4:41 PM | Report abuse

"Believe it or not -- this was in the '60s -- we used to hustle on over the border for health care that we would receive in Whitehorse."

The phrase "we used to hustle on over the border for health care" implies that Sarah's family did this more than once, not just for her brother's emergency burn. Was it part of their everyday medical care? Did her parents use the Canadian system as their regular doctor?


Aside from the talking point 'the US has the best health care system in the world', what has Palin said substasively about it? Our country currently ranks 33rd in infant mortality and 39th in quality of care, but this never seems to enter into the Right's debate. What is the plan to improve the care available to our citizens? We're behind Cuba and Slovenia, for Pete's sake.

I recognize that our cardiac programs or our cancer treatment or many areas of advanced surgical treatment rank at the top of care internationally. Where we fail, where we fall behind the rest of the industrialized world is in preventative medicine, allowing access to medical care for routine treatments and annual exams to prevent health issues from becoming acute or chronic. Where is the opposition's plan to improve access to care?

Posted by: thingsthatshine | March 8, 2010 4:31 PM | Report abuse

When are people going to realize that citing Wikipedia is not reliable?

http://www.hc-sc.gc.ca/hcs-sss/pubs/system-regime/2005-hcs-sss/time-chron-eng.php

Posted by: soccermom4 | March 8, 2010 4:31 PM | Report abuse


She is an attractive paradox and a symbol of America being pulled and pushed by the forces of ambitious greed, arrogance and fear. We will watch her as she moves through the political machine to see if it grinds her up or if she comes out of it wiser and stronger.

P.S. I have seen articles where as governor she was more liberal than anyone in D.C. now. Spreading oil profits to all Alaskans, which today she and Limburgians would call "socialism"

Posted by: thestoryplease | March 8, 2010 4:24 PM | Report abuse


She is an attractive paradox and a symbol of America being pulled and pushed by the forces of ambitious greed, arrogance and fear. We will watch her as she moves through the political machine to see if she is ground up or comes out of it wiser and stronger.

P.S. I have seen articles where as governor she was more liberal than anyone in D.C. now. Spreading oil profits to all Alaskans, which today she and Limburgians would call "socialism"

Posted by: thestoryplease | March 8, 2010 4:23 PM | Report abuse

VonVervengarten--you are a freaking liar. I am from Canada and there are NOT thousands of Canadians fleeing to the US for health care. So go get your facts straight you wingnut!

Posted by: RogerNoVa | March 8, 2010 4:20 PM | Report abuse

Sorry to bust Georgia7's bubble re Canadian healthcare only coming in '72. The fact is, Alberta, where Palin said her family went, had health coverage for its citizens long before that. From Wikipedia:

In 1950, Alberta created a program similar to Saskatchewan's. Alberta, however, created Medical Services (Alberta) Incorporated (MS(A)I) in 1948 to provide prepaid health services. This scheme eventually provided medical coverage to over 90% of the population.

Posted by: jhpurdy | March 8, 2010 4:17 PM | Report abuse

Are you Palinistas so desperate that this creature is the object of your hero worship?

I mean in the entire ranks of GOPworld is there no one better?

Posted by: willandjansdad1 | March 8, 2010 4:12 PM | Report abuse

If Sarah Rodriquez's family drove over the US/Mexico border to access our health care system, Conservatives would be outraged. If Sarah Palin's family goes to Canada to get treated at their hospital because the US didn't have an adequate medical system, there's no issue.

Posted by: thingsthatshine | March 8, 2010 4:11 PM | Report abuse

It's funny that people keep pulling out the Post Office as an example or government failure. The USPS is pretty good. For a mere 44 cents they will deliver a letter anywhere in the US in a few days. What's the problem?
Posted by: presto668

Amen! I worked for FedEx for 22 years and the other day I got my FedEx bill in the MAIL. We have an excellent PO and the only real improvement/savings would be to drop Saturday service.

My local DOT is real good....The people there remember you and are friendly and efficient.

Over 80% of Canadians are happy with their health care.

Posted by: willandjansdad1 | March 8, 2010 4:09 PM | Report abuse

If the Washington Post has done their research (POLITICO has already made their correction), they would know that Canada did not even have socialized healthcare until 1972...

So...if you can stifle your Palin Derangement Syndrome long enough to do the math, this would mean that The Heath Family crossed the border in the days of pre-Socialized Canadian healthcare.

Sorry to burst your little bubbles...

You'll have to find another imaginary Palin Controversy to tear your hair out over.

Posted by: Georgia7 | March 8, 2010 4:08 PM | Report abuse

So Sarah Pile-on admits using Canada's Health Care System

Maybe what's good for the goose (or moose-killer) is worth a gander.

Now watch Sarah cry (once again) that those mean-spirited liberals are picking on little ol' her.

Posted by: Rdobrick | March 8, 2010 4:05 PM | Report abuse

Never ending media coverage of the SWAG grabbing FOX celebrity.

Posted by: whocares666 | March 8, 2010 4:02 PM | Report abuse

HYPOCRITE!

Posted by: Gary12 | March 8, 2010 4:01 PM | Report abuse

I just read VonVervengarten's post. Not true. Here is another fact misrepresented. Less than .5% of Canadian's go to the US for medical care and some of that is cosmetic care. Canadian's are not flocking to the US for medical care and all have medical care. In the US, thousands die each year for lack of medical care. Also, Americans go to foreign countries for medical care if they have the money and need a specialty. It is Americans that are making medical tourism a sport.

Posted by: Jerry26 | March 8, 2010 3:57 PM | Report abuse

How many feet does she have which she puts in her mouth. Or she has become too Liberal for Limbaugh for telling the truth. On second thought I hate socialized healthcare especially for Palin.

Posted by: msiddiqu | March 8, 2010 3:54 PM | Report abuse

jcory:
"Think Amtrac and the Postal Service when you yearn for government health care. This should help."

It's funny that people keep pulling out the Post Office as an example or government failure. The USPS is pretty good. For a mere 44 cents they will deliver a letter anywhere in the US in a few days. What's the problem?

Posted by: presto668 | March 8, 2010 3:50 PM | Report abuse

rbrook wrote>>>So don't be so stupid about every statement made by someone

Exactly! all you dittoheads need to take responsibility and start thinking for yourselves for a change.

Posted by: angie12106 | March 8, 2010 3:50 PM | Report abuse

Faux News gets Righties all wee-weed up by LYING about the details in the health care reform bills!
The RNC document was corrent - FEAR works on their gullible rubes.

Posted by: angie12106 | March 8, 2010 3:47 PM | Report abuse

Faux News gets Righties all wee-weed up by LYING about the details in the health care reform bills!
The RNC document was corrent - FEAR works on their gullible rubes.

Posted by: angie12106 | March 8, 2010 3:47 PM | Report abuse

Illegals aren't included in the health insurance reform bills - but Palin and Repubs continue that LIE.
But it's OK with Palin that her parents were ILLEGALS accessing health care in Canada.
LOL

Posted by: angie12106 | March 8, 2010 3:43 PM | Report abuse

Illegals aren't included in the health insurance reform bills - but Palin and Repubs continue that LIE.
But it's OK with Palin that her parents were ILLEGALS accessing health care in Canada.
LOL

Posted by: angie12106 | March 8, 2010 3:43 PM | Report abuse

At least the Palin's didn't have to wait in line like we have to in this country

Posted by: donnie2545 | March 8, 2010 3:42 PM | Report abuse

to quickly dispel a myth, only .5% of people in Canada get health care coverage in the US, (and only 1/4 of that did so intentionally). Where as US citizens spend about $1 Billion getting prescription drugs from Canada.

Posted by: alex35332 | March 8, 2010 3:41 PM | Report abuse

Wow! Once again Sarah Palin has got the American Left all 'wee weed up' about a comment about something that happened when she was five! Everytime they fall for it hook, line and sinker!

Posted by: GeneCar | March 8, 2010 3:41 PM | Report abuse

Oh pretty please let her run for president. Pretty, pretty please?
Posted by: elguapopelirojo

Amen. Because we really need the free entertainment. These are some hard and dreary times and it costs so much just to go to the movies. A Sarah campaign would be just the comic relief this country needs. Posted by: nicekid

How about this nightmare 2012 scenario...

Obama 39%
Any Sane Republican 21%
Sarah 40%

I could happen. Thank God (her co-equal and BFF by the way) she can't keep her batcrap crazy mouth shut.

Posted by: willandjansdad1 | March 8, 2010 3:40 PM | Report abuse

I'm a Canadian. In my province I pay the princely sum of $54/month ($80 for couples, $104 for families) for comprehensive single-payer health care. That covers all the doctor visits I may need, plus hospital care, specialist referrals, blood work, x-rays, MRI & Cat scans, ambulance, EMT, etc. I have separate, private coverage for dental, prescription drugs and extended & supplemental care (private hospital room, massage therapy, physio, orthotics, etc).

It's so much more efficient and cost effective than what my relatives in the US have. Nobody, but nobody in any industrialized country in the world wants the kind of overpriced, conditional medical care Americans are cursed with.

If private, for-profit medical insurance were superior to single-payer - if it were cheaper, more efficient and provided better health outcomes, there would be no debate here. The rest of the world would privatize medical insurance, just as so many countries have successfully privatized their post offices, government-owned airlines and other public services.

More here:
http://anoox.com/blog/UHC.33976

Posted by: RealNews1 | March 8, 2010 3:40 PM | Report abuse

I see references to SickKids, which has treated by child in the past (when we were living in Canada). He is now being treated in New York and we have very good insurance here in the US at a huge price (as long as stay employed here). His treatment at SickKids was overall better than in New York and, being Canadians (I am a dual resident), we did not have one dollar of co-pays. The waits were a bit less at SickKids and the follow-up much much better. We need to schedule surgery for my son and are thinking about going back to SickKids given the quality of the treatment and follow-up. Not that I would say the care was not good in New York -- it was just not as good and cost a whole lot more. I would say the same about my own medical care.

The misinformation on the Canadian system is ridiculous. A larger percentage of Canadians are satisfied with their health care than Americans, the outcomes are better, the cost is lower, and very few people are excluded.

No wonder Palin went to Canada to be treated. Yes, I have been to Skagway -- and Whitehorse in not an urban medical center either.

Posted by: Jerry26 | March 8, 2010 3:38 PM | Report abuse

She's in their funny little liberal heads....

Posted by: idesign | March 8, 2010 3:34 PM | Report abuse

She's in their little liberal heads....

Posted by: idesign | March 8, 2010 3:33 PM | Report abuse

Sarah remembering back to something that happened when she was five is going to cause a tidal wave of googling/wiki-ing/binging.

Obama as an adult remembering the 57 states he had visited/or mentioning a non existent language/or calling Great Britain "England" (which was announced to all participants at my kids 6th grade geo-bee as a no-no)....not so much.

I've received care in the US and Canada. Never mind the 1960's, in this day and age Canadians are flocking to the U.S. That is a fact and while the liberals on here are busy trying to look back in time I suggest they look up what Canadians do today when major hospitals in Canada can't deal with their ailments.

Posted by: VonVervengarten | March 8, 2010 3:32 PM | Report abuse

I know all you crazy liberals are frothing at the mouth over Palin's comment about going to Canada for medical care in the 1960's. But perhaps if you could THINK you might realize that in the 1960's Canada did not have socialized medicine.
The first province to implement it was Saskatchewan and this didn't happen until the mid 1960's. And if you actually knew some history (any history), you might realize that Canada's effort to build the Alaska highway during WW2 was a huge effort 2nd only in scale to the Manhattan project. This took thousands of doctors to Northern Canada during the war and built up Whitehorse (where Palin went for care) into a boom town. It boomed for years after the war and became home for many doctors while parts of Alaska were still a ghost town. So don't be so stupid about every statement made by someone without first knowing some HISTORY!

Posted by: rbrookk | March 8, 2010 3:31 PM | Report abuse

the point is being missed. It is not about health care at all, it's that Palin panders to her asudience just like any professional politician. To an Alaskan audience, her parents took her brother to an Alaskan medical facility, but to a Canadian audience, they took him to a Canadian medical facility.

Posted by: stevewintermute | March 8, 2010 3:30 PM | Report abuse

Why dont you liberal idiots look at a map and see that the Yukon Territory is huge and in the middle of nowhere and maybe there was no where else to go. Has nothing to do w/ Canada's health care system (didnt one of their governors recently come to the US for heart surgey?) I dont think Canada had socialized medicine in the 60's anyway. Clowns

Posted by: j751 | March 8, 2010 3:29 PM | Report abuse

there is no government takeover in the health reform legislation, just subsidies to enable the mandate to buy PRIVATE health insurance to cover the cost of the EXISTING delivery system. no government run anything.

tort reform would be nice, but it has nothing to do with the rising cost of health care because the cost of malpractice insurance and (necessarily) the dollar value of verdicts has not been rising over the last decade or so. it's a flat amount that in fact becomes a declining percentage as the real costs go up.

so called "defensive" medicine is not responsible for the rising cost of health care either, and for the same reason. doctors today aren't any more "defensive" than they were ten years ago, so again, it's a fixed or declining percentage as costs go up for other reasons altogether.

costs have more than doubled in the last decade, and since neither malpractice insurance nor defensive medicine have increased at all, they have nothing to do with the problem that necessitates reform.

just by the way, more unnecessary MRIs are ordered by docs who own a piece of the MRI machine than by those afraid of a lawsuit. many times over.

Posted by: JoeT1 | March 8, 2010 3:27 PM | Report abuse

It's obvious many of these posters have never been to Skaway or don't know anything about Skagway! Way back then there was little if any health care in the small villages in Alaska such as Skagway! Sooooo they were forced to go where there was some.

Posted by: Jimbo77 | March 8, 2010 3:27 PM | Report abuse

What a great move. Palin expalins that beofre socialized medicine the Palin’s thought nothing of going to Canada to get healthcare since it was closer.

Now after 30 years of socialized medicine the Canadians are coming to America.

and the left fell all over themselves to point this out. ROFL.

how socialized medicine destroyed medicine in Canada.

Hook, line, and sinker.LOL

Posted by: idesign | March 8, 2010 3:26 PM | Report abuse

I do not see the point here. She is pathological liar. She used the same story twice to relate to who ever she was talking to. LOL, the GOP mantra, reactionary works. You know how you GOpers do... awww shucks repeat an absolute wrong a lot , people will believe you. No matter dumb it is.

Posted by: Sincear2021 | March 8, 2010 3:25 PM | Report abuse

3,2,1…. Four hundred reporters heading to Cananda and Alaska to find out where the burn victim’s foot was treated and wrapped. They already tried calling hospitals in Whitehorse. They all refused to answer their questions.

The MSM has completely lost it….

Posted by: idesign | March 8, 2010 3:24 PM | Report abuse

Hard to believe that people still are paying fancy prices to listen to her drivel. But obviously conservatives still have plenty of money to throw away while so many others continue to suffer the dismal after-effects of the GOP's Bush era.

Posted by: TomCamfield | March 8, 2010 3:23 PM | Report abuse

Another intelligent post from a deranged liberal. LOL

Posted by: idesign

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In Idesign's case, LOL" means "Lots of Love."

Sorry, Idesign, but I'm straight. You'll have to play bottom to someone else. I recommend HuhghGKnutss. I imagine that your sphincter could accommodate him quite easily.

Posted by: sasquatchbigfoot | March 8, 2010 3:21 PM | Report abuse

Oh pretty please let her run for president. Pretty, pretty please?

Posted by: elguapopelirojo

Amen. Because we really need the free entertainment. These are some hard and dreary times and it costs so much just to go to the movies. A Sarah campaign would be just the comic relief this country needs.

Posted by: nicekid | March 8, 2010 3:21 PM | Report abuse

Here's another example of Sarah's hypocrisy and fraudulent outrage.

She spewed outrage from her facebook page and tv news for days about David Letterman's "Palin daughter-Rodriquez" joke.

She was silent about Jay Leno's "Palin daughter-John Edwards" joke and was pleased as punch to appear on his show.

Leno's joke was reported during the Letterman feud and again when her recent Leno gig was announced, giving her plenty of time to prove she wasn't a fake "mama grizzly".

Posted by: sallyes | March 8, 2010 3:16 PM | Report abuse

Conservative respondents will find screwball ways to spin this. However, her recollections just indicate that even 30 or so years ago Canada had better and/or less-expensive health care than we. And probably also cheaper meds, even back then.

Posted by: TomCamfield | March 8, 2010 3:12 PM | Report abuse

I am surprised they didnt just stroll over to Russia to get their health care..

Posted by: Tom1 | March 8, 2010 3:11 PM | Report abuse

di-di-di wrote:

"Mister Blue Balls, aka, HughGNutts, I think"

Indeed, you were trying to think, but nothing happened. Gotta love that minimum wage humor!

Where did Palin "suggest" health care was better in Canada? Is that another liberal lie? Are you simply confirming that liberals are in general dishonest?

Could it be possible, that in such a remote area, that the nearest medical facility was across the border?

In your little world, do children decide they want socialized treatment?

I disagree about liberals tending to be better educated. Liberals tend to think they are owed everything in life and like John Kerry, if they can't get it, they marry into it, or like John Edwards, they rape hospitals and doctors with frivolous lawsuits that cause healthcare costs and medical malpractice insurance to skyrocket, which in turn raises costs on everyone.

Posted by: HughGKnutts | March 8, 2010 3:09 PM | Report abuse

Oh pretty please let her run for president. Pretty, pretty please?

Posted by: elguapopelirojo | March 8, 2010 3:07 PM | Report abuse

Republicans are missing what we're seeing as the point of this story. It's not about the relative sensibility of single-payer. It's about Palin telling a story two or three different ways in the space of a couple of years to fit whatever she's trying to say at the time. You're right, though, that compulsive lying from her is hardly news.

Posted by: jeffwacker | March 8, 2010 3:07 PM | Report abuse

So, everyone is having a conniption over something that I can't seem to figure out... Palin mentions something that happened when she was 5 and says something about it being ironic and all you liberal dolts are analyzing it to death without even knowing what the heck you are analyzing because she didn't say what was ironic... don't you feel stupid? or just dumb for wasting all this time on this? figuring out how many miles it is between Skagway and Whitehorse? is there a train? when did it run? what time of day? You people are really pretty useless...

Posted by: idesign | March 8, 2010 3:06 PM | Report abuse

So, socialized medicine is good enough for Canada, but not for the U.S.

Was it free to Sarah and her family?

That's just like a Republifreak, make bills and leave them for others to pay.


Posted by: lindalovejones | March 8, 2010 3:05 PM | Report abuse

Good ol Sarah Failin'

Proving almost daily now what a complete wreck of a human being and American she is, and why McCain didn't get the Presidency.

Posted by: Nosh1 | March 8, 2010 3:04 PM | Report abuse

not to ask

Posted by: StumpTownHero | March 8, 2010 3:02 PM | Report abuse

not to ask

Posted by: StumpTownHero | March 8, 2010 3:02 PM | Report abuse

In the good ole days a WAPO reporter would have done the research on the status of the Canadian system and asked Mrs. Palin if she saw any problems with her family using the Canadain system and her current stance. But alas journalism today seems devoid of facts and works hard to ask confrontational questions least they be denied access to worship at the feet of their anointed stars or the lips treasured "anonymous" sources

Posted by: StumpTownHero | March 8, 2010 3:01 PM | Report abuse

she's not human! Her family had her replaced with a cyborg baby in that socialized Canadian hospital in Whitehorse!

Posted by: idesign | March 8, 2010 2:57 PM | Report abuse


"The irony of her story to the Canadians escapes her. Instead of taking her brother to a doctor in the town she lived in, her family, instead, went to Canada for treatment. I wonder how much they paid for it or were they able to provide a Canadian address and receive free care? "

Ummmmmmm...helloooo....she was in Skagaway in the 1960s! Have you ever been to Skagaway? I went there in 2000, and it was fairly small-town then. I imagine it was even less developed 40 years ago. I'm sure going to the country doc was fine for a sore throat, but they had to go to a bigger city for care of a burn injury........much the same way anyone in a small town would. It just so HAPPENS that the nearest town was in Canada.

You're right. You have no idea of the circumstances of payment. But never let that lack of information or the fact that Sarah was age FIVE, at the most, get in the way of a good smear!

Posted by: soccermom4 | March 8, 2010 2:54 PM | Report abuse

Andrea Mitchell/NBC News Washington: According to my sources in Canada, five year old Sarah Heath coined the term 'death panels' on the playground during recess one day during the dodge ball game against the 7 year old boys. Amazing after all of these years that she can change her last name, but her rhetoric stays the same.

Posted by: idesign | March 8, 2010 2:53 PM | Report abuse

She has always told one story to cover up another. I guess that's part of being folksy. You start out with one untruth and the next untruth has to be bigger to cover up the first one. Then the next untruth has to be even bigger to cover the last one. Eventually they quit being untruths and start being lies. This is when the truth comes out and starts kicking dirt in the hole that has been created. Finally she will end up at the bottom of all of those lies and the dirt will cover her and her lies up. At first Sarah was just highly unqualified, now she is unqualified and a liar also. Sarah is going to lie herself into an early political demise and she has to one to blame except herself. I'm sure she will blame someone though, how about Katie Couric?

Posted by: racam | March 8, 2010 2:53 PM | Report abuse

@ Mairiparris

It's The Hospital for Sick Children (SickKids) as anyone in Toronto well knows. You see the weirdos with clipboards hitting all and sundry up for money on the sidewalks much the way Greenpeace activists do here. Your dates are not the same as the complete healthcare overhaul. The Calgary Herald notes that Medical Care Act that established national medicare came to Canada was implemented in 1966. It was not "well in place" but well on its way to being in place.

Posted by: 2partsgin | March 8, 2010 2:53 PM | Report abuse

We already know that La Palin has no trouble with her little grandspawn receiving free care courtesy of the Native Alaskan service.

Posted by: willandjansdad1 | March 8, 2010 2:51 PM | Report abuse

Left or right, neither needs to spend too much time on this or get upset: Palin is is, effectively, unelectable except to the local liquor board and everyone needs to spend more time on things thate aren't toast.

Posted by: Hugh2 | March 8, 2010 2:48 PM | Report abuse

What I find “ironic” is that if those family emergencies happened today and her parents took her brother to an American hospital emergency room they would likely wait 2 to 4 hours before seeing a doctor, who would most likely be a resident in training working a 24 hour shift. Since her stories make no mention of her parents having health insurance, they would likely have a bill in the four figures which would be double what the hospital bills an insurance company for exactly the same care!
The bottom line is that Socialized medicine around the world delivers better results for entire populations and generally for 1/2 of the cost of what we pay to cover 85% of legal residents. While it is true we have the best cutting edge medicine in the world it is not available to a majority of American’s even if they HAVE insurance because for profit health insurance companies have “real life death panels” to deny coverage to prevent access to expensive cutting edge care.
The GOP has no plan to cover the uninsured, end coverage OR preexisting exclusions and control skyrocketing private healthcare premiums. Until they do put forth a comprehensive and meaningful alternative they have abdicated their right to participate in the process!
We can talk all day long about the depth of Mrs. Palin’s subject knowledge but even the GOP has admitted the basic facts of American health care are not up for debate. We have the most expensive health delivery system in the developed world that delivers mediocre results and puts us all one major accident or illness away from bankruptcy. Until we focus on those FACTS the ramblings of Mrs. Palin are just a distraction from the first, and most critical challenge, of many to putting our governments financial house in order because without fixing the cost of healthcare we are headed toward financial and social disaster!

Posted by: StumpTownHero | March 8, 2010 2:47 PM | Report abuse

Obviously we need to find her writings from ages 3-6 and find out what her true feelings were on drilling in ANWR.

Posted by: 2partsgin

Good point. We need to send 100 members of the Lame Stream media to check out Her first grade records....

Posted by: idesign | March 8, 2010 2:46 PM | Report abuse

What I find “ironic” is that if those family emergencies happened today and her parents took her brother to an American hospital emergency room they would likely wait 2 to 4 hours before seeing a doctor, who would most likely be a resident in training working a 24 hour shift. Since her stories make no mention of her parents having health insurance, they would likely have a bill in the four figures which would be double what the hospital bills an insurance company for exactly the same care!
The bottom line is that Socialized medicine around the world delivers better results for entire populations and generally for 1/2 of the cost of what we pay to cover 85% of legal residents. While it is true we have the best cutting edge medicine in the world it is not available to a majority of American’s even if they HAVE insurance because for profit health insurance companies have “real life death panels” to deny coverage to prevent access to expensive cutting edge care.
The GOP has no plan to cover the uninsured, end coverage OR preexisting exclusions and control skyrocketing private healthcare premiums. Until they do put forth a comprehensive and meaningful alternative they have abdicated their right to participate in the process!
We can talk all day long about the depth of Mrs. Palin’s subject knowledge but even the GOP has admitted the basic facts of American health care are not up for debate. We have the most expensive health delivery system in the developed world that delivers mediocre results and puts us all one major accident or illness away from bankruptcy. Until we focus on those FACTS the ramblings of Mrs. Palin are just a distraction from the first, and most critical challenge, of many to putting our governments financial house in order because without fixing the cost of healthcare we are headed toward financial and social disaster!

Posted by: StumpTownHero | March 8, 2010 2:46 PM | Report abuse

I'd come to believe that the problem with Sarah was that she was in fact pretty bright, but inherently lazy and lacking intellectual curiousity. Now I'm not so sure again about the bright part.

Posted by: billvaughn | March 8, 2010 2:46 PM | Report abuse

I'd come to believe that the problem with Sarah was that she was in fact pretty bright, but inherently lazy and lacking intellectual curiousity. Now I'm not so sure again about the bright part.

Posted by: billvaughn | March 8, 2010 2:45 PM | Report abuse

My mother corrected my childhood memories over the years. It's easy to confuse events when you're five.
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Except that Palin told a DIFFERENT story about her brother's burn, and where he was treated, in her book.

Posted by: beachykeen02 | March 8, 2010 2:35 PM

Posted by: 2partsgin | March 8, 2010 2:43 PM | Report abuse

Uh, mr.nutz, this is probably going to come as a shock to you, but liberals tend to be better educated and higher income than conservatives... this is why you complain about "limousine liberals" and the liberal academy (i.e., universities)... That said, a fourth grader has enough education to read Ms. Palin's writing. A high school graduate should have enough experience to resist its blatant demagoguery.

To the point though, Canada had effectively "socialized" (to borrow this misuse of the word) all hospital care in 1961 and had finished a gradual extension to physician care by 1966. What happened in 1984 was an overhaul of the system. Either way, Ms. Palin is suggesting that health care in Canada was better or cheaper than health care in the U.S.? Why might that be? You certainly can't blame the minimal federal programs (beyond the VA, if you dare) at this point in history.

Posted by: orgbluspider | March 8, 2010 2:42 PM | Report abuse

Angie, don't be an idiot do you really think you will get quality health care under the government. And don't you think we may want to go after tort reform first and see what that can do to bring down cost. I bet it would stop many test done to cover the doctors in case you drop dead 5 years down the road. Think Amtrac and the Postal Service when you yearn for government health care. This should help.

Posted by: jcory | March 8, 2010 2:42 PM | Report abuse

I think you need to get on your knees, open your mouth wide and grab the HughGNutts.

Posted by: sasquatchbigfoot

Another intelligent post from a deranged liberal. LOL

Posted by: idesign | March 8, 2010 2:41 PM | Report abuse

Idesign, I take it that you are tying with only one hand when you write "LOL," and that your other hand is servicing HughGNutts.

Posted by: sasquatchbigfoot | March 8, 2010 2:41 PM | Report abuse

Obviously we need to find her writings from ages 3-6 and find out what her true feelings were on drilling in ANWR.

Posted by: 2partsgin | March 8, 2010 2:41 PM | Report abuse

But, can she see Canada from her window?

Posted by: jrussell1 | March 8, 2010 2:40 PM | Report abuse

Typical Palin, making it up as she goes along. Not unlike Reagan, actually.

Posted by: jeffwacker | March 8, 2010 2:40 PM | Report abuse

Mister Blue Balls, aka, HughGNutts, I think that the backup of seminal fluid in your brain has led you to spurt T-B-er shouting points. Perhaps you should let Idesign open his/her mouth and relieve you of the backed up brain fluid. While he/she does that. you might be interested in reading this section of the Wikipedia entry on the history of Canadian health care:

In 1957, the federal government passed the Hospital Insurance and Diagnostic Services Act to fund 50% of the cost of such programs for any provincial government that adopted them. The HIDS Act outlined five conditions: public administration, comprehensiveness, universality, portability, and accessibility. These remain the pillars of the Canada Health Act.

By 1961, all ten provinces had agreed to start HIDS Act programs. In Saskatchewan, the act meant that half of their current program would now be paid for by the federal government. Premier Woodrow Lloyd decided to use this freed money to extend the health coverage to also include physicians. Despite the sharp disagreement of the Saskatchewan College of Physicians and Surgeons, Lloyd introduced the law in 1962 after defeating the Saskatchewan Doctors' Strike in July.

Posted by: sasquatchbigfoot | March 8, 2010 2:39 PM | Report abuse

Sarah Palin lives rent free in the heads of deranged liberals...LOL

Posted by: idesign | March 8, 2010 2:37 PM | Report abuse

jfv123 is a lie only a lie if Ms. Palin is not the person telling it? When I was five years old, I got a nasty gash on teh side of my head. My sister and her friend who were teenagers loaded me in the friends car and drove me to the doctor in a city about twenty miles away. I have told that story a lot of times, to barbers, to other doctors, to...yes...Canadians, at no time was I transported by a barber (because he happened to be cutting my hair when I was telling the story) or by a doctor who happened on the scene (to please the doctor as an audience)--nor was I transported to Canada just because I was telling the story to Canadians. That is because the truth is the truth and when the facts get altered to please an audience, then there is a slippery slope. How many more facts get altered? Where does the line get drawn between "harmless" and harmful? Americans seeking medical care in Canada, especially during this health care debate is a big deal. When someone who was a governor and a vice presidential candidate and has a national stage asserts that Americans seek medical care in Canada--it is a VERY big deal. One has to wonder why Ms. Palin said it--did she change the facts before or did she change them now and why?

Posted by: Prosperity2008 | March 8, 2010 2:36 PM | Report abuse

The irony of her story to the Canadians escapes her. Instead of taking her brother to a doctor in the town she lived in, her family, instead, went to Canada for treatment. I wonder how much they paid for it or were they able to provide a Canadian address and receive free care? Yet, she is fighting tooth and nail against passing health care reform in this country, which would help rural Alaskans receive better health care.

It's these little stories that she drops on her audiences that should make them think critically about this woman. But I guess critical thinking regarding Palin is something they are scared to do because their "golden girl" would then fall from her pedestal.

Posted by: missgrundy | March 8, 2010 2:36 PM | Report abuse

Except that Palin told a DIFFERENT story about her brother's burn, and where he was treated, in her book.

Maybe she should just start writing her stories on her hand, so that she can keep them straight. Also.

Posted by: beachykeen02 | March 8, 2010 2:35 PM | Report abuse

HughNutts wrote>>>Again, a 6 year old child doesn't know what socialized medicine is, nor do they seek it out

But Palin's parents did.
Hmmm....wonder why Palin doesn't want Americans to have CHOICES her parents had?

Posted by: angie12106 | March 8, 2010 2:34 PM | Report abuse

You libbies are really in the weeds………LOL
You’re grasping at straws.

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I think you need to get on your knees, open your mouth wide and grab the HughGNutts.

Posted by: sasquatchbigfoot | March 8, 2010 2:34 PM | Report abuse

solticebelle wrote>>>>It's comical to watch the repugs spinning madly to defend this latest Palin hypocrisy!

Repubs can't admit they were duped - while Palin laughs all the way to the bank.
But perhaps SOME Repubs see the light since her popularity is in the toilet.

Posted by: angie12106 | March 8, 2010 2:31 PM | Report abuse

Allen, you may have missed RedLizards excellent rebutal:

"VOXPOP - I did and you are FLAT wrong so stop being a liberal OBAMA Apologist. PER WIKIPEDIA (and you would have found this if you had kept reading instead of grabbing the initial sentence that you THOUGHT made your point ~
By 1961 All provinces had AGREED to enact the program whovere they did not enact it YET. The law was not introduced until 1962 by Woodrow Lloyd. furthermore it says the The Saskatchewan program proved a success (that's only one Province and success is more than arguable in hind-sight. It wasn't until 1966 that new legislation ws introduced to FORCE all provinces into HIDS cost-sharing. The Travesty that we now recognize as Canadian Healthcare did not come to fruition until 1984.
In the future please don't regurgitate Progressive talking points...there are just too many of us with graduate degrees that are truly educated and aware for you to pull this mediocrity of argument (garbage) that you espouse/expound."

Are you going to hold yourself to the same standard you would hold me?

I applaud your attempt to go after dishonesty, however, it would be easier to find it within your own kind here.

Again, a 6 year old child doesn't know what socialized medicine is, nor do they seek it out. I know it's difficult for liberals with low IQs to get this. It's this level of non-thinking (or more than likely, dishonesty) that we have minimum wage laws in this country. There are simply stupid people out there and they tend to flock to the comments section of wapo for some reason.

Posted by: HughGKnutts | March 8, 2010 2:30 PM | Report abuse

A folksy story for every occasion, even if it's all a load of garbage, huh?

It gives you a good idea of what kind of people follow this moron when they seemingly don't care if what she says is real or not. I suppose they assume she's talking in parables.

Posted by: icurhuman2 | March 8, 2010 2:28 PM | Report abuse

A scandal definitely worthy of front page coverage.

Shame on Five year old Sarah Palin.
Anyone been to Skagway? Still not what anyone would call a medical center.
I also guess no one ever used more than one doctor for anything.

Notwithstanding the other explanations, my assumption is that Ms. Palin was probably combining different stories to create one that was complimentary to her hosts. Shame on her!

She probably also told two different aunts they both baked her favorite cookies. Again, another two timing lie. Ms. Palin probably also lied to her mother about her dating habits. Again, shame on her. Are there no bounds to her bold faced lies!

Keep up the crack investigative reporting. Maybe this story can be turned into a series. I see Pulitzer prizes in the future.

Posted by: jfv123 | March 8, 2010 2:25 PM | Report abuse

A scandal definitely worthy of front page coverage.

Shame on Five year old Sarah Palin.
Anyone been to Skagway? Still not what anyone would call a medical center.
I also guess no one ever used more than one doctor for anything.

Notwithstanding the other explanations, my assumption is that Ms. Palin was probably combining different stories to create one that was complimentary to her hosts. Shame on her!

She probably also told two different aunts they both baked her favorite cookies. Again, another two timing lie. Ms. Palin probably also lied to her mother about her dating habits. Again, shame on her. Are there no bounds to her bold faced lies!

Keep up the crack investigative reporting. Maybe this story can be turned into a series. I see Pulitzer prizes in the future.

Posted by: jfv123 | March 8, 2010 2:25 PM | Report abuse

Too many of you are Palin haters and don't even know why...you just follow like sheep.

Posted by: Aiden3
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Actually I don't hate Palin. I just think she is not qualified, period. To put it succintly she did that all on her own.

For the record it is common for Americans to go to Canada to medical treatment before the Canadian adopted the healtcare system they currently have.

Posted by: beeker25 | March 8, 2010 2:17 PM | Report abuse

It's comical to watch the repugs spinning madly to defend this latest Palin hypocrisy!

Posted by: solsticebelle | March 8, 2010 2:14 PM | Report abuse

You libbies are really in the weeds………LOL
You’re grasping at straws.

You follow everything She does….
Using a marker on a cap, The writing on Her hand, Her bracelet, one of Her staff left, She’s going to take over the Tea Party movement, Leno wrote her comedy skit. She stopped by the Oscar swag suite. Burned foot gate. Bla bla bla.

She’s in YOUR heads. LOL

You need to check out Her schedule for the next 8 months…..

She’s gathering Her flock, to smash Obama and his band of “merry” men. LOL
2010 is going to be beautiful year. You libbies have no clue what’s coming.

POWER to the PEOPLE! God’s plan unfolds……

Posted by: idesign | March 8, 2010 2:11 PM | Report abuse

so, to review, palin is a hypocrite because, while she's against universal health care, her parents took her brother to Canada for emergency medical treatment in the 60s. i suppose "retarded" is exactly what comes to mind.

Posted by: batigol85 | March 8, 2010 2:04 PM | Report abuse

And...idesign and HughGKnutts (great Christian Family Values name there by the way :-( )you may not know you're lying if simply repeating the words of a liar.

If YOU find out you passed along a lie do you really have the HughGKnutts to admit you are wrong?

Think maybe this (earlier post), instead is correct?

To all the Palin apologists: Universal (90%+) government subsidized health care was in effect in all ten Canadian provinces by 1961 as part of the HIDS Act. Next time please do some research before re-telling of some (errant) talking point.

Posted by: VoxPop | March 8, 2010 1:36 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: AllenAllen | March 8, 2010 2:03 PM | Report abuse

So as not to be "bated," let me ask you to which version of the story are you referring. The foot-burn-treated in Canada story, or the foot-burn-treated in the US story? Or are you claiming both are true?

They took him to Whitehorse for emergency treatment. And then later took him to Juneau for hospital admission and rehab.
both “versions” of the story are completely true.LOL


Posted by: idesign | March 8, 2010 2:03 PM | Report abuse

Good ole "Sarah-bait" -- she's just SO tiresome now.

Posted by: seaduck2001 | March 8, 2010 2:02 PM | Report abuse

AllenAllen wote: "So as not to be "bated," let me ask you to which version of the story are you referring. The foot-burn-treated in Canada story, or the foot-burn-treated in the US story? Or are you claiming both are true?"

Neither. If you had read my comments, they were about the dishonest assumptions of the left wing nuts that she was seeking out "free" healthcare.

People often recall stories when they were young with differences. Not everyone, though recalls visiting all 57 states when they are older.

Posted by: HughGKnutts | March 8, 2010 2:02 PM | Report abuse

QUOTE "Next time please do some research before re-telling of some (errant) talking point."

Posted by: VoxPop | March 8, 2010 1:36 PM | Report abuse

VOXPOP - I did and you are FLAT wrong so stop being a liberal OBAMA Apologist. PER WIKIPEDIA (and you would have found this if you had kept reading instead of grabbing the initial sentence that you THOUGHT made your point ~
By 1961 All provinces had AGREED to enact the program whovere they did not enact it YET. The law was not introduced until 1962 by Woodrow Lloyd. furthermore it says the The Saskatchewan program proved a success (that's only one Province and success is more than arguable in hind-sight. It wasn't until 1966 that new legislation ws introduced to FORCE all provinces into HIDS cost-sharing. The Travesty that we now recognize as Canadian Healthcare did not come to fruition until 1984.
In the future please don't regurgitate Progressive talking points...there are just too many of us with graduate degrees that are truly educated and aware for you to pull this mediocrity of argument (garbage) that you espouse/expound.

Posted by: RedLizard64 | March 8, 2010 2:00 PM | Report abuse

What else is new with this bumbling, mumbling, I can see Russia from Alaska foreign experience, background in communications, not law or business, could not complete 1 term, ONE TERM of Governor for the 3rd LEAST, THIRD LEAST populated state in the U.S., cannot tell a report what periodicals she reads on a regular basis. Yet, there are still those who think this woman can be in a position of leadership in this country. For those people, they lose all credibility supporting someone without credibility. Talking about making the U.S. unsafe! Yeah, let's elect this moron into office. What a dingbat. Why can't someone close to this wingnut tell her HOW BAD she looks and sounds. She is pitiful. Come on, even those of you who support this dodo bird have to admit she is NOT elected official material. Not what so ever!!!

Posted by: ajackson3 | March 8, 2010 2:00 PM | Report abuse

I swear it's like comedy porn...

From mugging for the camera, the winking, the "Youbetchas", the multiple versions she tells of every anecdote...

Our Sarah is a laugh-a-minute gal.

Posted by: willandjansdad1 | March 8, 2010 1:59 PM | Report abuse

Even at age 4, Sarah could easliy have written "No socialized care for my brother" on her hand and flashed it at her BFF Jehova.

Problem solved.

Posted by: willandjansdad1 | March 8, 2010 1:55 PM | Report abuse

idesign wrote:

"Before the lefties get bent out of shape perhaps a little context is needed. Canada did not have a socialized medical system for much of the 1960’s. The “Medicare Act’ was enacted in 1966 and it wasn’t until 1972 that we had ‘universal health care’ throughout the country. Even then, it covered only in hospital care – didn’t cover physicians or any other service. We didn’t get universal ‘free’ health care until the Canada Health Act of 1984. So, in short, the care Palin and her family received in the 60’s was not socialized."

Nor does she mention anything about "free" healthcare. You have to remember though, we are preaching to people who most likely earn minimum wage here and not because they necessarily warrant that much income, but rather because legally someone has to pay at least that much to them.

I don't believe they are intelligent enough to get it, or actually read what Palin wrote. And to be honest, we really shouldn't have such high expectations of liberals anyway. This is what happens when parents don't spend enough time with their teens.

Posted by: HughGKnutts | March 8, 2010 1:55 PM | Report abuse

HughGKnutts,

So as not to be "bated," let me ask you to which version of the story are you referring. The foot-burn-treated in Canada story, or the foot-burn-treated in the US story? Or are you claiming both are true?

Posted by: AllenAllen | March 8, 2010 1:55 PM | Report abuse

Give her a break! It's hard to be evil without lying!

Posted by: AllenAllen | March 8, 2010 1:52 PM | Report abuse

idesign wrote: "I love how she baits the left. Health care was not yet socialized in Canada when she was 6. LOL.
I already saw on Twitter, Markos and the other kooks going ballistic over Palin saying that.
She lives in their heads....
"

Good point, it's almost sad to see how the left wing kooks are falling for this. It shows their lack of reading comprehension and lower than normal IQ levels.

What's even funnier, reading some of the left wing unhinged comments, is all the $7.25 per hour "assumptions" they are making.

If they actually read the quote of Palin, no where does she mention going over the border for "free" healthcare.

If that wasn't enough to show how dishonest and unhinged the left are, they completely negate the nation that when we are young, we don't choose where we go for treatment or whether it's free or not. In fact, I suspect most children have no idea what "socialized medicine is."

It's a reminder of why there really should be a minimum wage. Some people are never going to be able to do much more thinking than whether the "beeper" means it's time to flip the burger on the grill.

Posted by: HughGKnutts | March 8, 2010 1:51 PM | Report abuse

Why should anyone be surprised by this? This is the same politician who claimed she had opposed the "Bridge to Nowhere" even though she had lobbied furiously for it; set up a panel in 2007 to come up with ways to cope with the damage caused by climate change, but now sees no evidence of such damage; and continues to insist that the House health care bill would establish death panels even though no such provision was ever written.

Bottom line: Sarah Palin will say whatever she thinks it takes to get elected, make money, or win over an audience. Principles have nothing whatsoever to do with it.

Posted by: DCSteve1 | March 8, 2010 1:50 PM | Report abuse

"Before the lefties get bent out of shape perhaps a little context is needed. Canada did not have a socialized medical system for much of the 1960’s. The “Medicare Act’ was enacted in 1966 and it wasn’t until 1972 that we had ‘universal health care’ throughout the country. Even then, it covered only in hospital care – didn’t cover physicians or any other service. We didn’t get universal ‘free’ health care until the Canada Health Act of 1984. So, in short, the care Palin and her family received in the 60’s was not socialized.

She's in your heads...LOL

Posted by: idesign | March 8, 2010 1:48 PM | Report abuse

Apologize for what?
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I am waiting for all the Palin apologists.

Posted by: mortified469 | March 8, 2010 1:41 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: 2partsgin | March 8, 2010 1:46 PM | Report abuse

I guess we need to send an army of "journalists" up there to research the medical records when she was 6 years old...sheesh

Posted by: d1carter | March 8, 2010 1:45 PM | Report abuse

Aiden3 wrote: "Here's your chance to convince some people...give us one thing that makes her a fraud and one thing that makes her a hypocrite. I'll wait..."

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1) Fraud: Obviously flustered by the question after her talk, Sarah Palin was unable to answer why she wrote the things she stands for on the palm of her hand. It was 3 days later that she went "Oh! Well, God did it too!"

2) Fraud: Sarah quit her job as Governor, which essentially defrauded her constituents out of the person they voted for. Somehow, resigning from office halfway through her term is a solution to her.

3) Fraud: Sarah Palin invoked"Death Squads" when she referred to Obama's health care plan. That was actually her biggest fraud.

4) Hypocrite: The core reason for her resignation seems to be that the national media has been critical of her every move and have examined her odd lies, mistruths and seeming lack of understanding about national politics. Sarah Palin has been so publicly upset by it, that she has turned to attacking the media. Before that however, this is what she had to say in regards to Hillary Clinton: "Fair or unfair—and I do think that it’s a more concentrated criticism that Hillary gets on so many fronts; I think that’s unfortunate. But fair or unfair, I think she does herself a disservice to even mention it, really. You have to plow through that and know what you’re getting into. I say this with all due respect to Hillary Clinton and to her experience and to her passion for changing the status quo. But when I hear a statement like that coming from a women candidate with any kind of perceived whine about that excess criticism or a sharper microscope put on her, I think, man, that doesn’t do us any good."

Did you have to wait too long?

Posted by: swatkins1 | March 8, 2010 1:44 PM | Report abuse

The right-wingnut d0vche baggers who post falsehoods about the history of Canada's health care are an example of why I don't believe any "facts" they cite. Over the past dozen years I've researched several hundred "facts" cites by right-wingnuts, ranging from foreign policy to common law to scientific findings. What I have found, without exception, is that every "fact" is either taken out of context, completely fabricated, blown totally out of proportion --as in the exception that proves the rule, or manufactured by a bought-and-paid-for research. If caliguous or Idesign proclaim that the sky is blue or that the sun rises in the east and sets i the West, I recommend that you get at least two separate opinions before using that "information."

Posted by: sasquatchbigfoot | March 8, 2010 1:44 PM | Report abuse

She was using Alanis Morisette's definition, cuz she hearts Canada that much.
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Why is that ironic? Maybe she doesn't know what the word 'ironic' means.

Posted by: sacomment | March 8, 2010 12:03 PM

Posted by: 2partsgin | March 8, 2010 1:44 PM | Report abuse

The obvious irony, which is apparently lost on both the reporter and most of the commenters, is that 40 years ago, before Canada had adopted single payer, an American might prefer Canadian health care, while today, Canadian Premiers fly to America for heart surgery. It's amazing how blind hatred of Sarah Palin begets a more generalized blindness.

Posted by: LTW1 | March 8, 2010 1:44 PM | Report abuse

More contradictions and hypocrisy from the Teabagger Queen - laughing all the way to the bank!
ROFL

Posted by: angie12106 | March 8, 2010 1:43 PM | Report abuse

The Calgary Herald notes too that "it's not exactly anybody's political choice where they receive medical attention when they're less than five years old." It should be obvious to the Post and its comment section, but... I'll leave that one alone. But yeah, Palin should have stopped her parents from taking her brother to Canada because they had just implemented a nationalized health care system (depending on the year -- the "Medical Care Act" was enacted in 1966, it wasn’t until 1972 that universal health care could be found throughout the Canada.)

Posted by: 2partsgin | March 8, 2010 1:42 PM | Report abuse

Her base loves her, liberals despise her – and the news just love it! Everytime her name comes up, it's in the news. Why? Because she sells. Whether you like her or not, you read whatever the news prints about her. why? You are here right now, reading this post, because she’s in your head. ROFLOL

Posted by: idesign | March 8, 2010 1:41 PM | Report abuse

Ole Sarah just tailors her comments to the attending audience. I am waiting for all the Palin apologists.

Skagway, now that is the place for Sarah. I've been there and to Juneau and you want to talk about hicksville.


Posted by: mortified469 | March 8, 2010 1:41 PM | Report abuse

"I think, isn't that kind of ironic now. Zooming over the border, getting health care from Canada."

What do you expect. This is the same woman who wants credit for not choosing to abort her Downs Syndrome fetus and yet would deny every other woman that choice. For simple-minds, the world is a simple place with simple choices. It's just that simple.

Posted by: thebobbob | March 8, 2010 1:39 PM | Report abuse

Frosty... Educate yourself before replying:

The beginning of coverage
It was not until 1946 that the first Canadian province introduced near universal health coverage. Saskatchewan had long suffered a shortage of doctors, leading to the creation of municipal doctor programs in the early twentieth century in which a town would subsidize a doctor to practice there. Soon after, groups of communities joined to open union hospitals under a similar model. There had thus been a long history of government involvement in Saskatchewan health care, and a significant section of it was already controlled and paid for by the government. In 1946, Tommy Douglas' Co-operative Commonwealth Federation government in Saskatchewan passed the Saskatchewan Hospitalization Act, which guaranteed free hospital care for much of the population. Douglas had hoped to provide universal health care, but the province did not have the money.
In 1950, Alberta created a program similar to Saskatchewan's. Alberta, however, created Medical Services (Alberta) Incorporated (MS(A)I) in 1948 to provide prepaid health services. This scheme eventually provided medical coverage to over 90% of the population.[30]
In 1957, the federal government passed the Hospital Insurance and Diagnostic Services Act to fund 50% of the cost of such programs for any provincial government that adopted them. The HIDS Act outlined five conditions: public administration, comprehensiveness, universality, portability, and accessibility. These remain the pillars of the Canada Health Act.
By 1961, all ten provinces had agreed to start HIDS Act programs. In Saskatchewan, the act meant that half of their current program would now be paid for by the federal government. Premier Woodrow Lloyd decided to use this freed money to extend the health coverage to also include physicians. Despite the sharp disagreement of the Saskatchewan College of Physicians and Surgeons, Lloyd introduced the law in 1962 after defeating the Saskatchewan Doctors' Strike in July.

Posted by: cmagu | March 8, 2010 1:38 PM | Report abuse

To all the Palin apologists: Universal (90%+) government subsidized health care was in effect in all ten Canadian provinces by 1961 as part of the HIDS Act. Next time please do some research before re-telling of some (errant) talking point.

Posted by: VoxPop | March 8, 2010 1:36 PM | Report abuse

GWB in a skirt...and we thought this moronic level would never again be achieved...

Posted by: ebabin | March 8, 2010 1:36 PM | Report abuse

The fact they she is on the record telling two versions of the story...

That's fraudulent...

Posted by: willandjansdad1

They took him to Whitehorse for emergency treatment. And then later took him to Juneau for hospital admission and rehab.
both “versions” of the story are completely true.LOL

Posted by: idesign | March 8, 2010 1:36 PM | Report abuse

Some history: Sarah Palin was born in 1964 - 6 years after the "Hospital Insurance and Diagnostic Services Act of 1957. This shared the costs of covering hospital services. By the start date (July 1, 1958) five provinces—Newfoundland, Manitoba, Saskatchewan, Alberta, and British Columbia - had programs in place which could receive the federal funds. By January 1, 1961, when Quebec finally joined, all provinces had universal coverage for hospital care." So when she was 6, the programs were well in place.

To Caligulous - unless you've first hand knowledge of how health care works in Canada (I do, I've been living here since 1974) we don't need your uninformed comments - our system works just fine - thank you - at least when a Canadian gets sick, they don't lose their home trying to pay for it. Also, we have a lot of Americans coming north of the border for health care as we have some of the most up-to-date diagnostic systems available anywhere. In fact, Sick Children's Hospital in Toronto is world-renowned for it's treatment and care of kids with cutting-edge treatments and technologies. It really makes my head hurt everytime I see a comment denegrating the Canadian system by people who have no idea of what they are talking about.

Posted by: mairiparris | March 8, 2010 1:32 PM | Report abuse

That explains it all. She learned how to freeload on other people's tax dollars at Mum & Dad's knee. By the way, her family is also eligible for Indian health care since Toddy Boy is part native. Rest assured that the whole Palin clan is sucking on that teat as well.

Posted by: Gatsby10 | March 8, 2010 1:32 PM | Report abuse

Palin lived in Skagway from 64-69. In 1966 the Medical Care Act extended cost-sharing to allow each province to establish a universal health care plan. She was 3 months old in 64 so if she "remembers" the incident it must have been towards the end of her stay which means...Yes they did cross over for the Socialized Commie medical care.

That's hypocricy...

The fact they she is on the record telling two versions of the story...

That's fraudulent...

I guess when you're co-equal with God it's OK...

Posted by: willandjansdad1 | March 8, 2010 1:32 PM | Report abuse

Hook, line, and sinker.........

You betcha!

Posted by: idesign | March 8, 2010 1:30 PM | Report abuse

Whoever was idiotic enough to say that the “Libs are absolutely obsessed with Sarah Palin” has it exactly backwards and is obviously obsessed with her themselves. The only people obsessed with Sarah Palin are Sarah Palin herself and the usual right wing Tea Bagging deadbeats who are stupid enough hang on her every retarded utterance. To all normal human beings she’s a sad pathetic joke whose only purpose in life is to advertise to the world that she’s the stupidest person in the history of Alaska and far beyond.

Posted by: vztownes | March 8, 2010 1:26 PM | Report abuse

Whoever was idiotic enough to say that the “Libs are absolutely obsessed with Sarah Palin” has it exactly backwards and is obviously obsessed with her themselves. The only people obsessed with Sarah Palin are Sarah Palin herself and the usual right wing Tea Bagging deadbeats who are stupid enough hang on her every retarded utterance. To all normal human beings she’s a sad pathetic joke whose only purpose in life is to advertise to the world that she’s the stupidest person in the history of Alaska and far beyond.

Posted by: vztownes | March 8, 2010 1:25 PM | Report abuse

Now that's funny! Equally funny is how conservatives are so obsessed with her too. She must be 4th grade porn for them!!!!!

Posted by: swatkins1

Its so funny seeing how Palin gets the liberals' panties in such a snit.
She is like sunlight to Dracula!!!

Posted by: idesign | March 8, 2010 1:24 PM | Report abuse

Here's your chance to convince some people...give us one thing that makes her a fraud and one thing that makes her a hypocrite. I'll wait...
Posted by: Aiden3

"Palin has also told an alternate version of the story that had her family traveling south by ferry to Juneau from Skagway for treatment of her brother's burned foot, rather than to Canada, according to a 2007 report posted by the Skagway News...."

There's your fraud Aiden...Was that quick enough?

Posted by: willandjansdad1 | March 8, 2010 1:20 PM | Report abuse

Words will do no justice. On every level from Tripp Palin's 1/100th Native American getting free govt health care because he is 1/100th Native America to her "hustling" over the border to get free health care. Imagine if a Mexican had said that they were "hustling"over the border..WOW

Posted by: titilayo3 | March 8, 2010 1:18 PM | Report abuse

idesign wrote: "The Libs are absolutely obsessed with Sarah Palin, She must be Liberal Kryptonite !!!!!"

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Now that's funny! Equally funny is how conservatives are so obsessed with her too. She must be 4th grade porn for them!!!!!

Posted by: swatkins1 | March 8, 2010 1:17 PM | Report abuse

Before everyone gets their knickers in a twist over this, remember that it is almost certain that her family paid cash for the care that her brother received in Whitehorse. I know this because I remember my parents taking me to the doctor in the Yukon in the '70's and paying cash. At that time the single payer system that Americans like to associate with Canada did not yet exist.

Posted by: Fr0sty | March 8, 2010 1:10 PM | Report abuse

I love how she baits the left. Health care was not yet socialized in Canada when she was 6. LOL.
I already saw on Twitter, Markos and the other kooks going ballistic over Palin saying that.
She lives in their heads....


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Posted by: idesign | March 8, 2010 1:07 PM | Report abuse

What's sadder, the fact that she's a complete fraud & a hypocrite, or, that her followers won't believe this factoid about their queen? Her fellow 'flat-earthers' pick at her buffet of ignorance. Picking what they like to believe about her and dismissing all of the rest that contradicts their preconstructed fantasy that surrounds her.

Posted by: dascaletta1
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Here's your chance to convince some people...give us one thing that makes her a fraud and one thing that makes her a hypocrite. I'll wait...

Posted by: Aiden3 | March 8, 2010 1:03 PM | Report abuse


The Libs are absolutely obsessed with Sarah Palin, She must be Liberal Kryptonite !!!!!

Posted by: idesign | March 8, 2010 1:01 PM | Report abuse

I am surprised, well, maybe not, at all the hate expressed in the comments. How about addressing the issue in the article?

For any of us to intelligently comment it would be nice if the WaPo would include some facts that might shed light on why they went to Canada for health care.
Just for starters : did it happen at at time when Canada's national health care system was in effect (The Canada Health Act dates to 1984, the Medical Care Act, the first countrywide health insurance plan for Canada was passed in 1966, while Palin says they went for health care to Canada "in the '60s"), what kind of medical facilities were available where she lived vs. where they went for care in Canada, same comparison specifically for the kind of treatment they obtained in Canada, and how close did they live to Canada?

Yes, I know, this comment is not P.C.

Posted by: observer31 | March 8, 2010 1:01 PM | Report abuse

I suppose it is an impossibility for the writer and the commentators that perhaps more than one injury could occur to a child during the formative years. And last I checked, my ankle was not my foot. But hey, I suppose that "factoid" was missed as well.

As to traveling to Canada for health care as a child, it's only newsworthy because of the source - it sounds more like a "good ole days" story when you didn't have to go through 7 levels of customs to travel 15 miles for a band-aid just because the ownership of the territory changed. As for this being some sort of plug for socialized medicine, I find it quite a leap of logic.

Posted by: nodeadends | March 8, 2010 1:00 PM | Report abuse

I love all the blind Palin haters calling her a hypocrite. She was a child in the 60's; should she have defied her parents, put her foot down and told them that there's no way she's following them to Canada for medical treatment? Too many of you are Palin haters and don't even know why...you just follow like sheep.

Posted by: Aiden3 | March 8, 2010 1:00 PM | Report abuse

Um, STUPID defines the commenters here who don't instantly realize that the IRONY is that when Palin was 6, Canada had healthcare worth traveling for because it was NOT YET SOCIALIZED whereas now, it sucks and nobody in the US would even consider going there for anything.

Duh.

Posted by: caligulous | March 8, 2010 12:57 PM | Report abuse

She 's got to be as dumb as a brick. Not hypocritical, simply dumb.

Posted by: jato11 | March 8, 2010 12:56 PM | Report abuse

If this is true, then it is clear that Canada's Socialist medicine did very great damage to at least one person's mind.

Posted by: daweeni | March 8, 2010 12:42 PM | Report abuse

Alanis Morissette is Canadian, so perhaps they just have a different definition of 'ironic' above the 48th parallel.

Posted by: yellojkt | March 8, 2010 12:41 PM | Report abuse

People, please quit using "retard" with Palin; it offends us that are always late or developmentally challenged: ie, if I am late for work today and late for work tomorrow, I am "retardy." For the folks that support Ms. Palin, I view them as retardy as well, but I am too polite to say it.

Also, I think we need a bumper sticker with Munch's "The Scream" on one side with "PALIN' FOR PALIN" screaming out next to him.

Posted by: RogerRamjet2 | March 8, 2010 12:30 PM | Report abuse

What's sadder, the fact that she's a complete fraud & a hypocrite, or, that her followers won't believe this factoid about their queen? Her fellow 'flat-earthers' pick at her buffet of ignorance. Picking what they like to believe about her and dismissing all of the rest that contradicts their preconstructed fantasy that surrounds her.

Posted by: dascaletta1 | March 8, 2010 12:27 PM | Report abuse

The depths of her hypocrisy knows no limit. And the mainstream media continues to cover this moron as if she were relevant. Just because a few delusional retards think she represents American values doesn't mean that the Washington Post and other MSM outlets need to fawn over this hypocrite ever time she passes gas.

Posted by: VeloStrummer | March 8, 2010 12:21 PM | Report abuse

And the word for people who believe in Palin is "retarded."

Posted by: sasquatchbigfoot | March 8, 2010 12:12 PM | Report abuse

It's foolish to think there is a limit to Palin's stupidity or hubris.

Posted by: geezjan | March 8, 2010 12:11 PM | Report abuse

*head smack*

Her hypocrisy and simple lack of knowledge is just stunning. Just when I think she can't dumb it down any more...

Posted by: janeway1 | March 8, 2010 12:09 PM | Report abuse

"Ironic"?
No, dear, the word you're looking for is "hypocritical".

Posted by: gmcduluth | March 8, 2010 12:07 PM | Report abuse
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Exactly

Posted by: scrappyc20001 | March 8, 2010 12:09 PM | Report abuse

"Ironic"?
No, dear, the word you're looking for is "hypocritical".

Posted by: gmcduluth | March 8, 2010 12:07 PM | Report abuse

Why is that ironic? Maybe she doesn't know what the word 'ironic' means.

Posted by: sacomment | March 8, 2010 12:03 PM | Report abuse

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