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Va. attorney general Cuccinelli denies being a 'birther'

By Garance Franke-Ruta and Rosalind S. Helderman
Virginia Attorney General Kenneth T. Cuccinelli denied accusations Monday that he is a "birther," saying that a recording of him saying it is not "beyond the realm of possibility" President Obama was born in Kenya reflected "a hypothetical legal answer" to a question.

"I absolutely believe that President Obama was born in America. I don't buy into the claims that he wasn't," Cuccinelli told The Post in a statement.

On Monday, the Virginia politics blog NotLarrySabato posted audio of Cuccinelli that was recorded during the post-election transition period:

"What can we do about Obama and the birth certificate thing?" an unnamed man asks Cuccinelli in the recording.

"Well, it will get tested in my view when someone -- he signs a law, and someone is convicted of violating it, and one of their defenses will be, 'It's not a law because someone qualified to be president didn't sign it,' " Cuccinelli responded.

As they continued speaking, the man noted, "Because we are talking about the possibility that he was not born in America."

"Right," replied Cuccinelli. "But at the same time under Rule 11, Federal Rule 11, we gotta have proof of it."

"How can we get proof?" asked the man.

"Well, that's a good question," Cuccinelli said. "Not one I've thought a lot about -- because it hasn't been part of my campaign. Someone is going to have to come forward with nailed-down testimony that he was born in Place B, wherever that is. You know, the speculation is Kenya. And that doesn't seem beyond the realm of possibility."

Cuccinelli, a social conservative, has gained national attention in recent weeks after he told state universities that they should remove language dealing with sexual orientation from campus anti-discrimination policies. Given that backdrop, the recording quickly ricocheted around the political Web.

"On the tape, I was asked a hypothetical legal question, and I gave a hypothetical legal answer in response," Cuccinelli said in his statement. "As I said previously, this issue was not a part of my campaign, and it is not part of what I am doing now as attorney general."

By Garance Franke-Ruta and Rosalind S. Helderman  |  March 15, 2010; 4:21 PM ET
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It's sad the lengths Cuccinelli went to, to answer that "hypothetical" question instead of just dismissing it outright like any normal, sane person with average intelligence would. Obama is the president. He was sworn in. Get over it.

Posted by: MarilynManson | March 16, 2010 8:40 AM | Report abuse

And this guy graduated law school.

Posted by: jckdoors | March 16, 2010 8:24 AM | Report abuse

Now that he is done bashing the gays with that idiotic attempt to mandate discrimination against gays on state college campuses he is taking up the cause of the birthers. This is what happens when you vote a right winged nut in as attorney general. As conservatives often love to point out, elections have consequences. For all you Virginia independents and conservative Democrats who voted for this clown you only have yourselves to blame. He could not have gotten into office riding the far right vote alone. He also received the votes of middle of the road voters trying to send a "message" to Obama. Gee thanks folks. We are going to have to put up with four years of this crap.

Posted by: da55 | March 16, 2010 5:47 AM | Report abuse

Jon Stewart has to be loving this. Virginia is a laughing stock again. Perhaps Virgil Goode can help him out as he was one of the original "Birthers". I suspect the next thing this clown will do is try to make slavery legal again which I think would be a real boon to the Republicans here and everywhere in that everyone will finally know for sure where they stand. White power indeed.

Posted by: purveyors | March 16, 2010 5:31 AM | Report abuse

Cuccinelli is the worst state attorney general in the country for pursuing intolerance and nonsense because of his social conservatism. Cuccinelli was showing stupidity by saying that there was a possibility that President Obama wasn't born in the United States. Universities must not repeal their policies which prohibit discrimination on the basis of sexual orientation, gender identity, or both.

Posted by: LibertyForAll | March 15, 2010 10:20 PM | Report abuse

Cuccinelli is the worst state attorney general in the country for pursuing intolerance and nonsense because of his social conservatism. Cuccinelli was showing stupidity by saying that there was a possibility that President Obama wasn't born in the United States. Universities must not repeal their policies which prohibit discrimination on the basis of sexual orientation, gender identity, or both.

Posted by: LibertyForAll | March 15, 2010 10:19 PM | Report abuse

It is embarrassing to be caught in a moment of blatant pandering, particularly when the object of the pandering is the lunatic fringe.

As a DC resident, I find it to be a refreshing change to have the government on the other side of the Potomac to be the butt of jokes from sea to shining sea. Keep up the "good work" McDonnell and Cuccinelli - who knew that the infamous thesis would be a precursor to so much hilarity.

Posted by: demostheneswashdc | March 15, 2010 9:30 PM | Report abuse

How does anybody get that he is a crazy birther from the facts that he speculates that the president of the United States is from Kenya and he tries to dream up ways his fellow crazies can violate the law and then blame it on their crazy conspiracy theories? Isn't that what hypotheticals are for?

This guy was actually elected to office?

Posted by: msame | March 15, 2010 8:45 PM | Report abuse

How does anybody get that he is a crazy birther from the facts that he speculates that the president of the United States is from Kenya and he tries to dream up ways his fellow crazies can violate the law and then blame it on their crazy conspiracy theories? Isn't that what hypotheticals are for?

This guy was actually elected to office?

Posted by: msame | March 15, 2010 8:44 PM | Report abuse

I think Gonzo and this guy should get together and start a law firm that represents "Star Fleet". There are sinister forces loose in the universe and Captain Kirk needs their help NOW. (They must be forceful in their fight against the faction trying to implant belly button computer chips).

Posted by: hoser3 | March 15, 2010 8:43 PM | Report abuse

How does anybody get that he is a crazy birther from the facts that he speculates that the president of the United States is from Kenya and he tries to dream up ways his fellow crazies can violate the law and then blame it on their crazy conspiracy theories? Isn't that what hypotheticals are for?

This guy was actually elected to office?

Posted by: msame | March 15, 2010 8:43 PM | Report abuse

Much to the chagrin of the nation, it's starting to look like Virginia has lost all sense of it's own history and what it once represented as a driving force in the development of this country. With the adoption of near lunacy as law and the rejection of all that it "has been" I will not be surprised when Virginia textbooks also fail to mention Thomas Jefferson, and the politicians bulldoze Monticello so another gun friendly bar can be built.

Posted by: hoser3 | March 15, 2010 8:29 PM | Report abuse

sorry, its off the topic, but we need urgent help.

If you cannot help us, please send this to someone who can.

The women, both frail, were tortured to death at their farm in Allenridge in the Free State on March 6 2009. According to the SAPS' forensic evidence, the Lotter mother and daughter died excruciatingly painful deaths: First tortured by being stabbed with broken glass bottles into their vaginas; one of the women also had her breasts cut off while she was still alive – and then both women’s blood, police forensic experts found, had been used to paint the ANC’s anti-Afrikaner hate slogan ‘Kill the Boer Kill the Farmer’ on the walls of their homestead.

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Did you know there is an onslaught on the white race in South Africa (silent war), white European people are being killed by the thousands since 1994, and no-one is doing anything about it, plus you wont see this on any news channel.

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Posted by: webmonster | March 15, 2010 8:06 PM | Report abuse


sorry, its off the topic, but we need urgent help.

If you cannot help us, please send this to someone who can.

The women, both frail, were tortured to death at their farm in Allenridge in the Free State on March 6 2009. According to the SAPS' forensic evidence, the Lotter mother and daughter died excruciatingly painful deaths: First tortured by being stabbed with broken glass bottles into their vaginas; one of the women also had her breasts cut off while she was still alive – and then both women’s blood, police forensic experts found, had been used to paint the ANC’s anti-Afrikaner hate slogan ‘Kill the Boer Kill the Farmer’ on the walls of their homestead.

See all other shocking facts here:
http://censorbugbear-reports.blogspot.com

Did you know there is an onslaught on the white race in South Africa (silent war), white European people are being killed by the thousands since 1994, and no-one is doing anything about it, plus you wont see this on any news channel.

thank you

Posted by: webmonster | March 15, 2010 8:05 PM | Report abuse

It is very pathetic when the only thing you have to offer the people you are supposedly serving, is to smear anyone if it means you'll get reelected. Why are Americans so tolerant of these phonies who really are only in it for themselves?
Civilized and decent humans feel no need to smear others with whom they disagree. One merely has to PROVE their point of contention to be civil. They don't have to beat their rivals to death. The Republican party has become so effete in the types of people they pick to represent their party, that many of us who used to vote for them, feel disenfranchised. Ronald Reagan was a pretty decent man and I don't recall him savaging anyone's reputation for the sake of political one-up-man-ship. There will be another generation of Republicans coming up one day and they will kick the butts of these foolish smear merchants. We cannot abide such ignorance in our public officials if we are to survive.

Posted by: papafritz571 | March 15, 2010 7:47 PM | Report abuse

In addition to this recording of cultivating the 'birther' crowd, Cuccinelli also told seniors that won't get his child a social security number because he believes "it's being used to track you". He really makes sure he has time to drink eight Cups of Crazy every day, doesn't he?

Does the AG have proof of this nefarious tracking threat that he's not warning the general public about? Is the government tracking me right now? What about earlier today, when I bought a bagel? Or yesterday when I rode the Metro? What an amazingly evil-yet-efficient government we have.

Posted by: thingsthatshine | March 15, 2010 7:36 PM | Report abuse

Virginians are getting a taste of the kind of white trash that ends up in public office when conservatives are elected, and it has to be embarrassing for them to watch. Want a insulting, narrow-minded bigot of your very own? Vote Republican.

Posted by: rodneythecat | March 15, 2010 7:28 PM | Report abuse

Just offering a "hypothetical legal answer" but opinions offered by the VA AG should be tested in court because he's a guy who's from another planet, Planet X. There's a lot of speculation about that. Now I can't prove that right now, but as soon as someone can come forward with nailed down testimony that Uranus is his home base, then you know, we can move forward on that. Because that isn't beyond the realm of possibility. You know, while we're investigating, we might as well find out if he's a secret Marxist, Socialist, Jihadist, terrorist, Muslim, anti-Christ, bathroom stall foot-tapper, not that there's any evidence of that... as far as I know. I mean, he never said he was, so I take him at his word. Not that there's anything wrong with that. And anything I might have said on tape was just me talking aloud, and well, it was just a hypothetical question so I gave a hypothetical answer and just picked a planet at random. I mean I started to pick Pluto but that's not a planet anymore, so-o-o-o-o-o, "Uranus" it was. Hypothetical. Don't quote me. Please don't quote me.

Posted by: jade_7243 | March 15, 2010 7:21 PM | Report abuse

Flip, flop. Flip, flop ...

Posted by: Route1 | March 15, 2010 7:14 PM | Report abuse

So then technically the AG is a lying dirt bag.

Posted by: vztownes | March 15, 2010 7:00 PM | Report abuse

I put forth the hypothesis that Cuccinelli is a dirtbag.
Of course, I am only speaking hypothetically.

Posted by: meand2 | March 15, 2010 5:57 PM | Report abuse

Ken Kookynutty. Nothing more to say.

Posted by: koolkat_1960 | March 15, 2010 5:57 PM | Report abuse

@pmendez: If you said the world was flat, we would question either your sanity or your ability to deal with facts.

Insanity and sub-moronic intelligence are not qualities you want in a public official. OK, maybe YOU want those things. But most people don't.

Cuccinelli is definitely insane. His number one "law-enforcement" priority is kicking gay students and faculty off Virginia college campuses. But he's not completely stupid. He knows when to lie about his true beliefs.

Posted by: bigbrother1 | March 15, 2010 5:35 PM | Report abuse

If "Birthers" are so crazy, and if the question of Obama's citizenship is 100% settled, why all the fuss?

If I said the world was flat, would cartographers try to ruin my career?

Posted by: pmendez | March 15, 2010 5:21 PM | Report abuse

His lips are moving...

Posted by: ceebee2 | March 15, 2010 5:18 PM | Report abuse

Slippery little fellow, he has it both ways. Either he's a sly cynic catering to the crazy fringe, or he will tell the truth only when caught in a falsehood. Great character for an Attorney General.

When the Dixiecrats were in the Democratic Party they had to show some restraint. But as Republicans they can be as crazy as they like. God help the USA.

Posted by: Citizen0 | March 15, 2010 4:57 PM | Report abuse

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