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Obama's 17-minute, 2,500-word response to woman's claim of being 'over-taxed'

by Anne E. Kornblut

CHARLOTTE - Even by President Obama's loquacious standards, an answer he gave here on health care Friday was a doozy.

Toward the end of a question-and-answer session with workers at an advanced battery technology manufacturer, a woman named Doris stood to ask the president whether it was a "wise decision to add more taxes to us with the health care" package.

"We are over-taxed as it is," Doris said bluntly.

Obama started out feisty. "Well, let's talk about that, because this is an area where there's been just a whole lot of misinformation, and I'm going to have to work hard over the next several months to clean up a lot of the misapprehensions that people have," the president said.

He then spent the next 17 minutes and 12 seconds lulling the crowd into a daze. His discursive answer - more than 2,500 words long -- wandered from topic to topic, including commentary on the deficit, pay-as-you-go rules passed by Congress, Congressional Budget Office reports on Medicare waste, COBRA coverage, the Recovery Act and Federal Medical Assistance Percentages (he referred to this last item by its inside-the-Beltway name, "F-Map"). He talked about the notion of eliminating foreign aid (not worth it, he said). He invoked Warren Buffett, earmarks and the payroll tax that funds Medicare (referring to it, in fluent Washington lingo, as "FICA").

Always fond of lists, Obama ticked off his approach to health care -- twice. "Number one is that we are the only -- we have been, up until last week, the only advanced country that allows 50 million of its citizens to not have any health insurance," he said.

A few minutes later he got to the next point, which seemed awfully similar to the first. "Number two, you don't know who might end up being in that situation," he said, then carried on explaining further still.

"Point number three is that the way insurance companies have been operating, even if you've got health insurance you don't always know what you got, because what has been increasingly the practice is that if you're not lucky enough to work for a big company that is a big pool, that essentially is almost a self-insurer, then what's happening is, is you're going out on the marketplace, you may be buying insurance, you think you're covered, but then when you get sick they decide to drop the insurance right when you need it," Obama continued, winding on with the answer.

Halfway through, an audience member on the riser yawned.

But Obama wasn't finished. He had a "final point," before starting again with another list -- of three points.

"What we said is, number one, we'll have the basic principle that everybody gets coverage," he said, before launching into the next two points, for a grand total of seven.

His wandering approach might not matter if Obama weren't being billed as the chief salesman of the health-care overhaul. Public opinion on the bill remains divided, and Democratic officials are planning to send Obama into the country to persuade wary citizens that it will work for them in the long run.

It was not evident that he changed any minds at Friday's event. The audience sat politely, but people in the back of the room began to wander off.

Even Obama seemed to recognize that he had gone on too long. He apologized -- in keeping with the spirit of the moment, not once, but twice. "Boy, that was a long answer. I'm sorry," he said, drawing nervous laughter that sounded somewhat like relief as he wrapped up.

But, he said: "I hope I answered your question."

By Anne E. Kornblut  |  April 2, 2010; 3:01 PM ET
Categories:  44 The Obama Presidency , Health Care  
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How much better the world would be if only stupidity was painful. Here's a special message to every single one of you claiming that Obama's turning us into socialists: please stop embarrassing yourselves in front of your fellow citizens, and stop embarrassing America on the world stage. You couldn't define what socialism is if Karl Marx himself handed you the Cliff's Notes explanation.

You also clearly don't understand how deficits work or else you wouldn't be making the laughably false claim that Obama has spent more than any other president before him (hint: decreased revenues count every bit as much towards the deficit as increased spending).

You have no clue about macroeconomics or you'd understand the value of anti-cyclical stimulus in alleviating the worst pains of a recession (something even Republicans agreed with until it became more important to oppose Democrats than to work for the peoples' benefit).

You want to know why progressives are so condescending towards you? Because you're *choosing* to be ignorant. It has nothing to do with your political beliefs and everything to do with your inability to recognize that you're being radicalized by a sustained campaign of misinformation. Do you have any desire or motivation whatsoever to fact check what you hear? You'd really be surprised at how much of what you "know" is wrong. Then again that requires you to want to know the truth, as opposed to wanting to learn more talking points to slam those scummy libruls with. The fact is you're exactly the same as the "Obamabots" you despise - you hear what you want to hear and ignore the rest.

And that's all I got to say about that.

Posted by: BigTunaTim | April 9, 2010 5:05 PM | Report abuse

Quit your whining. We are probably the least taxed and put upon people in the world, maybe in history. Are you willing to give up decent roads, national defense, the doctors, mecahnics, nurses, and sales clerks that have been educated in public schools and now serve you well. If a disaster hits your community, will you assure me that you will not complain if the federal gvoernment gives no help at all? When you feel those bad heart pains or have a bad accident will you promise to use berries and herbs as a cure rahter than go to the emergency room? Are you willing to spare me your health bills by losing some weight?

Folks, if the tax bite really hurt, I could feel sorry for you; but as long as you have a car or two, a roof over your head, maybe even a house that is too large for you, decent clothes, excellent food, cable TV, electronic gadgets to keep you in touch with whatever you imagine you have to be in touch with, I will play my violin instead. Grow up!

Posted by: rcr2 | April 9, 2010 3:34 PM | Report abuse

How will it work when small business owners decide they don't want to pay the extra .9 percent and keep their incomes low enough to avoid the extra tax? I can use a few extra days off anyway. I might have to turn away sales to keep revenue down, but I don't need a whole lot to keep my family fed and clothed and I have always wanted to lead a more leisurely lifestyle.

Posted by: krussell1 | April 9, 2010 2:59 PM | Report abuse

What an embarrassment this psuedo-president is. The man cannot even anwer a question about his massive socialistic pet project without a teleprompter. Lord have mercy on us all. We're going to need it when you think of all the damage he still has time to wreak on us.

Posted by: annclaire | April 9, 2010 2:21 PM | Report abuse

Obama is a BUFFOON- I don't care how much "learning" he SUPPOSEDLY has, since we've NEVER seen ANYTHING from his supposed college years; he is a true a$$ who just likes to hear the sound of his own voice.

He's a liar, a thief, a terrorist, and a usurper.

http://www.youtube.com/user/BLKMANHATESOBAMA?feature=mhw5#p/u/22/4t9DROzHrxU


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5EuFF4QyVts

Posted by: obamaalmighT | April 9, 2010 8:16 AM | Report abuse

Oh, and FICA is not "fluent Washington speak." Anyone who gets a paycheck would know that.

Posted by: buddha673 | April 8, 2010 2:25 PM | Report abuse

Maybe next time, he'll just answer "Let's git 'er done" and you'll be happy. If you're too bored with the details, then stay out of the debate.

Posted by: buddha673 | April 8, 2010 2:20 PM | Report abuse

Shorter Kornblut: Knowin' stuf is soo not kewl!

Posted by: howie14 | April 8, 2010 1:56 PM | Report abuse

After reading many of the comments it is no wonder that this once great Republic is now some form of socialist demokracy. The usurper president deliberately prattled because he has no other alternative other than to admit that the socialist, medical bill will accomplish anything positive for the citizens of the 50 states of the once Republic. November should provide the answer: VOTE OUT ALL INCUMBENTS!!!!!

Posted by: djdax17hotmailcom | April 8, 2010 1:16 PM | Report abuse

After reading many of the comments it is no wonder that this once great Republic is now some form of socialist demokracy. The usurper president deliberately prattled because he has no other alternative other than to admit that the socialist, medical bill will accomplish anything positive for the citizens of the 50 states of the once Republic. November should provide the answer: VOTE OUT ALL INCUMBENTS!!!!!

Posted by: djdax17hotmailcom | April 8, 2010 1:16 PM | Report abuse

After reading many of the comments it is no wonder that this once great Republic is now some form of socialist demokracy. The usurper president deliberately prattled because he has no other alternative other than to admit that the socialist, medical bill will accomplish anything positive for the citizens of the 50 states of the once Republic. November should provide the answer: VOTE OUT ALL INCUMBENTS!!!!!

Posted by: djdax17hotmailcom | April 8, 2010 1:14 PM | Report abuse

Let me get this straight: the biggest whine I've heard from the right on health care reform is that they don't know what's in it. Put aside the fact that it's been exhaustively picked over by any number of think tanks, wonks, blogs, and the whole thing has been available on-line for months - you're complaining now that Obama took a whopping 17 minutes to answer a question about the bill?

Posted by: tpsteele | April 8, 2010 11:47 AM | Report abuse

Looks like the WAPO has turned into a GOOBER publication when they hire people like Kornblut that has become so accustomed to Pretzeldent Bush's soundbytes and bumper sticker slogans to handle complex issues. We are witnessing the death of any true journalism in this country when you have lazy reporters that are in a hurry to get to their next cocktail hour so they can blackberry their stupid stories into the editor.

Posted by: billr40229 | April 8, 2010 12:06 AM | Report abuse

>Over five thousand years ago, Moses said to the children of Israel " pick
up your shovel, mount your asses and camels, and I will lead you to the
Promised Land". Nearly 75 years ago, Roosevelt said, "Lay down your
shovels, sit on your asses, and light up a Camel, this is the Promised
Land". Now Obama has stolen your shovel, taxed your asses, raised the
price of Camels, and mortgaged the Promised Land!

Wrong (in fact, way, way off) on all counts!

I am reminded of a line from an old movie called Cat Ballou:

He did it. He missed the barn!

Posted by: aloliver | April 7, 2010 5:58 PM | Report abuse

Rich people basically have won the lottery of life and Obamacare does a lot to level the playing field. Is it my fault that I am not as smart as other people and couldn't get in Med school? From my perspective, this Doctor who spent years working 120 hours a week for intern pay is lucky he has that kind of talent and energy. For the rest of us normal people who don't, we need a hand. If you are smart and lucky and born with skills that make you a lot of meoney, it seems fair to me that you should be willing to share with people who are less fortunate. It is very obvious that when Republican are in charge, they are only interested in giving tax breaks to the most wealthy amongst us. So what is wrong with the President giving something to the less fortunate from the more fortunate? America is supposed to be a fair place. President Obama has made things just a little more fair.

Posted by: TheBuzzer | April 7, 2010 4:52 PM | Report abuse

Anne,
It must've been such a hard day on the job for you. What with having to listen to long complicated answers and stuff.
How boring!
We feel for you though.

Posted by: dermotjm | April 7, 2010 3:41 PM | Report abuse

Good one Ron. Camels rule.

Anyway It's my opinion that Health Care Reform shouldn't be the primary focus of the Obama administration. Here's an example: I'm a 19 year old male in Charlotte, NC. I've been a part of the lower middle class my whole life. I work at Domino's for minimum wage and yes I do enjoy my job so I'm not complaining. I have no credit history. If I built up good credit over the next 2-3 years I could probably apply for a credit card with no limit or qualify for a Home Loan for a house that I can't afford. There's no question that is the root of our economy's problems.

The Obama administration should be focusing hard on placing regulations there instead of Health Care Reform.

Just my opinion.

Posted by: MichaelRickel | April 7, 2010 3:38 PM | Report abuse

Ron40511,
You got that e-mail too?
It was as lame the first time I read it as you are original.

Posted by: dermotjm | April 7, 2010 3:35 PM | Report abuse

Over five thousand years ago, Moses said to the children of Israel " pick
up your shovel, mount your asses and camels, and I will lead you to the
Promised Land". Nearly 75 years ago, Roosevelt said, "Lay down your
shovels, sit on your asses, and light up a Camel, this is the Promised
Land". Now Obama has stolen your shovel, taxed your asses, raised the
price of Camels, and mortgaged the Promised Land!

Posted by: ron40511 | April 7, 2010 2:46 PM | Report abuse

Like our last president could have spoken knowledgeably about anything important for even 1.7 minutes. God forbid people should be bored by having to exert some mental effort.

Posted by: david48 | April 7, 2010 2:32 PM | Report abuse

I love all these right-wingers who drone on about the need for "free market" and "more competition" in the health-care industry.

Yeah - that worked so well for banking and investment industries!!!

what we need is a quality nationalized health-care system: better than single-payer, better than "medicare for all". Health care costs are skyrocketing because of the profit in the insurance and drug industries - they need to be nationalized and the insurance companies need to be put out of business once and for all.

SamR

Posted by: SamR | April 7, 2010 12:17 PM | Report abuse

Why do liberals and Obama supporters still talk about Bush/Cheney/Rove?

Because they're still having to fix the problems Bush/Cheney/Rove created, and amazingly, Repubs are criticizing Obama and liberals for doing so!!

Examples:
Repubs: Obama is spending much more than Bush ever did.

Answer: Yeah, because he's having to pull an FDR to move the US away from the brink of full-on depression brought about by 8 years of Rove/Cheney/Bush.

Repubs: Obamacare is gonna cost us too much

Answer: Not as much as if he had done nothing. Bush did virtually nothing significant about health care, nor did Reagan, nor did Bush Sr. So the Dems have to come in and clean up the mess.

Repubs: I gotta pay more taxes and that's not fair.

Answer: Well then why did you back Bush twice? Why did you circumvent PayGO and let it die? Why did you spend like drunken sailors after two Bush Jr tax cuts? Why did you back an incredibly costly war?

All this has to be cleaned up!

The unbelievable thing is that this has to be explained. Look, you don't clean up an 8 year mess with a 5 minute Hand Vac duco job, now do ya?

Posted by: aloliver | April 7, 2010 11:54 AM | Report abuse

OMG! Like, Obama gave a nuanced answer!!! How boring!!!!! Like, why can't he give a quick answer!

Pathetic.

Posted by: teoandchive | April 7, 2010 11:46 AM | Report abuse

>I say I work in a high pressure environment

Yeah....we all do.

>I work 60 hours a week and am on call for 24 hours 3 times a week.

I'm on call 24 hours a day every day, 365 days a year, and work at least 60 hours a week. Big whoop.

>In my case I went to 4 years of college where I had to make the best grades to have a chance to get into medical school. Once I was accepted I had 4 years of very intense school. If I wasn't in school I was studying. Then 4 years of residency where I was at the hospital for as much as 120 hours a week for months at a time.

Someone have a gun to your head?

>Now I am finally finished and the reward I get is to pay an unfair amount of taxes.

That's life in the big city. Welcome to reality. (Hint: More money isn't going to make you happy. How many vacations can you go on a year anyway? All this fretting over your "deserved money" is only making you unhappy. Everyone can see that but you)

>My take home less than 10k a month.

Where's my violin?

Posted by: aloliver | April 7, 2010 11:26 AM | Report abuse

Only in the US could a plan that forces poor people to buy expensive plans (with some subsidies) that do very little, from gouging insurance companies, and provides no price controls, and taxes basic quality union health plans be considerer "centrist".

this is an attack on workers and a giveaway to heath insurance and drug companies

SamR

Posted by: SamR | April 7, 2010 10:37 AM | Report abuse

Do you people think that the top 1% got there through luck? Was their name drawn out of a bucket? Not a chance....it, in most cases took years of hard work and dedication to become successful. And after all that now you want to punish them as if it were luck. In my case I went to 4 years of college where I had to make the best grades to have a chance to get into medical school. Once I was accepted I had 4 years of very intense school. If I wasn't in school I was studying. Then 4 years of residency where I was at the hospital for as much as 120 hours a week for months at a time. Now I am finally finished and the reward I get is to pay an unfair amount of taxes.

Gross income 300k....after taxes less than 200k. Take home 15k per month.

Bills:

Insurance 1k
School Debt 2k
Practice Debt 2k

That alone makes my take home less than 10k a month. Many would say thats a great living and why are you complaining. I say I work in a high pressure environment where peoples lives are on the line. I work 60 hours a week and am on call for 24 hours 3 times a week. After all the hours and hours of training to get where I am I say its not even close to enough. Keep taking what I have worked so hard for and see if I go in to see a patient in the middle of the night. See if I stay late to see a patient who has been waiting. You want the best Doctors but if you don't want to pay for the best you won't get them. I have no problem with taxes but not when you tax me at a higher %age. I have earned everything I have. I didn't have rich parents who paid for my education. Anyone with a decent brain and determination can achieve the success I have, so why punish me as if I were "lucky".

In America its not the role of the Government to determine how much I should earn. You want medical prices to go down????? Make it a self pay system and then you find out what Docs services are really worth. Prices will come down because people will make better decisions on who they see when its their money that is paying for the service. Doctors will have no choice but to price their services competitively. Much like how dentistry is becoming. Insurance is supposed to be for catastrophic events, not head aches.

Posted by: cannonmw | April 7, 2010 9:58 AM | Report abuse

I'm not trashing Obama or anyone supporting his Health Care Reform. I agree that there is a BIG problem with the way the insurance companies policies are based on what will make them the most money (and that needs to change), however I feel that a government based organization offering affordable health care may blemish our Nation's reputation for laissez-faire capitalism.

It seems to me that the Government competing with health care industries might make things worse. Think about it... If an upper middle class working man/woman has had good health care coverage for years and Obama's government based program is taking business away from said man/womans's insurance company, his company may have to increse costs for this man/woman. This person may not be able to afford his/her health care coverage and may not be eligible for the Reform Program.

If insurance companies end up suffering from this that goes against everything laissez-faire capitalism stands for.

My proposition: Give it time.

Health Care Insurance is a moderately new concept that the United States is embracing. If an Insurance company charges too much or doesn't cover enough people because they want to make their money, the American people have the Constitutional right to boycott that particular company. If the company has sub-standard moral policies they don't deserve our business. If they aren't getting enough business they'll be forced to rethink thier policies/procedures.

Sorry if my post was too long and thanks for sharing your opinions. Please don't be too critical this is my first post. I know that I don't understand everything about politics but this is just the way I saw this Reform playing out...
maybe I think too much.

Posted by: MichaelRickel | April 7, 2010 3:49 AM | Report abuse

I'm not trashing Obama or anyone supporting his Health Care Reform. I agree that there is a BIG problem with the way the insurance companies policies are based on what will make them the most money (and that needs to change), however I feel that a government based organization offering affordable health care may blemish our Nation's reputation for laissez-faire capitalism.

It seems to me that the Government competing with health care industries might make things worse. Think about it... If an upper middle class working man/woman has had good health care coverage for years and Obama's government based program is taking business away from said man/womans's insurance company, his company may have to increse costs for this man/woman. This person may not be able to afford his/her health care coverage and may not be eligible for the Reform Program.

If insurance companies end up suffering from this that goes against everything laissez-faire capitalism stands for.

My proposition: Give it time.

Health Care Insurance is a moderately new concept that the United States is embracing. If an Insurance company charges too much or doesn't cover enough people because they want to make their money, the American people have the Constitutional right to boycott that particular company. If the company has sub-standard moral policies they don't deserve our business. If they aren't getting enough business they'll be forced to rethink thier policies/procedures.

Sorry if my post was too long and thanks for sharing your opinions. Please don't be too critical this is my first post. I know that I don't understand everything about politics but this is just the way I saw this Reform playing out...
maybe I think too much.

Posted by: MichaelRickel | April 7, 2010 3:48 AM | Report abuse

I'm not trashing Obama or anyone supporting his Health Care Reform. I agree that there is a BIG problem with the way the insurance companies policies are based on what will make them the most money (and that needs to change), however I feel that a government based organization offering affordable health care may blemish our Nation's reputation for laissez-faire capitalism.

It seems to me that the Government competing with health care industries might make things worse. Think about it... If an upper middle class working man/woman has had good health care coverage for years and Obama's government based program is taking business away from said man/womans's insurance company, his company may have to increse costs for this man/woman. This person may not be able to afford his/her health care coverage and may not be eligible for the Reform Program.

If insurance companies end up suffering from this that goes against everything laissez-faire capitalism stands for.

My proposition: Give it time.

Health Care Insurance is a moderately new concept that the United States is embracing. If an Insurance company charges too much or doesn't cover enough people because they want to make their money, the American people have the Constitutional right to boycott that particular company. If the company has sub-standard moral policies they don't deserve our business. If they aren't getting enough business they'll be forced to rethink thier policies/procedures.

Sorry if my post was too long and thanks for sharing your opinions. Please don't be too critical this is my first post. I know that I don't understand everything about politics but this is just the way I saw this Reform playing out...
maybe I think too much.

Posted by: MichaelRickel | April 7, 2010 3:47 AM | Report abuse

I'm sorry that Ms. Kornbluth has a problem with in-depth answers and gets bored so easily by policy talk.

I'm even more sorry that her anti-intellectualism is considered publication-worthy at the Post.

Posted by: sembtex | April 7, 2010 2:22 AM | Report abuse

Once again, it is funny to watch the supporters of the Republicans and Democrats go at each other in the comments when the two parties actually work together as a system (often unknowingly) to attack the american working class and shift more wealth the the bosses, banks, Wall Street, and the corporations. (The simple answer to the woman's question is that workers are overtaxed, while the rich and corporations are very undertaxed, when you look at the historic rates that they have been taxed at - a great many US corporations make huge profits, but find loopholes to pay no taxes at all)

it is simply a game of "good-cop, bad-cop"

the Democrats and Obama are the "good cop"- they pretend to be the friend of US workers, poor, and oppressed, while they actually work in the interests of US capitalism - they bail out wall-street and the banks for 12 trillion, but make the UAW give major concessions in order to give a like 20 billion to GM and Chrysler - and they don't even take over the banks or auto - they jsut give them the money. They pass a health-care bill that is a huge giveaway to insurance and drug companies - meant to shift health-care costs away from corporate america onto US workers

But then you have the "bad-cop" the Republicans - who criticize the Democrats and Obama - BUT ONLY BECAUSE THEY WANT TO GIVE EVEN MORE AWAY TO CORPORATE AMERICA AND WALL STREET THEN THE DEMOCRATS! Their role is to make the democrats look nice to US workers, so that we support Obama even when he is attacking us.

then you have the tea-party idiots who are expressing real rage at the corporate giveaways, but their right-wing populist agenda is funded and encouraged by major parts of corporate america who see the the "tea-party" movement and their anti-government spending and "overtaxed (which means that the the rich, the bank and the corporations are overtaxed) nonsense" is the perfect counterweight so that the capitalists can get the government to attack workers even more - more "free market", less "constraints and taxes on corporate america" - they may realize correctly that the government is their enemy, but what they fail to realize is that the government is the enemy of US workers because it is run in the interests of the US capitalist class - the bosses, the corporations, Wall Street, and the banks - and that is, in the end, who the tea-baggers pay homage to.

What is needed is a a real militant left-wing movement that fights in the interests of the US workers - realizing that the government, and the bosses, free-market and such that they work for are ALL our enemies.

SamR

Posted by: SamR | April 7, 2010 2:11 AM | Report abuse

Anti-intellectualism is killing this country. The spectacle of somebody criticizing President Obama correctly using a word out of the reader's vocabulary is hard to stomach.

Buy a freakin' dictionary!

Posted by: rick_desper | April 7, 2010 12:44 AM | Report abuse

Ms. Kornblut, if you find policy discussions boring, why do you have the job you have? I can assure you there are probably several thousand people who would love to have your job, and would do it in a way that included focusing on what the President said.

I'm sorry that your attention span is not adequate to the task. But after eight years of "stupid is as stupid does", some of us are grateful that we have a President who can converse intelligently about policy issues for 17 minutes.

Now if we could only get you out of the way, too, we'd be even better off!

Posted by: rick_desper | April 7, 2010 12:36 AM | Report abuse

Obama spoke off-the-cuff for seventeen minutes?

DANG!

Wasn't it just last month that the RepubliCANT bondage party and FAUX-News were pushing the line that he was helpless without a teleprompter?

Posted by: HughBriss | April 7, 2010 12:28 AM | Report abuse

Main Entry: mis·ap·pre·hend
Pronunciation: \(ˌ)mis-ˌa-pri-ˈhend\
Function: transitive verb
Date: 1628
: to apprehend wrongly : misunderstand
— mis·ap·pre·hen·sion \-ˈhen(t)-shən\ noun
-Merriam Webster online dictionary, and the word seems to have been around for a while.

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Posted by: jfdsiafsak | April 6, 2010 10:11 PM | Report abuse

If Bush has made some snarky, semi-literate comment, Kornblut would have swooned. It's not an easy answer. So some people were bored, it sounds like the vast majority stayed. The Post has repeatedly reported on the various opposition-driven soundbites, but not on the actual legislation. Kornblut is just another smug, lazy, useless member of the corps.

Posted by: thebuckguy | April 6, 2010 9:52 PM | Report abuse

Is it my imagination or are the Post reporters getting to be a stupid as the winger audience they are cultivating?

Posted by: branfo4 | April 6, 2010 9:26 PM | Report abuse

For as brilliant as people say this sad excuse for a world leader is he ought to get his word meaning correct. He states that he is going to spend a lot of time cleaning up "misapprehensions" that people have. I think you ment misconceptions mr obama. I don't know what a misapprehension is. Does anyone else? I have major apprehensions about this president and his adjenda. I had horrible apprehensions when he promised to force this down my throat. I have chilling apprehensions about the direction this country is going but I don't have a clue as to what a misapprehension is. Kind of like a inhalator versus an inhaler for asthma. What have we done to ourselves?

Posted by: bcgloveman | April 6, 2010 9:02 PM | Report abuse

This law will only increase our taxes and the monies will be used for many things other than their intended purpose.
It never ceases to amaze me how stupid the average liberal is. It can't be ignorance because they have seen this play out too many times in the past to claim that excuse. The supposed conservatives are no better and their attempts to fix an already untenable bill only made it worse.
The powers that be are no more capable of managing this than their predecessors were of managing social security. It’s like giving a glutton an unlimited platter of food. They will raid this pot of money for any and every use but that for which it is intended. When, in 2014, it is finally time for this to be used the money will have disappeared into some other government social program.
We as a nation have to start minding our own business and quit being the world’s policemen. If we pulled our military back within our own borders we could end illegal immigration and the money saved from not trying to save the world would be more than enough to pay off the national debt within a decade and pay for health care as well.

Posted by: chuckm1a | April 6, 2010 8:57 PM | Report abuse

Attention to all the people who are posting comments.

I watched the full video, and I read the full transcript. Her question was not about health care, her question was about taxes.

You idiots keep providing non-defenses in favor of Obama. For the convenience of future readers of this article, I will list these faulty defenses and WHY they are faulty. After you read them, you will learn that your opinion is that of a fool.

Common faulty defenses for Obama's lengthy statement provided by posters:

1) You just can't understand a long answer; your attention span sucks; you cannot comprehend a complex issue -- WRONG! The question was not a complicated one. The question was not about health care, the question was about TAXES and then the woman used health care as an example. Then Obama proceeded to try and sell his health care idea, instead of directly answering the question
2) It's not a yes or no answer -- Partially wrong! That is NOT what people are asking for, people are simply asking that if he chooses to give a lengthy answer, that it needs to be about TAXES and NOT selling his health care idea. He gave a stupid whiney anecdote when he should have answered the question directly. And although you want to call people "stupid" and "ignorant" for CLEARLY seeing that he did not address the issue, your reality is NOT reality.
3) You are a bunch of whiners, "under bush's administration" bla bla bla -- OKAY, let's stop right here. Since when did this issue at hand become about Bush? Since when is it useful to whine and moan about a president who is no longer in office? Get off your high horse, shut up, and LISTEN for once! Obama is the current president, and we are focusing on CURRENT issues. Dwelling in the past is NOT the solution to anything. Again, Obama is the president now, and he WILL be held accountable for all current and future actions he takes. End of story.

Now what's your pathetic defense?

Posted by: nocturnus | April 6, 2010 8:53 PM | Report abuse

I am amazed that some comments made by people consist of "WELL UNDER BUSH'S ADMINISTRATION..." and then proceed to bore us all with irrelevant information. Stop going off on a tangent, and deal with the issue at hand. First, this woman had a legitimate concern about being over-taxed, and you have NO right to call her a whiner for it. She did not attack your savior Obama, so you can get over yourself. Secondarily, Obama did not answer her question. He went off on a tangent about health care, which isn't addressing the GENERAL issue of taxes.

Also, one user Curmudgeon10 said "...after he gets re-elected..." -- please do not assume that he will get re-elected. Especially since right now, there is a slim chance that he actually will get re-elected.

THERE IS NO ARGUMENT YOU CAN PRESENT THAT WILL MAKE YOU RIGHT IN THIS SITUATION. The woman asked about taxes, and Obama provided a non-answer. END OF STORY! Forget Bush! OBAMA IS THE PRESIDENT NOW! He needs to PUT UP, or SHUT UP

Posted by: nocturnus | April 6, 2010 8:46 PM | Report abuse

What a bunch of whiners! The author of this article sounds like a spoiled schoolchild. "Obama spoke too long" or "he talked about too much stuff!" Good lord! Sorry the POTUS BORES you. It must be a tough life!

If you want to criticize him for meandering, tyou did a poor job. Right now this article (and it looks like most of the comments) speak more to peoples' lacking attention span than ability to mount a constructive criticism.

The least you could have done is provide a link to the transcript so we could judge for ourselves if he was wandering or if the people there just couldn't put their iphones away for 15 minutes (or both).

Posted by: uffda1 | April 6, 2010 8:35 PM | Report abuse

Paying a little extra now will be well spent when you actually have coverage and you need it one day, and you will, when you don't have to worry about being dropped and not getting care for your pre-existing condition, when your insurer can't conveniently deny you coverage for certain care and can't raise your rate conveniently for certain conditions, diseases, treatments etc. There are so many areas of our broken and corrupt health care and insurance industry this new health care bill fixes, it is well worth the money. Don't forget if you are unable to pay the Government will subsidize it or in layman's terms, GIVE YOU MONEY to pay for it. I would suggest anyone who is afraid of being able to afford it start looking into how to fill out the paperwork now so you are first in line for the money and ahead of the curve..

Posted by: Hillary08 | April 6, 2010 8:18 PM | Report abuse

Paying a little extra now will be well spent when you actually have coverage and you need it one day, and you will, when you don't have to worry about being dropped and not getting care for your pre-existing condition, when your insurer can't conveniently deny you coverage for certain care and can't raise your rate conveniently for certain conditions, diseases, treatments etc. There are so many areas of our broken and corrupt health care and insurance industry this new health care bill fixes, it is well worth the money. Don't forget if you are unable to pay the Government will subsidize it or in layman's terms, GIVE YOU MONEY to pay for it. I would suggest anyone who is afraid of being able to afford it start looking into how to fill out the paperwork now so you are first in line for the money and ahead of the curve..

Posted by: Hillary08 | April 6, 2010 8:17 PM | Report abuse

Paying a little extra now will be well spent when you actually have coverage and you need it one day, and you will, when you don't have to worry about being dropped and not getting care for your pre-existing condition, when your insurer can't conveniently deny you coverage for certain care and can't raise your rate conveniently for certain conditions, diseases, treatments etc. There are so many areas of our broken and corrupt health care and insurance industry this new health care bill fixes, it is well worth the money. Don't forget if you are unable to pay the Government will subsidize it or in layman's terms, GIVE YOU MONEY to pay for it. I would suggest anyone who is afraid of being able to afford it start looking into how to fill out the paperwork now so you are first in line for the money and ahead of the curve..

Posted by: Hillary08 | April 6, 2010 8:15 PM | Report abuse

Typical of this Prez. When he don't want to tell the truth or he don't know the truth, he starts stuttering & ranting on & on!! This man has no idea what he is doing!! We will all pay deeply for this mess he has created except for the ones that don't want insurance or to lazy to go get a job with benefits!! Why did a woman go into the doctor the day after Oslima signed this & expected to get a free b00b job? As long as us hard working people keep giving to the ones that won't work, this will only get worse than it is right now!

Posted by: releggneh1 | April 6, 2010 7:53 PM | Report abuse

This was an excellent example of great coaching by a medis person. Seventeen minutes without saying anything. Elocution without substance. We are facing grave circumstances and the president is reading Green Eggs and Ham and throwing out the first ball for the Capitols. As to the question of too much taxation, the answer is yes. The government passes entitlements and then increases taxes to fund them. Businesses raise prices to cover costs. Unfortunately, real income for families is decreasing. At some point, the tipping point will be reached and people will lose jobs as sales fall. Tax income will decrease and the downward spiral will continue. Vote the incumbents out.

Posted by: Chalupa1 | April 6, 2010 7:51 PM | Report abuse

It is not clear there will be a major cost increase. Many people without health insurance currently get healthcare from Hospital E.R's. Unfortunately, the E.R. is the most expensive delivery method for health care. As a nation, we are already paying the bills for people with no insurance who go to the E.R.

Perhaps, if these uncovered people had access to regular doctors and clinics by being covered, the ultimate costs would be lower. As for elimination of pre-existing conditions -- most people still end up getting the care they need today despite these restrictions. The difference is that without pre-existing condition clauses they will not have to endure financial ruin in the event of a major illness. When a uninsured person cannot pay their hospital bills, the rest of society is still picking up the tab.

I have heard many complaints from people who oppose Health Insurance Reform who are positive that the quality of health care will decline and health care will be rationed. I am not convinced this is correct. In fact, in a Capitalist society like the U.S., more providers (Physicians, Nurses, Physical Therapists, etc.) will enter the health care field if demand increases.

If we look back at the 1960's, many people opposed to Medicare (including Physicians) said exactly the same thing they are now saying about health care reform -- they predicted gloom & doom for the health care industry. They said it would put all the insurance companies out of business, and all the Physicians would close their practices because they would not be able to earn a living. Clearly, this has not happened. Medicare has probably been the greatest boon that to health care providers they have ever seen.

Posted by: altheimer | April 6, 2010 7:33 PM | Report abuse

Well said ceflynline!

Posted by: aloliver | April 6, 2010 7:10 PM | Report abuse

"who will bear this increased cost? US.
IT IS A TAX. Period.
We are all going to see increased costs for 4 years, with nothing in return. By 2014, the insurance companies will have either all gone out of business or raised their premiums to a point where we can't afford them and we all have to use the Government-run socialized pool insurance. Effectively, this program ends competitive private health insurance. And that was always the goal: levy taxes on us, use them to pay for Gov't-run health care, and get rid of the private system forever. Posted by: mmagliaro"


I went for 8 yrs without health insurance. I was living below the poverty line. I never went without medications or medical are. I went either private pay or to the county clinic as an indigent. What are people screaming about. There is MediCare, MediCal, general assistance, and a lot of free clinics. I don't see why now I must bear an additional tax burden to pay for who? Posted by: northdweller"

And one poster dem,onstrates why the other, (It is mutual and reciprocal) is wrong.

SOMEONE already paid taxes so norhtdweller could go to indigent care. Of course the cost of indigent care would be less for all of us if it wasn't needed, because EVERYONE paid his fair share. Those taxes and required heal;th insurance policies is everyone paying his fair share, and will over even the medium term lead to everyone, on average, paying less, rich, moderate income, and poor.

It is a tax, but then even Jesus told the Pharisees to pay their taxes.

When the system is up and running and in the adjust as indicated phase business will benefit, (and Republican Businessmen complain), the Wealthy will benefit, (and the Rich Republicans complain), Labor will benefit, farmers will benefit, (and THEY are among the most in need of this health care reform), self employed will benefit.

But the Right will keep on complaining and calling for repeal, just like they complained about Social Security, the Civil Rights Acts, TVA, REA, and all the other **A's that helped the bottom hal;f of the nation.

We Dems won, and in the nature of winning we are carrying out our campaign platforms. When we win in 2010 we will continue. When you T-s give us every election through mid century we will keep doing what Dems do.

We won, get over it.

Posted by: ceflynline | April 6, 2010 6:41 PM | Report abuse

>Why should they [those couples making over $250,000.00] pay a different percentage of their income than anyone else?

See, when you have to answer questions like this, it's troublesome. It'd be like me traveling through the desert with a caravan carrying plenty of water and asking a man dying of thirst, "Why should I have to give you some of my water?"

The very fact that someone even asks the question gives ever more validity to the proposition that those of greater wealth should be more heavily taxed....and especially when the increase is only on amounts over the $250,000.00!! (I'm assuming that is the case based on another person's post - apologies if that is incorrect)

When men won't come together to do what needs to be done, then taxes become necessary.

Learn it. Live it.

Posted by: aloliver | April 6, 2010 6:33 PM | Report abuse

Ask a professor a question, and this is what you get. Somebody's roots are showing.

Still, though admittedly 17 minutes is a long time to answer one question, it is a balmy respite against the brutal soundbites culture that is destroying this country, reducing complex questions into oversimplifications for the overly simple.

When politics is more about sport than governance, when soundbites rule over discourse, we ALL lose.

What a refreshing change 44 is over 43!

Posted by: ethanquern | April 6, 2010 6:10 PM | Report abuse

Excuse me. You are telling me I am confused about the tax rates? I stated the FACTS. Not conjecture, or marginal anything. Just a plain simple truth that those married people making over $250,000 are grossly penalized for being successful.

Why should they pay a different percentage of their income than anyone else? Everyone should contribute the same amount.

If you work harder you'll make more and get to keep more.

Not in America anymore. Work hard and you'll get to pay for those who don't want to work hard.

I am successful business woman. My husband is a successful business man. I work 60-70 hours/week. He works 70-80 - that's why we have more money.

Now we are going to be punished for it.

We were stupid. We should have unachieved, let the government pick up our children's education cost instead of working hard to pay it ourselves. We have 3 left in college (already paid for one). We've told the last 2 who are both in healthcare fields to take out loans and go work for the government for 10 years and let the government pay off your loan. We're getting too old to support everyone else's kids. Someone else can pick up for us now.

By the way, I'm quitting my job. Wonder whose taxes are going to up when all the over achievers like me quit working so hard.

Posted by: debmries | April 6, 2010 3:02 PM
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To help pay for the healthcare, any income ABOVE the $250,000 will be taxed at 2.35%. That a 0.9% increase; less than 1 percent increase! The first 1/4 million dollars will not have that 0.9 percent extra tax.

Posted by: shecpa786 | April 6, 2010 6:05 PM | Report abuse

>Obama.
The great drone murderer.
Air raiding villages.
CIA murdering teen agers.
and Obama looks to the
sky, and smiles.

Unfortunately, remedying Cheney/Rove/Bush errors is just the tiniest bit more difficult than writing bad poetry.

Posted by: aloliver | April 6, 2010 5:54 PM | Report abuse

I don't know why the whiners are so petty as to fuss about this incident. Personally, I'm tickled pink to have a president that knows that many words. (:-)

Posted by: eyies | April 6, 2010 5:51 PM | Report abuse

I don't know why the whiners are so petty as to fuss about this incident. Personally, I'm tickled pink to have a president that knows that many words. (:-)

Posted by: eyies | April 6, 2010 5:50 PM | Report abuse

You know what irritates the republotards MORE than having a black President?

Having a black President who is demonstrably SMARTER than they are!

OOOOHHHHH how it bugs them!!!

Don't believe me? Read these comments.

Oh GAWD this is fun to read!

Posted by: Heerman532 | April 6, 2010 5:46 PM | Report abuse

Heerman532, WELCOME TO THE PARTY!

Posted by: risho | April 6, 2010 5:46 PM | Report abuse

Jimegird8. Perhaps you should go back to China since it is so nice there. Plus, I seriously doubt they--some Governments-withheld 25% of your sons $42,000 income. I listed all my income-$135,000- and all my taxes-$26 to $27,000--and that comes to an effective tax rate of only 20%. If they with held $10,500 from your son, he must have got a pretty good refund. Also, don't include any withholdings for private medical, dental, or life insurance--those are not taxes.

And for Debmies---show me some numbers--not just rhetoric. I know what the various tax rates are--evidently you do not. I have done my own taxes for 50++ years-have you ever done your? Bet not!

A side comment. Seems a lot of posters hit the submit button several Times thinking that adds validity to their words.

Posted by: wmason5 | April 6, 2010 5:43 PM | Report abuse

>Has it occurred to anyone supporting the Healthcare "Reform" bill that people are opposed to it, BECAUSE they care about the people falling through the cracks?

No, because we have brains that sometimes function logically. See, the bill removes caps and denial of insurance because of pre-existing conditions. Or didn't you know that?

>Premiums will go up and covered benefits will go down. It is the only way to cover the cost of covering those with pre-existing conditions.

They're going up now Jack, to the tune of about 25% per year. Don't give me any of that going up garbage, unless you are willing to go single payer and remove the middle man. People need help and don't get it. Are you really a doctor and propose that eliminating the removal of the cap on expenses and removing pre-existing conditions language would be good for patients?

Didn't you take an oath?

Posted by: aloliver | April 6, 2010 5:42 PM | Report abuse

Obama.
The great drone murderer.
Air raiding villages.
CIA murdering teen agers.
and Obama looks to the
sky, and smiles.

Posted by: simonsays1 | April 6, 2010 5:42 PM | Report abuse

I went for 8 yrs without health insurance. I was living below the poverty line. I never went without medications or medical are. I went either private pay or to the county clinic as an indigent. What are people screaming about. There is MediCare, MediCal, general assistance, and a lot of free clinics. I don't see why now I must bear an additional tax burden to pay for who?

Immigrants are far better off than citizens because they know the lines to stand in to get money, jobs, houses and medical care. It's the buffoons that we are going to finance with out taxes.

Our health care is broken and corruption is rife in health care administration. But, quite frankly I'm more concerned about the care I get than the insurance to pay for it. If they cut something out of me or maim me by mistake there is no putting it back. It's done.

I have good insurance, but the inept doctors practicing out there are frightening, so I rarely see them. They buy expensive equipment and have to pay for it somehow and they do it with our flesh.

In the 1970s, hysterectomies was the surgery of choice. In the 2000s it seems to be breast cancer. In the 2010s, it seems to be prostate cancer.

Obamacare must benefit some lobbying organization. I don't know who--anyone here know?

So far, he's filled the pockets of the banks and corporations stabbing American homeowners in the back. And, now the health care debacle.

We are still swimming in unemployment, low morale, a war, and stunning loses in the housing market. Is he deaf? or just plain stupid?

Posted by: northdweller | April 6, 2010 5:41 PM | Report abuse

So soundbites are ineffective because they are immediately countered by other soundbites AND the real, lengthy, answer is too boring.

This writer, and the audience, are all morons and dumba55es.

Posted by: Heerman532 | April 6, 2010 5:40 PM | Report abuse

Jimegird8. Perhaps you should go back to China since it is so nice there. Plus, I seriously doubt they--some Governments-with held 25% of your sons $42,000 income. I listed all my income-$135,000- and all my taxes-$26 to $27,000--and that comes to an effective tax rate of only 20%. If they with held $10,500 from your son, he must hace got a pretty good refund. Also, don't include and withholdings for private medical, dental, or life insurance--those are not taxes.

And for Debmies---show me some numbers--not just rhetoric. I know what the various tax rates are--evidently you do not. I have done my own taxes for 50++ years-have you ever done your? Bet not!

A side comment. Seems a lot of posters hit the submit button several Times thinking that add validity to their words.

Posted by: wmason5 | April 6, 2010 5:40 PM | Report abuse

Ask the question,
we have high unemployment,
record foreclosures,
and obama is campaigning
about healthcare reform?????

he is career campaigner.

yikes...

he has been to all 57 states,
and a few colonies
and he will talk about healthcare
until we are all numb.

Posted by: simonsays1 | April 6, 2010 5:37 PM | Report abuse

at LEADVILLE who said We're 30 years overdue for a reckoning and change. What we got in the latest legislation is far from perfect, but it's a start. If you don't like things in America under Obama, move somewhere else! As some said in the 1970s, "America, Love it or Leave It!"

_______________________________________

I'm sick of all you liberal socialists whose only answer is to TAKE from those who have. There are doers and their are takers. Be proud to be a taker

Maybe you should be screaming at the true problem. Our corrupt government who is owned by big business and stop aiming your sights at the average American citizen who did not want this bill or more taxes.

Maybe you should move to France or Canada if you want free health insurance. Stop telling those of us who do not want more government to leave because I can guarantee you we severely outnumber you. You don't hear from most of them because they are out working trying to provide for their family and not on the internet insulting those who do not agree with them.

Posted by: howduyudo | April 6, 2010 5:36 PM | Report abuse

Weneedforesight,
“There is a much better and less expensive way to bypass insurance companies..”, do share your idea, I want to hear it.

Posted by: risho | April 6, 2010 5:35 PM | Report abuse

Or maybe things are more complicated than a Fox News soundbite. I know y'all like things dumbed down for you, but sometimes the truth is too complicated for some folks. Yawn all you want, but everything the president said is true and reasonable. If you want pat answers that don't really answer anything, then go ask Sarah Palin to explain it to you.

Posted by: metapsychic_rebellion | April 6, 2010 5:31 PM | Report abuse

Padantic

Posted by: Doctor_Evil | April 6, 2010 5:30 PM | Report abuse

>I don't think so. Obama was serving the insurance companies not the people and he knew it.

You might be right Dave. But we may never know. However, in high school, I once accused a guy of stealing my lunch money and it turned out not to be so. From that day forward, I decided not to accuse anyone without, what I perceive to be, significant evidence.

Fully agree with your point about politicians doing whatever it is they have to do and saying whatever it is they have to say to get elected because the populace is just not that intelligent.

I don't however think the really big problems will ever be solved, no matter what well-intentioned humans come up with. A Jehovah's Witness once came to my door and pointed out that man will never be able to govern himself well and I'm inclined to agree with him, what with looking back over history.

I remember Dennis Miller once saying in one of his pre-"right wing" rants, "You think you can change things? Look in the eyes of an eighty-year-old man."

Not exactly an optimistic viewpoint, but honest.

Posted by: aloliver | April 6, 2010 5:23 PM | Report abuse

I'm sick of all you naysayers. What we have is a broken system in which people find themselves uncovered or undercovered when sickness, disease or disability strikes. One-fifth have no health insurance at all. That includes our friends, coworkers, kids, parents, and in many cases, ourselves. Should your sister die of breast cancer, your son incur $250k of debt because they are denied coverage or lose their jobs? The insurance companies and big health care networks reap billions by denying coverage. We're 30 years overdue for a reckoning and change. What we got in the latest legislation is far from perfect, but it's a start. If you don't like things in America under Obama, move somewhere else! As some said in the 1970s, "America, Love it or Leave It!"

Posted by: Leadville | April 6, 2010 5:19 PM | Report abuse

" He invoked .. the payroll tax that funds Medicare (referring to it, in fluent Washington lingo, as "FICA").

Calling FICA tax "FICA" is "fluent Washington lingo"? It says FICA right there on our forms for all to see. What the heck would you call it?

Sounds like a subtle but biased blogger with an agenda to paint someone a certain way.

Posted by: ArtBoman | April 6, 2010 5:17 PM | Report abuse

Has it occurred to anyone supporting the Healthcare "Reform" bill that people are opposed to it, BECAUSE they care about the people falling through the cracks?

The vast majority of money allocated in this measure is NOT going to help pay the medical bills. It is going to fund studies, fund the development of committees, including committees in each state to discuss raising premiums.

I'm a healthcare provider and I've filed claims, spoken directly with insurance companies several times to advocate for patients, so that they would get the coverage they were paying premiums for. I know the games insurance companies play and this measure is NOT going to put an end to those games. MANDATING that everyone get coverage is only helping the insurance industry. There is a much better and less expensive way to bypass insurance companies, but politicians don't want to hear about it. Both Republicans and Democrats have allies with the insurance industry.

Premiums will go up and covered benefits will go down. It is the only way to cover the cost of covering those with pre-existing conditions.

I believe that people in desperate situations should get real help. The money should go directly toward covering their healthcare costs, not paying for more government positions and pet projects.

This law is only going to make matters worse.

I could go on for more than 17 minutes, but I have patients to see!

Posted by: weneedforesight | April 6, 2010 5:14 PM | Report abuse

recently prepared a 1040EZ for my son who works as a "technician" in Silicon Valley. His gross wages were just under $48,000. for 2009. From this he had the following deductions:
Federal income tax
Social Security tax
Medicare tax
State Income taxes.
All together more than 25% of what he earned didn't reach him. In addition to these deductions he must pay a very high tax on the fuel he uses and sales taxes on most everything he buys.
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Two things...first of all, with that income level & job, your son should be able to take some deductions available to him by using a 1040A at least.
Secondly, you had to prepare a 1040EZ for him??? He couldn't do it himself???Seriously, that takes like 5 minutes to fill out!

Posted by: IrishLass622 | April 6, 2010 5:12 PM | Report abuse

@aloliver - You said "I'm not so sure Obama was lying. I think he wanted single payer, but knew it wouldn't pass and so he got what he could." I don't think so. Obama was serving the insurance companies not the people and he knew it.

But in a way it is our fault! Politicians MUST LIE in order to get elected. Politicians must collect millions and millions of dollars to PAY FOR AIR TIME in order to be elected. Worse yet, we elect people who tell us what we want to hear.

The problem can be solved but but nobody dares address it. We the people own the airwaves and if we licenced those airwaves in such a way politicians did not have to pay so much to get elected, we might get lucky and elect a politician who represented us instead of the special interest groups.

Posted by: dave- | April 6, 2010 5:05 PM | Report abuse

Sounds like the author and many of the posters prefer sound bites and talking points.

Posted by: LBen | April 6, 2010 5:01 PM | Report abuse

>Effectively, this program ends competitive private health insurance. And that was always the goal: levy taxes on us, use them to pay for Gov't-run health care, and get rid of the private system forever.

So remove the middle man and reduce over-all health care costs for Americans? Kinda like medicare? Kinda like what many other non-socialist countries have already successfully accomplished?

And the problem is?

Hey Dave. You need not fear. mmagliaro has made it clear that, in the end, you will get what you want. No worries.

Well, I guess all's well that ends well.

Posted by: aloliver | April 6, 2010 4:54 PM | Report abuse

grapids38:
"The problem with liberals and the president is they have the uncanny ability to only think in the moment. They lack the understanding for their decisions and the impact on the future. Ex. Health Care, taxes, limiting our response to an attack.
They have no clue about the outcome on any issue. This president is way over his head.

Posted by: grapids38"

grapids38, that's because those who see it that way were part of the "dumbing-down the nation" effort so that the big business with their constituents in the in government (hint: Cheney) could spend our money at their free will justifying the war but WMD other lies like that.

Posted by: risho | April 6, 2010 4:48 PM | Report abuse

To Beatty 123. Your post of 1:50 PM. That was NOT my entire post that you read earlier. Someone at the Wash.Post deleted the balance of my own post. If it was there for you to read now,you would be certainly agreeable to my own post. There were no naughty words in it, only more truth than poetry. That balance of my posting has been deleted by others and is not listed below. Sorry about that. By the way, if neither "you nor others can't stand the heat, get out of the kitchen."

From tomandgail1: "For ye suffer fools gladly, seeing ye yourselves are wise."
~Bible, II Corinthians 11:19 (KJV)

YOU HAVE ELECTED INTO A POSITION OF AUTHORITY, A POMPOUS, IGNORANT, ARROGANT ASS, AND HAVE PLACED HIM AT THE HEAD OF OTHER LIKE-MINDED HUMANOIDS.]]]


I really love how you quote biblical scripture here and then, immediately following, throw out unnecessary personal insults. People like you give religion a bad name.

Posted by: beatty123 | April 6, 2010 1:50 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: tomandgail1 | April 6, 2010 4:41 PM | Report abuse

I find it rather frightening that there are people out there that believe that Obama answered the question with "a detailed explanation, facts and cogent reasoning". People, the man did not answer the question.

Posted by: thebink | April 6, 2010 4:35 PM | Report abuse

Dave: I agree that private insurance companies are there to fill their pockets and the pockets of their shareholders. I’ve always felt that elements of basic human survival such as health care, energy and food should have a greater oversight by a non-profit entity consisting of an independent group, ideally not the Government.

Further, I don't think it's accurate to compare US with other countries as you have because US is very different in terms of culture, and how people think and act. Face it, US has and always will be a "wild west" and people will always act like that. What works (or not working) in Canada, Sweden, or any other county may not and probably will not work in US, so to draw any correlations is a waste of time. We need to find what works for us here in US. It is not going to be easy and while Republicans don’t want to hear about it, not to mention that they were given a VIP invitation the table to offer their plan. Well, we know how that’s tuned out. I can’t wait to see what they’re working on (Ha!)

dbw1: I think that the insurance companies have nothing to do with the medical advancements you are referring to. It's a completely separate topic. Now in Canada insurance companies and drug/medical technology firms may have stricter oversight, but in my occasional tuning into the news I've never heard the President to include the drug/medical technology firms in his Healthcare overhaul. Perhaps I just missed it, if he did.

Posted by: risho | April 6, 2010 4:34 PM | Report abuse

On point 1:
Not one new person gets coverage under his plan until 2014, except those who are currently denied because of preexisting conditions. Until 2014, the rest of those 50M people who have no coverage get nothing.

On his other points:
Don't know what you got? Deny coverage? Control costs? Choice? Well consider this. For the next 4 years, the people who ALREADY HAVE coverage, can't have their catastrophic limits capped. The ones with preexisting conditions can't be denied insurance. All those cancer and AIDS patients can file claims with no limit now. But nobody new is being forced to PAY into the system until 2014. Therefore, who will bear this increased cost? US.
IT IS A TAX. Period.
We are all going to see increased costs for 4 years, with nothing in return.

By 2014, the insurance companies will have either all gone out of business or raised their premiums to a point where we can't afford them and we all have to use the Government-run socialized pool insurance.

Effectively, this program ends competitive private health insurance. And that was always the goal: levy taxes on us, use them to pay for Gov't-run health care, and get rid of the private system forever.

Posted by: mmagliaro | April 6, 2010 4:34 PM | Report abuse

I recently prepared a 1040EZ for my son who works as a "technician" in Silicon Valley. His gross wages were just under $48,000. for 2009. From this he had the following deductions:
Federal income tax
Social Security tax
Medicare tax
State Income taxes.
All together more than 25% of what he earned didn't reach him. In addition to these deductions he must pay a very high tax on the fuel he uses and sales taxes on most everything he buys.
It wouldn't be so bad but it is clear that what he pays for social security and medicare will never benefit him. It will be 35 years before he qualifies for social security and medicare benefits and it is clear that these entitlements will be worthless in 30 years. I am 69 and still pay almost $100. a month for Medicare insurance which is subtracted from my social security benefits. I am told that Medicare needs to be supplemented by a Medicare supplement insurance policy. The first time I used Medicare, for a routine physical, I had to pay almost $400.
Before returning to the US last year I lived in Beijing for 5 years. In Beijing my yearly physical exam including the normal battery of tests cost me about US$25. The Doctor was a graduate of Stanford and the hospital which conducted the tests was very clean and modern. I didn't need a prescription for the drugs prescribed for my high blood pressure and Diabetes. In Beijing these drugs cost me less than $5. Here in the US the same drugs are partially paid by my Medicare but even with that they cost me $20. for each refill.
I also had to pay taxes on the income I earned in Beijing but it was a fraction of what my son paid for 2009.
The problem with Obama is that he is an over educated bag of wind. He lied to people to get elected. Led people to believe that he would get the US out of Iraq. Instead he continues to let the "little boys" in the Pentagon dictate US foreign policy. These "little boys" enjoy playing war games with the very expensive toys we buy for them. That is one reason our taxes are so high. The US government continues to spend money we do not have. Fortunately we will only have to listen to Obama until January 20th, 2013. Maybe our next President will jusy say when asked about high taxes "Yup sorry about that" and shut up.

Posted by: jimeglrd8 | April 6, 2010 4:30 PM | Report abuse

I recently prepared a 1040EZ for my son who works as a "technician" in Silicon Valley. His gross wages were just under $48,000. for 2009. From this he had the following deductions:
Federal income tax
Social Security tax
Medicare tax
State Income taxes.
All together more than 25% of what he earned didn't reach him. In addition to these deductions he must pay a very high tax on the fuel he uses and sales taxes on most everything he buys.
It wouldn't be so bad but it is clear that what he pays for social security and medicare will never benefit him. It will be 35 years before he qualifies for social security and medicare benefits and it is clear that these entitlements will be worthless in 30 years. I am 69 and still pay almost $100. a month for Medicare insurance which is subtracted from my social security benefits. I am told that Medicare needs to be supplemented by a Medicare supplement insurance policy. The first time I used Medicare, for a routine physical, I had to pay almost $400.
Before returning to the US last year I lived in Beijing for 5 years. In Beijing my yearly physical exam including the normal battery of tests cost me about US$25. The Doctor was a graduate of Stanford and the hospital which conducted the tests was very clean and modern. I didn't need a prescription for the drugs prescribed for my high blood pressure and Diabetes. In Beijing these drugs cost me less than $5. Here in the US the same drugs are partially paid by my Medicare but even with that they cost me $20. for each refill.
I also had to pay taxes on the income I earned in Beijing but it was a fraction of what my son paid for 2009.
The problem with Obama is that he is an over educated bag of wind. He lied to people to get elected. Led people to believe that he would get the US out of Iraq. Instead he continues to let the "little boys" in the Pentagon dictate US foreign policy. These "little boys" enjoy playing war games with the very expensive toys we buy for them. That is one reason our taxes are so high. The US government continues to spend money we do not have. Fortunately we will only have to listen to Obama until January 20th, 2013. Maybe our next President will jusy say when asked about high taxes "Yup sorry about that" and shut up.

Posted by: jimeglrd8 | April 6, 2010 4:30 PM | Report abuse

I recently prepared a 1040EZ for my son who works as a "technician" in Silicon Valley. His gross wages were just under $48,000. for 2009. From this he had the following deductions:
Federal income tax
Social Security tax
Medicare tax
State Income taxes.
All together more than 25% of what he earned didn't reach him. In addition to these deductions he must pay a very high tax on the fuel he uses and sales taxes on most everything he buys.
It wouldn't be so bad but it is clear that what he pays for social security and medicare will never benefit him. It will be 35 years before he qualifies for social security and medicare benefits and it is clear that these entitlements will be worthless in 30 years. I am 69 and still pay almost $100. a month for Medicare insurance which is subtracted from my social security benefits. I am told that Medicare needs to be supplemented by a Medicare supplement insurance policy. The first time I used Medicare, for a routine physical, I had to pay almost $400.
Before returning to the US last year I lived in Beijing for 5 years. In Beijing my yearly physical exam including the normal battery of tests cost me about US$25. The Doctor was a graduate of Stanford and the hospital which conducted the tests was very clean and modern. I didn't need a prescription for the drugs prescribed for my high blood pressure and Diabetes. In Beijing these drugs cost me less than $5. Here in the US the same drugs are partially paid by my Medicare but even with that they cost me $20. for each refill.
I also had to pay taxes on the income I earned in Beijing but it was a fraction of what my son paid for 2009.
The problem with Obama is that he is an over educated bag of wind. He lied to people to get elected. Led people to believe that he would get the US out of Iraq. Instead he continues to let the "little boys" in the Pentagon dictate US foreign policy. These "little boys" enjoy playing war games with the very expensive toys we buy for them. That is one reason our taxes are so high. The US government continues to spend money we do not have. Fortunately we will only have to listen to Obama until January 20th, 2013. Maybe our next President will jusy say when asked about high taxes "Yup sorry about that" and shut up.

Posted by: jimeglrd8 | April 6, 2010 4:28 PM | Report abuse

This president DOES NOT LISTEN. He's a snake-oil salesman. He does Not care what you think, either.
Americans demonstrated their opposition to
Obamacare for months and months...and what did this president do? He dismissed the Tea Partiers as a "fringe group".
That's a slap in the face, to every taxpayer in this country.
We will start seeing VAT tax in everything we buy soon., as a result.

Posted by: ohioan | April 6, 2010 4:10 PM | Report abuse

@dbw1 - You are clearly in denial of the obvious.

I disagree with your notion that American taxpayers should fund medical advances that the rest of the world can use for free. The whole idea that Americans should pay more to fund research the whole world can use is just plain silly.

I disagree with you notion that American should provide free health care to illegal immigrants. Obviously America needs a social security card with biometric information to track employment and collect taxes before providing any services. That is the fault of other systems and not health care.

I do not understand your notion of how illegal immigrants caused America's higher per-capita spending costs. If they did not pay, they would lower per-capita spending costs, wouldn't they? I said "In 2006, per-capita spending for health care in Canada was US$3,678; in the U.S., US$6,714. The U.S. spent 15.3% of GDP on health care in that year; Canada spent 10.0%"

Actually, there is no discernible difference between Canadian health care and a large HMO such as Kaiser. Hospitals not only look the same, have the same services but experience identical problems.

The obvious truth is we should have a single payer health insurance like the rest of the civilized world. If you do not like the Canadian example there are numerous others. For example look at Britain, France or even Cuba.

Posted by: dave- | April 6, 2010 4:02 PM | Report abuse

The problem with liberals and the president is they have the uncanny ability to only think in the moment. They lack the understanding for their decisions and the impact on the future. Ex. Health Care, taxes, limiting our response to an attack.
They have no clue about the outcome on any issue. This president is way over his head.

Posted by: grapids38 | April 6, 2010 4:01 PM | Report abuse

The problem with liberals and the president is they have the uncanny ability to only think in the moment. They lack the understanding for their decisions and the impact on the future. Ex. Health Care, taxes, limiting our response to an attack.
They have no clue about the outcome on any issue. This president is way over his head.

Posted by: grapids38 | April 6, 2010 4:00 PM | Report abuse

>dave: @aloliver - Clearly you still do not understand! Obama is lying to you and serving the private for profit insurance companies that he is beholden to for funding his past and future election costs.

The point is that what Obama said was a lie. United States pays almost double for health care than other countries that have single payer health care systems do.

Hi Dave,

I hear ya, and I get what you are saying. But I'm not so sure Obama was lying. I think he wanted single payer, but knew it wouldn't pass and so he got what he could. Well, that's my take. Even as President, it is obvious that one can only do so much, though one may want to do significantly more.

As an aside, and though I'm not sure how much this is worth, the book Freakonomics reports, as I remember it, that campaign spending is not as important in influencing voters as one may think. Interesting book. Might want to give it a read.

Posted by: aloliver | April 6, 2010 3:44 PM | Report abuse

Taxes! Taxes! Taxes! We all pay them; some of us many more times over than others. But one thing that I have learned from the protests that I have observed is it's the idiots screaming the most against taxes and healthcare reform who stand to benefit the most from them. What sense does it make? Many hard working middle class folks pay the taxes on principle that services in this the richest country have to be paid for so we don't someday have to jump over these morons in the streets as they sit there and beg. These folks screaming I bet are the same ones who constantly complain about the lack of services. Where the hell do they think the money comes from to pay for their demands? Not from them the screaming mob, but from the upper middle class. That is what makes this noise all silly. Many of the folks agitating on these pages and on the various TV shows do not earn enough (e.g. Joe the Plummer) to worry about being taxed.

So what is all this noise about if these buffoons are the beneficiaries of the taxes that wealthier people will pay? Well, most of this mindless passion is being driven by folks like the writer of this article. The purpose is to get the more feeble minded, non-thinking, hate mongering among us angry about what we perceive is being done to us, even when it is not being done to us, but is being done for us. These articles are designed to stir negative passion among those who already hate the president for not being like them.

Posted by: leopoldhooke | April 6, 2010 3:37 PM | Report abuse

In response to HughLai, the point I was trying to make was that our taxes will one day in the US be that high (>60%). It had nothing to do with population of Sweden. If Obama has his way, that is what we will one day pay. That is because the Democrats will find a way for everything to be taxed, as it is in Sweden, which is a socialist country.
I hope the republicans win in November, so they can start impeachment proceedings against all this non-constitutional BS. What ever happened to a government by the people for the people, as I believe is stated in the constitution and not a government by the democrats for the democrats or a government by Obama for Obama.

Posted by: mysticnights777 | April 6, 2010 3:34 PM | Report abuse

@risho - No, it is not better than the current health care system; it is much worse.

United States pays almost double for health care than other countries that have single payer health care systems do. The U.S. spends much more on health care than Canada, both on a per-capita basis and as a percentage of GDP. In 2006, per-capita spending for health care in Canada was US$3,678; in the U.S., US$6,714. The U.S. spent 15.3% of GDP on health care in that year; Canada spent 10.0%.

Obama is lying to you and serving the private for profit insurance companies that he is beholden to for funding his past and future election costs. The truth is we should have a single payer health insurance like the rest of the civilized world. For example:

Canada simply removed the private health insurance for profit insurance companies from the health care system and cut the costs of health care by almost one half. So why would that work you ask? Why have private for profit health insurance have become the merchants of misery in our health care system?

I think the reason is so simple we tend to overlook it. In order to become Doctors, Doctors take an oath to do good for their patients and not to harm anyone. Essentially Doctors promise not to enrich their pocketbook at the expense of our health. That is not to say Doctors always live up to that oath but private for profit insurance companies never took that oath and in fact do exactly the opposite. Private for profit health insurance companies serve THEIR interests, not ours.

Health insurance companies spend huge amounts of money doing what we do not want them to do. Insurance companies have no business being in the business of deciding our health care system, our health policy, and deciding who gets what medical service and who doesn't!

Insurance companies make billions of dollars collecting insurance premiums for health care expenses the government pays for with your tax money. It is a great scam funded by insurance companies who pay BOTH parties.

Ask yourself, what do insurance companies do? What do they contribute to health care? Doctors treat patients and the only thing insurance companies do is collect money for providing no service at all! The insurance companies cream the system. The insurance companies have all sorts of ways to deny coverage to those in need. As a result, United States pays almost double for health care than other countries that have single payer health care systems do.

Posted by: dave- | April 6, 2010 3:30 PM | Report abuse

>The rising deficits were the result of exploding SPENDING. If you want to talk about slashing SPENDING to bring deficits back down, conservatives will be all ears.

Like they were when Bush Jr & Co. circumvented PAYGO and let it die, and then the Repubs went on a spending spree?

Look, if you want to talk about overspending by the Dems, I'm not one and will probably agree with you. But don't try and pretend that Repubs don't do darn near the same.

And thanks for the "concept" lesson.

By the way, did Reagan and Bush Sr sign any of the spending bills that caused them to have to raise taxes?

Posted by: aloliver | April 6, 2010 3:23 PM | Report abuse

I object to the FEES that are added to everything, since Bush cut the TAXES.

Posted by: caramello51 | April 6, 2010 3:23 PM | Report abuse

dave-:
Since you are so enamored with Canadian health care, here's a few questions to ponder:
- how many medical innovations/advancements in the past 30-40 years (new drugs, medical equipment inventions, procedures improved, etc) have come out of Canada's single-payer system vs America's for-profit system?

- how many uninsured illegal immigrants do Canadian hospitals have to care for (and pass the expense to those who are insured), compared to the US?

- what is the average wait time in Canada to see a specialist vs the US? (when the governments own web-sites brag about cutting waits from YEARS to several MONTHS, it should tell you something)

That should get you started...let us know what you find.

Posted by: dbw1 | April 6, 2010 3:22 PM | Report abuse

Sounds like most of you here make over quarter of a mil. Or you are just simply misinformed by the few who "think" for you.

Now I don't know who the author, Ms. Kornblut is but it sounds like regardless what the President would do, she's would try to put him down.

As for me, the President gave a long answer to "Doris", but if half is true, it is still better than what my present alternative is. I look at my paystub every two weeks and wonder about not my federal or state with holdings but the Medicare deductions. It's greater than the fed/state combined.

And I said, you people must make over 250K but I'm not. My family and I live a comfortable living on about 90K and after deduction, I fall in the 15% tax bracket. You consider over taxed?

Posted by: risho | April 6, 2010 3:18 PM | Report abuse

leopoldhooke:
"...one thing that I have learned from the many protests that I have observed is it's the the idiots screaming the most against taxes and healthcare reform who stand to benefit the most from them."

One more, leapold....

"Any society that would give up a little liberty to gain a little security will deserve neither and lose both."
- Benjamin Franklin

Posted by: dbw1 | April 6, 2010 3:08 PM | Report abuse

@leopoldhooke - I 100% agree with your "Taxes! Taxes! Taxes!" post. I am screaming for healthcare reform that serves the people instead of the private for profit insurance companies.

United States pays almost double for health care than other countries that have single payer health care systems do.

For example, the U.S. spends much more on health care than Canada, both on a per-capita basis and as a percentage of GDP.

In 2006, per-capita spending for health care in Canada was US$3,678; in the U.S., US$6,714. The U.S. spent 15.3% of GDP on health care in that year; Canada spent 10.0%.

Posted by: dave- | April 6, 2010 3:07 PM | Report abuse

So, quit whining about taxes. You have it a lot better than you think!!!
estimate we

Posted by: wmason5 | April 6, 2010 2:12 PM
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Excuse me. You are telling me I am confused about the tax rates? I stated the FACTS. Not conjecture, or marginal anything. Just a plain simple truth that those married people making over $250,000 are grossly penalized for being successful.

Why should they pay a different percentage of their income than anyone else? Everyone should contribute the same amount.

If you work harder you'll make more and get to keep more.

Not in America anymore. Work hard and you'll get to pay for those who don't want to work hard.

I am successful business woman. My husband is a successful business man. I work 60-70 hours/week. He works 70-80 - that's why we have more money.

Now we are going to be punished for it.

We were stupid. We should have unachieved, let the government pick up our children's education cost instead of working hard to pay it ourselves. We have 3 left in college (already paid for one). We've told the last 2 who are both in healthcare fields to take out loans and go work for the government for 10 years and let the government pay off your loan. We're getting too old to support everyone else's kids. Someone else can pick up for us now.

By the way, I'm quitting my job. Wonder whose taxes are going to up when all the over achievers like me quit working so hard.

Posted by: debmries | April 6, 2010 3:02 PM | Report abuse

leopoldhooke:
"...one thing that I have learned from the many protests that I have observed is it's the the idiots screaming the most against taxes and healthcare reform who stand to benefit the most from them."

I know it's hard for a liberal to understand, but not everyone in the country is looking for handouts or desires to be a ward of the state. Some of us "idiots" embrace the ideals of our founding fathers of limited government, and would gladly trade the so-called securities socialism boasts to maintain our individual freedoms.

"[democracy] can only exist until the majority discovers it can vote itself largess out of the public treasury. After that, the majority always votes for the candidate promising the most benefits with the result the democracy collapses..."
- Alexander Tytler

Posted by: dbw1 | April 6, 2010 3:02 PM | Report abuse

Is "misapprehension" another Obamanomaly or is Bidenism infect u us? Must be, looks like I got it two.

Posted by: Englishoneohone | April 6, 2010 3:00 PM | Report abuse

Taxes! Taxes! Taxes! We all pay them; some of us much more than others. But one thing that I have learned from the many protests that I have observed is it's the the idiots screaming the most against taxes and healthcare reform who stand to benefit the most from them. What sense does it make. Many in the upper middle who would pay the taxes will not benefit but are for it on principle; realizing services in this the richest country have to be paid for so we don't someday have to jump over these morons in the streets as they sit there and beg. What is the difference? The difference is that most upper middle class are better educated than the mindless screaming mob whose sole issue is they dislike the president. Biting the hand that feeds them. How do you like that.

Posted by: leopoldhooke | April 6, 2010 2:58 PM | Report abuse

leopoldhooke: Your "Taxes! Taxes! Taxes!" post was so refreshing to read and decidedly honest and true. Thanks!

Posted by: aloliver | April 6, 2010 2:57 PM | Report abuse

Taxes! Taxes! Taxes! We all pay them; some of us much more than others. But one thing that I have learned from the many protests that I have observed is it's the the idiots screaming the most against taxes and healthcare reform who stand to benefit the most from them. What sense does it make. Many in the upper middle who would pay the taxes will not benefit but are for it on principle; realizing services in this the richest country have to be paid for so we don't someday have to jump over these morons in the streets as they sit there and beg. What is the difference. The difference is that most upper middle class are better educated than the mindless screaming mob whose sole issue is they dislike the president. Biting the hand that feeds them. How do you like that.

Posted by: leopoldhooke | April 6, 2010 2:56 PM | Report abuse

Taxes! Taxes! Taxes! We all pay them; some of us much more than others. But one thing that I have learned from the many protests that I have observed is it's the the idiots screaming the most against taxes and healthcare reform who stand to benefit the most from them. What sense does it make. Many in the upper middle who would pay the taxes will not benefit but are for it on principle; realizing services in this the richest country have to be paid for so we don't someday have to jump over these morons in the streets as they sit there and beg. What is the difference. The difference is that most upper middle class are better educated than the mindless screaming mob whose sole issue is they dislike the president. Biting the hand that feeds them. How do you like that.

Posted by: leopoldhooke | April 6, 2010 2:55 PM | Report abuse

Taxes! Taxes! Taxes! We all pay them; some of us much more than others. But one thing that I have learned from the many protests that I have observed is it's the the idiots screaming the most against taxes and healthcare reform who stand to benefit the most from them. What sense does it make. Many in the upper middle who would pay the taxes will not benefit but are for it on principle; realizing services in this the richest country have to be paid for so we don't someday have to jump over these morons in the streets as they sit there and beg. What is the difference. The difference is that most upper middle class are better educated than the mindless screaming mob whose sole issue is they dislike the president. Biting the hand that feeds them. How do you like that.

Now, on the issue of Anne E. Kornblut's article: Anne E. Kornblut's article is a piece of crap, obviously written by someone with a surreptitious agenda, fully aware that most Americans are not as savvy in the intricasies involved in death by a thousand cuts.

Folks like her are a curse to journalism. I mean it matters not if it's from the left or right. People who pass as journalists, but whose true aim is to further specific agendas are nothing more than wolves in sheep clothing; meaning to calculably deceive and subtly spur on passions aganist those with whom they differ on matters not even remotly related to that which they write..

Posted by: leopoldhooke | April 6, 2010 2:52 PM | Report abuse

Taxes! Taxes! Taxes! We all pay them; some of us much more than others. But one thing that I have learned from the many protests that I have observed is it's the the idiots screaming the most against taxes and healthcare reform who stand to benefit the most from them. What sense does it make. Many in the upper middle who would pay the taxes will not benefit but are for it on principle; realizing services in this the richest country have to be paid for so we don't someday have to jump over these morons in the streets as they sit there and beg. What is the difference. The difference is that most upper middle class are better educated than the mindless screaming mob whose sole issue is they dislike the president. Biting the hand that feeds them. How do you like that.

Now, on the issue of Anne E. Kornblut's article: Anne E. Kornblut's article is a piece of crap, obviously written by someone with a surreptitious agenda, fully aware that most Americans are not as savvy in the intricasies involved in death by a thousand cuts.

Folks like her are a curse to journalism. I mean it matters not if it's from the left or right. People who pass as journalists, but whose true aim is to further specific agendas are nothing more than wolves in sheep clothing; meaning to calculably deceive and subtly spur on passions aganist those with whom they differ on matters not even remotly related to that which they write..

Posted by: leopoldhooke | April 6, 2010 2:51 PM | Report abuse

Taxes! Taxes! Taxes! We all pay them; some of us much more than others. But one thing that I have learned from the many protests that I have observed is it's the the idiots screaming the most against taxes and healthcare reform who stand to benefit the most from them. What sense does it make. Many in the upper middle who would pay the taxes will not benefit but are for it on principle; realizing services in this the richest country have to be paid for so we don't someday have to jump over these morons in the streets as they sit there and beg. What is the difference. The difference is that most upper middle class are better educated than the mindless screaming mob whose sole issue is they dislike the president. Biting the hand that feeds them. How do you like that.

Now, on the issue of Anne E. Kornblut's article: Anne E. Kornblut's article is a piece of crap, obviously written by someone with a surreptitious agenda, fully aware that most Americans are not as savvy in the intricasies involved in death by a thousand cuts.

Folks like her are a curse to journalism. I mean it matters not if it's from the left or right. People who pass as journalists, but whose true aim is to further specific agendas are nothing more than wolves in sheep clothing; meaning to calculably deceive and subtly spur on passions aganist those with whom they differ on matters not even remotly related to that which they write..

Posted by: leopoldhooke | April 6, 2010 2:49 PM | Report abuse

Kornblutt’s 15 Paragraph 600 Word Filler Shows She is Overtaxed

Even by the current dumbed out standards of “journalism”, the article she wrote here was a doozy. Instead of using the opportunity provided by one of the nation’s largest and most influential newspapers to enlighten her readers on the tax effects of the new health bill, Ms. Kornblutt chose to complain that we are being given too much information and allowed her overtaxed brain to shut out anything substantive. She mostly provided a count of the number of words used and the number of points made by the President but made no effort to explain these points or their meaning to the American public.

It was not evident she enlightened any minds with this article. The subscribers read politely, but several simply lined their bird cages with it before they had finished it.

It would have been nice if she had actually tried to explain the answer for her readers rather than just complain about it. One of the difficulties in the current political discussion is the focus by so-called journalists on trivialities while ignoring matters of substance. When even the President can’t get an important message out through the noise, the American public suffers.

Perhaps that’s why people are considering newspapers less relevant. They can get all the trivialities they want from cable news with much more entertaining visuals. Perhaps one day newspapers will retake the high ground of dealing with issues and explaining their relevance to their readers. Then we will be able to have meaningful debate and discussions again.


Posted by: BigGfromthecoast | April 6, 2010 2:48 PM | Report abuse

sarah-bodera:
"So what we said was, look, if you make more than $200,000, $250,000 a year, then that money that you make over $200,000, $250,000 a year that's unearned."

Thanks to sara for showing the words straight from Obama's own mouth.... Progressives/liberals believe if you make more than $250k, you must be stealing it. You obviously can't be earning it legitimately. [Insert redistribute-the-wealth sermon here]

But Obama isn't a socialist, because he says so....

Posted by: dbw1 | April 6, 2010 2:48 PM | Report abuse

Kornblutt’s 15 Paragraph 600 Word Filler Shows She is Overtaxed

Even by the current dumbed out standards of “journalism”, the article she wrote here was a doozy. Instead of using the opportunity provided by one of the nation’s largest and most influential newspapers to enlighten her readers on the tax effects of the new health bill, Ms. Kornblutt chose to complain that we are being given too much information and allowed her overtaxed brain to shut out anything substantive. She mostly provided a count of the number of words used and the number of points made by the President but made no effort to explain these points or their meaning to the American public.

It was not evident she enlightened any minds with this article. The subscribers read politely, but several simply lined their bird cages with it before they had finished it.

It would have been nice if she had actually tried to explain the answer for her readers rather than just complain about it. One of the difficulties in the current political discussion is the focus by so-called journalists on trivialities while ignoring matters of substance. When even the President can’t get an important message out through the noise, the American public suffers.

Perhaps that’s why people are considering newspapers less relevant. They can get all the trivialities they want from cable news with much more entertaining visuals. Perhaps one day newspapers will retake the high ground of dealing with issues and explaining their relevance to their readers. Then we will be able to have meaningful debate and discussions again.


Posted by: BigGfromthecoast | April 6, 2010 2:47 PM | Report abuse

@aloliver - Clearly you still do not understand! Obama is lying to you and serving the private for profit insurance companies that he is beholden to for funding his past and future election costs.

The point is that what Obama said was a lie. United States pays almost double for health care than other countries that have single payer health care systems do.

For example, the U.S. spends much more on health care than Canada, both on a per-capita basis and as a percentage of GDP.

In 2006, per-capita spending for health care in Canada was US$3,678; in the U.S., US$6,714. The U.S. spent 15.3% of GDP on health care in that year; Canada spent 10.0%.

Posted by: dave- | April 6, 2010 2:47 PM | Report abuse

aloliver:
"Reagan and Bush Sr cut taxes, the debt skyrocketed..."

Liberals tend to struggle with concepts like "math", so let me help. A deficit is the difference between revenue and spending. When you spend more than your income, you have deficits.

So liberals can only be correct that Reagan/Bush tax cuts (and might as well include JFK's tax cuts) CAUSED deficits if they can show that revenue decreased. But the inconvenient truth is that tax rate cuts spurred economic growth, and brought in MORE income to government coffers.

The rising deficits were the result of exploding SPENDING. If you want to talk about slashing SPENDING to bring deficits back down, conservatives will be all ears.

Posted by: dbw1 | April 6, 2010 2:41 PM | Report abuse

>@aloliver - Answering the question IS SIMPLE, if you tell the truth!

What a bunch of rubbish. By that logic, all longer explanations are lies. How does one explain why taxes are where they are without going into some detail? I'm surprised he kept it to 17 minutes.

Of course, an answer to the simple-minded, should be kept short and should use as few syllables as possible. Maybe Obama's mistake was giving the woman more credit (for being intelligent) than she deserved.

Posted by: aloliver | April 6, 2010 2:39 PM | Report abuse

@yusufalkindi - No, we heard what Obama said, The point is that what Obama said was a lie. United States pays almost double for health care than other countries that have single payer health care systems do.

For example, the U.S. spends much more on health care than Canada, both on a per-capita basis and as a percentage of GDP.

In 2006, per-capita spending for health care in Canada was US$3,678; in the U.S., US$6,714. The U.S. spent 15.3% of GDP on health care in that year; Canada spent 10.0%.

Posted by: dave- | April 6, 2010 2:32 PM | Report abuse

Overtaxed ? What a joke. We have two wars that are yet to be paid for. We have the 'tax breaks' provided by Bush that have to be paid for. We have the Social Security shortfall to pay for. Overtaxed, don't make me laugh.

Posted by: buddecj | April 6, 2010 2:26 PM | Report abuse

I am not surprised that some people will attack Ovbama without even having read what he said. There are some people who aer happy to be taxed if their money goes to finance a horrible war, but do not want to pay for hospitals, schools and social services. Some people are willing to pay for death but not life. Go figure! Conservative love death.

Posted by: yusufalkindi | April 6, 2010 2:22 PM | Report abuse

I am not surprised that some people will attack Ovbama without even having read what he said. There are some people who aer happy to be taxed if their money goes to finance a horrible war, but do not want to pay for hospitals, schools and social services. Some people are willing to pay for death but not life. Go figure! Conservative love death.

Posted by: yusufalkindi | April 6, 2010 2:21 PM | Report abuse

17 minutes and 2,500 words to just confirm another 'LIE'....thats a whole lot of typical liberal babble...obama just like to run his mouth with non-sense so people like racheal MANdow can get a boner on her show.

Posted by: JWx2 | April 6, 2010 2:19 PM | Report abuse

17 minutes and 2,500 words to just confirm another 'LIE'....thats a whole lot of typical liberal babble...obama just like to run his mouth with non-sense so people like racheal MANdow can get a boner on her show.

Posted by: JWx2 | April 6, 2010 2:19 PM | Report abuse

17 minutes and 2,500 words to just confirm another 'LIE'....thats a whole lot of typical liberal babble...obama just like to run his mouth with non-sense so people like racheal MANdow can get a boner on her show.

Posted by: JWx2 | April 6, 2010 2:19 PM | Report abuse

17 minutes and 2,500 words to just confirm another 'LIE'....thats a whole lot of typical liberal babble...obama just like to run his mouth with non-sense so people like racheal MANdow can get a boner on her show.

Posted by: JWx2 | April 6, 2010 2:19 PM | Report abuse

17 minutes and 2,500 words to just confirm another 'LIE'....thats a whole lot of typical liberal babble...obama just like to run his mouth with non-sense so people like racheal MANdow can get a boner on her show.

Posted by: JWx2 | April 6, 2010 2:19 PM | Report abuse

17 minutes and 2,500 words to just confirm another 'LIE'....thats a whole lot of typical liberal babble...obama just like to run his mouth with non-sense so people like racheal MANdow can get a boner on her show.

Posted by: JWx2 | April 6, 2010 2:19 PM | Report abuse

17 minutes and 2,500 words to just confirm another 'LIE'....thats a whole lot of typical liberal babble...obama just like to run his mouth with non-sense so people like racheal MANdow can get a boner on her show.

Posted by: JWx2 | April 6, 2010 2:19 PM | Report abuse

17 minutes and 2,500 words to just confirm another 'LIE'....thats a whole lot of typical liberal babble...obama just like to run his mouth with non-sense so people like racheal MANdow can get a boner on her show.

Posted by: JWx2 | April 6, 2010 2:19 PM | Report abuse

17 minutes and 2,500 words to just confirm another 'LIE'....thats a whole lot of typical liberal babble...obama just like to run his mouth with non-sense so people like racheal MANdow can get a boner on her show.

Posted by: JWx2 | April 6, 2010 2:19 PM | Report abuse

17 minutes and 2,500 words to just confirm another 'LIE'....thats a whole lot of typical liberal babble...obama just like to run his mouth with non-sense so people like racheal MANdow can get a boner on her show.

Posted by: JWx2 | April 6, 2010 2:19 PM | Report abuse

Taxes paid this year were designed to lower the taxes for those earning less than 60K a year - by both outgoing President Bush and the changes done after President Obmana came in - and to shift more of the taxes to higher paying people by limiting deductions (see way below on my comment on this). In my case my tax rate went from 20.2% last year for Federal to 25% this year - We fell into the bracket that PAYED for the the lowering of those taxes of people below me. You see, the college education I spent years at which allowed me to earn more, thus I can support more people below me who chose / are incapable of attending - which is what "tax breaks" and "tax credits" and "subsidies" is all about - shifting the tax burden to people making more to support those making less.

"Tax Burden", to me, is the TOTAL amount of taxes paid by all means at every level of government. in our case, 42% of our GROSS pay went to all the various forms of taxes from Federal on down this year.

If people think that this is a low tax burden then we should elimiant all tax brackets and let everyone just pay 25% of all gross pay to the Federal government to make it "fair" to all - but then the same people who make 20K a year would complain if they lost 25% of THEIR pay to taxes and only those who make 75K a year should lose 25% of THEIR pay since they make more money. So a 75K bracket would lose 18,750 to taxes while a 20K worker just lost 5,000 - both paid 25% but who paid MORE in taxes? This is crux of the problem about trying to have a flat tax system. One reason we have brackets in the tax code.

No matter what benefit is given to one group of our nation - someone ELSE has to pay for it.

One person's benefit is another person's tax.

The health care bill, and really every other entitlement program, follows this logic.

Posted by: TomPhilo | April 6, 2010 2:18 PM | Report abuse

>I get so frustrated reading ignorant posts!!! The tax cut Bush gave to the so called "rich" is not the reason for any of our economies problems. Those cuts allowed the people with money to have and spend more.

Talk about ignorant posts.

Reagan and Bush Sr cut taxes, the debt skyrocketed, and so they had to reverse their position, with Reagan signing into law the biggest tax increase in history up to that point. And Bush Sr. had to raise taxes, despite his promise not to, probably costing him the next election!

Bush Jr, on the other hand, failed to learn from his predecessors, and didn't have the humility and guts to raise taxes. (And PAYGO was circumvented and left to die as well) That brought the US to the brink of another full on depression till Obama comes along and is forced to tactically spend the US out of the situation, as FDR did, finally putting the brakes on the fall.

And now you want the US to go back to what got us to the precipice?

That truly is ignorant, and extremely dangerous, not to mention incredibly selfish.

Posted by: aloliver | April 6, 2010 2:18 PM | Report abuse

17 minutes and 2,500 words to just confirm another 'LIE'....thats a whole lot of typical liberal babble...obama just like to run his mouth with non-sense so people like racheal MANdow can get a boner on her show.

Posted by: JWx2 | April 6, 2010 2:18 PM | Report abuse

17 minutes and 2,500 words to just confirm another 'LIE'....thats a whole lot of typical liberal babble...obama just like to run his mouth with non-sense so people like racheal MANdow can get a boner on her show.

Posted by: JWx2 | April 6, 2010 2:16 PM | Report abuse

17 minutes and 2,500 words to just confirm another 'LIE'....thats a whole lot of typical liberal babble...obama just like to run his mouth with non-sense so people like racheal MANdow can get a boner on her show.

Posted by: JWx2 | April 6, 2010 2:16 PM | Report abuse

We are over-taxed as it is.

Posted by: slikk66 | April 6, 2010 2:16 PM | Report abuse

17 minutes and 2,500 words to just confirm another 'LIE'....thats a whole lot of typical liberal babble...obama just like to run his mouth with non-sense so people like racheal MANdow and get a boner on her show.

Posted by: JWx2 | April 6, 2010 2:15 PM | Report abuse

17 minutes and 2,500 words to just confirm another 'LIE'....thats a whole lot of typical liberal babble...obama just like to run his mouth with non-sense so people like racheal MANdow and get a boner on her show.

Posted by: JWx2 | April 6, 2010 2:15 PM | Report abuse

tpartier guy...

"You are posting here. And just because you are willing to give up the rights considered inalienable according to the laws of our land does not mean the rest of us are.

As for your earlier rant about 100 years ago here is another view. The US has become the greatest country on earth withiout the benefit of government mandated health care. How could that have happened? It is okay to disagree with you right comrade, this is still America?"


Remember, I said, 'most of the people posting here'. Actually there are some quite sane ones as well...just very few. And while we became great w/o a healthcare plan, we didn't become great without paying taxes for all sorts of things, as I've pointed out. You gotta read the post I was referring to. The 20th Century was when we really became great and 1913 was when income tax became law. And I don't rant, unless it's about poison oak...boy, do I hate poison oak. Poison ivy, not so much. I'm not allergic to poison ivy, you see.

And I can understand you not wanting to do your part to help other Americans with less than you have; it's a free country. You're free to only care about yourself. I was just brought up differently.

And I realize it's difficult having to actually think and try to parse out what an intelligent president or politition says...we're just not used to having to do that much in this century and it can be hard, all that thinking. You don't have to do that either if it's too much- that's your right as well. Just don't pretend you did, it doesn't become you.

And since I don't like or really agree with many people at all, the last thing I am is anybody's comrade. Anyway, I thought Obama (and now presumably myself as well) was a Socialist Nazi Facist. A comrade would be a communist...are we that too?

I know...we're Liberal Socio-commie-nazi-islamo-facist-(and in my case godless and in Obama's a baptist foreigner) who're trying to take over the big corporations who control him by forcing them to lower prices in a mandated private pool for Americans to buy cheaper healthcare from them so that he make them even more money by making them charge less for more people to join...uh, wait... I can never remember exactly what you guys think.It gets confusing. I mean, I try to listen to what Michael Savage tells us, but it gets a little twisted. Oh yeah, we're just wrong, that's it...

(Ah, you know, I was gonna go over this and edit it and all, but I realized I really don't care. I'm not gonna change my mind and you're pointless to argue with)

Tea Party on dude.

Posted by: chuckterzella1 | April 6, 2010 2:15 PM | Report abuse

17 minutes and 2,500 words to just confirm another 'LIE'....thats a whole lot of typical liberal babble...obama just like to run his mouth with non-sense so people like racheal MANdow and get a boner on her show.

Posted by: JWx2 | April 6, 2010 2:14 PM | Report abuse

I expect the Obama dance of drama and deception to continue. How could it be otherwise when NEITHER party represents the American people! BOTH parties represent insurance companies interests. As a result, insurance companies make billions of dollars collecting insurance premiums for health care expenses the government pays for with your tax money. It is a great scam funded by insurance companies who pay BOTH parties. Until campaign finance reform it won’t be fixed either.

United States pays almost double for health care than other countries that have single payer health care systems do. The problem is that both Republicans and Democrat parties are beholden to special interests that fund their campaigns and there is no way either party has any intention of doing what is best for the American people until campaign finance reform fixes that problem!

You are a fool if you believe the lies you have been told about health care. The U.S. spends much more on health care than Canada, both on a per-capita basis and as a percentage of GDP. In 2006, per-capita spending for health care in Canada was US$3,678; in the U.S., US$6,714. The U.S. spent 15.3% of GDP on health care in that year; Canada spent 10.0%.

The U.S. spends more per capita than any other nation in the world and is the only wealthy industrialized country in the world that lacks some form of universal health care. The truth is simple, if you went to a Canadian hospital or a or a large U.S. HMO hospital, such as Kaiser, you could not tell the difference between the two. They both have the same problems.

Posted by: dave- | April 6, 2010 2:14 PM | Report abuse

Obama directly answered her question about taxes. His response is not fully covered in this article.

This is an exceprt from the transcripts found here: http://tpmlivewire.talkingpointsmemo.com/2010/04/obama-tough-measures-have-helped.php

"The other half of it, it is true that we have identified some additional taxes that we think are fair. And let me describe, just to give you an example -- I don't think this will affect you, but I don't know -- I don't know your family's circumstances. Right now, if you're on salary, you get your salary from Celgard or any of the companies around here, you're paying your Medicare tax on all of that, right? You see it on your -- it's part of your FICA. But if you're Warren Buffett and you get most of your money from dividends and capital gains, you don't pay Medicare tax on that. You're eligible for it. You're going to get the same Medicare benefits as anybody else. But because your source of income is what's called unearned income -- capital gains and dividends -- you don't have to pay this.

Well, I'm thinking to myself how is it that the guy who is cleaning up the office is paying the Medicare tax and the guy who is making capital gains isn't? So what we said was, look, if you make more than $200,000, $250,000 a year, then that money that you make over $200,000, $250,000 a year that's unearned -- that's from capital gains and dividends -- you should have to pitch in to Medicare just like everybody else, because you're going to be using it like everybody else. So it's a concept of fairness. (Applause.)"

Posted by: sarah-bodera | April 6, 2010 2:12 PM | Report abuse

I think Debmries and a most of the posters are confusing the Federal "marginal tax rates" with the Federal effective tax rate (the marginal rate is the rate paid on the next dollar of income--the effective rate is you total Federal tax divided by your Adjusted gross income (AGI). If most you poster were not lazy or dumb, and if you would do your own taxes instead of filling up a box of records and going to H&R Block on the 14th of April, you would know what marginal and effective tax rates are. Buy Turbo Tax or some other tax preparation annd do you own taxes. Only then will you understand what and why you are paying to your Governments.

In 2009 my wife and I had $135,000 in income. No rich, but not poor. We had no extraordinary deductions (only mortgage interest, real property taxes, taxes on our vehicles and an 1985 fishing boat). Our AGI was $111,000. We are in the 25% marginal tax bracket. Our total Federal tax bill was $20,175---our Federal effective tax rate was 15.09% ($20,175 divided by $135,000 equals 15.09%). Our state income tax was $4,415, which was also a deduction on our Federal return. Plus, I estimate we probably spent another $2,000 on other miscellaneous taxes (sales taxes, gas taxes, telephone taxes, etc.). In total we paid about $26,000 to $27,000 in all taxes. $27,000 divide by $135,000 equals a total effective tax rate of 20%. Considering all that I get from all my Governments-police and fire, schools, national defense, parks and recreation, roads, etc., etc., etc.--to me I am getting a hell of a bargain for my tax dollars. Oh yeah--I do not include Social Security and Medicare taxes---I will get that money back in multiples.

So, quit whining about taxes. You have it a lot better than you think!!!
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Posted by: wmason5 | April 6, 2010 2:12 PM | Report abuse

Obama directly answered her question about taxes. His response is not fully covered in this article.

This is an exceprt from teh trranscripts found here: http://tpmlivewire.talkingpointsmemo.com/2010/04/obama-tough-measures-have-helped.php

"The other half of it, it is true that we have identified some additional taxes that we think are fair. And let me describe, just to give you an example -- I don't think this will affect you, but I don't know -- I don't know your family's circumstances. Right now, if you're on salary, you get your salary from Celgard or any of the companies around here, you're paying your Medicare tax on all of that, right? You see it on your -- it's part of your FICA. But if you're Warren Buffett and you get most of your money from dividends and capital gains, you don't pay Medicare tax on that. You're eligible for it. You're going to get the same Medicare benefits as anybody else. But because your source of income is what's called unearned income -- capital gains and dividends -- you don't have to pay this.

Well, I'm thinking to myself how is it that the guy who is cleaning up the office is paying the Medicare tax and the guy who is making capital gains isn't? So what we said was, look, if you make more than $200,000, $250,000 a year, then that money that you make over $200,000, $250,000 a year that's unearned -- that's from capital gains and dividends -- you should have to pitch in to Medicare just like everybody else, because you're going to be using it like everybody else. So it's a concept of fairness. (Applause.)"

Posted by: sarah-bodera | April 6, 2010 2:11 PM | Report abuse

>It is strictly someone calling him out for not answering the question.

@aloliver - Answering the question IS SIMPLE, if you tell the truth!

Obama did not tell the truth. Instead he tried to baffle us with 2500 words. The truth is we should have a single payer health insurance like the rest of the civilized world. Obama is betraying the people who voted for him and serving the rich insurance companies who paid.

Posted by: dave- | April 6, 2010 2:03 PM | Report abuse

Anne, the tone of your writing seems to reflect a dislike of complexity. Once upon a time among a journalist's skills was the ability to simplify the complex. This is clearly beyond you, because while you describe the SHAPE of his argument [multiple points made up of subcategories], and you illustrate the ENTERTAINMENT VALUE of his response [boring], you don't illuminate the CONTENT.

Perhaps you yearn for an earlier time, like the last presidency, when a response might have been "It's clearly a budget. It's got a lot of numbers in it." Or maybe it could have been "A tax cut is really one of the anecdotes to coming out of an economic illness."

Yes, things were much simpler then.

Posted by: robW2 | April 6, 2010 2:02 PM | Report abuse

From tomandgail1: "For ye suffer fools gladly, seeing ye yourselves are wise."
~Bible, II Corinthians 11:19 (KJV)

YOU HAVE ELECTED INTO A POSITION OF AUTHORITY, A POMPOUS, IGNORANT, ARROGANT ASS, AND HAVE PLACED HIM AT THE HEAD OF OTHER LIKE-MINDED HUMANOIDS.]]]


I really love how you quote biblical scripture here and then, immediately following, throw out unnecessary personal insults. People like you give religion a bad name.

Posted by: beatty123 | April 6, 2010 1:50 PM | Report abuse

Mr. President what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.

Posted by: njguyindabeltway | April 6, 2010 1:48 PM | Report abuse

abbydelabbey:
"For all of those who complain about paying "more taxes" - please remember the parable of the Good Samaritan. So, instead of griping -- how about helping your fellow human being?"

I love when liberals try to play the religion card in the who's-more-compassionate debate. Tell me, abbydelabbey, the Good Samaritan...did he use his own money to help the guy he found beaten up along the road, or was the Good Samaritan a bureaucrat from Rome who went to the nearest rich guy's house and demand he pay more taxes to help the guy in need?

Do me a favor, abbydelabbey, google "charitable giving by liberals vs conservatives"....tell us what you find. Let me help....you will find that every study finds that conservatives are far more willing to give of their OWN time and money to charitable causes than are their liberal counterparts, regardless of race, income level, age, etc.

Liberals tend to only be compassionate with other peoples money. Sorry, that's not how I define "compassion".

Posted by: dbw1 | April 6, 2010 1:45 PM | Report abuse

I get so frustrated reading ignorant posts!!! The tax cut Bush gave to the so called "rich" is not the reason for any of our economies problems. Those cuts allowed the people with money to have and spend more. I guess you think its fair for successful people to pay a higher %.....why? Why should I pay a higher % than you. I am already paying more if we are being taxed the same %.

Keep taxing the successful and see how many choose to go to school the extra years to succeed. This country will become a nation of dummies who have no motivation to succeed. Taking money out of the hands of people who have it will only result on them spending less of it.....to their employees, yard man, maid, local charities, etc. You shouldn't bite the hand that feeds you. I am in the so called richest 1% and I can tell you one thing....I am far from rich. By the time I pay for all my fellow Americans who are too lazy and uneducated to "live" I barely have anything left for my kids future. I have no problem helping the disadvantaged, but a mom on medicaid who is having her 4th kid is hardly my problem. Quit sucking off the people who worked very hard and in many cases built massive amounts of debt to become "rich".

Posted by: cannonmw | April 6, 2010 1:41 PM | Report abuse

>It is strictly someone calling him out for not answering the question.

No it's not. It's a slap at Obama for giving a real answer and going into detail and pointing out all the different ramifications, rather than giving a political answer that is easily translated into a headline.

How would you answer the question of "Why are we taxed so much?" Your choice is to go into detail of why the money is spent the way it is and how we got to where we are, or to say something simple-minded, as Palin does.

I understand that people want things simple, but unfortunately, that is not usually the way things are, and some brain energy will need to be expended. Press "Off" on your remote.

Posted by: aloliver | April 6, 2010 1:41 PM | Report abuse

debmries,
Your idea of success is marriage? interesting!!
You can solve your problem easily. Get divorced and keep living together and save on taxes.

Posted by: cntwt2cu | April 6, 2010 1:23 PM

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Studies have shown that married people live longer and are happier.

Also, the decline in marriage has contributed to our decline in society and actually contributed to the financial collapse in 2008.

I like being married. I love family life.

Societies with the strongest families are the strongest societies.

I never said being married was being successful, I was talking about successful people who happen to marry are grossly punished- the point it that married people are being discriminated agaisnt and yet they are the foundation of a strong society.


Posted by: debmries | April 6, 2010 1:38 PM | Report abuse

If the federal government can penalize citizens to purchase a commodity, why stop with healthcare insurance? What about inferior and poor people mandating requirements that the wealthy purchase inferior products for the benefit of the collective?

The Constitution, under a representative Republic ruled by an “elite,” limits the power of the majority and safeguards the rights of the wealthy to life, liberty and property, and for the wealthy to pursue their own interests (happiness), independent of the collective.
Where the rich have independent means to protect themselves, the rule of law also protects them, regardless of their wealth, from an illegitimate centralized federal government that would strip them of their property in the interests of the country.

Now the floodgate is open for transformational change to our American-style, capitalist oligarchy government, where the elite are brought down to the level of the collective, rejecting individual liberty and asserting ‘need’ as a claim against the rights of the wealthy.

Posted by: ILMom [This is, I believe, what the words were intended to say.]

Posted by: kengelhart | April 6, 2010 1:34 PM | Report abuse

What is the correct protocol now for asking the president a question? I mean, do you look directly at the President, or does it make more sense to address the question to the teleprompter?

Posted by: eyesonpath | April 6, 2010 1:25 PM | Report abuse

What is the correct protocol now for asking the president a question? I mean, do you look directly at the President, or does it make more sense to address the question to the teleprompter?

Posted by: eyesonpath | April 6, 2010 1:24 PM | Report abuse

debmries,
Your idea of success is marriage? interesting!!
You can solve your problem easily. Get divorced and keep living together and save on taxes.

Posted by: cntwt2cu | April 6, 2010 1:23 PM | Report abuse

Bottom line - if this were a good bill Obama wouldn't have to be out there trying to sell it. If it were a good bill Obama would have been able to answer the woman's question in less than 3 minutes even if he were feeling chatty that day. A long winded non-answer only means that he didn't have a good answer and was hoping everyone would forget the question.

Posted by: 3boysmountainmom | April 6, 2010 1:20 PM | Report abuse

To all the "intellectual" people that are complaining about not wanting "sound bytes" don't get the sarcasm that Anne is so politely pointing out...he didn't answer the question! This article has nothing to do with making fun of his articulation and his fine speaking ability. It is strictly someone calling him out for not answering the question. He cannot and will not answer that very basic question. "was it a wise decision to add more taxes to us with the health care package?" Please Mr. Obama, we all want you to give us an answer, long or short, just answer the question!

Posted by: brianeagan | April 6, 2010 1:17 PM | Report abuse

If only Sarah Palin had been there to give a three word nudge-nudge wink-wink answer. Then there would be no deficit and not even the one person you cited would have a chance to yawn. God Bless Misinformation!

Posted by: flavor13 | April 6, 2010 1:13 PM | Report abuse

I think our #1 priority should be to reform welfare. We pay for able bodies that could work and choose not to and for for illegal's to get medical attention. We pay for free breakfast and lunches for kids at school. We pay for goverment housing. We pay for groceries. We pay for teachers to teach ENGLISH. We even give uniforms to kids whoes parents choose not to work or just take advantage of system. Now I do believe in helping the elderly and handicap don't take me wrong. Welfare was for temporary help not a life time pay check.

Posted by: m19650 | April 6, 2010 1:12 PM | Report abuse

He's not trainable

Posted by: jagge5 | April 6, 2010 1:11 PM | Report abuse

Every married couple will pay higher taxes in this bill - extremely higher for those making over $250,000/year. If 2 single people make $200,000 each, live together, own a home together, have kids together, they can make up to $400,000. But if you are married - only $250,000. These married peoples' tax rate are going from 35% to 43.4% plus min alternative tax (up to 5.4%).
Dividends are going from 15% to 43.4%
Capital Gains from 15% to 23.8%

However all married people will pay higher taxes all the way down to those who make $30,000/year.

I don't know about anyone - but this is insane and unreasonable tax rates and unfair punishment for success.

Posted by: debmries | April 6, 2010 1:09 PM | Report abuse

Wow, Anne: How the heck do we deal with a president like Obama after the likes of GWBush? Have reporters forgotten how to think, too? Imagine a multi-layered, information-filled answer, rather than a vacuous comment delivered with a smirk? More obnoxious than the comment of a woman (who probably is in a very low tax bracket) complaining that she is "overtaxed", is your inane summation of the exchange. Time for reporters to start acting like reporters again, and not the stenographers you were under GWBush and his ilk.

Posted by: nancyt3 | April 6, 2010 1:06 PM | Report abuse

seethewest: "As an older teenager when I was forming my own view of the world I noticed my parents' prejudices were well established. I've spent my whole life trying to figure these so-called conservatives out. They are more fearful,cling more to authority, and are suspicious of change."

I confirm your observations and conclusions.

Yours in solidarity and civilization,
L. Kurt Engelhart

Posted by: kengelhart | April 6, 2010 1:06 PM | Report abuse

>YOU HAVE ELECTED INTO A POSITION OF AUTHORITY, A POMPOUS, IGNORANT, ARROGANT ASS, AND HAVE PLACED HIM AT THE HEAD OF OTHER LIKE-MINDED HUMANOIDS.

True, but we replaced him with Barack Obama.

Posted by: aloliver | April 6, 2010 1:06 PM | Report abuse

Wow, Anne: How the heck do we deal with a president like Obama after the likes of GWBush? Have reporters forgotten how to think, too? Imagine a multi-layered, information-filled answer, rather than a vacuous comment delivered with a smirk? More obnoxious than the comment of a woman (who probably is in a very low tax bracket) complaining that she is "overtaxed", is your inane summation of the exchange. Time for reporters to start acting like reporters again, and not the stenographers you were under GWBush and his ilk.

Posted by: nancyt3 | April 6, 2010 1:05 PM | Report abuse

"For ye suffer fools gladly, seeing ye yourselves are wise."
~Bible, II Corinthians 11:19 (KJV)

The phrase, "he does not suffer fools lightly" is often used to describe people in positions of power who are, well, jerks who decide for themselves who is a fool and treat YOU people with disdain.

YOU HAVE ELECTED INTO A POSITION OF AUTHORITY, A POMPOUS, IGNORANT, ARROGANT ASS, AND HAVE PLACED HIM AT THE HEAD OF OTHER LIKE-MINDED HUMANOIDS.

ALWAYS, ALWAYS INTERRUPT THEM AND SHOUT THEM DOWN! SCREAM AND SHOUT AT THEM TO JUST ANSWER THE QUESTION! NEVER, DO NOT EVER GIVE UP THAT FIGHT!DON'T EVER LET ANYONE BEAT YOU SENSELESS WITH SENSELESS CHATTER!

Posted by: tomandgail1 | April 6, 2010 1:01 PM | Report abuse

I remember Obama's response to Joe-the-Plumber: That he would "spread the wealth around." That was the answer Obama was talking around this time.

Posted by: tina5 | April 6, 2010 1:01 PM | Report abuse

I love it that some of the Repubs on this thread are now criticizing health care for not including some of the things/ideas that Republicans fought against before the law was enacted.

Remember folks, you removed yourselves from helping by voting no, no matter what. Some of your reps even bragged about that. Had you participated and compromised to make it better, rather than just saying no and offering faux proposals, then your criticisms might be taken more seriously.

But now your words ring so very hollow.

Posted by: aloliver | April 6, 2010 1:01 PM | Report abuse

I remember Obama's response to Joe-the-Plumber: That he would "spread the wealth around." That was the answer Obama was talking around this time.

Posted by: tina5 | April 6, 2010 1:00 PM | Report abuse

Perhaps, for just a moment, we should remember that while we may not be members of the same political parties we are all citizens of the same great nation. Both parties have valid points to make and neither represent the true beliefs of their members. Believe it or not we have more in common with each other, as citizens, than we have with any of the politicians currently voted into office. The more we fight each other, the more we lose. We lose control of our government, we lose control of our economy and each day we lose a bit more of the freedom we once took for granted. We either learn to work together to bring about change to our political system or we recognize that we are going to fail together as a people and as a nation. The health care issue is one of many that will serve those who need it least the most and those who need it most the least. In the end we all lose, we can't sustain a program that deprives so many and serves so few. Yes, as a nation, we should make available the most basic health care to those who need it. This so-called reform package will not accomplish that goal. It is a deeply flawed legislation. It could have been different, if we had worked together to change it, instead of screaming at each other about who was right and who was wrong. Now we're stuck with it and it doesn't matter who we blame. In the end we can only blame ourselves.

Posted by: joe75 | April 6, 2010 12:59 PM | Report abuse

If the federal government can penalize citizens to purchase a commodity, why stop with healthcare insurance? What about government-mandated requirements that individuals purchase government majority-owed GM vehicles for the benefit of the collective?

The Constitution, under a representative Republic ruled by law, limits the majority and safeguards the rights of the individual to life, liberty and property, and for the individual to pursue one’s own interests (happiness), independent of the collective.

Where the rich have means to protect themselves, the rule of law protects each individual regardless of means from an all-powerful centralized federal government. Government taking always trickles down – remember the Federal Income Tax was to be applied only to the top 1%.

Now the floodgate is open for transformational change to a European-style, socialist oligarchy government, where the elitist few rule in the best interest of the collective, rejecting individual liberty and asserting ‘need’ as a claim against the rights of the individual.

Posted by: ILMom | April 6, 2010 12:43 PM | Report abuse

How generous of President Obama to take the trouble to provide detail! How respectful of President Obama to speak to the smartest, rather than the dullest, among us! I'm so sorry Ms. Kornblut seems to prefer pablum fed in Bushian soundbytes.

President Obama satisfied the woman's question in a few sentences and then took that opportunity to educate those of us who want a more global understanding on the subject.

PS: and yes, Annie, the deficit is affected by taxes.

Posted by: Maezeppa | April 6, 2010 12:40 PM | Report abuse

Hmmm, let's see:
1. privatizing health care, legally and criminally forcing the citizens to pay for their own health care instead of providing it free to all citizens, (like the EU). This is his idea of "fixing" the health care issue? Make you the criminal when you cant afford to pay for your own health care?
2. the EU, by providing health care free to all citizens, has a vested interest in PREVENTING health care problems hence why they ban chemicals that CAUSE heath problems. Heaven forbid the USA government actually look out for the health of its citizens rather than make tax money after the health problems exist by collecting on your treatments and insurance payments.
3. this was the new deal: increase government revenue by fining citizens and small companies who cant afford private health care insurance policies?
What a moron you people elected. You deserve whatever he and his band of thieves do to you.

Posted by: relasker | April 6, 2010 12:33 PM | Report abuse

What a terrible article - I didn't know Anne Kornblut was so simpleminded. Maybe she should get a job writing for ET instead of the Washington Post. Generally, those of us who read the Post PREFER longer, more complex answers - whether we agree with the speaker's thesis or not.

Posted by: clampson | April 6, 2010 12:33 PM | Report abuse

Quote: "Where were all you anti-gov't folks when "the decider" ordered illegal wire-taps, broke international laws with torture, shoved the Patriot Act down our throats (which is the worst form of gov't intrusion) that allows them to read my emails etc.? And, the ultimate gov't invasion is that they feel they have control over MY uterus! Excuse Me?

Maybe you would rather have the kind of laisez-faire (do you read french?) system where companies can poison baby formula and dog food - oh yes, the 'free market' - it is exactly what goes on in China. I for one, like having the gov't make sure I have clean air and water (I drink tap water, not bottled), meat without E-coli, a bank that can't charge me 200% interest, safe bridges and airplanes, and that my boss has to give me time to pee and have lunch that they didn't have to do in the "good old days" - they could make you work 60 hours a week. All you union haters - the union is the only reason we have a 40 hour week and a minimum wage and somewhat safer working conditions." ....from fiberartist..

*********True...ALL true....******BUT (isn't there always!?) the difference was that all THOSE folks actually worked - and worked hard and deserved a few simple, decent benefits.


We are now engaged in transferring aproximately one-third of the health safety-net of THOSE WHO WORK directly to THOSE WHO DO NOT!

If your Mom or Dad is on "Medicare" and they loose 1/3 of their benefits, that is can't have a test or medication WILL YOU BE ABLE TO PAY THE DIFFERENCE?

If you are a Baby-Boomer sliding into homeplate and also going on Medicare WILL YOU BEE ABLE TO PAY THE DIFFERENCE TO HAVE THE MEDS AND TEST YOU NEED?

If there are 30- or 42 - or 57 million (all numbers used by Obama) people without health-insurance I want to know why and how? And do they drink? Smoke? Gamble? YES! the same old morality tests!! If you waste your money and life WHY SHOULD I PICKUP YOUR TAB?

Posted by: anderson2 | April 6, 2010 12:32 PM | Report abuse

Anne, come on. Are you saying that detailed explanations are bad and that, by default, we should be more satisfied with "sound bytes"? And that 1 yawner on the podium verifies that? The title of the aricle, "17 minute, 2500 word" would indicate that. A better title would have been "Americans unable to digest a 17 minute explanation from their President".

By highlighting the length of Obama's response and the yawner, you've made fun of intelligent explanations and the need for complex understanding. While I'd agree with your unwritten assessment that most Americans have a serious attention deficit disorder problem and are basically too dull to follow an argument (as evidenced by some of the responses in this thread), I disagree that that means that Presidents should therefore speak in sound bytes, that are usually half-truths at best.

Articles like this lead me to believe that The Washington Post really does have something to fear from wikileaks, unless of course, you actually do prefer the company of the unthinking masses.

Shall we now turn to wikileaks, rather than The Washington Post, to get to the bottom of a matter?

Posted by: aloliver | April 6, 2010 12:29 PM | Report abuse

What happened in some of your simple, miserable lives to make you so bitter? Grow up.

Posted by: jckdoors | April 6, 2010 12:28 PM | Report abuse

What an interesting article, by a reporter no less. This reporter seems to feel that any answer that hasn't been reduced to a soundbite isn't worth the time it takes to give it. Wouldn't it be great if every problem that our country faced could be summed up in a soundbite, but reality is that our problems are complex and deserve complex discussion. Making fun of an intelligent man becuase he give lenghty answers to complex questions is a bit like making fun of a nuclear physicist for the silly names he/she uses for all the subatomic particles.

We all had a great time making fun of George Bush for his simplistic and often gramatically bizarre answers to questions, but that is very differnet than making fun of someone for the depth of their answers. It's a bit like telling the American people, "don't liten to all the information this guy is trying to give us, it's boring".

Posted by: bjuhasz | April 6, 2010 12:26 PM | Report abuse

Has it occurred to anyone supporting the Healthcare "Reform" bill that people are opposed to it, BECAUSE they care about the people falling through the cracks?

The vast majority of money allocated in this measure is NOT going to help pay the medical bills. It is going to fund studies, fund the development of committees, including committees in each state to discuss raising premiums.

I'm a healthcare provider and I've filed claims, spoken directly with insurance companies several times to advocate for patients, so that they would get the coverage they were paying premiums for. I know the games insurance companies play and this measure is NOT going to put an end to those games. MANDATING that everyone get coverage is only helping the insurance industry. There is a much better and less expensive way to bypass insurance companies, but politicians don't want to hear about it. Both Republicans and Democrats have allies with the insurance industry.

Premiums will go up and covered benefits will go down. It is the only way to cover the cost of covering those with pre-existing conditions.

I believe that people in desperate situations should get real help. The money should go directly toward covering their healthcare costs, not paying for more government positions and pet projects.

This law is only going to make matters worse.

I could go on for more than 17 minutes, but I have patients to see!

Posted by: weneedforesight | April 6, 2010 12:25 PM | Report abuse

So in other words, the President tried to actually address the woman's concerns with facts and cogent reasoning. And this is a bad thing? Maybe if he had responded with something like "I'm the decider" you'd be happy. Way to advocate for intelligent discourse.

Posted by: cdanlj | April 6, 2010 12:25 PM | Report abuse

Anne, come on. Are you saying that detailed explanations are bad and that, by default, we should be more satisfied with "sound bytes"? And that 1 yawner on the podium verifies that? The title of the aricle, "17 minute, 2500 word" would indicate that. A better title would have been "Americans unable to digest a 17 minute explanation from their President".

By highlighting the length of Obama's response and the yawner, you've made fun of intelligent explanations and the need for complex understanding. While I'd agree with your unwritten assessment that most Americans have a serious attention deficit disorder problem and are basically to dull to follow an argument (as evidenced by some of the responses in this thread), I disagree that that means that Presidents should therefore speak in sound bytes that are usually half-truths at best.

Articles like this lead me to believe that The Washington Post really does have something to fear from wikileaks, unless of course, you actually do prefer the company of the unthinking masses.

Shall we now turn to wikileaks, rather than The Washington Post, to get to the bottom of a matter?

Posted by: aloliver | April 6, 2010 12:25 PM | Report abuse

JSINNKJN - nice to blame the problem on the media but of course when Bush was routed it was his fault - the media was completely unbaised - right?

Posted by: gschwartz613 | April 6, 2010 12:24 PM | Report abuse

Obama's 2500 word response?. Isn't that just typical of government bureaucracy? Rambling, convoluted, lack of direct and sincere answers, and time-wasting?

Posted by: Moon714 | April 6, 2010 12:24 PM | Report abuse

Has it occurred to anyone supporting the Healthcare "Reform" bill that people are opposed to it, BECAUSE they care about the people falling through the cracks?

The vast majority of money allocated in this measure is NOT going to help pay the medical bills. It is going to fund studies, fund the development of committees, including committees in each state to discuss raising premiums.

I'm a healthcare provider and I've filed claims, spoken directly with insurance companies several times to advocate for patients, so that they would get the coverage they were paying premiums for. I know the games insurance companies play and this measure is NOT going to put an end to those games. MANDATING that everyone get coverage is only helping the insurance industry. There is a much better and less expensive way to bypass insurance companies, but politicians don't want to hear about it. Both Republicans and Democrats have allies with the insurance industry.

Premiums will go up and covered benefits will go down. It is the only way to cover the cost of covering those with pre-existing conditions.

I believe that people in desperate situations should get real help. The money should go directly toward covering their healthcare costs, not paying for more government positions and pet projects.

This law is only going to make matters worse.

I could go on for more than 17 minutes, but I have patients to see!

Posted by: weneedforesight | April 6, 2010 12:24 PM | Report abuse

So in other words, the President tried to actually address the woman's concerns with facts and cogent reasoning. And this is a bad thing? Maybe if he had responded with something like "I'm the decider" you'd be happy. Way to advocate for intelligent discourse.

Posted by: cdanlj | April 6, 2010 12:16 PM | Report abuse

Anne, come on. Are you saying that detailed explanations are bad and that, by default, we should be more satisfied with "sound bytes"? And that 1 yawner on the podium verifies that? The title of the aricle, "17 minute, 2500 word" would indicate that. A better title would have been "Americans unable to digest a 17 minute explanation from their President".

By highlighting the length of an response and the yawner, you've made fun of intelligent explanations and the need for complex understanding. While I'd agree with your unwritten assessment that most Americans have a serious attention deficit disorder problem and are basically to dull to follow an argument (as evidenced by some of the responses in this thread), I disagree that that means that Presidents should therefore speak in sound bytes that are usually half-truths at best.

Articles like this lead me to believe that The Washington Post really does have something to fear from wikileaks, unless of course, you actually do prefer the company of the unthinking masses.

Shall we now turn to wikileaks, rather than The Washington Post, to get to the bottom of a matter?

Posted by: aloliver | April 6, 2010 12:16 PM | Report abuse

Anne, come on. Are you saying that detailed explanations are bad and that, by default, we should be more satisfied with "sound bytes"? And that 1 yawner on the podium verifies that? The title of the aricle, "17 minute, 2500 word" would indicate that. A better title would have been "Americans unable to digest a 17 minute explanation from their President".

By highlighting the length of an response and the yawner, you've made fun of intelligent explanations and the need for complex understanding. While I'd agree with your unwritten assessment that most Americans have a serious attention deficit disorder problem and are basically to dull to follow an argument, I disagree that that means that Presidents should therefore speak in sound bytes that are usually half-truths at best.

Articles like this lead me to believe that The Washington Post really does have something to fear from wikileaks, unless of course, you actually do prefer the company of the unthinking masses.

Shall we now turn to wikileaks, rather than The Washington Post, to get to the bottom of a matter?

Posted by: aloliver | April 6, 2010 12:12 PM | Report abuse

So in other words, the President tried to actually address the woman's concerns with facts and cogent reasoning. And this is a bad thing? Maybe if he had responded with something like "I'm the decider" you'd be happy. Way to advocate for intelligent discourse.

Posted by: cdanlj | April 6, 2010 12:12 PM | Report abuse

I'm embarrassed for Harvard University......and their alumni.

The guy can't even answer a question without a teleprompter.

ramble, ramble, ramble.....on

Posted by: analgesic33 | April 6, 2010 11:49 AM | Report abuse

My right-wing Republican family berate Obama for daring to improve health insurance coverage for the unlucky Americans who do not have it provided through a job and for his "socialist" agenda. Dad has collected veteran's retirement and medical benefits since '62 after 20 years service, Mom's on medicare, and brother is on SSI disability for the last 28 years after paying into social security 1 1/2 years. These are your typical "tea-baggers". Many of the loudest screamers have their health insurance, thank you very much, but can't stand the idea someone else might get some through tax "redistribution". I have pointed out to them that's what the government does with our taxes: road works and infrastructure, police, military, fire protection, national parks, etc. You know, they just don't get it. Republicans have learned how to convince these people that they have their interests at the forefront of their policies. Truth is, they have the interests of corporations and corporate donations that allow them to get reelected in mind. Oh, Democrats do too - they want to get reelected too and that's the only way to do it in our system, but they also seem to have some concern for the workers, the environment, and the high opinion of fellow nations. It doesn't matter how long Obama's speech is, or how short, these people will not be persuaded with facts. As an older teenager when I was forming my own view of the world I noticed my parents' prejudices were well established. They were Goldwater and Nixon supporters and think Reagan walked on water. How and why I became a progressive liberal I'm not sure. I chalk it up to my social environment, coming of age in the 60s, and to education. My brother just listened to and believed everything the parents said and he joined the Marines out of high school and pursued no higher education. Hey, I've spent my whole life trying to figure these so-called conservatives out. I recently read an article that their brains perform differently than ours. They are more fearful,cling more to authority, and are suspicious of change. I always just naturally questioned authority from about age 12. New ideas, new environments are exciting to me. I believe the brain research has to have the answer.

Posted by: seethewest | April 6, 2010 11:37 AM | Report abuse

Nice piece of sarcasm Anne. I hope you had fun typing your little insults from the safety of your keyboard, while attempting to make our president look like a fool, but I'm afraid all you did, was show your readers how sophomoric you are. Does the Washington Post actually pay you for such drivel?

Posted by: WaxingCynical | April 6, 2010 11:32 AM | Report abuse

What a horrible article. When you take on the responsibility of reporting the news, you should try to remain unbiased, and report the facts. This author made her opinions very clear. I think the whole reason Obama had a 17 minute answer to this womens question is because the media has spread lies and their own opinions (which have no basis in actual fact)to mainstream America. He wanted to clear the air and make sure you people understand what is going on. If youd rather go on about how boring it is then maybe you should go back to grade school with my child and sit through some (as he says) "boring talks". This is your government people you should take the time and learn the truth. Dont just believe everything that Fox news and CNN shove down your throat. Do the research yourself. The most appalling thing to me is the f***ing Supreme Court giving human rights to corperations. Which means they can now funnel unlimited money into politicians pockets. Yeah as if thats not a recipe for coruption. WAKE UP!

Posted by: JSINNKJN | April 6, 2010 11:25 AM | Report abuse

---------Obama is an acronym for; -
--- ' he who spews foam at the mouth without meaning or content --
-----while submitting deceit '...
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Posted by: frankCC | April 6, 2010 11:25 AM | Report abuse

---------Obama is an acronym for; -
--- " he who spews foam at the mouth without meaning or content --
-----while submitting deceit "...
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Posted by: frankCC | April 6, 2010 11:22 AM | Report abuse

The President doesn't set Tax Policy, THE IRS does.
Taxes become a burden when not administered fairly, which is what politics is all about.
The President outlined good (fair) government policies concerning taxes, in response to a loaded political question.

Posted by: dmscontractor | April 6, 2010 11:20 AM | Report abuse

RepubliCANTS like their answers short and sweet and devoid of meaningful thought.

Like when Dick Cheney answered Senator Patrick Leahy's questions about Halliburton's war-time profiteering by saying:

"Go f--- yourself."

Posted by: HughBriss | April 6, 2010 11:04 AM | Report abuse

LovingDad wrote: Regarding Social Security -- you're way off base. Social Security is structured and advertised as a "forced" savings plan. Every year, I receive a statement of what my payouts will be if I were to retire today. It makes it look like SS is being run as an annuity, which is more or less what I would do with the money if Uncle Sam was not taking it from me every month. If you tell me that I must "spread my Social Security savings" among the population, I'll be taking looking to take what little wealth I have and move to a country that is not moving towards communism, which appears to be what you really want. By the way, it doesn't work. Several countries have tried it already and they continue to fail.

I'm not referring to what SS has become, I'm referring to the original intent - it was NOT intended to be a retirement plan, merely a way to keep people from poverty as we saw in the Great Depression. I agree, it has become the only retirement plan for the bulk of the population - way wrong on their part as they don't know how to save money and live well beyond their means - the "want it now and I deserve it" generation.

The other solution - private savings through investment - well, we all know how well that turned out. That's why SS came after the Great Depression because everyone lost their savings. I'm glad I pulled out ALL my savings from Merrill Lynch in March 2007 and put it all into my home - I don't trust the free market to my savings $$ - they are not insured like the 1% savings you get at your bank. Without the forced savings of SS, 95% people would retire without saving a dime.

In 1984, the Government workers got taken out of the Federal Retirement plan and put on SS and Thrift Savings Plan, like a 401K where you could invest in 3 different options up to 5% of your pay and Uncle Sam would match up to 5%. Guess what - the workers didn't want to take money they had in their fists and put it into the TSP, they'd rather go out and buy the latest toys. We as a nation are the worst savers in the world and without forced savings, would be in worse shape than now.

Posted by: fiberartist | April 6, 2010 11:03 AM | Report abuse

vintel...............you must be new in town

"The lady thinks she is "over taxed"...she should move to Europe and have 40-50% of her pay taken as taxes. "

I live in the United States of Obama and pay more than 50% in taxes now. The Europeans pay 70-80%, but the Europeans are lucky, they have the government to make their health care decisions for them.

Posted by: KANSASTOWN | April 6, 2010 11:01 AM | Report abuse

vintel...............you must be new in town

"The lady thinks she is "over taxed"...she should move to Europe and have 40-50% of her pay taken as taxes. "

I live in the United States of Obama and pay more than 50% in taxes now. The Europeans pay 70-80%, but the Europeans are lucky, they have the government to make their health care decisions for them.

Posted by: KANSASTOWN | April 6, 2010 11:00 AM | Report abuse

I agree that Obama can often give boring and wandering responses to complex questions. But the American public really isn't interested in his answers, anyway. The lady who said she was overtaxed made her point when she made her statement, she wasn't asking a questions, she wanted to start an argument. She had no interest in an actual factual response from the President, her mind is already made up.

The vast majority of Americans want health care to be available to them and their families when they need it. And they want someone else (their employers or the govt.) to pay for it. They don't want to pay for care with tax dollars, and they certainly don't want to and can't afford to pay their medical bills out of pocket. Employers are being priced out of the insurance market. So if Americans don't want care paid for by taxes, and can't pay for it themselves, and their employers can't give the job AND pay for their health insurance, I wonder WHO Americans think should provide and pay for this essential service?

Posted by: smeesq | April 6, 2010 10:56 AM | Report abuse

Yeah...you are so overtaxed!!! Whah whah whah....pathetic babies. Go to Europe and find out what real taxation is. Truth is, taxes increased more under Bush than they ever will under President Obama. I agree...those quoting Drudge are a bunch of sad sack losers. Then again...In my entire life I have never met nor have I seen a republican/conservative think for themself. It doesn't surprise me that Beck, Hannity, and other know it all morons don't even have a higher education. Truth is that Liberals/Democrats are not only much more highly educated than conservatives/republicans, they also have much higher IQ's. (innate intelligence)Check out the facts. This is not hype I am giving you but science. Republicans appear stupid to everyone else because they are indeed intellectually inferior. Yet, they beleive they have all the solutions and only they are right! It's ridiculous. They are not even intelligent enough to realize that they are engaged in projection and that their entire lives have been lived in falsehood and delusion.

Posted by: vintel7 | April 6, 2010 10:55 AM | Report abuse

To solsticebelle and the likes...
You don't really know what you call "the medicien in the civilized world" is, right? You are just brainwashed Obamabots which sheepishly repeat his stpid campaign slogans, right?
Well, let me explain to you and to the resy what exactly you do admire... coz I live exactly in such state.
1. I pay 6% additional taxes for my medical treatment
2. I need to waste 2 days if I need a simple blood test. I lose much more as wages, cab fares or gazoline and parking fees for those 2 days then the blood tests costs
3. To get my deductable for the medications I need to waste 1 day every month. If the medications are very expensive this is usually worth doing but for eveything more common this is pure waste of time and money.
4. If I need some more complicated test I need either to wait 2-3 months for the test OR to pay from my own pocket. The only way the medicine you are calling "civilized" to do it urgently is only if I am dieng and to be done through ER.

Posted by: handel1 | April 6, 2010 10:49 AM | Report abuse

Are we so dumbed down as a country that a 17-minute point-by-point response to a complex question is too difficult for you? Maybe if the media treated us like intelligent, rational adults we would start acting like them.

Posted by: barefootgardengirl | April 6, 2010 10:44 AM | Report abuse

Are we so dumbed down as a country that a 17-minute point-by-point response to a complex question is too difficult for you? Maybe if the media treated us like intelligent, rational adults we would start acting like them.

Posted by: barefootgardengirl | April 6, 2010 10:43 AM | Report abuse

Stupid people expect simple answers to complex issues and questions. When the answer isn't pat and simple...people blame the messenger for their own lack of intellect and understanding. The lady thinks she is "over taxed"...she should move to Europe and have 40-50% of her pay taken as taxes.

Everybody posting here is a critic but there is no one here offering solutions. It's so typically and pathetically American. The Green Day song "American Idiot" sums it up best. Most people who have time to post here during the day are unemployed, collect welfare, or otherwise have too much time on their hands.Everyone is full of negativity and blaming the President and the government. STOP. Look in the mirror. That is the person you need to criticize. You are the person co-creating this reality. Don't ask what your country can do for you....ask what you can do to help your country. Stop whining like the Tea Party babies and take action to help the country. Otherwise don't post here anymore. Hypocrites.

Posted by: vintel7 | April 6, 2010 10:41 AM | Report abuse

Stupid people expect simple answers to complex issues and questions. When the answer isn't pat and simple...people blame the messenger for their own lack of intellect and understanding. The lady thinks she is "over taxed"...she should move to Europe and have 40-50% of her pay taken as taxes.

Everybody posting here is a critic but there is no one here offering solutions. It's so typically and pathetically American. The Green Day song "American Idiot" sums it up best. Most people who have time to post here during the day are unemployed, collect welfare, or otherwise have too much time on their hands.Everyone is full of negativity and blaming the President and the government. STOP. Look in the mirror. That is the person you need to criticize. You are the person co-creating this reality. Don't ask what your country can do for you....ask what you can do to help your country. Stop whining like the Tea Party babies and take action to help the country. Otherwise don't post here anymore. Hypocrites.

Posted by: vintel7 | April 6, 2010 10:41 AM | Report abuse

Stupid people expect simple answers to complex issues and questions. When the answer isn't pat and simple...people blame the messenger for their own lack of intellect and understanding. The lady thinks she is "over taxed"...she should move to Europe and have 40-50% of her pay taken as taxes.

Everybody posting here is a critic but there is no one here offering solutions. It's so typically and pathetically American. The Green Day song "American Idiot" sums it up best. Most people who have time to post here during the day are unemployed, collect welfare, or otherwise have too much time on their hands.Everyone is full of negativity and blaming the President and the government. STOP. Look in the mirror. That is the person you need to criticize. You are the person co-creating this reality. Don't ask what your country can do for you....ask what you can do to help your country. Stop whining like the Tea Party babies and take action to help the country. Otherwise don't post here anymore. Hypocrites.

Posted by: vintel7 | April 6, 2010 10:39 AM | Report abuse

The original blogger must be out of touch with the working world to write the FICA is a beltway term. Anyone who has gotten a paycheck or written one, as I do, understands FICA. I liked her commenting on F-Map however.

Posted by: marcasch | April 6, 2010 10:35 AM | Report abuse

fiberartist -- I agree with your comments on Medicare. The wealthy who have sufficient income to purchase private insurance should be using Medicare only as a secondary payer. But this needs to be specified in advance so that you can set expectations for workers and allow them to factor that into their retirement planning.

Regarding Social Security -- you're way off base. Social Security is structured and advertised as a "forced" savings plan. Every year, I receive a statement of what my payouts will be if I were to retire today. It makes it look like SS is being run as an annuity, which is more or less what I would do with the money if Uncle Sam was not taking it from me every month. If you tell me that I must "spread my Social Security savings" among the population, I'll be taking looking to take what little wealth I have and move to a country that is not moving towards communism, which appears to be what you really want. By the way, it doesn't work. Several countries have tried it already and they continue to fail.

I think the programs that you are really talking about are Welfare and Unemployment. Both of these are already being provided but are fraught with such fraud and conflicts of interest that they are mostly failures. For example, there are many for whom it is better to remain on Unemployment or Welfare and avoid seeking a job because they actually make out better without the job. This should never, ever be the case. Welfare should be for those who are not able to work and Unemployment should be for those who cannot find work. And the circumstances with Unemployment should be severe enough that those on it are in a *big* hurry to get off of it.

Posted by: LovingDad95 | April 6, 2010 10:35 AM | Report abuse

A 17 minute "answer" to a simple question (that should have been anticipated}is just a lot of words to avoid an answer.
I have asked many people if they should pay for my families healthcare or if I should have to pay for theirs. Amazingly, in contrast with the healthcare bill, everybody, minus a few exceptions, answers that it is NOT their responsibility to pay for my healthcare and that I do not have to pay for theirs. The few exceptions are people who believe that "when the government pays" it is free. When asked if the government should have the right to take their money (when the government runs out of money) to pay my medical bills the answer is a solid "NO". Obvioulsy the people do not want socialized healthcare.
When asked "Do you like it when the government gives you free money?" the answer is always "yes". Obama has used the simple fact that people like to get things for free as the foundation of his entitlement programs. Obama has made "entitlement" itself a new entitlement.

Posted by: duif100 | April 6, 2010 10:31 AM | Report abuse

I can guarantee that this woman who asked the question can afford to pay the taxes she is complaining about. This country has a pretty fair tax system, insuring that only those that can afford to pay taxes, pay taxes. Now the real reason this woman is mad is that she already has awesome health care, so she wants to make sure no one else gets in on the deal. Typical selfish Republican who wants everything for themselves, and worries that a "poor person" or "black" might infringe on their cushy lifestyle.

Posted by: McSameChalin | April 6, 2010 10:30 AM | Report abuse

A 17 minute "answer" to a simple question (that should have been anticipated}is just a lot of words to avoid an answer.
I have asked many people if they should pay for my families healthcare or if I should have to pay for theirs. Amazingly, in contrast with the healthcare bill, everybody, minus a few exceptions, answers that it is NOT their responsibility to pay for my healthcare and that I do not have to pay for theirs. The few exceptions are people who believe that "when the government pays" it is free. When asked if the government should have the right to take their money (when the government runs out of money) to pay my medical bills the answer is a solid "NO". Obvioulsy the people do not want socialized healthcare.
When asked "Do you like it when the government gives you free money?" the answer is always "yes". Obama has used the simple fact that people like to get things for free as the foundation of his entitlement programs. Obama has made "entitlement" itself a new entitlement.

Posted by: duif100 | April 6, 2010 10:29 AM | Report abuse

For all of those who complain about paying "more taxes" - please remember the parable of the Good Samaritan --

If we all paid our fair share -- without all those loop holes that the rich and corporations can always find -- we would be helping one another to live better.

Unfortunately, too many people are believing the heifer dust that Fox News and the extremists like Beck, Limbaugh, and Palin put out -- so they believe incorrectly that somehow the government is the bad guy trying to take all their money away and trying to control their lives.

Like I said -- Heifer dust -- (that's an old cowboy expression for that which is excreted by a cow).

So, instead of griping -- how about helping your fellow human being?

Or is His teaching only for words to be heard on Sunday and ignored every other day.

Posted by: abbydelabbey | April 6, 2010 10:29 AM | Report abuse

No program is perfect...not soc security, not state Departments of motor vehicles, not anything. If given the choice between a well intending goverment that may have a history of inefficiency and a bunch of billionaries who are running a FOR PROFIT business...I think I'll pass on the billionaires..though I don't like the idea of being forced to buy anything...but there are many more examples of that in this country and state to state to gripe about.
-Imari Manu Adams

Posted by: ImariManuAdams | April 6, 2010 10:28 AM | Report abuse

SS and Medicare were not ever intended to be a retirement system or health insurance for everyone - the intent was to keep people (yes, grandma) off the streets and help "poor" seniors with their medical care. I've been saying for years they should be means-based. My brother - in - law is a millionaire and only pays $95/month for Medicare while complaining that Gov't should not be subsidizing everyone else's health care. They also don't "need" the $1500 month SS - it just makes it easier to own 3 homes and take nice vacations.

The folks who really need health care go without so that wealthy people get the good deal. And don't give me that crap about "well I paid into it so I should get it back". Fine, when you retire, we'll pay back the money you put in - about 18 months worth of SS checks on average and then you can be "independent" again. Who ever said that we all get back something we put into? We all pay road taxes but we don't all drive a car or truck, we all pay for public schools but we don't all have kids, we all pay for libraries but how many of us use them? We live in a society, that means that we share the burdens of our culture. We pay for museums and national parks that many of us will never get the chance to visit but does that mean you get to choose not to pay for them? No. I don't get to choose not to pay for the huge military contracts for the war machine, it just is part of life in the US.

Posted by: fiberartist | April 6, 2010 10:10 AM | Report abuse

"And by the way...I love the United States. I'm a Liberal tree-hugging gun owner who supports the police and my miltary, believes Global Warming is real and think religous and political zelots, be they Muslim, Christian or Jew, Right or Left, are the real problem for civilization to overcome. Which means most of the people posting here."

You are posting here. And just because you are willing to give up the rights considered inalienable according to the laws of our land does not mean the rest of us are.

As for your earlier rant about 100 years ago here is another view. The US has become the greatest country on earth withiout the benefit of government mandated health care. How could that have happened? It is okay to disagree with you right comrade, this is still America?
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Oh - comrade - aren't you too cute....

Sheesh....

Your logic is pathetic...

What you are inferring is that this nation is as great as it could be - no, it could be a far greater nation.

But you can be myopic and a denier of the facts. You can pretend that of those who have an employer based system - that the thousands that get paid by employer and employee combined IS NOT A TAX on their take-home pay.

You can believe that left alone - you could trust insurance companies and employers to do the right thing... you could believe that (remember child labor and company town horror stories before the labor revolts? you know they left companies to regulate themselves).

You can believe in your fairy tales - but those amongst us who can see further down the tracks than you - prefer not to get sliced and diced by the train that would surely mow your type down.

Posted by: TPartier | April 6, 2010 9:49 AM | Report abuse

I found it amusing that, to the author, it's "Washington lingo" to call the Social Security and Medicare payroll taxes "FICA."

*Everyone* I know calls these taxes FICA; most have no idea that they're for Social Security and Medicare, but it says "FICA" on their pay stubs, so that's why they call it.

Enough with the whole populist hick perception of Americans, Ms. Kornblut. We may be ignorant of history, economics, and world events, but being able to read one's own paystub is still pretty common.

Posted by: jamessamans | April 6, 2010 9:44 AM | Report abuse

Where were all you anti-gov't folks when "the decider" ordered illegal wire-taps, broke international laws with torture, shoved the Patriot Act down our throats (which is the worst form of gov't intrusion) that allows them to read my emails etc.? And, the ultimate gov't invasion is that they feel they have control over MY uterus! Excuse Me?

Maybe you would rather have the kind of laisez-faire (do you read french?) system where companies can poison baby formula and dog food - oh yes, the 'free market' - it is exactly what goes on in China. I for one, like having the gov't make sure I have clean air and water (I drink tap water, not bottled), meat without E-coli, a bank that can't charge me 200% interest, safe bridges and airplanes, and that my boss has to give me time to pee and have lunch that they didn't have to do in the "good old days" - they could make you work 60 hours a week. All you union haters - the union is the only reason we have a 40 hour week and a minimum wage and somewhat safer working conditions.

Posted by: fiberartist | April 6, 2010 9:41 AM | Report abuse

"And by the way...I love the United States. I'm a Liberal tree-hugging gun owner who supports the police and my miltary, believes Global Warming is real and think religous and political zelots, be they Muslim, Christian or Jew, Right or Left, are the real problem for civilization to overcome. Which means most of the people posting here."

You are posting here. And just because you are willing to give up the rights considered inalienable according to the laws of our land does not mean the rest of us are.

As for your earlier rant about 100 years ago here is another view. The US has become the greatest country on earth withiout the benefit of government mandated health care. How could that have happened? It is okay to disagree with you right comrade, this is still America?

Posted by: pcoppney | April 6, 2010 9:38 AM | Report abuse

voysovrezun:

Oh, and yes, your taxes will go up....although in this case instead of being called 'taxes' they will be seen in fees, fines, and higher pass-through prices. Sure, Obama can claim he didn't raise your taxes DIRECTLY (if you make under $200k). But when:
- your state has to raise taxes to pay for the unfunded mandates
- when you have to pay more for medical equipment (because of the taxes on their makers)
- and when the 'employee contribution' portion of your company's health insurance premium spikes higher because of the taxes levied on your 'rich' employer
...the level of indirect taxes you shoulder will be going up substantially.

I just wish Democrats would be honest. What's wrong with saying that they think it's wrong that people aren't guaranteed insurance coverage, so they are going to guarantee their coverage. But it comes at a price, and will be expensive. Why all the lying about how it will lower costs and reduce deficits (which it won't, and I'll be glad to explain why to any 'lemmings' who are drinking the Pelosi/Obama kool-aid about this bill reducing deficits)?

Posted by: dbw1 | April 6, 2010 9:13 AM | Report abuse

voysovrezun:
"Sick and tired of the rhetoric spewed by the author of this article and it's comments. Is there a link to the transcript of the speech so anyone can draw their own conclusions as to the meaning or are we to be lemmings to the overall impression of the author?"

I think you missed the point of the article. The author wasn't debating the facts or merits of what Obama said. The point was that a lady asked a simple question, and the Salesman-in-Chief of the health care plan spent over 15 minutes in a rambling monologue attempting to answer it...and never did.

The point is that many Americans are still confused as to what is/isn't included in the bill, and how it will directly impact them. Obama has a big opportunity to 'sell' the public on the merits of his program, and seems to be failing miserably. And if Obama himself can't effectively explain the bill and it's merits, how will the majority of Americans ever get on board with it?

In his defense, I just assume Obama struggles with his explanations because it's difficult to find enough good parts within the 2,000 pages to keep people from focusing on the rest of the sludge and bribes that makes up the balance of the albatross that this bill became.

Posted by: dbw1 | April 6, 2010 9:10 AM | Report abuse

Thanks for the research ronoz. Good job.

What should we cut? It's a fiscal imperative that we accept the fact that SS and Medicare need to be means-tested. The whole idea of SS as a "retirement" program was BS. We should call it what it is A WELFARE program and means test the recipients.

o $663.7 billion (+12.7%) – Department of Defense
-cut by at least 60% by getting out of Iraq, Afghanistan, Japan, Germany, etc.

o $290 billion (+12.0%) – Medicaid
-cut by 100%

o 78.7 billion (−1.7%) – Department of Health and Human Services
-cut by 100%

o $47.5 billion (+18.5%) – Department of Housing
-cut by 100%

o $46.7 billion (+12.8%) – Department of Education
-cut by 100%

o $26.0 billion (+8.8%) – Department of Agriculture
-cut by 100%

Posted by: miltonc4l | April 6, 2010 8:57 AM | Report abuse

Everyone's taxes will go up. It's in the law already. It was signed, it is done!

There are 8 new taxes, and the easiest one to explain is that your "medicare" deduction on your paycheck will increase from 1.45% to 1.9%. Your employer will also be paying .45% more as well. Even if you make minumum wage, YOUR TAXES GO UP by at least this much, even if you are not affected by the other taxes.

Chairman Obama does not have the huevos to just come right out and say "No, I don't think you are taxed enough, so I am going to tax you more." He signed the law, so he obviously thinks that we ALL should pay more.

"Meet the new boss, same as the old boss."

Posted by: seeker638 | April 6, 2010 8:54 AM | Report abuse

' Halfway through, an audience member on the riser yawned. '


Anymore all it takes is about 60 seconds of Obama opening his mouth to get this responce from me.


Is it 2012 yet to where President Carter (oops Obama) can go and move-on to something he might be competent at?

Posted by: bcarte1 | April 6, 2010 8:38 AM | Report abuse

' Halfway through, an audience member on the riser yawned. '


Anymore all it takes is about 60 seconds of Obama opening his mouth to get this responce from me.


Is it 2012 yet to where President Carter (oops Obama) can go and move-on to something he might be competent at?

Posted by: bcarte1 | April 6, 2010 8:37 AM | Report abuse

' Halfway through, an audience member on the riser yawned. '


Anymore all it takes is about 60 seconds of Obama opening his mouth to get this responce from me.


Is it 2012 yet to where President Carter (oops Obama) can go and move-on to something he might be competent at?

Posted by: bcarte1 | April 6, 2010 8:35 AM | Report abuse

Single payer national health insurance is in keeping with Our Creed's "E Pluribus Unum." Subjugation by Big Insurance oligarchs is not...particularly when they are part of the false elite which promoted and sustained the illegal appointment, by the Roman Catholics of the SCOTUS' 'Bush v. Gore,' of the son of one of JFK's assassins, the grandson of HItler's Knight of Malta financier, Prescott Bush...a draft-dodging closet-queen, who then went on to commit 9/11 (Viz. "The New Pearl Harbor," Griffin, Ph. D.)...yet unadjudicated.

Only We, the People, can make President Obama more than an inspirational "bean counter."

Bush and Cheney must hang for real American healthcare: the establishment of Justice and Righteousness in Our Land...all else is dross.

Posted by: iamerican | April 6, 2010 7:55 AM | Report abuse

Single payer national health insurance is in keeping with Our Creed's "E Pluribus Unum." Subjugation by Big Insurance oligarchs is not...particularly when they are part of the false elite which promoted and sustained the illegal appointment, by the Roman Catholics of the SCOTUS' 'Bush v. Gore,' of the son of one of JFK's assassins, the grandson of HItler's Knight of Malta financier, Prescott Bush...a draft-dodging closet-queen, who then went on to commit 9/11 (Viz. "The New Pearl Harbor," Griffin, Ph. D.)...yet unadjudicated.

Only We, the People, can make President Obama more than an inspirational "bean counter."

Bush and Cheney must hang for real American healthcare: the establishment of Justice and Righteousness in Our Land...all else is dross.

Posted by: iamerican | April 6, 2010 7:46 AM | Report abuse

Single payer national health insurance is in keeping with Our Creed's "E Pluribus Unum." Subjugation by Big Insurance oligarchs is not...particularly when they are part of the false elite which promoted and sustained the illegal appointment, by the Roman Catholics of the SCOTUS' 'Bush v. Gore,' of the son of one of JFK's assassins, the grandson of HItler's Knight of Malta financier, Prescott Bush...a draft-dodging closet-queen, who then went on to commit 9/11 (Viz. "The New Pearl Harbor," Griffin, Ph. D.)...yet unadjudicated.

Only We, the People, can make President Obama more than an inspirational "bean counter."

Bush and Cheney must hang for real American healthcare: the establishment of Justice and Righteousness in Our Land...all else is dross.

Posted by: iamerican | April 6, 2010 7:42 AM | Report abuse

Sick and tired of the rhetoric spewed by the author of this article and it's comments. Is there a link to the transcript of the speech so anyone can draw their own conclusions as to the meaning or are we to be lemmings to the overall impression of the author? The person who stood up and made the blanket statement that they are 'taxed enough as it is' is probably not going to pay any more taxes than they currently are due to their income level. I say probably because of where it was held and the audience. She just heard something on Faux news that big bad government is coming to get her and she blindly believed it. More attention was given to the question than the answer. People complain about being over taxed. In the next breath they complain that their roads are in need of repair. They complain about the high cost of health care and unethical behavior of insurance companies, but are scared to death that government is going to take over their lives. What do you think Medicare is? People take into account the start of their medicare benefits when planning retirement because of the high costs of maintaining health care without it. Would the retiring baby boomers that are complaining about health care reform like to say 'no thanks' to this benefit because it will be a representation of how big government is ruling their lives? We are to be the most powerful country in the world, but we can't provide basic health care? We are behind several other countries that have health care for their citizens and when they are asked for their opinion on the debate they are astonished that there is such disagreement. People need to inform themselves on the topics through unbiased means. Anyone who listens to the Rush Limbaughs and Glenn Becks day in and day out believe that the country's problems began with the Obama administration and that the previous administration was somehow better than we could know and that we'll someday realize just how good we had it. Those that blindly follow the rhetoric of the tea parties need to take an objective look at the spectacle. Read the history of the Boston tea party. Compare it to today. Middle class people dressing up like colonists and yelling high school inspired chants is what it takes to get people behind you? Many of the same people belonging to said groups are Republicans to their dying day. Republicans do not serve the middle class. The majority of Republicans don't vote their socioeconomic class. They would realize it if they only inspected the legislation that is passed by Republicans and how it rarely stands to benefit anyone but the most wealthy. Keep on feeling opressed while you vote at your local, state, and federal levels in aspiration of the socioeconomic class that you so hope to belong to while ensuring most never will. Think for yourself. Read facts, not opinions. Ask yourself what is better for the country, what is better for your neighbor, and what is better for you.

Posted by: voysovrezun | April 6, 2010 7:39 AM | Report abuse

Sick and tired of the rhetoric spewed by the author of this article and it's comments. Is there a link to the transcript of the speech so anyone can draw their own conclusions as to the meaning or are we to be lemmings to the overall impression of the author? The person who stood up and made the blanket statement that they are 'taxed enough as it is' is probably not going to pay any more taxes than they currently are due to their income level. I say probably because of where it was held and the audience. She just heard something on Faux news that big bad government is coming to get her and she blindly believed it. More attention was given to the question than the answer. People complain about being over taxed. In the next breath they complain that their roads are in need of repair. They complain about the high cost of health care and unethical behavior of insurance companies, but are scared to death that government is going to take over their lives. What do you think Medicare is? People take into account the start of their medicare benefits when planning retirement because of the high costs of maintaining health care without it. Would the retiring baby boomers that are complaining about health care reform like to say 'no thanks' to this benefit because it will be a representation of how big government is ruling their lives? We are to be the most powerful country in the world, but we can't provide basic health care? We are behind several other countries that have health care for their citizens and when they are asked for their opinion on the debate they are astonished that there is such disagreement. People need to inform themselves on the topics through unbiased means. Anyone who listens to the Rush Limbaughs and Glenn Becks day in and day out believe that the country's problems began with the Obama administration and that the previous administration was somehow better than we could know and that we'll someday realize just how good we had it. Those that blindly follow the rhetoric of the tea parties need to take an objective look at the spectacle. Read the history of the Boston tea party. Compare it to today. Middle class people dressing up like colonists and yelling high school inspired chants is what it takes to get people behind you? Many of the same people belonging to said groups are Republicans to their dying day. Republicans do not serve the middle class. The majority of Republicans don't vote their socioeconomic class. They would realize it if they only inspected the legislation that is passed by Republicans and how it rarely stands to benefit anyone but the most wealthy. Keep on feeling opressed while you vote at your local, state, and federal levels in aspiration of the socioeconomic class that you so hope to belong to while ensuring most never will. Think for yourself. Read facts, not opinions. Ask yourself what is better for the country, what is better for your neighbor, and what is better for you.

Posted by: voysovrezun | April 6, 2010 7:37 AM | Report abuse

A fool is known by the multitude of his words.

Posted by: sdlawrence | April 6, 2010 6:56 AM | Report abuse

The only issue here is once again Congress has passed a law that opens the door to even more limiting of my rights, removal of my rights, and slavery to a FERAL government.

Obama, once again lied. It is NOT 50 million people uninsured. There have been extensive studies to show this and yet, the liberal BS machine keeps pumping out even more BS.

What is even worse is too many people actually think the "evil rich" or big business are going to "pay" for this. You that believe this are effing retarded. History shows us different time and time again.

This country was founded for these same reasons. Over taxation. You do not want fair. What you want is for someone to pay your way through life. Health insurance is NOT a right. It is a product/service sold by private businesses and by the gods you do not have the right to force me to pay higher premiums because you make/made bad choices in your life. yeah, pumping out five kids, smoking, drinking, failure to educate yourself beyond high school and other significant and insignificant failures that constitute your inability to pay for health care. Your pre-existing condition is NOT MY RESPONSIBILITY.

This bill is an utter failure and opens the door to government total control.

Don't think the absurd can happen? Then again, you are an idiot. Wait until they tell you this food or that food is unhealthy and you cannot eat it. Wait until they tell you this activity or that activity is dangerous and unhealthy and if you engage in it you will be fined and not covered. Wait until they tell you guns are a health hazard and you are not allowed to have guns. Etc, etc, so on and so forth. If you do not think the right to bear arms is important wait until it has been completely removed because next in line is your freedom of speech.

You idiots that support this bill need to pay for it and leave the rest of us Americans out of your socialistic, communistic, Marxist stupidity.

Posted by: RonEllen | April 6, 2010 6:07 AM | Report abuse

The only thing that makes sense is single-payer. It is the only long-term answer to the USA's debt problem. It is the only thing that will give the USA the strength to deal with is debt.

But many liberals miss the big picture. They claim Obama sold out to the insurance companies. They are unhappy. What they don't realise is that a public option was a politically impossibility and that Obama did the right thing.

Because they trust government, liberals don't see what is going to happen down the road. Healthcare reform, in its present form, is going to fail. Because of mass uncompliance, resistance, lawsits, and constitutional challenges, it is just never going to pay for itself. Insurance rates will rise, access will decline.

This means that some years down the road there will be a renewed call for a public option, which will be the only viable solution. The public option will quickly become a de-facto single payer system.

Conservatives figured this out long ago. That is why the calls for 'repeal' will not fade. They will grow louder. But they will fail.

Liberals should be happy about this.

Posted by: rschmieder | April 6, 2010 4:37 AM | Report abuse

The only thing that makes sense is single-payer. It is the only long-term answer to the USA's debt problem. It is the only thing that will give the USA the strength to deal with is debt.

But many liberals miss the big picture. They claim Obama sold out to the insurance companies. They are unhappy. What they don't realise is that a public option was a politically impossibility and that Obama did the right thing.

Because they trust government, liberals don't see what is going to happen down the road. Healthcare reform, in its present form, is going to fail. Because of mass uncompliance, resistance, lawsits, and constitutional challenges, it is just never going to pay for itself. Insurance rates will rise, access will decline.

This means that some years down the road there will be a renewed call for a public option, which will be the only viable solution. The public option will quickly become a de-facto single payer system.

Conservatives figured this out long ago. That is why the calls for 'repeal' will not fade. They will grow louder. But they will fail.

Liberals should be happy about this.

Posted by: rschmieder | April 6, 2010 4:36 AM | Report abuse

Sell us something we never had a choice about buying? That is rich. Around dinner over the holiday I sat with four doctors and their wives. The Health Care "reform bill" never would have passed if Congress had been allowed to go home for Easter before voting--and hear these conversations.

Add $30M to patient loads without adding doctors and infrastucture? Madness.

Cut doctor's reimbursements (no Doc Fix so far...) and doctors will quit.

Finally, no tort reform? You gotta be kidding us! Preventive medicine becomes wasteful over-cautious medicine to PREVENT BEING SUED.

Glad I missed the 17-minute meander. I would have wandered off.

Time to stop being so polite America. Wake up and smell the (dangerous) stink of corruption and takeover...

Posted by: LaurainLA | April 6, 2010 4:35 AM | Report abuse

Obama did not tell the truth. Instead he tried to baffle us with 2500 words. The truth is we should have a single payer health insurance like the rest of the civilized world. Obama is betraying the people who voted for him and serving the rich insurance companies who paid.

Posted by: dave- | April 6, 2010 4:17 AM | Report abuse


Dave27,
1oo years ago, the were no commercial trucks, hardly any cars and no recreational vehicles, barely any paved roads, so no real fuel, no Medicare or Social Security for our parents, only a couple of telephones to tax. In 1913, Wyoming ratified the 16th Amendment, providing the three-quarter majority of states necessary to amend the Constitution (proving that even flinty eyed cowpokes saw the need for it), so 100 years ago there was no IRS top tax anyone. If you lost your job 100 years ago there was no unemployment to go on. Most people still used outhouses. Food regularly caused salmonella, trichinosis and various other food bourn illnesses. Blacks and women couldn’t vote. Most people lived without electricity, indoor plumbing or had many luxuries to tax.

But your still right…if we could only go


back 100 years ago, we wouldn’t have to worry about the collapse of our nation…we’d just be the largest 3rd world country on the planet, that is, if more advanced nations like Fiji hadn’t taken us over by now. You want power and status, you want toys you don’t need, you want some help if you lose your job or get old, you want paved roads and an army to defend you, cough up or shut up.

Posted by: chuckterzella1 | April 6, 2010 3:06 AM | Report abuse

Didn't see the answer. But, given the Presidents free wheeling, unscripted responses at a meeting with the Republican leadership, it is obvious he can answer without a script. If you think any idiot can graduate from Harvard law, please apply. It isn't that the only brilliant people graduate from college, its that you have to show some intelligence. While if you haven't then we don't know. In this case, the hurdle is very high, and Obama went over with ease. So yeah, he's smart. Or didn't you just notice the he finally passed a health care bill, and it will not be overturned.

Posted by: sarlat | April 5, 2010 11:55 PM | Report abuse

WE ARE overtaxed. I suggest out of ignorance,self included. I was challenged by a friend at a town hall type health care meeting held last year by our Congressman to ask the representative of the social security administration a simple question: Am I absolutely required by law to have a social security number? The answer blew me away and will blow you away. We can take our freedom back, do not believe everything you are told and even what you "know". Do some research.

Posted by: bobinexile | April 5, 2010 11:35 PM | Report abuse

I don't know...when they went to pay for a war I didn't agree with (Iraq), I paid my taxes. I voted against the president who ordered that war in 2004 and lost. I didn't threaten, or even want to, overthrow the government (although I did my best to satirize it). I just paid my taxes and waited 4 more years until I got the one I wanted.

I watched the country's surplus become a huge deficit, not because of Obama, but Bush. I still paid my taxes.

I was appalled at torture and warrentless wire tapping. But I still paid my taxes.

Now, if my taxes go up a bit to help a poor sick person somewhere, even if they're a rabid Conservative who hates me just for being a Liberal, I won't mind too much. Better that than using them for a war I didn't believe in, but as I said, paid taxes to fund (or least pay the interest on the loan).

And I'm not too worried about this becoming a Socialist society either...if Cheney and Bush couldn't turn it into a Totalitarian one, I doubt Obama can turn it into a Socialist one.

Whether I agree with my government's use of my money or not, I'm still gonna pay my taxes. You see, I like society, I like roads and public schools, fire departments and trash pick-ups. And I like that old people get Medi-care and poor people get Medi-caid...it makes me proud that my country takes care of people who need help.And if there was a way for me to afford health care for myself and my wife, I'd like that too. Right now I can't, nor am I sure that with this new healthcare plan I'll be able to. I'm a cynic at heart and so think there can't be anything in it for me personally. But I'll pay the taxes for it if it'll help someone.

Six years ago, the last time my wife and I could afford to pay for it, Blue Cross cost the two of us $7,500.00 a year. We were in our forties then and pretty healthy. We were smokers, but statisically, smokers don't cost the health system much...we get cancer and die pretty quick. Now,my taxes would really, REALLY have to go up to reach that number.

So, I'll pay for this new healthcare plan, hope Obama's gotten it right and that there's even something in it for me. If not, well, I'll still pay my taxes.

And by the way...I love the United States. I'm a Liberal tree-hugging gun owner who supports the police and my miltary, believes Global Warming is real and think religous and political zelots, be they Muslim, Christian or Jew, Right or Left, are the real problem for civilization to overcome. Which means most of the people posting here.

Posted by: chuckterzella1 | April 5, 2010 11:05 PM | Report abuse

This article bites! Out of that whole article, It doesn't even say if Obama answered the tax question. Who taught you how to write a story?

Posted by: HemiHead66 | April 5, 2010 10:15 PM | Report abuse

An Easy solution to being overtaxed:
You tell me, the I.R.S., how much you wish to deduct from your future Social Security payments, and I'll give it to you now, all in a lump.
You will unfortunately be summarily rejected for any form of government assistance for the rest of your life, but you get the satisfaction of knowing that even though you'll die at 44 because you can't remotely afford a kidney transplant, you'll have a Hummer and a gold-plated limited edition spark plug from Dale Earnhardt, Jr's. fourth place car for your relatives to fight over.

Posted by: DAMNEDGENTLEMEN | April 5, 2010 9:57 PM | Report abuse

I know I am over taxed, as I paid over 100K in taxes last year.

Posted by: MarkRSM | April 5, 2010 9:25 PM

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Frankly, I do pretty well for myself, and I'm nowhere close to paying $100k/yr in taxes. I'd trade financial situations with you in a heartbeat. You want my lower tax rate? Let's swap.

Posted by: ponkey | April 5, 2010 9:57 PM | Report abuse

I hate to break it to the anti-tax crowd, but I just DID my taxes. Guess what? They went DOWN 1% from last year.
$47,427.86 in wages.
$5,306.81 in federal deductions (after my $10 refund!)
$3225.00 in state taxes (counting the extra $146 I have to pay them)
OK, so basic math time... 8531.81 in taxes divided by $47,427.86 in income = a tax rate of 17.99%.
Last year, using the same methodology, it was 19%.
Now the common argument is "Buh, buh! SSI! Medicare! Those are taxes!" They might be marked that way on your W2 but they aren't taxes the way income taxes are.
Even counting them my total tax burden is 25.64% of my income. Far, far less than the tea-baggers think it is.
Posted by: jordanlund | April 5, 2010 7:03 PM |


Ok, everybody assumes we are overtaxed. Are we? Does somebody have factual studies comparing our tax burden to that of other industrialized countries? Anybody have any figures on what who, in what income levels, pay what share of the taxes? Or is the claim that we are "overtaxed" just another piece of garbage rhetoric. Overtaxed, relative to what? Relative to the benefits we receive from a lot of economic safety nets, and a VERY expensive military machine? Does anybody here give any thought to facts? To analysis of facts? Or do you just want to yell at each other and whine? I seem to read almost nothing in these comments other than claims, opinions, bald assertion of things that simply are not facts, ad nauseam.
Posted by: mesite | April 5, 2010 6:41 PM |


Overtaxed? Before Reagan and co screwed us in the 80s, the super rich paid more than double their current tax rates.
Now they pocket that much more money and it has obviously led to them getting richer and the middle and lower classes getting poorer.
Posted by: tacosalad | April 5, 2010 6:30 PM |

In the Good Old Days - 1950's, under the Republican President Eisenhower, the wealthy paid as much as 70% income taxes and there were far fewer of them. Now, millionaires are numerous and they whine about 36% taxes, which is one reason they are growing in number while the working class/middle class is struggling. I find it funny that friends of mine who do make $250K/year think they are just middle class - how can that be when they are in the top 3%? They are wealthy and have now clue what it is like to try to live on 25k as a retired person. And yes, our taxes have gone down, some years to nothing. The cost of living in a civilized society is to pay taxes. I don't want to live in Somalia or Haiti.

As to those who say we shouldn't have to pay for other people's health care, I have no kids (intentionally to help the planet) but I have to pay property taxes of $2700/year to help pay for other people's children to attend public (socialist!) schools. I also can't stand religion - any religion - but I am forced to subsidize them because they go tax - free so someone has to make up the shortfall, while they have these palaces they call churches.

Posted by: fiberartist | April 5, 2010 9:52 PM | Report abuse

Good morning from China!
I have read President Obama reply to a questioned asked by a battery employee, Doris.
Some has hailed his answer as he the President can speak with great wisdom...I have not been a sentor, or public figure ever...but, if this is the best answer he can give...I am ashamed at President Obama...Please stop the waste...Acorn, giving illegals free health care, housing, food.
Be a leader President Obama...show us every day how you will protect our citzens from attack on our southern border, stop funding Acorn, stop paying illegals in our country! State of Washington does this each and every day! My friend wife needed extended care in the hospital after birth of second child. He had insurance. After one week in the hospital...insurance paying 80% his part was 80,000 usd.
I know a illegal that has four children in Washington state...all he needs is a health card from King County and every thing is free, also housing, food. How can we afford this when our citzens are suffering. President Obama...we beg you stop the waste, fraud by Acorn(I know you have supported them highly...seen the videos in China from America)do not let one tax payer dime go to this organization, stop all illegals from receiving our hard earned tax dollars. This is not fair...to us!!! Stop the illegal from entering our beloved country by continuing to build the fence, not a barrier. Our citzens are being murdered by illegals!!! I may not agree to all your policies but as a American I believe we all can support you in the effort to stop tax payer waste!!!

Posted by: askgene | April 5, 2010 9:43 PM | Report abuse

Dear btfbonzo,

If you can not read that is mostly a choice made by somebody, if you are poor, that is most likely a choice also.

If you are sick, this may be a choice or bad luck, but I am very sorry you are sick.

We should only help out the people that thru no fault of their own can not help themselves. If you do drugs, dropped out of school or are lazy, guess what TO BAD, DEAL WITH IT.

Children we should help, but once you are 18, you are on your own, get a job, pay your bills, and work hard, you will be fine. Waste all your money on stupid crap, do not cry to me when you are can not afford health insurance, it was your choice.

Posted by: MarkRSM | April 5, 2010 9:37 PM | Report abuse

I am happy the Washington Post wrote this article. I hope Obama reads it and learns that in order to talk to uneducated people, few words and a simple, dumbed-down message are enough.
For example a simple answer "a la George Bush" to the woman's question would be: "No, we are not overtaxing. The money you pay us goes back to you in the form of better roads, strong police force/firemen, education and health care."

Posted by: temp9753 | April 5, 2010 9:32 PM | Report abuse

Dear AvgAmerican,

Did Mr Bush do a good job, no he did not, but just because Mr Bush did a bad job, does not mean that you should support the bad job Mr Obama is doing. Mr Obama was wrong on the ecomony, he was wrong on the war in Iraq, he is wrong on the war in Afganistan, and he is wrong on bill labeled as Health Care.

The only think not in the Health Care bill is Health Care, it does not provide Health Care to a single person, it is a Health Insurance bill, not a Health Care bill.

Posted by: MarkRSM | April 5, 2010 9:31 PM | Report abuse

I don't care about the poor, sick, or illiterate as I long as I don't get taxed too much and have to give up my time share in a third world country.

Posted by: btfbonzo | April 5, 2010 9:31 PM | Report abuse

Dear jordanlund,

You pay twice as much in SSA, and Medicare tax as you think, so lets increase this to 33 percent. Also how much tax to you pay on goods you buy, I am assuming at 47K you do not save that much. Normally for most non-food goods taxes on good and services represent about 1/3 the costs.

So you made 47K plus an addtional 5K in wages taxes taken out for SSA/Med. Based on what state you live in, you most likely have an addtional 5K of hidden wage taxes. So your employer books show 57K in labor costs for you.

You get to keep 66 percent and out of this you get to buy good and services for about 44 percent.

So you are in at least a 56 tax bracket and out of the 57K in income, you get to buy goods and services for 25K.

Ask yourself if the government gave you 32K in good and services last year, if the answer is yes, then you got good value, if the answer is no then you are over taxed.

I know I am over taxed, as I paid over 100K in taxes last year.

Posted by: MarkRSM | April 5, 2010 9:25 PM | Report abuse

"Why is it Barry thinks we are so stupid we just are misinformed about everything that we are against? Talk for 17 minutes on just one question, are you kidding me?? Check this out Michelle admits Barack's home land is Kenya!! Check out the video!!! It sure is amazing how this man will spend billions on Lawyers to not disclose this!!!"


You may not be able to think about anything for that length of time but some people can and those are the one in charge of government at this time....17 minutes is not that long....Did you need an intermission to collect your thoughts?....

Posted by: terrywallace1 | April 5, 2010 9:18 PM | Report abuse

Dear Friends,

Mr Obama had a chance that few people get, he was elected with a mandate to change our government for the better. What he choose to do was run it from the left, and now he no longer has a mandate, he can not even hold together liberal Mass. In one year he has taken himself down more than Mr Bush did in 8 years, even at bringing us in two wars. We are not a socialistic country, we believe if you want to eat you should work. We all will help out the needy, but we do not want to help out the lazy or greedy, and Mr Obama has choosen to create policies that help out both the greedy and the lazy.

Posted by: MarkRSM | April 5, 2010 9:17 PM | Report abuse

I hate to break it to the anti-tax crowd, but I just DID my taxes. Guess what? They went DOWN 1% from last year.
$47,427.86 in wages.
$5,306.81 in federal deductions (after my $10 refund!)
$3225.00 in state taxes (counting the extra $146 I have to pay them)
OK, so basic math time... 8531.81 in taxes divided by $47,427.86 in income = a tax rate of 17.99%.
Last year, using the same methodology, it was 19%.
Now the common argument is "Buh, buh! SSI! Medicare! Those are taxes!" They might be marked that way on your W2 but they aren't taxes the way income taxes are.
Even counting them my total tax burden is 25.64% of my income. Far, far less than the tea-baggers think it is.
Posted by: jordanlund | April 5, 2010 7:03 PM |


Ok, everybody assumes we are overtaxed. Are we? Does somebody have factual studies comparing our tax burden to that of other industrialized countries? Anybody have any figures on what who, in what income levels, pay what share of the taxes? Or is the claim that we are "overtaxed" just another piece of garbage rhetoric. Overtaxed, relative to what? Relative to the benefits we receive from a lot of economic safety nets, and a VERY expensive military machine? Does anybody here give any thought to facts? To analysis of facts? Or do you just want to yell at each other and whine? I seem to read almost nothing in these comments other than claims, opinions, bald assertion of things that simply are not facts, ad nauseam.
Posted by: mesite | April 5, 2010 6:41 PM |


Overtaxed? Before Reagan and co screwed us in the 80s, the super rich paid more than double their current tax rates.
Now they pocket that much more money and it has obviously led to them getting richer and the middle and lower classes getting poorer.
Posted by: tacosalad | April 5, 2010 6:30 PM |

In the Good Old Days - 1950's, under the Republican President Eisenhower, the wealthy paid as much as 70% income taxes and there were far fewer of them. Now, millionaires are numerous and they whine about 36% taxes, which is one reason they are growing in number while the working class/middle class is struggling. I find it funny that friends of mine who do make $250K/year think they are just middle class - how can that be when they are in the top 3%? They are wealthy and have now clue what it is like to try to live on 25k as a retired person. And yes, our taxes have gone down, some years to nothing. The cost of living in a civilized society is to pay taxes. I don't want to live in Somalia or Haiti.

As to those who say we shouldn't have to pay for other people's health care, I have no kids (intentionally to help the planet) but I have to pay property taxes of $2700/year to help pay for other people's children to attend public (socialist!) schools. I also can't stand religion - any religion - but I am forced to subsidize them because they go tax - free so someone has to make up the shortfall, while they have these palaces they call churches.

Posted by: fiberartist | April 5, 2010 9:16 PM | Report abuse

Why is it Barry thinks we are so stupid we just are misinformed about everything that we are against? Talk for 17 minutes on just one question, are you kidding me?? Check this out Michelle admits Barack's home land is Kenya!! Check out the video!!! It sure is amazing how this man will spend billions on Lawyers to not disclose this!!!http://patriotupdate.com/stories/read/3261/Video-Michelle-Obama-Baracks-Home-Country-Is-Kenya

Posted by: releggneh1 | April 5, 2010 9:07 PM | Report abuse

More taxes period. He couldn't answer the question because he couldn't. Spinmaster at his best with his rambling, without a teleprompter.

Posted by: FOBAMA | April 5, 2010 9:06 PM | Report abuse

It was so nice to see a President who has the smarts, knowledge and ability to actually respond to diverse questions and to do so with more than a few sentences or the standard talking points.

I could not help but wonder where the person who asked the question was during the Bush years? Some 90-95% of the current deficit is created by: 1) Bush tax cuts for the wealthiest, 2) two wars on the credit card, 3)a drug bill not paid for, and 4) the economic collapse from deregulation and inept oversight of the banking, mortgage and insurance industries resulting in the largest taxpayer bailout in history.

To turn this ship around will take some time. To recover will take some effort and patience by all. The GOP will only keep saying NO and whining...after driving the nation into the ditch.

I'm glad that we have Obama at the helm and I'm glad to see the health care reform that too many have only talked about for decades. It's about time.

Posted by: AvgAmerican | April 5, 2010 8:59 PM | Report abuse

Wiki says -- Socialism refers to the various theories of economic organization which advocate either public or direct worker ownership and administration of the means of production and allocation of resources. Socialists generally share the view that capitalism unfairly concentrates power and wealth among a small segment of society that controls capital and derives its wealth through a system of exploitation. All religion, guns, Nascar, college football and Conservative talk radio will be banned soon, there is no hope Republicans, resistance is futile, just put the Caribou Barbie doll down and back away. Your 5 minutes of hope at recovery is now gone, over, done, the Dems win again.

Posted by: Hillary08 | April 5, 2010 8:59 PM | Report abuse

The President "used to be" good with words. He "used to promise hope" but now he simply talks too much, spends too much, gives away our future by putting us in debt, and is really serving only his faithful left. He is not the President he said he would be. He does not represent anyone except those who want "Free" everything and who want to take from those who actually went to school and worked hard without expecting the government to take care of them. I read recently that 49% of Americans pay nothing to the IRS. Sorry, that is not right. Expecting the government to take care of your every need is very much like being in prison or a modern day slave.

Posted by: policywiz | April 5, 2010 8:57 PM | Report abuse

So the journalist who wrote this piece got paid to tell me that the President gave a long answer to a question? And that people were yawning? Wow. That's Pulitzer material, for sure.

Posted by: jimbob10 | April 5, 2010 8:48 PM | Report abuse

Fascinating to read he hate-mongering uber-patriots speak with such derision about a lengthy answer to a complex issue.

Oliver Wendal Holmes, Jr. stated taxes were the price of civilization. Ben Franklin taxes were as certain as death.
George W. said let's cut revenues by 3 trillion blow an additional 3 trillion on stirring up radical muslims and blame tell people it's gummint's fault.

Could you imagine these A.D.D. Red State dopes during the Lincoln-Douglas debates, where the ground rules were: The format for each debate was: one candidate spoke for 60 minutes, then the other candidate spoke for 90 minutes, and then the first candidate was allowed a 30-minute "rejoinder." The candidates alternated speaking first. As the incumbent, Douglas spoke first in four of the debates?

Posted by: goyo1588 | April 5, 2010 8:31 PM | Report abuse

All right people, which program should we cut? The top five are approximately 2/3 of the US budget. We have some difficult decisions to make, the problem is this country does not have the fortitude to make them.
o $695 billion (+4.9%) – Social Security
o $663.7 billion (+12.7%) – Department of Defense
o $453 billion (+6.6%) – Medicare
o $290 billion (+12.0%) – Medicaid
o $164 billion (+18.0%) – Interest on National Debt
o 78.7 billion (−1.7%) – Department of Health and Human
o $72.5 billion (+2.8%) – Department of Transportation
o $52.5 billion (+10.3%) – Department of Veterans Affairs
o $51.7 billion (+40.9%) – Department of State
o $47.5 billion (+18.5%) – Department of Housing
o $46.7 billion (+12.8%) – Department of Education
o $42.7 billion (+1.2%) – Department of Homeland Security
o $26.3 billion (−0.4%) – Department of Energy
o $26.0 billion (+8.8%) – Department of Agriculture
o $23.9 billion (−6.3%) – Department of Justice
o $18.7 billion (+5.1%) – National Aeronautics and Space Admin
o $13.8 billion (+48.4%) – Department of Commerce
o $13.3 billion (+4.7%) – Department of Labor
o $13.3 billion (+4.7%) – Department of the Treasury
o $12.0 billion (+6.2%) – Department of the Interior
o $10.5 billion (+34.6%) – Environmental Protection Agency
o $9.7 billion (+10.2%) – Social Security Administration
P.S. Sara Palin could answer the question with about five words, that about what could fix\t on her hand.

Posted by: ronoz | April 5, 2010 8:15 PM | Report abuse

@ akcoyoty...The fact that you would compare your IQ to someone you don't even know is more proof of my point...Are you saying your IQ is higher than anyone's?...

Posted by: terrywallace1 | April 5, 2010 8:12 PM | Report abuse

We, for one, are happy that we finally have a President who can string more than a few words together at one sitting!

Not sure if Bush ever said 2500 words in one go, but then one can never be sure of how many words he actually knew.

Posted by: RainyDayIntern | April 5, 2010 8:09 PM | Report abuse

A recent poll shows us that Most people who dont like Obama have an IQ of less than 85...And most people who do like Obama Have above average IQs....This is very true from what I can tell...These comments are proof of this ... No facts just uneducated speculation...

Posted by: terrywallace1 | April 5, 2010 6:58 PM | Report abuse
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Liberals won't listen to facts so why bother? And I'll put my IQ and education up against yours any day.

The arrogance of the left will never cease to amaze me.

Posted by: AkCoyote | April 5, 2010 8:06 PM | Report abuse

Anyone notice that the Obama naysayers are so angry they can’t think straight. I am a capitalist because I think it is the best economic system we humans can come up with. I also was a Republican until the wing-nuts took over my party. I think that the GOP should change their moniker to AWOP, “Angry White Old People”. I am now a Independent and also willing to give Obama a chance. He started with one hell of a mess.

Posted by: ronoz | April 5, 2010 7:58 PM | Report abuse

The smarmy tone and empty rhetoric displayed in this opinion piece are getting really old and boring.

Perhaps we should call this and all future pointless right-wing noise "kornblut."

Posted by: tundralink | April 5, 2010 7:50 PM | Report abuse

Socialism: Any of various theories or systems of social organization in which the means of producing and distributing goods is owned collectively or by a centralized government that often plans and controls the economy. -- As per the American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language, Fourth Edition.

Now I'm sure you're screaming "yes! yes! Don't you see? The government is controlling health care and therefore becoming socalist!" But stop and think for a minute... the water you use to wash, cook, and drink is processed by a municipal public works department. The packages you send are transported by a postal service system that is government owned and operated. The roads you use to get to and from work, school, church, the park, and everywhere else you go are also built and maintained by the government and tax money. The Police and Fire Departments exist because of tax money and are supervised by, you guessed it, the government. So with all these systems already functioning in our society, how is it that we haven't yet become socialist?

The government isn't the one providing the health care, but only setting rules and regulations as to what insurance companies can and can't do in the process of providing health care to the American people. I personally know many people who will benefit from this bill and will finally be able to obtain the health insurance they desperately need so that they won't have the burden of thousands of dollars in medical bills.

Recently the government also passed legislation that now regulates how much interest credit card companies and banks can charge in interest, and how their billing practices must be done, and everyone thought it was so wonderful. This is more regulation aimed at helping people. Why is it THIS bill that has everyone screaming socialism and not any of the others?

The means of production are still all in private hands. Look in your local grocery store, all the produce there is produced by private companies. Your government only regulates them so they won’t poison you for bigger profits. The insurance companies are still in business they just got 30 million new customers.

Posted by: ronoz | April 5, 2010 7:41 PM | Report abuse

Some of the remarks directed against the president would carry more weight if I could get past the incivility which tells me that the writer is actuated more by hate than logic. More than this--the "jokes" are stale and old hat. I've heard these bumper sticker glittering generalities so often that II wince at their use. It's not that I disagree with your politics, but rather with your writing skills, and the nagging thought that deep down your probably not a very good person. In fairness, the Republicans have had presidents deserving of criticism, as for example the three presidents leading up to the Great Depression--Harding, Coolidge and Hoover. And then their was Mr. Bush, Junior, the first president to start a war on borrowed money( Mostly from the Chinese, Deutsches Bank and the Saudis), while at the same time lowering taxes, thus depleting the US Treasury. And wasn't that first 700 billion in "bailout" money appropriated during the Bush administration when Paulson was Secretary of the Treasury?
So you see, there is lot's of blame to go around. Of course, I don't recall anyone calling Mr. Bush the "antiiChrist, but then again, Mr. Bush was white, and had a middle name that no one really cared about.

Posted by: Maurice10 | April 5, 2010 7:32 PM | Report abuse

Where were you when, in 2001/2003 Bush rammed his $3 trillion tax cut through the congress? What happened to all that extra revenue that the tax cuts was to produce? If you are not an investment banker, how did the tax cut work out for you? We just went from a budget surplus in 1999 to more debt in one year, never mind the $2 trillion the Iraq war cost. Bush caused the great recession by ignoring regulation of the investment banks giving $3 trillion to the wealthy which just produced more greed.

Posted by: ronoz | April 5, 2010 7:31 PM | Report abuse

I'm sorry mysticnights7777, that sounds all fine and dandy, and all hopey changey. But what is sweedens population?? 9 million? I dont recall the exact number. I just think you cant apply that (socialism)here and have america still be the GREATEST NATION ON EARTH.

Posted by: HughLai | April 5, 2010 7:31 PM | Report abuse

I lived in Sweden for 8 1/2 years and actually have Swedish citizenship as well as have US citizenship. I paid more than 60% taxes in Sweden. Everything was taxed, didn't matter how much you make. All because Sweden is a socialist country and they have socialized medicine as well as school is paid for, kids get a monthly payment from birth to 21, free dental till 21, no homless unless you just want to be, etc......

Posted by: mysticnights777 | April 5, 2010 7:22 PM | Report abuse

Wow, the truth comes out. Obama cannot talk without a teleprompter that has the answers to any question posted on it. The dear lady asked a proper question. We are being taxed to much to which Obama could not answer. What an unqualified president!
Of course he is going to tax us until we are the servants of the government. When our tax rates reach 51% we have become serfs to a government that has no solutions but to stuff money where the leaks occur. You havn't seen anything yet, wait until the bond rating company's reduce our rating from AAA to AA and interest rates to conduct simple business begin to climb. People won't be able to get loans, houses will continue to collaps financially, money will be valued even less. Tired of Socialism yet? Remember in November.

Posted by: lhudson828 | April 5, 2010 7:18 PM | Report abuse

@ jwishbone....The fact that you want to lead people around by their nose is more proof of my point...

Posted by: terrywallace1 | April 5, 2010 7:14 PM | Report abuse

jordanlund....good for you. You will have something to compare when they go up....read....the investment does not start this PAST year, next year........hello

But to be clear, it is not only taxes, it will be your cost to live and function here in what used to be a free nation....trickle down does work...even with tax increases and costs added to businesses.

Enjoy

Posted by: jwishbone | April 5, 2010 7:11 PM | Report abuse

"I seem to read almost nothing in these comments other than claims, opinions, bald assertion of things that simply are not facts, ad nauseam."
I find a rub of Rogaine and an antiemetic before reading blogs to be very helpful.

Posted by: richardhed | April 5, 2010 7:06 PM | Report abuse

I hate to break it to the anti-tax crowd, but I just DID my taxes. Guess what? They went DOWN 1% from last year.

$47,427.86 in wages.
$5,306.81 in federal deductions (after my $10 refund!)
$3225.00 in state taxes (counting the extra $146 I have to pay them)

OK, so basic math time... 8531.81 in taxes divided by $47,427.86 in income = a tax rate of 17.99%.

Last year, using the same methodology, it was 19%.

Now the common argument is "Buh, buh! SSI! Medicare! Those are taxes!" They might be marked that way on your W2 but they aren't taxes the way income taxes are.

Even counting them my total tax burden is 25.64% of my income. Far, far less than the tea-baggers think it is.

Posted by: jordanlund | April 5, 2010 7:03 PM | Report abuse

Hey Terrywallace1: In your rambling about educated people I guess you forgot to read your own words....."just too uneducated it seems to comprehend him or his goals for America..."

You should be lead around by your nose....the president is supposed to have the goals of the American people in mind, not "his" as you describe. Think for yourself.

Posted by: jwishbone | April 5, 2010 7:03 PM | Report abuse

"You will know me by the people I surround myself with" Yeah we all know now right? A worthless piece of cr-p. Just look at his group. Wake Up idiots who put him in office!

Posted by: getreal121 | April 5, 2010 7:02 PM | Report abuse

mesite, lets talk analysis of facts, shall we. How about how in MOST LARGE URBAN CENTERS people get food stamps and all kinds of welfare, and from what i saw first hand it is UTTERLY WASTED. My friends who would receive a food cash card, would buy groceries for people and get paid in cash, then go buy their drugs. Some cards have food credit AND cash so you can just go to a party store and get cash, and buy whatever. Crack, 40oz'ers, anything your ghetto trash heart desires. So i ask you, what amount or percentage of waste do you think is justifiable to help just one truely impovershed person?? 5%? 20%? 40-60%??? Because i will tell you its a way of life in most large american cities. The great society and welfare state is a TOTAL FAILURE, and this latest socialist experiment (HCR) is going to fail just as bad if we dont repeal it.

Posted by: HughLai | April 5, 2010 7:00 PM | Report abuse

Yeah, it does state that clearly. So clearly, in fact, that they put the words "promote the general Welfare" in big letters in the preamble of the Constitution so you'd make sure not to miss them. That is what this health care legislation does, it promotes the general welfare. Oops, now the framers of the Constitution are Socialists, too.

You can't pick and choose the parts of the Constitution you do and don't like, it's a package deal. If you don't like part of it, there's an amendment process.

Posted by: treetopflyer | April 2, 2010 7:21 PM | Report abuse

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That's not what the general welfare clause means. Don't accuse people of not knowing what they're talking about when you don't know what you're talking about.

Posted by: HookInMouth |

Actually words mean whatever 5 Supreme court justices say they mean. White is black. no matter.

Posted by: ottothewise | April 5, 2010 6:59 PM | Report abuse

A recent poll shows us that Most people who dont like Obama have an IQ of less than 85...And most people who do like Obama Have above average IQs....This is very true from what I can tell...These comments are proof of this ... No facts just uneducated speculation...

Posted by: terrywallace1 | April 5, 2010 6:58 PM | Report abuse

all this chatter about taxes.
You opposers were asleep during the trillion $ BushIraq war.
You were so scared you were going to be killed by Osama bin Laudin, you were led by the nose, into Iraq, on the false premise of WMDs. Now that you realize you were scammed, none of you have admitted it, none of you have apologized to the rest of us, as though suddenly the WMDs might show up, the last day we are there.
You and your kind owe me an apology.
Your war was bs, and you know it now. No Al Qauida there, and oh by the way, Obama is kicking Taliban butt in Pakistan which was previously too thorny for the Bush Sec of State to negotiate real cooperation from.

Posted by: ottothewise | April 5, 2010 6:57 PM | Report abuse

There are MANY ways to raise taxes without revising the actual tax rates. Inflation pushes up wages - and in the tax code everything is based upon GROSS and ADJUSTED income and is seldom adjusted up for inflation - thus if you have combined income of over 120K - you start losing tax DEDUCTIONS due to the gross pay limit being reached - no longer full write off of college expenses - above $160K NO deductions for any money spent on college - plus now you fall into the minimum 25% tax braket so that ALWAYS 25% of your GROSS pay goes to the FEDERAL government - This could easily be 40% of your TAKE-HOME pay. Add in more fees - user fees - for services - you pay more. Now they always talk about "living wage" - so if two people making good money of 60K a year marry - they now start losing those deductions and effectively pay more - BY DESIGN. To do most of this is by simple rule-making - nothing to do with congress - just publish in the Federal Register and 90 days later those items get elimianted and you will effectively pay more. All legal and correct in "not raising taxes" since 99% of the people see the tax rates as the sole item in taxes. In our local section in Oregon you will pay $4600 in FEES if you have a driveway - plus the cost of paving the first 20 fee - per building code - in order to have access onto your own land. Not a tax at all - just a "fee". No one ever voted on this - add done administratively - and the Federal Government has the same set of standards when it comes to this. You throw the fees onto businesses - where it is NEVER seen except by the owners - and the cost is passed along in higher prices. Medicare can easily just add in co-pays and other stuff - FEES - and do the same to raise a 10s of billions - without raising any "taxes." Its how the game is played in Washington and in every state in the Union.

Posted by: TomPhilo | April 5, 2010 6:46 PM | Report abuse

inverse137, perhaps you have been living under a rock the past two weeks. But recently a GIANT MASSIVE HCR bill passed that includes at least 450 BILLION DOLLARS in new taxes (remember the one that was crammed down the americans throats AGAINST OUR WILL? Its the one where they said we had to pass it to find out whats in it, if that helps refresh your memory).


Wake up and stop drinking the kool-aid.

Posted by: HughLai | April 5, 2010 6:45 PM | Report abuse

If the bill was a good bill, it would sell itself.
Nobody listens to Obama anymore, because
he's lied, he's bribed, he's twisted-arms,
WE KNOW WHAT HE IS.

Posted by: ohioan | April 5, 2010 6:42 PM | Report abuse

Ok, everybody assumes we are overtaxed. Are we? Does somebody have factual studies comparing our tax burden to that of other industrialized countries? Anybody have any figures on what who, in what income levels, pay what share of the taxes? Or is the claim that we are "overtaxed" just another piece of garbage rhetoric. Overtaxed, relative to what? Relative to the benefits we receive from a lot of economic safety nets, and a VERY expensive military machine? Does anybody here give any thought to facts? To analysis of facts? Or do you just want to yell at each other and whine? I seem to read almost nothing in these comments other than claims, opinions, bald assertion of things that simply are not facts, ad nauseam.

Posted by: mesite | April 5, 2010 6:41 PM | Report abuse

President Of The United States, Ba-yak-yak O-blah-blah.

Posted by: paletadelima | April 5, 2010 6:41 PM | Report abuse

Paying a little extra now will be well spent when you actually have coverage and you need it one day, and you will, when you don't have to worry about being dropped and not getting care for your pre-existing condition, when your insurer can't conveniently deny you coverage for certain care and can't raise your rate conveniently for certain conditions, diseases, treatments etc. There are so many areas of our broken and corrupt health care and insurance industry this new health care bill fixes, it is well worth the money. Don't forget if you are unable to pay the Government will subsidize it or in layman's terms, GIVE YOU MONEY to pay for it. I would suggest anyone who is afraid of being able to afford it start looking into how to fill out the paperwork now so you are first in line for the money and ahead of the curve.

Posted by: Hillary08 | April 5, 2010 6:38 PM | Report abuse

@solsticebelle, uhh, maybe you should leave the thinking to the adults.

Obama is in with the insurance industry? Wow, that is an impressive show they all put on. Here I thought the insurance industry was spending millions to defeat Health Care Reform because they were against it and not secretly for it.

Posted by: inverse137 | April 5, 2010 6:35 PM | Report abuse

rajah321, uhh, not to deflate your little tirade there...but just how much have your taxes gone up under Obama?

I mean, I hate to de-rail your little rant with the tiny, ugly fact that your taxes have not gone up one cent.

Posted by: inverse137 | April 5, 2010 6:33 PM | Report abuse

if you think the heathcare companies are the crooks, dont buy their services. pay the doctors directly

Posted by: soteriskaroly | April 5, 2010 6:33 PM | Report abuse

Overtaxed? Before Reagan and co screwed us in the 80s, the super rich paid more than double their current tax rates.

Now they pocket that much more money and it has obviously led to them getting richer and the middle and lower classes getting poorer.

Posted by: tacosalad | April 5, 2010 6:30 PM | Report abuse

gates9 you are in la-la land there. The oblama administration said that the unemployment rate would go up to 9.5% if we did NOTHING. They then borrowed money WE CANT AFFORD (the crapulous package) and are using it to payoff and pad all their political friends/cronies and keeping a half million or so USELESS, WASTEFUL AND REDUNDANT GOVT WORKERS on the doles. When if the economy is shrinking and families and people everywhere having to cut back, WHY DOESNT THE GOVT CUT BACK TOO?
So its not a matter of the economy rebounding or recovering THATS WHAT FREE MARKETS DO. But what they cant do, is sustain such LARGE AMOUNTS OF UNFUNDED MANDATES AND RAMPTANT DEBT AND THESE CRIPPLING MASSIVE DEFICITS. Even your masters, the dems/dums, admit its UNSUSTAINABLE, and since i dont see or imagine them cutting back on GOVT or programs anytime soon, the only way out will be thru taxation, and last time i checked people are already UP TO THEIR EYEBALLS IN DEBT AND TAXES.
Thats why you will see ALOT more than bricks being thrown thru windows if this administration of arrogance continues its socialist agendas.

WE CANT WAIT FOR 2012, RECALL OBAMA THIS YEAR IN 2010!

Posted by: HughLai | April 5, 2010 6:30 PM | Report abuse


The lady is absolutely RIGHT, we are OVERTAXED. Are Obama and the democrats BLIND? No one in America wants to face the raise in tax again. The health care is farcical and terrible for America. Where will they get the money to spend on health care. the answer; "raise taxes"...They should fix the health care system, rather than establish a universal health care. I agree with the republicans, this should not be the right thing to do and they should REPEAL this, I will support the Republicans on this. It is not "bipatisan".

Posted by: rajah321 | April 5, 2010 6:21 PM | Report abuse

Obama uses the same tactic when asked an honest straight forward question. He talks as long as possible per answer to reduce the number of questions he receives and has to answer. He and his SEIU socialists friends, along with his pet groups Free Press and Moveon.org, are trying to silence the truth given on the internet and on programs like Glenn Beck's. They are demonizing the TEA Party movement by making up lies about racist attacks which never happened at the TEA Party rallies. Even after a $100,000 reward was offered for proof of such attacks that day, none have surfaced. The black congressmen lied at the request of Pelosi and Obama to try to weaken the TEA Party movement. We take video cameras to our rallies just to make sure we can prove their lies. The purpose of our movement is to take our country back from the socialist crooked politicians now running and ruining our country and trying to take away our freedoms. Come on out and join our fight for American and for freedom. Obama is leading a crooked lying attack on our country and its success. Obama uses Air Force One like a cheap taxi cab to fly all over the country at tax payer expense and campaign for the Democart agenda. That is illegal. Obama should impeached as soon as possible.

Posted by: good_angel | April 5, 2010 6:03 PM | Report abuse

It seems to me that people are either i) irate that it took 17 minutes to explain the country's fiscal policies or ii) baffled that we have a president who can do that.

Some people complain that there's no substance and then don't know what to do when it's given to them. They complain that politicians are always in campaign mode giving sound-bites and never give details, then complain when they get the details.

Personally, I certainly do NOT long for the days of Bush's answers (neither in substance nor style).

Posted by: ncooty | April 5, 2010 5:59 PM | Report abuse

If you pay taxes now at any level you will be paying more under this new Health Care plan or you will be seeing severe cuts in existing public services. It is going to be one or the other if not BOTH.

Two real examples: In cash strapped California this will add about 500,000 more people to the Medicaid rolls at an additional cost to the state of about $1.6 BILLION. In Arizona it will add just over 105,000 people to the Medicaid rolls at an additional cost to the state of about $365 Million. The money has to come from somewhere because the states don't have the option of printing more money. So what services do you want to cut to pay for this if you don't want to see a tax hike?

Now let's talk about the next agenda item for this administration; immigration reform. Once the new round of amnesty is put through these Medicaid numbers will go up at least double, triple or more. So where is that money going to come from if not from more severe service cuts or tax hikes?

I hate clouding the issue with facts, but the time will come when we have to pay up for what has been done and it won't be easy.

Posted by: ddtusa | April 5, 2010 5:52 PM | Report abuse

The answer below IS WRONGO !!!!! sorry

Posted by: yourmomscalling | April 5, 2010 5:49 PM | Report abuse

Democrats WILL keep majorities in the House and Senate.

Obama WILL win a second term.

Why?

1. Look at the alternative
2. He's doing a good job

enjoy the recovery

Posted by: Gates9 | April 5, 2010 5:48 PM | Report abuse

spacer: He should have said... 'Your taxes are not going up unless you make over $250,000 if married and $200,000 if single'


OsamaBinBiden cant say that anymore, SINCE THATS A 100% BOLD FACED LIE. I dont recall any exemptions for people making less than 200K per year for the cigarette tax. I dont recall hearing that in the new CAFE standards announced last week, that people making less than 200K will be exempt from the avg $900-5000 increased cost per car. And the same is true on the socialized obamacare, i missed the part where people making less than 200K a year will be exempt from all medical device taxes newly established in the HCR bill. Im sure plenty of people making less than 200K will require all kinds of medical devices when getting health care. And of course spacer, next year when ur SOCIALIST IN CHIEF has his 'bi-partisan presidential debt commission' report back to him that we are going to need a VAT or euro style national sales tax (10-15????) on top of all our other taxes just to pay for this 30 trillion in unfunded mandates we just signed on to. Now something tells me the obammster is going to ask everyone to suffer just a little and pay their fair share to 'level' out the playing field. PFFFFffffffft! PEOPLE WILL BE THROWING ALOT MORE THAN BRICKS IF THAT HAPPENS!!!!!

We cant wait for 2012, RECALL OBAMA IN 2010!

Posted by: HughLai | April 5, 2010 5:39 PM | Report abuse

When will the hate of our Lord and Master Comrade Obama end? Surely even the most ignorant capitalist (redundant I know) can see that the evil insurance devils have been sucking the very souls from our dear fellow workers. It is time indeed to hand the power and control over to our leaders who are smarter than we will ever be. It is time for neo-socialists everywhere to demand they take our money for the good of those unable or unwilling. Long Live Comrade Obama - May he reign for a decades!

Posted by: Geowlittle | April 5, 2010 5:08 PM | Report abuse

He's no constitutional law professor, he's a joke. They can't even confirm that he attended Columbia much less received a diploma. If he truly understood the constitution then he'd know that he just shredded it with the 'passage' of this TOTALLY Unconstitutional law which WILL be overturned. If not now then when we get a real Free Enterprising President in office. I just hope my grandkids don't have to pay for what all of the zombies who put this clown in office have allowed him to create in debt!!

Posted by: thesnooker2 | April 5, 2010 4:48 PM | Report abuse

Please give our President a break here! He used to be a constitutional law professor for years. He probably had a relapse to the times when he had to analyze those long and winding Supreme Court opinions.

I completely get the President. It could be difficult to turn off that exceptionally bright mind of his and reduce his discourse to sound bites. With the dumbing down of the country and the type of news analysis that we are subjected to, soundbites are what we have grown to prefer. How sad!

Posted by: vscribe | April 5, 2010 3:59 PM | Report abuse

Folks:
Why don't we have the same Health Care that Obama has. That is "NO" deductable, copay, limit. We already pay $15,000.00 per person now. (Obama speech on October, 9, 2009) that's 4.5 "Trillion" dollars per year. But big Insurance wants $100,000.00 per person or 10 "Trillion" bucks per "YEAR"!!! Plus, Insurance industry sells some 3,000 other types of insurance. Your home, vehicles, business plus all the public buildings, transportation, sports events, ships at sea, etc. They aren't going out of business if they "NEVER" sold any Health Insurance. But we have the Government, federal, state, local as a "Shill" for the Insurance Industry. So we must pay, pay, pay!!!

See you on the soup lines.
The password is: Chicken Noodle.

Posted by: robryant | April 5, 2010 3:55 PM | Report abuse

intvguy wrote: OMG! How AWFUL that a government would ALLOW 50 million of its citizens the FREEDOM to not buy health insurance!
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Yeah, they have the freedom to DIE because they can't afford health insurance or because their insurance company dumped them when they actually needed the coverage their premiums supposedly payed for. Of course, if they choose not to die, they also have the freedom visit a faith healer and get a miracle cure. That's pretty much the republican health care plan.

Posted by: Spacer | April 5, 2010 3:26 PM | Report abuse

@jpinter26
You stated "As for the rest...your Fear, and lack of Understanding is showing.
I come on here with a thoughtful post..."
Is this what you mean by thoughtful "The Wannabe Revolutionaries/teabaggers" or is that what you call "tr[ing] and counter all the foaming at the mouth?" The use of the term teabagger is extremely disgusting, and displays an immature approach to debate; it is not at all thought full. As far as quoting scripture it would not be an issue if it did not follow the spewing of perversion that you wrote previously.
As a Conservative I do agree Glenn Beck is out there. Beck is about shock-and-awe. I do not like his take on all things though some does make since.
It is true Liberal does not always equate to socialism...but some of the people that are considered liberal can be equated to socialism.
What I find funny is that while Bush was in office we had people slandering him and it was okay by the media standards and un-American by Republicans. With Obama in office you cannot disagree with him without being attacked for being a racists by the media and most democrats, these same people now say that it hurts the country to talk against the president. If it is okay to disagree and protest one president then it should okay to protest another. I must be a really bad constituent as I disagreed with a decent amount of what Bush did and I have disagreed with almost all of what Obama has done.
Oh and if you would like to discuss religion you can email me at lambforgiven@gmail.com

Posted by: dhshaffer83 | April 5, 2010 3:13 PM | Report abuse

Everybody has their off days. Obama should have kept his answer two sentences long:

"Don't belive the Republican lies. Your taxes are not going up unless you make over $250,000 if married and $200,000 if single."

Posted by: Spacer | April 5, 2010 3:13 PM | Report abuse

I'm gonna wade in ,one more time, then I'll leave y'all to it.
The issue is NOT that the Gov. "allowed" all these folks (including me) to "choose to not buy insurance". The issue is that all these folks,(including me) have been excluded from making that choice to begin with! I would love to 1 be able to afford, and 2. be "eligible" for insurance. I am neither, not because of the Gov (unless you count it's lack of regulation), but because of the "Industry" effectively excluding me from the marketplace.
You would rather I continue to be unable to work, thus draining my family, and the society as a whole?
Is there nothing left that makes us all a part of something?
I am a fifth generation Texan...am I not American enough to give a damn about?
Think, for a moment, what kind of society your "policies" would engender.
Would you really want to live in such a place? Where the kids of the poor are just cast out? Where the poor, themselves, are just cast out?
But ,for the Grace of God,go I...
There is, currently, a country where all the Right's policy prescriptions are operative.
It's called Somalia.
Think about what you're advocating.
And please, think before you speak.
(and this place has Spell Check.
Try it!)

Posted by: jpinter26 | April 5, 2010 2:58 PM | Report abuse

Barack Obama, stoner.

Posted by: POST-ID | April 5, 2010 2:52 PM | Report abuse

Is Obama planning on coming down here and visiting the Earthquake Damage? I hope not. We're getting along just fine without him... even have our own t-shirts:
http://www.zazzle.com/baja+earthquake+gifts

Posted by: FRedStatescom | April 5, 2010 2:48 PM | Report abuse

Right off Obamacare will not increase taxes. But, Obamacare will increase healthcare cost and fees for businesses, which in the end serve the same function as increasing taxes. The increased cost of doing business due to Obamacare will be passed on to the consumer as prices increases. AT&T and a score of other businesses and corporations are re-adjusting their projected bottomline due to Obamacare. This will not only increase the cost of doing business but also negatively affect job growth. This will take money out of the pockets of consumers and further hurt our struggling economy and a depressed labor market.
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703312504575141642402986422.html

Posted by: larry22 | April 5, 2010 2:48 PM | Report abuse

Does obomacare cover being "Bored to Death" ? Is this the type of "Death Panel" we've been hearing about? Maybe the telepromters couldn't be used because someone had installed BS detectors in their circuitry and they wouldn't work with this rambling, Castro type, speech. I wish the TV cameras would show more crowd reaction and less of the Arrogant One talking down his nose to Americans.

Posted by: egoetz1 | April 5, 2010 2:36 PM | Report abuse

OMG! How AWFUL that a government would ALLOW 50 million of its citizens the FREEDOM to not buy health insurance! These sheeple should be ashamed of themselves! They should be FORCED to buy insurance, and then pay for the insurance of all those others who cannot afford it! Hmmm, and while they are at it, they all need to buy a GM vehicle as well!

Posted by: intvguy | April 5, 2010 2:35 PM | Report abuse

1st, DhSchaeffer...I love discussing such things.
As for the rest...your Fear, and lack of Understanding is showing.
I come on here with a thoughtful post, to try and counter all the foaming at the mouth, and in response, we have more foaming at the mouth.
Liberal doesn't equal Socialism/Communism/Fascism/the Devil/etc...turn off Glen Beck...go and study. The Ignorance and Ad Hominem so evident today, almost exclusively from the Right, is what's destroying this country.
All the hatred and bile and pseudorevolutionary talk.
And, to whomever it was...I didn't know that Conservatives had exclusive rights to Bible Quotes...that's news to me.
Separation of Church and State refers to the government, not Citizens...read the Constitution, indeed!
First Amendment doesn't protect you from me, but from the Government. I am Free to counter your Ignorance and Spittle in any way I see fit.
It's called Liberty.
Get used to it.

Posted by: jpinter26 | April 5, 2010 2:31 PM | Report abuse

Comrade Obama takes our money immediatly to pay for a non-negotiable healthcare program that doesn't kick in for years and asks us to give the program time? Is he nuts!!!!!!

For those who believe the upfront money will be put in escrow to be used when the plan kicks in you should have another joint.

Posted by: djsteil | April 5, 2010 2:26 PM | Report abuse

I had to look all over to find the actual context of the speech, and finally found it at: http://www.gastongazette.com/news/thank-45598-charlotte-president.html
The speech is long, and at the end President Obama apologized for it being so long, but what he did was explain the misinformation that leads people to believe that there will be an added tax on the middle class, and why, with many explanations taken from MANY examples, this belief is false. He tried to cover all the bases concerning the misinformation from the right wing, and in the effort gave a LONG explanation, but in the end a correct explanation.

Posted by: berndtc | April 5, 2010 2:14 PM | Report abuse

I wish someone would ask him this, "If this healthcare law is so great, and will save us $100B plus over the next ten years, why do we need to pass the doctor's fix that will cost $250B over ten years?" Or maybe, "Why wasn't the doctor's fix included in the healthcare law and why do we need to pass it separately?" or maybe, "Will you veto the doctor's fix if it passes both Houses of Congress? Doesn't that make you look less credible on the healthcare issue?"
I think these are the questions that most Americans would like answered. However, when the media allows him to do and say whatever he wants (it's criminal how the Fourth Estate is abandoning the people they are supposed to protect - the taxpayers), we get 17 minutes of babble and the "most intelligent President of ALL time" praise from their cheerleaders (the media).

Posted by: slake2 | April 5, 2010 2:09 PM | Report abuse

Remember:

Keep them stupid and keep them fed and th sheeple will follow you anywhere. Can the man be in more disingenous? And Redhawk2 so you need to have a collage education to understand fiscal responsablity... talk about narrow minded efficaious diatribe a piuece of paper does not give you insite but real world expeiance running a multi millio or billon dollar business that is what we need .... IF YOU ANIT GOT IT IN DA BANK YOU CAN"T BUY IT ... simple everday people math. STOP the bowworing against the future of the economy and begin to pay our bills ... that would mean cutting fat ... ohh no the congress whould acutly have to do their job.

Posted by: ThorirHund | April 5, 2010 11:43 AM | Report abuse
Do we needc a college Degree??? HELL NO but the elitists that have them apparently have not gotten full use of them... They needed to be cut up for TP or kitty box liners just like the Ny Slime, and such publications can be put to good use... the cRETINS and advocates of Kensyan theories in the Current White OUTHOUSEjust DO NOT GET IT!!!

Posted by: redhawk2 | April 5, 2010 2:04 PM | Report abuse

To pull that thread to cause Obama to become complete undone all one need do is ask this question, "How will your healthcare reform lead to a balance budget and reduced federal deficit without raising our taxes?"

Three days later Obama would still be talking without ever answering this simple question.

Posted by: larry22 | April 5, 2010 1:56 PM | Report abuse

It's fun to use big words, don't you agree?

Really, that's all you've got?! A typo? Come on!! Nothing about the president not being an American citizen or anything? Disappointed...
My brain is huge though. You got that right. Actually my skull is barely big enough to hold it.

Posted by: ihearyou | April 5, 2010 1:55 PM | Report abuse

@m_richert

Obama is like a cool glass of water to a man hanging by his fingernails from a cliff: useless.

His many words do not change the emptyness of them, nor does the sincerity in his voice or the passion in his rhetoric change the fact that he is completely and resoundingly wrong.

A glib fool is just a well understood fool.

Posted by: pine | April 5, 2010 1:45 PM | Report abuse

What do you get when you cross a national socialist with a bolshevik- a democrat. The people who voted this dictator into office are to blame for the destruction of America. Everything Obama bin Laden says is a lie, straight out of the Ministry of Truth.( That's from George Orwell's 1984, for those democrat's out there). God Bless America- down with the dictatorship!

Posted by: freebooty | April 5, 2010 1:38 PM | Report abuse

50 seconds into this video clip Michelle Obama said she and Barrack took an HIV test in Kenya, Barrack Obama's home country, to show his fellow Kenyans not to fear HIV test.

http://patriotupdate.com/stories/read/3261/Video-Michelle-Obama-Baracks-Home-Country-Is-Kenya

Posted by: larry22 | April 5, 2010 1:34 PM | Report abuse

m_richert ----- You are right he does not use talking points he has a teleprompter for that. But on to a tough question when is his going to put in normal everyday speak how he is going to pay for the health care bill? He has yet to pay for the bail outs, job bill (which by the way did nothing). So most of us are waiting for the other shoe to drop when is he going to stand up and say how much are taxes are going up? Oh that is right he will never say that out right because he would rather lie about the cost and push it on someone else.

Posted by: shepp45 | April 5, 2010 1:30 PM | Report abuse

Only liberals and/or academics (usually one and the same) are impressed by being talked to death in circles of words that mean nothing and are meant to obfuscate the ignorance of the speaker or exploit the ignorance of the listener.

The Gettysburg address was 278 words.

Posted by: Exliberal | April 5, 2010 1:28 PM | Report abuse

The talking points Obama uses are disconnected from reality but a socialist utopian fantasy. Therefore, he will lead us nowhere. Into the wilderness of the radical progressive's nightmare where the human miseries and follies of the 20th century are repeated.

Posted by: larry22 | April 5, 2010 1:28 PM | Report abuse

Obama is like a glass of cool water to someone dying of thirst. He actually knows the answers and sees the American people as folks who ask questions to get answers, not talking points. He realizes that while Fox and the Party people encourage 15 second attention spans and appeal to people who have them, most people want to listen to anyone who is explaining to them the things that really do affect their lives. As I said, Obama doesn't talk in talking points

Posted by: m_richert | April 5, 2010 1:19 PM | Report abuse

The Beatitudes, Matt 5:1-13, and all gospel passages that mention "the poor" is talking about our state of being "spiritually poor", which from God's perspective, is the state all of humankind. All of us are "the poor" in spirit. Except, Jesus the Christ. And, except, of course, the liberal, radical, progressive who want are completely carnal, and lack spirituality, see the poor in literal terms as someone without money because the "greedy rich" took it. Progressives don't personally help the poor they force others to help the poor.

To the radical, progressive the state, government, is their church. Socialism and communism is their religion. And, their politicians, like Obama, are their priest whose mission is, not to spread the gospel, but to force the re-distribution of the wealth of others, to the literal poor, in order to force into existence the progressive's view of Utopia, social and economic justice.

Posted by: larry22 | April 5, 2010 1:18 PM | Report abuse

Obama is like a glass of cool water to someone dying of thirst. He actually knows the answers and sees the American people as folks who ask questions to get answers, not talking points. He realizes that while Fox and the Party people encourage 15 second attention spans and appeal to people who have them, most people want to listen to anyone who is explaining to them the things that really do affect their lives. As I said, Obama doesn't talk in talking points

Posted by: m_richert | April 5, 2010 1:18 PM | Report abuse

This is a Communist POS I hope the IDIOTS who voted this person into office are happy, I hope they do a little research next time.

Posted by: mikeygee1214 | April 5, 2010 1:16 PM | Report abuse

Better to keep your mouth shut and be thought a fool than to open it and remove all doubt-Mark Twain.

Posted by: ChiGirl21 | April 5, 2010 1:14 PM | Report abuse

@ihearyou It's fun to use big words, don't you agree? It feels nice to feel that you have a big brain, doesn't it? Because we all know now how big your brain is, I know you will be able to use these tips to make your brain seem even bigger:
1. Look up those big words (like genous) before using them. That will help you avoid using them incorrectly or spelling them wrong. (Oopsie!)
2. Check into the operation of that key on your keyboard labeled Caps Lock. Words in all capitals are not bigger words, even though they look bigger.

HTH,
An actual genius

Posted by: RigorousOpportunity | April 5, 2010 1:03 PM | Report abuse

"Where is that damned teleprompter?"

Posted by: mrsharfer | April 5, 2010 12:56 PM | Report abuse

jpinter26,
I think you need to re-read Matt 25:31-46 and take it in context. He was not talking about people that were forced into charity He was talking to those who openly gave. Obamacare is a taxation not a charity. Please do not take the bible out of context. I do not support this bill yet I have bought food for the homeless, and given clothes to the needy. Man cannot make it into heaven by works but by faith and the grace of God alone. If you would like to discuss theology further I would be happy to through email facebook or whatever. People here though they good afford to listen to the Gospel may not be wanting to hear it. If anybody is just let me know and I will be happy to share my email with you all. And yes the email will be a newly created one just for this, I'm not a fan of span like I know some of you will do with it.

Posted by: dhshaffer83 | April 5, 2010 12:54 PM | Report abuse

"...the only advanced country that allows 50 million of its citizens to not have any health insurance,"

In my humble opinion, it doesn't make sense that government can allow or disallow us to have insurance, but I just don't think that this is the government's role.

Also, maybe we have (or possibly had) the best healthcare in the world because government 'allowed' 50 million to be uninsured.

Finally, I'm tired of the whining about big, bad corporations. They are so much more efficient that government can or ever will be. So what if someone is making profit? That is the natural order of things.

I understand the need to provide insurance for the uninsured. I'd gladly do my share of that, but I do not want to be forced into being taken care of by the government. I like being independent and I don't buy into your religion of huge government.

Posted by: wormgetter | April 5, 2010 12:52 PM | Report abuse

Pathetic.....this is the current leader of The United States of America

Posted by: continued | April 5, 2010 12:51 PM | Report abuse

"Stop picking on my pwezident!!! He give me tingles." Chris Mathews

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7sllmo73U2A

Posted by: yesnut1 | April 5, 2010 12:50 PM | Report abuse

You see, this is what happens when an intelligent president takes the reigns of the country. Righties have no idea how to react. They would much rather have a dullard like George Bush take the stage with his cowboy cr*p eating grin, and give a 2 or 3 word explanation and then take about evil and religion.

Posted by: WhenRightiesFailAmericaWins | April 5, 2010 12:50 PM | Report abuse

Castro would be proud!

Posted by: Dambama | April 5, 2010 12:48 PM | Report abuse

Windbag!

Posted by: DeLyonGetty | April 5, 2010 12:41 PM | Report abuse

hey kevin and the rest of you over educaion bragging elitist: as i recall henry ford, billy gates, larry ellison, rush limberger, glenny beck, and my favorite Mr Drudge did not graduate from college but any of them could of bought a university any time they wanted to. Now guess who the dummy is. I never graduated because at the time i was making twice what the college president was making each year.. along the way i have employeed over 250 people So thanks for calling me a dummy. The obummber train is heading for the cliff with our 14 trillion so you libs just stay on board.. audios amigos

Posted by: jeffers47 | April 5, 2010 12:41 PM | Report abuse

Love you from the left who think Obama is better the Bush. Obama is going to cost this country more then the last three Pres you wait and see. But most who are for him are those who don't care about taxes

Posted by: shepp45 | April 5, 2010 12:41 PM | Report abuse

When Doris asked Obama about high taxes Obama's answer was a long-winded moral, not logical, discussion. All of Obama's explanations about anything are never a logical discourse but a rambling moral discourse.

Obama appears to believe he is the personification of the 19th century German political philosopher, Friedrich Nietzsche's, "Overman."

Friedrich Nietzsche, as well as, radical progressives, believed the Judeo-Christian belief-system was the stumbling block for the creation of the "Overman" and true social and economic justice in a world populated by government created, Supermen. Therefore, central government, by legislation, not the church, is the mechanism for modern society to spread a standard moral-system to create the Superman, which Obama believes he is. Obama believed he was morally superior to Doris, and the majority of Americans, because Doris was selfish, in Obama's eyes. Why would a superior being compromise with an inferior being, in Obama's mind? Why should Obama listen or take into consideration the ideas or viewpoints of morally inferior Americans?

http://larry22.blogtownhall.com/2009/06/05/obama,_the_overman_and_the_will_to_power.thtml

Posted by: larry22 | April 5, 2010 12:40 PM | Report abuse

Hey, jpinter26!
What ever happened to the Separation of Church and State? I love it when liberals quote the Bible. Last refuge of a scoundrel. Why is it proper for the Government to force me to engage in Christian Charity but not allow a nativity scene in front of city hall? Close your Bible and open your Constitution. Article I Section 8 says Congress has the right "To raise and support Armies" and "To provide and maintain a Navy". Show me where it says they can force me to buy health insurance. I get to choose which EVIL corporations I support. It's called LIBERTY. Look that word up. I don't want the government TELLING me where or when to spend my money.

Posted by: wade3417 | April 5, 2010 12:37 PM | Report abuse

Windbag!

Posted by: DeLyonGetty | April 5, 2010 12:36 PM | Report abuse

That was a pointed and mean-spirited article that invited mean-spirited responses. It also seems that you missed the point of her question. Yes, it was long and multifaceted and could have been shorter, but in it he was able to give a comprehensive response to an emotional, politically charged and value-laden question. The response was addressed to the public in general and not just to her in particular.
Let me suggest a possible and more likely scenario about what was going on. This is the part you as a journalist appeared to miss. Maybe the lady already had her mind made up (as most do who ask that question) and was not interested in a reasonable understanding regarding the use of tax monies and was unable, or unwilling, to accept any response --long or short --that countered her own views. She just wanted a moment in the limelight and was bored by having to endure an answer. You graciously gave her that splash and submitted it to the world. But instead of showing it for whqat it was, you simply critiqued President Obama's long response. Congratulations. Is that the role of informed journalism? I think not. It may be the new and popular norm, but it is not responsible reporting.

Posted by: cambo1 | April 5, 2010 12:30 PM | Report abuse

I love the liberal definition of "landslide". 51 or 52%.

UMM.. IT WAS BIGGER PERCENTAGE THAN GEORGE W. GOT. YOU MIGHT WANT TO LOOK INTO THAT. AND, YES THEY CAN. THEY HAVE THE MAJORITY, AGAIN, YOU MIGHT WANT TO LOOK INTO HOW THAT ALL WORKS AS WELL, GENOUS.

Posted by: ihearyou | April 5, 2010 12:09 PM | Report abuse

All I have to say is Thank God John McCain and Sarah Palin are not running this country.

Posted by: WhenRightiesFailAmericaWins | April 5, 2010 12:04 PM | Report abuse

Let's examine Obama's argument: "the only advanced country that allows 50 million of its citizens to not have any health insurance"

National Populations
England - 51 million
France - 64 million
German - 82 mil
Italy - 60 mil
Spain - 45 mil
Poland - 38 mil
Canada - 33 mil
Russia - 141 mil
China - 1.3 bil
India - 1.2 bil
Japan - 127 mil
Mexico - 109 mil

Which of the above countries provides healthcare for millions of non-citizens because that is the "50 million people" Obama's argument is based? There are only a few million, no where near the 50 million figure, of uninsured or under-insured Aemrican citizens Obama throws around to justify Obamacare.

Posted by: larry22 | April 5, 2010 12:04 PM | Report abuse

"LISTEN FOLKS, WE ELECTED THIS PRESIDENT IN A LANDSLIDE VICTORY."

I love the liberal definition of "landslide". 51 or 52% is most certainly NOT a "landslide". It's barely a majority. Of course, just because a "majority" of people voted a certain way, doesn't mean that they can run roughshod over everyone else. Our government was designed to PREVENT the tyranny of the the majority. Crack open a book sometime.

Posted by: idiocy | April 5, 2010 11:56 AM | Report abuse

Think he is avoiding the question??? WOW, I hope if you voted for this guy, your happy! This is becoming embarrassing.

Posted by: dthayes86 | April 5, 2010 11:46 AM | Report abuse

Remember:

Keep them stupid and keep them fed and th sheeple will follow you anywhere. Can the man be in more disingenous? And Redhawk2 so you need to have a collage education to understand fiscal responsablity... talk about narrow minded efficaious diatribe a piuece of paper does not give you insite but real world expeiance running a multi millio or billon dollar business that is what we need .... IF YOU ANIT GOT IT IN DA BANK YOU CAN"T BUY IT ... simple everday people math. STOP the bowworing against the future of the economy and begin to pay our bills ... that would mean cutting fat ... ohh no the congress whould acutly have to do their job.

Posted by: ThorirHund | April 5, 2010 11:43 AM | Report abuse

What audacity - just look and analyze his comment - "the only advanced country that allows 50 million of its citizens to not have any health insurance," he said." "ALLOWS" - whatever "rights" you do have are "allowed" according to Obama, subject to change at his notice. So - he's gonna make it so you "MUST" have insurance and squeeze and fine who he can and use the fines and tax on good working people to buy votes from the people he can.

Posted by: phtsearch | April 5, 2010 11:42 AM | Report abuse

http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/remarks-president-a-discussion-jobs-and-economy-charlotte-north-carolina

Here's the transcript...that woman's question is about halfway through.
The Wannabe Revolutionaries/teabaggers,etc..would do well to actually read it!...or have someone read it to you..before you pass judgment.
It's called Nuance. It is necessary, sometimes, when discussing complex issues.
On the issue of Taxes,re: healthcare, we get the Government we pay for...as it stands, you all are paying much more to Corporations...For Profit Healthcare is an unmitigated disaster.This little, tiny step towards Reform is welcome...but I'll still push for Single Payer. We seem to be able to afford bullets and nukes and billion dollar airplanes and tax cuts for the super rich and military bases all over the world...I guess that's ok w/ you?
I'm 40...paid into the system my whole life. Now, I can't work, can't get insurance, and "don't qualify" for the current mess of a "safety net".
Go and read the Transcript...then go and read Matthew 25:31-46.

Posted by: jpinter26 | April 5, 2010 11:40 AM | Report abuse

There is no question that at times it seems our president is in way over his head. His odd behavior several times recently makes me wonder if he might be smoking dope again. Just watch him closely!

Posted by: elcaudillo | April 5, 2010 11:40 AM | Report abuse

LISTEN FOLKS, WE ELECTED THIS PRESIDENT IN A LANDSLIDE VICTORY. HE PROMISED TO REFORM HEALTH CARE WHICH IS EXACTLY WHAT HE'S DONE. SO THE "HOPEY CHANGIE" THING THAT PALIN CROWS ABOUT IS WORKING OUT QUITE NICELY, THANKS.
LETS NOT FORGET, OUR FORMER PRESIDENT COULDN'T EVEN ARTICULATE THE WORD NUCLEAR, LIED ABOUT IRAQ, AND HAS THE BLOOD OF 10'S OF THOUSANDS OF INNOCENT IRAQIS ON HIS HANDS. OBAMA, NOT SO MUCH.....

Posted by: ihearyou | April 5, 2010 11:40 AM | Report abuse

My tile setter who immigrated from the Czech Republic tells me Obama's agenda is socialism just like in Europe, and that medical care in Europe doesn't work and is about to be reformed to be more like what we've always had in the US. He also told me about how even with rationed care/govt-controlled care, people with money pay under the table for adequate medical care. If that happens in Europe, you know it will happen here. Obama is a dimbulb.

Posted by: SchroederBaker | April 5, 2010 11:34 AM | Report abuse

Hey LogicalSC:

Didn't Nero start the fire and blame it on the Jews? Maybe that would be more apt. POTUS will say - we've given the people what they want and blame it on us for not going along with their new "theft" for the suffering. I say leave it to the people to give to charities and churches like they used to ...to care for the suffering and do some serious TORT reform. All they have to do is their job....to keep the costs down. AND Medicare / Medicaid only pay a % on the dollar to the healthcare industry ..historically. THAT is why costs are up at the insurers. The INSURED cover the government shortfalls.

I say they stop using our tax dollars for their "retirement" package entitlements. They get government health care and all the rest just like us....period!

Posted by: talkinghead2 | April 5, 2010 11:33 AM | Report abuse

I believe he could have kept it simple as he did with Joe the Plumber and just told her it's called "Redistribution of the Wealth"...

But no worries people, there is always VAT, Cap-n-Trade, Green Tax coming our way which will create more taxes to support those on Welfare... excuse me, "social justice". Yet to come to a store by you, will be grocery stores, 7-11's, restaurants, etc. that will be increasing the cost of their goods & services "to us" in an effort offset their employee HC insurance premiums...

At that point BO will wash his hands of the matter, telling us it was NOT "he" who created that form of trickle-down economics

Posted by: Irish2DaBone | April 5, 2010 11:29 AM | Report abuse

Medicare, Medicaid, and Social Security make up 60+ percent of the whole US budget. With $14 TRILLION national debt and a yearly budget shortfall of $1.5 TRILLION, this administration knows it is unsustainable or we go over a cliff. The Deficit Reduction Commission President Obama formed this past year reports its findings after the November election.

Watch for a national tax on consumption (VAT: value-added tax) to be imposed to pay for this healthcare monstrosity, similar to other European nations with government healthcare.

This is where a manufacturer is charged a VAT on all of the supplies they purchase for producing a product. Once product reaches the shelf, the consumer who purchases it must pay the VAT that applies to him or her.

We are stuck with this multi-trillion dollar unfunded liability until the next presidential election. A majority of fiscal conservatives are needed in Congress this November to deny funding.

Posted by: ILMom | April 5, 2010 11:25 AM | Report abuse

Ask Obama what time it is, and he will tell you how to build a watch. Geeez, and this is the president of the USA. No employer would ever hire this idiot.

Posted by: dolson_williams | April 5, 2010 11:25 AM | Report abuse

It will be much better when Mitt Romney is President in 2012...

Posted by: Phil6 | April 5, 2010 11:24 AM | Report abuse

No, Mister President, you did NOT answer the question and no, Mister President, we don't intend to listen to another seventeen minutes of political bloviation.

Posted by: OhYeahBabe | April 5, 2010 11:19 AM | Report abuse

Talking about standing the phrase "Free Speach" on it's head?!

Posted by: JeffersonAdams1 | April 5, 2010 11:17 AM | Report abuse

Typical Obama. Ask him a simple question and get a rambling lecture on needing to spread the wealth. Can anyone say Obama is not a die hard socialist without laughing? Even the most ardent Obama supporters are getting nervous. The media should do a report on how many Obama supporters have lost thier jobs over the last year. Probably 80% of the new unemployed are Obama supporters? Why? When companies face more taxes, higher fees, and increased mandates, the more of the unskilled, less educated get layed off (hint: Obama supporters).

Posted by: jerrystroud | April 5, 2010 11:15 AM | Report abuse

My guess is that he doesn't know much about the bill to go on for 17 minutes. I think Barack Obama is a very intelligent man who speaks eloquent, but I don't think he is the uber intellect everyone this he is. I would bet that most members of Congress are pretty much the same. I believe that the people will give Congress and the President a message this fall and show them Real Change ......

Posted by: buckys59 | April 5, 2010 11:15 AM | Report abuse

I will believe in healthcare reform that Congress includes itself in.

I will never believe in healthcare reform that Congress expempts itself from.

Time and time again it has been shown that government is the most inefficient allocator of resources and now they have control of a sizable part of the world's largest economy. What could go wrong?


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Posted by: oldnova | April 5, 2010 11:15 AM | Report abuse

SIMPLY STATED, THE MAN IS WORTHLESS TO THE AMERICAN REPUBLIC.....MOST OF US HAVE SEEN HIS TRUE INTENTIONS.....IT'S ALL ABOUT ME....ME......ME......SADLY, WE HAVE 2 1/2 MORE YEARS OF HIS TRYING TO DECEIVE US.....HIS LEGACY IS WHAT IS IMPORTANT TO HIM......NOT THE AMERICAN PUBLIC......SO PLEASE MR OBAMA, LESS TALK PLEASE AND MORE ACTION ON JOB CREATION PLEASE.

Posted by: baldassari1 | April 5, 2010 11:13 AM | Report abuse

I am surprised that people can still look at him and support him. He has not seen Gallup poll numbers over 50% in weeks. Obama needs to shut up and start listening to the people!

Posted by: shepp45 | April 5, 2010 10:56 AM | Report abuse

Oh do we have here a perfect example of Progressive elitist narcisstic MORON type probably a Professor of IDIOCY from and Eastern scholl working as an elevator operator in the Empire State building " going UP"? Read on and Decide!!!LMAO!!!
"WELCOME MOUTH-BREATHING DRUDGETARDS!

Q: What do Drudge, Limbaugh, Hannity, and Beck all have in common?

A: None of them could even graduate from college.

Yet you trust Drudge to control your information about economics and tax policy.

Think for yourselves Drudgetards!"

Funny isn't it that in spite of this enormous disadvantage they are all multi-millionaires with national name recognition and followings. Tow of them are published authors. They actually influence the ebb and flow of national thought.

What's your claim to fame? Park cars, operate a lemonade stand, what?

Posted by: Fangorn | April 5, 2010 9:23 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: redhawk2 | April 5, 2010 10:55 AM | Report abuse

The supporters of Ramblin Man need to get a new script.... and Obama the Rambling Man needs to reload TOTUS! Then come November 2010 and 2012 the rest of us need to make certain the the Ramblin Man and his progressive friends in Congress are unemployed!

Posted by: Rank1 | April 5, 2010 10:54 AM | Report abuse

Give the Majik Messiah Credit though! He did keep the ONE and ONly promise made during the Campaign : I want to Unite the Country"... and HE DID.. United Americans AGAINST HIS POLICIES... and now Jammah Cawtah is no longer the WORST president in History!

Posted by: redhawk2 | April 5, 2010 10:49 AM | Report abuse

Olive branch to Obama supporters... It's ok... we all get duped from time to time. The important thing is that we get a normal person as president in 2112, someone who understands the essence of America and the presidency. Just a normal person... not a big challenge.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7sllmo73U2A

Posted by: yesnut1 | April 5, 2010 10:47 AM | Report abuse

john__doe wrote:
Repukes are pathetic..

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Maybe we should vote Bush out of office. Oh wait, we did. And the new guy is even worse.

Posted by: lug21 | April 5, 2010 10:17 AM | Report abuse

the FOOL makes me miss CARTER!

Posted by: redhawk2 | April 5, 2010 10:45 AM | Report abuse

Of course he rambles. He is naught but an empty suit with the right set of the jaw and the right genetics: ironically, a terminally small man of Biblical proportions. The rambling is the sound of his ill conceived ideas bouncing off the walls of the cavernous vacuum on the inside of his pointy head.

The poor fool does not understand the bill, nor does he understand the disastrous magnitude of what he has done. He has governed against the expressed will of the people, saddling them, their children and their children's children with the mother of all government bureaucracies. He has set this nation on the course of simultaneously nationalizing the healthcare industry thereby aborting long term innovation and technical progress, changed the dynamics that attract the best and brightest to medicine as a career, destroying the health insurance industry, creating a bloated and ever-growing tax parasite that will shortly dwarf the combined sum of all other entitlements and government giveaways, set up the conditions from which healthcare rationing will emerge as it has in every single nation that has nationalized healthcare, put in place the conditions that will cause both the quality and availability of healthcare to plummet, disastrously given the government a tool to erode personal privacy, created a magnet that will continue to cause illegal aliens to stream across our boarder, installed abortion as a permanent sacrament in this nation, and ensured sweet fodder for professional politicians to enjoy until the collapse of the nation.

In the short term, he and his party will get their political come-uppens. In the longer term, the genie cannot be put back into the bottle: no group of elected parasites, no matter what their professed political stripe, will ever vote the power and money this bill provides away.

History will record Obama as the little man who presided over the death of a once great nation and this Congress as the weak dolts that let him do it.

Posted by: pine | April 5, 2010 10:43 AM | Report abuse

This may be the best PERFECT Example that Obama is really a spineless fool afraid to actually Face FACTS... he is avoiding every question about his actions,policies and plans..who can he blame for his inability to be honest?.. Either this or the ones who pull his strings and write his speeches are in Total control over the Majik Messiah! So who are they... Axelrod? Summers? Soros? Jeremiah? Ayers?? cerainly not the poor GIBBS!

Posted by: redhawk2 | April 5, 2010 10:42 AM | Report abuse

This may be the best PERFECT Example that Obama is really aspineless fool afraid to actually Face FACTS... he is avoiding Every question about his actions,policies and plans.... Eithjer this or the ones who pull his strings and write his speeches are in Total control over the Majik Messiah! So who are they... Axelrod? Summers? Soros? Jeremiah? Ayers?? cerainly not the poor GIBBS!

Posted by: redhawk2 | April 5, 2010 10:41 AM | Report abuse

What the idiot was trying to say was no, you are not over-taxed and yes, it was a good idea b/c I needed to save my presidency.
I think every person who was stupid enougn to vote for these idiot bufoons should be required to be on their healthcare plan.

Posted by: civilemik | April 5, 2010 10:37 AM | Report abuse

When there are many words, transgression is unavoidable, But he who restrains his lips is wise. Proverbs 10:19

Posted by: apgar1010 | April 5, 2010 10:36 AM | Report abuse

Someone should've pulled the plug on the teleprompters after two minutes...

Posted by: DenofYork | April 5, 2010 10:29 AM | Report abuse

He has to talk a lot so you don't understand everything coming out his mouth is a lie.
He may as well say blah, blah, blah.

Posted by: BubbaT | April 5, 2010 10:27 AM | Report abuse

Just remember folks... if you really want the truth about the pros and cons about the new health care bill that's now law, WE must do the research.
Do you really think Obamba is going to highlight all the tax increases and reduced services that will be needed to pay for it? Think not. Something else to consider - your personal medical info will no longer be just between you and your doctors. It will eventually be stored in a national data base. Yes of course Obama or any person supporting his agenda will say it will be kept strictly confidential. But think again. Remember we were told by the government that our social security numbers were never going to be used for ID purposes. That's about all it's now used for starting with your taxes, banking info, medical, etc. Just think about how many more people will now have access to our personal medical information. Info that can be accessed by non - medical personal. It is more likely then not that we will never know that person who can get access to our info. And if it can be used for other than medical purposes, to disqualfy someone competiting for a position it will be available to those with the right contacts. And for what? Because the government says it's ok it will be protected. Think not.

Posted by: aj12364 | April 5, 2010 10:24 AM | Report abuse

A fool is known by his many words!

Posted by: mitchnukem | April 5, 2010 10:23 AM | Report abuse

I'm suprized that he didn't call in his staff to investigate her background and mount a character assasination attack as an answer... Maybe the new procedure is "When confronted with the truth, bore them to death".... I didn't care much for him, but I'm really starting to miss "W"....

Posted by: grumpyoldb | April 5, 2010 10:23 AM | Report abuse

Honesty generally works with most people. The problem the President and Congress is having is that they want to avoid talking about the negatives in this program. This is an excellent example of ignoring a woman's question and giving your own speech on what you want to talk about. Why not just address the issues? This will cost the average citizen a lot of $$$$$. Address the issue.

Posted by: Stopthemplease | April 5, 2010 10:20 AM | Report abuse

john__doe wrote:
Repukes are pathetic..

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Maybe we should vote Bush out of office. Oh wait, we did. And the new guy is even worse.

Posted by: lug21 | April 5, 2010 10:17 AM | Report abuse

One word describes Obama's answer. CIRCUMLOCUTION.

Used frequently along with talking over others in talk show formats.

O's an accomplished, intentional circumlocutor.

Posted by: init4selves | April 5, 2010 10:15 AM | Report abuse

The short answer:

Your government is going to bleed you, until you. stop. them.

America Held Hostage: Day 441

Posted by: stevem1 | April 5, 2010 10:14 AM | Report abuse

This radical Marxist racist dictator wannabe is about ready to explode. Americans are waking up quickly (those idiots that were either fooled by the media's propaganda campaign and didn't see the hidden truths about Obama and those stupid liberals that voted because of white guilt). Even some middle and upper class black folks have now seen the light. America cannot survive another 3 years of this evil thug. Impeach Obama NOW!

Posted by: ricardo4max | April 5, 2010 10:10 AM | Report abuse

'

President Obama: We want to make sure all Americans have some type of health insurance.

Nancy Pelosi: We've done it. All Americans are now covered.

Republicans: NO NO NO NO! Repeal it! IMPEACH!!! God Bless the right wing and NO ONE ELSE!!!"""

For your information congress exempted themselves and many of their aids from the health care bill that was passed. Maybe you should do your homework before making comments. If you think you have the same health care as Princess Nancy I have a bridge I want to sell you.....

Posted by: Checkthefacts1 | April 5, 2010 10:09 AM | Report abuse

He probably recorded this speech so he can listen to it over and over again on his IPOD/MP3..and will probably send a copy to the Queen of England so she can add it to her collection of Him speaking....

Posted by: kleigh1213 | April 5, 2010 10:04 AM | Report abuse

Real journalism does not pick sides. his answer was thorough and over your head it seems...as it was to most republicans. You guys will never understand this President or his thoughts. You have blinders on and are just too uneducated it seems to comprehend him or his goals for America...

Posted by: terrywallace1 | April 5, 2010 10:04 AM | Report abuse

He probably recorded this speech so he can listen to it over and over again on his IPOD/MP3..and will probably send a copy to the Queen of England so she can add it to her collection of Him speaking....

Posted by: kleigh1213 | April 5, 2010 10:03 AM | Report abuse

LIARS tend to Ramble on and on and on..and never answer any questions...

Ramble ramble ramble is all weve heard out of this guys mouth.

Ever notice how when someone is not truthful, they tend to try to talk themselves out of it.. One simple question like this lady asked, should have been answered in probably 2 sentences. It's already been proven, that obmamamama lies ... and lives in his own fantasy world.

Posted by: kleigh1213 | April 5, 2010 10:01 AM | Report abuse

Bush spending up to 5 times more than Clinton
http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=51342

Cost of Iraq (715 billion and still counting)
http://costofwar.com/

Repukes don't mind dancing, but when it's the other side stuck covering the bill, they all wine like the little girls they are...

Blow the arms and legs off the kids in Iraq, repukes think is a good idea. Help parents in the US deal with health care for their kids, screw them.

Repukes are pathetic..

Posted by: john__doe | April 5, 2010 9:59 AM | Report abuse

I can't recall a president in my lifetime who talks so much and yet says nothing of substance.

Posted by: LoneStar4 | April 5, 2010 9:59 AM | Report abuse


The pathetic libs on here defending their messiah are obviously in shock that their left wing rag “The Washington Post” would publish an article that didn’t speak of their hero in worshipful terms.

Instead of celebrating Easter, they prefer to worship a mentally ill Muslim.

Tragic.

Posted by: bill7021 | April 5, 2010 9:58 AM | Report abuse

Small wonder. The piece of crap is so in love with himself he can't stop listening to himself bray.

If he's so "intelligent" why doesn't the teleprompter queen come off his college transcripts? Hell, even riding affirmative action all his life, he has to hide his grades?

Hey, dummy! Ain't nobody trippin. Everybody know C's get degrees too.

Posted by: IllinoisJoe | April 5, 2010 9:57 AM | Report abuse

Have we ever had a president who can talk so much, yet say so little?

Posted by: LoneStar4 | April 5, 2010 9:56 AM | Report abuse

Fangor, My apologies. My comment should have been directed to kevincondor. I hadn't read all of the comments and from your comment, I didn't realize that you were responding to him. Good points!

(Excuse me while I remove my foot from my mouth.)

Posted by: drawlr | April 5, 2010 9:51 AM | Report abuse

Why should we trust the government with an increased role in healthcare when Medicare is a giant unfunded liability rife with waste and fraud?

Medicare & Medicare, S-chip and VA are subsidized healthcare implemented as a solution to the uninsured, and all these programs are mismanaged, deny a higher percentage of claims, and on verge of bankruptcy. These programs not only cost more than originally planned, they are gamed to win more votes. And this health bill is modeled after these failed programs.

This bill will cost trillions of dollars, will raise insurance costs, and decrease choice as more doctors group coverages like Medicare. It imposes an unconstitutional heath insurance mandate, and it brings with it a host of new tax increases, so much for our economic rebound.

This multi-trillion dollar boondoggle is not about health, lowing cost or coverage, but control. And that’s why President Obama can’t simply answer the question.

Posted by: ILMom | April 5, 2010 9:49 AM | Report abuse

Hey, Fangorn! Guess what else those guys have in common - they apparently didn't NEED to graduate from college, which is something they share with the likes of Bill Gates (although he did eventually receive an honorary degree). Graduating from college don't necessarily mean squat. There are plenty of college grads out there managing a McDonalds or otherwise working "beneath" their supposed merits, and plenty of high school grads living on easy street.

The next time you think you have something to say, you might first remove your feet from your mouth from that last time you made an utterance.

Posted by: drawlr | April 5, 2010 9:44 AM | Report abuse

kevin- obama would not have been a college graduate nor an attorney had it not been for affirmative action. He is proof that affirmative action is a joke.

Posted by: west2 | April 5, 2010 9:39 AM | Report abuse

My quess is that the OBummer was trying to DAZZLE her with BullChit! BTW did she FAINT from boredom?

Posted by: harpotoo | April 5, 2010 9:37 AM | Report abuse

Earth to Kevin. Drudge didn't write this story; Anne E. Kornblut did. She's not making it up.

Posted by: Eric12345 | April 5, 2010 9:31 AM | Report abuse

This evil, mentally unstable individual who hates America has access to all of our national secrets, is in charge of the most powerful military in the world, and sits with his skinny finger on the nuclear trigger.

Coward that he is, he would not use this power against America's enemies, but could easily turn against America's allies.

He must be marginalized in the November elections and voted out in 2012.

Posted by: bill7021 | April 5, 2010 9:27 AM | Report abuse

"WELCOME MOUTH-BREATHING DRUDGETARDS!

Q: What do Drudge, Limbaugh, Hannity, and Beck all have in common?

A: None of them could even graduate from college.

Yet you trust Drudge to control your information about economics and tax policy.

Think for yourselves Drudgetards!"

Funny isn't it that in spite of this enormous disadvantage they are all multi-millionaires with national name recognition and followings. Tow of them are published authors. They actually influence the ebb and flow of national thought.

What's your claim to fame? Park cars, operate a lemonade stand, what?

Posted by: Fangorn | April 5, 2010 9:23 AM | Report abuse

You can't expect him to be coherent without a teleprompter.

Posted by: rjr1 | April 5, 2010 9:16 AM | Report abuse

I think the best way to describe Barack Obama, is to think of Nero.

So while Rome burns down around him, Obama is obsessed with healthcare.


Nothing can penetrate the cobwebs in his mind, as he lives, breathes and dreams of healthcare which he inherited from his loon of a mother.

Posted by: LogicalSC | April 5, 2010 9:13 AM | Report abuse

Looks like the Obamafia has implemeted their "paid posters" plan to flood the internet blogs.

They said the Clintons lied with such ease, but they were pikers compared to Barry O. I understand he can't help himself. It's almost as if certain questions flip a switch causing him to start playing old tapes that worked in the past.

Barry you lie! STFU!!

Posted by: Jack64 | April 5, 2010 9:11 AM | Report abuse

Does anyone know what percentage of the colonists income was taxed by the King of England????????

ONE PERCENT, ONE PERCENT, ONE PERCENT.
Adding up all of the taxes that this cowboy pays, federal, fica, state, sales tax, property tax, real estate tax. It totals approximately 40% of my income.
WTF

Posted by: dspreadinaolcom | April 5, 2010 8:55 AM | Report abuse

The bald face reality is that Barack Obama is a pathologial liar with mental issues.

Nothing new as Obama has lied his entire life about nearly aspect of it. From his books, to his father, to his beliefs, to his supposed work history, the man is simply unable to tell anything but a fantasy.

It has been well concealed by the Democrat lackeys in the MSM who so want their leftist wet dream, but history will wonder at how a such a mentally ill man was promoted to the Office of the Presidency.

How many of even the supposed journalists at the Post are even aware that Obama was an actual "community organizer" for only 2 1/2 years over 20 years ago before quiting. None, I bet, yet they so loved the marxist messiah that they willing promoted him as a community organizer toiling away for years for the downtrodden. Another lie.

Posted by: LogicalSC | April 5, 2010 8:50 AM | Report abuse

President Obama: We want to make sure all Americans have some type of health insurance.

Nancy Pelosi: We've done it. All Americans are now covered.

Republicans: NO NO NO NO! Repeal it! IMPEACH!!! God Bless the right wing and NO ONE ELSE!!!

Posted by: WhenRightiesFailAmericaWins | April 5, 2010 8:47 AM | Report abuse

So can we get this regime's leader to please answer the question about high taxes and their toll on American people?

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Posted by: fdsuaifdajk | April 5, 2010 8:41 AM | Report abuse

Where is kevincondor0713 this morning?

Oh... never mind. It's Monday and he had to leave to catch the little short school bus.

And now for the Pledge of Allegiance.
"Barrack Hussein Obama... mmmm mmmm mmmm!"

Enjoy lunch Kev. I hear they are having your favorite... Beanie Weenies.

Posted by: Duuuuh | April 5, 2010 8:28 AM | Report abuse

WMD's - Hoo-ra
Health Care - Fuk-yu

Got to love the simpleton mentality from the repukes...

Posted by: john__doe | April 5, 2010 8:28 AM | Report abuse

Hey kevincondor0713 glad to see you spent your Easter like you do most days on the computer in your mother’s basemen in your underwear! Just like most Obomie koolade drinkers. I’ll type really slow so you can understand. Now let me educate your small liberal (a redundancy) mind here 1) Drudge report is basically an on line newspaper that (like Fox) reports both liberal but most conservative news stories you know all the stuff the LAMEstream biased partisan left wing FAILING media doesn’t report.2) Beck Hannity & Limbaugh all attended college they dropped out for various reason (financial ect) and I can tell you having worked at a university myself for 15+ years 90% of the Profs would be institutionalized, along with about 20% of the "students" if not for the university college education system. Most Profs are educated Idiots (much like yourself0 who can tell you all the important things in the world like the atomic weight of peanut butter but get hit by a car because they don’t know to look both ways before crossing the street.
Now I’ll explain it to you so you can understand if you have to go on for 17 minutes for a simple You and obomie are typical far left elitists who don’t think us peeon peasants are smart enough to understand such high intellect as you & One Big A$$ Mistake America

Posted by: gladnot2bliberal | April 5, 2010 8:07 AM | Report abuse

50 million uninsured Americans? Obama must be projecting into the future, after the Dems have granted amnesty to illegal aliens.

Keep talking, Obama! (Psst - I think your audience is sneaking out the back door to the tea party rally across the street.)

Posted by: biancaneve | April 5, 2010 7:50 AM | Report abuse

"You are watching the implosion of your President before your very ears and eyes.It is sad indeed to see such an intelligent man
consumed by a single passion. If this man is not impeached he will surely destroy himself and the United States as well. No President in recent history has so polarized this great country. Not even Bush was capable of such division."

. . . and it was a wasted effort - the odds that Congress will pass any of its appropriation bills are slim to none. Then it will be voted out - that is what happens when you do not make sure you make massive changes in a bipartisan way.

Posted by: deegeejay | April 5, 2010 7:47 AM | Report abuse

insurance is nice, but it doesn't address the real issue. rising health care cost. If we pay for it ourselves or through taxes, the issue will still strike us a blow financially. A blow that I would rather pay for myself and not through taxes.

Posted by: kryss187 | April 5, 2010 7:31 AM | Report abuse

You are watching the implosion of your President before your very ears and eyes.It is sad indeed to see such an intelligent man
consumed by a single passion. If this man is not impeached he will surely destroy himself and the United States as well. No President in recent history has so polarized this great country. Not even Bush was capable of such division.

Posted by: kondor26 | April 5, 2010 7:29 AM | Report abuse

Where oh where is Bret Baier when you need him?

Posted by: myviewat60 | April 5, 2010 7:13 AM | Report abuse

You see kids, we need high taxes to pay for all of our community needs, like trips to Copenhagen, cash for failed banks, and travel expenses when I go to Hollywood.

Your Dad,
Barry


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7sllmo73U2A

Posted by: yesnut1 | April 5, 2010 7:06 AM | Report abuse

2012 can't get here fast enough. Obama is the worst President in U.S. history.

Posted by: johnfchick1 | April 5, 2010 6:49 AM | Report abuse

For most liberals the details of Obamacare don't matter because they just wanna drink kool-aid and keep that special thrill running up their leg with their Van Jones green jobs, Pocket Obama!

Chris Matthews said, "nothing matters when I'm drinking the kool-aid, watching Obama to the buzz of my Van Jones green jobs Pocket Obama! Not only do I feel that special thrill watching Obama, I get to have that special thrill running up my leg with my Pocket Obama, too! WOW! I'm in liberal Utopia!

Be like Chris Matthews and get your Van Jones certified green jobs, Pocket Obama today at the special, limited time offer, of $787 billion ... er ... $1 trillion ... er ... $1.2 trillion .. but at any price it a steal. For the first ten callers ordering their Pocket Obama you will get to listen to Obama answer a question for 4 hours!

"Get your Pocket Obama today ... then, bend over, receive your Obama blessing as you get Obama-sodomized!"

For a limited time, when you purchase your "Pocket Obama," the device Chris Matthews said ran thrills up his leg, we will thrown in the Pocket Obama, $2.5 trillion, "Keep Me In the Dark Healthcare Package," written by feral democrats at no extra charge. At check out just say, "Sucker Joe Public and his great-grandkids are paying the bill."

Posted by: larry22 | April 5, 2010 5:23 AM | Report abuse

Obungle spoke for 17 minutes because he was mesmerized by his masterful use of the English language and the thrilling sound of his baritone voice. He gets the same thrill running up his leg as Chris Matthews when he speaks.

Posted by: rbpjlh5 | April 5, 2010 4:36 AM | Report abuse

Can't wait to see how arrogant the democrats are when they come back into session and try to pass the next America destroying bill. Hopefully we see some cracks in their armor and some dems jump ship to the side of liberty.
I swear, if Obama keeps flying around making campaign speeches instead of being president of our nation, I'll start handing out fliers to senior centers showing what a disaster he is.

Posted by: bboodry | April 5, 2010 4:16 AM | Report abuse

Can't waitto see how arrogant the democrats are when they come back into session and try to pass the next America destroying bill. Hopefully we see some cracks in their armour and some dems jump shipto the side of liberty.
I swear, if Obama keeps flying around making campaign speeches instead of being president of our nation, I'll start handing out fliers to senior centers showing what a disaster he is.

Posted by: bboodry | April 5, 2010 4:14 AM | Report abuse

kevincondor is a purist liberal. Say the stupidest thing you can and repeat it over and over because his case can't stand.
Dumb-ass

Posted by: Rick67 | April 5, 2010 3:59 AM | Report abuse

It took him 17 minutes because he has to try to remember the propaganda lines because this bill is an economy killer. If he gets to speaking "off the cuff" he is a blithering idiot. He needs to get back to the campaign style where he just picks the people for the crowd and who to call on and what they will ask.

Posted by: Tarmangani | April 5, 2010 3:40 AM | Report abuse

Obu Man's answer showed his intent, to avoid the truth.

Posted by: revap | April 5, 2010 3:18 AM | Report abuse

You know, I forgot the point the writer of this article trying to make - the author so thoroughly bludgeoned me with it, I may have lost my short-term memory.

Oh yeah, I remember - weird, overlong speech from the President (a sign that's he's coming unhinged?)

A few points:

A) Many Americans are misinformed about how high their taxes really are (compared to other developed countries, compared to past decades, in relation to the services they receive, etc.) and how their tax dollars are actually spent (they believe we spend many times more than we do on aid to foreign countries, programs for the poor, etc.). This is undoubtedly a sore point for a politician like Obabma, who needs to sell reality-based decisions a woefully ill-informed mob. Maybe the president just felt that the actual facts should be heard.

B) So he was long-winded - was he on the Tonight Show? Was he supposed to keep 'em laughing and get their toes a-tapping? I'm sure the audience was pleased to have a president capable of speaking about policy for more than 30 seconds at a time.

c) Speaking of Bush, did the author ever write articles criticizing his legendarily incompetent and graceless speaking style? Did she describe audience members (hand picked, don't forget) cringing in embarrassment at his glaring ignorance and boorishness?

Here's what I think - we should all point our fingers at the author of this article, Anne E. Kornblut, and blow her a raspberry.

Consider: Ms. Kornblut is a member of the very same press corp that has failed to inform the public of the most basic facts at the core of the major debates of the day (and fails to refute the endless stream of lies coming out of the right-wing media); she, like most in the media, somehow views this smart, articulate, well-intentioned president as an easier target than the entitled, unqualified patsy of a president that preceded him; and, when there's real news out there NOT getting reported, she had the nerve to make her own boredom the subject of an entire article on the Washington Post's website.

See, Ms. Kornblut? I had more to say about the President's speech than you did, and I didn't even see it! Maybe you do need to find a new line of work.

Posted by: Glortok | April 5, 2010 2:38 AM | Report abuse

And, oh yeah, the taxes going up to pay for all this?

Posted by: security2 | April 5, 2010 2:26 AM | Report abuse

How dare thy peasant woman challenge our King! Strike her down with daggers of words (and a campaign speech)...

Ugh...and the Obama zombies- still hang on to his words like fleas on a dirty junkyard dog.

By the way, debating with, expressing anger, disagreeing, and challenging our President doesn't make one racist or a bigot. But attempts to silence and intimidate people using the "your a bunch of racists" routine is a play right out of the fascist playbook.

In case some of you didn't get the memo- that one doesn't work on us anymore. The words racist and bigot don't apply or have any meaning anymore...because we don't think like liberals do (who do in fact have actual racist tendencies). Next...

Posted by: SpiderBabe | April 5, 2010 2:09 AM | Report abuse

To Writer "Mouth Breathing Drudgetards".

Boy you sound like that ignoramus Democratic Senator from Georgia goes by the name of Hank
Johnson who claims that Guam will tip over if more Marines are based there. He like O'bummer
is an attorney, how he got a law degree beats me, but I digress. There have been more brilliant
men within America who were self made, never graduated.You (Kevin Condorf)wrote your idiotic
nonsense on a computer so I assume it was either a Mac, or a Dell the inventors/makers of which
never graduated. Microsoft i.e. Mr Gates he too never graduated.
Did O'bummer answer the question NO !!! 17 minutes of waffling does not constitute an answer
However Beck,Limbaugh,Hannity whom you obviously dislike have the ability to talk about
subjects with clarity and discuss the subject. So what if they do not have degrees, they have the
ability to attempt to clarify situations and logically. Incidentally their listenrship is about 34 million
.
What is O'bummers listnership I should imagine a whole stack of sheeple who haven't a clue now
as to what they voted for, they were probably enlisted by the clods at Acorn. Finally I assume you
must have swallowed everything expressed in http://www.youtube./watch?v=7sllmo73U2A

Rhodey

Posted by: Rhodey | April 5, 2010 1:34 AM | Report abuse

KevinCondor: The most convincing evidence that you have nothing intelligent to say and no analysis of your own is when you resort to name calling. Most people who agree with Drudge Limbaugh Beck and the rest have probably thought through things a lot more than you have. The fact is we have in the White House right now the most radically anti-business pro-big government liberal in the history of this nation. That is cause for alarm. If the economy bounces back in the midst of Obama's administration it is only because it takes more than a few body blows to take it down. But if we continue down Obama's socialist path we will finally succeed in killing the goose that laid the golden egg.


kevincondor0713 said the following:

WELCOME MOUTH-BREATHING DRUDGETARDS!

Q: What do Drudge, Limbaugh, Hannity, and Beck all have in common?
A: None of them could even graduate from college.
Yet you trust Drudge to control your information about economics and tax policy.
Think for yourselves Drudgetards!

Posted by: fogghornn | April 5, 2010 1:04 AM | Report abuse

Seriously, Kevin, you have been reposting this irrelevant comment every 5 minutes for over 24 hours. You've even changed capitalization and added small chunks of content here and there. This confirms that you really are just sitting at your computer, and you're not some enterprising individual who figured out how to write a script to make yourself more efficient.

I guess your only job is to "vote yourself generous gifts from the public treasury."

Posted by: thaiguy78 | April 5, 2010 1:02 AM | Report abuse

Anne - can we get some serious, substantive reporting instead of your trivial commentary about style? Sounds like his response was over your head.

Posted by: mm14 | April 5, 2010 12:31 AM | Report abuse

One way to avoid answering a question is to filibuster. Pres. Obama is the master of this tactic, which is why Bret Baier had to relentlessly interrupt him during his interview.

Too bad getting an honest answer from a politician is impossible, nowadays. Sure, politicians are trained in their cribs to stay on message at all times, but doing so only produces bizarre results when the message offends reality. Adding insult to injury, following our politicians' filibustering, spins and lies, we're invited to consume the worshipful press' accolades lavished on their "intelligence" as demonstrated by the legion of "nuances" they deploy to assault a simple question.

Are we over-taxed? Yes. Will Pres. Obama lower taxes? No. Has he raised taxes on the very people he promised not to raise taxes on? Yes. Will he do so again? Yes. Does he care what we taxpayers think about taxes or his broken promises? Not beyond what we're prepared to do about these issues at the ballot box.

That's the real story, here, so what are going to do about it?

Posted by: Lavaux | April 5, 2010 12:26 AM | Report abuse

Hey Kevin:

What does college dropout have to do with anything: Bill Gates (Microsoft), Steve Jobs (Apple) and Al Gore are all dropouts. Does that make them "tards."
You are an idiot, regardless of YOUR education.

Posted by: thurstoniii58 | April 5, 2010 12:22 AM | Report abuse

"Number one is that we are the only -- we have been, up until last week, the only advanced country that allows 50 million of its citizens to not have any health insurance."

How many "advanced" countries have 50 million citizens? How many "advanced" countries are also as complex as the United State, for example I live in New York City where in just one borough, Queens, more than 130 languages are spoken. How many countries are made up of 50 states ranging size from Alaska to Rhode Island? I won't go on, but I hope I've made my point, which is that I wish politician in both parties would stop treating the American people as idiots.

The President can be very persuasive, but he hasn't convinced me that the health plan as conceived and will work as planned.
Why am I not convinced, I just received a three page tax form that came with 12 pages of instruction. Certainly with all their practice, the IRS could have figured a way to reduce this number by 1/3, if not by 3/4.

Apropos the health plan, there are elements that are a long time coming, for example portability and the outlawing denial of insurance due to preexisting conditions. Other elements give me pause, such as allowing men and women, up to the age of 26, to remain covered under there parents' plans. Yes, I'm glad poor people will get flu shots, perhaps for the first time in their lives and be able to have annual check ups, although I wish the President explained that most people of these people will receive their health care at clinics, likely found in Walmarts and CVSs and be treated by nurse practitioners, who will probably not know their names.

Posted by: rwordplay | April 4, 2010 11:55 PM | Report abuse

Kevin, I conclude that you are frustrated, at a loss, and have passed beyond the boundary of "deranged" due to the fact that your narcissistic false idol is nothing but a lying, meandering bag of gas with feet of clay.

So sorry.

Have fun drooling over your computer reposting your pitiful little noise all night.

I'm outta here. But you keep at it, Kev. I know you will.

Obama zombie ... must ... keep ... vigil.

Posted by: finsher771 | April 4, 2010 11:50 PM | Report abuse

WELCOME MOUTH-BREATHING DRUDGETARDS!

Q: What do Drudge, Limbaugh, Hannity, and Beck all have in common?

A: None of them could even graduate from college.

Yet you trust Drudge to control your information about economics and tax policy.

Think for yourselves Drudgetards!

Posted by: kevincondor0713 | April 4, 2010 11:41 PM | Report abuse

Sheesh, even Clinton would probably have known enough to mumble "I feel your pain" and move on to the next item.

Welcome, Kev-O. Glad you found true happiness glued to this page all Easter.

Posted by: finsher771 | April 4, 2010 11:38 PM | Report abuse

WELCOME MOUTH-BREATHING DRUDGETARDS!

Q: What do Drudge, Limbaugh, Hannity, and Beck all have in common?

A: None of them could even graduate from college.

Yet you trust Drudge to control your information about economics and tax policy.

Think for yourselves Drudgetards!

Posted by: kevincondor0713 | April 4, 2010 11:33 PM | Report abuse

If Obama and his cohorts in Washington weren't completely and irresponsibly out of control with their bizarro-universe agenda, he could have answered this plainly. Unfortunately, due to the fact that he and the Democrats are way gone, all he could find himself doing was to hem and haw like a ranting goofball.

Imagine if a fiscally responsible, economically savvy president had been up there, here's how it might have gone:

------------------------

Woman in crowd: I am really overtaxed.

President: yes, I intend to work on decreasing the burden on working men and women. These things take time. We need to stabilize the economy and ultimately begin taking decisive steps toward scaling back government. The private sector should have more disposable income; everybody wins when that happens. Eventually, I intend to make it clear to wasteful bureaucrats that The People's Paycheck is not carte blanche for enabling frivolous government spending.

------------------------

Unfortunately, Obama's philosophy is exactly the opposite: the more of your money is in the hands of authoritarian self-serving bureaucratic hacks, the happier this narcissistic freak gets.

Sheesh, even Clinton would probably have known enough to mumble "I feel your pain" and move on to the next item.

Posted by: finsher771 | April 4, 2010 11:25 PM | Report abuse

When i was a kid,i played little leagues and i had to produced my birth certificate to prove iwas under age 13;when i joined the military i had to produced my birth certificate as proof of citizenship;in order to wor for my current employer,everyone must show proof of citiznship via birth certificate,passport or any other officially certified document;however if you're seeking the highest office in the land,none of that is necesary i guess!!

Posted by: jackal4 | April 4, 2010 11:24 PM | Report abuse

WELCOME MOUTH-BREATHING DRUDGETARDS!

Q: What do Drudge, Limbaugh, Hannity, and Beck all have in common?

A: None of them could even graduate from college.

Yet you trust Drudge to control your information about economics and tax policy.

Think for yourselves Drudgetards!

Posted by: kevincondor0713 | April 4, 2010 11:20 PM | Report abuse

“If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it. The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and/or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth is the greatest enemy of the State.”

-Joseph Goebbels, Nazi Propagandist

And I believe that is exactly the position of this administration and it's policies as it pushes to carry out the Cloward-Piven Strategy.

Posted by: 909ray1977 | April 4, 2010 11:15 PM | Report abuse

This would have been a good speech to play Obama Bull Cr*p Bingo... get your Obama Bull Cr*p Bingo Game Cards now!

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Posted by: FRedStatescom | April 4, 2010 11:07 PM | Report abuse

kevincondor0713 says:

"...MOUTH-BREATHING DRUDGETARDS..."

Well, Kev, we all know where YOU breathe from -- let me spell it out for you: it rhymes with gas hole.

Posted by: finsher771 | April 4, 2010 11:04 PM | Report abuse

WELCOME MOUTH-BREATHING DRUDGETARDS!

Q: What do Drudge, Limbaugh, Hannity, and Beck all have in common?

A: None of them could even graduate from college.

Yet you trust Drudge to control your information about economics and tax policy.

Think for yourselves Drudgetards!

Posted by: kevincondor0713 | April 4, 2010 11:02 PM | Report abuse

I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of taking care of them

Posted by: mikemike0221 | April 4, 2010 11:02 PM | Report abuse

"Q: What do Drudge, Limbaugh, Hannity, and Beck all have in common?
A: None of them could even graduate from college."

Nor could Bill Gates. And therefore, what...?

Ad hominems are the first refuge of a Democrat.

Posted by: davidnvh | April 4, 2010 11:02 PM | Report abuse

kevincondor0713 -- what did you do, shackle yourself to your PC so you can copy and paste the same puerile line over and over?

LOL! That's pretty funny. You try to be annoying and you end up giving us a chuckle in spite of yourself.

But like I said earlier: you're fool of crap. All you "offer" to the discourse is an obsession with Limbaugh and Drudge and insipid unoriginal overused name-alteration.

That is literally ALL you can muster up out of the tumultuous seething cesspool that passes as your brain. As evidenced by your copying and pasting the same remark over and over.

What a liberal.

Posted by: finsher771 | April 4, 2010 11:00 PM | Report abuse

WELCOME MOUTH-BREATHING DRUDGETARDS!

Q: What do Drudge, Limbaugh, Hannity, and Beck all have in common?

A: None of them could even graduate from college.

Yet you trust Drudge to control your information about economics and tax policy.

Think for yourselves Drudgetards!

Posted by: kevincondor0713 | April 4, 2010 10:52 PM | Report abuse

It is extemely hard for a liar to give a simple answer. Give the poor guy a break.

Posted by: lilthyme22 | April 4, 2010 10:47 PM | Report abuse

It is extemely hard for a liar to give a simple answer. Give the poor guy a break.

Posted by: lilthyme22 | April 4, 2010 10:46 PM | Report abuse

It is extremely hard for a liar to give a simple response. Give the poor guy a break

Posted by: lilthyme22 | April 4, 2010 10:44 PM | Report abuse

For the poor little ozombie who can't think for himself and keeps reposting--wake up fool. 4 in 10 Tea Party Protesters Are Either Democrats or Independents - From the Hill:

Four in 10 Tea Party members are either Democrats or Independents, according to a new national survey.

The findings provide one of the most detailed portraits to date of the grassroots movement that started last year.

The national breakdown of the Tea Party composition is 57 percent Republican, 28 percent Independent and 13 percent Democratic, according to three national polls by the Winston Group, a Republican-leaning firm that conducted the surveys on behalf of an education advocacy group. Two-thirds of the group call themselves conservative, 26 are moderate and 8 percent say they are liberal.

The Winston Group conducted three national telephone surveys of 1,000 registered voters between December and February. Of those polled, 17 percent – more than 500 people — said they were “part of the Tea Party movement.”

“It’s a good sample size,” said David Winston, the polling firm’s director. “It will certainly give us an initial base to follow where these folks are.”

The group is united around two issues – the economy/jobs and reducing the deficit. They believe that cutting spending is the key to job creation and favor tax cuts as the best way to stimulate the economy. That said 61 percent of Tea Party members believe infrastructure spending creates jobs. Moreover, given the choice Tea Party members favor 63-32 reducing unemployment to 5 percent over balancing the budget.

Posted by: Hugh6 | April 4, 2010 10:42 PM | Report abuse

Is barry X related to hank johnson?

Posted by: liberalsodomy | April 4, 2010 10:39 PM | Report abuse

Cowboy55555, learn the difference between a preamble and an actual enumerated power. "General welfare" is an example of the former, not the latter. Madison addressed this exact point in Federalist 41, if you care to read it.

Posted by: davidnvh | April 4, 2010 10:37 PM | Report abuse

WELCOME MOUTH-BREATHING DRUDGETARDS!

Q: What do Drudge, Limbaugh, Hannity, and Beck all have in common?

A: None of them could even graduate from college.

Yet you trust Drudge to control your information about economics and tax policy.

Think for yourselves Drudgetards!

Posted by: kevincondor0713 | April 4, 2010 10:37 PM | Report abuse

"kevincondor0713"

This idiot POSTS THE SAME RETARDED NOTE OVER AND OVER AGAIN ON EVERY STORY LINKED FROM DRUDGE.
It's brilliant, really impressive and really original stuff. kevincondor0713: you're almost as boring as your god, Obama. You're another of his fluffers.

GOD YOU'RE BORING

Posted by: GregBuls1 | April 4, 2010 10:33 PM | Report abuse

@cowboy555
your right it says general welfare, but do you know what is says before and after that? Promote does not mean create a law! If you want to be literal. Also, that is in the preamble dumbarss. so you are clear:
We the people of the United States, in order to form a more perfect union, establish justice, insure domestic tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general welfare, and secure the blessings of liberty to ourselves and our posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.
here is the webster def of welfare so you can realize how off base u r.
1 : the state of doing well especially in respect to good fortune, happiness, well-being, or prosperity
2 a : aid in the form of money or necessities for those in need b : an agency or program through which such aid is distributed

Posted by: cmcpherson007 | April 4, 2010 10:33 PM | Report abuse

You see, the professor president is sooooo smart it just takes time for him to really really really explain how higher taxes are better for us.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7sllmo73U2A

Posted by: yesnut1 | April 4, 2010 10:28 PM | Report abuse

To kevincondor :::
"WELCOME MOUTH-BREATHING DRUDGETARDS!

Q: What do Drudge, Limbaugh, Hannity, and Beck all have in common?

A: None of them could even graduate from college.

Yet you trust Drudge to control your information about economics and tax policy."


Psssst, Kevin.

George Washington wasn't a college grad either. He was a home-schooled farmer.

John Dickinson, Richard Bassett, Jacob Broom, James McHenry, Daniel of St. Thomas Jenifer, William Blount and some others who signed the Constitution were not college grads..

But Tax dodgers Charlie Rangel and Kevin Geithner are a college grads...

Posted by: Cowboy55555 | April 4, 2010 10:27 PM | Report abuse

U.S. postal service:bankrupt;medicare:bankrupt;medicaid:bankrupt;Amtrack:bankrupt;social security:bankrupt;Fannie & Freddie:caos;VA hospitals:overburden;DMV'S:a joke;Homeland security:misguided;and now these bozos want to take over the whole coutry's health care system?,what do you think the net result would be given the government's "stellar" track record?

Posted by: jackal4 | April 4, 2010 10:26 PM | Report abuse

This is completely like Obama....He doesn't want to really answer the question or have a follow up...so he filibusters the answers to run out the clock.....Read: The Tea Party and Blacks....at.....
http://cooperscopy.blogspot.com/

Posted by: ronsuev | April 4, 2010 10:24 PM | Report abuse

WELCOME MOUTH-BREATHING DRUDGETARDS!

Q: What do Drudge, Limbaugh, Hannity, and Beck all have in common?

A: None of them could even graduate from college.

Yet you trust Drudge to control your information about economics and tax policy.

Think for yourselves Drudgetards!

Posted by: kevincondor0713 | April 4, 2010 10:12 PM | Report abuse

@squalicum the self described dumblibtard- what you dont realize is that the heart transplant will now be performed by the cook at the restaurant you work at. Now instead of pharma companies or doctors or hospitals having money to do research on better health solutions, that money will go to operational costs. Your true benefits under this bill dont go into affect until 2014 but yet more than 20 high volume employment companies like verizon and att will be hit with close to a billion dollars in fees associated to the bill and have stated they will have to make drastict personnel cuts and changes in their benefits. Remember its cheaper with Uncle sam so do you think they will pay the cheaper penalty? hmmm
The only reason "uncle george" inacted the give away was because of democratic pressure. Any true republican or conserative knows that bush was a dem in sheeps clothing. You probably complained about the additional tax rebate you received too... Your white and Im black, and can tell you I didnt vote for Obama. You are the bigot here sir... claiming you are disgusted by your white counterparts. Even MLK neice didnt vote for Obama... So like all liberals, you have talking points but no facts. As a black man I have worked hard just like any other person to be afluent and successful so now I can say that "THE MAN" is black and he is robbing me. I call this black on black crime!

Posted by: cmcpherson007 | April 4, 2010 10:11 PM | Report abuse

There was just a very large (7.2 magnitude) earthquake in Northern Baha California felth throughout much of Southern California. I just heard it was not San Andreas Fault... The White House just announced it was Bush's Fault!
http://www.Megatudes.com - The Anti Obama SuperStore!

Posted by: FRedStatescom | April 4, 2010 10:11 PM | Report abuse

The wheels are starting to come off the Obama bus. I need to go pop some corn and sit back and enjoy the show. I love watching an arrogant politician like Obama be made to answer for trying to turn this country into his socialist banana republic.

Posted by: MikeJ9116 | April 4, 2010 10:09 PM | Report abuse

Thats really bizarre cowboy5555, as i pointed out to quinie, its GENERAL WELFARE not TOTAL WELFARE (which is how you are interpreting it). And if thats what general welfare means WHY DIDNT THE FIRST HUNDRED OR SO CONGRESSES GET AROUND TO PASSING IT????????? because in case you missed it, they had doctors back then too. You think they maybe just forgot to do GOVT health care because they were too busy?

Posted by: HughLai | April 4, 2010 10:09 PM | Report abuse

Kevincondor is apparently a pole smoking gheytard of immense intellect when he can infer that 3 of the biggest names in media all made it to the top in this country even without going to college. I'm sure condor is a huge success living in his Mom's basement slinging hash at the people who are going to vote his party out of existence in November. Wipe your chin Kevtard, the White House has enough drones without you gibbering.

Posted by: RedRuffansore | April 4, 2010 10:07 PM | Report abuse

OK, the reason we are listening to this Massive Empty Suit is because John McCain didn't have the political killer instinct to DEFEAT him. Thanks for NOTHING Johnny, please retire and spare us more of the same in the US Senate. Could someone, anyone please for the sake of America, put this Dictator in his place? God Help Us.

Posted by: dennisl591 | April 4, 2010 10:06 PM | Report abuse

Hey COWBOY5555555, since when does "promote the general Welfare" become "administer the general Welfare" ??

Posted by: bboodry | April 4, 2010 10:04 PM | Report abuse

When the Community Organizer's Gestapo come for my gun they will only get the ammo.

Posted by: Garland1 | April 4, 2010 10:03 PM | Report abuse

He is risen!

No no no... not Obama, you silly disciples.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7sllmo73U2A

Posted by: yesnut1 | April 4, 2010 10:02 PM | Report abuse

WELCOME MOUTH-BREATHING DRUDGETARDS!

Q: What do Drudge, Limbaugh, Hannity, and Beck all have in common?

A: None of them could even graduate from college.

Yet you trust Drudge to control your information about economics and tax policy.

Think for yourselves Drudgetards!

Posted by: kevincondor0713 | April 4, 2010 9:59 PM | Report abuse

To treetopflyer :::
"Yeah, it does state that clearly. So clearly, in fact, that they put the words "promote the general Welfare" in big letters in the preamble of the Constitution so you'd make sure not to miss them. That is what this health care legislation does, it promotes the general welfare. Oops, now the framers of the Constitution are Socialists, too.

You can't pick and choose the parts of the Constitution you do and don't like, it's a package deal. "

LOL! You mean like the 10th Amendment?

Posted by: Cowboy55555 | April 4, 2010 9:59 PM | Report abuse

kevincandor: You should refrain from calling other people any type of "tard" given the fact that you're too dense to understand that Drudge simply posts links to other articles.

Posted by: PinkElephant | April 4, 2010 9:57 PM | Report abuse

WELCOME MOUTH-BREATHING DRUDGETARDS!

Q: What do Drudge, Limbaugh, Hannity, and Beck all have in common?

A: None of them could even graduate from college.

Yet you trust Drudge to control your information about economics and tax policy.

Think for yourselves Drudgetards!

Posted by: kevincondor0713 | April 4, 2010 9:57 PM | Report abuse

Praetorian-guard LOL all the way to the bank, that was so funny, about the respitory difficulties. But i hate to point out you werent too politically correct, they are more commonly refered to these days as 'upright walking organic carbon polluters'.

Posted by: HughLai | April 4, 2010 9:55 PM | Report abuse

Never in my life did I imagine we would face what this freaking negro represents in America. I know WHO to blame and am really just biding my time waiting for the collapse and the civil war.

Posted by: liberalsodomy | April 4, 2010 9:53 PM | Report abuse

WELCOME MOUTH-BREATHING DRUDGETARDS!

Q: What do Drudge, Limbaugh, Hannity, and Beck all have in common?

A: None of them could even graduate from college.

Yet you trust Drudge to control your information about economics and tax policy.

Think for yourselves Drudgetards!

Posted by: kevincondor0713 | April 4, 2010 9:53 PM | Report abuse

kevincondor0713 is probably the psuedo name for the author of the article, to diffuse and obsfuscate the crux of the whole matter, which is that this country is on the verge of a voter revolt at the ballot box.

A shame they allow spam here. Something tells me tho, if it were SPAM that was pro conservative or tea party, it would be taken down. Maybe someone should SPAM a pro Sarah Palin post and test my theory, plus nothing seems to upset liberals more than her

Posted by: HughLai | April 4, 2010 9:50 PM | Report abuse

Ten dollars say that kevincondor0713 works for "Organizing For America" now that he's lost his job at ACORN.

Posted by: RomeoHotel | April 4, 2010 9:50 PM | Report abuse

I'm assuming that kevincondor0713 is saying that being a college graduate is what's really important in the US, not the Constitution's free speech, freedom of religion, etc. If kevincondor0713 is an example of being a college graduate, I'm really glad that I never went to college ...... apparently it makes you a drooling idiot of a liberal that doesn't know how to make more than one post .... just recycle the same one over and over!

Posted by: mizpa | April 4, 2010 9:50 PM | Report abuse

I'm assuming that kevincondor0713 is saying that being a college graduate is what's really important in the US, not the Constitution's free speech, freedom of religion, etc. If kevincondor0713 is an example of being a college graduate, I'm really glad that I never went to college ...... apparently it makes you a drooling idiot of a liberal that doesn't know how to make more than one post .... just recycle the same one over and over!

Posted by: mizpa | April 4, 2010 9:48 PM | Report abuse

For a dumb libtard I sure have struck a cord in the minds of the uptight rightist, or racists.
I guess it’s hard to accept the flaws your parents have instilled in your being.
I also suppose opening up the oil fields is a liberal move. Keeping Mr. Geithner around is also a liberal plot. I personally would have rather sent him on a vacation in the nearest federal prison along with several of his banking buddies, but no one talks about that. Remember, Uncle George started the money giveaway program. Our liberal president just continued the money giveaway.
Remember the deregulation that has caused this large damn mess called recession was the idea of our last four presidents and congress. Oh yea Clinton did his share too.
You have a short memory, is it because you are too young or just too old, in need of some Alzheimer’s meds.
Yes I have a job and a home and I am a white guy that is disgusted with some of my peers. Half of you only have enough cash to ride out a short illness. The loss of income or job would cause you to loose your healthcare insurance. But you will whine how socialistic not letting the insurance companies cut you off is. How un-American it is to not let insurance companies say they won’t insure you if you have a pre-existing condition. How now the government is going to cut granny off with some death panel. Get a grip the insurance companies are still in control and will be for a long time to come and when granny is old and frail they are not going to allow the hart transplant operation. The government won’t have a damn thing to say about it.

Posted by: squalicum | April 4, 2010 9:47 PM | Report abuse

WELCOME MOUTH-BREATHING DRUDGETARDS!

Q: What do Drudge, Limbaugh, Hannity, and Beck all have in common?

A: None of them could even graduate from college.

Yet you trust Drudge to control your information about economics and tax policy.

Think for yourselves Drudgetards!

Posted by: kevincondor0713 | April 4, 2010 9:44 PM | Report abuse

@quinned who wrote to Jackal14
Can you be more of an Communist. If i work hard and get a loan to go to school so that I can make 10K a month then its ok for you to take that money from me. So that means that nobody in America has the right to be prosperous or successful unless it is by your or your daddy obamas classification. Just like all the people in the hood, get your prioritys straight. Before getting that plasma tv, cell phone, latest fashionable wear, etc... why dont you take that money and go to the doctor if you need it so bad. 10k a month huh? well 40% of that already goes to the govt and now you want to take more. To what end are you willing to rob me of my american dream? What you really dont realize is that with this plan, everyone is subject to substandard healthcare and not quality care. Half of the uninsured choose to be... I know in college and through my mid and late twenty's all i needed was eye and dental care, not a full package. Your just too stupid to investigate all the options out there. And it is definitely not in the constitution. Now i have to pay for some crack heads healthcare and social wellbeing. Final point... If you want better healthcare, get a better paying job... Oh and where are those jobs that were supposed to be created? its been over a year now.... and 162k temporary census jobs in the month of march doesnt count because they are temporary. Be responsible for yourself and dont burden my family.

Posted by: cmcpherson007 | April 4, 2010 9:44 PM | Report abuse

team obama MOCKS those with respiratory conditions

team obama was CAUGHT red handed MOCKING those with respiratory difficulty through their agent

kevincondor0713

"WELCOME MOUTH-BREATHING........."

team obama--no shame

Posted by: praetorian-guard | April 4, 2010 9:41 PM | Report abuse

WELCOME MOUTH-BREATHING DRUDGETARDS!

Q: What do Drudge, Limbaugh, Hannity, and Beck all have in common?

A: None of them could even graduate from college.

Yet you trust Drudge to control your information about economics and tax policy.

Think for yourselves Drudgetards!

Posted by: kevincondor0713 | April 4, 2010 9:40 PM | Report abuse

"MOUTH-BREATHING DRUDGETARDS"???

Well, from a mouth-breathing Drudgetard speaking to a butt-breathing libtard, all Drudge does is point to new articles in your own media. Geeze.

Posted by: jeelbear1 | April 4, 2010 9:38 PM | Report abuse

the real indication of obama incompetence

and socialism

is the fact

obama had never CONSIDERED

the possibility of over taxation

obama--its the socialism, stupid

Posted by: praetorian-guard | April 4, 2010 9:38 PM | Report abuse

WELCOME MOUTH-BREATHING DRUDGETARDS!

Q: What do Drudge, Limbaugh, Hannity, and Beck all have in common?

A: None of them could even graduate from college.

Yet you trust Drudge to control your information about economics and tax policy.

Think for yourselves Drudgetards!

Posted by: kevincondor0713 | April 4, 2010 9:35 PM | Report abuse

The man is not only a bore, he is a math dolt.

Posted by: Yeeeech | April 4, 2010 9:35 PM | Report abuse

kevincondor0713--

regretfully, you will have to be reported to the dnc for violating the official spamming policy

1. you failed to use numerous fake screeen names so that you can agree and recommend yourself

see dnc spam memo 4.67

2. you failed to blame bush

this is the dnc prime directive 1.1

3. you failed to slightly modify your comment--amateurish sing the exact same spam

dnc spam memo 3.65

at least have mispelled versions

we expect better spamming

come come

Posted by: praetorian-guard | April 4, 2010 9:33 PM | Report abuse

Kevincandor: "WELCOME MOUTH-BREATHING DRUDGETARDS!

Q: What do Drudge, Limbaugh, Hannity, and Beck all have in common?

A: None of them could even graduate from college.

Yet you trust Drudge to control your information about economics and tax policy.

Think for yourselves Drudgetards!"

What's the definition of stupidity? A liberal who keeps doing the same thing over and over again with no results.

Posted by: liberalsareblind | April 4, 2010 9:32 PM | Report abuse

WELCOME MOUTH-BREATHING DRUDGETARDS!

Q: What do Drudge, Limbaugh, Hannity, and Beck all have in common?

A: None of them could even graduate from college.

Yet you trust Drudge to control your information about economics and tax policy.

Think for yourselves Drudgetards!

Posted by: kevincondor0713 | April 4, 2010 9:32 PM | Report abuse

yesnut1, that was an intense video, thank you for the link

Posted by: HughLai | April 4, 2010 9:31 PM | Report abuse

Kevincondor0713's new hopey changey world:
...no such thing anymore as a self-made man.

Posted by: maitre_premier | April 4, 2010 9:29 PM | Report abuse

kevincondor0713 said,

WELCOME MOUTH-BREATHING DRUDGETARDS!

Q: What do Drudge, Limbaugh, Hannity, and Beck all have in common?

A: None of them could even graduate from college.

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

You forgot Microsoft's Bill Gates, Apple's Steve Jobs, Dell's Michael Dell....

Inspired innovators don't need college, do they?

Oh, and Abraham Lincoln.

Posted by: RomeoHotel | April 4, 2010 9:28 PM | Report abuse

drudge--master of all media

Posted by: praetorian-guard | April 4, 2010 9:28 PM | Report abuse

WELCOME MOUTH-BREATHING DRUDGETARDS!

Q: What do Drudge, Limbaugh, Hannity, and Beck all have in common?

A: None of them could even graduate from college.

Yet you trust Drudge to control your information about economics and tax policy.

Think for yourselves Drudgetards!

Posted by: kevincondor0713 | April 4, 2010 9:26 PM | Report abuse

Obama’s Pathological Narcissism
why obama is compelled to pursue failed socialist economic policies

In his monumental work "Hitler and Stalin" Alan Bullock notes both Hitler and Stalin were narcissists. We ares NOT stating Obama is either Hitler or Stalin. But his analysis, written long before Obama's ascendancy, is a useful model.

Bullock explains narcissism on page 11:

"In such a state only the person himself, his needs,feelings and thoughts, everything and and everybody as they relate to him are experienced as fully real, while everybody and everything otherwise lacks reality or interest."

Bullock describes the effects of narcissism and provides a predictive model useful for Obama on page 343:

"Narcissistic personalities are convinced of their special qualities and their superiority over others, and any threat to this self image--such as being criticized, shown up, or defeated--produces a violent outrage and often a desire for revenge."

Bullock cites 3 psychological reactions Stalin used to guard his narcissistic self image. Bullock credits Robert Tucker for these insights on page 356. The 3 reactions to expect for the Obama profile would be:

1. Repression–simply blankly deny the truth, no matter how obvious or even if caught on video

2. Rationalization-Admit but use the fault as proof of his zeal

3. Projection-Obama will attribute to others the motives and attitudes he refuses to admit in himself

What is a narcissist’s response to open clear failure???

Denial and delusion.

As Stalin approached form the east and the USA from the west, and defeat was self evident, Hitler gave orders to non existent army divisions by decree. Warning signs include withdrawal from public speaking, to which narcissists are addicted like crack, hysterical attacks on those speaking the truth like this woman.........

Posted by: praetorian-guard | April 4, 2010 9:25 PM | Report abuse

kevincondor0713 illustrates how libs engage in debate:

Shout an accusation, then run for cover.

Posted by: chaffer | April 4, 2010 9:24 PM | Report abuse

bubba in texas;that's right,that's why our taxes are going higher and higher to pay for some of these freeloaders health care,so they can saty home and watch T.V. all day,Oprah,jerry Springer,Soaps and the likes while millions of hard working Americans must work harder and longer to pay for all these entitlements;they can even buy alcohol and drugs with food stamps and to top it off soon,free health care,and i ask myself again and again:why work?

Posted by: jackal4 | April 4, 2010 9:24 PM | Report abuse

WELCOME MOUTH-BREATHING DRUDGETARDS!

Q: What do Drudge, Limbaugh, Hannity, and Beck all have in common?

A: None of them could even graduate from college.

Yet you trust Drudge to control your information about economics and tax policy.

Think for yourselves Drudgetards!

Posted by: kevincondor0713 | April 4, 2010 9:17 PM | Report abuse

By the way, Kevin Condor's point about Drudge, Rush, et al, is actually quite false. To suggest that they "could not graduate" is a lie.

But cleverly deceptive language is the essence of the Obama culture.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7sllmo73U2A

Posted by: yesnut1 | April 4, 2010 9:16 PM | Report abuse

The prison system should put his answer on an infinite loop and force the inmates to watch it instead of providing normal TV channels.

Posted by: bboodry | April 4, 2010 9:14 PM | Report abuse

WELCOME MOUTH-BREATHING DRUDGETARDS!

Q: What do Drudge, Limbaugh, Hannity, and Beck all have in common?

A: None of them could even graduate from college.

Yet you trust Drudge to control your information about economics and tax policy.

Think for yourselves Drudgetards!

Posted by: kevincondor0713 | April 4, 2010 9:12 PM | Report abuse

you know the old saying " if you can't dazzle them with brillance then dazzle them bullcrap" amazing

Posted by: tazgood101aolcom | April 4, 2010 9:12 PM | Report abuse

Hey quinned, theres a reason it says GENERAL WELFARE, and not TOTAL WELFARE, you dolt. Are you a closet commie, or just a socialist?

Posted by: HughLai | April 4, 2010 9:11 PM | Report abuse

Typical leftist doublespeak. He tries to confuse the people to make them think he knows what he's talking about.

Posted by: boutros1 | April 4, 2010 9:09 PM | Report abuse

WELCOME MOUTH-BREATHING DRUDGETARDS!

Q: What do Drudge, Limbaugh, Hannity, and Beck all have in common?

A: None of them could even graduate from college.

Yet you trust Drudge to control your information about economics and tax policy.

Think for yourselves Drudgetards!

Posted by: kevincondor0713 | April 4, 2010 9:08 PM | Report abuse

I see and hear people say they can't afford health insurance but they pay a monthly subscription for cable/satellite, have a flat panel HDTV, have the latest and greatest iphone and pay a monthly subscription for cellular service that lets them make calls and surf the web and text message while in their rides with chrome wheels at $300.00 to $500.00 each. And yes, my taxes are high, and yes they're going higher to pay for these "entitlement" programs these same people feel they're "entitled" to. And now Obama's mental incompentency, or more likely his unwillingness to tell the truth, won't let him answer a straight forward question.

Posted by: bubba_n_texas | April 4, 2010 9:05 PM | Report abuse

To quinned:me making $10k a month?,are you smoking the same s**t Obama and Hank Johnson are smoking?

Posted by: jackal4 | April 4, 2010 9:04 PM | Report abuse

Too bad 'recall' isnt in the US constitution, cuz clearly we cant wait untill 2012 to TAKE OUR COUNTRY BACK.
And impeach isnt a good idea either becuz barry HUSSEIN has impeach insurance, as in the gaff machine pro tem, joe 'bilbo baggins' biden.

Posted by: HughLai | April 4, 2010 9:04 PM | Report abuse

WELCOME MOUTH-BREATHING DRUDGETARDS!

Q: What do Drudge, Limbaugh, Hannity, and Beck all have in common?

A: None of them could even graduate from college.

Yet you trust Drudge to control your information about economics and tax policy.

Think for yourselves Drudgetards!

Posted by: kevincondor0713 | April 4, 2010 9:01 PM | Report abuse

jimlocke1,

There wont be term limits because the 'Me' in States, People and Organizations is more important than the collective 'We'.

Your probably correct when you said, "Congress has a less than 20% approval rating yet we re-elect 90% of them." ...and saying... "It's because we all have the attitude that "it's not MY representative that's the problem, it's YOUR representative."" - Again, the 'Me' in people and organizations.

The 'Me' is taking care of themselves and their states. As long as the 'Me's (states, organizations, people) have what they want they wont come together for the good of the country unless it benefits them. Even if it's for the benefit of the "'We' the People".

Posted by: quinned | April 4, 2010 8:59 PM | Report abuse

flag all of kevincondor0713's comments for REPORT ABUSE, if u notice hes ONLY spamming here, clearly a violation of the sites TOS

Posted by: HughLai | April 4, 2010 8:58 PM | Report abuse

Folks,you must check the comments from congressman Hank Johnson,democrat from Georgia's 4th district sugesting in the house floor to an admiral how would the relocation of 8,000 Navy-Marine Corps personel to the island territory of Guam would "cause the island to tip over and capsize",i couldn't believe what i was watching;yet this is the kind of people who vote and make the laws for all of us to follow;unvelievable,you can check it out for youeselves if you want,is all over you tube.An island "capsizing" because of over population,unvelievable!!

Posted by: jackal4 | April 4, 2010 8:55 PM | Report abuse

WELCOME MOUTH-BREATHING DRUDGETARDS!

Q: What do Drudge, Limbaugh, Hannity, and Beck all have in common?

A: None of them could even graduate from college.

Yet you trust Drudge to control your information about economics and tax policy.

Think for yourselves Drudgetards!

Posted by: kevincondor0713 | April 4, 2010 8:54 PM | Report abuse

Louis Farrakhan and family are in the (White) House! Certainly helps explain some things that we already knew...once again.

http://www.whitehouse.gov/waves/all/Farrakhan#visitor-data

Posted by: haiku360 | April 4, 2010 8:54 PM | Report abuse

A loser liberal DOOSHBAG named kevincondor0713 asks this:

Q: What do Drudge, Limbaugh, Hannity, and Beck all have in common?

A: They all have more viewers and listeners than the top 20 liberals in their respective fields combined (might be top 50 but not sure if theres even that many liberal voices of consequence out there)

Posted by: HughLai | April 4, 2010 8:52 PM | Report abuse

WELCOME MOUTH-BREATHING DRUDGETARDS!

Q: What do Drudge, Limbaugh, Hannity, and Beck all have in common?

A: None of them could even graduate from college.

Yet you trust Drudge to control your information about economics and tax policy.

Think for yourselves Drudgetards!

Posted by: kevincondor0713 | April 4, 2010 8:51 PM | Report abuse

I'd love to do a drug test on that man!

Posted by: TStewart2 | April 4, 2010 8:51 PM | Report abuse

The presidency is a very difficult job, even for a person who is qualified for it. For someone like Obama, with absolutely no prior experience to qualify him for such a lofty job, it has to be absolutely maddening. Obama's insane response to a simple question pretty much shows that he is losing it. While he cannot be impeached for crimes, it may be worthwhile investigating whether he can be retired for mental incompetence.

Posted by: JCIll | April 4, 2010 8:50 PM | Report abuse

I didn't notice much traffic from air america here other than the couple of paid obongo shills.

Posted by: liberalsodomy | April 4, 2010 8:49 PM | Report abuse

Yah, Kevin Condor should be flagged because of his repetitive post. I'm guessing he is using a software program to automate it (24 hours straight).

It's too bad, because he makes a legitimate point about conformity and group thinking (much like the Obama disciples.) I made a video on the very subject.

view and comment please:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7sllmo73U2A

Posted by: yesnut1 | April 4, 2010 8:49 PM | Report abuse

WELCOME MOUTH-BREATHING DRUDGETARDS!

Q: What do Drudge, Limbaugh, Hannity, and Beck all have in common?

A: None of them could even graduate from college.

Yet you trust Drudge to control your information about economics and tax policy.

Think for yourselves Drudgetards!

Posted by: kevincondor0713 | April 4, 2010 8:47 PM | Report abuse

It's funny how drudge is blamed by the left for the popularity of this article. All that Drudge does is link to news sources, yet he is blamed for the content.

Crucify him! Crucify him! Says Kevin Condor.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7sllmo73U2A

Posted by: yesnut1 | April 4, 2010 8:43 PM | Report abuse

I think we finally have something that is in fact longer than either

"Bye, Bye, Miss American Pie" or "Freebird"

Posted by: Washington13 | April 4, 2010 8:43 PM | Report abuse

ATTENTION ALL PEOPLE WHO LOVE FREEDOM, flag kevincondor0713 for REPORT ABUSE, he keeps spamming the same thing, in a vain attempt to silence the WILL OF THE AMERICAN PEOPLE!!!!!!!!!!

Ironic yet fitting that prez B. HUSSEIN Odrama has such a low life like kevin attempting to defend him here, in the face of MOUNTAINS OF TRUTH, and his only arguement is to SPAM a losing point, and try to silence FREE SPECH. typical lib

Posted by: HughLai | April 4, 2010 8:42 PM | Report abuse

WELCOME MOUTH-BREATHING DRUDGETARDS!

Q: What do Drudge, Limbaugh, Hannity, and Beck all have in common?

A: None of them could even graduate from college.

Yet you trust Drudge to control your information about economics and tax policy.

Think for yourselves Drudgetards!

Posted by: kevincondor0713 | April 4, 2010 8:42 PM | Report abuse

ATTENTION ALL PEOPLE WHO LOVE FREEDOM, flag kevincondor0713 for REPORT ABUSE, he keeps spamming the same thing, in a vain attempt to silence the WILL OF THE AMERICAN PEOPLE!!!!!!!!!!

Ironic yet fitting that prez B. HUSSEIN Odrama has such a low life like kevin attempting to defend him here, in the face of MOUNTAINS OF TRUTH, and his only arguement is to SPAM a losing point, and try to silence FREE SPECH. typical lib

Posted by: HughLai | April 4, 2010 8:40 PM | Report abuse


jackal14 - You pay $1K a month for federal,state,local,fica and other taxes and you already have healthcare coverage for your family and now you think your getting robbed? Is that because others who work hard also and can't afford insurance or are stuck with sub-standard coverage because they don't make $10K a month like you do?!? As long as you are rich, a senior citizen (medicare) or are part of the U.S. Government you don't have to worry about your health care.
quinned

Posted by: quinned | April 4, 2010 8:39 PM | Report abuse

WELCOME MOUTH-BREATHING DRUDGETARDS!

Q: What do Drudge, Limbaugh, Hannity, and Beck all have in common?

A: None of them could even graduate from college.

Yet you trust Drudge to control your information about economics and tax policy.

Think for yourselves Drudgetards!

Posted by: kevincondor0713 | April 4, 2010 8:37 PM | Report abuse

I'd love it if someone conducted a formal study comparing the education levels of 100 random soldiers fighting in Afghanistan with 100 random Hollywood actors. I'd bet money the average Soldier, Sailor, Airman, or Marine is more educated than the average Hollywood actor. Those actors who actually do have a 4 year degree, probably studied drama or liberal arts, not something substantive that might actually qualify them to spout off like management, engineering, political science, or international relations.

Posted by: Delphinus13 | April 4, 2010 8:35 PM | Report abuse

I'd love it if someone conducted a formal study comparing the education levels of 100 random soldiers fighting in Afghanistan with 100 random Hollywood actors. I'd bet mony the average Soldier, Sailor, Airman, or Marine is more educated than the average Hollywood actor. Those actors who actually do have a 4 year degree, probably studied drama or liberal arts, not something substantive that might actually qualify them to spout off like management, engineering, political science, or international relations.

Posted by: Delphinus13 | April 4, 2010 8:35 PM | Report abuse

WELCOME MOUTH-BREATHING DRUDGETARDS!

Q: What do Drudge, Limbaugh, Hannity, and Beck all have in common?

A: None of them could even graduate from college.

Yet you trust Drudge to control your information about economics and tax policy.

Think for yourselves Drudgetards!

Posted by: kevincondor0713 | April 4, 2010 8:34 PM | Report abuse

kevincondor0713 is probably one of the same people who called names the loudest against Bush, Condi, and others for their "stupidity" even though Condi has a PhD, Bush as a Bachelors and MBA from Harvard and Yale respectively, and many other Bush administration officials were highly education and at the top of their respective fields. When all the uneducated, ignoramus Hollywood high school dropouts spout their liberal garbage, he probably bows down at the idol and worships their every word.

Pretty comical that when a woman asks a straightforward question, and when Barry drones on for 17 minutes tap dancing around the question, the libtards discount it as "nuance," accuse the citizen asking the question as "too dumb to understand." or play the "Race card." This whole Health Care sales pitch fels like one of those high-pressure Timeshare sales jobs in Las Vegas where they throw overwhelming information at the person, try to paint them as "stupid" if they don't take the "deal of a lifetime," and then pull out 50 pages of fine print and urge the people to "Sign now" or else lose out.

Posted by: Delphinus13 | April 4, 2010 8:32 PM | Report abuse

To jmr012: You claim those of us who own businesses must be terrible to work for. Well, I own a business. I employ 14 people. My anger isn't toward them and they feel good about coming to work. My anger is toward Washington, D.C. because it's those who have never built a business, never been responsible for meeting a payroll, never struggled to reinvest in the business to grow the business and be able to hire more people and put more people to work so more people can earn a living, have money to pay their bills, put food on the table, clothe their children, shelter over their heads. It's business (that dirty word) whether it's big business or small business that creates the jobs and provides the paychecks. You, Mr. jmr012, can go out and ask the panhandler on the street corner for a job and see how much of a paycheck you get at the end of the week. You, Mr. jmr012, if you do work, be grateful to your employer for hiring you, for keeping you, for having an income, but you sound like one who blames business owners but you won't turn down that paycheck.

Posted by: bubba_n_texas | April 4, 2010 8:32 PM | Report abuse

WELCOME MOUTH-BREATHING DRUDGETARDS!

Q: What do Drudge, Limbaugh, Hannity, and Beck all have in common?

A: None of them could even graduate from college.

Yet you trust Drudge to control your information about economics and tax policy.

Think for yourselves Drudgetards!

Posted by: kevincondor0713 | April 4, 2010 8:32 PM | Report abuse

kevincondor0713; "WELCOME MOUTH-BREATHING DRUDGETARDS! Q: What do Drudge, Limbaugh, Hannity, and Beck all have in common? A: None of them could even graduate from college. Yet you trust Drudge to control your information about economics and tax policy. Think for yourselves Drudgetards!
Posted by: kevincondor0713"

What an asinine statement.

Neither did Abraham Lincoln, Andrew Jackson, Jesus Christ, Socrates, Confusius, Winston Churchill, Patrick Henry, Bill Gates, Larry Ellison & more!

There are example after example throughout history where men without a "formal education" went on to become truely worthy individuals!

You are misguided in thinking that a "college education" produces worthy individual, just look around.

What they have produced are "educated derelicts"!

The executive branch is full of them.

Have a nice moment...

Posted by: thomaspaine001 | April 4, 2010 8:31 PM | Report abuse

WELCOME MOUTH-BREATHING DRUDGETARDS!

Q: What do Drudge, Limbaugh, Hannity, and Beck all have in common?

A: None of them could even graduate from college.

Yet you trust Drudge to control your information about economics and tax policy.

Think for yourselves Drudgetards!

Posted by: kevincondor0713 | April 4, 2010 8:30 PM | Report abuse

Kevvie, your posts are SO rich with unintended irony. A liberal radical (you) stakes a frivolous "claim" to the intellectual high ground then, faced with the facts, resorts to shrill repetition and name calling. You are an unwitting stereotype of the liberal activist, baby.

Posted by: drudgefan | April 4, 2010 8:29 PM | Report abuse

Correction. "This is Obama's brains on drugs". FRIED!

Posted by: RightStuff | April 4, 2010 8:26 PM | Report abuse

This parentless coon is selling poison.

Posted by: liberalsodomy | April 4, 2010 8:26 PM | Report abuse

Folks,in November remember who voted for this debacle and if your representative has a "D" next to his or her name and voted "yes" for this crap,you make sure you vote "no" for his/her re-election.Get involved and select conservative candidates who would promote conservative values,small government and lower taxes to stimulate economic growth and job oportunities;down with marxism/comunism/big government!!

Posted by: jackal4 | April 4, 2010 8:26 PM | Report abuse

WELCOME MOUTH-BREATHING DRUDGETARDS!

Q: What do Drudge, Limbaugh, Hannity, and Beck all have in common?

A: None of them could even graduate from college.

Yet you trust Drudge to control your information about economics and tax policy.

Think for yourselves Drudgetards!

Posted by: kevincondor0713 | April 4, 2010 8:25 PM | Report abuse

Will everyone here PLEASE flag kevincondor0713's posts. He has spam posted the same tired message for hours now, and it get continually PWNED.

Gee tomorrow im sure when i turn on my radio kevins wisdom will override my brain and i will turn on NPR instead.

Posted by: HughLai | April 4, 2010 8:24 PM | Report abuse

15 minutes to answer a ten second question? This man was not educated in a college, he was educated in an insane asylum. Oh, yeah, then again, he was.

Posted by: MarkinIdaho | April 4, 2010 8:20 PM | Report abuse

WELCOME MOUTH-BREATHING DRUDGETARDS!

Q: What do Drudge, Limbaugh, Hannity, and Beck all have in common?

A: None of them could even graduate from college.

Yet you trust Drudge to control your information about economics and tax policy.

Think for yourselves Drudgetards!

Posted by: kevincondor0713 | April 4, 2010 8:18 PM | Report abuse

When you look at Barack Obama, think of the old public service ad that said, "This is your brain on drugs." Scrambled.

Posted by: RightStuff | April 4, 2010 8:17 PM | Report abuse

REPORT ABUSE for kevincondor0713 he keeps spamming the same tired comment.

And now for my two cents: people will be throwing alot more than bricks through windows if these COMMIE LIBTARDS keep up their socialist agenda. PEOPLE ARE PISSED OFF!! RACE HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH IT, Barry HUSSEIN Odrama could be WHITER THAN JIMMY STEWART, and the american public would reject this socialism with JUST AS MUCH ANGER. Now there is a JIMMY Oblama looks alot like only its CARTER, not Stewart.

Posted by: HughLai | April 4, 2010 8:17 PM | Report abuse

luck2sammy, April 4, 2010, 7:19 PM Great post!

The founding fathers knew that too much central government power has a corrupting influence. And, absolute power corrupts absolutely. This truth led to the creation of our system of central government. Our central government is based on these principles, and these historical truths about human nature and human civil society.
http://www.phrases.org.uk/meanings/288200.html

Historically, the individual has had three threats, three dangers, to his life to his liberty and to his pursuit of happiness.

The first threat was from his own government. Historically, more have been slaughtered by their own central government. During the 20th century alone socialist and communist governments have slaughtered 100 million+ citizens in the utopian quest for social and economic justice.

The second threat came from other governments. Many have been slaughtered in wars between central governments.

The third and final threat came from society descending into a war of all against all. From the have-nots attacking the haves in class warfare. "Bellum omnium contra omnes," a Latin phrase meaning "the war of all against all":
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bellum_omnium_contra_omnes

democrats seeking to breakdown the fabric of society for political gain, as is the case in all democrat controlled urban centers, feed on civil disorder:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rules_for_Radicals

Saul Alinsky in Rules for Radicals observed, "There's another reason for working inside the system. Dostoevski said that taking a new step is what people fear most...They must feel so frustrated, so defeated, so lost, so futureless in the prevailing system that they are willing to let go of the past and change the future..." Saul Alinsky should have written, “take on the “chains of the future.”

Radical progressives want to bring American exceptionalism to an end. And, America will return to how mankind has historically governed themselves, By the Rule of Man! Where the strong Man, the radical progressive tyrant, not the Law is supreme.

Posted by: larry22 | April 4, 2010 8:15 PM | Report abuse

To kevincondor0713: Drudge, Limbaugh, Hannity, and Beck may not have graduated from college, but plain ol' common sense trumps educated ignorance everyday. Besides, Obama knows exactly what he wants to do and he also knows we know what he wants to do. That's the reason he's fast tracking before the mid term elections. Educated idiots are so annoying.

Posted by: bubba_n_texas | April 4, 2010 8:14 PM | Report abuse

WELCOME MOUTH-BREATHING DRUDGETARDS!

Q: What do Drudge, Limbaugh, Hannity, and Beck all have in common?

A: None of them could even graduate from college.

Yet you trust Drudge to control your information about economics and tax policy.

Think for yourselves Drudgetards!

Posted by: kevincondor0713 | April 4, 2010 8:12 PM | Report abuse

This complete BS has, of course, now been picked up by Drudge. What a farce our corporate media have become.

Posted by: ejs2 | April 4, 2010 8:11 PM | Report abuse

@ kevincondor0713

Ted Turner, founder of CNN also did not graduate from college. So what? You have no point.

Posted by: gvenema | April 4, 2010 8:09 PM | Report abuse

to kevincondor0713 and the calling of names - as usual, your type ( a lib no doubt ) result to name calling instead of addressing the facts. Did you ever stop to think that maybe it is just because of the fact that these people were not mentally corrupted by a liberal college mindset that this is the reason they can see thru the O man's bull and correctly reflect on what is really going on. Most college grads I know have not a lick of common sense or real world practical knowledge and 98% of the "professors" could not survive in a job outside of academia.

Posted by: ObserverOnTheHill | April 4, 2010 8:09 PM | Report abuse

WELCOME MOUTH-BREATHING DRUDGETARDS!

Q: What do Drudge, Limbaugh, Hannity, and Beck all have in common?

A: None of them could even graduate from college.

Yet you trust Drudge to control your information about economics and tax policy.

Think for yourselves Drudgetards!

Posted by: kevincondor0713 | April 4, 2010 7:58 PM | Report abuse

doubt.

Posted by: ameriapp | April 4, 2010 7:57 PM | Report abuse

Be the change! Help my video go viral!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7sllmo73U2A

Posted by: yesnut1 | April 4, 2010 7:56 PM | Report abuse

"It is better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak and remove all doubt." (Abe Lincoln,R.)

Posted by: ameriapp | April 4, 2010 7:55 PM | Report abuse

Where's the text of what he said?

Posted by: reinkefj | April 4, 2010 7:55 PM | Report abuse

Do they really think 400 criminals in DC can impose their will on 200 million armed citizens and not pay a personal price? Lists have been made and distributed.

Posted by: liberalsodomy | April 4, 2010 7:49 PM | Report abuse

Obviously someone unplugged the tele-prompter at 2,500 words, or he'd of blathered until he keeled over from dehydration. It takes alot out of a man to sling that much BS.

Posted by: bidenBFidiot | April 4, 2010 7:49 PM | Report abuse

What is so sad is that once he puts the coal industry out of business, what will power up these new batteries he is touting the stimulus bill created. When you are out to destroy the economy, I guess the ends do justify the means!

Posted by: ameriapp | April 4, 2010 7:49 PM | Report abuse

Folks,if the Supreme court does not overturn and uphold this outrage,then the republic as we know it will be officially dead;there would be no limit as to what this a holes in D.C could dictate to us,scary & dangerous times indeed!!

Posted by: jackal4 | April 4, 2010 7:41 PM | Report abuse

What's so funny is that once he puts the coal industry out of business, how are they going to power up these new batteries he is touting the stimulus for creating?

Posted by: ameriapp | April 4, 2010 7:41 PM | Report abuse

Looks like we're going to need to those militias to take back the cities from the fatherless welfare thugs soon. Once the economy collapses and police don't get paid or their money is worthless with hyperinflation, they will walk off the job. The entitlement checks will stop. Riots/rape/looting in the cities. We will have to take them back. In the long run it will be good.

Posted by: tjhall1 | April 4, 2010 7:38 PM | Report abuse

Obama is offended when challenged and consistently lies with a dismissive arrogance that is stunning.He claims we "allow" 50 million people to go without health insurance.Anyone even casually familiar with the facts knows this is blatantly false.We have near 15 million people who CHOOSE not to buy health insurance.The 50 million figure is grossly overstated,even if we toss in the 12-15 million illegals who are not covered and will continue to flood our hospital emergency rooms because there is no provision for them to buy insurance under Obamacare.Our president cannot continue to lie repeatedly and hope to have any credibility.He is squandering the support and good will he enjoyed when inaugurated and the polls reflect a loss of both confidence and respect.

Posted by: bowspray | April 4, 2010 7:37 PM | Report abuse

"The way to crush the bourgeoisie is to grind them between the millstones of taxation and inflation" --Vladimir Lenin

Lenin was leader of the Bolshevik Revolution and founding father of the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics (USSR)

With respect to Freedom5000


This is worth remembering.

Posted by: nickel1951 | April 4, 2010 7:30 PM | Report abuse

..............and he wonders why his approval rating is plummeting!! In the future, hope we will have the good sense to elect someone who has worked for a living prior to occupying the White House!! This guy just talks!!

Posted by: wheeljc | April 4, 2010 7:29 PM | Report abuse

The man is a glib moron. Frightening. A self-admitted youthful drug abuser who not only suffers from the arrested maturity that goes along with it, he also obviously suffers brain damage to the point that he is delusional. Find a short history of Karl Marx, and you will find out that Barack Obama is living out Marx's life as a radical.

Posted by: RightStuff | April 4, 2010 7:23 PM | Report abuse

kevincondor0713,

Better a drudgetard than a useful idiot. BO will make good use of you!

Posted by: jans1 | April 4, 2010 7:22 PM | Report abuse

Good God, this long-winded discourse by the President epitomizes the conundrum of those who interpret "intellectual prowess" as visionary intelligence that enables
one with the ability to evaluate relative importances and do something for the greater well-being of the individuals within the nation.

Rational thinking always precedes rational actions. Such rational actions are expected to assist the nation's individual's toward unfettered freedoms and resulting prosperity. We are a nation of individuals are we not.

Errant "thinkers" who admire the intellect without a corresponding axpectation that intelligence be put into productive action
are worshipping at the clay feet of an "intelligence" that has no respect for the inherent individual intelligence of man
the doer without whom nothing gets done.

Many intellectuals" have been convinced man does not have or is not an individual soul or that anyone is at home at all. Go to any campus and check it out. Such faulty thinking is a very poor foundation for a political philosophy considering if "there if no one home" who is to get things done?

That "man the individual" championed by the Nations Founders has lead to the greatness of the Nation belies the
"Intellectual" assertion that the unthinking and all consuming state is our salvation.

The proof of failure of today's political philosophical offerings is evident in the glib in-effectiveness and failure evident all around us in any statistical study of economy, education, law and workable philosophy.

The ivory tower "thinkers" of today are so full of themselves they appear incapable of introspection. The result is an obnoxious compulsion to flaunt their so-called brilliance by imposing regulatory strangulation on the nation and citizenry alike. The cerebral ramblings veil either an unwillingness or inability to produce or expect any great achievement for mankind.

The absence of rational thought in todays politics is exemplified in the over-grasping and under-analyed health care bill recently forced upon us with all it's labyrinthine complexities.

The vapid political-world "thinkers" are apparently creations of campus ideologues pretending to be "educators" who are largely to blame; they have led these so-called intellectuals to conclude that the brilliance of our Constitutional framers was non-existent or misguided when in fact their presence was arguably the most brilliant and ethical assemblage of men ever on the planet.

So far nothing less than the worthless slop of the un-productive slavish philosphy of socialism or worse is being offered up as a solution to the most productive nation that has ever existed on the planet. Good God are we to trade our extraordinary heritage for what these so-called modern day intellectuals bring to the table?

Posted by: luck2sammy | April 4, 2010 7:19 PM | Report abuse

Didn't the great one himself said that he would concentrate on job creation shortly after Scott Brown was elected in Massachussets?,NOT!!!!!

Posted by: jackal4 | April 4, 2010 7:18 PM | Report abuse

Can I summarize the missed single payer healthcare approach that many of my liberal friends contend was what they really, really wanted from President Obama. Single payer health care is when the Government just takes all of the money from those that are working and calls it a premium and not a tax. All those who don't work get to go to the doctors offices and sit there so that any worker has to take an entire day off from work to even see a doctor. But we didn't get that we got ObamaCare which is the same thing except it doesn't take over the insurance companies it just uses them as utilities to pass the taxes on to the workers and to protect the politicans from having to directly take the blame when they say grand ma has to die because some illegal can use that MRI more than she can.

Posted by: nickel1951 | April 4, 2010 7:15 PM | Report abuse

An empty suit. If he tries to pass a VAT tax on top of what we are already paying, forget it. George Soros is telling this fool what to do step by step. Laser focus on jobs, huh...he is doing everything in his power to kill job creation in the private sector so that job growth will have to happen in government.

Posted by: dschwarpa | April 4, 2010 7:12 PM | Report abuse

dear rangerrick:

you missed the greatest "uneducated" mind ever...... einstein... failed out of like 5th grade (US equivalent)

Oh, well, let's see what freedom from a liberal mind washing might produce (excluding bill gates and those already listed)

ansel adams
woody allen
louis armstrong (HS dropout)
John Astor (HS dropout)
Dan Akroyd
Kevin Bacon
Lucille Ball
Tyra Banks
Steve Ballmer (microsoft billionaire)
John Bartlett (owns harvards bookstore, declined admission)
Robert Bergman
Irving Berlin
William Blake (never attended a single public institution, free will?)
Richard Branson (could practically buy the US)
George Carlin
John Carmack (don't know who that is, so sad)
Scott Carpenter (failed out of Colorado because he wouldn't abide by the PC crowd there)
Ray Charles

And that's stopping 1/2 way through the C's

Give it a rest ken... Being "educated" like obama is a BAD thing.

Posted by: docwhocuts | April 4, 2010 7:07 PM | Report abuse

To kevincondor0713, do you know who else dropped out of college - Bill Gates, Steve Jobs, and Michael Dell. Yet most of the world trusts their companies in some shape or form for their computing needs. Do some research next time. you ignorant liberal.

As to the article, it doesn't suprise me that it took Obama that long to answer. He is still in campaign mode.

Posted by: WVSickFreak | April 4, 2010 7:06 PM | Report abuse

I wish the left wing PAID harassers would find a real job and pay real taxes!.....

I wonder if Soros pays their FICA.

Posted by: drsevrin1 | April 4, 2010 7:05 PM | Report abuse

If the federal government has the power to mandate individuals to "buy" healthcare insurance,it most certainlly has the power to mandate freeloaders to work for a living!!

Posted by: jackal4 | April 4, 2010 7:05 PM | Report abuse

As a former speech teacher, I had pointed out to friends that any time someone engages in the "three-point" diatribe, they are covering ignorance. "First point" is always what readily comes to mind, that possibly sounds good and plausible. The following two points are made up on the way after the respondent has given themselves time. Used car salesmen of average intelligence engage in this tactic to cover their ignorance and snow their victims. Sadly, our president is is better qualified to be on the car lot than in the White House. What were we thinking?

Posted by: projo | April 4, 2010 7:01 PM | Report abuse

jackal4 You don't be cutting into our game Bro. We be down with daat.

Posted by: nickel1951 | April 4, 2010 7:00 PM | Report abuse

Why does Obama feel the need to continue to LIE...when he has "won"?

“the only advanced country that allows 50 million of its citizens to not have any health insurance,"

The FEDERAL GOVERNMENT'S numbers on this are VERY CLEAR...there are 46 million PERSONS in the US without health insurance....of THOSE...8 million are "Not a Citizen"....leaving 38 million ...."Citizens" without health insurance.

And of THOSE....8 million live in households making $50K + a year AND another 9 million in households making $70k +.....(3-5 times the poverty level) and who CHOOSE NOT TO PURCHASE HEALTH INSURANCE.

Leaving us with 21 Million "Citizens" in the US without the means to purchase health insurance.

But wait, remember those 8 million "Not a Citizen"? That is actually out of a pool of 20 million "Not a Citizens"....thus, 12 Million "Not a Citizens" live in households that have a WORKER who is in a job that provides health ins benefits or enough salary to purchase private insurance....

MEANING that a further ...12 MILLION "Citizens" could have health insurance if not for the JOBS BEING TAKEN FROM THEM by "Not a Citizens"

Leaving us with really only 9 million CITIZENS of the US too poor to purchase health insurance but not poor enough to qualify for current aide. That is just 3.2% of the actual "CITIZEN" population of the US.

The rest of the "CITIZENS" need help in getting a good paying job back from the "Not a Citizens" ....

or

serious financial motivation (penalties, no bankruptcy protection, etc) to make purchasing healthcare insurance a "priority" over whatever the heck else they are spending their $50-70K + a year on.

Posted by: EngRAD | April 4, 2010 6:59 PM | Report abuse

Commie basterd.

Posted by: boutros1 | April 4, 2010 6:58 PM | Report abuse

I believe kevincondor, you should be reported for abuse each and everytime you post spam here, its intellectually dishonest, and clearly everyone has PWNED you on the topic of graduates or not.

Also you are stiffling whatever free and open debate we are having here. To just copy, paste and post the same message (BTW THATS SPAM) is most likely in VIOLATION of the sites rules/ TOS. Maybe your account should even be terminated? Either way if everyone were just posting the same dribble ad infinitim, there would be nothing gained here.

Im guessing it bothers you alot, that this ailing liberal site is being exposed to so much truth and whats in the hearts of most americans.

HEROES AND TRUE AMERICANS flag and report kevin for abuse if he continues to spam here. TY & RECALL OBAMA IN 2010

Posted by: HughLai | April 4, 2010 6:56 PM | Report abuse

Everyone working will pay 17% more in TAX starting in Jan. after the ELECTION. No one will get over $2000 worth of Prescription at face value, not what you pay, but what they are worth. I have 1 that is $400 a Month. How about YOU? This Guy is so full of Crap His Eyes are Brown. LIAR!

Posted by: Tate | April 4, 2010 6:53 PM | Report abuse

WELCOME MOUTH-BREATHING DRUDGETARDS!

Q: What do Drudge, Limbaugh, Hannity, and Beck all have in common?

A: None of them could even graduate from college.

Yet you trust Drudge to control your information about economics and tax policy.

Think for yourselves Drudgetards!

Posted by: kevincondor0713 | April 4, 2010 6:52 PM | Report abuse

Someone commented that they don't know anyone who likes Obama. I have to disagree. The people who like Obama are just like him....IDIOTS!

Posted by: Atlas007 | April 4, 2010 6:51 PM | Report abuse

Someone commented that they don't know anyone who likes Obama. I have to disagree. The people who like Obama are just like him....IDIOTS!

Posted by: Atlas007 | April 4, 2010 6:49 PM | Report abuse


Notice how the few fuzzy minded leftists posting on this forum have absolutely nothing substantive to say. Logic, reason, and common sense are totally lacking in their lame attempts to denigrate and attack other posters. Terms such as the “right-wing fringe” “mouth-breathing drudgetards”, and other juvenile terms illustrate the left’s bankruptcy of ideas.

That their ideas are evil and have failed everywhere they have been tried does not stop them. Progressive ideologies have been responsible for millions of deaths worldwide. Yet these idiots continue to embrace these failed philosophies.

The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results.

A good book that describes the insanity of liberalism:
http://www.amazon.com/Liberal-Mind-Psychological-Political-Madness/dp/097795630X

These criminal’s game is up. They are in agony as they go through their final death throes. The American people are becoming aware of the evil of these people who recognize no moral absolutes and believe it is OK to steal from productive members of society to give to those too lazy or incompetent to provide for themselves.

Posted by: bill7021 | April 4, 2010 6:46 PM | Report abuse

All business owners should fire all blacks and barry X supporters. All doctors should refuse to treat the same.

Posted by: liberalsodomy | April 4, 2010 6:45 PM | Report abuse

WELCOME MOUTH-BREATHING DRUDGETARDS!

Q: What do Drudge, Limbaugh, Hannity, and Beck all have in common?

A: None of them could even graduate from college.

Yet you trust Drudge to control your information about economics and tax policy.

Think for yourselves Drudgetards!

Posted by: kevincondor0713 | April 4, 2010 6:43 PM | Report abuse

Obama = LOSER. Worse than Bush. Spends more and same amount of War and 3rd world jerks like Ahmedinijad and Hugo Chavez laugh at this jerk, and Castro approves of his illegal unconstitutional Health-care communist plan with NO OPT OUT.

NO OPT OUT = NO FREEDOM.

Period. End.

Posted by: mickrussom | April 4, 2010 6:43 PM | Report abuse

Collapse the system from our end. Do not allow state or federal governments to withhold any of your paychecks. Take 32 deductions. Don;t file tax returns. Buy silver and gold bullion with all of your savings and earnings and be ready for the clash of civilizations these communists are so set on. At least you and your family will be prepared. Time is running out.

Posted by: liberalsodomy | April 4, 2010 6:42 PM | Report abuse

Sounds like he's back on the weed. I sure hoped he could make it longer than this without backsliding.O well..

Posted by: willieshort | April 4, 2010 6:41 PM | Report abuse

I hope the Supreme court finds this healthcare fiasco of a bill unconstitutional and strike it down hard using the very same huge gavel Pelosi was walking around with!!

Posted by: jackal4 | April 4, 2010 6:41 PM | Report abuse

Hey kevincondor0713 - the following people didn't graduate from colege either. So, Drudge is in good company.
Bill Gates
Henry Ford
Steven Spielberg
Mark Zuckerberg, founder of Facebook
Michael Dell
Mary Kay Ash
John D. Rockefeller Sr. (first American Billionaire)
Whoopie Goldberg (Dropped out of high school)
There have been 25 Billionaires, 8 U.S. Presidents, 10 Nobel Prize Winners, 8 Olympic Medal Winners, 62 Oscar Winners, 55 Best-Selling Authors, 14 Presidential Medal of Freedom recipients (U.S.'s highest civilian honor) who dropped out of high school. So, tell me again why a college degree is so important?

Posted by: rangerrick3 | April 4, 2010 6:39 PM | Report abuse

"How did this greedy republican get in here?"

That's what Odrama really wanted to say.

This isn't big news because of the President's boring answer, we expect that kind of nausea-inducement odrama. The news was that odrama's goons let this lady into what was supposed to be a carefully scripted and controlled event. Heads are rolling today in Odramaland. The Overlord had to answer a question from someone other than one of his fluffers in the criminal media. And he doesn't like it, not one bit. Come to think of it, he doesn't take their questions either, except in - all together now - CAREFULLY SCRIPTED CIRCUMSTANCES. He's too precious and sensitive to take real questions from someone who isn't simultaneously slobbering all over him.

Drudge's headline is a nice "Happy Easter" to the malignant presence in the white house. I hope it ruined his day, he deserves it. He's a parasitic cancer, and frankly, so is anyone who still supports him. And most of them know it. Happy Easter.

Posted by: GregBuls1 | April 4, 2010 6:39 PM | Report abuse

WELCOME MOUTH-BREATHING DRUDGETARDS!

Q: What do Drudge, Limbaugh, Hannity, and Beck all have in common?

A: None of them could even graduate from college.

Yet you trust Drudge to control your information about economics and tax policy!

You guys put the "tard" in "Drudgetard."

Posted by: kevincondor0713 | April 4, 2010 6:38 PM | Report abuse

Why are Americans whining about paying taxes when nearly every address on Wall Street is borrowing taxpayer money at little or no interest and rather than captializing business is lending it back to the government at a higher interest rate? Is it the government who is stealing from you? Guess again!

Posted by: DeclineandFallofTheAmericanEmpire | April 4, 2010 6:38 PM | Report abuse

Jackal i will tell you what highway robbery is: Its the VAT, or national sales tax (10-15%????) on top of our existing tax burden, that the 'bi-partisan' presidential debt commission is going to reccommend early next year after the elections, all to pay for the GIANT SOCIALIST STATES OF AMERICA obama is creating, which health care apparently is only a small part of.

Posted by: HughLai | April 4, 2010 6:36 PM | Report abuse

what?

Posted by: shindiggy | April 4, 2010 6:36 PM | Report abuse

As voter I only have two questions to ask of any candidate.

1. Will you support the repeal and replace of Obama-care.

2. If it is proven that Obama offered Congressman Sestak's a cabinet postion if he would not run against Arlen Specter, D-Pa would you support impeachment of the president.

Posted by: neckcarjim | April 4, 2010 6:31 PM | Report abuse

KEVINCONDOR, what school did you flunk out of?
If education makes the Man, what happen to your precious president? He is an idiot of the first position, trying to break every economic priciple.
THE PREISDENCY SHOULD NOT BE AN AFFIRMATIVE ACTION POSITION.
Let's get the Man-Boy out, and put an Adult in.

Posted by: osamabinbiden | April 4, 2010 6:31 PM | Report abuse

WHY DID YOU SUPPRESS MY POST?

Posted by: gfm2010 | April 4, 2010 6:28 PM | Report abuse

I pay close if not over $1,000 a month in federal,state,local,fica and other taxes and now we'll be paying healthcare taxes;never mind that i already have healthcare coverage for myself and my family;if this is not highway robbery i don't know what is!!

Posted by: jackal4 | April 4, 2010 6:28 PM | Report abuse

17 minutes of BULL!
cause that all puppet Obama was hired to do
sell a different color of BULL
for us to swallow
if you can handle the truth Mr. Cruise
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8DQp0QxkBCU

Posted by: chinajoe6 | April 4, 2010 6:25 PM | Report abuse

Dear Mr. President,

Point #1) You're an Idiot
Point #2) You're a Fraud
Point #3) You're a Over-educated Loser

Got that?

Now get me some coffee and donuts, MORON!

And make it snappy you blabbering FOOL!

Posted by: dennisl591 | April 4, 2010 6:24 PM | Report abuse

Interesting psychological, if not to say psychiatric, phenomenon. Incapable of defending insane ridiculous Obama rant, his inability to answer a simple questions, libtards are attacking...Glenn Beck, Rush Limbough and Drudge! LOL!!! Even if all those vile things they said about them were true, how does it change Obama ridiculous incoherence?

Imagine if in response to the vile insane attacks libtards did on Bush for 8 years - Obama NEVER had to go through even 10% of that - Bush defenders would in turn attack OLbermann and Wolf Blitzer and Goraphalo! ROFLMAO! How ridiculous that would have been!

There is a subliminal message here. L1btards feel that Obama is is nothing but an incoherent rant producing machine. And rightly put him next to other professional "ranters". Too bad those guys are entertainers while Obama should be the President.

Posted by: pihto999 | April 4, 2010 6:23 PM | Report abuse

jmr012:"soon enough that these psychos will be in federal prison, the loony bin, or worse... until then, these cowards remain confined to a keyboard."


So the feds are going to go and lock up ALL the people in MA. for electing Scott Brown, who ran on such 'racist', 'loony' and 'right-winged facist state' themes, as 'i will be the 41st vote against health care' or that foreign terrorists dont deserve civilian trials???

Drink some more kool aid, and watch as the tea party SWELLS IN MASSES over people who are genuinely offended at being painted with a a racist brush FOR NO VALID REASON WHAT SO EVER.

Posted by: HughLai | April 4, 2010 6:22 PM | Report abuse

Thou protesteth overmuch, Mr. President. In your loquacious solicitousness, you reveal the truth!

Posted by: t_gwynn | April 4, 2010 6:20 PM | Report abuse

I read the post by Changemovingforward what a knucklehead. Most of the brothers and sisters are free loaders, that is why now jr can stay home until his mid 20's and be a deadbeat.
I believe in helping the helpless not the clueless!!

Notice Changemovingforward hates capitalism the same ideology that gave him the ability to post his garbage with a computer. Dude wake up one less bong hit in the morning!!

Posted by: Bubba7 | April 4, 2010 6:16 PM | Report abuse

Sometimes i asked myself:Why work at all?,why not just quit alltogheter and collect welfare,food stamps,free healthcare,section 8 housing,guaranteed student loans and other "goodies" provided bt tax pay..,i mean governmant?;hell maybe i'll be able to scam so much money out of the tax pay...,i mean governmant and buy me a brand new BMW!!

Posted by: jackal4 | April 4, 2010 6:15 PM | Report abuse

BTW, some of you right-wingers on here who say you own small businesses are just... I don't know... So bitter and violently angry. It must be a living nightmare for anyone who works for you. Hell, I would be scared to come into work! Maybe laying off people was the best thing you ever did for your employees. Maybe they can find employment with someone who treats people with respect and offers better benefits instead of horrible fringe political crap that you probably torment your employees with. I really shudder to think...

Worse, you get your economic figures from the right-wing propaganda machine. Try looking at figures from a group not allied with the right-wing. The sky is not falling like you think it is.

To any small business owners who show respect and give dignity to your employees and are genuinely in severe financial trouble (not people who are simply anti-Obama crazies) I offer my deepest sympathy and wishes that things improve for you very soon.

Posted by: jmr012 | April 4, 2010 6:14 PM | Report abuse

the name barack hussein obama will be the most hated name in the history of America if it is not already.

Posted by: liberalsodomy | April 4, 2010 6:12 PM | Report abuse

WELCOME MOUTH-BREATHING DRUDGETARDS!

Q: What do Drudge, Limbaugh, Hannity, and Beck all have in common?

A: None of them could even graduate from college.

Yet you trust Drudge to control YOUR information about economics and tax policy!

__________________________________________

kevincondor:

I hold two degrees, I am nowhere near as articulate and knowledgeable as Mr. Limbaugh, Mr. Beck or Mr. Hannity. I certainly didn't come up with the ingenious idea of a no frills website that is viewed by millions each day like Matt Drudge. Each of these men separately could buy and sell me many times over despite the fact I earn a healthy income. It was once said that a truly wise man is just as aware of what he doesn't know as what he does know. College degrees don't make you smarter sir, and given the fact your statement above alludes to the fact that it somehow does proves your ignorance whether you have a university diploma or not.

Posted by: Kazwell | April 4, 2010 6:07 PM | Report abuse

For a dumb libtard I sure have struck a cord in the minds of the uptight rightist, or racists.
I guess it’s hard to accept the flaws your parents have instilled in your being.
I also suppose opening up the oil fields is a liberal move. Keeping Mr. Geithner around is also a liberal plot. I personally would have rather sent him on a vacation in the nearest federal prison along with several of his banking buddies, but no one talks about that. Remember, Uncle George started the money giveaway program. Our liberal president just continued the money giveaway.
Remember the deregulation that has caused this large damn mess called recession was the idea of our last four presidents and congress. Oh yea Clinton did his share too.
You have a short memory, is it because you are too young or just too old, in need of some Alzheimer’s meds.
Yes I have a job and a home and I am a white guy that is disgusted with some of my peers. Half of you only have enough cash to ride out a short illness. The loss of income or job would cause you to loose your healthcare insurance. But you will whine how socialistic not letting the insurance companies cut you off is. How un-American it is to not let insurance companies say they won’t insure you if you have a pre-existing condition. How now the government is going to cut granny off with some death panel. Get a grip the insurance companies are still in control and will be for a long time to come and when granny is old and frail they are not going to allow the hart transplant operation. The government won’t have a damn thing to say about it.

Posted by: squalicum | April 4, 2010 6:06 PM | Report abuse

OK you GENIUS kevincondor, what is the combined overall wealth of the 4 college NON grads you so desparagingly attempted to demean and discredit (drudge/limbaugh/hannity/beck)? How about you compare them to any 4 avg college graduates in lifetime income and wealth generated? How about any 4 with a masters degree, or even doctorates??? Maybe they happen to know a little bit more about their respective fields THAN YOU DO!

Posted by: HughLai | April 4, 2010 6:06 PM | Report abuse

I guess this wasn't one of President Obama's "let me be clear" moments. So after all was said, did he answer her question?

Posted by: pinouye | April 4, 2010 6:00 PM | Report abuse

jmr012 you seem to be unable to read polls. Check out an accurate one and you will realize that it isn't the ones who are fed up with Obama who are the minority. That be you.

Posted by: nickel1951 | April 4, 2010 5:54 PM | Report abuse

jimlocke1 The lack of competition in the Congressional elections started back in the late 1960s when the politicans cooperated to get the state legislatures to gerrymander the Congressional districts so they could pick their voters and create virtually bulletproof districts for both parties. They euphmistically call them "safe" seats. Which means I can stay here forever and answer only to my special interests not to the public. I totally agree with your main point of we need to throw the ba$tards out in November. I also think we should make sure all 435 members of the House of Representatives have competitive campaigns. It is the gerrymandered seats that have combined with power being delagated by seniority made the Congress tilt so ultra liberal. The black caucus is just one example of a group who clearly need "safe" seats to keep their jobs. What a bunch of communist idiots.

Posted by: nickel1951 | April 4, 2010 5:48 PM | Report abuse

WELCOME MOUTH-BREATHING DRUDGETARDS!

Q: What do Drudge, Limbaugh, Hannity, and Beck all have in common?

A: None of them could even graduate from college.

Yet you trust Drudge to control YOUR information about economics and tax policy!

Posted by: kevincondor0713 | April 4, 2010 5:46 PM | Report abuse

dear jmr:

he's actively MAKING MY LIFE WORSE. He is taking wealth that I earn away from my family and giving it to someone else.

not trying, not hoping... he has taken approximately 6% more than the feds took last year.

And that's just healthcare.

So, I fired two people, and will remove about 15% less cancer this year.... and will only take about 3% hit.

Posted by: docwhocuts | April 4, 2010 5:44 PM | Report abuse

drudgefan I would like to add one addition to your list although not as important as the talking heads you named, the current White House reporter for NBC is a one credit short failure to graduate of a major in the french horn. The funny part of the story he was outed by his own MSNBC collegues on one of their FYI segments. Sorry I can't remember his name but obviously I never watch either NBC or MSNBC so I can't keep their group of propagandists straight. He is the one with the gottee and the sexy side kick on the new 9:00 am morning show. She I like.

Posted by: nickel1951 | April 4, 2010 5:41 PM | Report abuse

WELCOME MOUTH-BREATHING DRUDGETARDS!

Q: What do Drudge, Limbaugh, Hannity, and Beck all have in common?

A: None of them could even graduate from college.

Yet you trust Drudge to control YOUR information about economics and tax policy!

Posted by: kevincondor0713 | April 4, 2010 5:40 PM | Report abuse

@ jmr012

You're partially right: I have no respect for others who refuse to help themselves. Those who actually need help with health care are just a small fraction of the uninsured. The others are greedy, selfish, envious thieves. I have more respect for a bank robber than I do for those like you who support this garbage. The outcome is the same - force people at the point of a gun - but at least the bank robber takes the risks. You want the power of the government to do your dirty work.

It was Justice Oliver Wendell Holmes, Jr. who famously said, "My right to swing my fist ends at the tip of your nose." In other words, your rights end where my rights begin. More specifically, your right to "free" anything ends at the opening of my pocket, not inside. Keep your thieving hands off our money, and we'll be happy. You'll be happy, too, if you had more respect - for yourself!

Posted by: Sheila28 | April 4, 2010 5:40 PM | Report abuse

dear kevin:

should I trust the college graduate hank johnson?

he graduate law school too... should I trust him?

he thinks if we put too many troops on the island of guam, that it might tip over.

he REALLY thinks that... I watched him analyze it with my own eyes.... he was so proud of himself.

Is that who we should trust? Affirmative Action lawyers? is that who?

kevin? where are you?

Posted by: docwhocuts | April 4, 2010 5:38 PM | Report abuse

Congress has a less than 20% approval rating yet we re-elect 90% of them. Why is that? It's because we all have the attitude that "it's not MY representative that's the problem, it's YOUR representative." Ladies and Gentlemen: IT'S ALL OF THEM. We must vote out ALL incumbents, regardless! We need 1) national referendum; 2) term limits.

Posted by: jimlocke1 | April 4, 2010 5:36 PM | Report abuse

WELCOME MOUTH-BREATHING DRUDGETARDS!

Q: What do Drudge, Limbaugh, Hannity, and Beck all have in common?

A: None of them could even graduate from college.

Yet you trust Drudge to control YOUR information about economics and tax policy!

Posted by: kevincondor0713 | April 4, 2010 5:33 PM | Report abuse

jfwolfpack93-April 4, 2010-5:13 PM wrote: "The President and the Dems want to demonize someone..."

Case in point, Obama tells this lady her mother has lived too long and pallative care, which is end of life care, was all her mother and old people should expect from the healthcare system, and private insurance companies allow this injustice to go on to the harm of the country:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U-dQfb8WQvo

Obamacare intends to correct this misuse of valuable healthcare resources on old people that are bankrupting our country. Robert Reich in this clip demonizes old people for wanting to live:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IT7Y0TOBuG4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-9SPdh4Nzy4&feature=related

Posted by: larry22 | April 4, 2010 5:33 PM | Report abuse

Obviously, he could care less what "others" want; he does what he wants. But he's not doing anything he didn't say he would do, other than lie about some little things like earmarks. He says that the foreign aid other subsidies wouldn't save us much. Well, Barry, every little bit helps; that's what we common folk do, a little cut here and a little cut there. It adds up. Also, he mentions we're the only country that "allows 50 million of its citizens to not have any health insurance." On the contrary, we ALLOW them, they just don't want to pay for it or can't. However, they're not denied health CARE because they have no insurance. This guy has balls of steel, lying to our faces and stealing our grandchildren's money.

Posted by: jimlocke1 | April 4, 2010 5:32 PM | Report abuse

Hank Johnson
Hank Johnson
Hank Johnson

Google this idiot, a member of congress, and listen to him drag on about guam tipping over and sinking.

This is real, talking with a real admiral, all taped for posterity.

We have a knowledge gap in this country.

Somehow, we have to stop a) people like this from running, or b) the voters that vote for this sort of stupidity.

Really, you HAVE TO WATCH IT, he is not joking, he thinks he's solving the theory of gravity or something.

Posted by: docwhocuts | April 4, 2010 5:30 PM | Report abuse

The freeloaders and slackers are the only ones pleased with the passage of healthcare bill. But, now Obama's chickens are coming home to roost.

Posted by: Bodhisattva007 | April 4, 2010 5:28 PM | Report abuse

Thank God the hate-filled, bitter, angry closet racists who post vile comments on stories such as this one are marginalized. They are marginalized to the point that the general public knows they are at best disturbed, at worst, purely psychotic. They DO NOT represent the mainstream Americans.

These pathetic vermin are not patriots. They are bullies who do their best to destroy America in order to achieve some right-wing fascist state. There is no doubt about it. The right-wing psycho fringe HATE America. They are in NO WAY Christian. They are the base of domestic terrorist militias. They represent racism as an ideal and stupidity as a virtue.

They HATE it that we have a president who actually tries to improve peoples' lives. A president who came to office and immediately freed the nation of the tyranny that was Dubya. They are scared of a future where their evil, outdated views on society are completely eclipsed by those who care about issues and intelligently debate them. A world where Hitler mustaches and ridiculous signs are openly mocked and laughed at.

They have no respect for others. They CLEARLY have no respect for themselves. And frankly, from their diet of talk radio/Fox News hate and rhetoric, they can't even think for themselves! They truly believe that a majority of Americans worship Limbaugh, Beck, and Hannity while pole after pole and demographic reports show that such "entertainers" are widely despised by mainstream Americans.

Anyway, it won't be long until right-wing extremists are wiped away. The FBI and the Justice Department are cracking down on these freaks who live to bully and terrorize true patriotic, freedom loving Americans.

It will be soon enough that these psychos will be in federal prison, the loony bin, or worse. One fine day, we WILL be free from these seditious fools. Let's just be glad that until then, these cowards remain confined to a keyboard.

Posted by: jmr012 | April 4, 2010 5:28 PM | Report abuse

LOL at Obama bin Talkin bin Nonsense

Posted by: LIBSRCLOWNS | April 4, 2010 5:25 PM | Report abuse

The Healthcare plan is going to add taxes to medical device manufactures. Medical devices, like pacemakers will be taxed more. What does a pacemaker do? Does it extend life? If the answer is yes, then why would we tax devices which improve the quality of someone’s life or extend their life? Then my guess is they do not want these companies to keep reinvesting those R&D dollars to do this and this will reduce the average life expectancy and we reduce the healthcare costs for this country. Of course, again more taxes are being paid by someone else, a device company, and what is the American citizen getting out of it…nothing!

Posted by: jfwolfpack93 | April 4, 2010 5:24 PM | Report abuse

He's such an idiot. LOL

Posted by: izzyeddy | April 4, 2010 5:14 PM | Report abuse

His third point…”Point number three is that the way insurance companies have been operating.” I do not work for an insurance company and at times have been at odds with my insurance company. However, we always seem to work something out.
The President and the Dems want to demonize someone or something. During their debate on Healthcare, they always demonized the insurance companies. My relative, an internal medicine physician, pointed this out to me; how many Americans truly understand that your doctor can work with an insurance company, but Medicare is cut and dry. If a physician wants to try a new drug not covered on the insurance plan, the doctor can negotiate with them and it usually works out for the patient. However, if the physician tries to get Medicare to cover it, they will answer no and there is no negotiating. So, really who are worse, insurance companies or the federal government? Who takes more of the money you worked for, the insurance company or the federal government? When you pay at the pump, who takes $0.30-0.40 per gallon, the big oil companies or the federal government?
The woman was right, we are overtaxed and we listen to the President and the majority of the Federal government demonize another group (big oil, big insurance, big pharmaceutical, etc…). Wake up America, who is taking your money and what are you getting in return? Nothing! You will get no improvements with the healthcare, except for a larger federal government you will be asked to fund…taxes.

Posted by: jfwolfpack93 | April 4, 2010 5:13 PM | Report abuse

I wish the left wing PAID harassers would find a real job and pay real taxes!

Posted by: skiqsr | April 4, 2010 5:11 PM | Report abuse

Dear Leader has explicitly repudiated the Doctrine of Enumerated Powers. You know, his statement the constitution is a document of negative rights.. well, yeah, right!!
and, "the Warren Court wasn't really all that progressive"....hmmmmm
It's a DOCTRINE folks, i.e. "a principle of law established through past decisions" - Merriam-Webster Dictionary
Dear Leader's actions now demonstrate manifest compliance with that intent.
That is prima facie evidence he is daily violating the Presidential Oath of Office to uphold the constitution.
isn't the next step clear?

Posted by: maitre_premier | April 4, 2010 5:11 PM | Report abuse

Dear Leader has explicitly repudiated the Doctrine of Enumerated Powers. You know, his statement the constitution is a document of negative rights.. well, yeah, right!!
and, "the Warren Court wasn't really all that progressive"....hmmmmm
It's a DOCTRINE folks, i.e. "a principle of law established through past decisions" - Merriam-Webster Dictionary
Dear Leader's actions now demonstrate manifest compliance with that intent.
That is prima facie evidence he is daily violating the Presidential Oath of Office to uphold the constitution.
isn't the next step clear?

Posted by: maitre_premier | April 4, 2010 5:11 PM | Report abuse

truthlover -- your parody of a seething, bigoted, epithet-hurling race-baiting hate-mongering liberal zombie is spot-on.

Posted by: finsher771 | April 4, 2010 5:10 PM | Report abuse

As for the part about being "overtaxed", sounds like this teabagging nazi hatemonger extremist racist domestic terrorist spends too much time listening to Limbaugh, Glenn Beck, and Fox News!!

Posted by: truthlover | April 4, 2010 5:04 PM | Report abuse

Dear Messiah Obama-

I apologize that you had to endure the racist hate speech hurled at you by this right-wing nazi extremist teabagger who obviously wants to abolish all government. The wingnut nazis at the Post refer to her as a "woman", but my description is clearly more accurate. When will the domestic terrorists in the GOPnazi Party realize they will get nowhere by spitting and yelling racial insults at Obama as this rabid fanatical anti-government teabagging hatemongering violence-inciting "woman" did.

You deserve the Nobel Prize for your answer. It was sheer genius!!

Posted by: truthlover | April 4, 2010 5:02 PM | Report abuse

It sounds to me like the scientists who created the O-Robot need to hit Ctrl-Alt-Del and reboot that sucker before he has a complete meltdown.

Posted by: Terrie314 | April 4, 2010 4:59 PM | Report abuse

It was either a 17 minute 2500 word diatribe, or a short, honest "Yes I know. I don't care." He could even have sounded way cool with a "Frankly Scarlett, I don't give a damn." It all means the same. He doesn't care what we have to pay to get to his Marxist nirvana.

Posted by: clayusmcret1 | April 4, 2010 4:59 PM | Report abuse

Thank you Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. for understanding how our Legal Republic works and using it to free people.

Dr. King is what a true leader is all about and is what our Republic is lacking today. Our Republic is seldom in use today. In our U.S. Constitution the Majority is limited, under our written Constitution, thus safeguarding the rights of The Individual and The Minority.

Our Republic versus a democracy, the very opposite of our U. S. and each of our State's Republics. All you hear today from the uneducated is this "in our democracy"

It's...NOT a democracy. When I hear a congressman or others say that it hurts me to know they are uneducated.

If we didn't live in a Republic but rather in a democracy, then Dr. King wouldn't be able to do what he did. People, do you really want to give up our Republican form of Government and our Legal Constitution for the will of the majority?

This is about a legal matter, not about a birth certificate or being a born citizen. It is about our U. S. Constitution being selectively enforced. The dual Citizen(?), obama's legal authority to be President of the United States. You have to be a Constitutional Natural Born Citizen to be President of the United States. He is not legal.

SCOTUS 88 U.S. 162 Minor v. Happersett Argued: February 9, 1875 --- Decided: March 29, 1875 "The Constitution does not, in words, say who shall be a Natural Born citizens. Resort must be had elsewhere to ascertain that. At common-law, with the nomenclature of which the framers of the Constitution were familiar, it was NEVER DOUBTED that all children born in a ountry of PARENTS who were it's CITIZENS became themselves, upon their birth, citizens also. These were Natural Born citizens, as distinguished from aliens or foreigners."

Every Congress man, every judge, every person who took and oath or affirmed to uphold the U.S. Constitution but didn't, will be shown to be a traitor to the United States and our U.S. Constitution. That includes George W. Bush, Dick Cheney, my own Republican Congress men and all the State governors of their Republics. Because Obama is not a Natural Born Citizen!

Live links to real source records on my web page. Not what fool talking heads or straw man left of center Fox feeds you.

For true source records not taken out of context. http://homepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~texdick/obama.htm


Posted by: texdix | April 4, 2010 4:52 PM | Report abuse

WHO KILLED DONALD YOUNG?

The 47-year-old gay friend of Obama was killed by multiple gunshots in Chicago during December, 2007 for "knowing too much" about the Messiah. (Google and read about it.)

If this murder were properly investigated, you might see a Chicago thug leaving the White House in handcuffs.

One can only HOPE.

Posted by: Garland1 | April 4, 2010 4:49 PM | Report abuse

What a great thing if the muslim obummer just keeled over and dropped. That would be justice. We need to be rid of him.

Posted by: chatelain | April 4, 2010 4:47 PM | Report abuse

It's amazing, isn't it, that Barack Obama would probably still be a little known Illinois state senator if not for Ray LaHood and the other members of the Republican cabal that forced Peter Fitzgerald out of the 2004 Senate race? Not so amazing that LaHood is in Obama's Cabinet.

Posted by: pseudo-intellectual | April 4, 2010 4:45 PM | Report abuse

Obama is insane.

If he wants European socialism, he can move there. The same goes for anyone else who wants that nonsense.

My advice: get out. Get out now.

Posted by: tarded2much | April 4, 2010 4:44 PM | Report abuse

Obama has sworn to get back to taxing at a 90% rate. He's well on his way.

Posted by: battleground51 | April 4, 2010 4:44 PM | Report abuse

Obama is insane.

If he wants European socialism, he can move there. The same goes for anyone else who wants that nonsense.

My advice: get out. Get out now.

Posted by: tarded2much | April 4, 2010 4:44 PM | Report abuse

EGO+OBAMA=EGOBAMA so FULL OF HIMSELF -- he's every bit as bad as Bush -- if not more so ...What a complete jackahole. I am SOOO ashamed I voted for him.

Posted by: aworkofmark | April 4, 2010 4:42 PM | Report abuse

As Obama likes to say, "I did not vote for it. Nor did I vote against it ... I voted "Present" during it.

Why did these democrats lie us into the Iraq war?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IH93UlGHBfk&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fFBl0fnMUVc&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S0f5u_0ytUs
"We begin with the common belief that Saddam Hussein is a tyrant and threat to the peace and stability of the region. He has ignored the mandate of the United Nations and is building weapons of mass destruction and the means of delivering them." - Sen. Carl Levin (D, MI), Sept. 19, 2002

"We have known for many years that Saddam Hussein is seeking and developing weapons of mass destruction." - Sen. Ted (Great Teabagger) Kennedy (D, MA), Sept. 27, 2002

"The last UN weapons inspectors left Iraq in October of 1998. We are confident that Saddam Hussein retains some stockpiles of chemical and biological weapons, and that he has since embarked on a crash course to build up his chemical and biological warfare capabilities. Intelligence reports indicate that he is seeking nuclear weapons..." - Sen. Robert Byrd (D, WV), Oct. 3, 2002

"One way or the other, we are determined to deny Iraq the capacity to develop weapons of mass destruction and the missiles to deliver them. That is our bottom line." - (The Teabag) President Clinton, Feb. 4, 1998

"If Saddam rejects peace and we have to use force, our purpose is clear. We want to seriously diminish the threat posed by Iraq's weapons of mass destruction program." - President Clinton, Feb. 17, 1998

Iraq is a long way from [here], but what happens there matters a great deal here. For the risks that the leaders of a rogue state will use nuclear, chemical or biological weapons against us or our allies is the greatest security threat we face." - Madeline Albright, Feb 18, 1998

Posted by: larry22 | April 4, 2010 4:40 PM | Report abuse

With numerous snide references to Obama's allegedly inappropriate "inside-the-Beltway" jargon ("FICA"? appears on every pay stub) it's obvious this is a biased, anti-Obama article from the jump. Designed to stoke the anger of the masses, for what ulterior purpose right now we mere mortals can only speculate (probably to deflect it permanently from those who really deserve it--i.e., Bush and his thieving cohorts.) If you think Obama really is the one bringing the pain to America you weren't paying attention the last 9 years . Back in the Bush era, disloyalty to the President brought instant accusations of treason from the Exec branch, why not the same thing today?? Answer: Because Obama's not a wannabe dictator--Bush was. Shill this.

Posted by: FatherMancinisCorner | April 4, 2010 4:38 PM | Report abuse

Affirmative action.

Posted by: vjclarke | April 4, 2010 4:37 PM | Report abuse


milesteg | April 2, 2010 6:44 PM wrote: “I used to think there were valid concerns about health care from a conservative perspective. But then the Tea Party happened - a group of furious, primitive, misinformed, obnoxious, lower-upper-middle-class white people spitting random invective - Socialist, Communist, Fascist.”

Written like a typical ACORN troll. How much are you getting paid to type standard idiotic progressive talking points?

Using big words like “CONFLATING”. Do you even know what the word means? If you did, you would know that this is what the left wing media does. There is no such thing as objective journalism in left wing rags like the Washington Post and the New York Times.

So, since you are distressed by an article that paints your hero Obama in a somewhat negative light, just what is it about your messiah that you agree with?

Is it his racist hatred for America? Do you share his desire to destroy the economy and the middle class in this country? Or do you just not care what happens to this once great nation as long as you get your handouts? You describe the tea party as “white people spitting random invective” (another big word that you probably don’t know the meaning of). Are you one of the ghetto blacks that have fathered multiple children out of wedlock but support none of them? Is this the reason you feel the need to steal from productive members of society?

Make no mistake, your progressive ideas are evil and will be resisted by the honest, hardworking Americans you describe as the Tea Party.

If you had the intelligence to research this movement instead of having your mushy brain filled at the Huffington Post, you would realize that this is a true grass roots movement by Americans of all ages, races, religions, and political affiliations. Their common beliefs are small government, low taxes, adherence to the Constitution.

Posted by: bill7021 | April 4, 2010 4:37 PM | Report abuse

Washington Post you used to be a newspaper. What happened? 17 Minutes....big deal. All those who complained where quite happy when Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeild and their ilk gave short answers to big questions - like where's the WMD's, why's Haliburton getting rich and America's getting poor. I am tired these do nothings who have plenty of time to scour the internet and spread their racist venom. Grow up - you lost, America Won! Devote some real energy to helping your neighbor, get mad at the banks, wonder why every developed country in the world cares more about its citizens(healthcare) and for goodness sake act civil. I don't think you can do it, because its easy to hide in the shadows and throw darts. It's hard to get out and do the right thing like this administration. How's that "hopey/changey thing" workin'? Pretty darn good!!! By the way WAPO, will be canceling my subscription and sending the money to the DNC, they seem to make better use of it.

Posted by: ThePBear | April 4, 2010 4:30 PM | Report abuse

@diakrite
"yeah, got it, you repubs hate Obama..now move on, nothing to see here..."

Just because some disagree with his politics, policies, hate what he does to their country, and isn't an Obama sycophant like you doesn't mean they hate him--well on second thought maybe they do.

Posted by: hddesign74 | April 4, 2010 4:30 PM | Report abuse

It appears my cut and paste is not working! I proof my submissions, and they don't contain the deletions/corrections I've made.

Sorry, for the errors.

Posted by: 1marg | April 4, 2010 4:21 PM | Report abuse

It is so refreshing to have an intelligent and well spoken President that unites the country.

Posted by: jymerk | April 4, 2010 4:19 PM | Report abuse

The Rhetoric is called "Baffling with bullsheite." The difference from the western version is per Obamas muslim faith.

Posted by: IdahoSpud | April 4, 2010 4:19 PM | Report abuse

I believe mr. obama can speak passionately from the heart when he is talking addressing people he is giving money to.

Obama sputters, stutters, stammers and repeats when he has to talk to those he is stealing from.

The man is really clueless about what it takes to earn a living outside of the government. Any bets he has never balanced a checkbook?

Posted by: 1marg | April 4, 2010 4:18 PM | Report abuse

17 minutes?!! To answer a comment.

The Gettysburg Address was beautiful and concise and only 2 minutes long.

Another Lincoln this man is not...

Posted by: caper29 | April 4, 2010 4:14 PM | Report abuse

yeah, got it, you repubs hate Obama..now move on, nothing to see here...

Posted by: diakrite | April 4, 2010 4:12 PM | Report abuse

yeah, got it, you repubs hate Obama..now move on, nothing to see here...

Posted by: diakrite | April 4, 2010 4:11 PM | Report abuse

WOW ! Obama's 17 minute BS story is enough to make even Barney Frank gag...assuming he still has a gag reflex.

Posted by: nerfys | April 4, 2010 4:11 PM | Report abuse

Obama is going to reduce health care costs by boring us to death.

Posted by: george39 | April 4, 2010 4:09 PM | Report abuse

If you have noticed over the years that the dictators of foreign lands will talk for hours to their people and that these speaches or ravings will be the only thing heard over national media. Even at United Nations meetings these dictators will rant and rave for hours upon hours, but they do it with out teleprompters, therefore the stumble and wonder as does our president. If not using a telepromter, Mr. Obama will give and answer and then correct the answer with just the opposite line of thought (if there were any thought involved to begin with). He may be our president and we should respect him and pray for him always, but he sure makes it hard and unbearable at times. It is the folks that control him in the background that are making all the decissions.

Posted by: pafaery | April 4, 2010 3:59 PM | Report abuse

jmr012 asked the following question, among a series of other highly polemical and bizarre statements: "WE ARE FINALLY FREE AGAIN UNDER OBAMA. Why don't more people argue this point?"

Well, jmr012, one answer is simply that most people are not completely out of their minds.

Now, that is a general answer. They know it is NOT true. But let me be a bit more specific.

Another answer is that when the federal government mandates that you to buy a product (healthcare insurance) or you will be fined, you are less free than when the federal government did not do that (e.g., a few weeks ago).

Yet another answer is that when the President of the United States intentionally lies, or hides critical information from the American people about what his intentions are with respect to legislation we are going to be governed by, all of us are thereby less free.

For example, Obama made a point during the Democrat primaries by attacking Hillary Clinton's healthcare plan because it contained a mandate.

He said over and over that his program would not contain a mandate. He was lying to gain political advantage. The proof is that he just signed a bill containing just such a mandate. He knew he was lying when he said that.

We are less free under Obama.

Posted by: TrochilusTales | April 4, 2010 3:59 PM | Report abuse

The Short Answer

Long answer - 17 minutes. Short answer three words - WE ARE SCREWED.

Posted by: Rico00 | April 4, 2010 3:57 PM | Report abuse

Thanks, Kevin, for the warm welcome. Let's consider the education "credentials" of past and present mainstream news folks you may like. Peter Jennings was a 10th grade dropout, and never earned so much as a high school diploma. Dan Rather earned a degree from Sam Houston State, before dropping out of law school. Tom Brokaw dropped out of the University of Iowa, but eventually earned a degree from the University of South Dakota. Brian Williams never received a college degree of any kind, but he did intern for Jimmy Carter (as did Chris Matthews). And, Walter Conkrite never received a college degree (which makes you wonder why anyone ever listened to him). As a group, impressive!

Posted by: drudgefan | April 4, 2010 3:54 PM | Report abuse

Obama has never graduated from any college. He can't produce any diploma's, degree's etc. This man is a total fraud.

The Bernie Madoff of Politics.

When are people going to wake up, this whole thing has been a scam on the people.

The voters have been swindled. He's not even born here. He refuses to prove it. Just like a good con-man in business. Just buy more time each and everytime someone ask's you for some documentation.

YOU'VE ALL BEEN SWINDLED BY THIS CON-MAN.

I wonder if we can call the Police and have Obama arrested?

Posted by: flynny | April 4, 2010 3:52 PM | Report abuse

It's common knowledge that minus his pre-programmed teleprompters that Obama is a babbling idiot. Recall that he couldn't even show up at a grammar school without his ubiquitous teleprompters. Congressman Paul Ryan made Obama look silly and confused at the faux health care summit. The best that Obama could offer was an angry response that they would hold that discussion for another day. We're still waiting. What a National disgrace. Greg Neubeck

Posted by: gneubeck | April 4, 2010 3:42 PM | Report abuse

Obama’s Nonexistent Career as Law Professor

Some say that Barack Hussein Obama's only qualifications are his skin color, a Muslim name that specifically recalls two prominent enemies of America, and hard-left political views that he usually knows enough to gloss over when the wrong people are listening — all of which endear him to the liberal elite ruling class that installed him in power. But "community organizer" — i.e., Marxist rabble-rouser — isn't the only job title on his resume. He also taught law at the University of Chicago.

Obama's past is shrouded in secrecy, but we do have some hearsay about his law-teaching days, via Doug Ross:

I spent some time with the highest tenured faculty member at Chicago Law a few months back, and he did not have many nice things to say about "Barry." Obama applied for a position as an adjunct and wasn't even considered. A few weeks later the law school got a phone call from the Board of Trustees telling them to find him an office, put him on the payroll, and give him a class to teach. The Board told him he didn't have to be a member of the faculty, but they needed to give him a temporary position. He was never a professor and was hardly an adjunct.

The other professors hated him because he was lazy, unqualified, never attended any of the faculty meetings, and it was clear that the position was nothing more than a political stepping stool. According to my professor friend, he had the lowest intellectual capacity in the building. He also doubted whether he was legitimately an editor on the Harvard Law Review, because if he was, he would be the first and only editor of an Ivy League law review to never be published while in school (publication is or was a requirement).


Apparently the Harvard Law Review position was an Affirmative Action appointment awarded to him to give liberals an opportunity to congratulate themselves, much like the position he holds now.

Not only was Hopey McChange never a law professor, at this point he isn't even a lawyer, having surrendered his license to practice law possibly to escape trouble over false information on his bar application. His Bitter Half isn't a lawyer anymore either. They're in good company, by liberal standards; Bill Clinton was forced to give up his law license too. It's nice to see the profession is maintaining some standards.

We may never know how the Manchurian Moonbat got bumped up the ladder to the top rung so fast, but it's becoming increasingly obvious that it wasn't on the strength of legitimate qualifications.

On a tip from Edward. Hat tip: Gateway Pundit. Cross-posted at Moonbattery.
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Posted by: liberalsodomy | April 4, 2010 3:40 PM | Report abuse


jmr012 | April 4, 2010 3:09 PM wrote: “WE ARE FINALLY FREE AGAIN UNDER OBAMA. Why don't more people argue this point?”

Absolutely stunning. Proof positive that a mind is a terrible thing to waste. One of the most immoral statements I’ve had the displeasure to read.

Why don’t you just say what you mean? The worthless, lazy, non-productive entitlement leeches of society are now “free” to steal the property of those who produce. Obama’s criminal Communist wealth re-distribution scheme appeals to you, does it?

Have you ever asked yourself who you will steal from after Obama has destroyed the economy and those productive members of society who provide your handouts?

Posted by: bill7021 | April 4, 2010 3:40 PM | Report abuse

Repeal Barry Soetoro in November. Like a Gray Davis recall. Barry does not deserve any more time to turn the United States into Venezuala. This is exactly what he is up to. A plain idiot can see this. He has got to go. Barry Hussien want's to be our Dictator for life. This guy is really dangerous and disgusting. Smart my A**! It's called narcissistic paranoid delusional disorder. This guy cant even give a speech from the heart. When this guy gets backed into a corner by the Republicans in November watch out people. I would not be surprised if Barry tries a "coup de ta" with the U.S. military to try to retain majority powers for the marxist revolution that's taking place right in front of us......

Posted by: flynny | April 4, 2010 3:40 PM | Report abuse

Electing this pig to the WH is the single greatest mistake ever committed by the American people. His administration is nothing less than a threat to the vitality and survival of this glorious nation. An incompetent empty-suit ideologue, this animal must be removed in 2012.

Posted by: DCer1 | April 4, 2010 3:31 PM | Report abuse

WE ARE FINALLY FREE AGAIN UNDER OBAMA. Why don't more people argue this point? Posted by: jmr012


Free at last ! Free at last! Thank Barry Obama, we are free at last !

Don't you people have something better to do on this glorious Easter Sunday ?

Posted by: Buster88 | April 4, 2010 3:28 PM | Report abuse

Clearly Obama is full of it.

Pathological narcissism; absolutism based around a radical, warped, and immoral ideology; lack of qualifications (let's face it, Obama and Pelosi and Reid and the gang couldn't pass a basic high-school economics course); tone deafness; and an insatiable hunger for absolute control over other people -- these things do not make for a good US president.

And the two or three braindead zombie shill liberals chiming in here are full of crap. Got Rush Limbaugh and Matt Drudge obsession? Look at squalicum and kevincondor0713 (squalicum accuses Limbaugh of "racism" solely because of the "magic negro" allusion which actually was coined by a liberal writer -- what an ignoramus); these scurrying lib shills with their regurgitated spew and endlessly recycled name-alteration and ABSOLUTELY NOTHING ELSE TO OFFER -- they are complacent in the misapprehension that THEY are smarter than everyone. Yep, it's sort of amusing.

Posted by: finsher771 | April 4, 2010 3:28 PM | Report abuse

Graduation from college means nothing these days since the requirements have been watered down so much.

Liberal takeover of the universities has created a strikingly large number of uneducated, degreed people in the U.S.A.

And look at all the people with doctorates who can't add or speak well, but do know how to scam the system.

Posted by: 1marg | April 4, 2010 3:28 PM | Report abuse

Why is it that all Marxist are compelled to talk for hours on end?

Posted by: chisum | April 4, 2010 3:25 PM | Report abuse

"Obama's 17-minute, 2,500-word response to woman's claim of being 'over-taxed'"

aka: A Teleprompter Malfunction.

Posted by: TeaPartyPatriot | April 4, 2010 3:24 PM | Report abuse


squalicum | April 4, 2010 1:35 PM wrote:
‘I see the problem is your living in denial. You are thriving on FOX NEWS talking heads, RUSH (Mr. Drug addict in the flesh) and the gang of propagandist artiest that are living behind the guise “I’m and entertainer.”
If Rush is not a racist how do you justify the use of the quote “Obama the magic negro.”’

This is a perfect example of a liberal mind which is unable to focus on the argument. Very similar to Obama’s unfocused, incoherent rambling all over the spectrum when a simple answer was called for.

The question concerns Obama’s suitability for the Office of the President of the United States and leader of the free world. It has absolutely nothing to do with “FOX News”, “Rush”, “Obama the magic negro”, or any other simple-minded, leftist diversion.

Given the facts that:
1. This president obviously cannot remain focused on a simple question concerning taxes,
2. This president is a known drug abuser – he admits to using both cocaine, crack cocaine, and marijuana,
3. This president’s mind has been terribly warped by sitting in an America hating church for 20 years,
4. This president is an emotionally unstable narcissist; probably caused by his being abandoned by both of his “fathers” and his emotionally unstable, promiscuous “mother”,
5. This president was exposed to Frank Marshall Davis, an admitted Communist, homosexual, and pedophile when he was a teenager,
6. This president spent his formative years in a Muslim school in Indonesia,
7. This president has said things such as “My Muslim faith” and “visited all 57 states”,
8. And many other well documented concerns.

To paraphrase my original question:

Are you comfortable that this mentally unstable person is now the President of the United States and leader of the free world and has his finger on the nuclear trigger?

Why can’t you just answer the question?

I am most certainly not comfortable with this and as you will see if you open your eyes, neither are most Americans.

Posted by: bill7021 | April 4, 2010 3:23 PM | Report abuse

Let us please report kevin for multiple repeated posts.

Note: einstein didn't finish college.

I'd trust einstein over obama on any issue any day.

Obama has proved one thing... a degree from harvard doesn't mean you're educated.

Posted by: docwhocuts | April 4, 2010 3:22 PM | Report abuse

Am I the only one who thinks this coon isn't going to make it? I guess soros and axelrod will have to tighten the leash on sammy davis jr for the foreseeable future.

Posted by: liberalsodomy | April 4, 2010 3:21 PM | Report abuse


I noticed that President Obama took a long time answering that question, and found what he had to say interesting and helpful. We certainly will be getting a lot for the work and money we will be putting into health care reform

Posted by: bvro | April 4, 2010 3:20 PM | Report abuse

Once again the President impressed us with his listening ability. He went into his usual preplanned dialog and completely ignored the question. If you noticed, nowhere in his 17 minute rant did he answer the question posed about over-taxation. Is he deaf or what? Maybe in November he will learn to listen to the voters and their concerns over the Democratic Party bullying, government takeovers, and disregard for the Constitution.

Posted by: bdemonte1 | April 4, 2010 3:19 PM | Report abuse

See? Kevin couldn't do it!

What a loser.

Posted by: dinglish | April 4, 2010 3:18 PM | Report abuse

WELCOME MOUTH-BREATHING DRUDGETARDS!

Q: What do Drudge, Limbaugh, Hannity, and Beck all have in common?

A: None of them could even graduate from college.

Yet you trust Drudge to control YOUR information about economics and tax policy!

Posted by: kevincondor0713 | April 4, 2010 3:14 PM | Report abuse

Thank you Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. for understanding how our Legal Republic works and using it to free people.

Dr. King is what a true leader is all about and is what our Republic is lacking today. Our Republic is seldom in use today. In our U.S. Constitution the Majority is limited, under our written Constitution, thus safeguarding the rights of The Individual and The Minority.

Our Republic versus a democracy, the very opposite of our U. S. and each of our States Republics. All you hear today from the uneducated is this "in our democracy"

It's...NOT a democracy. When I hear a congressman or others say that it hurts me to know they are uneducated.

If we didn't live in a Republic but rather in a democracy, then Dr. King wouldn't be able to do what he did. People, do you really want to give up our Republican form of Government and our Legal Constitution for the will of the majority?

This is about a legal matter, not about a birth certificate or being a born citizen. It is about our U. S. Constitution being selectively enforced. The dual Citizen(?), obama's legal authority to be President of the United States. You have to be a Constitutional Natural Born Citizen to be President of the United States. He is not legal.

SCOTUS 88 U.S. 162 Minor v. Happersett Argued: February 9, 1875 --- Decided: March 29, 1875 "The Constitution does not, in words, say who shall be a Natural Born citizens. Resort must be had elsewhere to ascertain that. At common-law, with the nomenclature of which the framers of the Constitution were familiar, it was NEVER DOUBTED that all children born in a ountry of PARENTS who were it's CITIZENS became themselves, upon their birth, citizens also. These were Natural Born citizens, as distinguished from aliens or foreigners."

Every Congress man, every judge, every person who took and oath or affirmed to uphold the U.S. Constitution but didn't, will be shown to be a traitor to the United States and our U.S. Constitution. That includes George W. Bush, Dick Cheney, my own Republican Congress men and all the State governors of their Republics. Because Obama is not a Natural Born Citizen!

Live links to real source records on my web page. Not what fool talking heads or straw man left of center Fox feeds you.

For true source records not taken out of context. http://homepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~texdick/obama.htm

Posted by: texdix | April 4, 2010 3:13 PM | Report abuse

Obama's starting to crack. I wonder if there's going to be any doctors left to treat him after this health care bill kicks in...

Posted by: blue9 | April 4, 2010 3:12 PM | Report abuse

BHO: Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. What? You don't understand? Boy, conservatives sure are dumb."

BHO (thinking: "Where's my speechwriter and teleprompter? Quick, somebody find them before everyone realizes how dumb I really am.

While you're at it, make sure my college records are still hidden."

Posted by: 1marg | April 4, 2010 3:11 PM | Report abuse

Hey, Kevin:

Did you graduate college? If not, shut up. If so, then get past your parrot-like repetition and address the point of the article, if you can.

Posted by: dinglish | April 4, 2010 3:11 PM | Report abuse

Funny as hell, you cannot find this article but in one place... posted on drudge.

Wapo has removed just about any internal link to it.

Great article though. Dim-witted president and his dim response to easy question.

Posted by: docwhocuts | April 4, 2010 3:10 PM | Report abuse

Why aren't more people responding to the "take away liberties" rhetoric?

It was under DUBYA that we had an imperial presidency. It was under DUBYA that we had uncontrolled wiretaps and invasions of privacy. It was under DUBYA that there was talk of postponing the 2004 presidential election in case of an "attack." It was DUBYA who abused the terrorist threat warning levels to scare people into submission to his radical right-wing government. It was DUBYA who had rally participants severely screened and bussed into his rallies to make sure he always had a partisan audience thus silencing opposing viewpoints. It was DUBYA who sent local TV stations political propaganda in the form of "news stories." It was DUBYA who manipulated the nation into the disastrous Iraq war causing over 4000 Americans not just to lose their "liberty" but their very lives.

LET'S FACE IT!. We darn near LOST ALL our freedoms under DUBYA! The right-wing, tea-bagging, bitter, middle-aged white closet racists don't give a CRAP about freedom. They just want the nation to subject itself to the extremist-right fringe ideology that they insanely adhere to.

WE ARE FINALLY FREE AGAIN UNDER OBAMA. Why don't more people argue this point?

Posted by: jmr012 | April 4, 2010 3:09 PM | Report abuse

I guess he only believes that only he should have the right to filibuster -- not the Senate.

Posted by: otbros | April 4, 2010 3:09 PM | Report abuse

Does any working white person want to be part of this "country" anymore?

Posted by: liberalsodomy | April 4, 2010 3:04 PM | Report abuse

Thank you Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. for understanding how our Legal Republic works and using it to free people. Dr. King is what a

true leader is all about and is what our Republic is lacking today. Our Republic is seldom in use today. In our U. S. Constitution the

Majority is limited, under our written Constitution, thus safeguarding the rights of The Individual and The Minority.

Our Republic versus a democracy, the very opposite of our U. S. and each of our States Republics. All you hear today from the

uneducated is this "in our democracy" ...NOT a democracy. When I hear a congressman or others say that it hurts to know they are

uneducated.

If we didn't live in a Republic but rather in a democracy, then Dr. King wouldn't be able to do what he did. People, do you really want

to give up our Republican form of Government and our Legal Constitution for the will of the majority?

This is about a legal matter, not about a birth certificate or being a born citizen. It is about our U. S. Constitution being selectively

enforced. The dual Citizen(?), obama's legal authority to be President of the United States. You have to be a Constitutional Natural

Born Citizen to be President of the United States. He is not legal.

SCOTUS 88 U.S. 162 Minor v. Happersett Argued: February 9, 1875 --- Decided: March 29, 1875 "The Constitution does not, in

words, say who shall be a Natural Born citizens. Resort must be had elsewhere to ascertain that. At common-law, with the

nomenclature of which the framers of the Constitution were familiar, it was NEVER DOUBTED that all children born in a country of

PARENTS who were it's CITIZENS became themselves, upon their birth, citizens also. These were Natural Born citizens, as

distinguished from aliens or foreigners."

Every Congress man, every judge, every person who took and oath or affirmed to uphold the U.S. Constitution but didn't, will be

shown to be a traitor to the United States and our U.S. Constitution. That includes George W. Bush, Dick Cheney, my own

Republican Congress men and all the State governors of their Republics. Because Obama is not a Natural Born Citizen!

Live links to real source records on my web page. Not what fool talking heads or straw man left of center Fox feeds you. For true

source records not taken out of context. http://homepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~texdick/obama.htm

Posted by: texdix | April 4, 2010 3:02 PM | Report abuse

kevincondor0713 wrote on April 4, 2010 at 2:09 PM:

>
> WELCOME MOUTH-BREATHING DRUDGETARDS!
>
> Q: What do Drudge, Limbaugh, Hannity, and Beck all have in common?
>
> A: None of them could even graduate from college.
>
> Yet you trust Drudge to control YOUR information about economics and tax
> policy!


Your mom goes to college

Posted by: Buster88 | April 4, 2010 3:00 PM | Report abuse

If Rush is not a racist how do you justify the use of the quote “Obama the magic negro.”

Posted by: squalicum

-------------

Hey libtard...it was a LIBERAL from the LA Times that used that phrase...and you of course would know that if you actually listened to Rush at all.

You really need to stop getting your "news" from the Daily KOS idiot.

Posted by: sb2288 | April 4, 2010 2:58 PM | Report abuse

Thank you Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. for understanding how our Legal Republic works and using it to free people. Dr. King is what a true leader is all about. People like Dr. King is what our Republic is lacking today.

Our Legal Republic is seldom in use today. In our U. S. Constitution in our Republic, the Majority is limited, under our written Constitution, thus safeguarding the rights of The Individual and The Minority. Our Legal Republic is seldom in use today. In our U. S. Constitution in our Republic, the Majority is limited, under our written Constitution, thus safeguarding the rights of The Individual and The Minority. Our Republic versus a democracy, the very opposite of our U. S. and state Republics. All you hear today from the uneducated is in our democracy...NOT!

This is about a legal matter, not about a birth certificate or being a born citizen. It is about our U. S. Constitution being selectively enforced. The dual Citizen(?), obama's legal authority to be President of the United States. You have to be a Constitutional Natural Born Citizen to be President of the United States. He is not legal.

SCOTUS 88 U.S. 162 Minor v. Happersett Argued: February 9, 1875 --- Decided: March 29, 1875 "The Constitution does not, in words, say who shall be a Natural Born citizens. Resort must be had elsewhere to ascertain that. At common-law, with the nomenclature of which the framers of the Constitution were familiar, it was NEVER DOUBTED that all children born in a country of PARENTS who were it's CITIZENS became themselves, upon their birth, citizens also. These were Natural Born citizens, as distinguished from aliens or foreigners."

Every Congress man, every judge, every person who took and oath or affirmed to uphold the U.S. Constitution but didn't, will be shown to be a traitor to the United States and our U.S. Constitution. That includes George W. Bush, Dick Cheney, my own Republican Congress men and all the State governors of their Republics. Because Obama is not a Natural Born Citizen!

Live links to real source records on my web page. Not what fool talking heads or straw man left of center Fox feeds you. For true source records not taken out of context. http://homepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~texdick/obama.htm

Posted by: texdix | April 4, 2010 2:55 PM | Report abuse

kevincondor0713 wrote on April 4, 2010 at 2:09 PM:

>
> WELCOME MOUTH-BREATHING DRUDGETARDS!
>
> Q: What do Drudge, Limbaugh, Hannity, and Beck all have in common?
>
> A: None of them could even graduate from college.
>
> Yet you trust Drudge to control YOUR information about economics and tax
> policy!
_________________________

For the life of me, I can't understand the hate toward people who go to drudgereport.com. Drudgereport has links to news stories from many different webnews sites including ABC.com and MSNBC.com so what is the problem?

Posted by: Harlo | April 4, 2010 2:54 PM | Report abuse

"we have been, up until last week, the only advanced country that allows 50 million of its citizens to not have any health insurance"

"Allows" is the key word -- yes, we gave people that freedom. "Until last week" being the other salient phrase.

Posted by: mzieg | April 4, 2010 2:53 PM | Report abuse

WELCOME MOUTH-BREATHING DRUDGETARDS!

Q: What do Drudge, Limbaugh, Hannity, and Beck all have in common?

A: None of them could even graduate from college.

Yet you trust Drudge to control YOUR information about economics and tax policy!

Posted by: kevincondor0713 | April 4, 2010 2:48 PM | Report abuse

I wish the extremists on the right and left would stop with the threats and name calling. They only work to polarize the middle and the middle needs to realize that and distance themselves from them.

Posted by: Harlo | April 4, 2010 2:47 PM | Report abuse

kevincondor0713 wrote on April 4, 2010 at 2:09 PM:

>
> WELCOME MOUTH-BREATHING DRUDGETARDS!
>
> Q: What do Drudge, Limbaugh, Hannity, and Beck all have in common?
>
> A: None of them could even graduate from college.
>
> Yet you trust Drudge to control YOUR information about economics and tax
> policy!
>

We're supposed to trust someone who spent years in college being indoctrinated by Jewish Communist "professors"? No thanks!

Posted by: BoneDriver | April 4, 2010 2:45 PM | Report abuse

It is not his "ethnicity", nor is it is race or skin color.

He's an idiot.

He's a liar.

He's not qualified to run a jiffy-lube.

He's never been in charge of anything.

NOTICE TO ALL: the race baiters on this board, are all... 100% ALL democrats.

Place the race card?... then play the hand you were dealt.

Posted by: docwhocuts | April 4, 2010 2:44 PM | Report abuse

WELCOME MOUTH-BREATHING DRUDGETARDS!

Q: What do Drudge, Limbaugh, Hannity, and Beck all have in common?

A: None of them could even graduate from college.

Yet you trust Drudge to control YOUR information about economics and tax policy!

Posted by: kevincondor0713 | April 4, 2010 2:43 PM | Report abuse

My question is how is he getting crowds that are all Obama supporters? More then half the country disapprove of his job thus far and nearly half the country strongly disapprove. Yet stump event after stump event he gets cheers like he's a pop star. They seem like corporate propaganda events. It's insulting. Yet, sometimes one sneeks through...(in case you haven't seen it yet)

http://www.usateaparties.com

Posted by: USAteaparties | April 4, 2010 2:40 PM | Report abuse


.. It’s about his ethnicity that upsets the right wing zealots..Not that Mr. Obama is a centrist that he has shown himself to be. Not that he has made the White House the most transparent in a decade.. you the self-righteous right wing sheep are living in a state of.. fear with your prejudices that have been handed down to you from your family.


Posted by: squalicum | April 4, 2010 12:13 PM

And you are unable to do much critical thinking. If you presume to know our reasons for disliking what Obama is doing, can we presume that you like what he is doing because you're basically lazy and expect him to redirect other folks' wealth your way? Can we presume you're willing to overlook the fact that the stimulus and massive health care bill didn't get the promised 5 day period for scrutiny because you're basically dishonest when it serves your purpose? Can we presume that you brand him a centrist even when he's taken over sectors of our financial, insurance, manufacturing and now health care and student loan industry because you're too intellectually challenged to know the difference?

Please don't assign racist motivations to our objections to this Marxist in chief.

Posted by: yomomma1 | April 4, 2010 2:37 PM | Report abuse

kevincondor0713
WELCOME MOUTH-BREATHING DRUDGETARDS!
Q: What do Drudge, Limbaugh, Hannity, and Beck all have in common?
A: None of them could even graduate from college.
Yet you trust Drudge to control YOUR information about economics and tax policy!

Uh,... Kevin ....? You can stop making the same old worn out, hollow, BORING, and absurd LIBTARD accusation that we get our "facts" or policies from ANYONE on TV or radio!

We use something called "COMMON SENSE"!

AND YOU DON'T GET COMMON SENSE BY GOING TO COLLEGE!

You're either BORN with it or you're not!

And common sense says Barack Obama is an arrogant socialist who was elected by conceited incompetent DUMBASSES like YOU!

Posted by: bahowell | April 4, 2010 2:32 PM | Report abuse

Coming soon, the Value Added Tax. Obama will blame us because we threw a monkey wrench in his agenda, and now he pulls the VAT card and laughs at us.

Posted by: bboodry | April 4, 2010 2:28 PM | Report abuse

kevincondor0713,

Q: What do Drudge, Limbaugh, Hannity, and Beck all have in common?

A: They are all "commentators" routinely bashed by some on the left who are too intellectually challenged to understand the difference between a "commentator" and and a "news reporter".

I do not look to any of these four people as a primary source for news, but they are entertaining, and often more factual than any of their detractors. As for not graduating college...Obama graduated, and even taught college, and he has proven repeatedly to be nothing more than a "College Educated Idiot" incapable of imparting the simplest of information without a teleprompter.

Posted by: jonweiss1 | April 4, 2010 2:26 PM | Report abuse

An insufferable ass is an insufferable ass, of course, of course,
And no one can talk sense to an insufferable ass, of course
And especially, of course, if the insufferable ass is the famous Barack Obama.

Go right to the source and ask the insufferable ass.
He’ll give you the answer that Pinocchio will endorse.
He’s always on a dissemblers and deceivers course.
Talk to Barack Obama.

Barack Obama just yakkity yaks a streak and wastes your time of day
Does any sane person even believe anymore a single thing he has to say?

An insufferable ass is an insufferable ass, of course, of course,
And this one’ll talk in convoluted circles til his voice is hoarse.
You never heard of a talking insufferable ass?

Well listen to this.

He is Barack Obama.

Posted by: FeralCat1 | April 4, 2010 2:25 PM | Report abuse

We currently have an "Obamanation" . However, we will tale back out country in 2012. NOBAMA !!!!

Posted by: medsearch | April 4, 2010 2:24 PM | Report abuse

If Rush is not a racist how do you justify the use of the quote “Obama the magic negro.”

Posted by: squalicum

=====

Well... you just used the phrase; how do *you* justify having used it? By your own comments, you're obviously a racist since you used the term, correct?

Oh wait, you were just quoting someone else who used it, so that makes it OK, right?

Got it.

So, now that you know Limbaugh was quoting an LA Times writer who coined the phrase, you will of course have the intellectual honesty to admit that if you are not a racist while having used it, Rush is also not a racist for having used it.

Or, if you insist that Rush is a racist, you will of course admit that you are also a racist by virtue of the same reasoning.

Which is it, genius?

Posted by: Midas2000 | April 4, 2010 2:23 PM | Report abuse

Our country may be an "Obamanation" currently, but we shall take our country back in 2012! NOBAMA !

Posted by: medsearch | April 4, 2010 2:22 PM | Report abuse

Now Emperor Obama is hot on taking over health care
He’s made it his personal affair
Subservient lab rats and body parts you will all be
As he goose-stepped all over the Constitution, said he
‘Cause you see, anything that brings more control and power to me, you must all just grin and bare

Posted by: FeralCat1 | April 4, 2010 2:20 PM | Report abuse

WELCOME MOUTH-BREATHING DRUDGETARDS!

Q: What do Drudge, Limbaugh, Hannity, and Beck all have in common?

A: None of them could even graduate from college.

Yet you trust Drudge to control YOUR information about economics and tax policy!

Posted by: kevincondor0713 | April 4, 2010 2:20 PM | Report abuse

If ever there was a complete, utter fool in the White House, Barack Hussein (Buckwheat) Obama is it. He is too stupid to realize that his polling numbers are going down like the Titanic because the majority of Americans just flat don't like him.

Posted by: gottago3 | April 4, 2010 2:19 PM | Report abuse

For all the Obamabots who are trashing the critics of Obama, his answer did not answer anything, and one fact remains. If any taxes on anything are imposed to pay for this debacle of a health care plan, it will be a tax in everything. If people making more than $250K are taxed, and these people have anything to do with production of consumer products, those taxes will be passed on to the consumer. So, unless you are simply making less than $250k and NOT buying anything at all, you will be taxed to pay for this fiasco.

Posted by: jonweiss1 | April 4, 2010 2:17 PM | Report abuse

LISTENING TO THE DRUDGE BASHERS ON HERE IS DOWNRIGHT FUNNY

YOU GUYS AREN'T USED TO THE REAL FACTS COMING OUT ON YOUR IDIOT, ARE YOU?

WHAT YOU LIBTARDS WATCH NBC OR SOMETHING, THE TINGLE UP THE LEG STATION.............
THEY HIDE ALL THIS CRAZY FROM YOU LITTLE KIDS


THIS FREAK CAN'T SPEAK WITHOUT A TELEPROMPTER, SORRY MAKE THAT "TWO" EVEN WHEN HE SPEAKS TO 6TH GRADERS

AND NOW YOU KNOW WHY

HE IS A FREAKING IDIOT AND YOU BOYS DRANK THE KOOL-AID AND YOU GUYS ARE THE BUTTS OF THE JOKES NOW - AND YOU BETTER STRAP IN CAUSE YOU TAUGHT US HOW TO DEAL AND TREAT WITH PEOPLE THAT DON'T AGREE WITH US, AND YOU WHINY LIBERALS BETTER TOUGHEN UP...........

AND FINALLY THE WORLD IS SEEING WHAT DOLTS THE IDIOTS ARE, THEY THINK EVERYTHING THEY READ IN A BOOK WILL WORK IN REAL LIFE, SAD....WE ARE HEADED STRAIGHT TO THE DEPRESSION WITH YOUR IDIOT DRIVING THE TRAIN AND

TALKING TALKING TALKING TALKING TALKING

LIBTARDS YOUR FAMILIES ARE GOING TO BE RUINED WITH THIS CHICAGO FREAK LIKE EVERYONE ELSE,

THIS DEPRESSION ISN'T CHECKING YOUR VOTER ID CARD.............

Posted by: CATHERINE10000 | April 4, 2010 2:16 PM | Report abuse

To-day my 1461 Tage Reich I bake, to-morrow my 1461 Tage Reich I brew
The day after that my 1461 Tage Reich fully comes in
And oh! I will be so glad if beforehand not enough knew
That the name I am called is Adolfobamaskin!

Posted by: FeralCat1 | April 4, 2010 2:15 PM | Report abuse

This womans thinking was about the same as Joe -(The Plumbers}. Only difference was he was honest with Joe -(The Plumber) when he said he wanted to take the wealth and spread it around. With this woman he was trying to do The (Washington D.C. Democrat Turkey Two Step SpeakEase Dance} with 2700 words that were not a straight honest answer.

Posted by: jfc4419 | April 4, 2010 2:15 PM | Report abuse

IM surprised the federal government even allows Easter anymore

Posted by: wsaex | April 4, 2010 2:11 PM | Report abuse

WELCOME MOUTH-BREATHING DRUDGETARDS!

Q: What do Drudge, Limbaugh, Hannity, and Beck all have in common?

A: None of them could even graduate from college.

Yet you trust Drudge to control YOUR information about economics and tax policy!

Posted by: kevincondor0713 | April 4, 2010 2:09 PM | Report abuse

I have to wonder; After reading all of the posts here, why is it that the liberals, who repetatedly use the term "teabagger" (as well as other terms), seem so obsessed with terms referrring to sexual fetishism?

Terms that in much of the nation are still considered "Deviant Behavior".

Posted by: jonweiss1 | April 4, 2010 2:07 PM | Report abuse

This is what politicians do all the time. When they can't answer us truthfully they talk us in circles.

The truth is we are overtaxed and Obama couldn't agree with her because he and the Democrats are going to implement a VAT tax to pay for healthcare and as healthcare costs rise, so to will the VAT tax.

Throw them all out in November and vote only for those who will repeal ObamaCare and who will reverse all this government growth.

Posted by: Harlo | April 4, 2010 2:05 PM | Report abuse

If it is such a great healthcare plan, why does he have to sell it. The plan should speak for itself. Sounds like the old snake oil salesman.
It is full of tax increases. This will not reduce the deficit one penny. We are being lied to and it needs to stop. Wake up people. You Obama supporters are just plan stuck on stupid.

Posted by: Bubba7 | April 4, 2010 2:05 PM | Report abuse

One good thing to come out from all this is what the anti american traitorist democ rats really have in mind for america, and it sure as he** has nothing to do with helping the downtrodden, its more like trodding on people when they are already down.

Posted by: wsaex | April 4, 2010 2:05 PM | Report abuse

barry X, the abandoned b a s t a r d of an illicit union between a deranged, teen aged, communist w h o r e and malcolm X, has his instructions from london to permanently destroy America and her economy via debt, euthanize the greatest generation, demoralize her military via homosexuality and exhaust it in a wild goose chase in the "graveyard of empires", and disarm it via fiat. He does hate America, especially White America, and does love his works of treason and destruction. It is through this that all his actions may be understood.

I hope the military honors their oaths, steps up and eliminates this a s s h o l e. This son of a w h o r e is the walking definition of a "domestic enemy" and we won't sit still anymore for his treason.

NEVER EVER forget the mainstream media that conspired to foist this muslim nation wrecking b a s t a r d on America is responsible. They intentionally sold us this traitor.

The democratic soviet is comprised of 22% of the population (blacks, jews, queers, transgenders, communists, and abortionists) An amalgam of misfits tied together by nothing more than malevolent envy and hate for Property Rights and Natural Law.

This man is actively destroying an America he was raised to hate, is supported by communists in the media and must be neutralized for the good of all.

It should be considered that barry soetoro is a communist or muslim plant groomed to completely destroy America from within.

Do not let the federal or state governments withhold any of your salary. Convert all savings as they come in to silver and gold bullion. Let's expedite the inevitable, while at the same time looking out for our families. Let's collapse this system from our side.

Posted by: liberalsodomy | April 4, 2010 2:03 PM | Report abuse

Wow, 17 solid minutes of lies from that despicable communist s.o.b. Impressive!

Posted by: BoneDriver | April 4, 2010 2:02 PM | Report abuse

WELCOME MOUTH-BREATHING DRUDGETARDS!

Q: What do Drudge, Limbaugh, Hannity, and Beck all have in common?

A: None of them could even graduate from college.

Yet you trust Drudge to control YOUR information about economics and tax policy!

Posted by: kevincondor0713 | April 4, 2010 2:02 PM | Report abuse


Those still supporting this clown either have a mental deficiency that prevents them from being able to understand the issues, or they are hard-core leftists who don’t care if this country is destroyed as long as they get their entitlement “free stuff”.

Our country is becoming increasingly polarized. The enemy has been identified. We have been allowing this creeping evil to overtake our country since the flaming progressive Woodrow Wilson and his Federal Reserve. FDR and his “New Deal” continued the progressive infestation and prolonged the great depression. This country is now approaching a critical mass where it will be close to impossible to reverse this evil march toward a Communist state.

We now have criminal liberal activist judges ignoring the Constitution and legislating from the bench. We have a run-away legislature full of far left progressives that have nothing but contempt for the Constitution and the American people. We have an Executive branch full of Communist czars that are systematically attacking America’s institutions.

These criminals are aided and abetted by a left wing media, Hollywood traitors and subversives, and a system of “higher education” that is almost totally infested with those wanting to re-make America. Our youth are being brainwashed by progressive fools that have never held a real job. History is being re-written. Children in the lower grades are not being taught the principles that made America great.

We have a growing entitlement class who require government handouts. Those in the ghetto are trapped in a cycle of poverty. Obama plans to greatly increase this class by giving amnesty to illegal aliens and by destroying the middle class.

We must reverse this trend by becoming active at the grass roots level. Participate in the primaries. Expose the evil nature of the left wing message at every opportunity. Be aware of what is being taught in your children’s schools.

Do not enter into honest debates with these people; in any compromise between good and evil, only evil wins. Shine the light of truth on these cockroaches and watch them scurry.

If this country is to survive, we have a lot of hard work ahead. Remember this is not a war of different ideologies; it is a war between good and evil. We hold the moral high ground. There must be no compromise. Give the enemy no quarter. Total destruction of this evil philosophy is the only answer.

Posted by: bill7021 | April 4, 2010 2:01 PM | Report abuse

17 minutes is nothing to a man who counts amoung his tyrannical heros Fidel Castro and Cesar Chavez.
Speaking for hours on end to say absolutely nothing is a "requirement of passage" into this unique "club".

PC is Thought Control
LEE

Posted by: Leewolf | April 4, 2010 2:01 PM | Report abuse

THIS IS HOW THE FREAK SOUNDS WHEN HE DOESN'T HAVE A TELE-PROMPTER ANSWER WRITTEN BY GEORGE SOROS...........

FINALL THE WORLD IS SEEING THE IGNORANT FREAK I SEE WHEN I LOOK AT THIS IGNORANT CHICAGO THUG...........

LIBERALS ARE STILL TELLING ME HOW DUMB BUSH WAS - HIS HEAD WOULD OPEN AND ROVE WOULD COME OUT

AT LEAST YOU HATEMONGERS KNEW WHO WAS HELPING BUSH

THE COMMUNISTS AND REV. WRIGHTS AND PENTAGON BOMBER ARE BEHIND THIS FREAK

THE WORLD........

HOAX AND CHAINS

AND I BET HALF THIS NATION NOW KNOWS WHAT IT MUST HAVE FELT LIKE WHEN THOSE JEWS THAT VOTED FOR HITLER FELT LIKE WHEN THEY WERE BEING WALKED INTO THE GAS CHAMBERS...........

THIS FREAK IS WALKING US INTO TAX PRISON

HE HAS A LITTLE OVER 200 DAYS............WE ARE GOING TO THROW OUT ABOUT 300 IN THE HOUSE AND 1/3 THE SENATE...........

THIS FREAK OVERBAMA AIN'T GETTING ANY MORE LEFTWING EXTREMIST HELP FROM THE CONGRESS - WE ARE SENDING THOSE IDIOTS TO THE UNEMPLOYMENT LINES THAT THEY ALL IGNORE

Posted by: CATHERINE10000 | April 4, 2010 2:01 PM | Report abuse

obuma and bernie madoff are one in the same a phony peramid scheming lier whos convinced himself that whatever he thinks is right is right even if its wrong for america and its people.

Posted by: wsaex | April 4, 2010 1:59 PM | Report abuse

Happy Easter Folks! Christ is being taken out of American life and replaced with an overbearing government media complex that shares not the truth of informed judgments on the consequences of actions taken by those they report on. In fact most cases are not reports at all but mere transcriptions of talking points at the truth. So, Should Jesus return this media would merely report the trumpets and White horses as fact... Or are they serving the other side in this issue also? Media of the "Dark Side" or lazy, stupid, or uncontrollably leftist? You choose because it is Easter. The day of our first resurrection, we can be glad that his grace is on us and these things will pass.

Posted by: ChrisKnowlton | April 4, 2010 1:59 PM | Report abuse

NewsBusters -- WaPo Headline: 'Obama's 17-minute, 2,500-word Response to Woman's Claim of Being "Over-taxed"'
http://newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-sheppard/2010/04/04/wapo-headline-obamas-17-minute-2-500-word-response-womans-claim-being

Posted by: StewartIII | April 4, 2010 1:59 PM | Report abuse

"squalicum" If you are a tax payer and a contributing member of society welcome and we ask your help in moving this country forward.

If on the other hand, you have become dependent on the property of others being given to you by the Messiah. You better pick up the classifieds, because bro' this free ride is going to have a sudden end.

Posted by: nickel1951 | April 4, 2010 1:58 PM | Report abuse

changemovingforward -- I can deal with you being a entitlement grabbing socialist with no understanding with who already is footing the bill. You are so far on the fringe you aren't even on the map.

But the use of He (with capital H) is used fro the Lord Almighty. Obama isn't.

I noticed it was all in quotes so I guess you mindlessly cut and paste it like a good little lemming.

Posted by: Jeeps | April 4, 2010 1:58 PM | Report abuse

Of interest is that the words 'pithy' and 'truth' are two elements that Obama is unable to apply when his policy of fundamentally transforming America is brought into the equation.

Posted by: rbblum | April 4, 2010 1:57 PM | Report abuse

Deceive, inveigle, obfuscate. That's all he seems to do.

He charmed the country with his words, but, as we can all plainly see, he's failed us with his policies, bringing us nearly 20% unemployment/underemployment, and adding tens of trillions to the deficit.

Not that the Republicans did much better...both parties have taken turns failing us.

Vote Independents into office in 2010 and 2012. We can start over with real change, not just slogans from the two corrupt parties which run things now.

Posted by: bartolut21 | April 4, 2010 1:57 PM | Report abuse

Washington Post - allowing your users to refer to members of the Tea Party movement or anyone who disagrees with you Massah Obama as "Tea Baggers" is abusive.

It could be said that the true Tea baggers are the supporters of Obama in the way the like to have things "stuffed" down their throats and up their anus and of course their swallowing ANYTHING - but I don't want to digress the way Obama does.

Tea Bagging is a crude sex act and referring to someone as such is crude and offensive. Please start enforcing your standards - at least maintain some dignity - History will make you a laughing stock for defending that charlatan in the White House.

Posted by: joelweymouthtais | April 4, 2010 1:57 PM | Report abuse

Anyone who has not heard of the Cloward-Piven strategy has no idea what Barack and his minions are doing to our country.

Google Cloward-Piven strategy and see that the destruction of our institutions and bankrupcy of our country is not a mistake it is their objective. Overwhelm the welfare state by giving out so many entitlements that all productive businesses are taxed out of existance then have a communist state take over after the Capitalist system collapse from supporting the layabouts and welfare scum.

Posted by: nickel1951 | April 4, 2010 1:50 PM | Report abuse

Courting all PAC MAN Fans
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pIrvpn3k9A4

We have a heart and a life. Vote Democrat in 2010!

Posted by: cooday | April 4, 2010 1:50 PM | Report abuse

ObamaPrompter Lectures!

How to create jobs...
...From a man who has never held a real job.
How to run our businesses...
...From a man who has never run a business..
How great ObamaCare is...
...From a man whose family will not be required to use it..
How to run our education system...
...From a man who hides his college records.
How to manage our finances...
...From a man who spends money we don't have.
How we should respect his faith...
...From a man who mocks Christian faith.
How to run our military...
...From a man who embraces those who attacked America.
How he respects our American Heritage...
...From a man who is dedicated to Socialism.

IRS to Enforce Health Reform!
Obama Czar orders funding of ACORN!
Democrats now Pushing Climate Legislation!
Bart Stupak (D-MI) Sold Out Abortion for $726,409!
It's all here...
http://usataxpayer.org/?0050135387

Circle Flies...
http://usataxpayer.org/?0062470846

Posted by: fantum | April 4, 2010 1:49 PM | Report abuse

Dear Praxis22, the comment "Obama the magic negro" came from a writer at the LA Times who happens to be black. Does everything have to be pointed out to you libs?

Posted by: jltules | April 4, 2010 1:47 PM | Report abuse

Hey, WaPo. We don't what to hear your implied criticism of Barry and his economic brain trust that's driving us into national bankrupcy. You people pushed this guy during the election. He's yours. And as his poll numbers crash, so is your circulation. See you in bankrupcy. Soon for you, many of us out here hope. And unlike today, no resurrection to follow.

Posted by: lcary | April 4, 2010 1:45 PM | Report abuse

When is somebody going to call this charlatan down. I pray for the day that someones asks him a question and allow him give his incoherent answers - to which a reply is made - "Obama - stop with the BS- you don't even know what you are talking about" and then get personal with his anemic resume. Then we would see the true fury seethe and see the true monster that he is. He can't take being challenged. He is a megalomaniac with a maybe above average IQ (120) at best. Obama is not that intelligent - you can see from this soliloquy that he is simply "parroting" what he has been told. A truly intelligent many could have explained it in plain English and few words. If Obama was as "smart" as the MSM would like us to believe - they would be showing his grades and scholarly papers from Occidental, Harvard, and University of Chicago, but strange NONE OF IT HAS BEEN RELEASED. If they were of note- don't you think the adoring media would be rubbing our noses in it. They are protecting him as they did during the campaign. Obama is a Fake, Charlatan, con man, A HOWDY DOODY (kind of looks like one doesn't he?) with the real brains pulling the strings.

Posted by: joelweymouthtais | April 4, 2010 1:45 PM | Report abuse

In an earlier post I explained that if you do nothing at all in this society but live, you probably spend about 30% of the price of everything you buy "paying other people's taxes" (i.e. the percentage of the cost of items that goes to pay the taxes of everyone up the production chain.)

It dawns on me that someone will say, "that's cheap... look at Europe!"

Let me point out that 30% is where it starts... i.e. for the retired consumer living on Social Security or the disabled person on welfare. If you work, you can add up to 50% on top of that when you sum the entire panoply of local, state, federal, taxes, fees, licenses, etc.

And as to those who like to compare European tax rates with our Federal Income Tax rate.... remember they do not have the layers of taxes we have. Most only have the equivalent of federal taxes.

But don't believe me.... simply sit back and watch the cost of everything inch upward.... print more money and watch it edge up faster. This is reality, not propaganda, proven the world over where governments spend more then their people can afford.

Posted by: Karl_Quick | April 4, 2010 1:44 PM | Report abuse

After 15months of this, could somebody ask Dear Leader the next step to implement his plan to rectify the 'problem' he describes as:
"You can't think you can just set your thermostats at 72deg and drive around in your SUVs and think it's ok?"

r u ready?

Posted by: maitre_premier | April 4, 2010 1:44 PM | Report abuse

People, we need to keep jabbing at Obama so he continues to lash out against us and show his true colors, the colors of a drug mushy mind, of a man who grew up without roots, without a nation, without a father, without a moral compass, with the socialist indoctrination feeding his need to overcome whitey dominance.
With continued pressure from more and more of true Americans, we can force him to bring about his own demise, well before we need to vote him out.

Posted by: bboodry | April 4, 2010 1:43 PM | Report abuse

praxis22 | April 4, 2010 12:42 PM
Are you comfortable that an America-hating Muslim Communist who has fried his brain on drugs is now the leader of the free world and has his skinny finger on the nuclear trigger?

I see the problem is your living in denial. You are thriving on FOX NEWS talking heads, RUSH (Mr. Drug addict in the flesh) and the gang of propagandist artiest that are living behind the guise “I’m and entertainer.”
If Rush is not a racist how do you justify the use of the quote “Obama the magic negro.”
One of these days you will search farther than the pabulum jar to gather your facts.
One of these days you may see the buffoon you have become.
Narrow minded bigoted arrogant fools are brash with flawed thinking. Serving only malcontent and vile thoughts on pages like this.

Posted by: squalicum | April 4, 2010 1:35 PM | Report abuse

It is to me; as a flat lander from Maine...curious that he took that long and that many words to make a fool of himself. He's done much better in the past and with much less verbiage.

Posted by: UncleBuck2 | April 4, 2010 1:35 PM | Report abuse

Well everyone missed it until the Lame Stream media explained it. Obviously, Doris is a racist.

Posted by: nickel1951 | April 4, 2010 1:34 PM | Report abuse

"We are all equal, but some of us are more equal than others!" -- Barack Obama

(Whoops! I'm sorry -- that was from George Orwell's "Animal Farm")*

I know... "What's the difference?!!!!"

Posted by: blue9 | April 4, 2010 1:33 PM | Report abuse

Look folks, this is the real problem here with Mr. Obama. The more he talks about the Healthcare Plan the more he realizes that this was one big mistake. He can't sell it, quite frankly, because he doesn't believe in it either. But, he thinks because "he" said it, people should accept it and not question him. Afterall, isn't that how he got into the highest office in the land, by saying stuff that he really knew were not going to happen? He got a lot of votes from voters that just went along and in the end got scammed.

Posted by: Pattieb112 | April 4, 2010 1:30 PM | Report abuse

The point of the article is Obama likes to hear himself talk.. the people have caught on that he has NO idea of what he's talking about.. talk long enough and people will forget the original question.. he does it when he's interviewed by the fringe media and they let him get away with it.. there is NO MISCONCEPTION the people KNOW the truth they want him to realize they know.. We already had our primaries in IL and the Dems are unhappy with the out come so much in fact they made their Lt. Governor nominee step down and are CHOOSING who will run with the loser they elected to run for Governor.. (the Governor nominee barely won or did he? Obama made a call and the one they didn't want to run conceited) it a big joke..

Posted by: lcky9 | April 4, 2010 1:29 PM | Report abuse

"We are over-taxed as it is," Doris said bluntly.

Obama started out feisty. "Well, let's talk about that, because this is an area where there's been just a whole lot of misinformation, and I'm going to have to work hard over the next several months to clean up a lot of the misapprehensions that people have," the president said.

- - - - - -

I'm sure I'm hardly the first or first of a million to notice that Obama IS NEVER WRONG. It's always the questioner who's been misinformed.

This socialist clown, who really doesn't think Americans are overtaxed--well, some aren't, including the millions who don't pay taxes--must be politically neutralized as quickly as possible, before his megalomaniacal arrogance starts a beyond-words in-the-street revolution. .

Maybe we can exile this Marxist Napoleon to some island in the South Pacific where all he'll have are coconuts, bananas, coral snakes and other critters to whom he can pontificate?

Guess we'd better ask permission of the fruits and critters first, though.

Posted by: 1legacy | April 4, 2010 1:23 PM | Report abuse

I have no work. I am self employed and after my $12000 in savings I am broke. I want to work but cannot get work because businesses do not want to spend until they see an end to Obama manipulating their money. When is he going to realize this and stop the madness? When all my money is gone, so am I.

Posted by: crystal9154 | April 4, 2010 1:23 PM | Report abuse

It's difficult for Obama to comprehend not having enough spending money. He can print money, you realize.

Funny Obama spending parody: http://www.funnyconservatives.com/?p=416

Posted by: buckrol | April 4, 2010 1:20 PM | Report abuse

this is what happens when he is with out his prepared dialouge on a telepromter. i am sure the women came out with the knowledge of why she is over taxed and why it is necessary to suckle the lazy democratic voters on welfare. the sooner america gets to nov 2012 the better. but we do have a chance to dam him up in nov of this year! please remember the last year and come out in droves to vote. i am and i will bring a bus load along.

Posted by: carl6352 | April 4, 2010 1:19 PM | Report abuse

Barry Hussien Oh no Obama our utter failure of a President should be impeached for his failure to disclouse his birth records and every other record he is hiding....


I don't know anyone who likes this guy...

Posted by: xtme2005 | April 4, 2010 1:19 PM | Report abuse

"TONE IT DOWN", Mr. President. The arrogance, forked tongue, and nonsense are enough, already. I never thought I'd see the day that I would feel so disgusted with our national leadership and loss of international respect. Clinton was an embarrassment, but this one is over the top. Every day a new dilemma arises. To all those who voted for this 'change', are you happy now???

Posted by: vlmorgan | April 4, 2010 1:17 PM | Report abuse

LIBERAL RACISTS are all too happy to come on these comment boards and pose as conservatives. It is not beyond barry and his crew to flood these things with 'racism' supposedly coming from the right.

Posted by: GregBuls1 | April 4, 2010 1:17 PM | Report abuse

17 Minutes and the President failed to identify the most important reason to raise taxes.

The sick, as a group, are under taxed and need to be given the stark choice of pay more taxes, fees and higher prices for dtugs, health insurance, and out of pocket health care costs or just exercise their right to refuse to pay and die.

Taxes on drugs, taxes on insurance policy premiums for older workers who tend to be sicker, Taxes on all health insurance companies that they will pass on in higher insurance premiums, and higher premiums for drastically less health care benefits for workers who already have health care, are some of the ways the President wants the sick to pay their fair share.

Continuing to make it illegal to pay lower prices for the exact same drugs by buying them in Canada, maintaining the right of drug companies and insurance companies to raise their prices on American Citizens without interference from the Federal Government.

This is the kind of change that will force sick people to pay their fair share of taxes, or choose to die and cease being a drag on society.

Posted by: RealityChk | April 4, 2010 1:15 PM | Report abuse

The endless drone of those who seem to drone-on-endlessly, lol

Barack Obama is truly an eye-watering bore, and must be delusional to think his threadbare HC spiel is going to change any minds at this point... somebody needs to tell him constitutionally-aware patriots don't need any lectures from Marxists

http://reaganiterepublicanresistance.blogspot.com

Posted by: ReaganiteRepublican | April 4, 2010 1:14 PM | Report abuse

Please, put us out of our misery and impeach this community organizer. If he doesn't know what he's doing he's dangerous and if he does know what he's doing he is even more dangerous. We are in deep doo doo with Obama. And not to mention, Biden the joke of the century, Reid the loser and Pelosi who, thank God, might very well have to take her seat back in the aisles of Congress when she loses her job as Speaker.

Posted by: Atlas007 | April 4, 2010 1:13 PM | Report abuse

Ugh.... another ignorant lib blames us conservatives for being greedy ... for being unwilling to pay the taxes "we deserve" !!!

I hardly pay any taxes... DIRECTLY. I am like the vast majority of you: most of the taxes we pay are embedded in the prices of things we buy !!!!

Please... learn economics 101. Price competition works beautifully to reduce prices to a minimum.... but ONLY if there can be a significant difference in price.

If you provide broad taxes (eg 16.25% FICA tax + property taxes + phone taxes + fuel taxes + + + ) the cost of those taxes go directly to raise the price of goods for ALL COMPETITORS, diluting any efficiencies one or the other company may find.

So....
1) YOU PAY THE TAX, even if you are not the one the tax bill is sent to !!!!
2) TAXING heavily reduces the competitiveness of the efficient provider, undermining the advantages of the only system to have ever worked to reliably restrain the profits of the greedy.

Actually, I think this is why rich people contribute to the Dems.... they realize they can be richer and fatter cats if they bribe politicians rather than work hard to make their products and services cheaper!

Think about it. Look at the numbers. Take the richest Billionaires in the country, sum all their billions.... and it still would not pay for the Stimulus Bill or one year's Federal deficit.

And then remember that there are state taxes and deficits, and local taxes and deficits, and many, many more of us are in the process or retiring and expect to collect our Social Security and (increasingly being forced to depend upon) Medicare.

Taxed Enough Already? You betcha... and so are you if you live in this society, even if you don't pay a dime in Federal Income Tax yourself.

Every dollar you pluck down to buy a loaf of bread includes pennies that go to pay the FICA taxes for the clerk... and list all the taxes for all the people all the way back to the property tax on the dirt the farmer grew the wheat in!!!

At least 30% (many say more) of the average dollar spent ultimately goes to pay some tax at some level for some middle or lower class person who worked on getting you that product.

So quit the blame game already! WE ALL pay the taxes for the rich!

Posted by: Karl_Quick | April 4, 2010 1:12 PM | Report abuse

Maybe, one day soon, our faux socialist president in empty suit, will break Mr Castro's records for being long winded. Or may be, what is being hidden about POTUS will come out. And I have to agree with bill7021's comments.

Posted by: sniper310 | April 4, 2010 1:11 PM | Report abuse

"Being a member of the world community, I live in the house of my father with all my brothers and sisters. It is a house known as America, a place of many faults (which I try to teach my students about daily.) When my father speaks I listen. If he asks me to help my brother or my sister I do so. When our leader asks us to help by providing insurance, he does so to shelter us all and keep us well. I will do as my father asks and pay my share, and soon the richest of the rich shall pay too. If some of you white middle class don't like it, there may be chances to be re-educated in the future. And I look forward to volunteering with whatever program my leader wants to institute in that respect as well, whether they be mandatory seminars, or mass educational outings held for the "Tea Party" baggers and other capitalist offenders. It will not be long before you understand that change is coming whether the rich, privlidged few in Escalades want to accept it or not. But you WILL accept it and you WILL know that to go against your country and your brothers and sisters in this big house of ours, means to subject yourselves to the courts. The law is watching and the people will see to it that you and your children will be taught to understand what it means to be a world citizen. Abide by what He asks."

Is Changemovingforward writing sarcastically, trying to provoke the racist comments we've seen on this thread, trying to make people realize that this is the direction Obama is leading the country? Is the post too skillfully written, hitting all of the hot buttons that set off conservatives (including me)? Are we being sucked in? Does the writer have a good point? How many Obamians agree with the post and think that way? How many teachers do? Should we be getting the joke?

Posted by: donaldjohnson | April 4, 2010 1:09 PM | Report abuse

Long winded, rambling, pointless speeches filled with meaningless platitudes. THAT was his WHOLE CAMPAIGN.
Why is it a PROBLEM NOW?

Posted by: joebusto | April 4, 2010 1:08 PM | Report abuse

A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the voters discover that they can vote themselves largesse from the public treasury. From that moment on, the majority always votes for the candidates promising the most benefits from the public treasury with the result that a democracy always collapses over loose fiscal policy, always followed by a dictatorship. The average age of the world's greatest civilizations has been 200 years.

Great nations rise and fall. The people go from bondage to spiritual truth, to great courage, from courage to liberty, from liberty to abundance, from abundance to selfishness, from selfishness to complacency, from complacency to apathy, from apathy to dependence, from dependence back again to bondage.

Posted by: idiocy | April 4, 2010 1:07 PM | Report abuse

jgrffn27043 - April 4, 2010 - 12:27 PM, well said!!!!! I am a proud black American Republican. liberalsodomy - April 4, 2010 - 12:31 PM is going off the deep end.

The condition of the black American is directly related and caused by the actions of the democrat party during and after the Civil War. There were four options to the question, "What Shall We Do With the Negro" after the Civil War:
http://acwbn.blogspot.com/2009/03/what-shall-we-do-with-negro-lincoln.html

Option 1 - This was the Republican option, total and complete economic, political and social freedom to avoid creating a massive oppressed class of wards of the state where crime, disease and future civil and social unrest will result.

Option 2 - Lincoln's preferred option, colonization to remove the people the democrat party was building hatred against to avoid massive civil and social unrest.

Option 3 - Extermination democrats said an inferior and superior people cannot live in peace. The superior people will exterminate the inferior people.

Option 4 - The democrat party option was, let the negro live but discriminate against him. Republicans said this will repeat the sins of Europe that forced millions of European peasants to flee to America for freedom. If America cannot embrace our own oppressed America will cease to be the last, best hope for mankind on the face of the earth.

After the Civil War the democrat instilled the policy of discrimination against blacks in the South and the democrat controlled Northern cities where the bulk of black Americans still live in poverty today. Our current condition was created by the social policies of the democrat party. Our current condition caused by racism was put in place by the democrat party.

Republican Congressman Davis in his statement touches on the Four Options to the Negro Question during his address to Congress. Go to this Library of Congress site below and in the box that says "Turn to image" enter page # "45". Then, start reading the second paragraph of column 2 of the congressional record from 1863:

http://memory.loc.gov/cgi-bin/ampage?collId=llcg&fileName=067/llcg067.db&recNum=654

(Go back to the box and enter page # "46". Read the third column, it has interesting reading, as well.)

For more complete details on the issue of the democrat party's historical link to modern American race relations, go here: http://blackrepublicans.ning.com/profiles/blogs/a-republic-not-a-democracy

I hope liberalsodomy reads this because the democrat party has for many years performed liberalsodomy on the black American!

Posted by: larry22 | April 4, 2010 1:05 PM | Report abuse

Once again the Main Stream Media failed to report the real reason the President cut his answer short.

Obama's teleprompter fell a sleep after 17 minutes of listening to the Messiah.

Posted by: RealityChk | April 4, 2010 1:02 PM | Report abuse

I can see a TV sitcom coming called:
THE BUMBLERS- starring Barry "I'm sorry for America" Obama. Also starring Joe Biden, "The F-ing Bozo Bumbler". They will always tell a person who disagrees with them many lies and fabrications. And they will only talk, if they can put you to sleep with their long drawn out lines of crap. You see Blowbama and Jozo really think that they can talk us into agreeing with their phoney schemes. The more they speak, they think, the more we will believe them. Sorry, my I.Q. is much higher than my waistline. In fact, I know my I.Q. is higher than Jozo's, Nancy the Nutcase, Harry the pinhead, and Blowbama himself. Just remember to vote in November to slow down the remaking of America into Barry's dream land, Socialism, Big Government Control and less liberty and freedom for all.

Posted by: mlinden2000 | April 4, 2010 1:02 PM | Report abuse


This is what the Muslim America-hating drug addict in the White House has in store for all of America:
http://www.time.com/time/photogallery/0,29307,1882089_1850973,00.html

Posted by: bill7021 | April 4, 2010 1:01 PM | Report abuse

Over 17 minutes to answer a straight-forward question about the timing (and implicitly the lack of wisdom) of raising taxes when people are over-taxed already, this demonstrates defending the indefensible is quite tough.

Obama has no real-life experience, obviously never having worked a real job and paid taxes. How could he intelligently have answered that question? By the way, he didn't answer the question.

Almost 3 more years of this clown--God, I hope not! He should RESIGN before he ruins what's left of this country.

All talk, all ego, no substance.

Posted by: johnnytelecaster | April 4, 2010 12:59 PM | Report abuse

CrippledCoon I agree about misdirected white guilt being a major factor in Barry's election and support, however your racists statements play into the hands of those trying to demean opposition to Barry as racists. You wouldn't be doing this for that reason would you?

Posted by: deBeer | April 4, 2010 12:58 PM | Report abuse

I recently saw a photo of Mr. Obama with a book; the name is called:

"The Post-American World," and it was written by a fellow Muslim.

Now, that in itself is not bad (I worked for a Saudi for a number of years), what troubles me is that the book has a couple of theories: "There is certainly plenty to bemoan — from the disappearing dollar to the subprime disaster, from rampant anti-Americanism to wars in Iraq and Afghanistan that will take years to win.

Yet Zakaria’s is not another exercise in declinism. His point is not the demise of Gulliver, but the “rise of the rest.” After all, how can this giant follow Rome and Britain onto the dust heap of empire if it can prosecute two wars at once without much notice at home? The granddaughters of those millions of Rosie the Riveters who kept the World War II economy going are off to the mall today; if they don’t shop till they drop, it’s because of recession, not rationing."

Posted by: UncleBuck2 | April 4, 2010 12:53 PM | Report abuse

"There are many, many black people running businesses ..."

Really? No there aren't. Laughable. Science Fiction. Unless by business you refer to the Department of Corrections where nearly 2 out of 3 violent criminals are black males.

But certainky in TV land, where the white male has been villified. Complete role-reversal by liberal media. Ever notice how commercials show the happy black family in the $750k home getting life insurance, yet it's the white guy breaking into homes for ADT security ads? Or health insurance billboards and marketing materials showing the black doctor caring for the black baby? Oh, and why is it that any black featured in a commercial is always of the "light-skinned" variety?

Think about it. Let go of your white guilt. It is killing America.

Posted by: CrippledCoon | April 4, 2010 12:53 PM | Report abuse

The only reason Obama won was because conservatives sat out the last election due to the liberal actions of the Republicans in the last administration. Bush's socialist programs like free drugs and letting Ted Kennedy write the education bill infuriated many C's so we said screw you R's. If you act like Dems we won't vote for you. McCain is a liberal in many respects so he didn't win. If conservatives had a good candidate we would have won in a landslide. This fluke president and his followers are counting their chickens b4 hatched. Now that all Americans see what Obama really is, they will fix this situation at the first opportunity. I love all the Obama supporters that think they can tell we the free people what we will and won't do. Do they really think we will allow Obama to break the law while we just sit still?

Posted by: flienhard | April 4, 2010 12:51 PM | Report abuse

Limbaugh predicts that Barry will one day have a meltdown and go off teleprompter letting everyone see his true colors. This seems awfully close.

Posted by: member8 | April 4, 2010 12:50 PM | Report abuse

The more he speaks the more Obama is sounding like a banana republic dictator like his friend Hugo. Long rants that say nothing.

Posted by: Mahakala | April 4, 2010 12:50 PM | Report abuse

"larry22" You have perfectly described exactly what Obama is after with his so called healthCare law. It is all about more federal revenue for the Democrats to spend. They will absorb all of the disposable income of all of us. What is to stop them now that this is the law of the land. You correctly characterize the higher "premiums" that will be mandated by law as just taxes by another name, you are right and the money and power they can sell for those who want better care or a part of the business will allow them yet more "revenue". It is Chicago thug politics merged with Communism as a cover. Our only hope is to break the back through REPEAL NOW, or the scum RINOS will claim we need the new revenue for their particular pet projects, another war. Iran this time. Wake up America you are being sold into Eygpt and this clown is no Moses.

Posted by: nickel1951 | April 4, 2010 12:46 PM | Report abuse

Taxed

Enough

Already

Posted by: praxis22 | April 4, 2010 12:42 PM | Report abuse


squalicum | April 4, 2010 12:13 PM wrote: “It is so obvious to every progressive thinker in America you the self-righteous right wing sheep are living in a state of fear culminating from a frenzied maze of disinformation, propaganda and out right lies.”

Such unintelligent drivel is breathtaking. Are you, as is your hero Obama, a product of an affirmative action, left wing education? Are you so in love with your criminal ideas of wealth re-distribution that you will pimp for the most disgusting, incompetent, classless president in US history?

This idiot cannot string two coherent sentences together. His totally unfocused rambling for seventeen minutes trying to answer a simple question is frightening.

Are you comfortable that an America-hating Muslim Communist who has fried his brain on drugs is now the leader of the free world and has his skinny finger on the nuclear trigger?

You need to pull your head out of the sand (or more likely your posterior) and see this imposter for what he is.

If your leftist disease has not progressed to the final stage, there may be hope for you. The following book describes the psychology of the mental sickness of liberalism:
http://www.amazon.com/Liberal-Mind-Psychological-Political-Madness/dp/097795630X

Posted by: bill7021 | April 4, 2010 12:42 PM | Report abuse

"Unfortunately, black people were treated as property for hundreds of years..."

But why? Answer: Too stupid. The only thing different today is that it's the uncle tom blacks that are cashing in (aka Obama).

Posted by: CrippledCoon | April 4, 2010 12:40 PM | Report abuse

Why would someone with nothing to hide spend over a million dollars (to three law firms) to conceal his:

Birth records

Adoption records

College records & thesis on Communism

Indonesian Passport records

Law practice client list?

The anti-Christ hid a lot to achieve his White House takeover.

Posted by: Garland1 | April 4, 2010 12:39 PM | Report abuse

So now it's "50 million" who don't have health insurance? First it was 30 million. Then, 15, Then 46. Now it's "50." No wonder the Trillion-Dollar President is getting 'BILLIONS' and 'TRILLIONS' mixed up. It's only money, after all. And "we can print all we want!" Besides, when you're intentionally TRYING TO CRASH THE ECONOMY (the Marxists favorite, Cloward-Piven Strategy), you just try to obfuscate as much as possible and make crap up. The 0BowMao Zombies won't hear it through all of their chanting and cheers of unmitigated praise, anyway!

Posted by: praxis22 | April 4, 2010 12:37 PM | Report abuse

Changemovingforward....that rant is the most frightening thing I have ever read....
If you really feel that way, you are living in the wrong country, you need to find another place to live that suites you better. I do not mean this in a bad way, but we will not change what our Country was founded on to suite you, so go find a Country to live in that already has the kind of government philosophy you agree with.

Posted by: ejfwsf | April 4, 2010 12:35 PM | Report abuse

Aunt Mabel is serving the Ham, so I can't stay much longer here. One question though...who the heck is this Congressman Hank Johnson? He thinks that Guam will tip over and drown everyone, if we send more people there!

http://blog.heritage.org/2010/04/01/video-congressman-thinks-the-island-of-guam-could-tip-over/

Posted by: UncleBuck2 | April 4, 2010 12:34 PM | Report abuse

Then perhaps, jgrffn27043, blacks should move someplace where they wouldn't be so "oppressed" like zimbabwe or haiti perhaps where the negro is free to roam on dirt roads in a state of lawlessness and anarchy.

I know what the blacks are doing to the whites in those countries and how it is being covered up. I think we whites in America should respond in kind.

Posted by: liberalsodomy | April 4, 2010 12:31 PM | Report abuse

I don't want to waste too much precious space here; but I read recently that "Bo the White House pooch" has papers, but Mr. President doesn't? What's with that?

Posted by: UncleBuck2 | April 4, 2010 12:29 PM | Report abuse

nickel1951,

Not to fear. We won't really have to wait until 2013. As soon as we take the house and senate majorities back in 2010 all they will need to do is defund the health care bill until 2013 when real repeal will happen and a president will sign it. 2010 IS the key!

Posted by: Ronchylady | April 4, 2010 12:28 PM | Report abuse

Come on guys, don't forget! You don't have to wait till November to vote! There are PRIMARIES coming up...and whatever your party the main thing is VOTE AGAINST THE INCUMBENTS. I'm an Independent, so, I really don't care if the Dems or Repubs win, the main thing is, GET THE INCUMBENTS OUT. If there is still a Dem majority after the general election fine, but we need Pelosi, Boxer, Reid, Schumer, Rangel, Weiner, Watson Waxman, Harmon, Feinstein, etc GONE.

And one more thing....maybe someone brighter than I can explain this to me. HOW DOES IT MAKE SENSE TO RAISE TAXES, FOR *ANY* REASON DURING A RECESSION?!?!?!??!?!?

Posted by: brucewla | April 4, 2010 12:28 PM | Report abuse

liberalsodomy is wrong. Black folks are only here because our forefathers brought them here against their will.

There are many, many black people running businesses who are slowly learning just what Obama and this backward congress has in store for them.

Black folks have seen this government stand by as they've been enslaved. The same government sterilized them, put them under scrutiny and started the war on drugs as a means of keeping them under control. No black man should ever trust the US government, even if a black man is supposedly running the show. Remember Eugenics?

Obama will teach them better than any white person ever could when he betrays the black folks and their needs and gives amnesty to the illegal immigrants and lets them run rampant in this the country. The mask will be off by then.

And besides, Obama didn't win the election simply because black folks voted for him. They vote overwhelmingly democrat every election. They're almost taken for granted by the democrats.

There were plenty of stupid white folks who fell for it too. In fact, more white folks voted for him than black folks.

Posted by: jgrffn27043 | April 4, 2010 12:27 PM | Report abuse

Hey kevincondor0713!

Q: What do Drudge, Limbaugh, Hannity, and Beck all have in common?

A: None of them could graduate from college.

Puttimng aside your nonsensical premise that they "couldn't" graduate from college, this should tell you somwething:

You don't need a college diploma to know what you're talking about.

Something tells me this is the antithesis of you.

If you think the measure of one's experience, intellect, and wisdom resides in a college diploma, you haven't learned much during your lifetime, have you?

Go back to class, putz.


Posted by: msarm5 | April 4, 2010 12:27 PM | Report abuse

A talented snake oil salesman - YES. A leader? Not even close. This man is leading the nation to disaster even faster than his incompetent predecessor. You almost wonder if the rumors you hear are true that it is actually his unstated goal to destroy America by spending and borrowing the government into bankruptsy. Everything he does is aimed at the destruction of our country - and replacing it with one based on the philosophy of Marx. As Margaret Thatcher once said, "The problem with socialism is that evenually you run out of other people's money."

Posted by: whosiwhatzit | April 4, 2010 12:24 PM | Report abuse

Americans HAVE elected Chance Gardener to the White House. I did not want to believe it, but this proves it. It also shows why this guy can't think without a teleprompter.

Posted by: MrQueue | April 4, 2010 12:24 PM | Report abuse

You're a clown "fount".

Blacks are the biggest waste or resources in the history of the planet. They are used by jews as cultural, political, economic, and biological weapons of mass destruction.

Posted by: liberalsodomy | April 4, 2010 12:24 PM | Report abuse

It is to me; as a flat lander from Maine...curious that he took that long and that many words to make a fool of himself. He's done much better in the past and with much less verbiage.

Posted by: UncleBuck2 | April 4, 2010 12:23 PM | Report abuse

It appears Barry has not put his Occidental days behind him. Snort snort.

His ramblings and decreased weight are tell tale signs.

Posted by: deBeer | April 4, 2010 12:22 PM | Report abuse

Obama's new theme song: "Yakety yak, Don't talk back." Coasters 1958.

Posted by: hartungc | April 4, 2010 12:21 PM | Report abuse

To Liberalsodomy:

Your comments are racist, homophobic, and downright anti-American. I'm going to respond to a few of them here, but your beliefs are really toxic to anyone who values freedom and equality for all.

"Blacks, who have no respect for property rights"

Unfortunately, black people were treated as property for hundreds of years in this nation. Even once that was outlawed, they were systematically denied property rights in the form of red-lining for another hundred. Arguably, this continues to this day in some communities. Now you're upset about welfare? This country wouldn't exist if it weren't for the institutional denial of property rights to black people. They are the ones who BUILT this country, all while denied their rights.

" This is incompatible with America."..."We should deport the blacks."

The only thing incompatible with America is your opinion that anyone who differs from you -- people of color, gays and lesbians, women -- should be deported. Unfortunately for you, the country you live in believes in equality and opportunity for all.

Posted by: fount | April 4, 2010 12:21 PM | Report abuse

It’s not about facts or truth or of right or wrong. It’s about his ethnicity that upsets the right wing zealots.
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When you have nothing to answer, use the race card. Have a new for you - it does not work any more. Go back to your handlers from ACORN and ask for fresh talking points. Oops I forgot. ACORN is no more. LOL

The problem with Obama is the same as with Biden. Both are incoherently ranting idiots. And as you can see it has nothing to do with their skin color.

Posted by: pihto999 | April 4, 2010 12:20 PM | Report abuse

This regime bypasses the Constitution, despises the military, quadruples the national debt in one year, sends unemployment soaring, passes a Porkulus bill that is a slush fund, demonizes insurance companies, and passes a health bill that nobody knows anything about.

Bush was worse than this, how? Remind me again.

I'm sure you'll need a teleprompter.

Posted by: roccotool | April 4, 2010 12:20 PM | Report abuse

Obama is nothing more than a Super Salesman who doesn't deliver once you drive out of the showroom. He talks a great talk, but doesn't walk the walk at all!!!!

Posted by: TeaFor2012 | April 4, 2010 12:20 PM | Report abuse

We should deport the blacks. It would solve so many problems overnight.
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I think we should start with deporting morons. Which would put you and Obama on the first boat, regarding of the skin colors. Condi Rice, Thomas Sowell, Michael Steele, JC Watts and a lot of other black folks whom I admire will stay.

Posted by: pihto999 | April 4, 2010 12:16 PM | Report abuse

Whenever Obama speaks without a teleprompter, you are hearing a drug impaired person speak. He has trouble staying on point and staying brief. A drug impaired mind is the last thing we need in a president. Additionally, he is surrounded by drug impaired people advising him. This makes for a potentially disastrous outcome for America, in international events and domestically. The health care bill is convoluted and devious which reflects on the brains of these diseased democrats playing with our lives, freedom, and pursuit of hapiness.

Posted by: bboodry | April 4, 2010 12:14 PM | Report abuse

It’s not about facts or truth or of right or wrong. It’s about his ethnicity that upsets the right wing zealots. Fear that one of his kind has captured the nation. Not that Mr. Obama is a centrist that he has shown himself to be. Not that he has made the White House the most transparent in a decade. It is so obvious to every progressive thinker in America you the self-righteous right wing sheep are living in a state of fear culminating from a frenzied maze of disinformation, propaganda and out right lies. You then married all of this fear with your prejudices that have been handed down to you from your family.
Sad and pathetic.
The Beatles summed it up “What they need is a dam good whacking!”

Posted by: squalicum | April 4, 2010 12:13 PM | Report abuse

Why bother, Prez? These repub nimwits can't handle nuance.

Posted by: mdiddy80 | April 4, 2010 12:13 PM | Report abuse

I guess Odumbo was off his prompter again. LOL. What an idiot. God help us.

Posted by: harley2002 | April 4, 2010 12:12 PM | Report abuse

Unable to give a straight, concise answer to her question, he decided to baffle her with B S, thinking he was dazzling her with his self-perceived brilliance. More and more of the American people are waking up, seeing through the facade, and will vote accordingly in November.

Posted by: Delphinus13 | April 4, 2010 12:11 PM | Report abuse

I give.. shoot me now.

Posted by: texas1984 | April 4, 2010 12:08 PM | Report abuse

We should deport the blacks. It would solve so many problems overnight. Cities and streets would be safe, efficient and clean again, crime rates would plummet, prisons would be emptied, schools productive, and quality of culture would immediately rise. Addition by subtraction indeed.

Blacks, who have no respect for property rights from which all other rights flow, think that the purpose of government is to vote themselves other peoples' property and labor. This is incompatible with America.

It is time to make some real choices or continue down this road to ruin.

Communists determined long ago that they would not get their revolution of the proletariat, so they replaced them with blacks, homosexuals, and feminists in their marxist dialectic.

Posted by: liberalsodomy | April 4, 2010 12:07 PM | Report abuse

This post is treason. The Chosen One does not ramble.

Posted by: fireball72 | April 4, 2010 12:06 PM | Report abuse

Being a member of the world community, I live in the house of my father with all my brothers and sisters. It is a house known as America, a place of many faults (which I try to teach my students about daily.) When my father speaks I listen. If he asks me to help my brother or my sister I do so. When our leader asks us to help by providing insurance, he does so to shelter us all and keep us well. I will do as my father asks and pay my share, and soon the richest of the rich shall pay too. If some of you white middle class don't like it, there may be chances to be re-educated in the future. And I look forward to volunteering with whatever program my leader wants to institute in that respect as well, whether they be mandatory seminars, or mass educational outings held for the "Tea Party" baggers and other capitalist offenders. It will not be long before you understand that change is coming whether the rich, privlidged few in Escalades want to accept it or not. But you WILL accept it and you WILL know that to go against your country and your brothers and sisters in this big house of ours, means to subject yourselves to the courts. The law is watching and the people will see to it that you and your children will be taught to understand what it means to be a world citizen. Abide by what He asks."


Now that is some scary stuff. Truly scary. Wake up America! Remember to Vote! Let's get rid of these people. NOW!

Posted by: texas1984 | April 4, 2010 12:04 PM | Report abuse

Barry O is a perfect example of why I am against affirmative action. Mediocrity and BS rules over substance.

Posted by: deBeer | April 4, 2010 12:03 PM | Report abuse

Obama is the smartest guy in the room when he is alone.

Posted by: BelenGadfly | April 4, 2010 11:58 AM | Report abuse

The person who really raised and mentored Barry in Hawaii..Frank Marshall Davis.

Check it out...

Posted by: deBeer | April 4, 2010 11:55 AM | Report abuse

Riddle me this, if the obama cares so much about his fellow man, why does his real bro George Hussein Onyango Obama still live in a cardboard box?

Posted by: argh32 | April 4, 2010 11:52 AM | Report abuse

yankee11 - April 4, 2010 9:27 AM, great reasoning. I'd add to your points that Obamacare was never about healthcare but about using healthcare to increase federal revenues. Why?

1. Obama's main argument against the current healthcare system was that it provided too much healthcare access for certain populations, the elderly. Doctors ran too many tests. And, cut off too many limbs. (All of this paid for by greedy health insurance companies.) Obama felt healthcare systems should be limited.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IT7Y0TOBuG4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U-dQfb8WQvo

2. Obama said health insurance companies made too much money then denied coverage when needed which is breaking a binding contract between the insured and the insurer.
3. Obama said healthcare cost bankrupt the country unless the government controls healthcare while Obama's massive and careful spending is bankrupting the country not healthcare.

This suggests that Obama and democrats believes if the federal government forces the majority of Americans to buy healthcare insurance, these mandated health insurance payments become a new revenue stream for the federal budget. Then, the federal government can limit, ration, the healthcare access of older populations as a cost cutting measure. And, the federal government will force younger populations who under utilize healthcare to pay higher then normal premiums, which are really taxes, to the government.

Obama and democrats believe this will bring in hundreds of billions of new revenues to the federal government in a single payer system to balance the federal budget and pay down the federal deficit. The main rationale Obama has always used was a financial rationale. If the financial rationale indicates the real motivates behind Obamacare it stands to reason that healthcare will be rationed for financial reasons because it is consistent with why Obama and democrats rammed Obamacare into law. It was never about providing better healthcare. It was always about getting control of the money spent on healthcare, one sixth of the economy, and bring it under government control as a new stream of revenues. Naturally, this will lead to rationing to cut cost so the government will have more available revenues for other "social and economic justice"

Posted by: larry22 | April 4, 2010 11:52 AM | Report abuse

Thank you Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. for understanding how our Legal Republic works and using it to free people. Dr. King is what a true leader is all about and is what our Republic is lacking today.

Our Republic is seldom in use today. Were the Majority is limited, under our written Constitution, thus safeguarding the rights of The Individual and The Minority.

Our Republic versus a democracy, the very opposite of our U. S. and state Republics. All you hear today from the uneducated is in our democracy...NOT!

This is about a legal matter, not about a birth certificate or being a born citizen.

It is about our U. S. Constitution being selectively enforced. The dual Citizen(?), obama's legal authority to be President of the United States. You have to be a Constitutional Natural Born Citizen to be President of the United States. He is not legal.

Live links to real source records on my web page. Not what fool talking heads or straw man left of center Fox feeds you. For true source records not taken out of context.
http://homepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~texdick/obama.htm

Posted by: texdix | April 4, 2010 11:51 AM | Report abuse

You simple normal layperson folk...

He gets an A+++++ in any class he ever took for his public policy major.... a major where if you write many words you get an A... if you write few words you don't....

Obama is the PERFECT model of why college degrees and affirmative action have done one thing: make the US stupid.

This obama guy is average... almost nothing special about him at all... and you idiots fell for it.

Posted by: docwhocuts | April 4, 2010 11:51 AM | Report abuse

nickel1951
I have no doubt that the Republicans will win back the House and the Senate in November. I wouldn't be shocked to see 400 Repubs in the House. But, again, there aren't enough Democrat seats available this November to reach a veto-proof majority even if we win them all. I suppose you can hope for enough Dems to cross over and vote for repeal, but don't hold your breath. Obama will NEVER sign a repeal bill he doesn't have to. January 2013 will be the first chance we get for REAL repeal.

Posted by: search9286 | April 4, 2010 11:50 AM | Report abuse

Has everyone else read the post by Changemovingforward? Mass re-education for those that feel and think different than the father/messiah. You seem to be about 65 years past your calling. How is his/her ideology any different than that of Nazi Germany. Seriously, mass re-education for members of the TEA party and "capitalist offenders". We are a capitalist society. At least we used to be until the general population of idiots elected the socialists into office. The scariest thing about the entire post is that he/she reveals that he/she is a schoolteacher. This idiot is "educating" someone's children with these communist/socialist principles. Also, I guess it is not racist to call those who choose to exercise their first amendment right the "white middle class". I gave 8 years of my life, with great pride and honor, in service to this country I love dearly. Yet, wing nuts like this continue to eat it like a cancer.

Posted by: flavio2 | April 4, 2010 11:46 AM | Report abuse

Yep, Obama is the smartest guy in the room - as long as he speaks only from the teleprompter. Every time he goes off script and off teleprompter it is a uh um errrr ahhhh ..... disaster.

Posted by: ac7880 | April 4, 2010 11:46 AM | Report abuse

You leftist thugs really think that you can force this crap on America. Well I have news for you. *You* are the minority, and you will see that as early as this fall. You speak of changing this country whether the rich like it or not - oh yeah? I'm not rich, but I'll be making absolutely to fight the communists/socialists/nazis/liberals at every step.

One more thing, if you're a lib-tard and you know that this story made it to the top of Drudge - then you're reading it aren't you ;)

Posted by: ningis99 | April 4, 2010 11:44 AM | Report abuse

Obama's 17 minute meandering discourse in response to a simple comment follows his rambling March 20 speech on healthcare reform. Has Obama become so convinced of his own self-importance that we are going to be subjected to more of this a la other great ramblers like Chavez,Castro and Gaddafi? Stay tuned.

Posted by: maritxu | April 4, 2010 11:44 AM | Report abuse

@changemovingforward:
You lie. Your grammar is too good to be a black man. The reality is that you are a self-loathing white liberal wimp, of the same ilk that elected Obama. This is obvious because you refer to the elite few that drive Cadillac brand SUVs. The reality is that the welfare blacks, those that benefit the most from Obama's wel-care, are the ones with the flashy excesses that they can't afford. How do they say, "pimped out wiff dubs and whistle tips?" Furthermore, it is the ghetto blacks in this country that are draining the land of our wealth. It is the blacks of this country that are the weeds. We need to stop watering them, for they will never turn into fruitful crops. Blacks are the plague of humanity the world over. The dream that was once America was a round-table melting pot where every group of people brought something to the table. Blacks bring nothing because they're too stupid. Fact. Truth. It stings. Go ahead now, and report my comment for abuse like a good commie.

Posted by: CrippledCoon | April 4, 2010 11:41 AM | Report abuse

He just read whatever pre-prepared longwinded speech the teleprompter operator cued up in response to the question, people!

Why is this a surprise?

Posted by: idiocy | April 4, 2010 11:41 AM | Report abuse

barry X, the abandoned b a s t a r d of an illicit union between a deranged, teen aged, communist w h o r e and malcolm X, has his instructions from london to permanently destroy America and her economy via debt, euthanize the greatest generation, demoralize her military via homosexuality and exhaust it in a wild goose chase in the "graveyard of empires", and disarm it via fiat. He does hate America, especially White America, and does love his works of treason and destruction. It is through this that all his actions may be understood.

I hope the military honors their oaths, steps up and eliminates this a s s h o l e. This son of a w h o r e is the walking definition of a "domestic enemy" and we won't sit still anymore for his treason.

NEVER EVER forget the mainstream media that conspired to foist this muslim nation wrecking b a s t a r d on America is responsible. They intentionally sold us this traitor.

The democratic soviet is comprised of 22% of the population (blacks, jews, queers, transgenders, communists, and abortionists) An amalgam of misfits tied together by nothing more than malevolent envy and hate for Natural Law.

This man is actively destroying an America he was raised to hate, is supported by communists in the media and must be neutralized for the good of all.

It should be considered that barry soetoro is a communist or muslim plant groomed to completely destroy America from within.

Posted by: liberalsodomy | April 4, 2010 11:39 AM | Report abuse

Obama is obviously more then ready to take all our money anyway he can without any remorse by over taxing or confiscation. Especially if he gets elected another four look out 401 K’s. Yet he tries to tell us he's ringing his hands over our health and that 50,000,000 people some how don't have health care. Isn’t he aware of medicate it is for those who have no money or insurance including illegal’s. Matter of fact I read that all the hospitals just for Medicate patience (FREE CARE FOR ALL) have to close now because of his health care bill. Does he know this? Of course he does but he doesn’t care. This guy is the biggest lying criminal on the planet. This whole Obama care is nothing more then jobs expansion of unions in government to replace the jobs that will be lost when he destroys GM and Chrysler and after he destroys our economy. Obama’s presidency is nothing more then a union theft of the economic system in this country giving complete control to Obama. This was the only way that he could get the unions to go along with his Marxist agenda of destroying commerce in this country. He had to promise them security and what better way then to make them wards of the state dependants to government taxes. Even the democrats in Washington won’t be safe after Obama gets what he wants. I am convinced this man is dangerous and means harm to everyone in this country like nothing we have ever experienced in my life time.

Posted by: tri5 | April 4, 2010 11:37 AM | Report abuse

nother "fair and balanced" job of reporting by this partisan hack.

You made the top of Drudge honey. I bet that made you wet.

What a heap of crap.

Posted by: BHDonald |
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Geee, so you see nothing wrong with this insane endless rant and Obama inability to address a simple topic, do you?

I am more and more convinced that we need an IQ test for the voters. Which you and Obama would have failed

Posted by: pihto999 | April 4, 2010 11:35 AM | Report abuse

Quote from the author Anne E. Kornblut : "Public opinion on the bill remains divided"

Really?

55/35 against is divided?

I wonder, what conservative issue, if polled so significantly against, would get such gracious treatment.

I wonder Anne if the public polled 60/40 in favor if you and the Post would find public opinion divided.

55/35 is a landslide public rejection

Posted by: catilac | April 4, 2010 11:35 AM | Report abuse

This article is quite interesting, particularly for the Washington Post. I am sure they will receive a mighty scolding for putting such inflammatory commentary for our dear leader. Perhaps Anne Kornblut will 'suddenly disappear' .... you know what I mean.

the comments here from our brave citizens of this nation under siege and impending destruction are telling.

there will be a revolution.
You Obamabots just keep drinking the kool-ade

Posted by: rdb2 | April 4, 2010 11:35 AM | Report abuse

If he can't con use he bores us into submission.

Posted by: jburo | April 4, 2010 11:35 AM | Report abuse

Hey Changemovingforward : You are a traitor to the American ideals that made us a great nation. You are a supporter of becoming a backward nation that wallows in poverty so that all obey their supreme master. You think your ideals would foster toughness and innovation? Where are your great inventors and achievers going to come from?

Posted by: bboodry | April 4, 2010 11:34 AM | Report abuse

Obammy can't even put together a coherent sentence without the teleprompter.

Posted by: Noteleprompter | April 4, 2010 11:31 AM | Report abuse

I read you changemovingforward! It is soo laughable. Take your head out of the sand and realize we don't believe those lies at all. I suppose you would follow this idiot over the cliff. Poor YOU.

Posted by: jpurry2 | April 4, 2010 11:31 AM | Report abuse


This turkey's experience in public speaking was gained talking to slack-jawed, knuckle-dragging ACORN and SEIU audiences.

He is totally incompetent when it comes to addressing audiences with an average degree of intelligence, common sense, and moral integrity.

Posted by: bill7021 | April 4, 2010 11:30 AM | Report abuse

The posting by "changemovingforward" is frightening and threatening. The message is do-whatever-Obama-asks and do-it-if-you-know-whats-good-for-you. So scary. How did we get here?

Posted by: Nell4 | April 4, 2010 11:28 AM | Report abuse

Another "fair and balanced" job of reporting by this partisan hack.

You made the top of Drudge honey. I bet that made you wet.

What a heap of crap.

Posted by: BHDonald | April 4, 2010 11:27 AM | Report abuse

On Meet the Press,

Two "analysts" stated that he would not consider his term as President a success without 3 things happening:

1) Getting all troops out of Iraq.
2) Getting Universal Health Care
3) Getting Cap and Trade

1) The Plan put in place by BUSH is on schedule to do this.
2) Violating the Constitution and Bribery did this.
3) Circumventing Legislation through the EPA.

Notice that his top three priorities do not include creating conditions where Americans can have jobs and generate wealth.

This is because he is a statist who wants a nation of beggars.

After Obama, people will have to beg the government for their health and their energy.

For him, that's success.

Posted by: Washington13 | April 4, 2010 11:25 AM | Report abuse

This Muslim liar should have been born 150 years ago. He would have taken the honor of TOP SALESMAN among the many SNAKE OIL salesmen that traveled the country.

Don't you find it strange that they have NEVER found anyone that went to school with "O"?.
Where are his records?
Why is he continuing to fight any attempt to see his ORIGINAL birth certificate?
He has spen more to fight that than most people earn in a lifetime, why?
His whole life is a fraud.

and finally, where is the MEDIA?
Remember how they went after a simple mis spelling of 'POTATO'?
That was very important, but I guess that there is no need to take a serious look at someone destroying this country bit by bit.

Congress is made up of power hungry hypocrites, liars and thieves.

Time to clean house.

Every one that voted for this health care bill and many others have violated the 'OATH' they took for office.

Google OATH of office and read for yourselves.

Posted by: ben405 | April 4, 2010 11:25 AM | Report abuse

Putting the politics of this aside for a moment, the most disturbing thing for me is that his intellectual diarrhea , this absolute inability to focus on the problem and solution is lauded by the chattering classes as a sign of great thinking skills, a professorial approach, an example of thoughtful deliberation. While sharp no nonsense people like Sara Palin the call idiots.

This is the biggest problem.

Posted by: pihto999 | April 4, 2010 11:25 AM | Report abuse

search9286 Trust me if we get all the safe Senators and all of the vulnerable House and Senate incumbants the bill will be repealed.

In 1988 they told the Grey Panthers that they couldn't overturn and repeal "Catastrophic Healthcare" either. The over 65 grey panthers got so ticked off they cornered Dan Rostenkowski's car and turned it over with him in it. Not much you can do to stop a riot of Mecicare recipients when they are ticked off. The Catastrophic Health care bill was repealed.

I repeat any REPUBLICAN elected offical who thinks we can't repeal this bill NOW is part of the problem. He or she should either resign or we will vote him out as well. This midterm election is not about putting the Republicans back in office, that would be a joke, it is about putting the people of the United States back in control of their Constitutional Republic, Now please.

Posted by: nickel1951 | April 4, 2010 11:20 AM | Report abuse

There is a posting in this comment thread by a person named 'Changemovingforward'. Every thinking person needs to read this post...at least once. This is who we are turning our kids into. If you are not sickened and frightened by this post, read it again.

Time for a good thorough cleaning in D.C., our schools and colleges, and then double check our schools again. SIXTY IN 2010

Posted by: Phocus | April 4, 2010 11:17 AM | Report abuse

Kevin Condor actually makes a legitimate point about blindly following the cultural pack (he just does it in an annoying way.) This is why I am so alarmed at the discipleship of Obama.

Watch - Comment:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7sllmo73U2A

Posted by: yesnut1 | April 4, 2010 11:16 AM | Report abuse

"I look forward to volunteering with whatever program my leader wants to institute in that respect as well, whether they be mandatory seminars, or mass educational outings held for the "Tea Party" baggers and other capitalist offenders. It will not be long before you understand that change is coming whether the rich, privlidged few in Escalades want to accept it or not. But you WILL accept it and you WILL know that to go against your country and your brothers and sisters in this big house of ours, means to subject yourselves to the courts. The law is watching and the people will see to it that you and your children will be taught to understand what it means to be a world citizen. Abide by what He asks."

This is so sad, and troubles me deeply. Whoever wrote this is supporting outright Communism. And what's most troubling of all is the fact the "He" is capitalized. The only time you capitalize "He" is when you are referencing God.

Read between the lines: this poster is supporting Obama as a dictator, referenced as our "leader". he is not our "leader", he is only the head of the Exucitive branch. We are our own leaders. This poster is supporting mandatory education, which means re- patriation, a favorite of communist & socialist dictators. To round things out, he/ she references hatred toward the rich (another communist/ socialist cornerstone), and the idea that we are bound to our "brothers and sisters".

I am bound to no one and I'd like to keep it that way. Have we not learned anything from history? How many have died at the hands of dictatorships? 80, 90, 100 million? These Countries can only survive by either destroying and looting other countries, or on handouts and charity. Look at the signs, we are not that far off...

Posted by: osteen | April 4, 2010 11:15 AM | Report abuse

"Being a member of the world community, I live in the house of my father with all my brothers and sisters. It is a house known as America, a place of many faults (which I try to teach my students about daily.) When my father speaks I listen. If he asks me to help my brother or my sister I do so. When our leader asks us to help by providing insurance, he does so to shelter us all and keep us well. I will do as my father asks and pay my share, and soon the richest of the rich shall pay too. If some of you white middle class don't like it, there may be chances to be re-educated in the future. And I look forward to volunteering with whatever program my leader wants to institute in that respect as well, whether they be mandatory seminars, or mass educational outings held for the "Tea Party" baggers and other capitalist offenders. It will not be long before you understand that change is coming whether the rich, privlidged few in Escalades want to accept it or not. But you WILL accept it and you WILL know that to go against your country and your brothers and sisters in this big house of ours, means to subject yourselves to the courts. The law is watching and the people will see to it that you and your children will be taught to understand what it means to be a world citizen. Abide by what He asks."

Posted by: Changemovingforward | April 4, 2010 10:24 AM | Report abuse

____________________________________________


Simply more proof that the core cadre in the Obama movement are Communists, of the worst most Cult-of-Personality, zealous, repressive kind.


We sincerely, and I mean sincerely hope you guys are actually stupid enough to attempt hard-line Communist tyranny and oppression in America. That would be the true permanent change-catalyst needed to purge these shores once and for all of all that is Marxist, tyrannical, oppressive and foreign to this sacred land.

A pity that you are cowards who would never actually step up to the plate to implement your threats of a true Marxist state. Thus, we'll be locked into this stalemate quagmire struggle for decades if not centuries. A pity when we could have it out once and for all and get it over with. May the best ideology win.

Posted by: C0rrupt_0_Crats | April 4, 2010 11:15 AM | Report abuse

Ever played poker and watch some guy try to bluff everbody out w/ bad cards?

Before you know it, the guy has all his chips in the middle of the table and he only succeeded in getting 1/2 of his opponents to fold. (that would be you liberals)

Now he has to show his hand...and as suspected....it's all a bunch of B.S.

This is where President Obama is right now.

He doubled down on health care and is now forced to show his hand for what it is.

Nothing coming out of his bill is any good and clear headed rational minded people are asking honest questions...and getting the B.S. treatment like we've never seen before.

Expect a Howard Dean moment from Obama within a few months as even the media will begin to tire of propping up this joke.

Posted by: Orwells_Farm | April 4, 2010 11:14 AM | Report abuse

He was rambling on waiting for SEIU members to drag the lady out and beat her down. "Looks like somebody feinted, can you drag her out of here?"

Posted by: Jeeps | April 4, 2010 11:14 AM | Report abuse

President Obama's response said one thing about his program: he's a BLOWHARD.

Posted by: schratboy | April 4, 2010 11:13 AM | Report abuse

I would like to volunteer my "safe" US Senator Barbara Mikulski from Maryland as a needed vote to overturn ObamaCare.

She is an ex community organizer just like our Messiah and is devoted to this HealthCare abomination. She will turn 74 this year and is running in November for her fifth term as US Senator as a Democrat. I suggest since she is considered safe in this blue state of Maryland that those of us that vote in Maryland make a point to take her out and allow another vote for REPEAL of ObamaCare.

There are millions of voters in Maryland like other states who are sick of the one party rule of the Democrats.

Let's see who is more motivated to turn up at the polls this November, ACORN and SEIU or the people who feel their country has been stolen from them.

Please nominate your own "blue" state or "safe" democrats for ouster.


We all know the blue dog Democrats are toast, it is time to nail the "safe" democrats so we can over ride an Obama veto on repeal.

United we can get it done.

Posted by: nickel1951 | April 4, 2010 11:13 AM | Report abuse

WHAT A DONKEY.

Posted by: 50Eagle | April 4, 2010 11:12 AM | Report abuse

"...REPEAL OBAMACARE means exactly that, and now not later. IF YOU DON'T believe we can get a veto proof majority in NOVEMBER 2010 than that only means you don't understand how ticked off we are and you are going to have to step aside as well. Deliver or resign.

Posted by: nickel1951"

We CAN'T get a veto-proof majority in November. Only 1/3 of the Senate is up for re-election. There aren't enough of them that are Democrats that can be replaced to get us up to 67 seats even if we win every race. (There I go, using that "race" word).

Posted by: search9286 | April 4, 2010 11:10 AM | Report abuse

Me think's he protest's too much!!!

Posted by: jburo | April 4, 2010 11:07 AM | Report abuse

Changemovingforward - Thanks for proving my point. Your comment is the perfect example of the result of intensive brainwashing or 60+ years of mind control. The total absence of any respect for individual freedom and responsibility for self or recognition of our Constitutional superiority is astounding. Perhaps you are not even an American citizen. Perhaps you weren't serious and intended the piece as a sarcastic example of how the socialist world anticipates our sovereignty will be destroyed.

You are invited to explain further.

Posted by: phalloides | April 4, 2010 11:05 AM | Report abuse

You wouldn't go next door and ask your neighbor for some of his money to pay your doctor bill, but you would elect someone who would.

We have made a terrible mistake. He appoligizes for our past, disrespecting those who died, ALL COLORS, to keep us free, and now takes 17 minutes to tell a woman she is not over taxed.

God help us. First, Steele quits, then 60 IN 2010. And finally, no more Jimmy Carters!

Posted by: Phocus | April 4, 2010 11:04 AM | Report abuse

The position of any big government politician is that "We the People" work for the government. They believe it is our duty to give them all they want. To Obama, no tax is too big. There is no confusion on the part of anybody who sees their their money taken through income taxes, sales taxes, property taxes, excise taxes, social security taxes, medicare taxes, etc. Obama was very disrespectful of this woman who want to keep her paycheck.
http://www.TheAngryGrapes.com

Posted by: TheAngryGrapes | April 4, 2010 11:03 AM | Report abuse

At least with a snake oil salesman you pay for, and receive a bottle of something. With Obamacare an entire nation pays, both directly and indirectly, into a system already in a spending frenzy and facing horrible inflation, for a promised bottle of miraculous oil. To give Obama credit he did run on a promise of hope, not results.

Posted by: lathe | April 4, 2010 11:01 AM | Report abuse

I gotta get the transcript of the this 17 minute response, it will be gold!

Posted by: theaz | April 4, 2010 10:58 AM | Report abuse

To any Democratic politican who thinks they will still have a job in January, 2011, I suggest you read this comment list. Or for that matter any comments list even in your standard biased newspaper, like say the New York Times, Boston Globe, etc.

Then after you have thought about just how incensed the public is about this monstrosity of a healthcare bill you can begin filling out that job resume. You are going to be needing it. Yes, that means even you Blue State democrats who think you have gerrymandered youselfs into safety. Ask Scott Brown about that. We are coming for you and unlike your public sector union and ACORN voters there are millions of us even in your deep blue ghettos. You are going to see motivated voters like you have never seen. And losses like you have never seen since the Federalists got disolved in the 1820 election.

Posted by: nickel1951 | April 4, 2010 10:56 AM | Report abuse


This arrogant little Muslim snot had rather talk and lie than listen to the American people.

This community organizing slug with an affirmative action education has never held a real job, never ran a business, never met a payroll, never accomplished anything. He is not qualified to run a shoe-shine stand much less be the leader of the free world.

The American people are supposed to sit there and be quiet while he lectures them on subjects his twisted progressive mind cannot understand?

We need massive change in November.

Posted by: bill7021 | April 4, 2010 10:54 AM | Report abuse

TOChangemovingforward
YOU ARE SCARY!!!! Sounds like a good communist, Pol Pot/Mao. Sorry I am an American I will pass on your re-education program and I would say MOST freedom loving Americans will do the same. I know of a few other countries that you might find happiness.

Posted by: cgjurgens | April 4, 2010 10:54 AM | Report abuse

DUMP THIS TURKEY!

Posted by: 999999D | April 4, 2010 10:52 AM | Report abuse

It's in the liberal Democrat DNA that Americans are not taxes enough- ever.

Posted by: mhr614 | April 4, 2010 10:50 AM | Report abuse

DCerti, you wrote, "The man is a pig and completely unqualified to lead this glorious nation. It is embarrassing to see him traipsing around the world on our behalf. The animal must be removed in 2012."

_________

In retrospect, do you think you have done a disservice to pigs specifically and animals generally by comparing the LOWLIFE liar-in-chief pretender of the Oval Office to animals?

I'd rather have a pig in my living room any day over that lying scum!

Nov. 2 means we are one step closer to disinfecting the White House & the GANG OF THUGS in 2012! Till then, I'll remain vigilant and fight this FRAUD's policies to my death!

Posted by: Penny1212 | April 4, 2010 10:49 AM | Report abuse

“Brevity is the soul of wit”, and you’re short on both Mr President.
If any of us can’t say in as few words as possible what we’re selling, we’re hiding something or we lack the fundamental knowledge of our own claims. To this man everyone who does not agree with him needs to shut up and sit down; there is no debate with him. This notion should frighten every freedom loving American.
By the way, just because 50 countries practice socialized medicine, does not make it right or profitable. One needs only travel to Canada, Mexico and Europe to see & understand what I’ve just said.
PAS

Posted by: pastrong | April 4, 2010 10:46 AM | Report abuse

Obama does not have a coherent answer to this simple question. The truth is that taxes are going to rise for everyone in this country, not just the "rich". We have become a nation of dependents - Obama encourages folks to sit back, relax and live off the labor of others. More than half of all Americans pay no federal income taxes. The rest of us (the true working class) get screwed. Enough of Obama. And enough of this Democratic Congress - on to November!!!

Posted by: kevmaxwell | April 4, 2010 10:44 AM | Report abuse

"And I look forward to volunteering with whatever program my leader wants to institute in that respect as well, whether they be mandatory seminars, or mass educational outings held for the "Tea Party" baggers and other capitalist offenders. It will not be long before you understand that change is coming whether the rich, privlidged few in Escalades want to accept it or not. But you WILL accept it"

Wow..
Well that would sure make picking out federal employees to target much easier.

Let me clue you in on something, little Che, if your little scenario was to come to pass, I'd would be looking to kidnap you, then murder you in front of your family.

How'd that be?

Posted by: MrMeaner | April 4, 2010 10:42 AM | Report abuse

Let us be thankful for teleprompters. Mr. Obama does not have the education, experience or the inclination needed to compress vision into rational articulation. Rhetoric and jargon were his communication vehicles to the job acquired; we and he are now being punished for his clever ascendency.

Posted by: ch_munkholm | April 4, 2010 10:42 AM | Report abuse

This is what happens when a tele-prompter goes bezerk and the reader cannot remember what he put on the tele-prompter.
This is what happens when a liberal politician has to answer any question;:they "pad" the answer until the person asking the question has to go to the restroom.

Posted by: yokohlman | April 4, 2010 10:41 AM | Report abuse

Another example of his"If you cant dazzle them with Brilliance, Baffle them with Bulls*t!!" Bet that video doesn't make the CBS Evening news.

Posted by: Yeahright2 | April 4, 2010 10:41 AM | Report abuse

@Changemovingforward

Great satire!

Posted by: Sheila28 | April 4, 2010 10:39 AM | Report abuse

HOW CAN WE TRUST THIS ADMINISTRATION AND OUR NEW PRESIDENT ? .
16 MILION GOOD AND HONEST PEOPLE LOST THEIR PRODUCTIVE JOBS MOSTLY FROM THE DATE OF INAUGURATION , SMALL BUSINESS GET JOE THE PLUMBER SINDROME AND ARE AFRAID TO INVEST BEYING UNSURE ABOUT THEIR FUTURE AND AFRAID OF OBAMA'S NEWLY 16.000 IRS POLICE PEOPLE ESPECIALY HIRED TO ENFORCE THE TORENT OF EXPECTED TAXES .
THE ADMINISTRATION ALSO GET APROVED ALMOST 1 TRILION DOLLAR STIMULUS TO CREATE PRODUCTIVE JOBS AND THEY USE IT TO PAY THEIR NEWLY HIRED DESK PEOPLE SALARIES AS JOBS PRESERVATION.
THE MAJORITY LEADER DECLARED ONE DAY " I HAD GOOD NEWS : "THIS MONTH WE LOST ONLY 36,000 JOBS ".
MADAME SPEAKER TOLD HER SENATORS : " VOTE FOR THE HEALTH CARE BILL IF YOU WANT TO SEE WHAT IS IN" .
OUR PRESIDENT SPEACHES CONTAINING HUNDREDS OF "READ MY LIPS " .
AND MEDIA SEES OUR SHIP SAILING IN QUIET WATERS.
I DONT ! !
SORRY FOR YOU AMERICA.

Posted by: yonasolo | April 4, 2010 10:38 AM | Report abuse

Somebody once said "If you can't convince them, then confuse them with words". Seems our esteemed President loves the sound of his own voice, even when he isn't saying anything. The lady asked a simple question. Why didn't she just get a simple answer? Maybe because there isn't any. Or maybe, because to honestly answer the questions, he must honestly tell the truth, which at this point, I doubt he knows what the real truth is, because his answer is so complicated and intrigate. Even I know the answer to the question--We are being overtaxed because the powers in Washington are spending too much money, and the money has to come from somewhere, so it might as well be in the form of taxes. Taxes like the English Government put on the early settlers to compensate for their mishandling of the colonies and abuses of power. HELLO PEOPLE. That's why we had that TEA PARTY in BOSTON so many years ago. See the correlation here?

Posted by: sallysays | April 4, 2010 10:37 AM | Report abuse

We are going to get that bastards birth certificate....make no doubt about that.....even though it is locked up in hawaiian governor Lindle's personal safe

Posted by: andylev | April 4, 2010 10:34 AM | Report abuse

Changemovingforward shows his true colors. (let's hope he was being sarcastic, but maybe not)

"I look forward to volunteering with whatever program my leader wants to institute in that respect as well, whether they be mandatory seminars, or mass educational outings held for the "Tea Party" baggers and other capitalist offenders. It will not be long before you understand that change is coming whether the rich, privlidged few in Escalades want to accept it or not. But you WILL accept it and you WILL know that to go against your country and your brothers and sisters in this big house of ours, means to subject yourselves to the courts. The law is watching and the people will see to it that you and your children will be taught to understand what it means to be a world citizen. Abide by what He asks."


A modern George Bernard Shaw.

Posted by: nickel1951 | April 4, 2010 10:34 AM | Report abuse


Obama was once a cokehead, and probably still is. He's now smokes and drinks excessively, according to his doctor.

And he always appears to be under the influence of drugs: anti-depressants, anti-anxiety medication, and/or sedatives.

His "cool" is clearly chemically induced.

Why doesn't the Washington Post do an investigative report about all these apparent addictions?


Posted by: Jerzy | April 4, 2010 10:31 AM | Report abuse

That quite an answer or is it? Here was a response for a "career politician" who has never held a job in the private sector. His life has revolved around an affirmative action check or payoff from the taxed sector. Obama has never experienced being laid off and therefore has never been confronted with paying COBRA at 2400/month. So with Obama's and questionable very limited experience and backgrond in the working world, he believes addition taxation is simply a means to an end - socialism.

Posted by: Templeton62 | April 4, 2010 10:30 AM | Report abuse

"We are over-taxed as it is."

If your response to this statement is not, "Yes we are. Here's where I believe we should reduce taxes. 1..2..3.."

Then you DO NOT AGREE that "We are over-taxed as it is."

Posted by: Washington13 | April 4, 2010 10:29 AM | Report abuse

I have about 1000, most professional type, clients. I haven't heard ONE who will not be anxious to return to the polls in November to rectify what they percieve is a dangerous swing away from our Constitutional rights and a stampede over the cliff into national bankruptcy. And in our area, we have one in four either out of work or working part time. No government spending has helped these folks and the new health plan will force huge costs on everyone, especially small businesses. The level of ANGER I see in people is palpable and even a bit scary and it will result in a huge swing in the Congress in November - mark my words.

Posted by: DennisinOhio | April 4, 2010 10:26 AM | Report abuse

Being a member of the world community, I live in the house of my father with all my brothers and sisters. It is a house known as America, a place of many faults (which I try to teach my students about daily.) When my father speaks I listen. If he asks me to help my brother or my sister I do so. When our leader asks us to help by providing insurance, he does so to shelter us all and keep us well. I will do as my father asks and pay my share, and soon the richest of the rich shall pay too. If some of you white middle class don't like it, there may be chances to be re-educated in the future. And I look forward to volunteering with whatever program my leader wants to institute in that respect as well, whether they be mandatory seminars, or mass educational outings held for the "Tea Party" baggers and other capitalist offenders. It will not be long before you understand that change is coming whether the rich, privlidged few in Escalades want to accept it or not. But you WILL accept it and you WILL know that to go against your country and your brothers and sisters in this big house of ours, means to subject yourselves to the courts. The law is watching and the people will see to it that you and your children will be taught to understand what it means to be a world citizen. Abide by what He asks.

Posted by: Changemovingforward | April 4, 2010 10:24 AM | Report abuse

Raising taxes is irrelevant. We've already set in motion the collapse of our currency. Our present National Debt is $12 trillion, and this is expected to double to over $24 trillion in the next decade. To put this number into context, To put this in perspective, a total of 161,000 tons of gold have been mined in human history, as of 2009. This is roughly equivalent to 5.175 billion troy ounces, which at $1000 per troy ounce, would be $5.2 trillion. So even if we gathered up all of the gold in possession of people everywhere in the world, we'd only be able to pay off half the present National Debt, or 1/5th of what it will be in 10 years. Raising taxes is not going to stop us from having our currency collapse.

Posted by: tyronej | April 4, 2010 10:21 AM | Report abuse

To Jupiterrlphie,
The abortion may be a hollow subject to you, but I believe in the sanctity of life. I DO NOT want to pay for the killing of democrat babies. There is NO assurance that this will lower the deficit. Garbage in, garbage out. As to where I get my information, you might try looking deeper for the TRUTH. Keep your head in the sand, no problem. I like to stay with the FACTS.

Posted by: cgjurgens | April 4, 2010 10:14 AM | Report abuse

Obama is a legend in his own mind. There he goes again, filibustering a citizen and "getting in their face".

I wouldn't be surprised if that poor woman isn't the subject of an IRS audit and a "special commentary" by Keith Olbermann featuring her personal and private information.

Posted by: MikefromSaline | April 4, 2010 10:13 AM | Report abuse

@jupiterralphie

1) My husband runs a company with 225 +- employees. His small business will be unable to absorb the costs associated with this debacle, and will be forced out of business. Instead of parroting the lies of this administration, why don't you do some research?

2) For those who say this will reduce costs for all, I ask you to tell me how. If I pay for my health insurance today (and I do), and my taxes will increase immediately yet no benefits will be realized until 2014, how am I saving one cent?

Another liberal who hasn't read this bill weighs in on how we will all benefit from this tyranny.

Posted by: Sheila28 | April 4, 2010 10:12 AM | Report abuse

Warning to all Republican politicans. If you think that the people are going to vote you back into office in November without you promising to repeal ObamaCare you are sadly mistaken. We don't really trust you guys much more than the democrats and there is no way November 2010 is about you maintaining power, it is about the people taking back power from both parties. But you already know this, which is why you keep trying to denigrate any leader who isn't under your sway. I like millions of other Americans want to end this socialist's move toward destruction, but not enough to be double crossed again by republican hacks.

REPEAL OBAMACARE means exactly that, and now not later. IF YOU DON'T believe we can get a veto proof majority in NOVEMBER 2010 than that only means you don't understand how ticked off we are and you are going to have to step aside as well. Deliver or resign.

Posted by: nickel1951 | April 4, 2010 10:11 AM | Report abuse

“The danger to America is not Barack Obama but a citizenry capable of entrusting a man like him with the Presidency. It will be far easier to limit and undo the follies of an Obama presidency than to restore the necessary common sense and good judgment to a depraved electorate willing to have such a man for their president."

"The problem is much deeper and far more serious than Mr. Obama, who is a mere symptom of what ails America. Blaming the prince of the fools should not blind anyone to the vast confederacy of fools that made him their prince.

The Republic can survive a Barack Obama, who is, after all, merely a fool. It is less likely to survive a multitude of fools such as those who made him their president.”

Charlietuna said that. Don't know if he copied & pasted or authored it. But damn, that is unvarnished, instinctual, divinely inspired truth. Not only do we have to rid ourselves of the mole in the White House and repeal his worthless legislation; we still have the task of correcting 60+ years of left wing education and other institutional propaganda. Tea parties, renewed iterest in local politics, election of conservative candidates and massive response to left wing incentives must continue to escalate. So far, so good, but so little time.

Posted by: phalloides | April 4, 2010 10:08 AM | Report abuse

Hey Kevincondor - You don't need a Yale or Harvard Law degree to understand the US Constitution. Try reading it and then comparing what is in the Health Care Ripoff and note the glaring inconsistencies such as forcing people to buy products and services they don't want. Oh and as for the 'Budget Resolution' that came out of the Senate to 'fix' the previous ripoff - according to the Constitution, budget bills must originate in the House.

Posted by: rickprice407 | April 4, 2010 10:07 AM | Report abuse

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From a rising star in the Tea Party movement.

Posted by: Roger9 | April 4, 2010 10:05 AM | Report abuse

The Obama people, not the clueless but the devious, know what they are doing.

They aren't really European Socialists any more than Obama is really a moderate, they are communists pure and simple.

They have been hiding behind this code word "Progressive" for decades ever since the late 1970s when they offically changed their name and dropped Communist Party of the United States. So don't think there is one degree of difference between them and what we have in other Communist countries. They are all for the people and democracy until the public catches on to them and starts to push back. That would be right about now.

Watch out over the next seven months as they start to take the gloves off and show their true colors. They know that we have caught on to their true nature and they know they are going to lose big in the midterms. Communists don't tend to give power back once they have stolen it.

As Communist China is found of pointing out that they have brought 400 million chinese out of poverty. The Obama administration is constantly telling us what great things they have done for us. What they neglect to tell you is that the Communist Chinese had to kill 80 million of their own citizens since 1949 in order to keep them in line.

Obama is just another face to the same old totalitarian dance. The mask is starting to slip. The next act won't be so benign.

Posted by: nickel1951 | April 4, 2010 10:03 AM | Report abuse

Shame on the author of this article. The story is incomplete. Without getting Doris's response to the President's answer, you have corrupted your report. Did she belief she had received an appropriate response? Did she come away from the President's address with the revelation that in fact she was not "over taxed"? This is typical reporting from left wing rags like the Washington Post. You manage to get the left's talking points into your articles, while ignoring the oppositions arguments.

Posted by: ksplan | April 4, 2010 10:03 AM | Report abuse

Obama doesn't care about anyone except Poor people, if he can make everyone poor he can have a country like Hugo Chavez. All the poor people there rely on the government for any kind of scraps after the people in power take their share

Posted by: interloper5 | April 4, 2010 10:03 AM | Report abuse

It's funny how no matter what Mr. Obama does to mess up our economy, foriegn relations, etc. the people that voted for him will defend his actions almost like they are in a cult, and won't let go of their ideals. I thought he sounded like a car salesman while running for office, and even more now! Since I didn't vote for McCain either, I guess I have to accept whatever is dished out, but I don't have to like it. By the way to the guy that posted the Mouth Breathing Drudgetards, Thomas Edison, Henry Ford, and Benjiman Franklin did not graduate either, so I have no problem with the company if thats the group I'm tied in with.

Posted by: chuckyd1 | April 4, 2010 10:01 AM | Report abuse

Kevencondor:

Long on name calling. Short on substance.

Posted by: sombreropoint38 | April 4, 2010 10:00 AM | Report abuse

I wonder if he'd be kind enough to give us a 17 minute explination as to where his birth certificate and college transcripts are? The Kenyan is at it again! It's high time to break out the brooms for a clean sweep come November. That is the only way he can be contained. Let's starve the beast!

Posted by: sleestack108 | April 4, 2010 9:57 AM | Report abuse

Another Obama Lie:
"Number one is that we are the only -- we have been, up until last week, the only advanced country that allows 50 million of its citizens to not have any health insurance," he said.

The number is really around 45 million that breaks down as follows:
#1 10 Million of those are actually Mexican Citizens.
#2 10 million can afford the coverage, but choose not to buy it. It is NOT that we don't allow them to have coverage.
#3 11 million fall in the Medicaid elligible and Midivcade undercount category.
#4 5 Million are very healthy 18-34 year olds.
#5 That leaves under 11 million who need some help.

The president was right about there being a lot of misleading information out there. Unfortunaltely, he is the source of much of it.

Posted by: SayWhat4 | April 4, 2010 9:56 AM | Report abuse

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Posted by: TeaPartyFlags | April 4, 2010 9:52 AM | Report abuse

The struggling tax payers are getting burned with this guy. He, like all repressive Cult of Personality figures around the world, believes that citizens are merely the property of the state as well as their blood, sweat and fruits of their labor.

Essentially, he does not have any problem with the concept of "Slave of The State" for the common citizenry.

This has been tried around the world and can only work in repressive societies.

Tyranny and oppression. Its written all over this Cult of Personality figure. Pol Pot came across as a mild mannered professor. Kim Jung Il also comes across in a similar way.

Peel back the BS state media cover on those figures and their repression and brutality is horrific and legendary.

Posted by: C0rrupt_0_Crats | April 4, 2010 9:50 AM | Report abuse

Me thinks the dummy is being paid by the word OR He is finally starting to crack up realizing that the jig is up and he's been recognized as the fraud he is. When he walks off the stage into history's dust bin he can visit Nixon. They can talk each other to death.

Posted by: rhulten1 | April 4, 2010 9:50 AM | Report abuse

what a frucking jerk rrrrrrrrrrrrrofffff!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: gtx446 | April 4, 2010 9:49 AM | Report abuse

what a fruc jing jerk on off!!!!!!!!!!1 did anyone wonder why didnt hussain obama didnt mention anything about easter a christain savior or passover jewish supper.. why didnt he???/ because the idiots of this country voted for a a facist muslim.. dopes

Posted by: gtx446 | April 4, 2010 9:48 AM | Report abuse

the clinics have had the same funding for decades through several republican administrations. Your anti-abortion arguement is a hollow anti-democrat arguement.
Bush was in office for 8 years, controlled both houses of congress, which sets the agenda and even had a majority of the supreme court. Yet what did you get?
I guessing you only have read what fox has told you about the bill.
Even the CBO has said this bill will save over a trillion dollars.
It will actually cost small business less, individuals less, by removing tax credits given to INSURANCE COMPANIES and instead give them to us.
So you are against reducing the deficit and allowing the uninsured to aquire healthcare at the same time?

Posted by: jupiterralphie | April 4, 2010 9:47 AM | Report abuse

Rionorte wonders if the questioner was a plant. This is quite revealing of the socialist mentality, e.g. Just asking if we are paying too much in taxes is so inappropriate that the questioner must be a professional troublemaker. How dare a taxpayer question the level of taxes ! Their job is to pay ! Not to question !
Well I do HOPE for CHANGE, but I am fearful that it is too late. Once a voting majority is on the teat of the government, freedom from government becomes a pipe dream.

Posted by: bebgsurg
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That's not a "socialist mentality" but a socialist tactic; namely disarm your opponents by demeaning and deligitimizing them. As I stated in another post, the Obama media will set out to destroy "Doris" in much the same way that they attacked "Joe the plumber". Anyone who has the temerity to ask questions of the annointed one will be systematically disassembled and disavowed. Until the socialist-in-chief took office, dissent was considered "patriotic". Now, any dissent is dismissed as racism or deemed iligitimate.

Posted by: freepost | April 4, 2010 9:45 AM | Report abuse

"""''WELCOME MOUTH-BREATHING DRUDGETARDS!

Q: What do Drudge, Limbaugh, Hannity, and Beck all have in common?

A: None of them could even graduate from college.

Yet you trust Drudge to control YOUR information about economics and tax policy!

Posted by: kevincondor0713''"""

Kevencondor:

Bill Gates is on the list, too. So what's your point? It's intellectual elitists like you that need your issues spoon fed by the major media. Go find a good conservative to sit you down and help you understand where the country is heading. Disengage your need to be 'right' and try to use the expensive college education.

Posted by: oswego25 | April 4, 2010 9:45 AM | Report abuse

Absolutely brilliant come back, Mr. Condor. For once in your Lefty life, drop the name calling, the slander and address the issues at hand. You convince no one with your effete condescension. And BTW, wise up, Mr. Drudge just delivers the news and does not purport to be an economist. Yet another Lefty tactic and hobby of your great leader: Knocking down the straw men they so readily create, in their attempt to bamboozle.

Posted by: joey1231 | April 4, 2010 9:44 AM | Report abuse

barry X, the abandoned b a s t a r d of an illicit union between a deranged, teen aged, communist w h o r e and malcolm X, has his instructions from london to permanently destroy America and her economy via debt, euthanize the greatest generation, demoralize her military via homosexuality and exhaust it in a wild goose chase in the "graveyard of empires", and disarm it via fiat. He does hate America, especially White America, and does love his works of treason and destruction. It is through this that all his actions may be understood.

I hope the military honors their oaths, steps up and eliminates this a s s h o l e. This son of a w h o r e is the walking definition of a "domestic enemy" and we won't sit still anymore for his treason.

NEVER EVER forget the mainstream media that conspired to foist this muslim nation wrecking b a s t a r d on America is responsible. They intentionally sold us this traitor.

The democratic soviet is comprised of 22% of the population (blacks, jews, queers, transgenders, communists, and abortionists) An amalgam of misfits tied together by nothing more than malevolent envy and hate for Natural Law.

This man is actively destroying an America he was raised to hate, is supported by communists in the media and must be neutralized for the good of all.

It should be considered that barry soetoro is a communist or muslim plant groomed to completely destroy America fom within.

Posted by: liberalsodomy | April 4, 2010 9:43 AM | Report abuse

An vastly inappropriately length, rambling answer is the hallmark of Socialist Dictators and other tyrants throughout history.

Study any one of them. Stalin, Hitler, Kim Jung Il, Castro, Pol Pot, Hussein, any leader of a repressive society.

This type of overly long rambling response is quite simply bizarre in American culture. This is the type of thing that we see in foreign cultures. Not seen in America from a president.

Americans expect their president to be short, spot-on, and directly to the point. Americans quickly spot someone who doesn't have an answer and is trying to BS them.

Obama has been exposed.

It tells us many things about Obama but number one it tells us this is a weak spot he has no defense on. That try as he might, he has and intends to further break his promise about taxation. That in the end, like all those raised in deep Marxist indoctrination, he believes that the people are slaves of the state. Their earnings are not theirs nor are their lives. They belong to the state and self proclaimed elitists who run the state.

Posted by: C0rrupt_0_Crats | April 4, 2010 9:43 AM | Report abuse

Gee, I wonder who will be paying for all these wonderful socialist programs when the wealthy have picked up and left the country. Hmmmm

Posted by: thebink | April 4, 2010 9:42 AM | Report abuse

The man is a pig and completely unqualified to lead this glorious nation. It is embarrassing to see him traipsing around the world on our behalf. The animal must be removed in 2012.

Posted by: DCer1 | April 4, 2010 9:42 AM | Report abuse

Get the guy off his TelePrompTer and he sounds as dumb as Bush!

Posted by: NormReisig | April 4, 2010 9:41 AM | Report abuse

Thank you Martin Luther King Jr. for understanding how our Legal Republic works and using it to free people.

Our Legal Republic is seldom in use today. In our U. S. Constitution in our Republic, the Majority is limited, under our written

Constitution, thus safeguarding the rights of The Individual and The Minority.

Our Republic versus a democracy, the very opposite of our US and state Republics. All you hear today from the uneducated is in our democracy...yada, yada.

This is about a legal matter, not about a birth certificate or being a born citizen. It is about our U. S. Constitution being selectively enforced. The dual Citizen(?), Obama, legal authority to be President of the United States. You have to be a Constitutional Natural Born Citizen to be President of the United States.

SCOTUS 88 U.S. 162 Minor v. Happersett Argued: February 9, 1875 --- Decided: March 29, 1875 "The Constitution does not, in words, say who shall be a Natural Born citizens. Resort must be had elsewhere to ascertain that. At common-law, with the nomenclature of which the framers of the Constitution were familiar, it was NEVER DOUBTED that all children born in a country of PARENTS who were it's CITIZENS became themselves, upon their birth, citizens also. These were Natural Born citizens, as distinguished from aliens or foreigners."

Every Congress man, every judge, every person who took and oath or affirmed to uphold the U.S. Constitution but didn't, will be shown to be a traitor to the United States and our U.S. Constitution.

That includes George W. Bush, Dick Cheney, my own Republican Congress men and all the State governors of their Republics. Because Obama is not a Natural Born Citizen!

Live links to real source records on my web page. Not what fool talking heads or straw man left of center Fox feeds you.

For true source records not taken out of context. http://homepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~texdick/obama.htm

Posted by: texdix | April 4, 2010 9:39 AM | Report abuse

Electing this pig to the WH is the single greatest mistake ever committed by the American people. His administration is nothing less than a threat to the vitality and survival of this glorious nation. An incompetent empty-suit ideologue, this animal must be removed in 2012.

Posted by: DCer1 | April 4, 2010 9:39 AM | Report abuse

He really strugles to get and stay focused on touchy topics without his teleprompter guiding him.

Posted by: SayWhat4 | April 4, 2010 9:39 AM | Report abuse

...and the fact that all "advanced and enlightened" countries who offer cradle-to-grave subsidies to their citizens are all following Greece off the economic cliff doesn't seem to faze the Bamster....

Posted by: ddaly7 | April 4, 2010 9:39 AM | Report abuse

Well, I tell you, Obama ain't dumb. Don't get me wrong, I surely don't like what he is doing, but he is not dumb, he passed a socialised health care bill over the will of the majority of Americans. There is rumblings of revolution, and with good reason. America is not Europe. Hell, we don't have enough money to fund the entitlements we already have without raising taxes, and he is adding ANOTHER 30 million people to a system that was failing. and says it won't cost anyone making under 200 grand a year. Well, I just got one thing to say to that. Keep your butt cheeks squeezed shut. The rich is already paying most of the taxes, Obama is going to have to get a lot more money from somewhere. Guess where. My money is betting it will be the middle class, in other words, me and you.

Posted by: oildad | April 4, 2010 9:38 AM | Report abuse

kevincondor0713:
Q: What do Drudge, Limbaugh, Hannity, and Beck all have in common?

A: None of them could even graduate from college.

Yet you trust Drudge to control YOUR information about economics and tax policy!

Ummmm....and yet, they are three of the top people to ever set foot in their respective fields. That used to be a compliment. I still think it is, because most of that only happens in America. Get a life!

Posted by: enough9 | April 4, 2010 9:38 AM | Report abuse

This guy is fake, a bum, a liar. I want to out of there but I shudder when I think of the replacements for him. He's a one-termer. He will be down as the worst president we've ever had. He has set the blacks in politics back for many years. All those whites who voted for him can't sleep at night and will never make that mistake again. This administration is straight out of Animal Farm. We need to get rid of these dumb Democrats this November and we might just have a chance at saving this country. We need the Supreme Court to step up and start telling this ahole that he is doing things illegally and must follow the constitution.

Posted by: VotersOfNY | April 4, 2010 9:38 AM | Report abuse

Newsweek boasted on their cover last year "We are all socialists now."

They honestly believe that they have taken over the US.

Posted by: pkhenry | April 4, 2010 9:38 AM | Report abuse

Quite a lot of reaction here. And some of the most thoughtful reasonable posts I have seen,less the Lib copy and pastes ad nauseam.

There is new hope and change....lets change the diapers and hope for fresh air. Its stifling in here.

Posted by: MarkBench | April 4, 2010 9:37 AM | Report abuse

To jupiterrlphie
Now for the Constituion, the progressives thinks this is a silly and out dated document. This will be the first time the government has used the commerce clause to mandate we buy something. What if they decide we must all buy buggy whips? I am sure they will give us all a horse and buggy. Oh and where to keep the horse? Where is there an end to mandates due to the commerce clause?

Posted by: cgjurgens | April 4, 2010 9:37 AM | Report abuse

Next time this stooge appears on stage with the folks wearing the white coats, I hope they are coming to take him away...

Posted by: freepost | April 4, 2010 9:35 AM | Report abuse

And if you EVER ask that question again, you will receive a 34 minute 24 second response totaling over 5000 words!

Keep a lid on it you stupid conservatives

Posted by: idiocy | April 4, 2010 9:35 AM | Report abuse

IDIOT-IN-CHIEF? OR LYER-IN-CHIEF?
I say both + A COMMUNIST!

Posted by: JephroB | April 4, 2010 9:35 AM | Report abuse

Barry, you sneaker, you. Using that old trick from Freshman Speech class...make the answers loooonnnngggg and you'll have fewer questions to deal with. ROTFLMAO... and some of you actually voted for him.

Posted by: WeThePeopleUSA | April 4, 2010 9:34 AM | Report abuse

How is he going to deal with an international crisis if he can't deal with a simple tax question? He wil NEVER admit he lied, thus he will never make correct decisions, only cover my grass decisions.

Posted by: bboodry | April 4, 2010 9:34 AM | Report abuse


Obama is turning into a fruit loop.

He really needs to slow down on the drinking and smoking.

Posted by: bobfanderson | April 4, 2010 9:32 AM | Report abuse

Rionorte wonders if the questioner was a plant. This is quite revealing of the socialist mentality, e.g. Just asking if we are paying too much in taxes is so inappropriate that the questioner must be a professional troublemaker. How dare a taxpayer question the level of taxes ! Their job is to pay ! Not to question !
Well I do HOPE for CHANGE, but I am fearful that it is too late. Once a voting majority is on the teat of the government, freedom from government becomes a pipe dream.

Posted by: bebgsurg | April 4, 2010 9:32 AM | Report abuse

Hey kevincondor0713 -

It would seem the four conservative gentlemen you attempt to denigrate have done just fine, especially financially, without college. Forty years ago, college meant something. Today it means you spent thousands of dollars and untold number of seat hours to become a snot-nosed obama zombie bagging groceries at Publix.

Posted by: spidermike | April 4, 2010 9:31 AM | Report abuse

Don't look at the man behind the curtain! The great and all-powerful Ozbama has spoken!

Posted by: JoePublic55 | April 4, 2010 9:31 AM | Report abuse

jupiterralphie you either are just kidding or you never read any part of your beloved bill. The bill allows tax dollars to pay for abortions by allowing them at the federally funded clinics to be established under this mess. It places extra taxes on medical devices such as prosthetics, test equipment,monitors, etc. It forces insurance companies to pay for millions of dollars of care without allowing for rate increases unless approved by heir Commandant. This puts them out of business which is the whole idea. The goal is and always was a government takeover. The extra taxes and requirements makes businesses less financially sound forcing them to cut staff to satisfy the new scam. Never before in history has the Government mandated that citizens by a private product or go to jail, simply to be a citizen. It's a joke. Now it's your turn. You tell me how you add 30 million people to health insurance rolls, not increase the number of Doctors and hospitals, cut $500 million from medicare, not allow premium increases and not see costs skyrocket, treatments denied and care rationed. Use your head not Obamabot talking points. Try common sense, the results might shock you!!!

Posted by: yankee11 | April 4, 2010 9:27 AM | Report abuse

Apparently the WashPo doesn't censor adverse comments like the NYT.

Posted by: fkeady | April 4, 2010 9:23 AM | Report abuse

The President doth protest too much, methinks. The answer is simple really. When your government uses 2700+ pages of legislation to further tighten the bounds of economic slavery, it takes 2500 words to a simple question in a further attempt to obfuscate their true goal of destroying our beautiful Republic into a socialist dictatorship. Remember in November that these leftists must go. We must regain our freedoms lost soon or it will be irreversible.

Posted by: Czechbikr | April 4, 2010 9:22 AM | Report abuse

Does anyone wonder if the person asking the question was a plant?

Posted by: rionorte | April 4, 2010 9:21 AM | Report abuse

WELCOME MOUTH-BREATHING DRUDGETARDS!

Q: What do Drudge, Limbaugh, Hannity, and Beck all have in common?

A: None of them could even graduate from college.

Yet you trust Drudge to control YOUR information about economics and tax policy!

Posted by: kevincondor0713 | April 4, 2010 9:21 AM | Report abuse

to jupiterrlphie
Hurting business, did you not hear about all the write downs that had to be reported as these companies had a fiduciary obligation to their stock holders, by LAW. The silience of the PRO Choice crowd and Planned Parenthood. What might that mean? When you really Look at the bill and you see cut to medicare, cut to medicare, time and time again to the toon of 500 billion dollars. Do you think these cuts are not going to hurt the quality of there life and why else would you need death counseling? Does anyone not think this is all leading to rationing?? Study socialized medicine.

Posted by: cgjurgens | April 4, 2010 9:20 AM | Report abuse

During the campaign he lied and fooled a whole lot of Bush-fatigued yet hopeful Independents that he was a Moderate. Now those same Independents wised up resulting in his plummeting poll ratings. It's beyond policy and politics now, as fundamentally, he has lost the trust of the American people. As a leader, without trust you are toast.

Posted by: joey1231 | April 4, 2010 9:19 AM | Report abuse

When Obama was elected, I had a feeling he either was going to be the next Ronald Reagan (huge success) or the next Jimmy Carter (huge failure and in over his head). It is clear that he is the latter. The Democrats are going to get slaughtered at the polls in November and Obama needs a miracle to not get pummeled in 2012.

Posted by: GeorgePBurdell | April 4, 2010 9:11 AM | Report abuse

Mr.Obama's ego and self image is the 300 pound gorilla in the room. Watch out workers, its size alone is enough to trample you into the shape of a pancake.

Posted by: peru1 | April 4, 2010 9:08 AM | Report abuse

Does anyone wonder now why he almost always uses a teleprompter?

Posted by: edfo | April 4, 2010 9:06 AM | Report abuse

Meet the new boss. Worse than the old boss.

Posted by: jeffevans | April 4, 2010 9:05 AM | Report abuse

In support of Obama, the only thing his supporters posting here can do is bash someone else. Pure Alinsky and getting a little boring. Pretty sad that you can't come up with anything that has any substance. Guess that's because Obama himself has no substance. He's in way over his pay grade. Just look at his foreign policy, a total disgrace to our allies. Our next president will have a huge mess to clean up in 2013.

Posted by: lrvs | April 4, 2010 9:03 AM | Report abuse

Quantity vs. Quality.

Posted by: Washington13 | April 4, 2010 9:02 AM | Report abuse

He looks like the negros in the interrogation rooms of msnbc "Lockup" when their flimsy, incoherent alibi is blown up.

Posted by: liberalsodomy | April 4, 2010 9:02 AM | Report abuse

Why wouldn’t we trust Obama? Let’s see – he promised to run a publicly financed campaign and then didn’t He promised the Stimulus would keep unemployment under 8% and it went to 10%. He told us it would cost $787 billion, and a year later it’s up to $865 billion. He attacked Hillary for proposing mandatory health insurance, and that’s what he gave us. He slammed McCain for proposing taxes on employer-provided health benefits, which he just signed into law. No negotiations on C-SPAN or five-day review period as promised. That’s only a partial list. You tell me why ANYONE would trust him.

Posted by: njc201 | April 4, 2010 9:02 AM | Report abuse

Why wouldn’t we trust Obama? Let’s see – he promised to run a publicly financed campaign and then didn’t He promised the Stimulus would keep unemployment under 8% and it went to 10%. He told us it would cost $787 billion, and a year later it’s up to $865 billion. He attacked Hillary for proposing mandatory health insurance, and that’s what he gave us. He slammed McCain for proposing taxes on employer-provided health benefits, which he just signed into law. No negotiations on C-SPAN or five-day review period as promised. That’s only a partial list. You tell me why ANYONE would trust him.

Posted by: njc201 | April 4, 2010 9:01 AM | Report abuse

Turns out Barack is a really poor politician. Even crazy Uncle Earl knew how to answer this question in about 30 seconds. Give Uncle Earl 17 minutes, he could have time for Blaze, be sent to the nuthouse, and sign his own papers to get out of the nuthouse.

To steal a phrase from another Louisiana pol, Barack's so slow it takes him an hour and a half to watch 60 Minutes.

Posted by: bayoubengal | April 4, 2010 8:58 AM | Report abuse

to cgjurgens,
Please explain with some FACTS how this bill hurts business, kills babies and the elderly and how is it an assault on the constitution?

Posted by: jupiterralphie | April 4, 2010 8:57 AM | Report abuse

to cgjurgens,
Please explain with some FACTS how this bill hurts business, kills babies and the elderly and how is it an assault on the constitution?

Posted by: jupiterralphie | April 4, 2010 8:57 AM | Report abuse

Barry farts. The Post writes.

Posted by: jobro2 | April 4, 2010 8:57 AM | Report abuse

The reality is that Obama likes to hear himself talk. What he says is pure BS. Most people do not listen to him because he is short on facts ond long on BS if not outright lies and distortions. Please Mr. Obama, you have won. The election is over. Let us go about the business of putting our country back together again after you and all the other politicians, both Republican and Democrat alike have so screwed it up. Affordable housing and the mortgage debacle was not the tax payers idea, was it? It was governments idea and we get to pay for their mistake and then watch them blame Wall Street and each others policies. What policies? Do you mean tax and spend?

Posted by: nychap44 | April 4, 2010 8:54 AM | Report abuse

The election of obama proves true democracy won't work. Over 50% of Americans are stupid, uninformed or simply don't care.

Posted by: datatex | April 4, 2010 8:52 AM | Report abuse

BARACK = NARCISSIST MAXIMUS.

Posted by: rtrower | April 4, 2010 8:52 AM | Report abuse

Oh yes, the sun did come up, the birds are singing and the Presidents mouth is moving so he is lying. This President can put lipstick on this pig but it is still a pig. Americans have two choices, to stand in line like the Jewish people did or stand up for our great country and freedom. This bill hurts jobs, kills babies and elderly,and is an assault on our Constitution. I will gladly fight till my last breath for this great country and my grandchildrens freedom. When the bottom falls out of everything because of his spending, people will realize that this might be the least of their problems. Be prepaired for the worst and pray for our country as we are being divided on purpose. Divided we will fall but United we will Stand.

Posted by: cgjurgens | April 4, 2010 8:51 AM | Report abuse

To Anne Kornbut,
Are you kidding me? You actually write an article about counting words in an answer? You actually call yourself a reporter? Try reporting what was in the answer.
TRY, the FACTS.
Where you late on your deadline or are you just that lame?

Posted by: jupiterralphie | April 4, 2010 8:48 AM |