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Can Rand Paul defeat Jack Conway?

By Perry Bacon, Jr.
BOWLING GREEN, Ky.- As Rand Paul campaigned across Kentucky the past few days, he praised the state's retiring senator, Jim Bunning (R), for blocking unemployment benefits earlier this year. He talked about the importance of raising the retirement age.
 
And while the conventional wisdom is that the most positive candidate wins elections, Paul sounded at times depressed about the state of the country, declaring that "a day of reckoning is coming" and that "a debt bomb is out there ticking" if America does not do more to balance its budget.
 
Can Rand Paul win the general election? Paul easily won in a Republican primary in which voters were both very conservative and anti-establishment. Now he will enter a general election against an experienced opponent, state Attorney General Jack Conway, who won a close primary Tuesday and will be helped by national Democrats who view Paul as a potentially weak candidate.
 

And Paul will run in a state that is conservative and anti-Obama but has not traditionally been known as hot-bed of libertarian-style voters who want to cut drastically federal spending as Paul proposes.

Looking towards the general election, Paul is already taking steps to consolidate the Republican vote. While he distanced himself from the Republican establishment during the primary, Paul will attend a "unity" event on Saturday at the state GOP's headquarters where he will be joined the man he defeated, Kentucky Secretary of State Trey Grayson, as well Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.), who endorsed Grayson. Polls have shown many Grayson backers are wary of Paul.

And on Wednesday, he linked himself to the GOP more closely than he did for much of the primary. "I've been talking with the Republican Party structure. And I think we will be unified going into the fall, "he said on CBS "The Early Show."

But Paul says he won't change his core approach. "People are already saying now you need to weave and dodge," Paul said in his victory speech on Tuesday. "Now you need to give up your conservative message. You need to become a moderate. You need to up give up the Tea Party, you need to distance yourself.

But he pledged to continue to tout "tea party" themes.

"The tea party message is not a radical message. It's not an extreme message," he said. "What is extreme is a $2 trillion deficit."

Rep. Ron Paul (R-Tex), Paul's father, told supporters in Kentucky, "You think only the Republicans are disgruntled? Everybody is disgruntled, especially the independents."

Democrats are still eager to run against him.

"At some point, he's got to be for something," Conway said in an interview before the primary. "People are angry and frustrated and I'm somewhat frustrated, but the question is how do you use that anger. Do you use it to heat the building or do you use it tear the building down?

Conway said he would ask Paul "what's your dream for this country, you're against everything?

But Paul has some obvious advantages.

In a year in which voters seem determined to cast out the establishment, Conway may be the perfect opponent for Paul. With his legal background, polished looks and experience, Conway oozes traditional politician. (Conway's opponent in the Democratic primary, Lt. Gov. Daniel Mongiardo, ran an ad complaining Conway would join the other 200-plus lawyers in the Congress if elected)

Paul, meanwhile, is a eye doctor, has never run for office, wears wrinkled khakis and speaks in platitudes more than policies.

And many of Paul's ideas are not conservative, but populist notions that may seem impractical in Washington but get loud applause when touted to voters.

He constantly notes Congress should work through bills slowly and make sure the public has time to read them, balance the budget each year, figure out if its actions are constitutional, and have term limits. He praises capitalism, the free market and "freedom."

"They tell me they want me to wait to buy a gun, I tell them they need to wait to pass legislation," he says in a line loved by his crowds. "I propose they wait one day for every 20 pages, that will keep them busy for a while."

If the campaign does turn to specific issues, Paul will have to explain his opposition to the Department of Education, farm subsides, and other popular programs, as well as what exactly he will cut to balance the budget.

But Conway has backed the national health-care overhaul, which is highly unpopular in this state.

"If you look at all the polls, John McCain won Kentucky overwhelmingly in a not-so-good year for Republicans," Paul told CBS. "And President Obama is less popular in our state than he's ever been, and he never was very popular in Kentucky. So I think we have a very good chance in the fall."

By Perry Bacon Jr.  |  May 19, 2010; 1:44 PM ET
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Apparently it's un-American to be mad at BP over the oil spill now too. How on earth can anyone come up with these things? Rand Paul simply cannot conceive of the idea that anyone other than the government could abridge anyone's rights. To him, the government should never seek to defend the powerless or protect the rights of private citizens to avoid exploitation or harm.

In short, the guy has lived a life of privilege and cannot conceive of what life is like for anyone else. He's living in a utopian fantasy world.

Posted by: jeffwacker | May 21, 2010 12:45 PM | Report abuse

I shake in my boots every time I read words from uninformed people like,
"kentuckywoman2". Can they explain to me why it is wrong to want a Federal Government to abide by its "rules" in the Constitution? If the Federal Government does not follow the rules, or interprets them so broadly as to allow them to regulate how we use the wheat in our fields then we have a Federal Government that has to much power. To dismiss this means you have to dismiss thousands of years of abuse by those who hold great power have wrought on those without. Secondly, is it wrong to believe that true economic growth can only come about because of savings, and investment, not through spending and debt. If we don't change the way we operate all of the entitlement programs that liberals love will come crashing down anyway in about 30 years if we don't start to realize that we have to live within our means, and that there is no such thing as a free lunch. Does this mean that I am part of an illiterate racist group because I want a U.S. in which my children will be able to have a decent standard of living in the future??

Posted by: antiwar100 | May 21, 2010 10:20 AM | Report abuse

First of all, Kentucky ranks about 47th in the U.S. for quality in education - which means only 3 states rank lower.

Second, if you can believe it in this day and age, approximately 40% of the adults in Kentucky are illiterate!

Third, Kentucky is the only state in the Union that boasts a "Creation Museum" just as boldly as many residents boast that they've never voted and never intend to do so.

In other words, Kentucky is full of as$-backward, ignorant, uneducated people. There are only two cities of any major size and importance - Louisville & Lexington - and these two cities arguably contain the most numbers of educated individuals in the state.

They are also the only two progressive bastions in the commonwealth, as well.

When you're dealing with a bunch of uneducated, ignorant individuals that lack critical thinking skills and are easily led and swayed by emotional appeals designed to stir people up - that's exactly what you get. Mass mob ignorance.

Most people down here are literally too stupid to figure out that if they cut off their nose, they won't be able to breathe very well. But they'll do it anyway, if somebody that sounds just like them and looks just like them tells them to do it.

Folks, when you have a 40% adult illiteracy rate, you have to know that these people are not the brightest bulbs in the pack. Not being formally educated, they do not possess the same ability to reason as those who are well educated.

Furthermore, their ability to problem-solve is severely hampered by their lack of education and thinking skills.

So, most of the people here are easily scammed and duped. And are just too stupid to know it.

Need I say more?

Posted by: kentuckywoman2 | May 20, 2010 8:27 PM | Report abuse

As a life-time Independent, I think Paul's victory is awesome, for a specific reason. We finally have a candidate espousing the views of the Tea Party, and we will have a window into their sometimes radical, off the radar policy beliefs. He is acting like a cat finally out of the bag, and oh what HE is letting out of the bag!! We only have to give him rein, and pay attention. What I have heard already in the last two days is seemingly racist, bigotry filled ideas, strongly laced with the repukican capitalism rhetoric. This is not what I need to hear when considering giving the Tea Party Agenda a chance. No thanks.

Posted by: patriotgmalou | May 20, 2010 3:40 PM | Report abuse

THE DNC DOES HAVE AN ARMY OF PAID BLOGERS.

That would be blogGers and people commenting on posts are not bloggers. Another capitalized conspiracy theory from the right. I would only wish the DNC might pay me to comment on threads, but then again, I prefer that they put their money to good use, electing candidates.

There are 60 Senators and anyone who thinks that Rand Paul, if elected, is going to single handedly further his laughable mandate of ending all government programs, laws and institutions he doesn't like, is setting him or herself up for a major disappointment. Go ahead and elect a symbol instead of person. It will amuse the media, but otherwise is entirely self defeating.

Posted by: Koko3 | May 20, 2010 1:24 PM | Report abuse

zutelltom thinks he has raised a cogent argument with the question:

"How can this ignorant goofball be so absolutely against racism and yet still allow businesses to discriminate because it's "free speech"?"

I think I can answer, tom. The position is that racial discrimination is wrong, and stupid, but ordinary people have every right to be wrong and stupid if they choose. We are...or ought to be... free to speak as we like and to associate with whom we choose, even if others don't approve of our choices. There may be some market for "whites only" or "blacks only" or "freckle-faced-left-handed-transvestites only" social clubs or the like, but in general, discrimination is an irrational and self-defeating business practice, which ordinary market forces would minimize. In general, businesses that do not discriminate on irrational grounds would simply out-compete those that do.

The government, however, which represents all of us, cannot discriminate on the basis of race or religion, and still fulfill its purpose, so it cannot be permitted to discriminate on such bases.

There is a strong moral basis for prohibiting discrimination by the government that simply does not apply to discrimination by private citizens. There is nothing internally inconsistent about this position, as tom contends.

I suspect tom finds this position to be that of an "ignorant goofball" only because tom doesn't understand the argument... which suggests a certain irony in his use of the word "ignorant".

Posted by: Observer44 | May 20, 2010 1:09 PM | Report abuse

Looks like there's a lot of cognitive dissonance from people who think the government actually has money to hand out, and debt doesn't matter as long as it pays for "good" things.

The world is saturated with debt. Yet, people still think we can borrow our way to prosperity. I know this might come as a disappointment to many, but you really can't get something for nothing. Either we cut back now, or we wait until we have no choice.

The neocon and liberal politicians will likely be the last ones to notice that people have had enough of them. The magic money machine is worn out, and they can no longer use it to buy votes.

But it's obviously all about racism, right?

Posted by: MrTracker | May 20, 2010 12:15 PM | Report abuse

As one of the "lunatics" in Kentucky who voted to nominate Rand Paul to run in the general election in November for a U.S. Senate seat, if voting for Rand is "lunatic" I am a lunatic, and there are enough of us in Kentucky (and other states) to depose liberal Damnocrats throughout the nation. A plurality of one single bona fide vote will change the face of Congress for the next two years, and allow the newly elected Congress to cripple all of Big O's initiatives, and in 2012, when we elect a NEW president and retire Obama, in time that new president and the future congress will be able to turn back every single Obama initiative, get rid of his people, and make his single, four year term one big vacuous, silly experiment in secular socialism a thing of the past.

We, the people, are going to return us to a more predictable, righteous yesteryear, and do it fast enough to make your collective heads spin. It is the turn of the people to run things, and to get rid os a big number of fat cats "serving" in Washington. A huge tsunami is coming in American politics, sweeping away all the deadwood, and killing all the libs in congress.

Glory to GOD for what is about to happen in November in America in the politics of speaking truth to power.

Posted by: raymeo | May 20, 2010 11:40 AM | Report abuse

As one of the "lunatics" in Kentucky who voted to nominate Rand Paul to run in the general election in November for a U.S. Senate seat, if voting for Rand is "lunatic" I am a lunatic, and there are enough of us in Kentucky (and other states) to depose liberal Damnocrats throughout the nation. A plurality of one single bona fide vote will change the face of Congress for the next two years, and allow the newly elected Congress to cripple all of Big O's initiatives, and in 2012, when we elect a NEW president and retire Obama, in time that new president and the future congress will be able to turn back every single Obama initiative, get rid of his people, and make his single, four year term one big vacuous, silly experiment in secular socialism a thing of the past.

We, the people, are going to return us to a more predictable, righteous yesteryear, and do it fast enough to make your collective heads spin. It is the turn of the people to run things, and to get rid os a big number of fat cats "serving" in Washington. A huge tsunami is coming in American politics, sweeping away all the deadwood, and killing all the libs in congress.

Glory to GOD for what is about to happen in November in America in the politics of speaking truth to power.

Posted by: raymeo | May 20, 2010 11:40 AM | Report abuse

I love how people are using Rasmussen to say that Paul is ahead of Conway. Everyone who knows anything about politics knows that Rasmussen is tilted to the right, therefore, not a credible poller.

Posted by: rednaxela1 | May 20, 2010 11:36 AM | Report abuse

Hey jcat,
Here's a cogent argument: How can this ignorant goofball be so absolutely against racism and yet still allow businesses to discriminate because it's "free speech"? He cannot and will not be able to MAKE a cogent argument for that philosophy. As you saw in his pathetic performance on the R. Maddow show, he refused to answer the questions, and instead took the line of questioning as targeting HIS views on racism, when in fact, the question was about him allowing others to discriminate. So here is his stance: I abhor racism, but businesses can discriminate if they want to. How cogent is that?

Posted by: zutelltom | May 20, 2010 11:13 AM | Report abuse

Today's Rasmussen poll shows Paul leading Conway 59%-34%. Can he win? A 25 point lead is a good start.

Posted by: ath17 | May 20, 2010 11:10 AM | Report abuse

Why can't you people make intelligent arguments? You're all over the map here . . . from people dying of starvation to saying Rand Paul is anti everything from women to voting rights. Try to make an cogent argument. All I see on the left side is a lot of ranting with little substance. Considering what the "career politicians" have done to us, I am more than willing to see a new face with some fresh, new ideas in that seat.

Posted by: jcat918 | May 20, 2010 10:55 AM | Report abuse

The latest Rasmussen Reports telephone survey of LIKELY VOTERS in Kentucky shows Paul earning 47% of the vote to Conway's 38%.

Read and weep...

Posted by: HostileKnowledge | May 20, 2010 9:37 AM | Report abuse

People are starving in Kentucky? No doubt many people are having a hard time, but it ironical that the Dims are talking about starving people at a tim when Michelle Obama is pushing her obesity cause. America is one of those places in the world where the poor are overfed. The people of Kentucky need jobs, not food.

Posted by: RobbyS | May 20, 2010 8:16 AM | Report abuse

The answer is yes Jack Conway can beat the racist,homophobic anti-semite. The problem Rand Paul has is the same problem all of the Tea Party candidates have they don't stand for anything but bigotry that and almost double the number of Democrats as Republicans came out to vote in the Kentucky primary.

Posted by: mondaytothursday | May 20, 2010 8:00 AM | Report abuse

mibrooks27 wrote: "Woa! I didn't know the DNC had this many paid bloggers. Either that or there are a lot more mindless Obama lemmings running loose than I thought!"

DC Sage 1 wrote: Or maybe people wake up when a Klansman's bloody robes are pulled off. When a racist Tea Bag bigot has been masquerading as a cute libertarian who then starts to spout racist bilge, people take notice.

Is Rand Paul really just another little screaming, spitting Tea Bag bigot looking to hit it big on preaching racist hate? Is Paul a racist with blood and bile dripping from his gums while he burns with racist hate for his fellow Americans who are not Southern white guys?

Posted by: DCSage | May 20, 2010 6:54 AM | Report abuse

See, voting out people is good, BUT only if the people you send in will actually try to fix things. Rand Paul seems to want to actually fix things. No wonder both parties figured he had no chance.... they have learned over decades that nobody who votes actually wants to fix anything... if it means giving stuff up.

Posted by: steveboyington | May 20, 2010 6:42 AM | Report abuse

The real question about Rand Paul should be, is he just another screaming, spitting racist Tea Bag bigot? Is Rand Paul a cute little racist wearing brogands and short pants? Is he just another bloody-jawed white-supremcacist Klansmen giving aid and comfort to petty race discriminators and appealing to bigots who want to repeal the Civil Rights Act of 1964?

After sending the lapdog for Wall Street and Health Insurance company pimps to Washington, Mitch McConnell, will the good people of Kentucky now send the cute little racist hell-hound in shorts and combat boots to the Senate?

Posted by: DCSage | May 20, 2010 6:40 AM | Report abuse

THE DNC DOES HAVE AN ARMY OF PAID BLOGERS.
JUST WISH THEY GOT THEM SYNONYM DICTIONARIES.
"NUT" "NUTTY" O.K. I GET THE DRIFT.
PAUL JUST HAS TO REPEAT:"TRILLIONS" "DEBT"'OBAMA" "LIAR".
PAUL WILL BE FINE.

Posted by: beecheery | May 20, 2010 4:27 AM | Report abuse

THE DNC DOES HAVE AN ARMY OF PAID BLOGERS.
JUST WISH THEY GOT THEM SYNONYM DICTIONARIES.
"NUT" "NUTTY" O.K. I GET THE DRIFT.
PAUL JUST HAS TO REPEAT:"TRILLIONS" "DEBT"'OBAMA" "LIAR".
PAUL WILL BE FINE.

Posted by: beecheery | May 20, 2010 4:25 AM | Report abuse

Paul starts out sounding good but the devil is in the details which are eerily revealed as his discourse descends into madness. When Paul discusses the 1964 Civil Rights Act in terms of government institutions v. private property, and then states the law was really only meant to apply to gov. institutions (because the bulk of the law applies to government - that's his "proof"), you really got to wonder about his judgement. But he convinces you he is completely wacky when he compares discrimination against black people in a diner to our freedom of speech because you may say something that he himself doesn't like but you have the right to say it so even though, he - Rand Paul - would not discriminate (because it is ultimately bad for business and making money is the raison d'etre and foundation of our society which is Rand's bottom line as to what is virtuous) but since it is your property he would still defend to the death your right to discriminate in your restaurant ( although it would pain him to do so because he is also a nice guy)! - But he doesn't end it there. Seems that because people somehow may have the right to wear a gun in a snack bar that somehow also creates a complex paradox of the freedom of the property owner which Rand sees as solid proof that property owners should be able to discriminate. Isn't that abso clear? Paul is dismayed that the Civil Rights Act besmirtchs the purity of the right to bear arms. Yes, he is really that kooky spooky. And he cannot for the life of him even understand what the flap is about because, after all, he agrees with 90% of the Civil Rights Act that doesn't apply to personal property - so duh, what the beef? I got a chill down my spine as I listened to his seemingly sound arguments, spoken in dead pan seriousness, devolve into lunacy.
It is unfortunate that the media is giving so much space and free promo to Paul and so little to Conway. But hey, if you give him enough rope............

Posted by: maddymappo | May 20, 2010 3:15 AM | Report abuse

Error? sure

Posted by: lindarc | May 20, 2010 2:26 AM | Report abuse

Upon being asked some of the things he would do to fix the economy and decrease big government....he did a Palin; started to talk about something totally unrelated. Hey guess what, Paul has NO. absolutely no ideas.
Absolutely NOTHING. I was blown away...he ran on slogans, opinions (as opposed to facts) and no one absolutely no one heard any strategic plans, solid recommendations, etc. Tea Baggers are gullible and without ANY foresight...this is getting scary.

Posted by: lindarc | May 20, 2010 2:22 AM | Report abuse

Paul also wouldn't have voted for the Civil Rights Act.

Also, which is more unpopular in Kentucky? The health care reform bill or gutting social security?

That will tell you who will win.

Posted by: maritza1 | May 20, 2010 12:42 AM | Report abuse

Lets face the FACTS: Republicans (TEA party, etc.) have been and are utter complete lunatics.

To be exact not all Republicans are Lunatics, some of them are very very very smart actually. That is the Republican party is really composed of 2 distinct groups, well 3 groups if you include the paid agents of the 1st group:

1st group - The Super rich and Top brass of Big corporations (aka Wall Street gang) who want to make as much money as possible, damn be the American people or anyone else if that would reduce their ability to make $40Mill per year and fly in $50Mill private Jets, and this group controls the US Media to a 99% extent before the Internet and to a 95% extent after. For example nothing disgusts this group more than flying in a commercial flight, set aside God forbid fly in coach seat along with the lower classes that is the Middle class.

2nd group - Highly uneducated, untraveled, consumed by fear, consumed by anger, believers that Armageddon is coming and that in the ensuing world calamity which to their insane minds is good Jesus will take them to heaven in a Rapture, and other crazy's and "White Trash", who are easily brain washed by the lunatics of the right-wing Media to act against their own self interest and instead act for the interest of those groups that owns most of the US Media.

3rd group - The paid Agents of the 1st group working in the Media outlets that the 1st group owns, such as Talkradio (i.e., Limbaugh, Hannety, Beck, etc.), Fix news, CNBC, Wall Street Journal, Forbes, etc. etc., whose job is to LIE and LIE to brain wash the 2nd group, the "White Trash" masses, that the "Government cannot do anything", "Government is the problem not the solution", which is the "Ultimate Con Job" to have them, have us, pay Taxes but ask and get nothing for our Taxes.

More here:
http://RealNewsPost.com?n=think.34034


Posted by: RealNews1 | May 20, 2010 12:25 AM | Report abuse

I didn't hear tonight's interviews, but I did hear Rand Paul last week on TOTN, and I have to say it was the most evasive performance I think I've ever heard from a politician. I counted six times that he refused to answer even the most basic questions about how he might have voted on the extension of unemployment benefits. He kept giving his own statements, not answers. Instead, he voiced platitudes about "freedom" and "liberty" and "tyranny." This is the US Senate he's running for. Those sentiments might pass muster at the Tea Party rally, but we can ill afford to have more public officials who haven't got a clue about public policy. We need to set higher standards for public office, and the "throw the bums out" rhetoric is too simplistic.

Posted by: osullivanc1 | May 20, 2010 12:12 AM | Report abuse

Paul's totally evasive answers to today's interviews tell me he's just another tap-dancing politician-not too honest and not too smart. Please don't tell me you don't know how would you have voted on the 1964 Civil Rights Act. March with King and vote with Goldwater? Would someone tell him Goldwater later reversed his posiltion on the civil rights legislation.
Basically, Dr. Paul is Sarah Palin in trousers-The Loonie from Lexington!

Posted by: BBear1 | May 20, 2010 12:02 AM | Report abuse

Paul's totally evasive answers to today's interviews tell me he's just another tap-dancing politician-not too honest and not too smart. Please don't tell me you don't know how would you have voted on the 1964 Civil Rights Act. March with King and vote with Goldwater? Would someone tell him Goldwater later reversed his posiltion on the civil rights legislation.
Basically, Dr. Paul is Sarah Palin in trousers-The Loonie from Lexington!

Posted by: BBear1 | May 20, 2010 12:01 AM | Report abuse

He did himself no favor going on the Rachel Maddow show tonight. Being against privately owned venues open to the public obeying the 1964 Civil Rights act while claiming to abhor racism will be an issue that will haunt him come Nov. I thought Conway had no chance in a conservative state, but now I believe Paul to be beatable. His platform of retirement at 70, a 23% sales tax, abolishing the Federal Reserve, bring the troops home isolationism, repealing the health care bill, not only can't be done, but most people are against. I do give Paul credit for using the term take our government back, instead of the silly country back. I think children under 26 being covered under their parents plan in Oct. will move the bill's approval to the plus side in polls and in the voting booth.

Posted by: jameschirico | May 19, 2010 11:33 PM | Report abuse

Rand is even nuttier than his gold-bug dad. At least his dad has some conception of what more bigoted ppl would do with his other-worldly libertarian principles against civil right, or what more greedy people will do with less regulation.

But lemming like the tea-baggers [self described] and reactionary wing of the GOP will follow him and possibly the country over cliff.

Posted by: tedri50 | May 19, 2010 11:28 PM | Report abuse

Woa! I didn't know the DNC had this many paid bloggers. Either that or there are a lot more mindless Obama lemmings running loose than I thought! These idiots toss of the "racist" tag onto anyone they disagree with. It doesn't stick and has no basis in reality. But, then, neither does their continued faith in Obama and the Democratic Party. Guys, how many times do these cockroaches have to sell you out before you stop believing in them? How many more American kids need to die in these worthless wars in the Middle East before you wake up? How many more trillions of dollars will Wall Street take before you wake up? How many more American jobs need to be outsourced before you get truly angry? Since taking office, Obama has broken EVERY campaign promise he made and the dunces in the Democratic Party have walked the plank with him. Are you people really THAT stupid?

Posted by: mibrooks27 | May 19, 2010 10:59 PM | Report abuse

"Paul has already lost whatever shot he had at Mongiardo votes. He's a nut."
koolkat_1960

So, you are one of those delusional enough to think that Mongiardo, Democrats are so brain dead that they will vote for the Dem in this case Conway. Makes one wonder why they would vote for Mongiardo. Is it your opinion that Dems have no minds of their own, and cannot decide independently to vote for anyone outside the party?

Posted by: jonweiss1 | May 19, 2010 10:59 PM | Report abuse

Woa! I didn't know the DNC had this many paid bloggers. Either that or there are a lot more mindless Obama lemmings running loose than I thought! These idiots toss of the "racist" tag onto anyone they disagree with. It doesn't stick and has no basis in reality. But, then, neither does their continued faith in Obama and the Democratic Party. Guys, how many times do these cockroaches have to sell you out before you stop believing in them? How many more American kids need to die in these worthless wars in the Middle East before you wake up? How many more trillions of dollars will Wall Street take before you wake up? How many more American jobs need to be outsourced before you get truly angry? Since taking office, Obama has broken EVERY campaign promise he made and the dunces in the Democratic Party have walked the plank with him. Are you people really THAT stupid?

Posted by: mibrooks27 | May 19, 2010 10:58 PM | Report abuse

jonweiss, Paul has already lost whatever shot he had at Mongiardo votes. He's a nut.

Posted by: koolkat_1960 | May 19, 2010 10:40 PM | Report abuse

Rand Paul is such a cowardly racist. If he weren't so scary looking with either the world's worst comb-over or a dead animal on his head, it would have been almost funny to hear continually dodge Rachel Maddow's question about whether he believed that private businesses have the right to discriminate on the basis of race.

It was soooo obvious that he does, but he was too chicken to say so. One thing is for sure, anybody who would vote for him would have to be a racist.

Posted by: solsticebelle | May 19, 2010 10:39 PM | Report abuse

Rand learned from his Father to lie and smile for a vote. Rand now says his hero's are Rosa Parks and Dr. King. That comment was for Black votes. Next Rand will speak spanish and offer something for the vote. In the end Rand's plan is to repeal Civil Rights, Woman's Rights and Voting Rights. He'll remove the US Flag with the Confederate Flag. Rand like his Dad is a racist who knows how to hide it. Rand win the primary and has moved on to saying he will ran for President in 2012. How many other Republicans have done the same thing?

Posted by: qqbDEyZW | May 19, 2010 10:18 PM | Report abuse

SeanC1 _ your comments demonstrate your total ignorance of what the Tea Party stands for. First, the Tea Party would break up CITI, BOA, all of those Wall Street banks. We are the worst enemies they have on the plant. Furthermore, multinational corporations are ILLEGAL, non-COnstitutional, and would be wiped out. Likewise, the federal government is designed to be funded via the use of trade tariffs purposefully for simple expediency of discouraging, making it economic suicide, for a company to outsource jobs or manufacturing. You might mean our illegal and wasteful wars in Afghanistan and Iraq? You must be for them, because Mr. Paul would pull our troops back home tomorrow. So would any genuine Tea Party member. How about gay marriage and "choice"? The Republican old guard would outlaw them, but Tea Party members flat out don't care and think it is up to the voters to decide this (and, legalized abortion HAS been decided by voters in favor of "choice"). I happen to be pro- Gay marriage as are a significant number of Tea Party members. Does that bother you? We are anti-racist and, although you wont read in the Post, the Tea Party ran off the Aryan Nation bigots that appeared at a few early events. They DO NOT represent us. Actually, if you are a genuine liberal and not one of Obama's mindless lemmings, you BELONG in the Tea Party and have far more in common with Mr. Paul than you do with anyone in the Democratic establishment.

Posted by: mibrooks27 | May 19, 2010 10:16 PM | Report abuse

"No liberal, moderate or conservative voter can do anything but vote for him."

Why on Earth would a liberal (or moderate) vote for Rand Paul? He's the farthest thing from either of those beliefs.

"Do you think for one moment that Goldman Sachs or Big Oil will allow real regulatory reform? Not on your life. I am certain Paul and other congressional newbys have admirable intensions, but they will be hit across the forehead upon arrival to Washington by lobbying 101."

Not really important in Paul's case; he's opposed to government regulation in pretty much all forms. He'd probably like to disband the FDA.

Posted by: SeanC1 | May 19, 2010 10:03 PM | Report abuse

"I must be missing something regarding the coverage of Rand Paul's victory."

Yes you are missing something, you seem to be filled with the idea that in the general election, all democrats will vote the party line and not their own minds. Just because there are fewer registered Repubs does not mean that all of the Dems will vote for their parties candidate. If all of Mongiardo's supporters dislike Conway enough they could all turn to Paul in the general. I am pragmatic enough to know that this is a silly scenario, and will not happen, but oppositely assuming that they will all vote the party line is just as silly.

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Posted by: itkonlyyou70 | May 19, 2010 9:50 PM | Report abuse

In the '08 presidential race the nation had no real choice, we were handed a RINO (McCain) vs an ultra liberal narcissist (Obama), and we wound up with and are suffering from the delusions of grandeur of the ultra liberal narcissist.

This year in KY we have the choice of a libertarian loon (Paul) and a dedicated Democrat (Conway) that will vote the party line on every event. So we will have a very long period of misery until the next election.

The only real Conservative in this story, Senator Jim Bunning will be sorely missed.

Posted by: jonweiss1 | May 19, 2010 9:36 PM | Report abuse

How come Rand Paul won't answer the Civil Rights question with a straight answer.

This man is about as loony as Dottydo and Sarah Palin.

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Posted by: itkonlyyou70 | May 19, 2010 8:42 PM | Report abuse

Finally! A real choice between political parties.

The Democrats have a golden opportunity to contrast their vision with that of the Tea Party and remind people what their tax dollars pay for - how government programs keep parents out of the poor house and get kids a baseline education.

The Tea Party has a golden opportunity to explain why smaller government is better than bigger government - how competitive struggle is better than breeding lazy citizens forever dependent on the "nanny state".

Robin Hood vs. John Galt. Sweet. I hope Rand doesn't moderate at all.

Posted by: mikem1 | May 19, 2010 8:36 PM | Report abuse

Reality is inviting you guys to come back inside.

Rand Paul is a bonafide lunatic, and he has six months to fill the airwaves with unhinged libertarian junk, and fill them he will. He doesn't have any ideas, just appeals to anger, and anger is wearying. His nomination handed the election to Conway.

America is going to have to endure austerity measures, and soon, and they will be to be under responsible stewardship, which excludes even establishment Republicans, and emphatically excludes delusional dreamers like the Paul family.

Posted by: Noacoler | May 19, 2010 8:19 PM | Report abuse

Go, Jack Conway! Kick this cuckoo clock Paul (go to his website, listen to the ron paul blog rats who support him) to the curb. C'mon, great Dem turnout in the primary. LET'S SEE SOME MUSCLE!

Posted by: dudh | May 19, 2010 8:17 PM | Report abuse

The lesson of 2010 (and 2006 and 2008) is that the crazy wing of the Republican Party will purge all moderates in the primaries and the voters will reject the crazies in the general election. Rand Paul is interesting but his announcement that he has a huge mandate when all he has done is win a primary where nobody voted is naive and reveals hubris on top of extremism. Bad combo.

Posted by: djah | May 19, 2010 7:14 PM | Report abuse

One day into the general election and the disgraced Obama regime is already spreading rumors about Dr. Paul. I consider myself to be a moderate Republican (Olympia Snowe happens to be my favorite Senator) and don't like a lot of what Bush did -- and presently don't like a lot of the Tea Party's less than dignified tactics. But with Rand Paul I see a new way of dealing with our nation's problems and a breath of fresh air that may actually get broader appeal than what the failed Obama machine is hoping for!

Good luck to Dr. Paul!!

Posted by: chrojo01 | May 19, 2010 7:10 PM | Report abuse

According to a guest on Chris Matthews' show, Rand Paul told a Louisville, KY, newspaper that he would try to repeal the 1964 Civil Rights Act.
The private sector can handle any problems, he told the paper.
According to Ed Schultz, he's on record telling a blogger he would repeal the Americans with Disabilities Act.
Again, it's a nuisence for companies to have to deal with.
Then, there's the gold standard ...
That 19th century bugaboo that he supports ...
The Democrats should make him declare himself again and again in every forum they can find.
Just hope the Kentuckians don't have too many mint juleps before they go to the polls in the fall.

Posted by: Judy-in-TX | May 19, 2010 7:00 PM | Report abuse

More people voted for either of the two Democrats than voted for Rand Paul.


But that's a fact. Don't let that get in the way of your insisting that he has a chance.

Posted by: WillSeattle | May 19, 2010 6:46 PM | Report abuse

It seems to me an acceptance speech at an invite only country club is not the common man of the people, many conservatives think he is posting here. There is a rumor he did not take Grayson's concession call. How many in KY pay 23% in Federal taxes in his national sales tax proposal? The Tea Party does not want to cut the military and become isolationist like his platform. While KY has traditionally gone to the GOP and he should win, I would not call it a slam dunk over Conway. Nov. is a long way off.

Posted by: jameschirico | May 19, 2010 6:23 PM | Report abuse

"The reason President Obama is not popular in Kentucky because he is not white,"

I have a feeling it has more to do with him being a bad president. But believe what you want, if it makes you feel better about yourself.

Posted by: Ombudsman1 | May 19, 2010 5:57 PM | Report abuse

The reason President Obama is not popular in Kentucky because he is not white, something not to be very proud of. It is one thing to be against Washington, but quite another to propose policies that will help the people and will work.

Posted by: ak1967 | May 19, 2010 5:39 PM | Report abuse

The party of NO! No radical gays, no anarchists, no new taxes, no illegals, no to terrorists, no political correctness, no national healthcare, no government business takeovers, no government bailouts with OUR money. Yeah, the party of NO!

Posted by: jamespmarion | May 19, 2010 5:36 PM | Report abuse

Can Rand Paul win the general election,? the answer is a BIG NO--he's as nuts as Sarah Plain

Posted by: LDTRPT25 | May 19, 2010 5:32 PM | Report abuse

Can Rand Paul win the general election,? the answer is a BIG NO--he's as nuts as Sarah Plain

Posted by: LDTRPT25 | May 19, 2010 5:31 PM | Report abuse

The eccentric and impractical Rand Paul will be soundly defeated in November.

Having vanquished the weakened Arlen Spector, Sestak will easily defeat the GOP candidate in Pennsylvania in November.

This primary day was a major victory for the Democratic party and for President Obama. Things are looking up for the fall.

Posted by: dee5 | May 19, 2010 5:25 PM | Report abuse

"Though he could be interesting in the senate if he becomes a dealmaker working with others on reducing and capping farm subsidies and Pentagon bloat."

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Has any Tea Party candidate come out in favor of reducing military spending? That's usually a conservative "third rail."

Posted by: Robert_B1 | May 19, 2010 4:57 PM | Report abuse

Wait till AIPC comes after him.

Though he could be interesting in the senate if he becomes a dealmaker working with others on reducing and capping farm subsidies and Pentagon bloat.

Posted by: MerrillFrank | May 19, 2010 4:51 PM | Report abuse

"Of course Rand Paul can win the election in November. To suggest otherwise is the WaPo hack's version of whistling past the graveyard."

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Of course he can win. He's one of the candidates. The question is whether or not the Tea Party rhetoric can sustain him through the general election. I'll be interested to see if he makes it stick.

It also remains to be seen what he would actually do once in Washington. Activism is fairly easy; governing is difficult.

Posted by: Robert_B1 | May 19, 2010 4:43 PM | Report abuse

Wow, at this rate mibrooks's head will explode long before November. What a nut.

Posted by: koolkat_1960 | May 19, 2010 4:32 PM | Report abuse

If those in Rand Paul's district decide to send him to Congress they should not expect any results from that vote. For example, how much slower can an already slow Congress get and still pass any laws or appropriations? The public sends delegates to Congress because we don't have time to read every bill or proposal. We rely on reporters and organizations to tell us what is going on. The nation is too large to run as a Town Hall.

If elected Rand Paul will just be another ignored Congressman giving speeches to an empty House chamber for the cameras back home, but no partisan primary predicts who will win in November, and if news coverage alone elected candidates we would be electing terrorists to Congress.

Posted by: SeniorMoment | May 19, 2010 4:31 PM | Report abuse


Of course Rand Paul can win the election in November. To suggest otherwise is the WaPo hack's version of whistling past the graveyard.

Posted by: screwjob15 | May 19, 2010 4:18 PM | Report abuse

Ron Paul comes off as fairly humble and honest in spite of the fact that his politics are really pretty scary. Rand Paul seems to lack his father's intellect and he comes across as smug jerk. Good luck with that campaign!

Posted by: marSF | May 19, 2010 4:06 PM | Report abuse

The problem remains that Rand Paul gives just about the worst "interview" of any candidate I've every heard in following politics for a quarter century. I heard him on TOTN on 5/12, and he absolutely refused to answer the most basic questions about how he might vote of specific bills. I've never in my life heard such evasion. This is the hero of the Tea Party? His answers consisted of platitudes and cliches about "freedom" "liberty" and "tyranny." I don't know about you, but I'm tired of candidates who haven't got the slightest knowledge the issues. It hasn't gone too well in recent history, has it? Bone up on the issues, Rand, and save the empty rhetoric for the next Tea Party rally. This is a US Senate election!

Posted by: osullivanc1 | May 19, 2010 4:00 PM | Report abuse

Paul's win in KY is a eureka moment for those of us who want to purge special interests from Washington, but when the afterglow fades it is hard to imagine how the special interest culture will ever change in Washington, DC. There is far too much money and corporate access in Washington for Congress to ever cede decision making to "we the people." Do you think for one moment that Goldman Sachs or Big Oil will allow real regulatory reform? Not on your life. I am certain Paul and other congressional newbys have admirable intensions, but they will be hit across the forehead upon arrival to Washington by lobbying 101. Roll over.

Posted by: citizen4truth1 | May 19, 2010 3:54 PM | Report abuse

If he's half the man his father is, it's a slam dunk.

We need Congressional representation who have lived among us, not a bunch of tired old lawyers who live in gated communities and meet their constiutents only when they campaign.

I really don't care if he doesn't have the political savvy to play the games politicians play.

It will be refreshing to see real people in Congress, who address real concerns that affect real citizens.

It's been a long long time.

Posted by: asmith1 | May 19, 2010 3:52 PM | Report abuse

If he's half the man his father is, it's a slam dunk.

We need Congressional representation who have lived among us, not a bunch of tired old lawyers who live in gated communities and meet their constiutents only when they campaign.

I really don't care if he doesn't have the political savvy to play the games people play.

It will be refreshing to see real people in Congress, who address real concerns that affect real citizens.

It's been a long long time.

Posted by: asmith1 | May 19, 2010 3:51 PM | Report abuse

Does anyone on this blog understand that Bunning blocked the expansion of unemployment benefits because the Democrats would not utilize the available TARP money for this purpose???

Posted by: jhpbriton | May 19, 2010 3:38 PM | Report abuse

"Paul, meanwhile, is a eye doctor, has never run for office, wears wrinkled khakis and speaks in platitudes more than policies."

Leaving aside the liberal bias, I think this is the problem with most (though not all) of the Tea Party candidates. Railing against taxes and calling the president a socialist will only get you so far. Eventually, you have to describe what you would actually do in office.

Posted by: Robert_B1 | May 19, 2010 3:28 PM | Report abuse

I must be missing something regarding the coverage of Rand Paul's victory. He pulled in 18,000 fewer votes than the second place Democratic candidate. Democratic primary voters outnumbered Republicans by 169,000. Kentucky is a conservative state, but wouldn't Paul's numbers be telling a very different story if the generally accepted narrative for this campaign season wasn't that the Democrats are doomed?

Posted by: Dadzcanoe | May 19, 2010 3:28 PM | Report abuse

What plant do you come from? Our elected officials and their appointees are a collection of wealthy, self serving, smug, corrupt, cockroaches... and we're supposed to give thanks for that? Instead of actual representatives, you know, people who do what "we the people" want - things like ending job outsourcing, b ringing back trade tariffs to keep the junk from China and India from flooding our markets, breaking up those "too big to fail" banks and corporations using the Sherman Antitrust Act, NOT passing healthcare, NOT bailing out banks, NOT granting amnesty to the parasitical illegals taking our jobs and burning through scarce social services and educational money, NOT refighting the cultural wars, NOT even thinking about "gun control", and keeping their private parts zipped up... little things like that. Well, they have done pretty much what THEY want, once elected, ponied up to the corporate and Wall Street hogs trough, and only thought about us when the elections loomed on their doorstep. Now, by god, we mean to get even. If trade tariffs and punitive taxes aren't brought back to such a level that they make outsourcing impossible, if another ban or business is bailed out, if a whole bunch of Wall Street traitors aren't indicted, if the borders aren't locked down tight and measures taken to rounded up arrest and IMPRISON the illegals here, come election day there is going to be hell to pay.

Paul is exactly the opposite of the usual elected official. He will flat out destroy anyone running against him. No liberal, moderate or conservative voter can do anything but vote for him. A vote for politics as usual amounts to personal and economic suicide. End free trade, end the globalization schemes of the past three Administrations, America First.

Posted by: mibrooks27 | May 19, 2010 3:26 PM | Report abuse

Very doubtful that Rand Paul will win this November, or any November.

He is too extreme, lacks experience, not a real Tea Bag member, not much of anything except hot air. We have enough of that in Congress now.

This is very likely the last we will see of the Paul family.

Posted by: hfaulk01 | May 19, 2010 3:24 PM | Report abuse

Correction: Bush/Cheney $1.7 Trillion in Tax Cuts for the most Wealthy.

The Tea Party has a Clear Allegiance: The Rich, Oil and Coal

If the Tea Party was fighting for the average American, that would be great. But they are fighting for what's best for Wall Street Criminals, for Oil and Coal Industry Negligence resulting in Deaths and Pollution, and the Policies that allow them to continue doing so Without Oversight or Regulation.

Why isn’t the Tea Party organizing and demonstrating against Industries causing the Deaths and Lost Livelihoods of Millions of Americans?

Why aren't they protesting Lack of Regulation against Wall Street, Oil and Coal companies that are Killing People and caused the Financial Devastation of Millions of Americans?

Why aren't they protesting against BP and Halliburton's Gross Negligence in the destruction of Multi-Billion dollar Tourism and Commercial Fishing Industries in the Gulf Coast Oil disaster?

Because the Companies Responsible is who Started, Fund and Direct Tea Party actions.

The primary funding sources for the Tea Party are two conservative groups:

"Americans for Prosperity" and "FreedomWorks"

Oil and Coal Foundations which receive substantial funding from David Koch of Koch Industries, the largest privately-held energy company in the country, and the conservative Koch Family Foundations. Koch industries are responsible for hundreds of Oil spills spread over multiple states.

http://www.greenpeace.org/usa/assets/binaries/wanted-for-climate-crimes-cha

http://www.greenpeace.org/usa/campaigns/global-warming-and-energy/polluterwatch/koch-industries-secretly-fund

http://www.greenpeace.org/usa/campaigns/global-warming-and-energy/polluterwatch/koch-industries

You Say you want to End Agricultural and Farm Subsidies but not Oil Company Subsidies and Tax breaks. You Say you want to extend the Retirement age but nothing about cutting Medicaid and Social Security Expenses. Just like McConnell - you Say one thing - but It's Really all about supporting Oil, Coal and Huckabee.

Posted by: liveride | May 19, 2010 3:20 PM | Report abuse

WHEN IS SOMEONE GOING TO ASK RAND PAUL WHAT HE MAKES FROM MEDICARE AND MEDICAID?

Posted by: edismae | May 19, 2010 3:20 PM | Report abuse

Is Rand Paul the love child of Ayn Rand and RuPaul?

Posted by: sensible | May 19, 2010 3:11 PM | Report abuse

I got your 2 Trillion deficit right here: Bush/Cheney $1.7 Trillion in Tax for the most Wealthy and Least Likely to serve in the military between 2002~2007 while we were fighting in two wars and being gouged $4~$5/gallon for gas.

My Taxes and what I pay for Gas and Food is lower now than when Bush and Cheney were in office; but then again I make much less than 150k/year.

Time is long overdue for the Bush Era Tax cuts for the Rich to Expire.

Posted by: liveride | May 19, 2010 3:11 PM | Report abuse

Although Paul has some good ideas--we do probably need to raise the retirement age to reflect increased life expectancy--he is basically an idiot. The big worry about debt is that it will trigger inflation--someone should ask him about this morning's numbers showing the US slumping into deflation. Everyone knows we need to get the debt under control, but we need to do it in the context of recovery. To cut spending prematurely could tip us back into a real depression. Paul is a demagogue, leading the ill-informed, uneducated, and deluded.
It is proof of a bad cause when it is applauded by the mob.-Seneca

Posted by: scientist1 | May 19, 2010 3:09 PM | Report abuse

Paul comes off as totally unlikable and smug. And he is really all over the map as far as what he stands for with the one unifying theme being that he is slightly unbalanced.

Unless the entire state of Kentucky is populated by moronic teabaggers, I really doubt this guy will make it to the Senate.

Posted by: marSF | May 19, 2010 3:07 PM | Report abuse

"Relentless attacks from Democrats and withering support from Republicans, worried that the Hall of Fame pitcher was turning the party's message of principled objection to raging obstructionism, ended Bunning's stand. He had forced about 2,000 federal employees into furloughs and imperiled jobless benefits for millions. "

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And Bunning is someone that Rand applauds?? A man, who's family is no danger of starving, that forced 2,000 employees into unpaid absences and block benefits for millions of unemployed people with starving families??? Is this what the Tea Party is about? Increasing American suffering? Blocking money for jobs (stimulus) and those in need (unemployment benefits)???

Not surprising, considering that he's a wealthy, silver spoon, eye doctor who's family is probably eating well.

It's easy to stand on a soap box and preach down when your family is safe from peril.

Posted by: massmedia77 | May 19, 2010 3:01 PM | Report abuse

"People are angry and frustrated and I'm somewhat frustrated, but the question is how do you use that anger. Do you use it to heat the building or do you use it tear the building down?"

tear it down.

Posted by: NoVAHockey | May 19, 2010 2:49 PM | Report abuse

"And Paul will run in a state that is conservative and anti-Obama but has not traditionally been known as hot-bed of libertarian-style voters who want to cut drastically federal spending as Paul proposes. "

randy paul is no libertarian, he's a social conservative. He's anti-women, anti-gays, anti equal voting rights, anti-anything that's not white.

Posted by: newagent99 | May 19, 2010 2:38 PM | Report abuse

Let's face it - Paul would be a disaster for the folks in Kentucky - you only have two choices cut benefits (that means people die from starvation) or raise taxes (which means you piss off the people who contributed to your campaign) good luck Paul.

Posted by: agapn9 | May 19, 2010 2:35 PM | Report abuse

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