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Clyburn: Alvin Greene is 'someone's plant' in South Carolina

Updated 2:55 p.m.
By Garance Franke-Ruta
House Majority Whip James Clyburn (D-S.C.) articulated the suspicion of many South Carolina Democrats this morning by suggesting that the state's Democratic U.S. Senate primary victor Alvin Greene was a "plant."

Greene, who is unemployed and lives with his mother, was the come-from-nowhere winner Tuesday after earlier paying $10,400 to register as a candidate and then seemingly disappearing from view. On Wednesday, the state's Democratic leaders called on him to drop out of the race after it was revealed he has a felony obscenity charge pending against him for having allegedly shown a University of South Carolina undergraduate Internet porn and made "statements of going to the victim's room," according to the arrest warrant.

(Read a copy of Greene's arrest warrant here.)

Greene won the contest with 59 percent of the vote and is now the first African American major-party U.S. Senate nominee in South Carolina since Reconstruction. He defeated Charleston attorney Vic Rawl, a former judge who had served four terms in the state legislature.

Clyburn also said the U.S. attorney's office in South Carolina should investigate Greene's win, The Hill reported based on Clyburn's remarks on "The Bill Press Show."

"I think there's some federal laws being violated in this race, but I think some shenanigans are going on in South Carolina," Clyburn told Press. "Somebody gave him that $10,000 and he who took it should be investigated, and he who gave it should be investigated."

(See a copy of the handwritten "Alvin M. Greene for Senate" check here.)

"I would hope the U.S. attorney down there would look at this," Clyburn said.

"There were some real shenanigans going on in the South Carolina primary," Clyburn said. "I don't know if he was a Republican plant; he was someone's plant."

The Columbia Free Times notes that the state's baroque political culture has given rise to fake candidates in the past:

Republican place markers in Palmetto State Democratic primaries are campaign legend.
In the early '90s, a Republican strategist was prosecuted and forced to pay a fine when he was found to have coaxed an unemployed black fisherman into running in a primary race to increase white turnout at the polls in a Lowcountry congressional race. The political operative paid the man's filing fee.

Greene has denied being a plant, the Free Times reported.

Speculation about how Greene managed to pull off his victory has swirled, but there is still no clear answer. The Charleston Post and Courier reports:

State Rep. Bakari Sellers, D-Denmark, suggested Greene might have benefited from being listed first on Tuesday's ballot, but Fowler said the party's two relatively little-known Senate candidates in 2008 polled at nearly 50-50.
State Sen. Robert Ford, D-Charleston, who lost his gubernatorial bid Tuesday, said race could have played a role. The Democratic primary electorate is majority black, as is Greene, but not Rawl. "Vic Rawl had money, but he didn't have enough. He wasn't able to identify himself with black voters," Ford said. "No white folks have an 'e' on the end of Green. The blacks after they left the plantation couldn't spell, and they threw an 'e' on the end."....
Rawl's campaign manager, Walter Ludwig, said something more than racial politics was at work. "It wasn't just a lot of people deciding to vote for black folks, or Robert Ford would be on the ballot (in the November governor's race)," he said.

By Garance Franke-Ruta  |  June 10, 2010; 2:55 PM ET
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How about they just voted for him because he was black and had a d after his name. Isn't that what they did for the presidential election. I know I know that immediately makes me a racist, exept that I know a dozen people myself that used that logic to vote for obama. the latinos just used that same logic to vote for the mayor in my city who is a complete loser. Face it the sheep have spoken.

Posted by: mmartin3 | June 14, 2010 1:08 PM | Report abuse

Just how many air heads do we have in the United States? An imbecile can see this farce for what it is: A veterans who lives with his mother, $10,000 dollars last minute filing fee? Barely able to make a sentence. The shame is that so many of us are entertaining ourselves with comments! Wiser people are silent. You people need to get real!!!!!!!!

Posted by: thelma1 | June 14, 2010 11:11 AM | Report abuse

annmarie2: do you really need to post the same inanities three times? Once is too much! Greene won either because he was a Republican plant and the party machinery, knowing they weren't needed in the Republican primaries decided to invade the Democratic primary and nominate the weakest Democratic candidate against Demented. Or, the paperless ES&S machines were hacked by some insiders--election officials or contract techies--for the same purpose. Not the first time that's happened, of course.

Posted by: mikeberla1 | June 13, 2010 6:37 PM | Report abuse

F*** off Clyburn. The unknown candidate beat out the candidate that had machine money beind him. This type of thing happens all the time and is called an upset. Vic Rawls only had 4% name recognition in the state of South Carolina anyway. Alvin Greene needs the Democratic party to stand behind him and offer him the tools needed to be a viable candidate. He's nervous and alone, and it shows in his interviews. Dems need to support their nominee instead of tearing him down.

Posted by: annmarie2 | June 13, 2010 4:17 PM | Report abuse

F*** off Clyburn. The unknown candidate beat out the candidate that had machine money beind him. This type of thing happens all the time and is called an upset. Vic Rawls only had 4% name recognition in the state of South Carolina anyway. Alvin Greene needs the Democratic party to stand behind him and offer him the tools needed to be a viable candidate. He's nervous and alone, and it shows in his interviews. Dems need to support their nominee instead of tearing him down.

Posted by: annmarie2 | June 13, 2010 4:16 PM | Report abuse

F*** off Clyburn. The unknown candidate beat out the candidate that had machine money beind him. This type of thing happens all the time and is called an upset. Vic Rawls only had 4% name recognition in the state of South Carolina anyway. Alvin Greene needs the Democratic party to stand behind him and offer him the tools needed to be a viable candidate. He's nervous and alone, and it shows in his interviews. Dems need to support their nominee instead of tearing him down.

Posted by: annmarie2 | June 13, 2010 4:15 PM | Report abuse

What in hell is up with South Carolina? Is that state for real? And there are So. Carolinians on here saying Greene is legit? How embarrassing for the state. There are criminal elements at work here, and I hope they find the GOPSOB's and prosecute them for making a mockery out of the election process. I feel sorry for Greene. I doubt the poor man is capable of understanding how he was victimized.

Posted by: blosmurph | June 13, 2010 12:35 AM | Report abuse

Talk about bringing "SCIENCE" to an art-- well,Greene has. I am falling off my chair with laughter. Add this to winning elections "southern hospitality" style.

C'mon Alvin start talking. The joke is over. Who helped in planting your seed money? Enquiring minds want to know. Me too. http:// www.zipinpolitics.com

Posted by: Victoria5 | June 12, 2010 3:05 PM | Report abuse

DOH!!!!!!!!

Posted by: bflat879 | June 12, 2010 10:29 AM | Report abuse

It's amazing how politically un-astute some people are. Since the only person who stands to benefit from Greene's presence in the general election is Mr. DeMint, whose plant do YOU think Alvin might be?
Anyone who gets this wrong should stay home on election day:o))

Posted by: jimg38 | June 12, 2010 7:41 AM | Report abuse

People claiming he is a plant: do you have any evidence to suggest this? Such an act would defy logic, and politicians from any party can always do things which defy logic and even self interest, but it's not that common and you better have some evidence when you make such a charge.

Are Democrats so stupid that they repeat a talking point without any evidence to back up said point?

Posted by: TheLastBrainLeft | June 11, 2010 4:33 PM | Report abuse

I think the Republicans gave him the filing fee, then sabotaged the voting machines where they could, accounting for 100,000 votes for an unknown.

This is half as many votes as the Republican gubernatorial front runner in this vastly Republican state. These numbers make no sense unless it was sabotage of the voting machines.

Posted by: edismae | June 11, 2010 3:19 PM | Report abuse

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Ok, so what if he is a plant. I hope that the people of S. Carolina vote for him and he beats DeMint DeNazi. Greene certainly is the better choice between the two.

If the South like ignorance lets give it to them
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Posted by: rcc_2000 | June 11, 2010 2:43 PM | Report abuse

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Ok, so what if he is a plant. I hope that the people of S. Carolina vote for him and he beats DeMint DeNazi. Greene certainly is the better choice between the two.


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Posted by: rcc_2000 | June 11, 2010 2:43 PM | Report abuse

I wonder if he can produce his birth certificate. If he can, that would make him more qualified than Pres. Obama.

Posted by: seenyourattic | June 11, 2010 2:22 PM | Report abuse

Do the results show that perhaps South Carolina voters are stupid?

Posted by: janye1 | June 11, 2010 1:11 PM | Report abuse

I think that a look at the voting process is called for, it seems to me this might have been a test of voter fraud gone astray.
If people can intercept movies off the internet that have not been released yet, it's not a far reach that powerful groups are finding ways to get the desired outcome of elections, this just might have been a trial in a race no one would care about. No one probaly has a chance against Jim Demint, who would be watching if a Democratic canidate got a good amount of votes, but the trial got out of hand and the test case won. That I am sure was not the plan but the test over produced so the results are now being looked at,these computer no paper trail elections are ripe for fraud. An independant investigation must be called for by the state...no excuses, no hiding this under the rug, our freedom of choice may very well be in the balance here.

Posted by: dhead | June 11, 2010 11:36 AM | Report abuse

See how the Dem elitists react when an actual Democrat voter gets elected in a primary? By his comments, Clyburn puts the lie to the charge that the Tea Party is racist! Clyburn's viewpoint seems to be: "How dare a black, unemployed, possible felon dare dream that he might be elected to office in our party? There MUST be some skulduggery!"

Alvin Green, whatever you might think he is, is a dyed in the wool Democrat. He embodies a significant voting block that the Democrats believe they own.

So own it, Clyburn. You aren't a birther, but I guess you are a "planter".

Posted by: Redwarning | June 11, 2010 11:09 AM | Report abuse

Rawl should run as an Independent (if that is possible in South Carolina) - and surely the way Candidate Greene found his filing fee begs for investigation.

If DeMint gave him the money, will South Carolinians vote for an Independent?

Posted by: freedom9 | June 11, 2010 11:01 AM | Report abuse

""We Democrats just elected a complete unknown, who is a felon no less, because our party's primary elections are controlled by the Republican Party."

Typical Childlike Dim

Posted by: screwjob16 | June 10, 2010 7:59 PM | Report abuse"

If you're going to call other people childlike, you really shouldn't use the juvenile insult "Dim."

Posted by: koolkat_1960 | June 11, 2010 10:39 AM | Report abuse

My first question would be about South Carolina's primary procedures... are Republicans or Independents able to vote in the Democratic Primary?

If so, perhaps there is something rotten here... but if not, it seems silly to blame Republicans that Democrat screwed up their own primary.

Posted by: Iconoblaster


We don’t register by party in SC so voters can vote in either primary. I voted for Vic Rawl and watched the returns with astonishment. I kept asking my husband who could have voted for Greene since it was impossible to find out anything about him. Well, now I know – idiots who knew nothing about either candidate and voted for the guy listed first. And, no, I don’t believe Republicans were voting for Greene maliciously. There were only three statewide races for Democrats and far more for Republicans (if only one candidate in a party runs for a seat, that race isn’t even listed on the primary ballot, just in the general election.) Republicans wanted to vote in their own primary and, let’s be realistic, whoever wins the Republican primary is going to win in November 99% of the time for statewide races. There’s no way Jim DeMint is going to lose in November unless he starts hiking the Appalachian Trail. Nope, regardless of how Alvin Greene got in the race it was Democrats who voted for him.

Posted by: Paula_G | June 10, 2010 8:16 PM | Report abuse


"We Democrats just elected a complete unknown, who is a felon no less, because our party's primary elections are controlled by the Republican Party."

Typical Childlike Dim

Posted by: screwjob16 | June 10, 2010 7:59 PM | Report abuse


"We Democrats just elected a complete unknown, who is a felon no less, because our party's primary elections are controlled by the Republican Party."

Typical Childlike Dim

Posted by: screwjob16 | June 10, 2010 7:58 PM | Report abuse

even if he was a plant...
it's not illegal...
nothing that happened was illegal...
he won, dems, deal with it...

Posted by: DwightCollins | June 10, 2010 7:38 PM | Report abuse

I always wondered how Clyburn could get on a ballot and get elected to Congress. Now we know. Democrats in SC will vote for any Tom, Dick, or Harry. It appears that nobody vetted Clyburn either. Maybe Obama should have just offered Mr Green a job to get out of the race. Or better yet, just let Mr Greene take over the rest of Obama's term. He seems alot more on the ball !!

Posted by: khscottfighton | June 10, 2010 7:36 PM | Report abuse

South Carolina is a political freak show. There's some serious inbreeding going on down there.

Posted by: brewstercounty | June 10, 2010 7:16 PM | Report abuse

This Alvin Greene guy was planted there by Demint camp.
We can simply verify this by having the Attorney General subpoena Greens bank records and those of
the Demint campaign. If they do, I can guarantee you that you will either see strange payments to Green's bank account and/or no record of the $10,400 cash that he used to pay for the primary nomination.

I mean think about it, which one do you think is more logical:

1- A guy who did NOT spend $1 Advertising his cam aping, a guy that did not even have a Web site set aside having spend $50,000+ at least for a typical Web site of some one running for the Senate, A guy who did NOT even hold ONE campaign rally or a campaign speech, Winning the Democratic nomination?

or

2- Demint camp knowing that an intelligent and articulate person like Vick Rawl would show what a lunatic Demint is and thus crush him in the next election having engaged in shenanigans to fund and get this Green guy the most votes?

Which one sounds more logical to you?

This is a very good test of how corrupt South Carolina Government is?
That is IF the SC AG lets this stand and does not investigate it, we will know that the Wall Street gang that controls Demint has yet again pulled a fraud on SC residents to elect another agent of Wall Street gang, aka Demint, to carry their lunatic non-sense, specifically:
"Government is the problem not the solution..."
Which is a Con Job for:
"You the People cannot do anything, since this is supposed to be the "Government of the People by the People for the People"

But the problem is that the Attornery General of SC is Jim McMaster who is the ultimate buddy of Demint, which just goes to show you how corupt the Republican party in South Carolina is.

So join us in the effort to put and END the corupt Repubicans in general and lunatic Demint in partiular, here:
www.DefeatDemint.org

Posted by: ThinkDeep | June 10, 2010 6:31 PM | Report abuse

My first question would be about South Carolina's primary procedures... are Republicans or Independents able to vote in the Democratic Primary?

If so, perhaps there is something rotten here... but if not, it seems silly to blame Republicans that Democrat screwed up their own primary.

Posted by: Iconoblaster | June 10, 2010 5:46 PM | Report abuse

I guess if Greene wins he would ask for advance pay so he can get out of his mother's home. What a phony!

Posted by: truth1 | June 10, 2010 5:27 PM | Report abuse

Is it true that the Dem nominee, Vincent Sheheen, flooded the state with street money and sample ballots that had Sheheen aligned with Greene and several other pseudo candidates (no websites, no appearances), but who happened to be African American? If so, what a craven way to try to buy an election.

Posted by: haydnharbour | June 10, 2010 5:14 PM | Report abuse

@ ruby9 - sorry but Mao is the hero of members of Obama's cabinet.....or don't you pay attention?

As for "being forced to vote for him" - how exactly....was Greene's name the only one of the ballot?

Where is the personal responsibility of the voters in this? IF this man never campaigned either in person or by ad or interview, the why in the world were people voting for him? Politicians love it when the uninformed vote the way they want them to, but let the uninformed vote against them and they scream foul play......

Posted by: LMW6 | June 10, 2010 5:02 PM | Report abuse

Regardless of Greene supposedly being "a plant" this sure doesn't speak well of Vic Rawl or any other potential Democratic candidates for U. S. Senate from S.C..
Sorry Dems ... again & and again &again &.......

Posted by: pd2710 | June 10, 2010 5:00 PM | Report abuse


"We just elected some unknown felon because the Republican party selected a Democrat candidate for us, and then made us vote for him."

James Clyburn (D-Nitwit)

Posted by: screwjob16 | June 10, 2010 4:52 PM | Report abuse

Check the voting machines to see if they were rigged for election fraud! remember what a problem that was that handed the stolen elections to bush in 2000 and 2004? This is protecting Jim DeMint, one of the most extreme C St. Nazi Christians of "The Family," whose loyalty is to themselves as self-proclaimed 'elite,' not to the Constitution or their constituents. Their 'role models' for leadership are Jesus Christ, Hitler, Mao...

Posted by: ruby9 | June 10, 2010 4:43 PM | Report abuse

Basically, if this guy was a _white_ unemployed vet, no one would be trying to bump him off the ballot. Instead, we'd be celebrating a triumph of the little guy. Clyburn wants him off because he doesn't control him; how'd that "endorsed by black leaders" work in Arkansas the other day?

Posted by: gbooksdc

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You're probably right that Clyburn wants him off because he doesn't control him, but the bigger issue is that Greene seems to be totally unprepared for the job and that he could prove a huge embarrassment to the party. That he is black or white has nothing to do with it. Were this a _white_ unemployed vet who comes off a little bit nutty in the same way that Greene does, either party would be scrambling to bump him, too. Parties want strong tickets, and this just makes them look bad.

The only way that Greene helps Democrats is if he becomes a quirky celebrity of sorts between now and November. If he seems just crazy enough, but not scary crazy, so that people get a laugh and rally behind him, Greene might actually draw in some voters.

Whether Democrats actually want him in the Senate or not is another matter.

Posted by: blert | June 10, 2010 4:14 PM | Report abuse

If this guy were a plant, he has been on the ballot for weeks or perhaps even months. (Anybody know when South Carolina's filing deadline was?) Didn't any Democratic Party leader in South Carolina think to interview Greene? Didn't any reporter interview him? Was there no primary debate between the candidates?

I mean, if there are only two people on the ballot, you'd think that someone in the state would check out a little something about who those two people are. I'm sure that newspapers offered endorsements in the South Carolina primary, so did they not even bother to research the candidates at all?

Putting a plant into a race would not be hard. Keeping under wraps for weeks or even months the fact that he's a rambling unemployed vet with a possibly questionable service record who has no real vision or plan for the Senate job...that sounds very hard.

Democrats and the press alike dropped the ball in South Carolina for not figuring out who Greene is. Plant or not, Green should have been interviewed by someone at some point, and bells should have gone off. That the party is now stuck with him on the ballot is their own fault. Maybe they were too busy fantasizing about the sex lives or possible sex lives of Mark Sanford and Nikki Haley to pay any attention to anything else. Still, a lot of people dropped the ball. Were I a newspaper editor, I'd be firing my person in charge of covering politics. Were I the state party chair, I'd be firing whoever oversees candidates on the party's ticket.

But who knows? Maybe Greene will pull off another upset win?

Posted by: blert | June 10, 2010 4:07 PM | Report abuse

There is no way that Republicans would commit fraud to get this guy on the ballot. That could not happen. The same folks who started the rumor about McCain's illegitimate black children would not use this man in that way. How could they have been involved any way they were all to busy having sex with the female candidate for governor. You would have to believe that these people are a bunch of low life, immoral, power hungry criminals to accept such a premise.

Posted by: vwallen@bellatlantic.net | June 10, 2010 3:55 PM | Report abuse

However he got there, 100,000 Democrats, 59 percent, voted for him. Those voters know more than Clyburn and the press. Greene's the man because the voters have spoken.

Posted by: llrllr | June 10, 2010 3:38 PM | Report abuse

@access...I agree with your comments, but please refrain from calling republicans DONKEYS...that's the symbol of the Democratic Party. Next time call them FAT ELEPHANTS!

Posted by: dc1020008 | June 10, 2010 3:14 PM | Report abuse

"Isn't this the pot calling the kettle black?"

No, it is the black calling the kettle a potted plant.

I've never seen why taxpayers should foot the bill so political parties can decide who they want to run in an election. If the SC Democratic party doesn't like their candidate, throw him out.

Posted by: kitchendragon50 | June 10, 2010 2:58 PM | Report abuse

DUMB and DUMBER!

It is very funny to us!

Posted by: ProudConservative1 | June 10, 2010 2:51 PM | Report abuse

DUMB and DUMBER!

It is very funny to us!

Posted by: ProudConservative1 | June 10, 2010 2:50 PM | Report abuse

It would be funny if he won and became a U.S. Senator. Jim DeMint would have not only lost to a Black guy in racist SC, he would lose to a LOSER planted by his own people. On top of that, he would actually represent a typical South Carolinian. THAT would be Karma!!

Posted by: PepperDr | June 10, 2010 2:26 PM | Report abuse

The "voters messed up" explanation doesn't ring true to me. Aren't primary voters generally better informed than general-election voters? Primary vote turnout is usually really low because folks who don't know the candidates don't bother to show up. I know the whole state was contentious, so I guess people could have come to vote on one race only, without knowing about the candidates in the other races, but you're still looking at a better-informed voter pool than usual.

Posted by: glib1 | June 10, 2010 2:24 PM | Report abuse

Love it!!! This is what you get Clyburn for leading the charge in accusing the Clintons of being racist and crying that they were beating up on Barack Obama during the 2008 primaries. Nothing like a little karma!

Posted by: muldar | June 10, 2010 2:19 PM | Report abuse

Hey, I just read it right here on "the web": Bush planted him!

Pass it on.

Posted by: bmschumacher | June 10, 2010 2:19 PM | Report abuse

Hey, I just read it right here on "the web": Bush planted him!

Pass it on.

Posted by: bmschumacher | June 10, 2010 2:18 PM | Report abuse

Why would anyone plant this guy? Democrats have a damaged brand, it is not needed. This story is a plant to point away from SC Democrats incompetence. The WaPo and other liberal media need to point away from the current leaders they helped push over the finish line in 2006 and 2008.

Posted by: thelaw1 | June 10, 2010 2:15 PM | Report abuse

Jim Clyburn, this is in YOUR district. There is NO excuse for you and state Senator and Manning resident John Land, not ever WONDERING who in the world this guy was!!!
There is NO excuse for Carol Fowler taking the filing fee money and running with it rather than trying to figure this out.
Ya'll, all 3 of ya, deserve to look like the idiots you have shown yourselves to be.

ESPECIALLY, did't the Republicans run a libertarian pretending to be a democrat against you last time around!!!

Posted by: edismae | June 10, 2010 2:13 PM | Report abuse


So the entire Democrat party including Clyburn never heard of their newly-elected candidate for Senate, but some shady GOP scoundrel a) gave Greene $10K in seed money; b) collected enough signatures to get Greene's name on the ballot; and, c) got 100,000 South Carolina voters to vote for Alvin Greene?

Even if every one of Clyburn's insane far-fetched delusions were true it would all be completely legal and above board. It would also demonstrate that the SC Democrat party including Clyburn are a bunch of incompetent stumblebums.

By the way Dims, is no way to force Alvin Greene off the ballot. He is duly elected. And now Greene is being watched by a hawk so crooked Dims cannot even attempt to buy him off to get him to drop his candidacy. Now THAT would be a crime.

Posted by: screwjob16 | June 10, 2010 1:48 PM | Report abuse

I'm a conservative, and this clearly flies in the face of logic. This is a scheme; no doubt about that.

Posted by: forgetthis | June 10, 2010 1:41 PM | Report abuse

Can we just lace the South Carolina water supply with contraceptives?

Posted by: Garak | June 10, 2010 1:40 PM | Report abuse

"Vic Rawl our hand-picked establishment Democrat lost the election by a landslide because The Voters Are Stupid."

-- James Clyburn

Posted by: screwjob16 | June 10, 2010 1:34 PM | Report abuse

Making believe he was given the money to run by someone who hates Clyburn....a big so what? It's better than the lobbyists paying Clyburne and expecting favors in return.If Clyburne were a republican, his attack would no doubt be called racist.

Posted by: cfitzpatrick2 | June 10, 2010 1:34 PM | Report abuse

You GOP idiots DONKEYS and what ever you call yourself. This Fool was out of work living with his Mother. No Black Man who isn't working,living at home is going to spend 10 grand on an election. I understand responding to some things but you IDIOTS responding that he did this without help are just plan DONKEYS. If you are going to express your point lets express something worth it. IDIOTS IDIOTS.

Posted by: access11 | June 10, 2010 1:34 PM | Report abuse

I suggest Eddie Murphy to play the part of Mr. Greene in the movie version. Sort of a "Distinguished Gentleman Part 2".

Posted by: WarrentonMD | June 10, 2010 1:33 PM | Report abuse

I read his interview on The Root. Leave him on the ballot. His priorities are in order. He likes Internet porn? So do hundreds of thousands, if not millions. There's a Supreme Court justice who likes porn, as we found out. Do Republicans REALLY want to run a campaign based on morality when their Gubernatorial nominee is accused of sleeping with several men not her husband?

Basically, if this guy was a _white_ unemployed vet, no one would be trying to bump him off the ballot. Instead, we'd be celebrating a triumph of the little guy. Clyburn wants him off because he doesn't control him; how'd that "endorsed by black leaders" work in Arkansas the other day?

Posted by: gbooksdc | June 10, 2010 1:31 PM | Report abuse

Sounds to me like Mr James Clyburn is a wee bit jealous of Mr Alvin Greene.

See, Clyburn has been filling all the squares on his political offices checklist hopeing to work his way up to being the first black senator from SC since the Restoration; when this virtual nobody vet has beat him (halfway) to the punch.

So Mr Clyburn, are you going to support the Democrats trying to push Green out in favor of a Republican, and potentially lose your democratic constituent's votes; or worse, support DeMint against a fellow black and risk being labeled an Uncle Tom?

Posted by: mhoust | June 10, 2010 1:31 PM | Report abuse

It looks blatantly suspicious at the very least. If you're not at least curious into investigating whether or not there is dishonesty involved then you can't really call yourself 'objective.' You just want your side to win. This is a small $10k investigation, it is not analogous to investigating Obama's multimillion dollar campaign.

Posted by: ksanders32 | June 10, 2010 1:25 PM | Report abuse

I assume he was a plant. So what? He won. If the "legitimate" candidate can't beat this guy, he doesn't deserve the nomination.

Frankly, I hope he wins the general election. How much worse can he be than what's already in DC?

Posted by: gbooksdc | June 10, 2010 1:11 PM | Report abuse

Jsmith wrote:

"Alvin Greene was elected by the Democrat voters of South Carolina by a landslide 59 percent of the vote. "

-- Actually, he was elected in large part by crossover REPUBLICAN voters - SC has an open primary, Screwjob16.

Count the Dem/Rep votes in other statewide races, compare that to this one, and then tell us who is the dimwit.

Your post shows you are know nothing about this election. There were between 3-4 Republican candidates for Gov., Lt. Gov. Sec. of Agriculture and Supt. of Ed. Why waste a crossover vote on a non-entity who will be routed in the general and risk having your candidate lose? The 100K votes came from uninformed voters who chose the candidate.

Posted by: scobserver | June 10, 2010 12:59 PM | Report abuse

"Alvin Greene was elected by the Democrat voters of South Carolina by a landslide 59 percent of the vote. "

-- Actually, he was elected in large part by crossover REPUBLICAN voters - SC has an open primary, Screwjob16.

Count the Dem/Rep votes in other statewide races, compare that to this one, and then tell us who is the dimwit.

Posted by: jsmith021961 | June 10, 2010 12:43 PM | Report abuse


Maybe we ought to take a close look at where Dim hack James Clyburn the kibitzer got HIS money from? Then we can look at where heavily backed establishment Dim loser Vic Rawl got his money from? Hmm? How much did Rawl spend on his campaign and who were his donors?

All that dirty money did not keep the people's choice Alvin Greene from being elected.

Keep your nose out of this Clyburn the people have spoken.

Posted by: screwjob16 | June 10, 2010 12:40 PM | Report abuse

Psst, Clyburn.....George Bush probably planted him!

Posted by: scobserver | June 10, 2010 12:34 PM | Report abuse

Is there anything that happens in the universe that the Dems cannot blame on the Republicans? Their candidate, a former...., ran a poor campaign and got beat by a nobody, but it is the Republican's fault?

Posted by: momo5 | June 10, 2010 12:31 PM | Report abuse

He's an unemployed veteran who had $10,400 to register. Something seems a little strange especially since no one has heard or seen him since he filed his papers. Follow the money - if it's his then he is a legitimate candiate if not...

Posted by: rlj1 | June 10, 2010 12:28 PM | Report abuse


Hello Dims,

Heavily funded establishment Democrat Vic Rawl was on the ballot too, and lost: 41% of the vote for Rawl, 59% for Greene.

When Barry the incompetent boob Obama ran for president in the 2008 Democrat primary, Barry got 55% of the vote. Greene did better in his contest than Barry the inept bungler did in his.

In a free, fair and open election Alvin Greene was elected your senate candidate from South Carolina. The good people of South Carolina elected Alvin Greene by a landslide.

Posted by: screwjob16 | June 10, 2010 12:16 PM | Report abuse

jace, your post sounds suspiciously like screwjob's. Interesting, but not surprising.

Clyburn would relish the idea of you wasting money trying to defeat him.

Posted by: koolkat_1960 | June 10, 2010 12:15 PM | Report abuse

Sorry screw, but this clown will be off the ballot before you can finish reading My Pet Goat.

Posted by: koolkat_1960 | June 10, 2010 12:10 PM | Report abuse

Perhaps we should open the books on just who gave Obama his campaign funds each and every penny of it.

Dem's you voted your ticket now live with it. I would also love to see each and every donor to Mr. Clyburn's campaigns past and present.

I am from South Carolina and will be working to send him packing on this next election cycle.

See you at the voting booth in November.

Posted by: jace1 | June 10, 2010 12:10 PM | Report abuse

For anyone who thinks this loser somehow had $10,400 available to blow on a quixotic Senate race, I have a nice bridge in Brooklyn to show you. It's really cheap.

Posted by: koolkat_1960 | June 10, 2010 12:08 PM | Report abuse

i eagerly await MSNBC and Washington Post doing analysis pieces about the conspiracy minded fringe nature of democratic congressional leadership. nancy pelosi wants to pass bills "so we can find out what is in them", harry reid told us in 2006 that the war in iraq was "lost", called the 60% of americans who want to repeal the health care bill "nazis", chris van hollen compared arizona's wildly popularly and common sensical illegal immigration law to gestapo tactics. republicans may be a little staid and too white for some people but you have to look to conservative talk show hosts (limbuagh and beck) to find similar statements. republican congressional leaders are firmly rooted in reality.

Posted by: dummypants | June 10, 2010 11:59 AM | Report abuse

He can't answer the money question! check out this video from 4:37 on! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zUFN7ZkjgkA

Posted by: harlanh001 | June 10, 2010 11:58 AM | Report abuse

He can't answer the money question! check out this video from 4:37 on! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zUFN7ZkjgkA

Posted by: harlanh001 | June 10, 2010 11:57 AM | Report abuse


Attention Dims and other nitwits:

Alvin Greene ran on the South Carolina Democrat primary election ballot as a candidate for senate.
Alvin Greene was elected by the Democrat voters of South Carolina by a landslide 59 percent of the vote.

Alvin Greene is the people's choice in the the South Carolina Democrat primary election, and is your candidate on the November ballot. Greene is your man, he is yours.

See you at the polls, Dims.


Posted by: screwjob16 | June 10, 2010 11:46 AM | Report abuse

Isn't this the pot calling the kettle black?

Posted by: calvin3 | June 10, 2010 11:32 AM | Report abuse

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