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Jon Kyl walks back White House border story

UPDATE 6/28: Kyl is standing by his account of the immigration encounter, saying he has been misinterpreted all along. "People misinterpreted what I meant by it, but what I said was accurate," Kyl told Fox News. "People read into what I said, something that I didn't say ... I regret that it was misinterpreted."

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Earlier this week, Sen. Jon Kyl (R-Ariz.) caused a stir when he was quoted saying that President Obama personally told him the administration will not support stricter border enforcement until Republicans back broad immigration reform. The White House denied the claim. Now Kyl is saying that's not what he meant.

Kyl was quoted: "The president said the problem is if we secure the border, then you all won't have any reason to support comprehensive immigration reform. In other words, they're holding it hostage."

In an interview with National Review, Kyl explained:

Kyl tells us that the comments were "taken a bit out of context," and that the "they" he was referring to was the Left, "the president's base," and not the administration. "I did not try to start a fight. This meeting happened a month ago and we were talking in the context of his political problems. He was talking about how they think that if we secure the border, you guys [Republicans] won't have the incentive to work on comprehensive immigration reform."

At the time, a spokesman for Kyl forcefully defended the story.

"There were two people in that meeting, and [White House spokesperson] Dan Pfieffer was not one of them," Patmintra said. "Senator Kyl stands by his remarks, and the White House spokesman's pushback that you must have comprehensive immigration reform to secure the border only confirms Senator Kyl's account."

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Kyl shouldn't have retracted. Only in years to come will we learn that the lives of his family were threatened by this Marxist.

Speaking of the Marxist -

Then-senator Obama in a 2004 Chicago Public Radio interview regarding the trade-off of immigration reform for amnesty.
“OBAMA: We have a system that's, that's unfair to a lot of people.

What I've suggested is that we have to concentrate on how do we secure our borders, how do we track individuals who are coming into this country who may be engaged in terrorist activity. Uh, how do we then provide potential pathways for citizenship to those illegal immigrants who have shown themselves to be good citizens and have shown themselves to be committed to this country?

And that's not, that's going to be a difficult conversation to have, and it's going to have to be bipartisan for it to be effective. The trade off is going to have to be improved security of our borders, at the same time allowing those who are already here to reach out for that American dream.”

chicago public radio

Next question.

Posted by: joesmithdefend | June 27, 2010 11:36 PM | Report abuse

From this, it appears that he was telling the truth at first and has knuckled under.

Listen to Obama here, for further corroboration:
http://investigatingobama.blogspot.com/2010/06/border-security-for-amnesty-prequel.html

Your spine, Sen. Kyl?

Posted by: ArlenWilliams | June 27, 2010 3:32 AM | Report abuse

From this, it appears that he was telling the truth at first and has knuckled under.

Posted by: ArlenWilliams | June 27, 2010 3:31 AM | Report abuse

Oh come on WAPO and Obamabot Liberals as we
all as to who the real liar is here and GOP
Congressman Joe Wilson told us that his name is Barack Hussein Obama when the great
Republican Congressman Joe Wilson said,
"Obama You Lie!" ..So how come WAPO is not
reporting how Comrade Barack Obama and his
Worthless Sec of Homeland Security Janet
Napolitano just wasted over $50 Million Dollars worth of our US Taxpayer's Money to
put up signs all over Arizona warning people that the area is not safe,and tried
to call it "Improvements To Homeland Security",instead of sending our Arizona Gov Jan Brewer the National Guard Troops and More US Border Patrol Agents that she has asked Barack Hussein Obama for over six times already now WAPO? ..Or,how about
Comrade Obama and Nutcase Napolitano and that sawed off runt Sec of Defense Joke Robert Gates sending Just One Drone to Texas and calling that "Improved Border
Security: as well here WAPO?...Obama lies!
And WAPO Lies As Well! Impeach Obama and
Fire Janet Napolitano,Eric Holder and Robert Gates! Build The Dang Fence! Arrest
and Deport every Illegal Alien Criminal in
the USA and Jail Every Illegal Alien Cheap
Labor Greedy Employer! Vote every current
Incumbent Democrat and Republican and RINO
Amnesty John McCain out in 2010 and 2012!
Elect Gov Jan Brewer President in 2012!

A Fed Up Arizona Voter In Phoenix!

Posted by: carleen09 | June 26, 2010 6:23 PM | Report abuse

The name Kyl doesn't look American to me. Papers please?

Posted by: gwcox2 | June 26, 2010 5:44 PM | Report abuse

That's it...keep up the rhetoric, my Republican friends. You're only alienating the fastest growing electorate in the country. I welcome the idea of the GOP redefining themselves as a fifth column faction of right wing yahoos. The GOP will ultimately rue the day it decided to abandon its reasonably respectful position of restraint and conservatism and instead embrace the weirdo bucktoothed politics of far right ding dongs. Have at it!

Posted by: theodorebrown | June 26, 2010 10:03 AM | Report abuse

Wasn't it the conservative
St. Reagan that gave the illegals amnesty then did nothing about immigration. the republicans whine and cry about anything the democrats propose while proposing nothing but empty air themselves. their main goal it seems is for obama to fail at all costs

Posted by: blinwilly | June 26, 2010 8:41 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: Isserley | June 26, 2010 2:49 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: Isserley | June 26, 2010 2:48 AM | Report abuse

I noticed there was no link from yet another hack Washington Post Obama apologist so I went to National Review and there isn't any interview with Kyl. Was this a stealth interveiw that only the Washington Post knows about?

Posted by: robtr | June 26, 2010 2:09 AM | Report abuse

Where is the link to the National Review article you refer to? If there is no link or footnotes etc, to prove what you say then it is heresay or opine. Journalisism is not what it used to be. Honorable.

Posted by: flyvie | June 26, 2010 1:26 AM | Report abuse

Notice how everyone around Obama is the liar?

He hasn't even coughed up the ethics violation Hidden history and we are supposed to find him credible?

No thanks.
6000 troops tomarrow morning on duty by 7:00 am sharp on the Arizona border is the right thing to do to have any credibility.

Posted by: dottydo | June 25, 2010 10:43 PM | Report abuse

what is sad is that georges2 actually may get an A. However, I bet 10 to 1 is that he will get D and blame it on his professor being a "liberal." Grow up georgie, you are making a fool of yourself.

Posted by: hansenthered | June 25, 2010 10:29 PM | Report abuse

I blame this on Obama" - Motorfriend

_______________________________________

Of course you do. That's the habit of the simple-minded and of those whose IQ is smaller than their shoe size.

The bulk of your post is arrant nonsense. And even it were true (which it is not), would have have had its causes stemming from the eight-year incompetence of the Bush regime.

Posted by: WhateverHeSaid | June 25, 2010 9:41 PM | Report abuse

"I blame this on Obama" - Motorfriend

_______________________________________

Of course you do. That's the habit of the simple-minded and of those whose IQ is smaller than their shoe size.

The bulk of your post is arrant nonsense. And even it were true (which it is not), would have have had its causes stemming the eight-year incompetence of the Bush regime.

Posted by: WhateverHeSaid | June 25, 2010 9:39 PM | Report abuse

A friend of a friend of mine who knows someone who lives in Arizona said that one of the reasons for the precipitous fall in home values there is because of the flood of illegal Mexicans who have completely taken over the state.

The problem has become so great that many Whites are simply walking away from their mortgages and letting the banks take over the houses. According to one account, a White man with a professional career was told that his wife and children would be kidnapped and taken to Mexico as sex slaves unless he sold his house for a third of its value.

This guy says that if you don't speak Spanish it is virtually impossible to do business in the state. That's why the largest private employer in the state is Wal-Mart. All other corporations have pulled up stakes.

And they say that Gov. Jan Brewer is understating the case when she calls Arizona a "crime-ridden hellhole." In fact, the murder rate in the state is the highest in the nation and rises sharply the closer you get to the border.

Maricopa County Sheriff Joe Arpaio has virtually abandoned any effort to enforce any laws except the immigration laws in the hopes of stemming the Mexican crime wave. But he has hardly dented the problem.

Meanwhile the federal government has done nothing to deal with the flood of Mexicans. I've heard that armed bands of "Coyotes" in full military dress are escorting illegals by the thousands at a time in air conditioned tour buses. Once when a Border Patrol agent tried to question people on the bus, he was tied up, tortured and robbed. Unless he went to work for the coyotes, he was told, he and his family would be sold as sex slaves.

The situation has gotten so bad that the U.S. State Department has considered issuing travel advisories for Arizona, the first time such a step would be taken for a U.S. state.

Even with the dire warnings, state officials are soft-peddling the real situation. If you are white, entering Arizona for any reason means you have a death wish.

I blame this on Obama.

Posted by: motorfriend | June 25, 2010 9:29 PM | Report abuse

HA, georges2! It was good fun and I hope you do get an A.

Posted by: suenaustin | June 25, 2010 9:20 PM | Report abuse

Kyl was mischaracterized. Of course it was Kyl who did the characterization, so Kyl was mischaracterized by Kyl and should apologize to Kyl.

Who should accept the apology because it kwould be the bipartisan thing to do for Kyl to forgive Kyl and go back to working with Kyl.

Unless Kyl secretly holds a grudge.

Posted by: ceflynline | June 25, 2010 9:19 PM | Report abuse

Thanks, everyone! All of us Sigma Chi's are rolling on the floor from laughing so much! It's called DISINFORMATION, people, and I'm going going to make an A on this paper for my political science class. Wow! I cannot believe my good fortune. And you people in Texas, seriously! What do YOU have in the water down there? When you see something posted on these sites, use your brains! Don't waste your time trying to respond to over the top comments. Amazing! So long! Have a good evening!

Posted by: georges2 | June 25, 2010 9:13 PM | Report abuse

Joe Smith: Who's paying? Please let me know so I can cash in; I've been trashing you bozos for free for some time now!

Posted by: thrh | June 25, 2010 8:41 PM | Report abuse

Rachael Weiner claims that Jon Kyl walks back White House border story in an interview with National Review?

Rachael Weiner should be fired for reporting a bogus story. First Rachael doesn't say who at National Review did the "interview" and when. Secondly, there is no mention of an "interview" on National Review's website including its archives.

Lastly, Fox news and even Dennis Bryne at chicago.com wrote on 6/21/2010 that "The White House vehemently denied the assertion, adding that Klye 'knows' that Obama didn't say it. Kyle's office reaffirmed the accuracy of the quote."

Posted by: Chuck8764 | June 25, 2010 8:39 PM | Report abuse

"There were two people in that meeting, and [White House spokesperson] Dan Pfieffer was not one of them," Patmintra said.

And, apparently, neither was Pamintra.

Posted by: thrh | June 25, 2010 8:38 PM | Report abuse

Kyl is not known for his "truthiness" in Arizona. If you want to rely on his word you always need a back-up plan. It was and remains a shock that Kyl is number 2 in the Republican leadership in the Senate. The behind closed door joke was it must have been that Bozo the clown was busy. Kyl is not bright which is why he has a hard time holding on to the truth.

Posted by: merrylees | June 25, 2010 8:05 PM | Report abuse

Progressives simply spew anti-Republican drivel on this site - because they are paid to do so.

Posted by: joesmithdefend
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Damn! Where do I sign up? I could use the cash! Hilarious how on a post where KYL ADMITS HIS STAFF LIED and admits the President was telling the truth that somehow the right wingnuts make it about the President lying. Wow ... through the looking glass!

Posted by: Omyobama | June 25, 2010 7:55 PM | Report abuse

Joe Smith

But yet here you are posting? So if you don't beleive a single word posted on WaPo do you not beleive your own post? I can't beleive them.
It's really f n stupid.

Maybe you should go find a conservative lying new source more to your liking.

Posted by: larsonlk | June 25, 2010 7:50 PM | Report abuse

I don't believe a single word posted on the WaPo - or any liberal, lying news source.

Therefore - if Kyl stated that Obama was holding our country hostage - and he did - then that is what happened.

Oh wait...I can look around and SEE Obama doing exactly that...and can believe my own eyes as well.

Posted by: joesmithdefend | June 25, 2010 7:36 PM | Report abuse

Joesmithdefend

Nice way to make conservatives look foolish. BTW it's a dick, you should be able to recongize it we had one as VP for 8 years.

Posted by: larsonlk | June 25, 2010 7:13 PM | Report abuse

One simple question: if the GOP wants immigration reform so badly, why did they do nothing when they controlled the House, the Senate AND the White House? Hmmm. Perhaps because they only SAY they want immigration reform? Perhaps their backers want things to stay as-is so they can hire all those illegals for sub-minimum wage? Hmm.

Posted by: steveboyington | June 25, 2010 7:12 PM | Report abuse

Sen. Kyl was not under oath. Therefore, it cannot be a lie or misrepresentation. It may not have even happened!

Posted by: kishorgala | June 25, 2010 7:09 PM | Report abuse

georges2, the point is that Kyl didnt' tell the truth and walked it back. That's sort of like, you know, proof, that he lied. He tried to make a point that cast the President in a very bad light, but it turned out to NOT BE TRUE. Your attempt to create a big, fat conspiracy with evil-doers in the White House is created completely out of whole cloth. It makes some of us here smile when you froth and fulminate and cast about for unknowable truths, dark secrets, and inconvenient facts, so you can return to Glen Beck now. I'll go get some popcorn.

Posted by: barbarian_horde | June 25, 2010 7:06 PM | Report abuse

The GOPers are masters at the "Whatever sticks is a Gain" game.

Posted by: kishorgala | June 25, 2010 7:03 PM | Report abuse

rharring | June 25, 2010 6:55 PM

Jeez, dude! I was making fun of georges2' paranoia about 3 liberals on this thread (one of those included me)!! I voted for Bill White in the primary and will vote for him in November. GOOD GRIEF.

Posted by: suenaustin | June 25, 2010 6:59 PM | Report abuse

End justifies the Means.

There are those who think before doing something, and there are those who do things first and then think what they did.

You can draw a target and shoot at it (and miss it), or you can shoot at the wall first then draw a circle around the bullet. Perfect bull's eye every time!

Isn't retrospect great?

Posted by: kishorgala | June 25, 2010 6:58 PM | Report abuse

joesmith,

Spoken like a true inbred conservative. So since you didnt come back with any facts i guess you deep down know i am right, otherwise you may have said something of substance instead of some sixth grader rant. But then again if you ever had a thought im sure it would make your head hurt.

Sueinaustin,

You must be new to our great state. Otherwise you wouldnt be supporting Governor Good Hair, the same person who took our debt from 9 billion to 21 billion, uses our tax dollars to build highways, then makes them toll roads, double billing us, then outsources the toll road to a foreign country. Oh and im sure you were completely on board when the religious right tried to re-write our text books to fit their agenda? You should move from Austin because there are alot of liberals there. Are you related to that loon that crashed his plane into the IRS building in Austin?

Posted by: rharring | June 25, 2010 6:55 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: sybilll | June 25, 2010 6:52 PM | Report abuse

Is there something in the water that the GOP drinks that causes them to ask insane like this? In the last twenty years or so, the GOP has become a truly radical organization, and too closely aligned with organized propaganda for me to be at all comfortable with them!

Posted by: squirebass | June 25, 2010 6:51 PM | Report abuse

georges2 -- you see what happens when you are off traveling to all those places? You totally missed Texas being invaded by liberal ZOMBIES. Our leader is Shaun. Shaun of the Dead.

Posted by: suenaustin | June 25, 2010 6:48 PM | Report abuse

rharring - you stupid, liberal Progressives need to suck Obama's you-know-what...then you'll all be happy.

Posted by: joesmithdefend | June 25, 2010 6:41 PM | Report abuse

Oh my God! Some delusional right winger claims to have traveled around the world in a week and met "friends" in Georgia, (Duh, "the country, not the state") and Poland who are said to be "deeply disappointed" with Obama. The right wing has spoken. Run for the hills. All is lost.

Posted by: vztownes | June 25, 2010 6:39 PM | Report abuse

georges2,

Problem for you is the facts dont jive with your fiction. When Obama took over the economy was in the tank and losing over 200,000 jobs a month, the past few months there have been GAINS. Our car manufactures were in dire need, he took control and now they are turning a profit not to mention saved 250,000 jobs. And the betrayal your friend feels in especially Georgia which was a very Bush friendly country, then he like you dont pay attention because 60% of this country was ASHAMED at how Bush governed.

Posted by: rharring | June 25, 2010 6:29 PM | Report abuse

sueinaustin, mattintex, catmomtx, now talk about scary. I guess with all that 100+ heat down there, your brains are starting to bubble. I know how it is down there (I've spent time in Lubbock, Amarillo, and San Antonio!) and I know how that heat can affect your thinking. You'd never survive in Saudi Arabia. My comments really seem to be bringing out the "best" in you. I understand. I really do. What I'm saying is quite unsettling - and I'm sure you can imagine how Kyl feels being threatened the way he was. 'alayka an tuSaddiq! yajib an adhhab! yajib an adhhab al-aan! ma9a s-salaama! ma9a s-salaama!

Posted by: georges2 | June 25, 2010 6:29 PM | Report abuse

Who in his or her right mind can DENY that this sham and fraud of a president DOES NOT support any kind of border enforcement?

OBAMA LIES...HIS ADMINISTRATION IS A REGIME OF LIARS...and everyone knows it.

Progressives simply spew anti-Republican drivel on this site - because they are paid to do so.

Posted by: joesmithdefend | June 25, 2010 6:29 PM | Report abuse

@catmomtx: I wouldn't really laugh -- I think *somebody* is very close to slipping over the edge.

Posted by: suenaustin | June 25, 2010 6:19 PM | Report abuse

Observer001, I actually live in the real world. It's you and the other liberal commenters on this site who are living in a world where they think Obama has their best interests at heart. Now, talk about scary! Has he said anything during the time he's been in office that is true? Think now, Observer001. Think long and hard. Use your brain, Observer001. Exercise it! You should get out of this country for a while, Observer001. Your eyes will be opened. You will no longer want to watch MSNBE or CNN, Observer001. They are only telling you what Obama wants you to hear. When I was in Jiddah last week, I visited with a friend of mine from Georgia (the country, not the state, Observer001; I feel the need to explain that to you.) who expressed deep disappointment at American betrayal since Obama has been in office. My Polish friends in Warsaw feel the same way. Laugh if you must, Observer001, but I'm quite sure I'll have the last laugh.

Posted by: georges2 | June 25, 2010 6:18 PM | Report abuse

"I just got back from the Middle-East."

Suuuuuuuuuure you did.

Posted by: mattintx | June 25, 2010 6:17 PM | Report abuse

catmomtx, I really feel sorry for you that you don't understand how close to disaster this country is. Thank you for you comment, though, because this is exactly what one expects from liberals, and I appreciate your supporting my argument. You're sitting there in Texas (It's really hot there, isn't it? Make sure you automobile has enough coolant in it when you leave town.), thinking you are so much more aware of everything that's happening in this country than the average person, and you're not. You're living in your fantasy world. I just got back from the Middle-East. My friends in Saudi Arabia are just amazed at what's happening in this country. They offered to help with the oil spill but were turned down. They know Obama has an agenda. My Saudi friends laugh at how ignorant Americans are about what Obama is doing to this country. I'm sorry, catmontx, but I don't like that. I realize that you don't really understand it, but I do.

Posted by: georges2 | June 25, 2010 6:08 PM | Report abuse

goerges2, you live in a scary and depressing world that exists only in your (and Glen Beck's) mind. I feel for you man. Must be depressing as all get out.

Posted by: Observer001 | June 25, 2010 6:08 PM | Report abuse

You Lie!!!

Posted by: rlj1 | June 25, 2010 6:07 PM | Report abuse

This lie, then retract, happens so often in the GOP that is amazing that they can keep their stories straight.
They hope that if they let the lie run for a few days, the public might believe it. Then the retraction gets buried and the lie lives on.
Says something about the moral character of the party of the right (wing, that is).

Posted by: pjohn2 | June 25, 2010 6:04 PM | Report abuse

Oh, my gosh, it's amazing how clever liberals think they are - and how morally uncompromised. How do you live with yourselves? You must spend a fortune on mirrors because I'm sure you've placed them so you'll always see your head with that bright halo above it. Obama is a one-term president - and even that's too long. He and his administration are corrupt. They threatened to destroy Kyl if he didn't "walk back" his story. What's a person to do when you have White House goons lurking outside your home?

Posted by: georges2 | June 25, 2010 6:00 PM | Report abuse

Republicans lie. That's just their "thing".

Posted by: paul65 | June 25, 2010 6:00 PM | Report abuse

georges2, you really need to get a grip dude. You are rather pitiful. Hahahahaha!!!!!

Posted by: catmomtx | June 25, 2010 5:59 PM | Report abuse

I'm not quite sure how the commenters on this site can say that Republicans lie when this entire administration is built on lies: WE'VE CREATED JOBS! THE NEW HEALTHCARE PROGRAM WON'T RAISE THE COST OF HEALTHCARE! WE'RE DOING EVERYTHING WE CAN TO CONTROL THE BORDER! Do you want me to keep going? I'll run out of "characters" because I only have 2649 remaning.

Posted by: georges2 | June 25, 2010 5:55 PM | Report abuse

Republican liars are only topped by more republican liars!

Posted by: raca1234 | June 25, 2010 5:51 PM | Report abuse

This explanation will clearly not be as much fun for Fox News. I'm sure it will get absolutely zero play there. See Kyl wasn't lying, he was mischaracterized. This is something that seems to happen to Republicans a lot.

Posted by: clear_eyed_man | June 25, 2010 5:44 PM | Report abuse

Oh, no, it happened just the way Kyl said it did, but since then he's been contacted by members of the Obama administration who have told him they'll do everything in their power to destroy him. They'll do everything in their power to destroy the State of Arizona. That's the way this administration works. Oh, you'll never find the evidence. Blago is still looking for it. They're very good at hiding it. If you think for one minute this country has the freedoms you read about in books, you're sadly mistaken. There is a dark side - a very dark side. Why do you think Obama and the Russian president were all smiles yesterday. They think alike. Obama is heading us toward the United Soviet States of America: USSA. It's coming, folks. Get ready - or vote this man out of office NOW!

Posted by: georges2 | June 25, 2010 5:39 PM | Report abuse

No, maybe he should misapolgize.

Posted by: larsonlk | June 25, 2010 5:32 PM | Report abuse

What a surprise - accuse and lie then retract a few days later. Republicans are scum.

Posted by: craigbrewer | June 25, 2010 5:24 PM | Report abuse

What a surprise - accuse and lie then retract a few days later. Republicans are scum.

Posted by: craigbrewer | June 25, 2010 5:24 PM | Report abuse

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