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Looking ahead: Fiorina vs. Boxer

UPDATED 2:30 a.m., June 9

By Perry Bacon Jr.

ANAHEIM, Calif. -- U.S. Sen. Barbara Boxer (D-Calif.) and GOP candidate Carly Fiorina have already started sharply attacking each other and offering a preview of what could become one of the most compelling Senate races in the country this fall.

"In her 28 years as a career politician, Barbara Boxer is a bitter partisan who has said much but done little," Fiorina said in speech full of barbs at Boxer as she accepted the GOP nomination Tuesday night here. "She gets an A in politics, but she gets an F in achievement."

She cast Boxer as a politician "on the very fringe of American politics" who has a "destructive elitism."

Boxer, even before Fiorina officially won, said the ex-Hewlett-Packard CEO had a "terrible record."

"I don't know who my opponent is going to be, but if it is Carly Fiorina, this is the clearest choice in the nation, and I am very excited about it because she is so out of step with California voters," Boxer said at event on Saturday in Los Angeles, according to the Los Angeles Times. "She has a horrific record, she hardly ever voted, she laid off 30,000 workers, she shipped their jobs to China, to Europe, to India. People suffered, she got all these perks and so I really look forward to this race."

Here's a look at four of the more interesting contrasts between the two candidates:
 

Business vs. politics

Fiorina wasn't just a political novice before helping Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) on the campaign trail in 2008; she had even skipped voting many years, a fact her GOP opponents and Boxer have already seized on. And the center of her candidacy, her experience in business, is not a complete positive: she was pushed out in 2005 from the top job at Hewlett-Packard. Democrats are already circulating a piece written last year by the business website Portfolio that ranked Fiorina as one of the 20 worst CEO's ever.

Boxer, while not on such a negative list, has few major bills sporting her name despite more than 17 years in the office. Republicans plan to cast her not just as a longtime incumbent in a year where voters seem to want something new, but one who has simply not accomplished much.

Liberal vs. conservative

If she emerges from the GOP field, Fiorina will have wooed enough conservatives to defeat Chuck Devore, a Tea Party candidate backed by many conservatives around the country. In a primary that pushed the already conservative Fiorina to the right, she declared support for repealing the newly passed federal health care law and for increased off-shore oil drilling, as well allowing people on the "no-fly" list to purchase guns.

Boxer, meanwhile, is one of the more liberal members of the Senate and voted three years ago against a war funding bill that did not include a timeline for withdrawal from Iraq. She is one of the key backers of the climate change legislation in Congress and has voted for almost every part of President Obama's agenda in Washington.

Disciplined vs. candid

Fiorina, perhaps befitting her career as a corporate business executive, repeats the same lines over and over, as many effective politicians do.

Boxer, in contrast, gained attention last year for ordering Brig. Gen. Michael Walsh of the Army Corps of Engineers to call her "senator" instead of "ma'am" at a hearing.
"Do me a favor, can you say 'senator' instead of 'ma'am'?" Boxer told him at hearing. "It's just a thing. I worked so hard to get that title, so I'd appreciate it."

In 2007, in criticizing the Bush administration's policy on Iraq, she highlighted the fact that then-Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice didn't have children, drawing ire from conservatives.

"Who pays the price?" Boxer asked Rice at a hearing while discussing families who might send their children to war. "I'm not going to pay a personal price. My kids are too old and my grandchild is too young. You're not going to pay a particular price, as I understand it, with immediate family. So who pays the price? The American military and their families."

28 years vs. the Golden Parachute

With unemployment over 15 percent in some cities in California, Fiorina is determined to iinclude Boxer among those politicians not effective enough to help people out of work.

There are $21 million reasons Fiorina might not be the best candidate to sound such a populist theme. That whopping sum was the reported amount of her severance pay when she was pushed out at Hewlett-Packard.

By Perry Bacon Jr.  |  June 8, 2010; 8:22 PM ET
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Comments

Living in Oregon and working in technology, I am baffled that Fiorina won anything. Her management of HP was, at best, disastrous. It was so awful that when she was canned, HP's stock shot up because, literally, anyone would be a better CEO than her.

http://money.cnn.com/2005/02/09/technology/hp_fiorina/

Posted by: tweldy | June 10, 2010 2:51 PM | Report abuse

Paleolithic tired old white people like Barbara Boxer have to go.

What gives tired old white people like Boxer, Nancy Pelosi, and Jerry Brown the idea that they are somehow entitled to stay in office forever? I'm amazed that Democrats in California haven't nominated people of color for these offices. Is there a subconscious racism at play here?

Posted by: Azarkhan | June 10, 2010 1:13 PM | Report abuse

"Who else besides Repubs could afford to spend $70 million of their own money"

You might start with Dumbocrat Jim Corzine of New Jersey, who spent over 62 mil in his first run for the Senate. And compared to California, New Jersey is teeny tiney state. (in case you didn't know)

Posted by: Azarkhan | June 10, 2010 1:05 PM | Report abuse

I just saw on CNN someone saying in Calif. that Carly knows how to create jobs. But wait... she FIRED TENS OF THOUSANDS OF WORKERS at H-P. What's wrong with this picture?

It will be interesting to see if the media let her get away with this travishamockery. (Travesty of a sham of a mockery.)

Posted by: StikeDC1 | June 9, 2010 5:54 PM | Report abuse

I just saw on CNN someone saying in Calif. that Carly knows how to create jobs. But wait... she FIRED TENS OF THOUSANDS OF WORKERS at H-P. What's wrong with this picture?

It will be interesting to see if the media let her get away with this travishamockery. (Travesty of a sham of a mockery.)

Posted by: StikeDC1 | June 9, 2010 5:47 PM | Report abuse

Fiorina epitomizes the modern (US) corporate executive. She found cheap overseas labor to replace US workers she considered to be too expensive. Fiorina, on the other hand, was rewarded quite handsomely for her cost reduction efforts (in effect, getting a cut of eliminated salaries) because, as we all know, you can never pay a corporate executive too much. She's a member of the executive club: corporate officers that sit on other companies' boards of directors where they can always be counted on to jack up their counterparts' salaries; a never-ending upward spiral of pay increases. It's a self-serving racket run by self-important people with entitlement mentalities. This isn't the kind of person who will ever truly "represent the people" of California.

Posted by: KingMax | June 9, 2010 3:43 PM | Report abuse

It sure does appear all the out of touch with reality California Liberal Whackos
and Comrade Marxist Leader Liar in Chief
Socialist Democrats are foaming at the mouth and outraged that the GOP found two
highly intelligent successful female Governor and Senate Candidates in Whitman
and Florina to help rid California of all
the Democrat Nutcases like has beens Jerry
Brown and Failure Babbling Babs Boxer
and hopefully one day Mad Madame Botox Addict Speaker Nancy Pelosi as well!...

Congratulations to Carly Florina and Meg
Whitman and all the GOP Winners from this
Arizona Independent Voter in Phoenix AZ!

Posted by: Ralphinphnx | June 9, 2010 2:25 PM | Report abuse

Why don't you bankrupt moonbeams just do the rest of us a favor and secede. We promise not to fight to keep you.

Posted by: jhr1 | June 9, 2010 1:24 PM | Report abuse

Barbara Boxer is a Senator and Carly Fiorina is a wealty elitist Republican who was paid millions to leave HP. Hmmm. This is going to be like all the other Boxer campaigns where the Republican runs around pointing fingers, yelling liberal, screaming, whining and crying only to end up with 43% of the vote after spending millions. Hey Barbara, make her spend it all!!!!!!

By the way, Carly Fiorina and Orly Taitz are so ugly they would stop a freight train!

Posted by: juanchin | June 9, 2010 1:03 PM | Report abuse

Barbara Boxer is an accomplished Senator. Carly Fiorina is a former HP Executive who was paid to leave her job. And someone who Meg Whitman did not was on the general election ballot with her. Hmmm. Fiorina is just all all of Boxer's past opponents. They yell, scream, whine and point fingers and alway end up with 43% of the vote. By the way,
Carly Fiorina and Orly Taitz are so ugly they would stop a freight train!

Posted by: juanchin | June 9, 2010 12:59 PM | Report abuse

I can see it coming.

Carlee and Babs will slash and burn each other without presenting a single valid idea for job creation/retention in Greeceafornia.

Meanwhile, Whitman promises to slash 40,000 State employees if she becomes the new Governator.....and that's hard to argue against in this mega-bankrupted State.

CA is systemically busted. Mickey Mouse could run the State from Disneyland and do a better job than all these assorted failures....including Boxer, Feinstein and Pelosi. The State leads the Nation in dysfunctional leadership, and that's saying something given the competition.

Posted by: bandcyuk | June 9, 2010 12:21 PM | Report abuse

HP paid millions to get Carly to stop killing the company. How many millions would it cost Californians to get her to stop killing the State, and the Country?

If we are going to elect a private-sector amateur to the US Senate, could we PLEASE at least elect a successful one?

I neither love nor hate Barbara Boxer, but on a practical level, replacing her with a Junior (and amateur) Senator, who will only breathe when Mitch McConnell tells her to breathe, is not a formula for positive results.

California already loses 25% of our Federal Tax dollars to other states every year. Virtually all of the leadership of the GOP resides in those states noisily feeding off of California productivity. We need someone who will vote against them, not with them.

Remember, Republicans Hate California!

Posted by: OldUncleTom | June 9, 2010 12:14 PM | Report abuse

California is bankrupt, just like the comments of all these Boxer supporters. I guess now we now how you got your dumb a**ess into this mess.

Posted by: jhr1 | June 9, 2010 12:10 PM | Report abuse

A1965bigdog urges everyone to
VOTE REPUBLICAN!!!
----------------------
Are you worried about all the hassles of modern life, like freedom, health care, peace and education?

Vote Republican -- it's never too late to return to the Dark Ages.

Posted by: emm2 | June 9, 2010 12:02 PM | Report abuse

I'm just disappointed I will have to look at Cruella DeVil (Carly) on my TV 'till November. Thank God for Tivo!

Posted by: stswork | June 9, 2010 12:00 PM | Report abuse

Opine all you want, you non-Californians! This Californian is glad to have Barbara Boxer as my senator and will support her again.

Boxer was one of the few in the Senate who had the courage to vote against the Iraq war when all the mindless right-wing sheep accused war opponents of being unpatriotic. She deserves a lot of credit for that. She is also a strong advocate for the environment, which believe it or not, most Californians care about. As someone from a large corporate background, I have no doubt that Fiorina would side with big business over the environment and the general populace -- she'd be one of those politicians who would weaken corporate regulations and allow things like the Big Profiteer-disaster to happen. As far as allowing Iran to develop the bomb, what's with that? Because she wouldn't vote for a resolution to threaten military action? Didn't people learn anything from the Iraq debacle? W's invasion of Iraq is a big part of what allowed Iran to develop into a threat -- he removed the main force that was keeping Iran in check. Is another invasion really the answer, especially when Iraq had depleted our military power?

Also, since when did surviving a disease (cancer) make somebody qualified to hold office? That's almost as bad as those idiots who thought all W needed to be their President was to be a born-again Christian. Lots of ex-cons were born again in prison; are they qualified to be President? According to the National Cancer Institute, more than 2.5 million women are alive after a previous diagnosis of breast cancer. I would bet that there are plenty of women who are more qualified and palatable than Fiorina.

GO Boxer!!!!!

Posted by: emm2 | June 9, 2010 11:55 AM | Report abuse

We've all thought it at one time or another, that the Republicans are a party of CEO's whose only interest is in making money on the backs of the citizens of the United States. Now, with the California GOP primary elections of Meg Whitman (ex-CEO of eBay) and Carly Fiorina (ex-CEO of Hewlett Packard), this becomes ever more clear. Is this possibly a moment of honesty for the GOP, or did they just not have any good puppet candidates, forcing them to tap members of the secret core constituency to run for office? We may never know. The real question is whether they can fool enough Californians into thinking that they are trying to do what's good for the citizens of California, instead of doing what is good for CEO's.

Posted by: JimZ1 | June 9, 2010 11:54 AM | Report abuse

well, i could go into all the bribery, payoffs, "income redistributions" and anti-American activities of the guy, but then the Post would have to put me on staff. So the words marxist and gangster will have to suffice.

Posted by: jhr1 | June 9, 2010 11:51 AM | Report abuse

richard36,

People are willing to accept less only if it doesn't affect them. once it affects them, they want to know why their government isn't doing its job.

Posted by: pathfinder12 | June 9, 2010 11:50 AM | Report abuse

>>Well if she keeps that marxist s.o.b. from running the country into the ground, that's a good thing.

GANGSTER, MARXIST LoL - YOU CALL PEOPLE NAMES & THAT'S THE EXTENT OF YOUR "ARGUMENT" - SAYS A LOT! R U DICK CHENEY???

Posted by: StikeDC1 | June 9, 2010 11:45 AM | Report abuse

Any opponent of Barbara Boxer's needs support because Boxer's a lot like Obama, Harry Reid and Chucky Shumer in that these miscreants have never held a job outside of government. In essence while being parasites they've harmed the citizenry. Carly at least has held a job. Now if she can downsize the bloated incompetent dishonest bureaucracy, she's in line to move up. Remember ... always support and vote for anyone who's taxpayers 1st and government 2nd. Boxer is a pure advocate of forcing citizens into government dependency. What a waste of a human life.

Posted by: individual | June 9, 2010 11:45 AM | Report abuse

Boxer is punch drunk!!!

VOTE REPUBLICAN!!!

Posted by: A1965bigdog | June 9, 2010 11:28 AM | Report abuse

Why do people always fall for the business-types? Running a corporation (even as poorly as Fiorina did) is nothing like running the country. In a corporation you're the boss. In government you're just a cog who must compete with all the others in government.

Posted by: jckdoors | June 9, 2010 11:25 AM | Report abuse

Failed CEOs have a tendency to find second lives in GOP politics. Of course, they invariably replicate the same failures.

Posted by: micron26 | June 9, 2010 11:20 AM | Report abuse

Well if she keeps that marxist s.o.b. from running the country into the ground, that's a good thing.

Posted by: jhr1 | June 9, 2010 11:18 AM | Report abuse

>>Any vote that will remove a strong supporter of that Chicago gangster in the White House is a good vote. Go Carly!!!

ANOTHER INSIGHTFUL COMMENT - THIS WOMAN IS A HAG WHO FOLLOWS DUMBYA IN RUNNING COMPANIES INTO THE GROUND.

Posted by: StikeDC1 | June 9, 2010 11:03 AM | Report abuse

Boxer's abusive mouth towards the military and support of Aztlan is chasing her around like a rabid dog.
No one doubts that in her district there are illegals voting.
They are apparently doing the job that no American would do.

If Boxer goes back to Washington from dumbo California polls, let the newly seated all prosecute her as Benidict Arnold.

Is WAPO HACKER manhandling this forum again?

Posted by: dottydo | June 9, 2010 10:59 AM | Report abuse

Boxcar Boxer will get the illegal vote for sure. She is a pure Progressive and the state's economy shows it....bankrupt. Taxes are to high which she supports and legacy costs of municipal, city and state employees are killing the taxpayers also.......which she also supports. Pathetic! All this so she can keep "her job" while the rest of us is laid off. Celf centered old hag!

Posted by: vsch47 | June 9, 2010 10:56 AM | Report abuse

Any vote that will remove a strong supporter of that Chicago gangster in the White House is a good vote. Go Carly!!!

Posted by: jhr1 | June 9, 2010 10:56 AM | Report abuse

Boxer's abusive mouth towards the military and support of Aztlan is chasing her around like a rabid dog.
No one doubts that in her district there are illegals voting.
They are doing the jopb that no American would do.

Posted by: dottydo | June 9, 2010 10:52 AM | Report abuse

The FACT is Carly Fiorina’s business track record is littered with loss of jobs and devastation like a path of hurricane! Time and time again, she slashed and burned jobs and ruined viable companies. Her failures are thought in Business schools today as “how not to run a company”! Her fights with board of directors at Hewlett-Packard and forced merger with Compaq she spearheaded wiped out 30+ billion and caused 18000 jobs in combined company. Thank god she was fired before she destroyed what’s left of the company. That is not an experience to toot and one CA needs.

Posted by: KaneMan | June 9, 2010 10:50 AM | Report abuse

p1tch please -- Fiorina rode H-P into the ground, outsourcing/axing tens of thousands of jobs, etc. etc...

Oh wait, this makes her eminently qualified to be the Republicrumb candidate... never mind.

Posted by: StikeDC1 | June 9, 2010 10:50 AM | Report abuse

I made a comment almost an hour ago but it hasn't shown up yet... what gives.

Posted by: StikeDC1 | June 9, 2010 10:47 AM | Report abuse

Californians now have a clear choice. Politics as usual or business as usual.

Posted by: whocares666 | June 9, 2010 10:47 AM | Report abuse

"A primarily strong night for women"

...Wow the Republican party is re-generating itself with strong woman.

Woman that have been CEO's and know why jobs come and why they go.

The big losers last night were:

1. America's left-wing.....

2. America's mob-run unions

3. and the Gestapo division of the Democrat Party....MoveOn.org

Lincoln will lose big to a Republican as America marches to the "right" which is where we need to go.

The Democrats will continue to field their old politicians like Brown and Boxer in CA.

Fiscal conservatives are being elected throughout the country and in 2012 the mother of all fiscal conservatives will take over as POTUS.....and then the work will start.

......Mitt Romney / Robert Gates......2012 for CLEAN pragmatic and proven leadership.

........oh yeah and Obama IS the reason...

Posted by: allenridge | June 9, 2010 10:34 AM | Report abuse

Carly helped drive Lucent Technologies into the ground when she ran its premier Network Systems division. Then she went to HP in a vainglorious attempt to drive that company into the ground, only to get bribed into accepting the pink slip. Now she wants to help drive the United States into the ground.

Good grief.

Posted by: audritsh | June 9, 2010 9:58 AM | Report abuse

Carly ruined HP, so don't expect her to help California. To be frank, don't expect any elected official to save California from financial ruin. raschumacher wrote: "California is broke because of Prop 13 and the 2/3rds requirement for raising taxes, both of which are the result of referendums."

The fact of the matter is very simple, California spends more than it takes in. The people are willing to accept less and have indicated that fact by the referendums. ....however, the politicians continue to disregard the will of the people, by wasteful sending. The people must punish those politicians that fail to obey their will.

Posted by: richard36 | June 9, 2010 9:57 AM | Report abuse

Anyone incumbent who has been a part of allowing our country to be overrun by illegal aliens...and has kowtowed to militant, activist groups that demand amnesty - are part of the problem and should be removed from office.

All of our states have suffered under this invasion, the violation of our rule of law, and the resultant economic problems that result from playing nanny-state to illegals since 1986 are directly tied to supporting this devastating, corrupt political trend.

We will vote in the candidates who will tell Obama and illegal alien supporters to BUZZ OFF. NOW is the time to take your stand to protect and defend our borders.

NO AMNESTY.

Posted by: joesmithdefend | June 9, 2010 9:56 AM | Report abuse

Fiorini will be a carbon copy of Boxer. She's owned by big business and a dedicated servant of Israel.
The Teabagger candidate didn't even get 20% of the vote.

Posted by: dennisnickell | June 9, 2010 9:56 AM | Report abuse

Carly has a terrible record, much like Bush had, as an executive. She has zero qualifications and looks like a miserable old witch. Keep Boxer.

Posted by: EdSantaFe | June 9, 2010 9:53 AM | Report abuse

Californians would have to be nuts to elect Fiorina. Do they really want her to do to the US what she did to HP?

California is broke because of Prop 13 and the 2/3rds requirement for raising taxes, both of which are the result of referendums. It is the crowning achievement of the brainless immoral to-hell-with-everyone-else Grover Norquist type 'Pug. The thing most likely to save California is a constitutional convention to rein in the referendum process and allow reversal of Prop 13 and sanity on budget bills.


Posted by: raschumacher | June 9, 2010 9:42 AM | Report abuse

Most in U.S. Congress have and will spend much effort and time attacking the other person about their finance. If a candidate came from private arena then attacks will be made against those business areas where one group says caused the nation's economy to fail. Much will go to point how the private section failed to protect their business, investors and customers from failed investments and strategy. Yet, if these same private business arena people were like U.S. Congress the business they operate or operated would have ceased to exist long ago. Government is like the drowning person who takes down those who come to their rescue to the deep by clinging onto their own failed ways and weighing down the rescuer till they drown.

Posted by: browncow | June 9, 2010 9:41 AM | Report abuse

Carly Fiornia winning just goes to show how ignorant people are about the people they vote for.Fiornia was one of the worst CEO in history and yet some people want her representing them in Washington? Fiornia was paid billions to run a company into the ground. people who are screaming for change should be careful what they wish for they might get it, in Fiornia's case a disaster. You see it makes no sense

Posted by: LDTRPT25 | June 9, 2010 9:39 AM | Report abuse

Carly Fiornia winning just goes to show how ignorant people are about the people they vote for.Fiornia was one of the worst CEO in history and yet some people want her representing them in Washington? Fiornia was paid billions to run a company into the ground. people who are screaming for change should be careful what they wish for they might get it, in Fiornia's case a disaster. You see it makes no sense

Posted by: LDTRPT25 | June 9, 2010 9:38 AM | Report abuse

Boxer, even before Fiorina officially won, said the ex-Hewlett-Packard CEO had a "terrible record."

"I don't know who my opponent is going to be, but if it is Carly Fiorina, this is the clearest choice in the nation, and I am very excited about it because she is so out of step with California voters," Boxer said at event on Saturday in Los Angeles, according to the Los Angeles Times. "She has a horrific record, she hardly ever voted, she laid off 30,000 workers, she shipped their jobs to China, to Europe, to India. People suffered, she got all these perks and so I really look forward to this race."

Bring it on, Boxer. Unlike YOU, she's actually hired and fired people. The problem with career politicians like Boxer is that they love to cast aspersions on the business crowd, but they know NOTHING about running a business. And at least Carly Fiorina worked for a PRIVATE business. Guess who pays Boxer's enormous salary and benefits? WE, the taxpayers, do!! Boxer conveniently fails to mention that companies like HP moved jobs overseas because of anti-business legislation voted on by people like Boxer. Classic liberal philosophy: government hostility to business forces them off shore and the liberals blame whom? The businesses. Unbelievable! Pack your bags, Barbara, your time is up!

Posted by: linguist64 | June 9, 2010 9:16 AM | Report abuse

I'm not impressed that women Repubs won primaries. They're still uppity billionaires. Who else besides Repubs could afford to spend $70 million of their own money, to fund a primary?

Posted by: con_crusher | June 9, 2010 9:14 AM | Report abuse

I'm not impressed that women Repubs won primaries. They're still uppity billionaires. Who else besides Repubs could afford to spend $70 million of their own money, to fund a primary?

Posted by: con_crusher | June 9, 2010 9:14 AM | Report abuse

I'm not impressed that women Repubs won primaries. They're still uppity billionaires. Who else besides Repubs could afford to spend $70 million of their own money, to fund a primary?

Posted by: con_crusher | June 9, 2010 9:13 AM | Report abuse

I'm not impressed that women RepubTards won GOP primaries. Only a Repub could afford to spend $70 million of his/her own money in a primary.

Posted by: con_crusher | June 9, 2010 9:10 AM | Report abuse

Barbara Boxer has become as repulsive as Barack Obama.

Posted by: Jerzy | June 9, 2010 9:05 AM | Report abuse

I think we should restrict California from participating in Federal government given their terrible handling of their own State government. How would anyone let someone from California, regardless of political party, have any say in Federal government. They are financially and morally bankrupt, they apply laws only when it suits them, and they are fostering an illegal society that is both costly for our Nation and deterimental to those individuals (illegal immigrants) that they are exploiting. Forgot California, seal their borders and let no one out into the real world!

Posted by: staterighter | June 9, 2010 9:02 AM | Report abuse

This primary was notable for two things:
1. All over the country feisty, conservative women won and they're going after Obama and the liberal Democrats.
2. The power of a Palin endorsement:
a.Meg Whitman won-endlorsed by palin.
b.Carly Fiorina won-endorsed by Palin.
c.Sharron Angle won-endorsed by Palin.
d.Nikki Haley won-endorsed by Palin.

Conservative American women are on the march and they don't like the agenda of Obama and the liberal Democrats.

Posted by: BruceMcDougall | June 9, 2010 8:53 AM | Report abuse

Fiorina complaining about unemployment? Now that's rich. She is responsible for destroying both HP and Compaq, and the layoff of thousands upon thousands of workers. How could anybody vote for someone who is responsible for killing so many American jobs?

Posted by: ancient_mariner | June 9, 2010 8:42 AM | Report abuse

i watched fiorini on c-span give her victory speech tueday night. she's got all the 40-year-old gop talking points down pat. no question about that. of course, much of what she said was patently stupid.

she claimed that many elected officials (presumably she was talking about barbara boxer, her november opponent) are not held "accountable." huh? what exactly does carly think elections are about?

she also criticized boxer for pretty much single-handedly letting iran develop a nuclear bomb. huh? and exactly what would carly do to prevent it?

if candidate fiorini is held to the same "accoutability" standards she wants elected officials to meet, well, much of her rhetoric might expose her as a wannabe who should not be.

Posted by: jtfloore | June 9, 2010 8:40 AM | Report abuse

Wasn't Carly a blond when she shilled for McCain? Is she copying Boxer's do?

Posted by: DemoDevil | June 8, 2010 9:02 PM

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DemoDevil, get informed before making stupid remarks.

On February 20, 2009 Fiorina was diagnosed with breast cancer. She underwent surgery at Stanford Hospital on March 2, 2009 followed by chemotherapy, which caused her to lose her hair, and radiation therapy. She has been given "an excellent prognosis for a full recovery." Upon announcing her campaign for the U.S. Senate seat held by Barbara Boxer, Fiorina stated "I have to say that after chemotherapy, Barbara Boxer just isn't that scary anymore!!!!

Posted by: charlietuna666 | June 9, 2010 8:16 AM | Report abuse

Fiorina...isn't she the one, while at the head of HP, engineered the HP - Compaq debacle. Nearly drove the venerable old HP out of business, until she was fired (with a golden parachute).

Posted by: WPL22 | June 9, 2010 8:14 AM | Report abuse


Far left liberal Barbara Boxer will be ousted from the United States Senate in 146 days from now.

The leftists who ran this country into the ground are going to be removed from office.

Posted by: screwjob16 | June 9, 2010 8:09 AM | Report abuse

Fiorina is a joke. She failed in business, and Californians know that very well. We should see the last of her on election night in November, and none too soon. She ruined HP. Ask any employee and you'll get an earful.

Posted by: adrienne_najjar | June 9, 2010 8:07 AM | Report abuse

Having suffered through 20 years of Boxer incompetence, I choose to take my chances with Fioina!

Fresh slate! Lower taxes! Jobs! Jobs! Jobs!

Posted by: imaginemore | June 9, 2010 12:24 AM
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Just like she did for Hewlett-Packard. Brilliant.

Posted by: luridone | June 9, 2010 7:48 AM | Report abuse

I'm so glad I don't live in California, land of the Hollyweird crowd . . . .land of people who get publicly fired from large corporations now thinking they 'deserve' to be in charge of a State, land of people who make freaky 'sheep' videos as campaign ads.


http://www.demonsheepmovie.com/

(no that was not an endorsement, not 'free' advertising for a specific candidate--it is meant to ridicule all California candidates!)

Posted by: momof20yo | June 9, 2010 7:25 AM | Report abuse

OMG the California GOP could have done MUCH, MUCH better. Carly Fiorina is a part of the corporate elite that sank this nation into recession. She was a terrible CEO and was fired. Does anyone recall when the McCain camp fired here as well for the damage she was doing to his campaign?

I say good luck, but whether you like Obama or not, she was just not the one to represent the GOP in California.

Posted by: concernedaboutdc | June 9, 2010 7:18 AM | Report abuse

OBAMA FOLLOWS BANKRUPT GREECE MODEL!!!
Stubborn, arrogant liberal Obama still pursued his unpopular, costly healthcare reform (more than one trillion dollars), a copy of bankrupt Greece model, even after the people of Massachusetts, which is one of the most liberal states, had spoken against it. And he never wants to enforce immigration laws so illegal immigrants can keep receiving welfare and healthcare benefits as in the case of Obama's aunt Zeituni Onyango, an illegal immigrant from Kenya yet lived in taxpayer-funded public housing complex in Boston for many years and also contributed $260 to Obama's presidential bid. In fact, Obama, with his immigration reform, wants to naturalize twelve million illegal immigrants so they can get healthcare coverage and vote for his Democratic Party. Worse still, without California's votes, Obama would have never become President, but he refused to give financial aids to California while bribing Nebraska, Louisiana, and Arizona to accept his healthcare reform. And both Barbara Boxer and Loretta Sanchez, who are facing re-election this year, are hardcore supporters of Obama's unpopular healthcare and immigration reforms.

Posted by: TIMNGUYEN1 | June 9, 2010 3:22 AM | Report abuse

DEMODEVIL you are an idiot, she is not copying boxer, she had breast cancer, lost her hair and its just now growing out, typical libs, so insensitive. and typical wp readers, mostly all libs, boxer has done crap for california, everyone is leaving here, she has been senator to long and does nothing to help, its one of the worst states, and remember she has been here longer then the gov. so do not try to blame him, what has she done for the common people, tell us. she is arrogant, conceited, and elitist, she needs to go!! and knew wp would write something like this.

Posted by: cristanti | June 9, 2010 2:55 AM | Report abuse

MY QUESTION IS: WHO ARE ALL OF THIS UGLY PEOPLE SURROUNDING MEG WHITMAN?

Carly Fiorina is a joke and gaffe prone. This should be an interesting race especialaly since she ran as the conservative Republican. Fiorina wrapped herself up in the pro-life movement and everything else conservative. She even mocked climate change. This might work in Alabammy, but it won't sell in California. Boxer will make sure of that. It will be close, but there won't be enough idiots to put Fiorina over the top.

Posted by: juanchin | June 9, 2010 1:56 AM | Report abuse

I have a ready project, which can create about 9,5 million new jobs in the USA
...673,658 new jobs in California only.... ,within a very short amount of time !
I hope, my project can also help Senator Boxer's campaign !
Job creation is necessary for 15 millions of unemployed American people , job creation is vital for the US economy !
Budget needed : $ 49,2 billion !
Is this too much to invest for 9,5 million new jobs ??
Senator Boxer , I need your ,and the US Government's help to realize my project !
Time is running out for 15 millions of unemployed American people !
...jobs report was terrible !...
...the outlook for Los Angeles,and California is worse than...!
Senator Boxer , I have a ready project !
9,5 million new employment opportunities !
(673,658 new jobs in California only !)
I need your , and the US Government's help to realize it !
Time is running out for 15 millions of unemployed American (2 million of Californian) people !
And again,I believe,that my project can also help your campaign !
Kalman Menyhart, Sherman Oaks, CA

Posted by: menyhartsoccer | June 9, 2010 1:28 AM | Report abuse

I'm going to be Carly Fiorina for Halloween. Where do I rent a golden parachute?

I hope the 28,000 ex-HP employees who she dumped while getting that parachute have the sense to vote for Boxer.

Posted by: ArmyBrat68 | June 9, 2010 1:09 AM | Report abuse

Wasn't she the chick who said "Americans aren't promised jobs" while being the CEO of Hewlett-Packard, when her company was outsourcing thousands of American jobs???

Carly can cut her hair and inject that botox needle in her forehead all she want... but Caliafornians still love them some BOXER!!!!

Posted by: danders5000 | June 9, 2010 12:55 AM | Report abuse

Wasn't she the chick who said "Americans aren't promised jobs" while being the CEO of Hewlett-Packard, when her company was outsourcing thousands of American jobs???

Carly can cut her hair and inject that botox needle in her forehead all she want... but Caliafornians still love them some BOXER!!!!

Posted by: danders5000 | June 9, 2010 12:53 AM | Report abuse

Fiorina is "for increased off-shore oil drilling, as well allowing people on the "no-fly" list to purchase guns."

Outside of some ideological argument that fuels all republican debate, because that's all you have, how do you suppose this will actually do any good for anyone?

Drilling has proven to be a disaster in the making, but since you guys can never say, "we were wrong," you just trot out your agenda and want to do more of the same to justify that you made a mistake in the first place."

Then you talk about how the conservatives are better at keeping this country safe, invade Iraq after nineteen, count 'em, nineteen hijackers fly into our buildings, thus turning millions of Muslims radical, when they weren't to begin with, thus fulfilling Osama Bin Laden's prediction and WISH, and now you want to arm people on the no-fly list! I do not get it. I really do not get it. I suppose I'm stupid. Someone, without calling me names, please tell me how this is supposed to protect us?

Me thinks all you have is ideology without substance, meaning or workability.

Posted by: museum2 | June 9, 2010 12:32 AM | Report abuse

Having suffered through 20 years of Boxer incompetence, I choose to take my chances with Fioina!

Fresh slate! Lower taxes! Jobs! Jobs! Jobs!

Posted by: imaginemore | June 9, 2010 12:24 AM | Report abuse

Carly, PLEASE save our great nation from Boxer, the most vulgar, stupid and grotesque creature ever to crawl out of a cesspool.

Posted by: thebump | June 9, 2010 12:05 AM | Report abuse

I am abashed by your capacity for understatement markiejoe, Carly is an embarrassment to HUMAN everywhere!

Posted by: fr3dmars | June 9, 2010 12:04 AM | Report abuse


Carly fought cancer I think. I heard something briefly about that after she was campaign manager for McCain.
But I am not sure.

I hope she wins and goes all the way.
It's time for a change in California.

Posted by: TheBabeNemo | June 8, 2010 11:09 PM | Report abuse

Fiorina has got what it takes.
She answers the questions poised to her.
She's direct, with the right words.

Didn't she battle cancer too or something of that nature?

Boxer has been around too long and didn't do much to help Calif.. Seems to me Boxer went for the glory. Does she have good accomplishments for her years in office?
Not really.

I feel that Carly would probably do more in her first week. She's a go-getter.

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Posted by: itkonlyyou108 | June 8, 2010 9:21 PM | Report abuse

Carly Fiorina is an embarrassment to politicians everywhere.

Posted by: markiejoe | June 8, 2010 9:14 PM | Report abuse

I'm writing this from California, where the polls have been closed for 10 minutes and I have not seen any election results.

I thought it was customary to wait for the votes to be counted before announcing the results.

Posted by: shadowmagician | June 8, 2010 9:12 PM | Report abuse

Wasn't Carly a blond when she shilled for McCain? Is she copying Boxer's do?

Posted by: DemoDevil | June 8, 2010 9:02 PM | Report abuse

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