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At CNBC town hall, Obama is asked: 'Is the American dream dead?'

Updated 1:37 p.m.

By Ariana Eunjung Cha and Nia-Malika Henderson

President Obama, speaking at a town hall Monday on CNBC, had a specific audience in mind -- Wall Street, big business and investors.

For weeks, Obama has been engaging in what some might call a bit of class warfare as he's pushed for rolling back the Bush tax cuts for upper-income earners and leaving the middle-class breaks in place. This hasn't set too well with big business. Nor have the sweeping financial regulations that Obama signed into law, which stripped some power from Wall Street and increased Washington's oversight.

Monday's town hall meeting started off on a sour note when the first questioner from the audience, a woman who said she voted for him, said she is "deeply disappointed with where I am now."

"My husband and I thought we were beyond the hot dog and beans of our lives. ... Is this my new reality?" she asked.

"I understand your frustration," Obama said. He defended his administration's efforts to help the middle class, listing achievements such as better protection for mortgage loans and health insurance for those with preexisting conditions.

But the hits continued.

A representative from the business community, Kenneth Langone, a co-founder of Home Depot, asked via a video feed for an explanation of what he sees as the administration's anti-business stance.

Then a 30-year-old law school graduate said he's no longer able to make the interest payments on his educational loans, much less able to have a mortgage or a family. He said he had been inspired by Obama's campaign. But now, "that inspiration is dying away," he said. "I really want to know: Is the American dream dead?

"Absolutely not. ... There is not a country in the world that would want to change places with us," Obama responded. "We are still the country that billions of people in the world look to and aspire to."

Through the negative questioning, Obama appeared at ease, repeating variations of things he's said for months in speeches about the economy.

The one question that seemed to throw him off was about the "tea party." A Georgetown University MBA student asked him to comment about the conservative movement's calls for the administration to get the budget under control.

After saying that the United States has a "noble tradition" of being "helpfully skeptical of government," Obama went on the attack. He said members of the tea party are "misidentifying sort of who the culprits are here." He said the government has been dealing with two tax cuts that weren't paid for and two wars that weren't paid for -- alluding to actions by the Bush administration.

He challenged the tea party to come up with specific tax cuts or ways to control spending, rather than just talking about the need to reduce the $4 trillion deficit and hoping that "magically somehow things are going to work."

"We're not going to be able to solve the problem just by yelling at each other," he said.

He then, a bit jarringly, turned the conversation back to Wall Street. "We haven't raised corporate tax rates since I've been in office," he said.

Obama drew enthusiastic applause only a handful of times during the town hall, which seemed to be filled mostly with people who had stories of disappointment and frustration. One such positive moment was near the end of his talk, when he got a question about another nation some Americans blame for U.S. troubles: China.

The president said the administration has been bringing more actions regarding the communist country, which is blamed for holding its currency artificially low, thus making its goods cheaper to export and hurting U.S. jobs.

"We are going to enforce our trade law much more effectively than we have in the past. ...We want to make sure trade is good for American businesses and American workers, and in the past few years it hasn't been," he said.

While it's often hard to judge whether the president has actually broken through in such forums, this time it'll be easy. Just check the markets at the end of the day.

By Washington Post Editor  | September 20, 2010; 11:55 AM ET
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Then why on earth did the Democrats nominate someone for President with no grasp of economics, no experience in the private sector, no experience leading anything larger than a Senate office, and no real accomplishments in his entire legislative career in the Illinois and US Senate? Does that sound like someone well equipped to handle a generational economic crisis?

Posted by: Illini | September 20, 2010 10:54 PM | Report abuse


Maybe because all the types of people you mention there are the same people who got us into this mess.
John Snow
Paulson
Oneill (who, incidently, quit because he knew the Bush policies would have devestating "generational" effects.)

Plus, most business people understand that as good manager knows how to gather information, filter the noise form the substance, make decisions based on that information and implement.

Prior knowledge of a subject is not as important as proactive management skills. Knowledge is everywhere - except your head.

Posted by: Blurred | September 21, 2010 10:40 AM | Report abuse

obama was an experiment that failed just like dinkins in New York. One played tennis, the other golf. Neither had a clue. They were elected on one basis and one basis only. I'm always wondering why obama won't release his grade point average from college. Is he afraid that it was lower than Bush's?

Posted by: LTCRETUSAR | September 21, 2010 9:02 AM | Report abuse

obama was an experiment that failed just like dinkins in New York. One played tennis, the other golf. Neither had a clue. They were elected on one basis and one basis only. I'm always wondering why obama won't release his grade point average from college. Is he afraid that it was lower than Bush's?

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Posted by: Richard18

For all you O'Donnell loving dingbats in Becktopia, the economy was DOA the day Obama stepped into the Oval office...
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Then why on earth did the Democrats nominate someone for President with no grasp of economics, no experience in the private sector, no experience leading anything larger than a Senate office, and no real accomplishments in his entire legislative career in the Illinois and US Senate? Does that sound like someone well equipped to handle a generational economic crisis? All you fools who voted for him are now seeing him for what he really is - a lackluster leader who has no clue what he's doing.

Posted by: Illini | September 20, 2010 10:54 PM | Report abuse

The American Dream is alive for those who support big government, the only major sector of the economy adding jobs, with new bureaucracies created every other week, with or without Congress' blessing. You want to ensure your American Dream? Become a bureaucrat, or plan on shining their shoes.

Posted by: srpinpgh | September 20, 2010 6:09 PM | Report abuse

Someone in the White House is getting fired after Obama had to face some real questions instead of the usual DNC friendly media pablum. You could almost see his nose growing as he tried to explain himself.

Posted by: greendayer | September 20, 2010 5:24 PM | Report abuse

"While it's often hard to judge whether the president has actually broken through in such forums, this time it'll be easy. Just check the markets at the end of the day."

At the end of the day, the Dow was up by over 145 points, and it's up by over 2500 points since the day that Wall Street's hero was sent scurrying back to Texas.

Not that anything would ever satisfy this pathetic group of millionaire whiners, who won't be satisfied until the last middle class job becomes reduced to the minimum wage. With enemies like this, President Obama must be doing something right.

Posted by: andym108 | September 20, 2010 5:11 PM | Report abuse


Leftists think that Barry's problem with the American people is that he does not talk enough.

Posted by: screwjob21 | September 20, 2010 5:09 PM | Report abuse


Leftists think that Barry's problem with the American people is that he does not talk enough.

Posted by: screwjob21 | September 20, 2010 5:08 PM | Report abuse

Good answer, steelwheel25!
Responsible Americans should challenge those of their fellow citizens who lash out at the President with angry claims and bombastic slogans but never offer serious suggestions (or get their facts straight). Obama walked into the worst economic mess in 70 years, and has steadily started to right the ship. The GOP offers nothing but bile and bumpersticker slogans.

Posted by: tmginnova | September 20, 2010 4:47 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: georges2
Ah, the Obama apologists on this site. Disgusting! I'd really like to know exactly how many of you have actually benefitted from having Obama in the White House. I'm sure the number will be rather low - unless you're on welfare and think that the rest of us should be responsible for your life. Obama has done nothing. Stop handing out the Pelosi/Reid line! You're wasting your time! We're retaking this country and you will now have to work for a living!
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georgie porgie pudding & pie he makes everyone cry by telling BIG LIES!

georges2 ,
I am an Obama supporter and I am gainfully employed and enjoying the tax break the President enacted for middle class income earners like myself. I have never been on welfare and curious as to how you came to the conclusion that I am simply because I support President Obama? You really should THINK and put aside your angery & spiteful biases before you go around making bombastic accusations!!


Posted by: SteelWheel25 | September 20, 2010 4:21 PM | Report abuse

janet8 writes:

"Why doesn't Obama hold a Town Hall meeting with all Tea Party members in the audience and they'll show him ways to cut taxes and control spending."

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The Tea Party members nor the GOP will answer the question "What specific budget items would you cut or substantially reduce that will have a measurable impact on reducing the Nation's debt?"

To this day all we've gotten out of the Tea Party people is the lie that POTUS is a tax & spend liberal socialist Kenyan marxist. And from the GOP "NO"

Posted by: SteelWheel25 | September 20, 2010 4:12 PM | Report abuse

Ah, the Obama apologists on this site. Disgusting! I'd really like to know exactly how many of you have actually benefitted from having Obama in the White House. I'm sure the number will be rather low - unless you're on welfare and think that the rest of us should be responsible for your life. Obama has done nothing. Stop handing out the Pelosi/Reid line! You're wasting your time! We're retaking this country and you will now have to work for a living!

Posted by: georges2 | September 20, 2010 3:45 PM | Report abuse

"For all you O'Donnell loving dingbats in Becktopia, the economy was DOA the day Obama stepped into the Oval office. Check the stats wingnuts. Jesus H. Christ couldn't have saved the country from what George "the male cheerleader" wrought upon the country.
And you think bums like O'Donnell are going to do better?? Take your meds.
Posted by: Richard18 | September 20, 2010 3:21 PM | Report abuse "

President Bush had lots of help from pelosi and reid and franks and dodd...
President Bush did not stop the house and senate from overseaing the mortgage market, the dems did...
anybody but a dem...
remember that when you vote...

Posted by: DwightCollins | September 20, 2010 3:31 PM | Report abuse


55% of likely voters disapprove of Barry's job performance. Way to go Barry. 43 daya until Election Day.

Posted by: screwjob21 | September 20, 2010 3:31 PM | Report abuse

For all you O'Donnell loving dingbats in Becktopia, the economy was DOA the day Obama stepped into the Oval office. Check the stats wingnuts. Jesus H. Christ couldn't have saved the country from what George "the male cheerleader" wrought upon the country.

And you think bums like O'Donnell are going to do better?? Take your meds.

Posted by: Richard18

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Richard18 would benefit from what HHS Secretary Kathleen (The Grim Reaper) Sibelius calls 're-education.' (Why bother.)

Frankly, let dinosaurs like 'Richard18' rave and rant. It's entertaining.

Posted by: peterd | September 20, 2010 3:29 PM | Report abuse

Is the American Dream dead? Doesn't seem so when the link to this article on WaPo's home page is next to an advertisement for Tiffany's. Sigh. (and that's about the economy, not anything in a little blue box)

Posted by: smiles4sunandrain | September 20, 2010 3:26 PM | Report abuse

Obama's statement, according to this article: "Absolutely not...There's not a country in the world that would want to change places with us"

Huh? If that is a typo, it shouldn't be. Typical Obama apologist for America.

Posted by: bbwk80a1 | September 20, 2010 3:26 PM | Report abuse

janet8 writes:

"Why doesn't Obama hold a Town Hall meeting with all Tea Party members in the audience and they'll show him ways to cut taxes and control spending."


Because these people are to stupid for anyone to hold a town hall with. Want an example? DEATH PANELS, they were never in the bill but these yokels where to stupid to read that provision and relied on the great thinker from Alaska.

Posted by: rharring | September 20, 2010 3:23 PM | Report abuse

What is it with the media? You reported the questions as the story. Duh? They were programmed to give the President a foil. The news was the answers, even if they were not new answers, even if they were not outrageous sound bites and bumper-sticker slogans. "Jarringly?" "One positive note?" The Washington Post, of all papers, should be better than that. This is why I watch news conference rather than trust amateurs.

Posted by: chessnic | September 20, 2010 3:23 PM | Report abuse

Yes, the American Dream is and should be dead for those who breed willy-nilly out of wedlock and can't afford Dr. Seuss books for their two- and three-year-olds. If a kid enters kindergarten without having had a parent regularly read bedtime stories to him, he's doomed forever to a life of hedge-trimming, toilet-cleaning and/or gang-banging. It's that simple.

Both our great agricultural and industrial eras are behind us. From now on, only those who can think abstractly, manipulate information and communicate successfully can reasonably expect to achieve middle-class or upper middle-class status. All others should abstain from procreation for thier own good.

And finally, folks, corporations do not pay taxes. Their customers -- you and I -- pay their taxes for them when they invariably pass those costs along to us in the form of higher prices for goods and services. So let's end the sham of "corporate taxes" today and stand back to watch our economy boom and again lead the world.

Posted by: NorplantNow | September 20, 2010 3:23 PM | Report abuse


More shuck and jive from Barry the lying weasel Obama.

Posted by: screwjob21 | September 20, 2010 3:22 PM | Report abuse

For all you O'Donnell loving dingbats in Becktopia, the economy was DOA the day Obama stepped into the Oval office. Check the stats wingnuts. Jesus H. Christ couldn't have saved the country from what George "the male cheerleader" wrought upon the country.

And you think bums like O'Donnell are going to do better?? Take your meds.

Posted by: Richard18 | September 20, 2010 3:21 PM | Report abuse


More shuck and jive from Barry the lying weasel Obama.

Posted by: screwjob21 | September 20, 2010 3:21 PM | Report abuse


More shuck and jive from Barry the lying weasel Obama.

Posted by: screwjob21 | September 20, 2010 3:20 PM | Report abuse


More shuck and jive from Barry the lying weasel Obama.

Posted by: screwjob21 | September 20, 2010 3:19 PM | Report abuse

Reply to:

Give it two more years. Obama will be re-elected because the economy will show improvement.

Posted by: kflet3
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Dear kflet3:

Ignorance is bliss, isn't it?

How about: Give Obama two more years and America's serfdom will be set in stone.

You need to sober up. It won't be just me that will hate the America of Obama 2012. You, kflet3, will hate it, just as much.

Obama is all about more and more bad news for Americans. Help America repel the Obama assault. You don't have to be a conservative. Even liberal Democrats are realizing Obama is leading us along a nightmarish path.

Posted by: peterd | September 20, 2010 3:18 PM | Report abuse

"misidentifying sort of who the culprits are here." ? actually they and history have it right, the culprits are marxist/socialist policies. Bigger the Government the small the people.

Posted by: corp21 | September 20, 2010 3:16 PM | Report abuse

Obama said "He challenged the tea party to come up with specific tax cuts or ways to control spending..."

Obama could start by not using goverment funds as paybacks to his donors, i.e., SEIU, ACORN, AFL-CIO, Goldman Sachs (being fined $650,000 after profiting over $14 million IS a nice payback), the non-profits and other cronies.

Then he could tell Pelosi/Reid to let Congress READ the bills before they vote.

Repeal the Health Care and Financial Reform bills.

Get back the $8 billion be gave Kenya to entice their Parliament to vote Yes for a new constitution.

Get back the $483 Billion to Palestine.

Get back the $50 billion to Brazil for their offshore drilling (I thought Obama said it ruins the environment?) and so Soros who is heavily invested in Brazilian oil doesn't profit.

Take back funds to NASA for Muslim outreach. I thought NASA was supposed to be in space exploration?

Oh and yes, extend ALL the "BUSH" tax cuts.

And on, and on, and on.

Why doesn't Obama hold a Town Hall meeting with all Tea Party members in the audience and they'll show him ways to cut taxes and control spending. And I'm sure they'll have some "dandy" questions for him, too.

Posted by: janet8 | September 20, 2010 3:12 PM | Report abuse


How is that 55% disapproval rating of Barry's going for you Obama toadies? Not so good, hmm? Barry is already a lame duck president after 20 months in office.


43 days until Election Day. See you at the polls, Dims.

Posted by: screwjob21 | September 20, 2010 3:11 PM | Report abuse

Nope. The American Dream isn't dead, just on hold til we get rid of the socialist in the Whitehous.

Posted by: bbwk80a1 | September 20, 2010 3:11 PM | Report abuse

Obama was composed, lucid, and balanced? So? He has no ideas to help people get jobs. Who cares if you're "composed, lucid, and balanced" if you've nothing to offer. If you liberals think members of the Tea Party are scary, you are blind to what TRUE HORROR really is: SO-CALLED LIBERAL IDEAS! Dump Obama! He's done nothing for this country. Elect Republicans, REAL REPUBLICANS. If you people believe ANYTHING Obama has to say, you deserve the disaster that is coming!!!

Posted by: georges2 | September 20, 2010 3:10 PM | Report abuse

Last time I looked, the markets were up today - way up. Is that any kind of breakthrough?

Posted by: fishellb | September 20, 2010 3:06 PM | Report abuse

I can't wait to get this ignorant Obozo out of office. All I hear when he talks is Blah Blah Blah.....

Posted by: bailey50 | September 20, 2010 3:04 PM | Report abuse

The audience was preselected, the moderator was a notorious left-wing journalist, but Obama still was rattled by almost all questions. So he just kept falling back on the gimmick of blaming everything on Bush. Bur here are some facts. The Republican Congress ended 4 years ago, Bush’s presidency ended 2 years ago. Obama has been president for 2 years. Pelosi and Reid have been in charge of Congress, where budgetary decisions are made, for 4 years. The recession began in 2007 and ended in 2009. In 2006, before Pelosi and Reid assumed power, the unemployment rate was 4.6 %. In 2008, before Obama became president, it was 5.8%,. Today it is 9.6 %. The German economy recovered months ago and now is booming. The American economy remains in the ruts. Make your own judgment.

Posted by: suegbic1 | September 20, 2010 3:04 PM | Report abuse

The American dream is dead. With our jobs being outsourced to totalitarian countries with a standard of living lower than ours. With their population having subsidized education in technology and the sciences while our public univerrsities are beinf [privatized, what hope do we have of competing? Even your healthcare information is being sent to India for processing.

Posted by: techworker | September 20, 2010 3:03 PM | Report abuse

The American dream is dead. With our jobs being outsourced to totalitarian countries with a standard of living lower than ours. With their population having subsidized education in technology and the sciences while our public univerrsities are beinf [privatized, what hope do we have of competing? Even your healthcare information is being sent to India for processing.

Posted by: techworker | September 20, 2010 3:01 PM | Report abuse

"A representative from the business community, Kenneth Langone, a co-founder of Home Depot, asked via a video feed for an explanation of what he sees as the administration's anti-business stance."


So how about some real reporting ... what was Obama's response.
When I shop Home Depot the place is humming. What is it Mr. Langone sees as the administration's anti-business stance?

Is it asking business to pay taxes on all their Chinese products???

Posted by: knjincvc | September 20, 2010 3:00 PM | Report abuse

Of course the American Dream is dead. It died even before Reaganomics. It died when congress legislated affirmative action, created set-asides for minorities, started creating set-asides for "single mothers" (you know it was the average American's fault that these women made pee-poor choices in their lives), and on and on. When someone lived by the rules, worked hard, paid for their own education only to have their hardfought dream snatched away from them (no fault of their own) because "we didn't have enough representation of colored people or gender-righting." What a load of crap!!!

Posted by: bigisle | September 20, 2010 3:00 PM | Report abuse

TYPO ALERT:

"Absolutely not. ... There is not a country in the world that would want to change places with us," Obama responded. "We are still the country that billions of people in the world look to and aspire to."

CORRECTION:

"Absolutely not. ... There is not a country in the world that would NOT want to change places with us," Obama responded. "We are still the country that billions of people in the world look to and aspire to."

Compare your account with The New York Times, for example.

Posted by: dfleiss | September 20, 2010 2:57 PM | Report abuse

To republicans and conservs, its all about being negative. The national debt was not caused by president Obama, get it. The fact that we still have a deficit is prove that republicans, conserv and democrats are the same. Our debt grows and the lies grows exponentially and until we face one truth nothing will ever change. Until we hold our officials feet to the fire, our debt will continue to grow. The Tp/Republicans talk alot but have no plans but yet their base is all excited. Why? They like to be bent over and taken by someone with the same party affiliation. Atleast Pres.Obama has made the tough choices to get our country back on the road to recovery. But this is not good enough, the TP and republicans and their base want: More tax breaks for the super rich(Yes gates is suffering). The base wants to repeal gov't Healthcare while all senators, congress man and women have gov't healthcare. They want CC companies to be able to cheat you and you remain helpless. The talk about pork but once they get in power, pork will be used to keep their base happy. Atleast Deomcrats help more than themselves and the super rich, they help all Americans..Bring it on conservs, TPs and republicans, can't wait til Nov.

Posted by: Realistic5 | September 20, 2010 2:49 PM | Report abuse

Obama has accomplished a lot. Given the broken financial system and huge deficit he was handed by the Republicans.

But Obama needs to stop being so professor-like, so Jimmy Carter - like in that he needs to stop explaining so much. Americans listen to soundbites and the media carries soundbites.

Reagan had a lousy 8 years and passed less legislation than Carter did in 4 years. But Reagan would not take off his rosey shaded glasses and made people think things were good. And it worked. At least in making people feel good.

Obama needs to work on image and soundbites. Palin is a moron, but her soundbites make it on every network! She sells, even though she says nothing. Scary.

The American people aren't smart enough to really look at what is going on? Big business will keep saying anything that helps the middle class think what big business is against is socialist. And people buy it. The big businesses who almost ruined our economy still succeed in having Americans praise the rich and not care for themselves.

The global economy sucks. If you think the President -- in office for less than two years -- can change that, then you are mistaken.

Give it two more years. Obama will be re-elected because the economy will show improvement.

Posted by: kflet3 | September 20, 2010 2:49 PM | Report abuse

To republicans and conservs, its all about being negative. The national debt was not caused by president Obama, get it. The fact that we still have a deficit is prove that republicans, conserv and democrats are the same. Our debt grows and the lies grows exponentially and until we face one truth nothing will ever change. Until we hold our officials feet to the fire, our debt will continue to grow. The Tp/Republicans talk alot but have no plans but yet their base is all excited. Why? They like to be bent over and taken by someone with the same party affiliation. Atleast Pres.Obama has made the tough choices to get our country back on the road to recovery. But this is not good enough, the TP and republicans and their base want: More tax breaks for the super rich(Yes gates is suffering). The base wants to repeal gov't Healthcare while all senators, congress man and women have gov't healthcare. They want CC companies to be able to cheat you and you remain helpless. The talk about pork but once they get in power, pork will be used to keep their base happy. Atleast Deomcrats help more than themselves and the super rich, they help all Americans..Bring it on conservs, TPs and republicans, can't wait til Nov.

Posted by: Realistic5 | September 20, 2010 2:48 PM | Report abuse

The CEO's on the panel are just ridiculous. Sure we are enjoying the LOWEST tax rates ever, the most tax credits ever known to man, we can move our businesses anywhere in the world and not pay taxes in the US at all, we are sitting on mountains of cash and making insane amounts of money....but

WHAT HAVE YOU DONE FOR US LATELY?????

Disgusting. These Wall Street robber barons gave us this depression and now they're blaming this President for their purposely done screw ups?

These Wall Street greedheads make me want to puke.

.

Posted by: DrainYou | September 20, 2010 2:48 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: Jihm

Yes, the American Dream is dead. It died when the middle class died (was murdered) It was killed by "Globalism" - NAFTA, MFN for China, the WTO, etc. - at the hands of both of our political parties. Americans now have less "upward mobility" than the citizens of any other major Western nation - including the UK. (I was going to write, "any other major industrialized nation" - but we are no longer industrialized, are we? And that is precisely the problem.)

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Jihm,
The American Dream was never simply about "jobs". It is about possibilites and the freedom to pursue whatever possibilities a person believe they can acheive. This is not dead! I think middle Americans need to re-evaluate our relationship with "Corporate America". The American corporation has not change one bit. Its primary motivate is to maximize profit minimize cost. This was true when these same corporations did the bulk of their hiring here in the US. Now it is more profitable for American Corporations to do business elsewhere. We The People need to change how we bring about our American Dreams because working for a so called American Company is no longer the vehicle to our Dreams it once was.

Stop crying about yesterday... it only clouds the vision of the future. If we were in any other country I would be lamenting about what things use to be but I am in America and I am an American. I will keep believing in my chance of reaching the American Dream!

Posted by: SteelWheel25 | September 20, 2010 2:47 PM | Report abuse

nmg3rln writes:

"rational1982, defending that pinhead in the Oval Office must be frustrating for you, especially if you support a liar whose economic policies have ruined the futures for many Americans. This loon spends too much time golfing,"

Now now leave poor Dubya out of this, he is no longer in the Oval Office.

Posted by: rharring | September 20, 2010 2:46 PM | Report abuse

The American Dream died the day Reagonomics was born...

Posted by: demtse | September 20, 2010 2:44 PM | Report abuse

The American Dream died when Reagonomics was born...

Posted by: demtse | September 20, 2010 2:42 PM | Report abuse

Yes the Billionaires are dreaming of becoming monopolistic multi-national Trillionaires while we are buriend under new addon gadgets on top of what we already need and being paid less and less to do it... Washington in in an American Dream because the rich have so much they are dazzling them with it all the time...

Posted by: Wildthing1 | September 20, 2010 2:42 PM | Report abuse

Have the republicans ever done ANYTHING for the middle-class?

Posted by: blarsen1 | September 20, 2010 2:42 PM | Report abuse

A whole bunch of people who never thought that they would ever suck salt is sucking that mineral now. Caviar snacking wannabees have joined the disposessed of America, albeit on the more privileged side. They do not have to worry about their kids being shot on teir way to school, yet. They are standing in unemployment lines, waking up early to line up for a chance at participating in a "free" health (sickness) care caravan and eating hot dogs and beans. Never thought you would get there, eh? Filthy rich people exist in any society because there are also piss poor people ekeing out a life at the lowest rungs. Thank God for the "Socialist" products of Medicare, Medicaid and Social Security or else those lines would be longer, mortality and morbidity rates higher and epidemics raging among us would be more than just poverty, hunger, anger, unemployment and violence. Those can be dealt with through socially sensitive and considerate laws. Yes, the dream is over for those who had it. The anger we saw today was real as well as that which we were unable to see. Restoring privilege unjustly is not the answer.

Posted by: Draesop | September 20, 2010 2:42 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: fury60 | September 20, 2010 1:26 PM | Report abuse
If Obama really cared he would do something about the 11.1 million illegal aliens taking our jobs in manufacturing, construction and service industries. 8 million of which committed identity fraud by supplying their employers with stolen SSNs. A Felony.

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I don't think that Americans are lining up for the kinds of jobs that most aliens are doing in this country. farm work, lawn care, janitors, working in laundries, poultry factories and slaughter houses? And would american construction workers take jobs with non-union employers who pay no health benefits, work 12 hour days, including holidays, and not provide adequate protections against injury. I think not.

As for the reference to 8 million workers providing false SSN, there is way for employers to verify this information, but truth be told that most of the employers are quite happy to give the wink and nod and look the other way because they know they can exploit these workers and they will keep quiet. And do you really think that all 8 million crossed the border in the past 21 months? The problem with illegal immigration began a long time before Obama came into office.

Posted by: dlpetersdc | September 20, 2010 2:41 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: fury60 | September 20, 2010 1:26 PM | Report abuse
If Obama really cared he would do something about the 11.1 million illegal aliens taking our jobs in manufacturing, construction and service industries. 8 million of which committed identity fraud by supplying their employers with stolen SSNs. A Felony.

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I don't think that Americans are lining up for the kinds of jobs that most aliens are doing in this country. farm work, lawn care, janitors, working in laundries, poultry factories and slaughter houses? And would american construction workers take jobs with non-union employers who pay no health benefits, work 12 hour days, including holidays, and not provide adequate protections against injury. I think not.

As for the reference to 8 million workers providing false SSN, there is way for employers to verify this information, but truth be told that most of the employers are quite happy to give the wink and nod and look the other way because they know they can exploit these workers and they will keep quiet. And do you really think that all 8 million crossed the border in the past 21 months? The problem with illegal immigration began a long time before Obama came into office.

Posted by: dlpetersdc | September 20, 2010 2:41 PM | Report abuse

The American Dream died when Reagonomics was born...

Posted by: demtse | September 20, 2010 2:41 PM | Report abuse

rational1982, defending that pinhead in the Oval Office must be frustrating for you, especially if you support a liar whose economic policies have ruined the futures for many Americans. This loon spends too much time golfing, attending lavish dinners and concerts, sending his spouse and friends off to Spain, and apologizing to the muslim world. You need to refrain from drinking your meals from brown paper bags and face reality. The whimp in the White House is a loser.

Posted by: nmg3rln | September 20, 2010 2:37 PM | Report abuse

When republicans are elected into power and bust the rest of the unions, eliminate medicare, privatize social security, deregulate even MORE big business, allow the financial institutions to run over the middle-class--THAT'S when the American Dream will die. Right now, the banks are flush, but still not lending to qualified borrowers including small businesses. They're hoping that these practices will kill the democrats in the next election. Due to the republican control in the past, fascism has taken hold in this country and needs to be destroyed!

Posted by: blarsen1 | September 20, 2010 2:37 PM | Report abuse

This jerk has absolutely no idea about what to do about the economy. Either that, or, he knows exactly what he is doing and is destroying our economy on purpose so that he can install his socialistic society. How can anyone ever trust this man. He lied all through his campaign and continued to lie when he was elected to office. And, the 53% who voted for him cheered him on while he was sticking his index finger up at them.

Posted by: lori9 | September 20, 2010 2:37 PM | Report abuse

The excessive wealth of the rich and the excessive CEO and management salaries and bonuses when workers are being negotiated down is a prescription for the end of the capitalist system... greed gone wild, profit locomotive gone loco, in vulture capitalism is like a vulture feasting on its own body before it is even dead...

Posted by: Wildthing1 | September 20, 2010 2:30 PM | Report abuse

I have to admit, for a brief moment Mr. Obama rekindled my enthusiasm from the 2008 campaign.
But then I remembered, this guy is approaching his third year in office, and it's been one broken promise after another. With this country more deeply divided and more deeply indebted since just two years before.
If only he'd walk the talk.

Posted by: mtpeaks | September 20, 2010 2:30 PM | Report abuse

The excessive wealth of the rich and the excessive CEO and management salaries and bonuses when workers are being negotiated down is a prescription for the end of the capitalist system... greed gone wild, profit locomotive gone loco, in vulture capitalism is like a vulture eating its own body before it is even dead...

Posted by: Wildthing1 | September 20, 2010 2:29 PM | Report abuse

Obama can't even make sense of the his own policies and economic plans and he can't even say the word "God" when he quoted from the U.S. Constitution. I'm beginning to believe is more an enemy of the state and people. Pathetic.

Posted by: 45upnorth | September 20, 2010 2:27 PM | Report abuse

What we need from our President is some TRUST BUSTING of the Too Big To Fail banks.

All of them.

With ZERO severance or options or bonus for the top execs.

Free up the capital for the US job-creating small businesses - it's the only rational solution and the ONLY thing that would work, other than ending BOTH foreign civil wars of Republican adventure and firing all 250,000 mercenaries.

Posted by: WillSeattle | September 20, 2010 2:24 PM | Report abuse

For Americans maybe, but definately not for foreigners.

Posted by: highwaybluesoccer | September 20, 2010 2:20 PM | Report abuse

Anyone who don't like Obama is a racist.

Posted by: englundc

___________________

'Race Card' (and grammar) declined. Please tender something else. Pay the bill or get in the kitchen and wash some dishes.

Have a nice day!

Posted by: peterd | September 20, 2010 2:19 PM | Report abuse

If the American dream is never ending pain free economic growth than it always was a fantasy. If all the American imagination holds is a vision of an ever bigger pile of trinkets than America's dreams don't have too much value in any case. The path to a better economic future for America is a difficult one that inevitably involves some level of conflict between different segments of American society but also requires a large level of cooperation from everyone. America's economic product is generated by our businesses. When Democrats resort to uninformed bashing of those businesses, they undermine both our economic future and legitimate efforts to improve the effectiveness of business activity. When the President resorts to that kind of bashing, he seriously undermines his potential for leadership of any kind of effort that has any real chance of bringing us a better economic future.

Posted by: dnjake | September 20, 2010 2:17 PM | Report abuse

We all known by now that Obama, like any good puppet, can regurgitate the teleprompter texts fed to him by his behind-the-scenes ventriloquists. But, what we really need to know is who are these obscure puppeteers? Of even greater concern is "WHY" Obama is so devoid of coherent thought, even when addressing elementary school children, without the constant crutch of teleprompters? As an "admitted" former heavy drug abuser, the public has the right to know the extent, duration and character of all of the drugs that Obama indulged in. Some drugs are know to interfere with coherent thought processes; and, to induce relapses -or- "flashbacks". The recent AP photograph depicting Obama's bizarre and total confusion as to how to pass an umbrella thru an open gate, a task that any grammar-school child could readily negotiate, was -to say the least- disconcerting. The only way to clarify such a grave issue is for Obama to submit to independent medical analysis by recognized experts. The American electorate should demand such a review, which might well reveal the causation for Obama's total detachment from reality on such vital issues as our economic malaise. Greg Neubeck

Posted by: gneubeck | September 20, 2010 2:17 PM | Report abuse

Anyone who don't like Obama is a racist.

Posted by: englundc | September 20, 2010 2:15 PM | Report abuse

We all known by now that Obama, like any good puppet, can regurgitate the teleprompter texts fed to him by his behind-the-scenes ventriloquists. But, what we really need to know is who are these obscure puppeteers? Of even greater concern is "WHY" Obama is so devoid of coherent thought, even when addressing elementary school children, without the constant crutch of teleprompters? As an "admitted" former heavy drug abuser, the public has the right to know the extent, duration and character of all of the drugs that Obama indulged in. Some drugs are know to interfere with coherent thought processes; and, to induce relapses -or- "flashbacks". The recent AP photograph depicting Obama's bizarre and total confusion as to how to pass an umbrella thru an open gate, a task that any grammar-school child could readily negotiate, was -to say the least- disconcerting. The only way to clarify such a grave issue is for Obama to submit to independent medical analysis by recognized experts. The American electorate should demand such a review, which might well reveal the causation for Obama's total detachment from reality on such vital issues as our economic malaise. Greg Neubeck

Posted by: gneubeck | September 20, 2010 2:15 PM | Report abuse

Best I can tell, the "American Dream" was sold to the Hispanic Countries, in exchange for our allowing them to take over our factories!

China and India too!

O'Bomba's lip service to the Group formerly known as the Middle Class is simply pre-election Hyperbole, and empty Promises!

Posted by: SAINT---The | September 20, 2010 2:13 PM | Report abuse

Blaming Obama for "destroying the American dream" is simply irresponsible and ignorant. The American dream has become harder and harder to reach as we have fallen more and more behind other countries in terms of health care and education. Of course, we still have the lucky few that enjoy top-notch education and health insurance - the ones that maintain the illusion of an American dream alive.

No, Obama is not to blame for this mess. He has made his mistakes, I will not disagree. But he is on the right track. If only politicians were willing to concentrate on the future of our country instead of scoring political points for their own selfish careers, then we would have this paralyzing political situation which does do anybody any good.

Posted by: rational1982 | September 20, 2010 2:13 PM | Report abuse

The 'American Dream' is not dead.

It is the 'Race Card' that will be declined from now on. The 'Race Card' has been sent to collections.

Americans will reclaim the 'American Dream.' The race hustlers, including the Obama's, are underwater and, finally, on their own.

Posted by: peterd | September 20, 2010 2:09 PM | Report abuse

I have to say that Obama did a really nice job in this town hall.

His top comment was about tax cuts for the wealthy. Why should billionaires continue to get tax cuts when they're making billions even during a recession?

While we should slow government spending, most of us shouldn't be losing sleep if the wealthy lose their tax cuts -- they'll still be making more than most, and will continue to make money. It's what they do.


Posted by: postfan1 | September 20, 2010 2:08 PM | Report abuse

Yes, the American Dream is dead. It died when the middle class died (was murdered) It was killed by "Globalism" - NAFTA, MFN for China, the WTO, etc. - at the hands of both of our political parties. Americans now have less "upward mobility" than the citizens of any other major Western nation - including the UK. (I was going to write, "any other major industrialized nation" - but we are no longer industrialized, are we? And that is precisely the problem.)

Posted by: Jihm | September 20, 2010 2:04 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: corp21

Mr. President i have a question: So when exactly are you going to imposed these trade rules with china - in this election time or are you saving that for 2012 for your election time ? where in the meantime america is being sent down the sewer with your economically imposed debt policies.
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corp21,
This is an execellent question one every president since Richard Nixon has had troube dealing with. Ronald Reagan had a very difficult time with the Japanese and their unfair trading that eventually devastated Ford, Chyrsler, and GM. George Bush Sr. had to deal with Mexico as did Bill Clinton. Now President Obama has to deal with China. It seems to me our trade policy has very little to do with the coutries we trade with but rather how we enforce our policies.

Posted by: SteelWheel25 | September 20, 2010 2:04 PM | Report abuse

George Carlin said it best...."it's called the American Dream because you gotta be asleep to believe in it.."

Posted by: cgerrits | September 20, 2010 2:04 PM | Report abuse

Hey leftists,you might want to go back and check your facts before you spew your parrot talking points.Jimmy Carter did more deregulation then ANYBODY!!!!

Posted by: votingrevolution1 | September 20, 2010 2:01 PM | Report abuse

I would advise President Obama to stop trying to get the republicans to do what they were elected to do, that bi-partianship is a foreign word to them, and, politicians that have tried every trick in the book to stop any advancement, progress in the economy, all for the sake of regaining power and winning thise next election do not deserve any consideration.

Posted by: kathlenec | September 20, 2010 2:01 PM | Report abuse

While Righties were distracted looking for terrorists under their beds, Bush & Republicans were passing legislation giving HUGE tax breaks to corporations that moved our jobs overseas.
iow - Republicans are more interested in creating "great U.S. companie$" overseas rather than a great working America.
How any middle class family could vote Republican is mindboggling. Republicans sent middle class jobs overseas and now want the middle class to CONTINUE paying for billionaires' tax cuts.

Posted by: angie12106 | September 20, 2010 2:00 PM | Report abuse

Come november and 2012 the dream will be alive and well!!!

Posted by: votingrevolution1 | September 20, 2010 1:57 PM | Report abuse

We did it to ourselves, starting with St. Raygun's disastrous deregulation of the S&Ls, which until then provided for an orderly mortgage market. He followed on with "Post-Industrial Society" and new tax laws that rewarded Wall Street's vultures, who could write off the debt they used to buy productive companies.

Then "favored nation status" was granted to China, Mexico etc, and the great exodus of America's industrial backbone took off.

Because Wall Street ran out of small manufacturing companies to buy, sell and cripple with debt, they turned to housing, credit, derivatives and banking to make money. All of this trading of phantom assets resulted in bubble after bubble.

Sure, China, Mexico, Japan, India and Korea have sucked off the American largesse for decades. But at the same time, Wall Street also devoured our productive, long-term businesses so a few raiders could make a quick profit. We need to restore normal free, competitive enterprise and rebuild our industrial base.

For now, we should invite foreign manufacturers to set up shop in America, because they are immune to pressure from Wall Street's analysts to make a certain quarterly profit. While American companies close plants and fire thousands when they miss a quarterly profit number that Wall Street wants, foreign companies think long-term value rather than short-term.

Posted by: mongolovesheriff | September 20, 2010 1:57 PM | Report abuse

I always love how people constantly blame government action for all the economic ills in society. The successive weakening of the middle class since the 1970s is the fault of the government. The government forced corporations to import cheap labor and export industry for even cheaper labor all for more profits and lower quality. The government wants there the be double digit employment so that government funds can be used to help the homeless and starving instead of advancing the country. The government is so evil when it regulates business by forcing it to pay a living wage and have safe working conditions. Those ignorant liberals thinking people should make an honest wage for honest work. That redistribution of wealth, well he's just a socialist that Obama. The wealthy earned their money by illegally destroying the middle class and bygod they deserve to keep it!

Difference between a developed country and a poor one, the poor ones lack a defined middle class and social safety net for its people.

While Obama isn't a godsend who will fix everything, the real enemy is corporate america which has destroyed the American Dream for no other reason than greed. If corporations pay a living wage to everyone, re-establish industry in the US and eliminate all illegal employment, financial situation solved but then again the billionaires would be millionaires and we just cannot have that!!

Posted by: Redial1 | September 20, 2010 1:56 PM | Report abuse

American Dream isn't dead, but the American Reality for most who try hard to realize the Dream sure isn't the same anymore.

Posted by: TalkingHead1 | September 20, 2010 1:56 PM | Report abuse

A refreshing change from the days where George Bush would only take questions from tiny hand-picked groups of die-hard supporters who mostly just wanted to thank him for being so unbelievably wonderful.

Posted by: BurfordHolly | September 20, 2010 1:56 PM | Report abuse

As usual, there's a number of signs of bias in this article by "WaPo Editor".

For example, it claims that "The one question that seemed to throw him off was about the "tea party." But when you read his actual response, there's no indication that he was thrown off - his answer was fine.

Also, when the authors cherry-pick a question from some law school graduate who can't afford a mortgage, etc, one has to wonder whether this person is really representative or whether s/he simply provided a nice sound bite.

Posted by: dougd1 | September 20, 2010 1:56 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: ahashburn

"He challenged the tea party to come up with specific tax cuts to control spending..."

Tax cuts to control spending?

In other words, Obama must think the the government must spend every dollar, and them some, that it takes in via taxes. That tax money is burning a hole in his pocket and he thinks the only way we can stop him from spending it is to limit what we give him.
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ahashburn,

You just confirmed what the President said the Tea Party members of doing.

What specific spending(s) would you like for the President to cut that will have a measurable impact on our huge debt? You accused the President of spending every dime and then some does not answer the basic question of what we shouldn't be spending money on.

I am angry about the spending too. I agree with the Tea Party that government spending needs to be brought under DRASTIC control; however, whenever the Tea Party candidates are asked what they will cut to bring the budget under control all we hear is how bad government is and how big of a tax & spend Kenyan socialist liberal our President is. Aside from this being totally false it does not help anyone!

Posted by: SteelWheel25 | September 20, 2010 1:56 PM | Report abuse

I saw where Obama cut another deal with the Teamster's lifting weight restrictions on the nation's highways. Yet we still don't have H1B visas canceled. We don't have tax penalties in place to corporations who offshore jobs. We don't even require corporations to pay their fair share of taxes today. How about you start thinking about citizens and quit allowing the PAC's to control your agenda? I am so sick of Obama repaying favors for his election. We have seen nothing to help taxpayers and we will continue to see nothing. Time for someone else to have a chance.

Posted by: Desertdiva1 | September 20, 2010 1:55 PM | Report abuse

I agree with another commenter; although I didn't watch the town hall, I did listen to it. I thought the audience was overall supportive, and the president received applause numerous times. Even CNBC was surprised at how friendly the audience was. Unfortunate WaPo that you chose to spin it...BTW, just before clicking on to this article the Dow was up +109; one indicator according to CNBC as to how Wall Street "responded" to the president's town hall.

Posted by: bpotter110 | September 20, 2010 1:54 PM | Report abuse

Americans are pretty pathetic that they look to Obama to fix their miserable lives. Look at all these posters screaming at Obama because they lack initiative and skills of their own. China is laughing at the three posters below me.

Posted by: TwoTermObama | September 20, 2010 1:53 PM | Report abuse

WE gave Our Cildren's Dream away with the Un-Constitutional passage of the Criminal Federal Reserve Act,- back in 1913!! -- -- When and if the FBI puts non-violent Patriots on a Terrorist Watch-List,- then it is time for an Investigation by WE-the-Poeple- of the FBI! -- Our' FONNDING FATHER'S Warned of TYRANNY, & of the Enemies from With-In!- And when Our' Own Federal Agencies start to Turn on WE-the-People,-- then that sounds of Insurrection from With-In against 'WE' - the Sovereign Citizenry OWNERS of Our' CONSTITUTIONAL REPUBLIC!! -- WE must be Aware of these so-called Federal Agencies,-- whom some are NOT- Federal at all!! -- For example,- the Criminal, - but so-called "FED"- or Federal Reserve Bank,-- this so-called "FED"- is a Privately Stockholder Owned Bank,-- and was given Powers over Our' Money Supply thru the UN-Constitutional Federal Reserve Act of 1913!!! -- WE must be careful of these agencies! -- Yes,- the FBI.-- But especially of this "FED" Globalist Elitist Cartel of $BANKsters,-- whom thru issuance of DEBT-$INTEREST- upon DEBT-$INTEREST- FIAT Funny-Money have caused the Economic RAPE of Our' Great REPUBLIC! ---- AMERICA BEWARE!! --- Vote Out both the Republican & Democrat 'turn-coats' in CONGRESS- whom Support, Work-For,- and $BAIL these $BANKster THUGS!!! -- Currently,- Both RED & BLUE Parties are $Controlled & Manipulated from behind-the-scenes! - As I have been extolling for 10+ years,- WE need a New People's Patriot 3rd Party -- NOW AMERICA!!! -- - jward52

Posted by: jward52 | September 20, 2010 1:53 PM | Report abuse

I agree with another commenter; although I didn't watch the town hall, I did listen to it. I thought the audience was overall supportive, and the president received applause numerous times. Even CNBC was surprised at how friendly the audience was. Unfortunate WaPo that you chose to spin it...BTW, just before clicking on to this article the Dow was up +109; one indicator according to CNBC as to how Wall Street "responded" to the president's town hall.

Posted by: bpotter110 | September 20, 2010 1:52 PM | Report abuse

No, American Dream isn't dead and everyone's free to dream. But, the American Reality sure isn't the same as it used to be for most Americans who try to realize their American Dream.

Posted by: TalkingHead1 | September 20, 2010 1:52 PM | Report abuse

Mr. President i have a question: So when exactly are you going to imposed these trade rules with china - in this election time or are you saving that for 2012 for your election time ? where in the meantime america is being sent down the sewer with your economically imposed debt policies.

Posted by: corp21 | September 20, 2010 1:50 PM | Report abuse

Just because one gets cancer doesn't mean one dies. Let's vote out this cancer of an administration so we can thrive.

Posted by: Lynne5 | September 20, 2010 1:50 PM | Report abuse

Hmmm....where are the jobs??

Bush: Sending jobs overseas helps the U.S.
February 2004

WASHINGTON — The movement of American factory jobs and white-collar work to other countries is part of a positive transformation that will enrich the U.S. economy over time, even if it causes short-term pain and dislocation, the Bush administration said yesterday.

The embrace of foreign "outsourcing,"....

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/nationworld/2001854367_bushecon10.html

Posted by: angie12106 | September 20, 2010 1:50 PM | Report abuse

The "dream" is just a symptom . . . actually, America is dead and the merry band of Marxists in the Obama regime killed it.

Posted by: rplat | September 20, 2010 1:46 PM | Report abuse

Geez rplat, I thought I was a cynic!

Posted by: UnknownHenson | September 20, 2010 1:46 PM | Report abuse

one term. Michelle loves the perks but cannot stand the office.

Posted by: cls3434 | September 20, 2010 1:46 PM | Report abuse

Mr. President i have a question: So when exactly are you going to imposed these trade rules with china - in this election time or are you saving that for 2012 for your election time ? where in the meantime america is being sent down the sewer with your economically imposed debt policies.

Posted by: corp21 | September 20, 2010 1:45 PM | Report abuse

The "dream" is just a symptom . . . actually, America is dead.

Posted by: rplat | September 20, 2010 1:44 PM | Report abuse

Americans are pretty pathetic that they look to Obama to fix their miserable lives. Look at all these posters screaming at Obama because they lack initiative and skills of their own. China is laughing.

Posted by: TwoTermObama | September 20, 2010 1:44 PM | Report abuse

Correct, Obama has been engaging in Class Warfare for the last 24 months, and continues to do so on every topic. It tears the country apart and demonstrates his lack of understanding of economics or of America.

Perhaps he should go campaign, oops I mean run, Cuba or Venezuela.

Posted by: SamRon1 | September 20, 2010 1:43 PM | Report abuse

one term. Michelle loves the perks but cannot stand the office.

Posted by: cls3434 | September 20, 2010 1:43 PM | Report abuse

"Step right up - Snake Oil, SNAKE OIL...Come 'n git it, people"!

Posted by: inmanorj | September 20, 2010 1:41 PM | Report abuse


Unfortunately obama is pushing a different kind of American Dream: one of "obama stash" paying one's mortgage, gas money and tuition. He even wants to give the American Dream to illegal aliens! There is nothing less American than this lazy sense of entitlement.

Posted by: wmpowellfan | September 20, 2010 1:40 PM | Report abuse

Yes.

You can blame the downfall on LBJ's Great Society and the War on Poverty.

Posted by: Smarg | September 20, 2010 1:40 PM | Report abuse

"He challenged the tea party to come up with specific tax cuts to control spending..."

Tax cuts to control spending?

In other words, Obama must think the the government must spend every dollar, and them some, that it takes in via taxes. That tax money is burning a hole in his pocket and he thinks the only way we can stop him from spending it is to limit what we give him.

Posted by: ahashburn | September 20, 2010 1:39 PM | Report abuse

Its been dead for a long time now. It was a delusion to begin with. Get over it, move on. Adapt and overcome!

Posted by: UnknownHenson | September 20, 2010 1:38 PM | Report abuse

This is a ridiculous write up that does convey the spirit of the town hall.

I actually saw this town hall live. Yes, the audience asked some tough questions, but they were -- even the ones who asked the tough questions -- also quite supportive of President Obama.

Some even defended Obama's policies, and decried the attacks against his policy prescriptions.

It's too bad that Washington Post saw fit to try to spin this town hall as a rant against President Obama. Anyone who saw it knows it was nothing of the sort. In fact, it was just the opposite.

Posted by: associate20 | September 20, 2010 1:37 PM | Report abuse

This is a ridiculous write up that does convey the spirit of the town hall.

I actually saw this town hall live. Yes, the audience asked some tough questions, but they were -- even the ones who asked the tough questions -- also quite supportive of President Obama.

Some even defended Obama's policies, and decried the attacks against his policy prescriptions.

It's too bad that Washington Post saw fit to try to spin this town hall as a rant against President Obama. Anyone who saw it was nothing of the sort. In fact, it was just the opposite.

Posted by: associate20 | September 20, 2010 1:36 PM | Report abuse

Reply to Richard18:

"From Websters:

Definition of VINDICTIVE:

1 disposed to seek revenge : vengeful : intended for or involving revenge
2 intended to cause anguish or hurt : spiteful"

... The dictionary definition seems to cover the Obama administration of "Dreams From My Father" fame quite well.

You are politically and morally bankrupt when all you have is to call your fellow Americans names. Let the history of the past 18 months of the Obama presidency provide all the evidence any rational American needs to understand my statement.

Posted by: peterd | September 20, 2010 1:36 PM | Report abuse

I think the American Dream is still alive--for people who actually work hard. Nowadays, I see a lot of people who say that they work hard, but spend most of the time just complaining and whining.

Posted by: nuzuw | September 20, 2010 1:36 PM | Report abuse

"He challenged the tea party to come up with specific tax cuts to control spending,..."

Tax cuts to control spending? Since when are tax cuts needed to control spending? This gives me the impression that Obama thinks that the Government is obligated to spend every dollar, and them some, that it receives in taxes.

Posted by: ahashburn | September 20, 2010 1:34 PM | Report abuse

IS THE AMERICAN DREAM DEAD?

ANSWER: Yes.

Posted by: gglenc | September 20, 2010 1:33 PM | Report abuse

The "Is the American Dream dead" question is an indictment of the bipartisan abuse of power over the past 10 years. Where did it all go wrong? Huge budget deficits, huge trade deficits, our manned space program dead, China planning a manned mission to the moon, China ascendant economically, the U.S. economy not providing the jobs needed for a healthy middle class. I wish Obama was madder about that state of affairs than about the Tea Party. The tea party wouldn't exist if our government had its affairs in order.

Posted by: wollefs | September 20, 2010 1:31 PM | Report abuse

The American Dream is base on lot of wealth or lot of debt, and most of it is debt. how can a country living on debt last while the rich and The Federal Government helping draining what it can out of the people.

Posted by: lostdogrwd101 | September 20, 2010 1:31 PM | Report abuse

A lot of people seem to think that the government should have been able to DO SOMETHING to decrease unemployment and get the economy moving by now. But no matter who is in charge, that isn't necessarily true, not in a democracy, anyway. It just may be that this thing has to play out, and no matter the tax cuts OR the government largess, it's simply going to take as long as it takes. Remember that it took 18 months after the recession ended for employment to return to pre-recession levels after the 2001 recession - the one the Bush administration denied even existed until after it was over. The news just came out that this much, Much, MUCH worse recession "ended" in June 2009, so we have no reason to expect employment to bounce back until spring, at the very earliest. It is easy to blame the guy at the top, especially when you're hoping he fails anyway, but it isn't very smart.

Posted by: windroad1 | September 20, 2010 1:30 PM | Report abuse

Is the American dream dead? No.


Is Barrack Obama killing the American dream? Yes.

Posted by: FormerDemocrat | September 20, 2010 1:29 PM | Report abuse

Well the Un-American Republican's spent the 8 year of the Bush administration trying to kill off the American Dream, and have spent the first 2 years of President Obama praying for America to fail, and doing all in their power to block America's resurgence.

But America will beat the Republicans.

Posted by: walker1 | September 20, 2010 1:27 PM | Report abuse

If Obama really cared he would do something about the 11.1 million illegal aliens taking our jobs in manufacturing, construction and service industries. 8 million of which committed identity fraud by supplying their employers with stolen SSNs. A Felony.

If you haven't learned how much a liar Obama is by now, you may be hopeless.

Posted by: fury60 | September 20, 2010 1:26 PM | Report abuse

Obama was heartened by these questions because his goal is to reduce we selfish, exploitative Americans to the African squalor of his Marxist father.

Wake up, America, to the reality that we have elected a vindictive president who does not wish typical Americans well. Those beans and franks make the Obama lobster dinners oh so much sweeter.
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Judging from your post, you know the meaning of "vindictive" well. Exactly what facts do you base your extremist views on?

Posted by: Richard18 | September 20, 2010 1:26 PM | Report abuse

What's 'jarring' about talking of Wall Street and their rape of America? Why does that bother you so much, WaPo editor?

Posted by: TwoTermObama | September 20, 2010 1:25 PM | Report abuse

When you have a socialist who wants to redistribute the wealth then yes the dream is dead. Why? Because they don't understand that when they read the numbers on the ultra rich they don't realize as wealthy as they are it's not enough to support everyone else. Thus poverty ensues.

Posted by: FLvet | September 20, 2010 1:25 PM | Report abuse

Some of the Dems may be upset about some of the watered down policies from this administration (thanks Repubs), but they aren't nearly as nutty as todays extremist Republican Taliban party is.

"The latest New York Times/CBS News poll also finds that while voters rate the performance of Democrats negatively, they view Republicans as even worse, providing a potential opening for Democrats to make a last-ditch case for keeping their hold on power."


http://www.nytimes.com/2010/09/16/us/politics/16poll.html?_r=1&scp=2&sq=tea%20party%20poll&st=cse

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Posted by: DrainYou | September 20, 2010 1:24 PM | Report abuse

Obama was heartened by these questions because his goal is to reduce we selfish, exploitative Americans to the African squalor of his Marxist father.

Wake up, America, to the reality that we have elected a vindictive president who does not wish typical Americans well. Those beans and franks make the Obama lobster dinners oh so much sweeter.
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Judging from your post, you know the meaning of "vindictive" well. Exactly what facts do you base your extremist views on?

Posted by: Richard18 | September 20, 2010 1:24 PM | Report abuse

What's 'jarring' about talking of Wall Street and their rape of America? Why does that bother you so much, WaPo editor?

Posted by: TwoTermObama | September 20, 2010 1:24 PM | Report abuse

"Absolutely not. ... There is not a country in the world that would want to change places with us," Obama responded.

Did he meant "wouldn't" want to change places with us? Yet another "If Bush Said It" moment for our noble media.

Posted by: zippyspeed | September 20, 2010 1:19 PM | Report abuse

Obama was heartened by these questions because his goal is to reduce we selfish, exploitative Americans to the African squalor of his Marxist father.

Wake up, America, to the reality that we have elected a vindictive president who does not wish typical Americans well. Those beans and franks make the Obama lobster dinners oh so much sweeter.

Posted by: peterd | September 20, 2010 1:19 PM | Report abuse

Yes, the classic american dream of work hard, work harder, succeed is in fact dead.

According to obama, we are all obligated to support the public sector.

Funny, I thought it was the govt that worked for us.

Posted by: docwhocuts | September 20, 2010 1:18 PM | Report abuse

frluke,

If he's so cozy with Big Business, why does Big Business see him as an anti-business president?

Posted by: cbk22 | September 20, 2010 1:18 PM | Report abuse

Just imagine where we'd be if Bush, or God forbid McCain were running the show now.

Obama was composed, lucid and balanced. I'm proud the man is my President.

Posted by: Richard18 | September 20, 2010 1:18 PM | Report abuse

frluke,

If he's so cozy with Big Business, why does Big Business see him as an anti-business president?

Posted by: cbk22 | September 20, 2010 1:17 PM | Report abuse

Just imagine where we'd be if Bush, or God forbid McCain were running the show now.

Obama was composed, lucid and balanced. I'm proud the man is my President.

Posted by: Richard18 | September 20, 2010 1:17 PM | Report abuse

Yes.

Posted by: NJJACK | September 20, 2010 1:13 PM | Report abuse

This "town hall", despite the obvious supporter plants in the audience, is very challenging for the flailing POTUS.

His attacks on Rick Santelli, and others who have clearly seen through the administration for its lack of experience demonstrates Obama's first line defense -- don't answer, don't know how to answer, lack understanding of economy --- so duck, evade the question.
Pathetic showing, even though he has the support group there with him, starting with his biggest fan, John Harwood.

Posted by: pjcafe | September 20, 2010 1:01 PM | Report abuse

He just keeps on dancin'.....

Posted by: Gypsy1 | September 20, 2010 12:58 PM | Report abuse

Obama has been the gift that keeps on giving to the Banks, Wall Street, Insurance, Big Pharma, etc, etc,.... How much of the middle class is there left to give away? What a con job on all of us that supported and voted for him. He truned into another ambitious Uncle Tom.

Posted by: frluke | September 20, 2010 12:36 PM | Report abuse

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