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Dick Armey: Clinton and Gingrich traded stories about their girlfriends

By Matt DeLong

Marvin Olasky of the Christian magazine, World, has a new interview out (subscription req'd.) with former GOP House majority leader and FreedomWorks Chairman Dick Armey. The Texas Republican alleges that former House Speaker Newt Gingrich (R-Ga.) and ex-President Bill Clinton used to "bond" over wine and cigars while sharing stories about their respective marital infidelities. From the Atlanta Journal-Constitution's excerpt from the interview:

Olasky: In 1998 during the Monica Lewinsky scandal, a reporter asked you what you would do if you were in President Clinton's position. You're said to have replied, "I would not have gotten a chance to resign. I would be lying in a pool of my own blood with Mrs. Armey standing over me saying, how do I reload this thing?" True?
Armey: True. By the way, she outshoots me with a handgun and knows how to reload it.
Olasky: Who did know?
Armey: When I heard that Newt had been carrying on an affair for all the years that we'd worked together, I went home and said, "Honey, I had no idea about this." She said, "Of course not. You're the last person in town Newt would have wanted to know about this." Newt was scared of me. What I discovered: Clinton found out about the Gingrich affair and called Newt over to the White House for a private meeting between the two of them. Clinton said, "You and I are alike." Which meant, shut up about Monica or I'll start telling your story.
Olasky: Was it blackmail or bonding?
Armey: Newt and Clinton actually developed sort of a bond over it. They had many meetings that we didn't know about where they'd drink wine and smoke cigars and talk about their girlfriends. It's fascinating; why would you confess to your mortal enemy what you wouldn't tell your closest friends?
Olasky: Why did he?
Armey: Politicians are fascinating. If you ever want to do developmental psychology, use them. They are much, much, much more skillful at developing rationalizations than developing rational thought.

If true, the anecdote could require a radical reevaluation of the nature of the relationship between the two men, who were typically described as fierce enemies. Gingrich, of course, became House speaker after the tidal wave 1994 midterm election, in which the Republican Party seized control of Congress. Clinton and Gingrich became famous adversaries, culminating with Clinton's impeachment by the House for lying to Congress about his relationship with White House intern Monica Lewinsky in December 1998 -- though Gingrich resigned the previous month following GOP electoral losses. Clinton was later acquitted by the Senate. In 2007, Gingrich acknowledged carrying on an extramarital affair during the Lewinsky scandal. in 2000, Gingrich divorced his wife and married his mistress, a former congressional aide.

(Via Huffington Post)

By Matt DeLong  | October 28, 2010; 1:59 PM ET
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Comments

Dick Army is such a... well you know, such a Dick.

Posted by: lcarter0311 | October 29, 2010 8:01 PM | Report abuse

So Dickie boy claims that 2 Republicans, both of which hate Bill Clinton's guts, are witnesses to a supposed Bill Clinton confession, WHILE Bill Clinton was in the White House?

Sounds like a Republican wet dream.

Being that Dick Armey is the self-proclaimed king of the tea baggers, I wouldn't believe a word he says.

Why would Dickie boy not have mention this carnal bonding at the impeachment hearing brought against President Clinton?

Because it's a lie.

Hey Dickie boy, President Clinton isn't running for office.


Posted by: lindalovejones | October 29, 2010 4:09 PM | Report abuse

So Dickie boy claims that 2 Republicans, both of which hate Bill Clinton's guts, are witnesses to a supposed Bill Clinton confession, WHILE Bill Clinton was in the White House?

Sounds like a Republican wet dream.

Being that Dick Armey is the self-proclaimed king of the tea baggers, I wouldn't believe a word he says.

Posted by: lindalovejones | October 29, 2010 4:05 PM | Report abuse

Being that Dick Armey is the self-proclaimed king of the tea baggers, I wouldn't believe a word he says.

So Dickie boy claims that 2 Republicans, both of which hate Bill Clinton's guts, are witnesses to a supposed Bill Clinton confession, WHILE Bill Clinton was in the White House?

Sounds like a Republican wet dream.


Posted by: lindalovejones | October 29, 2010 4:04 PM | Report abuse

Being that Dick Armey is the self-proclaimed king of the tea baggers, I wouldn't believe a word he says.

So Dickie boy claims that 2 Republicans are witness to a supposed Bill Clinton confession, WHILE Bill Clinton was in the White House?

Sounds like a Republican wet dream.

Posted by: lindalovejones | October 29, 2010 4:03 PM | Report abuse

llrllr, I bet your friend was just as happy as you were that you took the skinny ones. Was there "something psychological" about that? Just a matter of taste, or "de gustibus non disputandum est" as that old chubby chaser Caesar might say. As for the the story, you can hear a lot like it and worse any given evening at your local bar, and from characters with higher ethical standards. "If true." Gotta like that. Should be the second subtitle on every one of Woodward's books.

Posted by: ex-Virginian4 | October 29, 2010 3:36 PM | Report abuse

There is no way these two spent any bonding time together. Armey must be losing his mind to think up stuff this silly.

Posted by: Chigliak | October 29, 2010 2:24 PM | Report abuse

You mean Armey didn't get this from a Woodward book?

Some people will do or say anything to get in the papers. Absurd nonsense - doesn't deserve the cost of printing it.

Posted by: robinx | October 29, 2010 1:17 PM | Report abuse

Politicos may have only one thing in common: they can lie, with straight faces. I once thought the Washington Post was a cut (or two) above the National Enquirer: that was true, some time ago--obviously that isn't so anymore.

Posted by: marc85 | October 29, 2010 1:08 PM | Report abuse

Armey sounds a bit excited by the newt bill tale,,at least newt was straight unlike most repub politicions

Posted by: gonville1 | October 29, 2010 10:58 AM | Report abuse

Armey sounds a bit excited by the newt bill tale,,at least newt was straight unlike most repub politicions

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Posted by: itkonlyyou341 | October 29, 2010 10:51 AM | Report abuse

When Dick Armey was in office he was an embarassament to Texas and the whole Country and his own political life was not without scandal. So he should not be throwing stones. He should also come out with why his Freedom Concerts from last year though very successful in attendance and money, did not provide hardly any money to the fallen soldiers or their families like it was advertized to do.
He should also explain why he himself and others were paid for these charity concerts. I would rather know the truth about this than something that supposedly happened 15 years ago.

Posted by: sumo1 | October 29, 2010 10:51 AM | Report abuse


Gosh isn't it just swell to know that the only reason Dick Armey wouldn't have an affair was because he'd be afraid his wife would "off" him.

Also interesting is the fact that Armey divorced that wife and married a much younger student.

It must be she couldn't find the "damned" gun!


Posted by: helloisanyoneoutthere | October 29, 2010 10:04 AM | Report abuse


Gosh isn't it just swell to know that the only reason Dick Armey wouldn't have an affair was because he'd be afraid his wife would "off" him.

Also interesting is the fact that Armey divorced that wife and married a much younger student.

It must be she couldn't find the "damned" gun!


Posted by: helloisanyoneoutthere | October 29, 2010 10:02 AM | Report abuse

Back to your tea party, Dick, before the marionette strings start fraying.

Posted by: mattintx | October 29, 2010 9:24 AM | Report abuse

Back to your tea party, Dick, before the marionette strings start draying.

Posted by: mattintx | October 29, 2010 9:24 AM | Report abuse

Who would believe the rest of us would believe anything Dick Armey said?

Posted by: areyousaying | October 29, 2010 9:00 AM | Report abuse

I'm not a personal friend of his, but I always thought that Clinton didn't use alcohol at all, making the idea of drinking wine with Newt a little odd.

Posted by: jhpurdy | October 29, 2010 8:52 AM | Report abuse

We care about this why?

Posted by: scootab22 | October 29, 2010 8:52 AM | Report abuse

I recall the ever so "moral majority" repubicans of this era were relentless about Clinton's sexual accomplishments! And one by one, each "moral majority" repubican fell on his own immorality sword, pleading with their respective constituencies to forgive them, and then shouting anew about the immorality of others.

Right. Got it.

Posted by: fmamstyle | October 29, 2010 8:15 AM | Report abuse

Dick Armey? Mr. Cry-on-demand ??? Please.

If Dick Armey said it was raining I would look to see if it was rain or some dog taking a wizz on my leg...

Armey -- do us all a favor, crawl back under whatever rock you were hiding your scummy self under and have a nice long cry.

Posted by: medic2010 | October 29, 2010 7:58 AM | Report abuse

The excerpt to too long to qualify as "fair use" under copyright law. You are depriving the Christian magazine from income. Thou shall not steal. Please edit your excerpt to no more than three sentences.

Posted by: TheChileanPresidentIsMuchBetterRespondingToDisastersThanObama | October 29, 2010 5:35 AM | Report abuse

What disgusting trash from the Wash Post!! This is the GOP up to its old tricks of Clinton defamation because he's out there campaigning for the Democrats non-stop. When I see slimeball hypocarites like Armey, Gingrich, Delay, et al, I think to myself, there's not a decent one of them in the GOP. Clinton travels the globe raising funds for worthy causes which isn't easy for anyone while these fat cats sit on their butts trying to make money for themselves and their lobbyists.

Posted by: pkbishop1 | October 29, 2010 12:01 AM | Report abuse

Why would anybody believe anything that Armey says?

Posted by: rashomon | October 28, 2010 11:57 PM | Report abuse

Bill should stay away from cigars.

Posted by: chunche | October 28, 2010 11:42 PM | Report abuse

Let's face it, men are pigs. Women who forgive the pig behavior for their own benefit are also pigs, AKA Hillary Clinton. There is no decency and honor left among America's poloticians.

Posted by: gone2dabeachgmailcom | October 28, 2010 10:37 PM | Report abuse

Let's face it, men are pigs. Women who forgive the pig behavior for their own benefit are also pigs, AKA Hillary Clinton. There is no decency and honor left among America's poloticians.

Posted by: gone2dabeachgmailcom | October 28, 2010 10:37 PM | Report abuse

O M G !!! Doesn't Armey know - in God's eyes - it is just as bad to lie as it is to steal!!! This guy carries his "own" reputation when mixed with mud becomes an awful dirty mess - not with women, but in his dealings with Congressional "friends."

Posted by: rbsher | October 28, 2010 10:09 PM | Report abuse

Regardless of anyone's political views, it has to be obvious to any rational person that Dick Armey is a total non-credible lowlife. Perhaps he is overcompensating for his name.

Posted by: revbookburn | October 28, 2010 9:33 PM | Report abuse

Prove it, Dick! According to Dick Armey's standard for proof it is just as plausible that Dick Armey snorted coke with a prostitute while his wife was chained to a wall in a latex cat outfit. You know, it was Halloween.

Posted by: mjwies11 | October 28, 2010 9:18 PM | Report abuse

What absolute nonsense. Surely someone would have noticed 'numerous' White House visits by Gingrich. If nothing else there are records kept of these sorts of things.

Why doesn't the WP do an in depth story on this and refute Armey's ridiculous claim?

Posted by: TheHillman | October 28, 2010 8:42 PM | Report abuse

After listening to the lurid tales, Armey was relieved his grandma was wrong and he didn't go blind after all.

Posted by: slim21 | October 28, 2010 8:32 PM | Report abuse

Promoting murder as a resolution to domestic disputes....

Posted by: Wildthing1 | October 28, 2010 7:46 PM | Report abuse

What has happened to journalistic principles? Since when did cheap gossip merit publication in any responsible news medium? This stuff, indeed, does provoke more of the same tripe in the comments posted.

So the Washington Post has become the great equalizer, inviting its readers to wallow in the gutter along with its prurient "journalists."

Posted by: castleb | October 28, 2010 7:37 PM | Report abuse

What has happened to journalistic principles? Since when did cheap gossip merit publication in any responsible news medium? This stuff, indeed, does provoke more of the same tripe in the comments posted.

So the Washington Post has become the great equalizer, inviting its readers to wallow in the gutter along with its prurient "journalists."

Posted by: castleb | October 28, 2010 7:37 PM | Report abuse

What a scumbag punk! Always knew it, now the sack of sh!* confirms it.

Posted by: dddvu | October 28, 2010 7:26 PM | Report abuse

What a scumbag punk! Always knew it, now the sack of sh!* confirms it.

Posted by: dddvu | October 28, 2010 7:24 PM | Report abuse

Armey's comments about 15 year old events are the kind of gossip you would expect from a neurotic, cranky, old, neighbor-not a former congressman. In Buckshot Cheney's words-"Low Class-Big Time."

Posted by: BBear1 | October 28, 2010 6:48 PM | Report abuse

what the hell is wrong with having sex?

jesus christ!

Posted by: SofaKingCool2009 | October 28, 2010 6:47 PM | Report abuse

Did they tell each other where to buy the best cigars, too?

Posted by: momof20yo | October 28, 2010 6:43 PM | Report abuse

Poor Dick, all he would have had to talk about were his favorite brands of liquor!

Posted by: lithium452 | October 28, 2010 5:52 PM | Report abuse

Where's the rest of the story? Were all Clinton's girls, let's say, heavyset?

When we were single, my old buddy always chose the heaviest girl of the two, and I loved that. Is there something psychological about people like Clinton choosing heavyset babes for their affairs?

Posted by: llrllr | October 28, 2010 5:47 PM | Report abuse

"and ex-President Bill Clinton used to ..."

It is "former president Bill Clinton.

Not "ex".

Posted by: haymarketbill | October 28, 2010 5:34 PM | Report abuse

@andrew23boyle:
Clinton was a hypocrite? that's news, the GOP members 'prosecuting' him in the House were the wildly hypocritical. He lied under oath during a political witch hunt.
.
Not quite a golden rule good Samaritan behavior, but hardly the ruthless lying for political gain of Gingrich which we now know thanks to his ex-wife.

Posted by: rpixley220 | October 28, 2010 5:15 PM | Report abuse

Who cares what an obviously narcissistic drunk like Armey claims? Not sane humans, that's for sure.

Posted by: edfunk1 | October 28, 2010 5:13 PM | Report abuse

dick..armey..should..know..mudslinging..is..a..turn-off..for..the..voter..he..should..be..talking..about..a..new..air,traffic..control..system..to..make..shure..the..usa..dominates..that..industry..it..takes..alot..of..agriculture..to..pay..for..an..airliner

Posted by: progressivegrocer | October 28, 2010 5:11 PM | Report abuse

Same old, same old.

Self serving tabloid trash from a political hack.

The only real question is how it comes to be on the WaPo web page, where there used to be standards.

Posted by: zukermand | October 28, 2010 5:09 PM | Report abuse

and..the..secret..service..had..fiddle..and..faddle..take..care..of..jack..kennedy..nothing..is..said..of..newts..new..airline..traffic..system...dick..armey..should..know..that..mudslinging..is..why..people..turn..off..to..politics..not..can..we.afford..the.new..system..or..how..long..can..it..wait

Posted by: progressivegrocer | October 28, 2010 4:49 PM | Report abuse

I'm afraid that Dick Armey has always made Newt Gingrich look good by comparison, which is quite a (negative) accomplishment. I believe Gingrich is a hypocrite. I believe Armey is a mean-spirited man with little or no empathy for anyone not in his close circle.

He has "played" this whole Tea Party moment in time. Whatever your opinion of their beliefs, if you think that most people in the movement are sincere then it is shameful that a power monger such as Armey, whose concern has never been for working people but always for the super-wealthy and powerful, has manipulated the Tea Party movement for his own gain. Regardless of ones political views, it is always sad to see this sort of thing.

Posted by: j24w | October 28, 2010 4:38 PM | Report abuse

I'm afraid that Dick Armey has always made Newt Gingrich look good by comparison, which is quite a (negative) accomplishment. I believe Gingrich is a hypocrite. I believe Armey is a mean-spirited man with little or no empathy for anyone not in his close circle.

He has "played" this whole Tea Party moment in time. Whatever your opinion of their beliefs, if you think that most people in the movement are sincere then it is shameful that a power monger such as Armey, whose concern has never been for working people but always for the super-wealthy and powerful, has manipulated the Tea Party movement for his own gain. Regardless of ones political views, it is always sad to see this sort of thing.

Posted by: j24w | October 28, 2010 4:36 PM | Report abuse

So, should we believe what one lying hypocrite says another lying hypocrite said to a third lying hypocrite?

Should we care?

Posted by: andrew23boyle | October 28, 2010 4:34 PM | Report abuse

Is it christian to be a big fat liar? Clinton is allergic to alcohol, yet he was drinking wine....?

Posted by: tcarey1325 | October 28, 2010 4:30 PM | Report abuse

mirrorgazer,

Are you sure the big ugly thing you're seeing isn't you?

Posted by: waylandadmin | October 28, 2010 4:01 PM | Report abuse

Wine and CIGARS . . . Is anyone else a little queasy....

Posted by: blipper | October 28, 2010 3:40 PM | Report abuse

Same old Bill - same old Newt. That they are still talking and being listened to shows how nonchalant our society has become about the true character of its leaders. To the thinking person, both of these men are like big, ugly, blown-up cartoons.

Posted by: mirrorgazer | October 28, 2010 3:32 PM | Report abuse

This is just a shot over the Newt bow.

Don't even think about running for POTUS -

Your "friend",
Dick Armey

Posted by: James10 | October 28, 2010 3:30 PM | Report abuse

Same old Bill - same old Newt. That they are still talking and being listened to shows how nonchalant our society has become about the true character of its leaders. To the thinking person, both of these men are like big, ugly, blown-up cartoons.

Posted by: mirrorgazer | October 28, 2010 3:30 PM | Report abuse

This is a very old load of crock from a hasben load of crock.

Posted by: mcmantis1 | October 28, 2010 3:24 PM | Report abuse

This is a very old load of crock from a hasbeen load of crock.

Posted by: mcmantis1 | October 28, 2010 3:24 PM | Report abuse

Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.

Posted by: zephyr99 | October 28, 2010 3:16 PM | Report abuse

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