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Biden: We'll be out of Afghanistan by 2014 'come hell or high water' (Sunday show roundup)

By Feliciia Sonmez and Emi Kolawole

NBC: MEET THE PRESS

Biden: We'll be out of Afghanistan by 2014 "come hell or high water"

Asked whether the United States was winning or losing in Afghanistan, Vice President Joe Biden said that "we're making progress on all fronts, more on some areas than in others." He contended that the July 2011 troop reductions will be "more than token," adding, "We are starting it in July 2011 and we are going to be totally out of there, come hell or high water, by 2014." Biden also said he believes that there are enough votes in the Senate to ratify the New START nuclear arms treaty with Russia. And he noted that he would consider WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange a criminal "if he conspired to get these classified documents."

Biden praised the Senate's passage of the tax-cut deal negotiated between President Obama and congressional Republicans, pushing back against former Massachusetts governor Mitt Romney's (R) claim last week that the deal didn't bring an end to economic uncertainty. "Had we kicked this into next year, it would have created such uncertainty," Biden said. Asked about a September interview in which he had said the administration would draw the line on the upper-income tax cuts extension, Biden responded: "We did go to the mat. ... We got to the end, we couldn't get it done and we had to make a decision." Biden did not commit either way as to whether the president would veto any bill with earmarks. "If we say we have to appropriate a levee in Mississippi" in order to retain spending to "keep my kid alive" in Iraq or Afghanistan, then Biden said he would support the president's signing of a bill with earmarks.


CNN: STATE OF THE UNION

McConnell: We'll fund the government through March

Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) said that he found working with President Obama on the bipartisan tax-cut package "just fine," noting that the deal contained many Republican-supported line-items. McConnell also said that conservative commentator Charles Krauthammer was "totally wrong" in calling Obama the new "comeback kid." On last week's battle in the Senate over the omnibus spending bill, McConnell refused to say that his party was "buckling to the tea party." "The public is sick and tired of doing business that way," he said.

McConnell also confirmed that he and Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) had agreed on a continuing resolution that would fund the government through March. McConnell would not commit to whether the New START Treaty would come up for a vote during the current lame-duck session or whether there were enough votes within the Republican caucus to advance it toward ratification. Asked where he saw another opportunity to work with the president, McConnell said he would "love to sit down with the administration" to work on entitlement reform.

FOX: FOX NEWS SUNDAY

Kyl: Obama should "send a letter to the Russians" on START

Senate Minority Whip Jon Kyl (R-Ariz.) and Senate Majority Whip Dick Durbin (D-Ill.) faced off on the remaining issues facing the lame-duck Congress. Durbin said that he believes he has the 67 votes necessary to ratify the New START Treaty. Kyl reiterated his opposition to the treaty and said that President Obama should "send a letter to the Russians," not the Senate, on the issue of missile defense. Kyl said that he remains "skeptical" about a bill that would guarantee health benefits for 9/11 first responders. Durbin said that he believed the bill would pass but acknowledged that he didn't know where the White House stood on it. On the Senate's passage of a bill repealing "don't ask, don't tell," Kyl said that the military has "one function, and that is to fight and to fight well and maybe to die. And the people who are responsible for that need to make the judgment about whether this will inhibit their ability to carry out that ultimate job that we ask them to do." Durbin countered that "each political generation has very few, but a few, opportunities to extend justice in America. That was our chance yesterday in repealing 'don't ask, don't tell.'"

Virginia Gov. Bob McDonnell (R) said that he didn't think the recent decisions of three federal judges regarding the federal health care overhaul were political. McDonnell added that he supports having the legal battle over aspects of the health care overhaul "fast-tracked to the United States Supreme Court," skipping the Fourth Circuit Court of Appeals.

ABC: THIS WEEK

Kerry: START Treaty has enough votes for ratification

Massachusetts Democratic Sen. John Kerry said that he believes the New START Treaty has enough votes for ratification in the Senate. Indiana Republican Sen. Richard Lugar said that he agreed with Kerry and believed that "several" Republicans will support the treaty, although "the problem is really getting to that final vote." Kerry said that he believes the controversy over the outing of a CIA station chief in Pakistan will not be "a major setback." Lugar said regarding Pakistan, "all we can do, we are trying very hard diplomatically, a five-year program, because it is critical. If the al-Qaida are over there and the Taliban go back and forth, things are not going to continue to work well in parts of Afghanistan without change." Kerry also said that the Senate's passage of a bill repealing the "don't ask, don't tell" law "fulfills an enormous promise of equality in our country." Lugar defended his "no" vote, saying that he remains concerned about implementation.

C-SPAN: NEWSMAKERS

Ron Paul: No guarantee I'll subpoena Bernanke

Texas Republican Rep. Ron Paul said that his appointment to the chairmanship of the Financial Services Committee's Subcommittee on Monetary Policy "gives me a better platform" on monetary issues. "That doesn't mean the first week in January I send a subpoena for [Federal Reserve chairman Ben] Bernanke," he added.

Paul maintained that in a system with a free market-based currency there would be no boom-and-bust cycle. "The Federal Reserve provides no real benefits to us long-term," he insisted. On the subject of economic crises, Paul said the government's response is "exactly like a drug addiction. ... I don't think we need regulators; we need law and order. We need people to fulfill their contracts. The market is a great regulator."

Paul said that people look for him to be "very, very critical" when it comes to assessing Bernanke and the Fed. Whether Bernanke is a better or worse manager than former Fed chairman Alan Greenspan "won't make a difference," he added. "You have to analyze the whole philosophy of the monetary system. ... This is the problem rather than Bernanke himself."

CBS: FACE THE NATION

Graham: New Congress is "going to be a test of the tea party"

South Carolina Republican Sen. Lindsey Graham said he won't vote for the New START Treaty and doesn't believe the agreement has enough votes for ratification in the Senate. "I'm not going to vote for START until I hear from the Russians that they understand we can develop four stages of missile defense, and if we do, they won't withdraw from the treaty," Graham said. Michigan Democratic Sen. Carl Levin argued that not ratifying the treaty will "damage national security." He also pushed back against the notion that there hasn't been enough debate, saying that previous treaties "have not had longer debates than the two weeks, which we've devoted to this treaty." Asked whether Pakistan is "with us or against us," Levin responded: "Yes." Minnesota Democratic Sen. Amy Klobuchar predicted that the Senate will "eventually" ratify the START Treaty.

Graham said that the 112th Congress is "going to be a test of the tea party," while Alabama Republican Sen. Jeff Sessions predicted that in the new Congress, "the House is going to submit a very lean, tight, tough budget. And the Senate is going to have a real difficult time accommodating the challenges that we face."

By Feliciia Sonmez and Emi Kolawole  | December 19, 2010; 12:34 PM ET
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"Obama said out in 2011, not his idiot VP says out in 2014...is anyone in this country foolish enough to believe either of these warmongers?" It would seem at least every Dem that post here still thinks Obama walks on water. He continues to **** in their face and tell them its rain! Stupid people need a party too that is why there will always be Democrats waiting for their hand out. Only Stupid Dems could come up with this stupid " first responders bill"? Every fireman and cop in America is a first responder! Why should the people who were injured or died on 9/11 have themselves and their families get special benefits? Take that money and send it to the people who risk their life every day the people in the military! They are the ones who need the money much more and are far more deserving. Yes the people who served us on 9/11 did many great and brave things...ask anyone of them
and they will tell you they were just doing their job.

Posted by: Loxinabox | December 21, 2010 11:03 AM | Report abuse

Look all Repubs want to do is look at the treaty to make sure Obama did not bend America over and ask Putin to put it up our back side! What is the big deal? Obama is keeping our troops in Afghanistan for four more years! So much for keeping his word on bringing the troops home. Just another in a huge line of lies by Obama! Why do your kind still trust him? He has proven he is a warmonger Obama/Cheney in 2012 two warmongers you can believe in!!!! It is amazing how you little people keep taking it the back side and asking for more!I say lets send the one hundred and eleven Democrats that voted to go to war even they know there were no WMD to jail. How long will you people let Obama P*** in your face and tell you it is raining? Lets see I trust Putin even more than I do Obama so a treaty with Russia over Nukes? What could possibly go wrong? No wonder the EU says Obama is a threat to there safety because he is to dumb to be president! I kind of like the EU most of them used to be our allies before Obama pissed them off by being a liar and playing nice with terrorist.


Posted by: Loxinabox | December 21, 2010 10:43 AM | Report abuse

Look all Repubs want to do is look at the treaty to make sure Obama did not bend America over and ask Putin to put it up our back side! What is the big deal? Obama is keeping our troops in Afghanistan for four more years! So much for keeping his word on bringing the troops home. Just another in a huge line of lies by Obama! Why do your kind still trust him? He has proven he is a warmonger Obama/Cheney in 2012 two warmongers you can believe in!!!! It is amazing how you little people keep taking it the back side and asking for more!I say lets send the one hundred and eleven Democrats that voted to go to war even they know there were no WMD to jail. How long will you people let Obama P*** in your face and tell you it is raining? Lets see I trust Putin even more than I do Obama so a treaty with Russia over Nukes? What could possibly go wrong? No wonder the EU says Obama is a threat to there safety because he is to dumb to be president! I kind of like the EU most of them used to be our allies before Obama pissed them off by being a liar and playing nice with terrorist.


Posted by: Loxinabox | December 21, 2010 10:26 AM | Report abuse

Joe Biden:

Please listen up: We will never

be out of the Middle East, in the same

manner that we are not out of Europe,

nor Japan and the rest of the Far East

where China continues to raise its ugly

head. Perhaps this could be an article

that you MIGHT be able to discuss half-

intelligently. By the way your partner,

Obama, the President that nobody knows

about, MIGHT be able to assist you,

especially because he has all the

experience One would require in working

with Communists, the likes of Bill Ayers

and Mr. Alansky in Chicago where he not

only learned the political ropes, but

also from Reverend Wright, the HATRED

OF THE UNITED STATES, ropes, which it is

evident that he is carrying today. Way

to go, Joe, in remaining with a pillar

of the American way and working with him

as a role model. Good show.

Posted by: dennishabern1 | December 20, 2010 10:09 AM | Report abuse

Just between myself and the American

people, wouldn't we like, just for once,

to be privy concerning what was discussed,

and by whom, attempting to construct a

New Start Treaty with the Russians? It

has come to my attention that many

Repubican's will not vote for it because

in its current form, the Russians are

informing we Americans, that our

inspectors will not be permitted to

enter certain areas. Has the American

government made the same manifestations,

or are the Russians pushing the envelope

to see what ELSE they can obtain, because

they know that we are easy prey and are

easily persuaded to conform. That is the

American way, especially under the helm of

Osama Obama, if everyone follows? No

country ever, and I mean ever obtained

what they wanted, by playing the subdued

advocate. It is time to show the North

Koreans and the Iranians, that the free

world in the West, will not tolerate

anymore of either's childish tantrums.

This is the American diplomacy that I

grew up with. Many people do not care

for George W. Bush, Jr., but in one of his

terms, he had the character to publicly

inform the world, whom the "AXIS OF EVIL"

were, and today, they still carry this

same description. Sometimes, things

never change.

Posted by: dennishabern1 | December 20, 2010 9:47 AM | Report abuse

Biden and the rest of our congressmen,

have no idea of when enough is enough,

and that is why the war in the Middle

East has been in progress for almost 10

years. The only way to terminate this

war, is to resolve it in the very some

manner that we ended the war in the

Pacific during World War Two, otherwise,

the Muslim and the North Korean threat

will always hold the West hostage. The

West has attempted diplomacy and sanctions

but these entities have not produced

the desire results, therefore, Mr. & Mrs.

America, how would the masses resolve this

problem? Personally, I am getting tired

of being held hostage by a conditioned

Communist in North Korea, and being

aggitated by a confirmed terrorist

leader in Iran. Therefore, where does

the West and any free population, draw

the line in the sand, before it is too

late?

Posted by: dennishabern1 | December 20, 2010 9:14 AM | Report abuse

Biden and the rest of our congressmen,

have no idea of when enough is enough,

and that is why the war in the Middle

East has been in progress for almost 10

years. The only way to terminate this

war, is to terminate it in the very some

manner that we ended the war in the

Pacific during World War Two, otherwise,

the Muslim and the North Korean threat

will always hold the West hostage. The

West has attempted diplomacy and sanctions

but these entities have not produced

the desire results, therefore, Mr. & Mrs.

America, how would the masses resolve this

problem? Personally, I am getting tired

of being held hostage by a conditioned

Communist in North Korea, and being

aggitated by a confirmed terrorist

leader in Iran. Therefore, where does

the West and any free population, draw

the line in the sand, before it is too

late?

Posted by: dennishabern1 | December 20, 2010 9:13 AM | Report abuse

Biden and the rest of our congressmen,

have no idea of when enough is enough,

and that is why the war in the Middle

East has been in progress for almost 10

years. The only way to terminate this

war, is to terminate it in the very some

manner that we ended the war in the

Pacific during World War Two, otherwise,

the Muslim and the North Korean threat

will always hold the West hostage. The

West has attempted diplomacy and sanctions

but these entities have not produced

the desire results, therefore, Mr. & Mrs.

America, how would the masses resolve this

problem? Personally, I am getting tired

of being held hostage by a conditioned

Communist in North Korea, and being

aggitated by a confirmed terrorist

leader in Iran. Therefore, where does

the West and any free population, draw

the line in the sand, before it is too

late?

Posted by: dennishabern1 | December 20, 2010 9:12 AM | Report abuse

Biden and the rest of our congressmen,

have no idea of when enough is enough,

and that is why the war in the Middle

East has been in progress for almost 10

years. The only way to terminate this

war, is to terminate it in the very some

manner that we ended the war in the

Pacific during World War Two, otherwise,

the Muslim and the North Korean threat

will always hold the West hostage. The

West has attempted diplomacy and sanctions

but these entities have not produced

the desire results, therefore, Mr. & Mrs.

America, how would the masses resolve this

problem? Personally, I am getting tired

of being held hostage by a conditioned

Communist in North Korea, and being

aggitated by a confirmed terrorist

leader in Iran. Therefore, where does

the West and any free population, draw

the line in the sand, before it is too

late?

Posted by: dennishabern1 | December 20, 2010 9:11 AM | Report abuse

Biden and the rest of our congressmen,

have no idea of when enough is enough,

and that is why the war in the Middle

East has been in progress for almost 10

years. The only way to terminate this

war, is to terminate it in the very some

manner that we ended the war in the

Pacific during World War Two, otherwise,

the Muslim and the North Korean threat

will always hold the West hostage. The

West has attempted diplomacy and sanctions

but these entities have not produced

the desire results, therefore, Mr. & Mrs.

America, how would the masses resolve this

problem? Personally, I am getting tired

of being held hostage by a conditioned

Communist in North Korea, and being

aggitated by a confirmed terrorist

leader in Iran. Therefore, where does

the West and any free population, draw

the line in the sand, before it is too

late?

Posted by: dennishabern1 | December 20, 2010 9:09 AM | Report abuse

Biden and the rest of our congressmen,

have no idea of when enough is enough,

and that is why the war in the Middle

East has been in progress for almost 10

years. The only way to terminate this

war, is to terminate it in the very some

manner that we ended the war in the

Pacific during World War Two, otherwise,

the Muslim and the North Korean threat

will always hold the West hostage. The

West has attempted diplomacy and sanctions

but these entities have not produced

the desire results, therefore, Mr. & Mrs.

America, how would the masses resolve this

problem? Personally, I am getting tired

of being held hostage by a conditioned

Communist in North Korea, and being

aggitated by a confirmed terrorist

leader in Iran. Therefore, where does

the West and any free population, draw

the line in the sand, before it is too

late?

Posted by: dennishabern1 | December 20, 2010 9:09 AM | Report abuse

Biden and the rest of our congressmen,

have no idea of when enough is enough,

and that is why the war in the Middle

East has been in progress for almost 10

years. The only way to terminate this

war, is to terminate it in the very some

manner that we ended the war in the

Pacific during World War Two, otherwise,

the Muslim and the North Korean threat

will always hold the West hostage. The

West has attempted diplomacy and sanctions

but these entities have not produced

the desire results, therefore, Mr. & Mrs.

America, how would the masses resolve this

problem? Personally, I am getting tired

of being held hostage by a conditioned

Communist in North Korea, and being

aggitated by a confirmed terrorist

leader in Iran. Therefore, where does

the West and any free population, draw

the line in the sand, before it it is too

late?

Posted by: dennishabern1 | December 20, 2010 9:08 AM | Report abuse

Amazing isn't it first 2011 and now 2014??? Does anyone trust these officials and what are we doing there anyway excepting wastin young americans lives and wasting money in a country known for decades for its corruption

Posted by: ren51 | December 20, 2010 7:01 AM | Report abuse

What a brilliant strategist.

Posted by: andrew23boyle | December 20, 2010 4:25 AM | Report abuse

I have read somewhere on the news that something like "Wise Health Insurance" is offering lowest health insurance rate for low and middle income families so search online and find them.

Posted by: stacyejones | December 20, 2010 1:07 AM | Report abuse


People should never forget that real health depends how well you take care of yourself and not what health insurance you carry but I agree health insurance is important for every one. Search "Wise Health Insurance" online for dollar a day insurance plans.

Posted by: stacyejones | December 20, 2010 1:04 AM | Report abuse


The first new rule says you HAVE to have insurance. Both my husband and I have pre-existing conditions, and although the new bill says we can't be denied coverage because of it. So far, the cheapest health insurance we've been able to find is called "Wise Health Insurance" search for it online if you are pre-existing conditions.

Posted by: stacyejones | December 20, 2010 1:02 AM | Report abuse

Obama said out in 2011, not his idiot VP says out in 2014...is anyone in this country foolish enough to believe either of these warmongers?

Posted by: JCM-51 | December 19, 2010 9:47 PM | Report abuse

Once again Biden's mouth misfires! This irresponsible statement gives aid and encouragement to the enemy! Out wait us and you win! Thanks Biden, you traitor!
Correction: Idiot Traitor!

Posted by: TexRancher | December 19, 2010 6:38 PM | Report abuse

Some total, of all the Sunday issues,are mere confusion and Myth.It is like describing an Elephant,blind-folded.Every one recognise,Biden belongs in a Circus.New Congress should come back to make the critical decisions. DADT is enough to digest, always take Maalox and the Blue Pill.Putin is not ready to thro'the Towel,Obama,still has a bigger national problem-Jobless

Posted by: jayrkay | December 19, 2010 4:53 PM | Report abuse

Some total, of all the Sunday issues,are mere confusion and Myth.It is like describing an Elephant,blind-folded.Every one recognise,Biden belongs in a Circus.New Congress should come back to make the critical decisions. DADT is enough to digest, always take Maalox and the Blue Pill.Putin is not ready to thro'the Towel,Obama,still has a bigger national problem-Jobless

Posted by: jayrkay | December 19, 2010 4:52 PM | Report abuse

Some total, of all the Sunday issues,are mere confusion and Myth.It is like describing an Elephant,blind-folded.Every one recognise,Biden belongs in a Circus.New Congress should come back to make the critical decisions. DADT is enough to digest, always take Maalox and the Blue Pill.Putin is not ready to thro'the Towel,Obama,still has a bigger national problem-Jobless

Posted by: jayrkay | December 19, 2010 4:51 PM | Report abuse

So the Senate rejects START. The Russians take it as evidence that we still wish to dominate them, which means they need other countries on their side to erode our position. Good-bye to Russian support for sanctions against Iran, say hello to the Iranian bomb.

For which, of course, the opponents of START will deny any responsibility.

Posted by: j3hess | December 19, 2010 4:24 PM | Report abuse

So the Senate rejects START. The Russians take it as evidence that we still wish to dominate them, which means they need other countries on their side to erode our position. Good-bye to Russian support for sanctions against Iran, say hello to the Iranian bomb.

For which, of course, the opponents of START will deny any responsibility.

Posted by: j3hess | December 19, 2010 4:20 PM | Report abuse

Can someone explaain why Obama picked loser Biden to be his Veep?

Joe is wrong almost 100% of the time. And frankly, his contribution to American politics has been irrelevant for decades.

Believe it or not, James Danforth "Dan" Quayle, the 44th VEEP is smarter and more politically intuitive than Babbling Biden.

Posted by: Hazmat77 | December 19, 2010 3:12 PM | Report abuse

Republican Sen. Lindsey Graham said he won't vote for the New START Treaty ... "I'm not going to vote for START until I hear from the Russians that they understand we can develop four stages of missile defense, and if we do, they won't withdraw from the treaty,"

Is Graham stupid!
Why would the Russians agree to terms which allows the U.S. to develop a missile defense program. Graham! the idea is to deescalate ... Oh yeah it's a welfare program for the U.S. military industrial complex.

Posted by: knjincvc | December 19, 2010 2:45 PM | Report abuse

Republican Sen. Lindsey Graham said he won't vote for the New START Treaty ... "I'm not going to vote for START until I hear from the Russians that they understand we can develop four stages of missile defense, and if we do, they won't withdraw from the treaty,"

Is Graham stupid!
Why would the Russians agree to terms which allows the U.S. to develop a missile defense program. Graham! the idea is to deescalate ... Oh yeah it's a welfare program for the U.S. military industrial complex.

Posted by: knjincvc | December 19, 2010 2:42 PM | Report abuse

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