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Posted at 5:15 PM ET, 12/ 2/2010

House passes bill to extend Bush-era tax cuts to middle class

By Felicia Sonmez

Updated: 5:15 p.m.

The House on Thursday passed a bill that would extend the Bush-era tax cuts only to the middle class, a mostly symbolic measure that nonetheless allows Democrats to draw a contrast with Republicans on the issue.

The bill passed by a 234-to-188 vote, with 20 Democrats bucking their party to oppose the measure and three Republicans voting in favor. The proposal would extend the Bush-era tax cuts only to individuals earning $200,000 or less per year and families earning $250,000 or less.

Democrats had pushed it to a vote this week in an effort to make the case that Republicans are holding an extension of the middle-class tax cuts hostage to an extension of cuts for higher earners. Republicans have slammed Democrats for the move, accusing them of undermining bipartisan negotiations this week on reaching a compromise on the tax cuts.

Earlier Thursday, House Speaker-designate John Boehner (R-Ohio) called the vote "chicken crap."

The bill stands little chance of passing in the Senate, where Republican leaders have vowed a filibuster.

"Regardless of what the majority forces House Republicans to do, it's not going to go anywhere," Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) told reporters Wednesday night. "We are going to extend the current tax rates; we're not going to raise taxes on anybody. The only thing we're discussing now is just how long that extension will be."

The White House praised the vote Thursday afternoon but cautioned that negotiations on the tax cuts are ongoing.

"The President continues to believe that extending middle class tax cuts is the most important thing we can do for our economy right now and he applauds the House for passing a permanent extension," White House Press Secretary Robert Gibbs said in a statement, adding that "any reports that we are near a deal in the tax cuts negotiations are inaccurate and premature."

Earlier Thursday, 33 Democrats defied their party leadership by voting against the rule governing debate on the tax-cut bill because they wanted to vote on an extension of the cuts for all income levels, not just the middle class.

The test vote narrowly passed by 213 to 203, but the number of Democrats bucking their party was significant; among those voting against the measure were 21 members of the conservative Blue Dog Coalition.

Four of the Democrats who voted against the earlier test vote -- Reps. Gerry Connolly (Va.), Gary Peters (Mich.), Jim Himes (Conn.) and Jason Altmire (Penn.) -- wrote a letter to Pelosi urging a bipartisan solution to the tax cuts issue.

In the letter, the four advocated for a one-year extension of the tax cuts for all income levels and a permanent extension for middle-class earners.

"While those in the highest income brackets comprise only two to three percent of American taxpayers, economists estimate that they are responsible for 25 percent of national consumer spending," the four congressmen wrote. "As retailers and other businesses continue preparations for the holiday season, and employers make seasonal staffing decisions and consider possible raises and holiday bonuses for their employees, now is the time for action."

By Felicia Sonmez  | December 2, 2010; 5:15 PM ET
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"BOEHNER to OBAMA, there are consequences to a SHELLACKING"
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So, since the CONs picked up enough seats in the House to be a pain(entirely predictable, in a Mid-term following a financial crisis), just what ARE these "consequences"?
More of the same garbage that caused the crisis?
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"NO TAX INCREASES ON THE PRODUCERS..."
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The only thing (besides their morning dump)these "producers" produce, is yet another scam to bilk the middle-class, and yet another way to steal from the Treasury.
They have been the primary benefactors of the Stimulus. The purpose was to create jobs, which your "producers" have not. They have used most of the money to steal Middle-Class resources at 10 cents on the dollar.
They are the primary cause of all the spending, and you believe they shouldn't pay back their theft?
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"4 years of a Democrat congress and 2 years of Obama with a super majority has spent us into oblivion and hasn't stimulated a flea..."
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Yet another reason to believe the "producers" need to pay back part of the Stimulus.

Following the "Trickle on the Workers" Ray-gun-omics theory, those in the upper 1% have seen their incomes triple, while the WORKERS, the ACTUAL "producers", have seen their real incomes decline.

Republican economic theory is simply a book on how to rip-off the workers by stealing their resources, and lowering their wages.

Obviously, it works. YES, scams work.
These Bush-league tax cuts, while starting 2 wars, and the criminal (deregulation) scams are the cause of the economic melt-down.

The only think the last election proved was that the American voter is fickle and extremely dense about actual actions / consequences.

When the average American voter can name all the contestants on American Idol, but couldn't guess the meaning of GDP...
is the last election a mandate for more thieving and corruption? Hardly.

Posted by: JohnInMI | December 3, 2010 12:31 PM | Report abuse

BOEHNER to OBAMA, there are consequences to a SHELLACKING

NO TAX INCREASES ON THE PRODUCERS...

4 years of a Democrat congress and 2 years of Obama with a super majority has spent us into oblivion and hasn't stimulated a flea...

Stay tuned for SHELLACKING PART 2, 2012

Posted by: jblast2000 | December 3, 2010 8:55 AM | Report abuse

OBAMA TO BOEHNER - there will be no more compromise on tax cuts.On this issue, the parties are too far apart for any compromise to occur.This is about as newsworthy an item as what is Sarah's latest faux pas!

Posted by: jsasnooky | December 3, 2010 7:18 AM | Report abuse

OBAMA TO BOEHNER - there will be no more compromise on tax cuts.On this issue, the parties are too far apart for any compromise to occur.This is about as newsworthy an item as what is Sarah's latest faux pas!

Posted by: jsasnooky | December 3, 2010 7:17 AM | Report abuse

You guys should stop complaining because, one the health care we have now isnt as good as it was supposed to be. also the law has just been signed so give it some time. so if u want to say u have the right to choose tell that to ur congress men or state official. If you do not have insurance and need one You can find full medical coverage at the lowest price check http://ow.ly/3akSX .If you have health insurance and do not care about cost just be happy about it and trust me you are not going to loose anything!


Posted by: estellalees | December 3, 2010 2:52 AM | Report abuse

When clinton left office before the Bush tax cuts there was no deficit. 'Nuf said.

Posted by: seaduck2001 | December 2, 2010 11:16 PM | Report abuse

When clinton left office before the Bush tax cuts there was no deficit. 'Nuf said.

Posted by: seaduck2001 | December 2, 2010 11:16 PM | Report abuse

Pre-George Bush tax cuts when Clinton left office we were in the black. 'Nuf said.

Posted by: seaduck2001 | December 2, 2010 11:13 PM | Report abuse

It's funny how we NOW hear how the Bush tax cuts befitted the middle class! For 8 years all we heard from the Democrats and their obedient media friends was the Bush tax cuts were "tax-cuts for the Rich".

Looks like it took all these years to finally learn truth! The tax cuts should be extended for everyone and the Democrats should stop playing class warfare and start focusing on our country rather than deceptive politics.

Posted by: targa47 | December 2, 2010 11:13 PM | Report abuse

I am a life long Republican but I am always ashamed of my party when it comes to fairness in tax issues. Amazing that Republicans opted to block equitable tax cuts for the bottom tax bracket of tax payers. I am always ashamed of Republicans when they ignore the Scriptural admonition that we are our brother's keepers all the while beating their chests claiming how Godly they are. When they meet their maker, those Republicans who fail to see after the poor will be caught in a very embarrassing situation and it will not be pretty. No Christian can act this way and meet the scriptural requirements for Godliness.

Posted by: mJJ2 | December 2, 2010 9:50 PM | Report abuse

In cash terms, 90% of the Bush tax cuts went to 1% of the population, the top richest 1%. The Republicans are interested in balancing the budget if it hurts the poor and middle class. But they want no balanced budget if it hurts that top 1%.

Posted by: rash67 | December 2, 2010 9:30 PM

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Isn't it rather convenient that when talking about the tax cuts, liberals complain that in pure amounts of dollars of tax savings, the rich got the most benefit, regardless of the % values lowered for everyone, but then when they argue that rich people need to pay their fair share, liberals revert to saying their percentage isn't high enough regardless of the fact that in pure amounts of dollars they pay a incredibly larger sum of money.

Posted by: kanebrandon | December 2, 2010 9:41 PM | Report abuse

twm1, your comment is absurd and makes no sense whatsover.

Posted by: gboysen | December 2, 2010 9:40 PM | Report abuse

twm1, your comment is absurd and makes no sense whatsover.

Posted by: gboysen | December 2, 2010 9:40 PM | Report abuse

I'm so proud of our Democrats for standing up to the corporate bought-&-paid for shilling bullies today.
If our taxes go up after the first of the year, that's okay with me because I believe that supporting our government in a time of war is a very, very good cause.
But, I don't believe in weakening our government any further by borrowing from the Chinese to pay an extra monumental set of sums to the top 1 percent of our country, who don't need it and some of whom have said they don't want it.
Besides, the very wealthy have the capacity to hire a fleet of tax lawyers and accountants who will see to it that they don't have to pay most of the taxes they should be paying anyway.
What, I would ask them, would you give to keep our country strong?
Or would you?
A military retiree's wife.

Posted by: Judy-in-TX | December 2, 2010 9:32 PM | Report abuse

In cash terms, 90% of the Bush tax cuts went to 1% of the population, the top richest 1%. The Republicans are interested in balancing the budget if it hurts the poor and middle class. But they want no balanced budget if it hurts that top 1%.

Posted by: rash67 | December 2, 2010 9:32 PM | Report abuse

I'm so proud of our Democrats for standing up to the corporate bought-&-paid for shilling bullies today.
If our taxes go up after the first of the year, that's okay with me because I believe that supporting our government in a time of war is a very, very good cause.
But, I don't believe in weakening our government any further by borrowing from the Chinese to pay an extra monumental set of sums to the top 1 percent of our country, who don't need it and some of whom have said they don't want it.
Besides, the very wealthy have the capacity to hire a fleet of tax lawyers and accountants who will see to it that they don't have to pay most of the taxes they should be paying anyway.
What, I would ask them, would you give to keep our country strong?
Or would you?
A military retiree's wife.

Posted by: Judy-in-TX | December 2, 2010 9:31 PM | Report abuse

In cash terms, 90% of the Bush tax cuts went to 1% of the population, the top richest 1%. The Republicans are interested in balancing the budget if it hurts the poor and middle class. But they want no balanced budget if it hurts that top 1%.

Posted by: rash67 | December 2, 2010 9:30 PM | Report abuse

In cash terms, 90% of the Bush tax cuts went to 1% of the population, the top richest 1%. The Republicans are interested in balancing the budget if it hurts the poor and middle class. But they want no balanced budget if it hurts that top 1%.

Posted by: rash67 | December 2, 2010 9:30 PM | Report abuse

I'm so proud of our Democrats for standing up to the corporate bought-&-paid for shilling bullies today.
If our taxes go up after the first of the year, that's okay with me because I believe that supporting our government in a time of war is a very, very good cause.
But, I don't believe in weakening our government any further by borrowing from the Chinese to pay an extra monumental set of sums to the top 1 percent of our country, who don't need it and some of whom have said they don't want it.
Besides, the very wealthy have the capacity to hire a fleet of tax lawyers and accountants who will see to it that they don't have to pay most of the taxes they should be paying anyway.
What, I would ask them, would you give to keep our country strong?
Or would you?
A military retiree's wife.

Posted by: Judy-in-TX | December 2, 2010 9:30 PM | Report abuse

My family is smack in the middle of the "middle class" by the definition used in this bill. Sure, I can use a tax break if they're giving one out to everybody, but it won't really break me if they don't either. Why's that? Because I choose to live well within my means which, unfortunately, many people don't. With that said, I say let the tax breaks for everybody expire.

Posted by: JoStalin | December 2, 2010 9:30 PM | Report abuse

These moronic republicans seem to think tax cuts create jobs. They have these same tax cuts RIGHT NOW! Where are the jobs? If we extend tax cuts to the extreme wealthy and the unemployment rates remains unchanged the repugs will claim they need more tax cuts or they will somehow blame the democrats for something. Why are there so many idiots out there making $22,000 a year and less that keep voting republican??

Posted by: blarsen1 | December 2, 2010 9:18 PM | Report abuse

to sarah bb, quit your whining..you must be on welfare. get your facts straight. the repubs want no increase for anyone, dont you get it? that is what they said they would do and that is what they are fighting for. hush it and get out of their way.

Posted by: gboysen | December 2, 2010 9:13 PM | Report abuse

Republicans did not want this vote because they want to disguise their policy from the public. What the Republicans did was vote against a tax cut for everybody because it didn't include an extra bonus tax cut on income over 1/4 million.

Posted by: twm1 | December 2, 2010 9:12 PM | Report abuse

What? there were actually tax cuts for the middle class under Bush? You mean Obama/Democrats and the leftist media of collusion are all lying sacks of crap yet again...

Posted by: jblast2000 | December 2, 2010 9:10 PM | Report abuse

TO Bob and anyone else who is considered "wealthy"... my husband had a great year in 2008 with his business..we paid in over 400K in tases. talk about absurd. no one should get a tax increase now. and if you morons could figure this out, these are not tax cuts..they are simply allowing the same tax rates to prevail. you middle class whiners need to man up and get a job regardless if you like it or not and quit expecting everyone who makes good money to bail you out. I am sick of so many ignorant libs calling the repubs lovers of the rich. why dont you all start with the pres. and michelle and all of their millions..then move on to pelosi and the tax cheats running the country. the repubs were voted in to make some changes that are just and right. so get over it!

Posted by: gboysen | December 2, 2010 9:10 PM | Report abuse

Felicia Sonmez is so blind to her Republican leanings that she can write this article assuming everyone reading this agrees with her. It seemed like the whole thing was a fraud except for the noble Republicans opposing continuing this tax break for all Americans. No one worth quoting was apparently for this bill.

Here few examples:

* "a mostly symbolic measure"

* "20 Democrats bucking their party to oppose the measure "

* "The proposal would extend the Bush-era tax cuts only to individuals earning $200,000 or less per year and families earning $250,000 or less."

(actually it covers everyone up to 200/250K)

*"Republicans have slammed Democrats for the move, accusing them of undermining bipartisan negotiations this week on reaching a compromise on the tax"

* "John Boehner (R-Ohio) called the vote "chicken crap.""

* "Earlier Thursday, 33 Democrats defied their party leadership by voting against the rule governing debate on the tax-cut bill because they wanted to vote on an extension of the cuts for all income levels, not just the middle class."

Posted by: FoundingMother | December 2, 2010 9:09 PM | Report abuse

I am not voting for Connolly in the next election.

Posted by: kwirk | December 2, 2010 9:08 PM | Report abuse

It was reported tonight that singles and couples earning between 250-500K/year would pay an additional $700-$1200 dollars in taxes. If someone is living that close to the edge that such a paltry amount would be an undue hardship, you really need to get a grip or at least take control of your financial life.

Posted by: slim21 | December 2, 2010 9:02 PM | Report abuse

Just pause to think about what could have been done with all the money that the USG flushed down the toilet known as Afghanistan-

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/dec/02/wikileaks-elite-afghans-millions-cash

Posted by: onemoreexpat | December 2, 2010 9:00 PM | Report abuse

Hey Washington Post! Why don't you get your headline right! I'll correct you...


DEFEATED Democrats pass the kind of bill that got them DEFEATED!


The American people have rejected Nancy Pelosi and her disgusting agenda! And her power is symbolic ONLY and ONLY for another Month and a half!

Posted by: FormerDemocrat | December 2, 2010 8:58 PM | Report abuse

Dead on arrival in the Senate....it will not become law...the House dem libs KNEW that before the vote, yet they wasted their precious little time in the lame duck session to play politics instead of making progress on important issues. 2012 will complete the "reset" started in 2010...bye bye dem libs...you're gone gone goodbye!

Posted by: powerange | December 2, 2010 8:50 PM | Report abuse

Since Madam "I Don't Listen to the People" Speaker of the House, does not stop even when the people has voted, I hope the bill is finished in the Senate. Republicans should hold their ground and not give in an inch, Democrats are doing so. They talk about bipartisanship, and meeting at the White House and then turn around and do whatever they want. At least Republicans should listen to the people.

Posted by: hdl549 | December 2, 2010 8:36 PM | Report abuse

House passes bill to extend Bush-era tax cuts to middle class

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It's about Time!

Posted by: lcarter0311 | December 2, 2010 8:35 PM | Report abuse

Chicken crap? You Republicans pull 4 years of chicken crap stunts to enrich your cronies, bankrupt this country, and 8 years of chicken crap wars and government spending and then refuse to help middle class families who through NO fault of their own are layed off, houses foreclosed on, and fired from jobs and this is somehow CHICKEN CRAP? Where are all those high and mighty family values when you refuse to give a hand up to your brother? At this point I want the Dems to eliminate all tax cuts for everyone...eliminate all tax breaks to all corporations shipping jobs overseas, eliminate all unnecessary military operations in places like England, Japan, eliminate all Congressional perks, and mostly I WANT THE RETHUGLICANS TO BE MADE TO ACTUALLY FILIBUSTER INSTEAD OF THEIR CHICKEN CRAP THREATS OF DOING SO. BRING IT, JERKS.

Posted by: jacquie1 | December 2, 2010 8:33 PM | Report abuse

Per dailykos.com

"There are 238,781 households in John Boehner's district. There are 2,824 of them with an income above $200,000. That's 1.1 percent. And that 1.1 percent is too large, as many of those people make between $200,000 and $250,000, and so every dollar of their income will be eligible for the tax cuts the Democrats are pushing."

Why would "chicken crap" man Boehner go all out to support 1.1% of his constituents. And why would 98.9% of his constitutents vote for him to represent the interest of the 1%? SMH.

Posted by: cile92 | December 2, 2010 8:32 PM | Report abuse

I can understand why you make so little. You are as dumb as a stump, and deserve your poverty.
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And you are nothing but a POS liberal elitist. What did the man post that clued you in to ignorance? The only ignorance I have read is your response you puke!

Posted by: steelers01 | December 2, 2010 8:27 PM | Report abuse

Well this is an easy solution:

Agree to pay the extra 4.6% income tax to appease the population of wealth envy and then give 7% less or so (to make up for would be deductions) to charity and have around the same amount of money! It's win win! Well except for the charity organizations who function infinitely more efficiently than the government, but oh well, such is life.

Posted by: kanebrandon | December 2, 2010 8:14 PM | Report abuse

Some fool posted:
"Most posters on this board couldn't come up with $250K if their lives depended on it. These are the last people you want determining economic policy.
Never take financial advice from someone who doesn't have any money."
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I have a lot more than that. I know you are economically illiterate and not worth very much to boot (unless you inherited money), because I know that anyone who "takes financial advice" from ANYONE is a simpleminded sucker waiting to be fleeced.

Posted by: jos587 | December 2, 2010 8:01 PM | Report abuse

This country is finished.
It is now the equivalent of some Latin banana republics in terms of its inequality of earnings and wealth, thanks in large part to its regressive system of taxation. (Yes, it is regressive if you consider ALL taxes, not just the federal income tax.)
But I got mine, and the sucker tea-baggers will be the first to suffer.

Posted by: jos587 | December 2, 2010 7:57 PM | Report abuse

Most posters on this board couldn't come up with $250K if their lives depended on it. These are the last people you want determining economic policy.

Never take financial advice from someone who doesn't have any money.

Posted by: ADNova | December 2, 2010 7:56 PM | Report abuse

"Chicken crap? No, what's chicken crap is that people making $200,000/year ever got these tax breaks in the first place. And by the way, I am one of those persons, so don't tell me that restoring the tax rates to where they were pre-Bush II is some big hardship. Nobody in this income bracket is going to experience ANY hardship if these Bush-era tax breaks aren't extended. How selfish have we become?? We're talking about what, 39.6% instead of 35%? Now THAT'S chicken crap!"

Posted by: Bob22003 | December 2, 2010 6:40 PM

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Thank you for your forthrightness.

Posted by: veerle1 | December 2, 2010 7:54 PM | Report abuse

Most posters on this board couldn't come up with $250K if their lives depended on it. These are the last people you want determining economic policy.

Never take financial advice from someone who doesn't have any money.

Posted by: ADNova | December 2, 2010 7:53 PM | Report abuse

So looking forward to Democrats banding together in the House and blocking GOP bills. Well, with the exception of DINO Blue Dogs.

Posted by: cile92 | December 2, 2010 7:51 PM | Report abuse

I am sure the WP editorial board wants this to just be "symbolic" and made sure the headline said that. After all, the chickenhawk neocons who run the paper don't have enough guts to admit they want their tax break.
As long as they don't pay much in taxes and the US pees away its money and blood on continual wars, the WP will be happy.

Posted by: jos587 | December 2, 2010 7:51 PM | Report abuse

I'm not sure the lying GOP / T Party lapdogs understand what they're getting themselves into...

Do you suppose, for example, they understand they're going to have to live inside 30-foot walls (never mind 'gated communities') with barbed wire and electrified fencing and guards (a militia, really) with machine guns to keep out the hundreds of thousand of survivors of their unrelenting war against the middle class ?

I don't think they are thinking this thing through.


Posted by: StevenK3 | December 2, 2010 7:50 PM | Report abuse

Another fool wrote:
"So what the Democrats are saying to all Americans is this: The "American Dream" is no longer alive! Americans should no longer dream big. Americans should no longer work as hard as they can, achieve as much as they can, because it doesn't mean anything anymore. The Democrats are saying that making as much money as you can is no longer the American Way, because the Democrats will do everything they can to tax you to death. This is nothing but class warfare! The Democrats are too stupid to understand that the so-called RICH PEOPLE are the movers and shakers of this country. Look at the names in history who haved contributed to the wealth of this nation! Democrats don't want that! They want people on welfare and food stamps. Democrats should all tried for treason! Democrats are anti-American! Anyone who votes for a Democrat is too lazy to work!"
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Keep dreaming, sucker. You are obviously too dumb to ever succeed at anything, but maybe Massa will give you the crumbs from his table.

Posted by: jos587 | December 2, 2010 7:45 PM | Report abuse

Some fool wrote:
"I live on a fixed income of $24,000.00 per year. What is disgusting about this latest vote is that the Democraps are using class warfare to keep their hands in our pockets. What is needed is an across the board tax cut for everyone, with corresponding cuts in spending."
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I can understand why you make so little. You are as dumb as a stump, and deserve your poverty.

Posted by: jos587 | December 2, 2010 7:42 PM | Report abuse

As Firedoglake Jane said on Cable yesterday; "..the time for theatrical politics is over -real people are going hungry in the worst crisis since the depressson are about to lose their unempolyment while Obama give tax breaks to the weealth-est 2% -who do not need it and woud bring in $700 billion "-NO,let's cut federal employess their 1/4 % increase-in the worst debt to kill S.S./ Medicare and "For the love of god -will this president show some leadership!!!!"

Posted by: crrobin | December 2, 2010 7:39 PM | Report abuse

The Republicans blackmail the Democrats to get tax cuts for the rich, because they need a new car or have investments to make in China or India. I guess thats creating a job, just not in the USA. Before giving in, the tax cuts(actually borrowed money from China-the US is broke),should expire for everyone. Just the way Bush had to write them to get them through congress, using reconciliation. The 2003 break won 51-50 with Cheney casting the winning vote.

Unemployment benefits and tax breaks for the middle class are immediately injected into the economy and are a good stimulas. Tax breaks for the rich don't even stay in the country.

Posted by: notabeliever | December 2, 2010 7:39 PM | Report abuse

The White House is caving in to GOP / T Party demands to extend tax breaks for the wealthiest of the wealthy, half of whom say they don't even want them...

The backlash will be even worse than the actual damage done, which is horrendous.


Get ready for "President Palin" ...

Posted by: StevenK3 | December 2, 2010 7:36 PM | Report abuse

For those who still want to tell us that the wealth of the rich 1% deserves to be protected, just look at the Dow Jones index versus the unemployment rate. It's a lot easier to make money with money than to make money any other way that does not involve in breaking the law. Without some form of manual distribution of wealth, the economic model guarantees that the rich will get richer and the middle class will become folklore.

Posted by: KT11 | December 2, 2010 7:29 PM | Report abuse

the rich keep sticking it to the poor

always have always will

Posted by: Ciap | December 2, 2010 7:28 PM | Report abuse

The Leader of the Senate can force a floor vote.

But only if he stops being such a wuss.

Posted by: WillSeattle | December 2, 2010 7:22 PM | Report abuse

An easy choice

just FIRE all govt employees

making over $100,000

see–makes as much sense as increasing taxes on those making more than $250,000

who are in the productive private sector

FIRE all bloated govt “workers” making over $100,000

Posted by: ProCounsel | December 2, 2010 7:12 PM
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you are equating a removal of a tax break on people making 250,000+ to firing a person from their job altogether? in what world do those things equate?

besides, government workers have had their pay frozen. so they have already had their turn in the "belt tightening" process that always happens after we let too much deregulation ruin our economy. now it's our turn. I for one am willing to forgo a little scratch to help my country balance the budget.

Posted by: ProfessorWrightBSU | December 2, 2010 7:21 PM | Report abuse

What a disappointment to Democrats Obama has turned out to be.

Now that it seems he does NOT know how to play political hardball, I get the feeling that he has gone through his entire life without ever having to stand up to a bully.

Now I wish I had voted for Hillary when I had the chance.

Posted by: JamesCaroll | December 2, 2010 7:21 PM | Report abuse

An easy choice

just FIRE all govt employees

making over $100,000

see–makes as much sense as increasing taxes on those making more than $250,000

who are in the productive private sector

FIRE all bloated govt “workers” making over $100,000

Posted by: ProCounsel | December 2, 2010 7:12 PM | Report abuse

An easy choice

just FIRE all govt employees

making over $100,000

see–makes as much sense as increasing taxes on those making more than $250,000

who are in the productive private sector

FIRE all bloated govt “workers” making over $100,000

Posted by: ProCounsel | December 2, 2010 7:10 PM | Report abuse

We have the newbie Republican moderator on again tonight, who must be angry he had to work! All day long, my posts get printed until this little guy comes on.

Posted by: Maerzie | December 2, 2010 7:09 PM | Report abuse


Five years ago I began to believe that the GOP was horribly misguided, generally, about pretty much everything.

Now, I'm convinced they are downright delusional.

Posted by: StevenK3 | December 2, 2010 7:08 PM | Report abuse

An easy choice

just FIRE all govt employees

making over $100,000

see–makes as much sense as increasing taxes on those making more than $250,000

who are in the productive private sector

FIRE all bloated govt “workers” making over $100,000

Posted by: ProCounsel | December 2, 2010 7:06 PM | Report abuse

Chicken crap? Well, John, you ought to know.

Posted by: rusty3 | December 2, 2010 7:06 PM | Report abuse

"georges2" thinks anyone "won" in the recent election??

The loud and clear message from the elections was: "Thank you, Bush Supreme Court! Without the $4 BILLION DOLLARS donated by the CORPORATE "person" you created for us, promoting the crazies and the unqualified, the gullible voters would have voted for the valuable candidates you slandered. Your daily and repetitive malicious advertising to damage the reputations of great and honorable congresspeople is criminal, but we needed your billions to accomplish it and PRETEND that we actually "won" anything."
These criminals don't understand that what they "won" is just one giant step closer to being victims of a dictatorship. If we are controlled by the billions of dollars of corporate money, we are no longer a DEMOCRACY!!
Figure it out! The power in this country is the corporate money, which USED TO BE considered "corporations". Each billion dollar corporation is now considered a "PERSON" and will be donating to every election from now on unless we get this decision repealed!
Will the wealthy benefit from it? Oh yes, a FEW of the wealthy Americans will benefit, but the majority of Republicans AND Democrats will only feel the damage and the LOSS of our Democracy as we have known it our entire lives. However, the FOREIGN interests (which are LEGION) in our corporations' "PERSON", are the BIGGEST fingers we will feel on our lives!!

Posted by: Maerzie | December 2, 2010 6:58 PM | Report abuse

boehner doesn't know the difference between chichen she it and chicken salad.

Posted by: blinwilly | December 2, 2010 6:57 PM | Report abuse

I live on a fixed income of $24,000.00 per year. What is disgusting about this latest vote is that the Democraps are using class warfare to keep their hands in our pockets. What is needed is an across the board tax cut for everyone, with corresponding cuts in spending. The Dems keep pushing for taxing the rich, but not out of any real concern for the middle class, they just want the cash to keep rolling in to maintain their current spending levels, after all, Rangel needs to keep up the maintenance on is Dominican Republic Villa, doesn't he?

Posted by: jonweiss1 | December 2, 2010 6:51 PM | Report abuse

Way to go, Nancy! That's my speaker!

Posted by: herrbrahms | December 2, 2010 6:49 PM | Report abuse

Hey democrats, enjoy the symbolic vote. You won't be able to pull stunts like this in about three weeks.

Merry Christmas.

Posted by: ADNova | December 2, 2010 6:48 PM | Report abuse

The Republican Party will soon not exist: it caters to few too many very, very people. The class warfare brought against the middle class and the poor will be realized and defeated. The majority rule, and there are a lot more of us than there are of them. Corporate America is sitting on historic profits while middle America is yet in a "recession"? Time to bring the hammer down.

Posted by: newsboy3 | December 2, 2010 6:46 PM | Report abuse

"georges2" actuall thinks someone "lost" the last election, the HEIGHT of stupidity! Everybody in the country knows that our new corporate "person" BOUGHT the last election so they could get everything they want from the crazies and unqualified idiots they paid for! Did he think that $4 BILLION DOLLARS WORTH of defamatory propaganda just came from the fairies?? if not for all the lies and slander to ruin the good standing of the democratic candidates, good people would've voted the democrats in in a heartbeat. The corporations didn't spend those BILLIONS for nothing!! Obviously, "georges2", is not the brightest bulb on the tree. I guarantee you he's one of the people making LESS than $200,000 a year himself and VOTES FOR the wealthy and AGAINST himself!! He sounds like that brain level~~no doubt, one of the gullible who believes every word he hears from the entertainers on FOX!!

Posted by: Maerzie | December 2, 2010 6:45 PM | Report abuse

Boehner knows all about chicken crap.

Posted by: solsticebelle | December 2, 2010 6:44 PM | Report abuse

Georges2, what a fool you are.
while crying for the poor ultra wealthy not having their tax benefits extended, you rip the middle class for getting some.
What a mind boggling fool you are

Posted by: vwcat | December 2, 2010 6:44 PM | Report abuse

These next few years will spell the end of the Republican Party altogether; it will no longer exist...which is fine in that it only caters to a few very rich people. The middle class will very quickly learn a lesson and then we they will fight the class warfare that has been waged against them. Corporate profits are sky high yet middle America is still in a "recession"? Why? Because the rich are hoarding the wealth. It's time to make them pay as much as they have made us pay. Learn a lesson from France, England, and Ireland: we need to stick together.

Posted by: newsboy3 | December 2, 2010 6:42 PM | Report abuse

The Senate GOP can shove it if they don't like it. Then all the tax levels will revert on everybody, due to the GOP's greed. I hope the house is done with this issue.

Posted by: larry9 | December 2, 2010 6:42 PM | Report abuse

that your republican party for you.
Vote no on middle class tax cuts and unemployment extension benefits, just in time for the holidays.
But, throw a tantrum over the poor filthy rich.
Shows you where they place their priorities.
so what if a child spends xmas in the cold, eating at food kitchen and sleeping under a cardboard box because the banksters ruined the economy.
The republicans don't care so long as the ultra wealthy don't have to worry their little heads over paying a couple hundred more in taxes.
I hope this is a lesson for those fools who voted for more republicans this November.
It is going to be a very painful and shameful two years ahead of us.

Posted by: vwcat | December 2, 2010 6:40 PM | Report abuse

Chicken crap? No, what's chicken crap is that people making $200,000/year ever got these tax breaks in the first place. And by the way, I am one of those persons, so don't tell me that restoring the tax rates to where they were pre-Bush II is some big hardship. Nobody in this income bracket is going to experience ANY hardship if these Bush-era tax breaks aren't extended. How selfish have we become?? We're talking about what, 39.6% instead of 35%? Now THAT'S chicken crap!

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Posted by: highshopping | December 2, 2010 6:38 PM | Report abuse

"The proposal would extend the Bush-era tax cuts only to individuals earning $200,000 or less per year and families earning $250,000 or less."

Now, let's be clear: individuals and families earning over those thresholds would, under the proposal, get tax cuts on the amounts under those thresholds. They just wouldn't get an extra tax cut.

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Posted by: highshopping | December 2, 2010 6:35 PM | Report abuse

THANK GOD! The right thing was done: how long has the "right thing to do" been in need? A breath of fresh air after so many years of blunders (think Bush) and the near hijacking of common sense by the dolts of the Tea Party.

Posted by: newsboy3 | December 2, 2010 6:35 PM | Report abuse

More divisive bs from Pelosi. Guess she didn't get the WH memo (if it matters).

Posted by: JAH3 | December 2, 2010 6:31 PM | Report abuse

Well, just look at that!!?? "georges2" wants to blame Bush's "DOUBLING of the national debt" onto Obama!! Hilarious!! Did this guy just hatch out of an egg, or what?? He misses the trillion dollars a year wars of Bush's, his deregulation of the finacial industry that put us in the hole even deeper, AND the billions of dollars of tax breaks he gave to the wealthy. Poor "georges2" missed out on ALL the fun! Now he thinks he can blame Obama for Bush's stupidity and liking every spending bill he ever saw??

GET REAL!!

Posted by: Maerzie | December 2, 2010 6:31 PM | Report abuse


okay...it is HR 4583 and it's the Middle Class Tax Relief Act of 2010

would be nice IF we had a middle class.

what's middle class.....less than $200,000 and more than what???

did anyone see the interviews with Buffet, Gates, and Turner. They are against extending the tax cuts. They don't mind....they are mega-rich.

Posted by: TheBabeNemo | December 2, 2010 6:28 PM | Report abuse

I'll say it again: The GOP has chutzpah on the order of the guy who killed his parents and then threw himself on the mercy of the court because he was an orphan.

The party wants to wrap itself in the mantle of fiscal responsibility, populism, and family values, but it's pretty hard to do so when you put two wars on the national credit card, demand indefinite extension of tax cuts for the top 1 percent, and then tut-tut about finding spending cuts to pay for a temporary extension of unemployment benefits in the worst economic crisis since the 1930s.

Let's call the GOP what they are: phonies, spendthrifts, hypocrites, extortionists, unreformed Scrooges and friends of the robber baron.

Posted by: AnotherHagman | December 2, 2010 6:27 PM | Report abuse

God could tell the Republicans that it's bad policy to continue the Bush tax cuts and they would refuse to believe him. Truth, economics, national debt have nothing to do with it. They want to reward their base. Guess what tea bag people - that's not you.

Posted by: MNUSA | December 2, 2010 6:22 PM | Report abuse

The party of "NO" has metamorphosed to the party of "WON't, WILL NOT - YOU CAN't MAKE ME - NYAAA-NYAAA NA NYAA-NYAA"

I wonder what it takes to make the citizens in this country to see the light and that the the GOP is pulling the wool over their eyes while taking them to cleaners to fleece the living daylights out of them.

Top tax rate under Eisenhower: 91%
During the Eisenhower administration, we lived in the golden age of this Republic, and I didn't see any millionaires in the soup lines.

Top tax rate under Nixon: 70%. We had a so-so lackluster economy that he tried to fix with salary freezes and and a currency devaluation. It hurt us little fold but I didn't hear the poor little rich boys whimpering because they were forced to take a 30$ reduction in their taxes. The windfall was supposed to trickle down to us little people but it didn't. It rained upon us with what McConnell now calls bull crap.

Top tax rate under Reagan: 50%
Hoo boy! Ronnie Reaganomics came in, and in one year the US devolved from being the world's largest creditor nation to the world's largest debtor nation. The national debt doubled not once - but twice! - during his first administration and a third time during his second. Hoo-boy! Good thing they lowered the poor-little-rich-boys income tax or they wouldn't have been able to trickle down their spares shekels and save us little folk from our financial foibles.

Obama's target top tax rate: 39.6%
Uh-huh, and look where we are now. The rich have never been so rich and the US now has the smallest middle class in the industrial world and it is getting smaller still day-by-day.

Milk the cow? Haw! BOssie's gone dry. Today, what's left of the middle class is trying to be drug along by hind tit. While the poor retirees on Medicare and Social Security are facing cuts to help save the Republicans to save the country without raising taxes on the poor little rich boys!

PROGRESS, REPUBLICAN STYLE! AIN'T IT WONDERFUL? ? ?

Posted by: chamateddy | December 2, 2010 6:22 PM | Report abuse

OMG! Republicans want to spend the US into oblivion. We need to cut spending.

Posted by: Maddogg | December 2, 2010 6:21 PM | Report abuse

I think this is a tremendous act of courage. Instead of continuing to be beaten up and lied to by the Republicons the House Democrats stood their ground. To the "Blue Dogs" why not just change to being Republicons and enjoy being owned and operated by the Wall Street, Big Corporations and the wealthy. You do not represent Democrats in your views that the wealthy have not screwed the poor and middle class and now want more benefits. Even thought they brought about the recession and forced Congress to bail them out at the expense of the poor and middle class. Screw the Republicons, they will be the ones with their wealthy owners that will bring about the true revolution that this country needs. The common people will rise up and remove the ownership of government from the wealthy.

Posted by: deminfla1 | December 2, 2010 6:20 PM | Report abuse

The party of "NO" has metamorphosed to the party of "WON't, WILL NOT - YOU CAN't MAKE ME - NYAAA-NYAAA NA NYAA-NYAA"

I wonder what it takes to make the citizens in this country to see the light and that the the GOP is pulling the wool over their eyes while taking them to cleaners to fleece the living daylights out of them.

Top tax rate under Eisenhower: 91%
During the Eisenhower administration, we lived in the golden age of this Republic, and I didn't see any millionaires in the soup lines.

Top tax rate under Nixon: 70%. We had a so-so lackluster economy that he tried to fix with salary freezes and and a currency devaluation. It hurt us little fold but I didn't hear the poor little rich boys whimpering because they were forced to take a 30$ reduction in their taxes. The windfall was supposed to trickle down to us little people but it didn't. It rained upon us with what McConnell now calls bull crap.

Top tax rate under Reagan: 50%
Hoo boy! Ronnie Reaganomics came in, and in one year the US devolved from being the world's largest creditor nation to the world's largest debtor nation. The national debt doubled not once - but twice! - during his first administration and a third time during his second. Hoo-boy! Good thing they lowered the poor-little-rich-boys income tax or they wouldn't have been able to trickle down their spares shekels and save us little folk from our financial foibles.

Obama's target top tax rate: 39.6%
Uh-huh, and look where we are now. The rich have never been so rich and the US now has the smallest middle class in the industrial world and it is getting smaller still day-by-day.

Milk the cow? Haw! BOssie's gone dry. Today, what's left of the middle class is trying to be drug along by hind tit. While the poor retirees on Medicare and Social Security are facing cuts to help save the Republicans to save the country without raising taxes on the poor little rich boys!

PROGRESS, REPUBLICAN STYLE! AIN'T IT WONDERFUL? ? ?

Posted by: chamateddy | December 2, 2010 6:20 PM | Report abuse

"REAL" Republicans have no conscience, no patriotism, and total greed and selfishness. They actually believe that the unemployed were ENJOYING living like paupers! I remember BEING there, and "enjoying" was never happening. Luckily I had made "Kiska" that year, and I'm surprised my kids even still like it because we had to eat it EVERY meal because we couldn't afford meat so the Kiska was the only meat we had in the freezer. I wish the God of the Old Testament would put some plague or pestilence onto these selfish, greedy Republicans who have ruined our Congress! (He could also include those Middle Class people who are stupid enough to keep voting AGAINST themselves and the rest of the majority in our country!)

Posted by: Maerzie | December 2, 2010 6:19 PM | Report abuse

Despite the GOP's ransom letter that says that 42 Republicans will block all Senate operations, it is far from a done deal that this bill will not go through the Senate.

Under this new media scrutiny we may see some Republicans defect and vote for this valuable compromise that gives tax breaks to 98% of Americans. Now it's time for Obama to get focused and use the media to deliver his campaign promise.

In the words of Yogi Berra, "It ain't over till it's over."

Posted by: JamesCaroll | December 2, 2010 6:17 PM | Report abuse

Gridlock rules! Let them all expire. They were never fiscally sound in the first place and were bullied through congress. Even with this expiration of an irresponsible wartime tax cut (it is an expiration of a cut and not a new tax; the cowardly congress in President Bush's first term did not take responsibility for a permanent tax cut), it still won't be enough to bring our fiscal house in order. Let them expire! I will pay my share and it hurts. I do demand that our political leaders use our tax money to strengthen our nation economically. I know this is too much to ask of our craven political leaders; I only hope that the Dems won't back down and Gridlock will save the day. Hooray Gridlock!

Posted by: mraymond10 | December 2, 2010 6:17 PM | Report abuse

As Republicans and their rich overlords drive the country further into the ditch, there's a peaceful feeling knowing that they too (the Republican base nuts i.e. Teabaggers) have to live in the same broken down wreck of a country as the rest of us as a result of it.

Posted by: DrainYou | December 2, 2010 6:17 PM | Report abuse

This will ultimately be only a symbolic gesture by that idiot Pelosi. On jan 1, 2011 all of her brain dead cohorts will be gone from the floor and her damage can be undone. Then the Republicans need to kick her and her buddy Hoyer to the wall and ignore them.

Posted by: rplat | December 2, 2010 6:17 PM | Report abuse

"The House on Thursday passed a bill that would extend the Bush-era tax cuts only to the middle class..."

s is not a measure that extends Bush Tax Cuts to a specific group of people. This measure extends the Bush Tax Cuts to EVERYONE, for richer or poorer and everywhere in-between... but only up to $250,000.

Any income beyond that will have to negotiate further tax cuts, or if not, expire and return to the previous tax rates. Let me repeat. Everyone... including those Americans that earn higher incomes are receiving a tax cut. It is not just for people who are making under $250,000. And it's that kind of word play that tricks the public into voting against their own economic interest.

Furthermore, let's be abundantly clear that the first $250,000 is NET income, not gross. So in recognition of all truths, most if not all gross incomes higher than $250,000 will be lowered through the maximum application of both tax deductions and income credits allowable by law.

Posted by: RicBrennan | December 2, 2010 6:17 PM | Report abuse

This will ultimately be only a symbolic gesture by that idiot Pelosi. On jan 1, 2011 all of her brain dead cohorts will be gone from the floor and her damage can be undone. Then the Republicans need to kick her and her buddy Hoyer to the wall and ignore them.

Posted by: rplat | December 2, 2010 6:15 PM | Report abuse

Even Warren Buffet says tax cuts to the wealthy don't help the economy none. The Republicans can get up off their knees and quit licking the shoes of the super-wealthy. It's disgusting.

Posted by: DavidH3 | December 2, 2010 6:14 PM | Report abuse

More sunshine and rainbows from the Democratic party who thinks a symbolic gesture that has absolutely no chance of passing in the Senate is acceptable bipartisan. I'm so glad this farce is almost over.

Posted by: Desertdiva1 | December 2, 2010 6:13 PM | Report abuse

CORRECTED HEADLINE: Ousted lame duck Dims thumb their nose at the voters.

Posted by: screwjob22
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CORRECTED HEADLINE: Repukes thumb noses at the majority of americans while receiving BJs from dumb posters.

Posted by: LABC | December 2, 2010 6:12 PM | Report abuse

Who is "georges2" and just how long HAS he had his head up his Corporate-Butt-Kissing-Tax-Cuts-For-The-Wealthy-Neo-Nazi-Republican-Ass? More GOP greed-based crapola.

Posted by: Bushwhacked1 | December 2, 2010 6:04 PM | Report abuse

the GOP are the paid tools of the wealthy and corporations in America. The Republigoons are simply kissing the a@s of those who put them in office....yes, the CORPORATIONS who bankrolled their campaigns.

The GOP seeks to change the country so it is of the wealthy, for the wealthy, and run by the wealthy...and that's called an oligarchy. If you want to see what that looks like for real, take a look at Russia. Ironic that GOP is aiming to be more like Russia than America, but we always knew the GOP was just an authoritarian-loving party of stooges for the wealthy.

Posted by: B-rod | December 2, 2010 5:58 PM | Report abuse


CORRECTED HEADLINE: Ousted lame duck Dims thumb their nose at the voters.

Posted by: screwjob22 | December 2, 2010 5:57 PM | Report abuse


Barry the incompetent boob Obama's idea of bipartisanship: "We don't mind the Republicans joining us. They can come for the ride, but they gotta sit in back."

The headless chicken in the White House said those arrogant words one week before last month's election. One month from now 62 Dim congressmen are ousted from the House and the GOP takes control. Way to go, Barry.

Posted by: screwjob22 | December 2, 2010 5:54 PM | Report abuse

Sick minds run Washington.

Federal employees receive different salaries for the same job grade, years of service etc. depending where they live. That's because living costs differ from SMSA to SMSA (Standard Metropolitan Statistical Areas) which the feds use to adjust properly.

What's good for government bureaucrats should be good for Americans.

Posted by: neilc38 | December 2, 2010 5:54 PM | Report abuse

The Obama Plan is the Destruction of America. The Actions show it. His words show it. The results are showing it. The People see it and have REJECTED OBAMA AND HIS POLICY. The People don't want a compromise. The People want the Destructive Policy of this Demonic Obama Administration STOPPED. See the Lie.

Posted by: makom | December 2, 2010 5:52 PM | Report abuse

Some historical background...

Top tax rate under Eisenhower: 91%

Top tax rate under Nixon: 70%

Top tax rate under Reagan: 50%

Obama's target top tax rate: 39.6%

Question for the GOP: If Obama "hates business" for wanting it to revert to where it was for the boom economy of the 90s... then what were Ike's, Dick's and Ronnie's feelings toward business?

Would you say "seething loathing" characterized their attitudes best, or would "homicidal hatred" be more apt?

Could you possibly be more absurd, GOP? Even Bill Gates and Warren Buffet are embarrassed by how low their taxes are during this time of record deficits.

Have a little patriotism, GOP. Think of your country for once, and not just your big-ticket campaign donors. Just once.

Posted by: B2O2 | December 2, 2010 5:49 PM | Report abuse

mightyheidi wrote>>>And being that 50% of taxpayers owe O federal income taxes, that means that the burden keeps falling on a smaller percentage of us taxpayers who have to shoulder the cost.

Yep - when Reagan was elected the Top 2% paid a tax rate of 70%. Reagan lowered it to 50% - Daddy Bush lowered it to 28%.
Clinton raised it to 39%, gave tax cuts only to the middle class and the country prospered - creating 23M jobs.
Baby Bush lowered the Top 2% tax rate to 35% - and created 2M jobs - WHILE touting an "ownership society" AND Boehner & McConnell passing legislation giving HUGE tax breaks to companies that move jobs overseas.
Republicans created a perfect storm for VAST unemployment - and then expected Obama to "fix it" in less than 2 years.

Posted by: angie12106 | December 2, 2010 5:49 PM | Report abuse

the bickering back and forth will stall the START legislation too.

repulsives have said they will not budge on anything on the floor until the tax cuts are extended and they get what they want.

i'm so sick of the back & forth bickering when so much is on the line.
2.2 million people lost their unemployment benefits yesterday. Foreclosures will go sky high for Xmas, and the ones who already lost their homes and are renting, will be homeless living in cars. If they have the car.

Cancel Xmas !!!!

Posted by: TheBabeNemo | December 2, 2010 5:49 PM | Report abuse

Bob Orben, Gerald Ford's speechwriter, once said, "A conservative is someone who believes that the problem with our economy is that poor people have too much money."

Posted by: oldbob | December 2, 2010 5:48 PM | Report abuse

"georges2" has "brain1" if he thinks Democrats moved big business and jobs out of the country! George Bush Sr. and George Bush Jr. were two of the the primary culprits in losing all these jobs. WHO is Big Business anyway who MOVED so they could reap so much more profit by paying slave labor wages of $10 a week or whatever the heck rip-off it is these days?? DUHHH!!! OOF COURSE, it's the REPUBLICANS!! Democrats KNOW they have to work for a living! They certainly wouldn't be stupid enough to send their own "bread and butter overseas!

Even recently, Obama wanted to slap more taxes onto these businesses who have no patriotism in favor of their own greed, and guess what?? The REPUBLICANS voted against it!

The ONLY ones who benefit from all our jobs overseas are the REAL Republicans! NOT the STUPID, gullible ones, who are "Republicans in name only" and vote AGAINST themselves and their own jobs and families by voting for the opposing party, but the REAL ones who only vote FOR themselves!!

Posted by: Maerzie | December 2, 2010 5:48 PM | Report abuse

Republicans hate the middle class, or anyone who really works for a living. Their goal is to divert all wealth to a handful of people who do nothing but harm to the economy and society in general. Why?

Posted by: mcstowy | December 2, 2010 5:46 PM | Report abuse

Continued obscene, rip-off, UNPAID FOR tax breaks for the ULTRA RICH like McConnell, the Bushes, Cheney, McCain, blue dog millionaires, et al. ISN'T just obscene....
IT IS AMORAL (and ironically fostered by the Party that claims the God of Po' folks, i.e. po' white trash Jesus (who was a liberal).
The Ultimate LIE! --- the GOPers pretend to be "Christians".

Posted by: lufrank1 | December 2, 2010 5:43 PM | Report abuse


The same silly Dims who got ousted from the House one month ago for taxing and spending make this their parting shot. Of course this bill will never make it through the Senate.

In one month the GOP takes over and 62 of those Dims are replaced by Republicans in the House.

Posted by: screwjob22 | December 2, 2010 5:42 PM | Report abuse

The rationale used by Connolly et al is laughable. Like I really believe netting a couple of thousand less is going to make much difference in the spending habits of people making more than $250,000.

We're witnessing a massive display of spinelessness on the part of our Democratic representatives in both houses of Congress. I'll stay home for the next election and hope for a GOP sweep. After a couple of years them hosing up everything they touch (an inevitable occurrence) perhaps then we can elect some actual Democrats.

Posted by: st50taw | December 2, 2010 5:41 PM | Report abuse

georges2 wrote>>>The people who lost the election on November 2 are showing why they lost the election! Can these jokers be more stupid?

That's right Georges - the Democrats lost because they enacted laws FOR The People which ALL Republicans opposed.....
Wall Street reform with consumer protections
Credit Card reform with consumer protections
Obamacare with consumer protections

Naturally, Wall Street reacted by donating heavily to Republicans to air lying attack ads against the Democrats, hoping Republicans would have the opportunity to repeal all those laws that PROTECT The People's interests.

Posted by: angie12106 | December 2, 2010 5:40 PM | Report abuse

The democrapers have it too easy-- all they have to do is keep creating socialist welfare programs to keep the masses dependent on them, it's the republicans that have to come up with the way to PAY for them. And being that 50% of taxpayers owe O federal income taxes, that means that the burden keeps falling on a smaller percentage of us taxpayers who have to shoulder the cost. And we don't FORGET to pay our taxes like liberal Charlie Rangel.

Posted by: mightyheidi | December 2, 2010 5:40 PM | Report abuse

Thanks dut5 - I was going to make the exact same point. Keeping the lower tax rates on income less than 250,000 DOES benefit those who net more than that - they only pay the higher rate on income above 250,000. They get the same tax break as someone making 50,000 - on the first 50,000 of their income.

It's important to remember this and I wish WAPO would quit calling these "middle tax class breaks" - higher earners will also pay the lower rates on their first 250,000 of income.

Posted by: jvlem | December 2, 2010 5:39 PM | Report abuse

Time for a new election to throw out the Republicans.

Posted by: Maddogg | December 2, 2010 5:38 PM | Report abuse

Time for a new election to throw out the Republicans.

Posted by: Maddogg | December 2, 2010 5:37 PM | Report abuse

when does Congress go into holiday recess, does anyone know????

and also, was this bill H.R. 4853? I want to read it....

Posted by: TheBabeNemo | December 2, 2010 5:37 PM | Report abuse

Georges2 wrote:
"Ah, BasicInstinct, vous vous êtes souvenu! Tant pis pour moi! Vous américains sont très amusants! Toujours!"
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Yes; of course I remembered! And guess what? You’re even funnier for assuming that I don’t know French! Yup...and you're still a liar.

Posted by: BasicInstinct | December 2, 2010 5:37 PM | Report abuse

georges2 - The rich people don't do crap for America. They don't generate jobs, and they don't spend to their means by any stretch of the imagination. 2%-3% of people spending more money won't make the smallest ripple in our economy.

Cut the crap on being taxed to death. We pay some the lowest taxes on the planet, in a country that is larger than most.

If you drive, it is your tax dollars that paved that road, and will keep it repaired, and ensure that bridges don't collapse.

Oh, so a couple of bridges did, didn't they? I guess we aren't paying enough to maintain this transportation network then. Why don't you ask your good buddy John Dollar to donate some of his wealth to repair those bridges?

Oh yeah, that's right, it didn't happen on YOUR stretch of road, why would you care, right?

That same transportation network supplies the food to the grocery store that you shop at, and the clothes that you wear, even down to the toys you get at Chucky Cheese.

Grow the hell up and get a brain!

Posted by: taroya | December 2, 2010 5:32 PM | Report abuse

georges2 wrote>>>The Democrats are too stupid to understand that the so-called RICH PEOPLE are the movers and shakers of this country

No - they're movers and shakers in companies that move jobs AWAY from the U.S.
And Republicans want to give them ANOTHER tax cut to INVEST in MORE companies moving jobs to other countries.

Posted by: angie12106 | December 2, 2010 5:32 PM | Report abuse

The poor pay 49% more taxes than the Billionaires an Millionaires. They won't share the wealth, we alrighty then we will have to all Robin Hood them! I mean that with all my heart an soul! What that means is they will continue to screw us at the gas pumps which sets everything else out of reach. America have you all had enough?

Posted by: JWTX | December 2, 2010 5:31 PM | Report abuse

Republicans vote to increase DEBT!

Wait til their voters find out.

Posted by: Maddogg | December 2, 2010 5:31 PM | Report abuse

If you’re a Small Business owner, and you don’t know about the incentives you have available to you, maybe you shouldn’t be running a business. Even though you may not be receiving a tax cut (because your take-home is over 250K a year), you can take advantage of: The new Small Business Jobs Act (which was passed in September) includes a package of tax incentives amounting to $12,000,000,000. This was implemented to help Small Businesses grow. You can also take advantage of: The Small Business Health Care Tax Credit.

Posted by: BasicInstinct | December 2, 2010 5:30 PM | Report abuse

Bob Orben, Gerald Ford's speechwriter, once said, "A conservative is someone who believes that the problem with our economy is that poor people have too much money."

Posted by: oldbob | December 2, 2010 5:30 PM | Report abuse

If you’re a Small Business owner, and you don’t know about the incentives you have available to you, maybe you shouldn’t be running a business. Even though you may not be receiving a tax cut (because your take-home is over 250K a year), you can take advantage of: The new Small Business Jobs Act (which was passed in September) includes a package of tax incentives amounting to $12,000,000,000. This was implemented to help Small Businesses grow. You can also take advantage of: The Small Business Health Care Tax Credit.

Posted by: BasicInstinct | December 2, 2010 5:29 PM | Report abuse

For the last two years the Republic Party has been whining that they weren't given the opportunity for up or down votes? They were given one and now they're crying foul... I mean chicken crap.

Posted by: whocares666 | December 2, 2010 5:28 PM | Report abuse

Get out the phone books and bring in the cots!! - I'd love to see the Republicans filibuster the "chicken crap" middle class tax cut.
All Republicans REALLY want is a tax cut for the wealthiest of the wealthy.

Posted by: angie12106 | December 2, 2010 5:28 PM | Report abuse

It's obvious that the reason Orange Boehner is so mad is that he doesn't want to be on record voting against middle-class tax cuts. Boner knows that voting to hold middle-class tax cuts hostage is electoral poison -- that's why he says this is a vote about setting up "the next election." And it's why -- as he said in September -- if it were the only thing he could vote on, he'd vote for it.

The fact that the extremist Republican party is holding the entire congressional agenda hostage (again) in their pursuit of their beloved unfunded, deficit producing ($700 Billion!) Tax Cuts for Billions proves once again that the middle-class Republican base morons (Teabaggers) who cheerlead for Republican policies like this, are some of the dumbest f-ing people on the face of the earth.

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Posted by: DrainYou | December 2, 2010 5:28 PM | Report abuse

The democraps are the party of MORE, MORE, MORE, but don't expect them to pay for it. Being over 50% of taxpayers pay O federal income taxes, that means the burden falls on the rest of us who have to pay more for charlie rangels liberal socialist welfare programs, but unlike charlie rangel who "forgets" to pay his fair share, the rest of don't have that luxury, we would be in jail.

Posted by: mightyheidi | December 2, 2010 5:28 PM | Report abuse

Mitch McConnell: The Manchurian Candidate.

Posted by: bluebird5 | December 2, 2010 5:25 PM | Report abuse

Ohioan, you undoubtedly know that your 49% (which is too high a number anyway) statistic is highly misleading, as it refers only to payment of federal income tax. Most people pay some other form of federal tax (such as payroll taxes), and often do so at higher rates than the wealthy. They also may pay state income tax and almost certainly pay state sales tax (again effectively at a higher rate than the wealthy). But you knew all that, didn't you?

Posted by: dut5 | December 2, 2010 5:25 PM | Report abuse


this delays the vote on extension of unemployment benefits too.

they are holding the unemployment extension as hostage until they pass the Bush tax cuts bill.

it won't pass the Senate.

Posted by: TheBabeNemo | December 2, 2010 5:25 PM | Report abuse

It will be fun to watch Senate GOP members fillerbuster tax cuts for the middle class while they hold national security (in the form of the bipartisan START agreement) hostage to try to get tax cuts for their rich supporters.

Tax cuts for the rich are not a stiumulus. Bush gave them huge tax cuts, and that was followed by the Bush recession/depression, massive bailouts for those who had gotten the cuts, and now, those folks are whole again, sitting on billions while their corporations fail to employ the struggling middle class.

Posted by: tinyjab40 | December 2, 2010 5:23 PM | Report abuse

Hmmm. Im a small businessman and I make over $250,000 but I am trying to understand the Republican rationale of why extending the tax cuts to people like me would make a difference in considering possible raises and holiday bonuses for my
employees. I know this is Washington but the rationale that the Republicans are giving as to why they should extend tax cuts to high earners is especially ludicrous. If the thinking is that as a business owner if you keep my tax rates the same next year I will be more giving to my employees this holiday - I think that's a reach. Its mixing "Scrooge" with the trickle down theory.

Posted by: Tom1 | December 2, 2010 5:21 PM | Report abuse

"House passes bill to permanently extend some of the Bush-era tax cuts"

...or, in other words, the lunatic-left d-crat socialists VOTE TO RAISE TAXES on many, job-creating, small-business Americans.

Posted by: TeaPartyPatriot | December 2, 2010 5:21 PM | Report abuse

So basically Boehner feels that middle class people are 'chickensh%t' when it is the rich we need to be worried about.

Posted by: lemondog | December 2, 2010 5:21 PM | Report abuse

The Democraps are the party of MORE

Posted by: mightyheidi | December 2, 2010 5:21 PM | Report abuse

Ah, BasicInstinct, vous vous êtes souvenu! Tant pis pour moi! Vous américains sont très amusants! Toujours!

Posted by: georges2 | December 2, 2010 5:20 PM | Report abuse

Tom1: I doubt if you're a businessman, or,
maybe your "business" won't last long.
More Taxes means Less money to spend on new equipment, new cars, vacation, etc.
Less Money spent on these things means less jobs.

Posted by: ohioan | December 2, 2010 5:20 PM | Report abuse

The Republicans have the obligation to explain to the American people from whom they will borrow the money to pay for another round of Bush-era fiscal policy. From whom, and how specifically, will you borrow the money?

Posted by: Ladyrantsalot | December 2, 2010 5:19 PM | Report abuse

Republicans and the right-wing LYING Media claim that they are worried about the Deficits! WHAT A LIE. Because here is How to cut the budget deficit by $10Trillion:

1st, cancel the Bush Tax cuts for the wealthiest top 1%, this will save almost $1Trillion over 10 years.

2nd, end the Iraq & Afghanistan Wars. This will save us $2Trillion over the next 10 years, at least.

3rd, Cut the US Military budget to half of what it was during Reagan area. After all the Soviet Union DOES NOT Exist anymore And Taliban has ZERO Planes, Ships, Submarines, etc.

More here:
http://RealNewsPost.com?n=ThinkDeep.34356

Posted by: SayNo2RepublicanConJob | December 2, 2010 5:17 PM | Report abuse

georges2, you undoubtedly know that, historically, blue states pay more into the U.S. Treasury than they receive from it, and that, historically, red states receive more than they pay. Yes, there is a form of welfare here.

Posted by: dut5 | December 2, 2010 5:16 PM | Report abuse

Same-old, same-old Democrats! Keep it up!
Dividing the country; Playing politics instead of helping this country.
They don't care about creating jobs;
Why should they?
The Democratic base are those 49% of Americans Who Don't Even Pay Taxes!
As long as they get their welfare/entitlements for that 49%, they don't care if jobs are created or not!

Posted by: ohioan | December 2, 2010 5:16 PM | Report abuse

georges2-- if you consider an F-4 Phantom II a latrine I guess I did confusing you with me

Posted by: jmfromdc | December 2, 2010 5:16 PM | Report abuse

Hmmm. Im a small businessman and I make over $250,000 but I am trying to understand the Republican rationale of why extending the tax cuts to people like me would make a difference in considering possible raises and holiday bonuses for my
employees. I know this is Washington but the reasons that the Republicans should extend tax cuts to high earners is especially ludicrous

Posted by: Tom1 | December 2, 2010 5:16 PM | Report abuse

Breaking Now

Republicans vote to increase DEBT after their political campaign to LOWER debt. ROFLMAO

Boener needs to get off the booze and stay off.

Posted by: Maddogg | December 2, 2010 5:15 PM | Report abuse

All of you anti-Republican welfare recipients on this site need to pay attention to jmk55. This is exactly what's going to happen. If you people could have just stayed in high school perhaps you would have learned something about economics! Too bad. Those of us who did and then who went on to earn our MBA's do understand this - and we're sick and tired of supporting you.

Posted by: georges2 | December 2, 2010 5:12 PM | Report abuse

jmk55 Posted:

My answer is simple - YOU RAISE MY TAXES, I LAY THEM OFF! Any questions? Have a nice day!

_____________________________________________

So who are you gonna lay off....that image you see in the mirror everyday?

Good luck!!!!
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It's not about luck, it's about the principle. Almost 50% of so called taxpayers pay no income taxes at all. How about making them contribute like everywhere else in the world?
As to laying people off, I'd start with liberals.

Posted by: jmk55 | December 2, 2010 5:12 PM | Report abuse

“Georges2” admitted – 3 months ago – that he doesn’t live in the US, and IS NOT AN AMERICAN. While we were debating healthcare, he stated he lived in Europe and knows how Socialized medicine works. So; please don’t waste your time talking to “georges2”...he’s not even American. However; if “georges2” was lying back then, I’d like to call him out as a typical Republican liar!

Posted by: BasicInstinct | December 2, 2010 5:11 PM | Report abuse

Families only earning less than $250K per year? Gee! Half the federal workforce earns more than that!

Posted by: Capitalist-1 | December 2, 2010 5:11 PM | Report abuse

Ooooh, Maddogg, you're the one who needs to do the research. Sorry to have to break the news to you, but anyone on welfare in a Red State most likely is a Democrat! Ooooh, you're trying to be so clever and cool, but you're not doing a very good job. We Republicans aren't on welfare. We're paying for the Democrats who are!

Posted by: georges2 | December 2, 2010 5:08 PM | Report abuse

jmk55 Posted:

My answer is simple - YOU RAISE MY TAXES, I LAY THEM OFF! Any questions? Have a nice day!

_____________________________________________

So who are you gonna lay off....that image you see in the mirror everyday?

Good luck!!!!

Posted by: richdj25 | December 2, 2010 5:07 PM | Report abuse

Republicans and some cowardly Blue Dogs are insisting that we cannot go back to the old low tax rates for billionaires. Think about that. We are talking about raising their income tax rates from 35% to 39%. What horror!

Back when we had HUGE deficits after WWII, the top marginal rates went up to close to 90% for the very rich and no one complained.

The rich today are all FOR increasing their taxes...but that's only the VERY, Very, Rich like Bill Gates and Warren Buffet and George Soros. Only the Paris Hiltons and other people of huge inherited wealth would mildly object to a 4% increase of their income tax.

But the real cynical shocker in the argument of Republicans and DOIN (Dems only in Name) Blue Dogs that continuing this tax relief to the rich will HELP CREATE JOBS! The facts show that this tax relief for the past 10 years had no effect on jobs, just the reverse, and that it was a big part of tripling the national deficit under Bush.

Want commonsense? Want America back? Go for reality and not anything coming out of Red America, especially Blue Dogs, not anything coming from Fox News, and not anything coming from the Republican leadership in Congress.

What matters is getting our country moving. You can't do that with the Republican agenda to destroy our central government.

Posted by: walden1 | December 2, 2010 5:05 PM | Report abuse

Give the GOP a break -- they're just trying to protect their peer group!

Posted by: lddoyle2002 | December 2, 2010 5:05 PM | Report abuse

georges2, you need to do your homework before you embarass yourself further. Most welfare, and abortion, are in the rural areas of the RED AREAS. They are mostly poor, but very Republican. And, like most Republicans, they spend alot of time in hiding from themselves.

Posted by: Maddogg | December 2, 2010 5:05 PM | Report abuse

No, no, jmfromdc, you're confusing me with yourself. That's what you were doing. That's why you support the Democrats now. You have no other skills. Sorry to break the news to you.

Posted by: georges2 | December 2, 2010 5:05 PM | Report abuse

Sonmez, how many of your beloved Blue Dogs will have a lot of time on their hands in January? Why is that?

Regarding the vote on tax breaks in the House:
Everyone, rich and not rich, gets to keep the tax breaks for the portion of their income under 200/250K. Those earning over that amount will have to pay the back breaking amount of 3% more. That is what all this is about and it only involves about 1% of all Americans. WOW!

Posted by: FoundingMother | December 2, 2010 5:05 PM | Report abuse

Did we not just bail out the rich with trillions of taxpayer money?.
Where do think the DC money was invested?
At Fidelity where peons invest their IRA's?. Think Goldman Sachs.
How many jobs have the the tax cuts created in the last nine years. ZERO.
And the most vile response from Republicans to the working class was if we extend you unemployment benefits you will get lazy.
Middle Class is a status bestowed by the rich. I don't care if you live in a mansion, drive a mercedes, eat out at fine food joints, you are working class if you live paycheck to paycheck.

Posted by: JillCalifornia | December 2, 2010 5:04 PM | Report abuse

Also to be clear, for incomes under $250K the House Democrats voted to repeal the tax hikes that Mitch McConnell, John Boehner, and the other Republicans enacted to go into effect next month.

When you go to the supermarket and buy something on sale, e.g., Coca-Cola at 3 for $4, is it a price hike when it goes back to the regular price of $1.69?

The Dems gave the Rethugs a compromise they wanted. Before, McConnell et al. wanted taxes on everyone to go up next month. Now they don't want taxes on everyone to go up. So what the Rethugs get is 100% of Americans have their taxes below $250K stay the same and 2% of Americans see that their strip-mining of the Treasury is reduced.

Everybody wins! Even the people who trashed our economy win something.

Posted by: edallan | December 2, 2010 5:03 PM | Report abuse

georges2, you seem like a reasonable fellow, so you probably know that a majority of the national debt was run up during Republican administrations, and that a slight rise (from 35% to, say, 38.6%) in marginal tax rates for income over $250,000 is a far, far cry from the 70%-90% rates in earlier decades.

Your next post could signal that you're not impervious to reason.

Posted by: dut5 | December 2, 2010 5:02 PM | Report abuse

Georges2 wrote:
"I had absolutely no idea that so many people on welfare read the Washington Post. Amazing! Here's what I'm saying: Obama built this huge debt, but no one on this site seems able to comprehend that. Too much NASCAR? Too much meth? Those of us who WORK for a living are sick and tired of paying for those of you who don't…."
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First of all; you’ve already admitted that you don’t even live the US (I can repost your comment), so stop lying! Either you lied about living in Europe - just to advance your argument at that time – or you’re lying now! Which is it? Secondly; if you’re upset that you have to pay taxes, then you should be happy that Obama is offering you a tax cut (unless you’re one of the 2%).

Posted by: BasicInstinct | December 2, 2010 5:02 PM | Report abuse

The wealthy have already declared war, won it, and planted their flags in your backsides. Buck up, man up, and cowboy up!! Millionaires and Billionaires pay $0.00 in estate taxes in 2010.

Wealth, Income, and Power by G. William Domhoff

http://sociology.ucsc.edu/whorulesamerica/power/wealth.html

“In the United States, wealth is highly concentrated in a relatively few hands. As of 2007, the top 1% of households (the upper class) owned 34.6% of all privately held wealth, and the next 19% (the managerial, professional, and small business stratum) had 50.5%, which means that just 20% of the people owned a remarkable 85%, leaving only 15% of the wealth for the bottom 80% (wage and salary workers). In terms of financial wealth (total net worth minus the value of one's home), the top 1% of households had an even greater share: 42.7%.”

Posted by: Airborne82 | December 2, 2010 5:00 PM | Report abuse

My answer is simple - YOU RAISE MY TAXES, I LAY THEM OFF! Any questions? Have a nice day!

Posted by: jmk55 | December 2, 2010 5:00 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: pswift00: "I'm a fiscal conservative, "

No, you are not.

Posted by: BenLaGuer | December 2, 2010 5:00 PM | Report abuse

I'm a willing compromiser. Only defense contractor's should have a new flat tax of 20% applied to their annual sales until the wars are over and paid for. And let the Bush tax cuts continue.

Posted by: Maddogg | December 2, 2010 4:58 PM | Report abuse

georges2, Just so you know, not that it matters to me, I was in the Air Force and my father was a 37 year vet with 2 presidential extensions after 30 yrs; WWII, Korea and Viet Nam. I also have a pretty good job, this years income will be over $250.00. What were you doing in Afganistan, cleaning latrines?

Posted by: jmfromdc | December 2, 2010 4:57 PM | Report abuse

What's this about extending the Bush tax cuts? What we have coming up is the Bush tax INCREASE. That's what the majority Republican Congress voted for and Bush signed into law.
Now that we have the facts straight, what the House just voted for was a tax DECREASE from the Bush tax INCREASE.

Posted by: sensible | December 2, 2010 4:56 PM | Report abuse

georges2 Posted: Democrats are anti-American! Anyone who votes for a Democrat is too lazy to work!

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georgees2 sounds like something right out of faux news and Glen Beck.....always coming up with some lame excuse in doing things backwards. Sort of like John McCain constantly changing the goal posts in the DADT matter....lol!!!

You need help son.....cause none of those rich people you worship gives squat about you and your existence....as duly noted from Bush's financial crises.

Posted by: richdj25 | December 2, 2010 4:56 PM | Report abuse

Nice to know that Speaker Orange thinks my tax cut is "chicken crap". Low Class Big Time.

Posted by: BBear1 | December 2, 2010 4:54 PM | Report abuse

bipartisanship lost Dems the last election. Republicans killed it, and can kiss it goodbye.

Posted by: j762 | December 2, 2010 4:54 PM | Report abuse

bipartisanship lost Dems the last election. Republicans killed it, and can kiss it goodbye.

Posted by: j762 | December 2, 2010 4:54 PM | Report abuse

bipartisanship lost Dems the last election. Republicans killed it, and can kiss it goodbye.

Posted by: j762 | December 2, 2010 4:54 PM | Report abuse

georges2, you know what they say about assume. I was in the Air Force and my father was a 37 year vet with 2 presidential extensions after 30 yrs; WWII, Korea and Viet Nam. What were you doing in Afganistan, cleaning latrines?

Posted by: jmfromdc | December 2, 2010 4:53 PM | Report abuse

I had absolutely no idea that so many people on welfare read the Washington Post. Amazing! Here's what I'm saying: Obama built this huge debt, but no one on this site seems able to comprehend that. Too much NASCAR? Too much meth? Those of us who WORK for a living are sick and tired of paying for those of you who don't. The rich pay their fare share? THE RICH ARE PAYING MORE THAN THEIR FAIR SHARE. THEY'RE SUPPORTING ALL OF THE LEFTIST WELFARE RECIPIENTS ON THIS SITE!!!

Posted by: georges2 | December 2, 2010 4:52 PM | Report abuse

"While those in the highest income brackets comprise only two to three percent of American taxpayers, economists estimate that they are responsible for 25 percent of national consumer spending."

What a ridiculous thing to support. Are we really expected to fund the excessive self-indulgence of the rich on the backs of the starving unemployed?

We don't need more yacht production, we need to be producing things of which ordinary people have real needs.

Tinkle-down economics is a fraud.

Posted by: lonquest | December 2, 2010 4:52 PM | Report abuse

It does not take a genius to realize who the republicans are, what they represent and their lack of care or concern for the welfare of our country and the American people.
With their goals of destroy our president, win at any cost regardless of the consequences they are well on the path to becoming our country's most dangerous domestic terrorists.

Posted by: kathlenec | December 2, 2010 4:51 PM | Report abuse

The naked greed and selfishness of corrupt Republicans is now on full display for all to see. We'll remember this in 2012.

Posted by: dsrobins | December 2, 2010 4:51 PM | Report abuse

"Democrats should all tried for treason! Democrats are anti-American! Anyone who votes for a Democrat is too lazy to work!" - georges2

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How fantastically dumb. How can rational conservatives claim concern about the extraordinarily large federal deficit and then ardently oppose the single most effective, least economically harmful means of reducing it?

Returning upper-income tax rates to those of the 1990s, themselves already major cuts from Reagan-era levels, will not hurt the economy, and any harm will be greatly outweighed by the reduction in the deficit. The Bush tax cuts for the wealthiest have largely contributed to high-earners' savings and investment accounts, accounts that do relatively little to disburse money into the market and that do almost nothing to create American jobs.

Hedge-fund money rarely leaves the circles of wealthy traders, and the increase in taxes will not be enough to deny investors of the funds necessary to further invest or create small businesses.

This is not about "punishing" the wealthy. For the rich, as non-delerious observers will agree, the American Dream remains strong, and Americans deserve to earn however much they can through legal and licit means. This is about needing to close a massive deficit and fund a national government in a time of economic struggle and multiple wars.

There is nothing I would enjoy more than not to have to pay taxes, but, when federal funding is necessary, government has to attempt to tax its citizens in the least harmful and least painful way possible, while trying to put as much of the cost on the beneficiaries as possible.

Rather than victimized benefactors of the greedy poor, the wealthy have the most reason to finance the federal government: in the past two years, Congress, the Treasury, and the Fed have made extraordinary commitments to shore up those investment markets in which the wealthy hold trillions of dollars. Were it not for government intervention, perhaps millions of these high-income Americans would have seen their holdings slashed in half or by more. To ask them to pay somewhat higher taxes on their additional wealth is extremely reasonable in this case.

Georges2, I am sorry that you are so deluded, and so angry, that you feel the need to fester a petty hatred for millions of hardworking, struggling Americans. Hopefully, the stabilization of our national debt will help to strengthen the economy that can restore their American Dream.

Posted by: Akger117 | December 2, 2010 4:51 PM | Report abuse

It does not take a genius to realize who the republicans are, what they represent and their lack of care or concern for the welfare of our country and the American people.
With their goals of destroy our president, win at any cost regardless of the consequences they are well on the path to becoming our country's most dangerous domestic terrorists.

Posted by: kathlenec | December 2, 2010 4:51 PM | Report abuse

Guess what? The Republicans need us more than we need them on this issue. No compromise means the tax cuts are not extended at all and we get essentially what we want (an increase on the top tax bracket). The republicans are the ones that need to compromise on this issue, not us.

Posted by: hdimig | December 2, 2010 4:50 PM | Report abuse

I'm a willing compromiser. Only defense contractor's should have a new flat tax of 20% applied to their annual sales until the wars are over and paid for. And let the Bush tax cuts continue.

Posted by: Maddogg | December 2, 2010 4:50 PM | Report abuse

I'm a fiscal conservative, and I really don't understand why Republicans are being so stubborn about this. yes, the wealthiest pay the majority of income taxes, but we're talking about raising the income tax rate by 5%(?) on any income over $250,000. So if your family pulls in $500,000 next year, you're going to pay an extra $12,000, or 2.5% of your income. That's $1,000 a month extra in taxes on the $41,600 you're grossing. Boo hoo. I'm no socialist by any stretch, but I'm pretty sure someone making half mill a year can find $1,000 a month somewhere in their budget, especially if he's the same kind of person concerned with the size of our deficit.

Posted by: pswift00 | December 2, 2010 4:50 PM | Report abuse

Hilarious! The people who lost the election on November 2 are showing why they lost the election! Can these jokers be more stupid?

Posted by: georges2
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The neo-fascisr retardicons hate doing anything that might help American citizens. They've sold their heart & soul to the multinational corporations they represent.
Stupidity like this is why the retardicons will only control the house for 2 years.
And Palin is why Obama will get re-elected.

Posted by: GEarlMoore | December 2, 2010 4:49 PM | Report abuse

More delaying tactics from the Democrap party of more, more more. But don't expect liberal Charlie Rangel to pay for it, he owes a heap of income taxes, the hippocrites. No wonder Queen Nancy and her regime were voted OUT. Good ridance, don't let the door hit you in your behinds.

Posted by: mightyheidi | December 2, 2010 4:48 PM | Report abuse

Wake up georges2. Giant corporations and their lackeys in Congress killed the American dream years ago.

Class warfare has been perpetrated against American workers for decades, the reason why poverty and the income gap are at record levels, while corporations are making record profits.

Posted by: gschwartz1 | December 2, 2010 4:48 PM | Report abuse

Hurrah!! Our Nancy has done it again! The millionaires now have 25% of all income and nearly 100% of income increase over the last decade while the middle class has actually lost ground. Restoring the tax rate on millionaires to what it was under Clinton is good for all of us. Clinton tax rates created millions of jobs and real wealth for the middle class. Bush tax cuts cost millions of jobs and destroyed the financial system.
Don't you get it? It is "Demand" side economics that is broken. If there are no customers because the middle class has no money, then no business is going to hire more workers. Businesses already have more inventory than customers. Why produce more when no one has money to buy.
Dick Cheney, George Bush, and Glenn Beck - all millionaires - do NOT need a tax cut. The middle class needs a tax break and this gives it to them. A 700 billion dollar tax cut for millionaires, ALL of it from borrowed money, is insane.

Posted by: abowers1 | December 2, 2010 4:47 PM | Report abuse

Let all Bush tax cuts expire ($3.7 Trillion over 10 years, $6 Trillion over 2012-2022) and then propose new modest middle class tax cuts.

Bush era tax cuts adds $6 trillion to the deficit from 2012 to 2022

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/06/26/AR2010062600222.html

“The Bush tax cuts are really expensive. The tax cuts expire this year. If lawmakers renew all of them, they'd add $6 trillion to the deficit from 2012 to 2022.”

To deal with the deficit, let the tax cuts expire

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/08/01/AR2010080103287.html

Ten years of $2.3 Trillion in tax cuts, job losses and deficits while thousands of American soldiers have been killed and wounded in the Middle East.

Posted by: Airborne82 | December 2, 2010 4:47 PM | Report abuse

Yes, I am glad that they did it! And those blue dogs that voted against are mostly gone, right? Good riddance.

Even if this goes nowhere as far as the Senate, make these Senate crooks go on the record and claim that they will filibuster a bill that calls for keeping tax cuts for the middle class in place.

Will you all stop with this "becoming rich and the American dream"? It's long been dead. The rich do not work hard. They are corrupt crooks - my apologies to the exceptions. That's who the Republicans care about.

Posted by: sharedgum | December 2, 2010 4:46 PM | Report abuse

jmfromdc, are you worried about your welfare check? House Democrats with guts? Wow! If you call this "guts" I'm certainly glad you weren't with me in Afghanistan. I'd be dead now. A better description of these House Democrats is INCREDIBLY STUPID PEOPLE PLAYING THIRD GRADE GAMES!

Posted by: georges2 | December 2, 2010 4:46 PM | Report abuse

188 members of Congress just voted against extending tax cuts to the middle class. How are they going to explain that to their constituents?

Posted by: hooey1 | December 2, 2010 4:46 PM | Report abuse

If you're so true to your journalistic standards the title should read "House passes bill to impose new Obama tax increase to upper income taxpayers" which is obviously true as no one including the middle class is getting any TAX CUT from this administration.

Democrats were never known for cutting anything meaningful for the people - to imply otherwise is simply disingenuous.

Posted by: CJ123 | December 2, 2010 4:45 PM | Report abuse

TO: georges2 who wrote:
“So what the Democrats are saying to all Americans is this: The "American Dream" is no longer alive! Americans should no longer dream big…”

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

What we are saying is that the rich need to pay their fair share of taxes too.

Do you have any other plan as to how you (Republicans) intend to pay for all that money Republicans borrowed for China?

How about that 500 lb. gorilla, you know, that Lie Called the War in Iraq, how are planning to pay for that, by starving the poor and the elderly, or having Americans drop dead in the street because they can’t afford to see a doctor?

I haven’t heard one single Republican talk about how they plan to pay the bills.

Posted by: lindalovejones | December 2, 2010 4:45 PM | Report abuse

"Now, let's be clear: individuals and families earning over those thresholds would, under the proposal, get tax cuts on the amounts under those thresholds. They just wouldn't get an extra tax cut."

Exactly. I seem to recall that those people did just fine under the old rates during the Clinton years. They had no problem buying Buffy that new BMW to put under the Xmas tree to go along with her new Rolex.

Posted by: lcrider1 | December 2, 2010 4:44 PM | Report abuse

jmfromdc, are you worried about your welfare check? House Democrats with guts? Wow! If you call this "guts" I'm certainly glad you weren't with me in Afghanistan. I'd be dead now. A better description of these House Democrats is INCREDIBLY STUPID PEOPLE PLAYING THIRD GRADE GAMES!

Posted by: georges2 | December 2, 2010 4:44 PM | Report abuse

georges2, don't you have powdered wig and britches to try on before you tour Versaille? You sound like a deluded prat...

Posted by: LABC | December 2, 2010 4:44 PM | Report abuse

The Republicans are saying no to the Middle Class. Everyone gets the same tax cut on the first $250,000, so they can't whine about that. They would say no to the Middle Class. It makes it rather evident who they are working for.

Posted by: SarahBB | December 2, 2010 4:44 PM | Report abuse

Now we need to impose a 90% tax rate on all incomes over $250,000 until the wars are over and paid for. This rate will also end financial speculation.

Posted by: Maddogg | December 2, 2010 4:44 PM | Report abuse

Maybe I should cry. georges2 predicts the end of America because every American should works hard to get as rich as possible. I don't know but I guess that georges2 is a very good Christian speaking against poverty.

Posted by: rolandberger | December 2, 2010 4:42 PM | Report abuse

Most House Democrats have guts, can't wait to see Senate Repugnicans filibuster this while starving unemployed citizens. We will see if Senate Democrats and Pres. Obama have a backbone.

Posted by: jmfromdc | December 2, 2010 4:42 PM | Report abuse

Maybe I should cry. georges2 predicts the end of America because every American should works hard to get as rich as possible. I don't know but I guess that georges2 is a very good Christian speaking against poverty.

Posted by: rolandberger | December 2, 2010 4:41 PM | Report abuse

Most House Democrats have guts, can't wait to see Senate Repugnicans filibuster this while starving unemployed citizens. We will see if Senate Democrats and Pres. Obama have a backbone.

Posted by: jmfromdc | December 2, 2010 4:41 PM | Report abuse

Hilarious! The people who lost the election on November 2 are showing why they lost the election! Can these jokers be more stupid?

Posted by: georges2 | December 2, 2010 4:40 PM | Report abuse

So what the Democrats are saying to all Americans is this: The "American Dream" is no longer alive! Americans should no longer dream big. Americans should no longer work as hard as they can, achieve as much as they can, because it doesn't mean anything anymore. The Democrats are saying that making as much money as you can is no longer the American Way, because the Democrats will do everything they can to tax you to death. This is nothing but class warfare! The Democrats are too stupid to understand that the so-called RICH PEOPLE are the movers and shakers of this country. Look at the names in history who haved contributed to the wealth of this nation! Democrats don't want that! They want people on welfare and food stamps. Democrats should all tried for treason! Democrats are anti-American! Anyone who votes for a Democrat is too lazy to work!

Posted by: georges2 | December 2, 2010 4:36 PM | Report abuse

"The proposal would extend the Bush-era tax cuts only to individuals earning $200,000 or less per year and families earning $250,000 or less."

Now, let's be clear: individuals and families earning over those thresholds would, under the proposal, get tax cuts on the amounts under those thresholds. They just wouldn't get an extra tax cut.

Posted by: dut5 | December 2, 2010 4:35 PM | Report abuse

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