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Posted at 1:36 PM ET, 12/ 5/2010

McConnell: Dems will cave on tax cuts

By Matt DeLong and Felicia Sonmez

Sunday Rundown: A quick wrap-up of the Sunday talk shows.

NBC: MEET THE PRESS - McConnell: Dems will cave on tax cuts

Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) predicted that Democrats would give in to Republican demands on extending the Bush-era tax cuts, just one day after Republicans killed a Democratic plan to extend cuts for low- and middle-income Americans. "It's pretty clear now that taxes are not going up on anybody in the middle of this recession," McConnell said. The Kentucky Republican said he has had more conversations with President Obama "in the past two weeks than we've had in the past two years." He referred to WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange as "a high-tech terrorist" and said he should be prosecuted to the full extent of the law. If that doesn't work, McConnell said, the law should be changed. He said he agrees with Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) and will follow his lead on "don't ask, don't tell" repeal. McCain has called for further study of the issue and said the policy should not be changed during a time of war. McConnell said a free-trade pact with South Korea "should go forward" now that an agreement has been reached.

Sen. John Kerry (D-Mass.) said Republicans were "bankrupt" and "fundamentally reckless" to hold an extension of unemployment benefits "hostage" to an extension of upper-income tax cuts. Kerry said WikiLeaks has caused "real damage" with its release of thousands of secret State Department cables, but not to the extent that some have claimed. He said the war in Afghanistan is not Vietnam, and the president is intent on making sure that it does not become the hopeless "mistake" that Kerry protested before Congress in 1971. He said the U.S. can accomplish its goals in Afghanistan by 2014.

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CNN: STATE OF THE UNION - Rangel: Censure was 'embarrassing and painful'

In his first TV interview since being censured by the House earlier this week, New York Democratic Rep. Charlie Rangel acknowledged that he may have been "sloppy" in his bookkeeping and "overzealous in trying to raise money to try to get kids an education," adding that he "relied too heavily" on his chief of staff and accountant. But he maintained that he was not guilty of corruption. He called the censure an "embarrassing and painful experience" and contended that the vote was dictated by political pressures, "especially at a time when the reputation of the Congress is at an all-time low." On his colleagues' censure vote, Rangel said that "if you do anything to look like you're going easy on anybody in Washington, I can understand that feeling back home." He demurred when asked whether there might have been a racial element to the censure vote, saying, "That's the last thing in the world that I would want to discuss because God has been very good to me."

Indiana Republican Sen. Richard Lugar said that he's confident the Senate will be able to tackle the new START treaty during the lame-duck session, and "if we do, the votes are there." On the issue of Afghanistan, Lugar called the country a "culture of survival" and cautioned that the U.S. "should not be naive that these are persons who are likely to extol democratic values such as we would like them to do." He also said that the U.S. should be tougher with North Korea, but rather than threatening the country with military action, pressure can be increased in more indirect ways. Lugar, who faces re-election in 2012, acknowledged that he "could very well" face a more conservative primary challenger but said that he's "well prepared" for such a challenge.

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FOX NEWS SUNDAY - Gingrich 'more inclined to run' in 2012

Sen. Kent Conrad (D-N.D.) called for a debt-reduction summit that includes House and Senate leaders and the White House -- an idea endorsed by Rep. Jeb Hensarling (R-Tex.), who was a member of the presidential debt commission. Conrad praised the debt commission's report, which was released last week, though he said he would prefer it go even further in terms of deficit reduction. Conrad said it is "imperative" that the Bush-era tax cuts be extended for at least the middle class, but said the government will have to pivot in order to focus on controlling the debt. Hensarling said "we don't want no tax increases on nobody," before adding "Now, that may be poor grammar, but it's great economics."

Former House speaker Newt Gingrich said he is "much more inclined to run" for president in 2012 than not run, but said he would not make a decision until the "end of February, beginning of March." He gave incoming House Speaker John Boehner high marks, saying Boehner is "avoiding most of my mistakes." Gingrich said that he would like to change the entire unemployment insurance program "into a worker training program and not give anybody money for doing nothing." The Georgia Republican said WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange is engaged in warfare and terrorism against the United States and called the U.S. government's information-sharing system "stupid." The Obama administration is "so shallow and so amateurish about national security that it is painful and dangerous," Gingrich said.


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CBS: FACE THE NATION - Kyl: No time to finish START in lame duck

Arizona Republican Sen. Jon Kyl and Illinois Democratic Sen. Dick Durbin discussed the agenda for the remainder of Congress' lame-duck session. Both senators said that Congress is likely to tackle the issue of extending the Bush-era tax cuts before the holidays. "It's almost Christmas Eve. I don't think anybody thinks that we can leave this thing hanging," Kyl said. Durbin added: "There's nothing that motivates members of Congress more than the thought of a recess or going home." Kyl also said that a possible extension of the cuts might include an extension of unemployment benefits, and Durbin reiterated his opposition to voting for any permanent tax cut for upper earners.

Kyl also said that there's no time for the Senate to deal with the START treaty during the lame-duck session. "There is not time to do it in the lame duck when you consider all the other things that the Democratic leader wants to do," Kyl said, adding that "no calamity will befall the United States" if the treaty isn't tackled in the coming weeks. Durbin countered that Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) "is not standing as an obstacle to this." Kyl said that he hasn't been holding up the treaty but said that he won't make his views on it clear until he sees how the resolution of ratification turns out. Durbin countered: "We need to give this president the authority to make this world safer."

On the State Department cables leaked by WikiLeaks, Durbin said that he thought the leaks have damaged U.S. national security. Kyl charged that the Obama administration "didn't seem too concerned about the first two dumps" and that it's "only when it starts to embarrass the State Department" that officials began to take WikiLeaks' Julian Assange seriously. "It seems to me that we could've gone after him a long time ago," Kyl said of Assange.

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ABC: THIS WEEK - Clark urges decision on "don't ask, don't tell"

In a roundtable on the military's "don't ask, don't tell" law, Gen. Wesley Clark urged a decision on the law following the release of the military's report on the policy this week. "What I got out of the testimony is, if you're going to make the decision, make the decision, get it over with, take us out of the middle of the game, and then give us six months or so to do the training and education and get ready so the leadership can handle this," Clark said. "I think that when Americans are in combat together, they pull together on a task, they work together based on a common culture of being an American and a commitment to the unit. And I think that's what's overriding in this case. And I think that's the message behind both the survey and the majority of the chiefs' testimony," he later added.

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CSPAN: NEWSMAKERS - St. Louis Fed chief: Jobs report 'disappointing'

Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis President James Bullard called the latest jobs report, in which the U.S. economy added just 39,000 and the unemployment rate ticked up to 9.8 percent, "disappointing." The report "was a little bit out of context from the other numbers we've seen on the economy which seem to indicate a little bit more strength," Bullard said. He predicted that the unemployment rate would drop "only slowly next year," but said "we're in good shape for 2011" despite the poor job numbers.

Bullard defended the Fed's recent decision to purchase more Treasury debt and warned of the risk of deflation like the Japanese economy saw in the 1990s. "The U.S. policy should strive to avoid this possibility," Bullard said.

A previous version of this post incorrectly stated that Sen. Kent Conrad (D-N.D.) is retiring at the end of his current term. Conrad is planning on running for re-election in 2012.

By Matt DeLong and Felicia Sonmez  | December 5, 2010; 1:36 PM ET
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1. Mr. Obama Has Been Always Supportive Of Bush Deficit Creator Tax Cut Exactly As Republicans Agenda.

2. Mr. Obama Pushed and Removed """" Public Option From Health Care """" , Forced and tricked Democrats Congress and Senate with the Help Of the People Like "" Blanche L. Lincoln """"""" Exactly As Republicans Asked and Agenda """""""

3. Mr. Obama Forced Senate and Congress to be """ Delayed Health Care Activation Until 2014 """" ,Gave Republicans By Design Around 5 Years to Repeal and Cancel it, """"""" Exactly As Republicans Asked and Agenda """""""

4. Mr. Obama Guantanamo, 2 years later is not Closed yet t""""""" Exactly As Republicans Asked and Agenda """""""

5. Mr. Obama .Health Care, It Has Been All the Way Water Down """"""" Exactly As Republicans Asked and Agenda """""""

6. Mr. Obama Never Created Specific and Effective Program Of Job Creation for New Generation and Middle Class.
Instead Spent All His Time Dumping Money To Banks, GM, GoldMan, """"""" Exactly As Bush Republicans Asked and Agenda """""""

7. Mr. Obama JOBS, Instead of Creating Effective JOB Creation Program, Mr. Obama Dumped Money to Wall Street, Banks,
Financial Firms, Witch Did Not Create JOBS, And the Money From U.S.A Bank Went """"""" Offshore That Where the American Jobs Are """"""" Exactly As Republicans Asked and Agenda """""""

8. Mr. Obama On American JOBS Outsource, Did Nothing Absolutely Nothing mean NADA to Stop """""""""" Shipping American Jobs Offshore and Revers The Bush Republicans JOBS OutSourcing Legislation S.1637
""""""" Exactly As Republicans Asked and Agenda """""""

9.Mr. Obama On Jobs Doing Nothing , Bush Republicans JOBS OutSourcing Support Legislation S.1637 is Stil there Witch Every Day Ships American Jobs Offshore.
""""""""" Senate Outsourcing Legislation S.1637 S.1637 S.1637 S.1637 S.1637 S.1637 S.1637 S.1637 S.1637 S.1637 S.1637 S.1637 S.1637 """"""""""""""

Posted by: stop-outsourcers | December 10, 2010 11:43 AM | Report abuse

 
1. Mr. Obama Has Been Always Supportive Of Bush Deficit Creator Tax Cut Exactly As Republicans Agenda.

2. Mr. Obama Pushed and Removed """" Public Option From Health Care """" , Forced and tricked Democrats Congress and Senate with the Help Of the People Like "" Blanche L. Lincoln """"""" Exactly As Republicans Asked and Agenda """""""

3. Mr. Obama Forced Senate and Congress to be """ Delayed Health Care Activation Until 2014 """" ,Gave Republicans By Design Around 5 Years to Repeal and Cancel it, """"""" Exactly As Republicans Asked and Agenda """""""

4. Mr. Obama Guantanamo, 2 years later is not Closed yet """"""" Exactly As Republicans Asked and Agenda """""""

5. Mr. Obama .Health Care, It Has Been All the Way Water Down """"""" Exactly As Republicans Asked and Agenda """""""

6. Mr. Obama Never Created Specific and Effective Program Of Job Creation for New Generation and Middle Class.
Instead Spent All His Time Dumping Money To Banks, GM, GoldMan , """"""" Exactly As Bush Republicans Asked and Agenda """""""

7. Mr. Obama JOBS, Instead of Creating Effective JOB Creation Program, Mr. Obama Dumped Money to Wall Street, Banks,
Financial Firms, Witch Did Not Create JOBS, And the Money From U.S.A Bank Went """"""" Offshore That Where the American Jobs Are """"""" Exactly As Republicans Asked and Agenda """""""

8. Mr. Obama On American JOBS Outsource, Did Nothing Absolutely Nothing mean NADA to Stop """""""""" Shipping American Jobs Offshore and Revers The Bush Republicans JOBS OutSourcing Legislation S.1637
""""""" Exactly As Republicans Asked and Agenda """""""

9.Mr. Obama On Jobs Doing Nothing , Bush Republicans JOBS OutSourcing Support Legislation S.1637 is Stil there Witch Every Day Ships American Jobs Offshore.
""""""""" Senate Outsourcing Legislation S.1637 S.1637 S.1637 S.1637 S.1637 S.1637 S.1637 S.1637 S.1637 S.1637 S.1637 S.1637 S.1637 """"""""""""""

Posted by: stop-outsourcers | December 10, 2010 11:41 AM | Report abuse

I am more concerned that twenty, and maybe fifty families, will not be able to feed and shelter themselves than that a super wealthy person ( Rush, for example, will get over a million back ) will not be able to ( comfortably ) buy a new yacht, monster house, or a year of luxury golf forays.

What Mitch McConnell says, not withstanding, do most of the super rich really want to put a tax cut for themselves on the backs of the ( wish they were ) working class or their children - who will then eventually have to pay the Chinese?

Posted by: mungmung | December 8, 2010 11:18 AM | Report abuse

McConnell either doesn't know the definition of a recession or he is lying to get political points. We are coming out of a terrible downturn--the worse since the 1930s--but I hope that he knows that the recession is officially over. That's true by definition, because recessions are defined in terms of GDP growth rates, not the unemployment rate, which always lags behind GDP growth. That certainly doesn't mean that the pain is over. It means only that he is playing fast and loose with a technical term that has a very precise meaning. As for McConnell's statement that that the Dems would give in on the tax cuts, of course that is correct. He and his buddies were holding the least advantaged members of society hostage, by saying that they would allow the unemployed to go without any safety net unless Obama agreed to tax cuts for even the very richest of the rich. There would be no compromise; they would stop everything unless even those making $1mil+/year continued to receive their Bush-era "temporary" tax cuts. As distasteful as it was, Obama was right to ensure that the unemployed could continue to put food on the table, even if the millionaires continued to get their tax cuts. McConnell's twist about "not raising taxes during a recession" doesn't change that. I hope that Obama plays hardball with these extortionists during the next two years, and I hope that the American public understands politics and basic macroeconomics enough to realize what happened and who is to blame. Obama did the right thing in dealing with blackmail, in order to protect those who cannot defend themselves.

Posted by: rbharris50 | December 7, 2010 6:05 PM | Report abuse

McConnell is a disgrace to our human race and the biggest hypocrit in Congress. McConnell could careless about the deficit when it comes to the wealthiest individuals that many say they do NOT need and/or want the tax cut becuase they want to help cut the deficit. McConnell being two faced just wants to brag about how he is punking our president. McConnell needs to know he is the PUNK and many of us do NOT like the way he has disrespected our president. President Obama may cave to this disgrace thing (McConnell) but it is only because president Obama cares about all Americans and idiots like McConnell will never understand this principle of compassion. McConnell should NOT be re-elected as dog catcher let alone back in Congress. I believe that president Obama will get his turn to put this punk McConnell in his place. God is with president Obama so this idiot - McConnell -needs to know God will NOT let him (McConnell) win in the long run.

Posted by: netstoy | December 6, 2010 6:00 PM | Report abuse

All I have to say is this:
When is Obama going to show some guts and start acting like a Franklin D Roosevelt.

Cowtowing to the McConnells and Boehners and all others of the party of NO accomplishes nothing. Actions speak louder than words!

President Obama it is time for you to be daring!

Posted by: au contraire. | December 6, 2010 2:17 PM | Report abuse

Hello all you Dems I have some news that was not in the weekly Obama talking points memo so this will be new to all of you. You would like your president to be like Robin Hood steal from the rich to give to the poor (you). Instead he steals from the middle class and gives the money to his rich friends G.E. Goldmann Sachs etc. Why do you think he fought so hard to keep what he really spent our money on from the public? Did anyone here lose their homes? I wonder how many of Obama's rich friends at Goldmann Sachs lost their homes? Yeah you stupid Dems want someone to pay a dime more in taxes? Why so Obama can use our money to bye more votes from Wall Street, Big Biz, Big Oil, and organized crime (the unions) you must be the dumbest people on the face of the earth to still support the lying thief you call president.

Posted by: Loxinabox | December 6, 2010 1:51 PM | Report abuse

the fact is that all americans even the wealthy get the so called middle class tax cut it's the extra tax cut for those making over 250,000 that i am opposed to. they already have tax breaks for just their group of earners and we shouldn't have to increase the retirement age to 69 or put a freeze on federal workers to pay for it.

Posted by: blinwilly | December 6, 2010 9:50 AM | Report abuse

the fact is that all americans even the wealthy get the so called middle class tax cut it's the extra tax cut for those making over 250,000 that i am opposed to. they already have tax breaks for just their group of earners and we shouldn't have to increase the retirement age to 69 or put a freeze on federal workers to pay for it.

Posted by: blinwilly | December 6, 2010 9:47 AM | Report abuse

McConnell has never been right on anything but this time he will be correct. The democrats cave to Republican demands for tax cuts to the rich. But before you call the democrats cowards you should know that the tax cuts to the rich also have their name on them. You see most democrats in Congress are also millionaires so they are voting for a tax cut for themselves, first and foremost.

Posted by: SanchosR | December 6, 2010 9:41 AM | Report abuse

In my personal opinion, Kyl is an easy comparison to the word traitor. He's simply a trator to his oath of office. He looks to have enough gray hair to remember thestupidity of "duck and cover" and the fear that was relieved with the beginnings and continuation of START. But, since some opf his contributors have defense investments, he's trying to wrap himself in the flag and hold START hostage.

Combine him with McConnell and we have the typical terrorist tactics that these two proudly trumpeted, Ameica doesn't negotiate about, in getting us into Georgy Dubbya war. Arron Burr and Benedict Arnoldwould be proud of these two.

Posted by: JohninConnecticut | December 6, 2010 7:42 AM | Report abuse

"If we can't get the wealthy to pay even a slightly raised rate, and we can't lower government spending, how can we ever expect to lower the deficit? On the backs of middle class grandchildren?"
Posted by: postfan1

Seems its been decided, the deficit will be lowered on the backs of the federal employee, all 2 million of them, just so we can have a tax cut for the top 2%. Welcome to republican America. Asking for any less is treason in their sick minds.

Posted by: Fate1 | December 5, 2010 11:53 PM | Report abuse

If this man is blatantly saying that the Dems will cave on the tax cuts, and then they actually cave, then something is wrong with them. That would be one of the strangest things I will ever see.

Posted by: jt1015 | December 5, 2010 11:50 PM | Report abuse

It is the workers against the wealthy and the elite ... There is a long hard fight ahead and we (workers) are way way behind!!!

Posted by: cautious | December 5, 2010 10:42 PM | Report abuse

The Republicans cannot have it both ways: deficit reduction and tax cuts. It seems that they would prefer to give the superwealthy tax cuts under the guise that these guys will grow the economy. If this were true, we would not have lived the depressed economic years under Bush. The tax program under Bill Clinton is the only program since Jimmy Carter that has a proven track record of deficit reduction while growing the economy.

Posted by: EarlC | December 5, 2010 10:39 PM | Report abuse

And the Democrats wonder why I won't donate another penny to them! What is the point? We can have Republicans in power, who crow about helping the wealthy at the expense of the middle class. Or we can have the Democrats who do the exact same thing, but instead of crowing about it they whine and cry about it, saying they don't LIKE doing it, but they have to. Ultimately it's the same result. The wealthy get subsidized by the middle class. If both parties end up doing it, I'd rather not hear the whining and crying and pretending that they're being forced into it. And I'll keep my political contributions in my own pocket from now on. When there's a party actually willing to fight against the Republicans, I'll donate to them.

Posted by: gasmonkey | December 5, 2010 10:12 PM | Report abuse

Too bad we can't get any adults in Washington.

If we can't get the wealthy to pay even a slightly raised rate, and we can't lower government spending, how can we ever expect to lower the deficit?

On the backs of middle class grandchildren?

Posted by: postfan1 | December 5, 2010 9:51 PM | Report abuse

TAX CUTS FOR THE WEALTHY DO NOT CREATE JOBS! If that is not obvious by now, you have not been paying attention. The wealthiest Americans are paying the lowest rate of taxes since the late 1920s.

Posted by: fishman2 | December 5, 2010 9:49 PM | Report abuse

"The fact is that there are jobs available but they pay less than the unemployment check or involve work that they don't want to do, so many people refuse to take them (and they lie on the response questionnaire for the state unemployment dept). They would prefer to sit around, mooch off relatives rent-free, and dream that their old job will come back and refuse to re-train for another career."
Posted by: coakl

Lemma guess ... you have never lost your job. You have never had to look for a job in these bad times. You have never had to choose between your kids clothes, food, medicine or school materials and your home. You have never been in the place many Americans now find themselves. Consider yourself lucky. Consider yourself deluded. Consider yourself a numbskull for not knowing what else is happening in the world. And God help you if you lose your job. You seem to be the type that, when you lose your job, will just sit there and whine, then ask how this could happen to YOU. Then you will start blaming people. And when you realize you are just like the other millions in the same situation you will go quiet, realizing you now find yourself the target of your own rhetoric, who sits around, mooches off relatives rent-free, and dreams that their old job will come back.

God help you when you, and anyone, who loses their job.

Posted by: Fate1 | December 5, 2010 8:55 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: coakl: "The fact is that there are jobs available but they pay less than the unemployment check or involve work that they don't want to do, so many people refuse to take them"
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On a macro basis, this is very incorrect. Last week an airline advertised 100 positions. Over 1000 applied before they stopped taking apps (24 hours later). In my state, there are an average of 150 apps from unemployed for every job offer made public. Real UM is ~18% and climbing. It is BAD out there. I know people out of work for 2 years who have lost everything, house, car, savings, spouse. The same thing is happening as when FDR ran the same losing program that Obie copied. It WILL get worse before it gets better.

Posted by: illogicbuster | December 5, 2010 8:42 PM | Report abuse

Republicans = Pure evil

They are demanding tax cuts for the rich or they will allow tax increases for the middle class and the poor. They argue for wars yet at the same time ask for tax cuts on the wealthy. Next thing you know we have deficits and debt then they turn and blame the Democrats. Reminds me of those kids who were going nowhere in life in the school yard.

Look, the republicans are against government. They do not want to govern and do not believe government should govern. Why do people elect government officials who have no desire, and a rank inability, to govern?

Posted by: Fate1 | December 5, 2010 8:41 PM | Report abuse

And when would it stop? 150 weeks, 200 weeks? 5 years?

The fact is that there are jobs available but they pay less than the unemployment check or involve work that they don't want to do, so many people refuse to take them (and they lie on the response questionnaire for the state unemployment dept). They would prefer to sit around, mooch off relatives rent-free, and dream that their old job will come back and refuse to re-train for another career.

Or people refuse to move to a different town or state where job prospects are better. That's what people did during the Great Depression: they REALLY looked for work. Unemployment rates are below 8.1% in 22 other states. Go to www.bls.gov/lau and look at the list on the right-hand side. It's not 12.4% EVERYWHERE.

Denmark found that people on extended unemployment benefits suddenly found jobs just before their benefits expired. As a result, Denmark reduced its benefits program in half. New York Times summarized the Danish findings here: Why Denmark Is Shrinking Its Social Safety Net, http://economix.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/08/16/why-denmark-is-shrinking-its-social-safety-net

We need to cut off these benefits before they become just another welfare check. Personal responsibility. After 99 weeks of free checks, the problem is you, not the economy.

Posted by: coakl | December 5, 2010 8:33 PM | Report abuse

i don't care who caves in, just get it done.
do it for the unemployed...

i don't care about the tax cuts for millionaires. It's been that way for 10 years....so what.

Posted by: TheBabeNemo | December 5, 2010 8:23 PM | Report abuse

Everytime I see a picture of McConnell I shudder. He looks like a corpse that some mortician "painted up" before he put him the coffin except for one thing, while looking at the corpse it magically opened it's eyes....what an eerie look.

As for Durbin, he's no Democrat, nor does he care about the common Joe. You allow the tax cuts to be extended, the republicans win in 2012, and those tax cuts become permanent...not too hard to see the future because Obama is going to be a one termer.

Posted by: bigisle | December 5, 2010 8:21 PM | Report abuse

we are NOT in good shape for 2011...

write your Senators and House Reps from your state....tell them to stop holding extensions of unemployment as hostage for the Bush tax cuts!

This week is doomsday week.

Posted by: TheBabeNemo | December 5, 2010 8:20 PM | Report abuse

Caving and cheating= 2 virtues of a dem

Posted by: houston123 | December 5, 2010 8:18 PM | Report abuse

Though it's very, very difficult to achieve a level of duplicitous, semi-conscious dementia like that of a Dick Cheney or W., McConnell certainly is almost there.

Posted by: StevenK3 | December 5, 2010 8:01 PM | Report abuse

If DADT is not to be changed during wartime, it will never be changed because Bush launched us into perpetual war against some unknown entity called terrorism.

Posted by: fudador | December 5, 2010 7:52 PM | Report abuse

Democrats are up against the failure of liberalism.....and it is all they have had for a century.....

Marxism morphed into liberalism.....redistribution is only a winning idea if you are indigent.......or want someone else to pay for your "social conscience"

....class warfare is so Democrat.

Posted by: georgedixon1 | December 5, 2010 7:17 PM | Report abuse

Golly, guys. Have to have cuts to balance unemployment extensions, but no need to balance the cost of tax cut extensions? What's wrong with this picture?

Holding up the people's business to work out a "compromise" on tax cuts is despicable.

Agreeing to such a compromise against one's principles is despicable.

My heart just can't bleed for the over $250K crowd since they are the ones who can hire the accountants to shelter much of their income. They should try being retired at under $40k with no hiding place down there. And yes, Virginia, we do pay taxes!

Run out the clock and let the tax cuts expire. Watch out fine feathered legislators head our the door Dec. 17th for a Merry Christmas with a fine fattened turkey and an automatic raise to look forward to.

As for the rest of us: " Are there no prisons? Are there no workhouses? If they would rather die,' said Scrooge, 'they had better do it, and decrease the surplus population.'"

Posted by: wallace2 | December 5, 2010 7:12 PM | Report abuse

Golly, guys. Have to have cuts to balance unemployment extensions, but no need to balance the cost of tax cut extensions? What's wrong with this picture?

Holding up the people's business to work out a "compromise" on tax cuts is despicable.

Agreeing to such a compromise against one's principles is despicable.

My heart just can't bleed for the over $250K crowd since they are the ones who can hire the accountants to shelter much of their income. They should try being retired at under $40k with no hiding place down there. And yes, Virginia, we do pay taxes!

Run out the clock and let the tax cuts expire. Watch out fine feathered legislators head our the door Dec. 17th for a Merry Christmas with a fine fattened turkey and an automatic raise to look forward to.

As for the rest of us: " Are there no prisons? Are there no workhouses? If they would rather die,' said Scrooge, 'they had better do it, and decrease the surplus population.'"

Posted by: wallace2 | December 5, 2010 7:11 PM | Report abuse

Golly, guys. Have to have cuts to balance unemployment extensions, but no need to balance the cost of tax cut extensions? What's wrong with this picture?

Holding up the people's business to work out a "compromise" on tax cuts is despicable.

Agreeing to such a compromise against one's principles is despicable.

My heart just can't bleed for the over $250K crowd since they are the ones who can hire the accountants to shelter much of their income. They should try being retired at under $40k with no hiding place down there. And yes, Virginia, we do pay taxes!

Run out the clock and let the tax cuts expire. Watch out fine feathered legislators head our the door Dec. 17th for a Merry Christmas with a fine fattened turkey and an automatic raise to look forward to.

As for the rest of us: " Are there no prisons? Are there no workhouses? If they would rather die,' said Scrooge, 'they had better do it, and decrease the surplus population.'"

Posted by: wallace2 | December 5, 2010 7:10 PM | Report abuse

...
If we want to have tax policy affect jobs, then let's have it directly tied to jobs, not to individuals in the hope that they will create jobs.

Posted by: asm_ith | December 5, 2010 5:40 PM
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Amen to that.

I think to get the deduction the recipient should have to hunt for unemployed people to sign a sheet saying they got 15 minutes of good advice. The unemployed, after all have to look for jobs that are often not being offered (and record the search) as a condition of getting their "insurance".

Posted by: gannon_dick | December 5, 2010 7:02 PM | Report abuse

Well, there you go again.
Repubs conspiring with dems to add unacceptable debt onto the public's plate.
Repubs, did you not learn anything in 2008? And dems, surely you heard us speak just one month ago.
Yet you persist, thinking that we voters will overlook the mounting debt, in return for all the 'free' goodies.
Well, you were wrong then, and you're wrong now.
See you in 2012, and don't bother asking for our vote.

Posted by: mtpeaks | December 5, 2010 7:01 PM | Report abuse

I am fed up with Democrats rolling over. This is insane. Just one guy...just one....needs to walk up to McConnell, punch him square in the nose, and piss on his head before walking over his loathsome, filthy body on the way into chambers.

Posted by: fmamstyle | December 5, 2010 6:56 PM | Report abuse

"The Bush tax cuts were designed to get rid of a government surplus, not to help the economy, so why should they be extended now, when the surplus is gone, gone, and long gone. This is more Voodoo economics."
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CJ - so then the rationale was "to get rid of a government surplus" through a tax cut aka transfer to wealth to the rich? Not to stimulate the economy through "trickle down"? (not that it did). Just "hey, lookie here, I found some unattended taxpayer money - let's pass it on to our friends!"

Explains a lot!

Posted by: shadowmagician | December 5, 2010 6:36 PM | Report abuse

If Obama caves to the GOP again, he will lose his base. We need a Democrat with balls to step up in 2012. Jim Moran could be the guy.

Posted by: wiz_fan | December 5, 2010 6:32 PM | Report abuse

Hey Mitch!

Come out of the closet and say that!!

You nasty little *itch.

Posted by: angelos_peter | December 5, 2010 6:18 PM | Report abuse

If that true, then once again the rich and powerful show they are the ones who are running the country. The middle class is just here to keep them rich.

Posted by: lddoyle2002 | December 5, 2010 6:15 PM | Report abuse

My question is simple:
How much are these Republican members of Congress saving on their own personal taxes,
especially Senator Mitch McConnell who is one of the richest members of Congress.
It is interesting that papers such as The Guardian call it like it is, where our own papers and media are sadly lacking in posing this question and researching the facts.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/cifamerica/2010/dec/02/taxandspending-us-politics

Posted by: chrysannex | December 5, 2010 6:09 PM | Report abuse

The rich are getting what they paid for in the GOP.

Posted by: tinyjab40 | December 5, 2010 5:56 PM | Report abuse

MICH MC CONNELL A RICH MANS GOLDEN GOOSE

MITCH MC CONNELL--- MC CONNELL MAY THE CHRISTMAS GOOSE IN 2012

I VOTED TO CUT SPENDING 2010

I WILL VOTE TO CUT LYING REPUBLICANS IN 2012

Posted by: theoldmansays | December 5, 2010 5:52 PM | Report abuse

MICH MC CONNELL A RICH MANS GOLDEN GOOSE

MITCH MC CONNELL--- MC CONNELL MAY THE CHRISTMAS GOOSE IN 2012

I VOTED TO CUT SPENDING 2010

I WILL VOTE TO CUT LYING REPUBLICANS IN 2012

Posted by: theoldmansays | December 5, 2010 5:49 PM | Report abuse

MICH MC CONNELL A RICH MANS GOLDEN GOOSE

MITCH MC CONNELL--- MC CONNELL MAY THE CHRISTMAS GOOSE IN 2012

I VOTED TO CUT SPENDING 2010

I WILL VOTE TO CUT LYING REPUBLICANS IN 2012

Posted by: theoldmansays | December 5, 2010 5:47 PM | Report abuse

McConnell certainly shows what he thinks of compromise and bipartisanship. His view of compromise is unidirectional, i.e., the Democrats must agree to do EXACTLY what he wants. At that point, you have bipartisanship because both sides will have agreed to the same thing.

The Republican argument about not letting taxes increase for anyone during a recession is total BS. If the economy was doing well, they would argue that you don't want to increase taxes because it might hurt the economy and send it into recession. In other words, they believe there are no economic conditions which would argue for raising taxes on millionaires. They really have no evidence to support their position, and there is plenty of evidence that the contrary that the higher rate would not hurt the economy, which was doing just fine at those rates during the Clinton era.

Another problem with their argument is that the individuals who would benefit from keep the upper end tax rates low won't actually hire anyone with the supposed tax savings, and they won't fire anyone if they had to pay an additional 3+% on the income over $250K. If we want to have tax policy affect jobs, then let's have it directly tied to jobs, not to individuals in the hope that they will create jobs.

Posted by: asm_ith | December 5, 2010 5:40 PM | Report abuse

I would hope that ALL middle income and low income people, who were STUPID ENOUGH to be CONNED into voting AGAINST THEMSELVES and FOR the SELFISH, WEALTHY, GREEDY Republicans, take PERMANENT note of this UNPRINCIPLED hijacking, which is SO VERY TYPICAL of these lowest of human beings!

Posted by: Maerzie | December 5, 2010 5:36 PM | Report abuse

I, for one, will not forget that Speaker-Designate Boehner thinks extending my tax cut is "chicken crap". I've also given up Democratic leaders who pay lip service to standing up for working folks, but keep their hands out for campagin contributions from Wall Stree and Big Corporations. It's time for a new political party in American.

Posted by: BBear1 | December 5, 2010 5:32 PM | Report abuse

Hear that Dems? Going to put your tails
between your legs and run to the bushes?
You seem to be very good at this.

OR are you going to grow some stones and
fight these obstructionists?

Let the tax cuts expire - BLAME THE
REPUBLICANS FOR THIS -- THEY ARE THE
ONES WHO HAVE DESTROYED OUR COUNTRY,
HATE AMERICA, HAVE NO COMPASSION FOR
ANYONE OTHER THAN THEIR RICH CORPORATE/
LOBBYIST PALS.

Let the tax cuts expire - stand up
for a change Dems.

Posted by: Sirius2 | December 5, 2010 5:27 PM | Report abuse

Most of the Republican Congresspeople are simply GREEDY, SELFISH excuses for human beings. To hold up unemployment benefits for people who can't even find jobs just to give the very highest 2% income selfish INFANTS of our country their "candy suckers" is as LOW as anyone can go! ESPECIALLY when it's the REPUBLICANS who DOUBLED the national debt, AND who PROFIT from our jobs being gone to slave-labor countries! The REPUBLICAN SELFISHNESS and COMPLETE lack of consideration for their constituents is DISGUSTING and NAUSEATING!

Posted by: Maerzie | December 5, 2010 5:26 PM | Report abuse

Hear that Dems? Going to put your tails
between your legs and run to the bushes?
You seem to be very good at this.

OR are you going to grow some stones and
fight these obstructionists?

Let the tax cuts expire - BLAME THE
REPUBLICANS FOR THIS -- THEY ARE THE
ONES WHO HAVE DESTROYED OUR COUNTRY,
HATE AMERICA, HAVE NO COMPASSION FOR
ANYONE OTHER THAN THEIR RICH CORPORATE/
LOBBYIST PALS.

Let the tax cuts expire - stand up
for a change Dems.

Posted by: Sirius2 | December 5, 2010 5:24 PM | Report abuse

Do the Republicans have no shame? Here they are protecting the bank accounts of the nation's wealthiest 2% of billionaires and millionaires and blowing a $170 billion hole in our deficit. And they expect the middle class to not notice? I'll never vote for a Republican again.

Posted by: jay_casey | December 5, 2010 5:23 PM | Report abuse

I say we give the tax cut to the rich to the unemployed. The rich have produced not one job during this recession, which they were instrumental in causing with their Wall street speculating. They've had billions coming in, kept for themselves. McConnell can deliver the unemployment checks. What a rotten bunch the Republicans are.
Be warned, Pres Obama.

Posted by: dudh | December 5, 2010 5:08 PM | Report abuse

I think the Democrats should call McConnell's bluff and let the Bush Tax Cuts expire, like Clinton did for Gingrich's government shutdown.

I haven't heard one economist explain that tax cuts in a recession stimulates the economy. In fact people are more likely to save a tax cut than spend it, because those who are hurting and need it the most won't get peanuts anyway.

Keynes advocated government spending in a recession to stimulate the economy not more tax cuts.

The Bush tax cuts were designed to get rid of a government surplus, not to help the economy, so why should they be extended now, when the surplus is gone, gone, and long gone. This is more Voodoo economics.

It would be better to start from scratch and pay for any new tax cuts rather than give money to people who still have a job while people without go hungry.

Posted by: cjherzfeld@verizon.net | December 5, 2010 5:04 PM | Report abuse

McConnell is vile.

Posted by: sed81650 | December 5, 2010 4:48 PM | Report abuse

This is the first statement or act by Sen. Mitch McConnell with which I agree. The Democrats, my party, will cave because that is what today's Democrats do.
Oh, for the good, old days (before my time) of FDR: "I'm an old-time campaigner, and I love a good fight!"
Now we get Obama bargaining away his own positions and principles instead of standing and fighting.

Posted by: jimsteinberg1 | December 5, 2010 4:33 PM | Report abuse

"...Republicans killed a Democratic plan to extend cuts for low- and middle-income Americans..."

Yes they did. Will they pay a political price? They should.

Posted by: ancient_mariner | December 5, 2010 4:09 PM | Report abuse

How can you tell Mitch McConnell is lying?


His lips are moving.


What a vile, disgusting, two-faced snake this man is.

Posted by: StevenK3 | December 5, 2010 3:58 PM | Report abuse

I said this six months ago, the DINOs will lose because they have been bullied into believing that their center-right is the extreme left.
Obama is just concerned about his re-election, and will do anything to avoid looking partisan.
This spells a rout of the DINOs in 2012.

What the DINOs should do is let the tax cuts expire, and since they are in control of the Senate, demand a vote for new tax cuts for the middle-class in the new session.

Repeatedly

Let the Republicans filibuster tax cuts over and over again.

At worst we pay off some of the deficit, at best the Dems get what they wanted.

Posted by: HumanSimpleton | December 5, 2010 3:18 PM | Report abuse

I said this six months ago, the DINOs will lose because they have been bullied into believing that their center-right is the extreme left.
Obama is just concerned about his re-election, and will do anything to avoid looking partisan.
This spells a rout of the DINOs in 2012.

What the DINOs should do is let the tax cuts expire, and since they are in control of the Senate, demand a vote for new tax cuts for the middle-class in the new session.

Repeatedly

Let the Republicans filibuster tax cuts over and over again.

At worst we pay off some of the deficit, at best the Dems get what they wanted.

Posted by: HumanSimpleton | December 5, 2010 3:16 PM | Report abuse

When will Obama learn. Let the rates expire. You have the republicans over the barrel on this, not the other way around. If the tax rates expire, they are on record as voting against a reasonable tax cut for the middle class. Do not cave to a threat. Make them squirm by letting them expire. I bet they'll come around if you do.

Posted by: hdimig | December 5, 2010 2:29 PM | Report abuse

Democrats will cave. Obama capitulated Friday and flew out of town. But Republicans have also caved. To get more Federal spending (the tax cuts are spending), Republicans must agree to another huge Federal "stimulus" Program. A bigger Federal Govt. to run the program too.

No one inside the Beltway really worries about the deficit. Only the Chinese are worried and they are raising the interest rates on those risky loans to the USA.

Posted by: wmboyd | December 5, 2010 2:27 PM | Report abuse

Of course the Dems will cave in to the pigs. That's why they lost in 2010. Gutless, spineless wonders.

Posted by: mongolovesheriff | December 5, 2010 2:23 PM | Report abuse

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