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Posted at 2:59 PM ET, 12/20/2010

Haley Barbour: I don't remember the civil rights era being that bad

By Matt DeLong

The Fix called attention this morning to Haley Barbour's defense of his experience as a GOP lobbyist in the Weekly Standard's new profile of the Mississippi governor and potential 2012 candidate. But buried toward the end of the piece, the 63-year-old Barbour makes some more-eyebrow-raising comments in describing his home town of Yazoo City, Miss., during the civil rights era. As writer Andrew Ferguson describes the exchange:

Both Mr. Mott and Mr. Kelly had told me that Yazoo City was perhaps the only municipality in Mississippi that managed to integrate the schools without violence. I asked Haley Barbour why he thought that was so.

"Because the business community wouldn't stand for it," he said. "You heard of the Citizens Councils? Up north they think it was like the KKK. Where I come from it was an organization of town leaders. In Yazoo City they passed a resolution that said anybody who started a chapter of the Klan would get their ass run out of town. If you had a job, you'd lose it. If you had a store, they'd see nobody shopped there. We didn't have a problem with the Klan in Yazoo City."
In interviews Barbour doesn't have much to say about growing up in the midst of the civil rights revolution. "I just don't remember it as being that bad," he said. "I remember Martin Luther King came to town, in '62. He spoke out at the old fairground and it was full of people, black and white."

Barbour said he went to the King speech, but couldn't hear very well and "paid more attention to the girls than to King."

While others have held up Yazoo City's experience as a model for school integration, Barbour's critics have jumped on his assertion that he doesn't recall race relations in Mississippi in the early 1960s as being "that bad," as well as his praise for Citizens Councils.

This isn't the first time Barbour has come under fire for his recollection of the civil rights era. During a recent interview with the conservative magazine Human Events, Barbour suggested that segregation was over by the time he went to college at Ole Miss in the mid-1960s and that the South's shift from Democratic to Republican dominance was not related to desegregation -- an assertion that Post columnist Eugene Robinson called the "biggest load of revisionist nonsense about race, politics and the South that I've ever heard." (Read a somewhat different account of life at Ole Miss from one of Barbour's black classmates here.)

UPDATED at 3:29 p.m.: Barbour spokesman Dan Turner has responded to the uproar over the governor's comments in a fairly combative interview with TPM's Eric Kleefeld.

"You're trying to paint the governor as a racist," [Turner] said. "And nothing could be further from the truth." [...]

So, I asked Turner, does Barbour have any comment on the Citizen Council movement's basis in white supremacy, and its work of launching economic boycotts to cut off employment and business for African-Americans who became active for civil rights -- including that notable occasion in Yazoo City?
"Gov. Barbour did not comment on the Citizens Council movement's history," Turner responded. "He commented on the business community in Yazoo City, Mississippi."

David Halberstam wrote about the Citizens Council movement for Commentary in 1956, including this anecdote about the Yazoo City Citizens Council:

"Look," said Nick Roberts of the Yazoo City Citizens Council, explaining why 51 of 53 Negroes who had signed an integration petition withdrew their names, "if a man works for you, and you believe in something, and that man is working against it and undermining it, why you don't want him working for you -- of course you don't."
In Yazoo City, in August 1955, the Council members fired signers of the integration petition, or prevailed upon other white employers to get them fired. But the WCC continues to deny that it uses economic force: all the Council did in Yazoo City was to provide information (a full-page ad in the local weekly listing the "offenders"); spontaneous public feeling did the rest.

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This post has been updated to clarify Barbour's age and when he attended Ole Miss.

By Matt DeLong  | December 20, 2010; 2:59 PM ET
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My comments mirror/paraphrase another person's comments. Haley Barbour should know better. When it comes to the issue of race he should know that he simply can't win.

The American People freely give to the Blacks medicine, education, money, food, clothing, shelter, and security, and it's never enough.

The Blacks wants America to think that racism is ubiquitous in America, and no matter how much the American People give to the Blacks their lives are a terrible nightmare ad nauseum.

For Barbour to claim that he never personally saw the persecution and/or rampantt prejudice of Blacks run counter to the Black Agenda of perpetual persecution.
[In my opinion, however, it also belies credulity and credibility and while I didn't grow up in the Deep South I witnessed rampant racial segregation and racial prejudice in the U.S. during the 40s, 50 and early 60s. The pendulum really started to turn in the middle 60s, however, and in my opinion it continues to this very day.]

Haley Barbour still has a shot at the GOP nomination in my estimation albeit not a terrific shot, but let's face it Haley Barbour could claim that he wants to give every Black Man and Woman in the country a television, and the Blacks [Particularly Maxine Waters, Al Sharpton and Jessee Jackson] would whine and complain that it wasn’t HD or 3-D!

When I was a Commanding Officer/Headquarters Commandant of hundreds of troops during the mid-sixties I was relatively color blind. My style of command was to pull people to reach their maximum potential rather than to push them. As a result I usually went out of my way to provide everyone [especially blacks]with a second chance when officially oft times I could have thrown the book at them. Invariably my perceptions were spot-on, but sometimes they weren't and some bad apples occasionally unnecessarily hurt the optimal efficiency of the command structure.

Posted by: FhardenIII | December 22, 2010 2:21 PM | Report abuse

The real distortion in reporting on this man is clearly an attempt at painting him a racist.
What nine year old child would know about the civil rights movement? So he answered truthfully that he didn't remember much about it.
When he went to the M.L.King gathering in 1962 he was all of 15 years old.
Take a break on this Bulls**t!

Posted by: thebeatgoeson | December 22, 2010 7:04 AM | Report abuse

Only a truly unrepentant total racist would make such a truly stupid statement. I guess he has never talked to a black person who had most of his civil rights curtailed just how that black person felt about segregation and the stupid rules about sitting in the back of the bus etc affected him or her. Haley is so truly stupid on these issues that he should learn to keep his mouth shut since he is such a disgusting representative of our party!

Posted by: mJJ2 | December 21, 2010 1:45 PM | Report abuse

I guess it was "not so bad" if you were a white person back then, but if you were being burned,rape, molested, yes they molested little children,hanged,castration and just beaten for the fun of it, you may have a different view looking back. I guess if I were in position to re-write history I would lighted it up a bit or change it maybe just plain LIE about the events, that why they call it HIS_STORY the Indians hard a term for it : HE SPEAK WITH FORK-TONGUE P.S. when these thing were being done we did not stop to ask what is your political affiliation, your skin color was recognition enough.

Posted by: kingblacknight | December 21, 2010 1:06 PM | Report abuse

"What we have here is a failure to communicate..."

Posted by: soccerhead | December 21, 2010 11:50 AM | Report abuse

"What we have here is a failrue to communicate...."

Posted by: soccerhead | December 21, 2010 11:49 AM | Report abuse

Love it when a priviliged, old, white, insenstive and, yes, RACIST coot politician opens up his mouth and let's everyone see who he truly is. So thank you Hayley. I much prefer it this way, then to have this moron running around pretending to be racially inclusive while secretly undermining blacks at every turn.

Posted by: shelley514 | December 21, 2010 11:41 AM | Report abuse

Booyahh! Rednecks in suits 4 President!!
Barbour is a looser.

Posted by: soccerhead | December 21, 2010 11:36 AM | Report abuse

People like Mississippian Haley Barbour tells you that Tax-cuts for the rich 'will help the economy' - when the economy has goes to hell ever since they were enacted during the first Bush administration.

People like Mississippian Haley Barbour tells you there is no such thing as 'Global Warmer' while weather records are getting broken year-around and 39% of American morons believe him.

Trust me - Unless we stop the Palins, DeMints and Barbours (and foreigner-owned FoxNews) from spewing their venom - In a few short years Americans will be sneaking into Mexico and Canada.

Posted by: question-guy | December 21, 2010 11:16 AM | Report abuse

As a native Mississippian, I am very offended by the question guy stating all of us are ignorant. Did you speak with everyone in the state. Think before you judge. If you knew anything about the US educational system, EVERY state has areas where the schools are substandard. Think about this, if everyone runs from a fight, what can be accomplished? I love my home state, although I am aware that there are major issues. Can you name one state that doesn't have issuses? If it is not racism its crime, does that make that state better? Your comments are very similar to Haley's ...... exhibiting the intellect of old mop water.
Posted by: amazingace | December 21, 2010 9:52 AM | Report
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Well let me clarify, I do not think every Mississippian is ignorant – just most of them. Haley Barbour was his High School’s Valedictorian….enough said!!! This is the brightest mind in a large Mississippi High School. These are the facts.

The real problem is that America has become so racist that this clown is one of the front-runners of the Republican Party for President of the United States. Granted President Obama is a very weak President and his word cannot be trusted – but he is not stupid. Intelligence should be a requisite for the highest office in America – as we (the rest of America) should not operate using the norms of Mississippi.

Posted by: question-guy | December 21, 2010 10:30 AM | Report abuse

As a native Mississippian, I am very offended by the question guy stating all of us are ignorant. Did you speak with everyone in the state. Think before you judge. If you knew anything about the US educational system, EVERY state has areas where the schools are substandard. Think about this, if everyone runs from a fight, what can be accomplished? I love my home state, although I am aware that there are major issues. Can you name one state that doesn't have issuses? If it is not racism its crime, does that make that state better? Your comments are very similar to Haley's ...... exhibiting the intellect of old mop water.
Posted by: amazingace | December 21, 2010 9:52 AM | Report
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Well let me clarify, I do not think every Mississippian is ignorant – just most of them. Haley Barbour was his High School’s Valedictorian….enough said!!! This is the brightest mind in a large Mississippi High School. These are the facts.

The real problem is that America has become so racist that this clown is one of the front-runners of the Republican Party for President of the United States. Granted President Obama is a very weak President and his word cannot be trusted – but he is not stupid. Intelligence should be a requisite for the highest office in America – as we (the rest of America) should not operate using the norms of Mississippi.

Posted by: question-guy | December 21, 2010 10:29 AM | Report abuse

As a native Mississippian, I am very offended by the question guy stating all of us are ignorant. Did you speak with everyone in the state. Think before you judge. If you knew anything about the US educational system, EVERY state has areas where the schools are substandard. Think about this, if everyone runs from a fight, what can be accomplished? I love my home state,although I am aware that there are major issuses. Can you name one state that doesn't have issuses? If it is not racism its crime, does that make that state better? Your comments are very similar to Haley's ...... exhibiting the intellect of old mop water.

Posted by: amazingace | December 21, 2010 9:52 AM | Report abuse

Barbour has trimmed the truth. For another version of reality, see the reportage of William Bradford Huie, and the journalism of Anthony Lewis.

Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it. Check out the book by Willie Morris, Yazoo City, that became the film, My Dog Skip.

Posted by: renodbpd | December 21, 2010 9:42 AM | Report abuse

Barbour has trimmed the truth. For another version of reality, see the reportage of William Bradford Huie, and the journalism of Anthony Lewis.

Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it. Check out the book by Willie Morris, Yazoo City, that became the film, My Dog Skip.

Posted by: renodbpd | December 21, 2010 9:42 AM | Report abuse

Wow! the ignorance of some of the commers is unbelievable! What is the difference between the NAACP and the KKK? A lot. The NAACP was formed to fight discrimination and to assure the rights of black citizens. Its leaders were murdered, raped, etc.. There was no power to hang white poeple, if you retaliated against someone who hurt your family, you would likely end up linched or burned. That is the truth of segregation and discrimination in those times. At least pretend you have some grasp of history and don't get all of your information from Fox News!!!

Posted by: clunningham | December 21, 2010 9:22 AM | Report abuse

Haley Barbour for President of what the Confederate States 11??

Posted by: mcafla | December 21, 2010 9:20 AM | Report abuse

Haley Barbour for President of what the Confederate States 11??

Posted by: mcafla | December 21, 2010 9:19 AM | Report abuse

Ah, how we sit on the veranda and pine for Barbour's '60s. As a white, they weren't so bad for me either. I remember Mormon Utah (the only racist Southern state North of Oklahoma) where the local Bishop assessed his flock for contributions to buy a house in our neighborhood out from under a black family who had made an offer for it.

Posted by: areyousaying | December 21, 2010 9:15 AM | Report abuse

Of course the Civil Rights Era wasn't bad for Haley Barbour; he was never denied anything. The good thing about Barbour is that he doesn't try to hide his racism; he puts it out there where everyone can see it and if you vote for this guy; you are saying that you agree with his positions. GOD help us!
Posted by: TruCherryHillNJ | December 21, 2010 7:31 AM | Report abuse
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Dear TruCherryHillNJ
I grew up down the road in Willingboro, NJ. In 1980 I left NJ and went to Mississippi. I was shocked at how utterly stupid the people (both black and white) in Mississippi were and are.
The White ruling class are ‘Proud’ of their ignorance and will proudly tell you what they don’t know and what they don’t want to learn. And the Black folks are even dumber – one for not getting the hell out of there years ago and two – the Ruling White Class removed basic social services decades ago. Schools in their Black neighborhoods are the worst in the civilize world. People ignorant fools like Haley Barbour has destroyed our once great nation. All that is left now is the fall.

Posted by: question-guy | December 21, 2010 9:11 AM | Report abuse

I remember the terror of the Civil Rights movement. Blacks rioters targeted Jewish businesses, as the Jews were the last to flee the ghetto. And even though these Jewish businesses gave blacks store credit while no one, not even black businesses would, they still were faced with a violent black mob who destroyed their businesses, burning them down and anyone inside.

The owners of other Jewish businesses still remaining were often killed in black on Jewish robberies.

Let us further remember that it was often the Jews who led the fight for civil rights. the NAACP was founded by a fellow named Kibby Kaplan, a Jew.

Racism was not restricted to whites..

Posted by: grantpaten | December 21, 2010 9:11 AM | Report abuse

not only non-scientific, your Poll is stacked against Barbour.

Why should a teenager's nonpolitical observations be used against him 30+ years later?

A better question is how could WAPO and its Liberal readership have supported Robert Byrd for 60 years in the Senate when HE ACTUALLY was a founder of a KKK chapter, and long-time member- claiming later that he had to join to get elected. That speaks volumes for Democrat Party duplicity does it not?

The same Robert Byrd - who used the politically incorrect and dreaded "n" word during his full lifetime?

The same Robert Byrd - who it hs been reported didn't believe that the Negroes cared about family, until his own wife died.

The same Robert Byrd who filibustered against the 1964 Civil Rights Act; which eventually passed only because of support from Republicans!

Pretending outrage at Haley Barbour's recollections of his life, and trying to make him into a racist, is total partisanship of the worst kind.

Posted by: Hazmat77 | December 21, 2010 9:11 AM | Report abuse

I remember the terror of the Civil Rights movement. Blacks rioters targeted Jewish businesses, as the Jews were the last to flee the ghetto. And even though these Jewish businesses gave blacks store credit while no one, not even black businesses would, they still were faced with a violent black mob who destroyed their businesses, burning them down and anyone inside.

The owners of other Jewish businesses still remaining were often killed in black on Jewish robberies.

Let us further remember that it was often the Jews who led the fight for civil rights. the NAACP was founded by a fellow named Kibby Kaplan, a Jew.

Racism was not restricted to whites..

Posted by: grantpaten | December 21, 2010 9:10 AM | Report abuse

Mississippi is the buckle on the Southern, white-supremacist bible belt of ignorance and Barbour is the model.

Posted by: areyousaying | December 21, 2010 9:02 AM | Report abuse

ruCherryHillNJ .. the bad thing about you is that you just don't understand what the term 'racism' means.

You illogically impute racism to innocuous comments. Haley spoke of his rememberances, not those of anyone else.

Posted by: Hazmat77 | December 21, 2010 8:53 AM | Report abuse

What did he say that is objectionable?

Discrimination is never the same as between those who are directly affected - the victims; and those who weren't vicims.
Barbour isn't being accused by anyhone of having mistreated blacks, is he? There doesn't seem to be any evidence that he was an aactive participant in any discrimination during his youth.

Seems to me he, as with most people, remembers the good times of his youth.

This is simply leftwing nonsense by which the leftist media begins or continues its campaign to denigrate possible opposiion electoral candidates.

The media cabal has probably got its Reinvention of Obama as a Moderate campaign set to go shortly after the new year.

No matter how inept his first 2 years prove to be, they can't let their 'historic' presidunce fail ... If it wasn't to the detriment of the nation, it would be fun to watch. By all means they must avoid a Carter-like situation.

Posted by: Hazmat77 | December 21, 2010 8:43 AM | Report abuse

1960s not good enough for the 2010s
1860s not good enough for 2010.
1760s not good enough for 2010.
1660s...

When are history-challenged products of
liberal education going to be able to realize everything is not judged by current progressive ideology.

Allow me to interview you for a few hours and I gaurantee I'll have you saying something 88% of the public thinks is dumb or racist.

But, slap on that tar with a broad brush and watch the budding bipartisanship evaporate among the race cards on the table.

The perfumed princes of The Left
can strut around damning Southerners all they like...but check the latest census,
check how many black people have moved back South from the East and West Coasts,
how many are still seeking to return to New Orleans. Then puff up those chests, roll out those judements...and await your turn.

Posted by: BluePelican | December 21, 2010 8:40 AM | Report abuse

He was a teenager through mid 20s during the '60s. It is foolish to bring up events during this time as it takes away from the real issues Barbour brings to the table.

Posted by: 78Lion | December 21, 2010 8:16 AM | Report abuse

Oh come on...segregation was over by the mid 60s? Give me a break. Before my mother could enter me into junior high school in Slidell, LA in 1965 she had to sign an affidavit stating that I was a "white child of white parents." The year I graduated from high school in 1971 we finally had full integration...and the school was shut down off and on because of the bomb threats from the Klan and their fellow travelers.

Posted by: skipporr | December 21, 2010 7:34 AM | Report abuse

Of course the Civil Rights Era wasn't bad for Haley Barbour; he was never denied anything. The good thing about Barbour is that he doesn't try to hide his racism; he puts it out there where everyone can see it and if you vote for this guy; you are saying that you agree with his positions. GOD help us!

Posted by: TruCherryHillNJ | December 21, 2010 7:31 AM | Report abuse

Haley Barbour does the impossible! He just made Palin look electable. Genius.

Posted by: NewThoughts | December 21, 2010 7:30 AM | Report abuse

What country does Barbour want to be president of? The USA or the CSA? I believe it's the latter. At least we know where he stands before he runs.

Posted by: gtoney55 | December 21, 2010 6:05 AM | Report abuse

to:poster #691-"Doesn't believe Barbour was ever a Democrat!" I can feel your pain, especially in regards to today's racist oriented republican party. it doesn't seem that way, but the republican party was once the only party that supported African Americans in our ongoing quest to obtain Civil Rights in America. The Republican Party was known as the "Party of Lincoln," and it was the party that helped Slaves, and former slaves cthrough the years of reconstruction, and later with problems associated with the KKK, and other white supremacist groups. History will show that up until the 1950's the Democratic party was controlled primarily by Southern Whites, and it was Senator Strom Thurmond of So Carolina who hyjacked the republican party by causing Southern whites to leave the DEMOCRATIC PARTY and join the republican party. HE was angry over states rights issues, and the Democratic Parties softening over Civil Right's issues. He ran for president as a third party candidate, The Dixicrat, but lost. His anti-civil rights message resdonated with the republican party, and white Southerners enrolled in large numbers in the Republican Party..

Posted by: lenwilliams6 | December 21, 2010 4:22 AM | Report abuse

I read if you get caught with small amounts of marijuana in Mississippi there is no possible jail time if the maximum penalty is given. From what I read there are another eleven states where there is no possible jail time if the maximum penalty is applied. It is only a fine in these twelve states. In a least five of these states it is only a civil citation and not even a misdemeanor. It is good to see that there is something civil about Mississippi. The state has the worst reputation in the North regarding race relations.

Posted by: robert_curley_jacobs | December 21, 2010 3:07 AM | Report abuse

I read if you get caught with small amounts of marijuana in Mississippi there is no possible jail time if the maximum penalty is given. From what I read there are another eleven states where there is no possible jail time if the maximum penalty is applied. It is only a fine in these twelve states. In a least five of these states it is only a civil citation and not even a misdemeanor.

It is good to see that there is something civil about Mississippi. The state has the worst reputation in the North regarding race relations.

Posted by: robert_curley_jacobs | December 21, 2010 3:03 AM | Report abuse

I read if you get caught with small amounts of marijuana in Mississippi there is no possible jail time if the maximum penalty is given. From what I read there are another eleven states where there is no possible jail time if the maximum penalty is applied. It is only a fine in these twelve states. In a least five of these states it is only a civil citation and not even a misdemeanor.

It is good to see that there is something civil about Mississippi. The state has the worst reputation in the North regarding race relations.

Posted by: robert_curley_jacobs | December 21, 2010 3:02 AM | Report abuse

I love these Leghorn Chicken types from Yazzo City. Of course race was not a problem in Yazzo City if you were white!
Mr. Barbour would make an excellent running mate for Sara, if feel your pain Hatti, Palin.

Posted by: Rlupodimare | December 21, 2010 12:57 AM | Report abuse

This is a non-scientific user poll. Results are not statistically valid and cannot be assumed to reflect the views of Washington Post users as a group or the general population.
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Thanks. This user will decline to be polled then.

Haley Barbour is not "misremembering" or "insensitive", he's wrong. If he was in First Grade I'd still give him a Gold Star to build his self-esteem and to irritate good old boys who don't think that sort of thing is necessary. But he's not in First Grade and he needs to grow up.

Posted by: gannon_dick | December 20, 2010 11:53 PM | Report abuse

"It didn't seem that bad?" Maybe because he's white. We don't need another presidential candidate who don't understand the history of our country or who tries to sugarcoat the past. That part of our history was disgraceful. He's old enough to remember the "White Only" and "Black Only" signs and plenty of other offensive stuff.

Posted by: MNUSA | December 20, 2010 11:38 PM | Report abuse

tmonahan54: "Unless one was in Yazoo City living and experiencing the events in the city at the time one will never know or have any basis for knowing for sure how civil rights were there. Any thing less is speculation and biased opinions, period."
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Right! Because it would be impossible to go back and, like, look at the racist newspapers the Yazoo City Citizens Council put out at the time. Oh wait:

http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2010/12/flashback-citizens-councils-touted-racial-integrity-christian-love-and-segregation.php?ref=fpi

I love Fox "News" watchers and their belief that it is impossible to acquire knowledge through historical research or scientific inquiry.

Posted by: KROVE1 | December 20, 2010 11:37 PM | Report abuse

tmonahan54... are you on drugs???

To be so willfully ignorant is shocking - I hope it's drugs, 'cause if you're this ignorant naturally, you have even bigger problems.

So you know, there are huge volumes of recorded history - in print and media - that show without a doubt that Yazoo City was as racist a place as has ever existed anywhere on this planet.

So quit your drugs, and do some research. If you have enough brain cells left!

Posted by: jeffc6578 | December 20, 2010 11:31 PM | Report abuse

Mississippi Goddam!

Posted by: WmHooper | December 20, 2010 11:29 PM | Report abuse

This is what is amazing about liberals. Barbour lived in Yazoo City, MS. He has direct knowledge of how things were when he was raised there. I bet many of the liberals commenting were not even born at the time. They want to say "It says here on page 5 of the November 5, 1965 New York Times that racism was rampant in Yazoo City." I'll take the word of a primary source who lived in the city every day over the word of some secondary source journalist-with-an-agenda living in Manhattan such as David Halberstam. Halberstam travels to Yazoo City spends two nights in a hotel, writes what suits him to fit his agenda and that becomes "factual history" in the liberal mind. I am not buying it. Unless one was in Yazoo City living and experiencing the events in the city at the time one will never know or have any basis for knowing for sure how civil rights were there. Any thing less is speculation and biased opinions, period.

Posted by: tmonahan54 | December 20, 2010 11:02 PM | Report abuse

How I hope he runs....
An ignorant white hillbilly from a tax money sucking backwater as the face of the tea-bagger republicans!
Between Sarah Palin and Haley Barbour, we could just start calling the republican party the redneck party!

Posted by: jeffc6578 | December 20, 2010 10:45 PM | Report abuse

"If we are to have a discussion about race, let's be honest about it. Racism is not a one way street."
Posted by: grantpaten

It can only be a two way street if everyone is equal. When Barbour grew up it was completely one way, and that is what Barbour seems to not understand even though it was all around him. If he cannot understand the racism he lived in, or the fight to overcome it, then how can he understand anything?

Posted by: Fate1 | December 20, 2010 10:42 PM | Report abuse

Well, that clinches the GOP Nomination for Borbour. Conservatives will love him even more now.

Posted by: B-rod | December 20, 2010 10:38 PM | Report abuse

So Barbour had a childhood where the Klan was kept out, as it was out of many other southern towns, not because of their racist beliefs but because of the violence they brought. He probably lived in an all-white neighborhood and went to an all white school. I grew up in MD and did the same. But in 1962 my Dad had to travel to Atlanta and then to New Orleans, so he took the family and we made it a road trip. It was my first trip into the South. I was 8.

What an eye opener. At the GA border we were greeted with a large Klan poster declaring GA "Klan Country". We never had problems sitting in restaurants or getting motel rooms, but it was obvious how blacks were not in any of them. This stood out to me since it was so complete. In Atlanta I fell in love with the teenage girl at the Howard Johnson's next to our motel, as 8-year-old boys will do, but she explained to me why blacks were not allowed into the restaurant, how they were like animals, how blacks and whites must remain separate, and how obvious it was. She was so matter-of-fact it scared me.

I knew the South was racist but I had no idea how ingrained it was. But it did not prepare me for Mississippi. What I thought were historic slave quarters had black people living in them. In the towns we stopped in the whites smiled and treated us well, even though we were "yankees", but at one restaurant a black man walked in, stopped, and before he could turn to leave got yelled at by two of the waitresses for "daring" to walk in.

How Barbour could have grown up in the state I saw and not see the civil rights problems only makes sense if you consider, like that waitress I fell in love with, that the underlying racism and discrimination was normal, did not affect him or his friends, so what's the problem? No big deal, right?

Most people, as they grew up and learned more about civil rights recognized the racism in their communities and are glad our society overcame it and provided equality for all. That Barbour has not grown up to realize the evil he grew up in tells me he is not fit for an office that will protect the Constitutional rights of all Americans.

Posted by: Fate1 | December 20, 2010 10:32 PM | Report abuse

I am only 66 years old but I remember the Civil Rights movement and it was filled with terror for my friends who were black. I was too young then to understand it. If a back even looked at a white there could be severe punishment. Oklahoma had linchings in the 1930's and 40's. People of color could not use the rest room or drink from a white only drinking fountain. Young people today have no idea about how bad it was to be born black in America. The land of the free wasn't free for people of color. Today it is different and better but don't let anyone fool you about our past, it was horrible. I for one am not jealous of the fact that these people of color have it better today. If my ancestors had been through slavery and mistreated like these people I think I would be terribly prejudiced. The propaganda was always that America was the great melting pot. Well that was only true if you were white, not so for African Americans, Mexicans, Japanese, or any other people of color. And now these southern states want to whitewash our history in their own favor. Good luck with that one but I saw it with my own eyes and it was brutal and ugly.

Posted by: checksixb17 | December 20, 2010 10:18 PM | Report abuse

Barbour is a pathetically sad case. He doesn't remember very much about the civil rights era because he didn't pay attention to what was happening to others in his state or in the country. Was Barbour or friends/family lynched? Did he have to pay a poll tax and pass a test to vote? Did he attend integrated schools? Was he a sharecropper? Did he or family/friends have to sit in the back of the buses, drink water from segrated fountains and use "colored only" restrooms? Did he shuffle his feet and look down when he spoke to white folks? Did he go to integrated churches? Did he, his family/friends have easy access to bank loans and credit? Did he enter public places through the front doors or back doors? Was he, family/friends, able to go to any public restaurant and be treated equally and well? Was he or any family member or friends ever run out of town because he was white? Did anyone ever burn a cross at the front of his house? Did he, his family and friends earn the same wages as black Americans? Was he, his family, or friends shot at because he was white? Was he, his family or friends convicted by all white juries,imprisoned unjustly for crimes he did not commit, all because he's white?

Bubba doesn't have any brains and maybe that's why the repulsicans want him as their president.

Posted by: SocorroMariaPelayo | December 20, 2010 10:18 PM | Report abuse

Let's see...American citizens denied the right to vote and beaten to a pulp and jailed by law enforcement officers for trying to exercise that right, beatings and murders of civil rights workers, assassination of one of the country's greatest moral leaders, military deployments to enforce the law, riots and cities on fire....yeah, I guess if you had your head up your a*s like Haley Barbour, the civil rights era was like living in the Garden of Eden.

Posted by: Bob22003 | December 20, 2010 10:13 PM | Report abuse

Folks such as Barbour define the norm for racial tolerance a bit differently than do most people. In his world, if you don't subscribe to lynchings and lawn burnings, then you are a model citizen without a racist bone in your body ... even though you can't stomach the idea of full racial equality and a totally desegregated society.

Posted by: labman57 | December 20, 2010 9:49 PM | Report abuse

Folks such as Barbour define the norm for racial tolerance a bit differently than do most people. In his world, if you don't subscribe to lynchings and lawn burnings, then you are a model citizen without a racist bone in your body ... even though you can't stomach the idea of full racial equality and a totally desegregated society.

Posted by: labman57 | December 20, 2010 9:47 PM | Report abuse

The only PC thing to say about the CR Era was that white people were mean and evil to poor, noble black people, and we white people can never make up for it. Otherwise, you're a closet Klansman and white supremacist who really should be taken out and shot, if we weren't so anti-gun ownership.

Posted by: gbooksdc | December 20, 2010 9:45 PM | Report abuse

This is your typical GOP bait & switch history. Any idiot knows that Nixon's famous Southern Strategy worked and is still working.

Posted by: oldwoman | December 20, 2010 9:42 PM | Report abuse

All I need to know about Mr. Barbour's home state is that it was the last, last state to ratify the amendment to give women the vote in this country, 60 full years after the fact. if they treated white women with that bit of respect it's not a great stretch to figure out how they treated the black "help". Mississippi as a haven for social justice, I don't think so. Mr. Barbour can stylize all he wants but, as they say in the south, that dog won't hunt!

Posted by: sls213 | December 20, 2010 9:40 PM | Report abuse

Once again southern Republicans remind us that they've never stopped being racist crackers. Their bigotry and their agenda hasn't changed in 50-60 years. White supremacy, denial and outright lies are in their genes. And that is sad, very sad.

Posted by: tboyer33 | December 20, 2010 9:31 PM | Report abuse

What's the difference between the NAACP and the KKK?
How many whites have the NAACP hung from the trees-------------with the county folks looking on with approval?

Posted by: kacameron | December 20, 2010 8:08 PM | Report abuse


How many white businesses were looted by blacks? How many whites have been targeted by blacks as people to victimize in a street crime?

Blacks have the highest percentage of anti-Semitism of any group. Is that acceptable, or shall their bigotry be overlooked?

If we are to have a discussion about race, let's be honest about it. Racism is not a one way street.

Posted by: grantpaten | December 20, 2010 9:27 PM | Report abuse

What's the difference between the NAACP and the KKK?
How many whites have the NAACP hung from the trees-------------with the county folks looking on with approval?

Posted by: kacameron | December 20, 2010 8:08 PM | Report abuse


How many white businesses were looted by blacks? How many whites have been targeted by blacks as people to victimize in a street crime?

Blacks have the highest percentage of anti-Semitism of any group. Is that acceptable, or shall their bigotry be overlooked?

If we are to have a discussion about race, let's be honest about it. Racism is not a one way street.

Posted by: grantpaten | December 20, 2010 9:26 PM | Report abuse

@sales7:
"When Boston intergrated the schools, the liberals in Boston (Boston is a very liberal area) were out stoning the buses carrying the blacks to what used to be all white schools. The same happened in Chicago as well as some so called other liberal northern cities."

Well, I grew up in Massachusetts (b 1934) and I can tell you that there was never anything "liberal" -- let alone "very liberal" in Southie, where all the rioting happened. Like any city (or town, for that matter) there are all kinds of folks with all kinds of views. The difference is when hate and hooliganism is institutionalized under law.

I may be a good-for-nothing "liberal" now, but I grew up in a conservative community when & where being "conservative" meant paying your bills, behaving yourself, and treating others respectfully, not for organized greed and hatred. There isn't enough lipstick on earth to cover up Haley Barbour and his amnesiac good-ole-boys.

Posted by: icyone | December 20, 2010 9:04 PM | Report abuse

Jsuf...look at the statistics for those states. I have no problem being called a "Northern Elitist" In fact I'm proud of it. Your comments just prove that some people believe that Stupid is a virtue

Posted by: cavys | December 20, 2010 9:03 PM | Report abuse

I joined the Air Force in 1981 and was stationed down in Mississippi; the good white folks down thought I didn’t know what race I was. They had the courtesy to remind me daily as I rode my bike from Gulfport to Biloxi, as I was called a ni**er at least 10 times a day and once someone tried to run me over (as I rode my bike on the sidewalk, while in military uniform mind you). This is normal ‘good ole boy’ behavior to Haley Barbour.

Posted by: question-guy | December 20, 2010 9:01 PM | Report abuse

I joined the Air Force in 1981 and was stationed down in Mississippi; the good white folks down thought I didn’t know what race I was. They had the courtesy to remind me daily as I rode my bike from Gulfport to Biloxi, as I was called a ni**er at least 10 times a day and once someone tried to run me over (as I rode my bike on the sidewalk, while in military uniform mind you). This is normal ‘good ole boy’ behavior to Haley Barbour.

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Posted by: goodlucky82 | December 20, 2010 8:43 PM | Report abuse

Hey ol haley had fun at the fair and ol miss kept him out of the draft,,hes a bit of a warhawk these days besides having fun then,,aint he.

Posted by: schmidt1 | December 20, 2010 8:41 PM | Report abuse

As a lad I spent many summers in the South in the 50s. Things were fine for me then, but, like the Governor, I'm white. The media, books and personal accounts show the South then as very different for Blacks.

The Governor could still learn and broaden his horizons. Read and, best of all, talk to Blacks who lived in the South in the 50s. The recordings of the interactions could make for a great course. Show it at the GOP 2012 nominating convention. Might just be a welcome start on discarding the racist Southern Strategy and a well informed and constructive GOP outreach to Blacks. Hispanics next.

Posted by: jimb | December 20, 2010 8:36 PM | Report abuse

IMO Barbour is the republican party machines desired candidate. So they will do their best to get all of Barbour's mis-speaks out in the open early.
Barbour still has to come to grips with the fact he's governor of a welfare state and ain't done nothing to improve the situation for the citizens of Mississippi.

Posted by: knjincvc | December 20, 2010 8:33 PM | Report abuse

That is because you are white, stupid. And an unrepentant racist white at that. That You are still a died in the wool racist, Haley, with no compassion for blacks that were slaves, beaten at the slightest thing they did that "the master" did not like. Only an un-repentant racist would make such a callous comment in the face of the facts of slavery with widespread sexual abuse of women, "whippings of slaves, and even sale of slaves away7 from their families. That you ignore this sort of disgusting behavior and seems clueless about the unGodly, inhumane treatment of some of God's creation makes him beyond the pale. Never, never run for an office outside of Mississippi, Haley because Christians will make sure you never get elected.

Posted by: mJJ2 | December 20, 2010 8:28 PM | Report abuse

Amazing. Now the liberals are telling us how we should "recall" things. Amazing. What business is it of anyone else how anyone "recalls" something. Only stupid liberals would pounce on this. I recall that all liberals are idiots! Oh! Oh! Oh!

Posted by: georges2 | December 20, 2010 8:28 PM | Report abuse

As a lad I spent a number of summers in the South in the 50s. The South seemed fine then, but, like Barbour, I'm white. As I hope we all would have learned, for Blacks the South was not so fine for them then.

The Governor could learn the other side of the story if he would seek out and listen to Blacks of his age recall how the South was (and still is in some ways). I hope he will do so. Recording his education could make a great documentary. Show it at the 2012 GOP nominating convention as a launch pad for GOP efforts to reach out to Blacks with understanding and a constructive platform.

Posted by: jimb | December 20, 2010 8:24 PM | Report abuse

This adage comes to mind: "Where you stand depends on where you sit."

Posted by: mitlen | December 20, 2010 8:20 PM | Report abuse

As a southerner near Barbour's age, I'm appalled by his remarks. They're insensitive and clueless, and bespeak a mentality more rooted in partisan political gamesmanship than compassion, never mind basic insight, into the situation of others. Barbour is one of those folks who resented Civil Rights and other 60s era activism and has never been able to get his mind fully around the fact that he grew up in a racist culture that, while not without other virtues, has struggled since them to come to honest terms with its past and its failings.

But these days it's all about big government and deficit spending and tax and spend liberals, as far as Barbour and his ilk are concerned. It's a blessing that his insensitivity comes out here so that we all can see further into the mentality of folks who are merely using new language to dredge up old debates, and are using new conflicts to promote the same old elitist, and racially-biased, agenda.

Posted by: nc1123 | December 20, 2010 8:15 PM | Report abuse

scary people are everywhere

**************

What's the difference between the KKK and the NAACP? Change the color, and there is none.

Blacks in Government (BIG) is a black organization to promote and hire black people. If a white joined Whites in Government, he would be fired.

Racism 2010. The roles are reversed.

Posted by: grantpaten

Posted by: zcezcest1 | December 20, 2010 8:08 PM | Report abuse

What's the difference between the NAACP and the KKK?
How many whites have the NAACP hung from the trees-------------with the county folks looking on with approval?

Posted by: kacameron | December 20, 2010 8:08 PM | Report abuse

@cavys: Stupidity is definitely a virtue, just look at all of the Democratic voters who are kept on the government dole.

Posted by: Jsuf | December 20, 2010 8:08 PM | Report abuse

All I can say is, I'm sick of Southern poor hard done-by soap-opera stories and soap-opera movies, and that includes,'Gone with the Wind' (Carol Burnett's version was better than the original).
Let 'em secede and don't let the door hit 'em in the --- on the way out.

Posted by: kacameron | December 20, 2010 8:00 PM | Report abuse

All I can say is, I'm sick of Southern poor hard done-by soap-opera stories and soap-opera movies, and that includes,'Gone with the Wind' (Carol Burnett's version was better than the original).
Let 'em secede and don't let the door hit 'em in the --- on the way out.

Posted by: kacameron | December 20, 2010 8:00 PM | Report abuse

Jsuf...look at the statistics for those states. I have no problem being called a "Northern Elitist" In fact I'm proud of it. Your comments just prove that some people believe that Stupid is a virtue

Posted by: cavys | December 20, 2010 7:46 PM | Report abuse

What's the difference between the KKK and the NAACP? Change the color, and there is none.

Blacks in Government (BIG) is a black organization to promote and hire black people. If a white joined Whites in Government, he would be fired.

Racism 2010. The roles are reversed.

Posted by: grantpaten | December 20, 2010 7:44 PM | Report abuse

What's the difference between the KKK and the NAACP? Change the color, and there is none.

Blacks in Government (BIG) is a black organization to promote and hire black people. If a white joined Whites in Government, he would be fired.

Racism 2010. The roles are reversed.

Posted by: grantpaten | December 20, 2010 7:44 PM | Report abuse

What's the difference between the KKK and the NAACP? Change the color, and there is none.

Blacks in Government (BIG) is a black organization to promote and hire black people. If a white joined Whites in Government, he would be fired.

Racism 2010. The roles are reversed.

Posted by: grantpaten | December 20, 2010 7:44 PM | Report abuse

@cavys: So you'rr saying everyone in the South is poor and illiterate? That says alot about you and your northern elitism. I thought Democrats were supposed to welcome everyone? I guess not if they are poor or illiterate right?

Posted by: Jsuf | December 20, 2010 7:34 PM | Report abuse


He is a Republican who grew up in Mississippi during the 60's
and doesn't recall it as being " that bad" because to him, it wasn't.
Now, let's see you put two and two togather.

Posted by: Billy7 | December 20, 2010 7:32 PM | Report abuse

Mr. Barbour's comments only reveal him to be the racial bigot he has always been.

I'm just a year younger than Mr. Barbour and am astounded at his comments. I grew up in Chicago's South Shore neighborhood and was acutely aware of effects of racial segregation, the civil rights movement, and everything that governments would do to prevent racially integrated neighborhoods from existing. South Shore was the poster child for how Mayor Daley the First deliberately sabotaged every community effort to stay racially integrated.

My experiences growing up led me to become a city planner and fair housing attorney focused largely on the issue of racial integration in housing. This nation sadly continues to suffer from hypersegregation -- where housing in our 16 largest metropolitan areas is actually more racially segregated than housing is in South Africa (Source: Denton and Massey, "American Apartheid")

Segregation imposed by law was hell on earth for people of color. Segregation imposed by Jim Crow was not any better. Mr. Barbour has an incredibly selective memory. The Republican Party has built itself on its appeals to segregationists and other racial bigotry -- that's its foundation, especially in the South. Sadly little has changed and the Republicans continue to race bait and appeal to racial bigotry. And while some of the opposition to President Obama is based on political philosophy, the tenor of the opposition and the language and images they use makes it abundantly clear that most of the opposition to him is based on race. They see President Obama as some uppity nig*er who just doesn't know his place. That, I'm afraid is the bottom line and another example why the likes of a Haley Barbour should never be elected to public office again.

Posted by: dl49 | December 20, 2010 7:32 PM | Report abuse


He is a Republican who grew up in Mississippi during the 60's
and doesn't recall it as being " that bad" because to him, it wasn't.
Now, let's see you put two and two togather.

Posted by: Billy7 | December 20, 2010 7:31 PM | Report abuse

I remember back in Reagan days, when his pal James Watt was secretary of the Interior. When caught mocking affirmative action, he responded: "I have a black, a woman, two Jews and a cripple. And we have talent."

So really, Haley Barbour is probably doing the best he can. This is his reality, I seriously doubt if he's lying in the sense of the word where he knows he's not telling the truth.

He just doesn't know any better, like most people of his kind.

Posted by: eezmamata | December 20, 2010 7:27 PM | Report abuse

Wait a minute.......He's a Republican who grew up in Mississippi
during the 60's..........Now let's see how many of you can put two and two together.

Posted by: Billy7 | December 20, 2010 7:26 PM | Report abuse

Some truths from someone who was at Ole Miss when "Fat Haley" was. Things might not have been "so bad" from the porch of the SAE house on fraternity row, but you didn't need to venture far to encounter hatred. It would have been impossible to ignore. And believe me it still exists, although behind the scene.I sure Fat Haley attended a few KKK meetings as we all knew where they were held.

It is true that democrats did foster a lot of the hatred, but LBJ's signing the voting rights act and the civil rights act did cause the mass migration from the left to the right of whites in the south. This movement has almost fully been accomplished with the results of the last election.
I'm all for a Palin/Barbour ticket in 2012 but only if their platform includes a plank of supporting succession.

We should build the fence that republicans keep talking about, only build it 1,000 miles further north.
They can call their new country anything they want except the United States of AMERICA. I might suggest the United States of the Confederacy or the United States of Dumbf***istan.

They would get NO federal funding.

They get all the dumb,fat, poor people and our literacy rate, personal income rate and overall health would go up.

Their new motto can be "Stupid is a Virtue"

Posted by: cavys | December 20, 2010 7:25 PM | Report abuse

Some truths from someone who was at Ole Miss when "Fat Haley" was. Things might not have been "so bad" from the porch of the SAE house on fraternity row, but you didn't need to venture far to encounter hatred. It would have been impossible to ignore. And believe me it still exists, although behind the scene.I sure Fat Haley attended a few KKK meetings as we all knew where they were held.

It is true that democrats did foster a lot of the hatred, but LBJ's signing the voting rights act and the civil rights act did cause the mass migration from the left to the right of whites in the south. This movement has almost fully been accomplished with the results of the last election.
I'm all for a Palin/Barbour ticket in 2012 but only if their platform includes a plank of supporting succession.

We should build the fence that republicans keep talking about, only build it 1,000 miles further north.
They can call their new country anything they want except the United States of AMERICA. I might suggest the United States of the Confederacy or the United States of Dumbf***istan.

They would get NO federal funding.

They get all the dumb,fat, poor people and our literacy rate, personal income rate and overall health would go up.

Their new motto can be "Stupid is a Virtue"

Posted by: cavys | December 20, 2010 7:25 PM | Report abuse

Some truths from someone who was at Ole Miss when "Fat Haley" was. Things might not have been "so bad" from the porch of the SAE house on fraternity row, but you didn't need to venture far to encounter hatred. It would have been impossible to ignore. And believe me it still exists, although behind the scene.I sure Fat Haley attended a few KKK meetings as we all knew where they were held.

It is true that democrats did foster a lot of the hatred, but LBJ's signing the voting rights act and the civil rights act did cause the mass migration from the left to the right of whites in the south. This movement has almost fully been accomplished with the results of the last election.
I'm all for a Palin/Barbour ticket in 2012 but only if their platform includes a plank of supporting succession.

We should build the fence that republicans keep talking about, only build it 1,000 miles further north.
They can call their new country anything they want except the United States of AMERICA. I might suggest the United States of the Confederacy or the United States of Dumbf***istan.

They would get NO federal funding.

They get all the dumb,fat, poor people and our literacy rate, personal income rate and overall health would go up.

Their new motto can be "Stupid is a Virtue"

Posted by: cavys | December 20, 2010 7:23 PM | Report abuse

@jjedif: Be careful trying to use big words. I believe the word is unrepentant.

Posted by: Jsuf | December 20, 2010 7:14 PM | Report abuse

Governor Haley Barbour: “I just don’t remember it as being that bad.”

Haley Barbour is either an unrepentetent racist, or senile, or both (most likely).

Posted by: jjedif | December 20, 2010 7:11 PM | Report abuse

He should have said that the White Citizens Council was an organization of town leaders that offered free transportation north for blacks. He should just talk to Trent Lott if his memory is so short.

Posted by: TennesseeJim | December 20, 2010 7:09 PM | Report abuse

Barbour's remarks exhibit a typical problem, but they weren't "insensitive," which made the 2-choice question at the end of the article inadequate. He claimed that the Citizen Councils weren't that bad and opposed the KKK. That's hardly a racist remark, any more than the observation that Martin Luther King's speech was attended peacefully by both blacks and whites. The problem (which the Post's question doesn't address) is whether what Barbour said about the Councils was accurate. Barbour has a good sense of what would and wouldn't have been racist; but if (as his spokeman's defense suggests by inaccurately denying the Councils were discussed) Barbour whitewashed the racism of the Councils, then what he said was just untrue. Denial, as Mark Twain observed, ain't just a river in Egypt.

Posted by: gregh2223 | December 20, 2010 7:00 PM | Report abuse

@thegreatpotatospamof2003: Where were you educated? Just like every liberal, you switch from the topic at hand to something else. Since when are we talking about health care? Stay on task junior. Immediately, Barbour is made out to be a racist, so I was merely providing examples of racism within your party.

Posted by: Jsuf | December 20, 2010 6:53 PM | Report abuse

Wouldn't you LOVE to see a Barbour/Palin debate?
SNL could survive for a year on that one.

Posted by: pjohn2 | December 20, 2010 6:53 PM | Report abuse

I don't remember slavery being that bad. Why, we had white people and black people living together on plantations.

Posted by: AlanGoldberg54 | December 20, 2010 6:53 PM | Report abuse

"Haley Barbour: I don't remember the civil rights era being that bad."

That headline has to be once both one of the funiest and yet of the sadest of 2010. How one could believe that the civil rights era was not that bad boggles the mind. It woul be like saying something like slavery was not all that bad, they got free housing, and the women, well, the women got a warm bed every now and then when their master had their way with them. Haley's right, it was not that bad.

What a pathetic excuse of human crap.

Posted by: misfit614 | December 20, 2010 6:50 PM | Report abuse

I would not think so either if I had been under a rock for 50 years like you seem to have been under.
Or maybe you are a rock.BUT,someday many of us are going to be very sorry that we said and did some very stupid things.

Posted by: EKjQ8aPX | December 20, 2010 6:48 PM | Report abuse

I would not think so either if I had been under a rock for 50 years like you seem to have been under.
Or maybe you are a rock.BUT,someday many of us are going to be very sorry that we said and did some very stupid things.

Posted by: EKjQ8aPX | December 20, 2010 6:47 PM | Report abuse

"Haley Barbour: I don't remember the civil rights era being that bad"
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Well Haley, it all depends on which end of the stick you are on. If you are the one wielding the beating, it ain't so bad, but if you are on the receiving end, it is pretty bad.

Posted by: RedRat | December 20, 2010 6:45 PM | Report abuse

Just noticed a gross typo in my comment. I was 15 when I spoke to my dad's service group, not 15.

Should add that when dad was picked to fill a vacant spot on the school board, he discovered(not really) that separate but equal was separate but unequal. Our refinery town could not get the best black teachers even paying 25% more than Houston because Houston was more accepting than my little union town.

Posted by: contrarydave | December 20, 2010 6:44 PM | Report abuse

It is politically incorrect to tell the truth about civil rights. Most blacks today, except for the black bourgeois like Obama, are no bettewr off. In fact they were better off on ante-bellum plantations, better than living in crack houses in Detroikt or Camden, NJ.
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Wow! First, thanks for making clear where all you people who complain about "political correctness" are actually comming from. I guess those against "political correctness" are really just missing the days when blacks were human chattle that could be beaten, raped or worked to death at the whim of their "massashs." Only a racist and a buffoon would compare poverty in Detroit, no matter how bad, to being a slave and being whipped and tortured. Even a destitute person in a crack house in Detroit or Camden has it better than having to pick cotton all day until your hands bleed, eating slop, being whipped, tortured and raped on a regular basis. Having your children stolen from you, abused and sold as property. Just another stellar mind of the right-wingnut contingency. Hmmmm, that's kind of like comparing Obama to Hitler. Wonder where I heard that before? Teabaggers! Nothing, and I mean NOTHING in America today compares to the attrocities of slavery or of the Nazi's regime. Only an imbicile could say otherwise.

Posted by: October10S | December 20, 2010 6:42 PM | Report abuse

What a disgrace. Another Jeff(KKK) Sessions. Another George Wallace. As prejudiced as the day is long. Just another redneck from the south. Case closed.

Posted by: walkman1956 | December 20, 2010 6:38 PM | Report abuse

Of course Barbour could not tell how bad it was...his sheet kept falling over his eyes blocking his vision.

He really has NO shame, no conscience, and not an ounce of grist needed to be prez...the GOP has disintegrated into the party of NO...no sense, no sensibilities, no intellect, and no grasp of reality.

Posted by: politico5 | December 20, 2010 6:37 PM | Report abuse

My last dream, Santa lost half his reindeer -- there he was, poor Santa, up in the air, looking befuddled, holding the reins, confused about where in the heck his team went...

Don't worry bud, you still have Prancer adn Butch.

LOLOLOL

Posted by: thegreatpotatospamof2003 | December 20, 2010 6:36 PM | Report abuse

Ohh that wretched southern twang, how quickly you have forgotten about your favorite southerner Bill Clinton. I believe Clinton made a comment saying that Obama would be serving him and Ted Kennedy coffee if it were a few years ago. So as quickly as you can call Barbour a racist, look at your own party. Clinton grew up in the same south as Barbour. Let us also not forget about Robert KKK Byrd whom the Democrats loved so dearly.
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Where in the world were you educated?

You think the comments were similar in context, and you use a highly specious analogy as proof?

You know that DUMB Florida judge who asked about the government requirement to buy health care -- ie, "would the government also compel us to eat broccoli?"

Forgetting any ideology, I cringed when I heard that from a US judge, perhaps the most ignormant thinking process in a person who is ostensibly educated -- why is that an inaccurate analogy? And that judge, who is responsible for adjudicating US law, is TOO DUMB to know -- DUMB people compromise the nation, you know?

No wonder the tea party is a laughing stock --

Posted by: thegreatpotatospamof2003 | December 20, 2010 6:31 PM | Report abuse

Lets take a look at history. When Boston intergrated the schools, the liberals in Boston (Boston is a very liberal area) were out stoning the buses carrying the blacks to what used to be all white schools. The same happened in Chicago as well as some so called other liberal northern cities.

When I moved to Dothan, Alabama in 1978 for a new job, a federal judge had ordered the schools to be intergrated. Instead of rioting and stoning the buses, the school district went out and purchased additional buses so they could achieve the court by busing students to other schools. I heard a lot of comments about how they wanted to impreach the judge but the courts had ruled and they followed the courts orders. This was far more civil than what happened in the so called liberal areas of the north.

We have a bunch of people who were not alive during that era who are making comments and judgements about whether the governor is racist and the whether the Republican Party is racist. Race is in the eyes of the beholder and I believe that many of the posters here are racist by claiming that Barbour and the Republicans are racist.

Posted by: sales7 | December 20, 2010 6:29 PM | Report abuse

Of course the dumb ass doesn't remember the Civil Rights Era as being all that bad. He's a white male....just like I am! The big difference between us is that I did manage to see things differently. The way we treated Black people was and always will be shameful. It was wrong. It was racist. It was truly sinful. We didn't hear the words of Jesus, the one we claimed to follow.....or our hearts were too stone cold and our minds so dense that we didn't comprehend a thing about oppression and how we were participants in it.

Bruce Garner
Atlanta

Posted by: brucegarner | December 20, 2010 6:23 PM | Report abuse

And slavery had nothing to do with the civil war.

Posted by: poh-barb | December 20, 2010 6:21 PM | Report abuse

@truth1: Ohh that wretched southern twang, how quickly you have forgotten about your favorite southerner Bill Clinton. I believe Clinton made a comment saying that Obama would be serving him and Ted Kennedy coffee if it were a few years ago. So as quickly as you can call Barbour a racist, look at your own party. Clinton grew up in the same south as Barbour. Let us also not forget about Robert KKK Byrd whom the Democrats loved so dearly.

Posted by: Jsuf | December 20, 2010 6:17 PM | Report abuse

Foghorn Leghorn Barbour is the perect representive (racist, bigot, homophobe, xenophobe etc) of todays extremist Republican party.


As a Dem, I say: Bring. It. On!

.

Posted by: DrainYou | December 20, 2010 6:13 PM | Report abuse

Mr. Barbour: I have only one thing to say about your memory..."White Boy" you must have been out the state of Mississipi or out of your mind.

Posted by: Kuehn | December 20, 2010 6:10 PM | Report abuse

Mr. Barbour: I have only one thing to say about your memory..."White Boy" you must have been out the state of Mississipi or out of your mind.

Posted by: Kuehn | December 20, 2010 6:09 PM | Report abuse

Here we go with the race nonsense again. Nothing like the Wapo to keep the division going. At the end of the day Dems were at the first KKK meeting, they tried to stop Lincoln, they voted against the civil rights act, their Dem gov's and others were behind violence against blacks in the south and it continues till today. Obama, the Dems in Congress and others(new black panther party) are behind race division in this country and there being supported by the idiots at this paper.

Posted by: davispope | December 20, 2010 6:08 PM | Report abuse

For people like him things weren't so bad at all. Plus, the nigras liked having to get off the sidewalk when a white person walked by. They admired them so much.

Posted by: bgormley1 | December 20, 2010 6:07 PM | Report abuse

And my brother's toothache didn't really hurt [me] at all at the time. Why is he making a fuss about it now? If I can't remember his pain, it couldn't have been that bad. Right?

Posted by: castleb | December 20, 2010 6:06 PM | Report abuse

Wow. Just--wow. I can't believe he actually said that, out loud, in an interview. That has to be one of the most tone-deaf things all year--heck, in the last generation.

Posted by: NYC123 | December 20, 2010 6:06 PM | Report abuse

And my brother's toothache didn't really hurt [me] at all at the time. Why is he making a fuss about it now? If I can't remember his pain, it couldn't have been that bad. Right?

Posted by: castleb | December 20, 2010 6:05 PM | Report abuse

Haley Barbour is slick, nobody's fool, and ruthlessly partisan. This most likely is a cynical bid to court anti-Obama voters for 2012.

In fairness to the man, though, I will admit that when I was 15 I was far more interested in girls than national leaders. Heck, I'm like that 35 years later.

Posted by: HoyaDon | December 20, 2010 6:04 PM | Report abuse

TO: kfstewart who wrote:
“It doesn't take the leftist WAPO long to do the socialist Dem's bidding by trashing a potential 2012 GOP candidate as soon as he starts being recognized nationally…”

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

If Haley Barbour runs for national office, I don’t care which newspaper carries the articles, Haley Barbour’s memory is going to be refreshed on a daily basis, and as Americans we have every right to make sure his recollections correctly reflect American History.

It just so amazing that he could come out and tell these big lies when he knows he’s going to be put in check.

If you studied American History, then you know Barbour is lying too.

If you’re at least 50 years old, you were there.


Posted by: lindalovejones | December 20, 2010 6:00 PM | Report abuse

Typical southern revisionism. This reminds me of my dad, who was from South Carolina, telling stories about our slaveholding ancestors. Seems all our ancestor's slaves just adored and revered their owners and were disappointed and disoriented when the Civil War (sorry, War of Northern Aggression) ended and they were no longer property. I imagine this tale was told by every family with slaveholders in their line.

True to form, Haley. Well done.

Posted by: B2O2 | December 20, 2010 6:00 PM | Report abuse

What makes this funny looking guy with that wretched southern twang, believes he can be president of this country? Maybe he is drinking too mucn moonshine.

Posted by: truth1 | December 20, 2010 5:59 PM | Report abuse

Replying to: "I have three words to jog Haley Barbour's memory: Chaney, Schwerner, Goodman. Posted by: sensible"

Exactly right, Sensible. But I'm not holding my breath for the good governor to correct the record. It's quite clear that all the candidates for the 2012 Republican presidential nomination are moving as fast to the right as they can.

Posted by: DCSteve1 | December 20, 2010 5:59 PM | Report abuse

The rules governing postings to this column do not permit me to describe Haley accurately. Suffice it to say that he is a through back to the 19th century in the region where he lives. It appears as though some ultra right wingers are trying to invoke the ugly past.

Posted by: fasm7700 | December 20, 2010 5:59 PM | Report abuse

Fat little whitie. We used to call him Dill, because he looked like a pickle.

Posted by: johng1 | December 20, 2010 5:58 PM | Report abuse

There are many southern folks who prefer to have amnesia on the 'unfortunate' treatment of blacks. Why, how could such a thing have happened? No doubt Mr. Barbour was pretty well protected from the 'bogey man', and has selected memories about the 'naughty little things' perpetrated by his fellow 'white folk'.

Posted by: kacameron | December 20, 2010 5:56 PM | Report abuse

People like Barbour probably worship memories of the racist heroes and ne'er do wells of an earlier time. He cannot even get his history straight because his audience is of the ignorant. Those of us who can recall the images of Little Rock, the killing of those little girls in church and the brutalization of John Lewis for walking on the Edmund Pettis Bridge think of Haley Barbour and his types in terms that the WP would find unacceptable. It is a pity that this type of bullfeather is not used as educational material in our schools and churches. Young Black people would understand the importance of many people who did not hesitate to confront this brand of idiocy regardless of the associated brutality.

Posted by: Draesop | December 20, 2010 5:53 PM | Report abuse

Problem with growing up in the old South was that the only non-whites you came in contact with were in menial jobs. Even at the refineries at my hometown, the only job they held was laborer. As a little kid you don't know that the union contract says that is all they can do and that no one will hire them for anything other than a menial job. You assume that it must be because that is all they can handle.

I am forever thankful for the Boy Scout Jamboree I went to with the only integrated troop from the South. All of us white boys left on the trip typical little Southern boys. We came back changed. The train stopped in Dallas so we could go see this great new thing Cinerama. Walked in together and they said sorry, "they have to sit upstairs". So we all headed upstairs, and they said "sorry, you can't go up there". So we collectively said "s---- you" and walked out.

My dad had me talk to his service club and when this smart-a-- kid of 25 said that we needed to integrate post haste, probably most surprising was that most of the folks there seemed to agree with me. Undoubtedly, the time was right - 1955 I think.

Except for the Scouts, I too would probably everything was pretty nice back then. And of course Houston had visionary businessfolk who weren't beholden to redneck, ignorant voters and who just said, let's do it and they did because it was the right thing to do.

Posted by: contrarydave | December 20, 2010 5:52 PM | Report abuse

Of course if Mr. Barbour was black he would have remembered it differently, he does really know how it was though, but chooses to act ignorant, he will have to have a better memory than that if he runs for President

Posted by: audrey2010 | December 20, 2010 5:51 PM | Report abuse

Actually Mr. Barbour, that you think your remark was not racist shows just how clueless you are about racism. Your comment is a terrible disservice to our party and instead of stonewalling, you should just suck it up and apologize. Frankly, if you do not understand your remark to be racist, that worries me much more about you. If that is the case and you do not understand what racism is, then I want you out as our party chairman. Can you not understand how blacks in the south feel about your remark when they were segregated and the rules of interaction between them and whites were so rigid. God help you if you think that mess was OK. It was totally un-Godly!

Posted by: mJJ2 | December 20, 2010 5:51 PM | Report abuse

The neo-confederates want to start up the civil war again.

I say, let's get them off of welfare, starting with conservative-socialist Mississippi:

Federal Tax Burdens and Expenditures: Mississippi is a Beneficiary State
Mississippi taxpayers receive more federal funding per dollar of federal taxes paid compared to the average state. Per dollar of federal tax collected in 2004, Mississippi citizens received approximately $2.02 in the way of federal spending. This ranks the state 2nd highest nationally, and represents a increase from 1995, when Mississippi received $1.54 per dollar of taxes in federal spending and was 3rd highest nationally. Neighboring states and the amount of federal spending they received per dollar of federal taxes paid were: Louisiana ($1.78), Arkansas ($1.41), Tennessee ($1.27), and Alabama ($1.66).

http://www.taxfoundation.org/research/topic/38.html

Posted by: lichtme | December 20, 2010 5:48 PM | Report abuse

I've been around the Carolinas, Georgia, and north Florida enough to appreciate that some communities were far better than others.

To judge from a couple of comments, Yazoo City didn't exactly stand out in a particularly bad state. Nor does Barbour.

Posted by: DaveoftheCoonties | December 20, 2010 5:47 PM | Report abuse

Gee, Haley, I didn't realize what a TOTAL Moron you really are...The reason that YOU don't remember the Civil Rights Era as being "so bad" is because you weren't a BLACK man! Yeeesh! Get a life! Were you so unconscious during the sixties? I'd like to imagine that if the shoe were on the other foot, you WOULD have at least a scintilla of an idea what it was like to be disenfranchised and abused by lesser men! Sadly, there are so MANY of you.

Posted by: billnbillieskid | December 20, 2010 5:46 PM | Report abuse

You can forget the reason for him being out of touch, because it probably came in a can with white foam on the top. A lot of people enjoyed the brew and knew little of what went on, hence it didn't seem like much to them because they were asleep. The only thing you remember from your sleep is maybe a dream and if you are too wasted, you lose that as well.

Posted by: ronjeske | December 20, 2010 5:45 PM | Report abuse

JFK said he did not remember the Depression as bad because he was insulated from it -- otoh, my Dad told me stories of an empty ice box, he as the designated child cook for his family making pickle soup and eating ice once because it was all they had in the house...

My father grew up to vote for JFK, I would think, in part, becuase he recognized Kennedy's empathy. Kennedy was not perfect, but he was not a coward of his class.

But this ko0k and his inartful Alinsky farts, and all the rest of them -- simply comic fodder, and for those who exploit the intellectual weaknesses of the US government, a godsend.

Posted by: thegreatpotatospamof2003 | December 20, 2010 5:44 PM | Report abuse

Barbour 2012!!

Posted by: Jsuf | December 20, 2010 5:42 PM | Report abuse

I have three words to jog Haley Barbour's memory:
Chaney, Schwerner, Goodman

Posted by: sensible | December 20, 2010 5:40 PM | Report abuse

Haley...from your front porch it probably did not look that bad..but from the streets of those Southern towns, where whites attacked blacks...to the college campus where the black students had to be protected by federal troops..to the river bottoms where the young white and black civil rights workers bodies were found..it was REAL BAD...

I know because I lived it and many of my friends where there...

But then, what would we expect from some one like you, who as made a life times work out of saying one thing and doing the exact opposite...

Posted by: meyer390 | December 20, 2010 5:38 PM | Report abuse

Haley...from your front porch it probably did not look that bad..but from the streets of those Southern towns, where whites attacked blacks...to the college campus where the black students had to be protected by federal troops..to the river bottoms where the young white and black civil rights workers bodies were found..it was REAL BAD...

I know because I lived it and many of my friends where there...

But then, what would we expect from some one like you, who as made a life times work out of saying one thing and doing the exact opposite...

Posted by: meyer390 | December 20, 2010 5:38 PM | Report abuse

Haley doesn't remember it because the dogs and fire hoses weren't trained on him. Nor does he care.

All this is coming out because he's playing to the great many white southerners who still believe that integration was wrong, blacks should ride at the back of the bus and that lynching is an acceptable form of law enforcement.

Decent people know what you are, Haley. We just don't like it, or you. Kind of makes you wonder why the white Bible thumpers haven't been heard from!

Posted by: joachim1 | December 20, 2010 5:37 PM | Report abuse

Anyone who believes that "FormerDemocrat" ever WAS one (just a pathetic, pond scum RNC plant) must also believe that Caribou Barbie is really a rocket scientist. REWARD THE RICH, PUNISH THE POOR - VOTE REPUBLICAN!

Posted by: Bushwhacked1 | December 20, 2010 5:37 PM | Report abuse

Personal remembrances of poltical/social events occuring when you are in your teens or early 20s are often blurry.

Young people study. They work to pay college tuition. They play sports. They flirt with the opposite sex. For many, that's a fulltime occupation. That's on reason why voter participation is low among young adults.

For many, that's the best time of their lives regardless of what else is happening in the world. Even many members of the World War II generation often have good memories. They often blot out the bad memories.

That's a defense mechanism many successful people have. It enables them to move forward with their lives. So, its not unusual to remember a troubled time through a happy prism.

Personal memories are not history. Good things happen even in the worst of times. Ask Charles Dickens.

If Governor Barbour was representing his personal experience as a history of the times, he's on the wrong track. If, however, he was merely sharing his personal recollections, the people pouncing on them are showing they have an ax to grind.

Posted by: jfv123 | December 20, 2010 5:34 PM | Report abuse

DOG WHISTLE!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: danw1 | December
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No.

Here let me help you:

Ko0k FART!!!!!!!!!!!!!

(Pssst -- he's really THAT dumb)

Posted by: thegreatpotatospamof2003 | December 20, 2010 5:32 PM | Report abuse

For those of you who really care about Haley Barbour's ignorant comments, let me recommend a great book written by Pulitzer Prize author Jack Nelson entitled "Terror in the Night". The book is about Klan activity in Mississippi during the 1960s.

Posted by: jms3rd | December 20, 2010 5:26 PM | Report abuse

It's called empathy -- for genteel southern white boys insulated from the ugliness of the lynchings, church burnings and murders of civil rights workers. His world is the scent of sweet magnolias enjoyed with a mint julep on the veranda whlie the contented coloreds sing happily in the background as they gather good ole massa's cotton. Nope, not too bad at all.

Posted by: Natmeister | December 20, 2010 5:24 PM | Report abuse

I am the same age as Barbour and grew up in Dallas. I could say the same things he did - I don't remember it being that bad. But that just shows how segregated we were. Today I have white friends in South Africa. They also say they don't remember it being that bad. The difference is that they and I now know it was.

Posted by: RHouck | December 20, 2010 5:24 PM | Report abuse

I am the same age as Barbour and grew up in Dallas. I could say the same things he did - I don't remember it being that bad. But that just shows how segregated we were. Today I have white friends in South Africa. They also say they don't remember it being that bad. The difference is that they and I now know it was.

Posted by: RHouck | December 20, 2010 5:24 PM | Report abuse

DOG WHISTLE!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: danw1 | December 20, 2010 5:23 PM | Report abuse

It doesn't take the leftist WAPO long to do the socialist Dem's bidding by trashing a potential 2012 GOP candidate as soon as he starts being recognized nationally. WAPO would make the good old boys at Pravda, Isvestia, and Tass proud. By the way, I can't ever remember WAPO making an issue of Dem Senator Robert Byrd's KKK memebership.....

Posted by: kfstewart | December 20, 2010 5:21 PM | Report abuse

Haley Barbour is the worst kind of racist, one who tries to couch his own bigotry in revisionist history. And his apologists are either ignorant fools or fellow racists. I hope he does run for president so it will once again expose the RepubliKLAN Party for the racist bund it is.

Posted by: ElectricBill | December 20, 2010 5:19 PM | Report abuse

Haley Barbour is the worst kind of racist, one who tries to couch his own bigotry in revisionist history. And his apologists are either ignorant fools or fellow racists. I hope he does run for president so it will once again expose the RepubliKLAN Party for the racist bund it is.

Posted by: ElectricBill | December 20, 2010 5:17 PM | Report abuse

"Pretty sure the Democrats already did that.

Thanks for playin' though.

Posted by: etpietro | December 20, 2010 5:05 PM | Report abuse"

You can thank the good Republican voters of West Virginia, who loved the pork ol' Bobby Byrd brought home. Those good Republicans didn't mind either Byrd's brief Klan membership or his earmarks.

Thanks for playin' though.

Posted by: Observer691 | December 20, 2010 5:16 PM | Report abuse

Haley Barbour is the worst kind of racist, one who tries to couch his own bigotry in revisionist history. And his apologists are either ignorant fools or fellow racists. I hope he does run for president so it will once again expose the RepubliKLAN Party for the racist bund it is.

Posted by: ElectricBill | December 20, 2010 5:16 PM | Report abuse

TO: FormerDemocrat who wrote:
“The Democratic Party NEEDS for America to be a bad, horrible place. It is the VICTIM party, and the only way to be the VICTIM party, is for victims to be abused.
Reality: The Civil Rights era, from 1854 to the present has been DOMINATED by the Democratic Party VICTIMIZING African Americans, and the REPUBLICAN PARTY forging ahead to stand up for the Civil Rights of African Americans…”

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

YOU LIE!

Do you realize that more than 100,000,000 American People know you’re lying?

Even children all over the world who study United States History know you’re lying.

The Republican Party never has stood up for Civil Rights OR African Americans, which is why virtually NO African Americans are Republican.


Posted by: lindalovejones | December 20, 2010 5:15 PM | Report abuse

FormerDemocrat must be really, really, REALLY stupid if he thinks anyone believes he was ever a Democrat.

Posted by: Observer691 | December 20, 2010 5:12 PM | Report abuse

Well, it wasn't bad for a white dude.

Posted by: mypitts2 | December 20, 2010 5:11 PM | Report abuse

IMO Barbour is the republican party machines desired candidate. So they will do their best to get all of Barbour's mis-speaks out in the open early.
Barbour still has to come to grips with the fact he's governor of a welfare state and ain't done nothing to improve the situation for the citizens of Mississippi.

Posted by: knjincvc | December 20, 2010 5:10 PM | Report abuse

FormerDemocrat must be really, really, REALLY stupid if he thinks anyone believes he was ever a Democrat.

Posted by: Observer691 | December 20, 2010 5:09 PM | Report abuse

Please... someone tell me they believed that desegregation was supposed to happen overnight and without trouble.

LMAO

Posted by: blasmaic | December 20, 2010 5:08 PM | Report abuse

Barbour is not the first and won't be the last white man to express this kind of arrogance. ONLY a white man uses such language. I heard a priest in my own living room say that the civil right movement really failed to achieve much. I gave him the same "what . . .are you talking about?" What a disgrace to the history of this country. But ignorance is rampant. This man is DANGEROUS and should go back to the sticks where he belongs.

Posted by: mb1957 | December 20, 2010 5:07 PM | Report abuse

TO: FormerDemocrat who wrote:
“The Democratic Party NEEDS for America to be a bad, horrible place. It is the VICTIM party, and the only way to be the VICTIM party, is for victims to be abused.
Reality: The Civil Rights era, from 1854 to the present has been DOMINATED by the Democratic Party VICTIMIZING African Americans, and the REPUBLICAN PARTY forging ahead to stand up for the Civil Rights of African Americans…”

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

YOU LIE!

Do you realize that more than 100,000,000 American People know you’re lying?

Even children all over the world who study United States History know you’re lying.

The Republican Party never has stood up for Civil Rights OR African Americans, which is why virtually NO African Americans are Republican.


Posted by: lindalovejones | December 20, 2010 5:06 PM | Report abuse

Other southern states thank God for Haley 'I'm a fat redneck' Barbour because it keeps them from being the butt of all the jokes.

It's nice to see the rest of the world picking up on what some of us have known for years.

Posted by: dablues1 | December 20, 2010 5:06 PM | Report abuse

it's perfectly ok to be a racist in today's gop, what next a open klan senator or congressman?

Posted by: calif-joe
_______________________________

Pretty sure the Democrats already did that.

Thanks for playin' though.

Posted by: etpietro | December 20, 2010 5:05 PM | Report abuse

Haley Barbour may have been eight years old in 1955, but he was SEVENTEEN in 1964. Seriously, who could be worse for the GOP -- Sister Sarah, who makes stuff up, or Haley Barbour, the big fat white guy who still thinks things were just peachy under segregation? And the White Citizen's Council was just the Klan in a suit and tie. They looked the other way while their country cracker cousins were terrorizing the countryside.

Posted by: EAHarrison | December 20, 2010 5:05 PM | Report abuse

Other southern states thank God for Haley 'I'm a fat redneck' Barbour because it keeps them from being the butt of all the jokes.

It's nice to see the rest of the world picking up on what some of us have known for years.

Posted by: dablues1 | December 20, 2010 5:04 PM | Report abuse

The Post is trying to make it sound like Barbour said "Segregation wasn't so bad". He did not. The civil rights era was a process, and Rosa Parks did not sit on the back of the bus throughout it, everywhere. He's talking Yazoo City in 1962 forward. Yes, I can certainly believe that a good portion of the battle had been won by then. What's important is the stupidity of his comment though. There's no political advantage in saying stuff like that. It's like saying Hitler built excellent autobahns. Possibly true, but totally unwise.

Posted by: Nemo24601 | December 20, 2010 5:04 PM | Report abuse

Barbour's "amnesia" about the civil rights era, about race relations in America past, present and future are reflected in the similar responses to pollsters when people are asked about what they think about racism in this country.

It is never surprising that most white Americans think things are "not that bad." Not only have they glossed over difficult times, but like Barbour they've rewritten, revised and expunged history -- even their personal histories -- to present a more rosy view. Let's face it: Barbour didn't go to the King speech to pick up pretty white girls (as the other kind were certainly 'off limits') but like most young men he went because there might have been trouble, there might have been violence and there might have been the chance to take part, right along side his friends and neighbors.

I've always wondered what ever happened to the white bystanders and participants in the scenes of racial violence captured by some of the most celebrated photographers of the civil rights era. Faces, young and old, male and female, contorted by hatred and frankly, bloodlust. One day, someone will recognize the pudgy face and spiky crewcut of a young Haley Barbour.

Posted by: jade_7243 | December 20, 2010 5:03 PM | Report abuse

Just another example of a right-wing racist KKK republican thug, aka a rethuglican who has gotten by pretty easy in his podunk, downhome, good-ol' boy enclave of Mississippi.

Try that lingo in the rest of the 49 states and you won't get too far, unless you're catering to the stooopid crowd that reads and comments on many of these WaPo articles and come out from their wood shacks in the boondocks surrounding DC to comment on these threads.

Posted by: dc1020008 | December 20, 2010 5:03 PM | Report abuse

I'm rooting for a Palin-Barbour ticket for the GOP in '12.

Posted by: nyskinsdiehard | December 20, 2010 5:01 PM | Report abuse

TO: Charley_XF who wrote:
"I would vote for him tomorrow. Twice.
The libtards must be nervous or they wouldn't bother to attack.
Pass me a Slurpee you bedwetters."
_______________

Could you be any more shallow?

You remind me of Mitch McConnell; always has his eye on the POTUS waiting anxiously to see what the President will do, so that he can do the opposite.

Sure, run Haley Barbour as the Republican Nominee.

You won't even be able to get 1/2 of the white people in this country to vote for him, and definitely not one single minority, or Jew, or anybody who is not mixed with something.

KKK couldn't stand anybody except lilly white caucasions.

This guy would be forced to drop out of the race for POTUS even quicker than your Republican Nominee who claimed he saw flying saucers.


Posted by: lindalovejones | December 20, 2010 5:00 PM | Report abuse

The Democratic Party NEEDS for America to be a bad, horrible place. It is the VICTIM party, and the only way to be the VICTIM party, is for victims to be abused.


Reality: The Civil Rights era, from 1854 to the present has been DOMINATED by the Democratic Party VICTIMIZING African Americans, and the REPUBLICAN PARTY forging ahead to stand up for the Civil Rights of African Americans.

The Washington Post is victimizing all of us with their RECONSTRUCTION of history in the Marxist, Socialist perspective.

Posted by: FormerDemocrat | December 20, 2010 4:58 PM | Report abuse

Haley looks like a perfect fit for being a can be a stand in for the new movie Deliverance..
subtitled
Mississippi Swamp Redemption!

Posted by: pdq3 | December 20, 2010 4:55 PM | Report abuse

It is politically incorrect to tell the truth about civil rights. Most blacks today, except for the black bourgeois like Obama, are no bettewr off. In fact they were better off on ante-bellum plantations, better than living in crack houses in Detroikt or Camden, NJ.

Posted by: ravitchn | December 20, 2010 4:53 PM | Report abuse

That's one of the most asinine statement I have ever heard come out of the mouth of any public official. Of couurse everything was peachy for him he was not being hosed, killed or persecuted. I guess this is his first salvo in seeking the Republican nomination for president. This will not prevent him in any shape or form from getting the nomination. He is only shoring up his base. This is what his base wants to hear and he has delivered in spades.

Posted by: clarendon67 | December 20, 2010 4:50 PM | Report abuse

I think it's his point of view, which doesn't seem to encompass much imagination. The last time I was in the south which wasn't all that long ago, blacks still seemed afraid to make eye contact.

Posted by: zorro2 | December 20, 2010 4:49 PM | Report abuse

2011 and 2012
the years
of
forgotten
GOP Resurrection Recognition

Posted by: pdq3 | December 20, 2010 4:47 PM | Report abuse

TO: vztownes who wrote:
“So Haley Barbour is another in a long line of very stupid white racist politicians from Mississippi. What exactly is newsworthy about that?”

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Barbour is trying to get the Republican Nomination for President of the United States.

That’s why it’s newsworthy, because Barbour is coming off the starting line with nothing but lies. By the time the press and black people who survived long enough to leave Mississippi get finished with Barbour he’ll be the laughing stock all over the world and so will the Republican Party for nominating the Grand Wizard of the Klu Klux Klan for POTUS.

Then everybody will agree that these haters who've been dogging President Obama are in fact racists.

Posted by: lindalovejones | December 20, 2010 4:43 PM | Report abuse

I'm sure that era was just fine for a myopic buffoon like Barbour.

Posted by: rfitz_511 | December 20, 2010 4:42 PM | Report abuse

I read a story last week about psychological studies showing that wealthy people have a difficult time empathizing with others. I suspect that this inability to imagine yourself in the shoes of someone else is exactly what plagues Haley Barbour and many other conservatives. They really don't get it. Some would call these people callous. I call them Republicans.

Posted by: dparks2 | December 20, 2010 4:40 PM | Report abuse

Well, of course YOU don't remember it being so bad, you idjit. You were never on the wrong side of a fire hose.

Posted by: bmschumacher | December 20, 2010 4:39 PM | Report abuse

in 1964, the summer Goodwin, Schwerner and Chaney were murdered in Mississippi with local police complicit - Haley would have been 17.

Posted by: funkey | December 20, 2010 4:38 PM | Report abuse

Well, of course YOU don't remember it being so bad, you idjit.

Posted by: bmschumacher | December 20, 2010 4:38 PM | Report abuse

It's probably true what Haley Barbour said, concerning his personal experience about the Civil Rights era not being that bad.

I think I understand what Barbour is saying and how he perceived the Civil Rights Era, and that is if you were a white American, who grew up during that era and witnessed Black folks being water hosed by the police, beaten with billy clubs, dogs unleashed on them and bitten, little girls blown up in church houses, folks hung from trees, crosses burned in their yards, et al, I guess it wouldn't seem that bad either, since it was considered the NORM for many white folks to attack, torture, and murder black folks. It was normal.

When you are the one holding, swinging, and dangling that noose in your hand, things wouldn't look so bad from your perspective, either, during that era. It would be normal and not considered to have been so bad. At least for white folks.

Posted by: lcarter0311 | December 20, 2010 4:35 PM | Report abuse

Anybody remember the movie "Mississippi Burning" the story of the 3 civil rights workers that were killed in Mississippi for trying to register blacks to vote, based on that true story.

Man alive! Mississippi was the worse possible State for a black person to live, Alabama was 2nd.

Racial prejudice was born and thrived in Mississippi, and it was home of the KKK.

All this tells me is Republicans have been doing horrible things for generations, and then lying straight out about their history.

Anybody who cares to can take a look in some our history books, including the passage of the Civil Rights Act and how all those Southern Democrats fled the Democrat Party and all became Republicans because they couldn't stand the thought of black people being entitled to the same freedoms as Whites had.

Shame on Haley Bourbour for his horrible lies.


Posted by: lindalovejones | December 20, 2010 4:34 PM | Report abuse

So Haley Barbour is another in a long line of very stupid white racist politicians from Mississippi. What exactly is newsworthy about that?

Posted by: vztownes | December 20, 2010 4:33 PM | Report abuse

I don't necessarily think he's a racist but I do think he would have a totally different frame of reference if he was one of the black folks of that era that were attacked by the very police that were supposed to protect them!

Posted by: Angryman | December 20, 2010 4:30 PM | Report abuse

Haley must have just watched some Hallmark movie of the week.

Posted by: cile92 | December 20, 2010 4:28 PM | Report abuse

I want Barbour in 2012. It is the best thing the GOP can do. Go Haley!

Posted by: citizen625 | December 20, 2010 4:24 PM | Report abuse

dandean, the Civil Rights movement ran well into the 1960s. It was President Johnson who signed the Civil Rights Bill, not Eisenhower.

A little knowledge of history is required before you embarrass yourself and once again prove the right-wing assault on the United States and the American people is very misinformed.

Posted by: BigTrees | December 20, 2010 4:18 PM | Report abuse

The Simpsons faux slogan for Fox news is equally applicable to large portions of the GOP:
"Not racist, but #1 with Racists!"

Posted by: funkey | December 20, 2010 4:16 PM | Report abuse

In 1955 Haley Barbour was 8 years old. A little context would have been helpful.

Posted by: dandean | December 20, 2010 4:15 PM | Report abuse

Haley Barbour. He was the governor who redirected $65 million earmarked to rebuild low-income housing in Mississippi after Katrina to build a casino.

What happened to all those low-income people this regressive anarchist threw away in favor of BIG BUSINESS?

Every time the GOP is in control humanity loses.

Posted by: BigTrees | December 20, 2010 4:14 PM | Report abuse

In 1955 Haley Barbour was 8 years old. A little context would have been helpful.

Posted by: dandean | December 20, 2010 4:14 PM | Report abuse

In a political environment where "nullification" has made a comeback and people are seriously proposing a Constitutional amendment to permit 2/3 of the states to nullify acts of Congress, no amount of Southern reivisonism would surprise me.

The success of this nonsense -- no, not just nonsense, but rather deliberate lies about some of the most important events of the century -- depends upon the ignorance and gullibility of the American public, which seems to have no limits. If Sarah Palin can be taken seriously, anyone can.

Posted by: Meridian1 | December 20, 2010 4:13 PM | Report abuse

Not only a 'Boss Hogg', but a capable one to boot.

Posted by: hared | December 20, 2010 4:12 PM | Report abuse

""it's perfectly ok to be a racist in today's gop, what next a open klan senator or congressman?"

Already happened--his name was Robert Byrd (D-WV).

Posted by: RightWinger2 | December 20, 2010 3:52 PM | Report abuse"

And you can blame the ignorant trailer-trash voters of West Virginia, most of whom vote REPUBLICAN.

Posted by: Observer691 | December 20, 2010 4:11 PM | Report abuse

I would vote for him tomorrow. Twice.

The libtards must be nervous or they wouldn't bother to attack.

Pass me a Slurpee you bedwetters.

Posted by: Charley_XF | December 20, 2010 3:55 PM | Report abuse

"it's perfectly ok to be a racist in today's gop, what next a open klan senator or congressman?"

Already happened--his name was Robert Byrd (D-WV).

Posted by: RightWinger2 | December 20, 2010 3:52 PM | Report abuse

While Barbour's past may play well to the GOP base, even many of them will recognize the problem it would present in a general election. The Repubs with brains (as much as the teabaggers are trying to purge them from the party) will recognize that they need to put a better face on the party or the moderates will abandon them in droves again. Of course, there aren't alot of faces that are much better available to them.

Posted by: luridone | December 20, 2010 3:51 PM | Report abuse

Boss Hogg reincarnated ... phat phuque ... of course he doesn't remember it as being bad ... he is wealthy and white.

Barbour / Palin in 2012 ... that would be a gift from the GODS for the DEMOCRATS!

Posted by: rusty44 | December 20, 2010 3:50 PM | Report abuse

Barbour and his spokesman seem to have conveniently forgotten that the "Citizens Councils" were originally called the "White Citizens Councils" -- note the WCC abbreviation in the Halberstam quotation. These were NOT multiethnic groups of moderate citizens espousing civic reforms.

Posted by: russpittman | December 20, 2010 3:38 PM | Report abuse

ROTFLMAO.

Big fat 'publican chubb don't know nothing bout no civil rights, then or now.

But he sure is smart enough to run this country...

LOLOLOLOL

The DUMBEST, ever...

Bring it, butch!

Posted by: thegreatpotatospamof2003 | December 20, 2010 3:35 PM | Report abuse

Wow, wow, wow. How do you even react to something like this? I will be grateful when his generation of like-minds is extinct.

Posted by: notfooledbydistractions1 | December 20, 2010 3:34 PM | Report abuse

Of course he does not remember the civil rights era being that bad. He was a white neo-klansman! He also is a believer in the "south will rise again".

The GOP is the new KKK. Different label same racists.

Posted by: rcc_2000 | December 20, 2010 3:27 PM | Report abuse

And that is the America that the Repuglicans and Tea Baggers want back.

Posted by: docmaxx | December 20, 2010 3:22 PM | Report abuse

The poll is flawed. Barbour is a racial troglodyte, but that fact won't hurt him at all among his natural base; it's an asset!

Posted by: joe6 | December 20, 2010 3:21 PM | Report abuse

Of course he didn't. He wasn't a poor black child.

Posted by: areyousaying | December 20, 2010 3:21 PM | Report abuse

He is from the Deep South what can you expect from him he has a whole different way of thinking than most everybody out of the bible belt south. That is why he stand no chance of successfully running for our nations highest office.

Posted by: PennyWisetheClown | December 20, 2010 3:20 PM | Report abuse

it's perfectly ok to be a racist in today's gop, what next a open klan senator or congressman?

Posted by: calif-joe | December 20, 2010 3:19 PM | Report abuse

He's a redneck. What do you expect?

Posted by: TOMHERE | December 20, 2010 3:19 PM | Report abuse

He's a redneck. What do you expect?

Posted by: TOMHERE | December 20, 2010 3:19 PM | Report abuse

Barbour needs to show that he can look past his own immediate experience and recognize the big picture if he's ever to be taken seriously as a presidential candidate. His outlook may play well in Yazoo City, but you need more than that if you're going to go national.

Posted by: drazen1 | December 20, 2010 3:19 PM | Report abuse

Haley "Boss Hog" Barbour strikes again!

Posted by: B-rod | December 20, 2010 3:16 PM | Report abuse

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