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Posted at 8:53 AM ET, 01/ 9/2011

John Boehner decries attacks in brief remarks

By Dan Eggen

House Speaker John A. Boehner (R-Ohio) on Sunday decried the shooting rampage that critically wounded a Democratic congresswoman and killed one of her aides, saying that "an attack on one who serves is an attack on all who serve."

Boehner also said the shooting of Rep. Gabrielle Giffords (D-Ariz.) should not discourage other lawmakers from continuing to serve their constituents.

"No act, however heinous, must be allowed to stop us from our duty," Boehner said Sunday morning in brief remarks at his local office in suburban Cincinnati.

Boehner said flags on the House side of the Capitol will be flown at half staff to honor Giffords' slain aide, Gabe Zimmerman, 30, who was among those killed in the rampage.

The comments came just four days after Boehner and Giffords stood together smiling for photographers at the U.S. Capitol, where she and other members of the House were sworn in for the 112th Congress. Boehner said the House would postpone votes scheduled for the coming week in light of the shooting, including GOP plans to vote for repeal of President Obama's health-care law, which Giffords supported.

Giffords was among at least 18 people shot by a gunman who approached the representative as she was hosting a "Congress on Your Corner" event in front of a Tucson Safeway store. Six people died, including federal judge John Roll and a 9-year-old girl. Giffords, who was shot once in the head, remained hospitalized Sunday in critical condition.

Authorities have arrested 22-year-old Jared Loughner of Tucson in connection with the rampage.

The shootings have reignited debate over the increasing use of incendiary and often violent language in U.S. politics. Boehner faced criticism last year for saying that then-Rep. Steve Dreihaus (D-Ohio) "may be a dead man" because he voted in favor of President Obama's health-care overhaul. "He can't go home to the west side of Cincinnati," Boehner told The National Review.

Boehner later said the comments were meant figuratively to describe the political peril facing Dreihaus because of his health-care vote. But Dreihaus, who was defeated in November, sharply criticized Boehner and other Republican lawmakers for using stark and violent imagery in reference to their opponents.

"These comments that have been made by Republican leaders can serve as--I don't know if I want to say an excuse or perhaps permission for people who may be unbalanced, who may be calling with these threats," Dreihaus said in March 2010, adding: "It doesn't really matter the way you meant it, nor the way I accept it. It's how the least sane person in my district accepts it."

By Dan Eggen  | January 9, 2011; 8:53 AM ET
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Comments

My solemn thoughts and condolences go out to the victims of this senseless attack.

Along with these, my fervent hope that sweeping hateful generalizations about any group based on the actions of sick individuals can calm down in the face of a tragedy like this. These generalizations are no more laudable when leveled against Representative Giffords and her party than are when leveled against the Tea Party or any other group.

Individuals like Jared Loughner will eventually have to answer for their actions. Combating hateful rhetoric about Representative Giffords with hateful rhetoric about her opponents serves no one.

Be the better person you demand of others.

Posted by: RichardStands | January 9, 2011 8:36 PM | Report abuse

My solemn thoughts and condolences go out to the victims of this senseless attack.

Along with these, my fervent hope that sweeping hateful generalizations about any group based on the actions of sick individuals can calm down in the face of a tragedy like this. These generalizations are no more laudable when leveled against Representative Giffords and her party than are when leveled against the Tea Party or any other group.

Individuals like Jared Loughner will eventually have to answer for their actions. Combating hateful rhetoric about Representative Giffords with hateful rhetoric about her opponents serves no one.

Be the better person you demand of others.

Posted by: RichardStands | January 9, 2011 8:34 PM | Report abuse

Fox News and the Republicans. Mr. Crybaby didn't decry any of this violent rhetoric before the rampage and he really isn't owning it now. Palin wasn't calling her crosshairs surveyor's targets when Gifford called her out. As long as it is dead and maimed Democrats when the crazies fed the crazy pills lock and load, I don't think they really care. A win is a win.

Posted by: SarahBB | January 9, 2011 3:30 PM | Report abuse

I find it most enlightening that after something like this happens then and only then comes the "decrying" of the hateful comments. One can be part of the answer or part of the problem. Boehner chose his position during his interview with Brian William. I see him as part of the problem.

Posted by: cp701 | January 9, 2011 3:21 PM | Report abuse

I find it most enlightening that after something like this happens then and only then comes the "decrying" of the hateful comments. One can be part of the answer or part of the problem. Boehner chose his position during his interview with Brian William. I see him as part of the problem.

Posted by: cp701 | January 9, 2011 3:18 PM | Report abuse

I find it most enlightening that after something like this happens then and only then comes the "decrying" of the hateful comments. One can be part of the answer or part of the problem. Boehner chose his position during his interview with Brian William. I see him as part of the problem.

Posted by: cp701 | January 9, 2011 3:17 PM | Report abuse

You seriously angry about Democrats enacting Health Insurance Reform? Then take your gun and go out and kill Democrats.

Posted by: BlueTwo1

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Actually, it turns out that the guy killed her because she was too Conservative.

Anywho, it doesn’t matter. This is a random tragedy perpetrated by a lone mad-man. It’s not something that either side should be making political hay out of.

Seriously, some of you guys make me sick – “Oh wow, look at all that blood, these were all perfectly nice Americans minding their own business a few minutes ago, now they’re lying dead in pools of their own blood. HOW CAN I TURN THIS TO MY OWN PERSONAL POLITICAL ADVANTAGE?”

Sick.

.

Posted by: ZZim | January 9, 2011 3:10 PM | Report abuse

Hey Boehner, are you using this opportunity to start backing out of the "reforms" ya'll made to "THE AMERICAN PEOPLE, you know, the real ones"? What's next? JOBS?

I sure hope all those people who got shot have insurance...

Peace to all the families involved in this.

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Posted by: Evenfoolsarerightsometimes | January 9, 2011 3:04 PM | Report abuse

The hypocrite Boehner by dismissing the bipartisan CBO analysis on the economic effect of the health care legislation he in fact becomes the leader of the radicals and tea party ultra conservatives like Sara Palin.

He needs to change his tone and move to the center, by bringing the repeal of the heath care legislation he will only continue to divide and polarized the nation.

Posted by: tepexpan | January 9, 2011 3:02 PM | Report abuse

You seriously angry about Democrats enacting Health Insurance Reform? Then take your gun and go out and kill Democrats.

Posted by: BlueTwo1

= = = = = = = = =

Actually, it turns out that the guy killed her because she was too Conservative.

Anywho, it doesn’t matter. This is a random tragedy perpetrated by a lone mad-man. It’s not something that either side should be making political hay out of.

Seriously, some of you guys make me sick – “Oh wow, look at all that blood, these were all perfectly nice Americans minding their own business a few minutes ago, now they’re lying dead in pools of their own blood. HOW CAN I TURN THIS TO MY OWN PERSONAL POLITICAL ADVANTAGE?”

Sick.

.

Posted by: ZZim | January 9, 2011 3:01 PM | Report abuse

Once again, a situation where the gun laws are such that any looney tune can get a gun. Some say gun control does not work. It has never been tried, not if you can't get a gun in New York but can acquire a boxcar full in Virginia. I don't want to deny responsible people a gun but everytime any law regarding guns is considered, the NRA cries that puts us on a slippery slope towards denial of gun rights. So all gun laws are opposed by the NRA and this is the result. It still baffles me that one can own a gun without taking a test but cannot drive a car without taking a test and obtaining a license. And the NRA wants any type of weapon to be available. So who will be the first to build and own a nuclear device?

Posted by: TJDemo | January 9, 2011 2:49 PM | Report abuse

if an attack on those who serve is an attack on all who serve, why isn't an attack on those unemployed for 99 weeks not an attack on all the unemployed? why isn't an attack on those who don't serve an attack on all who serve?

because elite judeo-christian white supremacists - like Boehner (and the Lott of them) consider those who do not have power or wealth to be "insignificant" (just as Boehner et. al. consider those who are gay and want to get married or serve in the armed forces... just as Boehner et. al. consider the rights of parents who are not married [i.e., e.g.: “{W}hen the custody of children is the question … the best interest of the children is the paramount fact. {Constitutional and inalienable} rights of father and mother sink into insignificance before that.” Kartman v. Kartman, 163 Md. 19, 22,161 A. 269 {1932}])

an attack on those who want to serve, get married, or share custody of their children regardless of their marital status is an attack on all citizen's rights!

but don't tell that to those who take a false oath to support and be bound thereby to:

"Amendment 9 The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people."

and
"Amendment 10 The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people."

and
Amendment 14 (Ratified July 9, 1868) Section 1. All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws….


... and other supreme law

Posted by: stephendavid2002 | January 9, 2011 2:46 PM | Report abuse

The Boner needs to do more than offer "lip service" and shedding a few tears for the shooting of children on American soil by American terrorists. Time to "man up" and take on the Palins, Limbaughs, Becks, O'Rileys, Angles, Brewers, Wests, Bachmans,and others that make a living at spewing hate and violence in this country. These hate-mongers recruit nuts like the Tuscon shooter to do their dirty work and then sit back and act as if they are not involved or had anything to do with it. The Sheriff was 100% correct in laying the blame at their feet. Let's hope there are more leaders out there with the balls to do the same.

Posted by: inewsmaster | January 9, 2011 2:46 PM | Report abuse

Speaker Bonehead is a disingenuous ass.

Posted by: aragon86 | January 9, 2011 12:49 PM |
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He cries Crocodile Tears.
He decries Crocodile Tears too.

Amongst Conservatives, that's considered bedrock consistency.

Posted by: gannon_dick | January 9, 2011 2:42 PM | Report abuse

MAMA GRISLY!
See You In Tea.

Posted by: TOMHERE | January 9, 2011 2:41 PM | Report abuse

Inconvenient reality check for all those leftists trying to link the Marxist Jared Laughner with anyone or anything libertarian or conservative:

If Mein Kampf and The Communist Manifesto are among your favorite books, you are a Marxist. You are certainly not a freedom-loving libertarian or conservative.

Hitler was a Marxist. NAZI is an acronym that stands for National Socialist German Workers Party. Lenin was a Marxist as was Stalin as was Mao as was Obama, Sr. Fidel Castro, Hugo Chavez and Clueless Comrade Barry - sharing the dream of his father - are all Marxists.

You can split hairs over the supposed dissimilarities between Marxism, socialism, fascism and communism but they are all distinctions without a difference.

In the end, they are all variations of the Marxist concept of collective ownership and all circumvent and ultimately destroy the natural rights of individuals to own property and make their own financial and even personal decisions.

And they never stop there. Whether it’s a case of power corrupting or simply those in power doing what is required to maintain their oligarchies, Marxists always find it necessary to grant ever greater powers to the State. It is no mere coincidence that the greatest mass murderers in history, Hitler (20 million), Lenin and Stalin (62 million), and Mao (76 million), have all been Marxists.

So is it really all that surprising that the left would immediately and without the slightest hesitation attempt to exploit the violence perpetrated by one of its own for political advantage?

The left has no conscience. They only have a goal. To them, their end justifies all means. They have no need for facts or logic or fairness. They have their illusions. They have their “conscious dreams” and that is all they need to justify anything and everything.

Every article, every blog, every opinion piece that attempts to link the actions of the Marxist Jared Laughner with any libertarian or conservative public figure underscores this point over and over again.

Posted by: LePauvrePapillon | January 9, 2011 2:38 PM | Report abuse

Inconvenient reality check for all those leftists trying to link the Marxist Jared Laughner with anyone or anything libertarian or conservative:

If Mein Kampf and The Communist Manifesto are among your favorite books, you are a Marxist. You are certainly not a freedom-loving libertarian or conservative.

Hitler was a Marxist. NAZI is an acronym that stands for National Socialist German Workers Party. Lenin was a Marxist as was Stalin as was Mao as was Obama, Sr. Fidel Castro, Hugo Chavez and Clueless Comrade Barry - sharing the dream of his father - are all Marxists.

You can split hairs over the supposed dissimilarities between Marxism, socialism, fascism and communism but they are all distinctions without a difference.

In the end, they are all variations of the Marxist concept of collective ownership and all circumvent and ultimately destroy the natural rights of individuals to own property and make their own financial and even personal decisions.

And they never stop there. Whether it’s a case of power corrupting or simply those in power doing what is required to maintain their oligarchies, Marxists always find it necessary to grant ever greater powers to the State. It is no mere coincidence that the greatest mass murderers in history, Hitler (20 million), Lenin and Stalin (62 million), and Mao (76 million), have all been Marxists.

So is it really all that surprising that the left would immediately and without the slightest hesitation attempt to exploit the violence perpetrated by one of its own for political advantage?

The left has no conscience. They only have a goal. To them, their end justifies all means. They have no need for facts or logic or fairness. They have their illusions. They have their “conscious dreams” and that is all they need to justify anything and everything.

Every article, every blog, every opinion piece that attempts to link the actions of the Marxist Jared Laughner with any libertarian or conservative public figure underscores this point over and over again.

Posted by: LePauvrePapillon | January 9, 2011 2:37 PM | Report abuse

Inconvenient reality check for those attempting to link the Marxist Jared Laughner with anyone or anything libertarian or conservative:

If Mein Kampf and The Communist Manifesto are among your favorite books, you are a Marxist. You are certainly not a freedom-loving libertarian or conservative.

Hitler was a Marxist. NAZI is an acronym that stands for National Socialist German Workers Party. Lenin was a Marxist as was Stalin as was Mao as was Obama, Sr. Fidel Castro, Hugo Chavez and Clueless Comrade Barry - sharing the dream of his father - are all Marxists.

You can split hairs over the supposed dissimilarities between Marxism, socialism, fascism and communism but they are all distinctions without a difference.

In the end, they are all variations of the Marxist concept of collective ownership and all circumvent and ultimately destroy the natural rights of individuals to own property and make their own financial and even personal decisions.

And they never stop there.

Whether it’s a case of power corrupting or simply those in power doing what is required to maintain their oligarchies, Marxists always find it necessary to grant ever greater powers to the State. It is no mere coincidence that the greatest mass murderers in history, Hitler (20 million), Lenin and Stalin (62 million), and Mao (76 million), have all been Marxists.

So is it really all that surprising that the left would immediately and without the slightest hesitation attempt to exploit the violence perpetrated by one of its own for political advantage?

The left has no conscience. They only have a goal. To them, their end justifies all means. They have no need for facts or logic or fairness. They have their illusions. They have their “conscious dreams” and that is all they need to justify anything and everything.

Every article, every blog, every opinion piece that attempts to link the actions of the Marxist Jared Laughner with any libertarian or conservative public figure underscores this point over and over again.

Posted by: LePauvrePapillon | January 9, 2011 2:36 PM | Report abuse

Inconvenient reality check for those attempting to link the Marxist Jared Laughner with anyone or anything libertarian or conservative:

If Mein Kampf and The Communist Manifesto are among your favorite books, you are a Marxist. You are certainly not a freedom-loving libertarian or conservative.

Hitler was a Marxist. NAZI is an acronym that stands for National Socialist German Workers Party. Lenin was a Marxist as was Stalin as was Mao as was Obama, Sr. Fidel Castro, Hugo Chavez and Clueless Comrade Barry - sharing the dream of his father - are all Marxists.

You can split hairs over the supposed dissimilarities between Marxism, socialism, fascism and communism but they are all distinctions without a difference.

In the end, they are all variations of the Marxist concept of collective ownership and all circumvent and ultimately destroy the natural rights of individuals to own property and make their own financial and even personal decisions.

And they never stop there.

Whether it’s a case of power corrupting or simply those in power doing what is required to maintain their oligarchies, Marxists always find it necessary to grant ever greater powers to the State. It is no mere coincidence that the greatest mass murderers in history, Hitler (20 million), Lenin and Stalin (62 million), and Mao (76 million), have all been Marxists.

So is it really all that surprising that the left would immediately and without the slightest hesitation attempt to exploit the violence perpetrated by one of its own for political advantage?

The left has no conscience. They only have a goal. To them, their end justifies all means. They have no need for facts or logic or fairness. They have their illusions. They have their “conscious dreams” and that is all they need to justify anything and everything.

Every article, every blog, every opinion piece that attempts to link the actions of the Marxist Jared Laughner with any libertarian or conservative public figure underscores this point over and over again.

Posted by: LePauvrePapillon | January 9, 2011 2:35 PM | Report abuse

THE HATE MONGERS ARE ON THE LEFT! THEY CONSTANTLY STAND AGAINST FREE SPEECH UNLESS IT SUITS THEIR CAUSE, THE REST OF FREE SPEECH BE DAMNED! ENOUGH!

AN AMERICAN MALE SHOT A CONGRESSPERSON. THAT'S IT!!! THE REST OF THIS LEFT WING RHETORIC IS B S! EVERY TIME AN ISOLATED INCIDENCE LIKE THIS HAPPENS, THE LEFT WINGNUTS ARE OUT THERE READY TO BLAME THE RIGHT. IT'S YOU GUYS THAT CONSTANTLY PREACH HATE AND INTOLERANCE. LET'S STOP IT, BECAUSE YOU'VE BEEN EXPOSED.

MAY GOD BLESS AND EXPEDITE THE HEALING OF THE CONGRESSWOMAN. CONDOLENCES GO OUT TO THE FAMILIES OF THOSE WHO LOST THEIR LOVED ONES. AMEN.

Posted by: barrysal | January 9, 2011 2:29 PM | Report abuse

As in previous posts, Boehner has been MIA in condemning the hate speech that marks the "Conservative" political discourse. While he is not guilty of hate speech, his "late to the table" condemnation of politically inspired violence gives whacos the blessing they need to murder 9 year olds. How can this man sleep at night?

Posted by: ChrisW1958 | January 9, 2011 2:27 PM | Report abuse

House Speaker John A. Boehner and Senator Mitch McConnell should take immediate steps to remove the "killer" rhetoric in respect for Congresswoman Gibby. Republicans should be able to make their case for or against something without that type of language.

Posted by: ListenToOthers | January 9, 2011 2:13 PM | Report abuse

I find it most enlightening that after something like this happens then and only then comes the "decrying" of the hateful comments. One can be part of the answer or part of the problem. Boehner chose his position during his interview with Brian William. I see him as part of the problem.

Posted by: cp701 | January 9, 2011 1:58 PM | Report abuse

magnifico is a IDIOT

Posted by: seawolfR | January 9, 2011 1:56 PM | Report abuse

Anyone notice the utterly cold, unfeeling speech by Boner? He cries when he's supporting a position, but is unfeeling cold Rethuglican dimwit when someone who opposes his ilk suffers an unspeakable tragedy.

Boner is the devil himself.

Posted by: dc1020008 | January 9, 2011 1:46 PM | Report abuse

AntiSemitism is a hallmark of the left these days.....

Posted by: georgedixon1 | January 9, 2011 1:35 PM | Report abuse

Stick to Facts:
The shooter is described as "left wing" and "liberal" by those who know him.

The shooter “favorited” just one video on YouTube, an American Flag burning video

____________________________________________

Facts??

This is typical, planted, made-up garbage that the right wing very shrewdly puts out after all instances of obvious right-wing violence.

Who gave you these facts?? Can you cite trustworthy, non-right wing news sources?

This is utter garbage.

This loony tune shooter was part of a RIGHT WING white supremacist organization.

GET YOUR FACTS STRAIGHT!!!!

Posted by: dc1020008 | January 9, 2011 1:33 PM | Report abuse

Stick to Facts:
The shooter is described as "left wing" and "liberal" by those who know him.

The shooter “favorited” just one video on YouTube, an American Flag burning video

Then there is this:

Hate Post on the DEMOCRAT website the DAILYKOS on Thursday.....

"My CongressWOMAN voted against Nancy Pelosi! And is now DEAD to me!

Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords is dead to me now…..And why did she do this? Giffords never told me she was conservative Democrat."

The above is neither isolated nor unique.
Leftwing sites have been very harsh about Bluedog Conservative Democrats like THIS Congresswoman

The you have the quotes of President Obama:

"I want you to argue with them and get in their face!" Barack Obama, September 2008

“We’re gonna punish our enemies and we’re gonna reward our friends who stand with us on issues that are important to us.” Obama to Latinos, October 2010

“I don’t want to quell anger. I think people are right to be angry! I’m angry!” Obama on ACORN Mobs, March 2010

The Leader of the Left says: “If they bring a knife to the fight, we bring a gun.” Barack Obama

As you read this the Democrat website the DAILYKOS is scrubbing....here is a captured screen shot:

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_gcA0ZuKGkI8/TSkFVGTgLoI/AAAAAAAAJkI/iFJORGeSB5M/s1600/kospost.jpg

Posted by: georgedixon1 | January 9, 2011 1:27 PM | Report abuse

Well, he should be decrying these attacks since it's his party and its demagogues that are the one responsible.

Posted by: vztownes | January 9, 2011 1:14 PM | Report abuse

The government under Dumya hired nearly ONE MILLION spies who cost us tens of billions to prevent terroristic acts. We're spending bililons on government evedropping programs and on Sen. Hatch's Utah storage facilities for all the collected data. What happened? How come they failed to find the terrorist in Tuscon?

Posted by: mongolovesheriff | January 9, 2011 1:13 PM | Report abuse

The government under Dumya hired nearly ONE MILLION spies who cost us tens of billions to prevent terroristic acts. We're spending bililons on government evedropping programs and on Sen. Hatch's Utah storage facilities for all the collected data. What happened? How come they failed to find the terrorist in Tuscon?

Posted by: mongolovesheriff | January 9, 2011 1:13 PM | Report abuse

The government under Dumya hired nearly ONE MILLION spies who cost us tens of billions to prevent terroristic acts. We're spending bililons on government evedropping programs and on Sen. Hatch's Utah storage facilities for all the collected data. What happened? How come they failed to find the terrorist in Tuscon?

Posted by: mongolovesheriff | January 9, 2011 1:13 PM | Report abuse

The government under Dumya hired nearly ONE MILLION spies who cost us tens of billions to prevent terroristic acts. We're spending bililons on government evedropping programs and on Sen. Hatch's Utah storage facilities for all the collected data. What happened? How come they failed to find the terrorist in Tuscon?

Posted by: mongolovesheriff | January 9, 2011 1:13 PM | Report abuse

The government under Dumya hired nearly ONE MILLION spies who cost us tens of billions to prevent terroristic acts. We're spending bililons on government evedropping programs and on Sen. Hatch's Utah storage facilities for all the collected data. What happened? How come they failed to find the terrorist in Tuscon?

Posted by: mongolovesheriff | January 9, 2011 1:12 PM | Report abuse

The government under Dumya hired nearly ONE MILLION spies who cost us tens of billions to prevent terroristic acts. We're spending bililons on government evedropping programs and on Sen. Hatch's Utah storage facilities for all the collected data. What happened? How come they failed to find the terrorist in Tuscon?

Posted by: mongolovesheriff | January 9, 2011 1:11 PM | Report abuse

Speaker Bonehead is a disingenuous ass.

Posted by: aragon86 | January 9, 2011 12:49 PM | Report abuse

HERE is your GOP, America. This is the event planned by Gifford's REPUBLICAN opponent called for in the election. It called for shooting her:

http://firedoglake.com/2011/01/08/giffords-opponent-jesse-kelly-held-june-event-to-shoot-a-fully-automatic-m16-to-get-on-target-and-remove-gabrielle-giffords/

The enemy of America has been exposed and it's name is Tea Party.

Posted by: notbuyinganyofit | January 9, 2011 12:34 PM | Report abuse

Isn't it amazing how short a time it took for the GOP to ruin America.

I think that AZ Sheriff was wrong. It is America that is the Mecca of bigotry and hate.

Posted by: notbuyinganyofit | January 9, 2011 12:31 PM | Report abuse

Where is the headline Eggen,

"Pelosi decries attack in BRIEF remarks",
as she did?

For those who need it spelled out for you, the headline which is as far as some readers get, is written to suggest that the current Speaker's regard for the tragedy is "brief".

That's the typical Washington Post bias, which they repeat here as they have often in their relentless campaign against Republicans and conservatives.

Posted by: bbwk80a | January 9, 2011 12:26 PM | Report abuse

Teabaggers/GOP/Conservatives, ever since Obama was elected, have called for "Second Amendment remedies." that is calling for execution. they have used the rhetoric of murder only staying JUST on the technical side of "legal".

Teabaggery calls for secession and killing if they don't get their way. Teabaggery has blod on it's hands today and is complicit in murder.

America knows. America will not forget. America will respond appropriately to the cancer of Conservatism that has JUST about destroyed America.

Posted by: notbuyinganyofit | January 9, 2011 12:25 PM | Report abuse

Are there any TeaBuggers who are mentally stable? Why do they hate our freedoms?

Posted by: george_ww | January 9, 2011 12:09 PM | Report abuse

I hope Boehner and other politicians who use language that depicts violence against those who oppose their views realize that frustrations by their constituents and misguided people who may or may not suffer mental issues can "trigger" these actions. The use of targets (Palin) and expressions calling a representative a "dead man" (Boehner) when a representative supports an opposing view point, can be more than rhetoric. We don't know the motive of the young man who went on this rampage, but the atmosphere within which it was done leaves us to believe it is not healthy for our nation for it to continue. We expect more than these types of mindless comments from our so-called leaders.

Posted by: Nativewoman | January 9, 2011 11:54 AM | Report abuse

WHAT A HYPOCRITE YOU ARE...

For 2 years the Republican party, Fox news, Beck, Palin and other right wing extremist having been filling the airwaves with hate, fear and racism and YOU have said nothing...

YOU ARE AS GUILTY AS THE NUT WHO SHOT THOSE 19 SOULS...

Posted by: WVUWEIRTON | January 9, 2011 11:52 AM | Report abuse

Boehner took awhile to come out with his brief prepared remarks condeming this tragedy. He's still playing to the Tea Party/Republican base. At least some of whom see no tragedy in what happened at all.

Posted by: magnifco1000 | January 9, 2011 11:52 AM | Report abuse

Boehner took awhile to come out with his brief prepared remarks condeming this tragedy. He's still playing to the Tea Party/Republican base. At least some of whom see no tragedy in what happened at all.

Posted by: magnifco1000 | January 9, 2011 11:51 AM | Report abuse


WHAT A HYPOCRITE YOU ARE...

For 2 years the Republican party, Fox news, Beck, Palin and other right wing extremist having been filling the airwaves with hate, feat and racism and YOU have said nothing...

YOU ARE AS GUILTY AS THE NUT WHO SHOT THOSE 19 SOULS...

Posted by: WVUWEIRTON | January 9, 2011 11:50 AM | Report abuse


WHAT A HYPOCRITE YOU ARE...

For 2 years the Republican party, Fox news, Beck, Palin and other right wing extremist having been filling the airwaves with hate, feat and racism and YOU have said nothing...

YOU ARE AS GUILTY AS THE NUT WHO SHOT THOSE 19 SOULS...

Posted by: WVUWEIRTON | January 9, 2011 11:49 AM | Report abuse

Boehner said a Congressman is a "Dead man" for voting for health care reform?

That is inciting violence. It is a crime. It does not matter if you say "I didn't really mean it" after you say it.

Media, do your job, and report on all the violent imagery Republicans and other tea partiers use are using.

"2nd Amendment remedies"? That is a clear call for someone to shoot people they disagree with.

Violent irresponsible rhetoric will not take a non violent person who hates liberals and make them violent. It will make a crazy person violent though.

If your beliefs are right, then make your case with logic. If you can't do that, then it's time to rethink your flawed beliefs.

Posted by: unitcaptain11 | January 9, 2011 11:47 AM | Report abuse

Boner is despicable.

Posted by: GeorgHerbet | January 9, 2011 11:47 AM | Report abuse

Boner is despicable.

Posted by: GeorgHerbet | January 9, 2011 11:46 AM | Report abuse

As I said here in March of last year Mr. Boehner:

"The climate of hatred and blind, obstructionist partisan politics that the Republicans are encouraging will only come back to haunt them when this same disrespect and stonewalling will be shown them when they assume power in the future.

The Founding Fathers are mortified."

When you allow one party to be targeted for disrespect and violent rhetoric you pave the way for the entire political process and the electorate to be devalued and threatened.

Government is government in the unstable mind: Democrat and Republican. This young man's delusions had no political boundaries.

Posted by: hakafos44 | January 9, 2011 11:33 AM | Report abuse

Boehner is such a phony. More locally we have Eric Cantor to thank for all the calls to violence. Fear mongering followed by "how awful" "flying the flag at half mast" and other such trivial acts of symbolism. The murders are the result of the Republicans playing to their base. Period.

Posted by: Annandale | January 9, 2011 11:31 AM | Report abuse

You shall reap what you have sown

The blood of all these poor victims is on the hands of the GOP...

Shame on you

Posted by: CalifObserver | January 9, 2011 11:29 AM | Report abuse

It started when Angle talked about using "2nd Amendment remedies" against Members of Congress. Tea Party Republicans have been openly defiant and proposed violent overthrow of our elected democratic government. Obama could use his authority to declare them all terrorists and ship them to Guantanamo. Something they need to bear in mind.

Posted by: magnifco1000 | January 9, 2011 11:27 AM | Report abuse

This morning I did what I rarely do: watch Fox News to see how they were "reporting", i.e. spinning the Arizona shootings. The network which carries the daily diatribe from Hannity, Beck and O'Reilly never once mentioned any possible link between the hate language used by its hosts (nor those from the tea parties or other right wing "patriots" like Limbaugh)to the actual violence.I guess it would have been too much to expect the "fair and balanced" network to report the comments from the Tucson Sheriff.

Another day in the dream world of the far right where fiction is reality and words and threats have no link to violence.

Posted by: paul2150 | January 9, 2011 11:26 AM | Report abuse

Although Justice may be blind apparently it can still feel the weight of money and political influence. It is this same money and influence which allows Sarah Palin to avoid prosecution with the aid of the Republican party (recall the number of Tea Party candidates picked up by the Republican Party in the last congressional election) for her posting of cross-hairs on political districts, Congressional Representatives, and Senators. By using this symbol (cross-hairs), Sarah Palin was in effect encouraging violence and attempting to stifle free speech and political debate through encouraging her followers to use force against those opposing her and the Tea Party/Republican agenda.

This is not the first time that violence has erupted due to her and her party’s inflammatory rhetoric. Recall that Mike Troxell, a Tea Party organizer in Lynchburg Virginia, attempted to post the address of Tom Periello, a U.S. Representative from Virginia's 5th Congressional District. However, Mr Troxell had obtained the wrong address and inadvertantly posted the address of Periello’s brother, which resulted in this father of four children (Periello’s brother) having the gas line to his propane tank cut. This was not a singular instance either as there were several other reports of violence, vandalism, and death threats as well. Now it would appear that her actions have resulted in the loss of 5 lives, three of which appear to be non-political, and the critical wounding of Congresswoman Gifford from Arizona.

In the end the tragedy with this situation is that Sarah Palin and others were not prosecuted for their crimes against a fundamental tenet of democratic society (free speech) last spring. By allowing people like Palin and Mike Troxell to avoid prosecution, the government effectively condoned the use of threats and violence against those that carry opposing viewpoints with regard to politics. In addition to this, society is guilty of condoning her actions as well by conferring upon Ms Palin a celebrity status and awarding her with a television program on TLC “Sarah Palin’s Alaska”. This is the real tragedy of the situation.

Posted by: jamesmcelroy77 | January 9, 2011 11:24 AM | Report abuse

No need to comment on the irony here.

Tone it down America before someone you love gets gunned down in the crossfire.

Posted by: allknowing10 | January 9, 2011 11:23 AM | Report abuse

No need to comment on the irony here.

Tone it down America before someone you love gets gunned down in the crossfire.

Posted by: allknowing10 | January 9, 2011 11:23 AM | Report abuse

No need to comment on the irony here.

Tone it down America before someone you love gets gunned down in the crossfire.

Posted by: allknowing10 | January 9, 2011 11:22 AM | Report abuse

Republicans, Fox News, Sarah Palin, et. al. own this.

Posted by: DGSPAMMAIL | January 9, 2011 11:04 AM | Report abuse

You seriously angry about Democrats enacting Health Insurance Reform? Then take your gun and go out and kill Democrats. But, before you do, consider on whose side you are on. You want no changes whatever to the way Health Insurance is peddled in the U S of A. Kill sick people. Deny sick people. Apply profits to advertising and to help wealthy executives defray their living expenses. Apply less than 80% of premium revenues to medical losses. The rest is pure gravy. Maybe you hate our government. That is your right. But the problem isn't going to solved through violent means. We few remaining sane Americans won't permit it. Those who advocate the violent overthrow of the U.S. Government should be jammed in a dungeon and forgotten.

Posted by: BlueTwo1 | January 9, 2011 10:55 AM | Report abuse

Good comments- but not nearly enough in this emergency -GOP and TP leaders need to use very specific language to ALL their people to dial back the rhetoric, cool down and stop using gun and violence metaphors- like "killing healthcare"
words matter...

Posted by: staussfamily | January 9, 2011 10:53 AM | Report abuse

It is a sad sad tragedy that Giffords and others were harmed and killed.......

The facts are polticians are not listening to WE THE PEOPLE and they in collusion with the banksters, wall streeters, military industrialists and oil barons have stolen from ALL Americans and continue to do so......as well the errant policies established and failure to address basic issues grates on nearly ALL Americans.....

As well all government at all levels needs to be reformed and reduced and ineffective policies/agencies need to be gutted- such as IRS (flat tax), DEA (legalize), DOE( has done nothing to get us off foreign oil and in fact has only made it near impossible to build a nuclear plant and established 10 national labs that do research for DOD), DOE (leave education to the states), DOA (no subsidies for any farming- how about a barrel of oil for a bushel of grain?), homeland security (a ridiculous agency making the USA a police state and FOR WHAT?), DOD and the three letter intel agencies- invading sovereign countries to find supposed terrorists that live 5,000 miles away in caves and huts and have no standing army, navy or air force- RIDICULOUS), etc. etc.

The fuse has been lit by the above crooks and ineffective government policies and out of hand spending. The powder keg is close to exploding and the answer is not the police state that is developing but an honest and true government FOR AND BY WE THE PEOPLE without wars and stealing and collusion.

Get to work Washington- you all created these unethical invasions and financial debacles and the stealing of Americans hard earned money and dreams.....if you don't get to fixing it and quit wasting time on irrelevent issues the situation is going to get much worse.

Posted by: ticked | January 9, 2011 10:44 AM | Report abuse

He didn't cry?

Why didn't Boehner cry?

Posted by: 20yrskinfan | January 9, 2011 10:41 AM | Report abuse

Boehner is a phony without the courage of his convictions concerning his people's viewpoints pushing buttons on this and the many birthers having free speech. He would not support those that advocate communism nor fascism, but then again Tea Party retards have a following.

Posted by: jameschirico | January 9, 2011 10:38 AM | Report abuse

apologies to all for the duplicate post...operator error.

Posted by: cf6driver | January 9, 2011 10:23 AM | Report abuse

John Boehner
Mitch McConnell
Jim DeMint
Michelle Bachman
Alan West's former intended Chief of Staff
Sharon Angle
Glenn Beck
Bill O'Reilly...hell, 95% of the Fox gang

and so many others...who have called for "bullets"...ESPECIALLY Sarah Palin and her "bullseyes" on her PAC page...

this blood is on your hands and the stains are on your souls.

Posted by: cf6driver | January 9, 2011 10:21 AM | Report abuse

John Boehner
Mitch McConnell
Jim DeMint
Michelle Bachman
Alan West's former intended Chief of Staff
Sharon Angle
Glenn Beck
Bill O'Reilly...hell, 95% of the Fox gang

and so many others...who have called for "bullets"...ESPECIALLY Sarah Palin and her "bullseyes" on her PAC page...

this blood is on your hands and the stains are on your souls.

Posted by: cf6driver | January 9, 2011 10:19 AM | Report abuse

John Boehner
Mitch McConnell
Jim DeMint
Michelle Bachman
Alan West's former intended Chief of Staff
Sharon Angle
Glenn Beck
Bill O'Reilly...hell, 95% of the Fox gang

and so many others...who have called for "bullets"...ESPECIALLY Sarah Palin and her "bullseyes" on her PAC page...

this blood is on your hands and the stains are on your souls.

Posted by: cf6driver | January 9, 2011 10:18 AM | Report abuse

Boehner is a Pathetic "DRUNK", he was to intoxicated yesterday to even do an interview. He had to wait for his MASTERS at the NRA to make a statement about the shooting.

The foundation of the Republican Party is built on "FEAR, ANGER and STUPIDITY".

The party would last a week without any of the three.

As bad as this Killing was, the NRA will make this story go away in about a week.
And the Crazies in this Country will back to buying guns as usual.

Posted by: austininc444 | January 9, 2011 10:16 AM | Report abuse

Our politicians and their supporting media (thanks to the digital age, tv and radio stations are able to survive on smaller and smaller more homogeneous followers. With this small homogeneous market they are able to spin their words to their viewers and inflammatory phrases become the norm. "Firing Line", "In the Cross Hairs", "Bush knew about and helped perpetuate 9/11" are common. The problem is that the middle (right, left, and center) do not respond to these comments other than an eye roll or shake of the head. But the more "fringe elements" suck this up.

Durring the "reading" of the Constitution, of course there was the prerequisite shout out about Obama's birth. That night, Brian Williams asks John "Crocodile Tears" Bohener" if he accepts Obama as born in the US. His reply, snarky as can be, is if Hawaii says so , it is okay with him. Not, he is a rightful US citizen and our President. He then defends the House that there are 435 people with 435 beliefs. Belief is that belief with no necessary facts. The fact is Obama is a US Citizen and Boehner has played the fringe card while trying to be centrist.

Hopefully the good that comes out of Arizona shooting is that people realize that what we say can hurt and cause people to do physical harm. The best moment was McCain's town hall meeting in, I believe, Minnesota, during the end of of the 2008 election, when the Republican Party had deserted him, and a disheveled older woman grabs the microphone and proclaims (slight paraphrasing) " Obama is a Ni.. Ni...Ni.. Not one of us". The look on McCain's face was priceless as he looked into the abyss of hate and ignorance and stepped back and said "No ma'am, he is a good man, a family man who I have disagreements with".

Hopefully Boehner and the rest begin to realize we cannot use inciting language without pushing the more fringe elements into action. (This is not a right or left problem, this is a problem created and allowed to be fostered by all of us and we need to bring our disagreementsin a more respectful tone).

Posted by: optodoc | January 9, 2011 10:12 AM | Report abuse

To Boehner and all his GOP colleagues....don't you think it's a little late to decry the violence and call for civility. The vitriolic rhetoric and violent imagery has been ratcheting up ever since Obama was elected. I don't recall over that time period EVER hearing a Republican call for civility among his/her constituents, even back when Nancy Pelosi begged them to join her in doing just that. What did you think was ultimately going to happen? Words and images do matter. And to blow this off as the actions of one deranged person just doesn't cut it. This wasn't the first act of violence against a Democrat. It was just the worst. Obviously the guy was deranged, but there are lots of people out on the fringes who take seriously what they see and hear from folks in the media and the political leadership. When will we learn? And what does it say that so many Americans are tolerating such bad behavior from the leadership and folk in the media? We've had other dark moments like this in our history, and they too were spawned by over the top hate speech.

Posted by: ggwalt | January 9, 2011 9:55 AM | Report abuse

the families of the dead and wounded should sue Palins PAC for inciting the murders.

Posted by: newagent99 | January 9, 2011 9:54 AM | Report abuse

I don't need TEA and GOP people's condolences, I don't need their fake tears.

All I want, I just sincerely hope, that they do their soul-searching and give up these sort of dangerous tactics that bears no truth, while stirs up unstable people.

Posted by: crislevin2010 | January 9, 2011 9:42 AM | Report abuse

Boehner is doing what the republicans are so good at doing. It's deplorable but we all take these risks and the rest of us will stand bravely and continue to take the risk. What BS! It's their rhetoric that keeps everything inflamed. They never appeal to reason, just to emotions. They keep the people scared and scared people are easily led and do stupid things.

Posted by: guyachs | January 9, 2011 9:37 AM | Report abuse

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