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Posted at 2:12 PM ET, 01/ 5/2011

In speaker vote, 19 House Democrats withhold support from Pelosi

By Felicia Sonmez

Updated: 3:50 p.m.

Nineteen House Democrats voted for someone other than Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) for speaker on the first day of the 112th Congress, an indication of the still-simmering discontent within the caucus following November's midterm shellacking.

Eleven Democrats voted for Rep. Heath Shuler (D-N.C.), who waged an unsuccessful battle against Pelosi for Democratic leader in mid-November but picked up 43 votes at the time.

Those voting for Shuler for speaker on Wednesday included Democratic Reps. Jason Altmire (Pa.), Dan Boren (Okla.), Jim Cooper (Tenn.), Joe Donnelly (Ind.), Tim Holden (Pa.), Larry Kissell (N.C.), Mike McIntyre (N.C.), Jim Matheson (Utah), Mike Michaud (Maine), Mike Ross (Ark.) and Shuler himself.

The other eight Democrats not voting for Pelosi spread their votes among a handful of other members. Reps. John Barrow (Ga.) and Gabrielle Giffords (Ariz.) voted for Rep. John Lewis (Ga.); California Reps. Jim Costa and Dennis Cardoza voted for each other; Rep. Ron Kind (Wis.) voted for Rep. Jim Cooper (Tenn.); Rep. Dan Lipinski (Ill.) voted for Rep. Marcy Kaptur (Ohio); Rep. Kurt Schrader (Ore.) voted for Rep. Steny Hoyer (Md.); and Rep. Sanford Bishop (Ga.) voted present.

One Democrat, Rep. Peter DeFazio (Ore.), was not present for the vote. DeFazio was among those leading the open rebellion against Pelosi during the lame duck session.

Many of the Democrats voting against Pelosi were members of the conservative Blue Dog Coalition, whose ranks were cut by more than half in the November midterms. Many of those remaining are expected to face tough re-election bids in 2012.

The number of defections is the highest since 1997, when nine Republicans voted for someone other than then-Speaker Newt Gingrich (R-Ga.). In recent years, typically only a few members have cast their votes for someone other than their party's leader. In 2003, 2005 and 2007, Rep. Gene Taylor (D-Miss.) has cast his vote for the late Rep. John Murtha (D-Pa.) instead of Pelosi.

As ten percent of her caucus was voting against her, Pelosi sent out a fundraising e-mail urging supporters to help House Democrats raise $100,000 to "hold Republicans accountable before their shameful vote" next week to repeal the national health-care overhaul.

"This is our first test of how grassroots Democrats will respond to the Republicans' disgraceful attempt to roll back our progress for America's middle class families," Pelosi wrote. "We must hold House Republicans' feet to the fire for taking government funded health care for themselves while voting to deny it to American families."

The final tally was 241 votes for John Boehner (R-Ohio), who became the new speaker, 173 for Pelosi and the 19 Democratic votes not cast for Pelosi.

When members voted for Pelosi, who was seated with two of her grandchildren sitting in her lap, she frequently turned toward the member, waved and smiled.

Rep. Steve Cohen (D-Tenn.), who was one of Pelosi's early backers after Democrats' midterm loss, loudly said "Pelosi, proudly" when he cast his vote. When the House clerk said she had not quite heard him, Cohen responded: "Pelosi, P-E-L-O-S-I."

Staff writer Paul Kane contributed to this report.

By Felicia Sonmez  | January 5, 2011; 2:12 PM ET
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CC, you didn't mention it took four years by right wing media to demonize Pelosi.
Boehner and McConnell will not receive the same treatment from the MSM or congressional democrats.

Boehner and McConnell will spend the next twelve months backtracking on their campaign statements. They will claim ... well they weren't rally promises ... but but goals and aspirations for the American people.
Then they will spend six months trying to convince their rubes why they should be re-elected.
Same-O-same-O, republican business as usual.

BTY, are republicans keeping Rand Paul and Ricky Rubio on a short leash?

I wonder how the TP will react as they watch their so-called party members knell and kiss Boehner and McConnell's papal rings.
Or in Boehner's case his chosen over sized gavel.


Solve our problems with a transaction tax.
http://www.apttax.com/

Posted by: knjincvc | January 6, 2011 1:55 PM | Report abuse

Clearly, while Pelosi was elected speaker with the Democrats in control, she was not a leader of the party in the House. She could, or would not, control far too many renegade Democrats. There was no discipline within the ranks of the Democratic Party, she could not reign them in. Yes, even Tip O'Neil had some Dems vote against him, but the next question is "What happened to them?", I guess it wasn't pretty unless they were safely enthroned in their districts and Bozo the Clown was running against them.

Say what you will about the Republicans, they stay on message, they are in harmony. What you have from the Democrats is a cacophony of noise, all running in different directions. Obama, can't control his party, Reid cannot control his Senators, and of course Pelosi had terrible strategy and was not a real leader. Right, now the Democrats are in disarray and there are few hopes that it will get better.

Posted by: RedRat | January 6, 2011 1:26 PM | Report abuse

There are still 20 Red Dog Republicrats in the House; I'm not surprised 19 would vote against Pelosi; my only surprise that all 20 didn't.

Posted by: ddoiron1 | January 6, 2011 9:54 AM | Report abuse


"In speaker vote, 19 House Democrats withhold support from Pelosi"

So?

I'm glad they did withheld support as it renews my faith that some democrats are still individuals exercising free will and their right to dissent.

Look at the jack-booted Fascist alternative. If there is even a dissenting comment, the dissenter is made to heel and kneel before the right hand of GOP and cry forgiveness wearing sack cloth and flagellating himself with ashes.

Posted by: chamateddy | January 5, 2011 10:23 PM | Report abuse

Pepper Jade, thanks for the Dave Barry, I missed that the first time and it was classic.

Posted by: Gooddogs | January 5, 2011 10:19 PM | Report abuse

Shuler is the only Dem/lib with a spine; the witch destroyed your party and you numbnuts reelected the fool. that is cryptic. the libs are drinking more than blue KOOL-AID folks.

Posted by: Nobama11 | January 5, 2011 10:12 PM | Report abuse

What I think this shows more than anything else is that the Democrats do not stick together. While I disagreed with what the GOP did during the last session and while what they did was to the detriment of the country, I have to admire how they stuck together. If only the Democrats would have done this, we could have passed many more helpful laws.

When will these Blue Dogs ever learn? They vote like Republicans hoping that the GOP will appreciate it and vote for them and then just like Lucy with the football, they pull it away and vote for the real Republican. If you look at the House, it was not those who voted for a liberal agenda who lost most of their seats. There were proportionally more of these Blue Dogs. If they want to vote like Republicans, then I fail to see why they run as Democrats. Better they switch parties and leave the Democratic party for those who will vote for the good of the common people in the U.S.

I suspect that after 2 years of a house who thinks they are serving the country when in reality they are serving the country club, people will come to their senses and vote for the Dems. After all, when you hear these people like Rep and Sen. Paul talking about how everyone must share in sacrifice and then say that increasing taxes on the wealthy is off the table, then what they are really saying is we want sacrifices from the poorest among us and some from the middle class, but not one bit from the wealthy, then you know you have been had. I think the electorate will come to its senses in 2 years.

Posted by: TomfromNJ1 | January 5, 2011 9:59 PM | Report abuse

What I think this shows more than anything else is that the Democrats do not stick together. While I disagreed with what the GOP did during the last session and while what they did was to the detriment of the country, I have to admire how they stuck together. If only the Democrats would have done this, we could have passed many more helpful laws.

When will these Blue Dogs ever learn? They vote like Republicans hoping that the GOP will appreciate it and vote for them and then just like Lucy with the football, they pull it away and vote for the real Republican. If you look at the House, it was not those who voted for a liberal agenda who lost most of their seats. There were proportionally more of these Blue Dogs. If they want to vote like Republicans, then I fail to see why they run as Democrats. Better they switch parties and leave the Democratic party for those who will vote for the good of the common people in the U.S.

I suspect that after 2 years of a house who thinks they are serving the country when in reality they are serving the country club, people will come to their senses and vote for the Dems. After all, when you hear these people like Rep and Sen. Paul talking about how everyone must share in sacrifice and then say that increasing taxes on the wealthy is off the table, then what they are really saying is we want sacrifices from the poorest among us and some from the middle class, but not one bit from the wealthy, then you know you have been had. I think the electorate will come to its senses in 2 years.

Posted by: TomfromNJ1 | January 5, 2011 9:59 PM | Report abuse

Earl; what is the democrat party,[the party of people they have enslaved with welfare]? Earl; how many poor ghetto drug dealers have given you a job lately? I do not mean the crack you sell either.

Posted by: Nobama11 | January 5, 2011 9:56 PM | Report abuse

Pelosi managed to drive the approval rating of HER CONGRESS down to [13%]; and the minions reelect the dufus;; Madam [Starkist] is a typical west coast fruit cake not fit for office in regard to the real
Americans. Who would reelect BOXER and jerry brown?

Posted by: Nobama11 | January 5, 2011 9:47 PM | Report abuse

realistic4, your numbers do not add up.

It is Obama and dems who wanted the death panels. He reversed them today. You lie about republicans wishing everyone dead.

Are you such a moron that you think everyone is stupid?

Posted by: annnort | January 5, 2011 9:46 PM | Report abuse

Even democracy is practiced in the House elections. Amazing isn't it that some people would actually vote for someone else. A 10 percent "defection" is no big deal in the real world. Only in politics are things hyped and spun to the max. May the good Lord have pity on our souls!

The blue dog dems should have been voted out, everyone of them! The blue dog dem in my district was one such. The only good thing that he did was to oust a dictator Republican in 2008. 2012 will be a very interesting election year. With Obama still commanding a favorability of half of the electorate after all of the slams he has taken for two years shows that he has what it takes to lead.

Let the Republican House do what they will to reinforce the notion that Republicans are a party of the rich, for the rich, and by the rich. They like their free lunches as good as the next guy. The problem is that they can pay for their lunches. Guess who pays when they don't?

Posted by: EarlC | January 5, 2011 9:08 PM | Report abuse

I hope you're all geared up for Le Deluge...Good bye Civil Rights, Social Security, Gainful Employment, ANY Right to the pursuit of Life, Liberty, or Happiness! Welcome to the Brave New World of Republi-WON'T "My Way, or the Highway" form of Government. Corporations are "People". Human beings are drones who must obey what the Corporations and Republi-WON'Ts dictate. War and Self Aggrandizement are their Swords and Bucklers. Bend over and hope they make you smile while they are "servicing" you! You asked for it? You GOT it!

Posted by: billnbillieskid | January 5, 2011 8:02 PM
__________________________________________

You really don't believe what you wrote do you?

That's really amazing...there have been more controls on your daily life enacted with the 2008 house and senate than ever. And, dullard, using your rationalization regarding "corporations" servicing you...your benevolent government will jail you. Remember this...I'd rather be faux "serviced" by a corporation than literally being forced to toss bubba's salad!

P.S. Think for yourself...not what MSNBC tells you to believe!

Posted by: getagrip5 | January 5, 2011 8:29 PM | Report abuse

I hope you're all geared up for Le Deluge...Good bye Civil Rights, Social Security, Gainful Employment, ANY Right to the pursuit of Life, Liberty, or Happiness! Welcome to the Brave New World of Republi-WON'T "My Way, or the Highway" form of Government. Corporations are "People". Human beings are drones who must obey what the Corporations and Republi-WON'Ts dictate. War and Self Aggrandizement are their Swords and Bucklers. Bend over and hope they make you smile while they are "servicing" you! You asked for it? You GOT it!

Posted by: billnbillieskid | January 5, 2011 8:02 PM | Report abuse

I hope you're all geared up for Le Deluge...Good bye Civil Rights, Social Security, Gainful Employment, ANY Right to the pursuit of Life, Liberty, or Happiness! Welcome to the Brave New World of Republi-WON'T "My Way, or the Highway" form of Government. Corporations are People. People are drones who must obey what the Corporations and Republi-WON'Ts dictate. War and Self Aggrandizement are their Swords and Bucklers. Bend over and hope they make you smile while they are "servicing" you! You asked for it? You GOT it!

Posted by: billnbillieskid | January 5, 2011 7:59 PM | Report abuse

sandy, maybe you go back and check georgie boy's vacation calendars. Makes Obama look like he never leaves the WH. As for Pelosi, she's got balls, more than boehner. I don't recall ever seeing her crying, but boehner can't help himself. This is going to be one messed up Congress because the repubs are already turning away from their campaign promises and not one has said where they are going to do all the cutting. Time for the gop to man up and get ready to leave in two years.

Posted by: mikel7 | January 5, 2011 7:55 PM | Report abuse

sandy, maybe you go back and check georgie boy's vacation calendars. Makes Obama look like he never leaves the WH. As for Pelosi, she's got balls, more than boehner. I don't recall ever seeing her crying, but boehner can't help himself. This is going to be one messed up Congress because the repubs are already turning away from their campaign promises and not one has said where they are going to do all the cutting. Time for the gop to man up and get ready to leave in two years.

Posted by: mikel7 | January 5, 2011 7:55 PM | Report abuse

The animus in many of the comments posted here amazes me. Why all the hatred and venom? The people you love to attack and ridicule have served and/or continue to serve their country, despite the obvious difficulties.

Whatever your political affiliation or preference, most of those who opt for a politician's life are inspired by sincere desire to serve their country, their fellow citizens. Of course they are ambitious, just as anyone who sets out to reach the top of his game is ambitious. Of the two human appetites, the concupiscible and the irascible, it is the latter that drives us to do great things.

We can show our gratitude for their efforts in our behalf by showing respect, at least, to these public servants and refraining from vulgar, splenitic carping and personal attack. That includes Pelosi, Boehner, Obama, and Bush. Give the vitriol a rest. If you have a constructive comment, your meanspirited insults will drown it out. Don't let your message be(in Shakespeare's words, ". . . a tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing."

Posted by: castleb | January 5, 2011 7:00 PM | Report abuse

The animus in many of the comments posted here amazes me. Why all the hatred and venom? The people you love to attack and ridicule have served and/or continue to serve their country, despite the obvious difficulties. Whatever your political affiliation or preference, most of those who opt for a politician's life are inspired by sincere desire to serve their country, their fellow citizens. Of course they are ambitious, just as anyone who sets out to reach the top of his game is ambitious. Of the two human appetites, the concupiscible and the irascible, it is the latter that drives us to do great things.

We can show our gratitude by at least being respectful of these public servants and refraining from vulgar, splenitic carping and personal attack.

Posted by: castleb | January 5, 2011 6:53 PM | Report abuse

Observer691 wrote: That must be why her (Giffords) constituents reelected her in a very bad year and state for Democrats.
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Actually the state is now staunch Republican not Democrat. Republican from governor straight on down. Second Giffords almost lost this time. She narrowly won reelection and took three stress filled days to confirm it. Winning by less than 3000 votes. Voting the Pelosi/Obama/Reed almost cost her a job. Pepperjade is correct if a Tea Party candidate had not been her opponent Giffords would be watching this day on television from her home. 2012 she's gone. The addition of redistricting her territory to include more Republican voters is just icing on the cake.

Posted by: Desertdiva1 | January 5, 2011 6:48 PM | Report abuse

Good God this is great news as prehaps these 19 are the only Democrats left on the
entire planet Earth with good sense enough
to want Comrade Botox Democrat House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi gone from Congress as well. Hey GOP start the Expulsion from Congress against Nancy Pelosi for repeated violations of US Federal Immigration Laws and Obstruction of
Justice by hiring and continuing to employ
a good number of illegal aliens in all of
her and husband Paul Pelosi California family businesses! And Impeach Vacationer
in Chief Barack Hussein Obama as well.

Posted by: sandy5274 | January 5, 2011 6:12 PM | Report abuse

Who cares? I'd rather read about John Boehner. After all, it's HIS day, not the 70-year-old, has-been, nip-tucked, blinking pop-up doll's.

But then again, this IS the Washington Post, which our troops refer to as "Pravda on the Potomac."

Posted by: DeltaNick | January 5, 2011 6:04 PM | Report abuse

Who cares? I'd rather read about John Boehner. After all, it's HIS day, not the 70-year-old, has-been, nip-tucked, blinking pop-up doll's.

But then again, this IS the Washington Post, which our troops refer to as "Pravda on the Potomac."

Posted by: DeltaNick | January 5, 2011 6:03 PM | Report abuse

I think you did not write this correctly. Usually when you say the highest since..., it means that the since was higher.

It wasn't. This was the highest no vote in history!

But were you trying to put some good spin on it?

Posted by: jim0308 | January 5, 2011 5:55 PM | Report abuse

pepperjade wrote>>>Newt also resigned his congressional seat and retired from Congress

You conveniently omitted the part about Newt forced out due to corruption.

Posted by: angie12106 | January 5, 2011 5:39 PM | Report abuse

Tell me: why would anyone vote for Pelosi after she has led her party to a calamitous defeat?

Posted by: sameolddoc | January 5, 2011 5:30 PM | Report abuse

"Hey Giffords this won't help. You still have a bulls eye painted on your back for the 2012 election. This is one Democrat rep targeted for defeat. Pelosi screwed you the first time but your constituents still want you GONE!

Posted by: Desertdiva1 | January 5, 2011 2:44 PM | Report abuse"

That must be why her constituents reelected her in a very bad year and state for Democrats.

Posted by: Observer691 | January 5, 2011 4:43 PM

Actually, Giffords kept the seat for the same reason Harry Reid kept his seat: because a Tea Party whack job won the Republican primary and lost in the general election. Had Giffords faced off against the moderate Republican, Jonathan Paton, the Republicans would have gained 64 seats.

Posted by: pepperjade | January 5, 2011 4:55 PM | Report abuse

Robert Gibbs had the sense to resign and Pelosi should do the same. We're still waiting for the economy to rebound because of unemployment benefits and all those shovel ready jobs she, Reid, Obama, and Biden prmised. None of these loons would last in the corporate world.

Posted by: nmg3rln | January 5, 2011 4:54 PM | Report abuse

I still find it incredible that the person who lost the biggest majority in more than recent memory is re-elected to "lead" the party. Conversely, the person who won the greatest majority in more than recent memory is being ousted for doing doing enough. I'd say one party has high expectations, the other prefers to sit on its laurels, still in Egypt or at least on that river de Nile.

Posted by: Lynne51 | January 5, 2011 4:54 PM | Report abuse

All I know is that I don't want one cent of the money I give to campaigns to go to these Blue Dogs and I don't care if the door hits them on their way out. I'd rather a real Democrat run on a straight up fight over issues Democrats care about and lose than that someone think they are voting for a Democrat and get this.

Posted by: SarahBB | January 5, 2011 2:37 PM

This is the precise reason why Republicans crushed the Democrats in November. Shellacking? That was aa old-fashioned, well-deserved arse-whooping. At least Newt Gingrich had the decency to RESIGN--not just his position as Speaker (he didn't actually LOSE THE ENTIRE HOUSE--just several seats. Newt also resigned his congressional seat and retired from Congress. Nancy Pelosi, the text-book definition of HUBRIS, says she has no regrets. And cowardly Democrats re-elect her as minority leader. Prepare to lose more seats.

Liberals, prepare to be further sidelined. We moderates (Independents, Democrats and Republicans) who voted for Obama in the general election DID NOT vote for your liberal agenda. We returned the House to the Republicans in 2010, and next time, we'll return the White House to Republicans in 2012.

Find some middle ground or go sit in the corner and whine.

In the mean time, read Dave Barry's year in review:http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/story/2011/01/03/ST2011010300278.html?sid=ST2011010300278

He explains this in rather humorous terms...

JANUARY

... which begins grimly, with the pesky unemployment rate remaining high. Every poll shows that the major concerns of the American people are federal spending, the exploding deficit, and -- above all -- jobs. Jobs, jobs, jobs: This is what the public is worried about. In a word, the big issue is: jobs. So the Obama administration, displaying the keen awareness that has become its trademark, decides to focus like a laser on: health-care reform.

FEBRUARY
...In U.S. politics, President Obama, responding to the mounting public concern about jobs, invites Democratic and Republican congressional leaders to the White House for a historic day-long summit on: health-care reform.

MARCH

... Democratic congressional leaders, responding to polls showing that the health-care bill is increasingly unpopular with the public, manage, with a frantic, last-minute effort, to pass the health-care bill, or, at least, a giant mass of paper that is assumed to be the health-care bill.

NOVEMBER

... the elections turn out to be a bloodbath for the Democrats, who lose the House of Representatives, a bunch of Senate seats, some governorships, some state legislatures and all of the key student council races. Also, a number of long-term Democratic incumbents are urinated on by their own dogs. Obama immediately departs for a nine-day trip to Asia to see if anybody over there wants to hear about the benefits of health-care reform.

Posted by: pepperjade | January 5, 2011 4:49 PM | Report abuse

"Hey Giffords this won't help. You still have a bulls eye painted on your back for the 2012 election. This is one Democrat rep targeted for defeat. Pelosi screwed you the first time but your constituents still want you GONE!

Posted by: Desertdiva1 | January 5, 2011 2:44 PM | Report abuse"

That must be why her constituents reelected her in a very bad year and state for Democrats.

Posted by: Observer691 | January 5, 2011 4:43 PM | Report abuse

"As ten percent of her caucus was voting against her, Pelosi sent out a fundraising e-mail urging supporters to help House Democrats raise $100,000 to "hold Republicans accountable before their shameful vote" next week to repeal the national health-care overhaul."

Isn't it illegal (or at least against House rules) to campaign while working on official business?

Posted by: sabredc | January 5, 2011 4:43 PM | Report abuse

Do these 19 Democrat house members defecting from Pelosi go directly to President Obama as lap dogs? Certainly they can't be considered to change there stripes.

Posted by: rteske | January 5, 2011 4:37 PM | Report abuse

@Annort: wrote: In fact, 60% of Americans in a new poll do not like the healthscare scam. Now, if a few dems in the senate vote the way their constituents want them to vote, the repeal will pass and pass over Obama's veto.
________________________________________

New poll suggests that 98% of Americans like Healthcare and want Obamacare when they are sick. However, 60% of Americans don't want Obamacare when they are healthy but 98% of the 60% against Obamacare want to keep it around because they know they have 50-50% chance of getting sick. And 98% of Americans know that under republicans healthcare scam, that their chances of getting the treatment they need is 2% and while 98% believe that the republican healthcare plan comes with *die quickly claus*

Posted by: Realistic5 | January 5, 2011 4:31 PM | Report abuse

@Annort: wrote: In fact, 60% of Americans in a new poll do not like the healthscare scam. Now, if a few dems in the senate vote the way their constituents want them to vote, the repeal will pass and pass over Obama's veto.
________________________________________

New poll suggests that 98% of Americans like Healthcare and want Obamacare when they are sick. However, 60% of Americans don't want Obamacare when they are healthy but 98% of the 60% against Obamacare want to keep it around because they know they have 50-50% chance of getting sick. And 98% of Americans know that under republicans healthcare scam, that their chances of getting the treatment they need is 2% and while 98% believe that the republican healthcare plan comes with *die quickly claus*

Posted by: Realistic5 | January 5, 2011 4:30 PM | Report abuse

Those votes for Shuler were votes from the Blue Dogs. They voted NO on the health care bill. They will vote yes to repeal it because their constituents do not like the healthscare scam. In fact, 60% of Americans in a new poll do not like the healthscare scam. Now, if a few dems in the senate vote the way their constituents want them to vote, the repeal will pass and pass over Obama's veto. Then congress can work on some insurance changes that will benefit us, not cost us and the country our sanity.

It is a good day. We do not have to watch Pelosi on TV. I never want to see her again.

Posted by: annnort | January 5, 2011 4:20 PM | Report abuse

Well people get ready for whats coming. First, turn around and unbotton your drawers and pull em' down with your underwear and bend over. Ladies drop your panties and remove your pants or skirsts also and turn around and bend over. Now remember with the democrats vaseline was used so it was painful but not as much as this new exp is going to be. Republicans to save money will not use vaseline. Yes, its the same long and wide stick democrats used but unlike before, this is dry and rumored that some republicans splintered parts of it just for effect. Now remember no whinning about what your about to get, you asked for it by your vote in Nov. Now, don't expect a reach around like democrats did, republicans enjoy one hand free so they can reach down on the floor to get in your pockets. Remember smile, don't expect a reach around and this will be over eventually. And no, you cant bring your own lubrication to this party.

Posted by: Realistic5 | January 5, 2011 4:19 PM | Report abuse

Petty, ersatz Democrats like Jason Altmire of my state might vote against Pelosi, but she will go down in the history books as one of the most successful Speakers in history, right up there with Henry Clay and Sam Rayburn.

Posted by: DWSouthern | January 5, 2011 4:18 PM | Report abuse

Why in the world did Heath Schuler think he could get the Minority Leader's Job? Most of the Blue Dogs were wiped out in Novenver,

Posted by: Carprin | January 5, 2011 4:18 PM | Report abuse

Pelosi still doesn't understand why her party lost.....

Posted by: Rockvillers | January 5, 2011 4:17 PM | Report abuse

Pelosi still doesn't understand why her party lost.....

Posted by: Rockvillers | January 5, 2011 4:16 PM | Report abuse

As a life long black Democrat, I am tired of all the liberal BS coming from the Democratic Party like supporting the "Dream Act" and illegal immigration. The Congressional Black Caucus need to be disbanned because they should represent other races or ethinic groups living in their Districts. How would we feel if whites in Congress had a white Congressional Caucus? Nancy Pelosi is a liberal left wing idiot. She supports giving illegals citizenship and amnesty as most Democrats in Congress. I am a Blue Dog Democrat and proud of it.

Posted by: Ward4DC | January 5, 2011 4:12 PM | Report abuse

GOOD RIDENS TO BAD RUBISH !

Posted by: JWTX | January 5, 2011 4:12 PM | Report abuse

19 "defections is the highest since 1997, when nine Republicans voted for someone other than then-Speaker Newt Gingrich (R-Ga.). 9 is more than 19? Is 9 the highest number previously? So, does that make this the highest number of defections ever?

Posted by: rosepetals64 | January 5, 2011 4:11 PM | Report abuse

.

Hey Democrats,

Gibbs stepping down as White House press secretary and 19 House Democrats withhold support from Pelosi.

BYE BYE

DEMOCRATS

.

Posted by: kstobbe1 | January 5, 2011 4:08 PM | Report abuse

Dems is party of dumb and stupid, not to mention cowardliness.

Posted by: kevin1231 | January 5, 2011 4:01 PM | Report abuse

all you people are very nice and i agree with all of you i hope your opinions come trueeeeeeeeeeeeeeee.:)

Posted by: k-jackson | January 5, 2011 4:01 PM | Report abuse

all you people are very nice and i agree with all of you i hope your opinions come trueeeeeeeeeeeeeeee.:)

Posted by: k-jackson | January 5, 2011 4:01 PM | Report abuse

Is that all? 19?

I guess all the Blue Dogs Pelosi threw under the bus can't vote.


We are going to wrap Nancy Pelosi around you democrats necks. She will be the face of the Democratic Party.


Wave One: Nov. 2010
Wave Two: Nov. 2012

Posted by: FormerDemocrat | January 5, 2011 4:00 PM | Report abuse

all you people are very nice and i agree with all of you i hope your opinions come trueeeeeeeeeeeeeeee.:)

Posted by: k-jackson | January 5, 2011 4:00 PM | Report abuse

all you people are very nice and i agree with all of you i hope your opinions come trueeeeeeeeeeeeeeee.:)

Posted by: k-jackson | January 5, 2011 4:00 PM | Report abuse

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Posted by: k-jackson | January 5, 2011 3:56 PM | Report abuse

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Posted by: k-jackson | January 5, 2011 3:55 PM | Report abuse

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Posted by: k-jackson | January 5, 2011 3:55 PM | Report abuse

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Posted by: k-jackson | January 5, 2011 3:54 PM | Report abuse

There is a great disturbance in the force today.


Posted by: TheBabeNemo | January 5, 2011 3:54 PM | Report abuse

There is a great disturbance in the force today.


Posted by: TheBabeNemo | January 5, 2011 3:52 PM | Report abuse

ALRIGHT NO MORE JOKING AROUND!my opinion on this article is POOP! judging from the text facts and comments this has mistakes ALL OVER IT! i rest my case.

Posted by: k-jackson | January 5, 2011 3:52 PM | Report abuse

Heath Schuler is a cutie patootie.
That should qualify him.

Posted by: TheBabeNemo | January 5, 2011 3:47 PM | Report abuse

say "i" before a coment if you like the star wars movies!

Posted by: k-jackson | January 5, 2011 3:43 PM | Report abuse

Some of these so-called Democrats should move over to the Republican party where they would be more at home. Take Obama with you.

Posted by: rusty3 | January 5, 2011 3:40 PM | Report abuse

say "i" before a coment if you like the star wars movies!

Posted by: k-jackson | January 5, 2011 3:40 PM | Report abuse

"pie!!!!!!!!!!! iz epick who likes star wars!? me!!!!" I'm glad to see the writer of this article decided to respond to all of the comments about it.

Posted by: Quenn | January 5, 2011 3:38 PM | Report abuse

Here is what the Democrats and Obama have done with their two year majority:

1. Shifting private debt to the public sector (thereby freeing corporations, esp the financial industry, but also financial arms of GM, GE, etc, and saddling the middle class with the obligation to ‘pay it off’).

2. Watching private sector profits reach un-precedented levels (while investment goes abroad, hiring moves abroad, and manufacturing continues to disappear and un-employment continues).

3. Raising the defense budget 6% (so, when “cuts” come, the defense industries will be safely sandbagged).

4. Allowing the financial industry to 'borrow' from the ‘public sector’ (i.e. me and you) at 1% and buy bonds that pay 3% interest (Banks take your $1 and make $2 off each one they ‘borrowed’ from you. But, here’s the real deal: You gave them the $1 they ‘borrowed’, and you pay them the $2 interest they ‘earned’ on the bonds. All the money they ‘invest’ came from you – a ‘loan’ – and all the money they make comes from you – you have to cover the interest on the bonds).

5. Allowing the financial industry to 'borrow' from the ‘public sector’ (i.e. me and you again) at 1%, to loan to me and you at 4%, 12%, 18% or more mortgages, credit cards and other lines of credit (pocketing 3%, 11% and 17% on your and my money – first given to them by us, then ‘paid back with interest’ by us).

6. Giving private sector insurers a windfall: mandated customers, with a taxpayer-paid overhead rate of 20% for ‘mandated customers’ (20% of our premium spent on administration, CEO salaries, bonuses, sitting on Boards to set rates and decide who’s covered, lobbying for the insurers’ benefit, advertising and propagandizing to redefine more and more as ‘health care service’ while delivering fewer and fewer services --- essentially, giving our tax money to insurers to do with it what they will). *The American people wanted a government administered plan like Medicare - for everyone. (72% - CBS/New York Times poll June 2009)

7. Expanding the war in Afghanistan. (64% of the American people opposed expanding the war in Afghanistan and wanted to disentangle from Bush-era ‘War on Terror’ and ‘preventive war’ policies. Still, over 60% of Americans oppose the war.


8. Keeping the six too-big-to-fail banks – now bigger than ever; kept deposits at risk by maintaining huge grey areas between commercial and investment banking; didn't 'punish' the financial industry - now even more profitable, with bonuses among the biggest ever.

9. Supporting ‘The Compromise’ – giving billionaires $10 for each $1 to an un- or under-employed person or family.

What do you suppose the 'new House' will do?

Pelosi better get off her duff, if she's going to fight the McConnell/Obama/Boenher agenda. It could even be worse for the middle class under Boenher than it was under Pelosi. But, that would take a lot- see 1 - 9 above.

Posted by: theworm1 | January 5, 2011 3:38 PM | Report abuse

i iz bored :(

Posted by: k-jackson | January 5, 2011 3:37 PM | Report abuse

aunkmaa1 wrote: You act s though the Right Wing Rethugs dont have one on their backs? Keep on dreaming that somehow they are invulnerable.U wont be able to blame ACORN this time.
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No this time we have redistricting changes on our side. We almost took out Giffords in 2010. With a change to her district boundary just the teeniest little bit she's toast. God I love how the 2010 election will help us in 2012.

Posted by: Desertdiva1 | January 5, 2011 3:36 PM | Report abuse

pie!!!!!!!!!!! iz epick who likes star wars!? me!!!!

Posted by: k-jackson | January 5, 2011 3:34 PM | Report abuse

pie!!!!!!!!!!! iz epick who likes star wars!? me!!!!

Posted by: k-jackson | January 5, 2011 3:34 PM | Report abuse

pie!!!!!!!!!!! iz epick who likes star wars!? me!!!!

Posted by: k-jackson | January 5, 2011 3:33 PM | Report abuse

I'm sure the biggest celebration in D.C. today was at the Air Force office that coordinated use of Air Pelosi with the Speaker's office.

I'll bet they felt like someone drowning finally getting to the surface to grab a breath.

Posted by: Curmudgeon10 | January 5, 2011 3:28 PM | Report abuse

Go ahead and chastise your colleagues who will vote against this atrocious 2600+ page alleged health care legislation while accepting health benefits themselves. I suspect P-E-L-O-S-I utilized one of those large jets to transport YOUR grandchildren to Washington unlike those of us who pay to have our children/grandchildren travel across country. And I bet they munched on something other than stale prezels. So much for feigned indignation.

Posted by: miller8503 | January 5, 2011 3:27 PM | Report abuse

It must be "Bring Your Trained Monkey To Work Day" at the Washington Post, and the chimps are composing the stories.
Is there even such a thing as an editor, anymore?

Posted by: gmcduluth | January 5, 2011 3:27 PM | Report abuse

Is it really a good idea to use your readers as fact/spell/grammar checkers for your articles?

Posted by: Quenn | January 5, 2011 3:25 PM | Report abuse

Pelosi gives up use of the Gulfstream 5 jet for her travel. Just how does "a woman of the people" get to fly in a Gulfstream jet, and if so, does she no longer become a "woman of the people?"

Posted by: edgar_sousa | January 5, 2011 3:22 PM | Report abuse

@HotArdienteBoricua
Thanks for the clarification!

Posted by: kenskorupski | January 5, 2011 3:15 PM | Report abuse

Hey Giffords this won't help. You still have a bulls eye painted on your back for the 2012 election. This is one Democrat rep targeted for defeat. Pelosi screwed you the first time but your constituents still want you GONE!

You act s though the Right Wing Rethugs dont have one on their backs? Keep on dreaming that somehow they are invulnerable.U wont be able to blame ACORN this time.

Posted by: aunkmaa1 | January 5, 2011 3:13 PM | Report abuse

"she had not quite hear him". This article is riddled with errors.

Posted by: Quenn | January 5, 2011 3:05 PM | Report abuse


Shuler is from nowhere. He is another of the useless back benchers.


Posted by: mortified469 | January 5, 2011 3:02 PM | Report abuse

Fact check, please. Dan Boren is from Oklahoma, not Indiana.

Posted by: kathrynbanderson | January 5, 2011 3:00 PM | Report abuse

If you can't get it right as to the states our representatives are from, what else are you botching ? The mind shudders.

Posted by: dstice | January 5, 2011 2:58 PM | Report abuse

If you can't get it right as to the states our representatives are from, what else are you botching ? The mind shudders.

Posted by: dstice | January 5, 2011 2:57 PM | Report abuse

@kenskorupski - there is only 1 speaker and it does presumably go to the majority party since the expectation is that the vote will be along party lines. So, even though Pelosi received 173 of the votes, she is no longer Speaker because Boehner received the majority of the votes - 240. The votes for Pelosi were more ceremonial than anything because the Dems knew they didn't have the majority. Pelosi is now the Minority leader since the Dems voted her into that position a few weeks back.

Posted by: HotArdienteBoricua | January 5, 2011 2:57 PM | Report abuse

And Dan Boren is from Oklahoma, not Indiana.

Posted by: SuperiorityComplex | January 5, 2011 2:56 PM | Report abuse

I loved the Fix's tweet re. Heath
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@TheFix
The Fix
Heath Shuler getting as many voters for Speaker as he completed passes in Washington. Yeah, I said it. #congresswatch

http://twitter.com/#!/TheFix

Posted by: veritasinmedium | January 5, 2011 2:52 PM | Report abuse

Shuler played college ball in Tennessee

Posted by: proudgaycuban | January 5, 2011 2:49 PM | Report abuse

Heath the elected rep is from NC but he played QB for UT.

Posted by: FLvet | January 5, 2011 2:46 PM | Report abuse

Hey Giffords this won't help. You still have a bulls eye painted on your back for the 2012 election. This is one Democrat rep targeted for defeat. Pelosi screwed you the first time but your constituents still want you GONE!

Posted by: Desertdiva1 | January 5, 2011 2:44 PM | Report abuse

Heath Schuler is from NORTH CAROLINA, not Tennessee. Does the Post hire fact checkers any more?

Posted by: Abe2 | January 5, 2011 2:39 PM | Report abuse

Also, I thought there was only one Speaker and that went to the majority party?

Posted by: kenskorupski | January 5, 2011 2:38 PM | Report abuse

Also, I thought there was only one Speaker and that went to the majority party?

Posted by: kenskorupski | January 5, 2011 2:37 PM | Report abuse

All I know is that I don't want one cent of the money I give to campaigns to go to these Blue Dogs and I don't care if the door hits them on their way out. I'd rather a real Democrat run on a straight up fight over issues Democrats care about and lose than that someone think they are voting for a Democrat and get this.

Posted by: SarahBB | January 5, 2011 2:37 PM | Report abuse

However, the following was once accurate: Shuler (QB-Tenn.)

Posted by: HopesMa | January 5, 2011 2:36 PM | Report abuse

Good! The moderates and blue dogs are the Dem majority makers EVERY time. Dems can't get there with Liberals alone and never will. So throwing them under the bus, as Pelosi and her folks always do, is actually throwing the Dems collectively under the bus.

Posted by: lovinliberty | January 5, 2011 2:35 PM | Report abuse

Shuler is from NC, not TN. You guys always get in such a rush and make silly mistakes like this.

Posted by: wmichaeljones | January 5, 2011 2:32 PM | Report abuse

Shuler is from NC, not TN. You guys always get in such a rush and mess silly mistakes like this.

Posted by: wmichaeljones | January 5, 2011 2:31 PM | Report abuse

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