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Posted at 7:30 AM ET, 01/12/2011

Sarah Palin on Tucson shooting rampage: 'Acts of monstrous criminality stand on their own'

By Felicia Sonmez


Credit: Saul Loeb/AFP/Getty Images

Click links to see the following updates:

-Sarah Palin on Tucson shooting rampage: "Acts of monstrous criminality stand on their own"
-Loughner family releases statement
-Bill Clinton calls on House to change tone
-Sen. John McCain cuts short overseas trip to attend Tucson memorial service
-Tim Pawlenty jabs at Sarah Palin: "Wouldn't have been my style" to use crosshairs
-Senate Sergeant at Arms: Not a good idea for members to carry weapons

Updated: Wednesday, January 12, 2011, 7:30 a.m.

Former Alaska governor Sarah Palin (R) released a statement Wednesday morning denouncing efforts to blame her for Saturday's Tucson shooting rampage.

"Like many, I've spent the past few days reflecting on what happened and praying for guidance," Palin said in a lengthy statement posted on her Facebook page. "After this shocking tragedy, I listened at first puzzled, then with concern, and now with sadness, to the irresponsible statements from people attempting to apportion blame for this terrible event."

Palin called efforts to attribute blame for the shooting "reprehensible," saying that "especially within hours of a tragedy unfolding, journalists and pundits should not manufacture a blood libel that serves only to incite the very hatred and violence they purport to condemn."

Without naming him, Palin alluded to Rep. Robert Brady's (D-Pa.) plan to propose legislation that would make it a federal crime to use language or images that could be interpreted as inciting violence toward members of Congress or federal officials, saying the legislation "would criminalize speech [Brady] found offensive."

"It is in the hour when our values are challenged that we must remain resolved to protect those values," Palin said. "Recall how the events of 9-11 challenged our values and we had to fight the tendency to trade our freedoms for perceived security. And so it is today."

Also releasing a statement early Wednesday was former Nevada Assemblywoman Sharron Angle (R), who has come under criticism for stating during her unsuccessful bid to unseat Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) that supports should seek "Second Amendment remedies."

Angle, who is currently in California caring for her 88-year-old father, condemned Saturday's attack, calling it "a horrifying and senseless tragedy" that "should be condemned as a single act of violence, by a single unstable individual."

"Expanding the context of the attack to blame and to infringe upon the people's Constitutional liberties is both dangerous and ignorant," she said. "The irresponsible assignment of blame to me, Sarah Palin or the TEA Party movement by commentators and elected officials puts all who gather to redress grievances in danger."

Angle added that political finger-pointing is "an audience-rating game and contradicts the facts as they are known - that the shooter was obsessed with his twisted plans long before the TEA Party movement began."

The Facebook post was Palin's most extensive public statement since Saturday's tragedy. She posted a short condolence note on her site the day of the shootings, and conservative commentator Glenn Beck read some of his correspondence with Palin on his radio show in the days after the tragedy.

A Palin aide defended the former governor in an appearance on Alaska radio Sunday, saying that there was "nothing irresponsible" about the images of crosshairs used in a map of the 20 congressional districts targeted by Palin's PAC.

But the focus on Palin has only intensified since the shooting, and the former Alaska governor's response could have repercussions for her political future.

Click for more updates:

-Hill staffers, visitors pay tribute to Tucson shooting victims
-Loughner's mug shot released
-Tucson couple recalls Loughner visit: "He looked crazy as hell"
-National Rifle Association offers prayers for victims, families
-Education Secretary: Society "too often shirks responsibility for our collective safety"
-Steny Hoyer, Michigan lawmakers to attend Detroit Auto Show
-Loughner may get ''Unabomber'' attorney
-Patricia Maisch: "I was not one of the heroes"
-Dem and GOP reps.: We need to set an example
-Sheriff Dupnik continues criticism of political "vitriol"
-Giffords's husband asks for donations to American Red Cross and local food bank
-Pennsylvania Democrat to introduce legislation to protect lawmakers
-Gabrielle Giffords "troubled that Sarah Palin put her in crosshairs": Lawmaker
-Sarah Palin aide: "Obscene" to use Tucson tragedy to score political points
-Intern: "My first instinct" was to make sure Giffords was all right
-Clyburn: Political vitriol "has crossed the line"
-Dozens gather for Capitol vigil
-Health-care repeal vote postponed
-Giffords discussed budget cuts, health care in last interview before attack

Updated: 5:57

Jared Loughner's parents gave the following statement to reporters on Tuesday afternoon:

This is a very difficult time for us. We ask the media to respect our privacy. There are no words that can possibly express how we feel. We wish that there were, so we could make you feel better. We don't understand why this happened. It may not make any difference, but we wish that we could change the heinous events of Saturday. We care very deeply about the victims and their families. We are so very sorry for their loss.

Updated: 4:51

In an interview with BBC News conducted from Haiti, former president Bill Clinton said he would like to see the House of Representatives "lead the way" on toning down political attacks.

"This is an occasion for us to reaffirm that our political differences shouldn't degenerate into demonization, in the sense that if you don't agree with me you're not a good American," Clinton said. "No one intends to do anything that encourages this sort of behavior. But we cannot be unaware of the fact that -- particularly with the Internet -- there's this huge echo chamber out there," and that rhetoric "falls on the unhinged and the hinged alike."

Updated: 1:30 p.m.

Arizona Republican Sen. John McCain is cutting short a visit to Latin America in order to attend a memorial service for the victims of the Tucson shooting.

McCain's office confirmed to the Post that the senator is returning to his home state to attend Wednesday's memorial service, which President Obama also plans to attend.

McCain departed Friday to take part in a week-long congressional delegation to Colombia, Brazil, Chile, Mexico and Panama. Sen. John Barrasso (R-Wyo.) is accompanying McCain on the trip.

Updated: 8:05 a.m.

Former Minnesota governor Tim Pawlenty (R) said Tuesday morning that he wouldn't have used crosshairs on a map of targeted districts as former Alaska governor Sarah Palin's (R) political action committee did during the 2010 midterm campaign.

Pawlenty, who embarks this week on a national book tour ahead of an anticipated 2012 presidential bid, was doubling down on remarks he made to the New York Times that the crosshairs were "not a device I would have chosen to do." Palin's aides have said that the images were never intended to be crosshairs or incite violence.

"I think Gov. Palin is a remarkable leader; I think she brings a lot to the debate and the table, both nationally and within the Republican Party as well," Pawlenty said on ABC's "Good Morning America." "As to the New York Times quote, you know, it wouldn't have been my style to put the crosshairs on there. But again, there's no evidence to suggest that that had anything to do with this mentally unstable person's rage and senseless acts in Arizona."

Pawlenty also urged restraint in speculating about the political motivations of the alleged gunman, Jared Loughner.

"There's no reason to believe at this point that there's any motivating factor tied to a particular politician or a particular show or a particular act," Pawlenty said. "It appears to be the rage of a mentally unstable person, and sometimes they do irrational and senseless things."

He said that the incident "clearly" changes the political climate in the country, adding, "we could all benefit from a more civil and thoughtful discourse in this country."

Pawlenty is slated to appear on ABC's "The View" later Tuesday. Thursday, he kicks off his book tour at the National Press Club in Washington.

Updated: Tuesday, Jan. 11, 7:40 a.m.

Senate Sergeant at Arms Terrence Gainer said Tuesday morning that he was doubtful that members carrying weapons would contribute to their security. Several members, including Reps. Heath Shuler (D-N.C.) and Jason Chaffetz (R-Utah), have said since the shooting that they're considering carrying guns with them to constituent events in their districts.

"I don't think it's a good idea," Gainer told ABC's "Good Morning America." "I think we ought to leave the law enforcement and security to those professionals. But I do think there's things we can do to help minimize the risk in those districts."

Gainer said that he believed a better solution would be to increase the cooperation between members' district staff and the local police.

"I've been a policeman for 42 years and I don't think introducing more guns to the situation is helpful," he said.

Asked to describe the nature of the threats members have received in the past, Gainer called them "rather bizarre," adding that most have been "from people who have demonstrated erratic behavior." He added that there were only 49 threats in the Senate last year.

"When you think of the tens of thousands of interactions that members of the Senate or House have with the public, it's actually very low," Gainer said.


Updated: 8:50 p.m.

Scores of congressional staffers and others offered their condolences and well-wishes for Rep. Gabrielle Giffords (D-Ariz.) and the other victims of the Tucson shooting rampage at a Capitol Hill book-signing Monday afternoon.

The event, which was organized jointly by House Speaker John Boehner (R-Ohio) and House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.), drew dozens of Hill staffers, visitors and members of Congress on the day before the House comes back into session following Saturday's tragedy. The book-signing is expected to take place from 9 a.m. to 5 p.m. each day for the rest of the week.

Staffers and others lined up single-file in the rotunda of the Cannon House Office Building to sign two books for the victims -- a condolence book and a book of well-wishes. The books were placed on a simple fold-out table in the middle of the elegant rotunda, which was mostly silent as a steady stream of about a dozen people at a time waited in line to pay their respects.

Among those who came to pay tribute was Richard Foltin, the director of national and legislative affairs for the American Jewish Committee's office of government and international affairs.

Foltin said that he'd never met Giffords but felt compelled to attend the book-signing in order to show his support, noting that Giffords traveled with the committee to Israel about ten years ago.

"We understand that this trip had a great impact on her," he said. "Even in this time of sorrow, we think about that and that connection really strengthens our prayers, not only for her but also for all of those that were injured."

Foltin, 59, added that while the motivation behind Saturday's attack remains unclear, the incident made him recall "those horrible days when Martin Luther King and then Robert Kennedy were killed."

"One always hopes that we're not going to see these kinds of things anymore," he said. "There are deep differences between people on very important issues, and those need to be expressed, and they're part of living in a diverse society. But the challenge for us is to have those differences and yet to come together and not ever see violence be part of the picture."

Jessica Craddock, 20, was finishing up her first day as an intern for a Georgia Republican lawmaker when the book-signing was taking place.

The University of Georgia sophomore said that even in the few days she's been on Capitol Hill, she's noticed a change.

"I feel different," Craddock said. "I feel like the political climate in America is completely changed now. People have to be more on guard about what they say."

Craddock said that she feels safe working on Capitol Hill because "there's so many security checkpoints around here," as compared to her previous work on campaigns.

"Here, you have the safety of a door and security guards and a phone that if people start yelling at you, you can actually disconnect the line," she said. "You don't have to stand there and have someone physically and verbally yell at you."

Even so, Craddock added, her parents "have been texting me non-stop to make sure everything's okay."

One Capitol Hill worker who attended the book-signing brushed away tears as she left the rotunda.

The woman, who declined to give her name because she wasn't authorized to speak with reporters, said that she hadn't known Giffords or her staffers but wanted to sign her name in part because President Obama told the nation ahead of this morning's moment of silence that the country must come together.

"I do think we take it as a personal loss," the woman said of the death of Giffords's director of community outreach, Gabe Zimmerman.

She added that while she's concerned about her security, she won't allow the shooting incident to change the way she carries on her life.

"You just can't base your life on these things," she said.

Updated: 6:24 p.m.

The Pima County Sheriff's Department has released a mugshot of Loughner, who will face state murder charges in addition to the federal charges already filed:

Updated: 3 p.m.

A Tucson couple recalled to the New York Daily News a visit that Jared Loughner paid to their house in August, during which the alleged gunman showed up on a motorized bike and stared at the residents with a "look of pure evil."

"He just looked at me with this slight smile. He was just looking at me for a long time. ... He looked crazy as hell, but at the same time he looked like a little kid," Susan Ward told the Daily News.

Ward said that she was so frightened by the incident that she went to a hotel that night and later purchased a gun. "I was so shaken by that experience," she said.

Ward and her husband, Norman, reportedly had moved into the home owned by a former classmate of Loughner's at Pima County Community College. The former classmate, Lynda Sorenson, had warned school officials that Loughner "scared the living crap out of me"; Loughner later was kicked out of the school.

Updated: 12:25 p.m.

The National Rifle Association declined Monday to enter the political fray over Saturday's shootings in Tucson.

Asked to weigh in on the role of the Brady Bill's expiration in the shooting, NRA spokesman Andrew Arulanandam told Politico's Byron Tau: "Anything other than prayers for the victims and their families at this time would be inappropriate."

The Brady Campaign has contended that the 1994 assault-weapons ban, which expired in 2004, would have prevented the alleged gunman, Jared Loughner, from buying ammunition clips holding more than 10 rounds.

Updated: 11:30 a.m.

Secretary of Education Arne Duncan released a statement Monday morning expressing grief over the Tucson shootings and laying part of the blame on "a society that too often shirks responsibility for our collective safety."

"The tragedy in Tucson leaves me sick with grief and sadness," Duncan said. "A dedicated Congresswoman, a respected federal Judge, and a curious nine-year-old girl interested in public service are among the victims not only of a deranged madman but also of a society that too often shirks responsibility for our collective safety. My heart goes out to the victims and their families."

-- Nick Anderson

Updated: 9:40 a.m.

House Minority Whip Steny Hoyer (D-Md.) and several Michigan lawmakers are proceeding with their plans to attend the North American International Auto Show today in Detroit, even as House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) has canceled her plans to attend.

Hoyer will join Michigan Democratic Reps. John Dingell, Sander Levin and Gary Peters at the auto show. Hoyer and Dingell are slated to hold a news conference at 3:30 p.m.

Updated: 9:04 a.m.

Jared Loughner, the alleged shooter in the Tucson tragedy, may receive the same legal representation as the "Unabomber."

Heather Williams, the first assistant federal public defender in Arizona, said officials are asking that San Diego lawyer Judy Clarke be appointed.

Clarke, a former federal public defender in San Diego and Spokane, Wash., served on teams that defended "Unabomber" Ted Kaczynski and Susan Smith, a South Carolina woman who drowned her two sons in 1994.

Updated: 8:45 a.m.

Patricia Maisch, the woman who wrestled an ammunition magazine away from the alleged gunman, Jared Loughner, pushed back Monday morning against the idea that she was one of the heroes of the incident.

"The two gentlemen that knocked [Loughner] down are my heroes," Maisch told CBS's "Early Show," referring to Roger Salzgeber and Bill Badger. "I was not one of the heroes."

Maisch added that Loughner had had a stocking cap on his head and that she could see only part of the left side of his face as he lay on the ground.

Daniel Hernandez, the 20-year-old intern whose quick action at the scene may have saved Rep. Gabrielle Giffords's life, recounted the ambulance ride to the hospital, during which he stayed by Giffords's side and held her hand.

"She was really responsive to what I was saying, and when I mentioned Mark [Giffords's husband] and her parents, her grip got a little bit tighter," Hernandez told "Fox and Friends."

Joseph Zamudio, one of the three men who pinned down Loughner in the immediate aftermath of Saturday's shooting, said that he was at a nearby Walgreens buying a pack of cigarettes when he heard the gunfire, which sounded "like popcorn or fireworks or something."

"I was at the counter; I didn't even finish my transaction. ... I just took off running for the door," Zamudio told Fox News on Monday morning.

Zamudio, who said that he received his first gun at "around 8 or 9" years old, added that he was carrying a gun at the time of the shooting and that while he didn't use it Saturday, the incident reinforced his decision to carry a firearm.

"I don't even know if I'll go through an airport again because I can't take it with me," he said.

Updated 7:52 a.m.

Lawmakers on Monday morning continued to debate whether the state of political discourse has crossed the line.

Rep. Debbie Wasserman Schultz (D-Fla.) said on CNN that lawmakers should set an example "so that the outside world, the media the shock jocks ... are more measured and careful about how we disagree."

Both Wasserman Schultz and Rep. Ted Poe (R-Tex.) said that they weren't likely to stop meeting with their constituents in the wake of the shooting.

"When we leave Congress, we all head to the airports ... and start seeing people. And I think we will continue to do that," Poe said.

-- Emi Kolawole and Felicia Sonmez

Updated: 7:10 a.m.

Pima County Sheriff Clarence Dupnik renewed his criticism of political "vitriol" Monday morning in the aftermath of Saturday's shooting in Tucson.

"The anger that is generated against government and public officials ... is partly responsible for these kinds of incidents," Dupnik said in an appearance on CNN's "American Morning." "Because people who have troubled personalities are very susceptible ... it's a sad thing."

Dupnik said investigators have ruled out the involvement of anyone but alleged gunman Jared Loughner in the shooting, which killed six and left 14 injured. He called Loughner "a very troubled individual" and said that investigators had eyewitness testimony and other evidence that Loughner specifically targeted Rep. Gabrielle Giffords. The Arizona Democrat was shot in the head and is fighting for her life at a Tucson hospital.

On whether there might have been any warning of Loughner's potentially violent behavior, Dupnik responded that he believed law enforcement "had some information" about some of his behavior but cautioned against the notion that there were "red flags" to suggest that he was troubled to the point of carrying out such a violent act.

Asked to clarify his reference to Tucson being the "Tombstone" of America, Dupnik replied that he was referring to the Old West town.

-- Emi Kolawole and Felicia Sonmez

Updated: Monday, Jan, 10, 1:00 a.m.

Mark Kelly, husband of Rep. Gabrielle Giffords (D-Ariz.), released the following statement early Monday morning:

On behalf of Gabby and our entire family, I want to extend our heartfelt gratitude to the people of Arizona and this great nation for their unbelievable outpouring of support. Gabby was doing what she loved most -- hearing from her constituents -- when this tragedy occurred. Serving Southern Arizonans is her passion, and nothing makes her more proud than representing them in Congress.
Like all Americans, we mourn the loss of Judge John M. Roll, Christina Taylor Green, Dorothy Morris, Phyllis Schneck, Dorwan Stoddard and Gabe Zimmerman, a fine man and beloved member of Gabby's team. We must never forget them, and our prayers are with their families. Our hearts go out to everyone injured yesterday; we hope and pray for their quick recovery. We also extend our thanks and appreciation to all of the first responders, medical personnel, law enforcement, and Arizona citizens who acted swiftly on Saturday and continue to assist our community through this tragedy. Many stories of heroism are emerging, and they are a source of strength for us during this difficult time. We are forever grateful.
Many of you have offered help. There is little that we can do but pray for those who are struggling. If you are inspired to make a positive gesture, consider two organizations that Gabby has long valued and supported: Tucson's Community Food Bank and the American Red Cross.

Community Food Bank

3003 S Country Club Rd # 221

Tucson, AZ 85713-4084

(520) 622-0525

American Red Cross, Southern Arizona Chapter

2916 East Broadway Boulevard

Tucson, AZ 85716

(520) 318-6740

Updated: 11:17 p.m.

Illinois Democratic Rep. Danny Davis said Sunday evening that he had received a threatening e-mail message, one day after the Tucson shooting rampage in which Rep. Gabrielle Giffords (D-Ariz.) was seriously injured.

Davis told the Chicago Tribune that "it was some person who emailed one of my staff persons and said that 'Danny Davis is next.'" Davis said that his office had contacted the U.S. Capitol Police and the Chicago police.

Davis described the e-mail's author as a Chicagoan who "operates around and in the community" and has been known to "do this before."

Davis overwhelmingly won election to an eighth term in November and until last week was a candidate in the Feb. 22 race to succeed retiring Chicago Mayor Richard M. Daley. Davis withdrew his candidacy last week and announced his endorsement of former Sen. Carol Moseley Braun.

Updated: 8:55 p.m.

A Democratic lawmaker plans to introduce legislation that would make it a federal crime to use language or images that could be interpreted as inciting violence toward members of Congress or federal officials.

Pennsylvania Democratic Rep. Robert Brady told The Washington Post Sunday night that he plans to introduce the legislation as soon as possible. The bill would give members of Congress and federal officials the same protections from threatening language and imagery as afforded to the president.

"It's not a wake-up call, it's a four-alarmer," Brady said of the Tucson shootings, adding that he last spoke with Rep. Gabrielle Giffords (D-Ariz.) on Friday, the day before the attacks. Brady emphasized that he views the problem of increasingly stepped-up political rhetoric as "not a Democratic or Republican issue; it's a civility issue."

The section of the U.S. Code that Brady said he'd like to extend to lawmakers and other officials is Title 18, Section 871, which reads:

"Whoever knowingly and willfully deposits for conveyance in the mail or for a delivery from any post office or by any letter carrier any letter, paper, writing, print, missive, or document containing any threat to take the life of, to kidnap, or to inflict bodily harm upon the President of the United States, the President-elect, the Vice President or other officer next in the order of succession to the office of President of the United States, or the Vice President-elect, or knowingly and willfully otherwise makes any such threat against the President, President-elect, Vice President or other officer next in the order of succession to the office of President, or Vice President-elect, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than five years, or both."

Brady said that he's confident his planned legislation would pass muster as it would simply be an extension of the existing U.S. Code.

"The bill's written already, it's constitutional," he said.

Asked about the images of crosshairs used by former Alaska governor Sarah Palin's (R) PAC in a map detailing its 20 targeted members, including Giffords, Brady said that the imagery was an example of how political rhetoric and discourse has taken a turn for the negative.

"I think we should make it that people cant do that," Brady said. "There was a crosshair on Gabby Giffords, and where's she at now? ... I don't know if we're giving people ideas by doing something like that, but we've got to do something to make that criminal."

A Palin aide contended in a Saturday radio interview that the crosshairs images were "never intended to be gun sights."

CNN first reported the news of Brady's planned legislation.

Updated: 7:30 p.m.

House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) has canceled a previously-scheduled trip to Detroit for the North American International Auto Show in the aftermath of the Tucson shootings.

Pelosi had been slated to attend the auto show on Monday afternoon along with House Minority Whip Steny Hoyer (D-Md.), Rep. John Dingell (D-Mich.) and several other lawmakers. Both Pelosi and Hoyer attended the auto show last year.

An aide confirmed that Pelosi will not attend the show and is not expected to conduct any interviews or have a public schedule on Monday.

Updated: 1:20 p.m.

Rep. James P. Moran Jr. (D-Va.), a friend of Rep. Gabrielle Giffords' (D-Ariz.) since she was elected to the House, said Sunday she told him just a week and a half ago that she was worried about the potential for violence back home.

"Gabby did tell me that she was concerned," Moran said. "She did say it's really bad out there, particularly in a district like [hers]. She was very much troubled that Sarah Palin put her in the crosshairs."

Moran said Giffords explained that, unlike in his Northern Virginia district, "a substantial percentage" of her district was "anti-government and pro-gun" --- a potentially dangerous mix.

-- Ben Pershing

Updated: 12:30 p.m.

Rep. Gabrielle Giffords (D-Ariz.) is sedated following her surgery, according to doctors at the University Medical Center at Tucson Sunday afternoon.

Peter Rhee, medical director of the trauma center at the University Medical Center at Tucson, said at a news conference that Giffords had emerged from heavy sedation Sunday morning and was able to respond to commands. Giffords is currently on a ventilator and in a medical coma, "but we very frequently wake her up to see what her progress is, to make sure that something catastrophic hasn't occurred while she's asleep," Rhee said.

Doctors said that it was a "positive sign" that the bullet that Giffords was hit with did not pass through more than one lobe of the brain. They added that brain swelling is the biggest threat to Giffords right now, but that they are "cautiously optimistic" about her recovery.

Updated: 11:55 a.m.

Amid finger-pointing from some liberals who charge that Sarah Palin's "target list" played a role in Saturday's shooting in Tucson, an aide to the former Alaska governor told a radio show host Saturday night that using the tragedy as a means of scoring political points is "obscene" and "appalling."

According to the Alaska Dispatch site, Palin aide Rebecca Mansour said in an interview with Alaska radio host Tammy Bruce, a Palin supporter, that there was "nothing irresponsible" about the 20 crosshair-like symbols that appeared on a map of districts targeted last year by Palin's PAC, including that of Rep. Gabrielle Giffords (D-Ariz.).

"We never ever, ever intended it to be gun sights. ... We never imagined, it never occurred to us that anybody would consider it violent," Mansour said.

Updated: 11:25 a.m.

Bipartisan House leaders have scheduled a Sunday afternoon conference call for lawmakers, their spouses and their chiefs of staff following Saturday's shooting rampage in Tucson.

House Republican Conference Chairman Jeb Hensarling (Tex.) and Democratic Caucus Chairman John Larson (Conn.) will host the call, which is slated to begin at 1:30 p.m. Eastern. More than 1,000 callers are expected to join in on the call.

House Sergeant at Arms Bill Livingood and representatives from the Capitol Police and the FBI will give a report on the shooting, the investigation and security measures for lawmakers.

In addition, a representative from the attending physician's office is expected to brief members on the condition of Giffords and her staff, and House Majority Leader Eric Cantor (R-Va.) will give an update on the floor schedule for the coming week.

-- Ben Pershing contributed to this report.

Updated: 11:15 a.m.

Tillman Fertitta, a family friend of Rep. Gabrielle Giffords (D-Ariz.), said Sunday morning that the lawmaker is in an induced coma.

"She is in an induced coma right now, and she'll be in the induced coma for the next few days," Fertitta said during an appearance on ABC's "This Week." "That's what the doctors feel like is best. They've got to make sure she's not -- I'm not a doctor, but they've got to make sure that, you know, they control the, you know -- that the brain continues to operate well."

Updated: 10:40 a.m.

Daniel Hernandez, a 20-year-old intern for Rep. Gabrielle Giffords (D-Ariz.) whose quick action Saturday may have saved the lawmaker's life, told ABC News on Sunday morning that his first instinct was to run to Giffords's side.

"When the shooting started, my first instinct was to try and make sure that the congresswoman and her staff were okay," Hernandez said in a telephone interview on ABC's "This Week." "I have limited experience in triage and training, so when I heard gunshots, my first instinct was to head towards the congresswoman to make sure that she was okay."

The Arizona Republic profiled Hernandez on Sunday, noting that the University of Arizona junior had begun working for Giffords five days before Saturday's incident. When shots were fired, Hernandez said he immediately ran in the direction of the gunfire.

"When this happened, I kind of just shut off all emotion, because I knew I wouldn't be any good to anyone if I had a breakdown or if I ran away or if I did anything other than try and help those who needed help, so that was the congresswoman and her staff and several constituents," Hernandez said on ABC.

Hernandez said that Giffords "was alert and conscious" in the immediate aftermath of the attack.

"She was able to hold my hand when I asked her if she could hear me. I wasn't able to get any words from her. She may have been trying, but because of the way that I was having to hold her, it was a lot easier just to, 'If you can hear me, Gabby, just grab my hand to let me know that you're okay.' So it was just communication that she was doing by -- by grabbing my hand and acknowledging that -- that she could hear me."

Updated: Sunday, Jan. 9, 2011, 10 a.m.

Following Saturday's attack against Rep. Gabrielle Giffords (D-Ariz.), House Assistant Democratic Leader James Clyburn (S.C.) said Sunday morning that he agreed with Pima County Sheriff Clarence Dupnik's criticism of political "vitriol" and called for congressional leaders to more forcefully condemn overheated rhetoric.

"I think the sheriff out there in Tucson, I think he's got it right; words do have consequences," Clyburn said in an appearance on "Fox News Sunday." "And this is nothing new. I've been saying this for a long time now. We're getting ready to celebrate this weekend the birthday of Martin Luther King, Jr., who admonished us that we are going to regret in this generation not just for the vitriolic words and deeds of bad people but for the appalling silence of good people."

Clyburn also said he applauded the Republican leadership's reaction to the attacks but called on all members of leadership to do more. He specifically pointed to an instance during the 2010 campaign when Nevada Assemblywoman Sharron Angle (R), who fell short in her bid to unseat Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.), called for supporters to take "Second Amendment remedies."

"We saw a candidate for the United States Senate saying that if you can't get what you want at the ballot box, 'let's seek Second Amendment remedies,'" Clyburn said. "What does that mean? That is a very vitriolic statement, and I think that somebody is responsible for speaking up and denouncing that kind of stuff. When you don't denounce it, people keep ratcheting it up and people get to a point where you cross the line. And I think that in this instance, this issue has crossed the line."

Among those also appearing on the show was Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.). Paul, an ophthalmologist, decried the attacks and speculated that Loughner may have suffered from paranoid schizophrenia.

"I think most importantly, in the initial stages here, we need to emphasize the humanity and tragedy of this whole thing," Paul said. "We're people like anybody else. Representative Giffords has a family and children, and I think that's what's most important, that we talk about the tragedy and how awful this is before we take a step beyond that. Once you do take a step beyond that, I've looked at some of the writings of this young man, and from a medical point of view, there's a lot to suggest paranoid schizophrenia, that this man was a really sick individual."

Asked whether the issue of gun control might have played a role in the attacks, Paul said he was doubtful, noting that Giffords is a defender of the Second Amendment.

"I don't think that plays into this at all," Paul said. "Really, I think they're unrelated. It's probably about a very sick individual and what should've been done for that person. But the weapons don't kill people; it's the individual that killed these people."

Updated: 11:20 p.m.

The nine-year old girl who was killed in Saturday's shooting has been identified as Christina Taylor Green.

Green was born on Sep. 11, 2001, according to Tucson TV station KVOA.

The Arizona Republic reports that Green was taken to Saturday's event by a neighbor who thought she would enjoy it.

Green had been elected to her school's student council and had loved swimming, horseback riding, basketball and ballet, according to local reports.

Updated: 10:50 p.m.

Giffords spokesperson C.J. Karamargin told The Washington Post that among those shot were three Giffords staffers, one of whom, Gabe Zimmerman, died Saturday. The other two -- Ron Barber, Giffords' district director, and Pam Simon, a community outreach aide -- were expected to recover.

"He did this job for a reason: to help people," Karamargin said of Zimmerman, who was a social worker by profession. He organized all of Giffords' "Congress on Your Corner" events and town halls.

John M. Roll, the federal judge killed in the shooting, had been shopping at the supermarket, not part of the community event. Leaving the Safeway, Karamargin said, Roll saw the congresswoman and "stopped by to say hi."

An intern at the event played a critical role in helping Giffords, as he has had some nurse training and aided her until the EMS arrived.

-- Paul Kane

Updated: 8:45 p.m.

Just after 7 p.m., several dozen well-wishers gathered on the steps of the Capitol for a vigil for Rep. Gabrielle Giffords (D-Ariz.) and the other victims of Saturday's shooting spree in Tucson.

Many were native Arizonans who were stunned at the violent incident back home and seeking some comfort. others connected it to the current political atmosphere.

"We wanted to send some kind of message nationally that maybe it's time for us to stop inciting violence by bringing guns to rallies and that type of thing," said Jason Gooljer, 31, who helped organize the event via Facebook around 4 p.m.

When asked if he partially blamed Alaska governor Sarah Palin, who posted a U.S. map on her Facebook page last year depicting gun crosshairs over Democrats she wanted to defeat, he said, "of course her language played a part. We'd like to see this stop."

Standing outside the Capitol amid an icy wind, Dana Mozie Jr., a 42-year-old consultant from the District of Columbia, said that he hadn't known Giffords personally but decided to brave the winter night to show his support for the congresswoman.

"Even if I'm just one person. ... It was one person that caused all that tragedy, then I'll be that one person here to symbolically let them know that yeah, we do care," Mozie said.

Mozie said he was stunned that the attack happened days after House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) handed the gavel over to House Speaker John Boehner (R-Ohio) in a peaceful transfer of power.

"This was the moment you feared," Mozie said. "This is something you see overseas, in Iraq and other countries, political violence. You wonder, is this the tip of the spear? Has America come to the point where we are unbelievers in the process?"

A Tucson native who works on Capitol Hill wiped away tears as he left the vigil.

"It's senseless," he said of the attacks.

-- Sandhya Somashekhar and Felicia Sonmez

Updated: 8:15 p.m.

House Majority Leader Eric Cantor (R-Va.) announced after speaking with congressional leaders from both parties Saturday evening that the House will postpone all legislative action planned for next week. The House had been slated to debate and vote on a measure to repeal the national health-care overhaul.

"Our nation was shocked by the tragedy in Arizona earlier today," Cantor said. "Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords, members of her staff, and others became the victims of a senseless act of violence. Congresswoman Giffords serves Arizona's 8th District with distinction and thoughtful leadership, and it is horrifying that she was exposed to such violence at an event designed to reach the people she represents. I couldn't agree more with Speaker Boehner, who earlier said that, 'an attack on one who serves is an attack on all who serve.' Along with our nation, this institution has suffered a horrible tragedy. We are saddened, mourn those who lost their lives, and stand together in hopeful prayer for the recovery of the victims and their families."

"All legislation currently scheduled to be considered by the House of Representatives next week is being postponed so that we can take whatever actions may be necessary in light of today's tragedy," Cantor added. "Further information relating to a revised House schedule will be released tomorrow."

Updated: 6:40 p.m.

A vigil for Rep. Gabrielle Giffords (D-Ariz.) is planned for 7 p.m. tonight on Capitol Hill, according to a Facebook page publicizing the event.

The vigil's organizers plan to meet at the corner of 1st Street and Independence Ave. SW and walk to the Capitol.

The Arizona state House Democrats have also made plans for a vigil in Phoenix at 6 p.m. local time Saturday night.

"Our thoughts and prayers go out to Congresswoman Giffords, her staffers, others and their families," House Democratic Leader Chad Campbell said. "This is a horrific and senseless act, and we are all praying and sending out our thoughts for the victims today."

Updated: 6:05 p.m.

Giffords' last national television interview before Saturday's attack was with Fox News Channel's Bill Hemmer on Friday. In the four-minute interview, Giffords discussed her proposal for a 5 percent pay cut for members of Congress and her support for the House's recent move to cut committee and legislative office operating budgets by 5 percent. She also touched on the ongoing debate over the national health care overhaul.

"It was great political theater to look at some of these town halls," Giffords said of the summer 2009 town hall meetings on health care. "I had very passionate town halls in southern Arizona. But the reality is that this Congress, for example, passed a bipartisan $600 million border security funding bill in August. ... There were a lot of bipartisan bills that passed."

Updated: 5:40 p.m.

Giffords's husband, astronaut Mark Kelly, flew Saturday afternoon on a private plane from Houston to Tucson, according to a NASA spokesman. The plane was not a NASA jet, according to the spokesman.

Kelly is living and training in Houston and is set to command STS-134, a Space Shuttle Endeavour mission scheduled to launch on April 1.

-- Ed O'Keefe

Updated: 5:10 p.m.

U.S. Capitol Police on Saturday urged members of Congress to exercise caution in the aftermath of an attack on Rep. Gabrielle Giffords (D-Ariz.) at an event with constituents in Tucson.

"While the United States Capitol Police does not specifically discuss the security of Members of Congress including details on our protective measures, the United States Capitol Police has communicated with House Members of Congress advising them to take reasonable and prudent precautions regarding their personal safety and security," Capitol police spokesperson Kimberly Schneider said in a statement Saturday afternoon.

"The United States Capitol Police remains at a high level of readiness, consistent with our operating conditions on U.S. Capitol Grounds, and we continue to maintain a robust presence," Schneider added.

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Look at all the demokrats (blacks, jews, homos, illegals, communists, muslims) wetting themselves the moment they realize they are outmanned and outgunned and that they can't legislate themselves out of the cold, hard facts.

You exist at our discretion, and we're tired of you.

Posted by: dicksucker | January 12, 2011 7:14 PM | Report abuse

Sarah Palin's indignant response reminds me of a teenager who is cought lying and responds by angrily saying "I can't believe you would accuse me of such a thing." The facts and the truth are irrelevant because, as always with Sarah, it's all about her.

Posted by: gohogs | January 12, 2011 5:18 PM | Report abuse

It's all so very depressing...

The origin of the blood libel can be traced back to the Graeco-Egyptian author Apion, who claimed that Jews sacrificed Greek victims in their temple.

Apion (20s BC - c. 45-48 AD), Graeco-Egyptian grammarian, sophist and commentator on Homer, was born at the Siwa Oasis, and flourished in the first half of the 1st century AD. Apion studied at Alexandria, and headed one of the deputations sent to Caligula (in 40) to attack the Jews with claims of disloyalty following inter communal riots that left many Greeks and Jews dead. Apion's criticisms of Jewish culture and history were replied to by Josephus in Against Apion. He settled in Rome at an unknown date. Apion taught rhetoric until the reign of Claudius.[1] He wrote several works, none of which has survived. The well-known story "Androclus and the Lion", which is preserved in Aulus Gellius [2] is from his work: Aegypytiacorum ("Wonders of Egypt"). The surviving fragments of his work are printed the Etymologicum Gudianum, ed. Sturz, 1818.

A history of the Jewish people
By Abraham Malamat, Haim Hillel Ben-Sasson (page 289) has more.

Posted by: Skowronek | January 12, 2011 3:41 PM | Report abuse

So "acts of monstrous criminality stand on their own." Well, 9/11 was an act of monstrous criminality, and it didn't stand on its own. The Fort Dix massacre was an act of monstrous criminality, and it didn't stand on its own. The Tate/Labianca murders were acts of monstrous criminality, and they didn't stand on their own. I could go on and on.
I'm not saying Sarah Palin's actions are morally equivalent to any of these horrific events, but she is wrong, wrong, wrong in her premise that the culpability for horrible crimes ends with those those who pull the trigger.
Sarah Palin really needs a class in ethics. I hate to say it, but Barbara Bush was right -- Sarah Palin just needs to stay in Alaska and keep her nose out of national business.

Posted by: dparks2 | January 12, 2011 2:10 PM | Report abuse

andrew23boyle says:

he entire ad features Rep. Hayworth framed in a sniper's scope. The reticule is most clearly visible especially around 9-10 seconds into the film.

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You are a liar, Andrew. That reticule appears quite briefly, and could be from not a sniper's scope but from a camera view finder. Furthermore, and even more importantly, there is NO call for his assassination, NO reference to "2nd Amendment solutions", so no, this is not at all comparable to Beck saying "kill Pelosi" or to Sharon Angle calling for armed insurrection and assassination.

Posted by: Syllogizer | January 12, 2011 1:48 PM | Report abuse

The only thing Palin and Angle can convince us of now is their own failure to face responsibility for their criminal words.

Angle specifically called for "2nd Amendment solutions". What else could that be other than a call for either assassination or rebellion? She can't back out now.

Posted by: Syllogizer | January 12, 2011 1:35 PM | Report abuse

Palin and the Teabaggers have chosen the wrong road to the White House. They give the image of violence when they ask their members to shout down our Representatives in government at meetings. They tell them to be disruptive.

They ask them to "bring your weapons"..Bachmann. They suggest "Second Ammendment Solutions" (Angyl) if certain candidates lose. Palin stood by as people at her rallies during the election shouted out "Kill him", or "Shoot him" when Obama's name was mentioned. Palin likes to say..."RELOAD!" Cold fish from Arizona, Gov. Jan Brewer and the rest of her female tough-talking teabaggers give me the chills. I do NOT like what they say and how they say it, all with the support of Beck and Limblah.

Carl Paladino, Gov. Cuomo's Teabagger opponent in the gubenatorial election in NY last November threatened a reporter ON CAMERA by saying he would "take him out". HE lost! He lost by a LOT!

Palin used gun metaphors, crosshairs and bullseyes, and targeted Gifford's district and used her NAME by the crosshairs! She loved her Annie Oakley image, GUNS!

Palin did not have enough class to apologize IF there was a possibility her words were harmful to Giffords. Palin has no intelligence, no CLASS, evident to a lot of us for a long time. But Teabaggers love her.

Palin and the Teabaggers are finished.

Posted by: cashmere1 | January 12, 2011 11:21 AM | Report abuse


Palin feels she is right once again: enough about honoring the victims and their families on this day of remembrance in Tucson but let's get to the real blood in the matter - the "blood libel" against the poor, peaceable, victim Sarah Palin...the real victim in this tragedy.

Never mind she fully embodies the "shrill cry of imagined insults" she talked about today when her own words and images have to be taken down from her website immediately after the killings because they are examples of the violent images she traffics in. She is angered and victimized when her words are repeated as emblems of a violent national discourse. But that is not all, she lied repeatedly to the nation on "death panels" and the President "palling around with terrorists" yet feels we should honor her for her many virtues. Are these the examples of the "spirited debate" she alleges the world is amazed to see in America? Then she must be proud to be the Republican standard bearer for taking the country back one way or the other. Intimidation has no purpose in our system and she doesn't even know it.

She has been an arctic grifter from the first we saw of her and today she seriously misfired in her play for national sympathy when there are real victims still hurting badly in Tucson.


(Blood libel is a monstrous term to use today and makes not sense anyway.

Blood libel - the accusation that Jews murder Christian Children to make Matzot for passover, or for other purpose.)

Posted by: FoundingMother | January 12, 2011 11:09 AM | Report abuse

IT'S TIME THE MEDIA STOP GIVING AIRTIME TO NUTJOBS LIKE SARAH PALIN AND FOR LAW ENFORCEMENT TO START CRACKING DOWN ON RIGHT WING NUTJOBS IN THE MEDIA WHEN THEY START ADVOCATING VIOLENCE!
It was only a matter of time before a TEABAGGER killed a Democrat.

Posted by: fishman2 | January 8, 2011 2:01 PM | Report abuse

~~~~Carl Paladino, Gov. Cuomo of NY's opponent in the election in November, was the Teabaggers choice to run for governor. He had a lot of excess baggage, yet the baggers were behind him. ON CAMERA, he had an argument with a reporter at a gathering, and threatened to "take him out!" because he was asked a question about his 10 year old illegitimate daughter.

When he was asked how that man would be taken out, he replied, "Just watch!!"

Teabaggers give the image of violence constantly, then wonder why they are so criticized. They shout "Kill him", or "Shoot him" when Palin mentioned Obama's name during the campaign. They come to gatherings with guns strapped to their bodies because it was "legal".

Teabaggers use words like "Reload", and crosshairs, and bullseye, "Second Amendment remedies" (Angyl), and "bring your weapons"...(Bachmann). They are not promoting peace and harmony, no.. they are promoting VIOLENCE, and when it happens, they try to distance themselves from THEIR rhetoric falling on the ears of lunatic followers too ignorant to distance themselves from it.

Palin... you missed your chance to show some class. All you had to do was apologize IF your words had ANY effect on the actions of Loughner, and a promise to tone down the rhetoric. NONE of you have done that. Baggers belong IN the lunatic fringe!

MY Representative in Congress, newly elected who won by 650 votes and defeated the incumbent, was cited for tax evasion in two weeks AFTER the election. She owes $6800 to NY State. I wonder how the baggers kept it out of the news until AFTER the election?

Teabaggers, you had a right to demand change if you are not happy with the way things are going. But you chose the wrong road to get there. YOU are finished.

By the way, I am not a leftie. I am a RINO!

Posted by: cashmere1 | January 12, 2011 11:05 AM | Report abuse

Sarah Palin did not write that article on herself. She is not that smart or deep. For her to come out and tell everyone that Rep Giffords was wrong about her is the height of hate. These fruitcakes never see anything wrong with themselves or their actions. These so-called Tea Party nuts are on the radical fringe of America and eventually, they will go away in name only but these same people will never go away. The embody bigotry and hate and extremism.

Posted by: pkbishop1 | January 12, 2011 11:04 AM | Report abuse

My question to Palin is this: If the crosshairs you had on your website defied their meanings (not a symbol of harm); then why did you have them removed?

Posted by: BasicInstinct | January 12, 2011 10:35 AM | Report abuse

"It is in the hour when our values are challenged that we must remain resolved to protect those values," Palin said.
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What are you saying Palin? That you have the right to put hit lists on the internet so some deranged unstable person will see them and go and do your dirty work. No matter how many times you deny it this is conspiracy to commit murder and you should be in jail.

Posted by: SanchosR | January 12, 2011 10:28 AM | Report abuse

"It is in the hour when our values are challenged that we must remain resolved to protect those values," Palin said.
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What are you saying Palin? That you have the right to put hit lists on the internet so some deranged unstable person will see them and go and do your dirty work. No matter how many times you deny it this is conspiracy to commit murder and you should be in jail.

Posted by: SanchosR | January 12, 2011 10:21 AM | Report abuse

I can't believe they have not arrested Palin yet!!! They let murders walk free!!!

Posted by: SanchosR | January 12, 2011 10:13 AM | Report abuse

lonquest:
"It doesn't really matter whether or not she's directly responsible for this particular attack....She's not getting off the hook for this until she backs off, and apologizes to the American people for poisoning our politics with her lies."

I suppose it's not fair, lonquest, to pick one of your statements out of the many zany posts by other left-wingers on here, but I had to use at least one....and leftists like yourself and AMviennaVA sure provided no shortage of ignorant ramblings to choose from.

So let me get this straight: you are going to hold Sarah Palin personally responsible for the shooting in Tuscon, even though there is absolutely zero evidence that the shooter Loughner ever supported Palin, the Tea Party, or any Republican for that matter. No evidence that he ever saw her 'crosshairs' map. No evidence that Loughner ever listened to Rush, Beck, or watched Fox News. None.

Furthermore, whatever evidence we do have shows Loughner had more stances in line with being a left-winger (like being a 9/11 truther) than any views he had putting him in the right-wing camp (although to be clear, he's solidly in the 'insane' camp, with no claims by him to any singular political viewpoint).

So keep trying to politicize this tragedy and smear your opponents with it's blame, no evidence warranting such blame notwithstanding. It will only help to further illustrate to the fair-minded in the middle just how idiotic you and most left-wing posters on here are.

Posted by: dbw1 | January 12, 2011 10:08 AM | Report abuse

You got to love it, just read the post on this site, both from the left and right. Sure you all will be responsible for the next attack using your twisted logic. The only person responsible it the twist person who pulls the trigger. Where was his parents, law enforcement, neighbors, and the school? These people had interacted with him and it sounds like most knew something was very wrong with him.

Posted by: tateofpa | January 12, 2011 10:07 AM | Report abuse

Of course Palin releases this 8 minute webcam of herself whining on the day of the memorial. It's all about her. Does she ever freakin' know when to zip it?

Posted by: Sandydayl | January 12, 2011 10:03 AM | Report abuse

Rhetoric designed to cause people to despise those whom you oppose is Palin’s stock in trade. By itself, this is common and acceptable. Frankly, she is good at it.

Unfortunately, she does not stop there. She chooses to add allusions to violence and joins her rhetoric with Angle’s call for Second Amendment Remedies and the Tea Party’s “if ballots won’t do it, bullets will” rhetoric. The result is effectively a call to arms. These people are inciting violence, whether or not that is their primary goal.

Posted by: Provincial | January 12, 2011 9:37 AM | Report abuse

pauldia @ January 12, 2011 8:31 AM: Palin is a quitter and a classic bully. She uses her position and notoriety to attack people, and then hides when problems arise. Oh, by the way, she did not even complete 1 term as governor.

As I said: a bully and a quitter.

Posted by: AMviennaVA | January 12, 2011 9:25 AM | Report abuse

Sarah Palin is dragging America's progress back decades. Sarah Palin is not an advocate for Democracy, she cares about power at any cost.

She should apologize for playing a part in the rhetoric and violence mongering she has advocated in the past.

Sarah Palin's language fueled an unstable mind to murder a congresswoman and spray bullets wildly at anyone nearby. It is a hate crime plain and simple.

There are consequences for inciting violence, this isn't rocket science, the consequences are violence.

Posted by: ptyrrell1 | January 12, 2011 9:00 AM | Report abuse

Sarah Palin is dragging America's progress back decades. Sarah Palin is not an advocate for Democracy, she cares about power at any cost.

She should apologize for playing a part in the rhetoric and violence mongering she has advocated in the past.

Sarah Palin's language fueled an unstable mind to murder a congresswoman and spray bullets wildly at anyone nearby. It is a hate crime plain and simple.

There are consequences for inciting violence, this isn't rocket science, the consequences are violence.

Posted by: ptyrrell1 | January 12, 2011 8:59 AM | Report abuse

The grizzly sow whines like a beaten dog when somebody gets caught doing what she told people to do.

It doesn't really matter whether or not she's directly responsible for this particular attack. What matters is that she's responsible for a lot of the extremely negative tone of our political debate, and that she gives her permission to the people gullible enough to listen to her to do things like this.

She's not getting off the hook for this until she backs off, and apologizes to the American people for poisoning our politics with her lies.

No matter what she thinks of the current US government, the ends do NOT justify the means, and her decision to practice ruthless, mendacious, demagoguery for the purpose of undermining the government of the United States simply cannot be justified, even if we accept that this act of political violence was not the direct result of her behavior.

The fact that she's lying about her openly stated intent to place a bulls-eye on Congresswoman Giffords, and other political figures, only makes her behavior the more reprehensible.

Posted by: lonquest | January 12, 2011 8:53 AM | Report abuse

This is just silly if people were inform, they would know that it was not their fault, but most news source don't inform they use this as a way to push an agenda. If the WP, NT and LT would do the job of reporting people could be inform.

Posted by: tateofpa | January 12, 2011 8:46 AM | Report abuse

Of course Palin, Angle and others who use inflammatory language to get people riled up now want to shift the conversation away from their role in creating a hostile political environment where "2nd Amendment solutions" appeal to the fringe. You would do the same, if you knew that some of the blame will land on their doorstep.

A bit ironic, given that Palin and her ilk normally specialize in the blame game ... not that it's ever THEIR fault, of course!

Posted by: tomguy1 | January 12, 2011 8:45 AM | Report abuse

I love it, They Palin, Angle and the likes, GLOAT on their right to "free speech" to incite what now appears to result in gun violence (as it has more than a few times in the past two years), but condemn others thoughtful analysis of the consequences of that abuse and in so doing exercise "free speech to highlight the right's poisoning of the political well and subversion of democratic process, becarse it utimately blames S Palin, Angle, and others.
We as a country know the truth here, and come election time, those same self righteous abusers of constitutional rights will face the fact that they are unelectable. Bring it on, the more they say, the more we know the truth!

Posted by: whenwillthisnightmareend | January 12, 2011 8:44 AM | Report abuse

This judgemental b - t - c - h has one heckuva nerve talking about "values" after the life SHE has lived! She loves guns, gun metaphors, crosshairs, killing animals and is proud of it! She was knocked up when she married, and exploited her knocked up daughter and Down's Syndrome son! If she wants to be another "Annie Oakley".... she needs to get out of politics.

She allowed an interview during the presidential election where she sat on a couch made from the skin of a polar bear. The head and feet were all there....and on the walls of her parent's home were animals,animal parts, and birds, and bird parts, and fish, and fish parts, all mounted! Imagine feeling comfortable in a home filled with dead animals, birds and fish! Palin LOVED shooting wolves from a plane! She was recently shown having an elk in her crosshairs, and she shot and killed it!

If Palin is upset now, let her for ONCE give a press conference, LIVE, and hash it out there, instead of hiding behind Facebook, Twitter and Glen Beck! What a coward you are Palin. You rock everyone's boat with your Mama Grizzly attitude and gun metaphors then wonder why you are criticized.

Sarah... you have beauty and charisma, but you lack two very important things to be loved and respected and qualified for the Oval Office...... INTELLIGENCE AND CLASS!

Posted by: cashmere1 | January 12, 2011 8:42 AM | Report abuse

"When we talk about our human suffering, it brings out our compassionate tendencies. But when we talk about our opinions, about what I think and what you think about politics and religion, then we can get into wars."

Posted by: ohwell1 | January 12, 2011 8:39 AM | Report abuse

Sharron Angle should explain what she meant by '2nd amendment remedies'. That seems pretty clear and unambiguous to me. The shooter probably had no idea she made that statement, but it was an incredibly inappropriate and provocative thing to say for someone running for public office.

Posted by: randysbailin | January 12, 2011 8:37 AM | Report abuse

Palins Reaction:

We have always been this way. So get over it.

Wrong. We are better than our past! We know better than to continue in the mindset of our past. OMG

Posted by: marvel777us | January 12, 2011 8:33 AM | Report abuse

Palin's use of the phrase "blood libel" is extremely odd. I wonder if she even knows what that term refers to historically--the crazy medieval myth that Jews murdered Christian children and mixed their blood into Passover matzoh. I'd like to know where someone who doesn't exactly strike me as a scholar of the Middle Ages learned that phrase.

Posted by: jhpurdy | January 12, 2011 8:32 AM | Report abuse

Palin and Angle are simple nut cases. The best thing to do with these two is place them on a watch list.

Posted by: Maddogg | January 12, 2011 8:32 AM | Report abuse

Excellent and Statesmanlike response by Sarah Palin. This woman has been demonized and attacked by those who fear her for her resonance and blunt truthfulness. Frankly the Left fear her, not because they think she could be elected President, but rather she puts the false flag of racial gender and group identity politics to the test of sunshine and thereby exposes the Democratic fraud to the world. The drivel we are about to hear from our "vote present" Chief Executive will be teleprompter babble calculated to raise poll numbers. Ms. Palin speaks from bedrock beliefs and these truths are "self-evident". The media has been shown to be empty, partisan, calculating and void. From "Journolist", to PBS, to incestuous umbilical Democratic sustenance at the public trough, (Immelt & GE) our media now is nothing more than a snake oil pitchman or a Boardwalk shill for a game of chance. Sarah Palin has more character, fight, and backbone in her rather pretty derriere than the entirety of fraud known as the MSM!

Posted by: pauldia | January 12, 2011 8:31 AM | Report abuse

I bet that: a) she doesn't have a rat's a$$ idea what blood libel was/is; and b) she didn't pray over this.

Posted by: bucinka8 | January 12, 2011 8:29 AM | Report abuse

So, just what did Angle mean when she talked of 2nd amendment solutions? For that matter, what did Palin mean with hre reload talk, and putting districts in the cross-hairs? Words have consequences. I fear those who voted for Angle, and admire Palin for that matter. They are at best irresponsible. They are also cowards.

In other words, their behavior is typical of the bully. Not just Angle and Palin, but those who support, encourage, or immitate them as well.

Posted by: AMviennaVA | January 12, 2011 8:08 AM | Report abuse

Here is a very interesting campaign ad made by the Democrats and directed against Rep. Hayworth:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=epdJWNA65oY&feature=youtu.be

The entire ad features Rep. Hayworth framed in a sniper's scope. The reticule is most clearly visible especially around 9-10 seconds into the film.

I want to make it very clear that I am not citing this in an attempt to justify Palin's use of similar symbolism. I truly believe that in BOTH cases it is irresponsible and that this sort of base emotional appeal hurts us ALL by degrading public discourse and turning us from fellow citizens who may have differing opinions into "enemies". The point here is that there is MORE than enough blame to go around and that unless we ALL start thinking about what we say to one another and about one another, things will not improve.

Palin really IS one of the worst offenders in this. But, again, there is more than enough blame to go around and unless we ALL start trying to be respectful of one another, it won't get any better because we'll just be dragged right back into the mud by those who refuse to climb out of it.

PS. Out of curiousity, if someone were to attack Rep. Hayworth, would the people who are blaming Palin's cross-hairs for the Tuscon atrocity hold THAT ad accountable?

Posted by: andrew23boyle | January 12, 2011 3:58 AM | Report abuse

Here is a very interesting campaign ad made by the Democrats and directed against Rep. Hayworth:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=epdJWNA65oY&feature=youtu.be

The entire ad features Rep. Hayworth framed in a sniper's scope. The reticule is most clearly visible especially around 9-10 seconds into the film.

I want to make it very clear that I am not citing this in an attempt to justify Palin's use of similar symbolism. I truly believe that in BOTH cases it is irresponsible and that this sort of base emotional appeal hurts us ALL by degrading public discourse and turning us from fellow citizens who may have differing opinions into "enemies". The point here is that there is MORE than enough blame to go around and that unless we ALL start thinking about what we say to one another and about one another, things will not improve.

Palin really IS one of the worst offenders in this. But, again, there is more than enough blame to go around and unless we ALL start trying to be respectful of one another, it won't get any better because we'll just be dragged right back into the mud by those who refuse to climb out of it.

PS. Out of curiousity, if someone were to attack Rep. Hayworth, would the people who are blaming Palin's cross-hairs for the Tuscon atrocity hold THAT ad accountable?

Posted by: andrew23boyle | January 12, 2011 3:58 AM | Report abuse

The Democrats are claiming that Republicans use divisive, hysterical and hate-filled rhetoric.

The Republicans are claiming that Democrats use divisive, hysterical and hate-filled rhetoric.

It's nice to finally see some honesty in politics.

Posted by: andrew23boyle | January 12, 2011 3:45 AM | Report abuse

So, Gov. Pawlenty wouldn't have used crosshairs on a map as an icon targeting congressional districts. Interesting. I wonder if political campaigns will take his comment to heart. I'm sure that no one would EVER say that a candidate is "targeted" for defeat at the polls. I would be shocked, appalled, and horrified if that happened! That would be inciting violence. Oh, dear!

Posted by: allamer1 | January 11, 2011 7:39 PM | Report abuse

I say blame John McCain. He's the one who unleashed that rogue Palin feline on us. Palin was safely tucked away in Alaska, isolated from the rest of America, and the Alaskans liked her because they knew where she was at all times. So it was mutual appreciation that she was up there. Now look what's she done. I read that she purchased a home in Arizona so maybe getting rid of this Congresswoman was in her plans. She's trying to get settle in a state that has a large Hispanic population & her intent will be to get rid of them. I'm telling you this nut needs a straight jacket. She probably has her people checking to see if Daniel Hernandez' family is legal or not, since he was very instrumental in saving the Congresswoman's life. You better watch her carefully Arizona; she's going to ruin your state. Alaska wants her to go. Girl, don't even think about coming to PG County...hahahahahaha. Our politicians may steal from the people they've sworn to uphold & look out for, but they don't kill each other. That type of stuff is left to other low life in the county. lol

Posted by: ahrj | January 11, 2011 7:01 PM | Report abuse

I say blame John McCain. He's the one who unleashed that rogue Palin feline on us. Palin was safely tucked away in Alaska, isolated from the rest of America, and the Alaskans liked her because they knew where she was at all times. So it was mutual appreciation that she was up there. Now look what's she done. I read that she purchased a home in Arizona so maybe getting rid of this Congresswoman was in her plans. She's trying to get settle in a state that has a large Hispanic population & her intent will be to get rid of them. I'm telling you this nut needs a straight jacket. She probably has her people checking to see if Daniel Hernandez' family is legal or not, since he was very instrumental in saving the Congressman's life. You better watch her carefully Arizona; she's going to ruin your state.

Posted by: ahrj | January 11, 2011 6:56 PM | Report abuse

A middle finger here....a cross-hair there! And a message to load, unload and reload!

And a daughter implanted in the state just to be sure!

The Trailer Trash of America can be proud that there is something more trashy out there!

Posted by: kishorgala | January 11, 2011 4:01 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: B-rod | January 11, 2011 12:40 PM
"Pawlenty just destroyed any chance of winning the GOP nomination for dissing Saint Sarah. He'll be hounded out of the GOP as a RINO. You watch. The GOP ideology must be pure and no one who crosses Saint Sarah can go on to GOP heaven."


Pawlenty never had a chance in the first place.
He got caught up in the anti-tax fervor and watched as I-35 bridge collapsed killing 13 people.

Pawlenty, Thune, Santorum all need to find full time jobs.

Posted by: knjincvc | January 11, 2011 3:24 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: B-rod | January 11, 2011 12:40 PM
"Pawlenty just destroyed any chance of winning the GOP nomination for dissing Saint Sarah. He'll be hounded out of the GOP as a RINO. You watch. The GOP ideology must be pure and no one who crosses Saint Sarah can go on to GOP heaven."


Pawlenty never had a chance in the first place.
He got caught up in the anti-tax fervor and watched as I-35 bridge collapsed killing 13 people.

Pawlenty, Thune, Santorum all need to find full time jobs.

Posted by: knjincvc | January 11, 2011 3:22 PM | Report abuse

drainyou:
"One thing the Right Wing Lunatic Fringe is good at is refusing to accept any responsibility for the consequences of their murderous hate talk...."

Can you point me to where you found the evidence that Loughner listened to right-wing radio, went to Tea Party rallies, or supported Republican candidates for office? I have looked all over the place, and so far can't find any....

In the meantime, can you also tell me what you think of Obama, Chris Matthews, and Olberman using the 'murderous' speech I cited below?

Posted by: dbw1 | January 11, 2011 3:10 PM | Report abuse

Up until the shooting it was just backbench republicans making comments about Palin as a possible 2012 candidate, Pawlenty took the opportunity to "Jab" Palin so now the rest will join in to make sure she doesn't run in 2012.

So will Bachmann step-in to fill the gap?

Posted by: knjincvc | January 11, 2011 3:07 PM | Report abuse

Sarah Palin is too stupid to be President. For her to surround herself with individuals that said the crosshairs represented a surveyor's site rather than a gunsite, after Palin made the reload comment is beyond stupid. Instead of apologizing to everyone, Palin's folks are pointing out how really stupid the woman is.

Posted by: almelbe | January 11, 2011 1:34 PM | Report abuse

One would hope that there would be a few days given over to mourning for the dead and public good wishes for the full recovery of the injured in the aftermath of the Tucson shooting this morning. But since we live in a Twitter and Facebook and Instant Messaging world, such hope no longer gets a chance. Efforts to set the narrative are already fully under way within the extremist right.


The Right Wing Noise Machine (Faux News, AM Hate Radio etc) whose violent, eliminationist rhetoric has polluted the air waves and bled into other corporate mainsteam media outlets the past couple of decades, ramping itself up a little more each year, especially with the arrival of an African American in the White House, are, of course, denying that the shootings of a Congresswoman, a judge, a child and bystanders on a street corner in Arizona have anything to do with their savage words.


No surprise. One thing the Right Wing Lunatic Fringe is good at is refusing to accept any responsibility for the consequences of their murderous hate talk, whether it's Timothy McVeigh blowing up a federal building or Scott Roeder assassinating a doctor etc.

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Posted by: DrainYou | January 11, 2011 12:55 PM | Report abuse

It is clear that the one thing that these sick people have in common is a hatred of government; a idea inflammed by the republican party and it's supporters.

Posted by: ILuvUS | January 11, 2011 12:45 PM | Report abuse

Pawlenty just destroyed any chance of winning the GOP nomination for dissing Saint Sarah. He'll be hounded out of the GOP as a RINO. You watch. The GOP ideology must be pure and no one who crosses Saint Sarah can go on to GOP heaven.

Posted by: B-rod | January 11, 2011 12:40 PM | Report abuse

This is about guns now, and not about our demagogue narcissist Sarah...

Why does a mentally ill sociopath LEGALLY have a semi-automatic gun?

Posted by: vigor | January 11, 2011 12:23 PM | Report abuse

"We never ever, ever intended it to be gun sights. ... We never imagined, it never occurred to us that anybody would consider it violent," Mansour said."

Well I think they call that negligence, or maybe even just plain stupid.

They put gun sites all over a map, and then try to deny they're gun sites.

If you buy that I've got a bridge in Brooklyn I'd like to sell you.

Lie and deny Sarah.


Posted by: lindalovejones | January 11, 2011 12:16 PM | Report abuse

What a sad day for America, when an incident like the one in Arizona leads to Republicans criticizing Republicans.

Posted by: daweeni | January 11, 2011 12:13 PM | Report abuse


TO: hallj1 who wrote: "Right-wingers across the country praying he’s not one of them."

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

They're the ones with the guns, and they're the ones who've been making the threats.

Republicans can paint this anyway they want to, but it's safe to assume that if someone tries to kill a politican, they are politically motivated.


Posted by: lindalovejones | January 11, 2011 12:09 PM | Report abuse

TO: hallj1 who wrote: "Right-wingers across the country praying he’s not one of them."

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

They're the ones with the guns, and they're the ones who've been making the threats.

Republicans can paint this anyway they want to, but it's safe to assume that if someone tries to kill a politican, they are politically motivated.


Posted by: lindalovejones | January 11, 2011 12:08 PM | Report abuse

Do you remember a photo in one of the MAM's of a man, participating in one of those hate enticing Palin's mass gatherings, during Obama campaign, carrying a placard "no Obama,no socialism" and shouting kill him?...! Why is now Palin being treated with white gloves?!

Posted by: rafael1 | January 11, 2011 12:05 PM | Report abuse


Republicans can paint this anyway they want to, but it's safe to assume that if someone tries to kill a politican, they are usually politically motivated.


Posted by: lindalovejones | January 11, 2011 12:05 PM | Report abuse

Isnt' it just like Republicans to put cross hairs on a map, like a shooting target, then, when someones goes out and shoots that person, here comes the Republican "lie and deny" tactics.

As for Sarah "The Bimbo" Palin, her refusal to take any responsibility whatsoever makes her look even dumber than she did before.

Republicans can paint this anyway they want to, but it's safe to assume that if someone tries to kill a politican, they are usually politically motivated.


Posted by: lindalovejones | January 11, 2011 12:01 PM | Report abuse

Pawlenty is talking like a RINO now, true Republicans know there is no place in the GOP for reason, logic or mental stability!

Posted by: squirebass | January 11, 2011 11:58 AM | Report abuse

FoundingMother:
"The Republican rhetoric.....affects those that are already paranoid and less healthy in the population."

Obama referred to bringing guns to a fight with knife-wielding Republicans.

Chris Matthews pondered someone blowing Rush Limbaugh's head off.

Someone on msnbc (I believe Keith Olberman, but don't quote me) proposed ripping Dick Cheney's heart out of his chest and playing football with it.

Do you believe Democrats talking in graphic and violent ways is as equally responsible for sending the "paranoid and less healthy" over the edge? Or is it a miracle of the science of mental health that only the words of Republicans cause this to happen?

Posted by: dbw1 | January 11, 2011 11:55 AM | Report abuse

knjincvc:
"I don’t believe Giffords was brandishing a knife nor has she ever brought a knife to a town hall type meeting..sooo why would Loughner attack Giffords and not Obama?"

That's a great question. Maybe he personified Obama in Giffords since she was a Democrat and lived nearer to him? But then again he had the gun, so he was presenting himself as Obama in this scenario....so maybe he thought Giffords represented Sarah Palin since she was female, and Loughner was really heeding Obama's call to defeat Palin and conservatives?

In any case, I assume you have evidence then that Loughner saw the 'crosshairs' map that was on Palin's website, and this is what alerted him to the existence of Giffords and made this deranged individual decide to take his anger up a notch?

I imagine if you are interested in facts even a little bit, you will read enough to learn that Loughner was obsessed with Giffords as far back as 2007...a full year before you or I ever heard of Sarah Palin. And there is no evidence....none, mind you....that Loughner ever supported the Tea Party, Sarah Palin, or saw her 'crosshairs' map.

But since that doesn't stop left-wingers from presuming that Sarah Palin MUST have somehow been the cause for Loughner's rage, I merely propose that it would just have likely been Obama's own graphic and violent imagery that sent Loughner over the edge. There's just as much proof that Obama's "we bring a gun" quote caused Loughner's actions, as there is proof that Palin's crosshairs map did.

Posted by: dbw1 | January 11, 2011 11:47 AM | Report abuse

The Republican rhetoric of taking the country back, second amendment solutions, putting opponents in gun cross hairs, reloading, presenting the President as foreign, illegitimate and Muslim, stating over and over that citizens' rights are being stolen by the government, that the constitution is being trampled by Obama, that gun rights are at risk, that Democrats are Nazis/Communists that are taking over the nation by force certainly affects those that are already paranoid and less healthy in the population.

It puts healthy, ordinary, uninformed citizens on a sense of constant alert. It would almost make anyone that believes the Republicans more paranoid, angry and militant. It would be the patriotic thing to do to take action if the nation was at such terrible risk from Democrats and President Obama. Some citizens have attacked and threatened elected officials and their offices.

This is not just a call to go peacefully to the polls and make a choice.

Posted by: FoundingMother | January 11, 2011 11:46 AM | Report abuse

Scapegoating Palin who has done nothing wrong and has spoken out against violence is a disgusting ploy of the left.
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But she's a better target and a definite threat to the dems....knock her off and that makes the Tea Party, the next target, and made easier by the removal of Palin!

Posted by: erodrik | January 11, 2011 11:43 AM | Report abuse

Another example of republicans eating their own......in STARK contrast, no matter what a democrat says, they ALL fall in line behind ALL horrible claims dems make and justify those claims by saying "the repubs made me do it!" and the repubs whine ~*~we're sorry~*~. And so it goes!

Posted by: erodrik | January 11, 2011 11:37 AM | Report abuse

Another example of republicans eating their own......in STARK contrast, no matter what a democrat says, they ALL fall in line behind ALL horrible claims dems make and justify those claims by saying "the repubs made me do it!" and the repubs whine ~*~we're sorry~*~. And so it goes!

Posted by: erodrik | January 11, 2011 11:36 AM | Report abuse

The outrage should go to Glenn Beck regarding his comments following the minute of silence yesterday. The guy has no inherent decency. I would like to suggest that the ONE photo op that will be forever imprinted on the political brain is the former President standing beneath the banner "Mission Accomplished." This has to be the photo op of all photo ops.

For Glenn beck, it is just another case of the pot calling the kettle black.

Pawlenty shows an inherent weakness in the face of public scrutiny.

Posted by: EarlC | January 11, 2011 11:30 AM | Report abuse

Scapegoating Palin who has done nothing wrong and has spoken out against violence is a disgusting ploy of the left. Glenn Beck praised the Congresswoman for her stand on immigration even though she is a Democrats. That is a matter of record and recorded on video. No one caused this tragedy but the deranged man himself. We can try to blame his parents, the schools, his classmates but it all boils down to his actions. Virginia Tech has already been forgotten by the idiots of the left. John Lennon and RFK and Martin Luther King and JFK and on and on.

Think what would have happened to an entire people when scapegoating was the passion. Here read some history and think!

The campaign against the Jews stopped for a short duration during the Berlin Olympics - but once the overseas press had gone, it started up again. It reached a pre-war peak in 1938 with Krystalnacht - The Night of the Broken Glass.

In November 1938, a Nazi 'diplomat' was shot dead by a Jew in Paris. Hitler ordered a seven day campaign of terror against the Jews in Germany to be organised by Himmler and the SS. On the 10th November, the campaign started. 10,000 shops owned by Jews were destroyed and their contents stolen. Homes and synagogues were set on fire and left to burn. The fire brigades showed their loyalty to Hitler by assuming that the buildings would burn down anyway, so why try to prevent it? A huge amount of damage was done to Jewish property but the Jewish community was ordered to pay a one billion mark fine to pay for the eventual clear-up. Jews were forced to scrub the streets clean.

Posted by: LETFREEDOMRING2 | January 11, 2011 11:26 AM | Report abuse

Scapegoating Palin who has done nothing wrong and has spoken out against violence is a disgusting ploy of the left. Glenn Beck praised the Congresswoman for her stand on immigration even though she is a Democrats. That is a matter of record and recorded on video. No one caused this tragedy but the deranged man himself. We can try to blame his parents, the schools, his classmates but it all boils down to his actions. Virginia Tech has already been forgotten by the idiots of the left. John Lennon and RFK and Martin Luther King and JFK and on and on.

Think what would have happened to an entire people when scapegoating was the passion. Here read some history and think!

The campaign against the Jews stopped for a short duration during the Berlin Olympics - but once the overseas press had gone, it started up again. It reached a pre-war peak in 1938 with Krystalnacht - The Night of the Broken Glass.

In November 1938, a Nazi 'diplomat' was shot dead by a Jew in Paris. Hitler ordered a seven day campaign of terror against the Jews in Germany to be organised by Himmler and the SS. On the 10th November, the campaign started. 10,000 shops owned by Jews were destroyed and their contents stolen. Homes and synagogues were set on fire and left to burn. The fire brigades showed their loyalty to Hitler by assuming that the buildings would burn down anyway, so why try to prevent it? A huge amount of damage was done to Jewish property but the Jewish community was ordered to pay a one billion mark fine to pay for the eventual clear-up. Jews were forced to scrub the streets clean.

Posted by: LETFREEDOMRING2 | January 11, 2011 11:25 AM | Report abuse

“A Democratic lawmaker plans to introduce legislation that would make it a federal crime to use language or images that could be interpreted as inciting violence toward members of Congress or federal officials.”

So no more morphing a picture of a political figure into Hitler.


Posted by: dbw1 | January 11, 2011 10:47 AM
“Frankly, I think it's clearly obvious that the blame for Loughner's deranged action should be placed squarely on the shoulders of our President:
“If they bring a knife to the fight, we bring a gun,” Obama said in Philadelphia last night. “Because from what I understand, folks in Philly like a good brawl."
Obviously Loughner must have believed Obama supported the notion of settling disagreements with knives and guns, right?”

Hummm … I don’t believe Giffords was brandishing a knife nor has she ever brought a knife to a town hall type meeting..sooo why would Loughner attack Giffords and not Obama?

Posted by: knjincvc | January 11, 2011 11:25 AM | Report abuse

Pawlenty was just being opportunistic - did he ever call Palin out before for violent metaphors? But in any event, Palin is done.

Posted by: hitpoints | January 11, 2011 11:06 AM | Report abuse

"Pawlenty jabs at Palin"

Was it really necessary to use violent imagery in the headline? There are lots of other words you could have used such as "chides" or "criticizes" but it was really necessary to use "jabs", huh.

No one even in the midst of all of this thought to maybe tone it down a little?

Posted by: DatMel | January 11, 2011 10:57 AM | Report abuse

Please fix the typo ("Sargeant") on the front page of this section. TIA!

Posted by: bucinka8 | January 11, 2011 10:55 AM | Report abuse

Please fix the typo ("Sargeant") on the front page of this section. TIA!

Posted by: bucinka8 | January 11, 2011 10:53 AM | Report abuse

No, I don't think Palin and her crosshair map and gun rhetoric are responsible for the massacre in Tucson, but I sure am tired of this silly, extremely narcissistic woman.

Posted by: Sandydayl | January 11, 2011 10:51 AM | Report abuse

angie12106:

Frankly, I think it's clearly obvious that the blame for Loughner's deranged action should be placed squarely on the shoulders of our President:

“If they bring a knife to the fight, we bring a gun,” Obama said in Philadelphia last night. “Because from what I understand, folks in Philly like a good brawl."

Obviously Loughner must have believed Obama supported the notion of settling disagreements with knives and guns, right?

I'm not bothered at all by the lack of any evidence that Loughner ever heard or saw this quote by Obama. Just the mere fact he said it should be enough to conclude that Obama created the 'violent culture' that surrounded this shooter and made him think it was ok to take out his frustrations by shooting people.

Yours,
A conservative applying left-wing logic

Posted by: dbw1 | January 11, 2011 10:47 AM | Report abuse

More politicians and federal officials are shot and killed in America than any other country in the world.
The NRA RULES!

Posted by: angie12106 | January 11, 2011 9:28 AM | Report abuse

RobbieS wrote>>>will the Left stop saying that it is Sarah Palin's fault?

Of the 20 Federal Democrats that Palin targeted on her hit-list - 10 had their offices vandalized, windows shot out and received death threats, including Giffords.

Democrats are thinking of the rhetoric used in future elections - are you?
Or do you support the violent rhetoric Republicans used in the 2010 midterms?

Posted by: angie12106 | January 11, 2011 9:23 AM | Report abuse

My two cents: Now that it has been ascertained that the killler is an anarchist looney, will the Left stop saying that it is Sarah Palin's fault? Answer: Now, she was a major player during the last campaign, and the outrage from the left is just a way of taking revenge on her.

Posted by: RobbyS | January 11, 2011 1:13 AM | Report abuse

I will be very brief in my observations about the massacre in Tuscon. First I lived in Tucson for several years and feel very sad about this terrible event. Second, I just don't understand why the NRA, Sarah Palin and many others believe that Americans should carry guns. Most other countries regulate gun ownership but the U.S. seems to think that guns are not dangerous. This country has a disturbing record of gun violence and now of violent political rhetoric. We should all be concerned about preserving safety in gun ownership and civility in the public sphere for the well being of this country.

Posted by: julliette | January 10, 2011 11:56 PM | Report abuse

livefreeordie1776 "Revolution is a bloody business" post and Obama/Ayers correlation plot thickens and congeals. The information age and a free internet pose an existential threat to the left's former stronghold over mass media and control of propaganda. No wonder they seize this and every opportunity to exploit tragedy to reverse gains in journalistic liberty.

"Monday, January 10, 2011
WND
Bill Ayers, communist provided Arizona shooter's curriculum?
High school part of learning community funded jointly by Obama and domestic terrorist
Posted: January 10, 2011

By Aaron Klein

Bill Ayers Jared Lee Loughner, the suspected gunman in Saturday's Arizona shooting, attended a high school that is part of a network in which teachers are trained and provided resources by a liberal group founded by Weatherman terrorist Bill Ayers and funded by President Obama, WND has learned.

The group, Small Schools Workshop, has been led by a former top communist activist who is an associate of Ayers.

Obama provided the group with funds in the 1990s when he worked at an education reform group alongside Ayers.

Loughner attended Mountain View High School, which is part of Arizona's Morana Unified School District.

Since 2003, Mountain View has been part of what is known as the Smaller Learning Community, a network of schools that have been restructured to create a more personalized learning environment where students often have the same teachers and fellow students from grade to grade.

Mountain View was part of the Smaller Learning Communities throughout Loughner's entire attendance there, from 9th grade until he withdrew without graduating before his senior year.

The high school received grants to research the concepts of Smaller Learning Communities and work to implement them.

Ayers himself is considered one of the fathers of the Smaller Learning Communities, often providing lectures to schools on the subject. For example, a 2001 lecture at Lewis & Clark College featured Ayers at a workshop entitled, "A Simple Justice: Building Smaller Learning Communities to Know Our Youth."

Smaller Learning Communities had its conceptual genesis in 1991, when Ayers founded a group, Small Schools Workshop, which provides training and resources to teach schools on how to implement the Smaller Learning Communities.

Small Schools Workshop is a recommended agent for how to implement smaller schools curriculum, including at Loughner's alma mater, Mountain View.

Ayers' Small Schools Workshop has the stated goal of providing support for teachers who want to create smaller learning environments. Ayers reportedly recruited a radical activist, Mike Klonsky, to head the Workshop. Klonsky still serves as director.

The Small School Workshop originally was associated with the University of Illinois in Chicago, where Klonsky previously taught in the education department alongside Ayers, who retired from the university last year..."

Posted by: LiveFreeOrDie1776 | January 10, 2011 6:51 PM | Report abuse

livefreeordie1776 "Revolution is a bloody business" post and Obama/Ayers correlation plot thickens and congeals. The information age and a free internet pose an existential threat to the left's former stronghold over mass media and control of propaganda. No wonder they seize this and every opportunity to exploit tragedy to reverse gains in journalistic liberty.

"Monday, January 10, 2011
WND
Bill Ayers, communist provided Arizona shooter's curriculum?
High school part of learning community funded jointly by Obama and domestic terrorist
Posted: January 10, 2011

By Aaron Klein

WorldNetDaily

Bill Ayers
Jared Lee Loughner, the suspected gunman in Saturday's Arizona shooting, attended a high school that is part of a network in which teachers are trained and provided resources by a liberal group founded by Weatherman terrorist Bill Ayers and funded by President Obama, WND has learned.

The group, Small Schools Workshop, has been led by a former top communist activist who is an associate of Ayers.

Obama provided the group with funds in the 1990s when he worked at an education reform group alongside Ayers.

Loughner attended Mountain View High School, which is part of Arizona's Morana Unified School District.

Since 2003, Mountain View has been part of what is known as the Smaller Learning Community, a network of schools that have been restructured to create a more personalized learning environment where students often have the same teachers and fellow students from grade to grade.

Mountain View was part of the Smaller Learning Communities throughout Loughner's entire attendance there, from 9th grade until he withdrew without graduating before his senior year.

The high school received grants to research the concepts of Smaller Learning Communities and work to implement them.

Ayers himself is considered one of the fathers of the Smaller Learning Communities, often providing lectures to schools on the subject. For example, a 2001 lecture at Lewis & Clark College featured Ayers at a workshop entitled, "A Simple Justice: Building Smaller Learning Communities to Know Our Youth."

Smaller Learning Communities had its conceptual genesis in 1991, when Ayers founded a group, Small Schools Workshop, which provides training and resources to teach schools on how to implement the Smaller Learning Communities.

Small Schools Workshop is a recommended agent for how to implement smaller schools curriculum, including at Loughner's alma mater, Mountain View.

Ayers' Small Schools Workshop has the stated goal of providing support for teachers who want to create smaller learning environments. Ayers reportedly recruited a radical activist, Mike Klonsky, to head the Workshop. Klonsky still serves as director.

The Small School Workshop originally was associated with the University of Illinois in Chicago, where Klonsky previously taught in the education department alongside Ayers, who retired from the university last year..."

Posted by: LiveFreeOrDie1776 | January 10, 2011 6:49 PM | Report abuse

Secretary of Education Arne Duncan released a statement Monday morning expressing grief over the Tucson shootings and laying part of the blame on "a society that too often shirks responsibility for our collective safety."

What? Duncan was the idiot who was advised not to put charter schools over gang boundary lines. He did anyway, and as a result school violence rose and Derrion Albert was killed.

He also wanted to take kids with physical and/or cognitive disabilities out of their safe school on the North side of Chicago and put them back in their gang ridden schools.

Who is he to talk?

Posted by: jlp19 | January 10, 2011 6:13 PM | Report abuse

The right has always created the atmosphere for violence against Democrats. It's their M.O. as a political movement.


The angry right did it to JFK, they did it to Bill Clinton (and were able to get Okla City out of it) and they're going hog wild right now against Pres Obama.


And just like they always do (see Rep Giffords), if one of the crazies actually does do something to Pres Obama they'll proclaim their innocence and act outraged that anyone would even dare to point the finger at them (see Beck, Glenn, Limbaugh, Rush and O'Reilly, Bill etc).

.

Posted by: DrainYou | January 10, 2011 4:15 PM | Report abuse

@ vinconco - You must be suffering from short term memory loss if you think that the "left" wanted to kill George Bush. Impeach, yes. Kill, no. Same with Cheney and the rest responsible for getting us into a second war when we needed to fight the first, for violating the rights of Americans and behavior that Americans are not supposed to do and the myriad of other crimes. But I can guarantee that the vicious and violent rhetoric that has been coming out has come from the right and the far right hot air bags that soil our airwaves daily. The want-to-be & failed politician that put cross hairs on members of Congress and regularly refers to shooting and uses gun terminology. (Don't retreat- reload. 18 down, 2 to go. And much more.) Then we have a candidate for US Senate that talked about "2nd Amendment solutions" and a new Congressman from Florida whose first act as an elected official is to hire a violent right wing mouthpiece that has said, among other things, that if ballots don't work- bullets will. We have a guy that gets into a shootout with police while on his way to kill people because of "what he learned from Glenn Beck" even though Beck was lying through his teeth, as most of those right wingers on the airwaves with their paid platforms do with regularity and abandon. How about the signs at tea bagger rallies? They had many with "the tree of liberty" quote while people were wearing and/or carrying weapons. There were people shouting "kill him" at McCain/Palin rallies and Sarah Palin didn't have the decency to at least do what McCain did and say "no, don't say that" and the other things he did say to stop and correct some of his supporters. People like Palin, who is now trying to deny she used any kind of language that would incite when her aim was to incite anger and hatred. She cannot deny her words when there is so much evidence to back it up. The video clips out there prove to the world that she promotes hatred and causes violence with her words.
The president has talked about ARGUING and has only spoke of any kind of statement that could be called violent when it comes to foreign countries that do not want to work peaceably with us. And since the right regularly says "he isn't tough enough" on those who aren't our allies, I don't know what they expect.
The queen of birthers, pseudo-lawyer Orly Taitz, has regularly told people to take up arms against the government to remove the "usurper" from office - to take back "their" government. We have "oath keepers" who threaten violence and have forgotten their first oath they made & are against this president. They were in greater danger of having rights abridged during the last administration and yet they threaten to take up arms against this one. And no amount of whitewashing will change their actual and ultimate target they are speaking of. Lies about "death panels" that didn’t exist in the HCR bill. And so much more intended to incite & the natural conclusion from some- violence.

Posted by: alaskan2 | January 10, 2011 3:27 PM | Report abuse

Mr. Dobbs, I agree. I have just written an e-mail to the paper, reporting some of the more offensive posts on here. If they do not take action, I plan to cancel my subscription and subscribe to the NY Times, which does a much better job of keeping ignorant hate speech off of its forums.

Shelly Deavy
NW Washington DC

Posted by: shellyd1977 | January 10, 2011 2:40 PM | Report abuse

This is absolutely absurd to blame political talk for this travesty. The only person to blame for this is the person who pull the trigger. Both the left and right have inflammatory rhetoric, and always have and always will be. It the same thing to say that movies, news, blogs and games is to blame for this problem too. Does any of you believe that? Have you all seen what is posted on just this site by both sides in just one day? How many of us flip out and kill people. No one would suggest that this site should be shut down would you.

Posted by: tateofpa | January 10, 2011 2:27 PM | Report abuse

What a crock NRA - you should be charged
with the shooter because you are the ones
that are causing the gun madness in the US.

Hopefully members of Congress will soon
grow some stones and stand up to you and
legislate a serious gun control law.

You are all a bunch of psychos NRA, and yes
you are responsible for the tragedy in
Tuscon.

How dare you send a message of sympathy -
you are a totally disgusing organization.

Posted by: Sirius2 | January 10, 2011 2:07 PM | Report abuse

When it comes to 'obscenely' using the media and media events for personal or political aggrandizement, half-governor Palin would be considered the foremost authority.

Posted by: 21stCenturyCaveman | January 10, 2011 1:52 PM | Report abuse

The AZ shooting is indeed a sad, tragic, brutal incident. Even sadder and more brutal is that we barely blink as we send billions of dollars and billions of bullets to other countries for exactly the same purpose.

Posted by: TDog66 | January 10, 2011 1:40 PM | Report abuse

The AZ shooting is indeed a sad, tragic, brutal incident. Even sadder and more brutal is that we barely blink as we send billions of dollars and billions of bullets to other countries for exactly the same purpose.

Posted by: TDog66 | January 10, 2011 1:38 PM | Report abuse

The AZ shooting is indeed a sad, tragic, brutal incident. Even sadder and more butal is that we barely blink as we send billions of dollars and billions of bullets to other countries for exactly the same purpose.

Posted by: TDog66 | January 10, 2011 1:36 PM | Report abuse

So by your liberal logic, one quack job takes something out of context and uses it to kill so we should censor free speech? Numerous nut jobs take the Koran out of context, according to your same liberal illogic we can't judge the entire religion based on that. You can't have it both ways. Seems you people pick your values depending on the day and your agenda. And by the way there is no evidence that the shooter even knew who Sarah Palin or any other conservative talk show host was or that he was in anyway affiliated with the Tea Party.. Most pot smoking Manifesto loving folks are more likely to listen to air America!Of course in true liberal fashion you will keep repeating the lie until the useful idiots believe it!

Posted by: lynn2011 | January 10, 2011 1:08 PM | Report abuse


Reload Boys, we have some political-in-jons at 12 O’Clock High

"And it's not surprising then that they get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations," Obama said.

It is not surprising that Jared Loughner got bitter and clinged to his father’s guns.

It is not surprising that Sarah Palin, Rupert Murdoch, Sean Hanity, Bill O'Reilly, Glenn Beck, and Rush Limbaugh have antipathy toward people aren’t like them.

It is not surprising that Dick Army, Michele Bachmann, John Boehner, John McCain ,and Joe Wilson spew their anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-Affordable Health Care sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations.

McCain brought Palin to the civilized lower 48. Palin brought violence.

Jared Loughner– 1st Degree Murders
Sarah Palin
Rupert Murdoch
Sean Hanity
Bill O'Reilly
Glenn Beck
Rush Limbaugh

Dick Army-2nd Degree Murders
Michele Bachmann
John Boehner
John McCain
Joe Wilson

This is the dirty dozen that has blood on their hands. Within the last two years they have single handily set the tone with their reload mentality that will shape our future political landscape.

Sister Palin have suggested that the cross hairs on here web page’ map was targets, and it is surprising to note that if your nine years old child had been killed this weekend you would be comfort by your religion, local news papers commentators and FOX News.

Posted by: nateminor | January 10, 2011 12:54 PM | Report abuse

I grew up in the 60's and was a part of the anti war crowd so I remember what violent rhetoric sounds like. I do not hear anywhere near the same type coming from constitutional conservatives today. I still do hear it from the left as they swoon about killing George Bush, Rush Limbaugh and all their ilk. From Obama as he wants his followers to "if they bring a knife we will bring a gun" and "get in their face" type rhetoric. When I listen to "talk Left" on satellite radio all I hear is foul language and hateful rhetoric.

Posted by: vinconco | January 10, 2011 11:44 AM | Report abuse

Failin Palin, Beck, Hannity, Tucker, Rush
(drug addict), Republican hate-mongers -
YOU ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR THIS TERRIBLE
TRAGEDY. YOU SPEW HATE -- ALL OF YOU!

PALIN: "RELOAD" - YOU ARE A FREAK SHOW

Pailin is done! Murdock and his ilk should
be shut down, and the freaks he employs
should be charged as they are the ones
responsible for this current state of
wing nuts and the hate they bark

Posted by: Sirius2 | January 10, 2011 11:36 AM | Report abuse

Failin Palin, Beck, Hannity, Tucker, Rush
(drug addict), Republican hate-mongers -
YOU ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR THIS TERRIBLE
TRAGEDY. YOU SPEW HATE -- ALL OF YOU!

PALIN: "RELOAD" - YOU ARE A FREAK SHOW

Pailin is done! Murdock and his ilk should
be shut down, and the freaks he employs
should be charged as they are the ones
responsible for this current state of
wing nuts and the hate they bark

Posted by: Sirius2 | January 10, 2011 11:35 AM | Report abuse

I'm trying to understand the reasoning here. Let's see:

Communism is a totalitarian ideology that depends on big government. Nazism is a totalitarian ideology that also depends on big government. So they are the same thing.

Liberals love big government so they're all communist nazis.

OK, got it. Let me try, let me try:

To conservatives, individual freedom is a more important virtue than the collective welfare. If government would just leave everyone alone, everyone would be better off.

Pedophiles just want government to leave them alone.

Therefore, conservatives are pedophiles and the Republican Party is NAMBLA.

Did I get it right?

Posted by: mloaks | January 10, 2011 10:52 AM | Report abuse

There is this sort of misleading neutralism citing the "heated political rhetoric."

It isn't the left, the moderates or democrats in specific that have infused their followers with the adrenal-rush of violence and warfare against the nation's government: to wit, "Gather your Armies" Don't retreat, RELOAD!" "second-amendment remedies" allusions to pit-bulls, gun-sights targeting political adversaries, mama grizzly bears, venomous snakes warning "don't tread on me" all the way to secessation from the union. It isn't the liberals or the moderates that are commemorating the last time there was secessation, followed by armed-insurrection (the Civil War) that resulted in more dead Americans than in all the wars we've ever fought.

But, Rhetoric is just that- words. However, on the right side of the spectrum we've been treated to a senate candidate hosting an event where his supporters held down a female critic by placing his foot on her head, and an insistent journalist was taken away in hand-cuffs for "asking questions." We've all seen both the racist signs and the automatic weapons at their political rallies- what is there comparable coming from the other side of the spectrum?

The right and its apologists (or better, their propagandists) are desperately trying to equate the outrage on the left (outrage against all, and more; that I have cited above) with their cozying up to, incitiment of and manipulation of the most divisive, extreme and dangerous elements in our society. But it isn't us on the left that are forming militias to kill federal and local autorities, it isn't democrats that are flying planes loaded with incendiary material into Government tax-offices, and it isn't us shooting congresswomen with whom we disagree.

Posted by: interactidiomas | January 10, 2011 10:19 AM | Report abuse

It's unfortunate that Sheriff Clarence Dupnik's office chose to not forewarn the community about this potentially dangerous person. Surely members of law enforcement are not casually called upon to deliver letters to students who have been expelled. Perhaps the loquacious Sheriff Dupnik will clarify this issue in the days to come.


"In September, after five run-ins with campus police for disruptive behavior and the discovery of rantings on YouTube, Mr. Loughner was issued a suspension letter, delivered by police officers to Mr. Loughner's home. After he had already withdrawn from the school, the college sent him a letter informing him he would have to take a mental health exam if he were to return."

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703667904576073002519837620.html?mod=googlenews_wsj

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Posted by: commonsense_2010 | January 10, 2011 10:01 AM | Report abuse

Sheriff Dupnik is quickly turning into Sheriff Dumb-nik. His 15 minutes of fame will soon depart and he will be left alone with all those awfull people who live in Arizona and vote.

Posted by: ariver31112 | January 10, 2011 9:54 AM | Report abuse

This shooter posted on his web site that he was inspired by Sarah Palin.Palin place the Congresswoman in the crosshairs and went around saying "lock and load". I do not think anyone interpreted that a "locking and loading a surveyers tool." The lame denials by her staff all not helping her. Abject apologies would go further. But Palin did not have a monopoly of this hateful, dangersous speech. It is time, not for denial, but introspection and a change in behavior.

Posted by: withersb | January 10, 2011 9:46 AM | Report abuse

Palin is finished, and good riddance to that dimwit. She's been sowing right-wing violent rhetoric and now she's been nailed at it becaue of the deranged loser in Arizona, one of the marching zombies of antigovernment hatred.

Posted by: Plutonium57 | January 10, 2011 8:04 AM | Report abuse

While I agree w/ the avuncular Sheriff Dupnik, his comments are inappropriate for his position. His job is to enforce the law, not comment on the national political climate. He erroneously speculated in the national media that the shooter may not have acted alone. He'll probably start commenting on global warming and our dependence on foreign oil. Clearly the good sheriff is enjoying his moment in the spotlight, but he should shut his yapper and do his job.

Posted by: randysbailin | January 10, 2011 7:55 AM | Report abuse

Sheriff Clarence Dupnick apparantly has a problem with people who passionatly disagree with their "duly elected officials", that is, if they have a political philosophy that is different than his. It's called freedom of speech, folks! This precious "freedom" is guaranteed to us by the Constitution of the United States of America, not some politician of the moment. I would rather do my own thinking for myself than to have Barack Hussein Obama, Nancy Pelosi, Harry Reid, Barbara Boxer, or Bawny Fwank do my thinking for me. Every sane thinking American abhors what this young man "allegedly" did, whether they be left or right. Living in a free society has some inherent risks, just as life does. However, anyone with a brain knows that what this man "allegedly" did was wrong and evil. That being said, there is never any excuse to rape "We the People" of our precious freedom of speech.

Posted by: barrysal | January 10, 2011 7:44 AM | Report abuse

Attention idiots of history:

Hitler's Germany... you know, with the "Nazis", was a fascist nation. Not Communist, not socialist in the sense we know it, but fascist. They were nationalists, ultra-patriotic creeps. The term "Nazi" is cognate with "nationalist". Yes, their official party name had "socialist" in it (National Socialists - a misnomer), but they weren't socialists as we know them. The party of the left in Germany at the time, the Socialist Democrats, were their left wing party.

So, get it right. Those right-wing extremists in our country today, who tend to love guns, think businesses should run the gov't, and talk about forming militias, and dream of violently overthrowing the government? The Tea Party - those are the Nazi-types, here.

Not the so-called socialists, who think all people should have good healthcare, or worry about whether people have unemployment insurance, or things like that.

Note that we don't hear about any violent overthrow of the gov't from the left. We don't have an analogous Communist contingent to that of Soviet Russia.

Posted by: fbutler1 | January 9, 2011 11:45 PM | Report abuse

I'm a Canadian (not "up" on American laws etc)
BUT Is there NO way Sarah Palin cannot be charged with SOMETHING???
Accessory?? Aiding and Abetting??? Murder???
If it were an ordinary Joe, she would certainly be. Look at good old WIKI!
AT THE VERY LEAST, CHARGE HER WITH NOT WAKING UP HER BRAIN BEFORE STARTING UP HER MOUTH.
I have yet to read ANYTHING INTELLIGENT THAT LOW-LIFE HAS SAID, YET, SOME Americans seem to LISTEN TO HER!!! GO FIGURE!!!

Posted by: clouddancer1 | January 9, 2011 2:03 PM | Report abuse

It is a sad commentary on our times when any person takes up a weapon and commits a mass shooting like this one. Motivation for such events comes from a variety of sources, personal and external, and the results are always unpredictable. We can only hope that the injured survive and fully recover. We pray for the deceased and their families, may they all find peace amid the chaos and what follows.

Some comment that chastising those who speak of hostile means to right a perceived wrong is, itself, wrong. I disagree. Sharron Angle used the term "Second Amendment remedies" in her remarks about defeating Harry Reid. That is nothing but a call to arms. Sarah Palin said "Don't Retreat -- RELOAD", as if she were encouraging troops to fight. To some of us, this is mere talk and we understand the idea that the fight is important, but that real physical violence is unlikely. To others, troubled or incapable of understanding the "meaning" of the phrases, it is a call to take up the physical means of eliminating the opponent.

The shooter is reported to have made some wild claims in his blogs about brainwashing and changing currency, etc. before attacking a government official. We can only guess if his intent was to TAKE BACK the government, or use Second Amendment Remedies to solve the problem. We do know that he did not retreat. He went with a loaded weapon to do serious harm, leaving death in his wake. Whether you choose to attribute his behavior to anything other than his own mental condition is up to you, but consider that he MIGHT have been motivated by hearing strong language for months on end about using force to solve the problems in his life. It may be time for a reshaping of the rhetoric in campaigns to make it more civilized and less aggressive. No blame is attached in this comment, but the violent language of the campaign past came from the Tea Party and the conservative right wing of the Republican party, so take it for what it is.

Posted by: ronjeske | January 9, 2011 12:48 PM | Report abuse

“We’re on Sarah Palin’s targeted list,” Ms. Giffords said last March. “But the thing is the way that she has it depicted has the cross hairs of a gun sight over our district. When people do that, they’ve got to realize there’s consequences to that.”

Posted by: FoundingMother | January 9, 2011 12:47 PM | Report abuse

Lying is second nature to these people and apparently they are so determined to lie they turn into national fools:

"Bruce, a Palin supporter, that there was "nothing irresponsible" about the 20 crosshair-like symbols that appeared on a map of districts targeted last year by Palin's PAC, including that of Rep. Gabrielle Giffords (D-Ariz.).

"We never ever, ever intended it to be gun sights. ... We never imagined, it never occurred to us that anybody would consider it violent," Mansour said."

Yes - we never intended them to be cross hairs BUT we took them down immediately after the shooting!

Posted by: FoundingMother | January 9, 2011 12:13 PM | Report abuse

One of the great dangers to this country is ignorance--in a world economy built on knowledge. It is difficult to choose who the most ignorant politician in the country is, but Sarah Palin is giving Peter King a run for his money. Since I don't believe she is a malevolent person bent on the assassination of political adversaries, I have to conclude she is seriously ignorant of the consequences of her actions. As F. Scott Fitzgerald once noted, there are two kinds of people: those who make messes and those who clean them up. We really need more members of the clean-up crew in this country.

Posted by: samkaplan@hotmail.com | January 9, 2011 12:08 PM | Report abuse

Jonathon "Swift": How's it workin' out for your mother to have given birth to such an idiot? And the irony is that you have the name SWIFT, when in reality, you're anything BUT SWIFT!!

Posted by: slamming | January 9, 2011 12:04 PM | Report abuse

Jonathon Swift: How's it workin' out for your mother TO HAVE GIVEN BIRTH TO A TOTAL FREAKING IDIOT???
And for you gun nuts; Assuming that you know the difference between a regular gun and an ASSAULT weapon, who EVER said they wanted to take away your precious guns? The president wanted a ban on ASSAULT weapons and you KNOW THAT, so cut the crap. Anyway, look at the carnage caused yesterday by one of your PRECIOUS GUNS!!! AND IT WASN'T A "REGULAR GUN", OR HE NEVER WOULD HAVE GOTTEN OFF THAT MANY ROUNDS! BUT CONGRATULATIONS!!! YOU STILL HAVE YOUR GUNS!!! TOO BAD THEY'RE NOT UP YOUR ***!!!

Posted by: slamming | January 9, 2011 11:52 AM | Report abuse

Jonathon Swift: How's it workin' out for your mother TO HAVE GIVEN BIRTH TO A TOTAL FREAKING IDIOT???
And for you gun nuts; Assuming that you know the difference between a regular gun and an ASSAULT weapon, who EVER said they wanted to take away your precious guns? The president wanted a ban on ASSAULT weapons and you KNOW THAT, so cut the crap. Anyway, look at the carnage caused yesterday by one of your PRECIOUS GUNS!!! AND IT WASN'T A "REGULAR GUN", OR HE NEVER WOULD HAVE GOTTEN OFF THAT MANY ROUNDS! BUT CONGRATULATIONS!!! YOU STILL HAVE YOUR GUNS!!! TOO BAD THEY'RE NOT UP YOUR ***!!!

Posted by: slamming | January 9, 2011 11:52 AM | Report abuse

There are now words that can express the pain of losing a child, I know first hand. It is the nightmare of a lifetime and it never heals.

For those of you defending Palin and trying to gloss over the website with the crosshairs, you should feel pretty stupid right now if you thought that was cool. And judging by your comments trying to defend it, you do.

It is time to admit that inflamatory rhetoric is dangerous because even though most of us are passionate about our ideas, we control our violent tendencies and can never be incited to shoot anyone. But there are crazies out there and if your in the business of riling up people, you need to be damn careful and take responsiblity for your words and IMAGES.

PALIN had this woman in the the Crosshairs of a gun scope. You can see it for yourself. Deny it or don't but it happened, it's real, it happened and now this.

Posted by: lndlouis | January 9, 2011 11:29 AM | Report abuse

I believe the dog whistles that Palin has been using to her supporters have been answered. She has blood on her hands.

Posted by: B-rod | January 9, 2011 11:25 AM | Report abuse

Oh god the irony she was born on 9/11. What bookends to a sad decline in America. Canada, here I come.

Posted by: B-rod | January 9, 2011 11:23 AM | Report abuse

How dismaying it is to see the rude, unfeeling, and political rants being submitted. A child has been killed, parents killed and injured, for no reason. It would be a lot more productive if people could engage in mature discussion rather than fomenting dissent and promulgating anger.

Posted by: Marywexler38 | January 9, 2011 11:11 AM | Report abuse

My expectation is that we will never know if Christina Taylor Greene's meeting of her Congressional Representative would have otherwise been the turning point that would have then launched led Christina Taylor Greene to a run for the Presidency herself, in 2060, or perhaps to instead be appointed to a post like Secretary of Defense. For Christina Taylor Greene is dead. And from this point out, I'm keeping my kids at home, so that they may someday be able to be elected to a position of responsibility; which they can then run from their home. May God Bless Christina Taylor Greene. And may God Bless America.

Posted by: jralger | January 9, 2011 10:37 AM | Report abuse

CHRISTina, born on 9/11, is symbolic of the America which could have been reality if love instead of hatred (symbolized by her young killer) could have taken over in the wake of 9/11. Hatred and violence are winning in Arizona, Afghanistan and America. Thanks a lot militarists and tea baggers. Needed is a requiem for America (the Beautiful). Fascism anyone?

Posted by: Spiritof761 | January 9, 2011 10:04 AM | Report abuse

While we criticize the hate-mongering of right-wing media, the fact is that this media is supported by advertising dollars, and that those of us who buy products from the companies that advertise on Fox and hate radio indirectly subsidize this behavior.

If we care about America, we have to stop buying products from companies that support the spread of hate on our public airwaves with their advertising dollars.

My heart goes out to all of the people who were harmed for taking their role as citizens in Democracy seriously by participating in the Congress on your Corner event, and to their families.

Posted by: bethechangeyouwant | January 9, 2011 9:56 AM | Report abuse

Just another example of good Christian republican politics. If you can't rig it, buy it, lie your way to get it, or start a war to gain it then just shoot the opposition. Limbaugh, Hannity, the Bushes, and Palin are all smiles today and we suffer for tolerating these illiterate morons and those who support them!

Posted by: anOPINIONATEDsob | January 9, 2011 8:56 AM | Report abuse

Isn't it ironic? Gabrielle Giffords is a patron of gun ownership. And now she's a victim of a gun.

Posted by: bertkrus | January 9, 2011 8:16 AM | Report abuse

The communists are wetting themselves trying to use this as barry X's reichstag fire.

"May you live in interesting times" is quite a curse indeed.

Posted by: dicksucker | January 9, 2011 7:48 AM | Report abuse

Unfortunately, since the sixties, psychiatry has slowly become a big business rather than a profession dedicated to truly healing people.
Drugs are dished out like candy and few disturbed individuals get any real therapy at all. I think people realize this and choose to act out rather than to seek help that is non-existent. The system to hold and treat people was dismantled. Families may recognize that one or more of their members need help but have no legal means to force this unless the person in question acts out violently in some fashion.
Some of the drugs prescribed even proven to have a cause and effect relationship to violent behavior.
In reading this man's rambling it is obvious he has probably needed help for a long time. We don't know the facts yet, but perhaps he does have a history of sporadic but inadequate
psychiatric care which is usually the case in these mass
shootings.
This is not a right vs. left problem, it is a symptom of a gradual deterioration of society and its humanistic values.
We know that the health and strength of a society is seen in how it treats its weakest and most vulnerable.

Posted by: Dipsy1 | January 9, 2011 5:51 AM | Report abuse

I feel sorry for those who were subject to this violence. I am an independent politically, and don't know who the tea baggers are. I don't know who this Glen Beck is. I have heard Rush but prefer not to. I believe in the second amendment but have never heard about it being used as a solution. I do know that it was placed there to prevent tyranny, which hasn't worked out real well. This man may very well be a nut we will have to wait and see. I pay enough attention to see that we as Americans are sick of losing our rights one at a time, and read enough comments to know others are oblivious to it happening (mostly younger kumbayah's as we all were in our 20's) I do not condone this shooting, but I'll not say I didn't see it coming,and neither can anyone watching the world around us as it falls apart. Something has got to be done about our government selling us and not supporting us. I'm not sure of the answer, THIS seems a bit overboard and seems to cause more confusion. Right blaming Left, Left blaming Right, Anti Gun Nuts coming out of the woodwork to deny our protections by law,though as I stated earlier they haven't worked out as planned we still have the tyranny and no feasible way to stop it. Yup Folks hold on it's going to be a bumpy ride. Me, I'm going to duck and cover.

Posted by: dlpartyka | January 9, 2011 5:29 AM | Report abuse

I feel sorry for those who were subject to this violence. I am an independent politically, and don't know who the tea baggers are. I don't know who this Glen Beck is. I have heard Rush but prefer not to. I believe in the second amendment but have never heard about it being used as a solution. I do know that it was placed there to prevent tyranny, which hasn't worked out real well. This man may very well be a nut we will have to wait and see. I pay enough attention to see that we as Americans are sick of losing our rights one at a time, and read enough comments to know others are oblivious to it happening (mostly younger kumbayah's as we all were in our 20's) I do not condone this shooting, but I'll not say I didn't see it coming,and neither can anyone watching the world around us as it falls apart. Something has got to be done about our government selling us and not supporting us. I'm not sure of the answer, THIS seems a bit overboard and seems to cause more confusion. Right blaming Left, Left blaming Right, Anti Gun Nuts coming out of the woodwork to deny our protections by law,though as I stated earlier they haven't worked out as planned we still have the tyranny and no feasible way to stop it. Yup Folks hold on it's going to be a bumpy ride. Me, I'm going to duck and cover.

Posted by: dlpartyka | January 9, 2011 5:23 AM | Report abuse

"Cantor shouldn't be postponing the vote to repeal the Health Care Act. He should be canceling it, period.
Posted by: exco"

Then all the better for the members of Congress to repeal one of the most egregious examples of partisan legislation, and in due respect of Rep. Giffords triumph the transparency and concern for constituent opinion the bill did not display.

Posted by: cprferry | January 9, 2011 3:50 AM | Report abuse

Cantor shouldn't be postponing the vote to repeal the Health Care Act. He should be canceling it, period.

The sole purpose for scheduling the vote was to fan the flames of partisanship that are destroying the country. Out of respect for their colleague, perhaps the members of the House of Representatives on both sides of the aisle can agree that its time to stop the Itchy and Scratchy Show.

Posted by: exco | January 9, 2011 3:22 AM | Report abuse

A man of criminal back ground with a known mental problems had purchased a semi-automatic pistol and shooting down innocent lives including a representative of the people could never be explained as strong democracy and this could create more copycat incidents. The U.S lawmakers should have been more united on gun control issue and should have taken adequate precautions against this kind of unspeakable human rights abuse.

Posted by: bigbrother88 | January 9, 2011 1:29 AM | Report abuse

granitesentry:
We all look for blame. In this case, I choose to blame people who incite violence like Sarah 'gunsight' Palin, Sharron 'Second Amendment Remedies' Angle, and Glen 'Buy Gold from Goldline and food for survial' Beck.

Yes, this guy lost his marbles, and he probably will be found innocent, even in Arizona because he probably is insane. But he probably had Michael Savage on, and could not find another station and it drove him over the edge....after all, haven't you ever heard Doc Savage? He's a lunatic, and listening to him for any length of time will drive your IQ below 100 in ten minutes. Glenn Beck talks to his audience with dolls, think about that for a minute. I saw your blog, I won't be going back.

Posted by: whynotajoke | January 9, 2011 1:25 AM | Report abuse

His political opinions - Left or Right - have no more to do with this than his choice of toothpaste. He's a lunatic, first and foremost. I've got a post at www.granitesentry.com. Love to hear anybody else's views.

Posted by: granitesentry | January 9, 2011 1:19 AM | Report abuse

His political opinions - Left or Right - have no more to do with this than his choice of toothpaste. He's a lunatic, first and foremost. I've got a post at www.granitesentry.com. Love to hear anybody else's views.

Posted by: granitesentry | January 9, 2011 1:15 AM | Report abuse

My heart goes out to the family of this poor child and all the other victims in Tucson.

We have lost our way when not even the murder of a nine year old girl keeps "people" from posting hateful comments.

Posted by: dottydont | January 9, 2011 12:17 AM | Report abuse

tanksoldier: Huh. A libtard pothead was driven to murder a Democrat by Glenn Beck?

Ad hominem attack by a "tanksoldier". I understand that you had to score pretty low on the ASVABS to get that job. Is that true? And how do you know the guy was a 'libtard' versus a 'Paultard'? He was talking about silver and gold backing the dollar. Aren't those libertarian and Ron/Rand Paul leanings???

Posted by: whynotajoke | January 9, 2011 12:13 AM | Report abuse

The shooter was a constitutionalist, a Nazi sympathizer, a gun nut and just a crazy nut-nut. These are all right wing characteristics. The target was one handpicked by Palin who supported healthcare reform. How can this not be a political act? Not every right wing nut will become a shooter, but some will, and some right wing nut will gladly point out a target. You betcha!

Of course we're angry! How can we not be angry? You right wing nuts are not just content with your playground taunts, now you're shooting us down.

Posted by: DavidH3 | January 9, 2011 12:11 AM | Report abuse

lastvisibledog PLEASE get back on the meds. Please.

Posted by: johnrbtbeckman | January 9, 2011 12:10 AM | Report abuse

Starshine1: Does Glen Beck tell you what to think using dolls hanging on strings?

Posted by: whynotajoke | January 9, 2011 12:06 AM | Report abuse

Starshine1: "The only hate rhetoric I have heard is from the Democrats."

You sir, are, and I don;t mean this in a mean way, unread. Sarah Palin (R-AK) painted a target on this congresswoman's head. Sharon Angel referred to Second Amendment remedies. Are you serious?

Posted by: whynotajoke | January 9, 2011 12:04 AM | Report abuse

Starshine1: "The only hate rhetoric I have heard is from the Democrats."

You sir, are, and I don;t mean this in a mean way, unread. Sarah Palin (R-AK) painted a target on this congresswoman's head. Sharon Angel referred to Second Amendment remedies. Are you serious?

Posted by: whynotajoke | January 9, 2011 12:03 AM | Report abuse

Starshine1: "The only hate rhetoric I have heard is from the Democrats."

You sir, are, and I don;t mean this in a mean way, unread. Sarah Palin (R-AK) painted a target on this congresswoman's head. Sharon Angel referred to Second Amendment remedies. Are you serious?

Posted by: whynotajoke | January 9, 2011 12:02 AM | Report abuse

Folks: This guy was not right wing! He was not left wing! He is a young man who was probably a normal individual at one point, but over the past few years gradually descended into the depths of severe mental illness - the late teens/early twenties tends to be when schizophrenia sets in. He is insane, and that's all - I'm sure his motivations, such as they are, will end up just as delusional and basically apolitical as Hinkley's were when he attacked Reagan.

It's really sad that this issue, like so many others in this day and age, has been reduced into the usual right-left slug fest. Most things in the world are complex, nuanced and require genuine thought to comprehend, and this event is one of them. Everyone on this site who is throwing around anti-right and anti-left diatribes should be ashamed - each and every one of you dishonor the victims and diminish yourself.

Turn off the talking heads and the cable news channels, and instead try to go interact with and learn about the real world and real people. You'll be better for it.

Posted by: occasionalthoughts | January 8, 2011 11:57 PM | Report abuse

starshine1: God didn't write the Constitution and I don't see it as a Christian Document. If you don't see "hate" from the Right then you have simply not been paying attention. God have Mercy on us as these defilers of the Gospel keep pressing their Objectivism in God's name, and putting targets on the faces of their opponents,

Posted by: friarjohn00 | January 8, 2011 11:53 PM | Report abuse

The only hate rhetoric I have heard is from the Democrats. They either have no tolerance for anyone they don't like, or they accuse other people of having the very flaws they themselves have. The Non-Democrats talk about having the right to keep everything the Constitution and God promised. I see much more happiness and forgiveness from Republicans and other parties than Democrats. I blame this on one sick individual who clearly didn't know right from wrong.

Posted by: starshine1 | January 8, 2011 11:46 PM | Report abuse

I'm sick of these phony patriots. The Becks, the Hannitys, the Palins. They are truly, truly destroying our country.

Posted by: freshfudge1 | January 8, 2011 11:43 PM | Report abuse

LastVisibleDog: This guy is a fan of Ayn Rand, the creator of the Objectivist philosophy that drives the Right. That it is an anti-Christian, and pro violence as a means to power seems to have been overlooked, or at last misdirected to. He also seems to have read a Fascist handbook on power, and that too is a part of the far right.
As for the rest of your little screed, I know which side of the political divide calls for my death, and I know which side is so fast to devolve to violence. We've now, apparently seen a "Second Amendment Solution." How many more will we have to endure before we finally admit that we have home grown terrorists who hide behind a political movement and may well have taken control of it.
You are quick to dismiss, question my sanity and then turn me into the monster. Nicely done use of ad hominum, by the way.

Posted by: friarjohn00 | January 8, 2011 10:52 PM | Report abuse

LastVisibleDog: Your little rant serves no point other than to belittle, and again prove that the Objectivist right is so deeply anti-intellectual that it can't stand be told it's wrong with reason. And yes, I and others take this as a sign that the Tea Party is capable of great damage to the US, and will resort to violence. I did adress his points, but neither you nor he like my answers. I'm not being "condescending" I am showing how fed up I am with you and your dismissive, nasty, and narrow minded shlock.
You all have played a game, and now we are all going to pay for your rhetoric. Hang your head in shame at the damage you, and and your fetish doll half term governor have wreaked upon our Nation. My disgust at her isn't "Sexual frustration" it is revulsion to willful ignorance sold as a virtue. It seems that it is the Right who have embraced her as a sex symbol.

Posted by: friarjohn00 | January 8, 2011 10:39 PM | Report abuse

LiveFreeOrDie177:

You are one of those who promote and spread lies and paranoid-based misinformation. You are seriously disturbed if you believe what you wrote. If you don't believe it, but post such drivel to further incite those who are disturbed, that is exactly what contributed to the shooting today.

Whether the shooter is a Democrat or far right republican, it's the climate of disinformation, lies and hints of possible violence perpetuated by the right that is responsible for this act. And, you are clearly one of those, someone very busy spreading hatred, intentional misinformation and lies.

I think its time to consider passing legislation that requires jail time for intentionally posting politically-motivated misinformation and lies.

Posted by: caroll1 | January 8, 2011 10:38 PM | Report abuse

“this guy is a fan of the Prophet of the God of the Market you rightwingers have embraced as well...This guy is informed by the Right, and acted out his delusions” - friarjohn00

friarjohn00, you are absolutely pathetic – you are making stuff up. There is no evidence to support any of your rambling – you are just spewing nonsense you are making up to support you blind hatred for your political adversaries – absolutely amazing. Some on the Left are trying to make this tragedy into their own Reichstag Fire so they can try and ban a political movement, censor free speech they don’t agree with, and who know what else.

Posted by: LastVisibleDog | January 8, 2011 10:36 PM | Report abuse

Not all politicians are assassinated by people with the opposite political view.

Allard Lowenstein (D-NY) was assassinated by his own former protege who had been a civil rights activist and anti-Vietnam war protester.

Posted by: dumbreddown | January 8, 2011 10:26 PM | Report abuse

friarjohn00, your condescending claptrap did not even try to address any of MrMeaner’s points – you just spewed the tired old liberal elitist assumptions so common from the played-out left. You are the one that dodged all the points so you could spew your bigotry against a large percent of your fellow countrymen. The left is losing the battle of public option and getting shellacked in the elections – many on the left are becoming apoplectic and irrational with little more than blind hatred for their political adversaries ( the Left was talking about "40 years of Democrat rule" after 2008 – amazing the difference two years can make). The left trying to make political gain out of this tragedy is shocking and repulsive.

BTW: I think the left’s bizarre fixation on Palin is sexual frustration (just a theory)

Posted by: LastVisibleDog | January 8, 2011 10:19 PM | Report abuse

TheLibertarianBlogsDotCom: This could also be a prelude to a junta. Of course, you would like that.

Posted by: friarjohn00 | January 8, 2011 10:19 PM | Report abuse

friarjohn00, your condescending claptrap did not even try to address any of MrMeaner’s points – you just spewed the tired old liberal elitist assumptions so common from the played-out left. You are the one that dodged all the points so you could spew your bigotry against a large percent of your fellow countrymen. The left is losing the battle of public option and getting shellacked in the elections – many on the left are becoming apoplectic and irrational with little more than blind hatred for their political adversaries ( the Left was talking about "40 years of Democrat rule" after 2008 – amazing the difference two years can make). The left trying to make political gain out of this tragedy is shocking and repulsive.

BTW: I think the left’s bizarre fixation on Palin is sexual frustration (just a theory)

Posted by: LastVisibleDog | January 8, 2011 10:16 PM | Report abuse

MrMeaner: As I explained, using history not approved of by Glenn Beck, that the Fascists in general and the Nazis in particular were Right wing. They borrowed language of the Left, but they were purely in the model of the nationalist, corporitest, and in some cases clericalist, traditions of the European Right. You chose to ignore that and referred to a web sight with arguments so weak it made my head spin at it's simplicity. You have embraced just the sort of over simplification that drags down the American mind and the political discourse. You are flat out wrong. period.
Moving on, this guy is a fan of the Prophet of the God of the Market you rightwingers have embraced as well. No one is flailing around, we are simply not buying the line you are peddling. In fact, many of us see what it is you and others are saying as a sad, sad attemt to cover your buts. This guy is informed by the Right, and acted out his delusions as he shot those people. You all have played with violent rhetoric, and now a 9 year old is dead. I certainly hope that you and the rest of the Objectivist anti-intellectual thugs are please with yourselves.

Posted by: friarjohn00 | January 8, 2011 10:15 PM | Report abuse

The culture of hate and violence increasingly reflected in extreme right-wing opponents of those who support progressive solutions to our country's challenges is responsible for these shootings and deaths. Those who came to rallies with guns and signs hinting at possible violence toward those who disagreed with the right on health care reform, are responsible.

Rep. Gifford's office was vandalized after she voted for the federal health care reform law last year, was she was named on Sarah Palin's "Targeted" list.

All those on the right who encouraged and hinted at possible violence; and those who promoted deception and misinformation about health care reform are responsible, as are all those in the media, in the House and the Senate who perpetrated it: Limbaugh, Beck, Hannity, McConnell, Boehner and many others are responsible.

Posted by: caroll1 | January 8, 2011 10:11 PM | Report abuse

The culture of hate and violence increasingly encouraged by the extreme right-wing opponents of those who support progressive solutions to our country's challenges is responsible for this event.
Those who came to rallies about health care reform with guns and signs that threatened violence are responsible. The GOP is responsible for the deceptive information it has circulated about health care reform through Fox and other far right media, intended to incite and encourage violence in response to the health care reform legislation.

Rep. Gifford's office was vandalized after she voted for the federal health care reform law last year, and she was also named on Sarah Palin's "Targeted" list. She, and all the others: Beck, Limbaugh, Hannity, Mitch McConnell, John Boehner and many, many others are responsible.

Posted by: caroll1 | January 8, 2011 9:58 PM | Report abuse

leftist are cute when they flail about
wildly

Posted by: MrMeaner | January 8, 2011 9:45 PM | Report abuse

I think there's something up here. This doesn't make sense that the Dems are getting death threats i.e. the 2 packages exploding and now this. Yes, they'll want to take away our guns, but thats the least of our worries. This almost sounds like an inside job by the dems or worse men in back rooms. Everyone know's that this country is on the verge of civil war or a revolution, either way, sometimes you gotta nudge things along. I think this is the beginning of whatever is to come, but I hope I'm wrong.

http://thelibertarianblogs.com

Posted by: TheLibertarianBlogsDotCom | January 8, 2011 9:41 PM | Report abuse

Oh sure, Speaker Boehner is shocked, SHOCKED! now that some right-wing nut has shot a Democratic congresswomen and a Federal judge and many others ... but what did Boehner THINK would happen when he was shouting "ARMAGEDDON" after passage of health-care reform?

Posted by: HughBriss | January 8, 2011 9:39 PM | Report abuse

This is the ultimate attempt at spin by the right wing wacos.Now they are implying that the shooter was a leftist, and that there are facts to back their claim, but of course they cannot tell you where such "facts" might be found.
May be if we waterboard the guy he will tell us

Posted by: marioliggi | January 8, 2011 9:20 PM | Report abuse

This is the ultimate attempt at spin by the right wing wacos.Now they are implying that the shooter was a leftist, and that there are facts to back their claim, but of course they cannot tell you where such "facts" might be found.
May be if we waterboard the guy he will tell us

Posted by: marioliggi | January 8, 2011 9:20 PM | Report abuse

This is a logical outcome of the extreme hyperbolic rhetoric that has become a mainstay of the tea party movement -- claims that Obama and the Democrats are trying to destroy the nation, assertions that left-of-center members of Congress are guilty of unAmerican activity and beliefs, commentaries equating progressivism with communism or Marxism, and inflammatory calls to "take back the country" and resort to "Second Amendment remedies" will only serve to boil the blood and embolden the irrational thinking of a handful of the most fervent supporters of Angle, Palin, Beck, Bachmann, Brewer, et al.

Posted by: labman57 | January 8, 2011 9:18 PM | Report abuse

MrMeaner: Nice try. For one thing our founders were a widely differing group of men. Read the Federalist papers and get you eyes opened to the whole "limited" thing. You dodged and then repeated a trope. I have little use for most so called "conservatives" and you show the reason why. Your rhetoric is tired and grounded in mythology created by the neo-conservative Objectivists who control the right. In the end you are a ditto head, and a not overly sophisticated one. Read a book that doesn't have a Fox News persona on the cover and then you can join the grownups.

Posted by: friarjohn00 | January 8, 2011 9:16 PM | Report abuse

MrMeaner: You are so far off track, and insulated from facts that you can say that. He' was a fan of Hitler and Ayn Rand. He was obsessed over money and government control.


I never said any of that, other than my repeating of the fact that one of his favorite books was Mein Kempf.
My statement; "That makes him an admirer of Hitler, and the left-wing Natinal Socialist Party.", was in response to;

"Mein Kampf a favorite book? Doesn't that make him a Tea Party favorite?"

Just correcting the record.

Posted by: MrMeaner | January 8, 2011 9:16 PM | Report abuse

Huh. A libtard pothead was driven to murder a Democrat by Glenn Beck?

Posted by: tanksoldier | January 8, 2011 9:09 PM | Report abuse


Ghoulish Dims are looking for a martyr. She was not dead at 2 pm and she is still not dead.

Posted by: screwjob23 | January 8, 2011 9:06 PM | Report abuse

"No, MrMeaner, command and control styles of government can be either on the Right or the Left."

Not true. You can make the case that the (past) political dichotomy in Europe, termed by academe as left and right both are rooted in Socialism, but that has never been the case in this country.
We are the exception. The ideology of the modern "right", is based on the principles held by those who rebelled against the entire European model, and founded this nation.
Our founders envisioned a limited federal structure, and believed that governing should be left to the states.
That's hardly command and control

Posted by: MrMeaner | January 8, 2011 9:03 PM | Report abuse

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Posted by: addjian06 | January 8, 2011 8:52 PM | Report abuse

MrMeaner: You are so far off track, and insulated from facts that you can say that. He' was a fan of Hitler and Ayn Rand. He was obsessed over money and government control. Try as you might, and God knows you right wingers will try, this poor soul is one of yours. Paranoid, hateful and violent.
It was your new Prophet of Conservatism Palin who put the target on the Congresswoman, and it was the Tea Party who vandalized her headquarters. You right wingers sowed the seeds while you played with violent rhetoric and now we all reap the whirlwind. Incendiaries in government mail, a bomb factory in California, Nazis pulling the strings in our State houses, and the list goes on. How long will it be before we name these extremists for what they are: Terrorists and deal with them accordingly?

Posted by: friarjohn00 | January 8, 2011 8:46 PM | Report abuse

No, MrMeaner, command and control styles of government can be either on the Right or the Left. What separates them is the thing controlled or the philosophy behind it. Your inability to see that helps prove the point that most people don't understand History, and resent any intellectual attempts at discussion. YOu just repeat the tropes you've been given and move on.

The pretense of being a "common person" is the common theme between the two. The NAzis did it while backing up the old Imperial aristocracy and the plutocratic heads of big business. Republicans do it while nothing support for the "Family Farm" while cutting taxes that don't actually help do that, and cuddling up to, and aiding and abetting, the Big Agro Companies who are the real threat to small farms.

Posted by: friarjohn00 | January 8, 2011 8:36 PM | Report abuse

To summarize:
Condolences and prayers for the victims of this deranged leftist, and for the victims' families.
Epic fail for the leftists and their attempts to use a tragedy to smear their enemies, only to be forced in to retreat by the facts, once again.

Posted by: MrMeaner | January 8, 2011 8:34 PM | Report abuse

"For one, the Nazi pandering to the German peasant is no different from the imagery of Republicans talking about the "Family farm" and driving pickup trucks."

How does talking about the "Family farm" and driving pickup trucks (whatever that means) translate in to implementing a command and control style of governance?
That is what defines "left"

Posted by: MrMeaner | January 8, 2011 8:13 PM | Report abuse

Mr Meaner: Your using the oversimplifications of a Computer engineer only serves to prove my point. An actual study of history, rather than a cherry picked set of quotes, shows a different reality. For one, the Nazi pandering to the German peasant is no different from the imagery of Republicans talking about the "Family farm" and driving pickup trucks. Replace the Umpah bands with Country music and you have a Republican campaign rally .then we also have the troubling and oh so quiet connections between the Republican Party and the American NAZI's, particularly in Arizona.

Posted by: friarjohn00 | January 8, 2011 8:01 PM | Report abuse

Communism/Left Socialism were often rhetorical targets, and later literal targets, or Nazi aggression. The NSDAP was a peculiarly racist subset of Fascism which included the doctrines of Corporatism which was "government for the benefit of Corporate (ie: big business) interests." Such ideas would eventually be repackaged as Objectivism by Rand. We now have that very set of economic doctrines being pushed as "Christian" by the Right. This poor, sad creature is a product of the bad history and utter denigration of the study of actual History pushed by the right.
God have mercy on us.
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Apparently this guy also like Ayn Rand, too.

Posted by: mason08 | January 8, 2011 7:53 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: MrMeaner | January 8, 2011 7:50 PM | Report abuse

...Total horse puckey, of course.

Posted by: peterpun | January 8, 2011 7:30 PM |

Nah, that's donkey puckey, since your leftists always seem to be the ones holding the smoking gun, and reloading even.

Posted by: hared | January 8, 2011 7:36 PM | Report abuse

For you simpleminded righties who think that the NAzis were leftists I give you the following quote:

‎"There is no surer basis for fanaticism than bad history, which is invariably history oversimplified." ~ Dairmaid McCulloh

Communism/Left Socialism were often rhetorical targets, and later literal targets, or Nazi aggression. The NSDAP was a peculiarly racist subset of Fascism which included the doctrines of Corporatism which was "government for the benefit of Corporate (ie: big business) interests." Such ideas would eventually be repackaged as Objectivism by Rand. We now have that very set of economic doctrines being pushed as "Christian" by the Right. This poor, sad creature is a product of the bad history and utter denigration of the study of actual History pushed by the right.
God have mercy on us.

Posted by: friarjohn00 | January 8, 2011 7:33 PM | Report abuse

The really scary part is that the cons actually believe this junk.
They actually think it is the liberals, not the conservatives, who exhibit violent tendencies, when, in fact, it's the conservative, gun loving, liberal hating members of our society, who promote this kind of violence in action, speech and thought.

"They can't help themselves.
Occasional thought is, of course, right.
But, I would also contribute one addendum;
When the tenets of liberalism are dissected and broken down in to categories, and the goals of each tenet is examined, you find that there is no consistency. No greater good can result from the application of their policies, because all are self-defeating, and result in regression.
This can be, and has been demonstrated countless times, in terms of real, verifiable data, and yet it is rejected without consideration, because we are dealing with people under the influence of an ideology that discourages critical thinking in favor of conformity.

In short, this insane person who shot the congresswoman exhibited a slightly exaggerated version of the same hostilities and detachment from reality that have been programmed into the minds of many on the left."

Total horse puckey, of course.

Posted by: peterpun | January 8, 2011 7:30 PM | Report abuse

...ENOUGH SAID...!


CONGRATULATIONS REPUBLICAN/TEABAGGER DOMESTIC TERRORISTS!!!


ALL YOUR HARD WORK PAID OFF TODAY, YOU FINALLY HAVE DEMOCRATIC BLOOD ON YOUR HANDS!!!


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Posted by: DrainYou | January 8, 2011 7:05 PM


Actually, the blood is on the hands of a leftist nutjob.

Posted by: hared | January 8, 2011 7:17 PM | Report abuse

.


"Republicans don't retreat, they reload" - Sarah Palin


"Americans (Republicans) are going to have to start using 2nd Amendment remedies if the voters don't get it right." - Sharron Angle


ENOUGH SAID...!


CONGRATULATIONS REPUBLICAN/TEABAGGER DOMESTIC TERRORISTS!!!


ALL YOUR HARD WORK PAID OFF TODAY, YOU FINALLY HAVE DEMOCRATIC BLOOD ON YOUR HANDS!!!


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Posted by: DrainYou | January 8, 2011 7:05 PM | Report abuse

Before you dupes on the left go to apoplectic you may want to check out this post on Daily Kos before it gets scrubbed.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2011/1/6/933828/-My..

Posted by: jonathanj | January 8, 2011 6:38 PM | Report abuse

" It's called dignity and self-restraint. "

They can't help themselves.
Occasional thought is, of course, right.
But, I would also contribute one addendum;
When the tenets of liberalism are dissected and broken down in to categories, and the goals of each tenet is examined, you find that there is no consistency. No greater good can result from the application of their policies, because all are self-defeating, and result in regression.
This can be, and has been demonstrated countless times, in terms of real, verifiable data, and yet it is rejected without consideration, because we are dealing with people under the influence of an ideology that discourages critical thinking in favor of conformity.

In short, this insane person who shot the congresswoman exhibited a slightly exaggerated version of the same hostilities and detachment from reality that have been programmed into the minds of many on the left.

Posted by: MrMeaner | January 8, 2011 6:33 PM | Report abuse

Sounds like it was one of soros' crew.

Posted by: dicksucker | January 8, 2011 6:32 PM | Report abuse

Everyone wants recognition on this site, even though you are one in Hundreds of many comments. This Woman was a Human Being. If this tragedy was done by someone under 20, this person may have just wanted recognition. If not, he was probably influenced by the "old heads," at home. He probably didn't even understand the full "Politics," of this. Acting without Reasoning is unstableness, and all of the Negative Remarks here, are Backed by an Unstable Child. Murder is Cowardly. Murderers are NOT Leaders. Murdering is NOT going to stop or change anything in this situation. She was a HUMAN BEING--Maybe a Good Friend, as well as a Political Figure. How would you feel, if the situation were Reversed/or if you had been in the crowd, after shopping--maybe one of the Victims would have been YOU.

Posted by: Wings7 | January 8, 2011 6:19 PM | Report abuse

"I would wager that most leftist posters here are of the same persuasion, which is why you see the drop-off in insane posts..."

Yep. Now that we find out he was left-wing, there's nothing but crickets chirping in here. Notice how conservatives aren't harassing the liberals? It's called dignity and self-restraint. Notice how they're not as vengeful and incendiary?

...Well, I am. But that's just because I'm so fed up with them and their hateful BS. But most conservatives are more forgiving than I am. I was horrified when I first heard about this, so I go to the Washington Post to read more and all I find is left-wing crackpots blaming Sarah Palin.

Whoops!

Posted by: kpres | January 8, 2011 6:08 PM | Report abuse

Folks, everybody please chill out.

This is a horrible thing, but it's likely completely unrelated to anything political. Seriously.

Look at this guy's video's on youtube. He shows all the marks of being severely mentally ill, likely schizophrenic. I don't think this shooter had any conception of, or interest in, things like health care, or Sarah Palin, or Barack Obama, or immigration, or any of the other current political-debate hobby-horses.

This man was living in a world entirely of his own disordered imagining, and it's likely that whatever role Rep. Giffords played in his internal fantasy life was completely removed from the political positions she stood for in real life, just as it's likely that this guy never even looked at or cared about Sarah Palin's site.

Let me repeat: this was not a political assassination in the sense that everyone here seems to think it is. It is the isolated act of a severely ill individual. Terrible, deeply tragic, but not a comment on right-wing/left-wing politics. And everyone who is trying to make it into that, both left-wingers and right-wingers, will look really stupid in the morning.

Let me close my quoting one of Mr. Loughner's youtube videos:

"I'm a sleepwalker - who turns off the alarm clock."

'Nuf said.

Posted by: occasionalthoughts | January 8, 2011 6:06 PM | Report abuse

Clearly, this is the result of all the left-wing hatred of "Blue Dogs" incited by the Huffington Post.

Posted by: kpres | January 8, 2011 5:55 PM | Report abuse

"So if you don't know them, who the hell are you to label them?"

Who the hell are you to label anyone?

How many comments here are from leftists all too eager to "label" this guy as a right-wing tea-bagging worshiper of Rush Limbaugh?
Should we just be content with knowing that you are proven regularly to be liars?...Maybe. But it's hypocritical of you to condemn "the right" for rightly labeling this guy, when your ilk has been falsely labeling this guy as a right winger, from the moment the news broke.

Posted by: MrMeaner | January 8, 2011 5:54 PM | Report abuse

"Mein Kampf a favorite book? Doesn't that make him a Tea Party favorite?"

That makes him an admirer of Hitler, and the left-wing Natinal Socialist Party.

I've never heard, seen or read of any Tea Party National Socialists. If anything, we are the opponents of the modern-day equivalent, represented by many who make up the democrat party
In fact, the American left is riddled with National Socialists.
I would wager that most leftist posters here are of the same persuasion, which is why you see the drop-off in insane posts, over the past hour or so, since we are learning that he is in fact, one of your's.

Posted by: MrMeaner | January 8, 2011 5:44 PM |

What a surprise, not really. These leftists continue to blame others for their actions and their perennially bad behavior. Leftists, the 'Rodney Dangerfields' of the world, and danger in every sense of the word.

Posted by: hared | January 8, 2011 5:54 PM | Report abuse

"Mein Kampf a favorite book? Doesn't that make him a Tea Party favorite?"

That makes him an admirer of Hitler, and the left-wing Natinal Socialist Party.

I've never heard, seen or read of any Tea Party National Socialists. If anything, we are the opponents of the modern-day equivalent, represented by many who make up the democrat party
In fact, the American left is riddled with National Socialists.
I would wager that most leftist posters here are of the same persuasion, which is why you see the drop-off in insane posts, over the past hour or so, since we are learning that he is in fact, one of your's.

Posted by: MrMeaner | January 8, 2011 5:44 PM | Report abuse

From a classmate of Laughner:

"As I knew him he was left wing, quite liberal. & oddly obsessed with the 2012 prophecy."

http://twitter.com/caitieparker

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Liberals: Care to dislodge your collective feet from your mouths?

Posted by: kpres | January 8, 2011 5:41 PM | Report abuse

From a classmate of Laughner:

"As I knew him he was left wing, quite liberal. & oddly obsessed with the 2012 prophecy."

http://twitter.com/caitieparker

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Liberals: Care to dislodge your collective feet from your mouths?

Posted by: kpres | January 8, 2011 5:40 PM | Report abuse

"Now, until we know why, WE DON'T KNOW WHY!"

I thought the entire gist of the comments from leftists was to blame the right for this shooting.
Now that we learn that this guy is a God-hating Communist, with an affinity for Hitler's National Socialist Party, we should wait "until we know why".

Typical leftist hypocrisy

Posted by: MrMeaner | January 8, 2011 5:25 PM
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And what in the hell does that have to do with being on the left? That's the problem, you guys like to make labels for people! Yes, I'm on the left and am neither a communist or socialist!! People in general need to stop labeling people! You probably don't know any of the people you label! So if you don't know them, who the hell are you to label them?

Posted by: Angryman | January 8, 2011 5:39 PM | Report abuse

Mein Kampf a favorite book? Doesn't that make him a Tea Party favorite?

Posted by: BelieveMeOrNot | January 8, 2011 5:34 PM | Report abuse

From a classmate of Laughner:

"As I knew him he was left wing, quite liberal. & oddly obsessed with the 2012 prophecy."

http://twitter.com/caitieparker

Posted by: kpres | January 8, 2011 5:32 PM | Report abuse

Time to prosecute this guy under 18 USC 1114 (especially for killing a federal judge) and all related statutes.

Posted by: jcbcmb68 | January 8, 2011 5:26 PM | Report abuse

"Now, until we know why, WE DON'T KNOW WHY!"

I thought the entire gist of the comments from leftists was to blame the right for this shooting.
Now that we learn that this guy is a God-hating Communist, with an affinity for Hitler's National Socialist Party, we should wait "until we know why".

Typical leftist hypocrisy

Posted by: MrMeaner | January 8, 2011 5:25 PM | Report abuse

I see alot of posts by a guy named "dicksucker". Couldn't have said it better myself. No, wait: how about "multipledickssucker"? Yea, that's more like it. Anyway, an obvious coward with issues to boot. Hey, and I know you're reading this. Don't bother to reply, cause I'm not wasting any more time on you.

Posted by: ESTEELE25 | January 8, 2011 5:23 PM | Report abuse

These nasty diatribes need to stop and now. People need to take a deep breath, calm down and think before writing any of their feelings.

Horrible comments and reactions on all sides are helping make this situation and many blog spots to spin out of control.

Enough of this behavior. It is not helpful to read nor to write.

Posted by: vals-gal | January 8, 2011 5:22 PM | Report abuse

It WASN'T Democrats showing up at town hall meetings with fire arms! It wasn't democrats talking about "Don't retreat, Reload! It wasn't Democrats putting up websites with the opposition party in the crosshairs! It wasn't Democrats taking about Second Amendment remedies and it wasn't Democrats taking about watering the tree of liberty with blood! So please don't act like it's a big leap to make the connection! Now, until we know why, WE DON'T KNOW WHY! But please don't act like people are crazy for making the connection!

Posted by: Angryman | January 8, 2011 5:12 PM |

Maybe so, but it is always the leftists who show up with loaded guns, and pulling the triggers, and assassinating political figures, and innocent bystanders.

Posted by: hared | January 8, 2011 5:21 PM | Report abuse

These nasty diatribes need to stop and now. People need to take a deep breath, calm down and think before writing any of their feelings.

Horrible comments and reactions on all sides are helping make this situation and many blog spots to spin out of control.

Enough of this behavior. It is not helpful to read nor to write.

Posted by: vals-gal | January 8, 2011 5:21 PM | Report abuse

For those on the right offering "prayers" for Giffords, are they the same prayers noted in the popular "Pray for Democrats - Psalm 109:8-15" bumper stickers and tee shirts that I saw during the election? Seems like your prayers have been answered.

Posted by: rjohnson5 | January 8, 2011 5:19 PM | Report abuse

For those on the right offering "prayers" for Giffords, are they the same prayers noted in the popular "Pray for Democrats - Psalm 109:8-15" bumper stickers and tee shirts that I saw during the election? Seems like your prayers have been answered.

Posted by: rjohnson5 | January 8, 2011 5:17 PM | Report abuse

It WASN'T Democrats showing up at town hall meetings with fire arms! It wasn't democrats talking about "Don't retreat, Reload! It wasn't Democrats putting up websites with the opposition party in the crosshairs! It wasn't Democrats taking about Second Amendment remedies and it wasn't Democrats taking about watering the tree of liberty with blood! So please don't act like it's a big leap to make the connection! Now, until we know why, WE DON'T KNOW WHY! But please don't act like people are crazy for making the connection!

Posted by: Angryman | January 8, 2011 5:12 PM | Report abuse

i don't think Gabby will ever be the same, if she lives.


Posted by: TheBabeNemo | January 8, 2011 5:10 PM | Report abuse

The only violence at Tea Party events were perpetuated against the Tea Party by SEIU Union goons, all Democrats.

The shooter's favorite book was the Communist Manifesto.

Maybe it is time for the Left to quit obsessing about those who disagree with them and look at themselves.

After years of vile hatred of Bush, Cheney and all Republicans, the Tea Party and any one else who disagrees with you, you castigate the Right for doing far less. Your jumping to conclusions and the hatred you expressed here, without a shred of evidence, is far worse than anything those whom you complain about have ever said or done.

I, and others, await your apologies.

Meanwhile, Why don't we pray and think about the Congresswoman and for all the others killed and injured?

Posted by: kctaz | January 8, 2011 5:07 PM | Report abuse

During the fall campaign, Sarah Palin, the former Republican vice-presidential candidate, posted a controversial map on her Facebook page depicting spots where Democrats were running for re-election; those Democrats were noted by crosshairs symbols like those seen through the scope of a gun. Ms. Giffords was among those on Ms. Palin’s map.

Posted by: frankbrit1 | January 8, 2011 5:06 PM | Report abuse

The liberal HATRED here is as deep and BAD as the LEFT WING shooter's was. This is a tragedy CAUSED by a LIBERAL. A LEFT WING LIBERAL.

It becomes obvious that liberalism, and their deep hatred, is a MENTAL DISORDER.

Posted by: arfywarfy | January 8, 2011 5:04 PM | Report abuse

Representative Gabrielle Giffords was one of many Democrats that appeared on a map of the US on Sarah Palin's political action committee with cross hairs on their faces. It was scrubbed today!

Posted by: FoundingMother | January 8, 2011 5:01 PM | Report abuse

"Cry me a river" - Leonard Pitts

Posted by: dicksucker | January 8, 2011 4:58 PM | Report abuse

"Federal law enforcement sources say John M. Roll, the chief U.S. District judge in Arizona, was shot and killed."

And having helped MURDER a federal judge, the Republican-Tea Party in Congress will now block the appointment of a new judge.

Posted by: jjedif | January 8, 2011 4:57 PM | Report abuse

in 1997, we had a City Councilwomen shot at a meeting. The guy was mad because she voted to fund the Bank One Ballpark (now Chase Field) where the diamondbacks play.
carried a gun in a paper sack and shot her in the side. she survived and is still serving as a councilwomen.

so it isn't the first time in Arizona that we had a crazy person loose.

President is speaking.....

Posted by: TheBabeNemo | January 8, 2011 4:48 PM | Report abuse

The Tea Party has been threatening to commit acts of terrorism...and I guess now they are following through on their threats.

Posted by: jjedif | January 8, 2011 4:47 PM | Report abuse

It has been reported that the shooter's favorite books were Mein Kampf, and The Communist Manifesto.

Definitely a leftist.

As if there were any doubt

Posted by: MrMeaner | January 8, 2011 4:44 PM | Report abuse

It is kind of ridiculous to see all the people here using the act of an unstable individual to paint millions with broad brush strokes.

Here is a link to the shooter's Youtube Channel. It seems that they young man had some issues

http://www.youtube.com/user/Classitup10


Posted by: sombreropoint38 | January 8, 2011 4:43 PM | Report abuse


you know,
the doctor says he optimistic about her recovery. but, in reality, what is he going to say. Of course he will say he's optimistic. He's a doctor. And surgery was considered a success...but the next 24 hours will be important.

one wonders what damage has been done. following commands means she is "connecting the dots" with brain wave activity. but it may not last because of the swelling of the brain that will occur. so they are watching the swelling of the brain.
if it occurs, they may have to have a second operation to relieve it.

oh, the child...conflicting reports....first they said 9 years old.
now it's 9 month baby....


Posted by: TheBabeNemo | January 8, 2011 4:41 PM | Report abuse

Whether you are "right" or wrong, you cannot deny the atomosphere of hate surronding our political process over the past 2 years, and that hate was stirred by many voices on the right.

Posted by: JohnDinHouston | January 8, 2011 4:33 PM


...and just as many if not more from the left, a left which has a long tragic history of political assassination in this country.

Posted by: hared | January 8, 2011 4:39 PM | Report abuse

It's about time white people started fighting back.

Posted by: dicksucker | January 8, 2011 4:38 PM | Report abuse

Sad that these Democrats like this Linda Lopez of Arizona is implicating the Tea Party to this crime, seems a weak attempt at shifting blame and scapegoating political opposition. Anyone who comes out and alleges responsibility upon someone for this act is using this as political theater, and outright demagoguery.
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I agree doesn't make any differnce to this LOPEZ that there were people that DIED as long as she can get a dig in at the T.E.A. PARTY who BTW are the Majority who are praying for Gabby's recovery.. well they belong to the T.E.A. party.. the rest are just trying to blame someone..don't care about the victims

Posted by: lcky9 | January 8, 2011 4:21 PM | Report abuse

no, No, NO. You don't get to get away with it, not this time, no freaking way.

If you can tell me that people bringing guns to political events, Republican LEADERS talking about excercising your "2nd Amendment Right", and when folks on the "right" side of issues continually mention the old statment about the tree of liberty being refreshed by blood does NOT create a dangerous atmosphere where an impressionable person would seek to kill an elected official, when you can do that, you can act like the bully in elementary school saying, "who, me?"

Until then you have to wear this mantle. I don't understand the reason for the virulent hatred towards President Obama, I don't care.

It is quite probable that this person is an unbalanced individual whose actions probably are related to political activity on Mars.

However - NO, a thousand times NO - you don't get away with it. How dare you? Those that went to rallys in 2008 where you cheered virulent attacks on the President, those that supported all of the poison posted on the internet about the left and President Obama, you don't get away with it.

You painted this picture with your aggressive words so you have to wear this yoke around your neck.

Whether you are "right" or wrong, you cannot deny the atomosphere of hate surronding our political process over the past 2 years, and that hate was stirred by many voices on the right.

Posted by: JohnDinHouston | January 8, 2011 4:35 PM | Report abuse

Can we use this incident to at least realize that EVERYBODY, LEFT, RIGHT and CENTER needs to dial it down? Violence is NOT the answer to Political Discourse! And at the end of the day, we are ALL HUMAN BEINGS and we should treat each other accordingly!!

Posted by: Angryman | January 8, 2011 4:19 PM | Report abuse


Agreed. But unfortunately these mindless sheep get all caught up in Limbaugh/Olberman nonsense and BS. Most in our society are incapable of thinking for themselves, they need to be told by Fox News or CNN how to think. When this happens with someone who loses sense of reality, this is what happens.

Unfortunately these dopes are breeding, so it won't end anytime soon.

Posted by: RobInVaBeach | January 8, 2011 4:35 PM | Report abuse

Can we use this incident to at least realize that EVERYBODY, LEFT, RIGHT and CENTER needs to dial it down? Violence is NOT the answer to Political Discourse! And at the end of the day, we are ALL HUMAN BEINGS and we should treat each other accordingly!!

Posted by: Angryman | January 8, 2011 4:19 PM | Report abuse


Agreed. But unfortunately these mindless sheep get all caught up in Limbaugh/Olberman nonsense and BS. Most in our society are incapable of thinking for themselves, they need to be told by Fox News or CNN how to think. When this happens with someone who loses sense of reality, this is what happens.

Unfortunately these dopes are breeding, so it won't end anytime soon.

Posted by: RobInVaBeach | January 8, 2011 4:33 PM | Report abuse

and I was having a good day until 10AM stupid AZ time...

Posted by: TheBabeNemo | January 8, 2011 4:33 PM | Report abuse

Sad that these Democrats like this Linda Lopez of Arizona is implicating the Tea Party to this crime, seems a weak attempt at shifting blame and scapegoating political opposition. Anyone who comes out and alleges responsibility upon someone for this act is using this as political theater, and outright demagoguery.
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I agree doesn't make any differnce to this LOPEZ that there were people that DIED as long as she can get a dig in at the T.E.A. PARTY who BTW are the Majority who are praying for Gabby's recovery.. well they belong to the T.E.A. party.. the rest are just trying to blame someone..don't care about the victims

Posted by: lcky9 | January 8, 2011 4:21 PM | Report abuse

no, No, NO. You don't get to get away with it, not this time, no freaking way.

If you can tell me that people bringing guns to political events, Republican LEADERS talking about excercising your "2nd Amendment Right", and when folks on the "right" side of issues continually mention the old statment about the tree of liberty being refreshed by blood does NOT create a dangerous atmosphere where an impressionable person would seek to kill an elected official, when you can do that, you can act like the bully in elementary school saying, "who, me?"

Until then you have to wear this mantle. I don't understand the reason for the virulent hatred towards President Obama, I don't care.

It is quite probable that this person is an unbalanced individual whose actions probably are related to political activity on Mars.

However - NO, a thousand times NO - you don't get away with it. How dare you? Those that went to rallys in 2008 where you cheered virulent attacks on the President, those that supported all of the poison posted on the internet about the left and President Obama, you don't get away with it.

You painted this picture with your aggressive words so you have to wear this yoke around your neck.

Whether you are "right" or wrong, you cannot deny the atomosphere of hate surronding our political process over the past 2 years, and that hate was stirred by many voices on the right.

Posted by: JohnDinHouston | January 8, 2011 4:33 PM | Report abuse

Utt ohh, just showed a picture of the shooter and he looks like a Libertarian Skinhead.

Posted by: WmLaney | January 8, 2011 4:32 PM | Report abuse

CORRECTION TO MY POST: My post was made from my blackberry and I meant to write "NANCY PELOSI". I did not realize the spell check did not recognize the word PELOSI and another word was posted. I meant no disrespect to Congresswoman Pelosi. Also, the website froze up several times and it inadvertently published my post twice.

Posted by: USAFsacVET | January 8, 2011 4:31 PM | Report abuse

CORRECTION TO MY POST: My post was made from my blackberry and I meant to write "NANCY PELOSI". I did not realize the spell check did not recognize the word PELOSI and another word was posted. I meant no disrespect to Congresswoman Pelosi. Also, the website froze up several times and it inadvertently published my post twice.

Posted by: USAFsacVET | January 8, 2011 4:30 PM | Report abuse


yes, a disgrace to the state of Arizona

seems we have many of them.....

Posted by: TheBabeNemo | January 8, 2011 4:27 PM | Report abuse


"I was a Gov/Pol major at Maryland and I was intrigued by Germany in the 30's... specifically how such a civilized people could turn into monsters against their fellow man. I even moved there and lived for several years still trying to understand, visiting concentration camps and museums and talking with people. Nationalism and single-party "democracy" with heavy handed propaganda was what I came up with and somebody has decided that can work here as well. "

Posted by: WmLaney | January 8, 2011 4:20 PM | Report abuse

You wasted your time and your money.

Posted by: dicksucker | January 8, 2011 4:23 PM
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I did say Maryland.

Posted by: WmLaney | January 8, 2011 4:27 PM | Report abuse

Since you guys all know why the shooter did this, how about telling us his name or where he is from.

You know, while you guys are just making wild guesses.

Ooooh, I know. You could blame it on Dick Cheney while you are fabricating stuff. That would fit right into your fantasy.

Posted by: bobmoses | January 8, 2011 3:01 PM | Report abuse

Bob, you sounded more intelligent when you were writing

Me Froomkin, Me Hate Bush.
Me Froomkin, Me Hate Bush.
Me Froomkin, Me Hate Bush.
Me Froomkin, Me Hate Bush.
Me Froomkin, Me Hate Bush.
Me Froomkin, Me Hate Bush.
Me Froomkin, Me Hate Bush.

Posted by: Bridge3263 | January 8, 2011 4:25 PM | Report abuse

"You realize "dead to me" is just a statement of disownment." - mason08

Tell that to the left wing extremists ranting about Palin's "target" and "reload" comments...was irony your goal???

===

The two are indeed dissimilar. If you read more, you would realize that subtext is very important. I am uncertain if Sarah Palin realizes the subtext when she uses those words, but Sharon Angle requires no deeper analysis.

Posted by: mason08 | January 8, 2011 4:24 PM | Report abuse

"I was a Gov/Pol major at Maryland and I was intrigued by Germany in the 30's... specifically how such a civilized people could turn into monsters against their fellow man. I even moved there and lived for several years still trying to understand, visiting concentration camps and museums and talking with people. Nationalism and single-party "democracy" with heavy handed propaganda was what I came up with and somebody has decided that can work here as well. "

Posted by: WmLaney | January 8, 2011 4:20 PM | Report abuse

You wasted your time and your money.

Posted by: dicksucker | January 8, 2011 4:23 PM | Report abuse

Sad that these Democrats like this Linda Lopez of Arizona is implicating the Tea Party to this crime, seems a weak attempt at shifting blame and scapegoating political opposition. Anyone who comes out and alleges responsibility upon someone for this act is using this as political theater, and outright demagoguery.
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I agree doesn't make any differnce to this LOPEZ that there were people that DIED as long as she can get a dig in at the T.E.A. PARTY who BTW are the Majority who are praying for Gabby's recovery.. well they belong to the T.E.A. party.. the rest are just trying to blame someone..don't care about the victims

Posted by: lcky9 | January 8, 2011 4:21 PM | Report abuse

How's that "redistribution of wealth" going for ya now, communists?

Posted by: dicksucker | January 8, 2011 3:37 PM | Report abuse
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I was a Gov/Pol major at Maryland and I was intrigued by Germany in the 30's... specifically how such a civilized people could turn into monsters against their fellow man. I even moved there and lived for several years still trying to understand, visiting concentration camps and museums and talking with people. Nationalism and single-party "democracy" with heavy handed propaganda was what I came up with and somebody has decided that can work here as well.

Posted by: WmLaney | January 8, 2011 4:20 PM | Report abuse

Can we use this incident to at least realize that EVERYBODY, LEFT, RIGHT and CENTER needs to dial it down? Violence is NOT the answer to Political Discourse! And at the end of the day, we are ALL HUMAN BEINGS and we should treat each other accordingly!!

Posted by: Angryman | January 8, 2011 4:19 PM | Report abuse


the lousy shooter is being reported as
21 years of age.

WTF.....a young punk

Posted by: TheBabeNemo | January 8, 2011 4:17 PM | Report abuse

it will be a miracle if she survives....

following commands is what the doctor said....and that is good. but, and it is sad, it may not last.

i hope she doesn't fall into a coma and becomes brain dead.

Posted by: TheBabeNemo | January 8, 2011 4:13 PM | Report abuse

I live in Rep. Giffords' district. I did not agree with most of her positions and did not vote for her. That being said, people who take the act of a demented individual and try to paint others (conservative of liberal) with a large, sweeping brushstroke are simpletons. Let's pray for the victims and their families. This is act was a despicable one, and it is a sad day for all of us.

Posted by: sombreropoint38
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I totally agree!! On a side note: This is how minorities feel every day!!

Posted by: Angryman | January 8, 2011 4:10 PM | Report abuse

Some of the comments posted here are as horrific as the event itself. The notion that anyone is "giddy" over the shooting of any elected official is abhorrent. This woman was actually meeting with the people for whom she represents. She recently went against her own party by not voting for Nancy Pelvis as Senate Minority Leader. She is the only member of Congress who is married to an Active Duty Military Officer. This is a NATIONAL TRAGEDY that goes beyond Party lines. Anyone who can't see that is a cold-hearted imbecile. This woman was shot in the head at point blank range and may die. We know that multiple fatalities have been reported and despite the political rhetoric the whole Nation will mourn her loss.

Posted by: USAFsacVET | January 8, 2011 4:09 PM | Report abuse

Some of the comments posted here are as horrific as the event itself. The notion that anyone is "giddy" over the shooting of any elected official is abhorrent. This woman was actually meeting with the people for whom she represents. She recently went against her own party by not voting for Nancy Pelvis as Senate Minority Leader. She is the only member of Congress who is married to an Active Duty Military Officer. This is a NATIONAL TRAGEDY that goes beyond Party lines. Anyone who can't see that is a cold-hearted imbecile. This woman was shot in the head at point blank range and may die. We know that multiple fatalities have been reported and despite the political rhetoric the whole Nation will mourn her loss.

Posted by: USAFsacVET | January 8, 2011 4:09 PM | Report abuse

Sad that these Democrats like this Linda Lopez of Arizona is implicating the Tea Party to this crime, seems a weak attempt at shifting blame and scapegoating political opposition. Anyone who comes out and alleges responsibility upon someone for this act is using this as political theatre, and outright demagoguery.

Posted by: hared | January 8, 2011 4:08 PM | Report abuse


surgery is done and she can respond to commands...
but she is in IC under lots of drugs of course.

the surgeon is optimistic and will know more within 24 hours.

it was went through her brain. one side to the other..

little girl, 9, has died at the hospital

the only child shot

5 are critical
5 in surgery

10 were taken to University Medical Center.

Posted by: TheBabeNemo | January 8, 2011 4:06 PM | Report abuse

Thank God Giffords is alive and they are optimistic about her recovery!!!!!!!

Posted by: cile92 | January 8, 2011 4:04 PM | Report abuse

The United States government needs to protect the 1st Amendment from the 2nd Amendment?

Posted by: glacy3 | January 8, 2011 4:03 PM | Report abuse

"quoting from the DailyKos, and deliberately misrepresenting what Boy Blue wrote" -cile92

Just like the radical left misrepresents Palin's "target" and "reload" comments???

"person is vowing to no longer volunteer for Giffords nor donate $$$" -cile92

So when mafia types say someone is "dead to me" they really mean they will no longer volunteer and donate $$$???

You are twisting yourself into a logical pretzel. The point was if left wing extremists choose to misrepresent what people on the right say - that sword cuts both ways.

Posted by: LastVisibleDog | January 8, 2011 4:01 PM | Report abuse


drain you....
for sure......
not to mention deputies every other week getting shot.

Posted by: TheBabeNemo | January 8, 2011 3:59 PM | Report abuse

Adios, judge roll.

Join your buddy eduardo kennedy in dante's 9th circle.

Posted by: dicksucker | January 8, 2011 3:58 PM | Report abuse


her District Manager is confirmed dead

Posted by: TheBabeNemo | January 8, 2011 3:56 PM | Report abuse

The cowards name is Jared Laughner!!

Posted by: Angryman | January 8, 2011 3:56 PM | Report abuse

Before you dupes on the left go to apoplectic you may want to check out this post on Daily Kos before it gets scrubbed.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2011/1/6/933828/-My..

Posted by: jonathanj | January 8, 2011 3:56 PM | Report abuse

Acts of lethal violence do not result from wackiness. They are a behavioral chacteristic of our species, and of our close relatives among the great apes. On a positive note, a countervailing characteristic of our species is an interest in developing and enforcing complicated written laws, such as those that regulate the availability of weapons.

As to whether Democrats or Republins are more homicidal, it's self evident that there is no difference as evident in their mutual support for the current wars.....

Posted by: dreevesx | January 8, 2011 3:55 PM | Report abuse

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Arizona...the wild wild west......


Every GOP, Right Wing Nutjob and Libertarians paradise.


People die while waiting for transplants. Congressmembers die while talking to constituents. Concealed weapons are legal in bars with no background checks on the owners. All brown skinned people are illegal immigrants or Muslims. (both BAD)


Bristol Palin and her idiot family should fit in very well there.

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Posted by: DrainYou | January 8, 2011 3:54 PM | Report abuse

bellsauf:

You think that it is a good idea to have speech police because of one wacko? I am a conservative. I go to Tea Party events. I renounce acts such as this for what they are: evil, despicable, senseless and profoundly un-American. No matter what one's politics may be, this is an outrage, and cause for profound sadness.

Posted by: sombreropoint38 | January 8, 2011 3:53 PM | Report abuse

tb1982:

Of all the lunacy, your is the worst. You want to shut everyone else up. You and the gunman who shot the congresswoman have something in common.

Posted by: xdream1 | January 8, 2011 3:53 PM | Report abuse

"You realize "dead to me" is just a statement of disownment." - mason08

Tell that to the left wing extremists ranting about Palin's "target" and "reload" comments...was irony your goal???


Posted by: LastVisibleDog | January 8, 2011 3:52 PM | Report abuse

Image from Sarah Palin's Facebook page with cross hair on states and her targets including Gabrielle Giffords

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash1/hs454.ash1/24972_382925783587_24718773587_3655178_2736968_n.jpg

Of course if the shooter ends up to be a Palin follower, Palin can claim ignorance and one could not argue she would be wrong.

Posted by: rcc_2000 | January 8, 2011 3:52 PM | Report abuse

And we are making fun of Pakistan?!

Posted by: ridagana | January 8, 2011 3:50 PM | Report abuse

THANK GOD!! She is expected to pull through according the MSNBC!!

Posted by: Angryman | January 8, 2011 3:50 PM | Report abuse

i agree

you do not want to come to this state.

Posted by: TheBabeNemo | January 8, 2011 3:49 PM | Report abuse

leave it to the post to fan a flame if it looks like you can go after conservatives. You didn't do this even after the motive was known in the mass killing at Fort. Hood. So without knowing anything you speak of only violence against Dems. Is Milbank behind this article. This paper makes me sick.Maybe the person was a criminal so I guess did Jeanne Dixon the soothsayer rise from the dead to tell you the motive was about health care. She used to be a republican and was a blue dog Dem., someone the Post would love to villify.

Posted by: averageguy51 | January 8, 2011 3:48 PM | Report abuse

Looks like a Republican Tea Partier re-loaded and then unloaded.

Sarah Palin - Mission Accomplished.

Posted by: glacy3 | January 8, 2011 3:48 PM | Report abuse

I'm from Canada and my 2 sons 18 and 20 are at a swimming training camp right now in Florida. They were scheduled to go to Arizona later this year.

There is no way i the world I am letting them go there untill after your "civil war" has ended.

In Canada, our politicians may not be perfect but it's no reason for us to go out and blindly shooting out people in the street.

Good Luck, you'll need it.

Posted by: Luc1 | January 8, 2011 3:47 PM | Report abuse


well, it is now 18 shot, not 15
6 have died...
don't know if Gabby is dead or not.

But a shot, point blank to the head
is not good.

Hospital supposed to be talking to press but it's been delayed I heard.

Posted by: TheBabeNemo | January 8, 2011 3:46 PM | Report abuse

Looks like a Republican Tea Partier re-loaded and then unloaded.

Sarah Palin - Mission Accomplished.

Posted by: glacy3 | January 8, 2011 3:46 PM | Report abuse

All you Right Wingers, quoting from the DailyKos, and deliberately misrepresenting what Boy Blue wrote by taking it out of context. If you had read the whole entry, person is vowing to no longer volunteer for Giffords nor donate $$$.

Posted by: cile92 | January 8, 2011 3:46 PM | Report abuse

"The shooter is another Tea Party lunatic. Hope they and the GOP are happy as they turn the US into a banana republic".
__________________________________________

More stupidity. We could go tit for tat with nut jobs on all sides of the political spectrum.

Posted by: sombreropoint38 | January 8, 2011 3:44 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: bobmoses
Another tolerant liberal. We all have so much to learn from you hypocrites.

_______________________________________________

Another ignorant right wing lunatic. Your fellow imbecile's tag is "dicksucker", moron. Posting juvenile non factual responses seems to be you forte, It's a pity you are too mentally challenged to post an original comment, but you are good for laughing at. Save you deluded BS. The GOP created hypocrisy. Get with the program.

Posted by: AugustWest1 | January 8, 2011 3:43 PM | Report abuse

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"Republicans don't retreat, they reload" - Sarah Palin


"Americans (Republicans) are going to have to start using 2nd Amendment remedies if the voters don't get it right." - Sharron Angle


ENOUGH SAID...!


CONGRATULATIONS REPUBLICAN/TEABAGGER DOMESTIC TERRORISTS!!!


ALL YOUR HARD WORK PAID OFF TODAY, YOU FINALLY HAVE DEMOCRATIC BLOOD ON YOUR HANDS!!!

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Posted by: DrainYou | January 8, 2011 3:39 PM | Report abuse

Nparry - The person responsible is the person who pulled the trigger.

Posted by: Bevhome | January 8, 2011 3:38 PM | Report abuse

This is a tragedy, not only for Congreswoman Gifford and her family, but for the people of Arizona and the nation. It is important that politicians in general and those in congress in particular take the lead in presenting their view points in tone and tenure that is conducive to courtesy and good manners. We don't need anymore Joe Wilson's rudely interrupting the president at the State of the Union. This type of rude behavior encourages the nuts and gives them license to violent acts as we have witnessed today.

Posted by: Listening2 | January 8, 2011 3:38 PM | Report abuse

Nparry - The person responsible is the person who pulled the trigger.

Posted by: Bevhome | January 8, 2011 3:37 PM | Report abuse

I, an Arizonan, do not feel ashamed or guilty for this. Neither I nor Arizona are responsible for this tragedy nor is anyone else except the nut case who shot her.

The comments on this web site are disgraceful. You who decry hatred are full of it and are behaving in an insane manner. We don't know who shot her or why, period.

She was the first Jewish Congressperson from AZ. Besides the usual suspects, you had only to read the comments on the Daily Koss about Lieberman when he ran as an Independent to know that hatred of Jews is alive and well on the Left as well as in other quarters.

The people on this site, without any evidence, blaming anyone is irrational and beyond the pale. No matter the motive, if any rational motive exists, no one but the shooter is responsible.

Posted by: kctaz | January 8, 2011 3:37 PM | Report abuse

How's that "redistribution of wealth" going for ya now, communists?

Posted by: dicksucker | January 8, 2011 3:37 PM | Report abuse

Not to be a whiner but I find the total lack of information to be curious in a free society. It kinda resembles 911 in that the press is left to speculate whether a plane accidently hit a building and what seems random here may be occurring around the nation. I'm just surprised Fatherland Security has not taken the lead to take control from the bobble heads at Fox entertainment or Chicken Noodle News (CNN).

Posted by: WmLaney | January 8, 2011 3:29 PM | Report abuse

REALLY!? Do you think that every time something dramatic happens in this country that there is some kind of news "assembly line" that reports all facts in a timely fashion?

Your comment demonstrates an extreme level of paranoia, much more so than any analysis of our government would support

Posted by: JohnDinHouston | January 8, 2011 3:37 PM | Report abuse

Not to be a whiner but I find the total lack of information to be curious in a free society. It kinda resembles 911 in that the press is left to speculate whether a plane accidently hit a building and what seems random here may be occurring around the nation. I'm just surprised Fatherland Security has not taken the lead to take control from the bobble heads at Fox entertainment or Chicken Noodle News (CNN).

Posted by: WmLaney | January 8, 2011 3:29 PM | Report abuse

REALLY!? Do you think that every time something dramatic happens in this country that there is some kind of news "assembly line" that reports all facts in a timely fashion?

Your comment demonstrates an extreme level of paranoia, much more so than any analysis of our government would support

Posted by: JohnDinHouston | January 8, 2011 3:36 PM | Report abuse

Not to be a whiner but I find the total lack of information to be curious in a free society. It kinda resembles 911 in that the press is left to speculate whether a plane accidently hit a building and what seems random here may be occurring around the nation. I'm just surprised Fatherland Security has not taken the lead to take control from the bobble heads at Fox entertainment or Chicken Noodle News (CNN).

Posted by: WmLaney | January 8, 2011 3:29 PM | Report abuse

REALLY!? Do you think that every time something dramatic happens in this country that there is some kind of news "assembly line" that reports all facts in a timely fashion?

Your comment demonstrates an extreme level of paranoia, much more so than any analysis of our government would support

Posted by: JohnDinHouston | January 8, 2011 3:36 PM | Report abuse

Not to be a whiner but I find the total lack of information to be curious in a free society. It kinda resembles 911 in that the press is left to speculate whether a plane accidently hit a building and what seems random here may be occurring around the nation. I'm just surprised Fatherland Security has not taken the lead to take control from the bobble heads at Fox entertainment or Chicken Noodle News (CNN).

Posted by: WmLaney | January 8, 2011 3:29 PM | Report abuse

REALLY!? Do you think that every time something dramatic happens in this country that there is some kind of news "assembly line" that reports all facts in a timely fashion?

Your comment demonstrates an extreme level of paranoia, much more so than any analysis of our government would support

Posted by: JohnDinHouston | January 8, 2011 3:36 PM | Report abuse

Not to be a whiner but I find the total lack of information to be curious in a free society. It kinda resembles 911 in that the press is left to speculate whether a plane accidently hit a building and what seems random here may be occurring around the nation. I'm just surprised Fatherland Security has not taken the lead to take control from the bobble heads at Fox entertainment or Chicken Noodle News (CNN).

Posted by: WmLaney | January 8, 2011 3:29 PM | Report abuse

REALLY!? Do you think that every time something dramatic happens in this country that there is some kind of news "assembly line" that reports all facts in a timely fashion?

Your comment demonstrates an extreme level of paranoia, much more so than any analysis of our government would support

Posted by: JohnDinHouston | January 8, 2011 3:36 PM | Report abuse

Not to be a whiner but I find the total lack of information to be curious in a free society. It kinda resembles 911 in that the press is left to speculate whether a plane accidently hit a building and what seems random here may be occurring around the nation. I'm just surprised Fatherland Security has not taken the lead to take control from the bobble heads at Fox entertainment or Chicken Noodle News (CNN).

Posted by: WmLaney | January 8, 2011 3:29 PM | Report abuse

REALLY!? Do you think that every time something dramatic happens in this country that there is some kind of news "assembly line" that reports all facts in a timely fashion?

Your comment demonstrates an extreme level of paranoia, much more so than any analysis of our government would support

Posted by: JohnDinHouston | January 8, 2011 3:36 PM | Report abuse

Not to be a whiner but I find the total lack of information to be curious in a free society. It kinda resembles 911 in that the press is left to speculate whether a plane accidently hit a building and what seems random here may be occurring around the nation. I'm just surprised Fatherland Security has not taken the lead to take control from the bobble heads at Fox entertainment or Chicken Noodle News (CNN).

Posted by: WmLaney | January 8, 2011 3:29 PM | Report abuse

REALLY!? Do you think that every time something dramatic happens in this country that there is some kind of news "assembly line" that reports all facts in a timely fashion?

Your comment demonstrates an extreme level of paranoia, much more so than any analysis of our government would support

Posted by: JohnDinHouston | January 8, 2011 3:36 PM | Report abuse

Briefing is about to start

Posted by: Falling4Ever | January 8, 2011 3:36 PM | Report abuse

I just sent the following to blogs@washingtonpost.com. If you agree, feel free to copy and send as well.

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To Whom It May Concern at the Washington Post:

I am truly disturbed and appalled that your publication would enable the general public to post comments in response to the article on the death of Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords, particularly when the Post cannot possibly monitor posts being loaded at rapid fire which obviously violate the Post's abuse policy. Specifically, "By submitting content, you are consenting to these rules: 1. You agree not to submit inappropriate content. Inappropriate content includes any content that: ...contains or advocates illegal or violent acts...is predatory, hateful, or intended to intimidate or harass...."

Although the Post cannot keep people from voicing their opinions and the public will have the opportunity to post whatever they will in subsequent articles or on their own facebook or twitter pages, I feel that it is incredibly disrespectful to enable this feature at the present time when people are first learning about this tragedy. When your publication posted an article about the loss of Elizabeth Edwards, I was initially saddened that I could not share my sympathies but understood that the Post likely disabled the comment feature out of respect for the family. I highly suggest you do the same for the family of Congresswoman Giffords.

Regards,
[Name]
A Washington Post Subscriber and Reader

Posted by: tb1982 | January 8, 2011 3:35 PM | Report abuse

Seriously, how sad of a day it is when the first thing liberals do is attack conservatives for the attack.

It seems our nation has degraded far past political differences. The hate that is being thrown around by both sides is pushing our great country in an irreversable direction of collapse.

First, liberals should be ashamed of themselves for even thinking of making this a political argument and blame conversatives.

Second, Conversatives need to take a higher road and not fall into the trap that liberals are trying to set. It will not lead to anything productive for our nation.

What a sad, sad stupid group liberals are!

Posted by: sanmateo1850 | January 8, 2011 3:34 PM | Report abuse

This terrible event results from filling ignorant people with hate and giving them guns.

Sadly, unless and until our political discourse improves we can expect more such thuggery. We ought to realize, too, that the right to keep and bear arms does not imply a right to use them to kill those we don't agree with.

Posted by: poor_richard | January 8, 2011 3:34 PM | Report abuse

There is no question that Republicans have encouraged their supporters to disrupt Democratic events, by shouting and rude behavior that shows no respect for the candidates. When you cross the line from civility in order eliminate rational discussion of an issue, some supporters will go too far. Republicans can deny that they wanted this, but can not deny that they intended to destroy rational dialog by force and this is an exception but a predictable one. And for the record, Ronald Reagan was shot (1 Republican) and John Kennedy, Robert Kennedy, Martin Luther King, and Ms. Giffords (4). We know which side is full of hate.

Posted by: harrisonppicot | January 8, 2011 3:33 PM | Report abuse

I live in Rep. Giffords' district. I did not agree with most of her positions and did not vote for her. That being said, people who take the act of a demented individual and try to paint others (conservative of liberal) with a large, sweeping brushstroke are simpletons. Let's pray for the victims and their families. This is act was a despicable one, and it is a sad day for all of us.

Posted by: sombreropoint38 | January 8, 2011 3:32 PM | Report abuse

This is a tragedy, not only for Congreswoman Gifford and her family, but for the people of Arizona and the nation. It is important that politicians in general and those in congress in particular take the lead in presenting their view points in tone and tenure that is conducive to courtesy and good manners. We don't need anymore Joe Wilson's rudely interrupting the president at the State of the Union. This type of rude behavior encourages the nuts and gives them license to violent acts as we have witnessed today.

Posted by: Listening2 | January 8, 2011 3:32 PM | Report abuse

For you left wing nut jobs, the left wing shooter was stopped by a 2nd Amendment protected citizen!

Posted by: Surnbe | January 8, 2011 3:32 PM | Report abuse

"Why do you cling so fearfully to that Stone Age Second Amendment that promises you the means to kill each other?"

You would rather live in a place where a ruling class is armed and everyone else is defenseless...

Posted by: xdream1 | January 8, 2011 3:31 PM | Report abuse

leave it to the post to fan a flame if it looks like you can go after conservatives. You didn't do this even after the motive was known in the mass killing at Fort. Hood. So without knowing anything you speak of only violence against Dems. Is Milbank behind this article. This paper makes me sick.Maybe the person was a criminal so I guess did Jeanne Dixon the soothsayer rise from the dead to tell you the motive was about health care. She used to be a republican and was a blue dog Dem., someone the Post would love to villify.

Posted by: averageguy51 | January 8, 2011 3:18 PM | Report abuse

Well, average guy, most people, if something makes them sick, would probably avoid that thing. That's just me, though.

You also contradict yourself, because first you complain that the Post is "fanning the flames" with their reporting on early incidents affecting the congresswoman, but then you say that "she's just the kind of congress person that the Post would love to vilifY"

Either you can't string a coherent paragraph together, or you have no idea what you are talking about. My bet's on door number two.

But, thank you for putting another piece of the Tea Party puzzle together for me. Based on your comments, you also have issues understanding what you read. Generally speaking this would in some ways explain why the Tea Party generall makes more sense. (I know that you didn't mention the Tea Party, but I suspect your sympathies lie with them)

All that being said, your comments are embarrasing in terms of knowledge and coherence.

My suggestion would be that you might want to go out and learn a little more about journalism and poltics, so at least when you express your anger, it would have the extra added benefit of being supported by the truth.

Posted by: JohnDinHouston | January 8, 2011 3:31 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: RCM5
Oh my God. Left wing radical apprehended in shooting of Congresswoman.
In typical left wing fashion , when they don't get their way resort to violence and blame the right.

Not surprised at all that this Liberal Progressive behaved like a spoiled brat who couldn't get his way.
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Do you always speak such BS. I understand that as a member of the GOP, you are full of BS, but keep it for yourself and your lunatic friends. Reality doesn't agree with your fantasy.

Posted by: AugustWest1 | January 8, 2011 3:30 PM | Report abuse

Not to be a whiner but I find the total lack of information to be curious in a free society. It kinda resembles 911 in that the press is left to speculate whether a plane accidently hit a building and what seems random here may be occurring around the nation. I'm just surprised Fatherland Security has not taken the lead to take control from the bobble heads at Fox entertainment or Chicken Noodle News (CNN).

Posted by: WmLaney | January 8, 2011 3:29 PM | Report abuse

Is this barry X's Oklahoma City?

Posted by: dicksucker | January 8, 2011 3:29 PM | Report abuse

muawiyah-

Gotcha. I prove you wrong. You hurl vile insults. Get a life.

Just to reiterate:
1) You lied, or at the very least dissembled misinformation.
2) I caught you.
3) You have no response.

Posted by: mason08 | January 8, 2011 3:29 PM | Report abuse

test

Posted by: jmpickett | January 8, 2011 3:28 PM | Report abuse

There is absolutely no excuse for the U.S. Capitol Police not provide pro active strategic planning and protection of our Members of Congress when they go out to their public meetings. Shame on the Director of the Capitol Police and Congressional Leaders for allowing this to happen.

Posted by: DanKane

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This happened in Arizona

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Posted by: rcc_2000 | January 8, 2011 3:28 PM | Report abuse

Guilty: Sarah Palin, Just another Charles Manson. This woman should be locked up now.

Posted by: porcelainproductions | January 8, 2011 3:28 PM | Report abuse

Seems the press is withholding the identity and motivation of Giffords' shooter.
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My God, it happened less than two hours ago; we're not even certain of her condition yet. You're jumping to conclusions.

Posted by: VPaterno | January 8, 2011 3:27 PM | Report abuse

Reading through this garbage thrown by both lefties and righties, is why i hate politicians and pundits from both sides, blaming Rush and Beck and Bill O is stupid. I see why our youth is so f-ed up. Grow up you immature d-bags and t-bags...

Posted by: 1saneamongthestupid | January 8, 2011 3:27 PM | Report abuse

Can we please not equate political debate with murder, and apprehend, bring to justice, and attribute this heinous action to the actual shooter ? And then focus on the efficiency of the legal process in prosecuting this crime ? POST - please report on the efforts to apprehend the criminal.

Posted by: genefitzhugh | January 8, 2011 3:27 PM | Report abuse

Seems like the Lefties are the ones with the body counts:
Leftist Biology teacher, obsessed with Obama, shoots colleagues:
http://www.themoneytimes.com/featured/20100213/biology-professor-shoots-colleagues-uahuntsville-3-killed-id-10100362.html
Lefty rails against the wealthy, shoots up school board meeting:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/12/15/AR2010121503060.html
Lefty blames Bush and wealthy, crashes plane into building:
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/02/19/us/19crash.html
I guarantee if this is a Lefty who did this the story will disappear from the front pages the same day.


Posted by: Coolreasoning | January 8, 2011 3:27 PM | Report abuse

Hate filled left-wing socialists now assissinating opponents.

DialyKos.com needs to be shut down, MSNBC needs to be shut down. The fundamental transformation of America needs to be stopped, this is what it leads to!

Hate is the sole position of the left!

Posted by: Surnbe | January 8, 2011 3:26 PM | Report abuse

The Tea-Baggers are going to have less government if they have to assassinate our elected representative to obtain it.

Faux News and their in-house minions should be elated.

In Arizona it seems that Barry's mantra is alive and well. "Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice."

Posted by: chamateddy | January 8, 2011 3:25 PM | Report abuse

Is it true former half term Gov. Palin had put on gun target on this Congresswoman, saying Don't Retreat, Reload?

Posted by: BornAgainAmerican | January 8, 2011 3:25 PM | Report abuse

There is absolutely no excuse for the U.S. Capitol Police not provide pro active strategic planning and protection of our Members of Congress when they go out to their public meetings. Shame on the Director of the Capitol Police and Congressional Leaders for allowing this to happen.

Posted by: DanKane1 | January 8, 2011 3:25 PM | Report abuse

Obama issued a statement already?? Usually he can't be bothered with this stuff. I remember no statement on Underwear bomber, and none on Ft. Hood massacre by our own terrorist in the Army.

Posted by: cr10 | January 8, 2011 3:25 PM | Report abuse

Growing up I learned that "free speech" did not include calling "fire" in a crowded movie theatre. I also learned that "free speech" did not include asking for the killing of people on the airwaves. Well, for the past how many years crap like Limbaugh, Beck, and now the Tepid Party have brought their speech to levels of hate, in cases the sanction of killing and violence to the airwaves. Why shouldn't they be taken to legal task over this? What happened here is probably a consequence of this speech behavior and also connected to that Governor who is a really fine nut job. As for Speaker Boehner, the crying one, well, I do not for one second believe his statement of grief. And am curious will he cry over this?

Posted by: jato11 | January 8, 2011 3:24 PM | Report abuse

Growing up I learned that "free speech" did not include calling "fire" in a crowded movie theatre. I also learned that "free speech" did not include asking for the killing of people on the airwaves. Well, for the past how many years crap like Limbaugh, Beck, and now the Tepid Party have brought their speech to levels of hate, in cases the sanction of killing and violence to the airwaves. Why shouldn't they be taken to legal task over this? What happened here is probably a consequence of this speech behavior and also connected to that Governor who is a really fine nut job. As for Speaker Boehner, the crying one, well, I do not for one second believe his statement of grief. And am curious will he cry over this?

Posted by: jato11 | January 8, 2011 3:24 PM | Report abuse

@ NoBama_in_2012,


Too late, Clown.


Crying about what other people do is not going to get you off the hook. The FBI isn't the Rush Limbaugh Show.


And please, keep commenting on WaPo, I want them to be able to bury you when they finally show up at your door.

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Posted by: DrainYou | January 8, 2011 3:24 PM | Report abuse

One less Leftist? Hip hip hooray!

Posted by: wewintheylose1 | January 8, 2011 2:36 PM

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Have you no sense of shame you frothing Liberal troll?

Posted by: Straightline

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Straightline, if you read past posts by wewintheylose1 you will see they are obviously a Tea Party advocate. I suppose Sarron Angle is also a liberal plant with her 2nd Amendment remedies quote. It is not far-fetched that wewintheylose1 is one of yours. And it is not a streatch to assume that the gunman is not one of yours either, but we will see he could just be a nut.

Posted by: rcc_2000 | January 8, 2011 3:23 PM | Report abuse

There is absolutely no excuse for the U.S. Capitol Police not provide pro active strategic planning and protection of our Members of Congress when they go out to their public meetings. Shame on the Director of the Capitol Police and Congressional Leaders for allowing this to happen.

Posted by: DanKane1 | January 8, 2011 3:23 PM | Report abuse

Seems like the Lefties are the ones with the body counts:
Leftist Biology teacher, obsessed with Obama, shoots colleagues:
http://www.themoneytimes.com/featured/20100213/biology-professor-shoots-colleagues-uahuntsville-3-killed-id-10100362.html
Lefty rails against the wealthy, shoots up school board meeting:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/12/15/AR2010121503060.html
Lefty blames Bush and wealthy, crashes plane into building:
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/02/19/us/19crash.html
I guarantee if this is a Lefty who did this the story will disappear from the front pages the same day.

Posted by: Coolreasoning | January 8, 2011 3:23 PM | Report abuse

What is wrong with some of you people?? This woman has a family and did nothing except try to have a meeting with her constituents. Shame on all of you that are blaming the left or the right. She is human being with a family. Quit thinking about yourself and your hated and think about her. I hope that everyone is praying for her and her family during this time. So sad!

Posted by: relldy01 | January 8, 2011 3:23 PM | Report abuse

I am a foreigner looking at the people of the USA through the words posted in this column. Is this a true picture of your country that I read here?

Why do you hate each other so passionately? Why do you take political advantage of one of your own elected representatives while her murdered body is still warm? Why do you cling so fearfully to that Stone Age Second Amendment that promises you the means to kill each other? And why do so many of you kill each other? It seems to me that the real enemies of your dying country are not the foreign powers and terrorists that your political leaders and your industrialists need so badly, but yourselves. God help you all.

Posted by: andro1 | January 8, 2011 3:13 PM |
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Amen. As someone with strong political beliefs myself, but with, I hope, sufficient maturity to refrain from posting them at this tragic and volatile time, I fully concur. I apologize on behalf of my fellow, more rational Americans, and hope your "murdered body" comment regarding the congresswoman indeed turns out to be erroneous.

Posted by: VPaterno | January 8, 2011 3:23 PM | Report abuse

Left wingers across the country ready to blame all conservatives for crazy actions of one sick individual.

Posted by: guest1 | January 8, 2011
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Wow!! I WONDER WHY? Could it be that some of the people REPRESENTING Conservatives have been using all sorts of Gun rhetoric? Even your QUEEN OF THE MORONS Sarah Palin has even had her in the sight of a rifle on her website....So why would Leftwingers as you call them, POSSIBLY THINK A RIGHTWING CONSERVATIVE had something to do with this horror? Huh? Why?

Posted by: Angryman | January 8, 2011 3:22 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: fishman2 | January 8, 2011 3:22 PM | Report abuse

Seems the press is withholding the identity and motivation of Gifford's shooter. Gifford, at the cost of her own life, has become the martyr for the benefit of the Democratic party to shift-blame and project further hatred to the surmounting public opposition to their party. Palin has Gifford in the "cross-hairs," so Gifford has been sacrificed just to create public empathy for the Democratic party.

Gifford was hesitant to participate in the public meeting, in lieu of the vandalism of her offices that same morning. She was coaxed at the national party level to continue, even promised additional protection (which never materialized). There is no coincidence that Obamic media sympathizers are horrified and even irresponsibly hesitant to report their findings. Weird for a free press, really.

But this should come as no surprise for those not under political deception and oppression.

Posted by: micmogen | January 8, 2011 3:22 PM | Report abuse

Score another point for the right-wing hate machine, executing one of the major components of the GOP Playbook:

1. Use apocalyptic rhetoric that exacerbates fear, bigotry and extremism among the uneducated and intolerant.
2. Counter any liberal criticism of your inflammatory calls for action by saying they can't take a joke.
3. Keep turning up the heat and act surprised when somebody finally heeds your calls for extreme action.
4. Be sure to maintain you were only speaking figuratively and you are being unfairly blamed when violence occurs.
5. Keep your celebrations behind closed doors.

Posted by: bpai_99 | January 8, 2011 3:22 PM | Report abuse

Spare us your hypocrisy.

Posted by: bobmoses
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Please tell us Lex Luthor when two wrongs make a right? Even my post about neocon talking heads getting a taste of their own medicine would have the effect of pushing some progressives over the edge. My apologies to those offended.

Posted by: jameschirico | January 8, 2011 3:22 PM | Report abuse

mason08 ~ otherwise he's a leftwingtard and that's about 99% of the profile for this sort of thing.

You guys are on thin ice if you think it's OK to run around and shoot conservatives, whether they are Republicans or Democrats.

It's really not a good idea.

I blame this one on Pelosi for speaking so vilely of and to Conservatives for the last 4 years.

All her fault.

Posted by: muawiyah | January 8, 2011 3:22 PM | Report abuse

Some of the comments posted here are as horrific as the event itself. The notion that anyone is "giddy" over the shooting of any elected official is abhorrent. This woman was actually meeting with the people for whom she represents. She recently went against her own party by not voting for Nancy Pelvis as Senate Minority Leader. She is the only member of Congress who is married to an Active Duty Military Officer. This is a NATIONAL TRAGEDY that goes beyond Party lines. Anyone who can't see that is a cold-hearted imbecile. This woman is dead, and despite the political rhetoric the whole Nation mourns her loss.

Posted by: USAFsacVET | January 8, 2011 3:22 PM | Report abuse

@averageguy51:

Your comments are contemptible. Shame on you.

Posted by: megman | January 8, 2011 3:21 PM | Report abuse

Some of the comments posted here are as horrific as the event itself. The notion that anyone is "giddy" over the shooting of any elected official is abhorrent. This woman was actually meeting with the people for whom she represents. She recently went against her own party by not voting for Nancy Pelvis as Senate Minority Leader. She is the only member of Congress who is married to an Active Duty Military Officer. This is a NATIONAL TRAGEDY that goes beyond Party lines. Anyone who can't see that is a cold-hearted imbecile. This woman is dead, and despite the political rhetoric the whole Nation mourns her loss.

Posted by: USAFsacVET | January 8, 2011 3:21 PM | Report abuse

I just sent the following to blogs@washingtonpost.com. If you agree, feel free to copy and send as well.

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To Whom It May Concern at the Washington Post:

I am truly disturbed and appalled that your publication would enable the general public to post comments in response to the article on the death of Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords, particularly when the Post cannot possibly monitor posts being loaded at rapid fire which obviously violate the Post's abuse policy. Specifically, "By submitting content, you are consenting to these rules: 1. You agree not to submit inappropriate content. Inappropriate content includes any content that: ...contains or advocates illegal or violent acts...is predatory, hateful, or intended to intimidate or harass...."

Although the Post cannot keep people from voicing their opinions and the public will have the opportunity to post whatever they will in subsequent articles or on their own facebook or twitter pages, I feel that it is incredibly disrespectful to enable this feature at the present time when people are first learning about this tragedy. When your publication posted an article about the loss of Elizabeth Edwards, I was initially saddened that I could not share my sympathies but understood that the Post likely disabled the comment feature out of respect for the family. I highly suggest you do the same for the family of Congresswoman Giffords.

Regards,
[Name]
A Washington Post Subscriber and Reader

Posted by: tb1982 | January 8, 2011 3:20 PM | Report abuse

leave it to the post to fan a flame if it looks like you can go after conservatives. You didn't do this even after the motive was known in the mass killing at Fort. Hood. So without knowing anything you speak of only violence against Dems. Is Milbank behind this article. This paper makes me sick.Maybe the person was a criminal so I guess did Jeanne Dixon the soothsayer rise from the dead to tell you the motive was about health care. She used to be a republican and was a blue dog Dem., someone the Post would love to villify.

Posted by: averageguy51 | January 8, 2011 3:20 PM | Report abuse

I've just contaced the FBI about your continued harrassment of Democrats and incitement of would be right wing domestic terrorists, Biff.


You'll be getting a knock on the door very soon.


Your kind of rhetoric and hate has no business being out in the public anymore...


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Posted by: DrainYou
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DrainYou,

I'll give them this...

From the liberal website, Daily Kos:

My CongressWOMAN voted against Nancy Pelosi! And is now DEAD to me!

by BoyBlue
Thu Jan 06, 2011 at 11:07:17 AM PST

I am from the Tucson area and live in Congresswoman, Gabrielle Giffords' district.

....

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2011/1/6/933828/-My..
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In fact, are you BoyBlue?

Posted by: Nobama__in___2012 | January 8, 2011 3:20 PM | Report abuse

The fact-less left better cool their engines. From the ultra-liberal Daily Kos:

"I am from the Tucson area and live in Congresswoman, Gabrielle Giffords' district...today...I saw...that Giffords voted AGAINST Nancy Pelosi as our Minority Leader...Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords is dead to me now."

(Daily Kos, January 6, 2011)

Right now we have evidence someone on the left wished her to be dead two days ago...while I am not going to blame any political party for the action of one crazy person - the left better be careful because their broad-brush cuts both ways.

Posted by: LastVisibleDog | January 8, 2011 3:19 PM | Report abuse

Example of left wing nut job trying to spin the truth. They do not see others are human beings, and are trying to justify thier tyrannical assaults on our lives and liberties!

"I JUST HOPE TO GOD SHARRON ANGLE IS BEING ROUNDED UP AND SENT TO GUANTANAMO POST-HASTE. SHE AND HER TEA PARTIERS CAN TAKE THEIR "SECOND AMENDMENT REMEDIES" AND NURSE ON THEM IN PRISON FOR THE REST OF THEIR ROTTEN MISERABLE LIVES.

OR IS THIS ONE OF GLENN BECK'S TARGETS? HE'S ALREADY GOT A FAN CLUB OF STALKERS THREATENING PEOPLE.

TAKE FOX NEWS OFF THE AIR. IT IS LONG OVERDUE.

Posted by: B2O2 | January 8, 2011 3:15 PM"

Posted by: Surnbe | January 8, 2011 3:19 PM | Report abuse

leave it to the post to fan a flame if it looks like you can go after conservatives. You didn't do this even after the motive was known in the mass killing at Fort. Hood. So without knowing anything you speak of only violence against Dems. Is Milbank behind this article. This paper makes me sick.Maybe the person was a criminal so I guess did Jeanne Dixon the soothsayer rise from the dead to tell you the motive was about health care. She used to be a republican and was a blue dog Dem., someone the Post would love to villify.

Posted by: averageguy51 | January 8, 2011 3:19 PM | Report abuse

Guns is what gave America it's FREEDOM, lawyers is who gave criminals their FREEDOM. If our guns are taken away, more freedoms will be taken away, we will have nothing to take our FREEDOM or our COUNTRY back from the Criminals that is running it. Crimimals need to stopped being protected by lawyers. Criminals have more rights than citizens. It's obvious most Americans doesn't understand how guns gave us our Freedoms the pass 235 years. As criminals are let loose on the streets daily, it encourages most 'igorant' American to want to get rid of guns! It is the court system & lawyers that need to be stopped, not what keeps America Free, guns.

Posted by: ryemil | January 8, 2011 3:19 PM | Report abuse

leave it to the post to fan a flame if it looks like you can go after conservatives. You didn't do this even after the motive was known in the mass killing at Fort. Hood. So without knowing anything you speak of only violence against Dems. Is Milbank behind this article. This paper makes me sick.Maybe the person was a criminal so I guess did Jeanne Dixon the soothsayer rise from the dead to tell you the motive was about health care. She used to be a republican and was a blue dog Dem., someone the Post would love to villify.

Posted by: averageguy51 | January 8, 2011 3:19 PM | Report abuse

Palin put a cross-hairs target on Rep. Gifford last fall. Her office was vandalized and her staff harrassed by Tea Baggers. Now people are dead and injured. How's this neo-fascist thing working out for you, Arizona?

Posted by: BBear1 | January 8, 2011 3:19 PM | Report abuse

Score another point for the right-wing hate machine, executing one of the major components of the GOP Playbook:

1. Use apocalyptic rhetoric that exacerbates fear, bigotry and extremism among the uneducated and intolerant.
2. Counter any liberal criticism of your inflammatory calls for action by saying they can't take a joke.
3. Keep turning up the heat and act surprised when somebody finally heeds your calls for extreme action.
4. Be sure to maintain you were only speaking figuratively and you are being unfairly blamed when violence occurs.
5. Keep your celebrations behind closed doors.

Posted by: bpai_99 | January 8, 2011 3:19 PM | Report abuse

"Fox News claims responsibility for this act of terrorism. Fox News needs to be shut down before more innocents are murdered by them.

Posted by: Maddogg "

Spare us your fear-mongering and hate-incitement, hypocrite.

Posted by: bobmoses | January 8, 2011 3:18 PM | Report abuse

leave it to the post to fan a flame if it looks like you can go after conservatives. You didn't do this even after the motive was known in the mass killing at Fort. Hood. So without knowing anything you speak of only violence against Dems. Is Milbank behind this article. This paper makes me sick.Maybe the person was a criminal so I guess did Jeanne Dixon the soothsayer rise from the dead to tell you the motive was about health care. She used to be a republican and was a blue dog Dem., someone the Post would love to villify.

Posted by: averageguy51 | January 8, 2011 3:18 PM | Report abuse

Dear God,
We lift Rep. Giffords and the others who have been shot to You. Please comfort and keep safe them and their families. Please give the people of Arizona strength and wisdom. We pray for guidance, wisdom, and justice. We pray for truth. We pray that we may find our way to peace, civil government, and sense. Amen.

Posted by: FruitInspector | January 8, 2011 3:17 PM | Report abuse

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CONGRATULATION REPUBLICAN/TEABAGGER DOMESTIC TERRORISTS!!!


ALL YOUR HARD WORK PAID OFF TODAY, YOU FINALLY HAVE DEMOCRATIC BLOOD ON YOUR HANDS!!!


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Posted by: DrainYou
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Its a party tradition they've been carrying on since they started gunning down students back in the Nixon days.

Posted by: GEarlMoo"


Spare us your fear-mongering and hate-incitement, hypocrite.

Posted by: bobmoses | January 8, 2011 3:17 PM | Report abuse

muawiyah/jonathanj

Take that weak sauce somewhere else.

BoyBlue posted here:

http://www.dailykos.com/comments/2011/1/8/13371/41091/236#c236

Posted by: mason08 | January 8, 2011 3:17 PM | Report abuse

Fox News claims responsibility for this act of terrorism. Fox News needs to be shut down before more innocents are murdered by them.

Posted by: Maddogg | January 8, 2011 3:17 PM | Report abuse

robsmarq You are a poor unfortunate name caller and attacker of persons you do not know.

What is it about you folks on the far left that makes your first reaction a personal attack? Please, try to attack the message and not the messenger.

My cogent post stands and you have done nothing to challenge the veracity of my statements. Facts are stubborn things.

Get over yourself and stop paying your shrink, it is not working.

Posted by: LiveFreeOrDie1776 | January 8, 2011 3:17 PM | Report abuse

leave it to Arizona

one fricking messed up state.

Posted by: TheBabeNemo | January 8, 2011 3:17 PM | Report abuse

The mail bombs and this could be a leftist Soros plot to plunge the country into a state of anarchy, so that Obama, Holder and Nepalitano can indefinately declare martial law. It is plausible, just like all the other specualtion here.

Posted by: hared | January 8, 2011 3:17 PM | Report abuse

"Were you given your tag in prison? It suits you sooooooooooooo well. There are a lot of dicks out there, mostly Republican, waiting for you. Get back to work.

Posted by: AugustWest1"

Another tolerant liberal. We all have so much to learn from you hypocrites.

Posted by: bobmoses | January 8, 2011 3:16 PM | Report abuse

Oh my God. Left wing radical apprehended in shooting of Congresswoman.
In typical left wing fashion , when they don't get their way resort to violence and blame the right.

Not surprised at all that this Liberal Progressive behaved like a spoiled brat who couldn't get his way

Posted by: RCM5 | January 8, 2011 3:15 PM | Report abuse

"Republicans don't retreat, they reload" - Sarah Palin


"Americans (Republicans) are going to have to start using 2nd Amendment remedies if the voters don't get it right." - Sharron Angle


ENOUGH SAID...!


CONGRATULATION REPUBLICAN/TEABAGGER DOMESTIC TERRORISTS!!!


ALL YOUR HARD WORK PAID OFF TODAY, YOU FINALLY HAVE DEMOCRATIC BLOOD ON YOUR HANDS!!!


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Posted by: DrainYou
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Its a party tradition they've been carrying on since they started gunning down students back in the Nixon days.

Posted by: GEarlMoore | January 8, 2011 3:15 PM | Report abuse

I JUST HOPE TO GOD SHARRON ANGLE IS BEING ROUNDED UP AND SENT TO GUANTANAMO POST-HASTE. SHE AND HER TEA PARTIERS CAN TAKE THEIR "SECOND AMENDMENT REMEDIES" AND NURSE ON THEM IN PRISON FOR THE REST OF THEIR ROTTEN MISERABLE LIVES.

OR IS THIS ONE OF GLENN BECK'S TARGETS? HE'S ALREADY GOT A FAN CLUB OF STALKERS THREATENING PEOPLE.

TAKE FOX NEWS OFF THE AIR. IT IS LONG OVERDUE.

Posted by: B2O2 | January 8, 2011 3:15 PM | Report abuse

"Only the other day Salmaan Taseer, the governor of Punjab was killed by a funamentalist in Pakistan for his stand for moderation, and now so close to home another Fundamentalist Attacks.

Posted by: wizarat1"

Oh shut up. You have no idea what happened. You just want another excuse to hate people who don't share your narrow minded political views, hypocrite.

Posted by: bobmoses | January 8, 2011 3:15 PM | Report abuse

DrainYou, if you can't see that the post you refer to is a liberal posting as a conservative, you're blind!

Posted by: on6475 | January 8, 2011 3:15 PM | Report abuse

Conspicuously absent from the shout-out is Tommy Hendrecks aka BillCatillion.

Posted by: WmLaney | January 8, 2011 3:15 PM | Report abuse


Posted by: dicksucker
Too bad it wasn't howard dean or al gore. But a demokrat is a demokrat.
____________________________________________________________________________________

Were you given your tag in prison? It suits you sooooooooooooo well. There are a lot of dicks out there, mostly Republican, waiting for you. Get back to work.

Posted by: AugustWest1 | January 8, 2011 3:15 PM | Report abuse

"This is the face of the Tea Party....

Posted by: jromaniello"

Spare us your hate-incitement and fear-mongering hypocrite.

Do you always base your life off of wild assumptions with no facts? You are pathetic.

Posted by: bobmoses | January 8, 2011 3:14 PM | Report abuse

Environmental terrorism, socialists calling for violent revolution, La Raza calling for invasion... The Left is the position of hate. That is why the National Socialist Party existed, you may know it as the NAZI party.

Posted by: Surnbe | January 8, 2011 3:14 PM | Report abuse

This just in:

Dr. Steven Rayle, a former emergency room doctor who now works in a hospice, said that he had witnessed the shootings. He said the congresswoman was standing behind a table outside the Safeway greeting passersby when the gunman approached her from behind, held a gun about a foot from her head and began firing.

. “He must have got off 20 rounds,” he said. Ms. Giffords slumped to the ground and staff members immediately rushed to her aid, Dr. Rayle said.

Dr. Rayle said he performed CPR on some of the victims. He said one of the victims was a young child and appeared to be in critical condition with a gunshot wound.

He said that one of the staffers tackled the gunman and that he and others helped detain the suspect. The doctor described the gunman as a white male in his mid-20s with short hair and “dressed in a shabby manner.”

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/01/09/us/politics/09giffords.html?src=mv

Sounds maybe like the fellow who killed those persons in the US Capital. We won't know the details until the investigation proceeds, but with an intent to kill the Congresswoman, almost all twenty of those shots would likely have landed in her body. "Rational" assassins tend not to shoot small children unless they are relatives of the target.

Posted by: Martial | January 8, 2011 3:14 PM | Report abuse

Nutjob Right-Wingers - this ad from Gifford's opponent Jesse Kelly

"Sat, 6/10/12...Get on target for victory in November Help remove Gabrielle Giffords from office Shoot a fully automatic M16 with Jesse Kelly"


Posted by: cile92 | January 8, 2011 3:04 PM | Report abuse

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Must be nice to see into the future, Nostrodamus. 2012?

Posted by: sorry2say | January 8, 2011 3:14 PM | Report abuse

I am far less afraid of that shooter than I am of some of the people posting on here... Talk about deranged...

dr. o

Posted by: ad4hk2004 | January 8, 2011 3:14 PM | Report abuse

@ Nobama__in___2012,


I've just contaced the FBI about your continued harrassment of Democrats and incitement of would be right wing domestic terrorists, Biff.


You'll be getting a knock on the door very soon.


Your kind of rhetoric and hate has no business being out in the public anymore...


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Posted by: DrainYou | January 8, 2011 3:14 PM | Report abuse

A tragic event. My prayers are with all the victims.

And I'll add...man, most of you commenting are complete idiots. The internet has done nothing but demonstrate that the rather elitist views of the founding fathers as regards the intellectual and moral qualities of most people were quite possibly correct.

Who knows what the shooter's story will turn out to be? But the MO would seem to strongly suggest a 'Taxi Driver' type killing by a mentally deranged individual ala Sirhan Sirhan, John Hinkley, etc.; NOT a truly politically-motivated assassination inspred by Sarah Palin, or whatever. Get a grip, folks.

Posted by: gadstian | January 8, 2011 3:14 PM | Report abuse

I hope and Pray for her survival and speedy recovery.
Only the other day Salmaan Taseer, the governor of Punjab was killed by a funamentalist in Pakistan for his stand for moderation, and now so close to home another Fundamentalist Attacks.

Posted by: wizarat1 | January 8, 2011 3:14 PM | Report abuse

Some of the comments posted here are as horrific as the event itself. The notion that anyone is "giddy" over the shooting of any elected official is abhorrent. This woman was actually meeting with the people for whom she represents. She recently went against her own party by not voting for Nancy Pelvis as Senate Minority Leader. She is the only member of Congress who is married to an Active Duty Military Officer. This is a NATIONAL TRAGEDY that goes beyond Party lines. Anyone who can't see that is a cold-hearted imbecile. This woman is dead, and despite the political rhetoric the whole Nation mourns her loss.

Posted by: USAFsacVET | January 8, 2011 3:14 PM | Report abuse

People are crazy if they think this assassination (attempt?) isn't going to continue to be political. But for now, my thoughts & prayers are with Rep. Giffords & all of those injured or killed, as well as their families & friends. The very least we can do is recognize with horror that regardless of their political affiliations, these were *people* with names & faces & families & lives, & they all died too soon.

Posted by: Kate_B | January 8, 2011 3:14 PM | Report abuse


This is a win for the left! They take out a disloyal Dem and can use the event to rally against guns and conservatives. Way to go Libs!

Posted by: xdream1
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Afraid the shooter is a Democrat.


From the liberal website, Daily Kos:

My CongressWOMAN voted against Nancy Pelosi! And is now DEAD to me!

by BoyBlue
Thu Jan 06, 2011 at 11:07:17 AM PST

I am from the Tucson area and live in Congresswoman, Gabrielle Giffords' district.

....

Posted by: Nobama__in___2012 | January 8, 2011 3:13 PM | Report abuse

Sure, let's leave politics out of this. I'm sure it was random. Or seriously, a liberal just to make conservatives look bad, like they need any help.

http://yfrog.com/h5p7wp

Posted by: SarahBB | January 8, 2011 3:13 PM | Report abuse

allegedly, a Federal Judge was also shot.

Boehner has made a statement.
"sad day for out country"......

Posted by: TheBabeNemo | January 8, 2011 3:13 PM | Report abuse

I hope and Pray for her survival and speedy recovery.
Only the other day Salmaan Taseer, the governor of Punjab was killed by a funamentalist in Pakistan for his stand for moderation, and now so close to home another Fundamentalist Attacks.

Posted by: wizarat1 | January 8, 2011 3:13 PM | Report abuse

Shakespeare wrote "whats past is prologue" If there is any truth to this, this attack was carried out by an anarchist/leftist as was just about every other political attack in this country.

Of course we need to wait and see - and pray for the family - but the droolers need to hold off on blaming Americans for this until more is known about the shooter.

As was demonstrated clearly and convincingly in the last election, the American right changes politics through elections - not violence.


Posted by: VirginiaConservative | January 8, 2011 3:13 PM | Report abuse

Before you dupes on the left go to apoplectic you may want to check out this post on Daily Kos before it gets scrubbed.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2011/1/6/933828/-My..

Posted by: jonathanj | January 8, 2011 3:13 PM | Report abuse

Part-of-the-unwashed--Jesus, I'm so sick of you dumb brainwashed sheep spouting off with your "win back our freedom" nonsense. No other country in the world comes close to matching the level of freedom we have.

Posted by: taonima2000 | January 8, 2011 3:13 PM | Report abuse

Please WAPO shut down this comment section... have some decency.

Posted by: yarbrougharts | January 8, 2011 3:13 PM | Report abuse

I am a foreigner looking at the people of the USA through the words posted in this column. Is this a true picture of your country that I read here?

Why do you hate each other so passionately? Why do you take political advantage of one of your own elected representatives while her murdered body is still warm? Why do you cling so fearfully to that Stone Age Second Amendment that promises you the means to kill each other? And why do so many of you kill each other? It seems to me that the real enemies of your dying country are not the foreign powers and terrorists that your political leaders and your industrialists need so badly, but yourselves. God help you all.

Posted by: andro1 | January 8, 2011 3:13 PM | Report abuse

muawiyah/jonathanj

You realize "dead to me" is just a statement of disownment. If you read the blog, he says he's given lots of time/treasure to get her elected, and that he will do so no longer.

Posted by: mason08 | January 8, 2011 3:12 PM | Report abuse

All the right wing comments here, blaming Obama, ignoring the promotion of violence by Palin, the tea party, and the NRA, illustrate exactly why she was shot.

This is not an isolated incident, as several commenters below note about the repeated threats against Rep. Giffords. Other Democratic legislators have also had death threats, and let's not forget the many tea party types who proudly brought weapons to the town hall meetings.

You can deny any accountability of the Palins, the Angles, and all their ilk as long as you want, but they and all those like them who give a wink and a nod to a climate of violence as a normal response to politics bear direct responsibility.

Posted by: fdell | January 8, 2011 3:12 PM | Report abuse

Some of the comments posted here are as horrific as the event itself. The notion that anyone is "giddy" over the shooting of any elected official is abhorrent. This woman was actually meeting with the people for whom she represents. She recently went against her own party by not voting for Nancy Pelvis as Senate Minority Leader. She is the only member of Congress who is married to an Active Duty Military Officer. This is a NATIONAL TRAGEDY that goes beyond Party lines. Anyone who can't see that is a cold-hearted imbecile. This woman is dead, and despite the political rhetoric the whole Nation mourns her loss.

Posted by: USAFsacVET | January 8, 2011 3:12 PM | Report abuse

A pilot furious with the Internal Revenue Service crashed his small plane into an Austin, Texas, office building where nearly 200 federal tax employees work on Thursday, igniting a raging fire that sent massive plumes of thick, black smoke rising from the seven-story structure.

A 45-year-old parolee, described by his mother as angry at left-wing politicians, opened fire on California Highway Patrol officers on an Oakland freeway early Sunday and was hit by return fire while wearing body armor, authorities said.

An anti-government father and son shoot and kill Two West Memphis police officers during a traffic stop. The Crittenden County Sheriff and the Chief Deputy were shot and injured in a separate shootout with the same suspects. The fallen officers have been identified as Officer Brandon Paudert, son of Police Chief Bob Paudert, and Officer Bill Evans.

58-year-old Jim Adkisson entered the Tennessee Valley Unitarian Universalist Church. In a guitar case, he carried a shotgun and 76 rounds. Adkisson killed two church members and wounded six more before he was wrestled to the ground as he tried to reload. "Adkisson targeted the church, [Investigator Steve Still wrote] 'because of its liberal teachings and his belief that all liberals should be killed because they were ruining the country, and that he felt that the Democrats had tied his country's hands in the war on terror and they had ruined every institution in America with the aid of media outlets.'

The last of nine people indicted in a plot to kill police officers was arrested this evening at a home in Hillsdale County, Mich. The Michigan-based militia was allegedly planning an attack on the U.S.

Posted by: okiedeadhead | January 8, 2011 3:12 PM | Report abuse

This is the face of the Tea Party....

My deepest condolences to the family of Congresswoman Giffords. At least Sarah Palin took her "map" down.

Posted by: jromaniello | January 8, 2011 3:12 PM | Report abuse

"Right that is why she is on Sarah Palin's "Hit List" and why dicksucker wrote "Too bad it wasn't howard dean or al gore. But a demokrat is a demokrat"

Posted by: rcc_2000"

Actually, her district was on a hit list, as she was Democrat in a conservative district. Only closed-minded nitwits would view it as a threat of violence.

And citing a comment from some anonymous loser who appears to be a liberal planting evidence is a joke.

You are a very silly person who is willing to accept very little evidence to support your hateful fantasy. Take the tin foil hat off, son.

Posted by: bobmoses | January 8, 2011 3:11 PM | Report abuse

I hope and Pray for her survival and speedy recovery.
Only the other day Salmaan Taseer, the governor of Punjab was killed by a funamentalist in Pakistan for his stand for moderation, and now so close to home another Fundamentalist Attacks.

Posted by: wizarat1 | January 8, 2011 3:11 PM | Report abuse

And the shooter got away? What happened?

Posted by: glacy3 | January 8, 2011 1:58 PM
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NO!! THEY GOT THE BASTARD!!

Posted by: Angryman | January 8, 2011 3:11 PM | Report abuse

Yep. This is all the TEA party's fault, just like the Austin suicide pilot, Kentucky census worker hoax, Denver Democratic Party offices... oh, wait.

There is only ONE party that has openly advocated violence, told opponents to sit this the back of the bus and asserted that when the "new world order" is finally established care must be taken to ensure their opponents have no say in it.

This is tragedy, and regardless of the shooter's political orientation, the left wing media will make it's political hay... facts be damned.

Posted by: tanksoldier | January 8, 2011 3:11 PM | Report abuse

People are crazy if they think this assassination (attempt?) isn't going to continue to be political. But for now, my thoughts & prayers are with Rep. Giffords & all of those injured or killed, as well as their families & friends. The very least we can do is recognize with horror that regardless of their political affiliations, these were *people* with names & faces & families & lives, & they all died too soon.

Posted by: Kate_B | January 8, 2011 3:11 PM | Report abuse

If we the people don't stand up and do something about this left wing crazies. We need to really start to take this very serious. We need to protest MSNBC news and everybody that support this, I'm so hurt to hear that someone will shot this woman, this mother, this daughter, wife... This American. This is a very sad day! We all know that this wouldn't of happen if MSNBC news and NANCY PELOSI NUT JOBS.

Posted by: fury60 | January 8, 2011 3:10 PM | Report abuse

LiveFreeOrDie1776 --

It's telling that you have to look back 40 years to find an example of domestic left wing groups that used/advocated violence. Since then it's been the right-wing "militias" and "patriots" who have pretty much had a monopoly. And I think this moron today shot more people than Dorn/Ayers et al did over the years of their activity.

Posted by: Cossackathon | January 8, 2011 3:10 PM | Report abuse


conflicting reports of the death....first they confirmed via CNN of Giffords and 6 other dead.

12 have been shot.

The 6 and Giffords are in surgery...
but I don't believe Giffords will make it...
she may already be gone.

Such a nice lady.

21 year old gunman in custody.

Posted by: TheBabeNemo | January 8, 2011 3:10 PM | Report abuse

Fox News claims responsibility for shooting.

Posted by: Maddogg | January 8, 2011 3:10 PM | Report abuse

This is a win for the left! They take out a disloyal Dem and can use the event to rally against guns and conservatives. Way to go Libs!

Posted by: xdream1 | January 8, 2011 3:09 PM | Report abuse

Maybe when progressive media outlets start saying give the neocon talking heads a reload take them out payback their nonsense of pushing people on the edge over will stop. I am not sure the shooter was pushed over the edge by them, but an educated guess says it's like the Pittsburgh policeman shot because Obama was taking his gun away.

Posted by: jameschirico | January 8, 2011 3:09 PM | Report abuse

In Germany the right won. In Russia the left won. Who will win in the USA?

Posted by: billsimpson451 | January 8, 2011 3:09 PM | Report abuse

Fox News claims responsibility for shooting.

Posted by: Maddogg | January 8, 2011 3:09 PM | Report abuse

"If we the people don't stant up and do something about this right wing crazies. We need to really start to take this very serious.

Posted by: alex_powell44"

Stop your hate-incitement and fear-mongering, hypocrite. It might lead to violence.

Posted by: bobmoses | January 8, 2011 3:08 PM | Report abuse


From the liberal website, Daily Kos:

My CongressWOMAN voted against Nancy Pelosi! And is now DEAD to me!

by BoyBlue
Thu Jan 06, 2011 at 11:07:17 AM PST

I am from the Tucson area and live in Congresswoman, Gabrielle Giffords' district.

....

Posted by: Nobama__in___2012 | January 8, 2011 3:08 PM | Report abuse

Too bad it wasn't howard dean or al gore. But a demokrat is a demokrat.

Posted by: dicksucker | January 8, 2011 3:03 PM | Report abuse
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IS SOMEONE AT THE POST GOING TO BAN THIS A-HOLE (SEE ABOVE) OR WHAT?.


AND PLEASE, WILL SOMEONE WHO KNOWS HOW TO CONTACT THE FBI PLEASE DO SO AND REPORT THIS PERSON.


ON THIS SAD DAY, THIS RIGHT WING INBREED HAS DECIDED TO MAKE EVEN MORE THEATS AGAINST DEMOCRATS LIVES.


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Posted by: DrainYou | January 8, 2011 3:08 PM | Report abuse

The irony here, IF it turns out the shooter was upset about Obama's healthcare reform and Rep Giffords' support thereof, is that the shooter just bought himself a lifetime of... state sponsored health care.

Posted by: APMoore | January 8, 2011 3:08 PM | Report abuse

If we the people don't stant up and do something about this right wing crazies. We need to really start to take this very serious. We need to protest FOX news and everybody that support this. I'm so hurt to hear that someone will shot this woman, this mother,this daughter, wife... This american. This is a very sad day! We all know that this wouldn't of happen if FOX news and SARAH PALIN NUT JOBS.

Posted by: alex_powell44 | January 8, 2011 3:08 PM | Report abuse

If we the people don't stant up and do something about this right wing crazies. We need to really start to take this very serious. We need to protest FOX news and everybody that support this. I'm so hurt to hear that someone will shot this woman, this mother,this daughter, wife... This american. This is a very sad day! We all know that this wouldn't of happen if FOX news and SARAH PALIN NUT JOBS.

Posted by: alex_powell44 | January 8, 2011 3:08 PM | Report abuse

My CongressWOMAN voted against Nancy Pelosi! And is now DEAD to me!
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2011/1/6/933828/-My..

Posted by: Surnbe | January 8, 2011 3:08 PM | Report abuse

The Left is this country is getting very scary.

A shooting takes place. In the complete absence of any facts – many on the left are seizing the moment of this tragedy to make political gains and to attack their political enemies - spewing bigoted broad-brush completely unsubstantiated claims about their political opposition and calling for the banning of a political party, the censorship of opposing views, and who knows - maybe worse...very similar to the Reichstag Fire. The political left is still reeling from public rejection of their positions and an electoral shellacking – but this is going way too far. Somebody on the political left needs to step up and rein in their fringe elements

Posted by: LastVisibleDog | January 8, 2011 3:07 PM | Report abuse

One less Leftist? Hip hip hooray!

Posted by: wewintheylose1 | January 8, 2011 2:36 PM

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Have you no sense of shame you frothing Liberal troll?

Posted by: Straightline | January 8, 2011 3:07 PM | Report abuse

Until full details are honestly reported, my bet is that it was done by one of the "open border"/invader types. If she was conservative, it would not then be a conservative sort to do it. She was/is pro-gun and pro-secure border. Therefore, she is an enemy of democrats more than of Americans.

Posted by: starvingactor

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Right that is why she is on Sarah Palin's "Hit List" and why dicksucker wrote "Too bad it wasn't howard dean or al gore. But a demokrat is a demokrat"

Posted by: rcc_2000 | January 8, 2011 3:07 PM | Report abuse

Democrats are so HAPPY about her death!

Go read Arianna Huffington's blog.

Liberals are absolutely giddy!!!!

Posted by: Nobama__in___2012 | January 8, 2011 2:53 PM | Report abuse

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You sicko twist!

Posted by: CitizenXX | January 8, 2011 3:07 PM | Report abuse

"Too bad it wasn't howard dean or al gore. But a demokrat is a demokrat." I read comments such as this one, and many more on this post and I have to wonder, what has happened to this country?

Posted by: dnealesq | January 8, 2011 3:07 PM | Report abuse

"I blame this state of Arizona."

Hmm. Why not just blame the city or the county. Maybe you could blame the American Southwest or the USA. North America?

How about blaming the shooter?

Posted by: bobmoses | January 8, 2011 3:07 PM | Report abuse

C'mon children, I know everybody is freaking out and angry - but let's wait for some solid information here.

This thread reads like a bunch of basket cases losing it. Now that I think of it, this thread is very likely exactly that.

Posted by: semantic1 | January 8, 2011 3:07 PM | Report abuse

"Giffords was elected to Congress in the Democratic sweep in 2006. The first Jewish woman elected to Congress from the state, she made her Jewish identity part of her campaign."

A lone young man shoots this woman, and a bunch of others, and the first thing people want to think is that a right wing or left wing nutjob did this? It's all speculation, but I can think of a better theory. Have you all forgotten Ft. Hood?

Posted by: mbs235 | January 8, 2011 3:07 PM | Report abuse

If we the people don't stant up and do something about this right wing crazies. We need to really start to take this very serious. We need to protest FOX news and everybody that support this, I'm so hurt to hear that someone will shot this woman, this mother,this daughter, wife... This american. This is a very sad day! We all know that this wouldn't of happen if FOX news and SARAH PALIN NUT JOBS.

Posted by: alex_powell44 | January 8, 2011 3:07 PM | Report abuse

Is this the "2nd ammendment remedy" Sharon Engle spoke of in the campaign?
Or, is it another manifestation of our All-American, constitutionally-protected love of guns?
I'm reminded of the old Hippie anthem by The Youngbloods,
"Come on people, smile on your brother,
Everybody get together, time to love one another right now."

Posted by: Wyidelode | January 8, 2011 3:07 PM | Report abuse

WAPO, please close this topic to public comments.

Please also remove the astonishing number of offensive and bigoted posts, and permanently block those posters from future posting on the WAPO website.

Thank you.

Posted by: Nosy_Parker | January 8, 2011 3:07 PM | Report abuse

Until full details are honestly reported, my bet is that it was done by one of the "open border"/invader types. If she was conservative, it would not then be a conservative sort to do it. She was/is pro-gun and pro-secure border. Therefore, she is an enemy of democrats more than of Americans.

Posted by: starvingactor

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Right that is why she is on Sarah Palin's "Hit List"

Posted by: rcc_2000 | January 8, 2011 3:06 PM | Report abuse


University Medical Center will have a press briefing in about 25 minutes.

Point blank in the head.

Tucson.....always has beena hotbed of crime.

I blame this state of Arizona. I won't even call it MY state any longer.

I am highly upset.

Posted by: TheBabeNemo | January 8, 2011 3:05 PM | Report abuse

One less Leftist? Hip hip hooray!

Posted by: wewintheylose1 | January 8, 2011 2:36 PM


So, you believe that shooting an unsuspecting, unarmed person is the proper way to settle political differences?
Well, the Golden Rule says "Do unto others as you would have others do unto you." Therefore, anyone who does not share your extreme right wing vierws is welcome to do to you what was done to the Honorable Representative from AZ, Gabrielle Giffords.
In order to assist the thousands (millions?) of 2nd Amendment supporters who are ready to introduce you to political revenge, please post your name, address, & phone # on this blog now. Then we'll see how much you like it when someone treats you with the same respect which you demonstrate for everyone else who is not to the right of Attila the Hun.
Are you too afraid to do it? I thought so. What a real man!

Posted by: DoctorB | January 8, 2011 3:05 PM | Report abuse

"CONGRATULATION REPUBLICAN/TEABAGGER DOMESTIC TERRORISTS!!!

ALL YOUR HARD WORK PAID OFF TODAY, YOU FINALLY HAVE DEMOCRATIC BLOOD ON YOUR HANDS!!!

Posted by: DrainYou

Uh, you do see that your rhetoric is far worse than hers, right? Good lord, you people are hypocrites.

Posted by: bobmoses | January 8, 2011 3:05 PM | Report abuse

I'm sorry...........thought this story was about a congresswoman shot by a deranged moron. I hope they fry his butt. To all those Dem-Wits who accuse Republicans for the shooting......get off Welfare, Medicaid, & SS Disability, get a job, get a life, pay your taxes.
Oh, and if Obamacare is such a good thing then why do certain Unions, Federal workers, State workers, Congress, & over 250 Businesses are now exempted from this Great Plan?

Posted by: peterwoohoo | January 8, 2011 3:05 PM | Report abuse

This event is brought to you with best wishes from the National Rifle Association and its right wing supporters.

Posted by: muleman |
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Get a clue. There are millions of whacko extremists on both the left and right fringes. Even the left wing whackos that are opposed to the NRA have guns and use them to murder those that oppose them. In this case it was most likely a Teabagger following the Wild Alaskan Dingbat's lead.
The NRA DOES NOT promote nor condone this type of extremism.
Your comments only fuel the divisions our politico's have created.
"United We Stand, Divided We Fall." Something the general populace seems to have forgotten.

Posted by: GEarlMoore | January 8, 2011 3:05 PM | Report abuse

dicksucker, your name says it all. I bet you must come from a long line of dicksuckers.

Posted by: taonima2000 | January 8, 2011 3:05 PM | Report abuse

MrMeaner ~ looks like "they" don't want to accept they've belched up yet another mad-dog killer, but they have.

The Left in this country will need to be severely reprimanded ~ maybe with time in camps or something ~ until they give up these homosexual hissy fits.

Posted by: muawiyah | January 8, 2011 3:05 PM | Report abuse

Nutjob Right-Wingers - this ad from Gifford's opponent Jesse Kelly

"Sat, 6/10/12...Get on target for victory in November Help remove Gabrielle Giffords from office Shoot a fully automatic M16 with Jesse Kelly"

Posted by: cile92 | January 8, 2011 3:04 PM | Report abuse

1. Pray for the victims because it's the right thing to do.
2. Knock off the accusations, the truth will come
3. Why did the author of this note discuss her opposition to Healthcare in March last year and not the recent vote on Healthcare?
4. Why did the author not discuss Congress Woman Giffords position on immigration and AZ law 1070?
5. Why did the author put this woman's death under a tag "44 The Obama Presidency?"

Much will be made of this, but the structure of the times will not change - 20% of America wants to use the federal government to blungeon 80% of America into submission, under the guise of legality. 40% of America will rewin our Freedom - without violence.

It's the left sending Union thugs out to intimidate - it happened to a Bank exec's teenage children in Washington, DC aided and abetted by the DC Police

Black Panthers are sent to voting booths in Philadelphia and the In-Justice Department does nothing but set them free after teh Prior administration had achieved a guilty verdict

It's Union thug tactics that stopped snow collection in NY causing the death of 2 babies and tradegy to countless others, now New Yorkers are living in garbage as a result

Union Thugs attacked Kenneth Gladney, 38, a conservative activist from St. Louis, as he handed out yellow flags with “Don’t tread on me” printed on them.

It's leftists who assemble in cities and wreak havoc, destroying shops, burning cars, etc. See Chicago in the 60's, any college campus in the 70's, Washington DC in the 80's when we were defeating Russian Communism, see Pro amnesty rallies in the early 2000's. See the destruction left on the mall after the Jon Stewart restore sanity rally...

Before you accuse the Tea Party, Republicans, or Sarah Palin supporters, none of who have roited or destroyed property, or attacked people at their rally's and peaceful protests - clean up your own side and to whatever God you pray to, pray for this Congresswoman and her supporters.

If this is someone associated with the Tea Party or the Republican party - trust me it's Republicans and Tea Partiers who will be the angriest and most helpful in putting this person behind jail forever...

Posted by: Part-of-the-unwashed | January 8, 2011 3:04 PM | Report abuse

Ariz. Congresswoman Giffords shot;
Dad said: 'Entire TEA PARTY' her enemy

Read more: http://www.nypost.com/p/news/national/ariz_congresswoman_shot_in_head_YFTvsurRHy5OWGSRKnuK8J#ixzz1ATZmSUWJ

Posted by: lcarter0311 | January 8, 2011 3:04 PM | Report abuse

Elections, people. We have elections in the USA, violence isn't needed to replace politicians.

This does not help the dialogue.

Ms. Gifford, RIP.

Posted by: rhall2 | January 8, 2011 3:04 PM | Report abuse

So far, we don't know anything about the shooter, so it's too early to speculate as to motive. The fact that she was threatened earlier this year and had her office windows smashed in may be relevant ... we'll see. But I am shocked by AmazedattheBS, who basically takes the attitude of, "This is tragic, but she had it coming." Not for nothing, this is exactly what the fundamentalist radicals in Pakistan said only days ago after the assassination of a moderate governor there by his bodyguard.

Again, we don't know who did this or why. But it behooves us to remember that angry, violent rhetoric can lead to angry, violent actions.

Posted by: va2bkk | January 8, 2011 3:04 PM | Report abuse

whatt prees Obaama hgoing to say about this.i bet she was shot by illegal alien and prres Obama is an open border guy

Posted by: jtrrailroad | January 8, 2011 3:04 PM | Report abuse

"Such attacks are the natural consequence of the irresponsible fear-mongering, hatred-inciting "politics" the Republican Party has been avidly and desperately exercising these past couple of years.

Posted by: threeoaksgone"

Spare us your hate-incitement and fear-mongering, hypocrite.

Posted by: bobmoses | January 8, 2011 3:03 PM | Report abuse

Until full details are honestly reported, my bet is that it was done by one of the "open border"/invader types. If she was conservative, it would not then be a conservative sort to do it. She was/is pro-gun and pro-secure border. Therefore, she is an enemy of democrats more than of Americans.

Posted by: starvingactor | January 8, 2011 3:03 PM | Report abuse

Too bad it wasn't howard dean or al gore. But a demokrat is a demokrat.

Posted by: dicksucker | January 8, 2011 3:03 PM | Report abuse

Welcome to America "The Beautiful".

Why doesn't Obama bring the troops home from Afghanistan and Iraq, and send them to the border states to protect us from insanity that takes place there each day?

Obama's response is always the same, "oh, no, no, no, our troops can never be used to protect the American people" at home.

Posted by: Ruhu | January 8, 2011 3:03 PM | Report abuse

This is not a political issue. Those of you on the left and right who are politicizing this tragedy should be ashamed. I'm as conservative as they come - just pray for her and for the other victims and their families.

Posted by: joanne600 | January 8, 2011 3:03 PM | Report abuse

Welcome to America "The Beautiful".

Why doesn't Obama bring the troops home from Afghanistan and Iraq, and send them to the border states to protect us from insanity that takes place there each day?

Obama's response is always the same, "oh, no, no, no, our troops can never be used to protect the American people" at home.

Posted by: Ruhu | January 8, 2011 3:03 PM | Report abuse

rcc, the label of traitor could also be applied to you. Under the Constitution we the People are guaranteed the right to bear arms. We are also given the right to replace the government if it becomes too oppressive. Having said that, this shooting was by no means justified, and we are not to the point of violent revolution. We choose to make our fight in the battlefield of ideas and have the confidence that our ideas will sustain this great country.

Posted by: LifeTraveler

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I am for gun ownership and if you look at any of my past posts I have stated that. I was referring to a quote by Sharron Angle. But you knew that. That said, if you read the 2nd Amendment it says ties gun ownership with a "well regulated militia".

BTW Gabrielle Giffords was on Sarah Palin's "hit list".

Who knows what the motivation of this nut case is. But if one where to bet, the logical, odds favorite would be that it is some Arizona Tea Party nut-case. But I guess we will see.

If you read these posts you will see where wewintheylose1 says "Thank goodness she was just a democrat.." and this has come to typify the public perception of what the Tea Party has become.

Posted by: rcc_2000 | January 8, 2011 3:03 PM | Report abuse

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"Republicans don't retreat, they reload" - Sarah Palin


"Americans (Republicans) are going to have to start using 2nd Amendment remedies if the voters don't get it right." - Sharron Angle


ENOUGH SAID...!


CONGRATULATION REPUBLICAN/TEABAGGER DOMESTIC TERRORISTS!!!


ALL YOUR HARD WORK PAID OFF TODAY, YOU FINALLY HAVE DEMOCRATIC BLOOD ON YOUR HANDS!!!


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Posted by: DrainYou | January 8, 2011 3:03 PM | Report abuse

What repulsive slime inhabit my country. My country.

Posted by: rusty3 | January 8, 2011 3:02 PM | Report abuse

If she is alive, it is unlikely, although possible, that she was shot in the head at point blank range. Hopefully, the injury was to her neck and is amenable to surgical cure. Better security is needed for these events.

Posted by: Martial | January 8, 2011 3:02 PM | Report abuse

The first assassination in the coming civil war between the left and right in America?....

Posted by: billsimpson451 | January 8, 2011 2:55 PM |


Sadly, that may be prophetic indeed...

Posted by: hared | January 8, 2011 3:02 PM | Report abuse

"That the Washington Post allows hateful, unsigned comments is a disgrace. They should close this comment section down or exercise editorial control to ensure a polite, civilized dialogue. Unlike most commenters here, I will sign my own name to this post.

Michael Dobbs
A retired Washington Post reporter.

I COULD NOT AGREE MORE.

Posted by: tb1982 | January 8, 2011 3:02 PM | Report abuse

I would bet anything the shooter will be revealed to be a left wing nut job. The left wing nut jobs blaming the tea party are just running interference because they do not want to face that hate is the sole position of the left. The party of hate is the democratic socialist party, just as it was in progressive-socialist Germany otherwise known as NAZI Germany.

Posted by: Surnbe | January 8, 2011 3:02 PM | Report abuse

Very sad, no one deserves to have something like this happen to them regardless of who they are. That said I see the usual racist and bigots on the left are screaming bloody murder, blaming Fox etc. These are the same idiots that think all these violent games, TV shows and so on are just fine, that those criminals gunning each other down in the streets are just misunderstood victims. These are again the same left wing idiots that immediately labeled the professor that shot her coworkers as a right wing extremist when it turned out she was in fact a left wing Obama supporter. If this person was a right wing extremist don't worry the Mainstream Media is just itching to get that news out. If not it will take some time to know what is going on.

Posted by: Pilot1 | January 8, 2011 3:02 PM | Report abuse

Such attacks are the natural consequence of the irresponsible fear-mongering, hatred-inciting "politics" the Republican Party has been avidly and desperately exercising these past couple of years.

Posted by: threeoaksgone | January 8, 2011 3:02 PM | Report abuse

Some are jumping to conclusions, we have no idea who the shooter is.

Some may be right, but no one knows yet.

Posted by: yarbrougharts | January 8, 2011 3:02 PM | Report abuse

My CongressWOMAN voted against Nancy Pelosi! And is now DEAD to me!

by BoyBlue

Thu Jan 06, 2011 at 11:07:17 AM PST

I am from the Tucson area and live in Congresswoman, Gabrielle Giffords' district. I worked like a dog for her elections when she was in the Arizona House, surrounded by rightwing nutcases. When Arizona re-districted in 2002, a seat opened up and she was right smack in the middle of it. So was I because I live in Oro Valley, Arizona, which is at the heart of that - then - new CD. I was one of several people to talk her into running and pledging complete loyalty and pledging to raise as much money as possible for her.

.......
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2011/1/6/933828/-My..

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Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords is dead to me now.

Posted by: Nobama__in___2012 | January 8, 2011 3:02 PM | Report abuse

Since you guys all know why the shooter did this, how about telling us his name or where he is from.

You know, while you guys are just making wild guesses.

Ooooh, I know. You could blame it on Dick Cheney while you are fabricating stuff. That would fit right into your fantasy.

Posted by: bobmoses | January 8, 2011 3:01 PM | Report abuse


Hey Tea Partiers...want a PICTURE OF GIFFORDS? Go to Sarah PALIN'S 'cross hairs list' (wikipedia has one) and you'll see Giffords there. Now, if that doesn't have ramifications, what will?

Posted by: whistling | January 8, 2011 3:01 PM | Report abuse

Elections, people. We have elections in the USA, violence isn't needed to replace politicians.

This does not help the dialogue.

Ms. Gifford, RIP.

Posted by: rhall2 | January 8, 2011 3:01 PM | Report abuse

So, Congresswomen Giffords,

How that Obama Care vote working out for you?

Posted by: Jonathan_Swift | January 8, 2011 2:42 PM
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This woman was doing her job and was SHOT!! What kind of Heartless person are you? And may have lost her life and you come in her with this non-sense? WTF is wrong with you, SERIOUSLY? NOBODY should be killed for their votes in the House while doing the peoples work! This is UNACCEPTABLE!!

Posted by: Angryman | January 8, 2011 3:00 PM | Report abuse

For God's sakes, where are the Capitol Police in having a plan in place to protect our congressman and Senators when they are out in the public? This is disgraceful. I hope the GOP Congress does not cry budget cut needs when our Congressman need protection while out in the public.

Posted by: DanKane1 | January 8, 2011 3:00 PM | Report abuse

Maybe we should blame the NRA ?

Posted by: Sweden | January 8, 2011 3:00 PM | Report abuse

"Right-wing extremist demagogues like Sarah P, Glenn B and the assorted lazy-asses are responsible for this"

No one - I repeat no one has been more devisive and dimsissive of the "the other side" than Pelosi, Reid and this President. Talk show hosts etc. can say wahetver they want - they are powerless - when folks get the message that those in charge are blowing them off that's a different story. I don't condone any violence on either side but if you can look right past allt he negative, goading, sniping rhetoric spouted by the the folks above in the past two years you're just as screwy as whomever is responsible for this crime and I dare say just as guilty for not demanding your own party and President(assuming this is cut and dried politically which we don't know)tone it down. Startign everything with a infantile "we one and you didn't" afront and continuing that stance for two years straightwhile dismissing all the concerns of the other political side as "racist" instead of listening foments nothing but frustration. Do you like being called a racist when you aren't? Do you like being blown off when you have an opinion? Do you like the poeple that you elected to be ignored and taunted rather than worked with? And just to head you off I didn;t ask if you think the Republican's ever did th esame - that's not the point, that (if it happened) would be the past and you can't justify your lack of action because someone else may or may not have done the same. It's a sad day for the obvious and not so obvious readons.

Posted by: fidelity1 | January 8, 2011 3:00 PM | Report abuse

I love the people blaming fox news for this, as if the left never engages in violence.

The Congresswoman is pro gun, anti illegal alien. That hardly seems like a target for a conservative.

Posted by: irish031 | January 8, 2011 2:59 PM | Report abuse

This was obviously nothing to do with cross-border travellers and a great deal to do with right -wing wackos obsessing about Obama death panels and the contamination of our precious bodily fluids by undocumented Mexicans. Apply Occam's razor, folks.

Posted by: rymlianin | January 8, 2011 2:59 PM | Report abuse

Jesus People! This is a TRAGEDY! The only appropriate response is "I am heartbroken that someone would be motivated to do this to another human being. My prayers are with her family."

Posted by: tb1982 | January 8, 2011 2:59 PM | Report abuse

"Sarah Palin don't retreat just reload rhetoric and Fox News daily stew of vile bile featuring Beck, Hannity & O'Reilly finally spilled over in the assassination attempt of a Democratic congresswoman.

Posted by: Citi__Street

Yeah, your hate speech is much better, hypocrite.

Posted by: bobmoses | January 8, 2011 2:59 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: MrMeaner | January 8, 2011 2:58 PM | Report abuse

Jesus People! This is a TRAGEDY! The only appropriate response is "I am heartbroken that someone would be motivated to do this to another human being. My prayers are with her family."

Posted by: tb1982 | January 8, 2011 2:58 PM | Report abuse

Jonathan_Swift wrote "So, Congresswomen Giffords,

How that Obama Care vote working out for you?"

====================================

The above is proof, if proof be needed, that those on the right have no shame.

We can always hope that Jonathan_Swift and family are in the vicinity next time and the shooter takes them out as collateral damage. We can then ask Jonathan_Swift how the hate on right is working out for him.

Posted by: Freethotlib | January 8, 2011 2:58 PM | Report abuse

preach_humanism -

Right, because this guy never would have shot 12 people if Sarah Palin had not made a gun analogy used in politics for centuries.

Good lord, you people are desperate in your need to hate those who don't share your narrow minded views. You are a very sick person who just can't stand the idea that good and/or intelligent people might not share your narrow minded views.

Your intolerance and mindless hatred has made your fantasy world intrude on reality. You are sick. Don't feel bad though. There are plenty of conservatives just as hateful and intolerant as you.

Now get back to hating everyone who doesn't share your policy views, child.

Posted by: bobmoses | January 8, 2011 2:57 PM | Report abuse

That the Washington Post allows hateful, unsigned comments is a disgrace. They should close this comment section down or exercise editorial control to ensure a polite, civilized dialogue. Unlike most commenters here, I will sign my own name to this post.

Michael Dobbs
A retired Washington Post reporter.

Posted by: msdobbs2 | January 8, 2011 2:57 PM | Report abuse

ANYONE from ANY point on the political spectrum who tries to make political hay from this is beneath contempt.

REAL Americans of all rational(!) political persuasions should unite behind the congresswoman and her family. There's plenty of time later to figure this out.

Posted by: post_reader_in_wv | January 8, 2011 2:57 PM | Report abuse

Is this the "2nd ammendment remedy" Sharon Engle spoke of in the campaign?
Or, is it another manifestation of our All-American, constitutionally-protected love of guns?
I'm reminded of the old Hippie anthem by The Youngbloods,
"Come on people, smile on your brother,
Everybody get together, time to love one another right now."

Posted by: Wyidelode | January 8, 2011 2:57 PM | Report abuse

It was only a matter of time before the Tea Party claim their first victim!

Sarah Palin don't retreat just reload rhetoric and Fox News daily stew of vile bile featuring Beck, Hannity & O'Reilly finally spilled over in the assassination attempt of a Democratic congresswoman.

Posted by: Citi__Street | January 8, 2011 2:57 PM | Report abuse

GREAT JOB POST!!! She ain't dead yet!

Posted by: SSTK34 | January 8, 2011 2:56 PM | Report abuse

Before you dupes on the left go to apoplectic you may want to check out this post on Daily Kos before it gets scrubbed.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2011/1/6/933828/-My..

Posted by: jonathanj | January 8, 2011 2:56 PM | Report abuse

Not every j ew, negro, q ueer, communist, illegal, baby killer, or muslim is a nation wrecking demokrat, but every nation wrecking demokrat is a j ew, a n egro, a queer, a communist, an illegal, a baby killer, or a muslim.

Don't expect us to cry crocodile tears when a criminal gets what is coming to them. Just War Theory defense is valid, guys.

Posted by: dicksucker | January 8, 2011 2:56 PM | Report abuse

Sarah Palin "targeted" her with an event in which you could go shoot an M-16 rifle with some wingnut. Way to spout off with inflammatory rhetoric and incite violence, Palin!

And I hope the NRA is proud of enabling yet another mass murder.

More right wing violence? We'll find out soon enough...

Posted by: losthorizon10 | January 8, 2011 2:56 PM | Report abuse

Pundit Press ( http://punditpress.blogspot.com/2011/01/breaking-did-radical-daily-kos-reader.html ) says a radical Daily Koss reader called "Blue Boy" shot her.

His motive appears to have been the fact that she voted against Pelosi the other day.

Now that's a hardcore Leftwingtard if I ever saw one.

Posted by: muawiyah | January 8, 2011 2:56 PM | Report abuse

"It's time to take the sick individuals' guns away."

Sorry - that isn't possible in AZ. Any adult in AZ who is not a convicted felon or adjudged mentally incompetent is entitled to carry a concealed weapon without a license and without any proof of competency in either how to use the weapon or when it may legally be used.

The NRA owns the conservative Republicans who run the state legislature.

Posted by: ad9inaz | January 8, 2011 2:56 PM | Report abuse

The first assassination in the coming civil war between the left and right in America? Blame Florida hate radio & Friends.

Posted by: billsimpson451 | January 8, 2011 2:55 PM | Report abuse

People...stop making this about politics. Stop calling people names. I ask that all of you posting remember the woman and the killings. You don't have to blame Fox News...God...did they kill her? No...but because you don't agree with "some" of their guests...you blame a killing on them. This is insane. Do you see what you are doing. For all those sane people posting...let's keep her in our prayers..and btw...I am a Conservative

Posted by: Carolyn22 | January 8, 2011 2:55 PM | Report abuse

When Idiots start assassinating or attempting to assassinate elected officials over something as dumb as taxes or Healthcare reform than the Idiots are no better than this fanatics in the 3rd world countries. What makes our country so great is that we are SAFELY aloud to disagree. When that is gone we are NO LONGER A FREE NATION.

Bless all of those injured/killed by this sick individual.

Posted by: Pumpkin31 | January 8, 2011 2:55 PM | Report abuse

Hmm. I suppose that the folks rushing to blame conservatives as a whole for this also blame liberals for John Allen Muhammad's attacks on our "racist society". Or blame liberals for the environmental terrorism of ELF. Or blame liberals for Abdul Hakim Mujahid Muhammad's shooting of a US soldier rooted in his anti-war views.

Of course they won't do that. Doing so would be silly, kind of like their attempts to blame conservatives for this tragedy.
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That's a rather narrow analysis.

You're ignoring the fact that mainstream liberals don't recommend "second amendment remedies" for lost elections. Mainstream conservatives have been doing so lately. That is why, if the shooter was a Beck/Limabugh/Pailin-ite, this is a troublesome development. It would indicate that dangerous rhetoric is becoming deadly action.

Posted by: mason08 | January 8, 2011 2:55 PM | Report abuse

Before you dupes on the left go to apoplectic you may want to check out this post on Daily Kos before it gets scrubbed.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2011/1/6/933828/-My..

Posted by: jonathanj | January 8, 2011 2:55 PM | Report abuse

Thanks Fox News. You have reaped what you have sown. I hope Sean Hannity, Glenn Beck, and Sarah Palin think carfully about the mayhem that they have unleashed whenever they are sitting in the safety of their gated communities counting their money. They get rich, and right-wing nutbags like the shooter take them seriously and do the dirty work. Was it really worth it???

Posted by: HymanRoth | January 8, 2011 2:55 PM | Report abuse

This is the end result of Fox News America.

Posted by: Holcombe1 | January 8, 2011 2:54 PM | Report abuse

Giffords was not exactly a lighting rod for the far right.
If it were Reid, then I would be worried about that.

So why don't we all just shut up until all the facts are in.

Posted by: rexreddy | January 8, 2011 2:54 PM | Report abuse

Only a hate-filled Progressive would blame this tragety on the other party. What's wrong with you people?

Posted by: CogsUSA | January 8, 2011 2:54 PM | Report abuse

This is the legacy of Teabaggers and the Republican Party, especially Sarah Palin and her ilk of prehistoric thugs. Their rhetoric brought on this action. They will have to answer for this.

Posted by: dcbart | January 8, 2011 2:54 PM | Report abuse

It was only a matter of time before the Tea Party claim their first victim!

Sarah Palin don't retreat just reload rhetoric and Fox News daily stew of vile bile featuring Beck, Hannity & O'Reilly finally spilled over in the assassination attempt of a Democratic congresswoman.

Posted by: Citi__Street | January 8, 2011 2:54 PM | Report abuse

I hate to say it but I suspect there will likely be a lot more of this sort of thing in the future. Especially if the politicians don't start listening to the people. They have gotten to big for their britches as my dear old grand dad would say. Can you say accountability Mr. and Mrs.Politician, if not I suggest you learn the meaning of the word and do it quickly. People are fed up and disgusted based on what happened here today? While this is a sad outcome I hate to say it but I'm sure frustration that drove this poor man to do what he did. While I do not condone the action, I understand it. Based on the crazy and self serving crap the politicians have been doing over the past 10 years. Everyone gets screwed but them. I guess they assume its fair since the majority of people are treated the same. I wonder if Arizona Rep. Gabrielle Giffords thinks this result is fair?

Posted by: AmazedattheBS | January 8, 2011 2:54 PM | Report abuse

Thanks Fox News. You have reaped what you have sowed. I hope Sean Hannity, Glenn Beck, and Sarah Palin think carfully about the mayhem that they have unleashed whenever they are sitting in the safety of their gated communities counting their money. They get rich, and right-wing nutbags like the shooter take them seriously and do the dirty work. Was it really worth it???

Posted by: HymanRoth | January 8, 2011 2:54 PM | Report abuse

bobmoses: Of course you would try to compare an angry liberal person calling a name to the obviously hate filled right wing nuts in this section to the rhetoric by the elected officials on your side using terms like "don't shoot, reload"..."take our country back"

Posted by: robsmarq

You mean like Howard Dean, hypocrite.

http://www.amazon.com/You-Have-Power-Country-Democracy/dp/0743270134

Please stay in your dorm room a few more years. You are too gullible to face the real world.

Spare us your ignorant hypocrisy, child.

Posted by: bobmoses | January 8, 2011 2:53 PM | Report abuse

No shock. Gonna be some whacked out Bagger fighting for Jaysus and the Kon-sty-too-shun.

Posted by: vze2r3k5 | January 8, 2011 2:53 PM | Report abuse

Democrats are so HAPPY about her death!

Go read Arianna Huffington's blog.

Liberals are absolutely giddy!!!!

Posted by: Nobama__in___2012 | January 8, 2011 2:53 PM | Report abuse

Livefreeordie: You are a NUT! What in the hell does this other nut in Arizona shooting a defenseless Congresswoman have to do with those condemning it not liking Christianity. You are despicable and typical of your ilk. Typical right wing....one of your nuts gets loose and so you wanna change the subject....

Posted by: robsmarq | January 8, 2011 2:53 PM | Report abuse

Except, she is known for wanting to crack down on illegal immigration and improving technology on the border to secure it.

You sure the shooter (18-20 year old in custody) hasn't been watching MSNBC and reading the Daily KOS too much?

Of course, it might be a better idea to actually listen and read to the news stories. The person may have just shot her because he was a nut.

Posted by: PALADIN7E | January 8, 2011 2:53 PM | Report abuse

Another one of you political nitwits has crossed the line.

When will this country wake up and realize that each and every one of those that declare themselves Republican or Democrat are nothing more than a brainwashed terrorist. Hate spewers like Rush Limbaugh and Keith Olberman are taking advantage of a gullible society that takes everything their cult leaders speak as gospel. And this is the result.

Good job Republicans and Democrats, these murders on your heads. I'll take a religious whackjob over a political whackjob anyday.

Posted by: RobInVaBeach | January 8, 2011 2:53 PM | Report abuse

This is the legacy of Teabaggers and the Republican Party - especially Sarah Palin and her ilk of prehistoric thugs. Their rhetoric brought on this action. They will have to answer for this.

Posted by: dcbart | January 8, 2011 2:52 PM | Report abuse

LOCAL NEWS REPORTING: They have the gunman in police custody. Unfortunately there are six people dead including a child. The gunman opened fire at a political event in a crowd so shots went everywhere. Rep Giffords was shot pointblank.

Posted by: Desertdiva1 | January 8, 2011 2:52 PM | Report abuse

Lucky they screen for guns at "Town-Hall" meetings because there are lots of creeps looking for a crack to go from nothing to something. The one thing assassins all have in common.

Posted by: WmLaney | January 8, 2011 2:52 PM | Report abuse

The right will now work very hard to shape this story to make it appear the shooter was harmed by Ms. Gifford's political efforts. They will NOT reference the words of Sharon Angle, Sarah Palin, Glenn Beck or Rush Limbaugh as they attempt to bury this tragedy of the right's making.

The right keeps babbling about 2nd Amendment "justice" and now we begin to reap the fruits of the hate the RIGHT has sowed.

Posted by: Freethotlib | January 8, 2011 2:52 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: grunk | January 8, 2011 2:52 PM | Report abuse

Another one of you political nitwits has crossed the line.

When will this country wake up and realize that each and every one of those that declare themselves Republican or Democrat are nothing more than a brainwashed terrorist. Hate spewers like Rush Limbaugh and Keith Olberman are taking advantage of a gullible society that takes everything their cult leaders speak as gospel. And this is the result.

Good job Republicans and Democrats, these murders on your heads. I'll take a religious whackjob over a political whackjob anyday.

Posted by: RobInVaBeach | January 8, 2011 2:52 PM | Report abuse

@bobmoses nicely played, except for all the owned statements by Palin and the Congresswoman's competition for the seat all invoking firearms as solutions. OWN IT!

Posted by: preach_humanism | January 8, 2011 2:51 PM | Report abuse

Before you dupes on the left go to apoplectic you may want to check out this post on Daily Kos before it gets scrubbed.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2011/1/6/933828/-My..

Posted by: jonathanj | January 8, 2011 2:51 PM | Report abuse

Revolution is a bloody business just ask Obama friends and associates Bernardine Rae Dohrn et al. Dohrn is a convicted domestic terrorist. As a disbarred attorney, Dohrn sits on important committees and boards of the American Bar Association, American Civil Liberties Union and is an Associate Professor of Law at Northwestern University, allegedly teaching children's legal rights. Dohrn has been a prominent fundraiser for Barack Obama and close family friend.

Ask Obama's close friend William Charles "Bill" Ayers who is currently a professor at the University of Illinois at Chicago and former Chicago community organizer. He is best known as a founder of the internationally supported terrorist Weather Underground Organization (WUO), and friend of U.S President Barack Obama.

What about Hillary Clinton and FARC?

Whenever and wherever a totalitarian ideologue willfully, deliberately and contemptibly thwarts the will of the people and mocks and loathes the blood and sacred honor purchased Constitution some of the people will predictably react as revolutionaries.

Our "president" regularly taunts, provokes and incites division, class warfare and lets America know without question that he is president of only some of the people depending on the preferred ethnicity, religion or economic standing of the persons or groups.

Perhaps whomever is responsible for this regrettable act of violence will have the same luxury as the Marxist/democrat revolutionaries and be provided with some high profile pro bono ACLU or SPLC or PAW legal team to pervert the legal system and the juries to free the revolutionary and they will eventually be teaching at Columbia University, NYU or Northwestern? It can happen and has.

The selective outrage of the radical secular left as evidenced in the canned, self righteous feigned shock in the posts on this forum is laughable and the lowest depths of hypocrisy. They are driven by a collective hatred of Christianity, Western Civilization and the Constitution of the United States of America.

Beware the enemy within.

Posted by: LiveFreeOrDie1776 | January 8, 2011 2:51 PM | Report abuse

Left wingers across the country ready to blame all conservatives for crazy actions of one sick individual.

Posted by: guest1
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They caught the shooter so we'll soon know his motive. It's time to take the sick individuals' guns away.

Posted by: MNUSA | January 8, 2011 2:51 PM | Report abuse

A country that is permeated by the use of force and war becomes a perpetual state of war... where other are just symbols for their own frustration and ideological fixations...

Posted by: Wildthing1 | January 8, 2011 2:51 PM | Report abuse

The conservaturds must be overjoyed by this sad event.

Posted by: coliwabl1 | January 8, 2011 2:50 PM | Report abuse

Another one of you political nitwits has crossed the line.

When will this country wake up and realize that each and every one of those that declare themselves Republican or Democrat are nothing more than a brainwashed terrorist. Hate spewers like Rush Limbaugh and Keith Olberman are taking advantage of a gullible society that takes everything their cult leaders speak as gospel. And this is the result.

Good job Republicans and Democrats, these murders on your heads. I'll take a religious whackjob over a political whackjob anyday.

Posted by: RobInVaBeach | January 8, 2011 2:50 PM | Report abuse

Anyone attacking a demokrat senator or congressman should is entitled to self defense under Just War Theory.

Not every jew, negro, queer, communist, illegal, baby killer, or muslim is a nation wrecking demokrat, but every nation wrecking demokrat is a jew, a negro, a queer, a communist, an illegal, a baby killer, or a muslim.

Posted by: dicksucker | January 8, 2011 2:50 PM | Report abuse

It was only a matter of time before the Tea Party claim their first victim!

Sarah Palin don't retreat just reload rhetoric and Fox News daily stew of vile bile featuring Beck, Hannity & O'Reilly finally spilled over in the assassination attempt of a Democratic congresswoman.

Posted by: Citi__Street | January 8, 2011 2:50 PM | Report abuse

Revolution is a bloody business just ask Obama friends and associates Bernardine Rae Dohrn et al. Dohrn is a convicted domestic terrorist. As a disbarred attorney, Dohrn sits on important committees and boards of the American Bar Association, American Civil Liberties Union and is an Associate Professor of Law at Northwestern University, allegedly teaching children's legal rights. Dohrn has been a prominent fundraiser for Barack Obama and close family friend.

Ask Obama's close friend William Charles "Bill" Ayers who is currently a professor at the University of Illinois at Chicago and former Chicago community organizer. He is best known as a founder of the internationally supported terrorist Weather Underground Organization (WUO), and friend of U.S President Barack Obama.

What about Hillary Clinton and FARC?

Whenever and wherever a totalitarian ideologue willfully, deliberately and contemptibly thwarts the will of the people and mocks and loathes the blood and sacred honor purchased Constitution some of the people will predictably react as revolutionaries.

Our "president" regularly taunts, provokes and incites division, class warfare and lets America know without question that he is president of only some of the people depending on the preferred ethnicity, religion or economic standing of the persons or groups.

Perhaps whomever is responsible for this regrettable act of violence will have the same luxury as the Marxist/democrat revolutionaries and be provided with some high profile pro bono ACLU or SPLC or PAW legal team to pervert the legal system and the juries to free the revolutionary and they will eventually be teaching at Columbia University, NYU or Northwestern? It can happen and has.

The selective outrage of the radical secular left as evidenced in the canned, self righteous feigned shock in the posts on this forum is laughable and the lowest depths of hypocrisy. They are driven by a collective hatred of Christianity, Western Civilization and the Constitution of the United States of America.

Beware the enemy within.

Posted by: LiveFreeOrDie1776 | January 8, 2011 2:50 PM | Report abuse

"Are you making more threats?

I hope your post is passed on to the FBI!"

Please. This is quite obviously a liberal trying to create "evidence" that people they don't like are evil.

I am reporting it to the WaPo staff though. They retain the IP addresses and will be able to let the FBI find out from the ISP who made the threat.

Pretty smart day to do that buddy. I'll be glad to do my part to ensure that you pay the price.

Posted by: bobmoses | January 8, 2011 2:50 PM | Report abuse

Mistakenly introducing a political motive when none has been established. He shot her for her support of health care? Then why did he shoot up the crowd?

Posted by: blasmaic | January 8, 2011 2:50 PM | Report abuse

Prayers for her family.

You don't need a gun unless you're a hunter? Spoken like a mindless leftist. Someone breaks into your home and threatens your life. You have no firearms in the house - you rely on the police.

How many minutes will it take the police to arrive? Far too many if the criminal is armed with anything.

I've run into this situation personally. You're kidding yourself if you think there is no need for self-defense in the modern world.

And to say that there is no chance anyone could have done anything in today's situation if they were armed is simply silliness. Maybe. Maybe not. I'd much rather be armed and ready and never need it than need it and not have it.

If you wish to be an unarmed victim walking through life, lib, that's your right. Hope you'll never regret that decision.

Posted by: jmpickett | January 8, 2011 2:50 PM | Report abuse

Time to drain the teabagger swamp. Begin the mass arrests for all those register as Republicans, please. Treasonous pigs.

Posted by: B-rod | January 8, 2011 2:50 PM | Report abuse

TO THE TEA PARTY, BECK, PALIN, LIMBAUGH, ET AL: This assasination was YOUR doing. You broke it so you own it. (Play in the mud and you get dirty, play with fire and you get burned, incite violence and you are the violater.)

Posted by: HillNo | January 8, 2011 2:49 PM | Report abuse

Another one of you political nitwits has crossed the line.

When will this country wake up and realize that each and every one of those that declare themselves Republican or Democrat are nothing more than a brainwashed terrorist. Hate spewers like Rush Limbaugh and Keith Olberman are taking advantage of a gullible society that takes everything their cult leaders speak as gospel. And this is the result.

Good job Republicans and Democrats, these murders on your heads. I'll take a religious whackjob over a political whackjob anyday.

Posted by: RobInVaBeach | January 8, 2011 2:49 PM | Report abuse

This event is brought to you with best wishes from the National Rifle Association and its right wing supporters. Since this was in Arizona, someone surely had a concealed weapon - and that sure helped defuse the situation!
Come Monday, Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity et al will celebrate this splendid exercise of someone's Second Amendment rights.
On another note: we are at the edge of anarchy, thoughtfully provided by right AND left wing extremists. When the Constitution was read on the House floor, did anyone stop to think about the Preamble: "We the People of the United States, in order to form a MORE PERFECT UNION????

Posted by: muleman | January 8, 2011 2:49 PM | Report abuse

bobmoses: Of course you would try to compare an angry liberal person calling a name to the obviously hate filled right wing nuts in this section to the rhetoric by the elected officials on your side using terms like "don't shoot, reload"..."take our country back"..."Hands off my guns" and such...But if you have any intellectual honesty, you would acknowledge that they are NOT even close to the same thing....You right wing nuts will reap what you've sewn in terms of permanently rendering your ideology and party obsolete....Most moderate Americans see you for what you are, but are often afraid of your nutty reactions to oppositions...I am not one of the afraid ones, and I wish with all my might that one of you would try to intimidate me in person for my views on ANYTHING...Of course, most of you are either internet tough guys or have that lynch mob courage that leads you to spew your hatred at rallies with like minded people...You are cowards!

Posted by: robsmarq | January 8, 2011 2:49 PM | Report abuse

What in the world is the **matter** with you people? People have been injured. A woman is possibly dead or dying. And all you can do is spew bigotry and partisan BS at one another? I'm disgusted with all of you, Dems and Repubs alike. You should be ashamed of yourselves. God grant that we all find our way back to civility before this nation really **does** fall apart.

Posted by: alon68 | January 8, 2011 2:49 PM | Report abuse

The rhetoric of those like Sarah Palin and Michelle Bachmann have created an atmosphere that encourages this type of horrible event. Putting gunsites on people on your website or encouraging violent solutions to political issues or constantly referring to your political opponents as enemies of America will simply create more of this. I would not be surprised to see more Democratic members of Congress assassinated before this is over.

Posted by: Greg1964 | January 8, 2011 2:49 PM | Report abuse

Shame on you WAPO for opening the comment section before the facts are even in.

We all know what you are hoping WAPO and I hope it backfires in your face big time.

Stinking rag.

Posted by: Straightline | January 8, 2011 2:49 PM | Report abuse

I hope all of you tea party bags, right wingers and most of all Sara Palen are happy. You foment and encourage such hate.
I don't, of course, want to leave out Glen Beck, Rush Dimbulb and the rest at Faux news.

May your sleep be filled with nightmares.

Posted by: angelofil | January 8, 2011 2:48 PM | Report abuse

This is terrible and I hope that this guy gets life or the needle. For those that are trying to make this a partisan issue...don't..remember that they shot President Reagan also...and President Kennedy. Arizona is a mess with criminals coming across the border and it is time that we looked at this. They have gang wars just over the border and this should be looked into. SECURE THE BORDER...even if this is not related...there are enough shootings down there to warrant this.

Posted by: Carolyn22 | January 8, 2011 2:48 PM | Report abuse

Another one of you political nitwits has crossed the line.

When will this country wake up and realize that each and every one of those that declare themselves Republican or Democrat are nothing more than a brainwashed terrorist. Hate spewers like Rush Limbaugh and Keith Olberman are taking advantage of a gullible society that takes everything their cult leaders speak as gospel. And this is the result.

Good job Republicans and Democrats, these murders on your heads. I'll take a religious whackjob over a political whackjob anyday.

Posted by: RobInVaBeach | January 8, 2011 2:48 PM | Report abuse

To "rcc_2000, "Chip Shirley", "GARAK", and all similar commentors:

Nothing in any news story about this shooting did is say or imply that there was ANY connection to "The Tea Party", "Conservatives", or "Palin"!! And, this has NOTHING to do with second amendment rights. I'm sure that whether or not the gun was legally carried even entered this nuts head; Nor, would any "gun control" law have stopped him from doing what he did!!

If you wish to discuss incitement of crazies to do things like this; then, most of the comments in this article are a perfect example of the hate filled, irrational attacks that are a regular part of the fringe left playbook!

Also, if this was a political or ideological attack on the Congresswomen, it would not explain why this nut irrationally shot 12 other people, most likely all regular citizens attending an event!!

Nothing has been said, either, about the issue or issues that triggered this person, if there were any. So WHY does the Post reference last month's attacks during the health care debate???? (FACT: Some of those attacks were never verified; and, at least ONE, in Colorado, was proven to have been an attack of a Democrat office by a LEFTIST ACTIVIST trying to create an "event" to blame on Conservatives!!! - A common strategy among leftwing activist community groups and academics and students on college campus' since the 1960's!)

rdog

Posted by: RDog1 | January 8, 2011 2:48 PM | Report abuse

I hope harry reid or one of the 2 w hores in Maine is next.

Communists, your actions have consequences and you are vulnerable. As are your families.

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Are you making more threats?

I hope your post is passed on to the FBI!

Posted by: lcarter0311 | January 8, 2011 2:48 PM | Report abuse

Congresswoman is alive. Sorry to disappoint the mindless partisans out there.

Posted by: bobmoses | January 8, 2011 2:48 PM | Report abuse

Democrats are so HAPPY about her death!
Go read Arianna Huffington's blog.
Liberals are absolutely giddy!!!!

Posted by: Nobama__in___2012
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You are one sick son of a b----. I hope someone is watching you. Anyone so gleeful about a tragedy like this needs to on a list of dangerous unbalanced nutters. If you have any kind of conscience, shame on you.

Posted by: MNUSA | January 8, 2011 2:47 PM | Report abuse

I hope harry reid or one of the 2 w hores in Maine is next.
Communists, your actions have consequences and you are vulnerable. As are your families.

Posted by: dicksucker | January 8, 2011 2:44 PM | Report abuse

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THIS (SEE ABOVE) IS YOUR MODERN DAY EXTREMIST REPUBLICAN PARTY IN ACTION PEOPLE !!!!


DERANGED PSYCHOPATHS WITH ACCESS TO WEAPONS!!!!


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Posted by: DrainYou | January 8, 2011 2:47 PM | Report abuse

So how much of this whole story is true?

Posted by: dudh | January 8, 2011 2:47 PM | Report abuse

Another one of you political nitwits has crossed the line.

When will this country wake up and realize that each and every one of those that declare themselves Republican or Democrat are nothing more than a brainwashed terrorist. Hate spewers like Rush Limbaugh and Keith Olberman are taking advantage of a gullible society that takes everything their cult leaders speak as gospel. And this is the result.

Good job Republicans and Democrats, these murders on your heads. I'll take a religious whackjob over a political whackjob anyday.

Posted by: RobInVaBeach | January 8, 2011 2:47 PM | Report abuse

It is true that he could have come from any where, for any reason. Heck, he could be a disgruntled former staffer. He could be anyone, you know, her pissed off paperboy for all we know. Time will tell.

But at first glance, it seems far from random.

Hey, wasn't there just a gunman/hostage incident in an Arizona mall this past week?

Posted by: lindsaycurren | January 8, 2011 2:47 PM | Report abuse

APersonLikeYou, WELL said. Nobody KNOWS anything at this point. A public servant was meeting with their constituents and was killed. Take your hate and be quiet. Please have respect.

Posted by: Patriot378 | January 8, 2011 2:47 PM | Report abuse

Libs love to accuse the right wing of being violent minded. These libs are the same ones who support socialist Democrats. The socialist Dems look up to people like Karl Marx and Mao Tse Tung, whose idealogies led to the deaths of millions. Who should we worry about more, right-wingers or left-wingers? Just look to history for the clear answer.

Posted by: LifeTraveler | January 8, 2011 2:47 PM | Report abuse

Democrats are so HAPPY about her death!

Read their comments here.

Liberals are absolutely giddy!!!!

Posted by: Nobama__in___2012 | January 8, 2011 2:47 PM | Report abuse

It's usually been the case that assassins in America have been either leftwingtards, or Democrats, or those affiliated with Democrats like the Islamofascists.

Odds are that since NO ONE has said anything about the who/whats of this killer that he's just another in a long line of mind-numbed, robot-like, knee-jerk Leftwingtards.

Dollars to doughnuts on that one!

Posted by: muawiyah | January 8, 2011 2:47 PM | Report abuse

Anybody got any evidence for your wild accusations? Or are you guys just speaking your fantasies out loud?

You folks are despicable.

Posted by: bobmoses | January 8, 2011 2:46 PM | Report abuse

First let me issue my sympathy to Rep Giffords family. Second maybe now Obama will get serious about securing our border. No one in Washington lives with the mess we do in Arizona. This isn't politics here it's our lives and livelihood. If you live without hope then you have crazy people who resort to violence. Violence is NOT the answer. We would have removed Rep Giffords at the next election in 2012 so this was unnecessary. There are SIX people dead here today not just Rep Giffords. People this isn't about politics any more it's about people's lives and their families safety. Let's hope this is a wake up to Washington to stop playing games.

Posted by: Desertdiva1 | January 8, 2011 2:46 PM | Report abuse

does she have children? this is a time to pray and wait for FACTS.

Posted by: nomasgringas | January 8, 2011 2:46 PM | Report abuse

The far left is cleansing itself of the remaining "Blue Dog" Democrats not purged in the last election.

The Socialists don't want Blue Dogs contaminating their plans for a Socialist Utopia.

Posted by: FormerDemocrat | January 8, 2011 2:46 PM | Report abuse

To Jonathan_Swift: You insensitive f..k!

Posted by: coliwabl1 | January 8, 2011 2:46 PM | Report abuse

Right-wing extremist demagogues like Sarah P, Glenn B and the assorted lazy-asses are responsible for this. They have raised the level of hate and stupidity in this great country to unprecedented levels and are sitting back and enjoying the show with their millions of $s. Shame on every one of them and their fans.

Posted by: Nparry | January 8, 2011 2:45 PM | Report abuse

Right-wing extremist demagogues like Sarah P, Glenn B and the assorted lazy-asses are responsible for this. They have raised the level of hate and stupidity in this great country to unprecedented levels and are sitting back and enjoying the show with their millions of $s. Shame on every one of them and their fans.

Posted by: Nparry | January 8, 2011 2:45 PM | Report abuse

Why isn't the Washington Post reviewing and filtering these comments like every other news outlet in America?

Posted by: htimothyjones1 | January 8, 2011 2:45 PM | Report abuse

So if Sarah Palin was to be shot, would it be her critics fault?

Please, hypocrites. Step off the corpse. It's not a soapbox for your mindless partisanship, you ghouls.

Posted by: bobmoses | January 8, 2011 2:45 PM | Report abuse

The ironic pivot is bringing healthcare to 40 million Americans can bring this out in people. Rupert Murdoch has that much power.

Posted by: WmLaney | January 8, 2011 2:45 PM | Report abuse

This is a horrible day for Rep. Giffords, her family, her community, her state, and our nation. A horrible day.

Posted by: pscohl | January 8, 2011 2:45 PM | Report abuse

"Despite WAPO headline, not certain yet that she is dead. NPR (first to report that she was killed) has backed off that report and now is just saying there are "conflicting reports" regarding whether she was killed."

Oh do be serious please. Shot in the head at point blank range. If she is not technically dead she may as well be.

Posted by: jhadv | January 8, 2011 2:45 PM | Report abuse

Truth as respects unusual crimes almost always better instructs than the product of wan imagining. Remember the Olkahoma City bombing? The original suspicion was a foreign attack from an Al Qaeda type. The McVeigh caper was a fascinating amalgam, whose analysis improved the safety of all.

One hears, for example, that White Supremacist gangs are working with Mexican drug lords to better insure profits for the latter. Very likely all AZ legislators work in some capacity with the FBI on this problem.

Posted by: Martial | January 8, 2011 2:45 PM | Report abuse

We knew this was coming. The incitement to violence by the Teabaggers was no accident. They have blood on their hands.
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She was one of a few Blue Dog Democrats to support the health care bill and just know she was targeted for that.
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Rush and Beck (and plenty of their supporters here) will say it was REALLY a left-wing operative posing as a teabagger to try to deflect responsibility. No one will be fooled.
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Teabaggers and conservatives - you have blood on your hands.

Posted by: B-rod | January 8, 2011 2:45 PM | Report abuse

Media, right wing noise machine and gunman equally to blame.

Posted by: anarcho-liberal-tarian | January 8, 2011 2:45 PM | Report abuse


What have we come to? Why don't you ask Obama? He and his brownshirts wanted to shut down FoxNews, put the Republicans at the back of the bus, refused to listen to any of our concerns about the so-called Healthcare overhaul, have decided to track us on the internet, etc., etc., etc. Why don't you ask Obama what we've come to? Obama is responsible for this killing!

Posted by: georges2 | January 8, 2011 2:41 PM

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What a moronic 'spin'. The poor woman was a Democrat. Duh! And you blame 'Obama'. You need to put the pipe down!

Posted by: mosthind | January 8, 2011 2:44 PM | Report abuse

This is a horrible day for Rep. Giffords, her family, her community, her state, and our nation. A horrible day.

Posted by: pscohl | January 8, 2011 2:44 PM | Report abuse

Many Republicans/Conservatives/Tea Partiers, running for office, said that if they do not agree with the election results they will resort to '2nd amendment solutions'. No Republican/Conservative/Tea Partier corrected them or disagreed with them.

So, what happened is the natural consequence.

Posted by: AMviennaVA | January 8, 2011 2:44 PM | Report abuse

So, Congresswomen Giffords,

How that Obama Care vote working out for you?

Posted by: Jonathan_Swift | January 8, 2011 2:42 PM | Report abuse

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I wish you were next to me in line!

Posted by: CitizenXX | January 8, 2011 2:44 PM | Report abuse

I hope harry reid or one of the 2 w hores in Maine is next.

Communists, your actions have consequences and you are vulnerable. As are your families.

Posted by: dicksucker | January 8, 2011 2:44 PM | Report abuse

On MSNBC- Hospital PA Staff states she is a live, in surgery

Posted by: Finnegen | January 8, 2011 2:44 PM | Report abuse


The ranting screaming conservatives have set the stage for this, AND BY GOD they own it.

Posted by: whistling | January 8, 2011 2:44 PM | Report abuse

The clairvoyance exhibited by many of the posters is amazing. To know without doubt and without evidence whence and why this crime was committed boggles my simple mind. Perhaps you will also tell me who will win the next World Series. . .

Posted by: gibiphone | January 8, 2011 2:44 PM | Report abuse

Right winger, left winger, tea partier...it doesn't really matter...the person was obviously sick, mean or just plain crazy...none of us knows and he could have come from anywhere for any reason...stop with the rhetoric that means nothing and stop assuming any of you know anything...Representative Giffords and several staff members have died serving their country..not to mention a child...get off of your high horses and look at yourselves...We have got to stop being so hateful ourselves or we are no different from those we blame.

Posted by: APersonLikeYou | January 8, 2011 2:43 PM | Report abuse

The WaPo story says nothing of her being dead so pipe down.

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You need to go back and look at the MAIN Page, DickWad, so you pipe down.

Posted by: lcarter0311 | January 8, 2011 2:43 PM | Report abuse

MrsWhatsit, I'm the one who said it could be and very likely was politically motivated.

That other people were killed in the process doesn't lessen, but rather increases the impact of that political motivation, if true.

I also posted on here that yes, we have to wait for more details.

But politically motivated crimes happen all the time. We're not so used to assassinations here, not in a long time. But this country is teetering on madness, so it's also not altogether unsurprising if it is politically motivated.

Posted by: lindsaycurren | January 8, 2011 2:43 PM | Report abuse

"Republicans don't retreat, they reload" - Sarah Palin


"Americans (Republicans) are going to have to start using 2nd Amendment remedies if the voters don't get it right." - Sharron Angle


Congratulations Teabagger Inbreeds!


This must be a banner day for you.


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Posted by: DrainYou | January 8, 2011 2:43 PM | Report abuse

@sdent60 "G-d help us if this is Obama's Reichstag Moment"

You're so effing ridiculous I hope you shoot yourself in the face today.

Lunatics like you are giving republicans like me a bad name. GFY.

Posted by: jschw10 | January 8, 2011 2:43 PM | Report abuse

hmmm, if this proved to be a terrorist with foreign ties or jihadist connections, the left with immediately declare it an 'isolated incident' by a lone extremist nut.

However, if the shooter has had a shred of republican/conservative background - even showing up at one Tea Party event - then all right-wingers will be blamed by the press and liberal pundits.

Posted by: fredrickb | January 8, 2011 2:43 PM | Report abuse

The website: www.takebackthe20.com is showing down or has been hit with a lot of requests to view it, but this PalinPAC site features Giffords district in crosshairs.

I was able to view some of the site. If you toggle your browser to www.takebackthe20.com/candidates you should be able to see something with Gifford's name.

God be with the Congresswoman and the families that were involved today.

Posted by: Nole1 | January 8, 2011 2:43 PM | Report abuse

Hmm. I suppose that the folks rushing to blame conservatives as a whole for this also blame liberals for John Allen Muhammad's attacks on our "racist society". Or blame liberals for the environmental terrorism of ELF. Or blame liberals for Abdul Hakim Mujahid Muhammad's shooting of a US soldier rooted in his anti-war views.

Of course they won't do that. Doing so would be silly, kind of like their attempts to blame conservatives for this tragedy.

Posted by: bobmoses | January 8, 2011 2:42 PM | Report abuse

Hopefully a silver lining can be found from this-- one that restores integrity on our social media and in our political process.

God bless giffords and all who are hurt from this horrific event.

Posted by: dickcheney1 | January 8, 2011 2:42 PM | Report abuse

On MSNBC Hospital PA Staff states she is a live in surgery

Posted by: Finnegen | January 8, 2011 2:42 PM | Report abuse

So, Congresswomen Giffords,

How that Obama Care vote working out for you?

Posted by: Jonathan_Swift | January 8, 2011 2:42 PM | Report abuse

Prayers for her family.

You don't need a gun unless you're a hunter? Spoken like a mindless leftist. Someone breaks into your home and threatens your life. You have no firearms in the house - you rely on the police.

How many minutes will it take the police to arrive? Far too many if the criminal is armed with anything.

I've run into this situation personally. You're kidding yourself if you think there is no need for self-defense in the modern world.

And to say that there is no chance anyone could have done anything in today's situation if they were armed is simply silliness. Maybe. Maybe not. I'd much rather be armed and ready and never need it than need it and not have it.

If you wish to be an unarmed victim walking through life, lib, that's your right. Hope you'll never regret that decision.

Posted by: jmpickett | January 8, 2011 2:42 PM | Report abuse

This is the harvest of the years of vitriol from the right-wing hate media industry. Rush, Fox news, ... High profile pundits have made their own personal fortunes beating the drums of hate and fear and grievance. And acts like this are the result. This same playbook has been used before to catastrophic effect. Look what it did to the German people of the 1930's.

Boycott the hate merchants.

Posted by: cleatus1 | January 8, 2011 2:42 PM | Report abuse

Liberals! Reichstag fire!

Posted by: spkjobs | January 8, 2011 2:42 PM | Report abuse

Right-wing extremist demagogues like Sarah P, Glenn B and the assorted lazy-asses are responsible for this. They have raised the level of hate and stupidity in this great country to unprecedented levels and are sitting back and enjoying the show with their millions of $s. Shame on every one of them and their fans.

Posted by: Nparry | January 8, 2011 2:42 PM | Report abuse

What have we come to? Why don't you ask Obama? He and his brownshirts wanted to shut down FoxNews, put the Republicans at the back of the bus, refused to listen to any of our concerns about the so-called Healthcare overhaul, have decided to track us on the internet, etc., etc., etc. Why don't you ask Obama what we've come to? Obama is responsible for this killing!

Posted by: georges2 | January 8, 2011 2:41 PM | Report abuse

The shooter is a terrorist and should be treat as such.Let's see what happens though.

Posted by: Weave160 | January 8, 2011 2:41 PM | Report abuse

The shooter is a terrorist and should be treat as such.Let's see what happens though.

Posted by: Weave160 | January 8, 2011 2:41 PM | Report abuse

The shooter is a terrorist and should be treat as such.Let's see what happens though.

Posted by: Weave160 | January 8, 2011 2:41 PM | Report abuse

The police has just confirmed that the shooter is a WHITE MAN. Not a mexican or muslim.
Sorry right-wingers.

Posted by: sgtpepper23 | January 8, 2011 2:41 PM | Report abuse

Hopefully a silver lining can be found from this-- one that restores integrity on our social media and in our political process.

God bless giffords and all who are hurt from this horrific event.

Posted by: dickcheney1 | January 8, 2011 2:41 PM | Report abuse

I imagine this is just another example of 2nd Amendment "justice" of the type threatened by Sharon Angle and other right wing politicians!!

Posted by: Freethotlib | January 8, 2011 2:41 PM | Report abuse

I mourn her untimely death, and pray for her soul and her family and friends.

Bringing partisan politics into this kind of heinous crime is wrong.
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What if it was a political killing? Is it wrong then?

Posted by: mason08 | January 8, 2011 2:41 PM | Report abuse

No matter who the nut job (that shot her) says he represents, he doesn't represent them (whether left or right). There is also the possibility that it was someone objecting to the sealing of the border with Mexico. This is a tragedy and not the time for spewing your hatred (whether it's against the right or the left.)

Posted by: Georgetowner1 | January 8, 2011 2:41 PM | Report abuse

This is very sad. It is a reminder that no matter how angry one may be (myself included), violence is no answer.

Posted by: brwntrt | January 8, 2011 2:41 PM | Report abuse

Despite WAPO headline, not certain yet that she is dead. NPR (first to report that she was killed) has backed off that report and now is just saying there are "conflicting reports" regarding whether she was killed.

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Posted by: Aerowaz | January 8, 2011 2:40 PM | Report abuse

Palin had her on her crosshairs list. Theoretically that puts 19 other congresspeople in grave danger. There are too many nuts in the world for a public figure to use the word "reload" to make a point.

Posted by: jaxspp | January 8, 2011 2:40 PM | Report abuse

Prayers for her family.

You don't need a gun unless you're a hunter? Spoken like a mindless leftist. Someone breaks into your home and threatens your life. You have no firearms in the house - you rely on the police.

How many minutes will it take the police to arrive? Far too many if the criminal is armed with anything.

I've run into this situation personally. You're kidding yourself if you think there is no need for self-defense in the modern world.

And to say that there is no chance anyone could have done anything in today's situation if they were armed is simply silliness. Maybe. Maybe not. I'd much rather be armed and ready and never need it than need it and not have it.

If you wish to be an unarmed victim walking through life, lib, that's your right. Hope you'll never regret that decision.

Posted by: jmpickett | January 8, 2011 2:40 PM | Report abuse

From the Huffington Post:

... Matt Yglesias points out that an anti-Giffords event was held in June with the billing: "Get on Target for Victory in November. Help remove Gabrielle Giffords from office. Shoot a fully automatic M16 with Jesse Kelly."

Rep. Giffords was also on Sarah Palin's "target list."

As noted earlier, a gun was dropped at a Giffords event in 2009, and her office was vandalized in March.

Posted by: cile92 | January 8, 2011 2:40 PM | Report abuse

Obama's amerika..

Posted by: wewintheylose1 | January 8, 2011 2:39 PM | Report abuse

The WaPo story says nothing of her being dead so pipe down.

Posted by: screwjob23 | January 8, 2011 2:39 PM | Report abuse

I'm outraged that this lady,and others including a child,have lost their lives.My heart breaks for their families.May they rest in peace and God's loving embrace.

Posted by: bowspray | January 8, 2011 2:39 PM | Report abuse

It's usually been the case that assassins in America have been either leftwingtards, or Democrats, or those affiliated with Democrats like the Islamofascists.

Odds are that since NO ONE has said anything about the who/whats of this killer that he's just another in a long line of mind-numbed, robot-like, knee-jerk Leftwingtards.

Dollars to doughnuts on that one!

Posted by: muawiyah | January 8, 2011 2:39 PM | Report abuse

Democrats are so HAPPY about her death!

Read their comments here.

Liberals are absolutely giddy!!!!

Posted by: Nobama__in___2012 | January 8, 2011 2:39 PM | Report abuse

The Republicans have effectively lost a large percentage of independent voters with this sole action. Most independent voters believe we change or take out of office political figures in elections, not by assassination.
And the fact that bystanders were also killed makes this even more egregious.

Posted by: tylerkyle999 | January 8, 2011 2:39 PM | Report abuse

Prayers for her family.

You don't need a gun unless you're a hunter? Spoken like a mindless leftist. Someone breaks into your home and threatens your life. You have no firearms in the house - you rely on the police.

How many minutes will it take the police to arrive? Far too many if the criminal is armed with anything.

I've run into this situation personally. You're kidding yourself if you think there is no need for self-defense in the modern world.

And to say that there is no chance anyone could have done anything in today's situation if they were armed is simply silliness. Maybe. Maybe not. I'd much rather be armed and ready and never need it than need it and not have it.

If you wish to be an unarmed victim walking through life, lib, that's your right. Hope you'll never regret that decision.

Posted by: jmpickett | January 8, 2011 2:39 PM | Report abuse

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Gabrielle Giffords, a Democratic congresswoman from Arizona, was shot and killed today at a public event outside a grocery store.

A spokesman for the Pima County sheriff says that at least 12 people were shot, with at least 6 fatalities. The Tucson Citizen reports that Rep. Giffords was "shot point blank in the head."

Rep. Giffords, an Arizona Democrat, was first elected to the House in 2006. She represents the state's 8th Congressional District.

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2:31 PM ET Still Alive?

MSNBC says a surgeon on the scene claims that Giffords is still alive, in critical condition.
2:30 PM ET Chilling

While there is no hard evidence at this point to suggest that the shooting was politically motivated, Matt Yglesias points out that an anti-Giffords event was held in June with the billing: "Get on Target for Victory in November. Help remove Gabrielle Giffords from office. Shoot a fully automatic M16 with Jesse Kelly."

Rep. Giffords was also on Sarah Palin's "target list."

Posted by: Slumdog | January 8, 2011 2:39 PM | Report abuse

WAPO

THERE ARE CONFLICTING REPORTS ABOUT WHETHER SHE IS DEAD OR STILL ALIVE.

A HOSPITAL SPOKESPERSON SAID THAT SHE IS STILL ALIVE, BUT SEVERAL OTHERS HAVE BEEN INJURED AND/OR KILLED.

PLEASE CHANGE YOUR TITLE ON THIS ARTICLE, WAPO!

Posted by: lcarter0311 | January 8, 2011 2:39 PM | Report abuse

http://www.giffordsforcongress.com/about/bio/

She was a Blue Dog and a gun owner.

She was tough on immigration and border security.

Better watch who you are blaming. This may have been a drug hit.

Posted by: grunk | January 8, 2011 2:39 PM | Report abuse


You reap what you sow. AND BY GOD, the loud mouth, angry, screaming conservatives who've railed and ranted for two years
have set the tone for this.
ANd who knows what else. The posts so far above show what nasty, fetid children
compriese the Tea Party Right. Let them
twist in the wind of it.

Posted by: whistling | January 8, 2011 2:39 PM | Report abuse

@Nobama__in___2012

What an ugly, contemptible remark. Not just Democrats, but everyone with an ounce of decency is shocked and appalled by this violent attack on innocent people and on our democracy. Our prayers are with those hurt or killed and with their families and friends.

Posted by: tm13 | January 8, 2011 2:38 PM | Report abuse

We are quickly falling into 1930 Germany.

Posted by: alex35332 | January 8, 2011 2:38 PM | Report abuse

Prayers for her family.

You don't need a gun unless you're a hunter? Spoken like a mindless leftist. Someone breaks into your home and threatens your life. You have no firearms in the house - you rely on the police.

How many minutes will it take the police to arrive? Far too many if the criminal is armed with anything.

I've run into this situation personally. You're kidding yourself if you think there is no need for self-defense in the modern world.

And to say that there is no chance anyone could have done anything in today's situation if they were armed is simply silliness. Maybe. Maybe not. I'd much rather be armed and ready and never need it than need it and not have it.

If you wish to be an unarmed victim walking through life, lib, that's your right. Hope you'll never regret that decision.

Posted by: jmpickett | January 8, 2011 2:38 PM | Report abuse

Please, out of respect for the Congresswoman's family, close this comment section.

Posted by: lynnmwillis | January 8, 2011 2:38 PM | Report abuse

Democrats are so HAPPY about her death!
Go read Arianna Huffington's blog.
Liberals are absolutely giddy!!!!

Posted by: Nobama__in___2012 | January 8, 2011 2:35 PM | Report abuse
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WHERE ARE THE WAPO EDITORS?!?!


This "NOBAMA" person is on here right after a tragedy (a dead democratic congress woman) and he's continuing to try to rile up hate against Democrats.


BAN THIS "NOBAMA" PERSON, NOW WAPO!!!!

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Posted by: DrainYou | January 8, 2011 2:38 PM | Report abuse

No one knows who killed this woman and why, until all of the facts of the matter have been gathered. May she rest in peace.

Posted by: hared | January 8, 2011 2:38 PM | Report abuse

What have we become?

Posted by: drjillshackford1 | January 8, 2011 2:38 PM | Report abuse

My sympathies and prayers go out to Rep. Giffords' family and to the families of all those killed or injured during this dreadful attack.

This is why we *need* strong gun control laws in the U.S., laws that are *stringently* enforced.

The gun lobby and the politicians in their pay are - in their blind, slavish devotion to their mis-interpretation of the Second Amendment - arming every wacko and malcontent. This is a form of homegrown terrorism - plain and simple.

How many innocent Americans have to die before we put a stop to the power and influence of the gun lobby and the carnage they cause?

Posted by: laSerenissima2003 | January 8, 2011 2:38 PM | Report abuse

After years of hate in Arizona you get a political killing.... Surprise? Texas was a state built on hate when Kennedy was shot. Perfect place to shoot him. We are pretty much back to the same place we were in the 1960's. Rand Paul saying he don't want to eat with black folks. I can't believe someone hasn't been allowed to shoot Obama. I voted for him and I fear for his life daily.

Posted by: rking8 | January 8, 2011 2:38 PM | Report abuse

"Welcome to Rush Limbaughland. This is what he wants.

Posted by: frodot"

Hmm. So since you are accusing him of being an evil man who incites murder, I assume that you would feel some responsibility if he got shot.

Hateful losers complaining about others being hateful is laughable. Evaluate yourself, hypocrite.

Posted by: bobmoses | January 8, 2011 2:38 PM | Report abuse

I'm outraged that this lady,and others including a child,have lost their lives.My heart breaks for their families.May they rest in peace and God's loving embrace.

Posted by: bowspray | January 8, 2011 2:37 PM | Report abuse

Another victim of hate radio from Florida.

Posted by: billsimpson451 | January 8, 2011 2:37 PM | Report abuse

How can nasa function when all the rocket scientists are here posting? HEY, DO THIS IN ORDER. First, rush to judgement. Second, blame a group you do not like. Third, generalize and state that everyone in that group thinks exactly alike and has 100% identical beliefs. Fourth, judge everyone in every group based on one person, EXCEPT YOUR OWN GROUP. Poor nasa.

Posted by: pervleft | January 8, 2011 2:37 PM | Report abuse

Giffords was a blue-dog democrat, who was pro- gun rights, and pro- border control.
It's far more likely that she was killed by a disgruntled leftist.

possibly someone who reads the Daily Kos;

http://tinyurl.com/2bx2rlx

Posted by: MrMeaner | January 8, 2011 2:37 PM | Report abuse

was the killer a young muslim? TRouble ahead if it was.

Posted by: davsthoughts | January 8, 2011 2:37 PM | Report abuse

was the killer a young muslim? TRouble ahead if it was.

Posted by: davsthoughts | January 8, 2011 2:37 PM | Report abuse

Is America a third world country???? This is crazy....I know it's free speech but the inflamatory vitrol spewed out of talk radio ad nauseum certainly can insite the fringes of society to "take down" those who, according to the rheteract are under-mining our American way of life. Do they think this will make them a hero to the tea-partiers? I'm so ashamed!

Posted by: phylb1231 | January 8, 2011 2:36 PM | Report abuse

was the killer a young muslim? TRouble ahead if it was.

Posted by: davsthoughts | January 8, 2011 2:36 PM | Report abuse

One less Leftist? Hip hip hooray!

Posted by: wewintheylose1 | January 8, 2011 2:36 PM | Report abuse

I mourn her untimely death, and pray for her soul and her family and friends.

Bringing partisan politics into this kind of heinous crime is wrong.

Posted by: Jack43 | January 8, 2011 2:36 PM | Report abuse


I have a full confession by the GOP's national committee (RNC) and its legal counsel that they intend to negate our country's constitution and our Bill of Rights. The confession is in writing. Who do I contact?

Posted by: ww902 | January 8, 2011 2:36 PM | Report abuse

It's time for Federal Agents to start controlling the hate mongers and right wing fringe elements - including the hate mongers and racists in the Tea Party.
If they don't we'll become a banana republic.

There are plenty of prisons to put these people in while the Federal Government (FBI, Justice Department) is gathering information to try them as terrorists.

This activity is an extension of Sarah Palin's hate speeches during the 2008 campaign.
John McCain is partly responsible for this kind of behavior since he allowed (encouraged?) Palin to continue with her hate and racist speeches for a long time before he finally put a leash around her. Following the election, Palin and others have kept up their hate speeches and radicalism that has led directly to this event.

Posted by: tylerkyle999 | January 8, 2011 2:36 PM | Report abuse

It's time for Federal Agents to start controlling the hate mongers and right wing fringe elements - including the hate mongers and racists in the Tea Party.
If they don't we'll become a banana republic.

There are plenty of prisons to put these people in while the Federal Government (FBI, Justice Department) is gathering information to try them as terrorists.

This activity is an extension of Sarah Palin's hate speeches during the 2008 campaign.
John McCain is partly responsible for this kind of behavior since he allowed (encouraged?) Palin to continue with her hate and racist speeches for a long time before he finally put a leash around her. Following the election, Palin and others have kept up their hate speeches and radicalism that has led directly to this event.

Posted by: tylerkyle999 | January 8, 2011 2:36 PM | Report abuse

It's so typical watching the leftists using this tragedy to call for the outlawing of differing political opinion and banning all other political parties.
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I don't want opposing opinions outlawed. I would just prefer that those opposing opinions weren't followed by, "...or we'll just kill you all." That's not a reasonable request, is it?

Posted by: mason08 | January 8, 2011 2:36 PM | Report abuse

It's time for Federal Agents to start controlling the hate mongers and right wing fringe elements - including the hate mongers and racists in the Tea Party.
If they don't we'll become a banana republic.

There are plenty of prisons to put these people in while the Federal Government (FBI, Justice Department) is gathering information to try them as terrorists.

This activity is an extension of Sarah Palin's hate speeches during the 2008 campaign.
John McCain is partly responsible for this kind of behavior since he allowed (encouraged?) Palin to continue with her hate and racist speeches for a long time before he finally put a leash around her. Following the election, Palin and others have kept up their hate speeches and radicalism that has led directly to this event.

Posted by: tylerkyle999 | January 8, 2011 2:36 PM | Report abuse

It's time for Federal Agents to start controlling the hate mongers and right wing fringe elements - including the hate mongers and racists in the Tea Party.
If they don't we'll become a banana republic.

There are plenty of prisons to put these people in while the Federal Government (FBI, Justice Department) is gathering information to try them as terrorists.

This activity is an extension of Sarah Palin's hate speeches during the 2008 campaign.
John McCain is partly responsible for this kind of behavior since he allowed (encouraged?) Palin to continue with her hate and racist speeches for a long time before he finally put a leash around her. Following the election, Palin and others have kept up their hate speeches and radicalism that has led directly to this event.

Posted by: tylerkyle999 | January 8, 2011 2:35 PM | Report abuse

"Just amazing that the biggest haters can't see themselves for what they are. "
Posted by: MrsWhatsit

No you can't can you? Good lord you people are hypocrites.

Posted by: bobmoses | January 8, 2011 2:35 PM | Report abuse

Welcome to Rush Limbaughland. This is what he wants.

Posted by: frodot | January 8, 2011 2:35 PM | Report abuse

Don't jump to conclusions on the perp. Could easily be a right wing nutjob, but could also just be some wacko.
We'll learn soon enough.

Posted by: jeadpt | January 8, 2011 2:35 PM | Report abuse

Leftist hyper-partisans are breathlessly blaming conservatives, "tea baggers" and so on. The leftists posting here should remember that most if not all assassins (excluding rebel radical JW Booth) were leftists, anarchists or communists.

Wait until the facts come out before any of you make accusations. It's no wonder that the "new normal" in this country may include political killings by rabid partisans. Just think about who would benefit from such killings. Certainly not citizens who support the Constitution and the civil society.

Posted by: ecartr5 | January 8, 2011 2:35 PM | Report abuse

So this is how the Republicans and Tea Partiers choose to govern? Shoot anyone who disagrees with you? As of today, I officially cease calling myself a Republican. I want nothing to do with a party of fascists. Whether the person who did the shooting was republican or a tea partier or not, the comments by the neo-cons here are revolting.

Posted by: Lee1865 | January 8, 2011 2:35 PM | Report abuse

In the name of all decency and in respect and grief for the slain Congresswoman, close this comments section.

Posted by: kim4 | January 8, 2011 2:35 PM | Report abuse

this is a time to pray and wait for FACTS.
This is a national trajedy.

Posted by: nomasgringas | January 8, 2011 2:35 PM | Report abuse

Giffords was one of the "targets" on Sarah Palin's campaign map. Wow, what a bunch of lunatics!

Posted by: Slumdog | January 8, 2011 2:35 PM | Report abuse

I'm happy to bet next month's paycheck


This was politically motivated, even if done by a right wing nutjob/domestic terrorist.


She was targeted on the SarahPac campaign--literally, crosshairs on Gifford's district and Gifford listed by name.


The shooter was white, young, "cleancut." He called the victims by name.


It was at a meet-your-congressperson even, with Gifford's name on a banner.

This is the climate of violence that the right has been working for since Obama was elected. It was inevitable.


And it was 100% political,.

Take a bow Faux News and Druggy Rush Limbaugh! All your hard work has finally paid off.


.

Posted by: DrainYou | January 8, 2011 2:35 PM | Report abuse

Democrats are so HAPPY about her death!

Go read Arianna Huffington's blog.

Liberals are absolutely giddy!!!!

Posted by: Nobama__in___2012 | January 8, 2011 2:35 PM | Report abuse

Thanks Sarah Palin, for "don't retreat, reload." This was sadly inevitable.

Posted by: motogp46 | January 8, 2011 2:35 PM | Report abuse

Political violence has been exacerbated in the Mideast by the military-industrial and AIPAC wings of the US Government for decades. Why would you now find political assassinations here at home so shocking? Perhaps it's only the chickens coming home to roost or for the more spiritually inclined--Karma.

Posted by: slim21 | January 8, 2011 2:34 PM | Report abuse

For those who are pointing at right or left as instigators of this horrible event, just remember that guns respect no ideology. Let's settle down, pray for all involved, and see what ensues in the way of suspects.

Posted by: VPaterno | January 8, 2011 2:34 PM | Report abuse

The Congresswoman was shot in front of a Safeway Super Market. Apparently they will have to change their name as they are unable to provide a level of safety.

Her husband is active military.

Posted by: Hazmat77 | January 8, 2011 2:34 PM | Report abuse

It's time for Federal Agents to start controlling the hate mongers and right wing fringe elements - including the hate mongers and racists in the Tea Party.
If they don't we'll become a banana republic.

There are plenty of prisons to put these people in while the Federal Government (FBI, Justice Department) is gathering information to try them as terrorists.

This activity is an extension of Sarah Palin's hate speeches during the 2008 campaign.
John McCain is partly responsible for this kind of behavior since he allowed (encouraged?) Palin to continue with her hate and racist speeches for a long time before he finally put a leash around her. Following the election, Palin and others have kept up their hate speeches and radicalism that has led directly to this event.

Posted by: tylerkyle999 | January 8, 2011 2:34 PM | Report abuse

"To the right-wing apologists, sorry, but you own this. The GOP is nothing but demagoguery."

Right, but your demagoguery (as evidenced above) is just fine.

You are a hypocrite. Not because you are a liberal, but because you don't practice what you preach.

Are you guys really claiming a high ground when it comes to rhetoric? Can you not read these comments?

Posted by: bobmoses | January 8, 2011 2:34 PM | Report abuse

FIRST: Be very clear; this was not the act of a "conservative;" this was the act of a nut! And FOX, Palin, et al are not "conservative." They incite hatred and violence. And for anyone to assert that Democrats are "happy" about this is insane. Crazy is as crazy does. Time for sane people---and true Christians--to speak out against this lunacy. Be nice if some sermons tomorrow condemned this brutality and hatred. (What are the odds?)

Posted by: HillNo | January 8, 2011 2:34 PM | Report abuse

I live in scottsdale arizona.

this doesn't surprise me one bit.

many people here are ignorant and afraid - and easily manipulated by scare-tactics.

many people here sincerely believe that terrorists are trying to kill them. they sincerely believe that Obama is the manchurian candidate. they sincerely believe that mexican immigrants are criminals.

although they claim to love America, they do not know what is written in the U.S. Constitution.

and though they claim to be be Christian, they do not know the ten commandments, nor the sermon on the mount.

they are fundamentally ignorant. and the likes of Palin and Beck are taking full advantage.

the result is tragedy.

Posted by: johnlindauer | January 8, 2011 2:34 PM | Report abuse

Thank goodness she was just a democrat..

Posted by: wewintheylose1

Here you have it folks. The epitome of a "Christian Nation" brought to you by Fox News.

Posted by: areyousaying | January 8, 2011 2:33 PM | Report abuse

Beyond tragic...

6 fatalities? Just sickening.

Posted by: xfactor211 | January 8, 2011 2:33 PM | Report abuse

They are now reporting that Gabriella Giffords is still ALIVE, but in CRITICAL condition.

Posted by: lcarter0311 | January 8, 2011 2:33 PM | Report abuse

They also just took down http://www.takebackthe20.com/

Posted by: ScoutieDog | January 8, 2011 2:33 PM | Report abuse

In the name of all decency and in respect and grief for the slain Congresswoman, close this comments section.

Posted by: kim4 | January 8, 2011 2:33 PM | Report abuse

A woman was killed! She did not deserve this regardless of her politics! The mean-spirited comments are sickening. Pray for her family and for the deranged person who did this. He will receive the ultimate punishment from God!

Posted by: lilahkelly | January 8, 2011 2:32 PM | Report abuse

It is truly sad to see that even in this thread about such an awful tragedy, the hate comes through. Can we please stop saying things like "at least she was a Democrat?" This was a human being who was taken down by someone who felt it was their right to do so. No matter what your political persuasion, this must be recognized as the tragedy it is and we must all consider what this says about us as Americans. We need to tone down the rhetoric and start respecting our different opinions. No-one has a hold on the truth or all the answers. It is not ok to suggest, even via a metaphor, that it is ok to kill another. Maybe if we admit this, then the conversation will change.

Posted by: lisashap | January 8, 2011 2:32 PM | Report abuse

"Last March, Giffords was one of 10 House Democrats who were the subject of harassment over their support for the national health care overhaul. At the time, the front door of Giffords' Tucson office had been shattered in an early morning incident."

Because she VOTED AGAINST the OBAMA/REID/PELOSI unholy take-over.

Hearing reports that the shooter is a young male, late teens or early 20s... gee? what demographic that that fit?

She was married to a NASA Astronaut, and was a military wife, pro-life and a practicing Catholic. She was against embryonic stem cell research, and pro-border security.

I think all you who are saying it's someone that is pro-constitutional governance, you are need to look to yourselves. G-d help us if this is Obama's Reichstag Moment.

Posted by: sdent60 | January 8, 2011 2:32 PM | Report abuse

some commenter says: "And why do we act so aghast at "politicizing" such an act? She's a political figure. It's perfectly logical to see the act as political."

No, it's not. The latest reports are that six others may also be dead and about a dozen total were hurt. Were they all political figures? Is there any evidence -- yet -- that the gunman knew who he was shooting at? No, there's not, and until there is, there is no logic -- only emotion, hate, and wishful thinking -- in insisting that the culprit must be the politics you love to loathe.

Just amazing that the biggest haters can't see themselves for what they are. This is not an event to use for political advantage. Those of you who could not wait to do so should be ashamed.

Posted by: MrsWhatsit | January 8, 2011 2:32 PM | Report abuse

The partisan comments are baseless and senseless. This shooting is not a right, left, or independent attack; it is a crazed attack.

Posted by: judithod | January 8, 2011 2:32 PM | Report abuse

I can't stand most dems but these "2nd amendment" tea baggers have to be treated as the traitorous terrorist scum they are. They keep talking about shedding blood so law enforcement should give them their wish. They have got to go.

Posted by: jm125 | January 8, 2011 2:32 PM | Report abuse

"You swarmy, hate mongering douch-ebag. Crawl back under your rock. I hope you take one between your eyes, dimwit."

Ah, another tolerant and intellectual liberal. Good thing you guys don't engage in harsh rhetoric.

Spare us your hypocrisy.

Posted by: bobmoses | January 8, 2011 2:31 PM | Report abuse

CTgirl3 ..... NRA doesn't do background checks.

Yours and the comments obviously coming from crazed leftwing radical agitators are fresh evidence of the massive stupidity surrounding us.


Oh ooops sorry my bad. They just devalue background checks. I actually speak from some experience - I have a friend who was living in Virginia and thought since he ate meat it would be good to understand how guns work, etc. He went through gun training, etc and a) he personally witnessed three people mess up loading guns who were still able to get a permit and b) an NRA rep came to his final day of class and literally said "Obama is becoming our president, it's especially important that we protect our 2nd amendment rights now"The problem with you and people like you is that you never seem to consider the possibility that guns ARE NOT necessary for modern living. Unless you're a hunter you DON'T *NEED* a gun. Even if this congresswoman had been carrying one or one of her staff had been, there is no way you can react quickly enough to protect yourself against a deranged person. That's just a fact.

I'm sorry you think liberals are stupid. Unfortunately, the evidence doesn't support you.

Posted by: CTgirl3 | January 8, 2011 2:31 PM | Report abuse

Our prayers for this family, the state of Arizona and the nation!

Psalm 23
John 14:1-14

Posted by: yeslovelife | January 8, 2011 2:31 PM | Report abuse

rcc, the label of traitor could also be applied to you. Under the Constitution we the People are guaranteed the right to bear arms. We are also given the right to replace the government if it becomes too oppressive. Having said that, this shooting was by no means justified, and we are not to the point of violent revolution. We choose to make our fight in the battlefield of ideas and have the confidence that our ideas will sustain this great country.

Posted by: LifeTraveler | January 8, 2011 2:31 PM | Report abuse

To the right-wing apologists, sorry, but you own this. The GOP is nothing but demagoguery.

Posted by: preach_humanism | January 8, 2011 2:31 PM | Report abuse

In Roseto, Pa., a carnival company closed down a shooter game called "Alien Attack," after complaints and news stories that President Obama was one of the targets.

The black "alien leader" is holding a scroll titled "Health Bill" and wearing a presidential seal belt buckle. He also has antennae and a troll doll with a KISS T-shirt on his shoulder.

Posted by: okiedeadhead | January 8, 2011 2:31 PM | Report abuse

Gun, guns, guns, guns
manly guns
owwooooo owwwwoooo owwwooo

Posted by: areyousaying | January 8, 2011 2:31 PM | Report abuse

From a conservative, once upon a time radical lefty (Both Sides Now): most of you people are nuts!

Posted by: soxes | January 8, 2011 2:31 PM | Report abuse

All of you who are making partisan comments should realize you are part of the problem, not the solution. You are the ones creating a milieu of hostility in which people think it is acceptable to resort to violence.

Posted by: binaryboy | January 8, 2011 2:26 PM |
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Thanks, David Broder.

Shorter binaryboy: See, those people who are against torture and those who fap...fap...fap to it are equally to blame for torture.

You are to blame, binaryboy. Along with the psychos you enable with your meaningless "both sides do it" babble.
~

Posted by: ifthethunderdontgetya | January 8, 2011 2:31 PM | Report abuse

Republican Nazi butcher

Posted by: hsolares | January 8, 2011 2:30 PM | Report abuse

This is why I've just totally tuned out of politics. I don't vote anymore because so much energy is wasted on party politics instead of representing the people of this country.

I just pay my taxes and whatever change I see needs fixing I just do it myself. Trash on the side of the road, I go home get a trash bag go back out and clean it up. My child's school has graffiti on the walls, I along with other parents go to Home Depot buy the paint, dry wall, and sand paper and fix it. Test scores are down in the school? I volunteer to tutor when I can with the students.

Our so called public officials, Republican, Democrat, Independent, Co-Dependent, Communist, Socialist, Red, Blue, Green, it doesn't matter. Those folks are in it for themselves. They could care less about you or me, and they spew rhetoric around to just separate and further divide us. No party is more guilty than the other, they all do it. And things like what happen today in Arizona is the result. I'm just fed up with it all. We're just as divided as a nation as we were in 60's, this time instead of race, its party affiliations, how stupid is that?

Posted by: clark202 | January 8, 2011 2:30 PM | Report abuse

Want to see something interesting? Go *like* Sarah Palin's facebook click on the stream that allows you to see comments posted by others. The comments are coming fast and furiousm slamming Sarah, connecting her lock and load rhetoric to this shooting, and she's deleting them as fast as folks can post them. Apparently she is also blocking folks so they can't post again, as I went back to the page to post asking why my comment was removed and now there is no "post" icon available to me.

Posted by: ScoutieDog | January 8, 2011 2:30 PM | Report abuse

Now they are reporting that Gabriell Gifford is still "ALIVE", but in CRITICAL condition.

Posted by: lcarter0311 | January 8, 2011 2:30 PM | Report abuse

Message to Felicia Sonmez and her editors:

Please, in the name of human decency, close this topic to public comment.

Posted by: Nosy_Parker | January 8, 2011 2:30 PM | Report abuse

"Republicans don't retreat, they reload" - Sarah Palin


"Americans (Republicans) are going to have to start using 2nd Amendment remedies if the voters don't get it right." - Sharron Angle


ENOUGH SAID...!


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Posted by: DrainYou | January 8, 2011 2:29 PM | Report abuse

Hmm. I suppose that the folks rushing to blame conservatives as a whole for this also blame liberals for John Allen Muhammad's attacks on our "racist society". Or blame liberals for the environmental terrorism of ELF. Or blame liberals for Abdul Hakim Mujahid Muhammad's shooting of a US soldier rooted in his anti-war views.

Of course they won't do that of course. Doing so would be silly, kind of like their attempts to blame conservatives for this tragedy.

Posted by: bobmoses | January 8, 2011 2:29 PM | Report abuse

Ofcourse it's a crazed right wing Republican that shot her. Her office was shot up last March right after the health care vote, and she voted in favor of the bill. The repeal vote of the healthcare reform bill is to take place next week, by the House Republicans. The connection is clear.

Posted by: cile92 | January 8, 2011 2:29 PM | Report abuse

Any bets, "wewintheylose" is a liberal? The Conservatives I know just don't think like that.

Posted by: bflat879 | January 8, 2011 2:29 PM | Report abuse

This i what you get for ruling against the will of the left.


She was against the "public option" and compromised with the left (not the far left) for that disgusting health care law.

She was also for sealing the border with Mexico. So, no doubt, it was a Mexican drug runner or their far left allies in the U.S. who shot her.

Posted by: FormerDemocrat | January 8, 2011 2:29 PM | Report abuse

Hmm. I suppose that the folks rushing to blame conservatives as a whole for this also blame liberals for John Allen Muhammad's attacks on our "racist society". Or blame liberals for the environmental terrorism of ELF. Or blame liberals for Abdul Hakim Mujahid Muhammad's shooting of a US soldier rooted in his anti-war views.

Of course they won't do that of course. Doing so would be silly, kind of like their attempts to blame conservatives for this tragedy.

Posted by: bobmoses | January 8, 2011 2:29 PM | Report abuse

Great opportunity for liberals to blame, Talk Radio, Conservatives, Christians, Glenn Beck and/or Sara Palin. pro-lifers and last but not least Global warming "Climate change" "deniers"

Posted by: spkjobs | January 8, 2011 2:29 PM | Report abuse

Keep ramming laws down people's throats against their will Leftists..
Posted by: wewintheylose1 | January 8, 2011
2:21 PM
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You swarmy, hate mongering douch-ebag. Crawl back under your rock. I hope you take one between your eyes, dimwit.

Posted by: mooncusser | January 8, 2011 2:28 PM | Report abuse

screwjob23 ... apparently then the shooter is not a crazed rightwinger -- too young and not smart enough to make sure he had enough rounds left to disable anyone seeking to capture him.

Undoubtedly a radical leftwinger paid to make it appear that the Rightwing is resorting to violence.

From a political perspective, since the Republicans captured control of the House, there is no political reason to kill off the minority...this smacks of a putup job or a kid with a loose screw or two.

Posted by: Hazmat77 | January 8, 2011 2:28 PM | Report abuse

the longer it takes for the cops to tell us what this shooter is all about, the more it will point at a leftist or terrorist.

Posted by: 12thgenamerican | January 8, 2011 2:28 PM | Report abuse

Hmm. I suppose that the folks rushing to blame conservatives as a whole for this also blame liberals for John Allen Muhammad's attacks on our "racist society". Or blame liberals for the environmental terrorism of ELF. Or blame liberals for Abdul Hakim Mujahid Muhammad's shooting of a US soldier rooted in his anti-war views.

Of course they won't do that of course. Doing so would be silly, kind of like their attempts to blame conservatives for this tragedy.

Posted by: bobmoses | January 8, 2011 2:28 PM | Report abuse

It's no surprise that in a hyper-partisan political environment that Obama and his ilk continuously feed with inflammatory rhetoric, that tragedies like this might happen. Tragedies such as this arise when there is little respect for the Constitution or for the civil society that is necessary to insure that the vision of the founding fathers continues.

We'll see if this "crisis" goes to waste or not.

Posted by: ecartr5 | January 8, 2011 2:28 PM | Report abuse

It's so typical watching the leftists using this tragedy to call for the outlawing of differing political opinion and banning all other political parties.

Those left-wing fascist tendencies are hard to keep submerged. never let a good crisis go to waste, I guess -- it's the Obama administration's motto.

Btw, where did all the war protests go?

Posted by: TheMSMControlsUs | January 8, 2011 2:28 PM | Report abuse

It's amazing to read the paid bashers of the right already spamming this board with their ignorant, hateful, and cruel comments

Posted by: ptrppr100 | January 8, 2011 2:27 PM | Report abuse

"One bigot after another, certain that this tragedy is the fault of Republicans,"

Yes. Almost as certain of that as we are certain that Islamists were responsible for 911.

Posted by: jhadv | January 8, 2011 2:27 PM | Report abuse

This is why I've just totally tuned out of politics. I don't vote anymore because so much energy is wasted on party politics instead of representing the people of this country.

I just pay my taxes and whatever change I see needs fixing I just do it myself. Trash on the side of the road, I go home get a trash bag go back out and clean it up. My child's school has graffiti on the walls, I along with other parents go to Home Depot buy the paint, dry wall, and sand paper and fix it. Test scores are down in the school? I volunteer to tutor when I can with the students.

Our so called public officials, Republican, Democrat, Independent, Co-Dependent, Communist, Socialist, Red, Blue, Green, it doesn't matter. Those folks are in it for themselves. They could care less about you or me, and they spew rhetoric around to just separate and further divide us. No party is more guilty than the other, they all do it. And things like what happen today in Arizona is the result. I'm just fed up with it all. We're just as divided as a nation as we were in 60's, this time instead of race, its party affiliations, how stupid is that?

Posted by: clark202 | January 8, 2011 2:27 PM | Report abuse

Only one political party rattles on about "reloading" and "second amendment remedies." Only one party seems fixated on claiming our President is not a citizen.

Do your really think you can continue this level of rhetoric w/o a few nut-cases taking it to the extreme? How many cases have we already had? Crashing planes into IRS headquarters, killing doctors, the deaths at the church in Penn. by a man who just read some right-wing garbage? How many more?

Boehner had his chance to make a firm statement about Obama's birthplace, but he chose to say he could not tell the birthers recently elected to Congress what to think. His weak-kneed stance -- only seems to be good on the golf course.

Posted by: okiedeadhead | January 8, 2011 2:27 PM | Report abuse

@ jules3621:

"Care to explain why a "leftist" would shoot a Democrat?"

Perhaps because she's pro-border security? Try doing some research before shaping an argument.

"More likely a young, drug-addled right-winger with a head full of Limbaugh/Beck hatred."

I thought they were all "angry OLD" white people? Also, feel free to quote the "hatred". I can quote some:

"She is a typical white person"

-Barack Obama, explaining why his white grandmother was apparently racist.

Show me where Beck or Limbaugh called a person "typical" for doing something negative, based on their race. Fake quotes spammed by CNN and MSNBC don't count, either. Quotes that were spammed for a week, then apologized for in a "tweet" that was buried immediately.

Also: Obama did cocaine... so there goes the drug argument too.

Enjoy your fail. I know I did.

Posted by: N37BU6 | January 8, 2011 2:27 PM | Report abuse

Democrats are so HAPPY about her death!
Go read Arianna Huffington's blog.
Liberals are absolutely giddy!!!!


Posted by: Nobama__in___2012 | January 8, 2011 2:24 PM | Report abuse
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Go lie somewhere else you Teabagger sociopath.


No one wants to hear your right wing bullSh*t today.


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Posted by: DrainYou | January 8, 2011 2:27 PM | Report abuse

Her blood is on your hands fox news.

Posted by: mojo975 | January 8, 2011 2:26 PM | Report abuse

News reported that the Congresswoman died; now somebody's wife, somebody's daughter, no doubt, somebody's friend is dead because some idiot disagreed with her point of view? This is absolutely disgraceful in the what is supposed to be the greatest country on earth. Absolutely disgraceful!

Posted by: guisher | January 8, 2011 2:26 PM | Report abuse

Wow you people are so full of hate! This is the same hate that you are railing against and leads those who are unstable (or maybe I should say more unstable) then all the people spewing their venom here to do these acts. Just because your preferred hate may not have done this doesn't justify your ridiculous statements. You people are obviously liberals and preach tolerance yet your actions are the exact opposite. THE RIGHT AND THE LEFT POLITICIANS MAKE A LIVING OFF PEOPLE LIKE YOU!!!! So keep making your prejudicial statements about a group of people and rail against the "others" ideologies prejudices. Hypocrisy!!! RIP Mrs. Giffords. Shame on you who want to tear apart others for something they had nothing to do with.

Posted by: Matthew22 | January 8, 2011 2:26 PM | Report abuse


Horrific.

Thoughts and prayers with the injured and friends and family of the dead.

And kudos to the bystander who tackled the suspect.

Posted by: Gidgmom | January 8, 2011 2:26 PM | Report abuse

All of you who are making partisan comments should realize you are part of the problem, not the solution. You are the ones creating a milieu of hostility in which people think it is acceptable to resort to violence.

Posted by: binaryboy | January 8, 2011 2:26 PM | Report abuse

What is it with liberals? I've heard of comedians always being "on" which may be fine with them, but Liberals? This is obviously a tragedy but to start with the Sarah Palin stuff is just plain stupid. You should all be ashamed of yourselves for trying to do this stuff.

I seriously doubt this person is a "law abiding citizen" but I'm more than willing to wait before commenting on that. I would hope the liberals would do the same rather than shame themselves any more.

Posted by: bflat879 | January 8, 2011 2:25 PM | Report abuse

I don't know, Martial, she was reportedly shot at point blank range. That seems pretty durn targeted to me.

You are, of course, correct to call for patience until more is known. Yes, it could be a crime of passion that took down a bunch of innocent souls at once.

But the external facts don't look that way at this juncture. But as you say, wait and see.

Posted by: lindsaycurren | January 8, 2011 2:25 PM | Report abuse

Outrageous, no matter the motivation. Outrageous. Needs a strong response from Arizona leaders as well as national. Outrageous.

Posted by: WashView | January 8, 2011 2:25 PM | Report abuse

Thank goodness she was just a democrat..

Posted by: wewintheylose1

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You are disgusting.

Here comes the Tea Party and their "2nd Amendment remedies". They are traitors.

Posted by: rcc_2000 | January 8, 2011 2:25 PM | Report abuse

I hope the police and secret service across the country increase security for all Democratic office bearers immediately.

Shameful day for American democracy if this was a politically incited murder fueled by the hateful rhetoric of the irresponsible.

Posted by: naud | January 8, 2011 2:25 PM | Report abuse

The GOP made Giffords a top target early on, and third party organizations poured millions into attack ads across the district. Giffords was on the receiving end of vicious television ads by the GOP, her office was vandalized, and she was placed on Sarah Palin's 'Take Back the 20' list, where Palin urged voters to 'reload in retaliation.' But in a district that leans towards the middle, Gabrielle Gifford's moderate voice and dedication to her constituents appealed to voters more than the Tea Party-favorite opponent's extreme, and backwards-looking rhetoric.

RIP Gabrielle == and perhaps our democracy.

Posted by: esthermiriam | January 8, 2011 2:25 PM | Report abuse

this is a time to pray and wait for FACTS. This is a national trajedy for all of us.

Posted by: nomasgringas | January 8, 2011 2:24 PM | Report abuse

LEFTIST MORONS - News flash! She was a conservative pro-second amendment, border security and pro-life, so it was more likely one of your mentally ill ilk that did it! DUMB LEFTIST SCUM!

Posted by: madmike272 | January 8, 2011 2:24 PM | Report abuse

Ms.Giffords was one of he 28 congressmen targeted by gunsights at Sarah Palin's political PAC' website.

It is truly amazing that John McCain chose this irresponible person to be his Vice Presidential runniig mate. McCain should resgin his Senate seat immediately and apologize for creating Palin as a national political force.

Posted by: SensibleOne | January 8, 2011 2:24 PM | Report abuse

"Really you A-hole? You politicize this tragedy?"

Well it was a political assissination so I think politics probably does enter into it don't ya think. Whomever the shooter was reportedly also killed the local DNC rep and her communications director. But you are truly amazing in your "Logic." By your rationale Kristallnacht was just random street rioting devoid of any political context.

Posted by: jhadv | January 8, 2011 2:24 PM | Report abuse

Democrats are so HAPPY about her death!

Go read Arianna Huffington's blog.

Liberals are absolutely giddy!!!!

Posted by: Nobama__in___2012 | January 8, 2011 2:24 PM | Report abuse

Assassinated by the the Tea Party. Hope it ends here and no other Dems die at the hands of right-wing extremists.

Posted by: rjohnson5 | January 8, 2011 2:23 PM | Report abuse

Way To Go Republicans!!


Your Hate Talk Is Finally Paying Off For You, You A-Holes!!


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Posted by: DrainYou | January 8, 2011 2:23 PM | Report abuse

I guess Sarah Palin has got what she wanted. A little water on the tree of liberty.

Posted by: 8-Man2 | January 8, 2011 2:23 PM | Report abuse

"Really you A-hole? You politicize this tragedy?"

Well it was a political assissination so I think politics probably does enter into it don't ya think. Whomever the shooter was reportedly also killed the local DNC rep and her communications director. But you are truly amazing in your "Logic." By your rationale Kristallnacht was just random street rioting devoid of any political context.

Posted by: jhadv | January 8, 2011 2:23 PM | Report abuse

My prayers are with her and anyone else injured and their families. This is nuts. The hate must stop. Why can't we disagree and work for change when we feel it's needed? The hate coming from the right wing radio hosts should be stopped immediately. She is one of the one's that idiot Palin targeted on a website on 9/24/10 with the headline: Palin targets health care law supporters on site". Hope she's happy one of them got hurt or, God forbid, killed. STOP THE HATE NOW. Refuse to watch or listen to the nuts that can't seem to be reasonable on so many subjects.

Posted by: capone1

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She is DEAD!

Shot point blank in the head.

Several others injured.

Posted by: lcarter0311 | January 8, 2011 2:22 PM | Report abuse

Here comes the Tea Party and their "2nd Amendment remedies"

Posted by: rcc_2000 | January 8, 2011 2:22 PM | Report abuse

This is terrible, but do not jump to conclusions. It may be that the target was not the Congresswoman, but someone associated with her who somehow aroused the wrath of organized crime. It may be that a disgruntled spouse of one of the victims went bonkers. The investigation will reveal the full story. Congressional representatives are hardly ever assassinated, the Jim Jones affair notwithstanding.

Posted by: Martial | January 8, 2011 2:22 PM | Report abuse

I guess Sarah Palin has got what she wanted. A little water on the tree of liberty.

Posted by: 8-Man2 | January 8, 2011 2:21 PM | Report abuse

Keep ramming laws down people's throats against their will Leftists..

Posted by: wewintheylose1 | January 8, 2011 2:21 PM | Report abuse

Even though the rhetoric on this thread is ramping up (who is to blame, etc.) it is worth considering that, unless this was just one of those entirely random shootings, shooter just picked a random supermarket and then randomly shot, it is not out of the realm of possibility to call it politically motivated.

Given that Giffords is a Democrat, one wouldn't be too far off base in concluding that a politically motivated shooting would be far more likely to issue from a political enemy, rather than a political friend. To that end, it seems fair to conclude that that enemy would be on the right, not the left.

After all, she supported the health care law. She's way into solar. She wants subsidies to oil to cease. She's an advocate for clean energy. Yes, she's more centrist than far left, but it would be hard to imagine that this young, vivacious leader would have political enemies on the left. Could be, but less probable.

And why do we act so aghast at "politicizing" such an act? She's a political figure. It's perfectly logical to see the act as political.

Again, it could be random. Or even if political, it can still be the actions of a nut job. I would think it would have to be a nut job. The whole lone wolf theory. But that doesn't mean it's NOT politically motivated. She's a political figure and this is an assassination attempt. Or, an assassination if NPR is correct in reporting now that she is dead.

Posted by: lindsaycurren | January 8, 2011 2:21 PM | Report abuse

Assassinated. Let Phoenix burn, it will arise from the ashes a better place.

Posted by: anarcho-liberal-tarian | January 8, 2011 2:21 PM | Report abuse

This is a tragedy for our country, may God help us all. I had hoped we were past this type of public violence. After this incident I am reminded of comments made on Sarah Palin's facebook site that exhort her followers to "RELOAD" in the fight against Democrats. It seems her followers took her posts too seriously.

Posted by: jmr862003 | January 8, 2011 2:21 PM | Report abuse

CTgirl3 ..... NRA doesn't do background checks.

Yours and the comments obviously coming from crazed leftwing radical agitators are fresh evidence of the massive stupidity surrounding us.

Posted by: Hazmat77 | January 8, 2011 2:20 PM | Report abuse

One bigot after another, certain that this tragedy is the fault of Republicans, Sarah Palin, the right wing, or Fox News. Did it occur to even one of you to wait until there's some actual evidence as to who did this before deciding to blame it on somebody you hate? All of you preaching about how awful political hatred is -- can't you see that by jumping to such hateful conclusions in the complete absence of any evidence at all, you are practicing and spreading the worst form of political hatred yourselves?

Whoever did this, it's an awful tragedy. Couldn't we set aside the venom, just once, and think about the people who are hurt or dead before trying to make political hay out of it?

Posted by: MrsWhatsit | January 8, 2011 2:20 PM | Report abuse

why dont we just pray and wait for the FACTS to come out... this is a national trajedy.

Posted by: nomasgringas | January 8, 2011 2:20 PM | Report abuse

Congratulations Fox News.

Posted by: SarahBB | January 8, 2011 2:20 PM | Report abuse

We are now a bona-fide Rwanda-like
country.

Posted by: youngWaPoreader | January 8, 2011 2:20 PM | Report abuse

Thank goodness she was just a democrat..

Posted by: wewintheylose1 | January 8, 2011 2:19 PM | Report abuse


More from Ariana Huffington's Post:

"I hope sarahPAINl­in is proud of herself right now."

"She was one of Palin's "targets" !!!"

"Remember Sarah Palin's bullseye map? Congresswo­­man Giffords was on it."


Liberals are so HAPPY about her death!


Posted by: Nobama__in___2012 | January 8, 2011 2:19 PM | Report abuse

Standing on this poor woman's corpse to make a partisan point is disgusting but expected.

Posted by: bobmoses | January 8, 2011 2:19 PM | Report abuse


You promised us the DREAM act, you had four years, you still didn't deliver, boom. The left eats its own.

Posted by: screwjob23 | January 8, 2011 2:19 PM | Report abuse

"Very sad. A liberal fanatic shooting and killing an elected conservative."

She was a Democratic congresswoman you moron. Learn how to read.

Posted by: CTgirl3 | January 8, 2011 2:19 PM | Report abuse

NPR reports that Congresswoman Giffords has died.

Posted by: 8-Man2 | January 8, 2011 2:18 PM | Report abuse

Unfortionately I am not suprised by this lunacy. Having heard so much similar rhetoric in the clubhouse at local golf club and later on the course, at my leisure, I casually make mention of watching some "news" program then listen for this guy's response and inevitably he responds that he only watches Fox and friends, Glenn Beck or Bill O'Reilly. Madness sheer madness.

Posted by: cp701 | January 8, 2011 2:18 PM | Report abuse

So sorry for all of this. Can't we put politics aside for one damn minute and just send condolences to Cong. Giffords's family and to the others who were injured?

Posted by: MajorConfusion | January 8, 2011 2:18 PM | Report abuse

TEA PARTY SHOOTING-Rep. Giffords


I have tried to warn the FCC and the general public for years that the right-wing AM Hate Radio hosts were inspiring violence towards Democrats and now the writing is on the wall.

This isn't the first act of violence by Limbaugh and Hannity and Beck listeners, but the FCC needs to re-instate the Fairness Doctrine in an effort to bring some reason to the national political debate and put a stop to this hateful insanity.

When these hate-talkers are allowed to go on and on for hundreds of hours a week on our public airwaves telling viscious lies about Liberals and American History AND THEY ARE UTTERLY UNCHALLENGED then acts such as this are bound to happen.

As I've said before, the likes of Glenn Beck, Hannity and Limbaugh leave their gullible audience with only one moral option...violence against the Liberals who their leaders have demonized.

CHIPSHIRLEY.COM

Posted by: ChipShirley | January 8, 2011 2:18 PM | Report abuse

the only words I can think of besides sadness:

Glenn Beck, Fox media hate spin, Sarah Palin, ignorant tea party revolutionary rhetoric, etc, etc.

sickening deaths..

Posted by: IndependentCO | January 8, 2011 2:18 PM | Report abuse

The shooter was a kid of less than twenty, according to early reports. Motive still unknown, etc.

He may have been a right-wing whacko who thought she was too liberal, he may have been a left-wing wacko who thought she wasn't liberal enough.

He could even be a 'banger trying to prove himself and just noticed the crowd out looking for a target or it could have been a robbery gone bad.

But then, in partisan minds no facts available is an excellent reason to invent them.

You guys are so cute... ;-)

Posted by: deadmanwalking | January 8, 2011 2:18 PM | Report abuse

What a horrible story. My thoughts are with the victims and their families.

And to all the right wing loonies who post here - just shut up. Your HERO Sarah Palin DID put a bullseye target on Congresswoman Gifford's district just a few months ago. That is a fact. F-A-C-T. Do some research and you'll find that piece of info. Stop pretending like the rhetoric of the crazy people in the Republican party isn't violent and dangerous. You people make me so scared for this country. I thank god everyday that I don't live in one of your "red" states.I don't care who this shooter was or what his motivations were - Palin's imagery was offensive and dangerous. I said that then and I will repeat it now. Words matter.

How much do you want to bet that this crazy gunman had passed a background check from the NRA?

Posted by: CTgirl3 | January 8, 2011 2:17 PM | Report abuse

This isn't "one sick individual". It's a society that allows media frenzy (on both sides) to put violent ideas out there and simultaneously allows guns into the hands of people listening to the hype.

That said, it's not "left wing bleeding hearts" out there talking about "exercising our Second Amendment rights, is it?"

And it wasn't left wingers showing up at Tea Party conventions or campaign rallies with their rifles in hand.

Posted by: concepcion611 | January 8, 2011 2:17 PM | Report abuse

Very sad. A liberal fanatic shooting and killing an elected conservative.

Posted by: willtill | January 8, 2011 2:17 PM | Report abuse

The was a government assassination operation.

Posted by: grunk | January 8, 2011 2:17 PM | Report abuse

My God! What is this world coming to? Both the victims and everyone who witnessed this horrific event are going to be traumatized for life. I hope and pray that ALL of the victims have a complete and speedy recovery and that both they and the witnesses can somehow find the strength to somehow get on with the rest of their lives.

Thank God that Arizona has the death penalty and isn't afraid to use it. Hopefully, this isn't some rightwinger who will soon become a martyr to the tea party movement.

Posted by: Justice1999 | January 8, 2011 2:17 PM | Report abuse

The teahadists are taking back their country! Sista Sarah, go get 'em! Second Amendment remedy!

Posted by: Garak | January 8, 2011 2:16 PM | Report abuse

Shocking, but sadly, not surprising. The only thing that surprises me is that it took this long to happen. The hate-filled rhetoric led by head cheerleader Palin eventually had to come to this.

And don't be misled by the shooter's apparent youth. The most rabid, conspiracy-theory-spouting Tea Partier I know is one of my 17-year-old students. I just took him to task yesterday when he started rambling about how 9/11 was an inside job.

I would say, "God help us," but I don't think that even He can.

Posted by: rebwt | January 8, 2011 2:16 PM | Report abuse

What a horrible story. My thoughts are with the victims and their families.

And to all the right wing loonies who post here - just shut up. Your HERO Sarah Palin DID put a bullseye target on Congresswoman Gifford's district just a few months ago. That is a fact. F-A-C-T. Do some research and you'll find that piece of info. Stop pretending like the rhetoric of the crazy people in the Republican party isn't violent and dangerous. You people make me so scared for this country. I thank god everyday that I don't live in one of your "red" states.I don't care who this shooter was or what his motivations were - Palin's imagery was offensive and dangerous. I said that then and I will repeat it now. Words matter.

How much do you want to bet that this crazy gunman had passed a background check from the NRA?

Posted by: CTgirl3 | January 8, 2011 2:15 PM | Report abuse

Can we blame Fox News for stirring up all the hatred?

Posted by: John991 | January 8, 2011 2:15 PM | Report abuse


Dims just lost 63 seats in the House with ballots, not bullets. Hmm?

Posted by: screwjob23 | January 8, 2011 2:15 PM | Report abuse

Very sad. A liberal fanatic shooting and killing an elected conservative.

Posted by: willtill | January 8, 2011 2:15 PM | Report abuse

We all know this guy is going to turn out to be a tea party supporter. The right has been responsible for several violent attacks in the past two years. This is but a partial list: The guy who flew his plane into the fed building in TX, the guy who shot the guard in DC, the guy who ran amok on the freeway and shot it out with the highway patrol in northern CA, the guy in TX who drove a explosives laden trailer to a police station no less and shot it out. The right wing, tea party in particular, appears to be supported largely by thugs and the criminally insane with no regards or respect for the rights of those who dare to disagree with them. They claim to support the US Constitution but their Gestapo type tactics reveal otherwise. They are nothing more than bullies who stoop to violence at the slightest 'provocation'. My prayers are with this brave woman.

Posted by: stoneicon | January 8, 2011 2:15 PM | Report abuse

First of all, I extend my thoughts and prayers to all the people involved in this shooting, and their friends and family members. I can only begin to imagine the horror and sadness those people are going through right now.

Secondly, let's not jump to misguided conclusions. This monster has shot 12 people. Most mass shooters are absolute nut cases, and rarely have clear political objectives of any kind. Nor do I care about the thoughts and beliefs of such an animal.

Posted by: liberalsareblind | January 8, 2011 2:15 PM | Report abuse

"Giffords was literally targeted by Sarah Palin.
Just another "Second Amendment Solution," as advocated by the Republican's Susan Angle.
When are the responsible members of the GOP going to call a halt to this dangerous rhetoric?"

Of course liberals are rushing to stand on this woman's corpse to make your disgusting political points. What scum.

Posted by: bobmoses | January 8, 2011 2:14 PM | Report abuse

What a horrible story. My thoughts are with the victims and their families.

And to all the right wing loonies who post here - just shut up. Your HERO Sarah Palin DID put a bullseye target on Congresswoman Gifford's district just a few months ago. That is a fact. F-A-C-T. Do some research and you'll find that piece of info. Stop pretending like the rhetoric of the crazy people in the Republican party isn't violent and dangerous. You people make me so scared for this country. I thank god everyday that I don't live in one of your "red" states.I don't care who this shooter was or what his motivations were - Palin's imagery was offensive and dangerous. I said that then and I will repeat it now. Words matter.

How much do you want to bet that this crazy gunman had passed a background check from the NRA?

Posted by: CTgirl3 | January 8, 2011 2:14 PM | Report abuse

Fox News is back peddling so fast right now it's making my head spin - "don't know motive of the shooter" and "our prayers go out . . ." is being constantly uttered by these ##$$%. Makes me sick, I can't watch them any more.

Posted by: odonnell521 | January 8, 2011 2:14 PM | Report abuse

gobnait06, you seriously want to get into an argument about hate and hypocrisy? Take a look in the mirror.

Posted by: taonima2000 | January 8, 2011 2:14 PM | Report abuse

quick update. Rep Giffortds has died.

Posted by: alex35332 | January 8, 2011 2:13 PM | Report abuse

Calm down everyone, this is just them thar teabaggers using their god given second amendment rights to get what they want.

Posted by: mojo975 | January 8, 2011 2:13 PM | Report abuse

Giffords was literally targeted by Sarah Palin.
Just another "Second Amendment Solution," as advocated by the Republican's Susan Angle.
When are the responsible members of the GOP going to call a halt to this dangerous rhetoric?

Posted by: Butteoid | January 8, 2011 2:13 PM | Report abuse


La Raza is recruiting heavily in Arizona.

Posted by: screwjob23 | January 8, 2011 2:13 PM | Report abuse

Left wingers across the country ready to blame all conservatives for crazy actions of one sick individual.

Posted by: guest1 | January 8, 2011 2:01 PM | Report abuse

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Well. Why not? Republicans have been blaming the entire Islamic world for the actions of 19 hijackers for the last decade.

Posted by: trambusto | January 8, 2011 2:12 PM | Report abuse

screwjob23 wrote: A young, drug-addled leftist, no doubt.
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Care to explain why a "leftist" would shoot a Democrat?

More likely a young, drug-addled right-winger with a head full of Limbaugh/Beck hatred.

Posted by: jules3621 | January 8, 2011 2:12 PM | Report abuse

NPR reporting she is dead. RIP.

Posted by: guest1 | January 8, 2011 2:12 PM | Report abuse

Right-wingers across the country praying he’s not one of them.

Posted by: hallj1 | January 8, 2011 1:56 PM | Report abuse

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Really you A-hole? You politicize this tragedy?

This is why America has rejected the left

Posted by: Straightline | January 8, 2011 2:12 PM | Report abuse

Here is just a sampling of the hate-filled, knee-jerk reaction from the left. The hypocrisy of the shrill, petty liberals like capone1 is laughable. The hate is all yours-ask the likes of your heroes like Francis Piven who just this week called for violence in the streets to advance your agenda. You people are scary.

Posted by: gobnait06 | January 8, 2011 2:11 PM | Report abuse

Republican rhetoric is often extreme.

Posted by: jsands2 | January 8, 2011 2:10 PM | Report abuse

The fascist rightwingers are a threat to the USA. It is time to ban the Republican Party!

Posted by: hansenthered | January 8, 2011 2:09 PM | Report abuse

Given the increase in violent rhetoric not so subtly slipped in by the Fox News crowd I am not surprised that a Democrat politician was assassinated, and as a long time Arizona resident I am even less surprised that it was here.

God save this country before it is too late.

Posted by: Lemore | January 8, 2011 2:09 PM | Report abuse

Whole lot of people on this board want to see the shooter as a member of the Tea Party. Which doesn't say a whole lot about them.

Posted by: scourgeofsf | January 8, 2011 2:09 PM | Report abuse

The fascist rightwingers are a threat to the USA. It is time to ban the Republican Party!

Posted by: hansenthered | January 8, 2011 2:09 PM | Report abuse

This is how some of our citizens believe in taking back America, are you wing nuts happy now ??

Posted by: shipfreakbo214 | January 8, 2011 2:09 PM | Report abuse

I'm eager to hear more details. I hope everyone recovers and we learn the true motives of this shooter

Posted by: kcflood87 | January 8, 2011 2:08 PM | Report abuse

Left wingers across the country ready to blame all conservatives for crazy actions of one sick individual.

Posted by: guest1

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Correction: Two sick individuals

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Byron_Williams_%28shooter%29

Posted by: mojo975 | January 8, 2011 2:08 PM | Report abuse

Prayers for Gabrielle Giffords and her family.

Posted by: monk4hall | January 8, 2011 2:08 PM | Report abuse


Or an Amigo.

Posted by: screwjob23 | January 8, 2011 2:07 PM | Report abuse

Absolutely tragic, I fear the worst that Rep. Giffords has been killed. Apparently they have the suspect. What will it take before people tone down the rhetoric?

And kudos to NPR, who broke the story. I guess taxpayer is getting their moneys worth, since the commercial networks, including Fox, have been scooped. I wonder if it's because she's a Democrat?

Posted by: dpc2003 | January 8, 2011 2:07 PM | Report abuse

So funny to hear right wingers complaining about lefties blaming them anytime there's a gun crime or that it might be teabaggers...Right wingers blame blacks, Hispanics, Muslims and gays for everything and now they're getting a taste of their own medicine! I'd like to see one of the Bible thumpers remember their Old Testament (Book of Exodus) that calls for death for anyone who works on the Sabbath...oh, the hypocrisy of it all!

Posted by: orpheus2004 | January 8, 2011 2:07 PM | Report abuse

The liberals and Democrats are commenting on Huffington Post.....

"This is somehow incited by Sarah Palin or the Tea Party or conservati­ve talk radio."

"This is an attack on life. There is no respect for life on the right."

"There are some loose cannons on the right who need to do extreme soul searching."

"This is Arizona, where poor people who need transplant­s are sentenced to death."

"Does not surprise me after so many Tea Party candidates made reference to and innuendo about using those "2nd Amendment Rights" to take back their country."

Posted by: Nobama__in___2012 | January 8, 2011 2:06 PM | Report abuse

MEDIA, STOP GIVING ANY CREDENCE TO THE IDIOTIC TEABAGGERS OUT THERE. YOU ARE ONLY GIVING THEM CREDIBILITY. LAW ENFORCEMENT, START ARRESTING THOSE WHO ADVOCATE VIOLENCE.

Posted by: fishman2 | January 8, 2011 2:06 PM | Report abuse

This is a terrible tragedy on so many levels. May God bless the Congresswoman and her fellow victims and save their precious lives. God forbid that Jan Brewer gets to appoint another right wing bigot to Congress

Posted by: ptrppr100 | January 8, 2011 2:06 PM | Report abuse

left wing, right wing. It's all the same. You all understand what extremism is right?

Posted by: mf2007 | January 8, 2011 2:06 PM | Report abuse

The shooter is another Tea Party lunatic. Hope they and the GOP are happy as they turn the US into a banana republic.

Posted by: AugustWest1 | January 8, 2011 2:06 PM | Report abuse

MEDIA, STOP GIVING ANY CREDENCE TO THE IDIOTIC TEABAGGERS OUT THERE. YOU ARE ONLY GIVING THEM CREDIBILITY. LAW ENFORCEMENT, START ARRESTING THOSE WHO ADVOCATE VIOLENCE.

Posted by: fishman2 | January 8, 2011 2:05 PM | Report abuse

Civil War time Arizona right wingers. John Brown style justice is coming. Avenge Gabby!

Posted by: anarcho-liberal-tarian | January 8, 2011 2:05 PM | Report abuse

Giffords was one of the "targets" on Sarah Palin's campaign map. When is someone going to call her out for her reckless behavior?

Posted by: bellsauf | January 8, 2011 2:04 PM | Report abuse

Proof that Fox News creates lunatics.

Posted by: trambusto | January 8, 2011 2:03 PM | Report abuse

Giffords was one of the "targets" on Sarah Palin's campaign map. When is someone going to call her out for her reckless behavior?

Posted by: bellsauf | January 8, 2011 2:03 PM | Report abuse

They have said for 3 years now that domestic terrorism is the greater threat.

Posted by: alex35332 | January 8, 2011 2:03 PM | Report abuse

clearly a Second Amendment remedy. What else?

Posted by: francesco1099 | January 8, 2011 2:03 PM | Report abuse

Fox News/Tea Party crowd gets to claim its first body.

Posted by: clear_eyed_man | January 8, 2011 2:02 PM | Report abuse

I'm saddened by this news - and horrified.

Who among us didn't know, or at least suspect, that this day was coming?

Really, that this is even possible in this great nation is humiliating.

We should hang our heads in shame for allowing - and in many cases encouraging - the toxic climate that in all probability is at the root of this tragic event.

I'd like to think we might learn from this, but when has America ever genuinely learned from its mistakes?

I await the reprimands from those who will read between the lines of what I've written here and find a reason to attack my words.

Perhaps this is because they recognize their own reflections staring back at them from between those same lines.

Sad, sad, sad.

Posted by: joeyangel1 | January 8, 2011 2:02 PM | Report abuse

Giffords was one of the "targets" on Sarah Palin's campaign map. When is someone going to call her out for her reckless behavior?

Posted by: bellsauf | January 8, 2011 2:02 PM | Report abuse

A "re-loaded" Teahadist no doubt....

Posted by: WmLaney | January 8, 2011 2:02 PM | Report abuse

IT'S TIME THE MEDIA STOP GIVING AIRTIME TO NUTJOBS LIKE SARAH PALIN AND FOR LAW ENFORCEMENT TO START CRACKING DOWN ON RIGHT WING NUTJOBS IN THE MEDIA WHEN THEY START ADVOCATING VIOLENCE!
It was only a matter of time before a TEABAGGER killed a Democrat.

Posted by: fishman2 | January 8, 2011 2:01 PM | Report abuse

Left wingers across the country ready to blame all conservatives for crazy actions of one sick individual.

Posted by: guest1 | January 8, 2011 2:01 PM | Report abuse

IT'S TIME THE MEDIA STOP GIVING AIRTIME TO NUTJOBS LIKE SARAH PALIN AND FOR LAW ENFORCEMENT TO START CRACKING DOWN ON RIGHT WING NUTJOBS IN THE MEDIA WHEN THEY START ADVOCATING VIOLENCE!
It was only a matter of time before a TEABAGGER killed a Democrat.

Posted by: fishman2 | January 8, 2011 2:01 PM | Report abuse

Can we now drop the "Locking, Loading & Reloading" rhetoric? Didn't we know it was just a mater of time before it lead to this?

Posted by: ScoutieDog | January 8, 2011 2:01 PM | Report abuse

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I assume the shooter is going to blame Glen Beck, Rush Limpbaugh or Keith Olderman.

Now my Congressman, who refuses to permit the riffraff to see him or speak to him, will be even more isolated.
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Posted by: BrianX9 | January 8, 2011 2:00 PM | Report abuse

Apparently, bystanders chased and tackled the shooter, who is reported to be in his late teens or early 20s.

Posted by: oxhead1 | January 8, 2011 2:00 PM | Report abuse


A young, drug-addled leftist, no doubt.

"The suspect ran off and was tackled by a bystander. He was taken into custody. Witnesses described him as in his late teens or early 20s."

Posted by: screwjob23 | January 8, 2011 1:59 PM | Report abuse

And the shooter got away? What happened?

Posted by: glacy3 | January 8, 2011 1:58 PM | Report abuse

My prayers are with her and anyone else injured and their families. This is nuts. The hate must stop. Why can't we disagree and work for change when we feel it's needed? The hate coming from the right wing radio hosts should be stopped immediately. She is one of the one's that idiot Palin targeted on a website on 9/24/10 with the headline: Palin targets health care law supporters on site". Hope she's happy one of them got hurt or, God forbid, killed. STOP THE HATE NOW. Refuse to watch or listen to the nuts that can't seem to be reasonable on so many subjects.

Posted by: capone1 | January 8, 2011 1:57 PM | Report abuse

OMG!

Posted by: veritasinmedium | January 8, 2011 1:57 PM | Report abuse

Right-wingers across the country praying he’s not one of them.

Posted by: hallj1 | January 8, 2011 1:56 PM | Report abuse

Here comes Arizonistan.

Posted by: jimk8mr | January 8, 2011 1:56 PM | Report abuse

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