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Posted at 2:40 PM ET, 02/ 1/2011

Senate Republicans plan to force vote this week on health-care repeal

By Felicia Sonmez

Updated: 3:30 p.m.

Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) on Tuesday introduced a measure aimed at repealing the national health-care overhaul as an amendment to the first Senate bill of the new Congress.

McConnell proposed the repeal measure as an amendment to a Federal Aviation Administration funding bill. The move came one day after a federal judge in Florida ruled that Congress had overstepped its authority by mandating insurance for nearly all Americans. A vote could come as early as Wednesday, according to a Senate Democratic leadership aide.

The push for a vote on repealing the health-care law has picked up broad support among Senate Republicans, although it's unlikely that full repeal would garner the number of votes necessary to pass the Senate. South Carolina Republican Sen. Jim DeMint announced on Monday afternoon that his bill calling for the full repeal of the health-care overhaul had won the support of all 47 Senate Republicans; earlier Monday, some GOP senators had yet to sign onto the bill.

Senate Democratic leaders promised on Tuesday that any Republican-led repeal effort would be defeated, potentially by Democrats raising a point of order against the measure.

"The Republicans obviously want to do something on health care, and so we want to get this out of their system very quickly," Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) told reporters Tuesday afternoon.

In addition to the full repeal amendment, a separate amendment sponsored by Sen. Debbie Stabenow (D-Mich.) that would repeal the unpopular 1099 provision of the health-care law is also on the table this week. Reid said that the Senate would likely move to that measure "very quickly."

As of late last week, a similar measure sponsored by Sen. Mike Johanns (R-Neb.) and Joe Manchin (D-W.Va.) had garnered the support of more than 60 senators, including 45 Republicans and 15 Democrats.

Other Republicans in Congress are moving ahead aggressively with their effort to overturn the health-care overhaul. Earlier Tuesday, Republican Senators Lindsey Graham (S.C.) and John Barrasso (Wyo.) introduced legislation that would allow states to opt out of provisions of the national health care law including the employer mandate, individual insurance benefit mandates and Medicaid expansion.

Graham said that while the full repeal of the health-care law remains Senate Republicans' "number-one goal," the State Health Care Choice Act that he and Barrasso are proposing "takes the battle out of Washington to the states" and that if enough states ultimately opt out, it could be enough to render the national health-care law ineffective.

"Instead of requiring states to follow Obamacare's one-size-fits-all approach to health-care policy, our bill allows states to decide what works best for their citizens," Graham said at a Capitol news conference.

Barrasso hailed Monday's ruling by a Florida judge striking down the entire overhaul as "the second dagger into the heart of Obamacare" and said that his legislation "gives states the sovereignty" to pursue their own solutions.

The two planned to send out a "Dear Colleague" letter to other lawmakers, but neither senator gave a timeline on when the legislation might be expected to reach the Senate floor.

In a floor speech Tuesday, Reid defended the health-care law, arguing that it "is already saving lives and saving money" and that even more will be saved once more of the law's provisions come into effect.

"Lawsuits and lawmakers' efforts to repeal this bill are nothing more than an attempt to raise taxes on small businesses, add a trillion dollars to the deficit, force seniors to pay more for their prescriptions, and let insurance companies once again stand in the way of a child and the medical care he or she needs," Reid said. "Health reform is complex, but this debate is a simple one: We put patients in control of their health care. Repeal would put insurance companies back in charge. We can't afford it -- not with our wallets, and certainly not with our lives."

McConnell took to the floor earlier Tuesday to renew his call for a vote on full repeal and noting that Republicans are united in their opposition to the health care overhaul.

"The importance of a repeal vote becomes more evident every day," McConnell said. "Americans view it as an important decision point -- a marker that shows we're serious about a return to limited government. On that point, it should be clear where Republicans stand. Every one of us voted against the bill. Every one of us voted for repeal after that. And this week, every Republican reaffirmed his or her commitment to doing it again."

Senate Majority Whip Dick Durbin (D-Ill.) will chair a hearing on the constitutionality of the national health-care law on Wednesday morning, two days after the Florida ruling.

The hearing, which will take place before the full Senate Judiciary Committee, will be the first-ever to examine the constitutionality of the health care law. Democrats have called Oregon Attorney General John Kroger and former solicitors general Walter Dellinger and Charles Fried to testify; Republicans have invited Georgetown University law professor Randy Barnett and attorney Michael Carvin.

By Felicia Sonmez  | February 1, 2011; 2:40 PM ET
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john1263, I don't believe there has been a net game of 2 million jobs created during the Obama dictator years, but even if there was, thats nothing compared to the jobs lost since his take over. after all, how many jobs are lost when unemployment goes from 7 1/2% - 10 1/2% in less than 2 years. I believe it was proved that the actual number of unemployed was closer to 15% when you figure the number of people who stopped recieving unemployment and stopped looking for work because it wasn't out there

Posted by: ndr15950 | February 3, 2011 7:42 PM | Report abuse

Ok the Senate Repubs wanted a vote and they got it...the Repubs LOST..51-47

In addition four different federal judges have ruled on the Healthcare law..(2) Demos said it was Constitutional (2) Repubs said it was un Constitutional..non of the 4 decisions agree with one another..so it is headed to the Supreme Court where the "final" decision will be made.

In the meantime, perhaps Congress can get some work done and all those highly paid Congressmen, who have their hopes and dreams on becoming President can actually show up for work and focus on getting some work done for the country and worry about their political dreams on their own time and not the tax payers.

After all they get the best health insurance available and only have to pay 28% of the cost...none of them turn it down.

In fact one newly elected Repub was very upset when he learned that his health care coverage did not start the day after the election, but he had to wait till he was sworn in January and actually working for the government.

Posted by: meyer390 | February 3, 2011 11:47 AM | Report abuse

Ok the Senate Repubs wanted a vote and they got it...the Repubs LOST..51-47

In addition four different federal judges have ruled on the Healthcare law..(2) Demos said it was Constitutional (2) Repubs said it was un Constitutional..non of the 4 decisions agree with one another..so it is headed to the Supreme Court where the "final" decision will be made.

In the meantime, perhaps Congress can get some work done and all those highly paid Congressmen, who have their hopes and dreams on becoming President can actually show up for work and focus on getting some work done for the country and worry about their political dreams on their own time and not the tax payers.

After all they get the best health insurance available and only have to pay 28% of the cost...none of them turn it down.

In fact one newly elected Repub was very upset when he learned that his health care coverage did not start the day after the election, but he had to wait till he was sworn in January and actually working for the government.

Posted by: meyer390 | February 3, 2011 10:15 AM | Report abuse

Send back all latinos to South America to help fight against corrupt politians. Countries are rich, but politian clans are cleaning the treasure and stealing the money. All Latinos, do not abandon your home countries and your relatives to poverty. You are just profiting from US healthcare system without paying. You are double selfish. Come back and help your countries.

Posted by: kaestnerlotar | February 2, 2011 8:47 PM | Report abuse

A total joke! Media recognize what you are doing to the general public with you mis-information. After its reported so often and from so many different outlets it becomes plausable in the minds of many people. Even worse, it become plausable in the hearts of those people who didn't vote for Obama and never would in a million years again because of something the media is willing to go around the world to avoid talking about...racism! These are the same folks in the same states that carried their hate filled signs, insighted their viral language, carried their guns to rallies.... The media gave these folks voice and now can't back off for fear of being recoginized for what they have done. "Oh, what a tangled web we weave when we first practice to deceive." Media, this is your web, do you have any conscious or creditability - or are the better terms: virtues, honesty, integrity left to fix this monster you've created or are you willing to stick your heads in the sand?

Posted by: mcgeenate | February 2, 2011 3:52 PM | Report abuse

It is such a shame that we the American people must deal with the Republicans who lack compassion and INTEGRITY. They know that our healthcare reform bill does NOT need to be repealled, the polls show the Republicans these facts. Since the Republicans are showing their hate for our president they could careless about helping middle class families that are NOW feeling the benefits in our healthcare reform. Not one of the liars (Republicans) are willing to fore go their federally funded healthcare but they will take yours away. I have called (202-2256205) Speaker Boehner and respectfully asked that he NOT repeal our healthcare reform. Please email and/or call BOehner before he takes us backwards. Their (Republicans) main goal is to NOT see any "victories" going toward our African American president, no matter how it hurts middle class and low income families. Republicans do NOT even have a "REPLACEMENT" for the repeal. SO this proves they could careless they want to get on the insurance companies side for their big dollar donations. Well too many of us did NOT vote in November and now Boehner, McConnell and et al (Repbulicans) start every conversation with THE AMERICAN PEOPLE HAVE SPOKE in NOvember. No, not enough people showned up and now all of us have to suffer at the hands of Republicans who DO NOT CARE about the average American. They only care about their rich companies and friends. The Republicans can be stopped by emails and phone calls letting them know they will NOT be re-elected because they do NOT understand they are in congress to SERVE THE PEOPLE, not their chosen ones.

Posted by: netstoy | February 2, 2011 3:35 PM | Report abuse

Obamacare, Obama's great "accomplishemnt", pride and joy is fast going down the tubes it seems. However, he will fight it tooth and nail althoug by now the American people know that this is just a government power grab, which will do nothing to enhance healthcare. Most Americans will fare much worse, with rationing, long lines, forced compliance or else, inferior care, etc. What have we done to deserve this and Obama?

Posted by: Tommypie | February 2, 2011 2:30 PM | Report abuse

JohninConnecticut

So you read the 2000+ pages and understand it? From what I have read those that voted on it and passed it didn't even do know what they voted on, and only now they are looking at the constitutionality of it. Your view is different then the 26 state attorney generals which is understandable, because your not the one that will have to pay billions in new state mandates. In the end it will only matte what SOTUS thinks.

Posted by: tateofpa | February 2, 2011 11:27 AM | Report abuse

The Mitch and Lindsay show had over 20 months to offer any amendments. And, they didn't. The amendment he's allegedly proposing will be ruled out of order because it isn't germane to the bill he's trying to attach it to.

Having taught the course on Constitution for many years, I'll quite safely state that the law is constitutional under both the Commerce clause and the 16th Amendment which will allow the Conress to address any required purchase as a tax.

That's why the judge from hanging chad territory didn't enjoin the government from enforcing it. He had no basis for doing that because he knows his ruling is merely political and not legal.

He needs to be removed fromthe bench for abuse of his defined powers.

Posted by: JohninConnecticut | February 2, 2011 11:01 AM | Report abuse

Mikel7: I'm all for it.
I think anyone who has not purchased medical insurance, or cannot pay for medical services, OR has not applied for assistance BEFORE getting sick or injured, ought to receive ONLY that care they can pay for out of pocket.

There are charities and government services out there that can help the needy; but those who shirk their responsibilities need to live (or die) with the consequences of their decisions.

Posted by: ScottinVA | February 2, 2011 10:36 AM | Report abuse

One other question. Why didn't they do their job in the senate and the house last year when they were passing this HC bill, on the constitutionality of this bill. It used to be SOP for a bill to be written, then reviewed by the each chambers committee to review and see if it met constitution muster. Then it would be tweak then voted on.

Posted by: tateofpa | February 2, 2011 10:15 AM | Report abuse

My question is what is Reed afraid of, by having a vote on this. Would it not be quicker and easier if he would just put the houses bill up and let it stand by itself? The dems still have the majority in the senate right? Stop playing games bring it to the floor of the senate, debate it and then vote on it. I know it not the way they been doing business for the last 2 yrs., but lets start doing the people business in the light of day.

Posted by: tateofpa | February 2, 2011 10:06 AM | Report abuse

Sorry for the repeats. Seems the system doesn't register comments quickly.

Posted by: mikel7 | February 2, 2011 9:54 AM | Report abuse

Want to repeal the health care law? Okay, but first I want the repubs to offer this as a bill: only those whohave health insurance or can show that they are capable of paying for medical costs can be treated by doctors and hospitals. Right now, those paying for their own edical coverage are also paying for free healthcare for those who don't. Why should our premiums keep going up to pay for those who milk the system? Repubs always talking about personal responsibilty, so why are they against a law that makes people be responsible for their buying own health coverage? Put your money where your mouth is, mcconnell. Demand no more free health care for people with no insurance. Bring our costs down by not subsidizing socialistic health care now!

Posted by: mikel7 | February 2, 2011 9:43 AM | Report abuse

Want to repeal the health care law? Okay, but first I want the repubs to offer this as a bill: only those whohave health insurance or can show that they are capable of paying for medical costs can be treated by doctors and hospitals. Right now, those paying for their own edical coverage are also paying for free healthcare for those who don't. Why should our premiums keep going up to pay for those who milk the system? Repubs always talking about personal responsibilty, so why are they against a law that makes people be responsible for their buying own health coverage? Put your money where your mouth is, mcconnell. Demand no more free health care for people with no insurance. Bring our costs down by not subsidizing socialistic health care now!

Posted by: mikel7 | February 2, 2011 9:42 AM | Report abuse

Thanks to the republicans, those who don't have healthcare, will still get it only you and I will pay for it. The republicans have proved what true socialists they really are.


Posted by: blarsen1 | February 2, 2011 9:42 AM | Report abuse

Want to repeal the health care law? Okay, but first I want the repubs to offer this as a bill: only those whohave health insurance or can show that they are capable of paying for medical costs can be treated by doctors and hospitals. Right now, those paying for their own edical coverage are also paying for free healthcare for those who don't. Why should our premiums keep going up to pay for those who milk the system? Repubs always talking about personal responsibilty, so why are they against a law that makes people be responsible for their buying own health coverage? Put your money where your mouth is, mcconnell. Demand no more free health care for people with no insurance. Bring our costs down by not subsidizing socialistic health care now!

Posted by: mikel7 | February 2, 2011 9:42 AM | Report abuse

Want to repeal the health care law? Okay, but first I want the repubs to offer this as a bill: only those whohave health insurance or can show that they are capable of paying for medical costs can be treated by doctors and hospitals. Right now, those paying for their own edical coverage are also paying for free healthcar efor those who don't. Why should our premiums keep going up to pay for those who milk the system? Repubs always talking about personal responsibilty, so why are they against a law that makes people be responsible for their buying own health coverage? Put your money where your mouth is, mcconnell. Demand no more free health care for people with no insurance. Bring our costs down by not subsidizing socialistic health care now!

Posted by: mikel7 | February 2, 2011 9:41 AM | Report abuse

Want to repeal the health care law? Okay, but first I want the repubs to offer this as a bill: only those whohave health insurance or can show that they are capable of paying for medical costs can be treated by doctors and hospitals. Right now, those paying for their own edical coverage are also paying for free healthcar efor those who don't. Why should our premiums keep going up to pay for those who milk the system? Repubs always talking about personal responsibilty, so why are they against a law that makes people be responsible for their buying own health coverage? Put your money where your mouth is, mcconnell. Demand no more free health care for people with no insurance. Bring our costs down by not subsidizing socialistic health care now!

Posted by: mikel7 | February 2, 2011 9:40 AM | Report abuse

Why don't republicans say what they REALLY mean. This is the number one priority for our financiers, our backers. We are the Republican Party, a wholly owned subsidiary of anyone corporation who will give us cash. There is no great groundswell in this country for repeal except the teabaggers -- most of which have coverage under a government run program - Medicare. In fact most people WANT to see it kept and improved. A fact lost on republicans because they're not interested in actually making the lives of Americans better. They are more interested in seeing that their masters' bidding is done. No focus on jobs. Just focus on non issues. Even if by some miracle this waste of Senate time were to pass, it would be swiftly vetoed. And Republican governors can go judge shopping -- Vinson being a glaring example -- for tea party Federal judges, but that's doesn't make his mess of a ruling any more credible than if I'd written it in crayon.

Posted by: philly2 | February 2, 2011 9:40 AM | Report abuse

Want to repeal the health care law? Okay, but first I want the repubs to offer this as a bill: only those whohave health insurance or can show that they are capable of paying for medical costs can be treated by doctors and hospitals. Right now, those paying for their own edical coverage are also paying for free healthcar efor those who don't. Why should our premiums keep going up to pay for those who milk the system? Repubs always talking about personal responsibilty, so why are they against a law that makes people be responsible for their buying own health coverage? Put your money where your mouth is, mcconnell. Demand no more free health care for people with no insurance. Bring our costs down by not subsidizing socialistic health care now!

Posted by: mikel7 | February 2, 2011 9:40 AM | Report abuse

Want to repeal the health care law? Okay, but first I want the repubs to offer this as a bill: only those whohave health insurance or can show that they are capable of paying for medical costs can be treated by doctors and hospitals. Right now, those paying for their own edical coverage are also paying for free healthcar efor those who don't. Why should our premiums keep going up to pay for those who milk the system? Repubs always talking about personal responsibilty, so why are they against a law that makes people be responsible for their buying own health coverage? Put your money where your mouth is, mcconnell. Demand no more free health care for people with no insurance. Bring our costs down by not subsidizing socialistic health care now!

Posted by: mikel7 | February 2, 2011 9:39 AM | Report abuse

have questions I'd like answered. What exactly are the provisions of the health care and other benefits federal legislators and judges receive? How does that compare to the average health care benefits for ordinary people? And how does it compare to the health insurane and other coverage floor workers (not executives) at Wal-Mart or Costco reveive?

I think it's probably pretty easy for rich congress people with Cadillac health care to vote down reasonable health care for others.

And I do understand that if these congress people gave up their coverage tomorrow, health insurance companies would come running to provide them special coverage to buy their votes for bills like this repeal effort. Money owns the government. The middle class is dying.

Posted by: tinyjab40 | February 2, 2011 9:07 AM | Report abuse

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The health benefit plan available to Congressmen and Senators is governed under the Federal Employee Health Benefit Plan. Under the umbrella of an OPM group, all federal employees have a selection of private companies to choose health care coverage from. The employee, similar to most large corporations, pays 28% of the costs, while the employer pays 72% of the costs. The sole difference with Congressmen and Senators is that they have access to Tricare and Congressional doctor service for which they have to pay for

The insurance wouldn't have to come running--they are already servicing federal legislators.

Like in the outside world, some policies are economical, some are Cadillac, but the policies have to be paid for accordingly.

Posted by: PALADIN7E | February 2, 2011 9:26 AM | Report abuse

It really makes me sick to hear all the half wit morons talking about how republicans are a bunch of loser for wanting to repeal the health care. where is your brains? THINK!!!
It is not so much the healthcare in itself that is pissing people off, there may be some good points to it, but it is all the negative points that outways the goods points 50/1 (hypothetical)Ok your child can stay on your insurance until 26 years of age and yeah its great that a child or person with pre conditions can be covered, but come on, this could have been spelled out publicly to where people were comfortable with what was being done and then people could of had a conscious knowing of what they were getting, but the crooked, sneaky self centered, people in control @ the time, PELOSI, REID, Etc.They had to work in a dictatorship manor demanding that healthcare be rammed down our throats at all costs no matter who disagreed. Its not like being fed medicine as a child to save your life even though you don't like the taste, we're talking
about grown adults who have the right to refuse medicine if they choose.My point is it is our right to choose for ourselves and not have the gov. force feed us what they want. Thats what the tea party is about. putting the power back in the hands of the people the way it was meant to be. If anyone out there believes the government knows better how to care for you and your loved ones than you do than you are big fat liars.You know you would never let anyone tell you how to care for your loved ones but because the title democrat, or republican is behind the name doing it that makes it ok. WAKE UP PEOPLE. Ours rights are being taken away and this health care is the start. Also if you think obama is on your side or for you the people you are seriously dilusional. the reason it is being called Obamacare is because they want it to sound like Obama Cares. I think he should be called Obamdictator, that would fit more into all he wants to do for the people. WHAT THEY DON"T WANT!!!!
Do I think the republicans are any better?
No I can't say that but at least the nov election was a sign that people are taking notice and if the republicans can't do the job this time then they to will be booted out. Its time the people take back the government and the country. Think About It People. Life Liberty And The Persuit Of Happiness This is being taken away

Posted by: ndr15950 | February 2, 2011 9:25 AM | Report abuse

I have questions I'd like answered. What exactly are the provisions of the health care and other benefits federal legislators and judges receive? How does that compare to the average health care benefits for ordinary people? And how does it compare to the health insurane and other coverage floor workers (not executives) at Wal-Mart or Costco reveive?

I think it's probably pretty easy for rich congress people with Cadillac health care to vote down reasonable health care for others.

And I do understand that if these congress people gave up their coverage tomorrow, health insurance companies would come running to provide them special coverage to buy their votes for bills like this repeal effort. Money owns the government. The middle class is dying.

Posted by: tinyjab40 | February 2, 2011 9:07 AM | Report abuse

Has anyone else noticed that when the WPO writes headlines regarding Republicans they're not so positive, but when the Democrats or Obama blink ...all positive adjectives and adverbs.

Posted by: jobro2 | February 2, 2011 8:57 AM | Report abuse

Is it just me, or do the headlines in the WPO tend to be handled with a delicate, positive tone when the subject concerns an act by Obama or a Democrat(not democratic as is so often misused as well)congress rather than a Republican president and congress?

Posted by: jobro2 | February 2, 2011 8:11 AM | Report abuse

Is it just me, or do the headlines in the WPO tend to be handled with a delicate, positive tone when the subject concerns an act by Obama or a Democrat(not democratic as is so often misused as well)congress rather than a Republican president and congress?

Posted by: jobro2 | February 2, 2011 8:10 AM | Report abuse

Privatize Medicare? That's a great idea! The insurance industry considers those over 65 to be uninsurable.

I never heard him say that the insurance industry would be forbidden to ban individuals with pre-existing conditions or forbidden to instill annual or lifetime caps. If they would be permitted to continue those practices then the plan is useless.

As for corporate taxes, how about eliminating tax breaks for corporations that are outsourcing their jobs overseas. Why are we giving tax breaks to companies that are outsourcing?

The job re-training idea to bid on federal grants sounds fishy to me. I would like quite a bit more detail on that one. Why not just give more tax breaks for those that are re-training to include expanded college tuition breaks and beyond 2012? Somebody sending their child to private school should not get more tax incentive than somebody struggling to get through college. That just doesn't make sense.

Posted by: croftonpost | February 2, 2011 7:59 AM | Report abuse

Croftonpost, the GOP roadmap for job creation and health care is here: http://www.roadmap.republicans.budget.house.gov/

You're welcome.

Posted by: RazedByWolves | February 2, 2011 6:32 AM | Report abuse

When someone without healthcare gets seriously hurt or is seriously ill they go to the public funded hospitals now.

So why not allow those same folks to contribute to the overall plan, and maybe prevent a few big expensive problems before it gets too expensive for all of us?

We have debated the Affordable Healthcare Act of 2010 for two years; there were over 3600 seminars held around the country, and everyone and his dog has weighed in and the plan came to the floor for a vote. If we make adjustments they should only be to make the plan better.

Repeal of healthcare is NOT an option -- look at what the Govenor Repeal in California (of Gray Davis replaced by Arnold) did for us -- we went from 3 billion in debt to 40 billion in debt! The Office of Management and Budget says repeal is more expensive for taxpayers so its time to Shut the Repeal Train Up!

For every vote repealing healthcare we should lay a dead rat on the door of that Congressman/woman because that is all they are in this lame, sad debate -- political ratfinks.

Posted by: epmontgomery | February 2, 2011 2:51 AM | Report abuse

Precisely, using the Founders' logic and words is not "activism" but "orginalism" as in the Founders' orignial intent of the Constitution.
Here's a quote right out of the very respected, seldom over-turned, 70 year old judge's ruling:
"James Madison, the chief architect of our federalist system, once famously
observed:
'If men were angels, no government would be necessary.
If angels were to govern men, neither external nor internal
controls on government would be necessary. In framing a
government which is to be administered by men over
men, the great difficulty lies in this: you must first enable
the government to control the governed; and in the next
place oblige it to control itself.'"
ObamaCare is clearly an "over-reach" and "out of the mainstream" nasty bit of socialism. A majority of the American people know it and soon enough, the remaining Democrats in the Senate and President Obama will know it.
The longer they fight the will of "we, the people," the more foul tempered we're going to become.

Posted by: backsds | February 2, 2011 2:16 AM | Report abuse


Not having insurance would just be completely crazy. I am an accountant and in my local area Wise Health Insurance is the best health insurance finder I ever had. Yes my insurance does cover dental and eye insurance which is a big help to my life.

Posted by: craigdune | February 2, 2011 1:07 AM | Report abuse

I hope that the health care overhauling includes overhauling the health insurance business. I have BC-BS insurance and I am sent alot of advertising, ask-a-nurse, and discount information. And what in the devil is the Blue Store? I guess that didn't work, I don't hear about that anymore. I wish they would not spend the money for all that stuff and just give me a lower monthly payment and better coverage. My deductable just went up and my monthly payment went up. Why a deductable if they are expensive. BC-BS is one of the most expensive insurances but they are very automated and that seems to make the hospitals and doctors happy that they get paid faster, but it appears they may be too big and must spend alot on advertising. I think they don't need all that fluff, and better coverage and lower rates is the best advertising.

Posted by: jillsmythe | February 2, 2011 12:02 AM | Report abuse

I hope that the health care overhauling includes overhauling the health insurance business. I have BC-BS insurance and I am sent alot of advertising, ask-a-nurse, and discount information. And what in the devil is the Blue Store? I guess that didn't work, I don't hear about that anymore. I wish they would not spend the money for all that stuff and just give me a lower monthly payment and better coverage. My deductable just went up and my monthly payment went up. Why a deductable if they are expensive. BC-BS is one of the most expensive insurances but they are very automated and that seems to make the hospitals and doctors happy that they get paid faster, but it appears they may be too big and must spend alot on advertising. I think they don't need all that fluff, and better coverage and lower rates is the best advertising.

Posted by: jillsmythe | February 2, 2011 12:02 AM | Report abuse

I hope that the health care overhauling includes overhauling the health insurance business. I have BC-BS insurance and I am sent alot of advertising, ask-a-nurse, and discount information. And what in the devil is the Blue Store? I guess that didn't work, I don't hear about that anymore. I wish they would not spend the money for all that stuff and just give me a lower monthly payment and better coverage. My deductable just went up and my monthly payment went up. Why a deductable if they are expensive. BC-BS is one of the most expensive insurances but they are very automated and that seems to make the hospitals and doctors happy that they get paid faster, but it appears they may be too big and must spend alot on advertising. I think they don't need all that fluff, and better coverage and lower rates is the best advertising.

Posted by: jillsmythe | February 2, 2011 12:02 AM | Report abuse

I hope that the health care overhauling includes overhauling the health insurance business. I have BC-BS insurance and I am sent alot of advertising, ask-a-nurse, and discount information. And what in the devil is the Blue Store? I guess that didn't work, I don't hear about that anymore. I wish they would not spend the money for all that stuff and just give me a lower monthly payment and better coverage. My deductable just went up and my monthly payment went up. Why a deductable if they are expensive. BC-BS is one of the most expensive insurances but they are very automated and that seems to make the hospitals and doctors happy that they get paid faster, but it appears they may be too big and must spend alot on advertising. I think they don't need all that fluff, and better coverage and lower rates is the best advertising.

Posted by: jillsmythe | February 2, 2011 12:02 AM | Report abuse

I hope that the health care overhauling includes overhauling the health insurance business. I have BC-BS insurance and I am sent alot of advertising, ask-a-nurse, and discount information. And what in the devil is the Blue Store? I guess that didn't work, I don't hear about that anymore. I wish they would not spend the money for all that stuff and just give me a lower monthly payment and better coverage. My deductable just went up and my monthly payment went up. Why a deductable if they are expensive. BC-BS is one of the most expensive insurances but they are very automated and that seems to make the hospitals and doctors happy that they get paid faster, but it appears they may be too big and must spend alot on advertising. I think they don't need all that fluff, and better coverage and lower rates is the best advertising.

Posted by: jillsmythe | February 2, 2011 12:02 AM | Report abuse

I hope that the health care overhauling includes overhauling the health insurance business. I have BC-BS insurance and I am sent alot of advertising, ask-a-nurse, and discount information. And what in the devil is the Blue Store? I guess that didn't work, I don't hear about that anymore. I wish they would not spend the money for all that stuff and just give me a lower monthly payment and better coverage. My deductable just went up and my monthly payment went up. Why a deductable if they are expensive. BC-BS is one of the most expensive insurances but they are very automated and that seems to make the hospitals and doctors happy that they get paid faster, but it appears they may be too big and must spend alot on advertising. I think they don't need all that fluff, and better coverage and lower rates is the best advertising.

Posted by: jillsmythe | February 2, 2011 12:02 AM | Report abuse

I hope that the health care overhauling includes overhauling the health insurance business. I have BC-BS insurance and I am sent alot of advertising, ask-a-nurse, and discount information. And what in the devil is the Blue Store? I guess that didn't work, I don't hear about that anymore. I wish they would not spend the money for all that stuff and just give me a lower monthly payment and better coverage. My deductable just went up and my monthly payment went up. Why a deductable if they are expensive. BC-BS is one of the most expensive insurances but they are very automated and that seems to make the hospitals and doctors happy that they get paid faster, but it appears they may be too big and must spend alot on advertising. I think they don't need all that fluff, and better coverage and lower rates is the best advertising.

Posted by: jillsmythe | February 2, 2011 12:02 AM | Report abuse

I hope that the health care overhauling includes overhauling the health insurance business. I have BC-BS insurance and I am sent alot of advertising, ask-a-nurse, and discount information. And what in the devil is the Blue Store? I guess that didn't work, I don't hear about that anymore. I wish they would not spend the money for all that stuff and just give me a lower monthly payment and better coverage. My deductable just went up and my monthly payment went up. Why a deductable if they are expensive. BC-BS is one of the most expensive insurances but they are very automated and that seems to make the hospitals and doctors happy that they get paid faster, but it appears they may be too big and must spend alot on advertising. I think they don't need all that fluff, and better coverage and lower rates is the best advertising.

Posted by: jillsmythe | February 2, 2011 12:02 AM | Report abuse

What’s meant by a mandate is that the government is forcing people to buy health insurance.

Here’s the concern. If you haven’t made it affordable, how are you going to enforce a mandate? I mean, if a mandate was the solution, we can try that to solve homelessness by mandating everybody to buy a house. The reason they don’t buy a house is they don’t have the money.

Posted by: EowynR

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If a person is too poor to afford subsidized insurance (defined in the law as 133 percent of the poverty-line), under the law they'll be eligible for Medicaid and won't be subject to the mandate.

So if you're ABOVE 133 percent of the poverty threshold (unlikely to be homeless), you qualify for subsidized insurance.

Those under 30 can manage expenses by buying a lower-cost catastrophic plan (that provides for three primary care visits a year).

The tax penalty is around $90 in the first year and will eventually go up to about $700 a year. The IRS could try to garnish wages if a person failed to pay the penalty.

A more ideal approach from a cost and efficiency perspective would be to have Medicare for All (rather than paying an intermediary like an insurer, you just have a single payer -- the government -- who receives a dedicated revenue stream from taxation in one door, and pays out claims through the other).

You might sacrifice some quality of care in terms of some specialized illnesses, and there would probably be increased wait times for things like non-emergency surgery, but for general care and ordinary health care issues, it would be a much less expensive way of doing things. The approach is opposed by most of the big lobbies -- although some doctors favor the single-payer/Medicare approach.

Posted by: JPRS | February 1, 2011 11:08 PM | Report abuse

Just because I haven't asked lately:

GOP,

Where's the job creation plan?

Where's the health care replacement plan?

I'm waiting.............

Posted by: croftonpost | February 1, 2011 10:35 PM | Report abuse

What’s meant by a mandate is that the government is forcing people to buy health insurance.

Here’s the concern. If you haven’t made it affordable, how are you going to enforce a mandate? I mean, if a mandate was the solution, we can try that to solve homelessness by mandating everybody to buy a house. The reason they don’t buy a house is they don’t have the money.

Posted by: EowynR | February 1, 2011 10:10 PM | Report abuse

And if not for the Republican takeover, the Pelosi and Reid crew would have allowed the Bush tax cuts to expire. Thank you, Tea Party!

Posted by: EowynR | February 1, 2011 9:45 PM

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Yes, thank you Tea Party for another $800 billion in unfunded tax-cuts over the next two years!

This is especially brilliant given that the CBO -- and many economists -- have demonstrated that the high end cuts will produce almost no new net job creation.

Assuming that we aren't buried by the cost of also paying for your medical care over the next 20 years, and assuming that we're able to find ways to re-build the roads and bridges that you decide to neglect over the past several decades (even at a time when financing and labor costs were about as low as they'll ever be); yes, someday we will even be able to refund the U.S. Treasury for your debt-financed tax-cuts!

Posted by: JPRS | February 1, 2011 10:06 PM | Report abuse

"Croftonpost: Where did you get the idea that somebody going on their parents plan is being subsidized by YOU?"

Obamacare means higher taxes for everyone, and have you not heard specifically of the new tax on families with better plans?

Of course premiums have been increasing, but Obamacare will not stop rising costs.

But I don't really care. I don't plan to pay for anyone's health care through increased taxes. I'm planning on living off the dole myself. Why work? Nancy Pelosi said we could all be artists now.

Posted by: EowynR

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"Obamacare" means that taxpayers won't be spending 114 percent of Medicare costs on Medicare Advantage (e.g. an extra $200 billion or so in reduced expenses over the next decade). It means that one subset of Americans who have gold-plated health insurance plans will pay a higher rate.

It means that some people who currently don't have health insurance will need to buy it or pay a tax penalty.

Does Obamacare equal "higher taxes for everyone"? No, pretty clearly it doesn't.

Not if you're referring to the actual law.

For most people it will have almost no impact. For small businesses who currently offer insurance it means a reduction in costs. For the typical individual or families who buys insurance in the individual or small group market it equals a net savings.

For private companies that receive taxpayer revenues through Medicare Advantage, the legislation equals a loss of billions in revenue. For those with very expensive policies, they might see some extra costs. For insurance providers, they'll likely see a lower per-customer profit margin, but they'll also have a much larger customer base.

That's not to say that there aren't a bunch of other ways that we could have had better quality coverage at a lower cost. Democratic Bush Dogs and Republicans fought hard to ensure that taxpayers continue to pay top-dollar to the pharmaceutical industry for drugs purchased through Medicare Part D. They prevented the inclusion of a Public Option, which the CBO stated would produce significant taxpayer savings.

The bottom line is that we spend 18 percent of GDP on health care in the U.S. for only covering part of our population. The next highest spending country is somewhere around 12 percent of GDP for similar quality care. Far and away we have the world's most inefficient and costly health care sector. Expanded coverage does not necessarily mean "lower quality, added costs". There's a lot of waste in the sector's cost structure right now.

Posted by: JPRS | February 1, 2011 9:52 PM | Report abuse

"EowynR, Show me where your taxes have increased this year."

Obamacare is chock full of new taxes. Of course, there was such an outcry over the "tampon tax" that Democrats scrambled to limit the tax to Class II medical devices.

So if a person buys anything like powered breast pumps, pacemakers, ventilators, X-ray machines, powered wheelchairs, surgical needles, etc. and so forth, there are new taxes!

And if not for the Republican takeover, the Pelosi and Reid crew would have allowed the Bush tax cuts to expire. Thank you, Tea Party!

Posted by: EowynR | February 1, 2011 9:45 PM | Report abuse

One of our two major political parties now has as its # 1 goal -- not fixing our economy, not keeping our country secure, but getting President Obama out of office. That's an accurate paraphrase from Senator McConnell, Senate Minority Leader. I interpret his words as a 'dogwhistle' calling for Republicans to covertly sabotage our economy and then blame the 'double dip' on Obama. Of course, the Republicans don't control the Senate, so they have to try meat-ax government cost reductions and hope that those fly in the Senate with a few Democrat votes and that Obama won't veto them. The House majority Republicans can be counted on to all robotically vote the way that their glorious leader tells them to.

Posted by: chuck8 | February 1, 2011 9:44 PM | Report abuse

EowynR,

Show me where your taxes have increased this year.................CRICKETS....................CRICKETS..........CRICKETS............They have not!

Posted by: croftonpost | February 1, 2011 9:35 PM | Report abuse

EowynR,

Yes, yes, yes. Top income earners pay a larger share of a tax revenue pool that is substantially smaller as a percentage of GDP than it was 30 years ago (e.g. about 20 percent of GDP in 1980, about 15 percent in 2010).

Their wages continue to go up while the majority see stagnation or an actual reduction in their wages. So that's kind of what a person would expect to see.

Would you rather earn $1 million and pay $500K in taxes (federal, state, local), or would you rather pay no tax and attempt to survive on a $5K a year wage?

Me personally, I'd opt for the higher wage even if I'm giving $500K back to the tax-man.

In terms of the total effective tax rate, upper income earners have seen a huge reduction in their tax burden as a part of total income since the 1950s (e.g. lower rates on capital gains, lower rates on federal income). Everyone else has seen their rates effectively remain pretty flat. Unfortunately, their incomes have also remained pretty flat.

Every single one of the big tax cuts since 1981 has also been financed on the basis of debt spending; there was no off-set in the federal budget to account for the revenue lost by the tax cut. The majority of the benefit on a per person basis went to a handful of tax payers.

e.g. the only GOP president to actually balance a budget in the past 70 years was Eisenhower. He not only raised taxes, he substantially increased federal spending and investments in things like the interstate highway system and even in the social safety net. Republicans of the current generation want their tax cuts and their wars paid for by someone else. They place a higher priority on cutting taxes for the rich than public investments.

This wasn't always the case.

Posted by: JPRS | February 1, 2011 9:31 PM | Report abuse

"Croftonpost: Where did you get the idea that somebody going on their parents plan is being subsidized by YOU?"

Obamacare means higher taxes for everyone, and have you not heard specifically of the new tax on families with better plans?

Of course premiums have been increasing, but Obamacare will not stop rising costs.

But I don't really care. I don't plan to pay for anyone's health care through increased taxes. I'm planning on living off the dole myself. Why work? Nancy Pelosi said we could all be artists now.

Posted by: EowynR | February 1, 2011 9:30 PM | Report abuse

I have no problem allowing people to opt out of healthcare coverage. As long as taxpayers can opt out of paying for their care when they get sick and can't afford to pay. That means, if you get ill and call 911 and don't have cash in hand, no ambulance will come, there will be no emergency room care, and you will die. As long as you are okay with this, I am okay with your rugged individualism. I hope you are filthy, stinking rich, though -- or don't ever get sick.

Posted by: CAC2 | February 1, 2011 9:25 PM | Report abuse

Silly Teabaggers claim that there were no threats to the economy or the Constitution before 2009.

Now they're claiming that health insurance premiums have never ever increased before this year.

Posted by: FrankIBC | February 1, 2011 9:21 PM | Report abuse

"Note to Republicans: Next time you decide to topple a government in the Middle East, give 10 students laptops and internet access. Leave US troops home."

I wouldn't gloat yet. The 1979 Iranian Revolution was a student uprising, too. 52 Americans were taken hostage for well over a year, and released on Reagan's Inauguration Day, 1981.

Iran's been a basket case ever since.

Posted by: EowynR | February 1, 2011 9:13 PM | Report abuse

No doubt more economic refugees will be fleeing the Socialism of Maryland to the free enterprise of Virginia. Before too long, only Dems/Socialists/Progressives/Communists will be left in Maryland. Who will pay the bills then?

Posted by: FormerDemocrat | February 1, 2011 8:57 PM | Report abuse

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Cry me a river! Write the Governor and Legislature asking for a MD state public option!

Posted by: croftonpost | February 1, 2011 9:10 PM | Report abuse

The repeal effort by rightwing conservative Republicans is going to lose, and quickly. It's just the beginning to the Republican change from No to Loss. Good thing, too.

Posted by: dudh | February 1, 2011 9:08 PM | Report abuse

Donald Berwick must be so disappointed - just when he was going to start rationing healthcare (starting with the elderly), plans have to be put on hold.

Posted by: cellus | February 1, 2011 9:02 PM | Report abuse

Note to Republicans:

Next time you decide to topple a government in the Middle East, give 10 students laptops and internet access. Leave US troops home.

Posted by: exco | February 1, 2011 8:59 PM | Report abuse

I have begun writing letters to the Governor and Legislature of Maryland voicing my support for a MD state public option. Given the political composition of Maryland I'm quite certain the votes would be there and would stay there (no possible Republican repeal campaign).

Posted by: hateisnotafamilyvalue | February 1, 2011 11:26 AM | Report abuse


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No doubt more economic refugees will be fleeing the Socialism of Maryland to the free enterprise of Virginia. Before too long, only Dems/Socialists/Progressives/Communists will be left in Maryland. Who will pay the bills then?

Posted by: FormerDemocrat | February 1, 2011 8:57 PM | Report abuse

The republican war on the middle class continues. Anything that benefits them must be cut, repealed, or killed. How anybody other than a millionaire can vote for these corporate hacks and right wing extremist American Taliban is amazing.

Posted by: losthorizon10 | February 1, 2011 8:54 PM | Report abuse

EowynR,

Where did you get the idea that somebody going on their parents plan is being subsidized by YOU? The parents are paying for it not you and please don't give me the higher premium argument. Health care costs have been skyrocketing for thirty years. Trying to blame higher health care premiums this year on Obamacare is overly simplistic. Was Obamacare responsible for the ridiculous premium hikes the past thirty years? Further, comparing health care costs now to when you were 23 is apples and oranges. My daughter is currently in college and her health care premium is five times what I had to pay at her age and I'm approximately your age. Wages certainly haven't increased at anywhere near that rate.

Posted by: croftonpost | February 1, 2011 8:54 PM | Report abuse

Oh boy! The judge has freed all of us from having to buy health insurance! Now we don't have to pay premiums and only those dumb enough to continue to carry it will pay for our health care! Wow! What a great deal. I'm really glad the Republicans are fighting so hard to guarantee my right to pass the cost of my health care on to others. That's really the traditional American values they stand for.

Posted by: amstphd | February 1, 2011 8:49 PM | Report abuse

The constitution was seriously violated when Republicans enacted the Patriot Act, Illegal Wiretaps, and Homeland Security. If they want to clean things up they need to begin with their own criminal acts.

Posted by: Maddogg | February 1, 2011 8:47 PM | Report abuse

"The past 30 years, we've made more of a priority of robbing future generations for the sake of giving the wealthy more tax relief."

Wrong and absolutely false data on your part.

Not only does bottom 47% of taxpayers pay NO federal income tax, but the bottom 40% get money back.

The top 5% pay about 60% of the federal tax bill. The top 1% pay *more* in federal taxes than the bottom 95%.

Here's a chart showing you tax rates from 20 years back:

http://tinyurl.com/6c7w5rf

Posted by: EowynR | February 1, 2011 8:45 PM | Report abuse

I am so tired of McConnell! As many of stated, I want him to forgo insurance. I want him to have to wait till he becomes critical, and then go find insurance.

Posted by: sarlat | February 1, 2011 8:44 PM | Report abuse

PUBLIC OPTION, PUBLIC OPTION,PUBLIC OPTION, PUBLIC OPTION,PUBLIC OPTION, PUBLIC OPTION,PUBLIC OPTION, PUBLIC OPTION,PUBLIC OPTION, PUBLIC OPTION,PUBLIC OPTION, PUBLIC OPTION,PUBLIC OPTION, PUBLIC OPTION,PUBLIC OPTION, PUBLIC OPTION,PUBLIC OPTION, PUBLIC OPTION,PUBLIC OPTION, PUBLIC OPTION,PUBLIC OPTION, PUBLIC OPTION,PUBLIC OPTION, PUBLIC OPTION,PUBLIC OPTION, PUBLIC OPTION,PUBLIC OPTION, PUBLIC OPTION,

YES

Posted by: RepublicanRedRash1 | February 1, 2011 8:42 PM | Report abuse

"EowynR = typical Tea-Bagger. For many people $200 is real money. When you bought your insurance and your house it was clear possible a combined income of $44K was actually enough to purchase a house."

Thanks for the nice compliment.

$200 IS real money, but isn't your health something worth paying real money for?

Seriously, a car costs at least $200 a month in Virginia, just for insurance and taxes. Does this 23-year-old not have one of those?

Does this 23-year-old eat? $200 is real money for food, too. Do you want me to subsidize her food?

Is this 23-year-old on facebook? Who pays her $200-a-month iPhone and cable bill?

My taxes will go up by $400 a month to pay for our family's "cadillac" health plan. Isn't that real money? Do my small children's clothing and food and health care not matter as much as a healthy 23-year-old, who can't cough up $200 a month for health insurance?

I worked when I was 23. I skimped, I pinched, and I still am pinching now that I'm nearing 40. I am going to get soaked with new fees and taxes. I do NOT feel it is my responsibility to pay for an able-bodied 23-year-old's health care.

Young men and women in uniform are DYING in Iraq who are under 20 years old. They are not babies any more. A 23-year-old is perfectly capable of not going to Mommy and Daddy for a health care handout.

Posted by: EowynR | February 1, 2011 8:36 PM | Report abuse

OMG is this and "lower taxes" the only songs the gop know?

I guess when you represent the white old gun-toting geezers of the country there isn't much room for big new ideas.

Posted by: tafffy | February 1, 2011 8:33 PM | Report abuse

McConnell needs to mandate an unemployment level no more than 1%. Is this guy ever going to do something positive with his life?

Posted by: Maddogg | February 1, 2011 8:27 PM | Report abuse

EowynR = typical Tea-Bagger.

For many people $200 is real money.

When you bought your insurance and your house it was clear possible a combined income of $44K was actually enough to purchase a house.

Unless you are over 100 and lived through the Great Depression, you have no frame of reference for understanding what the current job market is like for the typical 23-year old.

Instead of snide remarks, you should probably apologize for all the money that you've stolen. You and your husband inherited an economy where the federal government committed real resources to public investment and made a priority of keeping debts in line.

The past 30 years, we've made more of a priority of robbing future generations for the sake of giving the wealthy more tax relief.

Posted by: JPRS | February 1, 2011 8:26 PM | Report abuse

Pop-N-Fresh Mitch McConnell is burning! Turn the oven off!

Posted by: johng1 | February 1, 2011 8:25 PM | Report abuse

But yeah, "Obamacare" is the reason that your insurer increased your premiums by 16 percent. It has nothing to do with insurers maximizing profits, protecting profit margins, or cost inflation within the health care sector that exists entirely independently of a law that doesn't fully come into line until 2014-2015.


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They would have raised rates regardless of what is going on or who's in charge. Insurance companies are in it for the money.

I want what our elected representatives have in terms of healthcare...and it's ALL paid for by the government.

Posted by: camera_eye_11 | February 1, 2011 8:22 PM | Report abuse

Senator stop wasting our time.

Posted by: SterlingLion | February 1, 2011 8:22 PM | Report abuse

To all you dimwits who think healthcare is a God given right

Healthcare is a commodity - just like gas, food, etc.

No one owes you anything - you can die and decrease the surplus population or you can pay the bill.

We can try to reform healthcare and cover more people or we can continue to pay for deadbeats and the working poor with yearly premium increases.

Don't worry about the "poor" Insurance industry - they'll get paid and paid well.

Posted by: tmcn2 | February 1, 2011 6:31 PM | Report abuse

#1-Your last statement leaves me confused as it seems to contradict everything else.

#2-Having said that EVERYBODY that thinks health care reform is about covering deadbeats who can't afford to pay for it is an IDIOT! No exceptions!!

No coverage due to pre-existing conditions has NOTHING to due with an ability to pay premiums. The health insurance industry doesn't care if you can afford premiums when they deny coverage due to pre-existing conditions! I'm sick and tired of reading posts by candya$$ conservatives that think this is about welfare because they are to lazy to read up on the problem.

Posted by: croftonpost | February 1, 2011 8:21 PM | Report abuse

McConnell, as a millionaire with Senate (paid by us) super health care, doesn't really care about health care for others. His ONE concern is to remain in the spotlight as a Big, Powerful man and safeguard HIS ill-gotten gains and benefits and those of his millionaire friends...like the Koch Brothers.

Despicable, amoral individual...not a single drop of compassion.

Why isn't that obvious to Kentuckians? Well, consider... after all, many Kentuckians believe that Noah gathered a mating pair of every species of dinosaur and led them onto the ark. Too bad that McConnell's ancestor wasn't assigned to clean the Rhino, Hippotamus, Dinosaur, and Elephant (African & Indian) stalls! Must have been a sweet smelling tour boat.

Posted by: lufrank1 | February 1, 2011 8:19 PM | Report abuse

The sad fact is the corporate run American media are unable to ask simple questions when faced with people like Mitch.
How many in your state are living in poverty?.
What are your graduation rates?.
How many dentists serve your population?.
What is your crime rate?.
How many people have health insurance?.
How many people are drug addicted?.
What are you doing for your state of Kentucky?.
So simple but so hard for the corporate run media.

Posted by: JillCalifornia | February 1, 2011 8:16 PM | Report abuse

The sad fact is the corporate run American media are unable to ask simple questions when faced with people like Mitch.
How many in your state are living in poverty?.
What are your graduation rates?.
How many dentists serve your population?.
What is your crime rate?.
How many people have health insurance?.
How many people are drug addicted?.
What are you doing for your state of Kentucky?.
So simple but so hard for the corporate run media.

Posted by: JillCalifornia | February 1, 2011 8:14 PM | Report abuse

"Close your eyes. Imagine a Republican multi-millionaire, an old guy who puts his class interests ahead of working Americans' interests."

Hmmm .... George Soros? Barack Obama? Bill Clinton? John Kerry? Nancy Pelosi?

Rich guys? Class interests above working Americans? Check.

Posted by: EowynR | February 1, 2011 8:12 PM | Report abuse

One of the most fundamental delusions of we humans is that we are the arbiters of choice and of outcomes. Republicorp, like all those who represent the stagnation of progress, and the ultimate brotherhood of Man, in their cynical haste, has CHOSEN to wrecklessly pathologize capitalism at ALL cost! However, their miscalculation has been that lies may live, but not forever! They are so drunk in their quest to economically, and spiritually, demoralize this country that they have put themselves on a path to lost credibility, and defeat by overreach. For at some point, in order to make a lie, a good lie, there must be some semblance of truth. However, they have totally invested in the path of total falsity which can never stand on its own. And ultimately, even those who have been fooled for so long will no longer be able to stand the stench of their utter contempt for people, and their unencumbered willingness to be syncophants for the corporatocracy! In fact this processs is already underway.

Posted by: D-0f-G | February 1, 2011 8:06 PM | Report abuse

McConnel is just upset that nobody cares what he thinks, other than his long-time friend Mubaruk.

Posted by: WillSeattle | February 1, 2011 8:03 PM | Report abuse

THis doesn't have a prayer of passing the Senate, and McConnell knows this - but by all means, waste precious Congressional time and taxpayer money on this charade.

Posted by: chop1 | February 1, 2011 8:00 PM | Report abuse

"My 23-year old daughter just started working after graduating from college last year. It is not a great salary but thankfully it is a job. For several months she had to pay over $200 monthly for health insurance."

Cry me an ambulance. I got married at 23, bought a house with my husband. We were both making 22K and we both paid for our insurance.

$200 a month is too much? Good heavens. My car insurance an maintenance costs that much.

I'm sure your daughter has an iPhone and cable. Hmmm??

Posted by: EowynR | February 1, 2011 8:00 PM | Report abuse

Sen. McConnell represents a state that for years has consistently scored below average in multiple health care categories.

Here is just one report from 2009 prepared by the US Department of Health and Human Services' Agency for Healthcare Research and Quality:
http://statesnapshots.ahrq.gov/snaps09/dashboard.jsp?menuId=4&state=KY&level=0

This move by McConnell is just one more example of Republicans letting their idealogical beliefs predominate over what's best for their constituents.

Posted by: DoreDad | February 1, 2011 7:55 PM | Report abuse

Mitch is exactly what Natalie Portman's parents tried to to teach her not to be one.

Posted by: p2dppd | February 1, 2011 7:54 PM | Report abuse

Mitch is exactly what Natalie Portman's parents tried to to teach her not to be one.

Posted by: p2dppd | February 1, 2011 7:54 PM | Report abuse

Mitch is exactly what Natalie Portman's parents tried to to teach her not to be one.

Posted by: p2dppd | February 1, 2011 7:53 PM | Report abuse

Mitch is exactly what Natalie Portmman's parents tried to to teach her not to be one.

Posted by: p2dppd | February 1, 2011 7:53 PM | Report abuse

You want to know why the GOP is so eager to go back? Just consider who put on a nice party in Rancho Mirage this last week, none other than the Koch brothers and friends, bankrollers of the "Tea Party".

If you really want to know where we are going as a country since St. Ronnie fed us the "no taxes on the rich!" Koolaid 30 years ago, follow the link to:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/michaeltomasky

And scroll down to "Income Inequality, Egypt vs US". We are #42, while Egypt is #90! Tunisia is "only" #62...This is what Ronnie started and Bush almost finished. The trouble with the current and recently past GOP is that they would rather rule a dung heap than try to govern a country.

Oh, well, so long as the Koch brothers and their reactionary libertarian friends keep them on retainer, the GOP is happy.

Posted by: lieb1 | February 1, 2011 7:50 PM | Report abuse

I just opened a letter from Blue Cross Blue Shield stating that my family's premium is increasing 16.67% effective 3/1/11. Oh, and that's for a policy with a $10,000 deductible against which no claim has been paid--I mean no claim--since 1996. All of the health care costs for my family of four have come out of my pocket or out of the Health Savings Account that I contribute to out of my own pocket.

Just exactly what has ObamaCare done for me? I'm a poster child for what really should be done to control costs, yet, as I expected, my costs are going up to pay for this epic piece of nonsense. Repeal it.

Posted by: LHS2

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Insurance prices have increased two-fold since 2000 in the individual insurance market.

e.g. last year in California BEFORE the passage of the health care law, some insurers increased premiums by 60 and 70 percent in the individual insurance market.

The reforms in the individual insurance market don't kick in in full until 2014-2015, so it's very likely that the 16 percent increase in your premiums is independent of the passage of the law itself.

When the full reforms kick in in 2014-2015 the biggest beneficiaries are likely to be people who are healthy and already have insurance (e.g. because of subsidies to purchase insurance, an expansion of the insurance pool to include a large number of people who are healthy, and the introduction of medical-loss ratios).

But yeah, "Obamacare" is the reason that your insurer increased your premiums by 16 percent. It has nothing to do with insurers maximizing profits, protecting profit margins, or cost inflation within the health care sector that exists entirely independently of a law that doesn't fully come into line until 2014-2015.

Posted by: JPRS | February 1, 2011 7:50 PM | Report abuse

Close your eyes. Imagine a Republican multi-millionaire, an old guy who puts his class interests ahead of working Americans' interests. Tell me, honestly, if you can come up with a better personification of this selfish, self-interested greed than Sen. Mitch McConnell, R-Ky.

Posted by: jimsteinberg1 | February 1, 2011 7:48 PM | Report abuse

Contrary to Republican claims, polls are showing that most Americans don't favor repeal of the health care law: http://www.pbs.org/newshour/rundown/2011/01/poll-support-for-health-care-repeal-drops.html. In fact when those who oppose the law because they feel it should be stronger are factored in, the vaunted majority who support the Republican position disappears.

Posted by: browneri | February 1, 2011 7:43 PM | Report abuse


McConnell and Boehner, WHERE ARE THE JOBS?


Posted by: mortified469 | February 1, 2011 7:41 PM | Report abuse

Contrary the Republican claims polls are showing that most Americans don't favor repeal even though most have objections to the law. http://www.pbs.org/newshour/rundown/2011/01/poll-support-for-health-care-repeal-drops.html There are also those who oppose the law because they don't feel it goes far enough. Thus the vaunted "overawhelming majority" which oppose favor repeal disapears.

Posted by: browneri | February 1, 2011 7:35 PM | Report abuse

Kentucky?. the state that has no poor people, the state that has young people walking around with no teeth thanks to their love of "mountain dew', meth, and lack of education.
Mitch and Hosni are soul mates.

Posted by: JillCalifornia | February 1, 2011 7:26 PM | Report abuse

Maybe after this exercise we can get the Republicans to vote again for the unprovoked war in Iraq, and for turning budget surpluses into deficits, and for creating a new unfunded prescription drug entitlement, and for bailing out Wall Street...

Heck, let's replay all the Republican's greatest hits of the last decade.

Posted by: wireknob | February 1, 2011 7:26 PM | Report abuse

I just opened a letter from Blue Cross Blue Shield stating that my family's premium is increasing 16.67% effective 3/1/11. Oh, and that's for a policy with a $10,000 deductible against which no claim has been paid--I mean no claim--since 1996. All of the health care costs for my family of four have come out of my pocket or out of the Health Savings Account that I contribute to out of my own pocket.

Just exactly what has ObamaCare done for me? I'm a poster child for what really should be done to control costs, yet, as I expected, my costs are going up to pay for this epic piece of nonsense. Repeal it.

Posted by: LHS2 | February 1, 2011 7:22 PM | Report abuse

Mitch McConnell is too old, shriveled, and scary looking to be in the Senate.

Posted by: markiejoe | February 1, 2011 7:18 PM | Report abuse

The courts are going to decide this as O'Connell well knows. He's just milking this for political reasons. It's time for him to stop the BS and get on with the people's business. If he's doesn't believe in government, then he should get out of it and do something else.

Posted by: seldoc1 | February 1, 2011 7:13 PM | Report abuse

Repeal this bill and "Let them eat cake!" As long as the rich are taken care of, we will be ok. Leave the insurance companies alone so that they can continue to make a lot of money, deny coverage to the sick, and keep raising our rates 15% to 20% each year. Why do you liberals want what's best for you?

Posted by: Blackman2 | February 1, 2011 7:10 PM | Report abuse

thomas777 (aka thomas666),

No one that I know is saying "we need to ensure that every American can have health care coverage for everything without any regard for the cost".

What a lot of people are saying is:

Why is it that the richest country in the world fails to provide a basic level of health care for its entire population?

When you look at every other developed Democracy -- Japan, Germany (where there are a large number of smokers and some obese people too), the UK, France, Switzerland, Canada, Netherlands, South Korea, Taiwan, Israel, Australia, etc, etc, etc -- every other country is able to provide quality universal health care coverage at a substantially lower cost than the U.S. The U.S. spends two to three times more per capita than other countries on health care for only partial coverage that is often no higher quality than what's found in the U.S.

As far as "choice" goes, right now the choice is: If you are too young for Medicare, too rich for Medicaid, and you are not fortunate enough to work for Congress, or a large company where health care is provided as a part of the job benefit, then you are basically on your own.

The GOP response has been: OK, let 20,000 to 30,000 Americans who can't get access to timely, affordable medical care die each year. They're just a bunch of ordinary schmucks. If they were dumb enough to vote for us, then that's their problem.

The people who are driven in bankruptcy due to medical costs and the fact that they aren't rich? Tough luck. Their lives and the financial security of their families is less valuable to us than insuring that our campaign contributors in the health care and financial sector are able to squeeze those struggling families for as much as possible. As Republicans, it's one of our unspoken mottos: When people are struggling finish them off. When people are down kick them again until they stop moving. After all isn't this what Jesus tells us to do? Wasn't the central message of the Sermon on the Mount "punish the poor"?

Posted by: JPRS | February 1, 2011 7:03 PM | Report abuse

Still waiting for McConnell to renounce his own socialist, taxpayer-funded health insurance and dive into the private market he's so enthusiastic about...

Posted by: treetopflyer | February 1, 2011 7:03 PM | Report abuse

My 23-year old daughter just started working after graduating from college last year. It is not a great salary but thankfully it is a job. For several months she had to pay over $200 monthly for health insurance. Starting January 1, 2011 she returned to my health insurance plan thanks to the Affordable Care Act. Now these whack jobs want to take that benefit from her so the freeloaders continue having the "freedom" to not pay for health insurance. Our family will remember that for a long, long time especially every November.

Posted by: Viewpoint2 | February 1, 2011 7:02 PM | Report abuse

Obaqmacare is getting slammed by everyone and even the Senate may repeal it! This is a great day for America.

Posted by: Realist201 | February 1, 2011 7:00 PM | Report abuse

Er, isn't it past Mitch's bed-time? He ought to settle down with a nice, warm glass of warm milk and take a long snooze.

Posted by: arnnmann1 | February 1, 2011 6:59 PM | Report abuse

Chippewa wrote: "C'mon on, Senate Democrats. Take an up or down vote on repeal. What are you afraid of? If the health care plan is so great, there's no reason for you to be afraid of supporting it. The voters deserve to know where you stand."

They already did vote on it, that's how it became law. Remember? How many times does Congress have to vote on the same piece of legislation to satisfy you? It's not like we don't have lots of other legislation that needs to be addressed.

Posted by: wireknob | February 1, 2011 6:57 PM | Report abuse

First of all, 75% of Americans DO NOT want it repealed. Secondly, you'll need a super majority to pass a repeal vote, so enough the political games, which are only intended to appease your base, and how about focusing on jobs and the economy.

Posted by: ggwalt | February 1, 2011 6:57 PM | Report abuse

tmcn2 wrote "Don't worry about the "poor" Insurance industry - they'll get paid and paid well."

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Who is paying them? We -- the tax payers are -- even without Obama's health reform. The for profit hospitals and for profit doctors write off the unpaid bills against their tax bill -- thus reducing their taxes.

The children of the poor that end up with bad teeth and bad health cost the tax peyers every day because when they do show up for care the level of care needed is much more expensive.

The economy suffers because the insurance companies and the health care industry has been increasing cost EVERY YEAR -- beyond the cost of inflation.

What will you do when you can't afford your health isurance? Look to the right? Good luck - they don't care whether you live or die as long as you don't cost them anything and then they just want you to die - quietly. Unless, that is, if they can use you for a politcal gain as they did with Terry Schaivo and the moron GOP politician (Bill Frist) who saw her on TV and said she is just fine - not brain dead. She was as are "W", Jeb and Frist.

Posted by: Freethotlib | February 1, 2011 6:47 PM | Report abuse

It's still true that if you give Republicans enough rope they'll hang themselves every time. Every poll has shown that the health care law, and Obama for that matter, have far more support among the public than Republicans. If Republicans actually deed succeed in repealing the law (unlikely), it would only give Democrats more ammunition to attack them as the obstructionist 'party of No'. Republicans will have to explain just what about having one-third of the population with no access to medical care, being ripped off by crooked insurance companies, they find so appealing. Maybe if Republican politicians had to deal with this themselves, instead of having the guaranteed-for-life government medical care they're so determined to deny to the rest of us, they'd change their tune.

Posted by: DaveHarris | February 1, 2011 6:39 PM | Report abuse

Dear Lord, I am an American, I do not deserve Health Care, Nor do I deserve Social Security, Nor do I deserve Medicare, I do not need an Education. I do not deserve a job or a Home for my family. I should not want what the rest of the World is striving for or already has. These are but selfish things. Lord make me stupid and keep me poor so I can vote for a Republican and support the Rich. Let me believe their lies that they will stop abortion. Make me ignorant for ignorance is bliss. Leave me to be ignorant,fat,or starved and die early like those the 3rd world countries. Take away my Heating in the dead of winter so I can freeze to death along with my brothers and sisters who lost their heating assistance in Michigan when the new Republican Gov.redistributed funds so they can spend money for Business advertising. This will bring me closer to you lord far sooner than I imagined when I was young.

Posted by: Americacares | February 1, 2011 6:37 PM | Report abuse

Conservatives lie when they accuse Obama of killing jobs. Fact is, "W" and the conservatives have done that and been doing that since 1980. One example:

-- The BLS has issued new report on Silicon valley employment. Bear in mind this report is before this recession. In 2000 silicon valley had 544,387 techie jobs. By 2004, the California region tech hub had an official drop of 26% to 403,994 high technology jobs.
Now check out the pathetic growth after that. By 2008 the California Bay area had 435,958 technology jobs. That is 20% below the 2000 employment levels.
2002, the year of offshore outsourcing, the area lost 60% of the jobs.
Even worse, in 2003 the top 150 high tech. companies had a 170% profit increase. So, they created profits by pure labor arbitrage.

I'll follow with more as the right continues trying to blame Obama for their FAILURES.

Posted by: Freethotlib | February 1, 2011 6:33 PM | Report abuse

To all you dimwits who think healthcare is a God given right

Healthcare is a commodity - just like gas, food, etc.

No one owes you anything - you can die and decrease the surplus population or you can pay the bill.

We can try to reform healthcare and cover more people or we can continue to pay for deadbeats and the working poor with yearly premium increases.

Don't worry about the "poor" Insurance industry - they'll get paid and paid well.

Posted by: tmcn2 | February 1, 2011 6:31 PM | Report abuse

To all you dimwits who think healthcare is a God given right

Healthcare is a commodity - just like gas, food, etc.

No one owes you anything - you can die and decrease the surplus population or you can pay the bill.

We can try to reform healthcare and cover more people or we can continue to pay for deadbeats and the working poor with yearly premium increases.

Don't worry about the "poor" Insurance industry - they'll get paid and paid well.

Posted by: tmcn2 | February 1, 2011 6:31 PM | Report abuse

Mitch! Give up your US taxpayer paid medical insurance!

Posted by: hsolares | February 1, 2011 6:30 PM | Report abuse

Hey McConnell and Graham: JOBS????? I thought JOBS were the priority?

charko825 wrote: Two years into his Administration and the policies of Obama continue to kill jobs in America.

Uhhh, no. The first 2 Obama years put the previous 8 to shame. Not enough to put everyone back to work but still a better record than GWB.

I repeat to Republicans McConnell and Graham, get off your culture wars and start concentrating on JOBS. And I say to Boehner, chop, chop, time's wasting, where are the jobs?

Posted by: wrfarm1 | February 1, 2011 6:25 PM | Report abuse

thomas777,

You rail against the obese but what about the diseased? Is cancer the fault of the individual too or does paying any attention to the diseased make your argument infantile? YES

DenverCOSteve,

Believe it or not we can scroll rapidly through you hundred or so posts. Nice 1st grade effort though.

GOP,

Where's the plan for the new jobs? I haven't heard a peep from you.

Where's the replacement plan if your obsessive repeal plan works? I haven't seen anything yet. Could it be that you don't really have one and you were just blowing smoke out you a$$es last year.

If you live in MD then write the Governor and Legislature requesting a MD state public option.

Posted by: croftonpost | February 1, 2011 6:16 PM | Report abuse

Guess the GOP politicians are dropping that "...and replace" from their mantra. Wonder if it's because they have nothing to offer, or if what they have would be ridiculed?

Posted by: mingkeeper | February 1, 2011 6:13 PM | Report abuse

Guess the GOP are dropping that "...and replace" part. Is it because they have nothing to replace it with, or that what they propose would be ridiculed?

Posted by: mingkeeper | February 1, 2011 6:11 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: zendog | February 1, 2011 6:11 PM | Report abuse

Democrats built this monster in the mistaken belief that this was the lynchpin to an unshakable majority. It hasn't worked out that way. It created a backlash that has not yet peaked. There are many former members of Congress who trusted their leadership, and are now back home. Somebody, some adult, in the Democratic leadership needs to step up and admit 1) this is not going to be any more popular than its current history and 2) its not working for the Party. Its very likely to be overturned, underfunded or repealed. It is not a majority maker, so change the subject. This one is not working for Dems. It's a real problem until it's off the table. Trying to hold party discipline against that tide is going to be a challenge, high risk, and with little reward at this point.

The 111th Congressional leadership asked for blind faith with the 'vote for it so you can see what's in it' strategy. Its been a debacle.

Let the Republicans repeal it... the 30% or so of people that still favor this (impossible to easily understand) legal construction will never abandon the Democratic Party, but nobody is beating a path to the door to the Democrats by embracing 'Death Panels', and the real fear that the middle class will be getting less than they have now, just basic/indigent quality care while the Administration doles out waivers/ work arounds to some. It isn't a winning issue for Democrats, but some in the leadership are determined that it WILL be embraced, despite all the growing evidence that they have mis-judged this one, badly.

Single Payer is easy to understand, conceptually... it's Santa Claus for some, Robin Hood for others. This thing is about as easy to describe as downhill naked Twister bobsledding.

Posted by: verticalrealestate | February 1, 2011 6:10 PM | Report abuse

charko825 wrote:
WAY TO GO BARRY!!! You've really brought peace and love to the world!!

Hey Barry!! Can you be anymore incompetent!! something tells me you can!!

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Man some of you just hate your elected President (Obama), a President that was elected by the people of this Great Country! what are you going to do when he wins a second turn? Would you do us a favor and just leave and take your racial dripping hatred along with you. When you call Obama “Barry” we all know what you are really calling him! Call a spade a spade people will respect you more.

Posted by: 3doubleu | February 1, 2011 6:05 PM | Report abuse

mr. magoo, dude, you all voted against it and lost. get over it. btw, barrasso -- dude, "dagger to the heart" -- nice violent imagery, bro.

Posted by: joeblow111 | February 1, 2011 6:02 PM | Report abuse

YAWN......


I've got news for the extremist Republican party:


Now that you have some actual power again (the House) you won't be able to get away with spending all of your time throwing verbal bombs at the Dems, going golfing and then hitting the DC cocktail circuit at night every day.


You either CREATE JOBS or you will be gone in 2012 so fast that your heads will spin.


Chop chop Repugs!


You've got two years!


Time's a wastin'!


.

Posted by: DrainYou | February 1, 2011 5:57 PM | Report abuse

It is amazing how Harry "Houdini" Reid and Nancy "Nightingale" Pelosi can take a 2,300 page bill that they haven't read (and wouldn't understand it if they did read it) and turn it into a few frightening, made for the media, bullet points.

Simple terms for simple minded Americans. We should just believe it is good for us and it will save the country a bunch of money and provide terrific health care - because our leaders say so.......

I guess the examples that have come before it are the model for the health care bill's future purported success - like social security, medicare, medicaid, the military complex, department of energy, department of education, TSA, government over site of finance and banking, etc....

All of the above have been rousing successes - if impending disaster was the long term objective. So of course Harry and Nancy are sure the health care bill will turn out just as well!!

Please spare the country any more of your good intentions. We are barely keeping our heads above water with all of the help you've given us already. I don't think we can take any more.

P.S. - does anybody really believe that these politicians believe the stuff they tell us to believe?

Posted by: putzel | February 1, 2011 5:54 PM | Report abuse

I have followed politics since Ike was in office.The GOP's key to success has always been to prey on the greed and larceny in the hearts of men. By preaching "self reliance and liberty" they are like the wolf talking you out in to the open where you become very vulnerable but such folks do not see that til its too late. The GOP in the Senate is composed of persons of independent means; they do not have to work for a living. All of you GOP supporters that do have to work for a living have been used... and will be abused ...but you asked for it I would bet that most of the pro-repeal supporters on these blogs are insurance company shills/relatives or paid to blog...like the GOP senate

Posted by: RPLCO | February 1, 2011 5:52 PM | Report abuse

The Republicans attempt to sell the same old elixir-------only warmed over and repackaged for the new suckers.
Pitiful stuff.

Posted by: kacameron | February 1, 2011 5:52 PM | Report abuse

I have followed politics since Ike was in office.The GOP's key to success has always been to prey on the greed and larceny in the hearts of men. By preaching "self reliance and liberty" they are like the wolf talking you out in to the open where you become very vulnerable but such folks do not see that til its too late. The GOP in the Senate is composed of persons of independent means; they do not have to work for a living. All of you GOP supporters that do have to work for a living have been used... and will be abused ...but you asked for it I would bet that most of the pro-repeal supporters on these blogs are insurance company shills/relatives or paid to blog...like the GOP senate

Posted by: RPLCO | February 1, 2011 5:51 PM | Report abuse

LLLLosers

Posted by: zendog | February 1, 2011 5:49 PM | Report abuse

Since the Republicans say they are against the whole law, I want them to stand up and say in unison they want to deny insurance to children with pre-existing conditions. Otherwise, baloney.

Posted by: scrub-brush | February 1, 2011 5:48 PM | Report abuse

More business confidence after Shellacking Part 1, Obamacare headed for the trash heap and Shellacking Part 2 on the horizon. All good news for America...

Posted by: thejames1225 | February 1, 2011 5:48 PM | Report abuse

Republicans lie about job creation.

Posted by: ExConservative | February 1, 2011 5:46 PM | Report abuse

Grow up, McConnell and ya'll Repubs...

You don't have any ideas and the American people are beginning to see thru yer childish rope-a-doping...

Just grow the heck up...

Bob

Posted by: bobnpvine | February 1, 2011 5:46 PM | Report abuse

OK, it is obvious the Republicans want to deny our President of anything positive. Just wondering what plan they have to change Health Care in our country. Seems to me if they have their way, the Insurance companies will benefit more than they do now and of course those who oppose the president will get great windfalls of monies.

Posted by: bastet1 | February 1, 2011 5:44 PM | Report abuse

Isn't it amazing what a loser Obamacare has turned out to be for the Dims? Or is it more amusing than amazing?

This massive trasfer of wealth from those who work & invest to the drones, social parasites & illegal aliens among us misleadingly called health care reform cost the Dims control of the U.S. House, 7 Senate seats (including one in Mass.), 680 seats in state legislatures across the nation, & 12 governorships & yet the Dims have have managed to convince themselves it's a political winner and good social policy regardless it's been soundly rejected by the American people and obviously is unconstitutional.

But of course, the Dims, capable of any self-deception and under-handed lying to the rest of us, foisted off onto us the foerign-born, ergo anti-constitutional, usurper in the WH.

Posted by: LoachDriver | February 1, 2011 5:44 PM | Report abuse

Those folks don't need any healthcare and if they do make 'em work harder for it.
We 'gotta look after our big-business benefactors. What have the poor and middle class done for us lately.
The Republican mantra has always been, I upped my income------------Up Yours!

Posted by: kacameron | February 1, 2011 5:44 PM | Report abuse

Isn't it amazing what a loser Obamacare has turned out to be for the Dims? Or is it more amusing than amazing?

This massive trasfer of wealth from those who work & invest to the drones, social parasites & illegal aliens among us misleadingly called health care reform cost the Dims control of the U.S. House, 7 Senate seats (including one in Mass.), 680 seats in state legislatures across the nation, & 12 governorships & yet the Dims have have managed to convince themselves it's a political winner and good social policy regardless it's been soundly rejected by the American people and obviously is unconstitutional.

But of course, the Dims, capable of any self-deception and under-handed lying to the rest of us, foisted off onto us the foerign-born, ergo anti-constitutional, usurper in the WH.

Posted by: LoachDriver | February 1, 2011 5:43 PM | Report abuse

Ok lets face it, anyone who believes the democrats are for the people would have to be out of their mind. but we have no one to blame but ourselves for all the lies and crap we listen to from those clowns. ok healthcare was top priority when the majority of the country didn't want it but the likes of certain individuals didn't care didn't care what anyone had to say. so a bill over 2000 pages long is passed that no one could read until it passed, and then we find out all the back door sneaky stuff that was stuffed in that is gonna help (americans)yeah right.If any thing was for the american citizen, then why all the secrecy, why the urgency to get it pushed through and why is this more important than jobs. how do americans pay for this health care without jobs, oh wait thats where the control of government comes in to play. No I don't trust any of the polititions, but certain individuals are corrupt and we let it go on. certain individuals can say one thing in front of a camera and 5 minutes later deny saying it. or they'll do one thing and criticise someone else for doing the same if they are republican. let's face it there is a real lack of compassion for american citizens in the government, and where there is compassion there is a lack of cahonies to stand up against cetain individuals in the government Hint former M.leader. let me ask this question did anyone knock on your door and ask your opinion on obamacare or any thing that is in the bill. No because they don't care what you think they just care what THEY
think. here's a thought if the government took more time to consider what is best for Americans and not their own wallets maybe just maybe we could start making real changes that help and not hurt us.

Posted by: ndr15950 | February 1, 2011 5:40 PM | Report abuse

Isn't it amazing what a loser Obamacare has turned out to be for the Dims? Or is it more amusing than amazing?

This massive trasfer of wealth from those who work & invest to the drones, social parasites & illegal aliens among us misleadingly called health care reform cost the Dims control of the U.S. House, 7 Senate seats (including one in Mass.), 680 seats in state legislatures across the nation, & 12 governorships & yet the Dims have have manged to convince themselves it's a political winner and good social policy regardless it's been soundly rejected by the American people and obviously is unconstitutional.

But of course, the Dims, capable of any self-deception and under-handed lying to the rest of us, foisted off onto us the foerign-born, ergo anti-constitutional, usurper in the WH.

Posted by: LoachDriver | February 1, 2011 5:40 PM | Report abuse

So the GOP and their teabagger pupeteers think that all of us who pay for our health insurance should also pay for those "patriotic" practioners of "personal responsibility" who want to refuse to buy insurance and then pass their inevitable and large emergency care bills off to the rest of us to the tune of $43 billion/year.

And they call Obama a "socialist".

Am I the only one who fails to see the logic in their position?

Posted by: ceefer66 | February 1, 2011 5:40 PM | Report abuse

Isn't it amazing what a loser Obamacare has turned out to be for the Dims? Or is it more amusing than amazing? This after they wasted a year of their control of gov't on it.

This massive trasfer of wealth from those who work & invest to the drones, social parasites & illegal aliens among us misleadingly called health care reform cost the Dims control of the U.S. House, 7 Senate seats (including one in Mass.), 680 seats in state legislatures across the nation, & 12 governorships & yet the Dims have have managed to convince themselves it's a political winner and good social policy regardless it's been soundly rejected by the American people and obviously is unconstitutional.

But of course, the Dims, capable of any self-deception and under-handed lying to the rest of us, foisted off onto us the foreign-born, ergo anti-constitutional, usurper in the WH.

Posted by: LoachDriver | February 1, 2011 5:38 PM | Report abuse

WHat is all this nonsense about Obama "losing" jobs" The economy shed 7.5 million jobs in the republicon depression prior to president Oabam taking office. Since then there has been a net gain of more than 2 million. Either you are so stupid that you truely think that a bigger number of jobs is "job loss" or you are lying.

And all the lies about the HCR act costing more than its repeal? No bodys numbers show that. Unless you use boner math and count the same costs multiple times in your calcualtions. The "expensive" part is a lie. The "adding to the dficit" is a lie. The "Obama lost jobs" is a lie. Not opinion. Not spin. Simple flat out lies. No matter how many times you repeat it l;ike the "Big Lie" tactic repuggies like so much, no matter if you scream it out the window or type it in all caps, a lie is a lie is a lie. You cannot simply say tings because you WANT them to be true and they magically become true.

The stock market closed above 12,000 today for the first time since 2007. JObs have been added every month for the past year. US corporations are sitting on the single largest cash reserves they have ever had in history (but the bashtards would rather make you work more for less than hire adequate numbers of workers - because that way they steal more from you that which you produce)

You righties are cheering for more expensive less affordable health care, and policies the right used and failed in 1873,1893, 1907, 1929, 1973, 1981,1987,1991,2991,2007....

Posted by: John1263 | February 1, 2011 5:37 PM | Report abuse

Jobs! Jobs! Jobs! Fighting the Healthcare law by the Republicans is nothing more than wasted time because they have no means to find or create more jobs. The past election in November, Republicans ran on a platform to create more jobs and lower the deficit. The first thing they did after the election was increased the deficit by giving the super rich the tax extension, and now jobs are placed on the back burner. The Healthcare law is the best law since Social Security and they tried to repeal that law. Fighting will only lead to a stalemate in the Senate and nothing will get done to improve the lives of the average American citizen by creating jobs as was promised during the election. If the Republicans would apply half as much time on Jobs as they are toward repeal of the Healthcare law the problem of creating jobs in America would cease to exist. McConnell, his gang, and Judge Vinson in Florida are all wet because none of the 26 States want to lose their Federal monies being presently received for Medicare, opt out is definitely suicidal. This is nothing but a ploy by Republicans because they have no answer for creating Jobs.

Posted by: rrcrosby | February 1, 2011 5:36 PM | Report abuse

Straightline wrote "Reaching much? What a spin. "Ripple effect of Bush" LMAO easily the most ridiculous post of the day.

BDS (Bush Derangement Syndrome)is truly a devastating mental illness."

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Bush handed Obama an economy going into the toilet. The only folks suffering BDS are conservatives as they try, try, try to deny that fact.

-- Ohio has lost 262,383 jobs -- 5% of its work force -- since 2000, data shows. Cleaveland.com

-- 1.2 million jobs were lost in 2008 (cnn)

You can try and try but the conservatives have severely damaged this country with its BORROWING (83% of the national debt handed to Obama was BORROWED by Reagan, Bush and Bush). Conservatives have pushed the outsourcing of jobs and the Chamber of Commerce brags about its success in doing that.

You are the fool and I find people like you amusingly ignorant and proud of it.


Posted by: Freethotlib | February 1, 2011 5:36 PM | Report abuse

Isn't it amazing what a loser Obamacare has turned out to be for the Dims? Or is it more amusing than amazing? This after they wasted a year of their control of gov't on it.

This massive trasfer of wealth from those who work & invest to the drones, social parasites & illegal aliens among us misleadingly called health care reform cost the Dims control of the U.S. House, 7 Senate seats (including one in Mass.), 680 seats in state legislatures across the nation, & 12 governorships & yet the Dims have have managed to convince themselves it's a political winner and good social policy regardless it's been soundly rejected by the American people and obviously is unconstitutional.

But of course, the Dims, capable of any self-deception and under-handed lying to the rest of us, foisted off onto us the foreign-born, ergo anti-constitutional, usurper in the WH.

Posted by: LoachDriver | February 1, 2011 5:35 PM | Report abuse

It is time for the GOP to get a backbone and stop being a bunch of pantywaists. Do not back down McConnell. Repeal that freedom stealing bill. Do not listen to all the radical Liberals who do not represent the majority.

Posted by: onealethia | February 1, 2011 5:33 PM | Report abuse

McConnell was given the name by some cartoonist-- The Human Turtle. He will retreat back into his shell and hold out until he gets what he wants. It does not matter if it is good for the country, only if it will bring him and his cronies more money. Neither party can do anything because the other party plays hold out games, and the taxpayer suffers.

Posted by: bastet1 | February 1, 2011 5:32 PM | Report abuse

Harry Reid vowed several weeks ago the Senate would never vote on the repeal bill. Now the Senate is voting.

Everyone said the House repeal vote was just symbolic.

Libs called the law suits challenging Obamacare "frivolous."

The House will defund Obamacare.

How many Liberal Senators want to jump aboard a sinking ship?

Libs are starting to worry.

Did Libs waste a year and a half building a mirage that will quickly fade away?

Bye-Bye ObamaCare

Posted by: jfv123 | February 1, 2011 5:32 PM | Report abuse

The fascist Republicans in Congress continue their march toward creating Nazi government in America.

Posted by: dsrobins | February 1, 2011 5:31 PM | Report abuse

In this chaotic discussion of the Health Care Law, has anyone else noticed that insurance is purely socialist? Irony...

Posted by: damascuspride04 | February 1, 2011 5:30 PM | Report abuse

Two parting thoughts - the MORON who thinks that continuing to implement the law while an illigitimate lower court decision is "CONTEMPT while that illigitimate decision is appealed is "-- well, a MORON. vinson, a slimey bushie, said in his opinion that even he knows it is "activist" ruling based not on law but on his personal bias. That is why he refused to issue an injunction.

And the fools who do not think the Constitutionality of this law was "considered" might want to read it. It not only specifically cites the enumerted powers which enable congress to pass it, it also cites the case law in support. (Obama was a professor of Constitutional Law after all. The people drafting the legislation are lawmakers and many are also lawyers. He and they might know just a little more about it than you basement dwelling rightards.)

Posted by: John1263 | February 1, 2011 5:27 PM | Report abuse

Two parting thoughts - the MORON who thinks that continuing to implement the law while an illigitimate lower court decision is "CONTEMPT while that illigitimate decision is appealed is "-- well, a MORON. vinson, a slimey bushie, said in his opinion that even he knows it is "activist" ruling based not on law but on his personal bias. That is why he refused to issue an injunction.

And the fools who do not think the Constitutionality of this law was "considered" might want to read it. It not only specifically cites the enumerted powers which enable congress to pass it, it also cites the case law in support. (Obama was a professor of Constitutional Law after all. The people drafting the legislation are lawmakers and many are also lawyers. He and they might know just a little more about it than you basement dwelling rightards.)

Posted by: John1263 | February 1, 2011 5:26 PM | Report abuse

The loss of jobs due to Obama is one of the great big lies being used by the right. We have had conservative Presidents for 20 of the last 32 years and during that time America lost huge chunks of industry. A conservative organization (the Chamber of Commerce) BRAGS about its success in the outsourcing of American jobs. Reagan called for the US to become a service economy (conservative speak for outsourcing our manufacturing jobs). Blaming Obama just plain wrong BUT LYING TO THE American people is a conservative trait.

Posted by: Freethotlib | February 1, 2011 5:25 PM | Report abuse

Jobs are a lagging indicator...so the jobs that were shed when Obama took office are the ripple affect of the Bush administration's tactics.

Posted by: fhcgsps | February 1, 2011 5:04 PM

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Reaching much? What a spin. "Ripple effect of Bush" LMAO easily the most ridiculous post of the day.

BDS (Bush Derangement Syndrome)is truly a devastating mental illness.

Posted by: Straightline | February 1, 2011 5:25 PM | Report abuse

Go for it! Vote on each plank separately. First repeal the provision that requires insurers to insure people with pre-existin illnesses. Then repeal the porovision that allows the parents of older children to keep them on their health insurance longer. Then allow insurers to go back to making recissions to existing policy holders. Then repeal the provision that rolls back the donut hole for seniors. Then repeal the provision that says no more than 20% of each premium dollar can go to profit and salaries.

That last one is really important. We all want health insurers to use way more than 20% of each health insurance dollar for their own profits and the profit of their billion-dollar corporations.

Don't deal with this as a lump. Openly roll back coverage for now-covered children. And don't ignore that CBO estimate that repeal will add billions to the deficit.

Go for it! We all want to health care industry, drug providers, insurance companies and their rich CEOs to get even richer while the middle class is uninsured. Jump right in and add those billions.

And one more thing. Don't vote at all until you yourself have given up the Cadillac partially-government-subsidized health insurance coverage of you and your family (even in retirement). Cut yourself back to the present plan for ordinary Wal-Mart employees and the employees of other companies like that, and we will know you are truly serious about fairness in health care.

Posted by: tinyjab40 | February 1, 2011 5:24 PM | Report abuse

@fhcgsps: And, as for over-reaching...honey, the big Dick Cheney and Bush were the most over-reaching officials in the history of this country...Cheney ignored the constitution and expanded the power of the presidency.

Why is it that when backed into a corner, rather than admitting guilt or responsibility for any misconduct of a Democrat, or our President, liberals invariably change the subject by repeating one or another of the numerous examples of official malfeasance by George Bush? If it was wrong for Bush or Cheney to do it, what changed and made it okay for Obama?

Case in point: as a Republican, I was outraged by the amount of deficit spending George Bush racked up over eight years ($5-Trillion, almost double what it was when he took office, or an average of about $1-Billion per day). So now, when I strenuously object to the fact that Mr. Obama has added $3.4-Trillion to the national debt in 24-months (roughly $4-Billion per day, 4 times the rate of borrowing by Mr. Bush), how does bringing up the reprehensible conduct of George Bush somehow refute my criticism of Barrack Obama? Or, if the rebuttal includes suggestions that, as a Republican opponent of Obama's reckless conduct in office, I am either a "bigot", a "racist", or a "moron" (standard fare coming from most liberals these days), how does it somehow change the fact that this President is squandering the last shreds of this nation's good credit, and threatening our economic stability?

Posted by: thomas777 | February 1, 2011 5:23 PM | Report abuse

Mitch McConnell is a cancer on Kentucy and America

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Totally agree -- he is a HUGE CANCER on his state and this country. He is an embarrassment, and a throwback to a much less civilized time in this country.

Posted by: fhcgsps | February 1, 2011 5:21 PM | Report abuse

People are truely dumber than dirt.

We have friends who are pi ssing and moaning because they can't get motrin anymore on their assanine flex plans - the dumbest benefit I have ever encountered - the most cumbersome a stupid plan devised in my lifetime -- anyway -- they are upset about loosing 50 censt in tax benefits but they are apparently not concerned about their kids getting kicked off their insurance or being denied coverage because they have health issues.

You righties cheering this should take a second and think about what you are fighting for. You are fighting for less coverage for yourslef. You are fighting for higher premiums. You are fighting for medical bankruptcy. You are fighting for your insurance compnay to be legally allowed to sentance you to death. (they did this to my Aunt by denying treatment until her cancer was too far advanced to treat) You are fighting for kids being denied health insurance. You are arguing for returning to the single worst and most expensive health system in the civilized world.

I also want to know how, if the insurance company lackey turtle head is the minority leader he can force a vote when the Democrats could not force votes with a majority? Is it sinmply because Democrats will not abuse the rules?

And what meaning does it have when the bill this insurance lobby repeal bill is attached to fails because of the poison pill of repeal? They need to start again? So mcconnel is again just posing and wasting time no matter how you want to slice it.

The gop is worse than useless. If they were useless they would be doing no harm. Today they are bent on destroying the nation just so long as reptilian minrotiy leader mcconnel achieves his number one priority of cutting the knees out from under the President Of the United States.

What scum bags.

Posted by: John1263 | February 1, 2011 5:20 PM | Report abuse

With the recent ruling by the federal court in Florida, the President Obama administration is in contempt of court by continuing to move forward with implementing Obamacare. We know PO is already in contempt of "We the People", so this contempt of court should not surprise anyone.
Surely, the Senate would recognize this contempt of law and "We the People" by this administration and vote to repeal Obamacare.

Posted by: rteske | February 1, 2011 5:19 PM | Report abuse

I hope he succeeds!! Then the American people will get to see a repeat of previous conservative health care legislation -- NOTHING DONE, NOTHING DONE, NOTHING DONE. And our health care system will eventually destroy us because costs go up and the conservatives DO NOTHING TO stop that. Best care in the world? Right - for the wealthy.

Posted by: Freethotlib | February 1, 2011 5:17 PM | Report abuse

Our country and the world are unstable and unsettled. One of our two major political parties now has as its # 1 goal -- not fixing our economy, not keeping our country secure, but getting President Obama out of office. That's an accurate paraphrase from Senator McConnell, Senate Minority Leader. I interpret his words as a 'dogwhistle' calling for Republicans to covertly sabotage our economy and then blame the 'double dip' on Obama. Of course, the Republicans don't control the Senate, so they have to try meat-ax government cost reductions and hope that those fly in the Senate with a few Democrat votes and that Obama won't veto them. The House majority Republicans can be counted on to all robotically vote the way that their glorious leader tells them to.

Posted by: chuck8 | February 1, 2011 5:13 PM | Report abuse

Reading the Civil War History..

One of the reasons they lost was because of tactics like this used on their own government.

Despite the fact they had some very competent people.

Posted by: pdq5 | February 1, 2011 5:13 PM | Report abuse

Republicans want the poor and middle class to fend for themselves, targets for the scam artists of the health insurance industry. Not for one minute do I think the Republicans have a single citizen's best interests at heart. No, they want to repeal the bill because their pocket stuffing lobbyists are paying them well to do so. After all, the taxpayers subsidize their cushy health insurance, to the tune of millions of dollars a year. What do they care? It's survival of the fittest propaganda at it's best!

Posted by: Chagasman | February 1, 2011 5:11 PM | Report abuse

Where are the people for whose benefit the President faught to reform health care? Judges legislating from the bench and power-giddy senators are crowding the playing field, once again. Where are the rest of the people who have a stake in the provision of cost efficient health care services? Where are the people who have spoken in November? Not all of us were against the health care reform. So speak, people, or we will find ourselves with health insurance bills that keep on rising and a national economy that keeps sinking under more and more debt. But .... private business, big and small, will prosper. As they have when tax-payer money was used to bail them out: banks [they are private business]; corporations [they are private business]; real estate businesses [they are private]; and sundry other small businesses through various tax credits. Is't it time for us, the people, to object to the chicanery going on and insist on amending the healt reform bill already passed, not ending it? Doctors have been ordering more tests than necessary and crowding their schedules. Insurance companies have been raising their annual premiums for the past decade [not just over the past 2 years], while paying doctors pittances for required procedures and limiting the lists of covered procedures. And, regrettably, too many among us believe that while we are personally entitled to health ensurance funded by our employer, or to cadilac pension schemes and fully funded Medicare, others are not. The others, apparently, need to throw themselves on the mercy of the "market forces. -- As if, somehow, health of all people in a nation and its economy are not intertwined. We want to reduce our national debt, right? We need to reign in the current system of providing health services, and we need to look seriously at benefits. We need to stop playing games with both our health and our economy, but this cannot happen on the backs of the less "endowed".

Posted by: nitellub | February 1, 2011 5:10 PM | Report abuse

wow charko!

that's quite a claim -- Obama is causing unrest in Egypt? Where did you read that? Are you a special envoy to the Middle East or something?

So interesting...could you please share your source?

Also, ditto on the earlier lagging indicator comment. Read an econ book.

Posted by: fhcgsps | February 1, 2011 5:09 PM | Report abuse

Mitch McConnell is a cancer on Kentucy and America

Posted by: LDTRPT25 | February 1, 2011 5:09 PM | Report abuse

Finally, politicians who say what they're going to do once elected, then go about doing it.

Drive a stake into the heart of this horrific Bill and make Nancy wail.

Posted by: NoDonkey | February 1, 2011 5:07 PM | Report abuse

Our current medical system is great. I go into the ER three times a year and get thousands of dollars of free coverage that Republicans pick. I get free meds too. Why does anyone desire to change such a wonderful system. I was in the ER last month and the bill came to $35,000.00. and its all free.

Posted by: Maddogg | February 1, 2011 5:05 PM | Report abuse

McConnell..whee are the damn jobs you promised??

Posted by: pdq5 | February 1, 2011 5:05 PM | Report abuse

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I'm just an older guy, maybe not as smart as Jacquie here but haven't we lost quite a few jobs since Obama took power?


Dear josephpturner:

You should pick up an econ book: jobs are a lagging indicator...so the jobs that were shed when Obama took office are the ripple affect of the Bush administration's tactics...nice job...and nice try on the slam. If you're going to slam, though...at least be informed.

Posted by: fhcgsps | February 1, 2011 5:04 PM | Report abuse

Not only has Obama caused record breaking unemployment and job loss in America along with greatly increasing burdensome and costly regulations upon businesses.

Obama is now causing unrest, confusion, poverty in Egypt and other Middle East-North African countries.

Just like the other democrat President with the Peanut-Brain this President is going to give over several countries to radical Islam....

WAY TO GO BARRY!!! You've really brought peace and love to the world!!

Hey Barry!! Can you be anymore incompetent!! something tells me you can!!

Posted by: charko825 | February 1, 2011 5:04 PM | Report abuse

He can't force ANYthing. Even if Traitor Joe and some other DINOs joined him, the remaining Dems could threaten a filibuster and that would be that. Silly headline.

Posted by: dolph924 | February 1, 2011 5:03 PM | Report abuse

I wonder, when he forces yet another vote on this, is Sen. McConnel going to give up the health insurance provided to him as a member of Congress? Health coverage funded by taxpayers, some of whom can't afford coverage for themselves under the status quo.

I would also like to ask that question of the two Federal judges who have ruled against the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act?

Posted by: laSerenissima2003 | February 1, 2011 5:03 PM | Report abuse

So if Democrats are so convinced it will not pass, why not put it to a vote? Obama could veto it if it did pass, so what's your risk? Of course, if you'd rather spend months discussing a dog loser of an issue that you already took credit for, by all means be my guest.

Posted by: INTJ | February 1, 2011 5:02 PM | Report abuse

I see what the republics are doing as similar to a dog chasing a car - the car stops and the dog stands there wondering what to do next. Repeal the Healthcare legislation! Then maybe the media will actually go to work and find out where republics have actually taken the Country not that they didn't already know this after 8-years of Bush and their type of leadership. The President is still dealing with an economy that puts us on the brink of another depression and the media still deal with these antics as if its a game and nobody is really affected. Grow up guys and stop spreading mis-information and untruths. Someone needs to be the "grown up" here and start exhibiting some journalistic prowness - Inform the public rather than trying to game the system for the most headlines and lead stories. You don't even come close to be competitive - turn on the evening news and all three major news stations first three stories are identical. You're falling over yourselves for nothing the public has already been dumbed down - few people realize how much noise an empty wagon really makes. The only good that can come from any of this is when its repealed - you will also have family and friends impacted and it will too late because this type legislation has little in seeing the light of day for another 40-years and the "HAVES" will have already inherited the earth (that 2% who already makes the rules for the other 98%)and you would have learned by that time that you are not a part of that 2%! I don't anticipate a great many of you will join the rest of us because you won't be able to deal with your newly found status and your collegues that remain will not know how to report on your demise.

Posted by: mcgeenate | February 1, 2011 5:02 PM | Report abuse

Our country and the world are unstable and unsettled. One of our two major political parties now has as its # 1 goal -- not fixing our economy, not keeping our country secure, but getting President Obama out of office. That's an accurate paraphrase from Senator McConnell, Senate Minority Leader. I interpret his words as a 'dogwhistle' calling for Republicans to covertly sabotage our economy and then blame the 'double dip' on Obama. Of course, the Republicans don't control the Senate, so they have to try meat-ax government cost reductions and hope that those fly in the Senate with a few Democrat votes and that Obama won't veto them. The House majority Republicans can be counted on to all robotically vote the way that their glorious leader tells them to.

Posted by: chuck8 | February 1, 2011 5:01 PM | Report abuse

tgmichigan, believe me most of us are sick of the S.O.B. but Drugball and Faux News told these idiots Obama was going to take their shotguns and coon dogs and they immediately got upset and did not want to hear anything else.

Posted by: SWAMPYPD | February 1, 2011 5:01 PM | Report abuse

Ohioan wrote: The #1 Issue is skyrocketing costs. So Democrats added 30 Million more people on top of the already outrageous costs.... this is totally irresponsible..."

Bythe way, following up on my previous repsonse to your post, I have family in Ohio and they are just as poorly educated and uniformed as you are. It must be something in the water, but it certainly helps explain why the economy in Ohio has failed and thousands of adults are fighting over part time jobs delivering pizzas and flipping burgers. Too many people barely made it out of high school and haven't equiped themselves with education and skills to survive in a global economy.

The days when you can earn a comfortable middle-class living with a highschool diploma are gone. But you got one thing right: the government shouldn't have to solve your problems cause by your lack of initiative.

So I hope you get what you asked for (repeal of healthcare, government out of your lives, etc.) You're on your own. Now go find a job that offers a health plan because it's the only way you're going to get that coverage when the republicans are done.

Posted by: RufusPlimpton | February 1, 2011 5:01 PM | Report abuse

What about JOBS? First chance McConnell gets to amend a bill, it's non-germane. And it's an amendment that will explode the deficit! What's next, an amendment to restrict women's right to choose like HR 3? We know where the Republican's priorities are: lapdogs of their corporate masters and pandering to the Dittoheads.

This brought to you by the Republican Party, the political wing of News Corp.

Posted by: dpc2003 | February 1, 2011 5:00 PM | Report abuse

Obamacare is not a word. It’s a surrogate used by people with a lack of an effective argument.

When Senator Graham uses Obamacare in a statement, ask him what that means exactly, and then ask him to substantiate his claims.

Posted by: jimfive | February 1, 2011 5:00 PM | Report abuse

I wonder if the fine people of Ohio and Kentucky are proud of their representatives Boehner and McConnell? They have voted against every form of helping those that aren't rich. They have voted against health care, unemployment, civil rights, social security, jobs, etc. etc. etc. Hark, they do really care about you when it comes time to get your votes.

Posted by: pgmichigan | February 1, 2011 4:51 PM | Report abuse

PGMICHIGAN,

Most of the fine people of kentucky and ohio are under-educated and easily manipulated -- which is how these yokels got elected in the first place. If the fine people of kentucky and ohio read a newspaper, listened to the nightly news and bothered to become informed, boehner would be managing a tavern and mcconnell would be chasing ambulances or mucking stalls somewhere in lexington...or living with his father-in-law in taiwan.

Posted by: fhcgsps | February 1, 2011 4:59 PM | Report abuse

The first three notes/responses immediately following this article say all that needs to be said, as the Repubs/Dems of the old-aged federal legislatures walk around mumbling, with one hand in a pocket--feeling around for their cojones (while they're joined in the hunt by Gingrich).

Posted by: marc85 | February 1, 2011 4:59 PM | Report abuse

I have yet to read an honest posting by any supporter of Obamacare. The message is clear: we want unlimited lifetime health-care for everyone, no matter what it costs, and we don't care where you get the money to pay for it.

What is most disturbing about these grandiose and self-indulgent proponents of this particular strain of totalitarianism, is that the real-world attempt to make good on such an entitlement will erase any prospect of actually fixing the severely dysfunctional health-care system we already have, while accelerating the rush to national bankruptcy being engineered by our President.

In fact, if ordinary citizens were properly motivated (ie:were required to take responsibility for their own health-care costs), an overwhelming percentage of what we currently spend (as a nation) could be eliminated. There is no other country in the world which makes it quite so easy for the majority of it's citizens to maintain their good health, simply by taking a few relatively inexpensive measures (like regular exercise, and annual checkups), and by not indulging in a handful of other extremely deleterious behaviors (like over-eating and smoking).

A recent study reported that over 30% of Americans are clinically obese:

•An obese person will have an average of $8,315 in medical bills a year in 2018 compared with $5,855 for an adult at a healthy weight. That's a difference of $2,460.

•If the percentage of obese adults doesn't change but stays at the current rate of 34%, then excess weight will cost the nation about $198 billion by 2018.

I would ask any proponent of Obamacare why I should be asked to help pay for the higher lifetime costs for people who choose to indulge in this obviously life-threatening and costly behavior? And given that it is politically incorrect to hold any overweight person responsible for their condition, what incentive is there in Obamacare for them to take steps to change?

More to the point: if any liberal is actually willing to admit that there is a limit to the medical resources we can guarantee to anyone, how do we insure that those who do take responsibility for protecting their own good-health, do not find themselves standing in line behind those who don't?

The only way to reconcile the insatiable and selfish demands of individual human beings is by nurturing and protecting free-markets. That is the only economic paradigm that has ever worked historically, just as state-sponsored altruism has never worked.

Justice depends upon the preservation of choices, fairly accessible to all. The moral conceits and totalitarian principles embraced by Obamacare will guarantee it's extinction.

Posted by: thomas777 | February 1, 2011 4:56 PM | Report abuse

jacquie1 just wrote: "I didn't see a pick up in jobs until President Obama came into power."
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I'm just an older guy, maybe not as smart as Jacquie here but haven't we lost quite a few jobs since Obama took power?

Posted by: josephpturner | February 1, 2011 4:55 PM | Report abuse

Instead of focusing on ending the lives of his people McConnell needs to work to create jobs and increase wages for the people of Kentucky.

Posted by: Maddogg | February 1, 2011 4:55 PM | Report abuse

Where's the jobs? Haven't heard a word from these hypocrites since they were re-elected into power. They lied to the people and once again they fell for it. Campaign for job creation,never even attempted to try. They are in power and right away start taking stuff away from the average American. Big business,pharma,healthcare industry gave them their marching orders and like robots they follow them. Seems no one learned the MO of the Republicans in 2000-2008. Fight their foolish unpaid wars,get screwed by war mongers who keep them going for their war-profiteer friends,and above all,do NOTHING for average Americans at the expense of corporate America.

Posted by: walkman1956 | February 1, 2011 4:53 PM | Report abuse

McConnell has a plan, {BIGGER TAX CUTS FOR THE INSURANCE COMPANIES} Larger "KICK-BACKS" for the "PARTY".

Posted by: SWAMPYPD | February 1, 2011 4:52 PM | Report abuse

With a supreme court ruling the bill unconstitutional, it will be interesting to see of the Obama admin is going to ignore a federal court order....we may be witnessing Watergate all over again.

Posted by: NO-bama | February 1, 2011 3:05 PM | Report abuse

NO-bama, do you even know what Watergate was about? If you're not interested in the fact, at least watch the movie for the abridged version of the story.

And, as for over-reaching...honey, the big Dick Cheney and Bush were the most over-reaching officials in the history of this country...Cheney ignored the constitution and expanded the power of the presidency. So before you accuse Obama of over-reaching, review your facts...instead of pulling a classic ultra-conservative tactic like rewriting them and repeating often enough that people stop questioning them.

Posted by: fhcgsps | February 1, 2011 4:52 PM | Report abuse

"...a state like CA that can't even keep the lights on in the summer. Then turn around and say we can't use coal to produce that power, they need, but it good that we all pay more for power.

Posted by: tateofp

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INsipid duck, The power problem in CA started with ENRON f***ing with their power suppliers. A bunch of neo-cons trading energy on the backs of California's citizens. Go figure.

Posted by: fmamstyle | February 1, 2011 4:52 PM | Report abuse

C'mon on, Senate Democrats. Take an up or down vote on repeal. What are you afraid of? If the health care plan is so great, there's no reason for you to be afraid of supporting it. The voters deserve to know where you stand.

Posted by: Chippewa | February 1, 2011 4:52 PM | Report abuse

It seems to me that Mc Connell learned the art of Getting things done via amendmant attachements from the Reid Inepts and now that the shoe is on the other foot the Dimis want to only discuss JOBS... are they SERIUOS? they ignored the real needfs of the country for TWO years .. passed a Disaster of a HC bill via Subterfuges and Higher Costs that promised on top of huhre Deficits.. and now they are faced with yet another Stake in their Black Hearts and WHINE>>> WHINE>> WHINE!!!

Posted by: redhawk2 | February 1, 2011 4:51 PM | Report abuse

I wonder if the fine people of Ohio and Kentucky are proud of their representatives Boehner and McConnell? They have voted against every form of helping those that aren't rich. They have voted against health care, unemployment, civil rights, social security, jobs, etc. etc. etc. Hark, they do really care about you when it comes time to get your votes.

Posted by: pgmichigan | February 1, 2011 4:51 PM | Report abuse

I see Sen. Turbin is going to hold a hearing on Obamacare's "constitutionality". Should maybe this have been done before "We Have To Pass It To Find Out What's In It"?
Some Dimwit questions:
-Why did TheOne on the campaign trail pillar Hillary's plan which included the individual mandate. I think he alluded to the mandate was maybe "unconstitutional" and saying things like if the Feds could force feed this there would be no stopping them(something like making the homeless buy a house). Is this another great moment in Dimwit history of "being AGAINST it before he was FOR it(Kerryspeak for you Dimwits).
-- TheOne went before the nation and declared Obamacare WAS NOT a tax. His legal eagles are now arguing the case for Obamacare on the premise that it's constitutionally sound because it IS a tax. This sounds rather Palinesque doesn't it?
-- You Dimwits are whining and moaning about McConnell using legislative manuvers to repeal the cluster_uck known as Obamacare. Where were you Dimwits when TheOne/Reid/Pelosi used every legislative trick known to man including but not limited to Cornhusker Kickbacks/Louisiana Purchases/Using 10 years of TAXES but only 6 years of benefits to try to hoodwink Dimwits into believing it would DECREASE the deficit and running the clock until Christmas Eve to even pass this clunker. It's not quite the gift that keeps on giving is it.
-- I think TheOne's shellacking continues with the Vinson ruling.

Posted by: bobcatbuzz | February 1, 2011 4:50 PM | Report abuse

ArbeeIII just wrote: "Why your 24 year old can't get coverage on your policy? THEY CAN'T AND WON'T."
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How about this: I don't want to buy coverage to put 24 year old children on my policy. That would cost more money. Plus, Mr. ArbeeIII, I don't have any 24 year kids and don't ever expect to have any that age again. Why is it crazy to allow people to buy coverage they need and not buy coverage that they don't need?

Posted by: josephpturner | February 1, 2011 4:49 PM | Report abuse

You ARE required in Virginia and other states to purchase auto insurance and if you do not the state can fine you. In many states cops stop you and demand you show proof of insurance or get fined or summons to court! Second if you wanted to rent a car you would have to buy insurance. The only way around it is to not have a car. So, the opponents of healthcare say well you don't have to own a car. Ok, so when you get critically ill, you can just die in your bed...because you don't have to buy healthcare and the rest of us who did buy it shouldn't have to pay the freight because you were too stupid to get any, so ok...you supported the Republicans maybe you should go croak as one. I do not understand these people who want a corporation to make their healthcare decisions all based on a market that they cannot control and you can't vote them out. I can at least vote out the government. The healthcare reform has not killed jobs, it has helped create them. Where were all those jobs under the Republicans? I didn't see a pick up in jobs until President Obama came into power. The scariest part of being an American today is the reverence for STUPIDITY.

Posted by: jacquie1 | February 1, 2011 4:49 PM | Report abuse

Just for the record; I noticed that EXCON has been posting the erroneous sta that 75% of Americans want obama care; that is incorrect; here are the real documented stats, 39% want repeal; 36% want some changes to the system and 25% like obama care. Guess who likes it.
He is lib/prog and does what they do best; twists the numbers to suit his agenda. I shoot straight.[pun intended]

Posted by: Nobama11 | February 1, 2011 4:49 PM | Report abuse

If the Dems really want to stop this, they should attach it to a repeal of farm welfare.

Posted by: Garak | February 1, 2011 4:49 PM | Report abuse

Multimillionaire McConnell has been bought and paid for by the insurance and energy lobbyists ever since he was elected to the Senate. If he wants to make government smaller and have less influence over our lives why doesn't reject his and his dependent's (FREE, PAID FOR BY THE GOV'T) health insurance?

And, while he's at it: Why not call for the elimination of the FAA? We don't need federal employees acting like traffic cops of the airways. Let's eliminate the FDA, too. Who needs to inspect the quality of the food we eat or the drugs we take. Let's do away with the Dept. of Transportation. What business does the federal government have in building and maintaining a federal highway system? Let's do away with the Dept. of the Interior. REPUBLICAN president Teddy Roosevelt must've been on 'wacky-backy' when he started the national park system.

I find it ironic that McConnell and his cronies had control of the Presidency and Congress under King George ll for a few years, yet they changed nothing they now seem to have all sorts of heartburn over. What a bunch of hypocritical liars. They have nothing constructive to offer in the place of what they say they dislike. All they can do is spread lies, distortions and fear.

I just wish the Democrats would collectively "grow a pair" and call the Republican bluff. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to see that the Republican 'house of cards' couldn't withstand a concerted and very public scrutiny and challenge of and to their policies.

Oh, wait! Rocket scientist. Do away with NASA! It's not provided us with anything but a way to waste money. Besides, everyone knows that the moon landings were a government scam and were actually filmed at the George C. Marshall Space Flight Center, in Huntsville, Alabama.

Posted by: klwhite1 | February 1, 2011 4:49 PM | Report abuse

As Democrat, I honestly hope the Republicans are able to repeal the whole bill just before the 2012 elections.I will enjoy watching them lose their two year advantage in the House. Democrats will be in control of all three branches for a long, long time.

Posted by: jp1943 | February 1, 2011 4:49 PM | Report abuse

It's a poor health care bill, but better than the status quo before it was passed. It needs lots of cleaning up, the removal of the 1099 nonsense, and other improvements.

I am waiting to hear how the Republicans (We WILL create jobs!) wish to improve it. Oh? They don't want to improve it? Things were just great when 30 million more Americans had no coverage at all? How is that better? For whom is it better? How much did the insurance companies and pharmaceutical companies contribute to get the Republicans elected?

Posted by: mmmapache | February 1, 2011 4:47 PM | Report abuse

Multimillionaire McConnell has been bought and paid for by the insurance and energy lobbyists ever since he was elected to the Senate. If he wants to make government smaller and have less influence over our lives why doesn't reject his and his dependent's (FREE, PAID FOR BY THE GOV'T) health insurance?

And, while he's at it: Why not call for the elimination of the FAA? We don't need federal employees acting like traffic cops of the airways. Let's eliminate the FDA, too. Who needs to inspect the quality of the food we eat or the drugs we take. Let's do away with the Dept. of Transportation. What business does the federal government have in building and maintaining a federal highway system? Let's do away with the Dept. of the Interior. REPUBLICAN president Teddy Roosevelt must've been on 'wacky-backy' when he started the national park system.

I find it ironic that McConnell and his cronies had control of the Presidency and Congress under King George ll for a few years, yet they changed nothing they now seem to have all sorts of heartburn over. What a bunch of hypocritical liars. They have nothing constructive to offer in the place of what they say they dislike. All they can do is spread lies, distortions and fear.

I just wish the Democrats would collectively "grow a pair" and call the Republican bluff. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to see that the Republican 'house of cards' couldn't withstand a concerted and very public scrutiny and challenge of and to their policies.

Oh, wait! Rocket scientist. Do away with NASA! It's not provided us with anything but a way to waste money. Besides, everyone knows that the moon landings were a government scam and were actually filmed at the George C. Marshall Space Flight Center, in Huntsville, Alabama.

Posted by: klwhite1 | February 1, 2011 4:47 PM | Report abuse

It's a poor health care bill, but better than the status quo before it was passed. It needs lots of cleaning up, the removal of the 1099 nonsense, and other improvements.

I am waiting to hear how the Republicans (We WILL create jobs!) wish to improve it. Oh? They don't want to improve it? Things were just great when 30 million more Americans had no coverage at all? How is that better? For whom is it better? How much did the insurance companies and pharmaceutical companies contribute to get the Republicans elected?

Posted by: mmmapache | February 1, 2011 4:45 PM | Report abuse

Better go to a vote. Obamaramacare is a massive legislative overreach and for the next election, you BET voters need a recorded vote.
If the Democrats try to muzzle reality with points of order, then all of them will be fingered as "ride the bomb to the ground" zealots.
Up or down, or all down, Democrats? Your call.

Posted by: daskinner | February 1, 2011 4:44 PM | Report abuse

Ohioan wrote: The #1 Issue is skyrocketing costs. So Democrats added 30 Million more people on top of the already outrageous costs.... this is totally irresponsible..."

Ohioan, will you please, for the love of God go study a little before you run your mouth? Your post proves that you don't understand the basic economics of insurance.

The healthcare law is complicated. That's partly because insurance is complicated on a national scale. But the fundamentals of insurance are simple: the larger the pool of insured, the more actuarially predictable the incident of accident and illness. That creates predictability of claims expenses and improves insurance companies' ability to price policies by spreading costs across a larger insured population. By moving the uninsured into the system and out of the emergency rooms, the bill helps to eliminate hidden costs that are shifted from the un-insured onto the insured. It gets more complicated from there, but those are the insurance 101 fundamentals.

Posted by: RufusPlimpton | February 1, 2011 4:44 PM | Report abuse

Federal mandates are unconstituional.......

Popular State plans like Mitt Romney's in Mass........are legal because State's have the that power.........but not at the Federal level.

Mitt's right let each US State create their own unique State plan, if the residents of that state want one, that's the right way to do it......

Smart = Mitt Romney 2012.......lets stop farting around folks......

Posted by: allenridge | February 1, 2011 4:43 PM | Report abuse

Before there is a vote to repeal, before the Republicans just decide to do away with the various provisions of a large and unwieldy bill, why don't they come up with a compromise bill, a bill that doesn't involve tax credits.

Can the "Pubs" explain to their followers, among other items, why health insurance is being canceled for no particular reason, why premiums are increasing for no particular reason, why coverage is being denied after paying premiums on time for years? Why your 24 year old can't get coverage on your policy? THEY CAN'T AND WON'T.

Finally before any of the 535 on Capitol Hill tell me how to deal with my health insurance they, all 535 must give up the finest free health care that my tax dollars can buy. They don't have a right to tell me how to handle my health dollars unless they are in the same program, concerned on a daily basis as to how I may have to pay for any health problems that my insurance refuses to cover.

Posted by: ArbeeIII | February 1, 2011 4:41 PM | Report abuse

I am really at a loss about the Republican leadership. Besides more for the rich, what are they for? Don't they realize that the rich got that way by providing a middle class opportunity for the rest, and the consumption that followed and makes the economy run. These guys are not traditional Republicans, like Ike, even like Nixon, who appreciated the average people out there. The crybaby who came from the bottom of the pile he is too comfy now and could care less about the lesser ones. The Cantor one, he's more interested in the welfare of Israel (he's now moving the aid package to Israel from the foreign aid column in the state department to the sacrosant Pentagon budget) than he cares about the average American Joe. And of course, the new speaker of the house, who find it quite casual to dispense contribution checks from the tobacco lobby, to his republican cohorts, right in the hall of congress.
Do these people have ANY ideas for our Country????

Posted by: likovid | February 1, 2011 4:40 PM | Report abuse

I would really like to ask the citizens of Kentucky, particularly the middle and lower class, what has Frogface ever done for your benefit? You folks supporting him and the Republicans is like a chicken supporting Colonel Sanders.

Posted by: wrw01011 | February 1, 2011 4:40 PM | Report abuse

Since you lib/dem/progs are railing about the TEA PARTY and it's finances, does that mean Obama is going to return and refuse all that big money from Wall street,the unions and the middle and far east? Just askin.

Posted by: Nobama11 | February 1, 2011 4:39 PM | Report abuse

I don't care if the senate votes on health care repeal, it's democracy. What we have left of it anyway.

I suspect when it is all done and out of the Supreme Court, the majority decision with be that the Mandate is unconstitutional, but it is severable from the bill.

Posted by: yarbrougharts | February 1, 2011 4:39 PM | Report abuse

mikem1:
"By your logic, we should abolish public education entirely - not everybody has kids - why should they pay for public schools? Abolish them all."

Like most liberals, you completely miss the point. I wasn't questioning dental schools; I was questioning why others should be forced to pay for her health insurance while she goes to dental school.

Your analogy to 'abolishing education' misses the mark widely. A more appropriate analogy would be, following your logic, that taxpayers should be forced to buy everyone a car so they can get to school.

Posted by: dbw1 | February 1, 2011 4:18 PM | Report abuse

First, I'm not a liberal

Second, you misundersood my point - health care is a social program - just like public education and social security and medicare. If we decide social programs are inappropriate then we should understand the consequences.

Posted by: mikem1 | February 1, 2011 4:38 PM | Report abuse

Mitch McConnell may look like a toad, but for corporate lobbyists in DC he is a living, breathing embodiment of their wildest wet-dream. The man has absolutely no scruples and his vote is always for sale.

The same might be said of many, many other politicians in Washington -- especially in the GOP -- but even by the standards of DC, McConnell has been one of the Kings of the Quid Pro Quo.

It's also not surprising that McConnell would renege on a verbal agreement on procedure with Reid at the first opportunity.

Posted by: JPRS | February 1, 2011 4:38 PM | Report abuse

Peloozi said we had to pass Obamacare to see what was in it.
Now we see it, we don't want it.
It's not that hard to understand.

Posted by: HawkSprings | February 1, 2011 4:36 PM | Report abuse

I would be in favor of repealing ACA ** IF ** at the same time legislation was passed to the effect that hospitals were NO LONGER required to provide emergency health care to anyone who walked in the door of ER THAT WERE NOT COVERED BY INSURANCE. Those without would be allowed to bleed to death, or suffer whatever affliction they had.

Posted by: kashe | February 1, 2011 4:36 PM | Report abuse

I am disgusted with the tea baggers and the republicans.

The healthcare bill was far from perfect, but it was a step in the right direction.

Already, my neighbor's 20 year old son (a part time student, also working part time) is covered until she's 26.

Soon, my self employed daughter, whose treatment for a chronic form of leukemia costs approximately $5,000 a MONTH (of which her lousy coverage pays only half), will finally be able to get a better plan that she can afford. That has been nonexistent due to her preexisting condition.

Do the Republicans REALLY want things like they have been?

If so, I propose that if Congress does away with the individual mandate, they make sure that:

1-Anyone without coverage has to pay their medical bills out of their own pockets even in the event they are in a terrible accident and their hospital bills are huge.

2-Anyone without coverage who develops a serious, life threatening disease, like my adult daughter, should have to WAIT for at least 6 months before being able to join an insurance plan, and in the meantime, there should be a 6 month waiting period for insurance paid treatment. Sure... do treat them, but make them pay 100% of the first year's treatments.

If they suddenly need healthcare (catastrophic or otherwise) they will then experience what hundreds of thousands of Americans have had happen to them in the past because they could not afford to keep their insurance (due to job loss, illness, high cost, etc.)

I think this is fair and necessary without a mandate. After all, to oppose a mandate simply panders to those who have NEVER supported measures intended for the common good of society at large, such as schools and universities, libraries, roads and freeways, bridges, harbors, clean water systems, sewer systems, airports, public parks, museums, and so on. These are just a few of the good–and necessary–things that EVERYONE'S taxes contribute to.
Remember this: always be careful of what you ask for. I may well not turn out the way you'd like.

Posted by: onesharpmama | February 1, 2011 4:36 PM | Report abuse

YES! ... I am pleased to see that at least 15 Members of Congress can show that they have a small bit of integrity left in their souls; The others that did not opt out of coverage are the hypocrites to the very core of their being. Let's take John McCain the Senator from Arizona. He's the one, when asked late last year how many homes he owen, he didn't know. The Reporter who asked the question politely informed this boob that he owned seven. That's 7 more than those who struggle for years living in a small one bedroom flat and saving every penny they can for years could ever comprehend owning. And he's just one of many on the
hill who are Millionaires. John Boehner (The Big Bonehead) \probably is wondering how to invest all the money he's going to save at the expense of the Taxpayers during his reign.

This seated House of Congress is the most shameful of all since the being formed by our Founding Fathers; The Republicans who managed to get re-elected only got their by using fear tactics. If anyone thinks otherwise they're only fooling themselves. They blew into town on the promise that they could do better than their opponents. Again, if you believed them then your and Idiot! Anyone who thought either party could fix things better than the other, to be blunt, is Stupid! And if I can make you feel even more stupid you also fell under their spell that they could accomplish this in two years. Your \just the kind of Voter that every Politician dreams of getting their Vote. Snake Oil Salesman had more integrity in business.

If you've got an ounce of Integrity down in the very core of your being you'll forgo the remote control tonight and send of a letter to your Representative in Congress and demand that they opt out of this plan until they are able to come up with a plan that adequately covers you qnd your loved ones should you find your turned upside down by one of life's
curveballs. Godspeed to you and yours!

Posted by: DenverCOSteve | February 1, 2011 4:36 PM | Report abuse

YES! ... I am pleased to see that at least 15 Members of Congress can show that they have a small bit of integrity left in their souls; The others that did not opt out of coverage are the hypocrites to the very core of their being. Let's take John McCain the Senator from Arizona. He's the one, when asked late last year how many homes he owen, he didn't know. The Reporter who asked the question politely informed this boob that he owned seven. That's 7 more than those who struggle for years living in a small one bedroom flat and saving every penny they can for years could ever comprehend owning. And he's just one of many on the
hill who are Millionaires. John Boehner (The Big Bonehead) \probably is wondering how to invest all the money he's going to save at the expense of the Taxpayers during his reign.

This seated House of Congress is the most shameful of all since the being formed by our Founding Fathers; The Republicans who managed to get re-elected only got their by using fear tactics. If anyone thinks otherwise they're only fooling themselves. They blew into town on the promise that they could do better than their opponents. Again, if you believed them then your and Idiot! Anyone who thought either party could fix things better than the other, to be blunt, is Stupid! And if I can make you feel even more stupid you also fell under their spell that they could accomplish this in two years. Your \just the kind of Voter that every Politician dreams of getting their Vote. Snake Oil Salesman had more integrity in business.

If you've got an ounce of Integrity down in the very core of your being you'll forgo the remote control tonight and send of a letter to your Representative in Congress and demand that they opt out of this plan until they are able to come up with a plan that adequately covers you qnd your loved ones should you find your turned upside down by one of life's
curveballs. Godspeed to you and yours!

Posted by: DenverCOSteve | February 1, 2011 4:36 PM | Report abuse

YES! ... I am pleased to see that at least 15 Members of Congress can show that they have a small bit of integrity left in their souls; The others that did not opt out of coverage are the hypocrites to the very core of their being. Let's take John McCain the Senator from Arizona. He's the one, when asked late last year how many homes he owen, he didn't know. The Reporter who asked the question politely informed this boob that he owned seven. That's 7 more than those who struggle for years living in a small one bedroom flat and saving every penny they can for years could ever comprehend owning. And he's just one of many on the
hill who are Millionaires. John Boehner (The Big Bonehead) \probably is wondering how to invest all the money he's going to save at the expense of the Taxpayers during his reign.

This seated House of Congress is the most shameful of all since the being formed by our Founding Fathers; The Republicans who managed to get re-elected only got their by using fear tactics. If anyone thinks otherwise they're only fooling themselves. They blew into town on the promise that they could do better than their opponents. Again, if you believed them then your and Idiot! Anyone who thought either party could fix things better than the other, to be blunt, is Stupid! And if I can make you feel even more stupid you also fell under their spell that they could accomplish this in two years. Your \just the kind of Voter that every Politician dreams of getting their Vote. Snake Oil Salesman had more integrity in business.

If you've got an ounce of Integrity down in the very core of your being you'll forgo the remote control tonight and send of a letter to your Representative in Congress and demand that they opt out of this plan until they are able to come up with a plan that adequately covers you qnd your loved ones should you find your turned upside down by one of life's
curveballs. Godspeed to you and yours!

Posted by: DenverCOSteve | February 1, 2011 4:36 PM | Report abuse

YES! ... I am pleased to see that at least 15 Members of Congress can show that they have a small bit of integrity left in their souls; The others that did not opt out of coverage are the hypocrites to the very core of their being. Let's take John McCain the Senator from Arizona. He's the one, when asked late last year how many homes he owen, he didn't know. The Reporter who asked the question politely informed this boob that he owned seven. That's 7 more than those who struggle for years living in a small one bedroom flat and saving every penny they can for years could ever comprehend owning. And he's just one of many on the
hill who are Millionaires. John Boehner (The Big Bonehead) \probably is wondering how to invest all the money he's going to save at the expense of the Taxpayers during his reign.

This seated House of Congress is the most shameful of all since the being formed by our Founding Fathers; The Republicans who managed to get re-elected only got their by using fear tactics. If anyone thinks otherwise they're only fooling themselves. They blew into town on the promise that they could do better than their opponents. Again, if you believed them then your and Idiot! Anyone who thought either party could fix things better than the other, to be blunt, is Stupid! And if I can make you feel even more stupid you also fell under their spell that they could accomplish this in two years. Your \just the kind of Voter that every Politician dreams of getting their Vote. Snake Oil Salesman had more integrity in business.

If you've got an ounce of Integrity down in the very core of your being you'll forgo the remote control tonight and send of a letter to your Representative in Congress and demand that they opt out of this plan until they are able to come up with a plan that adequately covers you qnd your loved ones should you find your turned upside down by one of life's
curveballs. Godspeed to you and yours!

Posted by: DenverCOSteve | February 1, 2011 4:36 PM | Report abuse

YES! ... I am pleased to see that at least 15 Members of Congress can show that they have a small bit of integrity left in their souls; The others that did not opt out of coverage are the hypocrites to the very core of their being. Let's take John McCain the Senator from Arizona. He's the one, when asked late last year how many homes he owen, he didn't know. The Reporter who asked the question politely informed this boob that he owned seven. That's 7 more than those who struggle for years living in a small one bedroom flat and saving every penny they can for years could ever comprehend owning. And he's just one of many on the
hill who are Millionaires. John Boehner (The Big Bonehead) \probably is wondering how to invest all the money he's going to save at the expense of the Taxpayers during his reign.

This seated House of Congress is the most shameful of all since the being formed by our Founding Fathers; The Republicans who managed to get re-elected only got their by using fear tactics. If anyone thinks otherwise they're only fooling themselves. They blew into town on the promise that they could do better than their opponents. Again, if you believed them then your and Idiot! Anyone who thought either party could fix things better than the other, to be blunt, is Stupid! And if I can make you feel even more stupid you also fell under their spell that they could accomplish this in two years. Your \just the kind of Voter that every Politician dreams of getting their Vote. Snake Oil Salesman had more integrity in business.

If you've got an ounce of Integrity down in the very core of your being you'll forgo the remote control tonight and send of a letter to your Representative in Congress and demand that they opt out of this plan until they are able to come up with a plan that adequately covers you qnd your loved ones should you find your turned upside down by one of life's
curveballs. Godspeed to you and yours!

Posted by: DenverCOSteve | February 1, 2011 4:36 PM | Report abuse

YES! ... I am pleased to see that at least 15 Members of Congress can show that they have a small bit of integrity left in their souls; The others that did not opt out of coverage are the hypocrites to the very core of their being. Let's take John McCain the Senator from Arizona. He's the one, when asked late last year how many homes he owen, he didn't know. The Reporter who asked the question politely informed this boob that he owned seven. That's 7 more than those who struggle for years living in a small one bedroom flat and saving every penny they can for years could ever comprehend owning. And he's just one of many on the
hill who are Millionaires. John Boehner (The Big Bonehead) \probably is wondering how to invest all the money he's going to save at the expense of the Taxpayers during his reign.

This seated House of Congress is the most shameful of all since the being formed by our Founding Fathers; The Republicans who managed to get re-elected only got their by using fear tactics. If anyone thinks otherwise they're only fooling themselves. They blew into town on the promise that they could do better than their opponents. Again, if you believed them then your and Idiot! Anyone who thought either party could fix things better than the other, to be blunt, is Stupid! And if I can make you feel even more stupid you also fell under their spell that they could accomplish this in two years. Your \just the kind of Voter that every Politician dreams of getting their Vote. Snake Oil Salesman had more integrity in business.

If you've got an ounce of Integrity down in the very core of your being you'll forgo the remote control tonight and send of a letter to your Representative in Congress and demand that they opt out of this plan until they are able to come up with a plan that adequately covers you qnd your loved ones should you find your turned upside down by one of life's
curveballs. Godspeed to you and yours!

Posted by: DenverCOSteve | February 1, 2011 4:36 PM | Report abuse

YES! ... I am pleased to see that at least 15 Members of Congress can show that they have a small bit of integrity left in their souls; The others that did not opt out of coverage are the hypocrites to the very core of their being. Let's take John McCain the Senator from Arizona. He's the one, when asked late last year how many homes he owen, he didn't know. The Reporter who asked the question politely informed this boob that he owned seven. That's 7 more than those who struggle for years living in a small one bedroom flat and saving every penny they can for years could ever comprehend owning. And he's just one of many on the
hill who are Millionaires. John Boehner (The Big Bonehead) \probably is wondering how to invest all the money he's going to save at the expense of the Taxpayers during his reign.

This seated House of Congress is the most shameful of all since the being formed by our Founding Fathers; The Republicans who managed to get re-elected only got their by using fear tactics. If anyone thinks otherwise they're only fooling themselves. They blew into town on the promise that they could do better than their opponents. Again, if you believed them then your and Idiot! Anyone who thought either party could fix things better than the other, to be blunt, is Stupid! And if I can make you feel even more stupid you also fell under their spell that they could accomplish this in two years. Your \just the kind of Voter that every Politician dreams of getting their Vote. Snake Oil Salesman had more integrity in business.

If you've got an ounce of Integrity down in the very core of your being you'll forgo the remote control tonight and send of a letter to your Representative in Congress and demand that they opt out of this plan until they are able to come up with a plan that adequately covers you qnd your loved ones should you find your turned upside down by one of life's
curveballs. Godspeed to you and yours!

Posted by: DenverCOSteve | February 1, 2011 4:36 PM | Report abuse

YES! ... I am pleased to see that at least 15 Members of Congress can show that they have a small bit of integrity left in their souls; The others that did not opt out of coverage are the hypocrites to the very core of their being. Let's take John McCain the Senator from Arizona. He's the one, when asked late last year how many homes he owen, he didn't know. The Reporter who asked the question politely informed this boob that he owned seven. That's 7 more than those who struggle for years living in a small one bedroom flat and saving every penny they can for years could ever comprehend owning. And he's just one of many on the
hill who are Millionaires. John Boehner (The Big Bonehead) \probably is wondering how to invest all the money he's going to save at the expense of the Taxpayers during his reign.

This seated House of Congress is the most shameful of all since the being formed by our Founding Fathers; The Republicans who managed to get re-elected only got their by using fear tactics. If anyone thinks otherwise they're only fooling themselves. They blew into town on the promise that they could do better than their opponents. Again, if you believed them then your and Idiot! Anyone who thought either party could fix things better than the other, to be blunt, is Stupid! And if I can make you feel even more stupid you also fell under their spell that they could accomplish this in two years. Your \just the kind of Voter that every Politician dreams of getting their Vote. Snake Oil Salesman had more integrity in business.

If you've got an ounce of Integrity down in the very core of your being you'll forgo the remote control tonight and send of a letter to your Representative in Congress and demand that they opt out of this plan until they are able to come up with a plan that adequately covers you qnd your loved ones should you find your turned upside down by one of life's
curveballs. Godspeed to you and yours!

Posted by: DenverCOSteve | February 1, 2011 4:36 PM | Report abuse

YES! ... I am pleased to see that at least 15 Members of Congress can show that they have a small bit of integrity left in their souls; The others that did not opt out of coverage are the hypocrites to the very core of their being. Let's take John McCain the Senator from Arizona. He's the one, when asked late last year how many homes he owen, he didn't know. The Reporter who asked the question politely informed this boob that he owned seven. That's 7 more than those who struggle for years living in a small one bedroom flat and saving every penny they can for years could ever comprehend owning. And he's just one of many on the
hill who are Millionaires. John Boehner (The Big Bonehead) \probably is wondering how to invest all the money he's going to save at the expense of the Taxpayers during his reign.

This seated House of Congress is the most shameful of all since the being formed by our Founding Fathers; The Republicans who managed to get re-elected only got their by using fear tactics. If anyone thinks otherwise they're only fooling themselves. They blew into town on the promise that they could do better than their opponents. Again, if you believed them then your and Idiot! Anyone who thought either party could fix things better than the other, to be blunt, is Stupid! And if I can make you feel even more stupid you also fell under their spell that they could accomplish this in two years. Your \just the kind of Voter that every Politician dreams of getting their Vote. Snake Oil Salesman had more integrity in business.

If you've got an ounce of Integrity down in the very core of your being you'll forgo the remote control tonight and send of a letter to your Representative in Congress and demand that they opt out of this plan until they are able to come up with a plan that adequately covers you qnd your loved ones should you find your turned upside down by one of life's
curveballs. Godspeed to you and yours!

Posted by: DenverCOSteve | February 1, 2011 4:36 PM | Report abuse

YES! ... I am pleased to see that at least 15 Members of Congress can show that they have a small bit of integrity left in their souls; The others that did not opt out of coverage are the hypocrites to the very core of their being. Let's take John McCain the Senator from Arizona. He's the one, when asked late last year how many homes he owen, he didn't know. The Reporter who asked the question politely informed this boob that he owned seven. That's 7 more than those who struggle for years living in a small one bedroom flat and saving every penny they can for years could ever comprehend owning. And he's just one of many on the
hill who are Millionaires. John Boehner (The Big Bonehead) \probably is wondering how to invest all the money he's going to save at the expense of the Taxpayers during his reign.

This seated House of Congress is the most shameful of all since the being formed by our Founding Fathers; The Republicans who managed to get re-elected only got their by using fear tactics. If anyone thinks otherwise they're only fooling themselves. They blew into town on the promise that they could do better than their opponents. Again, if you believed them then your and Idiot! Anyone who thought either party could fix things better than the other, to be blunt, is Stupid! And if I can make you feel even more stupid you also fell under their spell that they could accomplish this in two years. Your \just the kind of Voter that every Politician dreams of getting their Vote. Snake Oil Salesman had more integrity in business.

If you've got an ounce of Integrity down in the very core of your being you'll forgo the remote control tonight and send of a letter to your Representative in Congress and demand that they opt out of this plan until they are able to come up with a plan that adequately covers you qnd your loved ones should you find your turned upside down by one of life's
curveballs. Godspeed to you and yours!

Posted by: DenverCOSteve | February 1, 2011 4:36 PM | Report abuse

YES! ... I am pleased to see that at least 15 Members of Congress can show that they have a small bit of integrity left in their souls; The others that did not opt out of coverage are the hypocrites to the very core of their being. Let's take John McCain the Senator from Arizona. He's the one, when asked late last year how many homes he owen, he didn't know. The Reporter who asked the question politely informed this boob that he owned seven. That's 7 more than those who struggle for years living in a small one bedroom flat and saving every penny they can for years could ever comprehend owning. And he's just one of many on the
hill who are Millionaires. John Boehner (The Big Bonehead) \probably is wondering how to invest all the money he's going to save at the expense of the Taxpayers during his reign.

This seated House of Congress is the most shameful of all since the being formed by our Founding Fathers; The Republicans who managed to get re-elected only got their by using fear tactics. If anyone thinks otherwise they're only fooling themselves. They blew into town on the promise that they could do better than their opponents. Again, if you believed them then your and Idiot! Anyone who thought either party could fix things better than the other, to be blunt, is Stupid! And if I can make you feel even more stupid you also fell under their spell that they could accomplish this in two years. Your \just the kind of Voter that every Politician dreams of getting their Vote. Snake Oil Salesman had more integrity in business.

If you've got an ounce of Integrity down in the very core of your being you'll forgo the remote control tonight and send of a letter to your Representative in Congress and demand that they opt out of this plan until they are able to come up with a plan that adequately covers you qnd your loved ones should you find your turned upside down by one of life's
curveballs. Godspeed to you and yours!

Posted by: DenverCOSteve | February 1, 2011 4:36 PM | Report abuse

YES! ... I am pleased to see that at least 15 Members of Congress can show that they have a small bit of integrity left in their souls; The others that did not opt out of coverage are the hypocrites to the very core of their being. Let's take John McCain the Senator from Arizona. He's the one, when asked late last year how many homes he owen, he didn't know. The Reporter who asked the question politely informed this boob that he owned seven. That's 7 more than those who struggle for years living in a small one bedroom flat and saving every penny they can for years could ever comprehend owning. And he's just one of many on the
hill who are Millionaires. John Boehner (The Big Bonehead) \probably is wondering how to invest all the money he's going to save at the expense of the Taxpayers during his reign.

This seated House of Congress is the most shameful of all since the being formed by our Founding Fathers; The Republicans who managed to get re-elected only got their by using fear tactics. If anyone thinks otherwise they're only fooling themselves. They blew into town on the promise that they could do better than their opponents. Again, if you believed them then your and Idiot! Anyone who thought either party could fix things better than the other, to be blunt, is Stupid! And if I can make you feel even more stupid you also fell under their spell that they could accomplish this in two years. Your \just the kind of Voter that every Politician dreams of getting their Vote. Snake Oil Salesman had more integrity in business.

If you've got an ounce of Integrity down in the very core of your being you'll forgo the remote control tonight and send of a letter to your Representative in Congress and demand that they opt out of this plan until they are able to come up with a plan that adequately covers you qnd your loved ones should you find your turned upside down by one of life's
curveballs. Godspeed to you and yours!

Posted by: DenverCOSteve | February 1, 2011 4:36 PM | Report abuse

YES! ... I am pleased to see that at least 15 Members of Congress can show that they have a small bit of integrity left in their souls; The others that did not opt out of coverage are the hypocrites to the very core of their being. Let's take John McCain the Senator from Arizona. He's the one, when asked late last year how many homes he owen, he didn't know. The Reporter who asked the question politely informed this boob that he owned seven. That's 7 more than those who struggle for years living in a small one bedroom flat and saving every penny they can for years could ever comprehend owning. And he's just one of many on the
hill who are Millionaires. John Boehner (The Big Bonehead) \probably is wondering how to invest all the money he's going to save at the expense of the Taxpayers during his reign.

This seated House of Congress is the most shameful of all since the being formed by our Founding Fathers; The Republicans who managed to get re-elected only got their by using fear tactics. If anyone thinks otherwise they're only fooling themselves. They blew into town on the promise that they could do better than their opponents. Again, if you believed them then your and Idiot! Anyone who thought either party could fix things better than the other, to be blunt, is Stupid! And if I can make you feel even more stupid you also fell under their spell that they could accomplish this in two years. Your \just the kind of Voter that every Politician dreams of getting their Vote. Snake Oil Salesman had more integrity in business.

If you've got an ounce of Integrity down in the very core of your being you'll forgo the remote control tonight and send of a letter to your Representative in Congress and demand that they opt out of this plan until they are able to come up with a plan that adequately covers you qnd your loved ones should you find your turned upside down by one of life's
curveballs. Godspeed to you and yours!

Posted by: DenverCOSteve | February 1, 2011 4:36 PM | Report abuse

YES! ... I am pleased to see that at least 15 Members of Congress can show that they have a small bit of integrity left in their souls; The others that did not opt out of coverage are the hypocrites to the very core of their being. Let's take John McCain the Senator from Arizona. He's the one, when asked late last year how many homes he owen, he didn't know. The Reporter who asked the question politely informed this boob that he owned seven. That's 7 more than those who struggle for years living in a small one bedroom flat and saving every penny they can for years could ever comprehend owning. And he's just one of many on the
hill who are Millionaires. John Boehner (The Big Bonehead) \probably is wondering how to invest all the money he's going to save at the expense of the Taxpayers during his reign.

This seated House of Congress is the most shameful of all since the being formed by our Founding Fathers; The Republicans who managed to get re-elected only got their by using fear tactics. If anyone thinks otherwise they're only fooling themselves. They blew into town on the promise that they could do better than their opponents. Again, if you believed them then your and Idiot! Anyone who thought either party could fix things better than the other, to be blunt, is Stupid! And if I can make you feel even more stupid you also fell under their spell that they could accomplish this in two years. Your \just the kind of Voter that every Politician dreams of getting their Vote. Snake Oil Salesman had more integrity in business.

If you've got an ounce of Integrity down in the very core of your being you'll forgo the remote control tonight and send of a letter to your Representative in Congress and demand that they opt out of this plan until they are able to come up with a plan that adequately covers you qnd your loved ones should you find your turned upside down by one of life's
curveballs. Godspeed to you and yours!

Posted by: DenverCOSteve | February 1, 2011 4:36 PM | Report abuse

I am disgusted with the tea baggers and the republicans.

The healthcare bill was far from perfect, but it was a step in the right direction.

Already, my neighbor's 20 year old son (a part time student, also working part time) is covered until she's 26.

Soon, my self employed daughter, whose treatment for a chronic form of leukemia costs approximately $5,000 a MONTH (of which her lousy coverage pays only half), will finally be able to get a better plan that she can afford. That has been nonexistent due to her preexisting condition.

Do the Republicans REALLY want things like they have been?

If so, I propose that if Congress does away with the individual mandate, they make sure that:

1-Anyone without coverage has to pay their medical bills out of their own pockets even in the event they are in a terrible accident and their hospital bills are huge.

2-Anyone without coverage who develops a serious, life threatening disease, like my adult daughter, should have to WAIT for at least 6 months before being able to join an insurance plan, and in the meantime, there should be a 6 month waiting period for insurance paid treatment. Sure... do treat them, but make them pay 100% of the first year's treatments.

If they suddenly need healthcare (catastrophic or otherwise) they will then experience what hundreds of thousands of Americans have had happen to them in the past because they could not afford to keep their insurance (due to job loss, illness, high cost, etc.)

I think this is fair and necessary without a mandate. After all, to oppose a mandate simply panders to those who have NEVER supported measures intended for the common good of society at large, such as schools and universities, libraries, roads and freeways, bridges, harbors, clean water systems, sewer systems, airports, public parks, museums, and so on. These are just a few of the good–and necessary–things that EVERYONE'S taxes contribute to.
Remember this: always be careful of what you ask for. I may well not turn out the way you'd like.

Posted by: onesharpmama | February 1, 2011 4:34 PM | Report abuse

YES! ... I am pleased to see that at least 15 Members of Congress can show that they have a small bit of integrity left in their souls; The others that did not opt out of coverage are the hypocrites to the very core of their being. Let's take John McCain the Senator from Arizona. He's the one, when asked late last year how many homes he owen, he didn't know. The Reporter who asked the question politely informed this boob that he owned seven. That's 7 more than those who struggle for years living in a small one bedroom flat and saving every penny they can for years could ever comprehend owning. And he's just one of many on the
hill who are Millionaires. John Boehner (The Big Bonehead) \probably is wondering how to invest all the money he's going to save at the expense of the Taxpayers during his reign.

This seated House of Congress is the most shameful of all since the being formed by our Founding Fathers; The Republicans who managed to get re-elected only got their by using fear tactics. If anyone thinks otherwise they're only fooling themselves. They blew into town on the promise that they could do better than their opponents. Again, if you believed them then your and Idiot! Anyone who thought either party could fix things better than the other, to be blunt, is Stupid! And if I can make you feel even more stupid you also fell under their spell that they could accomplish this in two years. Your \just the kind of Voter that every Politician dreams of getting their Vote. Snake Oil Salesman had more integrity in business.

If you've got an ounce of Integrity down in the very core of your being you'll forgo the remote control tonight and send of a letter to your Representative in Congress and demand that they opt out of this plan until they are able to come up with a plan that adequately covers you qnd your loved ones should you find your turned upside down by one of life's
curveballs. Godspeed to you and yours!

Posted by: DenverCOSteve | February 1, 2011 4:34 PM | Report abuse

YES! ... I am pleased to see that at least 15 Members of Congress can show that they have a small bit of integrity left in their souls; The others that did not opt out of coverage are the hypocrites to the very core of their being. Let's take John McCain the Senator from Arizona. He's the one, when asked late last year how many homes he owen, he didn't know. The Reporter who asked the question politely informed this boob that he owned seven. That's 7 more than those who struggle for years living in a small one bedroom flat and saving every penny they can for years could ever comprehend owning. And he's just one of many on the
hill who are Millionaires. John Boehner (The Big Bonehead) \probably is wondering how to invest all the money he's going to save at the expense of the Taxpayers during his reign.

This seated House of Congress is the most shameful of all since the being formed by our Founding Fathers; The Republicans who managed to get re-elected only got their by using fear tactics. If anyone thinks otherwise they're only fooling themselves. They blew into town on the promise that they could do better than their opponents. Again, if you believed them then your and Idiot! Anyone who thought either party could fix things better than the other, to be blunt, is Stupid! And if I can make you feel even more stupid you also fell under their spell that they could accomplish this in two years. Your \just the kind of Voter that every Politician dreams of getting their Vote. Snake Oil Salesman had more integrity in business.

If you've got an ounce of Integrity down in the very core of your being you'll forgo the remote control tonight and send of a letter to your Representative in Congress and demand that they opt out of this plan until they are able to come up with a plan that adequately covers you qnd your loved ones should you find your turned upside down by one of life's
curveballs. Godspeed to you and yours!

Posted by: DenverCOSteve | February 1, 2011 4:34 PM | Report abuse

The Walter Reed Scandal happened under the Bush Administration, not Obama's.
The Republicans insisted that we could not afford the GI Bill.
They insisted that we could not afford Social Security.
Under them, we had the Teapot Dome Scandal.
We had the Bonus March Scandal!
We had the Charles Forbes Scandal!
After this, will anyone trust a Republican ever again?
Clifford Spencer

Posted by: yankeefan1925 | February 1, 2011 4:32 PM | Report abuse

For you Dimwits howling about McConnell's dastardly plan of attaching repeal to the FAA bill being unfair, where were you Dimwits when TheOne/Reid/Pelosi used every conceivable trick in the legislative book and took it right up to Christmas Eve to pass this cluster_uck of a bill. Remember Nan's "We Have To Pass It To Find Out What's In It"(which ranks up there with her inane unemployment benefits are the greatest stimulator for the economy and you Dimwits rip Palin) or "The Cornhusker Kick-back or " The Louisiana Purchase". I missed you Dimwits trolling on about how "unfair" the process was back then. Or how about when TheOne was on the campaign trail pillaring Hillary for her plan having the "individual mandate" and how awful that was(something to the effect he thought it would be, heaven forbid, UNCONSTITUTIONAL) but now he's FOR it after he was AGAINST it(that's Kerry-speak for you Dimwits). Or how he LIED to the nation that Obamacare WASN'T a tax, yet his legal eagles now are arguing on legal grounds that Obamacare IS a tax. I sit on TWO union healthcare plans as a mgmt trustee. Even the consultants, lawyers and administrators of both plans can't believe what a NIGHTMARE this entire bill is. It's virtually impossible to know right from wrong in the implementation of this plan and has the trustees tied in knots and exposed to huge liabilities in trying to figure this piece of _hit legislation out. Coupled with the fact that it is "politically" administered by TheOne's highest campaign contributors,(that means unions to you Dimwits) with waivers by the droves, and it's no wonder any sane judge would declare this cluster_uck NULL and VOID. Obama had the chance to truly lead the Nation two years ago and had the Republicans in full retreat. But TheOne with Rahm let's not waste a good crisis and the Axman decided to shove it down the Repubs throats. The voting public figured out their scheme and shoved it elsewhere in November(that's shellackspeak to you Dimwits). Oh yea and subjecting ALL small businesses to that 1009 provision was a real stroke of Dimwit genius too. Or ADDING 30 million to the public dole will DECREASE the deficit which defies logic(which doesn't exist in Liberal Wonderland) who then has to pull a smoke and mirros act with the CBO such as utilizing 10 years of TAXES to just 6 years of benefits paid out to make the guess what pill is under the shell work out.

Posted by: bobcatbuzz | February 1, 2011 4:32 PM | Report abuse

This administration rammed ObamaCare down our throats, like Dictators.
ObamaCare didn't make sense while they were working on it, and it kept getting worse and worse.
The #1 Issue is skyrocketing costs. So Democrats added 30 Million more people on top of the already outrageous costs.... this is totally irresponsible and every person who worked on obamaCare committe should be fired for incompetence.
Hold them accountable for this monstrosity.

Posted by: ohioan | February 1, 2011 4:32 PM | Report abuse

enough to point out how the GOP opposed Obama's economic policies from day 1 while offering no solutions of their own, instead chasing healthcare repeal that Americans don't want (75% oppose repeal) and extending tax breaks to billionaires who send American jobs overseas.

Posted by: ExConservative | February 1, 2011 4:31 PM | Report abuse

klausdmk wrote: "the American people came forth from main street America in grass root movements of the Tea Party Express to save America."

I'm still trying to decide how I should react to the arrogance and abject stupidity of people like Klausdmk who think they speak for the "american people" and that the Tea Party is anything like a majority.

You don't speak for me. For every person who supports healthcare repeal, there's another person who opposes repeal. You're not a majority and you're not "we the people".

The tea party was a minority of the electorate who piled onto the republican bandwagon to swing elections in conservative districts. The reality is that independent voters decided the outcome of the last two elections, not the Tea Party and not conservatives or liberals, who are equally divided electoral minorities.

But the arrogant, know-nothing, factless Tea Party rabble will insist that they are "the people" because your egos require it. You're not. You're just another minority, ultra-right wing faction whose bankruptcy of ideas will eventually make you irrelevant.

Posted by: RufusPlimpton | February 1, 2011 4:31 PM | Report abuse

Oh, so ya'll think the Tea Party was this grassroots organization??? Think again...

Between the Kock Brothers millio$$$ and the health insurance company's million$$$ (funneled thru Dick Armey's lobbyist firms) the "in kind" million$$$ chipped in from FOX unNews, what you are looking at the results of hundreds of million$$$ for "community organizers" (I know, horrors), printing, buses, permits, rallies, advertisement, etc., etc...

Nothin' grassroots about it...

Oh what the left could organize with that kinda $$$...

But here's the real deal here...

The Repubs are acting like spoiled crybabies... They sat and pouted for an entire year and refused to participate in the shapin' of this bill and now...

....the crybabies want a re-do???

I mean, an entire year of pouting, obstructing and generally being AWOL and now they say they have all these good ideas...

Where???

I haven't heard one single idea from them or any of their minions... All we get is more of the same... No, sniff, pout... No, sniff, pot... No, sniff, pout...

Ya'll on the right are downright embarrassing...

Like they say, "You're either part of the problem or part of the solution... Until ya'll crybabies step forth with yer proposals then it can safely be assumed that you are on the problem side of the equation...

Bob

Posted by: bobnpvine | February 1, 2011 4:31 PM | Report abuse

Since the November elections the top priorities for Republicans have been:

1. The extension of tens or hundreds of billions of dollars in tax cuts for the richest Americans, and

2. Denial of adequate health care to tens of millions of Americans through repeal of health care reform.

This is leadership?

Posted by: esch | February 1, 2011 4:30 PM | Report abuse

enough to point out how the GOP opposed Obama's economic policies from day 1 while offering no solutions of their own, instead chasing healthcare repeal that Americans don't want (75% oppose repeal) and extending tax breaks to billionaires who send American jobs overseas.

Posted by: ExConservative | February 1, 2011 4:30 PM | Report abuse

This administration rammed ObamaCare down our throats, like Dictators.
ObamaCare didn't make sense while they were working on it, and it kept getting worse and worse.
The #1 Issue is skyrocketing costs. So Democrats added 30 Million more people on top of the already outrageous costs.... this is totally irresponsible and every person who worked on obamaCare committe should be fired for incompetence.
Hold them accountable for this monstrosity.

Posted by: ohioan | February 1, 2011 4:30 PM | Report abuse

WHERE ARE THE JOBS, MITCH?!?! QUIT CIRCLEJERKING YOUR WALLSTREET CORPORATE BENEFACTORS WITH YOUR BUDDY BOEHNER AND FIX THE ECONOMY, JACKAS$!?!?!

Posted by: mojo975 | February 1, 2011 4:29 PM | Report abuse

I am so pi**ed off at those thugs who call themselves Republicans. They are so against the health care bill, and good ole Kentucky George now wants to repeal it WITHOUT ONE WORD OF WHAT THEY WILL REPLACE IT WITH...maybe they don't want to replace it at all. Maybe they are just fine with the current system..so much for the 47 million who are denied health care because of no insurance. So much for those who are denied insurance because of PEC...come on you bas*ards, what do you believe in? Or are you so much in the pockets of the insurance companies that you will do anything to protect them.

On second thought, maybe they will go back to the drawing board and come up with a single payer,universal health care program..WHICH IS WHAT WE SHOULD HAVE DONE IN THE FIRST PLACE! But that is just a pipe dream isn't it?

Posted by: RogerNoVa | February 1, 2011 4:29 PM | Report abuse

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WHERE ARE THE JOBS, YOU RETROGRADE RIGHT WING BLOVIATORS ?!?!?!


.

Posted by: DrainYou | February 1, 2011 4:29 PM | Report abuse

Hey GOP, where's your health care replacement plan you promised?

CRICKETS!

Hey GOP, where's the job creation plan you promised?

CRICKETS!

The tables have turned and the heat is coming GOP. Be careful what you ask for!

Posted by: blackandred777 | February 1, 2011 4:29 PM | Report abuse

Oh, so ya'll think the Tea Party was this grassroots organization??? Think again...

Between the Kock Brothers millio$$$ and the health insurance company's million$$$ (funneled thru Dick Armey's lobbyist firms) the "in kind" million$$$ chipped in from FOX unNews, what you are looking at the results of hundreds of million$$$ for "community organizers" (I know, horrors), printing, buses, permits, rallies, advertisement, etc., etc...

Nothin' grassroots about it...

Oh what the left could organize with that kinda $$$...

But here's the real deal here...

The Repubs are acting like spoiled crybabies... They sat and pouted for an entire year and refused to participate in the shapin' of this bill and now...

....the crybabies want a re-do???

I mean, an entire year of pouting, obstructing and generally being AWOL and now they say they have all these good ideas...

Where???

I haven't heard one single idea from them or any of their minions... All we get is more of the same... No, sniff, pout... No, sniff, pot... No, sniff, pout...

Ya'll on the right are downright embarrassing...

Like they say, "You're either part of the problem or part of the solution... Until ya'll crybabies step forth with yer proposals then it can safely be assumed that you are on the problem side of the equation...

Bob

Posted by: bobnpvine | February 1, 2011 4:28 PM | Report abuse

While some think the bill already passed was flawed, I contend that it is almost perfect in its current form. "Perfect" is the word if the intent is to force employers to abandon group health insurance and move everyone into a federally mandated individual insurance plan that is economically designed to collapse. The result will be to force the creation of a federally funded healthcare plan that will eliminate the private sector.

The people that passed this monstrosity in the first place used every trick in the book to get the bill through, and those who claim it is good for the American public are either too dishonest or too dumb to hold elective office. The CBO numbers that "justify" the passage are based on Democrat assumptions that are as flawed as the ones that are used to justify the ice cream and beer weight loss program.

This country needs to get a truly bi-partisan bill passed, and the sooner the GOP forces it, the sooner we can begin to tackle the other problems that this president needs to tackle. But first, he has to leave his left wing ideology at the door. It is impossible to guarantee equality of outcomes in the best of societies. That is, unless you can guarantee equality of effort, integrity and ingenuity..........

NO MO'BAMA......and people should be dumping the likes of Anthony Weiner, Chris Van Holland, Claire McKaskill, Bernie Sanders, et al........

Posted by: buggerianpaisley1 | February 1, 2011 4:28 PM | Report abuse

"Here's why the opt-out is a bad idea.

Let's say I live in South Carolina, and it opts out of the health care system. My little girl gets sick and is diagnosed with Leukemia. I'm faced with potential medical bills of $500,000 and I know I can't pay it.

I have three choices, 1) do nothing and let her die, 2) have the treatment and then file bankruptcy (which means the citizens pay because the losses will be passed on to them), or 3) move to a state that insures everyone. I move, of course.

This is great for South Carolina, it gets rid of a very sick kid that could cost the state money, but it's bad for the citizens of the state that is more compassionate. They will be swamped with citizens with high medical costs moving there from the less compassionate states.

Posted by: Trakker | February 1, 2011 2:30 PM | Report abuse"

Ah, but you're forgetting that the $500,000 you'd allegedly pay is mostly the result of GOVERNMENT REGULATION, frivolous tort lawsuits, malpractice insurance premiums, and hospitals required to treat illegal aliens and others without insurance. Sorry to burst your bubble there, pal, but it's generally government meddling that causes trouble in the marketplace. Yet your solution is, wait for it, MORE GOVERNMENT! Great..

Posted by: linguist64 | February 1, 2011 4:27 PM | Report abuse

klausdmk ... great Third Reich name! Give 'em hell, Harry Reid! He wants to let the children get their futile health care vote "out of their system." Nothing like lacerating someone with just the right phrase. Yes, it is good to let the children have their tantrum sometimes before sending them off to bed. Oh, and the term is "health care." Health care, not Obamacare. Just like right-wingers prefer "Republican" to "Nazi."

Posted by: Mountaineer87 | February 1, 2011 4:27 PM | Report abuse

Isn't it a little foolish to equate MANDATORY health insurance with car insurance. No one who doesn't own a car is required to carry car insurance so why should that not apply to health insurance. If you want health insurance you can obtain it privately or through an employer if he provides it.

Posted by: rmilitello | February 1, 2011 4:27 PM | Report abuse

What a sad group of people. Mitch Mc Connell and most all senators and congress persons who are pushing for repeal of this law have not had to worry about healthcare for years now since they all became millionaires on the backs of the american people. If they repeal health care for the american people, then it should be tied their govenment sponsored health care and theirs should go away as well. It seems as though our goverment and political parties can't get it together either. Maybe we need to be protesting in the streets as they are doing in Egypt, and Tunisia. We have the same issues Government just doesn't listen!!!

Posted by: jprice6 | February 1, 2011 4:26 PM | Report abuse

klausdmk ... great Third Reich name! Give 'em hell, Harry Reid! He wants to let the children get their futile health care vote "out of their system." Nothing like lacerating someone with just the right phrase. Yes, it is good to let the children have their tantrum sometimes before sending them off to bed. Oh, and the term is "health care." Health care, not Obamacare. Just like right-wingers prefer "Republican" to "Nazi."

Posted by: Mountaineer87 | February 1, 2011 4:26 PM | Report abuse

"Of course, I can only image if you are like most liberals, if a solution does not involve higher taxes and a larger federal bureaucracy, it can't be a solution at all, right?"
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

There does indeed need to be major changes if we are to insure 30 million of the currently uninsured. That would involve "giving people" or "giving the system" money to purchase insurance.

That could mean the individual mandate, so the young and healthy could balance the costs of the sick.

That could mean higher taxes.

Or involve some tax credits or tax-free savings accounts.

and likely require a combination of the three to hit that 30 million number.

The republicans don't have an answer for insuring 30 million, they admit it, it is not their goal. Last year when they did present their health care plan, the CBO estimated it would help out 8 million.

That is the biggest divide between the two parties. How badly do you want to make a dent in the roles of the uninsured.

Posted by: yarbrougharts | February 1, 2011 4:25 PM | Report abuse

Remember when the Republicans promised us job creation as priority #1? Yeah, me too. I feel so used.

Posted by: ExConservative | February 1, 2011 4:08 PM | Report abuse

You should feel used! Anything that's ever been done to benefit social change and support the people of this country in the past 80 years has been done during a democratic administration. Google any change of social significance -- dems.

All the trouble we are living through now goes back to Ronald Regean -- who brought all the Wall Streeters into Washington. Now, Wall Street runs our government...and that friends, is why the rich get richer and the poor get poorer in this country.

The only thing that's trickled down is the mess.

If you're interested in taking the government back, you can't depend on a Republican. They are simply out for themselves...and voters have very short memories. I don't know how many more times we have to go through this before American voters learn their lesson. Hopefully not much longer.

Nothing the Republican regime proposes benefits anyone except big business and the Republican party.

Posted by: fhcgsps | February 1, 2011 4:24 PM | Report abuse

What a sad group of people. Mitch Mc Connell and most all senators and congress persons who are pushing for repeal of this law have not had to worry about healthcare for years now since they all became millionaires on the backs of the american people. If they repeal health care for the american people, then it should be tied their govenment sponsored health care and theirs should go away as well. It seems as though our goverment and political parties can't get it together either. Maybe we need to be protesting in the streets as they are doing in Egypt, and Tunisia. We have the same issues Government just doesn't listen!!!

Posted by: jprice6 | February 1, 2011 4:23 PM | Report abuse

YES! ... I am pleased to see that at least 15 Members of Congress can show that they have a small bit of integrity left in their souls; The others that did not opt out of coverage are the hypocrites to the very core of their being. Let's take John McCain the Senator from Arizona. He's the one, when asked late last year how many homes he owen, he didn't know. The Reporter who asked the question politely informed this boob that he owned seven. That's 7 more than those who struggle for years living in a small one bedroom flat and saving every penny they can for years could ever comprehend owning. And he's just one of many on the
hill who are Millionaires. John Boehner (The Big Bonehead) \probably is wondering how to invest all the money he's going to save at the expense of the Taxpayers during his reign.

This seated House of Congress is the most shameful of all since the being formed by our Founding Fathers; The Republicans who managed to get re-elected only got their by using fear tactics. If anyone thinks otherwise they're only fooling themselves. They blew into town on the promise that they could do better than their opponents. Again, if you believed them then your and Idiot! Anyone who thought either party could fix things better than the other, to be blunt, is Stupid! And if I can make you feel even more stupid you also fell under their spell that they could accomplish this in two years. Your \just the kind of Voter that every Politician dreams of getting their Vote. Snake Oil Salesman had more integrity in business.

If you've got an ounce of Integrity down in the very core of your being you'll forgo the remote control tonight and send of a letter to your Representative in Congress and demand that they opt out of this plan until they are able to come up with a plan that adequately covers you qnd your loved ones should you find your turned upside down by one of life's
curveballs. Godspeed to you and yours!

Posted by: DenverCOSteve | February 1, 2011 4:22 PM | Report abuse

How about that... those with the best health-care taxpayer money can pay for voting to deny 30 million Americans health-care. I have already contacted Ripley's Believe it or Not.

Posted by: WmLaney | February 1, 2011 4:22 PM | Report abuse

YAWN......


I've got news for the extremist Republican party:

Now that you have some actual power again (the House) you won't be able to get away with spending all of your time throwing verbal bombs at the Dems, going golfing and then hitting the DC cocktail circuit at night every day.


You either CREATE JOBS or you will be gone in 2012 so fast that your heads will spin.

Chop chop Repugs!


You've got two years!


Time's a wastin'!

.

Posted by: DrainYou | February 1, 2011 4:22 PM | Report abuse

Republicans would like to repeal LIFE for your children as opposed to pre-existing conditions. Why was there ever pre-existing conditions for Children? The Stench of inhumanity from the Right is sickening. As if all on the right no matter what income level has the money in the bank to pay for a heart transplant for a child. You are thoughtless, and cruel human beings and should really put down your bibles! Just cling to your guns.

Posted by: minco_007 | February 1, 2011 4:22 PM | Report abuse

Health care is easy enough to oppose, when you and you're family fully covered (and have been for most of your life). So, to H311 with the unwashed masses.

Posted by: PracticalIndependent | February 1, 2011 4:22 PM | Report abuse

What a sad group of people. Mitch Mc Connell and most all senators and congress persons who are pushing for repeal of this law have not had to worry about healthcare for years now since they all became millionaires on the backs of the American people. If they repeal health care for the american people, then it should be tied their govenment sponsored health care and theirs should go away as well. It seems as though our goverment and political parties can't get it together either. Maybe we need to be protesting in the streets as they are doing in Egypt, and Tunisia. We have the same issues
Government just doesn't listen!!!

Posted by: jprice6 | February 1, 2011 4:21 PM | Report abuse

If Only they were as diligent, determined and dogmatic about putting America back to work...let's get America working so that we can be the strong nation that we use to be before the corporate takeover happened!

Posted by: RoxaneJohnson | February 1, 2011 4:21 PM | Report abuse

I can imagine the attack ads now.

"{Republican Senator) voted to keep kids off their parents' health insurance, to allow insurance companies to deny hardworking Americans coverage for pre-existing conditions, and to keep millions uninsured."

Posted by: j762 | February 1, 2011 4:20 PM | Report abuse

People gushing over this wonderful health care law should be reminded of the breathtaking overreach of the US Government in invoking heretofore unheard-of powers being assumed in the commerce clause. Basically, if the Obama Administration is arguing that healthcare is so important, it should be able to REQUIRE citizens to purchase it, or fine them if they do not. A certain US Senator in 2008 argued that using the commerce clause in this way could be used to force people to buy a car in order to help the automobile industry. After all, if the government can force you to buy one product, why not another? Ironically, the US Senator in question? He now resides at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue.

Posted by: linguist64 | February 1, 2011 4:19 PM | Report abuse

Why lethally inject the patient until you see if she needs surgery for some ailments, medicine for the other?

Posted by: HERMITTALKER | February 1, 2011 4:19 PM | Report abuse

What a sad group of people. Mitch Mc Connell and most all senators and congress persons who are pushing for repeal of this law have not had to worry about healthcare for years now since they all became millionaires on the backs of the american people. If they repeal health care for the american people, then it should be tied their govenment sponsored health care and theirs should go away as well. It seems as though our goverment and political parties can't get it together either. Maybe we need to be protesting in the streets as they are doing in Egypt, and Tunisia. We have the same issues Government just doesn't listen!!!

Posted by: jprice6 | February 1, 2011 4:19 PM | Report abuse

mikem1:
"By your logic, we should abolish public education entirely - not everybody has kids - why should they pay for public schools? Abolish them all."

Like most liberals, you completely miss the point. I wasn't questioning dental schools; I was questioning why others should be forced to pay for her health insurance while she goes to dental school.

Your analogy to 'abolishing education' misses the mark widely. A more appropriate analogy would be, following your logic, that taxpayers should be forced to buy everyone a car so they can get to school.

Posted by: dbw1 | February 1, 2011 4:18 PM | Report abuse

single-payer single-payer

Posted by: HardyW | February 1, 2011 4:17 PM | Report abuse

Who is this Harry Reid to deny an outright upfront vote by the Senate on whether to repeal the PPACA, to instead make the issue be attached to another bill? I'll tell you my perspective, the man is a gutless, narcissistic, insensitive egomaniac who will abuse and misuse his position as Leader of the Senate to just force his limited and misguided, if not assaultive agenda on the majority of American citizens. And not that I am a fan of Senator McConnell to step up and try to lead in place of his corrupt and immoral colleague from Nevada, we will see probably as many shenanigans and disruptive agendas from McConnell and his ilk should they take over the Senate in 2012.

The question to ask you readers, is this: why do you vote back the same failed representation every 2-6 years who just keep the same failed leaders of these parts of the Legislature? Pelosi and Reid are still the leaders of the Democrats in the House and Senate, after what was obviously the opinion of the people in November? It truly is party first, public dead last in their agenda.

I hope the PPACA dies by the Judiciary, just to rub it in the faces of all the remaining Democrats still in office as of 2011 that they are clueless and irresponsible in crafting this pathetic legislation they shamefully told us was wonderful and will save money and lives. Total and complete male bull excrement!!!

Posted by: Joelhassfam4 | February 1, 2011 4:16 PM | Report abuse

Yeah, I don't think that there is such federal law, but I honestly never checked. I was just trying to make a point - the bottom line is that everyone who drives is required to have car insurance.

If there were no federal law requiring everyone to have health insurance, but if everyone was somehow insured one way or another (city laws, county laws, magic or whatever), I'd gladly take that. But that's not happening either.

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sharedgum:
"Also on the ballot - repealing the need to have valid car insurance when operating a motor vehicle. I mean, if you think about it, it really makes no sense to keep this in place, and I don't know how I haven't rebelled earlier against this tyrannical and socialist propaganda."

Feel free to point us to the FEDERAL law that mandates auto insurance be carried by car drivers.

I love it when liberals try to compare their version of 'health care reform' to auto insurance....it makes it too easy to pick the ACA apart.

Posted by: sharedgum | February 1, 2011 4:16 PM | Report abuse

It pains the American people that Democrat partisan rancor to force the Obama bill through U.S. Congress causes so much dissention and divided America. None the less, the American people came forth from main street America in grass root movements of the Tea Party Express to save America.

The Tea Party protesters did not demand Obama’s resignation but their protests changed the U.S. Congress from Democrat Party Obama line to a Republican leadership. In less than a month the House Republicans have changed White House “run away” government authority to conform to the will of the American voters and empowered the people to turn away from an economic and morale depression.

The Obama administration has been an economic disaster for the American people and we see no indication of change in liberal social leftist Democrat politics. Read news reports for facts and White House responses to events and it will become clear we need a Republican President for 2012 and a Republican Senate.

Posted by: klausdmk | February 1, 2011 4:15 PM | Report abuse

losthorizon10, I think you are a little mixed up with this idiotic question: Where are the jobs, republicans?

It seems to me that this question should be addressed to Obama and his cohort. Haven't they been in control of congress for at least 4 years and Obama for 2 years? The pubs have been in the majority in the house only for a month.

As the old song goes "Put The Blame On Mame,Boys"

Posted by: rmilitello | February 1, 2011 4:15 PM | Report abuse

Jobs are the biggest priority for the new Republicans going to the Hill!

What, they want to re-argue the fights of the last two years? You mean they aren't interested in jobs for normal people are only interested in cynically re-fighting idealogical battles?

...shocker...

Posted by: scott032 | February 1, 2011 4:14 PM | Report abuse

stonewall71,

I recall several recent polls where the perecentage of Americans in this country that want the health care plan repealed and not replaced to be less than 20.

Where's the GOP plan, Stonewall?

I recall a GOP platform calling for job creation.

Where's the GOP plan for jobs, Stonewall?

Posted by: hateisnotafamilyvalue | February 1, 2011 4:14 PM | Report abuse

It pains the American people that Democrat partisan rancor to force the Obama bill through U.S. Congress causes so much dissention and divided America. None the less, the American people came forth from main street America in grass root movements of the Tea Party Express to save America.

The Tea Party protesters did not demand Obama’s resignation but their protests changed the U.S. Congress from Democrat Party Obama line to a Republican leadership. In less than a month the House Republicans have changed White House “run away” government authority to conform to the will of the American voters and empowered the people to turn away from an economic and morale depression.

The Obama administration has been an economic disaster for the American people and we see no indication of change in liberal social leftist Democrat politics. Read news reports for facts and White House responses to events and it will become clear we need a Republican President for 2012 and a Republican Senate.

Posted by: klausdmk | February 1, 2011 4:14 PM | Report abuse

It pains the American people that Democrat partisan rancor to force the Obama bill through U.S. Congress causes so much dissention and divided America. None the less, the American people came forth from main street America in grass root movements of the Tea Party Express to save America.

The Tea Party protesters did not demand Obama’s resignation but their protests changed the U.S. Congress from Democrat Party Obama line to a Republican leadership. In less than a month the House Republicans have changed White House “run away” government authority to conform to the will of the American voters and empowered the people to turn away from an economic and morale depression.

The Obama administration has been an economic disaster for the American people and we see no indication of change in liberal social leftist Democrat politics. Read news reports for facts and White House responses to events and it will become clear we need a Republican President for 2012 and a Republican Senate.

Posted by: klausdmk | February 1, 2011 4:12 PM | Report abuse

thomgr:

If all you claim to hear from the GOP is "silence", perhaps you should remove your partisan earplugs....

Of course, I can only image if you are like most liberals, if a solution does not involve higher taxes and a larger federal bureaucracy, it can't be a solution at all, right?

Posted by: dbw1 | February 1, 2011 4:11 PM | Report abuse

When will the American people finally see through the charlatan GOP? McConnell is a person who enjoys government subsidized health care, but want to deny health care to others. The GOP are kowtowing to their corporate masters; every single thing the Republican party does is clearly in the interest of wealthy people and corporations. A blind man could see it with a cane.

Posted by: Historian1960 | February 1, 2011 4:10 PM | Report abuse

It would be fascinating, would it not be so tragic, to see the enormous outrage if repeal actually happened. To have these benefits denied by the GOP, with nothing to replace them, would make the streets of Cairo look tame.

Posted by: polysciprof | February 1, 2011 4:10 PM | Report abuse

So is McConnell going to force congress to give up it's life time health and pension benefits?

Posted by: knjincvc | February 1, 2011 3:52 PM | Report abuse

Totally agree, knjincv!!!! McConnell, Boehner and the rest of the gang are anti everything they get -- courtesy of the American taxpayer!

Why American voters fail to see the irony of that is beyond me!

Thank you for your comment!!!!!

Posted by: fhcgsps | February 1, 2011 4:09 PM | Report abuse

Remember when the Republicans promised us job creation as priority #1? Yeah, me too. I feel so used.

Posted by: ExConservative | February 1, 2011 4:08 PM | Report abuse

In '94, it was called HillaryCare by the rethugs, today - ObamaCare. What I don't understand is what is RethugCare?

Can't Democrats define RethugCare?

It's forfeit all your life's savings and die.

Posted by: dc1020008 | February 1, 2011 4:08 PM | Report abuse

The day Yertle comes up with an original idea that doesn't involve destroying something already in place, say, introducing job vs tax legislation, his head will explode.

Posted by: Koko3 | February 1, 2011 4:08 PM | Report abuse

sun52shine seems the unrepentant, unapologetic, throw-back liberal from another era. Confused about the reasons for Obama's election, he's taken liberal campaign mentality and characterizes Americans as wanting Obamacare. We don't. It's really that simple. The legislature passed last year is budget busting entitlement expansion that has no chance of paying for itself, and will put bureaucrats between patient and physician. It vastly expands federal intrusion into our lives and economy, advancing the nanny state and limiting self determination.

Posted by: ecrutle | February 1, 2011 4:07 PM | Report abuse

Bad mistake. I'd like to see them vote on each plank separately. That way they could vote to again take older children off the parent's insurance polices, to let insurance companies go back to "pre-existing illnesses" and recission, to require seniors to return the $250 which was the first step in doing away with the donut hole, and most of all, they would get to vote to again allow rich insurance companies and their CEOs to use more than 20% percent of each premium dollar for profits and salaries. After all, we all want to see more of each premium going to the rich corportions and bailed out CEOs and less going to those who paid the money and are now ill.

Vote on each issue separately, and let us know where you stand on each issue.

Posted by: tinyjab40 | February 1, 2011 4:07 PM | Report abuse

Are Republicans FOR anything? Do they have any constructive ideas?

* Let's go back to a system that allowed insurance companies to terminate policies of people who paid their premiums all along but then had the misfortune to get sick and require medical treatment.

* Let's go back to a system where children born with medical problems or citizens with pre-existing conditions are made to suffer without treatment and/or go bankrupt.

* Let's go back to a system where those without medical insurance go to emergency rooms for free treatment, screw up the delivery of health care to those with true emergencies, and pass the bill on to others through higher medical costs and insurance premiums.

The health care overhaul bill is far from perfect, but I'd be far more receptive to ideas from Republicans on how to improve the bill while maintaining its better features. Just scrapping the whole bill is throwing out the baby with the bathwater.

Posted by: wireknob | February 1, 2011 4:06 PM | Report abuse

McConnell is playing politics instead of doing what he and his bogus party was elected to do in November, create jobs.
They want to take everything away from the poor and middleclass and keep everything for themselves. Mr. McConnell is a traitor to hard working Americans who are trying to make ends meet. Let them repeal Healthcare and we will take their Heathcare away. We elect them to do a job, not give themselves perks.

Posted by: sumo1 | February 1, 2011 4:06 PM | Report abuse

McConnell is playing politics instead of doing what he and his bogus party was elected to do in November, create jobs.
They want to take everything away from the poor and middleclass and keep everything for themselves. Mr. McConnell is a traitor to hard working Americans who are trying to make ends meet. Let them repeal Healthcare and we will take their Heathcare away. We elect them to do a job, not give themselves perks.

Posted by: sumo1 | February 1, 2011 4:05 PM | Report abuse

McConnell is playing politics instead of doing what he and his bogus party was elected to do in November, create jobs.
They want to take everything away from the poor and middleclass and keep everything for themselves. Mr. McConnell is a traitor to hard working Americans who are trying to make ends meet. Let them repeal Healthcare and we will take their Heathcare away. We elect them to do a job, not give themselves perks.

Posted by: sumo1 | February 1, 2011 4:05 PM | Report abuse

McConnell is playing politics instead of doing what he and his bogus party was elected to do in November, create jobs.
They want to take everything away from the poor and middleclass and keep everything for themselves. Mr. McConnell is a traitor to hard working Americans who are trying to make ends meet. Let them repeal Healthcare and we will take their Heathcare away. We elect them to do a job, not give themselves perks.

Posted by: sumo1 | February 1, 2011 4:05 PM | Report abuse

McConnell is playing politics instead of doing what he and his bogus party was elected to do in November, create jobs.
They want to take everything away from the poor and middleclass and keep everything for themselves. Mr. McConnell is a traitor to hard working Americans who are trying to make ends meet. Let them repeal Healthcare and we will take their Heathcare away. We elect them to do a job, not give themselves perks.

Posted by: sumo1 | February 1, 2011 4:05 PM | Report abuse

Where ARE the jobs?

Right-wingers across both houses forgot their campaign promises quickly - less than a week.

The right-wing agenda today is the same it was in 2001 - undo everything successful the Democrats have done recently.

Regressive policies always fail the society. Failed societies look like Egypt.

Look long and hard at the middle east, right-wingers. Egypt, Tunisia, Yemen, Jordan... You have been driving this country toward anarchy for 30 years.

Posted by: PoliticalPrisoner2012 | February 1, 2011 4:05 PM | Report abuse

If you like being jobless thank an illegal alien. If you like insurance rates being sky high thank an illegal alien that crossed the border to drop a baby and stick the U.S. tax payer with the bill. Then receive more tax payer money to support the illegal alien and the baby that was just had here. If you are tired of independence....move! If you love the U.S.A. then you will support the removal of the no plan that anybody has read B.S. healthcare "reform". I really loved the open door broadcasted on CSPAN debate we had. Oh gee my memory must not be short enough to remember Obummer saying that it would all be open for the citizens to see. It's all a farce and a distraction. Just like Egypt this rogue govt. wants to control all of us. Healthcare is the first step. Now guns are reaching the media since Obama planted the Gifford shooter in AZ. Nice that his racist muslim buddy Bloomberg went and performed some silly stunt like the undercover sting at the gun show. Coincidence? Not even close it's all part of a grand scheme by global U.N. leaders. They are trying to make the U.S. broke and torn because they know that once the free people fall the rest are already live bait!!

Posted by: racistmexicans | February 1, 2011 4:04 PM | Report abuse

Screwjob23 says: "Where are the jobs, Barry? Where? Miserable failure Obama"

Scewjob, I'm assuming that your attacks on the president imply that you believe that the government should be hands off of our lives and our economies (and if not you personally, then plenty of Americans do belive that.) That means a new era of personal responsibility.

So in that new era, you're responsible for finding your own job. What are you doing to educate yourself and prepare yourself for highly technical growth segments of the economy? How many businesses have you started?

You can't have it both ways. You can't blame the President for not creating tens of millions of jobs in the first 18 months of his presidency during the worst recession in a century while, at the same time, saying that government should be hands off from the economy. You can't hold a chief executive responsible for performance, and then deny them the timeline, tools, and authority needed to do their job.

To many americans, and quite possibly you yourself, hold irrational positions. If you want personal responsibility, fine. Shut your hole and go out and find your own job. If you really believe in a fully free market, quit expecting the government to solve your problems.


Posted by: RufusPlimpton | February 1, 2011 4:04 PM | Report abuse

Republicsn want to protect the insurance companies, the drug manufacturersm, the doctors, and the hospitals that gouge the public.

Medical Costs continue to skyrocket. Where is the Republican concern about thast?

Because of the ever rising costs, Our health care is going to become unaffordable for most people in a few years. We will then, most of us, be forced to make do with much less health care than we receive now.

Lying about Obama is what I expect from Republicans.

Posted by: samsara15 | February 1, 2011 4:04 PM | Report abuse

"Five South Dakota lawmakers have introduced legislation that would require any adult 21 or older to buy a firearm “sufficient to provide for their ordinary self-defense.”
The legislation requires a individual mandate, just like the Health Care Bill." What a great idea! The sarcasm is sublime! Sad most Dems are to stupid to know they are being made fun of! Hey Bozo where are all those shovel ready jobs you promised? What a joke a clown and fools that think he is god! Democrats almost like people just to stupid to be anything more than they are...sheep baaa baaa

Posted by: Loxinabox | February 1, 2011 4:03 PM | Report abuse

If you like being jobless thank an illegal alien. If you insurance rates being sky high thank an illegal alien that crossed the border to drop a baby and stick the U.S. tax payer with the bill. Then receive more tax payer money to support the illegal alien and the baby that was just had here. If you are tired of independence....move! If you love the U.S.A. then you will support the removal of the no plan that anybody has read B.S. healthcare "reform". I really loved the open door broadcasted on CSPAN debate we had. Oh gee my memory must not be short enough to remember Obummer saying that it would all be open for the citizens to see. It's all a farce and a distraction. Just like Egypt this rogue govt. wants to control all of us. Healthcare is the first step. Now guns are reaching the media since Obama planted the Gifford shooter in AZ. Nice that his racist muslim buddy Bloomberg went and performed some silly stunt like the undercover sting at the gun show. Coincidence? Not even close it's all part of a grand scheme by global U.N. leaders. They are trying to make the U.S. broke and torn because they know that once the free people fall the rest are already live bait!!

Posted by: racistmexicans | February 1, 2011 4:03 PM | Report abuse

When are the Senators and Representatives going to opt out of their Government run health care program?
G.O.P. response: silence

Who pays when the uninsured get ER care?
G.O.P. response: silence

What are uninsured going to do if they don't get health care?
G.O.P. response: silence

What about the Arizona death panels?
G.O.P. response: silence

Posted by: thomgr | February 1, 2011 4:03 PM | Report abuse

These republican clowns would rather cut your safety net than provide you with jobs.

Posted by: duke5 | February 1, 2011 4:02 PM | Report abuse

Why doesn't this turtle-faced, corporate-owned phony get to work and create some jobs, instead of wasting taxpayer's money trying to repeal a law that most Americans want, and which extended health care insurance to 30 million new citizens?

Where are the jobs, republicans?

McConnell knows this won't go anywhere. It's just the usual GOP attempt to distract the rubes while they steal more money from the middle class, and continue their efforts to channel the wealth in the Social Security system to their Wall Street buddies.

Posted by: losthorizon10 | February 1, 2011 4:00 PM | Report abuse


3) if you can't afford it, please explain why someone else should be forced to pay the expenses so your daughter can attend graduate school?

Posted by: dbw1 | February 1, 2011 3:53 PM | Report abuse

===

By your logic, we should abolish public education entirely - not everybody has kids - why should they pay for public schools? Abolish them all.

I wonder what the literacy rates are like in countries that have no public education.

Posted by: mikem1 | February 1, 2011 4:00 PM | Report abuse

Anyone wonder why the conservatives are fighting so hard to repeal this law? They know once all the provisions are in place this plan is going to actually do what it intended, provide nearly universal healthcare. ACA is essentially a Republican healthcare bill passed by Democrats. The Democrats will get credit just as they did for Social Security and Medicare. The demographics for the GOP are heading south and if they dont repeal this now they will never get rid of it and we will be a giant step closer to real healthcare. The GOP is frightened of the political implications for them, not of the bill itself.

Posted by: Norcal | February 1, 2011 4:00 PM | Report abuse

Bad politicians make bad law based on bad data.

Ignoring the qualified experts at the Congressional Budget Offi8ce, Boehner's staff made up the data they are using in a back room one weekend. At least that is what John-boy claimed a couple weeks ago.

That makes for one bad politician, two if you include the McConnell clown.

Why are the right-wing political organizations in this country basing everything we have on lies and twisted data? Thirty years of it and everything keeps going wrong. It is insanity to keep doing the same thing over and over and over expecting a different result.

John Boehner, Mitch McConnell, Eric Cantor, Michelle Bachmann. The United States deserves better than you and your destructive policies. Reaganomics failed and it is time you admitted it.

Posted by: PoliticalPrisoner2012 | February 1, 2011 3:59 PM | Report abuse

It looks like Grayson was right; the Rethugs solution to the health care system is if you're sick; die quickly. This will certainly reduce health care costs. It's sad that this is the agenda the right will tackle versus the jobs needed in this country.

Posted by: TruCherryHillNJ | February 1, 2011 3:59 PM | Report abuse

well i see the republicans making the very smae mistake the dems did over the last 2 years. instaed of jobs, which is what they were elected to do, they are ignoring what the people put them there for and focasing on healthcare. remeber what happened? in 2012 they will be back in the wilderness. what a waste of time. social security and medicare went through the same thing with the GOP. and they lost that to. this law will stand. you can all dream about the supremes but it is covered under the comerce caluse and if they rule against it you can tear up the comerce clause. they will not do it.

Posted by: donincardona | February 1, 2011 3:59 PM | Report abuse

McConnell is a disgusting creep.

Posted by: alarico | February 1, 2011 3:59 PM | Report abuse

ExConservative:
"Remember when the Republicans promised us job creation as priority #1? Yeah, me too. I feel so used."

You should feel used. Remember over a year ago when unemployment breached 9%, and Democrats responded to our economic doldrums by.....prioritizing health care 'reform'?

Perhaps if Obama and the Democrats had prioritized job creation in the previous two years when they had TOTAL CONTROL of both houses of Congress, our country would be a bit better off today.

Posted by: dbw1 | February 1, 2011 3:59 PM | Report abuse

Dear Liberal Friends,

You have a wonderful way of remembering events.

I recall some budget making rule that allowed only a 50 vote majority to pass the health care bill.

I recall no Republican amemdments being entertained for this bill.

I recall Democrats cutting $500 billion out of Medicare to create the savings - this hasn't happened yet.

I recall ten years of taxes to pay for six years of benefits. (If the bill saves so much money, why does the benefits not kick in right away? - because it doesn't, how does the country afford this bill after 2020?)

I recall a recent election which resulted in the largest shift in House seats in American History. A complete repudiation of Obama's policies.

Figure it out!

Posted by: stonewall71 | February 1, 2011 3:58 PM | Report abuse

Jobs are the biggest priority for the new Republicans going to the Hill!

What, they want to re-argue the fights of the last two years? You mean they aren't interested in jobs for normal people are only interested in cynically re-fighting idealogical battles?

...shocker...

Posted by: scott032 | February 1, 2011 3:58 PM | Report abuse

"....and I will move out of maryland if they institute a public option. I'm tired of getting the fruits of my labor confiscated by the Govt - Fed and State."

Dear No-bama, don't let the screen door hit ya.... I doubt Maryland will miss you.

As for Mitch and Barrasso, they can kiss my @ss. I'm supposed to depend on the heartless wretches in the texas lege to ensure that the health care insurance companies don't completely screw me over? fat chance of that.

Posted by: lcrider1 | February 1, 2011 3:58 PM | Report abuse

McConnell has collected $3 million in a taxpayer-funded salary during his 24 years in the U.S. Senate. He also voted to raise his own pay in 2001, 2002 and 2003.

He’s got an extensive stock portfolio that includes investments in ExxonMobile, ChevronTexaco and ConocoPhillips. That’s according to an MSN Money search of the mutual funds McConnell reported. These are the same big oil cronies earning record profits at a time of economic turmoil. During his last 24 years in office and the three decades he’s spent on the government payroll, Mitch McConnell is now a multi-millionaire. All thanks to the taxpayers’ dime.

Estimates of McConnell's net worth is swing wildly between $3 million and $32 million, according to the most recent personal financial disclosure he filed with the Senate. Could this be the reason he’s so defensive about the fact that he’s become wealthy at taxpayer expense?

He's awfully cranky for a multimillionaire. Perhaps if he was busier creating the jobs promised by Boehner in the recent election instead of fleecing our pockets to line his, he'd be a little less bitter.

Posted by: fhcgsps | February 1, 2011 3:57 PM | Report abuse

Where are the jobs and where is the GOP health care plan?

Show me the plan!

Posted by: hateisnotafamilyvalue | February 1, 2011 3:56 PM | Report abuse

Carprin, you just put your whole opinion right in a nutshell by this: I am not a lawyer.

Since you are not a lawyer and you don't seem to understand the constitution I would advise you to keep silent, as the saying goes, to not reveal your lack of knowledge.

We shall have to wait to see if the USSC, the third branch of government, despite the foolishness of Schumer in leaving them out of his incorrect statement, decides that Judge Vinson is correct. I venture to say they will agree with his opinion, in spite of the two more far leftist incompetents Obama selected to back ACLU Ginsberg.

Posted by: rmilitello | February 1, 2011 3:55 PM | Report abuse

The Republicans HAVE NO PLANS, except obstructionism, meanness of spirit, and non-governance.

Posted by: Thad2 | February 1, 2011 3:53 PM | Report abuse

Remember when the Republicans promised us job creation as priority #1? Yeah, me too. I feel so used.

Posted by: ExConservative | February 1, 2011 3:53 PM | Report abuse

guerridolee:

I think you have to answer a few questions:

1) why can't your 24 year old daughter pay for her own insurance while in dental school; it's as much a cost of graduate school as having a car.
2) if she personnally can't afford it, why can't you just give her the money so she can buy her own insurance?
3) if you can't afford it, please explain why someone else should be forced to pay the expenses so your daughter can attend graduate school?

Posted by: dbw1 | February 1, 2011 3:53 PM | Report abuse

McConnell has collected $3 million in a taxpayer-funded salary during his 24 years in the U.S. Senate. He also voted to raise his own pay in 2001, 2002 and 2003.

He’s got an extensive stock portfolio that includes investments in ExxonMobile, ChevronTexaco and ConocoPhillips. That’s according to an MSN Money search of the mutual funds McConnell reported. These are the same big oil cronies earning record profits at a time of economic turmoil. Thanks to his last 24 years in office and the three decades he’s spent on the government payroll, Mitch McConnell is now a multi-millionaire. All thanks to the taxpayers’ dime.

Estimates of McConnell's net worth swing wildly between $3 million and $32 million, according to the most recent personal financial disclosure he filed with the Senate. This may be the reason he’s so defensive about the fact that he’s become wealthy at taxpayer expense. He knows it’s true.

Interestingly enough, taxpayers also fund HIS healthcare. Perhaps Ole Mitch can should have his health care plan discontinued. It seems like he should be able to pay for his own health care, doesn't it?

And, perhaps his time would be better spent with his friend John Boehner creating the jobs that Boehner promised instead of lining their pockets while fleecing ours.

Just a thought.

Posted by: fhcgsps | February 1, 2011 3:53 PM | Report abuse

It wasn't enough that some people were ok with allowing the Supreme Court to "appoint" George Bush President of the United States. The next, more dangerous step, is to allow 5 conservative members of the Court to overturn laws made by the United States Congress simply because they are politically motivated to do so. While the flag-wavers are being distracted and screaming, "socialist" - our rights are being systematically destroyed by the very people they support. Nixon may have died, but his politics are alive and storming through this country today. He would be proud of what the soldiers he left behind have accomplished.

Posted by: mawheelz | February 1, 2011 3:53 PM | Report abuse

So is McConnell going to force congress to give up it's life time health and pension benefits?

Posted by: knjincvc | February 1, 2011 3:52 PM | Report abuse

If HCR is repealed we must immediately rovoke all HC benefits for Senators and Representatives - if it's too expensive for citizens it's too expensive for congress.
No more free health care for congress if HCR is repealed!

Posted by: michael5 | February 1, 2011 3:23 PM | Report abuse

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Congressmen and Senators, along with all federal employees (except armed forces members) pay for their health plan under the Federal Employee Health Benefit Plan.

To the argument that "well, its federal dollars paying for the insurance", would you then say all those mean insurance companies are ownned by smaller companies because they make 72% of the insurance payments to them?

Congressmen and Senators pay for it, out their salaries.

Posted by: PALADIN7E | February 1, 2011 3:52 PM | Report abuse

It wasn't enough that some people were ok with allowing the Supreme Court to "appoint" George Bush President of the United States. The next, more dangerous step, is to allow 5 conservative members of the Court to overturn laws made by the United States Congress simply because they are politically motivated to do so. While the flag-wavers are being distracted and screaming, "socialist" - our rights are being systematically destroyed by the very people they support. Nixon may have died, but his politics are alive and storming through this country today. He would be proud of what the soldiers he left behind have accomplished.

Posted by: mawheelz | February 1, 2011 3:52 PM | Report abuse

Keep grandstanding, Mitch. You've made it obvious that the Republican pols are ignoring the voters who put them back in on a platform of jobs, and are just pursuing a vendetta and staging a meaningless show for the lowbrow base.

Nice work, I'm sure the voters will remember it come election time.

Posted by: info53 | February 1, 2011 3:51 PM | Report abuse

"Why don't children with pre-existing conditions, college students who can't afford to purchase insurance, women who have breast cancer and are facing an insurance cap, and adults with pre-existing conditions just die and decrease the surface population"

Senator Ebenezer Scrooge

"Shut up and die"

The new GOP platform

Posted by: hateisnotafamilyvalue | February 1, 2011 3:51 PM | Report abuse

Wouldn't it be refreshing if they cared about real people with real problems?

Posted by: SarahBB | February 1, 2011 3:46 PM | Report abuse

I guess forcing people to get health insurance could be seen as limiting free choice, but what about the idea of protecting us from ourselves? Suicide and drugs are illegal and I imagine we are okay with that because it's protecting people from t heir own stupidity and danger. Making sure EVERYONE has health care is doing the same thing. Plus, many unbiased sources have said that the Obamacare will save the country money. What's the problem.

Posted by: np2131 | February 1, 2011 3:46 PM | Report abuse

Will the Republicans please present a detailed plan? Turning over health care to the states? What does that mean? I can't believe the number of people who buy this Republican bs.

Posted by: interactingdc | February 1, 2011 3:45 PM | Report abuse

Only wealthy people should be healthy. Everybody else should get sick and die: the sooner the better." -- Sen. E. Scrooge

Posted by: BlueTwo1 | February 1, 2011 3:33 PM | Report abuse

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Actually, to make a point that may be uncomfortable to the original writer, Ebenezer Scrooge was against the use of public charity to help the poor, arguing that government institutions then available in 1840s England were enough to deal with their suffering. Dickens was sure to make this point in A Christmas Carol as well as in several novels.

Posted by: PALADIN7E | February 1, 2011 3:44 PM | Report abuse

This isn't about healthcare or what's good for the people, this is about McConnel's determined effort to make Barack Obama a one term president.

Mitch McConnell we can chalk off as the worst type of politician. He can put his name next to people like Tom Delay, Jack Abramoff, and Richard M. Nixon. He's a disgusting piece of filth.

Posted by: abigsam | February 1, 2011 3:44 PM | Report abuse

sharedgum:
"Also on the ballot - repealing the need to have valid car insurance when operating a motor vehicle. I mean, if you think about it, it really makes no sense to keep this in place, and I don't know how I haven't rebelled earlier against this tyrannical and socialist propaganda."

Feel free to point us to the FEDERAL law that mandates auto insurance be carried by car drivers.

I love it when liberals try to compare their version of 'health care reform' to auto insurance....it makes it too easy to pick the ACA apart.

Posted by: dbw1 | February 1, 2011 3:44 PM | Report abuse

Should have gone after a "single payer" system from the beginning if we're going to lose what's left. It was a good thing that my daughter was able to go back on our insurance at 24 while she completes to dental school. What heartless cold people, why? Why Mr. McConnell is healthcare for all a bad thing why?

Posted by: guerridolee | February 1, 2011 3:43 PM | Report abuse


Those who can't do, repeal. Much easier than the heavy lifting of coming up with your own plan. Or jobs.

Posted by: jack824 | February 1, 2011 3:42 PM | Report abuse

Should have gone after a "single payer" system from the beginning if we're going to lose what's left. It was a good thing that my daughter was able to go back on our insurance at 24 while she completes to dental school. What heartless cold people, why? Why is healthcare for all bad thing why?

Posted by: guerridolee | February 1, 2011 3:41 PM | Report abuse

Regarding the "unconstitutionality" of the bill, generally there is a "severability clause" in legislation that allows a section to be declared unconstitutional without destroying the entire bill.

Secondly, maybe it's time for Congress to have a rule that legislation must be on a single subject. An amendment on the health care legislation does not belong attached to a bill on the FAA or anything else unrelated to health care.

Posted by: Arjay70 | February 1, 2011 3:41 PM | Report abuse

Oh yeah, McConnell ? THEN WHAT?

After all, sitting on your hands while the legislation was being put together seemes to not work very well for you, but you seem to have a penchant for bluster, then sitting down and doing nothing.

This time, what will it be, or are you simply content to criticize and not actually come up with a plan or even a part of a plan?

Total, all-out, FAIL, McConnell.

Total.

Go ahead, vote all you want. It's what you do in legislation that counts, and from where I sit, well it's all bluster and never any input to the legislation - simply put, "no" is too little for a Congressman to actually "do".

try doing SOMETHING other than NO, m'kay?

Posted by: pgibson1 | February 1, 2011 3:40 PM | Report abuse

It's pitiful watching the Repugs just spin there wheels. If they ever were to repeal this health care law, and that's a big IF... I will strongly support a full public option health care bill.

Posted by: great81 | February 1, 2011 3:40 PM | Report abuse

We the people voted for President Obama. We listened to his platform and we decided that this is who we the people wanted to be our President. We want healthcare, we wanted the bailout for the middle class, the wars stopped, and etc.

We the people want the healthcare plan, it is far from perfect but it is a good start. The Republicans for as long as I can remember has dictated to the American people what we don't want. Their whole world is to support and appease the lobbyists and the corporations that are lining their pockets.

Let me summary this - high unemployment, no job creation, cuts to medicare, putting the fundings for social security in the stock market, no unemployment payments, no jobs in sight and no making of any. The Republicans have created 6 social classes in the US. The poor, poorer and the poorest while the rich, richer and the richest take all our money and dictate to us what we are suppose to care about.

This is the recipe for Cairo. The Republican are lighting the fuse to dynamic and they don't even know it. This will not be a revolt staged by the corporations but by the real people.

Power to the people, by the people for the people.

Posted by: sun52shine | February 1, 2011 3:39 PM | Report abuse

Should have gone after a "single payer" system from the beginning if we're going to lose what's left. It was a good thing that my daughter was able to go back on our insurance at 24 while she completes to dental school. What heartless cold people, why? Why is healthcare for a bad thing why?

Posted by: guerridolee | February 1, 2011 3:39 PM | Report abuse

Y'all want some cheese with that whine?

Two federal judges have ruled. Ya think they may have some legal knowledge of The Constitution?

Did y'all know about the 3.8% federal sales tax on homes in the bill? It starts in 2013, but I'll let y'all research it
since ya know everything in your crusade
for Social Justice.

Anyone thinking Republicans are ruining America, must think Obamacare is good, so I must ask again...have you read it?

Or do you just genuflect to your savior
Mr. Obama? If Obama is working for your collective salvation, you're in a whole lot of trouble boy.

Maranatha

Posted by: BluePelican | February 1, 2011 3:39 PM | Report abuse

The irony of this is that if the Democrats had insisted on the public option there would be strong support for this law among
their voters. Without the public option, repeal is a ho hum. They passed a weak bill that does little to improve the health care system in the U.S. To get the bill passed, they gave away the things that their supporters wanted. Passing the bill did not lose the House for the Democrats. Passing a weak bill did.

My reaction to repeal was summed up by Rhett Butler, "frankly I don't give a
d----."

Posted by: gboesky | February 1, 2011 3:39 PM | Report abuse

For those who are against the new health care bill, tell me what is so wonderful about what you had before? Your children were not allowed to be on your health care plan if they had a pre-existing condition. Your elderly parents were paying prime prices for their prescription drugs because the Bush drug plan did not include the same options as the veteran plans.
This new plan is not run by the government, nor does the government determine whether you will receive health care or not. It simply enforces your right as a human being to be given the right to health care, which previously has been denied to you.
Insurance companies are FOR-PROFIT companies, out to make a profit. Unless they are regulated, they will continue raising the rates, increasing the deductibles, and offering less. It is the insurance companies that have been breaking their contracts with customers. It is the insurance companies that have been determining what treatment you would receive, not the doctor. It has been the insurance companies that have mandated your care, not your doctors.
Senator Colburn, from Oklahoma, told a woman whose husband had been in an accident and received a head injury, which the insurance company refused to pay for his care, and said that it was time for neighbor to help neighbor. So the next time you get sick, are you going to knock on your neighbor's door and ask for them to help take care of your spouse or donate money to the cause, instead of expect the insurance company that you have been paying premiums to, do fulfill their contract and pay for that care.
Working class people are not asking for a handout, they are just expecting to be treated fairly, and honestly.
This is a class war, it always has been. There is a greed in this country that is out of control. Without regulation, we will see a return to the greed on Wall Street that caused this problem in the first place. Without everyone paying for insurance, we will continue to see health care increase, creating a larger divide between the rich and the poor. We all have to live together. It would be nice if we would all work together, instead of thinking of just what is good for ourselves.

Posted by: concerned-american | February 1, 2011 3:39 PM | Report abuse

McConnell and his cohorts want to be Dictators but we still have a democracy in this Country. If the Healthcare Bill is repealed we will reintroduce it later and pass single payer. The will of the majority will prevail over the greedy.

Posted by: fasm7700 | February 1, 2011 3:39 PM | Report abuse

How DARE they make this a part of an FAA authorization?

They would jeopardize the safely of our air control network to make a sick political point?

Does the Senile Senator from Kentucky have no shame what-so-ever?

His party certainly has no plausible alternative health care plan what-so-ever.

Enough is enough.

This constant obstructionism was bad enough last Congress. It is inexcusable now, when the Republicans have left this country's finances on the brink of collapse -- and are now targeting our air traffic control system.

Posted by: PeterIII | February 1, 2011 3:37 PM | Report abuse

Is there a way to make this right-wing sack of crapp stop wasting time and dedicate his miserable time to do something good FOR the country?

Posted by: analyst72 | February 1, 2011 3:35 PM | Report abuse

I don't believe that I have ever seen such a scarier group of people that now pupulate the Republican Party. Every member seems to be mindlessly following their idiot masters what's his name in the House (that orange glow is from too many cigarettes) and McConnell in the Senate. They don't give a damn about healthcare for the people because these idiots have it free for life. They have not put forward ONE SINGLE CONCRETE SUGGESTION on what they would do for the rest of the country if the current health care reform were to be repealed. Just imagine what McCONNELCARE would be like - it would be run by AIG and Wall Street investment firms who would be given a guaranteed return on the money they make selling usless, overpriced policies that won't cover much at all and certainly no pre-existing condistions. This guarantee will not be based on performance but rather a republican tithing of our tax money in order that the fat cats can maintain the multimillion dollar (and some billion dollar) bonuses, They will also be given even greater tax breaks for their gross diservice to all Americans. We are headed for a serious decline in America - people must begin to think through what these scary morons are doing - just plain lying whenever they open their mouths and appealing to the most basic fears and motivations of people. Lets let them know it must stop, then vote them completely out of office.

Posted by: ken40 | February 1, 2011 3:35 PM | Report abuse

"Only wealthy people should be healthy. Everybody else should get sick and die: the sooner the better." -- Sen. E. Scrooge

Posted by: BlueTwo1 | February 1, 2011 3:33 PM | Report abuse


Silly Dims, the law is unconstitutional and has already been repealed by the House. Prepare yourselves to lose another dozen Senate seats next year, yet you still insist on choking on Barry's dog food.

Posted by: screwjob23 | February 1, 2011 3:32 PM | Report abuse

The real death panels have been operating way before looney palin came up with the Phrase. They work for the insurance companies, and they decide who lives or dies. Say what? You got cancer? As of right now, we are droping your coverage! As in "drop dead."

Posted by: crosseyedamerican | February 1, 2011 3:31 PM | Report abuse

What happened to transparency and the much ballyhooed hearings mentioned by Republicans during the elections? Grandstanding for a mysterious "people" without considering the common welfare implications. Might as well tell the children, get your own insurance and stop depending own your parents and the government, and by-the-way, get a job.

Posted by: ntmcdowell | February 1, 2011 3:29 PM | Report abuse

I hope the repeal includes the health insurance the senator enjoys at no cost to him

Posted by: Ackvar | February 1, 2011 3:28 PM | Report abuse

How hard is it to repeal a piece of crap that half the states are suing over and that businesses are lining up in droves for exemptions from this business/job killing ill constructed UNREAD garbage. Funny, even the unions who wanted it, have gotten an exemption from it.

KILL THIS PIECE OF CRAP. Start over and fix what's broken and not break what is already fix.

Posted by: thejames1225 | February 1, 2011 3:27 PM | Report abuse

To Trakker: No child is going to be diagnosed with Leukemia and left to die in this country unless the parents cite religious medical exemption, and evern then they can be tried for child abuse. Don't freak out.

This is not a Rep vs Dem thing. Okay it is, but we have to look beyond party affilliations or else we lose.

We don't know everything int his bill but what we do know is not good. There does need to be health care reform but we have to start with CUTTING COSTS and REGULATING.

The one thing this bill has done is raise insurance rates and lower the percentages employers are paying. In other words, it has already cost the tax payers too much.

This is about America, not Reps and Dems. If you cannot figure that out then we are lost as a country.

Posted by: hebe1 | February 1, 2011 3:27 PM | Report abuse

The party of the 'NO' aka Republicans made a huge damage to the economy during 8 years of Bush administration.Now they have the house back they re trying to make a even bigger damage,haven t learned the mistake from the past!

Posted by: waguinhousa07 | February 1, 2011 3:27 PM | Report abuse

Also on the ballot - repealing the need to have valid car insurance when operating a motor vehicle. I mean, if you think about it, it really makes no sense to keep this in place, and I don't know how I haven't rebelled earlier against this tyrannical and socialist propaganda. Why would we even have this in place? I tell you, the Tea Party has opened up all these previously unexplored ways of thinking for me.

Posted by: sharedgum | February 1, 2011 3:24 PM | Report abuse

Without the most dilatory legislative effort in decades. If SCOTUS finds the law unconstitutional, the law is repealed. If SCOTUS finds the law constitutional, the law is upheld. Until that point occurs, hopefully within a few weeks, laws to repeal the measure or to reinforce it are absurd.

Assume repeal. What would be the purpose of this bill?

Posted by: Martial | February 1, 2011 3:23 PM | Report abuse

If HCR is repealed we must immediately rovoke all HC benefits for Senators and Representatives - if it's too expensive for citizens it's too expensive for congress.
No more free health care for congress if HCR is repealed!

Posted by: michael5 | February 1, 2011 3:23 PM | Report abuse

GOP alternatives

What are they?

Put them out there so they can be voted on

Posted by: kidvid | February 1, 2011 3:22 PM | Report abuse

If HCR is repealed we must immediately rovoke all HC benefits for Senators and Representatives - if it's too expensive for citizens it's too expensive for congress.
No more free health care for congress if HCR is repealed!

Posted by: michael5 | February 1, 2011 3:22 PM | Report abuse

The Republicans are continuing with their goal to destroy America. Bad Congress and bad judges.

Posted by: imaldridge | February 1, 2011 3:22 PM | Report abuse

Mitch McConnell = charter member of the Blue Meanies

Posted by: leonh741 | February 1, 2011 3:21 PM | Report abuse

BUT THEY STILL FEEL THAT THEY DESERVE THEIR OWN GOVERNMENT RUN HEALTH CARE - OH YEAH, THE REST OF US ARE DIRT. WHEN WILL AMERICANS WAKE UP?

Posted by: spr2110 | February 1, 2011 3:21 PM | Report abuse

Repeal this bill any way possible.

Posted by: Jsuf | February 1, 2011 3:21 PM | Report abuse


Where are the jobs, Barry?

Where?

Miserable failure Obama

Posted by: screwjob23 | February 1, 2011 3:20 PM | Report abuse

That sounds like an earmark that contains zero funding. I thought these guys said no more earmarks. One month in and everything is status quo.

Posted by: Falling4Ever | February 1, 2011 3:20 PM | Report abuse

With a supreme court ruling the bill unconstitutional, it will be interesting to see of the Obama admin is going to ignore a federal court order....we may be witnessing Watergate all over again.

Posted by: NO-bama | February 1, 2011 3:05 PM | Report abuse

WHAT? Watergate was the cover-up of a break in. What you're saying makes no sense at all.

Posted by: hateisnotafamilyvalue | February 1, 2011 3:18 PM | Report abuse

They should repeal their own health care first.

Posted by: martymar123 | February 1, 2011 3:16 PM | Report abuse


By all means hilarious Dims, vote against repeal of Obamacare in the Senate. There are 20 of you up for re-election next year, 13 from states that are now red states. If you have learned nothing from your slaughter in the last election.

Vote to keep that unconstitutional law that the House has already repealed. Your name is on your vote, Dims.


Posted by: screwjob23 | February 1, 2011 3:16 PM | Report abuse

What really galls me is that when, we, the Democrats had the house and the senate, the repugs `managed to control the agenda. Is it just that the Dems don't know how to play dirty or is it just that they are gutless. Doesn't matter - they gave the repugs the whole enchilada in the summer of 2009 when they let themselves be swift boated and teA BAGGED. I wish Alan Grayson was President.

Posted by: spr2110 | February 1, 2011 3:16 PM | Report abuse

Great!!!!!!

Posted by: tonyjm | February 1, 2011 3:16 PM | Report abuse

What really galls me is that when, we, the Democrats had the house and the senate, the repugs `managed to control the agenda. Is it just that the Dems don't know how to play dirty or is it just that they are gutless. Doesn't matter - they gave the repugs the whole enchilada in the summer of 2009 when they let themselves be swift boated and teA BAGGED. I wish Alan Grayson was President.

Posted by: spr2110 | February 1, 2011 3:16 PM | Report abuse

Unions can opt out because they have extremely good health care coverage, better than most. Why make them accept less?

Posted by: clairevb | February 1, 2011 3:15 PM | Report abuse

The entire committee that worked on ObamaCare should be declared Incompetent.
Its unconstitutional; it doesn't reduce healthcare costs; its 2700 pages of new regulations, taxes and takes-over student loans! And unions are allowed to Opt-out!
Its a mess.

Posted by: ohioan | February 1, 2011 3:12 PM | Report abuse

Republicans will attach the health care repeal to an FAA funding bill. Why? Can't they bother to make their repeal a separate issue? It has nothing to do with the FAA. Their bill should stand on its own if it is a good bill.

Posted by: clairevb | February 1, 2011 3:12 PM | Report abuse

Why don't the Republicans do something constructive instead of destructive for once? They're good at starting wars and giving big tax breaks to their special benefactors, doing things with the Kock brothers behind closed doors but they DO NOTHING for the American people.

Where was there attempts at job creation when they were in power? Lame at best, they didn't try all they managed to do was ruin our economy and our military and then pass it on to Obama and now they're spending their time deconstructing!

The GOP just wants to turn this country into a third world country where they and their friends have the best of everything and the rest of us will be selling pencils on a street corner.

My entire 60 years of life the GOP has done nothing but do their best to relegate the middle class into oblivion so people like Murdoch can get richer!

The Republicans are the reason our jobs have been going overseas not to mention it's their policies are what caused the worst recession since the great depression.

The GOP/TP should get their heads out from where the sun don't shine and do something for the people who pay their salaries and for their health care!

Posted by: davidbronx | February 1, 2011 3:11 PM | Report abuse

Someone wrote "Even if this bill was cost-neutral with no individual mandate, Republicans would still be against it."

Whoever wrote this is a partisan idiot - if the bill was cost neutral with no forced mandate, then everyone would be FOR IT. You just named the two MOST ONEROUS parts of the bill...come on, get over the whole "racist" blame game and look at the facts. Race has NOTHING to do with the opposition to this crappy bill.

Posted by: NO-bama | February 1, 2011 3:10 PM | Report abuse

Excuse me, Democrats AND Republicans currently residing in the Federal Government, but...WHERE are the JOBS?

Posted by: wcmillionairre | February 1, 2011 3:09 PM | Report abuse

"McConnell said Tuesday that the repeal measure will be proposed as an amendment to a Federal Aviation Administration funding bill."
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There should be law against mixing bills that have no relations with each other.
What does FAA have to do with this repeal?

Such smoke screen tactic only reduces transparency for our government. It doesn't matter which party is using it. It should not be allowed.

What do you think?

Posted by: dummy4peace | February 1, 2011 3:09 PM | Report abuse

Don't attach it to anything, Mitch. See how it goes over as a stand-alone item. Coward. Why does the GOP hate the American middle-class and lower?

Posted by: jckdoors | February 1, 2011 3:08 PM | Report abuse

With a supreme court ruling the bill unconstitutional, it will be interesting to see of the Obama admin is going to ignore a federal court order....we may be witnessing Watergate all over again.

Posted by: NO-bama | February 1, 2011 3:05 PM | Report abuse

Because you, McConnell, and all of your
Republican wingnuts are RACISTS!

You do not want our President to succeed in
anything, you want him to fail which is
what you have publicly stated on numerous
occasions. Your disrespect for our
President is disgusting.

YOUR ARE A RACIST TO YOUR BONES MCCONNELL,
and all of the Republican lip-service
regarding JOBS durint he mid-term
campaigns is a bunch of BS.

President Obama will succeed, the voters
will look at the Republican fear-mongering,
and you will be turned out in 2012 because you are all a bunch of liars, who
disrespect your constituents, and
care only about the wealthy and
large corporations - including your
pals in oil, insurance and the NRA!

Posted by: Sirius2 | February 1, 2011 3:04 PM | Report abuse

Who would ever have thought we had so many constitutional experts in the country. Most of the posters here know exactly what the constitution means, and they know exactly what was in the mind of each and everyone of the founding fathers when the voted on it. Why do we even bother to have a Supreme Court and what are all those decisions about anyway? It's pretty evident that the lawyers and judges who have spent the last couple of hundred years wrestling with the meaning of our constitution are pretty stupid. After all, they only thing they had to do was join the Tea Party, and they would've have known what ever sentence in the constitution meant and why it was there.

Posted by: seldoc1 | February 1, 2011 3:04 PM | Report abuse

Republicans announce today they want an opt out provision for states to opt out of unemployment.

Why don't these idiots concentrate on job creation so folks can buy their own health insurance. End the BS of the Republican Party.

Posted by: Maddogg | February 1, 2011 3:01 PM | Report abuse

Some Democrats were voted out, because they did not get the Public Option for the people, not because the voters did not want the health care reform.

Universal Health Care, which was adopted in 1880's by Germany, has not bankrupt Germany. The German economy is prosperous and even enjoys a trade surplus over China.

With Universal Health Care, we will continue spending more on health care.

I don't have a problem for our government to force people to buy insurance. I do have a problem when people are forced to buy it from a private insurance company, which thrives on full support from GOP.

We should outlaw profits for private health insurers before we force everyone to buy health insurance.

Our government has managed Medicare very effectively and efficiently, because Medicare covers only the very old and unhealthy people and yet, Medicare charges the lowest premium in the market.

Let's expand Medicare to ALL Americans and lower premiums further and make it sustainable.

Without Universal Health Care, USA is a goner in this financial conservative's view.

Thanks!

Posted by: dummy4peace | February 1, 2011 3:00 PM | Report abuse

Dear Senate - NO votes on any legislation, NO votes on new appointments until this corrupt, unconstitutional, big-brother piece of crap Obamacare is repealed.

Posted by: pgr88 | February 1, 2011 2:58 PM | Report abuse

Deficit reduction must begin with Health Care reform. It is the biggest ticket item besides the Pentagon. Obama's law is not perfect but it offers a great beginning. It would have been better if Republicans had participated in shaping it to start with. They refused in a calculated political effort to destroy Obama at all costs. Can I emphasize those last words: AT ALL COSTS!

Repeal is going nowhere. Period. It will not be ruled unconstitutional by the Supreme Court. But why wait? Why can't Republicans help Democrats to correct the bill and eliminate further costs by making it rational, civilized and, yes, more "socialistic". The only thing to fear is putting a small dent in insurance company profits.

Posted by: walden1 | February 1, 2011 2:57 PM | Report abuse

Even if this bill was cost-neutral with no individual mandate, Republicans would still be against it.

Why? Because it will help "those people" [fill in the racial, ethnic or class slur of your choice here]. Since the primary recipients aren't the well-heeled, white supporters of the GOP, what do they care?

Don't know how these jokers sleep at night. But hey, thanks to their government health plans - courtesy of me and you - they can afford the Ambien to knock themselves out.

Posted by: MidwaySailor76 | February 1, 2011 2:43 PM | Report abuse

This works for me - Virginia has already filed the paperwork to opt out anyway.

If Obamacare was the icing on the cake that Americans were waiting for, voters would have elected MORE Democrats to office rather than ousting them.

That and 26 states that do NOT want Obamacare, is a pretty clear indication that the health care law is limping badly.

Posted by: asmith1 | February 1, 2011 2:38 PM | Report abuse

Why is it we did not here as much when the two other judges decided their cases in favor of the Administration. I am not a lawyer neighter are the Talking Heads we hear every day on WMAL but I think Judge Vinson over stepped his bounds overreached in declaring the inyire bill unconstitutional. But guess What what he did not stop the Administration from going ahead and implementing the other provisions of the Bill. Go Figure. The Talking Heads on the Richt always talk about Activist Judges well well I guess they are not Activist when they rule in your favor.
26 Attorneys General brought this suit,, How do they face their voters who have Preexisting conditions and tell then NO you cant have Health Care Reform--but by the way I want you to vote for my canidate,.
The Republicans are digging their own grave. People are not stupid they see whats happening. THe Republicans don want us to have nothing. Marie Antoinette must have been a Republican " Let them eat Cake"

Posted by: Carprin | February 1, 2011 2:37 PM | Report abuse

charko825

So are you saying companies only started moving oversees and jobs only were lost when Obama became president? Really? It just goes to show how when a black guys is in charge white people think they can say anything about him true or not. Republicans have excepted delusional thinking as the new reality. Just make up lies about Obama but tell the lies with enough conviction to make them sound true. The same people that say, he is not a citizen, he is an arab, his is a muslim, he is a nazi, he is a marxist. People like you have been lying about Obama since day one. And you are still lying. I guess you think you can just lie about Obama all the way to 2012.

Posted by: ged0386 | February 1, 2011 2:35 PM | Report abuse

Republicans refuse to create jobs and remain on target to help companies outsource more American jobs.

Posted by: Maddogg | February 1, 2011 2:35 PM | Report abuse

Someone should remind Senator Graham that NULLIFICATION has been tried before, and failed.
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Let ACA stand or fall on its constitutional merits, but let it apply EQUALLY for all Americans, just like it says in Art VI of our Constitution.

Posted by: OldUncleTom | February 1, 2011 2:33 PM | Report abuse

Here's why the opt-out is a bad idea.

Let's say I live in South Carolina, and it opts out of the health care system. My little girl gets sick and is diagnosed with Leukemia. I'm faced with potential medical bills of $500,000 and I know I can't pay it.

I have three choices, 1) do nothing and let her die, 2) have the treatment and then file bankruptcy (which means the citizens pay because the losses will be passed on to them), or 3) move to a state that insures everyone. I move, of course.

This is great for South Carolina, it gets rid of a very sick kid that could cost the state money, but it's bad for the citizens of the state that is more compassionate. They will be swamped with citizens with high medical costs moving there from the less compassionate states.

Posted by: Trakker | February 1, 2011 2:30 PM | Report abuse

Two years into his Administration and the policies of Obama continue to kill jobs in America.
More companies are moving out of the country due to Obama's adversarial stance against businesses.
It really does look like Obama is trying to kill our Free Enterprise economy!

Posted by: charko825
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HEY DUDE..where are all the JOBS from your Republican Campaign Promises?

You said there would be immediate results..!

Where are the jobs your promised?

Come on you lazyasss DUDE..

Posted by: IssaGallegos1 | February 1, 2011 2:27 PM | Report abuse

Libs aren't stupid we all pay for their silliness,like electric cars that don't work in cold weather, or wanting them in a state like CA that can't even keep the lights on in the summer. Then turn around and say we can't use coal to produce that power, they need, but it good that we all pay more for power.

Posted by: tateofpa |
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BAMMMM.. right from the first word..!
Expressing Racism, Prejudice and hate..of LIBERALS..and of course no SOLUTIONS!!

LIKE PUBLIC OPTION

From the first word in the sentence..

Posted by: IssaGallegos1 | February 1, 2011 2:22 PM | Report abuse

Libs aren't stupid we all pay for their silliness,like electric cars that don't work in cold weather, or wanting them in a state like CA that can't even keep the lights on in the summer. Then turn around and say we can't use coal to produce that power, they need, but it good that we all pay more for power.

Posted by: tateofpa |
====================
BAMMMM.. right from the first word..!
Expressing Racism, Prejudice and hate..of LIBERALS..and of course no SOLUTIONS!!

From the first word in the sentence..

Posted by: IssaGallegos1 | February 1, 2011 2:22 PM | Report abuse

I wonder why Graham and Barrasso are trying so hard to terminate the lives of their citizens without due process.

Posted by: Maddogg | February 1, 2011 2:20 PM | Report abuse

Two years into his Administration and the policies of Obama continue to kill jobs in America.
More companies are moving out of the country due to Obama's adversarial stance against businesses.
It really does look like Obama is trying to kill our Free Enterprise economy!

Posted by: charko825 | February 1, 2011 2:19 PM | Report abuse

Yes, that should work. When a democrat is Governor, the people will get health care. When a republican is governor, they'll lose it. That shouldn't piss off the population too much.

Posted by: pathfinder12 | February 1, 2011 2:14 PM | Report abuse

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WHERE ARE THE JOBS, REPUBLICANS ?!?!


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Posted by: DrainYou | February 1, 2011 2:11 PM | Report abuse

Libs aren't stupid we all pay for their silliness,like electric cars that don't work in cold weather, or wanting them in a state like CA that can't even keep the lights on in the summer. Then turn around and say we can't use coal to produce that power, they need, but it good that we all pay more for power.

Posted by: tateofpa | February 1, 2011 1:07 PM | Report abuse

Silly me I would have thought that all laws being writen and passed by congress, would have went through this first. It seem that too many of these bills pass in the last 2 yrs. have many unknown problems coming to light. Why, could it be that too many of these laws were done behind close doors and not examine in the light of day? The dems have been putting the horse before the cart too many times, just to get it out, and damn the consequences, we'll fix them later. If regular people had done this at their jobs, they would have been fired long ago.

Posted by: tateofpa | February 1, 2011 12:52 PM | Report abuse

....and I will move out of maryland if they institute a public option. I'm tired of getting the fruits of my labor confiscated by the Govt - Fed and State.

Posted by: NO-bama | February 1, 2011 11:41 AM | Report abuse

"The hearing, which will take place before the full Senate Judiciary Committee, will be the first-ever to examine the constitutionality of the health care law."

This is one of the many reasons I cannot support the law. The Democrats decided it was better to get something passed than to bother considering constitutionality or any other repercussions their legislation might have. Many of them have described it as "imperfect," forgetting that 2000-plus pages of imperfect legislation creates many more thousands of pages of imperfect policy, which then needs to be "fixed" with thousands of pages of new legislation.

Posted by: morattico | February 1, 2011 11:40 AM | Report abuse

I have begun writing letters to the Governor and Legislature of Maryland voicing my support for a MD state public option. Given the political composition of Maryland I'm quite certain the votes would be there and would stay there (no possible Republican repeal campaign).

Posted by: hateisnotafamilyvalue | February 1, 2011 11:26 AM | Report abuse

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