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Posted at 4:40 PM ET, 02/ 9/2011

Patriot Act extension to be brought up again on Thursday

By Felicia Sonmez

The House on Thursday will again take up a bill that would extend until December key provisions of the Patriot Act counterterrorism surveillance law, two days after the measure fell seven votes short of the super-majority required for passage under fast-track rules.

The bill will be brought up again under a "closed rule," meaning that no amendments can be offered. It will need only a simple majority to pass instead of the two-thirds that was required on Tuesday.

That means that the bill will likely be approved. On Tuesday, 277 lawmakers supported the measure, well more than half of the chamber's members.

Lawmakers will vote on Thursday on the rules governing debate on the measure. That will be followed by debate and a vote on the measure itself, which has yet to be scheduled. A House Republican leadership aide said that GOP leaders are working with members to address any concerns they might have and that they expect the bill to move forward "in the coming days."

The timeline facing lawmakers could be tricky. The three provisions that would be extended by the bill are set to expire on Feb. 28 unless Congress acts.

Even if the House passes its version of the legislation well before then, the Senate - which is in recess until next week - still has to sign off. And the Senate is debating three different timelines, any of which would extend the Patriot Act provisions beyond the December date called for in the House bill.

Key members of the Senate Judiciary Committee have indicated that Feb. 17 is the target date by which the upper chamber must act in order for the provisions to be extended.

The failure on Tuesday of the Patriot Act extension was one of several unexpected turns on the House floor in recent days. Earlier Tuesday, over objections from conservatives, GOP leaders pulled a bill that would have assisted U.S. workers hurt by overseas competition.

And on Wednesday, a measure to take back $180 million in funds the U.S. has already given to the United Nations also fell short of a two-thirds super-majority.

The bill, which had been fast-tracked, failed on a 259-to-169 vote. It had been sponsored by House Foreign Affairs Committee Chairman Ileana Ros-Lehtinen (R-Fla.) but was opposed by House Homeland Security Committee Chairman Peter King (R-N.Y.), who was one of two Republicans to vote against it Wednesday.

Democrats charged that the failed votes indicate that the GOP is in "disarray."

"I don't know why the leadership would call votes on issues that they don't have any idea of what the outcome's likely to be," said Rep. Dennis Kucinich (D-Ohio), one of the most oustpoken opponents of the Patriot Act. "This is twice in a row. I'm not really sure what the strategy is. ... It's not working for them."

By Felicia Sonmez  | February 9, 2011; 4:40 PM ET
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Look for this act to be passed. With that said, will the events going on in Egypt and the Middle East reinforce the need to pass this act? Right now though the MSM has been reporting that Mubarak will step down, but there are now conflicting reports coming out claiming that he will not. Even if he does resign, the top military leadership are to remain as part of a ‘military tribunal’. Do any of you know what that means? The military will remain in control! To top this off a reporter talking to the reporters on FOX Business news channel at about 10am PST said that he thinks that the Egyptian military, supplied and equiped by who, has been orchestrating the entire event!
http://ameriloansearch.com/news/obama-supports-states-with-jobless-aid.html

Posted by: HarrisonJ | February 11, 2011 7:47 AM | Report abuse

They pass this act the second time and it will puts names out who should not be coming back to Washington. Vote out anyone who is stupid enough to vote against the American people and extend this nasty piece of legislation.

Liberals don't like it. Moderates don't like it. Conservatives don't like it. The only people who like it is the government. Wonder why? Because it grants them powers they never should have had. Go ahead and vote it at your own risk because it will come back to bite you on your next election. That you can bet.

Posted by: Desertdiva1 | February 10, 2011 11:28 PM | Report abuse

Changing the rules so they have enough votes to perpetuate the police state in this country.
This is what you see in dictatorships like in Egypt. Not in a free society.
Does the federal government exist with the consent of the people today?

Posted by: hzogs | February 10, 2011 6:36 PM | Report abuse

what, another try to bamboozle the ignorant. apparently those voting yes for such a horrific impingment upon the rights of WE THE PEOPLE has to be ignorant, stupid, paid off, or just downright brainwashed!!!! havent you insiders looked up to see the chemtrails over the capital? its not only us that is affected by all that toxic release of chemicals, you know....havent you heard of the bill being put on tha agenda to stop the poisoning of our precious air???ron paul, again one of the only honest men there!! you reps from maine: you need to do the right thing!!and voting yes for that abomination of a fascist law is not it!! we are waking up out here, stop making laws against us! remember you can be voted out!!!

Posted by: lunalinda47 | February 10, 2011 2:41 PM | Report abuse

Maryland Reps.: Word to the wise, if you voted "yes" last time, you better change that vote this time. Your effort in trying to extend this abomination will not be forgotten.

Posted by: jckdoors | February 10, 2011 9:58 AM | Report abuse

Why is the leadership of my party, the GOP, trying to extend the unconstitutional PATRIOT Act? Get out of our lives, Washington!

Posted by: vaughnhathaway | February 10, 2011 9:49 AM | Report abuse

In other words a few crooked tyrant politicians are still afraid that they will be tared and feathered. So they are keeping tabs and taps on certain people to make sure they don't get an investigation started and prosecute them as the war criminals that they are!! How many right wing politicians did the right wing have to bribe with special interest to get this passed? What was the prize, oil stock? Or was it a condo in the Caribbean? Stinkin Crooks!!

Posted by: kimkimminni1 | February 10, 2011 9:15 AM | Report abuse

In other words a few crooked tyrant politicians are still afraid that they will be tared and feathered. So they are keeping tabs and taps on certain people to make sure they don't get an investigation started and prosecute them as the war criminals that they are!! How many right wing politicians did the right wing have to bribe with special interest to get this passed? What was the prize, oil stock? Or was it a condo in the Caribbean? Stinkin Crooks!!

Posted by: kimkimminni1 | February 10, 2011 9:14 AM | Report abuse

In other words a few crooked tyrant politicians are still afraid that they will be tared and feathered. So they are keeping tabs and taps on certain people to make sure they don't get an investigation started and prosecute them as the war criminals that they are!! How many right wing politicians did the right wing have to bribe with special interest to get this passed? What was the prize, oil stock? Or was it a condo in the Caribbean? Stinkin Crooks!!

Posted by: kimkimminni1 | February 10, 2011 9:13 AM | Report abuse

Give the States back their National guards so border States have protection and defense.

Put the system back to rights.

Posted by: dottydo | February 10, 2011 12:18 AM
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So border states can protect and defend themselves from who??

The federal government?

Black helicopters?

Posted by: knjincvc | February 10, 2011 1:04 AM | Report abuse

No thank you.
End the shadow government, and fund the FBI.
Give the States back their National guards so border States have protection and defense.

Put the system back to rights.

Posted by: dottydo | February 10, 2011 12:18 AM | Report abuse

I hope it goes down again. This was a disgrace when it was enacted in the first place. What part of "No" don't these people understand. Some of the Republicans keep bleating about the Constitution and then they try to ram this down our throats. Have they read the polls? Most Americans don't want it.

Posted by: sharronkm | February 9, 2011 11:16 PM | Report abuse

If the "PATRIOT" Act is extended, I'm renouncing my citizenship.

Posted by: frefre29 | February 9, 2011 9:43 PM | Report abuse

Wouldn't it be great if it failed to pass
the second time?

Posted by: roketscientist | February 9, 2011 6:40 PM
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This is make or break for newly elected TP members of congress and for those who won with TP backing.

Bachmann already proved she's not a real member of the Tee-party.

Posted by: knjincvc | February 9, 2011 9:38 PM | Report abuse

Close the borders and pass ONE FLAG ONE ALLEGIANCE legislation seems to be a better control on the problem afoot, in the voting booths, and running amok here.
Pick the Country where your allegiances are and give up any dual citizenship.

Posted by: dottydo | February 9, 2011 8:36 PM | Report abuse

Close the borders and pass ONE FLAG ONE ALLEGIANCE legislation seems to be a better control on the problem afoot, in the voting booths, and running amok here.
Pick the Country where your allegiances are and give up any dual citizenship.

Posted by: dottydo | February 9, 2011 8:35 PM | Report abuse

Close the borders and pass ONE FLAG ONE ALLEGIANCE legislation seems to be a better control on the problem afoot, in the voting booths, and running amok here.
Pick the Country where your allegiances are and give up any dual citizenship.

Posted by: dottydo | February 9, 2011 8:34 PM | Report abuse

'The House on Thursday will again take up a bill that would extend until December key provisions of the Patriot Act counterterrorism surveillance law...' --That's *controversial* Patriot Act counterterrorism surveillance law. I notice the lamestream media typically adds the adjective 'controversial' to any bill/efforts that impinge -- even for the breadth of six molecules -- on any US efforts to wage war or effect corpora-terrorist rule. However, in the case of the 'PATRIOT' Act, reporters forgot to add it.
Cheers,
Lori Price
Editor-in-Chief
Citizens For Legitimate Government
http://www.legitgov.org/

Posted by: lorifromclg | February 9, 2011 8:18 PM | Report abuse

True Colors time...

44 of 52 'Tea Party' representatives voted to continue these tenets of the police state Patriots Acts. They have already proven themselves to be liars once. Now they get a second chance to prove who they serve: We the People or a bi-partisan dictatorship that seeks to undermine and destroy the Constitution.

Notice that a Democrat (Janet 'Himmler' Napolitano) is implementing the police state via the Republican Homeland Security (aka the Gestapo)? "See something, say something" is exactly what the Gestapo did in Nazi Germany.

Neither party serves us any longer.

Is it really that hard to find representatives who will abide by the Constitution? What was this nonsense about reading it on the floor of Congress on Day One of this session, and requiring that all bills be justified in accordance with the Constitution? I guess it was just another big fat government lie.

Posted by: scoutonymous | February 9, 2011 7:56 PM | Report abuse

Time to get a petition out to our members of Congress that the Bush days are over and we Americans do not appreciate moves that threaten our civil liberties. Either we are a democratic republic or we are another police state no different than Egypt or other developing nations. Enough is enough.

Posted by: kerryberger | February 9, 2011 7:35 PM | Report abuse

From the vote we learn that Teaparty candidate, Michelle Bachman, who voted "Yes" for the secret wiretaps is not a true Teaparty candidate in favor of individual rights. She is more of a, "what's in it for me" type of representative.

Ron Paul and other Teaparty folks voted "No" to secret wiretaps.

I hope the Teaparty movement thinks about this when she seeks their votes and support as she runs for President.

If she will not support the Teaparty principles, why should the Teaparty support her?

Posted by: SCVoter | February 9, 2011 7:34 PM | Report abuse

libertarians?

Sorry libertarians...you have no party or voice in the Republican Party.

Just like the christians, the libertarians get suckered by the Republicans every time!!

The Republicans whip people up into a frenzy to steal their votes, then they leave them standing by themselves so as not to seem crazy.

Sweep the libertarians out of the way, then Republicans will get what they want.

Posted by: getcentered | February 9, 2011 7:34 PM | Report abuse

Wouldn't it be great if it failed to pass
the second time?

Posted by: roketscientist | February 9, 2011 6:40 PM | Report abuse

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