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Mark Felt Is Deep Throat?

Everyone be careful to avoid being stampeded by people saying they knew all along that Deep Throat was Mark Felt.

Actually, his name has been near the top of the list for a while. Tim Noah in Slate gives a good rundown of the recent flurry of Felt speculation. The Post's 1997 retrospective on Watergate mentioned him briefly. Washingtonian has a good summary of Deep Throat speculation that features Felt prominently. Scroll to the bottom and see what Felt told reporter Jack Limpert in 1974. Limpert asked Felt directly if he was D.T., and Felt didn't exactly say no. Felt said, "I don't think it will ever be resolved whether it was an actual person or a composite."

Felt has been fingered as D.T. by Ronald Kessler, a former Post reporter. Howie reported in February the results of an informal poll/contest, conducted by Editor & Publisher (apparently it sampled its readership), showing that only William Rehnquist topped Felt among suspected Throats. That was probably because of rumors that D.T. was dying, and Rehnquist had been suffering from such poor health. The poll results:

Rehnquist: 15%. Mark Felt: 8%. Fred Fielding: 6%. Henry Kissinger: 6%. L. Patrick Gray: 5%. George H. W. Bush: 4%. Gerald R. Ford: 3%. Pat Buchanan: 2%. Alexander Butterfield: 2%. Bob Dole: 2%. Leonard Garment: 2%. Alexander Haig: 2%. Diane Sawyer: 2%. Ben Stein: 2%. Pope John Paul
II: 2%.

A May 1, 1977 story by Woodward and Scott Armstrong mentioned Felt in passing: In a tape, Nixon refers to someone calling Felt "the White Rat," and Nixon speculates on whether Felt is Jewish.

At the moment, the newsroom is a bit abuzz about this. Bernstein won't confirm, and there's no word from Woodward or Bradlee.

The truth is, Deep Throat is more interesting as an enigma, as a Mystery Man. Uncertainty is liberating. In foggy realms our imagination and creativity are unfettered. If D.T. is just a top FBI official, it's a huge letdown. First of all, it'd be better (from a dramatic standpoint) if it was a White House insider, rather than someone in law enforcement. (Why does an FBI agent leaking to a reporter not seem as snazzy as, say, a White House lawyer having a spasm of conscience?) But no matter who D.T. is, he's more interesting when we can project onto him a personality of our choosing.

So I'm hoping this latest D.T. revelation doesn't pan out. There've been so many before (Pat Gray, Fred Fielding, etc.). If Mark Felt really is Deep Throat, all we can say is: Oh. Him. Um, now what do we do?

I still think it was Nixon himself.

[Here's the long-winded Vanity Fair story]

By Joel Achenbach  |  May 31, 2005; 12:07 PM ET
 
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The first mention of Deep Throat on the Post. Congrats. Now where is Woodward, eh?

Posted by: Anonymous | May 31, 2005 12:24 PM | Report abuse

Woodward is meeting a gravelly voiced man in a garage.

Posted by: Achenbach | May 31, 2005 12:44 PM | Report abuse

Well, Joel it does seem many Felt it was him.

Posted by: Bob Bowie | May 31, 2005 12:58 PM | Report abuse

I read a book, named Silent Coup, that laid out a convincing case that Haig was Deep Throat.

Posted by: Mike | May 31, 2005 12:59 PM | Report abuse

It's unfortunate this man did not get the accolades he deserved. Stopping the government from illegally bugging citizens is something that can never receive enough praise.

Posted by: Cliff Claven | May 31, 2005 12:59 PM | Report abuse

Um, I still thought it was Linda Lovelace.

bc

Posted by: bc | May 31, 2005 1:03 PM | Report abuse

Felt was actually indicted for authorizing illegal break-ins in the early 1970s, later pardoned by Reagan. Just speaking of accolades.

Posted by: Achenbach | May 31, 2005 1:05 PM | Report abuse

Weird that Vanity Fair breaks the story.

Posted by: chris | May 31, 2005 1:06 PM | Report abuse

you have to read to the end of the VF story. felt's family sez they approached woodward, but (paraphrasing) woodward cancelled appointments and doubted if felt had the mental facilities to understand what his family was claiming.

the VF story also says Felt agreed that selling his story in some way -- to pay for his grandkids' education -- would be a good reason for Deep Throat to break silence.

Posted by: chris k. | May 31, 2005 1:11 PM | Report abuse

i'm appalled on three counts. first, that felt would find the need to sell (and then defend) making money off of his story after all of these years under the pretense that he had misgivings about what he'd done--and then use funding for his grandchildren's education as an excuse for doing so. second, that we would pick a tacky magazine like vanity fair as the forum for making his disclosure. and, last but certainly not least, i'm apalled that it is taking the washington post, woodward and bernstein so long to confirm or deny this disclosure. every hour they wait is an embarrassment. ssuming that felt is indeed deep throat, their lack of response will be seen for exactly what it is: a sour grapes attempt to get as much publicity for themselves as possible out of the announcement now that they've been pre-empted.

Posted by: mrscissors | May 31, 2005 1:29 PM | Report abuse

Don't feel let down Joel! What do you do now? How about investigating and telling the real story about W&B's methods? It's highly likely that Deep Throat was a composite "person" who was actually several different sources. Maybe that's one of the reasons W&B have been slow to confirm this story. They may be worried that if they confirm it's Felt, then suddenly they may have other sources stepping out of the woodwork saying "wait a minute, that wasn't him, that was me..." This is a huge issue. If there really were multiple sources, then W&B conducted some shady journalism and hid their activities under the heading of protected source. While it doesn't diminish the impact they had, it certainly tarnishes their methods and makes some of their other work suspect. Why should we even suspect such an act of deceit? Well, to see suspicious journalism, one only has to look as far as Woodward's supposed deathbed visit to William Casey, former CIA director. (It's a pivotal part of his 1987 book "Vail.") Here is the rebuttal: 1) Casey's wife, who was at the hospital constantly, said the visit didn't take place. 2) There were guards posted outside of Casey's room, but no one saw Woodward visit. 3) The nurses on the floor said Casey NEVER WOKE UP from his coma the whole time he was in the hospital. (I knew one of the nurses who attended him.) So... how could Woodward have interviewed him? Most important, how could Casey ever say that he didn't? That's the real issue: Sources who can't contradict the journalist! This is the big issue with Deep Throat too. W&B have long said said they would wait until Deep Throat died before revealing who he was. Uh-oh, Mark Felt has certainly complicated things now by coming forward and saying it was him. Felt may have been the main source, but, as you mentioned in your first post in this string, Felt himself once told a reporter that he thought Deep Throat was a composite person. There's your story right there Joel. THAT is "what you do now."

Posted by: No longer inside the beltway | May 31, 2005 1:33 PM | Report abuse

What is currently more relevent--Who's Deep Throat or Who Shot JR?

Posted by: Chris | May 31, 2005 1:54 PM | Report abuse

Wonder if anyone outside the beltway even gives a rat's patootie...I work inside the beltway and live outside, and even I'm having trouble, after 30 years, caring who DT really is/was. In the end, he/she (how come, besides Diane Sawyer, no females are on that list?) helped save the country and the presidency, so except for putting a lid on the whole terrible time in our history, who cares who it was?

Posted by: Zippy the other pinhead | May 31, 2005 1:56 PM | Report abuse

Here's the operative paragraph: Joan and Mark junior [Felt's children] urged him to go public, explaining that they wanted his legacy to be heroic and permanent, not anonymous, and adding that perhaps he could profit from his revelations. Felt argued with them, saying he didn't want the story out there. Joan recalls saying: "Bob Woodward's gonna get all the glory for this, but we could make at least enough money to pay some bills, like the debt I've run up for the kids' education. Let's do it for the family."

The kids are pressuring Felt to do it for them, for the money.

I don't believe Felt is Deep Throat. I agree the book "Silent Coup" makes a compelling case for Alexander Haig

Posted by: Hank | May 31, 2005 1:58 PM | Report abuse

what can we do now that D.T. has been revealed? Simple: let's find out who really killed JFK.

Posted by: Grassy Knoll | May 31, 2005 1:58 PM | Report abuse

Yes, Felt was always near the top of the list, but none of those on it really fit the mold provided by All the President's Men. DT was no one, not even a composite. He was a lot of free-floating scraps of information and Woodstein's collective hunch of the moment. Ben Bradlee let them get away with it. What a break for all of us.

Posted by: rob in dc | May 31, 2005 2:04 PM | Report abuse

This doesn't smell right to me, his kids are pressuring a senile man to say this, to get them money. Several times people have come out to proclaim they figured DT out, and so far none of them has been right (and sometimes ridiculous). I'll believe it if and when Woodward confirms.

Fielding is the most likely candidate in my eyes, a guy who would have known a lot, been sympathetic to Dean, but low profile enough figure that he wasn't involved in the actual crime.

And Silent Coup was a horrible book.

Posted by: Lee | May 31, 2005 2:16 PM | Report abuse

As a journalist working at a foreign desk in a Finnish newspaper I find the personality of DT highly interesting. I must cover the story in couple of hours although I'm not convinced myself. So, keep digging, collegues!

Posted by: SK | May 31, 2005 2:16 PM | Report abuse

To: Zippy the other pinhead.

Believe it or not, losers like me outside The Beltway really do care about who D.T. is/was. Although many of us were hoping that it really was Hal Halbrook....

Posted by: B&W outside the BW | May 31, 2005 2:18 PM | Report abuse

Achenbach, you need to do that cache-clearing thing again. I had trouble calling up this blog entry.

Posted by: The Real Deep Throat | May 31, 2005 2:18 PM | Report abuse

Woodward and Bernstein are able to refute that a person is Deep Throat, aren't they? I mean, if someone who is not Deep Throat claimed that he was, then they could deny it. Yet they aren't.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 31, 2005 2:19 PM | Report abuse

Halbrook, Holbrook... let's call the whole thing off.

Posted by: B&W outside the BW | May 31, 2005 2:19 PM | Report abuse

Ask Ben, Bob and Carl if a man on his death-bed count?

Posted by: Jack the Throat | May 31, 2005 2:19 PM | Report abuse

There are no other women on the list because Woodward and Bernstein have in fact publically confirmed that Deep Throat was a man and not a woman. They ruled out Diane Sawyer. They have always said that the way they described Deep Throat (physically) in their book is accurate.

Posted by: spygirl | May 31, 2005 2:22 PM | Report abuse

It seems to me that if a person reveals that they are a source in a story themselves, that the journalists no longer have a reason, need or obligation to protect them. Hence, if Felt was Deep Throat, they could confirm it. Since they didn't confirm it, Felt isn't Deep Throat.

Posted by: Deep Throat | May 31, 2005 2:25 PM | Report abuse

Felt isn't Deep Throat. The reason why W&B will neither deny nor confirm Felt as DT is because they said they would not reveal any details about DT until he is dead. So,DT is not dead. And Felt needed some money.

Posted by: True Washingtonian-->Seattlite | May 31, 2005 2:28 PM | Report abuse

To the best of my knowledge, Woodward has only confirmed that one person is NOT Deep Throat -- Michael Eisner.

I suspect that a number of documents currently in locked storage will remain in locked storage until the DT obit appears in the Washington Post, front page and above the fold. Some will probably accept a facsimile of the newspaper headline.

Until that time, I thankfully accept the joint "no comments" that are issued by the official keepers of the secret.

Posted by: Dave in Chicago | May 31, 2005 2:29 PM | Report abuse

For a man to come out and say he's D.T. when he's not D.T. would be more embarassing than being D.T.

Woodstein will have the final say on this matter.

Posted by: Felt Like DT | May 31, 2005 2:38 PM | Report abuse

The best part of the Vanity Fair piece was that it starts with Felt's daughter (who does come across as a bit of a gold-digger) answering the door for Woodward, and she has NO IDEA who he is.

I was born several years after the Watergate scandal, and I have known who Woodward is for as long as I can remember. You'd think if your father was on the shortlist of people suspected to be Deep Throat, you would have at least an elementary knowledge of the Watergate scandal.

The Post's silence on this subject is hilarious. Loved that every podunk paper in America had this on their website before the Post did.

Posted by: Sara in DC | May 31, 2005 2:40 PM | Report abuse

podunk paper: like the New York Times?

Posted by: silence is..... | May 31, 2005 2:42 PM | Report abuse

Oh... Al Haig is also confirmed as not DT.

Posted by: Dave in Chicago | May 31, 2005 2:52 PM | Report abuse

can't see an in-charge guy like Haig as D.T.

Posted by: Nada Haig | May 31, 2005 2:54 PM | Report abuse

(quote)
Well, Joel it does seem many Felt it was him.

Posted by: Bob Bowie | May 31, 2005 12:58 PM
(/quote)

In keeping with an old Usenet tradition, I need an Irish bar created by Spider Robinson, a large glass of Bushmills, and a fireplace to throw the glass in after downing the draft.

That was terrible (grin).

Posted by: Bruce -- Harper Blue | May 31, 2005 2:54 PM | Report abuse

I am Deep Throat!

Posted by: Spartacus | May 31, 2005 2:58 PM | Report abuse

Woodstein have, in the past, refused to deny that someone was DT on the theory that if they continued to deny that various people were DT, eventually, DT's actual identity would be obvious. I think the fact that they are refusing to confirm is an indication that either they don't believe this is coming from a mentally competent Felt or Felt is not DT.

Posted by: txpd | May 31, 2005 3:07 PM | Report abuse

"Silent Coup" makes a convincing case that Woodward knew Haig. That's all. To make a case that Haig is Deep Throat, they would have to establish that Haig had access to CREEP, and Colodny and Gettlin don't even TRY to make that assertion.

I'm kinda leaning toward believing Felt. It just seems to fit....

Posted by: Mike | May 31, 2005 3:10 PM | Report abuse

You guys kill me....you want to know who Deep Throat is, just ask your bosses at the Post.

Posted by: Whatever | May 31, 2005 3:13 PM | Report abuse

There was no "Deep Throat." The liberal and biased reporters/editors at the Washington Post only created this mythical figure to cover their shoddy reporting and asses.

Posted by: Jeff Gannon | May 31, 2005 3:15 PM | Report abuse

Woodstein may hold true to their commitment: Mum's the word on D.T. until Bradlee's obit on D.T. hits the newstands.

Posted by: Homer | May 31, 2005 3:15 PM | Report abuse

That's HOT!

Posted by: Paris Hilton | May 31, 2005 3:20 PM | Report abuse

Paris, you're a scream.

Holbrook wore a trench coat in ATPM - The Movie. That clinches it, DT was from da Federah Beurah.

Posted by: Greek Shipping Tycoon | May 31, 2005 3:24 PM | Report abuse

Jeff Gannon is still bitter that Tricky Dick was forced to resign. The real question is who is James Guckert, speaking of pornographic associations.

All speculation and motive-mining aside, the only way to be sure of Deep Throat's identity or even his facticity is when the obituary is published by the Washington Post. Other than DT himself, only Woodstein and Bradlee know his identity.

Posted by: peter | May 31, 2005 3:27 PM | Report abuse

No way, Redford was much better looking than Woodward and Hoffman didn't grow his hair long enough to look like Bernstein. The whole D.T. thing's a scam.

Posted by: Onasis Part Deux | May 31, 2005 3:27 PM | Report abuse

L. Ron Hubbard said that there are only two tests of a life well lived: Did one do as one intended? And were people glad one lived?

Posted by: Tom Cruise | May 31, 2005 3:29 PM | Report abuse

What a time for retrospective: Ben Bradlee, the man who gave honor to his profession alongside Katie Graham. Bob Woodward, the career journalist who is still cultivating sources and serving his readers. Mark Felt, the American hero nearing his death bed. And, oh yeah, Bernstein - the guy who never will be forced to live vicariously through "All the President's Men" until he, too, is on his death bed.

Posted by: Red Velvet | May 31, 2005 3:31 PM | Report abuse

Who was "DeepThroat"? This seemed like an important question . . . about 1985. Now, Nixon is gone. The Societ Union is gone. East Germany and divided Berlin are gone. The Cold War itself is gone. Even Reagan is gone. The Chinese are into cellphones and building Wal-Marts. The world has changed and moved on from Watergate, which ruined the press by making what were ink-stained wretches think they could be stars, brand names like Woodstein. That is one reason the media is so out of touch today. History will remember the Watergate period as the "Age of Nixon," not the "Age of Felt." I am not a Nixonian. I always voted against him. As my grantmother used to sat "His head is not shaped right." She did not know how right she was. As she said, his head was not shaped right, but on the inside. Nevertheless, I recognize his historial greatness. Who was "Deep Throat"? Who, besides Larry King who will four-wall this, cares?

Posted by: Joe McNulty | May 31, 2005 3:33 PM | Report abuse

I might be among the earliest to label Mark Felt as Deep Throat - in a college paper, of which I still have the original (I'm 52 now). It was for a class on the politics of the bureaucracy at UCLA. I explained that Felt, as a life-long bureaucrat, had the most to grain from leaking: to protect the integrity of the agency from being corrupted by L. Patrick Gray, Nixon's hand-picked henchman, who steered the FBI away from the White House.

I can prove it - I still have the original, typed paper.

Posted by: Clyde Weiss | May 31, 2005 3:45 PM | Report abuse

Which one of them lived in Bethesda? Heard an interesting rumor about that.

Anyway, too quick to jump the gun here--Felt is 91 and clearly could've had $ for his kids far earlier. Could be him, yes, but not necessarily is.

And I agree with W and B holding back. You give your word then you stick to it. That's what they're doing and that's what is the right thing to do.

As for people caring, well as a 22 year old recent college graduate, I've been fascinated by the story and grew up outside the beltway although I work within it now.

Posted by: Bryan | May 31, 2005 3:47 PM | Report abuse

read the article:

http://www.vanityfair.com/pdf/pressroom/advance1.pdf

Posted by: Vanity Fair | May 31, 2005 3:49 PM | Report abuse

I won't deny that Felt certainly fits the profile, but so do another dozen on the short list of Deep Throat possibilities.

Why would DT ask Woodward and Bernstein to not release his name until he was dead, only to do it himself? And why would he go to Vanity Fair, of all things?

Still no word from Woodward on this, and until he, Bernstein or Ben Bradlee say something, I'm going to remain very sceptical.

Posted by: Theresa | May 31, 2005 3:50 PM | Report abuse

Felt needs to provide specific details about his rendezvous' with Woodward (if he can remember)in the VF article or in his upcoming best seller (see: "Family Needs Money"). It's one thing to say "I'm DT", but it's another to say "I'm DT, and here's proof..."

Posted by: Show Me The Yen | May 31, 2005 3:58 PM | Report abuse

I read the VF article and thought the writing was, in a word, dreadful. The author isn't a writer by training, but rather an attorney. I can only imagine the editor at VF tearing his or her hair out trying to make this piece into something readable.

Posted by: Hillary | May 31, 2005 4:02 PM | Report abuse

Ho Hum = We got scooped on our rightful story.

Posted by: Jim | May 31, 2005 4:06 PM | Report abuse

Believe it was Woodward who offered secrecy until death (as opposed to DT asking for it) as part of a reporter's mantra to not reveal an anonymous source. As long as DT wished to remain anonymous, then Woodward was going to keep his mouth shut (except for telling Bernstein and Bradlee). Once you reveal an anonymous source you lose all credibility as a trustworthy reporter, even for the one or two that are trustworty today.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 31, 2005 4:13 PM | Report abuse

Jim: Scooped on our story? Excuse me, WE KNOW WHO DEEP THROAT IS. HE IS OUR CONFIDENTIAL SOURCE. WE HAVE INTENTIONALLY NOT IDENTIFIED HIM BECAUSE THAT IS WHAT CONFIDENTIAL MEANS. OK, admittedly I am using "we" rather liberally here.

Posted by: Achenbach | May 31, 2005 4:16 PM | Report abuse

Just checked out a few pieces on Felt on the Web and found one that mentions he lives on a street named Redford.
Is this a great country or what?

Posted by: cue the spooky music | May 31, 2005 4:22 PM | Report abuse

Hey, Joel, why'd you disappear the very funny "Sally Quinn" post? Tom Cruise's and Paris Hilton's are still there - a little too close to home?

Posted by: Leon Trotsky | May 31, 2005 4:23 PM | Report abuse

Will you guys knock off the horseplay and get back to work ?

Posted by: Ben Bradlee | May 31, 2005 4:23 PM | Report abuse

Vanity Fair did the story?? Clearly, DT is therefore Domminick Dunne.

Posted by: just me | May 31, 2005 4:43 PM | Report abuse

Young Felt in the VF article looks like Phil Mickelson.

Posted by: Jack Trevino | May 31, 2005 4:49 PM | Report abuse

The Sally post wasn't the slightest bit funny. That's why I disappeared it.

Posted by: Achenbach | May 31, 2005 5:23 PM | Report abuse

I knew it. I just knew it.

Posted by: Richard Nixon | May 31, 2005 6:04 PM | Report abuse

All you guys saying that you don't believe that Felt is the guy....Grow up allready! It doesn't matter much if he is the guy or not, Nixon is still a crook and if deep throat had a hand in helping him to leave, that was a good thing for our country.

Posted by: The protector | May 31, 2005 7:09 PM | Report abuse

Are all neo-conservatives this freaking paranoid, of course the guy is Deep Throat! I thought you guys might get over this Nixon thing after all this time....

Posted by: Still Smoking | May 31, 2005 7:16 PM | Report abuse

Thus ends the speculation:

"The Washington Post said Tuesday that a former
FBI official, W. Mark Felt, was the confidential source known as "Deep Throat" who provided the newspaper information that led to President Nixon's impeachment investigation and eventual resignation.

The paper made its announcement on its Web site after Felt, 91 and living in California, talked to a lawyer who wrote a magazine article for Vanity Fair."

Posted by: Opinionated Bastard | May 31, 2005 7:18 PM | Report abuse

I'm much more concerned about all those young men and women dying overseas, not much has changed since Deep Throats time.

Posted by: Ashamed in the heartland | May 31, 2005 7:21 PM | Report abuse

I'm so upset....With a name like DT, would have thought that O'Reilly broke the story....

Posted by: Ludicris | May 31, 2005 7:24 PM | Report abuse

So what? It's a bit anti-climatic at this point. Reminds me of the fools who wanted to dig up Zachary Taylor to see if he was poisoned, who was gonna get prosecuted for that one? Let's not lose our common sense in this country, we allready spent too much time on this thing!

Posted by: Madder "N" Hell | May 31, 2005 7:28 PM | Report abuse

The Sally Quinn post WAS funny.

Posted by: sj | May 31, 2005 7:43 PM | Report abuse

I knew it wasn't Buchanan, he does haven't the personal courage to turn in lawbreakers, especially if they are republicans

Posted by: I was right | May 31, 2005 8:53 PM | Report abuse

WHO CARES??

Posted by: DEEZ NUTZ | May 31, 2005 10:41 PM | Report abuse

It seems to me, that George W Bush tells just as many lies as Nixon did; so many, that the media ignores his lying idiosyncracy.
And very little is written about the "voting machines" irregularities, that occurred in "Ohio." The ones that got him the presidency.

Posted by: Jonathan | May 31, 2005 11:21 PM | Report abuse

Help me to understand something.

Those of you who post on here to ask who cares, are doing the same thing as the rest of us.

Which is worse, spending time to read allt hese posts becasue you're interested....or because you're not interested and just want to tell the other people so.

I would think that disinterested people who so obnoxiously bother everyone else would not be wasting their time on this.

Posted by: Theresa | May 31, 2005 11:23 PM | Report abuse

Why don't you guys say Felt is Jewish?

Posted by: Joe | June 1, 2005 12:45 AM | Report abuse

i think you are on crack...nixon is deep throat? uhh...whatever

Posted by: DT | June 1, 2005 1:53 AM | Report abuse

Is Joan Felt now going to haul her elderly father to talk shows or what? It's evident that the old guy did not want to reveal his identity or make money off of his activities. In his present debility he will not be able to provide much information. Leave him in peace and don't exploit him. I'm guessing W and B's hesitancy was because they wanted to honor Mr. Felt's wishes when he was able to think clearly.

Posted by: Carole | June 1, 2005 5:22 AM | Report abuse

Thank You, Mr. Felt!

After all the years, there is finally a name and a face to say "Thank You" to!!

Posted by: VictimofNixonandinjusticewar | June 1, 2005 7:00 AM | Report abuse

I was a student at Jacksonville State University during the Watergate period and followed the events that unfolded. I have no doubt in my mind that Felt is Deep Throat. I think he did the right thing by coming forward before he died so it could be proved, and finally laid to rest.

Posted by: mekaeight | June 1, 2005 7:51 AM | Report abuse

Well, is he? Jewish I mean

Posted by: Al | June 1, 2005 9:16 AM | Report abuse

The Post can print any hogwash it wants and people will believe it. Same goes for Newsweek. I get all my really important news from supermarket tabloids.

I had a sociology prof. at AU who claimed the VietNam war never happened -- She said it was actually fabricated to sell newspapers. I think that woman was on hallucinogenic drugs. Just ask any Viet vet if the war really happened.

Posted by: WASP | June 1, 2005 1:18 PM | Report abuse

The Post can print any hogwash it wants and people will believe it. Same goes for Newsweek. I get all my really important news from supermarket tabloids.

I had a sociology prof. at AU who claimed the VietNam war never happened -- She said it was actually fabricated to sell newspapers. I think that woman was on hallucinogenic drugs. Just ask any Viet vet if the war really happened.

Posted by: WASP | June 1, 2005 1:19 PM | Report abuse

The sinister plot thickens, as Felt was passed over by Nixon for top FBI command. Nixon and company believed Felt to be Jewish and Nixon had problems with so many Jewish persons in top Govt levels. Hoover and Johnson were very tight pals and lived next door to each other in DC. Each had close associations to oil billionaire Clint Merchison in Texas, where a party hosted LBJ telling the DOB JFK was not going to bother him any longer. Felt being tight with Hoover also clued him into the deepest throat story of all on the Zionist associated hit on JFK. Felt got a large number of Hoover's secret files upon his death. Felt wanted the lead position in the FBI to keep the cover up going on JFK. They hated Robert Kennedy for telling Hoover to resign. Felt took out Nixon softly for the same reasons as JFK was taken out. Greed and Power corrupt absolutely. Mark Felt and others likely need to be in prison, as a large number of the FBI upper levels all know the Zionism thing played a major role in the death of a president and divided loyalties.

Posted by: Sleepers | June 2, 2005 9:52 AM | Report abuse

Yes, the covert games of Mark Felt were really about putting Warren Commission lackie Gerald R. Ford into the President's spot. As Nixon was not playing Hoover's games too well, and were becoming overly concerned of all the "Jew Boys" in the high Govt. positions in Washington. The house of cards in a highly involved high level cover up were about to come tumbling down and take out not only the FBI, but half the highest ranking people in DC, including LBJ, Ford, Hoover, Earl Warren,etc. Nixon pushed for the RICO Act, which Robert Kennedy wanted to take on organize crime, which was high Jewish controlled. The giant scandal that Mark Felt sought to dodge was only one click away from being exposed by Nixon to keep his spot in power. Just like Zapruder knew where to stand to get the prime shots with 8mm tape, which made his kids millionaires, so these Felt kids seek the same riches. Riches for keeping real dirt in high places concealed. The whole story on Mark Felt's motives and opportunities have yet to be told, even by the very helpful toward the bigger DC cover up Woodward and "Bernstein."

http://www.crimelibrary.com/gangsters_outlaws/cops_others/hoover/12.html?sect=
18

Posted by: Sleepers | June 2, 2005 11:59 AM | Report abuse

There would be no debate about this at all, if Nixon were not a crook. He was, he covered up the thing, made an enemies list, kept the war going, lied about it all. If anybody became a snitch as a result, the beginning of it all can be laid at the feet of Richard Milhous Nixon and those of his cronies that did not have the personal courage to say no to unabated law breaking. Period. And stop all this Zionist Jewish crap. Nixon was a quaker and he single handedly brought down the government himself. Just goes to prove that bad men come in all religions, colors and party affiliations.

Posted by: keep it real | June 2, 2005 1:43 PM | Report abuse

Mark Felt coming out of his closet appears to lead toward heads to roll in DC. Nixon's big fear on Watergate was if the DNC had the goods on his connection with the JFK set up. Nixon was in Dallas at the Pepsi convention, which helped to mix up JFK's appearance schedules and other factors that lead to his extra time for the ride down the streets of Dallas without the Limo's top on to challenge Nixon's comment on how well he was liked there in Dallas.

And there appears more to the sorted story that pulls in Bush-41 and lots of others:

http://rense.com/general65/skol75.htm

A well-documented book takes Bob Woodward to task as not telling the public a
complete story of how he supposedly got into the Watergate Affair. See,
"Silent Coup: The Removal of A President" by Len Colodny and Robert Gettlin, St.
Martin's Press, Inc., 1991. Bob Woodward's supposed story of how he got involved
with Mark Felt of the FBI is likewise incomplete and dodges all kinds of
necessary details. See Woodward's story, Washington Post, June 2, 2005.

Bob Woodward went to Yale University as a history major near the time that
George W. Bush, likewise a supposed history major, went there. Is Woodward, like
Bush, a member of the Skull and Bastards Society meeting for satanic
homosexual rituals in a windowless building at Yale, called "The Tomb" ?

What recently prompted George W. Bush to permit Bob Woodward to interview
Bush at length in the White House? Woodward,, a supposed author of several books,
apparently has his books "ghost-written".

Posted by: Sleepers | June 2, 2005 1:49 PM | Report abuse

Some guy named "Darrick Tenderlove" - a washed-up gay pornstar with rightwing political leanings - claimed last night on a radio show in northern California, KVMR(www.kvmr.org) to be the "real" DT, a mechanic whose expertise at installing "monster truck tires" on White House limousines put him in touch with the corridors of power and claims now that Mark Felt never paid his bill for services rendered (the tires, one assumes). Needless to say, I believed every word of it the moment I heard it.

Posted by: edgewordwise | June 3, 2005 1:37 PM | Report abuse

This is awesome.

Posted by: Tom fan | June 3, 2005 2:27 PM | Report abuse

Interesting,

It would appear that ole Woodward and Bernstein played a role not unlike the shooters in the JFK assassination to get LBJ in place, except this time it was Ford.

The choice of Woodward and Bernstein's "Deep Throat" term is even more interesting. Hoover was supposed to be homosexual and Nixon's nickname was "Tricky Dick," which seems to suggest someone somewhere being used and abused along the lines of Linda L's problem in looking for satisfaction. Just who was DT doing?

Then when we get to watch Oliver Stone's movie on JFK and the nice gay photos that David Ferrie and the Trade Mart person Garrsion tried to prosecute sent up to DC to black mail Hoover into helping in the JFK cover up. Hoover knew if the news of his homosexual bias came out, all those secret black mail files he kept on everyone would not help. He knew he had to play LBJ's and Clint Merchison's game, the same game Hoover played far too often.

Nixon has long been a crook, since the time he broke into the Dean's Office at Duke to fix his grades in Law School. Most of the US Congress is not much better and they are mostly like a lot of used car salemen seeking their next high commission for unloading a load of corporate control on the citizens.

JFK's Dad fixed the election wins in places like Chicago with his Mafia connections, and nothing really changed with Nixon. LBJ was about to be charged with all kinds of crimes, when the shooting of JFK went down in Dallas.

The US is being run by a bunch of crooks ever since. Woodward, Bernstein, and their DT "Felt" buddy have a lot of explaining to do because their basic intentions appear very similar to the Dallas shooters job on JFK. Nixon shut down LBJ's big Vietnam war and cost all those Texas Lockheed-Martin, Halliburtons, and Brown-Root lots of money. JFK was going to do the same. Plus off Israel's big nuke plans.

Nixon's plumbers had access to lots of pay off money from places like Howard Hughes and his antinuclear test efforts in Nevada. Cuban BB Rebozo has a safe full of money to pass out for Nixon.

Then Warren Comission Ford comes along to save the day and pardon's Nixon so all the huge scams won't come out. How nice---checkmate.

All these Bonesmen with these homosexual ritual games in caskets going on in DC still to grease political intimidations.

Posted by: Sleepers | June 3, 2005 5:23 PM | Report abuse

The higher up one goes in DC, the more likely one finds a crook. Especially in the White House.

In example:
Can you imagine working for a company that has a little more than 500
employees and has the following statistics:

29 have been accused of spousal abuse

7 have been arrested for fraud

19 have been accused of writing bad checks

117 have directly or indirectly bankrupted at least 2 businesses

3 have done time for assault

71 cannot get a credit card due to bad credit

14 have been arrested on drug-related charges

8 have been arrested for shoplifting

21 are currently defendants in lawsuits

84 have been arrested for drunk driving in the last year

Can you guess which organization this is?


Give up yet?
It's the 535 member United States Congress (House & Senate).

Posted by: Sleepers | June 3, 2005 5:31 PM | Report abuse

Lots of people think Woodward and Bernstein, their old stomping ground the W. Post, and their finacial backers have a lot of explaining to do.

Another example:
http://rense.com/general65/makk.htm

Watergate was a coup d'etat. Felt's true role is to deflect attention from the CIA. The family of central banker Eugene Meyer owns The Washington Post, which has long established ties to the CIA.

According to Webster Tarpley and Anton Chaitkin (The Unauthorized Biography of George Bush): "The reason the Watergate scandal escalated into the overthrow of Nixon has to do with the international monetary crisis of those years, and with Nixon's inability to manage the collapse of the Bretton Woods system and the US dollar in a way satisfactory to the Anglo-American financial elite...


Until 1972, Richard Nixon had been a compliant pawn of the Rothschild-Rockefeller cabal. In 1947, he answered an ad placed by some powerful businessmen looking for someone to run for Congress. The advertiser was none other than Prescott Bush, grandfather of Dubya, and a partner in Rothschild banking asset Brown Brothers Harriman.

After his humiliating defeat to California Governor Pat Brown in 1962, Nixon worked for John Mitchell, Nelson Rockefeller's personal attorney and lived rent-free in a posh apartment owned by Nelson Rockefeller. His job was to become President in 1968 when, to the consternation of his conservative supporters, he pursued Rockefeller's "internationalist" polices.

The bankers pulled the plug on Nixon because he was becoming unmanageable. Already before 1972, Nixon is heard on tape agreeing with Billy Graham that something had to be done about the "Jewish stranglehold" on the mass media or the "country will go down the drain." He also referred to elite-party-place Bohemian Grove as "the most faggy goddamn thing I've ever seen".

Houghton obtained a memo under the Freedom of Information Act in which Bennett admits he is briefing Bob Woodward. "Woodward's gratefulness was manifest in the way he kept the CIA, in general, and the Robert R. Mullen Company, in particular, out of his stories."


If we count the Kennedy Assasination, the impeachment of Richard Nixon was the second coup d'etat by the central bankers in a dozen years. They were steps leading to their attack on the World Trade Centre and the inception of the repressive Patriot Act.

Last week, the "free press" earned the title "Deep Throat" by demonstrating that, for a small price, it would swallow anything.

The carefully staged event illustrates how far it has gone from being guardian of the public interest to being an instrument of mass deception and social control. In the New World Order, traitors like Bob Woodward and Mark Felt are "heroes" while our defenders like Richard Nixon are defamed.

Posted by: Sleepers | June 4, 2005 2:14 PM | Report abuse

Felt and his Wash Post helpers wanted Nixon gone because he kept pulling the FBI into exposing itself on its CIA cooperation and reopening the JFK cover up.

http://www.ajweberman.com/nodules/nodule22.htm

Posted by: Sleepers | June 5, 2005 6:03 PM | Report abuse

What happened to the theory that the Watergate break-in had nothing to do with President Nixon but was a personal enterprise by John W. Dean to protect his then-girlfriend Maureen by removing information that linked her to a call-girl ring run out of the Democratic National Committee headquarters in the Watergate?
See: [url=http://deepthroat.name/content/view/129/2/]http://deepthroat.name/content/view/129/2/[/url]

Posted by: JD | July 19, 2005 2:31 PM | Report abuse

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