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Deadeye Dick Cheney

   As you know, quail hunting is what passes for military service in the upper ranks of the Bush Administration. Dick Cheney knows what it is like to fire a weapon in anger, particularly when the birds flush from the bracken unexpectedly. George W. Bush has flown airplanes, many of them folded from his personal stationery. Donald Rumsfeld has piloted boats and submarines through seemingly impenetrable mounds of suds. And so on.

    Now, as you have surely heard by now, the Vice President this weekend had a slight mishap while hunting, in that he committed the faux pas of pointing his shotgun in the direction of a friend of his. Also he pulled the trigger. Sort of, you know, shot the guy. In the face. "Peppered" him, in the quaint vernacular of the sport. The fellow is doing fine at the hospital. But right here's what's wrong with the mainstream media: The stories don't tell us whether Cheney managed, in the process, to bag the bird. Seems to me that our sense of the man's overall competence pivots on that crucial unreported factoid. Who cares about his friend, did he hit the target???

    I find the story reassuring. Cheney is a man who doesn't just talk the talk. No, if he's going to send American soldiers into harm's way, where they might be shot at any moment by a deranged fanatic, he's also going to do the same thing to his close personal friends. He's giving his hunting buddies a taste of life in the Cheney Era, when you count yourself lucky just to get out alive. 

By Joel Achenbach  |  February 12, 2006; 5:53 PM ET
 
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Perhaps Harry Whittington is really a dyslexic Secret Service agent who confused taking a bullet for the Vice President with taking a bullet from the Vice President.

Posted by: RD Padouk | February 12, 2006 6:15 PM | Report abuse

Can't help but wonder how this story would have broken and what the reaction would have been if Deadeye Dick was a woman, or black or hispanic. I'm sure he woudn't have walked away scot-free with an aw-shucks slap on the back. Only in America.

Posted by: Shelley | February 12, 2006 6:22 PM | Report abuse

Priceless!

bdl

Posted by: boondocklurker | February 12, 2006 6:24 PM | Report abuse

Cheney's Got A Gun...Cheney's Got A Gun...What had the Lawyer Done? Run Away Run Away!

Good thing he shot a fellow Republican!

Posted by: Kevin | February 12, 2006 6:25 PM | Report abuse

Cheney's Got A Gun...Cheney's Got A Gun...What had the Lawyer Done? Run Away Run Away!

Good thing he shot a fellow Republican!

Posted by: Kevin | February 12, 2006 6:25 PM | Report abuse

Hawks of a feather flock together.

If anyone can find the corpus de ave de rapina (codorniz) de Cheney, someone ought to give Cheney the bird.

Posted by: Loomis | February 12, 2006 6:26 PM | Report abuse

Perhaps he also stole the man's suit in order to pay for healthcare that the $10,001 income man wouldn't qualify for, while giving himself a tax cut? My hero.

Posted by: Doug | February 12, 2006 6:27 PM | Report abuse

He was a hero in error, I'll bet.

Posted by: Iddybud (Jude) | February 12, 2006 6:30 PM | Report abuse

Does this mean Fiona won't get a valentine?

Posted by: Shiloh | February 12, 2006 6:33 PM | Report abuse

Under executive privilege, it's legal for the VP to shoot a friend. I heard that the friend agreed that it would have been OK for Dick to torture him as well.

Posted by: G$ | February 12, 2006 6:34 PM | Report abuse

I'm curious.
In what branch of the service did you serve?

Posted by: Hall | February 12, 2006 6:35 PM | Report abuse

But I bet the quail was relieved.

Posted by: RD Padouk | February 12, 2006 6:35 PM | Report abuse

Bush and Cheney's illegal war for oil in Iraq continues only because of the jingoistic flag-waving of the corporate controlled media like the Washington Post. Bush and Cheney Lies and People Dies.

The neocons based their illegal war for oil in Iraq in part on the official propaganda of 9/11. The really cool progressives do not accept the corporate controlled media propaganda of 19 hijackers and jet airplanes. There are many really cool progressive Web sites that show it was squib charges and holograms used on 9/11.

As long as us really cool progressives keep up with our really cool Internet postings to let the world know the truth, I would have to assume that we will in fact stop the illegal war in Iraq, have Rummy and Bush and Cheney arrested as war criminals, force Halliburton to give all of their illegal war profits to the Free Mumia Abu-Jamal fund, and overturn the marijuana laws in the U.S.

Posted by: Scott Laughrey | February 12, 2006 6:36 PM | Report abuse

Shooting someone who was not stalking you seems like a metaphor for Iraq.

Posted by: Shiloh | February 12, 2006 6:37 PM | Report abuse

Years ago Gov. George W. Bush appointed Whittington to the Texas Funeral Service Commission. 'nuff said.

Posted by: RD Padouk | February 12, 2006 6:40 PM | Report abuse

Still trying to figure out 6:36:23.

The weirdest thing about the Cheyney bushwacking was that his people sat on the story for a day--and the chief spokesperson for the incident appears to be the woman who owns the ranch. How weird is that? The VP of the U.S. shoots somebody and it doesn't enter the news cycle for oh, a day or two?

Posted by: Curmudgeon | February 12, 2006 6:44 PM | Report abuse

Who does Cheney think he is, Aaron Burr?

Posted by: Regan O'Neil | February 12, 2006 6:44 PM | Report abuse

The National Rifle Association and hunters organizations should be proud. Cheney did the envrionmentally responsible thing by trying to help thin the herd of Texas Republican millionaires. Since 2001 their numbers have been mushrooming because of the removal of those natural forces that tend to keep them in check: ethics, fair election laws, equitable taxation and so on. Thanks for the effort, Dick.

Posted by: Steve C | February 12, 2006 6:47 PM | Report abuse

Seriously, this was a potentially tragic accident involving an innocent senior citizen. But come on. Cheney is the guy who makes such a big deal about keeping all of us, you know, safe...

Posted by: RD Padouk | February 12, 2006 6:56 PM | Report abuse

You've got a good point, Mudge. I was interested in the Ranch owner spokesperson, too. How was the meal? It sounded delicious. Next time let us know ahead of time so we can join you. (Not from 900 miles away, not to worry.)

bdl

Posted by: bdl | February 12, 2006 7:01 PM | Report abuse

And I remember when the most dangerous thing around Bush was a pretzel.
OK. I'm done now....

Posted by: RD Padouk | February 12, 2006 7:05 PM | Report abuse

Wait a week or so. If this plays out like so many stories about the Bush Administration, the guy who Cheney shot will turn out to be a high-ranking aide to Bin Laden.

Posted by: Jon | February 12, 2006 7:09 PM | Report abuse

>Still trying to figure out 6:36:23.

I guess when it's established as a fact that the architect of our incompetent adventure in Iraq actually can't shoot straight you have to pretend people are making up their own version of the truth. Then you can try to mock them and feel better about yourself. After all, the 60% of people who don't like the way things are going are clearly out of the mainstream.

This never happens when Scalia's there.

Posted by: asdg | February 12, 2006 7:13 PM | Report abuse


I hope Mrs Kings work, life and legacy will not turn into a nightmare like the DREAM OF her late husband.

Example: Since Dr. Martin Luther King Jr., was murdered in Memphis Tennessee nearly four decades ago. His dream, seem to have become a nightmare and though he was seen as a great prophet, civil rights leader, Nobel peace prize winner and ambassador for justice around the world.

Too many Americans are placating his accomplishments, memory, image, legacy, and easily digested speeches without personal commitment in their own communities. And have allowed a system of complexion protection and money collection to continue even in his home state of Georgia.

There is a street only six blocks long in Valdosta named in Dr. Martin L. King Jr., honor located in the Black community. It is an eternal flame and constant reminder of how King Dream has become a nightmare. Even though, Valdosta is fifty-two percent Black with eleven governmental department heads, and the county has twelve department heads. However, of the twenty-three department heads only two are Black as of 1 August 2005. So where is the dream?

In May 2005, fifteen local citizens were arrested while addressing their elected officials on a civil rights issue. But the local news media refuse to report the concerns of the meeting two the public.

Many local schools are still segregated by race, rich, and poor. The number of Black teachers in our local school system for whatever reason is too few. It is sad, that out of nine city schools only one is named in honor of a Black African American.

Moreover, the disparity of Black professors at Valdosta State University for whatever reason is a disgrace to our community and the living wage for manual laborers need immediate attention. So what happened to the Dream?

Many elected officials and major civil rights organizations seem to have buried their head in the sand like the legend concerning the ostrich. As they ignore the problems remaining across our nation that Dr. King dedicated much of his life trying to resolve.

Lowndes County Jailed Inmates have petitioned their elected officials for over sixteen years to no avail concerning abuse, inhumane, unsanitary conditions, and the many deaths that have occurred for whatever reason in or surrounding the jail, and the alleged denial of their constitutional rights...

However, these American citizens have been ignored. Many of whom are American Veterans who served their country with honor, distinction, pride, and great personal sacrifice.

So where are the people who plan, coordinate and attends Dr. Kings yearly Birthday party but absent when citizens are in need. We must, not be fooled by ceremonies, banquets, marches, Willie Lynch tricks, eloquent speeches, dedicating buildings, and throwing balloons up into the air and catching them in a silver spoon in Kings Honor.

King was not about things! But people stuck at the bottom in boats without hope. And he completely submerged himself in love---trying to transform an old world order into a new world order. That would inspire us to love, and respect our neighbors as we would want our neighbors to love and respect us and our own children.

However, Kings Dream seems to have become a nightmare in stead of an organism that allows boats stuck at the bottom to rise from disgrace to amazing grace. So the needy and not the greedy can benefit from his dream.

We must remind ourselves that no amount of lip service on Dr. Kings Birthday or a two-day stop over or fly over is acceptable for such a great American and world icon.

Therefore, all humanity must wake-up from the nightmare and began to work for that which Dr. Martin L. King Jr., gave his life.

Otherwise, we cannot claim to be participants in his dream and carrying on his legacy---under the banner of "I HAVE A DREAM."


GEORGE RHYNES
Valdosta, GA

Posted by: George Rhynes | February 12, 2006 7:21 PM | Report abuse

Armstrong, the owner of the farm, is spinning this as an intrinsic part of quail hunting. That oughta make the NRA happy....

Posted by: RD Padouk | February 12, 2006 7:21 PM | Report abuse

More details on Cheney incident, repeal of 2nd Amendment.
http://www.scrappleface.com/?p=2176

Posted by: Scott Ott | February 12, 2006 7:21 PM | Report abuse

Clearly the only way out for the VP is to somehow get people to believe that the shot actually came from a grassy knoll.

Posted by: RD Padouk | February 12, 2006 7:28 PM | Report abuse

The question become "Who'll wanna go huntin' with Dick?" Any takers? You know of anybody you don't like--volunteer their name as Cheney's hunting partner. Cheney's bird-dog is probably afraid to huntin' with him now, after having seen this weekend's display of prowess. Certainly, Anton Scalia will be shakin' in his Supreme Court robes at the thought of sitting behind a Texas duck blind with Deadeye Dick.

And should anything happen to Lynne, well, there's a match made in heaven, waiting in the wings, for ol' sharpshooter Deadeye Dick:

A woman who accidentally shot her husband on a hunting trip will end up getting her guns back, according to the AP.

A woman who accidentally killed her husband as they hunted deer will have her guns returned to her.

Investigators had taken away Jan Campbell's guns after she shot William Campbell during a December 2004 hunting trip with their son. Jan Campbell, of Center, Pa., said the gun misfired and pleaded no contest to a misdemeanor charge of shooting at human beings. She was fined $2,000.

A judge ruled Tuesday that Campbell can have the guns back after July 24, 2006, the last day she may appeal her conviction.

Campbell said she plans to give the guns to her 14-year-old son, but that she'll destroy the gun that was used in her husband's shooting.

"They are family heirlooms handed down from generation to generation from grandfather to father," Campbell said.

http://www.gunguys.com/

Posted by: Loomis | February 12, 2006 7:28 PM | Report abuse

This just in from the Corpus Christian News Service: "Asked by medics en route to the emergency room what he felt at being shot by the vice president of the United States, Harry Whittington is reported to have meeky replied 'shock and awe?'"

Posted by: Shiloh | February 12, 2006 7:28 PM | Report abuse

Oh, thank God our 2nd in Command is such a Stable Mabel (let along Deadeye Dick) that he requires an ambulance to travel alongside, rescuing those he wounds. I bet those vets at Walter Reed, learning to walk again, are SO relieved. Afterall, they were just "peppered" with shrapnel.

Posted by: JEL | February 12, 2006 7:30 PM | Report abuse

Harry Whittington should know better. Cheney is always shooting at the left, so you had better be to his right.

Posted by: Bruce | February 12, 2006 7:36 PM | Report abuse

Now let's not be playin' the blame game here. I mean, who among us can honestly say they haven't accidentally shot a 78 year old man.

Posted by: RD Padouk | February 12, 2006 7:36 PM | Report abuse

If I can suppress my inner smartass for a moment, this whole thing makes a serious point. Guns and hunting are dangerous. I'm not saying they should be illegal, but I can't imagine anybody seriously claiming that any amount of training can make them totally safe.

Posted by: RD Padouk | February 12, 2006 7:40 PM | Report abuse

Well, you know the old saying: "a bird in hand is worth two in the bush." Do you think maybe he thought he could get a bird and Bush and become President?

This gives a new meaning to Attorney-client privilege where the client gets to diss the attorney ... big time!

If this guy weren't so destructive in everything he touches, he'd be fun!!

Posted by: bwana | February 12, 2006 7:41 PM | Report abuse

Background on the Armstrongs and their ranch:

Pioneer Tobin Armstrong's ancestor, Texas Ranger John B. Armstrong, bought the beginnings of the Armstrong Ranch in 1882 with the $4,000 bounty he received for capturing outlaw John Wesley Hardin. In 1944 Tobin's older brother wed an heir of legendary King Ranch (see Fausto Yturria)[InCREDible], linking two of the biggest ranches in Texas.

The Armstrong Ranch has since gone global, with tracts in Australia and South America. In recent years, Tobin and his wife, Anne, have hosted many GOP dignitaries--including the first and second President Bush--on their 50,000-acre Armstrong Ranch in South Texas. "We go out when the dew is still on the grass, and then hunt until we shoot our limit," Tobin said in 2000 of his ranch outings with Dick Cheney. "Then we pick a fine spot and have a wild game picnic lunch."

True conservatives might choke on their javelina steaks if they knew that Tobin Armstrong dunned the government for $11,336 in farm subsidies between 1995 and 2002, according to the Environmental Working Group. Anne Armstrong served as a close advisor to President Nixon; President Ford's British Ambassador; and approved covert actions on the President's Foreign Intelligence Advisory Board under Reagan. A veteran of blue-chip corporate boards, Anne Armstrong was a Halliburton director when that corporation hired Cheney. She is Kay Bailey Hutchison's best friend, having helped launch the senator's career as Republican National Committee co-chair in 1971. George W. Bush appointed Anne Armstrong as a Texas A&M regent in 1997. She and her husband were part of Laura Bush's delegation to the funeral of Queen Mother Elizabeth in 2002.

As a Kenedy County Commissioner in 2001, Tobin Armstrong expressed serious reservations about a short-lived Bush administration plan to relocate a Navy bomb-testing site from Puerto Rico to the fragile sand dunes of a local beach. Daughter Katharine Armstrong--formerly Katherine Idsal--and ex-son-in-law Warren Idsal also are Pioneers. President Bush invited Tobin, Anne and Katharine Armstrong to a White House sleepover.

http://www.whitehouseforsale.org/ContributorsAndPaybacks/pioneer_profile.cfm?pioneer_ID=509

Posted by: Loomis | February 12, 2006 7:43 PM | Report abuse

There is something very wrong with this story. Why didn't the vice president's office release the news immediately? Was local law enforcement informed? When the vice president is involved in a shooting incident, whether an accident or not, the public should be informed pretty quickly, not 22 hours later - and not with a phone call to the local paper from the woman who owned the ranch.

Posted by: Asbury | February 12, 2006 7:45 PM | Report abuse

W House announced today that VP Cheney showed his commitment to the global war on terrorism by SHOOTING long-time Al Quaida mole. Heroic act OK'd under secret Exec Order may have stopped air raid on Johnson City TX using brainwashed pen-raised Bobwhite wearing shoebombs.

Posted by: tristan | February 12, 2006 7:53 PM | Report abuse

The snarky comments may be okay with respect to Cheney's deferment, but Rumsfeld actually did serve in the Navy.

Posted by: j.a.m. | February 12, 2006 7:56 PM | Report abuse

I expect, Asbury, that the 22 hour delay in reporting the incident was to ask AG Alberto Gonzales if manslaughter is exempt from the Constitution if it is the VP doing the shooting, to determine the political fallout and give Carl Rove time to draft a strategic response and methodology for delivering that response and to work up an administration position on deniability vs heightening fear of the vice president as the better option.

Posted by: Shiloh | February 12, 2006 7:56 PM | Report abuse

Look out Al Quaida

Cheney's got a gun!!!!!

Posted by: HArvey Korn | February 12, 2006 8:02 PM | Report abuse

I feel so much better that he was "apologetic." What would he have been if his friend had lost an eye-- or his life?

Posted by: JEL | February 12, 2006 8:13 PM | Report abuse

Thank whomever that Dick Cheney received deferment after deferment to avoid the Viet Nam conflict or the casualties there would have been even higher. Friendly fire is not only collateral damage, it's an embarrassing shoot 'em up.

But this is what I'm wondering: Is Lynne Cheney saying about her husband, this is not a good man? I doubt it. Because Dick was seriously apologetic. This is a side of the Vice we've never seen. An apologetic Cheney. Hard to imagine.

Good thing for Whittington that Dick's own health is so poor. The Vice is in such bad shape that he travels with a veritable hospital of physicians and an ambulance. Can you believe it? Our troops in Iraq don't have proper body armor, but Dick has his own personal ambulance. And that's why Harry Whittington received instant medical attention. Whittington might not be in stable condition right now if Dick were in stable condition right now.

http://www.opednews.com/articles/opedne_missy_co_060212_the_friendly_fire_of.htm

Posted by: Loomis | February 12, 2006 8:18 PM | Report abuse

Guns don't shoot people. Dick Cheney shoots people.

Posted by: K | February 12, 2006 8:21 PM | Report abuse

Doesn't he have better things to be doing than quail hunting, anyway? Like... run a country that's at war, or say, balance a budget? I mean, it's not like he's hunting for FOOD. If he wanted to eat quail, I'm sure some could have been procured for him. Really.

Posted by: anon | February 12, 2006 8:23 PM | Report abuse

Just for grins, I did a nonscientific news search on "Dick Cheney" on just stories printed Friday and yesterday. For the most part, they are either about Libby's testimony about Cheney's role in the leaks or the administration's poor performance during the Katrina disaster.

Makes me wonder if good old Harry Whittington didn't take one for his buddy the Vice President. Nothing like an accidental shooting to take everyone's mind off the important stuff. Should we expect a terror alert soon, too?

Posted by: TBG | February 12, 2006 8:27 PM | Report abuse

In light of his refusal of subpoenas, perhaps the perfect moniker is SBD.

Silent but Deadly.

Posted by: DuckIt'sDick | February 12, 2006 8:27 PM | Report abuse


DICK: The bird is in the bush, not in the grass.

Posted by: gerryc | February 12, 2006 8:29 PM | Report abuse

>The snarky comments may be okay with respect to Cheney's deferment, but Rumsfeld actually did serve in the Navy.

Quite true, credit where it's due.

Of course Jimmy Carter was commander of a nuclear sub, and he doesn't get much credit for that.

Posted by: asdg | February 12, 2006 8:30 PM | Report abuse

Loomis, the only thing Lynne is saying at this point is "This is really good quail."

I have a good, low-fat, low-sodium receipe for quail, if you're interested.

The first taste is slow, like honey in a pale September. But if not hung properly it may be limp and taste like carrion in a paper bag. Sorry, that was a previous boodle.

Posted by: Shiloh | February 12, 2006 8:31 PM | Report abuse

I am thrilled that you think you know who I am.

I haven't been around much, but have appeared here under the nom de blog: Bob S. But that is not my real name or gender.

Having read far too much about you and yours, I think I will change my name. No offense, I hope. I do like your occasional acidic phrases, though. Keep em coming.

Mrs. Earle

Posted by: curmwannabe | February 12, 2006 8:31 PM | Report abuse

While not shooting at people or giving vile speeches in front of congregations of People Uttlerly Lacking Self-Respect, where *is* Cheney hiding an what *is* he doing?

Posted by: El Tonno | February 12, 2006 8:32 PM | Report abuse

The Armstrong Ranch is Cheney's secure, undisclosed location. Although he was hunkered down there, I bet he was hardly bunkered down there, or at all close to the bunk house. Although most of what Cheney says is bunk.

Posted by: Loomis | February 12, 2006 8:37 PM | Report abuse

Hey it's an honest mistake. Apaprently this Whittington fellow looks like a covey of quail.

Posted by: David | February 12, 2006 8:40 PM | Report abuse

Hey, the guy "came up from behind" and "didn't announce" himself. I'm surprised they didn't also say he was drunk and juggling live quail. Anyway, he clearly deserved to get shot for being so gosh-darn careless.

Apparently the 24-hour time lag was so Cheney's apologists could work out an angle (blame the victim!) and invent some convenient euphemisms for the word "shot."

Posted by: meemo | February 12, 2006 8:41 PM | Report abuse

I can't wait to see what Letterman and Leno have to say about this on Monday night.

Posted by: Dave Nelson | February 12, 2006 8:41 PM | Report abuse

Whittington IS an attorney... maybe Mr. Cheney has fired the first salvo in a new push on tort reform?

Posted by: asdg | February 12, 2006 8:45 PM | Report abuse

"Of course Jimmy Carter was commander of a nuclear sub, and he doesn't get much credit for that."

A point well taken except that Carter was only a junior officer on a nuclear submarine. He got out of the Navy before he could rise to command rank.

Posted by: Dave Nelson | February 12, 2006 8:46 PM | Report abuse

Wasn't Cheney also hunting when Katrina fell, in the west somewhere? And constantly hunting in in western Pennsylvania. Always shooting at something, drawing blood. Or causing the shooting and drawing of blood in wherever, Iraq, for example, tooling up for Iran.
Bloody bunch, the Bushies. Except when called to war themselves.

Posted by: NannLee | February 12, 2006 8:48 PM | Report abuse

TBG: See what you started?

Bush's Rangers and Pioneers
Rangers are an elite class of fundraisers created for the 2004 election cycle who have bundled at least $200,000 for the Bush campaign. Pioneers are those who have pledged to gather $100,000. For the 2004 campaign, there are 221 Rangers and 327 Pioneers, so far. In the 2000 campaign, 550 fundraisers signed up to be Pioneers, and at least 241 of them reached their goal. Use this search engine to find information about Rangers and Pioneers, which is presented in cooperation with Texans for Public Justice.

Background on Katherine Armstrong:

Warren Idsal and Katharine Armstrong both worked for major investment firms at the time of their 1982 wedding, with the Paine Webber (see Joseph Grano) groom marrying a Smith Barney bride. During the 2000 campaign the then-married couple still romantically shared a common Bush Pioneer tracking number.

Katherine is the daughter of Pioneer Tobin Armstrong, an heir to the fabled Armstrong and King Ranch fortunes. Her mother, Anne Armstrong, who is Kay Bailey Hutchison's best friend, helped launch the senator's career as Republican National Committee co-chair in 1971. As Texas Treasurer in the early 1990s, Kay Bailey Hutchison returned the favor by hiring Armstrong's son-in-law, Warren Idsal, as a top aide. But Hutchison fired him after a short tenure. Warren Idsal also was an executive at health and life insurer United Insurance Companies (UICI) for several years in the late 1990s.

Then-Governor George W. Bush appointed Katharine Idsal to the Texas Parks and Wildlife Commission in 1999. The Idsals divorced and Katherine reclaimed her maiden name after Bush's gubernatorial successor appointed Katherine chair of the commission. This heir apparent to the Armstrong Ranch resigned her state post in mid-2003, citing her need to make a living for her three children [**laughing so hard and wiping tears from my eyes, while playing the world's smallest violin**].

In 2004 she hung out her own lobby shingle and registered three lobby contracts, led by construction company Parsons Technology and Dannenbaum Engineering Corp., which is a major contractor for Texas water projects. President Bush invited Katherine Armstrong and her parents to a White House sleepover.

http://www.whitehouseforsale.org/ContributorsAndPaybacks/pioneer_profile.cfm?pioneer_ID=621

Posted by: Loomis | February 12, 2006 8:48 PM | Report abuse

I would also like to note that when I first saw this story on my My Yahoo news page, I didn't see the headline on the WaPo's home page. Then I noticed it in the middle of the "More Headlines" section, bundled with these other big stories:

• Haitian Official Alleges Vote Manipulation
• Iran Rejects Charge of Inflaming Violence
• Wizards Finish Perfect Homestand

I wonder when the Post decided that it was worth its own big headline? Don't you think it was weird that it wasn't more featured to begin with?

Posted by: TBG | February 12, 2006 8:49 PM | Report abuse

I think Dick Cheney has a standing offer to all liberal members of the Supreme Court to go hunting with him. He probably just mistook his hunting buddy for Stephen Breyer.

Carl Hiaasen's "Sick Puppy" has some hilarious hunting satire. Maybe Cheney was illegaling hunting endangered big game and they needed a full day to clear the ranch of the evidence. Nothing is too minor for a good conspircy theory.

Posted by: yellojkt | February 12, 2006 8:50 PM | Report abuse

Somewhere this evening, Jon Stewart and Steven Colbert and their writers are all going to bed with smiles on their faces. It's like a snow day tomorrow: they hardly have to work.

I'm also amazed that the story contains no information whatever from police sources. If you shoot somebody in Texas, even accidentally, don't you have to call the Texas Rangers and have Walker come out and take a statement? Did the cops come out to the scene? Did they take Cheyney's gun and take a statement, etc.? Or did Ken Mehlman just handle the whole thing?

Posted by: Curmudgeon | February 12, 2006 8:52 PM | Report abuse

So .. was Cheney charged in this assault with a firearm?

Posted by: Chas | February 12, 2006 8:57 PM | Report abuse

Do I believe the LIBERAL Media sat on this one overnight....Naw...Do I believe this was an accident...uh is this the same person with the temperment to tell Senator Patric Leahy to do the nasty to himself on the Senate Floor...Naw. This must be a joke.

Posted by: lcarter | February 12, 2006 9:05 PM | Report abuse

Do I believe the LIBERAL Media sat on this one overnight....Naw...Do I believe this was an accident...uh is this the same person with the temperment to tell Senator Patric Leahy to do the nasty to himself on the Senate Floor...Naw. This must be a joke.

Posted by: lcarter | February 12, 2006 9:06 PM | Report abuse

Loomis, your insights into Texas politics are enlightening and formidable. Thank you. I shall henceforth be cautious when being glib, satirical or caustic and have gained a respect for your links and cut and paste commentary(which should nonetheless be barred from the V competition, if any such competition should come to fruition.)

Posted by: Shiloh | February 12, 2006 9:07 PM | Report abuse

Why was Chenny hunting quayle in the first place? Weren't the Bushes embarassed enough the first time?

Posted by: Tom | February 12, 2006 9:08 PM | Report abuse

How do you know the victim is doing fine. He's 78 years old for god's sake and the incident was not reported until a day later.
What do we actually know about this except what Cheney, his friends and spin doctors have so far reported. Why do you in media report as fact what is first reported without either qualifing the reports as unverified or waiting until the truth comes out. I suspect there is more to this than has been reported so far, especially regarding the seriousness of the victim's injuries.

In any event, it does not make sense that a fellow hunter, age 78, and likely walking on the ground could be mistaken for a bird in the air, even a quail.

Posted by: mike stanley | February 12, 2006 9:10 PM | Report abuse

Oops!....Cheney. Seems he's gone so much, I've forgotten how to spell his name.

Posted by: Tom | February 12, 2006 9:12 PM | Report abuse

The delay in reporting this incident occurred as a result of Cheney's hope to deny being in Texas and to place the blame on lookalike Nancy Pelosi

Posted by: Chas | February 12, 2006 9:13 PM | Report abuse

>Carter was only a junior officer
I worked for the Navy with a Lt. Commander, he wasn't exactly a junior officer. He certainly seemed to get some respect when we installed systems on carriers.

Posted by: asdg | February 12, 2006 9:15 PM | Report abuse

That's some cheap shot you took at Mr. Cheney whose own likely will prove quite costly for him.

Posted by: Bohdan Balzic | February 12, 2006 9:21 PM | Report abuse

What was he doing so close to red meat?

Posted by: KT | February 12, 2006 9:24 PM | Report abuse

I recommend military training for him so he can learn safe gun-handling. Boy, Scalia sure lucked out!

Posted by: Clay Bullröhr | February 12, 2006 9:24 PM | Report abuse

Henceforth, the only ones daring to join him on the hunt will be the quivering members of his own staff.

Posted by: Ulrich | February 12, 2006 9:26 PM | Report abuse

Carter is also a graduate of Annapolis -- only the thrid graduate of a service academy to become President (Grant and Eisenhower being the other two).

Posted by: oilhistorian | February 12, 2006 9:28 PM | Report abuse

I love all you people who never served a day in the military who like to rag on Dick Cheney, George Bush and others. I am a Vietnam veteran (Bronze Star, Army Commendation Medal) and they represent my values and thos of my fellow veterans much better than John Kerrey or any other Democrat I have seen running for office lately. Your comments are just making you look foolish.

Posted by: David from Augusta | February 12, 2006 9:30 PM | Report abuse

re:
He who lives by the sword gets peppered by the sword:
- King George and Prince Rove would get steamed if the press were to set upon any discrepancies between different versions of events. Someone might get called a liar - oooh; bad P/R. We certainly don't need any more proof there are liars in the Court. Thus I'm certain the minor delay in reporting the President's little hunting accident was to clean up everyone's story.

One hopes the symbolism of this friendly fire incident will have some teeth, but clearly another grand media circus-distraction will follow, quite deliberately removing us yet again from the reality on the ground in the King's Court.
Wake up, People - The Emperor has no clothes!

I am looking forward to more jokes though.

Posted by: smitty mcgritty from New Orleans City | February 12, 2006 9:31 PM | Report abuse

How much is Mr. Cheney's little boy Quayle adventure costing the taxpayer? To say nothing of his victim?

Posted by: JEL | February 12, 2006 9:31 PM | Report abuse

To think that Republicans screamed about an alleged Clinton haircut.

Posted by: JEL | February 12, 2006 9:33 PM | Report abuse

Carter was a top protege of Adm. Hyman Rickover in the nuke program, and was clearly headed for big things. He resigned only after his father died of cancer, and it looked like his mother (the now famous Miss Lillian) was likely to lose the farm. So he resigned to go manage the farm.

Posted by: Curmudgeon | February 12, 2006 9:33 PM | Report abuse

WHO WAS THE THIRD MAN/WOMAN OUT THERE ON THE QUAIL SHOOT WITH VP CHENEY, MR. WHITTINGTON AND MS. ARMSTRONG? HOW DOES A VICE PRESIDENT WITH GOUT GO QUAIL SHOOTING/

Posted by: FRANCES | February 12, 2006 9:35 PM | Report abuse

Now if Cheney had actually served in the military and had been given proper weapons training...

Posted by: Derwood | February 12, 2006 9:37 PM | Report abuse

Dear Frances,
Please don't yell.

Posted by: smitty mcgritty from New Orleans City | February 12, 2006 9:39 PM | Report abuse

David from Augusta says: "I am a Vietnam veteran (Bronze Star, Army Commendation Medal) and they represent my values and thos of my fellow veterans much better than John Kerrey or any other Democrat I have seen running for office lately."

David, does he mean that you believe the following?:

The best way to improve military morale is to praise the troops in speeches, while slashing veterans' benefits and combat pay.

Saddam was a good guy when Reagan armed him, a bad guy when Bush's daddy made war on him, a good guy when Cheney did business with him, and a bad guy when Bush needed a "we can't find Bin Laden" diversion.

Trade with Cuba is wrong because the country is Communist, but trade with China and Vietnam is vital to a spirit of international harmony.


Providing health care to all Iraqis is sound policy, but providing health care to all Americans is socialism.

A woman can't be trusted with decisions about her own body, but multi-national corporations can make decisions affecting all mankind without regulation.

If condoms are kept out of schools, adolescents won't have sex.

A good way to fight terrorism is to belittle our long-time allies, then demand their cooperation and money.

Abortion is murder, but capital punishment is OK.

Global warming and tobacco's link to cancer are junk science, but creationism should be taught in schools.

A president lying about an extramarital affair is a impeachable offense, but a president lying to enlist support for a war in which thousands die is solid defense policy.

Government should limit itself to the powers named in the Constitution, which include banning gay marriages and censoring the Internet.

The public has a right to know about Hillary's cattle trades, but George Bush's driving record is none of our business.

You support states' rights, but Attorney General John Ashcroft can tell states what local voter initiatives they have the right to adopt.

Posted by: TBG | February 12, 2006 9:41 PM | Report abuse

Two men, 65ish and 78 respectively, need to shoot something so badly, that they sit in a car with the ranch owner and watch for a covey before they emerge to shoot anything or anyone in sight. Sad. So sad and tragic.

Posted by: JEL | February 12, 2006 9:43 PM | Report abuse

I would like to know who the third man with Cheney was and who else, if any was in the party as well. Given past experience, I am sure that information will be considered national security info and never be revealed.

Posted by: mike stanley | February 12, 2006 9:44 PM | Report abuse

David from Augusta: I love all you people who never served a day in the military who like to rag on Dick Cheney,

HINT: Cheny avoided Vietnam due to FIVE deferments.

Cheney was of military age during the Vietnam War but he did not serve in the war. On May 19, 1965, Cheney was classified as 1-A "available for service" by the Selective Service. On October 26, 1965 the Selective Service lifted the constraints on drafting childless married men. However, after his daughter was born, Cheney applied for and received a reclassification of 3-A, gaining him a fifth draft deferment. Asked about his deferments, the future Defense Secretary said he had "other priorities than military service."

Posted by: God | February 12, 2006 9:45 PM | Report abuse

Gun control! Gun control!

Posted by: Franklin D. Sternberg | February 12, 2006 9:56 PM | Report abuse

kbertocci, how about whipping out the dictionary definition of "non sequitur" for our friend David of Augusta. Dave, I have no doubt Bush and Chaney share your values, and you theirs, and that you are a Vietnam veteran. Here's the non-sequitur: so what? Because YOU share their values does that mean we who DON"T share them aren't allowed to rag on them? And of course you adopt the biggest mistaken non sequitur of all: you just naturally assume the critics have no military exerience ("I love all you people who never served a day"...blah blah blah.) Do you actually believe that argument has any merit, or are you just cynically putting it out there to blow smoke? I can blow your entire argument to smithereens with two words: Jack Murtha. You want two more words? David Hackworth. Two more? Richard Clarke. Oh, and how about that John Kerry fellah you mentioned. I seem to recollect he was a decorated Vietnam vet, just like you.

Posted by: Curmudgeon | February 12, 2006 10:04 PM | Report abuse

to shoot Quayle, not quail, so Daddy's other bad decision would be over. Just like letting Saddam off the hook during the Gulf War was the supposition of the current Iraqi war. Dubbya wants to look good for daddy since he has nothing to show for himself. Failed in business, failed in the military, failed as governor of Texas, and now is the worst president we ever had.

There's just no pleasing daddy. Keep trying Dubya.

NEWS ALERT from Focks News and Bush Limbaugh:
Democratic front rummer HRC was seen at the Armstrong range doing reconissance on latest GOP plans to stick it to the little man. Cheney mistook HRC as a bird in the bush is worth two in the hand and shot the little man. The third person at the ranch was obviously HRC and she is to blame.

NEWS ALERT FROM ROVE: Rove told fellow Republicans in a classified email that he will use this incident to tar and feather all Democrats as being weak kneeded liberals who are afraid to fire a shot at their fellow man.

Posted by: Cheney was suppose | February 12, 2006 10:21 PM | Report abuse

Cheney was suppose to shoot Quayle, not quail, so Daddy's other bad decision would be over. Just like letting Saddam off the hook during the Gulf War was the supposition of the current Iraqi war. Dubbya wants to look good for daddy since he has nothing to show for himself. Failed in business, failed in the military, failed as governor of Texas, and now is the worst president we ever had.

There's just no pleasing daddy. Keep trying Dubya.

NEWS ALERT from Focks News and Bush Limbaugh:
Democratic front rummer HRC was seen at the Armstrong range doing reconissance on latest GOP plans to stick it to the little man. Cheney mistook HRC as a bird in the bush is worth two in the hand and shot the little man. The third person at the ranch was obviously HRC and she is to blame.

NEWS ALERT FROM ROVE: Rove told fellow Republicans in a classified email that he will use this incident to tar and feather all Democrats as being weak kneeded liberals who are afraid to fire a shot at their fellow man.

Posted by: BushBaiting | February 12, 2006 10:23 PM | Report abuse

Clearly, I think we have to invite Vice President up to the fair state of Vermont to do some deer hunting with our Republican candidate for Senate...the VP will appreciate the fact that our gun control laws are extremely liberal. And hardly ever convict people who shoot their hunting partners. Don't take my word for it, you can look it up!

yellow dog

Posted by: Yellow Dog VT | February 12, 2006 10:26 PM | Report abuse

Remember all the fuss about Ted Kennedy not informing the public immediatly when he had his accident? We here that brought up daily how many years later. I guess there are accidents and then there are "accidents". Hmmm

Posted by: george | February 12, 2006 10:27 PM | Report abuse

So how well can the victim be doing if he's still in the ICU?

Posted by: CapitalistImperialistPig | February 12, 2006 10:28 PM | Report abuse

Left the well deserved fun-poking, this blog, to scout late headlines. And return to say I feel flayed like a filet. Tim Golden's just posted NYT piece on prisons (ers), more on the Katrina lies and incompetence, more on spying and Bob Herbert, Wapo (whom I rarely read but was pointed to today, etc.) Good God, if things aren't reaching a crescendo for this administration they should be. A mess of frightening proportions. Not getting better.

Posted by: nanlee | February 12, 2006 10:34 PM | Report abuse

Dick Cheney, another successful graduate of the Bobby Knight Firearm Safety School.

Posted by: nee jurk | February 12, 2006 10:35 PM | Report abuse

> "22 hour delay in reporting the incident was to [...] give [K]arl Rove time to draft a strategic response"

You don't need to be Karl Rove to handle this one... you follow the tried and true strategy of "Blame The Victim." The first public comment made it clear that Whittington "came up from behind" and "didn't announce" himself.

Posted by: Eddie from Iowa | February 12, 2006 10:35 PM | Report abuse

Worth recalling is that Cheney famously shot some 70 birds in a "canned hunt" a few years back.

Posted by: Bayou Self | February 12, 2006 10:36 PM | Report abuse

Just think what Limbaugh would have said if Kerry would have done that. Weak on defense libral no doubt. Flip flop between bird and man targets.

Posted by: George | February 12, 2006 10:36 PM | Report abuse

> "Clearly, I think we have to invite Vice President up to the fair state of Vermont to do some deer hunting with our Republican candidate for Senate..."

Certainly if the Veep is going to shoot Republicans he should at least use larger guage...

Posted by: Eddie from Iowa | February 12, 2006 10:38 PM | Report abuse

"Cheney's Got a Gun"
(apologies to Aerosmith)

Oh Dick Cheney what have you done?
bad guys fear the sound of your gun

Oh Dick Cheney what have you done?
Collateral damage in the Texas sun

waaaah waaah wahhh...

Cheney's got a gun (repeat)
the fun had just begun
the quail were on the run

What did that lawyer do?
was he bin Laden's new number 2?

He took a little shock and awe with some buckshot in his jaw oh yeah
(power chords)
Hey he must been a sleaze or hiding WMDs cause Cheney always always shoots so straaaaaiiiiggggghhhhht!

Run away, run away from the blame...

Posted by: DJQ Burn | February 12, 2006 10:38 PM | Report abuse

28-Gauge shotgun = $1000

10 Quail bag limit - $50

Shooting your buddy in the face=

Priceless.

Posted by: Kevin | February 12, 2006 10:39 PM | Report abuse

Humane Society Statement

POSTED: 2:51 p.m. EST December 9, 2003

Monday's hunting trip to Pennsylvania by Vice President Dick Cheney in which he reportedly shot more than 70 stocked pheasants and an unknown number of mallard ducks at an exclusive private club places a spotlight on an increasingly popular and deplorable form of hunting, in which birds are pen-reared and released to be shot in large numbers by patrons. The ethics of these hunts are called into question by rank-and-file sportsmen, who hunt animals in their native habitat and do not shoot confined or pen-raised animals that cannot escape.

The Pittsburgh Post-Gazette reported today that 500 farm-raised pheasants were released yesterday morning at the Rolling Rock Club in Ligonier Township for the benefit of Cheney's 10-person hunting party. The group killed at least 417 of the birds, illustrating the unsporting nature of canned hunts. The party also shot an unknown number of captive mallards in the afternoon.

"This wasn't a hunting ground. It was an open-air abattoir, and the vice president should be ashamed to have patronized this operation and then slaughtered so many animals," states Wayne Pacelle, a senior vice president of The Humane Society of the United States. "If the Vice President and his friends wanted to sharpen their shooting skills, they could have shot skeet or clay, not resorted to the slaughter of more than 400 creatures planted right in front of them as animated targets."

The Humane Society of the United States deplores the shooting of captive birds and animals where traditional "fair chase" hunting ethics are discarded and kills are guaranteed. We are campaigning to outlaw canned hunts through federal and state legislation and our opposition is more thoroughly delineated in an opinion page essay by Pacelle in today's edition of The New York Times. See the essay at www.nytimes.com/2003/12/09/opinion/09PACE.html.

Posted by: Anonymous | February 12, 2006 10:44 PM | Report abuse

David in Augusta,

You'll have to speak for yourself. I am an active duty Air Force officer stationed in Alaska who's been in for over 15 years and I have no love for Cheney or Bush. I do what they tell me because I took the oath, but that doesn't make them magically competent. I don't think they are evil; just incompetent. They certainly don't represent my values. There are many others in the service who share my opinions. The military is not a monolitic entity that shares a single set of political views.

Kevin

Posted by: Kevin in AK | February 12, 2006 10:44 PM | Report abuse

I hope that the fellow who was shot is OK.

The absence of a prompt official statement of some sort is, I think, odd -- whether from the VPs office or te Texas police authorities. The delay in reporting is also peculiar. There are reasonable possiblilities (Cheney was shaken and embarassed, for instance) and others as well that cannot now be verified (alcohol all around, for example). At the least Cheney should have called the police or have had someone call the police immediately. There may even be a legal requirement to do that in timely fashion. It is required in the case of an automobile accident even if no one is injured.

Posted by: global citizen | February 12, 2006 10:48 PM | Report abuse

For proper quail hunting etiquette, go to http://www.riverplantation.com/Quail_Hunting_Tips/quail_hunting_tips.html and note especially the next to last paragraph. And as for calling out your approach, apparently Whittington thought it'd be funny to say "BOO!!" instead.

Posted by: nee jurk | February 12, 2006 10:49 PM | Report abuse

How far will the media take this???

No where I am sure....

Come on Jon Stewart!

Posted by: Q in TX | February 12, 2006 11:10 PM | Report abuse

Man...I just got through writing about this on my site. I laughed as soon as I saw the article. I would have never imagined hearing of the Vice President of the United States shooting someone. Leave it up to Dick Cheney.

You can check out my take on the shooting at http://listentoleon.blogsopt.com

I'd love to hear what you think, Mr Achenbaum.

Posted by: ListentoLeon.blogspot.com | February 12, 2006 11:27 PM | Report abuse

Oops...Screwed up the url. I'm about as accurate as Dick Cheney's aim tonight.

http://listentoleon.blogspot.com

Posted by: Leon again... | February 12, 2006 11:29 PM | Report abuse

Interesting. I went to read the comments on the previous Kit because the counter showed zero comments on the Dead-Eye Dick item. I came back, and there were 108 comments posted already! The crotchety people come out in force when Joel posts on Dickie, Karl, or Little George. Today, except for Dave from August, it appears to be people who think Joel is part of a vast right-wing conspiracy. Maybe by tomorrow, the tide will shift to favor thinking there's a vast left-wing conspiracy.

In other news: punctuated equilibrium, as a concept, is not part of astronomy. However, we have phenomena that move along smoothly, then catastrophically change. The most colorful would be novae (not the same as supernovae), in which a white dwarf or neutron star accretes matter from an ordinary companion star until there is enough pressure to initiate nuclear fusion in the accreted matter, causing a detonation that brightens the star (actually, star pair) by several orders of magnitude for a few days. I guess that might resemble punctuated equilibrium, but it returns to something like the original equilibrium state, rather than transitioning to a new and different equilibrium, which is the evolutionary biology version of punctuated equilibrium.

Posted by: Tim | February 12, 2006 11:51 PM | Report abuse

Way to go, TBG! Wooo hooo! Haven't finished reading all the comments after that, but had to comment on your post of 9:41:06!

That's GOOD stuff!

Posted by: Cat Keeper | February 12, 2006 11:54 PM | Report abuse

Um, Tim ..... you forgot to list yourself as "Science Tim" for your 11:51:18. It's OK, we forgive you.

Posted by: Cat Keeper | February 13, 2006 12:06 AM | Report abuse

That's what I get for mixing themes.

Posted by: ScienceTim | February 13, 2006 12:07 AM | Report abuse

Dear Kevin in AK,

Thank you so much.

Posted by: asdg | February 13, 2006 12:12 AM | Report abuse


I had no feeling of schweinehund over this.

Posted by: pete | February 13, 2006 12:21 AM | Report abuse

I Ken the difference SciTim and appreciate the response. Novae could be a possible demographic event if a mass of tourists suddenly converged in RVs for a few days and caused a spike in use of the town's infrastructure. Rather than a acomparison to astronomy, I should concentrate on astrology - that has more wiggle room and could easily be manipulated to suit the postulate of a demographic punctuated equilibrium.

Posted by: Shiloh | February 13, 2006 1:23 AM | Report abuse

The extra "a" in "a acomparison" is in gratitude to Tim aka SciTim for his response and recogntion of Dave from August(a). I herby return that "a" -it was a master's play on words in the "Guns of August."

Posted by: Shiloh | February 13, 2006 2:03 AM | Report abuse

If the guns of David from August(a) were aimed only at thos(e) who "never served a day in the service," his argument is a bogey; refutable, Cur, not just by two words, but by two letters: ME, because I served and I would like to stuff the rag in Dave's mouth after I finish using in on Bush, Cheney, Rove, et.al.

Posted by: Shiloh | February 13, 2006 2:19 AM | Report abuse

SCC: "it on Bush.' My apologies to fellow boodlers for seeming to lose my cool, but nothing steams me as much as those pretentious, presumptuous,patronizing "patriots" who wrap themselves in the flag to support their fascist leaning favorites currently corrupting democracy in America. They should go back to The Debate where Emily wisely ignores their neocon rhetoric.

Posted by: Shiloh | February 13, 2006 2:29 AM | Report abuse

Cheney should sit in his bunker and read Vonnegut - instead playing with his little guns...

Posted by: ot | February 13, 2006 2:38 AM | Report abuse

My use of the SCC that I usually abjure and a feverish burst of alliteration are further evidence that myopic opinionists like Dave from Augusta piss me off.

Posted by: Shiloh | February 13, 2006 2:42 AM | Report abuse

Shiloh - I don't want to "stuff a rag" in anybody's mouth. Say what you please; this is America. I do find your threats rther creepy. Bet you consistently vote Dem. We Republicans don't want to kill those with whom we disagree, just defeat them at the polls.

Posted by: David from Augusta | February 13, 2006 2:43 AM | Report abuse

must have been confusing with all them six-foot tall Texas quail

Posted by: kp | February 13, 2006 3:02 AM | Report abuse

David from Augusta says: "We Republicans don't want to kill those with whom we disagree, just defeat them at the polls."

Actually, I seem to recall some of that kind of rhetoric from the Clinton years. But, what the hey.

Anyway, there are some things about the current administration that ... tick Shiloh off. One has to calibrate how one reads it.

Posted by: Tim | February 13, 2006 3:04 AM | Report abuse

Dave - I only want to stuff a rag in the mouth of deceit - and the current administration fulminators are masters of deceit, led by that snake Rove, the Bushmaster of Deceit. Your perception of my "threats" - admittedly sometimes wacky views on the intent of the founders - evidences the kind of deceit this creepy administration uses. Wanting to stuff a rag in your mouth said nothing about wanting to "kill" anyone. Yours are too typical mono-focused distortions and distorted views. Frankly, I don't care which orifice you stuff it in, but it was your mouth I found most offensive when you blanket denigrated those who served their country and disagreed with you and your beloved cohort. Stick it, Dave.

Posted by: Shiloh | February 13, 2006 3:07 AM | Report abuse

I would like to say that the status of one's military record (whether it exists or not, that is) should have no effect on whether one is permitted to participate in a debate about the use of military power. It DOES have an effect on the degree of authority that one's pronouncements carry.

What bothers many, like me, is the unseemly eagerness that Mr. Bush and Co. display for sending the military to solve problems "the quick way" by using military force. They seem to have an opinion of the effectiveness of miltary solutions that is not grounded in history. When a real general, a man with fighting experience (Shinseki), disagreed with the neocons and voiced the truths that they have now discovered for themselves, he was pooh-poohed and shunted aside. Military force can be necessary, and it has its uses; however, Mr. Bush seems to prefer the use of military action over diplomacy. That kind of bloodlust seems like it might be tempered if he understood the experience of being shot at and, more importantly, understood what it's like to put a human life in your sights and to kill.

Posted by: Tim | February 13, 2006 3:16 AM | Report abuse

I may need that spectrograph after all, Tim, just to signal when I am seeing red.

I would offer the terms of truce proposed by Adlai Stevenson to Dave of Augusta "If you will stop telling lies about Democrats, I will stop telling the truth about Republicans."

Posted by: Shiloh | February 13, 2006 3:20 AM | Report abuse

"Cheney's got a gun" gave my sad heart a laugh tonight.My dad wanted stem cells so badly and died nov.2004.Now mom has "Lou Gerhig's"disease and is in the last throes of is and desperately wants what? STEM CELLS! Of the stem cells they throw away mom and dad at 66 would have lived 20-30 more years."WHAT Are you gonna do? Stem cells will get him through"!should his hunting partner have needed them he's mor than likely to have"changed his tune".(sorry aerosmith,you're great".

Posted by: Shelli Swor | February 13, 2006 3:37 AM | Report abuse

Cur: Before leaving early this morning for a day of travel and meetings I would like to return the baton of comprehension.

Your original use of the word "rag" in its figurative sense - and my continued use figuratively, as in "stuff the rag" to indicate "eat those words," in the context of your post (which was directly referenced), seems to have escaped Mr. Augusta, who failed to, as Tim said "calibrate."

My possible over-reaction does serve as a reminder, however, that one should not engage in a battle of wits with an unarmed man, nor go bird hunting with an armed man who shoots first and looks later.

I know the boodle will be safe in and with your good hands at the keyboard. I return tomorrow to properly recognize and expose Fiona Apple to the boodle on her kit designated day.

Posted by: Shiloh | February 13, 2006 4:53 AM | Report abuse

What is really cool about Noam Chomsky is that he questions authority and doesn't want to accept the propaganda about what really happened on 9/11. The Bush illegal war in Iraq was only possible if the people believed that 9/11 was the result of 19 hijackers and jet airplanes.

There are many really cool progressive Web sites that prove it was more than likely squib charges that brought down the WTC, and the use of holograms convinced many (but not us really cool progressives) that it was jet airplanes being flown into the building.

Chomsky won't accept the propaganda and other really cool progressives like me and Sean Penn and Randi Rhodes are all onto the lies of the Bush regime.

Thank goodness there is the Internet, that allows for those on the left to bypass the corporate controlled media to find the truth. -Scott Laughrey

Posted by: Scott Laughrey | February 13, 2006 5:48 AM | Report abuse

Those who replied have a nice memory for quotes and enjoy crafting little phrases to snicker at. Have you also served your country, whether in the military or some other capacity? Made any unselfish sacrifices? One of the lessons one learns from military service is that not everyone is grateful for what you did for them, but that doesn't matter. You're welcome anyway, but I do hope you will reflect on the sorry state of your manners. And don't say things on the computer you wouldn't say to my face -- what does that say about you as a person if that is wht you are doing?

Posted by: David from Augusta | February 13, 2006 5:51 AM | Report abuse

Dave, Dave, Dave. Being grateful to you for the service you rendered is one thing--but you seem to think that your services also means we have to vote your way, agree with you, etc. What is most unseemly is your asking if others have "served your country, whether in the military or some other capacity? Made any unselfish sacrifices?" The clear implication is you think they haven't. and in this you are completely, utterly, hopelessly (emphasis on hopelessly) wrong. And now you feel bitter ("You're welcome anyway") because you think people should be agreeing with you, just because you won a medal in Vietnam. I don't and won't denigrate your service and your war record (like some of your colleagues denigrated the service and war records of Jack Murtha and oh, John Kerry, let's say).

If you think we wouldn't say any of this to your face, you're ...nevermind. I was about to violate a boodle rule.

And you have no call to question anyone's manners, when the basic premise underlying your belief system is "I Am A Patriot And You're Not. And BeCause You Aren'T Patriots (Like Me), You Shouldn"t Make Fun Of Or Criticize My PrEisdent." I've been listening to that crap for 40 years, ever since you served in Vietnam, Davey Boy. It was crap then, and it's crap now. You want to argue politics? Fine. Go right ahead. But knock off the self-righteous self-pity and questioning other people's patriotism. We got enough problems on our side of the table trying to deal with people who have forgotten their medications and who think the World Trade Center was destroyed by squib charges and holograms (the Internet told me so). ScienceTim, was it a full moon last night? Jeez.

Posted by: Curmudgeon | February 13, 2006 7:34 AM | Report abuse

How far will the media take this???

Nowhere I am sure....

Come on Jon Stewart!

Posted by: Q in TX | February 13, 2006 7:42 AM | Report abuse

"Peppered him pretty good" -- they are trying to blame the lawyer for this accident for not announcing his presence, when he was 30 yards behind, near a road (they had just got out of a car), and behind the hunters. To my mind, and with some experience hunting, I wonder how many people shout out their presence in these conditions. Besdies, according to these folks, why even bother with this protocao? There "are no bullets involved" and you are just going to "get peppered pretty good" anyway -- and, I mean, who hasn't got "peppered" in the face -- happens all the time, doesn't it?

Posted by: frank burns | February 13, 2006 7:53 AM | Report abuse

Cur, the moon was full here last night...must the reason for the spirited discussion.

Posted by: slyness | February 13, 2006 7:54 AM | Report abuse

Um, guys, I feel duty-bound to point out that you don't get two significantly different phases of the Moon at two different spots on Earth. The only difference is the time at which you observe the Moon; admittedly, since the Moon changes phase slowly but continuously, that means that two different longitudes would not automatically expect to both see the same full Moon on the same night. But they wouldn't be very different. Two different latitudes, on the same longitude, could see the Moon at the same time.

Getting back to the immediate question: yes, I believe it was a full Moon last night. I'm only judging by how bright the snow was last night, I didn't actually verify the phase, and I spent pretty much the whole night in front of my computer. I looked out the window occasionally, and my wife mentioned the full Moon to me.

Posted by: ScienceTim | February 13, 2006 8:10 AM | Report abuse

Folks, let's get something straight. I rarely mention my military service. I raised it in these posts ONLY because of the mant snide comments about Vice President Cheney's deferments and President Bush's National Guard Service in the context of the Vice President's hunting accident. In other words, you guys injected the issue into the debate, not me. Everyone in America, military service or none, is welcome to vote and to his or her opinion. However, if it makes you uncomfortable when someone raises the issue of your lack of service, perhaps you should not be the first to raise the issue in a blog. And your manners still need polishing.

Posted by: David from Augusta | February 13, 2006 8:18 AM | Report abuse

The funny thing about rhetorical questions is that they allow you to (try to) make a point without presenting any facts. Fabulous.

My favorite so far is, "Why did the media sit on this so long?" Er, it happened on Saturday afternoon, and I read about it on Sunday. I'm sure if Cheney was in the habit of taking the press corps on his hunting trips we would have heard about it sooner.

Posted by: jw | February 13, 2006 8:26 AM | Report abuse

I would just like to say that I am equally offended by rudeness whether it comes from someone whose views I share or someone with whom I disagree. Free speech is a wonderful thing, but good-humored persuasion is a much more effective form of communication than vitriolic invective.

Achenblog is so fabulous--I have NEVER before had the opportunity to type the phrase "vitriolic invective" and I like it so much that, there, I've found a pretext for typing it again.

Posted by: kbertocci | February 13, 2006 8:30 AM | Report abuse

And this is being way over-hyped. I shave by shooting myself in the face with 28-guage bird shot. It's an excellent exfolliant as well.

Posted by: jw | February 13, 2006 8:33 AM | Report abuse

Could we please discuss the REAL scandal this morning? Why are all these schools closed today when it snowed on SATURDAY!?!

Posted by: jw | February 13, 2006 8:43 AM | Report abuse

Instead of posting a definition for non sequitur, I offer Nani's comment on Joel's kit of this morning.

Over there=> =>

Posted by: kbertocci | February 13, 2006 8:49 AM | Report abuse

Well, I think everyone is just falling into Karl Rove's trap here! Look at all the energy and words that could be going into POSITIVE programs for we liberals and democrats just beign wasted on this lame duck Mr. Cheney. Come on, people, let's write about what is positive about our program, not fall into the trap of all these negative comments about the other side!! I think Karl Rove arranged this as a distraction and a "black hole" negative energy trap for us!!!!!

Posted by: Dorothy from Columbus | February 13, 2006 8:59 AM | Report abuse

Dorothy has a good point, and it should be sent in a memo to all liberal bloggers post-haste. Nothing constructive is going to come from ranting about Cheney's little hunting trip. Aside from its bizarreness, it has absolutely no bearing or relevance on the greater issues facing the country. The Democrats and liberal commentators need to stay on-message with positive aspects for change, rather than regress into the whining bunch of self-pitying, name-calling, slogan-slinging, party without a voice that they have been for the last 7 years.

Boo-hoo. First, Bush stole the vote. Then he lied about the war. Now Cheney's got an itchy trigger-finger and isn't the most responsible hunter in the world. I've heard plenty of reasons why I shouldn't vote for Republicans, but I have yet to hear a compelling argument for why I should vote for a Democrat.

And you were all so close to getting me!

Posted by: jw | February 13, 2006 9:09 AM | Report abuse

jw, part of the reason that so many school systems are closed this AM is that many neighborhood roads aren't clear enough for schoolchildren to wait for their busses.

The roads may be passable, but a bunch of kids standing on a slick road is probably more liability than the lawyer-rich DC suburbs are willing to bear.

Speaking of which, d'you think that Cheney's going to get sued over this?

If he treats his friends like this, and we can see what he's done for those he's trying to protect, I wonder what he's doing for those he loves. After all, tomorrow's Valentine's Day.

Beware Cupid's Arrow, Mrs. Cheney!

bc

Posted by: bc | February 13, 2006 9:12 AM | Report abuse

I know some fairly "cool progressives" that just barely made it down the stairs at WTC, and they didn't mention anything about holograms or squib charges. Just bodies falling from the sky.

Where were you that day Mr. Laughrey? Running for your life?

Or is this another George C. Deutsch, now unemployed and bored?

Posted by: asdg | February 13, 2006 9:15 AM | Report abuse

David,

First off all I think maybe you were handled a bit to hard by some realy good folk here on the boodle. (I'm sure e.g. Cur and you would get along fine if the topic was less political.)

But you raised an interesting point when you said that some people who didn't serve are hypocrical when they attack Bush and Cheney for not doing the same.

I think that the honest answer is that those people didn't run for president. Both Bush and Cheney chose to do a youb that includes desiding when/if to send people to war. If you want to do that, you better be sure to explain why you didn't go yourself when normaly you would have.

Posted by: Eurotrash | February 13, 2006 9:16 AM | Report abuse

SCC: Even though having Bush and Cheney doing "a youb" would be funny, I think I meant "a job".

Posted by: Eurotrash | February 13, 2006 9:18 AM | Report abuse

Fromm the Gang that couldn't shoot straight.......guess what we got here is a failure to announce.......

Posted by: Neil B. | February 13, 2006 10:01 AM | Report abuse

First of all, let me say that I have laughed so hard that it hurts. I mean literally hurting. I laughed out loud, so loud, and it felt good. I don't mean any disrespect to our elected officials, but the comments are funny.

To TBG, if I had stayed up all night and tried to put into words what you have so eloquently done, I would still be trying. Good job.

Loomis, as always those nagging facts always show up in your comments, as always good work.


Rhyne, not only is Martin Luther King's dream forgotten in Georgia, but in many of this country's African-American communities. You make excellent points about the need to do more. It is true.

Joel, you've outdone yourself on this one. I believe you might be able to garner comments on this one topic for the rest of the week.

And like the poster above, I can't wait for the late night guys.

Posted by: Cassandra S | February 13, 2006 10:28 AM | Report abuse

Dear Curmudeon, the "squibs and holograms" guy is apparently a well-known troll. I have a small collection of his posts at IndyMedia, SmirkingChimp, Alan Arkin's Early Warning, etc. which are nearly identical cut-and-paste jobs with an occasional re-ordering of sentences.

Just another front in the disinformation war, either amateur or not. Intended to discredit another guy with the name of Scott Loughrey (just the 'a' different) who *is* asking questions about how the buildings went down. Wonder why they'd bother to do that, unless... nevermind.

Posted by: asdg | February 13, 2006 10:38 AM | Report abuse

I wonder if the story went differently. Imagine if the poor guy was just approaching him from behind, and Cheney who must be running totally paranoid and delusional by now, just turned around and blasted the sucker thinking that it was one of his enemies coming to harm him.

Posted by: Julio | February 13, 2006 10:40 AM | Report abuse

My comment posted yesterday seems to have dropped some lines -- maybe I did it inadvertently myself by deleting a part of it, but here's what I wanted to write:

Well, you know the old saying: "a bird in hand is worth two in the bush." The person who asked why this doesn't happen when Scalia is around, needs to keep in mind that accidents like this, can have serious consequences for the courts and the nation. It is not funny. Do you think maybe he (the person who wrote that comment) thought he (Cheney) could get a bird and Bush and become President?

That part was not meant to be funny -- it isn't. Rather, it's pretty serious that the Veep gets his jollies by going out to kill birds with the attendant risk of injuring companions. I clarified who the "he" refers to above.

Now, what I thought was the mildly funny part:

This gives a new meaning to Attorney-client privilege where the client gets to diss the attorney ... big time!

Well, in retrospect maybe even that isn't funny.

If this guy weren't so destructive in everything he touches, he'd be fun!!

Maybe not.

Sorry about the first post ... didn't convey what I was getting at.

Posted by: bwana | February 13, 2006 11:22 AM | Report abuse

It would be nice to see the MSM report on a few factors related to this story:

1) How will Harry Whittington pay for his medical expenses? Medicare? Private Insurance?
2) Did Dick has a hunting license?
3) As you have already asked, did he bag that or any other quail?
4) This accident shows that the vice president himself could be shot. What does the Secret Service say about putting the vice president in such danger?
5) Will Dick's hunting license be suspended because of this accident? What happens to normal Americans when this happens, under the law?

But I doubt they will. They'll instead take Karl Rove's spun press release and say that all is well and no one is upset. According to the press this happens all the time. Really? I know plenty of people who hunt and I have not heard of anyone ever shooting someone or getting shot while hunting. I'm sure it happens but it cannot be that common. Just another Bush Administration screwup that America will have to live with. We'll probably pay for Wittington's medical care and, now, medicine, through Medicare. It will be interesting to see whether Cheney calls what he did a mistake. It would be the first he has ever admitted to.

Posted by: Sully | February 13, 2006 11:37 AM | Report abuse

jw wrote:
"Boo-hoo. First, Bush stole the vote. Then he lied about the war. Now Cheney's got an itchy trigger-finger and isn't the most responsible hunter in the world. I've heard plenty of reasons why I shouldn't vote for Republicans, but I have yet to hear a compelling argument for why I should vote for a Democrat."

So who do you vote for? Do you sit at home on election day and not vote? Do you say to yourself I won't vote the liars and crooks out of office because the Democrats don't have a message?

Why not look at the democrats web site where they outline their priorities? You might see something there that Fox News and Rush Limbaugh wouldn't report. Educate yourself!

Posted by: Sully | February 13, 2006 12:12 PM | Report abuse

Sully, not to get into things too much, but please refer to Tom Toles' cartoon today. That pretty much summarizes how I feel. http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/opinions/cartoonsandvideos/toles_main.html

As to educating myself, I've tried. But all I find is some variation of "We're not Bush" or vague platforms that don't have any connection to reality. Don't tell me what you're going to do--tell me how you're going to do it.

I'm a resident of Massachusetts, so for the primaries, I register for whichever party seems to have the best chance of winning the general election and I vote for the candidate I most agree with. In the years when there is an incumbent, I vote on the ballot of whichever party doesn't hold the White House. In November, tend to avoid the polls except in special circumstances--Mass. isn't exactly a swing state.

Posted by: jw | February 13, 2006 12:23 PM | Report abuse

Sully, as to your questions above: I could be wrong, but I believe that they were on a private reserve, and given Texas's rather libertarian attitudes towards gun ownership my guess would be that you don't need a hunting license to shoot stuff on private property. Good point though--if he weren't the V.P., what would the penalties be for this type of accident?

Posted by: jw | February 13, 2006 12:27 PM | Report abuse

jw: Try http://www.democrats.org/ and select the "Agenda" button. You can read about the democrats positions on various aspects of government. Some might surprise you.

The "we're not Bush" arguments of the democratic party are nothing more than the result of the democrats being in the minority and thus acting as an opposition party. Don't confuse attacking Bush with having no ideas.

I also avoid the polls since its like telling a job applicant what you want to hear from them before the interview. I'd rather a candidate say what he really cares about then let me make up my mind, instead of reading the polls and then agreeing with the majority position, which seems to be what typically happens. Polling should be outlawed as a method that weakens democracy.

Posted by: Sully | February 13, 2006 12:35 PM | Report abuse

This is not the first time a Bush is embarrassed by a Quayle....

Posted by: LadyMac | February 13, 2006 1:16 PM | Report abuse

Hopefully, the old guy who got shot will die. That way there will be one less Republican donor, the Feds will get some of his estate, and the Vice President can cut a notch on his belt.

Surely, we all can agree that this story is much lighter and more entertaining than the repetitious crap from Iraq.

Posted by: Tom Canick | February 13, 2006 1:20 PM | Report abuse

Thanks Sully, I'll do some reading. But unfortunately, while doing the "How many posts before someone compares Bush to Hitler test" it only took reading 10 posts to get there.

Posted by: jw | February 13, 2006 1:20 PM | Report abuse

You might want to see someone about those anger issues, Tom.

Posted by: jw | February 13, 2006 1:25 PM | Report abuse

Lot of posters on this blog seem to have a need for remedial anger management classes.

Posted by: David from Augusta | February 13, 2006 1:42 PM | Report abuse

>remedial anger management classes

Maybe we could get a group rate with Rush Limbaugh and Bill O'Reilly and learn how they hide their sunny, easy-going outlook.

Posted by: asdg | February 13, 2006 1:57 PM | Report abuse

Think so? Go up 5 posts and read the one from your colleague who wants the man who was shot to die.

Posted by: David from Augusta | February 13, 2006 2:27 PM | Report abuse

One acquaintance points out how heart-healthy it was for Cheney to be taking some exercise.

Why couldn't he just go for a swim?

Posted by: Karl | February 13, 2006 2:34 PM | Report abuse

"We're not Bush" was quite adequate last time around. I heard Kerry took dang near forever to get his Senate office organized way back in the day. This worried me. Yet even so...

Now let's discuss whether "libertarians" are evil because they sound sort of like "liberals."

Posted by: Russ | February 13, 2006 2:58 PM | Report abuse

OOH, ooh, I got one!

Cheney with shotgun in one hand, other hand in Bush sock puppet: says, "A hand in the Bush is worth two birds, any day!"

Posted by: Russ | February 13, 2006 3:00 PM | Report abuse

>Think so? Go up 5 posts and read the one from your colleague who wants the man who was shot to die.

Or you could go up three posts and see that someone's already taken him to task for it.

Posted by: asdg | February 13, 2006 3:56 PM | Report abuse

Yes I'm angry with the men running this country, and yes, I take special pleasure when they err and do something silly like shoot one of their own in a hunting mishap. If the old fart's death causes Cheney problems, then I'll send his family a Christmas card.

Posted by: Tom Canick | February 13, 2006 4:15 PM | Report abuse

No reason to figure out 6:36:23 PM, just another trying to make the same point by posting in an entirely inappropriate place...

Now on to Cheney. Let's just not give senior citizens guns. Problem solved, case closed.

"What is that, Agnus? Looks like a bird to me!" *squints*
"Oh no, Harold! That was Roger!"
"Oops, oh well, let's go to Country Kitchen Buffet."

Posted by: twbk | February 13, 2006 4:20 PM | Report abuse

Now if we can get Bush and Cheney hunting with each other, maybe they can zero out the country's main two problems....too many duck and quail of course.

Posted by: Smitty | February 13, 2006 4:40 PM | Report abuse

I really hope the Secret Service reads these blogs. Free speech is fine, but when it shades off into talking about the death of the President or Vice President it goes too far, like shouting "fire!" in a crowded theater. Reminds me of the NPR commentator who expressed the hope a few years back that Clarence Thomas' wife would feed him high cholesterol foods so he would die early. Are these posts really representative of the thinking of liberals and members of the Democratic Party -- the "Party of Tolerance"?

Posted by: David from Augusta | February 13, 2006 5:05 PM | Report abuse

If anyone but Cheney (or maybe Bush -- remember that poor kildeer) shoots a fellow hunter who is in plain sight, it's called reckless. But if it was reckless, it was a crime in the State of Texas. Texas Penal Code § 22.01 provides in part:

"ASSAULT. (a) A person commits an offense if
the person:
(1) ... recklessly causes
bodily injury to another, including the person's spouse ..."

Maybe that's why Ms. Armstrong is so intent on placing the blame on Harry's very sore shoulders.

Posted by: Buck | February 13, 2006 6:03 PM | Report abuse

By now Cheney should know that not all Republican lawyers are Quayles and don't need to be shot on sight.

Brings a whole new meaning to "point and shoot" when with your friends - I wonder if he will become the new spokesperson for Kodak cameras.

I presume the same amount of advance planning and foresight went into pulling the trigger on Iraq.

Posted by: Ray | February 13, 2006 6:36 PM | Report abuse

Yes David from Augusta, we are totally sure Secret service is reading this blog, at all times, after all this is the administration that belives in "listening in" to every conversation...

Posted by: Anonymous | February 13, 2006 6:36 PM | Report abuse

As a citizen of Austin I am amazed the city attorney's office had to hire a hitman even if he is the V.P. to take out Harry Whittington Esq..Lord knows we need the parking downtown but this time they may have gone too far.

Posted by: Jim in Austin | February 13, 2006 7:12 PM | Report abuse

What a cheap shot! Bush flew dangerous fighter aircraft not paper airplanes. How you can ridicule him on this score is beyond me.

Posted by: Mike Finn | February 13, 2006 7:24 PM | Report abuse

David from Augusta writes:
'Are these posts really representative of the thinking of liberals and members of the Democratic Party -- the "Party of Tolerance"?'

David, thanks for participating in the Boodle. (In case you're new here: My blather at the top is the Kit, the comments are the Kaboodle, also known as the Boodle.)This is an open forum. I rarely delete comments. This can be problematic, in that some people push the limits of what you and I would consider civil discourse. But just so we're clear: They speak for themselves, not for this blog or, I'd venture, for any broader ideological or partisan group.

Posted by: Achenbach | February 13, 2006 7:25 PM | Report abuse

'This is not the first time a Bush is embarrassed by a Quayle....' posted by LadyMac is the funniest thing posted about this and I cannot see it being surpassed.

Way up, someone asked about the VP avoiding red meat. He is. Quail are poultry.

Posted by: Anonymous | February 13, 2006 7:41 PM | Report abuse

Too irresistable a topic:

In case there were any doubts, it is now truly clear that the Secret Service are NOT there for the protection of friends, guests and bystanders.

I wonder how a 76-year old in an orange vest was able to sneak up on the VP? Just imagine what Al-Qaeda could accomplish if they tried a young buck in some camoflauge.

I presume that Cheny will be volunteering for some public service announcements now on gun safety to make sure that people know that its not guns that kill people, its people that kill people. I am sure the NRA would fund him through campaign contributions.

Is it customary after events like this to take a gun safety curse? Maybe Rummy can join him.

Posted by: Ray | February 13, 2006 9:16 PM | Report abuse

You sir are a rank idiot. Add football to W-O? boy i guess that was supposed to be funny. FYI that no one else in the world doesnt care for "football" either.

Posted by: Alf | February 13, 2006 9:22 PM | Report abuse

Is this the administration plan for avian flu? Send Dick into the wilderness with his band of doctors Strangelove and Lecter on a hunting excursion....

A hunting accident has never been so funny. The fellow ain't dead, so what's fowl is fair, gringos. It's funny because Cheney shot a guy who was wearing bright orange at a distance of ten yards. All while the damage-control consultants in Dick's coterie are saying that the gunshot victim walked into some pepper spray. Or he was sprayed with pepper. Or peppered with spray. Or Cheney plugged him with bird shot in his face. What a dangerous man! I mean the one who walks into the line of fire. The line of fire, something that Dick knows nothing about, unless he's in the mood to surprise you with his shotgun. This is no tragedy. This is comedy.

Not to mention that only a hunting accident could embody the incompetence and bloodlust that drive this Christ-forsaken administration - which apparently likes to send Americans home in body-bags even when it's taking the weekend off. Can't wait for the next few days of the Daily Show and the Onion later this week. Bring it on, Dick. You better bring the buck-shot to put this redneck down. That's a taunt, not a threat, Uncle Sam - bring your toys too.

Posted by: Fowl Play | February 13, 2006 9:50 PM | Report abuse

Dear Mr. Achenbach: Thanks for the reply. I know the posters here don't represent any official organized group, but I think they are fairly representative of Post readers, many or most of whom are liberal Democrats. 'Nuff said.

Posted by: David from Augusta | February 13, 2006 10:08 PM | Report abuse

David, y'ever hear of a libertarian? It's what all the good Republicans used to be prior to moving into the suburbs and getting fat and greedy and all wanting to mind other people's buziness.

Democrats look for excuses. Republicans look for loopholes. Libertarians look for their keys. And when a libertarian comes across a loophole, he turns it into a noose to hoist himself up for his best Nathan Hale impression.

King George XLIII and his courtesans wanna raise hell? Well I re-raise wiretaps to the 666 area code. Straight Texas Hold'Em style Dawg. 'Nuff said.

Posted by: Fowl Play | February 13, 2006 10:31 PM | Report abuse

Under the theory of the unitary executive, it's O.K. because Cheney actually shot himself.

Posted by: Rich | February 13, 2006 11:21 PM | Report abuse

Another tragic example of white-millionaire on white millionaire violence.

Posted by: sarah | February 13, 2006 11:33 PM | Report abuse

One would think that all it would take is an incident as priceless as the VP of the United States of America to bring out the truth from the Bush Administrations public relations office. For the last two days Scott McLellan has been bombarded with the question, what took the administration so long to respond to the accident that occurred on Saturday? Scottie boys only defense for Cheney was that they wanted to make sure that Mr. Whittington was taken care of. Ok, called the ambulance. Got him to the hospital. Met with his family. He's alive and kicking. Wonderful. Now what? It's still Saturday night. Hmmm, oh yeah lets see who O'Reilly is berating on the factor... How hard has it gotten for a government administration to tell the truth? All they have to admit to is that they wanted to investigate the situation and get all of the facts straight from the parties at hand; or in O'Reilly terms to think up a good spin to put on the situation so that they could shift as much blame as feasibly possible away from Dick who just shot his friend in the face and to make sure that everyone in attendance is aware of how the incident actually occurred. I still don't understand how it would have taken a whole 22 hours to process the equivalent to a police report but thats still a more notably and realistic response than making sure that Whittington had all of the resources needed. For... I guess going to the hospital. The whole resources area is where I get lost. Point being... If an administration can't give a transparent and sincere explanation for a reasonable accident, then what is it going to be traspaerent and truthful about?

Posted by: TJ | February 14, 2006 3:49 AM | Report abuse

A waste of time...a huge waste of time...everyone just sitting around being clever about this while the Republicans DO WHATEVER THEY WANT to poor and innocent people! When are we going to pull ourselves together and promote our POSITIVE liberal agenda? Yesterday I posted this was a Karl Rove trap (and I am a lawyer), and today I am more convinced than ever! Let's wake up!!

Posted by: Dorothy from Columbus | February 14, 2006 5:41 AM | Report abuse

This whole event is just so funny! The Republicans are like the Wicked Old Witch and Dick just dumped ANOTHER bucket of water on their head. Good Lord, I am loving this!!!

Seems like the only time I hear about grumpy (to put it nicely) Dick is when he's swearing in the Senate, snarling at anybody who disagrees with the dictatorship commonly referred to as "the Administration", or when he is blowing away something (birds or old men) with a gun on yet another vacation -- much like Junior.

Regarding Dems not having any ideas... I agree to a certain extent, but I'd rather vote for someone with dreams and aspirations than someone with bad ideas, i.e. the classic Republican.

Posted by: Dude | February 14, 2006 8:24 AM | Report abuse

Cheyney drunk? The FIRST check in a hunting accident is always if alcohol or drugs were involved. The delay in Cheyney and his host reporting the shoolting and refusing to allow Cheyney to be interviewed by the police immediately afte the incident is very likely explained by his blood/alcohol level and his host providing the drug. Yet another coverup by Cheyney and gang. Why isn't the Fourth Estate doing its job and demanding details on Cheyney's sobriety during and after ther shooting?

Posted by: Mike | February 14, 2006 10:31 AM | Report abuse

This incident is humorous and there's nothing like humor to reiterate a painful truth.

The current Administration likes to hide, to obfuscate, to blur lines and truths when it suits them. They haven't been honest about ANYTHING; from Bush's military service records to Hurricane Katrina preparedness to Cheney's hunting accident.

Why break a pattern that's working for you?

Blame the victim, wag the dog; whatever. The result is the same.

Nothing. The Dems, the Liberals, the Libertarians, the moderate Republicans DO NOTHING.

We laugh, we drink our lattes and drive our single-passenger cars and think that our biting sarcasm is enough.

Enough for what?

Where IS the outrage? We can't be this passive.

Have we already given up?

Game, shot, match. (no pun intended). The Republicans are on the verge of imploding. Who is the Democrat, the Libertarian, the Progressive who is going to tilt the balance?

We still have a LOT of work to do.

Posted by: amo | February 14, 2006 11:55 AM | Report abuse

YOU WANT THE TRUTH????
YOU WANT THE TRUTH????

YOU CAN'T HANDLE THE TRUTH!!!!!!

You want me in this BLOG...You need me in this Blog!!!!

I'm online journalism's equivalent of ExLax!!

Posted by: The Lonemule | February 14, 2006 1:27 PM | Report abuse

Occifer, I was not drinking. (hick up)

Stamp? What stamp? I'm the Vice-presnident! I don't need no stinkin' stamp! All I need is another stop at the guns/beer/ammo/gas place. Maybe I can sneak in one of them tasty chili dogs, too! (burp)

Please, Occifer, don't call Junior -- he can't handle the pressure. Call Karl! Yeah, he'll bail me out! Um, how much is this gonna cost?

Hey, who did I actually shoot? Good thing this didn't happen when I was drinking, I mean shooting with my buddy Scalia.

Posted by: Dick | February 14, 2006 1:41 PM | Report abuse

The White House Republicans will NOT live this one down! Time to act quickly. And the quickest way to establish some credibility in this Presidency is for Cheney to step down. Stepping down for "health reasons" is the easy way out. His has been a media liability for a l0000000g time! There's the question of his clandestine involvement in his company while holding office. His health. His downright arrogance. With a hot war going on, dumping Cheney quickly would de-fuse the home fires.

Posted by: samtheoldaccordianman | February 15, 2006 5:29 PM | Report abuse

I am so sorry about Harry. I guess there weren't enough bullet proof vests to go around. Put the blame on the Donald (R). Too many of these precious garments going to Iraq and Afghanastan, not enough for Dick's friends?

By the way you proud veterans that were willing to die for your country (and I am one of you): Our current active military are very much willing to do the same. I thank God for them every day. My son is serving now, he really has no clue about the politics, he is just doing what he is told to do. Unfortuantely, these young men and women are not dying for "our" country. They are dying for "ideals" of the elected politicians and greedy americans unwilling to reduce their dependence on oil. What happend to the 55 mph limit? Turn the thermostat down. Car Pool. Gosh, am I so old that those are things that they did in the "good old days?"

Posted by: EDB | February 15, 2006 5:47 PM | Report abuse

EDB -- I've heard that old song before. Although you will continue to slavishly repeat some democratic matra "it's all about oil," it is REALLY about terrorism. The downside is that they don't let the S3 shop do their covert work, otherwise the war would be over by now. It would be echo tango suitcase.

Posted by: samtheoldaccordianman | February 15, 2006 8:39 PM | Report abuse

If he was just hunting quail, why didn't he go to Indiana and look for Dan?

Posted by: gonegator | February 15, 2006 11:53 PM | Report abuse

There's an article on the long-term implications of the Cheney friend-shooting incident at the Irony Party of Australia's electronic pamphlet... entitled Cheney Outgunned by Iraqi Quail Hunter. Article's at http://www.ironyparty.org/ipa16thfeb06.php

Posted by: valquez | February 16, 2006 5:48 PM | Report abuse

If you peel the layers, it isn't about oil, it isn't about terrorism. It's about drugs. But no one is talking about that, they are talking around it.

Posted by: edb | February 17, 2006 11:51 AM | Report abuse

Ah yes! "Every kiss. Every hug. To me is just a drug. You're getting to be a habit with me. Oh, your face. Oh, your arms. I'm addicted to your charms. You're getting to be a habit with me."

Posted by: samtheoldaccordianman | February 18, 2006 11:24 AM | Report abuse

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