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Bad Sports at World Cup, and Other Rubbish

I couldn't believe the Czech team didn't pull a player after getting up 2-nil. Everyone knows that's insurmountable in World Cup soccer, in which 1-nil is considered a high-scoring match, 2-nil a blowout. Yo, whatever happened to sportsmanship???

For those not paying attention, we lost 3-0. Let's just say the margin was a mere field goal. Our guys played hard, but the American team made a huge strategic blunder by playing against a team that was much, much better. I hate to be a Monday afternoon quarterback, but surely there was some country out there that would have been a wiser opponent for the crucial first round match. Like, Tasmania. The Falklands. The scrappy but undermanned squad from the Galapagos. We need to plan these things more carefully.


In other news:

Howie's column today noted that General Motors took extreme umbrage over a Tom Friedman column, and fired off a letter to the editor of The New York Times. But then, Kurtz writes:

GM withdrew a letter to the editor after the paper insisted the automaker not call Friedman's column "rubbish," suggesting instead "we beg to differ" and, when that didn't fly, "not so."

Since when is "rubbish" a term so vile and slanderous that a newspaper won't tolerate it? I can't remember the last time a critic of my writing used a word so mild. It's actually kind of polite, to my ear. It's British English. It's the kind of thing you would shout at the World Cup announcers. Would the Times permit "balderdash," or is that also too coarse? What about "baloney"? What about "fiddlesticks"? It's hard to believe that the newspaper believes that Friedman can't handle anything worse than "we beg to differ," which sounds like supplication, or "not so," which is just one step removed from "nah-ah."

Post Radio: I heard Joel Garreau this morning talking about his story on high school and college kids using smart pills, such as Adderall, Ritalin, and Strattera. Apparently the only way to get into a good college today

is to hit the medicine cabinet, hard:

"Seen by some ambitious students as the winner's edge -- the difference between a 3.8 average and a 4.0, maybe their ticket to Harvard Law -- these 'brain steroids' can be purchased on many campuses for as little as $3 to $5 per pill, though they are often obtained free from friends with legitimate prescriptions, students report."

Garreau's best line may have been one he uttered on the air: For kids today, smart pills define their generation in the same way that Ecstasy defines the generation of "old people."

A great read: Wil Haygood in the Post magazine on being a father figure to his nephew.

And in the Times magazine, Niall Ferguson says we're all piling on the debt. Makes you want to bring a bag lunch to work tomorrow.

[And finally: We have an Evil Filter that sometimes takes totally innocuous comments and gobbles them up, and spews them into the Purgatory of comments "held for review." The only good part of this is that it creates a kind of puzzle: What doth the bot see that we don't see? Here, for example, is a comment that Ivansmom attempted to post today, but which the bot consumed. I tried to post it too, only to be slapped by the bot:

"Cassandra, many happy returns! [It is Cassandra's birthday -- JA]

Y'all be careful in the first year's hurricane. I'm very excited because it rained here today. Twice. Perceptibly. We're still very dry but there is just something magic about moisture from the sky.

I am honor bound to say that Oklahoma has several wineries, and some decent wine has come from them. However, the Casa de Tulsa Chardonnay isn't far off the mark. I like a glass of wine with dinner. Okay, I would like more than a glass, but I try to restrain myself. I prefer Portuguese and Sicilian whites and Greek and Sicilian reds for these hot summer months (June and it is 100 degrees), but part of that is the fun of trying new things. Like so much else in life, wine should be fun.

For coffee, which I drink only to be sociable, I recommend the Vietnamese iced coffee with condensed milk. It will keep you up for days, and oh so tasty."

I'm guessing the bot finds Oklahoma wines to be obscene.]

By Joel Achenbach  |  June 12, 2006; 3:26 PM ET
 
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Frequent lurker, never posted.

Just wanted you to know I just read your Geo Washington book. Loved it. Just as when I read your columns or blog entries, I kept thinking "man, I wish I could write like that!"

After finishing, I used Google Earth to check out the entire length of the Potomac. You're the next John McPhee.

Everyone needs an attaboy now & then.

Posted by: Kari A. | June 12, 2006 4:02 PM | Report abuse

GM's attacking Freidman is amazing, really...

He points out that GM has to stoop to GIVING PEOPLE $1.99 GAS FOR A YEAR TO ENTICE THEM TO BUY SUVs, and GM's surprised someone finds that absurd when using LESS gas is the only way to go?

*shaking my head*

Posted by: Scottynuke | June 12, 2006 4:05 PM | Report abuse

Kari A., are you sure you're not my publicist at S&S??

Thanks. I am proud of the book, which is why I own about 480 copies of it, mint condition, while I await some inspired idea for unloading them. I tried selling them at a yard sale. I sold one. Another guy wanted to buy one for a dollar and I wouldn't let it go at that price. Because I have dignity.

Posted by: Achenbach | June 12, 2006 4:07 PM | Report abuse

The big problem with my Washington book is that I should have chosen a different, and more impressive river. Like, George Washington's obsession with the Nile.

Posted by: Achenbach | June 12, 2006 4:09 PM | Report abuse

There is a rash of the Oilers flags flying off car windows up here. Positively an epidemic but today I saw a car flying the English Flag.

They are going to have to start doing this for curling.

Posted by: dr | June 12, 2006 4:09 PM | Report abuse

dr;

I thought curlers stuck brooms out their windows... *confused*

:-)

Posted by: Scottynuke | June 12, 2006 4:12 PM | Report abuse

re: "the same way that Ecstasy defines the generation of 'old people.'"

Sputter, sputter, snort, gasp, snort, sputter. *face turns purple, wacks computer with cane, clutches chest, struggles to find nitro pills*

Posted by: Curmudgeon | June 12, 2006 4:12 PM | Report abuse

Joel,
I bet you could autograph those books and send them to lucky boodlers (I bet some of us would even pay a fair price for them, not to mention shipping and handling). Maybe it would be a nice summer project for the kids...

Posted by: mostlylurking | June 12, 2006 4:13 PM | Report abuse

Maybe GM could borrow from dr's resurrection of "gee whillakers" in the last boodle.

re: Niall Ferguson's article. Okay, the boodle should be able to help me with this: is is pronounced diplo-dockus or diplod-ocus?

Posted by: SonofCarl | June 12, 2006 4:17 PM | Report abuse

I've seen both the Oilers' and the St-George Cross flags this morning as well. Curiously, both cars had Quebec plates and were on one of the bridges to Ontario. Oilers have supporters everywhere. Losing 3-nil to the Czech isn't that bad, it's supposed to be one of the very strong clubs that may surprise a favorite in the final rounds. Ecstasy is good to improve old people's brain ? I should try some of that.

Posted by: Shrieking Denizen | June 12, 2006 4:19 PM | Report abuse

Cassandra, here is the link to the series on the Underground Railway, hope this works as it was held previously.

http://community.canada.com/ontheroad/

Re: flags on cars - they are everywhere here, looks like a big parade on the highway some days.

Posted by: dmd | June 12, 2006 4:21 PM | Report abuse

Mudge,
LOL. I fell off my walker too.

Posted by: Shrieking Denizen | June 12, 2006 4:23 PM | Report abuse

Are lots of people having problems posting comments, because the Evil Filter is nabbing them?

Hal sez he needs examples. This would mean that, if you compose a comment of more than a few sentences, you might want to save the text before hitting submit. Then, if it's gobbled up, you can email the text to me and we can study it talmudically to see what might have proved offensive to the bot.

Posted by: Achenbach | June 12, 2006 4:23 PM | Report abuse

SoC,

It's spelled "dipolodocus" but pronounced "throat-warbler mangrove."

Sorry, couldn't resist.

:-)

Posted by: Scottynuke | June 12, 2006 4:24 PM | Report abuse

Beautiful piece by Mr. Haygood. Every child should have an Uncle Wil.

Posted by: Nani | June 12, 2006 4:25 PM | Report abuse

on the topic of soccer it is worth reading byran curtis' piece on why intellectuals flock towards the allure of soccer fans.


http://www.slate.com/id/2143321/nav/tap1/


Posted by: discreet | June 12, 2006 4:35 PM | Report abuse

Scottynuke, not brooms. We do stick flags on broom sticks though. The sweeping part keeps the flag pole part from sliding out the window. Its a multipurpose tool. You could do the same thing with a hockey stick, but be forewarned, the a hockey stick has no hold-it-in-the-car part. You need a friend to do that for you. It's ok, but you will end up blowing your beer budget.

Posted by: dr | June 12, 2006 4:35 PM | Report abuse

Another innocuous post, I hope, to go through.
Cassandra, many happy returns.
SonofCarl, diplo-docus. Accent on "o", pronounced "ah". Or so my sons many dinosaur books said.

Posted by: Ivansmom | June 12, 2006 4:36 PM | Report abuse

I think it's dip-lod-uh-kuss. I picked it up in the streets. I await the judgment from Dooley.

Posted by: ScienceTim | June 12, 2006 4:39 PM | Report abuse

"rubbish" - sounds too Londonese and not at all Detroitish. I've heard much, much worse come from the Motor City, GM can do worse than simply "rubbish", jeepers, they let the guy off easy.

Posted by: farfrombeltway | June 12, 2006 4:40 PM | Report abuse

IIRC GM boycotted the LA Times over stuff Dan Neal wrote some time back.

Gosh, those GM folks have no sense of humor.

bc
PS I'll try to compose future comments to read from right to left so you and Hal will be able to read them more easily in the event of problems, Joel.

Posted by: bc | June 12, 2006 4:42 PM | Report abuse

Glad to see the U.S. side scored a "nil" today. And we tied the Czechs in the all-important "own goal" statistic.

Posted by: kindathinker | June 12, 2006 4:43 PM | Report abuse

From my advisor in graduate school--"The correct way to pronounce a scientific name is confidently, while looking the other person straight in the eye."

I've usually heard "di-PLOD-o-kus", although the general term for members of that family is "dip-lo-DO-sid".

Remember, confidently.

Joel, I'd love to buy a copy of your book, since I do a lot of paleontology work on the Potomac River. Especially if it's only $1 :-)

Posted by: Dooley | June 12, 2006 4:46 PM | Report abuse

I self-pronounced it during my dinosaur phase like ivansmom's kids, but I think SciTim is right. Greek origin pronunciation.

Posted by: SonofCarl | June 12, 2006 4:47 PM | Report abuse

>Hal sez he needs examples.

Dear Hal/Joel, I've posted completely innocuous stuff, and then had the whole site go down on me awhile. So you might want to look at concurrency or load issues rather than the actual filter operation.

Posted by: Error Flynn | June 12, 2006 4:47 PM | Report abuse

Joel, you could do a book on Teddy Roosevelt and the Amazon. That's a fairly impressive river. I'm not sure which other Presidents could be identified with a riverine obsession, but there must be somebody. There still are some good rivers left, too. The Mississippi. The Missouri. The Hudson (you've got Washington Irving, at least). The Colorado. And that's just in the U.S. I bet our Canadian friends have lots of famous and important and soul-stirring rivers that I never heard of.

Keep it up and you could get a cool nickname: you could be Joel "River" Achenbach. Ain't nobody doesn't want a cool nickname. Or so I hear, having never had a nickname with the sort of quintessential rightness that is possessed by a truly inspired nickname.

Posted by: StorytellerTim | June 12, 2006 4:48 PM | Report abuse

JA,

a certain unnammed website that sells books is selling your GW book starting at .99. Brand new. I hope you get your cut from that.... it's all about volume (no pun intended).

Posted by: farfrombeltway | June 12, 2006 4:48 PM | Report abuse

Gosh, Joel, if I had known that, I would have ordered my copy of Grand Idea from you, instead of Amazon! I enjoyed it too.

I also bought Captured by Aliens but am waiting to read it till I go to Arizona in a couple of weeks. Gotta have something to read on the plane.

Cassandra, I hope you enjoy whatever you do with that pot!

Posted by: Slyness | June 12, 2006 4:49 PM | Report abuse

I have been unable to post the innocuous comment that Ivansmom emailed me, and so I just added it to the kit, as a kind of riddle for us all. I am pretty sure that the evil bot simply can't BELIEVE that Ivansmom drinks Oklahoma wine.

Posted by: Achenbach | June 12, 2006 4:52 PM | Report abuse

Thanks to all.

Before I forget, I'll take one of those copies too. Heck, I'll even pay $2 *.

If I can get my hands on a copy, it's right after Dawkins, which is followed by Joe Haldeman's The Forever War (given to me today and highly recommended)

(1) Cdn. It's not as Peso-ish as it used to be however. The current estimate is possibly par by 2007 or 2008, so plan your Haute Maine vacations while they're cheap.

Posted by: SonofCarl | June 12, 2006 4:55 PM | Report abuse

that's it !! the posting has to pass the sobriety/believability test. Hence, mucho problemos !

Posted by: farfrombeltway | June 12, 2006 4:56 PM | Report abuse

Incidentally, and if I can be nit-picky, Diplodocus should be capitalized, since it is a formal genus name. The three best-known species are Diplodocus longus, Diplodocus carnegiei, and Diplodocus hayi.

And, as long as we're being correct, formal scientific names are supposed to be in ITALICS! ;-)

Posted by: Dooley | June 12, 2006 4:59 PM | Report abuse

slyness,

I somehow get an inclination that the "aliens" book would be a proper read for an AZ trip... enjoy.

Posted by: farfrombeltway | June 12, 2006 5:04 PM | Report abuse

Slyness, once you're done with Captured we should have a critical mass on the boodle for a contest for the redesign of the cover for the second edition.

Here's a challenge for today: What river should be associated with Bush 43? Clinton?

Posted by: SonofCarl | June 12, 2006 5:05 PM | Report abuse

I think it is the sinister effect of "Sicilian". Let's see.

Posted by: Ivansmom | June 12, 2006 5:06 PM | Report abuse

Mostlylurking, from a book. I will get details for you for tomorrow. I would compare myself more closely to an idiot savant if you skipped the savant part.

When I was 16 my grandmother gave up crocheting doilies because she could not see well enough. She loaned me her books which now pass around between my mother, my sister, my aunt and myself. I learned how read crochet from them and now find I can do the most amazing things. Mostly though, it taught me how to go boldy forward, its only string after all.

Posted by: dr | June 12, 2006 5:07 PM | Report abuse

Don't knock the Oklahoma wine! Though I've never heard of the Casa de Tulsa label (must go search), my personal favorite is the wine from the Tidal School Winery.
The winery is located in one of the old oil-towns (Drumright, OK), one that was formed from an offshoot of Standard Oil. They've taken the school that Standard built for the children of the field workers and have converted it into a winery. It is absolutely beautiful. Plus they have an annual grape-stomp festival. Much fun.

Posted by: TulsaFan | June 12, 2006 5:08 PM | Report abuse

Perhaps the bot was concerned by the phrase "I'm very excited..." a phrase beloved of V1agra-dealers everywhere, not to mention those people with astoundingly great opportunities for savvy investors such as myself.

Posted by: StorytellerTim | June 12, 2006 5:08 PM | Report abuse

Dooley, you're the dino dude, go ahead and be picky. I think it's very important for people to realize that capitalization is not irrelevant when deciphering an obscure tome.

For instance, anthrax is both a disease, and Anthrax is an insect genus. Thymus is a gland or a plant name.

Hal the Schemer (see post.blog) is encouraging readers to moderate by clicking "Removal request" links yet, "it's not for people who you disagree with."

Dandy and all good.

Only one thing...Where are those links?! And can people who abuse these removal requests be banned from using them from their IPs?


Posted by: Wilbrod | June 12, 2006 5:10 PM | Report abuse

SoC- I don't believe Bush 43 would be associated with a river, more like a certain creek without a paddle.

Posted by: Anonymous | June 12, 2006 5:10 PM | Report abuse

Joel, some suggestions for your next book:

Millard Fillmore and the Yangtze

Franklin Pierce and the Monongahela

William Henry Harrison, Curmudgeon, and the Wabash (possibly subtitled "Great Men of Destiny and a Pretty Wide Creek")

Richard Nixon and the Love Canal (I thought about Bill Clinton and the Love Canal, but then thought better of it. Waaaaaay better of it.)

Billie Joe McAllister and the Tallahatchie

George W. Bush and the River Styx

Your very welcome.

Posted by: Curmudgeon | June 12, 2006 5:11 PM | Report abuse

SCC: You're. Including the apostrophe 'n' everything.

Posted by: Curmudgeon | June 12, 2006 5:13 PM | Report abuse

I note that I have never had a comment "held for review." Perhaps it's just my clean-living wholesome lifestyle. I always use the Preview button, which I now consider to be a fetish against the Spirits of the Review. If I promise to review what I have written before finally Submitting it, the Spirits are willing to cut me some slack. That's my theory.

Posted by: ScienceTim | June 12, 2006 5:13 PM | Report abuse

Wilbrod, you're forgetting Anthrax the metal band.

Note that link has music:

http://www.anthrax.com/

Posted by: SonofCarl | June 12, 2006 5:17 PM | Report abuse

On Bad Sports -

There is a good chance that Czech will be tied for 2nd place in the group, so their goal ratio would determine whether they advance or not. Hence, not sitting back at 2-0.

Posted by: marshaki | June 12, 2006 5:18 PM | Report abuse

If I still drank 2 pots of coffee a day, the second one would be all over my keyboard.

Good one Mudge.

Posted by: dr | June 12, 2006 5:20 PM | Report abuse

dr, I thought maybe you were going to object that one of those wasn't actually a real president. Which is why I matched him up with an fictional river.

Posted by: Curmudgeon | June 12, 2006 5:25 PM | Report abuse

Thanks, Tulsafan, for the kind words. The Grape Ranch winery has a big part in the annual Woody Guthrie festival, coming up soon. I won't vouch for any of the wine (my son discourages me from entering the tasting tents) but the music is great.

Here's a couple of Oklahoma aquatic suggestions:

Clinton and Honey Creek
G.W. Bush and Boggy Depot, or perhaps Boiling Springs.

Oklahoma has lots of lakes and creeks, many of them muddy with lurkers. Some Oklahomans will display their skill at noodling -- catching giant catfish barehanded. Sort of catfish wrestling. That tournament takes place in July. I don't really think there is an appropriate wine, though; lots of very cold beer is the beverage of choice.

I agree with DiPLODokcus. Not our favorite, though; too slow and not nearly enough teeth.

Posted by: Ivansmom | June 12, 2006 5:36 PM | Report abuse

George W. Bush, Baia, and the River Styx

George Washington, the Jewish Temple at Onias, and the Nile

Perhaps a collaboration with Baigent?

Posted by: Loomis | June 12, 2006 5:39 PM | Report abuse

On the "smart pills" topic, if you didn't read the article you may not know that these drugs are just rebranding and packaging of amphetamines. I'm generally pretty libertarian and pro-recreational drug, but that strikes me as a little bit irresponsible. He discusses the down side but only after repeatedly calling them "brain steroids" and states that, "these drugs represent only the first primitive, halting generation of cognitive enhancers." Who knew that crystal meth addicts are on the cutting edge of cognitive enhancement?

I also loved the irony of the Partnership for a Drug-Free America (which is a wholly-owned subsidiary of the ONDCP) taking the kids to task. I get the impression that Iraq is basically a pharmaceutical festival for the soldiers and pilots. A couple greenies to keep you awake during those long missions (cf. the lawsuit surrounding the accidental killing of Canadian troops in Afghanistan). A couple of downers to help you sleep when it's R&R time. As long as Uncle Sam is providing the drugs, all is well.

I've always been a little critical of people like Bill Maher who love to spout platitudes about drugs being illegal solely to preserve the monopolies of Big Pharma, but an article like that combined with a couple of other pieces could really get one thinking he's right.

On a related note, I love the mock outrage of baseball writers and executives over the fact that baseball players continue to use amphetamines. Heck, if they were good enough for Mickey Mantle and Hank Aaron, they're good enough for today's players. Greenies in the clubhouse have been the not-so-secret secret of baseball for more than 40 years now.

Posted by: Awal | June 12, 2006 5:41 PM | Report abuse

George W. Bush and the Tigris and Euphrates

Posted by: Loomis | June 12, 2006 5:41 PM | Report abuse

Casa de Tulsa - sounds more like a Tex-Mex emporium in Menominee, MI. Or, if indeed a fermented beverage: "contains the spryness of a young Shirley Jones, the stoutness of the mightiest oil derrick, combined with the murkiness of the Red River and the blandness of miles and miles of nothing."

Posted by: farfrombeltway | June 12, 2006 5:42 PM | Report abuse

Joel,

I'll look for the book at Kramer's. It would be great if you did an informal sort of book signing for a couple of hours now and then on Saturday mornings, let's say at Java House ...

Posted by: OS | June 12, 2006 5:43 PM | Report abuse

SciTim: "Perhaps it's just my clean-living wholesome lifestyle".

I haven't had a post held either. Just sayin'.

Posted by: SonofCarl | June 12, 2006 5:44 PM | Report abuse

Ivansmom, I'm thinking we could equate Bush to Tar Creek (the largest super-fund site in the US).

The interesting thing about Oklahoma is that it has more shoreline than any other state in the US, as well as the furthest inland port. Considering a good portion of our shoreline is man-made, I would like to take this moment in a public forum to thank the dear departed souls of Kerr and Albert who helped build this state from the hallowed halls of the US Capitol. Oh if only we had similar leadership now in this state!

Posted by: TulsaFan | June 12, 2006 5:44 PM | Report abuse

George W. Bush and the D River (world's shortest)

http://freespace.virgin.net/john.cletheroe/usa_can/rivers/shortest.htm

Posted by: Loomis | June 12, 2006 5:44 PM | Report abuse

The interesting thing about Oklahoma is that it has more shoreline than any other state in the US
---------------------
I call (respectfully) "bullfeathers" on the statement above. Granted I'm not afraid to say anything witout prior knowledge or research. And also not afraid to admit when I'm wrong.

If interior shoreline counts, what about Minnesota? As far as ocean shore goes, my vote would be Maryland or Virginia because of the Chesapeake and all the islands therein.

Posted by: Awal | June 12, 2006 5:50 PM | Report abuse

Mudge, in some circles there would be 3 non-presidents in that group!

You know that is downright politically incorrect of me. Mudge you are surely the president of the Achenunion or does that title not apply to your
shop steward status?

Posted by: dr | June 12, 2006 5:54 PM | Report abuse

Gerald Ford and the Water Hazard at the 12th Hole of the Palm Springs Golf Resort (more of a short article than a book, probably)

Posted by: Curmudgeon | June 12, 2006 5:56 PM | Report abuse

Most shoreline?

Alaska, hands down.

Posted by: Loomis | June 12, 2006 5:56 PM | Report abuse

>I am pretty sure that the evil bot simply can't BELIEVE that Ivansmom drinks Oklahoma wine.

There are an awful lot of country names in there, including Vietnamese. maybe it's an NSA hold?

Posted by: Error Flynn | June 12, 2006 5:57 PM | Report abuse

Ulysses S. Grant and the Columbia

Posted by: Loomis | June 12, 2006 5:58 PM | Report abuse

dr,
thanks - maybe we can furtively exchange email addresses and send crochet patterns back and forth across the border. I make a net shopping bag that is pretty neat.

I've had a couple of posts "held for review", but usually what happens is that the post just doesn't connect. I've had this happen late at night mostly, but this afternoon lost one (it was an enlightening discourse on horse psychology - and contained the word "rump"). I think EF may be on to something concerning load issues.

Copying before sending, just in case. Previewing too.

Posted by: mostlylurking | June 12, 2006 5:59 PM | Report abuse

George W. Bush and the Devil's Sinkhole

http://areas.wildernet.com/pages/area.cfm?areaID=TXSPDEVSI&CU_ID=1

Posted by: Loomis | June 12, 2006 6:00 PM | Report abuse

Spare a thought for poor Alaska. Answer to many a U.S. geography question, and immediately followed by "Oh, yeah, Alaska".

Largest, coldest, highest, largest park, most rivers (guessing), most shoreline (sorry, OK).

Posted by: SonofCarl | June 12, 2006 6:00 PM | Report abuse

LL,
I was going to say Woody Guthrie and the Columbia, or Lewis and Clark and the Columbia (not that they were presidents of anything, AFAIK). What did Grant have to do with the Columbia?

Posted by: mostlylurking | June 12, 2006 6:02 PM | Report abuse

SonofCarl-

Oh yeah, Alaska.

It has all the reasons that I like MD and VA, and much more. Aren't there even Alaskan fjords?

I hereby retract (redact?) my prior vote and change to Alaska. But I still don't see any way it's Oklahoma.

Posted by: Awal | June 12, 2006 6:03 PM | Report abuse

achenbach, you and your readers are nearly an uninformed as marc fisher and his minions

Posted by: soccer | June 12, 2006 6:04 PM | Report abuse

soccer, we already know we are making most of this stuff up, so you are going to have to clarify.

Posted by: dr | June 12, 2006 6:10 PM | Report abuse

Mostlylurking, you can mail me at canadianneedlesatyahoo.ca I will give you my address from there.

Posted by: dr | June 12, 2006 6:15 PM | Report abuse

Speaking of Canada and Alaska: George W. Bush and the You Con?

dr, I am only the lowly shop steward. The last union president we had was supposed to have lunch with Jimmy Hoffa, and hasn't been heard from since. No one has agreed to take over that particular position since.

soccer, Fisher may have minions, but Joel is proud to have us toadies and parasites. So watch it, dude.

Posted by: Curmudgeon | June 12, 2006 6:19 PM | Report abuse

marshaki is right on. In spite of today's awesomely entertaining game, Italy tends to play one-nil ball, so more goals for Czech may put them on top of the group, drawing a 2nd-place finisher for the next round. The US just happened to be the team sucking it up on the other side of the field (and they would have done the same, were they able).

This wasn't the final; this was the first game of three in which goal difference may mean not playing Brazil in the next round.

Posted by: ape dersen | June 12, 2006 6:25 PM | Report abuse

I was going to suggest Achenbach's "acolytes". "Minions" are good, too, but apparently Fisher has that locked up. Personally, I always wanted to be a "henchman".

Posted by: SonofCarl | June 12, 2006 6:26 PM | Report abuse

SonofCarl, I'm shocked! And you a lawyer! You KNOW that should be "Henchperson."

Don't let me have to mention this again.

Posted by: Curmudgeon | June 12, 2006 6:31 PM | Report abuse

"Enablers" is more like it.

Posted by: Achenbach | June 12, 2006 6:37 PM | Report abuse

Franklin Pierce and the Piscataqua (and who cares what Maine sez, they don't have a President of their own yet anyway).

:-)

Posted by: Scottynuke | June 12, 2006 6:39 PM | Report abuse

Satying late at the office, Boss? Time to get home for dinner with the ladies.

Posted by: Curmudgeon | June 12, 2006 6:42 PM | Report abuse

Sycophants?

Posted by: Scottynuke | June 12, 2006 6:43 PM | Report abuse

"Achenbach's Aggrandizing Acolyte" is available as a Boodle handle.

Posted by: Scottynuke | June 12, 2006 6:45 PM | Report abuse

Re: easier teams to beat in the worldcup. Tasmania isn't a country, although it is a very nice state in Australia. This morning, just before the USA played the Czechs, Australia beat Japan 3 goals to 1.

Posted by: BrettM | June 12, 2006 6:46 PM | Report abuse

'Mudge, he COULD be telecommuting. But don't tell anyone, he'd get dropped even lower in the parking space list.

:-)

Posted by: Scottynuke | June 12, 2006 6:46 PM | Report abuse

Just who's enabling whom? Achenbach's the one that gets personal mention in performance evaluations in at least two countries.

BTW, Gore and the Okefenokee

Posted by: SonofCarl | June 12, 2006 6:48 PM | Report abuse

My guess on why ivansmom's post didn't make it through is the word "whites" as it sounds like it might have a racist undertone. You know ivansmom and her rants (just kidding!)

(It'll be interesting to see if this makes it through. I guess that will prove me wrong.)

Posted by: TBG | June 12, 2006 6:49 PM | Report abuse

Just in case you were worried.

http://today.reuters.com/news/newsArticle.aspx?type=healthNews&storyID=2006-06-12T201034Z_01_N12263964_RTRUKOC_0_US-COFFEE.xml

Posted by: dr | June 12, 2006 6:49 PM | Report abuse

Well.. I was wrong. That doesn't happen often, does it? ha ha ha

Posted by: TBG | June 12, 2006 6:50 PM | Report abuse

"Telecommuting" sounds so 1994. I am experimenting with the old-fashioned technique of sitting at my actual desk at work. But am outta here.

Remember to turn the lights out.

Posted by: Achenbach | June 12, 2006 6:53 PM | Report abuse

>so 1994

A colleague's daughter recently said to him "Oh dad, that's so Twentieth Century"

Posted by: SonofCarl | June 12, 2006 6:57 PM | Report abuse

mostlylurking,
Grant was stationed at Fort Vancouver on the Columbia, but he was a long way from the Presidency then.

Posted by: Loomis | June 12, 2006 7:01 PM | Report abuse

SonofCarl,

>Achenbach's the one that gets personal mention in performance evaluations in at least two countries.


That's a snortworthy comment if I've ever heard one. Thanks! [as she cleans up her keyboard]

Posted by: TBG | June 12, 2006 7:02 PM | Report abuse

A world cup is not like an asymetrical war in which we can choose which weaker country to attack. Everything is done by random selection. I am not saying that behind the scenes manipulation has not ever had a hand in the outcome (France's victory over Brazil in France '98 was suspect), but it is not as easy as choosing the weakest opponent.

Posted by: adolfo doring | June 12, 2006 7:09 PM | Report abuse

ROFL, farfrombeltway! How crazy is it to go to the desert for the Fourth of July? Actually, we're attending a retirement dinner and then plan to visit the Grand Canyon.

Posted by: Slyness | June 12, 2006 7:16 PM | Report abuse

just went to the NYT website. Seems Bush wants Iraqis to create a fund with oil revenue, a fund that would help build loyalty to the new government.

He mentioned repairing infrastructure that Saddam had let decay.

Could someone please help me figure this out?

He didn't mention the almost daily sabatoge on pipelines and other oil infrastructure. He didn't mention that Iraq currently imports oil because it's own oil production is so wrecked due to war.

This sounds a lot like the idea that oil revenues were going to pay for the war.

Froomkin had a column today on the "sea change" (not his words) of breakthrough ideas that Bush was coming up with.

If this is an indication of the sea change, well . . .

Really, am I missing something here?

Posted by: nelson | June 12, 2006 7:20 PM | Report abuse

A Bush administration official said the oil fund idea was loosely modeled on the Alaskan fund that distributes oil wealth to all citizens.

Oil revenue would be distributed to all citizens of Iraq, which would make them loyal to the Green Zone government.

(Why, that's pretty socialist. What does Gov. Frank Murkowski think of this?)

This, after three years?

I wonder if the whole Gang has now lost their last tenuous hold on reality.

Posted by: nelson | June 12, 2006 7:29 PM | Report abuse

Wow, SonofCarl, I read "The Forever War" when it first came out ('77?), and a couple of times since.

Good stuff.

I like the sound of the term "syncopants".
Is there something wrong with me?

Never mind, don't answer that.

Can I be the Bagman?

bc

Posted by: bc | June 12, 2006 7:53 PM | Report abuse

Admit it, bc;

You really just want to drive the BagMobile and watch for the BagSignal...

:-)

Posted by: Scottynuke | June 12, 2006 8:12 PM | Report abuse

Slyness, we're going to plant sunflowers as Nani suggested, which I think is a great idea. I hope the kids like it too. Thank you, Slyness for the pot, and for thinking of me.

Thanks for the birthday wish, Joel.

And thanks to you, dmd, for the link. That is so cool. And I know I'm sounding really 1960, but I love the clacking noise, and so much information. Harriet Tubman was still living when my grandfather was born. For all her hard work she lived in poverty the latter part of her life, and that was sad. I've always wanted to visit Canada. I hope I can before my life is over. I also wanted to visit New Orleans, but I'm not so sure now. It would probably hurt too much. Just wanted to walk around and look at the sights, not during Mardi Gras or anything like that, just off season. Charleston, New Orleans, and Canada. The three places on my list to visit.

We've had some really bad storms here yesterday and today. Power outages, and trees down. It has been really hot and humid. I have tiny green tomatoes, and so many. I do hope they grow and grow, without interference from anything. I don't have them tied up, hoping the winds don't blow them over.

Posted by: Cassandra S | June 12, 2006 8:13 PM | Report abuse

Banner ad across the top of the sports articles on Washingtonpost.com this evening includes these lines:

===

Salute Our Nations Heros

Nationals Veterans Appreaciation Night

==

Apparently the editors over at the Nationals' ad agency missed the lessons on spelling and apostrophes.

Reminds me of the electronic sign I saw on the beltway recently: "Speed Limits Strickly Enforced"

Posted by: TBG | June 12, 2006 8:30 PM | Report abuse

Hey, you phonies incapable of engaging in a debate - it must be tough having to duck every issue because of some slight or perceived committment by the other side.

Not that I don't have experience watching you all run away from any 'challenge'.

I guess if you can argue the facts, argue the facts. If can argue the law, argue the law. If you can't argue the facts or the law, pound on the table.

So dismiss me and don't answer anything, like the intellectual fascist that you are.

Mostlylurking says:

"Paul Wellstone is dead. I'm not sure why you're invokng his name, but thank you for reminding us about someone who seemed to care about the "little guy". I didn't know he was such a terrific capitalist - good for him (hope his heirs didn't get hit too hard with the "death tax")."

Too funny! Do you imagine he was running a small business out of his Senate office?

How do you get $12 million in 6 years when you are a member of the U.S. Senate, answer: You are corrupt!

(Where did the money come from?)

Mostlylurking,

Do post exerpts of your rebukes of the endless criticisms blogged by leftists of Ronald Reagan. I pine awaiting your rationale why you will not, and cannot be expected to provide these.

Dooley rebukes:

"I was a student at Carleton when Paul Wellstone was teaching there, and during his first Senate campaign. He was actually one of the most popular and respected professors on campus, by both students and other professors. I considered him a friend."

Dooley, I too knew the former Senator from when he was head of the Minnesota Jesse Jackson campaign in 1988.

I was an alternate delegate for JJ and met with the Senator numerous times, I volunteered for his campaign, he was an exceedingly gracious person and I was quite saddened when I heard of his death; but like the gutless idiologues that you are you cannot admit the Senator was as corrupt - worse - then anybody else - which is why I respect Republicans more - at least they are not huge pretend-anti-corporate hypocrites lining their pockets.

Dooley the 'harpy' (Ann Coulter reference) says:

"Thank you so much for your blind-side, off-topic, unjustified attack on a dead man."

It must seem off topic, since only liberals get to be off topic (usually involving the word 'Haliburton') but I have recently seen several WWWD bumper stickers.

So having wooven the WWWD demographic into the fabric of your looniness I thought I should answer the question: "What would Wellstone do?"

A bunch of hypocrites wouldn't find that funny and of course it wouldn't track with them, so I apologize.

I know you are all so concerned about "Intimidation by classification". Boy, I would be intimidated too if I was incapable of writing a column about the Iraq war that actually came out and clearly said that terrorism was bad and that killing terrorists is a good thing.

I would be afraid of being classified as someone who never writes anything bad about the terrorists and never writes anything good about the President - an enemy of the President who is indifferent to the terrorists, hmmm?

I wonder why that is not how you would want to be 'classified'?

Maybe it's because you all are incapable of drawing any moral distinction between the U.S. and al Qaeda ('freedom fighters, no different than Americans during the revolution').

Just how many spokesmen/women are left in the Democratic Party or among their fringe hacks that you haven't disavowed?

The Republicans may be bumbling clowns (I have written that in a variety of ways, more then a few times) but at least they err on the side of not getting us killed!

Best of electoral luck to you with that twisted world view.

Oh, and please let me hear one of you phony civil-libertarians argue on my behalf that I have as much right to hold my views as anybody - I would drop over in a dead faint if that happened.

Release the detainees from Guantanano and replace them with the truly evil Rush Limbaugh, Ann Coulter and Michelle Malkin.

Sharia law demanding death and disfigurement to women who violate it is just an alternative perspective, which we have no right to question -- but if you are a Republican, prepare to be decapitated!

Phonies one and all!!!

Posted by: Erik | June 12, 2006 8:36 PM | Report abuse

Glad you liked it Cassandra, I must admit I was impressed as well. The site will become a summer project for my older daughter and I. Its a great learning site for her (she's 10).

Posted by: dmd | June 12, 2006 8:46 PM | Report abuse

I'm a bit late here, but many Happy Birthday wishes to Cassandra!

Posted by: pj | June 12, 2006 8:55 PM | Report abuse

"(Iraq) oil production is so wrecked due to war."

Yes, it's wouldn't be the terrorists that the American left constantly says we are unable to stop that did it, the terrorists whose enemy is the primary target of American liberals.

Another liberal phony, Nelson, incapable of drawing distinctions between the terrorists and the terrorized:

"He didn't mention that Iraq currently imports oil because it's own oil production is so wrecked due to war."

Hey Nelson, just wait - the children of the looney left will tell you that you don't need to answer any of my criticisms because they think I am bitter and angry.

So when I ask you:

"Just who did blow up those pipelines?"

Please continue to run away like the chicken bleep you all are.

Of course the answer would be that terrorist Islamo-fascists blew them up, but you would like to pretend that Bush is culpable because... there are so many brainless "progressive" cliches to plug in here I can only guess which one you would use.

Maybe it was the Massad, or Haliburton...

Posted by: Erik | June 12, 2006 8:56 PM | Report abuse

Erik,

Give it a rest, buddy. Check out Emily Messner's "The Debate" blog; it's full of happy folks like you. Your debating skills are being wasted here.

Posted by: your humble servant | June 12, 2006 9:10 PM | Report abuse

I think Erik would love our mommy blog over at

http://blog.washingtonpost.com/onbalance/

The folks there seem to share his sensibilities.

Posted by: Mommy | June 12, 2006 9:25 PM | Report abuse

Just a sampling from Erik:

"children of the looney left...liberal phony...phony civil-libertarians...you all are incapable of drawing any moral distinction between the U.S. and al Qaeda...A bunch of hypocrites... gutless idiologues... phonies incapable of engaging in a debate... intellectual fascist... Phonies one and all... incredible hypocracy of the left... supercivilized civil-libertarians... runs away unable to make a coherent arguement.
.. festering fringe...a bunch of spineless, self-hating leftists... the fascists will return in the guise of the anti-fascists...a bunch of intellectual fascists...a hypocrite... your nihilistic world view... the leftist view is guided by a deep seated self-hatred... meaningless dribble... they lose the ability to distinguish between good and evil... you are more closely aligned politically to someone like Zarqawi... making such basic moral distinctions is tough for such civilized people as yourself...a member of the "our constitution is a suicide pact" lobby... yourself and a handful of the ladies auxiliary of the Workers of the World"

OK, Erik, we get your point.

Posted by: Dooley | June 12, 2006 9:34 PM | Report abuse

Cassandra,
may your tomatoes grow full, red and sweet.

And the sunflowers too!

Posted by: nelson | June 12, 2006 9:54 PM | Report abuse

Dooley et al.,

Please note that most, if not all, of those are available as excellent boodle handles.

:)

Posted by: TBG | June 12, 2006 9:55 PM | Report abuse

Rants in the pants?

Sorry, folks, but Tulsafan is right re: shoreline. I'm pretty sure of it. Though the shorelines are sadly diminished (that whole no rain thing)Oklahoma has an astonishing number of lakes, rivers, creeks, cricks, etc., not counting farm ponds, PLUS the inland waterway (Port of Catoosa, anyone?). Lots of shoreline.

My son has more than once pointed out we're no longer in the 20th century. Of course, he refers to me as a Luddite. I try to explain a Luddite would never use a computer as much as I do, but apparently it doesn't count if you don't use it for fun. I explained that the Achenblog is fun, but he's not buying it.

Last time I previewed, following ScienceTim's advice, and it worked like a charm.

Posted by: ivansmom | June 12, 2006 10:02 PM | Report abuse

TBG,
I especially like "meaningless dribble" - ha! Pretty much describes most of my posts, and it's very funny besides. "gutless idiologue" is good too.

Posted by: mostlylurking | June 12, 2006 10:09 PM | Report abuse

sex, sex, sex!

Posted by: Miss Toronto | June 12, 2006 10:14 PM | Report abuse

well Joel---looks like the Evil Filter isn't doing it's job :)

glad I didn't try anything more provocative.

Posted by: Miss Toronto | June 12, 2006 10:15 PM | Report abuse

Italy pummeled Ghana---looked good on the 80 incher.

now, let's see if this gets gobbled.

Posted by: Miss Toronto | June 12, 2006 10:17 PM | Report abuse

Miss Toronto,
Here in Lower Canada sex is seldom enough to rate a censor. Censer, maybe, in some media and entertainment outlets. The Evil Filter is probably adjusting to the times. Let's see -- if sex isn't taboo, what is? Not soccer, baseball or coffee. Not wine nor rivers neither. Perhaps the Evil Filter is belatedly trying to put together a "manners" requirement (does not apply on the Mommy Blog).

Posted by: ivansmom | June 12, 2006 10:23 PM | Report abuse

Cassandra-

Happy Birthday! May the Lord bless you and keep you and give you peace. And plenty of visits from adoring grandkids, and plenty of perfectly ripe tomatos, and gorgeous sunflowers to smile on your days.

Posted by: one of the lurkers | June 12, 2006 10:35 PM | Report abuse

Whoops. I certainly didn't mean that you, Miss Toronto, or any of the rest of us who HAVE run afoul of the Filter Gods today were unmannerly. That would be both inaccurate and rude. Rather, I was wondering whether the Filter's excesses today were hiccups as it evolves into a different tech form.

Posted by: ivansmom | June 12, 2006 10:36 PM | Report abuse

"meaningless dribble" is worth the price of admission! I think I will do it in needlepoint.

Posted by: nellie | June 12, 2006 10:41 PM | Report abuse

I hope I'm not jumping to conclusions, but I'm thinking Erik might have gotten himself upset about something.

Posted by: kindathinker | June 12, 2006 10:42 PM | Report abuse

no umbrage taken at this end Ivansmom

:)

Posted by: Miss Toronto | June 12, 2006 10:49 PM | Report abuse

Ronald Reagan is, like, so 20th century.

I don't really know much about Paul Wellstone (what kind of a lefty am I?). People in public office get all kinds of "opportunities" and I don't doubt that many make lots of money they wouldn't otherwise. I don't know that they're all corrupt, or that Wellstone was. If he was, he ain't no more.

Erik, you're entitled to your views. What we don't like so much here is name-calling. And this is a humor blog (most of the time), so we rarely stay on topic for long, and tend toward the silly, inane, trivial, light-hearted, slightly demented - but still civilised - sorts of things.

Posted by: meaningless dribble (mostlylurking) | June 12, 2006 11:23 PM | Report abuse

Hey, Miss T, haven't seen you around the water cooler lately.

Kids, I have to undergo (with my entire department) two days of alleged "training," all off-site, so I won't be my usual blogging self for the next two days. Then, on Thursday and Friday, I'm helping a friend deliver a boat, so will likewise be out-of-pocket. I'll try to drop in during the evenings, if I can, so everyone behave yourselves. bc, you're acting shop steward until I return. If you can get Hal the Schemer to institute italics, more power to you. Try not to have any Rovestorms while I'm gone. If anything happens and you need the bunker, the key is under the potted bougainvillea next to the green Adirondack chair. (Please replace any Coronas that you may require during your period of shelter. I think there's some leftover crab dip in the fridge, help yourselves, but you better eat it quick before it spoils.) (Be careful playing pinnocle with Slyness; you have been warned.)

When I return, you may count on it that I have been darned well trained, and your tax money well spent. (*snort snort*)

Posted by: Curmudgeon | June 12, 2006 11:37 PM | Report abuse

I have not even read the kit, but I had to share this. Check out the pictures at this site. There are 100 apartments, each is only 10 feet by 10 feet. Amazing what people do with their space.

http://photomichaelwolf.com/100x100/

Wow! I've never boodled this late. Should've passed on that iced coffee.

Posted by: a bea c | June 13, 2006 12:00 AM | Report abuse

Cassandra, sorry I missed your birthday by 25 minutes or so. Hope it was very happy.

You have to wonder what kind of life Erik is living if he has to come here to vent in such a way. I'll gladly be all the things he's calling us if I can be happier than he is.

Posted by: a bea c | June 13, 2006 12:27 AM | Report abuse

Achenblog: geography (and any other kind of)pseudo-facts debunked here!

From the Oklahoma water facts website:

"Oklahoma has approximately 11,611 miles of shoreline, slightly less than the estimated combined general (nontidal) coastline of the Atlantic, Gulf, Pacific, and Arctic Coasts (12,383 miles)."

http://www.owrb.state.ok.us/util/waterfact.php

This is from iloveny.com:

"New York State has 70,000 miles of rivers and streams, 127 miles of Atlantic Ocean coastline, 9,767 miles of shoreline which includes 8,778 miles of lake shoreline, 231 miles of shorefront on Long Island Sound, 548 miles of bayfront in Long Island area and 83 miles of shorefront of islands near Long Island."

http://iloveny.com/info_center/state_facts_geo.asp

The reason, I think, that Oklahoma advertises its shoreline number is that they are trying to counteract the impression, resulting from the Dustbowl days (and thank you, John Steinbeck) that it's a very dry state. But also, because by a quirk of geography, Oklahoma's lakes have way more shoreline than you would predict. It's for the same reason that terry cloth is absorbant. (A towel looks flat, but it has a huge amount of surface area when you look closer.) They are man-made lakes in hilly terrain and that results in extremely irregular shorelines.

Now that everyone except the Sooners has stopped reading: ivansmom, tulsafan et al., I am heading out your way in July and could probably make the opening day of the Guthrie festival. Any interest in a meetup there or in Tulsa? Post here or email me at my hotmail address.

Posted by: kbertocci | June 13, 2006 5:31 AM | Report abuse

*SIGH*

So much for those "deputy shop steward" kickbacks to 'Mudge...

:-)

Posted by: Scottynuke | June 13, 2006 7:33 AM | Report abuse

'Morning y'all.
I'm recovering from having my wisdom teeth pulled yesterday. Not as bad as I thought it might be, I'm actually off the strong drugs already, although I do have chipmunk cheeks and am kinda swollen in the mouth area. I was pretty out of it yesterday though.
I caught (or saw, but didn't really process) the U.S. game, pretty disgraceful actually. The U.S. lacked intensity and agressiveness; not to mentioned they just stunk up the joint

Erik: relax man. just breathe. although I do take umbrage with the phrase "meaningless dribble," as when one's jaw, lips, and tongue are numb after surgery, it just kinda happens, ok? gosh.

Posted by: tangent | June 13, 2006 8:08 AM | Report abuse

Good morning, friends. Thanks again for the birthday wishes. Do we still have some chill pills? I believe our friend Erik might need one. For those lurking about God bless you and keep you, and join in, we'd love to have you. I read in the Post this morning that James Cameron has died. The story is an interesting read. It's about lynching in America. Ugly, for lack of a better word. Had the walk this morning, much better. It's not so bad now. Still slightly sore in the legs. It does give one more energy. Mudge, we'll be missing you until you get back. I want everyone to know, the lurkers, and the regulars, that God loves you more than you can imagine through Him that died for all, Christ Jesus.

Posted by: Cassandra S | June 13, 2006 8:21 AM | Report abuse

Whoa, *I'm* "acting shop steward" while Mudge's being trained?

Dooley, I like that bit at 9:34 PM.

As mush as I like "meaningless dribble", I also heart "wooven".

bc

Posted by: bc | June 13, 2006 8:27 AM | Report abuse

bc;

Did I miss the secret handshake at the last BPH or something? *L*

Posted by: Scottynuke | June 13, 2006 8:33 AM | Report abuse

Yeah, Dooley did good. When I saw the post with the rants, I just skipped onward. Why bother to read it? I appreciate Dooley taking the time to condense it for us.

Posted by: slyness | June 13, 2006 8:34 AM | Report abuse

Tangent, enjoy the ice cream and jello.

Posted by: a bea c | June 13, 2006 8:45 AM | Report abuse

Wilbrod wrote yesterday: Hal the Schemer (see post.blog) is encouraging readers to moderate by clicking "Removal request" links yet, "it's not for people who you disagree with."

Dandy and all good.

Only one thing...Where are those links?! And can people who abuse these removal requests be banned from using them from their IPs?

***
First of all, Wilbrod, could you help me out by posting the whole link to "post.blog"? I haven't found it yet.

Second, I believe what Hal is referring to is the link right at the beginning of the comments section, where it says, "Please email us to report offensive comments."

I used that link once, many moons ago, to request removal of a comment. The person was advocating violence and I found the remarks highly offensive. The comment was "disappeared" by the next day.

And, Joel, I recommend you check out Jay Leno tomorrow night to see how George Carlin deals with Ann Coulter--pointers for your next Hugh Hewitt & Friends encounter session.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/06/13/AR2006061300188.html

Posted by: kbertocci | June 13, 2006 9:28 AM | Report abuse

Kbertocci, thanks for the shoreline clarification. I can always count on the collective Boodle to keep things honest.
You're right about the marketing; Oklahoma wants people to know we're not just dry & full of miles of nothing, but actually have some things worth seeing and doing. Y'all visit now, y'hear?

Speaking of which, perhaps a meeting can be arranged re: the Woody Guthrie Folk Festival. I actually plan to go on the Saturday, to hear a friend. Opening day of the festival is also opening night of "Titus Andronicus", and I have to attend that. [See? How many Shakespeare companies in non-flyover land are doing Titus? None, that's how many.] We must consult.

Remember, not all Oklahomans are Sooners.

Posted by: Ivansmom | June 13, 2006 9:33 AM | Report abuse

Ivansmom;

Some Oklahomans are Laters??? What??? :-)

Posted by: Scottynuke | June 13, 2006 9:35 AM | Report abuse

Scotty, I dunno 'bout no handshake.

All this stewarding respons'bility's drivin' me to drink. Slurred typing, pink Republicans, the works.

I took some smart suppositories but I doan' think they're workin'. May have to was them up with some Red Bull.

bc

Posted by: bc | June 13, 2006 9:43 AM | Report abuse

For those of you that also visit the Mommy blog, us parents could certainly use some of your wit and humor. Nnext time you are there, please post something kind or funny. Today's parents are so stressed to the point that they are drugging their own kids, not for the benefit of the children, but for the adult peace of mind.
I have one of those hyperactive, annoying, unmedicated sons. No way in hell would I ever let him take any psycho-active substance unless I checked it out for myself first. This leaves out most of the legal ones like Ritalin. I think the public school systems have got it all wrong, they punish the misbehaving kids by cutting out recess, and what those kids need most is a daily dose of excersize, which to my knowledge, is not yet available through a doctor's perscription. However, I can see this changing in the near future. I can already hear the TV commercial, "If your child is tired, lazy, fat, talk to your doctor about Excersize. side effect may include heavy breathing, sweating, and a slight euphoric sensation that could lead to a temporary drop in IQ"

Posted by: Pat | June 13, 2006 9:49 AM | Report abuse

bc;

I really shouldn't mention the shop steward's regular urinalysis requirement, then...

:-)

Posted by: Scottynuke | June 13, 2006 9:50 AM | Report abuse

All together now: "Sooner born and Sooner bred, and when I die I'll be Sooner dead!"

Ha! My brother is an OU alumnus, and it is the "Sooner State," after all. So I needed the reminder, I was making an unfounded assumption based on my own limited experience! What are you, a Cowboy, instead?

And where's Titus playing? That is certainly a possible outing for my parents and me.

***
Why, there they are, both baked in that pie,
Whereof their mother daintily hath fed,
Eating the flesh that she herself hath bred.
'Tis true, 'tis true; witness my knife's sharp point.
****

EWWWW!! At least, it's not a boring play.

Posted by: kbertocci | June 13, 2006 9:51 AM | Report abuse

Pat, very well said, I also have one of the "busy" kids, we prefer to call her full of life and character. My older daughter has a very large active class this year, whenever the class gets to overbearing she holds the children in for recess - just seems to compound the problem in my view. They are trying to implement a mandatory excercise period in the schools here, a daily minimum amount in addition to gym - hope they can.

Posted by: dmd | June 13, 2006 9:56 AM | Report abuse

Pat, you are so right. I was shocked to find out when my daughter started school that "recess" is pretty much a thing of the past, much less physical education. Schools are so caught up in this cycle: what we're doing isn't working, so let's do more of it. When I was in school, we had morning and afternoon recess and time to play after lunch, too. We managed to learn enough to get by, and had time for gym class, art, music, even square dancing. What has changed?

Posted by: kbertocci | June 13, 2006 9:56 AM | Report abuse

I went to Oklahoma once, in August even if I can't stand the heat. The week started dang hot then it got scorchingly hot and finally it peaked at unsufferably hot. I have to say that taking a stroll at dusk along one of the shorelines (a levee of one of the many reservoirs around OK City) it was almost bearable. The Oklahoma Sooners and Laters, yes ! The Oklahoma Nooners, no !

Posted by: Shrieking Denizen | June 13, 2006 9:58 AM | Report abuse

Pat, good luck. I've read about parents crusading to put recess back in the schools. All children have to move around and let off steam. We are fortunate because my son's school offers daily recess plus separate classes for gym and rhythm & movement. I don't see how anyone expects kids to keep learning when they get too antsy to sit. Yet another unintended consequence of testing requirements.

I sometimes read the Mommy Blog but would never post there -- they'd eat me alive.

Speaking of which, Oklahoma Shakespeare in the Park is presenting "Titus Andronicus" every Thursday through Sunday at 8 pm, July 13th through August 6th. This season OSP is located on an outdoor stage on the campus of University of Central Oklahoma in Edmond (the regular stage burned down and they're exploring permanent options). I enjoyed explaining the plot to our son -- two young men do a very bad thing to Titus's daughter. He goes a little crazy, then takes his revenge by luring the guys to his house, killing them, and cooking them into a pie to feed to their mother. His response: "Cool!"

Posted by: Ivansmom | June 13, 2006 10:05 AM | Report abuse

There is no recess at some schools? My kids still have two, morning and afternoon plus lunch.

Posted by: dmd | June 13, 2006 10:08 AM | Report abuse

Yep, Shrieking Denizen, it gets unreasonably hot here. And no, you don't get used to it. The winds also really do come sweeping down the plain -- hot winds. However, I assure you the evenings are cool enough to enjoy a little Shakespeare outdoors.

Posted by: Ivansmom | June 13, 2006 10:08 AM | Report abuse

Ok, Scotty, jes' show me the cup an' I'll fill it from here. [bc squints, then closes one eye, then the other, taking aim]. Dammit, Scotty, hold that thing still. Still, I say!

Thas' not a stone, folks, thas' a pimento.

Y'know, I think Mudge could do this Foster Brooks bit better than me.

To Pat's point, some people think that if kids actually had to do more physical labor - like the farm work many kids had to do - that there'd be a lot fewer kids on chemicals to treat hyperactivity.

I'll drink to that. And some coffee, too, I' spose.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/06/12/AR2006061201548.html

bc

Posted by: bc | June 13, 2006 10:18 AM | Report abuse

no problem, them Czechs, wait 'til we play them in the World Baseball Classic. As long as they don't offer asylum to a few of them Cuban players, we'll be okay.

Posted by: farfrombeltway | June 13, 2006 10:27 AM | Report abuse

wondering how a vino discussion became and expose on the state of Oklahoma... incredible. HH should read if he wants to find out 'what this blog is all about'.
SOW, remember when the Boomer Schooner ran onto the field of play during the Orange Bowl game (1985). Yeah, ancient history, but was a screamer.

Posted by: farfrombeltway | June 13, 2006 10:47 AM | Report abuse

DMV, I live in Northern Virginia and there is an incredible emphasis on academic achievement. The educators just pile on the homework and figure the 40 pounds of books the kids haul to their classrooms is excersize enough. They serve carefully disguised human consumable petroleum byproducts for lunch and then do studies in an attempt to figure out why the students are getting so fat.

Posted by: Pat | June 13, 2006 10:47 AM | Report abuse

JA,

the blog needs a spell and grammer checker after seeing my previous posts. Can we get one for us non-literary lurkers?

Posted by: farfrombeltway | June 13, 2006 10:50 AM | Report abuse

bc, thanks for the comment on Haldeman's book. I was hoping one of the SciFi fans here would say something validating or not. *end of sucking up to new shop steward*

Ivansmom, for a minute there yesterday I thought you were yet another Canadian. "Lower Canada" is an old name for Quebec (being downriver from Ontario [then Upper Canada]). Been through OK and liked it. On weather, I'll take hot and dry over hot and humid any day.

Pat, too funny on the warning on "Exercize".

Posted by: SonofCarl | June 13, 2006 11:00 AM | Report abuse

I have a hunch, probably wrong as I usually am, so this is a test:

excited and moisture

Posted by: omni | June 13, 2006 11:09 AM | Report abuse

Like your comments Pat, I should note that although my children still have recess, they are limited in what they can do, playground is divided in age groups. My daughter is always complaining that they can't do anything fun because they school is afraid they children will get hurt, more likely the school boards insurance company is afraid the children will get hurt.

Our school is a JK - Grade 8 school. The curriculums have recently be revised and I am constantly surprised not just by how they learn but by the teaching methods. If I had to learn math the way they do, I would be even less knowledgeable in that subject. I keep getting in trouble for showing my daughter different (read incorrect) methods of doing calculations.

Re homework you know its out of control when the kids bring wheeled backpacks to school, as they do here.

Posted by: dmd | June 13, 2006 11:09 AM | Report abuse

FarfromBeltway, you just gotta spew it out there and hope for the best. Boodle, duck and cover.

Posted by: Achenbach | June 13, 2006 11:10 AM | Report abuse

...well so much for that...I wonder if I just post the whole thing...

Posted by: omni | June 13, 2006 11:10 AM | Report abuse

Is Joel saying what I think he's saying when he warns "Boodle, duck and cover"?
He's going to blog about Rove?

Posted by: Achenfan | June 13, 2006 11:14 AM | Report abuse

Omni, good luck. I spent quite a bit of time and effort on that project yesterday. I took out every word and phrase I could imagine would be offensive, including "hot," "moisture," "will keep you up for days," and "Sicilian." I never came up with a version that was expurgated enough to get past the filter.

My daughter was in on the project for a while and she made me laugh by noting that reading for possible offensive content makes every word seem like a double entendre. There's smut everywhere, you just have to have eyes to see it!

Posted by: kbertocci | June 13, 2006 11:18 AM | Report abuse

[If anyone's looking for me, I'll be over at the LiveOnline chat about sleeping and dreaming.
Some weird, wacky stuff going on over there. . .]

Posted by: Dreamer | June 13, 2006 11:20 AM | Report abuse

I thought it was "boodle, drop and roll"?

Achenfan, I was watching a video of "Turandot" recently and thought of you. Some day you'll have to tell us about changes in HK in the last few years.

Posted by: SonofCarl | June 13, 2006 11:21 AM | Report abuse

Working on that filter puzzle also made me think about cryptology, the NSA, and how perfect it would be to use the blog to pass encrypted messages. I'm sure they would be undetectable, especially in a random-subject, highly interactive blog like this one. At the same time, it wouldn't surprise me if the NSA is looking into the possibility that unsavory types are using blogs to pass coded messages. I can't come up with a reason why that would prevent comments from getting online, but it's a thought, anyway.

Posted by: kbertocci | June 13, 2006 11:24 AM | Report abuse

I have a funny, not smutty, penis story.

Posted by: Nani | June 13, 2006 11:26 AM | Report abuse

We're back from Harrisonburg and the dog show world. Boy, Erik was hot about something. I was multitasking yesterday or, IMHO, I consider myself to have been multitasking. We've been renovating the kitchen of late. Thus I've been sanding, watching a bit of the World Cup (1st match, grouting, more World Cup (2nd match, US looks very sorry), plumbing, more World Cup, let out the dogs, more World Cup, more plumbing, play with my son, dinner, hockey, let out the dogs again, more hockey, call my bro, more hockey, call my anti-bro, Carolina wins. My wife didn't think I did a lot of work. I suspect that she doesn't interpret multitasking the same way that I do.

Posted by: jack | June 13, 2006 11:27 AM | Report abuse

...in case any body was wondering where I've been...swamped with a problem at work...after hours and hours that turned into days and days of searching...I finally figured out the problem was with someone else...Well there goes four days of non-boodling I'll never get back...

Oh and Happy Birthday Cassandra (belatedly, but with a darned good excuse).

(And anyone else I've missed recently)

Posted by: omni | June 13, 2006 11:34 AM | Report abuse

Looks like I was wr--- I was not exactly right in predicting another Rovestorm.
On reflection, the duck-and-cover comment must've been related to the "spew it out there" remark.

As Garth said to Wayne in "Wayne's World," while holding out a small paper cup, "If you're gonna spew, spew into this."

Posted by: Achenfan | June 13, 2006 11:37 AM | Report abuse

"Boodle, duck, and cover." Does that mean head for the bunker? Oh, Mudge, where are you when we need you the most? I suspect if we start in on Rove, we just might need two or three bunkers. You know changing up the location.

Posted by: Cassandra S | June 13, 2006 11:38 AM | Report abuse

prior to yesterday's USA/Czech foosball debacle, a prediction on the final score was made on JA's Wine List kit, CZE 2, USA 1. "Close prediction", I'm thinking, but aren't soccer scores all something like 0-0, 1-0, 1-1, 2-1, or 2-2? Not hard to get close with a soccer prediction, challenging part would be to match the score to the proper team. If someone says final score will be 1-1, chances are real good that the prediction will be close.

Posted by: farfrombeltway | June 13, 2006 11:41 AM | Report abuse

JA, if you could publish a list of words or phrases that the filter likes to eat, I sure would appreciate it. Maybe us boodlers could figure them out by ourselves, but that would be a lowbrow kind of thing to do. Right?

Posted by: Pat | June 13, 2006 11:45 AM | Report abuse

Nani, so do I.

Posted by: StorytellerTim | June 13, 2006 11:46 AM | Report abuse

Storyteller Tim, you go first.

Posted by: Nani | June 13, 2006 11:48 AM | Report abuse

jack, good game. My multitasking was waiting for hockey, hockey and moping, all while working on cancer prevention (see link - it's pretty much a full time job):

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20060612.wprosta0612/BNStory/specialScienceandHealth/home

Posted by: SonofCarl | June 13, 2006 11:53 AM | Report abuse

SoC, don't forget to drink lots of coffee to prevent cirrosis (sp) of the liver.

Posted by: dmd | June 13, 2006 11:57 AM | Report abuse

Say, Nani, let me tell you about how I got a plastic tube stuck in my ...

Posted by: StorytellerTim | June 13, 2006 12:18 PM | Report abuse

That's not Storyteller Tim. Okay, my bad. Bad idea. I grovel in mortification.

Posted by: Nani | June 13, 2006 12:23 PM | Report abuse

Nani,

Do not encourage Tim to talk about his penis. Trust me on this one.

Posted by: pj | June 13, 2006 12:40 PM | Report abuse

Sorry, Nani. That really is me. I actually have told this story in public storytelling performances, but I usually start it in a less inflammatory fashion. What I wrote here was the way I started it when I told the story to an old college friend that I hadn't seen in a decade or so.

Posted by: StorytellerTim | June 13, 2006 12:43 PM | Report abuse

Rovestorm on the horizon...he got off!!!

Quick! Board up the windows, gather the lawn furniture, take down the windchimes...

Posted by: a bea c | June 13, 2006 12:49 PM | Report abuse

Well, our Sara has a new last name:

http://www.myspace.com/saramichelle54

Posted by: omni | June 13, 2006 12:50 PM | Report abuse

"White House senior adviser Karl Rove has been told by special counsel Patrick Fitzgerald that he will not be charged in the CIA leak case, according to Robert Luskin, Rove's lawyer."

Posted by: a bea c | June 13, 2006 12:51 PM | Report abuse

Sorry to have a response so late...
The interesting thing about Oklahoma is that it has more shoreline than any other state in the US
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I call (respectfully) "bullfeathers" on the statement above. Granted I'm not afraid to say anything witout prior knowledge or research. And also not afraid to admit when I'm wrong.

If interior shoreline counts, what about Minnesota? As far as ocean shore goes, my vote would be Maryland or Virginia because of the Chesapeake and all the islands therein.
___________________________

OK having the most shoreline is a factoid from the OK Dept. of Tourism. I heard it said the first time roughly 10 years ago, and have heard it mentioned several times since. At first I thought it couldn't be possible either. I've seen the site for this factoid also, and unfortunately can not find it now. So the quote may be as true as "Iraq had WMD when we attacked"

In support of the factoid, I offer our numerous long rivers, the Red, Arkansas, Illinois. Also our man-made lakes of which there are a great many and they are quite large. The terrain of the state is quite surprising to most outsiders.

Posted by: Anonymous | June 13, 2006 12:55 PM | Report abuse

12:55 was me, sticking up for the OK

Posted by: TulsaFan | June 13, 2006 12:57 PM | Report abuse

omni, welcome home. Glad you figured the problem out, even if you didn't solve it.

Sara is a beautiful bride, isn't she?

Posted by: slyness | June 13, 2006 12:59 PM | Report abuse

SoC: The hockey multitask was the best. That match was one for the ages in my book, regaradless of favourites.

Posted by: jack | June 13, 2006 1:00 PM | Report abuse

Alaska shoreline: 54,563 miles

http://sled.alaska.edu/akfaq/akgeogr.html

I guess that definitively closes the topic of whether Oklahoma (11,611 as referenced above) has the most shoreline of any state.

Based on the horrible performance of the USA in Germany versus the Czech Republic, can we also deem the topic of the World Cup closed as well?

And I love how George Bush goes the Iraq secretly and only goes to the Green Zone. Isn't that just a tacit (or not-so-tacit) admission there is that Iraq isn't even remotely safe. It reminds me of one of his biggest PR "coups" ever. In the immediate aftermath of 9/11, as the air transport system was getting back up and running, George flew from DC to Chicago ON AIR FORCE ONE to prove that the air transport system was safe again.

Posted by: Awal | June 13, 2006 1:02 PM | Report abuse

Okay, here's my story. Be forwarned that it's another cutesy reminiscense, so you may want to scroll down.

Our daughter was 3 when she first noticed the difference between her and her baby brother. What's THAT? She asked. Well, dear, that is a penis. Where's mine? She wanted to know. So I explained, using the proper terms, that boys like brother and daddy have penises and girls like she and mommy have V words. (I still have some Victorian insensibilities). She was fascinated. All day each time we saw a male, she'd point him out and ask "He got peenitz?" "Yes dear" said I. The butcher, baker, milkman, mailman, paperboy, constantly all day long, "He got peenitz?" Yes dear. The next day her curiosity seemed satisfied and she spoke no more of penises. A couple of weeks passed and my elderly landlord came by to collect the rent. I always gave him a cup of coffee and a slice of pie or cake and we'd sit and chat at the kitchen table. Enter daughter. She smiles sweetly at the landlord and says "You got peenitz?" Spewing coffee and choking on pie, I start to scoot her out to the back yard when I hear him respond "No honey, I don't got any peanuts. I got some gum though, you want some gum?" She starts screaming at the top of her lungs "He don't got peenitz Mama, he don't got peenitz!". The landlord chuckles and says "She shore likes peanuts don't she, I'll have to bring her some next time".

The End.

Posted by: Nani | June 13, 2006 1:06 PM | Report abuse

Awal, your post reminds me of the Alaskan and the Texan who were hanging out together, the Texan being typically boastful about how BIG everything in Texas is, including the state itself. Finally the Alaskan was fed up, and he said, "Listen, Texas is the SECOND largest state, and if you don't stop bragging, we'll split Alaska in half and then you'll be the THIRD largest!"

Posted by: kbertocci | June 13, 2006 1:08 PM | Report abuse

Taking the plunge into Oklahoma's shoreline once again:

kb's 5:31 am. yesterday (what were you doing up so early) had the following:

"From the Oklahoma water facts website:

'Oklahoma has approximately 11,611 miles of shoreline, slightly less than the estimated combined general (nontidal) coastline of the Atlantic, Gulf, Pacific, and Arctic Coasts (12,383 miles).'

http://www.owrb.state.ok.us/util/waterfact.php

Alaska's shoreline is 33,904 miles:

http://www.worldatlas.com/webimage/countrys/namerica/usstates/akmaps.htm

This is distracting us from important issues, like where is StoTim's poem on bactrian camels?

Posted by: SonofCarl | June 13, 2006 1:11 PM | Report abuse

What I meant to say earlier....was that when one boodles, that is, when one engages in the act of commenting, one then ducks and covers, as in, you fling it out there and hope you didn't make a grammatical error or, as was my mishap, failed to be clear in one's meaning.

I have actually started a new kit but am working on multiple things and probably won't post until later in the afternoon. I know that's crazy. You know this blog's motto: "Publishing Yesterday's News Tomorrow Since 2005."

Posted by: Achenbach | June 13, 2006 1:12 PM | Report abuse

oh, Nani. I had to email that to my husband. Now I have to explain to my study hall why I'm laughing. Not!

My daughter noticed her brother's difference and asked why he was always going poopie. Actually, she noticed first on the neighbors' dog, then extrapolated. She now calls it the "boys' tushie".

Posted by: a bea c | June 13, 2006 1:16 PM | Report abuse

Sorry to re-open the shoreline debate. Teach me to read the whole of the Boodle before I post comments.

Maybe Rove once worked for our Tourism Dept. and this is where he honed his techniques?

Posted by: TulsaFan | June 13, 2006 1:16 PM | Report abuse

Nani - love the peenitz story. My daughter (rapidly approaching 2) is fascinated with why she doesn't have a peanut while her brothers do. Thankfully, that curiousity has not (yet) extended beyond the walls of our home.

On the shoreline thing, I have to give credit to someone earlier in the boodle who brought up Alsaka. My initially proposed states (Virginia and Maryland) both seem to have less shore than Oklahoma's purported 11,000. A quick Google search on the shoreline issue, however, suggests that the calculation of shoreline is not a standard methodology (shocking, I know).

If the point is to suggest how (relatively) wet a particular state is, I point you to the link below.

http://ga.water.usgs.gov/edu/wetstates.html

It shows a ratio of the area of wet land divided by the area of dry land and doesn't include any ocean or the Great Lakes. All you DC-oriented people might be surprised to find that DC (admittedly, not a state but possessing many state-like qualities) finishes second to Rhode Island by that metric. The Reflecting Pool at the Lincoln Memorial must be bigger than I thought. Oklahoma finishes very respectably in the middle of the pack, Alaska somewhat higher. My home state of Colorado finishes a dismal 46th (or would that be 47th since DC is included)

Posted by: Awal | June 13, 2006 1:27 PM | Report abuse

This is an opinion blog as well, so the motto should be
"Publishing Yesterday's News Tomorrow AND at Least a Third Baked Ideas Since 2005."

Posted by: Shrieking Denizen | June 13, 2006 1:31 PM | Report abuse

Should Alaska and Texas join the Dominion of Haute Maine they would be first and 7th province/territories in area respectively. Texas beats Alberta by a mere 15 000 square miles.

Posted by: Shrieking Denizen | June 13, 2006 1:36 PM | Report abuse

Shrieking are you sure, the source I have, excluding small lakes and using only saltwater coastline shows 113,000 kilometres for Nunavut alone (total for country is 212,00. The stats I looked at did not including inland rivers or small lakes (less than Great Lakes). The conversation made me curious this morning to see what the stats were.

http://atlas.nrcan.gc.ca/site/english/learningresources/facts/coastline.html#c4

Posted by: dmd | June 13, 2006 1:48 PM | Report abuse

The evil filter may not like "elekt" spelled properly. Previoius post was sent in detention for reading "Should Alaska and Texas elekt to join the Dominion..."
Totally beats me.

Posted by: Shrieking Denizen | June 13, 2006 1:49 PM | Report abuse

I'm chagrined to see that D.C. is waterier than Fla.

Florida's shorelines are hard to calculate, what with all the shallow lakes that periodically turn to marshes. Not to mention the lake outside of Tallahassee that periodically drains into a sinkhole. Sort of an apocalypse for any resident fish. There's also some problems in that hurricane Wilma seems to have moved some islands in the Dry Tortugas, and probably did likewise in Florida Bay.

Then there's the lakes/retention ponds created as subdivisions are built (check out Weston, in Broward County), or as limestone is mined west of Miami.

Posted by: Dave of the Coonties | June 13, 2006 1:51 PM | Report abuse

I'm talking total surface dmd (dry&wet), this shoreline stuff I can't fathom the importance of.

Posted by: Shrieking Denizen | June 13, 2006 1:51 PM | Report abuse

Ford lost to Carter in the '76 election and the whole GOP suffered Peanuts Envy.

Posted by: farfrombeltway | June 13, 2006 1:55 PM | Report abuse

Thats OK Shrieking I am still confused on what they consider shoreline. Perhaps in our cases we should add dry&wet&and reasonably liveable.

Posted by: dmd | June 13, 2006 1:57 PM | Report abuse

Nani, I'm glad you came through Alberto in a fine storytelling frame of mind.

I feel kinda silly about some of my posts recently. Threw a Bush bomb last nite.

I guess this would be boodling, ducking and covering.

Been stuck at home most of the last 3 weeks. Have very high cholesterol (am skinny and eat responsibly -- this is the genetic kind of cholesterol). My doctor tried Vytorin, but I had just as bad a reaction to it as I did to Lipitor.

Very bad pain and ghastly fatigue.

I live alone, and tend to isolate when I don't feel well. Reality gets a bit skewed (as if it weren't already) when one is alone for long periods. And I get a bit lonely.

SoI hit the boodle and got a wee bit manic.

To make amends, I bought a copy of 'Captured by Aliens' to read on my upcoming family vacation. Also bought local anthropologist's Helen Rountree's book on Pocohontas, Powhatan and Powhatan's brother. It's really the first biography of the Powhatan chief and his family told from the point of view of the Indians.

There's a real bias in historical and archaeological studies here in Williamsburg towards all things English and European. Dr. Rountree is the only working anthropologist who is determined to set this straight. I'm very much looking forward to both books.

Oddly, when you do a search on Amazon under the author's name (joel achenbach), this book doesn't come up. Had to do a separate seach under title name.

Also, glad to report that copies of joel's book on Washington and the Potomac are now starting at $2.78 for used. Better than the 99 cents of yesterday!

Onto tails about anatomical differences:

When I was little, my mother explained the anatomical difference between my brother and me and my two sisters thusly:

His penis was a "tinkle tail." It's how he tinkled. She stayed away from the birds and bees lesson until we had figured that out for ourselves.

We lived for years in a small old house that had no central heating -- there were two heating panels, one in the kitchen and one in the living room.

One night after bath time my brother got too close to the heating panel and burned his tinkle tail (not badly -- he has two kids). I'll never forget him dancing around crying and me and my older sister chanting that he had burned his tinkle tail!

I know this won't even come close to what Tim will post, but Nani's post reminded me of this.

Posted by: nelson | June 13, 2006 2:02 PM | Report abuse

Awal -- Colorado is also my home state. I never minded a bit that it's virtually landlocked. I much prefer the high plains and semi-arid climate of the West than the watery lowlands of the East Coast.

Colorado is the highest state in the Union, elevation wise (although Boulder is doing its best to keep the other kind of Rocky Mountain High going strong).

This is a grand statistic!! All those fourteeners to climb!!

Posted by: nelson | June 13, 2006 2:07 PM | Report abuse

Is it safe to come out of the bunker? We're almost out of crab dip down here.

I recall that measuring shorelines is one of the textbook examples of fractal geometry. The length of shoreline depends on the size of the ruler with which you are measuring it.

I was in Stillwater, Oklahoma a few years ago at OSU (home of the Cowboys) and I was not getting the impression that it was a watery paradise. Oklahoma City does have a very nice water front tourist district though.

Posted by: yellojkt | June 13, 2006 2:35 PM | Report abuse

And Joel's wine post reminded me of this Monty Python bit (which I may have boodled excerpts from before):

WINE EXPERT:
A lot of people in this country pooh-pooh Australian table wines. This is a pity as many fine Australian wines appeal not only to the Australian palate but also to the cognoscenti of Great Britain.

Black Stump Bordeaux is rightly praised as a peppermint flavoured Burgundy, whilst a good Sydney Syrup can rank with any of the world's best sugary wines.

Château Blue, too, has won many prizes; not least for its taste, and its lingering afterburn.

Old Smokey 1968 has been compared favourably to a Welsh claret, whilst the Australian Wino Society thoroughly recommends a 1970 Coq du Rod Laver, which, believe me, has a kick on it like a mule: 8 bottles of this and you're really finished. At the opening of the Sydney Bridge Club, they were fishing them out of the main sewers every half an hour.

Of the sparkling wines, the most famous is Perth Pink. This is a bottle with a message in, and the message is 'beware'. This is not a wine for drinking, this is a wine for laying down and avoiding.

Another good fighting wine is Melbourne Old-and-Yellow, which is particularly heavy and should be used only for hand-to-hand combat.

Quite the reverse is true of Château Chunder, which is an appellation contrôlée, specially grown for those keen on regurgitation; a fine wine which really opens up the sluices at both ends.

Real emetic fans will also go for a Hobart Muddy, and a prize winning Cuivre Reserve Château Bottled Nuit San Wogga Wogga, which has a bouquet like an aborigine's armpit.

Posted by: yellojkt | June 13, 2006 2:38 PM | Report abuse

yellojkt, There are 3 lakes fairly close to Stillwater. But the larger lakes with the lake homes and all that jazz are primarily in the Eastern part of the state. Running from the corner with Kansas and Missouri, down through Oklahoma's Green Country and past Buggtussle.

Posted by: TulsaFan | June 13, 2006 2:56 PM | Report abuse

Dontcha hate it when you have something really good to boodle and then when you are finally through reading the past few hours' worth of posts you reach the "Comments:" box, click inside it and you FORGET WHAT WAS SO DAM IMPORTANT?!

I just hate that.

Posted by: TBG | June 13, 2006 2:57 PM | Report abuse

Buggtussle=Bugtussle

I'm so amused at working Bugtussle into a comment I got over-excited and forgot how to spell!!

Posted by: TulsaFan | June 13, 2006 2:59 PM | Report abuse

If I were a Bactrian camel,
the cold steppes of Asia would be my domain.
With two humps on my back,
so I never would lack,
my lengthy eyelashes fend off snow and rain.
A noble and sociable mammal.

If I were a Bactrian camel,
I'd bite and I'd fight for a fair camel queen.
Fourteen months is the norm,
'fore one baby is born.
We now are so rare that soon we shan't be seen.
A swiftly extinguishing mammal.

Posted by: StorytellerTim | June 13, 2006 2:59 PM | Report abuse

>I recall that measuring shorelines is one of the textbook examples of fractal geometry. The length of shoreline depends on the size of the ruler with which you are measuring it.

Exactly yello. How long it really is depends on how closely you look, as you then start to trace each stream and so on.

There may be applications for that principle elsewhere in life, but I'm too much of a gentleman to say.

Posted by: Error Flynn | June 13, 2006 3:01 PM | Report abuse

I have revised it already:


If I were a Bactrian camel,
the cold steppes of Asia would be my domain.
With two humps on my back,
so I never would lack,
my lengthy eyelashes fend off snow and rain.
A beautiful, sociable mammal.

If I were a Bactrian camel,
I'd bite and I'd fight for a fair camel queen.
Fourteen months is the norm,
'fore one baby is born.
We now are so rare that soon we shan't be seen.
A swiftly extinguishing mammal.

Posted by: StorytellerTim | June 13, 2006 3:02 PM | Report abuse

nelson, I could tell you that story some time, but definitely not here. Besides, there's Rule 6 to be considered.

So, for now, I will just have to leave you ... titillated.

Posted by: StorytellerTim | June 13, 2006 3:04 PM | Report abuse

And once again, I get a risqué post through the Wirty Dird Filter without a hiccup!

Posted by: StorytellerTim | June 13, 2006 3:04 PM | Report abuse

Well done!

Posted by: SonofCarl | June 13, 2006 3:08 PM | Report abuse

If we're going THAT fractal, I probably could prove Texas has the most shoreline... just watch all the cracks in the baked, hard ground fill up when it rains.

Especially if we calculate shoreline versus actual volume of water... ;).

I still think Minnesota is number two to Alaska in sheer interior shoreline. Yo, it's a good size, it's where the Mississippi starts, and it has more like 100,000 lakes, not 10,000 thanks to glacier action scooping out ponds there and here at the end of the ice age.

The proof is in the number of mosquitoes there in the summer. If Oklahoma has enough mosquitoes to blitz a dog with 50 bites in 15 minutes, I'll reconsider.

Go up to the border between Canada and Minnesota and you'll see why the border ain't worth guarding. There are huge lakes straddling the two countries. I looked out at a sparsely populated lakeline from the canada side at night, and had this vision of 1-2 men piling in a long canoe/rowboat, paddling out at sunset, and then gliding silently, unnoticed, flashing their oil lantern in the dark, and docking into a forsaken piece of lakeshore. Even a "modest" lake like that has more surface area than the District of Columbia, I believe-- you can't see the opposing shore.

It's not hard to see why prohibition failed. And yes, I got goosebumps, thinking that perhaps even today some of the people on the lakeshore were still doing that kind of thing.

They got border police on the US side, of course.



Posted by: Wilbrod | June 13, 2006 3:11 PM | Report abuse

re: W in Green Zone safe haven.

well, guess it's not expected that W stroll the streets of Baghdad, visit a few bazaars, sample the local cuisine, examine some Persian rugs, taste some Chateau de Baghdad, and generally mingle with the local populace... He doesn't even get out and about in DC (for good reason).

Posted by: farfrombeltway | June 13, 2006 3:12 PM | Report abuse

Excellent, StoTim!

Boy, am I glad I'm not a Bactrian female. Nine months gestation was tough, I'm sure I'd never last 14!

Posted by: slyness | June 13, 2006 3:19 PM | Report abuse

I've been derelict in my duties as shop steward this afternoon.

Plus, I've been trying to sober up and remain awake while watching the World Cup.

I've posted an update to my Very Own World Cup Coverage here:
http://www.10thcircle.com/10/?p=78

bc

Posted by: bc | June 13, 2006 3:29 PM | Report abuse

At least camels don't have to worry about getting out of chairs once they've sat down. Elephants have nearly 2 years' gestation. I sudder to think about whales.

Posted by: Wilbrod | June 13, 2006 3:29 PM | Report abuse

And I am backskimming the boodle only to realize that Error Flynn made the obligatory Monty Python wine reference a good 26 hours before me. But there is no such thing as too much Python humor.

Great poem, ScienceTim. I think the gestational period for elephants is twenty two months. That's a long time to have to tell your elephant wife she doesn't look fat and you still love her.

Posted by: yellojkt | June 13, 2006 3:33 PM | Report abuse

Blue whales are only pregant for one year at a time. According to the internet, so it must be true, the spiny dogfish has the longest gestational period at 22-24 months.

Posted by: yellojkt | June 13, 2006 3:35 PM | Report abuse

Wilbrod--Whales have it easy. Nothing is heavy underwater. I speak from experience.

And speaking of weighty experiences--I heard a really interesting story on NPR about how astronauts adjust to weightlessness and then re-adjust to Earth's gravity. What's most interesting is not that people can do that, but that SPIDERS can. They said the first time the spider spun a web in weightless conditions, it was terrible, an embarrassment. But in only a few days, the spider adjusted to the new environment and was able to spin a perfectly fine web. Spiders don't even HAVE brains, do they?

One of the astronauts said, when he came back to Earth, the first time somebody handed him something, he took it and said thank you, and then he took his hands away so it would float there in the air until he needed it. He was startled when it fell to the ground. That's a funny feeling. Then the first night he was home, his son was sleeping in the bed with his wife and him. He wanted the child to move over, so he tried to move him by reaching out with his finger and giving him a little push. It seemed funny that the kid was just stuck in one place and didn't move even when he pushed on him.

Posted by: kbertocci | June 13, 2006 3:40 PM | Report abuse

Nani, that's a good story, and I believe you are the only one that could tell a story about "p" and it not be offending at all.

Nelson, sorry you're sick. Medications can be tough. For me it's blood pressure, but I could have your problem too. Your story had me laughing.

Posted by: Cassandra S | June 13, 2006 3:41 PM | Report abuse

>made the obligatory Monty Python wine reference

No worries mate, you were industrious enough to actually provide the whole bloody thing. I was taking a vacation day yesterday and um, actually drinking wine when I posted. :-)

Posted by: Error Flynn | June 13, 2006 3:44 PM | Report abuse

pregnant elephant: Honey, do I look big?
elephant husband: Helloooo, you're an elephant!

Posted by: kbertocci | June 13, 2006 3:44 PM | Report abuse

wife: Honey, do these pants make my butt look bigger?
husband: How could they?

...Okay, I'm done. See you guys tomorrow.

Joel, don't work too hard.

Posted by: kbertocci | June 13, 2006 3:46 PM | Report abuse

Spiders have very basic brains, yes. You might want to google "robobiology" for the interesting stuff that can be done with robots that don't even have microchips.

It's all feedback, baby.

Posted by: Wilbrod | June 13, 2006 3:48 PM | Report abuse

I am feeling guilty right now that I'm attempting to work rather than watching the Brazil match. I mean...It feels wrong, as a citizen of the world, to be doing anything other than watching Brazil play the beautiful game.

Posted by: Achenbach | June 13, 2006 4:00 PM | Report abuse

JA,

don't feel guilty. How many Brazilians felt guilty about not watching US play yesterday?

Posted by: farfrombeltway | June 13, 2006 4:08 PM | Report abuse

I'm waiting for the Brazilian waxes Croatia headlines.

Posted by: yellojkt | June 13, 2006 4:09 PM | Report abuse

Hey guys, I've got a funny penis story too. It's pretty short, but it's really, really cute!

Posted by: I'm Not Telling' | June 13, 2006 4:17 PM | Report abuse

I see the French and Swiss played a perfect game -- no score. That just says everything you need to know about soccer. Turning to America's Pastime, please take note that the Rice Owls are once again headed to the College World Series. Hoot hoot.

Anatomy of an anecdote: When Ivan was about two, he and Ivansdad were discussing male anatomy -- i.e., boys have penises. Went through the list -- Ivan has one, Ivansdad has one, Ivansuncle has one etc. -- then Ivan asks, "Mommy have a penis?" Ivansdad: "No. What does that make Mommy?" Ivan: "Sad?"

After stifling helpless laughter I had to assure him it didn't make me sad. Still doesn't.

Shoreline is indeed an odd measure of attractiveness for tourism; just happened to be the one we stumbled on. I think shore activity is more significant, and once again invite everyone to come watch noodling (don't do it yourself unless you want to lose an arm). There is a nice regatta in Oklahoma City later in the year, now that we don't have to mow our river.

Posted by: Ivansmom | June 13, 2006 4:23 PM | Report abuse

The winning Brazilian goal against Croatia was put in by Kaká.

What a great name.

Posted by: Tim | June 13, 2006 4:24 PM | Report abuse

guess it's not expected that W stroll the streets of Baghdad, visit a few bazaars, sample the local cuisine, examine some Persian rugs, taste some Chateau de Baghdad, and generally mingle with the local populace... He doesn't even get out and about in DC (for good reason)
--------------------

No, I don't really "blame" W for never having ventured outside the Green Zone. But that said, he and his people can't steadfastly imply (or outright claim) that things are getting better in Baghdad and in Iraq until an American, much less the President, can't leave the Green Zone without (much) fear.

I think it's good that W has made these couple of trips to Iraq. My wonder, however, is whether he ever asks himself what it implies that he can't leave the Green Zone.

You'd think that he could at least walk around in Kirkuk or somewhere in the Kurdish region (but I'm sure that there are too many political ramifications for that).

Posted by: Awal | June 13, 2006 4:28 PM | Report abuse

That should be "can leave the Green Zone..."

Is the proper form for corrections SCC?

Somewhere along the line I missed what SCC stands for.

Posted by: Awal | June 13, 2006 4:31 PM | Report abuse

Awal, self-castigating club, IIRC...

Posted by: Slyness | June 13, 2006 4:39 PM | Report abuse

Kaka saves the day as Brazilians win close shave.

Posted by: SonofCarl | June 13, 2006 4:42 PM | Report abuse

OK, folks, I'm back from training. bc, thank you for filling in; you did a swill job. No, that isn't a typo. But don't worry; because of our friendship, I have shredded the 47 complaints I have received about your drinking while being acting shop steward. They won't be entered into your permanent file. (But you owe me $50, now.)

As for the complaints about penis stories, these have been referred to the grievance committee. (Fortunately, the grievance committee hasn't acted upon a grievance since the Internet was invented, so you guys skated on that one, too. Penis stories, indeed.)

Jeez. I take the day of, and what do I come home to? A drunken assistant shop steward, Rove skates, Bush visits Mess'o'potamia, people stampede for the bunker, scotty's in a snit because I picked bc, and Nani--sweet, innocent, grandmotherly Nani, who loves doo-wop and Piaf -- is telling penis stories.

I need a drink.

Some of you probably think being shop steward is a piece of cake, but now you see some of the many issues I have to deal with on a daily basis. As you can see, even bc cracked under the pressure.

scottynuke, will you take the helm tomorrow as acting shop steward? I ought to be able to relieve you about 4 p.m. And just wanted you to know, you've been a brick through this whole ugly mess.

Posted by: Curmudgeon | June 13, 2006 5:04 PM | Report abuse

Kaka. Jeezey-peezy.

*Gets out thick complaint file he just put away, mistakenly thinking he was done for the day, and begins dialing Weingarten's phone number to initiate the emergency poop alert phone tree network.*

Posted by: Curmudgeon | June 13, 2006 5:09 PM | Report abuse

How many is a brazillion anyway?

Posted by: kindathinker | June 13, 2006 5:13 PM | Report abuse

Mudge, in defence of bc's drinking, I re-post the link from my 11:53 a.m. Prostate cancer can be beaten. It's all a matter of willpower.

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20060612.wprosta0612/BNStory/specialScienceandHealth/home

Posted by: SonofCarl | June 13, 2006 5:14 PM | Report abuse

Yeah, saw that, SonofCarl. Trouble is, you have to drink 17 beers to ward off the cancer. But the good news is, there was also a report today that says alcoholics who drink a lot of coffee aren't nearly as likely to get cirrhosis of the liver.

So it seems there is a pretty clear pattern here: drink 17 beers to ward off cancer, then drink 6 cups of coffee to protect your liver from the beer.

The problem as I see it is, you stay healthy, but you never come out of the bathroom, or your penis wears out, whichever comes first.

Posted by: Curmudgeon | June 13, 2006 5:59 PM | Report abuse

To counteract the diuretic effect of the coffee and the beer, you have to eat salty foods like peanuts (that's peanuts, folks). Finally, to lower the elevated blood pressure, you have to take up stress relieving sports.

Live Forever: the Beer, Coffee, Nuts and Golf Wayâ„¢

Posted by: SonofCarl | June 13, 2006 6:16 PM | Report abuse

True....but then you've got on your hands a drunk, hyper-alert maniac in lime green pants and white belt and white spiked shoes swinging golf clubs and cursing, driving a golf cart with his eyes closed as he recites, "Ommmmmmmmmmmm," and trailing a swath of pistachio shells behind him. Plus he's got salt all over his chin.

I think we're talking about John Daly on an average day here, aren't we?

Posted by: Curmudgeon | June 13, 2006 6:25 PM | Report abuse

Exactly. Little known fact is that John Daly is 672 years old. Not quite in your league, but he's always been a strict follower of the Live Forever Diet and so has many years ahead of him.

You might have heard that he started a bit of a ruckus during one of his fat phases when he tried to retrieve his ball from the water hazard/Loch at the Inverness Golf and Country Club. Some of the locals didn't quite know what they were seeing and the stories got out of hand. One of his foursome exclaimed that he couldn't believe that Daly had tried to clear the Loch with a niblick and as Daly came up with his ball the other golfer called out "what a mess, eh?". Well, the lowlander wankers playing with them heard "Nessie" and the rest is history.

Posted by: SonofCarl | June 13, 2006 6:41 PM | Report abuse

>So it seems there is a pretty clear pattern here: drink 17 beers to ward off cancer, then drink 6 cups of coffee to protect your liver from the beer.

Well, each to his own, but I find it's easier to swill coffee like a fiend and work during the day, and drink and watch old TV at night. At least that way you have a deecent shot at passing out.

Posted by: Error Flynn | June 13, 2006 6:51 PM | Report abuse

I'd be honored, 'Mudge...

*carefully laying out riding crop and gloves*

Ve vill haff no trubbles komm ze morgen, now vill ve???

*carefully contemplating that "brick" comment*

:-)

Posted by: Scottynuke | June 13, 2006 7:09 PM | Report abuse

Error, 17 beer doesn't give you "a decent shot at passing out"? Wow. The Error Flynn White House is going to make Grant look like captain of the bridge club.

Posted by: SonofCarl | June 13, 2006 7:12 PM | Report abuse

Mudge, you're back, and in fine form I see. I'm laughing so hard my stomach hurts. The job of shop steward is daunting, so go easy on bc. I suspect the President might not even see the implications of not going out of the zone(I'm assuming green zone is safety?). I'm sure our President loves his life just as much as the next man. We all know Iraq is not a safe place, and we might not know just how unsafe it really is, that, along with other tidbits may very well be information that is not given out. We can only guess to some extent, taking in the daily casualty list as a focal point. Prayer is needed in this as it is needed in most of life's trials. And to those that cringe at the mention of prayer, you got a better idea?

Posted by: Cassandra S | June 13, 2006 7:17 PM | Report abuse

We might not know how unsafe it really is?

Bush didn't even leave the Baghdad airport in '93, and now he makes it into the heavily fortified Green Zone, and this is called progress? His own advisors were expecting him for breakfast this morning at Camp David, his airplane made a corkscrew landing today, and the name cards for his meeting with Maliki were paper, hastily scribbled. Diplomacy by stealth.

Posted by: Loomis | June 13, 2006 7:38 PM | Report abuse

>Error, 17 beer doesn't give you "a decent shot at passing out"?

Sure, especially with tequila chasers. (Dear Patron, I'm available for commercials.)

I'm just saying the sequence is wrong. Coffee and work first, then put the work and car away, THEN apply alcohol internally as needed. To make up for the coffee and work of course.

As a matter of character, I believe it's important for a President to be able to hold his booze for those state dinners, and they should have a wide tolerance for different types. How are you going to get any respect from the Russians if you can't blast down some vodka? Want to woo the French, mention your favorite Bordeaux and then go through two bottles with the PM. Ask for his autograph and slide in a few treaties.

I admit, I'm a throwback. Oh, and expect hats to come back in.

Posted by: Error Flynn | June 13, 2006 7:53 PM | Report abuse

"EF in '08: He'll drink any head of state under the table."

Instant Joe Sixpack appeal. Works for me.

Posted by: Scottynuke | June 13, 2006 8:30 PM | Report abuse

anyone see this? http://people.csail.mit.edu/rahimi/helmet/

Posted by: maggieo'd | June 13, 2006 8:38 PM | Report abuse

maggieo'd, that link has me laughing so much, I'm going to bed and try not to see that in my dreams. Goodnight all.

Posted by: Cassandra S | June 13, 2006 8:55 PM | Report abuse

Hey scotty, I think I found the perfect campaign song - Alice Cooper's "Elected". I just picked up a "best of" CD and found it... forgot all about that one! You have to go to (insert your favorite commercial paid-up-in-full legal provider of online music) and check it out, it's a terrific anthem.

And while we'll try to keep to the high road, if the campaign gets nasty we can go to "No More Mr. Nice Guy".

Posted by: Error Flynn | June 13, 2006 8:55 PM | Report abuse

Make sure you check out the AFDB (Aluminum Foil Deflector Beanie) link, which contains a rebuttal to the MIT study, as well as other critical info:

http://zapatopi.net/afdb/

Posted by: Bob S. | June 13, 2006 9:16 PM | Report abuse

By the way, do you think anyone else is actually gonna use "meaningless dribble" as a handle? MostlyLurking threw it out there for one post, and I'll certainly acknowledge precedence here. 'Cuz that's the one I could easily imagine myself adopting!

Using my name is simple & uncontroversial, but a little boring.

Posted by: Bob S. | June 13, 2006 9:22 PM | Report abuse

"Festering Fringe" is also pretty appealing, but I'm not sure how long it would continue to amuse me. At least "Bob S." doesn't have any built-in creepiness factor.

Posted by: Bob S. | June 13, 2006 9:27 PM | Report abuse

ScienceKid #1 and #2 have recommended the following edited version of my Bactrian camel poem:

If I were a Bactrian camel,
the cold steppes of Asia would be my domain.
With two humps on my back,
so I never would lack,
my lengthy eyelashes fend off snow and rain.

If I were a Bactrian camel,
I'd bite and I'd fight for a fair camel queen.
Fourteen months is the norm,
'fore one baby is born.
We now are so rare that soon we shan't be seen.

Posted by: StorytellerTim | June 13, 2006 9:30 PM | Report abuse

It scans nicely, Tim!

Posted by: Festering Fringe | June 13, 2006 9:32 PM | Report abuse

Mostlylurking says:

"What we don't like so much here is name-calling."

So let's read what the hypocrites are writing:

"Go back to your cesspools of paranoia and hatred, you scoundrels!"

Just awash in peace, love and understanding, aren't they?

"herds of drones cloaked in the security of illusory righteousness, that seek to obfuscate by regurgitating the moral pablum they've been fed"

"Narrowmindedness and parochialism stemming from fear and distrust and a desire for control"

"consider a G0DDAMMED sense of humor implant."

"ditto-freaks"

"I so want to blindly lash out at that anal outlet"

"Somewhere in history there an example of this, and the only circumstance I can think of right now is the KKK."

"Fear is the tactic the Klan used, and in some way, this feels a lot like that."

"Sick. Very sick. A George Bush-gulag nation."

"One gets the sense that the only satisfaction these folks would settled for concerning those that oppose them is violence."

"A verbal beating or a physical beating, it doesn't matter. Take your pick."

"you whine and complain and take issue with absolutely everything that is said"

"Rove-stormers"

"I would continue the discussion, except that you aren't discussing, you're braying."

"a lot of nonsense"

"to heck with you"

"you get badges or something for insulting strangers"

"please quit being so difficult. It makes your ass look big."

"I am not in the mood to waste time arguing with a bucket of rocks."

"a bucket of rocks who already knows everything, so he has no room in his head for alternative viewpoints"

"you're too bitter to play with."

"And you know... if you don't loosen up all that stress is gonna kill ya (unless you're one of Cheney's hunting buddies, of course)."

Yes, these happy go lucky funsters - don't they remind you of Leave it to Beaver or the Wannsee conference... one of those.

Posted by: Erik | June 13, 2006 9:35 PM | Report abuse

If I were a Bactrian camel,
then Man would be quite a strange mammal.
He walks on two legs,
and some teeth are like pegs,
and also has letters like gamma.

(The ScienceDad would prefer to spell out the dialect pronunciations:

If I were a Bactrian camel,
then Man would be quite a strange mammel.
He walks on two legs,
and some teeth are like pegs,
and also has letters like gamel. )

Posted by: ScienceKid #1 | June 13, 2006 9:36 PM | Report abuse

You rock Science Kid #1! How can you be up so late?

Posted by: newkid | June 13, 2006 9:41 PM | Report abuse

Bob S.,
Feel free to adopt "meaningless dribble" as your own. I couldn't resist, but I feel like I have to explain who I am when I use it. If anything, I need to change to a *shorter* name...

Posted by: mostlylurking | June 13, 2006 9:44 PM | Report abuse

NOTHIN' BUT FUNNY
(let's read some of the knee-slapping hijinxs over at Achenblog):

"the wingers twist what you actually said into something they can shout to the heavens."

"The Right's got us building Adobe Curtains"

"making protectivist laws that penalize minorities"

"prosecuting a highly destructuve war that was started on false pretenses or just being plain wrong"

"submitting to reductions of freedoms that our forefathers bought for us and that thousands of Americans paid for with their lives"

"just about every nation in the world hating us"

"utterly ineffective in dealing with the worst (yet predicted) natural disaster in decades"

"with an economy in barely checked inflation and energy costs skyrocketing"

"Propagated the most damaging American social divides in 40 years"

"engaging in the worst kind of transparent pandering to their conservative religious power base"

"The Bush Administration has not proven themselves competent to lead the honorable men and women in our military. Period."

"They've broken our trust, demonstrated repeated incompetence, and are showing signs of corruption in the Executive and Legislative branches."

"They SHOULD expect to be questioned at every turn, as a small price for their untrustworthiness."

"The anger and the hate still here in some form, and those spewing that filth trying to clean it up on a high moral ground."

"some of the folks that are participating in this hateful dialogue, call themselves Christians"

"my hope is for a country that does not relish and enjoy killing and the acts of war"

"if you believe in war and killing, you need to choose some other religion than Christianity"

"These folks don't want to talk details and specifics or even do comparisons."

Here are some of the reviews of the "humor" blog:

"A laugh-a-minute!" - Dr. Jack Kavorkian

"This is my kind of humor!" - Cindy Sheehan

"Joel Achenbach writing to himself is seamless." - Michael A. Hiltzik

"Achenblog deserves to be a movie - who wrote the screenplay for the Zapruder film?" - Sen. Barbara Boxer

"This is how Air-America got so big that they don't need commercials and only broadcast public service announcements." - Susan Sarandon

"I laughed so hard I threw up all over myself!" - Roger Ebert

Posted by: Erik | June 13, 2006 9:44 PM | Report abuse

Erik - I just checked in to see what condition your condition was in:

You definitely have a point that people can be as judgmental here as anywhere. You just happen to have chosen the wrong forum for the points you're trying to make. This crowd (for the most part) doesn't have the interest or stamina to carry on a political conversation for very long, even when one of the regulars is all het up. Ask Loomis or one of the others how long they continue to get replies on point when they get political. It ain't long, typically. Don't think that the regulars here aren't pretty political (I think most of them would consider me pretty right-wing), but very few of them use this as a political forum for very long at a time, because the snickering and general unruliness of the peanut gallery makes it irritating, as I notice that you've noticed!

The forum is what it is, and mostly it's a humorous-take-on-stuff kinda crowd. I understand why you might find it frustrationg, but you're unlikely to change it anytime soon!

Posted by: Festering Fringe | June 13, 2006 9:49 PM | Report abuse

Look Erik, this is like a book/gardening/cooking club, ok?

We don't storm through your crib yelling about black holes, intestinal bacteria and chilli recipes.

Just get it. Have a cold one. And if you have some advice about keeping the deer off my arbor vitaes please speak up.

Posted by: Error Flynn | June 13, 2006 9:56 PM | Report abuse

My goodness, Erik.

Let me try to explain again. We don't call each other names here, so much. It does happen occasionally, when we're goaded, or feeling persnickety or snarky (or think we're being funny). We don't worry about ragging on Bush or others in power, or expressing opinions. But we don't accuse each other of self-hate, or being unpatriotic, or anything - we try to persuade without attacking the person. Kind of like I'm doing with you. Joel brags about what a civilised bunch we are, so I just wanted you to understand.

Oh, and the scroll bar is a wonderful thing to get past comments you don't like.

Posted by: mostlylurking | June 13, 2006 9:56 PM | Report abuse

Okay Erik, now I'm steamed. Where's a quote of mine? You trying to give me a (bigger) complex? I demand a quotation! Hmmph. I'll be in my trailer.

If you're going to stay around, where do you stand on the Oklahoma shoreline situation? Do we have to get into that again?

You clearly invested a lot of time in the posts this evening. How about the challenge of a few days ago? A poem that begins with "If I were a bactrian camel". You have thirty minutes. And...go.

Posted by: SonofCarl | June 13, 2006 10:14 PM | Report abuse

Free wireless at La Quinta Inns!

Pat, your school comments are in large why Mrs. D. and I decided to homeschool our son next year.

On blue whales--they might only carry a year, but the babies are 25 FEET LONG at birth! About 30% of the mother's length. I mean, I know they're streamlined on the way out, but still...

Prius update--a few weeks ago, NYT had an article bashing the Prius' highway performance. So here's my Martinsville VA-Gainsville FL driving report:

Trip made at speed limit, on the interstate wherever possible (speeds generally 65-70 mph), carrying approximately 800 lbs of passengers and cargo (and NO, it wasn't just me, all three Dooleys plus luggage and rocks!).

From Martinsville to the first stop for gas, just south of Brunswick, GA--49.5 mpg. With some provisions--we were actually getting 53 mpg until Columbia SC, when we hit Alberto. With wet roads, heavy rain, and strong crosswind, the mileage then dropped into the low 40s, bringing the average down. At that point, we still had enough gas to reach Jacksonville, but not Gainesville.

From Brunswick to Gainesville we got 43 mpg, still fighting Alberto (but with a headwind).

Not sure what NYT was doing with their Prius, but ours did OK.

Posted by: Dooley | June 13, 2006 10:15 PM | Report abuse

Has Erik been posting again? I hadn't noticed.

Makes me miss the Lone Mule.

SonofCarl, did you see the piece on John Daly 60 minutes did? I don't even follow golf (is Palmer still playing?), nor play, but I thought that was a pretty cool piece--and I wound up kinda liking Daly.

Hint to scottynuke for tomorrow: in the training seminar I had to endure today, someone pointed out that use of the electric cattle prod was generally frowned upon as a morale-building tool.

Posted by: Curmudgeon | June 13, 2006 10:18 PM | Report abuse

hey erik, if you're not feeling poetically inclined, tell us your favorite peanut story instead!

Posted by: L.A. lurker | June 13, 2006 10:21 PM | Report abuse

mostlylurking:

Nicely put. I think that there are VERY few of the regulars who lack the horses under the hood for some really serious denigration and sarcasm, but we've managed to gather a group of folks who'd prefer to leave those weapons in their sheaths most of the time.

Even back when he tried, Joel found that his regulars have only a limited attention span for staying on a particular political topic, or ANY topic, for that matter! But, oh, the fun we have with the digressions! I have a theory that he only introduces political topics in the Kit in order to bring in new blood periodically, since anything noteworthy will typically be brought up here anyway, but won't get any link/headline notice.

Posted by: Festering Fringe | June 13, 2006 10:25 PM | Report abuse

Hereby be informed that Boodle Bunker Hour has now shifted locations temporarily to SonofCarl's trailer in Alberta. So, for an unknown duration, probably pretty short--I'd guess, the party is on at the Boodle Trailer Hour. Lots of good stuff goes on when the shop steward is sleeping.

Of course, when Snuke's on duty tomorrow morning...well?....

Posted by: Loomis | June 13, 2006 10:28 PM | Report abuse

Ooops, forgot to tell Error Flynn : beautiful analogy. Perfect!

Posted by: Festering Fringe | June 13, 2006 10:30 PM | Report abuse

Erik forgot the best quote of all...


"This blog STINKS!" --The Lonemule

Posted by: TBG | June 13, 2006 10:31 PM | Report abuse

Re: gardening club

Unfortunately, the only thing I can grow effectively is dandelions. But I'm REALLY good at that. With my mowing habits, my dandelions look like sunflowers! When they go to seed, there are whiteout conditions on my street!

Posted by: Dooley | June 13, 2006 10:32 PM | Report abuse

I'm hefting one in honor of the 'mule as we speak!!

This blog STINKS!!

Posted by: Festering Fringe | June 13, 2006 10:33 PM | Report abuse

I would like to report that my son and I found ourselves at 16th & K this evening and, needing a couple of cheap cheeseburgers, popped in to the BPH headquarters for dinner.

Achenwaitress #2 was disappointed that omni had actually left for the metro in his tinfoil hat as she was hoping to use it to keep the government at bay herself.

She also said of the BPH'ers, "you guys have the most fun of anyone who comes in here." (She must have missed the threesome at the bar that night.)

Posted by: TBG | June 13, 2006 10:36 PM | Report abuse

>Unfortunately, the only thing I can grow effectively is dandelions.

Well that's why you need the club, right? And you'll probably get a dandelion wine recipe to boot, as well as a side discussion of plant evolution, the physics of light having been recently covered.

Posted by: Error Flynn | June 13, 2006 10:38 PM | Report abuse

Keep us posted, I'll get to BPH one of these nights. It's only unlikely timing that's kept me away so far.

Dooley - In case I stick with this handle (so far it feels reasonably comfortable), where can I find Erik's original contribution of the phrase? I'm still powerfully drawn to "meaningless dribble", but this is starting to grow on me, as it were!

Posted by: Festering Fringe | June 13, 2006 10:42 PM | Report abuse

Dooley writes:
When they go to seed, there are whiteout conditions on my street!

So, this is what passes for snow in southern Virginia? Do you carry a dandelion scraper in your car (for the windshield)?

Posted by: Loomis | June 13, 2006 10:44 PM | Report abuse

If I switch, I'll probably try "Meaningful Dribble".

Posted by: Festering Fringe | June 13, 2006 10:45 PM | Report abuse

Festering, I think it was near the end of the last kit--I can't remember exactly which post. If I get a chance I'll scroll through and see.

Posted by: Dooley | June 13, 2006 10:46 PM | Report abuse

Loomis:

In Del Rio, a butterfly migration came through and THAT was a mess! All day, very thick. Whatever a dandelion scraper is, you needed an extra-strength version to clean the mashed butterflies off the windshield, headlights, road, etc!

Posted by: Festering Fringe | June 13, 2006 10:49 PM | Report abuse

Dooley - Don't bother. It's easy for me to check back a kit or two. I just wanted a general idea.

L-Loo - Even Del Rio got something that (sort of) resembled snow while I was there. It only stuck to the grass, and only for a couple of hours, but apparently I was lucky enough to witness a once-in-a-generation kinda thing!

Posted by: Fest | June 13, 2006 10:53 PM | Report abuse

"Voluminous Boodle" and "Bansai Kittens" are still available.

Posted by: Error Flynn | June 13, 2006 10:56 PM | Report abuse

Forget Joel's next book on Ulysses S. Grant and the Columbia River. The future is Google, supercomputing, and the Columbia River.

First two grafs of tomorrow's NYT:

By JOHN MARKOFF and SAUL HANSELL
Published: June 14, 2006
THE DALLES, Ore., June 8 -- On the banks of the windswept Columbia River, Google is working on a secret weapon in its quest to dominate the next generation of Internet computing. But it is hard to keep a secret when it is a computing center as big as two football fields, with twin cooling plants protruding four stories into the sky.

The complex, sprawling like an information-age factory, heralds a substantial expansion of a worldwide computing network handling billions of search queries a day and a growing repertory of other Internet services.

Posted by: Loomis | June 13, 2006 11:04 PM | Report abuse

SonofCarl says:

>The Error Flynn White House is going to make Grant look like captain of the bridge club.


Can you imagine one of us Amerkins making a comment about a Canadian Prime Minister? How many can we even name?

I am humbled by the knowledge of American history that Canadians possess.

I'll give it a try...


Error Flynn's ego makes R.B. Bennett look like a VW Passat driver!

Posted by: TBG | June 13, 2006 11:05 PM | Report abuse

Uncle Fester...

Dooley's condensation of Erik's manifesto is actually near the top of THIS boodle. Posted at 9:34 yesterday evening.

Posted by: TBG | June 13, 2006 11:08 PM | Report abuse

I found it! [The search was for the original quotes, not the compilation. We are serious researchers here, always going to first sources! :) ]

Wow! I hadn't realized how much longer that 'boodle continued. I had posted a comment at 1:30 in the morning after the 'kit was already a day-and-a-half-old, but Erik managed to rev it up for a significant number of responses on subject. The sheer wealth of sweet quotes that he/she/it/they provided (to include both of my favorite options for new handle) will endear him/her/it/them to me forever!

Posted by: Festering Fringe | June 13, 2006 11:18 PM | Report abuse

Aw, c'mon, TBG, naming a bunch of Canadian prime ministers is easy. OK, here we go. Gary Trudeau. McKenzie Phillips. Earl Grey. Sergeant Preston. Ah...lemme see...John Candy. Joseph Jacques Cousteau. Phillipe Crustacean. Celine Dion. Bobby Hull. Dermott Mulroney. Um...Drew Pierson.

Oh, and the new guy. Valery Harper.
See? Piece a cake.

Posted by: Curmudgeon | June 13, 2006 11:29 PM | Report abuse

TBG, "Uncle Fester" made me snort.

Posted by: Curmudgeon | June 13, 2006 11:31 PM | Report abuse

>Error Flynn's ego makes R.B. Bennett look like a VW Passat driver!

Hey, you want a shrinking violet for President? If you can't believe in yourself, what can you believe in?

Anybody ever run for President with an ego deficit? I don't think so. It's America - we have no king, we can choose our leader, and again and again we choose ERROR. So this time DO IT ON PURPOSE!

VOTE ERROR! Could I do worse?

Posted by: Error Flynn | June 13, 2006 11:42 PM | Report abuse

'mudge:

What we have here is hardly a representative group! A bunch of those who are regularly present could probably toss out a significant number of Mexican el Presidentes, as well as a decent smattering of French, Chinese, German, and assorted South & Central American pooh-bahs just for good measure. (I personally maintain that Benazir Bhutto is still kinda hot!) But I'd wager that most Americans can't name the capital of Canada.

Posted by: Festering Fringe | June 13, 2006 11:44 PM | Report abuse

Yup, if I decide to stick with this handle, I'll definitely have to get used to variations on the theme that never arose much with the "Bob" handle.

Posted by: Festering Fringe | June 13, 2006 11:48 PM | Report abuse

Holy cripes, Fest, how dumb do you think we are? Everybody knows the capital of Canada is Fairbanks.

Jeez.

Posted by: Curmudgeon | June 13, 2006 11:53 PM | Report abuse

Wait a minute. It's Ottoman. (Fairbanks is the capital of Manitova; I had them confused.)

Posted by: Curmudgeon | June 13, 2006 11:56 PM | Report abuse

>But I'd wager that most Americans can't name the capital of Canada.

Speaking of Canada, F1 is coming to Montreal. One of my favorite races. Gotta make it up there someday.

Posted by: Error Flynn | June 14, 2006 12:08 AM | Report abuse

Mudge, what are you doing up so late? Planning to sleep through the "training" tomorrow?

Posted by: bh | June 14, 2006 12:09 AM | Report abuse

F Fringe,
In case you missed it, I've decided against changing my Boodle name - although "meaningless dribble" is quite apt for me.

Why's everybody up so late? Isn't it a school night?

Posted by: mostlylurking | June 14, 2006 12:10 AM | Report abuse

The Evil Bot reminds me of the very early cash machine that North Carolina National Bank (later NCNB, then they gobbled up the Bank of America)had installed. I had a precious BankAmericard (sounds prophetic, doesn't it?), which the Cash Machine would reliably eat and not return if you were foolish enough to insert it at the start of a weekend. Since I was an impoverished student, this could mean raiding the reserve supplies of Bush's Beans or peanut butter. Not being a mammology student, I hadn't learned about peanut butter and oatmeal, which wild mice and rats seem to love.

Coming up to Loomis'e present day, that Google compunter center at The Dalles seems to be the present-day replacement for the aluminum smelting industry. Both servers and smelters need lots of electricity. Couldn't Google set up a cooling system that pipes warm water to the community for winter heat and all-year washing water?

At least The Dalles seems an unlikely place for terrorists, albeit Oregon did host the alleged attempt by the Bhagwan's supporters to reduce the turnout at a local election by ensuring that a popular salad bar was full of dirty germs.

Posted by: Dave of the Coonties | June 14, 2006 12:10 AM | Report abuse

Where is AchenFan? Isn't it lunch time over there?

Posted by: bh | June 14, 2006 12:12 AM | Report abuse

Achenfan was on earlier today...I was just going to add that up here in the great Northwest, it's still light out...

Ok, I'm going to watch Al Gore now...

Posted by: mostlylurking | June 14, 2006 12:18 AM | Report abuse

Dark here in Southen Oregon. Thunder clouds. Suspposedly there has been a full moon lately but you would never know it here. Flash floods yesterday.

Posted by: bh | June 14, 2006 12:24 AM | Report abuse

The Dalles doesn't need terrorists! I had a buddy who (with his brothers) was attempting to start up a dude ranch operation in the foothills a few miles away (an effort ultimately doomed by unintended consequences of regulations put into place to curb the influence of the Baghwan Rajneesh followers in nearby Antelope). On a visit to check out his place, I was there for Independence Day celebrations. We drove over to the (Columbia) river, and settled on a bluff overlooking the Dalles. They managed to set the town and/or surrounding environs on fire (with men & equipment response each time) THREE times during the show, let alone how many more responses may have been necessary due to freelancers. Trust me, The Dalles has plenty of homegrown terrorists!

Posted by: Festering Fringe/Bob S./Meaningful Dribble | June 14, 2006 12:27 AM | Report abuse

I misspelled Baghwan.

One fourth of July in the late 1970s, the mountain overlooking Cody, Wyoming caught fire. Apparently an impressive show. It did make for a lot of fireweed and paintbrush flowers (Castilleja) for the next few years.

Posted by: Dave of the Coonties | June 14, 2006 12:35 AM | Report abuse

Dave, I'm not at all certain that you misspelled it. It's at least as (& probably more) likely that I've gotten it wrong. Heck, it's properly written in a different script anyway, right? All we can do is make approximations!

Posted by: F | June 14, 2006 12:42 AM | Report abuse

A quick internet search convinces me that you had it right with "Bhagwan".

Posted by: Meaningful Dribble | June 14, 2006 12:47 AM | Report abuse

Thanks for asking after me, bh.

I'm just about to hop on a plane for Oz, so I might be a bit scarce over the next few days. I'll probably be able to 'boodle from my parents' house, although I'll be in yet another time zone there. Plus I'm not sure I want to have to explain the whole 'boodling concept to the pares, especially the Dreamer handle -- it might affect their Catholic sensibilities. At least I won't be tempted to wear my Achen-T, since it's winter there right now. (I'm rather looking forward to the cold weather after the humidity of Hong Kong.)

On an unrelated note, there's a character in the (animated) film "Waking Life" who drives down the street whilst yelling into a megaphone, and his face gradually goes through various shades of blue, purple, and red. When I think of Erik, I think of that character. Alas, poor Erik. I hope he feels better soon.

As my sister likes to say, Seizure -- but don't have one.

Posted by: Achenfan | June 14, 2006 2:50 AM | Report abuse

SCC entry:
It might *offend*, not "affect."

Posted by: Achenfan | June 14, 2006 2:52 AM | Report abuse

Sitting in Ottoman, I had to LOL Mudge.
I don't want to be snarky or anything Mudge but sending you in training may seem like a waste of hard-earned taxpayer money (is there any other kind ? easily inherited taxpayer money, trust fund earned taxpayer money ?).
I won't mention old dogs and new tricks but...

Posted by: Shrieking Denizen | June 14, 2006 6:58 AM | Report abuse

I told them that very thing, Shriek, but being the federal govt., they wouldn't listen. Gotta run! (I got a free ball-point pen with a yellow highlighter on the other end out of it, though. Wowie!)

Posted by: Curmudgeon | June 14, 2006 7:04 AM | Report abuse

Good morning, friends. Nice to see you're still with us, Erik, although I don't think you swallowed that chill pill. Go ahead, it won't hurt. And as Vince Vaughn said in "Dodgeball", the results are "phenomenal". I'm ready for the walk, but it raining outside, and I'm not eager to venture out there. Funny comments in describing the family here. When it comes to politics we do have the attention span of small children. Everyone expresses his or her thoughts about certain issues pretty good. Sometimes folks get into a rant, but politics and religion have caused great wars, no wonder people might get overheated in talking about them. I think it is a wonderful freedom that we enjoy in being able to express how we feel, and not be dragged off to jail. I know, sometimes we abuse the freedom, but it is still good. I might not agree with your opinion but you have every right to express it. Yet I do think one should use respect and not fall prey to foul language and ugle talk. An opinion can be expressed without all of that, and if it can't we probably don't need to hear it. It seems we've forgotten that. And I've always believed it to be one of our greatest assests. It made us different than other nations in the world. Hey, did I tell you folks that I love you? Well, I do, and so does God, and He loves you more than you can imagine through Him that died for all, Christ Jesus.

Loomis, in many of the great issues concerning nations, especially where there is war, people don't find out some of the things that happened during those wars until the war is over. And sometimes many years afterwards. And that situation is not just for wars, but for things that happen in countries, big events, such as Katrina. The stuff just kind of trickles in, we don't get it all in one big swallow. Perhaps our media will make me out a liar.

Posted by: Cassandra S | June 14, 2006 7:07 AM | Report abuse

If I went to all the optional and mandatory training the state tries to get us to do, I would never have to work at all. Optional training on retirement planning, stress relief, proper diet, yada, yada yada. Mandatory training in CPR, fire extinguisger use (it's so tough, we need a refresher course every year, to remind us to actually point AT the fire), and my favorite, terrorism training. I work at a MUSEUM! In MARTINSVILLE! I guess we could be attacked by a mob of crazed, militant creationists. At least we have a good security director, who took care of the training quickly and painlessly.

Posted by: Dooley | June 14, 2006 7:18 AM | Report abuse

'Morning all! Cassandra and I are indoors, thanks to Alberto. In this part of the world, we have been in moderate drought till this week. .8" rain Sunday, .8" Monday, and over an inch in the gauge when we left this morning in steady rain. So, no complaints here.

I'm sure Scotty will appreciate our behaving ourselves today so he doesn't have to report us to 'Mudge.

Erik makes me miss The Lonemule. *sigh*

Cassandra, you're right. Remember how the news developed on 9/11/01? We just get bits and pieces, and it's up to this historians to figure out what happened and why.

Posted by: slyness | June 14, 2006 7:32 AM | Report abuse

'Mudge, you think I need any MORE ideas for keeping this lot in line???

Although cattle prods do have a certain cachet for a select few. *pondering*

----------------

Now then;

Rule #1 -- There will be NO staying on topic today!

Rule #2 -- The chill-pill dispenser WILL be used, and been helpfully installed next to the water cooler for ease of application.

Rule #...

TBG, get away from me with that duct tape!

EF, don't you DARE help her! How COULD you after I gave you that killer slogan last night?

RDP, help me out here, willya??

Cassandra, STOP LAUGHING AT MEEEEEeeeeeeeeeeeeee....

Mmmph!!!! Rrrrgh!!!

:-)

Posted by: Scottynuke | June 14, 2006 7:56 AM | Report abuse

Hey, good morning all, especially Slyness and Cassandra.

I had an opportunity to get acquainted with Alberto yesterday on my way home from work--I made it as far as the first red light and then it started raining. I put my stuff in the plastic bag that I always carry in the bike basket, and put on the jacket that, likewise. I still had 6+ miles to go, and I was pretty darn wet when I got home. Too bad my husband is out of town because he likes to say "You look better wet"--bless his little delusional heart, what I would describe as my "drowned rat" look reminds him of Bo Derek, or Scarlett Johannson in the movie we just saw, "Match Point." (note to male readers: not much of a movie, but nice scenery, if you get my drift.)

Posted by: kbertocci | June 14, 2006 8:05 AM | Report abuse

Scotty, what's the topic that we're not supposed to stay on?

Posted by: kbertocci | June 14, 2006 8:07 AM | Report abuse

MmmMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMPH!!!

Posted by: Scottynuke | June 14, 2006 8:12 AM | Report abuse

Ann Coulter is on Leno tonight, if anyone is in the mood for some "meaningless dribble..." (apologies Bob/FF)

The teeth, or gums where teeth were, are healing nicely, and much ice cream has been consumed. Although I have to rinse with warm salt water after a meal. Tastes like ocean.

Scottynuke: is that off topic enough? or should i try again?

Posted by: tangent | June 14, 2006 8:26 AM | Report abuse

Mmph.

*wiggling fingers in some sort of an "OK" fashion*

Posted by: Scottynuke | June 14, 2006 8:35 AM | Report abuse

Good Morning! Happy belated birthday to you, Cassandra. The weather service and our local weather forecasters seem to have miscalculated Alberto's path. We have had at least two inches of rain here in Chester County. Our Great Dane's food/mixing bowls are full of water. The forecast miscalculation reminds me of Hugo..."...Expect gusty winds after eleven..." Gusty winds indeed. Victory is mine!!! I managed to relacate and plumb the sink yesterday with nary a leak, and only a small laceration on my index finger. Marv Albert would say "Yesss!" (the crowd goes wild)

Posted by: jack | June 14, 2006 8:40 AM | Report abuse

A better handle would be Meaningless Dribbler, me thinks. What you spew forth then be meaningless dribble.

Saw that movie Match Point and can't say much for it except that I love Scarlett and would see even knowing what I know just to see her.

TBG I'm the same concerning forgetting what I wanted to post by the time I catch up, and occasionally skip ahead to post anyway then go back to catching up only to find that someone else already made a similar post (like bc's answer to the 64 cup game question).

There's something else I wanted to say, but of course I forget. Except that several of you have given me hearty laughs and it's not even 9am yet.

Posted by: omni | June 14, 2006 8:43 AM | Report abuse

http://www.workmall.com/flags/united_states_flag_files/betsy_ross.gif

O say, can you see by the dawn's early light,
What so proudly we hailed at the twilight's last gleaming? -
Whose broad stripes and bright stars through the perilous fight,
O'er the ramparts we watched were so gallantly streaming!
And the rocket's red glare, the bomb's bursting in air,
Gave proof through the night that our flag was still there;
O say, does that star spangled banner yet wave
O'er the land of the free and the home of the brave!
On that shore dimly seen through the mists of the deep,
Where the foe's haughty host in dread silence reposes,
What is that which the breeze, o'er the towering steep,
As it fitfully blows, now conceals, now discloses?
Now it catches the beam, of the morning's first beam,
In full glory reflected, now shines on the stream;
'Tis the star-spangled banner! O, long may it wave
O'er the land of the free and the home of the brave!

And where is that band who so vauntingly swore
That the havoc of war and the battle's confusion
A home and a country should leave us no more?
Their blood has washed out their foul footsteps' pollution.
No refuge could save the hireling and slave
From the terror of flight or the gloom of the grave;
And the star-spangled banner in triumph doth wave
O'er the land of the free and the home of the brave!

O, thus be it ever where freemen shall stand
Between their loved homes and the war's desolation!
Blest with victory and peace, may the heaven rescued land
Praise the power that hath made and preserved us a nation.
Then conquer we must, when our cause it is just,
And this be our motto, "In god is our trust";
And the star-spangled banner in triumph shall wave
O'er the land of the free and the home of the brave!

http://www.ncaonline.org/monographs/monograph_images/flag.gif

Posted by: omni | June 14, 2006 8:46 AM | Report abuse

So vaguely on-topic that it is actually off-topic:

I could use some Vietnamese iced coffe right about now. The only thing that kept me from having some while in Vietnam was one morning on my "let the family sleep" stroll, I saw a coffee shop worker chipping a giant block of ice into smaller pieces on a dirty sidewalk using rusty chisels. I decided to stick to the fresh mango juice at the hotel.

At a Vietnamese bakery in Falls Church (and not in Eden Plaza), I found a 4 oz can of chilled Vietnamese coffee. I had it one morning and it was well past lunch before the buzz subsided.

When we were in West Palm Beach, my wife developed a taste for Cuban coffee which makes FourBucks Espresso taste like watered down Sanka.

Posted by: yellojkt | June 14, 2006 8:49 AM | Report abuse

Funny...just as I posted the rain ceased. Methinks that Alberto has left the building.

Posted by: jack | June 14, 2006 8:55 AM | Report abuse

new kit

Posted by: omni | June 14, 2006 8:56 AM | Report abuse

Geez, after only one day as shop steward, and I feel awful. I think I'm ready for a job in in EF's cabinet.

Speaking of shops, one of my cars has taken to a bit of wander in the steering. Well, wander is being kind, it's like the car's gone walkabout (have a good trip home A-fan!). I suppose after 150,000 mi, it deserves to be a little eccentric.

Anyway, I picked up a set of new tie rod ends yesterday afternoon, and put them on last night (after a day of being shop steward and drinking like Perry White and J Jonah Jameson rolled into one, the best thing to do is to drive home and play with power tools, right?). A short time and a Papa John's delivery later, the car was steering better than I remembered, and I had enough time left in the evening to take my friend's Viper out for a short drive. Nice way to blow steam off of a busy day.

Anyway, Error, Montreal is my favorite place to see F1 on this continent. The city's great (if you don't speak French, try Espanol; the folks there will treat you much better than if you speak 'murrican), the public transportation to the track is pretty good, and the track itself is OK. I recommend getting a seat as far into the hairpin as you can and as high as possible (the seats, I mean).

bc

Posted by: bc | June 14, 2006 8:56 AM | Report abuse

Hmm-m-m-m. No new kit yet. Joel must have wandered over to the SciFi Channel shill show on Capitol Hill yesterday. Ten ways to anticipate our total annihilation. Great. Since I gotta work tonight, I'll probably not get to see the actual show. I wonder--has anyone reviewed Azimoff's Three Laws of Robotics recently?

Posted by: ebtnut | June 14, 2006 8:56 AM | Report abuse

New Kit's up. I got the honor of first comment, only to diss the Boss for a typo. Sheh.

Posted by: Shrieking Denizen | June 14, 2006 9:02 AM | Report abuse

Help me, please. Did someone on this blog post a link to a MPython bit from years ago about England soccer goalies writing poems about the Yangtze River? If so, could you post it again? I need it for a show I'm doing on public radio out here in MT. Thanks.
And hey, y'all sound like you could use some fresh air.

Posted by: Pygymy Pony | August 13, 2006 12:07 PM | Report abuse

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