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The Republicans: Who Are Those Guys?

I watched the debate with my large Republican friend who lives in that swank place in Georgetown. This proved a fortuitous decision on my part, as the Republican was able to identify, in most instances, the person on the screen claiming to be a candidate for the presidency of the United States. The conversation mostly went like this:

"Who's he?"


"Huh. OK. Now who's that one?"

"I think that's Duncan Hunter."

My friend hurled invective at Ron Paul whenever he came on the screen. "He's our Kucinich," he said.

Wait: Tom Tancredo's not the Republican Kucinich? Maybe Tancredo is the Republican Gravel. We need to nail this down.

Let's face it: Not only are most of these guys completely obscure, they also look exactly the same. They're aging Caucasian men with jowls. Several of them are fighting for a starting position on the All-Jowl Team.

Except, of course, Mitt Romney, with his perfect, comic-book jawline. He looks almost aerodynamic, like something manufactured by Boeing.

Having one guy without jowls is what the Republican party leadership calls "diversity."

The large Republican and I thought McCain did poorly. He seemed uncomfortable. He made the tactical decision to stare directly into the camera, to connect with the viewers, but he came off a bit hot, a bit intense, like he might crawl out of the screen and throttle someone. Starting with Osama:

'On the subject of Osama bin Laden, he's responsible for the deaths of thousands of innocent Americans. He's now orchestrating other attacks on the United States of America. We will do whatever is necessary. We will track him down. We will capture him. We will bring him to justice, and I will follow him to the gates of hell.'

He must have known that last bit sounded a bit over the top, because he quickly forced a smile.

Romney did well -- seemed at ease. Superficially Reaganesque. And Giuliani had a solid night, I thought, by sounding those independent notes and not being beholden to the base on abortion. But who knows: His apostasy drew a big headline in the Washington Times and might hurt him with the people who actually decide the nomination.

Brownback did fine. The rest were either non-factors or simply beneath contempt. That, at least, that was our consensus in Georgetown. (Can you have a consensus when there are only two people? Or is that just an agreement? Doesn't "consensus" require at least three votes?)

And you have to admit Giuliani did pretty good on the Sunni-Shia pop quiz. He had to be sweating bullets:

MODERATOR: Mayor Giuliani, this question comes from Eric Taylor from California. He wants to know, what is the difference between a Sunni and a Shia Muslim?

GIULIANI: The difference is the descendant of Mohammed. The Sunnis believe that Mohammed -- the caliphate should be selected, and the Shiites believe that it should be by descent. And then of course there was a slaughter of Shiites in the early part of the history of Islam, and it has infected a lot of the history of Islam, which is really very unfortunate.

OK, not exactly ready to be published in the Britannica. But you could have done better???


Katharine Seelye in the Times: "Mr. Romney may have gotten some viewers to take a second look."

John Dickerson in Slate: 'I e-mailed a Republican veteran of the last two presidential campaigns whose response to the debate was: "Fred Thompson won." '

"Scarecrow" at Firedoglake: "These people do not live on the same planet as the rest of us. When they wake up and look out the window, they do not see what we see. They do not see a nation angry at them about the war nor shamed by a government that sanctions torture. With their Reaganesqe optimism, they do not see families struggling with health care costs, job security, retirement security, and college tuition..."

Dean Barnett on McCain: '[H]is performance was strange. All the finger pointing and yelling and the odd sort of anger - he looked abnormal. It's like his advisors told him to steal the "Tough SOB" role from Rudy, and he tried to get this done by being combative every time he spoke. But it was an artifice, and an obvious one.'

Rick Klein on The Note: '[McCain] looked like an overeager prison guard by grinning ear-to-ear after saying he looked forward to following bin Laden "to the gates of hell." '

By Joel Achenbach  |  May 4, 2007; 10:48 AM ET
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Posted by: Dooley | May 4, 2007 11:15 AM | Report abuse

I'm still waiting for the revelation that Romney was once a Democrat...


Posted by: Scottynuke | May 4, 2007 11:26 AM | Report abuse

Sorry to say, but I think McCain's time was in 2000. That is, before he was eviscerated in South Carolina by the Bushies.

Posted by: Raysmom | May 4, 2007 11:28 AM | Report abuse

On Romney:

Oh, baby, you're *so* talented... and they are *so* dumb.

*knitting two boodles together*

Posted by: Raysmom | May 4, 2007 11:30 AM | Report abuse

On Guiliani and abortion:

Are we awake?

We're not sure. Are we... Black?

Yes we are.

Then we're awake, but we're very confused.

Need some help?

Oh, all I can get...

*tightening the knotted Boodles*

Posted by: Scottynuke | May 4, 2007 11:34 AM | Report abuse

Joel, I missed watching it--how many of them were wearing Red Hats?

Posted by: Curmudgeon | May 4, 2007 11:36 AM | Report abuse

And more for Romney:

My mind is a raging torrent, flooded with rivulets of thought cascading into a waterfall of creative alternatives.

*more tightening and inviting accusations of frivolity*

Posted by: Raysmom | May 4, 2007 11:42 AM | Report abuse

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Posted by: Achenbach | May 4, 2007 11:42 AM | Report abuse

This is all well and good, but which of them looks like he can take up the title of Commander Guy?

Posted by: Ivansmom | May 4, 2007 11:44 AM | Report abuse

A consensus when there's only two people present is determined by whose beer fridge is in closest proximity.

Posted by: SonofCarl | May 4, 2007 11:44 AM | Report abuse

And who would look best in a flight suit?

Posted by: Raysmom | May 4, 2007 11:45 AM | Report abuse

And the jowls haven't gone unnoticed...

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Posted by: Scottynuke | May 4, 2007 11:48 AM | Report abuse

Sincerely, Joel, I don't mean to make light of the seriousness of picking a new president, but last I checked, the election is a year and a half away. I half expect that the day after the next inauguration, someone is going to throw their hat into the ring for 2012.

Posted by: Raysmom | May 4, 2007 11:48 AM | Report abuse

Did Ron Paul try to sell anyone a Pocket Fisherman or a Ginzu knife?

Posted by: yellojkt | May 4, 2007 11:49 AM | Report abuse

And more for Guiliani:

Pardon me, gentlemen, but the, uh, affairs of state must, um, take precedence over Affairs of State...

Posted by: Scottynuke | May 4, 2007 11:51 AM | Report abuse

I still believe that Rue Paul would make a better candidate. Now, that would be real diversity.

Does the Commander Guy gets to keep his Pope of the American Evangelical Christians title after January 09?

Posted by: Shrieking Denizen | May 4, 2007 11:54 AM | Report abuse

Mitt Romney is really Nathan Petrelli from 'Heroes'. Or possibly Syler using his morphing powers.

Posted by: yellojkt | May 4, 2007 11:55 AM | Report abuse

Why Mommy is a democrat?

Teacher's union propaganda.

Posted by: yellojkt | May 4, 2007 11:57 AM | Report abuse

And one for Fred Thompson:

You will be risking your lives, whilst I will be risking an almost-certain Academy Award nomination for the Best Supporting Actor.

Posted by: Raysmom | May 4, 2007 11:58 AM | Report abuse

I'm trying to come up with one for Brownback and the only image I get is the beans scene...

*evil grin*

Posted by: Scottynuke | May 4, 2007 12:05 PM | Report abuse

"They're aging Caucasian men with jowls. Several of them are fighting for a starting position on the All-Jowl Team.

Except, of course, Mitt Romney, with his perfect, comic-book jawline. He looks almost aerodynamic, like something manufactured by Boeing."

I really like this.

And it is a Dick Tracy jawline.

Posted by: nellie | May 4, 2007 12:08 PM | Report abuse

The transcript of the debate, which I have not yet read:

Posted by: kbertocci | May 4, 2007 12:09 PM | Report abuse

thanks for the enlightenment in the previous boodle, now it's all clear...

And now I have to work. On a Friday no less...sheesh...hope to be back soon.

Posted by: omni | May 4, 2007 12:11 PM | Report abuse

Thompson -- as bad as his hair dye
Tancredo -- an immigrant who hates immigrants?
Hunter -- scary
Paul -- crazy
Gilmore -- nobody's buying
Huckabee -- way too white bread
Brownback -- priest, not president
McCain -- stiff and stuttering
Romney -- very polished, completely phony
Rudy -- he's back... 911 was his defibrulator

Posted by: DB | May 4, 2007 12:17 PM | Report abuse

"Work, work, work, work, work, work, work, work, work.....Hey boys, howya' doin'?.....

Posted by: jack | May 4, 2007 12:18 PM | Report abuse

Boko999 writes: (Note: the U.S. Census did not separate Hispanics from Caucasians until 1970.)

omni writes:
I believe it was the 1980 census that first included Hispanic. Hispanic is not a "race", but an ethnicity.

Don't know which of the either of you is correct, but this I do know:

The Supreme Court accepted the concept of distinction by class, that is, between "white" and Hispanic, and found that when laws produce unreasonable and different treatment on such a basis, the constitutional guarantee of equal protection is violated. The court held that Hernández had "the right to be indicted and tried by juries from which all members of his class are not systematically excluded." This decision was a major triumph for the "other white" concept, the legal strategy of Mexican-American civil-rights activists from 1930 to 1970. Faced with the separate but equal doctrine they argued that segregation of Mexican-origin persons was illegal in the absence of state law. Hernández was the logical extension of that argument.

The case was a valuable precedent until it was replaced in 1971 by Cisneros v. Corpus Christi ISD,qv which recognized Hispanics as an identifiable minority group and utilized the Brown decision of 1954 to prohibit segregation.

I tend to favor omni's date, given the above.

Posted by: Loomis | May 4, 2007 12:19 PM | Report abuse

The President's favourite man ho has found his proper place. Helping with the National Day of Prayer.

Posted by: Boko999 | May 4, 2007 12:20 PM | Report abuse

The first candidate, Democratic or Republican, that announces a platform of abolishing the dollar bill will win my complete and fervent support. I will man phonebanks, wave signs, stop traffic, whatever it takes to get that person elected.

I am so tired of having soda machines reject my dollar bill that I have become a one issue voter.

Posted by: yellojkt | May 4, 2007 12:23 PM | Report abuse

Bin Laden? I wonder whether he died and was replaced by a full-sized replica, a bit like the surviving defenders of Malta who put dead guys on the ramparts to fool the attacking Ottoman forces.

Supposedly all the Jeb Bush people are working for Romney, so there should be a sense of inevitability for him by now.

Posted by: Dave of the Coonties | May 4, 2007 12:25 PM | Report abuse

Far be it from me to comment on things presidential, but I would like to point out that you are all forgetting to consider voice. Your president whould SOUND presidential.

Fred Thompson may actually be on my list of great presidential sounding voices. If he is not surely it was oversight. His voice is almost James Earl Jonesish in timbre. Of course he cannot hold a candle to the best voice, David McCullough.

Posted by: dr | May 4, 2007 12:36 PM | Report abuse

Perhaps the boodlers can help me decide an important issue. Tuesday is the BPH, right? Tuesday is also when a community meeting will be held to get input on a proposal that is So Blatantly Stupid I don't think I can remain quiet. I'm not sure that an email expressing my opinions would carry the same weight as physical presence. What to do? What to do?

Posted by: Raysmom | May 4, 2007 12:36 PM | Report abuse

Loomis | That note was copied from your post so its your date. Nice try:-)

I'm just not sure the its a good idea for the courts to recognize a seperate race to combat bigotry against an identifiable minority.
omni's comment on ethnicity is reasonable only in the real world outside of politics and the law.

The "other white" sounds like a pork commercial.

Posted by: Boko999 | May 4, 2007 12:37 PM | Report abuse


Make a cassette tape of your opinion, mail it in, and come enjoy the BPH.


Posted by: Scottynuke | May 4, 2007 12:39 PM | Report abuse

McCain: "We will do whatever is necessary. We will track him [Osama]down. We will capture him. We will bring him to justice..."

Did McCain happen to mention when we would get around to actually starting this effort? Because this particular objective seems to have had about the same importance as Number 29 on my wife's Honey-do list, i.e., I'll get around to it right after I paint the garage door.

Posted by: Curmudgeon | May 4, 2007 12:39 PM | Report abuse

Joel writes:
They're aging Caucasian men with jowls. Several of them are fighting for a starting position on the All-Jowl Team.

I am reminded of this paragraph from Chris Hitchen's XV (15th) essay in his slender book, "letters to a young contrarian."

For years, when I went to renew my annual pass at the United States Senate, I was made to fill in two forms. The first asked me for my biographical details and the second stipulated tht I had signed the other under penalty of perjury. I was grateful for the latter, because when asked to state my "race" I always put "human" in the required box. This led to a yearly row. "Put white," I was once told--by an African-American clerk, I might add. I explained that white was not even a color, let alone a race. I also drew his attention to the perjury provision that obligated me to state only the truth. "Put 'Causcasian,'" I was told on another occasion. I said I had no connection with the Caucasus and no belief in the outmoded ethnology that had produced the category. So it went on until one year there was no race space on the form. I'd like to claim credit for this, though I probably can't. I offer you the story, also, as part of my recommendation that one acts b1oody-minded as often as the odds are favorable and even sometimes when they are not: it's good exercise.

More food for thought this morning on the subjects of race and ethnic labeling.

Posted by: Loomis | May 4, 2007 12:45 PM | Report abuse

WHy go after Osama when we have so many "Number 2 Guys In Al Qaeda" on ice to trot out whenever we need a little boost in the polls?

Posted by: yellojkt | May 4, 2007 12:47 PM | Report abuse

Boko999, to be absolutely correct to the nit, that parenthesized material with the 1970 date comes from Chris Lloyd, who added the information to his interview transcript with Ken Burns. ;-)

Now that you mention it, I'm sorry I attributed to you. I have much on my mind this morning, such as fooling my husband that I've done more work inside the house and in the yard than I've actually accomplished. :-)

Posted by: Loomis | May 4, 2007 12:49 PM | Report abuse

Caucasian is a mighty silly word. My wife drew gasps once when she described herself as oriental. Nobody had told her the word was politically correct. I like that people from the Indian subcontinent are often classified as Arayan. I worked with a Muslim Syrian that kept pointing to his nose and insisting he was as Semitic as any Israeli.

Silly words from a discredited classification system.

Posted by: yellojkt | May 4, 2007 12:52 PM | Report abuse

Boko, what were they (who recognized prejudice and discrimination and unequal treatment and those in power who recognized the same) to do back in the late 40s and early 50s (except pass laws or make court rulings)? Your thoughts please?

Posted by: Loomis | May 4, 2007 12:52 PM | Report abuse

Sounding presidential? Eugene Robinson wonders about that today. His wondering about Bushisms reminds me of the period before the last presidential election when I was starting to wonder whether Bush was becoming unable to express himself, and would have to decline the nomination for a second term. James Fallows speculated about that.

My guess is that articulate candididates somehow come across as tricky (as in Nixon), so aren't electable. Inarticulate fuzzymindedness is taken as sincerity.

Posted by: Dave of the coonties | May 4, 2007 12:59 PM | Report abuse

I'm back...I wrote my program and itis doing all the work. Unfortunately I have nothing to add to the boodle at the moment. I guess I'll skip on over to the celebtritoloy transc.

Posted by: omni | May 4, 2007 1:03 PM | Report abuse

BTW, let's not get too hung up on this jowls thing. I, too, have jowls, though unlike the jowls on the aforementioned stiffs, mine are kinda perky. Can't there be, like, good jowls and bad jowls? Santa Claus has jowls. Shar Pei puppies have jowls. Please have some respect for those of us who are maxilliarily challenged.

We're on the home page, by the way. Straighten your cubbies for the nice people. Scotty, prepare to staff the concession stand; I think we need to get out the brie and the "I Like Ike" souvenir T-shirts.

Posted by: Curmudgeon | May 4, 2007 1:05 PM | Report abuse

I think the only debate we should worry about is who is going to win the Kentucky Derby tomorrow!!

My picks are
No Biz Like Show Biz - to win
Scat Daddy - to place
Stormello - to show

Posted by: greenwithenvy | May 4, 2007 1:11 PM | Report abuse

Dave, Its not really about sounding presidential, its about SOUNDING presidential. I have a thing for gents with voices that seem to reverberate as they pass thoguh my ears. Like Morgan Freeman, James Earl Jones, David McCullough,Fred Thompson. There are more, but these voices make you listen.

Its more like how I picked my car. (BC, I do hope you avert your eyes) Its yellow. Yeah that is pretty much how it goes.

I figure if there had been more thought given to the sound of the voice in 2000, well they should have looked for a voice of a richer colour.

Posted by: dr | May 4, 2007 1:12 PM | Report abuse

Being a white pasty guy is a mandatory requirement to be a republican candidate apparently.
I'm not following the US political scene too closely. Have they ever had non-male/non-white/non-Christian candidate in that party? What's-her-name on the Mondale ticket was a democrat I think, no?

Now for a little pom foolishness about bestiality.

(note: You've got to read the offended Christian comments and the reply by Anthony: "I praise God every day for His shining light that guides me away from the dangerous temptation of the farm yard. " hehehe)

Posted by: Shrieking Denizen | May 4, 2007 1:18 PM | Report abuse

The Republicans seem to be working very hard to distance themselves from Bush. This is in stark contrast to the Democrats, who are clearly trying to equate support for the Republican Party with support for Bush and His War. I think the party that wins this battle of perceptions will be the party that wins in 2008.

Remember, America is still evenly split between left and right. The 2006 elections were as much about anger as they were about political ideology. If the Republicans succeed in convincing people that a Republican vote does not imply an endorsement of George W. Bush, then the Democrats may be in big trouble.

Posted by: RD Padouk | May 4, 2007 1:23 PM | Report abuse

Dave, your comment, My guess is that articulate candididates somehow come across as tricky (as in Nixon), so aren't electable. Inarticulate fuzzymindedness is taken as sincerity.

This makes me sad to think that as a society we are distrustful of well spoken people (I would say the same applies here north of the border).

I mean really does it make people feel better when someone refers to himself as the "Commander Guy", makes me think of a cartoon character not a world leader. Am I so out of touch?

Raysmom, would an international BPH help sway things?

Posted by: dmd | May 4, 2007 1:23 PM | Report abuse

omni - I used to be very good at getting computer batch jobs to do my work for me. The true mother of invention is laziness.

Posted by: RD Padouk | May 4, 2007 1:25 PM | Report abuse

Shrieking Denizen - I think we pasty white guys have pretty much had a lock on the White House regardless of party.

Posted by: RD Padouk | May 4, 2007 1:27 PM | Report abuse

Loomis | I suppose the episode exposes the law as a very blunt instrument constructed to deal with a complex and nasty species.
That's all I got.

Now I'm off to party with a bunch 'o miners.

Posted by: Boko999 | May 4, 2007 1:32 PM | Report abuse

Boko999 - Just as long as they are not underage miners, 'cause then they would be..

Oh, skip it.

Posted by: RD Padouk | May 4, 2007 1:47 PM | Report abuse

I used to know all the trivia about those Darby hosses, but nowadays I just pick on the basis of the name and then look at whoever looks in great shape on Darby day.

I notice they never let horses with really crappy names win the Darby, so names are important.

I do roughly as well-- i.e. I tend to pick 1-2 out of the top 5, not necessarily in the right order, and one of my choices always ends nearly dead last because of injuries, bumping, dying, or just sucking.

As for good names I hereby pick:
Dominican, Street Sense, and Hard spun in that order.

I like Stormello, he's probably a relative of Storm Cat, past winner of the Kentucky Derby and Preakness... but again, this sounds too much like "Bordello", and that family tends to be sprint-heavy stock.

So, you just know he has no prayer.

I will also predict Cowtown cat will be smoking hot early on, and then fade out late, but have a good finish.

I also predict that Cowtown Cat, if he runs in the Preakness, will win it. His relative "Bluegrass Cat" came in second to Barbaro last year.

Also, Bwana Bull will do a nice showing in the Preakness. Everybody knows Pimlico is a cow track, anyway.

For the Belmont, Zanjero and Curlin. Just because horses with Zs in their name or with quirky consonant combos tend to win the Belmont out of nowhere-- see Danzig Connection; Bet Twice, Jazil...

Of course, I'm totally talking through my hat in this one ;).

As for jockeys-- I always look for a horse ridden by our local boy Kent Desmoureaux to do better than expected, so that's reason to hope for Stormello (other than the great name).

Any horse Prado or Mike Smith rides has to be taken very seriously, so that means Scat Daddy and Tiago have to be looked at.

As for looks, I'll look at who looks the most buff and well-balanced and alert yet not frantic or on edge tomorrow. Any horse that burns up a lot of energy by balking at the gate or prancing a lot is going to LOSE before he gets into the gate.

War Admiral is a very rare exception, historically, to the "balk, and the horse walks rather than runs" rule.

That was because he balked for 1/2 hour and let the other horses cool down too much to run. Nowadays horses are loaded within 3-5 minutes no matter what.

And that'll probably be the horse who wins it.

Posted by: Wilbrod | May 4, 2007 1:55 PM | Report abuse

Bill Clinton was one of the more articulate holders of the office and he managed it even with a southern twang. Not to say that he can be trusted, but he was elected twice. Not that that is due to his articularity, as so was the current office-holder elected twice.

Sorry, was that confusing? Maybe I should run...

Posted by: Gomer | May 4, 2007 1:56 PM | Report abuse

A bunch of deadenders, that is who they are.

Posted by: Will in Seattle | May 4, 2007 1:56 PM | Report abuse

Git yer red hots! Git yer red hots rite heah!!

Oh, sorry, wrong concession stand...


Posted by: Scottynuke | May 4, 2007 2:01 PM | Report abuse

Wilbrod's post makes a nice case for how most Americans choose who they will vote for in an election. Cool name first, looks second, who's riding on their back slapping them third. Doesn't matter what's in the horse's head or what comes out of his/her mouth.

Me likee.

Posted by: Gomer | May 4, 2007 2:01 PM | Report abuse

Joel, I would appreciate it if you could be at Goddard Space Flight Center on Tuesday morning to "view" the Queen, as I will be avoiding the place like a plague of clichés. Somebody has to take the hit for the team, and I can't imagine a better candidate than someone who isn't me. Like, say, you.

Posted by: ScienceTim | May 4, 2007 2:05 PM | Report abuse

Wilbrod, I can think of one Boodler who'll definitely have a sentimental favorite in the Darby... :-)

Posted by: Scottynuke | May 4, 2007 2:05 PM | Report abuse

If Cowtown Cat wins, then that would be the first major horse race, or professional sporting event of any sort, won by a member of the Boodle. I'm all atwitter with antici...PAtion.

Posted by: ScienceTim | May 4, 2007 2:10 PM | Report abuse

did a check on my program and found a bug. fixed it came back here and saw this: celebtritoloy

I'm gonna blame that one on repetitive stress.

Headed back to no pants land. There, that was much easier to type without mistakes.

Posted by: omni | May 4, 2007 2:14 PM | Report abuse

So, going by name only, whose sounds the most presidential from the All-Jowl Team and its adjunct?

Fred Thompson, Tom Tancredo, Duncan Hunter (who is he, anyway?), Ron Paul, [?]Gilmore (I don't know his name!), Mike Huckabee, Sam Brownback, John McCain, Mitt Romney, Rudy Giuliani

I say Ron Paul is immediately disqualified because he has two first names. Mitt Romney is low in the pool because - well, because he goes by "Mitt". Even the Dick Tracy jaw can't overcome that. Tom Tancredo sounds like a superhero, or an action figure, or both. Of course, maybe we need an action figure president. Sam Brownback's name always collapses in my mind into an unfortunate combination of "brownshirt" and "greenback".

Posted by: Ivansmom | May 4, 2007 2:16 PM | Report abuse

Loomis, with all your geneological ties, you must be closely related to QE2 somewhere. Are you in line for the thrown? (Or are they still holding a grudge over Hotspur's descendents because of that whole unfortunate Shrewsbury rebellion/Owen Glendower thing?)

Posted by: Curmudgeon | May 4, 2007 2:20 PM | Report abuse

Um, Commander Guy sounds kinda actiony figuriney to me, so my thinking is no, we don't need an action figure president.

Posted by: omni | May 4, 2007 2:21 PM | Report abuse

are you suggesting Loomis stands in line waiting to throw a midget?

Posted by: Shrieking Denizen | May 4, 2007 2:24 PM | Report abuse

On the no pants chat someone had asked about King James I ancestry and that he isn't a Tudor, but according to Wiki his Paternal Great-grandmother is Margaret Tudor and his Maternal Great-grandmother is Margaret Tudor. I know there is a lot of incest that goes on in the royal families, but this isn't the same woman is it???

Posted by: omni | May 4, 2007 2:25 PM | Report abuse

A conflation in my mind, Shriek, and a bit of an obscure reference to Hotspur (Henry Percey), who helped overthrow on King (Dick 2) and tried to overthrow another (Hank 4). So it's throne and thrown.

I dunno, I kinda liked "in line for the thrown." OK, maybe it was just me.

Posted by: Curmudgeon | May 4, 2007 2:27 PM | Report abuse

Ummm, I think they're called little people these days, and most of them don't like to be thrown.

Posted by: Gomer | May 4, 2007 2:28 PM | Report abuse

I wouldn't mind taking part in a "World's Strongest Man" competition in which they throw full-size people. I can imagine the announcers discussing the arc made by my limp body as Magnus ver Magnussen tosses me.

Posted by: Gomer | May 4, 2007 2:31 PM | Report abuse

The traditional Republican Part is dead-slain by those who wear the cloak of conservatism, but who are really Fascist's.

Posted by: | May 4, 2007 2:40 PM | Report abuse

Let the arguments begin...,,20036782_20037403_20037541,00.html


Posted by: Scottynuke | May 4, 2007 2:42 PM | Report abuse

Omni, according to Wiki, Margaret Tudor, sister of Henry VII, married King James of Scotland, then was widowed and remarried to Archibald Douglas, 6th Earl of Angus (himself a widower).

This outraged nobles enough that civil war broke out in Scotland. Worse, Angus cheated on her, and she filed for divorce and was finally charged with high treason and exiled to France, then escaped to London.

Makes the Simpson affair slightly more understandable...

Margaret Tudor later took a third husband, too. She had one child by all 3 husbands, although the last, Dorothea was considered to have died young.

I see she was Henry VIII's sister through and through...;).

Enjoy the reading. This lady would have been perfect for a Shakespearian play, if it weren't that writing about the Tudors would have gotten Shaky in trouble.

Posted by: Wilbrod | May 4, 2007 2:42 PM | Report abuse

The Simpson affair? I thought Homer and Marge were on stable ground.

Posted by: Gomer | May 4, 2007 2:48 PM | Report abuse

Wilbrod said: As for looks, I'll look at who looks the most buff and well-balanced and alert yet not frantic or on edge tomorrow.

Picking up on Gomer's excellent observation that your method is not unlike an American presidential election, that means that McCain is toast.

Posted by: Raysmom | May 4, 2007 2:48 PM | Report abuse

I can't believe that no one has mentioned yet that three of these guys claimed not to believe in evolution! It saddens me to think that it's still possible to get elected president with such a dim grasp of reality.

Posted by: bb | May 4, 2007 2:54 PM | Report abuse

Raysmom is going to watch "World's Strongest Man" tomorrow??? What???

*particularly confused*


Posted by: Scottynuke | May 4, 2007 2:55 PM | Report abuse

God, Scott bakula in drag. Good memories. Loved Galaxy Quest too. Most of those series, it appears I haven't watched.

Sci-Fi geekitude factor: How many of those series you've actually seen....
(books don't count instead of movies, but bonus points for series + book combos).

If you score a perfect score, aliens want you for experiments.

Posted by: Wilbrod | May 4, 2007 2:55 PM | Report abuse

Raysmom, McCain is already toast.

His "sincere look" into the camera reminds me of a cross between Francis Urquhart and a bulldog who's trying to pry food out of you by mind control.

Re Urquhart reference: see PBS miniseries "House of Cards"; "To Play the King" and "The Final Cut".

But most particularly pick the first one. It's the best, very Richard IIIesque.

Posted by: Wilbrod | May 4, 2007 2:58 PM | Report abuse

I refuse to watch "Starship Troopers."


Posted by: Scottynuke | May 4, 2007 2:58 PM | Report abuse

Scotty, ???? (your 2:55)

Posted by: Raysmom | May 4, 2007 3:04 PM | Report abuse

Haven't seen Starship Troopers, and won't. The Matrix was lousy. I've only seen a couple episodes of the new Battlestar Galactica.

There were some real dogs on that list, and I don't mean lovable loyal creatures.

Posted by: StorytellerTim | May 4, 2007 3:04 PM | Report abuse


The Matrix made number one? Come on.

Posted by: Wilbrod | May 4, 2007 3:04 PM | Report abuse

But, bb, to comment on the content of the All-Jowl (and Adjunct) Show we would have had to watch the thing. Show of hands? I thought not.

Okay, the few of you who did are responsible for substantive discussion. The rest of us, bowing to the SHEER ABSURDITY of having something called a presidential candidate debate in MAY 2007, will discuss ephemera, which is, in my opinion, what the made-for-television event was about. Oops, I'm ranting again. Sorry.

Posted by: Ivansmom | May 4, 2007 3:05 PM | Report abuse

Ivansmom is right, we should reserve the debates for when we have them winnowed down to two or maybe three, if we can get a Perot/Nader kooky type thrown in for good measure.

Posted by: Gomer | May 4, 2007 3:10 PM | Report abuse


Sometimes I really AM confused... *L*

Gomer had mentioned World's Strongest Man, and you said "most buff and well-balanced," yes of course about the Darby. What few grey cells I have saw a funny garbling there. As usual, my grey cells need glasses.


Posted by: Scottynuke | May 4, 2007 3:10 PM | Report abuse

And "KHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAN" is NOT the best part of that movie.

It's the "death" scene in the engine room, of course. I tear up every time.


Posted by: Scottynuke | May 4, 2007 3:13 PM | Report abuse

I despise Heinlein, yet I thought Starship Troopers was a brilliant satire - even if some believe it wasn't supposed to be.

I mean, it was so wonderfully over the top that it never occurred to me to seriously consider it as any kind of "fascist endorsement."

I thoroughly enjoyed the film, although the shower scene did stretch my sense of credulity.

Posted by: RD Padouk | May 4, 2007 3:14 PM | Report abuse

Yeah, S'nuke: ..."I have been and always will be your friend..." *sniff*

Posted by: jack | May 4, 2007 3:16 PM | Report abuse

Of course. Spock dies bravely... but it's harder to quote than KHAAAAAAAAAAANNNN!

I like "Rest, perturbed spirit" quote at the end too-- that's from Hamlet, so not original to the script.

I like 'Kirk' every time Khan thinks he's killed the Enterprise off but hasn't. For a "superior intellect". he sure has an endless capacity to be surprised.

Posted by: Wilbrod | May 4, 2007 3:16 PM | Report abuse

Scottynuke, clearly you are forgetting "They put creatures in our bodies."

Yep. They just don't write stuff like that any more.

Posted by: RD Padouk | May 4, 2007 3:16 PM | Report abuse

Reading this Boodle is a hoot. I don't understand a single post!

Posted by: Yoki | May 4, 2007 3:18 PM | Report abuse

And, oddly enough, I worry about the Wrath of Khan pretty much every day.

Posted by: RD Padouk | May 4, 2007 3:18 PM | Report abuse

RD, maybe the anti-gravity machine wasn't working properly.

Posted by: SonofCarl | May 4, 2007 3:19 PM | Report abuse

Yoki, I am wandering in the fog with you!

Posted by: dmd | May 4, 2007 3:20 PM | Report abuse

RD, actually that bug-in-the-ear scene does get harder to watch on every watching-- I tend to leave the room nowadays if I'm watching that movie.

But yeah, good creepy-crawly scene.

Posted by: Wilbrod | May 4, 2007 3:20 PM | Report abuse

Shatner is Canadian, you know.

Posted by: RD Padouk | May 4, 2007 3:21 PM | Report abuse

Thank goodness, dmd. Let's go for tea.

Posted by: Yoki | May 4, 2007 3:22 PM | Report abuse

'sokay Scotty. I thought I was having a blond moment there.

Posted by: Raysmom | May 4, 2007 3:25 PM | Report abuse

"Cowtown Cat?" Is my name being used in vain? It's not me, I can't even win the race to the bathroom in the morning. I'm so very sorry I missed the Republican Candidate Forum the other night. I must have had something important to do. I just think it would be a lot of fun if they had a Dem/Repub debate jointly moderated by Dennis Miller and Steven Corbert. At this point, there's nothing the candidates won't do for some exposure, so let's take advantage of it. Thoughts?

Posted by: CowTown | May 4, 2007 3:25 PM | Report abuse

I hope you two order Earl Grey. 'cause that was, like, Picard's favorite.

Posted by: RD Padouk | May 4, 2007 3:25 PM | Report abuse


It hurts to breath, but reading this kit, I am bent over bad. I cannot stop laughing. If these folks read your kit today, they will certainly try to find a good plastic surgeon, do whatever he or she wants, throw in their wives, sell their grandmothers, whatever. Jowls, my, my, oh, it does hurt to laugh. These are folks that are running for President of the United States, and in this kit you have reduced them to comic characters, and we are so joining in with you. Oh, it hurts to laugh, but I can't stop.

JA, you've outdone yourself with this one. If I was nearby, I would certainly give you a high five, in spite of the pain.

Slyness, good op-ed piece, especially coming from this guy. Folks sometime beat up on him because he comes across as real conservative, more red than red.

Posted by: Cassandra S | May 4, 2007 3:27 PM | Report abuse

Good to hear from you Cassandra! Hope you have a chance to relax and heal.

Posted by: RD Padouk | May 4, 2007 3:29 PM | Report abuse

Loose Earl Grey, in a porcelain tea pot, with milk not cream.

Posted by: Yoki | May 4, 2007 3:29 PM | Report abuse

Now I'm really worried about Cassandra. Take care of yourself, my friend, and do what the dr recommends.

Posted by: Yoki | May 4, 2007 3:30 PM | Report abuse

I can't say I disagree with a lot of the SciFi choices - especially in the top ten. It had all my picks - Aliens, Blade Runner, The Thing. I think The Matrix deserves at least to be top ten, notwithstanding Keanu of the wooden method acting school.

I thought the movie Starship Troopers was a poor compromise between the fascistic satirical fantasy and campy sci-fi possibilities.

Posted by: SonofCarl | May 4, 2007 3:30 PM | Report abuse

Hi, Cassandra! Laughter is good, pain is bad, and right now these guys are comic characters, if not action figures.

I've seen parts of perhaps 11 on that list of sci-fi shows or movies. Where is Babylon V (or "B-5" as we say)? That show was conceived and written as a whole from the first episode, most unusual for TV.

Posted by: Ivansmom | May 4, 2007 3:30 PM | Report abuse

CP, you there? Your cousin Colm T. has another fine effort in next week's New Yorker. I don't know whether the story, "One Minus One" appears in Mothers & Sons, or is being published for the first time.

Posted by: Yoki | May 4, 2007 3:32 PM | Report abuse

Excellent! I must admit I like Earl Grey myself. Alas, being a barbarian, I tend to make it using tea bags.

Also, and I kid you not, the guy in the cubicle next to me is making some even as I type.

Well, gotta tie up some loose ends and then I am outta here.

Have a great weekend everyone. My goal is to stay outside and off the computer.


Posted by: RD Padouk | May 4, 2007 3:32 PM | Report abuse

A personal favorite:
Where do you keep the nuclear wessels?

Posted by: Raysmom | May 4, 2007 3:34 PM | Report abuse

RD, so that means we'll see you tomorrow morning, as usual? :)

Posted by: Yoki | May 4, 2007 3:35 PM | Report abuse

RD, now you have me in a quandry I enjoy Earl Grey but lately have become hooked on Vanilla Tea or Chai Tea. Also it is beautiful here, something cold is in order.

Posted by: dmd | May 4, 2007 3:35 PM | Report abuse

Is it OK if I stick with the Earl Grey? Here, it is pelting rain, cold and dark (not that there is anything wrong with that) and a hot cup of tea is in order.

Posted by: Yoki | May 4, 2007 3:37 PM | Report abuse

I have to say that I am with RD on "Starship Troopers." I liked the flashy commercial/propaganda style of it. Except I enjoyed the shower scene. I'll take just about any chance I can to see some jumblies.

Posted by: Gomer | May 4, 2007 3:39 PM | Report abuse

Scotty thanks for the suggestion on my Tuesday dilemma. I decided to take the neighborhood-rabble-rousing route. That is, distribute a summary of the issues, complete with meeting details and important e-mail addresses. Many e-mails is (are? Mudge?) so much more effective than just mine.

Posted by: Raysmom | May 4, 2007 3:54 PM | Report abuse

Yoki -- joining you for tea, but with ice, as today is warm. I, too, am confused with the boodle-goodness today but am happy to see so many having fun.

I will check out the Colm Toibin piece. He was in New York about three weeks ago; I fielded an early call from arty-painter cousin who sports the Americanized Tobin. She was on her way to hear him read and wanted the backstory on him. She introduced herself and he said, "why are all the Tobin cousins in America so red-headed and beautiful?" She blushed and was very happy.

The funny part of the story, Yoki, is that several times he refers to our branch of the family in novels ( Blackstairs Mountains, near Mt. Leinster) as the "backward, country cousins." Apparently, we descend from the hillbillies while darling, silver-tongued Colm is from the Wexford Townies.

I now return you to your SF references fest.

Posted by: College Parkian | May 4, 2007 3:55 PM | Report abuse

I saw the face of Diana Rigg on the front page of the Times, and just couldn't resist the link. I thought of 'Mudge (why?) when this was the first paragraph.

"The leather catsuit I wore in The Avengers was a total nightmare; it took a good 45 minutes to get unzipped to go to the loo. It was like struggling in and out of a wet-suit. Once I got into the jersey catsuits they were very easy to wear but you had to watch for baggy knees; there is nothing worse. I got a lot of very odd fan mail while I was in that show, but my mum used to enjoy replying to it. Some of the men who wrote to me must have been a bit startled because she would offer really motherly advice. I would get a letter from a teenage boy, say, who was overexcited and my mother would write back saying: "My daughter is far too old for you and what you really need is a good run around the block." "

Posted by: Yoki | May 4, 2007 3:56 PM | Report abuse

Now is a time of great decision
Are we to stay or up and quit?
There's no avoiding this conclusion:
Our town is turning into s***.

Posted by: Raysmom | May 4, 2007 4:00 PM | Report abuse

Your choice was fortunate, not fortuitous. Fortuitous means by chance.

Posted by: MHughes976 | May 4, 2007 4:01 PM | Report abuse

By golly, Ivansmom is right: where's my B-5? Naming the psicop Alfred Bester was genius, pure genius. That show was fabulous, way-the-heck better than Wrath of Khan or V.

Quantum Leap? Cute, but poor science fiction. Clone Wars? Please. Heroes? You're kidding me. Total Recall as a seminal movie? Oy. Close Encounters waas better science fiction than most of these. The Last Starfighter, even. Night of the [epithet] Comet was better! And where was The Quiet Earth?

Hmmm. All those movies may be older than 25 years.

What about Max Headroom? A brilliant, brilliant show.

Even Stragte SG-1 (the first few seasons, at least) is better than much of this drivel.

Posted by: ScienceTim | May 4, 2007 4:08 PM | Report abuse

"Stragte?" Oh, dear.

That would be "Stargate."

Posted by: ScienceTim | May 4, 2007 4:11 PM | Report abuse

"Are," Raysmom.

Yoki, you thought of me because at the mere mention of the name Diana Rigg I am wont to swoon. Describing her spending 45 minutes wriggling out of that cat suit--now, that's just plain cruel and malicious. Do it again.

Posted by: Curmudgeon | May 4, 2007 4:13 PM | Report abuse

Having seen some if not all of every show/movie/series on their list oughta tell something about me. I don't know what,but something.

The Matrix, while a good movie, I don't feel was #1 material. All in all though the list they built is fairly accurate.

Personally I have to agree with Ivansmom about Babylon5. It was a superior show, well written and you could tell the story was being told as intended. I was far superior to V. I really did not like that show.

The only show on the list I don't particularily like is LOST. Just couldn't be bothered to follow it beyond the first season.

IMHO Blade Runner should have recieved top honours.

Posted by: Kerric | May 4, 2007 4:14 PM | Report abuse

Trying to keep my vow of occasional-kit-connectedness. Here goes:

I think that of the red hat gals, more might vote republican.

Wheezy said that McCain's time was about seven years ago.

Fred Thompson sounds like a Caucasian James Earl Jones. (I cannot believe I wrote the C-word!)

Mitt is a bad name for a Pres. Period. I keep thinking of Mo plus lacy sex kitten mitts.

Tommy Thompson, a double name, only works in the Upper Midwest where Scandihovian descendants sometimes bestow:
Eric Erickson
Ole Olson
John Johnson
Andy Anderson.

And now to my Yoki-Mudge reference: Diana Rigg wouldn't be caught dead in a red hat ala those gals.

Yoki, let us found our own secret women-of-the-best-age society. It shall be cross border, and hence, contain multitudes.

Posted by: College Parkian | May 4, 2007 4:15 PM | Report abuse

Please tell me that as a Britishism, "a good run around the block" refers to eliminating excess energy through strenuous non-sexual exercise, and that this wasn't some euphemistically earthy advice from Diana Rigg's mother.

Posted by: ScienceTim | May 4, 2007 4:16 PM | Report abuse

Oh my, the nerdy flame wars may begin soon... I must quit myself of this place for today lest I be dragged into it.

Posted by: Kerric | May 4, 2007 4:17 PM | Report abuse

I feel real sadness for McCain...After being gang banged by his fellow Repugs in 2000 I can*t fathom his kissing up to the far-right now...Doesn*t he see that these guys hate him and disdain his hard won hero status..Chicken hawks can*t stand a real hero it high lights their weaknesses. McCain circa 2000 was a real *straight talker* that*s why they couldn*t let him win over their puppet.

Posted by: Pegleg | May 4, 2007 4:22 PM | Report abuse

I loved the opening sequence with Diana Rigg in sillowhette (I like how that could be spelled) with her cute little ballet-poise karate kick.

Posted by: College Parkian | May 4, 2007 4:22 PM | Report abuse

I feel real sadness for McCain...After being gang banged by his fellow Repugs in 2000 I can*t fathom his kissing up to the far-right now...Doesn*t he see that these guys hate him and disdain his hard won hero status..Chicken hawks can*t stand a real hero it high lights their weaknesses. McCain circa 2000 was a real *straight talker* that*s why they couldn*t let him win over their puppet.

Posted by: Peg leg | May 4, 2007 4:23 PM | Report abuse

Tim, it definitely means healthy outdoor activity. Very public school view of releasing tension!

Posted by: Yoki | May 4, 2007 4:23 PM | Report abuse

I*m old enough to remember Diana Rigg as a young woman....Every schoolboy*s dream.

Posted by: Peg leg | May 4, 2007 4:25 PM | Report abuse

it looks to me as if McCain is emotionally wounded..

If you want to see what he is kissing up to , look at the first chapter of John W. Deans book, "Worse Than WaterGate," Bush played the race card on John McCain in the South Carolina Primary race...

and John McCain said nada...

then he tries to look like bush and supports him no matter what.

heart connection , doesnt mean clarity or truth... McCain is infested with the same evil that is online with bush...

whatever the biggest influence is pulls and directs the tribe...

I am sure that this makes sense to only about 15 of you... none the less.

Posted by: well | May 4, 2007 4:28 PM | Report abuse

>Diana Rigg wouldn't be caught dead in a red hat ala those gals.

You can leave the hat on... da da DA da DA da DA DA

Posted by: Error Flynn | May 4, 2007 4:30 PM | Report abuse

Yoki, it's English Breakfast for me. Sugar (Splenda, actually), no milk. I'll bring scones and real butter.

Of course, I haven't watched Star Trek since the original TV series, so I know nothing.

Posted by: Slyness | May 4, 2007 4:32 PM | Report abuse

Secret woman-of-the-best age club? With a required outfit?

I'm guessing it won't involve wearing leather catsuits. Thank god (Down Mudge! Good boy!).

Hmm, about a nice two-piece dress with pearls and a flowered blouse?

That way you can do covert options and identify each other only by (specified color) carnations in the lapel according to the day of the week.

Posted by: Wilbrod | May 4, 2007 4:33 PM | Report abuse

Hmm, all of these Star Trek references and SciFi in-jokes are affecting me like Diana Riggs' catsuit does Mudge. Or maybe it's just laughing this much in the heat. *fans self*

I've already shared a link with some harp tracks on it to boodlers that have been kind enough to post mask emails here so I could communicate with them without posting mine. This made me feel guilty - everyone's braver than I am.

So I now have a mask email set up at sevenKhans at hotmail dot com and I will be happy to provide the link to any boodlers that email there.

Carry on...


Posted by: sevenswans | May 4, 2007 4:37 PM | Report abuse

What a repulsive idea.

Posted by: Yoki | May 4, 2007 4:38 PM | Report abuse

Wilbrod, I was thinking less of required clothing and more a secret handshake....

EFlynn: My brain hurts....what does the da Da da Da, etc. mean?

(Brain hurts because SUDDENLY with about six days to go, students show up to office hours to plead and beg and cajole...I listen but must be firm. I may go to the pub and lift a pint of say, Harp, with other teachers who feel similarly brain-dead.)

Posted by: College Parkian | May 4, 2007 4:39 PM | Report abuse

CP, point of pronunciation. Don't you think it's "Scandihoovian"?

Posted by: SonofCarl | May 4, 2007 4:39 PM | Report abuse

I absolutely cannot(or more precisely will not) participate in anything that requires a uniform or secret symbol.

Posted by: Yoki | May 4, 2007 4:42 PM | Report abuse

Why yes, SoCarl, you are correct!

...and I forgot the most important double names:

Carl Carlson
Carla Carlson

Charles Carlson
Charlie Carlson
Charlotte Carlson
Carly Carlson
Chuck Carlson
Chuckles Carlson
Chaz Carlson
Chick Carlson

and just to mix it up

Karl Carlson

I will stop now.

Posted by: College Parkian | May 4, 2007 4:43 PM | Report abuse

I'm familiar with about half the list. I'm going to make my commentary a blogpost this weekend, but I have to add to the notable omissions Buffy The Vampire Slayer and Dark Angel. Kick-@ss heroines for those of us not old enough to remember Diana Riggs from the first time around.

That reminds me that I have a best of The Avengers box set I have never watched. It may be time.

Posted by: yellojkt | May 4, 2007 4:45 PM | Report abuse

>EFlynn: My brain hurts....what does the da Da da Da, etc. mean?

CP, it's a reference to a Randy Newman song.

"Baby take off your dress
Yes yes yes
You can leave the hat on. da da etc.

Posted by: Error Flynn | May 4, 2007 4:45 PM | Report abuse

Sounds good to me, Yoki. But... not even berners as a secret symbol?

Posted by: Wilbrod | May 4, 2007 4:46 PM | Report abuse


Think of the Randy Newman/Joe Cocker/Full Monty song. It's a Boodle Inside Joke classic.

Posted by: yellojkt | May 4, 2007 4:47 PM | Report abuse

To quote (or at least paraphrase) the great Homer Simpson: "I understand. I don't CARE, but that doesn't mean I don't understand."

Posted by: ScienceTim | May 4, 2007 4:47 PM | Report abuse

Yoki -- I already am in a segment of sorts: women who

go mad over growing flowers,
live happily with dogs (not cats, sorry, but I am now outed),
wear gardening hats half the year, slightly embarrass their children
suffer blythly with bibliomanai

Posted by: College Parkian | May 4, 2007 4:52 PM | Report abuse

I thought about Buffy, but it's too much a fantasy-based show, with magic and whatnot. Only one season had a significant science fiction element.

Posted by: StorytellerTim | May 4, 2007 4:52 PM | Report abuse

YJ and EF -- Now I understand. Laughing. Inside joke before my boodle-debut....deboodle...

I see my spelling has gone to H E double matchsticks. Better quit. Have accepted invite from teach-buddies to meet at a watering hole. Will go by bike. The place is sorta Cheers-like: always somebody there that knows you by name.
ScTim and others: I have never seen Buffy, but wrote an entire series of grammar lessons featuring Buffy characters and situations. Won a small teaching prize with that.

Posted by: College Parkian | May 4, 2007 5:00 PM | Report abuse

Yellojkt, I incline to agree regarding quality, although many would argue that Buffy is more of a fanasty category.

Babylon 5 is nice, but the first time I saw I didn't like it, since it was very hard to make sense of the episode, especially with how human the Centauri are.
When I finally watched it, I personally always preferred G'Kar. It won emmys and other awards.

And I did like some episodes, which were very tight. This one I rather liked. Especially since it was good to see Brad Dorif playing a well-written role.

Posted by: Wilbrod | May 4, 2007 5:04 PM | Report abuse

The pilot of Babylon 5 was of pretty shaky quality, but I was impressed by the way that they reincorporated the plot of the pilot, and its various loose ends, in the regular series.

Posted by: ScienceTim | May 4, 2007 5:12 PM | Report abuse

And, of course, there was the B5 episode in which Scott Adams appeared as a man who wants to hire Garibaldi to investigate his dog, who he is convinced plans to take over the world. Very, very geeky stuff.

Posted by: ScienceTim | May 4, 2007 5:13 PM | Report abuse

Didn't see that bit. He had only 3 lines in the episode in question.

Somehow I don't think Garbaldi took the job.

Posted by: Wilbrod | May 4, 2007 5:24 PM | Report abuse

I could never see GiraBALDi without thinking of Bruce Willis in the last season of Mooonlighting.

I could never stomach the quality of the acting on B5. When you have to fire your lead to bring on Bruce Boxleitner, you are in big trouble talent-wise.

The Star Trek producers had the genius idea to hire underemployed Shakespearean actors as captains. It's no coincidence that when they strayed from this formula and went for name recognition that the franchise fell apart.

Posted by: yellojkt | May 4, 2007 5:29 PM | Report abuse

True about the acting. That may be why the Gethsmane episode stuck in my head-- it's a guest-star episode with somebody who can really act.

Posted by: Wilbrod | May 4, 2007 5:33 PM | Report abuse

What could be more perfect? The town of Vulcan, Alberta just released registration for it's annual Star Trek festival, Galaxyfest (aka Spockdays).

Spockdays/Galaxyfest 2007

June 8-10, 2007

Featuring Special Guests:

Max Grodenchik (Rom of Deep Space Nine)
Aron Eisenberg (Nog of Deep Space Nine)

Posted by: Yoki | May 4, 2007 5:53 PM | Report abuse

MHughes976 writes: "Your choice was fortunate, not fortuitous. Fortuitous means by chance."

I went to a school play and found a parking spot that happened to be in front of my friend's house. Preparing to drive home, I thought maybe I should check on my friend and he said let's watch the debate. So to me it was all kind of a chance thing. Fortuitous.

Posted by: Achenbach | May 4, 2007 5:56 PM | Report abuse

When I got to Texas I found out that I was an "Anglo." A lot of the Mexican American citizens called themselves "Skins." Taking a lemon and making lemonade I guess.

Now in North Carolina I find myself describing someone and I will say he's Anglo and the natives don't know what I'm saying.

I'm one of those who has written "human" on forms. Maybe I will write "Anglo" one day. If someone tells me I have to follow that with "Saxon" I'll pretend I hate the Saxons. Just to be difficult.

Or maybe instead I should write "Shirt" for my race.

Posted by: Jumper | May 4, 2007 5:59 PM | Report abuse

Men of Harlech,
Can ye see them
Saxon bowmen
Saxon spearmen

Posted by: SonofCarl | May 4, 2007 6:02 PM | Report abuse

Where IS my brain??? Of course B5 and Stargate should be on the list...

No no, don't shoot him, you'll only make him angry.

Posted by: Scottynuke | May 4, 2007 6:13 PM | Report abuse

I am by no means the sci-fi aficionado that many of you folks are, but I've been waiting for somebody to say it (other than the ladies), but nobody has: that list of the "best" 25 movies/shows really sux. It sux on its own merits as a list, and it can be seen to suck because of its 25-year limitation (i.e., it was designed mainly for Gen-Xers and the "younger" group). The proof of this latter point is that if you opened up the time span, damn few of this entries would make it into a 50-year list.

On its own merits, the lists sux because it omits: Starman (1984), I, Robot (2004), Independence Day (not the world's greatest movie, by any means, but better than some of the turkeys in the list by a damn sight), Men in Black, Jurassic Park, and Batman. I might even throw in Spiderman. Quibble with some of these? Sure, be my guest. But ALL of them? Starship Troopers was better than ALL of these? Are you mad?

Second, the list sux because of what it includes: cartoons, and Lost. Whatever the hell Lost is, it ain't much science fiction. Just because it has some weird stuff and some technology in it doesn't make it science fiction. Smoke Monsters and inexplicable Polar Bears don't make it for me. (But yes, I admit to being a "strict constructionist" when it comes to defining sci-fi.)

I don't much care for the notion that comic book heroes are "science-fiction" just because they are in comic books. But if you include Heroes, then there's just no freaking way you can omit Batman and Spiderman.

I'm not too crazy about the notion of time travel in the past (as opposed to the future) as a sci-fi category, because all you really do is cook up a mcguffin that permits it (per Quantum Leap), and then you're really doing a history or alternative history piece. To me, sci-fi needs to look to the future, not put Scott Bacula at Pearl Harbor. But be that as it may if you buy the premise, you buy the bit. In that case, where was "Timeline," a very nice little movie.

Matrix AND Battlestar Galactica II were better than Bladerunner? In what universe does that happen? Galaxy Quest is in--but Spaceballs isn't?


Everybody have a good weekend. Scotty and mo and Kim (?) and I are off for a day of insane wine-purchasing in the Virginia countryside tomorrow.

Posted by: Curmudgeon | May 4, 2007 6:15 PM | Report abuse

Oh, yeah, forgot "12 Monkeys."

Posted by: Curmudgeon | May 4, 2007 6:20 PM | Report abuse

I look forward to your report and recommendations from the wine festival, Mudge.

Jumper, you made me LOL. Nope, Anglo isn't a term you hear much in NC.

Posted by: Slyness | May 4, 2007 6:24 PM | Report abuse

Ummm... Spaceballs is okay, but I actually liked Galaxyquest much better. You gotta split the fingers to understand, I guess.
Alternative history in fact is a valid Sci-fi genre, Mudge. Never heard of those movies. Yeah, I think most of us agree with you-- in fact we're commenting on the rare non-turkeys on the list (and offlist).

Posted by: Wilbrod | May 4, 2007 6:33 PM | Report abuse

Usage note from the American Heritage Dictionary:

"Fortuitous is often confused with fortunate. What is fortuitous happens by chance or accident or without plan; fortunate and lucky are not thus restricted in meaning. What is fortuitous can also be fortunate or lucky, but to employ fortuitous in the sense of those terms, without clear indication in the context of the operation of chance or accident, is loose usage. The following example, in which there is no such indication, is termed unacceptable by 85 per cent of the Usage Panel: 'The meeting proved fortuitous; I came away with a much better idea of my role.'"

Posted by: kbertocci | May 4, 2007 6:51 PM | Report abuse

Frostdottir: Is fortuitous the right word to use here?

Frostbitten: If you can use serendipitous then fortuitous would work.

Frostdottir: You said you would help me. (with eye roll and heavy sigh)

Posted by: frostbitten | May 4, 2007 7:08 PM | Report abuse

They're really out to get your glaucoma meds, and cart you off to the loony bin.

It's all a government conspiracy to curb pleasure gardening, because they're worried that the herbs will help people see it all, man, and know that everything is connected, including the funny way the mailman looks at you and that grimace Bush keeps doing on TV at you exactly when you scratch yourself.... The universe is sending you a message and you must act...

(Tongue in cheek-- I've never been a glaucoma test pilot.)

Sigh... Think Cho inhaled?

Posted by: Wilbrod | May 4, 2007 7:48 PM | Report abuse

mudge - u there??? e-mail me at my yahoo addie!

Posted by: mo | May 4, 2007 7:59 PM | Report abuse

Some people will do anything to keep their name in the press:

Great retrospective of a couple weeks of Tredeau gently lampooning Halberstam in the late '70s:

Posted by: bill everything | May 4, 2007 7:59 PM | Report abuse

yeah, paris is going to jail. good times.
maybe this will spawn another reality show.

Posted by: L.A. lurker | May 4, 2007 8:03 PM | Report abuse

Goodness. Not ANOTHER Republican prezident. Four MORE years of G.W. Bush policy? I think not.

Posted by: Moris Katt | May 4, 2007 8:05 PM | Report abuse

Wilbrod, I most certainly do not think the murderer of Liviu Livescu inhaled. :)

Pot makes you happy and relaxed, usually. Cho could have used some of that. Some people do get a paranoid reaction, but it's very short-term.

I want to note that the above is my *very first* emoticon. I've decided to capitulate and use them, since they're, well, ... useful.

Posted by: Wheezy | May 4, 2007 8:06 PM | Report abuse

Thanks for that link, bill e. When the literary history of the 20th century is written, Trudeau will be at the top. The man is genius.

Posted by: Slyness | May 4, 2007 8:07 PM | Report abuse

De nada, Slyness. Each of those strips had me snorting. Thanks for not pointing out my "irregular" spelling of the cartoonist.

Posted by: bill everything | May 4, 2007 8:14 PM | Report abuse

Kinda what "Mudge said about SF. But I dip in because people I care deeply about swim in SF. Actually, they live and breathe and have their being in SF.

I adore William Kinsella's stuff:
Shoeless Joe
The Iowa Baseball Confederacy

John Crowley's
Little Big

But my favorite disappear-into-another-word books would be Sigrid Unset's
Kristin Lavransdottir (Trilogy)
The Axe (Quartet)
*These books transport me to medieval Norway.

And, in what may be called the "Frederica" novels by A.S. Byatt (_Posession_ amazes but pales in comparison to these books):

A Whistling Woman(2002)
(But still in print are these earlier books)
The Virgin in the Garden(1976)
Still Life (1985)
Babel Tower (1996)

You can read in any order, actually.

So, I like to be transported to other worlds -- SF does this, but so do other books and writers.

Posted by: College Parkian | May 4, 2007 8:16 PM | Report abuse

CP, I loved Kristin Lavransdottir, too! I bought the trilogy once for x-mas for my husband's 13 yr old niece. The family was bookish in a best-seller kind of way, and my very proper m-in-law pulled me aside and asked if the books were "suitable" for a 13 year old. I said that, if memory served, they would be fine. Finally realized it was "Mistress of Husaby" that got her going! Later found that the recipient never bothered with them, but her older brother told me once how much *he* had enjoyed them!

Posted by: Wheezy | May 4, 2007 8:31 PM | Report abuse

The article will be interesting to you, then, Wheezy. The origin of paranoid, anxious, and non-relaxed behavior in marijuana users have been of interest.

Since pot has been becoming much stronger compared to the pot grown in the 60's and 70's, they're seeing more and more cases of people on bad trips, and cases of anxiety and paranoia.

The research indicates that the paranoia is from an excess of THC, and this acts on a specific type of receptor in the brain.

I spoke to a scientist who was doing research in that very field-- cannabinoid receptors, and she gave us a very thorough presentation on what cannabinoid receptors (which are activated by marijuana) do, and how precisely they were able to track a sudden increase in anxious behavior to an excess of marijuna even more than baseline normal.

Fascinating stuff. Basically, CRs do a lot to help buffer stuff that could damage the brain in excess-- GABA release, calcium uptake, etc. They are still investigating the precise relationships and how the CR system helps balance the brain.

The long-term effects are unclear, but what IS clear in a recent british study was that schizophrenics smoking pot had their symptoms worsen to the point they had to terminate the trial as it was too unsafe for schizophrenics to participate.

Now second question: do repeated pot use and "Bad trips" have a long-term effect or not?

Well if marijuana is not addictive (that is, the body does not physiologically adapt to the increased exposure to marijuana), then the answer would be yes.

Decline in cognitive function has been recorded in long-term heavy pot smokers, although some dispute this, generally the ones who smoke it.

Anyway, because the CR plays a role in brain self-regulation of balance (homeostasis), a already vulnerable brain would be more apt to be pushed over the edge by using pot, should enough be taken to induce psychosis.

Whether the brain can "come back" is unknown, but the evidence indicates that any psychotic episode tends to leave some degree of brain damage.

And now it is proven that marijuana does cause damage on brain scans.

Interestingly, the schizophrenics thought pot helped them, despite objective assessment to the contrary.

Posted by: Wilbrod | May 4, 2007 8:35 PM | Report abuse

Wheezy! Ain't boodle-peeps amazing? SU books usually draw total blanks, although she won the Nobel Prize in the teens, twenties, or thirties....

This young man must be special to read KL. Can you make sure he has the _Axe_? A young man is banished from Norway after killing a man in a bar he makes his way in the world as an outlander is good stuff.

Posted by: College Parkian | May 4, 2007 8:41 PM | Report abuse

>(Tongue in cheek-- I've never been a glaucoma test pilot.)

Uh yeah, bad trip man. Pass me the ice cream.

Posted by: Error Flynn | May 4, 2007 8:49 PM | Report abuse

Why EF -- I am finishing my rhubarb sauce with a bit of vanilla ice cream -- this moment.

I too, have never served as a test pilot.

But I would work tirelessly for the liberalization of rhubarb laws, if need be.

Posted by: College Parkian | May 4, 2007 8:54 PM | Report abuse

Wilbrod, your link on THC and the other compound in pot was interesting, although not quite convincing to me. For one, it sounded as if they were giving these folks this pure chemical at least every day for a long time. That's way more than social users would get.

And that was my other (unarticulated, sorry!) point in my response - it's a social drug which you usually only get from *friends* and people who trust you enough to share it with you. Cho, it sounds like, never had any friends. Of course, he may have bought it from some street dealer. I doubt it, though. BTW, I don't do drugs at this stage in my life, but I've seen enough long-term users not to doubt the failing memory and loss of brain-power associated with it. I'm not saying it's harmless.

CP - said "boy" is now 35 and a translator for the Navy. Nice kid.

Posted by: Wheezy | May 4, 2007 8:54 PM | Report abuse

>vanilla ice cream
Vanilla and orange sherbert for me - a Creamsicle!

Posted by: Error Flynn | May 4, 2007 9:04 PM | Report abuse

Wilbrod, I just went back and re-read your first link - it was the other, calming compound that they administered for a month. Sorry. I'll shut up now.

Posted by: Wheezy | May 4, 2007 9:15 PM | Report abuse

'Mistress of Husaby' ellides in the brain, perhaps to, 'Mistress Hussy.' So, MIL was worried. Makes me laugh.

I bought a Joyce Carol Oats paperback once at a used bookstore, despite the full-on bodice ripper cover. _BelleFluer_ perhaps. Hard to follow but I had very sick children at the time, so I could barely read _Cat in the Hat_ and sustain the plot line. My MIL remarked that she was surprised that I went in for that sort of "vulgar trash."

Another immersion book set would be Larry McMurtry's _Lonesome Dove_ books. Fabulous. Should be read if you want to understand the expansion of the country. The Robert DuVal/Tommy Lee Jones mini-series is pretty darn true.

I also like to read _The Godfather _ each year. When I see the first movie, I am so struck by the softness of young Al Capone, playing Michael Coreleone.

Posted by: College Parkian | May 4, 2007 9:16 PM | Report abuse

Whoopsie! Got me bleeding Eye-talian Albertos mixed up.

Al PACINO (of the baby face long ago).

Al CAPONE (I cannot comment on his youthful complexion).

Wheezy, my dumminess trumps your dumminess. Better go to bed!

Posted by: College Parkian | May 4, 2007 9:20 PM | Report abuse

CP, I'm afraid I'm one of them. Someday I'm going to have to get through the whole Nobel Prize for Literature list.

...On second look, probably not.

Toni Morrison-- very uneven. I cannot express how much I hate "Beloved".
William Golding, "Lord of the Flies".
Sinclair Lewis.

On the list I stand up in applause for the playwrights, the poets, and maybe 5-10 other authors who have been known to write anything funny.

So it looks like the odds are on being any random Nobel-prize winner's book being describable as "melancholic" "tragic" "haunting" or "painting a portrait of society" and such isn't-this-so-profound-stuff.

If I want a mirror to society, I can just read non-fiction. Or Science Fiction.

I mean, I know humor is hard to translate, but do you have to channel Ibsen to win a Nobel Prize?

For fiction, I'd rather read something like Horatio Hornblower instead. Or Mark Twain. Or Issac Bashevis Singer. Mind you, I'll look up some of those poets on the list. I always loved international poetry.

Posted by: Wilbrod | May 4, 2007 9:23 PM | Report abuse

CP, I really think it was the word "mistress." We found out later that she was in the early stages of Alzheimer's when she said that, but I still found it funny.

Posted by: Wheezy | May 4, 2007 9:27 PM | Report abuse

By the way, CP, I stopped reading Joyce Carol Oates with "Bellefleur" - that was about the time when, to my mind, JCO went over the edge into sadistic weirdness. Dipping a toe in with her stuff since I've been frightened and disgusted.

Wilbrod, I'm curious - what is it about "Beloved" that made you hate it so much? I read it about 15 years ago and really can't remember it, but I liked it. I gave my copy away so haven't had a chance to look at it again since.

Posted by: Wheezy | May 4, 2007 9:32 PM | Report abuse

By the way, this is not meant as a disrespect to Ibsen. I actually love Ibsen.
He's so stark in his dialogue in translation, it shines forth, and I can enact his plays in my head, every nuance, body language and so on.

I have to remind myself I haven't actually seen his plays when I flash back to the image of Nora wearing a cheerful, lemon yellow but rather thin and tawdry dress, or to the wooden stage slat where people are enacting "Ghosts". It's just so much for the imagination there.

But if Ibsen was writing a novel instead of a play... he'd be hard for me to take for 200 pages with the slow sketching of detail. Just saying.

Posted by: Wilbrod | May 4, 2007 9:34 PM | Report abuse

Wilbrod -- I, too, like the humor genre.

Wheezy, yes, "mistress" is enough. My grandmother addressed letters to us thusly:

Mistress Lassie CeePeeClan

Brothers warranted this:

Master Laddie CeePeeClan

I feel spelling errors coming on, so will wish all a restful eve.

Posted by: College Parkian | May 4, 2007 9:36 PM | Report abuse

Mo, I just e-mailed ya. Whassup?

Posted by: Curmudgeon | May 4, 2007 9:36 PM | Report abuse

I am torn. Ambivalent.

I think the Frederica books are amazing (and get better over time -- there might yet be more we don't know about).

And still. But still... Possession is the closest thing to a Victorian, richly textured universal novel (CP: cf: Middlemarch, George Eliot, Blackwell) we have in our lifetimes. I love AS Byatt. As I love George Eliot (Maryann Evans, Mrs. Lewes) more than I love Byatt.

Sad, reely.

Posted by: Yoki | May 4, 2007 9:41 PM | Report abuse

Wheezy, thanks for the confirmation about JCO "Belleflower" I thought something stunk but as I say, not in full form.

Posted by: College Parkian | May 4, 2007 9:41 PM | Report abuse

The sheer laziness of the author.

I'm swearing, she cut and pasted the same block of description again and again in a few different chapters. 99% the same. It was pretty and lyrical at first, but not worth repeating. It felt like the whole book is a rewrite of one chapter, over and over again.

A girl of my age agreed with me, "it's boring, like tasting the same taste over and over again."

I heard this book termed a "cyclic novel". Me no gusta. It's recycled writing and a waste of my time.

I actually found myself becoming flat-out furious halfway through at how static it was. I finished it and managed somehow not to hurl it across the room.

Toni Morrison can write-- I read "The Bluest Eye", which is very tragic, but Beloved is not her best work. Her most daring and oddest work, maybe. Not her best.

Posted by: Wilbrod | May 4, 2007 9:42 PM | Report abuse

Stupidest Drug Story of the Week
Is Reuters drinking bong water?

Posted by: Thhwwwpppkafkaf999 | May 4, 2007 9:47 PM | Report abuse

I thought Beloved was an amazing book - I even liked the movie. It's a horrifying story about slavery, though, so it is hard to read some parts. But it's based on a true story, I believe.

Twelve Monkeys is one of my favorite movies - that list was pretty strange.

I've never heard "tripping" associated with pot. And I would have to wonder if being given a dose of pure THC would be very different from smoking a joint. Not that I have recent experience with any of this, mind you, but I was around in the '60s (actually it was the '70s till I tried any of that).

Posted by: mostlylurking | May 4, 2007 9:49 PM | Report abuse

Way back to Jethro Tull - I thought Aqualung was creepy, to the point where I always say I like Tull's first 3 albums (This Was, Stand Up, Benefit), which were more bluesy, too. Although Aqualung does have some good cuts on it. It was sort of infuriating that Aqualung was more of a commercial success here - there's just no accounting for taste, I guess.

Posted by: mostlylurking | May 4, 2007 9:59 PM | Report abuse

>This Was, Stand Up, Benefit

mostly, they're my favorites as well. Although I did like "Living In The Past" a lot too. I sort of lost them around "Minstrel" days.

Posted by: Error Flynn | May 4, 2007 10:02 PM | Report abuse

mostly, that is what my grandma used to say. "No accounting for taste." I *love* Aqualung. And I smuggled it into Eastern Europe in 1969 to the daughter of one of my Dad's agents. Excellent! She was the only teenager in Prague who had subversive music.

Posted by: Yoki | May 4, 2007 10:04 PM | Report abuse

'night all. I can't bear it any more.

Posted by: Yoki | May 4, 2007 10:07 PM | Report abuse

Tomorrow is a big day around here, our baby bird is flying back to the nest for the summer. My boodling will be severely curtailed for a while, even ceasing altogether in a week or so when we take a 10-day camping trip, that's right, off the grid for 10 days. Imagine.

I didn't want my final comment to be some stupid dictionary quote, so I'm popping in to say good night and best wishes to all.

Cassandra, I hope your medical ordeals are over for a while. Keep laughing and praying, and you'll be okay.

All you wine festival attenders, remember to be moderate and have a designated driver. Have fun and report back in detail!

I only made it to page 16 out of 44 of the Republican debate transcript--it was uphill from the time Huckabee made the comment about generals with "mud and blood on their boots" and then it got more and more difficult and I gave up--but I still have it and I will look it over.

Vaya con brio, todas las enchiladas...

Or is that taken, I should just say "hasty banana"

Good night, all.

Posted by: kbertocci | May 4, 2007 10:15 PM | Report abuse

Ugh. Jim Gilmore. I thought he'd gone away.

Posted by: TBG | May 4, 2007 10:15 PM | Report abuse

It's interesting that the "liberal" media failed to mention the fact that there are 3 GOP candidates who, by opposing evolution, are in effect barbarians.

Posted by: Steve J. | May 4, 2007 10:17 PM | Report abuse

kb, have a great time with your daughter!

I saw this story about a golf course in Front Royal, where I used to live - and was thinking about what you said about golf courses in your area. It's true they're green, but to me they're just a bad sign of overdevelopment. Ah, progress...or not. Anyway, I'm just gasping at the thought of a ritzy "destination resort" in humble little Front Royal.

Hasta banana!

Posted by: mostlylurking | May 4, 2007 10:24 PM | Report abuse

And for the local BPH'ers, you might get a glimpse of the Queen Tuesday. From today's chat about the Queen:

Washington, D.C.: Is it possible to see the Queen during her visit to Washington, D.C.? Will she be doing any public events?

John Geiger: Most of the schedule is invite only, but obviously she is visiting around D.C. and there will be plenty of opportunities to see her in person. The biggest chance might be at the World War Two memorial on Tuesday afternoon, where she will lay a wreath.

Posted by: mostlylurking | May 4, 2007 10:33 PM | Report abuse

kb, have a wonderful time getting caught up with your daughter and fun camping.

Posted by: dmd | May 4, 2007 10:41 PM | Report abuse

Mostly I am torn as much as I am ambivalent about the Queen, the laying of wreaths at the WWII memorial is something I am considering attending if it fits in my schedule, if for no other reason than to honour those in my family and my husbands family who served.

Posted by: dmd | May 4, 2007 10:52 PM | Report abuse

Have fun kb

Posted by: Boko999 | May 4, 2007 11:04 PM | Report abuse

Tull was described as a blues band on a compiliation album called "Oct 17, 1967."
also on the album:
Peaches and Regalia-Zappa (my mother loved it. His other stuff. Not. So. Much)
Spirit in the Sky- Greenbaum
Rattlesnake shake- Tull
Something or other? Fleetwood Mac

The album's long gone and nostagalia must be stamped down.
That might have been 1969. No wonder I couldn't google it.

Posted by: Boko999 | May 4, 2007 11:17 PM | Report abuse

Ron Paul is the only candidate worth voting for. Every other candidate bends over for big business at the expense of the common people

Posted by: Subir Grewal | May 4, 2007 11:19 PM | Report abuse

The Jethro Tull tune cootie made me go out and buy their "Very Best Of" album. I also picked up greatest hits packages from Atlanta Rhythm Section (I used to live in Doraville) and Elvis Costello. My wife got the new Michael Buble album. So now I am ripping them all to my iPod so I can listen to them tomorrow while watching the Kinetic Sculpture Race.

Posted by: yellojkt | May 4, 2007 11:22 PM | Report abuse

dmd, the WWII memorial was a new one for me. We walked by it, but didn't stay long, as we had miles to go to see other things. It's quite impressive. Hope you have a great time.

Posted by: mostlylurking | May 4, 2007 11:45 PM | Report abuse

Disagree with the characterization of McCain being too intense and hot. Why shouldn't McCain be intense against Osama Bin Laden? After all, we are fighting a war against him.

Posted by: paulngager14 | May 4, 2007 11:56 PM | Report abuse

It is generally agreed that OBL is in Pakistan, but we have no war there. If the focus of the fundamentalist's war (Christian v. Islamic) is embodied in an individual, then who is the focus of Christendom; surely not GWB.

Posted by: Shiloh | May 5, 2007 12:25 AM | Report abuse

Back from work and enjoyed the moonrise tonight. There is something very cool about the moon a few days after it has been full.

Seems like a nice night for a walk.

Posted by: greenwithenvy | May 5, 2007 12:35 AM | Report abuse

"Gunism" (still more on VT) --

Posted by: LTL-CA | May 5, 2007 1:32 AM | Report abuse

I actually have come to feel, if not pity, then some sympathy for Paris Hilton over time. I'm almost profoundly uninterested in her, but she exists as a cultural phenomenon that I've certainly noticed.

I don't really think that she sought all of the attention that she has gotten, but has often had it thrust upon her, and is sometimes a bit demonized just for having decided to be a good sport and play along.

Somehow, I suspect that she and her lawyer will survive the awful ordeal of a jail sentence relatively intact.

Posted by: Bob S. | May 5, 2007 1:40 AM | Report abuse

LTL-CA. Very good article.

I've been struck by how the first impulse of some people is "more guns!" as though it protects against baddies.

A gun is NOT a defense. It's only a psychological defense through the threat or potentiality of death.

You want to threaten people all the time in public, there's something wrong with you, not society.

Nearly all police officers carry guns, and work with partners. And they die on the job anyway.

That's because guns will not defend you against an attack, it can only hurt or kill the attacker, assuming you are awake, conscious, and within reach of the gun and able to use it. This is a big IF whenever somebody gets the jump on you or breaks in while you're asleep, etc.

Yet, way some people talk about guns, you'd think guns were people's friends who'd have their backs all the time.

A gun's a hunk of metal designed to kill, okay? It has no loyalty. Drop it wrong, and it can kill you. Lots of weird accidents happen with guns. Just ask Dick Cheney's friend.

Posted by: Wilbrod | May 5, 2007 3:22 AM | Report abuse

Wilbrod, what in the world were you doing up at this hour? :-)

Posted by: Scottynuke | May 5, 2007 4:22 AM | Report abuse

> LTL-CA. Very good article.

Yeah, I wanted to quote the whole thing, but it's a bit long.

Posted by: LTL-CA | May 5, 2007 4:28 AM | Report abuse

Hey LTL-CA! *slowly caffeinating waves*

Posted by: Scottynuke | May 5, 2007 4:32 AM | Report abuse

Ron Paul 2008!
Check out this man's policies, they're a wonder to behold.

Posted by: Gloria | May 5, 2007 5:20 AM | Report abuse

Only white Caucasian males? What's the name of the party again? Republican party?

Posted by: Yep | May 5, 2007 6:09 AM | Report abuse

Good morning, friends. Enjoy your day, Kbert, and you too, Mudge. I hope all of you enjoy your weekend. We have rainy weather here, but we need the rain.

In our morning newspaper here, we got a letter from an angry resident because fire has burned cabin and property belonging to this person. The anger stems from lack of resources given to this fire from the city and county. The writer accuses government of wasting money on schools, health care, and the Seaboard station, and not enough money given to the protection of private property. The writer accuses the local government of only being interested in private property when there is road to be had or taxes to be paid. I, for one, do not believe money is wasted when used for health or schools. I'm not sure about the Seaboard station. I am sorry that this person lost their cabin and their land was burned.

Have to get dress, have a meeting at the church. The pain has stopped for now. I hope for good. It is time for Vacation Bible school, and we have a lot to do to get ready. I can't believe school will be out soon. The kids have twelve more days before the "end of the year test", and some of them really need to work. I will pray and do all I can to help. I so want them to have a good outcome.

Morning, Mudge, Scotty, Slyness, and all.*waving* And what's up, Martooni?

Have a great weekend, folks. Give God some of your time, show your family you love them, and try to get some rest.

God loves us so much more than we can imagine through Him that died for all, Jesus Christ.

Posted by: Cassandra S | May 5, 2007 7:08 AM | Report abuse

Good mornin' all...

And I mean it.

If these mornings don't quit being so beautiful, I just may have to say "to hell with it all" and go fishing. What's really scary is that they're calling for three more days of it (in a row, no less -- not just three nice days randomly scattered over the whole summer). This just isn't natural. Ohioans across the state are stockpiling canned goods and toilet paper, nervously keeping an eye to the sky for the arrival of the Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse.

Of course, nice weather means "busy, busy" for Handy Hippie (which also means "cha-ching, cha-ching") so I'm off to the races.

Peace out, my friends...

(and today makes 39) :-)

Posted by: martooni | May 5, 2007 8:15 AM | Report abuse

I have a feeling Handy Hippie is going to be phenomenally successful in the short and long run...go for it, Martooni!

Cassandra, your town has a volunteer fire department, right? So any tax funds that go to the VFD are pretty low? You get what you pay for, even in delivery of fire services. This is not to denigrate the volunteers in any way! If you want a four-to-six minute response of resources necessary to extinguish a structure fire, you're going to have to pay a career department. That's why we have insurance, and why the rates are different in different places. To give you some idea of the cost, in Charlotte we figure $1.2 million per year to staff a fire company. A first alarm assignment is two engines and a ladder, so figure $3.6 million annually. I'll bet the elected officials would have a cow before they would approve a tax hike for those kinds of resources.

No, I don't think spending money on schools and health care is stupid. Gotta do it. But if you want public safety services too, gotta pay for those also. It's a matter of balancing what you can afford.

My husband read that the Georgetown library fire was started by workmen who tried to fight it for 10 to 15 minutes before they called 911. Starting a fire is no big deal, it happens all the time. Delaying a call for help is stupid, stupid, stupid. That also happens all the time.

Posted by: Slyness | May 5, 2007 8:31 AM | Report abuse

Slyness-your comment struck a chord with me as our small city (pop 99) works with the volunteer fire dept. to try to come up with the 6k a year it takes to pay the mortgage on our community center/fire hall. We could collect 100% of everyone's income, including social security, welfare and treating food stamps like cash, and we still wouldn't have enough to pay fire fighters. Then again, when people choose to live here they know what they're getting into and we jokingly say the dept. motto should be "We save basements." To our north a department refused to respond to a call where no lives were in danger because the property owner had not paid the voluntary fire protection fee they still use for their "unorganized townships" (no government to pay township fire protection to the dept). MN courts ruled in favor of the fire dept. when the owner sued.

On the other hand, I never could understand why NoVA's urban counties still rely on volunteers. There are some paid firefighters, particularly on the day shift, but converting to a completely career force is fought tooth and nail.
In Prince William Co. for instance there are about 370,000 residents served by 350 career uniformed firefighters and 55 civilian support staff. The career force augments the 1,026 volunteers. (All data from the official web site and as of 2006) I often think the opposition comes as much from those volunteers, who can treat the dept like a very demanding and exclusive club, as it does from tax payers.

Posted by: frostbitten | May 5, 2007 9:05 AM | Report abuse

I recently saw a job ad on Craigslist for a weekend copy editor at I guess they didn't get too many responses. Here's the current caption on the home page:

U.S. Targeting Immigrant 'Absconders'
ICE agents approach a home in Arlington in search of an illeagal immigrant.

Posted by: TBG | May 5, 2007 9:33 AM | Report abuse

Frosti, tradition rules in Prince William County. Eventually, the volunteers will retire away and the career department will take over. I know some folks in PW Fire Admin, and they have to tread very lightly when it comes to dealing with the volunteers.

I'm glad the courts sided with the volunteers in MN. I think I've said it before, but I'll say it again: without the volunteers, we'd have little fire service in this country. Of 32,000 departments in the U.S., less than a thousand are fully-paid career organizations.

Posted by: Slyness | May 5, 2007 9:51 AM | Report abuse

"I know some folks in PW Fire Admin, and they have to tread very lightly when it comes to dealing with the volunteers."

I'm sure that is quite an understatement Slyness.

Saints be praised! Phone just rang with an offer of rhubarb plants. Must run.

Would love to read boodler opinions of the A01 story: Troops at Odds With Ethics Standards.

Posted by: frostbitten | May 5, 2007 10:08 AM | Report abuse


I'm sure those nice ICE people just wanted to get the ill eagle to a vet.


Posted by: Scottynuke | May 5, 2007 10:08 AM | Report abuse

Did someone mention FISHING?

I am attending a wedding next to the river here today, maybe I can take my pole and a few wormies along with me. I am sure the wedding party wouldn't mind.

Posted by: greenwithenvy | May 5, 2007 10:35 AM | Report abuse

Thank goodness the huge number of corporate types who kill a half a bottle of scotch every night aren't on marijuana instead. I feel much safer. Their judgment is undoubtedly fine. And all those people who get drunk and get in a rage and kill people: at least they don't think inappropriate thoughts. That increasing potency thing is worrisome too. Of course it's really just a matter of them learning what schwag is. And avoiding it.

Posted by: Jumper | May 5, 2007 10:40 AM | Report abuse

I am still laughing so hard I can not write anything.

Posted by: Tony | May 5, 2007 10:59 AM | Report abuse

Wouldn't it be more like learning what schwag is and using it instead of the more potent stuff? Or is the "it" in "And avoiding it" the more potent stuff? In which case I stand corrected and am ready to brave the cold and wind to plan my rhubarb.

Posted by: frostbitten | May 5, 2007 11:24 AM | Report abuse

SCC: plant my rhubarb.

I've been planning on planting it for 2 years already.

Posted by: frostbitten | May 5, 2007 11:25 AM | Report abuse

>That increasing potency thing is worrisome too.

You notice they never mention the increasing price either. From what I hear it's like 5-20x what it cost back in the day. The wages of our average college kid have not kept up, so they do what?

Smoke little bits in bongs. Sort of mitigates the potency.

Posted by: Error Flynn | May 5, 2007 11:44 AM | Report abuse

I just love the Queen's hats.

Today at the derby it will be interesting to see all of the hats on display.

I am sure there is a side bet on who has the best hat on today.

Posted by: greenwithenvy | May 5, 2007 11:46 AM | Report abuse

more brilliant muppetry...

Posted by: Maggie O'D | May 5, 2007 11:47 AM | Report abuse

Thanks Maggie O'D. Reminded me of this Muppet episode

after which Frostson announced he wanted to be Debbie Harry. He outgrew it.

Posted by: frostbitten | May 5, 2007 12:13 PM | Report abuse

TBG, last weekend (I think) I saw a headline with "it's" instead of "its". Wonder if they'd hire me and let me work from home? Not that I have any experience as a copy editor, but still...

Maggie, thanks for that. I love the Muppets.

Posted by: mostlylurking | May 5, 2007 12:25 PM | Report abuse

frostbitten, my reaction to the article about soldiers' ethics is that I'm not really surprised. I think when people are put into a situation like war or an occupation, where they're risking their lives and under incredible stress, and up against an enemy that is not following that same set of ethics, that they will not always act "honorably". Especially when you have the president and vice-president and CIA director saying at the same time that "we don't torture" but refusing to define "torture" and giving examples where it is acceptable. I've known people who came back from combat in Vietnam very changed - again, not unexpected, but sad. That's why war should be the last resort - you sow the wind and reap the whirlwind.

One of the most chilling things I've heard was an interview with someone whose father experienced the Holocaust as a boy. He told a story about his father's reaction to something that his friends had done, and his father said, "Friends. Put you and your friends in a room for a week without food, and see who your friends are." What people do to survive a stressful situation is unpredictable, I suppose. Probably having a strong foundation in ethics helps, but at some point, if you're facing life or death, you may do anything. That's not to say that people shouldn't be held accountable, but I still say, don't put them in that situation to begin with.

Posted by: mostlylurking | May 5, 2007 1:23 PM | Report abuse

Talking about wapo caption. After Woodward comment about spy chief's book, a caption showed as "Woodward LOL, Tuesday, May 8, 3:00 PM." LOL? Can I get some help here?

Posted by: daiwanlan | May 5, 2007 2:19 PM | Report abuse

Live On Line perhaps.

Posted by: frostbitten | May 5, 2007 2:26 PM | Report abuse

daiwanlan, I thought the same thing at first - but frostbitten is correct.

Posted by: mostlylurking | May 5, 2007 2:30 PM | Report abuse

For years a corner of my mind translated "LOL" as "lots of luck." I finally got it right. Laugh out loud.

Posted by: Jumper | May 5, 2007 2:44 PM | Report abuse

The same corner of my mind kept translating "MSM" as "Microsoft News."

Which reminds me of the pre-2004 thingy the Parade Magazine ran that named corporate presidents and CEOs who supported either Bush or Kerry, and I noted that dwat wabbit Bill Gates came out for Bush. With the cost so far at about a half-trillion $ I am wondering if these same corporate executives would like to pony up at this time.

Posted by: Jumper | May 5, 2007 2:50 PM | Report abuse

Frosti - I finished the article and I can't help feeling that the prevalence of these disturbing attitudes among some of our troops come from the very top down. The shameful record of this administration in regards to torture, Guantanamo, renditions, etc., makes a mockery of the American ideal of our nation as a model of liberty, law, honor and human rights. How can that not trickle down?

I think most of our military is composed of decent, honorable people. They have been very badly served by President Bush.

I try so hard not to be a reflexive Bush-basher, but he makes it so hard!

Posted by: Kim | May 5, 2007 3:02 PM | Report abuse

I am disconsolate...I wasn't able to get to Montpelier for the wine festival. I really wanted to go before I knew there would be boodlers present, so when I discovered that Mudge, Scotty and mo would be there I was really excited.

Unfortunately, 'twas not to be...too many things to get done in too little time.

Posted by: Kim | May 5, 2007 3:06 PM | Report abuse

LOL has always meant "little old lady," as in "Ew. No. That dress looks LOL."

In fact, when I see "LOL" I think of "little old lady" and then I laugh out loud.

Posted by: TBG | May 5, 2007 4:06 PM | Report abuse

Of course, I live in the state where my kids have to take standardized tests called SOLs.

Posted by: TBG | May 5, 2007 4:07 PM | Report abuse

And they say school administrators have no sense of humor!

Posted by: dbG | May 5, 2007 4:19 PM | Report abuse

CP, I'll join your ladies-of-the-best-age club. Just don't make me wear a red hat. Or anything purple.

Posted by: Raysmom | May 5, 2007 4:38 PM | Report abuse

And If I go to Tuesday's BPH, I won't drink to the queen. Up the Republic!

Posted by: Maggie O'D | May 5, 2007 5:28 PM | Report abuse

Kim writes-The shameful record of this administration in regards to torture, Guantanamo, renditions, etc., makes a mockery of the American ideal of our nation as a model of liberty, law, honor and human rights. How can that not trickle down?

I agree.

As does every senior military leader I know.

In the Summer 2006 issue of Parameters (Journal of the US Army War College) Lou Dimarco wrote:

"The disadvantages of sanctioned abuse or torture, or even the perception of torture, at the strategic level dwarf any short-term payoffs, regardless of technical legality. In counterterrorism and counterinsurgency warfare, the moral component of the fight is strategically decisive. Commanders are obligated to maintain both the reality and the perception of impeccable moral conduct within their commands. Senior commanders have the responsibility of ensuring that the tactics of their subordinates reinforce strategic goals and objectives.

History offers no modern examples of the strategic effectiveness of harsh interrogation techniques, but it is replete with examples of the negative strategic effects such techniques have on the counterinsurgency force."

In other words, taking the moral high ground is both ethically and strategically superior to how this "war" has been conducted. The truly frustrating part of this for an Army family member is that this is not some fringe minority opinion that the administration disregarded in favor of the weight of the collective wisdom of our military leaders.

Sen. McCain said it best in regard to Abu Ghraib- "This is not about who they are, it is about who we are." Who "we" have been turned into turns my stomach.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 5, 2007 6:15 PM | Report abuse

Street Sense wins the Derby. It was a good race. And I just love the Hats!!!

Posted by: greenwithenvy | May 5, 2007 6:33 PM | Report abuse

That was my 6:15

Posted by: frostbitten | May 5, 2007 6:39 PM | Report abuse

I'm watching Wag the Dog. Who knew it was a prescient documentary?

Posted by: frostbitten | May 5, 2007 6:51 PM | Report abuse

I agree 100% with the 6:15 poster. When I first heard about Abu Ghraib, I had hope we could still pull something out of the fire in Iraq. That day I muttered, "We've lost. We should just leave now." Our conduct has been disgraceful and unfitting for our country.

On a lighter note, I have my full responses to the EW SciFi list.

I spent a lot of the day watching the Baltimore Kinetic Sculpture Race. There were lots of funny hats, but not the kind you wear to the Derby. The Queen would have had a lot more fun of she had been in Bawlmer today.

Posted by: yellojkt | May 5, 2007 6:53 PM | Report abuse

I know we have a lot of dinosaur fiends out there and saw this on Digg:

What fully jointed means, I have no idea.

Posted by: yellojkt | May 5, 2007 7:34 PM | Report abuse

I killed the boodle. I better go drink some tequila.

Posted by: yellojkt | May 5, 2007 8:24 PM | Report abuse

>I better go drink some tequila.

At least you have some new tunes to go with it!

Posted by: Error Flynn | May 5, 2007 8:42 PM | Report abuse

Rumble!! Jets and Sharks on (Washington Pub broadcast channel) 26! Guys in jeans dancing and glaring at each other!

And Natalie Wood. I believe I may have mentioned my fondness for Ms. Wood on previous occasions. (And Rita Moreno has always been terrific.)

Frosty, your 6:15 was eloquent. Well done.

Yes, we're back from the Montpelier Wine Festival, several hundred bucks poorer but 39 bottles of wine richer. Plus three wine glasses. And numerous tastings. Numerouso. Numerotissimoto. Lots. Burp. Scuse moi.

We all had a fun time. (Oh, now they're all dancing in the gym. And I got hunch there's gonna be trouble any minute! come the Sharks...oh, wait, it'll be OK, Gomez Addams is organizing a game... uh, now they're all doing the Mambo...this can't end well...I want a sports coat just like Russ Tamblyn's...wait, the screen's getting all blurry....Maria...Tony...a little ballet...) (I shouldn't be making fun; I really love this movie.) (That 'Nardo, he's so strict...uh-oh: it's set for midnight, Doc's Candy Store... ) Scotty and April arrived about an hour after my wife and me, and through the miracle of state-of-the-art 21st century technology we were able to link up with each other by cellphone while standing a hundred feet apart while wearing our red Washington Nationals hats. And not long after that Mo and her Mom arrived. (...wait...some of the P.R. girls like to be in Amereeka...and the guys don't...). After a while it started spitting, and then raining lightly, and we all boogied to Fredericksburg, where -- in honor of Cinco De Mayo -- we all had dinner in a Mexican restaurant. Mo and Scotty demonstrated the "Grover Wave" for my wife and Mo's mom.

(The balcony scene. Lotsa fire escapes. Marnie Nixon's singing "Tonight." Pardon me while a have a moment.)

Posted by: Curmudgeon | May 5, 2007 8:54 PM | Report abuse

Mudge, you'll pardon me if I flip back and forth between Ms. Wood and a Rush concert/documentary I stumbled upon (hey, they're playing "Tom Sawyer").

I've completely missed the past couple days of Kits and Boodles. I trust everyone who went to the wine festival had a good time.

I'm sorry I missed you all, but I'll see those of you who are coming to the BPH on tuesday (yes, Raysmom, I am expecting to see you there, despite a comment I see you made above).

Oops, Rush is starting into "Free Will," time for me to start the air drumming. And shrieking along with Geddy Lee.


Posted by: bc | May 5, 2007 9:12 PM | Report abuse

Thanks for the reminder of Marni Nixon, Mudge.

Posted by: LTL-CA | May 5, 2007 9:16 PM | Report abuse

You're welcome, LTL. But my I ask why?

(Uh-oh. Maria feels pretty. Oh so pretty.)

Posted by: Curmudgeon | May 5, 2007 9:19 PM | Report abuse

M, I've gotten a lot of enjoyment from her singing, but of course she doesn't get much recognition so I had forgotten about her -- even though she sang three gigantic roles (Hepburn in My Fair Lady, Kerr in King & I, Wood in West Side Story) plus a lot of others.

Posted by: LTL-CA | May 5, 2007 9:34 PM | Report abuse

bc, might I request a demostration of that air drumming at the BPH :-)

Posted by: dmd | May 5, 2007 9:37 PM | Report abuse

I know, LTL--she had a terrific voice.

(Oh no! Tybalt has just stabbed Mercutio, and Romeo stabbed Tybalt, and here come the cops!)

Posted by: Curmudgeon | May 5, 2007 9:43 PM | Report abuse

>And Natalie Wood

Loved her in The Great Race!

Posted by: Error Flynn | May 5, 2007 9:44 PM | Report abuse

Once heard Nick Spitzer (NPR's American Routes) interview Marni. Had no regrets being the secret voice(s).

If I may channel my juvenile side, the discussion reminds me of the riddle of what is the only wood that doesn't float.

I apologize in advance.

Posted by: bill everything | May 5, 2007 9:54 PM | Report abuse

(Ice is teaching 'em how to be cool by dancing in a parking garage. But I don't think it's gonna help. And I'm not sure the lyric, "Got a rocket in your pocket?" has quite the same meaning today. Just a thought.)

Posted by: Curmudgeon | May 5, 2007 9:55 PM | Report abuse

It was a good Derby (or Darby, as the BBC announcers say). Andrew Beyer picked the winner. CowTown, you were right about having no speed - Cowtown Cat came in last. A respectable third for Curlin, dr.

Posted by: mostlylurking | May 5, 2007 10:11 PM | Report abuse

Feliz Cinco de Mayo! (My husband cooked Mexican food tonight.)

Posted by: mostlylurking | May 5, 2007 10:14 PM | Report abuse

I just got back from a Drinko de Mayo party my boss had. She had some drink from Brazil you have like a mohito wth crushed ice and mint. Very strong. I will check my spelling in the am for any SCC's necessary. Now I think i will just pass out.

Posted by: yellojkt | May 5, 2007 10:52 PM | Report abuse

Ooh, I like this in today's NYT about wisdom: ...the Baltes group suggested in one paper that there might be an optimal age and that "the 'world record' in wisdom may be held by someone in his or her 60s."

Posted by: LTL-CA | May 5, 2007 10:55 PM | Report abuse

dr, you might get your wish for a demo. Need to find the right song, though.

Ha, Mudge, I was watching when they sang that "rocket in your pocket" line, and I snorted at it. Like you did, I imagine.

Little Feat's "Rocket in My Pocket" is might be right up your alley, Mudge. In a manner of speaking, I mean.


Posted by: bc | May 5, 2007 10:56 PM | Report abuse

>Little Feat's "Rocket in My Pocket" is might be right up your alley

I love Little Feat. I believe I posted most of "Willin" the other day.

Posted by: Error Flynn | May 5, 2007 11:29 PM | Report abuse

Hot Fuzz had its protagonist explain how police work depended on "unquestioned moral authority." Someone should make a transcript of that lecture.

I wasted the day on a local orchid show (ended up with several to glue to a laurel oak in the yard and others to plop into a shrubbery bed) and a backyard palm and plant sale run by a bunch of surfers, including a small local palm nursery.

The host's silver Bismarckia palm has grown quite a bit over the last year. It's now a short-trunked ball comprised of leaves that are partway between fan and feather-shaped, with the curve of the partial midrib giving it a complex geometry rather like something Santiago Calatrava would dream up. Or maybe the distinguished architect's seen a few Bismarckias. This mighty species is from Madagascar, and was presumably named for the Iron Chancellor during the German colonial period. I guess Otto deserves a palm named after him as much as George Washington (California fan palm), Copernicus (especially impressive ones in Cuba), or John Dransfield, a present-day Kew botanist.

Posted by: Dave of the Coonties | May 6, 2007 12:00 AM | Report abuse

EF, god bless Lowell George.

Posted by: bill everything | May 6, 2007 12:16 AM | Report abuse

On a completely different topic, I watched the Kentucky Derby today, and blogged on it here:

Yes, I wore an event-appropriate hat.


Posted by: bc | May 6, 2007 12:18 AM | Report abuse

That was beautiful bc, Oh my god I may not stop laughing till Tuesday.

I really do still love those Hats!!!

Posted by: greenwithenvy | May 6, 2007 12:53 AM | Report abuse

Some of us draftees in the last war could have told you how it would be. In fact, some did.

It'll get worse.

"And I saw when the Lamb opened one of the seals, and I heard, as it were the noise of thunder, one of the four beasts saying, Come and see.
"And I saw, and behold a white horse: and he that sat on him had a bow; and a crown was given unto him: and he went forth conquering, and to conquer.
"And when he had opened the second seal, I heard the second beast say, Come and see.
"And there went out another horse that was red: and power was given to him that sat thereon to take peace from the earth, and that they should kill one another: and there was given unto him a great sword.
"And when he had opened the third seal, I heard the third beast say, Come and see. And I beheld, and saw a black horse; and he that sat on him had a pair of scales in his hand.
"And I heard a voice in the midst of the four beasts say, A measure of wheat for a penny, and three measures of barley for a penny; and see thou hurt not the oil and the wine.
"And when he had opened the fourth seal, I heard the voice of the fourth beast say, Come and see.
"And I looked, and behold a pale horse: and his name that sat on him was Death, and Hell followed with him. And power was given unto them over the fourth part of the earth, to kill with sword, and with hunger, and with death, and with the beasts of the earth."

Who are these guys?

Posted by: Orbinalis | May 6, 2007 1:54 AM | Report abuse

"My friend hurled invective at Ron Paul whenever he came on the screen." He's our Kucinich," he said."
Apparently your friend either:
1) Does not believe in or respect our Constitution; 2) Is ignorant of Congressman Paul's dedication to the principals of our founding documents, and his faithful execution of his oath of office; or 3) Is a bleeding-heart socialist.
God Bless our Republic.

Posted by: John Q Citizen | May 6, 2007 1:56 AM | Report abuse

Hoy Hoy !!

Posted by: greenwithenvy | May 6, 2007 2:02 AM | Report abuse

this is just too random not to share.
a new way to make a little change in l.a. -,0,5175465.story?coll=la-home-headlines

Posted by: L.A. lurker | May 6, 2007 2:45 AM | Report abuse

sorry! this special earning opportunity is for houston residents. my bad.

Posted by: L.A. lurker | May 6, 2007 3:03 AM | Report abuse

p.s. and this is how i am without mohitos and mint julep,
in case you were wondering.

Posted by: L.A. lurker | May 6, 2007 3:11 AM | Report abuse

Kim, thanks for the update; After we met 'Mudge and MrsMudge, and as I was trying to find mo, a woman (likely with many tastings already under her belt) came up to me and said, "Are you pacing?" As that sounded nothing like "Boodle" and I look nothing like a pacing horse, I said no and she flitted off through the crowd.

There was some white noise, so it's possible she said:
"Are you casing?"
"Are you Casey?"
"Are you pasty?"
"Have you pastry?"
"Are you graceful?"

I AM pretty pasty, but whadda ya gonna do?

We did indeed have a wonderful time, but mo's got some 'splainin' to do -- MotherOfMo recognized me before she did!! *L*

A pic or two will follow soon.

*almost properly caffeinated waves*


Posted by: Scottynuke | May 6, 2007 6:00 AM | Report abuse

Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand as promised:


Posted by: Scottynuke | May 6, 2007 6:44 AM | Report abuse

Just a note before I head out, it is World Laughter Day today! Hope to meet as many of the locals as I can on the 8th.

Posted by: dmd | May 6, 2007 6:59 AM | Report abuse

Boy you people get up early!

Posted by: Error Flynn | May 6, 2007 7:04 AM | Report abuse

Great pic, but what is that on mo's shirt? Looks like some evil symbol. I bet you can't put that on a headstone in a veteran's cemetary.

Posted by: yellojkt | May 6, 2007 7:07 AM | Report abuse

Let the record show I was very restrained and did not mention NYC's American League baseball team yesterday.


Posted by: Scottynuke | May 6, 2007 7:13 AM | Report abuse

The GOP debate: 10 white male in dark suits competing for the title of Neanderthal of the Year.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 6, 2007 7:33 AM | Report abuse

Good morning, friends. Can't talk, out the door for Sunday school and service. Will check in (hopefully) when I get back.

God loves us so much more than we can imagine through Him that died for all, Jesus Christ. Peace.

Posted by: Cassandra S | May 6, 2007 8:34 AM | Report abuse

Good morning, everyone.

Cassandra, I hope you have a great day.

Scotty, thanks for posting the pic from yesterday, looks like everyone had a great time.

Call me a traditionalist, but I don't want to see these towers over the DC skyline:

The developers are defying the FAA with regards to air safety for flights around National Airport (sorry, it'll always National to me. Never understood why the Repubs insist on naming everything after their guys. I can only imagine what they'll name after GW Bush. Maybe if they ever get the Yucca mountain nuclear waste disposal site project restarted, that could be the "GW Bush Waste Site," known by the locals as "Arbusto Mountain.")

I'm not going to pursue this any further, wouldn't want to make extra work for any Boodlers out there.


Posted by: bc | May 6, 2007 9:10 AM | Report abuse

Thank you for your restraint, bc, that's a good thing on Sunday morning. (I do think your suggestion is a good one, however.)

BTW, mason jars for mint julips? No, no, no! Sterling silver tumblers with crushed ice are correct. But whatever...

Posted by: Slyness | May 6, 2007 9:36 AM | Report abuse

Mornin' all...

It's looking to be another fine day here in Ohio -- the sun is shining, the birds are singing and the ODOT road crews are napping peacefully in their extended-cab pickups while traffic backs up around them.

Today I hit the big "four-oh" (as in days of sobriety... the "other" big four-oh is still a few months away).

I got a bit of a chuckle out of Deborah Howell's piece today on the mixed blessings of allowing readers to comment on WaPo stories:

I don't have anything against Deborah, but as I was reading her column all I could think was "Slow day in Ombudsmanland, Captain Obvious?"

Anyway... I'm off to brave the crowds of weekend warriors at Home Depot and then a day of hanging kitchen cabinets.


Posted by: martooni | May 6, 2007 9:42 AM | Report abuse

Hey, Dave Barry's in the New York Times Book Review, writing about The Essential Guide to Email for Office and Home, by David Shipley and Will Schwalbe.

Sample passage:

...I did not grow up with e-mail and texting, but I have come to agree with him: electronic communication is superior to the old-fashioned paper kind. I do almost all of my communicating by e-mail. I've been known to e-mail people who were literally standing next to me, which I know sounds crazy, because at that distance I could easily call them on my cellphone. But I prefer e-mail, because it's such an effective way of getting information to somebody without running the risk of becoming involved in human conversation.

Husband and daughter are out of the house seeing Spiderman III so I have a second, in between preparing the turkey dinner they expect to be ready when they return...

Just wanted to share this in honor of World Laughter Day. The offspring, in her continuing quest to get her name added to the permanent No-Fly list, brought her pet millipede with her on the plane. The millipede eats lettuce so she put a bunch of lettuce and tomatoes in a tupperware container. Her report: the millipede was "disguised as a salad." Miraculously, it got through undetected. But, really: Yuck.

Posted by: kbertocci | May 6, 2007 10:49 AM | Report abuse

Uncle Scotty, tell us a story about pebble bed reactors. Please?

I see the TV show Stargate ("SG1") made no one's list. Sigh.

I'm always giving my impromptu lecture to booksellers who can't seem to get their SF section up & running & making lots of money for them. I tell them to read the addendum ("Honorable Mentions")in the back of Garner Dozois's yearly anthology(since 1984)Best Science Fiction of the Year, and order some or all of the novels listed there. Dozois garnered 15 Hugos for Best Editor. This one comes in at about 700 pages, plus summaries and news.

And the only other similar title is The Years Best SF, in its 11th or 12th year, by David Hartwell and Kathryn Cramer. This one's a bit smaller, usually about 550 pages.

A few years ago all the big chains came in and drove all the locally owned bookstores out of business. Now the chains are closed & boarded up. The local sellers are, of course, gone for good. A pox on the house of the chainstores.

Posted by: Jumper | May 6, 2007 10:56 AM | Report abuse

A brief howdy. Very busy weekend so far, all the tornadoes to the west of us and we hope it stays that way. Great Wine BPH picture, thank you Scotty. Way to go Martooni. Hope to check in later.

Posted by: Ivansmom | May 6, 2007 11:00 AM | Report abuse

bc said, "I can only imagine what they'll name after GW Bush."

Maybe one of those potholes that can never fixed (every city has one) and turns into a quagmire? Hahahaha.

Posted by: Yoki | May 6, 2007 11:27 AM | Report abuse

Well -- I just can't *stand* it any longer. . . . . Not only did the Detroit Red Wings win yesterday against the Sharks, but (BUT) the Detroit Pistons eviscerated "da Bulls" -- by 26 points, mind you! Please allow me to release a very heartfelt WOO-HOO to my teams! It's a long way to go before the respective championship titles are bestowed, but I am soooooo happy now for them.

As for the empty suits which the Republicans are offering up for presidential sacrifice, *yawn*. It has occurred to me that if Rudy Guiliani actually does come out of the nominating process as the nominee (be careful here -- I'll get bumped off the boodle unless I select my words right), what on earth are we to call Judy Nathan? First (um) . . . .oh, fill in the blank yourselves. You *know* what I mean (you do, honestly, you do).

Back to the beautiful day. Enjoy!

Posted by: firsttimeblogger | May 6, 2007 11:36 AM | Report abuse

#1 and I made a wee expedition to the fabulous Asian market yesterday, just for fun. I thought of Wilbrod when I saw the Thai basil, of Joel when passing a whole beef tenderloin (very cheap but wonderful quality), and bc when I stopped by the tank of crab, and 'Mudge when I picked up two boneless flats of beef short ribs, as I intend, over the next day or two, to produce a braised Bourguignon concoction.

#1 had a most wonderful time running about reading all the labels on the Japanese products and choosing some of her favourites from her sojourn there, so that alone was worth the trip.

Anyway, later when I was perusing the interweb comparing short rib recipes, I came across the following review on a very reputable site. I felt so sorry for this person!

"I made this for New Years. My friends thought it was outstanding, but my husband complained about the expense and that I didn't serve it with potatoes, but with noodles. It was good, but too time-consuming and elaborate if you are married to a jerk."

Posted by: Yoki | May 6, 2007 11:40 AM | Report abuse

Mrs. Mudge is quite lovely. Clearly, there is something about a boat.

Posted by: RD Padouk | May 6, 2007 12:11 PM | Report abuse

RD, if you ask me, all the women in Scotty's photo are far too good in every sense for the apes they're sitting with.

And I 'spect those apes would agree with me.

This, of course, is the same situation at a typical BPH.


Posted by: bc | May 6, 2007 12:34 PM | Report abuse

bc - Indeed. Where are my manners? All the ladies pictured are delightful. Heaven forbid that I should be thought to imply otherwise.

Posted by: RD Padouk | May 6, 2007 12:45 PM | Report abuse

Asian marinated short ribs should only be served with rice. That is my wife's iron-clad rule and I have no desire to contradict her.

firsttimeblogger: "Your Trophyness."

Posted by: yellojkt | May 6, 2007 12:45 PM | Report abuse

Yoki, ribs with noodles? Mashed potatoes, yes, Garlic mashed even better. Baked if you like. But noodles?

Posted by: Error Flynn | May 6, 2007 12:47 PM | Report abuse

Slyness, I'm a guy wearing a Minnie Pearl dress and hat to a Virtual Kentucky Derby, if I want to drink mint juleps out of mason jars, I'm going to. I should have mentioned that one of the ingredients for my juleps is, er, let's call it home-brewed whiskey. Kinda suits mason jars, don't you think?

Besides, I melted down all the silver into a big ol' 133rd Derby belt buckle.


Posted by: bc | May 6, 2007 12:52 PM | Report abuse

Sure, real Bourg can be served with freshly made, French-type egg noodles, or even fresh spaetzle. Polenta is better, and I like some parsley boiled potatoes, but noodles is a classic.

Posted by: Yoki | May 6, 2007 12:53 PM | Report abuse

Yoki, I cannot tell you what a pleasure it is to know that when you think of crabs you think of me.


Posted by: bc | May 6, 2007 12:54 PM | Report abuse

>Sure, real Bourg

Well yes, but I thought we were talking about rib eatin'.

Sorry, guess I'm on another page.

Posted by: Error Flynn | May 6, 2007 12:56 PM | Report abuse

Can't speak about the rib-species mentioned so far, but will say this:

brisket b-b-q -- vinegar and spices all sealed in a steel drum -- to be rotisserried on an open fire:

cole slaw, homemade
bisquits, homemade in Dutch oven on an open fire

Posted by: College Parkian | May 6, 2007 12:59 PM | Report abuse

Yoki -- on the way over to your house for eats, I'll swing by BC's for some of the many laws will I brake if I cross 13 state lines and one international border with Mason jars carrying liquid fireflies?!

Worth it for your beef-delight....I'll take any side you offer, even saltine crackers.

Posted by: College Parkian | May 6, 2007 1:02 PM | Report abuse

BBQ ribs should be dry rub only and not boiled. My wife has been on a quest for this for a long time in the DC area and has failed. Urban BBQ in Rockville comes close, but not quite.

We ate at Andy's BBQ in Cockeysville yesterday and I didn't hear any complaints about her ribs, so I assume they passed muster.

White lightning should only be served from mason jars and drunk from red plastic Dixie cups.

Posted by: yellojkt | May 6, 2007 1:12 PM | Report abuse

kb - ewwwww! But you know, I didn't see any TSA regulations against millipedes. Bottles of water, yes.

Great picture of the wine tasters - thanks. My husband and I may go on a similar expedition next weekend, to the Yakima Valley.

Posted by: mostlylurking | May 6, 2007 1:16 PM | Report abuse

This could be trouble. From Howell's column, about correcting the punctuation problems on article comments:
"Brady said the "ck" and punctuation mark problems will be resolved when a new system is installed next week."

Posted by: mostlylurking | May 6, 2007 1:26 PM | Report abuse

Asian short ribs-rice absolutely. Noodles, hmmm. If I had a sure fire crowd pleasing noodle dish that wasn't a main course on its own, perhaps.

BBQ ribs-slaw and beans. Potatoes of any description are too filling.

Personally, I'd just skip the ribs and make bulgogi. Easier to eat.

However, the true point is Yoki's. How sad to conclude one's spouse is too much of a jerk to bother with a challenging recipe.

Posted by: frostbitten | May 6, 2007 1:35 PM | Report abuse

>How sad to conclude one's spouse is too much of a jerk to bother with a challenging recipe.

Well it seems to me there was obviously some miscommunication re. the rib experience. Mrs. was looking forward to stretching out with a nice foody thing, and Mr. probably wanted nothing BUT a stack o' BBQ and pile o' mashed.

He shouldn't have complained about the cost though. Although I did once see a friend's wife spend $45 on some chips and salsa. It was only $10 for the chips but $35 for a new serving plate, so maybe we don't have the whole story.

Posted by: Error Flynn | May 6, 2007 1:41 PM | Report abuse

Saw a short note yesterday about the book "I'll Sleep When I'm Dead" - about Warren Zevon, which he requested his ex-wife to write. When I ordered it from the library, it said the foreword is by Carl Hiaasen.

From the NY Times:
"After learning he had terminal cancer, Warren Zevon called upon his estranged wife, Crystal, to take care of him. He also wanted her to take notes. "I'll Sleep When I'm Dead" is a no-holds-barred oral history that captures a lovable but wildly aberrant personality, draws upon a fascinating cast of characters and peers into the heart of the L.A. singer-songwriter community in its prime."

Posted by: mostlylurking | May 6, 2007 1:45 PM | Report abuse

Okay, so I've joined "Postpoints."

I'm such a good consumer.

Now if I could just earn points for posting here, (Postpostpoints) I'd have it made. As it is, I fear it may be some time before I earn that free trip to Fiji.

And I am afraid Weingarten is right. The "points" characters do look like little blue diaphragms.

Posted by: RD Padouk | May 6, 2007 2:09 PM | Report abuse

My derby selection record stands! I picked Dominican, Street Sense, and Hard spun in that order.

As expected, one came in next to dead last (beating out cowtown cat), and the other 2 ended up in the money. I'm thrilled because I picked the right order, too.

Looking at the jockeys had little or no value in this case. Boral won his first derby on Street Sense. I hadn't heard of him before, but that means nothing nowadays, I'm so clueless.

One horse I picked for the Belmon-- Curlin-- came in third in the Derby.

I will say one thing, what a race. This Derby reminded me of the duel between Alysheba and Bet Twice back in 1988, and I'm hoping to see similar excellence in the Preakness now.

Posted by: Wilbrod | May 6, 2007 2:17 PM | Report abuse

SCC: I misspoke. Dominican finished mid-pack, 11th. It was actually Stormello who came in next to dead last.
As I mentioned, the name appeared good, but I had my misgivings about him and would not select him.

Posted by: Wilbrod | May 6, 2007 2:21 PM | Report abuse

This talk of mason jars reminds me of the wine my grandfather user to make. He would purchase zin and muscat grapes, stomp them while wearing sterilized boots, and ferment the resulting juice and skins in a large wooden barrel. When the stuff had reached about 26 proof he would put the barrel in a cool room to stop the fermentation, and then draw the wine off each day as needed.

This "daily draw" was stored, of course, in a mason jar.

Posted by: RD Padouk | May 6, 2007 2:23 PM | Report abuse


I saw the Zevon book at BigBoxOfBooks Friday night and made a mental note to reserve it at the library. It hasn't made the HCPL database yet, so I'm out of luck for awhile. The EW review said the oral history bon mots are just hilarious even if Warren's life was tragic.

Posted by: yellojkt | May 6, 2007 2:34 PM | Report abuse

yellow -- um, not quite exactly what I was thinking of, but I supposed it will do (it's much friendlier, but, well, you know. . . ).

Posted by: firsttimeblogger | May 6, 2007 2:43 PM | Report abuse

I've been doing mulch all weekend. I don't care what they say. It's a lot more potent than in my youth.

Posted by: RD Padouk | May 6, 2007 3:19 PM | Report abuse

And yes, Zevon's early death was undeniably tragic. But for now until the fall of western civilization, there will be millions of people who understand why it is important to enjoy every sandwich.

That's not too shabby of a legacy.

Posted by: RD Padouk | May 6, 2007 3:22 PM | Report abuse

>I don't care what they say. It's a lot more potent than in my youth.

Yeah well, we've all heard about that govt mulch!

Posted by: Error Flynn | May 6, 2007 3:33 PM | Report abuse

The Zevon book is going to be the subject of a panel at the Miami Books & Books I was raving about recently--panel members include Carl Hiaasen AND Dave Barry.

See what I mean about the newsletter being a continual source of frustration! Even if I was free the day of the event, the rules are designed to favor the locals heavily; for the high demand events like this one, you have to pick up a ticket at the bookstore ahead of time. Not practical for me. But still, it's nice to know it's happening.

mostlylurking, of course there's no rule about it--who would think to make a rule about that? But when they are "leafing" through the salad (sorry) and that 10-inch millipede crawls up the security person's arm, I imagine the committee will be taking action soon afterwards and it will be known in insider circles as the "Artist Alice rule."

Posted by: kbertocci | May 6, 2007 3:35 PM | Report abuse

I'm guessing Artist Alice plans a book after she finally gets banned, called "Artist Alice Doesn't Fly Here Anymore"?

Posted by: Wilbrod | May 6, 2007 3:46 PM | Report abuse


This ape certainly agrees with you. :-)

And frankly, putting Arbusto's name on Yucca Mountain would find plenty of support in many quarters, for many reasons...

As for Jumper:

Once upon a time a man made bunch of pebbles. He said to himself, "I wonder what would happen if I put them all together in a big pot with a lot of helium, hooked the pot up to a turbine/generator set with some pipes and closed everything up reeeeeeeel tight?"

He did, the pebbles began to glow brightly, and the man never wanted for electricity again. The end.

*anxiously awaiting a review from the many sides of Tim*


Posted by: Scottynuke | May 6, 2007 5:23 PM | Report abuse

Scottynuke - that was a most inspiring tale.

And after enduring yet another National's game, I needed something to inspire me.

Posted by: RD Padouk | May 6, 2007 5:50 PM | Report abuse

Howdy y'all. Thank you for that fine story, Scottynuke. I wish the pebble pot man would come to my house, as we've had to turn on the air conditioning ridiculously early this year. At least the tornadoes missed us this weekend, so far. Here in the heart of Dangerous Weather Land we have excellent TV meteorologists, who can usually tell us when a storm will hit a particular area and what streets it will go down. The radar is mesmerizing.

I'm finally sitting down. The apples are peeled (apple cake? apple pie?), the chicken is in the oven, the vinho verde is poured, partly into me. I got out the push mower yesterday and today and mowed the side yard, the back yard, and as much of the dog yard as I could stand. The dog yard is difficult because (a) the grass is long, (b) it is naturally a hillside, and (c) the bast- I mean darlings have dug many holes and trenches to trap the unwary. I am no longer unwary, as I broke an ankle in there once a couple of years back. Ivansdad, who is ill, had sternly warned me against trying to mow in the dog yard, as it is so difficult. Like waving a red flag to a bull. I am now enjoying the rest of the virtuous. In other activities, we went to see an excellent musical produced locally on Friday, the Boy attended a birthday party, and there were two rehearsals for the actors and a grocery store trip for me. I want to go to the office and rest.

Posted by: Ivansmom | May 6, 2007 6:10 PM | Report abuse

Ivansmom - Thank God It's Monday is a frequent mantra around my house as well.

Posted by: RD Padouk | May 6, 2007 6:23 PM | Report abuse

Just returned from our wonderful weekend in Wilmington NC. A rather nice, uneventful drive up I-95 (with a 20-mile roundtrip detour to visit my husband's favorite NC fast food restaurant, Biscuitville).

When I once again became the driver of a minivan last fall, I was forced to get the DVD player as part of the navigation system package. Haven't really used it up to now, but I spent a good part of this afternoon riding in the back with my son watching every 30 Rock episode. Nice way to pass the time on the road.

It would normally take us about 3 or 4 days to reach Wilmington, the way we usually travel. It's been a long time since we drove this many miles in one day (one weekend!). We can easily spend 7 or 9 hours on the road, but only really travel about 150 miles from point to point.

About the Warren Zevon book: it must be nice to have the kind of relationship with your "estranged" wife to be able to count on her to write your biography when you're gone. Nice.

Posted by: TBG | May 6, 2007 6:26 PM | Report abuse

I just wanted to point out that if there are any extraterrestrial creatures waiting to vaporize the planet, now is probably as good a time as any.

I mean, I just finished the last bag of mulch. This is probably the best the yard will look all year.

Posted by: RD Padouk | May 6, 2007 6:57 PM | Report abuse

Maybe a scythe would work, Ivansmom?

A neighbor here apparently just puts down straw in her dog yard, and then replaces straw when it's dirty.
Result: zero grass in the dog yard; it's all dirt. Mind you, it's not a very big yard.
Since straw mulches well, it can also be useful to scatter over where you know the dips and pits are (water down after).

I've never met a dog that actually LIKED digging in straw as much as dirt, so who knows?

Posted by: Wilbrod | May 6, 2007 7:02 PM | Report abuse

TBG, musician exes tend to be like that. Can't stand to actually live with them, but can't avoid continuing to rescue them from bad managers, crazed stalkerfans, the IRS or cancer. Kind of like a semi-wild pet that you set free, knowing it will come back for vet care or rescue or a safe place to rest before it chases fame, tail or the muse again.

Not that I would have *any* experience at that. Really.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 6, 2007 7:03 PM | Report abuse

SCC: the 7:03 was me (sorry!)

Posted by: sevenswans | May 6, 2007 7:06 PM | Report abuse

Perhaps Artist Alice's book could be called 'Thoroughly Modern Millipede'.

Posted by: yellojkt | May 6, 2007 7:10 PM | Report abuse

Hello Sevenswans
I listened to your songs, they were great!
Thanks for the link.

Yes, I have been known to take in a stray pet or two, or help that turtle or snake across the road.

Posted by: greenwithenvy | May 6, 2007 7:15 PM | Report abuse

Thank you greenwithenvy! Glad you liked them.

I stop for snakes, and then get out and escort them firmly off the road and back into the woods. They do *not* appreciate this (black snakes especially have major attitude), but I refuse to let them bask until they're hit.

Posted by: sevenswans | May 6, 2007 7:29 PM | Report abuse


My favorite scene in a Pee Wee Herman movie (the first one, I think) is when he rescues the animals in the burning pet store. He goes by the snakes a few times, then finally gets them out, but with much disgust. Of course, I'm barely able to watch this, since I am majorly afraid of snakes, even on film or in still pictures. My problem - but still, ewwww!

Posted by: mostlylurking | May 6, 2007 7:42 PM | Report abuse

Sorry, mostlylurking! Turtles and frogs are much easier to love, but I have to admit I adore snakes, too. Not in the house, though.

Posted by: sevenswans | May 6, 2007 8:02 PM | Report abuse

Tired after a day working down at the vacation cottage, putting more grout on the bathroom tile. Yuck. Hate that job, and I'm no good at it.

Managed (just barely) to catch up on the boodle. bc and padouk, your 12:11 and 12:34 were entirely correct.

New episode of the Sopranos coming on in a minute. Any takers on who gets whacked? I'm predicting at least one more candidate for Johnny Sack's job, plus one of the regulars. Let's see...for shock value, I'm thinking Stevie Van Zandt/Sil. And I don't think Christopher makes it to the end of the series alive. Anybody else got any ideas?

Posted by: Curmudgeon | May 6, 2007 9:01 PM | Report abuse

I must post this for RD. There is a rabbit lurking at the end of our driveway. Wild, of course. I find it difficult to believe that he's eating the gravel or mud. He's been there half an hour. I know he has confederates in the field outside the fence. I'm a little alarmed. He's watching the house.

Posted by: Ivansmom | May 6, 2007 9:11 PM | Report abuse

I agree with you, mostly. Snakes are a major ewwww to me as well. I hate it when they startled me. Sometimes the dogs are in front of house and the snake is in the back yard. So when we bumped into each other we run in opposite directions. From my experience with the snakes around here, except for the cobra, other types of snakes won't challenge you. I am always afraid that one day I might find one inside my car. A snake moulted in the engine compartment of my car.

Posted by: rain forest | May 6, 2007 9:14 PM | Report abuse

Right, RD.

Now that I'm done the laundry and taken the trash out, it's time for the aliens to vaporize the Earth.

Geez, if you knew the Earth were ending tonight, what would you do? What wouldn't you do?

Me, I'm thinking homemade fried chicken and chicken gravy.


Posted by: bc | May 6, 2007 9:16 PM | Report abuse

Ivansmom - that probably explains all the internet chatter. Just keep an eye out on your vulnerable veggies.

Where are Wallace and Gromit when you need them?

bc - Cheeseburgers and strawberry shortcake are the two foods that my body has never been able to max out on before my brain stepped in first.

That and honey roasted peanuts. But that has more to do with chemical dependency than gluttony.

Posted by: RD Padouk | May 6, 2007 9:28 PM | Report abuse

Ha, bc! I'd turn off my work cell phone, even though I'm on call this week. I wouldn't do the dishes. I'd put on some music and turn it up loud, hug my family and friends. Probably try to read one more book...

Posted by: mostlylurking | May 6, 2007 9:28 PM | Report abuse

I'm sort of working through my thoughts here.

I really like bats, and snakes.

When I first approached being a big girl, (about 8 years old) I was left with my cousin George (about 3) and my and his Grandmother (about 62). We went to the cottage on The Bay of Quinte, and found bats in the attic and snakes under the cottage. I thought I couldn't bear snakes, until I saw a very large and thickly-girthed water-snake snake into the water. Little George cried, very hard, because he'd missed the beauty of the snake snaking into the water when he'd been put down for his child-nap.

His disappointment at not seeing the very big snake, when he was innocent, taught me to appreciate the snakes.

All of nature is wonderful and beautiful. I have since then spent days with adolescent black bears in my back-yard, coyotes on my road, deer in my garden, wolves coming up the river bank, and foxes and fishers hanging over my head. I take my dogs out to alert me to being stupid, but every day I feel honored to have lived a life in which I can be killed by a wild animal. Keeps me on my toes. And knowing that the natural world is not far from mine. This is a gift, and a blessing.

Posted by: Yoki | May 6, 2007 9:39 PM | Report abuse

Oh, and I forgot:

I'd stop wearing clothes.


Posted by: bc | May 6, 2007 9:40 PM | Report abuse

I'd eat a big piece of chocolate cheese cake and play my favourite classical music CD.

Posted by: rain forest | May 6, 2007 9:41 PM | Report abuse

Hmmmm, dunno what I'd want to fix to eat. Spaghetti, probably. That's my major sin. I do make an acceptable meat sauce. I'd make phone calls to people who are important to me. Then, pick up a book, probably Jane Austen.

I forgot the camera, darn it, or I'd post a picture of the mulch on the bank behind the mountain house. It's kinda difficult to get it to stay in place on a steep incline. You have to start at the bottom and build the layer up. It does look nice. Now if the weather will ever cooperate, we'll have a fine time.

Got home to find that elder child has moved (most of) her stuff to the condo, enough that she is sleeping there tonight. Yay! Another launch! Now I have to finish peeling the wallpaper in her bathroom, so we can paint. How did I ever have time to work?

Keep safe, Ivansmom. Spring is a tough time on the plains.

bc, I would love to hear your take on the similarities and differences between NASCAR and the Triple Crown races.

Posted by: Slyness | May 6, 2007 9:43 PM | Report abuse

I like snakes. Also bats. I must disagree with the laudable sentiment that all nature is wonderful and beautiful. I wish I could agree, but I just have no use for wasps, nor any wonder. I'll agree to their beauty, though.

I'm still worried about those rabbits.

Vaya con queso, all. Fondue.

Posted by: Ivansmom | May 6, 2007 9:47 PM | Report abuse

bc, ewwwwwe! Gross! Please keep your clothing on.

Posted by: Yoki | May 6, 2007 9:49 PM | Report abuse

OK, I agree with Ivansmom about the wasps. Very frightening. Very. I just try to stay out of their way. I guess I might be JainPatricia (ducking!)

Posted by: Yoki | May 6, 2007 9:53 PM | Report abuse

Vaya con queso, Ivansmom. Fondue.

Posted by: oki | May 6, 2007 9:56 PM | Report abuse

I have two Jain students this semester. One asked me about Good Friday ashes on my forehead. Two high points in the conversation:

Oh, I am sorry for you that it is a sad festival day for you. But I am glad that no one in your family died this week, since the ashes can be for funerals.


Oh, I have heard about Catholics. Your Saint San Francisco was very much like a Jain, in that he did not step on insects and that he hosted the birds on his shoulders.

I am very luck to meet so many pilgrims....
Yoki -- in the high country long ago and far away, one brother (5 or so) kept poking a huge timber rattler. My father managed to shoot the snake...without hitting us. Now that my dad is aging and wont to fish in remote areas without telling us where he is...well, I think on the possibilities and think, not so bad, as death can go.

Bunnies in my yard, too. Very close to peonies about to bloom and hidden under a very old and clamberous rose. Little doggie warns them, but they in their lapidary lair ignore this.

Posted by: College Parkian | May 6, 2007 10:06 PM | Report abuse

CP, you understand! "I do love you so," said Piglet. "So do I," said Pooh, to Piglet.

I am sending you an offline message. Think about it.

Posted by: Yoki | May 6, 2007 10:18 PM | Report abuse

Please remember we have Canadians on this boodle, BC. They have no concept of nudism except very briefly as necessary, say after saunas. All of this is for very good reasons to do with minus zero temperatures.

But you might not know of this ancient, superstitious Canuckstani belief inherited from the natives (who love a good leg-pulling), that anybody who runs around even partially naked during the aurora borealis will wind up with skin as green as a martian-- or as other sources claim, "the color of green pease porridge."
Worse...the green hues move on the skin.

So... no offense, but triple eeew, bc.

The last thing people need to see right before immiment death is a sickly green Captain Picard knock-off running around in the nude like he's the Fisher King.

Posted by: Wilbrod | May 6, 2007 10:21 PM | Report abuse

Oh Wilbrod, this is very very very funny. G'bles you.

Posted by: Yoki | May 6, 2007 10:23 PM | Report abuse

I saw my first Timber rattlesnake about 2 years ago and have seen about 10 since then. They are so cool looking and they get pretty big. The last one I saw had just eaten something, so he wasn't going anywhere for a while.

Posted by: greenwithenvy | May 6, 2007 10:23 PM | Report abuse

End of the world? Easy. I wouldn't do the dishes.

Posted by: TBG | May 6, 2007 10:24 PM | Report abuse

Of course, we could bask naked in the aurora borialis, and then slather on the UVH screen.

Posted by: Yoki | May 6, 2007 10:25 PM | Report abuse

We don't like nudity, would some one please fill me in on the memos I keep missing them?

As for sunscreen we quite truly have a shelf full, minimum 30 max 50 spf, pasty white people that bath in the stuff!

Posted by: dmd | May 6, 2007 10:32 PM | Report abuse

Hah! dmd is a funny person. I am quite envious, as ya'all in DC will meet her.

Posted by: Yoki | May 6, 2007 10:34 PM | Report abuse

I think I would go for a bicycle ride -- with no helmet!

Scotty, I know nothing about hot pebble reactors, which I have only heard of, today, from you guys. I suppose I could trouble myself to learn something about them...

Posted by: ScienceTim | May 6, 2007 10:38 PM | Report abuse


I kind of like that color of green myself, so much so I painted my house that color. But the community I live in didn't like it. I told them I was colorblind which is true. But I just wanted to see if I could spot my house from the overlook or a passing plane.

I am thinking purple next, that would really P*** them off.

Posted by: greenwithenvy | May 6, 2007 10:42 PM | Report abuse

The biggest rattler I ever "saw" was on the Skyline Drive, not far from Front Royal. My husband and I were walking back to a parking lot, on a fairly narrow trail, when we heard a really loud buzzing noise. Two park rangers were coming toward us on the trail holding a large rattlesnake - they had found it in the parking lot and were relocating it. I didn't actually see it - I got off the trail and cowered so they could get by.

My sister says that when I was a baby, a copperhead crawled over my toe and that's why I'm so scared of snakes. My mom was nearby and snatched me away, but I'm sure she was petrified. Copperheads don't back down, either (at least, I read that in Annie Dillard's book, Pilgrim at Tinker Creek).

I've told this before on the boodle, but a few years ago my sister took me to a "relict prairie" in PA - beautiful wildflowers and woods. She was concerned because it was also home to pygmy rattlesnakes, but she was assured that they were very shy and hardly ever seen. Guess what we saw, basking on a trail - yep. I teased her for years about the time she took me to see snakes.

Posted by: mostlylurking | May 6, 2007 10:48 PM | Report abuse

I think "rain forest" has dibs on scariest snake. I can't imagine seeing a real cobra out in my back yard.

>Geez, if you knew the Earth were ending tonight, what would you do? What wouldn't you do?

Make three Pan Galactic Gargle Blasters and sit on the patio watching the sky.

Posted by: Error Flynn | May 6, 2007 10:55 PM | Report abuse

All this talk about scary snakes...I'm getting an idea for a blockbuster movie...

I'm getting a little worried about ivansmom and her family. Anybody besides me think maybe we oughta send a squad car to drive past her house and make sure everything's OK? There's been a strange lagomorph loitering around all evening, and according to a news article I just read, lagomorph home invasions are on the increase, especially in the midwest.

Posted by: Curmudgeon | May 6, 2007 11:00 PM | Report abuse

Such snake stories, and Back East, even! Well, I should say.

EF -- are the PGGBs over the moon drinks?

I think I would be the same, do the same, if the world was ending. It is the key plot opener for Hitchhiker's Guide....loved the dolphin number in the latest film version.

DOH. NOT GRADE PAPERs! But, I do not have that duty this evening.

Today was pleasant: in DC we had those treetop rivers of wind running through. I transplanted little seedlings -- nigella (love in a mist), centauras (cornflower), cosmos (seashells and sensation and picotee).

Too cold for zinnia (magenta, shocking purple, green envy) and sunflowers (lemony, limey ones)....

Posted by: College Parkian | May 6, 2007 11:05 PM | Report abuse

>EF -- are the PGGBs over the moon drinks?

I dunno, I just remember some rule about never drinking more than two of them. I figure if it's the end of the world you might as well go for it.

Posted by: Error Flynn | May 6, 2007 11:07 PM | Report abuse

I'd make an elegant dinner for my friends/family, and then go lie down on the short-gress prairie. Look at the stars wheeling overhead. Beautiful.

Posted by: Yoki | May 6, 2007 11:08 PM | Report abuse

My new blog, devoted to stories of people not suing, is up. One good thing about devoting time to such a rarity, it doesn't take much time. Check it out at:

Posted by: frostbitten | May 6, 2007 11:09 PM | Report abuse


Posted by: frostbitten | May 6, 2007 11:12 PM | Report abuse

Frosti -- tried to comment and not allowed I will say it here: good idea; I wonder what we will discover in the stories of the "notsuing" types.

G'Nite. Monday beckons and I want some more Sunday, preferably prone.

Posted by: College Parkian | May 6, 2007 11:15 PM | Report abuse

"The last thing people need to see right before immiment death is a sickly green Captain Picard knock-off running around in the nude like he's the Fisher King."

Ha. That isn't the last thing they'd see, Wilbrod.

I have *way* more hair than Patrick Stewart. Plus, I'm taller.

So you don't want to see me Naked at the End of the World? [bc puts his nose (ha, originally misspelled "nose" with a letter directly on top and to the left of it) in the air and sniffs haughtily] Fine, your loss. Hmph. Go and spend eternity rueing what you missed.

Slyness, that's an interesting idea, the similarities and differences between NASCAR and the Triple Crown. One similarity: your typical modern NASCAR driver isn't much bigger than a jockey.

Hmmm. Might have to write something about that; that's a good idea.

Also, in the Delayed Thanks department, greenwithenvy suggested writing something about the Kentucky Derby. I just picked it up and ran with it (unfortunately, I ran towards my own goal).


Posted by: bc | May 6, 2007 11:17 PM | Report abuse

CP-thanks for the alert. I changed the settings to allow anyone to comment.

Posted by: frostbitten | May 6, 2007 11:23 PM | Report abuse

One of the snakier places in the US is western Oregon, where vast numbers of garter snakes make their livings in and around the forest. Truly amazing that they can find enough solar heat to keep operating.

Here in suburban Florida, it's glass lizards (real lizards, but without legs) and black racers. There's a racer in every yard, but it'll be so secretive that the usual homeowner will not realize it's there.

Posted by: Dave of the Coonties | May 6, 2007 11:25 PM | Report abuse

Frosti... nice blog! You have an extra : in your URL for the top story (before the www) that renders the link useless.

See? Now you know how Joel feels when we "fix" his Kit for him!


Posted by: TBG | May 6, 2007 11:29 PM | Report abuse

Speaking of getting naked:

I sure hope the world isn't coming to an end - I did the dishes already.

Posted by: mostlylurking | May 7, 2007 12:20 AM | Report abuse

Wow - I just caught up on 1-1/2 days worth! Good thing it was a slow weekend.

Did anyone see this priceless picture of the queen with Cheney?

Frosti - like your blog. I tried comments too, after you said you were fixing it, but it wouldn't work with choosing "Wheezy." Probably should have tried anonymous.

If I knew the world was coming to an end I'd probably run around screaming and crying. Or grab my towel.

Posted by: Wheezy | May 7, 2007 12:46 AM | Report abuse

True. You do have head fur, Bc. That's okay then.

Go forth naked, as long as you never forget your beach towel for the apocalypse. Just don't do it in Canada. They'll be watching out for you now.

Posted by: Wilbrod | May 7, 2007 1:00 AM | Report abuse

Morning all! *almost-caffeinated waves*


I try very hard to avoid going nekkid anywhere. It's tough enough debunking the Sasquatch myth as it is...

Posted by: Scottynuke | May 7, 2007 4:37 AM | Report abuse

Good morning, friends. Morning, Scotty, love the picture.

Did not have a chance to get back yesterday, busy cleaning. We have inspections this week, so I wanted to get a headstart on the job. Plus, I have to get the results of my test from last week, and I'm still doing what I do.

The time is winding down for the test for the kids. We have much work to do, and so little time. Of course, one cannot squeeze a year's course study into a few days, but that doesn't stop folks from trying.

Ivansmom, I hope the weather is better in your area, please stay safe, and anyone else in that vicinity.

Slyness, the county I live in is a tier-one county, meaning it is poor, very poor. It's probably all government can do to provide for any problem. And I suspect they're trying to cover as many bases as possible with the little resources they have. Let us just say that government takes the money and do what this person wants, and something else goes lacking. Somebody would still complain. And if schools and health care issues weren't addressed, riots would take place. Mayors, county commissioners, and other government employees, I don't envy these folks with those jobs. Everybody wants something, and they think that want is the most important. We just don't have jobs here, and that has been the case since the flight of textile and manufacturing jobs in the eighties. And those jobs have not been replaced, and I suspect part of the reason for that is that we've shipped everything across the water. Cheap labor for some is like drugs to a dope addict. They can't get enough. And one has to be able to redefine, but that takes time and much work. Many of the young people here work at CNA jobs. That job requires them to take care of the sick and the old. I suspect that gives you a clear picture of what we're dealing with here. Our best natural resource leaves, our young people, and we deal with what is left.

Have a great day, folks. I do hope your weekend was great, and not too much work. I know some of you will say in your heart, thank God I'm back to work, maybe I can get some rest. I'm not trying to get anyone in trouble, and I'm saying this with a big old smile.

Morning, Mudge, Slyness, Martooni, and all.*waving*. Martooni, I am so happy for you. You have no idea. I thank God through Christ. Kbert, that turkey sounded so good. I hope your family enjoyed it.

God loves us so much more than we can imagine through Him that died for all, Jesus Christ. Peace.

Posted by: Cassandra S | May 7, 2007 6:33 AM | Report abuse

'Morning, boodle. I commend to your attention yesterday's Opus, about Starbucks opening a store in his bedroom, and Doonesbury, about a room lit by tiny blinking standby lights on various electronics. (Who needs that ol' Weingarten column anyway? OK, I do. But I mean besides me.)

Just as an exercise in self-abasement, I tried to read the Novak column about how Fred Thompson failed to meet his expectations, and got about three grafs into it before I shook my head and bailed out. Somebody please tell me why Conservatives always seem to think both their party and their nation somehow obviously belong to them, as if by right of kings, or something. (That IS an accurate observation, isn't it? Or is it just me who sees that?)

'Morning, Cassandra.

Posted by: Curmudgeon | May 7, 2007 6:41 AM | Report abuse

Morning, everybody! Hey, Cassandra.

You read Novak, Mudge? That's more than my brain can handle, especially first thing in the morning. I loved the Doonesbury; sent the link to the computer science major in the family.

As usual, Cassandra, you have accurately defined the problem. I wish I could help with jobs for the young adults.

Posted by: Slyness | May 7, 2007 7:13 AM | Report abuse

Kim Novak did a newspaper column? What??


Posted by: Scottynuke | May 7, 2007 7:35 AM | Report abuse

Good morning, all.

It's Monday AM, and I have an appointment before work, so I'm actually Boodling clothed for once.

Anyway, thanks for pointing out those comics, Mudge.

I started writing a long response to Cassandra's question/comment about jobs in her area (and by extension, much of rural America), but decided to delete it.

With the evolution of high-speed, high-density communications tools over the past century and a half, human society (as a whole) can communciate and change faster than ever. As a result, business and money and people and can go almost anywhere and do almost anything at astonishing speeds.

As a result, people and businesses have become more independent of commuinities. In fact, one could make a case that services that once were provided by a family or community are now business transactions - elder care being an example.

People have lower expectations of where they grew up, and communities as a whole. A nice community is seen as a luxury these days, something for people with means and time. The folks that have to work hard for a living have to put everything they have into making ends meet, and may not have the time or energy or the experience to provide leadership for a community.

Cassandra, you are an exceptional person in this area, worthy of admiration, appreciation, and emulation.

I'm sorely tempted to propose that there be a Cassandra Appreciation Day soon. Maybe today.


Posted by: bc | May 7, 2007 8:16 AM | Report abuse

First some housekeeping-

TBG-Fixed that link on NOT Suing, thanks for calling it to my attention.

Wheezy-you should be able to comment as Wheezy if you choose "other" from the Google, Other, and Anonymous, ID buttons. However, I've seen on other blogs that the button sometimes defaults back to Google while I'm typing a comment. Perhaps that's what happened to you.

Good morning all. Gray skies here and I do hope they bring rain. We had a very windy weekend with intermittent power and cable TV/Internet outages, but still not much rain. We really need it. An 8,000 acre fire in the Boundary Waters Canoe Area was only about 5% contained yesterday.

Posted by: frostbitten | May 7, 2007 8:26 AM | Report abuse

Morning all! I missed you over the weekend, but my time was devoted to writing an email about the Blatantly Stupid issue in my neighborhood, emailing it to any neighbors foolish enough to give me their address, and distributing hard copies to the rest. That and planing two flats of vegetables and annuals.

bc, a most excellent description of the Derby. Pleasepleaseplease bring the hat to the BPH? If you're making the juleps with homebrewed whiskey, it's good that you contain it in a mason jar. It would have eaten the finish off the silver.

My method of picking Derby winners (a combination of the shape of the horse's rump and who the jockey is) pretty much failed me. I picked Curlin, Tiago, and Cowtown Cat. Maybe I should change to the shape of the jockey's rump instead.

Posted by: Raysmom | May 7, 2007 8:41 AM | Report abuse

'Morning, all. I'm not beyond being busy enough to lose a day, and looking at the date for the kit, thought I lost a whole weekend. My cousin is still on the respirator and is progressing enough that he may be able to free breathe in the next few days. The diagnosis was acute respiratory distress syndrome. To bide time, we went to a number of stores looking for a funky '60's table for our soon to be converted family room, but didn't find one. So we went fabric shopping. The fabric we wanted was sold out, without hope that it would be replenished as we were at a remnant outlet. That killed Saturday. Sunday was spent doing yard work. Hooya Monday!
I hope that Kim Novak's column has a picture of he from one of her famous movies.

Posted by: jack | May 7, 2007 8:43 AM | Report abuse

bc, your observations about expectations and leadership in rural communities are spot on.

A Cassandra Appreciation Day is a much better idea than Rubber Band Day, which is coming up on the 17th. I dare say a Cassandra Appreciation Day is much better than most of those days on the card sellers' calendars.

Posted by: frostbitten | May 7, 2007 8:47 AM | Report abuse

Slyness, good question you posed on the similarities/differences between NASCAR and the Triple Crown.

- Both pay gobs of money to the winner.
- The first race has a field full of wannabes.
- Fans tend to wear hats, though of different types. (bc, I dare you to wear your Minnie Pearl to a NASCAR event).
- The pre-event parties tend to be more fun than the event itself.

- Triple Crown fans do not wear T-shirts with the image of their favorite.
- Betting on NASCAR is not officially sanctioned.
- Fans don't boo their favorite's rival on introduction.
- In horse racing, the real race is not preceded by 3 hours of parading around the track.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 7, 2007 8:51 AM | Report abuse

Will somebody please fax me the memo on global warming? We obviously didn't get it around here, it was 42 degrees when I started out on my walk. I washed and put the winter clothes away last week! Sheesh!

That aside, it should be a nice, if cool, day in the Carolinas.

Posted by: Slyness | May 7, 2007 8:53 AM | Report abuse

42 degrees=flip flop weather

Posted by: frostbitten | May 7, 2007 9:23 AM | Report abuse

Dave of the Coonties - I liked your comment about Western Oregon and the Garter snakes. Western Washington State, where I grew up, was a wonderland of Garter snakes as well. We had a rock retaining wall in our back yard, which was home to hundreds of the little guys in a variety of colors - including the highly prized "red racer" and the occasional albino.

All harmless, of course, if occasionally a bit smelly.

Posted by: RD Padouk | May 7, 2007 9:23 AM | Report abuse

As if soldiers didn't have enough to worry about. An AP story about parents losing custody of their children while deployed.

Posted by: frostbitten | May 7, 2007 9:34 AM | Report abuse

It was right nippy here in Your Nation's Capital last night, too, Slyness. Oh, and to answer your question, I actually don't read Novak about 95 percent of the time. I may on occasion read the teaser sentence perhaps 30 percent of the time, and then decline. But yes, once every fiscal quarter or so, unable to restrain myself from the grip of lunar madness, I sometimes glance at one of his columns, kind of the way people slow down to look at car wrecks. I'm not proud of it. And as I said, I got three grafs in, and bailed. I will on occasion read an entire Goierge Will column, and once in a blue moon William Safire. I regard this pretty much as enemy reconnaissance, that's all. I hope you don't regard it as a (serious) character flaw. (Although perhaps it is.)

More similarities/differences between NASCAR and the Triple Crown.

--Both go counterclockwise, and only turn left.
--In both events, it's OK if you "throw like a girl."
--I'm happy to watch the Food Network during either event.

--They don't plaster the horse's a$$ with sponsor decals.
--TC has Hispanic jockies. NASCAR has Taco Bell.
--TC is over in a couple of minutes. NASCAR races last for 12 days and feature 10,000 laps, 85% under the yellow caution flag.
--In TC, the horses often have two first names (Billy Clyde). In NASCAR the drivers often have two first names (Billy Clyde).
--In TC, they celebrate the winner with a nice glass of bubbly. In NASCAR, they throw beer cans on the track at Jeff Gordon.
--You can nuzzle a horse and feed him/her a carrot or an apple. In NASCAR, you can nuzzle its restrictor plate.
--In horseracing, winners are put out to stud only AFTER a successful career.

Posted by: Curmudgeon | May 7, 2007 9:36 AM | Report abuse

SCC: Goierge? Jeez. I may need to see a neurologist.

Posted by: Curmudgeon | May 7, 2007 9:39 AM | Report abuse

Mudge, you read George Will, even occasionally? I don't have the brain cells to waste on trying to comprehend and/or remain calm reading him. Just.Can't.Do.Will.

Safire is great on language issues but I don't read NYT anyway.

Like your exposition on NASCAR and the Triple Crown, especially the last difference. LOL.

Posted by: Slyness | May 7, 2007 9:44 AM | Report abuse

Mudge > I'm happy to watch the Food Network during either event.
Made me laugh. For me it would be watching History channel.

Wheezy - thanks for that priceless you posted last night. I burst out laughing. Sometimes, to spout a cliche, a picture really is worth a thousand words.

Mudge - hopefully you never even start a column by Thomas Sowell. He is run in our local paper here in Hampton Roads. You have never read such unbelievable drivel in your life. He makes Novak look like the soul of moderation and unbiased analysis. My husband always asks me why I persist in reading him when he makes me sputter!

Btw, glad you all had a good time at the wine festival. To make it up to me for not being able to go, we're going to go see the Subdudes in Norfolk this Friday. Are any boodlers fans of them? They're great.

Jack - I'm glad to hear your relative is doing better. ARDS is a terrible business. It will be a long road, but if he's done well so far, that's good news. I'll keep him in my prayers.

I'm all for a Cassandra Appreciation Day. I've said it before and I mean it...she is an inspiration to me. I'll make the cupcakes!

Posted by: Kim | May 7, 2007 9:48 AM | Report abuse

And more...

- The Thoroughbred Racing Association doesn't decide decide that, to keep the racing interesting, Clydesdales instead of Thoroughbreds should be run.
- The cry at the start of the race is "And they're off!" vs. "Boogity, boogity, boogity" (had to try three times before my rebellious fingers would even type that one).
- The TC victory awards are tasteful wreaths of flowers vs. guitars, bronze boots, or grandfather clocks.

- The racing surface can make a difference in who wins.
- Fans gather 'round the garage area (paddock) to watch the competitors prepare for the race.
- Traffic to and from the event is h e l l.

Posted by: Raysmom | May 7, 2007 9:53 AM | Report abuse

I do believe there is several days of drinking leading up to the actual event.

Posted by: greenwithenvy | May 7, 2007 9:57 AM | Report abuse

SCC - Wheezy's priceless *picture.*

Posted by: Kim | May 7, 2007 10:00 AM | Report abuse

Oops! 8:51 was me.

CP, will you be at the BPH? Looking forward to a full report on flowers and birdies.

Scotty, Mudge, mo, also looking forward to a download on the wine festival. So many wineries I've never been to--would love an advance scouting report.

Posted by: Raysmom | May 7, 2007 10:07 AM | Report abuse

Scotty, is the fax machine up and running? Could we send a dozen roses and 8 hours of shuteye to Cassandra?

Posted by: Raysmom | May 7, 2007 10:09 AM | Report abuse

No, no, please no Cassandra Appreciation Day. I thank you much for the thought, but please don't do that. I am not alone in this world, even here in this town and county that do good work, very good work. And there are people all over this world that do good, and especially here on the boodle. Let us appreciate all that do good, and show that appreciation by doing even more good.

Posted by: Cassandra S | May 7, 2007 10:18 AM | Report abuse

Good morning all.
Tulips! We have tulips! The first ones bloomed just in time for the opening of the tulip festival last Saturday.
Planning a tulip festival is a dicey thing given the unpredictable nature of the weather. Some years it's the daffodil's festival, others, it's the stem festival.

Canadians do get outdoors naked, mostly in the summer though. Wreck beach on the University of British Columbia grounds is a much celebrated nudist beach. The cold waters of the Pacific NW offer a lesson in humility to the male swimmers.

Posted by: Shrieking Denizen | May 7, 2007 10:21 AM | Report abuse

Spring ephemerals are blooming and the wooded edge of the drive to Chez Frostbitten North looks like someone went hog wild with anemone bulbs. The precious white blooms are really bloodwort and their soft green leaves will be dinner plate size before disappearing in August. Transplanted some to my shade garden where the hostas have finally broken dormancy. Someone mentioned planting lamium in the last boodle. 50 plants? I planted just 3 last summer and they spread so rapidly I can't imagine what 50 would do. Astilbe is showing the red shoots of new growth. Can peonies be far behind?

Posted by: frostbitten | May 7, 2007 10:22 AM | Report abuse


Glad your cousin's improving.


Posted by: Scottynuke | May 7, 2007 10:24 AM | Report abuse

*faxing Cassandra a dozen hours of sleep and eight roses*

No, wait... *confused*


Posted by: Scottynuke | May 7, 2007 10:29 AM | Report abuse

Good morning all. Still no tornadoes, but about 2 inches of rain last night, lots of thunder and lightning and flooding. I think a branch on the elm broke -- I trimmed the low-lying branches yesterday and this morning another one was dipping close to the fence. The night of storms thwarted the lagomorphs (unless of course they sheltered on the carport and patio, I didn't look too closely) but I'm afraid they're like Error Flynn's groundhogs: in it for the long haul and about to show their paws.

How about a Day of Appreciation for Doing Good?

Posted by: Ivansmom | May 7, 2007 10:31 AM | Report abuse

On the way to the grocery store, I saw a wild turkey in a front yard. Hadn't seen them around here before. It looked plump and healthy; suburban life must agree with it!

Posted by: Slyness | May 7, 2007 10:33 AM | Report abuse

Kim, you are so supportive it makes we want to post more often! Thanks.

Frosti, your link about soldiers' custody battles was appalling! I wouldn't have thought that was possible, to take your kids away for no reason, can't imagine a person who would stoop so low as to do that to someone fighting overseas!

Posted by: Wheezy | May 7, 2007 10:44 AM | Report abuse

scc: me, not we.

Posted by: Wheezy | May 7, 2007 10:46 AM | Report abuse

Hey, what's that sign say?

"Post #450 Approaching"


Posted by: Scottynuke | May 7, 2007 10:46 AM | Report abuse

Look! On that signpost up ahead -- next stop: The Twilight Zone!

Posted by: StorytellerTim | May 7, 2007 10:50 AM | Report abuse

Kim & S'nuke: Thanks. I'll duck in again later *waving to everyone*

Posted by: jack | May 7, 2007 10:57 AM | Report abuse

Hey - remember the sneaky Canadian spy coins?

Posted by: RD Padouk | May 7, 2007 10:58 AM | Report abuse


Posted by: byoolin | May 7, 2007 11:06 AM | Report abuse

Apparently I slept in.

Posted by: byoolin | May 7, 2007 11:07 AM | Report abuse

Hey, 'Mudge...what's your take on the Yankees' deal with Clemens? Generally, I'm struck by the way teams throw $ about, looking for the magic bullet. There was a recent atory about how well Alex Rodriguez was playing of late, claiming that his reputation for fizzling at playoff time was undeserved. Seems like these athletes are paid to produce...The Cubs have tried throwing $, to no avail, and await the depths of the cellar.

Posted by: jack | May 7, 2007 11:09 AM | Report abuse

RD, I was just about to link that. Here's the Globe and Mail's coverage.

Let this be a lesson to us. Our fondness for non-bland money was nearly a causus belli.

Posted by: SonofCarl | May 7, 2007 11:10 AM | Report abuse

RD, that coin was originally given out only at that bastion of super spy-dom, Tim Hortons.

Like I said, we are a sneaky bunch.

Posted by: dr | May 7, 2007 11:20 AM | Report abuse

Of course, after this successful disinformation campaign, it should be possible now to plant actual nanotechnology coins on persons of interest...

Posted by: ScienceTim | May 7, 2007 11:23 AM | Report abuse

A wine report, Raysmom? OK. This may be a bit long, so boodlers may want to skip.

First off is a winery I hadn't heard of before, nor visited, called Chateau Morrisette, which should be of great interest to Wilbrod, Yoki, and some other dog-loving boodlers. I don't know the exact background connection, but for some reason they have a strong interest in and connection with service dogs. Here's a blurb from their Web site:

"There are two new "dogs" at Château Morrisette, [many of their wines have "dog" names; I bought three bottles of a very nice wine called "Our Dog Blue," and three bottles of "Blushing Dog." (One has to have a helluva lot of confidence in one's masculinity to drink a wine called "Blushing Dog," I suppose.)] and both are "dogs for a cause." In partnership with Service Dogs of Virginia and Saint Francis of Assisi Service Dog Foundation,Château Morrisette has created LIBERTY and INDEPENDENCE, two new wines that pay tribute to service dogs and their dedication to enhancing the lives of people with disabilities. For more information on Château Morrisette's service dog wines click here." [}

They also have a very tasty dessert wine called "Frosty Dog" that I can recommend, though at $19 a pop it's a little out of my general price range (most dessert wines, also called "ice wines," are, but damn, they are good.)

Their Web site is http colon //www dot thedogs dot com/index dot php?pr=Home_Page They are located on the Blue Ridge Parkway in Floyd, VA, I think near the North Carolina border, and have tours, a restaurant, concerts, a shop that sells ehir own wines as well as some California wines, etc. It's a "must visit" for my wife and me next time we get out to the Parkway. And they'll ship just about anywhere inside the U.S. (sorry, Canuckistanis).

Next up is a winery called Stone Mountain Vineyard, http colon //www dot stonemountainvineyards dot com/ which I mentioned the other day. We've been there, and I knew going in they were going to be my first stop, since I suspected they might sell out of my favorites before the day was out. So first thing I did was buy a case of one of my alltime favorites, Bacon Hollow Revenuers Select ($13 a bottle, but they only produce about 350 cases a year) ("Our tribute to Moonshiners and the Revenue Agents who pursued them. A sweet white wine. Easy to drink, especially on a hot summer afternoon! Bright citrus nose with lemon and grapefruit tones. Pairs well with spicy foods, such as Thai or Szechuan.")

And I also bought a case of a wine they call Maquillage: "Appellation: Virginia
Varietal Composition: Cabernet Sauvignon, Sangiovese and Cabernet Franc
Harvested: September 30, 2004
Aging: Stainless steel
Fermentation: Stainless Steel Fermentation
Alcohol: 12.5 %
Acidity: 5.2 g/L
Residual Sugar: 3.0 %
pH: 3.54
Bottling Date: March 23, 2006
Production: 412 cases
Virginia pink - an educated white zin. Refreshing with lively fruit tones and a bright floral nose. Outstanding as an aperitif wine or with dishes with a hint of spice. A nice accompaniment to fresh fruit and cheeses." I like this one, too, but bought it mostly for my wife, who refers to this stuff as "Kool-Aid." $12 a bottle. (They give case discounts, like everybody else, which is why I buy cases when I can afford it.)

So, yeah, visiting Stone Mountain put a dent in my wallet, but it'll keep us feeling warm and fuzzy for at least a year or two.

The third one I'd highly recommend is called Burnley Vineyards, in Barboursville, VA. They have a series of wines named Rivanna (after their local river) that are very modestly priced and all very good. http colon //www dot burnleywines dot com/index2 dot html In particular I like their Montichello Riesling ($10); Rivanna Sunset (rosé, $9), a nice blush; a sweet wine called Somerset ($9); a great autumn wine called Spicy Rivanna ($10) that you can drink hot or cold, and tastes like a mulled wine--which I guess it is, since it has cinnamon, clove, nutmeg, allspice, anise, orange peel, and lemon peel in it; and a really, really nice and VERY inexpensive dessert wine called Moon Mist ($10, which is a steal for a dessert wine, aka an "ice wine").

We bought a couple bottles of a nice white from Horton Vineyards called "Eclipse" ("Fine blend of Viognier, Rkatsitelli. Floral nose, rich fruit, sweet finish.") for $10 a bottle. And bought a couple bottles of Lakeside Sunset from Lake Anna Vineyards, which is also sold in many liquor stores and wine shops around Virginia.

I'd have bought another case or two of this and that, except my spouse was starting to cock an eyebrow at me. And I'd have had to use mo, mo's mom, and Scotty and April as pack mules to help me truck the stuff to the car.

Be advised that my recommendations are fairly skewed: my wife and I don't like "typical" red and white wines aged in oak, which is usually everybody else's gold standard. So I can't vouch for any of the usual chardonnays and merlots, etc. We almost always drink wines aged in stainless steel, which most of the above are.

Happy motoring.

Posted by: Curmudgeon | May 7, 2007 11:23 AM | Report abuse

Most of those "poppy" quarters don't show any colour anymore. Same thing for the pink ribbon quarters.
Some protective coating it was. sheesh

re. pebble nuclear reactors. I don't know what they are but the Canadian company AECL was toying around with a "simple design/small core" nuclear reactor way back when. "Slopoke" it was called.

Maybe this is what the province of Alberta has its mind on for its upcoming nukularization.

bc, I'll make a special-quick drive to the office tomorrow to mark the 25th anniversary of Gilles Villeneuve's passing in Zolder, Belgium. It's a joy to see today's F1 cars keeping together in the same kind of accident. They weren't so forgiving back then.

Posted by: Shrieking Denizen | May 7, 2007 11:23 AM | Report abuse

New kit.

Posted by: dbG | May 7, 2007 11:24 AM | Report abuse

Hmm. Appears to be a new kit. Soo you over there.

Posted by: Curmudgeon | May 7, 2007 11:25 AM | Report abuse

The solution of course is to have all subs only buy their morning coffee from Starbucks, which has never had a ditribution agreement with the mint.

Nest thing to watch for, Canadian Tire money.

Posted by: dr | May 7, 2007 11:25 AM | Report abuse

When I saw this headline on the other newspaper, I cannot but think of Scotty's powerful fax machine. Are there Achenbloggers embedded in the other newsroom boodling and working with subsconscience?
"Beam It Down From the Web, Scotty"

Posted by: daiwanlan | May 7, 2007 12:29 PM | Report abuse

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