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I had a fine Father's Day despite my opposition to the entire concept. In general I don't believe in commercial holidays, as they exist primarily as consumption motivators in a society that consumes too much already. And we are not being completely honest with ourselves if we do not acknowledge that fathers don't really need the additional glorification, and at some level have been overrated in every culture for many millennia -- going all the way back to that moment when primitive hominids descended from trees and took the first weed-eater to the savannah.

There are great fathers out there, without question, but the grading scale has always been absurdly generous. You get points just for showing up. Pick up a baby? Huge points. Change a diaper? The crowd roars and cheers.

To be considered a good father you basically have to be just a tiny bit better than Darth Vader.

In generations past, there were many men who did not see their role in society as one that involved the direct nurturing of children. Some vanished into their jobs. Some dedicated their lives to the war against conformity. Collectively they set a standard for "good fathering" that is not hard to meet. And for that we must thank them. They labored to create a world in which the feeblest gesture of paternal sensitivity would make their male progeny stand out as wonderful human beings.

And so you can see why I worry about my friends who are such spectacular fathers that they are hiking up the standards to unsustainable levels. These SuperDads are always playing catch with their kids, and reading to them, and having heart-to-hearts. They teach their kids practical skills, and show them how to play fair and be a gracious winner or loser. They listen to their kids, and set firm boundaries on appropriate behavior. They're fully engaged. And it just breaks ... my ... heart.

Because a lot of these men have sons, and those little boys will someday be fathers themselves. Is it really fair to ask them to meet the SuperDad standard, and do all that listening and bonding and teaching and carousel-horse-carving and whatnot? You make the call.

Naturally I had a lot of these thoughts yesterday on Father's Day, which I spent doing appropriate levels of yardwork and golf-watching. Two kids are out of town, but my youngest went on a walk with me in the morning and we went to Starbucks and then later to Georgetown and had a fab brunch, just the two of us, at Clyde's, which by coincidence is the first place I ate in Washington, back in 1973, with my own Dad -- who had an uncanny ability to find great restaurants, who always knew what to order, and who, on that long-ago day, ordered a bacon cheeseburger. I don't know why I remember that.

In any case, we probably ought to dispense with Father's Day and replace it with Children's Day. A day dedicated to kids, whether our own or someone else's. They're the ones who should be glorified and praised and celebrated. And to keep the transition to Children's Day smooth, and the retailers happy, we will promise to buy the kids neckties and golf balls and power tools.

By Joel Achenbach  |  June 18, 2007; 6:47 AM ET
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I remember Linus proposing a Children's Day in *Peanuts.* His grandmother replied, "Every day is children's day."

She was wrong, and this is a terrific idea.

Posted by: dbG | June 18, 2007 7:41 AM | Report abuse

Kid's day. I like that thought. Don't they have something like that in Japan? I have a memory from elementary school to that effect...

Posted by: Slyness | June 18, 2007 7:42 AM | Report abuse

Oh, and First!

Posted by: dbG | June 18, 2007 7:42 AM | Report abuse

"opposite" OK? Or "opposition"?

Posted by: Tom fan | June 18, 2007 7:46 AM | Report abuse

Chris Rock has a routine about dads who go around bragging "I take care of my kids!" What do want, a cookie?

Posted by: yellojkt | June 18, 2007 7:49 AM | Report abuse

Does 'Mudge know about this????

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Posted by: Scottynuke | June 18, 2007 7:52 AM | Report abuse

You know, we could make scheduling a whole lot easier if we just had an Everybody's Day.


Posted by: Scottynuke | June 18, 2007 8:09 AM | Report abuse

"Opposition" it is. Thanks...

Posted by: Achenbach | June 18, 2007 8:12 AM | Report abuse

>and how would we have been able to take that trip to Yellowstone last year with the trailer without the SUV?"

Well Scotty, where's our pint-size nuclear reactors bud? Ought to be enough room under the hood of a Suburban!

I guess you actually run on steam so there should be plenty of left-over hot water for laundry, not to mention a handy way to steam veggies and lobster on the road.

Posted by: Error Flynn | June 18, 2007 8:25 AM | Report abuse

My wife keeps telling me it's time for me to go out and get the trophy wife and start raising kids all over again. I tell her second families are for dads who feel guilty about neglecting their first set of kids.

I have been a very involved dad. Cub Scouts. Band Parent. Endless school field trips. I got my son to take of his new Bose headphones long enough to ask him if I have been involved enough in his life.

He said, "Yeah. I guess so. You took me to Balticon."

That will be my legacy.

Posted by: yellojkt | June 18, 2007 8:28 AM | Report abuse

At our house, July 9 is Daughters' Day, and has been for years.

Posted by: Yoki | June 18, 2007 8:52 AM | Report abuse

Don't worry guys, I held up my end of the Father's Day deal for everybody. Yes, the kids made me breakfast (Potato Bread French Toast and sausage links...mmmm) while I watched the finish of the LeMans 24 hour, and even kinda cleaned up the kitchen (sorry, kitchen cleaning isn't done if your eyes aren't watering from the bleach fumes), but I got back at them by dragging them to the Udvar-Hazy Air & Space museum and lecturing them on darn near every vehicle in the joint.

Then I took them out to a nice dinner; using utensils, saying please and thank you, no kneeling in the chair, napkin in the lap and everything.

The kids applauded my manners, and pleased that they didn't have to badger me.



Posted by: bc | June 18, 2007 8:53 AM | Report abuse

Oh, that's right yello -- make me feel guilty, because I didn't take my kids to Balticon so they could grill Larry Niven about why he is so sexist in writing his female characters. Hey! I was busy, y'know? Those photons don't collect themselves.

For Father's Day, we went to look at a house on which we are off to place an offer this morning. For my birthday (today), I have been granted permission to buy a new digital camera at a rather self-indulgent level of capability.

Posted by: ScienceTim | June 18, 2007 8:54 AM | Report abuse

I'm glad all you Dads had good days.

Happy Birthday Science Tim!!

Posted by: greenwithenvy | June 18, 2007 9:00 AM | Report abuse

Jumping up and down waving at Yoki!!!

Kids Day is an excellent idea, although they seemed to enjoyed Mother's and Father's Day just as much. The little one bounces around for days anxious to give out her precious hand made gifts and cards.

Good luck with the house SciTim.

Posted by: dmd | June 18, 2007 9:03 AM | Report abuse

Niven has female characters? Who knew? Other than the non-sapient female Kzin, I had never noticed. I guess that proves your point.

Connie Willis is the guest of honor next year. You can take your kids and give them a positive female role model to emulate.

For Father's Day, my son gave me a price quote on the parts needed to replace my six year old computer with one that is fast enough to do the video editing for his school projects.

Posted by: yellojkt | June 18, 2007 9:03 AM | Report abuse

Happy Birthday ScienceTim. I'd say celebrate wildly, but I figure that's in your plans anyway.

Good luck on the house-buying process. Don't forget, you need three clauses -- general home inspection clause, termite inspection clause, and chimney inspection clause.

Posted by: LostInThought | June 18, 2007 9:06 AM | Report abuse

Don't forget radon testing and lead paint testing. And ask them where the septic tank is. You may need to know that someday.

Posted by: yellojkt | June 18, 2007 9:11 AM | Report abuse

EF, correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't Asimov have walnut-sized reactors in the Foundation series?

Pint-sized would be good, but I'm holding out for one that I could leave in my other pants.

Also: Slyness, those pics are beautiful, thanks for thinking of me on that mountain drive. I *do* love an engaging drive on a good mountain road.

On a later Father's Day note, I did Tivo some of the US Open and the United States Grand Prix at Indianapoils for later viewing (how *about* my man Lewis Hamilton? bill everything - noted USGP whiner Ralf Schumacher was the first guy out of the race when he botched the first corner. Darn shame he took some other guys out with him.)


Posted by: bc | June 18, 2007 9:14 AM | Report abuse

bc, Wouldn't reactors that could be put in a pants pocket be just a tad dangerous if you know what I mean.

Posted by: dr | June 18, 2007 9:23 AM | Report abuse

Hallmark holidays such as Father's Day seem saccharin to me. My wife & I encouraged or daughters from the earliest to create "cards" with their thoughts. Isn't it painful to watch buyers in the card store struggling to find a card that one card that maybe reflects their sentiment. It is nice to get a hand made card that says exactly what the giver intends.

Posted by: Frank W.Heneghan | June 18, 2007 9:24 AM | Report abuse

We have given up on greeting cards in our house. That is eventually going to cause some friction with my parents. My mom sends cards for every occasion: Thanksgiving, Easter, Halloween, Arbor Day. My dad sent me a Father's Day card. I left a message on his voice mail.

Posted by: yellojkt | June 18, 2007 9:27 AM | Report abuse

bc: Ralf obviously has been taking lessons from the White House about shrugging off responsibility:

"Things do happen at the start," he said. "The grip was not perfect, and the tire locked a little bit. I just got in the way of David or he into my way, one of the two. It's just unfortunate."

Sheesh . . . .

Here's the full article about the collision:

Posted by: bill everything | June 18, 2007 9:29 AM | Report abuse

Oh, there's a BOO.

Happy Birthday, *Tim.

And don't forget that if the sellers don't agree to LiT's three, you need to consider engaging the fourth - the lost clause.

Congrats on the new camera, I'm sure you'll enjoy the hi-res pics of your favorite subject.


Posted by: bc | June 18, 2007 9:32 AM | Report abuse

>didn't Asimov have walnut-sized reactors in the Foundation series?

Speaking of things I need to re-read, that's probably tops on the list. So I dunno. But if they can't make it any smaller than my 472 in the heavy Chevy I think I'd still take it.

Good race at the USGP, Lewis Hamilton is indeed the man.

Posted by: Error Flynn | June 18, 2007 9:34 AM | Report abuse

Morning Boodle. For Father's Day I planted the newly purchased crape myrtle without assistance from Mr. F who was dreading having to do it. I'm sure he was having flashbacks to every hole he ever dug in NoVA, all of which seemed to have been filled with boulders held together by red clay the consistency of concrete. Our soil here is so easily dug it could be confused for sand. (It is sand, I live in denial.)

If that weren't treat enough we ate at a favorite seafood dive with an old friend whose father died a few months ago. He brought Mom along and surprisingly, considering the circumstances, hilarity ensued with Frostdottir's teen foibles providing many punch lines. (We will pay dearly at some later date when she is in full umbrage mode.)

Posted by: frostbitten | June 18, 2007 9:36 AM | Report abuse

dr, it's not dangerous if you have the right boxers. But tighty-whiteys would be insufficient.

bill e - at this rate, I expect Ralf to be fired or at least benched before the season's over. He's being paid something like $20M a year, and doing nothing to justify it to this point.


Posted by: bc | June 18, 2007 9:40 AM | Report abuse

"Is that a walnut reactor in your pocket, or are you just glowing to see me?"

Posted by: yellojkt | June 18, 2007 9:43 AM | Report abuse

bc... I thought that was *our* favorite subject. :-)

Hey... can we have a show of hands and a rough head count on the First Nationals BPH this weekend: Saturday night, RFK Stadium, gathering at 5:30 or so (at a place to be determined).

So.. who's in?

Posted by: TBG | June 18, 2007 9:43 AM | Report abuse

yellojkt, thank you for restoring my faith in humanity with your 9:43.

I was wondering when someone was going to take a swing at that softball (as it were).

EF, you have a crate 472 in something?


Posted by: bc | June 18, 2007 9:47 AM | Report abuse

There is only one true Father's Day and I have experienced it. It was the day that the kurosawachick's last college tuition check was written. In the words of the immortal Dr. King, "Free at last, free at last! Great God Almighty, I'm free at last!"

Posted by: kurosawaguy | June 18, 2007 9:48 AM | Report abuse

Speaking of people benched, I thought it was interesting that Jack Villeneuve was in the Peugot diesel at Le Mans this year. I was beginning to think he had retired to run a maintain bike shop in Colorado or something.

Cool looking car, that Peugot.

Posted by: Error Flynn | June 18, 2007 9:50 AM | Report abuse

TBG, at this point I'm in for the BPH, as certain as St. Heisenberg (motto: "Your mileage may vary.")


Posted by: bc | June 18, 2007 9:51 AM | Report abuse

>EF, you have a crate 472 in something?

Not a crate, that's standard issue '68 Coupe de Ville. MUHAHAHAHA

Posted by: Error Flynn | June 18, 2007 9:51 AM | Report abuse

kguy!!! *waving wildly*

Happy Birthday, *Tim!!! *faxin' a cake wildly*

TBG, count two more in for Saturday.

EF, there's this company that talks about "urban mini-reactors," yanno...


Posted by: Scottynuke | June 18, 2007 9:56 AM | Report abuse

Sorry, TBG. I will be in Beijing by the time of the first pitch.

Posted by: yellojkt | June 18, 2007 9:59 AM | Report abuse

EF, last I heard Jacques was recording a record in Quebec (honestly).

Posted by: dmd | June 18, 2007 10:02 AM | Report abuse


Happy Birthday Tim and congrats on the almost-yours house.

Slyness, why aren't you supposed to use cast iron pans on flat-top stoves? Not that I do, but guys like Alton Brown sometimes make me feel guilty for not even owning one.

Yesterday I wasn't even torn between watching the US Open or the NASCAR race. The Open was a great story with all kinds of plot twists. NASCAR seems to have become SSDD, so I fast-forwarded through most of it to see the last laps. bc, is there a cure for NASCAR fatigue?

Posted by: Raysmom | June 18, 2007 10:08 AM | Report abuse

Hi, k-guy!

Congrats on your freedom on Father's Day.

Me, I'd still be worried my daughter would want a wedding with 300 guests. And I have three daughters.

In the words of poet-philosopher Kris Kristofferson,

"freedom's just another word
for nothing left to lose,"


Posted by: bc | June 18, 2007 10:11 AM | Report abuse

Mornin' all...

Joel... you know that if you had taken this same angle on a kit regarding Mother's Day, even Salman Rushdie would be saying "man... you really shouldn't have gone there".

Manufactured-by-Hallmark holiday or not, us Dads deserve at least one "special" day a year (whether we feel special or not).


(btw... due to not "working the program", the sobriety ticker has unfortunately had to be reset to zero)

Posted by: martooni | June 18, 2007 10:11 AM | Report abuse

>"urban mini-reactors,"

They need to shoot for dishwasher-size. Then we got somethin'.

dmd, thanks for the JV update. I can't imagine his singing voice. Don't... want... to... !

At least NASCAR is in HD now. That doesn't suck.

Posted by: Error Flynn | June 18, 2007 10:15 AM | Report abuse

martooni, just think of it as a lesson learned. Hang in there.

Posted by: Raysmom | June 18, 2007 10:16 AM | Report abuse

martooni, every path has its patches of uneven ground. Now you have some experience on how to keep your balance next time.


Posted by: Scottynuke | June 18, 2007 10:22 AM | Report abuse

Let's just say his voice is perhaps best listened to while in an F1 car, the album is in French by the way.

Martooni, just keep trying.

Posted by: dmd | June 18, 2007 10:22 AM | Report abuse

Jacques V's record is epically bad. He should have stuck with driving and badmouthing his colleagues, he's much better at that.
He actually had a good race at Le Mans but the engine quit with 22.5 hours done but with still 90 minutes to go. The second Peugeot's engine quit too but with minutes to go they run it at no-low oil pressure to the finish. I wouldn't want to be in that situation, running the last lap with no oil pressure. Talk about stress.
I had a busy Father's day, opening the pool and all but it was OK to be outside in gorgeous weather. The kids found out it was father's day when I casually mentioned it while eating the dinner I PREPARED FROM SCRATCH. That was OK, we usually go out on FD as I am the family's cook but I was too dirty and tired for that last night. And we have to watch the Puppy too. Yes, the old dog now has a little friend. The old lab is not really thrilled but it takes it better than the stupid cat.

Posted by: shrieking denizen | June 18, 2007 10:36 AM | Report abuse

From the bass Loodle: A middle school student gets in trouble for giving his girlfriend a HUG.

I bet if he asked, the school nurse would have given him a CONDOM instead.

Hang in there danghippie. Hopefully this picture of a potential partner for Stella will cheer you up:

We definitely are ENTHUSIASTIC. (Sorry to shout, but I can't use italics like Sandy Lovemuffin)

Posted by: Pop Socket | June 18, 2007 10:40 AM | Report abuse

I will be attending the game and will let you know if anybody will be joining me.

Hey Martooni, just hang in there dude,you already taken the biggest step. I am sure your sponsor is telling you the same. When I was working the program, my sponsor told me 90% of us slip once. It is just like falling off a horse, get back on and continue on with the journey.

Posted by: greenwithenvy | June 18, 2007 10:44 AM | Report abuse

Add me to the chorus from your group of imaginary supporters. I hope I never have to deal with the demons you do. It's very brave to admit you need to keep going. One stumble isn't going to keep you from completing your journey.

Posted by: yellojkt | June 18, 2007 10:49 AM | Report abuse

That's SIR Salman Rushdie.

Posted by: Dave of the Coonties | June 18, 2007 10:54 AM | Report abuse

Happy birthday, Tim! And good luck with the house offer, hope everything works out for the very best!

Raysmom, I dunno why. I surmise that castiron might crack the glass top, but that's just a guess.

Heyyy, k-guy! Yeah, writing that last check is a good feeling, isn't it? I'm hoping elder child will be reasonable about a wedding, but that's not in her nature.

Sooo, martooni, we pick ourselves up and go again. Grace is sufficient for all.

Posted by: Slyness | June 18, 2007 10:55 AM | Report abuse

martooni, you made it as far as you did, you - and we - know you can do it again and then some.

Raysmom, I've got the same SSDD/fatigue issue with NASCAR, which is why I am more inclined to watch the road courses and small ovals. I have an idea though: maybe you and the Mr. would like to spend an afternoon or evening at the Allsports GP kart track near Dulles:

That might help.


Posted by: bc | June 18, 2007 11:15 AM | Report abuse

A fine Father's Day weekend. Talked to Carl, and had some attention my way as well.

yellojkt, re: your 9:43. It had to be said. I was backboodling and all ready to go on the obvious joke clean up squad.

martooni, hang in there.

Pop Socket, see? It wasn't so hard to go off topic. We have a bunker to hide in when Ron Paul's jackbooted thugs come asking for you after straying off-message, so don't worry. ;)

Posted by: SonofCarl | June 18, 2007 11:17 AM | Report abuse

Another observation from the weekend. I think one of the saddest things in pro sports is to watch the young up-and-comer who starts day four of a major golf tournament in the lead (in this case, the Australian Baddely in the US Open). He got a triple bogey on the bit that I watched, and shot an 80 on Sunday.

Posted by: SonofCarl | June 18, 2007 11:25 AM | Report abuse

bc, good idea. In my former job, we went to one of those places for a team building event, and it was a blast! (Especially the opportunity to spin out the boss.)

You also reminded me that we need to get out to Shenandoah Speedway the next time we're at the country place. I especially like the races run with the battered hulls of old 4-cylinder cars, like Dodge Neons.

Posted by: Raysmom | June 18, 2007 11:30 AM | Report abuse

SoC, you're right, it was so sad to see young Aaron implode after showing such promise on Saturday. Even sadder, NBC just stopped showing his shots, as if Tiger was playing all by himself.

Posted by: Raysmom | June 18, 2007 11:33 AM | Report abuse

Martooni, you walk, correct? When you were learning to walk, you tripped and fell, you got off balance, you ran and could not stop, so falling looked like a way to stop. It took a while for you to get the hang of walking. So too, with this. Counter reset, maybe, but you had a couple of path's you could have chosen. One to reset, and one to stop counting. I'm really really glad you chose the first.

A chilly weekend camping. We toughed it out. Details here:

Posted by: dr | June 18, 2007 11:38 AM | Report abuse

I love this Kit. Ivansdad was the stay-at-home, or "primary caretaker" in jargon, until the Boy began school. He's routinely taken care of the Boy, but never babysat a day in his life. [Not for others' kids, either. Pedants.] He did an excellent job. However, he also benefited from the extemely low bar to which fathers are so often held. [Kids, don't try that sentence at home.] I agree with Linus's grandmother that every day is kids' day. They'd like to think so, anyway, and giving them an inch will just encourage them to take that mile.

Short takes:
Happy birthday and good house-hunting, ScienceTim.
Martooni, thanks for being honest with us and yourself. We're happy to restart the clock, dude, so keep it going.
Pop Socket, keep working on that shouting. Nice expansion of themes.
Point of confusion from yesterday: LB, I didn't mean to make any substantive comment about Thomas Keller or fancy restaurants, and certainly nothing disparaging. I merely noted that is one of Pixar's somewhat unlikely draws for Ratatouille.

Posted by: Ivansmom | June 18, 2007 11:44 AM | Report abuse

dr... I am in awe of your talent with yarn. The only thing I can knit is my brow.

Posted by: TBG | June 18, 2007 11:58 AM | Report abuse

dr, the pictures of your handiwork were wonderful, I am not handy in knitting or needle work but have done some projects for the kids, but not close to your standard.

Posted by: dmd | June 18, 2007 12:01 PM | Report abuse

Everything I want to say has been said and better than I could. So Ditto...

Posted by: omni | June 18, 2007 12:29 PM | Report abuse

are y'all eatin' lunch, or chattin' with Tom, or both, or...

Posted by: omni | June 18, 2007 12:55 PM | Report abuse

Nice spot dr. It's not in the Pigeon lake area I gather?

Posted by: shrieking denizen | June 18, 2007 1:02 PM | Report abuse

Raysmom, I've been thinking about entering one of those 4-cyl events. I've been trying to covnice a friend that an old banged up Neon he's got would be perfect for it.

Mine's a little too nice for it, plus they don't allow manual transmissions. And I'm not going to swap in an AT just to beat the daylights out a car I can still use on the street.

BTW, how about that Angel Carbrera?
He played some great golf with the pressure on, unlike the guys who finished behind him.

Oh, and Raysmom, let me know when you and Mr. Raysmom want to go up to Allsports; that's a fun evening.


Posted by: bc | June 18, 2007 1:04 PM | Report abuse


Imagine *me* making *that* mistake.


Posted by: bc | June 18, 2007 1:05 PM | Report abuse

OK Orioles fans, was this season (so far) bad enough to fire Perlozzo over?

Me, I don't know.


Posted by: bc | June 18, 2007 1:15 PM | Report abuse


I'm surprised you didn't call him "Carrera."


Posted by: Scottynuke | June 18, 2007 1:18 PM | Report abuse

Only three teams doing worse and the Nationals ain't one of 'em.

Posted by: omni | June 18, 2007 1:19 PM | Report abuse

From our loyal Pakistani allies in the GWOT --

The award of a knighthood to the author Salman Rushdie justifies suicide attacks, a Pakistani government minister said today.

"This is an occasion for the 1.5 billion Muslims to look at the seriousness of this decision," Mohammed Ijaz ul-Haq, religious affairs minister, told the Pakistani parliament in Islamabad. "The west is accusing Muslims of extremism and terrorism. If someone exploded a bomb on his body he would be right to do so unless the British government apologises and withdraws the 'sir' title.",,2105748,00.html

Posted by: LTL-CA | June 18, 2007 1:21 PM | Report abuse

shrieking, no, its Rock Lake, north of Hinton. It overlooks Jasper and Willmore Wilderness.

I feel badly for the people in the Pigeon Lake incident. They said they were experienced campers. Camping experience and common sense don't always show up in the same place, sadly. Laying on the ground, some distance from the tree might have saved them.

We were fortunate in the mountains. No thunder, just rain.

Posted by: dr | June 18, 2007 1:31 PM | Report abuse

dr, did you get as much rain as they did in the Calgary area?

Posted by: dmd | June 18, 2007 1:33 PM | Report abuse

Wow, I feel completely inadequate. Tim's buying a house, yellojkt's going to China, dr's blogging and knitting socks while camping in the rain. I'm hoping to get my hair cut today (I dreamed that I didn't even manage that, and was going to have to do it on my way home from work Tuesday.)

*waving quietly at Kguy so as not to scare him off*

Posted by: mostlylurking | June 18, 2007 1:39 PM | Report abuse

Thank you for the comments on my blog. This was only its second public appearance. You are too kind. Its not really a talent, its more of a test of perseverance attached to a terminal case of playing with string. String seriously interferes with reading, but it does allow me to watch a lot of movies.

Posted by: dr | June 18, 2007 1:41 PM | Report abuse

Happy Monday, everyone. Congratulations on the relatively successful passage of another Father's Day.

Good luck with the house, SciTim, great birthday present if the offer gets accepted.

Martooni...Never say die. Go find that wagon and climb back on it, knowing that we're all here cheering and waving like mad, and will be, no matter how many times you have to climb back up on it.


Posted by: CJ | June 18, 2007 1:51 PM | Report abuse

Now if we can just get all those overacheiving mommies to cut it out - think of the unrealistic interest level in children that they're setting up their daughters with.

Posted by: Nanc | June 18, 2007 1:56 PM | Report abuse

Front Page alert.

Posted by: Curmudgeon | June 18, 2007 1:57 PM | Report abuse

Not so much as Calgary. At the house of R it was dry as a bone. News showed pictures from Banff. It snowed up this weekend.

mostly, you just have to keep telling yourself that hairstyle really doen't matter, that it only matters that you keep it off your face in order to see the strings better. Stop at a yarn shop. You will feel better.

Posted by: dr | June 18, 2007 2:02 PM | Report abuse

Although Joel's father might have excelled at defying conformity, my own father was just the opposite. He did not much cotton to changes in the status quo. In fact, he could become downright testy if anything unexpected ever occurred.

As children we learned early on that my father was not a man to whom you took problems; my father was a man from whom you carefully hid problems. (One of my earliest memories is of him becoming violently apoplectic over a clogged toilet.) We either solved problems on our own, or consulted, in hushed tones, with our mother. Mine was a childhood of guile and conspiracy whose overriding goal was to keep my father blissfully ignorant.

And in some twisted way our dysfunctional childhood may have actually worked to our advantage. For all of us have become successful adults. But, of course, it has come at a price. Not the least of which is that I became a parent with very few insights into how to pull off this whole fatherhood gig. Fortunately, I married a strong woman who took it for granted that I was to serve strictly as an advisor.

I take further solace from the insight that a knowledge of conventional fathering is only applicable if one ends up with conventional children. And, as luck would have it, both of my children are decidedly unconventional. So it kinda worked out in the end.

Besides, I guess all fathers, to some degree, must make it up as they go along. All parenting is improvisational. All I can say for certain is that my children will never remember their father getting angry about a clogged toilet.

Of which I am inordinately proud.

Posted by: RD Padouk | June 18, 2007 2:07 PM | Report abuse

Long direct flights save a lot of time. I liked Dulles-Tokyo in February, especially taking some aerial photos of Fairbanks from the window. It helped that the flight was run by ANA, using a nice new plane with video-on-demand.

I've seen some of the art that used to be in the Forbidden City, at the National Palace Museum in Taipei.

Beijing is busy enough that they probably won't show off a major aspect of the civilization--cultivated flowering plants. The Chinese bred camellias, roses, hibiscuses, peonies, etc. European and American gardens would be nearly naked without them. Long ago, Colonial Williamsburg even yanked out the forysthia bushes.

Posted by: Dave of the Coonties | June 18, 2007 2:19 PM | Report abuse

You have hit on one of the concepts Joel only hinted at. Fathers of my dad's generation never changed diapers, missed birthdays on a regular basis, and served more as a bogeyman threat than an actual day to day parent.

That is why we feel so accomplished for doing anything while spouses expect a more equitable sharing of roles. It's all a matter or role models and expectations. My wife is very proud that my son is already more domesticated than she can ever hope to get me.

Posted by: yellojkt | June 18, 2007 2:31 PM | Report abuse

And Joel, I loved the description of your morning with your daughter. I hope you enjoy those fab brunches while you can.

Posted by: RD Padouk | June 18, 2007 2:31 PM | Report abuse

SCC: It's all a matter of rolemodels...

Thanks for the heads up, Dave. I will definitely pay attention to the flora. Like I said in my blog, I'm taking over 10 gigs of media storage and we have a gadget that lets me use my iPod for overflow. This trip will be nothing if not well documented.

Posted by: yellojkt | June 18, 2007 2:42 PM | Report abuse

RD, it sounds as if your childhood prepared you pretty well for your nascent management career -- discussing a problem in hushed tones with the other team members, trying to solve it before bringing it to the boss.
Actually, as so often happens in one way or another, it sounds as if your father's temperament and approach to parenting did prepare you not to be like him. Many people don't manage to accomplish that. Congratulations on your success so far.

Besides, as you say, mostly parenting is making it up without letting the kids know. At least it is for us. I invented a "Parent's Manual", which I often referred to when the Boy was young, as authority for random parental pronouncements. I told him it was given to each parent at the hospital but VERY secret and he must never mention it to other children. This worked surprisingly well for many years, but now I think he's on to me.

He doesn't believe lightning bugs cause lighting either.

Posted by: Ivansmom | June 18, 2007 2:51 PM | Report abuse

Lightning. Lightning bugs cause lightning. Everyone knows lighting is caused by diet.

Posted by: Ivansmom | June 18, 2007 2:55 PM | Report abuse

>lighting is caused by diet.

And here I thought it was PSE&G. What am I paying those guys for?

Posted by: Error Flynn | June 18, 2007 3:06 PM | Report abuse

See, when you diet, you get lighter . . . oh never mind.
I apologize.

Posted by: Ivansmom | June 18, 2007 3:08 PM | Report abuse

Ivansmom, as someone who typed lightening for lightning early today - do not apologize.

It was my child who invented our Parents Guide, she would compliment me when I did something she thought was really good and ask if there was a book I had that taught me to be a Mom, I said yes the Mom book.

She seemed to forget those compliments on the days when she would pack her bags to go live somewhere where there was "no rules". :-)

Posted by: dmd | June 18, 2007 3:15 PM | Report abuse

Really Ivansmom, no need to apologize: both your posts made laugh.

Posted by: omni | June 18, 2007 3:21 PM | Report abuse

>Ivansmom, as someone who typed lightening for lightning early today - do not apologize.

Indeed. I'm on a lighten up kick myself. I just couldn't resist.

Posted by: Error Flynn | June 18, 2007 3:22 PM | Report abuse

When I eat too much, do I darken?

Lavar Arrington was in a bad crash on the beltway; he's in stable condition at PG Hospital.

Posted by: Curmudgeon | June 18, 2007 3:27 PM | Report abuse

Error, if I'd seen your post before writing mine, I might have left it alone. I thought I had killed the Boodle with my bad joke. I'll have to work harder.

Posted by: Ivansmom | June 18, 2007 3:33 PM | Report abuse

Error after I saw Ivansmom, I realized my typo, so I doubled check and laughed when I saw the definition (medical) of lightening. Sometime Errors are funny.

Posted by: dmd | June 18, 2007 3:33 PM | Report abuse

oh come on. every day these days is "kids day". Kids are the center of the universe. Compare their role in society to that even 50 years ago, and you will see how insane it has gotten.

Posted by: Anonymous | June 18, 2007 3:34 PM | Report abuse

My dad calls kids The Ultimate Pet. I find little evidence to dispute that hypothesis. I keep explaining to my son that the economic benefits of children eroded long ago.

Posted by: yellojkt | June 18, 2007 3:39 PM | Report abuse

>I'll have to work harder.

Oh my Ivansmom, don't work harder. Take my advice on this. We all work too hard as it is.

Posted by: Error Flynn | June 18, 2007 3:41 PM | Report abuse

OH! SOOOOOO GLAD YOU HAD A HAPPY CHILDREN'S the US was bombing the life out of seven children in Afganiastan. At a mosque that is also a madrass school...(we can't have them learning things the Israelis won't like). They must've been MILITANTS, as is every Palestinian child the Israelis shoot or bomb.
We are in fact becoming like Israel. No surprise, the war was conceived and is run by Jewish neocons for Israel. And the world also detests our savagery.

Posted by: Disgusted | June 18, 2007 3:48 PM | Report abuse

A darn shame about LaVar.

Wow, that works on so many levels.

I hope LaVar isn't too badly hurt.
After the ACL injury last year and being cut by the Giants, the guy's luck sure isn't very good lately.

-Bill C

Posted by: bc | June 18, 2007 3:52 PM | Report abuse

I really liked the analogy someone drew a couple of weeks ago to a neighbourhood bar.

Posted by: Yoki | June 18, 2007 3:54 PM | Report abuse

front page indeed.

Posted by: Ivansmom | June 18, 2007 3:56 PM | Report abuse

Whoops, that'd be bc.

Shouldn't have crossed the streams there.

Ah, well. So I'm another one of a million guys in the Boodle with the same first name.


Posted by: bc | June 18, 2007 3:56 PM | Report abuse

bc, You are the former President???? :-)

Posted by: dmd | June 18, 2007 4:04 PM | Report abuse

I always thought maybe you were Bill Clinton, bc. Now I'm convinced.

Posted by: TBG | June 18, 2007 4:22 PM | Report abuse

Could be Bill Cosby. Or Bill Cullen (that's my age showing. Beats my slip showing.)

Posted by: LostInThought | June 18, 2007 4:27 PM | Report abuse

dmd: //She seemed to forget those compliments on the days when she would pack her bags to go live somewhere where there was "no rules". :-)//

That would be my house. Doubtless she'd find something to hate there too! :-)

Posted by: dbG | June 18, 2007 4:27 PM | Report abuse

dbG, I used to make her promise to return if she found the land without rules because I would want to live there too, not sure if that chapter was in the Mom book.

Posted by: dmd | June 18, 2007 4:30 PM | Report abuse

dmd, it is in the mom book, in the section on teenagers. It ends with the note 'in your dreams'.

Posted by: dr | June 18, 2007 4:34 PM | Report abuse

My Father's Day was slowed by a broken collarbone sustained a few days earlier in a bike accident where I displayed heroism in trying to avoid a wayward child -- he was unscathed. I now know what it's like to crash out of The Tour.

My wife made french toast, I received some cool cards, went to the pool where I spoke boldly of my plan to heal quickly, and then off to my parents' house for the evening. In the kitchen I wished my Dad a Happy Father's Day and he responded, "same to you, kid" while my 5-year old son, standing between us, smiled a knowing smile. I think he got it.

Posted by: steelkilt | June 18, 2007 4:46 PM | Report abuse

Children's Day. Great. Why don't we just give every kid a juice box, a fruit rollup and a trophy every week, just for breathing in and out.
Oh, and don't forget the Bumper Stickers that honor the kid who gets a B in spelling.

Posted by: Kevin Fitz | June 18, 2007 4:49 PM | Report abuse

dmd, expanding (this may be covered by your subsequent post), if she doesn't have any rules, you don't either. In my house o'norules, I wouldn't feel compelled to do her laundry, grocery shop, make her breakfast, lunch and dinner, give her an allowance. . . while I'd probably do all these things, by definition, I wouldn't have to because there's *no rule* making me.

Perhaps this isn't what she imagined?

Is it my imagination, or are our new boodlers shy on whimsy?

Posted by: dbG | June 18, 2007 4:59 PM | Report abuse

I'm laughing, dbg, at "shy on whimsy." And you guys thought *I* was a sourpuss.

Posted by: Curmudgeon | June 18, 2007 5:05 PM | Report abuse

yellojkt - I think the "Ultimate Pet" analogy, although unflattering, is about right. Most of us don't have children to help with the farm, or work down at the mill, or even to take care of us in our old age.

We have them because we want to create happiness and to have witnesses to our lives. Or, as my sainted mother used to say, kids are "just good for loving."

As a child it took me a while to figure out that this wasn't anything to feel bad about.

Posted by: RD Padouk | June 18, 2007 5:06 PM | Report abuse

But, but, Mudge...isn't that your publicly assumed identity?

Of course WE know better, but still!


Posted by: Slyness | June 18, 2007 5:08 PM | Report abuse

Thanks RD. I like how when they are little they smell good and fit in your arms/lap, and when they are bigger they are funny and full of wit and zest (though not always smelling so very wonderful). Good for loving indeed!

Posted by: Yoki | June 18, 2007 5:09 PM | Report abuse

I think people aren't quite getting the thinking behind the "Children's Day" concept. They seem to be suggesting that we spoil our kids enough. But that isn't at all what Joel is saying. If I read him correctly, he is saying that the best thing about being a father isn't that you get power tools and a big breakfast once a year. The best thing about being a father is that you get to be around kids. Kids are the reward.

Posted by: RD Padouk | June 18, 2007 5:10 PM | Report abuse

I think that's right, RD. I don't see any suggestion that we should spoil the Children, just that we should celebrate them - and in a way, that is what both Father's and Mother's Days are all about (marketing aside). In fact, the Kit ends with the suggestion that we should get the kids the ties, golf balls and power tools currently offered to Dad. Now, of course, those children don't need those things, so Dad might as well get the use of them, right?

Of course, you want to watch out. This could be like Homer and Marge with the bowling ball. Imagine Bart with a chain saw. Or, worse, Milhouse.

Posted by: Ivansmom | June 18, 2007 5:22 PM | Report abuse

I'm not sure kids are the reward, Padouk; it's the grandkids who are the reward. At least in our family.

Posted by: Curmudgeon | June 18, 2007 5:23 PM | Report abuse

I don't know about you, but I put my kids to work for me plenty... bending over to pick up things on the floor, reading the little type on medicine bottles... stuff like that.

Posted by: TBG | June 18, 2007 5:26 PM | Report abuse

LiT, I don't think that's showing your age as much as either kit-writers or snoodlers using the term "fab". For you kids out there, that's middle-late 20th C English for "fabulous".

I just had a flashback of the sudden age-awareness of my fifth grade teacher when none of us knew what "tripping the lights fantastic" was.

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Posted by: mostlylurking | June 18, 2007 5:34 PM | Report abuse

Is THIS what's gonna finally do them in?

Probably not. But there's no harm in wishful thinking.

Posted by: TBG | June 18, 2007 5:40 PM | Report abuse

So basically your kids are poorly disciplined service animals that will eventually demand your car keys.

Posted by: yellojkt | June 18, 2007 5:40 PM | Report abuse

Actually, did you guys know there really IS a Children's Day? It was March 4 this year (well in New Zealand, anyway). See http://www dot childrensday dot org dot nz/ChildrensDaySite/

And Clinton had at least one: http://clinton4 dot nara dot gov/WH/new/html/Tue_Oct_10_120420_2000 dot html

It is May 5 in Japan and Nov. 14 (Nehru's birthday) in India. http://festivals dot iloveindia dot com/childrens-day/

Nov. 5 in Natal, South Africa: http://www dot capegateway dot gov dot za/eng/pubs/news/2005/nov/118763

Arbusto's Daddy proclaimed it to be Oct. 14, 1990: http://www dot presidency dot ucsb dot edu/ws/index dot php?pid=1903 (second Sunday in October)

Bu then Clinton came in and: "The Congress, by Senate Joint Resolution 139, has designated the third Sunday in November as "National Children's Day...." http://www dot presidency dot ucsb dot edu/ws/index dot php?pid=62456

This outfit wants it to be held on the third Sunday in March: http://www dot nationalchildrensday dot org/

Just sayin'.

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Posted by: CB | June 18, 2007 6:06 PM | Report abuse

Children's day is not celebrated in New Zealand, regardless of what you can find on the internet - it's a relatively new gimmick that was dreamt up a few years ago and no one does anything about, much to the chargrin of those who instigated it. I think the concept is targeted at the lower end of society and is all about taking care of your children properly - more of a "please don't beat your kids today, day" or a "please send them to school with lunch today, day". Tragic, but true.

Posted by: Kiwi | June 18, 2007 6:15 PM | Report abuse

SoC, the other day I said something about using Pantene on Dear Child's hair to keep her from looking like Roseanne Rosannadanna, and my friend fell out laughing. She said it showed my age that not only did I know who Roseanne Rosannadanna was, but that I used it in everyday conversation. Golly Gee Willickers, I thought RR was a household name, or that people had at least heard of Grandma Roseanne Roseannadanna's Banana Cake.

Posted by: LostInThought | June 18, 2007 6:25 PM | Report abuse

Stuff on the Internet isn't true???

*tearing hair out*

LaVar will live, so sayeth the TV newsies.


Posted by: Scottynuke | June 18, 2007 6:26 PM | Report abuse

Mothers Day, Fathers Day etc. as a reminder that at least one day a year we should call and remember how special they are, is fine. A little nudging to call your mom or your dad or your kids is never a bad thing.

A day as a marketing gimmick attached to flowers or cards, is just wrong.

So if I forgot to call my dad yesterday, what does this make me, and should I send a card as well as call.

Posted by: dr | June 18, 2007 6:38 PM | Report abuse

Bill Cullen, ha!

I told my kids I had Peter Frampton hair when I was younger, and they just stared at me.

I may just grow it back to see what it looks like all shot through with gray.

Er, maybe not.

Well, I bet Frampton hizownself would be jealous anyway.


Posted by: bc | June 18, 2007 6:40 PM | Report abuse

Hah hah!

Posted by: Nelson Muntz | June 18, 2007 6:58 PM | Report abuse

Just got in. Note to Error Flynn: no Bonneville, no Jovian messages. I think it's Mike Gravel offering otherworldly messages at the moment.

Posted by: Jumper | June 18, 2007 7:08 PM | Report abuse

I hasten to add that I am a resident of Ye Olde Glasse House as well.

Speaking of which...

re Peter Frampton. On the weekend I happened upon the Bee Gees movie version of Sgt Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club. 'nuff said.

Posted by: SonofCarl | June 18, 2007 7:24 PM | Report abuse

Actually, Linus' grandma was
right. Every day is, generally,
childrens' day. End of story.

Posted by: SF Mom | June 18, 2007 7:32 PM | Report abuse

>In any case, we probably ought to dispense with Father's Day and replace it with Children's Day. A day dedicated to kids, whether our own or someone else's. They're the ones who should be glorified and praised and celebrated.<

Father's Day this year was special because it fell on the day after the first time both of our kids had been away from home for a week at camp.

Quite a culture shock for Mr. and Mrs. Everything. Relief mixed with a definite bit of emptiness. Did get to spend some great time together but almost felt guilty which was crazy, of course, because the kids had the time of their lives.

We all went for brunch on Sunday to a popular breakfast stop. The place was packed, of course. Great people watching, imagining the connections of all these tables full of differently composed families.

I loved the kit but I think we need to keep Father's Day for the very reasons Joel petitioned for Children's Day; it forces the male of the species who carefully keeps all emotions carefully hidden to contemplate about the family he is a part of. The mom's don't need a day to do this (which is why we need her day, fabricated or not).

[My very last, I think, Sopranos comment follows.] Could not get that suddenly newly popular Journey song out of mind during the brunch. Kept watching other people at the restaurant in the same way Chase showed the movement of strangers at Holsten's. Fortunately there were no guys sitting alone wearing a cap that said "USA" who shuffled off to the bathroom. I think I'm going to be ok.

Posted by: bill everything | June 18, 2007 8:04 PM | Report abuse

Peter Frampton pretty much shaves his head these days, but he still rocks. I know this because I've seen him on TV recently (Soundstage on PBS) and on a video with Ringo Starr's Fourth All Starr Band (with the fantabulous Jack Bruce and Gary Brooker). I have to confess that I had his album "Frampton Comes Alive". When we were both much younger.

bill e, maybe there will be a support group for recovering Sopranos fans. Sounds like you could use it. (I'm cracking up at the picture in my head of you in the diner!)

Posted by: mostlylurking | June 18, 2007 8:45 PM | Report abuse

What is good parents? and Who is good parents? A lot of money? Supporting their sons and daughters for better education? Being responsible for their children's weekend? When I compare my parents with other parents, I deeply thank my parents for thier passion for our brothers. Eventhough we,our family, is not rich, my parents keep making their many efforts to keep step with other childrens. In many ways, they've tired to make happy home. Of course, it's not easy to do. Not for long, I'll be a father. Like a above article, 'Good fathering' is hard to meet. Smiling always, Happy together !!! My answer for my question will be appeared in my mind !!

Posted by: Young | June 18, 2007 8:46 PM | Report abuse

Stuck in meetings all day today and tomorrow, so limited boodling but here's my tuppence worth:

1) dr, no reason that the string activities should interfere with your reading. One word for you: "audiobooks!" I always listen to stories when I'm working on a crochet project.

2) My Japanese friend says Japan has two days for children: Boys' Day is a national holiday, celebrated by all, people take off from work and give the boys special presents and everybody makes a big fuss. Girls' Day is, well, a day. If she was a little more Americanized, she might add sardonically, "I'm not bitter..."

3) I liked this cartoon about the Sopranos' finale:

4) martooni, forgiveness is a wonderful thing. Accept yours and continue on.

5) Perhaps it is ironic, but studies show that in order to have enormously positive effects on their children, all dads really have to do is just be there. So hurray for dads, everywhere, Superdad or not-so-super, it's all good.

Posted by: kbertocci | June 18, 2007 8:52 PM | Report abuse

Jumper, thanks for the update. I still wonder sometimes where (or if) that guy is. He was certainly sincere.

>thinking behind the "Children's Day"
I thought it meant it would change so they had only ONE day to be pampered and you could work them like dogs and beat them all the rest of the time. Like in the Good Old Days.

Maybe that's why I'm still a bachelor. :-)

Posted by: Error Flynn | June 18, 2007 8:58 PM | Report abuse

I'm happy to report that our son called his dad *today*, finally. Not that we were obsessing about it, but still...Was it Father's Day in Canada, too?

Posted by: mostlylurking | June 18, 2007 9:07 PM | Report abuse

Mostly, Peter Frampton did a concert here about a month ago with the Indianapolis Symphony Orchestra. My wife, who is in the ISO, had to be schooled how, in the world of popular music, he is a bit of an odd phenomenon.

He did sell out. "Do you feel like I do," indeed.

Posted by: bill everything | June 18, 2007 9:10 PM | Report abuse

I saw Lou Dobbs' reaction to Gene W's article (he didn't like it). Pretty funny. I have to admit that when Lou Dobbs starting bashing Bush's policies, that's when I started to watch, and to take heart that it wasn't just us "liberals" that were dissatisfied with the country's direction. I pretty much agree with him on outsourcing - not so much on the illegal immigration issue (frankly, I don't listen to him that much and I'm not really sure what Lou thinks we should do about it).

Posted by: mostlylurking | June 18, 2007 9:15 PM | Report abuse

Toles scored an ace today:

And, arguably, the best satirical use of you know what:

Posted by: bill everything | June 18, 2007 9:19 PM | Report abuse

Cool, bill e! What does your wife play? Did you go to the concert? I had a colleague who also played cello in the symphony orchestra here, and it was interesting to hear his "behind the scenes" takes on that. I was surprised at how well Frampton played, since he had faded from sight for so long. And, oh, the hair.

Posted by: mostlylurking | June 18, 2007 9:22 PM | Report abuse

yellojkt! Make sure to pack plenty of American-made toothpaste!

Posted by: mostlylurking | June 18, 2007 9:25 PM | Report abuse

Thinking of Kiwis, we in Florida have hurricanes. The Legislature and Governor have done there very best to make homeowner windstorm insurance more affordable through a socialistic state insurance company, with the State assuming much of the risk (not to mention providing subsidies). On top of that, the Legislature is also doing its best to starve local governments of property tax revenues. These measures ensure that local governments won't have financial reserves (the notion seems to be that "every penny of reserves is a penny taken away from taxpayers"). There'll also pretty certainly be massive layoffs of police, firefighters, and other emergency responders.

After the next storm (preferably not until after the 2008 election), Congress, seeing this irresponsibility, will finally let a large, prosperous state take care of its own predictable, semi-routine bad weather not conduct a bailout. The locals can raise taxes, default on bond issues, etc.

Now for the Kiwis. New Zealand has volcanoes and earthquakes. I suspect NZ has done the best it can to ensure the country won't go under when something nasty happens.

Posted by: Dave of the Coonties | June 18, 2007 9:25 PM | Report abuse

Mostly, I didn't go and did my usual "Symphony dad" duty (now that the kids are older we are going more often to concerts, however).

My wife does not suffer musical fools quietly and was quite complimentary about Frampton's playing. I had to explain, however, that there were a few guys in the rock pantheon that might go in front of him.

It's been quite interesting; I knew little about classical music when we met; her popular musical interests when we met included The Carpenters (really; totally inexplicable) and Barbara Streisand.

To her, the Rolling Stones, Bruce Springsteen, Bob Seger etc. are just indistinguishable and she couldn't tell me, other than maybe famous Beatles' songs, who is on popular rock radio at any time. I hear one note and know the entire song. I have gotten her to admit that she is beginning to understand the Dylan thing. I also have gotten her to like Emmylou Harris (because you cannot listen to Emmylou Harris and not be in awe; I mean, I knew I would win that one) and Alison Krauss.

The latest effort of the ISO last Friday was doing the music of Led Zeppelin with a rock band outdoors at White River State Park (I am not making this up).

I deeply appreciated the rich incongruity this must have created for many orchestra members who have spent their lives honing their craft to play superbly beautiful abstract music. It is symbolic of the state of classical music in America and the desperate attempts by orchestras across the country to somehow attract new audiences. Meanwhile, school corporations in this country are eliminating music programs like never before.

How did this soapbox get under my feet?

Posted by: bill everything | June 18, 2007 9:54 PM | Report abuse

Dave of the Coonties has an interesting slant on the property tax reform measures in Florida. I've just returned from a local town council meeting where the issue was one of many. The town has enjoyed a 70% increase in property tax revenue over the past 5 years, primarily from the real estate "froth" that escalated property values. The town budgeted and spent every dime of the windfall and tonight the town attorney said he would resign unless his fee was basically tripled in the next budget, going from a flat hourly rate to a minimum retainer and then doubling of the hourly rate. The only way to rein in profligate government spending is limiting revenue. The legislative property tax changes are not perfect - many homeowners with homestead property values under $200,000 may see an increase in their taxable value, but those over that base will see a significant decrease. The voters will decide in January.

Posted by: Shiloh | June 18, 2007 10:16 PM | Report abuse

We have plenty of toiletries including toothpaste. We were also warned to bring our own toilet paper. We spent a few days trying to find trinkets to give as gifts that weren't made in China. We finally decided on a couple of cases of Jelly Bellys. Made in America. Guaranteed, I've seen it.

Posted by: yellojkt | June 18, 2007 10:19 PM | Report abuse

Thanks, bill. The orchestra here does similar things to get the audience in. I've only been to a couple of symphony concerts myself, in all these years. The only time I've been in the beautiful new symphony hall was when Bob Newhart performed. I was glad that they had a small group from the orchestra play a jazz set, so I could hear the acoustics. One of the performers they had last year around Christmas was Emmy Lou, who is wonderful.

My praying mantises have hatched! I had to rescue the egg case the other day when my husband pruned the rose bush it was in and threw the branches in the yard waste bin. Luckily it was on top, so I put it in the butterfly bush. They are about a quarter inch long, and you can see their triangular heads, and antennae, and little folded up forearms. There are a bunch of them - hope they do ok.

Posted by: mostlylurking | June 18, 2007 10:21 PM | Report abuse

Mostlylurking, it was *Canadian Fathers' Day* yesterday.

Posted by: Yoki | June 18, 2007 10:22 PM | Report abuse

Busy weekend full of family finally over and I just finished washing the kitchen floor and doing 3 loads of laundry. The grandchildren met each other for the first time. After some initial territorial issues by my granddaughters, which manifested themselves in shyness, a mini pout and a whispered "when are they leaving?" from the younger one, the children got along well. A good day for the dads as well.

Slyness, what beautiful pictures, so pretty in those mountains. Martooni, as others have said, just get back on the horse and start riding. I learned a lot from my slip and I'm sure you will too.

I'm too tired to back boodle any more tonight.

Posted by: Bad Sneakers | June 18, 2007 10:27 PM | Report abuse

A local bank had an ad saying if you dine in a few selected restaurants in town on Father's Day (Sunday) and charge your meal with your platinum card, they'll reimburse you B$50 (US$33). That sounds like a great deal. I suppose they made that offer cuz they know there are not that many platinum card holders.

Read something interesting about the Amazon. "Z" sounds incredibly painful.

Posted by: rain forest | June 18, 2007 10:30 PM | Report abuse

rain forest, that is incredibly funny. Sort of like the Casper Gustly Tinies, only for real.

Posted by: Y | June 18, 2007 10:42 PM | Report abuse

I killed the Boodle. Killded it dead, I did.

Posted by: Yoki | June 18, 2007 11:34 PM | Report abuse

It's just resting Yoki. It's been a long day. How's the cookbook going?

I finally managed to post a few pictures. The Puppy is featured as well as the Old Dog. For those suffering from the heat and humidity please note that snow is featured in a few pictures for a few seconds of relief. There is a rat, a slimy creature, a spider, a spineless vertebrate and flying raccoons as well.
I didn't think about reducing the size of the pics before posting the first few pics, so peeps with slow connection be advised.

Posted by: Shrieking Denizen | June 18, 2007 11:45 PM | Report abuse

Shrieking, thank you. And may I say, that Croque is such a puupy-baby? So so sweet. And poor old lab-person. Well done, sir. Well done.

Posted by: Yoki | June 18, 2007 11:50 PM | Report abuse

Oh! The cookbook is good, just fine. I need another couple/three weeks to proof it, and finish testing the instructions. But I think it will be salable by end-July. Or thereabouts. Roughly speaking.

It has been so much fun to do this. You have no idea.

Posted by: Yoki | June 18, 2007 11:53 PM | Report abuse

Goodnight, Boodle.


Posted by: bc | June 18, 2007 11:57 PM | Report abuse

Thanks Yoki. We enjoy the cuteness factor of the puppy while it last. The Pup's father weighs in at 145lbs and has the largest dog's head ever sitting on top of its neck. Stately and nice but the cuteness is gone. Here's Dad.

Posted by: Shrieking Denizen | June 18, 2007 11:57 PM | Report abuse

g'night bc.

g'night puppy-boy dogue de bordeaux.

The Little Dog Tray!

Posted by: Yoki | June 19, 2007 12:00 AM | Report abuse

dr, pocket reactors would lend new meaning to the phrase "hot pants."

Okay, time to back-boodle some more.

Sometimes a father's day has extra meaning. A friend of mine is confronting the fact that her father may not live much longer, and she was saying "my god, it was such a good day, the family together and all."

And sometimes that's what matters-- being together. Not the super-dad awards.

No father is appreciated until the kid is at least 25 and/or realizes that being an adult and/or raising kids was tougher than they thought. So yeah, you're basically teaching the kids to fake appreciation and show affection-- so when they do feel it, they won't be caught flatfooted how to show it.

Posted by: Wilbrod | June 19, 2007 12:14 AM | Report abuse

Florida's been lucky in not having a city-busting hurricane since 1992 or even earlier, if you consider that Andrew largely spared central and northern Miami-Dade County. Charley (combined with torrential rain from later storms) was horrific, but Punta Gorda, Port Charlotte, Arcadia, Lake Wales, and the flooded ranches just aren't big metro areas. by the way, the ability of local ranchers to move their cattle out of flooded pastures was impressive. Those families tend to remember lessons from long-ago disasters.

Florida has responded reasonably effectively to recent hurricanes, unless maybe you count the power utility, FPL. But the major urban counties--Miami-Dade, Broward, Palm Beach, Hillsborough, Pinellas, and now perhaps Lee and Collier too, need to be financially healthy and adequately staffed to cope with major disruptions. Same goes for the state government.

I admit to being a big beneficiary of property tax increase limits, thanks to being in the same place for seven years.

The town where live depends on upscale winter residents, so it's essential that the place look safe and attractive, maintain the boat ramps and marina, provide lifeguards and safe bathrooms at the beaches, and support cultural attractions (which blessedly thrive on private funding). There's also problems with cleaning up the local waterway, the public hospital that seems to be going under, and a neighborhood, just outside of city limits, that has to be pumped dry after rains. Our own baby New Orleans. And judicious undergrounding of power lines to make the system more reliable (something I appreciate). All of this stuff requires money.

A former city manager assures me that he was a tightwad and that the city's still pretty thrifty--but he doesn't trust the county!

Posted by: Dave of the Coonties | June 19, 2007 12:16 AM | Report abuse

Thanks, Yoki! Glad to hear of the cookbook progress (how to explain, though? Here are recipes from my imaginary friends!)

SD, great pictures. Love the horses and I assume one of your daughters - of course, it's muddy. The cat is wonderful - right on the edge, but so relaxed. And the peonies - fabulous - mine are nowhere as exotic as those.

Goodnight, everyone.

Posted by: mostlylurking | June 19, 2007 12:18 AM | Report abuse

Since I'm a lone voice in the post-midnight wilderness, one of my memorable father's days was when I was at camp and my dad sent me a lovely card for father's day saying he was proud to have a talented "Ultimate Pet" like me.

Posted by: Wilbrod | June 19, 2007 12:27 AM | Report abuse

The offer has been accepted. The house will be ours, if we can pay for it, and unload the old house. Now the *really* scary part begins.

Posted by: ScienceTim | June 19, 2007 12:29 AM | Report abuse

Since I'm a lone voice in the post-midnight wilderness, I might as well boodlehog a bit.

A memorable father's day once was when I was at camp and my dad sent me a lovely card for father's day saying he was proud to have a talented "Ultimate Pet" like me. The card was also dead-on-- very nature-based sketching.

This morning I provided the pops with some amusement while my grandma gave my first knitting lesson-- How to do the casting on stitch. Her style differed from the book, and apparently she kept saying "backwards! No! Under, not over!" repeatedly upon deaf ears.

I suggested it'd go easier if we had separate knitting needles so I could follow every move as she made it, rather than trying to see the whole sequence and then recreate it from memory. I think she showed me around 40 times before I finally got the cast-on.

Man, I sure do have sympathy for Wilbrodog suffering through some of my early training efforts. Tomorrow I buy extra knitting needles for the future lessons-- if any arrive.

My grandma did make a comment that when they were girls, they had to practice 2 hours a day knitting. That makes sense to me-- I nearly put in the same amount of practice drawing as a kid daily, too.

You don't develop talent just by sitting around and priding yourself on the little you can already do "without training."

Posted by: Wilbrod | June 19, 2007 12:34 AM | Report abuse

Wilbrod, I found the boodle! It's not dead! Tell me, am I am GOOD or not?

HEY! "Kids are poorly trained service animals who will demand your keys one day??"

How dare you-- hmm. Now my ear's throughly scratched, I reckon I can't really disagree on that. Especially the training point.
You ever smell some of those little diapered kids out there? Whoo, that's what I call advertising far and wide.

Posted by: Wilbrodog | June 19, 2007 12:41 AM | Report abuse

Woo hoo, Tim - that's exciting and scary, all at the same time!

I'm proud to say that I *did* get my hair cut today. And bought yarn.

Wilbrod, that's great that you're learning to knit. I taught myself from a book, when I was a teenager, and remember being very frustrated and in tears. Somehow I managed to figure it out - but there are lots of different ways to knit, so it can be confusing. Good luck!

Posted by: mostlylurking | June 19, 2007 12:43 AM | Report abuse

Live demos are MUCH more useful, mostly.

My interest was to develop a hobby that, once mastered, I can do without using my eyes as much as if I were reading, or almost anything else, so I can relax if my eyes aren't feeling the best.

I can get sinus-based migraines from excess sun exposure and other triggers.

The end result is that on some days after a long day at the PC or whatever, I need to take my eyes offline completely-- and I find myself in a quandry-- I don't feel sleepy, but there's not much I CAN do other than pet or play with Wilbrodog.

Knitting always looked relaxing, although now I'm not so sure ;).

Posted by: Wilbrod | June 19, 2007 12:57 AM | Report abuse

Congrats on the house Tim and I am sure that help make it a memorable birthday for you.

I just got home from work and tonight must be Owl night. I saw two in flight on my ride home and I have been frequented by a screech owl living nearby my house. He just let out his screech as I sat down at the computer. If you have ever heard one before, it is a very cool scream. But I think he was welcoming me home.

Posted by: greenwithenvy | June 19, 2007 1:04 AM | Report abuse

Best wishes with the scary stuff.

The Post has a story on kids not liking to be outdoors. Sad. I had a sort of Calvin-and-Hobbes childhood, followed by, among other things, getting paid to roam around an entire Wyoming basin and some of the neighboring mountains. Wandering into a sage grouse nest or an undescribed wild carrot just isn't like watching nature on TV.

Posted by: Dave of the Coonties | June 19, 2007 1:34 AM | Report abuse

When I was in my teens my sister taught me knitting. I could go straight but don't know how to corner. I never learned how to corner cuz my sister is someone you don't want to ask more than twice. Knitting is quite fun, therapeutic.

Posted by: rain forest | June 19, 2007 1:50 AM | Report abuse

I wonder whether knitting might be one of those super-ancient, basic human technologies, like making stone tools, boats, baskets, and nets.

Posted by: Dave of the Coonties | June 19, 2007 2:14 AM | Report abuse

Yes, New Zealand has the earthquakes commission that will shell out if your house disappers down a crevasse or gets buried by lava. However, I'm sure if most of Wellington fell into the sea, which is a definite possiblity, your replacement house would be located in Palmerston North, the armpit of New Zealand, which, although damp and windy, doesn't suffer too badly from earthquakes... although it's only a few 100 kilometres from Mt Ruapheu, which last errupted in 1997, completely ruining the ski season, oh yeah, and covered everything in poisonous ash.

Posted by: Kiwi | June 19, 2007 2:28 AM | Report abuse

In 1980, I managed to wangle an unpaid 2 weeks off in the middle of a busy summer so I could take in a big ecology and evolution congress at the beautiful University of British Columbia. I carefully planned my trip to include a visit to Mt St Helens, which it seemed would be less overrun by tourists than Mt Rainier. The hiking guidebook arrived. Then the mountain blew up. We got an impressive ash shower and I got to see the mess in Washington State barely a month after it had fallen. Rainier was lovely. The glacier lilies were flowering a month early.

Yellowstone National Park looked a bit different on the way back.

Now if we could relocate beach dwellers to western Jacksonville. . .

Posted by: Dave of the Coonties | June 19, 2007 2:44 AM | Report abuse

Inner-city creep-- so many problems that show up in the inner cities first eventually creep out to the rest of society.

I am very concerned about the near-extinguishment of animals in everyday urban life, other than roaches, rats, pigeons, and sparrows. While those animals do have their interest, it's not an interest encouraged by parents.

Even dogs are being put under increasingly strict restrictions. It's a shame, because I think dogs are a good way to get yourself outside and learning more about your backyard-- there's nothing like a dog's nose poking everywhere to lead you to unconsidered places.

India-- you see animals all over leading their lives. It has its charms. I've always wondered what would happen if you let the jungle reclaim its own in American cities, a la Kipling.

It would make a nice movie anyway.

Posted by: Wilbrod | June 19, 2007 2:53 AM | Report abuse

When I lived in Portland, the Eastmoreland golf course
had nutria, beavers, lots of ducks and geese, and an effort was being made to restore the historic salmon run up the creek to Crystal Springs. This, in a part of town that's been more or less urbanized for a century.

Here, black racers seem to be the most persistent of larger urban snakes. Regrettably, I'm sure lots of yards have been stripped of everything but grass for fear of snakes. Joel obviously didn't grow up in that kind of situation.

Posted by: Dave of the Coonties | June 19, 2007 3:19 AM | Report abuse

\\I wonder whether knitting might be one of those super-ancient, basic human technologies, like making stone tools, boats, baskets, and nets.

Could be, Dave. Could be. All you need is 2 twigs and some jute.

Posted by: rain forest | June 19, 2007 3:30 AM | Report abuse

Morning all!! *glad-we're-past-Monday Grover waves*

Congrats, Tim!!! *Snoopy dances*

Shriek, delightful pics, and I'm sure that pup's gonna be a handful!


Posted by: Scottynuke | June 19, 2007 4:41 AM | Report abuse

Good mornin' everybody! Hey Cassandra!

Wonderful news on the house, Tim! Good luck with selling the old one. We look forward to hearing all about the move and the redecorating of the new. (I've never moved into a house that I didn't hate the previous owners' taste and have to do major cosmetic work.)

Sneaks, hope you and S rested well. I'll bet it was quite the weekend!

SD, loved the photos. Hope you will chronicle the puppy's growing up and share with us.

Kids not going outside? Hmmm...Although I grew up in the city, I spent large amounts of time outside, in the yard and in the park, which was about three blocks away. My kids were in daycare but their teachers took them to the park. They also had plenty of of time on the playground. Does that count?

Posted by: Slyness | June 19, 2007 7:25 AM | Report abuse

Sadness in S.C., Slyness... :-(

Posted by: Scottynuke | June 19, 2007 7:31 AM | Report abuse

Mornin' all...

Got a busy day ahead but wanted to say "thanks" for all the support. I fessed up to Mrs. M. and my sponsor -- nobody had a clue I was off the wagon this weekend, so it came as a bit of a surprise to them. In other words, I could have gotten away with it. But I gotta be able to look myself in the mirror. In any case, I'm firmly strapped in today and feeling much more human sans hangover.

Peace out...


Posted by: martooni | June 19, 2007 7:46 AM | Report abuse

Good for you Martooni, fessing up cleanses the soul and puts you back on track. Sort of rested but already looking forward to the weekend. Awful news from South Carolina, reminds me of the six firefighters lost in Worcester, MA in 1999. The wounds there are still deep.

Posted by: Bad Sneakers | June 19, 2007 8:05 AM | Report abuse

One day at a time, martooni. :-)

Sneaks, I bet it would have been cute if you'd had dueling grandkids, each trying to be cuter than the other... *L*

Posted by: Scottynuke | June 19, 2007 8:09 AM | Report abuse

S'nuke, thankfully the ages, 8, 6, 3 and 1 make them all very cute in their own ways. I'm very pleased that there wasn't any overt jealously! And I did speak to mine yesterday to compliment them on how nice they were to the younger ones.

Posted by: Bad Sneakers | June 19, 2007 8:16 AM | Report abuse


Someone has obviously taught them well... ;-)

Posted by: Scottynuke | June 19, 2007 8:20 AM | Report abuse

martooni, early this morning I was thinking about the courage it took for you to 'fess up. Well done.

Tim, congrats on the new place and best of luck selling the old one.

Slyness, I heard the sad news from S.C. and immediately thought of you and the sadness this brings to the firefighter community.

The kids in my neighborhood apparently didn't get the memo about not playing outdoors. Especially in the nice weather, they're outside playing ball and generally running amok. Makes me smile.

Posted by: Raysmom | June 19, 2007 8:42 AM | Report abuse

Slyness, our problem with the taste of the previous owners is that it is much better than ours. I fear we will be unworthy of this very nice house.

Posted by: ScienceTim | June 19, 2007 8:59 AM | Report abuse

Whoa, terrible tragedy in Charleston, indeed. Thanks for the heads-up, S'nuke, I am just back from my walk and hadn't seen the news. I wonder if the building had a bowtruss roof, which are notorious for failing suddenly and catastrophically in fires. In the picture from CNN, the facade looked new, but you never know.

Posted by: Slyness | June 19, 2007 9:02 AM | Report abuse

Paula Cole after an 8 year break has a new album out:

Posted by: omni | June 19, 2007 9:05 AM | Report abuse

SciTim, I'm sure the house will gladly accept a ScienceMotif or StorytellerMotif. Maybe even a RomanticMotif if you're inclined.

Or perhaps a SpouseMotif is in order?


Posted by: Scottynuke | June 19, 2007 9:06 AM | Report abuse

Morning all...

I, too, thought of Slyness when I heard of the firefighers dying in South Carolina. Funny what imaginary friends can do for you, isn't it? Made me feel connected to those folks in Charleston--through an imaginary friend in Charlotte!

Martooni... good for you. We're proud of you here... your efforts and your successes. We really are.

Dave o' the C... I laughed when I saw your comment about New Zealand probably knows how to keep from going under. I thought they WERE under?

Long day ahead for me today. Monthly editorial deadline today that often goes into the wee hours. Then up tomorrow to catch a 6 am bus for a day trip to NYC to see "Curtains."

Posted by: TBG | June 19, 2007 9:07 AM | Report abuse

'Morning, Boodle. Pretty good Anne Applebaum column about cliches in language, and especially in politics, at

I started to read Richard Cohen's piece about why Scooter Libby shouldn't go to jail, got through the first graf, knew I was just gonna get angry, so stopped. I don't wanna know how it turned out, so if you read it, don't tell me.

Posted by: Anonymous | June 19, 2007 9:18 AM | Report abuse

Looks like we could see a new kind of "Tysons Towers" soon...

Posted by: Scottynuke | June 19, 2007 9:18 AM | Report abuse

Alright, I don't know who else to ask but the boodle:

Does it mean anything when there's a vulture in your garbage?

Last night was the first in about four days that I actually got enough sleep to dream and it was pretty wacky and felt good. But I'm fairly sure I was awake when I saw this bad boy and started giving him grief from the kitchen window. He did not go easily.

Are there any shamans in the audience?

Posted by: Error Flynn | June 19, 2007 9:22 AM | Report abuse

What HAVE you been doing with the groundhog insurgents, Error??? *L*

Posted by: Scottynuke | June 19, 2007 9:24 AM | Report abuse

Vultures: 'Nature's flying garbage disposers'

Posted by: omni | June 19, 2007 9:28 AM | Report abuse

The vulture spotted you as a real man-food guy EF. Vulture don't have much use for vegans' garbage.

Posted by: shrieking denizen | June 19, 2007 9:34 AM | Report abuse

I know this is off-topic, but I just need to vent a bit. Have you heard the radio commercials that began running recently about the gas shortages in the 1970's? There are two of them--one sponsered by the oil companies, and one is sponsored by the "SUV Owners of America". They both essentially are saying "Don't mess with the fuel economy rules for cars, or we will wind up with gas lines like we did back in the '70's. Oh and by the way, people die in smaller, fuel-efficient cars when the run into big cars." I just want to scream and shout at them that it's baloney. The gas lines had nothing to do with the CAFE rules--it was the oil embargo by OPEC. And we now have available safe, fuel-efficient vehicles (see, Toyota Prius; Ford Explorer hybrid, etc.). Joel, if you're looking in, maybe somebody needs to holler louder about this.

Posted by: ebtnut | June 19, 2007 9:40 AM | Report abuse

SCC: ...when they run into..

Posted by: ebtnut | June 19, 2007 9:41 AM | Report abuse

Just got a note from the husband about the Charleston tragedy. He heard that when the officer in the building called mayday he followed up by saying to Command, tell my wife that I love her.

Posted by: Slyness | June 19, 2007 9:42 AM | Report abuse

ebtnut, I was umbraging about that stupid ad yesterday...

*steam from ears*

Can we say "fearmongering," folks?

Slyness, that's heart-wrenching... :-(

Posted by: Scottynuke | June 19, 2007 9:46 AM | Report abuse

As a relatively new FL homeowner I can't speak with much authority on the new property tax plans. However, I do wish the FL media would spend more time talking to economists and government officials from other states that have been down this road. California is a wonderful example of the law of unintended consequences.

Posted by: frostbitten | June 19, 2007 9:47 AM | Report abuse

Happy Juneteenth

Posted by: omni | June 19, 2007 9:47 AM | Report abuse

The constellation Lyra (Lyre) was originally a vulture and was among the 12 labors of Heracles in Greek mythology. In the February issue of Smithsonian "The Vanishing" states "...perhaps the most dramatic decline of a wild animal in history has been taking place in India and Pakistan. Large vultures, vitally necessary and once numbering in the tens of millions, now face extinction. But why?"

Maybe thet are migrating to New Jersey.

Posted by: Shiloh | June 19, 2007 9:52 AM | Report abuse

Howdy y'all.

Error, the vulture was shopping.

Martooni, know you know why they say confession is good for the soul. We're with you.

There is outside, and then there is outside. As a child I felt deprived because I seldom got to play on playground equipment. We lived on an acreage, and I played outside all the time -- finding bugs and animals and turtles and bones and going down to the creek, making swords out of flowers, catching fireflies -- but there were no swings! Or slide! I've tried to keep this in mind while raising the Boy in the same place. When he was little we went to the park all the time, so he could play with other kids on the cool stuff. As he grows older he is more interested in the outside we have.

Posted by: Ivansmom | June 19, 2007 9:59 AM | Report abuse

Frostbitten: If you haven't already discovered them, I recommend the web sites "Online Sunshine," "My Florida" and "" for current news on what's happening in the legislature, state agencies and the governor's office.

Posted by: Shiloh | June 19, 2007 10:02 AM | Report abuse

>The vulture spotted you as a real man-food guy EF.

Ah, thanks that makes me feel better. Must have been my efforts at making a good shore-style Italian sausage.

>What HAVE you been doing with the groundhog insurgents, Error??? *L*

Scotty I'm afraid I'm not at liberty to go into that too much lest I lose the children's market and hear from Homeland Security again. But I was talking to my neighbor the other day and he said they're now going into his yard because I eh, made things a little uncomfortable where they were. (They decamped to my garage - not what I intended.)

"You must be slipping, there was a big one and three smaller ones".

"Yeah, but the day before there were six of 'em."

As I heard a cop once say "Ever go fishing? Ever get 'em all?"

Posted by: Error Flynn | June 19, 2007 10:08 AM | Report abuse

In Florida, there is a sort of ban on discussing how things are done in other states. It has to do with dislike of being lectured by recent transplants on how things were done "up north." The California property tax mess was ignored when "Save Our Homes" was enacted to ensure that residents wouldn't be forced to move to escape rising taxes. Now of course some of those homeowners would actually like to move, but find that they'd suddenly be paying far higher taxes.

This tax deal discrimitates against renters, obviously.

Posted by: Dave of the Coonties | June 19, 2007 10:09 AM | Report abuse

Trying to catch up a bit:

1) Congratulations, TBG, on your son's graduation.

2) And congrats to the many guises of Tim and family for the new house. I hope everything goes well. And happy birthday wishes, too.

3) Did Loomis go to the Spurs celebration in San Antonio?

4) Hang in there, Martooni. It's good to see the counter start up again so soon.

5) Very nice to see you again, kurosawaguy.

6) bill everything, what does your wife play in the orchestra?

Posted by: pj | June 19, 2007 10:10 AM | Report abuse

One of my officemates just had us all laughing. Somebody had sent her an e-mail concerning a quote from NY Congressman Charlie Rangle (House Ways and Means Committee), who said something to the effect of "President Bush has finally shattered the myth of White Supremacy." We thought that was great.

Posted by: Curmudgeon | June 19, 2007 10:18 AM | Report abuse

Now there is a day that I wouldn't mind celebrating. I like that.

Wilbord, keep working on it. Try They have vidoes. A stalled video on a wonky internet connection made me see the light of what I do versus how most instructions are written. Check out the combination knitting videos. Your over, not under controversy sounds just like that.

Posted by: dr | June 19, 2007 10:19 AM | Report abuse

Dave: Florida taxes have always discriminated against renters. Renters of six months or less not only pay pass through property taxes, but sales tax as well It's a good way of assuring that the states 45 to 50 million annual visitors pay a share of the tax burden. A proposal to base long term rental property taxes on income does not appear to have survived the special session on tax reform. However, current tax law does allow local assesors the option of income-based property values for businesses.

Posted by: Shiloh | June 19, 2007 10:20 AM | Report abuse

Anyone who follows the Redskins knows this will not end well... :-O

'Mudge, that's great!!! *L*

Posted by: Scottynuke | June 19, 2007 10:21 AM | Report abuse

Good morning, Boodle.

Martooni, I'm glad to see the (1), dude.
Tomorrow will be (2), and the day after that, (3).

The news about those firefighters in SC *is* very sad.

Re. indoor kids, I don't know if it's a function of the kids themselves, or society as a whole. Don't a greater percentage of us work in offices than people did in past genrations?

How many hours do we spend using out computers for Boodling or surfing the 'net for research, learning, catching up on current events, or for entertainment (standalone and interactive online gaming, etc.)? Also, with hundreds of TV channels showing darn near anything worth watching (and a lot that isn't), do any of us get outside as much as we used to? I know I don't. But I'm trying to change that for myself and for my kids.

When the Couch Potato Revolution comes, it will not be televised. It'll be an online interactive system with the works (live cameras, virtual worlds, interactive media, wired govmenment, messaging, emails, etc.); the world may change at the click of a child's mouse button.

Hmm. This reminds me of a couple of things I wrote last year...

As long as the a/c and the energy holds out, we're fine. If it doesn't, well, take your pick of apocalyptic stories.

Someone might print out that fateful email message, "Pound pastrami, can kraut, six bagels-bring home for Emma."


Posted by: bc | June 19, 2007 10:22 AM | Report abuse

bc, you're quoting from my sci-fi classic, "A Canticle for Curmudgeon."

Posted by: Walter Miller | June 19, 2007 10:38 AM | Report abuse

ebtnut... those oil-company and SUV-supporter ads might not get the slap in the face you're looking for in the Washington Post.

I'm hearing them regularly on WTWP... Washington Post Radio.

Posted by: TBG | June 19, 2007 10:39 AM | Report abuse

Blessed be Leibowitz.

Posted by: yellojkt | June 19, 2007 10:43 AM | Report abuse

"sic transit mundus"

Posted by: Shiloh | June 19, 2007 10:46 AM | Report abuse

Oh, a couple more items:

*Tim, congrats on the new digs. Don't forget those clauses in the legal paperwork.

Mudge, that line is *great*.

About those SUV ads; those folks are not doing themselves any favors with such misleading premeses and incorrect information.

However, as long as any vehicle and owner complies with the DOT and the laws of the US and any pertient local laws (state, county, city, etc.), it's legal. Like guns, motorcycles, and alcohol, it's still a matter of personal choice.

Outlaw SUVs, and only outlaws will have SUVs. But they won't be able to carry them in the waistband of their pants.


Posted by: bc | June 19, 2007 10:57 AM | Report abuse

I have a cold that came in yesterday like a lamb, but taking it easy today.

Loomispouse started to feel gouty as the weekend began, so although Sunday broke cool because of the rains, we didn't hike that morning--as the weather would have been great for it, but went to a very early breakfast at the best breakfast joint in town--everything made from scratch. No Spurs victory celebration either, to answer pj's question.

We came home Sunday from the Magnolia House, got more sleep, and lazed around with the Sunday paper until 11 a.m., when we went swimming. Here's something I wrote yesterday, but needed to run errands and ended up not posting it to the Boodle:

Loomisspouse and I were swimming yesterday around 11 a.m. and it started to pour. The couldn't remember if we had ever swum in our community pool in the rain before. But we had swum in the rain on my birthday back in May in a large, natural pool of a stream that is a feeder to the Sabinal, but to say more would mean having to explain the frog symphony and the fact that we had gone hiking with little gear. My birthday suit sufficed, and if a pair of young hikers hadn't come around a bend, my husband would have donned his birthday suit, too, rather than keep his boxers on.

Yesterday's rain was cold and heavy and it made bubbles all over the pool's surface--the largest bubble bath I've ever taken. The rain falling in May on the large pool under the limestone bluff made thousands of little diamonds of light dance on the water's surface.

But having idle time in the Olympic-sized pool and having the place to ourselves at that moment, we discussed what a grand idea it would be to have Parents" Day (Mother's Day and Father's Day combined) or Family Days. Lumped together, two consecutive days in a row, say sometime in the summer, bumped next to a weekend, declared a national holiday. That way, families (however they are comprised) could spend four days of some real family time together, really go somewhere, practice family values (whatever yours might be) as a unit *l*, and more deeply involve the tourism and transportation industries in the event, as well as possibly the restaurant and lodging industries.

My husband stayed in bed on Sunday afternoon, reviewing texts for a phone interview that took place yesterday for a data storage position with Wachovia. The interview didn't go well--my husband's skill set not a match for the position.

But as we were preparing dinner, we watched the Spurs river parade on television. The River Walk was very full of enthusiastic, even rabid supporters, many weird outfits and headgear and haircuts, banners and signs, and some confetti. Fans had been advised not to drive downtown but to caravan into the central part of the city on VIA buses that been put into service to handle the crowds. The great fear was that the rains would wash out the river parade, but the skies were clear by then.

The Alamodome presentation, which began at 9 p.m., culminated the evening's festivities. The Alamodome holds 55,000 people, and the crowd that turned out on Sunday for the Spurs rally at the Dome was estimated to be 45,000! Placido Domingo, the Mexican opera star who hails from Madrid, sang "The Star-Spangled Banner,"--the great hit from the War of 1812--to kick off the Sunday night Spurs gala. The mayor's wife's stepfather was formerly the New York Times correspondent to Madrid, so the pair--Domingo and Linda Hardberger-- have something in common.

Placido performs tonight for a box office of 11,000 at the Alamodome--"intimate seating" it's called, not sure if every last ticket for tonight has been sold. Again, this would be a fun event to attend, I think, I never having never seen opera performed live before. It's been reported that people are flying in from out of state, and Placido plans to include some ranchera tunes and zarzuela in his repertoire--for local appeal. Speaking of opera, did anyone see NBC News last night about the winner of England's "American Idol," Paul Potts? Incredible!

I was much surprised to open the front page of our local paper today and see a picture of a chachalaca right below the banner. The bird--subject of a previous Boodle discussion--is one of three critters featured prominently, more on the inside pages, that might be either threatened or endangered if the immigration fence is built along the Texas-Mexico border. The title of the article is "An Endangered Species Runs Through It."

Found a fascinating book on Sunday, when out buying potatoes for Sunday night's dinner, "The Darkest Jungle." Interesting indirect connection to Edward Beale McLean, former owner of the Washington Post. When my sniffles disappear, will work on trying to determine if I really am invited to an early breakfast on Saturday morning at Camp Verde celebrating a little bit more of Texas history assocated with the camel corps.

Long post, but in all likelihood, the only one from me in three days.

Posted by: Loomis | June 19, 2007 10:58 AM | Report abuse

A Canticle for Jon Stewart?

Posted by: omni | June 19, 2007 10:58 AM | Report abuse

SCC: "An Ecosystem Runs Through It."

Posted by: Loomis | June 19, 2007 11:04 AM | Report abuse

The chapters for "Canticle for Curmudgeon"

I: Fiat Sententia
II: Fiat Scriptor
II: Fiat Erratum
III: Fiat Effugio
IV: Fiat Quiesco


Posted by: bc | June 19, 2007 11:08 AM | Report abuse

Quiz of the day...


"But at night I'm a
Junk Food Junkie
Good Lord have mercy on me."


Posted by: Scottynuke | June 19, 2007 11:13 AM | Report abuse

Or perhaps a little more in line for this crowd...


(slightly ashamed at scoring so low)


Posted by: Scottynuke | June 19, 2007 11:17 AM | Report abuse

I missed the Dejah Thoris question. I won't say how many I guessed on but I must just have grokked the tougher questions.

Posted by: yellojkt | June 19, 2007 11:29 AM | Report abuse

8/10 for the fast food quiz.

As for the second quiz, I refuse to answer on the grounds that it could incriminate me. And I'm not going to say how long it took me to complete.


Posted by: bc | June 19, 2007 11:32 AM | Report abuse

Chapters for "Canticle fo bc"
I Fiat Topolino
II Fiat 127
and of course
III Fiat Spider

ps. *trust me to pickup the low-hanging fruit*

Posted by: shrieking denizen | June 19, 2007 11:32 AM | Report abuse

Hillary's announced her campaign song. Bill Everything will love the video announcement...

But Boko999 will hate the song choice.

Posted by: TBG | June 19, 2007 11:33 AM | Report abuse

Having done so well on US state flags, I am compelled to step up and admit the SF quiz result:


I clearly need to get out less


Posted by: SonofCarl | June 19, 2007 11:37 AM | Report abuse

>Fiat Erratum

bc, speaking of Fiats someone at work is selling an '86 X 1/9 with 45k on it for $4k. I've seen the car, it looks pretty nice. Must be a measure of my dream deficiency that I've actually considered it.

I'm really thinking of my niece who will otherwise get a 12 yr old Accord with 190k, but I'm not sure this would be a good thing to do to my poor brother-in-law. He suffers so much as it is...

Posted by: Error Flynn | June 19, 2007 11:37 AM | Report abuse

I got 8 of whatever on the junk food quiz (and I knew Darth Vader's light saber was red). Let me briefly rant about high fructose corn syrup, which is in virtually everything. I read labels in order to avoid it, but it is increasingly difficult to do so. I also preach its evils to the Boy. I began weaning the Boy from Sunny D, which I fondly believed to be an orange juice drink, when I realized it is really high fructose corn syrup. Did you know that bottled Gatorade relies on high fructose corn syrup, while the powdered variety does not? Next time you shop for salad dressing, read the label. You'll be startled at the number containing high fructose corn syrup.

Oh yes, and congratulations HouseTim on your upcoming adventure.

Posted by: Ivansmom | June 19, 2007 11:38 AM | Report abuse

8/10 on the junk food quiz. clearly I know more science fiction than empty calories.

Posted by: yellojkt | June 19, 2007 11:47 AM | Report abuse

9/11 on SciFi, aced junk food. That says something.

Posted by: Anonymous | June 19, 2007 11:50 AM | Report abuse

"You and I..." means Hillary will get the space cadet vote.

Posted by: Shiloh | June 19, 2007 11:59 AM | Report abuse

And probably the glaucoma test pilot vote.

Posted by: Shiloh | June 19, 2007 12:00 PM | Report abuse

Oh dear heavens. I'll have some trouble with this song.

However, note how much more relaxed she looks on her terms in the video? Bang on. Casual but still very her, funny even if she is the straight man.

Ditto what Ivansmom says about high fructose corn syrup. Get that out of our food and you accomplish something.

Posted by: dr | June 19, 2007 12:11 PM | Report abuse

Hey, don't knock Polysorbate 80. Man, that stuff gets ya flying. Although my favorite additive is still "Glycerol Ester of Wood Rosin."

Posted by: RD Padouk | June 19, 2007 12:14 PM | Report abuse

8's on both.

Really cool article in Metro today:

And this one about 'Plasma Pong':

Posted by: omni | June 19, 2007 12:21 PM | Report abuse

Ethanol production may put a dent in the corn syrup market, which means the price of junk food will be going up. That is not such a bad thing.

Posted by: Shiloh | June 19, 2007 12:21 PM | Report abuse

10/10 on the junk food. Answered (guessed) on 4 of the scifi questions, then threw my hands in the air.

I get Websensed on anything video. What's the song?

Posted by: Raysmom | June 19, 2007 12:25 PM | Report abuse

Bill didn't inhale, but we haven't heard any absurd denials from Shrillary. I'd like to know what drugs she is on. Whatever she says it's sure to be a lack of pies.

Posted by: Pop Socket | June 19, 2007 12:30 PM | Report abuse

A 36,000 watt simulated sunbeam running 24/7 makes you wonder who's paying NISTs power bill. Makes taxpayers want to holler "turn off the light" when you leave a room.

Posted by: Shiloh | June 19, 2007 12:30 PM | Report abuse

"You and I..." by Celine Dion

Posted by: omni | June 19, 2007 12:40 PM | Report abuse

Perhaps NIST could help sponsor this to take care of those 36 kW a day...


Posted by: Scottynuke | June 19, 2007 12:45 PM | Report abuse

Thinking of smallish European cars, I set up Mom's new DVD player over the weekend and inaugurated it with "The Bourne Identity." Some of the car chase seems to have been inspired by the original "Italian Job" where the cute little Mini cars fly in, under, and over Torino--including Fiat's famed rooftop test track. The Italian Job's London crooks also made use of a Land Rover, which reminds me that I shoulda bought a D90 when they were briefly available at a dealer conveniently located between my office and the bento lunch place in Portland. D90s have actually increased in value--would have been a decent investment. Not to mention that D90s were so cool that the local anti-SUV anarchists didn't set fire to them. Anyway, an aging Geo Prizm did nicely. It was so innocent-looking, no one would ever bother it at the beach, despite the surfboard rack.

And thinking of Britons, has anyone read Jeremy Clarkson's auto reviews at the Times (London)?

Posted by: Dave of the Coonties | June 19, 2007 12:46 PM | Report abuse

Scotty: The plug in hybrid article reminded me of the man who said he drove and electric vehicle from New York to LA for only $10 worth of electicity - but the extension cord cost him over a million bucks.

Posted by: Shiloh | June 19, 2007 12:53 PM | Report abuse

Dave: Clarkson's description of Stroud reminds me of what has happened to my home town in SE Florida since I left there almost 40 years ago.

Posted by: Shiloh | June 19, 2007 1:00 PM | Report abuse

Fit or Yaris?

Posted by: RD Padouk | June 19, 2007 1:00 PM | Report abuse

RD... my daughter discovered Glycerol Ester of Wood Rosin in something this weekend. I don't remember what, but your house and mine must be full of the same cra... I mean stuff.

Posted by: TBG | June 19, 2007 1:29 PM | Report abuse

7 out of 10 on the junk food quiz; 8 out of 11 on the sci-fi quize (got lucky on two of them, which is probably better than I scored in college).

I liked that Hillary vid take on the Sopranos. And Johnny Sack glaring at her was terrific.

Posted by: Curmudgeon | June 19, 2007 1:33 PM | Report abuse

Glycerol Ester of Wood Rosin is found in soft drinks containing fruit oils. It is an emulsifier that removes the onerous need to shake the beverage before drinking. It seems to be universally accepted as harmless, but good golly what a name.

Posted by: RD Padouk | June 19, 2007 1:34 PM | Report abuse

Gatorade has it.

Posted by: omni | June 19, 2007 1:36 PM | Report abuse

And Minute Maid Lemonade

Posted by: omni | June 19, 2007 1:38 PM | Report abuse

Heard this quote from Micheline Maynard, auto industry reporter for the NY Times- "Detroit is underestimating its own capabilities." She was referring to their ability to manufacture cars meeting much higher CAFE standards. However, I would contend that the "Oh poor us, Americans want to drive these enormous gas guzzlers" underestimates the industry's ability to drive demand toward what they want to make. First it was light trucks, then when everyone in the world had a Ford Ranger or Chevy S-10 they drove us toward mini-vans. Then they were able to jump on the anti-soccer mom backlash and "mini van" became a perjorative and the SUV with drop down dvd player became the standard family vehicle. They aren't even selling cars, they're selling rolling entertainment/communication center/dining rooms that move from drive through to drive through.

Posted by: frostbitten | June 19, 2007 1:38 PM | Report abuse

Thanks omni.

Do I hear the sound of someone extracting his brain through his nostrils?

Posted by: Raysmom | June 19, 2007 1:51 PM | Report abuse

I misread glycerol as glycol and thought "we're drinking antifreeze?" Which brought to mind this old rhyme:

Little Johnny took a drink, but he shall drink no more/ for what he thought was H2O was H2SO4.

Posted by: Shiloh | June 19, 2007 2:00 PM | Report abuse

An hour ago the WaPo weather page had the temp at 89º, humidity at 52%, and RealFeel® at 101%. My heat index calc put it at 94º.

Now the WaPo weather page has the temp at 91º, humidity at 51%, and RealFeel® at 100%. My heat index calc put it at 97º.

So temp goes up 2º humidity comes down 1% and their RealFeel® comes down 1º...

I'd really like to know how they do their calculations, because they are never right in my opinion.

Posted by: omni | June 19, 2007 2:07 PM | Report abuse

Oil of Vitriol...nasty stuff

Posted by: omni | June 19, 2007 2:10 PM | Report abuse

Here's another Shiloh:

Alas, Poor Sammy, I Knew Him Well, For Sammy Is No More,
For what he thought was H2O was H2SO4.

Posted by: omni | June 19, 2007 2:13 PM | Report abuse

There's a news story that the Chinese are planning to spend almost $20 million to build a road up to the 17,000-foot level of Mt. Everest, to facilitate plans to take the Olympic torch to the top (29,000 feet) as part of next year's Beijing's Games. Let the McDonald's jokes and the onslaught of editorial cartoons begin.

Posted by: Curmudgeon | June 19, 2007 2:40 PM | Report abuse

Read the lyrics to "You and I" and try not to go into diabetic shock.

You and I
Were meant to fly
Higher than the clouds
We'll sail across the sky
So come with me
And you will feel
That we're soaring
That we're floating up so high
'Cause you and I were meant to fly

There haven't been that many drug references in one song since the Byrds broke up.

Ron Paul would legalize HEMP so Shillary can get as high as she wants after she loses the election.

Posted by: Pop Socket | June 19, 2007 2:46 PM | Report abuse

Pop-what is Ru Paul's campaign song? Nothing against Dr. Paul, but I just couldn't help myself with the shout in your 2:46. Good job staying on message but in the slightly off topic way of the boodle.

Might we ask why Pop Socket as a handle? I

I think I like "Way of the Boodle" as a description of the group ethos.

Loomis-just backboodled to your suggestion of a 4 day weekend for a combined Mother's/Father's/Children's/Whatever you make of your family Day. Great idea and better yet if there is some way to completely head off the commercial potential.

Posted by: frostbitten | June 19, 2007 2:55 PM | Report abuse

I think Clarkson would settle for a Suzuki Swallow.

To haul stuff around, Fit.

Part of me would like an FJ, preferably with a winch for authenticity, but there's really not much use for that in an overcrowded state.

Posted by: Dave of the Coonties | June 19, 2007 2:56 PM | Report abuse

sd, what about Fiat Punto?

I read Clarkson when I can, Dan Neil of the LA Times, too.

frosty, the manufacturers are simply engaging in public negotiation on this stuff. They'll build to whatever standards the laws allow, including those nicely appointed rolling living rooms.


Posted by: bc | June 19, 2007 3:00 PM | Report abuse

Would that mean a Ron Paul jones for hemp?

Posted by: Shiloh | June 19, 2007 3:03 PM | Report abuse

we all know how Pop Socket likes to move the first letters of the words he/she types around, so i'm guessing this means: Pocket Sop

Posted by: Anonymous | June 19, 2007 3:06 PM | Report abuse

We're in the mid-range of code orange people, so remember to stay hydrated and only go outside if you have to. There was a woman who fainted in the middle of the street here in downtown Bethesda a short while ago.

Posted by: omni | June 19, 2007 3:09 PM | Report abuse

Dave wrote: "I think Clarkson would settle for a Suzuki Swallow.
...Part of me would like an FJ, preferably with a winch for authenticity, but there's really not much use for that in an overcrowded state."

Dave, we try not to talk smutty here on the Boodle.

Posted by: Curmudgeon | June 19, 2007 3:17 PM | Report abuse

OH YES, we try...and sometimes we try real hard

Posted by: omni | June 19, 2007 3:20 PM | Report abuse

OK, time for me to go wash my mouth um, I mean home...not looking forward to it...Bethesda Metro's AC never seems to be is more humid down there than outside...the bus is always late...Usually over can I read if I can't sit...takes me twice as long to get home as into work...lifes is just so unfair...waaaaa


Posted by: omni | June 19, 2007 3:24 PM | Report abuse

Hillary Clinton has chosen a treacly ballad by Céline Marie Claudette Dion as her campaign song?

Clearly, Senator Clinton forgot to read Omni's warning about proper hydration and has become seriously crazed from the sun.

Posted by: RD Padouk | June 19, 2007 3:30 PM | Report abuse

My wedding song was "You and I" by Eddie Rabbit and Crystal Gayle, so I was very relieved that it was the Celine Dion song instead. Never thought I would be thankful to hear the Canucki Crooner.

Posted by: yellojkt | June 19, 2007 3:32 PM | Report abuse

>and sometimes we try real hard

huh huh Beavis, omni said "hard".

I thought of Pop Socket last night when I opened the cabinet and found a box of Pop Secret popcorn. I thought maybe the handle was just a typo like mine.

I would consider voting for Hillary if I knew she was smoking something. She would have at least one redeeming characteristic.

But otherwise, probably not. It's pretty hard to win when half of your own party hates you. I'm sure many will hold their nose, but I dunno if I could even do that.

Posted by: Error Flynn | June 19, 2007 3:34 PM | Report abuse

As with most of Ms. Dion's songs, all I can say is: gak!!!

Posted by: Raysmom | June 19, 2007 3:37 PM | Report abuse

I'm assuming one can't escape a campaign song. Does this mean I'll finally have to hear a Celine Dion song?

Whatever happened to commissioning a campaign song about the candidate? Remember "Tippecanoe and Tyler Too"? Of course, right now each candidate from all parties is running on "I'm Not George W. Bush", set to your favorite tune.

Posted by: Ivansmom | June 19, 2007 3:43 PM | Report abuse

I like the Punto bc, but the old 127 sprang to my mind. Almost drove a Punto in France a few years back but my colleague insisted on the Clio (insert a T in the name for comical effect). I prefer the 128 but I can't see one without thinking "Lada" so I didn't mention it. An the Topolino is such a classic. This one a '55.

Sometimes it's the main ingredients and not the additives that are the nasty stuff. The concentrate for cola is actually a corrosive dangerous good (Hazardous Material for you Murkins) because of the high concentration of phosphoric acid. This would be the concentrate that makes the cola in the fountain by adding heavily sweetened water carbonated with CO2. The "natural and artificial flavour" mix for the orange drink is a flammable liquid with a corrosive subsidiary i.e. class 3 (8). And there is lutefish and hominy, of course, made from soaking in caustic soda. The stuff we eat and drink oh my...

Corn syrup is a major commodity Ivansmom. The big cola company headquartered in Atlanta rents a large quantity of rail tank cars, all of them dedicated to corn syrup transport. I've seen a new tank car painted like a cola can, the car manufacturer was sucking up to the CC brass I guess after a big contract. Coors (mark CORX) is another that has refrigerated tank car painted like beer cans to transport beer concentrate. Now why do we need beer concentrate?

I have nothing to do with Ms. Dion or her creepy husband, I swear. Neither do I feel responsible for Michael Bublé, Avril Lavigne or William (Tiberius, really?) Shatner.

Posted by: shrieking denizen | June 19, 2007 3:43 PM | Report abuse

It coulda been worse: it coulda been "Stand By Your Man."

Posted by: Curmudgeon | June 19, 2007 3:48 PM | Report abuse

I just thought that some of the Tacoma guest pilot boodlers would appreciate knowing that Ron Paul favors legalizing hemp. Just trying to be relevant and topical and not preachy and screaming.

My anonymous fan: My hoodle bandle is techier than you might think. Let's just say I am a point of light.

Posted by: Pop Socket | June 19, 2007 3:51 PM | Report abuse

Besides, shouldn't campaign songs be party music? You know, something with a good beat that you can dance too?

Posted by: RD Padouk | June 19, 2007 3:53 PM | Report abuse

Umbrage, umbrage (fuax only). I'm sorry but
you cannot put Miceal Buble into the same category as Celine Dion. I'm saying this because my sister has all of his albums, and would kill me if I didn't take a stand - though she does turn pink when she is forced to admit the full nature of her teensy weensy Buble album obsession.

Shatner? Why he's no longer a person, he's an institution. You can dislike him, you can hate him, but gosh darn it all, he is Canadian, and an almost symbol of our national pride. He could stand shoulder to shoulder with...whatever. I was going to say beaver but no matter how I phrased it I could not keep a straight face.

Yellojkt, no one is responsible for the music we listened to in the 80's. It was mind control.

Posted by: dr | June 19, 2007 3:54 PM | Report abuse

Lamp Chop, don't you mean you are a "Pint of Lint"?

Posted by: Curmudgeon | June 19, 2007 3:56 PM | Report abuse

Could be Dell's tekcos double socket.

Posted by: Shiloh | June 19, 2007 3:56 PM | Report abuse

Michael Buble is OK in my books. At least he sings real songs, and his is the only music I can be comfortable playing during one of our big dinner parties (the sitting down portion of the evening anyway) when we have people in age ranging from 87 to 6 months. There really aren't that many 'familiar but inoffensive to all' selections out there, you know.

And besides, he's so cute. He has a round baby face and then sings all those hot standards; the contrast cracks me up every time.

Posted by: Yoki | June 19, 2007 3:59 PM | Report abuse

I saw Crystal Gayle at Rams Head last year. She has put on a little weight, but she still has the pipes and the hair down to her knees. I'll take Crystal over the Titanic Toque any day.

Posted by: yellojkt | June 19, 2007 3:59 PM | Report abuse

Pretty much off-topic, but when did that stop anyone here?

Every month Costco sends us a magazine, Costco Connection. The name reminded me of the Kermit the Frog song, Rainbow Connection. 'Cept we only could sing the one line. So I went ahead and wrote the whole song:

Why are there so many pallets of mayo
And wine bottles on their side?
Staples are needed, but not in quantities
That would turn Fred's car on its side
But we've been told that we need to consume stuff
Where to store it is the key
Someday we'll find it, the Costco connection,
The CDs, the dog food and me.

Posted by: Raysmom | June 19, 2007 4:00 PM | Report abuse

Aw, c'mon, Yoki--*I* have a round baby face and sing all the hot standards, too. Of course, my voice is close to Georgie Jessel's, but still...

Posted by: Curmudgeon | June 19, 2007 4:01 PM | Report abuse

Michael Buble is a hotty, seriously.
Frostdottir has won me over. She has all his albums, a DVD and his concert tour schedule memorized. Her current rant, "What did I get a passport for if I can't go see him in London?" (To go to Kenora sweetie)

Posted by: frostbitten | June 19, 2007 4:02 PM | Report abuse

At no time was my praise for Michael Buble intended to imply, in any way, that you are not just as cute as a button, 'Mudge.

Posted by: Yoki | June 19, 2007 4:04 PM | Report abuse

Raysmom-love it! Serious tune cootie-The CDs, the dog food, and me.

Posted by: frostbitten | June 19, 2007 4:05 PM | Report abuse

That's better. *stops sulking in corner and returns to editing "Results for Logistic Regression of Restraint Use on Respondent Characteristics for Version 'A' Variables"*

Posted by: Curmudgeon | June 19, 2007 4:06 PM | Report abuse

Which is a perky musical, if any of you were wondering.

Posted by: Curmudgeon | June 19, 2007 4:07 PM | Report abuse

I knew it! Pop Socket is George Bush the Elder.

Posted by: Ivansmom | June 19, 2007 4:09 PM | Report abuse

Mudge, does that translet into English?

Posted by: Raysmom | June 19, 2007 4:09 PM | Report abuse

I really do like Buble. I agree with Yoki that at least its music that all ages can listen to. I did not mention that there are certain of his albums I fully intend to steal from my sister should her guard ever be down.

frostdottir sounds just like my sister!

Posted by: dr | June 19, 2007 4:10 PM | Report abuse

SCC: translate (stupid fingers!)

Posted by: Raysmom | June 19, 2007 4:11 PM | Report abuse

9/11 on the science fiction quiz. I missed the Tiberius question (the correct answer is, um, stupid), and I guessed incorrectly on the product manufactured by the Rosen Association. I only got the "fear" question because yellojkt quoted it recently. And I never actually read any of the books that might reference Dejah Thoris -- I learned about these books in the gutter -- but I got the question right, anyway.

7/10 on the junk food quiz. I guessed the wrong non-food in Twinkies, guessed the fattiest burger incorrectly, and guessed wrongly on the cause of childhood obesity. I am proud of myself on the burger question, however, since I never purchase the mega-lardo burgers at any of these establishments. This makes me morally superior, as anyone surely would admit.

Posted by: ScienceTim | June 19, 2007 4:11 PM | Report abuse

Yoki! "familiar but inoffensive to all" -- Frank Sinatra! Rosemary Clooney! Etc.!
I have never heard Mr. Buble.

Nice song, Raysmom.

Posted by: Ivansmom | June 19, 2007 4:12 PM | Report abuse

Touching base briefly-have to work tonight. Did 8/10 on fast food, 9/11 on sci-fi. Things are clouding up around here, but last I looked at the doppler, all the heavy weather looks to be far west of us. But those conditions can change in weather like this.

Posted by: ebtnut | June 19, 2007 4:20 PM | Report abuse

>Let's just say I am a point of light.

If you consider a TCP/IP socket in a POP email server software a piece of light, I guess so.

Posted by: Error Flynn | June 19, 2007 4:23 PM | Report abuse

I dunno, Raysmom; I'm on page 48 and haven't understood a word of it since about page 6. (Pages 2-5 were table of contents.)

Posted by: Curmudgeon | June 19, 2007 4:23 PM | Report abuse

Hey SciTim: I aced the junk food quiz not because of moral superiority, but because of 15 years working with a NGO national health agency and a propensity for reading the fine print on food labels. My late wife said it took twice as long to grocery shop when I was with her. An occasional indulgence in a super saturated-fat fast food favorite is excusable if you balance it out by eating oatmeal for a week.

Posted by: Shiloh | June 19, 2007 4:26 PM | Report abuse

A big ole nasty Thunderstorm just rolled through west by god. I had beached my boat and 3 minutes later quarter size hail was falling.

On my desperate mad dash down stream( I heard the first crack of thunder 3 miles upriver) I saw a large male Bald Eagle take flight from it's perch a flew some 30 feet above my head. Too bad the camera was in the other kayak 50 yards away. It was a Beautiful site.

Posted by: greenwithenvy | June 19, 2007 4:29 PM | Report abuse

Maybe more a point of presence than a point of light, EF. Didn't want to make it too easy. And at least no one called me a shack of silt.

Posted by: yellojkt | June 19, 2007 4:33 PM | Report abuse

For grins, I checked the Wedding Fashions chat transcript. I stopped when I got to "I have a fairly traditional strapless gown."

Child, strapless wedding gowns have only been traditional since around 1999. (And I thank the FSM I got married before then.)

Posted by: Raysmom | June 19, 2007 4:34 PM | Report abuse

Raysmom, love it. Here's one for you (Downtown):

When staples are low, and you've got kids on the go
you can always go
to Sam's Club

If you've got room, for a crate of Fruit of the Loom
you can find it at
Sam's Club

Just look at all those boxes that make us feel so little
the first three feet of all the displays are thick with toddler spittle
but the prices are low, the fluorescent lights make the food seem so real
you can wander the aisles, and lose all your family at
Sam's Club -things will be cheaper when you're at
Sam's Club - the wages are rolled back at
Sam's Club - everything's waiting for you

Posted by: SonofCarl | June 19, 2007 4:39 PM | Report abuse

Hmm... did somebody make a freudian slip and out himself just now, Yello?

Posted by: Wilbrod | June 19, 2007 4:41 PM | Report abuse

Strapless (and topless) wedding gowns have been in fashion in Tahiti and the FSM (Federated States of Micronesia) for some time, but I don't know if cargo cults have adopted the FSM (spaghetti) ritual, Raysmom.

Posted by: Shiloh | June 19, 2007 4:41 PM | Report abuse

I love the big box ditties! I'm going to roam the aisles singing those songs. Now, all I have to do is figure out how to eat all those Angus cheese burgers so I can fill up my freezer with more food that my family thinks they want to eat but don't really.

Posted by: Aloha | June 19, 2007 4:42 PM | Report abuse

Hello, friends. Just got a chance to check in. Did not read all the comments.

Hello, k-guy, nice to hear from you again.

Happy Birthday, Tim, and congratulations. I don't know what for.

Martooni, what kbert said, and the rest.

Mudge, "Stand by your man" would have been a poor, poor, choice, although it is certainly true. I laughed when I read your comment.

Slyness, haven't had a chance to look at the news, but getting ready to do that.

Vacation Bible School is wonderful, and we have so many children. The g-girl is with me, but I cannot reach my grandsons. They might be out of town.

I am a little tired, but it's a good tired. It is still very hot here, and I think that is contributing to the way I feel.

Joel, the kit is excellent. You've outdone yourself.

Mudge, Slyness, Scotty, fill in for me on the morning spot. Can't get to the computer. I'll be pulling out real early in the morning.

Take care, folks, and be mindful of the heat if that is your situation.

Yoki, I don't think you killed the boodle. The boodle is pretty strong.

And Ivansmom, the director and I went through the books, and I know I am repeating myself, but I cannot thank you enough.

God loves us so much more than we can imagine through Him that died for all, Jesus Christ. Peace.

Posted by: Cassandra S | June 19, 2007 4:43 PM | Report abuse

SoC, love it! ('Specially the toddler spittle.)

Posted by: Raysmom | June 19, 2007 4:44 PM | Report abuse

My cover is blown and I think I will retire. I want it to show for the record that I never personally attacked any boodler. I place myself at the mercy of the boodle and feel free to SuperFrenchie me as you think appropriate. Members of the back boodle are welcome to admonish me directly.

I found the experiment of how the boodle treats the many trolls that come by too intriguing to avoid and I got sucked into the persona.

I was even keeping a fake blog that at least one boodler discovered on their own. Pop Socket may continue to live on the interwebs, but he won't be on the Yakkingblog anymore.

Posted by: Sock Puppet | June 19, 2007 4:47 PM | Report abuse

They wear dresses to get married in Tahiti?

Posted by: Aloha | June 19, 2007 4:47 PM | Report abuse

Raysmom - that was great. The only downside is that the "Rainbow Connection" always makes me shed a manly tear, and now it will also make me laugh. How confusing.

Posted by: RD Padouk | June 19, 2007 4:49 PM | Report abuse

Dang, I'll miss the Ron Paul zealot, that old troll.

Ah, I see Wilbrodog was right. Pop Socket did smell of a hysterical chihuahua or other wee dog (bee dog). I just mistook his bee (yellojkt) dance for "incontinent wee dog dance"

Aloha-- only the men do. It's part of the Klinger Kult that sprang up in Tahiti after endless MASH reruns.

Posted by: Wilbrod | June 19, 2007 4:54 PM | Report abuse

And in the spirit of these musical tributes to Costco and Sam's Club, I attempted to write a stirring anthem to our favorite Warehouse Store: BJ's.

But somehow the lyrics just never really seemed to, you know, work the way I intended.

Posted by: RD Padouk | June 19, 2007 4:54 PM | Report abuse

Cassandra, I'm glad the books will work. I expect in a few months or a year we'll have another batch, as the Boy's age and interest categories in reading change.

It was surprisingly difficult to craft what became the last sentence of the last paragraph without implying a value judgment, either good or bad, of the Boy's reading taste. While I myself would not willingly have picked "Captain Underpants" or "Hamtoro", at least they encouraged him to read. And really, they and their ilk weren't so much worse than some of my "light" reading.

I knew it. Pop Socket was Poppy all the time. Come back anytime! Remember, Herbert Walker is available as a boodle handle.

Posted by: Ivansmom | June 19, 2007 4:57 PM | Report abuse

Pop Yello... I think we were very nice to you. I hope your "experiment" worked. We will not Superfrenchie you nor admonish you.

This is no worse than when you ran out on the check.

I think it also proves one thing: Beware the "Name: box."

Posted by: TBG | June 19, 2007 4:58 PM | Report abuse

Does Aloha think it'sarong to be dressed for a Tahitian wedding? My unfamiliarity with the FSM wedding ritual may be at fault.

Posted by: Shiloh | June 19, 2007 4:58 PM | Report abuse

Were you also Simon D as well?

Posted by: TBG | June 19, 2007 5:02 PM | Report abuse

Yes, thanks, SonofCarl, for the Sam's song to go with the Costco carol. You folks shoulda got together for Hilary. And watch out, RD. You're making me giggle.

Posted by: Ivansmom | June 19, 2007 5:03 PM | Report abuse

Most people I know from Tahiti like to swim topless. Not sure if that goes for weddings too.

As for strapless wedding gowns, it's funny how brides always think they're the best thing to get married in. That's gotta be one of the most uncomfortable things to wear on a very stressful day.

Posted by: Aloha | June 19, 2007 5:11 PM | Report abuse

Shrieking... Buble, Shmuble... I'd like to personally thank you for Steven Page.

Posted by: TBG | June 19, 2007 5:11 PM | Report abuse

Padouk, ya beat me to it. We shop at BJ's, too. I was quivering with anticipation of a song, but yes, cooler heads have (one hopes) prevailed.

Lamp Chop, don't let the door hit you on the a$$ on the way out.

Shiloh, I think its vera wang to wear spaghetti strap at a Tahitian wedding, and very wang to borrow something narrow. Remember, two wangs don't make a wide.

Running for the bus.

Running for the bus.

Posted by: Curmudgeon | June 19, 2007 5:13 PM | Report abuse

Never gonna let me live down that dine and dash, are ya? I've atoned for that at least twice over. Unless bc never did make the BPH contribution he said he would.

I have no idea who Simon D is. Except for boodlers we have photos of, there may only be 12 of us.

Posted by: yellojkt | June 19, 2007 5:15 PM | Report abuse

Hey considering I called the Achenblog folk a bunch of pointy-sciency types (under an alias) over on the Mommy blog...

I'll witness for Yellojkt's defense, if he insists on going on Achentrial.

BTW, I hope Simon D. never turns out to be a fellow boodler; I don't think we could deal with Mudge casting himself as the head of the jury in "Twelve Angry Editors."

We'd have to suppress him a la Lewis Carroll, and how would we ever find a sack big enough and souls brave enough to sit on him?

Posted by: Wilbrod | June 19, 2007 5:18 PM | Report abuse

yello, I did make that contribution, sir.


Posted by: bc | June 19, 2007 5:19 PM | Report abuse

Don't worry, we know it wasn't you after all... It was Pop Socket blowing a mental fuse.

Posted by: Wilbrod | June 19, 2007 5:22 PM | Report abuse

Just got this email from my sister...

Big news break today:

Breast cancer genes can come from father

Or, it can come from mother. Now, can I have my Nobel Prize?

Posted by: TBG | June 19, 2007 5:25 PM | Report abuse

With Cur running for the bus, it's timely to tell a tale of weddings in the South Pacific.

An anthropoligist studying an obsucre cargo cult island was invited to a wedding ceremony. The ritual exactly replicated a traditional western wedding until the ringbearer deliberately and with great ceremony dropped the ring. Thereupon a hyperactive groomsman rushed into the assembly and began to pinch the women in attendance on a certain part of their anatomy. When the anthropologist inquired about the departure from familiar ritual he was led to a yellowed copy of a NY Times society column that read, in part "The ceremony was unblemished until the ringbear dropped the ring and a nervous titter ran through the audience."

Posted by: Shiloh | June 19, 2007 5:28 PM | Report abuse

I have no doubt you did, bc. You are a man of your word.

Posted by: yellojkt | June 19, 2007 5:30 PM | Report abuse

Obsucre (sic) was not meant as bitter, but as obscure, and unblemished works better as unremarkable.

Posted by: Shiloh | June 19, 2007 5:38 PM | Report abuse

Curmudgeon, I have been informed that it is not a bus, it is a 36 window limo. (of course we never actually counted the windows)

Posted by: dr | June 19, 2007 5:44 PM | Report abuse

>Except for boodlers we have photos of, there may only be 12 of us.

That would assume there are lot of people twisted enough to make up a fake persona (including blog) in order to "test" their friends and waste their time arguing and provoking them.

My father used to like to test his friends. He didn't end up with many.

Posted by: Error Flynn | June 19, 2007 5:57 PM | Report abuse

Maybe all it takes is one boodler with endless personality, Error, who wants his imaginary friends with him everywhere.

Posted by: Wilbrod | June 19, 2007 6:02 PM | Report abuse

yellojkt, I took JellyBellies when visiting our project team in Suzhou and they were a hit. A pound of See's chocolet for the hotel Sheraton desk staff got me fantastic service for three weeks. The toilet paper was US super grade at the Suzhou Sheraton, The Place in Beijing and the Hyatt in Xian so I wouldn't use packing space for it unless you plan on staying in very cheap accomadations.

Posted by: bh | June 19, 2007 6:05 PM | Report abuse

>only 12 of us.

I have long suspected that there are fewer than 12, that Joel himself is suspect (he may be Karen) and that Error, Curmudgeon, Cassandra, a couple of others and I may be the only authentics.

Posted by: Shiloh | June 19, 2007 6:06 PM | Report abuse

Actually, I have long suspected, but cannot prove, that I am merely a cleverly designed automaton.

Posted by: RD Padouk | June 19, 2007 6:10 PM | Report abuse

Shiloh... I know for a fact that Joel's not Karen, having visited her last year in southern Fla.

And her husband may be a little disappointed to find out if she were.

But if I were going to make up a new persona, I couldn't come up with a much better person (real or not).

I think it was pretty good that we actually tried to engage the "troll" Pop Socket.

Yello... how do you see the results of your "experiment?"

Posted by: TBG | June 19, 2007 6:12 PM | Report abuse

One of things they taught us in PM class is the dangers of destructive testing.

Posted by: RD Padouk | June 19, 2007 6:14 PM | Report abuse

Just catching up:

Ivansmom, Buble is the new Frank Sinatra. Seriously if you like Frank, you will like Buble.

The interesting thing about all kinds of music is that if you listen to it for a while, there will be stuff you come to enjoy. One of the Bill's was saying the same thing just the other day. I used despise Peggy Lee. My only exposure was to her apperances on Ed Sullivan. They play her a fair bit on one of the newer radio channels, and you know, I really like her older stuff.

Or maybe it has to do with my age. What I heard in my childhood feels comfortable to my ears now.

Posted by: dr | June 19, 2007 6:18 PM | Report abuse

To paraphrase Joseph Welch, TBG, "Have you no humor."

Posted by: Shiloh | June 19, 2007 6:19 PM | Report abuse

The familiar, June, like a tune cootie, is comforting. You said that well.

Posted by: Shiloh | June 19, 2007 6:30 PM | Report abuse

Shiloh... I'll have you know I have no sense of decency either!

Sorry that my post sounded so snarky and humorless. It's that kind of a day. Still at work and will be for several more hours. Right now I'm in hurry up and wait mode.

I agree with dr about music. I remember seeing Ella Fitzgerald on TV when I was a kid: she was pretty much over the hill and sounded raspy and just plain old.

I recently came across the young Ella Fitzgerald at her peak. Wow. What a voice. What an entertainer. The Songbook Collections are great.

Posted by: TBG | June 19, 2007 6:31 PM | Report abuse

I am apparently, dr, suffering from the end of a Juneteenth celebration.

Posted by: Shiloh | June 19, 2007 6:35 PM | Report abuse

You are delightful TBG and your mind's ear for Ella proves it.

Posted by: Shiloh | June 19, 2007 6:39 PM | Report abuse

TBG, I know what you mean. I listened to Dylan on television once and thought his voice sounded terrible. But then I listened to his early stuff and ... wait.

I guess that isn't the best example.

Posted by: RD Padouk | June 19, 2007 6:51 PM | Report abuse

Drive by boodling:

Frosti and I are the same person and all the Canookies are one grand person.

EF -- Vultures happen. As does carrion. We have them often in the small woodlet near me. Are your vultures the classic sort or the very creepy sort here:
(Scroll down to see the two species)

Omni is right: bad air today.

Posted by: College Parkian | June 19, 2007 6:57 PM | Report abuse

RD... you know, man.. the times, they are a-changin'.

My sister went to the concert on the Monument grounds the night before Bill Clinton's first inauguration. There was a person signing all the songs. When Bob Dylan was singing, she was signing only "words and music; words and music."

Posted by: TBG | June 19, 2007 6:58 PM | Report abuse

So Pop Socket was really an LED??? Who has now been unplugged (unsocketed?)???What??? *confused as always*

Cassandra, I'll do my best to fill in for you, but I think people will notice the difference.


Posted by: Scottynuke | June 19, 2007 7:01 PM | Report abuse

RD, I understand Bob Dylan was born with the voice of a 90-year old asthmatic smoker. Still, I kind of like his plain singing style-- easy to lipread anyway.

Posted by: WIlbrod | June 19, 2007 7:04 PM | Report abuse

Bob Dylan? I thought RD was talking about Dylan Thomas.

Posted by: Shiloh | June 19, 2007 7:05 PM | Report abuse

I liked "Lamb Chop."

Here's my latest vendetta: that no one in the world but me apparently has thought that it just might be A GOOD IDEA if BOYS were to receive the new vaccine for papilloma virus. My idea has a lot going for it. Rightly or wrongly, boys are seen as a bit more promiscuous than girls; less of a scarlet letter for them to get the vaccine (anticipating they will be having unapproved sex). Plus, they could be saving lives if they got the vaccine.

Posted by: Jumper | June 19, 2007 7:11 PM | Report abuse



Posted by: Ron Paul | June 19, 2007 7:13 PM | Report abuse

I was starting to become grand, but then I started lightening, thanks to CP's Rhubarb Diet©

I can barely keep one personality straight.

Posted by: SonofCarl | June 19, 2007 7:20 PM | Report abuse

Jumper: Carageenan lubricants and condoms should be coupled (pardon the pun) with vaaccination in the promotion of HPV incident reduction.

Posted by: Shiloh | June 19, 2007 7:22 PM | Report abuse

Jumper... does it work on males, too? As the mother of a 13 yr old girl, I really need to educate myself on this.

And remember... you can get any STD from "approved" sex, too. (I think having girls get the vaccine says more about their future partners than about them; at least that's the angle I'm gonna go for.)

Posted by: TBG | June 19, 2007 7:28 PM | Report abuse

Bloomberg becomes an Independent; leaves Republican party...

Posted by: TBG | June 19, 2007 7:30 PM | Report abuse

NYC Mayor Bloomberg withdrawing from Republican Party, considering presidential bid as an independent. (NBC, ABC News)

Three New Yawkers potentially on the Nov. '08 ballot?

Posted by: Loomis | June 19, 2007 7:31 PM | Report abuse

Well, I like Buble but cannot listen to Frank Sinatra. And there may be something in what dr says, but I have exposed myself to jazz over and over and over and I just can't hear it. I consider it a character flaw in myself, but there you have it. One among many.

I will be very disappointed to learn that all the Canadian Boodlers are one person, as I have a yen to meet all of them. And if all of them are me, we're sunk.

Posted by: Yoki | June 19, 2007 7:33 PM | Report abuse

Better, Loomis, three "New Yawkers" than one incumbent Texan.

Posted by: Shiloh | June 19, 2007 7:38 PM | Report abuse

Yoki.. if you are all of them are you, we could do worse!

I love Sinatra, but I do hate the kind of freeform, scat-singing jazz.

I love Big Band music. We saw the Glenn Miller Story recently and it was fun to see how songs really are different. To me they all sound pretty much the same, but my dad knew Big Band music like I know rock music. He could hear a song and immediately tell me the name of the band, the band leader, the singer. He knew who always sang with who and when.

Posted by: TBG | June 19, 2007 7:38 PM | Report abuse

For a humorous, if possible, take on Juneteenth:

Cyrus: "Be sure you thank President Lincoln for us. Sir, we want to remember everything about this day. When did he issue the proclamation? Two, three weeks ago?"

Granger: "Ah, a little bit longer than that."

Joshua: "A month or two ago? Three months?"

Granger: "Well, you see, ah, funny thing about that, but the proclamation was effective on Jan. 1 -- "

Cyrus: "Jan. 1. That's not bad con -- "

Granger: " -- 1863."

Sadie: "Huh?"

Granger: "The proclamation was effective on Jan. 1, 1863."

Joshua: "Wait. Today is June 19, 1865. That's two years -- "

Cyrus: "Six months -- "

Sadie: " -- and 18 days!"

Granger: "Gotta run. See you later."

Joshua: "You mean we've been free for two years, six months, and 18 days and y'all just getting around to telling us?"

Sadie: "Don't think that we're not grateful, General, because we are but, with all due respect, what in the name of Frederick Douglass took you so long?"

Granger: "Well we did have some delays and -- "

Cyrus: "Man, Columbus almost beat you here. Shoot, Noah would have gotten here quicker if he didn't have all those animals on his ark."

Posted by: Loomis | June 19, 2007 7:38 PM | Report abuse

Or better than the brother of an incumbent Texan.

Posted by: Loomis | June 19, 2007 7:40 PM | Report abuse

And a "three New Yawkers" triumverate representative of the voters bespeaks Santayana's dictum "Those who fail to learn the lessons of history are doomed to repeat them"

Posted by: Shiloh | June 19, 2007 7:46 PM | Report abuse

Here's a new one on me--a non-denial denial (reporting by Perry Bacon Jr. of the WaPo). Is this something that's been around in political reporting for some time? I mean, did Millard Fillmore ever issue a non-denial denial when he ran as a Know Nothing?:

Bloomberg offered a non-denial denial when reporters asked him pointed questions about rumors that he might run for president.

Posted by: Loomis | June 19, 2007 7:49 PM | Report abuse

Loomis: Granger at Galveston saying "gotta run" made my day.

Posted by: Shiloh | June 19, 2007 7:49 PM | Report abuse

Dang, was that a boodlekiller or is this the "hour of lead" - Emily Dickinson

Posted by: Shiloh | June 19, 2007 8:33 PM | Report abuse

Pight of loint?

--After Asimov's "A Loint of Paw", for which anybody obtaining 9 of 11 (9/11?) on the scifi quiz should be able to relate the key plot element...

Not LoInt, as in computer-speak; and if pight, why not pightly loint?

Posted by: MedallionOfFerret | June 19, 2007 8:34 PM | Report abuse

The Boodle never really dies. It's just restin'


The only thing wrong with the Boodle was that... IT WAS ALIVE!

Posted by: Yoki | June 19, 2007 8:40 PM | Report abuse

I would never deign to despoil the integrity of the Boodle with a false persona.

Posted by: Cmmrbnd Crmlllmrlynwygllnm | June 19, 2007 8:44 PM | Report abuse

Yello, I'd found your blog, but through the posting on the other WaPo blog.

I really think you were channeling one of those OWGs (old white guys, there are also OBGs and OAGs) in technology who still run frames and think everything they say is important.

When you really turn 61, you'd be a natural for I used to think the phrase *old f@rt* was gross, but now I realize it's a perfect description.

Farewell, sock puppet.

Posted by: dbG | June 19, 2007 8:50 PM | Report abuse

Actually, for the last hourt or so I've been trying to figure out what exactly "approved sex" might be, and whether it might be worth trying some time. After giving it due consideration, I decided, no, it doesn't sound like my cup of tea.

Somewhat in the same vein (or vain), as I was eating dinner this evening a public service commercial came on TV (I swear I'm not making this up), warning teenagers of the dangers of meningitis, and noting that it can be spread by "sharing soft drinks" and "kissing." The ad then asked parents to educate their kids about the dangers of said dreaded disease (or actually, family of diseases, although the ad didn't bother to go into anything like fine distinctions, such as some kinds can kill ya, and some probably won't). And of course my first, last, and only thought was, how the bloody hell do you stop teenagers from kissing?

BTW, I think I've fallen deeply, passionately in love with the label "Canookies." Or maybe it's just lust, I dunno. But I never thought Canada would make me need to take a cold shower.

Posted by: Curmudgeon | June 19, 2007 8:56 PM | Report abuse

I think you stop teenagers from kissing by calling it "approved kissing."

Posted by: TBG | June 19, 2007 9:02 PM | Report abuse

That's genius, TBG.

Posted by: Curmudgeon | June 19, 2007 9:10 PM | Report abuse

On reflection, I have 2 questions:

Yello, does Ms. Jkt know how annoying you can be when you want to? :-)

Was your Ron Paul support part of the act?

Posted by: dbG | June 19, 2007 9:16 PM | Report abuse

TGB, hahahha!

But my real question about this is, why would you want to? What possible purpose (OK, the RNC purpose, which should go without saying) could that serve? Don't we want our children to find out their own selves, erotic as much as public-serviceable? I just can't understand these 'purity balls' and 'abstinence vows.'

I do, without either being or trying to be amusing, want my girls to grow up to be fully engaged women. Sex (and rock'n roll, but not drugs [necessarily]) is part of that. Why should they not experience their own power when they are as beautiful as they are ever going to be?

What are people afraid of? Why should our children not know the glory that the FSM gave us?

Most of us rein in our physical impulses in the service of making a living, or...

I just don't get it. I have always thought, as a mother, that one of my jobs was to teach my children that sex and love are good and a right treat. Wisely (or not too wisely, and not too well) to be exercised with caution, but not too much caution. And that sometimes sex and love can conflu, or not, without much harm being done to anyone, so long as respect is in full frolic at all times.

Posted by: Yoki | June 19, 2007 9:21 PM | Report abuse

Yoki - Wow! Go on vacation, brother has a wireless, decide to check on the boodle (I know you've all missed me) and decide to start from the end....

Posted by: Kim | June 19, 2007 9:25 PM | Report abuse

I agree, Yoki. Of course, my daughter is only 13. But I have spoken with her about getting into situations she's not comfortable with.

That conversation may have been her first one.

Posted by: TBG | June 19, 2007 9:26 PM | Report abuse

Yoki, don't make me come up there and throw myself at your feet.

Posted by: Curmudgeon | June 19, 2007 9:26 PM | Report abuse

1) Only too aware. I keep hoping I have some redeeming values. Just don't press me or her on what they are.
2) My support for Ron Paul was and is completely ironic. That part was germinated over at Wonkette (where I am also yellojkt).

Posted by: yellojkt | June 19, 2007 9:29 PM | Report abuse

Yoki: //Why should they not experience their own power when they are as beautiful as they are ever going to be?//

My guess is that while you were very beautiful when you were their age that you're even more beautiful now.

Posted by: dbG | June 19, 2007 9:30 PM | Report abuse

Very well put Yoki. I've always said of Frosdottir's bf, now stationed in Iraq, that I hope he's done a lot of living considering the worst that could happen. That of course means he will have done at least some of said living with Frostdottir.
"Why should they not experience their own power when they are as beautiful as they are ever going to be?" So right, but I might add to as beautiful, "and not tired."

I will miss Sock Puppet. The Ron Paul rants led me to add redstate update to my favorites so I never miss an episode (some are better than others, but always worth a look). And I was working my way through the entire Scottish Falsetto Sock Puppet Theatre repertoire on Youtube just in case things got nasty and I needed a mood lightening retort.

Speaking of lightening. We had some miracle lightening rhubarb last night, but baked in a tasty pie with lard in the bottom crust and the top crust replaced with a crisp topping of butter, oatmeal, and brown sugar (increasing the usual fat and sugar content of rhubarb pie by 50%). CP will have to bike twice as hard in the coming week to burn off the calories I ate for us.


Posted by: frostbitten | June 19, 2007 9:37 PM | Report abuse

Dang, I was beginning to like hot pocket.

I agree with only 12 ,half the time I don't even know where the heck I am, or who for that matter.

Posted by: greenwithenvy | June 19, 2007 9:40 PM | Report abuse

I guess I'm kinda anachronistic and foolishly romantic. At least that's what I was once told. For to me it was a magical secret only we shared. It was something that we had only experienced with each other, and that enhanced the huge private vocabulary that belonged to us alone. And I would have been ecstatic to keep it that way forever.

Posted by: RD Padouk | June 19, 2007 9:44 PM | Report abuse

I demand a recount! No, no, not Celine! This is from the music critic (J. Freedom du Lac) in his chat today:
"By the way, any conspiracy theorists out there thinking the same thing I am here? That Hillary's opponents flooded the ballot box to stick her with a Celine song, which will become a political liability down the road? Because, you know, Celine sux? Just me? OK, then."

Cute video, though.

Posted by: mostlylurking | June 19, 2007 10:05 PM | Report abuse

That was kinda my thought, too, dbG: I know a few women who are better-looking at 40 than at 20. I know women like to think the opposite and are super-sensitive about aging, but some women just do age terrifically well.

Posted by: Curmudgeon | June 19, 2007 10:07 PM | Report abuse

I'm smiling, knowing that I have this circle of friends.

RD, it may be so. I don't know. It would be a lovely and loving gift. It might be ideal. But I would not put that on my childers, my weans, my dottirs.

Mr. Curmudgeon, Sir! I have had unrequited passion for a year or so. You may not throw yourself at my feet. I'm delighted you and your Goodwife know what I know. Excellence.

Posted by: Yoki | June 19, 2007 10:16 PM | Report abuse

The wife is principal piccolo and assistant principal flute with the ISO and absolutely clueless about popular music. I mean, the fording Carpenters.

Thank God for her positive and patient attitude. Alone, Goth would be the best I could achieve.

Posted by: bill everything | June 19, 2007 10:52 PM | Report abuse

bill e... funny how taste in music can make no negative difference in a relationship... my husband is 12 years older than I am and the only time it ever comes up is when we're talking about or listening to music.

I mean he OWNED a copy of "Rock Around the Clock" for goodness sake!

Posted by: TBG | June 19, 2007 11:00 PM | Report abuse

The funny bit was that Cmmrbnd actually fooled Superfrenchie for a while...

Posted by: Wilbrod | June 19, 2007 11:13 PM | Report abuse

And what, TBG, is wrong with owning a copy (on reel-to-reel) of Rock Around the Clock?!

I'm gonna Rock Around the Clock

How wonderful.

Posted by: Yoki | June 19, 2007 11:15 PM | Report abuse

Buying the song new when it first came out on a 45 rpm record is one thing. But winning it at a Cotillion dance when it first came out is another.

Still, the operative phrase is "when it first came out." The song was released the year before I was born.

Posted by: TBG | June 19, 2007 11:22 PM | Report abuse

Geez, was it obvious that I was referring to my kids in the last sentence of the last post?

Since I can't readily attend a BPH in the near future, if you go to the ISO web site, get my wife's last name after the hyphen and google it, well . . . .

Posted by: bill everything | June 19, 2007 11:22 PM | Report abuse

Rock around the clock was played constantly at lunch time in Jr High.

Posted by: LTL-CA | June 19, 2007 11:29 PM | Report abuse

Sorry, TBG. We have this thing we have done, since the now-adult-daughters were babes-in-arms, when we dance in the kitchen on most Saturday nights. We do polka, and jive, and jitterbug, and waltz, and tango, and rumba, and cha-cha, and every other dance you could imagine.

We put on the (albums, tapes, 8-tracks, CDs, DVDs) records, and we all just dance in the kitchen.

It is good times. Now that the young ladies have grown up, they bring their friends and partners up of a Saturday night to dance in the kitchen with their family-of-origin.

Dancing is fun and good times. That is what I know. And I own every song I've ever danced to, even if it was released as sheet-music or a 45, before or after I was born ('58).

Posted by: Yoki | June 19, 2007 11:31 PM | Report abuse

That is the real betrayal, isn't it? That we tried to be kind to Pop Socket, Sock Puppet, Pop Rocket, Lock Picket...

yello, how do you feel about your test, now?

Posted by: Yoki | June 19, 2007 11:51 PM | Report abuse

You can check out yellojkt's blog for his mea culpa.

Here's a song we were talking about on a Leon Russell list (he tried to play it the other night, but the band didn't know it). You may remember it from Pulp Fiction:

You Never Can Tell (Chuck Berry)

It was a teenage wedding,
and the old folks wished them well
You could see that Pierre
did truly love the mademoiselle
And now the young monsieur
and madame have rung the chapel bell,
"C'est la vie", say the old folks,
it goes to show you never can tell

They furnished off an apartment
with a two room Roebuck sale
The coolerator was crammed
with TV dinners and ginger ale,
But when Pierre found work,
the little money comin' worked out well
"C'est la vie", say the old folks,
it goes to show you never can tell

They had a hi-fi phono, boy, did they let it blast
Seven hundred little records,
all rock, rhythm and jazz
But when the sun went down,
the rapid tempo of the music fell
"C'est la vie", say the old folks,
it goes to show you never can tell

They bought a souped-up jitney,
'twas a cherry red '53,
They drove it down New Orleans
to celebrate their anniversary
It was there that Pierre was married
to the lovely mademoiselle
"C'est la vie", say the old folks,
it goes to show you never can tell

Posted by: mostlylurking | June 20, 2007 12:41 AM | Report abuse

Slyness, I don't recall whether anyone ever addressed you question, but yes, May 5th is Children's Day in Japan. Fun stuff.

Posted by: Bob S. | June 20, 2007 3:28 AM | Report abuse

"YOUR" question. Sometimes I really annoy myself!

Posted by: Bob S. | June 20, 2007 3:30 AM | Report abuse

Quote from Wallace Shawn:

"I don't happen to have a sense of humor personally, so I don't know what's funny about a character... This happens to be a feature of my life generally. I do things, and other people laugh at them. I rarely know what the joke is supposed to be or why they're laughing."

If you know him & like him, this is poignant and screamingly funny. If you don't know him, it's probably just a touch poignant, and maybe a little sad. And if you know him and don't have much use for him, it's probably just annoying and sad.

Oh, well, he's done O.K. for the funny-looking son of a magazine editor!

Posted by: Bob S. | June 20, 2007 3:40 AM | Report abuse

Goodmorning everyone. Hi Ivansmom.

I always considered Christmas the Children's day in America. Even as adults, I think it brings out our inner child.

I've never been to Japan, but a Metro friend of mine, upon visiting Tokeo in mid December, reported with great hilarity to have run across a billboard advertisement that portrayed Santa Claus nail to a cross. It lasted less than a day.

Posted by: Pat | June 20, 2007 4:58 AM | Report abuse

'Morning, Boodle. Rise and shine! OK, don't rise and shine. I'm trying to stand in for Cassandra, here, and clearly lack a certain something. Ah, well. Maybe Scotty will be along in a few minutes with some Grover waves. Best I can come up with is a Cookie Monster grunt.

Hey, Pat! Where ya been, guy? Good to hear from you again.

I like Wallace Shawn, and don't believe his "lack of a sense of humor" ploy for a moment. That IS his sense of humor--to claim to not have one.

Interesting story about the finding of a nearly 500-year-old Inca skull with two bullet holes in it, at . There's a map on that page, and to me what is interesting about the map is how misleading it is (in a way). I was in Lima about 8 years ago, and rode down that road to the ocean at Callao, also on the map. That you see on that map is a yellowish area, kinda of designating the city of Lima, and then an "open" area, and then a smaller patch of yellow designating the seaport town of Callao. But all that is misleading. There were (about 8 years ago) something like 8 million people living in the Lima-Callao region, and what on that map looks like two discreet towns is actually just one massive swarm of wall-to-wall people, streets, huts and slums, housing, etc., as far as the eye can see. I've never been to, say, Hong Kong or Mexico City, so maybe there are places even worse. But that city was the densest, most crowded concentration of people I have ever seen (or hope to see). It was amazing.

The map also shows the village of Puruchuco, where they found the skull in question. I don't think I was in Puruchuco, but I was very close to there, maybe drove past it up into the hills. The other thing the map doesn't show you is that the Andes run right along that eastern border of Lima, and that Puruchuco is up in the hills above the city. (Maybe they are only foothills and not the true Andes yet. But the point is the plateau containing Lima and Callao comes to an abrupt end and there are these sharp hills. And if you like to think of hills and mountains like those around, say, Denver, or the picturesque mountains of the Rockies, Cascades or Sierra Madre, you'd be dead wrong. The mountains around Lima are a muddy chocolate brown color, and ugly as all get-out. Not at all scenic or picturesque: quite easily the ugliest mountains I've ever seen. Virtually no vegatation on them. And where they aren't covered with houses and huts, the locals have painted various political slogans and electioneering exhortations on them: Vote for Lopez, Gonzalez for Senate, etc.--hundreds of them (the presidential campaign was going on when I was there). If the Sierra Club ever saw Lima, they'd be horror-struck.

A pretty eye-opening experience.

Posted by: Curmudgeon | June 20, 2007 6:10 AM | Report abuse

For those of you that don't have my blog as your homepage yet (and I don't know why you wouldn't), I have posted my ruminations on my foray into the trolly world of sock puppetry. I do once again apologize for any distress or umbrage I caused.

I'm just closing that chapter and going back to being my charming and witty (I would say perky, but that's already taken) self. Hate me for who I really am.

Personal message to Yoki: Taking advantage of genuinely nice and kind people is never rewarding.

Posted by: yellojkt | June 20, 2007 6:18 AM | Report abuse

"Taking advantage of genuinely nice and kind people is never rewarding."

Try telling that to this Administration and time how long it takes for the laughter to die down.

Posted by: byoolin | June 20, 2007 7:41 AM | Report abuse

Morning report: Pat and others. Because of a stealth rain last night, the world is washed new in Metro DC. Thunder bumpers veered north and south of me yesterday, so I am very grateful for the precipitation. Such dear faces with dew drops on them!: electric blue cornflower, purple drumstick alliums, neon-orange ditch lillies, bedraggled but valiant lilac petunias.... I believe I know how Eve felt on those first halcyon days before an apple fell, Caine bullied his brother unto death, sweat of my brow, etc.

Frosti and SonofCarl: Rhubarb is considered mildly carthartic. So, let us imbibers be careful out there.

I liked what RD said, as an ideal, about the mystery and power of our sexuality. I like also, the joyous and frank reality of Yoki's post. And, so many in the peanut gallery shouting amen to that.

So, to knit those two thoughts together, I invoke F.S. FitzGerald's useful chestnut:
The test of a first-rate intelligence is the ability to hold two opposed ideas in mind at the same time and still retain the ability to function.
- From _The Crack-Up (1936)

Posted by: College Parkian | June 20, 2007 7:46 AM | Report abuse

*belated Grover waves with a half-gainer*

Morning all!

Well, hopefully this rumored cold front will sweep the muggies out of DC this morning and set up a marvelous weekend for Nats BPHing!

'Mudge, you SO right in your 10:07.

May everyone enjoy the warm embrace of their beliefs today.

(Cassandra, you're VERY difficult to fill in for, as you can tell.)


Posted by: Scottynuke | June 20, 2007 8:10 AM | Report abuse

I am SO conflicted on how to comment on this:


Posted by: Scottynuke | June 20, 2007 8:13 AM | Report abuse

New kit!

Posted by: Raysmom | June 20, 2007 8:17 AM | Report abuse

NEW KIT!!!! :-)

Posted by: Scottynuke | June 20, 2007 8:18 AM | Report abuse

Hey Mudge, I haven't gone away, I've been causing trouble on other so called parenting blogs. I love the group of Boodlers here, (even though hthey engage in a little cyber mischief), but I am in the thick of an attempt to bring up, raise, reer, or whatever the word is, 4 children, so parenting is my passion at this time.

CP, because of your expressed enthusiasm for rhubarb, I tried it for the first time last week. Quite by accident, I thought my wife had left a stalk of celery on the counter and I took a bite. Shoo wee, pucker me. My wife later informed me of the name of the vegetable I took a chomp from. I don't know if I like it or not.

My 4 year old also picked 2 big, fat, zucchinis out of the garden yesterday. He is now officially my garden gopher.

Posted by: Pat | June 20, 2007 8:19 AM | Report abuse

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