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The Last Time Navy Beat Notre Dame; plus McCain and Clinton

[From the Post archives]

Staubach Snaps Academy Record

By George Minot
Staff Writer

SOUTH BEND, Ind., Nov. 2 -- A fine broth of an Irish lad, Pat Donnelly, ran wild, Roger Staubach broke the Naval Academy offense record and Navy laid the old shillelagh to Notre Dame today.
Scoring more points than they ever had in their 37-year-old series, the fourth-ranked Middies coasted to their sixth victory in seven games, 35-14. Notre Dame's record dropped to 2-4.
Navy was held to a 7-7 standoff at halftime, then exploded for four touchdowns, two of them in 44 seconds, before the Irish retaliated.
Playing his greatest game, junior tailback Donnelly ran through and around Notre Dame's line for 127 yards, and caught three passes for 41 more. He scored two touchdowns, on an 8-yard-pass from Staubach and a bruising 41-yard run...

Yes, that's from 1963.

[You can read a Naval Academy alumni blog here.]

[I bet you could listen to the end of the thrilling game here at Notre Dame Radio.]

[AP story here. Good photos if you click through.]


Candidates are campaigning up a storm in Iowa and making "major" speeches, as opposed to the usual stump prattle. Risking accusations of naivete, one astute observer recently ventured that the careful listener can find substantive material on the campaign trail.

Here's an excerpt from McCain's bioeconomy speech yesterday in Ames:

'I trust Americans, I trust markets and I oppose subsidies. As President, I'll propose a national energy strategy that will amount to a declaration of independence from the risk bred by our reliance on petro-dictators and our vulnerability to the troubled politics of the lands they rule. That strategy won't be another grab bag of handouts to this or that industry and a full employment act for lobbyists.

'Yes, that means no ethanol subsidies. But it also means no rifle-shot tax breaks for big oil. It means no line items for hydrogen, no mandates for other renewable fuels, and no big-government debacles like the Dakotas Synfuels plant. It means ethanol entrepreneurs get a level playing field to make their case -- and earn their profits.

'If I am elected President, I will change the competitive landscape and finally give Iowans a fair chance and no need for existing subsidies. I have proposed a market-based approach that would set reasonable caps on carbon and other greenhouse gas emissions, and provide industries with tradable credits. By reducing its emissions, a utility or industrial plant can generate credits it may trade on the open market for a profit, offering a powerful incentive to drive the deployment of new and better energy sources and technologies.

'This approach will build the business case for alternatives to oil such as ethanol. It will promote the conservation and diversification of energy to include alcohol fuels made from corn, sugar, switchgrass and many other sources; fuel cells; biodiesel derived from waste products; natural gas; and other technologies. These are all promising and available alternatives to oil, and I'll encourage the development of infrastructure and the market growth necessary for these products to compete, and let consumers choose the winners. I've never known an American entrepreneur worthy of the name who wouldn't rather compete for sales than subsidies. I have great faith that many residents of this great state share that same confidence in our unmatched ability to compete anywhere with anyone.'


And now Hillary, on her energy plan:

'The Department of Energy estimates that we can reduce energy use in residential buildings 20% by 2020. We can do better than that I believe. By some estimates all the future growth in energy demand in North America, all of it, could be met through investments in efficiency alone. And we know how to do this.

'Since 1970, three-fourths of all new demand has been met simply by using energy more efficiently. Over the past

three decades, California has held its electricity use per person flat. In other words, there's been no increase in electricity use per person in the entire state of California for 30 years. They've done it through practical steps in conservation and efficiency.

'During the same 30 year period, energy demand in the rest of country, skyrocketed by 50%. California's flat. We've all gone up 50%.

'Now, did California get left behind? Did people flee California because it was no longer a good place to live? Just the opposite. It has prospered. A study released earlier this year by the University of California Berkeley found that cutting greenhouse gas emissions to 1990 levels by 2020, through further improvements in efficiency, could create more than 1 million new jobs in California alone. And if American electricity use had fallen at the same rate as California use, our whole country would be using 43% less electricity today. So when I'm President, increasing energy efficiency quickly will be priority one. We will set a goal of reducing electricity demands 20% by 2020.

'We must change the way utilities make money. Today the incentives are backwards. The less we conserve, the more carbon we emit, the more money utilities earn. We'll change that with energy efficiency targets for utilities and incentives for saving power instead of generating more of it. This seemingly simple change, called decoupling, has transformational potential because utilities are in the best position to help businesses and families make investments in efficiency. Fourteen states already have some form of efficiency goals for utilities and more utilities are embracing that as well. Decoupling permits a utility to invest in efficiency. Duke Power and other utilities have committed to go beyond that. They are offering energy audits to all of their customers. They're helping their customers come up with plans to cut consumption and to finance the implementation over 20 to 30 years, as if efficiency gains were mini-power plants.

'It works like this: the installation of solar power and cold resistant glass and other improvements cut your utility bill 30%. The utility pays the upfront cost of those improvements and then a portion of the efficiency savings goes to you to cut your bills, and the other goes to the utilities to pay off the cost of the improvement.

'You get a lower utility bill, they get more power with no more CO2 emissions. In the process a lot of jobs are created - installing the new product, manufacturing, distributing and selling. The system is user friendly, faster, cheaper and more labor-intensive than building a new power plant.

'A lot of people who build things for a living, say 'well, but if we don't keep building power plants, we're going to lose jobs.' It's just the contrary. If we're building millions of mini-power plants we're going to create more jobs. That's what I want to see for us. Once we have nationwide decoupling, every utility should implement this type of system and maximize efficiency before building any new power plants.

'And that's just the beginning. At your office, you probably have a desktop computer, a thousand times more powerful and half the price than computers available 20 years ago. An i-pod can hold more songs than you can listen to in a month. We can talk to anyone, anywhere, at any time using 21st century information technology, which has transformed our economy. But all of this depends on a power grid all but unchanged in half a century. It is time to start building a 21st century grid.

'Right now the system runs on auto-pilot. The only connection between your home and the grid is the power you draw. But what if we harnessed all of the advances in information technology?

'Imagine if you could time your air conditioner, or your dishwasher or you dryer to turn on when demand for power was less and the cost lower. Imagine if you could charge your car in your garage at night, and sell power back to the utility when your car is parked at work during the hours of peak energy demand. Imagine if you could sell back the excess power you generate with solar panels on your roof. Imagine if the system could manage the stresses on the grid continuously, cutting peak demand to avoid brown outs, conserve power and save money.

'Just a 5% drop in peak demand would save $35 billion in energy costs over 10 years. We can harness this technology. As President I will fund ten "Smart Grid Cities," provide smart grid tax incentives to utilities and encourage state utility commissions to provide incentives as well. We will also make appliances more efficient, saving consumers $54 billion between now and 2030.

'You know the EPA's successful Energy Star program provides valuable information to consumers about how to save energy and save money by purchasing more efficient products. Let's take it further and create a Climate Star initiative, to provide consumers with information to compare the carbon footprints of products that they buy.

'We will also phase out the incandescent light bulb -- the technology that Thomas Edison pioneered. I think Thomas Edison would support this idea. In fact, he'd probably be there helping us develop the replacements -- from L.E.D.s to compact fluorescents. Compact florescent bulbs - they may look funny - they use a quarter the amount of energy and last 5 to 10 times longer than the typical incandescent bulb. If we move to compact fluorescent, or other equally energy saving alternatives, we will cut our national electric bill by more than $10 billion over just 8 years. '

[Full text here.]

[Now this, from Cato Institute senior fellow Jerry Taylor (presumably a libertarian), via email:

"Hillary Clinton's energy plan -- if it were in fact carried out -- would substantially increase the price of new automobiles, transportation fuel, and electricity as a means of combating climate change. But instead of forwarding an intellectually honest case regarding the costs and benefits of her plan, the senator is selling her energy program as a grand 'free lunch' that imposes no costs on anyone save fat-cat CEOs in big fossil fuel corporations. Two questions naturally arise. First, if Sen. Clinton's plan has merit, why does she feel compelled to engage in intellectual fraud? Second, how will the public react when it discovers that the Senator's free lunch isn't in fact free at all?"]

Tomorrow: A "major" speech from Obama. So says his campaign:

'In a major policy address tomorrow in Bettendorf, IA, Barack Obama will announce his plan to change Washington and reclaim the American Dream for working families across the country. At a time when costs are rising and Americans are working harder just to keep up, Obama's comprehensive plan will provide relief for the middle class and support for working people. Obama has fought for working Americans his entire public life, and he will discuss how he will stand up to special interests and bring America together to reclaim the American dream.'

Yeah, but what's it ABOUT?


Hillary makes Secret Service buy a hybrid, we learn from CNN (next, she should try public transit):

CANDY CROWLEY: So it occurred to me to ask, chez Clinton,
what are you all doing in terms of energy conservation?

CLINTON: We are really making an effort, Candy. Bill and I have dived
into this trying to understand what to do. We have an old farmhouse
outside of New York, not exactly built to be energy efficient.
And what we have done is change out all our bulbs, including track
lighting to alternatives to the incandescent bulb. We are adding
cold-resistant and sort of much more air-proof windows.
We are looking at, you know, upgrading our heating and cooling system
and making them more energy efficient. We have really taken it to heart.
And you know, we have a hybrid vehicle. Of course it is a Secret Service
But we encouraged them to buy one for in and around town, going in and
out of New York City. And so we are trying. And so we wanted to do this
ourselves to really understand what it would take to do it.'


Kevin Drum announces the Golden Wingnut Award. This piece was the winner.

Here's Garance on "secondary conversations."

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Posted by: Anonymous | November 6, 2007 10:43 AM | Report abuse

Hi, Martooni. Hi, Cassandra.

Posted by: daiwanlan | November 6, 2007 10:49 AM | Report abuse

Both of these approaches actually have a lot going for them, except, of course, we are electing a president and not a king (or queen.) There is just so much that the Pres can do, especially with a divided Congress, when it comes to reshaping the fundamental nature of our economy. Which isn't to say that they shouldn't try, obviously. It's just that what will really help, at least in the short-run, is simply using a lot less energy.

Posted by: RD Padouk | November 6, 2007 10:50 AM | Report abuse

We have a Marine in our office. She is still delighted by Navy's victory. Even though I pointed out that to defeat Notre Dame is to risk the wrath of Rome.

She seems remarkably unconcerned by this.

Posted by: RD Padouk | November 6, 2007 10:52 AM | Report abuse

Also, I just wanted to point out that the phrase "risk the wrath of Rome" is a lot of fun to say.

Posted by: RD Padouk | November 6, 2007 10:53 AM | Report abuse

I have a vewy gweat fwiend in Wome.

Posted by: byoolin | November 6, 2007 11:03 AM | Report abuse

I am feeling very old at this moment while everyone rejoices at Navy beating the Irish after such a LONG time, I just realized that that LONG LONG LONG ago year was the year I was born.

So, McCain is going to get rid of the Corn and Sugar subsidies - that should go smoothly.

Posted by: dmd | November 6, 2007 11:04 AM | Report abuse

Whenever people start throwing around energy goals, I get nervous. Sometimes the desire for efficiency runs afoul of physics. Say that three times fast.

Posted by: yellojkt | November 6, 2007 11:05 AM | Report abuse

Also sounds like another day of S'nuke biting his tongue.

Posted by: yellojkt | November 6, 2007 11:06 AM | Report abuse

I would disagree, but that would probably risk the wrath of rabid rodents.

Posted by: SonofCarl | November 6, 2007 11:07 AM | Report abuse



Posted by: Scottynuke | November 6, 2007 11:12 AM | Report abuse

Nice speeches, both of them.

Regrettably, with Congress incapable of doing much beyond providing sugar plums through the appropriations process, wouldn't it be a nice idea for presidential candidates to emphasize the power of the veto, combined with things the Executive Branch can do on its own in collaboration with the States?

Posted by: Dave of the Coonties | November 6, 2007 11:15 AM | Report abuse

President McCain vs. the sugar and ethanol lobbies would not be a pretty sight. Sort of like Carter vs. the US Army Corps of Engineers

Posted by: Dave of the Coonties | November 6, 2007 11:21 AM | Report abuse

The sugar lobby has been getting a lot of news lately. As a brief South Florida resident more than a decade ago, I equate the sugar lobby with the Fanjuls, but it seems that sugar beet farmers like to exercise their muscle as well. As with all tariffs, the intent is to coddle a domestic market and deny revenue to emerging nations that rely on agricultural products to kick start their economies.

Posted by: yellojkt | November 6, 2007 11:33 AM | Report abuse

Does this mean that McCain won't approve a grant to develop my Perpetual Motion Machine? Dowgh!

Posted by: CowTown | November 6, 2007 11:50 AM | Report abuse

It is refreshing to see candidates offering substance on such a crucial issue. I sadly fear that the electorate, however much it may demand such statements in public, is ill-inclined to pay attention. I find that folks's eyes glaze over after a few extra syllables.

Or maybe that's just me.

Posted by: Ivansmom | November 6, 2007 11:54 AM | Report abuse

Perhaps we could push a research program which would reconfigure high fructose corn syrup for energy use. Given the cost and energy use required to make high fructose corn syrup, it won't really help our goals of energy independence or low-cost alternatives. It would, however, justify the continuance of the sugar and corn subsidies, and make the folks fighting obesity happy.

Posted by: Ivansmom | November 6, 2007 11:58 AM | Report abuse

November 2, 1963- 20 days later the President of the United States came to our town and gave a speech before getting in a car with the governor and going to Dallas. We listened to the speech in our high school classrooms. Then around lunch time came the word...

Posted by: kurosawaguy | November 6, 2007 11:58 AM | Report abuse

It's nice that Senator McCain is getting all "substantive" and all. He's still going to have to reveal to the General Electorate which Democrats have called for the U.S. to surrender to the Iraqi Insurgents, as he has claimed in the past. He's still a strong practitioner of Roveian propaganda politics, despite his new found "substantivism."

Posted by: CowTown | November 6, 2007 12:14 PM | Report abuse

Nov 2, 1963 11 days later ancient quarterback Vinnie Testaverde was born.

McCain sudden substantiveness may be caused by a severe case of low polls that refuse to budge upwards.
Using the economic might of the USA to lavish money on the agricultural commodity industery defies common sense. Why are the people and the other industries subsidizing this particular business? The mind boggles.

Posted by: shrieking denizen | November 6, 2007 12:36 PM | Report abuse

Don't feel too bad dmd, I was already 2 when that game happened, you young whipper snapper you.

What a terrible game for the Ravens last night.They set several franchise records for futility last night.It was all but over even before the first quarter was over. Oh well I watched the whole mess and still enjoyed some of it.

I just brought up my boats from the river for the winter. Windy and cold here in west by god today. Still very pretty foliage all around and lotsa leaves to rake up.

Have a good day all!!!

Posted by: greenwithenvy | November 6, 2007 1:10 PM | Report abuse

I think the technical term for where I was the last time Navy beat Notre Dame is "in utero".

My next door neighbors are big fans of the Drunken Micks (and is that any less offensive than the actual name) and it's been a rough year for them. As an Irish Catholic, my dad severely disappointed my grandmother by not going there. To this day, it's the only football team she ever expresses interest in.

Posted by: yellojkt | November 6, 2007 1:43 PM | Report abuse

I was a senior in high school. We were doing "The Caine Mutiny Court Martial" right about then. (I was Capt. Queeg.) I thought Roger Staubach and Joe Bellino were terrific (little did I know what despicable future lay in store for the mighty Staubach).

Posted by: Curmudgeon | November 6, 2007 1:48 PM | Report abuse

re: agricultural subsidies. I think it's fair comment to say that the Europeans started it. It's also understandable that no one wants to outsource food production. It's one thing to have line ups at gas pumps...

It's also politics 101 that in a federal system, the representatives from state/province X are going to be primarily concerned with X's primary industry. X's representatives form part of the legislative body, and often can be inordinately powerful in relation to actual size and population due to usually complex historical reasons that seemed like good ideas at the time.

Frankly, it's a miracle anything ever gets done.

yellojkt, in ye olde law talk you were "en ventre sa mere" in 1963.

Posted by: SonofCarl | November 6, 2007 1:53 PM | Report abuse

"en ventre sa mere" in 1693 sounds like being shipped as an indentured servant to Barbados or Virginia to pay off your debts.

For me, 1963 would have meant leaving Puerto Rico for Delaware, where the beaches never seemed worth visiting.

Posted by: Dave of the Martin | November 6, 2007 2:03 PM | Report abuse

did anybody follow that rice donator vocab link in Gene's chat:

I don't follow the claims of never going below 44. Everytime I restart I answer several questions correctly and it never starts the score higher than 40.

Posted by: omni | November 6, 2007 2:04 PM | Report abuse

I shall be on-kit this this. My twin brothers -- identical -- embody the Navy-Notre Dame game in his way:

BCS is a Notre Dame graduate of 1990;
DPS is a Navy graduate of 1991.

They were both history majors, however, at Navy, this means you are a civil engineer, practically. They are clones. They both rejoiced, lifting a glass in unison but spread over the miles. I believe that friendly swear words were exchanged by phone.

Both teams claim God's deepest allegiance.

Posted by: College Parkian | November 6, 2007 2:05 PM | Report abuse

The game adusts your score based on cumulative right answers. You need several right answers in a row to get it started. I stayed between 38 and 42 the whole time. These wordsmiths bragging about 45+ scores spend too much time reading their thesauruses (thesauri?).

Posted by: yellojkt | November 6, 2007 2:12 PM | Report abuse

I was about the same yello, with multiple 50/50 decisions I made incorrectly again, terribly addictive.

Posted by: dmd | November 6, 2007 2:16 PM | Report abuse

SD, if you farmed you would understand. I did farm, I do understand why and yes they can be very neccessary in this day and age.

Look at what commodity producers the kind of things a commodity producer can do to affect the price he charges for his material. Then look at how much control a farmer has over the price he is paid for his product.

Posted by: dr | November 6, 2007 2:16 PM | Report abuse

What's wrong with Staubach Mudge? Here is a Navy guy who had a decent enough football career after actually serving in the Navy. I know he played for a despicable team, he gives money to McCain and owns a Nascar team but still. He got beaten twice by the Steelers in Superbowls, that had to count for something.
dmd, I was 3 during that game, don't despair. What really aged me was the Fungi's 20th birthday last weekend. I remember coming back from the hospital like it was yesterday. I heard the announcement of former PM René Lévesque's death on that morning.

Posted by: shrieking denizen | November 6, 2007 2:17 PM | Report abuse

Shriek the worst part is I had kids late, so I am older than you with much younger kids, there are days I feel very old. Rene died 20 years ago?

Posted by: dmd | November 6, 2007 2:23 PM | Report abuse

I think you may have misunderstood me yello. I've restarted the link several times and it always takes four answers before showing a score and with four correct answers it always starts at 40. So how could someone claim to never go below 44 if it never starts at 44 or higher.

Posted by: omni | November 6, 2007 2:23 PM | Report abuse

It is interesting how your brothers' roads diverged in a wood one night, CP.

None of my brothers are remotely clone-like to each other. Common abilities and vaguely related appearance, is about it.

As for the politics word origin quiz-- 10/10. I didn't get outside the Beltway soon enough.

On the bright side, this MUST mean I am totally qualified to write a political column, right? I even have a name for it.

"Wilbrod's Forge"
(Beating the Nonsense out of Political Punditry.)

BTW DbG-- I snorted at the bleeding from papercuts comment, last boodle.

Posted by: Wilbrod | November 6, 2007 2:23 PM | Report abuse

and 60 years ago today 'Meet the Press' made its television debut (started out as a radio show in 1945). It is now the longest-running television show in United States broadcasting history.

Posted by: omni | November 6, 2007 2:28 PM | Report abuse

shriek, what pro team did Staubach play for, and where did/does Mudge live?

Staubach played for the Cowboys. One thing Philly and Washington fans can agree on is that they *hate* Dallas.


Posted by: bc | November 6, 2007 2:31 PM | Report abuse

Wilbrod, identical twins are the most amazing experience....plenty of woo woo, Twilight Zone moments and these two are not at all wacky, pyramid-energy believing dudes.

Clones -- and extremely different. The studies about twins demonstrating extreme similarlity usually concern id. twins not raised together.

Posted by: College Parkian | November 6, 2007 2:37 PM | Report abuse

Completely off this topic but onto a previous one, I see that tonight's Nova is on Sputnik.

I'm looking forward to watching this tonight...


Posted by: bc | November 6, 2007 2:37 PM | Report abuse

Yep, he was at an Halloween night card game with some friends when he collapsed. I think he was pronounced dead on Oct. 31 but the news was announced in the morning of Nov. 1, 1987. The French papers had bits about it last weekend for the 20th anniversary but I understand that the G&M, The National P and T-Star would skip it.

dr, the US subsidies (and EU's as well, but in a different way) for commodity crops (such as soyabeans, rice, sugar and king corn) were bad, but now they have become insane. Large corporations reap billions of dollars in subsidies. This is not to support the mom&pop farms anymore.

Posted by: shrieking denizen | November 6, 2007 2:40 PM | Report abuse

sastruga = wind-formed snow ridge

(From the addictive word-power quiz; and Yello, some of us are paid to read such books about words :) )

I like the idea of going on Halloween in a card game with friends.

A colleague tells the story of a friend who died in his late 70s during a nap, after *ahem* mutual exercise with darling wife of 35+ years, a retirement party for him, and a summer spent in Prague, BUT BEFORE grading 100 papers.

Sounds good to me.

Posted by: College Parkian | November 6, 2007 2:46 PM | Report abuse

Well, it's a good thing I'm retired, I would be totally unproductive at work with FreeRice. I got as high as 47 once or so.

Sometimes I cheated by looking at the Compact OED site, but what do you do but guess when the word's not in the OED? Jeez.

Okay, now I'm going to vacuum.

Posted by: Slyness | November 6, 2007 2:57 PM | Report abuse

Shriek, in hindsight compared to some in Quebec politics today, Rene is looking better and better. I did read one article on him lately but did not equate it with the anniversary of his passing. As for the N-Post it is not good for my blood pressure and I tend to avoid it.

Posted by: dmd | November 6, 2007 2:59 PM | Report abuse

I believe the proper term for my whereabouts on the date in question would be "in follicle."

Half of me, anyway.


Posted by: Scottynuke | November 6, 2007 3:00 PM | Report abuse

Slyness -- from vocabulary-building to vacuuming, your day sounds very full. BTW, I sometimes vacuum with duct pick up threads from sewing.

Posted by: College Parkian | November 6, 2007 3:00 PM | Report abuse

I think the brag is meant that a person never drops below 44 once they get to that score.

And no disparagement of your professional skills, CP, but these are not words most people need. I get at least half of my guesses right from silly SAT tricks.

Quite a while back I posted a link to math problems used in national high school math league competitions. Same level of uselessness.

Posted by: yellojkt | November 6, 2007 3:04 PM | Report abuse

CP, I cleaned the bathrooms before I sat down to read the boodle and play FreeRice. I wish that made me saintly, but since I hadn't done any housework at all in about three weeks, it doesn't. Of course, we were gone for about half that time, but still.


Posted by: Slyness | November 6, 2007 3:18 PM | Report abuse

Although I'm sure I would find much to argue about with Roger Staubach the person, I always admired him as a player. He had a quality beyond confidence. He knew, his team knew, and his opponents knew that he could by himself pull out a victory in the last minutes with phenomenal regularity. There are only a few QBs I have seen with that quality- Montana, Unitas, Elway. There are plenty of others with the same or better stats as these guys, but not that same quality. Yes, superior Steeler teams beat Dallas in two SBs, but not because they had a better quarterback. Add to that the fact that he fulfilled his Naval obligation before starting his football career and that he decided to retire (in my view sensibly) after receiving several concussions in a single season, rather than play on to the bitter end as so many do.

Posted by: kurosawaguy | November 6, 2007 3:20 PM | Report abuse

We agree, YJ. The funny thing is that writing peeps know tonnes of words BUT WE KNOW to mostly NOT use them. We are credentialed to play word games or coach for the SAT, but, like soldiers, trained NOT TO USE OUR WEAPONS.

Here are some student-faves that I try to scrub away from their prose:


But I also want them to stop writing:

have issues (meaning problems)
today's society
fast-paced world of business (insert your field)
top (dog, chef, pick)

And these funny ones:

head hauncho
lynch pinch
sang Freud
phallopian tube

Posted by: College Parkian | November 6, 2007 3:21 PM | Report abuse

Yeah, just me being my usual nitpicker self.

It was weird the number of words I knew not from ever having looked them up but from understanding the meaning in the context they were used in a book I read, such as redoubt from a Herbert SciFi (I think 'The Lazarus Effect' or 'The Jesus incident') and a few more that for the life of me I can't remember. Another interesting thing is that almost every time an animal is a possible answer it is the right answer.

Posted by: omni | November 6, 2007 3:22 PM | Report abuse

Oh, and I got to level 49 on the rice word thing, but you have to play several times to get past about 47. The vocabulary is arcane, but somewhat repetitive. Leave and come back and you'll probably see some of the ones you missed earlier.

Posted by: kurosawaguy | November 6, 2007 3:24 PM | Report abuse

SOC: //Frankly, it's a miracle anything ever gets done.//
Story of my life. :-)

Score: 44 when I got tired.

Thanks, Wilbrod!

Just finished inputting all the credit card slips from the show into my online transaction handler. Surely I can't be correct remembering I won't see that money until the start of next month? On the other hand, they also sent me a FOR DEPOSIT ONLY self-inking stamp with my name, business name and account name, and, well, I guess it doesn't take much to amuse me.

Have a great day, everyone. I'm going to take a nap so I can go to Yoga tonight.

Posted by: dbG | November 6, 2007 3:26 PM | Report abuse

I got as high as 45, but then usually quickly plummet. I've donated 450 grains of rice over three or four sessions and I'm already repeats on the words. Not that I get them right the second time around.

Posted by: yellojkt | November 6, 2007 3:27 PM | Report abuse

Does anyone know how the rice clicker works....meaning do the donations really happen? I recall a click-and-donate-a-mammogram a few years back.

Posted by: College Parkian | November 6, 2007 3:29 PM | Report abuse

CP, the rice site is legit. The adverts pay for the rice. When you start playing, logos for Office Depot and Liz Claiborne, etc. appear on the screen and the longer you stare at the screen the more they pay.

Posted by: kurosawaguy | November 6, 2007 3:36 PM | Report abuse

I got as high as 49, but that'd only last once before I made mistakes and brought myself down.

Yellojkt, a lot of those obscure terms are:

Biological (I caught some taxonomic terms)
15th-19th century literature

If you have a strong interest in all those, you'll do well.

Gene W., as far as I know does have medical, poetic, and musical interests. I'm not so sure about the biological part, but I do assume he's reasonably well-read in stuff predating the 20th century.

Also, knowing your latin and greek roots gives you a fighting chance with the words you haven't seen quite like that before.

Although, I would quarrel with some of the definitions given for a few words.

E.g. "Confabulate" does NOT mean 'chat', it means to make up stuff; confabulation is a medical symptom of memory loss and brain damage, especially in alcoholics.

I enjoyed the quiz and learned a few new words on the way, because it corrects you when you make a mistake. Very addictive.

That one bugged me.

Posted by: Wilbrod | November 6, 2007 3:38 PM | Report abuse

I hover around 44 once I get my score up, but on two separate occasions I got up to 2000 grains donated. Many times I got the word wrong I'd swear the right word wasn't there, so obviously I need to take a break and rest my eyes.

Posted by: omni | November 6, 2007 3:41 PM | Report abuse

BTW, if those were engineering terms and all-- Trebuchets, catapults, seige towers, mortar, you'd do better, right, Yello?

I did see some civil engineering-type terms in there.

Posted by: Wilbrod | November 6, 2007 3:43 PM | Report abuse

If you read the Kit headline with enough slipshod haste, you might think Navy beat Notre Dame, McCain & Clinton. I bet they could too.

I've avoided this word test given my inclination to word obsession. I do believe, college parkian, that your excellent editing instincts might disqualify you from many law school writing programs. I speak from observation only and wish it were not true.

Posted by: Ivansmom | November 6, 2007 3:44 PM | Report abuse

CP, the copious list of words that you vilifed has left me disenfranchised. Far be it from me to foment sang Frued, but I cannot see how you can have issues with them. On numerous occassions, I utilize these words, albeit improperly, but for effect.

Nonetheless, I yield to your most awesome parameters.

Posted by: Don from I-270 | November 6, 2007 3:44 PM | Report abuse

Wilbrod is exactly right about the roots. It felt a little eery to me to get so many words right I had never seen before. Felt sort of like I am smarter than I am.

Posted by: omni | November 6, 2007 3:48 PM | Report abuse

What you say is absolutely true, SD, but that is not happening here at all, except in very rare instances in certain industries. It is entirely possible that we will go the same way. It probably will as long as you treat food as a commodity with prices being set by everyone but the producer. But you cannot get rid of one without getting rid or drastically changing the other. Won't work, can't.

I have deleted much vitriol here. I am truly surprised at how much, but it seems some days those very strong feelings I have about farming are a lot closer to the surface.

Posted by: dr | November 6, 2007 3:49 PM | Report abuse

I just thought of something as I was packing up to call it a day. I have a Webster's Scholastic Dictionary in my backpack. And it's almost completely worthless. Nine times out of ten the word I'm looking up isn't in it.

Posted by: omni | November 6, 2007 3:52 PM | Report abuse

When in doubt, charge by the syllable.

Wonder whether this would work as well in warfare as in writing?

How many words beginning with "w" will I wrest to my will?

Forgive me. I just went through four months of back bar journal issues and apparently can no longer complete a concise sentence.

Posted by: Ivansmom | November 6, 2007 3:59 PM | Report abuse

I can see I'm going to be donating a lot of rice in the near future. That's one addictive little setup!


Posted by: Scottynuke | November 6, 2007 4:16 PM | Report abuse

CP, add to the list:

materials (should be singular most of the time)
informational (as in the truly awful "informational brochure," as though there was some other kind)
partner (used as a verb)
firstly, secondly, thirdly, thusly
multiple (instead of many, or even instead of "two," i,e, a woman has multiple bre@sts)
that instead of who
individuals (instead of people)
putting (s) at the end of a singlular noun(s) in case there may be a plural usage but you're too dumb to understand that idea (a legalism, in other words)
using a slash instead of "and" such as "people who were driving cars/trucks had many crashes..."

Posted by: Curmudgeon | November 6, 2007 4:17 PM | Report abuse

I tend to view sentence construction as if sending a telegram -- each word costs (and boy can words cost a lot sometimes). The fewer words, the better. The process forces me to be more precise in language choices. Also saves on paper.

Posted by: LostInThought | November 6, 2007 4:17 PM | Report abuse

Cozening brochure
Pretty brochure
Volputuous brochure
Self-promoting brochure
Dime-shill brochure
Peer-reviewed brochure
Macaronic brochure
Ersatz brochure
Engimatic brochure

If only people had the imagination, brochures could become so much more than merely informational.

I've never understood "Persons". What's wrong with people, people?

Posted by: Wilbrod | November 6, 2007 4:25 PM | Report abuse

"Waste words, then cull them."
I tend to write by that maxim.

Posted by: Wilbrod | November 6, 2007 4:27 PM | Report abuse

Mudge comment: in the truly awful "informational brochure," as though there was some other kind...
Yes, they are called government brochures or disinformational brochures. The ones leaving you scratching your heads after having read them.

Posted by: Shrieking Denizen | November 6, 2007 4:33 PM | Report abuse

SCC head
Although Cerberus could be scratching his heads.

Posted by: Shrieking Denizen | November 6, 2007 4:34 PM | Report abuse

Here I thought that the Boodle was a group of persons who utilize myriad informational materials to achieve copious transformational paradigms in numerous areas and foment discussion of today's society irrespective and irregardless of potential enfranchisement or disenfranchisement of the opinions of individuals.

Posted by: Ivansmom | November 6, 2007 4:37 PM | Report abuse

Even I eschewed "meme".

Posted by: Ivansmom | November 6, 2007 4:38 PM | Report abuse

Please add "methodology"

Ivansmom, bless you.

Posted by: SonofCarl | November 6, 2007 4:40 PM | Report abuse

You thought all that, Ivansmom? How can you walk through your brain with that verbal clutter?

Posted by: Wilbrod | November 6, 2007 4:43 PM | Report abuse

Ivansmom, you a lawyer?


Posted by: Slyness | November 6, 2007 4:52 PM | Report abuse

"Eschew memes."

Words to live by.

Posted by: Curmudgeon | November 6, 2007 4:58 PM | Report abuse

I missed the words *synergy* and *leverage,* Ivansmom. Otherwise, you made me choke on iced-tea.

Posted by: dbG | November 6, 2007 5:05 PM | Report abuse

Yep, slyness; billing by the syllable for that cautionary tale, at 95 syllables (give or take) I reckon the Boodle owes me . . . well, I'll present the shop steward my bill.

Posted by: Ivansmom | November 6, 2007 5:05 PM | Report abuse

I don't suppose I could talk you into a professional discount, could I, ivansmom? See, we're a little short this month...

(Actually, I'm a little short every month. Been that way since junior high school.)

Posted by: Curmudgeon | November 6, 2007 5:09 PM | Report abuse

Wear a sweater, save the planet.

Posted by: Jimmy999 | November 6, 2007 5:18 PM | Report abuse

Waitaminute! Mudge, you're a writer, I hope YOU aren't on strike!

Posted by: Slyness | November 6, 2007 5:21 PM | Report abuse

Ivansmom, there are no words...


Posted by: dr | November 6, 2007 5:27 PM | Report abuse

What have you got against memes?
Little thought particles, passed along, that help a culture survive.

"Do you really want to kill your father?"
"Don't look at your sister like that."

See? Nothing but helpful.

Posted by: Boko999 | November 6, 2007 5:32 PM | Report abuse

There is also the recyling of bathwater for all the members of the family Jimmy999.

Posted by: Shrieking Denizen | November 6, 2007 5:32 PM | Report abuse

Buddy999 may insist on being the first to dive in though.

Posted by: Shrieking Denizen | November 6, 2007 5:33 PM | Report abuse

Every environment as it's own lingo.

My optic on the situation in the field is that this is a high visibility effort that leverages many inter-departmental synergies. Lacking any top-down guidance the long-pole is clearly lack of realtime resource management. Once we get our nose under the tent there is a chance we will get them them to undo their Kimono.

Posted by: RD Padouk | November 6, 2007 5:40 PM | Report abuse

And then there are acronyms. This actually appeared in my inbox recently.

Since you are COTR of record I need to stress that the CO is worried that the SSJ might not pass IG review. Further, the SOW doesn't seem to fit CP criteria, and we don't have a BLI for CT.

Posted by: RD Padouk | November 6, 2007 5:51 PM | Report abuse

CP criteria? I am flushing with power at the thought! Off to pick up exhausted marching banders, take them through BK for comestibles, and then drop them off for an hour of blues/jazz jamming in a sound proof basement.

They play something that is one part Green Day/one part Herbie Hancock and a bit of the Average White Band....very punk-funk-garage band uneven cool.

Posted by: College Parkian | November 6, 2007 5:55 PM | Report abuse

44 and had enough.

My latest brainstorm is to use the "solids" from the waste-water treatment facilities to grow sugar cane, and make ethanol from that. I generally disapprove of using such on edible products. "Hey, you kids get out of that sugarcane patch! It's destined for fuel! It's nasty, I say!"

Posted by: Jumper | November 6, 2007 6:05 PM | Report abuse

"...comestibles..."!!! A word that has only previously ever appeared anywhere except in the Playboy Advisor column!!! Well done, CP!

Posted by: Curmudgeon | November 6, 2007 6:07 PM | Report abuse

An editorial in out local rag kinda speaks to goobeldygoop.
It's agin it.

Posted by: Boko999 | November 6, 2007 6:18 PM | Report abuse

And today's WSJ has a front-page article which refers to a banker's "trenchant" decision. There's a word you don't often see.

Thanks, RD, for that scintillating perspective. It is nice to know that the grass is not in fact always greener on the other side.

Mudge, I'll waive the fee if y'all will fax me a nice treat. Perhaps some wine and a few of those chocolate covered coffee beans. Or a cup of coffee and a piece of cherry pie. Hold the fish, please.

Posted by: Ivansmom | November 6, 2007 6:23 PM | Report abuse

Joel, although I disagree with the tone of that Jerry Taylor post, I do agree that both sides aren't really owning up to the pain factor.

Love the "secondary conversation" bit. I'm still trying to decide if it really is a lady thing, or if women just tend to be more open about secondary conversations than are men.

Posted by: RD Padouk | November 6, 2007 6:30 PM | Report abuse

RD, I hope the SOW is not a person. That would be unfortunate.

It had better not be someone's nickname, and if it is you'd better kow tow or it's the hoose gow.

Posted by: SonofCarl | November 6, 2007 6:32 PM | Report abuse

SOW means Statement Of Work. It's the legal document that defines just what the government wants a contractor to do.

Posted by: RD Padouk | November 6, 2007 6:37 PM | Report abuse

RD, thanks for mentioning the "secondary conversations" thing. I like it and think it has some validity, though I have a lot of guy friends who get in on our secondary conversations too. When you mentioned it, I actually realized that Joel added to the Kit. I am so slow sometimes.

The Boy is, as we speak, playing a game from Addicting Games called "Interactive Buddy". I don't fully understand the principle (something about starting with a blob and earning "money") but his blob now has the skin of George W. Bush and he is attacking it with various items, including baseballs and babies. I'm so proud.

Posted by: Ivansmom | November 6, 2007 6:42 PM | Report abuse

That sounds like procurement. I hope they don't have you setting up honey traps.

Posted by: Boko999 | November 6, 2007 6:43 PM | Report abuse

Heavens no Boko999. I've only heard about those from the movies.

But, alas, part of my job is to help the government spend money.

Posted by: RD Padouk | November 6, 2007 6:47 PM | Report abuse

Ivansmom - my daughter is playing something involving animated Pinatas. I don't begin to understand. My comprehension of video games peaked with "Centipede."

Posted by: RD Padouk | November 6, 2007 6:58 PM | Report abuse

Well RD, if whatever agency you are purported to work for needs someone to scour the nether regions of Canada's capital and fill them in on the real poop, I am ready, willing, and able to make up whatever your masters want to hear. Reasonable rates.

Posted by: Boko999 | November 6, 2007 7:04 PM | Report abuse

Boko - that's not my gig, but I could make a few calls. Although I don't think Canada is considered, you know, a major worry by those folks.

Fools that they are.

Posted by: RD Padouk | November 6, 2007 7:20 PM | Report abuse

Viva Pinata is supposed to be very fun. My son has a game where you use the Wii controller as a scalpel and perform surgery.

I saw the Golden Wingnut nominees earlier and am shocked that Ben Domenech aka Red Nation Blogger came in dead last. Once again WaPo just falls on its face.

Posted by: yellojkt | November 6, 2007 7:24 PM | Report abuse

"very fun"?
Do you get out much?

Posted by: Boko999 | November 6, 2007 7:37 PM | Report abuse


Posted by: Anonymous | November 6, 2007 7:47 PM | Report abuse

Hello, my friends. I'm afraid to talk, I mean write. I'm so bad at it, and with all the talk of correct writing and words, this post will not be long.

The "secondary conversation" piece was good. The energy talk by McCain and Clinton was interesting, but as Ivansmom said my eyes tend to glaze over when one gets in-depth.

Ivansmom, love the long sentence, and do you really bill by the sentence?

I voted today, and did my missionary work since my daughter is home. I love missionary work because I get a chance to talk about Christ, tell others about how good He is to me, and how He will be good to them also.

I'm tired and the bed is calling me. Hope your day was good, folks. I kept thinking about all of you today while out, and of course, said a little prayer for all.

God loves us so much more than we can imagine through Him that died for all, Jesus Christ.

Posted by: Cassandra S | November 6, 2007 8:02 PM | Report abuse

The password is *comestibles* (said in the sacred husky voice of that game show)

CP notches one on the stick called Mudgeworthy.

In college, an earnest group hoping to become a club someday advertised an evening of

convivial comestibles and conversation

The only people who showed up were the three of us who designed and mimeo'ed the flyer. We hoped to found a philosophy-in-action club. We should have written

free food and drink; rap session.

Rap session? Ah yes. Those were the days.

Posted by: College Parkian | November 6, 2007 8:08 PM | Report abuse

CP-you would have been welcome as a charter member of MACHO. The Marxist Anarchist Cowboys' and Horsemen's Organization was a loosely organized group at first dedicated to philosophy-in-action. We mostly ended up drinking and playing Frogger on $1 pitcher night.

Head "hauncho" cracks me up.

Posted by: frostbitten | November 6, 2007 8:47 PM | Report abuse

Hi all... I'm glued to the meager election results. "Talking" online with Son of G. This is fun.

Posted by: TBG | November 6, 2007 8:50 PM | Report abuse

Even more remarkable than Staubach doing his Navy obligation was that he spent the year after high school graduation at New Mexico Military Institute getting up to speed academically for the academy. He remains more than a minor god at NMMI, Mr. F's high school and junior college alma mater.

Posted by: frostbitten | November 6, 2007 8:50 PM | Report abuse

I took the freerice quiz thingy, and I feel comfortable reiterating my claim as the Jackson Pollock of the English language.

Words are tools we humans employ to convey thoughts, ideas, and information. Like any tools, they can be used or misused, they can help or hurt, they can cause us to feel emotions, and to move us to action.

Interestingly, they're one of the few tools where people have to agree on their relative usage.

And that's where the trouble starts, people.



Posted by: bc | November 6, 2007 8:59 PM | Report abuse

No. No I don't. What's your point?
I have never played Viva Pinata, nor have I seen anyone play it. Some tech podcasts that I listen to think it's fantastic. I apologize for passing on hearsay.

I'm more of a Wii bowler.

Posted by: yellojkt | November 6, 2007 9:01 PM | Report abuse

Looks like our local station is not following the school district's operating levy referendum. For excitement tonight I'll have to follow Virginia election returns online.

Speaking of Virginia. I e-mailed a friend today after hearing news of a Prince William County elementtary school principal's body being found in a park.

frostbitten-I was relieved to hear that you were not the dead principal they found.

she-So was I.

Posted by: frostbitten | November 6, 2007 9:19 PM | Report abuse

It's just that "very fun" is wrong on so many levels.

Posted by: Boko999 | November 6, 2007 9:20 PM | Report abuse

My daughter thinks Viva Pinata is very fun.

And no, she doesn't get out much.

Posted by: RD Padouk | November 6, 2007 9:32 PM | Report abuse

I'm watching the Board of Elections website for returns. The mayor is winning by a landslide, even though I didn't vote for him. The repeal of the transit tax is losing big, yay yay yay! I argued with my hairdresser about it this morning. Amazing how shortsighted people can be. More cars and more road are not the feasible answer to our transportation problems.

Posted by: Slyness | November 6, 2007 9:41 PM | Report abuse

Man, I am always shocked by the low turnout for these local elections. I mean, in some ways they are more important than the Federal elections.

Posted by: RD Padouk | November 6, 2007 9:43 PM | Report abuse

They were predicting a 51% turnout for us in Washington state, but they may not get that. Which brings up my eternal question - how accurate are the voter rolls that they base turnout on? People move, die, without telling the election board.

I voted absentee - and after I signed the envelope and sealed my ballot in it - I realized I hadn't put the ballot in the "security" envelope first. So I had to unseal it, put the ballot in its envelope, then put that in the outer envelope - and tape it shut. Not sure if my vote counts this time!

Posted by: mostlylurking | November 6, 2007 10:04 PM | Report abuse

RD... voter turnout in Fairfax City was 40%. That's INSANE.

That's also why Chap's kicking Jeannemarie's butt. Woo hoo.

Posted by: TBG | November 6, 2007 10:05 PM | Report abuse

We had a 5% participation rate on the school board election last Sunday. Down 1% from last year. Democracy in action. I campaigned to have the school and municipal election at the same time but the Christian groups routinely winning the school board elections are not buying it. It's just annoying to have a bunch of Christian grand-parents running the schoolboards, they just don't get it.

Posted by: shrieking denizen | November 6, 2007 10:20 PM | Report abuse

I'd gladly fax you chocolate-covered coffee beans, ivansmom, if I had some, but they aren't my thing. That's Padouk's guilty pleasure of choice, I believe. However, even as we speak I am cooking up a 10-quart pot of my incredible beef vegetable soup, and will gladly fax you a tureen or two -- possibly even a small dun -- if you'd like. I made a pot of it two weeks ago, and it was to die for. This one may be worth killing over.

I don't have a cherry pie on the horizon, but Thanksgiving is coming and one never knows when the cherry pie mood might strike. That being so, I'll put your name on the voir dire.

Posted by: Curmudgeon | November 6, 2007 10:21 PM | Report abuse

I think the reason for low voter turnout for local elections is because the TV production values and network coverage are so poor.

Give local elections the budget, production
and network time slots of "American Idol" or "Dancing with the Stars," and you could have 100 million people voting in them...

Oh, some good screen writing would be helpful, too. Too bad those folks are on strike at the moment...

On a side note, I see that a local solar system is now up to five planets and counting:

They're all gas giants, which makes me think that they're either Bachman Turner Overdrive's reunion tour (including the other Bachman brother, Tim), or the St. Louis Rams' offensive line.


Posted by: bc | November 6, 2007 10:23 PM | Report abuse

Remember when we all laugh at Bin Laden position's that oil should have a minimum price of US$100.00? It's US$96.70 now. There is a tall skinny Saudi laughing softly in a cave in North Pakistan right now.

Posted by: shrieking denizen | November 6, 2007 10:26 PM | Report abuse

The second headline on the WaPo homepage, about Pakistan:

"A Deeping Sense of Anxiety."

Deeping? Oh, puh-leeze. Somebody get some d@mn copy editors over there.

Posted by: Curmudgeon | November 6, 2007 10:29 PM | Report abuse

We have some kind of telepathic connection Mudge. I scored 12 leaks for $5 at the farmer's market last Saturday and made cock'a'leaky soup with turkey stock (cock'a'turkey soup?). Pureed in a blender it becomes the hoity tooty "Potage Parmentier". I served it in its glorious plain form. I am still basking in the light of the reviews.

Posted by: shrieking denizen | November 6, 2007 10:36 PM | Report abuse

Changes are happing too fast in the English language Curmudgeon.

Posted by: shrieking denizen | November 6, 2007 10:40 PM | Report abuse

I got up to 49 on the vocabulary game, but was unable to maintain it for long.

Posted by: StorytellerTim | November 6, 2007 11:03 PM | Report abuse

Ee like to do furry-deeping.

Posted by: Wilbrodog | November 6, 2007 11:05 PM | Report abuse

Nobody can, SciTim. I suspect every level has a set of vocabulary words and once you hit level 49 they bring out the really big guns.

Posted by: Wilbrod | November 6, 2007 11:07 PM | Report abuse

Mudge, will you share your incredible beef vegetable soup recipe? I love homemade soups. I made Southwestern Turkey soup over the weekend. From the "Cooking Light" magazine Nov '07 issue. Delicious. Practicing for turkey day leftover meals.

The long dark evenings are always so hard to get used to.

Posted by: birdie | November 6, 2007 11:31 PM | Report abuse

The vocabulary game is fun!

Posted by: birdie | November 6, 2007 11:34 PM | Report abuse

Rise and shine, boodle!

Posted by: dbG | November 7, 2007 5:03 AM | Report abuse

Good morning, friends. Election results are in and we have a new mayor. The old one getting beat pretty bad by the new one. The town of Dobbins Heights, an African-American village has a new mayor too. Lot of the incumbents getting voted out.

Slyness, I see Mayor McCory is still with you, and the voters are keeping the repeal tax, is that correct? At the rate the mayor is going, he should be able to retire from the job. A big boast for public education with the winning of the bond referendum.

Morning, Scotty, Mudge, and all.*waving*

Have a good day, folks. Time to get ready for the bus or not?

Busy day, Wednesday. I love it.

God loves us so much more than we can imagine through Him that died for all, Jesus Christ.

Posted by: Cassandra S | November 7, 2007 5:29 AM | Report abuse

'Morning, Boodle, Cassandra, dbG. "Rising" I've learned to tolerate, but "shining" this early is something quite out of my reach, dbG. Or as Browning once said, "A man's reach should.....zzzzzzzzzzzzzzz."

OK, birdie, I'll post the recipe after I get to work this morning.

I'm glad to see that study showing obesity and being overweight aren't quite the death sentences all the health nazis make them out to be. I'm sure the counterattack is already well underway, of course.

I clicked on Joel's link to the Golden Wingnut award, and was suitably appalled at the findings. I was especially appalled at the name of the number 5 candidate. Jeez, the hypocrisy. (I have to admit I haven't yet read that person's column yet.) But the winner, John Hinderaker, begins is prize-winning (prize-loosing?) July 2005 piece hilariously, as follows:

"It must be very strange to be President Bush. A man of extraordinary vision and brilliance approaching to genius, he can't get anyone to notice. He is like a great painter or musician who is ahead of his time, and who unveils one masterpiece after another to a reception that, when not bored, is hostile."

Clearly, Arbusto is a Bach, a Motzart. Maybe a da Vinci or a Michaelangelo, it's kinda hard for us lesser mortals to hone in on exactly how brilliant he is.

Onward and upward.

Posted by: Curmudgeon | November 7, 2007 6:09 AM | Report abuse

Mornin' all...

Like Mudge, I got the "rising" part down, but never figured out "shining".

Waiting for my morning meds to kick in and Bean and Mrs. M to get their butts out of bed and Bean ready for school.

I think the last time I "shined" was sometime in 1971.

The energy speeches were a good read. McCain, to me, is in over his head. He proposes an interesting solution, but it would never fly. Hillary's is a little more sellable, but I don't see utility companies ponying up the cash to replace all of America's windows and light bulbs. Unless they figure out the right combination of carrot and stick, nobody is going to change anything. What that combination is is beyond my frazzled brain's ability, but neither of these plans is more than a pipe dream.

Mrs. M is up and about and giving me dirty looks (I think she wants to check her eBay), so...

Peace out :-)

Posted by: martooni | November 7, 2007 6:50 AM | Report abuse

The Wingnut winner is a masterpiece of delusional thinking, but the Michelle Malkin video is nearly enough to cure me of my cheerleader fetish.

Posted by: yellojkt | November 7, 2007 7:07 AM | Report abuse

Caught Ron Paul on CNN a moment ago; since I do not believe in politics so early in the cycle I'll limit my comments to these (I had the sound off):

Mr. Paul looks very earnest and thinner than most Republicans out there.

Mr. Paul has jet woolly-caterpillar eyebrows.

Mr. Paul does not sport an upper lip.

One could make a sock puppet of Mr. Paul but this would require a trip to the craft store to buy black chenille pipe cleaners.

Posted by: College Parkian | November 7, 2007 7:27 AM | Report abuse

G'morning, all. I slept in, having stayed up past my bedtime to check election scores. It is a good day. Yes, Cassandra, the voters overwhelmingly endorsed the transit tax, which funds the bus system and other means of mass transit, including light rail. Today is a very good day!

Cassandra, I hope the new mayor will be a good leader for your town. My understanding is that elected officials in NC participate in the Local Government Employees Retirement System, so yes, our mayor will qualify for a pension if he stays long enough. He's already vested. However, he's a part-time employee who makes about $21,000 annually, so his pension won't be large.

Posted by: Slyness | November 7, 2007 7:29 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: Anonymous | November 7, 2007 8:01 AM | Report abuse

If I'd known about the Golden Wingnut Award I'd have nominated a few blogs I know...

Oh wait, those would qualify as Golden Psychos, actually...


*Happy-Hump-Day Grover waves*


Posted by: Scottynuke | November 7, 2007 8:03 AM | Report abuse

RD, your 5:51 post last night kinda shook me up. I was zipping through all the posts that had occurred after I left work. I glanced at yours, understanding it completely, without a second thought, and was already moving on to the next post. Then the little voice in my brain asked, "Why is RD posting this?"

"This is supposed to be a real-life, laughable, example of uninteligible gubbermintspeak". Oh, OK. Kinda like telling a mother-in-law joke to your mother-in-law; especialy when the joke is, like, real life.

Posted by: Don from I-270 | November 7, 2007 8:04 AM | Report abuse

Ai chihuahua... Just saw an ad for a Channel 7 news item, "Get the Facts on Frankenfoods," which tells me there's a fairly low likelihood of facts actually being involved.


Posted by: Scottynuke | November 7, 2007 8:16 AM | Report abuse

Don - Wow, you speak Acquisition too? It is my experience that those who do this full time (I just dabble whenever the need arises) can spit out these terms like watermelon seeds.

Remember - the FAR is your friend.

Posted by: RD Padouk | November 7, 2007 8:20 AM | Report abuse

And I just wanted to say that although I found Nicholson's performance in "The Shining" powerful, I felt that Kubrick really never understood the dynamics of King's novel.

Now where did I stash those coffee beans.

Posted by: RD Padouk | November 7, 2007 8:24 AM | Report abuse

I agree that Frankenfoods don't worry me Scottynuke.

What has me all upset is this crazy notion that we can safely use electromagnetic radiation in the Gigahertz frequency range to induce exothermic molecular resonances in our food.

That just ain't natural.

Posted by: RD Padouk | November 7, 2007 8:34 AM | Report abuse

It's mighty tasty tho, RDP.


Posted by: Scottynuke | November 7, 2007 8:39 AM | Report abuse

"Clearly, Arbusto is a Bach, a Motzart. Maybe a da Vinci or a Michaelangelo, it's kinda hard for us lesser mortals to hone in on exactly how brilliant he is." Curmudgeon, comparing George W. Bush to the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles is an insult to the TMNT.

Posted by: kurosawaguy | November 7, 2007 8:42 AM | Report abuse

Good morning, all--

For the second day in a row the most boodle-worthy article in the Miami Herald came from the Post.

Desson Thompson attempts to fill Joel's "Why Things Are" void, wittily answering the question, "Why do we cry at the movies?"

Nice metaphors, like, "dislodges the sandbags of our inner levees" and "But as boys take the testosterone highway and women the estrogen bike path, their responses differ."

Posted by: kbertocci | November 7, 2007 8:43 AM | Report abuse

The Virginia Senate is now officially blue! YES!

Slyness... so glad to see the repeal defeated (does that make sense Boodlers?)

Posted by: TBG | November 7, 2007 8:53 AM | Report abuse

RD, apparently I'm not as fluent in Acquisition as I thought. I understood your 5:51 perfectly until I got to "we don't have a BLI for CT." Translation por favor?

Posted by: Raysmom | November 7, 2007 8:54 AM | Report abuse

Morning all. Our school board's operating levy referendum went down by a 2:1 margin. Turnout was immense. With same day registration some precincts had vote totals approaching 100%.

Most of us in outlying areas of the county vote by mail in general elections but because the school districts don't encompass whole counties in MN we vote in person when a school levy is the only thing on the ballot. I think the school board was counting on low turnout so education zealots and parents would carry the day. What I heard from my constituents was that the school system had pI$$ed off even those natural allies.

Posted by: frostbitten | November 7, 2007 8:58 AM | Report abuse

BLI mean Budget Line Item. It is the internal code used to reference a specific authorization to spend. CT refers to Counter Terrorism.

Posted by: RD Padouk | November 7, 2007 8:59 AM | Report abuse

I can watch dry eyed any number of dying cancer patients and kids shooting their rabid pets in movies, but no matter how many times I see "The Seven Samurai" I always tear up at the end when Kyuzo and Kikuchyo are killed in the final battle with the bandits.

Posted by: kurosawaguy | November 7, 2007 9:00 AM | Report abuse

TBG, I see that Cuccinelli is leading by only 91 votes. If he ends up winning, I'm sending him an e-mail saying "Razor-thin does not equal a mandate. Get with the program."

Posted by: Raysmom | November 7, 2007 9:02 AM | Report abuse

One thing that was not addressed in that article I think is interesting and I've never seen any research on it. It's obvious that a sad scene is much more likely to induce tears if there are violins playing in the background. Why is that? Even though we are conscious of it and we make fun of it, it still works.

Posted by: kbertocci | November 7, 2007 9:03 AM | Report abuse

I'm undecided on whether to laugh or scratch my head in confusion...


Posted by: Scottynuke | November 7, 2007 9:11 AM | Report abuse

TBG and Raysmom-it looks like both Cuccinelli and Stuart need to realize they are from purple, not red districts. Just a 597 vote margin for Stuart in those NoVA outer burbs. The last time I voted there I think the only reason the democratic challenger filed was so the incumbent would not run unopposed.

Posted by: frostbitten | November 7, 2007 9:14 AM | Report abuse

S'nuke- I think that's a head scratcher. Wasn't Rudy supposed to be a candidate who could win the general election? Won't be able to do that by pandering to the base.

Posted by: frostbitten | November 7, 2007 9:17 AM | Report abuse

Dave Albo, one of the Va House Republicans, was running unopposed but still only got 87% of the vote, with 13% going to "Write-In."

He's the same guy who co-sponsored the Abusive Driver Fees, or what we like to call the "Albo Traffic-Law Firm Abusive Driver Fees."

Posted by: TBG | November 7, 2007 9:21 AM | Report abuse

Thanks for the translation RD.

Re: crying at movies. As a teen, I cried myself sick over Brian's Song. But I refused to cry at the end of E.T. because I felt I was being manipulated into it. Not sure what the difference was.

Raysdad tends to lose it when good guys bite the dust. For example, the XO in Hunt for Red October or the title character in the Glenn Miller story. Let's not even talk about Saving Private Ryan.

Posted by: Raysmom | November 7, 2007 9:24 AM | Report abuse

TBG, in my house, Albo is known as That Man In The Pocket of Wine Distributors.

frosti, it looks like Rudy is making the same mistake as Cuccinelli. Over the weekend, we got a flyer from the latter, touting his anti-abortion views. I said, "Way to lead with your chin. Those guys are already on your side."

Posted by: Raysmom | November 7, 2007 9:31 AM | Report abuse

Hehehehe, TBG, the vote for the repeal was 38,074, MANY FEWER than the 48,000 signatures required to put it on the ballot. Supporters of the transit tax raised over half a million dollars to make their case, supporters of repeal only raised $12,000.

The guy who started it paid for a firm to come in and circulate petitions to put the tax on the ballot. IIRC, they had to work hard to get the required number of authentic signatures. About halfway through the campaign, the media discovered that this person is a complete sleazeball and he had to leave town. Literally. I suppose, now that the referendum is over, that it's good we had this airing of the issues and the people spoke so loudly.

Also good to see that the Virginia Senate moved into the blue.

Posted by: Slyness | November 7, 2007 9:32 AM | Report abuse

I don't imagine this surprises anyone, Raysmom, but I always tear up when Kirk & Spock say their goodbyes in "Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan."

And no, let's not talk about "Saving Private Ryan." *not-so-surreptitious wiping of the eyes*

Posted by: Scottynuke | November 7, 2007 9:35 AM | Report abuse

I think that good movie music, music that enhances and intensifies the experience of film, almost always builds upon prior association. Just as viewers learn a visual vocabulary- dissolves denote the passage of time, etc.- so do listeners associate certain sounds and certain instruments with emotions. When you hear a saxophone that frequently means sex, not love but sex. Accordion music is associated with Paris, and so on. Violins will frequently be used in situations of intense emotion. Consider the shower scene in "Psycho", possibly the best ever use of editing and music combined. Music in films in the form of character leitmotifs is very effective shorthand in establishing an audience mood. Think "Jaws", "Superman" or any of the John Williams movie themes, "GWTW", "The Lord of the Rings", etc., any film where there are multiple plot lines and intercutting, or a film with a big momentum shift like "Rocky".

Posted by: kurosawaguy | November 7, 2007 9:43 AM | Report abuse

My husband teases me all the time because I rarely tear up at the end of movies while he is usually a mess. The Glenn Miller story is one of a handful of movies that I do tear up at.

Was just flipping through sites I regularly read and saw a post on a recent speach given by our Chief Justice of the Supreme Court Beverly McLaughlin, the speech concerns freedom of the press and democracy. It is the subject that convinced me to change my major from Journalism to Law and History, I found myself so interested I decided to continue study in an area where constitutional law was a frequent topic.

Here is the speech,

and the orignal post, by a MacLeans writer who covers Parliament Hill.

Posted by: dmd | November 7, 2007 9:45 AM | Report abuse

"Clearly, Arbusto is a Bach, a Mozart. Maybe a da Vinci or a Michaelangelo, it's kinda hard for us lesser mortals to hone in on exactly how brilliant he is."

You know, Mudge, those masters were gainfully employed and admired during their lifetimes. Even if Michelangelo's "Last Judgement" was updated with loin cloths and Mozart's freelance business strategy was risky.

I really can't think of any presidents who were lionized only after they were dead.

For unappreciated, maybe Eakins, Emily Dickinson, Bizet? Apparently "Carmen" horrified the critics. Vulgar!!!! And Bernstein's West Side Story lost the Tony to "Music Man". Duh. Maybe there's a place for Arbusto.

Posted by: Dave of the Coonties | November 7, 2007 9:47 AM | Report abuse

The first movie I saw after my father's death was "Winged Migration."

In terms of more ordinarily tearful movies, the Italian miniseries (which played as a two-part movie), "Best of Life" was extraorinarily affecting.

Posted by: Dave of the Coonties | November 7, 2007 9:53 AM | Report abuse

You all know my feelings towards Mr. Hot Air, but does anyone else see a "please ask me to run" motif in here? *L*

Posted by: Scottynuke | November 7, 2007 9:54 AM | Report abuse

There is a story about how producers originally wanted to release "The Lost Weekend" without music, but test audiences just found it laughable. But once music was added, it became anything but.

And sometimes movie music will take on a life of its own. I still have a hard time listening to Kermit sing "The Rainbow Connection."

Of course, I am notorious for getting teary eyed at movies. Which is shocking because, I am, you know, so rugged in real life.

I am a sucker for those over-the-top "heroic" moments. You know, like in "Babe" when Farmer Hoggett says, "That'll do, pig. That'll do."

Gets me every time.

Posted by: RD Padouk | November 7, 2007 9:57 AM | Report abuse

S'nuke-I think you have solved the writers' strike problem for the Daily Show and Colbert Report. Can't you see Jon Stewart reading that Dobbs piece verbatim? Just imagining it being delivered with appropriate, or inappropriate, intonation and expression had me giggling.

Posted by: frostbitten | November 7, 2007 10:01 AM | Report abuse

Good morning! Cassandra, many lawyers do get paid by the word, at least in part, but I've preferred the security of a gummint salary. I don't make as much money as those fancy lawyers do, but I have the luxury of writing well (that is, using fewer words) without anyone suspecting my commitment to the job.

Congratulations to those of you with positive election results. With a 2001 vote combining a city sales tax and bond issue, which proved to be a good investment, Oklahoma City finally turned the corner on our public education problems (that is, on our citizens' mistrust of the school board). Last month we overwhelmingly passed a bond issue for infrastructure and maintenance. It is great to see government working.

Posted by: Ivansmom | November 7, 2007 10:03 AM | Report abuse

RD, watch James Cromwell in "LA Confidential" a couple of times. That'll wipe Farmer Hoggett right out of your memory.

Posted by: kurosawaguy | November 7, 2007 10:03 AM | Report abuse

If you want a good cry without watching a movie, listen to violinist Joshua Bell perform "The Poem".

Or "While My Guitar Gently Weeps".

The other one that completely kills me is Samuel Barber's "Adagio for Strings". (I know that some aficionado's consider it lame, but I literally am unable to move when I hear it).

Strings resonate, I believe, at the DNA level.

Maybe I'm more attuned to them, being a guitar player, but sweeping solos performed on stringed instruments just seem to grab me and it's impossible for me to do anything until the end.

Put on anything with a slow rhythm in a minor key and I'm doomed. It's like kryptonite.

Call it "martooni's string theory", but I think there's something more to it than just sound waves. I've had some close encounters with wind instruments, but it's the strings that always do me in.

So I'm off to listen to Eric Clapton coax tears and wails from his guitar on the CD player out in the shop. And make some doors, too.

Peace :-)

Posted by: martooni | November 7, 2007 10:06 AM | Report abuse

Martooni, I have read that violin music is the closest musical sound to the human voice. That might be a clue.

Posted by: kbertocci | November 7, 2007 10:13 AM | Report abuse

RD, yes, I speak Acquisition. I'm also fluent in: Integrated Logistics, Project Management, Budgeteering, and Engineering. I'm a freeking Berlitz!!

I just don't so spel so purdy good.

Posted by: Don from I-270 | November 7, 2007 10:18 AM | Report abuse

kbertocci - I think you are right. Both have really strong harmonics (multiples of the base pitch) that give them a sense of depth and emotion. I guess that's why they say a guitar can cry and sing. And Yo Yo Ma on the cello? Like listening to an Aria.

k-guy - gotcha on that James Cromwell observation. He really disappears into a role. He reminds me of Christopher Guest that way.

Posted by: RD Padouk | November 7, 2007 10:20 AM | Report abuse

Tears. In my case, tears beget tears. I can't see anyone else tear up without crying, too. That's in movies and real life. I'm such a sap.

Posted by: TBG | November 7, 2007 10:21 AM | Report abuse

Don - sitting on my bookcase is a book called "Information Technology Project Management" that I am supposed to read. It's by a woman called Kathy Schwalbe. I'm doing my best. Lord knows I'm trying. But so far the most inspiring part of the book is the picture of the author.

Posted by: RD Padouk | November 7, 2007 10:23 AM | Report abuse

New kit.

Posted by: yellojkt | November 7, 2007 10:56 AM | Report abuse

I cannot believe that anyone didn't notice Cromwell in all those Star Trek episodes, as well his unforgettably crazy Zefram Cochrane.

Or 6 Feet Under, or Jack Bauer's crazy dad in "24".

He always makes me cry.


Posted by: bc | November 7, 2007 11:00 AM | Report abuse

be prepared (meaning have hanky handy):

In Aranjuez with your love
Aranjuez, a place of dreams and love
Where a rumour of crystal fountains in the garden
Seems to whisper to the roses

Aranjuez, today the dry leaves without colour
Which are swept by the wind
Are memories of the romance you and I once started together
And that we've forgotten without reason

Maybe that love is hidden in one sunset
In the breeze or in the flower
Waiting for your return

Aranjuez, today the dry leaves without colour
Which are swept by the wind
Are memories of the romance you and I once started together
And that we've forgotten without reason

In Aranjuez, my love
You and I

Posted by: omni | November 7, 2007 11:04 AM | Report abuse

Padouk, you had me at "Pig." (Channeling Jerry McGuire.)

LOL, scotty. Yes, Lou sure does seem to think the best candidate might be...well, modesty prevents him from naming names.

Posted by: Curmudgeon | November 7, 2007 11:17 AM | Report abuse

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