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By Joel Achenbach  |  March 25, 2008; 8:31 AM ET
 
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Um, izzit the Quaker Oats College?

Posted by: Scottynuke | March 25, 2008 8:46 AM | Report abuse

Repost from bottom of last boodle:

The journal Bioscience just published an analysis of last year's disastrous "Easter freeze" that wiped out peaches and wreaked havoc on natural vegetation. The authors' concern is that with warming climate, occasional late-season outbursts of Arctic air may be more damaging than in the past.

Here, it was 45 this morning. Must be nasty to the north.

Couldn't a statue of a muscular, youthful Ben be installed at that West Philly establishment? Ben probably looked like Rocky in his youth, what with that swimming and working at the press.

Posted by: Dave of the Coonties | March 25, 2008 8:48 AM | Report abuse

No visit to Swarthmore? One of the classiest places to get a rejection letter from. My dermatologist somehow got in.

Posted by: Dave of the Coonties | March 25, 2008 8:50 AM | Report abuse

Is that Haverford at the top? My nephew wanted to go there until he visited and fell in love with Maryland's own St. Mary's.

My sister was relieved, tuitionwise, but a little disappointed, snobwise.

He absolutely loved St. Mary's by the way. A nice, quiet school on the water. With in-state tuition that can't be beat.

Posted by: TBG | March 25, 2008 8:52 AM | Report abuse

The second shot looks Princetonish, and the third may be Franklin and Marshall. I'm not familiar enough with either place to be positive.

Posted by: kurosawaguy | March 25, 2008 8:52 AM | Report abuse

Bryn Mawr? sort of guessing...

Posted by: Jumper | March 25, 2008 9:01 AM | Report abuse

Yes, the second shot looks very princetonish but isn't princeton. But that building looks like Blair Hall, kinda, sorta.

I'm sure someone will weigh in with the Trifecta. Must hit the road now...

Posted by: Achenbach | March 25, 2008 9:01 AM | Report abuse

The three are: DeVry, Phoenix College Online, and Kay Kyser's Kollege Of Musical Knowledge.

What do I win?

Posted by: byoolin | March 25, 2008 9:04 AM | Report abuse

Okay, I'm changing my #3 to U. Penn.

Posted by: kurosawaguy | March 25, 2008 9:09 AM | Report abuse

Good morning, all.

I'm trying to ignore those future tuition check-kiting destinations.

On a side note, I did manage to watch a fair bit of the PBS Frontline special "Bush's War."

All I can say after watching that was, with Cabinet members like this, who needs enemas?

Seriously though, the documentary posits the idea that Rice and Powell were kept out of the loop from what was going on between the DoD, the Intelligence agencies, Rumsfeld and Cheney.

Granted, not really news, but I did chuckle at some of the still photography used of Administration and agency heads.
Unflattering, to say the least.

bc

Posted by: bc | March 25, 2008 9:10 AM | Report abuse

Good morning, all.

I'm trying to ignore those future tuition check-kiting destinations.

On a side note, I did manage to watch a fair bit of the PBS Frontline special "Bush's War."

All I can say after watching that was, with Cabinet members like this, who needs enemas?

Seriously though, the documentary posits the idea that Rice and Powell were kept out of the loop from what was going on between the DoD, the Intelligence agencies, Rumsfeld and Cheney.

Granted, not really news, but I did chuckle at some of the still photography used of Administration and agency heads.
Unflattering, to say the least.

bc

Posted by: bc | March 25, 2008 9:10 AM | Report abuse

#1 is definitely Haverford.

Posted by: kurosawaguy | March 25, 2008 9:11 AM | Report abuse

The bottom is clearly U Penn. I would have to ask the wife about them others.

Posted by: RD Padouk | March 25, 2008 9:11 AM | Report abuse

I'm gonna guess that number 2 is Villanova because they like that gray stone, but so does Princeton.

Number 1 would fit real well on the Bennington campus but that is way up in Vermont.

Posted by: yellojkt | March 25, 2008 9:13 AM | Report abuse

Haverford, Bryn Mawr, and F & M, I believe

Posted by: Smithie | March 25, 2008 9:18 AM | Report abuse

The middle one is Bryn Mawr. But I cheated and googled.

Posted by: dr | March 25, 2008 9:18 AM | Report abuse

Cassandra, I thought about you when I saw this. Are you getting enough vitamin D?

http://www.charlotte.com/living/columnists/karen_garloch/story/551072.html

No news yet on the four found murdered yesterday. I'll check in with the police officer in the family and see if there's anything on the internal grapevine.

Repost from last Boodle:

Dave, 31 here in the Carolinas this morning. I did the walk in full winter regalia: earmuffs, fleece-lined gloves, Cuddleduds, heavy jacket. I sure HOPE we don't have a repeat of last year's Easter freeze; it was catastrophic.

Cassandra, I'm with you on toilets. Gotta keep them presentable and smelling okay. Mr. T gave me cleaning service for a wedding present (my housekeeping wasn't up to his standards). It was delightful, although we did have some funny episodes. One week the person cleaned the hardwood floors with my mop and an oil-based cleaner; the next person used the mop on the kitchen floor and it was a mess! I gave the service up when he had to buy the truck, after the fire department moved him to a new position and took his vehicle away. One thing about retirement, now that I'm home and looking at it, I do keep the place cleaner.

Posted by: slyness | March 25, 2008 9:24 AM | Report abuse

SCC: On the Double Post, fie upon me.

Can't tell if that's a statue of Benjamin Franklin, John 'Bluto' Blurarsky, or Dewey Finn out in front there.

A fine school, any way you look at it.

bc

Posted by: bc | March 25, 2008 9:29 AM | Report abuse

1. Haverford
2. Bryn Mawr
3. University of Pennsylvania

Now for something more productive!

Posted by: kurosawaguy | March 25, 2008 9:31 AM | Report abuse

Dag, these spring allgergies are kicking my backside.

SCC: "Blutarsky"

Oh well - it wasn't over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor, and it's not over for me when I follow up a double post with a real SCC, either.

Oy.

bc

Posted by: bc | March 25, 2008 9:32 AM | Report abuse

No. 1 is Haverford, possibly Barclay Hall.

No. 3 is most definitely College Hall at Penn (founded by Franklin), which is where the admissions office is located, somewhere around Walnut or Spruce Streets at about 35th (more orless; in that area the streets are often not continuous).

Posted by: Curmudgeon | March 25, 2008 9:41 AM | Report abuse

I'm rather sure that's the Big Ben place at the bottom. The campus moved from Center City, so the oldest buildings aren't as ancient as the ones at suburban colleges.

Posted by: Dave of the Coonties | March 25, 2008 9:41 AM | Report abuse

Total change of subject... any Safari users out there make sure to update to the new Safari 3.1. The way it handles PDF files is amazing... like having Acrobat open in your browser. At least it does on the Mac... I assume it's the same on Windoze.

OK.. public-service announcement over... go back to work. Er.. I mean boodling.

Posted by: TBG | March 25, 2008 9:46 AM | Report abuse

Wong Foo, Girls just wanna have fun!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l_-CR8Umy6w


Now back to the swamp pits of working for a living.

Posted by: omni | March 25, 2008 9:46 AM | Report abuse

Ha ha! Thanks omni!

It takes a lot of man to look that beautiful as a woman!

Posted by: TBG | March 25, 2008 9:53 AM | Report abuse

The middle photo is of Pembroke Hall (East on the left, West on the right) at Bryn Mawr College. Walked under that arch nearly every day for four years, how could I not recognize it?

Posted by: BMC '78 | March 25, 2008 10:00 AM | Report abuse

TBG, how's the FIOS? Is it all working?

They're excavating...er...installing in my neighborhood and dropped off a flyer with an offer for TV, Internet, and phone for $104.99. But LOTSA small print.

Posted by: Raysmom | March 25, 2008 10:00 AM | Report abuse

What is about founding colleges that makes it so tiring that they have to sit down for their statue?

Here is Johnny up in Cambridge.

http://flickr.com/photos/yellojkt/453223960/in/set-72157600060420972/

Too early to guess what is on the Mass itinerary? I'm prediction Harvard, Boston College, Tufts, and Rhode Island School of Design.

Posted by: yellojkt | March 25, 2008 10:03 AM | Report abuse

Snow just stopped, highs to be in the low-mid 20s today. This is the winter of our discontent.

Looking at all these potential Achenbreaking tuition bills has us counting our blessings that Frostdottir has thrown in the towel on a 4 year degree at this point in her life and is pursuing a two year program in crime scene investigation. Perhaps she'll someday be one of those older and wiser "non-traditional" students. In the meantime I am probably more relieved than she to have her off the treadmill of frustration her birth mother put her on in utero. We'll probably use her college savings to help her buy her first home.

Posted by: frostbitten | March 25, 2008 10:12 AM | Report abuse

Raysmom... the FiOS is great. We don't have the Internet yet, because in true Verizon form, the person who signed me up insisted it wasn't available. I kept asking how can the cable be coming to my house but one component isn't available and she kept saying she didn't know.

So.. the Internet will be hooked up on April 10. But the TV service is awesome. We've got a TiVo HD with 2 FiOS cable cards on our main, HD, TV in the family room. Upstairs we've got the standard FiOS DVR box. We got ALL the channels (except for the foreign-language options) and the phone, Internet and TV will run about $140 a month. That's a good $60 less than we probably were paying for them from separate sources (DirecTV, Cox internet and Verizon copper-wire service).

The phone switchover was simple because we were already Verizon phone customers. I have a feeling if you're an AT&T local-service customer it will be a nightmare, as it was when my dad moved 2 miles and switched from AT&T to Verizon.

[He was without phone service for THREE WEEKS and it turned out all that had to happen was a switch flipped in the basement of his retirement building. Neither the AT&T guy nor the Verizon guy would do it, claiming it was the other's responsibility. The director of the retirement home finally got a friend to come in and flip it.]

But anyhoo... my phone service is the same. Even the voice mail recording of my then-four-year-old (and now 14) daughter's voice is still there. The installer was incredibly nice and patient. There were some glitches as he was new to the cable-card thing, but he wouldn't leave until we had a picture. They do install a box inside your house with a battery backup for the phone that must be near a power outlet (it's plugged in I guess charging).

So all in all.. I'd say go for it. If they're still digging it may not yet be available.. but call and find out. It's nice to be giving Cox Cable some decent competition... they've been so awful around here for so long.

Posted by: TBG | March 25, 2008 10:14 AM | Report abuse

Oh, RISD, good thought. And you can cross-register at Brown, just for fun. (Of course, he didn't mention RI, but there's not really enough of it to count as its own state.) Or do you think they'll head to the western part of the state? Amherst? Williams?

Posted by: bia | March 25, 2008 10:15 AM | Report abuse

Your welcome TBG. And Happy Independence Day: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greek_War_of_Independence

Posted by: omni | March 25, 2008 10:16 AM | Report abuse

Slyness

You may be on to something about the Vitamin D. I'm not out in the sun a lot, but do enjoy sitting sometimes on the porch in the sun. That is, when I can sit down for a minute. But if the skin blocks getting the Vitamin D from the sun, then there's a problem. I'm certainly not looking forward to swallowing another pill, but just might need to.

Anyone know a good brand of vitamins I can take? I used to take Centrum, but with my medications, I think there was a problem. Didn't feel good, so I stopped taking them, but I know I need vitamins.

Posted by: cassandra s | March 25, 2008 10:17 AM | Report abuse

Thanks again, omni. Today is a big day in Greece... also the Feast of the Annunciation.

Today is the beginning of our salvation,
And the revelation of the eternal mystery!
The Son of God becomes the Son of the Virgin
As Gabriel announces the coming of Grace.
Together with him let us cry to the Theotokos: :Rejoice, O Full of Grace, :The Lord is with You!

Posted by: TBG | March 25, 2008 10:21 AM | Report abuse

Howdy y'all. It is nice to see such impressive college buildings. You just know with a building like that, you'll get a good solid education. Fundamentals. Basics. Also, you don't have to worry that your tuition money is just going to fancy glittering new architecture. Glamour. Dazzle.

All colleges should have a building like these prominently displayed, to reassure potential students and parents. Even if the college was founded last year. If necessary, borrow a building. If University of Phoenix had used impressive old buildings for its distance learning, it might not be in such trouble now; how could inefficiency or malfeasance exist in such fine quarters?

Posted by: Ivansmom | March 25, 2008 10:22 AM | Report abuse

... all I hear is "chi-ching, chi-ching" when I see those photos... Joel, why don't you send your kids up here? I think it's better value for your money.

Let me explain... I have a friend from University who went to teach at a university in N.Y. and he had so many students taking their Masters who had come from some very fine universities including Ivy League. Many of these students were completely illiterate, couldn't write an essay. He failed some of them because of it and he was fired from his job. How do you explain that? He's back in Toronto teaching again and relieved to be back, although he loved N.Y.

Posted by: Miss Toronto | March 25, 2008 10:25 AM | Report abuse

re. PBS' Bush's war
bc, I was also amazed by the number of still pictures showing the Dark One in the background, always looking his own malevolent self. His slime seems to be all over the worst stuff this admin has done. Pretty neat for an non-elected fellow.

1. Looks too expensive
2. Seems unaffordable
3. Got a bad financial vibe about that one if the admission building looks that good.

I read the boodle this last weekend but as I did it early in the morning I was in a mood too morose to comments. Why? This is the coldest Easter weekend I can remember. From Good Friday to this morning, the temperatures I read on the kitchen's window thermometer before the Puppy's early out: -12C/10F, -14C/7F, -16C/3F, -18C/0F and -16C/3F. High winds on Friday and Saturday meant even lower windchill factors. The snow is turning into ice instead of melting. Enough already. I need Spring, pronto.

The only good thing is that we can legitimetely keep on cooking Winter fare. In addition to the MIL's big Easter feast Sunday I made an Italian dinner Saturday (spaghetti alia e olio followed by pork chops pan roasted in a wine/tomato/cream sauce with an aside of braised finocchio&parmesan) and fondue bourguignonne last night. I badly need to exercise now.


Posted by: shrieking denizen | March 25, 2008 10:25 AM | Report abuse

I will confirm k-guys guesses of

Haverford:
http://www.haverford.edu/abouthaverford/

Bryn Mawr:
http://www.mainlinerealestate.com/bryn_mawr_history.htm

Penn:
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image:Ben_Franklin_sculpture_(University_of_Pennsylvania).JPG

Posted by: yellojkt | March 25, 2008 10:28 AM | Report abuse

Good morning all
Thanks to all your good thoughts and caring vibes, my mothers surgery was sucessful and she will be returning to her home later today. I will be there to take care of her for the next several days.

Thanks yall,you people are really the best friends anyone could ask for.

Posted by: greenwithenvy | March 25, 2008 10:32 AM | Report abuse

Queens University of Charlotte is a small campus with nice, elegant, collegiate brick buildings. But they also have a beautiful brick clock tower in the center of campus. I asked the admissions counselor while we were first touring the campus, "What's the story of the clock tower?" figuring there was years of history and traditions.

"Oh, it's only a couple of years old," she said. "It's a cell tower."

That simple innovative idea sealed the deal for me.

Posted by: TBG | March 25, 2008 10:32 AM | Report abuse

Harvard has a porch? Cool.

Posted by: CowTown | March 25, 2008 10:34 AM | Report abuse

GWE... glad to hear your mom's doing well!

Posted by: TBG | March 25, 2008 10:34 AM | Report abuse

Wow, TBG -- our holidays OVERLAP!! Courtesy of Wiki, I copy and paste this for you (us!).
Annunciation = Ευαγγελισμός της Θεοτόκου

CPDot1 reads ancient Greek (Latin, too).

I think I like FIOS, but still having some email glitches. Am about to begin with Google as my main email, with the old address (since 1989!) to be forwarded. Boodler-geniuses: will I be unhappy using webbased email only? What is the downside?

Posted by: College Parkian | March 25, 2008 10:36 AM | Report abuse

GWE, you are a wonderful son. God bless you both. Sending rhubarb pie for you both, by Scotty's photon-powered fax machine. But, also, some jello and read chicken broth to start off with. Let us know when you would like something a bit stronger.

Posted by: College Parkian | March 25, 2008 10:39 AM | Report abuse

TBG,
We are getting our money's worth out of the FiOS movie package (Showtime, Flix, Encore), or at least our son is. He had yesterday off and I came home to him on the couch watching "Ronnie and Julie" starring Teri Garr. He was still in his flannel pants and had the laptop on his stomach.

Rather than let him rot his brain, I made him watch "History of the World, Part 1" off the DVR with me. Now he knows why it's good to be the king.

Posted by: yellojkt | March 25, 2008 10:45 AM | Report abuse

Yes, K-guy wins the toaster. Or whatever it is that we would give away here at the A-blog were we to give things away. [Can we have a gifts manager, please?]

At Haverford they said the president comes out every Friday and sits on a rocking chair from noon to 6 p.m. on the porch there on the left side of the main building. Anyone can walk up and talk to him. He calls it "Rockin' Fridays."

We are looking next at U-Mass. Won't be making the boston run this trip I don't think. Truth is, we can't afford these private schools on a newspaper salary. Especially with three kids lining up for take-off.

Back to the road....

Posted by: Achenbach | March 25, 2008 10:49 AM | Report abuse

Cassandra, I dunno about vitamins, I take Centrum myself. I'm now in the silver league. :-) Do you take all your medications at one time? I spread mine out. The thyroid replacement is supposed to be taken on an empty stomach and then I'm not supposed to eat for an hour, so I take it when I get up and don't eat till I've read the paper and caught up on Achenblog. I take the soy and calcium at bedtime so as not to interfere with the thyroid, and the multivitamin during the day, if I don't forget about it.

Posted by: slyness | March 25, 2008 10:50 AM | Report abuse

Miss Toronto, I have a very good friend who given the choice of attending college in the US (his home) or in Montreal (McGill), his mother's home, chose Montreal - all things being equal the cost difference then was too much to turn down. He has dual citizenship and therefore was able to pay regular tuition fees which I believe he said was $600.

He has over they years expressed frustration though with the idea of where you attended university still holding a great deal of weight years down the road. Most of his work in done in the US through telecommuting.

Posted by: dmd | March 25, 2008 10:53 AM | Report abuse

Joel,
Don't discount the rebates these Ivies near-Ivies give off the sticker price. They can come out at or near in-state prices. Under 80k of family income, Harvard is a free ride. The other guys are having to sharpen their pencils to stay in the game.

Plus there is the prestige of accepting a relative of a former roommate of David Duchovney. That ought to be worth 20k a year alone.

Posted by: yellojkt | March 25, 2008 10:55 AM | Report abuse

TBG -- for you.
Others -- Theology alert! But, there is a star in it AND a call to the absurdity of love, which all boodlers can say Amen! to.


Annunciation
by Madeleine L'Engle
______________________
To the impossible: Yes!

Enter and penetrate

O Spirit. Come and bless

This hour: the star is late.

Only the absurdity of love

Can break the bonds of hate.

Posted by: College Parkian | March 25, 2008 10:59 AM | Report abuse

How discouraging. The other day I was looking at a site called famousbirthdays.com (don't ask) and I decided to look up my birthday to see what luminaries shared my natal day. I found David Beckham, Dwayne "The Rock" Johnson, Engelbert Humperdinck (the lounge lizard, not the classical composer), and Bianca Jagger.

Posted by: K:LOTD | March 25, 2008 11:01 AM | Report abuse

Tuition at most British colleges is capped at 6k a year, including all those places at which people where funny ties to class and go on to become prime minister. Foreigners (Yanks) get charged market rate which can be triple or more.

Posted by: yellojkt | March 25, 2008 11:06 AM | Report abuse

Thanks for the FiOS info, TBG. I forgot to ask--did they have to rewire anything inside the house?

Posted by: Raysmom | March 25, 2008 11:06 AM | Report abuse

Shriek, your 10:25 post about your Easter dinner is making my arteries groan. It's also making my stomach growl.

CP, re web based email: check for features like return receipt. If these are important to you, than decide what you can live without.

Alas, I've been assigned to the black helicopter crowd again, this time permanently (or until I can find a new job). Big sigh. I'll come up for air when I can.

Posted by: Don from I-270 | March 25, 2008 11:08 AM | Report abuse

Ivansmom,
Impressive buildings (or at least interesting historic ones) seem to matter quite a lot, even if students never enter them. Princeton seems to take the cake in this department. On Friday I was amazed at the ceremonial entrance to Florida International University. Princeton would consider it tacky.

The 1920s were seemingly the heyday of Impressive Buildings. Gothic towers, Georgian by the quarter-mile. Even Penn State managed to tear down Old Main and use the stones to build a mighty replacement intended as a monument to Agricultural Education and the Land Grant Act. Princeton probably considered it tacky.

Itinerary: How 'bout Colby or Bates?

Posted by: Dave of the Coonties | March 25, 2008 11:09 AM | Report abuse

SCC: They wear funny ties. I'm obviously not going to one anytime soon.

Posted by: yellojkt | March 25, 2008 11:10 AM | Report abuse

K:LOTD - You should just go to Wiki for a more complete list.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/May_2#Births

These might make you feel a little better:

Catherine the Great, Empress of Russia
Manfred von Richthofen, German World War I pilot the Red Baron
Benjamin Spock, American pediatrician and author
Lesley Gore, American singer
Christine Baranski, American actress
Lily Allen, English singer and songwriter
Sarah Hughes, American figure skater

Um, these maybe not:

Roberta Pedon, American glamour model
Donatella Versace, Italian fashion designer

Posted by: omni | March 25, 2008 11:24 AM | Report abuse

CP, I e-mailed you my phone numbers.

Cassandra, if you're having trouble with the multi-vitamin, try taking it with a meal (doesn't matter which one). I don't know what stores are near you, but BJ's Club has their own house brand (Berkeley & Jenson) generic which is a Centrum knock-off, and much cheaper. Other chains have their own generic knock-offs, too. Talk to the pharmacist about which is "virtually the same as" what.

At our ages (yours and mine) perhaps you ought to be taking Omega-3 Fish Oil, too, which isn't too expensive and is good for your heart: three or four capsules a day. A bottle of about 250 or so costs about $10. I also take something called "Co Q-10," which is an enzyme good for the heart.

Back to our previous discussions about maids and housekeepers, we have neither -- but we *do* have children. Unfortunately, they tend to do a pretty lackluster job of house-cleaning, procrastinate, whine, take short-cuts, steal the silverware, etc. They are also the "live-in" type, and I don't wanna tell you what their quarters look like, nor the dishes and empty bottles and cans I find in there. I've been thinking about firing the lot of them and starting over with a whole new set (my wife concurs), since beating them severely has not seemed to improve either their performance or their morale.

Posted by: Curmudgeon | March 25, 2008 11:27 AM | Report abuse

The beatings are not for their morale, Mudge, but for yours. Enjoy!

Posted by: kurosawaguy | March 25, 2008 11:34 AM | Report abuse

CP.. I have seen no downsides to web-based mail, but gmail has some funny quirks. I actually like my yahoo mail MUCH better.

Raysmom.. they didn't have to do any rewiring in the house. They unplugged the coaxial cable outside from the satellite (which had been switched over from cable years ago) and plugged in theirs. The same wires that brought cable and satellite into the house are now bringing FiOS.

The phones are no different, either. They do pull out the copper wiring outside, though. But that made no difference to me. Time marches on....

Posted by: TBG | March 25, 2008 11:48 AM | Report abuse

I missed Achenbach's 10:49. Looks like no Maine. One little place that might be under the radar is http://www.warren-wilson.edu/academics/
I spent a night there once, in a dorm supposedly built by the students.

I guess Financial Engineers need degrees from Princeton or similar places, but in my experience, lots of excellent scientists started out at no-reputation undergraduate programs and thrived in graduate school.

Posted by: Dave of the Coonties | March 25, 2008 12:08 PM | Report abuse

When I had FiOS installed they used all the same wires, but they kept changing the topology by adding splitters and rearranging the tees. I'm convinced that the signal to my basement television now goes out of the house and back in before it gets to the TV. Those little electronees must get dizzy running around the place.

Posted by: yellojkt | March 25, 2008 12:12 PM | Report abuse

yello, haven't you ever noticed in kung-fu movies that the actors lips aren't properly synched to their dialogue? That's because you have some of those little electronees running inside your house, then back outside for a bit, and then back inside again. By the time the catch up to the picture electronees, it's too late. Hence the apparent time lag. (It doesn't happen on domestic shows, because the electronees aren't coming all the way from Japan or China, only Hollywood.)

Perhaps Padouk can explain it even better; he's the specialist in elctroneesist magnito pulsification around here.

Posted by: Curmudgeon | March 25, 2008 12:26 PM | Report abuse

If ever you should pop in at RISD, be sure to visit the art museum and say "Hi!" to the chief custodian. Tell 'im Tim sent you.

Posted by: ScienceTim | March 25, 2008 12:42 PM | Report abuse

I watch all my (actually my son's) kung-fooey movies in the original language with the subtitles on. Saves the little voice electronees a long trip there and back. Makes it rough on the guy in the back of the DVD player typing all the letters.

Honestly, I have had audio syncing problems between my cable box (when using it as a DVR) and the surround sound system. The discrepency will get worse as the show goes on. Makes all the shows look like a badly dubbed kung-fooey movie.

Posted by: yellojkt | March 25, 2008 12:45 PM | Report abuse

Joel, Yello, and others, do you know about collegeconfidential.com?

Here's a bit from today's Chicago Tribune...

College Confidential in Chicago Tribune Started in Community & Forum Issues by Roger_Dooley on 03-22-2008
"Frank, graphic and deeply addictive, it feels like a cross between college admissions, porn and heroin. Check it out at your own risk." - Barbara Brotman of the Chicago Trib

They also trade recipes!

Posted by: Maggie O'D | March 25, 2008 1:17 PM | Report abuse

Well, some days are better than others: Bush got told to stuff it by his own Supreme Court, 6-3. http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/03/25/AR2008032501185.html?hpid=topnews

Posted by: Curmudgeon | March 25, 2008 1:20 PM | Report abuse

That's actually a really interesting decision, Curmudgeon.

I started to briefly summarize the circumstances then realized it isn't possible to be truly brief and would likely bore most of the Boodle to tears. Essentially, Texas decided it didn't have to follow an international court ruling involving a specific inmate on Texas's death row. The President issued an order saying that all states should honor that ruling - then withdrew from the protocol, ensuring that the situation wouldn't come up again. The inmate claimed Texas was bound by the international decision and the president's order. I never thought the executive claims here were very persuasive and am not surprised the Court wasn't persuaded either. What I find really interesting is the Court's extremely narrow interpretation of the treaty rights, which it crafted to hold that those rights aren't enforceable in a United States or state court. I think there may be some real consequences to our treaty participation in general resulting from this viewpoint.

Sorry. Carry on.

Posted by: Ivansmom | March 25, 2008 1:41 PM | Report abuse

No, no, Ivansmom, this is important stuff. Do you see the ruling as another event that will erode the US's reputation yet further?

Posted by: slyness | March 25, 2008 1:51 PM | Report abuse

"Bore the Boodle to tears"?

You *do* realize today's episode started with Joel's pictures of his kid's potential colleges, right? It's already Aunt Edna's slide show of her trip to the Northeast here. (No offense, JA!)

So, make with the complicated and long-winded legal explications. Where are we going to go, to The Gene Pool?

:-)

Posted by: byoolin | March 25, 2008 1:52 PM | Report abuse

Slyness, I would agree with you, I started to post a reply but thought it sounded to snarky. I am also extremely upset that in essense I am in agreement with GWB on this issue - that alone is making me ponder that I must be missing something.

Note to byoolin - you should post your blog for the others - it is very amusing.

Posted by: dmd | March 25, 2008 1:58 PM | Report abuse

Anybody else here having difficulty with gmail today? The page does not load for me.

I feel like a computer-tech-auto mechanic-networking monkey - software debugger - screaming meemie -- gal about to cry!

However, the sun is shining and tis March AND ivansmom is about to teach us something. Go to, Lawyer-Lady.

Posted by: College Parkian | March 25, 2008 1:58 PM | Report abuse

Ivansmom,
Does the US do treaties any more? NAFTA seems to be sort of a pseudo-treaty under US law.

Posted by: Dave of the Coonties | March 25, 2008 2:05 PM | Report abuse

CP... I have better luck with Gmail in Firefox (especially today). I always keep Firefox and Safari open because they each do certain things much better (the boodle is a Safari page).

Often when pages won't open properly in Safari, they will in Firefox, which is much better at emulating a Windoze PC. But Safari handles PDF links so much better (see my post at 9:46 am).

http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/

Posted by: TBG | March 25, 2008 2:07 PM | Report abuse

dmd---I agree with you. University is not about learning anymore... it's a business, a screening process for the corporate world... and it is true that it gives you a foundation for your career today. 'I went to Blank, therefore I am". And the higher fees you pay, the more it is considered you have "paid your dues" to society. And therefore you are accepted into the corporate world as a 'team player'. Sad really, when you think about it.

... lots of debt, makes subservient employees who don't ask questions about working long hours... okay, I've said enough, Big Brother may be listening.

Posted by: Miss Toronto | March 25, 2008 2:07 PM | Report abuse

Miss Toronto, congratulations, by the way: 189cm (6'2") of snow so far this season! Well done.

And, "Others," dmd asked for it on your behalf: byoolin.livejournal.com.

I was going to suggest that you could use one of the popular search engines to find it, but to "google byoolin" seems like an activity of which polite company might take a dim view.

Parental Advisory: Occasional Salty Language.

Posted by: byoolin | March 25, 2008 2:13 PM | Report abuse

Hear, hear, Ivansmom. Love to read your opinion if you've got time to write.

DotC, agree totally. Undergrad alma maters aren't nearly as important as the grad school.

TBG, found it in the first (and last) place I looked. Calgary BPH, here we come!

Last weekend a wonderful lady passed away. One of her daughters was a good friend of my best friend, and the lady herself was good friends with my best friend's mom (whose house I practically lived at as a teenager).

I baked cookies last night and took them to another daughter's house (today, looking at the family at the viewing I wondered what I was thinking taking 3 dozen cookies to a family with 7 kids and about 30 gkids and ggkids). Anyway, I'd like to tell you a small story about her.

A year after I was divorced, I was in Philadelphia for Christmas and one of her daughters invited me, our mutual friend and her mom over for lunch. We were having a merry time when Mrs. K said she'd heard I'd gotten a new dog and asked me to tell her about the dog.

So I did. Starting with the dog's name, Lucie. As I'm talking, I started sensing great amusement on the part of my friends, and suddenly became aware that Mrs. K's name was . . . Lucy.

So trying to backpedal, I said, "Oh, but her name is really Lucia." My friends totally lose it. The daughter laughs, "Oh, but I bet it's not Lucia Maria like my mom!" Head in my hands, I was rescued by Mrs. K who says, "I'll bet she's a good little dog, isn't she?" And then she smiled. The same smile I saw in a picture of her today at the church, where she's about 70 and on a big Harley hanging onto her husband (Harley belonged to grandson, it was parked).

Later that day we three laughed about how it reminded us of a party where Mrs. K said something that got the same reaction from my mom as my dog Lucie did at first.

I went home and rechristened Lucia as Lucia Maria, after a great and gracious lady.

Posted by: dbG | March 25, 2008 2:21 PM | Report abuse

Great story dbG, thank you for sharing.

Posted by: dmd | March 25, 2008 2:32 PM | Report abuse

Thanks, dmd.

She spent her life making her family's life more comfortable. She raised a bunch of nice kids who are now raising their own nice kids. I'm privileged to have known her.

Posted by: dbG | March 25, 2008 2:34 PM | Report abuse

I don't recall ever being on collegeconfidential before. Interesting site. The hot topic seems to be that Harvard is not taking transfer students for a couple of years. That has some people seriously peeved. We were told at MIT that transferring in is ten times harder than being accepted as a freshman. I expect most of the Ivies are the same way.

These college forums are another poor place to use real names or personally identifiable information. I recall a law school forum where some tiff resulted in a girl being outed and blackballed for prestigious internships.

Posted by: yellojkt | March 25, 2008 2:40 PM | Report abuse

More Ivansmom, please. And a bit louder, if you could.

Posted by: Boko999 | March 25, 2008 2:43 PM | Report abuse

I've heard some interesting things about transferring to UVa and other Virginia colleges.

It seems that while the colleges were making their deal to accept any Virginia community college student who takes the required classes and finishes his or her two years with at least a 3.5 GPA (or some similar criteria), they agreed to some quotas. Some kind of hard-number ratio between community-college transfers and four-year-college transfers.

What has happened? There haven't been enough of those community-college transfers, so the other transfers are basically screwed.

So if your kid went to JMU hoping to transfer to UVa after two years, he would have been better off going to NoVa, where his transfer would be basically guaranteed. The main thing determining his admittance (besides his grades, etc) is whether or not enough community college kids want to transfer that year.

Now, maybe I'm wrong.. and if there are any admissions folks out there who can set me straight, I hope you do.

Posted by: TBG | March 25, 2008 3:01 PM | Report abuse

The most telling part of that cc site is how the forums are organized. The Ivies get their own section. "Top" colleges get another separate category and that includes:
Haverford
Bryn Mawr
Harvey Mudd
UC Berkeley
UVA
Chapel Hill
MIT

Judging that all the pictures are from colleges that make the top 50 of that list, someone is aiming fairly high.

Posted by: yellojkt | March 25, 2008 3:11 PM | Report abuse

Yello, I suppose that's not surprising. After all, her old man went to Princeton.

Posted by: slyness | March 25, 2008 3:16 PM | Report abuse

The second from the bottom looks A LOT like Vassar College's main gate as viewed from inside the campus grounds.

Posted by: egadman | March 25, 2008 3:26 PM | Report abuse

TBG, I also heard that there are some scholarships available in community college students aiming for the transfer after two years. But I am not sure of the statistics and the reality of "saving two years tuition strategy."

Posted by: daiwanlan | March 25, 2008 3:27 PM | Report abuse

byolin, I exchanged snow war stories with my sister who lives in Baie-St-Paul last weekend. Quebec city and the area broke the 1965-66 record of 458cm of snowfall by one or two cm with the 40-50cm they got around March 11.
Pictures in QC after that storm:

http://www.quebecurbain.qc.ca/2008/03/12/banc-de-neige-record-chez-les-gaulois/

Then they received another 40cm last Friday, right before Easter, to make it to 5.01m (16'7.3"). They don't know where to put it anymore.


Posted by: shrieking denizen | March 25, 2008 3:33 PM | Report abuse

Ruh-roh Rorge:

http://www.cnn.com/2008/TECH/science/03/25/antartica.collapse.ap/index.html

Posted by: bill everything | March 25, 2008 3:55 PM | Report abuse

sd: Sacre tu-sais-quoi! Quelle bonne hiver! (Pardon my French.)

Posted by: byoolin | March 25, 2008 4:08 PM | Report abuse

You are right, Ivansmom, that it is an interesting case, and I am not really sure how I feel about it without re-reading it and thinking about it. But what the hell, I figured any day Bush gets stuffed by his own court hasta be a good one, right?

Byoolin, your reply (at 1:52) made me snort. Thanks.

All this talk of high-falutin' colleges has made me pine for the good ol' days of Parsons College, of Faber College, and even (dare I say it?) the South Harmon Institute of Technology. Of lowly institutions of my (mis-spent) youth, such as Slippery Rock and Millersville (which actually accepted me, the mad fools!), Kutztown (or Kutztahn, in the vernacular), of Ball State (I mean, really, now...), of Shippensberg, of dear old West Chester State College (where I went for a year! almost the very same year young Dave Barry was a lowly reporter at the local West Chester rag a mere two or three blocks from my off-campus dorm house (think Animal House, without all that anal-retentive cleanliness and seriousness of purpose). Why, even Eddie and the Cruisers (I *or* II) wouldn't even play at some of the places I went.

Posted by: Curmudgeon | March 25, 2008 4:13 PM | Report abuse

Meanwhile, I really do wish we'd stop accidentally shipping the trigger mechanisms to our nuclear weapons to foreign countries. One of these days somebody's gonna get into a lot of trouble messin' with one of 'em.

Posted by: Curmudgeon | March 25, 2008 4:18 PM | Report abuse

(No offense meant to any of you who may be from a foreign country.)

Posted by: Curmudgeon | March 25, 2008 4:19 PM | Report abuse

I'm back from a meeting only to discover the Boodle has gluttons for punishment. Okay, you asked for it. Here's the short version.

A while back the US signed the Vienna Convention and its Optional Protocol covering enforcement. One thing the Vienna Convention did was protect foreign nationals who get arrested for or accused of a crime in another signatory country. That country is required to let the defendant kinow he has the right to contact his own signatory-country consulate and receive legal help from them in his criminal case. This was often not followed by US and state law enforcement. For a long time nobody noticed.

In 2004, the International Court of Justice held, in a case called Avena, that the US had violated the Vienna Convention in the cases of 51 named Mexican nationals. Essentially the ICJ said that the US had to afford those defendants review and reconsideration of their state-court convictions and sentences, regardless of any state procedural laws. [Most states have laws which would bar these claims from being considered after conviction and direct appeal; trust me, you don't want to know details.]

Texas had one of these guys, Medellin. They refused to apply Avena to him. He appealed that decision. While his case was pending (waiting to be decided) President Bush issued an official memorandum essentially stating that the US would honor its obligations under Avena by having state courts pay attention to the decision. [At the same time he prospectively withdrew the US from the Optional Protocol, meaning that essentially we no longer agree to any type of enforcement and effectively removing us from Vienna Convention territory.] Texas wouldn't play, and claimed that the President has no authority to order it to undergo legal review of a state case where state law prohibited the review.

I never thought the executive authority argument was very good here; normally this is exactly the sort of thing the president cannot do. I'm not surprised the Court didn't buy it either. However, the majority of the Court held that, although the Vienna Convention is a treaty and thus the law of the land [See US constitution, all treaties are the supreme law of the land], it is not enforceable in US or state courts. To do so they very narrowly interpret the way in which a treaty becomes binding on the US. Essentially they say that, absent specific types of language not often found in treaties, unless Congress enacted additional legislation specifically providing for treaty enforcement, it cannot be enforced in our courts. In doing so they reinterpret or distinguish some very old constitutional law suggesting otherwise.

By implication, this case also calls into question our obligations under other treaties which may not contain that language and which Congress may not subsequently reinforce with legislation. It could have some interesting consequences on the international scene. Other Boodlers familiar with international law, or diplomacy, might have some thoughts on this too.

Posted by: Ivansmom | March 25, 2008 4:23 PM | Report abuse

Aren't you glad I gave you the short version?

Now I'm fleeing to another meeting, to promote an event about which I know very little, but will describe fluently and with enthusiasm. Ain't this stuff grand?

Posted by: Ivansmom | March 25, 2008 4:26 PM | Report abuse

Ivansmom, if I'm following, the court in effect ratified the second part of Bush's action, the one that withdrew the U.S. from the Optional Protocol. Albeit with some pretty fancy footwork.

I assume this would tend to put U.S. citizens arrested in another country on shakier ground?

Posted by: Raysmom | March 25, 2008 4:34 PM | Report abuse

Interesting. But just how does the treaty figure into it, anyhow? What I see was the executive branch attempting to order the state courts to reopen a decision already made to please a foreign government.

IF that individual's rights of extratradition and whatever was violated during the whole process, it seems the proper way would be to appeal to a federal court to sue to get the case reopened?

Or, to order that the prisoner be extradited to Mexico as a non-American citizen.

But there is NO earthly reason why any treaty should give the executive branch the right to order the judical branch of the states around.

Immigration and naturalization concerns are already under the scope of federal law, and I'm sure jurisdiction could be found through federal judical channels.

We should applaud this decision but wish that the Supreme Court had found a way to explain 'How Things Should Be Done Instead'. Instead, this precedent may have confusing implications, meseems.

However, the power of the federal government and that alone to negotitate treaties with foreign powers is clear.

Bush's only been pro-state rights as far as it suited him, I must say.

http://www.america.gov/st/washfile-english/2006/November/20061130185038abretnuh0.9418451.html

So well-deserved. What would be next, Bush pressuring the Supreme court to decide U.S. law differently just because he signed a treaty with a country who doesn't like our laws?

Posted by: Wilbrod | March 25, 2008 4:39 PM | Report abuse

D@mned ferriners, assertin' their rahts. Who do they think they are?

Posted by: Curmudgeon | March 25, 2008 4:47 PM | Report abuse

Wilbrod, the treaty would apply to US citizens jailed abroad as well (not sure how many countries would follow the treaty obligations).

Posted by: dmd | March 25, 2008 4:49 PM | Report abuse

Ah, well explained Ivansmom. I think it is important that we do put procedures in place for how such treaties should be followed-- this adds an additional obligation in the justice system and it is fair that following this treaty shouldn't be up to interpretion.

What this implies is that Congress must ratify treaties (already in the constitution), and add specific language if needed. That means the House gets into the act as well, in proposing the bills to enforce an already-ratified treaty.

That'll be a sticky process and the treaty better have high support, OR the treaty is written properly in the first place to avoid extra laws being enacted by Congress.

Does anybody think the Republicans are trying to bolster their defenses in the case a Democratic president takes office and wants to change NAFTA or other treaties?


Posted by: Wilbrod | March 25, 2008 4:49 PM | Report abuse

Sorry, but what is kimerikas?

Jane.

Posted by: sweeta-uo | March 25, 2008 4:57 PM | Report abuse

Sorry, but what is kimerikas?

Jane.

Posted by: sweeta-uo | March 25, 2008 4:57 PM | Report abuse

Sorry, but what is kimerikas?

Jane.

Posted by: sweeta-uo | March 25, 2008 4:57 PM | Report abuse

Dmd, the interesting point is that U.S. citizens jailed in Mexico don't have that many rights. Human rights abuses are rife in Mexico.
http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB89/#article

Note the State Government advisory for Mexico.

http://travel.state.gov/travel/cis_pa_tw/cis/cis_970.html#criminal_penalties

It doesn't say "contact your local embassy if jailed."

However it does say: " Low apprehension and conviction rates of criminals contribute to the high crime rate. U.S. citizen victims of crime in Mexico are encouraged to report the incident to the nearest police headquarters and to the nearest U.S. consular office. "

Also:

"In some instances, Americans have become victims of harassment, mistreatment and extortion by Mexican law enforcement and other officials. Mexican authorities have cooperated in investigating such cases, but one must have the officer's name, badge number, and patrol car number to pursue a complaint effectively. Please note this information if you ever have a problem with police or other officials."

And relevant to this treaty:

"The Mexican government is required by international law to notify the U.S. Embassy or the nearest U.S. consulate promptly when a U.S. citizen is arrested, if the arrestee so requests. In practice, however, this notification can be delayed by months or may never occur at all, limiting the assistance the U.S. Government can provide. U.S. citizens should promptly identify themselves as such to the arresting officers, and should request that the Embassy or nearest consulate be notified immediately."

It sounds like the treaty violations have been occuring on both sides, dmd.

Posted by: Wilbrod | March 25, 2008 4:59 PM | Report abuse

So it looks like if we renegotiated this treaty to include redresses or penalties for failure to follow the treaty in individual cases... it'd actually be worth the paper it's written on, especially for US-Mexico relations.

Posted by: Wilbrod | March 25, 2008 5:06 PM | Report abuse

Also from the State department's site:

A U.S. citizen incarcernated must pay for his own food out of funds and can wind up paying lots of cash for protection just to stay alive in prison.

Additionally, Mexican police routinely use torture as part of their interrogations. All of which would fall under "cruel and unusual punishment" under U.S. law.

I do think this treaty needs to be renegotiated with Mexico.

Posted by: Wilbrod | March 25, 2008 5:11 PM | Report abuse

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W3qpfgfXuaQ&feature=related

Everybody! ASing along! And for you with guitars on your desks, here's the chords:

Children go where I send thee, how shall I send thee
Well I'm gonna send thee one by one
G
One for the little-bitty baby
D7 G Em
That's born, born, born in Bethlehem
D7 G Em
That's born, born, born in Bethlehem

G D7 G
Children go where I send thee, how shall I send thee
G
Well I'm gonna send thee two by two
Two for the Paul and Silas
G
One for the little-bitty baby
D G
That's born, born, born in Bethlehem
D G
That's born, born, born in Bethlehem

G D7 G
Children go where I send thee, how shall I send thee
G
Well I'm gonna send thee three by three
G
Three for the Hebrew Children
Two for the Paul and Silas
G
One for the little-bitty baby
D G
That's born, born, born in Bethlehem
D G
That's born, born, born in Bethlehem

G D7 G
Children go where I send thee, how shall I send thee
G
Well I'm gonna send thee four by four
Four for the four that stood at the door
G
Three for the Hebrew Children
Two for the Paul and Silas
G
One for the little-bitty baby
D7 G
That's born, born, born in Bethlehem

G D7 G
Children go where I send thee, how shall I send thee
Well I'm gonna send thee five by five
Five for the five that stayed alive
G
Four for the four that stood at the door
Three for the Hebrew Children
Two for the Paul and Silas
G
One for the little-bitty baby
D7 G Em
That's born, born, born in Bethlehem
D7 G Em
That's born, born, born in Bethlehem

G D7 G
Children go where I send thee, how shall I send thee
Em
Well I'm gonna send thee six by six,
G
Six for the six that never got fixed
Five for the five that stayed alive
G
Four for the four that stood at the door

Three for the Hebrew Children
Two for the Paul and Silas
G
One for the little-bitty baby
D7 G Em
That's born, born, born in Bethlehem

G D7 G
Children go where I send thee, how shall I send thee
Em
Well I'm gonna send thee seven by seven
G
Seven for the seven that came from heaven
Six for the six that never got fixed
G
Five for the five that stayed alive
Four for the four that stood at the door
G
Three for the Hebrew Children
Two for the Paul and Silas
G
One for the little-bitty baby
D7 G
That's born, born, born in Bethlehem

G D7 G
Children go where I send thee, how shall I send thee
Well I'm gonna send thee eight by eight
Eight for the eight that stood at the gate
G
Seven for the seven that came from heaven
Six for the six that never got fixed
G
Five for the five that stayed alive
Four for the four that stood at the door
G
Three for the Hebrew Children
Two for the Paul and Silas
G
One for the little-bitty baby
D7 G
That's born, born, born in Bethlehem
D7 G
That's born, born, born in Bethlehem

G D7 G
Children go where I send thee, how shall I send thee
G
Well I'm gonna send thee nine by nine
G
Nine for the nine that dressed so fine

Eight for the eight that stood at the gate
G
Seven for the seven that came from heaven

Six for the six that never got fixed
G
Five for the five that stayed alive

Four for the four that stood at the door
G
Three for the Hebrew Children

Two for the Paul and Silas
G
One for the little-bitty baby
D7 G
That's born, born, born in Bethlehem
D7 G
That's born, born, born in Bethlehem

G D7 G
Children go where I send thee, how shall I send thee
G
Well I'm gonna send thee ten by ten
G
Ten for the ten with madness
G
Nine for the nine that dressed so fine
Eight for the eight that stood at the gate
G
Seven for the seven that came from heaven
Six for the six that never got fixed
G
Five for the five that stayed alive
Four for the four that stood at the door
G
Three for the Hebrew Children
Two for the Paul and Silas
G
One for the little-bitty baby
D7 G
That's born, born, born in Bethlehem
D7 G
That's born, born, born in Bethlehem

Posted by: Curmudgeon | March 25, 2008 5:12 PM | Report abuse

That was, of course, "Jane, Jane," in honor of Jane, Jane, Jane at 4:47, 4:47, and again at 4:47.

Begorry, it's a bus-runnin' time.

Ciou, my babies.

Posted by: Curmudgeon | March 25, 2008 5:17 PM | Report abuse

Until the decision is published, I can only disagree with the Court. They seem to be saying either that although Congress ratifies a treaty, they must somehow sort of "double ratify" it, I guess by adding to the ratification a "we really mean it" clause, and include funding for a flipping telephone call or something; OR that no treaties apply to the States at all.

Posted by: Jumper | March 25, 2008 5:21 PM | Report abuse

http://www.supremecourtus.gov/opinions/07pdf/06-984.pdf

I forgot they started posting these things sooner than before...

Posted by: Jumper | March 25, 2008 5:24 PM | Report abuse

I always catch a nail on that G thingy.
I'm listening to 'Magic Bus.'

Posted by: Boko999 | March 25, 2008 5:31 PM | Report abuse

I was talking to a Berkeley botanist in January. Her take on the undergraduate student body was that overall, they seemed just as good as the students at Stanford, except for a bit of a tail end at the bottom. On the other hand, the Berkeley students were an economic microcosm of California. Students' families' incomes closely matched those of all California families of similar age makeup. I was impressed.

As for UNC-Chapel Hill being a "top" college, it's been pretty good at soliciting private funding since the 1920s, but has always been stronger on faculty and libraries than on facilities. Competition for out-of-state slots has become so intense that it probably makes better sense for most would-be applicants to apply to NCSU, UNC-Asheville or something farther abroad. How about the University of Wyoming (don't laugh--the state's investing heavily). Could I commend St. Olaf College?

Posted by: Dave of the Coonties | March 25, 2008 5:35 PM | Report abuse

Hmm, I wonder if a State can nullify NAFTA...

That Supreme Court stuff is fascinating. I should have tried for a law degree; it sure beats studying stuff that bores me. As usual, the case is not about what it is about, murder and the death penalty. It's about decisions made in 1888 and such regarding treaties.

Posted by: Jumper | March 25, 2008 5:37 PM | Report abuse

TBG -- having trouble with Safari. Can't download anything, including

Firefox
Safari 3.0
Adobe Shockwave.

How can I be having so many problems? Am I a vortex?

I can get email but not send them. I cannot open gmail. Help.

AKKKCCCC!!!!!!

Posted by: College parkian | March 25, 2008 5:39 PM | Report abuse

I actually settled on a college without ever visiting it. (This is mostly because the school was hundreds of miles away.)

Since nobody else had ever heard of this school, I maintained the paranoid fear that it was a really complex practical joke. Turns out it was real, and not visiting did me no harm.

Since all of the schools my son is considering are local, my wife and he are making a few overnight trips to check them out. These visits haven't been as useful as they had hoped. It is hard the to really get the sense of a school from a quick visit. True, one can rule out the existence of dangerous open trenches and the like. And I guess a look at the student body can help provide insights. But come on. These are colleges. They have collegiate things like libraries and stuff.

The best way to learn about a potential institution of higher learning is to talk to trusted alumni.

Of course, my son really doesn't seem that worried about where he goes. His main criteria seems to be the availability of high-quality chicken strips in the cafeteria and high-speed internet in the dorms.

This worries us.

Posted by: RD Padouk | March 25, 2008 5:48 PM | Report abuse

I have this fantasy that Waxman is the new Truman.

Posted by: Boko999 | March 25, 2008 5:54 PM | Report abuse

I visited Haverford. They wait-listed me.
I visited Franklin&Marshall. They wait-listed me.
I didn't visit JHU, though I interviewed with an alum. They accepted me and offered me scholarship money.
I didn't visit Washington University in St. Louis. They accepted me and offered me scholarship money.
I didn't visit U of MD, CP. They accepted me, venerated me, and offered me scholarship money.

Practical lesson: schools that met me, didn't like me very much.

(Actually, in all honesty, I can't remember whether F&M wait-listed me or accepted me. I don't recall them throwing money at me, which was a necessary condition for going to any college. It's not like we had much that we could throw at them.)

Posted by: ScienceTim | March 25, 2008 5:59 PM | Report abuse

My son has a familiarity with the movie that features the South Harmon Institute of Technology that worries me.

Posted by: yellojkt | March 25, 2008 6:00 PM | Report abuse

He also sees the presence of a vibrant Greek culture as an advantage of the Alma Mater. Should I be worried?

Posted by: yellojkt | March 25, 2008 6:10 PM | Report abuse

Jane is spam that also showed up on Celebritology.

Posted by: yellojkt | March 25, 2008 6:11 PM | Report abuse

CP... First of all.. Are you sure they're not downloading straight to the Downloads folder? If the dowload folder's not showing up in your finder's leftside list, click on your "home" icon and look for the Downloads folder there.

If that's not the problem...

Shut down and start up again (not "restart'). Then... go to Software Update... under the apple and download everything it says to.

After you do that and restart, you'll have the most up-to-date Safari, at least.

Then start trying to download the stuff you need again. Let me know how that goes.

Posted by: TBG | March 25, 2008 6:11 PM | Report abuse

I visited the university I went to because I had to audition in person. I didn't visit everywhere I applied - not even the one in-state.

Jumper, that's a pretty good summary - the Court seems to suggest that the language regarding treaties already in the Constitution isn't good enough. Wilbrod, it doesn't really imply that Congress has to ratify treaties. It is a little more technical and less expansive than that.

Posted by: Ivansmom | March 25, 2008 6:25 PM | Report abuse

If your common ancestor is ten generation removed and died in 1662 in a foreign country are you really kinship?

"Obama related to Pitt, Clinton to Jolie"

http://cnews.canoe.ca/CNEWS/World/2008/03/25/5099646-ap.html


Posted by: shrieking denizen | March 25, 2008 6:29 PM | Report abuse

SCC There is an s missing somewhere

Posted by: shrieking denizen | March 25, 2008 6:32 PM | Report abuse

Dave, there is so much construction at Chapel Hill that's it's impossible to get across campus. Younger dottir called this afternoon as she was walking to a certain building. "I can see it," she told me, "now how do I get there?" She managed to thread her way, but it took a while.

Posted by: slyness | March 25, 2008 6:35 PM | Report abuse

TBG -- how do you shut down? Turn off? No famous CT-AL-DE?

I figured something out by reloading Safari....meaning i quit it, but now it is not in my dock.

Posted by: College Parkian | March 25, 2008 6:54 PM | Report abuse

CP.. under the apple... choose Shut Down.

Safari will be in your Applications folder. Just drag the icon back into the dock. Do that with anything you want to put in the dock.

I'm going to send you an email with my phone number in case you need it.


Posted by: TBG | March 25, 2008 7:10 PM | Report abuse

The multiple 4:57 posts look a little suspect too... *shrug*

And frankly, I don't think the Supremes' decision caused all that much anguish at 1600 Penn. *double shrug*

Posted by: Scottynuke | March 25, 2008 7:47 PM | Report abuse

Odd you should mention that, Scotty. If you google kimerika you get some weird thing that looks like a code attack on http blogs or something. Or a network of spies posting automated messages. Bizarre.

Posted by: Jumper | March 25, 2008 7:51 PM | Report abuse

Well worth reading all the way to this conclusion:

"In that moment, Obama stood at a podium and he unpacked our race baggage. And then he did something else. He turned to us and said, OK, these are some ugly, heavy bags. What else could they be? Could they be pillows? Hot-air balloons? Life jackets? Who in the world tricked us into believing we have to carry these bags forever? And when did we agree to go along?"

Read all of "Identity check
What the Obama speech taught me, the mother of two biracial children, about myself, my kids - and America."
here:
http://www.boston.com/bostonglobe/ideas/articles/2008/03/23/identity_check/?page=1

Posted by: frostbitten | March 25, 2008 9:21 PM | Report abuse

Any nucular blast in the DC area?
(boodle clinically dead for 1 hour 31 minutes)

Posted by: shrieking denizen | March 25, 2008 9:23 PM | Report abuse

SCC I'll give a minute back to Frosty.

Posted by: shrieking denizen | March 25, 2008 9:28 PM | Report abuse

I guess it was asleep, SD. No attacks being reported by the MSM.

Posted by: slyness | March 25, 2008 9:33 PM | Report abuse

Bob Rae

Posted by: Boko999 | March 25, 2008 9:39 PM | Report abuse

Wow, Frosti - that really was worth a read. I loved the part about the son thinking out of the box about things he's never seen. Thanks for that.

Shrieking D - I feel for you guys up north. You all sound beyond ready for spring. The hubby and I just got back from our run outside, it only hit 49 here today, which might seem balmy to you at this point, but we were cranking about how cold are ears were...

gwe - glad to hear that your mom is doing well.

Posted by: Kim | March 25, 2008 9:39 PM | Report abuse

OMG! I have GOT to start previewing...
SCC "our ears"

Posted by: Kim | March 25, 2008 9:42 PM | Report abuse

That was a good piece, frostbitten, thanks. I'm glad Obama's taking some time off - I hope that as more people think about what he said, how he reacted to the controversy, that it will help him. I've gotten pretty sick of the campaign, I must say.

Posted by: mostlylurking | March 25, 2008 10:01 PM | Report abuse

Kim, I'm working on Winter pitchers . This time I mean it. Labels take the longest time with this balky keyboard.

What's wrong with Bob "the red" Rae? Got drunk, nekkid and jumped in a lake in front of TV cameras again?

Posted by: shrieking denizen | March 25, 2008 10:07 PM | Report abuse

I cannot bear to watch Frontline, Iraq War Part II, with my full attention. The frustration and anger I felt at the point of each horrible misstep after another is coming back. Now they are going over Abu Ghraib. I once asked a senior army general (in a forum agreed to be "not for attribution" or I'd share his name) "Abu Ghraib was already a notorious prison under Saddam, who decided using it was a good idea for us. Isn't that a bit like saying, hey, this Auschwitz place is already set up we might as well us it?" After an admission that it was, in retrospect, not the best idea he said they really didn't have much choice because the alternative was having everyone out in tents exposed to the weather.

I read a comment on some blog recently that I wish I could find now. The writer said "Ashamed of being American? Heck, sometimes I don't want to admit I'm from Earth."

Posted by: frostbitten | March 25, 2008 10:11 PM | Report abuse

Heddoe.

Dis is bc's doze here, Boodwing while heez sweeping.

He's got a bid of a code at duh moment, and heez twying to sweep it off.

Iv bc were awake, he'd pwababwy be amused at the Supwemes decision today, and watching the west of that Fwontwine speshle on the Iraq war.

And maybe finking a bit abowt where his oldest will be going to cowege 18 momfs from now...

bc's noze

Posted by: bc | March 25, 2008 10:16 PM | Report abuse

On the Supreme Court decision--the administration opened it up specifically for the Texas case, so that a precedent would be set.

Every major newspaper I looked at titled their article as a "Bush Loses Court Case"--which it wasn't; the parrots that make up the MSM once again took a press release from the White House and quoted it verbatim with no fact-checking at all.

Treaty obligations took a hit, which is what the administration wanted in the first place. But Bush gets MSM credit for "trying".

For those in adverse weather: it's coming!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LSSIlx9hiu8&feature=related

How discouraging. The other day I was looking at a site called famousbirthdays.com (don't ask) and I decided to look up my birthday to see what luminaries shared my natal day. I found David Beckham, Dwayne "The Rock" Johnson, Engelbert Humperdinck (the lounge lizard, not the classical composer), and Bianca Jagger.

Posted by: K:LOTD | March 25, 2008 11:01 AM

Posted by: SCMole | March 25, 2008 10:31 PM | Report abuse

On the Supreme Court decision--the administration opened it up specifically for the Texas case, so that a precedent would be set. Roberts has watched this one for years.

Every major newspaper I looked at titled their article as a "Bush Loses Court Case"--which it wasn't; the parrots that make up the MSM once again took a press release from the White House and quoted it verbatim with no fact-checking at all.

Treaty obligations took a hit, which is what the administration wanted in the first place. But Bush gets MSM credit for "trying".

Special for those in adverse weather: it's coming!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LSSIlx9hiu8&feature=related

How discouraging. The other day I was looking at a site called famousbirthdays.com (don't ask) and I decided to look up my birthday to see what luminaries shared my natal day. I found David Beckham, Dwayne "The Rock" Johnson, Engelbert Humperdinck (the lounge lizard, not the classical composer), and Bianca Jagger.

Posted by: K:LOTD | March 25, 2008 11:01 AM

Posted by: SCMole | March 25, 2008 10:34 PM | Report abuse

Forgive the irreverence, and long quote:

"The Annunciation

God sent the angel Gabriel to Mary in Nazareth, and Gabriel said, "Hail, Mary! You have been chosen by God to bear His only begotten son." And Mary, being pure of heart and way too young to know what she was getting into, said, "It shall be as you say, for I am the Lord's servant."

Then the angel went on, "And this son will bring you nothing but misery. He'll have a big mouth and an attitude to match. He'll be in constant trouble with the law and spend all his spare time drinking with his friends. And he'll never produce any grandchildren for you, or even bring home a decent girlfriend. But he'll tell anyone who listens how great his father is."

And Mary thought, "Well, maybe the next one will be a girl."

The rest of "Midlife Bible Stories" can be found at McSweeney's
http://mcsweeneys.net/2008/3/14schorn.html

Posted by: frostbitten | March 25, 2008 10:36 PM | Report abuse

Pitchers of puppies, old dogs, birds, rivers, snow and, gasp, quilts.

http://picasaweb.google.fr/ShriekingDenizen/TheLongWinterOf200708

Posted by: shrieking denizen | March 25, 2008 11:02 PM | Report abuse

Frosti -- Funny, helps me out with grading papers on online, digitally, and uploading them into tricky little folders. Your joke reminds me of these, about Jesus's ethnicty.

Jesus is Jewish (of course) but here is more evidence:
He went into his father's business
He lived at home until he was 33
His mother is sure he is God

Jesus is Italian, and this is why:
He talks with his hands
He has wine with every meal
He uses olive oil

Jesus is Irish - here is the trifecta:

He never got married
He is always telling stories
He knows that good drink improves a wedding considerably

But really, Jesus IS A WOMAN. How do we know? This definitive answer:

despite being dead, she arises and keeps at her work.

Posted by: College Parkian | March 25, 2008 11:08 PM | Report abuse

SD -- puppy's face, so smashed flat is adorable. Oh my! I'll dog sit any time. Is the quilter in the house? Bravo!

Posted by: College Parkian | March 25, 2008 11:12 PM | Report abuse

Great pics, sd. I love the quilts - and the birds - the puppies and the kid and the liquid cat - and the deer. And the Boodler at work. I'm so glad I don't live near you - so much snow! They're talking about snow mixed with rain here, in the foothills, but you have piles of serious snow.

bc, hope you feel better soon!

Posted by: mostlylurking | March 25, 2008 11:19 PM | Report abuse

Danks, mowstwyworking.

- bc's noze

Posted by: bc | March 25, 2008 11:26 PM | Report abuse

Shrieking D - loved the pics, especially "Wise puppy", so cute and the pine covered with ice, beautiful. Who is the quilter? Very lovely!
That is a lot of snow.

bc - yep, the same crud is sweeping through my house and neighborhood. My poor kids have it and this is their spring break. They look and sound pathetic. I'm hoping the hubby and I can dodge the bullet. Hope you feel better soon.

Posted by: Kim | March 25, 2008 11:27 PM | Report abuse

good one CP

G'night boodle. Long day ahead tomorrow ending with a drive to St. Paul for a meeting that starts early Thursday morning. Just in time for a winter storm watch. Can't complain though. We've had cold but nothing like SD's snow.

Posted by: frostbitten | March 25, 2008 11:28 PM | Report abuse

I used to cross into Quebec via the train bridge.
Your papers please

Posted by: Anonymous | March 25, 2008 11:47 PM | Report abuse

Done with digital papers; whew, I need an acupuncturist or rolfing or good swim followed by the steam room. I'll make due with a hot bath.

About crud, at this time of the year, the blossoms -- Bradford pears and some early cherries -- wreck havoc in the house. Where does crud end and allergies begin?

Sorry for the crudded among us. Spring is coming North, dear Nothern Climed boodlers. We promise to NOT hold it up at the Maxon-Dixon line that separates the south (y'll) from the north (youse).

Still thinking on GWE's mother; hoping for good news. Passing off to the night shift. I left some pork tenderloin in the 'fridge. Make up a sandwich or two with that good and dark rye bread. You know what they say about rye bread? The further east you go, the darker the bread, and the stronger the women too. Go Ruskies, etc.

Posted by: College Parkian | March 25, 2008 11:47 PM | Report abuse

I'm gonna have rhubarb and chives. Whether I like it or not.

Posted by: Boko999 | March 26, 2008 12:04 AM | Report abuse

Shrieking, that is a delightful puppy, playing in some snow that reminds me of why we left the east.

But we never had quite that much in Virginia!

Posted by: nellie | March 26, 2008 12:09 AM | Report abuse

Thanks all again.

Mom is doing well,she came home today and only spent about 30 hours in the hospital.
My brother and his wife went home and Mom and my sister and I tried my lasagna that I made with my garden fresh eggplant and then froze last fall.It turned out great.We relaxed this evening and after i got the dishes done, sat and talked for a couple of hours. She just went to bed.I was amazed how well she is doing physically and emotionally.She is a great role model,she turns 85 on Saturday.

We will celebrate in west by god in a couple of weeks. Thanks to everyone for their support,thoughts and prayers.

Posted by: greenwithenvy | March 26, 2008 12:12 AM | Report abuse

'Morning, boodle! We've been busy since school let out for break. Yard work on Saturday at my Mil's left my hands and wrists sore from repetitive motions with an electric hedge trimmer. I have no idea how to trim ornamentals, so everything received a roughly spherical trim. I think worked over boxwoods and redtips and something weedy that had striped stems. My FIL insisted that the crape myrtles be trimmed to nothing, so they were. I prefer to see them grow rather naturally, but I know nothing of ornamentals except how to kill them in my own yard. We had the obligatory Easter Egg hunt on Sunday. The kids thought turnabout was fair play. As a result, my wife and I went a collective 3 for 11 on our hunt. After two years, I finally made the upstairs bathroom functional. The big hold up turned out to be a 2 1/2 ft. crack in the cast iron waste pipe that drains all of the fixtures up there. Rather than pay a plumber some outlandish amount to come in and wreck the downstairs foyer to replace the stack with PVC , I made the executive decision to patch the crack with a two part epoxy worthy of securing tiles to the space shuttle. I installed a salvaged 1920ish pedestal lavatory and rigged the feed lines and drain, gutted and refitted the commode and turned the water on to check for leaks. Nearly every connection on the lavatory failed, sending a shower of water through the beadboard ceiling in the downstairs foyer. Trial and error sealed the leaks, causing elation among our family and simultaneous wonderment as to the whereabouts of the bathroom door. Details. I did remember the TP.

Posted by: jack | March 26, 2008 12:26 AM | Report abuse

Neighborhood safety makes a big difference in women's fitness.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/hsn/20080325/hl_hsn/neighborhoodinfluencesexerciselevels

Hmm, Clinton's new tack: She'd have left Wright's church. Given she never attended, this is easy to say.

http://www.bnd.com/277/story/290529.html

Yes, the same woman who did not leave Bill despite his many public infidelities, and who is not abandoning a campaign in trouble...

She can talk so easily about leaving a large, close-knit church community and a well-liked pastor who has been leading struggle against social issues (poverty, homelessless, AIDS) over some inflammatory remarks, just to prove a moral point.

I guess love has very specific meanings for her.

As for me, the choice is clear. I'd have left Bill in a heartbeat. We don't have a choice when it comes to our relatives, but we have a choice in our spouses. Everyone will have to decide these matters for themselves, as cheating spouses are obviously very personal matters. I don't think that's negative.

Okay. Now let's get back to her great daredevil mission to Bosnia where she and Sinbad dodged sniper fire and rappeled to their restaurant in ninja clothing.

Posted by: Wilbrod | March 26, 2008 12:28 AM | Report abuse

Scrolling at light speed past squirrels, owls, quakers, and ivy;
did I really see Jesus and kung-fooey?!

Also red buttons for the reddish Taiwanese,
and a very Happy birthday to Greece!!

There were Jane, other ferriners, the Supwemes,
but why was Waxman in Boko's dreams?!

Then the SOS from CP on a safari;
at least there was good news for gwe!!

Ended with an image of crudallergy;
better that than Lara Crofted Hillary!!

http://www.sinfest.net/archive_page.php?comicID=2121

Posted by: DNA Girl | March 26, 2008 12:28 AM | Report abuse

GWE, I'm belatedly sending thoughts and prayers your way. I didn't know your Mom was ill, but am glad that the procedure went well. Take care.

Posted by: jack | March 26, 2008 12:31 AM | Report abuse

I'm sorry SD, I'm sure he's a sweetie but that is one butt ugly dog. No offense.

Posted by: Boko999 | March 26, 2008 12:34 AM | Report abuse

gwe, glad your mom is doing ok. she sounds like a strong lady.

Posted by: L.A. lurker | March 26, 2008 1:37 AM | Report abuse

Wilbrod - Both Bill and the Hon. Sen. Clinton (I certainly don't wish to restart the "misogynistic use of chicks' first names" debate again!) have infuriated me regularly in various ways, for various reasons.

But I gotta say that what might seem like a clearly unforgivable betrayal to you or me, [in the words of one or more Gershwins} "Ain't Necessarily So!"

As I've gotten older, my ability to accept and forgive imperfection in those about whom I care (even a little) has become fairly broad. I don't think that I'm so jaded that I don't care. I do think that I've come to realize that even failed good intentions actually are worth something, sometimes.

Anyway, for your sake, I hope that the candidate who is pure, and forthright, and has taken no crap from anyone, and is beholden to no one, comes along soon! My vote will be right there with yours!

Posted by: Bob S. | March 26, 2008 1:40 AM | Report abuse

Beautiful snow, SD.

gwe, good to hear that your mother is doing well.

Take care, bc.

Posted by: rainforest | March 26, 2008 1:54 AM | Report abuse

Wilbrod - This whole "wry humor" thing isn't easy to pull off in text mode! I think I've made it clear that I'm a big fan of Obama, but I'm not nuts about the "gotcha" politics of either camp.

Aahh, well, such is life. No one's perfect.

Posted by: Bob S. | March 26, 2008 2:03 AM | Report abuse

Actually, Bob S, I thought your first post was just about perfect.

gwe, best wishes for your mom.

shrieking, loved the pictures. Looks like the old lab has been a worthy mentor to the little guy!

Posted by: dbG | March 26, 2008 4:23 AM | Report abuse

*typing quietly so as to not wake mo up*

It's terribly nice of Major League Baseball to have a couple of games in Japan so I can watch before I head off to work.

And Manny needs to remember to run a little sooner after he hitz de ball... *L*

*Happy-Hump-Day-as-I-increase-mah-caffeination Grover waves* :-)

Posted by: Scottynuke | March 26, 2008 5:49 AM | Report abuse

Gooood morning, everybody! Busy Boodle overnight.

A functional bathroom! Good work, jack, I know the family is estatic. You'll find the door.

I finished and sent off the report I was working on last night, from a conference Mr. T and I attended two years ago. Now I can have my life back! No, it really wasn't that bad, but I ran out of words at the end. It's hard to remember stuff from 24 months ago.

Posted by: slyness | March 26, 2008 7:17 AM | Report abuse

SD - great pictures.

GWE, continued best wishes to your mom.

I believe my internet connection at work will be terminated today, so if I don't post have a great day all.

Snow is melting here!!

Posted by: dmd | March 26, 2008 7:20 AM | Report abuse

Hey You all, can't believe I'm just after Scotty and before Cassandra! If I read the boodle long enough, maybe I will remember where everybody lives, well regionwise, anyway.

GWE, your mother sounds remarkable....my own mother had the same surgery when she was 70 something, no reoccurance and now she is a spritley 90.

Posted by: VintageLady | March 26, 2008 7:34 AM | Report abuse

Well, I mispoke (typed?) Good morning slyness and dmd!

Posted by: VintageLady | March 26, 2008 7:38 AM | Report abuse

I wonder why Achenfamily have not considered Virginia colleges & universities? Not knowing which state they live in could be the difference, but still, as a provincial born & bred Virginian I believe we have a pretty good offering for most of our young citizens. When you get right down to it, not all students can qualify for tuition refunds, grants, loans, so I think Virginia's rates are competitive. And, North Carolina is another state which has lots of choices.

Posted by: VintageLady | March 26, 2008 7:50 AM | Report abuse

Thanks for the comments on the pics, even you boko. One either gets the dogue de bordeaux or not. They are different, that's for sure.
The quilter is the mother of my kids. I've got many more pics of her work, I may post a collection some day.
Believe it or not the temperature is ABOVE freezing today! Yoohoo!

Posted by: shrieking denizen | March 26, 2008 8:14 AM | Report abuse

VL - you are right about the quality of VA schools. As a resident of Northern Virginia we are looking forward to sending our son to a quality school with in-state tuition. Unfortunately, so are 'bout a bazillion other bright-eyed over-achieving residents of the state. These schools are getting harder and harder to get into.

The Achenclan live in DC, so they (I believe) have the ability to get in-state tuition at public institutions just about anywhere.

Posted by: RD Padouk | March 26, 2008 8:20 AM | Report abuse

Have been extremely busy doing reviews of various programs. So many of them have a low probability of success, but the pay-off is huge. (This must be how it feels to work for the Clinton Campaign)

Posted by: RD Padouk | March 26, 2008 8:28 AM | Report abuse

DNA-your briefs are spot-on!

About college and finances: so much luck is involved, despite the general wonderfulness of applicants. Some get; some don't. Some places shower child x; other schools give nothing to that child x. The pie is divided in some mysterious, mysterious way.

DoC said that wonderful scientists come out of non-name graduate schools. All students, wherever, should strive to become engaged in the intellectual life of campus. Connections with peers and professors and ideas make a world of difference for career and grad school....and relationships!

Posted by: College Parkian | March 26, 2008 8:29 AM | Report abuse

sd,
All dogs regardless of size think they're lap dogs. Your picture proves it.

Posted by: yellojkt | March 26, 2008 8:40 AM | Report abuse

What annoys me about college financial aid is the Frosh Bribe. This is when incoming Freshman are given a very generous aid package, including, you know, full hot-tub privileges. Alas, once one becomes a sophomore the generosity of the institution typically becomes much more strained. By then, of course, they gotcha and you are forced to take out bigger loans and put your surplus electronics into hock.

I wish colleges would offer four-year packages. This would be much more honest.

Posted by: RD Padouk | March 26, 2008 8:45 AM | Report abuse

New Kit with some more mysterious buildings!

Posted by: shrieking denizen | March 26, 2008 8:59 AM | Report abuse

Austere late-wintry early-spring to vernal equinox scenes, resplendecene, reflectional, browns & golds, tributary streams gentley melting ice and snow, glowing sun, ...serenity, ... buding, las brotas; Great Falls; feathered friends: three red-tailed hawks, appear; percehd ahigh; Great Falls, bluebirds, cedar waxwings, juncos, cards, ducks and Canadian guesse, something remeniscent of a Kingfisher? Nature speaking and coming to appreciate the Winter, yes. Nuts and Berries, and brilliant gloss of sun-rays against Holly mountain laurel, and other flora.
Thank you, guys for all those photos. Thought of a DC photo journey of area churches and other historic places of interest. keep them coming,
Marcus

Posted by: Marcus | April 7, 2008 6:08 PM | Report abuse

Omar, and others, have you been to Rome's Vatican: Michaelangelo's Sistine Chapel, the Duomo, Baldoccino-St. Peter's resting place; Bernini's Collumnade, symbolic of the embrace, Brunelsechi's Dome, the Pieta; the church nave and transcept, symbol of the ark with ribbed, barrel and vaulted arches. The light reflected at various angles. Octagonal-8 fountains-symbolic of baptism, and quatrofolios?
I look forward to visiting Andalusia: Grenada, Toledo, Sevilla, Moorish influence: ornate, intrictae, geometric patterns: Alahmbra, curved archways and passages, delicate pools, fountains, blue-green tiling amidst jeweled gardens; and flora and fruit trees.
Some will appreciate; whilst other, cannot.
Accept these things with serenity.

Posted by: Marcus | April 7, 2008 6:47 PM | Report abuse

Omar, and others, have you been to Rome's Vatican: Michaelangelo's Sistine Chapel, the Duomo, Baldoccino-St. Peter's resting place; Bernini's Collumnade, symbolic of the embrace, Brunelsechi's Dome, the Pieta; the church nave and transcept, symbol of the ark with ribbed, barrel and vaulted arches. The light reflected at various angles. Octagonal-8 fountains-symbolic of baptism, and quatrofolios?
I look forward to visiting Andalusia: Grenada, Toledo, Sevilla, Moorish influence: ornate, intrictae, geometric patterns: Alahmbra, curved archways and passages, delicate pools, fountains, blue-green tiling amidst jeweled gardens; and flora and fruit trees.
Some will appreciate; whilst other, cannot.
Accept these things with serenity.

Posted by: Marcus | April 7, 2008 6:47 PM | Report abuse

Omar, and others, have you been to Rome's Vatican: Michaelangelo's Sistine Chapel, the Duomo, Baldoccino-St. Peter's resting place; Bernini's Collumnade, symbolic of the embrace, Brunelsechi's Dome, the Pieta; the church nave and transcept, symbol of the ark with ribbed, barrel and vaulted arches. The light reflected at various angles. Octagonal-8 fountains-symbolic of baptism, and quatrofolios?
I look forward to visiting Andalusia: Grenada, Toledo, Sevilla, Moorish influence: ornate, intrictae, geometric patterns: Alahmbra, curved archways and passages, delicate pools, fountains, blue-green tiling amidst jeweled gardens; and flora and fruit trees.
Some will appreciate; whilst other, cannot.
Accept these things with serenity.

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