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48 Million Votes to Go

Sixty-five million: I'm guessing that's the absolute minimum number of votes a candidate will need this November to win the presidency. (This number is pulled out of my ear, of course, but just consider that Dubya got 62 million in 2004, almost precisely 50 percent. Turnout ought to be up this year because of the public interest in an historic race; a strong third-party candidate could scramble everything.) So far Barack Obama has earned the votes of about 17 million people over the course of 54 primaries and caucuses. To a large extent this election pivots on whether Americans are comfortable with the notion of a President Obama. The issues line up well for him. But he's got to get himself into people's comfort zone.

This morning I keep thinking about the Robert Redford movie, "The Candidate." You know that famous scene at the end:

McKay escapes the victory party and pulls Lucas into a room while throngs of journalists clamor outside. McKay then asks Lucas: "Marvin ... What do we do now?" The media throng arrives to drag them out at that moment and McKay never receives an answer.


Last night HRC told her listeners to go to her Web site and tell her what she should do from here on. When you go to the site, you're directed to a box that says, "I'm with you Hillary, and I'm proud of everything we are fighting for." Below that, you can type a message. Or you can post a message to her blog. A rather startling uniformity of opinion will be found there -- it's like the only comment thread in America that is completely pro-Hillary. A sample:

-- ' I can follow you to Denver, I will follow you as an independent, as senator, but I cannot follow you if you join with your opponent. I am tired of the "politics as usual" he offers. This is not about a party, the issues are bigger to me. It is about our vote and our Democracy.'

-- 'Take it to Denver. The bigger issue for myself, is this was a slap in the face to women everywhere. During my caucus over heard 2 men speaking about how they could never vote for a woman. The DNC has caused this division with the help of the media. Are people really that afraid of a strong woman? Were they afraid she might actually CHANGE Washington? I do not want to see Hillary as Obama's VP, I would much rather see her fight in the Senate if that turns out to be her option. I will not vote for Obama, the Democratic Party has put a very sour taste in my mouth. The DNC let down the majority of Americans that cast their vote and I for one will not forget come November.'

-- ' I could care less about unifying the party...they can fall flat on their faces. How can anyone, including Hillary, remain loyal to this party, after what they've done. She must have a heavy heart tonight...trying to decide what to do. She will definitely need our prayers over the next few days. If I were her I'd ask Bill and my staff to help me organize and start my own darn party!!'


I'm going to be immortal.


Hagiography Watch:

A major New York City newspaper writes of Obama:

"He turned down a prestigious federal appellate court clerkship while at Harvard to work as a community organizer."

Later the story says: "Abner J. Mikva, the former judge, asked Mr. Obama, fresh out of Harvard, to apply as his clerk. Mr. Obama declined, preferring to labor as a community organizer."

Nope. Went to work as a community organizer after he graduated from Columbia. Only after being a community organizer did he go to Harvard Law School. After law school he joined a public-interest law firm.

But everyone is making this mistake - I'm told Nader made it in a WSJ piece the other day.

(Note this interesting tidbit in the otherwise excellent story: 'He favors moderate tastes, preferring organic tea to a tumbler of gin, salmon to steak, a fruit plate to fries. He jokes about tossing back a beer, but his tippling amounts to a swig or two, most often to try to prove to television cameras that he is a "regular guy."') [I want to see him crush the beer can on his forehead.]

UPDATE 6/6/2008: Correcting my own correction:

The other day I wrote that a NYTimes piece on Obama incorrectly reported that he returned to Chicago from Harvard to be a community organizer. Obama spent several years as a community organizer before he went to Harvard. But the reporter, former Postie Michael Powell, says I've got it wrong, because Obama was an organizer both before and after Harvard. He writes: "Obama, who had labored as an organizer before Harvard, also returned to Chicago to take a position as AN ORGANIZER. He ran a voter registration and education campaign, known as Illinois Project Vote, an organizing effort targeting Chicago's low income blacks. This organizing campaign was part of a statewide project and played a role in helping Bill Clinton and Carol Braun gain victories in 1992. Only then, after 6 months of organizing, did he decide to take a relatively low paying job in a law firm. (Where he continued to do some organizing, but that's another story ... ) ... Obama clearly could have made a bundle working for a white shoe law firm in NY, DC or Chicago."

By Joel Achenbach  |  June 4, 2008; 11:29 AM ET
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Good afternoon, from my new digs. I have a laboratory now.

Posted by: jack | June 4, 2008 12:12 PM | Report abuse

Joel, the scary thing is that I knew exactly what your "immortal" link was going to be before I clicked on it.

Posted by: RD Padouk | June 4, 2008 12:23 PM | Report abuse

JA-did you mean "The Candidate" not "The Graduate" or am I missing a joke? (I miss them all the time)

Posted by: frostbitten | June 4, 2008 12:29 PM | Report abuse

Joel, would that movie be "The Candidate?" The answer in "The Graduate" would have been *plastics.*

RD, I don't think half the Democrats are just irrationally ticked off at the other half. I think while the Senators are close on almost all issues that the voters are turned off/turned on by the temperment/style of a specific candidate.

Posted by: dbG | June 4, 2008 12:30 PM | Report abuse

The movie is listed as "The Graduate", but the wiki is pointed to "The Candidate". Now all I can see in my head is Hillary pounding on the windows of the Democratic National Convention a la Dustin Hoffman. :D

Posted by: CentrevilleMom | June 4, 2008 12:30 PM | Report abuse

See, this is why I want a concession by Clinton. Not so I can sing that song from the Wizard of Oz (You know the one) but because right now half the potential electorate is irrationally angry (I used an earthier term earlier) at the other.

The rancor cuts deep and isn't going to go away so long as there is the tiniest modicum of hope for some kind of delegate deus ex machina in Denver.

Until this possibility is not merely dead, but really most sincerely dead, we will continue to be subjected to scornful comments regarding Obama and the DNC in general. McCain is already trotting this stuff out.

Americans have long been accused of having a short memory and being hypocritical. But in situations like this these traits can work to our advantage.

Posted by: RD Padouk | June 4, 2008 12:33 PM | Report abuse

Hillary supporters should be blaming Seven of Nine for giving Sen. Obama his shot at national prominence.

Posted by: Boko999 | June 4, 2008 12:33 PM | Report abuse

I was going to write about the Candidate mistake, but now I'm just laughing at the image provided by Centreville mom. Awesome!

Posted by: md | June 4, 2008 12:33 PM | Report abuse

Okay, so maybe half the electorate is *rationally* angry at the other half. Is this really a helpful situation to anyone except McCain?

Posted by: RD Padouk | June 4, 2008 12:35 PM | Report abuse

I registered to be able to comment on Hillary's blog, and to see if something positive, but not rabidly supportive of her continued candidacy would make it past whatever screening devices they have. My comment encouraging her to seek a seat on the supreme court did not make it. I am disappointed. Not surprised, but oh so disappointed. If anyone visits and sees "supremefan" as a Hill handle, let me know and I'll retract my PO'dness.

Posted by: frostbitten | June 4, 2008 12:36 PM | Report abuse

But do you hace a faithful assistant, jack?


Posted by: Scottynuke | June 4, 2008 12:39 PM | Report abuse

SCC: HAVE a faithful assistant, of course... *SIGH*

Posted by: Scottynuke | June 4, 2008 12:40 PM | Report abuse

Repost: Wanna see a truly cool dress? search on Giles Decon

Posted by: omni | June 4, 2008 12:43 PM | Report abuse

Front Page Alert, too.

Posted by: Scottynuke | June 4, 2008 12:44 PM | Report abuse

Joel, that wine article says I'd have to drink about a hundred bottles of red wine a day. Fortunately, I don't see a problem with that. What the he11, I'm on three diuretics already.

Posted by: Curmudgeon | June 4, 2008 12:45 PM | Report abuse

I can't wait to go home and watch the AIPAC speech. I've spent the last couple of months arguing with several family members, all living outside the US, about how Obama is not evil. They are convinced POTUS is here to serve the interests of the State of Israel before those of the USA. I've been called a few ugly things for arguing it isn't so.

Posted by: a bea c | June 4, 2008 12:46 PM | Report abuse

Reposted from previous, though tragically off Kit:

"dmd, I've attended the Canadian GP in Montreal several times; of all of the Grands Prix I've attended, that's my favorite.

In fact, the photo accompanying that article was taken in 1988, a year I went to the race (Senna beat Prost with a nifty pass into the hairpin where I was sitting, expecting such a move), and in fact have some photos (sadly, not digitized yet) from that year's race of groundhogs on the track.

I think it was about a year ago when I spoke with Error about going to this year's Canadian GP. We laughed about the famous groundhogs as course marshals, wearing white suits. When I pressed him about making plans to go, he sighed and told me that he didn't expect to see it at all, much less attend.

Ever have one of those moments when the world shifts beneath your feet? That was one for me...

I'm sure I'll go to other Canadaian GPs in the future - heck, I'd go this year if I could - but I won't ever think about the race without having him on my mind.

On other notes, that article describes Jacques Villenuve as "underachieving." I hardly think the 1995 Indy 500 and CART season championship as well as a bunch of F1 wins and the 1997 F1 Word Championship as underacheievments (just ask Mike Andretti...).

To LIT's "Betelgeuse! Betelgeuse! Betelgeuse!", I'd add that I used to make my girls laugh when they were little by standing in front of a mirror and asking, "Mirror, mirror, on the wall who's the... (today I say "greatest gladiator of them all").

Oh, I've been so verbose today...


Posted by: bc | June 4, 2008 12:57 PM | Report abuse

Gotta laugh at this graf from the Wiki entry about the film, "The Candidate":

It has been reported that upon viewing the film ["The Candidate"], Dan Quayle came to the conclusion that since he was more handsome than Robert Redford, he would be well-equipped to win a campaign to enter the White House. Ironically, the future vice-president of the United States, perhaps inadvertently, highlights one of the themes of the piece - that no matter the ideology or interests of the candidate, the business of political campaigning is driven by image.

Posted by: Loomis | June 4, 2008 1:06 PM | Report abuse

The screen's gone all blurry, no wait, it's not the computer. Error in '08

Posted by: frostbitten | June 4, 2008 1:07 PM | Report abuse

so if half of the electorate is rationally angry, is the other half irrationally angry?


Thats just the wine talking.

Posted by: smartinsen | June 4, 2008 1:09 PM | Report abuse

Thanks, Boko, for the longish epical pome.

Posted by: College Parkian | June 4, 2008 1:12 PM | Report abuse

I have no problem with a female candidate. I just have a problem with the current choice of females being another Clinton. Don't get me wrong -- I liked Bill and still do to an extent, and I really don't have any ill feelings towards Hillary. But when I think of Bush(41)=4 years, Clinton=8 years, Bush(43)=8 years, then another potential 4-to-8-year Clinton round... and the possibility of Chelsea running the show in 8 or 12 years...

WTF? Are there only two families in American politics these days?

Maybe we should just go apologize to England for that whole Tea Party incident and ask if they'll take us back so we can be ruled by one or two families for the next couple hundred years.

Sorry if that doesn't come across as polite for any UK readers, but seriously... this country was FOUNDED because we wanted independence from "royals".

The Clintons and Bushes are America's "new" royals. (I wanted to add a colorful adjective to that, but I didn't want to make 'Mudge blush).

Obama won my vote in the primary (and will again in the general this November) because he represents (in my unhumble opinion) not just "change", but an opportunity and drive to rejuvenate and restore a country and populace that's hurting more than many are willing to admit.

{* steps off his soapbox to eat a pot of *real* manfood -- a can of baked beans with six strips of bacon, two chopped up hotdogs and a generous dash of maple syrup added in *}

Posted by: martooni | June 4, 2008 1:15 PM | Report abuse

Late, as usual (one thing done, two more added to the list), but I wanted to ask Loomis...about your post in the last boodle, are you saying that the parenting techniques of your parents and grandparents produced thoughtful, educated citizens with a sense of empathy, responsibility and service to the world and humanity? Should we be immersed in their techniques, like a 21st century Dr. Spock (no not that one bc), in order that we may raise like-minded citizens of the world?

Another aspect of your post seems out of character for you. I suspect that had you been talking about any other person, you wouldn't be hanging your hat on the illegitimate child*, you would be arguing the side of the mother (she was 17 and he was an older, married man, and that the act would constitute rape (pedophilia/age of consent as well as the whole manipulation factor necessary to bed a child).)

I'm not sure if you what point you were making, other than your parents did it differently. Which seems, well, clear.

*illegitimate children...that one has always struck me as odd. What, they're not really children? Are they generic somehow?

Posted by: LostInThought | June 4, 2008 1:16 PM | Report abuse

Connecticut Chris Cilliza reports on his blog that the Obama camp will be adding six new consulting teams (long list of names with different roles and target audiences) to create the Obama Media Team.

So, can all the king's horses and all the king's men (probably being paid a king's ransom--see history of the Crusades for info about kings' ransoms) put the HDP* back together again?

*Humpty Dumpty Party

Posted by: Loomis | June 4, 2008 1:21 PM | Report abuse

Achenbach, just wanna let you know the movie was "The Candidate" and not "The Graduate."
On another note, I say if you read this go to Hillary's website and tell her to drop dead...nah j/k, i mean tell her to call it a day and do what is best for the country and not whats best for her...for once

Posted by: joshtheVET | June 4, 2008 1:22 PM | Report abuse

this is what i recall from the last few months: HRC reports being fired on in Bosnia (never happened); HRC hints anyone who doesn't vote for her is sexist (what about the millions of women who voted for her opponent?); HRC's hub plays the race card in South Carolina; HRC states openly that she represents the 'good white people' in West Virginia and Kentucky; HRC notes that an assassination could (might? should?) happen.

And she should be VP.

Excuse me. I don't think so. Don't let the door hit you on the way out.

just sayin....

Posted by: butlerguy | June 4, 2008 1:25 PM | Report abuse

That dress link I posted: Think 'Bleeding Bambi'. Now get on over there and have a laugh... search on Giles Decon

I'm often irrational, but hardly ever angry. And shouldn't it be quarters. I see it as half the electorate being gleeful.

Posted by: omni | June 4, 2008 1:26 PM | Report abuse


If only she had been as kinky as her husband thought she looked.

Hillary should thank Giuliani's prostrate for her chance to run for President. There are a lot of horse's nails in this narrative.

Posted by: yellojkt | June 4, 2008 1:27 PM | Report abuse

mr. martooni is brilliant.

Posted by: butlerguy | June 4, 2008 1:29 PM | Report abuse

Someone scc for me. There's a tornado warning (I'm not that far NWW of the DC area). Time to grab DC and head to the basement.
Happy day all.

Posted by: LostInThought | June 4, 2008 1:29 PM | Report abuse

I think Joel accidentally glommed onto the fact that The Graduate has better Clinton-applicable quotes. All you need to do is make the obvious substitutions of names.

Room Clerk: Are you here for an affair, sir?
Benjamin: What?
Room Clerk: The Singleman party, sir?
Benjamin: Ah, yes, the Singleman party.

Benjamin: Mrs. Robinson, you're trying to seduce me.

Benjamin: Listen to me. What happened between Mrs. Robinson and me was nothing. It didn't mean anything. We might just as well have been shaking hands.
Mr. Robinson: Shaking hands? Well, that's not saying much for my wife, is it?

Mrs. Robinson: Do you find me undesirable?
Benjamin: Oh no, Mrs. Robinson. I think, I think you're the most attractive of all my parents' friends. I mean that.

Mr. McCleery: You aren't one of those agitators, are you?
Benjamin: What?
Mr. McCleery: I hate 'em. I won't stand for it.

Posted by: byoolin | June 4, 2008 1:45 PM | Report abuse

i got nuttin except:


bc - i wish i had been lucky enough to meet the man IRL...

Posted by: mo | June 4, 2008 1:45 PM | Report abuse

Tornado watch for parts of D.C. area until 8 p.m.
June 4, 2008 - 1:32pm

WASHINGTON - A tornado watch is in effect for much of the Washington area until 8 p.m. Wednesday. The National Weather Service has issued the watch for portions of D.C., western and central Maryland and northern and central Virginia.
A tornado watch means conditions are favorable for tornadoes and severe thunderstorms in and close to the watch area. People in these areas should be on the lookout for threatening weather conditions and listen for later statements and possible warnings.

For more information on current conditions in your area, click here.

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WASHINGTON - A tornado watch is in effect for much of the Washington area until 8 p.m. Wednesday. The National Weather Service has issued the watch for portions of D.C., western and central Maryland and northern and central Virginia.
A tornado watch means conditions are favorable for tornadoes and severe thunderstorms in and close to the watch area. People in these areas should be on the lookout for threatening weather conditions and listen for later statements and possible warnings.

Posted by: mo | June 4, 2008 1:50 PM | Report abuse


Posted by: mo | June 4, 2008 1:53 PM | Report abuse

Good luck to all in the twister warning affected areas.

Posted by: Kerric | June 4, 2008 1:57 PM | Report abuse

Your post had me rolling in gales of laughter. The Boston Tea Party wasn't about the royals per se, but about the unfair taxation without representation in the Westminster Parliament. Crimeny.

There is a similar tale in herstory.

To commemorate the centennial of the Boston Tea Party on Dec. 15, 1873, some 300 people gathered in Faneuil Hall and Boston Harbor for a "New England Woman's Tea Party," demanding "no taxation without representation." The New England Woman's Suffrage Association (NEWSA) and the Woman's Journal publicized this gathering, calling taxation a "tyranny" against women and a slap in the face of democracy. Lucy Stone, Julia Ward Howe, Wendell Phillips, Frederick Douglass, and Thomas W. Higginson were among the events's celebrated speakers. Nearly 600 people joined a similar protest by the New York Woman's Suffrage Society, where Susan B. Anthony addressed the crowd, urging women nationwide to refuse to pay taxes until they could vote. Philadelphia celebrated with a similar tea party in January 1974.


In January 1874, George Andrews, tax collector of Glastonbury, Connecticut, seized seven of the eight cows belonging to lifetime residents Julia and Anny Smith, for failing to pay their taxes. The Smith sisters refused to let this go without a fight, and undertook a campaign to challenge this injustice and gain public sympathy.

Having attended the Connecticut Woman Suffrage Association in 1869, the sisters learned about women who had been demanding "no taxation without representation." In the spring of 1873, they asked the town registrar to list them as voters. He, of course, refused.

After attending the AWSA annual convention in New York City that fall they returned home to find their taxes increased to $200. As Glastonbury's highest taxpayers, and at the ripe ages of 81 and 76, Julia and Abbey began their protest. For too long, men's decisions in spending town revenues had upset them.

Appearing at the next town meeting, they announced their refusal to pay taxes until they could vote. In response, Andrews took their cows in January 1874 and sold them; a few months later he sold 11 acres of their land. The story made great press (Boston Daily Advertiser, Harpers's, Woman's Journal) and sympathy for the sisters was immediate.

And this was how women's Boston Tea Party originated. It would still be decades before women won the right to vote.

LiT, well said.

Posted by: Loomis | June 4, 2008 1:58 PM | Report abuse

SCC: Deepest thanks to Sally McMillen of North Carolina for her labor and research.

Posted by: Loomis | June 4, 2008 2:00 PM | Report abuse

butlerguy... I don't usually see (or hear) "brilliant" in the same sentence as my name. Unless followed by "jacka$$" or "failure" or "implosion". But thank you. :-)

I'm trying to get some work done out in the shop, but I keep finding myself gravitating towards the TV to watch the reactions to Obama's win and Hillary's denial. The focus right now seems to be on Hillary refusing to concede while saying she'll do whatever she can as a potential VP candidate to help the Dem party win the White House.

All I can say is she's got bigger cajones than me or anyone else I know if she thinks Obama would seriously consider putting her on the ticket as a running mate after all the guano she's flung at him.

Politics may make for strange bedfellows, but somehow I don't see Barack and Hillary (and Bill) willingly sharing a blanket and pillow and still be able to pretend to respect each other in the morning.

Posted by: martooni | June 4, 2008 2:05 PM | Report abuse

A new way to oppose teaching evolution... demanding the study of the theory's "strengths and weaknesses."

I didn't think there were any weaknesses to the theory...

Posted by: TBG | June 4, 2008 2:16 PM | Report abuse

One of the big questions is how many of Hillary's 18 million votes will Obama keep? Hillary was the more centrist of the two.

Posted by: yellojkt | June 4, 2008 2:17 PM | Report abuse

Salmon, organic tea, and fruit plates are what my buddies and I always have when we're just hanging around.

Posted by: Regular Guy | June 4, 2008 2:24 PM | Report abuse

TBG, I haven't read the article, and I'm not particularly knowledgeable about evolutionary theory. But even if the intent of such a "demand" is to cast doubt on it, I have no problems with teaching principles of scientific reasoning and discussing what sort of evidence there is and what kinds of conclusions that evidence supports, and what it doesn't, and what counter-evidence would look like, and what we don't know yet, and what changes there have been in the theory through its history, etc. I think we run into bigger problems when evolution (and scientific findings in general) is presented as an article of faith, set in stone and all figured out. Because then you've just set it up to be rejected as a matter of faith.

Posted by: bia | June 4, 2008 2:31 PM | Report abuse

yellojkt... I think as long as Hillary handles her concession in a "graceful" way (not my words), whether she's on the ticket as VP or not, the majority of that 18 million would go for Obama. I also have a feeling that even if she takes this all the way to Denver and makes a big pissing match out of it, the majority of those 18M would still end up behind Obama by November.

The ones who decide not to vote (or vote for McCain) out of spite are entitled to be fools, but I don't think there are enough of them to matter.

If this primary had gone the other way, I would have probably switched to Hillary's camp because there's no way I'd vote for the alternative (McCain/Bush). I just hope that sentiment works both ways and the Dems will "unify".

{* buzzword bingo results: I got "graceful" and "unify". "Camp", "Denver" and "ticket" might also count -- maybe half a delegate. I probably could have worked in a bunch more, but nobody's keeping score, right? *}

Posted by: martooni | June 4, 2008 2:41 PM | Report abuse

But that's a "straw man" argument, bia. No reputable science teacher or biologist presents evolution as "set in stone" and especially not "all figured out." They are have questions and arguments about this or that detail, and they are quite frank and candid about saying which questions or problems (viz., explaining the Cambrian explosion) are still under debate. And read any book by the late great Stephen J. Gould and you'll find all sorts of wrinkles and questions being debated, such as whether evolution works in a more or less steady pattern, or in jumps and spurts, as Gould has postulated. The problem is that the Creationist wack jobs (and that's what they are) cannot enter that debate because they don't understand the fundamental precepts of scientific thinking and its rules of discourse. (And of course, they already know The Answer, so for them it is merely a question of warping the "evidence" so it fits.)

Posted by: Curmudgeon | June 4, 2008 2:42 PM | Report abuse

holy shmaholey - i don't know nuttin about tornadoes but i just looked out my window and the sky over va (from the dc side of the potomac) is BLACK...

Posted by: mo | June 4, 2008 2:58 PM | Report abuse

What 'Mudge said.

Posted by: byoolin | June 4, 2008 2:59 PM | Report abuse

OK, yes, sorta, Mudge. (I really should read that article so I know what I'm debating. But oh well. I'll just keep talking off the top of my head.) But two things.

First, of course you're right about "reputable" science teachers and biologists, but I'm not convinced that that's how science education happens a lot of the time. I certainly remember a whole lot of memorizing "this is how it is." And there were units on the scientific method, but the connections with the "this is how it is" units weren't really clear, and I don't remember anything about "this is what we don't know" or "this is what scientists are fighting about." So maybe science education is better these days; I hope so.

Second, my point is that if that's how you're already teaching, you don't have to worry about guidelines that tell you to point out flaws, whatever the intent of those guidelines. You can just say, yeah, I'm already doing that, and get on with your business.

Posted by: bia | June 4, 2008 3:05 PM | Report abuse

"Weaknesses" is being used as a camel nose. It's a loophole large enough to drive an entire viewing of Ben Stein's 'Expelled' through. And who wouldn't trust Ferris Buehler's teacher?

Posted by: yellojkt | June 4, 2008 3:05 PM | Report abuse

A thought rattling around for some time about Obama's "lack of experience" and how harping on it could deliver him the election. No one seems to dispute that he's done the near impossible by mobilizing young people. These same young people are not happy with the mess the "experienced" have made of things and whether 'tis fault or asset they don't believe that waiting your turn is necessary when it comes to leading big enterprises, be they Facebook or the United States. I'm not going to defend this POV, however, I also wouldn't defend the position that no one should jump the queue.

Posted by: frostbitten | June 4, 2008 3:06 PM | Report abuse

We got lightning and rain falling sideways. Guess I'm getting wet on my homeward commute. DANG

Posted by: omni | June 4, 2008 3:11 PM | Report abuse

Ed Rendell just told NPR's "Day to Day" that he thinks Hillary will be conceding shortly, as in next couple days. Hmmmmm.

Posted by: frostbitten | June 4, 2008 3:16 PM | Report abuse

We got lightning and rain falling sideways. Guess I'm getting wet on my homeward commute. DANG

Posted by: omni | June 4, 2008 3:21 PM | Report abuse

Yeah, this thing outside just whipped up in the last five minutes with some wicked wind, sideways rain, thunder and lightning. At first, all the smokers out under the overhangs stood their ground, but not for long.

Now the sky is going green.

Posted by: Curmudgeon | June 4, 2008 3:22 PM | Report abuse

Whoa, take a look at the radar map:

Posted by: omni | June 4, 2008 3:24 PM | Report abuse

CP - A thought just crossed my mind, slowly, very slowly, that your degree of separation from JA, expressed in Imaginary Numbers, is 1. So, (r)=3, (i)=1. For all the boodlers you have personally met you may express that relationship as (r)=1, (i)=1.

For those boodlers who have not met any of the others (myself, cassandra, a bea c?, rainforest?, and others) we still have (i)=1. For family and friends of such boodlers we have (i)=2. In both cases, (r) is either unknown or possibly ∞.

Jack - tell us about your new digs.

yellowjkt - Was half aware that "Raising Duncan" was an old strip. I like "Calvin and Hobbes" also but I guess now you are going to tell me... wait!...WHAT!


Posted by: DLD | June 4, 2008 3:30 PM | Report abuse

Green sky is bad, Mudge. Get away from windows, please.

Posted by: TBG | June 4, 2008 3:30 PM | Report abuse

Green sky is not a good thing.

One thing I specifically remember about a big tornado breakout around this area back in '85 was green sky. Creepy looking. And the wind blew in strange ways -- the trees all turned their leaves bottom-side up and the wind seemed to come from the ground or straight down (no sideways). I can't remember how many people were killed (there were quite a few), but the damage just took your breath away -- shopping plazas leveled, entire neighborhoods just gone. You could still see the tornado paths several years later -- tree-covered ridges with big gaping scars where trees used to be, surrounded by trees that survived but lost their tops.

All I can say is if you're seeing green sky, please get your butt to a basement or other safe and sturdy place and drag whoever's near you with you.

Posted by: martooni | June 4, 2008 3:38 PM | Report abuse

Thanks to Homeland Security, TBG, the glass at my cubby is bullet-proof, shatter-proof, bomb-proof, Bin Laden-proof, and probably rotten-tomato-proof.

Just called my wife in Waldorf; she says the news has reported 60 mph winds in Waldorf.

Now a dead calm outside.

Posted by: Curmudgeon | June 4, 2008 3:41 PM | Report abuse

I just looked at the radar. Was Washington destroyed by some kind of massive storm when I wasn't looking? Gosh that's a scary blog moving across the area.

FYI, I posted earlier in a rush, and ran out the door to have lunch with the blog editors at the Four Courts (Courthouse Metro, near WPNI). I can't figure out who fixed the Graduate/Candidate thing. A mysterious helping hand. A movie angel.

Posted by: Achenbach | June 4, 2008 3:57 PM | Report abuse

I drove through sideways rain heading west on 70. I guess 85% of the people pulled on the side of the road,I couldn't find a spot.Shue and whee it was nasty.

Posted by: greenwithenvy | June 4, 2008 3:57 PM | Report abuse

ok - everything looks like it's clearing up outside...

they made us go down to the basement... rain was blowing buckets of water sideways against the bldg and the wind was fierce!

Posted by: mo | June 4, 2008 3:58 PM | Report abuse

PG Schools just cancelled afterschool activities. Sheesh, I was hoping CPBoy would stay in the building while this passes. Sump Pump II seems to be working. I hope the power holds out.

Still greenish but not the green line of earlier. Line storms are scary and a variation of the green sky that signals bad stuff.

May have to drive out to get him.

Posted by: College Parkian | June 4, 2008 4:06 PM | Report abuse

I was listening to Talk of The Nation and a comment was made regarding the ferocity of the storm in the DC area. Be careful, my friends.

Posted by: jack | June 4, 2008 4:08 PM | Report abuse

I've got bad news for you about The Far Side, Pogo, and Li'l Abner.

Posted by: yellojkt | June 4, 2008 4:09 PM | Report abuse

The whole country is windy this year.

Posted by: eidrib | June 4, 2008 4:15 PM | Report abuse

Is everybody okay in the Metro DC area?

North Rim of the Grand Canyon is AWESOME indeed. I'll post the photos when we get home. We had lunch (no kidding!) at Guano Point. Yeah, I got a picture!

There were high clouds overhead but that was fine by me. I'm glad we did the first trip of the day. The guy at the Boulder City airport said the trip in the 20-seat prop would be like a rollercoaster later in the day. It was bumpy enough that I had to hold on to my seat and keep my eyes closed most of the way back. The helicopter ride into the canyon was fabulous, in contrast.

Mr. T is napping, and I get to use his computer. We got up at 4:10 and had lunch at 9:30 but that was okay because it's keeping us on East Coast time.

CP, the instructions for my funeral specify Donne's Holy Sonnet 10 as a reading. I hope I qualify for Proverbs 31, but I'm certainly not going to suggest it myself.

I'll get back into politics mode when I get home.

Posted by: slyness | June 4, 2008 4:17 PM | Report abuse

Slyness--was there last year. The Grand Canyon has no rivals.

Posted by: eidrib | June 4, 2008 4:20 PM | Report abuse

It is eeriely calm again in the DC area. The trees outside my window look exhausted. I only lost power for a blip, but it was enough to scare the {expletive} out of my computer. At least I had saved everything beforehand. I now have to check my Timeslips (hoping that it didn't flip its lid).

Hope all is well with all.

Posted by: firsttimeblogger | June 4, 2008 4:24 PM | Report abuse

Does anyone on these blogs realize or care what deep do-do GWB left us in - didn't think so - I don't hate Obama - he needs some tutoring and he'll be fine - if nothing horrendous happens the first 18 months of his Presidency or the last few months of GWB's - I will give thanks to God - Hillary will be fine - its difficult for a winner to lose - very difficult - I used to stay up all night after a loss in sports - the magnitude of her loss is so much greater. I'd vote for her again and hope I get the chance and I hope Obama wins and does a great job! Because if he wins and does well so do we. Think about it.

Posted by: Jack | June 4, 2008 4:25 PM | Report abuse

Does anyone on these blogs realize or care what deep do-do GWB left us in - didn't think so - I don't hate Obama - he needs some tutoring and he'll be fine - if nothing horrendous happens the first 18 months of his Presidency or the last few months of GWB's - I will give thanks to God - Hillary will be fine - its difficult for a winner to lose - very difficult - I used to stay up all night after a loss in sports - the magnitude of her loss is so much greater. I'd vote for her again and hope I get the chance and I hope Obama wins and does a great job! Because if he wins and does well so do we. Think about it.

Posted by: Jack | June 4, 2008 4:25 PM | Report abuse

Jack, don't worry. We've already discussed GWB and where he's taken us.

Posted by: dbG | June 4, 2008 4:29 PM | Report abuse

"The trees outside my window look exhausted."
Good one.

Posted by: Anonymous | June 4, 2008 4:34 PM | Report abuse

I don't have to strain my brain to imagine what kind of mess this little dustup has left our roads in: Traffic lights out, trees splattered everywhere, streets flooded, vehicles left in the middle of the road. And this is all before I get out of the Navy Yard!! Yuck.

I may as well just sleep at my desk tonight. It'll be just like during the daytime. :-)

Posted by: Don from I-270 | June 4, 2008 4:41 PM | Report abuse

Running for the boat. I mean, the bus.

CP, check your e-mail.

Posted by: Curmudgeon | June 4, 2008 4:54 PM | Report abuse

Hope you all are safe and sound out there in DCland.

Posted by: Aloha | June 4, 2008 5:03 PM | Report abuse

The trees here look wistful. Maybe dreaming of a summer past or a summer to be, but they just don't seem to be able to focus on the present.

Dang slackers.

Posted by: martooni | June 4, 2008 5:10 PM | Report abuse

This is creepy. I went to the Hillary blog to enter my thoughts, as requested. My thoughts are that she should aim for Senate Majority leader. However, my post was not posted!!! Only happy pro-"stay the course" messages are being posted. WEIRD!!

Posted by: fashionistamomDC | June 4, 2008 5:15 PM | Report abuse

No weird fashionistamomDC, a grave breach of the blogging social contract. Same thing happened to me this morning. When supportive, but not worshipful, posts don't make the cut I think it's pretty clear what kind of press secretary she'd be looking for.

Posted by: frostbitten | June 4, 2008 5:25 PM | Report abuse

SCC- I meant "not weird" not "no weird."

Posted by: frostbitten | June 4, 2008 5:26 PM | Report abuse

Reposting from the last boodle:

DbG, I'm sorry you're feeling so angry at the moment.

"I dislike that a person who had contenders for his legislature seat disallowed through technicalities..:

I read it differently. One, that woman had previously held the state senate seat but vacated it to run for U.S. Senator. This allowed Obama to run for her old seat. When she came in third in the primaries, she wanted to rerun for her old seat.

Now, I don't know all about how Illinois holds it primaries, but I find it difficult to believe that state senate primaries come after U.S senate primaries. Thus, the support for her to resume running for her old seat would have curtailed any real contest for her old seat.

I would have challenged her right to run for the old seat on the basis she hadn't done her paperwork either. Would you really have just gone, "oh, she took a gamble lost, she can go back to running for her old seat?"

When you had already done all the legwork and paperwork to run for that seat? I find that about as insulting or equally more insulting than all the cries for Hillary to drop out of the race before it's been done.

Details are important, and if you don't like Obama based on this detail, get it right at least.

It's the difference between being outdone by another job interview candidate, and having a job offer rescinded because the quitting employee changed her mind and called in favors outside the department to interfere with the hiring process.

I wouldn't take that last one lying down, and neither would anybody who applied to a job in good faith it was vacant and available.

Posted by: Wilbrod | June 4, 2008 5:27 PM | Report abuse

That said, if she in fact had the foresight to have gathered her signatures for the state senate seat just in case, there wouldn't have been a problem, the primaries would have already been held. Except, you know, it's kind of weird to run for 2 seats at the same time? Maybe there's a technical law that says you can't do that?

Posted by: Wilbrod | June 4, 2008 5:39 PM | Report abuse

I've got bad news for you about The Far Side, Pogo, and Li'l Abner.

Posted by: yellojkt | June 4, 2008 4:09 PM

No problem. I never did like Pogo nor Li'l Abner. I do like The Far Side, but my memory is sufficiently trashed that I don't remember reading them before. I get to have new experiences almost daily.

My daughter is teaching in Sterling this summer as part of a college course, a Practicum (sp?) they call it. She just called from there with her storm adventures. The schools held everyone for about an hour until storm abated, had to drive around downed trees and detour through the neighborhood to get "home". Drove past one house with a large tree embedded into it.

She also told me about her Twilight Zone moment on Monday when she was talking to the kids about 9/11. She stopped mid-way into the discussion when she realized she was standing in the same classroom she was in when it happened.


Posted by: DLD | June 4, 2008 6:39 PM | Report abuse

Wow... DLD... that is something about your daughter's sense of real deja vu.

New tornado warning for Seven Corners. More bad stuff moving through. You all be careful, ya hear.

Posted by: TBG | June 4, 2008 6:48 PM | Report abuse

Popping in to report we made it through that storm, and are bracing for the next.

The photo on the WaPo home of OEOB just cracks me up. It's hard to tell if it's Cheney's Office or the Munster Home. (Now that I think about it, besides the highbrow humor of the Munsters, how different are those two places?)
Stay safe everyone.

Posted by: LostInThought | June 4, 2008 6:52 PM | Report abuse

Power was out most of the afternoon, came on just in time for me to zoom in here, look around and zoom out.

Have a nice evening, all.


Posted by: bc | June 4, 2008 6:58 PM | Report abuse

Got family down in Fredericksburg which is now under tornado warning. Wow, when you guys have storms out there, you don't mess around! My first experience with huge downpours and lightening hitting a tree was in VA. Loudest thing I'd ever experienced. The sudden and fierce storm I experienced in VA had me much more frightened than any hurricane I've ever experienced out here.

Posted by: Aloha | June 4, 2008 6:58 PM | Report abuse

More? TBG, say it ai't so? Still have electricity but the sump pump drain is silting in in again!

Everyone is arriving late from work, threading ways home through downed trees and dark intersections.

'Tis teen boy central here.

Posted by: College Parkian | June 4, 2008 7:01 PM | Report abuse

LiT - I'm glad you are okay!

I've been out here two decades and I am still not used to the thunder and lightening. I will sometimes sit at our back window and gaze at the thunderstorms with awe. And occasionally shock.

Posted by: RD Padouk | June 4, 2008 7:06 PM | Report abuse

CP - redundant sump-pumps my good lady! Or at the very least, teach some of those young lads how to handle a bucket.

Let's hope the weather gods are kind.

Posted by: RD Padouk | June 4, 2008 7:21 PM | Report abuse

RD... you ever watch one of those storms with copper wire coiled around your upraised arms while standing in a mud puddle under a very tall tree?

You wanna talk about "shock and awe"... (not that I've ever done such a stoopid thing or would recommend it to anyone else... just sayin')

Posted by: martooni | June 4, 2008 7:24 PM | Report abuse

Ha! Didn't know that OEOB was located at 1313 Mockingbird Lane.

A scary day in the Boodle, too, when I consider that JA had lunch with the Four Horsemen of the

Gotta run.


Posted by: bc | June 4, 2008 7:31 PM | Report abuse

btw... has anyone else running Firefox found that the A-Blog (and WaPo in general) crashes it? The 'puter stays up, but Firefox freezes and I have to manually kill it before business gets back to usual.

I'm thinking it's one of those dumb "Flash" ads and a case of my 'puter doesn't have enough memory to handle it, but then my 'puter is handling the rest of the web with no problems.

Posted by: martooni | June 4, 2008 7:37 PM | Report abuse

Wilbrod, sounds as if you haven't done extensive research in this area either, so please don't condescend to me. I was thinking today of all the posting you did re: legislation she'd voted for (that you disagreed with) and how little you'd said about legislation he'd voted for that you agreed with. Point to a slim track record? You also noted that you wouldn't vote for her if for no other reason than you couldn't stand another term of reading about Bill?

I wasn't pacing the halls, angry and screaming. It's unfortunate I don't know an emoticon for "this is a serious question or concern," because I would have used it. I wasn't being saracastic or caustic, I just didn't understand RD's remark.

I'm frustrated because Senator Clinton received more votes and still isn't accorded respect by many people (i.e., get out the race, concede, she's angling for the VP--who knows that or is it a detail we should confirm?) If you look at just WaPo headlines, it looks as if she told supporters to go out and promote the idea instead of agreeing they could do it when they asked her. It's not the first time it's happened and even Cizilla today noted that she hadn't had the press support her opponent did.

The point's been made on a few blogs here in the past day, but Obama supporters trashing her won't help get our (my) votes. A while ago, here, someone wrote that she would vote for Obama or nobody--she was tired of voting for the lesser evil. Right now, I'm feeling something like that--as are many others.

VP? I think she's got better things to do than that, but many of those people who voted for her do not want to see her disregarded. If Obama doesn't treat her with the respect she deserves, he's not a conciliator. If his supporters don't, that's not good either. I don't know that he can stand to lose those potential voters. Remember how it felt when Bush "beat" Gore (I use the term loosely) and disregarded everyone who voted for Gore? Think about it.

Posted by: dbG | June 4, 2008 7:40 PM | Report abuse

martooni - No...but I did once drive a large metal pole into the backyard sandbox during a lightening storm hoping to make glass.

Alas, it didn't work.

Posted by: RD Padouk | June 4, 2008 7:42 PM | Report abuse

RD -- I have two sump sumps! Tis hard, however, being midway on a hill. The lads have helped before but at this point, they are more trouble than help. They were great two years ago for the My-Basement-as-Earthworm-Migration-Destination (I kid you not!). I need to call the plumber to snake this set-up.

Glad that most seem safe. We, cross fingers, had drama but no trauma. Last year, however, College Park and University Park had more than fifteen downed trees with lots of other roof and structure hits.

And, in 2001, we were the site of the hideous tornado that killed two sisters as they drove away from their father's work, at his behest, to "safety." Here is the wiki-clip:

September 2001 Tornado

On September 24, 2001, a violent, multiple-vortex F3 tornado roared through the area. This storm moved at peak intensity through the University of Maryland, College Park campus, and then moved parallel to I-95 through the Laurel area, where F3 damage was also noted. The damage path from this storm was measured at 17.5 miles in length, and this tornado caused 2 deaths and 55 injuries, along with $101 million in property damage. The two deaths were sisters who died when their car was picked up and hurled over a building before being slammed to the ground; both young women were UMCP students.

This tornado was part of the Maryland, Virginia, and Washington, D.C., tornado outbreak of 2001, one of the most dramatic recent tornado events to directly affect the Baltimore-Washington metropolitan area.

The first tornado of the outbreak was also the strongest - an F4 (see Fujita scale) tornado that left a 10-mile-long damage path through rural Culpeper and Fauquier Counties in Virginia. Weak (F1) tornadoes east of Warrenton, and just west of Dulles International Airport soon followed.

A second supercell to the southeast spawned the family of tornadoes that moved through Washington. A first tornado (F0) was confirmed in the Quantico and Prince William Forest Park areas; this was soon followed by an F1 tornado that left a 15-mile-long path parallel to I-95 and I-395 through Franconia, western Alexandria and Arlington. This tornado dissipated near the west end of the Mall in Washington, D.C., and was followed by many reports of funnel clouds. This same storm produced the F3 tornado that roared through College Park.

Posted by: College parkian | June 4, 2008 7:45 PM | Report abuse

That would have been cool, RD.

You should be more careful about giving ideas like that to goofballs like me, though. I have a sandbox and some spare 1/2" copper pipe that might do the trick.

I wonder what would happen if I attached a kite to it with piano wire and guitar strings?

Posted by: martooni | June 4, 2008 7:49 PM | Report abuse

Tornado spotted on the ground a mile north of Fredericksburg across the river, headed this way at 50 mph. Expected to be in La Plata/Waldorf area in about 10 minutes.

Rob Ryan reports its crossing the river now, near Indian Head.

If I go quiet, you'll know why. I'm expecting power loss at minimum. (Power already down across the street, two trees already down on our block, one harmless, one hit a house.

Posted by: Curmudgeon | June 4, 2008 7:51 PM | Report abuse

Oh, I remember that CP.. such a sad story.

Posted by: TBG | June 4, 2008 7:51 PM | Report abuse

Martooni, yes, I've had a lot of blog crashes and freezes, and I'm using Firefox; never thought that was the cause. About every 20 minutes I have to turn my modem off and then back on. Thought it was Verizon.

Posted by: Curmudgeon | June 4, 2008 7:55 PM | Report abuse

Stay safe everyone.

Posted by: dmd | June 4, 2008 7:57 PM | Report abuse

I understand CP. There are just some locations like that. Hope it all holds together.

I remember that storm well and the horrible fate of those two young women. It seemed so cruelly arbitrary. Because, of course, it was.

Posted by: RD Padouk | June 4, 2008 7:59 PM | Report abuse

I've been using Firefox for this site for at least 2 years and it has never worked any way but well. More likely to be a provider or RAM problem than a Firefox malfunction, methinks.

Posted by: Grimm | June 4, 2008 8:03 PM | Report abuse

wow! crazy weather here in arlington! the big "tornado" scare went by with green skies and sideways rain, then it cleared up and the sun came out, then it started raining again, then it was POUNDING RAIN, then the rain abruptly stopped and the sun came out again, then another downpour! sheesh! and that was during my drive home! traffic is at a standstill as there are lots of traffic lites out in arlington - saw a couple of big downed trees. got home afraid of no electricity and huzzah! i have electricity. no electricity = no dinner - electric stove and electric microwave in a highrise condo - not allowed to bbq on the balcony...

Posted by: mo | June 4, 2008 8:03 PM | Report abuse

Not that I want to play "my tornado was worse than yours", but the ones that whacked our area back in '85 were even more devastating than I remember -- and witnessed much of it firsthand...

From Wiki:

"On May 31, 1985, the city of Niles was struck by an F5 tornado that had its origins just West of Newton Falls, where it destroyed much of that town. The tornado then moved through Lordstown and Warren, before wreaking havoc on Niles, where it flattened a skating rink and shopping mall. The tornado also leveled dozens of houses, ripped through the city's historic Union Cemetery, injured many people, and took several lives. As it progressed toward Pennsylvania, the tornado never left the ground. In the Niles area alone, nine people were killed, and 250 were injured. Nearly 70 homes were leveled and another 65 to 70 were severely damaged. In the Mahoning and Shenango valleys a total of 25 people died and 500 people were injured, and there was $140 million in property damage."

I happened to be sitting in a bar when this hit (imagine that) listening to an AM radio station reporting these things hitting everywhere I had family and friends and everywhere between the bar and my home at the time.

Needless to say, the evening of planned festivities was cut very short.

I'm just thankful none of my family or friends were hurt, though a few lost their homes.

Posted by: martooni | June 4, 2008 8:05 PM | Report abuse

Coming out of self-imposed snit-filled and umbragous exile to *sincerely* hope and wish all my DC-area imaginary friends are in safe harbour tonight.

Posted by: Yoki | June 4, 2008 8:06 PM | Report abuse

Martooni - I got the idea from a movie called "Sweet Home Alabama." I don't know if it is even possible, but the glass sculptures shown in the movie looked so cool. And I had these metal fence posts just sitting around.

Posted by: RD Padouk | June 4, 2008 8:07 PM | Report abuse

This is my last word on the subject, but thank you for making me go and look it up, Wilbrod.

The Senate race was in an off-year. Obama had raised funds and opened an office, and when the former incumbent filed to run for the legislature, he challenged the validity of the signatures on the petitions supporting her candidacy. He also contested the petitions submitted by all other Democratic opponents (3 others). The authorities ruled all four opponents ineligible, leaving him the only Democratic candidate. The incumbent was popular, has legislative experience and is a woman. Popular belief was there was no way he could beat her in a popular vote.

Signatures were ruled ineligible for things like the petition-collector being unofficial, a woman having changed her name in the meantime because she got married, and having printed when they should have signed.

You know what, I know this happens. Just don't tell me this man isn't a politician. This is nothing if not old-style politics, no *change* in sight.

Posted by: dbG | June 4, 2008 8:10 PM | Report abuse

Yoki - good to see you back! Don't scare me like that again, young lady. Otherwise I was going to have to send out a 'copter to fetch you, and you know what the weather is like.

Posted by: RD Padouk | June 4, 2008 8:10 PM | Report abuse

pouring and thundering again in arlington (for those outside of the beltway it's less than 6 miles outside of dc)
we are definetly going to have lots of flooding!

Posted by: mo | June 4, 2008 8:11 PM | Report abuse

Reporting live from Vienna, Fairfax County. Earlier winds and rain took down trees all over the area. Took out the power, too. Now rain pouring down again, but no wind to speak of. We have emergency generator as back up, but Va Power reporting about 200,000 without power and Pepco (DC/MD) about 100,000. Big problem during rush hour with the winds/rain/traffic lights out. So, if you don't hear from your fav boodler tonight, it may just be that they are in the dark.

Posted by: Vintagelady | June 4, 2008 8:12 PM | Report abuse

Glad you're safe and sound Mo, and with electricity too. Hope the storm has passed. Will there be more for you guys tomorrow?

Posted by: Aloha | June 4, 2008 8:15 PM | Report abuse

dbG-you know I've been an Obama supporter for a long while now, but I wanted Hillary to run and would have voted for her over all the other dems running so we are probably going to disagree at least a bit (I hope cordially). I just have one quibble with your 7:40 and that is that "she got more votes." That should have an asterisk that says "if you don't count all the caucus states."

Besides people feeling like their votes weren't counted, which I'll concede as fact for the sake of argument, the truly sad thing is that she could have won the caucus states too. To me this is not just a sign that her campaign was mismanaged, but that she missed a major sea change among the electorate. Perhaps it's a backlash against the self proclaimed remarkableness of the baby boomers, or dissatisfaction with politics as usual, but I think it has more to do with innovation and expectations. Here's a quote from a commentary I read in Education Week, which had nothing to do with the presidential race but stunned me in its application.-

"Schools (read that old school campaigns like Hillary's) have done what virtually every organization does when implementing an innovation (blogging, online fund raising, GOTV efforts, attempting to elect a non-male or non-white): Its natural instinct is to cram the innovation into its existing operating model to sustain what it already does. This is perfectly predictable, perfectly logical--and perfectly wrong.

The way to implement an innovation so that it will transform an organization is to implement it disruptively--not by using it to compete against the existing paradigm and serve existing customers, but to target those not being served or not buying what's served--people we call non-consumers. That way, all the new approach has to do is be better than the alternative--which is nothing at all."

The old organization served me pretty well, and I would have been happy with Hillary. However, the old organization ignored the non-consumers and I am not so risk averse that I think embracing them will leave me out. I hope Hillary will continue to serve in the senate for a very long time. She does great work, and I'm sure will do much more, but if she cares as much for the future of this country as she claims she will cast her support to Obama quickly. She may very well be the better candidate, and make a better president. However, I daresay the better person has lost more than once before. We need someone who is good enough, and we are in grave danger of losing that.

You can read all of
How "Disruptive Innovation" Will Change the Way We Learn

Posted by: frostbitten | June 4, 2008 8:15 PM | Report abuse

VL - wow, thanks for that update. I'm right by GMU so you know that weather is going to come visit me as well. It's good you have that emergency generator. I have a marine battery for my back-up sump-pump which has saved my basement more than once.

Stay safe!

Now, where *did* I put those candles.

Posted by: RD Padouk | June 4, 2008 8:20 PM | Report abuse

Yoki, giggling at this "snit-filled and umbragous exile" because you are about the only person I know who could pull that off with such panache!

Those weather stories are frightening - I am a wimp about thunder storms - tornadoes are quite rare here but it seems in the last few years we get more warnings. Hot steamy weather is supposed to be here for the weekend and will start the summer late day storm season.

Posted by: dmdsnit-filled and umbragous exile | June 4, 2008 8:25 PM | Report abuse

Cordial indeed, frosti! (I really need to get to bed. 1:30 comes early). I believe if you count the people who actually caucused for Obama, Clinton still comes ahead. Who knows what the non-caucusing people would have done? I could be wrong. :-)

Thanks for the citation to the interesting article!

I would be very happy to see her remain in the Senate, go to the SC or serve in an official capacity which recognizes her talent.

Good night, all!

Posted by: dbG | June 4, 2008 8:28 PM | Report abuse

Clinton to Suspend Campaign

THE TRAIL | Senator will suspend her campaign on Friday, senior campaign officials have confirmed.

Posted by: TBG | June 4, 2008 8:31 PM | Report abuse

RDP, when we lived in Springfield, sump pumps became a necessity! Our basement is daylight here, so all is dry, sometimes a little leak under the garage door, that's about it.

The thing is, nobody's even giving a guessitmate as how long the electricity will be off. It happens fairly regularly around here, and with three laptops in our household (and the coffee pot!) the generator is a big help, to say nothing of refrig, etc.

Glad you have power. Our neighborhood had power saws humming, now it's dark, so I guess they are in for the night. All the generators make a racket, tho.

Posted by: VintageLady | June 4, 2008 8:34 PM | Report abuse

Expert Alert: The Media's Role in Hillary Clinton's Lost Bid for President

Erika Falk, a communications expert at The Johns Hopkins University, after analyzing the first month of campaign coverage in the nation's top six circulating newspapers (USA Today and the Wall Street Journal, New York Times, Los Angeles Times, Denver Post and Chicago Tribune, according to the Audit Bureau of Circulation), found that Clinton:

• Was more likely than Obama to have her legislative title dropped and be referred to by her first name or by her gender.
• Was mentioned in just 65 percent of the number of articles as Obama: Eighty-four stories mentioned Obama whereas just 55 mentioned Clinton. Only nine stories mentioned Clinton without mentioning Obama whereas 38 stories mentioned Obama without mentioning Clinton.
• Had fewer paragraphs written about her than Obama did - 631 paragraphs were written about her compared to 934 about Obama.
• Was less likely to see her name in a headline than Obama: Fifty-nine stories had headlines containing "Obama" compared to just 36 with "Clinton."

Posted by: Loomis | June 4, 2008 8:34 PM | Report abuse

i hate the cliche "beating a dead horse" b/c it's such a violent visual... anyone have a better cliche?

Posted by: mo | June 4, 2008 8:39 PM | Report abuse

You know, the boodle is a powerful thing for those of us who care about it. When we are criticized, or argued with, or simply feel ignored it can really sting. The urge to run away and hide can be overwhelming.

Which is why I try, and doubtless often fail, to keep my comments in bounds. And why I get so crabby when others clearly do not even try.

I know I've said this before, but what we write here doesn't set policy or influence world opinion.

We do it for fun. Or to learn. Or simply to reach out to others in the ether. These are the things that really make the 'boodle different from the gazillion other sites out there.

Posted by: RD Padouk | June 4, 2008 8:39 PM | Report abuse

mo - I favor "waiting in the theater for the real ending of the Holy Grail to start."

But that might be too obscure.

Posted by: RD Padouk | June 4, 2008 8:44 PM | Report abuse

DbG, many baby-boomer women I talk to are very pro-Hillary, and their main comment about Obama is he needs more seasoning. They want to see a woman in the White House before they die. I look at it as, "would you vote for Connie Rice for that reason?" There are many accomplished female politicans out there. There are quite a few female governors out there, more female senators and so on than just the junior senator from New York State. She does not stand for all women, and especially not me.

Since the junior senator from New York State has voted Republican-lite in the last 8 years, I haven't found many bills she voted on that I actually agreed with, DbG. I'm not from NY state, so I have no interest in NY pork. Some of the bills she voted on that I disagreed with, are the very bills that will define the Bush Administration's place in infamy forever. Nitpicking? Not to me.

On the other hand, I can point to some votes that McCain did in all his career that I do agree with, as well as many I don't agree with, likewise for Obama. Could you give me an example of some (failed or successful) bills she voted on that you think I would agree with? I suppose it's awfully unpatriotic of me to say that her anti-flag burning amendment proposal was bull, but that's the truth.

I learned Hillary Clinton in the 1990's was responsible for swaying the vote to pass Welfare-to-work, a bill that hurt thousands of women and children in poverty. This was much wanted by the Republicans, of course. And her old-time friend, Marian Wright Edelman, a wonderful advocate for children who spoke at my college, was violently against it.

She is quite a character, and admittedly extremely liberal. She was also MLK's lawyer. Here's what she has to say about this election-- don't depend on leaders to fix your problems. You must work on them yourselves. Demand better.

I agree that Obama and Clinton will have some work to do in healing the situation. But how much of the rancor is about Obama winning? I think it's all to do with Clinton losing. I'm sure Edwards would be burned in effigy right now if he had dared win over Hillary.

Posted by: Wilbrod | June 4, 2008 8:45 PM | Report abuse

What RD said.

Posted by: TBG | June 4, 2008 8:45 PM | Report abuse

Presumptive last post for me, because the thunder bumper above make me think that power is not assured.

What RD said. I think EM Forster's motto works for me, about being here.

Only connect.

Take care all boodlers, known and unknown. Good night. Here tis the pome that speaks of high summer, which is fast upon us.

Middle English

Svmer is icumen in,
Lhude sing cuccu!
Groweþ sed and bloweþ med
And springþ þe wde nu,
Sing cuccu!

Awe bleteþ after lomb,
Lhouþ after calue cu.
Bulluc sterteþ, bucke uerteþ,
Murie sing cuccu!

Cuccu, cuccu, wel singes þu, cuccu;
Ne swik þu nauer nu.


Sing cuccu nu. Sing cuccu.
Sing cuccu. Sing cuccu nu!

Modern English translation

Summer has come in,
Loudly sing, Cuckoo!
The seed grows and the meadow blooms
And the wood springs anew,
Sing, Cuckoo!

The ewe bleats after the lamb,
The cow lows after the calf.
The bullock stirs, the buck-goat turns,
Merrily sing, Cuckoo!

Cuckoo, cuckoo, well you sing, cuckoo;
Don't you ever stop now,
Sing cuckoo now. Sing, Cuckoo.
Sing Cuckoo. Sing cuckoo now!

Instead of wiki-ing this: Go to the British Library page.

Good night, sweet boodlers and may angels attend thee.

Posted by: College Parkian | June 4, 2008 8:55 PM | Report abuse

Confirmed sighting of a twister on the ground in Bel Alton about 12 miles south of here, headed toward Mechanicsville and then Calvert County. It has now passed to the east of us, so we're past the danger. *&^%$ modem signal keeps crapping out and resetting, though. Some pretty bodacious lightning here, had one big strike 6/10 of a mile west of here near the mall.

Was trying to watch the Peter, Paul and Mary thing on PBS. Ok, there's the green light, hitting submit now...

Posted by: Curmudgeon | June 4, 2008 9:01 PM | Report abuse

Confirmed sighting of a twister on the ground in Bel Alton about 12 miles south of here, headed toward Mechanicsville and then Calvert County. It has now passed to the east of us, so we're past the danger. *&^%$ modem signal keeps crapping out and resetting, though. Some pretty bodacious lightning here, had one big strike 6/10 of a mile west of here near the mall.

Was trying to watch the Peter, Paul and Mary thing on PBS. Ok, there's the green light, hitting submit now...

Posted by: Curmudgeon | June 4, 2008 9:02 PM | Report abuse

"snit-filled and umbrageous exile"
I had one of those!:-b In fact, when the limerick appeared today I immediately checked to see if *Tim was around so's to make a joke about it. Then I looked for Son of Carl. Where are those two?
I'm glad you DC denizens are ok. Those storms looked nasty on the radar.

Posted by: Boko999 | June 4, 2008 9:06 PM | Report abuse

Beating a live Loomis?

Sorry for the double post.

Posted by: Curmudgeon | June 4, 2008 9:09 PM | Report abuse

Thanks, CP. Martooni and RD have said it better today than I could.

The Presidency, while the most important office, is only one office.

As for this coming season, true change will come from voting the right people into Congress and your local and state representatives, as well as community activism.

For instance, if you want universal healthcare, you need to vote in the people who will write and vote for such a bill. It does no good to have a president highly willing to sign such a bill if Congress won't pass such a bill.

Likewise, if your local area won't provide the basic services it's supposed to do by law, no national laws will make things better until you vote the corrupt wastrels out. Accountability.

Learn the sunshine laws of your state; learn what bills the morons in your state senate are proposing.

This is the only way to be sure politics works FOR the voter, and that the people you elected in for something don't wind up doing other stuff that you never agreed to or knew about when you voted them in.

And yes, even the presidency. We've learned way too much from the last 8 years to ever believe those two words: "trust me."

Posted by: Wilbrod | June 4, 2008 9:13 PM | Report abuse

I'm watching the storm on the I95/495 College Park traffic cam. Why don't one of you slip on a slicker, nip on down there and gimme a wave?

Posted by: Boko999 | June 4, 2008 9:20 PM | Report abuse

> I immediately checked to see if *Tim was around so's to make a joke about it. Then I looked for Son of Carl. Where are those two?

ScienceTim is off in LaLaLand trying to pitch a new spacecraft instrument concept to the good folks at JPL.

No idea where the other Tims have got to.

Posted by: ScienceSpouse | June 4, 2008 9:25 PM | Report abuse

hey ScienceSpouse!

Posted by: TBG | June 4, 2008 9:29 PM | Report abuse

Thank you, RDPadouk. Word.

Posted by: Yoki | June 4, 2008 9:31 PM | Report abuse

I come here only looking for SpouseTim; sometimes I think he likes hanging out with you Boodlers more than with me...

Posted by: ScienceSpouse | June 4, 2008 9:32 PM | Report abuse

I third (or fourth or whatever) what RD said.

The only thing I'd add (and this is just my opinion [and a long-winded one, at that]) is that not a darn one of us knows Everything (with a capital "E" in the A.A. Milne style of emphasis), though some may act like it. Especially after they've discovered the power and ease of cutting and pasting other people's work, then sitting back and acting smug about it as if it was *their* Original Thought or *their* Witty Retort or Comeback or Whatever.

I have to admit I'm guilty of the occasional cut-and-paste job, but I do try to offer up some original thought to go with it (as do most Boodlers... not that my Original Thoughts are necessarily of any value, but they *are* mine [if sometimes twisted and based on an alternative conception of reality, or possibly planted in my brain by subversive aliens who want the world to rock to Iggy Pop's "Lust for Life"]).

And why do all of my posts include embedded or tacked on side thoughts in parentheses? Or even nested parentheses?

Am I sick because I overuse ellipses? Am I a danger to society for using -- dare I say it -- the "double dash" instead of an "em" dash and have the nerve -- and here I incriminate myself even further -- to insert a space not just in front, but *after* each one?

I suppose there's a special place in Hell for people like me.

I got the cooler and extension cord. Who's bringing the fan?

Posted by: martooni | June 4, 2008 9:39 PM | Report abuse

Hi ScienceSpouse, thanks. Here's hoping he's sucessful and is back soon.

Speaking of spouses isn't Mr. bitten supposed to be home today, Frosti?

Posted by: Boko999 | June 4, 2008 9:39 PM | Report abuse

I do believe my place in grammar/punctuation hell is reserved. Knew I should have read the fine print when I was signing that document offering a lifetime of wit and charm (those who have met me will understand this better).

Hey ScienceSpouse!

Posted by: dmd | June 4, 2008 9:45 PM | Report abuse

I haven't met you, dmd, but I'm sure you got a good deal on the wit and charm.

Just remember to bring the fan. And ice cubes.

Posted by: martooni | June 4, 2008 10:02 PM | Report abuse

ScienceSpouse, I'm sure that's not true (that *Tim likes us better)! Stick around, though, we'd love to have you join us.

Hope everyone in the DC area is ok. I loved thunderstorms as a kid, but ever since going through some wild storms and close lightning strikes when we lived near the Blue Ridge, I'm really scared by them. Especially after living in the cloudy but mostly thunder-free Pacific NW.

Posted by: mostlylurking | June 4, 2008 10:03 PM | Report abuse

Me too mostly, storms scare the bujebbers out of me.I have gotten better,but when I am alone,it gets to me pretty bad.

Posted by: greenwithenvy | June 4, 2008 10:10 PM | Report abuse

Sincerely hope all is well with everyone in the DC metro area. Fierce weather. I have seen green clouds before too. Scary.

We have a high of 60 tomorrow followed by a very warm and rainy (and of course, windy) weekend. Good times...oh yeah.

Martooni...enjoyed your 9:39 post. It is very hard not to occasionally cut and paste. But I try to give credit where credit is due.

On another note I think HRC is hurting herself by not conceding. How bout spending some time being the Senator from NY?

Posted by: eidrib | June 4, 2008 10:12 PM | Report abuse

Who knew gnomic wind was long?
It sounds hot and muggy down there Martooni. We're supposed to be getting your weather tomorrow and I'm not looking forward to it. As true north strong and freak Canukistani I prefer cool.

Posted by: Boko999 | June 4, 2008 10:16 PM | Report abuse

I think you're making boodling into beatnik poetry, Martooni. I wonder how your stuff sounds when read aloud by JAWS.

Also, you could just be parenthecial in your thoughts, due to years of programming computer code and children.

Posted by: Wilbrod | June 4, 2008 10:17 PM | Report abuse

I know it is very important, but I'm just TIRED of hearing, seeing, reading, writing, etc. Clinton and Obama.

Joel, PLEASE give us some fluff to boodle about.


I read the EdWeek commentary earlier. I agree. My job is to be the disruptor, but I try to be the persuader instead. I meet with teachers and work with them in and out of the classroom to get more technology into their pedagogy. I blow up when a teacher tells me he needs no more technology because his classroom newsletter already goes home via email.

We had our share of storms last night. I slept through the whole thing, but my kids told me about it at breakfast. Then I had to dodge trees in the road as I drove them to school.

Only after I got to my own school did I realize...It is the end of an era for my family. The kids watched the storm through their windows without waking up mommy.

I hope everyone up there is ok.

Good night.

Posted by: a bea c | June 4, 2008 10:20 PM | Report abuse

Well, I have met dmd three or four times, and I can tell you that if she (which I dispute, heatedly) lacks any sort of writing skill, she more than makes up for it in wit and intelligence and humour and kindness. She is an amazing human (a real mensch) and a role model for me. I constantly ask myself, "WWDMDD?" and the answer is always a better choice than what YWD.

Posted by: Yoki | June 4, 2008 10:30 PM | Report abuse

Am I fluffy enough, a bea c?

I've been seeing this little bit of fluff-a golden retriever- mostly for training and romping.

The best thing about today was smelling two glorious horses in a trailer right in the shopping center parking lot after doing some shopping.

I tried a little horse-whispering as part of my cross-species communication project, but Wilbrod told me to cut out the whining, and do some obedience instead.

So we did, then went home for a nice dinner before it began raining.

Posted by: Wilbrodog | June 4, 2008 10:34 PM | Report abuse

Well for God's sakes just don't wonder what would DMD do when you are cooking!

Off to bed - stay safe everyone.

Posted by: dmd | June 4, 2008 10:36 PM | Report abuse

So, re-reading my post I see it made no sense.

Technology in the classroom allows for self-paced learning, for differentiation and customization. Showing a PowerPoint uses technology, but doesn't make teaching less standardized. Having kids create movies and podcasts, write online journals, view videos and images, and work through simulations does differentiate. But, as the folks at EdWeek point out, we've poured all this money into computers and very little into training teachers on how to use them. That's what I do.

I think I'll change my name to Sisyphus.

Posted by: a bea c | June 4, 2008 10:38 PM | Report abuse

Frosti... thanks for the EdWeek clip. I agree it pertains to businesses other than education. I'd like to figure out how to share it with my bosses without sounding too, well.... critical.

Have fun house hunting with Mr F!

Posted by: TBG | June 4, 2008 10:38 PM | Report abuse

Congratulations Red Wings.
However, this is the kind of behaviour that calls hockey into disrepute:

Posted by: Boko999 | June 4, 2008 10:43 PM | Report abuse

I'm sure you're plenty fluffy, Wilbrodog.

I just hope you have only one head, not three like Hagrid's Fluffy.

Hmmm...If you had three, I'm sure those horses wouldn't have let you sniff them.

Posted by: a bea c | June 4, 2008 10:43 PM | Report abuse

Good luck with the crazy weather in DC and around.
Here are some flowers to soothe CP's ribs and yoki's and dbg's sensibilities. There is a puppy pic or 2 as well.
The bear sh1t pic isn't for you gals, just an aside joke. The little twerp just galls me, destroying my stuff like that.

I can't keep up with the mini putt duties and all. And I'm cooking pasta (with the help of 4 or 5 good souls) for 330 guests the weekend of June 14. What was I thinking?
Most pictures are from April, some taken in May. Fancyb tulips, Peonies and other late spring flowers to follow. The tree peonies are absolutely GORGEOUS right now, the loved the heavy snow cover we got.
You'll have to excuse the bilingual tags, I have no time for separate comments (I share with the family too you know...)

Posted by: shrieking denizen | June 4, 2008 10:45 PM | Report abuse

Well, his head IS big enough for three dogs, a bea c... but we don't like to mention it.

Posted by: Wilbrod | June 4, 2008 10:46 PM | Report abuse

Lovely pictures, Shrieking, and thanks for the bilinguality.

Posted by: Wilbrod | June 4, 2008 10:52 PM | Report abuse

Boko-You have a good memory, Mr. F is headed this way. He is in Chattanooga tonight enroute to St. Paul. We will meet there on Friday for the sweet urban loft hunt.

I am off to Minneapolis tomorrow where I will get to chat with Mayor Rybak re: youth violence (as victims as well as perpetrators). The pipeline from res to city and back again means our kids who need the most care are like water. Just when you think you have a plan in place they slip through your fingers-for us back to the Twin Cities, for the cities back to the res. I will now most unbecomingly mention that this gives me a Bacon number of 2 to Obama. Rybak is a co-chair of his MN campaign.

a bea c-I don't envy you. One of my favorite professors likes to say "Teachers will adopt any innovation and embrace any new method to help kids learn, as long as it doesn't take any time or effort."

Goodnight boodle. Perhaps Joel will give us some respite by posting a science kit tomorrow.

Posted by: frostbitten | June 4, 2008 10:52 PM | Report abuse

All DCboodlers are safe, yes?
Beware the butterfly!

CP, thanks for poem!
For you, a recipe for Irish Charlotte (goto image 5)

Posted by: DNA Girl | June 4, 2008 10:56 PM | Report abuse

Thanks Wilbrod and sorry for the typing in the previous post. It wasn't even up to my dismal standard.

firsttimeblogger, congrats on the octopi tribe's success!
*curtsying with a nice rond-de-jambe*

Posted by: shrieking denizen | June 4, 2008 10:57 PM | Report abuse

Will SciTim be around for Thursday's and Friday's media briefing at Pasadena's Jet Propulsion Lab re: Phoenix Mars Lander mission?

Better there than around D.C., given today's weather in your neck of the woods.

Posted by: Loomis | June 4, 2008 11:00 PM | Report abuse

I hope so. If Joel's short on sciency ideas, this is always worth a read.

Apparently those asexual animals are actually cross-phylum swingers.

And there's... Mars! Apparently there's naught as salty as a Mars Margarita.

Posted by: Wilbrod | June 4, 2008 11:00 PM | Report abuse

Shrieking... excellent pictures! Thanks for sharing. Those checkered flowers are something else... I've never seen anything like them.

The bear poop was pretty cool, actually. No need to apologize. It's all in the name of science, and all that.

G'night boodle.

Posted by: TBG | June 4, 2008 11:03 PM | Report abuse

Despite being one of the instigators and agitators, I too am tired of the Obama/Clinton haranguing. Most of the arguments on both sides presented here have been sound, rational, and usually calmly presented.

However, the die is cast and Hillary will not be at the top of the ballot. It's now the Geezer versus Big Ears.

How many more days until the election?

Posted by: yellojkt | June 4, 2008 11:10 PM | Report abuse


Posted by: firsttimeblogger | June 4, 2008 11:13 PM | Report abuse

LOOOMIS!! How could I have neglected to tell you??

I'll be in San Antonio in a few weeks for NECC (the geeky teacher shindig of choice). I'm co-presenting with my super-wonderful boss. Google Sketch-up for classroom projects.

I haven't been in San Antonio since my freshman year. I will have about 6 hours of unencumbered time on the day I'm leaving. I told my mom I'd spend that time going out to the St. Mary's campus, but my memories of my freshman year there aren't so fond I wouldn't be willing to see something better. Any suggestions?

Posted by: a bea c | June 4, 2008 11:21 PM | Report abuse

This victimization complex didn't happen by accident. It was quite deliberately cultivated by Clinton in her supporters, one part of her "win at any cost" campaign.

She cares nothing about the long term damage to the party she's leaving behind. She's completely unfit for public service.

One day we'll be able to elect a woman president. But not Clinton, not ever.

Posted by: Brix | June 4, 2008 11:25 PM | Report abuse


First Newfoundlander on an SC winning team.
First European to captain an SC winning team.
Bite it Don Cherry!

Posted by: Boko999 | June 4, 2008 11:25 PM | Report abuse

Shrieking, your really good pictures made me homesick for Virginia. Or Pennsylvania. Or Ohio. I've loved springtime in all those places.

California has some spring flowers, but they bloom in December and January. My main compensation for lack of "real" spring is that in three weeks I am going to have a fantastic crop of apricots. Usually just about 20, but this year --- lots!

Posted by: nellie | June 4, 2008 11:29 PM | Report abuse

boko... yeah... it's a wee bit warm and muggy here tonight, but nothing like it will be in August so I'm not complaining (though I will add this nonsensical and meaningless non-thought in parentheses just because I can).

Peace out, babies. I'm one pooped out gnome. Been sanding and sawing and painting and lacquering all day (in addition to Boodlin') and got a long day lined up for tomorrow that will be starting a bit earlier than I prefer.

Hope all you DC'ers and VA'ers and MD'ers and everyone else in that storm's path (or is that storms' paths?) managed to stay safe and unscathed. I'm sure we'll get our share of destructive weather soon enough here in Ohio. That time of year and all.

Peace out (again) and remember to do something silly tomorrow. Ya never know when your silly will be confiscated and you'll be stuck holding a large stinky bag of seriousness.

Posted by: martooni | June 4, 2008 11:30 PM | Report abuse

Thanks nellie.

"First Newfoundlander on an SC winning team."
Will they drink moosemilk out of the S-cup? eewwwwww That baby isn't worth winning anymore. That should please you boko.

Posted by: shrieking denizen | June 4, 2008 11:36 PM | Report abuse

A friend just sent me this link...

Super cool pictures. But, I see they have been there for about a week already, so maybe the Boodle's already seen them. Worth looking again...

Posted by: a bea c | June 4, 2008 11:37 PM | Report abuse

Great pictures, SD. I needed that. I'd be mad at that bear too (or totally afraid to come of the house again). Just as well the dogs didn't tangle with him.

Posted by: mostlylurking | June 4, 2008 11:40 PM | Report abuse

a bea c,
all that cheese!

Posted by: shrieking denizen | June 4, 2008 11:47 PM | Report abuse

SD, there is one that looks like a bowling ball, with all that swirly stuff going on...

Posted by: a bea c | June 4, 2008 11:57 PM | Report abuse

G'Night everyone
Night Martooni
Don't press my nerve SD :-b

Posted by: Boko999 | June 5, 2008 12:18 AM | Report abuse

a bea c,

You don't say what time of day your free hours fall in San Antonio since we might still be in bake-and-high-humidity mode, nor what part of town where you'll be staying, nor what you truly enjoy.

St. Mary's campus isn't too far from us.

But for starters, I'd recommend:

If you're a nature lover, Brackenridge Park, near downtown--very mature trees, shady cool, zoo is there, too.
Athletic? Floating a river is probably out of the question given your time constraints and who knows what the lack of rain situation will be like?
A 30-minute river barge cruise downtown should be very high on the list.
Tour of the Alamo downtown.
Texas barbecue or Tex-Mex and a margarita.
Strolling, shopping at historic La Villita downtown.
Historical walking tour of Mission Espada, south of downtown, although I know that you're not of that particular religious persuasion.
Theme parks: Sea World and Fiesta Texas.
Shopping (so-so), wine tasting in Fredericksburg (perhaps also Sisterdale), 90-minute drive in both directions.
Lover of American history? A tour of the LBJ ranch in Stonewall, very close to Fredericksburg.
Adventurous? A Cave with No Name, if it's open now.
Buckhorn Saloon for a cold brewski?

a bea c, I recall vividly the coffee picture you posted with the verdant landscape of your homeland. I wish I had something like that to offer.

Posted by: Loomis | June 5, 2008 12:59 AM | Report abuse

wow, sounds like some crazy weather. i'd love to see a tornado, but only from a safe distance.

i think i might be on a different wavelength because i'm just not emotionally attached to either hrc or obama. still generally like them both. obama has proven himself by running a great campaign but will have some big challenges in the general election of the old-fashioned kind (being too liberal, not experienced enough). i'm sure hrc will do the right thing going forward. i think she just got tired of being disrespected and overreacted at times.

i used to think that both should be on the ticket. i still think hrc should be considered. she got 18 million votes after all. but obama should take his time, let emotions die down, weigh all his options, and make his choice based on a very rational assessment of what's best for the ticket and the party.

Posted by: L.A. lurker | June 5, 2008 2:03 AM | Report abuse

mostlylurking -

Thanks for the invite, but I (mostly) give *Tim his space here. He doesn't often join my knitting group, either.

Loomis -

I believe his meeting is off-campus, and since SciTim has no direct involvement with Phoenix, I doubt he'll attend the press conference.

Posted by: ScienceSpouse | June 5, 2008 2:23 AM | Report abuse

Knitting SS?
Are you aware that there're several boodlers who love knitting? Sorry, they're positively deranged about knitting.
My granddad learned to knit in a POW camp during WWI. He was was captured just before he was to tranfer to the RAF though I don't know if would have been a fighter pilot.
Know anything about fighter aircraft?

Posted by: Boko999 | June 5, 2008 2:57 AM | Report abuse

"when the limerick appeared today I immediately checked to see if *Tim was around so's to make a joke about it."

Limerick? Limerick? What limerick? I'm at a scientifical meeting this week -- left on Monday morning, getting home on Friday morning. I'm only occasionally checking in -- they're running us like dogs, as some might say (not Wilbrod or Yoki, of course. They wouldn't say that). Just got back from a dinner of beer, copiously washed down with pizza. Or maybe it's the other way around. Fortunately, the only session on Thursday that strongly interests me is not until mid-morning. Meeting is over about noon, then I cool my heels for a few hours until the van comes to take me to the airport for my 3-legged and loooong trip home. Better get those tornadoes settled down before I get there.

Posted by: ScienceTim | June 5, 2008 3:27 AM | Report abuse

Hmmm. On further reading, I see that the ScienceSpouse has been here. I love you, dear! These people mean nothing to me! Nothing! A passing dalliance, like shaking hands. Nothing more than that.

Also, I'll be leaving on Thursday evening and, as my Spousey has said, I have no direct connection to Phoenix. I'm only privy to what I read in the papers, same as you. And, of course, the scuttlebutt. But I don't really believe there was a can of GlorxaCola. Just a silly hoax, I'm certain.

Posted by: ScienceTim | June 5, 2008 3:49 AM | Report abuse

Hi Tim. I hope your meetings went well.

While I've got you (and ScienceSpouse?) here I'd like to ask a question/favour.
I'm looking for info on a Canadian guitar player named Lenny Brough. I thought your MIL might have heard of him. That's why I asked for your her website but I decided not to be a pest.
I'm looking for a picture of Mr. Brough because I think I might have met him a couple of times in Ottawa back in the early '80s. Someone told me he was a good player though I was kind of skeptical as he looked like he was having a hard time keeping it together.
From the snippets of his playing I heard recently on radio he sounds fantastic so I'd like to hear more and I'd be interested to know if it was Brough I met.
I don't think he had any albums of his own but I thought your MIL might know who he might of backed up.
I'm only being a bother 'cause I can't find out much about him on the intertubes and I can't sleep and I thought, "Hey, what the hay."

Posted by: Boko999 | June 5, 2008 3:52 AM | Report abuse

Boko, the ScienceFather-in-Law was a B29 bombardier, but another couple of bombardiers, on just such aircraft, ended the war before he went overseas. The ScienceGrandpa was in Air-ROTC but didn't pass muster for pilot's training (something about an inability to cross and uncross his eyes fast enough).

And now, time for bed.

Posted by: ScienceTim | June 5, 2008 3:55 AM | Report abuse

Lenny Brough? I can ask...

Posted by: PlainTim | June 5, 2008 3:58 AM | Report abuse

I hope everyone in DC is well. Great pictures, SD.

I have realized, from the very beginning of the campaign up until now, the media more often than not have unflattering pictures of HRC. They (the media) don't do that to other candidates. Does that mean that women have more facial expressions than men? The pictures in our local newspapers are the same. I suppose that's because they bought most of their news from elsewhere. The English language bought most of their western news from AP.

Both Obama and Hillary are two very intelligent individuals and would have done the US good. I'd like to see both be president. Unfortunately, they run against each other.

Posted by: rainforest | June 5, 2008 4:16 AM | Report abuse

Thanks Tim, G'night.
Hi rainforest!
I don't see many newspapers but the internet news photos haven't struck me as too bad, although, I don't like the one that's up on HuffPo right now.

I'd better try to get some sleep or I'll be cranky later.
Have a good day, eh?

Posted by: Boko999 | June 5, 2008 4:30 AM | Report abuse

Of course, I missed most of the StormBoodling... Power blinked out @ work several times, which the PCs didn't appreciate. And once power was stable, I discovered the train wasn't running, so NukeSpouse was kind enough to drive to the end of the Metro and pick me up. OTOH, that gave us the excuse to stop at an AbFabFav local eatery. :-)

The NukeHaus was a little damp, but even the first line of severe storms spared us the worst. Don't expect the cats to agree with me, though; they decamped to the bunker when the thunderbooms started.

Very glad to hear the DC Boodlers are OK, with a special *wave* to ScienceSpouse and my thanks for sharing *Tim with us. :-)

Yoki, stick around, willya??? ;-)

*inching-closer-to-the-weekend-but-not-looking-forward-to-driving-to-work-for-various-reasons Grover waves* :-)

Posted by: Scottynuke | June 5, 2008 4:50 AM | Report abuse

'Morning, Boodle, Scotty.

Boko, no one here, repeat NO ONE, knows anything about fighter aircraft. De nada. Zilch. Zip. Why, except for pointy heads like SciTim, we are barely even aware that metal objects can leave the ground. I hope I've made that clear, and cleared up any confusion you may have on this matter. (If I sound a little testy about this, it's because yesterday I found a doily in the bunker freezer, wrapped around a half gallon of Breyer's All-Natural Mint Chocolate Chip. I mean, is nothing sacred?)

Yes, we all seem to have survived the storms, although there apparently was a man killed in Fairfax out near TBG, and three tornadoes, one 12 miles south of here and one in Tracey's Landing/Chesapeake Beach, where I used to live, that destroyed a restaurant.

Nothing to report from today's op-ed page, except that George Will says we deserve these gas prices because we won't drill in the ANWR.

Obama appears to have hit a home run with the Jews at AIPAC. So much for his alleged difficulties in Florida, methinks.

Pretty wicked Ann Telnaes cartoon this morning.

C'mon, Cassandra, time to hit the deck.

Posted by: Curmudgeon | June 5, 2008 6:06 AM | Report abuse

Glad to hear that the storms left everyone relatively unscathed in your neck of the woods, 'Mudge. I'm headed off to camp with my son until Saturday. *putting on my bus driver's hat*. Keep 'em straight, Mr. Shop Steward.

Posted by: jack | June 5, 2008 6:37 AM | Report abuse

Yes, 'Mudge. I liked his speech at AIPAC. I was glad everyone clapped, with varying degrees of enthusiasm. I was worried they'd throw rotten tomatoes at him.

I just listened an NPR interview about RFK. There was very awkward ending to the interview. Just silence, and then, "Thanks for talking to us."

Loomis, my free time is the morning of July 3. I was thinking of taking my boss to the Museum of Texan Cultures. That place made a big impact way back in '82, and again when I dragged a couple of St. Mary's friends there in '90. I haven't Googled it, but I hope it is still open to the public.

Posted by: a bea c | June 5, 2008 6:40 AM | Report abuse

Hey You All, we have power! Now, to disconnect everything from the generator, wires all around, out the window.

TBG, saw you on the boodle last night, so maybe you had power? Thought we lived fairly close together....but maybe not.

Lots of fallen leaves, etc in yard, but no trees down, a blessing.

Posted by: VintageLady | June 5, 2008 6:43 AM | Report abuse

Good morning. We never lost power, but we did lose our cable connection - which meant neither television or internet. It was still out when I left this morning.

See, this is the reason I resist adding telephone to the package.

Thanks to those who seconded my post last night.

Posted by: RD Padouk | June 5, 2008 7:32 AM | Report abuse

Pardon me if this is a case of faulty memory, but I don't recall having seen Raysmom for several days, if not a couple weeks...

*considering lighting off the RaySignal to ascertain her status*


Posted by: Scottynuke | June 5, 2008 7:35 AM | Report abuse

Morning all... VL.. we rarely lose power for more than two or three minutes. Most, if not all, power lines around here are underground; I guess that's why we're so lucky that way.

I grew up about a mile from here and we lost our power every time it stormed. Which was especially bad because we were on well and septic. No water, no flushing. Yuk.

Glad to see everyone "up and atom" this morning. Gonna go walk around the lake now... see y'all later!

Posted by: TBG | June 5, 2008 7:55 AM | Report abuse

This WaPo editorial, I think, does a very nice even-handed job of summarizing things.

Posted by: RD Padouk | June 5, 2008 8:32 AM | Report abuse

Daughter called this morning. Loudoun Co. closed all the schools last night and confirmed closure at about 0500, then back peddled after 0615, changing to only closing elementary schools. She's at a middle school.

Majority of the area she is in is still without power, don't know status of her school. Big problem is that storm ripped off some of the front area of the school and some of the roof over the entrance.

Not going to be the funnest day today.

Being connected to all that made for an interesting trip to work this morning. Kept looking for downed trees and such. I'm ≥500 miles from NoVa. :¬∑


Posted by: DLD | June 5, 2008 8:34 AM | Report abuse

DLD -- love your mathey stuff and self.

Thanks, DNA-G.

SD, great photos of so many charming and beloved flowers.

Glad we are mostly safe.

Off by bike, verry verry carefurry.

Posted by: Anonymous | June 5, 2008 8:45 AM | Report abuse

I'm impressed by this editorial by that New York paper as well.

You know, folks who do this kind of a thing for a living are pretty good at it.

Posted by: RD Padouk | June 5, 2008 8:49 AM | Report abuse

Oh. My. Varmints.

Posted by: RD Padouk | June 5, 2008 8:58 AM | Report abuse

I swear the power here goes out when someone sneezes.

I'm sure it has nothing to do with the time machine I've been working on that draws 4.3 terawatts whenever I decide to turn it on so I can visit Mudge and his buddies back in 1076.

We had a small dose of thunder boomers this morning. One struck pretty close to home -- shook the whole darn house and me out of my bed. Needless to say, I didn't need any coffee to get me going this morning.

btw... Mornin' everybody.

And remember (as I mentioned last night) today is silly day. Do something silly -- but leave the stoopid out. It'll feel good... I promise.

Peace out :-)

Posted by: martooni | June 5, 2008 8:58 AM | Report abuse

Count me among those in NoVa without power. It's been out since around 6 p.m. when a large tree came down on power lines. A neighbor was in her car right near where it happened and says it looked like the transformer blew. Estimate power restoration is 10 p.m. tonight.

Posted by: Raysmom | June 5, 2008 9:03 AM | Report abuse

a bea c,
Institute of Texan Cultures is a good pick. One of my Red Cross minders during the Helotes Mulch Fire is an employee in the gift shop. IIRC, she said they had budget problems in terms of keeping the displays fresh and up-to-date, but that said, the information contained within their walls will still give a visitor to the city a good overview of local history and all the various cultures involved in settling the city and broader area. Yes, very good choice. Enjoy!

I had one other thought last night--well several. Several were destinations close to downtown, but the other is an event, if you stay over until Friday, July 4th? Performances of Fiesta Noche del Rio are at 8:30 p.m. Fridays and Saturdays at the outdoor Arneson River Theater directly on the Riverwalk itself. Fantastic song and dance, really something not to be missed if visitors are here during the summer months. Amphitheater seating cost $5-$15.

Posted by: Loomis | June 5, 2008 9:06 AM | Report abuse

Yikes Raysmom. If you need anything, come on over.

Posted by: TBG | June 5, 2008 9:24 AM | Report abuse

Oh.. and firsttimeblogger... Congrats on the Cup!

Posted by: TBG | June 5, 2008 9:25 AM | Report abuse

*putting the RaySignal back in storage*

Hey Raysmom, glad you're OK, and hope the power's back soon! :-)

Posted by: Scottynuke | June 5, 2008 9:48 AM | Report abuse

'Mudge, you might want to avert yer eyes on this one... *SIGH*

Posted by: Scottynuke | June 5, 2008 9:54 AM | Report abuse

Oh dear. It sounds like everyone's feet stayed dry. ish. thank goodness. With luck, those of you who are where this system is going to go, will stay dry and warm too.

Posted by: dr | June 5, 2008 9:56 AM | Report abuse

eidrib, I've also noticed it's been very strangley windy this year.

I left the building just as the wind stopped blowing the rain sideways. When I got out at Cleveland Park it was only raining. So I missed the green sky/clouds. Stopped in a restaurant I like for a quick bite and a drink, and when I left it had stopped.

I thought for sure I would be soaked when I got home, but only the soles of my shoes were wet.

For martooni:

MC:Everybody form a circle...

Put your left foot in,
Your left foot out,
Your left foot in,
And shake it all about.
You do the hokey pokey
And turn yourself around.

Now put your right foot in,
Your right foot out,
Right foot in
Then you shake it all about.
And then you do the Hokey Pokey
Turn yourself around,
That's what it's all about.

You put your head in,
You put your head out,
Put your head in,
And bang it all about.
Do the Hokey Pokey
And turn yourself around.
That's what it's all about.

Let's Do the Hokey Pokey!
Let's Do the Hokey Pokey!
Let's Do the Hokey Pokey!
That's what it's all about.

Put your right hand in,
Your right hand out,
Your right hand in,
And shake it all about,
You do the Hokey Pokey,
And you turn yourself around.

Now put your tongue in,
And your tongue out,
Tongue in,
And Blblblblbl!
You do the Hokey Pokey
Turn yourself around
That's what it's all about.

You put your bottom in,
Put your bottom out,
Put your bottom in,
You put your bottom out,
Put your bottom in,
You put your bottom out,
Put your bottom in,
You put your bottom out,
Put your bottom in,
You put your bottom out,
Put your bottom in,
You put your bottom out,
Put your bottom in,
You put your bottom out,
Do the Hokey Pokey,
Turn yourself about.

Let's do the Hokey Pokey!
Let's do the Hokey Pokey!
Let's do the Hokey Pokey!
That's what it's all about.

Posted by: omni | June 5, 2008 10:07 AM | Report abuse

Thanks for the concern, Scotty. I was on business travel last week, at all-day meetings this week, and am now scrambling to catch up. Funny thing is, I logged on this morning to do a quick post regarding my whereabouts and didn't see yours. Apparently it was a case of "great minds."

Thanks for the offer, TBG. I think we'll be OK as long as the 10 p.m. estimate of power restoration comes true. At least tonight I can plan on takeout for dinner. Last night it was hot dogs and beans cooked on the gas grill. In the rain. Add the candles, flashlights, and battery-powered radio and it was just like camping.

Posted by: Raysmom | June 5, 2008 10:11 AM | Report abuse

{* performs a happy furry gnome dance to the Hokey Pokey *}

Ouch! I guess my back ain't like it used to be.

My next silly act will involve a fish, a barrel, three nuns, a penguin and a propane torch.

Film at 11.

Posted by: martooni | June 5, 2008 10:17 AM | Report abuse

The commute home last night did not disappoint my most dreaded expectations. As I pulled up to my house, the sky once again opened up with it's blessings. The power had been out in the entire village since 3 pm. Inside, my wife was sitting in the gathering gloom. My daughter was soaking in the tub, thus depleting all of the available hot water. I had half expected it, but was a bit annoyed to learn that I would most definitely be taking a cold shower this evening.

While I scrounged around for candles, oil lamps, and flashlights, my wife selflessly saved the ice cream from an ignominious ruin. That was a dirty job, but somebody had to do it. In my disaster preparedness planning, I had counted on using the outdoor grill for cooking. Rain pouring steadily all over the grill quickly washed that idea down the drain. I was trying to determine how I was going to fix something that everybody liked with only a little camping stove, when the power returned. Pizza, anybody? You can wash down your ice-cream with it.

Posted by: Don from I-270 | June 5, 2008 10:26 AM | Report abuse

One of the funny things about a power outage is counting how many times you flick a light switch expecting something to happen. I did stop myself before throwing a bunch of stuff in the gargage disposal.

The not-funny thing is having no coffee in the morning. Fortunately I found an open 7-11 on the way to the train station. Raysdad reheated yesterday's leftover coffee on the gas grill. As a caffeine-delivery mechanism it was OK, but that's about it.

Posted by: Raysmom | June 5, 2008 10:37 AM | Report abuse

i think it's cute that close family members come looking for their loved ones on the boodle. sciencespouse, stick around.

Posted by: L.A. lurker | June 5, 2008 10:39 AM | Report abuse

It's the virtual equivalent, lal, of small-town Ohio, where you drive past the IGA to see if a friend's car is in the parking lot.

Posted by: dbG | June 5, 2008 10:56 AM | Report abuse

My daughter has won a "Herb Block" scholarship award, which is being presented at the WaPo building late this afternoon. I tried to email the boss to see if he was available for a very brief howdy-do, but his email was kicked back. I used:

Has he gotten a new one? I noticed that it's not published any more. When one gets to be a National Enterprize Reporter, does one also get a new email, along with keys to the executive washroom?

Posted by: Don from I-270 | June 5, 2008 10:58 AM | Report abuse

I hope all is well with the boodle
work has been demanding my noodle
"no suing" says our mayor
and while a fine prayer
in the meantime, a defence I must doodle

Posted by: SonofCarl | June 5, 2008 11:01 AM | Report abuse

Never lost power as far as I know. We used to lose power for several hours anytime a cloud passed over, but the utility did something a while back and it has been rock solid since then. It helps that my entire neighborhood is buried cable distribution.

We even had luck with the rain. The first wave came through Bawlmer while I was still at work and I didn't even lose the massive spreadsheet I had been working on all afternoon.

We took our son out for sushi for his birthday (the Big 18) and had another wave come through while we were eating but it died down before it was time to leave. I barely got wet all day. My sympathies to all the boodlers that are less fortunate.

About three years ago I had a massive hard drive crash when the power went out during a disk defrag. Since then I have both our desktops on crappy UPS systems. But it amazes me how often I get home and see a "recovered from power outage" message.

Maintaining residential power is going to become more of a DYI issue as the grid gets flakier and we get keep getting more dependent on juice with our telecommuting and electric cars and self-powered jet-packs and such.

A hormone-free chicken in every pot and a regenerating fuel cell in every garage. Now there is a campaign slogan.

Posted by: yellojkt | June 5, 2008 11:02 AM | Report abuse

God loves us so much more than we can imagine through Him that died for all, Jesus Christ.

Morning, morning, friends. I've been sitting out on the porch this morning and it is already hot. Temps today will be in the high 90's. Yesterday it was 98. Summer has arrived big time.

I have one terrific headache this morning. Trying to doctor on it and drinking lots of water. In this heat water is the ticket. My family member was transfered to another hospital for treatment. She did have a blockage, so they will treat her condition with stents. She seems to be okay. Thanks for your kind words.

As for Obama and Clinton, I don't think Mrs. Clinton wants to give up. And the fact that Obama won, I think it just leaves a bad taste in her mouth. I do think she wants a shot at the VP spot, but there has been so much bad blood between these two candidates, I don't know how that will go. I think the party needs someone that all of us can get behind and put this nightmare to rest. It has been interesting and I am so glad that the young people got involved in this campaign. Now if we can stop putting our teeth in each other, and "bite" our opponent, we'll be on the right track. Sounds mean, doesn't it?(smile)

I like your 8:39 comment from yesterday, RD. You do have a way with words.

I hope those of you that experienced the storms yesterday are okay this morning. We need the rain, but not the drama. Of course, we will take what we can get.

Have a great day, folks. I shouldn't be too busy today, but will still go to the Center. We're getting ready for the summer program, and hopefully, I can do that, and teach Vacation Bible School. I love doing that. And I would like to get back into walking a little bit more. See ya!

Posted by: cassandra s | June 5, 2008 11:04 AM | Report abuse

Thanks, for that link, Scotty. Yep, no question in my mind after watching the video: the catcher ducked, and there had to be collusion. I wish I had a nickel for every time I got hit by a pitch, though none intentional. But I got hammered a lot.

SCC: I meant Tom Toles cartoon, not Ann Telnaes.

Martooni, it would have been nice to have received a visit from you in 1076. I could have showed you around England and Normandy and we could have shared a flagon or three of some pretty decent mead. And as a special highlight of your visit, I'd have taken you to a beheading. The year before, in 1075, occurred the last revolt against the reign of my boss, William the Conqueror, when three earls tried to lead a rebellion because he refused to sanction a marriage of some dude, and the dude's buds took it badly. So Big Bill (as I called him) crushed the rebellion. Two of the three earls got exhiled and whatnot, but the third one, Waltheof, Earl of Northumberland, was beheaded on May 31. (Memo to Hillary: don't even *think* about it.)

Of course, we were somewhat busy that year laying out the planning stages, getting the needles, designing battle scenes, rounding up embroiderers, etc., for the Bayeux Tapestry, which actually got finished the next year. It was the joint brainchild of Big Bills's wife, Matilda (she was a little bit of a thing, only 4 foot 2, while he was this strapping big dude, 5'10"), and his half brother, Bishop Odo.

"Mudge," Big Bill says to me one day, "the Rib has this project she wants to do, this big wall hanging thing. S'pposed to commemorate the invasion. Like the opening of Saving Private Ryan, only with arrows, that kinda thing. I need you to go out and find me 230 feet of linen 20 inches high. And we'll need lots of stools, and probably a steady supply of pizza. Tell 'em to put it on my tab."

"Right, chief," I says. "But why one single hanging 230 feet long? Couldn't we, like, break it up into pages or chapters or something? And we don't have any walls that long. We got plenty of windows 20 inches high, but, you know, they ain't all that wide, know what I mean?"

"Mudge," he says, "I had the same thought myself. But you know Matty [that's what he called her, Matty]. She's been watching some d@mned "Design-on-a-Shilling" show on the Castle Design Network. And she may not be a farthing taller than Saint Wilbrod, the Gnome of Greenwich, but when she says she wants something, she always gets her way. And besides, it'll get that pious halfwit Odo off my back, give him something to do. He says he's gonna build a cathedral in Bayeux to keep the thing in. 'Good luck, Bro,' I says, 'but not on my dime.'"

"Your and/or her wish is my command, Sire," sez I, bening knee.

"Oh, and while I've got you, Mudge," BB sez, "I've got this other project I want you to start."

"What's that, O Noble Conqueror," I say, having this cold feeling running down my spine. (Bill and his d@mn bright ideas.)

'Start rounding up lists of the names of all the people in my kingdom. Where they live, how many cows and pigs they own, all that sort of thing. I want this big reference book of everybody and everything under my domain. I'm think of calling it either 'The One Book,' or maybe 'The Yellow Pages.'"

"Both sides of the channel, Your Nobletude?" I ask, thinking maybe it would save me some work if I only hadda do, like England. Or worst case, England *and* Wales. But no.

"The whole shebang, Mudge," he sez.

"Suppose some people don't want their names published? Like, for privacy, or to keep tinkers and door-to-door apothecaries from stopping by during the dinner hour?"

"[Redact] 'em," Big Bill says, using an Anglo-Saxon phrase just starting to gain common usage.

"Whatever you say, Chief," I says, "although you realize this is gonna take me, like nine years?"

"You got something better to do?" he asks.

"Well," I says, "there's this new serving wench down at the Rack and Pinion [N.B. the local pub], and my friend Martooni's comin' to town, and I got this canticle I'm trying to write for this Jewish guy, Liebowitz..."

"Yeah, yeah, all right already. Just try to get it started by the fall harvest," he says.

But then, that project is a whole different story.

"By the way," he says, as I'm heading out the portcullis, "ya know all them lady embroiderers you been rounding up for Matty?"

"Yeah, what about 'em?"

"They're off limits."

"Awwww, Chief," I says...

"I know you and the miladies," he says.

"Yeah, yeah," he says.

Posted by: Curmudgeon | June 5, 2008 11:10 AM | Report abuse

Almost forgot..

Howdy, Martooni, Mudge, Slyness, Scotty, and all, so glad to talk to you this morning *waving*.

Good morning, Mr. Achenbach. I hope life is treating you good, and if it is not, please advise whomever(?) is on the wrong side of that issuse, that there's a woman in North Carolina, that constantly puts you and her fellow boodlers before God in prayer. And then tell them to "back off".

Posted by: cassandra s | June 5, 2008 11:11 AM | Report abuse

Don... the boss' email address is...

no "ington"

Posted by: TBG | June 5, 2008 11:11 AM | Report abuse

Thanks, TBG. You da' bomb.

Posted by: Don from I-270 | June 5, 2008 11:23 AM | Report abuse

SCC: "The Yellow Pages" should be "The Yellow Parchments."

Posted by: Curmudgeon | June 5, 2008 11:23 AM | Report abuse

Hey Mudge... see you at the R & P around 5:00?

You're buying, right?

Posted by: martooni | June 5, 2008 11:27 AM | Report abuse

Absolutely, martooni. I've got a royal expense account. Just stay away from my serving wench.

Posted by: Curmudgeon | June 5, 2008 11:31 AM | Report abuse

Thanks Don!

*blushing a little*

If JA's there, I'm sure he'd love to see you! Congrats on your daughter's award, too. That's very cool.

Posted by: TBG | June 5, 2008 11:32 AM | Report abuse

I suppose the possessor of a Herb Block scholarship has good excuse for being something of a critic. Might even be qualified to write a term paper on how Nixon's image might have been different had he lived in the age of razors with five blades.

Posted by: Dave of the Coonties | June 5, 2008 11:44 AM | Report abuse

I'm so embarrassed! When I saw the cry of "STANLEY!" in the blog last night, I thought the proper response would be "LIVINGSTONE!"

Now I realize it should have been "OLLIE!"

Posted by: nellie | June 5, 2008 11:54 AM | Report abuse

See Gail Collins' op-ed in the NYT today:

She's obviously planning to quit, but she deserves the chance to do it in her own sweet time.

It's not surprising that Hillary was having trouble coming to grips with the fact that she lost. Every time she started to adjust, she won another big primary. The campaign felt as if it was in some kind of Bizarro world: the more she won, the farther back she fell. When she took South Dakota Tuesday night, in a big upset, the TV stations immediately announced that, thanks to South Dakota, Obama had a lock on the nomination.

LL: My feelings are very closely aligned with those of dbG's. I saw the coverage on TV of how Obama swept aside his opponents in Chicago, including the older woman incumbent. Hardly the politics of change, but truly politics as usual.

If I were in the Obama strategy camp right now, I'd be figuring out how to woo older voters, working-class voters, women voters and Hispanic voters. If Obama should pick Kansas Gov. Kathleen as his vice Presidential running mate, I think you will see women defecting the Democratic party in droves--thy's make an old-time buffalo stampede look like a picnic of ants.

Speaking of women writers, I'm a bit surprised that Sally Quinn didn't write something about RFK today, given that she was the northern California assistant media coordinator for RFK, a position she held until his assassination. Was she in the Amnassador Hotel that fateful night? I happened to be scanning a biography of RFK to learn that Richard Goodwin was with him that night, plotting strategy, Richard the husband of historian Doris Kearns Goodwin.

Important to note that Sally Quinn was a flip-flopper, having served in 67-68 as a D.C. organizer for Eugene J. MCCarthy. Pretty good gigs if you could get them back then, considering she graduated near the bottom of her class at Smith and worked in NYC as a model and go-go dancer. *l*

Some really sore losers will say--18 million votes down and 48 million more to go--for Hillary Clinton.

Posted by: Loomis | June 5, 2008 11:56 AM | Report abuse

Good morning, all.

Mudge, that's good stuff, thanks for the snorts this morning.

I'm catching up on the Boodle, but I'm glad that everyone's OK after those storms yesterday evening.

I bought a generator years ago, which is nice to have when the power goes out... I didn't actually have to use it yesterday, thank goodness.

Being a little sciency-pointy, I kinda like interesting weather; watching the skies, seeing the winds, watching how animals react to the situation.

But I'm geeky that way. I'm sure when I ultimately meet my demise I'll say something Maxwell Smart-esque: "What a great view! It's coming right at me!"

On the topic of women's rights, ages of consent, responsibility, etc., all I can add is an an echo of LL: LIT, well said.

cassandra, I think there's far more bad blood between Obama and Clinton supporters than there are between the candidates themselves. Now, does that mean they would end up on the same ticket? I don't know.

If Ms. Clinton really wanted to get tough and disruptive with the Dem party, her team could suggest she run for president as a third party candidate, maybe reaching across to a GOP or fellow Dem for a VP.

Because her team has not, I think she's more interested in keeping the Dem party together. That's good for Obama, and his supporters may want to consider that idea before being too vocal about how she's handling things at this point in time.

If the Clinton folks wanted to make things *very* difficult for Obama and the Dem party, they sure could.


Posted by: Anonymous | June 5, 2008 12:02 PM | Report abuse

Have you seen this picture? I think I managed to refrain from posting it early:

Not to toot my own horn too much, but SOMEbody had to realize that the opportunity to get this shot would present itself.

Movie due later this year...

Posted by: ScienceTim | June 5, 2008 12:09 PM | Report abuse

A "royal" expense account?

Ain't ye just the king's pantaloons!

Seriously... if I ever make it down to the DC area again in this lifetime, I'll buy *you* a drink.

Posted by: martooni | June 5, 2008 12:11 PM | Report abuse

Drinks!?! Someone's buying drinks?
Great Goodness, lookit the time!
Mudge, I really liked your story a lot.
A limerick! Hi SoC and Raysmom and all.
If I slide to stoopit from silly (very easy to do)I'm sure Martooni will know what to do. Still have the big red button, Martooni?
I liked Mudge's story. A lot.

Posted by: Boko999 | June 5, 2008 12:41 PM | Report abuse


And your new-found fascination with Sally Quinn would have nothing to do with the catty remarks she made about Hillary on CBS this morning? You forgot to mention that as well as being a go-go dancer Quinn was a public relations agent for a Coney Island animal husbandry exhibit.

You should have more respect for someone who is the descendant of a signer of the Declaration of Independence.

Maybe you and your 18 million fellow Hillaristas could run her as a write-in independent candidate. I'm sure plenty of Republicans could provide backing. That is if Burkle, Gupta, and Giustra aren't willing to pony up more bribes.

Posted by: Not Loomis | June 5, 2008 12:43 PM | Report abuse

This is an excellent analysis of when and why the Obama victory was sealed.

It was the caucuses, baby! Once he got a lead, proportional awarding of delegates did the rest. The other factor was the fact that Obama's Iowa victory made him the go-to guy for any and all anti Clinton voters. Opposition to HRC coalesced in favor of the one campaign which had a unique caucus dominating strategy already in place.

Posted by: kurosawaguy | June 5, 2008 12:46 PM | Report abuse

Over lunch I took a long walk through the suburban hinterlands. The devastation from yesterday's storm was everywhere. I counted over a dozen fallen trees, including many old enough to know better. That many of these trees chose to fall onto inconveniently located apartment buildings suggests many doubtless found last night far too exciting for comfort.

Posted by: RD Padouk | June 5, 2008 12:49 PM | Report abuse

O.K., an RFK tribute is now on the homepage, so time to chime in. As you may recall, since I Boodled it, I got a tour of the spot where the RFK assassination took place, a month after the deed.

In my library (note: no strain, since the book is here at home) is a book titled "Looking Back," a series of essays by Russell Baker, Pulitzer-prize-winning reporter (winning for distinguished commentary in 1979 and biography in 1983). One of the essays in the book is titled "Feud" about the great rift between LBJ and RFK.

Baker mentions several works about this feud, including one he admires (but does point out its weaknesses), a book by Jeff Shesol, "Mutual Contempt." Baker explains that Shesol's narrative has four stages:

First, Bobby's opposition to Johnson at the 1960 Democratic convention. Within the essay, Baker writes about his interview with President Johnson, during which Johnson explains that he was persuaded to run in 1960 by Sam Rayburn and Phil Graham, publisher of the Washington Post. Baker (as does Sy Hersh) briefly mentions that Teddy Kennedy had already been dispatched to Texas to deliver a speech exaggerating the severity of Johnson's earlier heart attack.

Second, Johnson's refusal to make Bobby his vice presidential candidate in 1964.

Third, Bobby's establishment of a power base in New York from which to build a 1972 presidential campaign.

Fourth, Johnson's self-destruction (keeping key Kennedy advisors) and Bobby's decision to go for the presidency.

One of the most fascinating parts of the long essay for me was the huge conflict between cultures, the regional antipathies, that Baker describes--essentially the Harvard Kennedy crowd vs. the populist Johnson. Given his mastery of the Senate, Johnson considered the wealthy JFK a Congressional backbencher and slacker. (Echoes of the current contest? I also recall NYT David Brooks' elitist comments, regional antipathies, on a talk show--if not last Sunday, the Sunday before, about Texas Bushie rubes. And, David, the neocons who dispensed advice to Bush's Texans on the Potomac were educated where? Note that if either Obama or McCain is elected, we're going to have a Western president.)

These are the next-to-last grafs of Baker's essay:

"...early in 1968, with Johnson's strength crumbling, Eugene McCarthy took it [the opportunity to challenge a sitting president]. Bobby's younger advisers, who sensed the change taking place in their own generation, had urged and urged him to take on Johnson in 1968. He made some speeched disagreeing with the Vietnam policy, but his own thinking on Vietnam was still hawkish. The nub of it was that instead of bombing, we should be using counterinsurgency forces. Neither man seemed to understand that the Vietnamese were fighting a war for independence.

"In March, McCarthy's vote in the New Hampshire primary was big enough to show that LBJ was terribly weak. Worse for Johnson, McCathy seemed likely to win the forthcoming primary in Minnesota, his home state. With the news of McCarthy's New Hampshire showing, Bobby jumped at last. It was late, terribly late, maybe too late. It was McCarthy who had won the devotion of the young who should have been Bobby's natural constituency. Many now regarded Bobby as a spoiler who had been too timid to fight against the odds, as McCathy had. Bobby was forced to fight McCathy in a series of divisive primary elections. He had just won one when he was murdered in Los Angeles, for no apparent reason, by a Palestinian."

For an overview of the 1968 contest:,_1968

Posted by: Loomis | June 5, 2008 12:50 PM | Report abuse

Newfound fascination?!?

Sally Quinn is my distant cousin!

*laughing uproariously*

Posted by: Loomis | June 5, 2008 12:53 PM | Report abuse

Sorry, don't watch CBS.

Posted by: Loomis | June 5, 2008 12:54 PM | Report abuse

I'm beginning to think that Centreville is one of the fortunate spots. We did get the massive storm yesterday -- it managed to trap all of us who came to watch our kindergarteners perform patriotic songs slightly off-key in the cafeteria 15 minutes after the program was over. Amazingly, even though the power went off for a few minutes, we had no panicked kids. The moose and I hung around his classroom to let the storm die down, then managed to run and get all our errands done before the next wave struck. I opened the curtains to let him watch the storm; he would run to the glass doors every ten minutes and shout, "Wow! That's lots of rain!" However, no long-term power losses and the moose's school is one of the few elementary schools still open (much to the chagrin of the ladies answering the phones).

Posted by: CentrevilleMom | June 5, 2008 12:55 PM | Report abuse

..related through "Billy Bob" Williams, signer of the Declaration of Independence..

*laughing uproariously*

Posted by: Loomis | June 5, 2008 12:59 PM | Report abuse

Loomis... I am your father.

Posted by: Darth Vader | June 5, 2008 1:00 PM | Report abuse

" It was McCarthy who had won the devotion of the young who should have been Bobby's natural constituency. Many now regarded Bobby as a spoiler who had been too timid to fight against the odds, as McCathy had."

That'd be me.

Posted by: kurosawaguy | June 5, 2008 1:01 PM | Report abuse

40 years ago today, robert kennedy was killed. i was 18 years old, just finished with my first year of college, working my way through school as a construction worker. the night before RFK died i had crushed my right index finger while lifting weights. my mother woke me up at four in the morning to tell me the news. the next day i was doing pick and shovel work with my crushed finger throbbing, but my heart was broken even worse.

today i read some remembrances of RFK by his children (in the NYT). they made me recall what it was about RFK that came through.

tonight i will be back at the gym in my absurd attempt to stave off the inevitable. i will try not to crush my finger, but there is a feeling in the air this year once again. no longer an innocent or an idealist, i feel no shame in suggesting that the democratic nominee reminds me of RFK.

Posted by: butlerguy | June 5, 2008 1:02 PM | Report abuse

Not helpful Not Loomis.
I'm getting a headache.

Posted by: Boko999 | June 5, 2008 1:05 PM | Report abuse

The single biggest failure of the Clinton campaign, to my mind, was her inability to garner sufficient superdelegate votes.

These are largely career politicians, many of them with close ties to the Clintons. These are the people specifically designated to serve as a buffer against the vicissitudes of the electorate.

And yet, when she needed them most, these folks - who are supremely motivated to guarantee the selection of the most electable candidate - turned their backs on Hillary Clinton.

Posted by: RD Padouk | June 5, 2008 1:05 PM | Report abuse

> Sally Quinn is my distant cousin!

And your class position when you graduated Smith was?

Posted by: CC | June 5, 2008 1:16 PM | Report abuse

Since you are so fond of copyright flaunting quote-dumps, here is the CBS Morning Show transcript:

"I've been intrigued by the questions in the last couple of weeks, 'What does Hillary really want?' And I think that the answer is that Hillary, up until now, has wanted what she thinks she should want. And what I think is that Hillary doesn't know what she wants. And she doesn't know who she really is.

"From the very beginning, when she married Bill Clinton, when she moved to Arkansas, she gave up her lucrative career, she changed her name during the campaign, 'I'll stand by my man' -- her personality changed. You remember when she first came into the White House and she had a different hairdo and a different outfit? She looked completely different. And people kept saying, 'Who is she?'

"And, even during the campaign this time -- during the Monica (Lewinsky) thing, when she stood by Bill Clinton, she was the health care maven. She was the strong one and the weak one.

And, during this campaign, she allowed him to, on some levels, sabotage her. She was feisty at some point and even shrill, and then she would cry.

"And then ... she said (after winning the New Hampshire primary), 'I found my voice.' But I don't think that she ever did find her voice.

"And I think that what she needs to do now -- and I know this sounds really strange, but -- if I were Hillary Clinton, I would go off to a retreat somewhere. ... A silent retreat. And I would stay there, I would take a sabbatical and stay there for three months, and not talk, and meditate, and think, and try to figure out who I really was and what I really wanted. I'm serious.

"I think that this is a tortured person who has run and run and run and gone for it and gone for it, and it's power, and it's this and it's that, 'I've got to be there.' There's never a moment where you see her relaxing, where you see her really stopping to smell the roses, stopping to say, 'Who am I and what is it that I want?'

"Maybe what she really needs is a wonderful, loving relationship with somebody instead of just going after power and being this ambitious person that I think she thinks she oughta be."

NL: Quinn's feud with the Clintons goes back to being snubbed by Hillary at the beginning of the Clinton Administration. Hell hath no fury like a social maven scorned by carpet-bagging redneck trash.

Posted by: Not Loomis | June 5, 2008 1:17 PM | Report abuse


Gee thanks, I never would have thought of going to Wikipedia if I wanted to find out more about one of your silly little tangents. You truly are a genius researcher.

Posted by: Also Not Loomis | June 5, 2008 1:30 PM | Report abuse

Great link, k-guy. That article really spells out how Obama's "three yards and a cloud of dust" delegate strategy nipped away at Hillary's coronation tour. He was also smart to become the touchstone for the Anybody But Hillary faction right out of the gate.

Posted by: yellojkt | June 5, 2008 1:33 PM | Report abuse

Time for a new Kit, I'd say.

Posted by: Yoki | June 5, 2008 1:34 PM | Report abuse

I was about a year or two old when RFK was assassinated, so I don't remember much directly.

What I do know is that a lot of people thought of him then in the same way that a lot of people today think of Obama. Hope. The future. Letting go of the past, yet not forgetting the lessons it taught. A plan to make things better for the average Joe without crushing him, sneaking away his rights as a citizen or poisoning his back yard.

I'm sure RFK had his jacka$$ moments just like everyone else. I'd even bet that Obama has screwed up on occasion -- with or without his pastor's help. Pobody's nerfect.

In other words, I'm not saying either is or was a saint, and I'm not trying to make a case for absolute parallelism between their public/political lives -- but they *are* uncannily similar in so many ways.

Good ways.

I just hope beyond hope that we don't see a repeat of what can happen to someone with that much potential when a jacka$$ with a gun and an agenda based on insanity enters the picture.

As always... PEACE OUT (and be silly, too)

The world needs more silly, less stoopid.

Posted by: martooni | June 5, 2008 1:40 PM | Report abuse

I remember my sister running down the hall out of her bedroom, half dressed, getting ready for high school, shouting "Kennedy's been shot!"

It woke me up (I was in elementary school) and I thought, "Yeah... who don't know that?" thinking she meant JFK.

I can see it in my mind like it happened yesterday.

Posted by: TBG | June 5, 2008 1:45 PM | Report abuse

Who said that?

Posted by: Boko999 | June 5, 2008 1:47 PM | Report abuse

I think the amazing thing in this article is not that there was a lighthouse missing for 80 years, but that there's a publication called "Lighthouse Digest."

Posted by: TBG | June 5, 2008 1:54 PM | Report abuse

Yes...and what does that tell you, Padouk?

"It was McCarthy who had won the devotion of the young who should have been Bobby's natural constituency." But this isn't right, nor remotely nuanced enough.

McCarthy didn't win "the devotion of the young" per se; he won the devotion of the the anti-war movement, which indeed tended to be young. And at the time RFK had *no* constituency per se, because he hadn't announced. So the real, true comparison should only be betwen EMcC and LBJ, and yes, of that match-up, EMcC had "the devotion of the young."

It is also important to point out that until EMcC won that first primary, which surprised the bejayzus out of everyone, including McC himself, everyone thought McC was not only a "traitor" and a fool, but also had about zero chance of accomplishing anything against LBJ. He was likened to, say, Ron Paul, or Mike Gravel, some guy who was operating on principal just to make a point. (I know; I was an early McCarthyite, there being a war on and my sorry butt VC cannon fodder bait. And there were people shooting at us students and killing some of us [q.v. Orangeburg Massacre, 2/8/68], a trend that would continue.)

And yes, there is quite legitimate debate over whether Bobby should have stood up earlier and opposed LBJ earlier and stronger. But he hesitated. But when he did finally move, he *did* pretty much take away a lot of McC's young/student supporters (a.k.a. supposedly his "natural constituency," which is still wrong IMHO; his "natural" constituency also included the entirety of the Civil Rights movement, upon which McC had comparatively little effect, contact or influence). (And I know this, too, because I was a McC-to-RFK convert, as were dozens of my friends and fellow students.)

The entire situation and period dynamics were a lot more transitional and fluid than a lot of "stop-time" snapshots would lead you to believe. One cannot stop the Time Machine at any given point and draw conclusions and analysis. One has to see it as transition, "change," if you will.

Posted by: Curmudgeon | June 5, 2008 1:57 PM | Report abuse

TBG, something like that this morning, I was just waking up and my husband was saying something about, "Kennedy died" and I said, (thinking of Teddy, and my heart sinking) "He died?" and Hubby said, "He was shot" and then I really had a moment, until all was clarified, Bobby, not Teddy, and it happened 40 years ago. Yeah, I knew that...and I'm awake now.

Posted by: kbertocci | June 5, 2008 2:01 PM | Report abuse

They eat lighthouses, TBG?


Posted by: DLD | June 5, 2008 2:02 PM | Report abuse

ScienceTim. Is the EPOXI spacecraft parked in a Lagrange point?

Posted by: Boko999 | June 5, 2008 2:02 PM | Report abuse

Mudge - I don't think I'm the one you wanted to address that comment to.

Posted by: RD Padouk | June 5, 2008 2:02 PM | Report abuse

I mean, I know hardly anything about RFK and LBJ other than what the nuns taught me all those years ago. Or were you compounding replies?

Posted by: RD Padouk | June 5, 2008 2:04 PM | Report abuse

I was four at the time of Robert and Martin. I have no genuine recollection of that era other than seeing soldiers in the jungle on the news and knowing that that had something to do with why my dad sent us mini-reel-to-reel (just like on Mission Impossible) voice messages every week.

I would get so excited when I saw one of the fat envelopes in the mail because that meant my daddy was going to talk to us.

Posted by: yellojkt | June 5, 2008 2:17 PM | Report abuse

Actually Boko, it's EPOXId into an orbit around the sun. Stuck into a gravitational groove that brings it back near to earth every year or so, I think.

IIRC EPOXI is the orbiter from the Deep Impact mission, renamed. If you don't remember Deep Impact, that mission bombed the Sea Monkeys (and the HellBar) on Tempel-1, an unwarranted act of intertranssolar object war that remains unanswered to this day.

That last para goes *way* back into the history of the Boodle, and the days of the SAO-15. Oy.


Posted by: bc | June 5, 2008 2:26 PM | Report abuse

Boko, EPOXI is in a heliocentric orbit that intersects with Earth's orbit and is not too different from Earth's. EPOXI made a flyby of Earth back on December 31 and has been pulling away from Earth since then. Soon, it will be passing outside of Earth's orbit and Earth will catch up with it again, leading to another flyby of Earth on December 30 of this year. Due to the peculiarities of the spacecraft's configuration and operational issues, however, yesterday was the last opportunity to image Earth for about a year or so. I worked it out, but I have forgotten the schedule details.

Posted by: ScienceTim | June 5, 2008 2:27 PM | Report abuse

Back to the campaign for a moment (sorry!)... again with the "suspend."

Did we decide that has something to do with fundraising?

Posted by: TBG | June 5, 2008 2:34 PM | Report abuse

Actually, Gene McCarthy didn't win the New Hampshire primary in 1968, but he did get 42% percent of the votes against 49% for the incumbent president, which was certainly a moral victory if not a mathematical one. He did win outright in Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, and Oregon. Delegates were not bound by the primary results in those days, and although he did not compete in a single primary, Hubert Humphrey got the nod at the convention in Chicago. The reaction within the party to the debacle at Chicago and the subsequent reaction to the reaction have reverberated right up until this year. Attempts to reach a balance between the will of the people and the experience of political pros continue in the superdelegate solution (and we all can see how well that's workin').

Posted by: kurosawaguy | June 5, 2008 2:35 PM | Report abuse

Something that I would add here is that the EPOXI/Deep Impact spacecraft [some might call it an unmanned military drone] has an imaging system designed to record visuals, spectra, and other information from an object impacting the Templel-1 asteroid in order to learn about the compsition of said asteroid.

Some say it was a pre-emptive strike ordered by the Bush administration on a rumored uranium enrichment plant that the Tempel-1 inhabitants were said to be constutcing for their nuclear weapons program.

Personally, I don't buy it.
I've met those folks, and they're the nicest evolved shrimp I've ever had the pleasure of sharing a drink with.


Posted by: bc | June 5, 2008 2:46 PM | Report abuse

Mudge, bless you for weaving that tapestry of tall tales. I expect a shrine to St. Wilbrod will turn up in your garden soon; perhaps with a fishing rod.

Cassandra, keep plugging those prayers.

SoC, good to see you give us a heads-up on your travails. May cranky you doodle dandy as you stick that lawsuit up the other's nethers and call it baloney.

Posted by: Wilbrod | June 5, 2008 2:50 PM | Report abuse

SciTim. This EXPOXI thingie sounds like a DC cab. You can never get one when you want one. They're all hangin' out at the airport!

Posted by: Anonymous | June 5, 2008 2:51 PM | Report abuse

Don't you think that Siggie Freud of Freiburg's more than 100-year-old comment "What do women want?" is er, um, incredibly outdated? As if the field of psychology has been stalled for more than a century?

Thanks, whoever you are, for the Quinn remarks that aired on CBS this morning. There is so much more that one could say about Cousin Sal, derived from Heymann's book in which she is one of five members of the Georgetown Ladies' Social Club profiled--the gossipy book's been out there on the public record since November 2004.

Posted by: Loomis | June 5, 2008 2:56 PM | Report abuse

Mudge, are you a Norman? I feel like you are writing a chapter of my trip...we saw the Tapastry the second day that we were there. It is now in it's own glass enclosed case/room with little individual tour talk thingys (like a tape recorder) to listen to the history as we viewed each panel. It was actually embroidered by nuns in England.

Do you know the Alignments? I thought about posting about those while everybody was talking about Stonehenge.

Posted by: VintageLady | June 5, 2008 3:03 PM | Report abuse

Mudge, are you a Norman? I feel like you are writing a chapter of my trip...we saw the Tapastry the second day that we were there. It is now in it's own glass enclosed case/room with little individual tour talk thingys (like a tape recorder) to listen to the history as we viewed each panel. It was actually embroidered by nuns in England.

Do you know the Alignments? I thought about posting about those while everybody was talking about Stonehenge.

Posted by: VintageLady | June 5, 2008 3:03 PM | Report abuse

Where, exactly, was the quote "What do women want" used? I do not see it. I do see, "What does Hillary want." Which seems a fair question.

Posted by: RD Padouk | June 5, 2008 3:07 PM | Report abuse

Better check out Froomkin today:

First two grafs:

Despite opposition from both the Iraqi and American people, President Bush appears to be forging ahead on a multi-year security agreement with the Iraqi government that would lock in the occupation status quo.

A British newspaper reports new details about the ongoing secret negotiations: Bush wants to retain the use of more than 50 military bases in Iraq and is insisting on immunity from Iraqi law for U.S. troops and contractors, as well as a free hand to carry out military activities without consulting the Baghdad government. The pact, which Bush has said he *does not intend to submit for Congressional approval*, would take effect shortly before he leaves office. Reversing it, while possible, would force a future president to break an international commitment. (And that's a problem, especially a deal not approved by Congress?)

Posted by: Loomis | June 5, 2008 3:10 PM | Report abuse

Here they are, row after row, acre upon acre, there before Christ, long, long before Christ. Some say the druids designed them. I think it would be creepy/cool to move among them at night, at midnight, with a full moon and see what happens. We viewed them in the afternoon. Bathroom was unisex, no lid, at all.

Posted by: VintageLady | June 5, 2008 3:16 PM | Report abuse

While this isn't exactly silly, it is kinda cool.

Posted by: omni | June 5, 2008 3:21 PM | Report abuse

bother, link did not work.

Try this one:

Posted by: VintageLady | June 5, 2008 3:23 PM | Report abuse

VL - are these the alignments you mean?

They certainly are evocative.

Posted by: RD Padouk | June 5, 2008 3:25 PM | Report abuse

Truly sorry, Padouk. Yes, I was compounding replies. The question, "What does that tell you?" was addressed to your comment, "And yet, when she needed them most, these folks - who are supremely motivated to guarantee the selection of the most electable candidate - turned their backs on Hillary Clinton."

Wasn't being smart-a$$ or snarky; was truly asking what conclusions you would draw from the fact (with which I agree) that many of the super/party leadership chose Obama over her. I regard it as significant and very telling, though I'm not quite sure why/how to interpret their reasoning. But yes, that's what they did.

All the other RFK stuff was in general reply to the "natural constituency" question, and I don't even remember whose comment that was.

Sorry for the confusion.

Posted by: Curmudgeon | June 5, 2008 3:27 PM | Report abuse

In the spirit of the day, thought I'd share a few grafs from Wiki on silliness.

Silly, in addition to its dictionary definitions, may refer to:

Silly, Belgium, a town in Belgium.
Silly (band), an East German rock group from the 1970s.

Silly is a German rock band. Founded in East Germany in the year 1978, Silly was one of the country's most popular music acts, and was well known for its charismatic lead singer Tamara Danz. Her death in 1996 ended the band's recording career, although the surviving members continue to work together, occasionally performing with other singers.

The band was founded in East Berlin in 1978 as Familie Silly (The Silly Family) by guitarist Thomas Fritzsching and bassist Mathias Schramm. They added Familie to the band's name after East German authorities refused to allow Silly by itself, as it was an English expression; the band claimed that Silly was the name of their mascot, a cat, who behaved in silly manners.

Posted by: Raysmom | June 5, 2008 3:28 PM | Report abuse

No problem Mudge. I get confused easily.

Clearly I meant my "turned their backs" comment as rhetorical. To me it seems obvious that these pros were not impressed by the arguments Clinton was making. But I am open to other interpretations for the actions of the superdelegates.

At least I was. Now I'm kinda sick of it all. Now I wanna go learn more about those big rock thingies Vintage Lady pointed out to us.

Posted by: RD Padouk | June 5, 2008 3:35 PM | Report abuse

I learned in Health class that if you smoke too much it will kill all the silly in your throat and you will hack a lot in the morning.

Posted by: RD Padouk | June 5, 2008 3:37 PM | Report abuse

Not so much a Norman (or a Normal, for that matter) as a Norseman, VL. Also, my strong attraction to blue bottoms suggest that somewhere in my Jungian psyche I have Druidical/Celtic heritage.

And yes, I'm very familiar with The Alignments; I have all their albums, and saw them in concert back when they were calling themselves the Unrolling Stones.

Or could be I'm a bit confused...

Posted by: Curmudgeon | June 5, 2008 3:40 PM | Report abuse

Yep, you got them, RDP!

LOL to Mudge, silly day!

Posted by: VintageLady | June 5, 2008 3:47 PM | Report abuse

Do others have a huge grey square figure on their browers pages while at Achenblog today? I see it at home and on campus, in both Firefox and Safari....weird.

Funnest moment of this kit is to find out that ScienceSpouse (Tim's fair and lovely bride) knits.

Did he tell this before? If not, was he afraid that some of us might make a midnight yarn run to his house?

Posted by: College Parkian | June 5, 2008 4:01 PM | Report abuse

CP, you should be home resting your ribs. Don't make me come up there, young lady...

Posted by: Curmudgeon | June 5, 2008 4:08 PM | Report abuse

There are some things we just. don't. talk about.

Going off-line soon. Getting kicked from my hotel room, then there's hours before my shuttle to the airport. Then hours and hours of transit. Oh, joy. The excitement of taking the cheapest fare.

Posted by: ScienceTim | June 5, 2008 4:10 PM | Report abuse

CP, I get those gray boxes once in a while, but only with Firefox. I just this minute opened Safari instead for that reason. Sometimes with Firefox I also get weird line jumble things. But since Firefox is my default these days, I go with it until it messes up and switch over when I have to.

Posted by: bia | June 5, 2008 4:26 PM | Report abuse

Those menhirs look just like the ones Obelix is always carting around.

Posted by: yellojkt | June 5, 2008 4:37 PM | Report abuse

Hmmmm. Interesting. SecDef Gates has just fired the top two guys in the Air Force, the Sec of and the Chief of Staff. One for the several snafus of shipping nuke parts willy nilly around the country, and the other for a contracting scandal involving the Thunderbirds and an air show. And four of the six Joint Chiefs have been replaced in the last year.

Er, not that any of this has anything to do with military aircraft, about which I KNOW NOTHING (to quote Klink).

Posted by: Curmudgeon | June 5, 2008 4:41 PM | Report abuse

Don't forget Silly Walks and the Ministry thereof.

Posted by: yellojkt | June 5, 2008 4:43 PM | Report abuse

For the "beat the dead horse" analogy, I propose another horse metaphor: "closing the barn door after the horse is loose."

RD, we DO change the world by simply posting in the Boodle. Never doubt it. Although, as someone else pointed out, not by cut-and-pasting. Unless it leads to reading obscure goodies, such as this one comparing Lincoln's administration with the upcoming (I hope) one: ( reminding my friend that Lincoln placed Seward as S of State and suggested to her a similar role for Clinton, after which she send me this)
"Lincoln surprised not only his political opponents, he surprised the nation. He selected the best and the brightest, many of them individuals who he had just beaten. Chase, probably the strongest opponent, was asked to run the Treasury. This was an brilliant stroke by Lincoln."
Fascinating rotifer stuff, Wilbrod. Thanks.
The link to Nader depressed me. Obama as a corporatist? Now of course Nader disses everyone who does not champion the repeal of Taft Hartley. I too see this as a thing to be desired, but also see as on the cusp of being a Quixotic windmill. I wish it were not so.

The dogwood across the street, which flowered the first time this spring: RIP. Mowed or run over with car. I can't win.
These artist types, throwing away perfectly good woodchuck meat. Hmmph.

"Not Loomis"'s copy&paste from the Morning Show was astounding. It is what I believe. I suspect Bill was always a browbeater.

Never doubt there is a publication, somewhere, on almost every topic, TBG. My sister was amazed there's a trade publication for tree trimmers. Also I heard of a writer (not a mystery writer) who subscribed to an undertaker's trade mag, just so his world was not circumscribed.

Posted by: Jumper | June 5, 2008 4:50 PM | Report abuse

Thanks bc and *Tim.
When the idea that the spacecraft may be 'parked' at a Lagrange point entered my head I remembered that my understanding of Lagrange points had deteriorated from the explanation of them I had gleaned from a Larry Niven (again!) novel (I think there were floating trees). The problem was I was picturing a mass 'parked' at the point instead of oribiting it. You can imagine my confusion.
Thank Goodness for wiki.

Posted by: Boko999 | June 5, 2008 4:52 PM | Report abuse

One of the advantages of having an old fashioned answering machine is that I can remotely check whether our power is back on by phoning home. I did, and it isn't.

*sniffling dejectedly and thing of my newly-filled freezer*

Posted by: Raysmom | June 5, 2008 4:58 PM | Report abuse

One of the advantages of having an old fashioned answering machine is that I can remotely check whether our power is back on by phoning home. I did, and it isn't.

*sniffling dejectedly and thinking of my newly-filled freezer*

Posted by: Raysmom | June 5, 2008 4:58 PM | Report abuse

Stop that! Stop that, stop that....

It's far too silly.

Posted by: Kerric | June 5, 2008 4:59 PM | Report abuse

Silly report:

The penguins liked the fish (and the three nuns, but in a totally Platonic sense), but the three nuns were not happy at all about being stuffed into a barrel. I'm still not sure what I needed the propane torch for (maybe to get them out?).

In any case, I'm now in search of something else even sillier to do.

I wonder if FedEx would deliver an unwrapped rubber chicken...

Posted by: martooni | June 5, 2008 5:00 PM | Report abuse

I was the one that SAW NOTHIIIING!

Posted by: Sgt Schultz | June 5, 2008 5:02 PM | Report abuse


Posted by: Boko999 | June 5, 2008 5:10 PM | Report abuse

Sorry, Sergeant. I never actually watched the show.

Posted by: Curmudgeon | June 5, 2008 5:10 PM | Report abuse

Remember when I was complaining about freezing my butt off in the shop over the winter?

Well, those were good times.

Now it's 86F, humid as all get out, and I'm being attacked by yellow jackets (no relation to yellojkt, I'm sure). To top it off, the lacquer I use doesn't level well in hot/humid weather, so I'm going to have to thin it and do double coats.

At least when it's freezing you can add another layer or three of clothing. I doubt my neighbors want to see me sawing wood in a thong.

Posted by: martooni | June 5, 2008 5:13 PM | Report abuse

Grandpa didn't like Hogan's Heroes much. He didn't think POW camps were very funny.

Posted by: Boko999 | June 5, 2008 5:14 PM | Report abuse

*faxing martooni a whoopie cushion*

Posted by: Raysmom | June 5, 2008 5:14 PM | Report abuse

That was my objection, too, Boko.

Posted by: Curmudgeon | June 5, 2008 5:15 PM | Report abuse

Omni, that link is mesmerising. See if you can find the part where the little guys head comes off and is replaced. It could be like where is Waldo only sillier.

Posted by: dr | June 5, 2008 5:15 PM | Report abuse

Dude, even the docs in the ER don't want to see a wood-sawing injury in a thong.

Posted by: WIlbrod | June 5, 2008 5:17 PM | Report abuse

Martooni. If put a piece of tuna outside your workshop the lil devils may stay out there. If you freeze a can and just put out a little piece every day a can should last a month. Or get screens.

Posted by: Boko999 | June 5, 2008 5:22 PM | Report abuse

Hey everybody, we made it home. It was, oh, 75 and pleasant when we left Lost Wages, 95 and humid when we got to Charlotte.

Such an interesting discussion today. I'll have to go back and read in depth when I get some time. Gotta order pizza, as there is nothing in the house. Younger dottir is working on my new computer, older is due in about an hour. Thank heavens there is SOMETHING everyone in the family will eat.

Posted by: slyness | June 5, 2008 5:32 PM | Report abuse

I was thinking of my Brooklyn girlfriend and how she felt after the Equal Rights Amendment was torpedoed. I've neither seen nor communicated with her in 30 years but I'll bet she supported Sen. Clinton and ,if so, I'm sure she's feeling much the same way today.
Just sayin'.

Posted by: Boko999 | June 5, 2008 5:32 PM | Report abuse

Raysmom, can you get dry ice or bags of ice-ice to help it along?

Posted by: dbG | June 5, 2008 5:37 PM | Report abuse

Wilbrod... I thought of that, too. I had a friend who worked in an ER and would tell us all kinds of stories that gave "freak accident" a whole new meaning. I'll just sweat it out and try to keep all digits and other important parts intact.

Boko... never heard of the tuna trick, but I've tried a similar one by sticking a can of beer outside the door. Caught a lot of slugs with it, but I couldn't tell if it was helping to keep the yellow jackets away or just giving them a little extra "courage" to invade the shop.

I'm not allergic to them, so this isn't a life or death issue, but I *am* allergic to pain and those little buggers are capable of inflicting a great deal of it when crossed. I'm thinking I might sneak out there tonight after things cool down and just bug-bomb the place. The last thing I need is to lose a finger or thumb because a bee likes the smell of Irish Spring soap and thinks my beard would make a nice place to build a hive.

Posted by: martooni | June 5, 2008 5:37 PM | Report abuse

Oh, find their nest, Martooni, and bug-bomb THAT. We had yellow jackets that would move their nest around every year-- one year it was back of our shed, and one year they tried to build right under our front door's lamppost. We quickly knocked that nest down before they got started. One year they relocated to our neighbor's tree over their driveway (heh heh)

My dog developed a real hatred for wasps. However I never got stung by one in all those years, but then, I don't use Irish spring, and I stay clear once I see a nest.

They're far most likely to sting if you're too near to their nest, so that is priority number one to locate.

Posted by: Wilbrod | June 5, 2008 5:49 PM | Report abuse

Time to get the tomatoes in tomorrow!

Posted by: dbG | June 5, 2008 5:57 PM | Report abuse

I already planted some of those naughty boys today, dbG, along with some bell pepper plants.

Now to pray for a good growing season and that the green onions, spinach, lettuce, carrots, peppers, cucumbers, and tomatoes all come up as scheduled to.

Oh, and the basil. We have just had our first rhubarb harvest a few days ago, and chives have come back from last year.

Posted by: Wilbrod | June 5, 2008 6:01 PM | Report abuse

Rhubarb, thank you, Wilbrod! Gotta get rhubarb. I've got eatin' nasturtiums to get in too.

I've found covered-wagon-looking frames which will fit right over my raised bed gardens, am thinking of ordering some for the fall to see if I can extend the season or start earlier in the spring.

Posted by: dbG | June 5, 2008 6:14 PM | Report abuse

I remember my stepdad coming upstairs and waking us up at about 5 in the morning saying they'd shot Bobby Kennedy. I remember how, for a day, we wondered if he could survive the bullet wound. And then the funeral with all those kids at St. Patrick's Cathedral.

fyi, McCarthy after the assassination was never the same. He all but disappeared. He didn't get the nomination in part because, by that point, he didn't want it and had no stomach for any of it.

fyi, Bobby Kennedy Jr. is the subject of a new film by my friend Angus. It's gonna be really, really a smash, I think.

Posted by: Achenbach | June 5, 2008 6:17 PM | Report abuse

Trust me, Wilbrod... if I see any sign of a nest that bugger will be obliterated.

(note to self... check on fire insurance)

I don't think they've gotten a foothold yet -- these are more like scouts or explorers, mapping out the lay of the land, so to speak. Unfortunately, my shop has *lots* of nooks and crannies they might find hospitable to build a nest.

Maybe that's why the propane torch came up in my earlier silly plan.

Speaking of which, I still have three very angry nuns stuck in a barrel and -- don't ask me how -- they managed to find three wooden rulers and are waving them at me in a threatening manner.

I have no idea where the penguins got off to.

Posted by: martooni | June 5, 2008 6:17 PM | Report abuse

I think the penguins are on the telly, martooni, aren't they?

Posted by: TBG | June 5, 2008 6:20 PM | Report abuse

hey... if Khalid Sheik Mohammed wants to be a martyr, why is he pleading Not Guilty?

Posted by: TBG | June 5, 2008 6:22 PM | Report abuse

Obama's at Nissan Pavilian in Northern Virginia right now...

Posted by: TBG | June 5, 2008 6:29 PM | Report abuse

New kit.

Posted by: Jumper | June 5, 2008 6:49 PM | Report abuse

TBG... now why didn't I think to look there? Here I thought they went out for ice cream (to go with the fish).

Anybody want three angry nuns recently released from a barrel? They still have their wooden rulers, but I'm guessing a ninja could eliminate that problem.

bc's mentioning of Sea Monkeys made me remember I still had a few of those up in the attic.

Unfortunately, I had forgotten to change their water for a while -- probably not since 1970 -- so they've... well... mutated a bit. I told the nuns to run as quickly as one can run in a habit (after being whacked with their rulers for sins I can't remember). I also managed to get the penguins out the back door just in time.

Good thing I had my propane torch handy.

So it looks like we're having barbecued mutant brine shrimp tonight. Anyone have a good recipe for homemade cocktail sauce?

Posted by: martooni | June 5, 2008 6:50 PM | Report abuse

New kit

Posted by: km2b | June 5, 2008 6:53 PM | Report abuse

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