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We hiked up the mountain above Montreal, which is a gray, damp city on a river in Canada. We found a good second-hand bookstore and record shop -- "Cheap Thrills" -- with scary goth music playing. The thing about Canada is that it's really edgy.


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Dang, this city's bigger than I thought. And Frenchier.


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Now we're talking! "Biere froide and vins." Make mine very froide, please.


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When traveling, always stay at a place that advertises "Color TV." None of this black-and-white stuff when you're traveling in style.

By Joel Achenbach  |  August 3, 2008; 10:58 AM ET
 
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How was the rain, Joel? We heard about it from Shrieking Denizon. You two were likely traveling the same roads yesterday, I think.

Are you really there to cover the invasion?

Posted by: TBG | August 3, 2008 11:20 AM | Report abuse

I honeymooned in Montreal. One of the bed and breakfasts had a great room overlooking the Chateau Frontenac. I figured why pay twice and much to stay at the Frontenac when you can look at it instead.

Needless to say we have very fond memories of this very Frenchie Canucki city.

Posted by: yellojkt | August 3, 2008 11:20 AM | Report abuse

My memories are all blurring together. Chateau Frontenac is in Quebec City. In Montreal we stayed at the Queen Elizabeth. Is that still there? It was showing its age a little when we were there.

The highlight of Montreal was going through their tunnels and finding a Lego exhibit at one of the department stores. Bay Company, maybe?

Posted by: yellojkt | August 3, 2008 11:24 AM | Report abuse

Re-plug from last boodle. Maureen Dowd thinks Obama would make a fine Mr. Darcy. I did some photoshopping and I have to agree.

http://dowdreport.blogspot.com/2008/08/price-of-pride.html

Posted by: Mo MoDo | August 3, 2008 11:27 AM | Report abuse

Wait a gol dang minute here. Edgy? I'm pretty sure that Canada has never been described as edgy before. It has always seemed to me that we are squidgy rather than edgy.

But then I have not been to Montreal. I have been to Hull, and I can tell you it isn't edgy at all there. cozy and friendly is more like it.

Posted by: dr | August 3, 2008 12:03 PM | Report abuse

repost form last boodle

fish count
me 13
Randy 9
he caught the first fish so he won a dollar,I caught the biggest,but I didn't win anything except i just made a young mans day. It was a lot of fun as always

Posted by: greenwithenvy | August 3, 2008 12:38 PM | Report abuse

joel, be careful in that dangerous foreign territory.

love the photoshop, but that modo column is annoying. the analogy is strained and breaks down all over the place, imo. dowd is condescending to clinton supporters and women more generally. i think the article is just plain stupid. no offense to anyone who disagrees or likes modo. i like some of her columns, but this one bombs for attempting too much and not succeeding.

Posted by: L.A. lurker | August 3, 2008 12:39 PM | Report abuse

Waitaminnit, I thought Joel is on vacation and not blogging. What's the matter with him?

Great kit, tho.

Off to Lowe's, Mr. T is finally ready.

We know who waits for whom in this family.

Posted by: slyness | August 3, 2008 12:48 PM | Report abuse

'Morning, Boodle.

Read Joel's piece, and am slightly conflicted about it. On the one hand, I understand perfectly what he's saying, and understand and agree with the fundamental premise that global warming isn't to be blamed every time the sun goes behind a cloud. But on the other hand, I can quite easily understand why many people are (much too) quick to blame or invoke global warming. The reason? Because over the past decade, all our best pointy-headed scientists and science writers (certain fly-away-haired persons high on the list, along with a certain Nobel-Prize-winning former vice president/movie maker) had inundated, flooded and deluged us with story after article after story about global warming, about how it *really* is real, that the deniers and Bushies are wrong, wrong, wrong, that the ice caps ARE melting, that huge chunks are breaking off glaciers and you'll soon be able to sail your Hobie Cat from Barrow to Novasibirsk without spotting so much as an ice cube, that polar bears are endangered, penguins are losing their cute, movie-inspiring habitat, and that walruses are coming ashore in Barrow because the ice floes have disappeared.

So yeah, given the enormous deluge of material and discussion about global warming and how it is altering the entire planet and we're all headed for disaster...yeah, I understand why people may be a bit confused about how it really isn't responsible for making Hurricane Grizelda a Category five instead of a category four.

Joel, you guys can't cry "wolf" as often as you all have (rightly so, but that's irrelevant to the argument at hand; we need to worry about the wolves, I agree) without people from time to time mistaking German shepherds for wolves, yanno?

What you're saying is, "Yes, we've tried our best to scare the bejaysus out of you, but boy, you people are sure getting jumpy."

Well, yesssssssss...

Speaking of disasters, a while ago on her cooking show Ingrid Hoffman (who despite her name is, I think, Brazilian) was going to demonstrate how to make an authentic caipirinha, and I thought, Oh, boy, I gotta watch this. So while I was waiting for that segment I was cleaning up the kitchen (the stove, specifically, needed debriding after my daughter used it) and then I got distracted...and missed the segment. *sigh*

Posted by: Curmudgeon | August 3, 2008 12:48 PM | Report abuse

Touring McGill?

I would agree Montreal is very edgy.

dr I highly recommend a visit to both Montreal and Quebec City - nothing like Hull, I did find Hull quite spruced up from when I used to visit 20 years ago.

Growing up I always thought of Montreal as the cool city, Toronto was the bland, boring city - a lot has changed but I think Montreal still wins the cool factor.

Posted by: dmd | August 3, 2008 1:00 PM | Report abuse

(Pardon me for breaking out into all-caps, but you'll understand why in a minute.)

O.M.G. FOOTBALL SEASON STARTS TONIGHT!!!

My son just informed me the Redskins are playing the Colts at 8 p.m. on NBC tonight, some sort of Hall of Fame game or other at the NFL shrine in Canton, Ohio. The game itself, of course, is meaningless... but the point is, FOOTBALL SEASON HAS ARRIVED -- and it has totally snuck up on me. Usually we have all those semi-bogus scrimmages in August that mean nothing and no one cares about, and that gives me an entire months or more to get ready for The. Season.

But it starts tonight!! Right after 60 minutes.! I'm not ready! I've had NO time whatsoever to put on my game face. Why, it's like getting a phone call out of the blue that Evangeline Lilly is gonna come over in 20 minutes cuz she needs somebody to put suntan oil on her back. I mean, I'm just not mentally prepared, yanno? Ya gotta steal yourself for it, think about it, anticipate it, consider the alternative scenarios, how you're gonna deal with it. Prepare. There are some situations you don't wanna be plunged into blind, as it were.

And it's the Redskins, too. You non-Redskins-worshipping people won't give a crap, and that's OK, I understand your indifference (misguided tho' it may be). But know that I'm all verklempt.

Scotty, bc, were you aware of this?

This is a prime example of an intelligence failure. Less than 8 hours notice.

There will be repercussions. Trust me.

Posted by: Curmudgeon | August 3, 2008 1:07 PM | Report abuse

'Mudge, bc and I were just discussing tonight's par...

Ooops.

It was the Parthenon. That's what we were discussing. Yep. Nothing related to oblong spheroids.

Right, bc?

*hurridly running out to the lawn with the mower*

:-)

Posted by: Scottynuke | August 3, 2008 1:13 PM | Report abuse

I think I told you all a week ago,but bummer I have to work,so I can only catch a glimpse of it here and there. It should be fun though. Is there betting on preseason games too?

Posted by: greenwithenvy | August 3, 2008 1:37 PM | Report abuse

Mudge - I think you make a very profound observation. I'm just not sure where the blame lies. Is this bleed-over really because the scientists are deliberately trying to scare us, or is it that public opinion only has two settings - panic and apathy? I'm not sure. But, in any case, one of the reasons I value Joel's article so much is that it is an attempt to introduce some nuance into the discussion.

Posted by: RD Padouk | August 3, 2008 2:08 PM | Report abuse

Wait, why isn't that an ad for "Colour TV"

Posted by: RD Padouk | August 3, 2008 2:16 PM | Report abuse

Too funny if Joel's daughter and #1 ended up at the same school the same year.

Montreal can be edgy, although I think the rain haze makes it a bit more smudgy these days.

I felt really nostalgic looking at Joel's pictures. That is my old home.

#1 finally found a place to live, a rented condo just down the road from the hospital where she was born. More nostalgia.

Posted by: Yoki | August 3, 2008 2:46 PM | Report abuse

I personally am deeply grateful to Joel for taking us on vacation with him. As someone who won't be leaving on a vacation this summer I appreciate the chance to live vicariously through Joel's play as I did earlier when he was on the road for work.

Mudge, in this house our stock villain is global warming, responsible for everything from Extreme Weather Events to forgetting to feed the dog. It works really well and we all feel good about it.

I don't understand preseason football. Viewed from outside it appears to be a chance for rusty professional football players to get injuries which will prevent them from starting the regular season, and possibly end their careers. Of course, I don't understand in-season football either.

Yesterday and today the thermometer outside my kitchen window was 105 degrees by one p.m.

Posted by: Ivansmom | August 3, 2008 2:48 PM | Report abuse

Ivansmom, you understand preseason football just fine.

:-)

Posted by: Scottynuke | August 3, 2008 2:57 PM | Report abuse

You know, when you think about it... Canada IS on the edge of the U.S. That makes it edgy, doesn't it?

Posted by: TBG | August 3, 2008 3:17 PM | Report abuse

I would say that makes it contiguous, TBG...

But then I'm verbose like that.

:-)

Posted by: Scottynuke | August 3, 2008 3:27 PM | Report abuse

con·tig·u·ous (kn-tgy-s)
adj.
1. Sharing an edge

Posted by: Anonymous | August 3, 2008 3:37 PM | Report abuse

'Zactly. :-)

Hope Sneaks is avoiding the heavy weather delaying the Sox/A's game.

Posted by: Scottynuke | August 3, 2008 4:11 PM | Report abuse

For any Boodlers with a zoo nearby, you could get Happy...

Literally.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/08/02/AR2008080201169.html

*SIGH*

Posted by: Scottynuke | August 3, 2008 4:16 PM | Report abuse

Mudge. Mudge?
Are you paying attention?

How to make caipirinha coming up!
Mudge--YOUR ATTENTION, PLEEZE!

Agora vamos ter uma demonstracaon como faser uma boa caipirinha.

Use two limes per serving, quarter the limes. Take the pistle you keep in the kitchen and squish the limes in a measuring cup (or squish them with your paws or a nutcracker.

Keep the whole lime skin, pulp, everything in the container, add sugar (quite a lot), add cachaca and crushed ice. Voila! Serve to your enemies.

Footnote. When Arbusto visited Brazil he commented to his interpreter, "Funny Spanish they speak here."

Posted by: Brag | August 3, 2008 4:34 PM | Report abuse

Good morning, all.

I loved Joel's Outlook piece.

One of the beauties of Joel's writing is that he can take a topic that folks feel strongly about - Global Warming, the Federal Budget, etc. - presents facts from both sides of an argument about the topic, prods some independent thinking with liberal application of intelligent humor (as opposed to intelligent thinking with liberal humor), and leaves readers to themselves.

As usual, reader's preconceptions stand out in bold relief, as indicated by the article's comments. But rather than reconsidering their own positions, folks tend to use this kind of an opportunity for finger-pointing.

I agree with you, RD. This piece is an intellectual tour-de-force, mainly because it shows why all of those Big Problems we're facing in the 21st century - overpopulation, Global Warming, the end of the petroleum economy, etc. - are there to begin with.

The problem just might be *us*.
But as with anything, Heisenberg's lurking in the smallest things, and living with Uncertainty's not just fundamental, it's pretty much the answer to everything.

On a side note, I suspect Joel was in Montreal taking on the NASCAR Nationwide series race at Circuit Gilles Villenuve. Lots 'o fun seeing those guys race in the rain yesterday, and how great was it that Canadian Ron Fellows took the win on home soil?

Joel, how about some pics of those wonderful cathedrals up there, eh?

bc

Posted by: bc | August 3, 2008 4:45 PM | Report abuse

Whoops, perhaps you noticed that I started writing my comment about six hours ago and became sidetracked.

Mudge, I've been aware that the Washington NFL franchise was playing on tonight's game since, er, May, perhaps?

And I'd been making plans about viewing it at a local establishement for oh, about the past week.

The sleeper awakens, I suppose.

bc

Posted by: bc | August 3, 2008 4:51 PM | Report abuse

And yeah, Scottynuke -- we did discuss the game at one point or antother, didn't we?

bc

Posted by: bc | August 3, 2008 5:05 PM | Report abuse

SCC: "another."

Feh.
I can't even Boodlehog properly.

bc

Posted by: bc | August 3, 2008 5:06 PM | Report abuse

mudge, i'm fully confident that you are up to handling this. with or without one of brag's funny margaritas.

Posted by: L.A. lurker | August 3, 2008 5:16 PM | Report abuse

bc - didja brave the comments on Joel's article? Scary. And I am sure Joel knew going in that he was going to stir up trouble. Yet he wrote this piece honestly, fearlessly, and with the full power of his intellect. I mean, consider this phrase:


'Equivocation isn't a sign of cognitive weakness. Uncertainty is intrinsic to the scientific process, and sometimes you have to have the courage to stand up and say, "Maybe."'


It brings a manly tear to my eye.


Posted by: RD Padouk | August 3, 2008 5:32 PM | Report abuse

Mine too, RD, except for the "manly" part.

I finally had time to read the whole piece and I concur with all the accolades already pronounced. He's absolutely right about the backlash - remember one of my congressmen is Mr. Global Warming is a Hoax. Many of his constituents would prefer to believe him. During and after our big ice storm this winter, and every time there is a lot of snow, I hear numerous and bad jokes about global warming. Also, we have a vivid memory of the Dust Bowl here and, of course, that pre-dated Global Warming. I always wind up talking about Extreme Weather Events.

I still think it is handy to blame Global Warming for everything, including the burned toast, but I promise we'll confine this habit to the privacy of our own home.

Posted by: Ivansmom | August 3, 2008 5:47 PM | Report abuse

Hull is now pronounced gatineau.
Apparently francophones don't like boats.

Posted by: Boko999 | August 3, 2008 5:59 PM | Report abuse

RD and any other lagomorph types, I have a rabbit question. Beatrice has become very verbal lately. She's always used a vehemently annoyed grunt when we do something which thwarts or displeases her, but recently she's taken to grunting, in a friendly sort of way, as she larrups about the house. Just now she grunted at me after I fed her a yogurt drop (which she likes). I talk to her a lot while she's confined (when she is out the conversatio is usually "Where's the rabbit?" and "Don't eat that."). Do you suppose she's conversing?

Posted by: Ivansmom | August 3, 2008 6:06 PM | Report abuse

And we started to expect anonymous blog commenters to understand chaos theory, Mandelbrot, and Lorenz WHEN?

As we know, the butterfly effect is in effect even WITHOUT global climate change, so add in CO2 warming and watch the fun. Actually, some early chaos fans prompted the concept of the "flip" into the ice age, but it was always conjectural and now it looks like chaos isn't going to flip that way in any way, shape or form. In other words, it was a cute & neat idea but BZZZZT: sorry, wrong answer.

Right now a vast - VAST- invasion of borer beetles are literally eating my firewood. I project nothing left of a quarter cord but sawdust by November. I understand Lorenzian population dynamics enough to know that in any given year a pestilence of a species boom cannot be traced to anything BUT chaos, yet my inner unregenerate Newtonian mind, which always put off the three-body problem for later, is whispering "global warming!" at me. I am only grateful that I have been exposed to enough good science writing that my more global intellect can say back to myself, "Not so fast!"

Posted by: Jumper | August 3, 2008 6:08 PM | Report abuse

07 September 1940
Got a message that my new base is Lorient. Thank you, Admiral Doenitz, I just left there.

Had a productive week in the Gulf of Cadiz. Weather been benign enough. Sunk 6 ships with the deck gun (22.000 tons).

was watching the crew of a small freighter abandon ship when a British Bomber (a Hudson) from Gibraltar showed up.

A type IX U-boat dives with the speed of a lazy jelly fish. Machinegun bullets rattled on the casing and a bomb exploded some distance away. No one was hurt.

Churchill must be worried. We are winning the war hands down. :-)

Posted by: Brag at sea. | August 3, 2008 6:22 PM | Report abuse

Another literary icon is gone:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/08/03/AR2008080301249.html?hpid=topnews

Posted by: slyness | August 3, 2008 6:22 PM | Report abuse

Ivansmom - I think Beatrice is just playing. She is still a young bunny and is probably just having fun.

If a rabbit is really mad it will thump its foot. Hard.

Posted by: RD Padouk | August 3, 2008 6:22 PM | Report abuse

This last outburst was prompted by reading the comments section over at Joel's latest.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/08/01/AR2008080103014.html
I really don't understand how the Limbaugh's of the world can convince people that "scientists are really just Liberals." It's the most inane thing I have ever heard of. It's most decidedly untrue, and it shows that whoever says such has literally no acquaintance with any real "scientists" whatever.

Posted by: Jumper | August 3, 2008 6:29 PM | Report abuse

Thanks, RD. She hasn't thumped her foot at us yet. I always thought of rabbits as basically silent, which she often is, and was surprised when she began making all this noise. Of course she shakes her crate and moves stuff around in it all the time, but that is secondary noise.

Posted by: Ivansmom | August 3, 2008 6:29 PM | Report abuse

We used to be a lot edgyer until the Brits caved in and the Americans screwed us out of what is now laughingly called the Alaskan panhandle. All those lovely fiords, gone.
But we're not edgy now, no sir.
I haven't heard anyone up mention it in a good two, three weeks so you can see calmer heads have prevailed.
We're postively docile and pose no concievable threat to you now or in the furture. Please.

Posted by: Boko999 | August 3, 2008 6:46 PM | Report abuse

ya know, folders really are a whole lot better for organizing email than the labels in gmail. you put messages in folders because you want them *out* of your inbox. is that too much to ask?

sorry, been forced to use gmail for a very busy account i oversee for work.

Posted by: L.A. lurker | August 3, 2008 6:50 PM | Report abuse

My state seems to be shrinking, and it's all due to...er...global...you know.

Climate report forecasts smaller, hotter Maryland

By Timothy B. Wheeler and Frank D. Roylance

Sun reporters

August 3, 2008

Look for balmier winters and blistering summers in the decades to come. Enjoy the colorful fall foliage in Western Maryland - while you can. And unless circumstances change, prepare to see a different mix of plants, trees and birds by the end of the century, worsening dead zones in the Chesapeake Bay, and for the state that some call "America in miniature" to get dramatically smaller as rising waters push the shoreline inland.

So says a group of scientists who have compiled the first comprehensive assessment of how Maryland could be altered by global climate change.

For more: www.baltimoresun.com/news/local/bal-te.md.climate03aug03,0,3390747.story
baltimoresun.com

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"America in Miniature"? I had no idea. Lived here more than 30 years, never heard this.

Jumper, I think Limbaugh is hitting the oxycontin again. What a doucheb@g.

Thanks, Brag, but I already know how to make a caipirinha. I just wanted to see that episode, kind of as an act of worship.
Nice place, Lorient. Lots of concrete over the sub pens; unbombable from the air. Watch out for those Allied bombers, though-- they're gonna get much better.


Posted by: Curmudgeon | August 3, 2008 6:50 PM | Report abuse

I believe you, boko, sure I do. No invasion plans afoot, nosiree.

You don't want to invade Oklahoma right now. It is almost 6 pm and still over 100 degrees. When you first go out it is like walking into an oven. Then, especially if you're in the shade, you think it isn't so bad. Then you walk around for a few minutes and realize yes, it is. Don't even think about getting in a car - you'll be soaked with sweat before the air conditioner can kick in.

Maryland is a miniature America? I thought it was bigger than that. Or perhaps its status as Miniature America embiggens it, to borrow a classic phrase from the Simpsons.

Posted by: Ivansmom | August 3, 2008 6:57 PM | Report abuse

Mudge and Brag, I'm impressed with your ability to create those capybaras. But too many may cloud your judgment. Please don't let any small animals loose on the Boodle. I have my hands full with this rabbit, and she doesn't need reinforcements. Or minions.

Posted by: Ivansmom | August 3, 2008 7:16 PM | Report abuse

mudge,

I've heard the America in Miniature a lot. It's because Merlin has beaches AND mountains. A movie recently filmed here and the key feature was they could do location shooting for a cross-country chase flick for every clime except deserts.

Posted by: yellojkt | August 3, 2008 7:19 PM | Report abuse

Ivansmom, just one has been known to cloud my judgment.

Posted by: Curmudgeon | August 3, 2008 7:20 PM | Report abuse

l.a. lurker... I agree with you about the labels in Gmail. I don't like the "conversations" either. I find it too easy to reply to someone you don't really want to. And too easy to miss an email that finds itself arriving in the middle of a "conversation."

Just saw the Indiana Jones movie, fortunately at the "cheap" theatre RD and I were recently discussing. Wow. Talk about stretching it. I do like the new phrase that has come out of it... "nuking the fridge."

Of course now, with the Indiana Jones soundtrack running through my head, it's as if everything that's happening around the house is an adventure...

Da da da daaaaa.... Da da daaaaaa!

Posted by: TBG | August 3, 2008 7:24 PM | Report abuse

I have made an old man in my neighborhood happy. He walked by as I was mowing my lawn. He stopped me, to say, "I never thought that a girl would mow on the diagonal."

TeeHee: he thinks I am a mere slip of gal.

He said that seeing my lawn done up this way made him glad.

I told him that when I grow up I want to be a groundskeeper at a MLB park. I shall grow very large,Sicilian-escue sunflowers in drenched citrus shades on the edges of said lawns.

Off to swim.

Posted by: College Parkian | August 3, 2008 7:24 PM | Report abuse

tbg, i haven't figured out the conversations thing yet. i see the numbers by some messages, but i'm ignoring them. i did archive a few thousand messages, though, including the sent items that were in the inbox (fortunately labeled) because of how the emails were transferred from the previous account.

i should say something profound on the occasion of solzhenitsyn's passing, but alas, i've really got nothing to say. vaya con dios.

Posted by: L.A. lurker | August 3, 2008 7:41 PM | Report abuse

MLB is of course the Melbourne, Florida airport, which still has direct flights to BWI.

Someone should send up beach sunflower (Helianthus debilis) seed. A cultivated variety, "Key Lime Pie", comes from Thompson & Morgan.

Posted by: Dave of the Coonties | August 3, 2008 7:42 PM | Report abuse

Melbourne has direct flights to BWI?!

Man, when *I* was making the trip in the 60's, you had to change planes in Atlanta. Of course, that was when one wore Sunday best to fly (hat and white gloves included) and the dominant airline was Eastern.

Dave, those sunflowers sound yummy.

Posted by: slyness | August 3, 2008 7:51 PM | Report abuse

Think I'll put on Aqualung.
Thanks CP.

Posted by: Boko999 | August 3, 2008 7:53 PM | Report abuse

l.a. lurker.... if you're ignoring the little numbers next to the messages, then you're not reading all the emails.

Any replies to a message will appear in a "conversation" with that message. Those numbers represent the number of total messages (the original plus the replies).

Posted by: TBG | August 3, 2008 8:01 PM | Report abuse

Speaking of hopping bunnies, this video is really cute:

http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=LE9OXATfF0o

Don't ask me how I stumbled on it. It's a long story and involves Mary Worth.

Posted by: yellojkt | August 3, 2008 8:13 PM | Report abuse

So much for Sunday being a day of taking things easy. Mowed the MIL's lawn. Made a bunch of doors. Got my shipping ready for tomorrow. Came up with a new door design and made the prototype, took pics of it and listed it on my sales sites. And to top it all off, I even washed the dishes. I'm pooped.

mo... I have a surprise for you: http://www.mintd.com/products/show/7570-Goth-Vampire-Coffin-shaped-Fairy-Door

I'm thinking it's time for a good soak in the tub with a cold brew at my elbow.

Peace out :-)

Posted by: martooni | August 3, 2008 8:29 PM | Report abuse

Funny how "solzhenitsyn" stands out.

How sad.
That guy wrote about everything, from the collapse of people to the disintegration of armies and nations.

Posted by: Boko999 | August 3, 2008 8:44 PM | Report abuse

Martooni, that new door is way cool. Way.

Posted by: Curmudgeon | August 3, 2008 8:44 PM | Report abuse

S'nuke, just how do you get a person paid exclusively for animal care?

Some days I'm tempted to shop around for a new gnome, you know. Just as a bluff to keep standards high, eh?

"Supper's late again? By any chance, have you seen those resumes mailed to me today? I particularly like the ex-butler who jogs 20 miles a day...."

A dog can dream, right?


Posted by: Wilbrodog | August 3, 2008 8:44 PM | Report abuse

Martooni, that's very cute.

Ivansdad and the Boy just left for a tech rehearsal (Richard III, opening Thursday, for all you Boodlers eager to visit OKC for the opening). At 7:45 pm it is finally down to about 98 degrees. As they got in the car Ivansdad said, "This is ridiculous. Just because we do Shakespeare doesn't mean we have to do it on Venus."

Posted by: Ivansmom | August 3, 2008 8:47 PM | Report abuse

Ivansmom--My judgement been clouded for years. But I like to slurp a caipirinha or two.

When it comes to capivaras, they dance funny after one caipirinha.

Posted by: Brag | August 3, 2008 8:47 PM | Report abuse

tbg, i think i see what you mean, and it's confusing. i hope we can manage because there are like 10 people who monitor this email account.

martooni, i'm not goth, but the bat on the door is very cute.

Posted by: L.A. lurker | August 3, 2008 8:51 PM | Report abuse

I really enjoyed "a day in the life of Ivan Denisovich". He had a great day and even got the fish eye.

Posted by: greenwithenvy | August 3, 2008 8:52 PM | Report abuse

CP, I mow on the diagonal frequently - generally try to mow in a different direction each time and double mow when needed. Of course I have never been confused for a mere slip of a girl.

I also enjoyed Joel's climate change story, but was not brave enough to visit the comment. One of the first meetings I attended at my old job was a day long seminar on CO2 emissions had Joel been one of the speakers it would have needed some much needed life to that day.

I also worked for years for civil engineers and learned a little about storm sewer planning and 25 and fifty year storms. Over the last few years those rare events have become more frequent here this summer I believe I read we had had five such storms already this summer.

At home we are trying to make as many eco conversions as we can.

On our trip we passed a large wind farm that I did not know existed, they certainly stood out from the landscape but even at that I found them beautiful.

Posted by: dmd | August 3, 2008 8:53 PM | Report abuse

TBG - Hey , I almost went to that showing but the work on the deck took longer than I planned.

I guess we really should avoid these little inside conversations that make no sense to anyone else.

BTW - any thoughts on how that Chinese restaurant by The Outback compares with the one closer to me? I'm really interested in your thoughts on the Orange Chicken.

Posted by: RD Padouk | August 3, 2008 8:56 PM | Report abuse

knock knock
who's there?
bat
bat who?
batcha taste good!


FYI:
http://www.dnr.state.md.us/wildlife/bats/nhpbatintro.asp

Posted by: DNA Girl | August 3, 2008 9:02 PM | Report abuse

martooni - love that door!

Richard III - My Shakespeare is rusty, is that the "my kingdom for a horse" play? One of my favorite books is "The Daughter of Time", the Josephine Tey English detective story that refutes the Richard III as monstrous killer of the princes in the tower narrative. It's a great story, perfect for a summer read.

TBG - ooh, I wish I'd warned you about the Indiana Jones movie. Really bad, even with cheap tickets.

yello - I would love to hear the story that got you to that video. It was funny. But, Mary Worth???

I enjoyed JA's pics and commentary...always funny. I wouldn't dream of going anywhere near the comments on his global warming piece. Articulate and reasoned articles on hot button topics just bring out the worst of the worst!

Posted by: Kim | August 3, 2008 9:04 PM | Report abuse

Solshenitzin was a giant of his time. Against all odds, he helped create the cultural bridge between pre-revolutionary Russia and the Russia of today, which is trying to find its roots after the Bolshevik devastation.

Posted by: Brag | August 3, 2008 9:04 PM | Report abuse

Solzhenitsyn's Gulag Archipeligo was the first politically serious book I read. I read a lot of history but nothing modern. I don't remember much of it, but I remember being affected by it. Probably time for a reread.

Of course Boko, it is Gatineau. My bad. I should know this, but alas the memories of a Young Voyageur got in the way.

Posted by: dr | August 3, 2008 9:05 PM | Report abuse

Commenting w/o much backboodling as we just got home from visiting "S"'s daughter and family in NY state. We went to the Woodstock Museum and saw a Doo wop (sp?) show at Bethel Woods. The museum was interesting and there was a good short film of snips of the performances and voiceovers from some performers. I couldn't help wondering what a time traveling hippie from the original Woodstock would have to say about the whole experience, especially the gift shop selling love beads and tie dyed t-shirts for $30. A beautiful spot tho' in the middle of nowhere. The performing arts center puts our little version, now called the comcast center but forever known as Great Woods, to shame, especially the restroom facilities!

Scotty, we listened to the game Friday night until we drove out of range but did hear the 4 standing O's for Bay. He and the team seem to be doing nicely, I'm very happy for him. Manny who? And very happy that they caught that Rockerfella character, as both "S" and I feared that he would disappear forever with his daughter. It will be interesting to see if they can find out just who that guy really is, as his identity is very much in question.

Now to attempt to catch up in between loads of laundry and other neglected chores.

Posted by: Bad Sneakers | August 3, 2008 9:05 PM | Report abuse

Ah, but Brag, capybaras can't dance at all without any caipirinhas, and with two or more they're on Dancing With the Stars.

I meant "cool", martooni, "cool". Cute is too - well, cute.

I admire you folks who mow on the diagonal. If I can get the ecosystem cut at all I count it a victory.

I've always thought baseball groundskeeper would be a great job, but what I really envy are those guys in the heavy-duty tractor mowers who tend the highway and roadside verges. I told my dad once I wanted to do that for a summer job. He was not encouraging.

Posted by: Ivansmom | August 3, 2008 9:05 PM | Report abuse

Yellojkt.
YAY for the bunnies!

Posted by: Brag | August 3, 2008 9:11 PM | Report abuse

Martoony.

Knock, knock
Who's there?
Letta
Letta who?
Letta Mein

Had to say something about your great doors.

Posted by: Brag | August 3, 2008 9:14 PM | Report abuse

I read Joel's piece, and it was good, very good. Made me laugh too. I love the "heckva" job quote. It seems we're always looking for reasons concerning the destruction of our planet, but we never want to point the finger at ourselves. We are the ones destroying planet Earth, and we've been doing just that for a long time or as Joel's states, since man discovered fire. I'm not that familiar with global warming. I will leave that to the scientist, but I don't believe we can heap the cause of everything on global warming, just doesn't make sense. Yet I can understand why people make such an issue of global warming. We're constantly bombarded with information about global warming in the media, be it scientific or what someone thinks it should be. Are there really global warming experts? I don't think some of these folks know what they're talking about anyway. But I'm not one of those that don't believe in global warming, just limited in the knowledge of this beast.

Mudge, you had me in snitches about the football game. I used to love football, but since my son died, I can't seem to get into it. He and I looked at the games together. His favorite team was the Dallas Cowboys when he was in high school, and I used to give him so much grief about them.

The g-girl was at Sunday school this morning, and spent the day with me. She's with Mom now, so things are back to peaceful.

The pictures are so nice, JA. I've always wanted to go to Canada. I think the fact that the temps are cold is the lure for me. Probably wouldn't last a day there if the weather was cold.

Slyness, that's a lot of money for getting angry. I think we should probably blame the weather. You know, it is so hot.

Have a good evening, folks. Night, boodle. Sweet dreams.

Ivansmom, I need to go back and read the comment where the Boy asks you about having a big eye? I think I missed something. Tell the Boy and Ivansdad, I said hello.

Posted by: cassandra s | August 3, 2008 9:19 PM | Report abuse

In Mary Worth today, there was a reference to enormoushop.com. Somebody read that and registered it as a domain name and made a mock e-store filled with inside gags about Mary Worth.

http://enormoushop.com/

In the upper right there is a link that says "Looking for enormous-hop.com?" That link takes you to the bunny video. And sometimes I think I have too much time on my hands. Which I do. But obviously some people have more.

Posted by: yellojkt | August 3, 2008 9:30 PM | Report abuse

I read Ivansmom's "I admire you folks who mow on the diagonal" as "I admire you folks who ARE NOW on the diagonal."

I was puzzled, but then just figured it was just one of the many things on the Boodle I know nothing about.

So next time I want to sound cool, I'll just say, "Yeah... we're now on the diagonal. We feel it's very important to be on the diagonal, don't you?"

Posted by: TBG | August 3, 2008 9:43 PM | Report abuse

Hee hee, TBG.

Yes, Kim, and Richard III is also "now is the winter of our discontent". Alas, the costume director took this seriously, perhaps not noting the following "made glorious summer" and dismissing the whole thing as word pictures. Thus my family will be wearing fur and heavy cloth in this g*****n heat.

Here are the things I posted this morning, just about New Kit time as usual:

Quick off-topic (whatever it is) umbrage report. Catching up on my weekly WSJ reading I was struck by two articles. By far the most important was the Administration's attempt by rulemaking to define pregnancy so as to make birth controls pills and IUDs tantamount abortion (because they stop a fertilized egg from implanting). Dept. of Health and Human Services denies any attempt to discourage states and health plans from covering birth control, but one of the proponents of the rule admits that would be a great result. Where oh where is the umbrage??? Please tell me I just missed the front-page Times and Post stories on this outrage.

Less important is a "puff piece" wondering if our generally obese nation will vote for Obama, since he is so fit. Wait a second. Aren't these the same obese people who voted for W, notoriously fit candidate and President who bicycles and tries to keep to a daily White House workout? Geez.

AND, Cassandra,

The Boy just asked, "Mom, have you ever wanted to have just one big eye so your pupil could take everything in?" I had to admit that had never occurred to me. It's an interesting way of looking at things. So to speak.

Posted by: Ivansmom | August 3, 2008 9:48 PM | Report abuse

Mr. T mows on the diagonal. It's a farmer thing with him. I try, but I can't mow a straight line to save my life. So my lines are just wavy all over the yard.

;-)

Posted by: slyness | August 3, 2008 9:49 PM | Report abuse

The diagonalization of da Boodle?
Diagonalizers of the world, unite!
Diagonalizers look for one honest man.

Posted by: Brag | August 3, 2008 9:52 PM | Report abuse

Love Joel's "Global Warming" article.

We had a thunder storm sometime back. Bill boards got twisted. Trees got split. It's global warming, I tell you. It's crazy hot the past week. I planted a couple of cuttings (I think they are tecoma stans.) They are dry twigs sticking out from the ground, now. If that is not global warming, I don't know what is (never mind the fact that nothing I plant, grows.)

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/08/01/AR2008080102952.html

Good night to most of you guys. Now, I have to go see some annoying people.

Posted by: rainforest | August 3, 2008 9:58 PM | Report abuse

I'm with you in the umbrage dept., Ivansmom. I get really cranky when I read or hear some folks in the media yapping about whether or not we would want to drink a beer with Obama.
We're supposed to give credence to the idea that this is a legitimate criteria in deciding the next president when lots of folks decided that GWB, that man of the people, that good ol' boy from Texas was the kind of guy that we could join hoisting a cold one!? It fairly sets my teeth on edge.

Whew, I've got to go pour myself some chardonnay.

Posted by: Kim | August 3, 2008 10:00 PM | Report abuse

If mowing on the diagonal requires straight lines I must disqualify myself, tree roots and curved gardens prevent any more than a few moderately straight lines.

Posted by: dmd | August 3, 2008 10:02 PM | Report abuse

Have some tofu or quiche with that chardonnay, Kim.

(Tee hee)

We got HDTV back in March during the NCAA tournament, so we were able to see how great basketball looks in HD. Tonight's our first chance to watch football in HD. Looks pretty good!

But it's still time for bed. G'night Boodle.

Posted by: TBG | August 3, 2008 10:07 PM | Report abuse

and some arugula, kim.

Posted by: L.A. lurker | August 3, 2008 10:16 PM | Report abuse

We recently traveled around lake ontario stopping at Quebec, Montreal, Toronto and Niagra Falls just in time for 4th of July. I must say that the Old Quebec inside the fortifications is very tourist friendly. Unfortunately I found that Montreal was not as tourist friendly. The french are very arrogant and expect you to speak their language even if only youve been in the province a week. Nevermind that the government in Ottawa is anglo. Their subway system is great but the staff at the booth was very unsympathetic to us. Also on at least two occassions i was given American coins in change when i bought something. Ten years ago it would not have mattered but now that the dollar is down it seems very dishonest that some small business owners would act this way.

Posted by: Paul | August 3, 2008 10:26 PM | Report abuse

Buenos gnocchis, Boodle; fondue and vaya con queso.

Posted by: Ivansmom | August 3, 2008 10:30 PM | Report abuse

Day late, as far as the Kit topic.

Is attack art possibly art that makes one think, art that challenges one's sensibilities? An exhibit opening here by Seattle's Chris Jordan, who served as National Geographic's eco-ambassador for Earth Day 2008. His gallery exhibit here is today's lede story in our arts and entertainment section. First two grafs (the link to our newspaper article unfortunately shows but one of his photos--to see images from his body of work, use the link to his website that I inserted below):

http://www.mysanantonio.com/entertainment/Artists_images_chronicle_flagrant_consumption_chronic_waste.html

Stand back from Chris Jordan's photographs and the images swirl with rhythm and symmetry. Thousands of tints and shades converge to create vast textures and hypnotic patterns.

Take a step closer and other imagery comes into view. The swarming piece called "Handguns" (2007) reveals 29,569 guns, equal to the number of gun-related deaths recorded in the United States in 2004. The hundreds of floral pinwheels in "Barbie Dolls" (2008), which from a distance resemble a woman's breasts, are actually 22 naked Barbie dolls laid head to foot in a circle and duplicated over and over. The total number of Barbies in the photo, 32,000, is equal to the number of elective breast augmentation surgeries performed monthly in 2006.
***

Here's the link to his website. Click on any of the first three photos to get many more images. Katrina images are hard to look at, but then so are the ones of mass consumption...and waste:

http://www.chrisjordan.com/


Posted by: Loomis | August 3, 2008 10:32 PM | Report abuse

Paul sorry you had an unpleasant experience - but as to the coins we don't differentiate between Canadian and US coins. I think vending machines might be particular but that is about it.

I remember in high school a classmate asking the teacher why he couldn't cross the border and pay for something with a roll of coins - not realizing that our coins are not accepted as readily across the border, and also that it was a rather silly idea.

Also please keep in mind that many who speak french may have only a little knowledge of English - what may seem inconsiderate can be a language barrier.

Our federal government is bilingual not Anglo.

Posted by: dmd | August 3, 2008 10:35 PM | Report abuse

Kim, I've always thought "Daughter of Time" was one of the great classics, too.

Cassandra, any day I can make you laugh is a successful day in my book.

Game tied 16-16. We went swimming for a few hours this afternoon in our neighbors' pool, the relevance to football of which is that I unable to remain conscious for two minutes longer, and after all that chazzerai (great word; Google it if you have to) I have to go to bed.

Whups, Skins just scored. Colt Brennan just tossed a TD (don't ask, "Who?"). 23-16.

Jeez. Ya know the Colts have a guy named Pierre Garcon (too tired to put a dangley on the bottom of the "c" in Garcon)? Since when do frogs play football? I think if I was a football player I'd have trouble taking seriously a guy named Pierre Garcon lined up opposite me.

7 minutes 58 seconds to go. Can't. Make. It.

'Night, Boodlzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

Posted by: Curmudgeon | August 3, 2008 10:40 PM | Report abuse

dmd we went there around the time that Quebec was celebrating 400years if the French feel so strongly about their heritage and their culture why dont they go autonomous? To me if the capital is in Ottawa then you might as well be anglo. They even complained that Ottawa influenced the celebrations so that the autonomy issue wouldnt come front and center. Why beat around the bush if youre chaffing so much then leave.

Posted by: Paul | August 3, 2008 10:50 PM | Report abuse

Paul a little history would tell you it is a long story, and there have been referendums on leaving with extremely narrow margins.

A large percentage of the country are french speaking - hence the two languages (two main languages) other parts of the country have a profusion of languages from around the world.

In a completely disfunction family way we get by. Federal/provincial conflicts are very similar to DC/State issues - someone is always complaining.

Posted by: dmd | August 3, 2008 10:55 PM | Report abuse

I will look into the history a little more but it sounds to me that Canada is what the US could had been or could become, balkanized.

Posted by: Paul | August 3, 2008 11:07 PM | Report abuse

Not sure Paul, I grew up with Multicultralism/Bilingualism (yet still stumble on the spelling).

I personally find it a reason to celebrate I love what it brings to the country and find more good than bad. Many disagree - all comes down to perspective.

I think of us as of model of what can work not want doesn't work.

I shall now put down my flag and wish you all a good night - long weekend here!

Posted by: dmd | August 3, 2008 11:13 PM | Report abuse

Martooni, that's a door any evil fairy would be proud to own. I expect those will fly out of the shop faster than bats out of h***.

Do you still make those seashell doors whenever the ocean muse comes knocking?

You had a lovely blue scalloped door last year that seemed perfect for a friend who's obsessed with blue oceans.

Yellojkt, did I just see you link to one of the cutest bunny videos I've ever seen in my life? Excellent grand-twix jumping from those lagomorphs.

TBG. "Diagonal" makes me think of 2 things: chess bishops and The Outer Limits.

"We will control the horizontal. We will control the vertical. We can roll the image, make it flutter...."

I always thought whenever I heard this major control-freak ego trip monologue (major eye roll)...

Hey! You don't control the diagonal, do you? I know where I'm going to be...

Posted by: Wilbrod | August 3, 2008 11:39 PM | Report abuse

Paul needs to learn a LOT more about the history of French in the Americas, the failed seige of Quebec during the Revolutionary war, why half of the major places on the Mississippi river have french names, and how the "Louisana Purchase" was possible.

My grandma grew up speaking French and learned English in school. Because of separationist sentiments, universal education in English has not been possible for a lot of Quebeçois.

Think of how some people here have the attitude that English is the only language anybody should learn as an American, and anybody can grasp that "balkinization" also exists in The USA.

Truthfully, I think everybody that is able to learn a foreign language should be educated in one as fully as possible. Our future diplomats, CIA, and FBI personnel need fluent speakers of many languages.

Monolingualism is not the normal or healthy state of humanity, as evidenced by the millions of people that grow up speaking more than one language.

Right now, more Chinese speak English than Americans. They may not speak it as well or as fluently, but they do speak it.... and they also are fluent in Chinese.

So, why hasn't Paul learned, say Spanish, Portuguese, or another language or developed the necessary skills to communicate with somebody who doesn't speak his language? Huh? Who's stuck in the Balkans here?

Posted by: Wilbrod | August 4, 2008 12:00 AM | Report abuse

As matter of fact i do speak Spanish and i did take a course in high school in German(2years) and i was stationed in Okinawa for a year long enough to say "Biru o kudasai!". I dont have a problem with Monolingualism i think we should all learn Spanish, Arabic and Mandarin. But when you come to a country that has no language to serve as a bridge between cultures that invites chaos. You want speak french at home great, or you want to speak spanish at home great but learn English. Even the chinese who have many dialects in their large country have only one script. There has to be something that binds a nation together.

Posted by: Paul | August 4, 2008 12:30 AM | Report abuse

Yesterday, I stopped at a roadside stall to see if there were any tapioca (cassava) roots for sale. There weren't any but there were sweet potatoes and purple too. Purple ones are difficult to find. I was tired of the normal orange and yellow ones, so when I saw the purple sweet potatoes, I went mad and bought enough for 5 people when I only feed myself. Very few farmers plant purple ones and the only white ones I've seen were those planted by my mother long ago. I had one for breakfast this morning and nearly choked because it's very dry unlike the orange and yellow.

I almost bought a big chunk of jackfruit and thought better of it since I'll be visiting my sister in a couple of days. I like jackfruit. I only have problem with its sticky sap that sticks on your fingers and knife. The only way I know how to get rid of the sticky sap is wiping your hands and knife with kerosene.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_fruit

Posted by: rainforest | August 4, 2008 2:16 AM | Report abuse

Mudge - you won't get that "who?" question about Colt Brennan in my neck of the woods. He's a hero around here. Looks like he went 9 for 10 tonight. Hope things pan out for him with the Redskins.

I'm sure the Boodle is fast asleep now.

Posted by: Aloha | August 4, 2008 2:18 AM | Report abuse

The Boodle never sleeps, Aloha!

Posted by: dbG | August 4, 2008 4:12 AM | Report abuse

Martooni, 2 words. Santa's Elves. Don't they deserve a door shaped like a present or a toy?

I like the addition of the windows.

Posted by: dbG | August 4, 2008 4:24 AM | Report abuse

Vacation:Montreal.One of the "finest" cities in North America.Being American,and knowing "nothing about Canada"----did you bring your skis? Must have been "surprised" that we Canadians,weren't living in igloos?

Posted by: TED DICKIE | August 4, 2008 5:35 AM | Report abuse

Vacation:Montreal.One of the "finest" cities in North America.Being American,and knowing "nothing about Canada"----did you bring your skis? Must have been "surprised" that we Canadians,weren't living in igloos?

Posted by: TED DICKIE | August 4, 2008 5:35 AM | Report abuse

Vacation:Montreal.One of the "finest" cities in North America.Being American,and knowing "nothing about Canada"----did you bring your skis? Must have been "surprised" that we Canadians,weren't living in igloos?

Posted by: TED DICKIE | August 4, 2008 5:35 AM | Report abuse

Vacation:Montreal.One of the "finest" cities in North America.Being American,and knowing "nothing about Canada"----did you bring your skis? Must have been "surprised" that we Canadians,weren't living in igloos?

Posted by: TED DICKIE | August 4, 2008 5:36 AM | Report abuse

Vacation:Montreal.One of the "finest" cities in North America.Being American,and knowing "nothing about Canada"----did you bring your skis? Must have been "surprised" that we Canadians,weren't living in igloos?

Posted by: TED DICKIE | August 4, 2008 5:36 AM | Report abuse

God loves us so much more than we can imagine through Him that died for all, Jesus Christ.

Morning, morning, friends. I want to go back to bed, I'm still very sleepy. I think I could stay in bed all day, but must get dressed. Today is a work day. And, alas, it is MONDAY!

Mudge, I laugh at your writing all the time. You are one funny guy. One of these days, I'm going to show up at a bph, and get to meet you, and the other boodlers here.

Slyness, Martooni, Scotty, Monday is calling and you need to answer. Morning all.*waving*

I haven't talked to my sister in awhile, so I'm going to try and catch her this morning. It is promising to be very hot this week, temps in the upper 90's. The kids will have to stay inside. No kickball or dodgeball.

Loomis, I see the weather is getting bad in your area, take care.

Have a great day, folks. Check on the elderly. Time for me to swim.

Posted by: cassandra s | August 4, 2008 5:46 AM | Report abuse

'Morning, Boodle.

Ted, I'm impressed. I thought the Flying Triple Entendre was tough, but you managed to pull off a Drive-By Penta-Post (though you didn't exactly nail the landing). A suggestion: try the decaf.

Oh, and by the way, Ted, we Muricans aren't so dumb we think all you Canucks live in igloos. We know you move to the sod huts during the summer months. (Except for Sergeant Preston, who lives in a log cabin.) So there.

Whoever updates the WaPo op-ed links on the home page must have slept in this morning: yesterday's links are still up, led by some dude complaining about the weather. However, I gotta ask: what the hell is going on in China? 16 police killed in a some sort of raid? Apparently they have Muslim extremists (and terrorists) astride the Silk Road 2,000 miles west of Beijing.

OK, time to get a move on. Cassandra's up; Scotty, you movin' yet? Yello? Brag?

Posted by: Curmudgeon | August 4, 2008 6:08 AM | Report abuse

charmant

They spelt color TV wrong.

Posted by: Don de Dieu | August 4, 2008 6:17 AM | Report abuse

Mornin' all...

I hear it, Cassandra (Monday calling, that is). I tried to put my fingers in my ears and cover my head with the pillow, but then it started poking me.

I feel a Boomtown Rats song coming on... "Tell me why I don't like Mondays, I want to shoo-oo-oo-oo-oo-oot the whole day down..."

Thanks for the kind words on the new design everybody. I do prefer "cool" to "cute", but I'll take "cute" over "that stinks" anyday. Wilbrod... I still make the blue shell door -- just let me know. dbG... Noel doors are on the drawing table -- three of them, actually. One for the sugar plum fairies, one for Santa's elves and one for the big guy himself. I'd like to do some "Nightmare Before Christmas" inspired ones, but there's all that copyright business that gets in the way.

Anyway... the percolator just finished percolatin', so I'm off for coffee and the morning news before I wade into the sawdust.

Peace out... :-)

Posted by: martooni | August 4, 2008 6:53 AM | Report abuse

Thanks for the link, Loomis.

Rainforest, I had to throw up or leave the house when mom cut jackfruit back home. Indeed I'm feeling queasy right now. But that could just be a Monday morning thing.

Indian stores sell jackfruit chips (fried in coconut oil), if you wish to check out this atrocity of a fruit without going the whole hog. Of course some people (like DNA Guy) would give anything to eat it everyday (mutants!).

Posted by: DNA Girl | August 4, 2008 7:19 AM | Report abuse

Doing a snap roll recklessly close to the ground, then. waggling wings at rest of the Boodle. Will make the dogs in the Observatory Kennels duck in fear. Woohoooo!

Posted by: Brag | August 4, 2008 7:25 AM | Report abuse

Just my luck, I missed THE Canadian kit. Missed Joel too, ships crossing into the night and all that.
Note how green the Mont Royal (Mont Réal in the old spelling) vegetation is. It has been raining pretty much every other day or even more.
The new Gatineau is 60km (36 miles) long, so us locals still refer to Aylmer, Hull, Gatineau, Masson, etc. Otherwise you could have road signd pointing to 4 different directions all labelled Gatineau.
If someone goes to the 400th of Quebec city, do not miss the show projected on the grain elevators, it is fantastic.
And Paul should get out a little more.

Posted by: shrieking denizen | August 4, 2008 7:25 AM | Report abuse

Yep, 'Mudge, I'm here. I think.

Good news on the FIL front... Out of surgery and recovering. Yay! :-)

Busy work week ahead, many folks taking a vacation. That time o' year around here, no?

*doing-three-things-at-once-but-still-managing-to-sip-my-Diet-Pepsi Grover waves*

:-)

Posted by: Scottynuke | August 4, 2008 7:45 AM | Report abuse

I'm up, Cassandra, in fact I got up early and have already made a trip to the airport and am back home again! Geekdottir is going to Houston to meet with clients, I had to take her. She is NOT a morning person but she got up and going pleasantly. And on a Monday! I am grateful for large favors.

Now it's walk time, so I'll get that over before the heat settles in for the day. Hopefully I'll have enough energy later to clean house and run errands.

Posted by: slyness | August 4, 2008 7:47 AM | Report abuse

Glad that I flushed out the other diagonal mowing crew members. Next up: who cuts their sandwiches on the diagonal? We might form a Hypotenuse Club, in our spare time.

And, for the record, said gentlemen is in his high nineties, so I do appear to be a slip of a girl. He walks with quite a crook, so I guess he now notices lawn-mowing patterns and other down-low details.

Sad news last night: a two-year old was hit and killed on Route One near my neighborhood. Driver fled. Sad. Sad. Sad. The angry drivers diverted into our baffle of one-way streets and dead-ends were very rude and angry, speeding and braking and cursing up and down the streets. Our dog walking brigade helped those we could and stepped out of the way of those intense and important people who thrive on getting there first.

Posted by: College Parkian | August 4, 2008 8:15 AM | Report abuse

Happy Holiday!!
While you poor people are running around, overheating we lucky folk are observing our civics during the annual Civic Holiday (where observed). No flags or prayers or gifts, just glorious sloth.

Posted by: Boko999 | August 4, 2008 8:25 AM | Report abuse

CP, I am not by nature a diagonal grass-mower, though I like the look. My wife often asks for the diagonal cut, but if I'm the one cutting, I just wanna get the job over with (and our lawn pattern is very complicated, and diagonal cutting is nearly impossible). My son (who usually cuts) will cut diagonally if he's in the mood.

However, I *am* a diagonal sandwich cutter; absolutely a mandatory cut on grilled cheese sandwiches (they taste significantly different and inferior if cut rectangularly). A ham-and-swiss on rye isn't a full diagonal, but just a slight bias cut, kind of like wearing your hat cocked jauntily over one eye. Also I like a slight bias cut on 12-inch hoagies, cheese steaks, etc. (whether cut into two, three or four sections) Also *must* cut French/Italian/foccacia breads on the diagonal, especially when making bruschetta, toasted (with sprinkled parmesan or other cheese, Salad Supreme, and/or paprika) to accompany spaghetti/meatballs, etc.

OK, here's a pronounciation survey. All my life, my family, everyone I know, and I myself always pronounce the word pa-PREE-ka. On the TV cooking shows lately, I hear a few saying it PAP-rih-kuh, which is an abomination to mine ear. What say all of you?

Posted by: Curmudgeon | August 4, 2008 8:54 AM | Report abuse

Morning Boodle! Happy Civic Day!

One of our favorite trips took us to Montreal and we found it to be an incredibly welcoming and friendly city. We couldn't open a map on the street without folks stopping to ask if they could help.

One woman actually stayed on the subway an extra stop to get out and show us how to get to our destination.

We found absolutely no arrogance in Montreal. When people saw that we didn't speak French, they spoke English (those who could) or found someone who could translate for us.

Traveling through the province of Quebec is like being in a European USA. The KFCs are PFKs and the STOP signs say ARRÊT.

(And let's not forget the Esso stations all over Canada; first time I saw one I thought I'd traveled back to my childhood).

Posted by: TBG | August 4, 2008 8:58 AM | Report abuse

SCC: Happy Civic HOLIday!

Posted by: TBG | August 4, 2008 9:02 AM | Report abuse

Mudge, I've always pronounced it Pap-reek-uh, but bear in mind that where I grew up, a creek was "crick," empire (as in a high-waisted dress) was "EM-pire," and days of the week tended to end in "dee" vs. "day."

Posted by: Raysmom | August 4, 2008 9:03 AM | Report abuse

It's pa-PREE-ka at my house, Mudge.

How about peony? I grew up with PE-o-ny but I've heard others say pe-ON-y. I really should buy some for the yard, they are so beautiful for the short time they bloom.

Posted by: slyness | August 4, 2008 9:04 AM | Report abuse

pa-PREE-ka is a Philly thing, Mudge. :-( Except in paprekash.

Posted by: dbG | August 4, 2008 9:05 AM | Report abuse

I think pa-PREE-ka is the way most Americans pronounce it, isn't it? Not just a Philly thing.

(This discussion makes me think of the NPR reporter Snigdha Prakash, whose melodious name sounds like Snick Paprikash.)

Posted by: TBG | August 4, 2008 9:12 AM | Report abuse

Guess there's something to be said for Dawn Patrol. That's really sumpthin' that Cassandra knows about Tropical Storm Edouard before I do! *l*

First, have a 101-temp. day to get through today. We're supposed to be on the "dry side of the storm," but that doesn't mean we're going to be dry. I can't wait for more rain! Chris Jordan is scheduled to speak about his intriguing photos Wednesday night at Municipal Auditorium, but now I'll have to wait to see how wet the day is before I decide to hop in the car and go hear his lecture. Chris Jordan info provided in my previous post. I think the state is hardly finished with cleaning up after Dolly.

Interesting to read that Solzhenitsyn received his Nobel prize in 1970. Do you realize those Nobel prizes are an outgrowth of the Nobel family's former dominance of the Russian oil industry? When Ludwig Nobel died, a newspaper ran the wrong obit--one for Alfred. When Alfred read his own life and the nasty words printed about the effects of dynamite on humanity, he became distressed. Shortly thereafter, Alfred Nobel began work to establish the endowments that would become the Nobel prizes. (For a fuller recounting of the tale, see Daniel Yergin's "The Prize.")

http://nobelprize.org/alfred_nobel/biographical/articles/life-work/russia.html

http://www.scienceandsociety.co.uk/results.asp?image=10421392

Posted by: Loomis | August 4, 2008 9:13 AM | Report abuse

*sigh* All this talk of Canuckistan is making me long for a vacation up there. My family visited for a few days or a week back when I was 10, and haven't been there since. Half a century is just too d@mn long to have waited. I'd love to do a Montreal-to-Quebec tour, with a side trip to the Ridout Canal area, staying in little mom-and-pop motels offering free color TV. Need to go back to the 1,000 Islands again, too (was there to give a lecture on antique boats 20 years ago). Maybe next summer.

Just got too many things on my bucket list. But need to move Canada up a lot higher. Always admired the place (from afar) -- and that was before I knew anybody up there. And know I've got so many Canucki friends... well, there's just no excuse not to go take a road trip. Have always wanted to see Quebec and the Plains of Abraham, ever since I read a kid's mystery story set in Quebec when I was about 10 or 12.

Posted by: Curmudgeon | August 4, 2008 9:13 AM | Report abuse

I say pa-PREE-ka as well but I had a hungarian friend who said pap-rih-kah, and since she used it in conjunction with the chicken parprikash she was cooking I had no complaints - the meal was delicious.

Beautiful Civic Day here - Joseph Brant day in our town. There are festivities but we are staying around the house doing last chores before going back to work and having friends for lunch and a swim. Our first warm, dry and sunny weekend all at once - Joy. (this year). Seems like the heat is moving in though already warm and quite humid not quite as comfortable as the last two.

Our grade 11 French trip was to Quebec City, the first referendum on separation was just a few weeks away. Even with that I found the locals very friendly to what were probably obnoxious anglo teens. That trip I watched the sunrise with some friends from outside the Chateau Frontenac - still remember it clearly.

Posted by: dmd | August 4, 2008 9:16 AM | Report abuse

The Rockefellers..again...just another Standard Oil company in one of its guises.

Standard Oil of New Jersey...circa 1930 (some say '29, others say '31), it sold oil products under the trade name of Esso, which is derived from the abbreviation of Standard Oil (S.O.).

http://www.exxonmobil.com/Benelux-English/About/Bnl_HS_ES_OneStandard_new.asp

Posted by: Loomis | August 4, 2008 9:20 AM | Report abuse

I confess to not knowing very much at all about Joseph Brant (despite what I thought was a pretty comprehensive reading of that period), and so looked up his Wikipedia entry, and am nothing short of astonished. Here is the entry; it is fascinating. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_Brant

In particular, this would make a dynamite HBO mini-series (there's just no way this story could possibly be told in a single movie). But here's something even more astonishing: at the bottom of the Wiki entry, look at the bibliography. There doesn't appear to be as much as one single biography written about the man, except for what appears to be one written in 1838. All the information appears to come from articles and books on other, larger or general topics.

This man needs a full-blown McCullough-quality bio. Now. (If I were writing it, I'd druther write a novelized version or screenplay, rather than a biography, since I was touched by his several marriages and the loss of his wives due to various illness, as well as his many children. [Hopeless Romantic that I am.] However, a central problem for any biographer or screenwriter has just *got* to be Brant's attitude toward and ownership of many slaves, both white and black {and, I would speculate, some Indian as well, though not specifically mentioned).

But that's one heckuva story, and it's just sitting there. Amazing.

Posted by: Curmudgeon | August 4, 2008 10:14 AM | Report abuse

Good morning, all.

The only thing I've ever read of Solzhenitsyn's was the three-volume "Gulag," and it was tough to get through, even when I had a lot of time.

The translation I read was curiously unaffecting to me, unfortnately. As great an impact as "Gulag" had on the Soviet Union, I think I might read some of his other works in order to reconsider my opinion of his writing in its own merits(which ain't all that).

Mudge, I was cheering Colt Brennan on last night because I'm a fan of the Hawaii football program, and I was glad Washington drafted him. He looked good against the Colts d late in the game, though most of the guys in blue at that point will probably be turning their playbooks in before your birthday (ahem). I remember Timmy Chang, too.

bc

Posted by: bc | August 4, 2008 10:14 AM | Report abuse

You don't have Esso stations any more? Here the brand is owned by Imperial Oil (a home-grown) which the other tenant in the office building I work in. They have the lower 28 floors, and we have the top 6.

When riding the elevator, you can always tell the oil guys from the law guys by wardrobe. They - khakis and polo shirts, we - suits and ties. There is a big difference in the number of professional women in the oil patch in just the last 10 years; very cool.

Posted by: Yoki | August 4, 2008 10:19 AM | Report abuse

I know, bc, but I am incredibly conflicted about the Skins' QBs. They have Brennan, Jason Campbell...and Todd Collins, who I thought was outstanding in relief last year. I want all three of them. And I know that's an impossibility. It's like having to choose between Evangeline Lilly, Natalie Wood...and...uh...Evangeline Lilly. No one should be put through a decision like that.

Posted by: Curmudgeon | August 4, 2008 10:21 AM | Report abuse

Yoki... all of our Esso stations became Exxon stations back in the early 1970s. I hadn't seen an Esso station since then until we first visited Canada in 1999.

Posted by: TBG | August 4, 2008 10:24 AM | Report abuse

Growing up we always went to Conoco Stations.

However, we loved the Texaco Song! We loved the Esso tiger-in-your-tank promo...and the promotional tail affixed to your radio antenna.

(Tires fixed for free; maps galore for free; jellyglasses, green stamps, pony-zed coke in glass bottles. The service station was a fine place for children back in the day.)

But I loved driving with my Kansas grandfather whose brand loyalties were with Mobile. I LOVED THE PEGASUS ICON, even before reading Edith Hamilton's Mythology.

On football, I got nuttin'. Sorry guys. However, I never interview with the viewing of that. Simply prefer live soccer, which is trully the most authentic football.

(Ducking for cover; they will pelt me with flowers and not tomatoes, because the boodle is kind with its censuring rituals.)

Posted by: College Parkian | August 4, 2008 10:33 AM | Report abuse

No, Yoki, no Esso stations anymore. A couple decades ago, Esso (in the U.S.) changed its name to Exxon (which indeed was traumatic for all us people who had the ubiquitous Esso road maps in our car glove compartments), which was/is a stupid name. And a few years ago it merged with Mobil, to become Exxon-Mobile.

Posted by: Curmudgeon | August 4, 2008 10:33 AM | Report abuse

CP... you were supposed to put that tiger's tail so that it hung out of the door to your gas tank. A tiger in your tank. I thought that was so clever (well.. I was, like, 7 years old or something).

Posted by: TBG | August 4, 2008 10:37 AM | Report abuse

*pelting CP with daisies and rose petals -- fired at 200 mph*

Posted by: Curmudgeon | August 4, 2008 10:39 AM | Report abuse

* but aiming to avoid the ribs*

Posted by: Curmudgeon | August 4, 2008 10:41 AM | Report abuse

TBG...oh my goodness. My neighbors, the McNaughtens and MaGregors (yes, that is the spelling!) put it around their antennae.

Is the the country mouse/city mouse theme at work?

Texaco ear worm at full bore....
thanks, Mudge, for your gentleness. I deserve tomatoes and to never be invited to a BPH again, given the football-faithful here.

Posted by: College Parkian | August 4, 2008 10:45 AM | Report abuse

Howdy! PapReeka, Mudge, rules here. Also, I cut the Boy's sandwiches on the diagonal but often cut Ivansdad's straight, to distinguish the two. My natural bent is diagonal. We're on the diagonal here . . .

Loomis, I'd take that tropical storm for some rain. We're supposed to end our 100 plus streak sometime this week and I'll be glad to see a nice cool ninety degrees.

I'm glad Paul has shared his experiences with us. It can be very disconcerting to visit a country you thought was English-speaking and find that it is not. Paul, you'll have noticed lots of Haute Mainers here. It has given us Lower Canuckistanis a different and better perspective on the country.

Ivansdad and I honeymooned in Ontario, at the Stratford Shakespeare Festival. The countryside was lovely though the farms had remarkably fragrant cows. Stratford was very nice - no cows in town. We went to a great county fair in some small town on the nearest Great Lake. It was lots of fun, even with the occasional cow ambience on the road.

Posted by: Ivansmom | August 4, 2008 10:50 AM | Report abuse

CP, TBG: The "tiger in your tank" promo tail worked better back in the days when most cars had their filler neck and gas cap located behind the license plate on/around the rear bumper. [Remember spring-loaded license plate frames?]

And Mudge, I agree that Collins was good in Saunders' system, but with Zorn's new regime and new philosophy, I don't see him lasting more than another season here. I think they should put Brennan on the taxi squad for this season, and let him compete to be #2 next year.

I'd be tempted to tinker with Brennan's throwing motion this year anyway, see if he can bring that semi-sidearm motion up a bit to get throws over the big NFL d-lines with their arms up. As we know from last year, having QBs look for passing lanes through lines rather than over is asking for trouble (e.g. interceptions) in the 4th quarter.

Mudge, did you see the Colts put former Giants' king-size QB Jared Lorenzen towards the end of the game?

bc

Posted by: bc | August 4, 2008 10:55 AM | Report abuse

Oh, CP, CP, CP, you will always be welcome at BPHs, you know that, despite your football apostasy. After all, I've been married for nearly 26 years to a woman who hates Richard Pryor. Really. Astonishing, I know. We are all deeply flawed creatures (except for Evangeline Lilly) but must love and forgive each other anyway. (Except for Ann Coulter.)

Posted by: Curmudgeon | August 4, 2008 10:56 AM | Report abuse

CP, you are always welcome at any BPH I attend. American Style Football only if Philly is having a good season.

Jumper, here is that promised link: http://www.biblegateway.com/

There are 20 English versions along with many more foreign language versions.

Posted by: omni | August 4, 2008 10:58 AM | Report abuse

I know, bc, Brennan's semi-sidearm bothers the heck out of me, too. He seems to get away with it -- but it is just too high-risk for my tastes (yours, too, methinks).

I just love Lorenzen -- a role model and hero for us waistline-challenged folks everywhere. Loved William "The Fridge" Perry for that, too.

Posted by: Curmudgeon | August 4, 2008 11:02 AM | Report abuse

Ivansmom... someday we'll all be on the diagonal.. and we'll all be better off for it.

I cut my sandwiches like Mudge... grilled cheese on the diagonal and subs etc on the slight diagonal. But PB&J always straight cut... two rectangles on the plate. With a big glass of milk. MMMmmmm.

This isn't going to lead us back into a discussion of mayonnaise, is it?

Posted by: TBG | August 4, 2008 11:03 AM | Report abuse

My mother taught me that mayonnaise on hamburgers was communist. Mayonnaise on PBJ is an abomination before the Lord.

Not that I feel strongly about it.

Remember, diagonals may zig. Or zag.

Posted by: Ivansmom | August 4, 2008 11:09 AM | Report abuse

No, TBG, all further mayonnaise discussion is frowned upon. However, your mention of the glass of milk with the PBJ raises two at least FOUR topics ripe for discussion (and you already know what they are):

1) smooth versus chunky (correct answer: smooth)

2) Skippy versus Peter Pan (correct answer: Peter Pan)

3) kind of jelly: grape (standard), raspberry, etc. (no correct answer on this one)

4) Milk: the complexities and nuances of the seemingly simple binary choice: white milk or chocolate? Clearly, white milk with a PBJ and with Oreos (mandatory) and most other cookies.
a) But under what circumstances is chocolate milk the correct answer?
b) The myriad of choices: Bosco? Nestle's? Yoo-Hoo? Dairy-bought/mixed?

Discuss.

Posted by: Curmudgeon | August 4, 2008 11:11 AM | Report abuse

Whaddabout mayo on french fries, Ivansmom?

And diagonals are good for tangents, yanno.

Where IS Tangent, anyway?

:-)

Posted by: Scottynuke | August 4, 2008 11:12 AM | Report abuse

People cut sandwiches? Really? Why?

(JUST KIDDING!!)

I don't eat a lot of sandwiches, being a salad kinda gal, but I will slice a BLT on the diagonal. Otherwise, I don't bother to cut them at all.

Posted by: slyness | August 4, 2008 11:20 AM | Report abuse

Smooth Peter Pan is only used to fool dogs into taking pill they don't like.

Posted by: bh | August 4, 2008 11:20 AM | Report abuse

As a teenager I often made sandwiches composed of peanut butter and vanilla ice cream.

I'm not proud of this. But gosh they were good.

Posted by: RD Padouk | August 4, 2008 11:32 AM | Report abuse

Chocolate milk with PB&J? Are you insane? White milk calms down the sweetness of the J and clears out the stickiness of the PB. Simple as that. Chocolate would be too sweet.

But.. also good with PB&J and milk.. potato chips. Utz regulars.

Posted by: TBG | August 4, 2008 11:33 AM | Report abuse

I wonder what kind of PB&J they're using in Fairfax County...

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/08/03/AR2008080302039.html?hpid=topnews

:-O

Posted by: Scottynuke | August 4, 2008 11:33 AM | Report abuse

PB and dill pickles... mmmmm.... (Vlasic, of course)

Posted by: martooni | August 4, 2008 11:39 AM | Report abuse

Hard to make up stories like this.

Pickup thief loses truck to carjacker

Monday, August 4, 2008

(08-04) 05:21 PDT Salinas, CA (AP) --

A pickup truck thief lost his purloined Chevy Silverado to an armed carjacker during a 7-Eleven stop.

Police Cmdr. Kelly McMillin says "you couldn't make up something stranger than this."

Thirty-three-year-old Edward Bishop told police he stole the pickup Saturday then, while sitting outside a convenience store, a man with a gun hopped in and ordered him to start driving.

The pickup ran out of gas and the gunman ordered Bishop to get out and push, but Bishop ran away and called police.

Police spotted the pickup on Sunday and 34-year-old Jomo Sexton was arrested after a brief chase and crash.

___

Information from: The Salinas Californian, www.californianonline.com

Posted by: bh | August 4, 2008 11:43 AM | Report abuse

Peanut butter was, and is, a staple of mine. As a child my father introduced me to his favorite sandwich: Peanut Butter and Butter. Yep, fat on fat.

In addition to the peanut butter and ice cream sandwiches I enjoyed as a teen (look, at the time I was a little under 5 foot 8 and 120 pounds) I also grooved on sandwiches made with my mom's famous raspberry freezer jam. Which, if left frozen, made a refreshing summertime treat. Since raspberries were practically free where I lived, she used to produce several gallons each summer. Which we would easily consume by early the next spring.

My mother used to purchase nothing but all-natural chunky peanut butter with no preservatives. We used to keep in in the refrigerator to prevent it from separating, otherwise you had to stir it up as if it were highly viscous paint. I still have sympathetic pain in my arm whenever we walk by the stuff in the grocery store. Plus those enormous chunks of all-natural peanuts could be surprisingly painful when jammed between the teeth.


Perhaps this is why today I prefer creamy peanut butter chock full of tasty emulsifiers.

Posted by: RD Padouk | August 4, 2008 11:48 AM | Report abuse

Mayo on pommes frittes is the way to go. Ketchup is too overpowering.

MMMM. Might cook a chicken PAPrikash for tonight and the rest of the week.

Posted by: Brag | August 4, 2008 11:51 AM | Report abuse

I just, foolishly, revisited the comments on Joel's article. Now I have no appetite for my tasty PB&J.

Has anyone ever seen that carnival game where you throw a ball onto a table full of dimples? The ball bounces around but always settles into one of the dimples. It never sits anywhere else. I think many people have minds like that.

Posted by: RD Padouk | August 4, 2008 11:58 AM | Report abuse

I don't have time to Wiki or fact check it, but I thought this was how Rockefeller's Standard Oil was broken up:

Standard Oil of New Jersey -> Eastern Seaboard Standard Oil (Esso) -> Exxon

Standard Oil of Indiana -> American Oil Company -> Amoco

Standard Oil of California -> Chevron

There may have been more Baby Standards, but these are the ones I'm aware of.

And like the Baby Bells and their erstwhile competitors, they seem to be re-aglomorating like a T-1000.

Posted by: yellojkt | August 4, 2008 12:05 PM | Report abuse

1) smooth versus chunky: Chunky
2) Skippy versus Peter Pan: Peter Pan
3) kind of jelly: Mom's homemade strawberry--otherwise, I'll have a bologna sandwich instead
4) Milk: none. I don't like that film it leaves in my mouth.

Sandwich cutting: Diagonal on square bread; vertical for roundy-top bread (so you don't end up with the less-desireable roundy crust entirely on one half of the sandwich).

French fry topping: Until they make one that doesn't make the fries soggy--none.

Should we expend to the dark vs. milk chocolate debate?

Posted by: Raysmom | August 4, 2008 12:18 PM | Report abuse

My mother ate PBJ with margarine (which she called butter). I'd never heard of PB & vanilla ice cream, RD, but it sounds tasty.

These days I only get Braum's chocolate milk, oh-so-smooth and creamy, and their skim milk which actually has body and tastes like milk. I pity those of you without a Braum's dairy store close at hand. Chocolate milk is too rich for consumption with food.

I never visit the comments. It scares me. I see too little impulse control and too much sloppy thinking in the course of my job; no need to drop in on it for fun.

Posted by: Ivansmom | August 4, 2008 12:24 PM | Report abuse

PB and dark chocolate on vanilla ice cream, no bread necessary. Although the raspberry freezer jam sounds delish too.

Posted by: dbG | August 4, 2008 12:39 PM | Report abuse

Raysmom, you raise a good point about the milk film after-effect. And milk HAS to be cold. If it warms up even slightly, forget it.

Two more variables for discussion:

1) sandwiches with crust versus crust removed (a.k.a. the weenie version; my little brother, always a picky eater, needed his crusts removed. I always mocked, disdained and ridiculed him for this, possibly traumatizing him for life, but so what: I was right and he was a weenie).

2) Standard white bread versus all the variants: I would posit that white bread is acceptable in only five and a half applications:

a) grilled cheese sandwiches (though others acceptable)
b) BLTs and Club sandwiches, though other variants (i.e. wheat) can be substituted to good effect
c) toasted, underneath creamed dried beef (I love creamed dried beef)
d) untoasted, under hot roast beef/turkey sandwiches
e) toasted, with jelly, etc., at breakfast, esp. with eggs

and the partial application: French toast, although challah and many other breads are usual much better.

All other sandwiches ought to be wheat, rye, pumpernickel, artisanal, etc.

Putting pastrami, corned beef, roast beef or ham on white bread (and abominably worse, with mayo) are anathema; as Ivansmom's mom rightly pointed out, an abomination before God.

Posted by: Curmudgeon | August 4, 2008 12:41 PM | Report abuse

When I went to Oxford for a month's study after my freshman year in college, one of the items only served once was PB and butter. Didn't go over well at all with the Southern kids on the trip.

The first morning we were there, the refectory (that's what they called it!) served hot baked beans on toast. Apparently that's a popular breakfast item in the UK. Again, didn't go over well. That summer was the first time I ever saw sprouts. I don't remember what kind they were.

British institutional food, what can I say. Their shepherd's pie was pretty good, but I distinctly remember being underwhelmed by it all. Sometimes my buddies and I would run out after supper to the local fish'n'chips joint and then to the local Chinese place. The latter had chilled Cokes, a real treat.

Posted by: slyness | August 4, 2008 12:41 PM | Report abuse

A fabulous example of stupidity in gummint: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/08/03/AR2008080302039.html?hpid=topnews

Fairfax County is installing security cameras in high school cafeterias because of food thieves -- rotten, dirty high school students who are sneaking unpaid-for food from the cafeterias.

(1) Anyone who is so hard-up for food that he is stealing SCHOOL CAFETERIA food, should just be allowed to have it.

(2) The camera systems won't cost much money. However, the manpower to monitor the cameras will cost a substantial amount. Maybe not $1.2 million, but probably more than a tenth of that amount. Is it really worth the cost, the procurement effort, and the intrusiveness?

(3) The article mentions that Fairfax County's school budget had a $150 million shortfall last year. I understand the credo that "every little bit helps", but this is an exceedingly small bit, only about 0.7% of the shortfall. I wouldn't be surprised if the cost of the accounting for the theft exceeded the value of the theft itself.

Of course, one wants to avoid teaching the principle that "crime pays." However, these are high school students. I think that they already have their ethics sorted out, for right or wrong. Probably it would be better to establish policies of greater liberality in vending food so that the same activity no longer is defined as "stealing."

Posted by: ScienceTim | August 4, 2008 12:43 PM | Report abuse

What about strawberry milk? :-)

Posted by: Scottynuke | August 4, 2008 12:43 PM | Report abuse

I was really going to stay off the blog while Joel was on vacation (pause while everybody thinks to themselves, yeah, sure...)

But if Joel can't keep his resolution, than I'm sure not gonna be overly strict with myself.

However, I can't hang out today because I have "JURY DUTY" -- I'd like to tell you all about it but I'm sworn to secrecy. It's our lunch break and I hiked over to the library to see what's new on the internets.

Hope everybody has a great day...

Posted by: kbertocci | August 4, 2008 12:46 PM | Report abuse

Ingrid is Columbian Mudge. Right hemisphere, right continent. Just a little bit north and west.

Did you know that the Food Network contacted her the day after she appeared on Martha Stewart.

Posted by: omni | August 4, 2008 12:46 PM | Report abuse

Mudge, I have another acceptable white bread application: underneath a poached egg (using corners of it to dip into the runny yolk). Although in a pinch, wheat bread will do.

Posted by: Raysmom | August 4, 2008 12:50 PM | Report abuse

Been listening to Obama's speech on energy from Lansing, Michigan, broadcast by CNN. Admit that I was somewhat entranced. Obama called for oil companies who have leases on 26 million acres of land to either drill on that acreage or lose those leases. I think it would be fascinating for a newspaper of record to create a graphic showing what states in the U.S. are involved and what companies hold those leases. Obama also called for a tax credit of $7,000 for each individual who buys a far more energy-efficient hybrid vehicle, which would truly help out the unemployment numbers in Michigan.

A pundit on MSNBC called Obama's speech "comprehensive." Obama calls for a green future and I hope the speech gets lots of coverage, given the important, future-oriented topics Obama covered.

There is an interesting oil "genealogy" chart in Matthew Yeoman's 2004 book, "Oil: An Industry." As I must for most genealogies, I must pull out my reading glasses for the increased magnification. On page 4, the chart's title is "Sons of Standard Oil: The Supermajor Family Tree." I'll provide only the antecedents and today's surviving members and bypass the intermediaries.

Antecedents (though not all are S.O.s, but the others merged with S.O.s): Socony (Standard Oil of New York), Vacuum, Standard Oil of New Jersey, Standard Oil of Louisiana, Socal (Standard Oil of California), Standard Oil of Kentucky, Atlantic Refining, Waters Pierce, Standard Oil of Indiana, Standard Oil of Nebraska, Standard Oil of Ohio, South Penn Oil Company.

Present-day members: Exxon Mobil, Chevron Texaco, BPAmoco, Royal Dutch Shell.

Only caught Obama's speech becaue I wanted an early lunch. We were running around yesterday, with an important stop at Bass Pro Shop to buy long-sleeved shirts for my husband with highest-possible UV protection, UV 50. We would not have known that such clothing is in the marketplace, if we hadn't caught the last segment of Brian William's Friday evening news broadcast. It truly was news we could use. Thanks, Brian.

Posted by: Loomis | August 4, 2008 12:57 PM | Report abuse

Tim, I read about the cafeteria surveillance and just shook my head. Is the idea that the presence of the cameras will reduce the theft? Will they review the footage after the fact or real time? And, if real time, will they have a SWAT team standing by to nab the offender? ("You! Hold it right there! Stop eating those fries!")

Regarding the degree of the theft, and the potential savings, let's do some basic math. There are 196 schools in the Fairfax County system and approximately 200 school days per year. The $1.2M of theft amounts to $30 per day per school. Hardly an epidemic.

Posted by: Raysmom | August 4, 2008 1:06 PM | Report abuse

Cheese strata & sausage stuffing also seem to require white bread, although the new white wheat breads would also work.

Posted by: dbG | August 4, 2008 1:18 PM | Report abuse

I dunno, I have mixed feelings about that cafeteria thing. I' not too concerned about the money lost, or the expense to install/monitor the anti-theft, nor am I too concerned about punishing the malefactors. The number that jumped out at me was that about 120% of students admit to stealing food at one time or another. (I think I'd like to see some mean, media, average, number of times-type data, though.) I think that number (if accurate) is kinda high, and I'd worry about it. Even if the cost of monitoring only breaks even with the cost of stolen food, it sill might be worth doing on moral grounds. (as a matter of long-settled policy, we NEVER consider the cost of detection and prosecution in criminal cases, nor should we). I don't see how this is very different. (Now, I don't want SWAT teams and draconian measures and all that nonsense.)

Tim says that kids have their moral compasses developed by this time (whatever time that is); I'm not so sure I agree. But even if I did, are their compasses not amenable to some course correction? Even if it was a futile gesture, I'm not comfortable with just saying "fuggedaboutit." I think I'm OK with the school system making some sort of statement and effort (if it doesn't go overboard, which I agree is a valid concern as well).

I suppose there is some element of poverty-induced theft, but I'm not at all satisfied that is the "reason' beyond it in many, many cases. And even if it was, is it OK to say, "well, it's OK to steal food if you're poor; we just don't want middle-class and upper-class kids doing it." No, I don't like that one bit. I think the "poor/disadvantaged" aspect needs to be removed from the calculus. If there is a poverty component to it (and I'm sure there is some of it), then turning a blind eye to theft isn't the right way to deal with it. We don't tolerate that approach in adult society; why should we allow it in the school system? It is clearly the wrong message to send.

Posted by: Curmudgeon | August 4, 2008 1:28 PM | Report abuse

SCC: 10 percent, not 120 percent. Jeez, fingers, gimme some help here.

Posted by: Curmudgeon | August 4, 2008 1:30 PM | Report abuse

If the food is stolen by a kid eligible for free or reduced meals, does the bear in the woods need to steal the toilet paper if no one hears it?

Or something like that.

Posted by: yellojkt | August 4, 2008 1:31 PM | Report abuse

I wonder if the $1.2 million is the retail price or the subsidized price. Stuff in the cafeteria line is CHEAP. I'm embarrassed to say that my daughter's school is on that list.

But that said, the bigger problem is the kids stealing each others' account numbers. My daughter had about $80 worth of food charged to her account before we got wise to it. The money was reimbursed... from where I don't know. The principal told me they never caught the kids who were stealing HER number, but that the problem is rampant.

Sometimes kids give away their number (mine swears she didn't), other times a teacher has posted the kids' student ID numbers somewhere (that's their lunch money ID too!), but in one case the problem was simply this: one kid's number was one shy of another's. So when Kid #2 punched in his number (let's say 123456), it charged 12345 before he'd even punched in the 6, thus charging the lunch to Kid#1's account. How stupid is that?

But surveillance is only as good as the people who are running it. No lunch number is supposed to work twice in one day. That's pretty simple, no? That way, if a kid has already purchased lunch, his number won't work again. If it wasn't him the first time, he can prove he is the rightful owner of that number and the number can be tagged from then on.

Posted by: TBG | August 4, 2008 1:33 PM | Report abuse

I'm not saying they should turn a blind eye to the theft. But why video monitoring, particularly when it's unlikely to catch the account theft TBG describes?

Posted by: Raysmom | August 4, 2008 1:45 PM | Report abuse

Afternoon all,geesh it was just morning a little while ago.I did some yard work for my party next weekend and layed in the hammock for what was supposed to be a few minutes and fell asleep for 2 hours.I was awakened by that woodpecker.

Growing up as kids we always had a brown bag lunch. Although i do remember a couple of lunch boxes here and there. My mom would always search for the strangest bags she could, super long bags that you would have to roll out,wide fat bags,Italian bread bags,you name it .The wierder it was,the cooler it was.

Posted by: greenwithenvy | August 4, 2008 1:51 PM | Report abuse

TBG, that kind of variable digital number is stupid. It should always be 012345 vs 123456... don't people know anything about data entry?

Curmudgeon, I agree on two things: 1) Paul has never heard of Belgium or looked at a map of France when Canada was being settled. There's a reason why "lingua franca" exists.

2) Teens' moral compasses are always open to improvement; their major problem at this age is impulsivity and temptation/peer pressure, and lack of ability to discipline themselves according to what they know is right/wrong.

I remember a boy telling me, and this guy was on parole for assault, talking about how he grew out of stealing stuff because he now had some pocket money and he felt he should be more grown up about property issues. He also quit cocaine use because his girlfriend disapproved. He wasn't the brightest bulb out there, and his temper has issues, but he was redefining his behavior in moral terms day by day at age 17. I don't think his moral growth was done. I have no idea if he ever learned to manage his temper enough to avoid assault charges ever again.

School lunches.. well, back in my day, I got an allowance for my lunch money, I was attending a good HS with lots of rich kids. But due to limited lunch time and long lines, I usually wound up buying some food from a vending machine that wouldn't have counted as a healthy meal one year. My friend at lunch almost never bought lunch either; we barely saw each other-- no classes in common, and we'd rather talk.

I just had no time or desire to wait 15 minutes in line, scarf down lunch in 10, and run to class right after.

I'm wondering, are kids stealing food simply because it saves time? In that case, cameras won't work as well as adding 15 minutes to lunch breaks or speeding up food checkouts would.

Just IMO. If we're supposed to eat slowly and savor our food and all that for best satiety and digestion, why are we forcing our teenagers to eat lunch in 10 minutes like starving dogs? I've never been able to break that habit of bolting my food since.


Posted by: Wilbrod | August 4, 2008 1:59 PM | Report abuse

That's cool, GWE.

I had a lunchbox with nuclear submarines on it. It's was a boy's box. IIRC, I got it for my 8th birthday from my parents. WHAT were they thinking? Along about the 4th grade, the handle broke and my mom had a leather strap put on it. I carried it through the 6th grade but I sure enough ditched it before junior high. A terrible thing to saddle a poor girl with...

Posted by: slyness | August 4, 2008 2:01 PM | Report abuse

Catching back up on the Boodling.

I was raised with chunky Skippy peanut butter on white with Welch's grape jelly, but I'll gladly eat smooth Peter Pan or even cashew butter on wheat, even bagels, Thomas's English Muffins or (oh, my) a good potato bread, and any kind of jelly, jam or preserves.
No peanut butter and Fluf, though, thanks (shudder).

For chocolate milk, I prefer making my own from whole milk and Hershey's choc syrup, but, I can do with Nestle's Quik, Ovaltine in skim milk, or even a Yoo-Hoo.

I saw that piece on the cafeteria surveillance, and wonder what they're going to find.
And how far we're away from surveillance cameras in the kids' bathroom stalls.

Sheesh.

bc

Posted by: bc | August 4, 2008 2:09 PM | Report abuse

" don't people know anything about data entry?"

If by "people," Wilbrod, you mean "7th and 8th graders" (and those are the people in this case), the answer is clearly "no."

But really... how should they know how many zeros to add to their ID number? How would they know all the numbers aren't the same length?

Posted by: TBG | August 4, 2008 2:12 PM | Report abuse

It is so hot here, one almost "swoons" trying to walk outside. I could not get inside fast enough. I'm not sure about the word "swoon", at least not the spelling.

Anyone tried mayo on sardines? I tried it, and it didn't taste too bad. Not an eye pleaser for sure. Of course, you folks might not eat sardines?

This is the last week for the Center. I didn't realize the time was up.

I read on the news that Morgan Freeman was in an accident and he is in serious condition. Also saw People magazine this morning at the grocery store with the picture of the twins.

Bananas(?) and peanut butter(smooth), delicious. And a BLT is the best sandwich in the world. No cutting please. I love the tomato. All this talk of food, time to find some lunch.

Posted by: cassandra s | August 4, 2008 2:12 PM | Report abuse

Brown baggy hammock
makes for weird super long dreams
Now I feel peckish

Posted by: Anonymous | August 4, 2008 2:18 PM | Report abuse

Wilbrod, I think you have me confused with a different Boodler; I don't remember commenting on anything Paul-related.

Now here's a story I find *really* fascinating: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/08/03/AR2008080301280.html?hpid=topnews

Basically it deals with the grieving process, and how it appears 10 to 20 percent of people (women, according to the study) grieve "differently" and more extensively than the rest of the population, often for years and often to a disabling extent, which they call "complicated grief" as opposed to normal grief. Here's an interesting graph:

"Because the nucleus accumbens [portion of the brain that lights up in those with CG] is involved in anticipating a reward, this might explain why people suffering complex grief are unable to move on, O'Connor and others suspect."

One of my questions would be, does the same phenomenon occur in other kinds of grief beside grieving for deceased people; what about grieving for lost loves, divorces, that kind of thing? (I'll bet my last dollar it does, and for basically the same reason.) Some people are just totally unable to "move on"; I've suspected for a long time this is because there is some sort of built-in satisfaction from it (what the researchers call "reward"). CP, Yoki, this ringing any bells from some of our discussions?

I need to go back and re-read Elisabeth Kubler-Ross. Too bad she's dead; we could use her input here. EK-R posited the grief process (the famous five stages) also applies to many non-death-related things such as divorce, job loss, drug addiction, "buyer's remorse," infertility, and many others. But she also posited that people don't necessarily go through all five (but two minimum). Wonder what she said about failure to complete the process.

Posted by: Curmudgeon | August 4, 2008 2:20 PM | Report abuse

Mmmm... Cassandra.. you just brought back a delightful memory of summertime sandwiches at my parents' house..

Wheat toast, mayo, a tall pile of crisp iceberg lettuce, a slice of American cheese and a thick slice of freshly picked tomato straight from the garden... still a little warm from the sun.

I'm smiling just thinking about 'em (the sandwiches and my parents). Thanks.

Posted by: TBG | August 4, 2008 2:24 PM | Report abuse

Brace yourselfs: I don't like pb with sweet spreads.

I like pb thusly:

white bread with smooth emulsified IGA-brand with center-cut custom bacon. Really. OR

wheat/oat bread ('spensive type) toasted, with natural chunky pb plus very sharp chedda.

Number 2: it's what's for lunch.

Posted by: College Parkian | August 4, 2008 2:25 PM | Report abuse

I agree that enforcement of the law shouldn't be based on cost. However, at some point, you have to address priorities. A shop-keeper is not a law-enforcer, he's a businessman, and it makes no sense to spend $5 to save $1. As a law-enforcement matter, it should be out of the hands of the school board, which is the shop-keeper of this metaphor. As a teaching issue, I think I would come up with some liberalization of the sales policy that would enable a student to do the same darned thing he's already doing, but we don't call it theft. Saves us the effort of pursuing and prosecuting, saves the student from developing a cavalier attitude about theft.

I concur with TBG that the best approach to avoid theft from fellow-students' meal-plan accounts is a self-correcting system, something that brings attention to cases in which there is something wrong. One of my concerns about the Fairfax approach is that it inures students to the intrusive nature of perpetual surveillance. This is one one the most pernicious aspects of our modern security-culture -- we have totally embraced Big Brother, in fact we have demanded it. I hate it. I hate the notion of being under constant scrutiny. It almost motivates me to defy the surveillance and do whatever it is supposed to stop, just to raise my finger to the system.

Almost.

Posted by: PlainTim | August 4, 2008 2:28 PM | Report abuse

Nobel-price winning Tom Schelling (former prof of mine) loves peanut butter.

Here is a story about pb and crackers figuring into his Schelling Point idea:

http://cafehayek.typepad.com/hayek/2005/05/schellings_poin.html

When Schelling won the Nobel for Economics, UMCP tried to name a sandwich in his honor. The creation consists of

toasted cinnamon-raisen swirl bread (two three slices)
and creamy pb and grape jelly in one half of the decker, with
chunky pb and grape jelly in the other half.

Will have to email a friend of John Mather's to determine his pb preferences.

Posted by: College Parkian | August 4, 2008 2:36 PM | Report abuse

Mudge, my apologies, that was Shrieking Denizen's comment. He of all people should know.

Posted by: Wilbrod | August 4, 2008 2:44 PM | Report abuse

Can I gripe about something totally non-Boodle (or Kit) related?

For years I have suspected that local TV morning news anchor on Channel 4 is an idiot who only reads what's put in front of her and couldn't tell you anything about what she'd just read.

This morning, my suspicions were confirmed. She kept calling the Ft Detrick scientist who is suspected in the anthrax mailings Bruce Irvins. IRVINS. His name is Ivins.. no R. The reporters would say "Ivins" and the dimwit kept saying "Irvins."

She's gotten to where she can't even READ the news, much less process or understand it. You should see her when she loses her place.. it's hilarious.

OK.. thanks for letting me get that terrible weight off my shoulders.

Posted by: TBG | August 4, 2008 2:44 PM | Report abuse

My middle school was a DoDDS run school in the Philippines with no cafeteria. Lunch was strictly brown bag with a thatched roof picnic area available. Usually we just sat in the breezeways and ate. All typical rules of social self-segregation applied. I did make our housekeeper cook me a hamburger when I got home at about 2 pm to tide me over until dinner.

In high school, we had split sessions and I was in class from 7 am to 1 pm straight with no break. I usually ate two fun-sized snicker bars about 10 am to make it through the day. That 11-1 AP Chemistry class was tough from both a hunger and fatigue standpoint.

At that decidedly middle-class school, nobody that wasn't getting it for free stayed around for lunch. The cafeteria was just a big open atrium study hall.

I would go home after school and microwave frozen leftovers. Manicotti was a frequent choice. My mom would make extra and freeze them in three packs.

In a way, not eating lunch at school is a family tradition. As I boodled awhile ago, last year my son just grabbed something every day between school and his internship.

Posted by: yellojkt | August 4, 2008 2:47 PM | Report abuse

I remember once asking a friend what exactly is it in tuna salad, egg salad potato salad, etc. that makes it 'salad'. He said Mayonnaise. So I said 'If I were to put mayonnaise on PB&J I'd have a PB&J Salad sandwich?' He was not amused.

The only unusual thing I've ever had on PB&J came about as a result of that conversation. Onions, believe it or not. Oddly enough it was at all bad.

Posted by: omni | August 4, 2008 2:49 PM | Report abuse

My father was and is a big fan of PBJ sandwiches. He would travel TDY with a jar of peanut butter (creamy only). The working theory was that white bread and jelly are universally available but peanut butter is iffy at best. We keep peanut butter in our cupboard strictly for his visits.

Posted by: yellojkt | August 4, 2008 2:51 PM | Report abuse

D@mmit, TBG, you know how we hate it here when people go off-topic. But yes, I watch that news broadcast too, for the horror/shock value. I often think Joe Krebs must be biting his tongue or rolling his eyes. His self-composure is very good. She's a moron, no question. A couple of the field reporters also must ride the special bus to work in the morning.

Posted by: Curmudgeon | August 4, 2008 2:53 PM | Report abuse

In my freshman year of high school, we had split sessions due to severe overcrowding. Juniors and seniors attended 8 a.m. to 1 p.m. and sophomores and freshment 11 a.m. to 4 p.m. Since it was believed that students would eat lunch either before or after school (and since the cafeteria space was being used for study halls), lunch service was suspended and we were only served by vending machines. I had more lunches that consisted of Zingers and Tab than I care to think about.

Posted by: Raysmom | August 4, 2008 2:58 PM | Report abuse

Is liverwurst a nationwide thing? I was never sure. But I ate a lot of it as a kid, and still like it. Nother quite like a liverwurst on rye with sliced onion and mustard. (Best not to get too close to anyone for some time afterward, with those onions, unless you brush/mouthwash.) As a kid, it was almost always Oscar Meyer in those narrow tubes, but larger-diameter braunsweiger is so much better. Can also eat it on Wheat Thins as an hor d'oeuvre -- until I've had so many I just skip dinner (this is a bachelor thing).

Posted by: Curmudgeon | August 4, 2008 2:59 PM | Report abuse

TBG, have you noticed that channel 4 must have gotten rid of the copy editors for the crawlers? I can't tell you how many typos there have been lately, including instead of the NBC logo between items. The sad thing is that they seem to be better than the alternatives, Fox 5 in particular. ("The deadly new threat to your family you need to know about before you leave the house! Coming up in 10 minutes.")

Can't wait to see said anchor attempt rhythmic gymnastics, though.

Posted by: Raysmom | August 4, 2008 3:07 PM | Report abuse

Raysmom,
That was almost our exact arrangement except Juniors and Seniors went 7-12 and sophomores went 12-5. This met the state minimum requirements. In order to get enough credits for many colleges, seniors and juniors had to stay until 1 and sophomores started at 11, but we were responsible for our own transportation.

In my sophomore year, I went from 9 to 2 because Chemistry and Trig were only offered in the morning. That was the adjustment I had to make going from DoDDS to FL public schools which were less advanced academically.

The fact that the local all-boys Catholic school didn't offer Calculus or German kept me from having to go there like my mother wanted. I'm glad I dodged that bullet.

Posted by: yellojkt | August 4, 2008 3:07 PM | Report abuse

tbg is she "the bubble headed bleach blonde that comes on at 5,she can tell you about the plane crash with a gleam in her eye"

Posted by: greenwithenvy | August 4, 2008 3:09 PM | Report abuse

Omni, I think it is the chopping and mixing that makes tuna, chicken, potato into salads. So if you chop up the PBJ and mix it with mayonnaise or some other dressing (olive oil?) you have PBJ salad.

Posted by: Ivansmom | August 4, 2008 3:09 PM | Report abuse

Mudge, growing up in Indiana I often ate liverwurst sandwiches. Mustard yes, onions no, at least not till I grew up.

TBG, Mudge, What time is that idiot on? I might have to check it out for laughs.

Posted by: omni | August 4, 2008 3:11 PM | Report abuse

The comment bot ate part of my post:

including "logo" instead of the NBC logo between items

Posted by: Raysmom | August 4, 2008 3:13 PM | Report abuse

I can't keep track of the local news bimbos except that one of the Baltimore ones lives in Columbia near one of my wife's ex-principals. She may or may not be the one rumored to have had the affair with Cal Ripken. Or the one that was supposedly with Martin O'Malley. These newsreaders get around.

Posted by: yellojkt | August 4, 2008 3:15 PM | Report abuse

Reading the article now.

I know somebody who said she would never be able to accept her mother was really dead, and I remember Charles Schultz (Peanuts) was in a major depression for 20-30 years after his mother died.

Perhaps it's a form of OCD, depressive disorder, or something that may mainfest itself in certain ways before being triggered by grief.

Mudge, your question is interesting. I think it's possible, particularly if something goes wrong with the initial response to the shock.

However I'd be surprised a single person experienced complex grief for all possible triggers.

As an aside, more on civil right problems:

http://bluedogstate.blogspot.com/2008/08/slush-funds-for-humane-vigilantes-hsus.html

Also, the mayor of Berwyn heights just had his two labradors shot after marijuana was delivered to his doorstep. Probably a good case of entrapment here. Has he ticked off the police lately?

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/07/30/AR2008073003299.html

Posted by: Wilbrod | August 4, 2008 3:18 PM | Report abuse

Martin O'Malley supposedly had an illegitimate kid with a news anchor. Maybe they were getting him confused with John Edwards.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A10953-2005Feb9.html

Posted by: yellojkt | August 4, 2008 3:21 PM | Report abuse

YJ, try this:

In 2005, at the time of the Maryland gubernatorial election, some sources claimed that candidate Martin O'Malley may have fathered a child by a Baltimore news personality.

-----
We in the blogosphere must be responsible and do our part against the viraling of unsourced, unsubstantiated claims.

(gentle admonition, don't hate)

Posted by: College Parkian | August 4, 2008 3:34 PM | Report abuse

Braunschweiger and onions with mustard on toasted whole wheat bread.

Just make sure you clear your social calendar for several hours afterward.

Posted by: RD Padouk | August 4, 2008 3:34 PM | Report abuse

Mmm, braunsweiger...

I feel so justified, now. I've previously had the PB & mayo, and the PB and butter, and the PB with bacon. Each time some conformist or alarmist from the Food Police has been there to scold, mock, and berate me.

One wonders if the solution to the cafeteria thieves would be to go to a buffet style system, all they can eat, (although these are frowned on by the Food Police also.) I doubt it. Still room for finaglery. And overeating.

When I go to a buffet nowadays, I always get as many veggies as I can. I can make my own entrees at home any time, but whipping up five veg dishes is a lot of work.

Found the huge pack of chicken leg & thighs on sale for 79 cents per lb. the other day. Chicken & rice tonight.

Posted by: Jumper | August 4, 2008 3:38 PM | Report abuse

When I lived in Madison I lived in a co-op. Many of the residents were native Wisconsinites, born to cheap liverwurst, dairy and beer.

It wasn't unusual for people to have fried (sauteed in butter) liverwurst sandwiches for dinner. On plain white bread, IIRC.

Posted by: dbG | August 4, 2008 3:42 PM | Report abuse

Actually... Yello.. this might be even better...

In 2005, at the time of the Maryland gubernatorial election, his opponent's campaign spread the ugly rumor that candidate Martin O'Malley may have fathered a child by a Baltimore news personality.

Posted by: TBG | August 4, 2008 3:44 PM | Report abuse

GWE, that's a different news bimbo. This one is a brunette.

Omni, she's on 5 a.m. to 7 a.m. A pleasant enough lady, I suppose, but no, not a rocket scientist.

The new weathetr lady person on channel 9, Angie, is rather... um...attractive.

On the other hand, the NBC4 sports gal, Lindsay Czarniak, is NOT in the typical bimbo mold, has a very nice personality, but isn't of the "glamor" school; I like her. Ex-gal-jock, but very much the girl next-door type in amodest way. I.e., a "real" person, methinks.

Posted by: Curmudgeon | August 4, 2008 3:45 PM | Report abuse

CP,

Did you miss the two uses of "supposedly" and the link to a WaPo article with Governor Rockstar denying the rumor? I stand by my rumor-mongering as being completely neutral. I only know what I read.

Btw, the Republican source of those rumors was doing Goodwin-level (and beyond) vetting of the civil service ranks in Annapolis. He was spreading the rumors through a sock puppet on a right wing blog.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A52621-2005Mar20.html

Posted by: yellojkt | August 4, 2008 3:53 PM | Report abuse

When I first moved here I learned of this food, liver mush:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liver_Mush

Posted by: Jumper | August 4, 2008 3:53 PM | Report abuse

"the Republican source of those rumors was doing Goodwin-level (and beyond) vetting of the civil service ranks in Annapolis. He was spreading the rumors through a sock puppet on a right wing blog."

So why are you doing it here, yello? Cp was right. You ought to heed her.

Posted by: Curmudgeon | August 4, 2008 3:56 PM | Report abuse

Because it is obviously unfounded and scurrilous and I never claimed otherwise. In fact, I linked to evidence to the contrary. I was using it as an example of the gossip and innuendo that tend to surround female news personalities.

Have you heard the one about that Muslim fellow running for president? They put his picture on the New Yorker and everything.

Posted by: yellojkt | August 4, 2008 4:04 PM | Report abuse

Morgan Freeman in serious condition after car accident in Mississippi. Fingers crossed.

Novak's brain tumor is "dire"; he's retiring right away. Am trying hard to be nice, so won't say anything. (You can all read my mind on this anyway.)

Posted by: Curmudgeon | August 4, 2008 4:08 PM | Report abuse

Hey, Yello, hence my word gentle! Coupla points that come from wordsmithing training and trenches.

Some words are slippery-er than others: "supposedly" carries many nuances. Reporters work hard to limit verbs and adjectives to the most "facty" or "truthy."

Realpolitik: Not every one clicks into the link.

Notice that TBG went even further than I did to name the source and context.

And finally, some version of the Golden Rule is helpful. Speak about others as you would wish to be handled. For example, what about this:

The engineer hired supposedly checked the figures carefully yet the bridge fell anyway.

Wouldn't you prefer an editor/writer duo to try this:

Despite careful calculations on the part of the engineer, the bridge fell. Studies are underway to determine the causes.

Posted by: College Parkian | August 4, 2008 4:31 PM | Report abuse

Suggest you use some faux HTML tags here yellojkt. How about < sarcasm> & </sarcasm> or < fiction> & </fiction>. That may work.

DLD

Posted by: DLD | August 4, 2008 4:32 PM | Report abuse

Anyone ever play air guitar on a green bean?

I was out doing my latest hobby/chore picking green beans listening to ABB's Elizabeth Reed and found myself playing a green bean as if it was a guitar.Good thing I live in the middle of nowhere!!

Posted by: greenwithenvy | August 4, 2008 4:34 PM | Report abuse

The example you give, CP, illustrates why I could never teach freshman comp. I would lose my mind. God bless you for all you do.

Posted by: slyness | August 4, 2008 4:35 PM | Report abuse

Important breaking news!

FYI, from our technology dept.:

"Starting at noon tomorrow, we'll be turning off comments on most post.com blogs for about 24 hours to allow for some sorely needed software upgrades and other maintenance.

So, get snarking while the snarking's good...

- Liz

Posted by: Liz Kelly | August 4, 2008 3:07 PM

Could be dare hope...italics are coming? *swoon*

Nah...probably going to reduce the type font or something.

Posted by: Raysmom | August 4, 2008 4:36 PM | Report abuse

I forgot to add about a dozen ☺ ☺ ☺ ☺ ☺ ☺ ☺ ☺ for good measure. ☺

DLD

Posted by: DLD | August 4, 2008 4:36 PM | Report abuse

SCC: Could WE dare hope...

Good golly, and I even previewed.

Posted by: Raysmom | August 4, 2008 4:39 PM | Report abuse

Joel knew this was coming, didn't he!

DLD

Posted by: DLD | August 4, 2008 4:40 PM | Report abuse

I'm glad Novak discovered his brain tumor in time to retire and focus on his personal life, Mudge. I just wish it had been found before he hit somebody with a car.

As for his writing and political opinions, plenty people do worse without a brain tumor as an excuse, methinks. I'm sure you can think of a few.

Posted by: Wilbrod | August 4, 2008 4:40 PM | Report abuse

Middle of nowhere
green beans, an idlewild child
did anyone hear?

Posted by: Anonymous | August 4, 2008 4:45 PM | Report abuse

DLD,
For the same reason I don't do smileys. Pretty much everything I say would require such notation. Like the New Yorker cover, if you have to explain the joke you didn't tell it well enough. Or to the right audience. The falsality (opposite of truthiness) of the rumor was well reported in both local and national media.

I think it worked well at the time because it played off the Ripken-anchor rumor (which has reached urban legend status in Bawlmer) and fed into the preconceived notions about the morals of news reporters and politicians. A well crafted smear is a work of art. Ask John McCain who seems to have been on both sides of that plate.

Which makes me wonder why Gov. Black Muscle Shirt isn't on anybody's Veep shortlist betting pool? Other than the fact that he backed Hillary rather conspicuously.

Posted by: yellojkt | August 4, 2008 4:47 PM | Report abuse

CP, do you do freelance tutoring?

Yeah, "supposedly", "purportedly", "claimed that...", and such are weasel words. Teddy Roosevelt mentioned 'em.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weasel_words

I like the link to "peacock words."


Posted by: Wilbrod | August 4, 2008 4:53 PM | Report abuse

That is absolutely fabulous, gwe! After being irrationally but genuinely distressed by the rot spoken by Paul this morning, your green bean guitar put a shine on the afternoon. I shall now retire to my kitchen and make something fabulous for dinner as a further comfort.

Posted by: Yoki | August 4, 2008 4:53 PM | Report abuse

Does it then require a sort of "history", as it were, on the part of the writer/Boodler?

DLD

Posted by: DLD | August 4, 2008 4:54 PM | Report abuse

Dunno, "Obama and Black Muscle Shirt" would be kind of long on a bumper sticker, Yello.

In other words... who the *()^*&(% are you talking about anyhow?

Posted by: Wilbrod | August 4, 2008 4:55 PM | Report abuse

A 77 year old man has no business driving a corvette downtown either. Stay in the harbour, you old fool.

Besides, the visibility is poor in all directions but forward. Not that it matters at all for too many drivers though.

On to peanut crusted pork fillet with green curried veggies and plain rice to absorb some of the fire.

Posted by: shrieking denizen | August 4, 2008 4:56 PM | Report abuse

Betcha Joel knew this was coming, so he picked this week to vacate. Software updates and maintenance! Oooh, it makes me all tingly! (With fear as much as anticipation.)

Posted by: slyness | August 4, 2008 4:58 PM | Report abuse

DLD,
I boodled out of order and missed your smileys. Nice touch. Please take no offense or umbrage.

CP,
Nuance is very important to me. I'm just not very good at it. The word "rumor" implies something either unverified or unverifiable. "Supposedly" indicates a high level of suspicion while "allegedly" infers a rather token and pro forma amount of doubt.

But I'm just an engineer. English teachers at Tech are doing missionary work and are grateful if we could just graduate writing complete sentences. Evidently, they have a lot of failures. Like those collapsing bridges.

There is an apocryphal story about a civil engineering professor that refused to give partial credit on tests. He said that in the real world they don't pay you half if only part of the bridge collapses.

Posted by: yellojkt | August 4, 2008 5:01 PM | Report abuse

Yello- Unbridge, Umbarge, ah heck! I can't even spell the word.

Meaning, none taken in the least.

DLD

Posted by: DLD | August 4, 2008 5:08 PM | Report abuse

Wilbrod,
Maryland Governor Martin O'Malley, former Mayor of Baltimore and erstwhile lead singer and guitarist of O'Malley's March. Do yourself a favor and click on the link:

http://www.showbizireland.com/images/stars2/gigs-9-mayorbaltimore.jpg

Poor guy can't afford sleeves.

Posted by: yellojkt | August 4, 2008 5:09 PM | Report abuse

Boodle-less for 24 hours!

And you know that means more like 36 hours, considering the capabilities this blog software has already boasted.

So telling us it would be dark for TEN DAYS was only an inoculation against us knowing it would dark for "merely" 24 hours.

YIKES!

Posted by: TBG | August 4, 2008 5:23 PM | Report abuse

A question for others: are there French speakers in Canada who can't speak English, or only very poorly? Or maybe distrust their command of English?

Posted by: Jumper | August 4, 2008 5:33 PM | Report abuse

In college, my wife did a summer semester of French immersion in Trois-Rivieres. Plenty of Quebecois with little or no English. Or at least none they cared to use around American exchange students.

Posted by: yellojkt | August 4, 2008 5:39 PM | Report abuse

Jumper... we went to some yard sales in Quebec just a few miles away from the Vermont line and met homeowners who spoke no English at all.

Posted by: TBG | August 4, 2008 5:40 PM | Report abuse

And lest my jabs at my current governor smack of partisanship, The Faux-Celtic Rocker Guy is a vast improvement over Bobby Haircut.

http://blog.washingtonpost.com/rawfisher/2007/05/the_bobby_haircut_and_kendal_e.html

Particularly if you have a spouse on the public payroll.

Posted by: yellojkt | August 4, 2008 5:44 PM | Report abuse

And "O'Bama/O'Malley" would make a great bumper sticker. When I first moved here I was completely oblivious to the implications that O'Malley's bumper stickers were green while Schmoke's were red, black and green.

Posted by: yellojkt | August 4, 2008 6:00 PM | Report abuse

A rapid response; thanks TBG!

In my view Spanish and French, and the various Indian lingos, too, are "grandfathered in" and English speakers ought to keep things in perspective and learn about the cultures we have always had right here. I don't know how to react to clerks at the gas/ convenience store who can speak no English, Spanish, OR French.

Although my friend from France once made me promise to "never attempt to speak French again."

Posted by: Jumper | August 4, 2008 6:00 PM | Report abuse

He thinks we don't know
Mystery haiku writer
"Colors" is the clue.

Posted by: Not me | August 4, 2008 6:07 PM | Report abuse

Thought I would squeeze this in before it all went, you know (*shudder*) dark. (cue music or, perhaps muzak).

I LUVVVVVVVV Canada -- and this is presented not necessarily to curry favor with the Canadaboodlers among us (although I am known to really enjoy a nice, spicy (even flaming hot) curry -- pass the Vindaloo, please). I just love your country and your people and, well, you know, things Canadian. Coming from southeastern Michigan, there would be frequent trips over the bridge or through the tunnel from Detroit to Windsor back in the day when you only had to tell "them" where you were born (no documentation needed), what your purpose was in traveling over the boundary, how long you planned to stay, and, by the way, have a nice time. I've only been in Ontario and really like Toronto. I would very much like to visit Quebec and then go out west. Dunno if that's gonna happen, tho.

Sad about Novak (from 50,000 feet, perhaps), as among his colleagues, I really don't wish him ill (as he is already anyway). Some of the Faux "News" people, though, well, those are a$$es of a different color (well, not really, you know, when you pare off the existential).

Hope we all can get through the day ahead without boodling. And I, too, hope for a bit of italic capacity.

Au revoir, mes amis/amies (les boodleaires, peut etre?).

Posted by: firsttimeblogger | August 4, 2008 6:13 PM | Report abuse

I just saw that today Barack Obama turns 47.

47.

Posted by: RD Padouk | August 4, 2008 6:18 PM | Report abuse

I found that article on complicated grief fascinating.

You know, I think most grown-up people have a certain amount of grief hiding out in their psychic background. Things that happened decades ago that do not necessarily involving a death.

It's part of what makes us such interesting creatures.

Posted by: RD Padouk | August 4, 2008 6:23 PM | Report abuse

That means he's old enough, RD. He's 12 years older than the Constitution requires. That's enough, don't you think?

Posted by: slyness | August 4, 2008 6:26 PM | Report abuse

You're right, RD. And especially when parents die, the grief includes the loss of what one never got, but needed, and can get no more, because the parent is gone and so, then, is the wish that that part will eventually be resolved. Takes a lot of working through.

Posted by: firsttimeblogger | August 4, 2008 6:27 PM | Report abuse

Engineers have no
Talent at haiku writing
Just ask anyone

Posted by: Anonymous | August 4, 2008 6:29 PM | Report abuse

Haikus have units
Units are measured, counted
Ergo, haikus are.

Posted by: Wilbrod | August 4, 2008 6:35 PM | Report abuse

slyness - no criticism at all was implied of Obama for being a youthful 47.

It is just that as someone only a seven months younger, it makes me feel terribly inadequate.

Posted by: RD Padouk | August 4, 2008 6:39 PM | Report abuse

But I am planning on being real super productive this fall to catch up.

I'm just not sure how yet...

Posted by: RD Padouk | August 4, 2008 6:40 PM | Report abuse

Logical are poems
That mainfest math-y structure
Meanings can go hang.

Posted by: Wilbrod | August 4, 2008 6:40 PM | Report abuse

Jumper, my mother. She couln't talk her way to the bathroom.
And 1-2 millions or so (30-50% of Québécois claim little or no knowledge of English). And that includes me, of course.

Posted by: shrieking denizen | August 4, 2008 6:41 PM | Report abuse

I'm a multilingual illiterate :b

Posted by: Brag | August 4, 2008 6:45 PM | Report abuse

RD... at least you're still younger than Obama. Maybe I should hope for a McCain victory just so I can remain younger than the US President.

Posted by: TBG | August 4, 2008 6:47 PM | Report abuse

My two favourite things, PB and liverwurst on one day is more than I can take. Sadly liverwurst triggers sore toe syndrome (more aptly named undiagnosed gout) so I avoid it, I can't drink milk or eat dairy products any longer (I really miss cheese and ice cream) so all I have left is peanut butter.

I'm wondering how I can sneak a spicy peanut sauce on the chicken stir fry I hope to make for dinner. I'll have to threaten to put peas in it and if that fails, I'll threaten to make my signature three bean salad.

It was a lovely slothful day celebrating our shared French/English/every other nations/immigrant heritage.

Posted by: dr | August 4, 2008 6:52 PM | Report abuse

No, no, NO, TBG!

Being older than the President is just another one of those meaningless milestones we have to endure as we mature.

Hey, I am older than my last boss. I am older than my doctor. I am older than my pastor. What's the big deal?

I am ALIVE and happy in my current station of life.

Posted by: slyness | August 4, 2008 6:56 PM | Report abuse

SD, offset that with the far far greater number of people whose first language is English, who cannot speak a word of French.

There are vast swaths of places on the prairies where our exposure to French is of the cereal box variety. I hope for better for our kids.

Posted by: dr | August 4, 2008 7:03 PM | Report abuse

Of course you're right, Slyness. My grandmother used to moan to me, "Don't get old."

I told her I didn't like the alternative.

Posted by: TBG | August 4, 2008 7:28 PM | Report abuse

funny pages ghosts
making rash accusations
muddy the water

Posted by: Ida Know | August 4, 2008 7:35 PM | Report abuse

boodlers wonder why
mystery haiku writer
won't admit a name

Posted by: TBG | August 4, 2008 8:05 PM | Report abuse

Thanks for teaching me something, everyone. I had no idea français was a sole language for so many in Canada.

Posted by: Jumper | August 4, 2008 8:10 PM | Report abuse

I was always pretty sure I'd hate the first president younger than me, and see them for an insufferable airhead. Looks like it may not be so.

Posted by: Jumper | August 4, 2008 8:13 PM | Report abuse

Redneck Stonehedge? Better make your pilgrimmages while it lasts.

http://tinyurl.com/5bwsjr

Posted by: Wilbrod | August 4, 2008 8:43 PM | Report abuse

SCC: StoneheNge

Posted by: Wilbrod | August 4, 2008 8:46 PM | Report abuse

claim a name -- anon
in this world most all remain
almost all unknown

Posted by: Anonymous | August 4, 2008 9:02 PM | Report abuse

geez, am I too late to the boodle?... Montreal eh Joel? you must say 'eh' a lot and ask for mayonaise on your hamburger and fries, or ketchup... I'm thinking of 'The Whole Nine Yards'... Bruce Willis is ranting on about everything having ketchup on it in Montreal. That is a hilarious movie re: American view of the Frenchie life.

Posted by: Miss Toronto | August 4, 2008 9:02 PM | Report abuse

mocking engineers
nor rocking handles for I
like crossing bridges

Posted by: Anonymous | August 4, 2008 9:14 PM | Report abuse

Mudge glad you posted that link to Joseph Brant, I am ashamed to say much of it was news to me, and I live in the town with the Joseph Brant Museum. The last house they refer to in the bio has been moved to a site at the end of the park on the lakeshore and serves as the museum - it is right next to the hospital that bears his name.

On other topics PB and jelly or PB and Honey I still enjoy - not that picky but I generally purchase Kraft Fat reduced smooth.

Posted by: dmd | August 4, 2008 9:15 PM | Report abuse

greenwithenvy has
color in the name and so
must be haiku man

Posted by: nellie | August 4, 2008 9:51 PM | Report abuse

Check out who's bought up
http://www.obamabayh08.com

Does this mean something, or are they playing mind games?

Posted by: DNA Girl | August 4, 2008 9:57 PM | Report abuse

RIP Boodle.

Posted by: shrieking denizen | August 4, 2008 11:25 PM | Report abuse

Mayonnaise is the preferred and most used condiment in Europe.

Posted by: Shiloh | August 4, 2008 11:37 PM | Report abuse

"Salad days," when we were green, according to the Bard, are now succeeded by "mayonnaise days" when we are slick and tasteful.

http://www.dailygazette.com/weblogs/food-forum/2008/jun/02/mayonnaise-days/

Posted by: Shiloh | August 4, 2008 11:45 PM | Report abuse

Alas and alack!
Has the boodle paused
or have I caused
a cardiac attack?

Hang on dear flower
the defibrillator is near
and a new catalyst here
to renew the power

http://www.sciencemag.org/cgi/content/full/321/5889/620
http://web.mit.edu/newsoffice/2008/oxygen-0731.htm

Posted by: DNA Girl | August 4, 2008 11:48 PM | Report abuse

Eek!
Pardon me, I should've checked the pulse before posting.

http://www.sinfest.net/archive_page.php?comicID=106
http://www.sinfest.net/archive_page.php?comicID=108

Posted by: DNA Girl | August 5, 2008 12:01 AM | Report abuse

DNAgirl, usually you just have to think about saying 'It's dead Jim' and the boodle perks right back up.

Now why the heck am I up so late is what I want to know. Its 10:30 local time, and I never manage to stay awake till 10:30.

Posted by: dr | August 5, 2008 12:32 AM | Report abuse

I fell off the ladder today trying to lift this giagundo cabinet onto a cleat this afternoon. Duh. Landed ribs, right side, first on the ladder rail. Luckily, I have simply bruised them. Tomorrow is going to be a scorcher and we have a soccer match. We lost a player and are down to ten. the matches are played nine a side, leaving us one on the bench. The heat index is going to be something approaching 105, so if we play, there are going to be some mighty tired eight year olds and one stinky coach. I caught some audio from an animal rights fellow ponificating on the Molotov's set off in Santa Cruz over the weekend. That particular fellow is an a$$hat. The next time any of you have a shrimp boil, try this recipe. We did it at the beach a few weeks ago and had about six pounds of 25-30ct. shrimp to serve eight adults and my two children: boil a mixture of a couple quarts of water and a couple of beers, seasoned with lots of Old Bay. boil the shrimp for only a minute and ladle them into a Pyrex casserole, sprinkle them liberally with more Old Bay, and cover them. Repeat until all the shrimp are cooked. Plate them and put a pile of Old Bay on your plate along with cocktail sauce, dip, and scarf 'em down.

Posted by: jack | August 5, 2008 12:35 AM | Report abuse

So you can hang out with cool folks, of course, dr.

Posted by: jack | August 5, 2008 12:36 AM | Report abuse

I'm glad you didn't crack your ribs, Jack. We already have one too many boodlers having broken ribs. I hope they are only their way to full recovery.

People here like canned sardine in tomato or chili sauce. Generally, it gets sauté with onions and topped on rice. To make sandwich with it, just mash the sardine with the sauce that come with it and mix in some mayonnaise. Top the sandwich with thinly sliced cucumber. Oh, and cut diagonally. It's quite nice.

On the topic of PB, I buy Planters (brand loyalty.) My PB sandwich consists of 3 slices. The middle slice is generously buttered both sides, and sandwich between 2 slices that has PB spread on the inside. Yum yum.

Posted by: rainforest | August 5, 2008 1:39 AM | Report abuse

I'm afraid I've been away for a long time. Hello all.

My LA Times has been getting thinner and thinner and it has occurred to me to cancel my subscritption because there isn't enoughh there to bother with. The story on the women's British Open was interesting, and said the top 5 were Asian, but only identified a couple and didn't have a table of all the finishers. And ther are no stock tables. (For example)

Given my sciatica, it's a lot easier to pick up a paper that weighs half as much. But I'm really wondering if I'm getting what I pay for. The stories are great, but a lot simply aren't there any more. Should I cancel? I like the ritual of going out to pick it up, but if it only serves to identify things I need to search for on the internet (other sites, often), what's the point?

Posted by: LTL-CA | August 5, 2008 2:27 AM | Report abuse

Going outside and picking the thing up. You have identified the lure of the dead tree edition.

Posted by: Jumper | August 5, 2008 5:21 AM | Report abuse

http://www.sinfest.net/archive_page.php?comicID=1988

Posted by: Jumper | August 5, 2008 5:25 AM | Report abuse

ok, morning crew, up'n'at'em.

Posted by: L.A. lurker | August 5, 2008 6:05 AM | Report abuse

I've been re-installing Windows on my son's computer. No idea what he had on there. Better off with a fresh start. At least I'm up and running with internet connectivity.

Posted by: yellojkt | August 5, 2008 6:13 AM | Report abuse

'Morning, Boodle. This morning I am shaking my head: I looked at the WaPo op-ed list, and right there was Richard Cohen's column, wherein somebody had typed the headline spelling the word "Amazon" (the bookseller, not the fierce warrior lady) as "Amizon." It is still there. *sigh*

Cohen's column is "just OK," about how Amazon and the digital universe seem to be winning the war against the traditional bookstore and indeed the traditional book itself, and I agree with Cohen and mourn with him.

Robinson's and Dionne's columns on Obama and the race card are OK, not great, but serviceable. The "On Faith" section has its usual execrable headlines on Obama and McCain, which in fact concern fairly predictably bad opinion pieces. The McCain headline, in particular, is especially misleading, since it says: "McCain the Secular Messiah," when in fact Berlinblau's piece says exactly the opposite. The "Is Obama 'the One"?" [answer: no] piece is especially simple-minded, and has all the intellectual force of a piece written by a 12-year-old. Puh-leeese. It's theme: our politicians aren't religious deities (Richard Nixon wasn't the messiah, he avers). Well, no sh--, Herman. Jeez. Some heavy thought musta gone into that one.

Got both the Weingarten and Kurtz chats today at noon, and the Robinson and a Book World chat at 1. I'm actually thinking about skipping the Weingarten chat; I haven't seen much there lately to keep me interested. Which I feel kinda sad about: time to move on from him, maybe. The ratio of pleasure to labor wading through that chat just isn't there for me any more. It has become "obligatory" -- and that's the kiss of death.

OK, people, up and at 'em.

Posted by: Curmudgeon | August 5, 2008 6:17 AM | Report abuse

Oh, and this AP piece is ironic:

"NEW YORK -- Looking to bring more value-seeking consumers through its doors for a late afternoon caffeine fix, Starbucks Corp. said it will now offer its morning customers any iced grande beverage for $2 after 2 p.m."

Value-seeking customers? If anybody was seeking "value," they'd have enough sense to go to Dunkin' Donuts or WaWa or 7-11, fer cryin' out loud. You don't get "value" at Starbucks; you get hijacked.

Posted by: Curmudgeon | August 5, 2008 6:21 AM | Report abuse

Mornin' all...

Please don't mind me while I grump around waiting for the percolator to finish making my wake-up juice. I am so not a morning person.

C'mon Cassandra... Mudge got me up, so I'm passing it on... get yer dupa movin' girl. ;-)

{* grumps off to the kitchen to give the percolator threatening looks to make it perk faster *}

Posted by: martooni | August 5, 2008 6:35 AM | Report abuse

God loves us so much more than we can imagine through Him that died for all, Jesus Christ.

Good morning, friends. Mudge, I read that piece about grief, and it does make sense. I don't know if that applies to me, it just might, but I don't believe anyone that has lost a child ever forgets that. I do stuff, and I don't think about my loss everyday, but at times it does come back full force. I think about the good times my son and I enjoyed, and that helps.

And I believe that you're in love with Evangline Lilly, Mudge, as much as you try to hide it.

Martooni, Scotty, Slyness, time to get cracking. Good morning to all.*waving*

I also read Robinson this morning. His explaination for the race discussions are basically what some having been saying about them. Of course, I am not a fan of Lindsey Graham. The fact that he hails from SC will never give him points in my book, and his politics doesn't endear him to me either. The race card is the only card Graham can play. It is something he's done his whole life coming from where he does. And I don't care for FOX news, either. It's like McCain is grabbing at straws, and the only ones left are those that look like me? I'm hoping these folks will talk about the issues that are facing our country, for me that's what is important. I don't need anyone to tell me what race I am or what I think because of who I am. I look in the mirror every morning, and though the mind has become feeble to some extent due to age, I'm pretty sure about my thoughts.

Have a great day, folks. It is suppose to be 99 or 100 today. I was outside yesterday, and developed cramps. Not good. Remember to check on the elderly.

Time to swim.

Posted by: cassandra s | August 5, 2008 6:51 AM | Report abuse

Vroom, vroom.
Taking off before we get nuked.
Haff a goot day, das Boodle!

Posted by: Brag | August 5, 2008 7:06 AM | Report abuse

G'morning everybody.

I made up for having to rise 45 minutes early yesterday by oversleeping 20 minutes this morning. Somehow, that doesn't seem right.

I'll go and check out the op-ed stuff now. Usually, I do that first but this morning I came here.

I'm not looking forward to lack of boodle for the next 24 hours.

Posted by: slyness | August 5, 2008 7:22 AM | Report abuse

At least 24 hours. The latest word is late Wednesday afternoon.

Posted by: yellojkt | August 5, 2008 7:38 AM | Report abuse

You mean before my first post of the day, Brag? :-)

Wacky week here, with many co-workers absent. *SIGH*

I'm glad the comments are still here.

*stocking-up-on-caffeine Grover waves* :-)

Posted by: Scottynuke | August 5, 2008 7:44 AM | Report abuse

Where do you see that "latest word," Yello?

Do we know when we're going dark, or is every refresh possibly our last?

Posted by: TBG | August 5, 2008 8:46 AM | Report abuse

Thanks Mudge. completely forgot this AM ...


Liver Mush is more tolerable than Scrapple. feh

Posted by: omni | August 5, 2008 8:47 AM | Report abuse

Oh.. I see.. Celebritology says...

Note to Commenters: Starting at Noon ET, washingtonpost.com is turning off comments on several blogs, including this one (Celebritology), to allow for some software upgrades and other maintenance. Blog entries and comments are expected to resume by late Wednesday afternoon.

Posted by: TBG | August 5, 2008 8:49 AM | Report abuse

From the On Parenting Blog (where the Mommy Blog nutsos have migrated):

Note to Readers: Starting at noon tomorrow, washingtonpost.com is turning off comments on this blog to allow for some software upgrades and other maintenance. Blog entries and comments are expected to resume by Thursday morning.

Posted by: shrieking denizen | August 5, 2008 9:03 AM | Report abuse

I have coffee, I have water, and just when all the world is aligning to give me actual first thing in the morning coffee, I find I have no filters...

Because the ones I bought yesterday are at son1's girlfriends new place.

Sigh. Could someone just shoot me, please?

Posted by: dr | August 5, 2008 9:07 AM | Report abuse

Hey, do we have that late breaking news flash at the header of this blog?

Maybe we will be OK. Or maybe they are messing with out minds, because they can.

Posted by: dr | August 5, 2008 9:11 AM | Report abuse

I just hope they're not going to "upgrade" us into one of those horrible comments formats like the Gene Pool or the blogs that read the most-recent comment at the top.

Posted by: TBG | August 5, 2008 9:13 AM | Report abuse

dr, in a pinch try a paper towel. It ain't elegant, but it might get you through the morning. The strength may be a bit off, though.

Posted by: Curmudgeon | August 5, 2008 9:13 AM | Report abuse

Paper towels, dr... they should work fine as coffee filters if you've got 'em.

Posted by: TBG | August 5, 2008 9:18 AM | Report abuse

New kit, folks.

Posted by: dr | August 5, 2008 9:24 AM | Report abuse

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Take care. Miss you. Beautiful here, reads the postcard.

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