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Did you hear about Obama's trip overseas? He apologized. He groveled. He bowed to the Saudis!!! He said America is a bad place, and he spouted all that rhetoric he learned at the feet of the Rev. Jeremiah Wright and Bill Ayers. I know this because I've been reading and watching the Fair and Balanced media. Like last night, I caught a little bit of "Hannity," which is named after the host, Sean Hannity, who is so smart that he can discern stuff that didn't even actually happen.

Let's go to the tape: This is Hannity speaking with Newt Gingrich last night (per my hastily typed transcript):

Hannity: "[Obama is] coming off a tour where he's constantly apologizing for America, referring to us as an arrogant country, dictating to the world our views, and that we're not a Christian nation. We are a nation founded on Judeo-Christian principles. Now, I'm looking at his world view, and I'm thinking, okay, this sounds like he learned something sitting in Rev. Wright's pews and hanging out with, palling around with, Bill Ayers."

Newt Gingrich: "And I think he learned an awful lot reading Revelry for Radicals [oops, make that Reveille for Radicals] and studying left wing activists in South Side Chicago. I think it's very important to recognize that what you're watching is the most radical left wing administration in American history. The foreign policy trip, I think, was pretty pathetic...."

This echoes a column yesterday in the New York Post that got a prominent link from Drudge:

On every stage, Obama draped Lady Liberty in sackcloth and ashes, drawing plentiful applause but no serious economic or security cooperation in return. Then, in Turkey, he surrendered our national pride, undercut our interests and interfered in matters that aren't his business.

Wow. Sounds awful. Just to make sure, I checked the transcripts of Obama's remarks, including his very controversial speech to the Turkish parliament and his round-table exchange with students. Check it out yourself:

Obama to the students:

A part of that process involves giving you a better sense of America. I know that the stereotypes of the United States are out there, and I know that many of them are informed not by direct exchange or dialogue, but by television shows and movies and misinformation. Sometimes it suggests that America has become selfish and crass, or that we don't care about the world beyond us. And I'm here to tell you that that's not the country that I know and it's not the country that I love.

America, like every other nation, has made mistakes and has its flaws. But for more than two centuries we have strived at great cost and sacrifice to form a more perfect union, to seek with other nations a more hopeful world. We remain committed to a greater good, and we have citizens in countless countries who are serving in wonderful capacities as doctors and as agricultural specialists, people -- teachers -- people who are committed to making the world a better place.

We're also a country of different backgrounds and races and religions that have come together around a set of shared ideals. And we are still a place where anybody has a chance to make it if they try. If that wasn't true, then somebody named Barack Hussein Obama would not be elected President of the United States of America. That's the America I want you to know.

Huh.

Well, maybe it was later in that round-table that he spouted the Bill Ayers stuff. Let's listen in:

there are some areas where I agree with many of my friends in the United States who are on the opposite political party. For example, I agree that al Qaeda is an enormous threat not just to the United States but to the world. I have no sympathy and I have no patience for people who would go around blowing up innocent people for a political cause. I don't believe in that.

Yeah, but he probably really stuck it to America later on, I bet. Let's see what he said when asked why so many Americans responded so positively to his election:

You know, in terms of my election, I think that what people felt good about was it affirmed the sense that America is still a land of opportunity. I was not born into wealth. I wasn't born into fame. I come from a racial minority. My name is very unusual for the United States. And so I think people saw my election as proof, as testimony, that although we are imperfect, our society has continued to improve; that racial discrimination has been reduced; that educational opportunity for all people is something that is still available. And I also think that people were encouraged that somebody like me who has a background of living overseas, who has Muslims in his family -- you know, that I might be able to help to build bridges with other parts of the world. You know, the American people are a very hopeful people. We're an optimistic people by nature. We believe that anything is possible if we put our minds to it.

Okay.... So maybe when he spoke to the parliament, that's when he trashed America. Let's look:

[D]emocracies cannot be static -- they must move forward. Freedom of religion and expression lead to a strong and vibrant civil society that only strengthens the state, which is why steps like reopening Halki Seminary will send such an important signal inside Turkey and beyond. An enduring commitment to the rule of law is the only way to achieve the security that comes from justice for all people. Robust minority rights let societies benefit from the full measure of contributions from all citizens.

I say this as the President of a country that not very long ago made it hard for somebody who looks like me to vote, much less be President of the United States. But it is precisely that capacity to change that enriches our countries. Every challenge that we face is more easily met if we tend to our own democratic foundation. This work is never over. That's why, in the United States, we recently ordered the prison at Guantanamo Bay closed. That's why we prohibited -- without exception or equivocation -- the use of torture. All of us have to change. And sometimes change is hard.

Another issue that confronts all democracies as they move to the future is how we deal with the past. The United States is still working through some of our own darker periods in our history. Facing the Washington Monument that I spoke of is a memorial of Abraham Lincoln, the man who freed those who were enslaved even after Washington led our Revolution. Our country still struggles with the legacies of slavery and segregation, the past treatment of Native Americans.

Human endeavor is by its nature imperfect. History is often tragic, but unresolved, it can be a heavy weight. Each country must work through its past. And reckoning with the past can help us seize a better future. I know there's strong views in this chamber about the terrible events of 1915. And while there's been a good deal of commentary about my views, it's really about how the Turkish and Armenian people deal with the past. And the best way forward for the Turkish and Armenian people is a process that works through the past in a way that is honest, open and constructive."

It's always tricky going to someone else's parliament and suggesting that they haven't deal adequately with a genocidal chapter in their history.

Now, let's go back to that "Hannity" tape. Here's Gingrich: "We are not a secular country. We're a country which was founded with a Declaration of Independence which says, we are endowed by our Creator with certain inalienable rights. Now, how can you say all of your rights as an American come from your Creator and then pretend that you're a secular society. We're not."

Newt, you're confusing us with Iran. (How do you explain this thing?)

I realize whatever I say is tainted by my membership in a suspect class (the "Liberal Media"), but I must note that the Hannity/Gingrich narrative seems to describe a trip made by a president on a parallel Earth. He espoused what's good about America, and, to the extent he acknowledged past imperfections, he framed them as triumphs of societal evolution. Obama didn't perform like a rookie at all; I'm amazed at how cool and collected he has been in his new role. He dazzled his audiences -- almost as much as his wife impressed them.

The far-right conservatives cover themselves in no glory if they measure the value of a presidential trip solely in units of what we get from these foreigners. And it's not clear to me that Hannity and Gingrich are actually espousing conservative principles. Hannity wants audience and knows that there is no moderate niche in the cable gab world; Gingrich may very well be running for president and likely sees the Hannity audience as his potential base. I need to remember: They're not talking to me.

Man, I miss Bill Buckley.

--

From the boodle, here's kguy with a movie minute:

The Hannitys and Rushbos have always been around. No one has ever done a better examination of this phenomenon than writer Budd Schulberg and director Elia Kazan in 1957's "A Face in the Crowd" starring Patricia Neal and Andy Griffith as Lonesome Rhodes. Here is a sample-

Lonesome Rhodes: This whole country's just like my flock of sheep!
Marcia Jeffries: Sheep?
Lonesome Rhodes: Rednecks, crackers, hillbillies, hausfraus, shut-ins, pea-pickers - everybody that's got to jump when somebody else blows the whistle. They don't know it yet, but they're all gonna be 'Fighters for Fuller'. They're mine! I own 'em! They think like I do. Only they're even more stupid than I am, so I gotta think for 'em. Marcia, you just wait and see. I'm gonna be the power behind the president - and you'll be the power behind me!


Mel Miller: [commenting on one of Lonesome Rhodes' on-air tirades after the two have had a falling out] I'll say one thing for him, he's got the courage of his ignorance.

If you thought that "Matlock" was the high point of Andy's career, think again. His very first film role may well have been his best.

By Joel Achenbach  |  April 9, 2009; 7:03 AM ET
 
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That's not a planet, JA, it's a black hole that doubles as an echo chamber... :-)

Posted by: Scottynuke | April 9, 2009 9:12 AM | Report abuse

Joel you fool! You fell victim to one of the classic blunders! The most famous is never get involved in a land war in Asia, but only slightly less well-known is this: never listen to Sean Hannity when truth is on the line! Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha! Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha! Ha ha ha...

Posted by: kguy1 | April 9, 2009 9:27 AM | Report abuse

Thank you, Joel. Thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you.

Sometimes it's difficult to think one isn't simply going insane listening to the crap that comes out of their mouths.

Posted by: curmudgeon-1 | April 9, 2009 9:31 AM | Report abuse

The reaction to his trip by many of the right-wing media machine is expected but hardly worthy of my concern. I am concerned by Newt's reaction since i believe he will be a serious player in 2012. I voted for Obama but i am more than happy to vote Republican in the next election if he messes up and they present me with a candidate that i can believe in. However, that candidate must show me some moral courage, intellectual integrity, and capacity to lead all Americans. When Newt talks like this and does not seem to work in reality I can not just write it off as political rhetoric. There is too much of that already. If he can't see the forest for the trees and stand up to Hannity to express his own (hopefully more nuanced) position then how can i trust him to be President? McCain found out this was the main problem with his candidacy after picking Palin and so will Newt.

Posted by: agrawog | April 9, 2009 9:31 AM | Report abuse

Excellent kit Joel.

Posted by: dmd2 | April 9, 2009 9:31 AM | Report abuse

I realize that the first amendment is sacred. But, when does the rule.."You can't shout fire in a crowded theatre" kick in?

The likes of Glen Beck, Hannity, Gingrich, etc come very close to being the "terrorists" they claim so loudlyi to deplore.....in turn they become...deplorable.

Posted by: rfgtile | April 9, 2009 9:34 AM | Report abuse

Guess the honeymoon (such as it was) is over for Obama and the Right Wing Nut Squad. I thought that it would be safe for awhile to pay less attention to politics and do something else for a change. But liars never stop lying, so vigilance, Gene, be ever vigilant! I'll still be invading some of my favorite Right Wing websites and calling those crazies out for their nonsense. But what can we do to reach Faux News? Do they ever answer their phone?

Posted by: barnesgene | April 9, 2009 9:35 AM | Report abuse

We all know how this works.

First some Alpha Pundit reinterprets reality to fit his or her ideological slant. Next all the Beta Pundits echo this bizarre spin and add their own special venom. Before you know it, this collective regurgitation results in a lead item on "Memeorandum" and a new meme of the right is born.

Alas, it does no good to rant at these pundits, for they view such indignation as evidence that they are speaking The Truth.

The way to short circuit this process, of course, is to do exactly what Joel has done and return to the original material.

Of course, even that will do little to squelch the most rabid of the Obama haters. For they believe they have the ability to see into his evil soul. His reasonable and balanced words, they assert, are just a clever ruse.

And this kind of paranoid thinking is almost impossible to refute.

Posted by: RD_Padouk | April 9, 2009 9:41 AM | Report abuse

The United States media needs to examine its role at disseminating propaganda that passes for fair and balanced reporting. As a PuertoRican, I am not an immigrant. Yet whenever I hear a fellow citizen refer to me as a foreigner. Such racist views translate well with the view that this country is the "best". the 21st Century requires a brave reexamination from all nations. War is not a business opportunity. The people of Iraq suffered the ravages of a war of opportunity while the media voiced propaganda as news. We can not be a nation of exploitative foreign policies. The millions of US citizens in the "territories", the legacy of the imperial pursuits of the 19th and 20th Centuries, are an example of previous policies that have become unsuitable for the modern era. Turkey, Europe, Islam and grappling with similar dilemmas with far more honesty. I wonder how Mr. Hannity and Mr. Gingrich would translate to the Spanish speaking citizens in the USA. It is sad that most viewers can tune in so passively to these cable and mainstream propagandists to reinforce their bias rather than critically challenge their beliefs. Goof work Señor Achenbach.

Posted by: RUBENMORTIZ | April 9, 2009 9:44 AM | Report abuse

Woohoo! Front page.

Posted by: RD_Padouk | April 9, 2009 9:48 AM | Report abuse

Thanks for this post, Joel. It's impossible to call out often enough the dishonesty of guys like Sean Hannity. They'll look for any bit of text they can distort or twist to fit their own despicable, anti-American agenda. They want people to be stupid and ill-informed, the better to manipulate their emotions and control their actions.

The Republicans hate Obama almost as much as (and at the pundit level, even more than) the Democrats hated Bush. But you know something? The American people have figured them out. Republican identification is at a decades-long low and the party looks to be out of power for at least six years.

And that is good news. Considering how badly they've messed up everything they touched in the past eight, they need a time-out before we trust them with real power again.

Posted by: drewbitt | April 9, 2009 9:48 AM | Report abuse

Yep, still on the Front Page.

Anyone restock the Bunker's scone supply?

Posted by: Scottynuke | April 9, 2009 9:48 AM | Report abuse

It looks like we may be here a while, so I'm brining lots of fresh fruit and Vitamin D supplements :)

Posted by: Yoki | April 9, 2009 9:50 AM | Report abuse

Fresh fruit?!!??? *nervous tic*

Just don't come at me with a banana, Yoki...

*eyeing the release lever for the 16-ton weight*

Posted by: Scottynuke | April 9, 2009 9:53 AM | Report abuse

Newt and Hannity are blinded by testosterone, at least that would be Kathleen Parker's take (her Wednesday column)
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/04/07/AR2009040703437.html?nav=hcmoduletmv

I don't see the gender based idiocy she does, it doesn't explain Michelle Bachman for instance, but her conclusion to "Obama's Unmach Diplomacy" is spot on:
"A man who listens may be perceived as weak by those who prefer to talk big. But playground wisdom holds that showoffs are usually overcompensating, and the strongest one has nothing to prove. To answer the original question: When you're the big dog, you can afford to smile. The saber is understood."

Posted by: frostbitten1 | April 9, 2009 9:56 AM | Report abuse

SCC-that would be Unmacho Diplomacy

Posted by: frostbitten1 | April 9, 2009 9:58 AM | Report abuse

If this ain't the makings of a major Rovestorm I don't know what is. Run for the bunker, folks!

Posted by: curmudgeon-1 | April 9, 2009 10:04 AM | Report abuse

Nicely done, Joel.

As others have noted, the difficulty in a rational response to such otherworldly punditry is that they're not rationally listening. An objective account of actual words and deeds in comparison with the Rant of the Day is not as effective as it otherwise might be because even it is viewed with suspicion - as if direct quotes might somehow themselves prove the correcter is nefarious and allied with the Forces of Darkness.

However, laughter is one thing such righteousness finds difficult to withstand. Fortunately, Hannity et al are often, in addition to their more alarming and less endearing qualities, laughable. I believe Joel's combination of factual accuracy and humor may be the most effective way to counter such foolishness. You can usually get even a Hannity et al. supporter to join is a laugh at his pundit's expense, even if it is quickly suppressed. Baby steps.

Posted by: Ivansmom | April 9, 2009 10:05 AM | Report abuse

Another transcript, from an alternate reality:

Hannity: "The President's coming off a tour where not only has he worked to finsd international consensus on what to do about the economic situations, but he's expended a lot of energy and politcal capital in a campaign to try to mend foreign relations with govermenents and citizens of those countries. So far the response has been positive, if not overhwelming. Newt, what do you think about the tour?"

Newt: "Well, I don't think he's gotten everything he's wanted, but he's made some progress in improving international perception of America, and opened some dialogs that may end up being productive with further communications and discussions. Time will tell."

Hannity: "I agree. There's no sense in making instant judgements as these processes are just getting underway. I mean, the guy hasn't even been in office 100 days yet."

Newt: "Nope."

Hannity: "I've got nothin' else."

Newt: "Me either."

Hannity: "OK. We have another 58 minutes of this hour to fill, and I just don't feel like another reality-bending rant pandering to the extreme Right. I think we'll just go to commercial for that time and roll the credits at the end, and I'll collect my paycheck tomorow. Good luck with becoming the GOP sacrificial lamb for the 2012 Presidential Election."

Newt: "Thanks. Good luck with becoming the Right Wing's bullhorn."

Hannity: "Thanks. Tomrrow's show will feature a star-studded live auction for Soul of Hannity-Backed Securities (SH-BS) based on my real and actual Soul (backed by the full faith and security of Satan). I will celebrate by signing the papers with a flaming pen, which I will then use to set myself on fire! Don't miss it! And the seemingly endless stream of commericals and SH-BS Sales pitches before I acutally light things off!
Peace, I'm out."

[58 minutes of commercials ensue.]

bc

Posted by: -bc- | April 9, 2009 10:09 AM | Report abuse

Excellent Kit, JA!

I wonder if these people are fancifully ignorant or are low class scoundrels.

It might be time to set the Troll alarms and head for the bunker. I,m bringing cheap but very good wine.

Brag

Posted by: Braguine | April 9, 2009 10:09 AM | Report abuse

(Tossing a grenade into the enemy bunker)

Hannity's show is a waste of electrons.

Thank you for your kind attention.

CowTown

Posted by: jp1954 | April 9, 2009 10:10 AM | Report abuse

And people call commenters on the Washington Post's site fruitcakes? Even the most wrong-headed commenter on the Post's site at least reads the articles about what people say before they say 'whacky' things. These guys on the other hand skip that step and go right to crazy.

I think Gingrich and Hannity have been spending too much time reading conspiracy novels. Perhaps they can run together on a 'tinfoil hat' ticket.

Posted by: timscanlon | April 9, 2009 10:10 AM | Report abuse

Hey Gene, there's a deal that needs to be dealt in the kit 15 or 20ish grafs down.

Posted by: Boko999 | April 9, 2009 10:14 AM | Report abuse

With all due disrespect to Sean Hannity and The Newt, "ptttttthhhhht!"

(that was the Ohio version of the "Bronx Cheer")

Just for the record... I thought Obama did a bang-up job on his "Barack Europe" tour. It is *so* effin' nice to see our country represented by a man who not only speaks well, but makes sense sans bones while doing it.

Posted by: martooni | April 9, 2009 10:15 AM | Report abuse

In all likelihood, you were the only person under the age of 72 watching this program.

Sean Hannity, Bill O'Reilley, Rush Limbaugh, Glenn Beck, Michael Savage, Ann Coulter, G. Gordon Liddy, Michael Reagan and all the other right-wing bigots operating under the control of the mega-media represent a dying demographic.

No advertiser who wants to reach a viable market would be caught dead on these broadcasts.

Posted by: motorfriend | April 9, 2009 10:18 AM | Report abuse

What's with calling Joel Gene? Did I miss a memo?

Posted by: Wilbrod_Gnome | April 9, 2009 10:19 AM | Report abuse

So far I see no need to rush to the bunker. We've had a couple of excited drive-by posters but also some interesting stuff from folks who don't often post (hi again timscanlon). Keep 'em coming, I say.

Shout-out to k-guy, always lovely to see you.

bc, that was hilarious.

Posted by: Ivansmom | April 9, 2009 10:20 AM | Report abuse

Dunno, such a demographic seems perfect for erectile dysfunction products, motorfriend.

Posted by: Wilbrod_Gnome | April 9, 2009 10:22 AM | Report abuse

Joel, might want to reference the quote they were actually talking about:

" And I've said before. That one of the great strengths of the United States is. Although as I mentioned. We have a very large Christian population. We do not consider ourselves Christian missionary Jewish measuring Muslim nation. We consider ourselves. A nation of citizens.

How about some fair balance yourself

Posted by: eaglessouth | April 9, 2009 10:23 AM | Report abuse

Or for those new pills for guys going to the loo every 15 minutes.

Posted by: shrieking_denizen | April 9, 2009 10:25 AM | Report abuse

God loves us so much more than we can imagine through Him that died for all, Jesus Christ.

Well, good morning, friends. And what a fantastic kit. Nonsense showered in fact. I don't watch Fox anything because these folks don't mind lying. I mean they don't even flinch when one flies out their mouth.

Yoki, Slyness, Martooni, Mudge, Scotty, and everyone adding their comment to this wonderful discussion, have a beautiful day.*waving*

Posted by: cmyth4u | April 9, 2009 10:27 AM | Report abuse

I think Sean Hannity is an erectile dysfunction, Wilbrod.

I took me a minute, but Gene was referring to himself, not addressing (mis-addressing) Joel.

Nice one, bc.

Posted by: curmudgeon-1 | April 9, 2009 10:29 AM | Report abuse

And adult Depends...

Posted by: Wilbrod_Gnome | April 9, 2009 10:29 AM | Report abuse

Almost forgot..

It is wonderful to hear from you k-guy and Cowtown.

Posted by: cmyth4u | April 9, 2009 10:29 AM | Report abuse

Gotta love Newt. Still invoking Christianity for political purposes despite never apologizing for cheating on two spouses, one terminally ill.

That my friends, is the party of family values.

Posted by: lanhamjp | April 9, 2009 10:34 AM | Report abuse

You shall know the truth, and the truth shall set you free.

This is excellent reporting. I love it when the juxiposition of right-wing gibberish meets the actual words of the President. The truth is as apparent as Carolina's win Monday night.

Hey, it's a lovely day. Let's sit on the bunker porch and enjoy. Sangria, anyone? Brag's wine sounds fabulous.

Posted by: slyness | April 9, 2009 10:35 AM | Report abuse

I see what happened, I thought Barnesgene was confused when he was just indulging in a little self-exhortation.
I apologize but I think there are more appropriate sites for that kind of behaviour.

Posted by: Boko999 | April 9, 2009 10:35 AM | Report abuse

Wait a minute -- I gotta go to the loo again. (Cut me some slack, shriek; I'm on three diuretics, fer cryin' out loud.)

Posted by: curmudgeon-1 | April 9, 2009 10:38 AM | Report abuse

Haaarr harrrff harrrrfff, BC

Posted by: Braguine | April 9, 2009 10:40 AM | Report abuse

I say the calls for the bunker have been a bit premature lately. Courage, o faithful companions.

Feel like a disadvantage, when Hannity et al can lie, and you are not allowed to, Joel? I often remind myself that eventually the bankrupt mentalities are exposed in the light of reason. This is why I was grateful but unsurprised at the fall of the Berlin Wall.

Posted by: Jumper1 | April 9, 2009 10:41 AM | Report abuse

Funny bc and Mudge.

Lanham, I still remember Newt calling all men girafee-hunting piglets.

Why do I have a feeling that he said that after having a drink thrown in his face by a tall blonde and being called a pig for the umpteenth time?


"If combat means living in a ditch, females have biological problems staying in a ditch for thirty days because they get infections and they don't have upper body strength. I mean, some do, but they're relatively rare. On the other hand, men are basically little piglets, you drop them in the ditch, they roll around in it, doesn't matter, you know. These things are very real. On the other hand, if combat means being on an Aegis-class cruiser managing the computer controls for twelve ships and their rockets, a female may be again dramatically better than a male who gets very, very frustrated sitting in a chair all the time because males are biologically driven to go out and hunt giraffes."
-- Adjunct Professor Newt Gingrich, Reinhardt College, January 7, 1995, "Renewing American Civilization."

Posted by: Wilbrod_Gnome | April 9, 2009 10:41 AM | Report abuse

Eagle: WTF?? The previous office holder might have fractured the language like that, but not the current one. Anyone have the "real" actual quote he/she was trying to emulate?

Posted by: ebtnut | April 9, 2009 10:42 AM | Report abuse

The Republicans know the reality of their loss. They can not wait until 2012, they must make sure starting yesterday and every day that they and their pundits do everything possible to insure that Obama is not allowed to succeed at anything. They must lie, exaggerate, mislead and create national paranoia equal to their own. Like Rush has said, "I hope he fails".

If he is allowed to accomplish only half of what he has promised, and America wants, their party will be put on a time out for at least forty years. The party of NO is much more than that. The country be damned, our small, elite, greedy, fringe party must survive.

They see themselves as the Sunni party under Saddam and currently in Bahrain. A minority which must seize control at all costs.

Posted by: Billy1932 | April 9, 2009 10:44 AM | Report abuse

How many of you guys make a habit of rolling in ditches like piglets, anyway?

BTW People who roll into ditches with motor vehicles, gladiator outfits, and extra-virgin olive oil don't count in this polling.

Posted by: Wilbrod_Gnome | April 9, 2009 10:45 AM | Report abuse

Ditto to Cassandra's shoutout to old friends. What's Cowtown's moniker nowadays?

Posted by: Jumper1 | April 9, 2009 10:45 AM | Report abuse

Uh, you might want to update your transcript of Newt Gingrich. He was probably referring to Reveille for Radicals by Saul Alinsky, although I like the idea of Revelry for Radicals a lot better. What a hoot.

Posted by: mG54 | April 9, 2009 10:47 AM | Report abuse

Poll results for another male behavior survey back in 1995 (scroll down under the quote).

http://www.joketribe.com/96/June/Newt.and.the.Giraffe.php

Love the questions here...

Posted by: Wilbrod_Gnome | April 9, 2009 10:48 AM | Report abuse

From the May Vanity Fair, via Michael Wolff:

"The dirty little secret of conservative talk radio is that the average age of listeners is 67 and rising...the Fox News audience, likewise, is in its mid-60s: “What sort of continuing power do you have as your audience strokes out?...”

And it's not even a very big audience, apparently just a fringe group of crazy, paranoid old people.

So, you know, why?

Posted by: thegreatpotatospamof2003 | April 9, 2009 10:49 AM | Report abuse

kguy1,

I think that's the best blog post i've ever read. I've been cracking up all morning because of it. "land war in Asia", that was certainly a memorable scene.

Posted by: BigB1 | April 9, 2009 10:49 AM | Report abuse

Wilbrod, for 14 hyears I've been laughing hysterically at Newt's notion that men get frustrated sitting in chairs all day and staring at TV screens. Especially TV screens showing things blowing up, missiles, guns, etc., as one might see, say, aboard an AEGIS cruiser.

Jeez. WTF does he think men spend doing all day every Sunday? Sitting in chairs watching violence and mahem on TV.

Thank you for the reminder of that quote. It's always been one of my favorites.

Posted by: curmudgeon-1 | April 9, 2009 10:51 AM | Report abuse

Oh, good catch mG54 ... Will fix.

Posted by: joelache | April 9, 2009 10:52 AM | Report abuse

Did you hear the one about our schools no longer being allowed to refer to St. Patrick's Day as St. Patrick's Day? No, it's now "Potato Day" which according to Andrew Breitbart on Hannity is what Obama style political correctness now demands. Jon Stewart had a blast with that one. The scary part is, from one who lives in rural Maryland, is that people are actually believing this stuff, and sadly they are gun-owning people who truly believe that fascism is on the horizon. It's no coincidence that the guy in Pittsburgh drew a line from "Obama wants to take my guns" to murdering 3 police officers. It's humorous for anyone with an appreciation for the absurd but scary that so many of our citizens really, truly believe this transparent garbage from people who can't accept that their brand is dying.

Posted by: curtb | April 9, 2009 10:53 AM | Report abuse

A few weeks ago some pundit said there is no Republican party anymore, the opposition is mostly the corporate state; the multinationals who don't like some of what the Dems are going to do. This makes a lot of sense to me. We know they fund a lot of the global-warming denial, seem to stop talk of antitrust moves, etc. (I say too big to fail means bust 'em up into smaller pieces, yet the megamergers continue.) Of course, the multinat corporate plutocracy runs a lot of Democrats, too. They run the ultra-righty sideshow as best they can, but they are not doing too well now; the nuts are gyring too weird.

Posted by: Jumper1 | April 9, 2009 10:55 AM | Report abuse

Hello, Cassandra, Jumper, et al. Great post, bc.

I'm getting nostalgic for the good ol days of wingnut flybys. I guess Achenblog isn't linked on Hewitt's blog any more.

Then again, the day is young.


CowTown

aka "Jean Pierre"

Posted by: jp1954 | April 9, 2009 11:11 AM | Report abuse

Because I listen to Hannity from time to time, I knew what he was saying was at least an absurd exaggeration. I'm surprised to see it was an outright lie - I thought he would cover his tracks better.

Posted by: EnemyOfTheState | April 9, 2009 11:13 AM | Report abuse

My Bad, that copied wrong. I'll even give you direct ferom the Huffington Post...I read both sides

"One of the great strengths of the United States," the President said, "is ... we have a very large Christian population -- we do not consider ourselves a Christian nation or a Jewish nation or a Muslim nation. We consider ourselves a nation of citizens

Posted by: eaglessouth | April 9, 2009 11:14 AM | Report abuse

Gingrich (the Grinch who stole Christmas) Hannity the (delusional idiot) and Beck (the whiner) should all board a freighter bound for the waters around Somalia ..never to be heard from again. These folks are proving to be detrimental to America and Americans because they have a platform to influence the uneducated and the easily persuaded.. President Obama is trying to move us into the 21st century by admitting our faults and praising our values and contributions and at the same time embracing other cultures as viable partners in this game we call life on this ONE planet.. The three dingbats who believe that America is the sacred cow and one commits blasphemy if the truth be told should really leave America and return the flag to its' proper owners... The people with a true sense of purpose and love for their country.

Posted by: sabrina2 | April 9, 2009 11:17 AM | Report abuse

I get the feeling that we are witnessing the demise of the white, conservative, racist, assault rifle toting, lost in the past self important American male. We are talking about the my way or the highway kind of guy who's thumb we all have been under for a long time. He is losing his power and influence and he isn't liking it one little bit.Yeah, Yeah, Yeah

Posted by: goddessreturns | April 9, 2009 11:23 AM | Report abuse

No,he's not talking to you, but to have this nonsense on a major cable news network gives it legitimacy. I watched the same show and the way they cherry-pick reality is truly amazing. It's important to keep pointing this out- thank you!

Posted by: rocks11 | April 9, 2009 11:25 AM | Report abuse

I feel obsessively compelled to apologize for misunderstanding a remark to which I responded last night, misunderstood due to my own lack of background research. A commenter described the Somali pirates as being in a rowboat. I presumed that he meant the speedboats that the pirates use to chase down ships, but in fact he meant an actual rowboat -- the lifeboat from the Maersk Alabama in which the pirates have taken refuge with the ship's captain. According to NPR, the lifeboat's motor is disabled or out of fuel, or maybe it just doesn't have a motor -- I forget. But they aren't going anywhere unless they row. Presumably, the purpose of the current hostage situation is to get safe passage back to shore, either by demanding a tow or waiting for a confederate to be permitted to come get them.

What about intentionally swamping the lifeboat? Probably the captain is tied up and unable to swim.

Posted by: ScienceTim | April 9, 2009 11:28 AM | Report abuse

So now I'm confused. Obama said "we do not consider ourselves a Christian nation or a Jewish nation or a Muslim nation. We consider ourselves a nation of citizens." Hannity etc were complaining about this? Why? Is it wrong?

The Declaration of Independence and Constitution both emphasize the importance of a nation of citizens and the legitimacy of governance by the consent of the people. This seems pretty unremarkable as a statement about the country.

Most Christians I know don't require that the whole country, or even the whole state or city, self-identify by religion. I guess this is yet another expression of "us v. them". It would be like me saying that the only legitimate citizens are middle-aged white women with a child, a college education, and a youthful outlook on life. Also, a rabbit. Sorry for the rest of y'all but I hear Canada is nice.

Posted by: Ivansmom | April 9, 2009 11:30 AM | Report abuse

Some Christians have experience the wrath of God in their lives. He is real to them and they know 100 percent that God doesn't lie.

What God had promised to do with marrying gay couples, that he would fulfill.

Destruction, that is his promise. God has NEVER renege on his promise.

Wait and see for yourselves.

"Likewise, their men have given up natural sexual relations with women and burn with lust for each other. Men commit indecent acts with men, so they experience among themselves the PUNISHMENT they deserve for their perversion. " (Romans 1:27)

"Although they know God's judgment that those who do such things deserve to die, they not only do these things but also approve of others who do them." (Romans 1:32)

REPENT AMERICA, OR PERISH!!!

Posted by: spidermean2 | April 9, 2009 11:35 AM | Report abuse

Great blog Mr. Achenbach! Keep calling out these idiots for the mindless drones that they are.

My parents are in their 70's and they watch Faux News all the time, sometimes it's on all day (and turned up really loud). They're the only people I know who admit to watching it. And the Republican base gets smaller and smaller . . .

Thanks again.

Posted by: saralorenz | April 9, 2009 11:39 AM | Report abuse

OK, that was a little over the top, not to mention off-topic.

Posted by: Yoki | April 9, 2009 11:40 AM | Report abuse

Logging in from London, I don't ever see any of these right-wing pundits (Owhattashame), but I do see the echoes.

Joel (or Jon Stewart, or whoever) can easily lampoon the 'facts' given by such partisans - but the facts don't matter.

You can pick apart their argument as much as you like, but you have already acknowledged their effect on the news agenda; what they've created is the story every news organisation will have to deal with, or seem as partisan as the masters.

So, the story isn't 'could Obama have achieved a little bit more, or a lot more, or was it just right?'. The story has become 'Did Obama do OK, or did he betray every American to the aliens? (no shilly-shallying, now!)'

Posted by: strum | April 9, 2009 11:42 AM | Report abuse

I know a guy who converted after a bad drug trip where he saw the Devil. He became the sort of christian you're talking about, spiderman.

The thing is, I never heard one word of God or christian charity in his preachings. It was all fear of the Devil and death.

That's not what Jesus preached, and I feel sad for him-- or I would, if he weren't so passionate about spreading his poisoned brand of Christianity to others.

I prefer to listen to those who have found God actually helping them get out of their problems and who believe to their depths that God is love.

This kind of attitude of "destruction" to bully others doesn't make you that different from the people you call evil. I know you care, but think about that and read the New Testament again.

Posted by: Wilbrod_Gnome | April 9, 2009 11:44 AM | Report abuse

Mr. A. your ending remark with "I miss Mr. Buckley is erronious. No liberal would ever tolerate Mr. William Buckley, least of all you. Secondly, have you looked at what Obama has done since comming to office. Hello!!!!! He is trending toward the surrendering of our rights to the world.(Transnationalism) Mr. Goebels, oh I am sorry, Mr. A. if you are going to tell a lie always tell one that is so preposterious that no one will doubt it. Yes he did say we Americans are arrogant. He groveled at the King of Saudi Arabia. He is running GM. He is running the Banks that participated in the TARP proceedure. Some day historians will write a history of this period of time in Capitalist Ameican history and they will say "Obama was influenced by his Muslim upbringing in Indonesia, then under the tutelage of his mentor in Hawaii he learned of marxism, then met a woman who hated America whom he married, became entranced by a Terrorist(Bill Ayers)and his wife and finally bowed at the altar of George Soros. Do we think Socialism? Mr. A., maybe it's time to take a rest and smell the roses.

Posted by: pechins | April 9, 2009 11:46 AM | Report abuse

Hannity has a tradition of being loose with the facts. Is he helping America?

Posted by: IndianaJim | April 9, 2009 11:46 AM | Report abuse

Yeah, Hannity should be more like Olbermann who personally blamed the Pittsburgh shootings on Glenn Beck.

Achenbach doesn't really care about how valid criticisms are. He just wants to be among the large population of liberal pundits who want to bash conservative. Whoopee

Posted by: bobmoses | April 9, 2009 11:46 AM | Report abuse

Is it just me or is it getting warmer?

Posted by: shrieking_denizen | April 9, 2009 11:49 AM | Report abuse

Wilbrod! The poster was spdermean2, not spiderman. Spiderman would never say such things!

Posted by: RD_Padouk | April 9, 2009 11:49 AM | Report abuse

I love the arguments that go, "Well even if A is true at least it isn't B."

This is the reasoning of the playground.

Posted by: RD_Padouk | April 9, 2009 11:53 AM | Report abuse

I never miss a Hannity show. How can you say this?

To be fair, I have never seen a Hannity show, but have come across his name on a few occasions and after reading this it is quite clear that there is nothing to miss if I never see one (and if I did watch one of the shows there was something of more value to do that I did miss). It makes me wonder though, are there really people that listen to Hannity and Limbaugh and actually believe them? If I'm gonna crit Obama I better listen to what Obama says closely.

Posted by: glenglish | April 9, 2009 11:53 AM | Report abuse

I'm a conservative and oppose most of Obama's bad ideas but having said that, I am shocked by the talk radio guys becoming so unhinged. Limbaugh, Hannity, Boortz, etc. echo the same hysterical nonsense.

The Republic will survive Obama. His plan for amnesty will fail and the coming backlash next year will restore more balance. Until then, my side needs to calm down.

Posted by: wj03412000 | April 9, 2009 11:55 AM | Report abuse

It would be an interesting exercise to flip the question.

Instead of asking what did we get from the foreigners at the G20 and NATO summits, what did the foreigners ask of us--and will we or can we deliver? Examine this in some depth...

Better financial regulation was one major issue expressed by several foreign world leaders at these international meetings.

Posted by: laloomis | April 9, 2009 11:57 AM | Report abuse

Here's a quote from the ESV (on-line) Bible:

For this reason God gave them up to dishonorable passions. For their women exchanged natural relations for those that are contrary to nature; 27 and the men likewise gave up natural relations with women and were consumed with passion for one another, men committing shameless acts with men and receiving in themselves the due penalty for their error.

Is "due penalty" the same as "punishment?" I guess it depends on what bible you're reading.

Mr. Penchins, wow. You really believe that entire string of invective? Like, wow.


CowTown

aka "Jean (Luc) Piccard"

Posted by: jp1954 | April 9, 2009 11:57 AM | Report abuse

Now that you mention it, Shriek...

Posted by: Scottynuke | April 9, 2009 12:00 PM | Report abuse

Sad news for any basball fan...

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2009/04/angels-pitcher-nick-adenhart-killed-in-accident.html

:-(

Posted by: Scottynuke | April 9, 2009 12:02 PM | Report abuse

Amazing though people believe everything that Hannity and others spewing that they call in to C-Span and complained about Obama not patriotic enough that he insulted the American people by saying that America is arrogant in Europe.Furthermore, Beck, Levine, Limbo and Hannity were all trying to scare the folks about Obama having their gun taken away. These guys are practically responsible for scaring the another lunatic who killed three policemen the otherday.

Posted by: bigben1986 | April 9, 2009 12:04 PM | Report abuse

Spidey, it would seem God has omitted lesbians from that list. I note also the absence of the concept of "marry" in those two verses. I'm pretty sure there's no biblical verses about married gay couples, just the unmarried ones.

Perhaps I'm being too literal minded. Perhaps we shouldn't take biblical language so literally.

By the way, Spidey, you wouldn't happen to be wearing two different kinds of fabic, like cotton/polyester blends, would you (Deuteronomy 22:11 and Leviticus 19:19)? Tsk. Tsk.

Posted by: curmudgeon-1 | April 9, 2009 12:04 PM | Report abuse

Brilliant post Joel. Keep up the great work.

Posted by: hiberniantears | April 9, 2009 12:06 PM | Report abuse

Sometimes it's hard to know what's funnier; Joel or the drive-by commenters who don't realize that the Kit's a jape.

But I do know what's scarier.

I don't expect a Rovestorm, more like some passing Roveshowers...

Oy, pass the mindbleach for my third eye.

bc

Posted by: -bc- | April 9, 2009 12:11 PM | Report abuse

Fox News: Powered by the people who thought Putin had a good soul.

Posted by: hiberniantears | April 9, 2009 12:12 PM | Report abuse

Jeepers, Paul Kane is getting testy. Here's an exchange on his chat today:

Hampton: Paul: Obama bowed to a Saudi prince. The White House says he didn't. But there's video of him bowing. Is this a White House loyalty test -- checking which media are willing to repeat their lie?

Paul Kane: Oh please, all this stuff is overboard. You folks are the Grassy Knoll types of international society.
The Michelle-Queen-touching tape is damn Zapurder film of high society. Who touched who first?
"Back, and to the right; back, and to the right?"
It's like when Keith Hernandez spit on Kramer.


Go Paul!!


CowTown

aka "Jorge Pandejo"

Posted by: jp1954 | April 9, 2009 12:14 PM | Report abuse

CowTown, I always thought it was aka "Japing Punster"...

:-)

Posted by: Scottynuke | April 9, 2009 12:17 PM | Report abuse

Julius Pierpont?

Posted by: RD_Padouk | April 9, 2009 12:23 PM | Report abuse


Fox News is un-American.

The Republican Party is lost and cannot find its way. It doesn't want to.


Posted by: tony_in_Durham_NC | April 9, 2009 12:32 PM | Report abuse

If they keep this up, it is only a matter of time until we are visited by another Timothy McVay incident.

Posted by: rjoff | April 9, 2009 12:38 PM | Report abuse

oh boy. it's going to be one of those days...

nice kit, though. my approach to dealing with conservatives is often "show me the transcript" or "did you read/hear the original?"

Posted by: LALurker | April 9, 2009 12:40 PM | Report abuse

This speaks more to Hannity's audience than it does to him. His audience obviously is willing to accept his interpretation of Obama's speeches and positions rather than seeking out their own opinions.
This is typical all talk show audiences - right and left - they're looking for an incestuous conversation and talk show hosts give it to them. It's the penultimate dumbing down of Americans.

Posted by: jfhorton | April 9, 2009 12:44 PM | Report abuse

Get out of media, Hannity. Get to stocking groceries and do something useful for the townsfolk.

Posted by: glassflorida | April 9, 2009 12:46 PM | Report abuse

Nice work, Mr. Joel.

Seems to me that Hannity, Gingrich, Savidge, Limbaugh and the rest of these clowns are deliberately playing to the cretin class, fostering paranoia and hatred. And as much as I am unbending when it comes to free speech, they have to face the consequences of their words.

If people want to see the ultimate impact of all this hate mongering, tune in to what is happening in Pittsburgh today, where we are saying a sad farewell to three of our sons, gunned down deliberately by one of the devotees of the ultra-right hate machine.

Posted by: butlerguy | April 9, 2009 12:58 PM | Report abuse

hannity is flirting with treason. So are bachmann, coulter, o'reilly and rush limbaugh, who won't be happy until some extremely unbalanced listener tries high-level assassination. The right-wing toxicity has already hit the blades of the fan. They want America to fail. They have defined themselves. They are traitors.

Posted by: tontosage | April 9, 2009 1:01 PM | Report abuse

You forget that Hanity and co. [let's not forget the ever so shrill Laura Ingraham] have a lot to lose if they do not continue to stoke the fires ... the more they rave and rant about the president and his, yes, extremely dignified and successful debut on the world state, the more they look like last year's story. Watch out, there will be soon some ostrich buts sticking out from the muck they dish out from morning till evening!!

Posted by: nitellub | April 9, 2009 1:03 PM | Report abuse

Oh double crap... that Angels pitcher was from Hagerstown.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/04/09/AR2009040902195.html

:-(

Posted by: Scottynuke | April 9, 2009 1:04 PM | Report abuse

I say, that bunker looks more inviting all the time... I'm tempted, though. I doubt anyone here has ever really see me fire my guns.

Posted by: Jumper1 | April 9, 2009 1:12 PM | Report abuse

I cannot get the image out of my mind of an American president bowing before a Muslim King. A sign of subservience to a Muslim King? You have got to be kidding me if you can try to defend this. Americans bow to no one. It is who we are, and the belief of the people who fought and died to birth this nation.

It's offensive, and if Hannity brings this to the attention of the American public then more power to him.

I bow to no one, and I expect the same from the president.

Posted by: playfair109 | April 9, 2009 1:18 PM | Report abuse

The Hannitys and Rushbos have always been around. No one has ever done a better examination of this phenomenon than writer Budd Schulberg and director Elia Kazan in 1957's "A Face in the Crowd" starring Patricia Neal and Andy Griffith as Lonesome Rhodes. Here is a sample-

Lonesome Rhodes: This whole country's just like my flock of sheep!
Marcia Jeffries: Sheep?
Lonesome Rhodes: Rednecks, crackers, hillbillies, hausfraus, shut-ins, pea-pickers - everybody that's got to jump when somebody else blows the whistle. They don't know it yet, but they're all gonna be 'Fighters for Fuller'. They're mine! I own 'em! They think like I do. Only they're even more stupid than I am, so I gotta think for 'em. Marcia, you just wait and see. I'm gonna be the power behind the president - and you'll be the power behind me!


Mel Miller: [commenting on one of Lonesome Rhodes' on-air tirades after the two have had a falling out] I'll say one thing for him, he's got the courage of his ignorance.

If you thought that "Matlock" was the high point of Andy's career, think again. His very first film role may well have been his best.

Posted by: kguy1 | April 9, 2009 1:23 PM | Report abuse

Speaking purely from a scholarly position, let me just note that spidermean2's quotations, regardless of how they are translated from the original text, are from Romans, which is attributed to the apostle Paul. Paul is a revered person but not an acknowledged prophet in the same vein as Jesus (among the Christians) or Moses (among everybody Judeo-Christian-Islamic) or the prophets of the Tanakh (what y'all call the Old Testament). I believe that means that his pronouncements, while they may be given significant weight as the philosophical precepts of a great man, do not have the infallibility of a direct pronouncement from God. As a result, Paul can be in error. You can use him for a trenchant phrase, a cogent argument, a bit of guidance in a thorny intellectual tangle, or for comfort in times of pain; but you cannot legitimately use a quotation from Paul's epistles as an acceptable Proof from Authority.

So there.

Posted by: ScienceTim | April 9, 2009 1:24 PM | Report abuse

Oh, playfair, playfair. I can't wait until Jon Stewart starts showing you folks about a thousand shots of Bush and Cheyney bowing to various and sundry Arab royalty.

Posted by: curmudgeon-1 | April 9, 2009 1:28 PM | Report abuse

So Paul is a sort of old-school pundit?

Posted by: Yoki | April 9, 2009 1:29 PM | Report abuse

Who cares what Hannity -- a buy-the-book, GOP-talking-points-spouting, dumb-as-a-rock, smug, dishonest mediocre media hack -- thinks about anything? He gets his material from Mark Levin (who is not telegenic, has a really whiny speaking voic and herefore is relegated to radio) and doesn't have an original thought in his empty head.
Hannity is Limbaugh without the humor (and the girth). He's cheap entertainment. A blowhard, a liar and a prostitute for the GOP.
Hannity has every right to make a fool out of himself, just as we have every right to ignore him.
Joel: Don't waste any more ink or cyberspace on him. He is unworthy of it.

Posted by: vegasgirl1 | April 9, 2009 1:29 PM | Report abuse

Okay, there have been a couple posts that have fastened onto the one thing for which there seems to be some documentary evidence and they're running with it: bowing to the Saudi king. playfair109 declares that he bows to no one. Really? What kind of putz are you? When I was a child, it was drilled into us that a standard expression of respect on greeting someone with whom you do not shake hands (for whatever reason) is a bow.

When I was in judo, I bowed in respect to my sensei, to my fellow judoka, and to the dojo in which we would learn. When I meet my Japanese colleagues, for whom bowing is a cultural norm, I bow in greeting. If I were meeting the Queen of England, I would bow (this has not come up yet). What playfair109 and the other blusterers are thinking of is *kneeling*, which is a signification of submission. I have heard nothing of Obama kneeling, boot-licking, groveling, self-abnegating, etc., I believe because no such thing has happened. Come back when you have something real, guys.

Posted by: ScienceTim | April 9, 2009 1:33 PM | Report abuse

Yoki - That's about the way I'd read it.

Howdy, all. Thanks for the birthday wishes yesterday. That was indeed the right day. Most days I do at least a drive-by lurk here, but work's been hectic.

Posted by: bobsewell | April 9, 2009 1:34 PM | Report abuse

I would go with philosopher rather than pundit. A pundit responds to momentary issues with off-the-cuff pronouncements. A philosopher actually thinks.

Posted by: ScienceTim | April 9, 2009 1:35 PM | Report abuse

But Tim, you miss the point (maybe). For those who consider themselves "true believers", every word in the Bible is sacred and true. There can be no room for quibbling about who was actually speaking for God, or as God. Just as there can be no quibbling about the contradictions in Creation, even if Genesis begins with Adam and Eve as the first humans, but then goes on to speak of their being "giants in the earth" at the same time.

Posted by: ebtnut | April 9, 2009 1:39 PM | Report abuse

"Hannity wants audience." Well, he lost me years ago. Now, when He Who Rails tunes in for his daily adrenaline boost, instead of leaving the room in a state of consternation, I just pop in my Netflix fix. Ah, bliss.

Posted by: watchbird1 | April 9, 2009 1:39 PM | Report abuse

ScienceTim, I agree with you (though I would say theologian, more than philosopher) but I was trying, and I know this is really radical, lighten up the tone.

Posted by: Yoki | April 9, 2009 1:40 PM | Report abuse

Americans bow to no one? Not even other Americans? Not even heads of state? Not even in countries in which bowing is the handshake? Have we lost all sense of civility and common courtesy?

Of course we haven't. A bow is merely a formal type of greeting. As Mudge says, Bush & Cheney, along with every other leader, bowed when appropriate for the function.

The idea that an entire category of common courtesy and civility must be off-limits makes me ask the question I always ask when i see bad manners - where are their mothers? I know, I know, mothers don't always teach manners these days, nor fathers neither. It is the vestige of the South in my upbringing.

Posted by: Ivansmom | April 9, 2009 1:42 PM | Report abuse

I seem to recall photographic evidence of the most recent former president holding hands with a member of the Saudi monarchy, an entirely appropriate show of respect as I recall.

And governments have lots of people who are versed in how leaders bow/shake hands/salute in various situations, so I would think President Obama had been properly instructed.

FWIWYMMVHAND

:-)

Posted by: Scottynuke | April 9, 2009 1:43 PM | Report abuse

Yeah, ebtnut, that's one of the things that I never understood about literalists. I could see assigning infallibility to prophets and so forth, but Paul was just a guy, no more infallible than an ordinary preacher.

Posted by: ScienceTim | April 9, 2009 1:43 PM | Report abuse

I was just thinking that instead of calling it a bow, we should revive the old Regency-era term for what gentlemen do on greeting, "Make a leg" or "Turn a leg" (either will do).

Georgette Heyer would be awfully pleased, I think, if we succeeded. If she were in a position to be pleased by anything. Which she isn't.

Posted by: Yoki | April 9, 2009 1:44 PM | Report abuse

The problem, SciTim is that your otherwise excellent point about Paul being liable to the possibility of error and you coming from a "scholarly position," is that you're going up against somebody whose counter-argument is "It's in the bible!" as the sole determinant of "authority." Or, as you and I would like to say, "Paul, Shmaul."

I, too, was taught to bow on numerous occasions, and as SciTim notes, I too, bowed to my fellow judoka when I took judo in college (one of whom might have been John Oates of Hall & Oates, but I'm still not sure). I was also taught to bow to my female dance partner when asking her to dance (this was in 5th and 6th grades, back in the Dark Ages).

I might also point out that in squaredancing, partners bow their asses off to each other a couple of times per dance. Jaysus, playfair, wake up and smell the coffee. Have you never seen a Bruce Lee movie? Kill Bill I or II? Casafreakin'blanca?

Posted by: curmudgeon-1 | April 9, 2009 1:46 PM | Report abuse

Since we've gotten into this, can someone remind us of who it was back in the 1800's that was supposed to negotiate with some potentate for whom all had to kneel in subjugation? Even back then we refused to kneel. After long negotiations, it was allowed for our guy to offer a head nod (bow) at the introduction.

Posted by: ebtnut | April 9, 2009 1:49 PM | Report abuse

Beautiful offering, Mr. Achenbach. And kguy1, thank you very much for the reminder about "A Face in the Crowd." I agree with an earlier poster that--as much as I love teaching by showing the rubes the original denied them by the Hannitys and Ingrahams--the most effective technique in dealing with these folks is probably humor, especially parody. Nothing quite like holding up a mirror to someone to calm them down: folks will argue with your facts until they're blue in the face; but they never argue with their own.

Colbert's hilarious "Glenn Beck" Armageddon Central parodies are probably as effective a means of countering those guys as is possible.

At least, they make me feel a lot better!

Posted by: abqcleve | April 9, 2009 1:55 PM | Report abuse

The sad thing is that there are people out there that refuse to get their news anywhere else but Hannity and Rush.

There should be a law that if you are going to butcher the news for your benefit you have to air the whole clip you cut up first.

Posted by: AverageJane | April 9, 2009 1:56 PM | Report abuse

The POTUS took a dump! on Turkish soil!! (well not literally) what an insult!!! oh wait he also did it at Camp Victory l...never mind...

Posted by: HankC_57 | April 9, 2009 2:03 PM | Report abuse

Hannity, Gingrich, Limbaugh, along with Beck, and their GF, Ann Coulter, are all card carrying members of the American Nazi Party. Insult to Republicans everywhere!

Posted by: GenuineRisk | April 9, 2009 2:05 PM | Report abuse

Kguy rules.

Posted by: Jumper1 | April 9, 2009 2:05 PM | Report abuse

GenuineRisk, as much as I get behind your sense of outrage, I somehow doubt that any of those persons carries an actual membership card in the American Nazi Party. It would damage the brand and cut into sales.

Posted by: ScienceTim | April 9, 2009 2:08 PM | Report abuse

It's not subservient if you click your heels and say, "There's no place like The Homeland, there's no place like The Homeland.

Posted by: Boko999 | April 9, 2009 2:11 PM | Report abuse

I'd really like to comment further on this, but I've got a job to do, too. Where I'm going, you can't follow. What I've got to do, you can't be any part of. Joel, I'm no good at being noble, but it doesn't take much to see that the problems of Sean Hannity don't amount to a hill of beans in this crazy world. Someday you'll understand that. Now, now... Here's looking at you kid.

Posted by: kguy1 | April 9, 2009 2:21 PM | Report abuse

kguy rawks.

Posted by: Yoki | April 9, 2009 2:26 PM | Report abuse

May I just say it's really good to have kguy back?

Thank you.

Posted by: Scottynuke | April 9, 2009 2:26 PM | Report abuse

I don't mind that the President bowed. I do mind that we bend over to the Saudis everytime they deliver a barrel of oil.

Posted by: EnemyOfTheState | April 9, 2009 2:27 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: Ivansmom | April 9, 2009 1:42 PM He says:
I cannot get the image out of my mind of an American president bowing before a Muslim King. A sign of subservience to a Muslim King? You have got to be kidding me if you can try to defend this. Americans bow to no one. It is who we are, and the belief of the people who fought and died to birth this nation.

It's offensive, and if Hannity brings this to the attention of the American public then more power to him.

I bow to no one, and I expect the same from the president.

-----------------------------

He does not know MANNERS. Typical right wing, brainless nut

Posted by: mackiejw | April 9, 2009 2:40 PM | Report abuse

I think I agree with mackiejw but I didn't quote the text he cites and I'm not sure how I got into his post.

Of course, I'm easily confused.

Posted by: Ivansmom | April 9, 2009 2:47 PM | Report abuse

Here's a couple of links to photos of Bush holding hands with Saudi princes:

http://wwwimage.cbsnews.com/images/2005/04/25/image690875x.jpg

the second is from "Atlas Shrugged" - go figure:

http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/photos/uncategorized/bush_hand_holding.jpg

I must say W doesn't look very comfortable in the second one.

Hi, everyone.

Posted by: Wheezy11 | April 9, 2009 2:53 PM | Report abuse

The WaPo powers decide that these comment-thingies are not such a bad idea after all: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/04/08/AR2009040803248.html?hpid=opinionsbox1

But he never mentions the Boodle, nor even quotes from it identifiably! I am hurt.

Posted by: ScienceTim | April 9, 2009 2:53 PM | Report abuse

I think I have ADD - forgot other things I wanted to say while reading all of the posts above:

My older brother, aged 54, never watches anything but Fox. But, see, he's an OLD 54 - hasn't ever gotten the hang of the internet even. He tried to sell me his old Apple computer (bought new for $2,000 in probably 1985) for $1,000. He thought since it was top of the line when he bought it, must have retained some value.

Also, I have a job interview tomorrow! This is, in and of itself, very very good news. It means my resume doesn't suck quite as much as I had been thinking.

Posted by: Wheezy11 | April 9, 2009 2:57 PM | Report abuse

It sure is frustrating how the pundits twist our Presidents words, take every positive move he makes and turn it into a negative, and seek every opportunity to make him look like an ass in front of the world.

Hmmm.... where have we seen this before?

Posted by: nevs911 | April 9, 2009 2:58 PM | Report abuse

Viewing the notorious "bow" by Obama I have two questions:
Who are the Japanese-appearing guests nearby?
Is that really the king's arm, or the other guy's?
Of course, I'm watching awful YouTube-quality video. I suspect someone will get to the bottom of this. (I'm betting Jon Stewart)

Posted by: Jumper1 | April 9, 2009 3:07 PM | Report abuse

SciTim-that was an incredible slight. Except for "frequently off point" it comes nowhere near the boodle.

Congrats on the interview Windy, break a leg.

I was planning on an early night in preparation for a very early departure to St. Paul tomorrow, but now I'm looking forward to the Daily Show/Colbert treatments of the big bow scandal.

For the most part I think we've had a better class of drive by today. Welcome to anyone new or just now delurking.

Posted by: frostbitten1 | April 9, 2009 3:12 PM | Report abuse

Good luck tomorrow Wheezy!

Posted by: dmd2 | April 9, 2009 3:12 PM | Report abuse

Carp, I meant Wheezy of course.

Posted by: frostbitten1 | April 9, 2009 3:14 PM | Report abuse

You know how everyone snickers at the crude neighbor until he goes too far and is either ostracized or jailed?

The GOP is there now. Thanks Joel for reminding us how un-American and downright treasonous these people are.

Posted by: willandjansdad1 | April 9, 2009 3:16 PM | Report abuse

"Thanks Joel for reminding us how un-American and downright treasonous these people are."

Let me guess, a few months ago this guy was whining about having his patriotism questioned.

The bottom line is that mindless partisan all act the same whether they are on the left or the right. Just like for every Hannity there is an Olbermann. Of course, the folks who post here love Olbermann as much as they despise Hannity, not realizing that they are just two side of the same partisan idiot coin.

Posted by: bobmoses | April 9, 2009 3:22 PM | Report abuse

bobmoses said...
Let me guess, a few months ago this guy was whining about having his patriotism questioned.

The GOP has used slander and inuendo to question the patriotism of good Americans for decades. Hell Bob, that's their modus operandi.


Posted by: willandjansdad1 | April 9, 2009 3:32 PM | Report abuse

I cannot get the image out of my mind of an American president bowing before a Muslim King.

A "protocol bow" bothers me a lot less than a sitting American President wandering around the "ranch" holding hands with a Saudi Price. Hannity didn't seem to mind that one.

Hypocracy, thy name is GOP.

Posted by: willandjansdad1 | April 9, 2009 3:36 PM | Report abuse

Hannity is a terrorist whom better start looking over his shoulder a lot more.

Posted by: jfern03 | April 9, 2009 3:46 PM | Report abuse

Jeez, as much fun as its been beating up on playfair (and believe me, it's felt really terrific), I want to go off topic for a moment. Last evening I happened to go into one our local 7-11s, and thereby discovered they now have Wolverine Slurpees. And in the store there was a life-size (or maybe even a tad bigger than life-size) cardboard cut-out of Wolverine himself, looking extraordinarily like Hugh Jacman. This cut-out person was wearing a somewhat soiled and torn sleeveless T-shirt, was slightly unkemp and a tad sweaty and dirty, like he had just come from a fight in a back alley.

Now, all that may be a swell turn-on for you ladies, who get all moist at the very thought of Hugh Jackman. But here's my problem:

I don't want a slurpee that tastes like wolverine. Or Wolverine. I don't even know what the hell a wolverine tastes like, but I'm pretty sure I don't wanna suck a frozen one through a straw. Even worse, I don't wanna taste Wolverine/Hugh Jackman. Even worse than that, I wouldn't want to taste a Wolverine/Jackman outback-wandering Australian who was grungy and sweaty and just came from a brawl in an alley. If I was gonna have a Wolverine/Jackman Slurpee at all, it would pretty much have to be the clean, tuxedo-wearing one from the Oscars.

So: somebody please tell me what flavor is wolverine?

Posted by: curmudgeon-1 | April 9, 2009 3:52 PM | Report abuse

Bush holding hands was one of the few things he did I agreed with. A lot of our boys over there viewed Arabic men holding hands, (which is common on the streets, apparently, among honest friendships) as some sort of perversion. A cultural misunderstanding which seemed to skew normal American perception in a wrong and insulting way. So that was cool.

It's just the choice of his handholding buddy that left me wondering.

The only thing wrong with this magnanimous and humanistic display was the particular representative of this general area, and I say that aware of the irony of "the general area" because that area is 7/8 of the habited earth, but

Posted by: Jumper1 | April 9, 2009 3:52 PM | Report abuse

*breathlessly pausing during her busy and crazy day* to give a big karma shout out to Wheezy -- go get 'em!

This whole conversation (*monversation*?) has a/an hysterical tinge to it. The Fox guys are out to make money like any evangelical nut job out there (excluding, of course, those evangelicals who are not nut jobs). Hannity and Gingrich really don't care what they say, so long as the camera is on them. The narcissism has become quite tedious and boring. I ain't buyin' what they be sellin'.

And now, back to the mines.

Posted by: firsttimeblogger | April 9, 2009 3:53 PM | Report abuse

format error X23

Posted by: Jumper1 | April 9, 2009 3:55 PM | Report abuse

I'd think it tastes somewhat like albatross, 'Mudge...

Posted by: Scottynuke | April 9, 2009 4:01 PM | Report abuse

mmmmmmm, sweaty dirty Hugh Jackman... Who cares what it tastes like?

Posted by: Yoki | April 9, 2009 4:05 PM | Report abuse

To:
Captain A.E.Dooly - Dispatch
MAERSK
From:
HQ
MAERSK
Dooly
There is a buyer's market in former Blackwater personnel. Get Blivens to draw contracts pronto. Your reservations have been duly noted. If they turn out to be drunks or dopeheads you have my permission to throw them overboard. Keep trying until you get some good ones.
HQ

Posted by: Jumper1 | April 9, 2009 4:06 PM | Report abuse

Wolverine is a lot like Weaselade, but instead of sneaking up on your taste buds, it just charges into your throat in a frontal assault. And then there's the slightly oily aftertaste of the musk.

Posted by: kguy1 | April 9, 2009 4:10 PM | Report abuse

So: somebody please tell me what flavor is wolverine?

Small, furry and virulent with an aftertaste of stale litterbox.

Posted by: willandjansdad1 | April 9, 2009 4:10 PM | Report abuse

Wolverine slurpees. Well. If it weren't you, Mudge, I'd suggest you made that up. For onething, where do they find enough wolverines? Is this a 7-Eleven exclusive, or are the Junk Food Heaven stores (OnCue, for those of you who've never been in one) participating? if so, god help the wildlife. They'll be trapping plain old wolves and passing them off as wolverines.

I wonder if a wolf slurpee is distinct from a wolverine slurpee? Does it require a connoisseur's palate, or can any layman tell the difference?

I suppose people would rather slurp a predator slurpee than a prey slurpee - we being what we eat and all. Good to know the rabbits are safe.

Posted by: Ivansmom | April 9, 2009 4:12 PM | Report abuse

It's just the choice of his handholding buddy that left me wondering.

My point exactly...Bandar was Bush's inside buddy with the Wahabi House of Saud. These folk are not our friends and if Limbaugh Nation were honest idea brokers then Bush's connections could have kept El Rushbo on the air 24/7.

Posted by: willandjansdad1 | April 9, 2009 4:15 PM | Report abuse

I really liked this article Joel. Well done :)

Posted by: CypressTree | April 9, 2009 4:16 PM | Report abuse

Message to: "curmudgeon-1" aka "Curmudgeon"
From: Atty Thomas Frick
Sorgum, Howell & Peabody

Mr. Curmudgeon: My client, known on this "blog" as "CowTown" aka "Judas Priest," or "Jean Pierre" has suffered great pain and discomfort from being forced to expell coffee through his nose.

My understanding is that Mr. CowTown's injuries occurred contemporaneously with the appearance of the message you posted on this "blog" concerning a "Wolverine Slurpee."

Mr. CowTown will require compensation for the substantial emotional injury he sustained trying to explain to his employer why his face suddenly erupted, sending a stream of coffee onto his computer monitor and keyboard. Not to mention that he burned his nose.

You are warned to desist from further inquiries as to the nature of Wolverine Slurpees until such time as Mr. CowTown is away from his computer.

Thank you.

Posted by: jp1954 | April 9, 2009 4:32 PM | Report abuse

Hey this means they can stop saying Obama is a secret Muslim.

Bowing to other human beings is frowned upon in Muslim cultures as all human beings are considered equal and bowing is only supposed to be done to God in Islam.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bowing_(social)

Posted by: rose876 | April 9, 2009 4:32 PM | Report abuse

I think this is the line that drove Hannity & co. nuts. It's from the Strasbourg Town Hall:

"In America, there's a failure to appreciate Europe's leading role in the world. Instead of celebrating your dynamic union and seeking to partner with you to meet common challenges, there have been times where America has shown arrogance and been dismissive, even derisive."

He then goes on to critique knee jerk anti-Americanism.

I think it would have been better not to have used the word arrogance & just to have stopped after the first sentence. On the other hand, Hannity & his buddy obviously don't even know the meaning of the word context.

Posted by: AConcernedCitizen1 | April 9, 2009 4:34 PM | Report abuse

Joel, bravo.

Posted by: --dr-- | April 9, 2009 4:45 PM | Report abuse

Ivansmom, are you available to represent me in a personal injury lawsuit?

It was an accident, I swear.

Posted by: curmudgeon-1 | April 9, 2009 4:45 PM | Report abuse

I think all our Founding Fathers were sort of secret Muslims. Those Deists and Theists and Masons were all wannabes. Their only problem with the Eastern trend was, as usual, the usual problem.

Posted by: Jumper1 | April 9, 2009 4:49 PM | Report abuse

You know, reading Joel's kit again has made me realize something: Obama uses a lot of words. And he uses some big words, like "derisive" and "affirmed."

And he says vague things like, "Human endeavor is by its nature imperfect." These words are not simple to contextualize. They're too subtle. Too full of "meaning."

Hannity is angry because Obama's words make Hannity's head hurt.

This explains everything.

CowTown


aka "Juris Prudence"

Posted by: jp1954 | April 9, 2009 4:49 PM | Report abuse

Wolverine Slurpee, Wolverine Slurpee, Wolverine Slurpee!!
Nya-nya!

*running like hell for the bus*

Posted by: curmudgeon-1 | April 9, 2009 4:53 PM | Report abuse

Joel, Jon Stewart did a wonderful send-up of the Fox News gang and Hannity in particular. His conclusion: "Hey, you guys, you lost! You are where we were for eight years. You'll get used to it." Thanks for the great blog. Keep at it.

Posted by: sfw4514 | April 9, 2009 4:56 PM | Report abuse

Curmudgeon, I am available but I think I should second chair for ftb & engelmann who probably have more experience in civil law.

However, I note immediately the necessity of filing a counterclaim for injuries based on Cowtown's own, highly risible posts, which I have no doubt caused you similar distress. In fact, as they caused you to flee your workplace entirely, your injuries are clearly superior. I anticipate a swift victory.

Posted by: Ivansmom | April 9, 2009 5:01 PM | Report abuse

Joel, your column does exactly what has to be done when dealing with "unbalanced" people like Sean Hannity. Lay out the transcripts of what actually was said and done. Even though Hannity and the beloved bastion of integrity Newt Gingrich will continue to make stuff up (the same way they did promoting the incredible success Bush was having in Iraq), you must make the effort to show the public that they're liars. Keep it up, Joel!

Posted by: jaynashvil | April 9, 2009 5:02 PM | Report abuse

Priest! Priest! Priest!

JP, I'll keep that up until you come back out for an encore. Please be sure to ride the full dress Harley out from stage right, park in front of the mic and belt out "Hell Bent for Leather."

I'll backboodle momentarily, but suffice it to say that I'm Boodling from my back deck, enjoying the sun on this 70 deg. F afternoon with a glass of pinot grigo. Won't even bother tell the gnat that decided to drown his sorrows in my wine to spit it out before I send him on his way.

bc

Posted by: -bc- | April 9, 2009 5:05 PM | Report abuse

so long as Fox News continues its campaign of disinformation and right wing propoganda disguised as "news" Steven Colbert and Jon Stewart are going to be laughing all the way to the Emmies and the bank. Talk about a never ending gift!

Fox's blatant pandering to right wing-nuts makes their shows laughable to any objective viewer. One need not be a liberal only a rational thinker to see how transparent fair and balanced really is. About the only bigger pander bear on Fox than Hannity is Glen Beck.

The Republican Party wonders how it fell from power so quickly and why so many Americans consider it irrelevent. One reason is that it was led into its current wilderness by right wing talk radio and Fox. Each feed on fear and loathing and each keep trying to top themselves in outrageous and totally unbelievable claims. The DNC must sit back every night and watch Fox and thank their lucky stars the opposition's agenda is being shaped by Rupert Murdoch, Sean Hannity and the other "personalities"on Fox posing as broadcast "journalists."

Hannity is particularly distasteful because of his blatant appeal to patriotism and his positioning of anyone who disagrees with his warped view as treasanous. No wonder he often has Michelle Bachman as a guest. They think alike and believe they can wrap themselves in our flag as a substitute for logic and rational discourse.

In his own way Sean Hannity is as dangerous as was Joseph Goebbels. There I went and did it: compared that Great American Sean Hannity to a Nazi. Can't wait to hear how that goes down with his supporters on this blog but the truth hurts: propoganda is propoganda regardless of who is authoring and spewing it.

Posted by: bobfbell | April 9, 2009 5:11 PM | Report abuse

I think Trolls are an endangered species, Not many of them hovering around the Boodle.

The "unbowed" or not bower to nobody made me laugh, he obviously lacks manners.

If I was to base a fictional character on someone like him, no one would believe it as realistic.

If we were to fictionalize Fox News it would also be unbelievable.

Brag.

Posted by: Braguine | April 9, 2009 5:12 PM | Report abuse

Wolverine slurpees - I actually have asked before what flavour they were, I have a young child who thinks the greatest treat in the world is to go to the local corner store (Cnd version of 7-11) and get a slurpee.

Last time we were there I noticed the flavour, and was perplexed at how Wolverine could be used to describe a flavour - I was informed sweet cherry but they were not sure.

Now here is my problem - we had the Wolverine slurpee flavour - but where was the life size Hugh Jackman cut out - I do believe I have a legitimate claim for damages - I have been deprived of my inherit right to drool over the life size cutout while my child filled her slurpee cup.

Posted by: dmd2 | April 9, 2009 5:13 PM | Report abuse

Wolverine Slurpee's flavour seems to depend on the taster. Here in Wolverine's home province we think the taste reminds us of mountain streams, wild roses and saskatoon berries but we keep getting complaints from Ontario about the oily aftertaste.

Posted by: engelmann | April 9, 2009 5:15 PM | Report abuse

JP is giving Engleman (SoC) a run for funny lawyer dude.

Wolverine Slurpies? Plech....However, in the refreshment category I am nearly sold on a Soda Club membership...my own soda water for fizzy delights but also no plastic bottles or etc. Close to do this. Been running a life cycle cost analysis with my students on this.

WHEEZY-Breezy good luck to you. i would think that Error would send you some cosmic cadillac mojo....

Paul is not God. Nor is Paul Jesus. Intellectual Greek Savvy Organizer Preacher Disciple....not sure he would be a theologian....NFOJ (Near Friend of Jesus), with Peter being a FOJ. Not all Christians (I hate the label 'true believer') believe that every word in the Bible is the literal and unerring word of God. Just stating this for the record.

This has been a good day on the open wide spaces boodle. i think manners are important. And, we US-ians have been exempt from the knee-bend for a really long time. We took the exemption, actually. But, I would really like to curtsy once in a full-skirted celadon green shot silk taffeta gown with spangled crinolines....just once....FB? LiT? Yoki, TBG? RickOShea? You too, p'r'aps?

Posted by: CollegequaParkian | April 9, 2009 5:23 PM | Report abuse

willandjansdad1 -

"The GOP has used slander and inuendo to question the patriotism of good Americans for decades. Hell Bob, that's their modus operandi."

Thanks for proving my point. I was responding to an angry liberal who said:

"Thanks Joel for reminding us how un-American and downright treasonous these people are."

So as this person demonstrates, it isn't just Republicans who resort to this low tactic. Plenty of hypocrite liberals do too.

Do you understand now? I doubt it. You are too busy hating people who don't share your narrow views.

Posted by: bobmoses | April 9, 2009 5:27 PM | Report abuse

spidermean2 wrote: REPENT AMERICA, OR PERISH!!!

What about the rest of the world?

America isn't the only country to have people of the gay persuasion.

Posted by: tinkabell1 | April 9, 2009 5:31 PM | Report abuse

The full curtsy is a Southern thing, CqP, and used to get the complete treatment in Texas. It was a specialty of debutantes. I don't run in those circles so I don't know if it is a skill that's still taught. For further explication, check Marylan Schwartz's A Southern Belle Primer and New Times in the Old South.

Such a day! I run away for lunch and shopping with the Elderdottir and the blog goes crazy.

Wheezy, best wishes, I'll be thinking about you!

Posted by: slyness | April 9, 2009 5:32 PM | Report abuse

I know how to curtsey. I am glad to do it in such distinguished company. I think either midnight blue or dove-grey silk for me, CP, but you know best.

Posted by: Yoki | April 9, 2009 5:42 PM | Report abuse

CqP,
**But, I would really like to curtsy once in a full-skirted celadon green shot silk taffeta gown with spangled crinolines....just once....**

Me too, but my knees won't let me. Never, never kneel on artificial knees, spoken from experience!!

Posted by: rickoshea0 | April 9, 2009 5:42 PM | Report abuse

Well, bobmoses, I don't think it is entirely fair to describe the reaction of willandjansdad1 as hypocritical. Allow me to illustrate:

(1) Mr. X is unAmerican! That's how you know he believes X, X, and X, and is enacting his secret agenda to destroy the nation.

(2) Mr. X said X, X, and X. He said he believes X and he wants for X to happen. Those beliefs and stated desires are unAmerican, therefore Mr. X is unAmerican.

Do you see the difference? One is a slander that establishes the context in which all statements and ideas are to be interpreted. The other is a deduction, based on documented evidence.

It certainly *is* possible for a person to be unAmerican, and it is possible to make a reasoned argument for that point. The person who applies such a label must (a) prove his point, and (b) convince me that it is a bad thing to be unAmerican in this circumstance. (For example: a cosmopolitan worldview is kind of unAmerican, in a good way; a belief in the investigatory value of torture is unAmerican, in a bad way).

Posted by: ScienceTim | April 9, 2009 5:48 PM | Report abuse

why are you watching hannity any way? the only place you can hear the newt is on fox .or rove or coulter.find something else to report on other than hannity.the tooth fairy ,santa claus,i got it the easter bunny.no more hannity.

Posted by: donaldtucker | April 9, 2009 6:07 PM | Report abuse

ScienceTim's final sentence in his 5:48 wins my personal Comment of the Day award. *Clapping*

Posted by: Yoki | April 9, 2009 6:15 PM | Report abuse

I totally subscribe to the benefits of a Cosmopolitan Worldview.

The World looks a little better to me after my first, and much better after my second.

bc

Posted by: -bc- | April 9, 2009 6:20 PM | Report abuse

Sean is really ticked at the Obama so called "bow" and cannot stop talking about it. It shows how neanderthal he is and the depth of his insights are.

BTW, where was all the Hannity noise when Bush held hands with the saudi?

Posted by: jfern03 | April 9, 2009 6:28 PM | Report abuse

Well, in regard to this mega-lawsuit someone is cooking up, I must recuse myself, as I'm fond of both Mudge and JP (Cowtown).

I have spent yet *another* expletive day trying to use the Trademark Office software to file some responses to Office Actions on pending applications. Crikey! I'll fight with them again tomorrow and I hope to be done with the huge stack of trademark matters to which I must attend.

Yoki -- midnight blue and dove grey. Gorgeous!

And, moi? With my knees, absolutely no curtseying for me. Don't care if it's a king, queen, excellence or God him/herself. They will just have to make do without any injuries enforced on me on their behalf. I shall otherwise be respectful and keep my saucy smile and wicked sense of humor at the ready -- you know, just in case.

I am sooooooooo done for the day. I'll try to pop in tomorrow.

And, Joel, tremendous kit today.

Posted by: firsttimeblogger | April 9, 2009 6:29 PM | Report abuse

firsttimeblogger, please at least send up a signal tomorrow. I always look for your posts.

Posted by: Yoki | April 9, 2009 6:36 PM | Report abuse

Commentators like Hannity were not exactly what the founders were thinking about when they were talking about a "free press." There is a place in hell for people who accept the role of reporting who purposefully lie to people. The real problem is when you go after creeps like Hannity, they squeel like a stuck pig and complain about their rights. I am amazed that President Obama is able to brush these people off with that wide smile of his. Unlike Hannity and his ilk, President Obama is a real gentleman. He possesses a grace and humility that people like Hannity will never understand. May the "white supremists" in our country find another planet - soon. As a white man, I am very proud of our new President. For eight years, I was embarrassed to be an American. I knew that we were not showing the world who we really were. We were calling ourselves Christians, yet we were torturing, lying, and removing civil liberties.

Posted by: EarlC | April 9, 2009 6:45 PM | Report abuse

ScienceTim -

That's fine and all, but I think the context is the same in both cases.

Conservative idiots questioned the patriotism of those who didn't support Bush's policies.

Liberal idiots question the patriotism of those who didn't support Obama's policies.

In this case, I was responding directly to a post that called Republicans "un-American and downright treasonous". Kind of tough to misinterpret what the poster was saying.

Posted by: bobmoses | April 9, 2009 6:53 PM | Report abuse

Hannity spouts the same delusional garbage as Rush, and Rush is on drugs. Has anyone given Hannity a drug test?

Posted by: Garak | April 9, 2009 6:55 PM | Report abuse

This kit points out why I, a lifelong registered Republican, voted for Obama.

Posted by: nellie4 | April 9, 2009 6:58 PM | Report abuse

this article fell through.

Posted by: 12thgenamerican | April 9, 2009 7:09 PM | Report abuse

i want to read your defense of obama saying he didn't bow. i didn't think a thing about it other than i wish he wouldn't have done that. but saying he didn't bow is like north korea saying they put something in orbit. does obama realize there is a picture of him bowing? he must think we are idiots. he is a freaking liar.

Posted by: 12thgenamerican | April 9, 2009 7:12 PM | Report abuse

I had a reply in mind for Mudge, but had not been retained.

Where is CowTown, anyway? I will be visiting several municipalities this fall, many of which have bovine affiliations.

Posted by: engelmann | April 9, 2009 7:17 PM | Report abuse

Ah, engelmann -- that's moooosic to my ears.

hahahha

Well, anyway, yes Yoki, I will try to show up tomorrow. It may depend on my brain waves, although from 12thgenamerican, it may not be necessary to have any.

*trotting off*

Posted by: firsttimeblogger | April 9, 2009 7:22 PM | Report abuse

I am not a Cosmopolitan and nor do I much care for Manhattan. But I can't be from the country because I don't hang my hat on a Rusty Nail. I'm not a blue-collar union member either because I'm not a Boilermaker. I'm from Alexandria, but I'm not an Alexander and my first name certainly isn't Brandy. I work in Washington, but not for the English military so I can't be a Lime (Limey?) Rickey. (If you used plain water would that be a Branch Rickey?) I'm a suburban kid who likes to get up early but I'm definitely not a Suburban Sunrise. So I don't know what I am.

Didn't Leonard Cohen write the lines "First we drink Manhattan, then we eat a Berliner."?

Posted by: -pj- | April 9, 2009 7:22 PM | Report abuse

No time to catch up, but the Boy says that wolverine flavor is lemon, blueberry and grape.

Don't ask me how he knows. I don't want to know.

Posted by: Ivansmom | April 9, 2009 7:32 PM | Report abuse

Seems like an un-schooled and ill-oriented fellow. Not much of a thinker.

Posted by: RamuR | April 9, 2009 7:36 PM | Report abuse

Englemann, as Ivansmom and ftb have bowed out, you're hired! (Er...wehat do you charge per hour? I don't suppose you'd take me on as a pro bono case, would you? Or maybe work on contingency? Cuz I'm, like, running near empty here.)

Posted by: Curmudgeon- | April 9, 2009 7:38 PM | Report abuse

Any chance that you will be mooving in my general direction, engelmann? That we could BPH?

Posted by: Yoki | April 9, 2009 7:40 PM | Report abuse

Wow, be out of the loop for a few days and come back to find kit-o-rama! Yea!

May I say that I loved this kit! In a fit of pique, I sent it to some friends of mine. I had a dinner birthday party for a friend last Saturday night and two of my guests went on an extended rant about Obama speaking at Notre Dame. (Thank the good Lord fasting that Obama hadn't bowed yet!) The rant ended when I gently reminded them that I am a practicing Catholic and I don't expect to only listen to people who believe just as I do....they got the message and piped down but my teeth have clenched every time I thought of it so I just sent the link off and cackled wildly. I never do that and heaven only knows what I'll get in return, but it was worth it. Thanks, Joel!

Can you believe that I scheduled a colonoscopy for the same week that we are leaving for the Grand Canyon and Zion NP? I do not know what I was thinking! But let me say to those of you who may be putting it off because of the extreme unpleasantness that it's REALLY NOT THAT BAD! The Demerol/Versed combo is awesome!
The prep isn't fun, but manageable. Sooo, there you have my public service message for the week.

Haven't backboodled, so I don't know what's going on in boodle land, but I hope everyone has a wonderful and spiritually refreshing Easter, Passover, Spring break or what-have-you in the next week or so. We're a little nervous...the forecast for the Grand Canyon calls for snow on Saturday! Yikes!

Posted by: Kim1 | April 9, 2009 7:47 PM | Report abuse

Wow... great Kit and even better Boodle today....just like the old days when only a few handles were familiar. I love all the comments... even the crazy ones.

It does make me think of a study I read about last fall that showed that when conservatives are shown hard evidence that something they heard was an untruth, it actually reinforces the untruth.

If that doesn't make sense, you can read about it here...

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/09/14/AR2008091402375_pf.html

Posted by: TBG- | April 9, 2009 7:47 PM | Report abuse

You mean to say that Hannity is not a spoof?
(Are you guys sure? I thought he was in competition with Colbert?)
No - I know I'm right. No human with a brain could actually believe the stuff this guy spouts.
Please... tell me it's a spoof...

Posted by: jamesmmoylan | April 9, 2009 7:58 PM | Report abuse

Daughter and I will be getting on the train in the morning, heading for New Yawk City! Two fabulous nights in the Big Apple.

We've got tickets to see Guys 'n' Dolls (with Gilmore Girl Lauren Graham as Adelaide) and Hair on Saturday. Nothin' like fitting in dinner between a matinee and an evening performance.

We're also going to our favorite improv theatre tomorrow night; I'm sure Daughter and I will spend a few uncomfortable minutes next to each other laughing at inappropriate humor.

Posted by: TBG- | April 9, 2009 7:59 PM | Report abuse

Ignorance is still alive and well in the good 'ole US of A! http://blogs.chron.com/texaspolitics/archives/2009/04/lawmaker_sugges.html

Posted by: MiddleofthePacific | April 9, 2009 8:04 PM | Report abuse

Go to the Happy Burger, on Broadway, betw. 92nd and 93rd, in Spanish Harlem, TBG. You won't be disappointed.

Great kit, Joel. Thanks for using transcripts to tear the pundit's arguments apart, limb from limb. TV is usually all about eliciting reactions from the limbic system in order to boost ratings. Except things like Arthur, Sesame Street, and Between the Lions. Oh, and Dora.

Posted by: -jack- | April 9, 2009 8:10 PM | Report abuse

There is no joy in Minnesota tonight-
Bemidji has struck out in the Frozen Four.

They played well, but their opponents outskated them on speed and dexterity, and there's only so much you can do against that.

However, Mudge's slurpee worries did make me laugh through my tears. Thanks!

Posted by: Wilbrod_Gnome | April 9, 2009 8:15 PM | Report abuse

Not sure about Bob the Builder

Posted by: Yoki | April 9, 2009 8:16 PM | Report abuse

Good movie quotes. My favorite for Hannity is from Sixteen Candles. I'll go to Anthony Michael Hall.

Farmer Ted: I know I came on kind of like a poozer on the bus tonight and everything but, that's just so my friends won't think, y'know, I'm a jerk.
Samantha: But they're all pretty much jerks though, aren't they?
Farmer Ted: Yeah, but the thing is I'm kinda like the leader, y'know...kinda like the King of the Dipsh-ts.

Posted by: steveboyington | April 9, 2009 8:19 PM | Report abuse

Fantastic day on the Kit and Boodle, entertaining comments from new people,and clever and funny comments as usual from the more familiar handles. TBG, I remember reading that article and being amazed. I'd read it again but I took a half a vicodin for a persistent back spasm and altho' I still have the pain, my mind is hovering near the ceiling, reeling it back in seems too much work right now.

Posted by: badsneakers | April 9, 2009 8:25 PM | Report abuse

Lemon, blueberry, and grape. Doesn't strike me as an appetizing combination.

Kim, the secret to colonscopy prep is to have plenty of petroleum jelly available. That is important to lessen the discomfort. Once you get into it, you'll understand.

Sorry about the hockey loss, Wilbrod. May they go all the way to the championship next year!

Posted by: slyness | April 9, 2009 8:26 PM | Report abuse

Mssrs. Sorgum, Howell & Peabody
Attn: Thos. Frick

Thank you for yours of today's date. We have had the opportunity to discuss this matter with our client.

My client does have a proposal for yours. He wished to express his sincere concern for your client's alleged injury, and instructed the writer to forthwith advance an offer, which he indicates involves both intimate relations and travel, but can communicated with brevity in a two-word phrase. The proposal is enclosed with the mailed copy of our correspondence.

We are pleased that an expeditious and appropriate resolution appears to have been so quickly achieved.

Engelmann, Esq.

bcc: client. Mudge, I was going to take this pro bono, but thought instead I'll take it Sonny Bono, which is to say my accounts will at first be light-hearted and amusing, then oddly serious, then tragic.

Posted by: engelmann | April 9, 2009 8:32 PM | Report abuse

Enjoy New York, TBG. Sounds like a fun, if busy, time!

Sorry to hear about Bemidji, Wilbrod. They got a lot of coverage in the Post. Even a map showing exactly where the college is.

Posted by: -pj- | April 9, 2009 8:32 PM | Report abuse

Looks engelmann/SoC wins. Of course, now I'll have to sue for damages myself. The dominoes continue to fall.

Posted by: TBG- | April 9, 2009 8:40 PM | Report abuse

OK. Here's the honest truth. engelmann's 8:32 is the funniest, most layered (I was going to say lawyered) post I have ever read on the Boodle. And may never be matched or topped. Except by that self-same master (but I'll take some persuading, even then).

Posted by: Yoki | April 9, 2009 8:41 PM | Report abuse

What a list of believers we now have in the line up..it's getting awfully hard to breath in this thin air..

Hanratty, Limberger, Beckster, Billo-the-Clown, Steve Doocey (sp), Drugecake, Coultiergiest, and on and on and now Newt as well?? How is one to take all the brain power lined up to bombard us with wisdom..How do we cope...

Oh, may as well take the garbage out...more fun and it actually takes some skill to lift the top of the dumpster..Maybe I'll find another for our list in there !!!

Posted by: rbaldwin2 | April 9, 2009 8:43 PM | Report abuse

Ridicule and sarcasm are the tools used by those that have no argument to advance against the material they are addressing.
While Obama bowed low (yes he did) to the Saudi King he sent a message to our friends and our enemies of supplication and weakness. If Freud were here he probably would attribute deeper meaning it.
Ronald Reagan was a total gentleman and charming to all yet he projected strength not weakness. He brought the U.S.S.R. our cold war adversary down along with the Berlin Wall by being firm and then extending a warm hand when they were ready to listen to reason.
Gaddafi did not change his spots from being the Maddog of the Middle East that supported the Munich Massacre of Israeli athletes and terrorists by being bowed to. A missile directed at him killing one of his children and the killing of the two vile offspring of Saddam caused changed his mind if not his heart.
Teddy Roosevelt said to speak softly but carry a big stick. Obama left the stick out of his rhetoric. He wants to be King of Europe and the world in popularity but as he sold out his grandmother as a racist to make a point he is quick to throw the country under a bus, metaphorically as well.
Hitler played Neville Chamberlain like the weak appeaser he was. Hitler called him a worm. He knew his man. Obama got nothing from his high profile trip except more rock star status.
The campaign is over. Time for Obama to stay home and do the hard lifting. AFI is fun but enough is enough.

Posted by: mharwick | April 9, 2009 8:44 PM | Report abuse

I believe Engelmann Esq. has unwittingly, though wittily, created the basis for a personal injury class action. My left eyeball's grip on its socket is most tenuous after the coughing fit created by that 8:32. I have no doubt that if a pop up ad appeared to the right of the boodle asking if others are similarly afflicted we'd have a certifiable class in no time. Then again, most boodlers are certifiable most days.

Posted by: frostbitten1 | April 9, 2009 8:49 PM | Report abuse

Well done Engelmann. Well done indeed.


Posted by: RD_Padouk | April 9, 2009 8:51 PM | Report abuse

Good one, SoC.

Posted by: -jack- | April 9, 2009 9:10 PM | Report abuse

Engelmann's 8:32 was well worth the price of admission tonight.

I watch little TV and I'm not sure my basic cable package includes Faux News so I won't won't comment on those morons pronouncements.

I know my slurpees though (with a little wiki help). Not the real stuff but an imitation that is distributed by a local chain of convenience store. Even anglos call corner stores dépanneurs though these days.
Rose Beef (Rosbeef) Pink
Sang Froid (Cold Blood) Red
Bomme Galloune (Gubble Bum) Hot Pink
Swompe (Swamp) Green
Poussin Frappé (Slammed Chick) Yellow
Winchire Wacheur (Windshield Washer), formerly: Schtroumpf Écrasé (Crushed Smurf) Bright Blue
Goudron Sauvage (Wild Tar) Black
Cheddar Tropical (Tropical Cheddar) Orange

Posted by: shrieking_denizen | April 9, 2009 9:17 PM | Report abuse

Yes, CowTown and engelmann are quite a pair. Well done, both of you. Wolverine slurpees all around! (Can't say I'm really digging the beard on Hugh Jackman - makes him look a little too reminiscent of Wolfman Jack.)

Hi, pj!

Posted by: seasea1 | April 9, 2009 9:20 PM | Report abuse

Excellent article, Joel, but slub from London makes an important point: refuting the Hannities of the world just gives them legitimacy. Fox News does not have that much influence on things. While it may seem like everything the pundits scream into the Washington bell jar resonnates around the world, it doesn't really. Not that many people really care what Sean Hannity (or Newt Gingrich) has to say. So when you refute them, you just call attention to them, pumping air into a limp balloon.

Posted by: woody2471 | April 9, 2009 9:24 PM | Report abuse

In the G house, we have been lately been drinking pitchers of store-brand Crystal Light-type powdered drink--the kind that comes in little cups in a plastic cylinder.

We call it simply "Red Stuff." No matter what color it is.

Posted by: TBG- | April 9, 2009 9:30 PM | Report abuse

Wheezy, congrats on the interview! I hope someday I will score one, too.

Right now I'd rather be gardening. Nice story on the White House garden:
http://voices.washingtonpost.com/44/2009/04/09/the_first_garden_gets_its_firs.html?hpid=artslot

Posted by: seasea1 | April 9, 2009 9:34 PM | Report abuse

Make mine Manhattans

Posted by: Buddy999 | April 9, 2009 9:50 PM | Report abuse

Okay, now I'm caught up. Engelmann, a tour de force. I was prepared to refer you the case, so I'm glad you stepped in.

Re: more recent "bow" posters: the explanation of the bow is manners. Reagan bowed too, when appropriate. Read some etiquette (the word may be French, but the idea is solidly American in its egalitarian and rule-bound nature).

Re: bobfbell - there are Hannity supporters on the Boodle? I haven't noticed any yet. Some anti-Obama folks focused on the whole "bow" thing, but nobody has defended Hannity. Significant?

Thanks, shrieking denizen, for the French-Canuckistani slurpee guide. Wolverine Slurpees for All!

In case anyone noticed the news and wondered, the solid line of wildfires which sprang up in Oklahoma, fed by upwards of 50-mph winds, is slightly east of us. I bet I could see the glow of one if I squint. One estimate has 50-100 homes lost in the metro area. The line extends from the north to south border, but just missed us. Good thing too, since the field to our west is full of that g*****n red cedar and salt cedar. I fantasize about "kill the red cedar" parties, bring your own axe. The things suck up as much as 100 gallons of water per day and go up like torches.

Posted by: Ivansmom | April 9, 2009 9:51 PM | Report abuse

And hey, pj, good to see you and that was great.

Posted by: Ivansmom | April 9, 2009 9:53 PM | Report abuse

Red cedars sound like noxious weeds, Ivansmom. Do they make decent fenceposts? Around here, cedars are the hallmark of poor soil. When you see a field with a crop of them, you know it's not good for anything else. When I was a child, we would go to the woods at my grandparents' to cut one for a Christmas tree. They are most unsatisfactory in that application, because it's almost impossible to hang ornaments on the branches, and they dry out and are dangerous in a matter of hours.

Glad you all are okay, and hope good rain comes your way soon.

Posted by: slyness | April 9, 2009 10:01 PM | Report abuse

*giving Messers Cowtown and Englemann a standing ovation*

Posted by: Curmudgeon- | April 9, 2009 10:04 PM | Report abuse

Noxious weeds is about right, slyness, and poor soil is too.

Now I must bid you all good night as I soothe my nervous son, force him to take cough medicine, and lull him to sleep. Buenos gnocchis, Boodle all, vaya con queso and fondue.

Posted by: Ivansmom | April 9, 2009 10:15 PM | Report abuse

Yes Englemann and Cowtown, you guys are tops. TBG, we drink 'green stuff' which is a store brand of Crystal Light as they don't make lemon-lime anymore.

How can a pain pill make me ditsy, sleepy and slightly nauseous and yet not actually make the pain go away? Ah well, another half a pill and the heating pad and maybe I'll be better in the morning.

Posted by: badsneakers | April 9, 2009 10:30 PM | Report abuse

That's the only thing prescription painkillers do for me, too, badsneakers. Or so it feels--

You might want to contact your doctor, you might do better on another type; I know when I mentioned it, I was switched to something that actually seemed to kill the pain a little and didn't just make me spaced out.

Posted by: Wilbrod_Gnome | April 9, 2009 10:35 PM | Report abuse

I'm praying for rain for you Ivansmom,for all over the western part of the continent. We didn't get summer rain last year, we skipped fall rains, and even though we had decent snow cover, we seem to be skipping through the Arpil rains too. I include a rain for my own small plot in the wish.

I always thought bowing was done out of respect and as someone has noted, good manners, in western cultures in times past and still today other cultures. When you bow, you give up nothing of your own esteem, rather you increase it.

Kowtowing is a sign of reverence and I didn't see anybody kowtowing in any of the Obama coverage. They met as respected equals and that was really nice to see.

Further, while I absolutely bow down to the brilliance of englemann and jp's efforts, I am not going to kowtow. There is just no way on this earth I could get up off the floor.

Posted by: --dr-- | April 9, 2009 10:38 PM | Report abuse

The Habs are in the playoffs? cup fever...yeahhhh

Posted by: -jack- | April 9, 2009 11:06 PM | Report abuse

A blog on twits
sparks a battle of wits
and a vizzin from kguy,
plus a few fools drive by.

TVs are books
for these fine kooks;
let's immune, you and I
from the poison they ply.

A taste of wolverine 'pee,
adamant, quick to disagree,
and all goodness deny;
these mutants we decry.

But with curtseying princesses,
crinoline bows and tresses,
old and new boodlers nigh,
we've miracles too from on high.

Posted by: DNA_Girl | April 9, 2009 11:17 PM | Report abuse

"ditsy, sleepy and slightly nauseous and yet not actually make the pain go away" -- badsneakers, that was my reaction to vicodin, also. I quit taking it and felt much, much better!

Posted by: nellie4 | April 9, 2009 11:20 PM | Report abuse

Is this a vile canard, SciTim?

http://www.creators.com/comics/the-other-coast/31651.html

Posted by: Wilbrod_Gnome | April 9, 2009 11:30 PM | Report abuse

So many regular boodlers outdoing themselves today - thank you all for a day of giggles - Brilliant.

badsneakers hope your back feels better soon.

Posted by: dmd2 | April 9, 2009 11:34 PM | Report abuse

DNA_Girl! Wonderful.

Posted by: Yoki | April 9, 2009 11:36 PM | Report abuse

As sorry as I am that Bemidji has struck out, *GO, Miami Ice!*

I'd never been a sports fan until after a few weekends of watching my classmates leave for ice hockey games while I stayed and worked, I decided to go with them. Goggin is gone now, but I'm still a fan. Free admission, packed like little fish in cans, possibly some beer and watching a staid classmate sing "We're gonna beat the hell outta you," priceless.

TBG, have a wonderful time.

Trying to stay up a little past midnight here to watch a critical process even though tomorrow's a holiday. I may make it.

Posted by: -dbG- | April 9, 2009 11:50 PM | Report abuse

Well, Wilbrod, typically these days NASA is a contracting agency -- nobody is permitted to actually build stuff themselves. So, the only untruth in that cartoon is that the NASA guys should have been sitting at desks poring over paperwork while the lowest bidder screwed up building the barbecue.

Posted by: ScienceTim | April 10, 2009 12:01 AM | Report abuse

Miami? Bemidji State was beaten by... Miami? Those guys probably don't even know what ice looks like before their first practice. How weird.

Posted by: ScienceTim | April 10, 2009 12:03 AM | Report abuse

In 1994 a young woman in SC named Susan Smith claimed that she had been carjacked by a black man and that her two toddler sons were inside the car at the time. When the real story came out that she had actually murdered them by driving the car into a lake, Newt Gingrich, then leading the charge in that year's Congressional elections (Contract for America), made this statement: "This is an example of the moral depravity that America has descended to under the governance of the Democratic Party". That's almost an exact quote.

When the full story about Susan Smith came to life it turned out that as a teenager she had been shagged by her step-father, who was then the leader of the South Carolina chapter of the Christian Coalition! That organization is one of the prime sub-components of the religious wing of the G.O.P.

And can you believe that I have friends (albeit a minority) who don't understand why I never ever vote Republican?

Posted by: dldbug | April 10, 2009 12:22 AM | Report abuse

And the Habs and the Flames are both in the playoffs. What to do, what to do...

Posted by: Yoki | April 10, 2009 12:28 AM | Report abuse

Evening all
Wow what a kit,too much to catch up on,but everyone sems to be in rare form.

Glad to be home,this working and then driving to baltimore looking for work is....a....growing old.Hopefully I will get something soon.

Saw a few deer on the way home and something black down by the river,as i got closer i noticed it had some white on it to, with it's tail raising. Yikes it was a skunk getting ready to spray me,I hightailed it the heck out of there before he let go his odious odor.

Posted by: greenwithenvy | April 10, 2009 12:31 AM | Report abuse

Miami Ohio, Tim. Plenty of snow and ice in the winter.

Miami Ohio was a university before Florida was a state. :-)

Posted by: -dbG- | April 10, 2009 12:31 AM | Report abuse

Hey, Boodle. I'm out. Good night. This inflammatory carp tires me.

Since I'm on vacation, I won't be flying Dawn Patrol. But keep a cup of coffee warm for me and I'll welcome you all back to the tarmac. I'll even act as Marshall, but with giant Grover waves instead of red flashlights.

Posted by: Yoki | April 10, 2009 12:32 AM | Report abuse

Sending some Boodle mojo to gwe and Windy to help with their job hunts.

Posted by: -dbG- | April 10, 2009 12:32 AM | Report abuse

Hey Yoki, how goes it? Flames and Caps stanley cup?

I did have a hockey question that I was going to save for the daytime, but what the heck. What is the most important player to have hot going into the playoffs? A scorer or a goalie?

Posted by: greenwithenvy | April 10, 2009 12:35 AM | Report abuse

Hey dbG, how goes the composting?

Posted by: greenwithenvy | April 10, 2009 12:37 AM | Report abuse

Golf?

Posted by: Buddy999 | April 10, 2009 12:37 AM | Report abuse

Nah, the Flames'll be out the first round (as will the Habs, *weeping softly*). Caps and somebody. And Ovechkin will take the Hart Trophy this year, I do truly believe.

Goalie. No question.

Posted by: Yoki | April 10, 2009 12:38 AM | Report abuse

who is or was Hart?

Posted by: greenwithenvy | April 10, 2009 12:41 AM | Report abuse

The Hart Memorial Trophy: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hart_Memorial_Trophy

Posted by: Yoki | April 10, 2009 12:43 AM | Report abuse

Please to note that the Hart is inextricably bound-up with my Habs. The habs o' my heart. Though in a sort of imperialist Anglo way. Which is sad, reely.

Posted by: Yoki | April 10, 2009 12:48 AM | Report abuse

Thanks Yoki

Posted by: greenwithenvy | April 10, 2009 12:50 AM | Report abuse

You are more than welcome, green man.

Posted by: Yoki | April 10, 2009 12:55 AM | Report abuse

I saw ,when I was checking out the website,I didn't recognize any of the players till i saw Maurice Richards,then I recognized most after that.....I think of myself as a huge sports fan,but I am slowly learning hockey and it is fun.....a lot of fun....

Posted by: greenwithenvy | April 10, 2009 12:56 AM | Report abuse

For pity's sake, it is Canadian. Of course it's fun.

Oh, wait...

Posted by: Yoki | April 10, 2009 12:58 AM | Report abuse

Never mind.

Posted by: Yoki | April 10, 2009 1:09 AM | Report abuse

I don't know, the last person I met from Canada was a lot of fun........

Posted by: greenwithenvy | April 10, 2009 1:13 AM | Report abuse

Aren't you just the sweetest thing? But you can stop flattering now. My ego is well puffed. Soon I'll become insufferable, and nobody wants that. It can be brutal. Really.

Posted by: Yoki | April 10, 2009 1:20 AM | Report abuse

While Darwin himself might not have realized it, his theory nicely predicts such critters as the 9/11 attackers (put in place a policy that says, "Go along with the demands of unreasonable people threatening to hijack aircraft", and sooner or later the demands & results will become unreasonable), the Somalia pirates (put in place a policy that says, "We can afford to lose, or pay ransom for, a ship and/or its crew and/or contents every now & then", and sooner or later the demands & results will become unreasonable), and Sean Hannity (put in place a policy that says, "We are in the business of providing theoretically news-viewing eyeballs to advertisers, but our business is really eyeballs, not news, and it's OK if we get hysterical & inaccurate along the way", and sooner or later the definition of 'news coverage' will stretch to limits that some folks would find unreasonable).
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I actually find it all rather refreshing. If suicide bombers, shipjackers, and Hannity all win in the end, then that's how it's all supposed to be, I guess.

I'm guessing it won't turn out that way, though. Not just because I'd find it to be a drearier [that's a word, right? "drearier = "more dreary"] world if the aforementioned characters did well by doing not good, but because it's my experience that if it was that easy to get ahead by being a jerk, we'd all be doing it.

Posted by: bobsewell | April 10, 2009 3:28 AM | Report abuse

And mostly we aren't all doing it.

Posted by: bobsewell | April 10, 2009 3:30 AM | Report abuse

'Morning, Boodle. Well, *that* was a rip-roaring day yesterday, wasn't it? There probably ought to be a whole new kit devoted to exposing the outrageousness of Krauthammer's column this morning, but I don't think my heart could take it. I haven't read tbhe column, and won't. But reading the tease line was enough to turn me purple. I have no freaking idea why the Post even carries this lunatic, much less why the op-ed column not only carries him but actually highlights him, as they've done today -- but I already know nthe answer. It's the same answer as to why Fox News carries Hannity: because outrage draws page views, and sells. I wouldn't be surprised if the K's column is the top-rated WaPo item today in terms of eyeballs. The fact that the overwhelming majority of those eyeballs want to see Krauthammer lynched from a streetlamp will be irrelevant.

I find to my embarrassment that I posted the wrong "Today in Nautical and Aviation History yesterday, which should have been posted today. So here's the right one for yesterday:

************

April 9, 1731: Spanish Guardacosta officers board the ship Rebecca off Jamaica, and cut off the ear of her captain, Robert Jenkins. Seven years later, Jenkins shows his preserved, amputated ear to a committee of the House of Commons, and in October, 1739, Great Britain uses this incident as a pretext to declare war on Spain, launching the four-year War of Jenkins’ Ear.
1859: After completing a two-year apprenticeship, Samuel Clemens (later known as Mark Twain) gets his Mississippi steamboat pilot’s license for the District of St. Louis.
1945: Adm. Wilhelm Canaris, chief of German Naval Intelligence, is executed at Flossburg Concentration Camp for complicity in the plot to assassinate Hitler in July 1944. Details are still unclear, but it is possible Canaris was also leaking secrets to the Allies.

***************

OK, Dawn Patrol, it's Friday. Happy Good Friday (that just never sounded right to me) to those observing. Yoki's on vacation today, but says she will see us upon our return from patrol. She'll be the one in her housecoat and floppy slippers, her hair still in curlers, standing by the edge of the runway drinking a cup of tea and watching the Dawn Patrol circling the field as we enter the landing pattern.

slyness, the ham and biscuits were great yesterday; you never have to apologize for them. Today methinks there may be hot-cross buns on the menu.

Scotty, Cassandra, Brag, you guys up? Let's go!

Posted by: Curmudgeon- | April 10, 2009 6:04 AM | Report abuse

'morning all. The sun is shining on my day off. The Public Service if off today but it's not a holiday for everyone. I'll do some Easter shopping and cooking later.

There was a rabbit in the yard this morning; the first in many months. The pair of ducks came for their corn too. What good omens for Easter!

I'm afraid the Habs won't last long Yoki. The first obstacle is the Beantown Bruins. Not good. Chara is very, very good.

GWE, a good goalie is a must but a team wouldn't be in the finals without one. A pair of solid defense is a nice asset. Scorers sell tickets and create excitement, they do not win games.

Posted by: shrieking_denizen | April 10, 2009 7:20 AM | Report abuse

TGIGF? What??? :-)

Oh, a goalie is a necessity for a Cup run, unless you've got a line with Orr, Gretzky and Ovechkin or somesuch...

I'm really conflicted about this article:

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/04/10/us/10squatter.html

I mean, if you've asked the bank/owner for permission that's one thing, but it really is theft and a raft of other legal issues otherwise.

And in the D'OH! Department:

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/04/10/world/europe/10britain.html

I mean, really...

*yes-there-will-be-one-last-installment-in-the-Nukes-Take-Manhattan-tale-later-today Grover waves* :-)

Posted by: Scottynuke | April 10, 2009 7:44 AM | Report abuse

The Krauster's column is worthy of Hannity but I recommend Ignatius'. He's reporting and using factual information, imagine that.

Posted by: shrieking_denizen | April 10, 2009 7:45 AM | Report abuse

Waitaminit...

Just saw this caption on the home page:

"Herbert Wells Ice Rink in College Park, Md., is offering a two-night class on how to drive a Zamboni, the great lumbering ice tractor that men love to ogle during hockey half time."

"lumbering ice tractor???"

Puh-LEEZE! The Zamboni is an engineering wonder, able to shave up just enough ice to allow a spray of warm water to give skaters a pristine sheet to glide across! And it takes real skill to cover a rink cleanly and efficiently.

*SIGH*

Posted by: Scottynuke | April 10, 2009 7:53 AM | Report abuse

Good morning, Boodle!

A light golden hue over the Andes this morning hint at approaching fall while summer conditions persist.

Will visit the Krautharmer column and report back. :-)

Brag

Posted by: Braguine | April 10, 2009 7:55 AM | Report abuse

Morning all. Hot cross buns it is, Mudge, yum. They are a treat.

I'm moving slow this morning. Mr. T has the day off, so he didn't get up till after I did, and I was an hour later than normal in rising. Not that that's a problem...

It appears to be a lovely spring morning. I need to get the flowers planted, now that we are beyond the time for freezes. Storms are forecast as likely this afternoon; I do hope we'll have rain, to wash the pollen out of the air.

dldbug, I well remember the Susan Smith case. What a terrible crime, which was of course sensationalized. Did her stepfather do time? I don't recall. The last mention of Susan I remember was a story that she was having sex with a prison guard, who naturally got in trouble over it. So many ruined lives, because of the abuse.

Posted by: slyness | April 10, 2009 8:13 AM | Report abuse

Haroomph. Read page one of Krautharmer's thing. Although there is plenty of room for intellectual maneuvering, his column is just rght wing idiological waffle.

Seen from a southern perspective, the guy preaches from a position of narrow mindness and a provincial outlook.

Happy Good Friday for those who are on (is it the Julian or Gregorian?) calendar

Posted by: Braguine | April 10, 2009 8:15 AM | Report abuse

Morning all, beautiful sunny morning here, will be a great spring day. Holiday here, only variety stores and gas stations open - so we are off to the in-Laws where the kids will have an Easter egg hunt and we will have an early Easter meal.

Posted by: dmd2 | April 10, 2009 8:19 AM | Report abuse

It's Good Friday? That explains why I woke up in time for the Dawn Patrol and actually am feeling fairly chipper.

I could write poetry about zambonis, S'nuke, without using either "lumbering" or "tractor."

Let's plow some satin-smooth ice.

Posted by: Wilbrod_Gnome | April 10, 2009 8:46 AM | Report abuse

25 years ago, the Good Friday Brawl between the Montreal Canadien and the Québec Nordiques at the old Forum. I remember watching it with college friends (it was my last term as an undergrad) over a few refreshing beverages. Note that on March 21 they were at the 6th game of the first play-off round. The season isn't over yet this year.


http://www.fangsbites.com/2009/04/good-friday-brawl-25-years-later.html

Posted by: shrieking_denizen | April 10, 2009 8:48 AM | Report abuse

I remember that game as well, and was also watching with college roomates - that was quite the series. I was a life long Habs fan, but admired the way the Nordiques played and was enthralled with the games.

Posted by: dmd2 | April 10, 2009 8:53 AM | Report abuse

Good morning, all.

Hot cross buns this morning, indeed.
Mmmmmm.

I'll try not to get any icing on my purple shirt.

Read p.1 of KHammer too, and turned my head away.

Caged primates - once on top of their world, but rendered nearly powerless in a zoo - will hoot outrageously to their neighbors, touch themsevles to feel better in the boredom, and throw feces to express anger.

And some people watch, fascinated.

I can't.

Too much like looking in a funhouse mirror, but without the fun.

bc

Note: the previous comment was made without using the phrase "poo-flingers."
Thank you.

Posted by: -bc- | April 10, 2009 9:28 AM | Report abuse

I'm too lazy/busy to look it up, but don't Zambonis use air-cooled VW engines (or did at one time)?

Good morning, everybody (btw).

I'm sure Joel will be posting a new Kit in about 30 seconds because I made a comment.

Posted by: martooni | April 10, 2009 9:37 AM | Report abuse

Good morning to the Boodledom, and all who choose to be in it.

Well, even though my beloved Red Wings lost to Nashville last night, we're still gonna take it all -- although it appears that our new star Marion Hossa got a bit of a groin injury last night. Gotta get everyone in shape for the playoffs, yanno. The good news is that the Red Wings are probably the most experienced team now existing during playoff season.

Ah, but I do remember Rocket Richard. Man, those were the days of real hockey. Even though those were the days when I couldn't have cared less about hockey. But as one, *ahem*, matures, one comes to understand the true values and privileges of life: freedom, liberty and d@mn good hockey.

Enjoy your vacation, Yoki. Best karma thrown to our unemployed members, along with some blooming sprigs from a local weeping cherry tree.

And now, I take a deep breath and start growling at the Trademark Office software. Wish me luck -- or, alternatively, wish it luck, as I am feeling particularly feisty today.

Posted by: firsttimeblogger | April 10, 2009 9:41 AM | Report abuse

On a side note, some friends of mine scratch-built a racing Zamboni a couple of years ago, using an 5 liter Mustang drivetrain, parts from a Miata and a few other cars, IIRC.

Even had two seats and steering columns for it, one for the "up high" position, and one down low over the rear axle for competition.

Unfortunately, some engine wiring shook loose and rested against part of the exhaust system as they warmed it up... by the time they'd repaired it, rain had moved in, and they didn't get a dry run in.

Highly amusing vehicle, though. And looked pretty quick when it ran. Even for a Zamboni.

bc

Posted by: -bc- | April 10, 2009 9:42 AM | Report abuse

Toon! *Grover waves* :-)

Posted by: Scottynuke | April 10, 2009 9:45 AM | Report abuse

Oh, here's that Zamboni.

http://grassrootsmotorsports.com/articles/2007-zamboni-odyssey/

I've raced against these guys for a long time - they're a fun bunch.

bc

Posted by: -bc- | April 10, 2009 9:49 AM | Report abuse

I feel compelled to report that I have been very vaguely following the discussion for some time now and just wondering who/what the heck the "Habs" were, having never heard the word before in this context. (Not being a hockey fan, I am more than ordinarily clueless.)

I am happy to report I have Googled "Habs" and now know waaaaaaaaaaayyyyyyyy more than I ever wanted to about said Habs. Curiously, I am rather pleased to learn that it results from a misunderstanding by an American named Tex (in 1924) -- couldn't be more appropriate.

You may now return to your discussion of riding around ice on giant Salamis, or whatever the hell that thing is.

(I actually though a zamboni was something else entirely, having to do with a subject one probably shouldn't discuss in a family newspaper. But I'm from Philly, which explains it.)

Posted by: curmudgeon-1 | April 10, 2009 10:00 AM | Report abuse

*SIGH*

Well, Gary will have someone to throw the dice with on the etheric plane now...

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090410/ap_on_en_ot/obit_dave_arneson

*SIGH*

Posted by: Scottynuke | April 10, 2009 10:05 AM | Report abuse

gwe, the composting is going great. I replaced the bolts and have been cutting down weeds and chopping them small before adding them and spinning it.

Zamboni's been on my list of names for the new dog who will walk beside Cutter's pawprints when that time comes.

Time to go make 3 kinds of pierogi, farmer's cheese, mashed potato and cheddar, cabbage; then I'll move on to ogorki, cucumbers in sour cream. Imaginary lunch at my place.

Posted by: -dbG- | April 10, 2009 10:47 AM | Report abuse

Happy Good Friday y'all. I'll be there for lunch, dbG, right after the noon service.

I'm pleased to report that we are still here and housed. Those were terrible fires. In the eastern part of the state we had six tornadoes. The elements are conspiring against Passover and Holy Week.

I don't know nuthin' from hockey but I like Zambonis. The Capitol here is full of big marble floors and they have a Zamboni-type machine to clean and polish them. It comes out after hours - if you stay late you can see it - and is very cool. I would like to drive it just once but alas, it is unlikely to ever be.

Posted by: Ivansmom | April 10, 2009 10:51 AM | Report abuse

Ivansmon, I'm very glad to hear trouble has... (nope, won't go for the pun) avoided you.

:-)

Posted by: Scottynuke | April 10, 2009 10:54 AM | Report abuse

Belated good morning, Boodle. Ivansmom, I'm glad to hear that you were spared. Such a terrible thing.

I would *totally* take the chance to drive a Zamboni.

Another beautiful day here; i think it might really be spring. Now I've jinxed it.

Posted by: Yoki | April 10, 2009 11:05 AM | Report abuse

Our paper reports this morning that FOX News pundit Glenn Beck to broadcast and cover the Tax Day Tea Party in front of the Alamo Wednesday. Local columnist says 3,000 to 5,000 folks expected to attend.

http://www.mysanantonio.com/entertainment/Beck_sets_teatime_at_Alamo.html

Given the traffic, a good day NOT to go downtown.

Heard writer/professor/Bush critic Andrew Bacevich speak last night at Trinity University. Bacevich, former grad of and teacher at U.S. Military Academy at West Point, drew only one-third as many people as Krauthammer, who spoke several weeks ago.

Bacevich ended his 40-minute talk with a series of tough questions for Obama. Wish Bacevich would put them in an op-ed for all to read.

I left the reception for Bacevich immediately when I encountered a local man who served under Bacevich in Vietnam--the two really chatting it up, the local a very crude Texan. I wasn't in the mood for putting up with the Texan's lewd remarks--it had already been a very long day. And a hot one, the temp hitting 99 yesterday.

Posted by: laloomis | April 10, 2009 11:09 AM | Report abuse

My mother made good pierogi, but one of my older cousins made *great* ones from a secret recipe. Having made these (recipe URL below), I believe the addition of sour cream made the difference in the cousin's recipe. My sister says these are better than the ones the nuns make.

I make the smaller dough recipe (~ 3 cups of flour at a time), make several one right after the other, and let each rest in a plastic bag for about half an hour before use (while I make the filling). Then I'll work with half a bag of dough at a time, which will make ~12 pierogi.

I don't follow the recipe's protocol for filling, I use a water glass to cut individual circles, fill using a cookie scoop, and seal.

So cook away! I can do 3 full recipes in about 2 hours, working alone. Well worth it, they freeze well and everyone likes 'em.

http://home.comcast.net/~dyrgcmn/Pierogi/pierogi.html

http://home.comcast.net/~dyrgcmn/Pierogi/pierogifillings.html

I buy Bob Evans' mashed potatoes and add 2 large packages of shredded cheddar and a bunch of sliced green onions. That should fill 1.5 or so recipes.

Posted by: -dbG- | April 10, 2009 11:16 AM | Report abuse

Glad you’re safe Ivansmom, the video on TV this morning was awful to watch. I had a bad night with this back thing so called in sick today. Nellie, I won’t take anymore vicodin as it didn’t help and I’m still groggy from it. I’m going to stick to advil today. It has been a long time since I’ve had back pain and I know it’s just a muscle thing so it should go away in another day or two. Frustrating when there’s a lot I want to get done over the weekend tho.’

I realize there are extremists on both sides of politics but it does seem to me that the ones on the Right are far more guilty of selective quotes and plain lies than the ones on the Left. Of course I could be wrong, but I doubt it. The fact that lies just feed into pre-existing beliefs and reinforce them depresses me. Anyone who swallows whole either sides talking points without doing a bit of independent investigation is intellectually lazy. Unfortunately, I think that description fits an awful lot of Faux news watchers.

Posted by: badsneakers | April 10, 2009 11:16 AM | Report abuse

Morning All
Cloudy and cold in west by god again.Happy Good Friday to all those who observe these holidays.

dbG,it does my heart good to know that you are using the composting tumbler.Also I must thank you again for those Great cookies.They are so yummy.

bc,I loved the Zamboni race car,I guess it made some heads turn when it was on the race course.That is so cool.
Are you working on a race car this spring/summer?

Posted by: greenwithenvy | April 10, 2009 11:56 AM | Report abuse

Poor sneaks -- so sorry about your back. I've been in that boat before, as well, so I do sympathize. Have you tried those gel packs which you can put in the freezer? If you've got one (or more than one), wrap them in a tea towel and lay down on them for about 20 minutes max. Do that a number of times a day, and it should help with the inflammation.

I do agree with you about the intellectual laziness of those who do not, under any circumstances, want to think for themselves.

BTW, all, I have indeed mastered the Trademark Office software! Brought it to its knees! I've got one more response to submit (which I will dutifully do after lunch) and then 5 new applications to file. Plus, a buddy of mine with whom I work has a client who needs trademark help. It is fun, I must admit. The cool thing is that trademark law is very subjective, which drives clients nutz and makes us trademark attorneys go all in love with it. It's fun.

Then I've got to revise a software licensing agreement and get into a buncha other stuff. Gotta tell ya, it's nice to be working in this kinda economy.

In case I miss saying it, I just want to wish all who celebrate Easter to have a lovely one, to all who celebrate Passover, to have a lovely one, to all who celebrate anything else, or nothing at all, to enjoy whatever it is that is enjoyable.

Me, I'll celebrate anybody's religious holiday, so long as there is good food. And that's about as devoutly J as I get.

Posted by: firsttimeblogger | April 10, 2009 12:00 PM | Report abuse

Badsneaks, sorry to hear about your back, and Ivansmom, I'm glad you're OK in OK.

And indeed, for those celebrating holidays of all kinds, my best wishes, and I hope you enjoy them with friends and family. I know I will.

gwe, I'm glad you liked that Z. I think there's some video of it on YouTube, but I can't get to it from the office. Of course, there's *always* another cheap race car project in the works (actually, I'm involved with 5 race cars now that I think about it - 1 primary, two ongoing and two suspended, plus maintenance and repairs on my road cars. Oy.), but right now race car stuff is taking a back seat to college selections, family, taxes, writing, friends and life in general.

bc

Posted by: -bc- | April 10, 2009 12:19 PM | Report abuse

Way to go, ftb. Somewhere in the Trademark office some poor gummint schlub is hiding under his desk in the fetal position and wimpering, as well he should be.

But I can see this here Boodle needs a little sparking up today, so it's time for another installment of:

This Day in Mudge History: April 10

1786: RIP my good friend and shipmate Vice Admiral John “Foul-weather Jack” Byron, who was a midshipman with me when he and I sailed with Lord Gorge Anson, the finest sailor I ever knew, when we circumnavigated the globe (1740-44) and ambushed and captured the Acapulco treasure galleon Neustra Señora de Covadonga in the Philippines. Jack and I were among the 188 who survived that expedition in HMS Centurion, 60, out of more than 1,500 who started out. (Jack started the voyage aboard HMS Wager, and was aboard during the Wager mutiny, of 1741). Jack went on to have a pretty good career, so much so that Patrick O’Brian made him the model for the hero of his novel “The Unknown Shore.” O’Brian then used the hero of that novel, mixed in with the life and career of Adm. Thomas Cochrane, to morph into Capt. John “Lucky Jack” Aubrey of the Aubrey-Maturin novels. Byron married well (his wife was named Sophia, and Aubrey’s was Sophie), and had two sons and seven daughters. One son, John “Mad Jack” Byron, was the father of the poet Lord Byron, so my shipmate turned out to be Lord Byron’s grandfather as well as part of the model for Jack Aubrey.
1925: Charles Scribner’s Sons publishes a novel by my friend F. Scott Fitgerald, called “The Great Gatsby.” Scotty and I go out on the town and get plastered. Scotty actually owed me one, because I was friends with Cuban bandleader Xavier Cugat, and that’s how I came to recommend Cugat’s older brother Francis, an artist, to do the painting for the jacket cover of the Gatsby novel, which turned out to be pretty great.

more

Posted by: curmudgeon-1 | April 10, 2009 12:24 PM | Report abuse

2

1953: Warner Brothers releases the first-ever color 3-D movie, House of Wax (ironically directed by a man who was blind in one eye, and therefore unable to see the 3-D effects he was producing). I basically had nothing to do with the movie except that I convinced a friend of mine, Charlie Buchinsky, a Pennsylvanian of Lithuanian Tatar heritage, and who was a B-29 tailgunner in WWII, to try out for the part of Igor, villain Vincent Price’s henchman. Buchinsky came from a coal-mining town, and the next year changed his name to Bronson during the McCarthy era HUAC hearings because he thought Buchinsky sounded too suspicious. A few years later Charlie says to me, “Hey Mudge, I want your opinion. They want me to do a Western that is a remake of some Japanese flick. Whaddaya think?” “Who else is in it,” I ask. “Yul Brynner, Horst Buckholtz and Eli Wallach.” “Lemme get this straight. They want to make a Western out of a Japanese movie, and they want it to star a bald Russian, a completely unknown German tennis player who never acted before, you, a Lithuanian Tatar nobody but me ever heard of, and a Brooklyn Jew who graduated from, of all places, the University of Texas? Are they out of their minds?” “So you think I shouldn’t do it?” “Ah, what the heck, Charlie,” I says. “Go ahead. You need the money. But don’t be surprised if it bombs at the box office. A Japanese Western! That’s pretty funny. They’ll be making them in Italy before you know it.”
1970: “Paul, don’t do it! No offense, buddy, but this is the worst idea you guys have ever had. And I’ll bet that woman had a lot to do with it.” “Mudge,” he says, “I’m afraid this trainride gotta come to an end. We made this decision about 8 months ago. But thanks for the kind thought.” Later that day, Paul McCartney publicly announces the Beatles have broken up.

Damned Yoko. I *told* John she was bad news.

Posted by: curmudgeon-1 | April 10, 2009 12:24 PM | Report abuse

Just out gathering wood and was serenaded by a few large piliated woodpecker in my yard.They have such a unique call and flight for that matter.I guess having a mostly oak wooded yard really attracts most of the woodpeckers.

West Virginia has a unique program for college wannabees.If you maintain a 3.00 average throughout your high school career,you can attend any in state school for free!!!A Great incentive for keeping kids in-state.Also a bonus in these troubled finacial times.

Posted by: greenwithenvy | April 10, 2009 12:34 PM | Report abuse

Thanks for the good thoughts about my back. I'm sure I'll be fine soon (I'd better be!)

This pirate thing is heating up. It appears that the captain's attempted escape was a very bad idea as now the pirates are more agitated and angry. They also have some of their friends coming to help. This may not end well.

Posted by: badsneakers | April 10, 2009 12:39 PM | Report abuse

Jack Welch was on Morning Joe this morning and commented Krauthammer was one of his favorite columnists but he thought Krrauthammer was way out of line with his comments about Obama's european speeches. At least Welch got one thing right.

Posted by: bh72 | April 10, 2009 12:53 PM | Report abuse

Trademark is a neat field. I met a trademark specialist (legal aide) and picked her brains. Different from both patent and copyright.

Today my blood pressure is up over stupid malfunctioning printer. I have $100 worth of new (refilled) cartridges, which I can't afford, but I need my printer. It still doesn't work. I don't care for the patronizing attitude of the printer companies and their ways.

I wonder if advertising is due for a major shakeup. I remember when things worked. John Deere tractors work. That's the best advertising.

This reminds me of the junk mail the Big Telecom Company sends me on a regular basis. It's disguised as a "check" to get me to open it. Inside it's the usual blah blah, offering a rebate or "special deal."

The ones sending it don't seem to realize the impression I get of a company whose very first communication with me is a deception; a lie.

Wonder if Glenn Beck thinks planned obsolescence is treason. I do.

Posted by: Jumper1 | April 10, 2009 12:55 PM | Report abuse

I sympathize Jumper. I had to replace my printer last fall, just after I had bought about $100 worth of cartridges for it. At my last job, the company used to buy a new color printer whenever the toner cartridges ran out - it was cheaper.

Posted by: badsneakers | April 10, 2009 1:01 PM | Report abuse

Hey Joel!
Great kit... You can here the whine coming from the echo chamber from my house. Tim Scanlon upboodle made a good reference to the righties working on the opinion side of the Washington Post. I think the paper provides a few standards that require some basis on the truth.

Maybe the Post, to extend its readership should have a NEWS section, EDITORIAL section, Op-ED and then FAIRY TALES.

My new favorite is that FDR caused the depression and Hoover saved us.

Posted by: russianthistle | April 10, 2009 1:05 PM | Report abuse

Here is a sad story about a young man cut down in his prime and his team who opened up to his father

http://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/baseball/bal-othervoices410,0,4462441.story

Off to work eveyone

Enjoy your day!!

Posted by: greenwithenvy | April 10, 2009 1:34 PM | Report abuse

please sign me up for the class action suit from yesterday.
y'all are hilarious.


Posted by: LALurker | April 10, 2009 1:47 PM | Report abuse

Get in touch with your inner Italian physicist -- order a Galileoscope today, or donate some to deserving persons (not tax-deductible unless you order 100+, I'm afraid): https://www.galileoscope.org/gs/

Posted by: ScienceTim | April 10, 2009 1:48 PM | Report abuse

http://press.princeton.edu/titles/8850.html

Freshly released:
The Invisible Hook: The Hidden Economics of Pirates by Peter T. Leeson

"Leeson argues that the pirate customs we know and love resulted from pirates responding rationally to prevailing economic conditions in the pursuit of profits."

Perhaps a pirated Somali translation is in the works already.

Posted by: DaveoftheCoonties | April 10, 2009 1:58 PM | Report abuse

More new stuff from PUP. Just what your kid who got into an exclusive college needs, the latest in a series of books about these places:

Taming the River:
Negotiating the Academic, Financial, and Social Currents in Selective Colleges and Universities
Camille Z. Charles, Mary J. Fischer, Margarita A. Mooney & Douglas S. Massey

Chapter 1: Entering the Current 1
Chapter 2: Staying Afloat Academically 22
Chapter 3: Staying Afloat Socially 71
Chapter 4: Staying Afloat Financially 99
Chapter 5: Battling Social Undercurrents 119
Chapter 6: The Hidden Rocks of Segregation 150
Chapter 7: The Shoals of Stereotypes 173
Chapter 8: The Wake from Affirmative Action 188
Chapter 9: College at Midstream 205

Posted by: DaveoftheCoonties | April 10, 2009 2:17 PM | Report abuse

Let's hope that the Somali pirates understand that they have no avenue for profit if they harm the captain.

Posted by: slyness | April 10, 2009 2:19 PM | Report abuse

In these troubled times, is it wrong to want to simply be important enough to be the target/defendant of a class-action lawsuit?

Mudge, you didn't mention doing anything for John Madden's birth 73 years ago today? Thank goodness John's father didn't have access to a telestrator for the delivery, or his Mom mic'd for the birth.

I wonder who was selected as the Horse Trailer Player of the game?

bc

Posted by: -bc- | April 10, 2009 2:30 PM | Report abuse

Although here in the U.S. we celebrate Arbor day on the last Friday of April, the first was celebrated on this day in 1874 in Nebraska City.

So go plant a tree.

Just don't plant a Redcedar. Which isn't even a Cedar at all. It's a Juniper.

(This the omni version of this day in history)

Posted by: omnigood | April 10, 2009 2:41 PM | Report abuse

and Ping Pong Diplomacy...

Posted by: omnigood | April 10, 2009 2:43 PM | Report abuse

bc, not only is today Madden's birthday, it is also Dandy Don Meridith's. Like Certs, two, two, two football analyst birthdays-in-one!

Dave, I think they ought to re-title that book "Flogging a Metaphor to Death."

slyness, if they harm the captain, they have no avenue for even staying alive.

Posted by: curmudgeon-1 | April 10, 2009 2:51 PM | Report abuse

So anyway...

Following the success of A Show and Dinner, we got up rather early (for a Sunday morning) and headed over to Battery Park, in order to catch the ferry to Liberty and Ellis Islands. Gloriously sunny day, but quite breezy. NukeSpouse appreciated the enclosed cabin while I headed topside and snapped far too many pictures: the Verrazano Narrows Bridge, some huge cruise ship, Lady Liberty, Ellis Island, the Manhattan skyline, etc.

Given the great view of the Statue of Liberty from the ferry, we stayed onboard and went straight to Ellis Island. It almost boggles the mind to think of the crush of people that snaked their way through that facility daily. If I hadn't been through basic training I wouldn't have been able to visualize it at all. The National Park Service still has a lot of renovation work left to do, however.

After a smooth ride back to Manhattan, we headed up to Greenwich Village for lunch and a bit of walkabout. I think we went through the same intersection about five times without turning once. We found a great pizza place (likely one of 100 or more) that had a to-die-for thin crust with fresh mozzarella topped with even fresher marinara. Yum!

On a whim we interrupted our trip back to NukeBro's place with a stop at Ground Zero. It's heartening to see all the construction, but we didn't have time for the Visitor's Center and were therefore a bit disappointed. There's always next time. We experienced the sweet side of Noo Yawk on the subsequent subway ride, as a lady with a camera found our traveling pose (arms intertwined, my left hand on NukeSpouse's right knee, and her right hand on my left) so lovely she just HAD to take a picture. :-)

Traveling back to Penn Station and taking the Acela home was thankfully very dry and uneventful. Thus endeth a great weekend.

Posted by: Scottynuke | April 10, 2009 3:01 PM | Report abuse

Cool trip, Scotty. I took my wife to Ground Zero on our trip to NY, too.

Posted by: curmudgeon-1 | April 10, 2009 3:04 PM | Report abuse

Michael O'Sullivan's review of "Hannah Montana" contains this excellent graf (love the final sentence):

"If you've got a job and/or a Y chromosome, stay away from this movie. The only males in attendance at my screening were one lost-looking adolescent boy -- dutiful brother? -- several chaperoning dads and a handful of credentialed members of the reviewing press. One of whom was overheard muttering something about "blowing my brains out."

Posted by: curmudgeon-1 | April 10, 2009 3:09 PM | Report abuse

I just saw a bumper sticker proudly proclaiming that, "I yoosta be a Yooper!"

Am I correct that it probably refers to Michigan's Upper Peninsula?

Posted by: bobsewell | April 10, 2009 3:10 PM | Report abuse

"Turn out the lights, the party's over"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QJBxGsCJD3I

used to annoy the heck out Howard Cosell.

Posted by: omnigood | April 10, 2009 3:18 PM | Report abuse

Yoop. Yoo got it.

Posted by: ScienceTim | April 10, 2009 3:19 PM | Report abuse

I'm sure this has been addressed already, but this country wasn't "founded" by the Decleration of Independence. The DofI was a prettily-written "FU" to Britain and nothing more. This country was literally founded by the Constitution which makes no mention to a god, gods, or "creator."

It's almost troubling how little knowledge of the founding documents of this country the former speaker has.

Posted by: VTDuffman | April 10, 2009 3:35 PM | Report abuse

Good observation, VT. Did you see today's Telnaes cartoon, referencing the Danbury Letter? Quite good.

omni, annoying Cosell was the very part of Dandy Don's singing.

Posted by: curmudgeon-1 | April 10, 2009 3:40 PM | Report abuse

I suppose if I were a Yooper I'd know, but it never made sense to me why the U.P. was part of Michigan and not Minnesota. It might as well be its own state.

Posted by: ebtnut | April 10, 2009 3:43 PM | Report abuse

Exactly my thought, Mudge. They may be getting desperate and therefore irrational, but I hope for the best. Sounds like the captain is a good guy.

Posted by: slyness | April 10, 2009 3:46 PM | Report abuse

A few years ago, I learned that a derisive term for inhabitants of the Lower Peninsula is "trolls", because they live "below the bridge." At least, one guy (the science advisor for Battlestar Galactica, as it happens) uses that term. He is, himself, a "troll."

Actually, I don't think anyone previously brought up the distinction between the Declaration and the Constitution this time around, because the Hannitys and their ilk profit so little from instruction. It provides bracing reinforcement for the rest of us, however, so: good work, VT!

Posted by: ScienceTim | April 10, 2009 3:57 PM | Report abuse

In general, one wonders what sort of university granted Newt his degree that enabled him to teach history -- or, more accurately, "history."

Posted by: ScienceTim | April 10, 2009 3:58 PM | Report abuse

Peeking up from Good Friday observances; lovely day but no rain yet. Waiting to transplant some crack-bound black-eyed susans...but need the rain for that.

Went last night to a gathering of Quaker-Unitarian-Jewish-Mennonite-Catholic-NeoPagans...we ate such good food to help keep the many celebrations alive. Food is one of the main reasons to stay in touch with religious and ethnic traditions....we ate some meat cooked in a pomegranate sauce. This tasty delicacy sent over by Iranian neighbors celebrating Persian New Year.

DNA pomed a boodle summary yesterday that is worth backboodling for.

Mudge's history lessons continue to delight; Scotty Nuke's story is tender; I can smell dbg's peirogies...and Yoki explains hockey to the Green Man of WVa....good boodle day....

Posted by: CollegequaParkian | April 10, 2009 4:00 PM | Report abuse

Well, Joel actually pointed out the distinction between the Declaration & the Costitution:
- - - -
"Now, let's go back to that "Hannity" tape. Here's Gingrich: 'We are not a secular country. We're a country which was founded with a Declaration of Independence which says, we are endowed by our Creator with certain inalienable rights. Now, how can you say all of your rights as an American come from your Creator and then pretend that you're a secular society. We're not.'

Newt, you're confusing us with Iran. (How do you explain this *thing*?)"
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*thing* = link to the text of the U.S. Constitution

Posted by: bobsewell | April 10, 2009 4:11 PM | Report abuse

I do have a question. Isn't dealing with the pirate situation the point of having Navy Seals? Are we negotiating to give them time to position themselves to do what needs to be done?

Posted by: slyness | April 10, 2009 4:12 PM | Report abuse

With respect to red cedar, when I arrived in Wyoming as a very junior biologist, my equally junior colleague from California jumped on me when I referred to the local Juniperus scopulorum as a "cedar".

My response was (or should have been) that "red cedar" is a long-standing English. A 1791 example:

"Soon after ascending this branch of the [St. Johns] river [at the outlet to Lake Beresford], on the right hand presents to view, a delightful little bluff, consisting chiefly of shells, and covered with a dark grove of Red Cedar, Zanthoxilon and Myrtle, I could not resist the temptation to stop here...
(The Travels of William Bartram, Naturalist's Edition, ed. Francis Harper).

Posted by: DaveoftheCoonties | April 10, 2009 4:12 PM | Report abuse

SHHHHHHHHHH, Slyness!!! Ix-nay on the ime-tay ing-thay!!!

:-)

Posted by: Scottynuke | April 10, 2009 4:13 PM | Report abuse

I've been thinking the same thing, slyness. I also suspect the Halyburton has brought some. I wouldn't be a bit surprised if at this very moment there aren't a couple of Seals right smack dab under that lifeboat with sound gear monitoring conversations, etc.

Posted by: curmudgeon-1 | April 10, 2009 4:15 PM | Report abuse

Slyness, the SEALS, like other special forces warfighters, are stretched to the limits and beyond. SEALS are active in Iraq and Afghanistan, and other places not named.

Posted by: CollegequaParkian | April 10, 2009 4:19 PM | Report abuse

And, Michael O' Sullivan is a friend and great writer. Read his regular art reviews in the Friday Weekend section of WaPo.

And, SN and others, Wells Ice Rink is walking distance from me. You can fly in to the College Park Airport, for the Zamboni driving class....I'll bike over and cheer.

Posted by: CollegequaParkian | April 10, 2009 4:22 PM | Report abuse

NASA has just announced that the new node for the ISS will be formally named on April 14, and that the name will be announced on the Colbert Report.

"I certainly hope NASA does the right thing," said Colbert. "Just kidding, I hope they name it after me."

http://www.nasa.gov/externalflash/name_ISS/index.html

Posted by: ScienceTim | April 10, 2009 4:27 PM | Report abuse

Sorry, Scotty. It's not like I have access to real secrets on anything. And I know you are right, CqP, independent of your knowledge of your sibling's job.

Posted by: slyness | April 10, 2009 4:29 PM | Report abuse

Sigh, Vertigo Books is closing after 17 years. Locals can sigh with me...and gosh darn it, Amazon is not a local book store, no matter how much they try. I am bummed but not stunned; I know the owners and love that place. Another clean, well-lighted place for books goes dark....

Posted by: CollegequaParkian | April 10, 2009 4:38 PM | Report abuse

coff coff er
The Second Continental Congress convened in 1777 and passed the Articles of Confederation which were ratified by the States beginning with Virginia 1st in 1777 and through to Maryland (13th) in 1781

Posted by: Jumper1 | April 10, 2009 4:41 PM | Report abuse

I must protest. I take grave exception and most extraordinary umbrage over the unfounded and scandalous assertion contained within this kit.

Andy was much better in "No Time for Sergeants."

Posted by: RD_Padouk | April 10, 2009 4:41 PM | Report abuse

CP - I am so sad to hear about Vertigo Books. What a shame. I know you had a personal attachment to the place.


Posted by: RD_Padouk | April 10, 2009 4:46 PM | Report abuse

Jumper - I suppose that one with a legalistic bent of mind could argue that the country formed by the Articles of Confederation" [ http://www.usconstitution.net/articles.html ] was not technically the same country as that created by the Constitution, but in any case there's not a whole lot of God-mongering in the Articles, either.

There is the rather off-hand reference to "the Great Governor" at the conclusion:

"And Whereas it hath pleased the Great Governor of the World to incline the hearts of the legislatures we respectively represent in Congress ..."

Posted by: bobsewell | April 10, 2009 4:58 PM | Report abuse

CqP, I'm sorry to hear about your bookstore. Here's a metaphor for our times: the used bookstore I passed on my way to work for many years closed about a year ago. It was replaced by ... a tattoo parlor. Literature for the ADHD generation.

"Born Too Loose"

Posted by: kbertocci | April 10, 2009 5:21 PM | Report abuse

Yep, I know quite a few Yoopers, and I've even been up there a few times. It's very, very lovely on one's way up to Isle Royale, which is also a terrific place to explore (at least it was when I was there, um, *ahem* approximately 50 years ago).

When I told my tax professor in law school that I was a Michigander, he said: "No, dear, you're a Michigoose" whereupon I was almost tempted. . . .

Well, today I filed three somewhat complicated responses to three Office Actions from the Trademark Office, and then filed five new applications. Those were easy, except for one wherein we are claiming color as part of the mark. That entails describing the color design of the mark in excruciating detail -- which took me about 10 minutes, really. Now I feel pretty much like I've been hit by a Zamboni.

Tomorrow I'll Zamboni over to the software license revisions and related matters.

Geez, it hasn't even started yet and now my weekend has disappeared. T'ain't fair!

Go get 'em Mudge. Clear the decks, k?

Posted by: firsttimeblogger | April 10, 2009 5:34 PM | Report abuse

Nooooo, Zamboni tune cooties, and I'm not talking about "I Want to Drive the Zamboni" (one of frostson's first 5 words was Zamboni). No, I'm talking about The Zambonis the world's best all hockey band. Hockey Monkey is my favorite
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UOlQbrrOprQ


In St. Paul for the weekend, though Mr. F is in DC. I think he got the better end of this deal but I am going to enjoy a quiet weekend in the hip urban loft where none of my constituents can find me.

Good weekend to all.

Posted by: frostbitten1 | April 10, 2009 6:13 PM | Report abuse

*sigh* Somebody want to explain to me (patiently, using small words) why some WaPo editor seems to think a feature story on Bush in retirement in Texas, wallowing in his delusions, is worthy of the lead story, and that Rove running his mouth is worthy of the number two slot? And this while there's the economy, a bombing in Iraq, and a hostage situation that has captured a lot of attention, lower down on the page?

Is Bush *really* the most important story of the day? I need a whole ----load of convincing. I need a whole lot of convincing that very many people even want to read it.

Posted by: Curmudgeon- | April 10, 2009 7:25 PM | Report abuse

How nice to see CP drop in earlier!

I've had a lovely day off: went with friends to the local College of Art and Design to look at student work; some really good stuff. *Very* impressed with a detailed narrative piece called "Cyberpunk Knock" and a rather sweet, geometric, Chagall-like dream landscape that was nevertheless recognizably located in this part of the world. Then a street lunch and coffee, and home to do the laundry. Now making a rather exotic-type pasta for supper. And then, just because I am so very very cool, I shall spend Friday evening folding laundry and ironing and watching the hockey game.

I really need to get out more. Especially tomorrow, when my Flames play the Oilers at the 'Dome, just two blocks away. Win or lose, it's going to be loud around here in the dark hours.

Good thing my parking is underground, or I might find it usurped.

Hope everybody is well and enjoying The End of the Work Week.

Posted by: Yoki | April 10, 2009 7:32 PM | Report abuse

mudge, my theory is that they know they'll get a lot of page views from people who are angry about these topics or stories. a lot of the titles seemed designed to get you to click on the story even more than to represent the point of the story accurately.

cp, sorry to hear about your bookstore.

in other news, i get a kick out of the peeps contest:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/gallery/2009/04/10/GA2009041001969.html

Posted by: LALurker | April 10, 2009 7:34 PM | Report abuse

God loves us so much more than we can imagine through Him that died for all, Jesus Christ.

Hello, friends. Mudge, I most certainly agree with you on that thinking. I also hope the pirates don't harm the captain of that ship. Just checking in. The g-girl and I went to church this afternoon, and had lunch afterwards. I didn't understand much of the sermon, but always enjoy being in church. It was my first time attending a church that was "not" people of color. So different in the presentation of the sermon, and everything is so quiet. Even the choir seemed quiet. I guess I'm just used to a little more spirit, but it's all good.

Some say eleven o'clock on Sunday is the most racist time in America. We all assemble to worship God, the same God, yet we do this with people that look like us. We still have much work to do, but small steps, small steps.

I'm a bit tired, so to bed for me. Have a good evening, and an even better Easter weekend. Sweet dreams.

Posted by: cmyth4u | April 10, 2009 7:39 PM | Report abuse

Well, you may be right, LAL, but I just think enraging your audience is a crummy way to get pageviews.

I think the Peeps diorama of the jetliner on the Hudson with Peeps standing on the wings is hysterical. mAde me laugh out loud.

Posted by: Curmudgeon- | April 10, 2009 7:42 PM | Report abuse

Cassandra, you clearly took a *big* step today. If you'd been in an Anglican congregation, you probably wouldn't have felt you were in church at all. So quiet and retiring as to be nearly imperceptible. :-)

Sleep well, dear friend.

Posted by: Yoki | April 10, 2009 7:45 PM | Report abuse

The Peeps contest is always great!

Posted by: bobsewell | April 10, 2009 7:47 PM | Report abuse

This is a sad commentary on our country.

http://www.nbcphiladelphia.com/news/local/Bidens-Puppy-Breeder-Never-never-never-again.html?yhp=1

This is how they spend people's donations. Not helping animals. Harrassing people, glomming publicity, and so on.

Posted by: Wilbrod_Gnome | April 10, 2009 7:53 PM | Report abuse

Yes, Cassandra, for Good Friday today our choir was pretty subdued. Lovely, but not very spirited (I'm about to go do it all over again). We'll make a lot of noise on Sunday, though. Our director likes to shake things up a bit.

One thing I like about the church we attend is that, despite being Episcopalian, it is not all-white. We have not enough, but more than some, black and Hispanic members. One Hispanic woman is a particular favorite because she tends to bring tres leches cake to big events, also homemade tamales. For special occasions, some of the African-American families wear absolutely gorgeous clothes (I think many are originally from Ghana). Some dressmaker locally is doing astonishing things.

Posted by: Ivansmom | April 10, 2009 7:54 PM | Report abuse

yeah, i don't like it either. otoh, i do want the paper to stay afloat financially.

i liked the escher peeps, the beyonce single lady peeps, the sweeny todd peeps and the passover peeps. the whole thing cracks me up.

Posted by: LALurker | April 10, 2009 7:56 PM | Report abuse

I thought Andy Griffith was awfully good in "What it was, was football" as well:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oNxLxTZHKM8

Posted by: -pj- | April 10, 2009 8:18 PM | Report abuse

Hope every one had a great day, this story put a smile on my face.

Seems Billy Bob Thornton has cancelled his bands remaining tour dates (opening for Willie Nelson). Not a moment too soon.

http://lfpress.ca/newsstand/CityandRegion/2009/04/10/9079821.html

Posted by: dmd2 | April 10, 2009 8:53 PM | Report abuse

The best thing would be for everyone, at least non faust news, to ignore cheney and rove. Let them stew in their own juices.

Posted by: bh72 | April 10, 2009 8:53 PM | Report abuse

Tamales seem to require a lot of work. Anyone making a batch for potluck merits praise.

I threw together a wetland bed for native iris (Iris hexagona) and American crinum, digging out a spot, putting in flexible plastic liner sheeting, and refilling the area with sand and peat moss. Should it turn out too soggy, I can always punch a few holes in the bottom.

Posted by: DaveoftheCoonties | April 10, 2009 9:18 PM | Report abuse

Hi Boodle,

Back from Russia. Will need to get my Soyuz/etc pics up for folks to see. Actually I've been back for a week, but just getting a chance to catch up here. And I'm reminded why I love this Boodle so much - Hannity, Newt, Joel on NASA, , more flowers, and both NHL and college hockey postings (I was at last night's Frozen Four semis, great games). And we get to name Node 3 on the Space Station during a Colbert Report show next week. Not sure I can catch up with all I've missed, but I am enjoying every minute of my reading.

Posted by: Radz | April 10, 2009 10:10 PM | Report abuse

Hi Boodle,

Back from Russia. Will need to get my Soyuz/etc pics up for folks to see. Actually I've been back for a week, but just getting a chance to catch up here. And I'm reminded why I love this Boodle so much - Hannity, Newt, Joel on NASA, , more flowers, and both NHL and college hockey postings (I was at last night's Frozen Four semis, great games). And we get to name Node 3 on the Space Station during a Colbert Report show next week. Not sure I can catch up with all I've missed, but I am enjoying every minute of my reading.

Posted by: Radz | April 10, 2009 10:12 PM | Report abuse

Radz! Welcome back, and welcome home. Can't wait for your pics, but don't worry about Backboodling. Just come on in.

Performance Art:

http://www.youtube.com/watchv=7EYAUazLI9k

Posted by: Yoki | April 10, 2009 10:24 PM | Report abuse

Hi Radz,
Will love stories from your travels.

Cassandra,
Today, at outdoor stations of the cross at the Franciscan Monastery (Brookland neighborhood of DC), the small groups walking this path of sorrow were very mixed. My side of town: NE DC/Prince George's Corridor is majority African American, but a mix too of white and Latino. Because the Howard Divinity School borders the Monastery, the mix of people together and separately keeping Good Friday's observance span all colors. You would have loved this. And, the stations are set in a valley, so we walk among

daffies
periwinkle
hellebore
camellias
early tulips
pansies

with the thrusting force of leaves and stems of these April-May blooms
Solomon's seal
peonies
roses
larkspur
guinea hen lily
columbine
nigella
lilies

The lesson of the stations is forgiveness despite suffering; and a graphic depiction of torture, false accusation, being a political prisoner, being powerless in actions but powerful in chosen attitude...and love. Good Friday can -- and should -- be a clarion call to work for justice and succor for those who suffer. The Buddhist message -- one of them -- is to work for the relieve of suffering among sentient beings. The best lessons of all faith communities often distill into the same essence.

GNite, C'andra: I bet that ggirl will be darling in her Easter finery and delight in the treats.

Posted by: CollegequaParkian | April 10, 2009 10:28 PM | Report abuse

Hi, Yoki, your 10:24 link doesn't work. What's on your mind?

Posted by: Jumper1 | April 11, 2009 12:19 AM | Report abuse

Hello friend Jumper.

Search YouTube for Sound of Music Central Station Antwerp.

Amusing. Or not. EYE think it is. Totally staged, but very funny.

Posted by: Yoki | April 11, 2009 1:07 AM | Report abuse

Doh!
and
So
to bed.

Posted by: Jumper1 | April 11, 2009 1:36 AM | Report abuse

here it is -
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0UE3CNu_rtY

very cute.

Posted by: LALurker | April 11, 2009 1:38 AM | Report abuse

There’s a rat that come around the house almost every night and it annoys the heck out of me. I think lives in my neighbour’s storage area. I had a small piece of soap (those that are supplied in hotels) near the basin at the back of the house. The rat gnawed a corner off it. Next day, it carried the whole piece of soap away. I had hoped the rat would choke on it but it didn’t. Instead, it came back again, managed to get into the kitchen and gnawed at the cap of my apple cider vinegar. After a couple of days it got into the kitchen yet again and gnawed at the metal cap of my cough medicine. Now the base of cap of my cough medicine curves up like flower petals. On the same night, it gnawed the cap off my dog’s skin and coat supplement and drank most of it.

I bet, now, that rat has the cleanest gut in the rat world and the best looking skin and coat. Harrrruph.

Posted by: rainforest1 | April 11, 2009 3:49 AM | Report abuse

Rat hygeine, rainforest? Who knew???

The Escher Peeps had me falling outta my chair!

And so, on to yet another busy weekend before a week of training somewhere in Sneaks' general vicinity... We seem to be navigating Travel Month in the NukeAbode.

*making-sure-bumbershoot-is-in-hand-before-venturing-out-and-hoping-our-Southern-contingent-avoided-the-really-heavy-weather Grover waves* :-)

Posted by: Scottynuke | April 11, 2009 5:51 AM | Report abuse

Oh, and hiya Radz!

Hiya Radz!

:-)

Posted by: Scottynuke | April 11, 2009 5:53 AM | Report abuse

God loves us so much more than we can imagine through Him that died for all, Jesus Christ.

Morning, friends. Beautiful, just beautiful, CP, the words and the thought. And the g-girl will probably act up with the finery. She loves to climb now. Not good with finery.

Yoki and Ivansmom, after spending the day with a five year-old, quiet is very good. In fact, it's priceless.

Did anyone find, yello? Slyness, Mudge, Scotty, Martooni, and everyone here, have a great day. *waving*

Slyness, saw on the news that folks in your neck of the woods had bad storms last night. Hope everyone is okay.

Posted by: cmyth4u | April 11, 2009 7:19 AM | Report abuse

'morning all. Nice sunny Easter weekend here. Lots of crocus , hyacinths, pusckinia etc. have bloomed in the flowerbeds. Even Christmas roses! (dmd's hellebores).
Daffodils will open soon.

I can hardly believe that dog breeder story Wilbrod. Being vilified for breeding good quality pure bred puppies just isn't right.

I am amused by the coverage of the piracy in the gulf of Aden. It's been going on for years. It took the seizure of a (rare) vessel flying Old Glory for the US media to notice. One Canadian connection: a local Somali businessman is believed to be an important investor in the piracy business. Locals don't have the money for boats and engines so elements of the Somali diaspora are believed to finance the operations against the payment of a substantial cut of the ransoms.

Posted by: shrieking_denizen | April 11, 2009 9:06 AM | Report abuse

Good morning boodle! Fire up the fax-fried polenta slices with spicy organic sausage and a little sun dried tomato basil pesto for breakfast. Perhaps more for lunch today with mushrooms and onion.

Spring park clean up this morning for St. Paul city parks. Made it to the top of the list for a garden plot (flowers/ornamentals only) in the park across the street. Surely I'll get a high traffic area that will be trampled at each free concert all summer long. But, there are no bad garden plots, just bad gardeners, or something like that.

SD-our Somali community is much split over piracy and other goings on at home. But, you are right, for most of the US a problem doesn't exist until "we" the mainstream is affected (a blonde white girl disappearance if you will).

Off to get ready for the park. Bought new garden gloves for the occasion. Do hope to make a good impression on the volunteer coordinator.

Posted by: frostbitten1 | April 11, 2009 9:29 AM | Report abuse

Howdy y'all on this bright beautiful sunny spring morning. I have laundry to start, groceries to acquire, vegetables to chop for tomorrow, and, alas, class preparation to do. I certainly don't want to be finishing that tomorrow night. All the Ivansclan seem to be a bit better today, hurrah.

The rabbit is positively peripatetic.

Posted by: Ivansmom | April 11, 2009 10:17 AM | Report abuse

Morning, all. Sorry to be late, I had to go to the Elderdottir's condo and wait for the person who measured for new flooring in the kitchen, as said dottir had to go to work.

Cassandra, one clap of thunder had me peeling myself off the ceiling, but no damage on this end of town. Mr. T poured seven tenths of an inch out of the rain gauge. A good thing!

Welcome home, Radz, I too look forward to your pictures.

Frosti, how kewl to get a garden! I had to buy new garden gloves myself, my old nitrile ones had too many holes in them. What will you plant?

Yesterday, I put a geranium, an asparagus fern, and a dracena in each of the two big pots on the front porch. The Boston ferns I bought fit nicely into the little concrete urns from Mr. T's mother, so they are on either side of the front door. I planted the varigated lantana in the back. Maybe the first of the week I'll get the tomatoes and peppers in the ground. I also have zinnia and cosmos seed, plue lily of the valley and anemone corms to plant. I think I'll take the dahlias to the mountains.

I love spring!

Posted by: slyness | April 11, 2009 10:20 AM | Report abuse

STEREO spacecraft to snoop local LaGrange points for possible asteroids.
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/04/090409153020.htm

Posted by: Jumper1 | April 11, 2009 10:40 AM | Report abuse

'Morning, Boodle. Rainy but warmish here this morning. Already been to Chik-fil-a, the county landfill, two nurseries (bought 14 scoops of "mixsoil" for our garden and some for the neighbor, totalling $400 worth), Lowe's and Safeway (drycleaners).

OK, it's only 10:30 and I'm exhausted. Can I stop now? And my leg is killing me--lymphedema seems to have crept up to my knee, I think. My wife is telling me to go to the doctor, but I'm a guy and you know how that is. Besides, it's Saturday, Easter weekend. What doctor am I going to go to? And they're only going to tell me what I already know, which is that it's lymphedema, which is incurable, and I already know that. Of course, I could always go to the emergency room, wait for 9 hours, and then have somebody who looks 19 years old tell me it's lymphedema and there's nothing they can do for it, and anyway, I need to see a lymphedema specialist, only there aren't any for 200 miles, and he's booked rthree months ahead anyway.

So sometimes being a guy means you know when it is useless to go to the doctor. Better, easier and cheaper just to tough it out. That's what we guys do.

*******************

OK, today's dose of Today in Nautical and Aviation History:

April 11, 1900: The Navy buys its first submarine for $150,000 after two years of sea trials and testing by the sub’s builder, Irish-born American inventor John Holland, the “father” of the submarine. The sub, Holland VI, is his sixth prototype, and is renamed SS-1; Lt. Harry Caldwell becomes her first skipper. Holland’s company eventually mutates into the Electric Boat Division of General Dynamics, builders of America's nuclear submarine Navy. France was already the first nation to own a submarine in its Navy.
1945: U.S. Army troops occupy the Mittlewerk at Nordhausen, Germany, the factory where most of Germany’s V-2 rockets were built using concentration camp labor. The factory was located inside a hollowed-out mountain. The war in the European theater only has about three weeks left to go.
***************************

And there you have it. Everybody have a good day.

Posted by: Curmudgeon- | April 11, 2009 10:43 AM | Report abuse

This is the type of mission I support wholeheartedly
http://www.usatoday.com/tech/science/space/2007-02-12-asteroid_x.htm

Beautiful day in the Carolinas. Soon to drive to the mountains. One of my grown-from-seed dogwoods surprised me by blooming! My big one in my yard proper has refused, but the (remaining) little guy I planted across the street has moxy. I'm very pleased!

Posted by: Jumper1 | April 11, 2009 10:48 AM | Report abuse

Dragons on the porch, Slyness???

That'll keep the neighborhood kids outta the yard...

Posted by: Scottynuke | April 11, 2009 10:59 AM | Report abuse

Exercises, wrapping, pneumatic compression, massage for lymphedema, Mudge?

Maybe you could call somebody with a beard named Ingrid to help ease the swelling.


Posted by: Wilbrod_Gnome | April 11, 2009 11:10 AM | Report abuse

Scotty, you are sooo funny!

It provides the tallness in the container, along with the flowering (the geranium) and the trailing (the aspargus fern). But you knew that and are just pulling my chain...

Posted by: slyness | April 11, 2009 11:11 AM | Report abuse

I little envious slyness, put together some planters yesterday - three for the house and one for my MIL - but all were spring bulbs, pansies and a very few hardy perennials. They will look nice over the next few weeks but will have to be replaced after with summer flowering plants.

I have placed outdoor planters as early as the beginning of May - which included annuals that cannot tolerate any frost - except for a few nights where I had to cover them they survived - but it all depends on the year. Some years almost no frost once May starts - some years frost til late May.

So anxious to get out and garden but not a lot I can do right now - I am like the person waiting for the pot to boil but instead of fixating at a pot of water on the stove I am looking at small plants emerging from the ground.

Posted by: dmd2 | April 11, 2009 11:25 AM | Report abuse

Me, Slyness???

*hehehehehehehe* :-)

Posted by: Scottynuke | April 11, 2009 11:29 AM | Report abuse

Oh slyness, incredible frenvy of your Good Friday gardening. We are so far away from planting. Memorial Day weekend is kind of the safe-from-frost date at Chez Frostbitten and also the time to plant in the park to insure anything the last gardener left is up and identifiable. If I get one of my first 3 preferences I'll have a shady spot just right for hostas, my current obsession. I'll probably add some caladiums and impatiens, those sometimes boring but tried and true companions for shade.

Posted by: frostbitten1 | April 11, 2009 11:29 AM | Report abuse

Good morning, folks.

Had a fun evening with friends, stayed up late (actually, early) and enjoyed it.

Been doing taxes since I woke, feeling like I'm trudging through Mordor. Still have hours and dollars to go, but I think I'll stop soon to take care of the rest of my life.

I'll see some friends this afternoon and evening, and I'm looking forward to that.

One of these years, I'm going to have to enter the Peeps contest. I had a great idea, but not enough time or motivation to actually do it.

bc

Posted by: -bc- | April 11, 2009 11:59 AM | Report abuse

I'm frenvious of putting tomatoes and peppers *in the ground* - it will be months till we can do that here. I moved some of my little seedlings to the greenhouse, but the tomatoes and basil remain in the house. I will get some more things started - summer squash, more flowers.

Posted by: seasea1 | April 11, 2009 12:28 PM | Report abuse

Breaking news about the puppy arrival:
http://voices.washingtonpost.com/sleuth/2009/04/_httpwwwpgaacomcaninegeneralim.html?hpid=news-col-blog

Seems like people think all dog breeders run puppy mills now. Amazing.

Posted by: seasea1 | April 11, 2009 12:34 PM | Report abuse

New snapshot kit...I was on the road and the laptop is buggy. Hope everyone's having a great weekend.

Posted by: joelache | April 11, 2009 12:46 PM | Report abuse

I apologize for the last sentence of my previous comment. The folks that make the effort and take the time to do the Peeps Shows - OK, I'm a tad jealous of them.

Having said that, I just finished doing my taxes, and now I feel compelled to clean my house and take a shower.

Taxman, where is thy sting?

*sigh*

bc

Posted by: -bc- | April 11, 2009 1:14 PM | Report abuse

That is an incredibly cute bicolor PWD. The girls will be in love from day one.

Posted by: Wilbrod_Gnome | April 11, 2009 1:32 PM | Report abuse

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