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New Hubble Pictures


Big crowd here at NASA HQ where Sen. Mikulski and lots of NASA bosses are about to unveil the new Hubble pictures (you may recall they fixed some broken instruments and installed new ones a few months ago).

You can see them at the NASA site. Gotta like that space butterfly. (Ed Weiler told me it's an image of a dying star very similar to our own -- "We're seeing the sun's death in four billion years.")


Here's my story for the Web.


NASA's Hubble Space Telescope, rebuilt by astronauts, has demonstrated its new powers with a stunning set of images of exploding stars, a stellar nursery, colliding galaxies and the lensing effect of a galactic cluster nearly halfway across the universe.

The Hubble was repaired and refurbished earlier this year in a series of tense spacewalks by astronauts on the space shuttle Atlantis, all of whom attended a packed briefing Wednesday morning at NASA headquarters. They fixed two broken instruments and installed a new camera, a spectrograph, new batteries and gyroscopes. Months later, everything appears to be working without a hitch.

NASA made sure that the newest Hubble images packed some visual punch. The most dramatic come from the Wide Field Camera 3, installed by the astronauts after a protracted struggle with a stuck bolt that threatened to keep the camera from ever being used.

One image shows Planetary Nebula NGC 6302, more commonly known as the Butterfly Nebula. It's a dying star ejecting two "wings" of gas. For the past two millennia the gas has been spreading outward, and the "butterfly" is now trillions of miles in diameter.

"It portends what our solar system is going to look like in about 4 billion years," NASA's head of science, Ed Weiler, said in an interview. "We're seeing the sun's death in 4 billion years."

[more after jump]

Another image shows a cluster of galaxies known as Stephan's Quintet. Two of the galaxies are melding like fried eggs plopped together in a pan. Two more will eventually join them to form a single, colossal galaxy.

The Hubble also made complementary observations, one in optical light and one in infrared light, of a billowing star-forming region in the Carina Nebula, which is about 7,500 light-years from Earth. The optical image shows a glowing pillar of dust. The infrared shot penetrates the dust -- peeling back the curtain, in a sense -- to show what's inside. There are four primary stars baking inside. One, in the center, emits two jets of gas, like a plane with dual vapor trails.

"You see how this gives you new eyes," astrophysicist Mario Livio of the Space Telescope Science Institute said after the briefing. "We see this incredible resolution in the visible and then we see the same thing with the same kind of resolution in the infrared. That blew me away."

By Joel Achenbach  |  September 9, 2009; 11:04 AM ET
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Way Cool! Can't wait for DC to get a load of this!

Pics number 5-7 on the NASA site...who knew there was a giant white board in space, and someone (FSM?) wrote everything out all nice and neat?

Posted by: LostInThought | September 9, 2009 11:16 AM | Report abuse


Posted by: Windy3 | September 9, 2009 11:16 AM | Report abuse


Posted by: -ftb- | September 9, 2009 11:30 AM | Report abuse

Love the Elton John Bowtie Nebula.

Posted by: curmudgeon6 | September 9, 2009 11:36 AM | Report abuse

Number 8 looks like either Tinkerbell or Glinda is coming.

Posted by: LostInThought | September 9, 2009 11:37 AM | Report abuse

Who is this km2bar, who is so wise in the ways of the Boodle?? *waving* :-)

Posted by: Scottynuke | September 9, 2009 11:39 AM | Report abuse

yes s'nuke, inquiring boodlers want to know

Posted by: frostbitten1 | September 9, 2009 11:50 AM | Report abuse

Exceeding Way Wonderfully Cool! :-)

Posted by: Scottynuke | September 9, 2009 11:51 AM | Report abuse

ScottyNuke-Ilurk often, post seldom. This is one of the few sites I've found on the web that I truly enjoy. Plus I learn really neat stuff. We live in a really red, bible belt area (thanks to Texas redistricting, we are now in Gohmert's House District, and represented by Sen's Cornyn and Hutchinson). Thank you Joel and boodlers!

Posted by: km2bar | September 9, 2009 11:52 AM | Report abuse

Hubble Hubble!

Posted by: Ivansmom | September 9, 2009 11:54 AM | Report abuse

km2bar, you have my deepest sympathy, I can't imagine living somewhere purple, never mind red, yikes!

Posted by: badsneakers | September 9, 2009 11:55 AM | Report abuse

And some people wanted to pull the plug on the Hubble. If we lose the Shuttle and mothball the ISS, this is all we have left to do the super astronomy work.

Posted by: ebtnut | September 9, 2009 11:59 AM | Report abuse

So "our" star, the Sun, is going to die out like a cosmic butterfly in 4 billion years? Wow. . .

*reminder to self to get the wash on the line so it will dry before that happens*


In the meantime, however, I'm looking forward to seeing the ICFBPH pictures (did I get all those initials right?). Unless you posted them in the last Kit and I have to backboodle.

And km2bar -- condolences as to where you live, but great to see you here!

Posted by: -ftb- | September 9, 2009 12:03 PM | Report abuse

Welcome km2bar, to this little oasis of science and occasional sanity. :-)

Posted by: Scottynuke | September 9, 2009 12:11 PM | Report abuse

*&^%$#*&^%% Trying to listen to Bob Schieffer at the Cronkite memorial on the live WaPo link, but the feed is coming in all broken up, I guess too many people in the bandwidth or something techie like that. Sounds like the growling belly of a hungry dragon.

Obama and Clinton are there.

Posted by: curmudgeon6 | September 9, 2009 12:18 PM | Report abuse

So many things to image, so much light to analyze, so few years to do it.

Posted by: DaveoftheCoonties | September 9, 2009 12:23 PM | Report abuse

I always figured that if creationist geology were good for anything, those Texas-based oil companies would have abandoned conventional geology by now.

Posted by: DaveoftheCoonties | September 9, 2009 12:25 PM | Report abuse

If you like what you see, then I highly recommend NASA's website called Astronomy Picture of the Day. Each day they will post a new photo, and give an explanation about it the subject. So not only do you see great photos, you learn more about our solar system and the universe.

They have an archive of past photos. Many of them were taken by Hubble and easily rival the photos shown in this article.

Enjoy the beauty, some really awesome photos.

Posted by: DrWho2 | September 9, 2009 12:26 PM | Report abuse

OK, getting a tad verklempt at the 10 WWII veteran crewmen from the carrier Intrepid giving a gift to Cronkite's kids and grandkids.

Posted by: curmudgeon6 | September 9, 2009 12:27 PM | Report abuse

SCC: not WWII veterans, just Navy veterans of the crew.

A New Orleans funeral jazz band procession going on now.

Posted by: curmudgeon6 | September 9, 2009 12:31 PM | Report abuse

The colorists at NASA are having a fine month. I'm glad they sent that guy up with the new gear and the magic screwdriver. It was pay-per-view interesting to watch and we can all judge of the result, on the artistic sense at least.

Posted by: shrieking_denizen | September 9, 2009 12:32 PM | Report abuse

Obama now going to speak.

Posted by: curmudgeon6 | September 9, 2009 12:38 PM | Report abuse

As it happens, I know the colorist for those pictures -- that is, if it's the usual guy who prepares images for public release.

Posted by: ScienceTim | September 9, 2009 12:39 PM | Report abuse

Obama is about to speak? That socialist!

With slight editing, here is a generic modern political conversation that the ScienceSpouse has recorded for your benefit:

Wingnut: Unfounded accusation of our elected President. Implies that his supporters are un-American.

Citizen: Requests clarification. Rebuts implied accusation of his supporters as disloyal.

Wingnut: Petty disregard for standards of a civil society governed by laws establishing legitimacy of a sitting President.

Citizen: "WTF?" Requests proof of initial unfounded claim.

Wingnut: Accuses Citizen of poor behavior, stomps off in a huff.

Citizen: Yeah, whatever.

Posted by: ScienceTim | September 9, 2009 12:47 PM | Report abuse

Dave, that's one of my standard arguments about the age of the planet. If even Texas says so, it must be old.

I noted that in the above split-screen photo, the one with visible light is the more striking eye-candy shot.

Posted by: Jumper1 | September 9, 2009 1:10 PM | Report abuse

Alex Karras was once asked what he thought the most lucrative form of writing was. His reply- "Ransom notes."

Posted by: kguy1 | September 9, 2009 1:11 PM | Report abuse

We are all pretty smart on the Boodle, right?


Posted by: Jumper1 | September 9, 2009 1:11 PM | Report abuse

Watching this brief video will save you time and money.

Now you don't ever have to see either the Terminator or Transformers movies. You're welcome.

Posted by: kguy1 | September 9, 2009 1:24 PM | Report abuse


front page head: "Sexual Advances by Religious Leaders Pervasive "

Inside head and lede grafs:

One in 33 Female Worshipers Is Target of Sexual Advances by Clergy Member

By Jacqueline L. Salmon
Washington Post Staff Writer
Wednesday, September 9, 2009 1:13 PM

One in every 33 women who attend worship services regularly has been the target of sexual advances by a religious leader, according to a survey released Wednesday.

The study, by researchers at Baylor University, found that the problem is so pervasive that it almost certainly involves a wide range of denominations and religious traditions and a wide range of spiritual leaders.

"It certainly is prevalent, and clearly the problem is more than simply a few charismatic leaders preying on vulnerable followers," said Diana Garland, dean of the School of Social Work at Baylor, who co-authored the study.

The study also found that more than two-thirds of the offenders were married to someone else at the time of the advance.

A growing number of denominations have become aware of the problem, particularly since the Catholic Church's highly publicized sex scandal involving its clergy. At least 36 denominations now have official policies that identify sexual relations between adult congregants and clergy as misconduct, subject to discipline.

Posted by: curmudgeon6 | September 9, 2009 1:27 PM | Report abuse

Ruh roh:

My dad was a Mason. It was very important to him, but none of us kids understood, because it was secret. (I'm not kidding.)

Posted by: seasea1 | September 9, 2009 1:28 PM | Report abuse

Jumper, you should know that a real eyeball-simulation of that visible image would look very different. I wish that they would distribute such simulations along with the pretty pictures -- it would indicate why astronomy is more than just taking pictures of pretty things. The 3-color image that we are shown is built from a green-light image for the blue channel, a red-light image for the green channel, and a slightly longer-wavelength red light image for the red channel. Where the image is blue, you are seeing emission by doubly-ionized oxygen atoms; where the image is green, you are seeing emission by atomic hydrogen, and where the image is red you are are seeing emission by singly-ionized silicon. At least, that's what I learn from clicking on the link to the labeled image.

Posted by: ScienceTim | September 9, 2009 1:30 PM | Report abuse

"Knights didn't have orbs. Only kings had orbs,"

Well that explains a lot.

Posted by: kguy1 | September 9, 2009 1:34 PM | Report abuse

Took me a while to get it done right. The trick is to set up alternating frogs and then it's easy.

Posted by: Wilbrod_Gnome | September 9, 2009 1:36 PM | Report abuse

Mudge, that one doesn't surprise me at all.
Call it cynicism about how positions of prestige and access to the emotionally or socially vulnerable are irresistable to certain people.

Posted by: Wilbrod_Gnome | September 9, 2009 1:41 PM | Report abuse

breaking news-MPR reports Garrison Keillor suffered a stroke on Sunday and is being treated at Mayo. Apparently it was relatively minor, spokesperson says he was working on a laptop today and getting ready to be released.

Posted by: frostbitten1 | September 9, 2009 1:43 PM | Report abuse

For the life of me I can't find anything about the Carina nebula photos that says anything remotely similar to that, Tim.

Posted by: Jumper1 | September 9, 2009 1:50 PM | Report abuse

Hmmmmm. The congregation would be the normal dating pool for an unmarried rabbi. Individual religious denominations/sects will have to come to their own conclusions about how to approach the problem. Judaism has no conception of celibacy among the rabbinate or cantors, and no expectation that those persons are any more holy than anybody else.

Posted by: ScienceTim | September 9, 2009 1:54 PM | Report abuse

In the extended caption for that image on the NASA web site, scroll to the bottom of the caption and there is a link for a labeled image. It is a different link than the ones that are just below the text window.

Posted by: ScienceTim | September 9, 2009 1:57 PM | Report abuse

Here's the direct link:

Posted by: ScienceTim | September 9, 2009 1:59 PM | Report abuse

Good afternoon, all.

Taking a few minutes to come up for air.

These Hubble images are great -- but they fill me with the spirit to go there and see these things for myself (the fact there may no longer be any *there* there by the time I arrive does not dissuade me). They're not abstractions to me, they're - I dunno, the Universal Travel Agency's glossy brochure, perhaps.

The cynic in me might suggest that the timing of the release of these pics with the release of the US Human Space Flight Comittee's recommendations is about as accidental as the release of the Beatles - Rock Star game and the remastered Beatles CD Mono and Stereo Box sets.

But I care not -- in either case, they've struck home, squarely in my soaring heart -- which resides in my all-too-human body.

Speaking of which, I'm a little disappointed by the Augustine Report -- not that I disagree with the notion that we should be taking steps into the Solar System, and that if we do, we should adequately fund it, but that they didn't find anything that hasn't been discussed for years by space junkies everywhere and even posted to the Boodle many times.

I find it somewhat ironic that there is continued debate regarding government and private options for US human spaceflight to low earth orbit, just as there is one for public and private options in the proposed Health Care legslation.

I'd add that one other recommendation that's missing from the Augustine Report is for a popular, charismatic, visionary and very public leader to sell this whole thing to the media and US Citizens, foreign governments, private industry, and all three branches of US Government. One who will remain in place for decades, unflagging, unfailing, negotiating, cajoling, threatening, appeasing, and just flat-out selling, selling, selling NASA's human spaceflight and science programs to secure funding and resources.

A shame that Billy Mays is gone, really.


Posted by: -bc- | September 9, 2009 2:00 PM | Report abuse

Hope Keillor will recover rapidly.

Dan Brown just annoys me. He wrote a book premised on an unbreakable code that freaked out the NSA computers. However, if you sent a cleverly obtained completely random number, the NSA computers would have no idea whether it contained a code or was just gibberish. The whole premise was garbage.

Posted by: Jumper1 | September 9, 2009 2:04 PM | Report abuse

This is what I just posted in the comments section of the WaPo Dan Brown article:

I went to France before the first movie came out and built a little 'story' about being on the trail of Dan Brown:

These were all places we would have gone anyways, it's just a lucky coincidence they were mentioned in the book.

When I went to Italy this Spring, I deliberately spent a day going to all the places in Rome mentioned in Angels and Demons and this is my blog post about those places:

In conclusion, Dan Brown is a terrible writer but a fairly decent tour guide.

I'm actually glad that the new book is set in DC because that is going to save me a ton of airfare money.

Posted by: yellojkt | September 9, 2009 2:04 PM | Report abuse

The Church has spent so much time sweeping under the rug the various pedophile scandals that I have said for a long time that the 'consenting adults' shoe will fall someday. A lot of priests are reasonably attractive and fairly charismatic. As part of their job they deal with a lot of emotionally fragile people. That is just a recipe for relationships the APA would not approve of.

When it comes to priests breaking vows, I am certain that 9/10 of the iceberg has never been seen.

Posted by: yellojkt | September 9, 2009 2:10 PM | Report abuse

The headline "Clergy Sexual Advances Studied" suggests that the purpose of the article is to investigate technique.

Posted by: ScienceTim | September 9, 2009 2:19 PM | Report abuse

A new piece about the refurbished Hubble instruments by JA on


Posted by: -bc- | September 9, 2009 2:23 PM | Report abuse

Tim, somehow I don't think an unmarried rabbi hitting on members of his congregational "dating pool" would be a problem. More likely it's that the poor unmarried rabbi would be trampled to death by the stampeding single women of his congregation (and their mothers pushing them forward) trying to get the the poor guy to come to dinner Wednesday night we're having brisket.

Posted by: curmudgeon6 | September 9, 2009 2:28 PM | Report abuse

And a little chicken soup, it couldn't hurt. Oy! You're just skin and bones! Eat, eat! You know, my daughter here, she's a heavenly cook, she makes wonderful matzoh-ball soup, wonderful! not like my bubbe-of-blessed-memory (spit! to ward off evil) but then, you can't get schmaltz like that any more, you have to make do with low-fat, low-sodium, what's the point? but then, I can't complain, it's good for you, we should live longer, maybe not as well, but longer. Eat, eat! Put some meat on those bones, look prosperous, you should, some girl will be verrry lucky, she gets to marry a nice rabbi like you, I hope she's a girl makes matzoh-ball soup as good as my daughter here, you know not many people these days know the secret to a really good matzoh-ball, but oy! I should tell you? A rabbi, you must have to smile and be nice eating terrible matzoh-balls all the time. Oy!

Posted by: ScienceTim | September 9, 2009 2:37 PM | Report abuse

Don (andf Montana gal CqP), have you seen this news item:

Navy to fly jets fueled by algae, oilseed crop
September 9, 2009

BILLINGS (AP) — The U.S. Navy plans to fly fighter jets within the next
year powered by “biofuels” made from algae and oilseeds, part of a
fledgling effort to reduce the military’s dependence on imported fossil

The military for the last several years has been conducting test flights
using synthetic jet fuels derived from coal and natural gas. Now the
Navy wants to expand that effort to include fuels from algae and the
oilseed crop camelina, which is grown in arid parts of the West
including Montana.

Biofuels contracts worth more than $11 million were awarded recently to
Solazyme of San Francisco and Sustainable Oils of Bozeman, Mont.
Solazyme will produce 20,000 gallons of jet fuel made from algae and
Sustainable Oils will produce 40,000 gallons of camelina-based fuel.


Methinks this will be used aboard the new Next-Generation Strike Fighter, the F-28 Arugula.

Posted by: curmudgeon6 | September 9, 2009 2:50 PM | Report abuse

No, the real problem is the married rabbi getting involved with one of his married congregation members. Oy, vey!

Posted by: yellojkt | September 9, 2009 2:57 PM | Report abuse

Why am I suddenly hearing the soundtrack to Yentl in my head?

Posted by: yellojkt | September 9, 2009 3:00 PM | Report abuse

Nah, that's Billy Chrystal as Miracle Max from "The Princess Bride."

Posted by: kguy1 | September 9, 2009 3:06 PM | Report abuse

I do *not* want to know what that green/syntheic jet fuel exhaust smells like.

I do like a good matzoh ball soup, gefilte fish, borscht, & etc. but then again, I like crabs, mussels, and mayo on my steak & cheese sub w/bacon & scrapple.


Posted by: -bc- | September 9, 2009 3:09 PM | Report abuse


I'm assuming that the Navy version will be called Nori.

We could also include weapon systems built completely out of bulgar wheat, flax and tamari so that we may conduct macro-bio-warfare.

Posted by: russianthistle | September 9, 2009 3:12 PM | Report abuse

Hemp oil or french fries.

Posted by: Jumper1 | September 9, 2009 3:12 PM | Report abuse

bc, just made some quasi-borscht sans beetroot ... tomato. Of course, it is a Polish Catholic version. Fighting urge to get a second bowl.

Posted by: russianthistle | September 9, 2009 3:15 PM | Report abuse

Jumper, Fry'em if you got'em.

Posted by: russianthistle | September 9, 2009 3:17 PM | Report abuse

I think we should all congratulate Jumper on the timing of her 09/09/09 9:09 post today.


Posted by: DLDx | September 9, 2009 3:20 PM | Report abuse

Lunch is art. Maybe I have some subliminal pshcyological disorder that makes me eat food, regardless of how it looks. The lunches I brown bagged to school *never* looked like this, especially on a rainy day or after a winter's hike to school. Pretty basic: eat or go hungry. Interesting.

Posted by: -jack- | September 9, 2009 3:26 PM | Report abuse

YUM to the IBPHCF!!!! those were some tasty tasty crabbies!!!


Posted by: mortii | September 9, 2009 3:29 PM | Report abuse


Posted by: curmudgeon6 | September 9, 2009 3:36 PM | Report abuse


bc, Billy may be gone, but Joel's gonna be around for awhile, right?

Posted by: Scottynuke | September 9, 2009 3:40 PM | Report abuse

OMG! I just realized something! It's 9/9/9! That's the Mark of the Beast - UPSIDE DOWN!

I just don't know what that means.

MO! MO! MO! Good to hear from you.


Posted by: jp1954 | September 9, 2009 4:04 PM | Report abuse

CowTown, that spells trouble in Australia.

Posted by: russianthistle | September 9, 2009 4:05 PM | Report abuse

Ah come on jack, don't make me puke on my shoes.
"If her boiled egg is shaped like a bunny and it is holding a baby carrot, she’ll eat it.”

That little princess needs a week or two of cold porridge or nuttin'.

Posted by: shrieking_denizen | September 9, 2009 4:05 PM | Report abuse

Mo!! Sorry we couldn't make it to the IBPHCF. We were on a craptastic 9-hour journey in the car (from Mom's).

Backboodling the last five days. Frosti, I could be a CCL, except for the cat part. The I Got Mine crowd absolutely chaps my butt. Slyness, it sounds like your conversations with your hair stylist go about like mine/TBG's. Weed, you have been in fine rantalicious form. Welcome km2bar. Help yourself to your beverage of choice from the bunker's fridge.

Posted by: Raysmom | September 9, 2009 4:09 PM | Report abuse

...and Australians, as we all know, have socialized medicine. Coincidence? Hah!

Posted by: curmudgeon6 | September 9, 2009 4:18 PM | Report abuse

This is using those Moorish scribbles that is devilish, there is nothing wrong with IX/IX/IX.

Posted by: shrieking_denizen | September 9, 2009 4:22 PM | Report abuse

This house painting job would be a breeze if it wasn’t for ladders, or if I was eight feet tall. I have been in more awkward positions (hanging on to gutters, light fixtures and downspouts) in the past week that it’s reminding me of yoga class. Just finished scraping and washing 60 little window panes and I’m beat.

Love the Hubble pictures. Space is fascinating and I’m glad they fixed the telescope so we can see more of it.

Posted by: badsneakers | September 9, 2009 4:27 PM | Report abuse

*faxing some liniment and your choice of red or white fine wine to Sneaks*

Posted by: -ftb- | September 9, 2009 5:00 PM | Report abuse

Will there be live Boodling tonight during the speech?

Posted by: curmudgeon6 | September 9, 2009 5:08 PM | Report abuse

Please live boodle! I have a meeting I can't get out of and if I hurry I can watch the end and back boodle to get the beginning.

Posted by: frostbitten1 | September 9, 2009 5:18 PM | Report abuse

If Jumper was a girl, I'd marry her!

Posted by: Jumper1 | September 9, 2009 5:20 PM | Report abuse

there's a guy in my old office that brought bentos to work everyday but his wife is japanese so he had the "authentic" bento. always looked so yummy!!!!

can i be in the crazy cat lady club? but i wanna be a crazy BAT lady!


Posted by: mortii | September 9, 2009 5:22 PM | Report abuse

Thinking of Dan Brown, maybe a dozen years ago I wandered into the Baptist Book Store in Jacksonville and noticed a book exposing and denouncing renovators at the Library of Congress, who were busily removing Christian symbols from the building's elaborate interiors and replacing them with secular stuff. Maybe even Communist and/or demonic. I should have bought the thing. Didn't have a clue that someone named Brown would become so big.

Posted by: DaveoftheCoonties | September 9, 2009 5:31 PM | Report abuse

Doing some math: If the average size of a congregation is 400 adults (Catholic congregations are much larger, Free Evangelical Reform Anabaptist Church Of Jesus Christ, Alchemist groups are much smaller) and the congregations are 50/50 male/female, that would make 6 women per group victims of unwanted advances. Let's assume only 25% of the clergy are really horndogs. That would bring the number up to 24 women per groping clergyman. That makes the lascivious preacher pretty forward. I think Elmer Gantry only shined his favors on four of five choir members.

Posted by: yellojkt | September 9, 2009 5:34 PM | Report abuse

Go down the hall to
Crazy Animal Person
Anonymous, Al.

Mission: Impossible
Fix health and economy.
Save America!


Posted by: Wilbrod_Gnome | September 9, 2009 5:49 PM | Report abuse

Yellojkt, remember this may be over a period of decades, not like, in one year. In some denominations, pastors move around a lot, especially if there have been complaints about improprieties.

And I believe this number. Horndogs operate on the lottery principle-- hit on enough women, hone technique, and somebody'll give in. I've known a couple horndogs. It's truly reflexive.

Posted by: Wilbrod_Gnome | September 9, 2009 5:54 PM | Report abuse

You ain't nothing but a horn dog,
tryin' all the time,
you ain't nothing but a horn dog,
tryin' all the time,
You ain't never caught the spirit,
Do you know a single rabbi?

Posted by: frostbitten1 | September 9, 2009 6:56 PM | Report abuse

snort ©

Posted by: Jumper1 | September 9, 2009 7:05 PM | Report abuse

Man, oh man, Jumper, I think you're playing with fire, trying to copyright that snort. I think Yoki holds the paper on that bad boy, and she's a shark wrangler with 600 hungry minions at her beck and call.

Posted by: curmudgeon-1 | September 9, 2009 7:15 PM | Report abuse


You know I fear sharks.

Moving on in the news:

Socialites Without Borders Teach Rwandans How To Mingle

Posted by: russianthistle | September 9, 2009 7:18 PM | Report abuse

With respect Mudge, I believe Yoki's snort is preceded and followed by *, perhaps signifying the italics we still don't have. I prefer to think when I see
thusly, it means a rather knowing snort, perhaps even disapproving at times, but always wise and sophisticated. Such a snort is bound to become a part of the common lexicon. Even Disney would tire of protecting that bad boy.

Posted by: frostbitten1 | September 9, 2009 7:21 PM | Report abuse

Hate it when I can relate to a White Whine comment:

Sept. 2
Why can’t Blackberry have an “ampersand” symbol? I am sick of typing “and” all the time.

Posted by: frostbitten1 | September 9, 2009 7:24 PM | Report abuse

Let's see if this works again...

The ICFPBH has been immortalized on da interwebz! :-)

Posted by: Scottynuke | September 9, 2009 7:32 PM | Report abuse

Use the plus sign over the "o", frosty.

Posted by: curmudgeon-1 | September 9, 2009 7:35 PM | Report abuse

There is an ampersand in the SYM set of characters. Numeric and SYM key should get you there.

Posted by: russianthistle | September 9, 2009 7:42 PM | Report abuse

Isn't km2bar Kim?

Posted by: DNA_Girl | September 9, 2009 7:45 PM | Report abuse

Most excellent, Scottynuke. Thanks for sharing. I am certain the first set of hands belongs to Yellojkt, which is pretty scary because I've never seen him in person. The second set were clearly Mudge's, but the cuffs gave it away. Flannel cuffs, I mean.

Hey! I almost controlled the weather today. I did a little weeding after work and the ground was just dry as toast, so I watered afterwards. Sure enough, it called down the rain spirits and it is raining now. I promise to use this power only for good - if it stays.

Posted by: Ivansmom | September 9, 2009 7:46 PM | Report abuse

I love those pics from the Hubble, even when I get a bit cynical about the coloration. Nevertheless, beauty is beauty. The Hubble certainly has managed to show that even with a rough start things can end up pretty good. There's a lesson there somewhere.

Posted by: RD_Padouk | September 9, 2009 8:01 PM | Report abuse

My blackberry has the ampersand in the symbols - it is a little funky looking though.

Yello was my guess for the hands as well, which was based on the pale skin and freckles.

Posted by: dmd3 | September 9, 2009 8:05 PM | Report abuse

Great pictures Scotty, thanks for taking and posting them.

Okay, I believe I used to know the answer to this question but does the coloring of the Hubble pictures have any significance, like reds are for hot areas and so forth or are they just colored to make them more appealing to the science-challenged?

Posted by: badsneakers | September 9, 2009 8:15 PM | Report abuse

Speech about to start.

Posted by: russianthistle | September 9, 2009 8:15 PM | Report abuse

I hope you folks are going to live blog, Mr. T has TVLand on, you're my only hope for hearing about it...

Posted by: slyness | September 9, 2009 8:26 PM | Report abuse

I fear this will become a jumping bean speech where they applaud every other paragraphs.

Posted by: yellojkt | September 9, 2009 8:27 PM | Report abuse

He's reinforcing his earlier requests and preferences, Slyness...

Posted by: Scottynuke | September 9, 2009 8:32 PM | Report abuse

Hmmmmm... "insurance exchange," that sounds familiar...

Posted by: Scottynuke | September 9, 2009 8:33 PM | Report abuse

He gives a speech and a town hall meeting breaks out... *SIGHHHHHH*

Hope somebody IDs that shouter.

Posted by: Scottynuke | September 9, 2009 8:39 PM | Report abuse

Eric Cantor on his Blackberry... How polite! *rolling my eyes*

Posted by: Scottynuke | September 9, 2009 8:47 PM | Report abuse

Eric Cantor was looking for the Ampersand

Posted by: russianthistle | September 9, 2009 8:51 PM | Report abuse

Wow, oblique reference to tort reform! And anything that reduces unnecessary defensive medicine is a plus! :-)

Posted by: Scottynuke | September 9, 2009 8:53 PM | Report abuse

Wonder how many people are looking up "demagoguery" right now?

So, who sent out the memo to have so many Democrats on the floor of the chamber wearing red tonight? [Including the President's tie.]

Subtle -- we'll see if it helps.


Posted by: -bc- | September 9, 2009 8:57 PM | Report abuse

And of course, Teddy's in the room...

Posted by: Scottynuke | September 9, 2009 8:57 PM | Report abuse

I was impressed with the inclusion of "demogoguery".

I will state again, I have quite the crush on your President.

Posted by: dmd3 | September 9, 2009 9:03 PM | Report abuse

Nice touch to start over on the GOP side of the floor on his way out...

Posted by: Scottynuke | September 9, 2009 9:05 PM | Report abuse

One other quick comment -- is it me or was Lieberman looking around like he was enjoying the view from Up There?

So, any bets on who yelled "Lie?"

My money's on Karl Rove, who probably snuck in wearing a disguise -- in drag, looking a lot like Dame Edna.


Posted by: -bc- | September 9, 2009 9:09 PM | Report abuse

Thought it was a boffo speech, especially the ending. Now to see if the Congressional Dems have any spines.

Posted by: seasea1 | September 9, 2009 9:11 PM | Report abuse

Whoever yelled "lie" will probably claim sudden-onset Tourette's... *SIGH*

Posted by: Scottynuke | September 9, 2009 9:13 PM | Report abuse

The rebuttal started off by agreeing on the problems, then they said "We wanted to hear Obama tell Pelosi to start over again on this issue."

Then he started talking about the budget particulars as of July, emphasisizing 53 bureaucratic agencies, big government.

I clicked off when he talked about government-run health care, since it seemed like he hadn't listened to the speech at all.

Posted by: Wilbrod_Gnome | September 9, 2009 9:14 PM | Report abuse

It was Joe Wilson from S Carolina who yelled 'you lie' at Obama. Who is this person? Can we teach him some manners or is he hopeless?

Posted by: badsneakers | September 9, 2009 9:18 PM | Report abuse

Full text of the Obama speech here:

Posted by: Wilbrod_Gnome | September 9, 2009 9:21 PM | Report abuse

Terrific speech (I didn't watch the Rethuglican speech, though, preferring to empty the dishwasher).

Whoever yelled "lie" ought to be identified and be put into the stockade. What disgraceful behavior! And in the chamber itself! If a Democrat had ever done that when any Rethug were in office as president, you *know* the Uzi's would be out in force to take him (presumably "him" -- but no boodle "him" of course) out.

Obama did a very good job, and I was pleased to witness it.

In other news, I switched back to tennis to see the final shot of the Danish woman beat Melanie Oudin. Ah, well. She's only 17, and fer shur she'll be back year after year. After all, the Williams sisters are getting a little long in the tooth (I think Venus is 29?) and the US team needs new blood. But I gotta tell ya, Serena is one powerful player.

Cyall tomorrow.

Posted by: -ftb- | September 9, 2009 9:22 PM | Report abuse

Can he be offered the option to secede from Congress?

Posted by: Wilbrod_Gnome | September 9, 2009 9:27 PM | Report abuse

I say we boot South Carolina out of the union. Bah.

Also, apparently the Republican who gave the response is a doctor who has been sued for malpractice 3 times. bwahahahaha

Posted by: seasea1 | September 9, 2009 9:30 PM | Report abuse

I know it was Joe Wilson, American Hero, because Keith Olbermann has named him about 30 times since the end of the speech!

Morti, I announced last night that I was the Chair of the Steering Committee of the Crazy Cat Ladies' Batsh*t Crazy Ladies, and I'd be honored to have you on the committee. We'll meet nightly over mojitos.

Posted by: rickoshea1 | September 9, 2009 9:34 PM | Report abuse

seasea, I'm not sure the malpractice thing against that guy is very useful, because any doctor can get sued by anybody for anything. However, what I think *is* relevant is that the guy is an announced birther, and was also the victim of a scam when he attempted to be a British peerage title of "Lord."

I also think it's pretty interesting that considering the importance of the speech and the occasion, this was the best guy the GOP could put up there? It's like putting a 9th grade Little Leaguer up against Randy Johnson.

Posted by: curmudgeon-1 | September 9, 2009 9:39 PM | Report abuse

SCC: attempted to "buy" a Lordship

Posted by: curmudgeon-1 | September 9, 2009 9:40 PM | Report abuse

Seems that Congressman Boustany is a "birther." As reported by the DailyKingfish blog from LA.

Oh, and even better==>

has him suing some con men for the $18,500 he claimed to have given them for a British Lordship (title). I guess millionaires want to be British Lords.

He is a smart guy. He created a public record of how stupid he was.

Posted by: russianthistle | September 9, 2009 9:43 PM | Report abuse

The out of control Town Hall meetings, the crazy claims of birthers and death panels and the references to Hitler and now a Congressman shouting 'you lie' at the President. The Rethugs have so coarsened our political discourse that they should be ashamed - but they won't be.

Posted by: badsneakers | September 9, 2009 9:43 PM | Report abuse

Mudge, what I found interesting was the agreement that there was a problem that could kill our economy.
This means they want to deal, but they want credit for "killing the bad ideas" they were mouthing off about.

This is also the second time they've put up somebody from Louisana as the Republican response. It was Bobby Jindal before, now it's some ex-doctor.


Posted by: Wilbrod_Gnome | September 9, 2009 9:48 PM | Report abuse

By the way, now I have had the public option clarified for me as being part of the marketplace concept, rather than a single-bullet solution, I am very much for it.

Posted by: Wilbrod_Gnome | September 9, 2009 9:53 PM | Report abuse

Too tired and jetlagged to Boodle as I would wish; watched your President's speech with TBG, and had tears in my eyes. The man is an orator, as well as being smart and hot.

I totally own *snort* (and it is never ever disapproving, only occasionally reluctant for one reason or another). However, I am going to consider it freeware so long as nobody else tries to get the papers. OK?

Posted by: Yoki | September 9, 2009 9:53 PM | Report abuse

NBC mentioned before cutting to that "response" that no prominent Republican or anyone in the leadership was going to risk stepping up and disagreeing with Obama.

I guess they feel it is too risky, especially after Jindal did that impression of Kenneth the Page.

Posted by: russianthistle | September 9, 2009 9:54 PM | Report abuse

On Kit: Joel, the Boy says "Thank you" for posting the link to the NASA pictures. "Awesome" he says.

Posted by: Ivansmom | September 9, 2009 10:03 PM | Report abuse

Thanks for keeping me informed, folks.

If anyone wants to file the paperwork to disunite South Carolina from the Union, I'll be delighted to assist. So many from there simply don't belong to the United States.

Posted by: slyness | September 9, 2009 10:06 PM | Report abuse

Yoki didn't mention that we watched Obama's speech in a local Ethiopian restaurant, sitting in the bar section with all the folks watching the speech like it was some sort of sporting event. Great fun to be part of a supportive crowd.

I was glad to see he gave the "don't make me come back there!" speech. Nice to have a grownup in the house.

Posted by: -TBG- | September 9, 2009 10:12 PM | Report abuse

Couldn't he had just yelled out "Touchdown" or "Gooooooaaaaallllll"

Maybe South Carolina wants to secede from the union again.

Punishment should be a dunking booth in Minnesota during Febuary or 7 continous days of listening to Rush's dribble.

Posted by: greenwithenvy | September 9, 2009 10:13 PM | Report abuse

This just in: Joe Wilson, "Worst Person in the World."

Posted by: rickoshea1 | September 9, 2009 10:14 PM | Report abuse

If I understand Olbermann correctly, apparently Fox had Karl Rove on, and Rove laughed about Wilson calling Obama a liar. Anybody see Fox? (OK, that's a silly question here. Guess we'll have to wait for the clip.)

Posted by: Curmudgeon- | September 9, 2009 10:18 PM | Report abuse

Thanks to everyone for live boodling. I'll catch the speech as soon as I can. This was the worst night of my mayoral life-missed Obama's major health care speech and the first regular episode of Glee. I am diving into a cup of chocolate peanut butter swirl ice cream.

Posted by: frostbitten1 | September 9, 2009 10:20 PM | Report abuse

I just emailed Wilson (I know it's useless but it will help fill up his staff's email box) and Pelosi. Told her that at the very least Wilson should be censured but I'd really prefer tar and feathers. Yeah, can we just tell S. Carolina to get lost, we'll take anyone there who wants to play nice, the rest of 'em can go to h3ll.

Posted by: badsneakers | September 9, 2009 10:28 PM | Report abuse

Glee tonight featured three cheerleader characters singing 'Sing A Little Prayer'. My wife nearly died laughing. Talk about freaky boodlish coincidences.

Posted by: yellojkt | September 9, 2009 10:28 PM | Report abuse

The copyright sign was not my attempt to copyright "snort" it was my acknowledgment that it IS under copyright, and that my royalty check has been sent out to the rightful owner, expeditiously!

That's right, Yoki: the check is in the mail.

Posted by: Jumper1 | September 9, 2009 10:30 PM | Report abuse

Frosti, watched most of the speech then switched to Glee, I enjoyed it.

Posted by: dmd3 | September 9, 2009 10:34 PM | Report abuse

Yello, Do you mean that you and Ms. Yello chose to watch Glee instead of Our Leader? I might start a movement to tar and feather you!

Posted by: rickoshea1 | September 9, 2009 10:37 PM | Report abuse

Forget healthcare reform... how can you people live without Tivo?

Posted by: -TBG- | September 9, 2009 10:37 PM | Report abuse

TBG, I regret to say that Obama's speech was actually the first TV I've watched in over 10 days.

Posted by: Wilbrod_Gnome | September 9, 2009 10:39 PM | Report abuse

Top trending topic on Twitter: Joe Wilson.

Posted by: -TBG- | September 9, 2009 10:44 PM | Report abuse

I wonder if Wilson's attention was wandering and he lapsed into a fantasy that he was actually in the House of Lords.


Posted by: -bc- | September 9, 2009 10:44 PM | Report abuse

According to TPM Wilson has apologized (in one of those non-apology ways)

Glee is second to Wilson on Twitter.

Posted by: frostbitten1 | September 9, 2009 10:49 PM | Report abuse

what you said earlier, shriek. It'll be a cold day when I try to make any meal look cute, just so it will be consumed. We tried a pumpkin based spaghetti sauce one night that tasted great. Trouble was that the sauce atop the noodles and meatballs made the dish look, *make the face that native southerners make when they say this* ..nasty. I have cut the crusts off the bread for a time when the kids were in kindergarten. Making vegetables into cute little faces? Feh.

Posted by: -jack- | September 9, 2009 10:50 PM | Report abuse

Hi, all! We've been without internet for a couple of days. Let me tell you, It. Was. Awful. However, I've been reading up all afternoon.

Badsneakers, I e-mailed Joe Wilson, too! I was feeling quite proud of myself. Then I saw that you e-mailed Pelosi, too. Which is a good idea, and I will do that now.

'Night, all.

Posted by: Wheezy11 | September 9, 2009 10:52 PM | Report abuse

Tivo, we don't need no stinkin' tivo.

Posted by: frostbitten1 | September 9, 2009 10:53 PM | Report abuse

jack... one night Dr G made dinner that consisted of only round, ball-shaped things... meatballs, small potatoes, grapes... can't even remember what else, but it was hilarious if not delicious. The kids enjoyed it.

Posted by: -TBG- | September 9, 2009 10:55 PM | Report abuse

Wheezy, I was without a computer for two short days and I was literally dreaming about a computer before it was over. Oddly, the dream computer was much more interesting than the one in real life...

Posted by: Jumper1 | September 9, 2009 11:04 PM | Report abuse

sad day today, as we had to make yet another trip for the purposes of visitation. A student of mine from years past passed as a result of injuries sustained in a wreck. Off to rest and meditate on things, wishing the family comfort and peace. Same to all of you.

Posted by: -jack- | September 9, 2009 11:04 PM | Report abuse

Every mite is welcome, Jumper! (but it's still freeware)

Posted by: Yoki | September 9, 2009 11:05 PM | Report abuse

This site is totally jammed. Must be 10 million angry people trying to leave angry msgs. This amuses me.

Posted by: Jumper1 | September 9, 2009 11:07 PM | Report abuse

Hugs to you, Jack. Lots of Boodle mojo too.

Posted by: -TBG- | September 9, 2009 11:08 PM | Report abuse

You can contribute to the Iraq War vet who's running against Wilson here

Posted by: frostbitten1 | September 9, 2009 11:10 PM | Report abuse

Jack-hugs and kitty lovin's headed your way.

Posted by: frostbitten1 | September 9, 2009 11:12 PM | Report abuse

Wow, frosti... has that page raised $12K tonight?

Posted by: -TBG- | September 9, 2009 11:17 PM | Report abuse

TBG-holy carp, they raised 2K between my 11:10 and your 11:17

Posted by: frostbitten1 | September 9, 2009 11:20 PM | Report abuse

Up to 15K now.

Posted by: frostbitten1 | September 9, 2009 11:31 PM | Report abuse

Frosti - a practical method of taking action against the cad Wilson! Thanks.

In my email to Pelosi I said that when the shouting occurred I was so surprised and shocked. My kids wondered why I was sitting forward and looking so upset. To them this kind of thing (shouting at the President) seems old hat already. I tried to explain that I thought this might be unprecedented. I could tell they thought I was overreacting.

Actually, I'm sure Lincoln got shouted at by Congress during the Civil War. How could he not have been. Anyone? Mudge?

Posted by: Wheezy11 | September 9, 2009 11:32 PM | Report abuse

We did watch Dear Leader unfold his lay-it-on-the-table plan exactly as predicted here by others more savvy than I. His speech ended five minutes into Glee and I had no desire to watch yet another Louisianan embarrass himself rebutting Obama. Thank goodness for DVRs.

I've watched the Glee kids do their rather raunchy production of Salt-n-Pepa's 'Push It' three times. As one character said, it was more shocking than an elementary school production of 'Hair'. Have I said 'Thank goodness for DVRs' yet?

Posted by: yellojkt | September 9, 2009 11:35 PM | Report abuse

From TPM:

"Wilson apparently called the White House to apologize to Obama directly. Instead he ended up speaking to Rahm Emanuel. Oh, to have been listening in on that f@(&ing conversation."


Posted by: yellojkt | September 9, 2009 11:37 PM | Report abuse

Over 16k raised for Wilson's challenger now.

Posted by: frostbitten1 | September 9, 2009 11:39 PM | Report abuse

$16,617 at last check. Average donation ~$33! Better than I did - I gave $25.

Of course, this probably just means another Republican will run instead of Wilson, and win. I read Wilson's Wiki tonight and his 54% margin of victory in the last election was the lowest any Republican has ever gotten in that District. In the mid 60's for his first couple of elections.

Posted by: Wheezy11 | September 9, 2009 11:40 PM | Report abuse

"Of course, this probably just means another Republican will run instead of Wilson" Do hope you're wrong Wheezy.

Posted by: frostbitten1 | September 9, 2009 11:43 PM | Report abuse

Sorry, Yello, I apologize. You know how old I am and how little I know of new technology. I forgot about Tivo.

Posted by: rickoshea1 | September 9, 2009 11:44 PM | Report abuse

Jumper, isn't it awful how dependent one gets? I was considering switching carriers (for money, savings on repairs to current system) but the 7 day wait made that a no-go. I'm hopeless.

Oh, and "If Jumper was a girl, I'd marry her!" - snort.

Posted by: Wheezy11 | September 9, 2009 11:55 PM | Report abuse

Sounds like you want to star in the remake of "All You Zombies."

Posted by: yellojkt | September 10, 2009 12:10 AM | Report abuse

This is what the official House web page says for Joe Wilson:

"This site is down for maintenance.
Please check back again soon."

Posted by: yellojkt | September 10, 2009 12:19 AM | Report abuse

toodles boodle and sweet dreams

Posted by: frostbitten1 | September 10, 2009 12:19 AM | Report abuse

You can still e-mail Joe Wilson at this page:

Here is what I wrote:

"You have shown great disrespect to the highest office in the land. I hope you have enough courage to resign rather than continue to bring dishonor to the office the voters of South Carolina elected you to."

Posted by: yellojkt | September 10, 2009 12:48 AM | Report abuse

No thanks, yello. I'll joke about it but that story creeped me out, actually.

Here are the lyrics to "I'm my own grandpa" however:

Posted by: Jumper1 | September 10, 2009 1:02 AM | Report abuse

Your late night red-headed singer with acoustic backing band:

Posted by: yellojkt | September 10, 2009 1:20 AM | Report abuse

It didn't make any sense until I watched this video:

Posted by: yellojkt | September 10, 2009 1:55 AM | Report abuse

I'm sorry, I'm so incredibly offended by Joe Wilson that I could just burst! How utterly immature and disrespectful. Can you imagine if one of Bush's detractors had done that during one of his (crappy) speeches? They'd have been tarred and feathered! You can disagree with someone without being a glassbowl about it! He's the President of the United States, for goodness sakes! OMG, I'm just ready to lose it. Sorry.

Posted by: MiddleofthePacific | September 10, 2009 2:32 AM | Report abuse

Good morning, you all.

Don't apologize, Middle, we are all offended. Wilson's official web site is still down, hope it stays that way until after his election/defeat. He shall be known forevermore to me as the US Congressman whose arrogance is only superseded by his imbecility. Who ever runs against him has a great opportunity to perpetuate his "moment" in endless Campaign Infomercials.

Eric Cantor is Virginia's problem, my problem.

Posted by: VintageLady | September 10, 2009 6:52 AM | Report abuse

Thanks for telling me what I'm looking at Joel, beauty to behold. Scotty, love your pictures, everyone looks so happy, but no pictures of the crabs? Poor crabs, I see a limb here and there, they are all shell in the buckets now.

Posted by: VintageLady | September 10, 2009 6:56 AM | Report abuse

Good morning, late, everybody. Hey Cassandra! Are you up yet?

The power was off from 2:30 till 7. And to add insult to injury, it's raining so I can't take a walk. We need the rain, and the power is back, but my early morning is shot. Oh well, thank heavens for decent internet connections!

VL, I love your phrasing: "the US Congressman whose arrogance is only superseded by his imbecility." The perfect description of Joe Wilson!

Onward, to rescue the morning as best I can...

Posted by: slyness | September 10, 2009 7:30 AM | Report abuse

But Tom Hanks made Wilson look so cool in that movies. Or was that the volleyball?

Posted by: yellojkt | September 10, 2009 7:31 AM | Report abuse

I do believe Wilson's gonna feel like a volleyball, post-spiking, before the week is through...

Morning all! :-)

VL, I trust today will bring you much peace and Boodle love. I couldn't get the crabs in frame, they were moving so fast... We needed the mallets!!

And Ellen replacing Paula on "Idol?" Ooooooookay...

*wow-it's-almost-TGIF-already-doncha-love-short-work-weeks Grover waves* :-)

Posted by: Scottynuke | September 10, 2009 7:40 AM | Report abuse

'morning all. I enkoyed a good bit of the speech last night. What an orator Obama is. Interestingly enough telling another Member of the Parliament (MP) "You lie" is one of the very few things that you can't say in British-style parliament. It gets the offending MP expelled until a public excuse is made. It's not that MPs don't lie, it's just that it can't be said in Chamber directly

Posted by: shrieking_denizen | September 10, 2009 7:53 AM | Report abuse

Please excuse this important announcement for Frosti,

Rick Mercer new season, Tues. Sept. 29

Posted by: dmd3 | September 10, 2009 8:14 AM | Report abuse

'Morning, Boodle.

Can anyone explain to me why the #2 headline and story in the Post this morning is by a TV ciritic insinuating that Obama made a mistake in choosing the wrong way to present his argument (i.e., he should have had a fireside chat instead of addressing Congress). Is this the second-most important take-away from last night? Is this what all of us gathered around our whatercoolers and coffeepots are discussing this morning? That Obama screwed up because he used the wrong format?

I'm telling ya, it's not just the extraordinary decline of copy editors at the Post that is disheartening; it is also the increasingly self-evident decline in editorial judgement by desk editors. (In this case, the online desk editors, who -- unlike the dead tree peeps -- do NOT have a long tradition of good/great desk management, judgment and skill.) I just don't see a Ben Bradlee or a Len Downey countenancing this kind of thing.

And it isn't that I don't like Shales; I do. And he's entitled to his parochial viewpoint (although I really hate stories that deliberately raise false issues for the sole purpose of knocking them down). Shales' piece needs to be placed toward the bottom of the eight or ten sidebars on this event, not the #2 spot. Sweet Jesus, Obama failed to deliver a fireside chat. Well, he failed to deliver my pizza and half a dozen knee-slapper jokes, too. Was he supposed to?

Posted by: curmudgeon6 | September 10, 2009 8:16 AM | Report abuse

SCC: watercoolers, of course. But gee, I kinda like whatercoolers, now that I contemplate it.

Posted by: curmudgeon6 | September 10, 2009 8:18 AM | Report abuse

I liked the joint session format because it gave the town hall style shouters even more rope. I thought the heckler was some yahoo in the peanut gallery. When I found out it was a member of congress, I just shook my head. Milbank had a good discussion of the theater and tactics the Republicans were using that just made them look juvenile.

Posted by: yellojkt | September 10, 2009 8:26 AM | Report abuse

New Kit!

Joe Wilson's words.

Posted by: yellojkt | September 10, 2009 8:44 AM | Report abuse

I just got this email from “S” and thought it worth sharing.

“Just in - the new “Joe Wilson slimy self immolating slinky” just put it at the top of your stairs and it picks up speed as it crashes and burns when it hits bottom. Your uncivil kids will love it!
Try the new “Joe Wilson” yo-yo. Flip it down the string and it shouts ‘you lie’ then the string breaks and it rolls away never to be found again. Your uncivil kids will love blaming its loss on the President.
Get the new “Joe Wilson apologizing doll”. This is bound to thrill your uncivil kids as it automatically stuffs its foot in its mouth and tries to say ‘I’m sorry’ at the same time. This product has been approved by the President’s Chief of Staff. (This doll is not recommended for anyone with an IQ.)
Of course there is always the free Joe Wilson bobble head doll. It’s absolutely free plus free shipping and handling. Actually the doll is $190 and S&H is $50 – so I lied – so what?”

Posted by: badsneakers | September 10, 2009 8:48 AM | Report abuse

Mudge, what a great point. I stand and applaud you ... 5 standing O's ...

In fact, I connect your point about the editorial take away by the post and comments that I just heard watching the online replay of the Rachel Maddow Show and the Barney Frank segment.

We have a connection to the British way of doing business and sometimes, it is exactly Wilson showing his public disdain for the President, and then, the President's ability (the ability of a black man overshadowing a poorly simple and ignorant guy from the deep south) to make his case so eloquently and correctly in the face of shouting sealed the deal in front of 100's of millions of people right there at the lectern of the people's house.

Mudge, it could not have been better. That's where it needed to be. Right there with all the Federal elected and appointed representatives.

Do over? What a laugh. The Republican leadership were "gaming" the process from the very beginning. The only way there would be a supported "do over" would be if they first apologized to the American people for wasting our time for 7 months while they played their politics. Seriously apologized--admitting that they are personally responsible for the pain of those Americans who, during that period were being denied coverage or going into bankruptcy or even, as the President referenced, dieing because of their very very bad behavior.

Back to your point, yes, Mudge, right there in front of the Republicans and those Democrats who need to get the "Git er done" message.

The truth is that the Republicans are still getting more donations from the Insurance companies this year than during the last election cycle. They are trying to fill their coffers. That's it. This is all about elections and not about serving the public.

Posted by: russianthistle | September 10, 2009 8:59 AM | Report abuse

Only two people got mudged and they reposted.

Posted by: yellojkt | September 10, 2009 9:07 AM | Report abuse

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