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The Most Earth-Like Planet

titan_north_polar.jpg

This is a Cassini picture of the north polar region of Titan (right, ScienceTim? -- it came over the transom a couple of weeks ago). Dang if it don't look like the Chesapeake. That's the Potomac squiggling off to the left (or the Rappahannock?).

I'm working on a space story for the magazine and in the process I may try to make the case that the most Earth-like planet in the solar system is not Mars, as we tend to think, or Venus, which people once viewed as an Earth-twin because it was the same size, but Titan -- because all it's missing is the biology. It has all the geological dynamism of Earth. There's no other planet with weather on this scale. It has cyclones. It has erosional features. Really there should be more Titan forecasts on our own Weather Channel. "Overcast with scattered methane showers," etc.

That said, I don't think Titan can match the September morn we got going here in DC. It's clear and bright with a chance of sparkling. So nice outside one is almost tempted to skip watching the Gators beat down the Vols this afternoon. (Now that's crazy talk.)

Update: ScienceTim -- the boodle's house astronomer -- tells us that he supports the premise:

I do know that it's from the northern regions of Titan, but only because I was reading something the other day that specified that all the radar-dark lakes that have been observed so far are in the far north. Note that what you see in that image is radar. There is good reason to think that the broad dark regions are made by a smooth (relatively waveless) fluid surface, but there's still some wiggle-room. In visible light, I suppose it might be clear. I really don't know.

Let's see, which is more Earth-like, Venus or Titan? Gravity: Venus is about 0.9g, Titan is about 0.14g. Advantage: Venus Atmosphere: Venus is CO2 and H2SO4 (sulfuric acid), Titan is N2 and CH4 (methane). Advantage: Titan. Atmospheric pressure: Venus is about 93 atmospheres, Titan is abotu 1.5 atmosphere. Advantage: Titan. Surface temperature: Earth average temperature is about 275 K (Kelvin) last I heard. Venus surface is about 733 K. Titan surface is about 95 K. Absolute zero is 0 K, so we can use ratios with this temperature scale. Venus is 2.7 times Earth temperature is 2.9 times Titan temperature. Advantage: Titan. Weather: There is no component of Venus' atmosphere that can form a stable condensate at Venus surface temperature. Methane in Titan's atmosphere can condense to a liquid. In fact, a major open question for Titan is understanding why the methane has not all condensed onto the surface and left a pure N2 atmosphere, in which the atmosphere would cool down but the surface would heat up. Titan faces some climate problems related to Earth climate problems, but in a weird inverted form. Advantage: Titan.

Adding it all up, I see that Titan wins 4 challenges out of 5. Titan is the more Earth-like. Hooray!

Except for one thing -- Venus might once have supported Earth-like life at the surface. Titan never could have, but it is barely possible that some day it might: http://adsabs.harvard.edu/abs/1997GeoRL..24.2905L

Whether Titan could support Earth-like life within a liquid-water mantle below the crust is even more an open question. We'll be checking on Europa first, before we look at Titan for that purpose: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Europa_Jupiter_System_Mission

By Joel Achenbach  |  September 19, 2009; 9:37 AM ET
 
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I think West by god is just left of the Potomac. and go ahead Joel,you can watch the smackdown highlights on Sports center tonight....

Posted by: greenwithenvy | September 19, 2009 9:58 AM | Report abuse

Arrr, mateys! This is why we love Joel... he's got a handle on the pulse of the boodle and knows when it's time to forge ahead into Weekend Mode.

This one-eyed, peg-legged old-lady boodler has a couple of shout-outs from yesterday...

DNA Girl, your pome of 11:35 last night is beautiful. Especially coming from you. Promised land, indeed.

iamweaver... how in the world did you ever think you 'lacked the wit to two-step' here? Welcome! I sure do hope you stick around.

Posted by: -TBG- | September 19, 2009 10:06 AM | Report abuse

The more we explore the solar system and beyond, the more special Earth looks. We are really one part of a binary planet and our big neighbor gives us tides and a littoral zone. Our geology is a giant recycler of nutirents that keep the biology abundant.

It is a good day to be alive.

Posted by: edbyronadams | September 19, 2009 10:09 AM | Report abuse

“S” woke me up this morning with, “Avast ye wench...” so I knew right off what day it was. He’s now up on the roof painting. It is gorgeous here as well, clear blue sky, breezy and comfortable. Great weather for, yep, painting! My arms are very tired from yesterday’s exertions but we’re almost done with the front and I can’t wait to put the shutters up to see how great it will look. Neighbors have stopped by to tell us how much they like the color change which reenforces my decision to go for the traditional ‘capey’ look. Hope everyone has a great day and is able to get out to enjoy the weather, if applicable.

Posted by: badsneakers | September 19, 2009 10:13 AM | Report abuse

Reposting, or as we likes ta say, runnin' 'er up the yardarm agin:

'Arrrrgggghhh. Shiver me timbers. Fer ye newby swabs, 'tis Talk Like a Pirate Day (http://www.talklikeapirate.com/) aboard this here shipwreck of a blog, so avast. And like that.

Welcome, iamweaver. You show signs of great promise. Regarding the plural of forum, it is "forums." Not all Latin words taken into English retain their Latin endings (and even when they do, they usually don't do it correctly). We usually use stadiums as the plural, and on the rare occasion when someone uses "stadia," is sounds prissy and pretensious (which it is).

We do still use media as the plural of medium when talking about things like television, newspapers or whatever, as well as things like painting supplies. However, the one exception are fortunetellers: two or more of them are mediums, not media.

Of course, you are probably aware of the huge, raging debate over "data." It is a matter of solid fact that about two-thirds of all (American) language experts consider data to be an acceptable collective singular, while about one-third do not. The hold-outs tend to be in the scientific and academic communities. The GPO stylebook that I use at work (by fiat) allows it; the APA does not.

"Agenda" is dead wrong from the git-go. It is presumed to be a singlur and two of them would be agendas in English. But the proper Latin singular is agendum, but you never hear anyone ask to have an item put on this week's agendum.

Latin seems to be the only language whose loans words into English people seem to think require their "proper" Latin plurals. Nobody ever argued that the plural of dachshund in English ought to be dachshunden. What's the "proper" French plural of croissant? Hell if I know.

(The whole Latin plural debate is screwed up from the start, anyhow, because those Latin endings people argue about only apply to nominative and accusative case [which are always the same]. Where is it written that the plural of datum is always data? Because it isn't. Properly speaking, in the phrase "an analysis of the data shows that..." it actually ought to be "an analysis of the datorum shows that..." if people want to get all bent out of shape (shapus bentorum) about proper word endings.

Alrighty then!! Time to go walk the plank (Tempus est plankorum strollio fugit).

Posted by: Curmudgeon- | September 19, 2009 9:10 AM |

Posted by: curmudgeon-1 | September 19, 2009 10:20 AM | Report abuse

Arrr, do I espy the the hand of that cur Slartibartfast in them fjords?

Posted by: Boko999 | September 19, 2009 10:26 AM | Report abuse

Arrgh mateys and ahoy to edbyronadams - nice to see you again.

I think those coves & inlets are excellent places for pirates to lurk. Pirates on Titan. Titanic pirates. Tirates. Piranes. Piranhas? I'm picturing tentacles with an eye patch and pirate hat, and a spiky blob squawking on its shoulder.

Posted by: Ivansmom | September 19, 2009 10:30 AM | Report abuse

In the great minds think alike, even when they disagree category, I have to shout out to mudge(is it ok for this newb to call you mudge?)about yesterday's posts. After sharing my post I read through the rest of the previous posts and discovered that mudge and I had made almost identical points from completely opposing perspectives. I just wanted mudge to know that I posted my thoughts before reading his post and didn't, as it appears, steal all his ideas and use them to argue the opposite of his pov. It was pure coincidence; I swear.

On another note, it is a sunny and beautiful morning here in mudge's old stomping ground of SE Pennsylvania. Mr. Finnegan, my canine role model, is anxious to get out and meet all the dog-friendly peeps enjoying the weather. Puppy kisses to all.

Posted by: lostinthemiddle | September 19, 2009 10:33 AM | Report abuse

As an antidote to all this sun-fest, I'll note that it is raining cats and dogs here. It is not yet a toad-strangler but looking like it. I'm on my way to a (soggy) farmer's market and morning shopping. Good thing we pirates can swim.

It is looking more and more if our State Fair outing this afternoon will move to Plan B: NOT to go to the Fair today, or anywhere else outside. It is also looking as if our long-term plan to mow the ecosystem when it dries out will be delayed well past tomorrow afternoon.

Howdy to lostinthemiddle too. We've been very lucky the past few days to have so many lurkers or new posters drop in. Keep 'em coming y'all! Y'all mateys, I mean. Arrrgh!

Posted by: Ivansmom | September 19, 2009 10:45 AM | Report abuse

Hi, lostinthemiddle. Sure, feel free to call me mudge; everyone else does, and FSM knows, I don't stand on formality. But I may have a slight issue with your handle, because we also have a lostinthought Boodler of longstanding, and it may be difficult to distinguish between you two losties. So you may wind up being "lost2," for short, but no slight or offense intended.

As it happens, I've run across your postings on a few other blogs, and I was aware of you before you showed up here.

And you don't have to apologize or explain about those points; I do that all the time, too. When one is writing a long diatribe, one misses the postings going on. I never worry about stuff like that.

Where in SE Penna are you from? Two other Boodlers come from that turf besides me. omni used to live in lower Bucks County, and dear dbG still lives in the Greater Northeast section of Fuldullfya.

Posted by: curmudgeon-1 | September 19, 2009 11:01 AM | Report abuse

I'm in central Bucks these days. A Jenkintonian by birth. For beltway creds I offer exhibt C. - my diploma from Gaithersburg HS, G-burg, MD. Go Trojans. (I think its Trojans??)

Litm, or some such equivalent, has been the lazy version of my blogonym for some time, but feel free to improvise.

Posted by: lostinthemiddle | September 19, 2009 11:21 AM | Report abuse

Arggh. I be callin' attention of this here Boodle to this op-ed piece by Matt Latimer, a former Bush speechwriter, that is very good. One of the better grafs, which concerns the alleged genius of superbrain Karl Rove:

"After the 2004 election, Rove was given a far-reaching portfolio -- overseeing political affairs, policy and personnel. His operation went on a power trip -- and was ineffective at advancing conservative ideals. After Rove took over policy chores, the administration passed no significant conservative legislation through a *Republican* Congress. Within 24 months the GOP lost the House, the Senate, a majority of governorships and the presidency."

Nice job, Karl. You done good.

Posted by: curmudgeon-1 | September 19, 2009 11:22 AM | Report abuse

Just as LostInThought it LiT, so shall LostInTheMiddle be LitM...

Or would that be LiM?

*consulting the Big Book O' the Boodle*

:-)

Posted by: Scottynuke | September 19, 2009 11:43 AM | Report abuse

Ah, I love Jenkintown, and Central Bucks, too (and northern Bucks). Where in Central Bucks? I worked for the Doylestown Intelligencer during the summer of 1968. Where do you work/what kind of job? (Not name of specific company, but generically).

So you must have been born at Abington Hospital, yes? The mother of one of my best friends was for decades a nurse delivering babies there (maybe she delivered you!), and my cousin's wife was also a nurse there for many years.

Posted by: curmudgeon-1 | September 19, 2009 11:44 AM | Report abuse

Arrgh!

Something to consider, of course, is what we're seeing in that picture is the Titanic Arctic -- but instead of seas of liquid water washing up against glaciers of water ice, we have seas of liquid methane and an ice cap of - methane, ammonia, who knows what (maybe even water).

Hint: It's friggin' COLD on Titan, isn't it? Like - 150C or - 250F? If there's life there - and that's a big if - it's not evolved to a point where they're making Happy Face features visible from orbit quite yet.

Another contender for "Most Earthlike Place in the Solar System" would be the Jovian Moon Europa, which data suggests has an iron core surrounded by rock, and a layer of water ice on the surface, which maybe floating on a layer of liquid water, or at least slush. One could think of it as Waterworld left in the freezer for awhile. It's also really really cold (in that -200C ballpark IIRC), but like Titan, may have a active geo- I mean, *euro*logical processes (sounds like something to see a doctor about), from the gravitaional tugs of it's host planet and maybe even a degree of a magnetic field from it's iron core - someting I don't think Titan has.

On the surface, I'd say Titan's weather is like Earth's, but if you slice them down to the core, I'd say that Europa may be more Earthlike - and possibly a host for earthlike life (deep sea hydrothermal vent-type).

Arrgh.

But there are scientists - like *Tim - who'd know better than I.

bc

Posted by: -bc- | September 19, 2009 11:49 AM | Report abuse

Spectacular morning here as well, clear blue skies and mid 60's temps. Had to go meet a client on the way home I was coming down the ridge at the north end of the city. On a clear day you can see all the way to downtown Toronto, today was particularly clear and the view was as far as the eye could see, Toronto 50 km away, across the lake to the escarpment wrapping around the point of the lake, a few trees just beginning to put out some fall colour, wish I had had a camera with me.

Posted by: dmd3 | September 19, 2009 11:59 AM | Report abuse

Lovely Toronto visual dmd!
Now that I have a nephew there, I can imagine it all the more vividly.

Posted by: DNA_Girl | September 19, 2009 12:09 PM | Report abuse

Affirmative on Abington Hospital, I also worked there in the early 90s. If she was there in the summer of 1970, she probably did deliver me. Now I live within a few miles of the Intelligencer office outside of D-town.

I'm a sculptor, I work freelance doing digital 3d modelling for jewelers.

Ummm.... Arrrgh! Shiver-me-timbers, Ye'll ne'er get me buried booty!

Posted by: lostinthemiddle | September 19, 2009 12:13 PM | Report abuse

Puppy kisses? Ugh.
About face, present tails for
inspection instead.

-Sgt. Wilbrodog-

Posted by: Wilbrod_Gnome | September 19, 2009 12:19 PM | Report abuse

Mudge, well arrrgued about Latin.

I pick which plural walks the plank by the audience style; if it be a merry band of Englishmen or Yanks that ken English well, avast with the Latin plurals!

Being a scurvy dog, I will raise a cup of grog and let them hiss the esses all they want.

But most pirrrate 'splorers on the seas of science crew fellas from all over, arrrguing over how to say arrr's-- spanish flap, rrretroflax, welsh alllews.

(I rrrue the day we let the phoneticist on board. He didn't walk the plank quick enough; he coached them sharrrks on enunication as he went down).

When they got down to whether everybody should use their own plurals, cutlasses came out, I tell ye.

I found meself tied to the crow's nest one fine afternoon, with a bunch of Rrromance speakers who fancied themselves scientists, ready to mutiny if they had to use 'orrible English plurals against common sense.

The wind hit a calm, and I told them to go take out the captain's best rrrum, and we'd talk it over.

By and by we all sat on a dead man's chest, eighty of us, and agreed that we should use the Latin plurals, just because no scientist should be forced to endure the corrigenda of deckhands when it be only one datum that needs a corrigendum.

We made up a song called "Ex Puritibus, Pluris pro Unibus; Pluribus pro Unum" (Out of purity, many for one, one for many).

We had problems with the worrds then-- the rrrum was getting mighty powerrrful then.

When they fell asleep, I slithered out of my ropes and took command again, and made them do science no end, and cut the throats of any deckhands that made catcalls about their unpirrately language.

So I warn ye, Mudge, if you're going to rrouse the rrabble again about Properrr English, my plank ye'll walk.


Posted by: Wilbrod_Gnome | September 19, 2009 12:39 PM | Report abuse

Gentle boodlers,

Reading yesterday's string reminds me of why I am still here and happy to be just that. Who was the newish person commenting on rhetorical strategies? Thanks for that.

Here is a tiny bit of Aristotle for us: the emotional arguments are what Aristotle would call the proofs of or appeals to

pathos.

Pathos evidence hits our hearts and emotions. These arguments are extremely powerful, more so that the logos or rational arguments.

Example: the animal cruelty spots backgrounded by Sarah McLaclan vocals.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9gspElv1yvc

Highly effective, largely due to pathos appeals.

Glenn Beck irritates me, so I do not watch him. He is part of a larger media-personality phenom on both right and left. Personality journalism is not always forthright about the opining underway. But, those who think we can have "just the facts" served up hot and ethically-nutritious oversimplify what journalism can and should do on the best days.

--
Off to some cooking and gardening and work-work-work: Cue Hi Ho, Hi Ho.....Off to work I go....

Posted by: CollegequaParkian | September 19, 2009 1:23 PM | Report abuse

I know we've moved from Beckistan, but some boodlers might like Gail Collins' gentle take on the topic by way of Guiding Light:
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/09/19/opinion/19collins.html?hp

Posted by: DNA_Girl | September 19, 2009 1:44 PM | Report abuse

Yon be a good article, DNA_girl.
No hanging from the yardarm today for you.

Posted by: Wilbrod_Gnome | September 19, 2009 1:55 PM | Report abuse

The steambath continues, albeit it's reasonably comfortable around sunset. Did an urban forced march yesterday evening. Confirmed that the antiquated city power plant has a colony of monk parakeets living in the transformer yard in front of the building.

Posted by: DaveoftheCoonties | September 19, 2009 1:58 PM | Report abuse

That's a provocative notion Joel. I guess it depends on the criterion one uses, and I think you have made a good case for something other than size and neighborhood.

bc makes a good case for Europa too, especially since I once saw a cool IMAX movie that suggests that there are giant squid critters living under the ice.

Of course, I'm still holding out hope for the Mushroom Planet.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eleanor_Cameron#Mushroom_Planet_series

Posted by: RD_Padouk | September 19, 2009 2:46 PM | Report abuse

Oh, cute.

Er... will these monk parakeets wreak havoc in the city or something?

Posted by: Wilbrod_Gnome | September 19, 2009 2:46 PM | Report abuse

Full ginsberg?

http://news.yahoo.com/s/politico/20090918/pl_politico/27300

Posted by: Wilbrod_Gnome | September 19, 2009 2:49 PM | Report abuse

David Brooks observed another side to that infamous rally:

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/09/18/opinion/18brooks.html?em

Posted by: Wilbrod_Gnome | September 19, 2009 3:02 PM | Report abuse

'tis harrrghd to write
proposals with a noose on,
peg-leg 'n' eye-patch,
to say nothing of the hook;
I thank ye for the reprieve.

Posted by: DNA_Girl | September 19, 2009 3:07 PM | Report abuse

`Tis breezy wi' beautiful blue skies here in paradise. T' all th' Boodlers, happy talk like a swashbuckler tide!

Posted by: MiddleofthePacific | September 19, 2009 3:17 PM | Report abuse

I am proud to say that I was once [mis]quoted in the Doylestown Intelligencer. The Boodle connections are vast.

Posted by: -TBG- | September 19, 2009 3:18 PM | Report abuse

Well, I'm coughing my *AARRRRRRRGGG* today; I suspect the parrot on my shoulder is molting and his dander is making me sneeze and cough. It's either that or the ragweed. Hard to tell.

What a fantasmagorically gorgeous-beyond-memory day! I have come home finally from all of the errands I planned for today (and one I didn't), and I'm settled down before my exquisite Mac with a substantial mug of Vanilla-Almond tea. Ahhhhhhhhh. Or because today is "today" it should be "Arrrrhhhhhhhhh", eh?

Nice to see new boodlers on our, um, menu. I, too, lurked for many a day before I plunged into the pool. I even took a sabbatical before I came back. Because, yanno, this is where the heart is.

I'm pretty surprised that the Beckian kit was not taken over by trolls. In fact, IIRC, I recall only one post that was troll-like. Well, they're all looking for attention anyway, so the best thing to do is ignore 'em.

Hope everyone is having a good weekend. Tomorrow is supposed to be like today, only warmer. But such gorgeousness! Sheer delight. Honest Pirates!

Posted by: -ftb- | September 19, 2009 3:28 PM | Report abuse

nelson here.

thanks all for saying giving me a shout out yesterday. i almost feel guilty popping up out of nowhere. and yes, i was quite surprised at the mostly civil tone in the boodle on the beck kit -- quite an irony considering the topic! :-)

is cassandra mia? so sorry to hear that. maybe her computer broke again.

it's warm (77) and overcast here. muggy. wish it would rain.

i see piracy is still alive on the high seas of the boodle! you all must have had a swell time in the midst of the somalian pirate outbreak!!

gotta go finish the laundry. take the dogs for a walk. saturday stuff. i don't mind it a bit.

nelson

Posted by: shellinelson1 | September 19, 2009 3:36 PM | Report abuse

nelson... it's great to see you here again! I hope you can stick around!

Posted by: -TBG- | September 19, 2009 3:44 PM | Report abuse

Front of the house is finished, looks great. "S" is mowing and I just finished some garden neatening. I'm writing this on my new laptop while sitting on the porch. I love the portability, reminds me of my first 'cordless' phone many years ago. I realize that comment dates me but hey, I'm not young. I do wish we knew what's up with Cassandra. I hope she's okay.

Posted by: badsneakers | September 19, 2009 3:49 PM | Report abuse

Sneaks -- just remember the mantra, and repeat after me:

"The older we get, the younger it gets."

I'm still, in vain, trying to teach that to my body parts. Rice Krispies isn't the only thing that goes "Snap-Crackle-Pop" .....

Nelson, we all pop up out of nowhere (well, most of us do -- not sure of others and from whence they pop). Glad you're here.

Posted by: -ftb- | September 19, 2009 4:13 PM | Report abuse

aaaaaaaaarrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr!!!!

there i feel better. i am so slammed at work right now. hope all and sundry are doing well.

Posted by: LALurker | September 19, 2009 4:22 PM | Report abuse

Since it was so nice decided to take my eldest on a drive to show her the sight I saw driving around this morning. Hard to get good photos as there are not a lot of good places to pull over and take photos, but we have a few, best view is from a very busy road so pulling over to take a photo not advised. Hiking around was out of the question due to the eldests sore ankle.

http://picasaweb.google.ca/dmd2921/September192009?feat=directlink

Various views taken from the escarpment - just west of Toronto.

Posted by: dmd3 | September 19, 2009 4:25 PM | Report abuse

Inspired by both the IBPH Crab Feast a couple of weeks ago and Safeway's sale on backfin crab meat this week, I just made a big pot of my mom's delicious crab soup.

Here's the recipe, in her own Palmer Method handwriting, for anyone interested. Not sure why the two different versions, but mine is somewhat of a mixture between the two...

http://i37.tinypic.com/ab3rxz.jpg

Posted by: -TBG- | September 19, 2009 4:30 PM | Report abuse

Hi Nelson! So good to hear from you!

Enjoyed the photos, dmd. We are wishing for rain around here, as we are dry, dry, dry. 84 and cloudy, with scattered showers. Too scattered.

Posted by: slyness | September 19, 2009 4:31 PM | Report abuse

dmd... those are beautiful pictures. The wildflowers on the side of the roads this year were spectacular everywhere. I think it had to do with a combination of plenty of rain in the spring and early summer and the lack of funds for mowing this year.

I also really, really love the name of the real estate agent on Photo #10: Sandy Smallbone.

Posted by: -TBG- | September 19, 2009 4:37 PM | Report abuse

Well, it's more than beautiful here on Chappaquiddick on Martha's Vineyard. The air is clear and bright, the sun is shining, and the ocean is sparkling in that September way. Too too gorgeous. I've been here since Wednesday with my daughter and a friend whose house is on a rise overlooking the Edgartown outer harbor.

Yesterday my daughter and I spent the day driving all over Up Island, visiting all our special places. It was like all summer in a day. Magical.

Tonight we're going to a gallery opening then out to dinner with friends.

Oh, babe, I hate to go. But we must leave tomorrow to go back to Cambridge (another of my favorite places.)

Monday I go up to Marblehead to spend a few days with my oldest friend in the world. And daughter goes back to London.

Bittersweet.

Posted by: rickoshea1 | September 19, 2009 4:37 PM | Report abuse

A grand new adventure begins today. I went to visit my friend Phalanxausage today and acquired some "pink salt" of home meat-curing fame. In the midst of a discussion of various permutations and recipes of bacon, a sudden inspiration hit me: what if I cured a rack of ribs as if they were bacon? This unexpected visit by the muse of the kitchen so inspired me that I acquired the rack of pork ribs on my way home. I believe 3 to 4 days curing in the manner of bacon will ready them for a very slow smoking on the smoker come Tuesday or Wednesday. Along the way I acquired a chuck roast, which, after a long-ago conversation with Phalanx, he assured me he had since used as an experimental cut for corning, and came out quite delicious; not too fatty at all. And a head of cabbage and some kale just for giggles as well. Thus, a dual curing regimen is to commence soonest. Arrrr! Off to work!

Posted by: Jumper1 | September 19, 2009 4:38 PM | Report abuse

Jumper! Yer makin' me hungry! And after the week I've had (and frosti, too), that *means* something! Where do you live again?

Posted by: -ftb- | September 19, 2009 4:48 PM | Report abuse

dmd, great pics. I especially liked the wildflower one and the two shots down the road to the water. I took a few sort of like that in Nova Scotia and enlarged and framed one of them.

TBG, I printed out that crab soup recipe as I have a can of crabmeat (yeah, I know it's not the same but what can I do?) and was looking for something different to do with it.

ftb, I've been amazingly free of major complaints during this painting marathon. I have the bee stings which are now itchy as heck and a huge bruise on my thigh from leaning against the stepladder on a downslope and of course I wear braces on my hands at night to counteract the tendonitis, but otherwise I'm just fine. ;-)

Posted by: badsneakers | September 19, 2009 5:04 PM | Report abuse

13-6 gators at the half,I expected a blowout,but Tennessee is playing inspired football.

My relief at work this morning never showed up,I ended up working till almost noon.I guess 4 hours of sleep will do,cause there is good football on.

Maggie O we have a large part of Red Sox nation at our hotel this weekend.

Posted by: greenwithenvy | September 19, 2009 5:06 PM | Report abuse

Speaking of itching ... as I've grown older and as I've now lived down here (in the current incarnation) for 28 years, I've developed allergies. I *never* had them when I was a child, although I recall when I moved to Sweden (at the ripe old age of 29) I started sneezing, with runny nose and runny eyes in the spring (all two days of it), as the pollen was different. I got used to it pretty well, but that may have been the beginning of the end.

I've used Body Shop products for a long time now but I find that my skin has become so sensitive to so many products, the last batch of their shower lotion with aloe really set me off. I'll go to the nearest shop tomorrow (at the mall down the street) and take back just under two bottles of the stuff and get a credit. Other of their products are just fine. But this and the Vitamin E products have left me itching really, really badly. I got some Aveeno and Olay products at the store today (products which my dermatologist recommends) and I hope they do the trick.

Oh, and Michigan beat Eastern Michigan (down the road in Ypsilanti from Ann Arbor) by 45-17 today. Last week's game against Notre Dame was a nail biter right down to the end.

'Tis the season, eh?

Posted by: -ftb- | September 19, 2009 5:13 PM | Report abuse

TBG -- I don't know about you, but I find that it still seems to startle me when I uncover some of my mother's handwriting. I also have a tape somewhere with my father's voice on it, and I remember literally jumping when I heard it (he's been gone for going on 25 years now).

Thanks for the recipe(s).

Posted by: -ftb- | September 19, 2009 5:18 PM | Report abuse

This story is at the intersection of the Burgess/Mclean/Philby story and the journalists who discovered that Philby was a major story. Cold war spying stuff interest at least one other boodler...

http://entertainment.timesonline.co.uk/tol/arts_and_entertainment/books/book_extracts/article6841293.ece

Posted by: shrieking_denizen | September 19, 2009 5:53 PM | Report abuse

i know i've been away from the boodle for a long time. there seems to be a trend toward multiple personality syndrome. mudge has at least 6 iterations. i note jumper has 1 (so far).

are we taking different iterations of ourselves depending upon what activities we are doing, or what topics we are discussing? should nelson1 be default for the general stuff (like a lazy weekend share)? nelson2 perhaps for opinions on things scientific. nelson3 for politics -- nelson4 for other threads?

when did the identification-splintering begin? or is it just plain old fashioned splintering.

or worse, have you all discovered cloning in my absence? is mudge6 the oldest mudge -- mudge1 being the newest clone baby?

:-)

Posted by: shellinelson1 | September 19, 2009 5:54 PM | Report abuse

All the mudges depend on which computer he's signed on with... home, work, etc. The sign-in system is wacky and sometimes you can't get rid of an old handle or sign in under a handle you've been using for years. The minimum number of characters for a wapo handle is four, which will explain the -TBG- and -bc- and -ftb- names.

But the other day there was a Curmudgeon10 who was clearly not OUR Mudge. It was funny how quickly I realized it wasn't him. Just something in the tone, I guess.

Posted by: -TBG- | September 19, 2009 6:06 PM | Report abuse

I've been unable to read the Boodle consistently the last few weeks, but I notice I haven't seen dBG in at least a week (I checked). Did she say she had to go do training for the new job or something? Just wondering.

Posted by: Wheezy11 | September 19, 2009 6:43 PM | Report abuse

wilbrod,
Monk parakeets seem to have been slowly spreading in Florida for many years. They don't seem to have become agricultural pests, and in urban areas, they seem to compete with pigeons for nesting spots and maybe food. We've long had a colony of pigeons in our minuscule downtown, so it'll be interesting to see if we instead get foraging flocks of parakeets.

I saw two mynah birds at Home Depot several years ago, but they apparently didn't stay. That area is apparently perfect mynah habitat: several burger places provide leftover fries.

We should be seeing fall migrants fairly soon.

dmd's Toronto area looks quite nice. Much more habitatble-looking than Titan. Wonder if the latter might have oysters?

Posted by: DaveoftheCoonties | September 19, 2009 6:44 PM | Report abuse

Many computers accuse me of trying to steal back my own identity.

Posted by: Jumper1 | September 19, 2009 6:51 PM | Report abuse

Hi! Boodling 4 the first time with a new htc touch pro. Everything's good @ the new job except 4 their Internet restrictions This may turn out 2 b the answer although response is slow. I'll go check response time on a Blackberry 2moro.

What nerve! Expecting us to WORK all day! :-)

Posted by: -dbG- | September 19, 2009 6:57 PM | Report abuse

Arrr, me buckos, I can't be believin' o' me eyeballs to be seein' such a splendiferous pitcher o' Titan up there at the head. I mean, the top; the head be somethin' altogether different, since the invention of below-decks plumbing fer every member o' the crew.

However, it is beyond my abilities to identify that particular stretch of Titanography. I am a Man of the Stratosphere, and do not truck with mere coastlines and surface features.

Elen Stofan was on NPR the other day, promoting the idea of a very simple Titan boat -- basically, looking something like an Apollo capsule with a radio mast up top, so the gentle winds would slowly move it about on one of those Titanian lakes. Really, more of a raft than a boat. I am not won over: (1) You have to make sure you actually hit a lake, or you're, er, sunk; (2) Once you have sampled the lake contents and estimated the depth, what are you planning to do for your encore? (3) The hard-to-understand erosional processes are all up-hill from the lakes. Admittedly, you can investigate currents and lake-bed deposits.

I am more persuaded by the notion of the Titan Montgolfiére, aka, hot-air balloon. You warm up the gas with waste heat from a nuclear power-source, and drift above the land. You get the chance to observe many landforms, while not having any particular destination in mind. You can move up and down in altitude and thus explore atmospheric composition and temperature details. You can scrape up surface material from many places and examine its composition -- including material from lakes.

The downside of the Montgolfiére is that you have to inflate during descent (tricky and untested) or you need to carry the weight of a landing platform which you then leave behind when you take off -- but the most difficult part of flight, including balloon flight, is take-offs and landings (I am told). The flying part is easy. The nice thing about the boat is that you land on a soft surface and need no landing gear.

Posted by: ScienceTim | September 19, 2009 7:17 PM | Report abuse

ftb, Jumper lives in Charlotte. Close enough for me to visit!

dbG, good to hear that the job is going well. How much do you miss the old one? (Heeheehee. I know the answer!)

Nelson, it's delightful to have you back. Are you having any gardening adventures this year? Do tell!

Yes, the new sign in requirements at WaPo are a real pain, but we've coped and in some cases happily subverted them. You know the boodle, not much gets past this collective intelligence.

I still learn new and exciting stuff here!

Posted by: slyness | September 19, 2009 7:18 PM | Report abuse

NukeSpouse is home!!! :-))) Life is good. :-)

Posted by: Scottynuke | September 19, 2009 7:36 PM | Report abuse

Ah, yes, slyness -- now I remember that Jumper lives in your neck of the woods. How close (or far) are you from where Cassandra lives? I think all of us are feeling kind of worrisome over her whereabouts and her health.

I just did a turn on Google Maps and looked at the two houses I lived in outside of Detroit and then wended my way up Woodward Avenue to the house of friends of my parents (he's 91 or 92 now, and she is 88, I think. Still compos mentis, both of them, although his body parts are gradually getting the better of him (on a walker, etc.). Makes it hard for him to get down into the basement and putter.

It's a bit weird to re-visit those places, even by satellite. I think I detected a possible swimming pool in the backyard of one of the houses I lived in, and perhaps another room extended out in back of the house behind the garage. Ah, well, I haven't lived there in so many decades, but there is a lingering kind of feeling about seeing it. I think it's best that there is a lot that has changed, so that my "ownership" sense can go its merry way and "own" something else -- and in my own right. Like my condo from hell, for example. *sigh*

Gonna go read this morning's "old news" newspaper. Will check in (or not) tomorrow, perhaps after laundry.

Posted by: -ftb- | September 19, 2009 7:43 PM | Report abuse

Nelson was here! Hurrah.

I've had a nice outing to the Asian market; soba salad for supper. And then a night in. I've rather been burning the candle, and look forward to an evening of quiet reading.

Posted by: Yoki | September 19, 2009 7:44 PM | Report abuse

I do know that it's from the northern regions of Titan, but only because I was reading something the other day that specified that all the radar-dark lakes that have been observed so far are in the far north. Note that what you see in that image is radar. There is good reason to think that the broad dark regions are made by a smooth (relatively waveless) fluid surface, but there's still some wiggle-room. In visible light, I suppose it might be clear. I really don't know.

Let's see, which is more Earth-like, Venus or Titan?
Gravity: Venus is about 0.9g, Titan is about 0.14g. Advantage: Venus
Atmosphere: Venus is CO2 and H2SO4 (sulfuric acid), Titan is N2 and CH4 (methane). Advantage: Titan.
Atmospheric pressure: Venus is about 93 atmospheres, Titan is abotu 1.5 atmosphere. Advantage: Titan.
Surface temperature: Earth average temperature is about 275 K (Kelvin) last I heard. Venus surface is about 733 K. Titan surface is about 95 K. Absolute zero is 0 K, so we can use ratios with this temperature scale. Venus is 2.7 times Earth temperature is 2.9 times Titan temperature. Advantage: Titan.
Weather: There is no component of Venus' atmosphere that can form a stable condensate at Venus surface temperature. Methane in Titan's atmosphere can condense to a liquid. In fact, a major open question for Titan is understanding why the methane has not all condensed onto the surface and left a pure N2 atmosphere, in which the atmosphere would cool down but the surface would heat up. Titan faces some climate problems related to Earth climate problems, but in a weird inverted form. Advantage: Titan.

Adding it all up, I see that Titan wins 4 challenges out of 5. Titan is the more Earth-like. Hooray!

Except for one thing -- Venus might once have supported Earth-like life at the surface. Titan never could have, but it is barely possible that some day it might: http://adsabs.harvard.edu/abs/1997GeoRL..24.2905L

Whether Titan could support Earth-like life within a liquid-water mantle below the crust is even more an open question. We'll be checking on Europa first, before we look at Titan for that purpose: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Europa_Jupiter_System_Mission

Posted by: ScienceTim | September 19, 2009 7:45 PM | Report abuse

*Snoopy dancing* just for you and NukeSpouse, Scotty!

Posted by: -TBG- | September 19, 2009 7:49 PM | Report abuse

nelson!!!!!! Great to see you again!

I can't believe that Virginia Tech won that game.

Picking up on something TBG said, I was looking at Michael Dirda's blog, read a comment, and thought "I know this person." It was Mudge.

That's good news, Scotty. Enjoy your evening.

Posted by: -pj- | September 19, 2009 7:50 PM | Report abuse

Cassandra is about an hour and a half east of me, ftb. I called and left her a message earlier in the week, but she hasn't called me back. (Did I remember to leave my number?)

If you haven't read The Guernsey Literary and Potato Peel Pie Society, Yoki, I recommend it. A good read for a cozy Saturday night.

Scotty, please don't overwhelm Nukespouse with love and kindness. She needs a day or so to readjust to reality.

Posted by: slyness | September 19, 2009 7:52 PM | Report abuse

I meant to pick up the Guernsey book today, but never got to it. Right now I am re-immersing myself in the beautifully imagined world of A.S. Byatt's Possession. Fifth reading, I think, in the last ten years. Fabulous and literary and *hard.*

Posted by: Yoki | September 19, 2009 8:15 PM | Report abuse

Just read my invitation to a fund-raising dinner. Individual tickets are $250. You don't even get a "somebody" at your table until you hit the $10K per plate level. You know, I am better paid than I ever imagined that I would be as a scientist, but I certainly don't fly that high.

Posted by: ScienceTim | September 19, 2009 8:15 PM | Report abuse

Al Franken met his wife Franni 40 years ago today-I know because he sent out a cute e-mail about it to all his best pol friends. Wondering if he remembers because it's also talk like a pirate day.

Aarrr me daughter Tomasin asked "Aarr, pops how'd ya meet me mother?"

....I explained that I was at what was known as a freshman 'mixer,' what she knew as a 'dance,' during my first year of college. I saw Franni from across the room. She was organizing some girls to leave and I really liked how she was taking charge, which, in hindsight, is not her best quality... Also, she was just beautiful. So I asked her to dance, and we danced. And then I bought her a ginger ale.

After the dance I escorted her back to her dorm and asked her for a date.

Thomasin wrote the story up with stunning accuracy. She told her class, "...my Dad asked my Mom to dance, bought her a drink, and took her home." Even at a young age, she had a keen grasp of the facts and a real knack for editing.
That night - the first night of the best thing that has ever happened to me - was exactly 40 years ago today. When I was running for the Senate, I used to tell people, "Franni and I are running for the Senate. If we win, I get to be the Senator." Well, we won. And what I said proved true - I get to be the Senator.

Another thing that's true is that I wouldn't be where I am today without the love and support of the most amazing woman in the world.

And, as we start the next chapter of our journey together, I wanted to send supporters like you a note. A funny story from long ago in hopes that you might take a moment today, remember a funny story about someone you love, smile, and be thankful.

All the best,

Al

Isn't that sweet? I'm sure he'll step in it somewhere along the way, but Al is certainly winning over a lot of Minnesotans who doubted he could complete the transition from SNL to the Senate without making us look stupid for electing him.

Posted by: frostbitten1 | September 19, 2009 8:42 PM | Report abuse

That was a sweet letter from Al, Frosti. He seems to be doing well so far and I was quite impressed with his ability to draw the USA with all the states freehand!

TBG, the soup was great, thanks again for the recipe!

Posted by: badsneakers | September 19, 2009 9:05 PM | Report abuse

I loved those two recipes; TBG's Mom was clearly a *cook.* The differences are subtle but telling.

Posted by: Yoki | September 19, 2009 9:52 PM | Report abuse

Hey, shriek, many thanks for the link to that Philby story (I'm assuming I was the "at least one other Boodler).

Nelson! You're back!! How are you? Been concerned over your health.

Yes, I confess. I have been unfaithful. I have posted on Dirda's blog. Serially.

Posted by: curmudgeon-1 | September 19, 2009 10:31 PM | Report abuse

I'm thinking you and Brag, Curmudgeon.

Posted by: Yoki | September 19, 2009 10:32 PM | Report abuse

I've been a little spinney today, but that was to be expected. I was spinning.

Pardon me if I am wrong, but I could have sworn that the most earthlike thing in the solar system was umm...earth.

It isn't what it used to be, overrun by humankind as it is, but I am pretty sure it still is the closet to earthlike.

Posted by: --dr-- | September 19, 2009 10:33 PM | Report abuse

I was once solicited for a spinning class, so I signed up. Only to find they wanted me to ride a bike. *So* not.

Posted by: Yoki | September 19, 2009 10:41 PM | Report abuse

Frank Rich has a good column in the Sunday NYT. A friend who serves a city manager for a small, affluent city noted, well before the November election, that people are so alienated from the federal government that it's extraordinarily difficult to get anybody on board for local projects; alienation's that contagious.

Now that we have people enraged by Goldman Sachs' seeming control of the Treasury, bailouts for financial companies and GM, and control of health care by the insurance companies, that we might see some libertarians in Congress next year. Maybe Christian libertarians (oxymoron or not).

Then again, this sort of rage can be manipulated by, say, coal companies in West Virginia:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/michaeltomasky/2009/sep/09/sean-hannity-rally-coal?commentpage=1

Posted by: DaveoftheCoonties | September 19, 2009 10:44 PM | Report abuse

Scotty, FYI I am sitting here giggling uncontrollably over the plural of croissants.

Posted by: --dr-- | September 19, 2009 10:49 PM | Report abuse

dr-- dare I ask why?

Posted by: Wilbrod_Gnome | September 19, 2009 11:03 PM | Report abuse

You're right, Yoki, Brag would be interested, too.

Posted by: curmudgeon-1 | September 19, 2009 11:19 PM | Report abuse

Hmm. I brought the batteries on the new device to their knees quickly, so here I am on a big computer again. What I really want is a large keyboard and screen that fold up very, very small, in a lightweight package.

If computers were origami, what shape would they be?

LitM, welcome! Jenkintown and a dog peep, no less! I suspect we have some mutual acquaintences @ Abington or perhaps BCCC.

Thanks, Wheezy. I had orientation for 3 days this week and then 1 day's training.

Slyness, I miss the old job approaching negative infinity. You know how someone might have been in an abusive relationship and they finally leave but still miss the abuser? It's not like that. I don't miss it AT ALL!

Posted by: -dbG- | September 19, 2009 11:25 PM | Report abuse

Because croissants are croissants in any language... which is the point, really, of keeping the Latin plurals as-is, Mudge.

The fun thing is French has re-imported words from English that were originally French to start with-- Norman French.

Our languages change too fast as they are.

Posted by: Wilbrod_Gnome | September 19, 2009 11:26 PM | Report abuse

Actually, no. Languages die too soon. We loose many, up to 15 every year. And this breaks my heat because one thing I know is that speaking a language teaches us how to see the world.

Posted by: Yoki | September 19, 2009 11:45 PM | Report abuse

SCC: lose

Posted by: Yoki | September 19, 2009 11:52 PM | Report abuse

The news article explains what a Full Ginsburg is:

"The Full Ginsburg, of course, was named for Monica Lewinsky’s lawyer William Ginsburg, who first did the five-fecta of Sunday talk on Feb. 1, 1999. Obama’s move is slightly different – swapping in the Spanish-language network Univision for Fox News Channel."

Fox News is crying foul about being left out. This is two weeks after parent network Fox refused to preempt a reality show to air the health care joint address. That Karma Lady can be a b1tch.

Personally, I think a Triple Lindy is far more impressive.

Posted by: yellojkt | September 19, 2009 11:57 PM | Report abuse

SciTim,
I call foul on giving the Surface Temperature point to Titan. Wouldn't the Venus:Earth ratio of 2.7 beat the Earth:Titan ratio of 2.9? Are we golfing or bowling here?

Besides Titan has the Sirens and Venus is only on the half-shell.

Posted by: yellojkt | September 20, 2009 12:00 AM | Report abuse

It breaks your heart? Sad.

I like knowing more than one language, Yoki, but when I read the argument that we must save language in order to save knowledge, I disagree.

Take a native people, relocate them and cut them off from their old environment, and the language and knowledge of their ancestors knew has already begun to die even if the form, vocabulary and grammar seems constant.

Instead, a new dialect enshrining new knowledge is born. American and Canadian English are two easily documented examples of this.

Yet, this fact and the limited foot travel of hunter-gatherers are precisely why so many language varieties exist in places like Papua New Guiena, Africa, etc.

I chose instead to mourn the cultural traditions that die or are altered, often long before the language itself dies.

And I say this as a signer of a language that was nearly driven to extermination, despite being a necessary food for the brains of those born deaf.

People thought destroying sign language would mean destroying the social apartness of deafness itself. It doesn't work that way.

Posted by: Wilbrod_Gnome | September 20, 2009 12:00 AM | Report abuse

*Tim, thanks for that late tip-in on Europa, though my post from this AM seems to have been roundly ignored, perhaps deservedly.

I know, I know -- we're not supposed to attempt any landings there, and all.

Those daggone monolith/starchild critters may be far more advanced than we are, but they have no friggin' sense of humor.

bc

Posted by: -bc- | September 20, 2009 12:01 AM | Report abuse

Yoki,
I'm not sure how riding a stationary bike became 'spinning'. I guess because you are just spinning your wheels and not going anywhere.

Posted by: yellojkt | September 20, 2009 12:02 AM | Report abuse

I'm not very good at speaking pirate. That is if pirates ever spoke that way. Last week I went to the Real Pirates exhibit at the Field Museum. They explained that the official ship language was whatever the captain spoke and everybody else had to adjust. And while there are no recordings of pirates talking, they tended to write in rather florid 18th century prose just like anybody else of that era that bothered to be literate.

Posted by: yellojkt | September 20, 2009 12:06 AM | Report abuse

Yellojkt, it's Hollywoodized Dorset accent, apparently.

http://www.slate.com/id/2167567

Posted by: Wilbrod_Gnome | September 20, 2009 12:11 AM | Report abuse

That is what I think too, yellojkt. Very sad. I would rather ride my bike through the real world, and risk a fall.

Wilbrod, you just made my argument for me.

Posted by: Yoki | September 20, 2009 12:14 AM | Report abuse

But I would happily flay flax, and make linen on a spinning wheel.

Posted by: Yoki | September 20, 2009 12:15 AM | Report abuse

Yellojkt: oops, you're right. I garbled my work. It was supposed to come out in favor of Venus on the temperature. So, Titan wins on 3 out of 5, much closer than what I claimed.

Posted by: ScienceTim | September 20, 2009 12:21 AM | Report abuse

Hey, Joel: yellojkt pointed out I made a stupid error and garbled my discussion (plus, I just spotted a typo in what you quoted from me). Venus is a smaller multiple of Earth temperature than Earth is a multiple of Titan temperature, so that should have been "Advantage: Venus" and the net result should be for Titan to win 3 out of 5, not 4 out of 5. Can I fix that? Or at least make a further update? Unlike Joe Wilson, I am prepare to apologize profusely and repeatedly, in public. Like Joe Wilson, I am willingly to shamelessly troll for attention.

Posted by: ScienceTim | September 20, 2009 12:25 AM | Report abuse

It is great, Yoki, that you feel language is more than just words or a laundry list of facts organized by grammar, but an organic relationship between people and the environment.

I'd like to read more of that from ethnolinguists myself.

Posted by: Wilbrod_Gnome | September 20, 2009 12:27 AM | Report abuse

@SciTim: just a curious question, but why are all the images from space grayscale? Part two, when did they start getting colored in for publication?

Posted by: Southwester | September 20, 2009 1:05 AM | Report abuse

Southwester, you can backboodle and see what our resident astronomer and physicist have to say about colourizing. Joel too. Space has, as I understand, no colour. They do that to make it appealing to me.

Posted by: Yoki | September 20, 2009 1:12 AM | Report abuse

So quiet here. I have coffee to share, if you would like.

Posted by: russianthistle | September 20, 2009 8:33 AM | Report abuse

I would love some coffee russianthistle, we are out in my house, anxiously awaiting dmdspouses return from the dog park as he usually brings back a starbucks coffee for me.

Posted by: dmd3 | September 20, 2009 8:45 AM | Report abuse

rt-I'll take some coffee. Somehow we managed to run out of decent coffee (not optimum since I don't grind my own beans at Chez Frostbitten, and end up keeping it far too long before being used). But, a good espresso roast from even a national purveyor is better than the one (YES ONE!!!) kind of coffee you can buy in Our Fair City. You may buy medium roast ground coffee in two brands-Folgers or the convenience store brand Hy-Top. I suppose you could count medium roast decaf as a second type, but I will not.

Posted by: frostbitten1 | September 20, 2009 8:48 AM | Report abuse

I'll take a cup, too, Weed; thanks. Last night we had a ham steak for dinner, and there was plenty left over, so this morning I'll make everybody ham omlets. You all have your choice of other goodies too: green pepper, cheese, onion, whatever. Who's in?

Posted by: curmudgeon-1 | September 20, 2009 8:53 AM | Report abuse

I should be out bike-riding but I got distracted by organizing the pictures from my trip to Chicago. Because they were so many, I broke them down. Here are general Chicago pictures including proof for the FBI that we stalk celebrity chefs.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/yellojkt/sets/72157622414489866/

Posted by: yellojkt | September 20, 2009 9:00 AM | Report abuse

I had a good omelet yesterday. It was an egg-white omelet (not that I fear cholesterol, I just had never had it before) with spinach and goat cheese. It was very, very good.

We had a late breakfast yesterday at 10 Arts Bistro Lounge, the restaurant in the Ritz Carlton in downtown Philadelphia. We ate there because the head chef, excuse me, the 'chef de cusine', Jennifer Carroll is a contestant on Top Chef this season and I am starting my next round of celebrity chef stalking. Alas, Jennifer was nowhere to be seen, but the food was good.

Posted by: yellojkt | September 20, 2009 9:07 AM | Report abuse

Do you run to a ham/cheese/mushroom omelette, 'mudge? A favourite.

This morning it is positively chilly. Most people will complain about that, but not me. I like my winter clothes better than the summer outfits, so am happy to hurry the seasonal change.

Have a great day, everybody.

Posted by: Yoki | September 20, 2009 9:07 AM | Report abuse

Back to Chicago, I still haven't finished my review of the U2 concert, but I have at least uploaded all the concert photos my wife took.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/yellojkt/sets/72157622414505862/

Posted by: yellojkt | September 20, 2009 9:08 AM | Report abuse

We had several hours to kill before the U2 show, so we spent it at the Field Museum.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/yellojkt/sets/72157622289915837/

Warning: The photo set contains both dinosaurs AND pirates.

Posted by: yellojkt | September 20, 2009 9:13 AM | Report abuse

Finally, before we headed out of town, we stopped by the Art Institute where I indulged my new hobby of being stealth fine arts photographer.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/yellojkt/sets/72157622289907073/

All pictures were taken without flash in available light.

Posted by: yellojkt | September 20, 2009 9:17 AM | Report abuse

Enough boodlehogging for one morning. Let me know how Obama's Full Ginsberg goes.

Posted by: yellojkt | September 20, 2009 9:18 AM | Report abuse

frosti! I can send you coffee, if you wish.

Ah, I was thinking of a good old fashioned ham steak.

Mudge, I will do the dishes for breakfast.

Posted by: russianthistle | September 20, 2009 9:33 AM | Report abuse

For you, Yoki, I'm sure I can round up a couple of 'shrooms. Cremini's OK?

Posted by: curmudgeon-1 | September 20, 2009 9:43 AM | Report abuse

it would be funny if you buy Creminis and, if you don't use them, they turn into Portobellos.

Posted by: russianthistle | September 20, 2009 10:02 AM | Report abuse

Mudge, not sure sending 'shrooms' across the border is such a good idea :-)

Posted by: dmd3 | September 20, 2009 10:05 AM | Report abuse

Nice pics, yellow. I love the composition of "woman admiring modern art". It is a much more interesting image than the artwork alone would have been.

Good morning all.

Posted by: lostinthemiddle | September 20, 2009 10:09 AM | Report abuse

SWester, I'll confess to not reading much of the backboodle about colorization, but in the cases of images from space probes, there are a couple of reasons why most of them a greyscale -- a primary one being the amount of data transmitted. B&w images consist of less data than a color image. Easier and faster to collect, and can be transmitted more quickly.

When probes take their first images of a target, they're usually in b&w, because if there's some problem during a transit or landing, we'd rather have *some* images in b&w rather than none at all. IIRC, the only images from the surfaces of Venus and Titan were in b&w (there may have been some colorization later), because the probes didn't last too long. You may note in some of those old b&w images that there's a color scale on the side of the image - usually affixed to the craft within the field of the camera - to give earhtbouund scientists a means of gauging greyscale shades for colorization.

Now, in the case of the above picture, it's a radar image -- and I'm not aware that there's a very good way to render microwave into real color.

And in the case of a lot of those Hubble images, I believe that they're also taken in wavelenghts that don't render color visible to the human eye - x-rays, microwave, etc.

The human eyes are wonderful, but there's a lot they don't see.

bc

Posted by: -bc- | September 20, 2009 10:15 AM | Report abuse

Howdy. Yoki, I loved your observation that They color space photos to make them more interesting to you. Funny! Of course, I thought it was to make them more interesting to me.

I'm also with you, Yoki, about the loss of languages. Hereabouts several tribes are actively trying to preserve their language before the elders are gone. Some have been quite successful, others are struggling. Perhaps because language is so tied to the life of the tribe, we tend to accept "language" as a vital part of living culture, rather than some sterile formalized structure.

The rain stopped. The sky is a beautiful clear blue and the air is clean and cool, if a little humid. We didn't go to the Great State Fair yesterday because, despite the sunshine, the ground was still flooded. Today I suspect the Boy will be too puny. He stayed with a friend Friday, and the friend woke up with 101 degree (F) fever Saturday. The Boy's temperature spiked during the evening. His forehead is cool now but he still doesn't feel good.

Posted by: Ivansmom | September 20, 2009 10:29 AM | Report abuse

To answer your question, Wilbrod, from the end of the last kit,

"The plural of croisaant be "calories," ya scurvy 'Mudge ya!! :-)

Posted by: Scottynuke | September 19, 2009 9:25 AM | "

Ah the pleasures of backboodling. Still giggling. Giggling plus morning coffee = good.

Posted by: --dr-- | September 20, 2009 10:49 AM | Report abuse

One of the difficulties of language revitalization projects is that success depends primarily on giving kids a reason to learn and use the language. When they get to be adults, they may feel regret and nostalgia for heritage lost, but as kids, they're going to use the language that serves their social and communicative purposes and probably not put extra effort into using a particular language just because it's traditional or endangered or because their parents/teachers want them to. And that seems to be true even though native acquisition of multiple languages is cognitively easy.

Then, of course, if the kids do adopt the language for their own social and communicative purposes, they'll make creative changes to it -- part of what it means to be a living language, as Yoki/Wilbrod/Ivansmom have already pointed out. It can be hard for elders to accept that saving a language depends fundamentally on allowing kids to change it. (That's why "language revitalization" is so much a better term than "language preservation.")

Overall, a difficult situation, and I greatly admire those groups who are able to negotiate it.

Posted by: -bia- | September 20, 2009 10:58 AM | Report abuse

Good morning all. Another bee-you-tiful day.

LostInTheMiddle....how cool! We have the same first name! And you in the middle...I aspire to that. I'm way out on the edges most of the time.

About astronomy...I've always found it interesting, but sorta abstract. I should have gotten some innate ability from my dad, but it skipped a generation. DC has a knack for it ("Hey Mom....did you know there's a group of stars called Hercules?" Pause. "You can only see it in the summer." Pause. "It sits down low in the sky." Big big pause, and then in an incredulous tone that says what kind of a whackjob is in charge over there says "Did they name that after a movie?") She's got a better grip on it than I do. I try to follow a bouncing ball....

Speaking of which, off to watch football. Have a happy day all.


Posted by: LostInThought | September 20, 2009 11:06 AM | Report abuse

LiT, yet another great DC story. What a kid!

Posted by: -bia- | September 20, 2009 11:18 AM | Report abuse

One of my favorite movies is Woody Allen's Radio Days, mostly because it is brilliantly portrayed from his memories of childhood and is slightly cartoonish because of that. My favorite flashback is the dark, brooding room where he went to Hebrew School, with one dim bulb hanging from the ceiling and the old, hunched-over rabbi who taught it. That's how he remembers this traditional requirement of many ethnic families.

For me it was Greek School. All the cousins and all the kids in Sunday school went to Greek School every week.

My parents had told us those same dark, brooding stories of Greek School from their childhoods... old teachers who knew nothing about how to handle a room full of kids who didn't want to be there. Tales of beatings and beratings.

Then, later, they'd ask us... "want to go to Greek School?"

Yeah, right. And besides, it was a long drive from our far-out suburban ranch house. PLUS... Greek was the language Mom and Dad spoke to each other when they didn't want us to know what they were saying.

So... no Greek School for my sisters and me. And, of course, we all regret it now.

Posted by: -TBG- | September 20, 2009 11:27 AM | Report abuse

The short answer: All pictures are black and white until we put the color into them to make you happy.

Cameras merely detect the intensity of light (by a variety of means) with the wavelength (=color) of that light defined by filters or detection strategy. Thus, for radar, the device emits light (a radio beam) and reconstructs an image from the brightness of the reflected signal. Since we do not see at radar wavelengths, any application of color is an effort to interpret complex information that is different from color as we detect it with our eyes. At "optical" wavelengths (meaning: photons we can detect using imaging array detectors and which are consistent with transitions within molecules and atoms, though not necessarily emitted that way), typically one would take a succession of images through various filters so that pixels for one imaged color will exactly match pixels for another imaged color. We then use those successive images to form a red image, a green image, and a blue image that we superimpose on each other to give you the illusion of color.

Space images have been represented in color for a very long time, longer than we have had nice color TV systems to send it. Many of them are what is called "false color", where we match colors with certain intensities of light, rather than using grayscale images to show intensity. We would do this, for instance, if we want to show something dim within a bright field, or vice-versa, and we want a way to show both bright and dim things at the same time; or, if we want to look at a tiny but important bit of brightness contrast within an otherwise bland field.

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Posted by: ScienceTim | September 20, 2009 11:27 AM | Report abuse

Finally: why don't we just send color cameras into space? Standard color video cameras are a crude approximation. The CCD imaging detector is covered by a filter mask with a pattern of red-green-blue filters. Each pixel sees the intensity of light in only one color. In order to construct red-green-blue information at each pixel, it has to be estimated (interpolated) from the brightness of neighboring pixels that see the relevant color, creating a loss in spatial detail and inaccuracies in sensitivity. It's adequate for a home movie, but not for high-precision imaging. There is a better kind of camera -- the 3-CCD camera. That uses beam-splitters inside the camera (technically, dichroic filters) so that three separate detectors each see just one color. If they are optically well-matched, then an output image can be created with high-accuracy color for each pixel. Either way of building a color camera, however, limits you to just the filters that are installed in front of each detector. For scientific purposes, we may want to use filters that are very different from the sensitivity range of the human eye. We still reconstruct color images from the results, but the color image is pretty far from what you would see with a naked human eyeball. I actually like the 3-CCD concept for certain applications, but it's too limited for space exploration. I'm thinking of something more like a 7- or 9-CCD system to sample the entire visible range reasonably finely.

Posted by: ScienceTim | September 20, 2009 11:28 AM | Report abuse

Thanks for the compliment on the picture, LitM. I normally try to avoid people in my pictures for privacy issues, but I liked the contrast of that ladies clothes. Plus it gave a sense of scale to the piece.

In case you don't want to wade through the whole set, this is the picture in question:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/yellojkt/3935687169/in/set-72157622289907073/

The brand new Modern Art wing of the Art Institute is huge. I didn't even get to the third floor where I suspect some of the more 'normal' modern art was hidden.

Posted by: yellojkt | September 20, 2009 11:32 AM | Report abuse

I know they don't even bother showing them on TV anymore (if they ever did) but my son is performing in the half-time show of the Falcons game today.

Posted by: yellojkt | September 20, 2009 11:34 AM | Report abuse

Very cool, yello. I'll keep an eye out for him.

I've probably mentioned this before, but my sister was in the leg of the 'R' when the UNC band was on the field (I can't remember if they were spelling C-A-R-O-L-I-N-A or T-A-R-H-E-E-L-S.) Every once in a while we'd catch a glimpse of her in the background during the halftime analysis.

Posted by: -TBG- | September 20, 2009 11:40 AM | Report abuse

Still ruminating on the matter of croissants. Contemplating baking some. May have to think more on the matter.

Perhaps a group of croissants ought to be called a calorie of croissants.

Posted by: --dr-- | September 20, 2009 11:48 AM | Report abuse

Don't ruminate too long on those croissants, dr. I don't think they can stand up to it.

Posted by: -TBG- | September 20, 2009 11:55 AM | Report abuse

Productive so far. My kitchen is an earth-like planet today. Chicken enchiladas are slowly assembling. I decided to maximize the chicken stock which will be incorporated into the enchilada sauce which is about done except for that. The gribenes have been fried and the schmaltz recovered for later other uses, the gribenes re-incorporated into the stock along with the chicken bones which were roasted and cracked with a hammer before adding them to the stock also. This has reached a boil and is back on slow simmer. To start the enchilada sauce I utilized two dry New Mexico peppers and two dry Negro peppers (that's their name, what can I do?) and one large dry Thai pepper and tossed them in the skillet a while before putting them in to simmer with water and a little boullion. The tomato paste and onion got cooked vigorously with olive oil for quite some time; I wanted a Maillard reaction to do some magic in the tomato paste.

Posted by: Jumper1 | September 20, 2009 12:05 PM | Report abuse

And don't think I don't know what picture you all are really checking out.

Posted by: yellojkt | September 20, 2009 12:29 PM | Report abuse

I don't pretend to understand all your explanation, SciTim; I just think it's neat NASA went to the trouble of colorizing those pix for Yoki and Ivansmom.

Posted by: curmudgeon-1 | September 20, 2009 12:34 PM | Report abuse

rt-we'll have to work something out re: coffee.

Mr. F is out on my lawn tractor so I am inside. Better position to restrain myself when he doesn't mow as I would.

Today's big meal will be eaten early-new potatoes boiled then fried with sweet onions a variety of sweet and hot peppers and spicy Italian sausage (local and organic from the farmers market). After adding just enough butter to brown one side to a crisp this hash will be erved with a bit of grated cheese and sour cream. My favorite fall meal, but for the absence of Brussels sprouts as a side dish. Mr. F can't abide the smell though and my recent ailment has me more sympathetic than ever.

So glad I did not plant full sized tomatoes. Despite marauding deer repeatedly eating the top third of my two plants we are now harvesting 15-20 ripe cherry tomatoes daily. Just enough for snacking and salad. Morning glories are done-after a total of 8 blooms. The late warm, and dry, weather has kicked other annuals into overdrive. Cosmos are running amok, easily 6ft tall and blooming like crazy. Nasturtiums tumbling over the perennials add to the riot of orange and yellow from the last of the day lilies and the black eyed Susans. This particular variety of nasturtium is supposed to grow to 7 ft. Ha! One vine is at least 12 feet long. The leaves look like lily pads transported to dry land.

Posted by: frostbitten1 | September 20, 2009 12:41 PM | Report abuse

Yello, I was going to ignore it, but since you bring it up, that's the one I wish I hadn't clicked on. There are number of levels of judgment, from the artist's choice to create it, to the museum's choice to display it, to yours to take the picture, put it in the set, and post the link on the boodle. I hate to be a prude, and I'd have to look and think more about artistic variables before I criticize the museum's judgment, but speaking only for myself regarding your choice to post a boodle link, please don't consider it a particular attraction to your photo set. Makes me less likely to click on your links in the future, in fact, because there's an evident mismatch between our judgments. Of course, if you were just looking for a cheap shock, I guess you can claim success.

Posted by: -bia- | September 20, 2009 12:51 PM | Report abuse

I am shocked by so many Boodlers running out of coffee! For many years, I didn't even drink coffee on days I went to work, but even so, I hate to be without. Also, we usually drink instant (that may shock many of you), but always keep a jar in our emergency stash. And I buy another jar when the current one is at about half - just like I buy gasoline, when the tank is half full (or empty).

Yello, thanks for the U2 pics. We saw James Taylor last night. He was wonderful - voice is still great - sang all the old songs you want him to, and didn't seem to want to leave. He's very funny too, which I wasn't really expecting.

Posted by: seasea1 | September 20, 2009 12:54 PM | Report abuse

Uh, Scotty, please reassure me. All the pre-game shows and all the prognosticators are picking the Jets to upset the Pats. (Which raises the existential question, if so many people are picking the jets, why are the Pats favored?)

I got the Pats, as I assume you do. Would you please order us up some extry mojo? Thank you.

Posted by: curmudgeon-1 | September 20, 2009 12:59 PM | Report abuse

Many beautiful pictures in there. I didn't know such treasures existed in Chicago.

It's a shame that one modern sculpture is so poorly done in comparsion.

And no, I didn't get the joke. (I double dare you to explain it on the boodle-- decently.)

Posted by: Wilbrod_Gnome | September 20, 2009 1:44 PM | Report abuse

Great pictures yello, I see Chicago is having the same great weather we are. Love Chicago such a beautiful city.

Important questions - will there be live blogging of the Emmys - CP I look forward to your fashion comments.

Posted by: dmd3 | September 20, 2009 1:59 PM | Report abuse

The Emmys are tonight? Then there will be live blogging.

Posted by: curmudgeon-1 | September 20, 2009 2:25 PM | Report abuse

And House starts tomorrow!

Posted by: dmd3 | September 20, 2009 2:35 PM | Report abuse

The Emmys are indeed tonight - look for Neil Patrick Harris to sing and dance like it's Dr. Horrible's last stand.

I, for one, will be watching more of the New York football Giants visiting the Dallas Cowboys at their new stadium than the awards show.

bc

Posted by: -bc- | September 20, 2009 2:43 PM | Report abuse

*doing everything I can NOT to jinx it* BUT the Lions are leading Minnesota in the third period by 10-7.

*no jinxing allowed*

Please let them win one game . . . . .

Posted by: -ftb- | September 20, 2009 2:46 PM | Report abuse

We could have a live-blogging mashup with bc talking football and the rest of us, tv and fashion. Works for me.

Posted by: Yoki | September 20, 2009 2:47 PM | Report abuse

Oh, Yoki, I would love to join you in that, but I wasn't born with the gene which allows me to figure out what goes with what, what to wear generally and all that related stuff. Talk about it? Sure. Actually put it into play? Not that much.

*I need a Lady-in-Waiting*

Posted by: -ftb- | September 20, 2009 2:56 PM | Report abuse

Ruh-Roh. Minnesota just tied the Lions. Frosti, did you put your thumb on the scale?

Posted by: -ftb- | September 20, 2009 2:57 PM | Report abuse

ftb, most of the stars have their Ladies in waiting - which makes it all the more fun to laugh at the awful outfits, they paid someone to select it! High fasion to me is a new pair of Keds if it helps any.

Posted by: dmd3 | September 20, 2009 2:59 PM | Report abuse

*tapping my fingers and unhappy with the Iggles and Skins*

Posted by: curmudgeon-1 | September 20, 2009 3:02 PM | Report abuse

*Or Titans, Pats and Packers, either*

Posted by: curmudgeon-1 | September 20, 2009 3:04 PM | Report abuse

Thanks, dmd. I needed that. Actually, I need a new pair of jeans, so I'd better look in the LL Bean catalog to see if they still carry them. Um, it's been awhile. . . .

Mudge -- you know what it's like this time of year. I'm really waiting for hockey season, like Yoki is. And basketball season, too, depending on what the Pistons look like this year. I forget who the new current coach is. *sigh*

Posted by: -ftb- | September 20, 2009 3:14 PM | Report abuse

Zorn showed some huevos to go for it on 4th and 1 at the 20.

Good thing we didn't see 'em on TV.

bc

Posted by: -bc- | September 20, 2009 3:38 PM | Report abuse

Hmmmm, were ladies' maids (or "dressers") the first stylists? Perhaps.

Posted by: Yoki | September 20, 2009 3:45 PM | Report abuse

Haha, ftb. If the requirement to talk about fashion were to be stylish, which of us would have anything to say?

Posted by: Yoki | September 20, 2009 3:48 PM | Report abuse

ftb- so sorry. If it makes you feel better the Tigers are up 4-2 on the Twins.

Posted by: frostbitten1 | September 20, 2009 4:07 PM | Report abuse

Not me, fer sure. Elderdottir has the fashion gene, it must be a mutation because she certainly didn't get it from me! And Geekdottir, bless her, is worse than I am...

Busy day. Whatever became of Sunday as a day of rest? Not happening in my world... However, today's sermon, preached by an African-American woman who is an MD with a seminary degree, was great. Then luncheon for the women of the church, and 160 showed up. (Who wouldn't be enticed by free food?) A good program, if I do say so myself. Skit on Mary and Martha was funny.

Right in the middle, though, my cell phone rings (why don't I ever remember to turn it off???). It's Mr. T, who has our favorite cop and twin boyz at home with him. P has hurt his shoulder and is crying. Thirddottir tells her husband to deal, we'll be home after a while, there's nothing she can do right then. When we get there, he's sleeping on his dad's chest, but he's really not happy. No bruising or deformation, so hopefully it's just a strain. They decided a trip to urgent care is in the cards for the afternoon, and we're waiting to hear.

Posted by: slyness | September 20, 2009 4:11 PM | Report abuse

Oh poor wee fellow. Hoping all turns out well.

Posted by: Yoki | September 20, 2009 4:43 PM | Report abuse

Got an update, the doctor wasn't sure if he dislocated his shoulder or his elbow because he wouldn't be still for the x-ray. (He's 17 months old, imagine trying to keep him still.) Anyway, as the doctor was out of the room trying to read the x-ray, his mother heard a pop! and he began to use his hand again normally. The doctor said it's rare for little ones to dislocate a shoulder but quite common to do it to an elbow. I hope it won't be too sore tomorrow!

Posted by: slyness | September 20, 2009 5:52 PM | Report abuse

Slyness glad the elbow popped back in, our eldest had a dislocated elbow at about three, after playing helicopter with Dad, it did not pop back into place on its own, they had to do it at the hospital a couple of days later, I had to hold her down while they did it - traumatic at the time but as soon as it was done she was better.

Tip for all parents out there - no airplane or helicopter rides, particularly for girls who are more likely to get a dislocated elbow - apparently woman are missng a little bone that helps hold the tendon on. We were told at the time that sometime just pulling a child up by their arms can cause the dislocation.

Posted by: dmd3 | September 20, 2009 6:07 PM | Report abuse

Brings to mind a whole new picture of "helicopter parents."

I'm glad the little guy is OK, Slyness.

Posted by: -TBG- | September 20, 2009 6:13 PM | Report abuse

bia,
I am sorry you were offended. I did not link to that picture specifically, but it is in the photostream and the thumbnail does appear so the risk of accidentally seeing it high.

The actual sculpture is actually less explicit, if also far less tasteful, than many of the Greek and Roman statues elsewhere in the museum.

I wish I had taken notes because I don't have the title or creator of that piece. The accompanying text at the museum explains that the sculpture, which is very well executed, is based on a famous 'naughty' post card (of which I have never seen or heard of) and that when he recreated it he deliberately left cut off the top of the head as part of his artistic statement, which is also intended to take away most of the prurient value of it.

Much of modern art is meant to provoke thought and it often does in unexpected ways.
It seems that it is the tableaux being depicted rather than any actual explicit nudity that is objectionable and that artist seemed to want this reaction.

In my Flickr set from the Museum of Modern Art is a picture of a sculpture that is less eroticized but I find it infinitely more disturbing. I won't link to it here, but it is easily navigated to.

Posted by: yellojkt | September 20, 2009 6:17 PM | Report abuse

yello-the postcard origins would explain the "how easily we used to be shocked" vibe I got from the sculpture. A silly piece but I daresay less controversial than what gets said about art when "you can't even tell what it is and they paid what?!"

Windy enough to knock you out of your socks here. Wonder what ill will come in with this-haven't had any truly cruddy weather in a while.

Posted by: frostbitten1 | September 20, 2009 6:24 PM | Report abuse

Thanks for the condolences (in part) Frosti. The Lions lost (big whoop) but the Tigers won, so all is well.

Time to make a tiny dinner (big lunch) and read the paper.

Posted by: -ftb- | September 20, 2009 6:32 PM | Report abuse

Note to Mudge, watch KTLA, they just interviewed 13 from House - be prepared - Wow.

Posted by: dmd3 | September 20, 2009 6:41 PM | Report abuse

Oh yeah, I remember that one. Yeah, it does have a creepy vibe, but then all overly realistic dolls and mannequins creep me out.

Posted by: Wilbrod_Gnome | September 20, 2009 6:48 PM | Report abuse

I've found the official Art Institute of Chicago webpage for "Woman In Tub" and updated my description and provided a link.

http://www.artic.edu/aic/collections/artwork/186545

Part of the description reads:

"Part of his Banality series, which is characterized by oddly eroticized, comic, and kitsch images, this work demonstrates Duchampian and Pop Art strategies of appropriation and, combining imagery from multiple sources, makes the primary subject taste itself."

Speaking of Duchamp, I was at the Philadelphia Museum of Art yesterday and at the very end of the modern art wing they have a special exhibition of "Marcel Duchamp: Étant donnés'.

The docent had to explain to me how to view the work. In a dark alcove there is a pair of wooden doors with very small eyeslits. You look through the opening and inside is a brightly lit diorama of a field with an anatomically correct female torso without a head or arms or legs below the knee laying in the field. It evokes a very strong feeling of voyeurism and revulsion.

According to the museum website it has been part of the permanent collection since 1969.

http://www.philamuseum.org/exhibitions/324.html

The special exhibit which closes November 29 shows how the piece was conceived and created including early versions of the torso itself. The accompanying descriptions in the exhibit explain how Duchamp spent years getting the skin tone and texture just right.

This from a man who also wrote a name on an upside down urinal and called it art. My picture of that from the Centre George Pompidou in Paris:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/yellojkt/148481078/in/set-72057594138056503/

Posted by: yellojkt | September 20, 2009 7:25 PM | Report abuse

Yes... that branch of art was all about social commentary and shock/disgust.

Give me greek statuery, Renoir, Monet, Van Gogh, and Saturday in the Park anyday, really.

Posted by: Wilbrod_Gnome | September 20, 2009 7:36 PM | Report abuse

Speaking of "They paid what?!", a 'Woman In Tub' (there are three) sold for $1,711,000 in 2000. (Link includes a picture of the piece)

http://www.christies.com/lotfinder/lot_details.aspx?intObjectID=1789235

Posted by: yellojkt | September 20, 2009 7:40 PM | Report abuse

There are a lot of mirror type adornments on the dresses this year.

Posted by: dmd3 | September 20, 2009 7:42 PM | Report abuse

I stand correct apparently the correct term is metallics, also a lot of jewel tones - nice to see the bright colours.

Posted by: dmd3 | September 20, 2009 7:45 PM | Report abuse

Jeff Koons is an alum of Maryland Institute College of Art. I did not know that.

My son reports that the Falcons half-time show was boring and he had to get up too early. Jaded should be his middle name.

Posted by: yellojkt | September 20, 2009 7:46 PM | Report abuse

Personally, I'm all about dogs playing poker and a really fine velvet Elvis.

My second favorite painting, Sargent's Madame X, was quite scandalous when it first appeared in Paris. He didn't exhibit it for another 20 years after the kerfluffle it caused. The Tate has an unfinished, slightly more provocative version.
http://www.metmuseum.org/works_of_art/collection_database/american_paintings_and_sculpture/madame_x_madame_pierre_gautreau_john_singer_sargent/objectview.aspx?collID=2&OID=20012492

Posted by: frostbitten1 | September 20, 2009 7:48 PM | Report abuse

slyness,
I'm glad the little guy is all better. Poor kid that little has no idea what is going on.

I dislocated my shoulder as a teenager on a weekend my parents were out of town. Some neighbors took me to the emergency room and the shoulder rolled back in place while we were waiting. I was told this quintupled my chances for dislocating it again, but it's never happened. So far so good.

Posted by: yellojkt | September 20, 2009 7:52 PM | Report abuse

dmd, I saw a still photo of her on the KTLA Web site. OMG.

Kristin Chenoworth almost lost it there. Vanessa Williams didn't want to play the funny glasses gig.

Posted by: curmudgeon-1 | September 20, 2009 8:17 PM | Report abuse

Ok, Emmy blogging commencing.

Um, what's with the Best Supporing Actress nominees wearing some sort of eyewear during their closeups (well, most of them, anyway)?

And I am a huge Neil Patrick Harris fan. He was killer in "Starship Troopers." When he first appeared in the film, I thought it was something from a "Hogan's Heroes" blooper reel.

bc

Posted by: -bc- | September 20, 2009 8:20 PM | Report abuse

Was that a shot of Neil Patrick Harris arguing with writers, or directors?

Posted by: dmd3 | September 20, 2009 8:21 PM | Report abuse

Kristen Chenoweth redefines elfin. Now I know her squeaky voice from 'Wicked' wasn't a schtick.

Posted by: yellojkt | September 20, 2009 8:30 PM | Report abuse

John Hodgman, who is also PC guy in the commercial that just aired, has a book called The Areas of My Expertise which is full of fake facts. Making him the trivia announcer is a great meta-joke.

Posted by: yellojkt | September 20, 2009 8:34 PM | Report abuse

OK, football blogging.

None of the players are wearing funny eyewear at Cowboys Stadium, though George W. Bush did the coin toss.

I think he declared the toss in favor of his homestate Cowboys, though I don't think there was any conclusive evidence that was the case.

bc

Posted by: -bc- | September 20, 2009 8:35 PM | Report abuse

Tina Fey and Justin Timberlake attempt the second Kanye West joke of the night. And fail.

Posted by: yellojkt | September 20, 2009 8:42 PM | Report abuse

If the neckline for that red dress on the Gossip Girl was any lower, it would be a belt.

Posted by: yellojkt | September 20, 2009 8:44 PM | Report abuse

dmd, it's Harris' m.o. to work with writers to come up with some between-award bits/patter on the fly, depending on who won the most recent award, and other circumstances.

I don't know that you saw arguing per se, as much as real-time writing. Sometimes it's hard to tell, like the sounds cats make at night -- they could be fighting, or there could be kittens in about two months.

bc

bc

Posted by: -bc- | September 20, 2009 8:46 PM | Report abuse

Yeah, yello, but you should hear Kristen Chenowith sing. Awesome. Opera or lighter fare, she'll knock your socks off. She's pretty funny, too, and was great in the late lamented "Pushing Daisies".

I'm not watching any of it. Ivansdad is watching the Cowboys in voluntary solitude. The Boy & I are both puny. I doubt, after I finish my chores, whether I'll be watching anything.

Posted by: Ivansmom | September 20, 2009 8:47 PM | Report abuse

Puny again so soon, Ivansmom? I'm sorry to hear that. Please go to bed soon, sleep well, and feel better tomorrow.

Posted by: slyness | September 20, 2009 8:49 PM | Report abuse

Tina looks like a Grecian goddess with her classic black flowing gown. Lovely and soft hair with modified Gibson rolls at nape and forhead.

Posted by: CollegeQuaParkian1 | September 20, 2009 8:53 PM | Report abuse

Neil P. Harris: sigh. The white tuxedo always screams dental convention to me. Sorry, but there it is, a blatant opinion. Will have to rustle up a fact to suppor this.

Hmm.. the shininess of his lapels screams 80s.

Posted by: CollegeQuaParkian1 | September 20, 2009 8:54 PM | Report abuse

Ah, CqP has arrived! Emmy blogging just wouldn't be the same without you.

Posted by: curmudgeon-1 | September 20, 2009 8:55 PM | Report abuse

Oh my: do not like the fringed pantaloons on the dancy girl. The fringe suggest flapper, which I like. But, perhaps the Gidget midriff ruins the effect.

And, the voice electric modification makes me think of Peter Frampton.

Posted by: CollegeQuaParkian1 | September 20, 2009 8:58 PM | Report abuse

Hayden P's scarlet dress is what a cool blonde can wear. A blonde with reddish tones cannot. She has too much fake tan.

The one shoulder treatment is the Michelle Obama effect...wonder how long that will last.

Joseph Campbell quote...nice.

Posted by: CollegeQuaParkian1 | September 20, 2009 9:00 PM | Report abuse

Very gracious call-out from Jeff Probst to NPH.

Posted by: yellojkt | September 20, 2009 9:00 PM | Report abuse

White tuxedo... oh, I see, the white legs= roots, the shoulder pads, bicuspid surface.

Yes, he could break out in a toothy song-and-dance at any moment.

I'm thinking "Over the Waxed Floss" myself.

Frostbitten, you have excellent taste in portraiture. That has to be one of Sargent's finest work. Never saw it before.

Posted by: Wilbrod_Gnome | September 20, 2009 9:02 PM | Report abuse

Think that Wichita Kansas awardee shoulda hada tie on. I like the suit...but not the Euro-trash ultra wite UNBUTTONed shirt thingie.

Posted by: CollegeQuaParkian1 | September 20, 2009 9:02 PM | Report abuse

Pantaloons - I love it, this is what makes CP's fashion comments so wonderful.

Posted by: dmd3 | September 20, 2009 9:07 PM | Report abuse

Pantaloons is such a splendid word, dmd and now makes me think of Ralph Ciffaretto on The Sopranos

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Pantoliano

Posted by: CollegeQuaParkian1 | September 20, 2009 9:10 PM | Report abuse

I *have* heard Kristen sing. Her and Idina Menzel were both still in Wicked when we saw it. She has some pipes.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qtMN3mXmvqU

Posted by: yellojkt | September 20, 2009 9:12 PM | Report abuse

Kyra in mauve....very nice. Her bust is falling, though...needs a hike up by two inches....if I were in charge of the busts and infrastructure of the world.

Posted by: CollegeQuaParkian1 | September 20, 2009 9:13 PM | Report abuse

Kristin's from Oklahoma isn't she? Loved her on West Wing.

Posted by: frostbitten1 | September 20, 2009 9:13 PM | Report abuse

I adore her voice...and royal blue.. she was the evil wife of evil terrorist on 24

Posted by: CollegeQuaParkian1 | September 20, 2009 9:14 PM | Report abuse

Kevin rockes the emo glasses...very Elvis Costello-ey

Posted by: CollegeQuaParkian1 | September 20, 2009 9:15 PM | Report abuse

Kyra Sedgwick's lips are waaay too big.

I have never heard of most of these movies.

Posted by: yellojkt | September 20, 2009 9:15 PM | Report abuse

The White Shadow finally gets an Emmy.

Posted by: dmd3 | September 20, 2009 9:15 PM | Report abuse

The White Shadow makes the third Kanye joke of the night.

Posted by: yellojkt | September 20, 2009 9:16 PM | Report abuse

Kevin Howard -- it's Jordan Kavenaugh's da -- Boston copper

Posted by: CollegeQuaParkian1 | September 20, 2009 9:16 PM | Report abuse

whoops...Ken Howard...touching gesture to his sunshine girl-wife

Posted by: CollegeQuaParkian1 | September 20, 2009 9:17 PM | Report abuse

dmd,
Jinx.

Posted by: yellojkt | September 20, 2009 9:17 PM | Report abuse

The black and dove grey dresses look nice together...and my goodness she is tall...Kate somebody..but the back of the grey dress is very odd....peekaboo flesh...but not in an interesting way...Gleason has the real-deal accent.

Posted by: CollegeQuaParkian1 | September 20, 2009 9:24 PM | Report abuse

Butter yellow....nice on J.Love Hewet...oh my very unfortunate dress upper story for Patricia A.

Posted by: CollegeQuaParkian1 | September 20, 2009 9:27 PM | Report abuse

There are plenty of empty seats. Everybody is using the movie awards to head for the bar. I may need a drink myself.

Posted by: yellojkt | September 20, 2009 9:27 PM | Report abuse

J.L. Hewit's hair, well, better up than the swirling twirls of high school prom in Iowa city.

Pat. A's hair much nicer.

Dervla Walsh -- again, the real-deal accent. Tis Irish Night. Erin rules.

Posted by: CollegeQuaParkian1 | September 20, 2009 9:29 PM | Report abuse

Oh No...the dentist fantasy came true...so NP Harris' tux was part of a

grand

plan.

Posted by: CollegeQuaParkian1 | September 20, 2009 9:31 PM | Report abuse

Three of us in the bed tonight? Kinky.

They brought out the accountants to make the movie awards seem exciting.

Dr. Horrible for the win.

Posted by: yellojkt | September 20, 2009 9:31 PM | Report abuse

The Irish certainly know how to give acceptance speeches.

Dr. Horrible is tempting me to drink, heavily, perhaps Tequila shots - how could anyone think this would be funny.

Posted by: dmd3 | September 20, 2009 9:32 PM | Report abuse

Alec Baldwin's grey hair looks fine. Nice ice blue tie...

Posted by: CollegeQuaParkian1 | September 20, 2009 9:34 PM | Report abuse

Jessica Lange looks a lot better in green than in a gorilla's hand.

Posted by: yellojkt | September 20, 2009 9:36 PM | Report abuse

Jessica L's jade gown is nice.....and her face is ordinary and aging...another brave and real person...she is related to in laws...from the Iron Range in MN. Hi Frosti...but way east of your fam.

Posted by: CollegeQuaParkian1 | September 20, 2009 9:36 PM | Report abuse

The real "Dr. Horrible's Sing-Along Blog" is so clever and poignant that I forgive them much.

And not just because of Felicia Day.

Well, actually, mostly because of Felicia Day.

Posted by: RD_Padouk | September 20, 2009 9:37 PM | Report abuse

Mac Guy is in the audience next to Drew Barrymore. We could have a live Apple commercial.

Posted by: yellojkt | September 20, 2009 9:37 PM | Report abuse

I don't watch enough TV to make this interesting except to see the fashions. Thanks CP for the commentary.

Posted by: badsneakers | September 20, 2009 9:41 PM | Report abuse

Ann T in sequins dress...unfortunate bust line again...my goodness, what are the stylists doing....revene?

Posted by: CollegeQuaParkian1 | September 20, 2009 9:43 PM | Report abuse

Revenge is what I meant to say...but perhaps these bust lines are about revenue....higher ad rates if droop and sternums are visible?

Posted by: CollegeQuaParkian1 | September 20, 2009 9:45 PM | Report abuse

I did see Grey Gardens, glad it is winning awards, it was great and the only movie in the group I saw, so I don't feel completely clueless, close but not completely.

Posted by: dmd3 | September 20, 2009 9:45 PM | Report abuse

Felicia Day won a Streamy for Dr. Horrible.

Posted by: yellojkt | September 20, 2009 9:45 PM | Report abuse

I think that some of these women are putting waay too much trust in double-backed tape.

Posted by: RD_Padouk | September 20, 2009 9:46 PM | Report abuse

Like the dresses on ALL the Little Dorit acceptees...GLASSES!

Magenta against grey stripes...lovely...and they acknowlede the costume peeps. I.Am.In.LOVE....

Posted by: CollegeQuaParkian1 | September 20, 2009 9:46 PM | Report abuse

So how do you figure out that hadron thing?

Posted by: yellojkt | September 20, 2009 9:51 PM | Report abuse

Jon Stewart's writing team wins. All's right with the world.

Posted by: curmudgeon-1 | September 20, 2009 9:55 PM | Report abuse

The variety writing team nominees are always my favorite part of the Emmys.

Posted by: yellojkt | September 20, 2009 9:55 PM | Report abuse

Yay Jon Stewart et al. That show I do watch!

Posted by: badsneakers | September 20, 2009 9:57 PM | Report abuse

Stewart wins another one!!! Awwwwwwwwwriggggggggghttt!

Posted by: curmudgeon-1 | September 20, 2009 10:09 PM | Report abuse

Cherry Davis running...must have comfy or reasonable shoes.

Posted by: CollegeQuaParkian1 | September 20, 2009 10:23 PM | Report abuse

I dare anyone not to tear up while Sarah is signing live with the tribute running.

Posted by: dmd3 | September 20, 2009 10:25 PM | Report abuse

Sarah MacLachlan...oh my, the Humane Society commercial lady...

Robert Prosky was a fixture of the DC theater scene.

Posted by: CollegeQuaParkian1 | September 20, 2009 10:26 PM | Report abuse

Sarah who, dmd? I'm tv-free at the moment.

Posted by: Wilbrod_Gnome | September 20, 2009 10:26 PM | Report abuse

Okay. I'm crying. Enough.

Posted by: yellojkt | September 20, 2009 10:27 PM | Report abuse

I noticed they used older pictures of MJ, before he became completely weird, good move.

Whenever they do one of these things I'm always surprised at some of the people who have died, apparently my memory for these things isn't very good.

Posted by: badsneakers | September 20, 2009 10:32 PM | Report abuse

Sarah MacLachlan:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nSz16ngdsG0

And for Wilbrod:
http://www.lyrics007.com/Sarah%20McLachlan%20Lyrics/I%20Will%20Remember%20You%20Lyrics.html

Posted by: yellojkt | September 20, 2009 10:37 PM | Report abuse

Sure call me out Wilbrod as I am trying to hide that I always mess up spelling Sarah's last night - Sarah MacLachlan (thanks CP!).

Posted by: dmd3 | September 20, 2009 10:38 PM | Report abuse

Simon is NOT wearing emo glasses...they are the 70s version of thick and artistic-ugly glasses.

Posted by: CollegeQuaParkian1 | September 20, 2009 10:40 PM | Report abuse

wow. live commentary. my 2 bits. nip and tuck. cards v. cubs. scoreless tie, top of the fifth. cubs score one in the top of the sixth. 1, nil, cubs. zambrano (lodo; too many power drinks; gets a contract, drops from 3rd to somewheres around 44th in wins, starts and ERA since signing a 4 year contract in '07)gives up two in the bottom of the sixth, 2-1, cards. dogs and garbage intervene, as both are sunday chores. cubs manage to score two, and chase the starter, cubs up 3-2. two pitching changes for the cards in the top of the eighth. break. taking great pleasure in printing pix for my #2 dott's scrapbook of righteousness, shot at the Dead's opening show in Greensboro this past spring. life *is* good. jessica lange is on the telly?!? *thinking seriously of changing channels*

Posted by: -jack- | September 20, 2009 10:41 PM | Report abuse

Glenn Close has aged elegantly.

Posted by: yellojkt | September 20, 2009 10:42 PM | Report abuse

Glenn CLose hates her shoulders...good gown for that sensitivity. Elizabeth Moss of MadMan is so lovely and real looking....

Posted by: CollegeQuaParkian1 | September 20, 2009 10:42 PM | Report abuse

Glenn Close's dress back is homage to her Cruella de Ville moments...she is a DELICIOUS villianesse

Posted by: CollegeQuaParkian1 | September 20, 2009 10:44 PM | Report abuse

Oh Dear, Dana....again with lost bust perfection opportunities in the upper dress stories...love your glasses but they are like jewlrey and compete with the earrings...chose ONE....lovely tresses....I like this AND the bobbed hair of China Beach days.

Posted by: CollegeQuaParkian1 | September 20, 2009 10:50 PM | Report abuse

Just got home from seeing Inglorious Basterds. Son of G had us laughing when he imagined the pitch meeting with the Weinsteins for that one.

Got here in time to see Glenn Close, who looks mahvelous. Now it's Dana Delaney in her hot librarian glasses.

Brian Cranston wins an Emmy for drama? What is the world coming to?

Posted by: -TBG- | September 20, 2009 10:50 PM | Report abuse

I'm waiting for the Breaking Bad/Weeds crossover special.

Posted by: yellojkt | September 20, 2009 10:52 PM | Report abuse

A small but significant pleasure for me, when Cowboys running back Felix Jones covered up the ball with both hands after sprinting 56 yards and was tackled from behind. I'm *not* a Dallas fan, but from a pure football perspective, that was real old-school August-two-a-day fundamental goodness.

The football gods smile on such things, and the Cowboys are rewarded by taking the lead shortly afterwards.

bc

Posted by: -bc- | September 20, 2009 10:55 PM | Report abuse

china beach. interesting. conjured up this. charlie don't surf.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m1nUkSHRb80

contextually correct.

Posted by: -jack- | September 20, 2009 10:58 PM | Report abuse

Tina Fey: Ungracious 'close one' jab and a Jay Leno dig. Way to stay classy.

Posted by: yellojkt | September 20, 2009 10:58 PM | Report abuse

Tina Fey is my hero. And my daughter's hero, too. Funny, smart, talented and gorgeous. And half Greek, too. Maybe she is my daughter?

Posted by: -TBG- | September 20, 2009 10:58 PM | Report abuse

jack,
I <3 u. And The Clash.

Posted by: yellojkt | September 20, 2009 11:01 PM | Report abuse

Sig Weave -- column dress with subtle of shoulder dress in regal crimson....nice and the upper story works...flattering dresses are a kind of specific architecture...

Posted by: CollegeQuaParkian1 | September 20, 2009 11:02 PM | Report abuse

SCC: 'nail biter'

How much is HBO kicking itself for passing on Mad Men?

Posted by: yellojkt | September 20, 2009 11:04 PM | Report abuse

Christine Hendricks from MadMen hidden in the crowd...but she has a real figure. See the show for her amazing clothes if for nothing else.

Posted by: CollegeQuaParkian1 | September 20, 2009 11:04 PM | Report abuse

Ha! Yello! I guess she's not your hero. Sorry.

:-)

Posted by: -TBG- | September 20, 2009 11:06 PM | Report abuse

She *is* my hero. It's just that those comments crossed the line from sharp to uncalled for. A line I have a hard time recognizing as well.

Posted by: yellojkt | September 20, 2009 11:14 PM | Report abuse

OTOH, The Leno remark is very apt. NBC is committing ritualistic suicide right in front of us and taking down scripted television with it.

Posted by: yellojkt | September 20, 2009 11:15 PM | Report abuse

(The robbers, one armed with a gun, bound him with duct tape and held his wife at gunpoint. They ransacked the house and made off with jewelry and a wallet, police said. After they left, McClure broke free, grabbed his gun, got into his dark green van and guessed the thieves would head toward nearby Ginger Lane, his son said. He ended up in a confrontation and killed Marcus Fluker, one of the teens.)
http://www.newsobserver.com/news/story/1696281.html

One of Charlotte's best writers muses on that:
http://www.charlotteobserver.com/tommytomlinson/story/958403.html

Posted by: Jumper1 | September 20, 2009 11:19 PM | Report abuse

Saw The Clash at CBGB in 1982. Good times.

Posted by: Yoki | September 20, 2009 11:20 PM | Report abuse

I only made it through the first few minutes of the first Leno show, no interest in going back - anyone else think it as awful as I thought. Of course I have never enjoyed Leno or Conan.

Posted by: dmd3 | September 20, 2009 11:20 PM | Report abuse

I agree, dmd. It was painful.

Posted by: -TBG- | September 20, 2009 11:30 PM | Report abuse

I so wish my old (well, not at all old, gorgeous lovely) friend (but of long standing) Joanne was on the Boodle, 'cause then I could share our wee facebook talk about Jay Leno.

Sufficient unto the day is that I and she both think he is terribly bland and not at all funny. Middle-of-the-road and inoffensive doesn't work in these days of hard urban irony. Unless one is non-urban, which I acknowledge.

Posted by: Yoki | September 20, 2009 11:49 PM | Report abuse

Egypt swindled itself in slaying all its pigs...

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/09/20/world/africa/20cairo.html?pagewanted=1&em

Posted by: Wilbrod_Gnome | September 20, 2009 11:53 PM | Report abuse

Tonight's game to open up Dallas's new stadium was pretty good,back and forth lead changes with the last team with the ball winning.I am glad it was the Giants.

Today's game Ravens/Chargers was down to the wire with the Ravens holding onto the win after Ray Lewis stopped the running back on 4th and 2.

Lotsa good games today,I was glad to see the Steelers lose and the Skins win,although beating St Louis by 2 wasn't what I had envisioned.

I hope everyone did well in their pools this week.

Posted by: greenwithenvy | September 21, 2009 12:05 AM | Report abuse

Soccer?

Posted by: Yoki | September 21, 2009 2:16 AM | Report abuse

I'm feeling pretty good. Have wished all well, and will go.

Posted by: Yoki | September 21, 2009 2:35 AM | Report abuse

FoutBall Yoki,but that did make me laugh.....Thanks

Posted by: greenwithenvy | September 21, 2009 2:42 AM | Report abuse

Sock 'er? I hardly know 'er!

Posted by: yellojkt | September 21, 2009 5:44 AM | Report abuse

Oh darn, the Dawn Patrol tower reports delays on the route into D.C.

Good thing we're heading to VT instead! *hehehehehe*

Sorry I missed all the Emblogging, but one must pack at some point, no?

And speaking of packing, we're taking the laptop, so I'll be around this week when you least expect it. At least I will if NukeSpouse can put up with Airport Boy for a little while.

*asking-the-pilot-to-make-a-few-passes-over-Cassandra's-place-'cuz-I'm-still-worried Grover waves* :-)

Posted by: Scottynuke | September 21, 2009 6:58 AM | Report abuse

Morning all, and happy Monday. I enjoyed CqP's commentary on the clothes, now I'll have to find a photo gallery to check the gowns out. Thanks, CqP!

Jumper, I like Tommy Tomlinson too. And I absolutely see his point in that column. A neighbor whose home was broken into recently told me last week that the perp was identified. He was in jail for other crimes and had been wearing a GPS ankle bracelet when he broke in. I wish there were easy solutions to these issues.

Onward, into the day! Scotty, you have a safe and fun trip. Everyone else, have a good beginning to the week!

Posted by: slyness | September 21, 2009 7:06 AM | Report abuse

Good Morning Everyone! I watched a bit of the Emmy Awards last night and enjoyed most of what I saw, even though I only have a passing familiarity with the shows.

I thought NPH did a great job, but then I've been a big fan since his Doogie Howser days. The guy just radiates good-natured irony.

As always, I stand in awe of CP's commentary. I have a theory that some of the women deliberately make poor fashion choices (like those pneumatic tops) just to get noticed.

Hope everyone has a great Monday.

Posted by: RD_Padouk | September 21, 2009 8:04 AM | Report abuse

We forgot about the Emmys last night, and we forgot to set the Tivo for it. Were there any Dr. Horrible references? Any?

Posted by: ScienceTim | September 21, 2009 8:36 AM | Report abuse

Oh yes, SciTim. The Dr and The Hammer interrupted the show for a few moments. Which was a treat for those of us who are quite fond of the Evil League of Evil. For others perhaps not so much.

Posted by: RD_Padouk | September 21, 2009 8:46 AM | Report abuse

Oh my *Captain* Hammer of course. Must get these superhero names right lest I incite their awful wrath.

Which I imagine is pretty awful.

Posted by: RD_Padouk | September 21, 2009 8:48 AM | Report abuse

Tom Shales is hosting a chat at noon today about the Emmys. I was watching the football game, but I enjoyed reading everyone's comments.

Posted by: -pj- | September 21, 2009 9:51 AM | Report abuse

And Lisa de Moraes hosted one last night. Here's the link to the transcript:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/discussion/2009/09/08/DI2009090802113.html

Posted by: -pj- | September 21, 2009 9:52 AM | Report abuse

Yello, thanks for the additional info on that sculpture. It helps. I felt bad being prissy.

I was out yesterday evening so missed the Emmys, but I've enjoyed the commentary here along with various red carpet photos. My vote for the most striking dress goes to Olivia Wilde (13). Or maybe that should be most striking look. She's a beauty. I'm a bit conflicted about Jessica Lange. I'm a big fan of maturing gracefully, rather than plastic-ly, but from the photos I saw, it seemed that the sun had done some damage to her fair skin over the years, and I feel that she would have looked better with sleeves. Glenn Close pulled off the grown-up elegant look better, in my view. But now I feel catty and ageist for saying that older women should cover up. As I said, I'm conflicted.

Posted by: -bia- | September 21, 2009 10:18 AM | Report abuse

Good style is a matter of maximizing what you've got and downplaying what doesn't look as good.

I looked at some pictures, and I think the dress's hue may have more to do with it than her arms per se, some angles she looked great, others she didn't-- but she does have heavy tanning and sun damage, as you said.

The dress played that tan up too much for her complexion; the color looked a little faded in comparsion. I'd have liked to see her complexion against a richer, brighter color, maybe more than one tone.

Posted by: Wilbrod_Gnome | September 21, 2009 10:28 AM | Report abuse

Dan Brown learned the ropes in the trenches.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/books/booknews/6194031/The-Lost-Symbol-and-The-Da-Vinci-Code-author-Dan-Browns-20-worst-sentences.html

Posted by: Jumper1 | September 21, 2009 10:42 AM | Report abuse

See, I would have said that good style is a matter of expressing oneself authentically; aligning the inner and outer person.

Posted by: Yoki | September 21, 2009 10:51 AM | Report abuse

New Kit!

Posted by: seasea1 | September 21, 2009 10:54 AM | Report abuse

I believe that some people have joined the new kit and didn't alert anyone here, but I could be wrong...

Posted by: rickoshea1 | September 21, 2009 11:14 AM | Report abuse

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