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Can't anyone here play this game?

Why is everyone such a screwup lately?

I was thinking this while watching Tiger shoot a four-over-par 75 at the U.S. Open. But that was nothing compared to the 54-hole leader, Dustin Johnson, who started with a three-shot lead and promptly went on some kind of safari, some jaunt through the wilds of coastal California, an adventure that the English might refer to as a ramble. There's Dustin in the ravine.... There's Dustin on the beach.... There's Dustin trying to hit his ball from the mouth of a barking sea lion... There's Dustin being devoured by a shark.... I mean, it was just painful to watch.

But hey, that's just the national championship of golf -- it ain't something big like the World Cup, where England, Germany, Italy and France have been so incompetent that they really should think about giving up soccer altogether.The French team refused to practice Sunday -- the whole squad having a massive hissy fit over the expulsion of a teammate who yelled at the coach.

But now let's get down to business, seriously, literally. We've already seen that the financial geniuses of Wall Street couldn't tell that their CDOs were toxic, and that the housing market really could collapse everywhere at once. Total incompetence, we all pay: the global economy crashes.

But at least there are people out there who still know what they're doing, like the petroleum engineers. Except that they apparently tried to chew gum and drill at the same time, and that didn't go well. BP, let us recall, was the fourth largest company in the world, hugely profitable, and it was supposed to be good at drilling oil wells. The dangers of wells are well known, and that's why they have multiple barriers to gas flow and, as a final precaution, blowout preventers. But we know how that turned out. The investigations are showing multiple missteps, a rush to drill, cheaper methods that put cost over safety, all kinds of warning signs ignored, the company man saying "this is the way we're going to do it" even when the underlings were flashing the stop sign, and so on.

Government oversight: feeble, pathetic, incompetent.

Polls show very large majorities disapproving of both the BP response to the disaster and the government response, raising the question of whether the public thinks anyone out there with a credential can do anything right.

Is there an incompetence epidemic? I dunno, but it's a bad time for the credentialed set, for the elites, starting with the Elite in Chief, President Obama, the icon of the meritocracy. The pundits hated his presidential address last week. A friend said to me the other night: Good thing Steve Chu has a Nobel Prize, as Obama reminded us. That Nobel has made all the difference! Imagine if Chu only a doctorate! Then we'd be in a fix.

No, what we need someone who knows how to work a wrench. Kick a ball. Putt worth a dang.

By Joel Achenbach  |  June 21, 2010; 9:24 AM ET
 
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Speaking of incompetency, here is the shorter version of me singing 'Take It Easy' in Winslow, Arizona for those of you not willing to risk the full three minute version of the song:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HGnCvUbozNA

Posted by: yellojkt | June 21, 2010 10:37 AM | Report abuse

Well, that about covers it, Mr. A.

Oh, except that Federer is down two sets to one and service break in the fourth set.

And that the Nats got swept by the White Sox.

And that life is pretty amazing if you know where to look.

Posted by: MsJS | June 21, 2010 10:39 AM | Report abuse

Let's look through the Kepler telescope. Focus like a . . . . .

Posted by: talitha1 | June 21, 2010 10:46 AM | Report abuse

yello, that's not incompetency. That's plain ol' fun. I'm frenvious.

Posted by: MsJS | June 21, 2010 10:55 AM | Report abuse

*snort*

Posted by: -TBG- | June 21, 2010 10:55 AM | Report abuse

Gotta love today's Borowitz Report:

"JUNE 21, 2010

Hawking: Aliens ‘No Longer Interested’ in Invading Earth

Planet Already ‘Pre-destroyed,’ Scientist Says

"LONDON (The Borowitz Report) – Reversing his recent position on the dangers of an extraterrestrial invasion, eminent theoretical physicist Stephen Hawking said today that the planet is in no such peril anymore because aliens are “no longer interested” in invading Earth.

“Assuming that aliens have been monitoring Earth for the past month in preparation for an invasion, they’ve probably figured out it’s no longer worth the trip,” Dr. Hawking said.

Speaking at a conference of the International Society of Eminent Theoretical Physicists, Dr. Hawking added, “Most extraterrestrials would want to come to Earth to destroy it, and let’s face it, this planet has been pretty much pre-destroyed.”

Even if aliens planned to travel to Earth to warn humans against destroying their own planet, Dr. Hawking said, “If they showed up now and took a look around they’d be like, ‘Oops, too late.’”

The physicist said that the rocket fuel aliens would have to expend to launch an Earth invasion was significant, “and you don’t spend that kind of money to invade a s---hole.”

In recognition of his role in deterring an alien invasion, Queen Elizabeth II of England today knighted Tony Hayward, the CEO of oil giant BP.

In remarks to reporters after the knighting ceremony at Buckingham Palace, Sir Tony said he would be working tirelessly this week to study the impact of the Gulf oil spill on the beaches of the South of France.

Posted by: curmudgeon6 | June 21, 2010 10:59 AM | Report abuse

Another part of the dark side of capitalism. Yes, the profit motive is a great engine of progress, but when the profit motive begins to trump competence and common sense, then you get Bhopal and the Gulf oil spill.

Posted by: ebtnut | June 21, 2010 11:07 AM | Report abuse

Tediously pedantic copy editor note:

"Incompetency" with a "y" on the end is reserved for questions regarding sanity, and/or fitness for trial, being committed to an institution, etc. Just normal, everyday screwing up due to a variety of factors including innate stupidity, arrogance, lack of education/training, numerous biblical-quality deadly sins (greed, avarice, listening to Rush Limbaugh), etc., is just plain old "incompetence" without the "y" on the end.

You may now return to your boring, humdrum lives knowing you are all better people, and now better equipped to be role models for the younger generation, some of whom may need incompetency hearings from time to time.

Posted by: curmudgeon6 | June 21, 2010 11:10 AM | Report abuse

Pebble Beach is by far the “Golf Course from Hell”. This was a very frustrating tournament to watch. No matter how hard the players tried they could not do right in such an erratic and unforgiving golf course. Without taking from the winner, Gramme McDowell, all the other players were winners in my eyes for going through such a stressful and frustrating tournament! Congratulations to all!!!

Posted by: Carmenlight | June 21, 2010 11:10 AM | Report abuse

For a while there, I wondered if Tony Hayward was stuck in some sort of Groundhog Day scenario, except as Kenny Powers with a yellow Hot Rod Lincoln. I guess it's a much bigger problem than I had considered.

Previous kit...my bad.

Have a happy day all.

Posted by: LostInThought | June 21, 2010 11:13 AM | Report abuse

Front page alert.

Posted by: curmudgeon6 | June 21, 2010 11:16 AM | Report abuse

I don't think incompetency is a word, since incompetence will do nicely

Posted by: Yoki | June 21, 2010 11:18 AM | Report abuse

yello, what was the bet that you lost that resulted in that... that... words fail.

Posted by: kguy1 | June 21, 2010 11:21 AM | Report abuse

Its only incompetence if your team loses money.

You can look like you're losing, but win a bundle.

Consider TARP. Legislation written by the US Secretary of the Treasury that requires that no accounting be made of disbursements of 750 Billion dollars.

Incompetence?

I think not.

Posted by: inono | June 21, 2010 11:22 AM | Report abuse

I was looking at an OECD Working Paper titled "Environmental Working Papers No. 1: Ranking port cities with high exposure and vulnerability to climate extremes: exposure estimates". The main idea was to check an amazing claim that parts of Tokyo had subsided by 5 meters during the 20th century. Yup. No wonder there's heavy-duty dikes along Sumida River.

But what stuck out was that (obviously) the flood protection of New Orleans had been almost worthless, and New York's defenses aren't any better, while Tokyo, Amsterdam, Shanghai are protected against a one in a thousand year flood.

Posted by: DaveoftheCoonties | June 21, 2010 11:22 AM | Report abuse

You know how them lawyers is, Yoki.

Posted by: curmudgeon6 | June 21, 2010 11:25 AM | Report abuse

Is there an incompetence epidemic? Absolutely!!!!! You get what you deserve.

Posted by: hillkeith | June 21, 2010 11:25 AM | Report abuse

kguy,
No bet. That video is the achievement of a life-long dream. Filming it nearly cost me my marriage. My wife has a much lower threshold of public humiliation than I do, even by proxy.

Posted by: yellojkt | June 21, 2010 11:26 AM | Report abuse

Sorry for my creative spelling. Same rule for 'incontinency'?

Posted by: yellojkt | June 21, 2010 11:31 AM | Report abuse

My almost last post on the last kit was right on this kit.

So the question is, do the incompetents mentioned in the kit know how incompetent they are?

Posted by: -dbG- | June 21, 2010 11:38 AM | Report abuse

That's OK yello... Joel used the same word. I'm going to assume Mudge was talking to him.

I was itching to make the same point, but I had just finished reading this...

http://www.subversivecopyeditor.com/blog/2010/06/competent-careful-meticulous-huh.html

Posted by: -TBG- | June 21, 2010 11:45 AM | Report abuse

The Helvetic soccer team makes history: 557 minutes (that is almost 6.2 games) without giving up a goal. They lose 0-1 to Chile though and they have been playing one guy short for a long while. The Swiss guy was sent off following what I thought was very bad acting by the Chilean guy. It was enough to convince the referee. The Chileans also leads in yellow cards, 5-3.

Posted by: shrieking_denizen | June 21, 2010 11:45 AM | Report abuse

Yeah, except Joel can fix his typos on the fly leaving me high and dry.

Posted by: yellojkt | June 21, 2010 11:52 AM | Report abuse

That's how I hope to spend my declining, years, yello.

Posted by: curmudgeon6 | June 21, 2010 11:59 AM | Report abuse

"Incompetency" serves as its own definition. Is there a word for words like that?

Posted by: Jumper1 | June 21, 2010 12:01 PM | Report abuse

Speaking of people working outside their zone of competence, the Barney and Clyde chat should have already started, but it seems to be running late.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/discussion/2010/06/18/DI2010061802447.html

Posted by: yellojkt | June 21, 2010 12:03 PM | Report abuse

I tend to think that the rush from regulation that Reagan started made a lot of things worse. Of course incompetent regulators don't help, but they have umpires and referees in games to keep things in order, and every industry needs something to keep them in check.

Then there needs to be good education for all of these engineers, teachers, whatever.. and we have blown education in this country. The rush to charter schools was a big blow. Why spend money on two school systems? It makes no sense to put money into an alternative that many people cannot even access.

This country is broken in terms of education and so many other areas that it is frightening to think about the future our kids face.

Posted by: tojo45 | June 21, 2010 12:04 PM | Report abuse

It takes Gene all the way to the third paragraph to compare himself to Charles Dickens.

Posted by: yellojkt | June 21, 2010 12:04 PM | Report abuse

Anyone else have a post swallowed? I won't be offended if my offer of gazpacho and iced tea at noon never appears, but gee whiz!

Posted by: talitha1 | June 21, 2010 12:06 PM | Report abuse

Federer made it through his first round match - whew. Almost lost the 4th set, then won the 5th 6-0. I, of course, saw none of it.

Posted by: seasea1 | June 21, 2010 12:22 PM | Report abuse

You think the South Koreans are hoping the North Koreans fight like they play futbol?

Gotta feel for the team of the Dear Leader, but them is the rules. Portugal could be tied with the Ivory Coasters and goals scored is one of the breakers.

Posted by: steveboyington | June 21, 2010 12:26 PM | Report abuse

I would point out to Carmenlight that five players shot under 70 on Sunday, so the course wasn't completely unplayable.

Posted by: bobsewell | June 21, 2010 12:27 PM | Report abuse

It also seems like it's all about the latitude, baby. Uruguay, Chile, Argentina all loving the South African home field advantage.

Posted by: steveboyington | June 21, 2010 12:28 PM | Report abuse

Howdy y'all. Mudge is correct in noting that "incompetency" is a highly technical term which I hope most of you will never need to encounter substantively in your daily lives.

Yellojkt, your video is great. I'm glad your marriage survived it. It is refreshing to see someone fulfill a life-long dream, and I'm glad technology has allowed you to share.

Posted by: Ivansmom | June 21, 2010 12:34 PM | Report abuse

Weingartens' chat seems to be over. He used seven of the twelve questions I submitted. Big Stan Lee Memorial NoPrize to any boodler that can spot them all. And I thought some of the other questions sounded a little familiar. Anyone willing to 'fess up?

Posted by: yellojkt | June 21, 2010 12:55 PM | Report abuse

Illustrating the point of the kit, writer confuses incompetence with incompetency. Thankfully there are copy editors in the mix around here...Or do I mean, "There are, thankfully, copy editors in the mix around here.."

Posted by: joelache | June 21, 2010 12:57 PM | Report abuse

Obama does not know the difference between credentials and competence. He chooses people like himself. People with academic experience or credentials. The idea of choosing an experienced engineer to manage the oil debacle is beyond him. I doubt he even knows any engineers let alone what they do. His basic MO is to pick up his copy of the Harvard Law school directory and ask for help. He is clueless and utterly unqualified to be president of the US. He may learn but he's going to make a lot of mistakes in the process. Too bad so many people are depending on him. Democrats will and should pay for getting him elected and passing his damaging programs. Obama should be voted out in 2012. The Oval Office is not for on the job training.

Posted by: maxtel1910 | June 21, 2010 1:00 PM | Report abuse

Either is correct, JA.

yello, don't you think submitting 12 questions is a bit, well, heavy-handed? Excessive? [Read: compulsive and possibly psychotic.]

Posted by: curmudgeon6 | June 21, 2010 1:01 PM | Report abuse

"...is not for on the job training," says a person who voted for Reagan, Bush Jr., and Sarah Palin for VP.

Incidentally, in the previous administration, there were TWO oil bidness guys running the country. How'd that work out for ya, Maxtel?

Posted by: curmudgeon6 | June 21, 2010 1:05 PM | Report abuse

Mudge, in yello's defense, it sounds as if had he not submitted twelve questions the chat would have been a lot shorter.

Engineers attend and graduate from Harvard Law School too, y'know. And after they become lawyers they still remember how to be engineers. Just sayin'.

Posted by: Ivansmom | June 21, 2010 1:07 PM | Report abuse

BP cut corners and got caught. As for the MMS, I'm sure the ground pounding inspectors were just following orders, orders that have been politically compromised for years (=How it's done: political orders emanate from the WH to the Director. The latter sets policies and performance standards. Supervision don't get their bonuses unless those political performance standards and policies are are met. And, that is how the field personnel are directed to stay clear of politically sensitive areas of enforcement). So, incompetence is not the correct word. What is going on with MMS is really a form of corruption. It is simply corrected by strong, uncorrupted leadership and strict enforcement of all laws and regulations to ALL clients.

Posted by: dozas | June 21, 2010 1:08 PM | Report abuse

I once again categorically deny Gene Weingarten's claim that I am unhealthily obsessed with him.

http://livebythefoma.blogspot.com/2009/06/weingarten-twit.html

Posted by: yellojkt | June 21, 2010 1:08 PM | Report abuse

And of course, it's too bad BP didn't have any experienced engineers running its driling operations. Or its company. Or its clean-up efforts. Because, yanno, experienced engineers always get it right the first time.

Posted by: curmudgeon6 | June 21, 2010 1:09 PM | Report abuse

Neither, Joel. You should eschew cliches and simply write what you mean, which is "I so owe copy editors my life."

Posted by: Wilbrod_Gnome | June 21, 2010 1:09 PM | Report abuse

It's the return of Murphy. Somewhere, in America's can-do, pre-visualization culture, Murphy and his law got lost. The country's leadership, political and economic, forgot that what can go wrong, will go wrong. After all, that's negative thinking and winners don't do that. At least they don't right up to that moment when they fall flat on their faces.

Posted by: karmamutt | June 21, 2010 1:18 PM | Report abuse

I bought 'The Black Swan' on sale at BigBoxOfBooks this weekend. Presumably it has some lessons BP management should have heeded.

Posted by: yellojkt | June 21, 2010 1:20 PM | Report abuse

From the previous kit, OK not that close a comparison, but any excuse to post this is good.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-3lKbMBab18

Posted by: dmd3 | June 21, 2010 1:24 PM | Report abuse

Gene didn't even entertain my question.
My competence is therefore compromised?
Not on yer life!

Posted by: talitha1 | June 21, 2010 1:25 PM | Report abuse

"The black swan" isn't about australian swans, but of oil-drenched swans?

Looking it up... hm, I see. The meme doesn't work for me. Color is just an accidental property.

"Carnivorous cows" would have been more original and true, too.

Posted by: Wilbrod_Gnome | June 21, 2010 1:30 PM | Report abuse

yello, if you don't like Weingarten in general, and if you don't like his cartoon strip in particular, why don't you just leave the poor guy alone? He needs a freon-crazed stalker like Tiger needs a dating service.

Posted by: curmudgeon6 | June 21, 2010 1:33 PM | Report abuse

talitha,
My apologies for hogging the chat. I do go on a tear sometimes. Did Gene at least address the topic some other way? And for the record, I was not any of the chatters gushing over the hawtness of Dan even though he does have a more mature Daniel Radcliffe vibe going for him.

Posted by: yellojkt | June 21, 2010 1:36 PM | Report abuse

...incompetency is a highly technical term which I hope most of you will never need to encounter substantively in your daily lives...unless you are gettin' paid substantially for the encounter.

Posted by: shrink2 | June 21, 2010 1:39 PM | Report abuse

TGB - ya made me chuckle, lady.

yello, if I were at a bar with Gene, I would tell him that I think his self-comaprison with Dickens is about 57% correct. And keep my eyes on his hands to see which Pulitzer he was going to hit me with.

Didn't read his bit, though, so I might just be teasing him over something silly.

On another note entirely, it is interesting to me to see how the world may be changing -- it used to be that people were noted and receive notoriety and fame for their achievements, that the world was about accomplishment and progress. Now it seems to be focused on failure and mistakes, glorifying and accentuating the negative. Apologies instead of bold leadership, misdirection instead of enlightenment, assignment of blame rather than assumption of responsibility, humiliation of the mighty instead of harnessing resources for good.

Out: Neil Armstrong - In: Rod Blagoyovich (sp).

Forunately, I seem to be well-adjusted to this Brave New World, as my Botchability is pretty good. To paraphrase a friend, I'm not so much a role model as a warning and an example to others of What Not to Do.

LiT, ya made me snort with those references; thanks. Hadn't thought about Powers and that rocket-powered inContinental in a long long time. Can't even light that fuse without a passport these days.

bc

Posted by: -bc- | June 21, 2010 1:44 PM | Report abuse

yello, I gotta agree with Mudge.

Since Gene Weingarten doesn't appear to share your interest in keeping him honest, the only person you're doing all this for is you. And it's not serving you very much, if at all.

Posted by: MsJS | June 21, 2010 1:48 PM | Report abuse

To extend bc's point, if you were to pick which event would be prominent in the Washington Post (meaning I found it without trying), would you guess the G20 Summit in Toronto or the MMVA.

Enormous sigh,

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/gallery/2010/06/21/GA2010062102038.html

Posted by: dmd3 | June 21, 2010 1:58 PM | Report abuse

I found this article in the NYT Sunday magazine about old love and death:
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/06/20/magazine/20pacemaker-t.html?ref=magazine

Posted by: DNA_Girl | June 21, 2010 2:01 PM | Report abuse

mudge,
Why do you constantly harangue the headline writers at WaPo? Why does the Joker keep tormenting Batman? Why do any of us do anything? I do things (like singing poorly in public and posting the results on YouTube) because they amuse ME.

My relationship with Weingarten is complicated and well documented in the boodle annals. He is a very talented writer with a faux-narcissistic juvenile streak. I find the dichotomy fascinating.

The entire history of Barney and Clyde is a intriguing mixture of hubris, naivete, and the cashing in on his reputation for a father-son bonding opportunity. I honestly would like the cartoon to succeed, especially for Dan's sake who came off very funny in the chat.

But the schadenfreude aspects of watching the self-appointed arbiter of comics humor learn first hand that the job is not as easy as he thinks is irresistible.

Posted by: yellojkt | June 21, 2010 2:12 PM | Report abuse

Can one of our oil experts explain why the Deepwater Horizon relief well has to go to such a great depth before joining the target well? If the cap were a mile under the seabed, it would be there already.

LTL

Posted by: Jim19 | June 21, 2010 2:14 PM | Report abuse

Because if you don't go to the very bottom, the well will blow the mud that you are going to pump in there up and out before it establishes a weighty column of pressure.

Posted by: Jumper1 | June 21, 2010 2:28 PM | Report abuse

Herbert Hoover was an engineer.

Posted by: Jumper1 | June 21, 2010 2:32 PM | Report abuse

Jeez, DNA_Girl, that's a hard piece to read. I had to force myself through page 2 (but it was worth it for the Chekhov quote and to get to page 3. Made it nearly to the end of page 4, got 3 more to go, but that's about all I can take in one sitting. But a great, great piece. Thanks for the link.

Posted by: curmudgeon6 | June 21, 2010 2:32 PM | Report abuse

There is a very funny song at the very end of the latest Paul and Storm podcast that addresses Joel's topic in general and bc's 1:44 in particular. The song's title is “Incompetent’s Lament” and if I were more competent I could tell you how to listen to it without forwarding through the entire podcast.

http://www.paulandstorm.com/archives/show-087-bobs-big-boy-makes-a-mudpie/

Posted by: yellojkt | June 21, 2010 2:37 PM | Report abuse

DNA_Girl, thank you for the link to that piece. Among other things, I learned that I don't have a good understanding of end of life legal issues and I need to remedy that. A very well written and touching story, too bad it wasn't written and picked up by the MSM when all that garbage about 'death panels' was going around.

Posted by: badsneakers | June 21, 2010 2:40 PM | Report abuse

Jimmy Carter claims to be one.

Posted by: yellojkt | June 21, 2010 2:41 PM | Report abuse

But they don't amuse the rest of us, yello. That's why. And you don't have a relationship with Weingarten. You only have a one-way, one-sided relationship which he is quite possibly not even aware of.

I abuse the WaPo headline writers without knowing their names, where they live, who they are, what their personalities are, and so on. I don't have any narcissistic craving to get their attention; I couldn't care less if they know who I am, and I don't wish to form any sort of personal relationship with them. It doesn't amuse me to criticize them; it pains me to read their stuff. And yes, I have considered trying to not read them at all, but I don't have a lot of choice; it is *my* local paper, and it wouldn't do me any good to switch to the Des Moines Register, the NYT, the LA Times, or whatever. So it's the Post or nothing. Whereas you have a choice of which humorist to read and which to ignore.

Yes, I post a lot of stuff with the intent of amusing other people (how sucessfully is irrelevant). I post virtually nothing to amuse only myself, as you seem to do. I amuse myself in other ways in private. You and I are not co-equal in any way that I can see. Please practice your self-amuse elsewhere. I do.

Posted by: curmudgeon6 | June 21, 2010 2:44 PM | Report abuse

I'm sorry if someone pointed to this article before but it is a fascinating read. Everything you always wanted to know about Blow Out Preventer but were afraid to ask. As a former pipeline radiographer I find the idea of gamma-ray radiography at 5000ft water dept fascinating. No need to post the warning signs on that shoot...

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/06/21/us/21blowout.html?pagewanted=1&hp

Posted by: shrieking_denizen | June 21, 2010 2:45 PM | Report abuse

Spain leading Honduras 1-0 about 20 minutes in.

Posted by: Scottynuke | June 21, 2010 2:49 PM | Report abuse

Thanks, DNA_Girl. I'd read that a few days ago, it's riveting. I realized I needed to have a discussion with my lawyer and my proxy.

In the last few weeks of my aunt's life, her assisted living facility insisted on taking her to the emergency room against her wishes, our wishes and her legal documents. After the third time, they unofficially suggested we bring in hospice for her care because hospice wouldn't take her there.

Mudged from the last kit, since we're talking about competency, there's:
http://opinionator.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/06/20/the-anosognosics-dilemma-1/?src=me&ref=general

Posted by: -dbG- | June 21, 2010 2:50 PM | Report abuse

I didn't think it would take everyone *that* long to read the anosognosics article, but I'm not taking credit for killing the Boodle this time.

Pot, meet kettle. Kettle, meet pot.

Posted by: -dbG- | June 21, 2010 3:38 PM | Report abuse

Actually, yellojkt does amuse some of the rest of us, me at least. GeneW's a big boy, with a very thick skin, as he said today in his chat. I didn't think any of the questions were disrespectful or in any stalkerish. And the chat moderator picked them, after all.

We all have our soapboxes and hot buttons and obsessions. One of yello's is the comics.

Posted by: seasea1 | June 21, 2010 3:47 PM | Report abuse

I totally agree, seasea.

//We all have our soapboxes and hot buttons and obsessions. //
Thank you for writing it more eloquently than I did.

Posted by: -dbG- | June 21, 2010 3:53 PM | Report abuse

It's now David Villa 2, Honduras 0. Villa just missed a penalty for a hat trick. Incompetent at penalties? Too easy for him?

Posted by: shrieking_denizen | June 21, 2010 3:53 PM | Report abuse

Who run Bartontown?

No answer.

WHO RUN BARTONTOWN?!?

The oil industry runs Bartontown.

Campaign contribution embargo lifted.

Posted by: steveboyington | June 21, 2010 3:56 PM | Report abuse

yello, you amuse *me,* and I'm glad you're here. I believe I get the meta-comedy -- using new tools and methods to do something I believe to be quite old.

And Mudge -- ya are what ya are, man.

At this moment, I have a very strong urge to reread '"Repent, Harlequin!" Said the Ticktockman.'

bc

Posted by: -bc- | June 21, 2010 3:58 PM | Report abuse

yello, not to worry. I was on another wavelength during the Gene/Dan chat and have since thrown copious salt over my shoulder. I've been mad at Gene since he became not-Dave. 8-]

What is it that makes sane dogs and non-Englishwomen go out in the noonday sun? It may take me the rest of the day to recover.

Posted by: talitha1 | June 21, 2010 4:04 PM | Report abuse

-dbG-

I peeked back over the line. If you think your job is tedious, I'll bet I'm the only one here for whom anosognosia is used in common parlance around the office; it is an ordinary technical term, kinda like, drilling mud. Just this morning on a conference call, I said, "...and of course she has anosognosia, so talking to her about treatment won't make any sense to her, wouldn't matter what language we were using..."

To get back on kit, I've often wondered about the limits of our competence, as a species and how and when we would know we are there. Are we there yet? Is this what it looks like when we expect more from ourselves and each other than we are wired to deliver?

Posted by: shrink2 | June 21, 2010 4:06 PM | Report abuse

If only just once this were true. One wonders constantly if the performers of the mendacious minuet known as politics are as weary of it as we are.

http://www.theonion.com/articles/elena-kagan-asked-straight-up-you-got-what-it-take,17636/

Posted by: kguy1 | June 21, 2010 4:14 PM | Report abuse

Shrink, I think the garden-variety form of anosognosia is called "denial." Been there, rowed that river.
Doesn't help if you've been raised with the stiff upper lip and people who can't find what's wrong instead claim you have nothing wrong. What's that? Socially imposed denial?
I think we have hit our competence limits long ago, and we're just trying to guess our way out to a less blatant mess. Oh, and bully others into being perfect, too.

Posted by: Wilbrod_Gnome | June 21, 2010 4:22 PM | Report abuse

Very interesting article, DNA_Girl, thanks for linking. I decided long ago that some things in life are worse than death and I do not intend to endure them. I have a living will and my children are well aware of my desires.

Hospice is such a wonderful concept. My mother-in-law and my half-brother both were in hospice care and died peacefully at home. It's truly the best way to die.

Posted by: slyness | June 21, 2010 4:31 PM | Report abuse

shrink2, true, and that's really cool. We tend to speak more about concatenated delimeters, virtual SANs, metadata. My word of the summer is co-location.

I should have put a :) after the tedious comment--for anyone left-of-center-brained, my job is interesting. There's always a puzzle to be solved, much of my time is spent thinking and I like keeping systems running.

I hit the limits of my competence every day at work. I suspect we've hit the limits of our competence as a species now--Wall Street, BP, the general state of the planet.


Posted by: -dbG- | June 21, 2010 4:31 PM | Report abuse

Technically speaking, anosognosia is a neurological state, an inability to know, where denial is considered a defensive maneuver, a method through which the mind chooses to ignore the existence of that which is knowable. We tend to hold the latter against people, but not the former.

I hope it isn't true that we have long since crossed into cultural territory where we are mistaking people operating well past the neurological limits of their capacity for incompetence or some character flaw.

Posted by: shrink2 | June 21, 2010 4:38 PM | Report abuse

dnagirl-thanks beyond measure for pointing out the NYT magazine article.

Posted by: frostbitten1 | June 21, 2010 4:43 PM | Report abuse

Interesting. I think you're using *neurological limits* in a way that exceeds my understanding. What's your definition of neuorological limits?

Posted by: -dbG- | June 21, 2010 4:44 PM | Report abuse

I really enjoyed this kit because, like most things Joel writes, it works on a lot of levels.

One of the trickiest things about the notion of incompetence is that it assumes a certain degree on omnipotence. Accusations of incompetence imply that success is a simple matter of skill coupled with effort.

Part of the reason we do this is that the alternative is scary. The notion that there are situations in which even the most competent person exerting herculean effort will still fail can be terrifying. (Especially when the person involved is, say, the President of the United States.)

We hate the idea that there is randomness in the world, even though Ecclesiastes 9:11 explained it pretty well quite some time ago.

Now, part of the problem is that people are often all too willing to deny the importance of chance when things go their way. I mean, when was the last time you heard a a politician state that the only reason the economy improved under his watch was because the Japanese devalued the Yen?

All of which just means that maybe the sucky hitting of the Nats isn't really about incompetence. Maybe it just shows that even the most talented hitters cannot invariably impose their will on the baseball. Perhaps there are other mysterious uncontrollable variables that swamp all else.

I'm thinking, like, maybe, the value of the Yen.

Posted by: RD_Padouk | June 21, 2010 4:45 PM | Report abuse

I especially enjoyed that Weingarten chat because Dan has a quirky sense of humor that complements, but doesn't mimic, Gene's.

And I thought they answered all the questions, even the Helen Thompson ones, with honesty and class.

Posted by: RD_Padouk | June 21, 2010 4:52 PM | Report abuse

I especially enjoyed that Weingarten chat because Dan has a quirky sense of humor that complements, but doesn't mimic, Gene's.

And I thought they answered all the questions, even the Helen Thomas ones, with honesty and class.

Posted by: RD_Padouk | June 21, 2010 4:53 PM | Report abuse

Examples, the cited article gives examples of people with brain injuries, who used to be able to appreciate perceptions coming in from one side or another of their visual fields as real, then as a result of injury, they lose that capacity. Young children are considered neurologically incapable of understanding contracts, the principles of informed consent, delayed gratification and so on.

Out minds can appreciate what other beings can and can't know, but we have a tougher time with this combination of perception and judgement, the closer we get to ourselves.

Posted by: shrink2 | June 21, 2010 4:53 PM | Report abuse

Woah. That was weird.

I blame the Yen.

Posted by: RD_Padouk | June 21, 2010 4:54 PM | Report abuse

Helen Thomas was on the Weingarten chat?

Wow, she really needs to find a new job. :)

Posted by: -dbG- | June 21, 2010 4:55 PM | Report abuse

Please let the record show, by which I mean the lawyers if Helen Thomas, that I don't think she was actually on the chat. I just meant the questions that seemed less interested in seeking an answer and more interested in making a statement.

Posted by: RD_Padouk | June 21, 2010 5:04 PM | Report abuse

Is there going to be a time when a large portion of Americans stop trying to kick over the BP CEOs (Hayward) sandcastles? I swear, it seems that if he does anything but sit in a cold flat in a burlap sack eating beans on toast he gets blasted.

Let it go already.

Posted by: steveboyington | June 21, 2010 5:08 PM | Report abuse

Shrink, I've read the neurological stuff, so pardon me for being flippant.

The very fact that the people try and cover up their apparent inability to get the pencil suggests some kind of awareness that something is wrong, even if it's not immediately accessible to the conscious, verbal self.

If those people were insisting they DID pick up the pencil and what is wrong with the questioner's eyes, I'd agree that the examples are complete anosognosia.

I once read a paper discussing that phenemonen from a neo-freudian perspective, using some testing, to argue that something we might label the id was aware, but unable to communicate the cause of the inability to get the pencil; the higher levels could sense something wrong, but not what-- i.e. the paralysis.

So, the true issue is a major disconnect between different levels of awareness, rather than true unawareness, which left-field spatial neglect is.

That makes me wonder, how do you distinguish true anosognosia from severe dissociation trigered by the very symptoms the patient seems unaware of?

This is not a frivolous question for me from a neurological perspective.

Neurology isn't about the broken part, it's also communicating something is broken. No physical feedback will cause a person to persist as though nothing's wrong, often worsening the symptoms.

If you really can't feel how far is too far, you have to deduce from the observed and the conflict with what was felt in order to learn after the fact. That's very difficult if you don't know what to look for and don't quite remember what "normal" should be.

I would like to hope you're right, but I don't think so. People are quick to judge what they don't understand, and the mind can never be fully understood.

Posted by: Wilbrod_Gnome | June 21, 2010 5:19 PM | Report abuse

Hey, Tony Hayward's OK with me. When the man tells me he don't know much about the oil-drillin' bidness, I've got no reason in the world to doubt him.

Posted by: bobsewell | June 21, 2010 5:23 PM | Report abuse

I thought positive and negative statements were being made in the GW chat.

I'm going to have to think about that, shrink2. My colleagues in the past Boodle really don't appear to understand that their understanding is limited; not just because they don't have the necessary education or experience. Is that denial or anosognosia?

Given their overestimation of their own skills, the high esteem they hold mine in worries me.

Posted by: -dbG- | June 21, 2010 5:28 PM | Report abuse

SteveB, on one level I agree. Everyone is entitled to some down time, and that includes corporate CEO's.

On another, the buck has to stop somewhere. BP in general, and Dr. Hayward personally, have at times shown a remarkable abundance of arrogance and/or lack of sensitivity. And Hayward's lack of prep for the Congressional hearings was a PR disaster.

At this point he's used up whatever cred he had in this country. He and BP did that, not Americans. And BP understands that. The BP ads no longer feature him.

I don't pretend to know what the solution will be for BP, but it won't have Hayward's name or face associated with it.

It'll take a long time for Americans to let go of what's happened. I do hope it'll be sooner rather than later, but it will always be associated with Hayward.

Posted by: MsJS | June 21, 2010 5:35 PM | Report abuse

"That makes me wonder, how do you distinguish true anosognosia from severe dissociation triggered by the very symptoms the patient seems unaware of?"

This is part of what I do. If I told you how I do it, that would make me seem less brilliant and might result in a pay cut.

"People are quick to judge what they don't understand, and the mind can never be fully understood."

This is inarguable.

"The very fact that the people try and cover up their apparent inability to get the pencil suggests some kind of awareness that something is wrong."

Awareness of social cues (what people call EQ) is in a different neurological structure. It seems our brain is an accretion of a bunch of neuro-gizmos, some rigid and discrete, some poorly integrated, some widely shared and some are quite plastic, a meta-gizmo perhaps. A person with an acquired expressive aphasia may lose their ability to communicate in English, permanently, but still be able to use their High School French and learn more French on top of that.


Posted by: shrink2 | June 21, 2010 5:36 PM | Report abuse

dbG - Indeed, there were many positive and negative statements. And that's the way it should be. The chats aways specifically state that comments are encouraged. I was just impressed with the way they dealt with the negative comments.

Posted by: RD_Padouk | June 21, 2010 5:42 PM | Report abuse

You know what?

I wish that the WaPo would throw up Mr.A's opening sentence in the kit as a headline:

_Why is Everyone Such a Screwup Lately?_

No story, no polls, no comment page. Just let everyone ask themself that question. Maybe a few moments of silence (boodlers excepted ?) and self-reflection would yield a collective sigh of relief.
Dream on.

Posted by: talitha1 | June 21, 2010 5:44 PM | Report abuse

Sorry.

Posted by: talitha1 | June 21, 2010 6:01 PM | Report abuse

I agree with you (I am a real neurology buff.)

True bilinguals have their languages organized in different spots of the brain; it would take damage to more fundamental language processing to block both languages, and that'd affect listening and more things than just expression.

So basied on that, I assume you look for more global neurological deficits that should exist given the apparent symptoms, as well as testing triggers for dissociative states, or for fakery without the subject knowing.

It requires a lot of neurological and psychiatric knowledge together, that.

Posted by: Wilbrod_Gnome | June 21, 2010 6:08 PM | Report abuse

Shrink2-- sorry to talk shop with you. Back to normal boodling.

Posted by: Wilbrod_Gnome | June 21, 2010 6:13 PM | Report abuse

"I assume you look for more global neurological deficits that should exist given the apparent symptoms...for fakery without the subject knowing..."

warmer...warmer...

On a related subject, it is clear to me that one of the symptoms of the heterogeneous neurological disease construct we call schizophrenia involves anosognosia, in some cases.

They simply can not figure out why anyone thinks they might have the illness, even though they can come up to you and say, "sheesh, so and so over there is bonkers, can't you do something to help that guy?"

We have known for awhile that there are lots of cognitive and frontal lobe deficits associated with the illness, but it seems pretty clear most of us use other peoples' take on our views of reality as our own benchmarking system, a collective consciousness you might say (and a collective conscience too, as was boodled previously).

But if that gizmo, that part of EQ goes away, we have no way of knowing whether we are wrong if our brain is telling us we are right. For these people, there is nothing inherently wrong, or odd, let alone funny, with the idea, "I am the only sane one here, I am right and everyone else is wrong."


Posted by: shrink2 | June 21, 2010 6:25 PM | Report abuse

two sorries?
maybe its the kit?

I don't see any screwing up though, not yet anyway.

Posted by: shrink2 | June 21, 2010 6:27 PM | Report abuse

This is getting interesting. I read this
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anosognosia
and it reminded me of Dunning-Kruger effect. Wilbrod, your remarks are incisive as usual. And RD, too.

I have noticed an extreme version, wherein the subject acts as if he - and usually it is, but not always he - is seen to be perfect by others and fights desperately to maintain this facade. Of course, in reality no one around them really believe in their infallibility. It becomes almost a fool's game. Then there's the version where the subject is more concerned with his own inner perception of his own infallibility.

I have noted how internal reflection is a very poor evaluation tool regarding mental capacity. Prior to working sudokus daily each morning, (I quit doing crosswords years ago)I wasn't so aware of this. It seems there are days I am stupider than my average, and I would never know without doing the puzzle. Similarly days I'm firing on extra cylinders: no internal signals to know it.

Posted by: Jumper1 | June 21, 2010 6:43 PM | Report abuse

I'm pretty sure that I'm immune to Dunning-Kruger Effect since I suffer from debilitating Impostor Sundrome.

Posted by: yellojkt | June 21, 2010 6:51 PM | Report abuse

Doubtless, reading such articles
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Introspection_illusion
will make me comparatively less likely to be biased in my own thinking.

Posted by: Jumper1 | June 21, 2010 6:59 PM | Report abuse

"I'm pretty sure that I'm immune to Dunning-Kruger Effect since I suffer from debilitating Impostor Syndrome."

Since all competent people do, you are in good company. It is the people who minimize the relative value of what they don't know who remain dangerously incompetent. This is of course one of the great dangers of the so called self-esteem movement.

Posted by: shrink2 | June 21, 2010 7:05 PM | Report abuse

"I have noted how internal reflection is a very poor evaluation tool regarding mental capacity."

Sorry (now 3x) to go back to The Red Book. Jung tried so hard, but never could leave, his time, his culture, his semiotic prison. He gets an A for effort, but for me, someone in love with paradox, the effort is so immensely valuable for what it was not intended to be.

Posted by: shrink2 | June 21, 2010 7:11 PM | Report abuse

"the effort is so immensely valuable for what it was not intended to be. "
Clarify?

Posted by: Jumper1 | June 21, 2010 7:32 PM | Report abuse

Pardon me, shrink, I just can't help myself...

"Are you -- THE BRAIN SPECIALIST!?!?!"

"No, no, no I am not the BRAIN specialist... YES! *nodding*"

:-)

Posted by: Scottynuke | June 21, 2010 7:36 PM | Report abuse

MsJs, I think Hayward handled things terribly. I think he was clueless on a lot of levels. I also don't think he was personally responsible for the spill. I have no animosity towards him as a human.

I would rather have a piece of the hide of the people who seem to have strong-armed the folks doing the work into doing it recklessly. Those folks and their superiors are the ones who need to be smacked around.

Hayward hasn't deserved a lot of the animosity. He has acted like a doofus... and has taken a lot of proverbial bullets for others who have gotten away easy.

He has been relieved of some of his duties. He can go do whatever he wants, as far as I care.

Of course, I was never one to holler about Bush going on vacation or Obama golfing either.

Posted by: steveboyington | June 21, 2010 7:46 PM | Report abuse

Jumper, you just provided another reason for sport to exist: an objective daily self-tuning of capacity. I also find this effect to be true for many common cognitive tasks, including writing. I guess that's another way of depending on reality checking, but it requires some kind of record and comparison, whether through memory or other means.

This technique isn't great for people who have poor thinking skills to begin with.

Sometimes I'll know my thinking
is off, but not truly realize how off it is until I have just written a sentence that is so a*s-backwards and sideways that it stands as a shining gem of four different grammars colliding all at once. Then there's the flip side, too, when I do complex tasks surprisingly well despite feeling in bad shape.

I still, though, use my internal reality as a guide to how I will probably deal with tasks on a given day. ("Pounding headache, probably won't be able to think straight.") I just am careful to check my assumptions.

Posted by: Wilbrod_Gnome | June 21, 2010 7:48 PM | Report abuse

Jung thought he was doing what we would now call advancing science, gaining and explicating knowledge about reality in other words, by studying his own ideas. The value of the work, as far as I am concerned anyway, comes from what it tells us about C.J. Jung. I guess his heirs understood that at some level and that is why they were so reticent to allow the work to be examined by scholars.

Posted by: shrink2 | June 21, 2010 7:48 PM | Report abuse

Calling in a 19th century heavyweight to weigh on this kit (and kaboodle).

"One must be a god to be able to tell successes from failures without error."-- Anton Chekhov.

"In the realm of psychology you also need details. God preserve you from commonplaces. Best of all, shun all descriptions of the characters' spiritual state. You must try to have that state emerge clearly from their actions. Don't try for too many characters. The center of gravity should reside in two: he and she"
-- Anton Chekhov.

Posted by: Wilbrod_Gnome | June 21, 2010 8:13 PM | Report abuse

Too much profundity for a Monday, I guess.

Posted by: Bob-S | June 21, 2010 9:02 PM | Report abuse

Hey! I'll have you know I was exercising my brain!
http://www.sinfest.net/archive_page.php?comicID=1319

Posted by: DNA_Girl | June 21, 2010 9:23 PM | Report abuse

I have a jar full of fireflies
The lid is off
And I'm releasing them into the boodle

(__*^*__*^*__*^*__*^*__*^*__*^*__*^*__*^*__*^*__*^*__*^*__)

Posted by: talitha1 | June 21, 2010 9:31 PM | Report abuse

Since the boodle is napping, how about some music that will appeal to the footwear fans out there:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fJKt-DhII_4

Posted by: yellojkt | June 21, 2010 9:32 PM | Report abuse

It has been about an hour since I have been able to get to this blog.... or have most of the opinions section of the WaPo site fully load. You know what does load every time? The new whiz-bang panel advertisement with lots of video and graphics for IBM. Once that thing fully ramps up, everything else freezes.

Does WaPo or IBM realize that stuff like this only sours people on the advertiser?

Posted by: steveboyington | June 21, 2010 9:33 PM | Report abuse

steveb,
I think WaPo.com is too busy cashing the checks to worry about ruining the user experience. The must have some great recipes for cooked golden goose over there.

Posted by: yellojkt | June 21, 2010 9:36 PM | Report abuse

Just watched some highlights from the matches today.

There will not be a prettier goal scored the rest of the way than the first one by David Villa.

Posted by: steveboyington | June 21, 2010 9:40 PM | Report abuse

jkt, I just want to let you know that I see Gene weekly. He does something religiously on Saturday mornings at which time, I usually get to say hi and crack a joke. He doesn't laugh, but he is polite.

Posted by: russianthistle | June 21, 2010 10:01 PM | Report abuse

Steveb have you seen this Villa goal?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sNEavT-_u7k

Posted by: DNA_Girl | June 21, 2010 10:03 PM | Report abuse

Steveb have you seen this Villa goal?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sNEavT-_u7k

Posted by: DNA_Girl | June 21, 2010 10:03 PM | Report abuse

I thought the boodle was just a smoking corpse done in by time-travel.

Glad to know I was wrong.

Posted by: Wilbrod_Gnome | June 21, 2010 10:03 PM | Report abuse

rt,
So if I really want to stalk him you're the man to see? Good to know.

My guess is that it has to do with either the Eastern Market or that cemetery he uses as a dog park. Either way, don't tell me. I have to maintain plausible deniability.

Posted by: yellojkt | June 21, 2010 10:09 PM | Report abuse

Not to take anything away from any boodlers that might have their own tee shirt business, but these are really cool:

http://controversy.wearscience.com/

Posted by: yellojkt | June 21, 2010 10:10 PM | Report abuse

I hope that someone
gets my...enlightenment from
a bottle, heyyy...

Posted by: DNA_Girl | June 21, 2010 10:12 PM | Report abuse

a deniability is plausible except for stuff on Judge Judy OR any of the first two or three attempts in a republican sex scandal cover-up news conference.

Posted by: russianthistle | June 21, 2010 10:26 PM | Report abuse

SBoyington - Yeah, comments stopped loading for me on most articles many months ago. Doesn't seem to matter which computer or browser I'm using.

I gave up. I figure I have enough opportunities to spout my gibberish here and at the couple of other blogs I periodically peruse, and plenty of other people's pearls of wisdom from the same sources.

I still occasionally submit a comment on some articles, but remain blissfully unaware of whether it posted or not, if it was appropriate for the ongoing comment stream, or what anybody else thought about it. Kind of liberating, really.

Posted by: Bob-S | June 21, 2010 10:26 PM | Report abuse

This LA native's take on the oil slick disaster for his home state:
http://www.dispatch.com/live/content/sports/stories/2010/06/01/louisianas-garey-fumes-as-oil-spills.html?sid=101

Jason Garey was a Terp and one of my best students ever. He plays soccer for Columbus Crewe.

QUOTE from art:
"You can't just say it's (President) Obama's fault, or that Katrina was Bush's fault," Garey said. "To me, a lot of the politicians are crooked. They all have their hands in big oil.

"The people want someone to be held accountable. Louisianans have a feeling like, 'We're going to get screwed again.' BP is going to cap their losses and they will settle and they won't take care of this thing the way it should be taken care of."

The Gareys have had spirited political debates on the subject of offshore drilling. His mother, Kathleen, works in the petrochemical industry. Garey acknowledges the fragile balance that exists in a region dependent on a healthy environment for fishing and tourism and drilling for oil and natural gas.END QUOTE

Posted by: CollegequaParkian | June 21, 2010 10:30 PM | Report abuse

Well, I blew it (or blue it) ... all ALL deniability ...

well, seriously, I do see Mr. W each Saturday when he attempts to be first in line for Crepes from my friend Mitch. I will tell you that his dog Murphy is always a gentleman (or a lady).

I am usually letting out 4-letter words about how hot it is and Gene lets me know that it is getting hotter by the nanosecond.

Posted by: russianthistle | June 21, 2010 10:33 PM | Report abuse

The fireflies numbers this week are astonishing, both the tree top ones and the long grass ones. I am so happy to see them. The last few years have been lean firefly-wise. Perhaps Dave of the Counties has ideas on how to garden for fireflies. Butterflies are the $exy insects; but, oh, could we tip our yards toward the firefly habitat somehow?

Posted by: CollegequaParkian | June 21, 2010 10:35 PM | Report abuse

Gene's safe. I've been telling my wife for some time we need an excuse to go to the Eastern Market, but there is no way I am getting her down into DC by 8 a.m. on a Saturday.

Posted by: yellojkt | June 21, 2010 10:38 PM | Report abuse

CqP, please forgive my day laborer outlook, but it is always important to expose people to the work of one of the brightest Americans ... Naomi Klein. Her work on Shock Doctrine has been painfully proven to be accurate.

Posted by: russianthistle | June 21, 2010 10:39 PM | Report abuse

Talitha, you got them here, how do we get them there?

Posted by: -dbG- | June 21, 2010 10:56 PM | Report abuse

I'm sure this was linked previously, but here's a Klein piece on the oil leak:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/theguardian/2010/jun/19/naomi-klein-gulf-oil-spill

Posted by: Bob-S | June 21, 2010 11:06 PM | Report abuse

BP's dividends are disproportionately important for British pensioners' pensions. I'm reminded of Peter Drucker's old dictum that "conservative" investing in "reliable, proven" companies leads to disaster. If I remember correctly, Drucker was thinking of the Pennsylvania Railroad and its like.

I wonder how many stock analysts were paying attention to BP's safety record.

I assume that oil companies checking out BP as a takeover target are figuring the cost of repopulating its remains with competent employees.

Posted by: DaveoftheCoonties | June 22, 2010 12:49 AM | Report abuse

All of them, daveoC. Safety 'shortcuts' (including the Texas City Refinery fire -- in which lives were lost, just like the Deepwater Horizon) make every shareholder more wealthy.

Bottom line is really the bottom. The lowest of the low. The cloaca.

Posted by: Yoki | June 22, 2010 1:07 AM | Report abuse

Fireflies weren't in evidence tonight. In older parts of town, rain lilies (Zephyranthes) were, brought to flower by a brief downpour at church hour on Sunday.

There's a few hopeful toads under streetlights. Some frog choruses. Cicadas were quiet, unlike last night.

Yoki, I knew about Texas City and the Alaska pipeline and assumed BP was working like crazy to recover, the way Ford had after its Focus had suffered some quality problems after introduction around 2000. I was confident enough in Ford to buy one, which proved a good car.

Along with British pension plans, US state pension plans are in trouble from BP, too.

Here's a quote from Financial Times' briefing for Wednesday:

"At BP’s sprawling campus in suburban Sunbury-on-Thames and in the elegant halls of its headquarters in St James’s Square, Mayfair, the realisation that the company was in deep trouble set in about a week ago, two months after the deadly explosion of the Deepwater Horizon rig in the Gulf of Mexico."

Barbarians at the Gates, for sure.

Posted by: DaveoftheCoonties | June 22, 2010 2:34 AM | Report abuse

My brain is almost fully depreciated so I have to live with my incompetence everyday.

Posted by: rainforest1 | June 22, 2010 2:40 AM | Report abuse

Three Mile Island makes the WaPo short list of 'worst environmental disaster' in US history. Graphic on page A6.

Posted by: yellojkt | June 22, 2010 6:43 AM | Report abuse

God loves us so much more than we can imagine through Him that died for all, Jesus Christ.


Good morning, friends. Come on, JA, humans are not perfect, no matter their expertise. It's just that some are worse than others. And compared to the Bush years, I'd say the Office of the President has seen a great improvement. Don't you think? I'm still trying to figure out the guy that apologized to the oil company. I don't understand that. I can't figure it out. He seemed so sincere, but he didn't offer anything to the folks on the gulf that are living that nightmare. Did he? Perhaps I missed that. Yet even so, why did he feel the need to apologize before God and country to a corporation? Was it a race thing? A white man apologizing for the actions of an African-American to another white man? It's too hard for me. I don't get it. Was his soul really that offended? Did he want to cry a river? Oh, to have that for mankind, wouldn't this be a better world. To have that kind of love for each other! Jesus!!

Just wanted to stop in and say hello. Been sick as a puppy, even missed church Sunday. Feeling a little better, attending Vacation Bible School and enjoying it to the max.

Hope everyone here is doing okay. Take care guys, and love to all.

Slyness, it is so hot here, I believe one can bake meat outside, and it wouldn't take long to cook. It's really, really, hot!! 97 degrees and above, but feels much hotter. Stay cool.

Posted by: cmyth4u | June 22, 2010 7:05 AM | Report abuse

You just HAD to point that out, dincha yello? And of course, there are grammatical errors in the graphic, to boot. *SIGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHing and warming up the fax for an extra-special complaint letter*

And in the "What the BLEEP Were They Thinking?!?!?!" Dept., a commanding general in a very active and volatile (in many ways) war zone decides to let Rolling Stone tag along for an article.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/06/22/AR2010062200813.html

Oooooooooooooooooooooooooookay. Sure, when I want an objective look at something as ridiculously complex as U.S. involvement in Afghanistan, I turn to Rolling Stone. *eye roll*

*wondering-just-how-slowly-the-day-will-drag-by-until-NukeSpawn-arrives Grover waves* :-)

Posted by: Scottynuke | June 22, 2010 7:38 AM | Report abuse

Good morning all, hey Cassandra! Yup, hothothot here too. I'm staying in as much as possible, and then enjoying coming into the cool after being outside.

I wonder if I complain as much about being cold in the winter as Mr. T does about being hot in the summer. He's not a fan of hot weather, and I'm not a fan of cold.

Posted by: slyness | June 22, 2010 7:44 AM | Report abuse

Cassandra!! *HUGSSSSSSSSSSS*

Weed, you made a funny -- "I see Gene weekly. He does something religiously on Saturday mornings..."

Gene does something religiously? BWAHAHAHAHA!!! :-)

Posted by: Scottynuke | June 22, 2010 7:59 AM | Report abuse

Cassandra - Joe Barton was a pretty vicious critic of Bill Clinton when Clinton was president, and has some pretty cozy ties with the oil industry.

Posted by: RD_Padouk | June 22, 2010 8:00 AM | Report abuse

Rolling Stone has good political and war coverage. Most of PJ O'Rourke 's Holidays in Hell was first published there.

Posted by: yellojkt | June 22, 2010 8:01 AM | Report abuse

Scotty, say 'hi' to NukeSpawn for us and have a great time with her (which of course you will). Glad you're feeling better Cassandra, try to stay cool-ish. Nice day here as our humidity is gone for a day for which I am grateful as I'm off to play tennis soon.

Posted by: badsneakers | June 22, 2010 8:17 AM | Report abuse

Morning all... beeeyooootiful day at the beach today. Waiting for the bulk of the family to arrive today. Rose early because... hey! I'm at the beach!

Since I'm technically on vacation, I'm boodling on vacation time, not real, boodle time. I just want to add that yellojkt's posts always amuse or inform me--whichever one he's going for. He's a funny, funny guy, but his recent posts about the oil leak have been good reading. I'm happy to let him do the research and analysis for me.

We may say that we write to amuse ourselves, but it's really others' reactions that amuse us, no? When I make you laugh, I laugh.

Also.. I don't think I'd categorize yello's relationship with Gene W as one-way. It's most definitely a two-way acquaintance.

We've all got something we bring to the boodle. Few of us (very few) have hundreds of years of lifetime to relate. I mean, give us a break if we've only been around 40 or 50 years, give or take a few.

Posted by: -TBG- | June 22, 2010 9:02 AM | Report abuse

Since we're talking about weather, I'll share, too. Ours is like Cassandra's. And our AC is still out. Just short of a week now. We're experiencing the pros and cons of the home warranty -- they'll pay for the fix, but only with their parts, which they ordered just yesterday, to arrive in an estimated 2-5 business days. We've decided that we'll pay for freon in the less leaky unit to tide us over, but we weren't able to get the repair guy out yesterday to do it. Fingers crossed for today. We've got the whole routine down -- when the windows open, when they close, cook only quick things or make a cold salad, avoid the upstairs except first thing in the morning. We're handling it, but it's making me cranky. I have learned empathy for those who never have AC.

Posted by: -bia- | June 22, 2010 9:16 AM | Report abuse

Good morning, y'all.

Warm muffins, coffee and OJ on the table.

Lost power (again) during a huge hail storm last night. Three times in less than a week.

Cassandra, feel lots better real soon, 'k?

FTB, enjoy the beach. I'd join you but wheelchairs in sand, well, you can imagine. I'm there in spirit, though.

It will be hot and humid here today, so I"m off to enjoy the great outdoors early.

Posted by: MsJS | June 22, 2010 9:18 AM | Report abuse

*faxin' MsJS a hoverchair so she can enjoy the beach w/TBG* :-)

Posted by: Scottynuke | June 22, 2010 9:22 AM | Report abuse

*faxing a certified frigid meat locker to bia*

Alas, MsJS, it ain't me at the beach -- it's TBG. I am not a beach person, as I get sun poisoning very quickly (itchy welts all over), so I stay out of the sun as much as possible. If you see someone with long sleeves outside, you know it's me.

I really hate this weather. I definitely prefer the colder climes. You can always put another sweater or sweatshirt on; in the summer, you can't even take off your skin. Geez . . . .

Glad you're feeling better Cassandra. Try to keep cool somehow.

Posted by: -ftb- | June 22, 2010 9:35 AM | Report abuse

*duh*

I knew that.

My bad. Gotta go get fresh air.

Posted by: MsJS | June 22, 2010 9:38 AM | Report abuse

Assuming general McChrystal retires, I guess he's a bit late to join this winter's lecture circuit. We're hoping to have P.J. O'Rourke at one of the town's two lecture series. One is Unitarian, the other wealthy Republican.

Over at BP, today's Financial Times story indicates everyone thought safety was rapidly improving, up until the big accident. The company had also dramatically cut its number of employees, especially in the US.

Posted by: DaveoftheCoonties | June 22, 2010 9:38 AM | Report abuse

Cassandra! Hope you continue to feel better, let us know if we can do something to help.

TBG, beach Boodling sounds pretty sweet. Have a great time with your sisters, the cousins and baby Aphrodite. One assumes baklava will be involved. Fax us some, please!

Off to incompetently clean the house. My cousin called last night to say she's coming early next week for a memorial service and could I make her a hotel reservation? Um, no, please stay here. Motivation, right?

Posted by: -dbG- | June 22, 2010 9:40 AM | Report abuse

Football commentary from the BBC:

"As you probably know, one of the possible permuations in Group C is that, if England manage a high-scoring draw with Slovenia and the United States are held by Algeria, England and the US will be level on points, goal difference and goals scored. If so, who qualifies will be decided by a drawing of lots - and that will take place at around 18:00 BST on Wednesday in the media centre at Soccer City in Johannesburg."

to which one wag replied:

"Have England practised drawing lots in training?"

Posted by: DNA_Girl | June 22, 2010 9:44 AM | Report abuse

The quotes Rolling Stone attributed to McChrystal certainly ring true to me, and the environment he creates among subordinates. Having said that, his comment about Ambassador Eikenberry laying the groundwork for an "I told you so" moment is spot on for the Eikenberry I know. McChrystal's mistake was not in allowing RS access, it was in not having enough impostor syndrome.

Good morning boodle! Volunteered for a bump off my return flight to MN and am at the airport watching all the cranky sunburned people herding their school aged progeny about and wishing for year around schools so they wouldn't have to visit FL this time of year.

Posted by: frostbitten1 | June 22, 2010 10:07 AM | Report abuse

Drawing lots to determine who advances just doesn't seem right.

Posted by: dmd3 | June 22, 2010 10:08 AM | Report abuse

DNA Girl... may I add my thanks for your link to the NY Times article.

I remember the look of relief on my dad's ICU doctor's face when I finally realized I needed to say, "Worst-case scenario for us is not death."

I want to make sure my husband and kids read the article, too.

Posted by: -TBG- | June 22, 2010 10:12 AM | Report abuse

I'm glad you enjoy yello's posts, TBG. I will simply note for the record that there are some Boodlers (beside me) who find some of his stuff creepy and "skeevy," (not my word, although I concur) and that he has no sense of where the lines and boundaries are, and that his sense of humor regarding things sexual is on a par with a leering 11-year-old. (Just reporting what they've said.)

Having said that, in the interests of Boodle comity I will now drop the subject, permanently.

Posted by: curmudgeon6 | June 22, 2010 10:13 AM | Report abuse

"There is something beautiful but sad about a picture of an overbalanced wheel. (one of the "teach the controversy" stamps)" (what I meant to post earlier)

What do fireflies eat? Sparse info on the net. The grubs eat smaller grubs, snail larvae, bug eggs. The adults? Even less info. Pollen from flowers, and the omnivorous portion, carnivorous habits, are lesser known. I would guess fanatic lawn keepers who use lots of chemicals would discourage fireflies.

Posted by: Jumper1 | June 22, 2010 10:16 AM | Report abuse

I think that was uncalled for, and hovers near the "personal attack" line. But in the interest of the Boodle, I will drop it as well.

What's for lunch today? We picked up some Eastern Shore peaches yesterday at Food Lion that are making this house smell great. Who wants peach salsa?

Posted by: -TBG- | June 22, 2010 10:17 AM | Report abuse

France's woes continue; South Africa leads Les Bleus 1-0 about 20 minutes into the match.

Posted by: Scottynuke | June 22, 2010 10:23 AM | Report abuse

Yuum, TBG! I gotta go to the farmers market in a little while, I'll pick up cantelopes, tomatoes, green beans, corn.

There's Brie in the fridge, what other cheese do you want?

Sourdough rolls?

Posted by: slyness | June 22, 2010 10:25 AM | Report abuse

Yeh, yellojkt, straighten up and fly right!

(totally not serious; laughing my @z off)

Posted by: Jumper1 | June 22, 2010 10:25 AM | Report abuse

And now France is down to 10 men after a red card for an elbow to the face of a S. African player.

Posted by: Scottynuke | June 22, 2010 10:32 AM | Report abuse

The Tampa Bay Rays are hoping to somehow get a new stadium somewhere in St. Petersburg or Tampa. They figure the existing one isn't good for attendance.

"Tickets are cheap, the team spends more on promotions than any other team, almost one quarter of their games are against the New York Yankees and Boston Red Sox "and there's no bump," [Rays owner] Sternberg said."

http://www.tampabay.com/news/localgovernment/article1103875.ece

The population of the Tampa Bay region is some 3-5 million, depending on how you define boundaries and how many fled during the current recession. Florida seems to be shrinking. Fewer school kids, no apparent need to add 10,000 college students a year...

Snakes in love? Two black racers together in the back yard. Dense but low beds with coonties (of course) are attracting racers and rabbits. Don't know yet whether the hercules-club tree is supporting swallowtail caterpillars. It's only five years old tree, but it's got at least a 20 foot trunk with a tuft of leaves at the top.

Posted by: DaveoftheCoonties | June 22, 2010 10:37 AM | Report abuse

Bafana Bafana scores again, France down 2-0 with about 10 minutes left in the half.

Posted by: Scottynuke | June 22, 2010 10:39 AM | Report abuse

We have grilled honey-mustard chicken breasts, pasta & veggie salad, and blackberries.

Posted by: MsJS | June 22, 2010 10:39 AM | Report abuse

Stilton, please. If folks are hungry, I went ahead and made cherry barbecue sauce the other day and wrote it up. Sans photos; it's red like most, because of the Big Jim pepper I used.
http://jumpersbloghouse.blogspot.com/2010/06/cherry-barbecue-sauce.html

Posted by: Jumper1 | June 22, 2010 10:44 AM | Report abuse

First South Carolina and now Florida. Is it the air? the water?

http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2010/06/florida-fakers-gop-cries-foul-as-20-tea-party-candidates-file-for-ballot.php?ref=fpb

Posted by: kguy1 | June 22, 2010 10:54 AM | Report abuse

You guys are far more civilized than I am.

On the record, I'm with TBG and Jumper and others who have posted here to express appreciation for yello's posts.

We all draw different lines and boundaries. As seasea wrote yesterday, we all have soapboxes and obsessions. Our long-time interactions sometimes foster repeated annoyance when someone climbs on his or her own hobbyhorse, and almost everyone here has one of those things.

And while I'm having a hard time articulating this properly, I do like that yello's appreciation of women is not limited to those of size 4 or smaller.

Posted by: -dbG- | June 22, 2010 10:57 AM | Report abuse

Now that I can drop that topic, I'll bring peach and plum kuchen.

TBG, I'll send you a quick version if you like, for your vacation.

Posted by: -dbG- | June 22, 2010 10:59 AM | Report abuse

Good day all. Hot hot hot here. A/C limited to one area (not broken, just all we have). DC smacked herself up and is now sporting a cast. This morning, badge of honor. As the day gets hotter, I expect that to change.

I'm not sure anyone who posts others' secrets and/or personal info onto the boodle should be pointing out other people's sense of propriety. I think YJ's funny, has great taste in music (even if he can't carry a tune in a bucket, but then again neither can I) and is a Genuinely Nice Guy (an endangered species, for sure). And while he may think (I don't know, but maybe) that lines and boundaries are arbitrary, I know he knows where the high road is....I've seen him take it more than once.

Peach salsa sounds great. As does Stilton, and cherry barbecue sauce. But not all together in one bowl please.

Oh yeah...GNGs, by definition, are hot.

Posted by: LostInThought | June 22, 2010 11:04 AM | Report abuse

Group Hug!

Posted by: dmd3 | June 22, 2010 11:05 AM | Report abuse

Howdy. I'll bring watermelon to lunch.

The thing that puzzles me about the McChrystal flap is that the Gen. appeared to be surprised by the article. If he allowed a reporter extensive access, including presence at meetings and unfettered staff discussion, what did he think the article would look like? Did he not think he would have to apologize to someone when this stuff hit print? Was he too arrogant to care? Did he somehow not think it would be published? Any of those possibilities reveal disturbing characteristics in a leader.

Thanks for the links to the Errol Morris incompetence artice and the end-of-life article. The latter was interesting and moving, and a timely reminder to those of us who somehow think things will work out as we wish, when we are no longer able to express our own wishes. I am partway through the Morris piece. It is fascinating stuff.

Posted by: Ivansmom | June 22, 2010 11:07 AM | Report abuse

dmd and Cqp are the angels who trouble the waters.

Of course, their waters are swimming pools. :)

Posted by: -dbG- | June 22, 2010 11:11 AM | Report abuse

The coach of Les Bleus, Domenech, looks like someone who had been repudiated by his own mother and whose dog had just died.
Only one question remains, will he be fired in the RSA or will the FFF brass wait until they are back in France?

Posted by: shrieking_denizen | June 22, 2010 11:11 AM | Report abuse

That was my point exactly about the general, I-mom.

Shriek, I do believe Domenech was a lame duck before the team even arrived in S. Africa. But I could be wrong.

Posted by: Scottynuke | June 22, 2010 11:19 AM | Report abuse

A friend suggested that if France goes home goalless, it would resemble the denouement of a morality play, with the preceding wrong action being "Zidane's crime at the last World Cup." I post this because it sounds very tidy. I have no clear memory of what Zidane did last time except that a bunch of people talked about it.

Posted by: Ivansmom | June 22, 2010 11:20 AM | Report abuse

Actually, I-mom, the preceding wrong action in this case would be Henry's handball against Ireland. France lost the World Cup final because Zidane couldn't keep his cool and head-butted an Italian player. Instant red card and expulsion.

Posted by: Scottynuke | June 22, 2010 11:26 AM | Report abuse

Zidane butted an opposing player (Italian?) in the chest with his (Zidane's) head.

I am busy taking a stupid IT security online course, which defines my present Boodle activity as a violation of security practice. Oh, dear.

Posted by: ScienceTim | June 22, 2010 11:27 AM | Report abuse

That's why you need to use your BlackBerry, iPhone, iPad or iPod instead, Science Tim.

A number of recent system security articles have encouraged security admins to allow these devices onto a separate wireless network. That way, all viruses will accrue to a personal device.

Posted by: -dbG- | June 22, 2010 11:30 AM | Report abuse

France saves a bit of face with a goal, about 25 minutes left.

Posted by: Scottynuke | June 22, 2010 11:31 AM | Report abuse

Hey, y'all. I am striving to be peaceful within and without today so will refrain from joining in any intramural fray. I appreciate each of you for your own sakes.

Crab quiche and honeydew are my contributions to lunch. Will any of us make it through the afternoon after such a feast?

LiT, a big talitha hug for DC. Is it possible to sign casts these days? llRC they are now colorful fiberglass strips.

Imom, I agree with you about McChrystal. Mr.tal and I were trying to decide which of the CivWar generals he most reminded us. It was a tossup between McClellan and Burnside but many of them would have fit the bill. Mr. Lincoln's consternations with his generals are well-documented and for good reasons.

Posted by: talitha1 | June 22, 2010 11:44 AM | Report abuse

Thanks Talitha. Yep, they're much more colorful these days, still heavy, and still a good surface for graffiti. Should look like a NYC subway car by nightfall.

Crab quiche....yum!

Posted by: LostInThought | June 22, 2010 12:07 PM | Report abuse

kguy1, The Tea Party movement has energized the vast numbers of Florida residents who moved here because they wanted low taxes and no do-gooders in office. I doubt that it took any machinations for self-identified Tea Party types to put themselves on the ballots.

Posted by: DaveoftheCoonties | June 22, 2010 12:09 PM | Report abuse

DotC -- do any of those who want to run for office wonder how they might be paid if the taxes are low?

Posted by: -ftb- | June 22, 2010 12:19 PM | Report abuse

The thing I find amusing about the whole TP conspiracy business is that when the movement started up its folks went to great pains to say that it was not allied with any particular political party, but merely consisted of citizens concerned about the growth of government and the deficit, and yet it now appears that any member of the TP who once upon a time was registered as a Democrat is suspect. A lovely side irony to this is that the GOP-TP wackadoodle Senate candidate in Nevada, Sharron Angle, has been at one time or another a Republican, a Democrat, and a member of the American Independent Party, but nobody is questioning her right to a place on the ballot.

"Stupid is forever, ignorance can be fixed."
-Don Wood

Posted by: kguy1 | June 22, 2010 12:36 PM | Report abuse

Just had a wonderful smoothie for lunch (yogurt, blueberries, raspberries, watermelon and honeydew). My favorite summer lunch.

LiT, hope DC is feeling better. A cast in the summertime is not a fun thing, been there. How long is she stuck with it?

I do not understand why anyone would agree to an interview in which you and your staff trash your superiors. McChrystal should be fired for stupidity, if for nothing else. He can probably get a job with BP.

Posted by: badsneakers | June 22, 2010 12:40 PM | Report abuse

kguy, I have it on good authority that Angle is using e-mail spam (in the very literal sense of the word) in her campaign. *eye roll*

Posted by: Scottynuke | June 22, 2010 12:43 PM | Report abuse

I think McChrystal has succumbed to the pride of generalship - Things go my way or the highway, and I can control everything in my sphere. I'm sure somewhere in OCS is a session on dealing with the press. The fundamental rule is to never say anything that you wouldn't want to see plastered across the front page of the NY Times/WashPo/Chicago Tribune, etc. There is no such thing any more as an "off-the-record" discussion. If you've got a gripe, tell it to the Joint Chiefs chairman or SecDef. Chain of command still holds sway. If you really don't like the strategy, retire or get yourself out of the way.

Posted by: ebtnut | June 22, 2010 12:50 PM | Report abuse

ftb, Our very own Tea Party guy on the city council is fully compensated by the pleasure of causing disruption.

Posted by: DaveoftheCoonties | June 22, 2010 1:03 PM | Report abuse

Sneaks, the game plan is two casts over five to seven weeks (second one to be waterproof), but my guess is they've misjudged her ability to 'take it easy.' While she understands the bike is out, she's already been up in the tree.

Posted by: LostInThought | June 22, 2010 1:09 PM | Report abuse

LiT, you'll be happy to hear I've foregone the obvious Eagles reference with regards to DC.

And I hope she surprises the medicos with her rapid healing ability. :-)

Posted by: Scottynuke | June 22, 2010 1:22 PM | Report abuse

Good afternoon, all.

LiT, sorry to hear about DCs bump. Making some lemonade here, her summertime cast sounds like a wonderful wearable art project. Decopage/mosaic, sequins/jewelry, paint, markers, diorama, etc. The Silly Band possibilities alone stagger my imagination.

On another note, it appears that Gen. McKristol is going to apologize face-to-face. Good for him - not for what was said or done, but for taking responsibility for mistakes, and being humble about it when called on account. Gotta love it when a honcho apologizes, hat in hand.

bc

Posted by: -bc- | June 22, 2010 1:23 PM | Report abuse

Diehl's instant analysis of the McChrystal situation may be the best one. There's a few too many Afghanistan agendas being pushed through leaks and snide comments.

Posted by: DaveoftheCoonties | June 22, 2010 1:30 PM | Report abuse

I wouldn't call McChrystal's appearance tomorrow "hat in hand". More like "tail between legs". Considering he was ordered back by Gates (although I had first read by Obama so am a little fuzzy on that point) I don't think he's falling on his own sword voluntarily.

Posted by: talitha1 | June 22, 2010 1:35 PM | Report abuse

Whut'd I say? Oh, well, that's just my take on it and I'd be happy to be further enlightened beyond having read every opinion piece I can locate on the matter.

Posted by: talitha1 | June 22, 2010 1:55 PM | Report abuse

After reading some of the articles about McChrystal this morning, I found out that he was behind the coverup of the death of Pat Tillman. Gotta love our military, eh? Such integrity. . . . .

Feeling a little cranky. Both my house guest and I have (yet again for me, dang it!) run into some tummy crumbies. We both chugged down some Pepto Bismol this morning, I took him to the Metro and he's presumably at his meeting. I've just taken some ginger tea, which seems to have worked. Tonight we'll have more of that along with some soda crackers (which is wife is on, as she still has horrible morning sickness). At the farmers market last Saturday, I got *tons* of fruit and veg, now remaining uneaten. Well, it's only Tuesday, he goes back home on Saturday and we'll see if we're somehow human again by tomorrow.

Plus, it's five hundred million degrees outside and I'd rather see a blizzard outside. Honest, slyness, really I do.

See? Told ya I was cranky.

*sigh*

Posted by: -ftb- | June 22, 2010 2:00 PM | Report abuse

Mudge, you're entitled to say your piece.
You're not entitled to convey anonymous opinions as a defense, though.

Yellojkt certainly will apologize whenever he knows he has hurt others, often without being asked; I've witnessed this first-hand.

You can't claim he hurt people who are too chicken to speak up and say so and consider that relevant or fair fighting.

Posted by: Wilbrod_Gnome | June 22, 2010 2:05 PM | Report abuse

Oh LiT, good luck with keeping DC down. I have a granddaughter sort of like that :-)

ftb, sorry you are feeling poorly, and in the heat too, which makes feeling bad even worse.
I love the heat, altho' I'm sure that if I lived around D.C. I'd feel differently because our heat isn't so unrelenting.

Posted by: badsneakers | June 22, 2010 2:25 PM | Report abuse

ftb, I understand and sympathize. You will note that I generally stay inside during both heat waves and blizzards.

Posted by: slyness | June 22, 2010 2:26 PM | Report abuse

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2010/06/22/national/main6607071.shtml

A judge has blocked Obama's 6-month moratorium on deep water drilling.

Posted by: MsJS | June 22, 2010 2:32 PM | Report abuse

I'm sorry, too, to hear about DC's injury. I do like bc's cast-as-art idea. Silly string? Please be sure to sign it somewhere for the Boodle, or from Mommy's Imaginary Friends.

Posted by: Ivansmom | June 22, 2010 2:49 PM | Report abuse

*faxing sparkles and glitter to DC for her cast*

Sneaks, not only is it hot, but it's terribly humid, too. I hate it when you get what feels like 100% humidity and it doesn't rain. And then you have to breathe the stuff. Yuckums. Of course, all the hot air emanating outta Congress don't help much, either.

Posted by: -ftb- | June 22, 2010 2:57 PM | Report abuse

My sympathies to all enduring the heat, humidity, or thunderstorms.

Posted by: Wilbrod_Gnome | June 22, 2010 3:03 PM | Report abuse

Orrin Hatch wants to drug test the unemployed. Orrin Hatch can bite me!

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/06/22/orrin-hatch-drug-test-the_n_620908.html

Posted by: badsneakers | June 22, 2010 3:09 PM | Report abuse

Cotton balls and coat hangers, LiT, but you know this. Itchy, scratchy!

I had a waterproof walking cast about ten years ago....swam laps anyway and the atrophy was minimal. Dear DC!

Posted by: CollegeQuaParkian1 | June 22, 2010 3:12 PM | Report abuse

Oh goodie -- let's *really* expand gummint to drug test the unemployed. How about the under employed? How about the over employed? You know --those guys with all the money to *buy* drugs. . . .

*head exploding, and not from the tummy crumbies*

Posted by: -ftb- | June 22, 2010 3:18 PM | Report abuse

*faxing fun decals to DC*

At age 12 I broke my leg in two places. In August.

I have no idea if there's any scientific evidence for this, but my experience was that it was less itchy the more physically active I was.

Posted by: MsJS | June 22, 2010 3:21 PM | Report abuse

Good World Cup news for TBG:

Greece is holding Argentina to a 0-0 draw at the half. :-)

Posted by: Scottynuke | June 22, 2010 3:24 PM | Report abuse

Suicide by Sandwich-

1500 Calories!
870 Fat Calories!!
79g Total Fat!!!
38g Saturated Fat!!!!
180g Cholesterol!!!!!
2090mg Sodium!!!!!!
101g Carbs!!!!!!!

http://consumerist.com/2010/06/friendlys-grilled-cheese-burger-melt-is-coming-for-your-arteries.html

Posted by: kguy1 | June 22, 2010 3:35 PM | Report abuse

Yeah, let's give sobriety tests to the Senate while we're at it.

Posted by: Jumper1 | June 22, 2010 3:43 PM | Report abuse

But where's the bacon, kguy??

Oh, and McChrystal's civilian press aide has resigned after having arranged all the press access for the RS article. A little late, doncha think? *raised unibrow*

Posted by: Scottynuke | June 22, 2010 3:43 PM | Report abuse

And we could hook up Orrin's wee-wee to an excitometer and see what trips his trigger at the same time.

Posted by: Jumper1 | June 22, 2010 3:46 PM | Report abuse

Bring it on. Just another humiliation for people who are unemployed.

Posted by: seasea1 | June 22, 2010 3:51 PM | Report abuse

We'll save the bacon to mark your grave if you eat this thing, S'nuke. I cannot get over the thought of a single menu item with almost triple the calories, almost four times the saturated fat, and more than twice the cholesterol and sodium of a Big Mac, which is itself hardly the world's healthiest meal. Talk about digging your grave with your teeth!

Posted by: kguy1 | June 22, 2010 3:53 PM | Report abuse

No, it's a violation of civil rights.

What are you going to do, jail unemployed cancer patients for legally prescribed morphine?

Posted by: Wilbrod_Gnome | June 22, 2010 3:54 PM | Report abuse

But whadda way to go, kguy... *L*

Posted by: Scottynuke | June 22, 2010 3:56 PM | Report abuse

So the Product Development Team met and some bright light said, "What's say we put a burger between two grilled-cheese sandwiches, and up the fat and sodium to lethal levels!" and the rest of them consider, started nodding slightly, then enthusiastically endorse it?! What were they thinking?

Posted by: Yoki | June 22, 2010 3:58 PM | Report abuse

Then there was this, the short lived Windows 7 Whopper-

http://www.electronista.com/articles/09/10/21/microsoft.promos.win.7.with.bk.deal/

Posted by: kguy1 | June 22, 2010 3:58 PM | Report abuse

They were thinking two words, Yoki:

Food Pr0n

:-)

Posted by: Scottynuke | June 22, 2010 4:01 PM | Report abuse

Oh, and paging bc!!

I hear tell the IRL's coming to Baltimore next year.

:-)

Posted by: Scottynuke | June 22, 2010 4:02 PM | Report abuse

I would suggest to all the unemployed folks in Utah that they send their urine samples directly to Senator Hatch's office in unmarked containers.

Posted by: kguy1 | June 22, 2010 4:03 PM | Report abuse

Way off topic, but a day of note for women, first two female players inducted into the Hockey Hall of Fame, congrates Angela James and Cammie(sp) Granato.

http://www.legendsofhockey.net/html/ind10prolog.htm

Posted by: dmd3 | June 22, 2010 4:04 PM | Report abuse

And Spar... I mean, Greece's valiant stand ends in the 77th minute. Argentina up 1-nil.

Posted by: Scottynuke | June 22, 2010 4:07 PM | Report abuse

Horrid Cant is an anagram of Orrin Hatch.

Posted by: talitha1 | June 22, 2010 4:13 PM | Report abuse

I have GOT to find another hairstylist. Went this morning for a cut and got a bellyful of rightwing crap about health care. Did you know that illegal aliens sign up for free medical care? And that unemployed people do too? I argued but I might as well have talked to the mirror for the good it did.

Posted by: slyness | June 22, 2010 4:14 PM | Report abuse

Nope, sorry ------forget it.

Posted by: talitha1 | June 22, 2010 4:16 PM | Report abuse

Have you ever felt like you should just go to bed early and try again tomorrow? It's 84 degrees in my house and all the fans and iced tea in the world haven't helped.
My brain is obviously fried.

Posted by: talitha1 | June 22, 2010 4:19 PM | Report abuse

Argentina wins it 2-0. Messi had a VERY nice goal. Maradona propels his considerable body mass upon a teamate for a big bear hug every time his team scores a goal. The guys must be taking turns to spread the hurt.

Posted by: shrieking_denizen | June 22, 2010 4:24 PM | Report abuse

Jumper and Kguy, I like the way you think!

There was a news bit last night about how dinner plates are much bigger than they were in the '40's and '50's (I forget the relative diameters). So meals, at home and in restaurants are up to 1/3 larger, which someone calculated comes to an average of 500 calories more per meal. We just don't eat out that much and never, I mean never, go to those fast food chains.

Posted by: badsneakers | June 22, 2010 4:26 PM | Report abuse

SCC very nice game. He dis everything but score.

Posted by: shrieking_denizen | June 22, 2010 4:26 PM | Report abuse

slyness, yesterday I got an earful of decidedly racist commentary while waiting in line at the local Post Office. I offered some alternative views, but the orator wasn't interested.

Just what the state of Utah needs. More bureaucracy and more expense to gather, process, and record urine tests. Aside from the purely legal issues, why would the state want the headache?

South Korea and Nigeria tied at 2. Gorgonzola beat Greece 2-0.

Posted by: MsJS | June 22, 2010 4:28 PM | Report abuse

I'm trying to think whether it would be truthful to say that I was "amused" by yellojkt's "Hot Blooded" YouTube cover. I watched it, I told my friends about it, I even emailed him about it I think. I haven't been able to forget it.

All in all, I have to say, yes, I was amused. But also, bemused. And the fact that I haven't yet watched the Winslow Arizona video? Well, I can't watch videos at work, and at home my Mighty Boosh Special Edition DVD set just arrived, so who has time...

Then, I'm trying to decide whether I post on this boodle for my own amusement or for the amusement of others. I guess the two are not mutually exclusive. Which is the predominant motivation? How should I test it?

An observant high school teacher once told me that she had seen me telling myself jokes in class. I didn't deny it. My specialty in school was staying out of trouble, so if I had a class clown / smart aleck remark to make I would just mutter it under my breath and amuse myself in that way; nobody else got a chance to be diverted by it. That's evidence that I would make my comments here even if nobody else benefited from them. In addition, I don't comment all that much these days, so that's evidence that if it doesn't amuse me to do it, I don't feel any social obligation to provide entertainment for my boodle buddies.

Further, this post has been all about me, and I think if you analyze my comments here you'll find that's generally the case. I'm mostly interested in Joel, and what he writes, and secondly I'm interested in how the current topic relates to me, and only after that do I start to get interested in the other boodlers and their reactions. I'm just being honest. I think yellojkt is honest and I respect that. I also think he is smart and funny and I appreciate that. If he's a little nutty, well, who isn't. Glass houses, pots and kettles, and so on.

There's my two weeks worth of comments.

Hi, Cassandra, glad you're feeling better!

Thanks to everybody for some good discussions since I last commented--I've enjoyed them in a hasty, drive-by sort of way. I really appreciate the fact that there is intelligent discussion, even when I'm too busy to fully benefit from it.

Posted by: kbertocci | June 22, 2010 4:31 PM | Report abuse

I don't think drug testing unemployment benefits recipients for drug is enough. They should be made to have their Christian pastor endorcement in writing and provide evidence that they wear only clothes made of flour sacks.

Posted by: shrieking_denizen | June 22, 2010 4:33 PM | Report abuse

While I have always liked Gorgonzola well enough, I find it hard to believe that they were able to beat Greece in such a high profile game. In my experience Gorgonzola always crumbles under pressure.

Posted by: kguy1 | June 22, 2010 4:43 PM | Report abuse

Kb, that's honest enough. I tell myself jokes a lot. I think we're overdue for some (clean-ish) humor by the by. A gratituous lawyer joke:

http://www.jumbojoke.com/the_bronze_rat.html

And for all us thinkers:

http://www.jumbojoke.com/do_you_have_a_thinking_problem.html

Posted by: Wilbrod_Gnome | June 22, 2010 4:48 PM | Report abuse

Gorgonzola's defense should have been shredded by Greece anyway.

Posted by: shrieking_denizen | June 22, 2010 4:48 PM | Report abuse

Now that kind of trash talk is just grating.

Posted by: Wilbrod_Gnome | June 22, 2010 4:56 PM | Report abuse

This metaphor stinks!

Posted by: engelmann | June 22, 2010 4:57 PM | Report abuse

As it should.

Posted by: shrieking_denizen | June 22, 2010 5:07 PM | Report abuse

Thanks folks, I'm slowly getting there.

Kbert, good to hear from you.

RD, I just don't get these folks that have all that sympathy for corporations and none for people trying to make a living, especially since these folks are suppose to represent the folks that vote for them. Right? I know it's asking a whole lot, almost like make believe.

ftb, hope you get to feeling better, although that heat isn't going to help a lot.

bia, I feel your pain. I'm riding in a car that has no air conditioning whatsoever. It's like riding in an oven, the heat is all around even with the windows down. And that's just three, one won't budge. But, hey, I'm riding. Not crying folks. It could be worse. Picture me on a bicycle. Perish the thought!

Have a good evening.

Posted by: cmyth4u | June 22, 2010 5:09 PM | Report abuse

I'm sorry to have caused so much commotion. I would never share anything that doesn't amuse me because it would be hypocritical and/or patronizing to think it would then amuse others. I am well aware that many things that amuse me don't amuse everybody. For them I apologize for wasting their time.

But I never try to amuse myself by abusing others. Like a real green dress, that would be cruel. I would say that I save all my abuse for myself but there may be a double entendre in there that some would find offensive. And while I never deliberately try to offend, I find that in attempting to provoke (thought mostly) I sometimes overshoot the mark. If you ever find something I say or do offensive please let me know publicly or privately (My name is yellojkt and I have a gmail account; do the math). And don't be subtle or coy. I will give my wife as a character reference that I don't catch hints smaller than a sledgehammer.

Thank you for indulging my thoughts on this matter. And on with our show.

Posted by: yellojkt | June 22, 2010 5:41 PM | Report abuse

kguy,
That Windows 7 burger is really almost too perfect a metaphor for 'bloatware.'

Posted by: yellojkt | June 22, 2010 5:45 PM | Report abuse

LiT,
I feel so bad about DC's cast. Kids that age don't understand limitations on fun. I hope she recovers quickly and fully.

And to the other boodlers with infirmities, ailments, and boo-boos, I offer my sympathy. The world needs less suffering not more.

And if you didn't have air conditioning today I feel your pain. Really. I have the sweat-soaked dress work shirt to prove it.

Posted by: yellojkt | June 22, 2010 6:25 PM | Report abuse

LiT - Sorry to hear about DC's cast. My daughter recently broke her elbow, but was out of the cast in three weeks. Although, evidently, the aftermath is an inability to pick up clothing from her floor.

Posted by: RD_Padouk | June 22, 2010 6:25 PM | Report abuse

RD,
Are you sure that wasn't a pre-existing condition?

Posted by: yellojkt | June 22, 2010 6:30 PM | Report abuse

Thanks for all your kind comments. She's fine, and plans to get some serious mileage out of this. She's already scored ice cream and cheesecake.

Posted by: LostInThought | June 22, 2010 6:34 PM | Report abuse

kb,
Solipsism: It's not for everybody, just me.

Posted by: yellojkt | June 22, 2010 6:41 PM | Report abuse

The NYT Style section has a little piece by Flo Fab noting a new kosher ice cream - Chozen.

Apparently there is also a line of bottled sauces - Soy Veh.

Posted by: Yoki | June 22, 2010 7:26 PM | Report abuse

Jumper, Thanks for the link to the Cherry BBQ recipe.
LiT, best wishes to your dot for a speedy recovery.

Posted by: -CB- | June 22, 2010 7:50 PM | Report abuse

Kbert!!! *long-lost-great-to-see-ya Grover waves*

LiT, NukeSpouse wants to know how bad the other kid looks, and how stylish and hot is the pink in DC's cast? :-)

Posted by: Scottynuke | June 22, 2010 7:50 PM | Report abuse

Just had a poignant vision of DC trying to eat corn on the cob with one hand. I hope it's much easier than I'm imagining.

It was hard to leave this behind in Ohio, so I learned how to make it.

Garlic Salad
1 head romaine, cut into 1/2-1" strips
6+ oz. gorgonzola, chunked
2 lg. cloves garlic (garlic-pressed)
homemade vinagrette

Yes, it's a lot of garlic. Yes, it's wonderful. Yes, everyone you'll speak to that night has to eat it.

It's official. I'm now a labrador retriever. Cutter is so creaky that I've taken over many of the playing with Emma in the house chores. In the past few days she's begun initiating play with me the way she would with him, and just now she's nibbled on the side of my hand as a sign of affection. At least I'm still the alpha lab, expected provider of toys and food.

Posted by: -dbG- | June 22, 2010 8:06 PM | Report abuse

Ah, hope your arm doesn't break from all the toy tossing, dbG. Emma would be so sad.

I've been walking Wilbrodog a lot on the track lately, for lack of anyplace better to go.

Posted by: Wilbrod_Gnome | June 22, 2010 8:13 PM | Report abuse

I make something like that dbG, with some crispy bacon bits, blue cheese, fresh herbs and baguette croutons. It is called Luxembourg Salad in the old Silver Palette entertaining cookbook. Guilt-generating (the recipe calls for the croutons to be fried in the bacon fat! I don't do that) but sooooo delicious.

Posted by: Yoki | June 22, 2010 8:13 PM | Report abuse

I'm longing for some real trail walks, but the constant threat of thunderstorms makes it impractical to walk out too far from shelter.

This has been chronically soggy weather. The Mississippi will be riding high in the next few weeks-- if not actually flooding a la 1993, there at least will be a stronger blast of water hitting the Gulf of Mexico.

Posted by: Wilbrod_Gnome | June 22, 2010 8:22 PM | Report abuse

What kind of fresh herbs, Yoki?

Posted by: Wilbrod_Gnome | June 22, 2010 8:25 PM | Report abuse

*getting a contact high from dbG and Yoki -- the salad sounds great (and ya don't gain weight from reading the recipe*

I'm glad it's still light out. Really. It's on its way to 8:30 here and my house guest hasn't arrived at the Metro station (wherefrom he would call me to pick him up) nor has he called. I've been pacing for several hours now. I just got off the phone with his colleague who is staying in a hotel downtown, who told me that my guest is at a later meeting.

*muttering maternally -- as in, **why can't these young people (okay, he's in his early 40s, but, still ....) at least ***CALL*** a person** *

The storm seems to have moved through quickly (YAY), so I hope to be able to hear the phone ring soon. Oh, please, make it soon. . . . .

Posted by: -ftb- | June 22, 2010 8:27 PM | Report abuse

Usually (but it is easy to vary) chervil, parsley, tarragon.

Posted by: Yoki | June 22, 2010 8:31 PM | Report abuse

The Orrin Hatch drug test the unemployed thing is a hoot. In New Hampshire, the Tea Party Patriots seem full of pee and vinegar to legalize marijuana.... more freedom!

This would be a great thing for them to consider. I bet the majority would be FOR drug testing the unemployed slackers who mooch off the Tea Party Patriots. I bet the majority of the Tea Party Patriots would also be AGAINST the government drug testing the Tea Party Patriots.

Posted by: steveboyington | June 22, 2010 8:33 PM | Report abuse

As far as McChrystal and his article statements, there is one phrase that I have learned from my newest boss: b-tch up, not down.

A great motto, I think.

Posted by: steveboyington | June 22, 2010 8:36 PM | Report abuse

Good evening, all.

Haven't backboodled this afternoon, but I'm out on my deck with the laptop and a glass of wine, watching the really impressive thunderheads go by to my south -- lavender, salmon pink, orange, grey and white against the blue skies in the setting sun.

Now to see what I've missed this afternoon...

bc

Posted by: -bc- | June 22, 2010 8:41 PM | Report abuse

Got a question for the boodling wordhauers.

Is the transitive verb 'husband' sexist?

It gets used all the time as a crowned noun, animal husbandry, careful husbandry of competing interests...

But you know, you've tried to substitute 'wifery' in the same construction...it does not work.

Then there is midwifery which is qualitatively different. There is no 'midhusbandry'.

All words are symbols; was the idea something like husbands are efficient and (mid)wives are profligate?

No need for speed, just wondering.
Its a semiotics thing. How has the verb, 'to husband' survived in ordinary Liberal usage?

Posted by: shrink2 | June 22, 2010 8:51 PM | Report abuse

As I'm boodling out on the deck here, the sun's going down in an orange and purple light show, and suddenly, there are about a dozen fireflies around me here.

Odd, since I'm about a dozen feet off of the ground, but nice all the same.

Speaking of nice, it's cooling off and there's a breeze, undoubtedly related to those storms down yonder.

bc

Posted by: -bc- | June 22, 2010 9:03 PM | Report abuse

yello-just want to let you know that the only thing about you that has ever bothered me is your who/that confusion. However, I've become so accustomed to it now that it's somewhat endearing.

kb-glad to see you dropped in. Enjoy The Mighty Boosh.

Cassandra-stay cool.

ftb-the stories dc will have! I pity those who make it to adulthood without having a cast and a cool scar or two.

Posted by: frostbitten1 | June 22, 2010 9:03 PM | Report abuse

Ah, here you have that strange nexus of etymology, history and semiotics.

Most languages other than English have "to husband" as a transitive verb that does not now nor ever had anything to do with gender/marital status. Most other Indo-European languages stick the straighforward my man/my woman construction for that.

In Anglo-Saxon, to husband was applied equally to men and women who minded farms. It was only when property laws (at least in both common and civil law) changed in the early medieval times that it was assumed that everything belonged to the man, and that therefore he was husbanding the [whatever - lifestock, land, trade], that my man turned into my husband.

I therefore conclude that the simple use of that verb is not sexist; I am able to husband my investments as much as any man.

Posted by: Yoki | June 22, 2010 9:05 PM | Report abuse

Frosti -- that weren't me -- it were LiT

Still no word. Worried out of my mind. Rules will change when I pick him up!

Yes, I said *when* . . . .

Posted by: -ftb- | June 22, 2010 9:15 PM | Report abuse

Breathe, ftb. He's a grown man. Catasrophizing hurts you and doesn't help him.

Posted by: Yoki | June 22, 2010 9:17 PM | Report abuse

oops, I meant LiT and typed ftb. Heat stroke I tell you. Thanks for the correction.

Posted by: frostbitten1 | June 22, 2010 9:19 PM | Report abuse

Yoki, really?
You know that?

Symbol history is very interesting to me (obviously). In this case, how constructs associated with human concentrated value* and powerful skills became assigned to gender, though they clearly had nothing to do with sex.

Thank you.

*not the sun , beauty, the rain, I'm talking about day to day work 'till you are dead, dirty hands value

Posted by: shrink2 | June 22, 2010 9:35 PM | Report abuse

4H and Future Farmers of America are part of my formation. I husbanded

chickens (buff Orphingtons)
rabbits (I rued that day when the bunny pelt process became clear)


And now, dear reader, I husband such delights in the bloomy, blossomy world.

Earlier dbG said something about ruffling the water (dmd and me):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jWH6wR0Umqs

Eva Cassidy singing and interesting water/icebergs.

And, my goodness the number of fireflies again and still....charming.

Posted by: CollegeQuaParkian1 | June 22, 2010 9:36 PM | Report abuse

Husband= house manager. Still used to mean "manager" in Britian, so these associated meanings will continue to survive here, even if it's becoming increasingly funny-sounding to the Yankee ear.

One perk is that it absolutely has no "man" in it per se, and husbandry does sound different enough from "husband" now often shortened to hubby (parallel to hussy, which came from housewife.)

Maybe the two menaings will evolve into heteronyms; huband vs hus-band.

Posted by: Wilbrod_Gnome | June 22, 2010 9:44 PM | Report abuse

Why yes, yes I do, strange as it may seem. I would never claim to know something I don't. You can be reasonably certain I know what I'm talking about when I do offer something.

-Food both Theoretical and Practical
-Hockey
-Words and Literature
-The Energy Industry and Technology
-The Management and Growth of Professional Services Firms
-Travel and Geography
-Thoughtful Parenting

Other than on these topics, I'm talking through my hat (only I don't *have* a hat, so I try to avoid that).

Posted by: Yoki | June 22, 2010 9:49 PM | Report abuse

Not if I had anything to say about it, Wilbrod.

Posted by: Yoki | June 22, 2010 9:51 PM | Report abuse

Fireflies and cooler air have tempered my fevered brain this evening, thank heaven, along with back-boodling.

Earlier this afternoon I read the Rolling Stone piece on McChrystal. (Easily accessible on their homepage, front and center.) Wow and then some!!!

Thanks for the Eva Cassidy, CqP.

Posted by: talitha1 | June 22, 2010 9:53 PM | Report abuse

Broke 80 here on the left coast or Ore-gon today. No fireflies here. Would be nice to have them. Some strange little black and yellow bees around the roses today. Not honey bees and not bumble bees.
Off today for the first time in ages from the Britt Fest. Steve Martin with his banjo was a sell out Sunday. A five day run starts Thursday (britt fest.org) so six more straight days of work. Hard to keep our lawns mowed
Yello, What again was the diff between relative humidity & dew point? Lots of dew this morning and it's humid this afternoon. haha.
The general sounds a bit stupid, it's his strategy the Obama is endorsing.

Posted by: bh72 | June 22, 2010 9:53 PM | Report abuse

SCC 'that Obama

Posted by: bh72 | June 22, 2010 9:55 PM | Report abuse

Yoki is our international shark wrangler, Shrink. Words are her trade.

Posted by: Wilbrod_Gnome | June 22, 2010 9:57 PM | Report abuse

Sweat bees?

Posted by: CollegeQuaParkian1 | June 22, 2010 9:58 PM | Report abuse

Sweat bees:
http://www.everythingabout.net/articles/biology/animals/arthropods/insects/bees/sweat_bee/

I think of them as tiny.

Posted by: CollegeQuaParkian1 | June 22, 2010 10:01 PM | Report abuse

Thanks for putting the world on notice regarding appropriate pronunication of "husband," Yoki.

I think "spouse" is a fine alternative myself, although I don't espouse dropping "husband" just to be politically correct.

Posted by: Wilbrod_Gnome | June 22, 2010 10:02 PM | Report abuse

Decided that i am outta here. See yuze guys on the other side. Enjoy.

Posted by: russianthistle | June 22, 2010 10:05 PM | Report abuse

Is there such a thing as a sweat bee? That is *fabulous.*

Posted by: Yoki | June 22, 2010 10:05 PM | Report abuse

Relative humidity is the ratio of how much water is in the air to the amount of water it can hold. It can be 60 degrees and 100% humidity and it will feel cool but clammy. Relative humidity tends to be highest early in the morning or right after a rain.

Dew point is the temperature at which water will condense. I call it the sweaty glass temp. A glass of water (or can of beer) colder than the dewpoint will have water on the outside. If the morning temperature is below the dewpoint, there will be dew (or frost). Dew point is a better measure of humidity. Anything above 70 is pretty dang humid.

Here is a map of current dew points around the country:

http://weather.unisys.com/surface/sfc_con_dewp.html

Posted by: yellojkt | June 22, 2010 10:07 PM | Report abuse

Maybe orchid bees, although those are glossy and often blue or green (like sweat bees)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Euglossini
Saw a whole bunch of them around a goldenrod one August.

Hopefully bh72 knows how to recognize yellowjacket wasps on sight; they do look like sleek, non-fuzzy, non-cuddly bees.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yellowjacket


Posted by: Wilbrod_Gnome | June 22, 2010 10:12 PM | Report abuse

Never did Britt. I think it was possibly a matter of living near Reed College's chamber music, and of doing the Oregon Shakespeare Festival down south early or late.

We were a steambath today.

Posted by: DaveoftheCoonties | June 22, 2010 10:17 PM | Report abuse

"You can be reasonably certain I know what I'm talking about when I do offer something."

Good. The world, a better place.

Others say humans are cute machines that learn to smear stuff on the wall, see what sticks.

This is what I am trying to figure out.
More certain we know what we are talking about?, or are we getting better at gouache, I don't know, but I think we are getting better at being certain.

Kids to bed soon, bye.

Posted by: shrink2 | June 22, 2010 10:20 PM | Report abuse

Let's see if this gets through. My last 5 haven't. See y'all tomorrow.

Posted by: -dbG- | June 22, 2010 10:27 PM | Report abuse

All I can tell you is it was brilliant. Probably the best thing I've ever (tried to) post. :)

Truly, g'nite.

Posted by: -dbG- | June 22, 2010 10:30 PM | Report abuse

Thanks, yello, for the re-explanation of dewpoint and the map. It documents my belief that it is pretty darn humid hereabouts, and explains why I can't stay out for any length of time, even in the shade, without becoming very uncomfortable. Bah.

Posted by: Ivansmom | June 22, 2010 10:35 PM | Report abuse

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/06/22/AR2010062205391.html?hpid=topnews

Joel has a new story on worst-case scenarios. I think the guy talking of 20 million evacuees in the event of a hurricane was off by an order of magnitude.

Posted by: DaveoftheCoonties | June 22, 2010 10:41 PM | Report abuse

Speaking of sweating,I finally watched the long version of the yellokjt Takes it Easy in Windslow video.

It's a darn shame American Idyll has an age limit, sir. You'd be *in*.

Still think you might have a shot at SYTYCD, though.

Thanks to you and Mrs. yellokjt (I believe I recognized the sneeeze at the end) for that laugh.

Haven't read the Rolling Stone McCrystal piece yet, but imagine it's quite interesting. And remarkable...

bc

Posted by: -bc- | June 22, 2010 10:49 PM | Report abuse

What did RT mean?

Posted by: DNA_Girl | June 22, 2010 11:01 PM | Report abuse

ftb, I'm sorry, but I just had to post this for you

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uzG4ewJ9_kk

I hope your houseguest has turned up by now. And I know how you feel, I absolutely hate it when someone is late arriving from anywhere, on any mode of transportation!

Posted by: nellie4 | June 22, 2010 11:02 PM | Report abuse

bc, aside from the obvious in the Rolling Stone piece, the remarks by the troops the reporter interviewed really shook me. I think the article will make folks question a lot more than just the general's and his subordinates' statements.

Posted by: talitha1 | June 22, 2010 11:02 PM | Report abuse

The sneeze at the end is NOT mrsyellojkt. She was hiding in the gift shop out of mortal shame over how I was shaming the family name.

The camera lady was one of three ladies of a certain age WHO was wearing a tie dye shirt and claimed to have seen The Eagles when they were somebody's opening act in the early 70s. My videographer angel refused to have her name or picture taken, so her contribution to musical history will have to remain forever anonymous.

Posted by: yellojkt | June 22, 2010 11:06 PM | Report abuse

I've asked him, DNA_Girl, but haven't received word. I suspect his departure is meant to be permanent, given how cranky the Boodle has been for weeks.

Posted by: Yoki | June 22, 2010 11:09 PM | Report abuse

DNA_Girl, I cannot find where you posted a link to a NYT article on end of life issues. There are lots of end of life articles in the Times -- could you post it again? Thanks.

Posted by: nellie4 | June 22, 2010 11:09 PM | Report abuse

Heatstroke, humidity, tornado watches, and sweat bees will do that to anybody's mood, Yoki.

Posted by: Wilbrod_Gnome | June 22, 2010 11:20 PM | Report abuse

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/06/20/magazine/20pacemaker-t.html?ref=magazine

Posted by: DNA_Girl | June 22, 2010 11:28 PM | Report abuse

Thank you.

Posted by: nellie4 | June 22, 2010 11:34 PM | Report abuse

speaking of bees:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LDyESy-ny9Q

Posted by: -jack- | June 22, 2010 11:58 PM | Report abuse

I love this song.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FNg3jjmVQDQ&feature=related

At least here the walls aren't cheap.

Posted by: yellojkt | June 22, 2010 11:58 PM | Report abuse

i think it's dead, jim.

Posted by: -jack- | June 23, 2010 12:28 AM | Report abuse

yep.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OR5v4yyPV6Y&feature=related

Posted by: -jack- | June 23, 2010 12:44 AM | Report abuse

on kit. in the most obtuse way. lyrics nsfw. neil drops the f bomb.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ewKdLEBcHRQ&feature=related

Posted by: -jack- | June 23, 2010 1:00 AM | Report abuse

Saith the jkt, "Relative humidity is the ratio of how much water is in the air to the amount of water it can hold."

To get ever-so-slightly pedantic, you ought to add a bit of "all things being equal" in there.

If for some reason it amuses you to do so, you can create situations in which there's a heck of a lot more water vapor suspended in a given quantity of air than would typically be the case.

Posted by: Bob-S | June 23, 2010 2:11 AM | Report abuse

It's not relevant to this part of the discussion, but it's worth remembering that (all things being equal, even though they rarely are...) water vapor is lighter than an equivalent volume of dry air. (Which, given that water is composed largely of the lightest element, and that dry air has very little of it, probably shouldn't be all that surprising.)

Occasionally, this can lead to some interesting consequences.

Posted by: Bob-S | June 23, 2010 2:35 AM | Report abuse

I'm not fully backBoodled, but I'm fairly sure Yoki does have a hat.

A red one, no doubt. :-)

And NukeSpawn is safely ensconsed in the guest bedroom. She might, just possibly, rouse herself in time for the U.S. - Algeria match at 10. *L*

*waiting-for-the-caffeine-to-kick-in Grover waves* :-)

Posted by: Scottynuke | June 23, 2010 5:37 AM | Report abuse

Okay, it's the ratio of water vapor partial pressure to the saturation pressure at that temperature. Interestingly, it is independent of air pressure (or its proxy, altitude) since it is just a gaseous mixture that behaves according to Dalton's Law.

Posted by: yellojkt | June 23, 2010 5:41 AM | Report abuse

Here is another NSFW video from the late great Warren Zevon which is metaphorically applicable to a lot of current topics: The Gulf, Afghanistan, etc.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qHDdqubE7zQ

Posted by: yellojkt | June 23, 2010 5:46 AM | Report abuse

Congrats on the arrival of the NukeSpawn. I think that game is at 9:30, so you better start blowing the vuvuzela a little early.

Posted by: yellojkt | June 23, 2010 5:49 AM | Report abuse

*waving back* at Scottynuke and *beaming* at all the children safely home in bed.

Bee! I'm expecting you!
Was saying yesterday
To someone you know
That you were due.

The frogs got home last week,
Are settled, and at work;
Birds, mostly back,
The clover warm and thick.

You'll get my letter by
The seventeenth; reply
Or better, be with me,
Yours, Fly.

Emily Dickinson

Posted by: talitha1 | June 23, 2010 6:29 AM | Report abuse

Good morning, all, hi Cassandra! Did you get any rain last night? I saw that there were storms in your area.

Sweat bees: yes, I remember them at my grandparents' house. They were definitely a country thing, I never recall them in the city. Quite small and didn't sting, but a real annoyance on a warm day when we were sitting and/or playing in the yard.

Thanks for the definition of dew point, Yello. That wasn't in the curriculum when I studied meteorology in the eighth grade so I've never really known what it was. Makes sense now.

Busy day, so onward.

Posted by: slyness | June 23, 2010 7:58 AM | Report abuse

Good morning, Boodlies!

Meanwhile in Santiago. As usual, fans gathered on Plaza Italia to celebrate. This time the victory over Switzerland.

As usual, hooligans began destroying property and demolishing the nice, sheltered bus stops.

As usual there weren´t enough police to prevent this. As usual, the huge guanacos (water canon trucks) had to be used to disperse rioters.

On Friday Chile plays Spain. Should Chile lose, people will riot. If Chile wins, people will riot.

Police says 1,000 cops will be present at Plaza Italia two and a half hours before the game starts. They will search back packs for rocks, prohibit parking in the area to reduce the number of targets. TV covers the riots live, which extends peak audience by a couple of hours after the game and brings in a lot of advertizing revenue.

On Friday TV will cover the police deployment live, too. That will give us at least five hours of entertainment interrupted only by a barrage of commercials.

Brag :)

Posted by: Braguine | June 23, 2010 8:05 AM | Report abuse

Brag! *waving* Let us hope for a draw -- no rioting in that case, yes? :-)

And insert your own Spiderman joke here:

The Boom Mender
Pete Parker Patches Urgently Needed Boom

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/06/23/us/23boom.html

*caffeine-slowly-working-its-magic Grover waves* :-)

Posted by: Scottynuke | June 23, 2010 8:21 AM | Report abuse

Snuke,waving back!
You betay hopeless optimism :)

My oversight. A tie is also reason to riot. Chile would classify for second round anyway.

Brag

Posted by: Braguine | June 23, 2010 8:35 AM | Report abuse

I prefer relentless optimism, Brag. :-)

Posted by: Scottynuke | June 23, 2010 8:37 AM | Report abuse

NHew kit!

Posted by: Raysmom | June 23, 2010 8:38 AM | Report abuse

Up there in the sky. It's a bird, it's a plane, it's a NEW KIT!

Posted by: MsJS | June 23, 2010 8:38 AM | Report abuse

New kit.

Posted by: Boomslang | June 23, 2010 8:39 AM | Report abuse

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