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Stephen Strasburg to exploit Heisenberg Uncertainty Principle

Tonight's the night: The debut of Nationals phenom Stephen Strasburg, who, I am here to report, is so good he has actually been under-hyped. Yes, there have been endless articles comparing him to Walter Johnson, Sandy Koufax and Roger Clemens, and Boswell says his 98-mph slider is his third-best pitch. But what no one has mentioned is the most devastating part of the Strasburg arsenal: He can throw with either arm.

He's unpredictable. Batters have to study him on the mound to figure out if he's shifting the glove to his left or right hand. He's SNEAKY.

That's the difference between the merely great athletes and the ones that have their faces carved on Mount Rushmore: The all-timers are much, much, much sneakier. Greg Maddux in his prime would throw a baseball only half the size of a regulation ball -- totally unhittable. In the year he set a standard with a 1.12 ERA, Bob Gibson would go to the mound paired with a second pitcher who looked identical. You wouldn't know which one would actually pitch the ball. That's the stuff of greatness, my friends.

Strasburg officially has four pitches, but if you watch closely he really has more like 16, including:

* The greaseball. Some pitchers dab a little this or that on the ball to change its flight path, but Strasburg throws a ball that looks like it just came out of the Gulf of Mexico.

* The kneecapper. Old-school pitch. Strasburg's too classy to throw at a batter's head but he has literally amputated a few limbs in the minors this year.

* The stopper. Halfway to home the ball just stops in mid-air. After the batter walks away, confused, the ball completes the trip to the catcher's mitt. Usually only works a couple of times a game.

* The Heisenberger. Other pitchers have throwing mechanics, Strasburg has quantum mechanics. The ball's location and velocity cannot be simultaneously determined. It'll seem to be down the middle but in a quantum fluctuation it's behind the batter's back.

I have tickets to the game, and I'm going to bring my camera, my binoculars, my radar gun, my sextant, my astrolabe, my marine chronometer and, in case I become somehow submerged in beer, my periscope.

I'm not sure how good the seats are, but I'm hoping for something actually in the field of play. Ideally my seat will be so good that people will think I'm the shortstop.

By Joel Achenbach  |  June 8, 2010; 9:32 AM ET
 
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Comments

If anyone would have an astrolabe, it would be Achenbach.

Posted by: byoolin1 | June 8, 2010 10:23 AM | Report abuse

You should write about sports more often boss, and not just to escape from the oil mess. Made me want to see the game, and that's really saying something as I have 0 interest in the Nats.

Posted by: frostbitten1 | June 8, 2010 10:24 AM | Report abuse

He's so underhyped his name is misspelled as STRAUSBURG on the web-page headline.

Posted by: EdSantaFe | June 8, 2010 10:25 AM | Report abuse

Johan Straussburg is a pitcher now?

Posted by: steveboyington | June 8, 2010 10:27 AM | Report abuse

Schrödinger's Nats?

Posted by: Jumper1 | June 8, 2010 10:28 AM | Report abuse

Let's pray Johan Straussburg is not the Walks King.

Posted by: steveboyington | June 8, 2010 10:29 AM | Report abuse

*snort*

Posted by: yellojkt | June 8, 2010 10:30 AM | Report abuse

Yup. Mudged myself, yet again. This must be some kinda record.

Reposting:

Honored Sensei, the deck on that link describes TdC as an "obscure" Jesuit priest. To whom may this unworthy soul vent his umbrage? (Knowing that Sensei and TdC wouldn't approve.)

Also, it is with extremely mixed feelings that I present this book for your consideration: http://www.amazon.com/Spirituality-Dummies-Sharon-Janis/dp/0470191422

I suppose it was bound to happen sooner or later. I await publication of "Fermat's Last Theorem" for dummies.

Incidentally, in our continuing discussion of the Steig Larsson series, for those who have not read any of it, in the second book (do I have that right?), Salander develops an interest in higher mathematics and spherical astronomy (which has nothing whatsoever to do with the plot; it's what she reads for kicks). She becomes interested in Fermat's Last Theorem...and solves it in her head!! Not only does she solve it, but she discovered how Fermat himself solved it way back when, without the use of computers. And she has this phenomenal epiphany, and one day says, out of the blue, "Oh, yeah! That's how he did it." And then goes on about her business. (Larsson, of course, never gives us that answer; he merely says she solved it.)

Later, she receives a severe head injury, which may have damaged the mathematical portion of her brain. When she recovers, she seems to have forgotten the solution. I loved it.

Posted by: curmudgeon6 | June 8, 2010 10:27 AM | Report abuse

*sigh* They just need to let that poor kid pitch. No one needs this kind of pressure on his first day in the Show.

Posted by: curmudgeon6 | June 8, 2010 10:32 AM | Report abuse

If the pitch achieves quantum twinning, is it possible for it to be both a strike and a home run?

Posted by: yellojkt | June 8, 2010 10:32 AM | Report abuse

Spelled both ways on the front page,
to be sure.

Posted by: shrink2 | June 8, 2010 10:34 AM | Report abuse

To build on something CqP said in the last boodle. I feel that JA and yello are paying attention so I don't have to, and I thank them for it. It's the lazy person's way of living with it, but there it is. If I thought as much about it as they obviously do I doubt I could get out of my PJs and on with the day each morning.

Besides, I have to think about bears-an update on the now orphaned bear cub (abandoned by mom)
http://www.bear.org/website/lily-a-hope/live-den-cam/507-hope-is-becoming-a-bear-.html

Posted by: frostbitten1 | June 8, 2010 10:36 AM | Report abuse

Wow. That dragon tattoo girl is hyper-competent enough to be a Heinlein heroine.

Posted by: yellojkt | June 8, 2010 10:36 AM | Report abuse

Frosti -- yes. I have been for years a Teilhardian channeling cheerleader in enviro/eco/economics circles.

I am devastated about this. And, we will need a new DSM category soon: Environmental catastrophe-driven depression.

Posted by: CollegeQuaParkian1 | June 8, 2010 10:41 AM | Report abuse

Literally, to die for: http://www.comcast.net/slideshow/news-deadlydessert/?cid=hero_mainlink

Posted by: curmudgeon6 | June 8, 2010 10:41 AM | Report abuse

I wish Strasburg well.

Mr. A, have fun with your choice of seating. Be sure to duck on those 5-4-3 double plays.

Posted by: MsJS | June 8, 2010 10:43 AM | Report abuse

Mudge, the mudging is proof of many things, primarily that you and JA are vibrating together. And somehow, the wires are a bit crossed. JA means to post a new kit AFTER you post something splendid and lengthy.

Get RT on this right away. Can we get a cosmic IT dude? My kingdom for a transistor? Vacuum tube? Buss fuse?

Posted by: CollegeQuaParkian1 | June 8, 2010 10:44 AM | Report abuse

"I am devastated about this. And, we will need a new DSM category soon: Environmental catastrophe-driven depression."

Worth posting twice.

Posted by: frostbitten1 | June 8, 2010 10:45 AM | Report abuse

I've heard Rodriguez has had a third and fourth arm surgically attached so he can catch both of the quantum pitches and throw out two runners at once.

Posted by: Scottynuke | June 8, 2010 10:47 AM | Report abuse

What does baseball have to do with killer blue meth?

Posted by: aprilglaspie | June 8, 2010 10:48 AM | Report abuse

And in other Boodle-sports news:

http://www.nytimes.com/reuters/2010/06/08/sports/sports-us-soccer-world.html

Posted by: Scottynuke | June 8, 2010 10:49 AM | Report abuse

Exactly why is Joel bringing astroglide to a baseball game? Is the lube a component of the greaseball pitch? Oh, astroLABE!

Nevermind.

Posted by: yellojkt | June 8, 2010 10:49 AM | Report abuse

BPolar disorder.

Panic-depressive.

Ixtoxicity

Heinous envy

Posted by: curmudgeon6 | June 8, 2010 10:52 AM | Report abuse

I will now forever think Stephen Strasburg but SEE Andre Rieu playing in front of thousands of blue-haired ladies. I blame myself.

Posted by: steveboyington | June 8, 2010 10:52 AM | Report abuse

Physics goes only so far. We need to look at evolutionary pitching, keeping sneakily ahead of ever-more-competent batters. Regrettably, John Maynard Smith is no longer around to help.

Posted by: DaveoftheCoonties | June 8, 2010 10:54 AM | Report abuse

Obsessive-spill-cleanup disorder?

Posted by: Scottynuke | June 8, 2010 10:55 AM | Report abuse

I think BPolar Disorder. I should have stopped right there.

Anybody got the folks at DSM-V on speed dial?

Posted by: curmudgeon6 | June 8, 2010 10:56 AM | Report abuse

Attention DNA-Girl & Wilbrodog!!!

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/dcsportsbog/2010/06/the_strasburg_haiku_contest.html

Posted by: Scottynuke | June 8, 2010 10:57 AM | Report abuse

RD's comment last kit:

I think Joel's 3:17 says it best and that's all I have to say. Except "Joel 3:17" sounds kind of like a Bible verse.

Well, RD, Joel just isn't a bible name. Maybe we can adjust with a title:

"Joel the Aforementioned"

Posted by: russianthistle | June 8, 2010 10:58 AM | Report abuse

All that says is that the author knows nearly nothing about math and was going for an easy "impressive" cliche for her mathematical prowness.

I'd be more impressed by a lot of other less well-known problems in math like the Goldbach conjecture-- not solving it, but working on it and seeing the flaws on present proofs and having an original thought about how to solve it...

Heck, Just rocking out with Rudy Rucker in her reading would prove some real math chops-- like "Mathematicans in Love."

Fermat's last theorem has a proof already-- it's a statistical proof, done with lots of computing power, and it's not really made mathematicans happy. Then Andrew Wiles and others proved it in 1994.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fermat%27s_last_theorem

But glad you liked it; after all in the 23th century Captain Picard was still trying to prove it-- airdate: 5 years before it was proved.

Super-powers are fun, but quickly get outdated by reality.


Posted by: Wilbrod_Gnome | June 8, 2010 11:00 AM | Report abuse

Oh, come on, Steve. Andre Rieu has NO pick-off move to first base.

Posted by: curmudgeon6 | June 8, 2010 11:00 AM | Report abuse

Mudge, when I pitched (attempted to pitch?) in high school that was the only way I could get people out. I once pitched an inning where I walked the leadoff guy, then picked him off. Walked the second guy and picked him off. Walked the third guy, who was thrown out trying to steal.

My coach didn't know whether to congratulate me or slap me.

Posted by: steveboyington | June 8, 2010 11:16 AM | Report abuse

Wilbrod-the point of using Fermat in the book was that she knew there was a proof, even had easy access to it, but still worked on proving it herself. It just showed she took as a fun parlor game, or more accurately light beach reading, something most people couldn't understand. Fermat may be a cliche, but it saved pages of tedious set up.

Posted by: frostbitten1 | June 8, 2010 11:18 AM | Report abuse

Sounds like you need to give Dice-K a few tips, steveboyington... *L*

Posted by: Scottynuke | June 8, 2010 11:18 AM | Report abuse

If Mr.A covered baseball I'd become a reader of the sports pages. It's an epiphany. I'm melllllllllllting.

Now I'll backboodle for your eloquences.

Posted by: talitha1 | June 8, 2010 11:19 AM | Report abuse

Debase my haikus
for a baseball fan contest?
...Do I get a ball?

-Wilbrodog-

Get Fuzzy's "Steve" thinks
Strasburg's power is genius.
Kitty ain't psychic.

-Wilbrodog-

Summer and dog's warm
Fresh water, baseball haikus
... but no ball. What gives?

-Wilbrodog-

Posted by: Wilbrod_Gnome | June 8, 2010 11:19 AM | Report abuse

Sauce on for lunchtime pasta feast. Mudge, it's a "fridge special." Two halves of farmer's market tomatoes that were originally sacrificed for BLT's and sandwiches; some celery; eight green olives stuffed with marinated garlic (sliced); 4 or 5 small kalamata olives (sliced); a bunch of spring onions that had "seen better days"; 5 small cloves of garlic, minced--all sauteed in olive oil along with healthy doses of parsley, oregano and basil... a good shake of cayenne and crushed red pepper flakes along with some sea salt.

This was followed into the pan with a small can of tomato paste which I allowed to saute for 2 or 3 minutes. This was followed by 3 or 4 cups of my homemade onion soup (with onions). Then, a large jar of Safeway Arrabbiata sauce (wanted to try and had a taste... not bad!). Finally, a large can of crushed tomato sauce and a bit more water.

I seasoned and grilled off a lb and half of country style pork ribs while the sauce came up to temperature. I cut the ribs into thirds for ease of serving and tossed them into the simmering sauce pot.

After about 20 minutes, the sauce is at a lower heat and quietly becoming a wonderful pasta friend.

I might even be able to slide in a bike ride before lunch. If you are in the neighborhood, drop by!

Posted by: russianthistle | June 8, 2010 11:21 AM | Report abuse

Fermat seems to have been one of those nice 17th century French gentlemen. Something like Réaumur (who did insects).

[Looks like University of South Florida scientists have convincingly shown there's subsurface oil plumes in the Gulf. And Florida State scientists are swarming Louisiana. Kind of nice to have enterprising people from a variety of institutions glomming onto various parts of the oily mess].

Now back to scientific baseball.

Posted by: DaveoftheCoonties | June 8, 2010 11:26 AM | Report abuse

Does Strasburg have a nickname yet? Cy-burg?

Sweet Caroline?, no.
The sweetest ballpark music
Strasburg popping mitts.

Posted by: steveboyington | June 8, 2010 11:29 AM | Report abuse

Joel, did you intentionally forget Nolan Ryan? The guy used to roll an entire Snap-On tool chest to the mound when he pitched. Didn't doctor baseballs as much as reengineer them (the lathe and hydraulic press gave it away).

Hey, you know me, all about the Uncertainty and ambiguity. And I'm pretty sure that as long as any pitcher can generate both in a hitter's head, he's going to do well. Well, that and 100+ mph heat and a curve that drops a foot between the front of the plate and the the catcher (make sure Pudge wears his cup, eh?).

As a gladiator, I was interested to see this. And glad I still have a secure place to put my helmet.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/06/07/AR2010060702242.html?hpid=sec-world

bc

Posted by: -bc- | June 8, 2010 11:30 AM | Report abuse

Ah, Frostbitten. Still seems cliched to me. Tedious set-ups aren't always necessary for complex concepts as long as the writer knows the point he wants to make by using this, which is why I referred to Rudy Rucker.

But I'll illustrate an easy "set-up" written by myself.

"Goldbach's conjecture: Every even number above 2 is a sum of primes. So obviously true, yet so devilishly hard to prove, like love."

How would this make her character different from just trying to prove what others have proven, just to show she can do it too, like some kind of a genius little sister with serious self-esteem issues?

The point is not the theorem. The point is why she wants to work with it.

Posted by: Wilbrod_Gnome | June 8, 2010 11:31 AM | Report abuse

Steve, you gotta be a southpaw, right? (No offense, Wilbrodog.)

Andre Rieu? Now here's somebody who has all the moves. All of them. (Credit omni with the assist on this one.) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ANZ45vCCUe0

Posted by: curmudgeon6 | June 8, 2010 11:31 AM | Report abuse

He's so under-hyped that he has only one town in Virginia named after him.

Posted by: justmike | June 8, 2010 11:33 AM | Report abuse

As I mentioned in the last 'boodle, my wife and son will be in attendance at the Nats game this evening. Which is why, to beat traffic, I actually plan on leaving work yesterday.

I am led to believe that they got some good seats. My wife ordered them about 15 seconds after the date was announced. Also, I am forbidden from looking at our credit card bill.

Now, that they are going and I am not is my own preference. I find it difficult to actually sit still and watch an entire baseball game. And about the seventh time you push your way past the other people in the row just to "stretch their legs" they can get a little cranky and want to break them instead.

So it's cool with me that I am staying home with the daughter and watch the adventures of Bella, Jacob, and Edward. I will probably be able to catch most of the game on television anyway. (You know, that thing that has replays.)

I also consider staying home a public service because it clears the field for the True Baseball Fans.

I just hope the game is up to the hype. I don't want my wife and son to come home and complain about a what boring mess it was.

The only thing worse would be for them to complain that some guy with celestial navigation equipment kept blocking their view.

Posted by: RD_Padouk | June 8, 2010 11:38 AM | Report abuse

SCC: I mean "stretch your legs." Their legs are their own business.

Posted by: RD_Padouk | June 8, 2010 11:40 AM | Report abuse

I think Fermat is fair game. Remember, his marginal note was something like "I have a found a simple and elegant proof, but there is not enough space here." The known proofs are far from simple or elegant (so I hear -- not my field), thus Fermat's Last Theorem remains a significant problem -- was Fermat simply that much smarter than the rest of us (probably true)? or was he in error (probably also true)? If Fermat was correct, then he had a startling stroke of genius that enabled him to leapfrog a couple centuries of increasing mathematical sophistication and complexity and grasp the "simple and elegant" answer. Assuming Fermat was actually right, it is not unreasonable to propose a fictional character who could do the same thing.

Posted by: ScienceTim | June 8, 2010 11:41 AM | Report abuse

Baseball! has been verra good to me. I look forward, in late innings, to seeing Strasburg's Schrodinger pitch - is it a baseball? is it not a baseball?

Lunch at Weed's! I'll bring some olives and green salad.

frostbitten, thanks for the bear update. I'm glad little Hope is foraging well. Today I needed more bears.

poison ivy, the scourge of the land: like RD, I can become ill merely by inhaling the stuff. Herbicides all the way, here. Someone makes a spray-on anti-poison ivy herbicide in a handy spray bottle that really works. I highly recommend it.

I finally read the second Larssen book and will start the last one soon. Wilbrod, if you haven't read the Larssen book and its use of Fermat's theorem, then you aren't going to understand how it is used in relation to that particular character. Your comments and conjecture on it make no sense to anyone who has read the book.

Posted by: Ivansmom | June 8, 2010 11:45 AM | Report abuse

Southpaws rule, Mudge.
Been known to be one myself
when flipping switches.

-Wilbrodog-

Posted by: Wilbrod_Gnome | June 8, 2010 11:46 AM | Report abuse

I just hope the crowd tonight doesn't exceed the stadium's Chandrasekhar limit.

That would be bad.

Posted by: Scottynuke | June 8, 2010 11:46 AM | Report abuse

My Question is: Will this be considered his rookie year? Or since he is called up in June,is next year his rookie campaign?
With all the other rookies already playing a couple of months.
I guess you couldn't have picked a better team to debut against,the Pirates have been terrible for years. Unless it was against my O's.

On another sports note,I finally paid for my ravens season tickets today,and with the O's at 16-41,I am ready for the season to start soon.

One other thing,Congrats to the person who caught the biggest Fish yesterday.......I was very impressed!!!!!

Posted by: greenwithenvy | June 8, 2010 11:47 AM | Report abuse

Attention science nerds! I know you guys see Achenblog as a forum to amuse each other, but you could at least attempt to keep your ramblings relevant to the topic at hand. Like maybe something about Strasburg's tachyon pitch, which enables him to strike the batter out before he can get out of the dugout.

Posted by: justmike | June 8, 2010 11:48 AM | Report abuse

Yeah, SciTim. Simple and elegant is my beef with the proofs to date. Someone that could replicate Fermat's thought process would be a heckuva person.

"A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly."

Tattoo girl is well over half way there.

Posted by: yellojkt | June 8, 2010 11:50 AM | Report abuse

That footnote, "I have a found a simple and elegant proof, but there is not enough space here" was quoted in the book, Tim, and that's what Salander solved in her head.

Ya had to be there. It worked. And it was just a fun toss-off, just like it was a toss-off to have Picard working on it in Start Trek. It works because it has recognition value, even among non-experts. The point wasn't just that she found the proof that Wile found-- it was that she found the "elegant" one Fermat couldn't squeeze into the margin.

The beauty part was she forgot it. That was Larsson being playful. It was a kind of joke. You're supposed to laugh, not nit-pick it.

Posted by: curmudgeon6 | June 8, 2010 11:51 AM | Report abuse

That kid might be a quantum mechanics genius but he will play only every for days. And of course that kneecapper or that 98mph slider may by a little hard on the old elbow or shoulder ligaments. That may mean an early retirement for Mr. Wonderful. (Any nickname yet?)
The Nats needs so many better guys at so many positions they should show him around a bit than exchange him for a handful of better everyday players. Let another town wonder at the Heisenberg.
Wasn't it Phil Niekro who was throwing the Heisenberg back in the days? I think I saw him pitched against the old Nats/Spos at the big-O back in the late seventties...

Posted by: shrieking_denizen | June 8, 2010 11:52 AM | Report abuse

Relevance? We don' need no steeekin' relevance!

:-)

Posted by: Scottynuke | June 8, 2010 11:53 AM | Report abuse

The Goldbach Variations. Not gauge-invariant

Posted by: Jumper1 | June 8, 2010 11:53 AM | Report abuse

More on uncertain/dodgy oil flow numbers:
http://blogs.nature.com/news/thegreatbeyond/2010/06/deepwater_horizon_fuzzy_number.html

Not encouraging.

Posted by: DaveoftheCoonties | June 8, 2010 11:54 AM | Report abuse

Somebody explain the rules (or lack thereof) to the newbie.

Posted by: curmudgeon6 | June 8, 2010 11:56 AM | Report abuse

SCC THEN exchange him...

Posted by: shrieking_denizen | June 8, 2010 11:59 AM | Report abuse

Greenwith, he will be a rookie this year or next. It depends on how many innings he throws or appearances he makes.

I think the Nats are hoping for this year.

Posted by: steveboyington | June 8, 2010 11:59 AM | Report abuse

My last post was terrible. I'll try again. He is a rookie this year. He may also qualify as a rookie next year, if he doesn't pitch many innings or get many appearances. I bet the Nats hope he gets them in this year.

Posted by: steveboyington | June 8, 2010 12:01 PM | Report abuse

Now, if Strasburg can master the neutrino pitch, he'll literally be unhittable...

Posted by: Scottynuke | June 8, 2010 12:03 PM | Report abuse

He'd be uncatchable, as well, so perhaps that's not the best idea...

Posted by: Scottynuke | June 8, 2010 12:07 PM | Report abuse

shriek in the 70s I saw both Phil Niekro when he was with the Braves and his brother Joe with the Cubbies. Didn't have great seats for the Phil Niekro game, second deck over top of 3rd baseball, but even from up there you could see that thing wobble all over the place. Phil was the winningest knuckleballer of all time, though from everything I read, it was Hoyt Wilhelm who had the best one. I never saw Wilhelm pitch, but wish I had.

Some great quotes:

"Trying to hit him (Phil Niekro) is like trying to eat Jell-O with chopsticks." – Bobby Murcer, who batted only .208 with no home runs (all 10 of his hits were singles) in 48 career at-bats against Niekro.

On Niekro's knuckleball:

"It's like watching Mario Andretti park a car." – Ralph Kiner

"Trying to hit that thing is a miserable way to make a living," and "I work for three weeks to get my swing down pat and Phil (Niekro) messes it up in one night." – both quotes by Pete Rose

"It giggles as it goes by," and "When I swing, don't laugh." – both quotes by Rick Monday

"Hitting Niekro's knuckleball is like eating soup with a fork." - Richie Hebner

"The way to catch a knuckleball is to wait until it stops rolling and then pick it up." - Bob Uecker

Posted by: curmudgeon6 | June 8, 2010 12:08 PM | Report abuse

justmike -

I assure you that all our posts are always exceedingly relevant to the topic at hand. The problem is that one must view them from the perspective of Minkowski space to deduce this.

Posted by: RD_Padouk | June 8, 2010 12:11 PM | Report abuse

'Zactly. Were you complaining when baseball was discussed during an oil kit? One boodle is the sum of many kits.

May I suggest a *SPOILER* notice for posts about the SL books? /ducking/

Posted by: -dbG- | June 8, 2010 12:17 PM | Report abuse

Okay, Mudge. Sometimes light writing humor doesn't translate well out of context.

I've had Robert Jordan readers try and explain the great situational humor and I just go.. "not enough reason for me to read THAT." Still haven't and refuse to read a Jordan book-- those books are so heavy that they make Harry Potter books look wimpy, and the beefcakes with swords on them don't look promising either.

I still think somebody that young and hip wouldn't be wasting her time with Fermat's... but yes, makes sense as a shaggy dog aside.

Come back, Wilbrodog. You can't go visit the one across the street, okay? Don't ask why, it's just how it is.


Posted by: Wilbrod_Gnome | June 8, 2010 12:19 PM | Report abuse

dbG, I am actually pretty sensitive to the "spoiler" issue, and try not to post anything that would constitute a spoiler. I gave away the punchline to the Fermat thing only because it wasn't remotely close to a plot point, and was even so subtle I nearly missed it myself. For instance, I would never have mentioned the part where Salander goes on "So You Think You Can Dance" and and wins with a rumba.

Posted by: curmudgeon6 | June 8, 2010 12:22 PM | Report abuse

Ah, so the psychopath and nailgun were negligible? :)

Posted by: -dbG- | June 8, 2010 12:27 PM | Report abuse

...Someday even fictional dogs will solve it...

Furmat's last theorem:
Hypotenuse equation
only works in 2-D;
proved by triangles absent
in higher dimensions.

-Wilbrodog-


Posted by: Wilbrod_Gnome | June 8, 2010 12:27 PM | Report abuse

Baseball is such a civilized sport. Except in the City of Brotherly Love maybe.

http://www.myfoxphilly.com/dpp/sports/phillies/060710-child-seen-with-beer-at-phillies-game

The link "Vomiting Phillies Fan Pleads Guilty" is worth a visit, if you have a solid stomach that is. I really laughed out loud. Such a class act.

Posted by: shrieking_denizen | June 8, 2010 12:28 PM | Report abuse

I'm beginning to think there are websites out there for just about anything.

The Physics of Baseball:

http://webusers.npl.illinois.edu/~a-nathan/pob/

Posted by: RD_Padouk | June 8, 2010 12:28 PM | Report abuse

Living in an uncivilized city has its charms, shriek!

Posted by: -dbG- | June 8, 2010 12:32 PM | Report abuse

The psycho and the nailgun wasn't my post.

Posted by: curmudgeon6 | June 8, 2010 12:32 PM | Report abuse

To translate for justmike: At the Achenblog, every post is an open thread. Stick around give it a try.

Posted by: yellojkt | June 8, 2010 12:39 PM | Report abuse

My apologies. I've obviously misremembered the discussion.

Can I fax some buttercake, in remorse?

Posted by: -dbG- | June 8, 2010 12:39 PM | Report abuse

"One boodle is the sum of many kits"

dbG's theorem, a must for all newbies.

Posted by: talitha1 | June 8, 2010 12:39 PM | Report abuse

Padouk, the "Physics of Baseball" as a field of study goes back at least 20 years, to physicist Robert Adair's book of that name, circa 1990. It's now in its 3rd edition. I have the old first edition at home somewhere.

Posted by: curmudgeon6 | June 8, 2010 12:40 PM | Report abuse

Scotty, you're playing fast and loose with "literally unhittable." Every so often the bat or mitt will interact with that neutrino ball. Granted, not in our lifetime.

Posted by: Jumper1 | June 8, 2010 12:42 PM | Report abuse

The very funny sequel to The Front Fell Off:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mSujCHfvTb0

Posted by: yellojkt | June 8, 2010 12:42 PM | Report abuse

yellojkt, I need to compress 135 cubic meters of air per second and pump it to about 2500' deep into the vicinity of the spill. What kind of air handling equipment, and how many pumps will I need?

Posted by: Jumper1 | June 8, 2010 12:47 PM | Report abuse

I think justmike gets the boodle just fine.
"tachyon pitch"
*snort*

Posted by: frostbitten1 | June 8, 2010 12:48 PM | Report abuse

Well, Jumper, if you postulate a bat or mitt composed of neutron star material, MAYBE... :-)

Posted by: Scottynuke | June 8, 2010 12:50 PM | Report abuse

Math geeks all around
watching Strasburg on the mound
put up tori, please

Posted by: steveboyington | June 8, 2010 12:52 PM | Report abuse

Wow. It has been a looooong time since I encountered a gauge-invariance joke.

"In the beginning, God said 'Let the universe be gauge-invariant!' And there was light."

No, I never really got it, either. Not mathematically, at least.

Posted by: ScienceTim | June 8, 2010 12:54 PM | Report abuse

http://www.tampabay.com/news/environment/usf-noaa-scientists-confirm-presence-of-deepwater-oil-near-site-of/1100796

Scientists from the University of South Florida and NOAA "confirm the presence of subsurface oil" but haven't confirmed that it's from the Deepwater Horizon.

Now back once again to baseball.

Posted by: DaveoftheCoonties | June 8, 2010 12:56 PM | Report abuse

hey, I thought justmike got it fine, with that tachyon comment. Sounded like nerd humor to me.

Of course that might be because I don't know from tachyons.

I like that physics of baseball. Like the physics of curling site (still marked on my "favorites", it allows me to expand my lack of understanding to new and dizzying heights.

Posted by: Ivansmom | June 8, 2010 1:01 PM | Report abuse

I hear the train a comin'
It's rollin' 'round the bend,
And I ain't seen the sunshine,
Since, I don't know when ...

Posted by: LisaJain1 | June 8, 2010 1:03 PM | Report abuse

How many hours until the season finale of Glee?

Posted by: frostbitten1 | June 8, 2010 1:05 PM | Report abuse

Ai chihuahua --

A vintage Navy biplane flipped over on landing at National... with a WaPo reporter onboard running a video camera!!

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/video/2010/06/08/VI2010060802370.html

:-O

Posted by: Scottynuke | June 8, 2010 1:18 PM | Report abuse

Buttercake is always welcome, even though you've done nothing wrong.

Posted by: curmudgeon6 | June 8, 2010 1:22 PM | Report abuse

Lionel Messi
could score with either foot…or
hand in number 10,
in the 'beautiful game';
there are more ways to play ball?

Posted by: DNA_Girl | June 8, 2010 1:27 PM | Report abuse

I calculate the de Broglie wavelength of the Strasburg fastball to be 1.02 x 10^-25 nanometers. Please check my work.

Posted by: YoungJimmy | June 8, 2010 1:28 PM | Report abuse

Either the pilot and reporter are very cool cucumbers or they edited the screams out of the video. Glad no one got hurt, awesome video.

dbG, it was I who mentioned the nailgun and probably the psycho as well. I believe ftb, Mudge and I were discussing something about the book. I don't think that mention gave away anything - well, maybe sort of...if so I'm sorry, my lips are sealed. I loved the part about solving the math thingy, even tho' I know nothing at all about it. Some of us do crosswords or jigsaw puzzles, others solve big math problems, just a matter of grey matter (or is that gray?).

Posted by: badsneakers | June 8, 2010 1:30 PM | Report abuse

Actually I think there are a couple of ways to counteract the Heisenberger.

One of which would involve a bat with a Many-Worlds interface, which allows the batter to move to a convenient Multiverse, that has a timeline where he actully hits the ball.

Another involves some recent experimentation at UC Santa Barbarba and Pohang University in South Korea which showed that to some degree, quantum wave collapse - that is, the resolution of quantum Uncertainty to an actual event - can be undone, depending on how far the wave collapse has gone:

http://arxiv.org/PS_cache/arxiv/pdf/0903/0903.3077v1.pdf

Therefore, the quantum fluctuation and wave collapse that moved the ball from straight down the pipe to behind a batter's back can be rolled back in time (which is essentially a measurement of a sequence of events, right?) to somewhere between leaving Strasbourg's hand and it arriving at home plate, but allowing the sequence that ends with the ball's spacetime intersection with the swung bat. I guess this time loop can be rolled back and forth repeatedly (see the Many Worlds theory above) until arriving at the desired sequence of events.

I bet Jim Joyce and Armando Galarraga wish they had that kind of instant event replay available. (And the ability to roll back time just a scoosh.)

Next -- the Higgs Boson pitch, which trickles into and out of existence on the way to the plate, or the dark matter pitch which is non-baryonic in nature (let's call it the Photino Ball?) and will not interact with baryonic matter -- such as a bat (Bring on the juiceheads, they can't knock the cover off of something they can't hit).

bc

Posted by: -bc- | June 8, 2010 1:33 PM | Report abuse

Yikes, those two planes were Stearman biplanes we were talking about a few weeks ago. Who was it? talitha? Was that you and me?

Posted by: curmudgeon6 | June 8, 2010 1:33 PM | Report abuse

Less than 7.5 hours, frosti. Me, too.

Posted by: curmudgeon6 | June 8, 2010 1:35 PM | Report abuse

do not crowd the plate
or you may receive the dread
Heisentightberger

Posted by: steveboyington | June 8, 2010 1:35 PM | Report abuse

I believe that Strasburg also has a relativistic pitch. The ball becomes so massive that even if the batter hits it, it doesn't go anywhere.

Kind of hard on catchers, though.

Posted by: rashomon | June 8, 2010 1:38 PM | Report abuse

*applause for steveboyington's bon mot* :-)

Posted by: Scottynuke | June 8, 2010 1:40 PM | Report abuse

(garg) Ummmm - Heisenburgers...

Posted by: Jumper1 | June 8, 2010 1:41 PM | Report abuse

The truth of the matter is that Strasburg is unusual because not only does his fastball have blinding speed, but Strasburg has it as well. For example, he can pitch a 100-mile fastball and then run behind home plate, put on a catcher's outfit and catch the ball. This way, there is never any miscommunication between the catcher and the pitcher!

Posted by: theStockman | June 8, 2010 1:42 PM | Report abuse

I didn't much care for the Heisenburgers at Nat's Park. They cost way too much and don't even have grilled onions.

Posted by: rashomon | June 8, 2010 1:44 PM | Report abuse

//Buttercake is always welcome, even though you've done nothing wrong//

heh. Tell that to the users who are calling me non-stop about their downed system. I feel sorry for the analyst who caused/is fixing it. Butter cake on the way.

It's hard not to be excited about something you love, sneaks. :)

Posted by: -dbG- | June 8, 2010 1:50 PM | Report abuse

I wonder what it took the police in Chile to get Van der Sloot to "cooperate." I hope they can get him to cooperate on Natalie Holloway.

Brag, you there? Got any idea what the likely sentence for murder is in Peru? Even the notion of 10 or 15 years in a Peruvian prison is nothing short of terrifying.

Posted by: curmudgeon6 | June 8, 2010 1:52 PM | Report abuse

This was just posted a little while ago:

Early Stieg Larsson work uncovered in Sweden

By MALIN RISING
The Associated Press
Tuesday, June 8, 2010; 12:39 PM

STOCKHOLM -- Two early science fiction stories by the late crime novelist Stieg Larsson have been uncovered in Stockholm, the Swedish National Library said Tuesday.

The best-selling author sent the short stories to the Swedish science fiction magazine Jules Verne when he was 17, hoping to have them published, but the magazine rejected them.

The library received the stories, titled "The Crystal Balls" and "The Flies," as part of a private donation of the magazine's archives in 2007, library spokesman Hakan Farje said.

Larsson never had time to enjoy the success of his Millennium trilogy of crime novels, which have sold more than 20 million copies worldwide. He died in 2004 of a heart attack at age 50, a year before the first novel in the series, "The Girl With the Dragon Tattoo," was published in his native Sweden.

In the letter to the Jules Verne magazine, Larsson described himself as "a 17-year old guy from Umea with dreams of becoming an author and journalist," Farje said. He called the science fiction stories his "first tentative efforts" at writing.

Farje said the author's heirs should decide whether to publish the stories.

Larsson had originally planned to compose 10 books in the Millennium series and had written about half of a fourth book before he died. That work hasn't been published because of a legal battle over Larsson's estate between his brother and father and Larsson's longtime partner, Eva Gabrielsson.

Public access to material in the archive of the Swedish National Library is decided on a case-by-case basis, depending on the content. Farje said it was unclear if the public will get access to Larsson's work.

Posted by: curmudgeon6 | June 8, 2010 2:02 PM | Report abuse

Sorry 'mudge, I know I'm falling down on my liberal reputation, but the kid is a monster. I'm more worried about how terrified that poor girl was when he started beating her with a tennis racket.

Posted by: Yoki | June 8, 2010 2:02 PM | Report abuse

Buried in all this Heisenberg silliness is a relevant point. The Heisenberg Uncertainty Principle basically states that the process of observing the position of a particle will always change the velocity of the particle. Which means that you can't precisely know both at the same time.

One way to interpret this is that the very act of making a measurement disturbs the system being measured.

Well, apply the some notion to Strasburg. We want to observe his outstanding pitching. But, of course, in the process of observing his pitching we might actually be doing damage to his ability to pitch. That is, the stress and excitement associated with pitching in the Big Leagues while being watched by a bazillion or so eyeballs might, quite possibly, adversely affect his performance.

That really would be Heisenberg applied to Strasburg.

Posted by: RD_Padouk | June 8, 2010 2:08 PM | Report abuse

Shrink2, any comments?

I see the Dutch government believes he won't get a fair trial. While I'd like to say it all evens out in the end, I don't know all the facts. My deepest certainty is with Yoki, however.

One of my colleagues has a 15 month old son who fell off a couch and has a cerebral hematoma. He's been in the hospital for 2 weeks. All prayers and thoughts are appreciated.

Posted by: -dbG- | June 8, 2010 2:12 PM | Report abuse

You misread me, Yoki. I agree he's a monster. I just meant that 10 or 15 years in a Peruvian prison must be hell on earth. I never said he didn't deserve every moment of it. I don't feel sorry for him at all. I bet if he had a choice between Peru, Aruba or a U.S. jail, he'd take the U.S. in a heartbeat. But it isn't an option, thank goodness. I don't know if Aruba has a prison; if he'd confessed there, he might have gone to prison in the Netherlands.

I also only meant to imply that the guy survived at least two arrests in Aruba without saying a word, and he gets arrested in Chile for a crime in Peru, and confesses in a day or so. That's all.

Posted by: curmudgeon6 | June 8, 2010 2:16 PM | Report abuse

dbG,
My prayers go out.

Posted by: yellojkt | June 8, 2010 2:21 PM | Report abuse

Mudge, the maximum penalty in Peru for murder without "exceptional circumstances" -- meaning genocide, crimes in time of war, or charges under military law -- is 35 years. Sentences are frequently reduced if the accused confesses.

Posted by: rashomon | June 8, 2010 2:22 PM | Report abuse

No sorry, this has been a big face work day for me, I can only make noise when I am reading and writing. Also, I am only vaguely aware of this case, no TV.

Posted by: shrink2 | June 8, 2010 2:22 PM | Report abuse

dbG-keeping a good thought.

Posted by: frostbitten1 | June 8, 2010 2:23 PM | Report abuse

dbG, mojo all the way for the little guy.

'mudge, since his father was Attorney General on Aruba, I'm not surprised he survived arrest there. And I'm with dbG, it seems a bit ironic that the Dutch authorities are worried about fairness *now.*

Posted by: Yoki | June 8, 2010 2:27 PM | Report abuse

Thanks, I'll tell her.

Posted by: -dbG- | June 8, 2010 2:28 PM | Report abuse

I didn't realize his father was atty. gen. on Aruba.

I'm glad they got him on video going into and out of that hotel room.

Although I saw he was indicted for attempted extortion of the Holloways, I haven't followed the Aruba murder lately. Do they still think the other two guys were involved? Or just VDS alone?

Posted by: curmudgeon6 | June 8, 2010 2:39 PM | Report abuse

Totally wholly and utterly off topic, but ran across this the other day and loved it-

Rick Polito of the Marin Independent Journal printed in Northern California is locally famous for his droll, single-sentence summations of television programs and movies which the newspaper reports will be broadcast. For the Wizard of Oz, he wrote, "Transported to a surreal landscape, a young girl kills the first person she meets and then teams up with three strangers to kill again."

Posted by: kguy1 | June 8, 2010 2:44 PM | Report abuse

I don't know the answer to that question, 'mudge.

Posted by: Yoki | June 8, 2010 2:44 PM | Report abuse

He'll kill himself.

Posted by: teddymzuri | June 8, 2010 2:53 PM | Report abuse

kguy, Dorothy didn't either 'kill' or 'meet' the Witch of the East. The structural home-related accident that claimed Ms. East's life took place before she and Dorothy ever howdied.

But that's just my opinion.

Posted by: MsJS | June 8, 2010 2:54 PM | Report abuse

He'll kill himself.

Posted by: teddymzuri | June 8, 2010 2:54 PM | Report abuse

I just read the Wikipedia write-up on VDS. Very comprehensive, very informative. The brothers are free, due to same lack of evidence against VDS.

It gets worse, though: Between the two murders he seems to have been engaged in the sex trafficking business, and there's one theory that's what happened to Holloway.

Posted by: curmudgeon6 | June 8, 2010 2:56 PM | Report abuse

This column was funny. Unfortunately, not ha-ha funny. More sad funny.

Posted by: MorganAPhelan | June 8, 2010 2:57 PM | Report abuse

I love this incredibly well timed wackiness.

Posted by: churgin | June 8, 2010 2:58 PM | Report abuse

He might, teddy. Wiki says he's on suicide watch after attempting to bang his head against a wall. Of course, there may be an alternate explanation for alleged head injuries. Hard to tell.

Posted by: curmudgeon6 | June 8, 2010 3:01 PM | Report abuse

Au contraire, they met in the air. Dotty looks out the window during the flight and the nasty Miss Gulch pedals by, then returns as the cackling witch.

Posted by: kguy1 | June 8, 2010 3:01 PM | Report abuse

BP = Bankruptcy Protection ?

Sorkin at the NYT says it's not out of the question.
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/06/08/business/08sorkin.html

shrink, was it you who brought this up?

Posted by: MsJS | June 8, 2010 3:02 PM | Report abuse

k-guy- spew alert please.

Posted by: frostbitten1 | June 8, 2010 3:03 PM | Report abuse

kguy, Mis Gulch = Ms. W.W. West. The one under the house in Munchkinland was Ms. W.W. East.

Posted by: MsJS | June 8, 2010 3:04 PM | Report abuse

Hey Joel, don't forget the mini tv so you can check the nba and stanley cup finals. Maybe if your seat is good enough, you'll have access to a widescreen. Tonight's the night allright.

LET'S GO LAKERS!! !!!

Posted by: teddymzuri | June 8, 2010 3:09 PM | Report abuse

The witch spotted during the flight wuz wearing the durn ruby footgear that all the fuss wuz about, so I reckon she'd be the squishee.

Posted by: kguy1 | June 8, 2010 3:11 PM | Report abuse

teddy, Outside TWC there's a wonderful outdoor concert arena called Ravinia.

During the MJ era, many used to bring mini-TVs to the June concerts so they could watch the Bulls and listen to the live music.

It was comically eerie to see the little grayish glows throughout the pavilion. And folks would cheer at what was on TV rather than over what was on the stage.

Posted by: MsJS | June 8, 2010 3:17 PM | Report abuse

I love it when you talk technical, kguy. Tell me more.

Posted by: -dbG- | June 8, 2010 3:18 PM | Report abuse

Good memory, kguy.

But is that the same as meeting someone? Where I came from there had to be mutual howdys and names exchanged before we'd met.

Could be different in Oz, I suppose.

Then again, the whole color portion of the film was a dream, anyway.

Posted by: MsJS | June 8, 2010 3:24 PM | Report abuse

Early on in this tragic case, I heard thepossibility of her being konked on the head or drugged for the 90 mile boatride to Columbia to wake up to her unimaginable fate. Unless this were possible, why would the Holloway family offer this...person... a dime for any information.

Maybe they used a 'unthinkable' methods to extract a confession.

Posted by: teddymzuri | June 8, 2010 3:26 PM | Report abuse

MsJS, isn't Sting performing at Ravinia this summer? Please don't tell my wife.

Posted by: Enterprise1701 | June 8, 2010 3:28 PM | Report abuse

MsJS,

"...particularly as part of a merger that would enable it to cordon off its liabilities from the spill, is starting to percolate on Wall Street..."

Yes, but it percolated here first.

Posted by: shrink2 | June 8, 2010 3:35 PM | Report abuse

Enterprise, that would be July 17 and 18.

Reserved and lawn seats are long gone.

Posted by: MsJS | June 8, 2010 3:39 PM | Report abuse

LET'S GO LAKERS!! !!!
by: teddymzuri

I can't talk to you until this is settled...
on the court.

Posted by: shrink2 | June 8, 2010 3:40 PM | Report abuse

I thought it was you, shrink!

Posted by: MsJS | June 8, 2010 3:41 PM | Report abuse

Maybe the word should be "encounters" rather than "meets"-- certainly it was a rather deadly encounter with a farmhouse for Miz Gulch.

Still, that summary is worth some crushed sematics.

Posted by: Wilbrod_Gnome | June 8, 2010 3:45 PM | Report abuse

From Dictionary.com-
Meet:
1.to come upon; come into the presence of; encounter: I would meet him on the street at unexpected moments.

2.to become acquainted with; be introduced to: I've never met your cousin.

Obviously I am using definition 1 and you adhere to definition 2.

Posted by: kguy1 | June 8, 2010 3:47 PM | Report abuse

You gotta do what you gotta do, MsJS. Before I left Chicago, the dead were at soldier field during one of the first 3peats, so they put the game on the big screens...best of both worlds (Phil Jackson was backstage for the final show after business was finished!). I once refused to take my wife to a broncos game she had paid for cause the COWBOYS were playing philly for the division, now she knows better.

By the way, spent 10 years in LA tween Chicago and Denver.

Posted by: teddymzuri | June 8, 2010 3:47 PM | Report abuse

"Early on in this tragic case, I heard the possibility of her being konked on the head..."
When read as a continuation of the Oz discussion this is really funny. Sadly, it wasn't a continuation of the Oz discussion. I'm surprised I haven't heard from frostdottir today, she followed the Halloway case pretty obsessively for the first year or so.

Posted by: frostbitten1 | June 8, 2010 3:48 PM | Report abuse

Any folks in Cali following the GOP race? Does Fiorina seem remotely genuine? The things I have read and seen seem to indicate that she has learned well the "right" answers to about 10 questions that the GOP primary voters care about. It does not seem that she has any history showing evidence she means what she says.

Does that matter to the Cali GOP voters? We in NH are a bit more skeptical, I think.

Posted by: steveboyington | June 8, 2010 3:53 PM | Report abuse

Well it isn't like I thought it up by myself. I took the cue from Union Carbide, Johns Mansville, the list is long. It is the time honored method for sliding a company's assets sideways while the liabilities get focused on a name, not a wealth generating company.

Posted by: shrink2 | June 8, 2010 3:54 PM | Report abuse

I thought that too, frosti. I didn't comment because I haven't been following the Halloway story.

kguy, I see the distinction. Thanks.

teddy, I didn't know LA was between Chicago and Denver. Wow, the stuff one learns from the A-blog!

Posted by: MsJS | June 8, 2010 3:59 PM | Report abuse

RD, I like your insightful application of the Uncertainty Principle to Strasburg's Big Show pitching debut. I hope he can transcend the perils of science.

Posted by: Ivansmom | June 8, 2010 4:00 PM | Report abuse

Lazarus Long, yellowjkt?

DLD

Posted by: DLDx | June 8, 2010 4:00 PM | Report abuse

My extremely mild and totally inoffensive comment I made a few hours ago immediately bit me in the derriere; I lost internet service shortly afterwards and just got it back. Coincidence, maybe.

Posted by: justmike | June 8, 2010 4:02 PM | Report abuse

I believe Sting is coming here too but can't check at the moment.

Posted by: -dbG- | June 8, 2010 4:15 PM | Report abuse

Unfortuately, I have to work again tonight, so I can't see the start of the ball game. I'm hoping to be done about 8:30, so I can at least check on the status on WTOP on the way home. I'd just be happy if the kid gives us 5 decent innings with a chance to win. I expect it will take him at least a month to work into "Show" shape, including some work out on the road.

Posted by: ebtnut | June 8, 2010 4:15 PM | Report abuse

Oh, hey, MsJS, I know exactly where you're coming from. My Texas relations would frequently say of someone, "We've howdied but we ain't shook."

Posted by: kguy1 | June 8, 2010 4:17 PM | Report abuse

dbG, sending good thoughts to the little guy.

Posted by: Manon1 | June 8, 2010 4:18 PM | Report abuse

Hey, Mudge (from three hours ago - I've been in the loomtomb)

Yeah, it was the two of us discussing Stearmans awhile back. My daddy rebuilt and flew one, remember? That video gave me what Daddy called "a pucker factor of 10"!

Posted by: talitha1 | June 8, 2010 4:20 PM | Report abuse

Molly Ivins, she of Texas stock, would say the same thing, kguy.

Posted by: MsJS | June 8, 2010 4:21 PM | Report abuse

The Boodle works in mysterious ways, justmike...

*pointedly not looking in RD_P's direction* :-)

Posted by: Scottynuke | June 8, 2010 4:22 PM | Report abuse

hey justmike, glad you came back.

Posted by: Ivansmom | June 8, 2010 4:23 PM | Report abuse

Only in my life is LA between Chicago and Denver.

Posted by: teddymzuri | June 8, 2010 4:26 PM | Report abuse

Only in my life is LA between Chicago and Denver.

Posted by: teddymzuri | June 8, 2010 4:27 PM | Report abuse

Actually, it was far worse this morning, when I made the mistake of commenting on a story about the guy in Maryland who was sentenced to 4 months, along with a fine and CS, for killing a couple's dog by throwing it off a bridge. Several folks were outraged that he got off so lightly for murder. I tried to point out that killing a pet was not the same as murder, which seems reasonable to me, but not to those who accused me of being insane or worse. And I apologize to anyone I might have offended again for bringing it up.

Posted by: justmike | June 8, 2010 4:33 PM | Report abuse

*observing appropo of nothing and everything*

I am sitting here reading posts from folks all over the country about topics from baseball, oil spills, murder (real and Ozish), Texas howdies and Sting concerts. All the time I'm streaming programing from the radio station in Colorado where I once worked . . . . . and they're streaming to their listeners a live jazz concert from New Orleans where everyone's talking about the oil spill between sets. Unbelieveable!

My best mommy hugs to the wee lad, dbG.

Posted by: talitha1 | June 8, 2010 4:45 PM | Report abuse

SCC apropos
dang!

Posted by: talitha1 | June 8, 2010 4:48 PM | Report abuse

Should've quit while you were ahead, justmike. :)

Without going into murder vs killing, the short sentence is outrageous.

Posted by: -dbG- | June 8, 2010 4:57 PM | Report abuse

The St. Petersburg Times reports that Deepwater Horizon oil may have entered the Florida Straits. Models indicate that any such oil would go right past the southeast Florida metro area, in accordance with earlier suspicions that Miami Beach might get oiled long before St. Petersburg or the other southwestern Florida beaches.

Posted by: DaveoftheCoonties | June 8, 2010 5:09 PM | Report abuse

Justmike, the anger, impulsivity, and cruelty shown could be directed to a human being, and in fact this act was designed precisely to cause high distress to the owners-- sadistic.
The short sentence is outrageous, as dbG said. This guy may well reoffend again.

Posted by: Wilbrod_Gnome | June 8, 2010 5:14 PM | Report abuse

Note how a number of articles are saying "Dutch citizen" or the like instead of VDS's name. I wonder if that's a way of denying him the pleasure of seeing it.

I read he found the 2nd young woman reading his laptop, where he had many articles about the Holloway case bookmarked.

Posted by: -dbG- | June 8, 2010 5:15 PM | Report abuse

"...Miami Beach might get oiled long before St. Petersburg..."

From the fearless predictions dept., dispersant will never be used again but for small "spills" in certain circumstances.

Posted by: shrink2 | June 8, 2010 5:16 PM | Report abuse

Why am I flashing back to a regular part of the Rocky and Bullwinkle show?

Posted by: -dbG- | June 8, 2010 5:21 PM | Report abuse

Shrink, from your keyboard to *fill in the blank*'s ears.

Posted by: talitha1 | June 8, 2010 5:22 PM | Report abuse

You can come back, justmike. That's as bad as it gets.

Posted by: -dbG- | June 8, 2010 5:24 PM | Report abuse

Badenov, you numbskull!

Posted by: talitha1 | June 8, 2010 5:25 PM | Report abuse

Hi, y'all

Regarding the GOP primaries here in CA, who cares? The real elections will be in Nov, and we'll see then if they can be bought using the alternate reality of TV commercials. Now that TV has been around long enough to provide the secondary socialization for nearly everyone in the country, I fear the answer may be yes. In the irony department, there are two propositions on today's ballot each 98% funded by one company and designed specifically for that company's profit. The initiative process was created to overcome a company's ownership of the government!

Speaking of uncertainty about where the pitched ball will be next instant...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steve_Dalkowski

LTL-CA

Posted by: Jim19 | June 8, 2010 5:29 PM | Report abuse

Hokey smokes, das vierd!

Posted by: talitha1 | June 8, 2010 5:29 PM | Report abuse

Ok, last word from me on the dog case. My opinion, based on all the facts I saw, was that the sentence was fair. If you disagree, fine. My point was that equating what he did to murder, or speculating that he might have comitted an actual murder under different circumstances, is not valid. I'm sorry, but labelling the killing of a pet as murder is devaluing human life. But that's just my opinion.

Posted by: justmike | June 8, 2010 5:37 PM | Report abuse

"The oil is on the surface," Mr Hayward is quoted by AP as saying on 30 May. "There aren't any plumes."

Meanwhile, the Coast Guard yesterday maintained no one could have predicted the oil would disaggregate into hundreds of thousands of patches, sheens and slicks, or run under the booms miles into estuarine environments.

The Unified Command, the combined operation of British Petroleum and the United States government sure is having a hard time finding out where the greatest oil disaster in US history went. I wonder who controls, who posts and edits the content on their website?

Posted by: shrink2 | June 8, 2010 5:58 PM | Report abuse

shrink, maybe it's Boris Badenov.

Posted by: MsJS | June 8, 2010 6:03 PM | Report abuse

God loves us so much more than we can imagine through Him that died for all, Jesus Christ.

Hello, friends. JA, I'm still laughing. This guy must be an alien! He's that good? And with all the equipment you're carrying to the game, I can't wait for the report.

Just dropped by to say hello, and hope everyone is doing okay.

Slyness, saw your comment in the other kit. I'm glad you and Mr. T are having a good time.

Have a good evening, folks, and love to all.

Posted by: cmyth4u | June 8, 2010 6:04 PM | Report abuse

Jim19, I despise the primaries. Right now my disgust is more with the GOP, so I'll pick on them.

Here is my version of a GOP primary debate.

Moderator: Generic GOP primary candidate, what would you do if you discovered that your neighbor was a moderate?

Generic GOP primary candidate: I would go over there, carve his/her heart out of his/her chest cavity, and eat it whole in front of him/her. I would then take their possessions and distribute them evenly amongst real Republicans.

Pause as crowd goes wild.

Now, here is the debate in the general election.

Moderator: Generic GOP candidate, what are your thoughts on this generic issue.

Generic GOP candidate: This issue is a critical for all Americans. We must work together, in bipartisan fashion, to ensure that everyone is heard. I have a long history of reaching agreements with the people across the aisle. I will represent all of my constituents equally. We really need to come together for a golden loving solution.

Pause as crowd goes wild.

Posted by: steveboyington | June 8, 2010 6:21 PM | Report abuse

Batters will need to instantly figure out the eigenfuction to meet the ball.

Posted by: johng1 | June 8, 2010 6:30 PM | Report abuse

This is almost as worthless as when you write about your cats.

Sure wish you'd work for a living like the rest of us.

Posted by: billducks | June 8, 2010 6:33 PM | Report abuse

billducks, if your post was directed at Mr. A, let me assure you he does work for a living. Diligently and conscientiously, I would add.

As for the 'rest of us', well some of the 'rest of us' enjoy the humor here. You are free to disagree, of course. But rather than get persnickety about it, which hurts no one but yourself, you might want to find a blog more suited to your idea of fun.

Just a suggestion.

Posted by: MsJS | June 8, 2010 6:45 PM | Report abuse

Jeepers billducks, did your dog bit you today or something? Talk about gratuitous. If you would pay attention you would note that Joel has been working like a maniac lately on the BP oil story. This is a much needed respite for both him and us.

Sheesh.

Posted by: RD_Padouk | June 8, 2010 6:48 PM | Report abuse

justmike, first welcome!

dbG, best thoughts for your friends child, I remember doing a Lynn Swann type drive to catch my young daughter as she was falling from the couch, just happened to see her falling at the right time.

I do agree with you re animals vs humans, without trying to negate how awful it is that people are cruel to animals, I do not believe animals should be placed on the same level as humans, but only just a tad below.

This sad story today, http://www.montrealgazette.com/news/grandmother+charged+baby+death/3124422/story.html

Posted by: dmd3 | June 8, 2010 6:49 PM | Report abuse

You know, if Strasburg has both quantum mechanical and relativistic pitches, they may need to change the name of the stadium from Nationals Park to Unified Field.

Posted by: rashomon | June 8, 2010 6:57 PM | Report abuse

I don't think the late Paulus van der Sloot was the "attorney general on Aruba." He was a lawyer in private practice studying for the necessary credentials for a judicial appointment. He was well connected in the legal system, but was himself arrested for possible complicity in his son's alleged crime. He died of a heart attack earlier this year at age 57.

Posted by: -shiloh- | June 8, 2010 6:58 PM | Report abuse

I'm going by reports in the NYT and elsewhere, that P. van der Sloot was a judge, and, for a brief time prior to the Holloway case, AG.

justmike, welcome.

Posted by: Yoki | June 8, 2010 7:07 PM | Report abuse

I'm hoping I can spot my wife an son in the crowd at the Nats game. It shouldn't be too hard because they are both wearing red hats.

Posted by: RD_Padouk | June 8, 2010 7:09 PM | Report abuse

Wow. Jonathon Swift move over. There's a new sheriff in town.

Posted by: FlyersFan27 | June 8, 2010 7:13 PM | Report abuse

justmike, my stream-of-conscious Badenov wasn't aimed at you, I hope you realize.

Fellow-newbie welcome.

Posted by: talitha1 | June 8, 2010 7:14 PM | Report abuse

That's just a theory, rashomon.

Posted by: -pj- | June 8, 2010 7:16 PM | Report abuse

It appears the *&#$@^%$ Nationals game is being blanked out here. Anybody know otherwise?

Posted by: Curmudgeon5 | June 8, 2010 7:16 PM | Report abuse

Yes, but I thought the lasers and fog were a bit much.

Posted by: RD_Padouk | June 8, 2010 7:18 PM | Report abuse

I believe it's only available on MASN2 in this area, Mudge.

I don't have cable, so this isn't much of an issue with me.

Posted by: -pj- | June 8, 2010 7:18 PM | Report abuse

I was about to ask the same thing about the game broadcast, Mudge.

Posted by: talitha1 | June 8, 2010 7:22 PM | Report abuse

He gave up a hit! Gads, his career is over.

Posted by: -pj- | June 8, 2010 7:25 PM | Report abuse

I've got the game on, folks...

Strasburg's struck out 4 so far, given up one hit. Zim put one in the right-center seats. Nats lead 1-0, bottom 2nd.

Posted by: Scottynuke | June 8, 2010 7:27 PM | Report abuse

Having to follow it here: http://stats.washingtonpost.com/mlb/gameview.asp?gamecode=300608120

Nats up 1-0 going into bottom of second. Strasburg has struck out 4 of 6 batters.

Posted by: Curmudgeon5 | June 8, 2010 7:28 PM | Report abuse

I'm watching on MASN HD, Mudge. (771 Cox)

Posted by: RD_Padouk | June 8, 2010 7:30 PM | Report abuse

SCC: 4 of 7

Posted by: Curmudgeon5 | June 8, 2010 7:30 PM | Report abuse

Barry Svrluga is hosting a live chat about the game and describing the action:

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/nationalsjournal/2010/06/in-game_chat_nationals_vs_pira.html?hpid=skybox

Posted by: -pj- | June 8, 2010 7:31 PM | Report abuse

Rodriguez thought realllllllllllly hard about going for a triple, but he's on second, waiting to come home.

I know it's the Pirates, but you should see how silly Strasburg's making them look.

Posted by: Scottynuke | June 8, 2010 7:31 PM | Report abuse

And it is glorious to behold.

But we need some offense, yes?

Posted by: RD_Padouk | June 8, 2010 7:31 PM | Report abuse

Being concerned about the (extreme, here) mistreatment of animals does not devalue human life.

One hopes it elevates it.

Posted by: -dbG- | June 8, 2010 7:34 PM | Report abuse

Aaaaaaaaaaand our first 100-mph Strasburg heater. Followed by an 89-mph changeup.

Posted by: Scottynuke | June 8, 2010 7:37 PM | Report abuse

Six strikeouts now.

Posted by: Scottynuke | June 8, 2010 7:39 PM | Report abuse

Excellent play by Zimmerman to end the top of the third!

Posted by: Scottynuke | June 8, 2010 7:40 PM | Report abuse

Has anyone ever won a Cy Young award and a Nobel prize?

Posted by: mocmao | June 8, 2010 7:40 PM | Report abuse

Just backBoodled -- *we're-not-worthy bows to rashomon for a real ROFL* :-)

Posted by: Scottynuke | June 8, 2010 7:42 PM | Report abuse

He ALMOST got a hit!!!!! *L* But the commentators are right that he's not gonna try and sprint to beat the throw...

Posted by: Scottynuke | June 8, 2010 7:44 PM | Report abuse

From reading Sheinen's articles, Strasburg loves to hit. So he might be fun to watch on both sides.

Posted by: -pj- | June 8, 2010 7:47 PM | Report abuse

He looked fairly comfortable at the plate, pj, and he DID have Tony Gwynn as a coach, so...

Posted by: Scottynuke | June 8, 2010 7:51 PM | Report abuse

Yeah, pj.
I'm following Svrluga's chat off-and-on. Pretty decent calling a game when you can't even hear his voice ala radio.

That format is the one Paul Farhi and friends used during the Olympics for chats, but we were all watching simultaneously on TV so the interaction was much livelier.

Posted by: talitha1 | June 8, 2010 7:51 PM | Report abuse

Gosh I would feel better with just one more hit.

Posted by: RD_Padouk | June 8, 2010 7:52 PM | Report abuse

But I might be viewing this wrong. I'm getting worked up over the game - reacting like it's the World Series or something. It's really just another game. What we really want to know is if Strasburg is the real deal or not. And so far, gotta say, lookin' good.

Posted by: RD_Padouk | June 8, 2010 7:54 PM | Report abuse

I mean, of course, one more run.

Posted by: RD_Padouk | June 8, 2010 7:55 PM | Report abuse

Pretty good poise, going 3-2 with two men on and inducing a broken-bat double play...

Posted by: Scottynuke | June 8, 2010 7:58 PM | Report abuse

Indeed, Scotty. Not a bad coach to have, either. Gwynn didn't have much power but hit to all fields, as I recall. Not a bad approach for a pitcher.

Posted by: -pj- | June 8, 2010 7:58 PM | Report abuse

But sometimes the bear eats you. 2-1 Pirates on a right-field homer. And then a popup to end the inning.

And whoever caught the homer threw it back!

Posted by: Scottynuke | June 8, 2010 8:00 PM | Report abuse

Ouch. I was afraid that was going to happen. Live by the sword. Die by the sword.

It's a learning experience.

Posted by: RD_Padouk | June 8, 2010 8:00 PM | Report abuse

Foolish attempt to tag up by Willingham kills the inning. Still 2-1 Pirates.

Posted by: Scottynuke | June 8, 2010 8:08 PM | Report abuse

Foolish is an understatement.

Posted by: RD_Padouk | June 8, 2010 8:09 PM | Report abuse

60 pitches early in the 5th... Seven strikeouts.

Posted by: Scottynuke | June 8, 2010 8:11 PM | Report abuse

Love it when a big event spurs some spontaneous live boodling.

Posted by: frostbitten1 | June 8, 2010 8:11 PM | Report abuse

I'm following here, with Svrluga, and with the Post auto scoreboard. The bastages even blocked the local Internet radio.

Posted by: Curmudgeon5 | June 8, 2010 8:14 PM | Report abuse

WHOA!! 101-mph gas to put away the pitcher for the 8th strikeout!!!

Posted by: Scottynuke | June 8, 2010 8:15 PM | Report abuse

What's his pitch limit going to be? 80?

Posted by: -pj- | June 8, 2010 8:16 PM | Report abuse

We need CqP to do her commentary on the costuming. Svrluga reports that Strasburg has his wife Rachel's initials, RES, tattooed on his glove. Awwwwwwwwww.

Posted by: Curmudgeon5 | June 8, 2010 8:16 PM | Report abuse

I was wondering what RES stood for... :-)

Posted by: Scottynuke | June 8, 2010 8:17 PM | Report abuse

This Holland TV partial interview translation clarifies the role of Paul van der Sloot in his own words.


Reporter (Twan Huys): Which function do you have here at the island? Because many stories go around about that. What is your function?

Paul van der Sloot: I am a replacing member of the joint court of justice of the Netherlands Antilles and Aruba [1] and I am appointed for a period of three years, from January the first, 2003, until January the first, 2006.

Reporter (Twan Huys): So, you are replacement judge?

Paul van der Sloot: Yes.

Reporter (Twan Huys): Do you know the people very well, for example, the people here from the public prosecutors' office that ordered your detention?

Paul van der Sloot: Yes, for sure, because, before that, I have worked for eight years as chief of the cabinet of the prosecutor general [2].

Notes from the translator (Jacob, who posts as "dugo" on the internet):
[1] plaatsvervangend lid van het gemeenschappelijk hof van justitie van de nederlandse antillen en Aruba
[2] kabinetschef van de procureur generaal

The NYTimes translator may have interpreted this differently and it went from being chief of staff to "attorney general" The "replacement judge" functions as an on-call substitute when a sitting judge is absent.

Posted by: -shiloh- | June 8, 2010 8:19 PM | Report abuse

He makes good contact at the plate...

Posted by: Scottynuke | June 8, 2010 8:19 PM | Report abuse

So far thrown 70, 45 for strikes. And he's coming up to bat, so they aren't pulling him. I think they'll let him go to 100, at least.

Posted by: Curmudgeon5 | June 8, 2010 8:19 PM | Report abuse

Joel has cats? Figures this is a baseball crowd. I thought we had another finals double header tonight, oops. Even better to focus on one at a time.

LET'S GO LAKERS!! !!!

Posted by: teddymzuri | June 8, 2010 8:21 PM | Report abuse

I'd do fashion commentary for ya Mudge, if I could *see* the @*Q#)^% thing!

frostbite, I'm doing spontaneous boodling, following stats and commentary on two separate windows aaannnd watching JesusChristSuperstar on TV. Killer multi-tasking. 8D

Posted by: talitha1 | June 8, 2010 8:25 PM | Report abuse

Nine strikeouts... Another 101-mph heater.

Posted by: Scottynuke | June 8, 2010 8:26 PM | Report abuse

10 strikeouts and another 101.

Posted by: Scottynuke | June 8, 2010 8:27 PM | Report abuse

11 strikeouts on 81 pitches... Now we need a little more offense!

Posted by: Scottynuke | June 8, 2010 8:28 PM | Report abuse

11 strikeouts. That's, like, my entire high school career.

As a batter.

Posted by: Curmudgeon5 | June 8, 2010 8:29 PM | Report abuse

11 strikeouts in 6 innings on 81 pitches. Jeez!

Posted by: -pj- | June 8, 2010 8:29 PM | Report abuse

The kid is amazing to watch. Sure, he gave up a home run, but that sort of goes with the territory when you throw that hard.

I just wish the offense was rising to the occasion.

Posted by: RD_Padouk | June 8, 2010 8:30 PM | Report abuse

WOOOHOOO!!! Upper-deck shot by Dunn and the Nats are up 3-2!!! :-))

Posted by: Scottynuke | June 8, 2010 8:34 PM | Report abuse

Clearly, Mr. Dunn got the message. That was very nice.

Posted by: RD_Padouk | June 8, 2010 8:35 PM | Report abuse

Willingham to left and the Nats are up 4-2!!! :-)))

Posted by: Scottynuke | June 8, 2010 8:36 PM | Report abuse

All is forgiven Mr. Willingham. Come on home.

Posted by: RD_Padouk | June 8, 2010 8:36 PM | Report abuse

Very cool! So Strasburg is the pitcher of record and now he has the lead.

Posted by: -pj- | June 8, 2010 8:39 PM | Report abuse

It's on Direct TV channel 641!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Curmudgeon5 | June 8, 2010 8:42 PM | Report abuse

Whatdja think. One more inning? I just hope that when he leaves the field the carriage doesn't turn back into a pumpkin.

Posted by: RD_Padouk | June 8, 2010 8:47 PM | Report abuse

Got Dish out here. Ah, well.

Posted by: talitha1 | June 8, 2010 8:48 PM | Report abuse

Jeez, look at that pitch. Made his knees shake.

Posted by: Curmudgeon5 | June 8, 2010 8:48 PM | Report abuse

103?????

Posted by: Scottynuke | June 8, 2010 8:48 PM | Report abuse

I found it. Joy!!!

Posted by: talitha1 | June 8, 2010 8:49 PM | Report abuse

And then an 81-mph curve for #12...

And #13 quickly follows...

Wow.

Posted by: Scottynuke | June 8, 2010 8:50 PM | Report abuse

Strikeout number 14 on some head cheese. Wow. Just wow,

Posted by: Curmudgeon5 | June 8, 2010 8:52 PM | Report abuse

Ai chihuahua!!! Puts the side down on strikes in the 7th, only 95 pitches!

Posted by: Scottynuke | June 8, 2010 8:52 PM | Report abuse

Wow indeed.

Posted by: RD_Padouk | June 8, 2010 8:52 PM | Report abuse

I think the radar gun needs a new setting -- TILT

:-)

Posted by: Scottynuke | June 8, 2010 8:53 PM | Report abuse

And they pulled him. I guess it was a good, conservative decision...but man, would have loved to see him go 9.

Now I can watch Glee.

Posted by: Curmudgeon5 | June 8, 2010 8:55 PM | Report abuse

Seven straight strikeouts and eight in the last nine batters he faced. Nicely done!

Posted by: -pj- | June 8, 2010 8:58 PM | Report abuse

Time to Gleek out.

Posted by: frostbitten1 | June 8, 2010 8:59 PM | Report abuse

He didn't fold after the HR, a very good sign.

Posted by: Scottynuke | June 8, 2010 9:02 PM | Report abuse

I agree Mudge. But I have a feeling that he will give them a reason to keep him in for nine more than once.


Posted by: RD_Padouk | June 8, 2010 9:04 PM | Report abuse

Justmike, you said "speculating."

I am a service dog user. Any assault on my dog is an assault on me.

I will react to try and save my dog. Whenever the state (such as Maryland) does not provide sufficent protection for service dogs to guarantee a police response for say, a loose dog attacking my dog, I will definitely risk personal injury in order to get that police response.

Even when the attack is not lethal, my dog could no longer be able to work in public as a consequence, depriving me of thousands of dollars' worth of training and years of investment, so I will react immediately.

I can be murdered in the process of assaulting my dog because I am dependent on my dog to be my ears. Others may be dependent on that dog for their eyes, or to protect them in case of seizure.

I asked specifically "what is the guarantee that this man will not reoffend again?"

The next dog he grabs could well be a service dog, or one belonging to a person with heart trouble.

I don't think this guy has shown himself particularly considerate of the weak and vulnerable, so the question does have to be raised of how dangerous he is to human beings.

It is my direct opinion that killing dogs in the presence of their owners is a very dangerous act that will lead to injury or death to people sooner or later.

This is not speculation. This is fact. Pet dog owners routinely get hurt trying to protect their dogs from attack.

My question is, is four months enough to stop him? What were the factors involved that are expected to no longer apply the next time he walks a free man?

Only then will I say that four months is just right for him.

Oh, and a felony theft is 1 year plus in jail, minimum. The threshold is normally 500 dollars.

Most dogs aren't valued high enough in the eyes of the law to merit felony damages even if the dog is killed-- especially if it's a mutt without known market value.

(And yes, grabbing a dog from its owner is theft, even if the dog is killed immediately.)

The burden to prove a greater value falls on the owner in order to get it upgraded to a felony.

I think this needs to change.

Posted by: Wilbrod_Gnome | June 8, 2010 9:05 PM | Report abuse

Wow you are all boodle happy

I only just now caught up on the last

I have two things to say

DO NOT for any reason BURN poison ivy PLEASE

I'm allergic in a big way. Fortunately for me I wasn't home when a neighbor decided to strategically remove the vile vine from his yard. WIth burning. I was a block away. Had rashes all over every square inch of me for two weeks. Got sent home from school three times due to rash flare ups. If I was in my own back yard at the time it might well have killed me.

CqP, I'm quit certain I wasn't the poster mentioning Teilhard

And I am not going to link to Julieta Venegas again. You know, her video: "Bien o Mal". Where the gals eat flowers and fart butterflies.

Nope...won't do it

Posted by: omni3 | June 8, 2010 9:07 PM | Report abuse

Gwynn would put a fat one down the middle over the center field fence. He rarely got a fat pitch, however.

Posted by: Jim19 | June 8, 2010 9:09 PM | Report abuse

Amen, Wilbrod!

Posted by: talitha1 | June 8, 2010 9:10 PM | Report abuse

Indeed, Wilbrod, indeed.

Posted by: Scottynuke | June 8, 2010 9:13 PM | Report abuse

"He didn't fold after the HR, a very good sign."

A real pitcher throws pitches, one after the other. One great pitch encouters a great swing, another encounters a missed call... Keep throwing. That's what catchers and coaches are for: "You have great stuff, kid, just keep hitting the target and don't worry about the score. We'll get you enough runs." If the kid doesn't need that, all the better.

LTL-CA (played a lot of pitcher and catcher through age 50)

Posted by: Jim19 | June 8, 2010 9:19 PM | Report abuse

Indeed, LTL-CA, indeed.

Posted by: Scottynuke | June 8, 2010 9:22 PM | Report abuse

Indeed, Wilbrod.

Posted by: -dbG- | June 8, 2010 9:24 PM | Report abuse

Strasburg gets his first win, 5-2. :-)

Posted by: Scottynuke | June 8, 2010 9:26 PM | Report abuse

Woo Hoo!

A most excellent baseball contest.

Posted by: RD_Padouk | June 8, 2010 9:28 PM | Report abuse

billducks In response to your 6:33 post, Boooooooo! Joel's writing and
research is brilliant and magnificent! And furthermore, the people who blog here on a regular basis are the brightest and best. They are clever, witty, and supportive of each other. I consider it a honor to lurk. So there!!!
Chloebug

Posted by: chloebug | June 8, 2010 9:28 PM | Report abuse

Not a bad philosophy of life, LTL-CA.

Posted by: RD_Padouk | June 8, 2010 9:29 PM | Report abuse

Killing a dog ain't murder and pets are not kids, children or babies.

Posted by: teddymzuri | June 8, 2010 9:30 PM | Report abuse

Thank you chloebug!

Posted by: RD_Padouk | June 8, 2010 9:31 PM | Report abuse

Word for the Allergic. I find that calomine is pink. That's it. No relief at all for me. YMMV. What I find works for me is a cold water rinse, really cold, and a follow up with Vaseline intensive care hand lotion.


I read a book called "Fermat's Last". I think I may have mentioned it. Good book. Fiction and only partly about the solution. A guy is trying to duplicate what Fermat may have done using only known math at the time of his life.

I came up, after I read this book, with the Anti Proof. (I became somewhat consumed with it for a few weeks cause I was bored at work)


I wrote a program to test it. But the program was to much of a resource hog for my computer, and I was completely frustrated trying to do anything else while it ran. So after two days I cancelled it.

Did you know there is no entry on Wiki for 'Quantum Math'?

Posted by: omni3 | June 8, 2010 9:32 PM | Report abuse

"Dogs, dogs, dogs," said my cats, Wilbrod, after I read your posting to them. "What about (italic) animal (end italic) rights?"

My cats can actually speak in italic if they so choose. It has a squealing whine sound, very different from the SHOUT in ALL CAPS sound.

"Dogs, INDEED." they said, in unison.

Posted by: -shiloh- | June 8, 2010 9:35 PM | Report abuse

Well, that game, for me at least, showed the power of spectator sports. It pushed all the complexities, anxieties, and strife of the world into the background for just a few blissful hours. (Well, blissful for Nats fans that is.)

And I must admit I am a little jealous of Joel, my wife and son, and everyone else who saw that game first hand.

Of course, I saw it in HD on a pretty big screen.

And now, rather than navigate the Metro, I get to go to bed.

Posted by: RD_Padouk | June 8, 2010 9:37 PM | Report abuse

Italic cats do have their own slant on things, don't they? *supplying groan so you don't have to*

Posted by: talitha1 | June 8, 2010 9:39 PM | Report abuse

What's the maximum penalty for killing a cat in Peru?

Posted by: teddymzuri | June 8, 2010 9:45 PM | Report abuse

Cats play all the angles, talitha1, in my experience. Dogs are rather straight forward.

Posted by: -shiloh- | June 8, 2010 9:45 PM | Report abuse

Nooooo! Glee is making me cry again. I refuse to be manipulated by To Sir With Love.

Posted by: frostbitten1 | June 8, 2010 9:47 PM | Report abuse

LET'S GO LAKERS!! !!!

Posted by: teddymzuri | June 8, 2010 9:48 PM | Report abuse

Laughing, Frosti. Yeah, tonight's a three-hankie night all around. Still laughing at teddy's 9:45. too.

Posted by: Curmudgeon5 | June 8, 2010 9:52 PM | Report abuse

Many of us believe that although pets are not kids, children or babies that they are important parts of our families.

And when I go to PetSmart with my dogz, they have shown excellent money management skillz in deciding what to spend their allowance on. Of course, I've given them a fine example by putting money into their college funds every month.

Posted by: -dbG- | June 8, 2010 9:54 PM | Report abuse

You might want to mark your calendar for this one. BP is likely to mean British Pinata next week when its CEO Tony Hayward is scheduled to appear on Capitol Hill before the House Energy and Commerce Committee chaired by Rep. Henry Waxman on Thursday, June 17 at 10 am ET.

Posted by: -shiloh- | June 8, 2010 9:56 PM | Report abuse

Over the Rainbow. The Izzy version, yet. Now that's just not fair.

Posted by: Curmudgeon5 | June 8, 2010 9:58 PM | Report abuse

Come on out more often, chloebug.

Posted by: -dbG- | June 8, 2010 10:00 PM | Report abuse

I have both kids and pets, there is a difference, love them all but there is a difference. That said mistreating animals is wrong with that I agree it is the degree of punishment I quibble.

Wilbrod service dogs, police dogs are a different category to me and extension of the person and entitled to more protection/harsher penalties if harmed.

But completely equal to humans I think I stop just short

Posted by: dmd3 | June 8, 2010 10:00 PM | Report abuse

Oh, I agree, shiloh. Kazoo the Maine Coon convinced me in the 17 years she kept me on her payroll. I grew up with every pet imaginable, though, so I ain't partial.

Posted by: talitha1 | June 8, 2010 10:01 PM | Report abuse

On the other hand, attacking or killing a guide dog on duty can kill that same guide dog's owner. Or terrifying somebody with a delicate medical condition by killing their pet in public could kill them, too.

Shiloh, I know of some cases in Idaho where people were shooting at animals with arrows-- a cat (which I had met) had its leg amputed, which wasn't cheap, and then rehomed to somebody willing to make that cat indoors only. I think other pets were killed.

The police only "followed up" after public pressure, and never did anything. The people in that neighborhood were very afraid that the next arrow in the dark could go through them.

The attacks ended abruptly; it seemed a vacationer had passed through and decided to practice target practice in a residental neighborhood, which is very dangerous in itself given the high risk of hitting bystanders.

Why is that behavior any less dangerous or disruptive to society simply because no humans as of yet were directly harmed by it, only animals? It's wrong.

Posted by: Wilbrod_Gnome | June 8, 2010 10:03 PM | Report abuse

I agree with dmd3 to the extent that kids should be subject to more protection and harsher penalties, especially for crimes against animals.

Posted by: -shiloh- | June 8, 2010 10:07 PM | Report abuse

I had a cool thing happen tonight while on the baseball livechat forum. A guy who had participated in the Olympics chat was posting. We had clicked then because he lives about 10 minutes from where I grew up in Georgia. We had to "commune" in code during the play-by-play but managed a few halloooos across the board. Small world.

Posted by: talitha1 | June 8, 2010 10:12 PM | Report abuse

The lawyers among us might have more to say, but I don't think the law has kept pace with how pets fit in our society these days. They are more than property, and less than people. The $ value of an animal and its training should not be the primary determinant of the level of punishment. It seems to me they should be worthy of protection in their own right. As a carnivore I understand the inconsistencies this view creates, but not much is consistent in this life.

Posted by: frostbitten1 | June 8, 2010 10:19 PM | Report abuse

SCC of course I meant omnivore.

Posted by: frostbitten1 | June 8, 2010 10:21 PM | Report abuse

Sadly Wilbrod there are many evil people in the world, both cruelty to animals and children are in my opinion not punished to the degree I would like.

Posted by: dmd3 | June 8, 2010 10:22 PM | Report abuse

Sounds like the young Strasbourg had a great game, nice that he was able to live up to the expectations, radio station I listened to on the way home was talking about his start tonight.

Watching Glee reminded me I have failed in an important Mom duty, to have eldest watch "To Sir With Love".

Posted by: dmd3 | June 8, 2010 10:26 PM | Report abuse

Emerson said, frosti,

"A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds."

You are consistently on target with an understanding of inconsistency.

Posted by: -shiloh- | June 8, 2010 10:29 PM | Report abuse

Finally, someone close to Obama on Achenbach's hyperbole meter. Unlike B.O., Strasburg appears to be the real deal. He's a legit big leaguer.

Posted by: maxtel1910 | June 8, 2010 10:35 PM | Report abuse

Howdy and thanks for the baseball updates! I am glad Strasburg is not a cooked goose. I hope to get a chance to watch him pitch, at least on TV.

Chloebug, I'm glad you emerged. Come back and chat again. You too, justmike. We sometimes disagree amongst ourselves on particular issues but we try to be civil and usually find there are other areas of common agreement - besides enjoying and respecting Joel's work, that is. Often our common issues revolve around food. Or books.

This evening I found a lovely, intact cast-off snakeskin about 5 foot long on my patio. Somewhere nearby there should be a gorgeous shiny snake slithering about, but I didn't see it at the compost heap or in the blackberry patch. Anyone know how to clean a snakeskin without shredding or injuring it?

Posted by: Ivansmom | June 8, 2010 10:44 PM | Report abuse

Comparing, maxtel, the league of politics and government to a sport and baseball league is an odious comparison. It stinks. It has little validity. A perfectly pitched game is like winning an election, yes, but it doesn't qualify you as team captain. That's a greater trial.

Posted by: -shiloh- | June 8, 2010 10:46 PM | Report abuse

Frostbitten, I agree exactly. I think the real solution is in increasing their minimum value as property and strengthening pre-existing laws, not in cooking up new laws to grant animals equal rights.

Wilbrodog has no more rights than any other dog, actually. When he is on duty he has rights only in as far as he is being used in service by me, a disabled person who has the right to access places no matter what kind of accomodation I use.

This law not only protects him, but also protects disabled people from being blocked from entering public places because they use oxygen, wheelchairs, scooters, are "hard to deal with", considered ugly, or whatever.

People are out there who have pitched fits in public, say because they found the clerk who was ignoring them was deaf and then said things like "they shouldn't be allowed to work here," and so forth.

So, I want to emphasize again and again that access laws are for the often less-than-cute people using service animals, not for those magical and cute animals.

I have a right not to be harrassed, impeded, hurt or otherwise bullied even if I use a service animal, and that means my service animal has a right to work without being harrassed.


Posted by: Wilbrod_Gnome | June 8, 2010 10:47 PM | Report abuse

Caugh, caugh, frosti, we know that bears and Minnesotans are "omnivore". When there is no meat that shows up on the menu that is.

This Staussbergski throwing for the Nats guy may well be the next Randy Johnson, only shorter and using the wrong arm most of the time. (I haven't heard about him switching sides, he still keeps that skill under warap?)

Speaking of which I made best friend with the Very Large Puppy today. I trimmed a tenderloin (processed somewhere in the US by a lovely crew of Salvadorian or Equadorian no doubt) into 10 filets mignons we had for dinner (2 left) and a kg and change of cubes for a future stew. I had the VLP under my elbow all the time while I was trimming the piece of meat. He got a few bits here and there. Not as much as he hoped as he was the only dog there. But there is a price to pay for that look he takes around every morning before getting out, still waiting for the giant old lab to get outside with him, and breaking my heart doing so.

Murders complicates life enormously for those involved. I've been on the periphery of two and I found the things life-altering. Much more than a pet's death. I figure a service dog's death is somewhere in-between.

dmd, this St-Barnabé thing is such a sad story. I wish we would not become so involved in the judiciary process. Do you think those 2 women would be happy right now, being charged or not? And what about the guys (father and grand-father) having a talk in the barn while this happen, aren't they responsible as well? Carp.

Posted by: shrieking_denizen | June 8, 2010 10:50 PM | Report abuse

I am a crazy-dog-and-cat-lady pet owner, but still, I think Wilbrod's situation is *very* different to (i.e. not representative of) that of most animal guardians.

Except in the case of service dogs, I do not think that my dogs' lives are equal to my daughters'. That is, given the chance, I would save all of them from a fire. But if I can't, the dots and me old Mum come first. And then I shall mourn.

The mistake I think you make, Wilbrod, is in assuming that your particular circumstances are univeral, and arguing from that point

Posted by: Yoki | June 8, 2010 11:05 PM | Report abuse

Shriek, it is just an awful story, and one of those ones that I find so difficult, how could society ever punish that family more than they will punish themselves. I feel for all involved.

Posted by: dmd3 | June 8, 2010 11:05 PM | Report abuse

My posts do not improve as they get longer. *sigh*.

Posted by: shrieking_denizen | June 8, 2010 11:06 PM | Report abuse



No man is an island

No man is an island entire of itself; every man
is a piece of the continent, a part of the main;
if a clod be washed away by the sea, Europe
is the less, as well as if a promontory were, as
well as any manner of thy friends or of thine
own were; any man's death diminishes me,
because I am involved in mankind.
And therefore never send to know for whom
the bell tolls; it tolls for thee.

John Donne

Add dog, or animal, or "somewhere in between" and the sense changes little. Every death diminishes me. The sea life in the Gulf of Mexico, no less.

Posted by: -shiloh- | June 8, 2010 11:15 PM | Report abuse

That is deeply poetical and sensitive, shiloh. And I disagree so vehemently that I don't know where to put myself.

Yes, every death diminishes me. But animal lives a little less than human. Only a little, nearly imperceptibly, but, it is so. That is just how it is.

Posted by: Yoki | June 8, 2010 11:23 PM | Report abuse

Never send to know for whom the bell tolls, Yoki, it tolls for thee (and me).

P.S. The "little less than human" characterization has been applied before,most notable to the Negro and the Jew.

I do not equate most other animals with our proud human intelligence, but I suspect some may know more than we do.

Posted by: -shiloh- | June 8, 2010 11:35 PM | Report abuse

Oh, Puhleeze.

Posted by: Yoki | June 8, 2010 11:39 PM | Report abuse

That was an extremely well implemented Phil Jackson game-plan.

Posted by: teddymzuri | June 8, 2010 11:43 PM | Report abuse

Denial is a river in Egypt.

Posted by: -shiloh- | June 8, 2010 11:44 PM | Report abuse

*executed*

Posted by: teddymzuri | June 8, 2010 11:47 PM | Report abuse

Lakers done good.

Posted by: teddymzuri | June 8, 2010 11:48 PM | Report abuse

OH MY. My darling doggie in front of me is not near the loss of a child, any child.

And, the tiny one planckton, no. But, the loss of the health and flexibility AND ecosystem services is horrid.

YET!!!!
People first. My goodness some here are speaking of this?

And, as frosti says, we live in huge complexity, we benefit from huge complexity. My doggie lives better than most of the world's children. And, if she understood that, would hang her head and weep and offer to give herself so another may live.

Shiloh, I AM calling you out. You have been here before. You are brilliant and a provocateur. Stay or not. But I see what you are up to.

Zen or not.

YK's regular invocation of Vonnegut is right. May as well be kind.

You sir, are not being kind.

Posted by: CollegeQuaParkian1 | June 8, 2010 11:56 PM | Report abuse

Teddy, good on that. I remember Kurt Rambis from college days. He is, for, me what is good (was?) in the back office.

And, thanks JA boss man for the pleasure of reading about baseball. Go stand in the corner, the good corner, with Mr. Boswell. If you work really hard, then perhaps, you can stand with Mr. Angell. Roger Angell.

Posted by: CollegeQuaParkian1 | June 9, 2010 12:02 AM | Report abuse

TdC, CQP, has answered in anticipation. Why argue a thing decided?

Posted by: -shiloh- | June 9, 2010 12:05 AM | Report abuse

Shiloh, really. You lay ideas down without wisdom or nuance.

And, TdC new and loved and honored the hierarchy of being.

Now I shall go to bed without giving you much thought. However, for those you have taunted and those who discuss here passionately but with measure and manners, I give all my thoughts. And more.

Posted by: CollegeQuaParkian1 | June 9, 2010 12:08 AM | Report abuse

NYT headline: "In Calif., Ex-eBay Chief Prevails; Ark. Senator Holds Seat"

I would have assumed the editor should know the vote isn't for the Ark seat, it's for a place on the Nov ballot.

LTL-CA

Posted by: Jim19 | June 9, 2010 12:08 AM | Report abuse

Piffle

Posted by: -shiloh- | June 9, 2010 12:13 AM | Report abuse

Yoki, I'd save my relatives before my dog, too. Actually, probably strangers too.

But it's probably my dog who wakes me up and lets me save 'em all, and that has to be factored in. Even untrained pet dogs have often saved people by alerting them to fires. That has value.

But, I don't stand by and let anybody hurt what's mine. It's not "either/or."

Would you really let somebody attack your dogs and not move a muscle? If not, why wouldn't you do so? Isn't it because you are now intimidated by the threat of violence directed towards you?

Being robbed of your dog's life in a violent manner is to me the same thing as a violent robbery-- a mugging.

AND I have been mugged. Fought back.

I would fully expect the experience of seeing my service dog attacked and killed to be worse, if only because he actually helped me regain my life after being mugged.

Not as bad as murder, even attempted (also been on the periphery of those). I've never argued that.

But taking an animal from its owner and throwing it over a bridge is s a violent property crime directed against a person-- THAT IS THE OWNER, NOT THE ANIMAL, and that has to be factored in as more than a simple case of unlawful killing or abuse of an animal.

It is and should be legally considered robbery as the primary offense, animal abuse or unlawful killing of animal as a secondary charge.

Robbery in Washington DC carries a minimum 2 years sentence, max 15 years.

This is far more than 4 months. It actually doesn't matter the property value involved.

Does that clarify any confusion people may have as to what I am talking about?

As far as I am concerned, those people were mugged of their own dog in a particularly violent, brutal way, and this shouldn't become a "pets (or service animals) aren't people" debate.

Posted by: Wilbrod_Gnome | June 9, 2010 12:14 AM | Report abuse

No, of course not, Wilbrod. I've put myself in front of my dogs more than once.

Posted by: Yoki | June 9, 2010 12:20 AM | Report abuse

I think the "debate," Wilbrod, has transcended dog or service animal to become a biological life issue. At what point does the biblical injunction for human dominance subsume to the shared animal nature of the human specie, little understood at the time?

Posted by: -shiloh- | June 9, 2010 12:29 AM | Report abuse

There's no mayonnaise in Ireland,
not in the entire shelf.

Posted by: Bob-S | June 9, 2010 12:29 AM | Report abuse

As they have put themselves in front of me, bouncing high on their toes, when necessary.

But, still, I'd take my kids out of a burning building before I would the dogs.

Posted by: Yoki | June 9, 2010 12:29 AM | Report abuse

I suppose I'd grab Yoki's kids, then Yoki, then Yoki's dogs.

I could forgive myself if I didn't get the dogs out, but Yoki would never forgive me if I didn't try to get the kids out first.

Posted by: Bob-S | June 9, 2010 12:34 AM | Report abuse

Thanks, Bob. I'll count on you to get me out.

Posted by: Yoki | June 9, 2010 12:40 AM | Report abuse

Introducing mayonnaise to Ireland may be a higher calling.

Posted by: -shiloh- | June 9, 2010 12:42 AM | Report abuse

CqP has called it. We've been trolled today.

Yoki, you didn't backboodle fully; the case being given was one of a dog being snatched from their owners and being thrown off a bridge, the reasoning 4 months "was enough punishment."

I said that I thought it was a extremely violent property felony deserving of more time and gave reasons how such behavior could indeed become hazardous to people, using a similar scenario occuring to service animals as an example.

Then people keep writing as though I had asserted my service dog has rights like people. Service animals do NOT. Their legal status directly flows from the need of their disabled user to have what they need and choose to use to mitigate their disability in public.

I am referring to US law, incidentally, where "service animals" refers to dogs that specifically live with and are trained to assist disabled people.

This does not cover therapy dogs, and it does not cover working dogs in law enforcement or military such as drug/bomb/ search and rescue dogs, police dogs, so forth. Those are trained and handled very differently.

I think I've been confusing people with those terms. Manytimes, killing a police "service dog" on duty is considered legally the same (or almost) as shooting a police officer on duty, as the dog is acting as a police officer, under direction of a handler.

This is not how assistance dogs are legally protected. They are not acting as persons. The only "person" involved in any point of law is the disabled user, not the animal.

Canadian law differs, but surely service animals are not seen as rights-bearing "persons" under the law?


Posted by: Wilbrod_Gnome | June 9, 2010 12:43 AM | Report abuse

Wilbrod seems to be making a value judgment that I don't fully buy into here. Don't try to convince me that an animal's life is important by telling me:
- - - -
"But taking an animal from its owner and throwing it over a bridge is a violent property crime directed against a person-- THAT IS THE OWNER, NOT THE ANIMAL, and that has to be factored in as more than a simple case of unlawful killing or abuse of an animal."
- - - -

Umm... There are plenty of "owners" who fully deserve to be tossed from a bridge. I think you're vastly overestimating the value of owners here.

Posted by: Bob-S | June 9, 2010 12:45 AM | Report abuse

I fully agree with Bob-S that animal "owners" vastly overestimate their own value.

Posted by: -shiloh- | June 9, 2010 12:51 AM | Report abuse

We're getting there, Wilbrod. There is a Bill under consideration in Parliament under which all animals are treated as persons, not property.

Farmers, ranchers, have a problem with this. Just imagine why! Their lobby is very powerful here in the wilds, and likely to prevail.

I don't have any argument with the proposition that animals are not simply property. To me they are sentient, feeling, independent, emotionally-intelligent beings.

I don't think we've gone there, yet, as a society, where the Bill will be passed; I celebrate that penalties for animal cruelty are likely to be increased exponentially under omnibus legislation as a result.

I would happily protect every calf from branding; failing that, I can lend my voice to give animals some rights not to be abused. And do.

Posted by: Yoki | June 9, 2010 12:56 AM | Report abuse

I think you called it right, CqP.

Posted by: Wilbrod_Gnome | June 9, 2010 12:58 AM | Report abuse

Aww, shucks, Shiloh...

[Toes ground, head down, grinning a little]

Posted by: Bob-S | June 9, 2010 1:03 AM | Report abuse

Bob-S, of course. However, ownership implies responsibilities as well as rights.

I don't support any bills that would make animals something like perpetual minors under the law. It wouldn't distinguish between a rabid dog or a tame one, a moose or a pet pony, the wild rat depositing plague in your house, or a pet hamster.

It'd immediately become a law that would be selectively and unfairly enforced-- in short, carte blanche to harrass people that you just plain don't like.

As for value judgments-- is branding calves really more inhumane (as in painful, scarring, nature-altering) than neutering dogs?

You may think so, but you also are not a rancher.

Posted by: Wilbrod_Gnome | June 9, 2010 1:10 AM | Report abuse

Wow. Time for me to go.

Posted by: Yoki | June 9, 2010 1:13 AM | Report abuse

Neither a rancher nor a dairyman.

But a heifer tried to dry-hump me once. It was kind of exhilarating!

Posted by: Bob-S | June 9, 2010 1:16 AM | Report abuse

[The heifer was named 'Bully' because she had learned some bad habits by watching her older brothers.]

Posted by: Bob-S | June 9, 2010 1:24 AM | Report abuse

If I may, without being misconstrued, quote Twain -----

Of all the animals, man is the only one that is cruel. He is the only one that inflicts pain for the pleasure of doing it.

Posted by: talitha1 | June 9, 2010 1:26 AM | Report abuse

*Snort*

Posted by: Yoki | June 9, 2010 1:27 AM | Report abuse

OK!
Then!

Jaysus Gawd.

Posted by: Yoki | June 9, 2010 1:29 AM | Report abuse

Sorry.

Posted by: talitha1 | June 9, 2010 1:58 AM | Report abuse

run out on a rail!

Posted by: Yoki | June 9, 2010 2:14 AM | Report abuse

FWIW, it's great to see the Nats had a firm grasp on the importance of the moment last night. Lannan gave Strasburg the obligatory postgame interview shaving-cream pie to the face, then Olson gave him a towel to clean up. And Olson promptly followed up with ANOTHER shaving-cream pie in the mush!! *LOL*

*trudging-off-to-the-Dawn-Patrol-flightline Grover waves* :-)

Posted by: Scottynuke | June 9, 2010 5:22 AM | Report abuse

What if we went out for breakfast today?

Posted by: -dbG- | June 9, 2010 7:10 AM | Report abuse

Scones at The Scone Witch on Albert?

It's a bit out of your way and you need your passport if you want to re-enter the US but the scones are to die for...

Posted by: shrieking_denizen | June 9, 2010 7:37 AM | Report abuse

Scrambled eggs is MURDER!

Posted by: Boomslang | June 9, 2010 7:50 AM | Report abuse

We could always place a delivery order for some Bacon Explosion... :-)

Posted by: Scottynuke | June 9, 2010 7:55 AM | Report abuse

Speeding scones & clotted cream & strawberry jam/orange marmalade to the ready room. A fortifying cream tea.

Good morning you all. How great for the Nationals to start off with a win! How much were the "standing room only tickets"? Saw a long line on tv waiting to purchase.

It's a wonderful thing to log on to Scotty's sports commentary; just as good as CqP's fashion shows. Strasburg is Washington's new Star, hooray, we need a summer star who uses both arms. Is he considered ambidextrious?

Baseball is understandable, I am content.

Welcome to all the new folks of yesterday, come back soon, tomatotalk season is just around the corner.

Posted by: VintageLady | June 9, 2010 8:15 AM | Report abuse

So, I wake up and read the teaser on the front of the WaPo online edition that Palin wants Obama "to call her."

HA HA HA HA!!!!

The poor woman is afraid of Rachel Maddow and she thinks that Obama is any easier?

If you think that you are a king maker in an off-year primary cycle, then you are a fool.

All this talk about the Unions being from "out of town" (the freakin' Washington Post, for Christ sake) and here is Lincoln getting lifts from "out of town" people, herself. The fact is that many of Lincoln's constituents are union members. For unions, it's a bad to worse proposition.

There in Nevada, we saw the lady who wanted to have us pay for health care with live chickens has lost to the lady who wants us to get rid of the Social Security System. This is all fringe stuff.

I am saddened by the fact that so many Americans don't understand the necessity of a well functioning and thriving lower-middle class. That is the bedrock of the economy. If you take away from those with the least, you just shoot yourself in the head. Here we are in the midst of our second job-less economic recovery--one that is absolutely critical to our nation--and we have NO CLUE how to stabilize our future. We just don't get it.

Instead, we have money guys betting against the Euro countries to make quick cash. Our nation is actually funding those making these speculative wagers. Our country doesn't care about its own, much less those abroad.

Icing on the cake? Our former President admitted to his torture tactics--a clear war crime. Even more stunning, his ignorance or delusion to think that he got anything of value.

If you want to know what broke the back of our economy, it would be (1) cutting taxes on the ultra-wealthy; (2) fighting 2 wars off-budget; (3) small tax cuts for the rest of us to make us think that we can have a free lunch; (4) spending nothing on domestic programs (crushing so many small businesses); (5) trashing Glass Steagall; (6) Nafta combined with tax supported exportation of our factories; (7) Allowing off-shore banking tax-deferred wealth accumulation; (8) Bush Cash repatriation holidays at low or no cost ...

It's that simple. The fox is in the hen house. The fox is running TV ads and so many of our countrymen are buying in on the Malarkey.

Let's just blame the black guy and lean back in our lawn furniture in our living room and watch more TV.

Posted by: russianthistle | June 9, 2010 8:35 AM | Report abuse

Interesting overnight discussion. All I can contribute is the observation that while the effect on the owner of any crime involving property is important, you need to be careful. People love all sorts of things.

Let's say one has a pocket watch, a watch that is the only link to a long dead spouse. A watch that a person carefully oils and maintains and whose existence is a talisman against psychologically oblivion. Should the criminal who steals this watch be punished more that your average watch thief because of the mental cruelty the crime inflicts on the owner.

Or, more dangerously, should a parent who kills all of her children be let of more easily because she wasn't all that fond of them anyway and feels happier now that they are gone?

See? This is the danger of extrapolating a personal response into a general policy.

Posted by: RD_Padouk | June 9, 2010 8:38 AM | Report abuse

Bravo to Weed and RD, different subjects but both posts speaking truth, thank you.

Nice to read the play-by-play last night, happy that Strasburg did well as we all need a feel good story now and then, especially now.

Posted by: badsneakers | June 9, 2010 8:45 AM | Report abuse

Thanks badsneakers!

That game really was a much needed tonic. Years ago I read a book that made the argument that fascination with the hitting streak of Joe Dimaggio back in 1941 was partly driven by the gathering clouds of war.

I dismissed this at the time, but now I wonder. When a population is stressed and anxious, little things take on a big meaning. Last night, for many, was a nice open spot in the dark woods to sit for a moment and enjoy the warmth of the sun.

But now, alas, it's time to pick up the backpack and keep trudging onwards.

Posted by: RD_Padouk | June 9, 2010 8:52 AM | Report abuse

Good morning, y'all.

Warm muffins, coffee and OJ on the table.

Happy Wednesday! Got nuttin' to add to the threads except that it's nice to see the discussions varied and lively.

Got no plans for today. Just feelin' open to whatever comes. Like more coffee.

Posted by: MsJS | June 9, 2010 8:56 AM | Report abuse

Our favorite oil company is going to establish a wildlife fund with the net revenue from the recovered oil.
http://www.bp.com/genericarticle.do?categoryId=2012968&contentId=7062799

Posted by: MsJS | June 9, 2010 9:15 AM | Report abuse

This boodle needs more colloquialisms.

CQP,I loved Kurt Rambis well before i was a Laker fan. Whatta workhorse and emotional leader. Maybe most here won't agree, but i admire Dennis Rodman for the same reasons. And both racked up multiple rings for those very same reasons. It's the piece the CAVS were missing, but that , say, the Bulls could fill with that Noah guy.

Posted by: teddymzuri | June 9, 2010 9:25 AM | Report abuse

Herein lies the problem with Obama trying to be "bipartisan."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/06/08/AR2010060804327.html?hpid=opinionsbox1

In trying to appease the right (Afghanistan, for example) he does not satisfy them; rather, he alienates his core consituency.

Posted by: Raysmom | June 9, 2010 9:30 AM | Report abuse

Hey shiloh, the 'N-word' is so despicable in American Culture that we don't even use its origin anymore.

Posted by: teddymzuri | June 9, 2010 9:34 AM | Report abuse

R-mom, bipartisanship is like the tango. It takes two (or preferably a whole lot more).

As long as others view bipartisanship as a position of weakness, it will not be particularly successful.

Posted by: MsJS | June 9, 2010 9:39 AM | Report abuse

'Morning, Boodle. Went to bed happy, then read the backboodle this morning and am distressed to see Sholoh had come a bit unhinged and there were implications that she was racist, a notion that is intolerable, offensive and absurd. CqP called him out, but I want to add my name to CqP's and in defense of Yoki.

I'm quite interested to see that Ruth Marcus, in quoting a writer named Nicholas Carr, has taken up a theme I've harped on a few times, which is that the Internet and electronic technology have, on balance, done or are doing more overall harm than good to society. She quotes this:

"In a new study, researchers at the University of Michigan found that college students today are about 40 percent lower in empathy, measured by standard personality tests, than their counterparts 20 and 30 years ago. The biggest drop occurred after 2000, coinciding with the rise of online communications and social networking, and the author, Sara Konrath, sees a possible correlation. "Empathy is best activated when you can see another person's signal for help," she told USA Today."

"The subtitle of Carr's book is "What the Internet Is Doing to Our Brains." Perhaps he should worry about our hearts as well."

Posted by: curmudgeon6 | June 9, 2010 9:52 AM | Report abuse

SCC: Should read: "there were implications that Yoki was racist, a notion that is intolerable, offensive and absurd. CqP called him out, but I want to add my name to CqP's and in defense of Yoki."

Posted by: curmudgeon6 | June 9, 2010 9:59 AM | Report abuse

Ah, MsJS, now I get it! The calls for "bipartisanship" are merely bait to encourage the Dems to be weak.

Good luck to the Blackhawks tonight. As much fun as a Game 7 might be and as much as I love to see a team win the Cup on home ice, I'd like to see them close it out tonight.

Posted by: Raysmom | June 9, 2010 10:10 AM | Report abuse

This morning, we are having strawberry rhubarb pie with whipped cream on top.

If any of you, any one of you were near, I'd be honored to have you over for a slice. Point is, don't bother fighting on the internet. Disagree, don't fight.

Pie for breakfast? Yeah, pie for breakfast.
This is the boys' first day of Summer vacation and the day after my birthday and there are any number of reasons to celebrate this morning (it is only 0711 here).

Posted by: shrink2 | June 9, 2010 10:12 AM | Report abuse

I saw what you did in the Nikki Haley comments, talitha... :-)

Posted by: Scottynuke | June 9, 2010 10:13 AM | Report abuse

This is going around our office this morning: the strongest anti-drunk-driving ad we've ever seen. Of course, it isn't ours (meaning isn't American); it's from Australia. It's "safe for work" but pretty tough to watch. Over 5 minutes long.

http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=Z2mf8DtWWd8

Posted by: curmudgeon6 | June 9, 2010 10:17 AM | Report abuse

Hey, shrink's on-Kit --

"the boys... of Summer" :-)

Posted by: Scottynuke | June 9, 2010 10:23 AM | Report abuse

Happy Unbirthday, Shrink.

I'm standing and clapping for Weed, also for RD.

I think that what Yoki said so well earlier applies, at times, to each of us. We each have an issue or two about which we are passionate; when someone else pokes that issue with a stick we tend to respond by "assuming that our particular circumstances are universal" and starting our discussion there. Many is the post I have composed, either in my head or at the keyboard, then thought better of sending. Alas, I suspect the posts I've made, harping on my particular experience, are about as numerous.

More bears. Baseball-playing bears.

Posted by: Ivansmom | June 9, 2010 10:23 AM | Report abuse

Good morning boodle! I see I-mom has added the only topic that could improve a baseball boodle. More bears, of course.

shrink-rhubarb pie is a most excellent breakfast. A strawberry-rhubarb pie is nearly as good. You've not received food faxing instruction yet? (Slyness!)

After reading last night's discussion-Personal experience is very powerful, and true, but it suffers from the deficiency of being a sample size of 1.

Wear your sun screen folks, better yet stay out of the sun. Ma Frostbitten just had a chunk taken out of her nose on Monday, and a little plastic surgery yesterday. She's quite chipper, and the outlook is great, but the whole thing easily avoidable now that we know the hazards.

Posted by: frostbitten1 | June 9, 2010 10:35 AM | Report abuse

We already have the Cubs, Imom... (sorry, MsJS) :-)

Posted by: Scottynuke | June 9, 2010 10:37 AM | Report abuse

Never so happy to have a post disappear.

Every pet owner has one of those days at the vet when the line between kindness and cruelty is blurred. I had that day yesterday, when Wilbrodog needed his anal glands expressed for maybe the tenth time in his life.

Over the years, his reactions to this painful procedure have progressed to the point he growls in fear and now needs to be muzzled and held by two people or he will sit, tail tucked, or flee the table altogether.

The vet was new and took what felt like forver, with Wilbrodog crying during the procedure (he did shed tears. Dogs can do that, just not as profusely as people), whimpering, yelping, groaning, moaning. I'm holding on to his neck and I'm getting all the suffering and anxiety in the face for what felt like half a hour but probably was more like seven minutes-- too long for my taste.

When it was done, the muzzle came off and he was grinning in relief like he always does after a good anal gland cleansing.

I've considered surgery, but it could have consequences that could disable him for life, create infection etc-- not desireable for a working dog.

I try and prevent it by what I feed him, but the real trigger is environmental allergies, so he gets it every year.

What it does look and sound like is three women torturing an large dog rectally. Very easy for an bystander to jump to the wrong conclusion there.

So Talitha, while I love Mark Twain, I really, really think he was talking about slavery, not animals. He had seen human beings whipped.

Animals can and do indulge in cruel acts for their own pleasure; the difference is that they act amorally, not immorally, which point Twain made in his brilliant essay "the Ichenmoun Wasp"

But Twain had plenty to say about animals.

"If animals could speak the dog would be a a blundering outspoken fellow, but the cat would have the rare grace of never saying a word too much. - Mark Twain"

"Of all God's creatures, there is only one that cannot be made slave of the lash. That one is the cat.- Mark Twain"

"If man could be crossed with the cat it would improve the man, but it would deteriorate the cat. - Mark Twain"

"He wa'n't no common dog, he wa'n't no mongrel; he was a composite. A composite dog is a dog that is made up of all the valuable qualities that's in the dog breed — kind of a syndicate; and a mongrel is made up of all riffraff that's left over. "

Heaven goes by favor; if it went by merit, you would stay out and your dog would go in."

More at: http://www.dogquotations.com/mark-twain-dog-quotes.html

Posted by: Wilbrod_Gnome | June 9, 2010 10:42 AM | Report abuse

This is officially the strawberry-rhubarb day for the boodle. Witch no.2 had warmed over strawberry-rhubarb pudding with heavy cream for breakfast.
A little too sweet for me but darn tempting.

Posted by: shrieking_denizen | June 9, 2010 10:46 AM | Report abuse

The boys of Summer (vacation ;-) just sang their Popi another round of happy birthday, correctly assuming the cardamom and ginger* spiked carrot cake would come out again. So it will be pie and cake for breakfast. slater

* both Zingiberaceae

Posted by: shrink2 | June 9, 2010 10:50 AM | Report abuse

Good morning, all.

Strasborg (ahem) appears to be as advertised.
Guy lands in the majors seemingly a full-on major league pitcher. Good for him -- and for us.

Personally, if Sarah Palin asked me to call her, I'd change my phone number in case she wanted to take the iniative.

On the other hand, a response would be, "Call you *what?* Never mind, a gentleman does not use that kind of language in public."

bc

Posted by: -bc- | June 9, 2010 10:50 AM | Report abuse

Just glanced at that Palin article... Her alternate reality tour continues. *rolling my eyes*

Posted by: Scottynuke | June 9, 2010 10:53 AM | Report abuse

I always say there's nothing like a good anal gland cleansing.

Posted by: bobsewell | June 9, 2010 10:56 AM | Report abuse

http://www.sinfest.net/archive_page.php?comicID=2698

Posted by: DNA_Girl | June 9, 2010 10:58 AM | Report abuse

Re cruelty to animals, I do know mandatory sentencing is all messed up. Pre-sentence investigations should offer the judge the choice to put the dog-tosser away for more than 4 months, and order psychiatric treatment, or other lesser offenders a small fine and therapy, etc. etc. The law needs leeway. It's imperfect but history probably shows it's the best way.

Posted by: Jumper1 | June 9, 2010 10:59 AM | Report abuse

Bob S., I'm sure Wilbrodog would like to quote Bugs Bunny --

"And don't think it hasn't been a little slice of heaven... Because it hasn't!"

Posted by: Scottynuke | June 9, 2010 10:59 AM | Report abuse

Golly. Poor poor Wilbrodog. Also poor Wilbrod. Sometimes taking good care of the ones we love can be a difficult thing.

Cake and pie for breakfast! The Ivansclan would sing the Bill Cosby song: dad is great! gave us the chocolate cake!

I thought about the Cubs, scottynuke, but they aren't really bears y'know. I'm thinking a visit to the zoo to see the grizzlies might be in order.

Posted by: Ivansmom | June 9, 2010 11:02 AM | Report abuse

shrink, strhubarb pie works for me any time of the day or night. And belated hoppy birdies to you!

Posted by: MsJS | June 9, 2010 11:02 AM | Report abuse

Mudge, I have saved that Australian PSA to show my children and someday, my granddaughters. Extremely well done and makes me even happier that I do not drink.

Shrink, happy belated birthday. I like your choice of breakfast foods. What's that old saying about life being sort so eat dessert first? Of course most of the time one has to be prudent and eat correctly, but what a simple pleasure it is to just eat what you like now and then, to heck with calories!

Posted by: badsneakers | June 9, 2010 11:03 AM | Report abuse

Thanks DNA Girl. That comic had an added bonus of a banner ad for shirt/bumper sticker printing that included as an example a Palin/Voldemort 2012 sticker.

Posted by: frostbitten1 | June 9, 2010 11:07 AM | Report abuse

And of course belated Herzlichen Glückwunsch am Geburtstag to shrink! :-)

Posted by: Scottynuke | June 9, 2010 11:08 AM | Report abuse

SCC: life is 'short' or sort of short. I'm distracted by cookie baking, that's my excuse and I'm sticking to it!

Posted by: badsneakers | June 9, 2010 11:15 AM | Report abuse

Shrink, I'd have baked a cake! Happy Birthday yesterday and I'll have a piece of that pie, thank you very much. ;-)

Snuke, SC politics is ugly enough without that garbage being piled on . . . . . I felt the need to put a lid on it.

Aaaaaaand, I just got a surprise call from my tall boy - he'll be here for the weekend. Momhead is planning meals as she types.

See y'all later.

Posted by: talitha1 | June 9, 2010 11:15 AM | Report abuse

Mudge-just watched that ad. Forwarding it to the candidate I'm endorsing for sheriff.

Posted by: frostbitten1 | June 9, 2010 11:19 AM | Report abuse

Ivansmom, not that universal. But yes, I do think robberies related to dogs shouldn't be sentenced that lightly. Simple theft, maybe.

We have plenty of animal rights nuts who think they are entitled to steal other people's animals or commit other criminal acts to "save them."

One christmas, I opened an offical-looking letter trying to threaten me into turning my dog over to the shelter "for his welfare."

You cannot write a threatening letter full of lies and innuendo and demand a person turn over property to you or hint, hint, face possible criminal prosecution, especially when you have no such authority to do so.

I don't care the facts of the case. It's a crime. I don't know the technical words for it. Extortion? Robbery? Blackmail effort? Impersonation of authority?

I contacted others at the shelter and they had no knowledge of it. I prepared my legal defense and made sure there was no way they could take my dog while I was out; countersuing would do no good if my dog was already dead before I got home. Fortunately I lived out of the jurisdiction, but I was pretty darn careful just in case.

Literally, I really did have to protect myself from the threat of my dog being robbed by some kind of nut who thought it was cruel to use dogs in service dog work.

This isn't an isolated incident, though. Those kind of threats happen all over. Mine was just egregious because it mimicked offical authority.

It's many years later. Wilbrodog is still healthy, happy, and has a stimulating and spoiled life.

He'll end out his life with me, the same way he's always wanted to.

But if cases like this get dimissed because it's "only a dog," that misses the real point of how people exploit other people.

Posted by: Wilbrod_Gnome | June 9, 2010 11:31 AM | Report abuse

Thank you, Wilbrod. That link was the reference from which I selected the quote I posted earlier. I chose it precisely because it spoke of man's cruelty to his fellows . . . . . evidence of which earlier postings had convinced me.

I hope that you and Wilbrodog will have a much more peaceful day today. His smiles always touch my heart.

Posted by: talitha1 | June 9, 2010 11:40 AM | Report abuse

Interesting piece on crabs, including some ghastly prices, in this piece: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/06/08/AR2010060801001.html?hpid=features1&hpv=national

Note to persons going to Havre de Grace: see what the story says about problematic crabs and algae in that area.

The story quotes a guy named Mick Blackistone, who I used to know slightly way (way) back in my boatbuilding days and he had something to do with Annapolis boat shows and the marine trades industry.

I don't quite understand how putting a dollop of crab meat on top of a soft-shell crab before cooking "extends" the dish, but boy, does it sound good.

We had crabs a few weeks ago, at about $3 each ($36 a dozen). Very good for that early in the year.

I have a couple of tricks of my own to extend crabmeat when making my notoriously good cream of crab soup, which includes tossing in a pound of imitation (in addition to a pound of the real thing), fish bouillion cubes, and clam juice. (When you also add whole king crab claws and a cup of sherry, nobody cares about the cheats.)

Posted by: curmudgeon6 | June 9, 2010 11:42 AM | Report abuse

Oh, [bleep]. http://voices.washingtonpost.com/checkup/2010/06/bad_news_for_short_people.html?hpid=news-col-blog

Posted by: curmudgeon6 | June 9, 2010 11:54 AM | Report abuse

Well, towering at about 5'6", I'm nearly tall!

Posted by: bobsewell | June 9, 2010 12:00 PM | Report abuse

Mudge - note that they seem to define "short" as less than 5' 3" regardless of gender. This, I suspect, skews the results a lot to women. I mean, there are a lot more women shorter than 63 inches than there are men.

Although I can't tell without reading the study, I wonder if they are adequately controlling for other variable like weight.

I also note that they consider "tall" anyone greater than 5' 7".

Yeah. Let's go with that.


Posted by: RD_Padouk | June 9, 2010 12:16 PM | Report abuse

Liked your comment on the short people site Mudge. The last sentence of the article about how docs should consider shortness a risk similar to obesity left me saying, "huh?" Obesity can be 'cured' whereas being short is just a fact of life. Also, my unscientific observations are that most of the people I know who have heart disease are not short - so there!

Posted by: badsneakers | June 9, 2010 12:17 PM | Report abuse

Pinot Noir tested and bottled at Chateau Weed. 28 Bottles waiting. Taste was very clear and very smooth. Remarkable.

Posted by: russianthistle | June 9, 2010 12:31 PM | Report abuse

"Cruel" that Wilbrodog has a job?? That's just nuts. Every dog I've known desperately wants a job. That may sound joking but I'm serious. He's the luckiest pooch I've heard of, and the so-called "animal rights" nut is wrong, wrong, wrong.

Posted by: Jumper1 | June 9, 2010 12:31 PM | Report abuse

Shriek, good for the VLP. When my old Golden died, my little lab Lucie looked for him for weeks. She'd search the house, then the yard, repeatedly throughout the day. Even eating the flowers over the ground where his ashes were buried didn't help.

When the GSD died, not her buddy, she couldn't have cared less.

Posted by: -dbG- | June 9, 2010 12:38 PM | Report abuse

"...But the Dwarf answered: No; something human is dearer to me than all the wealth of the world..." Brothers Grimm

Posted by: shrink2 | June 9, 2010 12:40 PM | Report abuse

Thank you, bad. I've been trying to cure my shortness literally all my life, with very little success (in fact, over the last decade or two, it seems to have gotten worse. I was 6' 1" when I got married. 27+ years and five kids later, I'm down to 5'4"). Only been working on the obesity problem half as long.

(Although, come to think of it, it also partly coincides with my marriage. Wife got me to stop smoking, which cost me 30 pounds. Various diseases got me to stop umpiring after 17 years, which also cost me 20-30 pounds. Hmmm. Maybe I should go back to smoking and chasing teenage softball players to get back in shape.)

Posted by: curmudgeon6 | June 9, 2010 12:40 PM | Report abuse

Next to the pinot noir from Chateau Weed I place the perfect late spring weather-in-a-bottle from CasaJS. 75 degrees, sunny, light breeze from the west, low hummiditally.

For those who haven't yet eaten lunch, grilled chicken, pasta salad, asparagus, and fresh blackberries al fresco.

Posted by: MsJS | June 9, 2010 12:49 PM | Report abuse

As a former resident of Warrensburg, Mo. I am very familiar with the Johnson County Dog trial of 1869. Briefly, one farmer sued a neighbor for shooting his dog. Sheep were being killed, but there was no evidence that Old Drum (the dog) was the culprit. The plaintiff's attorney was George Vest, who later served four terms in the U.S. Senate. His summation is preserved on a statue and memorial to the dog located on the grounds of the county courthouse.

http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Old_Drum_Statue.JPG

"Gentlemen of the Jury, the best friend a man has in the world may turn against him and become his enemy. His son or daughter that he has reared with loving care may prove ungrateful. Those who are nearest and dearest to us, those whom we trust with our happiness and our good name, may become traitors to their faith. The money that a man has, he may lose. It flies away from him, perhaps when he needs it the most. A man’s reputation may be sacrificed in a moment of ill-considered action. The people who are prone to fall on their knees to do us honor when success is with us may be the first to throw the stone of malice when failure settles its cloud upon our heads. The one absolutely unselfish friend that man can have in this selfish world, the one that never deserts him and the one that never proves ungrateful or treacherous is his dog.”

Gentleman of the Jury, a man’s dog stands by him in prosperity and in poverty, in health and in sickness. He will sleep on the cold ground, where the wintry winds blow and the snow drives fiercely, if only he may be near his master’s side. He will kiss the hand that has no food to offer, he will lick the wounds and the sores that come in encounters with the roughness of the world. He guards the sleep of his pauper master as if he were a prince. When all other friends desert he remains. When riches take wings and reputation fall to pieces, he is as constant in his love as the sun in its journey through the heavens. If fortune drives the master forth an outcast in the world, friendless and homeless, the faithful dog asks no higher privilege than that of accompanying him to guard against danger, to fight against his enemies, and when the last scene of all comes, and death takes the master in its embrace and his body is laid away in the cold ground, no matter if all other friends pursue their way, there by his graveside will the noble dog be found, his head between his paws, his eyes sad but open in alert watchfulness, faithful and true even to death.”

Posted by: kguy1 | June 9, 2010 12:53 PM | Report abuse

Being tall isn't all it is cracked up to be.I am 6 foot,the basement where I now live is 5'8".Everyone in my family can fit down there except me.I cracked my head so bad last week,I was seeing stars. I need a football helmut,a hard hat or something?

I really am enjoying this rainy day off!!!

Posted by: greenwithenvy | June 9, 2010 12:54 PM | Report abuse

*faxing large hard hat to GWE*

Posted by: MsJS | June 9, 2010 12:58 PM | Report abuse

I cracked my head so bad last week,I was seeing stars. I need a football helmut,a hard hat or something?

Posted by: greenwithenvy

****

Joel: are you done with that astrolabe?

Posted by: byoolin1 | June 9, 2010 1:15 PM | Report abuse

I spent several lovely years dating a fellow who's 6'10". It is not possible to emphasize the drawbacks to extreme height. Doorways, beds, clothing, cars, airplane seats . . . . you get the idea.
And the remarks and infantile questions from otherwise polite folks never ceased to amaze me.

Soooooooo, height, schmight. However tall we are it beats the eternal horizontal.

Posted by: talitha1 | June 9, 2010 1:19 PM | Report abuse

New kit!

Posted by: Raysmom | June 9, 2010 1:36 PM | Report abuse

When I was a child, I enjoyed swimming down to the bottom of the deep end of the pool -- a whole 7 feet -- feeling like I was way down in the depths of the ocean, and then popping back up to the different world of the surface. One day a tall family friend was visiting, and we went to the pool. He put his hands on the edge and his feet on the bottom, and my world shifted.

Posted by: -bia- | June 9, 2010 1:41 PM | Report abuse

Mickey Mantle had this sort of reeption and the critics never did think he was good enough. I hope this is not a rerun.

Posted by: GaryEMasters | June 10, 2010 9:54 AM | Report abuse

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