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After the well is killed

The Macondo well should be dead any minute now. Really dead. It's already been killed three times, but no one has trusted it to stay dead. It was sealed July 15 with the capping stack (or stacking cap? -- am getting so rusty!), and then plugged with mud Aug. 3 and then crammed with a mile of cement on Aug. 5 or thereabouts. Tony Hayward sent posters to the people in Houston after that, congratulating them for killing the well.

But was it truly, conclusively, permanently, incontrovertibly an ex-well? With a mile of cement in its gullet, it didn't pose much danger. All along, however, the protocol called for a bottom kill from the relief well. Late Thursday that relief well intercepted the annulus of Macondo. There was no sign of hydrocarbons in the annulus, so that saved a step. If there had been HCs there, they would have had to plug it with mud prior to cementing. As is, they just sent in the cement, which I believe is hardening as we speak. We should have the official announcement today.

So what happens next? For the Macondo reservoir, nothing. The oil and gas stay where they've been for millions of years. Drilling that reservoir again, even in 10 or 15 years, would be a public relations nightmare, about as popular as drilling in Central Park.

Pretty soon they'll drill in deep water again -- because that's where the oil is, and we're addicted to oil. But the industry better not assume that this was a fluke. This will happen again unless industry and government take more seriously the risks of puncturing the sea floor in the deep, dark waters of the gulf. It's a dangerous place to drill because there's so much gas down there. And what's clear is that this accident was like most major industrial disasters, one that emerged from the complexity of the undertaking and a general lack of appreciation of how things might go wrong, how one thing might lead to another, how human beings can make errors of judgment at precisely the wrong moment because they can't really see what's happening.

Yes, those guys misread the pressure test, but they were trying to interpret something happening at the bottom of the sea. They couldn't walk up and examine the blowout preventer -- it was in total darkness at 39 degrees F. and 152 atmospheres precisely 4,992 feet below them, where people can't go. They were trying to interpret a mysterious result in which there was pressure on the drill pipe (odd) but no pressure (as they expected) on the kill line. It appears that a quirky decision to send a double-dose of spacer fluid down the well (so that they could then dump it overboard, per environmental loophole) could have gunked up the kill line; otherwise they would have had pressure on the kill line and known without question that the well had some kind of communication with the reservoir below.

Don't understand all this? You're not supposed to. The engineers are supposed to get this right. And deep-water drilling should be like nuclear fission in a reactor: You aren't allowed to make a mistake. The tolerable number of major accidents should be zero.

So even though Macondo is (any second now) deceased, the story continues.

By Joel Achenbach  | September 18, 2010; 8:26 AM ET
 
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Thank you for the update, Mr. A.

I shall be quite relieved when this phase of the saga is officially in the books.

Posted by: MsJS | September 18, 2010 11:21 AM | Report abuse

*counting to 10 and practicing my deep breathing exercises*

Posted by: Scottynuke | September 18, 2010 11:38 AM | Report abuse

I'm one who believes that if I get some Gulf shrimp, they will be fine to eat. And also that the Administration should fix the regulatory agency so that no more bad designs are tolerated and yet the companies can, if they accept the new safety regs, whatever they might be, go back to work. Maybe even in the Macondo.

Posted by: Jumper1 | September 18, 2010 11:47 AM | Report abuse

First? Not possible.

There's soon going to be deepwater drilling about 50 miles from the Florida Keys, with essentially no American technology or expertise involved. If something goes wrong, the experts and presumably equipment will have to come from some place like Venezuela.

The oil industry has a good record (at least in developed countries like Norway) of doing terribly difficult, complex operations relatively safely. The Macondo disaster raises questions about whether the US is in the same class as Norway, and of course about what to expect offshore from countries that aren't in the same class as the US.

Doing anything in salt water causes difficulties, albeit people seem to have operated oceangoing coastal boats for at least 50,000 years (people and evidence of trade from New Guinea and Australia).

Fiber optic cables on ocean floors seem to work well, though I wonder about crossing the Mid Atlantic Ridge. Plans for vast underwater networks of oil and gas pipelines and maybe even electric cables from Libya and Iceland to Europe leave me puzzled.

On the other hand, there's a few marvels of saltwater recreational technology. I have no idea why I still have a box containing an unused Voit Swimaster Titan II J SCUBA regulator. By now, it's too neat a historical item to just discard. It's almost what James Bond might have worn in Thunderball (which was evidently loaded with Voit equipment).

Posted by: DaveoftheCoonties | September 18, 2010 11:52 AM | Report abuse

So anyway;

*soapbox*

U.S. nuclear reactors are built, operated and regulated (ahem) based on the assumption of IMPERFECT operation. The controls and safety systems can tolerate several operator mistakes/equipment malfunctions in a row and still shut a plant down safely. Of course, the ultimate goal is indeed zero major accidents, that's why plant operators and regulators pay such great attention to small issues (and learn from them), to ensure they don't become large ones.

*/soapbox*

:-)

Posted by: Scottynuke | September 18, 2010 12:29 PM | Report abuse


Interesting article on the fate of the hydrocarbons from the blowout.

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2010/09/100916145133.htm

Most interesting, as a counterpoint to what Joel has written is that plumes from deep drilling stay in the water long enough for the microbes to digest them, keeping the volume of petroleum down in the upper trophic zone and on shore.

Posted by: edbyronadams | September 18, 2010 12:38 PM | Report abuse

Oh, and cue the Coroner of Munchinland... :-)

Posted by: Scottynuke | September 18, 2010 1:00 PM | Report abuse

Key phrases: 'Fault tolerant' and 'fail-safe'

You shouldn't have to count on a guy hitting the correct button on his way to the life boat.

I've noticed a preponderance of ExxonMobil ads on WaPo lately, the gist of which is "We're not BP."

Posted by: yellojkt | September 18, 2010 1:08 PM | Report abuse

Boy, is that sky in Raleigh Carolina Blue today!

Posted by: yellojkt | September 18, 2010 1:14 PM | Report abuse

Doh! (to Joel)

Posted by: Jumper1 | September 18, 2010 1:18 PM | Report abuse

I don't understand how the conclusions in the post at 12.38 pm were reached, nor the basis for the implication that the ecosystem has suffered no great harm, but I do understand that the Science research article referenced in the post does not reach any rosy conclusions.

Posted by: DNA_Girl | September 18, 2010 1:39 PM | Report abuse

G'afternoon Boodle. Kudos to Mr. A for all the first-rate coverage of the disastrohoochie.

It looks like the Science Daily piece was talking about research on gases that leaked from the well and dissolved in seawater rather than oil itself. It's nice that it didn't all get up to the surface and into the atmosphere, but it will result in lowered oxygen levels as bacteria break it down, which is something that parts of the Gulf of Mexico were already suffering.

Didn't realize you were in Raleigh yello - I'm enjoying the Carolina blue skies from the comfort of my hammock this afternoon.

Posted by: lostnspace | September 18, 2010 2:08 PM | Report abuse

Not in NC. Just watching it on TV. But it looks as blue as it does when I was there two years ago:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fhMLwBHwq1o

Posted by: yellojkt | September 18, 2010 2:21 PM | Report abuse

Wrong link. Here's the right one:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/yellojkt/3019933455/in/set-72157608821877968/

I hate it when that happens.

Posted by: yellojkt | September 18, 2010 2:23 PM | Report abuse

It might be dead, but I'm going to beware of Macondo, Zombie Well From the Deep.

Now, I'm Rushing off to meet Scottynuke.

bc

Posted by: -bc- | September 18, 2010 2:24 PM | Report abuse

And I meant Chapel Hill. I'm getting my Tobacco Road teams confused.

Posted by: yellojkt | September 18, 2010 2:30 PM | Report abuse

The oil-gas-bacteria situation is looking increasingly complicated. Won't be a full view for a while. Not that anyone can do much about the situation in open waters.

Posted by: DaveoftheCoonties | September 18, 2010 2:37 PM | Report abuse

bc and Scotty,

Enjoy the Moving Pictures.

Posted by: yellojkt | September 18, 2010 2:52 PM | Report abuse

You nailed it Joel. In the midst of all the details and conflicting stories and finger-pointing you identified the key point:

"...emerged from the complexity of the undertaking and a general lack of appreciation of how things might go wrong.."

These words ought to be engraved somewhere.

Posted by: RD_Padouk | September 18, 2010 4:05 PM | Report abuse

Driving by to send a big shout out to my lovely Wolverines, who beat U-Mass 42-37. *YAY*

Poor Maryland can't seem to catch a break, which makes me wonder how long Friesen is gonna be around as coach.

Mmmmm. College football, falling leaves, crisp weather, lovely cider. Can't beat it, eh? Well, Yoki and I know that the only way to beat it is for hockey season to start. But other than that .......

Posted by: ftb3 | September 18, 2010 4:08 PM | Report abuse

Since those bacteria make CO2 from the hydrocarbons, and the ocean is at best a temporary sink for that gas anyway, and at worst kills beneficial plankton before it's oxidized and acidifies the ocean in bad ways after, and will then all reach CO2 equilibrium in the atmosphere anyway, adding to the extent of climate warming, I found the slant of the article disingenuous. Dilution is not necessarily the solution. And no one mentions the benzene and similar nasty stuff which is present in all petroleum.

Posted by: Jumper1 | September 18, 2010 4:28 PM | Report abuse

I know we have a lot of musical theater fans here so I offer this:
Michele! The Musical Bachumanntary
"In just short of a month, Michele! The Musical Bachumanntary will open at the Minneapolis Theater Garage. The show will be a mix of outrageous musical numbers, razor sharp comedic scenes, great political satire and very little professional dancing."

Tickets and more info here:
http://michelebachmannmusical.com/

Posted by: frostbitten1 | September 18, 2010 5:24 PM | Report abuse

RichNomore - While I'm happy to acknowledge that your criticism of the other commenters here as self-involved elitists is quite valid, I must point out that your technique is under-developed. Study, study, study...:
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"...today's group diatribe is as scintillating as ever, by the same tiny band of well educated, eloquent, congenial, boring and goodlooking people.

That said, this blog STINKS!!!!!!

Did someone say "depressing?" Think about abortion, Alito, Iraq, domestic snooping, Katrina recovery. Then, have a nice day.

Posted by: The Real Lonemule | January 24, 2006 3:49 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: Bob-S | September 18, 2010 6:19 PM | Report abuse

"That kid needs the same thing as this BLOG...A good 'ol fashion hot coffee enema!!!!!!!!!!!

Man!!This Whole Thing STINKS!!!!!!!!!!"
Posted by: The Lonemule | January 24, 2006 4:25 PM |
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"ABBA!!!!!!ABBA!!!!!This Blog reminds me of ABBA. ABBA DABBA DOO..

Dog DOO that is!!!!!!!"
Posted by: The Lonemule | January 24, 2006 6:13 PM |
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Corporate sponsorship....Maybe this Blog should go that route.

How 'bout "The Achenblog....Brought to you by Fleet's Home Enemas...Remember Achenblog and Fleet's, the result is the same!"

Posted by: The Lonemule | February 5, 2006 9:07 AM |

Posted by: Bob-S | September 18, 2010 6:28 PM | Report abuse

STINKS and not enough bears.

Posted by: frostbitten1 | September 18, 2010 6:29 PM | Report abuse

Unfortunately, I think Lonemule's good name was often hijacked, back when that was easier to do.

But the good brother Mule had a simple message, stuck with it, and none of us ever wondered what he was talking about.

Posted by: Bob-S | September 18, 2010 6:32 PM | Report abuse

Not *nearly* enough bears, frosti.

Posted by: ftb3 | September 18, 2010 6:36 PM | Report abuse

*cue "Hail to the Victors"*

ftb, MrJS is also quite pleased with the results from The Big House today. CasaJS is bedecked in maize and blue til Thanksgiving. It clashes dreadfully with the eggplant-colored couch, but what the hey.

Posted by: MsJS | September 18, 2010 6:44 PM | Report abuse

The frostcats miss the days when it was easier to assume different nom de boodle. They toyed with twitter for a while but felt duped when tweets didn't involve the delivery of real birds.

Posted by: frostbitten1 | September 18, 2010 6:58 PM | Report abuse

More bears,

http://video.yahoo.com/watch/4324307/11612939

Posted by: dmd3 | September 18, 2010 7:04 PM | Report abuse

Smacking hand to forehead. Don't know why Churchill wasn't already on my vacation short list. Thanks dmd.

Posted by: frostbitten1 | September 18, 2010 7:15 PM | Report abuse

Paris, Rome, London, NY, Rio places that come top of mind to visit - Churchill - not so much :-).

Posted by: dmd3 | September 18, 2010 7:21 PM | Report abuse

Just had one of those moments you will always remember as a parent. Middle child has had a couple of friends over all day and they have been playing nicely with youngest. A few minutes ago I stepped outside across the yard I heard them playing and then some sort of comment about "making her fly". Parental instincts kicked in and I thought perhaps I should look. Come around the corner of the house to see a rope strung over one of the maple tree branches, two older girls holding one end of the rope, attached to the other one, youngest child. Now I give them credit for thinking the idea through, youngest was wearing a life preserver to which the rope was attached and also had on a bike helmut. Seems the flying had already been tried as was not popular when I shut the activity down. It was funny though.

Posted by: dmd3 | September 18, 2010 7:34 PM | Report abuse

God loves us so much more than we can imagine through Him that died for all, Jesus Christ.

Evening, friends. Just wanted to check in and say howdy. Typing with the braces on the hand can be difficult, but without them, I'm not much better. You know, hands are so important, but many times we just take these lesser parts for granted, only realizing how great is the need when we no longer have the use. Of course, old age does enlighten us, but it does hurt. Ouch!

Good kit, JA. And yes, we are addicted to oil, just as I am addicted to the sweets and the colas. Neither addiction is good, and I so wish we could find some other form of energy that just didn't maligned earth so bad. It just seems we leave a mess wherever we go. Of course, I can't complain because I'm part of the problem.

Between the hand braces and the back brace, I'm a walking item of velcour and hard plastic. Not complaining, for there is some relief.

Kbert, got the second box, and thanks again. I do hope all is well with you and family.

Slyness, it was an absolutely beautiful day here, especially this morning. Nice breeze and beautiful blue sky. It's a tad warm now, but still a beautiful sky.

You tagged it right, yello.

Have a good evening, folks, and love to all.

Posted by: cmyth4u | September 18, 2010 7:41 PM | Report abuse

Bachmann... that's the other one, not the wrestler or the comedian, right?

http://www.faithmouse.com/michelle_bachmann_pancake_eyes.jpg

Posted by: Bob-S | September 18, 2010 7:44 PM | Report abuse

dmd-

I once got stuck in a very small barrel because of one of those moments.

Luckily, my sisters managed to get me out before my parents came home.

Posted by: Moose13 | September 18, 2010 7:45 PM | Report abuse

dmd - That shut-down was commendable & obligatory.

Let us know how it works out when they do it again, because surely they shall.

Posted by: Bob-S | September 18, 2010 7:48 PM | Report abuse

Kinda kicking myself for not taking a photo or video. Somewhere my mom is laughing, she came home one day to my brother teaching my sister how to repel from our roof.

Posted by: dmd3 | September 18, 2010 7:51 PM | Report abuse

cmyth4u - What's funny is we're not really addicted to oil. We already what we're going to use when oil gets too expensive. We just haven't decided to quit yet.

:-D

Posted by: Bob-S | September 18, 2010 7:52 PM | Report abuse

"We already know what we're gonna use..."

Posted by: Bob-S | September 18, 2010 7:57 PM | Report abuse

In the short term, it's coal and alcohol, by the way.

Posted by: Bob-S | September 18, 2010 8:02 PM | Report abuse

Evening, folks. Mr. T and I are home from Chapel Hill, and I can attest that the sky was definitely Carolina blue today. The sun was shining, too, and it was hot as blue blazes in Kenan Stadium. I remembered sunscreen for the arms but didn't put any on the neck, with the predictable result that I'm now a redneck. The things I do for my husband.

We will not discuss the football game itself. Mr. T and the other two alumni in the car were not happy.

No autumn here yet. Dry, but still waaay too hot for fall.

Cassandra, I'm glad to hear your braces are working. I know they can be inconvenient; I hope the relief outweighs the bulk.

Posted by: slyness | September 18, 2010 8:03 PM | Report abuse

Am I the only boodler/lurker unpacking her tattered 20 yr old Scarlet and Gray sweatshirt for the season?

No matter.

Obama is rooting with me:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/whitehouse/4999111676/

Posted by: DNA_Girl | September 18, 2010 8:16 PM | Report abuse

South Carolina State & University of South Carolina seem to be doing OK.

Perhaps they've chosen the wrong Carolina?

Posted by: Bob-S | September 18, 2010 8:24 PM | Report abuse

DNA_Girl - I was concerned that your use of that photograph to imply that Obama supports your nefarious ends might fall afoul of the clearly-stated user terms:

"This official White House photograph is being made available only for publication by news organizations and/or for personal use printing by the subject(s) of the photograph. The photograph may not be manipulated in any way and may not be used in commercial or political materials, advertisements, emails, products, promotions that in any way suggests approval or endorsement of the President, the First Family, or the White House."

But then, I remembered that it's no longer up to you:

"For any content that you submit, you give us permission to use such content. You hereby grant to Washingtonpost.Newsweek Interactive, LLC a royalty-free, irrevocable, perpetual, worldwide, exclusive, and fully sublicensable license to use, reproduce, modify, adapt, publish, translate, create derivative works from, incorporate into other works, distribute, perform, display, and otherwise exploit such content, in whole or in part in any form, media or technology now known or later developed."

Posted by: Bob-S | September 18, 2010 8:31 PM | Report abuse

I wasn't going to mention the game itself out of deference to the inexplicably large contingent of Tarhole boodlers, but since it got brought up, be sure to bang the drum for Josh Nesbitt to get the Heisman.

http://nesbitt4heisman.com/nesbitt/

Posted by: yellojkt | September 18, 2010 8:33 PM | Report abuse

Heh heh heh.

Posted by: DNA_Girl | September 18, 2010 8:36 PM | Report abuse

Happy belated Yom Kippur to all the Boodler members of the Tribe.

Happy new year, and may you be inscribed in the Book of Life.

Posted by: yellojkt | September 18, 2010 8:41 PM | Report abuse

yello - It felt wrong somehow, but I was kinda rooting for Georgia against Arkansas toward the end of the game. I probably won't do that very often, because when UGa lost, it didn't bother me all that much.

Posted by: Bob-S | September 18, 2010 8:41 PM | Report abuse

As we left work yesterday, a co-worker and I exchanged the following (decidedly non-traditional) holiday wishes:

"May your soul be well-searched!!"

"May your amends be heartfelt & fruitful!!"

Hey, we do what we can.

Posted by: Bob-S | September 18, 2010 8:48 PM | Report abuse

Soul searched and found not wanting.

No amends forthcoming.

The way is easy.

Posted by: -tao- | September 18, 2010 9:15 PM | Report abuse

It's not a bear, but omygosh:

http://www.charlotteobserver.com/2010/09/17/1700267/ma-woman-bags-1025-pound-alligator.html

(Damned if *I* would get into the water with a monster like that close by!)

Posted by: slyness | September 18, 2010 9:34 PM | Report abuse

slyness - I saw that. I was going to suggest that it was further proof that Mr. T and the other alumni may have chosen the wrong Carolina if they're looking for toughness.

But whilst the incident was in South Carolina, it were a snowbird who done the deed.

Posted by: Bob-S | September 18, 2010 9:42 PM | Report abuse

from the mountain top
there is but one way to go
blessed are the climbers


Posted by: DNA_Girl | September 18, 2010 9:43 PM | Report abuse

and blessed are the sleds.

Posted by: -tao- | September 18, 2010 9:50 PM | Report abuse

A multi-hundred pound record-setting sturgeon was caught in the Sacramento River very (very, very) near an area I'd gone skinny-dipping repeatedly and (at that time) quite recently. That was a little disconcerting.

Posted by: Bob-S | September 18, 2010 9:53 PM | Report abuse

Hi, y'all--

Spent the last couple of days at Bahia Honda State Park in the Florida Keys. It's beautiful there, especially now in the off-season when it isn't crowded with people. In the early morning I went for walks and saw stars I haven't seen for decades. Orion has a head? Who knew?

Also found quiet time to finish Franzen's _Freedom_. Loved it. Now reading T.M. Shine's novel about unemployment and general despair called _Nothing Happens Until It Happens to You_. Highly recommended by Dave Barry and also by me.

Here are some totally random photos from Bahia Honda:

http://s9.photobucket.com/albums/a80/kbertocci/Bahia%20Honda%20Sept%202010/

Posted by: kbertocci | September 18, 2010 9:57 PM | Report abuse

Sorry for my language, but f*** it, I'm outta here!! Off to the Keys. I'll leave a sign so nobody worries about me too much, but don't expect to hear from me soon or often...

Gone Fishin'

Posted by: Bob-S | September 18, 2010 10:05 PM | Report abuse

kb,
Nice iguana. The birds aren't bad either. And what a beautiful sunset.

Posted by: yellojkt | September 18, 2010 10:07 PM | Report abuse

when they say God is
I shrug and move on, although
sunsets do give pause
particularly (um:-) since
'Tim dissed Rayleigh scattering

Posted by: DNA_Girl | September 18, 2010 10:30 PM | Report abuse

This is the sort of thing that puts some folks off their feed:

CHRISTINE O’DONNELL: "I dabbled into witchcraft — I never joined a coven. But I did, I did. … I dabbled into witchcraft. I hung around people who were doing these things. I’m not making this stuff up. I know what they told me they do. [...]

One of my first dates with a witch was on a satanic altar, and I didn’t know it. I mean, there’s little blood there and stuff like that. … We went to a movie and then had a midnight picnic on a satanic altar."

http://thinkprogress.org/2010/09/18/christine-odonnell-witchcraft/
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But some of my mostest fun & memorable dates started out that way. I think that anybody who allows a little blood (& stuff like that) to stand in the way of an enjoyable evening isn't really trying very hard to let the good times roll, you know?

[I think it's fair to point out that when she shared this, she was a tyro with a mere thirty annum behind her, and she was referring to events of her striplinghood.]

Posted by: Bob-S | September 18, 2010 10:35 PM | Report abuse

I hear you asking, "Bob, how is it that you so casually accept the perverse explorations of young women into areas dark and dangerous?"

My answer, simple and short: "Agnes Scott College"

Posted by: Bob-S | September 18, 2010 10:45 PM | Report abuse

Bob-S-just want to let you know the only reason I'm still awake is to see what you might come up with next. Please take that as a compliment.

But now I must say toodles boodle and sweet dreams. Back to the big city tomorrow.

Posted by: frostbitten1 | September 18, 2010 11:00 PM | Report abuse

Saith tao:
Soul searched and found not wanting.
No amends forthcoming.
The way is easy.

[To which I thought to say, "I'm pleased for you, proud of you, and possibly the slightest bit envious of you." But I realized you were probably speaking more universally.]

Which led to one of my favorite couplet of postings ever:

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from the mountain top
there is but one way to go
blessed are the climbers

Posted by: DNA_Girl | September 18, 2010 9:43 PM | Report abuse
- - -
and blessed are the sleds.

Posted by: -tao- | September 18, 2010 9:50 PM
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Bless you both!!

Posted by: Bob-S | September 18, 2010 11:30 PM | Report abuse

I sling so much tongue-in-cheekiness here that I feel compelled to say that I really mean it when I say that this is (to me) sublime:

from the mountain top
there is but one way to go
blessed are the climbers

Thank you, DNA_Girl.

Posted by: Bob-S | September 18, 2010 11:42 PM | Report abuse

yellojkt,
I thought you were just being snarky about Raleigh. Actually I spent a good deal of time at NCSU while a student at the blue place, and my car thought a super-spiffy dealer's garage in downtown Raleigh was its vacation resort.
slyness,
One Saturday evening, my car was parked in a faculty spot at the building south of Kenan Stadium. I had suffered a yellowjacket sting on the hand while near the coast in the morning, and after unloading some stuff, sauntered over to the Infirmary to see about my swollen arm. They incarcerated me, no chance to move the car or fetch a toothbrush. But they were nice enough to call the campus cops (and the faculty got word, too), so my car was there when I was released.

kbertocci, Bahia Honda is one of those wonderful places that people drive right past in their misguided rush to Key West. It's like the way a spectacular rock-garden plant, growing at a wide spot in the highway just west of Cody, Wyoming, went undiscovered until about 1980. Philadelphians and Jerseyites must feel the same way.

Bob S,
O'Donnell's witchcraft thing reminds me of other religious enthusiasts I've known. Not so much meeting a self-proclaimed witch or satanist or whatever, but taking it somewhat seriously.

In the alligator dept., when I worked in Gainesville, I had a bonafide crocodilian expert/enthusiast as a colleague and housemate. For a guy who wanted to smell dirty to put the gators at ease, he was a fine housemate. He cleaned and shaved for his flight to a new job in Papua New Guinea via Paris, where he had some scholarly things to do.

A different colleague, who was trapping turtles, was ambushed by something like a 13-foot gator. He managed to fight it off, get back in the boat, put the boat on the trailer, and drive nearly an hour back to town. He was, obviously, in shock. Relocated to Wyoming.

I'm hoping to hear from someone who knows about gator sizes. The Gainesville Sun doesn't seem to have contacted the gator guy at the Florida Fish and Wildlife Conservation Commission, another former housemate.

A famous engraving by de Bry was long accused of showing too-large gators. Others, maybe Francis Harper, who knew Okefenokee and spent an inordinate amount of effort following the tracks of William Bartram, thought de Bry was probably accurate. For the de Bry image, here:
http://www.aoti76.dsl.pipex.com/earlyprinting/de_bry_2.html


Posted by: DaveoftheCoonties | September 19, 2010 12:02 AM | Report abuse

In 1980 my daughter was in a small private high school in Charleston, SC, preparing to apply to colleges. We talked to the school counselor for suggestions.

This school had only been co-ed for two years, (previously all boys,) and the best she could come up with was "Agnes Scott."

We drove over and looked at it -- er, no thank you! Peeling paint and mildew just didn't do the trick for us! Hope they have scrubbed it up a bit since then.

Posted by: nellie4 | September 19, 2010 12:50 AM | Report abuse

Good evening, all.

Just back from the Rush show with Scottynuke -- we had a great time, and though the members have clearly aged, their instrumental virtuosity seems undiminished.

I think the nap during the intermission helped (I'm not saying whose).

bc

Posted by: -bc- | September 19, 2010 1:50 AM | Report abuse

I'll just love bc and scottynuke, and their dear darlings, and not judge the naps.

Posted by: Yoki | September 19, 2010 2:12 AM | Report abuse

@Jony, Sorry to hear about your friend, What your friend needs is a consultation with a personal injury lawyer, here is the one that I know of http://bit.ly/9be1LW who offers no charge consultation, hope he feels better soon

Posted by: clarablan19 | September 19, 2010 3:13 AM | Report abuse

Bob-S,
I've known a few Scotties and you severely underestimate the evil they are capable of. Give the coven of Satanic witches any day.

Posted by: yellojkt | September 19, 2010 4:52 AM | Report abuse

SCC: Give me the coven...

As for Christine O'Donnell, her stance on m@sturbation has lost her the crucial on@nist vote which, if popular lore is to be believed, constitutes 90% of the electorate. The other 10% sing that song in the shower.

Posted by: yellojkt | September 19, 2010 5:01 AM | Report abuse

Had to add some Typographical symbols to get past the WDF. Arrrgh! Let me be the first to wish all ye scurvy scum a happy Talk Like A Pirate Day.

Posted by: yellojkt | September 19, 2010 5:03 AM | Report abuse

God loves us so much more than we can imagine through Him that died for all, Jesus Christ.

Good morning, friends. I find it quite appropriate that O'Donell has dabbled with the dark side. The Tea Party's base is fundamentally one of hatred. The confusion for me is why is everyone shocked.

I would love to go to Sunday school and worship service this morning, won't you join me?

Have a beautiful and blessed day, folks, and love to all.

Thanks Slyness.

Posted by: cmyth4u | September 19, 2010 6:47 AM | Report abuse

'Morning, Boodle.

The subject of today's thread is dreams. I woke up this morning at the tail end of one of those epic, never-ending kind of dreams. They are characterized by seeming to be quite long, with lots of changes of scene and lots of different people coming and going, and strange stuff happening that doesn't seem to have a theme, a kind of dis-jointed volkswanderung. Mine seemed to be set in a large coastal city, although a few blocks inland, don't ask me why. There was some sort of carnival or street fair located on a vacant lot, and lots of people around. In some strange sort of way, I was vaguely friendly with some sort of criminal gang, although I wans't actually a part of it. There was a lot of walking around, and at one point I had to walk a long distance to the other side of town to a parking lot where my car was. I have no idea why. Then there was a girl working at one of the carnival booths whom I liked, but nothing ever developed with that theme. Then the criminal gang thing turned into some sort of gang war, and there was panic and people running through something like an arboretum. One of the gang people was Eddie Murphy (I swear I'm not making this up), who held a gun to my head and I thought was going to kill me, but at the last second (for no apparent reason) he didn't, not quite like it had been a joke. But then we were standing in line at some sort of hamburger stand, and I didn't have any money money, and he bought me something to eat (I don't know what). And at some point in the story I was in the water in a harbor near some docks, and there were lots of sharks around and I was very scared. But I don't know what happened, but I was on land again and there were sirens, and the cops were coming, and I had to hide from them because a lot of (my) gang friends were dead, although I had nothing to do with it.

Then when I actually did wake up, I had recollections of other dreams I have had in the past, the main one of which involved driving around the outskirts of Atlantic City (NJ), but nothing remotely like the real Atlantic City but a completly fictional one with a causeway and a stoplight with the ocean on one side and a small bay on the other (neither accurate). I was approaching it from the south (how I know that I have no idea). Then I was driving around a small seaside town that was Brigantine(NJ) only it wasn't anything like Brigantine, but I "knew" a lot of the houses and the people who lived there.

Posted by: Curmudgeon5 | September 19, 2010 8:47 AM | Report abuse

2

And then for some reason I was in Philadelphia about five blocks south of City Hall and walking north. I knew the street names and the buildings and all the geography (although of course it wasn't remotely like the real Philadelphia in those locations).
Then there was the recollection of a dream where I was driving all around Washington and going to pick up a friend coming in from out of town. I was driving on all sorts of expressways that don't exist, negotiating expressway entrances and exits that don't exist, and meeting my friend (I have no idea who he or she was), who was standing outside of a big building that was a museum (but not any actual Smithsonian building) at the intersection of two streets that meet at an acute angle.

I have no clue what any of it means, but (like this post) it just went on forever.

I have dreams like this maybe once or twice a year. All in color, of course. And whatever these dreams mean, I am always haunted by them all day long, and sometimes for several days.

OK, your turn.

Posted by: Curmudgeon5 | September 19, 2010 8:54 AM | Report abuse

I just heard on NPR that Jack Parsons who invented solid fuels (making space travel possible) and helped found the JPL was a satanist. NASA named a crater on the moon in his honor. On the dark side.

Posted by: DNA_Girl | September 19, 2010 9:00 AM | Report abuse

Avast!
A good Talk Like a Pirate Day to ye!

I'd thought to mention that last night me buckos, but had swab decks when I made port. Arrrrrrr!

bc

Posted by: -bc- | September 19, 2010 9:17 AM | Report abuse

SCC: "had to swab decks"

Mudge, I almost never remember my dreams. But when I do, it's usually ate something like a pizza with everything right before I went to bed.

But for today, I got nothin'.

Ding, dong, the well is dead.

bc

Posted by: -bc- | September 19, 2010 9:24 AM | Report abuse

Good mornin' me boodle buckos, arrrrr.

I heard that NPR bit too DNA_Girl. Could explain why he's not more famous. I mean credit for founding, discovery, or invention does seem to go to the person with the most acceptable back story. Probably why so many are manufactured.

Mudge-when I wake up from dreams like that I usually have to remember Mr. F has absolutely no idea the many wrongs he perpetrated in them, so there's no use picking a fight.

Later gators. Back to St. Paul today, post op appt. tomorrow where I hope to be liberated from the last of the uncomfortable equipment. Seems like we have a lot of boodlers on the dl these days. Hope everyone is progressing satisfactorily! I for one wish braces and other equipment came in more colors. It's not just young people who would prefer neon green over the typical white velcroed elasto-plastic combo.

Posted by: frostbitten1 | September 19, 2010 9:46 AM | Report abuse

Arrrr, 'Mudge me hearty, strain ye grog a wee bit better afore ye slumber next time, shiver me timbers! *L*

Aye, that salty dog bc 'twas a fine shipmate for last eve's festivities. 'Tis a wee complaint -- that landlubber Lee missed his chance to celebrate TLAPD a couple o' bells early!

(Aieeee, can't keep that up, even after two cups of coffee!)

It really was a great show. The boys are specializing in silliness these days (when they're not completely rockin' out). They started each set with a short (but very well-produced) video centered on the "Time Machine" concept. The first had a oompah band, "RASH," in a diner, playing a barely recognizable version of "Spirit of Radio." Lee played the monacle-wearing proprietor, Peart was an Irish-Catholic cop straight outta Central Casting, and a fatsuit-wearing Lifeson was a mad genius inventor with a sausage fetish. All three criticized the band's "crap," and Lifeson rolled out his supreme invention, the "Gefilter," to try and make the band listenable. After hilarious disco and country versions of "Spirit of Radio," Lifeson got the settings right and the power chords flowed out. He then hit the "Time Machine" button by mistake, and the boys hit the stage to thunderous applause.

*more to come*

Posted by: Scottynuke | September 19, 2010 9:49 AM | Report abuse

Mudge -- actually, that reminded me of all the Luis Bunuel films I've ever seen. And then there was that *very* weird film called "Last Year in Marienbad" that put me to sleep almost immediately. Yep, kinda like that.

The laundry's done, but the plants have yet to be watered. They must wait until my back calms down a bit.

Going off to a friend's to watch the Redskins game, but I *really* want the Lions to beat the Iggles today, and that game comes first. Well, sure, I know what you're gonna say, but, well, the home girl can't help it. And I've always been a fan of the underdog.

Arrrrr.

*snort*

Posted by: ftb3 | September 19, 2010 10:20 AM | Report abuse

I've had EXACTLY that dream except instead of Eddie Murphy it was Joe Piscipo.

Posted by: yellojkt | September 19, 2010 10:31 AM | Report abuse

Man, I hate being mistaken for gold when I am naught but a lowly sulfide of iron.

Oh. Wait. My bad. That's talk like a pyrite.

Posted by: RD_Padouk | September 19, 2010 10:45 AM | Report abuse

I dream of the same thing I dream of every night. Taking over the world.

That and really pretty ladies.

Posted by: RD_Padouk | September 19, 2010 10:47 AM | Report abuse

RD -- now *that* was funny.

*double snort*

Posted by: ftb3 | September 19, 2010 10:52 AM | Report abuse

'morning all. Pyrite is Canada's gold. Jacques Cartier, great cartographer but not so great a geologist, brought back loads of it in France from is 1535 voyage. Ooops. Old Jack died poor, no wonder.
We're heading for Montreal for an Alouettes' game in a few minutes. When I bought the tickets in the pre-season I picked a game against the Esks, thinking of their long-standing rivalry with the Als. Just now the Esks are 2-8, averaging 35 point against them. Last 2 weeks: 52-5 and 36-20 losses against Calgary. And Calvillo, the Als regular QB, will play after 2 weeks on the DL. It might not be pretty. Oh well.

Posted by: shrieking_denizen | September 19, 2010 11:16 AM | Report abuse

Arrrgh....

...... acceptable back ... stories? S'pose that's why so many are manufactured, like Joseph (VP of of 'NO' jobs czar)Robinette Biden's, John ('No' JFK butt, did serve in Vietnam butt, didn't throw his medal over the fence butt, did don a hunters cap butt, doesn't favor them right wingers carrin', just butts ) F(us). Kerry, Harry (can you spare us your last dime, get your land here) (G)Reid, D. NV, N. (who put the R in democRat) Pughlousi, and Sarah ( WE will just let the B******* create the back story and then watch 'em eat their own cubs) Palin?

Americans for Countering the Serial Mal-Practice of bloggers n' disaffected Boodlers

Posted by: RichNomore | September 19, 2010 11:20 AM | Report abuse

Study, study, study ..., makes perfect.

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/disaffected

.... the story continues.....

Posted by: RichNomore | September 19, 2010 11:36 AM | Report abuse

shrieking_denizen,
didn't he actually do that *twice*? I thought I remember reading that somewhere.

Argh! Come, cheer up me lads, 'tis to plunder we steer! Or perhaps brunch.

Posted by: cowhand214 | September 19, 2010 12:05 PM | Report abuse

Avast, me hearties!! Any o' ye wondering who's been sneakin' a skin o' rum in the Fox Sports control room? The Chi-Den signal is all widdershins...

Posted by: Scottynuke | September 19, 2010 1:13 PM | Report abuse

The scurvy dog in the Fox control room has walked the plank -- rudder amidships for the Chi-Dal game. (noticing my SCC) Arrrr, who's put the grog butt in the water barrel's place? :-)

Posted by: Scottynuke | September 19, 2010 1:29 PM | Report abuse

Just back for working at one of my favorite customers, her gardens are so lovely and always a surprise each time I visit, today her fall crocus/colchium (sp) not sure which was in bloom, surrounded by plumbago just stunning.

Note to any that may be interested, dmdspouse attended the Roger Waters/Wall concert last night and was very impressed.
A little tip though plan ahead - they paid $350 a ticket! Yikes.

Glad to read bc and Scotty had a good time at the Rush concert.

Posted by: dmd3 | September 19, 2010 1:43 PM | Report abuse

Okay, I've done my best to provoke rain. Mr. T and I washed my car a little while ago. The bug smears on the windshield were distracting so it was time.

Ah cain't taalk pi-raate so Ah'll jes' keep on taalkin Southun.

Posted by: slyness | September 19, 2010 1:53 PM | Report abuse

plumbago? So *that's* what's wrong with my back . . . . .

Actually, slyness, it may not be rain that you'll be provoking, but, um, well ... birds. Happens to me all the time. *sigh*

Posted by: ftb3 | September 19, 2010 1:57 PM | Report abuse

I was talking to my French friend about "r"s the other day - how, to my ear, she drops them altogether. She agreed they are more in the throat, less emphasized in French, and more so here. I asked her what she would do on Talk Like a Pirate Day. Then I had to explain, but I know she didn't get it, ghweally.

Posted by: Jumper1 | September 19, 2010 2:01 PM | Report abuse

Scotty, I think the reason that Chicago-Denver signal is coming in all widdershins is because the Bears are playing Dallas.

Posted by: Curmudgeon5 | September 19, 2010 2:04 PM | Report abuse

Not just a good time, dmd, a GREAT time!! :-))))

Their first set was heavy on fan favorites, and after a intermission because they're "getting older by the second," they roared through the entire "Moving Pictures" album. The second set intro was also hilarious -- the ersatz "Rash" trying to lip-sync "Tom Sawyer." Lee was a haughty English video director, with Peart as his cameraman and Lifeson still in the fat suit, this time spoofing the band's producer, Ray Daniels. Lifeson's character brought some barmaids to the shoot, and they kept carrying large containers of beer around the set. At one point they walk in front of the camera and Lee's character yells, "Stop moving pitchers!" Har har har. :-))) One of the barmaids hits the "Time Machine" button, and the band flips between infants, the real band, chimpanzees, cavemen (in 2112 B.C., hee hee), and then the real band playing each other's instruments before the real thing returned to the stage.

The encore started with Lifeson & Lee tossing T-shirts to the crowd, and then...

POLKA TIME!!

They polka-ed through about 5 or 6 measures before slipping neatly into "La Villa Strangiato." They closed things out with a reggae-fied "Working Man."

First-class show, made all the better with having a first-class friend along to enjoy it with. :-)))

Posted by: Scottynuke | September 19, 2010 2:10 PM | Report abuse

Thank you, Mudge, I thought I was doing something very wrong.

Posted by: Jumper1 | September 19, 2010 2:11 PM | Report abuse

Plumbago, the native plant, was present in a yard full of natives I visited this week. Just checked the name, which lead to some puzzlement. The Flora of North America online explained the situation. It seems that the species ranges across the tropics, worldwide (including Florida and Hawaii), but went by two names:

"Plumbago zeylanica and P. scandens, both Linnaean species, have heretofore been treated as distinct, the former name applied exclusively to Old World plants, the latter to New World specimens. John Edmondson (pers. comm.) indicates that he believes this “could be a classic case of New World and Old World taxonomists each doing their own thing.” Plants in herbaria under these two names appear indistinguishable."

Here's a page of photos from Hawaii:
http://www.hear.org/starr/images/species/?q=plumbago+zeylanica&o=plants

Posted by: DaveoftheCoonties | September 19, 2010 2:19 PM | Report abuse

Cutler confused me... Yeah, that's the ticket! :-)

Posted by: Scottynuke | September 19, 2010 2:21 PM | Report abuse

This is the variety that is hardy here, if in the right location - spectacular ground cover in the fall as the folliage begins to turn to reds.

http://plants.makeitgreen.ca/NetPS-Engine.asp?CCID=11090002&page=pdp&PID=4432

Posted by: dmd3 | September 19, 2010 2:27 PM | Report abuse

*don'tjinxit* *don'tjinxit* *don'tjinxit*

Lions up 17-7 towards end of 2nd.

*cautiously optimistic*

Posted by: ftb3 | September 19, 2010 2:29 PM | Report abuse

dmd3, here's another page with Ceratostigma, same family as Plumbago.
http://www.floridata.com/ref/c/cera_plu.cfm

Posted by: DaveoftheCoonties | September 19, 2010 2:35 PM | Report abuse

So far out of the first nine games, my picks are losing 7 of them. TBG is leading 4-5 at the halves.

OOps, Ravens scored. looks like 3-6 for most of us at the moment.

Posted by: Curmudgeon5 | September 19, 2010 2:46 PM | Report abuse

Well, the Lions are down 21-17, but it's still early in the 3rd quarter, so I'm *still* cautiously optimistic. Are they somewhere on your list, Mudge? I mean in the ultimate *win* column?

Posted by: ftb3 | September 19, 2010 3:12 PM | Report abuse

Sorry, ftb, I went wit' my Iggles today. Can't believe the Titans, Panthers and Vikes didn't show up for their home games.

Just saw an ad for a very special CSI guest-starring Justin Bieber.

Posted by: Curmudgeon5 | September 19, 2010 3:20 PM | Report abuse

A broadside on the decline & death of the English language from Weingarten today:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/09/13/AR2010091304476.html

Posted by: Bob-S | September 19, 2010 3:32 PM | Report abuse

Is this for real? OMGosh...

Members of U.S. platoon in Afghanistan accused of killing civilians for sport

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/09/18/AR2010091803935.html

Posted by: MiddleofthePacific | September 19, 2010 4:17 PM | Report abuse

I'm a bit in shock after reading that.

Posted by: Jumper1 | September 19, 2010 4:40 PM | Report abuse

Haven't seen a Redskins pass like that one (64 yards) in 10 years.

Posted by: Curmudgeon5 | September 19, 2010 4:53 PM | Report abuse

Dearborn High School Football update.

Go Pioneers! They are now 4-0 (2-0 in conference) after a 30-12 win over Dearborn Fordson this week.

I also skimmed the story on the Afghan platoon that apparently had some folks doing joy killing. I'll have to read it in detail later, after getting the willies when skimming.

Posted by: baldinho | September 19, 2010 4:57 PM | Report abuse

Maybe when I stand for nothing, I will fall for anything. Soldiers stand for something, maybe I should be careful what I believe when nothing comes along and pretends to stand for something.

Posted by: RichNomore | September 19, 2010 5:19 PM | Report abuse

I haven't read the article about joy killing in Afghanistan - but it doesn't surprise me. This is why I am so opposed to war - it makes ordinary, decent people do horrible things. But it's nothing new.

And Caesar's spirit, raging for revenge,
With Ate by his side come hot from hell,
Shall in these confines with a monarch's voice
Cry "Havoc!" and let slip the dogs of war,
That this foul deed shall smell above the earth
With carrion men, groaning for burial.
(Shakespeare)

Posted by: seasea1 | September 19, 2010 6:10 PM | Report abuse

RichNoMore: are you for or against joy killing of innocents? Trying to set your baseline here.

I am not. I am not a soldier in Afghanistan, but I know a couple relatives who are. Maybe I'll ask them the same question.

Posted by: baldinho | September 19, 2010 6:34 PM | Report abuse

Bald, I've read RNM's last post five times and still have no clue what it means. None. Can't even form a tentative hypothesis.

Posted by: Curmudgeon5 | September 19, 2010 6:37 PM | Report abuse

Scotty, please tell Brady to get on the stick. Thank you.

Posted by: Curmudgeon5 | September 19, 2010 6:46 PM | Report abuse

*Expletive*

Posted by: Curmudgeon5 | September 19, 2010 6:54 PM | Report abuse

Saturday I the wife and the boy took the Mount Washington Cog Railway up to the summit.

Temps: 45.
Visibility: sunny
Wind: 5-15 MPH from the east.

That is about a 9 on a scale of 10 regarding potential weather up there. It was a hoot.

Posted by: baldinho | September 19, 2010 6:54 PM | Report abuse

Mudge: my nephew is on his way back from Afghanistan to see his newborn son. I am certain that he will be as angry as is humanly possible not just at the publicity that case will get, but at the actual people that seem to have done terrible things.

I think it is safe to assume that at least a lot of the supposed acts happened, since there are reports of confessions and "snitches", for the lack of a better word.

There will be many folks that will be angry just at the publicity and not at all at the acts. I don't understand those folks.

Posted by: baldinho | September 19, 2010 6:58 PM | Report abuse

I drop in to hear about football, and find RichNoMore still stuck to the boodle -- sort of like toilet paper on the bottom of a shoe.

Following along, and as incomprehensible as ever.

Posted by: nellie4 | September 19, 2010 7:06 PM | Report abuse

NNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNGGGGGGGGGGGGGG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Curmudgeon5 | September 19, 2010 7:26 PM | Report abuse

My poor Esks. Another humiliating loss. Sad to see a once-mighty team struggle.

Posted by: Yoki | September 19, 2010 7:41 PM | Report abuse

Seasea, thank you for your 6:10. I am not going to read the article because I suffer from hypertension as it is and reading the headline already contributed to it. War does not only destroy the enemy, it also destroys us.

Posted by: gmbka | September 19, 2010 7:43 PM | Report abuse

*sighhhhhhhhhhhhhh*

And 50% of the games were upsets.

Posted by: Curmudgeon5 | September 19, 2010 7:44 PM | Report abuse

Well, at least bc and I can point to the concert as compensation for today's games... *SIGHHHHHHH*

Posted by: Scottynuke | September 19, 2010 8:13 PM | Report abuse

I will not mention football - ugly! I am very happy that the well is dead (?) but as it has become the thing that wouldn't die, it's hard to truly believe it won't just decide to blow some dark night when we least expect it.

Totally off-Kit story. We visited with "S"'s daughter this weekend. She lives about an hour north of NYC. There was a Civil War reenactment nearby which we went to yesterday afternoon. We got to meet Mr. Lincoln himself, which was quite a thrill and sorta spooky because the resemblance was very good. The battle was well done and noisy and the Union camp we visited was extensive with both tents and cabins. They use this spot every year for a reenactment as it's on the grounds of a museum. It was my first time at one of these things and a lot of fun, especially because the North won the battle ;-)

Posted by: badsneakers | September 19, 2010 8:22 PM | Report abuse

I suppose war sets the stage for the opportunity to do heinous things. It's just incredible to me that the U.S. military was not on top of this right away.

Posted by: MiddleofthePacific | September 19, 2010 10:53 PM | Report abuse

i read that story, motp. it will be interesting to see how the Army defends its actions after being contacted about these incidents by the father of one of the soldiers that has been accused of wrongdoing. the descriptions in the article are rather disturbing.

Posted by: -jack- | September 19, 2010 11:17 PM | Report abuse

It is all too reminiscent of our own (now disbanded) Airborne. The hopeful thing, I think, it is that such brutality is so very rare. Most soldiers are disciplined and honourable, and we are all shocked and saddened by learning of the outliers.

Posted by: Yoki | September 19, 2010 11:48 PM | Report abuse

'Rogue elements'. That's what it always is.

Posted by: yellojkt | September 20, 2010 5:53 AM | Report abuse

God loves us so much more than we can imagine through Him that died for all, Jesus Christ.

Good morning, friends. Well, a lot of bad stuff to deal with this week. It's always sad when soldiers turn rogue. Here a sheriff's daughter found in a storage unit dead. The list goes on, and on.

And then there's me. I'm trying to do missionary work, and trying to help. Many times that is seen as a bad thing. Many times that is not called a good thing. Many times I am despised and hated. What to do folks? Pray, and keep going. That's what we all have to do, for the one before us never stopped, but moved forward, regardless of the consequences, and all for us. Jesus.

Have a wonderful Monday, folks, and love to all.

Posted by: cmyth4u | September 20, 2010 6:13 AM | Report abuse

Keep doing what you do, Cassandra. The world needs more helpers.

Some dame in Delaware getting some ink. Good time to listen to this.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LIZIBm2QGaM

Posted by: baldinho | September 20, 2010 6:56 AM | Report abuse

Good morning all, and happy Monday. Mr. T and I walked in the dark; there weren't quite so many webs to hit me in the face.

Cassandra, keep on keeping on, please, in your inimitable way. We need you to do what you're doing!

Sorry about the Redskins. And the Panthers. And the Tar Heels. It just wasn't a good weekend, was it?

Anyway, ham biscuits and hot and cold beverages on the ready room table, to hold us over till MsJS arrives. Enjoy, folks!

Posted by: slyness | September 20, 2010 7:15 AM | Report abuse

Cassandra!! *HUGSSS*

*yet-another-Monday-and-not-a-whole-lot-to-say Grover waves* :-)

Posted by: Scottynuke | September 20, 2010 7:40 AM | Report abuse

'Morning, Boodle.

"America’s Next Great Pundit, Season 2

"This is a contest aimed at people who've read a column in a newspaper or watched a talking head on TV and thought: "Hey, I could do that." It's for people who may already regularly voice their opinions -- but wouldn't mind a bigger audience. It's for people who want to influence the national debate..."

Because, hey, last year's winner did so well.

And meanwhile the WaPo's opinion pollsters, having drunk their 93rd Red Bull in 8 hours, continue on their frenzied pace:

"Opinion Poll: What do you think of China's bodyguards?"

Because, yanno, it's all we've been talking about all weekend.

Tomorrow's poll: Pants: Putting them on one leg at a time: Efficiency or simply lack of imagination?

and

"Igor lashes Bermuda: Should hurricanes be banned? What's your take?"

I just took a count on the WaPo front page: There are 11 questiion headlines, including no less than 8 that ask yiou The Reader, for your opinion.

I don't know how to tell you this, dear reader -- and please don't take this the wrong way -- but I really don't want to know what your opinion is, okay? I've had it up to here with unsolicited people's opinions. I try to read the newspaper first for actual facts. Then, sometimes, for both humor and for serious, competantly put-together analysis. But if I want to know what my gashat nextdoor neighbor thinks about a subject in which he has zero knowledge or expertise, I would go ASK my gashat nextdoor neighbor.

Posted by: curmudgeon6 | September 20, 2010 8:52 AM | Report abuse

mudge,

Bravo, but you've posted your application essay to Next Great Pundit Season 2 in the wrong place. It goes here:

http://projects.washingtonpost.com/pundit-contest/

Posted by: yellojkt | September 20, 2010 9:00 AM | Report abuse

Good morning, you all.

Not much to say here except that I watched the first of the new HBO "Boardwalk" series last night and enjoyed it. I'm not a fan of the vampire folks nor the "hung" guy, but for some reason I am drawn to American gangster stories. This one begins with the beginning of Prohibition and is set in Atlantic City. I don't recognize any of the actors so far.....but some of you may. As in most gangster stories, there is much blood. A painful beating of a pregnant wife with her husband getting his just desserts. Lots of vintage cars and trucks. Costumes are interesting. Women's Temperance Union getting good coverage.

I hope the news about our soldiers doing vile things is not true, will wait and see how it all pans out.

Too bad about our 'skins, close tho.

Posted by: VintageLady | September 20, 2010 9:29 AM | Report abuse

Good morning, all.

Opinion Poll: What should the next Opinion Poll be?

- Opinion Polls: Pandering or a simple waste of time?

- Opinion Polls: Do they reenforce your negative view of humanity?

- Opinion Polls: How much would you pay for an online subscription to provide your Opinions to us on a daily basis (!!!on *any* topic you want!!! Wow!)?
- $5
- $2
- $1
- $.01 (common value of thought)
- I know, like, really?

bc

Posted by: -bc- | September 20, 2010 9:29 AM | Report abuse

VL, I thought the first episode of B-Empire very good, in part because I grew up visting Atlantic City in the era right before the gambling casinoes destroyed wht little was left of that city. All the boardwalk scenes and the architecture and details are just fabulous. Remember the scene where Nucky looks into the window of the storefront that displays premature babies? Well, right next to it was a Frahlinger's salt water taffy store. I remember that store! And it looked exactly the same in 1955 as it did in 1920. The entrance and foyer of the Ritz Carlton are exactly as I remember them, too, as are the amusement piers. Love the cars. The only technical error I found were the motorboats are little too modern (the one they used to dump badguy husband Hans Schroeder was a 1950's design, but nobody in the world but me and six other crackpots would know that).

The real Nucky Johnson (called "Thompson" in the series) was born and raised in Mays Landing, where I went swimming as a kid and where one of our favorite wineries is now. (I had lunch in Mays Landing this past summer). The booze hijacking scene took place on what had to be the old Black Horse Pike outside of Hammonton (acutally about 30 miles away from AC, halfway between AC and Philly). (Why they were going through Hammonton if they were heading to New York is still a mystery to me, however; it's in the wrong direction.) But this is all really nit-picky stuff. Steve Buschemi is great. If only there was a scene where he went bowling with John Goodman and Jeff Bridges.

Of course, it just wouldn't be HBO without a gratuitous reverse cowgirl scene. I doubt Buschemi EVER envisioned that would ever happen to him in his movie career. Is this a great country or what?

Posted by: curmudgeon6 | September 20, 2010 9:47 AM | Report abuse

Opinion polls have been a staple of the Weingarten chat for years. Just sayin'.

Posted by: yellojkt | September 20, 2010 9:48 AM | Report abuse

Billy Bob Neck searching for the truth-

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eOtR1IyiLjw

Posted by: kguy1 | September 20, 2010 9:51 AM | Report abuse

There is no such thing as a gratuitous reverse cowgirl scene.

Posted by: yellojkt | September 20, 2010 9:54 AM | Report abuse

Anybody able to parse the headline "Bring in on at 'Hair Wars'? Because I can't. But stringing together three prepositions in a row may be a new world's record. I don't think I can do it. Can you, TBG?

Posted by: curmudgeon6 | September 20, 2010 9:55 AM | Report abuse

Dunno, yellow, I think many grateful men were watching her last night :-). IMO

There's that opinion coming through.

'mudge, I was astonished at the premie facility as a store front! Loved the tenderness shown to the babe by the nurse, tenderness in the eyes of Nucky, too. So glad you knew the area, keep us posted on the land/seascape of the town, you make it even more interesting.

Posted by: VintageLady | September 20, 2010 10:16 AM | Report abuse

Mudge,
It's either a typo or another case of WaPo copy editors being completely tone deaf to ten-year-old faux teen lingo.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0204946/

I mean it's no '9-11 is a joke' (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/12/02/AR2009120201455.html), but it's an embarrassment worthy of Weingarten's weekend eulogy for the English language.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/09/13/AR2010091304476.html

Mote, meet speck.

Posted by: yellojkt | September 20, 2010 10:16 AM | Report abuse

I will be forever grateful that our local governments never allowed gambling at my old stomping ground, Virginia Beach and we have always had a boardwalk there. Lots of beer joints and dance halls, but they always were good about carding us. Now VB is all spiffy and no more wonderful oceanfront boardinghouses with great porches and ping pong tables for rainy days, those were the days my friends.....

Posted by: VintageLady | September 20, 2010 10:27 AM | Report abuse

Morning all.

Well, it's a Monday alright. Yesterday I noticed that my car key could not fit into the driver's side lock. Luckily, it worked on the passenger side. So I took the car (13 year old Mazda Millennia) to the shop, where we tried out the old WD-40 standby. Nope, that didn't work, either. Looks like someone tried to jimmie the lock and now it's busted. Which means I have to leave the poor buggy at the shop for a half day sometime in the future and pay them a couple hundred bucks to take out the door panel and install the new lock mechanism, which will require a new key just for that lock. And, in case anyone is wondering, *no* I don't have one of them buttons to push to open the door. That think costs at least $300, and I don't think I feel like paying that much money for something I don't really need. Um, until now.

*sigh*

Too bad about the Skins and the Lions. Ah, well . . . . .

Posted by: ftb3 | September 20, 2010 10:29 AM | Report abuse

RNM, I get what you're talking about. A perfect mirror perfectly reflects that which is in front of it, but as true perfection is likely not found in household mirrors, unless the reflection of such an imperfect mirror is perfectly diffused, the reflection is an illusion. When one is of two minds and diffusion is inherent, reflecting on the problem results in additional distortion and delusion. Right?

Posted by: LostInThought | September 20, 2010 10:30 AM | Report abuse

Lit, you are a blessing.....

Posted by: VintageLady | September 20, 2010 10:38 AM | Report abuse

One of the greatest movie quotes of all time:

"You should have seen the Atlantic Ocean back then."
-Burt Lancaster, 'Atlantic City' (1980)

The movie is also worth it for the opening scene where Susan Sarandon rubbing lemons all over herself.

Posted by: yellojkt | September 20, 2010 10:40 AM | Report abuse

SCC: Put an 'is' between 'Sarandon' and 'rubbing'. I'd hate to get stopped by the TypoPolice.

Posted by: yellojkt | September 20, 2010 10:42 AM | Report abuse

Thanks VL. When I was little, my mother used to tell me how appropriate it was that I was born during Happy Hour. For a long time, I thought that meant I brought happiness to those around me. About 14, I realized she meant I could drive someone to drink.

Posted by: LostInThought | September 20, 2010 10:44 AM | Report abuse

I may have misjudged Alphonse D'Amato. Hear him unleash his inner New Yawker on a Fox talking head jerk-

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/09/17/al-damato-unloads-on-fell_n_721104.html

Posted by: kguy1 | September 20, 2010 10:44 AM | Report abuse


Speaking of movies, the my bride and I took in EasyA this weekend. Well crafted, witty dialogue and a decent metamessage, not to mention belly laugh opportunities. Even the chatter of the targeted teen audience could not spoil the experience.

We went looking for light hearted fare after a hard week and were pleasantly surprised at the depth.

Posted by: edbyronadams | September 20, 2010 10:49 AM | Report abuse

Just saw this item about the Cubs -- it's amazing something such as this hasn't happened earlier:

http://bats.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/09/20/cubs-bizarre-injury-adds-to-scrutiny-of-maple-bats/

:-O

Posted by: Scottynuke | September 20, 2010 11:30 AM | Report abuse

Scotty: It was only a matter of when, not if, something like that was going to happen. I've watched several games where those maple bats split and flew out onto the field. The old hickory or ash bats tend to shatter rather than break into big splinters. That player was in real danger of suffering a collaped lung. A few more inches higher and it might have gotten him in the neck and that would have been REAL bad.

Posted by: ebtnut | September 20, 2010 11:40 AM | Report abuse

S'nuke, that article brings Thurmon Munson to mind. Wonder what kind of bat that was.

Posted by: LostInThought | September 20, 2010 11:52 AM | Report abuse

It was Thurman Munson, wasn't it? Why they have that throat piece on a catcher's mask? Mudge?

Posted by: LostInThought | September 20, 2010 12:04 PM | Report abuse

The name Thurmon Munson makes me think of Herman Munster and we know what type of bat Grandpa was.

And the greatest broken bat of all time is Roy Hobb's Wonderboy.

Posted by: yellojkt | September 20, 2010 12:10 PM | Report abuse

The St. Pete Times has a story on Republican gubernatorial candidate Rick Scott having known about misdoings at his health care company. Scott's response is that the warnings amounted to "boilerplate" language. He may have some credibility. The story quotes a health care economist who's studied Columbia/HCA. Dr. Kleinke's comments are worth reading.
http://www.tampabay.com/news/health/columbiahca-reports-warned-rick-scott-of-potential-legal-problems/1122581

The Big Swell at the beach yesterday was a bust due to onshore wind. But there was lots of runup and backwash and some big, crunchy shorebreak. One enterprising surfer was doing nicely on the Waikiki-like reef at Golden Sands.

Posted by: DaveoftheCoonties | September 20, 2010 12:44 PM | Report abuse

Hmm. That St. Pete Times story is by Marc Caputo and Scott Hiaasen. They are with the Times/Miami Herald bureau in Tallahassee, and Carl Hiaasen does indeed have a journalist son named Scott.

Here's the story at the Herald:
http://www.miamiherald.com/2010/09/18/1831652/annual-reports-warned-of-trouble.html

Posted by: DaveoftheCoonties | September 20, 2010 12:50 PM | Report abuse

Rick Scott is a crook, plain and simple. Florida voters get the leadership they deserve. Except in that one case where we all got stuck with their poor decision...

Posted by: yellojkt | September 20, 2010 12:58 PM | Report abuse

The throat protector was invented by Dodgers trainer Bill Buhler in 1976 after Dodger Steve Yeager got hit in the throat while he was waiting in the on-deck circle. Bill Russell's bat shattered, and Yeager had 9 pieces of wood in his throat. He recovered, though, and played 10 more years. It was mainly invented to protect Yeager's throat following the surgery (Yeager was a catcher).

Wearing a throat protector has been mandatory for catchers and umpires for years; I always wore one. But I don't know exactly when the "law" went into effect. There are two types, an essentially oval one, or a longer, thinner one, which was the one I preferred.

Yeager, BTW is a nephew of the pilot Chuck Yeager. He was only a fair batter but was an outstanding defensive player, and had what was considered to be the best arm in baseball in his heyday. He was in 4 World Series and was a co-MVP. And a nice guy. Great manager and coach, very good strategist and working with pitchers. When knuckleballer Charlie Hough pitched, Yeager used one of the oversize "peach basket" catcher's gloves Paul Richards invented for Gus Triandos.

Posted by: curmudgeon6 | September 20, 2010 12:59 PM | Report abuse

Atlantic City:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M3eu1gW-bQ8

Posted by: yellojkt | September 20, 2010 1:05 PM | Report abuse

Oh, and the troat protector exists mainly as a defense against foul balls, not broken bats. The catcher and the ump are about the only two guys on the field NOT likely to get hit by a broken bat splinter. Just about everyone else is in the infield is in the danger zone, though. When a bat breaks, it's already pretty much way past the catcher and the ump and header the other way. But catchers and umps get dinged about the head and shoulders all the time by foul balls. There's even a training exercise where all they do is throw baseballs at your face mask, and you stand there and learn not to flinch (if you can). Not a fun exercise. Your collarbones are the #1 thing to get hurt back there. Thighs #2. Fingers #3.

Posted by: curmudgeon6 | September 20, 2010 1:10 PM | Report abuse

Naughty bits are number what?

Posted by: ScienceTim | September 20, 2010 1:15 PM | Report abuse

I wondered how the most serious and (supposedly) accountable of businesses--hospitals--fell into the hands of pirates. The story hints that the industry was fat, happy, and prime pirate bait.

Of course I don't want Scott as governor--it's an office of trust, as in public trust. Pirates aren't appropriate, except in cases where something like a Franklin Roosevelt (Lend-Lease and the other stuff leading up to World War II) is needed.

Posted by: DaveoftheCoonties | September 20, 2010 1:15 PM | Report abuse

Maybe 8 or 9. Naughty bits really don't get hit much, contrary to the general notion. First, everybody back there wears a cup. And I'm talking about the the extra-large family economy size triple-reinforced case-hardened jewel vault type. Second, as an umpire, you are trained to place one hand in front of Ground Zero, so anything incoming will break your fingers and absorb a lot of the impact before it arrives in Naughtyville.

The one that gets you in the naughty bits doesn't come at you more or less in a straight line from the pitcher. The one that gets you is a foul ball that comes off the bat nearly straight down and then bounces straight back up and comes in under the cup or sideways to the bottom of the cup. Ain't nothing can protect you from that angle. It's coming straight up out of the ground and heading for Jesus, and if you're standing over it, you're just toast. But pretty rare. Most everything that comes at you comes straight back.

Posted by: curmudgeon6 | September 20, 2010 1:24 PM | Report abuse

Here's my yard this month.
http://picasaweb.google.com/106726458695543793930/YardSept2010?feat=directlink

The link seems to work. We're having dry weather, so things aren't quite as lush as they should be. The palms were kind of slow-growing earlier in the season, evidently some shock from the cold winter, or an overly hot summer. They're busy now, unfurling leaves regularly.

A few temperate-zone plants think it's fall. The tiny sasanqua camellias have buds.

Posted by: DaveoftheCoonties | September 20, 2010 1:28 PM | Report abuse

Mudge think of the fun you could have by using that little technical description as a metaphor in the stupid pundit contest. Oh, do enter the contest, please do!

Posted by: ScienceTim | September 20, 2010 1:38 PM | Report abuse

Scotty and bc,

Here's a review of the Rush show in Boston last week:

http://www.boston.com/ae/music/articles/2010/09/16/rush_takes_its_time_blowing_minds_at_td_garden/

The reviewer had a good time, too.

Posted by: -pj- | September 20, 2010 1:41 PM | Report abuse

Thanks Mudge. I looked it up, Munson got hit in the throat with a foul ball. I remembered it being his throat and it seemed to me that shortly thereafter the throat protector piece showed up, but the rest of the details had faded on the documents in the mental filing cabinet. (Some whole files have been misplaced, others have disintegrated to the point of looking like the Dead Sea Scrolls.)

dmd, loved your story. Makes me think DC isn't all that far off the beaten path.

Have a happy day.

Posted by: LostInThought | September 20, 2010 1:50 PM | Report abuse

Rush truly is the world's greatest pretentious Canadian prog-rock power trio that ever was. I say that with affection and respect.

Posted by: yellojkt | September 20, 2010 1:57 PM | Report abuse

Your garden is lush enough for me DotC. It looks great. Here, we've been on a string of 6C/44F mornings. This morning was the 5th or 6th in a row, that is refreshing weather when getting the dog out at potron minet. Frost is expected in some mountainous area tonight.

You can actually blame Canada for the shattering maple bats. Sam Bats of Ottawa supplies most if not all of them. http://www.sambat.com/

We had a good time at the football game yesterday even if it wasn't really a fall classic (the Als were up 26-0 at the half). The charm of the old McGill stadium and the smoke meat sandwich at Reuben's after the game made up for it.

Posted by: shrieking_denizen | September 20, 2010 2:06 PM | Report abuse

Good day, y'all.

Lawdy, another punditwannabefest is upon us. Actually, the first one was kinda fun to monitor. It seems to have generated a sufficient number of page views to warrant a repeat.

The contest boils down to a 'how many eyeballs in your social network can you bring to WaPo' type of affair. IIRC the winner garnered about 4,500 votes in the final round. Anyone here able to generate that kind of enthusiasm amongst his/her online connections? Youth also seems to matter: about half the finalists last year looked under 30.

That said, many here could write circles around most of them, IMHO.

Posted by: MsJS | September 20, 2010 2:08 PM | Report abuse

Good afternoon boodle! Have not read much on the Afghanistan matters yet, something I'll have to work into this evening. No matter what the details turn out to be after all is investigated it just goes to show that not everyone in the military is a hero. Saying they are diminishes the heroism of those who truly are, and leads to the letting down of the kind of guards that keep the worst from happening. If I were going to write an entry for the pundit contest it might be about that very thing-that and bears.

DotC-your plant husbandry is equal to your knowledge. Just fabulous!

Posted by: frostbitten1 | September 20, 2010 2:24 PM | Report abuse

Hi Gang,
I'm finally back from rehab, and I'm so happy to be home! Rehab wasn't bad at all; I had a great roommate, and the nurses and aides were sent from heaven. The physical therapists were especially gentle to and respectful of all the 'old folks,' which was lovely to see.

With me, they were ruthless! They tried to make me slow down, think before I acted, and they tried to make me not 'me.'

TBG came to visit and brought me many very trashy magazines, (which the staff loved), some fine food and coffee, and 'liquid refreshments' that were sorely needed. Thank you, TGB!

Now that I'm home I've been waited on hand and foot by two wonderful daughters who come and go as needed and fine family members and friends. My cousin is flying in to act as butler for me as long as he's needed (or as long as he can stand me!)

So, in general, I'm living the life of Riley, and somehow I'm lamenting the fact that I have only five weeks left of my confinement.

And wasn't I lucky to have picked such lovely weather to spend on my screened porch being entertained by so many people while admiring all the butterflies who are scurrying from flower to flower before it's time to head back.

Anyone who wants to visit will be very welcomed!

Thanks for all your fine words and good wishes. You know I appreciate them!

Posted by: rickoshea11 | September 20, 2010 2:32 PM | Report abuse

DotC, I loved the pictures. Do you consult? In areas that aren't totally tropic? There's too much grass in my backyard and I'd love to have some ideas about what to do instead.

I think I'll start by getting Mr. T to move the sasanquas somewhere they will get enough sun.

Posted by: slyness | September 20, 2010 2:32 PM | Report abuse

Aechmea fasciculata ought to be an available boodle handle, dontcha think? DotC, you have my admiration, topped with a wee touch of envy for your beautiful garden and your wonderful skills.

Posted by: ftb3 | September 20, 2010 2:36 PM | Report abuse

ROS, welcome back!

I assume you got the $1500 I sent you to hone your origami skills, per your request.

Posted by: MsJS | September 20, 2010 2:37 PM | Report abuse

rickoshea! Great that you're outta rehab! Looking forward to seeing you at the next (or maybe the one after that) BPH.

Posted by: ftb3 | September 20, 2010 2:39 PM | Report abuse

MAGGIE!!!! *happy Snoopy dance on my bad gams*

Posted by: curmudgeon6 | September 20, 2010 2:52 PM | Report abuse

ROS, so good to hear that you're doing well. If it weren't for the actual, um, pain, discomfort, and limited motion, your current lifestyle would sound ideal.

We're delighted to have you back.

Posted by: slyness | September 20, 2010 2:57 PM | Report abuse

Ro'S,

So glad to hear you escaped their clutches. Take it easy and cook some good Boodle recipes for yourself.

Posted by: yellojkt | September 20, 2010 3:08 PM | Report abuse

I've been thinking of taking up advanced Oriental paper-folding myself, MsJS. Please forward $1,500 in crisp, unfolded bills (your choice of denominations) to...

Posted by: curmudgeon6 | September 20, 2010 3:11 PM | Report abuse

Hi rickoshea, welcome back!

Posted by: MoftheMountain | September 20, 2010 3:16 PM | Report abuse

DotC, thank you for posting your pics, the garden looks beautiful.

Gorgeous fall day here spent the day outside cleaning up someones gardens and planting fall planters here. The neighbourhood I was in was lovely planted with bass (I think) along the street, the leaves were just beginning to turn shades of burgundy - fabulous trees. Most trees are still several weeks from the peak colour the ones that are turning now stand out against the green backdrop - fall is so great.

rickoshea, glad to hear you are recovering well - best to you.

LiT I think middle child and DC would be kindred spirits. Middle child again had a gaggle of friends over yesterday and they recreated the sister flying act so dmdspouse could take photos. They also held a garage sale and lemonade stand, middle child dress in killer blue high heeled sandals - she already has the strut down - I am in so much trouble! :-)

Posted by: dmd3 | September 20, 2010 3:23 PM | Report abuse

rickoshea,

Great to see you back! You have to practice saying to one of your minions "Somebody peel me a grape." Get better soon!

Posted by: -pj- | September 20, 2010 3:51 PM | Report abuse

Maggie!! *HUGSSSSSSSS* :-))

I have a feeling the next BPH might go "on the road," so to speak... :-)

Posted by: Scottynuke | September 20, 2010 3:58 PM | Report abuse

Today in History:

Billie Jean King beat Bobby Riggs in their battle of the sexes extravaganza in the Astrodome.

Also that night I heard a Little Feat record for the first time all the way through. In fact, I heard two - "Sailin' Shoes" and "Dixie Chicken." It was the first of many times listening to Little Feat records. I was enjoying my last days of relaxation before heading off to college for the first time and went over to a friend's house to shoot some pool, watch the tennis, and listen to music. It was a good evening.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1FekVR_SC5M

Posted by: -pj- | September 20, 2010 4:00 PM | Report abuse

Thanks for the tour, Dave. Makes me homesick, though, for FL.

My yard needs liming, and the plant beds need compost. I believe the pecan trees have scavenged all the calcium from the soil.

Posted by: Jumper1 | September 20, 2010 4:04 PM | Report abuse

This man sums up most of what I think. Long but very comprehensive:
http://sidewiseinsights.blogspot.com/2010/08/history-lesson-and-modest-proposal.html

Posted by: Jumper1 | September 20, 2010 4:19 PM | Report abuse

Rickoshea, welcome back, glad you're in good hands at home and on the mend.

Mudge, great rant this morning, I agree that you should enter the pundit thingy.

DoftheC's, love your pics, so lush and tropical (as it should be - duh).

Just home from work and trying to catch up with life in general as well as on the Boodle.

Posted by: badsneakers | September 20, 2010 4:28 PM | Report abuse

Holy cow, Jumper! That is one good article. I just PDFed it, so I can send it on to others.

Hey Sneaks!

Posted by: ftb3 | September 20, 2010 4:37 PM | Report abuse

Welcome back, ROS!

I do b'leve RNM is a sock puppet. No guesses on who it is but I have my reasons.

A combination of scheduled upgrades and unexpected critical system issues have pounded me into the ground. I'm also thinking of a firm but tactful way to point out to a director that waving her hands in the air and assuming more can be added and still will get done is 'ing delusional. As I take more on with Networks I am making sure what I hand off is in her group.

My oven is still broken. Am making rice krispy treats for a birthday tomorrow and welcome suggestions for additions.

Posted by: -dbG- | September 20, 2010 4:39 PM | Report abuse

Brickle chips?

Posted by: -dbG- | September 20, 2010 4:45 PM | Report abuse

That is excellent, Jumper. I think I'll send it to my brother...

Posted by: slyness | September 20, 2010 4:54 PM | Report abuse

dbg-either add some caramel ice cream topping to the melted marshmallow mixture or divide your regular recipe in half. By that I mean, melt and mix 1/2, then

After putting the first half in the pan-

melt 1 stick butter and a bag of caramels, add a can of Eagle Brand sweetened condensed milk-spread over rice krispie mix. Refrigerate 40 minutes then make second half of your regular recipe and put on top of caramel layer. Refrigerate until stiff enough to cut (or not, we always lose a few gooey warm pieces to taste testing).

Welcome back ROS. Good to see you so chipper.

Posted by: frostbitten1 | September 20, 2010 4:55 PM | Report abuse

Norwegian aurora pic: http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/ap100920.html

mmmmmm Rice Krispies treats. I like them with chocolate drizzle, or dipping the bottom of the squares in chocolate.

Just checking, but has anyone else ever seen pictures from magazines decoupaged on a wall as a wall treatment? That's what we found under the peeling wallpaper in the kitchen this weekend (even behind the radiator), and I'm curious if it was a trend I was unaware of.

These were all of food, and we believe they were mostly from Redbook issues. The only date was June 1973. It's quite a sight, and I'm grateful the Kilz oil primer stuck to it in our test area. There's hope that it will never see the light of day again.

Posted by: MoftheMountain | September 20, 2010 5:03 PM | Report abuse

Hey,
Leave me out of this.

And whatever happened to that nice Cholly Nickabocka fella? I bet he knows a lot about Atlantic City gangsters and dolls and things.

Posted by: PopSocket | September 20, 2010 5:04 PM | Report abuse

There was a character of the same name at a poker-playing site, and in a World of Warcraft thing, I guess it was. Kicked out of two "guilds?" I don't know how that crizap works, tho.

That's what Google showed me last week, anyway, dbG.

Posted by: Jumper1 | September 20, 2010 5:06 PM | Report abuse

Hi all.. .just returned from a fun long weekend trip to Ohio to the Paw Paw Festival. Haven't had time to backboodle, but I want to send along this message from Talitha...

She can't seem to post on her borrowed computer (her own is in ICU until later this week) and is having trouble receiving email as well. But she's OK... just needs a few extra boodle hugs if you've got 'em to spare.

Talitha... if you're reading this... I just got home and had a chance to send along your message. Sorry you caught me while I was out of town. If you need anything, please email again... I'm home now and happy to help where I can (boodle and otherwise).

OK.. time to see what I've missed...

Posted by: -TBG- | September 20, 2010 5:11 PM | Report abuse

Sounds great, frosti. Think I'll do that for a pan.

Can a canukistani give a yell about nanaimo bars? Good? Worth making?

Posted by: -dbG- | September 20, 2010 5:14 PM | Report abuse

MoftheMountain, I once (early 70's) pasted all our saved National Geographic maps on the walls of our entry hall. Looked good, too. However, I don't think it was part of a trend, but an *original* idea.

Posted by: nellie4 | September 20, 2010 5:16 PM | Report abuse

Hello,

Been so busy that I just backboodled on four days. Glad everybody is fine, and that ROS is mending.

RIP (again) you vampire Macondo.

And, CPBoy and some friends were at Rush with BC and Scotty in the very same environs. Ah, message music with the interestingness of sci fi, Shakespeare, etc. I'll take a heaping serving.

Off to bike and look at the many heron.

Posted by: CollegeQuaParkian1 | September 20, 2010 5:18 PM | Report abuse

I used to go to a bar in college called the Third Tunnel Pub. The decor had a certain divey surplus wire spool feel to it. The toilet rooms were completely lined with gender appropriate magazine centerfolds. We knew this because one night a particularly drunken barfly made a big deal of insisting that the construction working she was hitting on HAD to look better than the guys on the wall in the ladies room. She made everybody check out the 'wallpaper' in there.

On a far less prurient note, the toilet rooms at Woodberry Grille in Baltimore (highly recommended) are papered with recipes from old issues of Gourmet magazine. Different strokes for different folks.

Posted by: yellojkt | September 20, 2010 5:27 PM | Report abuse

*faxing a $1 bill 1,500x to Mudge*

1...2...3...4...

Posted by: MsJS | September 20, 2010 5:29 PM | Report abuse

SCC: Woodberry Kitchen

http://www.woodberrykitchen.com/

Posted by: yellojkt | September 20, 2010 5:31 PM | Report abuse

I do believe I can speak on Nanaimo bars, they are good, they are very, very and I cannot stress this enough very sweet. I do like them every once in awhile - did I mention they are very sweet?

Easy to make and popular. Even I have made them :-).

Welcome home TBG.

Posted by: dmd3 | September 20, 2010 5:37 PM | Report abuse

nellie, I kind of like the map idea. I bet that looked neat.

Different strokes indeed. This is way too busy for such a small area, and really my biggest beef is that it's loose in some sections and all covered with a lacquer that few things stick to. I just would never paste and lacquer it to the wall, so that I (or someone else) could conceivably change it someday. I get why that had to happen if you wanted to do that in the kitchen though.

I must confess, I have a slight obsession with Absolut vodka ads and covered a good bit of the walls in my bedroom with them in high school and college. Now I've framed them into 3x3 posters and have them hung on the wall. Easier to move, less poster putty residue. I guess I really have no room to complain.

Posted by: MoftheMountain | September 20, 2010 5:53 PM | Report abuse

I just looked at the recipe (one of them) for Nanaimo bars. Now my teeth hurt and I've gained about 500 million inches around my hips and I'm dyin' from the sweetness.

Good enough to eat, seems to me, but I think I'll, um, pass.

Welcome home, TBG.

Posted by: ftb3 | September 20, 2010 5:54 PM | Report abuse

I get that slightly sick cloyed feeling just *thinking* about Nanaimo Bars.

Welcome back ROS, lovely to know you are being suitably spoiled and served. Welcome home TBG.

They don't call those food photos pron for nothing, yello.

Posted by: Yoki | September 20, 2010 6:05 PM | Report abuse

We bought a house in the suburbs of Sacramento in 1965 that had be inhabited by a man and his two teenaged sons for a few years after the wife had left. Aside from pouring used crankcase oil in the backyard to control the weeds and never cleaning the oven or stove top, they had pasted the USGS topog maps on the dining room wall for the area from Sacramento to Lake Tahoe. Discovered a lot of backcountry lakes i didn't know existed. Wife covered them over with an embossed white and gold vinyl wall cover. We got a real good deal. My unused leave pay from the Coast Guard covered the down payment.

Posted by: bh72 | September 20, 2010 6:06 PM | Report abuse

...42....43....44....45....

Posted by: MsJS | September 20, 2010 6:17 PM | Report abuse

Mudge, for an old salt and brown shoe naval base employee. See the new article in the NYT looking for one of these that went down in Greenland during the great war.
File:J2F-5 1942 NAN11-61.jpg
One tough looking plane for a 1939 design.

Posted by: bh72 | September 20, 2010 6:17 PM | Report abuse

MoftheM, that sounds like a challenging job! The joys of previously owned homes. Can't tell you the hours (days, weeks, months) of sweat equity I've put into various houses over the years. I don't envy you but it is satisfying when finished to know you did it yourself and it looks good. The two houses I built were hard too in their own ways but making a house into your 'home' is worth whatever it takes.

OMG, I just checked out the recipe for Nanaimo bars, good grief does anyone actually eat these and live to talk about it?

Hey ftb!

Posted by: badsneakers | September 20, 2010 6:21 PM | Report abuse

Slyness, I'm kind of bipolar about plants. I grew up and lived in various places, so much of the cultivated plant material here is what I knew in middle school. About the only things that grow in common between here and Portland, Oregon (where I did a stint) would be rosemary, Trachycarpus palms from China (they don't seem long-lived here), Virginia creeper, and sasanqua camellias.

My yard's almost entirely post-2004, when the hurricanes knocked a neighbor's tree into the back yard and provided an excuse to remove masses of giant philodendron. The tall Carpentaria palm was about 4 feet tall (and $18) in 2006. Now it's maybe 15-20 feet tall. It's not a good plant for someone who wants a static landscape.

The yard suffers from being more of a plant collection than a planned landscape. I should get decisive and remove a lot of stuff, reintroduce grass into a few spots, and eradicate it from others.

A young live oak planted 2006 is big enough to house a small Tillandsia collection, with orchids to follow. Its expanding canopy will probably forcing the removal of a couple of palms and a small mango tree.

Posted by: DaveoftheCoonties | September 20, 2010 6:22 PM | Report abuse

MoftheM,
Magazine pictures seem classier than the classic American wallcovering--newspaper. I've never seen an in-use example of this sort of decor, but considering that my grandfather was born in a log cabin, I suspect the look runs in my family.

My kitchen's the latest wallpaper project. It was a pain removing paper I'd installed only seven or eight years earlier, not to mention removing remnants of the previous paper and prepping old and new wallboard.

Lacquer? Shellac? That reminds me of reading the NY Times as a kid and wandering into the interior decorating stuff. Things done to walls that would create puzzlement and suspicion in the ordinary world.

Posted by: DaveoftheCoonties | September 20, 2010 6:30 PM | Report abuse

A tad more on Boardwalk Empire, for anyone interested.

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/blog-post/2010/09/nucky_johnson_and_the_real-lif.html

Off to my water aerobics class.

Posted by: Curmudgeon5 | September 20, 2010 6:31 PM | Report abuse

dbg, I remember these from when I was a kid, still quite sweet but yummy.

http://busycooks.about.com/od/cookierecipes/r/nobakecookies.htm

Posted by: dmd3 | September 20, 2010 6:34 PM | Report abuse

'tis killing me that I don't have HBO; I'm a huge Buscemi fan.

Posted by: Yoki | September 20, 2010 6:36 PM | Report abuse

Hey all... Just uploaded three pictures to the Boodle Picasa collection from our trip.

A small guide to the Paw Paw Festival, a great museum we visited and the name of a school mascot that may beat the Belt Buckles for creativity.

http://picasaweb.google.com/boodlestuff/PawPawFestivalWithTheGFamily

Posted by: -TBG- | September 20, 2010 6:48 PM | Report abuse

The story for the hunt foe the Coast Guard plane in Greenland has disappeared from the NYT but here is a link.
http://coastguard.dodlive.mil/index.php/2010/09/duck-hunt-taking-stock/

Posted by: bh72 | September 20, 2010 6:49 PM | Report abuse

Yoki... check your email.

Posted by: -TBG- | September 20, 2010 6:57 PM | Report abuse

OK, found the NYT's link to the search for the Coast Guard plane in the Greenland ice..
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/09/21/science/21greenland.html?hpw

Posted by: bh72 | September 20, 2010 7:02 PM | Report abuse

Were I a pundit wannabe, I'd write about just how great economic theory is. For 20 years or so all we have done is exactly what economic theory says we should do to make our economy grade A superior.

Just think what a mess we'd be if we weren't doing everything the theorists say we should be doing, yadda yadda.

Hmm. Now that I look at it... we have shot our load. We can't realistically spend any more, or cut taxes any more. We can't cut interest rates any more. We are done.

And yet things aren't peachy.

Stupid theories.

Posted by: baldinho | September 20, 2010 7:25 PM | Report abuse

I totally understand the urge to buy new plants and change the landscape, DotC. My yard is a testament to my mother, whose green thumb was as green as they get. I was out pulling weeds after supper, and the scent of the Russian tea olive blooms was wonderful. So subtle, so sweet. That was a gift from her.

Next year, I need to pay close attention to the roses (old fashioned and fairy) that she gave me, and make them look good. I think I'll move one of the fairy roses around front to replace a gumpo azalea in a spot that was too hot for it.

Lantana - I gotta plant more of that in the hot spots...and fewer begonias...

I think I'll take out the spearmint, maybe let some grow in the cracked washpot. I'm tired of fighting it. That, too, came from my mom's.

Posted by: slyness | September 20, 2010 7:29 PM | Report abuse

CquaP!!! *HUGSSSSSS* Sorry we missed CPBoy, but I know he enjoyed it -- I sure did!!! :-))))

Posted by: Scottynuke | September 20, 2010 7:36 PM | Report abuse

bh, interesting article, worthy undertaking. I couldn't help but smile though when I saw one of the contractor guy's name....Weegee Smith. While we don't have last names like Smith, we spell that first name Luigi.

Posted by: LostInThought | September 20, 2010 7:42 PM | Report abuse

Evening, all.

Ms. O'Shea, I'm so glad to see you back and on the mend.

LiT, thanks for the laugh from this AM. Sometimes I need to tell myself what I'm seeing over my bathroom sink is really a Fun House mirror.

TBG, glad to have you back, too. Glad you (collectively) enjoyed the trip.

Now, to see how the Saints go Marching in to San Fransisco. [That was not an intentional straight line.]

bc

Posted by: -bc- | September 20, 2010 7:43 PM | Report abuse

Hey, y'all!

A mere drive-by in the chaos of life. Computer crashed on Thursday amid the other frivolities ..... it's healed now.

Am backboodling as fast as my eyes can read. Here's the theme song for today.
(Will try to post a happier tune later.)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rW9-FOLG-iA

Posted by: talitha1 | September 20, 2010 7:44 PM | Report abuse

Thanks everyone; it's great to be back.

Ms. JS, Instead of learning origami with your $1500, I invested it in some sure things that a friend of a friend suggested. I'll give you a cut of the first year's interest, if you want... Thanks for that.

I now know that I'm surrounded by many relatives and dear friends, and I'm included you all among them.

Posted by: rickoshea11 | September 20, 2010 7:51 PM | Report abuse

"For 20 years or so all we have done is exactly what economic theory says we should do to make our economy grade A superior."

Hmm.... I think that assertion is debatable.

Posted by: Bob-S | September 20, 2010 7:51 PM | Report abuse

Talitha! Good to see you here.

(Check your email--I just sent you one.)

Posted by: -TBG- | September 20, 2010 7:55 PM | Report abuse

This may anger purists but I love mint Nanaimo bars at Christmas. Need some DD coffee to go with 'em dbG.

TBG-are you going to attend the Restoring Sanity rally? Will have a leadership position for you in our crack sign correction squad.

CqP-long time no see. The garden mum I bought as an experiment in creating a micro-climate one zone warmer than the rest of the grounds Chez Frostbitten is all yellow spidery flowers. What garden delights do you have now that the dog days are behind us?

I shall remain mum about past atrocities of decoupage and faux antiquing done in the name of home interior fashion. Same goes for macrame and yards and yards of ruffled country curtains. Double for painted awning stripes and sweet wallpaper borders.

Posted by: frostbitten1 | September 20, 2010 7:57 PM | Report abuse

Talitha, if you can still read and take links, this is for you, only because it strikes me as absolutely darling and whimsical and child-like. And I love it. You too.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4X3r1SJjBgs

Posted by: Yoki | September 20, 2010 8:05 PM | Report abuse

Bob -S-, never let a good rant get muddied by reality.

Posted by: baldinho | September 20, 2010 8:07 PM | Report abuse

"Never let a good rant get muddied by reality."

A great boodle motto.

frosti... I plan to be at the Sanity Rally. Are you attending? I'll have my Big Red Marker at the ready, don't worry.

(I've got room at the G house for any out-of-town boodlers considering attending. Well... some boodlers, at least.)

Posted by: -TBG- | September 20, 2010 8:17 PM | Report abuse

Talitha -- my email message to you was caught in the ether. We can try again.

Scotty -- he DID like the concert, 'natch. Next time, all of us?

RoS -- love that the dots are with you in stages or overlapping. Royalty becomes you. Be sure to use the royal "we"; I aspire to this and live.through.you. Sample:

We are so charming amused by your footwear, darling daughter. OR

We shall nap just now. OR

We anticipate with relish the afternoon comestibles, made more savory with the perfect Vouvay.

Frosti -- will make garden report shortly....but mostly that the number of white/grey immature herons all along the Anacostia -- I counted 12....three different types: great blue, crowned night heron, green heron.....sigh, nature is arrayed in feathers and leaves and are we not humbled and equally grateful?

Posted by: CollegeQuaParkian1 | September 20, 2010 8:17 PM | Report abuse

baldinho - Fair point. :-)

Posted by: Bob-S | September 20, 2010 8:22 PM | Report abuse

Did anyone ever tell you folks that there are no better people on earth than boodlers? I'm here to shout it!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=17u9mxdvQEo&feature=related

Posted by: talitha1 | September 20, 2010 8:28 PM | Report abuse

Speaking of rants, this one by Paul Krugman is a keeper.

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/09/20/opinion/20krugman.html

Posted by: yellojkt | September 20, 2010 8:49 PM | Report abuse

The Geekdottir is planning to attend the rally, TBG. She is making hotel reservations, but I hope she can meet up with the boodlers for the event. I won't worry about her, if she's with you all. Can we facilitate a meeting?

Posted by: slyness | September 20, 2010 8:49 PM | Report abuse

talitha - I kinda misread your comment as indicating that we are no better than the boodlers on earth. Which brought to mind the inimitable (or at least very difficult to imitate) Fred Willard in the fine film 'Roxanne":

Mayor Deebs: "I would rather be with the people of this town than with the finest people in the world."

Posted by: Bob-S | September 20, 2010 8:57 PM | Report abuse

Fred Willard is good, but Lloyd Bridges in "Cousins" is my all-time favorite:

Vince: I'd rather have a case of the clap than a case of this wine.

Posted by: baldinho | September 20, 2010 9:29 PM | Report abuse

TBG-If I can clear the mayoral calendar I'm going to be in Newport News and will make a trip up for the rally. May have to take you up on your fine offer.

Posted by: frostbitten1 | September 20, 2010 9:44 PM | Report abuse

I think my current favorite solution to all the silly jiggering of the tax code by Congress is to simply have them stop "patching" the AMT.

Posted by: baldinho | September 20, 2010 9:46 PM | Report abuse

Excuse me. This is a Cool Moon Emergency. Jupiter is loitering near the moon right now, and it is pretty gosh darn magnificent.

Thank you. That is all.

Posted by: RD_Padouk | September 20, 2010 9:48 PM | Report abuse

BobS, put your freak specks back on! *L*
'cause I'd never dis my darlin' boodlers.

Posted by: talitha1 | September 20, 2010 9:51 PM | Report abuse

BobS, put your freak specks back on! *L*
'cause I'd never dis my darlin' boodlers.

Posted by: talitha1 | September 20, 2010 9:52 PM | Report abuse

Oooooops.

Posted by: talitha1 | September 20, 2010 9:54 PM | Report abuse

Went and looked, Padouk, but couldn't see anything unusual. Moon very bright, though. Thought maybe there was a tiny speck between 1 o'clock and 2 o'clock, but not sure. Was that it?

Posted by: Curmudgeon5 | September 20, 2010 9:59 PM | Report abuse

dmd lost me after 2 very sweets. I made frosti's caramel layer rice krispie treats and some coco krispie treats. All way too sweet themselves, but I know my officemate likes them.

Last night as we were almost home from our walk, I saw a skunk in the middle of my neighbor's chain-link-fenced front yard. I hope he'd left the gate open. I'm beginning to see differences between all those I've seen in the past few weeks, size, markings, attitude. This one moved off in one direction as we moved off in the other.

I read that HFCS is being rebranded as "corn sugar."

Night, All. Thanks for the suggestions.

Posted by: -dbG- | September 20, 2010 10:00 PM | Report abuse

I should have been clearer, Mudge. It's to the left a bit, but hard to miss.

http://earthsky.org/astronomy-essentials/bright-star-might-be-planet-jupiter-nearly-closest-since-1963

Posted by: RD_Padouk | September 20, 2010 10:06 PM | Report abuse

As Gawker says:

Yeah, because when we think of health food, we think "sugar."

Posted by: yellojkt | September 20, 2010 10:09 PM | Report abuse

I just checked it out RD, (very bright 'star' about 8:45 from the moon, Mudge). Very nice.

I think we're going to go the the rally. I was planning to find a hotel not too far from one of our Boodlers (looking for volunteers - whoever lives close to a decent but affordable hotel) and maybe hitching a ride or getting the lowdown on the public transportation from that point. Does this make sense? We were thinking of arriving on Friday early enough to go to the Museum of Natural History which was closed when we were there a few years ago.

Posted by: badsneakers | September 20, 2010 10:10 PM | Report abuse

Brown sugar, we're on a health kick.
Roseanne

Posted by: frostbitten1 | September 20, 2010 10:10 PM | Report abuse

I would like to announce that I have a major announcement to make.

Posted by: frostbitten1 | September 20, 2010 10:15 PM | Report abuse

My very amateur attempt at taking a picture of the moon and jupiter.

http://picasaweb.google.ca/dmd2921/Moon#5519184986854934418

Posted by: dmd3 | September 20, 2010 10:18 PM | Report abuse

Frosti, I'm all ears .....

Posted by: talitha1 | September 20, 2010 10:21 PM | Report abuse

The announcement-

I have perfected the gingersnap cookie recipe!

Posted by: frostbitten1 | September 20, 2010 10:27 PM | Report abuse

I have no problem with the "corn sugar" label. It's perfectly accurate. "High fructose corn syrup" was a designation designed by the food industry primarily to obfuscate how much damned sugar was being added to products.

From the science I've read, much ado is made from little evidence about the differences between various forms of sugar in the vast majority of the population's metabolisms. Cutting down on the amount of sugars & fats ingested (from any sources) likely does much more good for public health than spending too much energy subdividing them into categories of relative malevolence.

Posted by: Bob-S | September 20, 2010 10:29 PM | Report abuse

I have no problem with the "corn sugar" label. It's perfectly accurate. "High fructose corn syrup" was a designation designed by the food industry primarily to obfuscate how much darned sugar was being added to products.

From the science I've read, much ado is made from little evidence about the differences between various forms of sugar in the vast majority of the population's metabolisms. Cutting down on the amount of sugars & fats ingested (from any sources) likely does much more good for public health than spending too much energy subdividing them into categories of relative malevolence.

Posted by: Bob-S | September 20, 2010 10:30 PM | Report abuse

Jupiter is super visible up here. The night sky is crystal clear here.

Posted by: baldinho | September 20, 2010 10:31 PM | Report abuse

I also have no problem with my comments being displayed twice (or thrice, or even more) but it certainly wasn't my intention.

Posted by: Bob-S | September 20, 2010 10:32 PM | Report abuse

Precisely Bob-S, it's the hidden sugars in foods that don't even need them that are killers.

Which leads to this reminder-The Cheap Eats, Feed Yourself Well for $15 a Week Challenge begins Sunday, Oct. 3. Entrants must announce their intent to compete before breakfast on Oct. 3.

Posted by: frostbitten1 | September 20, 2010 10:32 PM | Report abuse

slyness,
Spearmint died on me. Probably shade.

My begonias (especially one named "Boomer" thrived last year but are declining this year. No obvious reason.

Heliconia collinsiana, a popular plant in big hothouses, provided huge banana-like silver-bottomed leaves for several years, but got crowded out by palms. Survivors were evacuated to a fine new home.

Most palms established easily, but a few failed due to what seemed to be a wave of fungal infections. All are happy now.

Two big old backyard Valencia orange trees declined over a number of years (a serious root-girdling beetle larva was obviously largely to blame). Gone now. Two avocados may follow--they're vulnerable to a very nasty new disease that may or may not be controllable.

A hurricane could do all sorts of damage. I need to agitate to get the city's tree code changed to allow removal of laurel oaks, which get too big and die too young, but not before showering the surroundings with dead branches. Live oaks are far better. Even crape myrtles (except they don't support bird life by feeding lots of insects).

Posted by: DaveoftheCoonties | September 20, 2010 10:34 PM | Report abuse

Hey mudge, you have the Niners tonight? Me neither. 14-9 right now.

Posted by: baldinho | September 20, 2010 10:35 PM | Report abuse

Aaah - Do you see what happened with my comment? I got a message indicating a "Moveable Type" error, so I made a slight change and resubmitted. But both versions actually made it through.

Posted by: Bob-S | September 20, 2010 10:36 PM | Report abuse

Snap!

Posted by: talitha1 | September 20, 2010 10:45 PM | Report abuse

I got one of those tonight, too, Bob ..... resulting in my double post. What is happening out there in cyberland, duz anyone know?

Posted by: talitha1 | September 20, 2010 10:48 PM | Report abuse

Hope y'all are watching Jon Stewart .....

".... if you need a ride ....?" LMFBO~!!

Posted by: talitha1 | September 20, 2010 11:03 PM | Report abuse

Frosti, you are perfection itself.

Posted by: Yoki | September 20, 2010 11:04 PM | Report abuse

A few years back, I was at a brewpub (Cap City, Shirlington) and got to chatting with a woman who was enthusiastic about healthy food, and was particularly attuned to the dangers of various refined sugars & grain flours. At some point I opined: "Well, even if you get all of your sugar by sucking it directly from the teats of organically-fed honeybees, the most important thing is that you don't eat too much of it."

[It probably won't surprise you to discover that our conversation didn't last too much longer. We were not destined to view life similarly. Fortunately, she was meeting other folks and left shortly thereafter. But that's not the story.]

About thirty minutes after she left and the incident had entirely left my mind, a group of three sat down next to me at the bar. The woman who sat down closest to me (she'd brought another couple in tow) called over the bartender, and said that she was buying me a drink because I'd tossed out the funniest line she'd heard in a while. Turns out, she'd just walked in and was about to order a drink at the bar, and happened to be standing right behind me when I dropped that particular line. She had repositioned herself to overhear and watch the ensuing comedy.

Introductions were made, and much fun was had. The bartender was so amused by us that she bought us a couple of rounds of drinks. I still keep in sporadic touch with them. Alas, the healthy-food advocate is apparently lost to me forever.

The moral of the story is: Sugar is mostly just sugar.

Posted by: Bob-S | September 20, 2010 11:43 PM | Report abuse

Not that it changes the dramatic arc of the narrative, but I actually said, "... get all of your sugar by suckling directly at the teats..."

That "suckling directly" phrase played a large part in the rest of the evening's hilarity. "Teats" also came up occasionally, if I recall correctly.

Posted by: Bob-S | September 21, 2010 12:03 AM | Report abuse

teats is sort of Middle-English, but I still cannot account for you, dear Bob-S.

Posted by: Yoki | September 21, 2010 12:07 AM | Report abuse

There's nothing to me. What you see is what you get. I'm not a character full of deep hidden meanings like RichNomore.

Posted by: Bob-S | September 21, 2010 12:14 AM | Report abuse

Thank Gawd!

Posted by: Yoki | September 21, 2010 12:25 AM | Report abuse

frosti - I'll be expecting further details, or copious samples. I do like ginger snaps.

Posted by: Bob-S | September 21, 2010 12:27 AM | Report abuse

Wow. I'll back off now.

Posted by: Yoki | September 21, 2010 12:44 AM | Report abuse

Back off of...?

Posted by: Bob-S | September 21, 2010 12:46 AM | Report abuse

You know, Bob, the feeling. I will leave you all be.

Posted by: Yoki | September 21, 2010 12:49 AM | Report abuse

I just want to know how to make a decent ginger snap cookie. But it's about bedtime anyway, so I reckon I'll back off too! 'Night, y'all!

Posted by: Bob-S | September 21, 2010 12:57 AM | Report abuse

I am seriously embarrassed. Well done, Boodle.

Posted by: Yoki | September 21, 2010 1:10 AM | Report abuse

These words ought to be engraved somewhere.

Posted by: RD_Padouk | September 18, 2010 4:05 PM

Yes, RD, with a chisel onto the lower backside of BP execs. China executes executives for less.

Posted by: russianthistle | September 21, 2010 3:52 AM | Report abuse

http://www.iowagop.org/site/c.ruIWKbMYIvF/b.5647735/k.A17D/RPI_Platform.htm

platform, Iowa

Posted by: Jumper1 | September 21, 2010 5:18 AM | Report abuse

That is a very interesting document, and some parts give me the creeps. I wonder at whom the Cicero quote is directed?

Posted by: gmbka | September 21, 2010 6:34 AM | Report abuse

'Morning, Boodle.

(Waiting for the clothes dryer to finish.)

Jumper, we need the Iowa GOP platform because...????

The early voting is in:

Lone Star: Thumbs down (2 votes)
Hawaii FGive-O: Thumbs up (two votes).

Caught the last 15 minutes of house (the nude scene-- jeez, seeing Cutty in bed with House is ... traumatic). And 13 has disappeared again (drat!).

17 question heds above the WaPo fold (the gallery boxes), only 1 below it. Are question heds spiraling out of control? Your take? Me, I read newspapers to get answers, not be interrogated.

Posted by: Curmudgeon5 | September 21, 2010 6:41 AM | Report abuse

Mudge,

Is that easier to do? The question heds?

I think that those are the 2010 version of "there are some that say ..."

Posted by: russianthistle | September 21, 2010 6:51 AM | Report abuse

Listening to Hungarian Rhapsody No. 3 in D by Liszt. I thought that I heard portions of the music from the movie "The Alamo." mudge?

It was my favorite serious movie when I was a little kid. I thought it was really worth the 50 cents back in the day at The Varsity Theater in Honolulu. We all knew that they were going to die. It was hard to watch.

Posted by: russianthistle | September 21, 2010 6:56 AM | Report abuse

House and Cutty were nekkid in Hawaii with thumbs up their... Wha???

*obviously-needing-more-caffeine Grover waves* :-)

Posted by: Scottynuke | September 21, 2010 7:29 AM | Report abuse

G'morning, all. Hi Cassandra! I hope you're up for a lovely, pain-free day!

Bob, sometimes you just crack me up! Sugar, indeed! The reason I'm not diabetic (it runs in the family) is that I try to stay away from it and mostly succeed. However, I'm going to make an exception for Frosti's gingersnaps.

Since it's rather early for cookies, I'll put the warm ham biscuits on the ready room table. The coffee and hot water for tea are already there. Enjoy, folks!

Posted by: slyness | September 21, 2010 7:29 AM | Report abuse

God loves us so much more than we can imagine through Him that died for all, Jesus Christ.

Good morning, friends. I didn't wait to listen to the lady that said she was tired of defending President Obama. Yes, I stuck my head in the sand. I didn't want to hear her answer. She will be a poster for the Republicans, and this early in the morning, I just didn't need something else to add to my repetoire of pills to swallow.

There's a bigger picture here, and evidently she fails to see it or decided to do as I'm doing about her.

I didn't hear anyone say doing the Bush administration, I'm tired of defending you President Bush. And as to people being tired, they probably are. But there was joy getting to this place called tired. Had to be, or why did the former administration get elected twice?

And as you can see from my comment, I just don't get it. I will never understand why people thought that they could prosecute two wars and cut taxes at home. I just don't get that, and I know I'm slow on just about everything, but I don't see that. Perhaps someone here can enlighten me?

Have a lovely day, folks, and love to all.

Slyness, this heat is almost unbearable, and the fire hazard keeps going up. I do hope people that smoke are careful with those cigarettes! 90's everyday!

Posted by: cmyth4u | September 21, 2010 7:44 AM | Report abuse

Bullwinkle the Moose/DC Music over 20 years ago.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=KyB1dUa-hww

Posted by: russianthistle | September 21, 2010 8:55 AM | Report abuse

Good morning Boodlies!
Nice spring-like weather here. People, me included, recovering from four days of Bicentenial celebrations. 1810 was not a good year for Spain as Argentina, Mexico and Chile declared their independence.

Brag

Posted by: Braguine | September 21, 2010 9:21 AM | Report abuse

Good morning! *sneaking past my suddenly-unreliable browser (curse Windows7)to visit the Boodle,hope it works*

Welcome back, MaggieROS. Also TBG and other absent or technology-challenged Boodlers. I hope I can make it here twice today.

Hearty congratulations to frostbitten on your achievement. I'll take two cookies please, and the recipe.

dmd, I read that you were in a neighborhood where the streets were planted with bass and was impressed that the municipal authorities think so much of their fishermen. I was also a little alarmed. If the fish are big enough to plant, how large must the cats be?

Posted by: Ivansmom | September 21, 2010 9:23 AM | Report abuse

Good morning! *sneaking past my suddenly-unreliable browser (curse Windows7)to visit the Boodle,hope it works*

Welcome back, MaggieROS. Also TBG and other absent or technology-challenged Boodlers. I hope I can make it here twice today.

Hearty congratulations to frostbitten on your achievement. I'll take two cookies please, and the recipe.

dmd, I read that you were in a neighborhood where the streets were planted with bass and was impressed that the municipal authorities think so much of their fishermen. I was also a little alarmed. If the fish are big enough to plant for shade, how large must the cats be?

Posted by: Ivansmom | September 21, 2010 9:23 AM | Report abuse

Here's a clip I heartily recommend, althouigh it is a substantial amount of work. http://www.charlierose.com/view/interview/11206#frame_top

It is Charlie Rose's interview with NYT columnist David Brooks. It is 51 and 1/2 minutes, so a major investment of time and effort, but I think highly worth it. I don't always agree with Brooks's conclusions, but his analysis of what the problems *really* are (as opposed to falsely appear to be) is right on. And even when I don't agree with him, he's still worth listening to. And of course Rose asks interesting, penetrating questions. In other words, this is a deeply intelligent, deeply informed discussion of serious stuff.

If ya like that sorta thing.

Posted by: curmudgeon6 | September 21, 2010 9:42 AM | Report abuse

Good morning, y'all.

Warm muffins, coffee and OJ on the table. Also strawberry lemonade cuz it's currently MrJS' fave beverage.

Frosti, congrats on achieving perfection.

Hope those with techie issues have been able to sort them out.

Hot and muggy in TWC today. Rain later.

ROS, lemme know how your investments work out.

Posted by: MsJS | September 21, 2010 9:43 AM | Report abuse

We got sooner boodle jumpers on the new kit. Yours truly included.

Posted by: yellojkt | September 21, 2010 9:56 AM | Report abuse

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