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Vampire Weekend and how Obama can get his groove back

The other night I drove a couple of critters to the Vampire Weekend concert (lest this damage my nonhipster street cred, let me stipulate that I merely dropped them off) and along the way got to thinking about the Obama problem. You know the Obama problem: No one likes him anymore. Democrats going down in flames. Republicans poised to make most unlikely comback since Nixon in '68.

Politics is a bit like music. You can't argue with taste. And taste can be fickle.

The kids love Vampire Weekend, which is, in fact, a fun band, quirky, original. Vampire Weekend is officially labeled indie rock, but it's pretty much of a pop band, with sing-along-in-the-car songs. Their big hit "A-Punk" reminds me of Franz Ferdinand crossed with The English Beat. But my hunch is that, in 10 years, they're not going to be filling large venues like the Merriweather Post Pavillion.

This is not to wish failure upon them. We must merely acknowledge that there are Newtonian laws to pop stardom. What goes up must come down (exceptions to be noted momentarily). That initial acceleration, that launch to the stratosphere, is propelled by the fans as much as by the band itself. Because the fans want to be excited, they want to have a favorite new band, they want to find a place to park their energy. You ever seen a couple of 15-year-old girls heading to a pop concert? They don't exactly nap along the way.

At some point, the fans will move on, and Vampire Weekend will settle down to a new equilibrium. Like all bands, they must eventually have their VH1 Behind the Music breakdown, breakup, some bouts of extremely depraved personal behavior, followed by reconciliation and a reunion tour playing county fairs. This is their destiny. It's like physics, my friends.

Which brings up the Obama problem.

He was famously a political rock star. That metaphor may have been overused, but it was exactly on point. There was always an irrational exhuberance among those folks who packed his rallies. Remember, he routinely could draw 25,000 people to an event in 2007 and 2008. Or 50,000. Or 75,000. He was a phenomenon. And he had them at "Hello."

Novelty, by definition, doesn't last. Governing is hard. Governing in a highly partisan atmosphere in the middle of a terrible recession and two wars is not something you want to do if popularity-building is your goal.

But wait: Some rock stars defy the physics of popularity. They do it by evolving and growing and trying new things and letting their natural talents take them to new places. They take chances. They risk alienating their fans. They believe in themselves. I guarantee you they don't follow the polls or consult with focus groups.

What I'm saying is that Obama needs to replace Rahm Emanuel with, like, Bruce Springsteen. (Madonna gets the Pentagon.)

By Joel Achenbach  |  September 13, 2010; 8:41 AM ET
 
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Mr. A, Madonna?

Posted by: MsJS | September 13, 2010 9:41 AM | Report abuse

Can I nominate Lee, Lifeson & Peart for the Energy Dept?

Posted by: Scottynuke | September 13, 2010 9:43 AM | Report abuse

Bruce is a good example. He was on the cover of Time with Born to Run and then all but disappeared to those of us who listened to top 40 radio (still nearly everyone in those days). You don't attain longevity and quality by staying perpetually popular.

Posted by: frostbitten1 | September 13, 2010 9:46 AM | Report abuse

I am amused by the now-common theme that Barack Obama has "discovered" that governing is hard work, harder than campaigning. I rather think that he knew that. The disillusioned masses, on the other hand, who expected a lefty version of George Bush -- "my way or the highway" tactics, unilateral actions by the "unitary executive", signing statements, and the whole nine yards -- they don't seem to grasp that part of what Obama was running to accomplish was/is the reinstitution of orderly government with checks and balances, due process, and so forth. It's less viscerally satisfying than punishing the lousy punks who ran the country into the ground, but it's more likely to restore a sustainable model for the political process of running a democracy. In the process, he also seems to have accomplished a substantial menu of legislative accomplishments, possibly aided by his unwillingness to taunt the political opposition after each victory and thus steel their spine to oppose the next effort.

Posted by: ScienceTim | September 13, 2010 10:12 AM | Report abuse

Reminds me of when the Beatles released Sgt. Pepper's L.H.C.B. in early 1967. The few of us who loved the evolving sounds and images were (by all the teenies who'd swooned before) ridiculed in my school circle. I'm still referred to as that "hippie-chick who wore a poncho" when I visit my hometown.

Or look what happened when Dylan plugged in.

Posted by: talitha1 | September 13, 2010 10:14 AM | Report abuse

Je dois certainement être un editaur, parce que je ne peux pas imaginer n'importe qui plus revêche que moi.

Juste disan'.

Oh, FYI, I still like Obama. Between me, his wife, his daughters and his mom, that makes five of us. Not enough to fill a booth at Ruby Tuesday's, I admit. But still.

A couple hundred years ago I was having a flagon of brew at a pub in the Carpathians with a fellow named Von Helsing, who invited me to a Vampire Weekend, but I declined (I was on deadline). "Cornie," I sez, "thanks loads for the invite, very kind, I'm sure, and I'd love to go, but the rag" [I was working for the Birmingham, U.K., Bugle-Picayune at the time as chiefSlacic Correspondent, a post I acquired due to my well known facility with foreign languages] "has cabled me for a flash update report, 1,500 words, on the rising trend of torchlight vigilantism in little-known principalities with unpronouncable names, and I'm afraid I can't go. By the way, what are all the stakes for?"

He gave me a rain check and a silver bullet. I have no idea why. Hocked the ammo for six bob in a pawn shop on Charing Cross Row when I got back.

Posted by: curmudgeon6 | September 13, 2010 10:16 AM | Report abuse

I'm also struck by the chorus of voices declaring either that Obama is not doing what must politically be done, or congratulating him for at long last doing what they think must be done (I'm lookin' at you, E. J. Dionne!). With all due respect, Obama went through his whole election campaign by ignoring a similar barrage of helpful advice from self-appointed Political Sages. At this point, you might think that some of these guys would sit back and accept that they are being taken to school, and maybe have the good sense to try to analyze why Obama is successful with what he's doing, rather than making fools of themselves repeatedly.

Or, better yet: when the man makes a policy proposal or pronouncement or makes a statement about the state of the world and the nature of politics, try analyzing it for accuracy (in the case of factual statements) or effectiveness (in the case of policy), regardless of partisan preference. Unheard-of. Coverage of politics in general, and Obama in particular, continues to be a lot of "Will this resonate with the voters? Only time will tell" -- a pretense of sober wisdom while taking no responsibility for actual judgment. How about "is this a good policy? That depends on whether X, Y, or Z are true." I would welcome political coverage that had more respect for the stubborn nature of facts and actual reality, rather than excessive elevation of the perceptual reality of partisanship. A policy concept may be popular, but that has no direct bearing on whether it is a good idea. Popular bad ideas are a very dangerous thing.

Posted by: ScienceTim | September 13, 2010 10:26 AM | Report abuse

Front Page Alert...

Posted by: Scottynuke | September 13, 2010 10:30 AM | Report abuse

*Applauding vigorously for ScienceTim*

I like Obama too. That booth may get a little crowded.

Posted by: Ivansmom | September 13, 2010 10:33 AM | Report abuse


The President is trying mightily to reinvent himself as the laser guided economic warrior just before the election. Alas, as Joel points out, timing is everything.

Posted by: edbyronadams | September 13, 2010 10:34 AM | Report abuse

Tim, I am so disgusted with the political coverage as well as all the usual punditry (and I'm talking about from the center and the left, not just the zombies and crazoids on the right) that I can't see straight. I've given up completely on Cilizza, and almost on Milbank, and I think Dan Balz ought to be fired, along with however is running the Political desk, if they even have one any more. I blame Marcus Broccoli for this tremendous slide. The quality of reportage is so bad you'd think Gannett owned the Post (I can think of no slur worse, though I admit it is "inside baseball").

Posted by: curmudgeon6 | September 13, 2010 10:36 AM | Report abuse

Amen, SciTim, AMEN! I suppose that's why I've stopped reading op-eds these days. There's no substance there.

*I* still like Obama, Mudge. That makes six of us, I guess. And I'm pleased with what he's accomplished, given the state of affairs that he inherited and that have arisen during his time in office.

Posted by: slyness | September 13, 2010 10:38 AM | Report abuse

Stick it, ed. Just stick it.

Posted by: curmudgeon6 | September 13, 2010 10:39 AM | Report abuse

I was discussing Oklahoma Democratic politics with a friend last night, and firmly introduced her to my state politics mantra: shut up and vote. As I've mentioned, to have a hope of winning here Democratic candidates must be fairly conservative. The handsfuls of liberals and progressives constantly complain about how they are shut out of the party, their resolutions aren't heard, etc. All true, and the party should continue trying to fix those things. However, once the party candidates are determined, shut up and vote. You may not like their policy choices, but you know you'll like the opposition candidates a lot less. I absolutely fail to understand the impulse to sit on one's hands, take one's ball and go home, whatever phrase you prefer.

The state Democratic party couldn't even recruit and field candidates for many legislative seats this year. This is one reason the Republicans finally took control of the legislature, for the first time since statehood. If the party would unify and agree just to pick some candidates and support them, they'd keep the Governor's office at least. How to do this? Decide, shut up and vote.

Posted by: Ivansmom | September 13, 2010 10:40 AM | Report abuse

SciTim - your words resonate with my thoughts. I never expected the partisanship to disappear or for the press to report more on the polls or the topic du jour, yet I certainly hoped for a return to serious policy discussion and less rancor among the "believers".

I still like Obama, too. That's because I never saw him as a political rockstar in the first place but as a serious man who took the *whole* nation's problems into consideration when looking for solutions.
I think he still does.

Posted by: talitha1 | September 13, 2010 10:42 AM | Report abuse

scc: press to report "less" on . . . (she meant)

Posted by: talitha1 | September 13, 2010 10:45 AM | Report abuse

As far as music goes, excitement builds in this neck of the woods for the king of free shows.

http://strictlybluegrass.com/

Posted by: edbyronadams | September 13, 2010 10:53 AM | Report abuse

On the other hand, I'm laughing. Ya gotta admit, Rand Paul is a nut case... but at least he's an *honest* nut case:

"Rand Paul (R) says GOP shares blame for deficits" (bwahahahahahaha)

"By BRUCE SCHREINER
The Associated Press
Sunday, September 12, 2010; 9:33 PM

BOWLING GREEN, Ky. -- Kentucky Senate hopeful Rand Paul chided fellow Republicans on Sunday evening for contributing to the massive federal budget deficit, candidly telling tea party supporters in his hometown that GOP lawmakers took "the easy way out" by failing to cut spending in the past.

"Paul said Democrats share greater blame for rising red ink [yeah, yeah, yeah, we failed to stop you from invading Iraq. I'm well aware of it.], but the tea party favorite said Republicans squandered past congressional majorities by presiding amid times of growing federal deficits.

"We as Republicans have taken the easy way out a lot of times," said Paul, a first-time candidate who portrays himself as a political outsider. "We vote to cut taxes but we don't ever vote to cut any spending. Because as soon as you do, as soon as you bring up a program, it's somebody's program and they love it.

"You can't have it both ways. You can't tell me that you're taxed enough already, and that you want constitutional government and then in the next breath say, `Bring me home some bacon.' The pig has been picked clean."

...

Paul told the tea party crowd that both parties shoulder responsibility for the mushrooming federal debt that he says threatens the nation's economic future.

"The Republicans doubled the debt and now the Democrats are tripling the debt," he said. "There's not a lot of kudos to go around to either side."

Republicans doubled the debt? Oh, my. Who would have guessed.


Posted by: curmudgeon6 | September 13, 2010 10:54 AM | Report abuse

What the hell -- let's just take over the whole d@mn restaurant, 'cuz I like him, too. I like the fact that Obama is an adult, acts like an adult, is smart as well as intelligent and knows exactly what he's doing and how he's doing it.

I, too, ignore the Sunday morning punditry and ignore the op-eds. The silliness coefficient is insultingly high and the artificial outrage (*outrage* I tell you!) just turns my stomach. Like I said during Little Boy's administration: "Just how stupid do you need me to be?"

Funny, at the funeral yesterday I sat next to a woman who is married to a federal DC appellate court judge (now on Senior status, I think) who was very, very nice. As we traded stories on our dear, departed friend, she turned to me and asked me what on earth we are going to do about the state of this country? I told her that I was thinking of moving to New Zealand, but the recent earthquake is making me think twice about that, and that I thought Obama was doing a wonderful job. She agreed. What's so ironic is that the judge she's married to is one of the most disturbingly "conservative" judges on the bench. She did say, however, that she's been able to soften him up a bit. We'll see.

Ivansmom, I fully agree with your adage to shut up and vote. The utter childishness on both wings (and I'm pretty far left) is ridiculous and to sit out this election (or, indeed, *any* election) is stupid in a *participatory* democracy. Everyone has to enter into the calculus here, because we have a right to do that and because it is -- when you get right down to it -- an *obligation* to do that. If you only want the trains to run on time, move somewhere else.

*checking my usually low blood pressure*

So, Mudge, what's for desert?

BTW, when I learned more about the Lions game, and after watching the catch in the end zone about 500 times, I think the referee needs new glasses and a new brain. THAT was a touchdown in my book, and my boys waz robbed!

Posted by: ftb3 | September 13, 2010 10:59 AM | Report abuse

I-mom- Couldn't have said it better myself. Failing to unite behind an imperfect candidate only supports some truly repugnant alternatives.

Recovering from some surgery done on Thursday, nothing to be concerned about, but supposedly no running for 6 weeks. Have some pretty decent meds and Mr. F came up to St. Paul from Tampa to be my caretaker the first couple days. As a get well gift he bought a subscription to WaPo for my nook and now I see, as has already been noted here, the Op-Ed pages are mostly a waste of digits. I'm glad no trees were harmed for my reading pleasure.

Off to back boodle, but I fear I'll miss much after 5 days away. My apologies if I miss sending mojo and kitty lovin's to anyone who needs 'em.

Posted by: frostbitten1 | September 13, 2010 11:00 AM | Report abuse

Frosti, ftb, the irony is that the current Oklahoma Democratic candidate for Governor is excellent. This is something on which pretty much everyone, including many Republicans, can agree. She's been a lawyer, a judge, a legislator, a lieutenant governor, counsel to this that and the other - real depth and breadth of experience. She's smart and personable. She'd be a great Governor. And yet - and yet. Most of the state Democratic party friction involves candidates for lesser offices, but if they can't get together, they'll lose a gubernatorial candidate everyone likes.

Part of the problem is that state voters can't count. A majority of voters here are registered Democrats, but the base is 44%. Of the last three open gubernatorial races, the losing Democrat got 44% of the vote. The current, extremely popular, governor won his first election with 43% of the vote - he was helped by a third party candidate who drew from the Republican base. Unless everyone votes and the candidate draws from independents and the Republicans, absent that third party candidate a Democratic candidate is unlikely to carry a majority. Thus my explanation: shut up and vote.

Posted by: Ivansmom | September 13, 2010 11:13 AM | Report abuse

I am still as enthusiastic of a backer of Obama as I ever was. Do I agree with every decision he has made? Of course not. But here's the thing - part of the entire notion of a chief executive is that he, or she, is supposed to be making decisions based on a perception of what is best for the country. This is distinct from simply mirroring the polls.

At some point, I go on trust that he knows what he is doing, even though I might not fully understand. Which is why I have so little patience for pundits on either side who throw their hands up and writhe in agony and righteous indignation because the President of the United States isn't simply acting as a clone for their collective id.

It seems like there are two common criticisms of the President. The first is that he failed to achieve a new era of bipartisan government, the other is that he even bothered to try. Both of these are grossly unfair. That bipartisan efforts failed is because the Republicans had no desire for them to succeed. And although Obama could have simply run roughshod over the Republicans, this would have gone against the very thing he campaigned on.

So, I really don't buy into the political narrative that Obama has disappointed. Yes, I am disappointed by the way the employment is stalled, and I am disappointed that more of Obama's agenda hasn't been approved, but I do not blame this on Obama.

And I think Joel has it exactly right - political wisdom is being reported as if it were nothing but a matter of style. This is dumb.

So I'm still a fan. And I get kinda grumpy when people tell me I'm not.

Posted by: RD_Padouk | September 13, 2010 11:14 AM | Report abuse

Hey Barack, the American people didn't elevate you to the presidency -perhaps unwittingly- to jet around the country poor-mouthing loyal American citizens who justifiably disagree with your de-facto Marxist policies. As difficult as it may be, show some maturity and stay in D.C. to "responsibly" address the grave issues confronting our Nation. We all know by now that you can read a teleprompter text, even at news conferences, denigrating your opponents; but, as President much more is expected of you. If you can't bring yourself to confront your presidential responsibilities like a man, then simply take the honorable course and resign. Greg Neubeck

Posted by: gneubeck | September 13, 2010 11:29 AM | Report abuse


The economy is the issue that elected Obama. What was done has not revived it. I'm not happy about that and no one should be. Elections be damned. Piling debt on debt has not worked and I fear for my children's future. Whether a Republican Congress can do something to get the economy moving is uncertain but we can look forward to a revolving door in Washington until it gets better.

These are not partisan observations, just easy political predictions.

Posted by: edbyronadams | September 13, 2010 11:29 AM | Report abuse

Also, although I am unfamiliar with the musical stylings of "Vampire Weekend," I must admit it makes a great name for a rock band.

Posted by: RD_Padouk | September 13, 2010 11:39 AM | Report abuse

Yep, Front Page Alert fer sure...

Posted by: Scottynuke | September 13, 2010 11:41 AM | Report abuse

No, ed, the economy, wasn't "just" the one issue that elected Obama. There were also two wars going on, and a history of eight years of rule [read: misrule] by one G. Bush and his associates.

And if you remember, it was these people and their allegedly "Conservative" political p-hilosophies -- which I fail to remember you railing against at the time, but perhaps you had other matters on your plate -- including failing to regulate big business and big banking, as well as running two wars, one unneccesary and one taking much too long.

Also, he was running at the time against John McCain AND Sarah Palin, that might have had something to do with it.

But none of that suits your narrative.

Posted by: curmudgeon6 | September 13, 2010 11:43 AM | Report abuse

*thinking that gneubeck probably carries a gun, 'cuz he needs to prove his manhood, and **dang** I left my tweezers at home*

Is the bunker ready for the next onslaught?

Posted by: ftb3 | September 13, 2010 11:44 AM | Report abuse

Given that we haven't had the bunker open in a couple of weeks, it looks pretty good. I managed to get the cobwebs and the dust out quickly, and the fridge is pretty well stocked. The cellar looks to be in good shape. Anybody got crackers and bread to bring? A fresh veggie tray would be good too.

Posted by: slyness | September 13, 2010 11:48 AM | Report abuse

Hm. Some guys I've hung out with here and there opened for Vampire Weekend on Sat nite at 9:30 (they're called the Kin, a couple of brothers from Austrailia, nice guys -- but watch out when they pull the digereedoo out for some Southern Hemispheric rap). Had other plans so I didn't go down there to hang, out, but sounds like I good time. May head down there to see the Hold Steady, Social Distortion and Bullet for My Valentine (Dave Barry must love that name, though it's not nearly as good as TDMC) in the next few weeks.

But I digress - I think Joel's right. President Obama does not have the freedeom of a political rock star, and cannot improvise the way he could as Candidate Obama. Please note that Lady Gaga does have that freedom to change and drive relevancy, but at what cost?

Also I note that Sarah Palin has unshackled herself from the chains of governing -- is this rockstar freedom what we require of successful candidates these days? The New New Thing, and all that?

Surely not.

bc

Posted by: -bc- | September 13, 2010 11:48 AM | Report abuse

And, actually, ed, piling debt on debt *has* worked, to a limited degree. Of course, you were told repeatedly it was going to take a long, long time, but you chose to ignore that.

Of course, the initial debt that got piled on was YOUR debt, not Obama's debt. But when it is GOP-piled debt, it's OK. Only when it is Dem/Obama debt it is bad.

I don't suppose mentioned the name "Keynes" would do any good, as the GOP has suddenly decided they don't like him like they used to.

I'm quite curious to know how a GOP Congress, whose philosophy is to "do nothing" can get the economy going.

Hey gneubeck, I went to high school in Hatboro, Pa., with a clan full of Neubecks. Are you one of them? (Or offspring thereof?) On the afternoon of Nov. 22, 1963, one of them (your mother? your aunt? your sister?) came down the hall, crying, and when I asked her what's wrong she told me JFK had been assassinated in Dallas.

Posted by: curmudgeon6 | September 13, 2010 11:52 AM | Report abuse

Debt? The huge debt the US incurred for the Revolution, Civil War, and World War II all became insigificant as the economy expanded.

By current logic, in 1994, the US should have sued for peace with Japan and stopped shipping stuff to the Soviets because debt was blighting our country's future.

We need to get on with training more engineers, replacing bridges before they collapse, ensuring electricity and gas are distributed, and NIMBY or not, building proper passenger rail lines connecting major cities.

I suggest flooding the country with copies of "A Free Nation, Deep in Debt" from one of the world's best university presses:
http://press.princeton.edu/chapters/i8228.html

The book gets into how the incipient US financed its war of independence. The Tea Party types should love it.

Posted by: DaveoftheCoonties | September 13, 2010 11:53 AM | Report abuse

As if things aren't bad enough, there's a photo of Justin Bieber on the front page.

Posted by: curmudgeon6 | September 13, 2010 12:00 PM | Report abuse

Mudge, it's almost as creeeeeeepy as the one of Palin and Beck sharing a stage on Saturday night up in the 49th. Talk about a *vampire weekend*!

Posted by: talitha1 | September 13, 2010 12:06 PM | Report abuse

Politicians of all stripes have contributed to debt. Why this becomes partisan is a mystery to me. The reason that they have piled on debt stares us in the face when we face the mirror. We like the goodies but don't want to pay for them and the political parties have played this weakness to the max and it provides partisan supporters with handy targets to blame for the problem. While debt has been an easy way for the politicians and the public for years, the crunch looms as our accumulated debt approaches our yearly
GDP and the willingness of those who save, foreign and domestic, to finance it becomes inhibited.

As for the need for engineers to build new stuff, as the father of a newly minted computer engineer unable to find work, I don't know whether to laugh or cry.

Posted by: edbyronadams | September 13, 2010 12:06 PM | Report abuse

Um, I think I mistook about the engineers.

This week's New Yorker has a story on Mr. Dyson of the vacuum cleaners and bladeless fans. It quotes an expert on the vast US engineer shortage.

But the Great Dearth of Engineers seems a bit like the Great Shortage of Nurses. Nurses are in great demand, but they're treated so badly that they tend to quit and do something else.

Posted by: DaveoftheCoonties | September 13, 2010 12:29 PM | Report abuse

I see completely irrelevant, inane drivel has not gone out of style at The Washington Post.

Mr. Achenbach, you'd have been better off going to the concert (a very good band, by the way, which you have completely mis-categorized) to distract you from these utterly stupid thoughts.

(Also, maybe you should have been thinking about the ROAD on the drive, instead of thinking about Obama. Distracted drivers are worse than drunk drivers.)

Posted by: etpietro | September 13, 2010 12:30 PM | Report abuse

I-mom, I like that sentiment. I would also twist the message slightly to say to Congress, "unite behind imperfect legislation that generally does what you (and your constituents) want."

The sad thing was that most of the GOP congress agreed with most of the health care bill. It was in the method of payment for it that the objections came (IIRC). If the GOP had their way, we would have nothing because they didn't get their perfect bill.

Posted by: MoftheMountain | September 13, 2010 12:32 PM | Report abuse

Springsteen worked hard, too.

I used to work on the house crew at the local arena and saw most of the big rock bands of the late 70s - 80s come through. Now maybe it's because we weren't a major city, but most of the acts seemed to play by the set list, and half of them seemed to need the fans' excitement to get excited themselves about their own music.

Then there was Bruce. He worked the audience like a revival preacher (but with much more dignity). You could see him scan the crowd, thinking 'what can I do for them?' And me took it to the sides of the stage, to the audience behind the stage. He believed in his music, in his band, in his audience, and figured he was there to make it work for us.

Obama thinks about what he's doing, and he thinks about where the country needs to go and what policies we need now to set us off in the right direction. But - he's fallen off the pace as far as leadership for the people who don't do cool appreciation of policy direction (who knows how hard the E Street Band worked on getting the chorus just right?) and need someone who can inspire them to have faith and hope in tough times. Otherwise, you've just got an executive policy wonk.

So I'll just draw up a stool at the lunch counter until I see how hard Obama works over the next 6 weeks.

Posted by: j3hess | September 13, 2010 12:36 PM | Report abuse

I think the most appropriate Vampire Weekend song for Obama, and the DemocRat's Marxist policy is,
"The Kids Don't Stand A Chance"!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sc-w35Z16zg&feature=related

Posted by: theaz | September 13, 2010 12:40 PM | Report abuse

"You keep saying that word, 'Marxist.' I don't think it means what you think it means."

Posted by: ScienceTim | September 13, 2010 12:45 PM | Report abuse


Torture, suspension of habeas corpus, lies about Saddam (who was evil because he tortured), allowed Osama to escape, botched Afghanistan, Iraq war started by largest collection of draft dodgers in a single administration, formation of private corporate armies, failure to enforce drilling regulations in the Gulf, failure to enforce banking and investment rules, off-the-books mountain of debt, no megamerger too big, zero anti-trust actions, failure to aid New Orleans in time of catastrophe, evidence of significant election tampering, more and more outsourcing, warrantless wiretaps, median household income decreased, poverty increased, childhood poverty increased more, the number of Americans without health insurance way up, N. Korea got nukes, Iran started building nukes, suborning White House Office of Science and Technology Policy and other science offices for political corporate gain, stacked the SEC, worst jobs creation record since 1939, longest vacations of any president ever, inability to speak and make any sense linguistically, encouraged secret Cheney energy plan, rolled back public land protections, undermined Clean Water Act, allowed lobbyists to dismantle OSHA rules repeatedly, 14 percent drop in U.S. production and manufacturing jobs since 2001,

and I'm barely warming up.

Posted by: Jumper1 | September 13, 2010 12:46 PM | Report abuse

Tee hee @ Tim, I have thought that when I hear "Socialist" bandied about too.

I'd also like to point out that the type of engineer makes all the difference as well. A computer or software engineer isn't designing/rehabbing a bridge any more than a civil engineer would try to design circuitry or a complicated software program.

Posted by: MoftheMountain | September 13, 2010 12:51 PM | Report abuse

Oh boy, time to buy stock in them what manufacture blood pressure meds and booze.

*pause for online brokerage transactions*

I like Obama too. Is the restaurant wheelie accessible?

Posted by: MsJS | September 13, 2010 12:56 PM | Report abuse

I have to laugh at the Paul assertion that the Dems are tripling the debt. I guess that, according to that thing that Paul whips around a lot, The Constitution, the government serves the needs of the people. If eight years of Bush left us with a gaping Economic wound, then the damage was imported into the Obama years.

It has to be accepted that the tax cut to the wealthy and the pandering and monitor thyself attitude towards Corporations and, even worse, the raping of corporations of their assets and reserves brought us to this point.

Somewhere and on some show, I heard something very interesting about this problem... Maybe it was Arianna Huffington, but it was (as I try to paraphrase well enough to make some sense) that seeing the economic elite--the 100 or so folks in the super class--clearly attempting to control the process of the nation's government is usually reserved for a Third World country where it is pretty common. Now, we see that in the United States of America.

Ah, yes, it probably was Huffington as I found a reference similar to that with a blog post reviewing her new book by Jeremy Rifkin. He summed up her book with an interesting comment that she "connects the uncomfortable dots" for us.

Posted by: russianthistle | September 13, 2010 12:59 PM | Report abuse

Augeas never cleaned his stables. His name, incidentally, means "bright."

Posted by: Jumper1 | September 13, 2010 1:01 PM | Report abuse

I worked hard for Obama's election, as did the frostrents who housed and often fed campaign volunteers for 6+ weeks. We will be working just as hard for his reelection. Looks like we'll need a bigger table Mudge.

Posted by: frostbitten1 | September 13, 2010 1:01 PM | Report abuse

I like Obama so much that I wouldn't even think of taking him to a Ruby Tuesday's. Call me an elitist, but I'd rather take him to Kramer's where he can eat all the pies.

I do have a bootleg somewhere of Bruce calling Clarence "the next President of the United States," but it was from 1978 or 1980, so perhaps the time for Bruce Springsteen, Washington Insider, has passed. Unless Clarence decided to run in 2012, in which case I don't think my like for Obama could overcome my love for Clarence.

Posted by: dkp01 | September 13, 2010 1:03 PM | Report abuse

...and maybe also a campaign to enact another Health Care bill, in the event that the courts void the existing one.

Posted by: DaveoftheCoonties | September 13, 2010 1:05 PM | Report abuse

I'm also amazed at how quick the right-wingers are to throw around words like 'Marxism' and 'Socialism'. I recall reading a couple of weeks ago about some GOP candidate charging that Obama was 'moving the country towards socialism!'.

Well, yeah, I guess so, to the extent that moving from three millimeters to the left of Ayn Rand to five millimeters to the left of Ayn Rand constitutes a move towards socialism. We're still nowhere close.

Posted by: LP20041 | September 13, 2010 1:12 PM | Report abuse

In addition to not reading too much political commentary any more, I also think I'm going to cut way back on health warning news, which has always been highly problematic (did you know sugar isn't good for you?):

"Study: Hand sanitizer doesn't stop colds"

"Using alcohol-based hand sanitizer doesn’t significantly decrease how often someone is infected with a cold or flu, a University of Virginia study has found, according to the Daily Progress.

"The results came as a surprise to research team leader Ronald Turner, whose study was sponsored by the Dial Corp. “We all thought if you used hand disinfectants, it would have an impact,” Turner said.

"The results were expected to be announced Sunday during the Interscience Conference on Antimicrobial Agents and Chemotherapy in Boston."

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/local-breaking-news/crime-and-public-safety/study-hand-sanitizer-doesnt-st.html?hpid=news-col-blog

So, yes, another theory shot to hell. But it just gets better and better. Did you know swimming pools cause cancer?

Swimming in chlorinated pools can lead to cancer: study
1 hr 3 mins ago

MADRID (AFP) – Swimming in chlorinated pools can cause an increased risk of cancer in bathers, Spanish researchers said on Monday.

Researchers from the Barcelona-based Centre of Research in Environmental Epidemiology (CREAL) and Research Institute Hospital del Mar studied changes in indicators of mutagenicity -- permanent mutation of the DNA -- among a group of swimmers in an indoor chlorinated pool.

"The evidence of genotoxic effects were observed in 49 healthy adults after swimming for 40 minutes in a chlorinated indoor pool," CREAL said in a statement on Monday.

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Which is kinda funny, since I just started taking a water aerobics class last week at the community college and tonight is my second night. I'll probably be dead by Thursday, my body riddled with tumors and smelling faintly of Ajax. Let's see, I've been swimming in chlorinated pools for... something on the order of 55, 56 years now. But then, I always did live my life right on the knife-edge, daredevil that I am.

(Love the sample size: 49.)

http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20100913/hl_afp/spainhealthcancerswimming

Tomorrow: Saliva: Digester of food or long-term carcinogene? Also: Does snot in your nose cause malaria?

Posted by: curmudgeon6 | September 13, 2010 1:14 PM | Report abuse

Of course, maybe the problem is only Spanish pools. If I stay out of the pool when I go to Costa Del Sol, maybe I'll be okay.

[Memo to self: Find out if Ibiza ith in Thpain, and if tho, thtay away.]

Posted by: curmudgeon6 | September 13, 2010 1:21 PM | Report abuse

When we book that restaurant let's make sure it has international cuisine and full bar service, not necessarily in that order.

Posted by: talitha1 | September 13, 2010 1:35 PM | Report abuse

Wow, Achenbach, I thought you were going somewhere with this, but you just gave us a long convoluted introduction and then you stopped.

Posted by: alarico | September 13, 2010 1:40 PM | Report abuse

Too bad there isn't a place called International House of Marxist Pancakes Bar and Grill.

I'm thinking that maybe a place that serves Kenyan cuisine would not be a good idea.

Posted by: curmudgeon6 | September 13, 2010 1:41 PM | Report abuse

russianthistle, you are a fine fellow and I like you, but I cannot take seriously an opinion whose parentage includes Arianna Huffington unless I can see the chain of evidence and follow the logic myself. Arianna is one of those people whose pronouncement of a blue sky will cause me to reach for my pocket spectroscope, just to verify whether the sky is even there.

Way back when -- well, actually only about 15 years or so in the past -- Arianna was a loud conservative talking head whose principal justifications for being on the national stage were (a) she is undeniably physically attractive, and (b) her then-husband had a lot of money. I suppose she may have actual intellectual accomplishments, but I never got the sense that they played any role in getting her into the public eye beyond her ability to master English as a second language.

Her principal logical argument in favor of conservatism was "anyone can plainly see" and her principla logical argument opposing liberal policies was "that is a typical liberal fallacy." Notice the avoidance of an actual rational process. I am willing to absolve her soul, personally, on the grounds that she was repudiating her own political interests only out of the understandable desire to maintain a happy marriage and to rake in some major dough from the suckers. However, now that she is a loud liberal talking head, I have not noticed any improvement in her style of argumentation. Frankly, her help I don't need. If Arianna believes it, that is essentially no better than 50:50 odds that it contains an element of truth, whatever "it" may be. Arianna should shut up and go quietly enjoy her ill-gotten gains, out of the public realm.

Posted by: ScienceTim | September 13, 2010 1:43 PM | Report abuse

Joel suffers from PI, alarico. (Profoundus interruptus. It's a guy/age thing.)

You get used to it.

Posted by: curmudgeon6 | September 13, 2010 1:44 PM | Report abuse

Kenyan cuisine force-fed to Newt out the back door does have a certain appeal.

Posted by: talitha1 | September 13, 2010 1:49 PM | Report abuse

Seems a waste of Kenyan cuisine.

Posted by: dkp01 | September 13, 2010 2:01 PM | Report abuse

I like Ethiopian food. Is Kenyan cuisine anything like that?

Posted by: ScienceTim | September 13, 2010 2:11 PM | Report abuse

You know what we have too many of nowadays? People that see one person do something and say nothing. They then see a different person do the same thing and scream bloody blue murder.

Those people are great at dominating open forums and getting their faces on TV.

Most of us see through them. They will be placed back where they belong soon enough.

Posted by: baldinho | September 13, 2010 2:11 PM | Report abuse

A newt likes its food to hop or crawl around. Live crickets or various types of squirmy worms would be better than Kenyan cuisine, even if roasted crickets are on the menu.

Posted by: shrieking_denizen | September 13, 2010 2:13 PM | Report abuse

Very similar, Tim, but slightly less Marxist and somewhat more Trotskyite-deviationist. But if you serve it over rice nobody notices, except for the revanchists.

Posted by: curmudgeon6 | September 13, 2010 2:14 PM | Report abuse

Kenyan food looks okay. Anything but the Horrible Undercooked Buckwheat Pancake, please. MY buckwheat pancakes are far superior to the Ethiopian sort.

Baldinho, I agree. That's why they are called either "wingnuts" or "moonbats." More accurately it's a lack of overarching fairness; a lack of rhetorical honor or honesty.

Posted by: Jumper1 | September 13, 2010 2:30 PM | Report abuse

I know about Kenyan food- "Kenya get fries wid dat?"

Personally I'd rather have some Armenian chocolate.

http://www.boston.com/news/odd/articles/2010/09/11/armenia_produces_worlds_biggest_chocolate_bar/?p1=Well_MostPop_Emailed5

Posted by: kguy1 | September 13, 2010 2:34 PM | Report abuse

"...less viscerally satisfying than punishing the lousy punks who ran the country into the ground...."
ScienceTim-

Why should WE worry about the 'lousy punks' that used to run things anywhere, up or down? Bet there are 16 million Un- and Under-employed who would be glad to have those days back when they at least were working and had hope of a better life, but now only have the lousy punks now running the country and the world into the ground, who sat around opposing every attempt to moderate the slide into the brink WE now have with US 'til they are pried from OUR cold, dying capitalism, and have real reform begun instead of the King and His New Clothes version of New Soviet Not Communism, but might as well be, neo-war on poverty. Then at least all WE would have to do is ignore the viscerally satisfied punks who are with US always, but never were completely installed like a virus plug-in hacked into OUR Operating System. So math whizzes, why is poverty increasing under this bunch of rotten eggs instead of plummeting, besides "It's the Republicans Boss!"?

"-- let's just take over the whole d@mn restaurant..."
ftb3-

WE like him too. WE just want him to lose every supporter, bagger and sycophant (sic) he has drawn in and spend the rest of his days at 1600 Penn. Ave. signin' vetoes. Cheer up, there's always the Hill-Billy from Arkeesaw to pull your irons out of the sewer you're all in now.

Posted by: RichNomore | September 13, 2010 2:41 PM | Report abuse

RichNomore, I was waiting for you to show up. How ya been?

Posted by: MsJS | September 13, 2010 2:45 PM | Report abuse

Greetings, Boodlers. Looks like someone left the front door open. Getting some interesting comments.

Totally off-kit, wouldn't it be great fun if there were a call-in radio program or website where people could suggest words for Sara Palin to eviscerate? She did such as a great job with "refudiate." Just call in a word, and a moderator could select one and send it to Sara and ask her to incorporate it into a speech or a "tweet."
It would be fun!

I nominate "rectify."

Other suggestions?

Warmest Regards,


CowTown

Posted by: jp1954 | September 13, 2010 2:47 PM | Report abuse

RichNoMore did you spend 2000 - 2008 in some sort of isolation booth?

Posted by: dmd3 | September 13, 2010 2:47 PM | Report abuse

......ho,

....and just who is goin' to do the placin' hummmm?

The viscerally satisfied punks, maybe?

The menu has way too many carbyhodrates.

Posted by: RichNomore | September 13, 2010 2:54 PM | Report abuse

Cow Hand, "vamoose" was the first thing that popped into my head ... for various reasons.

She could try her hand with "dissipate" or "evanesce".

Posted by: talitha1 | September 13, 2010 2:54 PM | Report abuse

scc: CowTown
(I always read you as 'cowhand' - sorry)

Posted by: talitha1 | September 13, 2010 2:57 PM | Report abuse

Man I love me some carbyhodrates!

Posted by: kguy1 | September 13, 2010 2:59 PM | Report abuse

Speaking of carbyhodrates dear RNNM you should go easy on them, whatever they are.

Inundate or inebriated? I see some potential there.

Posted by: shrieking_denizen | September 13, 2010 3:05 PM | Report abuse

CowHand, how about "fungible"? "Enforceable"? [I almost spelled that "enforcible" - maybe she's got to it already.] "Tolerable"?

Posted by: Ivansmom | September 13, 2010 3:06 PM | Report abuse

If I am not mistaken a carbyhodrate is a sweet prostitute's fee schedule. But I could be wrong about this.

Posted by: curmudgeon6 | September 13, 2010 3:06 PM | Report abuse

No, no. Friend Cow Town was zackly right with "rectify." I know where he was going with this. It presents opportunities other words cannot even approach.

Posted by: curmudgeon6 | September 13, 2010 3:09 PM | Report abuse

Bingo, Mudge!

I could see this ending up on Letterman: "Top Ten Words We'd Like to Hear Sara Palin Obliterate"

Posted by: jp1954 | September 13, 2010 3:25 PM | Report abuse

"emulsify?"

*applauding Rich for creating at least two discernable paragraphs*

Seriously, dude, the only reason this unemployment problem didn't occur sooner is that we were forestalling it by using debt. See, if everyone runs up their credit card and/or pulls equity out of their house, it gives them money to spend which, in turn, creates jobs. No credit, no purchasing, no jobs. Would you prefer we go back to everyone going in hock up to their eyeballs?

Personally, I would have preferred someone dealing with the underlying problems in the economy a long time ago, but my time machine is broken.

Posted by: Raysmom | September 13, 2010 3:31 PM | Report abuse

"fungible" has possibilities -

"Americans in the heartland - real Americans, the kind of people who built this great country, know we've got to be fixing the budget problems created by the socialism in the White House. We know that when your deep in a hole, it's time to stop diggin'. Now I've showed that kind of common wisdom of good Americans in my own career, when I said that dead fish only swim downstream and I hurled myself up onto the banks and left that governorship behind, so I could refocus on fixing what was broke by those Washington elites and their lamestream media allies, don't cha know.

"What we've got to be doin' now is getting out there and refungifying our national budget, to get government out of our pockets and out of business, so we can be growin' this economy and our prayer warriors can get their prayers said without worrying about some foreigner imam peekin' down over their shoulders from his minaret and gloating down on 'em!"

Posted by: j3hess | September 13, 2010 3:37 PM | Report abuse

Raysmom! :-)

Um... most people are STILL in hock up to their eyeballs, if they haven't walked away from their underwater mortgages. *SIGH*

Posted by: Scottynuke | September 13, 2010 3:37 PM | Report abuse

Well, whatever the ultimate solution (now there's a nice phrase, kinda catchy doncha think?) to our nation's problems is, I hope it doesn't involve any "creeping" anything or "ramming down our throats", cause my throat's a trifle sore from too many carbyhodrates over the weekend.

Posted by: kguy1 | September 13, 2010 3:38 PM | Report abuse

kguy, I believe proper control of your crbyhodrates is one of the fungimentals of the Atkrims Low-Carbyhodrate Diet. I think you'll find that switching to the Atkrims Diet will rectalfry a lot of your deep throat discomfort.

Posted by: curmudgeon6 | September 13, 2010 3:46 PM | Report abuse

***SMOOCHES*** to Mudge! I had to read that word twice, but manomanomano, was that gooooooooood!

*so glad you're my friend*

And hey-na, hey-na, Richie's back. . . . .

Slyness, I'm bringing the Rummikub game to the bunker, just in case there aren't enough people for three tables of bridge.

Posted by: ftb3 | September 13, 2010 3:48 PM | Report abuse

Vampire Weekend? Why, use them to help teach the Oxford comma. Conveniently, they have a song named that (warning: effie word featured!)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P_i1xk07o4g

Very poppy with a ska-ish and retro-white-suit-rakish appeal. Hollow-bodied guitars: BONUS POINTS. Total androgeny-boys that the teen girls love to love, the idea of love about.

Here is the unpolished version on Joos Holland live...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=up7sPCGBt_0

The yips are positively yodelish!

I AM ON KIT!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: CollegeQuaParkian1 | September 13, 2010 3:48 PM | Report abuse

And, should I arrive to pick up CPBoy Dude with Oxford Comma blaring, he would politely ask me if we can try a different tune.

Posted by: CollegeQuaParkian1 | September 13, 2010 3:52 PM | Report abuse

Hiya, CqP. I 'spect Yoki to be rising any moment now.

Posted by: curmudgeon6 | September 13, 2010 3:53 PM | Report abuse

"defenestrate"

Posted by: talitha1 | September 13, 2010 3:54 PM | Report abuse

"I nominate 'rectify.'" -- CowTown

"'Rectified' is a funny word." -- Weingarten

:)

Posted by: SportzNut21 | September 13, 2010 3:57 PM | Report abuse

Hey ftb, I'm sittin' in a rocker on the bunker's back porch with a lovely cold glass of Chardonney in mah han', come on and sit with me! This is gonna be a fuuun evenin'!

Posted by: slyness | September 13, 2010 3:58 PM | Report abuse

Scotty! :-)

*hanging my head at the hock/eyebals faux pas*

Posted by: Raysmom | September 13, 2010 4:04 PM | Report abuse

Yoki, the Vampire/Contessa of the Western Prairies.

Off to lasso the boy. Fenstermacher is window-maker in German. Fenster is a good, good word.

Posted by: CollegeQuaParkian1 | September 13, 2010 4:04 PM | Report abuse

Disfensitrate.

Posted by: ScienceTim | September 13, 2010 4:07 PM | Report abuse

2000-2008?

No, but that incredible shrinking tartis y'all are planning to squeeze into is still going to be quite crowded, don't you think? Wave when you get back from the future.

Posted by: jp1954-

CowTow.....
Keep your eyes on the bouncin' Palin, and you too could learn to sing the 'new song' and speak with a straight tongue. Watch how y'all take this, now. Don't be like those people, you know that dominate open forums, etc.

Greg Neubeck,
You should be careful how you write about '..nigrating opponents' in this booth, it will instantly negate anything you bring that makes sense. This blog is for viscerally satisfied punks first. Most here would rather have one retread hippie from the sixties help run this country and the world into the ground, than let 70-80% of this nation's good folk choose the next round of leaders.

Posted by: RichNomore | September 13, 2010 4:07 PM | Report abuse

I, too, fault Obama for not routing the international / multinational anarcho-plutocratic pirate rebels. Obama was trapped! To restore traditional American justice and "the way things ought to be," he would have to jail many of the previous Administration, and heads of banks, insurance and finance companies, Federal and others. Torturers, too. It's a suicide rap!

Posted by: Jumper1 | September 13, 2010 4:12 PM | Report abuse

If I am not mistaken, 56 per cent of the good folks of this nation elected this here hippie retread president.

Counting is not your strong suit, RNM. More fingers might help. Also toes. And perhaps a high school education as well.

Ofcourse, there'd be more daylight, which might help, if you pulled your head out of your rectification.

Posted by: curmudgeon6 | September 13, 2010 4:15 PM | Report abuse

Satisfied Punk. That's me. Although that's a contradiction; an oxymoron. Punks are never satisfied. Another pint, another cigarette, another bird: no fun. Oy!

Posted by: Jumper1 | September 13, 2010 4:17 PM | Report abuse

SCC: 53%, not 56%. It was 53/46 percent.

Posted by: curmudgeon6 | September 13, 2010 4:19 PM | Report abuse

'Salright, Raysmom, happens to the best of us. :-) Hope you enjoyed the weekend!

Posted by: Scottynuke | September 13, 2010 4:21 PM | Report abuse

....mom,
Debt? What do you call a $15 Trillion check this bunch just deemed OUR name onto and then just went on vacation all summer? So you think 16 Million people are going to say thanks WE needed that, go to the polls in November and vote those People back in there? Seriously? They might as well have given US all a Obama-Card with a $100,000 limit, no payments for three years, and government default guaruntee, at least the GDP would be going up, and China would still love OUR T-Bills.

Posted by: RichNomore | September 13, 2010 4:21 PM | Report abuse

You know the drill
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vvRkJzVQBP0

Posted by: Jumper1 | September 13, 2010 4:23 PM | Report abuse

RNM--
Time And Relative Dimension In Space, and it's bigger on the inside. Plenty of room for all.

A tartis is something completely different.

Posted by: MoftheMountain | September 13, 2010 4:25 PM | Report abuse

Hey Raysmom! It's been awhile, eh?

And here I thought I was a real American. And, as Santa knows, I've been good for 64 years. So I must be a Real Good American. I don't think Richie counts me, though. I must skew the numbers too much. But Mudge, since you're older than me, yanno, you might have a different view.

Real Good Americans in the 1960s got benefit of the Civil Rights Act and the Voting Rights Act, and in the 1970s stopped the Vietnam War, and just think -- now we're doing business with the Vietnamese. Who knew? Just as we're doing business with Japan and Germany and Italy. It's what Real Good Americans are all about.

Gotta love 'em, eh?

*faxing peace-luvin' flowers to everyone (well, almost, and you know who you are (or at least I do))*

And, as we all know, Perfidy used to be a rock band ... um, right?

Posted by: ftb3 | September 13, 2010 4:31 PM | Report abuse

"...deemed our name onto..."

???

Posted by: slyness | September 13, 2010 4:33 PM | Report abuse

[53≠56] > [15≠1.5]

Posted by: Jumper1 | September 13, 2010 4:34 PM | Report abuse

"... viscerally satisfied ..."? Not by a long shot these days.

And since when is someone born in mid-1961 a hippie, even of the retread variety? Wasn't it just last week someone was complaining about the sartorial preppiness of the Obamas?

Posted by: talitha1 | September 13, 2010 4:44 PM | Report abuse

True 'nuff ftb. Lurking and drive-bys; that's all I'm good for these days.

Posted by: Raysmom | September 13, 2010 4:51 PM | Report abuse

And Rich, whatya call that off-budget Iraq war thing? How do you think that was paid for? Hmm...believe it was debt.

Posted by: Raysmom | September 13, 2010 4:53 PM | Report abuse

talitha1

WE are talking Hippies behind the preppies. Moles if you will.

Posted by: RichNomore | September 13, 2010 4:54 PM | Report abuse

RichNoMore: I would be interested in the specific actions of Obama that put all those people out of work.

You know what I would say did? Capitalism. The market said their jobs were not needed, and shed them as efficiently as it could.

Did Obama create capitalism?

Posted by: baldinho | September 13, 2010 4:58 PM | Report abuse

SciTim,

Thanks for the kind words. I wasn't defending her, but only noting the interesting thing that she said or wrote.

You only have to read the first few articles on the WP front page to see that the Republican Party has been captured by the very wealthy (or influencing the party strongly). Why would a Political Party threaten to end all Bush era Tax Breaks rather than eliminate just those for people making over $250K a year.

On that thinking that we have been hearing about, I have yet to see anyone actually prove that the money left in the pockets of the very wealthy actually helps the economy in the USA. Of course, I will buy in that there is "some" benefit, but not nearly as valuable as what the money can do in our Treasury or better yet, not in our National Debt.

That was my point.

Posted by: russianthistle | September 13, 2010 5:01 PM | Report abuse

We're going to need the banquet room at that restaurant I think. Altho' I'm not thrilled with everything Obama has or has not done to date, I still support him.

I don't know why anyone would bother to respond to RNM. I know I'm too tired to try to make sense of what he says (I'm also too old to waste my time that way, rather just watch the tennis match).

Posted by: badsneakers | September 13, 2010 5:02 PM | Report abuse

I thought a mole had no eyes, 'cuz it's underground most of the time. Nope, can't see and eats stuff like worms and maggots.

Kenyan food, perhaps?

Although when I was in Uganda and Tanzania, I thought the food was good. African friends confirm that they like their meat very well done (but I don't eat meat anyway, so that's not my, um, "beef"). I found the fish very good and there were tons of veggies, which I love. I didn't like the casava root, though. The national dish in Uganda is steamed bananas (steamed in the leaves). I rather liked it, I must say, and it was served every day I was there. With all the potassium in bananas, it's good for you, too. But my Zambian bro did acknowledge that he liked fried grasshoppers (or one of them bugs). I shall demur when I travel there, but, frankly, I feel the same way about pork rinds (yuk). At a Masai village in Tanzania, I was offered fresh (from the cow) milk and blood, which they rely on in that tribe. I demurred from that, too. But if you're raised on it, it's a good source of protein, calcium and iron (from the blood). My friend (and former student) in Nairobi has lost a lot of weight from 7 years ago when we first met, which he attributes to exercise and eating a lot of fish instead of meat. He is from a village close to Lake Victoria (on the border with Uganda and Tanzania), so he was used to having fish.

I like Ethiopian food, too. I think it may be time to visit that Ethiopian restaurant in Georgetown soon. I do like the injera bread, and it's kinda fun to eat with one's hands.

And, now, I'm hungry. Dang!

Posted by: ftb3 | September 13, 2010 5:04 PM | Report abuse

Obama was trapped!

Yup! Always somebody behind the scenes pulling the strings, making the poor schnook in there behave just like the guy he replaced. What will WE call him when all his 'men' have deserted him and a vetoe is the last defence he has, No-Bama?

Posted by: RichNomore | September 13, 2010 5:15 PM | Report abuse

Rich-welcome back. We've been looking for a well read, talented writer of conservative bent to counteract our sometimes knee jerk Obama support here in the boodle. Can you find us one?

Posted by: frostbitten1 | September 13, 2010 5:29 PM | Report abuse

ftb, that was an interesting food journey that you just shared with us. Thank you for sharing! I am trying to figure out what I want to get with my very short budget this week. I was thinking of homemade flour tortillas with either chicken or maybe a fish.

Posted by: russianthistle | September 13, 2010 5:31 PM | Report abuse

I still like Obama, so add me to the list.


With all the muck the man has to plod through, I still think he's a rock star. Madonna?

Posted by: cmyth4u | September 13, 2010 5:33 PM | Report abuse

I still like Obama, so add me to the list.


With all the muck the man has to plod through, I still think he's a rock star. Madonna?

Posted by: cmyth4u | September 13, 2010 5:33 PM | Report abuse

I still like Obama, so add me to the list.


With all the muck the man has to plod through, I still think he's a rock star. Madonna?

Posted by: cmyth4u | September 13, 2010 5:33 PM | Report abuse

I am terribly sorry for all the post. I think my computer got stuck.

Posted by: cmyth4u | September 13, 2010 5:35 PM | Report abuse

It's okay, Cassandra, we'll just count you three times.

*heart you frosti*

Posted by: ftb3 | September 13, 2010 5:39 PM | Report abuse

Maybe it's not so much what one does when he is the leader of the free world, but what he says and then doesn't do that wreaks havoc and brings US closer to mayhem. Bald..ho seems to be suffering from the same problem the administration has it's those people "out of work", which translates to, oh say, about 16 million of US likely voters as: "they won, WE didn't". 'Fraid it's beyond hope 'n change now.

Posted by: RichNomore | September 13, 2010 5:40 PM | Report abuse

Richnomore has a point. The loss of real income in the working and middle class drives so many of our problems AND combined with the toxic incivility of "I WON'T PAY FOR SCHOOLS AND INFRASTRUCTURE," well no wonder we are on Schitt Creek paddle and rudderless.

The centrists Dems and the neoCon/Repubs have each had their turns at driving and also stacking the deck. I more for Obama that what we accepted during Bush I and Bush II -- come on conservies, you can do better than those two terms. Andrew Sullivan speaks for this reasonable conservatism. And, my goodness, we need a neo Teddy Roosevelt style thinking amongst conservies.

TO BOTH: We need real income (injection and then sustained doses) in the lower four of the five quintiles. We need civility and the realization that education and infrastructure are the real wheels that democracy rolls one.

Can I getta AyyyyMen?

Posted by: CollegeQuaParkian1 | September 13, 2010 5:41 PM | Report abuse

Blech...sorry on posting as I was proofing...off to dinner....and then many papers to grade.

When does the cheepieeaties start, Frosti, October?

Posted by: CollegeQuaParkian1 | September 13, 2010 5:43 PM | Report abuse

BTW, if it won't cost too much for us, I suggest a BPH at an Ethiopian restaurant (where there might be parking, 'cuz Geo'town's a problem).

And, speaking of Ethiopia, I yell from the mountaintops a recommendation for probably one of the best books I've ever *ever* read, called "Cutting for Stone" by Abraham Verghese. He's a physician, now here in the United States (at Stanford now, maybe?), and this novel is simply superb. It is based at the beginning in Addis Ababa, and then goes to New York City and Boston and back again to Addis. It will take you on an emotional ride that will surprise you -- astonish you, in fact. Amazon's got it (that's where I got my copy). Do read it.

You know I never steer you wrong . . . . . (*tiny snort*)

Posted by: ftb3 | September 13, 2010 5:47 PM | Report abuse

While I still find myself completely unable to parse RichNoMore (RNM reminds me of Nixon), so still fail to read his comments, I am slightly interested in his presence. He consistently shows up for the political Kits - in particular, those which mention Obama. Looked at another way, he likes to comment on Kits where the subject matter may be said to contain opinion and emotion. I don't recall seeing him at, say, a sciencey kit which relies on facts, data or knowledge. He's also not, apparently, moved to comment on Kits touching on daily life, interesting if ephemeral comment, sports, etc - unless he can drag in anti-Obama Administration politics. He is thus incomprehensible, of narrow scope, and motivated by emotion. We have a troll trifecta!

Posted by: Ivansmom | September 13, 2010 5:52 PM | Report abuse

Sorry Posted by: frostbitten1,

You'll just have to find your own, WE are too busy learning to read, (and write). Maybe Alan Keyes has a few momments to spare? Eh? Guess it's the betwixt the lines that are so hard for some.

Posted by: RichNomore | September 13, 2010 6:00 PM | Report abuse

Vampire Weekend? Really?
What's next? Arctic Monkeys? Snow Patrol?
Heaven forbid, Paramore?

I shudder.

Posted by: yellojkt | September 13, 2010 6:04 PM | Report abuse

Jobs a problem for you, RNM? Well, okay then!!! How about a nice whopping big jobs bill, a massive infusion of federal cash into the job market! How about a WPA-type job corp kinda thing, building infrastructure (and putting ed's kid to work) and other good stuff, kind of a well, ... "stimulus" program, if you will. $500 billion or so? That do it for you? And hey, let's raise minimum wage to get more cash into the economy.

Oh, and send all the bricklayers, dishwashers, motel maids, and landscapers back to Mexico where they came from. That would help, too, right?

Or would you like Obama to create a truckload of jobs without spending a nickel, which would be my guess where your mind runs.

Hey, I'd go for a massive jobs bill and more stimulus in a bleeding-heartbeat. Methinks thou would not. You just wanna whine and babble.

Posted by: Curmudgeon5 | September 13, 2010 6:07 PM | Report abuse

The men's singles final in Flushing Meadow has been suspended due to precipitation, making the court as dangerous as a precipitous slippery slope.

Nadal won the 1st set 6-4, the 2nd is tied at 4 all. Djokovic has much to do to rectify the situation.

I blame Obama.

Posted by: MsJS | September 13, 2010 6:27 PM | Report abuse

I can see why Vampire Weekend would appeal to the younger set. I like something harder edged, but that's just me. I think it is pretty cool that I have new albums from Disturbed and Weezer all in the same week.

And Jumper1, I must defend the deliciousity of Injera. My only complaint is that I haven't found a source of teff flour to learn how to make it myself (well, that and I don't have a pan with a 3-foot radius).

Posted by: Yoki | September 13, 2010 6:27 PM | Report abuse

Well, richno, what would YOU do if you were in Obama's position? I want to hear it.

Posted by: Jumper1 | September 13, 2010 6:36 PM | Report abuse

RichNoMore: I am curious how your guy would have fixed the unemployment problem.

A couple examples. I work for a large firm that provides broad-based engineering services. In the region I work, starting in the fall of 2008 and continuing through the middle of 2009, approximately 50% of the staff that worked providing site design/architecture/building envelope services was laid off. Why? Our customers were horribly overbuilt, and started to close branches instead of open more.

Do you think John McCain would have done something to change that?

Example 2: I grew up in a very rural area of my state. The primary job engine has been the timber/lumber industry. Over the last 25 years it has collapsed. In the last year alone, 2 of the 3 remaining pulp mills have closed, along with a large furniture manufacturing plant.

Do you think John McCain would have done something to change that?

Posted by: baldinho | September 13, 2010 6:45 PM | Report abuse

We all know the deficit is very very high. We also know it was also very high every year at the last 2/3 or so of the Bush years.

Look at this federal revenue chart.

http://www.usgovernmentrevenue.com/

It seems that in 2009 federal income tax revenue was lower than 2008 by about 400 billion dollars. It seems that in 2010 federal income tax revenue is going to be lower than in 2008 by around 300 billion dollars.

RichNoMore: do you envision actions by John McCain that would have resulted in HIGHER federal income tax revenue?

If I read this chart correctly, federal taxes have DROPPED by an average of about 1000 dollars per US citizen for the last 2 years.

RichNoMore: do you think the drop in taxes has helped or hurt the economy?

Posted by: baldinho | September 13, 2010 7:06 PM | Report abuse

CqP-it is time to firm up the cheap eats challenge.

I propose we start on Sunday, October 3rd and end after the evening meal on Sat Oct. 9. You may spend $15 per person participating in your household (defined as you wish). Things you grow, raise, harvest, hunt, trap, catch, or have given to you are free. You may figure out the pro-rata cost of items already in your pantry, say the cost of a cup of flour vs. a whole sack. However, if you buy something new you must count the entire cost, not just that portion you use. Being honorable people we assume you won't go out and buy a bunch of stuff early. Everything you eat or drink counts, but if you have a social obligation that conflicts with the cheap eats week you may suspend the challenge for that meal and make it up later. If you take advantage of a suspension you must make up the same meal. So if you choose to suspend to go out for lunch with colleagues on Wed. you will need to count lunch on Sun. following the scheduled end of the challenge. We assume each participant will prepare three meals per day, but it is not required. A daily report, with pictures and recipes, is recommended but not required. To be a full participant you are expected to post a menu with that day's food expenditures and the running total from the week.

To join just voice your intent here in the boodle any time before breakfast on Oct. 3rd. Remember the goal is to eat both well and frugally. Pictures that look like food pron are particularly appreciated.

How's that CqP?

Posted by: frostbitten1 | September 13, 2010 7:10 PM | Report abuse

frostbitten: if I beg and dumpster dive, I win? Sweet.

Posted by: baldinho | September 13, 2010 7:17 PM | Report abuse

Jobs a problem? Not for US. It's a 10,000,000,000,000 lbs Jack*ss in the voting booth and on the way to the voting booth y'all have to think about. How about that nice whopping big jobs bill, Curmudgeon5,6 et all? It was near $1,000,000,000,000, and if WE didn't see it voted in, chaos, remember? Un-employment 10%, massive business disruption, children suffering, bank failures, shrinking investment in new enterprise and JOBS? You people called it Stimulus. Where is the money, where is the absence of all those things WE would suffer without that oh, so nice 'whopping big bill'? Looks like, no IT IS, all WE got for OUR money and support was a BIG WHOPPER teller and a huge transparent Flushulus fund for the DNC, which just may not be big enough to raise your Cuckoo Bird's Boats above the polling numbers desert to keep them from pounding sand, and maybe eating some of it as well.

Posted by: RichNomore | September 13, 2010 7:19 PM | Report abuse

Raysmom, yer good fer plenny, there's no snowin' da Boodle, yanno. :-)

Speaking of a BPH, wouldn't 10/10/10 be a perfect date for one? Sunday of a holiday weekend, no less! :-)

What IS it with lightning and football games this weekend, anyway?? :-O

Posted by: Scottynuke | September 13, 2010 7:22 PM | Report abuse

Snuke -- that sounds great! Um, you mean I'm invited, right?

Posted by: ftb3 | September 13, 2010 7:26 PM | Report abuse

A couple of character actors have died:

Harold Gould (who had a doctorate in theater!):
http://voices.washingtonpost.com/postmortem/2010/09/character-actor-harold-gould-o.html?hpid=topnews

And Kevin McCarthy (the brother of critic Mary McCarthy!):
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/09/12/AR2010091202218.html

Posted by: -pj- | September 13, 2010 7:31 PM | Report abuse

Currently off-topic, but occasionally of interest in this forum:

There's not the slightest chance the opinions of the true believers will be swayed, but another study (this one comparing contemporary immunizations with varying levels of thimerosal) fails to find any correlation between immunization & autism.

http://www.businessweek.com/lifestyle/content/healthday/643005.html

Posted by: Bob-S | September 13, 2010 7:37 PM | Report abuse

Actually, I was shocked that Kevin McCarthy was as old as he was. And that he was the brother of Mary McCarthy.

Just goes to show ya, that you learn something new every day. Or that you should learn something new every day. For example, I didn't know that injera was made from teff flour, and I didn't even know what that was. So I googled it. Cool stuff.

Time to return to my other off-boodle life. Such as it is.

Posted by: ftb3 | September 13, 2010 7:39 PM | Report abuse

But of course, ftb! :-)

Posted by: Scottynuke | September 13, 2010 7:42 PM | Report abuse

I was speaking of the BPH, of course, ftb. :-)

Yes Bob, I'd heard 'bout that and you're right, it won't mean a thing to the anti-vax nutjobs... *SIGH*

Posted by: Scottynuke | September 13, 2010 7:44 PM | Report abuse

y'know, RNM, you've got your cart before your horse. You say, "if WE didn't see it voted in, chaos, remember? Un-employment 10%, massive business disruption, children suffering, bank failures, shrinking investment in new enterprise and JOBS?" All that stuff was happening beginning back in 2007 and going through 2008. The initial stimulus/bailout bill was passed under W's watch to keep the economy from sinking into a black hole. It is always very hard to prove a negative, which is why when the President talks about what might have happened, most folks just don't comprehend. Yes, things are still tough, but all the economists have said that getting out of this is going to be a long slog. This recession has been world-wide in its scope, and what happens in Europe or Asia will have a direct effect on our economy. The government, no matter the party in power, really has very little power to create jobs, absent a massive public works program similar to the WPA and CCC of the 1930's. Big tax cuts to coporations may have some effect, but at the expense of increasing the deficit, maybe more in the long run than a new stimulus package. Don't listen solely to self-appointed partisan "experts" who have thier own agenda. Give some thought to truth and consequences.

Posted by: ebtnut | September 13, 2010 7:46 PM | Report abuse

In case any of us Cuckoo Birds need any music to float our Boats ......

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FaLuUE6OHjA&feature=related

Posted by: talitha1 | September 13, 2010 7:52 PM | Report abuse

ps- ignore that if you tend to ignore richno. ;o

Posted by: talitha1 | September 13, 2010 7:58 PM | Report abuse

Obama doesn't need to replace anyone, he is exactly whom I voted for, the calm in the eye of the present hurricane. The adult in the room full of whiny 2 year olds. The wildly popular musician who understands his strengths and continues to stay faithful to the tune despite the fickleness of fame. Four years from now his fans will be turning on the radio and saying, you know what, I like him more now than I did when I first heard him.

Posted by: AverageJane | September 13, 2010 7:58 PM | Report abuse

Obama doesn't need to replace anyone, he is exactly whom I voted for, the calm in the eye of the present hurricane. The adult in the room full of whiny 2 year olds. The wildly popular musician who understands his strengths and continues to stay faithful to the tune despite the fickleness of fame. Four years from now his fans will be turning on the radio and saying, you know what, I like him more now than I did when I first heard him.

Posted by: AverageJane | September 13, 2010 7:58 PM | Report abuse

I see Yoki is awake

Posted by: bh72 | September 13, 2010 7:59 PM | Report abuse

ebtnut - "Don't listen solely to self-appointed partisan "experts" who have thier own agenda. Give some thought to truth and consequences." **I'm chuckling just a little here.**

What an extraordinary thing to ask!

Posted by: Bob-S | September 13, 2010 8:01 PM | Report abuse

Yeah, I know Bob, but I had to give it a go. I'm fully aware that most of those folks are zealots - they have their own frame of beliefs and any dissenting ideas are just apostasy.

Posted by: ebtnut | September 13, 2010 8:12 PM | Report abuse

I remember the 2000 election (you guys remember that one?). The voting was taking place soon after and right around the time that the internet stock bubble burst, taking the stock market with it.

I remember everyone pretty much knowing that a recession was gonna happen, and that jobs would be lost. That election was really close, and both sides fought like cougars to win it.

I remember thinking: sheesh, who would really want to win and have to deal with that economic mess?

Well, W became President and immediately he..... passed tax cuts and a stimulus plan. Most economists agreed that was the thing to do. I remember thinking that it really wasn't going to do much... and it didn't.

I remember the 2008 election, because similar things but only bigger happened. The economy was in much worse shape after the housing bubble burst. Obama came in and cut taxes and passed a much bigger stimulus package. Most economists agreed that was the thing to do. I remember thinking that it really wasn't going to do much..... and it didn't.

Of course, Obama's stimulus was much bigger, and involved different stuff... like giving huge sums of money to the states, so they didn't have to make massive cuts in spending. In that regard, I guess it was successful.

The issue: those states are just having to make big cuts in spending now, since their tax revenues are still down, their social spending has risen, and the stimulus money from the feds is just about done.

My early name for the stimulus was: The Putting Off Until Tomorrow What We Need To Start Doing Today Act.

I think it was accurate.

All that being said, if you think that a President McCain would have sat by and not done a similar stimulus package that would have ballooned the deficit just as high, you are a silly partisan. His stimulus would have had more tax cuts and less spending, but it would have been very similar on the aggregate.

All this GOP religion on the deficit is just silly... and they know it. They are only against it because they are out of power. When they were in power, they were all for it.

Posted by: baldinho | September 13, 2010 8:12 PM | Report abuse

Jeb jumps out of the wedding cake at some point, that's all I know.

Posted by: Jumper1 | September 13, 2010 8:32 PM | Report abuse

Yeh, bald..ho,

WE will guaran****tee you tax revenue would have been higher with a John and Sarah in the House, even with a 60% super majority in the Chamber of Horrors. Tell you something else. The less Federal Tax, the more Revenue there is every time, and who is against revenue? If that $1,000,000,000,000.00 had gone to 'main street' instead mean streets, it would have been spent and taxed and spent and taxed again and again and again at the local level and States with VAT would have been thriving, Wall Street would have needed few if any bailing wire to hold it together, and WE would be having a whole different discussion now. So let's not stand in the way of progress. Let these go'fers stop goin' for OUR wallets, let 'em go down the way they have put US down for 4 years, and let's get on with the business at hand. REAL REFORM! YES WE CAN!

Posted by: RichNomore | September 13, 2010 8:34 PM | Report abuse

What states have VAT? You know, besides the member states of the European Union? Which is not on this side of the Atlantic?

*muttering and wishing Richie would just grow up*

Say, AverageJane, do stick around. Most of us are of like mind. I'm certainly in agreement with your post (both of 'em).

Posted by: ftb3 | September 13, 2010 8:46 PM | Report abuse

I think 10/10/10 would be a great day for those that can to hold a BPH, would have been my parents 56th anniversary.

RichNoMore, do you have some stats to support the lower taxes = higher revenue?

Posted by: dmd3 | September 13, 2010 8:51 PM | Report abuse

RichNomore, you're amazing, guy. You have the ability to come in and sound like a somewhat reasonable, if sadly mistaken, person. Then you swirl off in a tsunami of chaos, completely unintelligible. Think about it, okay?

Congratulations, edbyronadams, on your newly minted computer engineer. I read yesterday that computer professionals are unemployed, but at half the rate of the general population.

I have a few suggestions--look at the non-profit sector to start--colleges, museums, you know, places that don't pay well. S/he's got to get some experience somewhere. Volunteer if necessary. (I started out with a B.S. in CompSci and an M.S. in Systems, working at a college. I learned how to do everything (not always well, but I can fake it) and although I've specialized since then, I use some of those basic skills every day). When possible, pick up some operational/ administrative skills--databases, networks, desktop, again, easier to do at a small place where there isn't great title stratification. Best of luck and hang in there.

My goal is to become like Raysmom (and others here), able to clean the whole house in 1 day. Getting there.

Off to walk the dogs and then go to bed. I have a 8 AM meeting, which sounded pretty terrible until a person who won't attend anyway called a different one, for 7 AM. Wish I were a morning person!

Posted by: -dbG- | September 13, 2010 8:54 PM | Report abuse

WE
US
OUR

Are these acronyms of a stuck caplock?
Tightly wrapped tinfoil?

We are the composite of our nation which offers due regard for us all. At least that's what I was taught and still hold as evident.

Posted by: talitha1 | September 13, 2010 8:57 PM | Report abuse

Hi, AverageJane-who-may-not-be-so-average-after-all. Please stick around.

I was unable to read what RNM replied. I assume I haven't missed anything. Guy's incoherent.

Posted by: Curmudgeon5 | September 13, 2010 9:00 PM | Report abuse

Hey RichNoMore, let's see if I can get a straight answer again.

Last year when I filed my federal returns, I received an $800 tax cut. I did so because I am married, filing jointly.

I believe every single taxpayer got a $400 break, provided they paid that much in taxes.

Did you get that tax break? Didn't everyone? Is that not a "main street" stimulus?

Here is a trickier one: it will require you to go to a linked web site.
http://www.mississippi.org/index.php?id=606

What did you call the stimulus... it is hard to understand your language... something like a DNC-slush fund to pay off its crooked donors or the like? How much of the $2.8 billion that went to Mississippi do you think will go to people that donate to the DNC?

Posted by: baldinho | September 13, 2010 9:15 PM | Report abuse

Please don't parse me at this point, dear boodlers. I'll be less confusioned and morer lesser coherantlier termurrow.

AverageJane, do stay.

dbG, the only way I know how to clean my house in one day at this point is to defenestrate ..... which may happen to someone's belongings quite soon. ;-/

Posted by: talitha1 | September 13, 2010 9:17 PM | Report abuse

Seems like the states that were the most efficient at spending the transportation "reparations" doled out by the Kenyan who wants to overthrow colonial rule were Utah, Maine, NH and Wisconsin.

http://www.deseretnews.com/article/700060518/Utah-leads-in-spending-highway-stimulus-funds.html

I bet like 99% of THOSE funds went to illegals and blacks, eh?

Posted by: baldinho | September 13, 2010 9:21 PM | Report abuse

Talitha, do open the window before you defenestrate, so you don't get cut by broken glass...

Posted by: slyness | September 13, 2010 9:25 PM | Report abuse

Just when I thought it was safe to go back in the water. Halfway down the block, walking between 2 darkish houses, 2 unfenced yards. Skunk. Emma's reaction did not bring joy to my heart. I understand they've become a problem in NYC also. Skunk summer. Worse than vampire weekend.

Slyness, how much for how many? I would like some.

Posted by: -dbG- | September 13, 2010 9:29 PM | Report abuse

For those masochistic enough to dig for them, RichNomore occasionally passes along faint wisps of something that has a passing acquaintance with facts.

It's certainly true that the housing crash was created by government intervention in the market, in the form of policies intended to increase home ownership. The mortgage interest tax deduction has led to vastly inflated prices, and it's a feedback loop that hits expensive areas the hardest. At the other end of the market, government-backed loans for first-time buyers were scrutinized less when steadily rising prices meant that under-capitalized borrowers could put off the day of reckoning by selling or refinancing. Stupid government!

And she/he/it's also on point when sheit points out that taxation (whether in the form of cash collection or criminal prosecution) does tend to inhibit the revenue flowing in any particular market. For instance, I've spent zero dollars in the marijuana market for many years, largely because of government intervention. Even if I wasn't intending to make use of the product, I've certainly known folks for whom I might have bought gifts. Pesky government.

Posted by: Bob-S | September 13, 2010 9:31 PM | Report abuse

Tell you something else, bald..ho,

The .com bubble wasn't anything, ANYTHING similar to 2008, talk about your broad-brush, simplistic thinking. In the first place (SECOND, THIRD, AND FORTH PLACE), that was private enterprise and people free to do what they wanted and needed to do to drive a new industry. The Fanny-Mac Frank n' Cheese debacle was congressional and administrative interference in a free market that produced the highest standard of housing for any populace in the history of the world, maybe the universe, but this herd of nit-wits, retread hippies, neo-capitalist pigs, along with a host of useless idiots from Clinton-Rose-Law-Firm-Land, weren't satisfied with something that works, NO!, then who would need them to promise ever more benyfits and free stuff. So what did they do? You guessed it, they screwed the whole thing up, grabbed the Goose that lays Golden Eggs, every time, around the neck, sunk it's feet in concrete, clipped it's wings, and told it to hold still while they, the geniuses of social justice, made sure there was a turkey in every condo, a chicken in every army suit, and a jerk in every congressional seat. Oh, you know the rest of the story, the best part is that Goose is not cooked yet and WE are going to take away the matches, the pot, and restore the PROSPERITY that has been stolen from US, set that Goose free, and make sure that the un-holy alliance never has enough of OUR money to pull another colossal stunt like this again.

Posted by: RichNomore | September 13, 2010 9:31 PM | Report abuse

Boodle folks, any of you work for big private corporations? For mine it is the "give a heads up as to what changes are coming for the company health care package" time of year.

I'd love there to be a discussion soon about what other folks' employers have done. Mine has done exactly what most of we employees had anticipated.

They say it has something to do with "Obamacare" but it seems to be more of a crutch.

Posted by: baldinho | September 13, 2010 9:34 PM | Report abuse

Ah.....! some do miss those faint wisps, WE are sure, Bob...S, but facts are facts whether you're low or high.

Posted by: RichNomore | September 13, 2010 9:37 PM | Report abuse

They are a dollar a pop, dbG. If you trust me to fill out the tickets for you, you can send $$ my way. It's really going to be lovely; blue squares with a blue flower spray on white. It's a king, too.

Posted by: slyness | September 13, 2010 9:41 PM | Report abuse

Sigh. Richnomore, still unintelligible.

Posted by: -dbG- | September 13, 2010 9:42 PM | Report abuse

I'm a local government retiree, baldinho, but we're staring at about a 9 percent premium increase. The fun part is that they also keep increasing the portion of the premium we have to pay, in addition to increasing the base itself.

Posted by: slyness | September 13, 2010 9:48 PM | Report abuse

I work for a very small non-profit private corporation, and they haven't dropped the news yet (they're still finalizing next year's budget) but it's a virtual certainty that our very generous plan (for which we currently contribute *nothing* if we have no additional family members on the plan) will go up in price, and have higher minimum co-pay amounts.

I don't object at all, because it has been under-priced. I do have a philosophical objection to the fact that I (who have been the beneficiary of no outlays from any insurance plan for decades) will receive no consideration of that fact. But hey, if it wasn't for lucky folks like me, the rest of you would have to pay even more. Thank me, and I'll consider it even.

Besides, I think I deeply cracked a tooth last Friday. If I'm right, my first insurance claim may be a doozy!

Posted by: Bob-S | September 13, 2010 9:56 PM | Report abuse

Will send money, slyness. Hang onto the tickets for me too, iydm. I trust you.

Baldinho, left one last year for non-profitville.

Frosti, will think about the challenge. Hope you're feeling well.

Gn.

Posted by: -dbG- | September 13, 2010 10:08 PM | Report abuse

slyness, I had my windows replaced with sugarglass years ago. ;) Prismatic and refractive, they filter light when needed or I can raise their sashes for fresh air and honest sunshine at will.

Posted by: talitha1 | September 13, 2010 10:08 PM | Report abuse

Heckuva tennis match tonight.

My very large corporation, from which I was laid off but still gratefully receive affordable health care from, is telling us that premiums are going to rise. They're blaming it on Obamacare, because as I suspected, it's one of those "gold-plated" plans, or whatever they call them. I just hope the monthly premium doesn't go up too much.

I still LOVE Obama.

Posted by: seasea1 | September 13, 2010 10:09 PM | Report abuse

This particular Vampire Weekend music video features a redhead playing tennis.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bccKotFwzoY&feature=channel

Just mentioning it as a public service.

Posted by: yellojkt | September 13, 2010 10:10 PM | Report abuse

My dad e-mailed this online game to me:

-----begin message-------

Air Force Test

This will drive you nuts!! Have fun!

The object of the game is to move the red block around without getting hit by the blue blocks or touching the black walls.

If you can go longer than 18 seconds you are phenomenal. It's been said that the US Air Force uses this for fighter pilots. They are expected to go for at least 2 minutes.

Give it a try but be careful...it is addictive (or forward it to someone you want to frustrate)!!

http://members.iinet.net.au/~pontipak/redsquare.html

-------end message------------

As a retired fighter pilot, here was his reaction:

///I'm only up to 13 seconds. Anyone who makes 2 minutes, let me know.///

My record is about six seconds.

Posted by: yellojkt | September 13, 2010 10:16 PM | Report abuse

Oh, dbG - that's just not fair .....

Posted by: talitha1 | September 13, 2010 10:16 PM | Report abuse

I stopped when I reached 5.5 seconds - I do believe that is my limit.

Posted by: dmd3 | September 13, 2010 10:31 PM | Report abuse

Mr. F opted not to take the federal employee health insurance because it was 10X more expensive than his military retiree family insurance. The small nonprofit where I work part time has set a broad goal of providing insurance for employees at some point in the future. Future being defined as sometime in our youngest board member's lifetime (she's 22). As I say at every board meeting, sometimes it's important to have perseverance even in the absence of hope.

Posted by: frostbitten1 | September 13, 2010 10:33 PM | Report abuse

Joel,
You should have told me that you were up in Columbia. We could have hung out. There is a great new English pub right between Merriweather and The Mall (In Columbia). Just far enough from the pavilion to not have to hear the screaming teenagers, but close enough so they can walk over after the show. Parking can be a bit dicey on concert days though.

I've told my wife to avoid The Mall for the next two Saturdays because it is the Virgin Free Festival (non-free tickets may still be available, the free ones are long gone) and HFStival Redux respectively.

That Hold Steady show sure is tempting but early October is a scheduling train wreck. We have Homecoming in The ATL on the 9th (which is also going to make a tin-tin BPH tough) and my son is marching at the Wake game on the 2nd. This working for a living thing sure is getting in the way of my social life.

Posted by: yellojkt | September 13, 2010 10:36 PM | Report abuse

But slyness and seasea, them upper management people at the health insurance companies have to pay for and fuel up their private jets, don't they? We (the people) shall not begrudge them, right? After all, that's the "free" market system where all the big bucks go to them and the cost is socialized (yep, I said that word) among the rest of us.

Ah, free market capitalism ... gotta love it.

*less than a year to my well earned socialized medicine*

Posted by: ftb3 | September 13, 2010 10:41 PM | Report abuse

9.287 but I'm not sure improvement is worth the risk of addiction

Posted by: frostbitten1 | September 13, 2010 10:42 PM | Report abuse

And of course, the "health care crisis" is at least partly traceable to government intervention that's had widespread and not-always-desirable consequences.

The fact that employer-provided insurance costs can be written off as expenses by the business, but don't have to claimed as income by the employee, means that one bird in the insurance bush is worth more than one bird in the salary hand.

This leads to interesting developments in all kinds of areas. Highly-paid employees (who presumably could most afford to pay out-of-pocket for highly-inclusive health benefit plans) are the folks least likely to have remuneration packages that don't include health benefits paid for largely by their employers. And since most health-care providers (dentists, home-care nurses and plastic surgeons excepted, they still do a lot of cash business) are not paid directly by their customers, the value-for-money advantages of a rational market are severely warped.

Speaking of government intervention, why hasn't anyone gotten any traction with addressing that housing market/interest deduction in a gradual way? Why not introduce a very gradual reduction in the percentage of the deductible interest? Right now the interest on a primary residence is 100% deductible, right? Why not reduce that by 1% per year? Presumably, by the time most currently-contracted mortgages were paid off, the vast majority of the interest would still have been deductible. And virtually all current mortgage-holders (with the probable exception of Curmudgeon) would be dead before the deduction evaporated entirely. This is probably exactly the right time to adopt this policy, since a lot of the (illusory) fat has already been trimmed from property values. Let's do something to stop the bubble from re-inflating too quickly.

Posted by: Bob-S | September 13, 2010 10:48 PM | Report abuse

After spending all evening watching pretentious teeny-pop videos, I finally figured it out:

Vampire Weekend = No Doubt x Jonas Brothers - The Specials

Posted by: yellojkt | September 13, 2010 10:49 PM | Report abuse

"Boodle folks, any of you work for big private corporations? ..... I'd love there to be a discussion soon about what other folks'employers have done."

Okay, here ya go, baldinho, m'dear .....

Self-employed artisan (with contract and related jobs on the side) for over 30 years. Never a pension and never an employer-financed health plan. I either paid for it myself or did without. Small savings, some good investments that lost money but didn't die over the last five years.

I choose to live "on the edge" (as others might call it) but I've never wanted for a thing that I couldn't provide for or live without. I trust my "provisions and preparations" for the future will sustain me. I'll do my best not to be a burden on my son or on society. And if all he!! breaks loose I'll be able to join up with those who know how to build a fire and barter for a tomato or a shawl.

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x1tn79_bruce-hornsby-the-way-it-is_music

Posted by: talitha1 | September 13, 2010 10:50 PM | Report abuse

An excellent proposition re: mortgage interest deductions Bob-S.

Posted by: frostbitten1 | September 13, 2010 10:51 PM | Report abuse

Dumbest. Column. Ever.

Posted by: cambridge-persisitence | September 13, 2010 10:51 PM | Report abuse

I blame it on Garfield.

Posted by: talitha1 | September 13, 2010 10:55 PM | Report abuse

Richnomore seems to use the royal 'WE' a little more than is seemly. Unless of course, he/she is royal, beyond the p.i.t.a. kind of royal.

Funny how some think it is their fortune and hard work to become rich and everyone else's fault when they are rich no more.

And I am completely, abjectly sorry about Justin Bieber. I was certain Celine Dion was enough to foist upon any nation, but nooooooo...

Posted by: --dr-- | September 13, 2010 11:00 PM | Report abuse

BTW, Rafa won the US Open. The WaPo has the headline correct, but the pics show Djokovic only, and the link to the article goes nowhere. Sigh.
http://www.usopen.org/en_US/news/match_reports/2010-09-13/201009131284431114790.html

Posted by: seasea1 | September 13, 2010 11:07 PM | Report abuse

baldinho, thanks for the facts and numbers and the "putting off until tomorrow" title. From my position at a state university, I am relieved that stimulus funds allowed putting off until tomorrow. It gave the institution time to put a retirement incentive in place to save salaries without firings, and to go through an organized campus-wide process of looking for efficiencies. Next year without the stimulus funds will be hard, but we're a whole lot better prepared for it than we would have been a couple years earlier. I can vouch for saved jobs here, and I'm grateful to be able to.

Posted by: -bia- | September 13, 2010 11:07 PM | Report abuse

dr,
Just another in a long list of musical crimes you Haute Mainers have been inflicting on us Yanks for decades. My mother in her trip the Maritimes visited the Anne Murray Museum in Springhill, NS. The horror.

I do have one very embarrassing confession. I tried to talk my wife into the Paramore concert at MPP just because Tegan and Sara were the opening act. More rational heads prevailed.

Posted by: yellojkt | September 13, 2010 11:07 PM | Report abuse

Thank you dr, although I have publicly stated I will no longer apologize for Justin B, I was very tempted last evening while watching the VMA's with my girls.

So sad that all our good music does not make it out of the country.

I will say though, that if all those in the states buying Celine and Beiber albums would cease those two might just fade away.

Posted by: dmd3 | September 13, 2010 11:13 PM | Report abuse

Is this the same redhead as in the other Vampire Weekend video?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9wHl9qRsMzw&feature=related

A lot more vampirey. And more weekendy too.

Posted by: yellojkt | September 13, 2010 11:14 PM | Report abuse

yello - Can't imagine why, but at first I read "pretentious teeny-pop videos" as "prestigious teeny-pop videos".

I'll leave it to you to imagine the questions that ran through my mind.

Posted by: Bob-S | September 13, 2010 11:17 PM | Report abuse

dbG-I do hope you'll join in the challenge. It was a lot of fun last year. I'm doing pretty well, thanks, but the drugs might have a little something to do with that.

Speaking of which, it's time to take some so I should be asleep by the time Colbert ends.

Toodles boodle and sweet dreams!

Posted by: frostbitten1 | September 13, 2010 11:23 PM | Report abuse

My last link of the night, I promise.

http://www.newsweek.com/2010/09/13/back-story-think-of-the-miners.html

It's pretty sobering.

Posted by: yellojkt | September 13, 2010 11:29 PM | Report abuse

as i voted in 2008, my hope was that if Mr. Obama was elected, that he could keep the economy stable enough to avoid a catastrophic collapse. i feel like this has been done. The mechanisms that caused the housing collapse and the nearly catastrophic collapse of the financial markets were functioning for about 10 years before the economy tanked. even the smartest economists didn't know how to devise a plan to counter the damage done during that time. prior to the economic collapse of 2008, all of the stuff transpired that jumper mentioned in his 12.46 post. it is fantastic in every sense of the word that the GOP is poised to make the gains nearly every kind of political race known to man. even after the GOP policies from y2k to 2008 nearly drove our country collectively into the ditch. if the President happens to run again, i'm still going to vote for him.

Posted by: -jack- | September 13, 2010 11:39 PM | Report abuse

Is it too late to jump into that "I like Obama" booth? I especially want in if we'll be ordering drinks and appetizers. I'm generally in favor of things that come with dipping sauce.

I can't say I'm thrilled with everything this President has done. He's made some truly boneheaded political mistakes, run at times what seemed to be an amateurish organization, and been caught out doing both. That said, I raised money and voted for the man and don't feel I have reason to regret either decision.

The most troubling aspect of political discourse that I've been noticing lately is that when two people disagree about an issue they also disagree (and often most violently) about the legitimacy of the other person's sources. There's no common ground for a discussion because no one can agree on any set of facts. That's a problem I don't have a solution for. It's also a problem that's going to worsen over time with the continued fragmentation of major media.


dmd3: you had Stan Rogers once upon a time and I'm still grateful to Canada for that voice. It's been probably 25 years since he died and I still listen to his music with great enjoyment. I honestly didn't realize Justin Bieber was Canadian but with these porous borders who's really at fault?

Posted by: cowhand214 | September 13, 2010 11:40 PM | Report abuse

As a middle-aged fan of Vampire Weekend, I think that you clearly underestimate their growing global appeal.

I also think that Obama is doing a good job - how quickly this country forgets how bad things really were when he took office. It's not perfect now, but the alternative of a tax-cut-driven deficit under Republican rule would have done even less to help the recovery and left us with the same indebtedness.

A year ago, I saw Vampire Weekend in a 100 person honkey-tonk bar in eastern California and at the end of the month, I will see them headlining the Hollywood Bowl. In 2 years, I predict that they will be playing even bigger venues and that Obama will be re-elected President.

Posted by: chuckwiley | September 13, 2010 11:47 PM | Report abuse

Here's a pretty good summary of the Florida Senate campaign, from the cartoonist for the Ft. Lauderdale Sun-Sentinel.
http://blogs.trb.com/news/opinion/chanlowe/blog/2010/09/chan_lowe_charlie_crist_indepe.html

Posted by: DaveoftheCoonties | September 14, 2010 12:05 AM | Report abuse

About that "avoid the blocks" reaction game: I know that it seems like the same pattern for at least the first few seconds each time, and therefore assume that it's probably repeating the entire pattern every time. I definitely don't possess the ability to consciously remember the pattern, but on my twentieth (or so) attempt, I went just over fifty seconds. Given that learning curve, I'll assume that eventually I could do it for over two minutes, just like Pac-Man players could eventually keep at it for hours.

Are you telling me that there are humans who could do this for over two minutes without previous exposure to the same pattern? I definitely felt that I was getting better at intuitively (as the air traffic controllers would say) "keeping the picture" of the movements of the blocks, but that may well be an illusion fostered by the fact that they were repeating a pattern I'd seen repeatedly.

Posted by: Bob-S | September 14, 2010 12:17 AM | Report abuse

Mr. Obama will be addressing the collective national student body this week. we received an e-mail stating that any student that chooses not to watch the speech, or, whose parents object to their child watching the speech, should report to a common place where the speech is not broadcast. i don't recall any other time in my life when listening to a Presidential speech has been presented as an option, and it has happened twice on the occasion of this address. i'm shaking my head in wonder as i type. the same address last year, imo, was profound.

Posted by: -jack- | September 14, 2010 12:22 AM | Report abuse

Mmmm, jack, wasn't Mr. Obama's address to students nationwide last year also met with opposition from "them who thunk" he was propogandizing their children with commie-edu-think? *holding steam coming from ears to a soft mist*.

Posted by: talitha1 | September 14, 2010 12:36 AM | Report abuse

cowhand - You've beautifully pointed out a horrible, awful problem.

I'm easing into my fourth decade of political awareness, and for the first time I find that I regularly run across folks with whom I have great difficulty finding a common basis for framing political discussions, let alone attempting to build compromise. In most of the years between 1980-2000, even the folks with whom I vehemently disagreed about means and intended outcomes were able to stipulate baseline facts that we all trusted.

It's maddening, because I truly wish to accomplish something meaningful for everybody involved. Shifting sands are difficult to build upon.

Posted by: Bob-S | September 14, 2010 12:37 AM | Report abuse

jack,
NYT has a review/summary of "The Backlash" by Will Bunch, which gets into the Tea Party, fact-free TV "news" and such.

The Post reports that the Attorney General of Virginia has said that George III had more regard for Virginians' liberties than today's Democrats. Does that sound like a call to civil war?

One of the Boodle regulars noted lately that around 1968, there was a realization that calling for violence is a serious matter.

Posted by: DaveoftheCoonties | September 14, 2010 12:37 AM | Report abuse

scc: propaganda, but I guess if I'm gonna make an improper gerund I might as well misspell the noun while I'm at it.

Posted by: talitha1 | September 14, 2010 12:42 AM | Report abuse

Well of course G-III respected Virginians liberties for a while. Virginians (living in a warm climate) drank their tea iced, which dilutes it, meaning they weren't so burdened by that tax. And living in such a humid climate dissuaded them from taking up philately 'cuz the stamps got all stuck together, so the Stamp Act was no big deal.

It was that Declaratory Act of 1766 which really got Pat Henry all het up, even in the absence of any immediate consequences. And ole Georgie Boy quickly stopped being so regardful of Virginians' liberties shortly after the tobacco farmers started feeling (and vocally resenting) that they were the only folks willingly footing the bill for the upkeep of our British "protectors".

Posted by: Bob-S | September 14, 2010 1:22 AM | Report abuse

Well, it's going to be an interesting year, football-wise. Three of the eight presumptive division leaders were upset on opening weekend.

'Night, Boodle. Night, Yoki.

Posted by: Curmudgeon5 | September 14, 2010 1:29 AM | Report abuse

Speaking of propaganda - Since it's shorthand for a Latin term, should one short politically-slanted phrase be a "propagandum"?

Because I'm pretty sure that if you just toss one small paper slip (or one small sugar-coated bonbon) at someone, that's a confetto.

Posted by: Bob-S | September 14, 2010 1:33 AM | Report abuse

Well, I can't let this opportunity pass...

'Night, Boodle. Night, Yoki.

Posted by: Bob-S | September 14, 2010 1:38 AM | Report abuse

"Marxist Tyrant Urges Youth to Overthrow Existing Order!"

http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2010/09/13/remarks-president-barack-obama-prepared-delivery-back-school-speech

Posted by: Bob-S | September 14, 2010 2:06 AM | Report abuse

God loves us so much more than we can imagine through Him that died for all, Jesus Christ.

Morning, friends. Just wanted to check in as one among the living. Have a lot to do today, so starting early. I have not read all the comments, but with the "R" guy here, I'm sure they're pretty testy. But I believe you guys can hold your own.

Please have a lovely day, folks, and much love to all.

The after-school program at the church starts today. Your prayers and good thoughts would go a long way, and would be greatly appreciated.

Slyness, defintely sweater weather this morning, but promising to be in the 90's later. So I guess I'll wear removable stuff.

Posted by: cmyth4u | September 14, 2010 5:21 AM | Report abuse

I was a bit of a libertarian in high school (I know, whoda thunk?) and while a non-voting part of the Reagan Revolution I was contrarianly anti-Nancy Reagan with her ridiculous sitting-on-the-lap-of-Mr-T "just say no" policy. I took up a collection to buy the White House a nice set of Chinette plates in lieu of the her campaign contributor funded replacement of the White House China, which seemed to be quite a contretemps of the time, equal perhaps in Sturm and Drang to Obama turning the Oval Office into a Homewood Suites lobby (a decor I am unfortunately too familiar with at the moment).

I don't remember ever being addressed by the president on school grounds in any media. But I doubt that film strips or purple mimeograph paper would have been particularly good platforms for any of the presidents in office when I was a kid. I just can't imagine being particularly roused into a patriotic frenzy by a Whip Inflation Now message on the back of the Weekly Reader.

Posted by: yellojkt | September 14, 2010 5:43 AM | Report abuse

Here is a good uplifting message:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FY3V4ObYRsA

Particularly for us incipient geezers.

Posted by: yellojkt | September 14, 2010 6:05 AM | Report abuse

Bob-S,
That Obama speech is just short of a full blown Two Minute Hate. It reads even better if you have The Internationale playing in the background. Obama says "life is precious, and part of its beauty lies in its diversity." That is NOT a message I want any teabagging spawn to have to be exposed to. Some of us glory in the lack of life's diversity.

Posted by: yellojkt | September 14, 2010 6:11 AM | Report abuse

cowhand, it was the internet what did it. And yes Stan Rogers.. much missed. There are 2 kinds of music. One is the canned hyped advertised prepackaged variety and one is true. His was true.

Cassandra, a prayer for you and the kids. May morning bring blessings and good things.

Posted by: --dr-- | September 14, 2010 7:30 AM | Report abuse

Good morning, all. Yes, Cassandra, it was practically chilly when Mr. T and I went out at 0-dark 6 ayem to walk. I almost went back and got a jacket!

My mammogram appointment is this morning. Getting the girls squeezed flat isn't one of my favorite activities, but it beats teeth cleaning...

The difference in perceived facts is troubling. My brother moved to South Carolina and became a rabid Republican. He and I just can't even be civil in discussing healthcare. This is a guy who works in IT project management and pays out the wazoo for insurance, and whose undergraduate education was completely funded by VA, and by extension, US taxpayers. The disconnect amazes me.

Posted by: slyness | September 14, 2010 8:13 AM | Report abuse

I would think Bermuda is watching EYE-gor particularly closely at this point. The 5-day predicted track is basically centered on the island. :-O

And yes, 'twas quite nice to see the Ravens ruin the Jets home opener. Particularly because they kept me above .500 in pigskin prognostication for the season. (Well done, ladies!)

*plunging-headlong-into-another-terribly-exciting-(it's-not-THAT-terrible)-workday Grover waves* :-)

Posted by: Scottynuke | September 14, 2010 8:17 AM | Report abuse

My sympathies Slyness; I had that procedure last Saturday. I don't know if the equipment used makes it more painful or if I'm just becoming a wuss but I'd rather have my teeth cleaned.

Sun's out here and it's warmer than yesterday. Strong t-storms north of here last night with hail about 1 inch or more. "S" forwarded to me pics taken by someone at his office.

Another busy day at work is ahead. My legs are starting to protest less. Voting in the primary here after work, as an unenrolled voter I can choose either ballot, I'll take the Dems and try to sort them out properly.

Posted by: badsneakers | September 14, 2010 8:41 AM | Report abuse

yellojkt,

I know that you are writing in jest, but I was going to say that there is full-blown hate being released out there, both hate of minorities and hate of the poor and hate of religiosity to which we are not akin.

What I thought were two layers of the republican-ee type of people are now hitting four. There is a subset of the traditional, in power, republicans who are becoming sickened by the spectacle of this hate being festered for political gain and they are coming out. Then, there is a second group that is being quiet for their "own good," but probably disagreeing with it, and then there are the opportunists who are playing the music such as Gingrich. And, finally, the crazies who are buying all this, both the leaders of the wing and the millions of followers.

While this all gets tangled up in many other issues, the dynamics of the "politicing" and watching folks hedge are both so amazing.

Above all, seeing the Senate pander to McCain to hold off Don't Ask Don't Tell actions until after the Senate Primary in his home state so that he can actually grudgingly be a man of principle when it doesn't affect his re-election is pathetic.

McCain, over the past five or so years, has been part of 3 of the 4 groups of the current republican establishment.

I am thinking that over the course of the next 50 days, we might hear from more people in the first group--the republicans who can't stay quiet any longer and speak out against the hate. The other three groups are partaking in a story line that is endangering our troops already in harms way.

There was a sense on that metro train on the morning of the Beckie rally at the Washington Monument that was palpable. You could feel it. Those guys were nothing but big deal nervous chatter. The joke was that some of them had never seen so many people in one place. (on the metro train). They seemed to feel that they were part of some sort of revolution.

Look at Paladino in NY and you see someone who may actually win his party's primary who is clearly out front with his racial hate and general dislike. He defends it by saying that he is in the "construction industry."

The republicans are moving quickly from the party of "NO" to the party of "HATE."

I apologize to the boodle for saying much more than I originally intended.

Posted by: russianthistle | September 14, 2010 8:42 AM | Report abuse

Weed, don't apologize for stating the truth! I just hope you're right about the more 'mainstream' repubs speaking out.

Posted by: badsneakers | September 14, 2010 8:52 AM | Report abuse

Dan Balz's riveting, insightful election story this morning: "How the primaries will affect Nov. elections."

Uh, well the winners of the primaries will still be running, and the losers won't, except the few who may decide to do write-ins. Hey, you heard it here first.

Posted by: curmudgeon6 | September 14, 2010 9:07 AM | Report abuse

Best to the "girls" slyness. I still have to make my own appointment.

Weed, I think you're right, and I'm hoping those few (and we know they are *few*) who lunch at their country clubs will do the right thing and vote against the crazies in their party. I will not, however, hold my breath.

Gotta go and vote today after my 10 o'clock conference call. I'll be surprised if the turnout is big.

Cya later.

Posted by: ftb3 | September 14, 2010 9:12 AM | Report abuse

Yello, that's one addictive game. I'm to 7.odd seconds, and expect I'll go a little higher before I hit my wall. It helped to realize that the trick is not to move quickly, but to not move quickly.

Posted by: Ivansmom | September 14, 2010 9:13 AM | Report abuse

Foreign Policy has a Pakistani take on "The Talibanization of America."

Friday and Saturday look to be the days for the IG-or swell. Should be impressive in New Jersey and Long Island, where Long Beach (just east of Kennedy Airport) had the perfect Earl waves.

Posted by: DaveoftheCoonties | September 14, 2010 9:32 AM | Report abuse

Slightly on-Kit: The Atlantic (online, anyway) has a nice little piece about how Oklahoma City has weathered the economic downturn fairly well and is experiencing some growth. Our unemployment rate is 6.7%, which ain't bad in comparison. The big reason: we missed most of the housing bubble. Housing costs are still reasonable here, and it is possible to afford a house. Back in the late '70s and early '80s Penn Square Bank rode the early wave of an oil and gas bubble and ended up collapsing both banking and oil & gas. The surviving bankers are more cautious than most, and the politicians learned that a single-focus economy is not a good thing.

Posted by: Ivansmom | September 14, 2010 9:41 AM | Report abuse

...sneak...
That's what the country needs, more compromised un-Democans, known in the Wright-Wing as Republicrats. Sorry, not! Two out is worth ten in the closet.

Posted by: RichNomore | September 14, 2010 9:43 AM | Report abuse

My employer is moving towards two options, nationwide. One will be a very pricey HMO (which is unavailable where I work). The other will be a no-frills plan based on health savings accounts.

They added the HSA plan last year, and we all saw the writing on the wall. They dropped the middling EPO (local managed plans) this year.

Posted by: baldinho | September 14, 2010 9:48 AM | Report abuse

Hmmmmm. I'm multilingual and a linguaphile, to boot, and for the life of me, Richie is writing in a language that I don't recognize.

Still uncomprehensible, Richie. *If* you really want to capture our attention in a meaningful way, I suggest that you lay out your case in a meaningful way; that is, support your arguments with facts, and if possible, the law as it currently exists (i.e., not as you would like it to exist).

Otherwise, we will ignore you, because life's too short to waste time on you. If you really, really need attention, go to another site.

Posted by: ftb3 | September 14, 2010 9:54 AM | Report abuse

Good morning, y'all.

Apple bran muffins today, made from just-picked Jonathans. Plus the usual coffee and
OJ.

Campaign season is in full swing *stifled groan*. I saw my local Congresswoman at a farmers' market over the weekend. It was 75 degrees and she was dressed in a winter-weight wool suit chatting earnestly with constituents. She kept looking in my direction, and I decided to move along on the off chance she was considering a photo op with a wheelie. I'm glad she was out though, given she's a shoo-in for reelection.

Posted by: MsJS | September 14, 2010 10:00 AM | Report abuse

We are indeed in the silly season, MsJS -- we've had two local candidates personally knock on the NukeAbode door the past couple of weekends. That has a much greater impact than having a couple of 20-something campaign workers blather on about how great their candidate is.

Posted by: Scottynuke | September 14, 2010 10:16 AM | Report abuse

Snuke, I suspect a lack of campaign funds/organization might be playing a role in the personal house calls. Haven't seen that around here. Yet.

The oddest I've seen so far is a young man in front of our Post Office with a card table and two folding chairs. The table is adorned with the oft-seen Obama-as-Hitler photo. I hear phrases like "capitalist imperialism" coming from his mouth as I roll by.

Gotta hand it to him, he's taken a lot of insults but is still out there.

Posted by: MsJS | September 14, 2010 10:27 AM | Report abuse

13 seconds so far. If I had any manual dexterity at all this would be much easier. Bob S is right about the patterns.

Posted by: Ivansmom | September 14, 2010 10:31 AM | Report abuse

Our version of that was a woman occupying the "breakdown lane" of a traffic circle in a town center, with a huge "Impeach Obama" sign on top of her car.

Heckuva way to waste what was a delightful sunny day, but ain't the First Amendment wunnerful? I didn't even stop to ensure she was using sunblock. Irresponsible of me, I know.

Posted by: Scottynuke | September 14, 2010 10:31 AM | Report abuse

Good morning boodle! The best part about this campaign season is that I'm not running, and my constituents know that if written in I will not serve. I have always said being mayor of Our Fair City should not be a life sentence. More people would be willing to do it if they thought a couple 2 year terms would be enough. In my second term we've been able to replace all the failing culverts on our roads, received a federal grant to renovate aging housing stock (loans to homeowners that are forgiven if they remain in the home 10 years), instituted a Small Business Revolving loan program (max of 3% interest to businesses within our city limits)and hand off the city youth/recreation program to a non-profit that provides better services at no cost to the city. Crime is down, incomes are up-and it's all Obama's fault. We're also having fantastic fall leaf color this year, but he might not have anything to do with that. I believe it's a Canadian import.

Posted by: frostbitten1 | September 14, 2010 10:37 AM | Report abuse

You don't have to be much of a football fan, or much of a teeny-bop pop fan, to appreciate this line from Tracee Hamilton's enjoyable article about Clinton Portis of the Redskins:

"Instead, what we saw was a running game that struggled to find its footing but a running back who hurled himself at blitzing defenders like tweens throw themselves at Justin Bieber."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/09/13/AR2010091305741.html

Posted by: bobsewell | September 14, 2010 10:40 AM | Report abuse

Frostbitten, I was very impressed with your list of achievements, but I have to disagree with the issue of beautiful leave-coloring. This is, after all, a sign of decay and decline, a foreboding of nasty and cold weather, and I am sure this is all Obama's fault.

Posted by: gmbka | September 14, 2010 10:50 AM | Report abuse

Including Bieber (in any shape or form) as part of a football article is grounds for severe punishment...

Such as having Bieber playing in a continual loop in headphones duct-taped to one's head.

BLEAH!!! :-O

Posted by: Scottynuke | September 14, 2010 10:52 AM | Report abuse

Sounds like the Frosti administration will be remembered fondly.

Posted by: bobsewell | September 14, 2010 10:55 AM | Report abuse

Well, frosti, if you *were* running *I'd* vote for you (early and often, 'cuz you're close enough to Chicago to make that work for you). You've done a good job, m'dear. Yay for frosti!!!

Posted by: ftb3 | September 14, 2010 10:56 AM | Report abuse

Awe shucks, I didn't mean to break my arm patting myself on the back. Seriously, Obama has been good for cities-and that's cities of all sizes, even pop. 97.

gmbka-nasty cold weather is Canada's number one import to northern Minnesota.

Posted by: frostbitten1 | September 14, 2010 11:03 AM | Report abuse

In 1950 when Truman came to Redding, CA to dedicate Shasta Dam we were taken from our high school class rooms and force marched to the new junior college stadium to hear him give a speech. Opting out was not an option.

Posted by: bh72 | September 14, 2010 11:13 AM | Report abuse

frosti, you wanna run for the Senate in, oh, Nevada or Alaska? I'd send you illegal campaign contributions in a heartbeat. And I think the mayoraltude of Wasila might be open, and you've got prior experience!! (Plus, you tend to fill out your term of office, too!! What a bonus!!)

If you have experience field-dressing large Artiodactylae in the suborder Ruminantia, well, I won't hold it against you. (Machine-gunning them from your Huey doesn't count).

Posted by: curmudgeon6 | September 14, 2010 11:14 AM | Report abuse

Aw c'mon 'Mudge, you know frosti wouldn't bother with a machine gun...

She's very deft with copter blades. Gives a new meaning to "field-dressing," no?

:-)

Posted by: Scottynuke | September 14, 2010 11:18 AM | Report abuse

Here's what I don't get about gun nuts. How is using a machine gun macho or cool? It's really the lazy person's way. Since I went to college so I wouldn't have to hunt or gather to eat I haven't done any hunting, but if I were going to hunt, motorized transportation and mondo firearms would not be used. Now, at Dangerous Camp we will use plenty of firearms and blow lots of stuff up-but there will be no stupid picture taking. What happens at Dangerous Camp...you know the rest.

Posted by: frostbitten1 | September 14, 2010 11:30 AM | Report abuse

I'm not quite sure what to make of this headline: "Speed-hump fight ends in death."

Wam, bam, thank you, ma-- BANG!

In my neck of the woods, we call them speed BUMPS with a B, not humps with an H.

Of course, the deck includes the usual lack-of-copy-editor goof: "Driver upset with speed hump is accused of killing man who tried to slowdown traffic near his home." Normally, "slow down" as a verb is two words.

Wiki has this to say about the hump v. bump thing: "A speed bump (in British English a speed hump, road hump, speed breaker, sleeping policeman, or slow child; in New Zealand English a judder bar, in Hiberno-English a ramp)..."

Hiberno-English?

Be that as it may, I betcha yer asking yourself, say, Mudge, just when was the speed hump invented, an yway? And were you there? Wiki sez:

"On June 7, 1906, The New York Times reported on an early implementation of what might be considered speed bumps in the U.S. town of Chatham, New Jersey, which planned to raise its crosswalks five inches above the road level: "This scheme of stopping automobile speeding has been discussed by different municipalities, but Chatham is the first place to put it in practice". The average automobile's top speed at the time was around 30 mph."

No, I had recently left San Francisco after the earthquake, and was in Scotland and France covering the launching of the Lusitania and the Dreyfus trial (not guilty).

Posted by: curmudgeon6 | September 14, 2010 11:30 AM | Report abuse

Frosti! Let's get going on the fair-cheat codes for the levels of the OctoberDelishCheapieEatorama

Assignments!

Jumper, give details on the brining beans process so that that we eat soft fruits of the vines; all bean types? Have you ever cooked canneloni beans from dry to wet? I make a mean white chili from these softies...

Yello, what rice brands might we buy that remain delish but at the best price; and yes, I will drive to HoCo to split a bag with you

I am promoting the Sullivan Street bread to keep CPBOY full Even with King Arthur Flour the loaf is under one buck.

And eggs at Aldi will be a centerpiece of my plan.

I plan on stealing hot peppers from RD's garden; TBG and I will make two or three raids.

Some of those peppers will land into watermelon soup...lovely recipe that I can share for the last of summer's bounty.

RT will have tons of ideas as will Yoki (tonnes, right? In Canadia?)

And, DBG's stash of rhubarb means I am ahead since this was a gift...

Posted by: CollegeQuaParkian1 | September 14, 2010 11:31 AM | Report abuse

Mudge-don't forget my extensive international experience, and by comparison to Ms. Palin's my alma mater is downright elite (with an illustrious hockey tradition). That I haven't gone beyond a Senate run and broken into the punditry ranks is a complete mystery. Perhaps I should reconsider my policy of thinking before speaking.

Posted by: frostbitten1 | September 14, 2010 11:37 AM | Report abuse

Speaking of ancient history, if any of you happen to be wondering what it was like to walk down the halls of the English insane asylum known as Bedlam (the Bethlehem Royal Hospital, in Bromley, London) back in the day, just go read some of the comments under E. J. Dionne's piece about the Tea Party. (Our guy rashomon is one of the commenters, a lone voice of sanity wandering down a lonely corridor past cells filled with strait-jacketed, spittle-flaying psychotics.)

According to the Celebritology column, John Mayer has quit Twitter. You cannot imagine my desolation. O WILL THE PAIN NEVER END?????

Posted by: curmudgeon6 | September 14, 2010 11:50 AM | Report abuse

I would argue that the exact same forces caused the internet stock bubble as caused the housing bubble.

I don't think that is really up for debate?

The idea that one was entirely caused by free markets and private enterprise and the other was caused by silly governmental meddling is just plain laughable.

Posted by: baldinho | September 14, 2010 12:09 PM | Report abuse

For all the talk of Stan Rogers, his brother & bandmate Garnet is still around and touring quite regularly. I try to see him when he comes through town.

Posted by: HeadFool1 | September 14, 2010 12:10 PM | Report abuse

My nuance-detector has failed. "[...] government-backed loans for first-time buyers were scrutinized less when steadily rising prices meant that under-capitalized borrowers could put off the day of reckoning by selling or refinancing."

Posted by: Jumper1 | September 14, 2010 12:10 PM | Report abuse

HI headfool!
16.7 seconds.

Posted by: Ivansmom | September 14, 2010 12:13 PM | Report abuse

Frostbitten,
One must eat before speaking. It is difficult to burp on an empty stomach :)

Posted by: Braguine | September 14, 2010 12:20 PM | Report abuse

http://www.salon.com/news/opinion/glenn_greenwald/radio/2010/09/14/feingold/index.html

Greenwald interviews Feingold. Most emphasis on the Senator's resistance to Patriot Act. I remember, however, Feingold's "no" vote on the Gramm-Leach-Bliley_Act. Now, even though shown in retrospect to have been exactly right, his tenure is threatened.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act

Posted by: Jumper1 | September 14, 2010 12:30 PM | Report abuse

Trivia question of the day: what percentage of the last six Presidential administrations had a policy of encouraging home ownership... and spurring government to help people achieve it?

That whole argument (it's the government's fault that the housing bubble burst) can at least be made (though I don't agree). The one thing that can't be used in any serious argument is that the governmental actions were the result of one party.

Posted by: baldinho | September 14, 2010 12:30 PM | Report abuse

Ivansmom, you are exhibiting signs of why I quite that game at 5.5 seconds because I knew if I tried one more time I would be deeply hooked - well done on the score though.

Mudge still giggling at your 11:50 post.

Posted by: dmd3 | September 14, 2010 12:39 PM | Report abuse

Frosti liked your post about Machine guns (really people do not hunt with them do they?).

Read an interview with Robert Redford the other day, mentioned we was at one time a hunter and very good shot, no longer and is now a strong supporter of gun control.

Posted by: dmd3 | September 14, 2010 12:42 PM | Report abuse

dmd-the NRA and a lot of gun nuts would have you believe otherwise, but owning weapons and hunting doesn't preclude favoring gun control-at least not for me or among the hunters who live near me. I credit yello with articulating it succinctly but my own thoughts on gun control are that "no one with a spouse should own a hand gun." The rest is just detail.

CqP-that's the spirit! I need to see which of my neighbors has a bumper crop of butternut squash, though they will be inexpensive at the farmers market if I must part with some of my $15. I have gift wine, plus frozen berries and rhubarb-locally gathered.

Posted by: frostbitten1 | September 14, 2010 12:55 PM | Report abuse

dmd, if I have one irony rule, it is this: Never agrue with a woman who knows how to fly a helicopter gunship.

Posted by: curmudgeon6 | September 14, 2010 12:55 PM | Report abuse

After re-reading Mudge's 11:50 I realized that I need new glasses. I thought the last line was "O WILL THE PALIN NEVER END?????" It seemed to make perfect sense at the time...

Posted by: kguy1 | September 14, 2010 1:07 PM | Report abuse

I do have a bumber crop of butternut squash but they tend to get stuck in the fax... Maybe I should try the Rouge Vif d'Étampes pumpkins. Just a quarter of one these flat potiron suffice to make a large pot of pumpkin& red lentil soup, a family favourite.
The NRA, even by their very low standards, has become unhinged. They support that carzy women in Nevada who talks about 2cd amendment "remedies" to Washington tyranny against Reid. Reid has voted against any and all gun control legislation brought to the House and got a $61 million 2900 acres gun range for the state just last year. Nuts I tell you.
How many do you think decry the federal gunmint from the confine of the federal taxpayers-paid range?

Posted by: shrieking_denizen | September 14, 2010 1:11 PM | Report abuse

CqP,
The 25 lb bag with two goldfish on it.

Posted by: yellojkt | September 14, 2010 1:32 PM | Report abuse

O WILL THE PALIN NEVER END????? works fine for me, kguy.

Posted by: curmudgeon6 | September 14, 2010 1:34 PM | Report abuse

Good afternoon all.

A few weeks back, I bought a dress because it was constructed well, fit me well, and gave me the appearance of having curves I don't have (no one will ever mistake me as Beyonce or J Lo from behind), even though I didn't have any idea where I was going to wear the dress. Then this morning, I got my hair relaxed (getting rid of the Roseanne Rosanna Danna look for a while). And then I come home, and...what's this? A tiara? Perfect! It totally goes with the dress. Now to put it all together before next Monday (I figure the chances I'll see the tiara again anytime soon are pretty slim).

Now to find new shoes to go with the new look/outfit....

Posted by: LostInThought | September 14, 2010 1:43 PM | Report abuse

I always figured we could make it so if you had a gun, you have to sign up for the militia. No dues, of course. No requirement to show up for the meetings. Don't know how much difference it would make... might help with bears.

Posted by: Jumper1 | September 14, 2010 2:00 PM | Report abuse

I know eyeballs are eyeballs, but really now --


WaPo has a poll question about whether the health reform bill is Constitutional...

*headdesk headdesk headdesk*

Posted by: Scottynuke | September 14, 2010 2:06 PM | Report abuse

SCC: health CARE reform bill... *SIGH*

Posted by: Scottynuke | September 14, 2010 2:18 PM | Report abuse

Truly that's stoopid, Scotty...

Mudge, your irony rule: ROTFL!

LiT, a photo of you in the finished outfit would be nice. I *love* tiaras!

Posted by: slyness | September 14, 2010 2:26 PM | Report abuse

@ LiT: clap clap clap clap on your victory.

Posted by: MsJS | September 14, 2010 2:39 PM | Report abuse

Good one Joel, but you don't need to be a physicist to recognize Justin Beaver has what it takes to make it the long haul...

Beaver4president.

Posted by: teddymzuri | September 14, 2010 2:52 PM | Report abuse

Scottynuke, surely you're not suggesting there are better ways of deciding whether or not legislation is constitutional? If not Internet polling . . . I don't know. Perhaps some sort of expert panel?

Posted by: cowhand214 | September 14, 2010 2:57 PM | Report abuse

This and that, ahem.

I hope LiT wears her new outfit to the next BPH, tiara and all.

Your tax dollars hard at work: http://www.marinelink.com/news/washington-launching335505.aspx

A friend of mine was laid off a while ago, and went into business for himself. He now makes land mines that look like prayer rugs. Prophits are going through the roof.

Posted by: Don_from_I-270 | September 14, 2010 3:08 PM | Report abuse

A lottery, Cow Town. It ought to be decided by a lottery. Which ever side sells the most tickets. And Big Business should be allowed to weigh in and buy as many lottery tickets as they want, under the Citizens United Ruling.

Also, maybe a TV show with Howie Mandel and a bunch of dynamite girls in black cocktail dresses, each with a briefcase containing an amicus curiae brief. A contestant ("Rebecca is a housewife and soccer mom from Rapid City, South Dakota! C'mon down, rebecca!") dressed in a judges robe decides which girl/briefcase to open.

Posted by: curmudgeon6 | September 14, 2010 3:09 PM | Report abuse

Now, now, cowhand, you can't possibly trust any panel of so-called "experts" on how to interpret the "Constitution". They have an obvious conflict of interest, in that the more "laws" and "Constitutions" there are, the more opportunities these guys make for themselves to make money. Did you know that they have managed to get a separate "Constitution" (it's their word, buddy, don't blame me for it) in each and every one of the States? Now, how can that be right?

From time to time, the right reserves the people to water the tree of tyrants with the blood of liberty! To arms, me buckos, to arms!

Posted by: ScienceTim | September 14, 2010 3:10 PM | Report abuse

Tim, my "memes 'r' us" software just locked up.

Posted by: Jumper1 | September 14, 2010 3:17 PM | Report abuse

You're right ScienceTim. "Expert" is code for "elite." Definitely don't want any of them making decisions that would impact Real Americans.

Posted by: cowhand214 | September 14, 2010 3:26 PM | Report abuse

Cows, we may not be far from the day when the following ad appears: "Follow Justice Scalia's dissents on Twitter."

#@CJRoberts: MarburyvMadison sux hahahaha, Antonin.

#@PopeScalia: Anto, pls stop copying off my paper.

#@J_RuthG: y does CThomas kep staring @ me? Sandra

Posted by: curmudgeon6 | September 14, 2010 3:33 PM | Report abuse

The script is still a mish-mash but Newt Gingrich plays Robespierre And Sarah Palin is Pol Pot.

Posted by: Jumper1 | September 14, 2010 3:33 PM | Report abuse

I thought we already had a panel of experts interpreting the Constitution: SCOTUS.

I freely admit my brain synapses fire oddly, but to me SCOTUS sounds like some sort of fungal disease.

Posted by: MsJS | September 14, 2010 3:36 PM | Report abuse

baldinho - I was overstating the case last night. Certainly, the real estate bubble & crash were caused by the same factors that always cause bubbles & crashes. I think government taxation & lending policies helped lubricate things nicely, though.

Mostly, I was just throwing a bone to RichNomore.

Posted by: bobsewell | September 14, 2010 4:00 PM | Report abuse

Y'all guys are brilliant.

That is all.

Posted by: Ivansmom | September 14, 2010 4:06 PM | Report abuse

Palin... Joan Crawford.

To quote B.O.C., Joan Crawford has risen from the grave.

Posted by: russianthistle | September 14, 2010 4:21 PM | Report abuse

Mudge note the new navy cargo ship is manned by mostly 'civilians'
\http://navysite.de/ake/ake11.htm
The navy is being outsourced. Any evidence the civilians have to be US citizens?

Posted by: bh72 | September 14, 2010 4:28 PM | Report abuse

talitha1

WAC and NAALCP are acronyms.
Unless there is another definition? Another dicktionary? Another language? Liberal-Bonics perhaps?

WE are a growing aggregate of likely (and likeable) voters who no longer wait for cues from failed information brokers and group consensus leaders to see which way to go.

US are US of America that welcomes all immigrants with good will and hearts yearning for the closest thing to pure freedom ever secured by a rag-tag bunch of diverse people who, however flawed in some respects, had the future in view when they crafted the documents WE would do well to review with great zeal and open-mindedness whenever WE are told that WE need reform, and to whom WE should look for guidance in that process.

OUR's is whatever comes to US in good faith, by lawful means, and can be proved to be what, by possessing, results in a net positive to ALL WE come to know.

Let's be perfectly clear about what WE consider to be OUR sacred duty.

Teachable Moments Can be for Anyone, at least that's my opinion.

Posted by: RichNomore | September 14, 2010 4:36 PM | Report abuse

Um, I think that would be "a rag-tag bunch of wealthy white men who, however flawed in some respects, had the future in view when they crafted the documents WE would do well to review with great zeal and open-mindedness whenever WE are told that WE need reform, and to whom WE should look for guidance in that process."

Posted by: kguy1 | September 14, 2010 4:45 PM | Report abuse

Heavenly days! I work hard all day and deal with life in general, log into the boodle for the first time in 14 hours and find a freakin' post from RNM with my name attached to the top of it. Nice.

Hey, Richbaby ..... rest your fingers for awhile and plug your brain into this ---

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=njG7p6CSbCU

Posted by: talitha1 | September 14, 2010 4:54 PM | Report abuse

Well, WAC is an acronym. But how do you pronounce NAALCP? I think that might more properly be characterized an initialization.

Posted by: bobsewell | September 14, 2010 5:04 PM | Report abuse

Oops. An "initialism".

Posted by: bobsewell | September 14, 2010 5:06 PM | Report abuse

http://www.economist.com/blogs/democracyinamerica/2010/08/inequality_and_crash_1

On Community Reinvestment Act and crash: [answer: negatory]

Posted by: Jumper1 | September 14, 2010 5:09 PM | Report abuse

Liberal-Bonics? How effing racist is that?

Posted by: shrieking_denizen | September 14, 2010 5:10 PM | Report abuse

NAALCP is a military acronym - Naval Air Assault Limited Corporate Partnership. It's part of the privatization of the defense forces.

Posted by: -pj- | September 14, 2010 5:29 PM | Report abuse

www.youtube.com/user/cnsrvtvsrule

Posted by: RichNomore | September 14, 2010 5:34 PM | Report abuse

Liberal-bonics. Is that like too much fertilizer on your greenhouse tomahtoes?
Oh .....

Posted by: talitha1 | September 14, 2010 5:34 PM | Report abuse

Usage has gotten pretty sloppy over the past few decades, so I suppose it's fair to say that the distinction no longer matters, but traditionally acronyms are pronounceable words like laser, radar, CREEP. NAALCP would not have been admitted into this august company in a gentler, more refined age.

Posted by: bobsewell | September 14, 2010 5:35 PM | Report abuse

I bet they pronounce it "nawlcap"

Just set up Skype. Without land line, it's a quantum leap in audio quality. Dang people watching Hulu on their iphones and they are swiping all my bandwidth on the cell towers.

My new squeeze tends to mumble. Now I can understand her mumbles perfectly. Not to mention see her, although I have no cam and feel like a peeper.

Posted by: Jumper1 | September 14, 2010 5:37 PM | Report abuse


Music fans of the graying hair greats get their fill locally for free, courtesy of richer-than-Croesus Warren Hellman.
http://www.strictlybluegrass.com/

Although it is hardly strictly bluegrass any longer. What do Earl Scruggs, Mike Patton and Randy Newman have in common, anyway?

Posted by: edbyronadams | September 14, 2010 5:57 PM | Report abuse

As a Service to Fellow Boodlers, I hereby make this observation: There is a new Boodler with the handle of "cowhand214." This person is known to make thoughful posts and is a welcome addition to this little community of imaginary friends.

But "cowhand214" is not me. He/she is someone else. That is all.

Warmest Regards,

CowTown

Posted by: jp1954 | September 14, 2010 6:08 PM | Report abuse

Well, that s'plains at lot for me, CowTown. I thought I'd dreamt it.

If a tabitha chimes in just shoot me.

Posted by: talitha1 | September 14, 2010 6:16 PM | Report abuse

I saw hawks today
memories of a sister
I had never known

Posted by: DNA_Girl | September 14, 2010 6:22 PM | Report abuse

My apologies. Cow Town/jp. And to you, too, cowhand. I believe I am the miscreant who conflated you. I attribute it to my advanced age.

Just got back from doin' my civic dooty and voting for the Majority Whip of the House. Also the governator of this here state, plus lesser assorted officeholders and wannabes.

Now, as I am bacheloring it, I go in search of food. Which I do every night, whether I'm bachelorating it or not, come to think of it.

What's on TV tonight?

Posted by: Curmudgeon5 | September 14, 2010 6:44 PM | Report abuse

The boodle has a herd now!

DNA_girl - extraodinary.

Posted by: dmd3 | September 14, 2010 6:55 PM | Report abuse

bobsewell: I'd be willing to throw RichNoMore a bone and say that there were governmental acts that helped lubricate the tech bubble, too (all those IRA deductions fueling the mutual fund craze, for one).

The rules of bubbles: nobody tries to pop them before they get too crazy. Once they get crazy, anyone who tries to pop them gets laughed at by the people caught up in the frenzy. Once the bubble pops, all the folks who get crushed immediately blame everyone but themselves. The bubble doesn't really get going until a large portion of the people, previously not involved in the speculation, finally give in and all rush in at once.

I remember the heights of the stock bubble. It was the early years of the internet, and all the investing sites were filled with chatters who mocked me for being cautious.

Back then my favorite line was "I am a Daedalus investor in an Icarus market."

The housing bubble was the same, but in a wider level that affected more people directly. One big difference is that when the housing Icari crashed, the housing Daedali saw their house values crash, too. You can't really cash out of the housing market and ride out the storm.

Posted by: baldinho | September 14, 2010 7:00 PM | Report abuse

I had noted the much-welcome presence of the hands-on cow person Cow Town. We know your relation to cattle is largely based on co-location, not lifestyle.
We also know you are not a bête à cornes fiend dear Jean-Pierre. An escargot wrangler you bare not.

Posted by: shrieking_denizen | September 14, 2010 7:00 PM | Report abuse

Gosh, our very own RNM is not only predictably incoherent but, like most trolls, any engagement with him just encourages him. Lost cause, says I.

Posted by: Yoki | September 14, 2010 7:01 PM | Report abuse

SCC are not (where's that b coming from?)

Posted by: shrieking_denizen | September 14, 2010 7:03 PM | Report abuse

Early election update from NH. The Dems,since they are largely incumbents, have almost no appealing races. Their early vote totals, percentage of registered voters casting ballots, are abysmal. Can't really look into that, since there are almost no competitive races.

Surprisingly, the early number in turnout for the Republicans is average at best. Some think there will be an after-work rush, but maybe not.

The relatively low turnout scrambles things a bit. The GOP ticket is tossups all across the board. Do the Tea Party types win the day and nominate some largely unelectable folks... or do the moderate independents come over and push some moderates over the line?

I'm betting Tea Party.

Posted by: baldinho | September 14, 2010 7:04 PM | Report abuse

You know, if I had any confidence that a "mainstream" Republican would work with the President and his party in good faith, I would be upset about these Tea Party candidates.

Posted by: RD_Padouk | September 14, 2010 7:38 PM | Report abuse

Well I voted in our primary here as a Democrat even tho' there was only one race I cared about (replacement for Representative Delahunt in Congress). I did it more as a protest against the rethugs than for a more pure patriotic reason.

As for RNM, I think Scotty's rule about ignoring would work wonders.

Posted by: badsneakers | September 14, 2010 7:39 PM | Report abuse

bobs-I'm with you, if it's not pronounceable as a word it's not an acronym, and adding in vowel sounds does not count.

rnm-your presence here is more tedious than challenging. Don't you have a garden? Some cooking or other skilsl worth sharing? Your comments remind me of the magnetic poetry kit we kept on the fridge when the dott was learning to read-only the random assemblage of words was sometimes amusingly apt.

Posted by: frostbitten1 | September 14, 2010 7:54 PM | Report abuse

I think I'll have a little sign made up:

"Scotty's Rule:
Ignoring Works Wonders"

:-)

Posted by: Scottynuke | September 14, 2010 7:55 PM | Report abuse

I return victorious from fulfilling my civic responsibility/right. I admit, I had no clue about the county Democratic Committee, so I went with the high-tech method of picking every other name of the people who felt it was worth the effort to send basic information to the League of Women Voters, then filled in as necessary until I met the quota. The Board of Ed was a little more tricky, but I found a set of criteria that worked for me. Same for Register of Wills and the Orphans' Court positions which were, unexpectedly, contested in the primary. Several quislings and clueless unqualified twits tried to unseat Mikulski and Sarbanes (hah! as if!). The only really difficult decision was for County Council, where I had no preference for either the incumbent or the challenger, but no real reason to vote against the incumbent.

The general election may be more interesting. Some of the Republican candidates looked non-crazy, or maybe even electable and rational, which is unusual in MD -- usually, the party doesn't even try to run a candidate with a serious hope of winning, so they just let fanatics and weirdos occupy their ballot position. Alan Keyes, for example, used to be a Republican also-ran for House of Reps from MD. I'll have to read their candidate statements carefully this year -- I might even vote for one. Maybe.

But not Bobby Haircut. No way.

Posted by: ScienceTim | September 14, 2010 8:14 PM | Report abuse

The more Tea Party winners the better, say I. Go ahead, Joe the Plumber, rip that party apart. Do what Spiro Agnew and Richard Nixon couldn't do. Nothing could be better than O'Donnell knocking off Castle.

Remember, take no prisoners!! Shoot the wounded!!

And remember, most of all, there is no "me" in "meme!"

Oh, wait...the Doublemint Twins strike again.

The nice thing about a civil war within the GOP is that those people all carry guns. If there was a comparable civil war in the Democratic party, there'd be quiche fights and some very harsh words.

Posted by: Curmudgeon5 | September 14, 2010 8:24 PM | Report abuse

The more Tea Party winners the better, say I. Go ahead, Joe the Plumber, rip that party apart. Do what Spiro Agnew and Richard Nixon couldn't do. Nothing could be better than O'Donnell knocking off Castle.

Remember, take no prisoners!! Shoot the wounded!!

And remember, most of all, there is no "me" in "meme!"

Oh, wait...the Doublemint Twins strike again.

The nice thing about a civil war within the GOP is that those people all carry guns. If there was a comparable civil war in the Democratic party, there'd be quiche fights and some very harsh words.

Posted by: Curmudgeon5 | September 14, 2010 8:34 PM | Report abuse

Ooops, sorry for the double post.

Okay, Boodle, before I post this next item, we have to agree on some ground rules. First and foremost, I think we need to agree there will be no commentary on it of any kind, because...well... I think it will be self-explanatory.

Okay, strap yourselves in and return your trays to the upright position:

"Monkey on loose traps San Antonio woman in her garage"

by Joe Conger / KENS 5

Posted on September 13, 2010 at 4:07 PM

SAN ANTONIO -- Forget Curious George; it’s “Curious WC” as in W.C. Fields: a spider monkey on the lam, and he’s been spotted in the hills around Boerne Stage Road.

“We hear the monkeys in the morning and we hear them late at night. And when my wife calls me in a panic, it’s a concern,” said Gilbert Rodriguez, whose wife was chased into a garage by the primate.

Just half a block away, is the sanctuary known as “Primarily Primates.” Officials there said last week’s storm ripped open the spider monkey’s 40-foot enclosure, allowing the animal to get out. And today, sheriff’s deputies joined the hunt, after a woman reported being attacked and trapped by primate.

“The way she described it, the monkey had his hands up, ready to go,” said the attacked woman’s nephew Matt Meneses.

Meneses was asleep until his aunt’s screams made him go outside and look around.

The family says their dog scared up the monkey in the backyard under the patio, and it chased the woman into her garage.

“He [the monkey] opened the door once, and then she closed it again," Meneses said.

The animal continued to scratch at the door to get in, keeping Meneses’ aunt trapped for more than an hour.

Sanctuary officials said the monkey may have been looking for food in the garage.

Primarily Primates has been taking in mostly apes and monkeys for decades. These are animals getting a second chance to live out their lives, after being used in biomedical research or bought and sold by pet traders.

And after inventorying their populations, sanctuary officials have at least one living on the outside now.

Posted by: Curmudgeon5 | September 14, 2010 8:40 PM | Report abuse

Hey Mudge. How 'bout them Nats!

Posted by: RD_Padouk | September 14, 2010 8:45 PM | Report abuse

Some years ago, but well after my time, the head of the Young Republicans at my alma mater was fatally gunned down by a guy who thought the oligarchs of the Party should have appointed HIM to the position. A sad moment, yet one couldn't shake the thought: "well, what did you expect from your party's policies?"

Posted by: ScienceTim | September 14, 2010 8:45 PM | Report abuse

Note to those interested in the NH Senate race: the early returns (5% of the total precincts) have Ovide with a big lead. I think he will win, BUT, the first 5% of the precincts are usually from Manchester, where his base is. They come in first because Manchester has touch-screen and/or electronic voting, and it tallies first.

His lead will shrink. He will still likely win. The Dems will be happy if he does.

Posted by: baldinho | September 14, 2010 8:48 PM | Report abuse

Quiche' und was? Schimpfwörter?

Denken Sie daran, Anhänger von Al Gore bei Discovery Channel in Maryland?

Vielleicht Darwin ist ein böses Wort?

Unwissenheit ist so glückseligen!

Posted by: RichNomore | September 14, 2010 8:48 PM | Report abuse

Quiche' und was? Schimpfwörter?

Denken Sie daran, Anhänger von Al Gore bei Discovery Channel in Maryland?

Vielleicht Darwin ist ein böses Wort?

Unwissenheit ist so glückseligen!

Posted by: RichNomore | September 14, 2010 8:48 PM | Report abuse

This could warm a few cockles:

“In the year since I issued a prepared statement regarding President Obama speaking to the nation’s schoolchildren, I have learned a great deal about the party I so deeply loved and served,” Greer said in a written statement. “Unfortunately, I found that many within the GOP have racist views and I apologize to the President for my opposition to his speech last year and my efforts to placate the extremists who dominate our party today. My children and I look forward to the president’s speech.”

Posted by: baldinho | September 14, 2010 9:07 PM | Report abuse

SciTim: if only he had been carrying, the YR leader would still be with us. He'd probably have a limp or something, but he'd still be with us.

Posted by: baldinho | September 14, 2010 9:09 PM | Report abuse

4-0 in the 6th, Padouk.

Saw that, baldo. Jeez.

Apparently the WaPo thinks there is a raging electoral battle in the Maryland governor's race, but I have no clue why. O'Malley has 85% of the Dem vote, and Bobby Haircut has 82% of the GOP vote. Sounds like a real barn-burner to me.

You Gleeks may be interested to know the re-run of the "Journey Medley" episode is on now.

Posted by: Curmudgeon5 | September 14, 2010 9:11 PM | Report abuse

I apologize in advance for my horrific sense of humor.

SciTim's earlier post about the YR leader reminds me of the famous axiom:

Some days you're the Tree of Liberty, some days you're the water.

Posted by: baldinho | September 14, 2010 9:11 PM | Report abuse

RNM is now incoherent in two languages. He is a bi-illiterate troll.

I recognize NAALCP as a Limbaughism, but I don't speak wingnut well enough to figure out what sort of slur WAC is other than Western Athletic Conference.

NPR had a story tonight about how the Delaware Republican Party is rob-calling against the tea party candidate.

Posted by: yellojkt | September 14, 2010 9:16 PM | Report abuse

Note that there is more than one fluent German-speaker among the regular happy Boodlers, troll-'o-my heart. And your insults are childishly transparent (though I am sure you consider them supremely snide and subtle) in both English and German.

Posted by: Yoki | September 14, 2010 9:23 PM | Report abuse

Football off topic.

The Patriots traded largely ineffective running back Laurence Maroney to Denver today. The message boards in NE didn't shed many tears. Far and away the best comment was this:

How ironic. He goes from East to West. Just like his moronic running style.

Posted by: baldinho | September 14, 2010 9:25 PM | Report abuse

I'm in NoVa on business and missed my first election of any variety in many, many years. As a registered Republican in a state with closed primaries, there just didn't seem to be any race worth even holding my nose for.

In the general election it will be interesting to see how Bobby Haircut does in his rematch with Muscleshirt O'Malley. It will definitely be the best looking gubernatorial race in the country. If only Steele could be persuaded to grace the undercard again.

Posted by: yellojkt | September 14, 2010 9:35 PM | Report abuse

Guten abend, Frau(lein) Yoki. How bist do doing? Ich haben mein shaden freudian flag geflying.

Posted by: Curmudgeon5 | September 14, 2010 9:38 PM | Report abuse

Mudge, I was once trapped on my back porch by a goat.

Yes Baldinho, that seems to be the operative word for Maroney, unfortunately.

Posted by: badsneakers | September 14, 2010 9:39 PM | Report abuse

The NH House District 2 matchups are a gold mine for headline writers. The Dem race is just about settled, and if the Republican who is currently in second pulls off a win, you could write:

Easy victory? No Swett. Kuster's next stand against big Horn momentum.

Posted by: baldinho | September 14, 2010 9:39 PM | Report abuse

RNM, I don't think you can make a quiche with shrimp and water --- altho it does sound interesting. Post the recipe.

Posted by: nellie4 | September 14, 2010 9:41 PM | Report abuse

Ach, gnedigen Herr 'mudge, ich dost uber-fine. Aber, zuvielen worte aus RNM! I'm thinkin' he should take the abfahrt.

Posted by: Yoki | September 14, 2010 9:43 PM | Report abuse

Ach, gnedige Herr 'mudge, ich bin uber-fine. Aber, zuvielen worte aus RNM! I'm thinkin' he should take the abfahrt.

Posted by: Yoki | September 14, 2010 9:45 PM | Report abuse

Sorry for Boodlehogging, but hahahahahahaha! badsneakers. I can just see you, trying to feint around that goat, and not succeeding.

(I like goats, and since I did Dressage for years and many many horses have goat-friends, completely get it.)

Posted by: Yoki | September 14, 2010 9:50 PM | Report abuse

Wow. WaPo says O'Donnell really did beat Castle. I never thought it would happen...but I'm delighted.

Posted by: Curmudgeon5 | September 14, 2010 9:51 PM | Report abuse

"Dear voter. This is your state Democratic Party calling. No, please, don't hang up! This is important.

"We are aware that in the primary election race for the Republican nomination to the Senate, what's-her-name O'Donnell seems to be fighting an effective battle against long-time Representative Mike Castle. Mike Castle is a good and honorable and decent man, and reasonably funny when he was on the Colbert Report. He has managed to be a long-time Representative by consistently eating our lunch, handing us our heads, cleaning our clocks -- choose your favorite metaphor.

"Honest, there's nothing we'd like better than to beat Mike Castle. That would be a heck of a victory. If you select O'Donnell as your nominee, we are pretty sure that we can count Delaware in the win column for us. We'd miss the joy of beating Mike Castle, but we'd win.

"The thing is, we wouldn't really mind losing to Mike Castle, either. Not because we agree with him -- we don't -- but there's no shame in losing to a noble opponent. O'Donnell, on the other hand, is an unprepared nitwit who can burble a few buzz-words and that's about it.

"If O'Donnell wins the general election, we guarantee you that most of this state's better-educated people will be heading for another state that puts more value on education and literacy and expects those qualities in its leaders. Like West Virginia.

"Anyway, we're not really too worried about that. So, remember, folks: a vote for O'Donnell is a vote for a Democrat.

"Good night and good luck!"

Posted by: ScienceTim | September 14, 2010 9:54 PM | Report abuse

Oops! I took a little too long to finish.

Sorry, Delaware. Too bad about, well... you know.

Posted by: ScienceTim | September 14, 2010 9:59 PM | Report abuse

So the Perennial Wingnut won in Delaware. VP Biden must be having a party tonight.

Western Athletic Conference seems to be a slur in some circles. Once, Wyoming hired a bright young football coach, Pat Dye, from Eastern Carolina. Dye continued recruiting back home. A few of those recruits walked to the railroad station on weekdays and disappeared back South. Coach did the same, going to Auburn, complaining that Wyoming kids wasted their time on rodeo and skiing.

Posted by: DaveoftheCoonties | September 14, 2010 9:59 PM | Report abuse

Yoki, I generally like goats but this particular one was quite large and had horns, which made me plenty nervous. Found out later he belonged to someone in the neighborhood and was tame (still didn't like those horns tho').

Posted by: badsneakers | September 14, 2010 10:06 PM | Report abuse

It's called the Give 'Em Enough Rope theory of two party politics. Also known as "When your enemy is self-destructing, get out of their way."

Posted by: yellojkt | September 14, 2010 10:11 PM | Report abuse

"Good night and good luck!"?

Dear What's Your Name,

ما هي المدونة ، خنزير
Kisa yon blog-porsin?
Zer da Blog-Hog da?
Qu'est-ce qu'un Blog-Hog?


Posted by: RichNomore | September 14, 2010 10:22 PM | Report abuse

Sorry, CowTown. I too had meant to point out the distinction earlier but got sidetracked with that whole work thing. For those who are still slightly in the dark: CowTown makes wise and witty posts and (from what I gather) is a long term member of the boodle. I, in contrast, primarily lurk and drop in to ramble from time to time.


In far more important news, the Orioles appear to be beating the socks off the Jays. They're playing some awesome baseball since Buck Showalter's arrival. Hot damn, it's about time! When is Opening Day again?

Posted by: cowhand214 | September 14, 2010 10:25 PM | Report abuse

In the future, when my son rules the universe (I guess that would make him supreme ruler of the Great Caliphate and universal arbiter of sharia law) he will undoubtedly be interviewed by the state-run newspaper (the only one... and undoubtedly by a man) and asked what started him on his ways to greatness.

My dream is that when that happens, his answer will be simple:

"When I was a toddler, my parents helped me to count and understand the alphabet by buying CDs from They Might Be Giants."

OK, so my wife and I watch them more than he does. This is only one of the songs.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dqNEPz7BWzM&feature=related

Posted by: baldinho | September 14, 2010 10:26 PM | Report abuse

More fun with homonyms when there are no copy editors around:

http://www.slate.com/blogs/blogs/scocca/archive/2010/09/14/will-someone-please-rein-in-reign.aspx

Posted by: yellojkt | September 14, 2010 10:28 PM | Report abuse

DaveoftheCoonties-

Samstämmighet är säker bra!

Ki sa ou di: Willis?

Posted by: RichNomore | September 14, 2010 10:42 PM | Report abuse

Good evening, all.

Yello, you made my day with the Hold Steady video earlier. They come to 9:30 every six months or so -- if we don't catch 'em this time around, we'll catch the spring tour. I've seen 'em several times, they're a darn good show.

Not sure I buy into the idea that the Tea Party is going to upset the GOP applecart due to the TP folks being rather polarizing. I might be wrong here, but if both sides (the GOP & TP folks) see a situation that they can both leverage each others' strengths to fortify weaknesses, they'll realize that if they work together they can get a lot closer to their goals than with conservative factionism diffusing their efforts. I believe compromise deals are coming, done behind closed doors.

Dems, I don't think it's time to start counting chickens just yet -- even *if* a GOP/TP rift really is exploitable in the Nov. elections, you're going to have to work for it. Hard.

As far as write-in candidates, hey exceptions happen - it's working for Joe Lieberman, isn't it?

Busy with work and sick children and a lot of other stuff, but not too busy to congratulate LiT on an excellent week of pigskin prognostication - the tiara looks great on you, ma'am.

bc

bc

Posted by: -bc- | September 14, 2010 10:43 PM | Report abuse

cowhand,beating the socks of the Jays - not exactly an uncommon occurrance lately.

Posted by: dmd3 | September 14, 2010 10:54 PM | Report abuse

Isn't that darling?

Posted by: Yoki | September 14, 2010 11:09 PM | Report abuse

dmd, perhaps so but it was a big deal for the O's. They were 0-12 against the Jays this season before last night.

Posted by: cowhand214 | September 14, 2010 11:30 PM | Report abuse

Regrettably, I couldn't communicate with my Nordic or Slovak ancestors should they show up at the door at the end of Oct.

Before Rush Limbaugh gets hold of the story, take a peek here at Science (should be non-subscription) for a story on disappearing sunspots. Another long spell of spotless sun might be in the offing.
http://news.sciencemag.org/sciencenow/2010/09/say-goodbye-to-sunspots.html?etoc

Just to beat Rush, I will be the first to wonder whether a gracious Providence might be about to save us from our own stupidity by keeping the planet habitable long enough for good sense to take root.

Posted by: DaveoftheCoonties | September 14, 2010 11:38 PM | Report abuse

rambling posts, regardless of the language, made me think of Jim Morrison, a rambler of the finest sort. iirc, this video was shot during a sound check at the santa monica civic center.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3MbXcef8JQY&feature=related

Posted by: -jack- | September 14, 2010 11:49 PM | Report abuse

http://web.archive.org/web/20080513184250/http://www.scifi.com/scifiction/classics/classics_archive/tiptree/tiptree1.html

Posted by: Jumper1 | September 14, 2010 11:56 PM | Report abuse

A: NH race in Senate too close to call
B: The Union Leader is almost desperately trying to pull Ovide over the line
C: is for conifers

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FijQbZeTGNc

Posted by: baldinho | September 15, 2010 5:49 AM | Report abuse

Good morning. Where is everybody?

No political comments from me this morning, since there wasn't an election locally. Mr. T is concerned about his friend in DC government because of Fenty's loss, but my guess is that this person is sufficiently politically savvy to survive.

Ham biscuits and appropriate hot and cold beverages on the ready room table. I'm glad to see that the late night political junkies didn't leave a mess in the bunker. Thanks, guys!

Posted by: slyness | September 15, 2010 7:54 AM | Report abuse

Somehow I'm getting the impression the Founding Fathers foresaw the occasional rise of rabid know-nothings when they included the Senate as a counterbalance to the House.

*many-things-cropping-up-all-at-once-but-what-else-is-new Grover waves* :-)

Posted by: Scottynuke | September 15, 2010 8:37 AM | Report abuse

New Kit!

Posted by: Scottynuke | September 15, 2010 8:50 AM | Report abuse

New kit.

Posted by: slyness | September 15, 2010 8:57 AM | Report abuse

Daveo............, et all,

There is something taking root alwright that doesn't resemble what most would call good sense, and look at the damage done to OUR Democratic-Republic with the sun-spots. Maybe WE can make use of the respite to let cooler heads prevail and some of the wild roots wither or at least not spread further.

See, when y'all write and presumeably speak about WE the people, and those who resonate with OUR sensitivities, in a more or less crude and pejorative tone, y'all become, by default those and you people.

He (Obama) was famously a political rock star. That metaphor may have been overused, but it was exactly on point. There was always an irrational exhuberance among those folks who packed his rallies. Remember, he routinely could draw 25,000 people to an event in 2007 and 2008. Or 50,000. Or 75,000. He was a phenomenon. And he had them at "Hello."

Isn't that his, and y'all's problem now? He could have come out and said "hello, my name is Sue, how do you do", and he still would be President, precisely because he rode the wave created for him by the now imbedded handlers and the whole ABMSNBDNCNNBS (aka Chitcago News Networks). Now WE see you people spinning in the wind trying to find that groove that can cover him and you from the glaring light of reality that shows: phenomenons do not necessarily have (no matter what y'all change the meaning of hope into) the what-do-you-call-it, GRAVITAS, to govern and administrate, especially in difficult times. Beyond that, the president's men have no regret, none!, for using this interesting time for their own and own friend's purely self-centered political and financial purposes. WE all (50-85%) are beginning to see how this slide into despotism must stop NOW.

Posted by: RichNomore | September 15, 2010 10:28 AM | Report abuse

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