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Decision 2010: GOP to gain 793 seats in House, 112 in Senate

By Joel Achenbach

Today, the Republican landslide will sweep across this nation like a tsunami. The professional pundits predict as many as 85 pick-ups by the GOP in the House, which shows that the pundits should get out more, among the people, who are mad as hell and pondering the possibility of not taking it anymore. These are, of course, the same people who, in 2006, and 2008, largely voted Democratic, but that was before the Democrats used their new power to try to pass legislation and sneaky stuff like that. The socialism thing. Running up deficits.

Yeah, they said they'd do this, but it was really tricky of them to actually follow through. That was the curve ball that we didn't expect. They're out.

Headline in the Post this morning: Democrats bracing for losses. I have several friends who already are crouched forward with their heads between their knees. They'll be watching the election returns tonight through a fog of heavy sedation. The caterers at the Democratic election-watching parties have been asked to serve, in addition to the usual red white and white wine, morphine.

That California gubernatorial race really has caught my eye. Jerry Brown wants to be governor again, just like back in the 1970s. If he wins, I'm thinking Burt Reynolds will reclaim his spot as America's Number One Movie Star.

Here in the District of Columbia, I'm on pins and needles to find out who will win the race between Ward 3 councilperson Mary Cheh and whoever the guy is she's running against. Some Republican. Endorsed by The Post, actually. I've never met him and know nothing about him, whereas Mary Cheh always shows up at the neighborhood parade, the neighborhood pig roast, even the block party on the little street around the corner. I give huge points for showing up. No event is too small or humble to prevent her attendance. Sometimes I'll be on my back porch, alone, reading a magazine and drinking a glass of wine, and Mary Cheh will suddenly appear in my back yard and say: "I heard there was a party." Whereas that other guy, the Republican, I probably would have to send him an engraved invitation before he'd even robo-call my house.

This is what's going to be on my mind when, and if, I go to the polls today.

Also, the issues.

By Joel Achenbach  | November 2, 2010; 7:45 AM ET
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Hey, didn't anybody watch the Giants win the World Series.

East coast bias, grumble.

Posted by: edbyronadams | November 2, 2010 9:35 AM | Report abuse

I did, ed. Weren't you paying attention last night?

Yes, mudged myself. A re-post: (No, not a repost, which is a reply, often withering. See, that's why one needs the hyphen.):

dmd raises an interesting question. Why don't people fall off granola trucks? One almost never hears much about the granola farming industry. DaveotC, you're our resident botanical expert. What can you tell us about the granola plant? What climatic zones does it grow best in?

I now realize I know virtually nothing about granola farming. I don't even know what a granola plant looks like. Tuber? Shrub? Does it fall off granola trees? Does the granola plant (whatever it looks like) have additional utility besides as a breakfast food? Are the buds hallucinogenic? Can you smoke it? Inject it? Can you burn granola oil in place of gasoline or diesel? Can you make rope out of granola fiber? (For that matter, can you make rope out of any high-fiber vegetable matter? Can you make rope out of the metamucil plant?)

Have scientists yet figured out if the granola was introduced to North America by arriving European colonists such as Don Diego Posttoasti or Juan Hernando Nabisco, or was it the other way around, did explorers take the granola plant back to Europe with them? Is there any truth to the fable that the Viking explorer Bjorn the Regular brought it back from Vineland in the 11th century?

And can you make sandals out of muesli?

DotC, I await your learned response.

Posted by: curmudgeon6 | November 2, 2010 9:40 AM

Posted by: curmudgeon6 | November 2, 2010 9:48 AM | Report abuse

Is baseball finally over? Congratulations to whatever team won. I assume this happened too quickly to get a new episode of Glee on the air tonight.

Posted by: yellojkt | November 2, 2010 9:49 AM | Report abuse

Mudge, you know that you can read about Juan Hernando Nabisco in the Texas State Education Board's newly approved 5th grade history texts.

Posted by: russianthistle | November 2, 2010 9:45 AM

Posted by: russianthistle | November 2, 2010 9:49 AM | Report abuse

Yes!!! Jkt, Let's give a big cheer for the !!!!!

Posted by: russianthistle | November 2, 2010 9:52 AM | Report abuse

Oh, and I'm sure I speak for all Boodle regulars when I say we all eagerly await the first post from a drive-by excoriating Joel for not knowing how many seats there are in the House of Representative (not counting folding chairs, of course), or in the Senate.

Because I am JUST FREAKING DYING to have the WaPo post this hed on the front page: "Decision 2010: GOP to gain 793 seats in House, 112 in Senate." It'd be the first political headline I've read in two months that gave me any pleasure whatsoever.

PS: Doesn't Joel know that morphine is illegal if dispensed without a prescription? Someone should probably tell him. For a science writer the man is unusually ill-informed about some things. I blame his elitist Princeton education.

Posted by: curmudgeon6 | November 2, 2010 9:56 AM | Report abuse

Warning to Boodlers: the WaPo rotating photo box is now running a photo of Christine O'Donnell emerging from the polling booth that is just so durn perky that I think I'm going to projectile vomit.

Posted by: curmudgeon6 | November 2, 2010 10:05 AM | Report abuse

Hey, I stayed up way past my bedtime watching the Giants. I was impressed, especially since both of those fellows pitching for the Giants were sorely in need of quality tonsorial services. I kept thinking it was odd that the first pitcher looked a little like "Jay" while the closer looked a little like "Silent Bob." But that might just be me.

To make matters worse from a general cognitive coherence standpoint, I got up extra early so as to vote. I still think my good friend Steve and I need to come to some agreement to both skip voting as we tend to cancel each other out anyway.

When it comes to politics I keep going back to that observation Joel once made about the reptilian hind-brain. So many voters don't think as much as react. Sort of like dogs and squirrels. Politics is becoming a lot like the stock market, excess volatility driven by amplified fear.

But here's the thing. Politics isn't supposed to be about winning. It's supposed to be about governing. I mean, it's not baseball.

Posted by: RD_Padouk | November 2, 2010 10:06 AM | Report abuse

Mudge, if the GOP is poised to gain that many seats, the Dems would probably qualify for hospice care and thus their choice of painkillers.

Posted by: MsJS | November 2, 2010 10:06 AM | Report abuse

I think all this talk about a Republican tsunami scared a lot of folk into voting. Over 55% of registered voters in my state are expected to show up at the polls. Since most registered voters are Democratic this means they've got a chance of staunching the tsunami.

Did I use "staunch" correctly? Maybe I should have used "stem" or "thwart."

Posted by: jp1954 | November 2, 2010 10:11 AM | Report abuse

Ya need a script for morphine? Who knew? Boy, that Mudge is my go-to guy for good stuff to know. I suppose that Burl Ives would get arrested these days for singing, "Jimmy cracked corn, and I don't care..."

Posted by: Don_from_I-270 | November 2, 2010 10:12 AM | Report abuse


Burl would be put onto Benydryl-- that's always good for Ives. Also Aveeno soap.

Posted by: curmudgeon6 | November 2, 2010 10:17 AM | Report abuse

Mudge, I was going to suggest that Joel was now openly baiting junesongprovider.

Posted by: byoolin1 | November 2, 2010 10:18 AM | Report abuse

But I thought we only had to avoid Ives in March...

Posted by: Scottynuke | November 2, 2010 10:21 AM | Report abuse

Let's get it out of the way then, shall we?

I can't tell if you're kidding or not, but you're an idiot if you think there's 793 seats in the House and 112 in the Senate.

There. Nothing to see here folks, just a humor blog. Move along.

Posted by: MoftheMountain | November 2, 2010 10:21 AM | Report abuse

As was said in The Early Days of the Boodle, before the Boodle was even called "The Boodle," and was said by a person of handle unknown, and yea, this person wrote thus: "The Achenblog is an idiot."




Posted by: jp1954 | November 2, 2010 10:26 AM | Report abuse

Thank you, MotM; that's was terse and succinct. I'm crossing that item off my to-do list

Scotty, I've heard that there's been trouble with B. Ives, and that they are dying. Something is killing the B's. If I had to guess, I'd say it was all their honey-doo's. What's the last time you saw a B. Ives hair-do? You can comb the archives all you want without finding one. Which may explain why the B. Ives honey combs are empty.

Posted by: curmudgeon6 | November 2, 2010 10:41 AM | Report abuse

Howdy y'all. I'm afraid Joel's headline is inaccurate. By my count, the Republicans are set to take 1,124.5 seats in the House. He's right about the Senate, though.

Alas. Oklahoma will be electing a woman governor today, which is a great thing. However, all poll indications are that we will elect the wrong one. Rather than the excellent conservative Democrat, we will elect the party-line conservative Republican who, in her first term in Congress, introduced - I think - 15 bills and passed none. That may actually be overstating her record. She's a nice lady, but what a missed opportunity for our state.

All Oklahoma gubernatorial candidates are conservative, whether Democrat or Republican. It is the nature of the state. My liberal and progressive friends grumble because the Democrat is explicitly running as a conservative. Whiners. I tell them to shut up and vote.

Posted by: Ivansmom | November 2, 2010 10:43 AM | Report abuse

My deepest apologies if this has been covered previously, but see ballot initiative 1069 on this page. I'm sure the sponsor could've found the 241,153 registered voters signatures necessary to put that on the ballot if he'd put some effort into it. Slacker.

Amusing sidenote: Washington state's flag is the state seal on a green background. Truly this was a missed opportunity for tapeworms and taxpayers everywhere.

Posted by: MoftheMountain | November 2, 2010 10:53 AM | Report abuse

Something tells me that Joel is not going to win Chris Cizzilla's The Fix Election Prediction pool.

Posted by: yellojkt | November 2, 2010 10:54 AM | Report abuse

I hope Cilizza is found floating face-down in that pool.

(Metaphorically and hyperbolically speaking.)

Posted by: curmudgeon6 | November 2, 2010 11:07 AM | Report abuse

My favorite part of working any problem is when Management swings into 5th gear and, after ignoring your pleas for time and/or resources for 5 weeks, begins asking "urgent" questions using incorrect terminology while at the same time showing a staggering lack of comprehension of the issue at hand.

To tie it all back in: my above description is not unlike some Tea Party candidates who will be in the news today.

Posted by: cowhand214 | November 2, 2010 11:21 AM | Report abuse

Hmm, my "rant" "end rant" tags went missing.

Posted by: cowhand214 | November 2, 2010 11:24 AM | Report abuse

The WaPo commenting software strips out all HTML tags including those that are hypothetical or satirical, hence our lack of of italics, bold, and blinking comments.

Posted by: yellojkt | November 2, 2010 11:33 AM | Report abuse

I have been officially mudged. So, here is what I posted in the last kit (with apologies to the actual *Mudge* for the first line, but honestly, I didn't see a new kit -- dang!)

What new kit, Mudge? In the corners of your mind, perhaps? Not that there's anything wrong with that, of course.

I have voted -- only 5 people in line ahead of me, but the deed is done.

I'm with you, Raysmom (and Sneaks) -- I can't wait until the ads (pernicious or otherwise) are gone, gone, gone. But you realize that starting on Thursday, the ads for 2012 will start, so I suggest that we lubricate those mute buttons on our remotes, or maybe even just leave the TV off and read a book or knit or, well, whatever.

Mudge, you realize that Bjørn (Norwegian/Danish) or Björn (Swedish) means "bear", so I've at least accomplished *my* "bear" boodle reference for the day.

Hey, have you guys noticed that there is no longer any reference to the number of comments on the Boodle? That started sometime last week, I think. Rubbing my eyes in confusion or in response to allergies does not change that.

Gotta go. Cya later.

Posted by: ftb3 | November 2, 2010 11:15 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: ftb3 | November 2, 2010 11:34 AM | Report abuse

OK, everyone, you've done it now. I'm sitting here watching my students take their test, and I just stopped in here because I was bored clearing out my work email inbox. But if y'all are going to make me snorfle like that (that's what happens when I try to stifle a giggle), my students will lose all respect for me. Mudge, I'm looking at you. It's your fault if they write nasty things on my evaluations about how I laugh at their pain during test-taking.

Posted by: -bia- | November 2, 2010 11:35 AM | Report abuse

I too, have become bored with Cilizza's constant "How the Republicans can take the Senate," "How O'Donnell can win Delaware," "How Republican Zombie Hordes Can Feast on the Flesh of Their Democratic Rivals," etc.

He's going to have to take a vacation on Wednesday. I mean, what will he have to talk about?

Posted by: jp1954 | November 2, 2010 11:44 AM | Report abuse

MSNBC's Chuck Todd stressed the numbers this morning, as well as other news folk, I'm wagering a safe bet: 39 and 10.

The Jerry Brown gag is funny, Joel. Wonder if Meg Whitman is regretting spending all her eBay dough-ray-me...well, the regrets may come after the numbers are in. Dusting the cobwebs off memories of Linda Ronstadt as well. Her "Canciones de mi Padre" sits among my CD collection.

We'll head to the polls after the lunch crowd exits, 1:30 p.m. or so. I will be so glad to have all the famous people stop calling me and my husband. Bill Clinton this morning (for Ciro Rodriguez), Eva Longoria Parker last night (for Ciro Rodriguez), and Mike Huckabee on Sunday (for who knows what?). And the political ads on TeeVee will evaporate into our heavy humidity air after tonight, thank goodness.

Morning Joe said this ayem that Repubs, at this point in time, favor Cousin Mitt, at 29 percent.

Speaking of Juan Nabisco, or whatever name someone cooked up, I would like to see the weathermen pronounce the name of tropical depression Tomas swirling southeast of Haiti correctly. ABC's Sam Champion pronounced it quite Anglicized today, "Thomas."

Our own ABC affiliate weatherman Steve Browne for two days has been calling it "Toe-mASS," with the emphasis on the last three letters. You'd think with the Spanish-speaking employees in the KSAT newsroom, plus the weekend anchor team of Gonzales and Romero, that he'd have some expert help in pronouncing "TOE-mas" the right Espanol way on-air.

Posted by: laloomis | November 2, 2010 11:45 AM | Report abuse


Is that Christine person more perky than you? If she is, I'm way pissed off. Only you have that status. She needs to find her own!

I agree with JA, half of winning is showing up.

Posted by: cmyth4u | November 2, 2010 11:51 AM | Report abuse


Is that Christine person more perky than you? If she is, I'm way pissed off. Only you have that status. She needs to find her own!

I agree with JA, half of winning is showing up.

Posted by: cmyth4u | November 2, 2010 11:52 AM | Report abuse

I propose we make Perky Christine an internet meme on the order of Sad Kenau and Strutting Leo by photoshopping her into pictures where that cat-eating grin is totally inappropriate.

Picture here:

Posted by: yellojkt | November 2, 2010 11:53 AM | Report abuse

In my personal election news, I realized last night that -- unlike other places I have lived -- changing my address on my driver's license, car registration, etc., etc., does not seem to update my voter registration. Our move last year was just across town, so I think I'm still legal to vote, but I probably have to go to my old precinct. I'll go see this afternoon. If I'm wrong, I'll go to my new precinct. If I can't vote anywhere, I'll be upset. Not that my vote will mean much this year -- our rep. is a Rep. who's running against the same Dem. as last time, when it wasn't close despite Obama's coattails. I have not seen a single ad for either of them. And otherwise it's just judges. I wish I could vote one district to the north, where the rep. is a freshman Dem. in a tight and nasty race to keep his seat. Fingers crossed for him.

Posted by: -bia- | November 2, 2010 11:58 AM | Report abuse

Mr. C, please ignore the woman behind the curtain.

Posted by: russianthistle | November 2, 2010 12:06 PM | Report abuse

Election Day and All Souls Day. Purgatory and praying for the dead.

Posted by: LostInThought | November 2, 2010 12:07 PM | Report abuse

I can relate to bia regarding the ballot facing me today. Our "rep" is a Republican running unopposed save for the Libertarian who always opposes him. Also, there are three county proposals that will pass with or without my approval, which they have. I vote because I believe it's fundamental to citizenship (and all that), plus it's fun to chat up the neighbors!

Posted by: talitha1 | November 2, 2010 12:28 PM | Report abuse


My Tea Party Nation newsletter warned be of this a few days ago. Here is what they said:

///48 Hours from now, Americans will be going to the polls to send two-thirds of the Obama/Pelosi/Reid axis of fiscal evil into retirement.

At TPN, we have been warning people for weeks, that the liberals will not go quietly away. Their only chance is to steal the election. We are already hearing the stories of election fraud with early and absentee voting. There is no telling what Tuesday will bring.

To paraphrase the old Smokey the Bear commercial, "Only you can prevent voter fraud." When you go to vote this Tuesday, carry your video capable cellphones with you. If you do not have one, get a video flip camera. If you see something, video it.

If we have it on video, they cannot deny it.

If you see voter fraud, email us with the information. Our special email is We will be sharing any information we get with some of our partners who are working with us to help stop election theft.

Keep your eyes open and do not be afraid to speak out. Only by stopping voter fraud can we save our country!///

I am going to have to report you trying to cross precincts to my jack-booted superiors. We can't have any of this radical exercising your right to vote going on while I'm watching.

Posted by: yellojkt | November 2, 2010 12:29 PM | Report abuse

PS ... I leave the Representative's box "unchecked".

Posted by: talitha1 | November 2, 2010 12:32 PM | Report abuse

Nice, LiT.

Posted by: Ivansmom | November 2, 2010 12:47 PM | Report abuse

Taking a deep breath between meetings (booked solid today).

I am disappointed that O'Donnell didn't fly out of that voting booth on a broom.

I'm thinking that the Dem election-watching parties should have helium tanks with breathing masks available in order to to make them more fun. Morphine's tougher to administer, y'know.

Should be really interesting at the Prop 19 watching parties, too. Paaaaarrrrrtaaayyyy! Good luck finding your jacket (and maybe shoes)(and maybe Jerry Brown) after that one.

LiT - thanks for pointing that out.

yello, no Glee tonight. Election coverage.
Ironic, isn't it?


Posted by: -bc- | November 2, 2010 1:18 PM | Report abuse

bia- go to your old polling place. I moved to Williamson Co. this year and didn't register and had to early-vote in Travis Co. Registration was still good, just the address was bad and, as long as you don't try to vote twice, the folks at the booth don't give a dam.

Hydroelectric or otherwise.

Posted by: GomerGross | November 2, 2010 1:34 PM | Report abuse

bc- hold the helium, give'em some nitrous oxide. Might actually make them feel better

Posted by: GomerGross | November 2, 2010 1:37 PM | Report abuse


Last night, because I was puny, I had the Boy bringing me things. First I asked for the broomstick of the Wicked Witch of the West. He looked at me funny. Next I asked for the head of John the Baptist. He brought me a decorated Dia de los Muertos sugar skull. Finally, I asked for my purse. He brought me my purse.

I'm so easily amused.

Posted by: Ivansmom | November 2, 2010 1:42 PM | Report abuse

One of Jerry Brown's TV commercials shows his opponent talking about how, when she arrived in California 30 years ago, it was a wonderful place full of opportunity. Then it's pointed out that, back then, Jerry Brown was governor.

O'Donnell is just a sideshow.

Posted by: DaveoftheCoonties | November 2, 2010 1:43 PM | Report abuse

Prop 19 parties are the ones with hookahs festooned with festive with red, white and blue bunting, I think.


Posted by: -bc- | November 2, 2010 1:43 PM | Report abuse

O'Donnell is window dressing on the Overton Window placed there strictly to make the other wingnuts look less crazy.

Posted by: yellojkt | November 2, 2010 1:47 PM | Report abuse

I voted. For the first time. And bought apple pie at the accompanying bake sale in the school. There is no turning back.

Posted by: DNA_Girl | November 2, 2010 1:48 PM | Report abuse

The voter fraud claims have already started. Our local newspaper ran a column by someone who thinks absentee voting should be largely done away with. He ought to visit Oregon, where nearly all voting is by mail.

Posted by: DaveoftheCoonties | November 2, 2010 1:58 PM | Report abuse

They had a bake sale where I voted, too. Talk about a captive audience.

We've been told we should dine at Georgia Brown's. Have any Boodlers been there? I'm told it's an Obama favorite.

Posted by: jp1954 | November 2, 2010 2:04 PM | Report abuse

They had a bake sale where I voted, too. Talk about a captive audience.

We've been told we should dine at Georgia Brown's. Have any Boodlers been there? I'm told it's an Obama favorite.


Posted by: jp1954 | November 2, 2010 2:04 PM | Report abuse

Hearty congratulations and thanks to DNA Girl! Way to exercise your citizenship rights. You go!

Posted by: Ivansmom | November 2, 2010 2:20 PM | Report abuse

I've been to Georgia Brown's a couple of times. It's gourmet Southern/soul food. Expect a lot of fried items done with fancy ingredients. Here's the menu:

Nice strong drinks at the bar, too.

The real event there is Sunday brunch which is a full buffet AND a main course. Nearly everybody has the main course boxed for take-home.

Part of the appeal to the Obamas must be that it is walking distance from their front door. It's also pretty close to the official BPH spot, but we've never seen any of the WH staff wander in.

Posted by: yellojkt | November 2, 2010 2:25 PM | Report abuse

Hey, the International Space Station has been occupied for 10 years as of today! Wonder if they're sending any extra aluminum/diamond/tin up with the Shuttle...

Posted by: Scottynuke | November 2, 2010 2:34 PM | Report abuse

I know that some of you are wondering the same thing I am. "Gee, Mudge," you are almost certainly asking yourself, "why is the WaPo running photos of no less than NINE Republicans and only TWO Democrats on the front page rotating box" (plus, I guess I should add, a former madam running in the Anti-Prohibition Party).

"Mudge, whyncha give us that tally in detail," I hear you asking.

Be glad to.

GOP pix: Brewer, Ehrlich, Wilson, Whitman, Paul (twice) O'Donnell, Paladino, Fiorino, and Palin (who isn't even running).

Dems: O'Malley, Jerry Brown (twice).

Former vaginal services provider: Kristin Davis (the one who said "all the wh0res are in Albany").

Alas, I am unable to provide an answer. But I shall have words with the ombudsman about it.

Posted by: curmudgeon6 | November 2, 2010 2:36 PM | Report abuse

I was #57 to vote this morning. Last year I voted at the same time and was #43. Does this mean that our turnout increased by more than 30%? One can hope...

How do others here handle the gauntlet of folks pushing flyers at you as you enter your polling place? I usually just smile, say "good morning" and keep walking briskly to the door.

Posted by: Raysmom | November 2, 2010 2:45 PM | Report abuse

I wuz wunderin', Mudge. But not too hard. ;)

Posted by: talitha1 | November 2, 2010 2:46 PM | Report abuse

If you really want to follow in Barack's footprints, use this map:

The Obamas have pretty good taste in restaurants. Places they've been that I've been to include Ben's Chili Bowl, Georgia Browns, B. Smiths, The Source, Ray's Hell Burgers, and Oyamel (try the grasshopper tacos). And of course, Five Guys, just not the particular one he takes Joe Biden to.

Posted by: yellojkt | November 2, 2010 2:52 PM | Report abuse

Actually, I do have an answer: Demographics and money. The "old" dead-tree print edition WaPo lives in a town and region that is/was overwhelmingly Demcoratic; thus the Post has this (well-earned) reputation for being Dem and liberal. And it makes sense to appeal to one's demographic.

Enter the Internet age and WSJ alum Marcus Brauchli, and a new WaPo ownership regime. The online WaPo is national, and the Dems no longer represent an overwhelming part of the demographic. So guess who the online version caters to? Yes. The Washington Post has ceased to be a liberal newspaper. It cannot announce this, of course. But many people have begun to suspect it.

Or perhaps more accurately, one might say there is no longer just a single-entity WaPo. Now there are two: (1) the fading dead-tree remnants, theoretically still liberal, and still elistly tasteful and funny and thoughtful; and (2) the online version, snarky, increasingly tacky, and a---kissingly sucking up to the GOP/Right/Conservatives.

I would kill to sit down and have a beer with Len Downey and Ben Bradley and hear their thoughts on the question.

Posted by: curmudgeon6 | November 2, 2010 2:54 PM | Report abuse

Raysmom, I always wonder about those who stand on the periphery of voting places with their signs and pamphlets. How many voters do they actually think are still undecided at that point? If you're at the polls to vote I'm fairly certain you've made your choices by that time. I just smile and keep walking.

But, as I said earlier, I love schmoozing with the neighbors on election day, even when I know we hold differing views. Everyone from the town and surrounding area shows up ... kind of like the old Court Days from earlier centuries. No apple pie, though.

Posted by: talitha1 | November 2, 2010 2:57 PM | Report abuse

Does The Boy hire out, Ivansmom? I don't live *that* far away. Same country, coupla states east and north. Great ambiance. Buncha old f@rts live in this building, tho.

Okay, never mind. It's the thought that counts.

BTW, loved Barbara Mikulski's ads about now being a woman is no longer a pre-existing condition. She's sooooo good. And she can fit in my pocket (just like my mom could). Tiny, tiny, tiny.

Posted by: ftb3 | November 2, 2010 2:57 PM | Report abuse

At my polling place today, over in the poor folks side of town, I asked the volunteers (I see the same faces every time, bless them) how the turnout was. "Is it better than '06?" I asked. "No, not like '08 - Oh, '06? Yes, lots better than then." "So you think the first time voters in '08 are coming back?" "Yes."

Posted by: Jumper1 | November 2, 2010 2:59 PM | Report abuse

Sen. Mikulski is 4'11". Same height as Bonnie Parker, Dorothy Parker, Joan of Arc, Cathy Rigby, and (wait for it) Tammy Faye Bakker.

Posted by: kguy1 | November 2, 2010 3:08 PM | Report abuse

Dorothy Parker was 4'11"??? Wow -- never knew that. Of course, I always see people at eye-level, which may be the advantage of being tall (even if I've shrunk an inch-and-a-quarter, according to my last bone density scan).

Posted by: ftb3 | November 2, 2010 3:12 PM | Report abuse

ImOm. BEGIN TELEGRAM Me puny 2.Send iBoy.Tx.SWAT


DNA girl, well booYA to you. And, we should have a contest on who drove the farthest to vote: me, bike, less than 1/4 mile.

Posted by: CollegeQuaParkian1 | November 2, 2010 3:12 PM | Report abuse

I like Phillip Kennicott's Civil War piece in today's post. I'm pretty sure that Frederick Law Olmstead did a great deal to persuade northerners that the South was a cultural wasteland. Or worse.

I like Olmstead, but I wonder whether I should find a similar author from, say, Germany writing about the Slavic-language parts of Europe. Or an English view of the northern US.

Posted by: DaveoftheCoonties | November 2, 2010 3:14 PM | Report abuse

Yup, the old precinct worked. That's good. I'll get that address changed sometime.

Yay, DNA girl!

Good to see you again, Gomer. How're the little Gomers?

Posted by: -bia- | November 2, 2010 3:25 PM | Report abuse

I voted back on October 23rd just to make sure, but I saved my sticker to wear today. I had to drive down the backroads of Jessup to find the pre-voting place in some obscure community center. I can see my normal polling place out my back window (just like Sarah and Russia), but it's nearly a mile by car or bike rather than crow.

Posted by: yellojkt | November 2, 2010 3:26 PM | Report abuse

Well, I guess I'd ask three of them to the prom. That's 50%.

Posted by: curmudgeon6 | November 2, 2010 3:31 PM | Report abuse

Ummmm, Ray's Hell Burgers sounds fun. If we have time, we might try to find it. Thanks.


Posted by: jp1954 | November 2, 2010 3:32 PM | Report abuse

DoC, that Kennicott piece is from the future!

The Civil War taught us to fight for the right to be wrong

By Philip Kennicott
Washington Post Staff Writer
Sunday, November 7, 2010

Posted by: MoftheMountain | November 2, 2010 3:35 PM | Report abuse

Oh, crap, what a wasted opportunity. Kennicott could have told us who won.

Posted by: curmudgeon6 | November 2, 2010 3:38 PM | Report abuse

Ray's Hell Burger is awesome! I used to have a Father's Day tradition of Burgers and Bicycling and we did RHB one year. My wife ended up at the pho place next door, but us he-men loved the burgers.

Posted by: yellojkt | November 2, 2010 3:40 PM | Report abuse

Got 14 of 16 Lincoln questions right. Missed the patent and the debate questions.

(Spoiler alert: Lincoln's wife was NOT named Hillary Rodham Lincoln.)

Posted by: curmudgeon6 | November 2, 2010 3:48 PM | Report abuse

I offer belated thanks to Mr. and Mrs. Yellojkt for giving me and the ScienceKids a ride home on Saturday! It was great to see you all at the BPH.

Posted by: ScienceSpouse | November 2, 2010 3:48 PM | Report abuse

In the Kennicott piece, third graf in has a major date mistake. Any Civil War Centennial Commission held prior to the last big anniversary would have been in 1958, not 1968.

Posted by: talitha1 | November 2, 2010 3:54 PM | Report abuse

Well hey. if you're looking for altitude, here are the 5 footers- Mary-Kate Olsen, Natalie Wood, Helen Hayes, Pia Zadora, Pat Benatar, Pola Negri, and Dolly Parton.

Posted by: kguy1 | November 2, 2010 3:58 PM | Report abuse

Speaking of the WaPo ombudsman, according to Tom Scocca of Slate, Andrew Alexander is hardly burning up the internet with his online blog. There have been four items in the past two months.

Today's discusses WaPo splicing together some bear videos they found on YouTube and putting them on the front page.

Posted by: yellojkt | November 2, 2010 3:59 PM | Report abuse

re: Georgia Brown's. Food is good but it is LOUD. And come hungry.

Posted by: chiquita2 | November 2, 2010 4:05 PM | Report abuse

I really *hate* loud restaurants, where you have to scream across the table to be heard, and then all you hear is "what?" "whatcha say?". It's disgusting.

I've been to Georgia Brown's, but it's been a loooong time ago (10-15 years, maybe?). The food is too fatty for me, but I'm sure it's satisfying.

Gotta go prepare for a conference call. Cya.

Posted by: ftb3 | November 2, 2010 4:20 PM | Report abuse

Me! I'm five feet tall! I don't really think of myself as short. I am sometimes surprised when I look up to find I'm surrounded by four or five people whose heads are way way above mine. Literally, and sometimes figuratively as well.

When I walk up next to Ivansdad I disappear from his range of vision.

I think Mudge has it right about the dual nature (or is that Jekyll & Hyde quality) of the new WaPo/Post conglomerate.

Posted by: Ivansmom | November 2, 2010 4:24 PM | Report abuse

Faxing the Boy to CqP. He'll stop by your place too, ftb. He works for popcorn.

Posted by: Ivansmom | November 2, 2010 4:26 PM | Report abuse

Kristin Chenoweth is also in the Under Five Foot Club. I got a lot of pictures of her when we saw 'Promises, Promises', but this is the one with her around people of differing height:

Posted by: yellojkt | November 2, 2010 4:27 PM | Report abuse

It might be the latest dispatch from a key state, but is it about an issue anyone cares about?

Apparently this sponsor got his 4000 signatures and Denver is now voting on setting up Extraterrestrial Affair Commissions "to protect residents from 'potential encounters or interactions with extraterrestrial intelligent beings or their vehicles.'"

See Washington State? You could have made a farce of your election too, but you lacked vision. And 240,000-some signatures.

Posted by: MoftheMountain | November 2, 2010 4:28 PM | Report abuse

I am almost 4'11"

Posted by: Moose13 | November 2, 2010 4:45 PM | Report abuse

If WaPo needs more bear videos for the front page, they could do worse than this adorable family up in a tree:

Posted by: yellojkt | November 2, 2010 4:54 PM | Report abuse

What flavor popcorn, Imom? Does he like hot sauce on it?

Posted by: ftb3 | November 2, 2010 4:54 PM | Report abuse

Hi Moose!

I'm also a tiny human. "No bigger than a minute," as one of the shop techs used to say. I tend to work with really big vehicles too, so I'm generally eye to eye with tire tread or the bottom of a door.

Posted by: MoftheMountain | November 2, 2010 5:14 PM | Report abuse

If that is their strategy, it isn't working. Find me one conservative who respects the WaPo coverage of anything. Other than the Op/Ed page being a halfway house for wayward neocons, the wingnuts still see the Post as part of the mythical Mainstream Liberal Media.

Posted by: yellojkt | November 2, 2010 5:15 PM | Report abuse

I prefer the term sue-nami. Perhaps the Senate could be 50 GOP, 49 Dem/Ind and a hung too close to call in Nevada.

That would be a sue-nami.

Posted by: baldinho | November 2, 2010 5:40 PM | Report abuse

Yep, yellojkt, that's the problem. Appeasement is a perilous marketing strategy. Your old base doesn't know you anymore, and the target audience still doesn't trust you. Nobody's happy and market share continues to plummet.

I think any flavor popcorn will do. No hot sauce required.

Posted by: Ivansmom | November 2, 2010 5:41 PM | Report abuse

It's fairly easy to find a good restaurant in Washington around the White House. The Mc&S is very good and I had a fine meal at an Indian restaurant (forgot the name...) that was litteraly in the shadow of the Obamas' house.

Swift Current SK is a more difficult challenge. This is the land of the iceberg lettuce and the plastic tomato. Rouleau/Dog River is a charming little town. The roads are mostly paved and people make an effort to keed it pretty. There is only one eating place outside of the tourist season: Lisa's Cafe. They were a little overwhelmed as one of the village's business was holding its annual "yard sale". A local farm machinery dealer was liquidating its remaining stock in an auction. I had to wait 15 minutes for my hamburger steak. The ordeals I have to go through. An old uncle was chatting up the customers and the kid of the waitress was bouncing a superball around. I understand why Corner Gas was filmed there. It's close to a fair sized city and it is the flattest place I've seen. The 30km dirt road for the main highway is straight as an arrow and has no discernable grade. It can't get flatter outside of the Great Salt Lake.

Yullertown is a mudhole *spitting on the ground*. They had about 2 feet of snow last week and the unpaved roads were a mixture of ice and mud. The little rental car was barely a match for the throughs digged by the humongous pickups most people are driving. They'll bless me when I return the formerly blue car.

Posted by: shrieking_denizen | November 2, 2010 5:59 PM | Report abuse

Bombay Club, probably.

That is one of the finest descriptions of rural Sask. I've read in a long time.

But shriek, if you had time to eat at Palomino, there was time for a mini-BPH. I'm a little bit cross.

Posted by: Yoki | November 2, 2010 6:11 PM | Report abuse

Cowhand, I agree with your description.

I was listening to some candidates on the radio a few days ago. None had anything like *real* experience, even for a job that doesn't call for much.

What a way to elect people to run the U.S.

What if other jobs filled positions this way? Elect X for Nuclear Scientist!

Posted by: -dbG- | November 2, 2010 6:15 PM | Report abuse

Hey, I'm four eleven and a half. That's on my tall days, we don't discuss it on the short days.

Loving the election comments here, and I think Mudge is correct about WaPo. Wouldn't Kartharine Graham be disappointed? (See, I know enough to spell her name correctly. I even own her Pulitzer Prize-winning bood.)

Conference is now two-thirds over, yay! I get to go home tomorrow afternoon and sleep in my very own bed tomorrow night. Double yay!

Lots more interest in elections in an off year here, too. I voted early and wore the sticker proudly. It said I Voted Early. I'm not happy about the Repubs taking the House, but as long as that's the extent of the damage I'll be okay with it. My sister in law made a snide remark about repealing health care reform at the family picnic. How nice that they can try.

Posted by: slyness | November 2, 2010 6:25 PM | Report abuse

You are absolutely right, the Bombay (Mumbai?) Club.

The Calgary stop came in Sunday afternoon, while I was doing the osso bucco. My excellent shedule was cancelled by the WJ people and this horror (12 hours transit) was put together over the phone while I was drinking a decent Chardonney. I read the details Monday morning (1.5 hours wait in TO and just short of 2 in Calgary) after they sent the e-mail during the night.
I'm famously averse to security check dear Yoki. I'm constantly selected for special searches because they know nothing will come out of it. They either see my inspector badge or I travel with the "green" Canadian gunmint passport but I get picked a solid 75% of the time for special attention. Just because "they" know nothing will come out of it. How effing stupid is that? I'm polite and civil about it but I hate it.

Sorry about that. I will try to do better next year. I'll be scheduling something that WILL go through YYC. Olds, how far is it from Oil Central ?

Posted by: shrieking_denizen | November 2, 2010 6:32 PM | Report abuse

yello, the problem with the Post to the partisan right isn't that they don't have enough GOP pundits. They have more than just about anyone else. The problem is that the Post has DEM pundits. Most GOP papers I read have none. It is a shock to the GOP partisans.

Posted by: baldinho | November 2, 2010 6:35 PM | Report abuse

DNA Girl... your 1:48 PM post made me a little teary-eyed. Good for you... and WELCOME!

I always marvel at the fact that we can vote without fear. As Andy Borowitz pointed out today, Americans vote and there are no tanks in the street--because they're all in Afghanistan.

Posted by: -TBG- | November 2, 2010 6:37 PM | Report abuse

Your apology is accepted :)

Olds is just under 100 km north of Calgary, so a very easy drive.

Posted by: Yoki | November 2, 2010 6:37 PM | Report abuse

Goodness Shriek I hope you got a special discount for that itinerary.

Firefox tells me that is the correct spelling for itinerary always have to check that word never looks correct whichever way I spell it.

Posted by: dmd3 | November 2, 2010 6:40 PM | Report abuse

The palette of beige in SK at this time of year is quite incredible. From pale yellow to brown everything is covered. It is a bit snarky but true. And it is actually quite nice.

The bird sanctuary at Chaplin was closed as they were rebuilding a road that washed out in the Spring flooding. Grrrrrrr. I stopped at Reed Lake but then, all the plovers and most of the ducks were gone. Note to self: must built inspection agenda more carefully.

Posted by: shrieking_denizen | November 2, 2010 6:42 PM | Report abuse

DNA_girl congratulations on your first voting experience, did DNA_guy vote for the first time via absentee ballet?

Posted by: dmd3 | November 2, 2010 6:48 PM | Report abuse

Of course, I mean first US voting experience.

Posted by: dmd3 | November 2, 2010 6:49 PM | Report abuse

A top surfer on the pro circuit, Andy Irons of Australia, was too ill to participate in a contest over the weekend in Puerto Rico, and became too ill to continue flying home to Hawai'i. He checked into a Dallas hotel room and died. He, like others on the circuit, was an extraordinarily fit athlete.

Wikipedia is already in the past tense.

Posted by: DaveoftheCoonties | November 2, 2010 7:05 PM | Report abuse

Just remembered how to spell it ballot - I am more challenged than normal this evening.

Posted by: dmd3 | November 2, 2010 7:08 PM | Report abuse

I was walking out of the station this evening, and I realized that the venerable WaPo has been ducking a very important story: with 793 - 1,124.5 seats set to be taken in the House, where will people sit? Will the folks who got voted in because they said they wouldn't stand for things any longer still be able to get anything done? Could be quite the case of buyer's remorse if they end up not getting in the seat of power.....

And what are they doing with all those old chairs anyway, I could use a new one for the computer desk in my apartment. I'm sure they'd make a nice addition to the bunker for posterity's sake too. I'll have to keep an eye out on Ebay or Craigslist, I suppose.

Posted by: lostnspace | November 2, 2010 7:09 PM | Report abuse

Rand Paul wins Kentucky. Sigh.

Posted by: -TBG- | November 2, 2010 7:17 PM | Report abuse

Oh TBG, I so didn't need to read that! We're in a self imposed TV free zone tonight, I just don't want to hear all the carp. Voted on the way home from work and it was, if not crowded, at least very very busy. A lot of customers today were discussing having voted and how sick to death they are with the ads and calls.

One of the young men I work with said he doesn't vote, doesn't see the point because all pols are like used car salesmen. Very discouraging to hear him talk. But he's young and rather immature, so there's time for him to get wise ;-)

Congrats DNA_Girl. Mudge, in case you missed it from the last Kit, I loved your Don Diego Posttoasti, just silly enough to make me smile.

Posted by: badsneakers | November 2, 2010 7:24 PM | Report abuse

Admit it TBG, it's quite funny that a poor state elects someone who would cut off a large slice of state revenue if he had his ways. Kentucky wouldn't be poor anymore but destitute and people vote for it. They'll also find themselves short on moutain tops, as they are a proven obstacle in the extraction of coal. Democracy at its best.

Posted by: shrieking_denizen | November 2, 2010 7:34 PM | Report abuse

OOps. Sorry, Bad Sneaks. It's kind of like how I can't read the boodle while watching Redskin games because we're usually watching about a half hour behind real time.

Posted by: -TBG- | November 2, 2010 7:37 PM | Report abuse

Rand Paul in Kentucky, is it? That's unfortunate. I have a great deal of theoretical respect for the libertarian viewpoint (and rather enjoy his father's brand of BS) but it's going to be a problem in the already obstructive body of the U.S. Senate.

Posted by: cowhand214 | November 2, 2010 7:43 PM | Report abuse

SCC mountain tops, between others. OK. I'm off for a while.

Posted by: shrieking_denizen | November 2, 2010 7:43 PM | Report abuse

SCC mountain tops, between others. OK. I'm off for a while.

Posted by: shrieking_denizen | November 2, 2010 7:43 PM | Report abuse

Coons wins the Delaware Senate!!! Shocking, I know... :-)

Posted by: Scottynuke | November 2, 2010 8:10 PM | Report abuse

I personally don't find Rand Paul too offensive. I don't have an issue with him in the Senate. Different strokes for different folks. He is quirky. I don't think he is mean-spirited. He will give the GOP leadership fits.

Posted by: baldinho | November 2, 2010 8:12 PM | Report abuse

SCC: The Delaware Senate race, of course...

Posted by: Scottynuke | November 2, 2010 8:16 PM | Report abuse

Not your fault TBG, I should get off the Boodle for a while tonight if I don't want to see any results - altho' I must say I was pleased but not surprised about Coons. Later...

Posted by: badsneakers | November 2, 2010 8:20 PM | Report abuse

My thoughts on Rand Paul are likely based on two points. 1) I kind of like his father. He is quirky and funny and... honorable. 2) at this time in history, Kentucky could very well have sent someone much worse than Rand Paul.

Posted by: baldinho | November 2, 2010 8:22 PM | Report abuse

Baldi, many years in the future this scene: baby Baldino will not be voting so close to the 18th b-day and age of majority...

NOW:CeePeeBoy misses the voting by days,though he received his voting card in the mail last week....but, his friend,the dear and valiant AF voted today, though s/he was born at 11:50 PM, 18 years ago. So, technically s/he is not yet 18 by the clock. We (the mommies) were both in line, very preggers years ago. AF's mommy excused herself to go home and birth a baybee,rather than votie...

And,this troubling news about robo calls saying that Martie O'Malley had won, though polls were still open::::

Posted by: CollegeQuaParkian1 | November 2, 2010 8:47 PM | Report abuse

I'm happy to see Coons won, and still pulling for Sestak. Toomey will not represent me any more than Santorum did and he embodies what I think of as the worst of the Republican party.

Posted by: -dbG- | November 2, 2010 9:01 PM | Report abuse

Rand Paul is a shady character. Rather than join the legitimate medical groups, he sets up alternative groups who are just him and his cronies. Look for future scandals to come out about him.

Posted by: yellojkt | November 2, 2010 9:08 PM | Report abuse

I like zooming in and looking at the blue dots in all the red states. Urban and/or university areas all.

Posted by: DNA_Girl | November 2, 2010 9:08 PM | Report abuse

Daughter and I are celebrating the election of Greek-American Alexi Giannoulias in Illinois by watching adorable Greek-American comedian Demetri Martin...

Got a pest problem you want to get rid of? Do it the old-fashioned way...

Posted by: -TBG- | November 2, 2010 9:08 PM | Report abuse

Well, I made it back from England and had a great time. Even though I came back with not one but two sprained ankles caused, I think, by walking too much in sneakers that were a little too old. Sitting on an airplane for eight hours didn't help, either. Anyway I'm in a world of hurt and went to the doc for some relief. She gave me a prescription for an anti-inflammatory drug and I think it's beginning to work. [Anyone about to eat dinner might want to skip to the next paragraph. This drug lists as one of its serious side effects requiring immediate medical attention "vomit that looks like coffee grounds." Ya think?]

Anyway, in addition to seeing a bunch of museums, I saw Jeff Beck at Royal Albert Hall. That was a lot of fun! He appeared with a string orchestra along with the standard bass, keyboards, and drums. He played several tracks from his new album, such as "Nessun Dorma," which includes the string orchestra, and did his arrangement of "A Day in the Life," in which Albert Hall makes a guest appearance.

If any of you goes to London and has an interest in World War II, you need to go to the Churchill War Rooms and the Churchill Museum. The War Rooms are a warren of offices underground a couple of blocks from 10 Downing Street. They have been left pretty much as they were at the end of the war. You can see the room where the war cabinet met, the map rooms, and various other rooms where the civilian and military staff stayed. The Churchill Museum, part of the same compound, is stunning. You can spend two days there, I think. There are multimedia displays where you can hear excerpts from some of Churchill's famous speeches, a world of information about Churchill's life, including a tabletop video display where you can select a year and a series of folders open up and you can look at his activities during a given month of that year and can bring up copies of original documents regarding those events. We were there for four hours and it was nowhere near enough.

Posted by: -pj- | November 2, 2010 9:12 PM | Report abuse

Congrats, DNA_Girl! That's great!

Posted by: -pj- | November 2, 2010 9:14 PM | Report abuse

Welcome back. London is very cool. I missed the Churchill Rooms. I will have to catch them on the next try.

Posted by: yellojkt | November 2, 2010 9:17 PM | Report abuse

Welcome back pj.
I haven't been to London in about 5 years. That's far too long. And the Churchill War Rooms are definitely on the list now, thanks.

Posted by: DNA_Girl | November 2, 2010 9:21 PM | Report abuse

Where is Bob-S? I'm thinking he would have some corrective thinking for us. And we've not seen him in a really long time.

Posted by: Yoki | November 2, 2010 9:36 PM | Report abuse

Gack - not going to be a fun night for reasonable people, I don't think. (Sneaks, avert your eyes.)

Ron Paul has some integrity - at least he's against war - but he goes off the deep end with monetary policy. Rand Paul doesn't have the integrity, just kooky ideas. And he can do lots more damage as a senator than his dad ever did.


Posted by: seasea1 | November 2, 2010 9:38 PM | Report abuse

Was it Bob that was going on vacation?

I noticed a retweet from David Frum, Frum stating that Rand Pauls presidential campaign begins now. Have I apoligized for David Frum lately?

A little levity for you all tonight, once again rereading a diary of my grandfathers, he is commenting on a political book he has just read, among his critisisms, the authors lack of having an "english expert" review the manuscript.

Posted by: dmd3 | November 2, 2010 9:45 PM | Report abuse

Hey, what happened to the counters by the comments?

I may have to go cheer myself up with leftover Halloween candy...

Posted by: seasea1 | November 2, 2010 10:03 PM | Report abuse

This afternoon, I was looking longingly at cheap airfares to London. I think the closest I'll get for a while is St. Augustine.

Here's a creepy Blitz story from the Guardian:

The 2008 movie comedy "Miss Pettigrew Lives for a Day" features a glitzy, purportedly bomb-resistant night club like one whose stage was hit during the Blitz. The performers were vaporized and the customers, dead and injured, were stripped of their jewelry and money by the time rescuers arrived (I think that's fide Eric Foner).

Posted by: DaveoftheCoonties | November 2, 2010 10:10 PM | Report abuse

Well, Oklahoma voters have just signed us on for a world of hurt next fiscal year. Prepare for deep, deep budget cuts and massive confusion. At least the lame proposal to tie our education funding to that of regional states failed - that would have been pure disaster.

I hope BobS is on vacation, and not something more sinister.

Time to go to bed before the election returns get even worse. I'll see the rest of the bad news in the morning.

Posted by: Ivansmom | November 2, 2010 10:16 PM | Report abuse

I dared to look at the Boston Globe site and was pleased to see that Gov. Patrick has won another term, as has Coakley (she of the failed Senate bid which gave us Mr. Empty Suit), Barney Frank, and the Democratic candidate for Congress here in our district is ahead. So, altho' I'm sure the results country-wide probably won't be stellar, at least MA hasn't gone stark raving bonkers!

PJ, welcome home, sorry about your ankles, but good to have you back. Yes, where is Bob?

I spent the evening making a vat of vegetable soup. I feel very virtuous now ;-)

Posted by: badsneakers | November 2, 2010 10:36 PM | Report abuse

Neither, it would appear, has Maryland, Sneaks. My wonderful Senator, Barbara Mikulski, soared to victory, as has our Governor, Martin O'Malley, who prevailed over our immediate past Rethuglican governor, Bob ("Bobby Haircut" -- another empty suit) Ehrlich. Don't know about my Congressman yet, but frankly, I'm gonna go to bed, thankful that odious and stupid TV ads are done until the next cycle (starting, alas, momentarily).

Sleep well, all. Dream sweet dreams -- it only aggravates the other guys, and makes it all worthwhile.

Posted by: ftb3 | November 2, 2010 10:46 PM | Report abuse

shrieking_denizen, North Carolina had the worse-than-useless Jesse Helms as senator for a long time. He didn't seem to block the state's economic rise, which had been engineered by the likes of Terry Sanford (governor and later president of Duke) and "Skipper" Bowles (Sanford's development guy and father of Erskine, Clinton's chief of staff and later president of the University of North Carolina (the entire state university system).

Back to Kentucky, Sen. McConnell seems to represent a bunch of business interests rather than the state. I guess residents who want health care or schools can emigrate to other states.

Posted by: DaveoftheCoonties | November 2, 2010 10:49 PM | Report abuse

No high speed rail for Florida. Our new Republican governor is sure to renounce the $2 billion in Federal funds. Not to mention there'll be massive resistance to the Affordable Care Act. But space and defense money will be welcome.

Sen.-elect Marco Rubio's already on the presidential mentionable list. If he's serious, he'd better work on emphasizing that he was born in Miami, not Cuba.

Posted by: DaveoftheCoonties | November 2, 2010 11:00 PM | Report abuse


Posted by: Yoki | November 2, 2010 11:22 PM | Report abuse

Two Florida constitutional amendments, to require nonpartisan redistricting of the Legislature and Congressional districts, might get the 60% of the vote they need.

A commercial in favor of gerrymandering was perhaps the most shameless thing I've seen.

Posted by: DaveoftheCoonties | November 2, 2010 11:33 PM | Report abuse

My sentiments are in line with Yoki's 11:22 though of course I can neither confirm nor deny my support for such a statement.

It was an interesting evening here in my neighborhood. A police officer serving a warrant was shot and the suspect himself was shot in turn, and from what I've heard has now died. The officer himself, again from what I've heard, is out of surgery and doing well though his condition is critical. This is all word of mouth so who knows.

This all just happened right down the street so the neighborhood is in a bit of an uproar. I don't think I've ever seen so many police cars in one place.

It seems Gov. Patrick is slated to win here (which I am pleased about). His opponent looked . . . tweedy.

It will be a whole new set of lies starting tomorrow (who's excited?) but I must admit I'm looking forward to watching Rand Paul negotiate the United States Senate. It should be a treat.

Posted by: cowhand214 | November 3, 2010 12:34 AM | Report abuse

Headdesk, headdesk, headdesk. I'm deeply disappointed in Pennsylvania. I'd move if it wouldn't make my commute impossible.

Low turnout. Ivansmom put the results of Oklahoma far more charitably than I would of Pennsylvania's. The reactionaries are here. One can only hope that in 2 years, when they're accomplished none of their goals, they're voted out too.

This isn't why I'm not a sports fan, but it's enough to make me realize that I'd spend half my life depressed if I were.

Dionne is good.

Posted by: -dbG- | November 3, 2010 5:04 AM | Report abuse

Headdesk, headdesk, headdesk. I'm deeply disappointed in Pennsylvania. I'd move if it wouldn't make my commute impossible.

Low turnout. Ivansmom put the results of Oklahoma far more charitably than I would of Pennsylvania's. The reactionaries are here. One can only hope that in 2 years, when they're accomplished none of their goals, they're voted out too.

This isn't why I'm not a sports fan, but it's enough to make me realize that I'd spend half my life depressed if I were.

Dionne is good.

Posted by: -dbG- | November 3, 2010 5:04 AM | Report abuse

Moveable type sensed I needed that posted twice. Thanks, little computer app buddy.

SCC: I know they're in office for more than 2 years. I meant the TP movement and socially conservative Republicans as groups.

Posted by: -dbG- | November 3, 2010 5:07 AM | Report abuse

God loves us so much more than we can imagine through Him that died for all, Jesus Christ.

Good morning, friends. I was the third person to vote at my precint yesterday, got there at 6:30am. Also took a young woman to the polls right before they closed so she could vote. Our young folks don't pay voting any attention, and that is not good.

Richmond County, N.C. has its first African-American sheriff. He got over 60% of the vote.

Congratulations, DNA girl.

The Washington Post seems to make a big deal out of the Democrats losses and a hooray thing out of the Republicans victories. I thought newspapers are suppose to be neutral? Silly me, falling off the turnip truck again. I'm going to need a pillow if that keeps up!

Slyness, it's downright cold here this morning. I'm so tempted to turn the heat on, but I refuse. Too soon.

We're having a community prayer this afternoon for our residents. We're pretty much shaken on the loss of our neighbors. Please join us in spirit.

Have a perky day, folks, and love to all.

Posted by: cmyth4u | November 3, 2010 6:24 AM | Report abuse

Anyone want to take the baldinho challenge?

For every dollar in spending cuts the GOP House proposes, you get one of my dollars. For every dollar in tax cuts they propose, I get one of your dollars.

Note to GOP: cutting taxes does not lower the deficit.

Posted by: baldinho | November 3, 2010 6:25 AM | Report abuse

'morning all. Nate Silver over at the 538 blog made me laugh. He concluded his live reporting of the elections by "Only 460 days until the Iowa caucus!" It is unfortunately so true.

Posted by: shrieking_denizen | November 3, 2010 7:17 AM | Report abuse

And the 2012 presidential campaign kicks off with a completely context free guest editorial by Mitt Romney.

Don't people usually have to pay for ads?

Posted by: yellojkt | November 3, 2010 7:23 AM | Report abuse

Dead Trees Picture Watch
Front Page: Rubio (R,winner); Vitter(R,winner); O'Malley(D,winner-very large picture)

Election Section
Front Page: Rand (R,winner)
Page A21: Periello (D, loser)
Page A22: Hoyer, Pelosi, Van Hollen (all Ds and winners)
Page A23: Bennet (D, too close to call); Reid (D, winner)
Page A25: Haley (R, winner); Cuomo (D, winner)
A30: O'Malley (D, winner); Ehrlich (R, loser)
A31: Harris (R, winner); Pelosi and Van Hollen (both D, both winners)
A33: Connelly (D); Fimian (R) too close to call

Posted by: yellojkt | November 3, 2010 7:35 AM | Report abuse

Although I didn't subject myself to too much election coverage, I did note one completely sense-free statement on CNN, from a Kirk Kirkson (or something like that). He suggested the GOP kept running old white men and women, while the Tea Party offered a more diverse slate of candidates.

Exsqueeze me?

Carl Paladino -- old angry white guy
Rand Paul -- middle-aged white guy
Joe Miller -- middle-aged white guy
Ken Buck -- late-middle-age moderately coherent white guy
Sharron Angle -- old angry incoherent white woman
Christine O'Donnell -- young incoherent white woman
Nikki Haley -- OK, she's neither white nor incoherent, I'll give you that.

*getting-ready-for-a-quick-biz-trip Grover waves* :-)

Posted by: Scottynuke | November 3, 2010 7:41 AM | Report abuse

The results of this election worries me less than some of the underlying characteristics. First, I am worried that the composition of the electorate is wildly inconsistent. A different part of America showed up for this election than showed up two years ago.

A lot of people who supported Obama appear to have stayed home. I suspect that some of this is due to disillusionment by starry-eyed voters who expected things to instantly become a Progressive Utopia. But I think a lot is because many of the people who voted for Obama are less interested in the progressive agenda and were more interested in seeing Obama in the White House. Once that goal had been achieved, they lost interest.

On the other hand, those who did show up tended to be the ones who were Highly Motivated, which appears to have favored older conservatives. And, of course, I suspect a lot of people who showed up did so less out of ideology and more out of frustration. Things aren't going well and a protest vote is the only real tool they have, even if they know, on some level, that this isn't going to help.

All of this concerns me because these attitudes seem more appropriate to professional sports fans than a thoughtful electorate.

Posted by: RD_Padouk | November 3, 2010 8:18 AM | Report abuse

With Palin out of the running, Nikki Haley is now the top GILF. Although Christine Gregoire does run a real close second. No disrespect meant towards to Jan Brewer or Beverly Perdue. And sorry, Ivansmom, as freaky as the rumors about Mary Fallin may be, that is more crazy than I can deal with.

Posted by: yellojkt | November 3, 2010 8:22 AM | Report abuse

Indeed, RD_P, there seemed to be a large component of "magical thinking" in the vote. *SIGH*

Posted by: Scottynuke | November 3, 2010 8:37 AM | Report abuse

Good morning, Boodlies!
Obviously the Dems failed to consult Chilean politicians and Prez Piñera who has a 73% aproval rating.

The advice from Santiago is this:
1.- Ya gotta rescue sumptin.
2.- You gotta rescue sumptin else.
3.- Keep rescuing.

Here are some suggestions if ye don´t have 33 miners.

Rescue the economy.
Rescue the militay from the sand trap
Rescue Obama who is held hostage in the White House.

If all that fails, ask Brazil how to fix economy. Ask Russia how to get out of sand trap. As to rescuing Obama, I have a slightly used Fenix capsule.

Brag :)

Posted by: Braguine | November 3, 2010 8:39 AM | Report abuse

Phew! It coulda been worse! At least Reid won, which I was very worried about, not because I'm a big fan, but Angle scares the carp out of me. Here in MA, we stayed true blue. The Democratic candidate won the seat in Congress here in our district, keeping all of our reps Democrats.

RD, you make a good point about the lack of thoughtfulness. I hope this begins to change once people see the results of what they voted for.

First morning below freezing here. A dusting of frost on the lawns - just last week it was in the 70's. Only five months til Spring!

Posted by: badsneakers | November 3, 2010 8:43 AM | Report abuse

Morning y'all. Overcast and frosty in the valley.

I was amused by Hank Stuever's piece on TV's election night coverage. I refrained from any viewing except Stewart/Colbert myself. Two Steuver quotes:

"Flip, flip, flip. CNN's set has come to resemble a crowded and expensive steak house where they serve nothing but gristle at two communal tables, with seats divvied up among Bill Bennett, James Carville, Mary Matalin, Donna Brazile and Eliot Spitzer, talking much too much, earning glares from his tablemates."
"I watched for occasional enlightenment but also for the opportunities for frequent scoffing, and I hope you did, too. There is no crime in noticing how much makeup one has to wear to appear on Fox, to yet again admire the on-point, data-rich intelligence of Rachel Maddow ..."

Posted by: talitha1 | November 3, 2010 9:15 AM | Report abuse

Morning y'all. Overcast and frosty in the valley.

I was amused by Hank Stuever's piece on TV's election night coverage. I refrained from any viewing except Stewart/Colbert myself. Two Steuver quotes:

"Flip, flip, flip. CNN's set has come to resemble a crowded and expensive steak house where they serve nothing but gristle at two communal tables, with seats divvied up among Bill Bennett, James Carville, Mary Matalin, Donna Brazile and Eliot Spitzer, talking much too much, earning glares from his tablemates."
"I watched for occasional enlightenment but also for the opportunities for frequent scoffing, and I hope you did, too. There is no crime in noticing how much makeup one has to wear to appear on Fox, to yet again admire the on-point, data-rich intelligence of Rachel Maddow ..."

Posted by: talitha1 | November 3, 2010 9:16 AM | Report abuse

Sorry! Two for one submit on that one.

Posted by: talitha1 | November 3, 2010 9:18 AM | Report abuse

Morning all. Two hours till this madness is over and I can go HOME!

Can you tell I'm excited about it?

Actually, it's been a good conference, although we only had 45 people pay to come. Two years ago, we had 181...that's what the economy did to construction of fire stations. I hope we don't lose our shirts over it, which requires the hotel to be merciful.

I suppose we can be grateful the election outcome isn't worse than it is. At least the President got some of his agenda passed. My House district is a lost cause until Sue Myrick decides not to run again...oh well.

PJ, next time you have to go to London, let me know and I'll come with you. Wouldn't it be fun to have a group of Boodlers loose in that town? I figure it would take me 3 to 4 months to see all I want to see in that part of the world. But then you folks know what an Anglophile I am.

Hi Cassandra! I haven't been out yet, but I'm okay with cool weather. It *is* November. I do have to bring in all the plants when I get home, it's supposed to be in the upper 20's this weekend.

Posted by: slyness | November 3, 2010 9:23 AM | Report abuse

Oh yes, welcome back pj and I'm ridiculously frenvious of your Beck @ Albert hall fun.

Posted by: Scottynuke | November 3, 2010 9:59 AM | Report abuse

Now THIS IS BAD news....fears about cotton crops in the other hemisphere are causing cotton prices to rise dramatically. Just think, it'll affect T-shirts, jeans, socks, whether a garmet needs thread to sew on buttons--the list goes on and on. More polyester and acrylic in fabric blends and less cotton.

Undies that are gotten up into bunches by excess worry will probably be old undies, since folks will be reluctant to buy new ones.

Really, what's the world coming to?

Posted by: laloomis | November 3, 2010 10:01 AM | Report abuse

My random observations on the recent unpleasantness-

The country is deeply divided along urban\rural lines. Look at the statewide races in Pa., Ca., Nev., Colo., etc. Democrats win cities and not much else. This does not bode well for the future either for the party or the country as a whole.

The truly crazy flaky nutjobs lost and most lost badly. Paladino lost. O'Donnell lost, Angle lost. Miller probably lost. I find this encouraging.

After Lieberman in 2006 and now Murkowski in 2010, political parties may have to seriously reexamine the way they conduct primaries and select candidates.

Alvin Greene received over 350,000 votes for the Senate in S.C. I find this bizarre and troubling. If you don't want to vote for DeMint I understand, but Alvin Greene? Why not write in Mickey Mouse and be done with it?

Despite an ocean of money, Fiorina and Whitman lost. Being loaded should not be a requirement for office.

The polls have been closed for over 12 hours and the budget has not been balanced, the wars have not been won, and the unemployment rate is still unacceptable. What does that Boehner think he's doing? He'd better watch out. 2012 is just around the corner and we just might feel like taking our country back again!

Posted by: kguy1 | November 3, 2010 10:33 AM | Report abuse

Wow, some easy ones and some puzzlers here:

Posted by: Scottynuke | November 3, 2010 10:41 AM | Report abuse

Howdy y'all. Gloomy here, though the day looks to be fine. I agree with RD's thoughtful analysis of the underlying trends. Kguy also said it well. People are voting without thinking, voting along rural/urban lines (an Oklahoma tradition of long standing), voting without consideration of the issues.

Oklahoma (blush) passed a state question prohibiting the adoption or use of Sharia law in Oklahoma courts. Of course, that isn't used now and, given our statutory and constitutional requirements regarding laws, won't be.It was a pointless measure, destined to be part of the clutter clogging our already bloated 242-page Constitution. However, the mere fact that it was on the ballot convinced some people that it was a fer-or-agin - that if you voted "no", it must mean you thought we should adopt Sharia law. So they voted yes.

yellojkt, I'm with you. Mary's a nice lady and keeps herself in shape, but I wouldn't recommend you go there.

Posted by: Ivansmom | November 3, 2010 10:46 AM | Report abuse

Voters are holding all politicians to the standard of economic well being. That does not bode well for incumbents, regardless of party, for as far as the eye can see. We are entering a new phase with worldwide short supply of petroleum keeping a cap on economic growth no matter how those in power throw the levers or twist the dials.

Right now, we only have two keys to try to unlock the cornucopia and it looks like we will be switching them back and forth for a while until the reality of our energy situation sinks in or something unexpected happens.

Posted by: edbyronadams | November 3, 2010 11:05 AM | Report abuse

I feel confident that not one of the useless, ill-informed, unprepared people that were elected this year will lose their jobs in two years. Furthermore, every single one of them will discover that he/she has not become corrupted like the career politicians that make Washington so vile, and so each one needs to stay in office indefinitely so as to continue the drive towards the purification of Washington and releasing it from the moneyed grasp of the wealthy liberal elite that does not care about the problems of ordinary folks who would make millions, were they not held back by liberal taxation policies.

They will be able to accomplish these feats by (a) not being permitted to accomplish one iota of their insane agendas, being stopped by the Senate and by the remaining slightly sane and sort of moderate branch of their own party in the House; and (b) by displaying a breathtakingly funny level of unselfconscious hypocrisy.

By virtue of not accomplishing anything other than to vote against bills that actually try to accomplish something, they will contribute to gridlock, which supports their belief that Congress does not do its job. Simultaneously, the lack of accomplishment means that no one can point to one of their bills and say "I have suffered as a consequence of that action," because nothing that they propose will make it into law.

In 2012, on the other hand, we will all find ourselves surrounded by the wicker of a nicely-crafted handbasket, wondering why the temperature and the smell of brimstone are increasing.

Posted by: ScienceTim | November 3, 2010 11:21 AM | Report abuse

Is there some law requiring that all Washington State election results end in 50/50 deadlocks requiring endless recounts and numerous lawsuits?

Posted by: yellojkt | November 3, 2010 11:24 AM | Report abuse

frosti, I'm very disappointed (but not terribly surprised) by District 6's performance... *SIGH*

Posted by: Scottynuke | November 3, 2010 11:31 AM | Report abuse

It's those giant insects living in those shanties in District 9 that worry me.

Posted by: curmudgeon6 | November 3, 2010 11:44 AM | Report abuse

"we will all find ourselves surrounded by the wicker of a nicely-crafted handbasket..."

And those baskets are made overseas in order to save money on labor costs (I'm again thinking of Vermont))...

I liked K-guy's observations.

Look at California that gave us Barbara Boxer's win, that gave Dems last night the magic number of 50. A close look at the California map shows it mighty red. Which counties went blue? Humboldt County and all couties around the Bay Area to the south of San Francisco. The populous counties that contain Santa Barbara and Los Angeles. The two counties surrounded by a sea of red--Alpine, south of Lake Tahoe, and Imperial, which is agricultural and with, no doubt, a high number of Hispanic residents. If Californians had not held Rep. Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger is such low esteem, as evidenced by his low job approval ratings, Jerry Brown probably would not be claiming the governor's mantle today. No doubt the Brown votes helped Boxer.

Despite robocalls in the past 48 hours to our home from Bill Clinton and Eva Longoria Parker, Dem. Re3p. Ciro Rodriguez lost his House seat. I've seen Ciro up close and in action and couldn't bring myself to vote for him. Local television anchors late last night stated that pretty much all the judgeships in Texas went Republican in all likelihood because so many at the polls voted a straight Republican ticket. Perry looked and sounded a litte tipsy last night when he made his victory speech from a private hunting ranch near Buda, but it was a victory party, wasn't it?

John King's maps last night were the best part of the coverage since the graphics told much of the story without a lot of verbiage. Blue in many western states around the population centers of the state, red overwhelmingly in the rural areas. A crimson, vermillion, ruby, boiling-b1ood-mad (call it what you will) seachange--or the desire for it as expressed by voters at the ballot box.

ABC Sunday show last weekend...there was an interesting comment...Huffington was it?...that fear is just another word for pain. Chris Matthews with Chuck Todd this morning about how Obama has lost the center of the country and can't afford to govern from his base of both coasts. Next two years should be interesting.

Posted by: laloomis | November 3, 2010 12:04 PM | Report abuse

For those in need of a giggle today. Note I love Mary Walsh.

Posted by: dmd3 | November 3, 2010 1:06 PM | Report abuse


I think the proper slur to use for them is "prawns." Insect is a little too polite, methinks.

Posted by: GomerGross | November 3, 2010 1:14 PM | Report abuse

The first issue on the political playlist for the lame duck session or the new Congress is the Bush era tax cuts. If gridlock stops all extension, that is a recipe for a newly enraged public. Who will they blame?

Posted by: edbyronadams | November 3, 2010 1:19 PM | Report abuse

But Gomer, I didn't want to slur them, I wanted to be respectful and politically correct. I briefly debated Prawno-Americans, until I realized the were South African, and I just couldn't make it work. I briefly considered the unwieldy Prawno-South African, with the acronym PSA, but that's already taken for "public service announcement." So it was back to Square One.

Although I acknowledge that "insect," while more polite, is a misnomer. "Alien" has unfortunate connotations, and implies creatures who drool excessively on Sigourney Weaver (something I've often considered doing myself).

You see my dilemma.

Posted by: curmudgeon6 | November 3, 2010 1:28 PM | Report abuse

@ laloomis "Obama has lost the center of the country and can't afford to govern from his base of both coasts."

I think that Obama has lost the "center" of the country both literally and figuratively. I disagree, in part, with RD's statement that "A different part of America showed up for this election than showed up two years ago." By in large, I'd suspect that a lot of the people who were first time or infrequent voters in 2008 were only marginally helpful to putting him in office. The people who actually decide general elections in this country are the Independent, socially liberal, fiscally conservative, motivated voters. They voted decisively for Obama in 2008 but now believe that he did not make a substantial-enough effort to govern from the center and instead sub-contracted much of his domestic legislative leadership to Pelosi and Reid who, whether you like them or not, are indubitably quite a bit further left than the average American voter. In the view of many (and especially in the case of the health care bill) the Democratic congress was much more interested in passing a bill than in passing a good bill. And I think that a reasonable person could extrapolate that, given a continued one party domination of Congress and the White House, a similar approach would be taken on other issues while no real action would be taken to address government spending, which is out-of-control by even the most impartial estimates.

It is without question a protest vote, and people are going to have to live with the unforeseen (and foreseen) consequences. But there are huge numbers of people who believe that the deficit/debt problem is a slow motion time bomb that will destroy this country much more certainly than even putting uninformed Tea Partyers in a temporary position of power. Based on his writings, I'd suggest that the chief boodler might even actually be one of those people.

Posted by: Awal | November 3, 2010 1:31 PM | Report abuse

No surprises here. The Citizens United verdict is more corrosive than Drano.

Posted by: kguy1 | November 3, 2010 1:57 PM | Report abuse

"Deficits don't matter." -Dick Cheney

I having a hard time believing all these born-again deficit hawks. The MSNBC crew last night was frothing at the mouth trying to get any newly elected or re-elected conservative to name one thing they would cut other than taxes (the cutting of which they may be surprised to learn doesn't exactly help the bottom line).

Rhetoric is one thing, governing another. All revenue bills must originate in the House. Let's see if they put our money where their mouth is.

Posted by: yellojkt | November 3, 2010 2:03 PM | Report abuse

I don't know whether to be amused or horrified that two years ago the Repubs were voted out of office as a protest/rejection of the Republican party and now the Dems have had the same treatment. When will the yo-yoing (yo-yo-ing? Editor, please!) end?

I do wonder if all these new congressmen will vote with the Repub block, though.

Posted by: MoftheMountain | November 3, 2010 2:07 PM | Report abuse

Some the Republican victories were retaking traditionally Republican districts which got swept up in the tide. Others were Republicans replacing DINOs who habitually voted against Obama anyways. The power swing is not as extreme as it looks.

There were several babies thrown out with the bath water and a lot of loose cannons brought into the fold. The most interesting races were Tea Partiers versus RINOs. These races split. Rubio beat Crist but it seems Murkowski will prevail over Miller.

The dark money is truly terrifying because even though I expect my congressmen to be owned by special interests, it's just nice to know who holds the papers.

Posted by: yellojkt | November 3, 2010 2:20 PM | Report abuse

Oh, I expect the freshman class of Republican congresscritters to line up behind Agent Orange on everything the new Speaker wants. Otherwise they'll find themselves as the juniorest junior member of the postage stamp design subcommittee. Senators are a different story. Because they are fewer in number and have a 6 year sell-by date, each is more powerful and more able to posture and preen for the cameras, I mean more able to take principled stands on important issues. Remember Jim Bunning single handedly blocking the extension of unemployment bennies? Think Rand Paul might like some of that spotlight?

Posted by: kguy1 | November 3, 2010 2:27 PM | Report abuse

kguy, calling him "Agent Orange" is disrespectful. He prefers to be known as an American of Orange descent.

Posted by: curmudgeon6 | November 3, 2010 2:30 PM | Report abuse


That streak of MSNBC interviews was utterly cringe-inducing. From Bachmann to Kantor to the woman from KY, none of them would even entertain the question. I give credit to Matthews for continuing to push on it. I'd certainly feel a lot better about the Republican "takeover" if one of them had the metaphorical "onions" to say "Although we're going to extend the Bush tax cuts, everything is on the table from the spending perspective, and that include Medicare, Defense, Social Security--everything."

Posted by: Awal | November 3, 2010 2:32 PM | Report abuse

By the way, all the local media are now calling the Colorado senate race for Bennet. But Buck won't concede yet.

Posted by: Awal | November 3, 2010 2:34 PM | Report abuse

And you assume that I wish to be respectful of the Ham Boner because?

Posted by: kguy1 | November 3, 2010 2:34 PM | Report abuse

kguy said "Otherwise they'll find themselves as the juniorest junior member of the postage stamp design subcommittee." Why do you think Pelosi didn't do that? And why didn't Reid try to change the ridiculous filibuster rules?

Posted by: Raysmom | November 3, 2010 2:35 PM | Report abuse

I still have a lot of ambivalence about Pelosi's leadership style and am totally disdainful of Reid's. He should be stripped of all majority party posts and let a fire breather rather than an appeaser become the head of the party. With a narrow lead there is no percentage in trying to codgel together a filibuster proof majority.

The dynamics are odd in a split Congress because the moderates really do hold the power.

Posted by: yellojkt | November 3, 2010 2:44 PM | Report abuse

I like baldinho's challenge, though I certainly won't take it. The newly elected Republicans in Congress are not going to put everything on the table. The programs which, if cut, would offer the economy the most relief are the ones popular with all constituents.

On the state level, I think, anything goes. Certainly in Oklahoma we will have a huge budget hole to make up, without Rainy Day (state savings) and federal stimulus money, both of which patched it this year. Local Republicans, including the gubernatorial winner, campaigned on cutting waste and fraud in state government and growing jobs. This is pure empty rhetoric. As most of those people knew, most state agencies have already taken 23% cuts over the last year. There is very little waste and fraud left, and it won't make much of a dent in the billion we'll be short. Growing jobs takes money, on either state services or in the form of corporate tax relief (incentives, rebates, etc). We already have another round of personal income tax cuts set to automatically kick in. We're going to have less revenue than ever.

In addition, some of the new electees here truly do believe in reducing state government, because they don't think government should be the funding source for some things. Education, for example (an interesting trick given our quirky constitutional funding mechanism, which makes education primarily state-funded). Health care, including mental health and preventive care. Social services. Our new governor did not campaign on this platform but it remains to be seen what she'll do when the bills are passed. If you're poor, a child, or old, or sick or crazy (all high percentages of our population) watch out.

Posted by: Ivansmom | November 3, 2010 2:45 PM | Report abuse

The TV people are trying to make it sound like it means something. Something other than a satanic capering tribute to nihilism, destruction and hate.

Posted by: Jumper1 | November 3, 2010 2:46 PM | Report abuse

As much as everybody pretends to hate the filibuster rules, no party will ever unilaterally disarm.

Posted by: yellojkt | November 3, 2010 2:47 PM | Report abuse

And I gotta say, if I thought the level of total bullsh-- before the election was astoundingly high, it has achieved whole new levels of BSishness in the post-election analysis. Paul Kane, Matt Kibbe, Dan Balz, Cilizza, all the talking heads except Ezra Klein.

However, I am deeply, deeply grateful to the extreme right wing of the GOP for giving the electorate O'Donnell, Buck, Paladino, Angle, Miller, and McMahon. That's an incredible SIX Senate seats they could have won easily if they'd put up halfway decent candidates. Thank you, Tea Party, thank you, Sarah Palin. America is in your debt. Well down!! Take a bow.

Whether the GOP has actually learned this lesson is unknown at this time. My money is on "no, they haven't and won't." But I could be wrong. Just think --they could had the Senate in a cakewalk.

About halfway through "Tinker, Tailor, Soldier, Spy," George Smiley says that the thing that will bring down Karla is his fanaticism; that it was Karla's flaw. It is also the GOP's, and it will eventually bring them down, too.

And I am also deeply, deeply grateful to Meg Whitman and Caly Fiorina for torching a couple of hundred million bucks of their own and GOP money, cash that could have gone to useful (from the GOP's point of view) purposes. I wonder if that is some kind of new world's record for spending which purchased nothing. Whatever: it's all down the drain now. Thank you, ladies. At least Michael Steele won't have it to spread around.

Also, Bill Clinton was dead right: Meek should have bailed and thorwn his money and support to Crist. People need to listen to Clinton more often.

Posted by: curmudgeon6 | November 3, 2010 2:47 PM | Report abuse

I don't recall Pelosi ever having any problem getting enough votes in the House. She got lots of stuff passed that never made it into law. The Senate, aka The League of Superannuated Gentlemen, is a very different kettle of fish. Individual Senators have much more power, the institution is steeped in (well yeah we all know what else it's steeped in) tradition, and the knowledge of and ability to use all of its arcane rules is looked on as a great thing. Also I suspect that rules changing is viewed askance because everybody knows they may someday be in the minority.

Posted by: kguy1 | November 3, 2010 2:55 PM | Report abuse

yello, I've got nothing against the filibuster in and of itself. It's the ability to invoke it without actually having to stand up and read the phone book on C-SPAN that chaps my butt. Surely Reid had other tools he could have used--even a web site or tweets that announced each and every time the Repubs blocked a bill using the filibuster forcefield.

And buying into the fiction that giving concessions to the Repubs would garner votes? All they got was watered-down legislation AND a reputation for not "reaching out." Feh.

Posted by: Raysmom | November 3, 2010 2:57 PM | Report abuse

Raysmom, the Senate needs 67 votes to overturn the filibustter rule. Ain't gonna happen, especially now: If the Democrats vote to overturn, then it means the GOP needs only 51 votes to overturn Obamacare, not 60. It would be insane for Dems to overturn the rule now.

yello is right: no one is ever gonna give it away.

Which is why all the talk about the GOP doing this, that, or the other is BS. We are in a state of permanent gridlock.

You can say what you want about Pelosi as speaker, but you have to give her this: she's been comptetent, within her own lights. That she has been effective is why the GOP hates her so much. Compared to her, Boehner is a complete amateur and a clown. If anyone things his leadership skills are better than hers, they need their head examined. And if you thought Pelosi had a tough job herding (Dem) cats, wait til we get to watch Boehner try to corral that mob of fruitcakes he's got. The inmates are going to be even more frisky now that they've won. I doubt there's enough thorazine in the pharmacopeia to keep that mob ruly.

I think I may have to take myself to Pep Boys or JiffyLube; I seem to have run up 20,000 miles on my shadenfreude, and may need to have it changed. And I'm pretty sure my BS filter needs replacing. The one in there now has massive chunks of blather caked on it.

Posted by: curmudgeon6 | November 3, 2010 3:02 PM | Report abuse

I don't see anyone removing the filibuster but, like Raysmom, I'd like to see it enforced. Make 'em stay on the floor. Make 'em talk. Mr. Smith Goes to Washington-type filibuster. That'd remove the temptation to use it for every little thing. Right now a filibuster is easy. Make 'em work.

Posted by: Ivansmom | November 3, 2010 3:09 PM | Report abuse

Somebody recently said, here I believe, that the wisdom for new house members is something like this: "The folks in the other party are your opponents. The people in the Senate are your enemy." Yes, I agree that the filibuster rule isn't going to disappear in our lifetime becuase both parties occsasionaly find it useful. I expect to seem some Dem filibusters as the Repubs try to ram through thier "agenda".

Posted by: ebtnut | November 3, 2010 3:14 PM | Report abuse

Please do maintain your BS filters!

Posted by: Bob-S | November 3, 2010 3:15 PM | Report abuse

Absolutely, make 'em filibuster on the floor in the harsh glare of the lights, dagnabit.

And I see the esteemed Rep. from Minn.'s 6th wants a leadership spot.


'Mudge, did you see the piece of crap about Palin's "mixed bag?" I mean, they try to lump friggin' McCain among "her" winners, and trying to give her credit for Rubio & Ayotte is also a stretch. To be fair, you can't tag Fiorina and Raese among "her" losses, but the overall piece makes it seem she's relevant. *RME*

Posted by: Scottynuke | November 3, 2010 3:16 PM | Report abuse

Perzactly. That is why I give Pelosi some props and kinda wish Reid had been defeated. He cost the Democrats House seats for nothing with his endless dithering. How did laws ever get passed with simple majorities before? Reid should have taken a harder stance and called some bluffs. A few midnight quorum calls would have put an end to the filibuster nonsense.

And Rand Paul with all the rights and privileges of The World's Greatest Deliberative Body is going to be endlessly entertaining. But if there is a Emperor Palpatine in the Senate, it is Jim DeMint who is a true force of darkness.

Posted by: yellojkt | November 3, 2010 3:18 PM | Report abuse

Bob S!!! Dang, son, where ya been?

Posted by: Scottynuke | November 3, 2010 3:18 PM | Report abuse

Just as a point of reminder, the filibuster is only available in the Senate (although there are still some other tactics in the House to delay votes) which the Democrats still control. I don't think that the minority party in the Senate will have much opportunity to ram through a particular agenda in the same way that the House is going to try endless throwing of $hit against the walls to see what sticks.

Posted by: Awal | November 3, 2010 3:22 PM | Report abuse

Is the deficit gone yet?

Posted by: cowhand214 | November 3, 2010 3:22 PM | Report abuse

If DeMint's the Emporer, Rand Paul's Jar Jar Binks...

Posted by: Scottynuke | November 3, 2010 3:23 PM | Report abuse

ebtnut, that would be "I expect to see some Dem filibusters as the Repubs try to ram their "agenda" down our throats. You forgot the throats part. As Crash Davis would say "You're gonna have to learn your clichés. You're gonna have to study them, you're gonna have to know them. They're your friends."

Posted by: kguy1 | November 3, 2010 3:23 PM | Report abuse

And Boehner's Sebulba...

Posted by: Scottynuke | November 3, 2010 3:24 PM | Report abuse

The filibuster rules haven't actually changed much, have they? If the members wanted to make someone do a good ole "Mr Smith" filibuster, all they'd have to do is maintain a quorum prepared to end debate as soon as "Smith" runs out of gas. Isn't it the practice that's changed, not so much the rules?

Posted by: Bob-S | November 3, 2010 3:27 PM | Report abuse

Yeah, saw that piece of Palin crap, Scotty. It was one of the various pieces of post-election BS I've been complaining about. But it's all just "spin." I see her as having suffered a major loss last night, not a major win. All her bestest buddies, the most extremes, all got their asses kicked: O'Donnell, Paladino, Angle, and most especially Miller. I don't see how ANY pundit can cite Alaska as anything but a total repudiation of Palinism. For a write-in to actually win (or even come close, in the event Murkowski ultimately loses in a tight recount) is nothing short of refudiation. I don't see how it can be spun any other way. Her home state shot her boy down.

That she "won" 26 House district that were gonna go GOP anyway is meaningless.

It's all crap. The extremists lost last night, overwhelmingly. And it was the Tea Party and the Palin types who shot down the viable GOP peeps in the primaries, Mike Castle for instance.

Great victory my ass.

Posted by: curmudgeon6 | November 3, 2010 3:31 PM | Report abuse

'Zactly, 'Mudge, 'zactly indeed-a-rooni.

Posted by: Scottynuke | November 3, 2010 3:34 PM | Report abuse

Add Tancredo to her list of endorsed nutjob candidates who lost.

If Evertt Dirksen and Bob Dole were running the GOP right now Palin would have been run out of town on a rail. She cost them the Senate.

Posted by: curmudgeon6 | November 3, 2010 3:39 PM | Report abuse

The spin-crap-tacular isn't limited to WaPo, of course. This isn't as bad, but still...

*RME again*

Posted by: Scottynuke | November 3, 2010 3:40 PM | Report abuse

Hey Cowhand, I read about that shooting yesterday in the Globe so now I know you live in my old neighborhood. I grew up on Westwood Rd.

It's so nice to see that the town is gentrifying!?

Posted by: rickoshea11 | November 3, 2010 3:42 PM | Report abuse

Hi Bob S!!

Nice, scottynuke and Mudge. DeMint as the Emperor is just right. Rand Paul as JarJar, Boehner as Sebulba - right and cruel. Nice.

I also agree with the assessment of the "Palin win". The nuts lost, mainly. Or the new nuts anyway. The Tea Party nuts. That's what you get for serving mixed nuts with tea.

Posted by: Ivansmom | November 3, 2010 3:42 PM | Report abuse

Howdy, Scotty. I probably won't catch up on all I've missed, but saw that some of you were wondering about me. I've been otherwise occupied for a couple of weeks. Free at last, free at last, thank God Almighty I'm free at last. Just say NO to driving while intoxicated. That's all I'll say about that for the moment. Oh, and if at some point you think that incarceration in Fairfax County is in your future, make sure that you're wearing plain white underwear & socks, otherwise you'll have none at all until you can purchase some.

I'm pretty bummed out that I missed the rally. One of my favorite signs was:
"If your beliefs fit on a sign,
Think harder..."

I didn't get to vote, or even follow any election coverage until this morning. The "Animal Planet" channel is inexplicably popular with the inmate crowd. I gather that Obama's still the president.

I find this story rather disturbing:
"NM tribe bans newspaper after story of killing"
The gist of the story is that tribal leaders of Jemez Pueblo have banned the distribution of a newspaper (published in a nearby non-tribal community) because they feel that the coverage of a recent murder is too icky. While I'm well aware that the Nations gotta do what the Nations gotta do, I've seldom seen many positive consequences flow from press restrictions.

And finally (and perhaps most importantly, given my recent bland diet):
I just became aware that McDonald's has a limited-time release of its McRib sandwich. As a Georgia boy who takes pork barbecue somewhat seriously, I had always assumed that this sandwich would be so horrible that the only proper response was to ignore its very existence, and have therefore not only never eaten one but have never actually seen one. But while I was in the big house, several fellas told me that it's kinda tasty, so I'm on a mission to find one.

[I may seem to be making light of my transgression and its consequences. You may rest assured that's a rhetorical device and a coping mechanism. I'm very unhappy with myself.]

Posted by: Bob-S | November 3, 2010 3:52 PM | Report abuse

Welcome back. People have been asking about you. Mostly in tones of hushed whispered concern. You got any new scars or tattoos to show us?

Posted by: yellojkt | November 3, 2010 3:52 PM | Report abuse

I wondered why the railroad bridge on the Beltway suddenly read "Surrender Bob," and now I know. Glad you're back, dude.

Posted by: Scottynuke | November 3, 2010 4:00 PM | Report abuse

Hey all... no time to boodle, but wanted to make an important announcement about the...

Welcome to CowTown BPH...

Tomorrow night

The Brickskeller
1523 22nd Street NW, Washington D.C.

7:30 PM

Hope lots of you can make it! (Cowhand... wish you were around for the Cow vs Cow standoff!).

See you tomorrow night!

Posted by: -TBG- | November 3, 2010 4:01 PM | Report abuse

Bob S,
Good Lord.
Glad you're out.
Bet you never do it again.

Watch out for the McRib. Remember Homer Simpson and the KrustyBurger version. Addiction comes in many forms.

Posted by: Ivansmom | November 3, 2010 4:04 PM | Report abuse

This (sorry for my lazy quoting of wikipedia) is the rule I was referring to:

"In the modern filibuster, the senators trying to block a vote do not have to hold the floor and continue to speak as long as there is a quorum, although the Senate Majority Leader may require an actual traditional filibuster if he or she so chooses." (Information derived from Beth, Richard; Stanley Bach (March 28, 2003). Filibusters and Cloture in the Senate. Congressional Research Service. pp. 4, 9.)

So it appears that Sen. Reid could at least made the Repubs do the actual filibuster, vs. just threatening it. Think of the visuals.

Glad you're back, Bob.

Posted by: Raysmom | November 3, 2010 4:11 PM | Report abuse

Hi rickoshea! I live about 2 minutes walk from Westwood Rd. Just the other side of Central St. and up Highland Ave. a couple of addresses. Cool!

I'm a new arrival (last summer) so I can't speak to how much the neighborhood might have changed but it's been a little crazy recently. A woman was killed by police a few months ago (again just up the street from me) after attacking 3 officers with a knife and over the weekend someone apparently fired several shots at housing authority officers. Wild.

Posted by: cowhand214 | November 3, 2010 4:16 PM | Report abuse

A Facebook friend just warned already-depressed voters not to look at the list of seats set to turn over in 2012. My reply: By that time the electorate will be ready for a change again. They'll be mad at both parties again. They'll either turn over and elect Democrats once more, or they'll start voting for parties from other countries. Canada, get ready.

I base this on a belief that the "change" meme was accepted, by everyone, a little too heartily. In 2008 Democrats and progressives voted for change. This time around, they were disaffected and didn't vote because change didn't happen quickly enough. Tea Partiers & Republicans were mad because there was too much change for them and they wanted to change it. I predict they, too, will be unhappy with the pace of change, or the change they get. That will leave everyone unhappy in 2012. If the electorate doesn't come to its collective senses, we'll either have a merry-go-round with this year's losers back in, or they'll start in on other countries' parties.

Posted by: Ivansmom | November 3, 2010 4:20 PM | Report abuse

From Paul Kane's chat today, Raysmom.

"Q.Blame it on the (non) filibuster?
At the polls yesterday, a fellow Democrat told me that she blamed Harry Reid for the Republican wave, because he never made the Republicans 'actually do' a filibuster, like in the movies. Having read many of your replies to these chats, I told her that Paul Kane of the Washington Post says that under modern rules, it's impossible to force such a cots-all-night option in Hollywood (or historic) fashion -- it simply no longer exists. As I understand you, there was literally nothing Reid could do that matches our mental image of a 'real filibuster.' She was shocked and asked me for details. I didn't have them. You are the expert. Can you explain this for us one last time?
– November 03, 2010 9:16 AM

"A.Paul Kane writes:
Here's the thing. Under current Senate rules, the chamber functions under unanimous consent requests. Reid asks for "UC" to pass a bill, McConnell objects. In its most basic function, at that moment, the onus is on Reid to produce 60 votes to shut off McConnell's objections. All McConnell needs to do is make sure he has at least one ally in the chamber at all times to object.

"Now, if Reid forces a cloture vote to kill off the filibuster, and he falls short with, say, 57 votes, he could do one other thing to symbolically prove his point: Just leave the chamber open in a state of suspended animation, stuck in neutral on the same piece of legislation and refuse to move on to something else. But there's nothing he can do to force the Rs to come down and hold the floor."


Have no idea if this is right or not.

Posted by: curmudgeon6 | November 3, 2010 4:25 PM | Report abuse

Amen I-mom. I think your analysis applies to the 1994 Contract with America swing election as well. Folks don't educate themselves on issues, they just pick up on the "got a plan, gonna fix it all" vibe and vote accordingly. With the complex and intractable problems we face as a nation it is very sad.

I don't object to paying taxes, and I would willingly pay more if I believed that real problems were being addressed. I do not include Haliburton's bottom line in that category however.

Here's an idea for reducing government spending. No state shall receive more in funding from the federal government than it contributes in tax revenue. This would not affect donor states like Connecticut and New Jersey or revenue neutral states like Texas, only those that get more than they give like say... Alaska, New Mexico, Hawaii, Mississippi, and Virginia.

Posted by: kguy1 | November 3, 2010 4:37 PM | Report abuse

In 2006 I was so annoyed that I (childishly) voted the "Throw the Bums Out" ticket. I refused to vote for any incumbents. I abstained from a few races, voted for people I'd never heard of in a few more.

The results didn't make me any happier. Messy stuff, this government thing.

Posted by: Bob-S | November 3, 2010 4:53 PM | Report abuse

BobS, honey! You shoulda told me and I'd have baked (and brought) you a cake ... or at least a pone. Glad you're okay because I'm another boodler who's missed you.

To all --- have enjoyed this afternoon's boodle post-election analysis mightily. I'm not able to write my thoughts about it all so well as most of you ... it's a comfort to come here and find my feelings (and eyerolls) paralleled.

Posted by: talitha1 | November 3, 2010 4:56 PM | Report abuse

Science? Who needs it. Louisiana's busy building its protective coastal berms regardless of coastal scientists' objections.

I expect we'll see plenty more of this:
• assertions that New Orleans' improved flood protection is just fine, despite being grossly inadequate by international standards
• climate change.
• "Food supplements" (an old case. Remember that Utah politicians waged war on the FDA?)
• Vaccinations. They're evil and cause autism.

Posted by: DaveoftheCoonties | November 3, 2010 5:21 PM | Report abuse

Bob, glad you are back.

Posted by: dmd3 | November 3, 2010 5:28 PM | Report abuse

Since I've been in hiding all day (didn't turn on the TV this morning, either, and haven't read the paper) finishing a pleading we are hell-bent on filing tomorrow -- and now I'm about to start yet another one to be filed tomorrow (I am soooo too old for this) -- I haven't been able to back-boodle. But I've figured that you guys are tremendously good at what you do, so I'm not worried. Really.


Now, who wants to come over and make me dinner?

Posted by: ftb3 | November 3, 2010 5:38 PM | Report abuse

Faxing chicken portabello, sauteed mushrooms and onions, and steamed broccoli your way, ftb...This is the first time I've cooked since Thursday, so I dunno how good it'll be...

Posted by: slyness | November 3, 2010 5:42 PM | Report abuse

I'm so hungry right now, slyness, I'll eat it and be grateful. And it sounds terrific.

In the interim, I think I'll order some Chinese food for delivery (I'll put your stuff in the fridge, slyness).

So exhausted and it ain't over yet. The election results pale in comparison -- which is, frankly, the point. Putting it all in perspective, the world has not come to an end (okay, yet.....), the sky has not fallen, the big-business-girls lost in CA, most of the other TPers lost (except for Rand Paul, who I expect will flame out), and there we are.

Besides, the Boodle is the best place to be on days like this, and we all have each other, so what's not to like???

Gotta go.

Posted by: ftb3 | November 3, 2010 6:01 PM | Report abuse

Rand Paul will get co-opted. He has sell-out written all over him.

Posted by: yellojkt | November 3, 2010 6:26 PM | Report abuse

Great discussion here this afternoon, sorry I was at work and missed it. If the rethugs spend the next two years blocked everything and subpoenaing everybody, we'll be right back to square one and voting the Dems back to power. The amount of money spent on this campaign is disgusting. Public financing anyone? (Not that it's gonna happen, but good grief!)

Bob S. glad you're back. Sorry to hear the reason you were 'away'. Lesson learned I assume?

Posted by: badsneakers | November 3, 2010 6:36 PM | Report abuse

I think Rand Paul will be relieved to be co-opted, it's so much better than being inconsequential.

In San Jose at a conference with Mr. F. 30-35 Chinese authors on technical papers for every 1 "American." Surely some of the Chinese, Indian and Arabic sounding names belong to American citizens, but the accents tell me they aren't from around here originally. Sure, they all went to American universities but unlike their American classmates they didn't need remedial coursework to get on with real classes in tough disciplines.

It seems there is no end to the circumstances that can keep me depressed about the state of k-12 education.

My many term congressman was defeated yesterday, as was the county commission candidate I supported. I am the kiss of death to campaigns apparently. However, I was not on the ballot so all is right with the world. I can gracefully retire to private life come January, memoir to follow.

Off to back boodle and then to a dinner at rapacious corporate captains' expense. Later gators!

Posted by: frostbitten1 | November 3, 2010 6:42 PM | Report abuse

bobs-good to see you back. Sad to the read the circumstances of your absence, but glad you felt comfortable telling us about it. They didn't happen to serve tater tot casserole did they? It's one of the favorites at our county jail, and though bland that's what people like in MN so I've been told it's no hardship.

Posted by: frostbitten1 | November 3, 2010 6:55 PM | Report abuse

Here's the thing. As I have mentioned before, these elections aren't football games. Yes, it's nice to win, but what really matters is what happens between these elections.

I think that Obama and the 111th Congress got a lot of good things done. And lest we forget, one of the reasons more of the "progressive agenda" wasn't advanced is that agreement couldn't be reached among the *Democrats*.

Maybe tackling different topics might have reduced the Democratic losses, I dunno. The economy would have probably hurt the Dems no matter what they tried to do. But I, personally, think enduring accomplishments such as Health Care Reform, Direct Student Loans, Financial Reform, as well as a host of other accomplishments, are worth the electoral price.

Posted by: RD_Padouk | November 3, 2010 6:56 PM | Report abuse

Amen, RD, Amen!

Posted by: badsneakers | November 3, 2010 6:58 PM | Report abuse

Bob-S - you make a good point about what happens when you cast a protest vote. I assert that a lot of people ended up voting for candidates they know very little about.

Posted by: RD_Padouk | November 3, 2010 7:03 PM | Report abuse

Preach it RD!!

Posted by: frostbitten1 | November 3, 2010 7:03 PM | Report abuse

I agree, RD_P. Until more people take on the true mantle of being an *adult* things aren't gonna change so much. Obama's still the first adult we've had in the White House for a long, long time (if ever), and the little children don't like it, all the while complaining about not getting a bigger allowance than the kidz next door.

I'm gonna ignore it all, stay out of the way (as I did for all 8 years (seemed like centuries) of Little Boy's administration) and just do my thing.

Oh yeah, that's right. Gotta get back to my thing. . . .


Posted by: ftb3 | November 3, 2010 7:05 PM | Report abuse

Bob S. I'm speechless. I hope... nevermind.... you know what I was going to say.

Cowhand, I hope you can come down to DC so I can tell you about the old neighborhood in the good old days.

In my parents' 60-year reign there, there were no murders ever. Although one of our neighbors went to jail for insurance fraud. A real scandal.

On my street there were two doctors, and around the corner on Benton Rd. there were two more doctors, the superintendent of schools, and a state rep.

You're living in the elite section of the 'Ville'!

Posted by: rickoshea11 | November 3, 2010 7:11 PM | Report abuse

applause for RD.

It is so easy to miss or minimize the importance of the things that have been accomplished - even or especially things people like - because many of them are complex. Complex doesn't translate well into 15 seconds on TV. It doesn't make good sound bites. And not enough work has been done on breaking those messages down to easily understood bits of kibble.

It is even more difficult to explain some of the pressing problems to voters. Infrastructure? Ok, easy after a major bridge falls down - if we can keep reminding people of it. Remember that thing in Minnesota, wasn't it? Maybe? Energy policy? Much more difficult, even after a major oil spill. Economy? How does that work, really? What does "financial sector" mean, other than "evil people" or "rich people we hope to be one of someday"? Why does it matter whether we know what banks are doing? What is an investment bank? I could go on and on. . .

Posted by: Ivansmom | November 3, 2010 7:14 PM | Report abuse

RDP, thanks for the clarity and thoughts. Am, I borrow and channel your waves.

Oh Bob. Wow. Glad you are back. Take, care, sir, who matters here and there and everywhere.

I recall the days of yore, when politicians, yea, people, would disagree and vote blue/vote red but STILL SPEAK TO ONE ANOTHER.

Our genius is to compromise,civilly, in respect to the process outlined in our great documents. We agree long ago to be ruled by a set of imperfect but good-enough documents.

If we lose any part -- particularly the compromise and civility -- , well, then, we get what we deserve.

In MD, we remain blue at nearly all levels. We used to be called America in Miniature. Not sure that is true anymore.

Posted by: CollegeQuaParkian1 | November 3, 2010 7:27 PM | Report abuse

Ironic that the new great communicator didn't hammer home the fact that $350 billion of the stimulus (that people kept saying didn't produce any jobs) went into every working persons paycheck every week for the last year and half. And continues now.
Stimulus money is being spent around here right now on a number of projects that would never have happened without it. Like taking out the last two dams on the Rogue river that impede salmon spawning runs and cleaning up the toxic tailings of a WW1 copper mine that have been leaching into the Applegate River. Plus lots of road, trail and bridge work. Stimulus money projects get one little mention in the local press when they start and nothing else.

Posted by: bh72 | November 3, 2010 7:28 PM | Report abuse

Oklahoma politicians on the local, state and federal level are schizophrenic about the stimulus money (except for the current Governor, a fine man who was an early Obama supporter and is honest about the effect of the federal money). It saved our bacon. For the most part, our Congresspersons and legislators welcomed it with harsh words but open arms.

Posted by: Ivansmom | November 3, 2010 7:44 PM | Report abuse

Yoki: "I can summon spirits from the vasty deep"
Hotspur: "But so can I, or so can any person. But will they come when you do call for them?"
Bob-S (ghostly): "McRib!"

Georgia is stuck between eastern North Carolina, with its distinct version of barbecue and Florida, with a variety whose locus seems to be Gainesville.

Posted by: DaveoftheCoonties | November 3, 2010 7:51 PM | Report abuse

Our heating oil supplier was here last week and said he is running out to the Applegate project three times a week to deliver heavy equipment fuel (20 miles outside his normal range.) When I mentioned that stimulus is creating jobs, he replied "yeah for California guys." The contractor is from California with 25-50 guys on site. When I said lots of gravel trucks go by here every day to the job he conceded "well some local driver jobs." Rock gravel and limestone has been going by here in dump truck & trailer, long bed dumps and belly dumps all day, four days a week now for three months. Also somebody is digging and loading all that rock and gravel. The reports from the job say they will have to suspend when the snow flies (at 5000 ft elevation) and resume next summer.

Posted by: bh72 | November 3, 2010 7:56 PM | Report abuse

I'm so tired I read " Local Republicans, including the gubernatorial winner," as " Local Republicans, including the gubernatorial weiner," but maybe PA's results are influencing that.

Posted by: -dbG- | November 3, 2010 8:00 PM | Report abuse

Oh, I forgot, the repugs said arsenic is OK in drinking water.

Posted by: bh72 | November 3, 2010 8:01 PM | Report abuse

Oh, yeah, welcome back, Bob S! Don't look too hard for the McRib, imho. I remembered they were great, the current incarnation, not so much. It's full of, you know, ingredients. I won't bother again.

Posted by: -dbG- | November 3, 2010 8:02 PM | Report abuse

RoS, I'd live to here about about the 'Ville in the rare auld times. My folks just recently moved back to College Park and I still have a lot of friends in the area from when I went to school down in Annapolis (not the Naval Academy) that I suspect I won't be a stranger.

My stomping grounds pretty much range from up Davis and down to Union. The rest of the city is like darkest Africa from the amount of exposure I have to it. It's actually a little disconcerting when I reflect on that.

Looks the the pasta is about done. Time to relax a bit. Laterz!

Posted by: cowhand214 | November 3, 2010 8:16 PM | Report abuse

Welcome back Bob S. Thanks for the info on undies. It changes things a bit for me if I ever drift into the C of V. I'll have to change basic clothing while I chew on the pine-shaped car freshner while the state trooper walks to the car. Tricky all that.

I'm like a cat right now. I watch people working. The hotel I'm in is a developing sector and they are building a Mega-Hyper-Market next to it. The welders and erectors are back home (in the hotel, nice) but a hydro digging truck is caught in a bad place with a dead engine. Two heavy tow trucks are working on the problem with the truck's crew. That is six people probably on overtime. Oh, the smaller tow truck left. The hydro truck is a beast, probably maxing out at 85 000 lbs, so the little guy let the grown ups take care of business. Maybe more to come.

Posted by: shrieking_denizen | November 3, 2010 8:29 PM | Report abuse

A little ditty in honor of the talk of McRibs and bbq:

I didn't follow the results too closely last night, but in futzing around with some of the interactive maps showing election results and voter turnout, it seemed like there were some areas where turnout was low relative to 2008.

So one interpretation of what happened would be that people came out angry and voted to "take back the country," but a second possibility would be that people just stayed home - a silent majority was too discouraged to vote and never consented to the reactionary vote.

I'd be curious to hear if anyone has seen any hard numbers or analysis on this from different races around the country.

Posted by: lostnspace | November 3, 2010 8:33 PM | Report abuse

We're getting a bit of rain. What's needed is a deluge. There's been no meaningful rain for two months and each citrus tree needs some 40 gallons a day. Local irrigation water from wells is too saline to be used indefinitely. Most of the fruit that's fit to be picked is very small.

There's hope that genetic engineering and speeded-up conventional breeding may yield citrus trees that resist greening and canker, which are threatening the industry.

Posted by: DaveoftheCoonties | November 3, 2010 8:37 PM | Report abuse


I believe Paul Kane has a very good handle on the Senate filibuster process. He worked for Roll Call for several years before he went to the Post and has a good grasp of the Senate and how it works. The rules of the Senate are complex, but I think Kane's explanation is a good, straight-forward one. CRS has a 20-page paper on the filibuster and cloture processes. Whatever problems the Senate has, I don't think they will be solved by forcing them to read the phone book into the record.

Posted by: -pj- | November 3, 2010 8:44 PM | Report abuse

Good to see you back, Bob S! Take care of yourself, my friend.

Posted by: -pj- | November 3, 2010 8:45 PM | Report abuse

Let's bore you to death with Hydro Digging Truck Rescue. (HDTR not HMF). Smallish tow truck is back on the scene, it just circled around to be on the right side.
The Hydro truck sprung a leak while being turned around and the cause of the leak is beaing investigated. Water, Hydrau oil? Who knows.
Hydro truck is nose to a concrete barrier and about 6 feet from a row of steel beams.
Luckily they are on a concrete pad. They would have dug a major divot spinning that truck around on asphalt.

Posted by: shrieking_denizen | November 3, 2010 8:46 PM | Report abuse

Free at last! The leak might have been judged a incondequensial matter as the big tow truck just took off with its catch.

Posted by: shrieking_denizen | November 3, 2010 8:51 PM | Report abuse

Salon has an interesting spin. Of sixteen Democrats who voted against extended unemployment benefits, only three won re-election, proving that craven political calculus was not a refuge for Democrats. These Blue Dogs also make-up about 20-25% of the Republican gains, bolstering my thesis that the power shift is less cataclysmic than advertised.

Posted by: yellojkt | November 3, 2010 9:43 PM | Report abuse

I hope you're right, yellojkt. Not sure I can stand to read any political articles just yet.

As for why WA state elections are so close - no idea, but I blame Dino Rossi (R) who has been in a couple of them - and lost (yay!).

Bob S, glad you're on the outside again.

Posted by: seasea1 | November 3, 2010 10:07 PM | Report abuse

Bob S,
Here's the skinny on the McRib:

Posted by: rickoshea11 | November 3, 2010 10:32 PM | Report abuse

Hopping out of an alternate universe to welcome BobS back to this timeline.

We missed you, dude.

I ain't gonna tell you anything you don't already know.

On a completely different topic, a question (one prompted by RD and others): Are we American voters collectively as schizophrenic as we appear to be, or perhaps bi-polar, or simply moody?

To RD's comment, I'd say that voters are very much like sports fans of any given team. Sometimes you love your guys, somtimes you want to trade every last one of 'em.


Posted by: -bc- | November 3, 2010 10:42 PM | Report abuse

So it's -what- midnight or something? I've been at it for 12 hours today and there's more to come tomorrow (which it suddenly is).

I'm going to bed and I know I'm gonna dream about what I've been doing all day (with minor breaks for boodling).


Posted by: ftb3 | November 4, 2010 12:02 AM | Report abuse

*faxing ftb a very large hypoallergenic downy pillow to crash upon*

Letterman is really going off about how he's gonna scream if he hears one more time about how "We sent America a message."

Posted by: curmudgeon6 | November 4, 2010 12:13 AM | Report abuse

Thanks so much for the warm welcome back, y'all.

rickoshea - I didn't get around to hunting up a McRib tonight, and thought that the link you provided might convince me it wasn't worth the effort. But now it's an absolute necessity!

Posted by: Bob-S | November 4, 2010 12:40 AM | Report abuse

Backboodling into the night ...

lostnspace, your BarBQue song absolutely stopped me dead. Wonderfully hilarious and so true. BBQ is not a verb.

Hope some of you caught Stewart and Colbert tonight ... best they've been since the rally. Colbert even made mention of Oklahoma's anti-sharia law referendum, noting that .03% of Sooners are self-described Muslims, moderates all supposedly, and that there's nothing like creating a law against something that doens't even exist. Imom would be proud.

Posted by: talitha1 | November 4, 2010 12:57 AM | Report abuse

I gotta call it a night, but wanted to thank lostnspace for the BBQ song. That's great!

Posted by: Bob-S | November 4, 2010 1:22 AM | Report abuse

To Bob S--

White undies and socks
Hardly avant-garde for dogs
but thanks for advice.


Posted by: Wilbrod_Gnome | November 4, 2010 1:26 AM | Report abuse

While business trips certainly represent a break in the routine, breaking one's sleep routine is a bit problematic...

*northward-facing-across-the-lake-to-the-Haute-Maine-Boodlers Grover waves* :-)

Posted by: Scottynuke | November 4, 2010 7:12 AM | Report abuse

God loves us so much more than we can imagine through Him that died for all, Jesus Christ.

Good morning, friends. K-guy, you win the award for being a vacation. Agent Orange!! I'm going to have to wait to later in the day to read your posts, too much noise coming from my apartment so early in the morning!

Bob S
Welcome back, and um...aren't you from Georgia?

We have the wet stuff this morning, rain. And that's just wonderful! It feels like I'm coming down with a cold, not so perky this morning.

I was surprised that you used the words "thoughtful" and "electorate" in the same sentence. I don't think I've ever seen or heard that.

Slyness, has your wish come true yet? I'm loving the weather, just wish I could stay in and not have to get out in it. Alas, it's not to be!

May your day be everything you hope for, folks, and love to all.

Posted by: cmyth4u | November 4, 2010 7:27 AM | Report abuse

And a happy gray, rainy morning to you, Cassandra! I slept in my very own bed last night, it felt so good. Since it was raining, Mr. T and I didn't get up for our morning stroll. I'll be glad to get back to that. Tomorrow, I hope.

Bob S, welcome home. I'm sure that's a mistake you won't make again. Let us know about the McRib. I don't recall the last time I went into a McDonald's. We tend to be Bojangles and Wendy's customers.

A day at home with nothing pushing on me, it's almost heaven.

Geekdottir left to drive to Alabama last night. She texted me at 3:29 that she had arrived. I didn't realize she meant to go so soon; such a relief that she got there okay.


Posted by: slyness | November 4, 2010 7:38 AM | Report abuse

Good morning all... I did love the BBQ song, but I thought it was funny that Virginia is shown as in The North.

Do folks not realize the capital of the Confederacy was in Virginia? That two out of the three men carved on Stone Mountain are Virginians?

I mean... they included Virginia on the map of... Yankees!

OK.. we don't have our very own kind of BBQ, but those talented NC natives also ignored the fact that NC is broken up into three distince BBQ Regions. They only mentioned one of them--and then just barely.

Posted by: -TBG- | November 4, 2010 8:01 AM | Report abuse

Jumping as high as I can to wave back at Scotty.

Posted by: dmd3 | November 4, 2010 8:09 AM | Report abuse

Virginia may have been part of the Confederacy but they don't have a role in barbeque culture like Lexington or Memphis. Virginia is smoked hams not barbecue.

I mark the real line between North and South by The Smokey Pig in Ashland. Anything above that is not The Real Thing.

One of my barbeque maxims is that the best BBQ is found in the neighborhoods where your life is most at risk. That rules out any Red Hot and Blue or Famous Daves. The best barbecue in Atlanta is at Harolds next to the penitentiary.

I was amused by the dismissal of Florida as not being in the South because there is a lot of 'que in the Sunshine State, albeit more so in the northern half. I used to have a good place in Tampa called Big Johns Alabama. which I only went to in broad daylight. Florida is also home to Sunny's which is a chain and while not genuinely life-endangering is more than enough to quench a craving for authentic cooking.

Posted by: yellojkt | November 4, 2010 8:45 AM | Report abuse

SCC: Sonny's. I got it conflated with the defunct Baltimore sporting goods chain.

Their toast is worth the trip alone.

Posted by: yellojkt | November 4, 2010 8:54 AM | Report abuse

Howdy and many thanks to lostnspace for the BBQ Song. That's a great way to start the morning. I'm so glad you're posting!

I must say, the Song's BBQ Review was almost comprehensive but not quite. Oklahoma is part Midwest, part South, and many of its culinary traditions are Southern (grits, anyone? fried egg sandwiches?). Barbecue is an important feature here, and I don't mean just grilled stuff. I agree that restaurant location has a great deal to do with it, but I'd add that it doesn't necessarily have to be dangerous, just unprepossessing. Leo's in OKC is best, as is (or was, it's been a long time) Earl's in Tulsa. That place outside Muskogee is good too. If you're from here you know which one I mean, though I forget its name.

My grandfather made the world's best barbecue sauce. We had old-fashioned smoked barbecue most summer weekends. He finally divulged the sauce recipe to a handful of younger cousins, so the tradition is alive.

Posted by: Ivansmom | November 4, 2010 9:03 AM | Report abuse

'Morning, Boodle.

There's a story about how the good citizens of Iowa -- and the lobbyists who spent $700,000 to do so -- kicked all three judges off the bench who had ruled in favor of a gay marriage amendment. That'll show 'em, by god! And so now we have this most excellent piece of intelligence from the cornbelt:

"It was a victory for freedom, a victory for liberty," said Bob Vander Plaats, the former Republican gubernatorial candidate and Sioux City businessman who started the push to oust the justices. "If we allow courts to make our law, to amend our law and amend our Constitution, you have tyranny."

You see, courts aren't supposed to have anything to do with the law in Iowa. Why, it's tyrannical, that's what it is! Why, if you start allowing lawyers and judges and whatnot to start decidin' the law, why, next thing you know, you'll have the Supreme Court deciding whether a slave is two-thirds of a person or not. Or busing. Or interpreting the tax code. Or god forbid, writing up patents and submitting briefs on trade agreements! Then judges will be deciding who is guilty or innocent! And sentencing people to jail, the self-righteous b@st@rds! Who do they think they are?

After all, the very essence of freedom is preventing people from doing what they want.

Oh, and I am vastly, vastly amused by the column that suggests how Obama and the GOP can work together. Why, I myself foresee two years of blissful harmony in Washington. It's going to be a freaking love fest, I just know it. Woodstock, without the nudity or the music.

Posted by: curmudgeon6 | November 4, 2010 9:05 AM | Report abuse

Hey, y'all, my cousin is in DC for some kind of conference. If you see him be sure to say hi! Just say you're one of my imaginary friends.

Now I want barbecue for breakfast - and I already had some perfectly good oatmeal with raisins.

Posted by: Ivansmom | November 4, 2010 9:07 AM | Report abuse

I know this is completely off-topic, but when I was up on the roof Sunday cleaning out the gutters I noted that there were virtually no acorns, which led to noting that there almost none on the ground, with our yard populated and surrounded by big oak trees. IIRC, this happened last year too. Anyone else take note of this? And is this an ecological problem in the making?

Re: elections and such, pay attention to the lame duck session. There's the repeal/expiration of the Bush tax cuts and extension of unemployment benefits on the table. Would not be surprised if things get deadlocked on the tax cuts and they expire of their own accord on Dec. 31. That will leave the Repigs to decide if they REALLY want to go back and give the richest 1% a big tax break or are they going to be serious about deficit reduction.

Posted by: ebtnut | November 4, 2010 9:16 AM | Report abuse

Lovely rain-soaked morning, y'all.

yello, The Smokey Pig in Ashland!!! My youngest sis has lived out from that wonderful 'burg for over 20 years and I kneel and say prayers whenever I think of the Pig and it's blessings. OMG! Now, whether it's a demarcation line regarding BBQ is Virginia is debatable. Valley folk know how to do mighty fine, too.

Posted by: talitha1 | November 4, 2010 9:25 AM | Report abuse

ebtnut, the acorn shortage must be a regional thing. On my street in Toronto, squirrels are *still* hiding acorns for the winter. A few weeks ago there were so many in the trees that when the wind blew they would rain down en masse and make a sound like a drum roll. The hoods and roofs of many of the cars parked in the street have multiple dents from the weeks-long bombardment.

Posted by: byoolin1 | November 4, 2010 9:27 AM | Report abuse

New kit!

Posted by: byoolin1 | November 4, 2010 9:32 AM | Report abuse

Speaking of BBQ and the Mason-Dixon line (!), any of you in the Baltimore area familiar with a place up in Parkville (Old Harford Rd/Putty Hill) called the Charcoal Grill. It's takeout-only, sits in the parking lot of a liquor store, and people willingly stand in the rain, snow or blazing sun to pick up their orders of ribs. I want some now! Reminds me of that episode of M.A.S.H. when the gang orders ribs and sauce shipped to Korea from a joint in TWC.

Posted by: talitha1 | November 4, 2010 9:34 AM | Report abuse

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