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Posted at 8:47 AM ET, 11/23/2010

The Joy of Drilling

By Joel Achenbach

It's that time of year when a man whose thoughts are normally preoccupied with making large pots of food suddenly becomes inspired -- by the chill in the air, the descent of the leaves, the tock-tock of acorns dropping on the roof of the car -- to make even larger pots of food.

Every morning I look through The Joy of Cooking in search of an idea. Not that I'll ever make anything other than the five things I always make, but, still, hypothetically, in theory, conceivably, if the planet reversed its polarity, etc., I might fix something novel. Usually I wind up reading about how to skin a squirrel or cook a possum, or somesuch barbaric act that is the speciality of the Rombauers.

The main thing I know about cooking is that bacon always helps. That's about 90 percent of the game right there. I would write a cookbook, but it'd only be about 3 paragraphs. Message: Start with bacon, a dark roux, a ham hock, canned tomatoes, some freshly grilled meat, plenty of Tabasco, and you're 99 percent of the way home, no matter what you're trying to make, even if it's just a salad.

This year is different from most years, because I'm working on a book, and, in addition to reading The Joy of Cooking, I'm also habitually perusing the Standard Handbook of Petroleum & Natural Gas Engineering (William C. Lyons, ed.).

It is 1,431 pages long -- seriously. I don't really read it so much as observe it. I hold it. I caress it. I page through from back to front, then front to back, then back to front, as though I'm trying to air it out.

The book opens with a section on Geometry, followed by Trigonometry. To drill a well you need to be able to do equations all day long. There are long sections on Applied Statistics, Thermodynamics and Chemistry. Then the book gets big time into the hardware: Derricks and Portable Masts, the Hoisting System, Mud Pumps, the Drillstring, Drilling Bits and Downhole Tools.There are 88 pages just on Drilling Muds and Completion Fluids.

Mostly I read this to familiarize myself with the language, the jargon, the lingo, the various whatchicalls of the business. But even though most of this might as well be written in Mandarin, it's obvious that petroleum engineering is a hard, complex process. This is no foolin' around. Drilling a well is arguably harder than cooking a squirrel, though the Rombauers might dispute that.

In both cases, there's a lot that can go wrong.

By Joel Achenbach  | November 23, 2010; 8:47 AM ET
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"The Downhole Tools" WMGNFRB!

Posted by: kguy1 | November 23, 2010 10:05 AM | Report abuse

While I don't have the very, very first edition of JoC, I do have one old enough to have recipes for cooking squirrel, raccoon and probably even muskrat. Which reminds me of a joke I heard, but I don't think I'll try it out here. Several jokes, actually.

But I digress.

After my dad died (coming up on 26 years now), I went through his professional library and took (among many other things) "The Building Estimator's Reference Book" by Frank R. Walker. It was the Eleventh Edition, but the first copyright date was 1915, when my dad was 7 years old. The book, squat in stature, is almost 1800 pages long. As I browse through it (perhaps every 10 years or so, when I notice it on the bookshelf in my office), I am taken by the relatively low pricing in it -- mere pennies. But what really got me to clean my glasses was the chapter on "mensuration" which I read as ... well, you know. It's basically measurement formulae and tables (tabulae?). This old stuff is fascinating! I also have the "Machinery's Handbook" (albeit the 17th Edition) with an initial copyright in 1914. Very cool. Will be donated to a museum, perhaps, or an engineering school.

Time to get back to the grind, but not before sending more *hearts* to slyness for your very wonderful deed.

Posted by: ftb3 | November 23, 2010 10:07 AM | Report abuse


A couple of interesting factoids about the new scanners that I've stumbled across:

"The dose to a person being scanned is only about 25 microrem, or about 1/400 (or 0.25%) of the radiation dose from a chest x-ray, which typically gives you 10000 microrem (10 millirem) at a medical center."

"a person would have to be scanned by the airport x-ray scanners more than 1,000 times in a 12-month period (which is more than 19 times every week) to exceed the 25 millirem (25,000 microrem) per year limit set in national standards for the dose limit to an individual of the general public from general use by these x-ray screening systems. ... And remember every day we received about 310 millirem per year from naturally occurring radiation by living on planet Earth"

As I've said, irrational fears over radiation are a big driver of the current kerfuffle. *SIGH*

Posted by: Scottynuke | November 23, 2010 10:24 AM | Report abuse

Good to see you have a 2nd Edition of Joy.

Have you tried the pound cake yet?

Cream 1 pound of butter...

Posted by: wiredog | November 23, 2010 10:29 AM | Report abuse

Wilbrod, I might've missed the response in my quick backboodle, but yes, there are honorifics in modern Greek. I have a slew of older aunts that we simply directly address as "Thea." "Theo" would be Uncle, I think, but I don't have many of those.

On a side note, "Yia-yia" is grandmother and "Pa-pou" is grandfather, but I don't think it's common to use them for someone not a blood relative.

OK, now to actually read the kit...

Posted by: MoftheMountain | November 23, 2010 10:31 AM | Report abuse

Oil is hard.

Posted by: ebtnut | November 23, 2010 10:33 AM | Report abuse

I hadda Google it, and I'm guessing I'm not alone:

WMGNFRB = Would Make Good Name For Rock Band.

Learned there is a Dave Barry variant, WBAGNFARB ("would be a good name for a rock band"). Amazingly, Google already understands this, and re-directs WMGNFRB to WBAGNFARB. That someone was able to write an algorithm to do this is both mind-boggling, and also an incredible waste of time and talent. They should be out there trying to figure out how to cyberatically destroy North Korean centrifuges. Or just go outside and play until it gets dark, or dinnertime, whichever comes first.

Posted by: curmudgeon6 | November 23, 2010 10:36 AM | Report abuse

Oh come on, Mudge, it's a natural.

Derrick Mast, former lead guitarist with the Mud Pumps, and his BFF drummer Jimmy "Moister Hoister" Drillstring have combined their talents in the new group Downhole Tools, whose hit single "Drilling Me, Drilling You" has topped the charts this week.

This stuff writes itself.

Posted by: kguy1 | November 23, 2010 10:56 AM | Report abuse

"Mud Pumps" ??? Isn't that when it rains and you've got your best shoes on and ....

Hmmm. Guess not, eh?

Posted by: ftb3 | November 23, 2010 11:10 AM | Report abuse

No, kguy, self-evidently it isn't. If it was, I wouldn't have had to look it up, now, would I?

Posted by: curmudgeon6 | November 23, 2010 11:22 AM | Report abuse

Joel has the answer to his literary dilemma right there in the third paragraph. I'm sure the Standard Handbook will be more palatable and much more easily digested with the addition of bacon.

Posted by: Ivansmom | November 23, 2010 11:26 AM | Report abuse

That's a clever observation, Joel. There are all sorts of analogies out there. It's what keeps process engineers in business. My favorite is between home computers and children. Both often don't do what you want, catch viruses, need constant maintenance, and have some really expensive accessories. Granted, children do have certain undeniable advantages. But at least the computer is guaranteed to remember your birthday.

Posted by: RD_Padouk | November 23, 2010 11:28 AM | Report abuse

We know Joel makes chili, and he's referenced beef stew. Do we know the other three of the only five things he cooks?

Posted by: curmudgeon6 | November 23, 2010 11:34 AM | Report abuse

I'd have to hope he's got a Bacon Explosion on the list, 'Mudge...

Posted by: Scottynuke | November 23, 2010 11:43 AM | Report abuse

Why am I suddenly hungry?

Posted by: MsJS | November 23, 2010 11:45 AM | Report abuse

Time for the Thanksgiving tale...

There's the old wedding adage, "Something borrowed, something blue," but for this wedding tale that I intend to share over the next two days, the adage might better be altered to "Something borrowed, something lavender or purple." In fact, this wedding might not have been pulled off at all if everything had not been borrowed.

On Friday, Sept. 17, my husband and I decided to visit Plymouth, Massachusetts. Our plan that morning was to gave a good-sized breakfast at a small breakfast place along Plymouth's main street, a small eatery I had eyed on our way to Cape Cod on the Tuesday of that week. We had to hoist our umbrellas above our heads to walk from the parking lot, up the hill to the cozy restaurant, to keep from getting drenched.

That morning our plan also included touring the Mayflower II. It was wet, it was drizzly and rainy, it was blustery, but we spent a long time touring the craft, mostly below decks, talking with reenactors, including the saucy wench Mrs. Brewster and other kindly goodwives, a deck hand, and a knowledgeable female staff member who was not a reenactor and who would recommend a good read, Morton's and Dempsey's "New English Canaan."

As fate would have it, I ended up also in a pleasant conversation with Bill Knowles, Guest Services, Maritime Departments at Plimoth Plantations, once I had taken a few steps away from the ship. It was he who invited us to Saturday's wedding at Plimoth Plantation. Since he and the staff who were scheduled to work on the Mayflower II the following day couldn't attend the ceremony, he ripped the wedding announcement from the stapled sheaf of papers he was carrying and handed it to me.

It is here on pages 4 and 5 (and not Gov. Bradford's reenacted wedding on page 1), with an important error in the announcement):

Since we were chilled by the dank, damp weather, we immediately, after crossing the street, from the ship and the bay area, ducked into one of the T-shirt shops across the street for warm hoodies, the Honduran-made garment $15 in Plymouth and $48 out on the Cape. Our apparel now screamed "Tourist!" and brought us under close scruntiny from retired math teacher Claire Driscoll, after we had marched several hundred paces up the hill from the harbor, the extremely friendly encounter with Claire leading us into the pleasant clutches of Leo Miller, and smack dab into tales of Hollywood.

Posted by: laloomis | November 23, 2010 12:02 PM | Report abuse

SCC: Theos (θείος), Thea is θεία

See kids, that's what happens when you drop out of Greek school...

I aspired to own a copy of Joy of Cooking at an early age. Somewhere at age ten I started dropping hints that I thought "Joy of Cooking" and a Kitchen Aid stand mixer were perfect wedding gifts. Mom got them for my sister and I the Christmas before I got married.

I love my JoC, and I refer to it often, but there's one truth to almost any recipe I've made from it: you will dirty every pot or bowl you own.


Posted by: MoftheMountain | November 23, 2010 12:13 PM | Report abuse

When I was a kid, I envisioned Campbell as having oil-refinery sized facilities to extract broth from the leftovers of producing boned chicken and turkey.

When I took introductory physical geology, there was plenty of chemistry and simple physics, not much math.

Joel seems to have gotten the perfect Princeton pairing: Deffeyes for geology (Joel seems to have not responded to the siren call to be an earth science major) and McPhee, who had been guided through quite a bit of geology by Deffeyes.

Posted by: DaveoftheCoonties | November 23, 2010 12:19 PM | Report abuse

When I read Joel's title for this piece, "The Joy of Drilling," I was wondering if I'd see some tasteful hand-drawn illustrations to go with the text.

Surprised that there's no admonition here that offshore drilling operations are best conducted with all parties' legal consent, preferably in warm clear waters off of a secluded beach.

I know - I'm a stickler for dotting the i's and crossing the t's.


(PS Or is that crossing the i's and dotting the t's?)

Posted by: -bc- | November 23, 2010 12:20 PM | Report abuse

And indeed, I agree almost everything can be made better with bacon.

*Almost* -- but it's a matter of personal preference.


Posted by: -bc- | November 23, 2010 12:22 PM | Report abuse

I heartily recommend the Justin Wilson/south Louisiana method: every recipe involves a six-pack of beer. Three go into the recipe, and the other three you drink while you're cooking.

Oh, perhaps I should clarify. I recommend that method for COOKING, not for DRILLING.

Posted by: ArmyBrat1 | November 23, 2010 1:13 PM | Report abuse

When I read Joel's title for this piece, "The Joy of Drilling," I was wondering if I'd see some tasteful hand-drawn illustrations to go with the text. -bc- ______________________


My mom once had a local bookstore she did a lot of business with look out for a good, used copy of the Joy of Cooking to send to her sister, my aunt. The bookstore found one, wrapped it and shipped it off to my senior citizen, widowed-for-25-years aunt on the West Coast. I wish I could have seen her face when she opened the package and it was actually The Joy of Sex. My mom and my aunt are good catholic girls and generally not inclined to discuss such things. If someone at the bookstore hadn't discovered the mix up and called my mother apologizing profusely we would never have known. My aunt had no intention of ever mentioning it, but was extremely relieved to discover it was the bookstore who thought she needed such a book.

Posted by: veritasinmedium | November 23, 2010 1:14 PM | Report abuse

I brought some of the apple green chile pie into work for comments. So far I have one "fabulous", some "good", a lot of "interesting", and a couple of flat "wrong". We did agree that it would be improved by cutting the sugar and apples, adding some cheese, and throwing in a lot of bacon. Of course, it wouldn't really be an apple pie, then.

Posted by: Ivansmom | November 23, 2010 1:17 PM | Report abuse

Is there finally hope for the sanity of American TV viewers???

Probably not, but schadenfreude took over my hands for a moment... :-)

Posted by: Scottynuke | November 23, 2010 1:19 PM | Report abuse

kguy you owe me a keyboard


No more carefree laughter
Silence ever after
Falling through the blackened hole, we were destroyed
Here is where the story ends, this is goodbye

Drilling me, drilling you
Is all I ever wanted to do
Drilling me, drilling you
We just did it until all the oil was through

Burning up was so easy, you know
I never felt the death blow
Drilling me, drilling you
Was the best I could do

Posted by: DNA_Girl | November 23, 2010 1:42 PM | Report abuse

After a week of winter storm warnings here in the banana belt we finally had enough snow to cover the bare spots but not enough to cover all the green in the lawn
Partly cloudy is also partly sunny. Little ice crystals fall when a cloud passes by.

Posted by: bh72 | November 23, 2010 1:51 PM | Report abuse

An article with the boodles name all over it.

Posted by: dmd3 | November 23, 2010 1:57 PM | Report abuse

Been putting out extra bird seed. The titmouse and nuthatch seem to be very inefficient feeders. They take one sunflower seed and fly far away to eat it before coming back for another. The oregon juncos just sit in the feeder and gorge.
The quail travel around the property in a great circle coming by the feeding area just before first light, a couple times during the day and then just before full darkness.
The jays sit around a wait for me to come out and throw seed the descend en-mass to get the good bits.

Posted by: bh72 | November 23, 2010 2:01 PM | Report abuse

I'm missing one of the key ingredients in *my* homemade version of cranberry sauce, which necessitates a run to the store, so before I launch into Leo Miller and Hollywood in Plymouth, I'll mention the following...

The area north and south of Boston is not unfamiliar terrain to those in Sunny Southern California CameraLand.

The actress Elissa Forsythe, "Rachel Revere" and affiliated with the Freedom Trail Foundation, who was the tour guide on the second Freedom Trail tour that I took, had a funny tale, a firsthand experience, while guiding children during a tour of Boston's North End...sounds of gunfire coming from the set in Charlestown, across the Charles River, during the filming of Ben Affleck's "The Town." (Take the Freedom Trail tour and let Elissa tell her story, although she shared this with me while we were seated, chatting, before the hour-long tour.)

The Quarterdeck, a gift shop at the far north end of Front Street in Scituate, was shut down for three days so it could be used, some years ago, as Cher's shop in "The Witches of Eastwick."

The more recent arrival of star power in the Greater Boston area is Steve Carell of "The Office" fame, who recently purchased the General Store in Marshfield Hills and left it almost exactly the way it is! I talked with a woman, a blonde, who said she's the person from whom Carrell bought it--and she was in just working on a temporary basis. The store did have three baseball caps signed on the inside by Carrell, purposely tattered and gray, with "The Office" logo on the front, retailing for about $24. My first stop, however, was a drive-by of the old Rogers library.

Posted by: laloomis | November 23, 2010 2:03 PM | Report abuse

Ivansmom, you're right, that would be bacon-cheese-apple-chile quiche, which sounds pretty good.

I'm playing hooky from work - an unpaid snow day - because there's not a bus running within 2 miles of me. Just got done scraping the snow off our sidewalks. We got about 3 inches, which wouldn't be paralyzing except for the steep hills, which abound here. Also it turned to ice on the streets. Only supposed to get to 25 degrees today - sunny, blue sky, beautiful day.

Posted by: seasea1 | November 23, 2010 2:08 PM | Report abuse

Excerpt from “The Joy of Drilling,” page 248-9:

Macondo Surprise

For an interesting change of pace from the routine, there are few things more exciting than this mélange that gives whole new meaning to “discomfort food.” It is an unusual infusion of cuisine from two very different cultures, melding aspects of the British Empire noblesse oblige in its colonial days to a blend of 21st century Texas Wildcatting “git-‘er-done, son” oilfield haste and negligence worthy of a J. R. Ewing, and a traditional rue [sic] of Louisiana Cajun suffering and scapegoating.

Although the recipe for Macondo Surprise looks difficult, novice cooks and bakers may take comfort in knowing that many of the seemingly complex readings and ambiguous test results from intermediate steps can be safely ignored. Traditionally, the heart of any good Surprise was the “filling” that held the other ingredients together, keeping the fragile shale in place and stabilizing the mixture as it rises. The majority of pans used for most Macondo recipes are, of course, shallow, but one element of the Macondo Surprise is it requires a spring-form deep-dish containment system, and that means there are five different layers or “sands,” each of differing consistency and viscosity. “Old school” Cordon Bleu chefs adhering closely to their LaRousse Gastronomique will prepare a separate and individualized filling for each “sand,” as necessary. But this is where the fusion of Texas machismo and efficiency comes into play, substituting one simple easy-to-prepare Halliburton-based one-size-fits-all filling in lieu of the five complex ones, thus giving the Macondo dish its well-earned name of “Surprise.”


18,000+ linear feet, 7-inch steel pipe (have some extra available to dust the breadboard)
5-6,000 feet hose (waterproof)
1 Wellhead (submersible type)
1 Top Hat (can be new or used/old. Don’t worry about the batteries)
Oil (EVOO or Peanut Oil not recommended)
2,000 bags cement, Portland Type III, High Early
6 robots, submersible
3 metric tons, GasEx, in case of unexpected kicking
3 metric tons, Beano, also for unexpected kicking
200 pounds Habanero chilis, sun-dried and diced, for heat. Because this is, after all, a Texas dish.
1 ton, Filé powder
Misc. cement additives, herbs and spices, to taste
Water, as necessary to mix cement “filling” to "peanut butter" consistency (tap water is fine; do not chill)

Posted by: curmudgeon6 | November 23, 2010 2:11 PM | Report abuse

Finger-lickin' good!

Posted by: DNA_Girl | November 23, 2010 2:20 PM | Report abuse

You forgot the bacon, Mudge.

Posted by: -pj- | November 23, 2010 2:28 PM | Report abuse

MSg to Don/270. You can hug my children, who are 1/4 Norwegian. Me? Well, 100% of the green stuff.

Since you said, Norwegian, then you may appreciate this viraling video message from the University of Bergan, cajoling students to NOT PLAGIARIZE...with showtunes and a set moment of cleaVEEGE....

Click cc on the lower right for English subtitles.

Posted by: CollegeQuaParkian1 | November 23, 2010 2:33 PM | Report abuse

Touche', Mudge. Finger-lickin'good!

Posted by: talitha1 | November 23, 2010 2:35 PM | Report abuse

Hah, DNA_Girl! I wasn't going to mention which finger I had in mind, but I will now. 8~)

Posted by: talitha1 | November 23, 2010 2:39 PM | Report abuse

Thank you, PJ.

SCC: Between the robots and the GasEx, please insert:

400 pounds bacon, Applewood-smoked, thick cut, diced and browned to crispy. N.B. New Yorkers in general and any Italians anywhere may substitute prosciutto.

Posted by: curmudgeon6 | November 23, 2010 2:42 PM | Report abuse

I'll take the prosciutto, Mudge. Thanks. Delish.

Posted by: CollegeQuaParkian1 | November 23, 2010 2:46 PM | Report abuse

WMGNFRB/WBAGNFARB: Justin Case and the Macando Blues Explosion?

Posted by: lostnspace | November 23, 2010 2:57 PM | Report abuse

May I have extra bacon on mine, please?

Posted by: Scottynuke | November 23, 2010 3:00 PM | Report abuse

Mudge, many Italians would use pancetta instead - that's what I think of as Italian bacon, anyway.

Not that there's anything wrong with proscuitto, but I tend to use that more like thinly sliced ham.


Posted by: -bc- | November 23, 2010 3:02 PM | Report abuse

Pancetta, petit fumé, bacon; it's all lard. Lard lubricates the world and makes it go around smoothly. Ever wonder why lardless regions of the world are such hotbeds of discontent?

Posted by: shrieking_denizen | November 23, 2010 3:15 PM | Report abuse

I have a very old copy of Thermodynamic Properties Of Steam. It's very cool that somebody filled hundreds of pages with values taken to four decimal places.

Posted by: yellojkt | November 23, 2010 3:18 PM | Report abuse

And folks say there ain't no such a thing as karma-

Posted by: kguy1 | November 23, 2010 3:24 PM | Report abuse

My ultimate nerd rock band name would be Johnny Derivative and The Indefinite Integrals. I'd be their keytarist.

Posted by: yellojkt | November 23, 2010 3:26 PM | Report abuse

My ultimate nerd rock band name would be Johnny Derivative and The Indefinite Integrals. I'd be their keytarist.

Posted by: yellojkt | November 23, 2010 3:27 PM | Report abuse

Does any of those fancy engineering books tell you how many of those canapés of a piece of cantaloupe wrapped with prosciutto and skewered on a toothpick it would have taken to plug the Macondo well? Probably not. We'd have to send Mudge, Jose Andres, and Jacques Pepin down there to finish the job.

Posted by: -pj- | November 23, 2010 3:33 PM | Report abuse

When I was in college at Fresno State our thermo professor was a fanic about super heated steam tables. Would come in hours before class to get the engines and turbines up to temp for us to take measurements.
Funny his mother's business was aluminum ladders.
He tried aluminum swamp cooler water pans but forgot to mention not to install them with steel nails. Admitted he got a lot of returns.
He also promoted insulating the crawl space under houses and heat pumping hot air under the house in the fog bound icy winters of Fresno. Apparently the the negative heat source of the earth was more that he calculated.

Posted by: bh72 | November 23, 2010 3:37 PM | Report abuse

Thanks, Mudge. I was looking for a good hearty post-Thanksgiving meal. Cooking this should take most of the weekend. Scottynuke, I'll sprinkle bacon on top.

Posted by: Ivansmom | November 23, 2010 3:38 PM | Report abuse

Theos= god, Thea=goddess, too, are they not?
That's QUITE a honorific. Now I have to figure out how I can convince my nephews and nieces to call me "Goddess."

Mudge, thanks for the tidbit on the Abraham of the Tuatara.

Such a charming story about wrinkled lizards finding romance in their golden years. I found a picture of the proud papa.

Posted by: Wilbrod_Gnome | November 23, 2010 3:43 PM | Report abuse

kguy, did you notice the glaring incongruity in that article?

The woman with the best fake boobs "won a flat in Budapest."

Playboy's Unabashed Dictionary would call that adding insult to surgery.

Posted by: byoolin1 | November 23, 2010 3:46 PM | Report abuse

Thanks, bc. I actually meant panchetta, but wrote prsciutto. Brain cramp.

SCC: For pprosciutto, substitute panchetta, except CqP, who can have anything she wants.

Wilbrod, that lizard story gets even more fascinating when one learns the tualuralura doesn't have an "organ of intromission," a lovely euphemism if I ever heard one for an iguana's johnson.

It calls to mind for me the name Organ of Intromission Cheney.

Posted by: curmudgeon6 | November 23, 2010 3:55 PM | Report abuse

BC, was served raw pancetta that typical?

Can, Mudge, how about a gallon of ACME Panacea? Fax is set to receive drums, for the next ten minutes.

Posted by: CollegeQuaParkian1 | November 23, 2010 4:05 PM | Report abuse

And, for the record, I really like the music played by organs during intermission.


Posted by: CollegeQuaParkian1 | November 23, 2010 4:10 PM | Report abuse

A friend said: 'She had not got used to the extra weight on top and her new hair extensions got in her eyes - she just lost her balance and tore a ligament in her foot badly.'

There a song lyric in there somewhere.

They asked me how I knew
My big boobs were new
Oh, I of course replied
Something here inside cannot be denied

They said someday you'll find
All your clothes will bind
Oh, when your heart's on fire
You must realize
Hair gets in your eyes

Posted by: kguy1 | November 23, 2010 4:27 PM | Report abuse

Love your Macondo Surprise Mudge, I'll try it this weekend if I can find the herbs and spices (have everything else!).

Very nice lyric kguy. Is it just me, or is the world teetering on the brink of total insanity?

Posted by: badsneakers | November 23, 2010 4:33 PM | Report abuse

No organ of intromission? Does it mean that iguana p0rn is advertized a being full of cloaca on cloaca action?

Posted by: shrieking_denizen | November 23, 2010 4:37 PM | Report abuse

As I mentioned, my husband and I met retired math teacher Claire Driscoll above the main highway that ran through Plymouth that Friday, Sept. 17.

We had hoped to take a tour of Plymouth Bay, but there were too many whitecaps, too much chop, and too much chill to make it a pleasant outing. Claire has to be the most outgoing Irishwomen and engaging conversationalists I've encountered. She had mentioned that her daughter had sent her the book about Clara Driscoll, saviour of the Alamo, so the connection between us cemented pretty quickly.

Claire was a very enthusiastic and big booster of the tour of the local grist mill by Leo Miller and strongly encouraged us to make the excursion. We were on our way to see Plymouth's oldest surviving building, with plans immediately thereafter to drive south to Plimoth Plantation. So, with Claire's blessing, we diverted our steps, changed our plans, and descended the few steps to Jenney's grist mill to acquaint ourselves with Leo Miller.

Now, Leo's name is not really Miller, but Martin, but, in character, he goes by Leo Miller or Leo the Miller. You can see a still photo of Leo here (although not his wife Nancy who helps him run the attraction), in his period trousers and hat, and the mill itself.

Better yet, here's Leo on YouTube, but this presentation is but a small sample of the excellent and reasonably priced escorted tour that Leo gives of the mill.

He was the go-to person for information about Plymouth and Hollywood, and got in on a bit of the lights, camera, action himself fairly recently.

Posted by: laloomis | November 23, 2010 4:50 PM | Report abuse

Close, Wilbrod. :)

Of course I'm not sure being equated to anyone in the Greek pantheon is a compliment. They trend towards pettiness a bit.

θεά (theh-ah, short e) is goddess. θεία (thee-ah, long e) is aunt.

θεός (theh-ohs, short e) is god. θείος (thee-os, long e) is uncle.

Those diphthongs will get you every time.

Posted by: MoftheMountain | November 23, 2010 4:56 PM | Report abuse

I can't wear dipthongs, MotM. They always seem too loose or too tight.

Maybe goddesses have better luck.

Pumpkin bread and spiced tea, anyone?

Posted by: MsJS | November 23, 2010 5:10 PM | Report abuse

lol, I can only set them up, someone else has got to knock 'em out of the park.

Posted by: MoftheMountain | November 23, 2010 5:15 PM | Report abuse

The problem with the 2:11 recipe goes back to a bit of kitchen wisdom: A watched pot (Or should that be pit?) never boils.

What's missing is a healthy dose of MMS-Majorly Missing Supervision.

Posted by: laloomis | November 23, 2010 5:23 PM | Report abuse

Unfortunately, the MMS had a bit too big of a dash of MSG--Malapropos Sex & Gifts.

Posted by: laloomis | November 23, 2010 5:29 PM | Report abuse

From AP reporting about a minute ago at the NYT:

"Undercover (Or should that be underwear)tests by government security experts factored into the Obama administration's decision to use a more thorough pat-down so that screeners can catch a bomb hidden in a traveler's underwear."

Why just not ask all men, women and children to drop their drawers as part of the procedure? Would screeners be able to detect a bomb vs. a Depends or a menstrual pad? How many copycat underwear bombers does the TSA expect?

About five minutes ago at the NYT, AP also reporting that the first lawsuit has been filed by an Arkansas man against the TSA and its more invasive screening procedures.

Posted by: laloomis | November 23, 2010 5:40 PM | Report abuse

baldinho, your 11:12 post over on
PostPartisan was fabulous!

Posted by: MsJS | November 23, 2010 5:42 PM | Report abuse

Thanks, M o' the Mount. I'll still take "goodess" as a honorific-- 'tis vastly closer to "goddess" than to "busybody insect."

Lucky lizard not to worry about size, then, Mudge.

Posted by: Wilbrod_Gnome | November 23, 2010 6:10 PM | Report abuse

The 'no organ of intromission' descriptor jumped out (*snort*) when I read the lizardo article, too. I seem to remember ... but hope to forget.

I had the coolest afternoon. Went out to shop for the last items for the Thursday feastie ... several different folks, just acquaintances, greeted me and wished me the best for the holiday saying, "I know you've had a rough few months so I hope you're doing better ... I've been thinking about you."

I realized that, with my son's joy in his new home, with the support of my family and friends from afar (oh ye boodlers, one and all), with my work and my home here in the gorgeous mountians ... I am SO blessed. Any of the heartache and disillusionment, though they linger, are nothing compared with the true blessings I have in life.

Thanks be ...

Posted by: talitha1 | November 23, 2010 6:13 PM | Report abuse

Thanks be, indeed!

Posted by: MsJS | November 23, 2010 6:28 PM | Report abuse

talitha, my eyes got misty reading your post, so happy you are able to find such joy - may it continue.

Posted by: dmd3 | November 23, 2010 6:41 PM | Report abuse

faxing glazed yammy hugs (mixed with walnuts, pineapple chunks and brown sugar (but not too much)) to talitha.

Posted by: ftb3 | November 23, 2010 7:07 PM | Report abuse

Raise the song of harvest home .....

Posted by: talitha1 | November 23, 2010 7:09 PM | Report abuse

What economic crisis? The rich is doing very well, thank you. And at a low tax rate to boot.

"The nation’s workers may be struggling, but American companies just had their best quarter ever. American businesses earned profits at an annual rate of $1.659 trillion in the third quarter, according to a Commerce Department report released Tuesday. That is the highest figure recorded since the government began keeping track over 60 years ago, at least in nominal or noninflation-adjusted terms."

Posted by: shrieking_denizen | November 23, 2010 7:12 PM | Report abuse

LOL, ftb ... I only eat my 'yammies' baked in the jacket, split and buttered with pepper ...

but your sweetness is held tight and close!!!

Posted by: talitha1 | November 23, 2010 7:12 PM | Report abuse

MsJS, dmd, ftb ... *verklempt*

That goes for the rest of you! Those of you who are traveling ... do be safe! A 'drumstick' (or a wing, my favorite part) for every one and each of your kith and kin.

Posted by: talitha1 | November 23, 2010 7:21 PM | Report abuse

No long car trips here;
Just long weekends of walks, snow
and chinese takeout.


Posted by: Wilbrod_Gnome | November 23, 2010 7:49 PM | Report abuse

I have a terrible confession to make: even though it is really lame, I just love to follow "The Phantom."

Posted by: ScienceTim | November 23, 2010 8:00 PM | Report abuse

The Ghost Who Walks, Tim? Me, too!

Posted by: curmudgeon6 | November 23, 2010 8:04 PM | Report abuse

You are forgiven SciTim. Of course, I mostly like it because I think "Devil" is a cool name for a canine.

Posted by: RD_Padouk | November 23, 2010 8:05 PM | Report abuse

Talitha, very glad you felt the warmth of your community and are the better for it. There's nothing like gratefulness to take away pain and sorrow. You are strong and you will be well and happy.

Are many of the Boodlers traveling far this weekend? We will be taking a quick trip over the bridge to #1's house. She is a bit concerned that the time of the football game and that of the dinner are pretty much the same. I told her we'd check the game in shifts so not to worry about disruption ;-)

Posted by: badsneakers | November 23, 2010 8:07 PM | Report abuse

Wilbrod, I'll be with you in spirit on Thursday then, if not in words, here on the boodle ... devoutly to be wished. I'm doing a "pantry-Thanksgiving" supplemented with a roasted chicken with pototoes, carrots and onions. My pantry is a constant surprise!

I was afraid I'd "kilt it" so I found this to shake it up ... might as well post. (Have been thinking about John Candy - Planes, Trains ... anyway.)

Posted by: talitha1 | November 23, 2010 8:10 PM | Report abuse

The Phantom! Back in my radiodays we had an old-pro dj on board who could voice Lamar Cranston (the Shadow) to a tee. We got hold of some of those old scripts, and scripts from other classic radio, so that we could perform them live.

Did a little of Mudge's old friend, Willie Shakes, too ... anything to keep ourselves and our captive audience (no TV up there in those days) entertained. What fun.

Posted by: talitha1 | November 23, 2010 8:26 PM | Report abuse

Oh dear! I was going to invite you, Talitha, to Canadian Thanksgiving in the hip urban condo (one of these years) but I cannot fight over the dark bits of the bird with anyone. I *only* like dark meat (no snickering, please) and am a bit territorial about it.

Oh well, there is always plenty of dressing and gravy, so perhaps I'll share (but only with you).

Posted by: Yoki | November 23, 2010 8:36 PM | Report abuse

We can always nibble on phantom wings, Yoki!
Leave the thighs and breasteses to the oooooglers!

Wish I could share some of my great-great grandmother's cornbread dressing with everyone. It is to devour and rejoice. Dragonhead is making it solo this year for the first time ... having a gathering in his new home ... but he's seen me make it so many times (and consulted me often over the last few days) ... I know it will come out fine.

Amazing that a recipe from my great-great, who sent her husband off from Georgia to fight in "that war" 150 years ago, is now being made by my son in a new home in the redwoods of California. I marvel.

Posted by: talitha1 | November 23, 2010 8:51 PM | Report abuse

Thanks, MsJs. I rather liked that one. A repost:

The dream finale of DWTS: Bristol and her partner come out dressed as Beauty and the Beast. They dance magically, better than at any other time. As they finish, the crowd explodes in applause. They are announced as the winner, and as the guy goes up to interview them, her partner removes his mask. OH MY GOD! IT'S LEVI JOHNSTON! He drops to a knee and proposes. Bristol, breathless, accepts!

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Posted by: baldinho | November 23, 2010 8:53 PM | Report abuse

Lamont Cranston! That reminds me that in the early '80s CBS developed a pilot for an action-comedy starring Susan Anton called "Sue." She portrayed a plucky ornithologist in Southern California who became aware that a family of bald eagles living in a park in the Watts area of LA had been illegally lured to a property near Seal Beach owned by the eccentric Chinese oenologist Lin Cho Ben and she had to try to rescue them. The original title was, of course, "Sue knows Watts eagles lurk in the vines of Ben."

Posted by: -pj- | November 23, 2010 8:53 PM | Report abuse

It was news to me, conveyed by Plymouth grist mill tour guide Leo Miller, that Stephen Spielberg had picked up fairly recently the option to film Nathaniel Phibrick's book "Mayflower."

Yet, the only mention I can find of the Stephen S.-Stephen P. deal on the web is in this article from Quincy, Massachusset's Patriot Ledger, the significant graf buried toward the end of the reporting about the proposal to build Plymouth Rock Studios. Leo Miller wasn't shedding many tears about the loss of a local golf course to a film production outfit...there are a number of additional golf courses around the area.:

Apparently, the plans for Plymouth Rock Studios stumbled this spring...

Of course, it never hurts to get a bunch of cute kids in on promoting the filming of the story of the Pilgrims in Plymouth itself. Wonder if 100 third-graders in Nova Scotia are also pulling out their crayons? Ready, set, draw!

Posted by: laloomis | November 23, 2010 8:55 PM | Report abuse

SCC: Stephen S.- Nathaniel P. deal

Posted by: laloomis | November 23, 2010 8:57 PM | Report abuse

SCC: Philbrick...

Too much cooking! The "Monumental" story can wait. Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.

Posted by: laloomis | November 23, 2010 9:02 PM | Report abuse

Did I write "Lamar"? Mercy, help.

Thanks for the correction, pj!

Posted by: talitha1 | November 23, 2010 9:02 PM | Report abuse

I know I'm not ready for Pilgrims tales. If you've ever been on the replica of the Mayflower ... oh, never mind.

Badsneakers, you and I once spoke here of the Plymouth Thanksgiving Parade (and music extravaganza) which took place, once again, last weekend. As I recall you live near there? Just wondering how it went this year because I always enjoyed being up there for that overblown but "totally cool" celebration.

Posted by: talitha1 | November 23, 2010 9:14 PM | Report abuse

My bestest idea yet to make Congress less partisan: amend the Constitution to set up a "voir dire" session as each new class of those elected to the House and Senate come in.

Each party gets to publicly question all the incoming members of the other party. Each party gets to reject up to 5 House members and one Senator.

Those that are rejected are replaced by other members of their own party... so the ratio of Congress doesn't change, only the actual people that take office.

Wouldn't THAT make people more likely to play friendly, huh?

Posted by: baldinho | November 23, 2010 9:15 PM | Report abuse

We made it as far as Kannapolis tonight after a delightful dinner at Speedy's in Lexington. The size and quality of the sides, especially the slaw and the potoato salad, had us moaning in delight.

Tomorrow I'm going to see if I can get a last minute tour reservation at that factory in Spartanburg. I've always told my son that if we ever show up on campus in a Z4 to not bother registering for the next semester.

Posted by: yellojkt | November 23, 2010 9:26 PM | Report abuse

Talitha, I was working last Saturday so missed the parade. Truthfully, I might have missed it anyway as the crowd is huge (175,000 estimated) and parking at such a premium that we'd probably have to just walk from here. There's talk of expanding the festivities to encourage more tourism. I'm not sure what that would involve.

Posted by: badsneakers | November 23, 2010 9:41 PM | Report abuse

yello, beware of Spartanburg .....

Are you on I-85? Be afraid. The Mayflower crossing doesn't scare me as much as driving to Hotlanta at Thanksgiving ... or driving back home to the greater DC area afterward.

Don't make me bring up the Big Peach!

Posted by: talitha1 | November 23, 2010 9:44 PM | Report abuse

Sneaks, it's ALWAYS that big! I've been attending as an "adjunct of" for years. The assembling of the parade marchers starts at 4:30am. The viewers assemble on the high hill looking out across the harbor starting about 7:00.

I learned to just meander through town and find a spot high up to view the parade. After I'd clamber back down and partake in the tent "clam chowder cookoff" (while all the parade participants collected their breath -es-). Later I'd go to the "armory" to watch the fife/bugle/drum corps strut their stuff. A total trip ... and a "You Had To Be There" experience.

My favorite place in Plymouth is the diner downtown on the main drag that makes a green omelet ... tons of strong coffee on the side. Always crowded with locals ogling the day-trippers. Find a corner seat and have a ball.

Posted by: talitha1 | November 23, 2010 9:58 PM | Report abuse


This peach?

The one with the rather plumber-crackish cleft in it?

My wife went to to Garnder Webb when it was a Division III college before it was a Division 1A powerhouse University. The peach was the landmark telling me to get off at the Gaffney/Boiling Springs exit.

Last year we were making great time up I-95 after seeing my cousin and her partner and their chickens in Richmond. That was until we hit Fredericksburg and came to a complete standstill for two hours. This year I am investigating alternative routes and I am open to suggestions. The more scenic and the less crowded, the better.

Posted by: yellojkt | November 23, 2010 10:09 PM | Report abuse

Well, maybe someday Talitha. We have friends who live closer to downtown so if we could walk from there... As you can tell, I'm not overly enthusiastic about it all. Maybe living so close to it makes me take it all for granted.

Posted by: badsneakers | November 23, 2010 10:11 PM | Report abuse

Hummm, yoki, they weather people are jesting about this -30C in Calgary and -35C in Edmonton right now, right? There is a meaningful football game scheduled in Edmonton next Sunday. Outside. Would it be too late to reschedule for San Diego or Honolulu?

Posted by: shrieking_denizen | November 23, 2010 10:13 PM | Report abuse

have a ball ... figuratively speaking, o'course!

badsneaks, I get what you're saying. When the hordes descend on any 'tourist destination' the locals know better and make judicious calculations. Stay away or else. I know from visiting the headquarters (the promoters of the Plymouth event) that there have been contentious and convoluted expectations and preparations. There were a couple of years that "certain musical participants" were marginalized or downright excluded ... for many reasons, financial and aesthetically.

Still ... the community seems to embrace all the positives/semi-negitives of the event and, from what I have experienced .....? It sure beats the "Broadway/Macy's Thanksgiving Day Parade on TV" by a long shot.

1000% better!

Posted by: talitha1 | November 23, 2010 10:16 PM | Report abuse

My cousin and her partner and their guinea hens:

They also had about a half-dozen free range regular chickens you can see if you check out the other pictures in the set.

I think the two of them have taken up goat-herding on my uncle's farm in Maryland, but the Facebook updates are cryptic.

Posted by: yellojkt | November 23, 2010 10:18 PM | Report abuse

Hard to keep up when we're posting so quickly!

What the freak Big Peach did you THINK I was talking about, yello? Is there another one? The first time my sister and I drove down together for Christmas after I moved back East (son was five) she had it on her "Radar" and yelled us both awake with these words ---- "Hey, y'all want to see the biggest butt-crack on the East Coast? Remember, you're in South Carolina."

Dragonhead says he's never forgotten waiting for that next five miles to roll by --- and he was not disappointed.

Now, we've got to talk about the Big Chicken on U.S. 41. Bwaak-Bwaak

Posted by: talitha1 | November 23, 2010 10:27 PM | Report abuse

The Big Chicken never seemed all that big a deal except as a Marietta landmark for giving directions. All radio ads for local businesses marked their location by proximity to the BC.

Posted by: yellojkt | November 23, 2010 10:35 PM | Report abuse

I don't mean to give the impression that I'm against the parade or any of the other festivities, Talitha. I'm sure if I had young children, or if the granddaughters wanted to go (they've gone at least a few times when they lived in Plymouth), or if I had out of town guests, I'd make the effort.

Plymouth is a very large 'small' town and because of it's history, there's bound to be a lot of differing opinions among it's citizens as to the proper way to celebrate their signature holiday. Not living there, I'm not really aware of all the politics involved, but friends who do live there have mentioned some issues.

I trust your take on the whole experience as you've been there in the thick of it. If you ever come back, I'll go with you!

Posted by: badsneakers | November 23, 2010 10:35 PM | Report abuse

Om nom nom.

Get Cookie Monster to host Saturday Night Live.

Posted by: yellojkt | November 23, 2010 10:46 PM | Report abuse

Sadly, Maitre Denizen, there is nothing funny about it. This morning it was -37C *in my courtyard where there is no wind chill." It is just bitterly cold here.

Though I did go out at 17:30 to get a small bit of food, and it was only -25C, nearly no wind, so not too bad.

I don't advocate that young girls with bare legs, walk.

Posted by: Yoki | November 23, 2010 10:55 PM | Report abuse

Ahem. It is known as the Peachoid. You may Google it, o doubters.

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Posted by: Yoki | November 23, 2010 10:57 PM | Report abuse

Have a nice night all, off to see Wicked tomorrow and wander around downtown, eldest now needs a dress for the winter semi-formal so it will be a combined shopping and theatre day - plus admiring the Christmas decor, at this time of year I miss working downtown, but then I remember I had to wake up at 5:30 am and it all goes away.

Posted by: dmd3 | November 23, 2010 10:57 PM | Report abuse

Stay warm Yoki, I have been keeping quiet as we had been unseasonably warm 14C this morning but temps have dropped all day, got very windy and is now just above freezing. I am feeling less guilty.

Posted by: dmd3 | November 23, 2010 11:03 PM | Report abuse

Sneaks, my heart was in Plymouth this year because we'd missed it last year due to my husband's illness at the time. I have vendors there and had planned and saved to meet 'face to product' with them again. As things turned out, because G. left, took up with another woman, traveled to Plymouth with her and the corps ... best that I not be there, eh? It's hard ... 'nuff said.

I apologize to you if I sounded contentious. Any boodlers with tips on releasing lingering feelings of regret and bittersweetness, especially the unconscious ones I seem to release hereabouts, I would be most appreciative.

Posted by: talitha1 | November 23, 2010 11:08 PM | Report abuse

Yoki, I only like dark meat from roast turkeys too. Maybe we should start a turkey-leg pillaging party and sweep down warmer steppes and rob those sissy white-meat fanciers legless?

-35 is just awful so early. We got down to -2 last night, I think. It was in the 50's only two or three weeks ago, so I'm in shock.

Posted by: Wilbrod_Gnome | November 23, 2010 11:10 PM | Report abuse

My mother is a huge, huge Anne Murray fan (she even went to her hometown museum this summer) so that song brings back some very visceral unpleasant childhood memories. Particularly since I will be seeing her on Thursday. Thanks.

Enjoy Wicked. And defy gravity.

The official name may be Peachoid, but if you give directions relative to The Big Peach everybody but James knows exactly what you are talking about.

Posted by: yellojkt | November 23, 2010 11:13 PM | Report abuse

Oh, Talitha. I can't begin to tell you. Paper cranes, orgami quilts, mandalas, all of those can help focus energy, as can writing for yourself alone.
But in all of that, I do encourage looking to the presence of good whenever you face and exorcise evil, rather than focusing on the evil alone, and it sounds like you have managed that so far.

Posted by: Wilbrod_Gnome | November 23, 2010 11:17 PM | Report abuse


In the absence of the Bob-head, maybe Judy will do .....

Posted by: talitha1 | November 23, 2010 11:20 PM | Report abuse

My mother thought Anne Murray was Rock. So sad. So sad. But she's a lovely Mummy.

She'd think this punk was rock, too, Though it isn't.

Posted by: Yoki | November 23, 2010 11:21 PM | Report abuse

This is:

Posted by: Yoki | November 23, 2010 11:26 PM | Report abuse


Posted by: Yoki | November 23, 2010 11:31 PM | Report abuse

My mother thought Pat Boone and Harry Belafonte were Rock. Which is why I know 'Jamaica Farewell' by heart, so I guess it wasn't all bad. But she is still terrible at telling smutty jokes.

Posted by: yellojkt | November 23, 2010 11:34 PM | Report abuse

Wilbrod .....

Oh, the sisters of mercy
they are not departed or gone!
They were waiting for me
when I thought that I just can't go on ...

... If your life is a leaf
that the seasons tear off and condemn
they will bind you with love
that is graceful and green as a stem.


Posted by: talitha1 | November 23, 2010 11:35 PM | Report abuse

Gawd, She hates you all right. The stadium is sold out and Edmonton is a traditionally a great venue for the Grey Cup so it should work out. Hopefully it will warm up a bit.

Mothers can be so misleaded Yoki. I campaigned hard to have my mother named Governor General after GG Hnatyshyn's term. I figured that after a painfully unilingual Anglo (he made the Queen winced with his attempts at French) we needed the perfectly unilingual French person. No dice. To this day she refers to bad ideas as 'plan de nègre', not recognizing the slur. Talk about wincable moments.

Posted by: shrieking_denizen | November 23, 2010 11:41 PM | Report abuse

But I agree with you! We should have a unilingual Francophone GG.

I'm ashamed of ROC, that they don't come along.

Posted by: Yoki | November 23, 2010 11:54 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: talitha1 | November 24, 2010 12:00 AM | Report abuse

j, m, & j. the Hg was nearly at the point that the c and f scales intersect. autos with a manual gear box cannot be driven without a prolonged warm up. two words: block heater. without that, wait until it gets to around -20C to even think about starting the car. the coolest thing is when you turn on the defroster and it momentarily snows in the car. took me a while to reason that one out.

Posted by: -jack- | November 24, 2010 12:02 AM | Report abuse

ROC? Regular Old Canadians?

Posted by: ScienceTim | November 24, 2010 12:08 AM | Report abuse

Profound apologies for the miscued McGarrigle Sisters' link ..... not at all the song I meant to post.

Will Taj make up for it?

Posted by: talitha1 | November 24, 2010 12:10 AM | Report abuse

So sad that Kate died.

Posted by: Yoki | November 24, 2010 12:11 AM | Report abuse

Rest of Canada. Everything not Quebec.

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Posted by: Yoki | November 24, 2010 12:22 AM | Report abuse

Indeed, Yoki.

My favorite song the of the McG sisters' was this one, but I've never been able to find their original. Iris and EmmyLou do a pretty sweet version .....

Posted by: talitha1 | November 24, 2010 12:28 AM | Report abuse

Indeed, Talitha.

Posted by: Yoki | November 24, 2010 12:32 AM | Report abuse

My grandmother's cottage was on River Road in county Lennox and Addington:

Posted by: Yoki | November 24, 2010 12:48 AM | Report abuse

Indeedy-do, Yoki.
(cracks me up that you and I use that "indeed" with one another so often!)

Taj and Co. played the T'ride Opera House, followed by this gentleman*, then Leon Russell, George Harrison and Dylan during one memorable festival week.

I connect "Gone Fishin'" with this ... must be his cane*, or that dog with a stick. ;)

Posted by: talitha1 | November 24, 2010 1:09 AM | Report abuse

I'm to bed, but leave you all with Johnny Lang, and the blues guitar.

Posted by: Yoki | November 24, 2010 1:22 AM | Report abuse

Do you think of me the way I think of you?
Do you hope for things most likely won't come true?
Do you dream of me like I dream of you?
Tell me darlin' please, tell me true.

Do you hum a little tune all day long?
Do you hear my name in the chorus of your song?
When you sing your song, does it make you feel brand new?
Tell me darlin' please, tell me true

Do you wonder why we live and why we die?
Do you wonder why we laugh and why we cry?
Do you wonder why we dance and why we fall?
Tell me darlin', do you wonder these at all?

Like a child who can't go wait to go and play
I am waiting for love to come my way
Can we make this new love fit like an old shoe?
Tell me darlin' please, tell me true.

Sarah Jarosz

Dear honest lyrics ...
posted for one who hears with her heart ...
and for all of us whose hearts break and mend.

Posted by: talitha1 | November 24, 2010 3:25 AM | Report abuse

I'll be hitting the trail for Savannah in an hour or so. I'll probably check in sometime over the next few days, but just in case: Happy Thanksgiving, y'all!

Posted by: Bob-S | November 24, 2010 4:15 AM | Report abuse

I checked on my cousin's Facebook and I am so chagrined that I am so clueless. She got engaged last Saturday on the second anniversary of meeting her girlfriend. I am so verklempt. She was about ten years old at my wedding and now she is all grown up.

She did move to my uncle's farm about a month or so ago with her fiance and their chickens. No word on whether any goats have been acquired yet or not.

Posted by: yellojkt | November 24, 2010 5:04 AM | Report abuse

Happy trails, Bob-S. Say 'hi' to Paula Dean and the waving girl statue for me.

Posted by: yellojkt | November 24, 2010 6:18 AM | Report abuse

Safe travels, Bob!!

I'll be among the movable Boodle tomorrow, heading up to see the folks and take in the spectacle that will be my 25th H.S. reunion. You'll all be thrilled, I'm sure, to hear I plan to live Boodle it all.

For now, it's a hopefully quiet morning and an early enough reprieve from the governor to avoid the worst of the afternoon crush.

*still-sated-from-last-night's-early-T-day-feast-but-searching-for-coffee-as-always Grover waves* :-)

Posted by: Scottynuke | November 24, 2010 7:36 AM | Report abuse

Good Morning Everyone! Ah, the joys of sleeping in. Today my in-laws arrive, which is as much of a family gathering as our sparse and dispersed kinfolk can ever manage.

One joy of a leisurely morning is, of course, perusing the newspaper. I really, really loved this bit on the TSA controversy by Ruth Marcus. She says it all so well.

Posted by: RD_Padouk | November 24, 2010 8:02 AM | Report abuse

Indeed, RD_P, Marcus nails it.

Posted by: Scottynuke | November 24, 2010 8:10 AM | Report abuse

Morning, all. Hi Cassandra, I hope you're out there and doing well! I'm trying to recover from the stomach bug that felled me yesterday, so not a good time to be sick. Feeling better, but weak this morning. I've got too much to do to be bothered with this mess.

Yello, your alternatives to I-85 are 1. to take I-77 north from Charlotte to I-81 and then I-66 or 2. to take Route 29 north from Greensboro to I-66. 29 is shorter but you have to go through Charlottesville (not really a problem, but slower). Timewise, I think they are about the same. Least traffic on 29, the number of trucks on 81 is amazing. Let us know what you think about the factory tour. That's the exit we take to my brother's but we've never stopped.

Posted by: slyness | November 24, 2010 8:17 AM | Report abuse

As far as TSA Security Theater goes, you can't make up irony this rich:

Posted by: yellojkt | November 24, 2010 8:19 AM | Report abuse

Good morning, Boodle.

I've been lurking and haven't posted much for a long time. To those of you on FB, I apologize for the rehash.

We lost our beloved kitty, Baby, to cancer about a month ago. Mr. Moose and I took the loss very hard. She was such a sweetie and filled our hearts after a devastating loss.

We decided (okay, I begged) to adopt a new kitty that needed a home. We brought home Winner (really, that's his name!) on Monday night. After hiding under the bed and then behind the entertainment center for most of yesterday, he felt safe enough to take a tour of the house. I am happy to report that we have bonded, nose rubs and all! He is still not too sure about Mr. Moose, though. Maybe some turkey will sway him.

My marathon cooking day is here. Today it's cranberry sauce, 2 pies, stuffing, sweet potatoes, and mac 'n' cheese. The turkey, mashed potatoes, gravy, rolls, and something green will be done tomorrow.

I hope everyone has safe tavels to your destimations and a peaceful and happy Thanksgiving.

Posted by: Moose13 | November 24, 2010 8:20 AM | Report abuse

*HUGSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS* and Happy Thanksgiving wishes to the Mooses and Winner! :-)

Posted by: Scottynuke | November 24, 2010 8:23 AM | Report abuse

I think you ghost wrote the Ruth Marcus column. It's so damn reasonable.

29 was also recommended to me by an erstwhile Carolinian coworker. May be worth a try. I'm saving I-81 for my Bourbon Trail - Vonnegut Memorial Library vacation this spring.

Posted by: yellojkt | November 24, 2010 8:33 AM | Report abuse

pj: "plucky ornithologist"?

Very nice.

Posted by: byoolin1 | November 24, 2010 8:35 AM | Report abuse

And wow, this North Korea story is such a classic example of dysfunctional power. Really the new ruler, Kim Jong-eun, should just release a photo-shopped picture of his naughty bits and be done with it.

Posted by: RD_Padouk | November 24, 2010 8:40 AM | Report abuse

Good morning, all.

Backboodling a bit - CqP, I've eaten straight cured or smoked pancetta, like any other cold cut sliced meat. That's not at all unusual (and quite yummy). When I intend to fry it, I ask for thicker slices, maybe 1/8". Makes for some darn good carbonara!

Hope everyone has a great day - lots of family stuff on my plate, and plenty of T-day prep to do.

More later, if there's time.


Posted by: -bc- | November 24, 2010 8:43 AM | Report abuse

Oh, boodlers, wherever you find yourselves on the religious or non-religious spectrum, please go forth and read this (someone dear to me just sent it to me):

It is simply lovely.

Back to you later.

Posted by: ftb3 | November 24, 2010 8:52 AM | Report abuse

That was wonderful, ftb. It warmed my heart on a rather chilly morning. I hope all who are traveling today have safe trips. Scotty, will you really live-boodle your reunion, that would be great!

Talitha, I've been there (resentment) and found the best ways for me to deal with it were: 1) throw pillows around while cussing up a storm, and 2) make up silly nicknames for the transgressors and use them with friends whenever possible which helped to make the guilty parties seem ridiculous and petty. Eventually you get to a point of apathy about it all, but it takes a good bit of time. Be gentle with yourself meanwhile.

Posted by: badsneakers | November 24, 2010 9:23 AM | Report abuse

Way kewl, ftb! I'd love to see the Court's celebration of a baby girl.

Posted by: slyness | November 24, 2010 9:24 AM | Report abuse

Just seen on the front page --

Obama: I don't think about Sarah Palin

Talk about stating the obvious...


Posted by: Scottynuke | November 24, 2010 9:31 AM | Report abuse

Actor/director Kirk Cameron has been in Plymouth recently filming a documentary titled "Monumental," and the attempt is being made to get it into theaters. One of the Plymouth locals whom Cameron filmed was none other than grist mill tour guide Leo Miller.

I think the term "documentary" should be very loosely applied in this case, since the intent of the film is to track God's influence on the formation of America. Not my flavor of film, but each to her or his own.

PR release about the filming and Cameron:

Link to Cameron's website, showing behind-the-scenes production photos of the numerous sites where he's filmed, including numerous photos of Plymouth:

Cameron was in Houston around Oct. 1, promoting "Monumental." Interview with the Houston Chronicle here:

There was a call for 500 extras to shoot a scene on Saturday, Sept. 25, during which they were to run out of the woods in or quite near to Plymouth. I'll assume it was for Cameron's film??? The vacation portion of the trip with my husband was over by then, I was working, so I headed to Harvard's Houghton Library that Saturday, the first time I'd ever been on campus. That was a thrill.

I will say that we took the grist mill tour with one other out-of-state couple that Friday afternoon, Sept. 17. They had just come from a nearby cranberry farm where the cranberry harvest was in full swing. They wanted to talk cranberries, which was fun. Since my husband and I had not had lunch and it had grown late in the afternoon, I bought, so that we could indulge in, wonderful, chocolate-covered cranberry truffles from the mill's small gift shop.

More on a beautiful, unusual wedding later today.

Posted by: laloomis | November 24, 2010 9:48 AM | Report abuse

Good morning, y'all.

Warm pumpkin bread, spiced tea, coffe and OJ on the table.

Start of rant.

I read the Ruth Marcus piece. She's entitled to her opinion, of course. And I disagree with it.

For those unable to walk through a scanner, a manual search is unavoidable. There is no other option if one wants to fly. If I object to the search on 4th Amendment grounds, and I do, I am banned from flying.

The Americans with Disabilities Act (ADA) stipulates that 'equivalent' options be available to those with disabilities in order for them to participate in American life. But Marcus herself says the scanner is far less intrusive than the manual search. That makes the lack of a less intrusive option for the disabled a violation of the ADA.

As for requesting the manual search be done in private, that's a fairy tale option that exists only on paper. It requires a TSA rep to be pulled off of regular security check detail, which can take an hour or more. It requires that there be a private room nearby, and that's an iffy proposition especially at smaller airports. During the time you're waiting for a private search you're separated from your personal effects and they could get misplaced. Result? It's not really an option.

As to the manual search being an effective deterrant, the process hasn't uncovered any truly dangerous flyers in years. More people will die in drunk-driving accidents around TWC than in the skies overhead, yet we don't require passing a breath test as a precursor to starting one's car.

End of rant.

We have a cold Thanksgiving in store here. Maybe a flurry of snow. Our big day at CasaJS is actually the annual Black Friday Fajitafest Lunch. All are welcome.

Those who are traveling, may the journey be as filled with joy and gratitude as the events themselves.

Posted by: MsJS | November 24, 2010 9:48 AM | Report abuse

RD, thanks for the pointer to the Marcus article. Here's the best part of it:

"My defense of the new procedures assumes that there is some rational basis for the screening madness: that the techniques work and that there is not a less intrusive alternative.

On the first, whether this is real security or security theater is to some extent unknowable; the plot deterred cannot be measured. We do know that, without the enhanced imaging, Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab got on a plane with enough explosives to blow it up. "

Start by assuming (without proof) that this is rational. Then acknowledge that we can't know whether this works or provides any security at all.

Yes, when I fly I go through the full-body imaging system without complaint. I understand the radiation numbers (that physics degree, remember) and I just find the whole security thing to be more annoying than anything else. And some (many?) of the complainers are completely ludicrous.

I guess it gets back to those starting assumptions.

Posted by: ArmyBrat1 | November 24, 2010 9:51 AM | Report abuse

Scottish comedian Billy Connolly on suicide bombers, NSFW the accent is thick and the f-bombs fly freely.

Posted by: kguy1 | November 24, 2010 10:15 AM | Report abuse

Thanks, kguy!

I agree that the number 53 sounds like it was a committee decision.

Posted by: MsJS | November 24, 2010 10:23 AM | Report abuse

Just passed the Peachoid.

Posted by: yellojkt | November 24, 2010 10:46 AM | Report abuse

Armybrat - you are correct, one cannot prove a negative, which is part of what makes this so frustrating for people in the government. If something bad happens the government gets blamed for messing up. If nothing bad happens then the government gets blamed for all those unnecessary precautions.

Posted by: RD_Padouk | November 24, 2010 11:19 AM | Report abuse

I hope Mrs. Yello is driving!

I am just finishing up my T'giving Day cooking. I made the obligatory Sweet Potato Crisp Casserole, usually made by Oldest Sister, but her health excuses her from contributing anything but her presence this year (some folks will do ANYTHING to get out of cooking).

I also cooked up some asparagus ahead and will heat it with butter and sprinkle it with toasted, crushed pecans before serving.

AND... I made this recipe I found on Facebook through a Greek cooking page...

Yogurt Pie
4 eggs
3/4 cup sugar
2 tbsp Honey
2 tablespoons flour, plus a little for dusting
1/2 cup melted butter
1 cup yoghurt
1 teaspoon vanilla extract
1 unbaked 9-inch pie shell

Preheat oven to 325 degrees.

Beat eggs lightly; add sugar, honey, and flour.

Then add melted butter and mix well.

Add yoghurt and vanilla and mix.

Dust the unbaked pie shell with a little bit of flour. Pour batter into shell, and then sprinkle a little more flour on top.

Bake at 325 degrees until the custard is set, approximately 1 hour.

I'm going to serve it topped with honey or the beautiful blueberry jam Bad Sneakers brought me from New England. I'll let y'all know how it tastes!

We're off to Baltimore! See y'all later! Have a great Turkey Day if I don't get back here before then.

Posted by: -TBG- | November 24, 2010 11:28 AM | Report abuse

Oh goodness, TBG. That looks wonderful! I think, though, that maybe you need to set it in an open window to cool. But not too high because I'm not good with ladders.

Posted by: RD_Padouk | November 24, 2010 11:34 AM | Report abuse

That yogurt pie sounds delicious, TBG. Thanks for sharing the recipe. Assuming you give a positive report on it, I definitely want to make it sometime.

Speaking of pies, I have a question for the bakers of the boodle. I'm making an apple pie for tomorrow afternoon at a friend's house. When I've made it before, it was always not long before serving, but I have more time today than tomorrow morning, so I'm wondering about my best prep ahead options. Should I make it, bake it, refrigerate overnight and reheat right before serving? Or put it all together, but not bake until tomorrow? Or just make the dough for the crust, and do everything else tomorrow? Will anyone be able to tell one way or the other?

Posted by: -bia- | November 24, 2010 11:39 AM | Report abuse

Phase 1: the Washing of the Dog.

Phase 2: the Making of the Pies.
We begin. First, wash hands well.

Posted by: Jumper1 | November 24, 2010 11:53 AM | Report abuse

bia, I heat up fruit pie leftovers uncovered in a 350 degree oven for 12-15 minutes. I'm guessing this would work for a whole pie as well.

Posted by: MsJS | November 24, 2010 12:01 PM | Report abuse

RD - that was actually Marcus who pointed out the unprovability of the negative; I can't take credit for that. My point was simply that how you tend to view all of this security stuff tends to depend on your starting assumptions.

FWIW, I tend to be strongly biased towards Federal employees being the "good guys" since I was one for 17 years. I think we're much better off with Government security folks than we were with the old private-sector screening.

And having been in the computer security/ "cybersecurity" field for almost 30 years now I'm sympathetic to those who have to try to figure out what the real threats are ahead of time and stop them, especially given that they're moving to evade you.

However, because the rules "have" to be made to be uniformly enforced without assertions of bias, profiling, etc. and have to "convince" the traveling public that one known threat is being addressed, we wind up with absurd rules being enforced by people who know how absurd they are. Marcus points out the hoodie/sweater absurdity (a hooded sweatshirt is outerwear and must be removed at security; a non-hooded sweater or sweatshirt is not outerwear and can be kept on). Fun for my college student daughter last year, flying with her then boyfriend to Minnesota to visit his family. She was wearing a hoodie, with nothing beneath but a bra and herself. Nope, sorry - hoodies are outerwear and must be removed. Her boyfriend took off his t-shirt and let her wear it; he went shirtless. Somebody thought that was a good idea.

Other absurdities: the 3 ounce/100 milliliter liquid limit, UNLESS the bottle's marked saline solution; no nail clippers on board; etc. Marcus acknowledges a number of them in her article.

Marcus admits that she starts from an assumption that "this is all necessary and good" and so any problem is a minor annoyance. I - and others with similar views - start from the assumption that "if there's an understood threat or a known vulnerability we ought to protect against it; otherwise we're just impinging freedoms and causing hassles without a real reason."

Posted by: ArmyBrat1 | November 24, 2010 12:37 PM | Report abuse

What? Governor Bob can't count? I'm shocked, shocked I tell you!

Guess we'll just have to pay for gubmunt the old fashioned way- with taxes.

Posted by: kguy1 | November 24, 2010 12:52 PM | Report abuse

The forecast for Saturday, Sept. 18, was the same for the weather that we experienced on Friday, Sept. 17: cool, overcast, gray skies, light rain or drizzle, windy. But we woke up that morning to find that the weatherman (or woman) was all wet! The sun was up and out, there wasn't a cloud in the sky, no breeze, and the day was warming up.

So fair was the day, we got an early start, and pulled off the road in Duxbury to try to see the Miles Standish monument. We left the rotary in the main part of town, drove around what became a huge loop past expensive homes and estates, and after some time ended up back at the rotary, never having seen the huge monument nor the turn-off to it.

It was only when we took the boat tour of Plymouth Bay that Saturday morning that we could spy the huge Standish column off in the distance, perched an a Duxbury hill. The harbor tour was a good one with an interesting tale about lobsters and Massachusetts inmates. Unfortunately, because of the glare from the water, I got a nasty sunburn on my small nose, and the cracked peeling skin made me pretty unsightly for at least a week thereafter.

We got to the large, paved parking lot at Plimoth Plantation in plenty of time for the mid-afternoon wedding--time to cross the lot, take the many steps to the Visitors Center, show the tickets we had bought at the Mayflower II and find and walk to the Wampanoag village setting. Just as we were approaching the clearing, the bride and groom ducked from a side path immediaely in front of us. Also on that path was a mountain of a man in a motorized wheelchair, who would play an important role in the ceremony, a man with a handsome face to whom I took a great liking for his pleasant way and willingness later to answer my questions.

What I had learned, once we were settled in with the other guests, was there had been a number of reenactments of Wampanoag weddings over the decades since the Wampanoag village had been established in the early 1970s as part of Plimoth Plantation. What we ended up witnessing was the real deal, though--perhaps the first real wedding, also in decades--a ceremony involving two young employees of Plimoth Plantation, that of Matt, interpreter, and Kerri, collection's manager and skilled potter.

(I called Plimoth Plantation yesterday to make sure the press release was incorrect--that this was not a reenactment, but an actual wedding reflecting the culture of the bride and groom. I learned yesterday, too--and suspected as much--that the couple had been married in a civil ceremony some time before.)

What guests also discovered from Robert, the pipe carrier of the Painted Turtle Clan of the Mashpee Wampanoag, the kind gentleman in the wheelchair who conducted the ceremony, is that in order to pull off the wedding, everything was borrowed because the family had experienced a devastating house fire just weeks before and all their worldy goods had been destroyed.

To be cont'd this evening.

Posted by: laloomis | November 24, 2010 1:07 PM | Report abuse

Here's a politician who can't make up a good story on the spur of the moment-

Posted by: kguy1 | November 24, 2010 1:43 PM | Report abuse

Holy Guacamole, kguy! *jaw drop*

Whadda maroon...

Posted by: Scottynuke | November 24, 2010 1:52 PM | Report abuse

And in the Igoring Reality Dept. --

In CNN's online item reporting no problems with airport screening today, despite the call for "National Opt-Out Day," there's one person who doesn't get it:

"However, James Babb, co-founder of the webside, which is organizing the protest, said the quiet airports are 'a definite sign of success that people have been heeding our message to avoid flying if at all possible.' "

Yah. Hokay. *eye roll*

Posted by: Scottynuke | November 24, 2010 2:14 PM | Report abuse

Snuke -- didntcha know that realities are relative?

Frosti -- how can the home of Hubert Humphrey and Al Franken (and *you* FCOL!) also breed idjuts like Princess Sparkle Pony and this guy who packs heat and searches for his "girlfriend" because he thinks she's lying? Wonder what he'd do to her with his, um, weapon(s) if he found her?

Holy Guacamole, indeed.

Posted by: ftb3 | November 24, 2010 3:30 PM | Report abuse

This will seem crass and in horrible taste, but I think it would be really funny to go through the body scanner while in a state of "arousal."

Just trying to think how one would get in the mood, so to speak. My wife would say, "Don't look at me, sailor."

Warmest Regards,


Posted by: jp1954 | November 24, 2010 3:35 PM | Report abuse

Home from work so pie baking activities will commence after I finish my tea. bia, I made my dough last night, it has been resting in the refrigerator. I'll make the pies today and keep them chilled overnight. If guests at #1's want theirs heated, we can put individual slices in the microwave or put the whole thing in a warm oven (maybe after the turkey comes out, the residual warmth in the oven would be enough to warm it). I prefer my pie cold - sue me ;-)

MsJS, I sympathize with you on the difficulties you face at airport security. I do believe the TSA had better come up with some better options for those with disabilities or other issues that would keep them from a scanner. Me, with my titanium hip, I'll be happy in the scanner as it beats being patted down. Didn't like the milder version I had last winter when we went to CR, so I know I'd just hate it now.

Posted by: badsneakers | November 24, 2010 3:44 PM | Report abuse

SJS - I understand your frustration, but you are advocating a radical solution where a reformist one is needed. If you aren't getting the accommodations promised, then one needs to enforce the law, not abandon it.

Posted by: RD_Padouk | November 24, 2010 3:56 PM | Report abuse

I mean MsJS of course.

Posted by: RD_Padouk | November 24, 2010 3:57 PM | Report abuse

That is, if you are not getting the mandated privacy, then someone should sue the TSA, or otherwise raise holy hell, to make sure you do. Can't imagine there will be few who would argue against this.

Posted by: RD_Padouk | November 24, 2010 4:18 PM | Report abuse

RD_P, what is reform to some is radical to others. Health care legislation is a good case in point.

I want to end violations of civil rights. Laws and regulations that do so need to be altered.

I don't expect the current situation to change anytime soon. Therefore, I won't fly.

Posted by: MsJS | November 24, 2010 4:24 PM | Report abuse

Thanks to MsJS and badsneakers for the pie advice. I do like mine warm, so I get the optimum contrast between flaky crust and warm melty gooey apples inside and cool melty gooey ice or whipped cream on top. But to each her own. I'm going to get to work on it now and just make sure not to over-bake it, so there's room for a little more browning with the reheating. Wishing happy meals to all!

Posted by: -bia- | November 24, 2010 4:55 PM | Report abuse

Enjoy it, bia!

Posted by: MsJS | November 24, 2010 5:01 PM | Report abuse

You guys are making me hungry.



Posted by: jp1954 | November 24, 2010 5:21 PM | Report abuse

They shouldn't have used that phrase, "walk through the scanner" I agree. That's a civil rights violation right there.

Incidentally, I tend to rid Wilbrodog of all metal when I do fly and have him go through the scanner. People who can't do that with their service dogs say I shouldn't because it encourages discrimination. Hello? There are endless disabled people who do NOT use service dogs, is that encouraging discrimination against service dog users?

I just want to get through security faster-- I often have to go in and out an extra time because Wilbrodog turns his nose up at using the ladies' for his relief needs. Other travellers have shorter, nonstop flights or their dogs hold it longer, but I work with what I have.

I completely wouldn't fly if I needed to be patted down every time, that's for sure. Even the quick security checks can cost me 45 minutes' time on my layovers and I'm often racing to eat and then board.

Posted by: Wilbrod_Gnome | November 24, 2010 6:06 PM | Report abuse

That's another example of bias-- those relief areas should be INSIDE security checks. Wall and roof 'em and have 100 snipers, I don't care. It's ludricious to force service dog users to go through security extra times. It's a waste of manpower and time.

Posted by: Wilbrod_Gnome | November 24, 2010 6:18 PM | Report abuse

'Allo TSA.
We're nippin' out to lift legs.
Be gentle, we're cute.


Posted by: Wilbrod_Gnome | November 24, 2010 6:32 PM | Report abuse

Oh, such a Thanksgiving present -- Tom Delay was convicted by a Texas jury (who knew????). I've got a beeeeeg smile on my face. There is justice (albeit one at a time) in the world.

Posted by: ftb3 | November 24, 2010 6:40 PM | Report abuse

The NYT managed to render the convicted former congressman's name as both DeLay and Delay.

I assume there'll be an appeal.

Posted by: DaveoftheCoonties | November 24, 2010 6:46 PM | Report abuse

Back from a fantastic day, really enjoyed seeing Wicked but even more spending the day with my daughter and her friend, so much fun. We managed to purchase a dress for my daughter before the show and since we met up with dmdspouse for lunch were able to give him the bag so we did not have to cart it around the rest of the day.

Both girls loved the show, both bought the original cast CD and my daughter later bought the book. We strolled through the big downtown mall, gazed at the shop windows at the Bay, saw a movie/TV shoot so wandered by to take a look.

On the drive this morning my daughter and I had a nice talk about WWII which she is currently studying in history - was pleasantly surprised how part of the story line tied into our conversations that had occurred earlier in the day.

Unexpected fun moments of the day one of the staff at the threatre who checked out tickets on the way in and later was selling Haagen Daaz bars at the intermission had the most delightful Irish accent and engaging personality - we hung around for a moment or two just to hear him. Also as we entered the train station a man was playing the sax, "Can't help falling in Love with you" - so nice, we unloaded a bunch of change in his case.

Posted by: dmd3 | November 24, 2010 8:20 PM | Report abuse

Sounds like a great day, dmd. You must be Pop-ular.

Posted by: yellojkt | November 24, 2010 8:29 PM | Report abuse

What a wonderful day, dmd! You'll all remember it for a long time.

Just finished a marathon of pie baking, green bean, stuffing (for our little turkey breast) and squash prepping. In the middle of it all, #1 called to see if I had extra squash as her friend had forgotten to get it. Then #1 granddaughter called ten minutes later to ask if I had four blocks of cream cheese (I did not), as her mom forgot to get it (she was going to make a cheesecake). I told her the stores were open until 9 or 10 but she informed me that her parents were in their pj's. I assured her that the huge apple pie I made, plus the pumpkin squares that they already had would be enough desserts. I wonder if she remembered the turkey (kidding).

Posted by: badsneakers | November 24, 2010 8:37 PM | Report abuse

Hope you all have a good tomorrow, whether you are celebrating Thanksgiving or not.

Posted by: baldinho | November 24, 2010 8:42 PM | Report abuse

I'm all verklempt at your Thanksgiving plans.

Happy Families!

Posted by: Yoki | November 24, 2010 8:56 PM | Report abuse

Howdy and a Happy Thanksgiving Preparation Day to all. Hurray on the conviction for DeLay, also thanks to ftb for Judge Kimba Woods's Order. That's a very nice way to make the point that one should celebrate both boys and girls.

Today I worked a half day. Then I met Ivansdad, the Boy and a Friend to see "Due Date". It is a cute if silly movie but Robert Downey Jr is worth the price of admission, as usual. Then I went to the bank, grocery and dry cleaners. At home I drained the olives and made dough for tomorrow's justly celebrated Yoki's Olive Balls in Cheese Pastry. Then - pie dough, a gingerbread molasses cake, a bourbon pecan pie, and I roasted a chicken for supper. Did a whole bunch of dishes. Swept the leaves off the patio in anticipation of tonight's cold front. Laid out the dry pumpkin pie ingredients for tomorrow morning; I'd like to get that baked before church. Fed the rabbit, cleaned her cage.

Soon I think I will sleep.

Posted by: Ivansmom | November 24, 2010 9:33 PM | Report abuse

He's in the jailhouse now.
He's in the jailhouse now!
That Tom DeLay,
he's gonna pay,
that's why he's in the jailhouse now.

Posted by: ScienceTim | November 24, 2010 9:49 PM | Report abuse

I'm watching Fear And Loathing In Las Vegas with some fraternity guys while drinking rum and Coke. Friday we're going to see the Dali exhibit at the High Museum. Not sure which will be more psychedelic.

Posted by: yellojkt | November 24, 2010 9:50 PM | Report abuse

Happy Thanksgiving Eve, all!

I'm thankful that I made it in to work today and back. Had a long wait in the cold this morning, but a bus did come finally, and the trek home was ok. Slipped and nearly fell a couple of times, but somehow stayed upright. Apparently I am the only person who clears my sidewalks.

And OMG, I had a ton of work to do today. One thing the Census Bureau does not do well is planning ahead (at least in my experience). Never enough lead time when it comes to things requiring mailing and shipping. Throw in a snowstorm and a holiday week, and it's the 2 newbies trying to get everything done. Which we did, at least today.

Posted by: seasea1 | November 24, 2010 10:12 PM | Report abuse

I meant to include this link to our zoo in the snow (there are bears):

Posted by: seasea1 | November 24, 2010 10:17 PM | Report abuse

Somehow, I am not hosting dinner; but, was asked for three pies: apple, apple cranberry, and rhubarb tart. I use crust from Aldi, but the fillings are just perfect and made with love.

DBG gave me the rhubarb this summer; so, I pass this love-in-a-tart to the family that takes me in when things are ordinary and not so ordinary.

I wish for all, what I have: warm bed, food today and more-than-enough tomorrow. People who I love, to sit at the table with; and those who will clear and wash; those who will thank us. I wish this for those seen and unseen, known to me and not known, far and near, and most especially for those alone and not free, rather invisible to us.

And, truly, I wish this for all who came before us, those now present, and those to come in our wakes.


Posted by: CollegeQuaParkian1 | November 24, 2010 10:35 PM | Report abuse

Beautifully said, CqP. Have a safe, happy and delicious Thanksgiving everyone.

Posted by: badsneakers | November 24, 2010 10:50 PM | Report abuse

Oh seasea, how I wish I could have too much to do at work. That's the cat-bird's seat, I think.

Posted by: Yoki | November 24, 2010 10:52 PM | Report abuse

Those pies sound delightful, CqP. Pies have always been my ticket to entry when relying upon the kindness of relatives. My sister-in-law is not cooking tomorrow because their kitchen remodel just got done. Instead we will be heading out to a restaurant.

In lieu of pies, my son bought some cheesecakes from a fraternity brother's mother who has a side business. All should be good.

And before I left the frat house for the night I did get a picture of the girl with the rainbow hair and her very cute pet rat.

Posted by: yellojkt | November 24, 2010 11:24 PM | Report abuse

Good evening, all.

Thanksgiving Day prep seems to be done, and I'm tired. But remarkably, not very hungry.


Have a good night, all.


Posted by: -bc- | November 24, 2010 11:52 PM | Report abuse

Ha, Yoki, I know! I've gone from being so grateful to have a job doing anything to being critical. And in the story of my life, I am one of the ones who winds up staying and working as others go home early. But it's fine, reely. I do wish they would have planned better though - we're trying to get a ridiculous amount of things done all at once, no doubt to make someone's manager or headquarters happy. I like having a steady amount of work to do, not impossible tasks. But I'm trying not to grumble too much.

Posted by: seasea1 | November 25, 2010 12:43 AM | Report abuse

i can count the times i've ventured out to shop for holiday on friday on one hand. not fun.

Posted by: -jack- | November 25, 2010 1:05 AM | Report abuse

Happy Thanksgiving everyone!

Posted by: rainforest1 | November 25, 2010 2:36 AM | Report abuse

Rainforest!!! *HUGSSSSSSSSS* :-)

I'm off to the airport and thence to New England for the weekend festivities -- I'll wave as I pass overhead, Sneaks!

May the entire Boodle and all associated therewith have a most excellent holiday, and let us all give ongoing thanks to JA for making this all possible. :-)

*final-packing-and-other-details Grover waves* :-)

Posted by: Scottynuke | November 25, 2010 5:27 AM | Report abuse

My husband volunteered to work last night, started at 8 p.m. ad the last time I saw the light on was 12:30, so in short, yesterday was topsy-turvy. He did get the afternoon and early evening off, so we stole away to see the movie "Fair Game" and had a nice pre-Thanksgiving meal out.

We did stop at a bookstore between the movie and the meal, only to have a man immediately approach us and ask if we were Republicans or Democrats. He wanted to alert us to a 40 percent off deal on a book just arived in the store, "Decision Points." When we said that we had come from a movie about Joe Wilson 4th and Valerie Plame, he asked who they are. I moved away from him as quickly as possible, but my husand conversed with him at least 10 minutes or more, about digital photography, while I shopped.

I'm up early to accomplish things in the kitchen that didn't get accomplished yesterday and also to do the things that need doing today. I realize that the tale of the Wampanoag wedding still looms.

Here is a blog post about the bride, Kerri, from the Salem Gazette, about how some of her best older pieces of pottery survived their recent destructive house fire.

Interstingly, the author, John Goff, provides a link to the news reporting about the fierce house blaze. It was so lucky for them, and how grateful they must be, that their neighbor, Mr. Morales-Ortiz had not gone to see a friend perform that Saturday night because he was experiencing chest pains, and the chest pains woke him at 2:30 a.m. in the morning when he noticed the fire had erupted and was spreading wildly.

I see also that the groom, Matt, was in the news after the wedding, on Oct. 30. He was in one of two mishoonashs for an event called the Sacred Paddle that took place on the Charles River, along with other members of Plimoth Plantation's Wampanoag Indigenous Program. Matt is not pictured in the photo, though you'll find him on the Plantation's website, although the man at the back of the mishoonash in this photo was at the wedding. As the article explains, more than 500 indigenous people, mostly Nipmuc, were forcibly taken from Watertown to Deer Island after the outbreak of King Phillip’s War in 1675, and the late-October, 20-mile trip down the river commemorates that removal and the first colonial internment camp.

Will try to describe the wedding today as time permits.

Posted by: laloomis | November 25, 2010 6:37 AM | Report abuse

Hallo ye Boodlers!
Wishing everyone a happy Thanksgiving. :)


Posted by: Braguine | November 25, 2010 7:16 AM | Report abuse

Happy Thanksgiving, enjoy the nice long weekend.

I shall be at work the next two days twiddling my thumbs as it will be quiet with all our US customers off for the holiday.

Posted by: dmd3 | November 25, 2010 7:31 AM | Report abuse

Ah, airport WiFi 'tis a luxury to be thankful for. And with apologies to MsJS, the backscatter X-ray was uneventful in the extreme.

Posted by: Scottynuke | November 25, 2010 7:48 AM | Report abuse

Happy Thanksgiving everyone!

It might not be my Thanksgiving, and I might not get by here so often as I used to, but each and every day, I give thanks for having met each and every one of you. I am richer by far, for it.

Posted by: --dr-- | November 25, 2010 7:56 AM | Report abuse

Hi rainy. Thankful you posted. SN, full report on exray/heavy patting, etc. Next up will be dental exams on explosive tooth fillers...

Hi that we have two full groaning board tdays.

Am hosting coffee and scone at 11 for some beloveds. Planned to walk BEFORE the meal but tis is the classic, classic Tday hymn, which I will sing with my tday assembly of Jewish-Unitarian-Quakie-Pagan-NeoPagan-CelticCatholic-Atheist-Theist-Trinitarian-Jesuit-Apathacist-Rasta gathering later today:

Asian choir singing versions in five languages

And, Celtic Women singing this at a clip:

God bless us, everyone and everyone.

Posted by: CollegeQuaParkian1 | November 25, 2010 8:19 AM | Report abuse

I was all set to mock one of the rotating items in that bar near the top of the WaPo homepage says, "Holiday Guide - Carve your turkey like a pro".

Then I read in Michael Kesterton's "Social Studies" column in the Globe and Mail that one of the questions asked of the Butterball help line was, "If I cut my turkey with a chainsaw will the oil affect the taste?"

Have a happy T-G, America. I have to go put my name on a piece of paper at the bottom of a half a ton of garbage.

Posted by: byoolin1 | November 25, 2010 8:26 AM | Report abuse

Happy Thanksgiving to all of you Murrican types! (I'm deeply envious of your 4-day weekend.)
We have a beautiful, clear and cold day in the other federal capital.

Jury, schmury. Appeal, appeal dear Tom! I'm forecasting a 5-4 decision in your favour at the Supreme Court. This criminalization of the ordinary political process has to stop.

Seasea, I had a busy week because many of my Murrican stakeholders tried to meet some deadline or other before the Holidays. In my humble opinion it's a bit idiotic and self-defeating to set a deadline just before a vacation period.

Posted by: shrieking_denizen | November 25, 2010 8:28 AM | Report abuse

Happy Thanksgiving, y'all.

Warm pumpkin bread, spiced tea, coffee and OJ on the table.

At CasaJS one of us doesn't especially like turkey. So we switch off, alternating between the traditional turkey-and-fixings and something else.

This year it's rack of lamb with crusted mustard coating, acorn squash, garlic whipped spuds, spinach souffle, and pumpkin pie.

May all your days bring you many reasons to be thankful.

Thank you boodle. Thank you, Mr. A.

Posted by: MsJS | November 25, 2010 8:36 AM | Report abuse

Happy Thanksgiving everyone. I though CP expressed it wonderfully. Sometimes we forget what a privilege it is simply to be warm, safe, and well-fed. We are in the minority.

Posted by: RD_Padouk | November 25, 2010 8:36 AM | Report abuse

Here is what I posted on my blog this morning, as well on Facebook, and I will probably tweet a link as well. If anybody needs a WUPHF account it is me:

///This year I am most grateful for all the friends I have met through the internet. As unlikely a method as it is, I love that there are so many interesting people I would never have the chance to become friends with if we were restricted to mere spatial proximity. It's a large, large world and anything which can connect people in so many ways is something worth cherishing.

Most surprising to me is the wide of variety of people I have met. Rather than just finding shodows om my own interests and tastes, I have met people with an infinite variety of backgrounds and perspectives. I want to thank each and every one of you for enriching my life and broadening my horizon.///

But here on the boodle, I want to amend and expand my remarks:

I really view all of you as my closest friends. To find so many fascinating and varied people in one place would be impossible if it weren't for this delightful and funny blog which we have found refuge in, so I thank Joel for seeding such fertile ground.

I know I can be perplexing, exasperating and challenging, but I thank all of you for accepting my quirks and eccentricities with bemusement. In turn you have been comforting and supporting in ways I can't begin to catalog.

We have woven a vast tapestry here of friendship and discussion. Everyone who contributes to the boodle in some way expands and strengthens it. We have become a vast free-floating salon of ideas and camaraderie.

On this day of thanks in America, I want to thank all the people, both locally and around the world, I have met through this forum for enriching and broadening my life.

Posted by: yellojkt | November 25, 2010 8:40 AM | Report abuse

Hey byoolin, here's an idea for Stihl; savory-flavoured chain oil.

Posted by: shrieking_denizen | November 25, 2010 8:45 AM | Report abuse

Happy Thanksgiving to you all! I'm off to Philadelphia and will be back on Saturday. Good luck to all those who step out shopping tomorrow. I'll think of CP and her group while probably sitting in traffic on 95. The Thanksgiving dinner that awaits us will be good, however.

Posted by: -pj- | November 25, 2010 8:51 AM | Report abuse

My goodness that was lovely Yello.

CP I am at work and cannot list to your links, there is a thanksgiving song, not only do you have a 4 day weekend, but holiday themed musical as well - my envy has reached an all time high.

byoolin - was that question signed Red Green?

Posted by: dmd3 | November 25, 2010 9:06 AM | Report abuse

Happy Thanksgiving to all who are celebrating. I'm down in Florida wondering why I don't have a place down here. I'm sure that question could be more easily answered in say, August, but for the moment it's open for discussion.


Posted by: cowhand214 | November 25, 2010 9:08 AM | Report abuse

DMD, we DO have a tDay Hymn...courtesy of the Dutch who used to be rather semi-in charge or NooYark.

Oh, PJ. Drive well. They will keep a plate warm for you.

Scones resting for 5 min, then to oven. Scones are only good for about three hours...then icky. Somebody page Starbucks with this missive.

Posted by: CollegeQuaParkian1 | November 25, 2010 9:15 AM | Report abuse

A co-worker sent me this link on the CP holiday train, it is a fun event and raises donations for various food banks, travels across Canada and Northeast US and mid-west. Anyone with young children or grandchildren might be interested.

Posted by: dmd3 | November 25, 2010 9:22 AM | Report abuse

Good morning and happy Thanksgiving to all my friends! Yes, Yello, what a wonderful way to meet people and enjoy the variety of humanity. I treasure all of you.

Quiet here for the moment, I sent the rest of the family off to the parade. This will allow me to get my act together and be ready when they return, for a quick lunch and then preparation of the real meal.

I am feeling better, thank heavens! But did not have the energy to spend three hours in the cold dampness and then try to cook. Last night Geekdottir helped make cheese straws and learned that it's a real labor of love. Speaking of cheese straws, I think I'll have a couple to tide me over as I do what I need to do.

Blessings on all of you, my friends.

Posted by: slyness | November 25, 2010 9:45 AM | Report abuse

Happy Thanksgiving to Joel and the Boodle. I'm thankful, among many things, for this online community. Your grace, wit, knowledge and presence continues to sustain me.

Posted by: Ivansmom | November 25, 2010 10:10 AM | Report abuse

Happy Thanksgiving day everybody. Lovingly said, Yello!

All I need to do is shower and we can be off to #1's house. I have hors d'oeuvres, squash, green beans, apple cranberry pie, a centerpiece for the table, ice cream for the pie, cinnamon roll-ups from leftover dough, a camera, and a CD with Alice's Restaurant on it for the trip down.

Slyness, say 'hi' to Geekdaughter for us! Have a wonderful day.

I've had the Macy's parade on in the background and I had forgotten how cheesy and annoying it is. Good for the children, but otherwise, ugh! Ah well, it's a tradition.

Posted by: badsneakers | November 25, 2010 10:26 AM | Report abuse

A little music for your hooliday pleasure (or non-holiday pleasure).

I knew Microsoft was good for something.

Posted by: MsJS | November 25, 2010 10:37 AM | Report abuse

Good morning all, and Happy Thanksgiving to those of us who celebrate it.

Safe travels to those of you who are doing so today, and I'm going to also take a some time to remember that I have I have many things to to be thankful for.

yello, my man - you're so right.

At the risk of causing Joel to drop in a dead faint, I'll say it.

This blog - the Kits, the Boodle, everyone and everything in and around it - changed my life, and a lot of other folks' too. (Astonishing, isn't it?)

I'm thankful to you and for you, my Boodlers-in-Arms.


Posted by: -bc- | November 25, 2010 10:41 AM | Report abuse

SCC: (yes, even today) delete second "I have" in second sentence.

I'll live with all the other mistakes.


Posted by: -bc- | November 25, 2010 10:43 AM | Report abuse

'Morning,Boodle, and a very Happy T-Day to one and all.

We're celebrating our second consecutive T-day today. On Thuesday #2 and all her clan came up from Virginia Beach, so yesterday I took the day off and we did our big turket dinner yesterday. I did the turkey, stuffing and my killer skillet green beans while my wife did a big spiral-cut ham and the various other side dishes. So that took care of #2 and #3 dottirs.

Today we go to #1 dottir's house to have dinner with the second batch of 4 g-kids, et al. We're taking the ham (2/3 of it was left) and a second batch of killer skillet green beans and a special stuffing dish my wife just made, which is called Italian stuffing. It is made with chopped spinach and egg, among various other ingredients. I was guinea-pig taste taster: it's not bad.

I stepped on the scale this morning: am down about 2 lbs. My wife will be furious when she hears that.

Posted by: curmudgeon6 | November 25, 2010 10:50 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: DNA_Girl | November 25, 2010 11:01 AM | Report abuse

My thanksgiving gift to those of your celebrating, am now a home with younger daughter - school called to inform me she is sick.

Simple gifts - Yo-Yo Ma and Alison Krause.

Posted by: dmd3 | November 25, 2010 11:09 AM | Report abuse

*sending get-well mojo to dmd-daughter*

Posted by: MsJS | November 25, 2010 11:36 AM | Report abuse

Got Son of G to BWI at 6:30 this morning for his 8:25 flight back to Charlotte. It still hasn't taken off. But he says he made a friend at the airport and he just called from the plane.

Lots to be thankful for, always, and all of you are part of that. Yello was much more eloquent (as usual) so... What he said.

Have a great day, y'all!

Posted by: -TBG- | November 25, 2010 11:41 AM | Report abuse

The show with the fancy doggies is on!

Posted by: RD_Padouk | November 25, 2010 12:21 PM | Report abuse

Let the wild roasting begin!

- CulinaryTim

Posted by: ScienceTim | November 25, 2010 12:21 PM | Report abuse

Yes, very thankful for Joel and the Boodle.

Snowing here! But it's supposed to turn into blessed rain later.

Mr seasea made me turn on the Macy's parade. I hate it, and so does he, but he seems to think it's a tradition.

Posted by: seasea1 | November 25, 2010 12:22 PM | Report abuse

yello -- I shall join the chorus hoisting huzzahs to you. That was a lovely sentiment.

Sneaks -- I'm definitely with you on the parade. It "may" be fine for kids (I have my doubts in the long run) but as background noise, I suppose it will do.

I have a pleading due next Thursday, so apart from today, a wee bit of "now that the house guest is gone, do his laundry" stuff first thing in the morning, the farmers market and other food shopping (I'm a guest today, alas, so no leftovers) on Saturday morning, I shall be glued to the keyboard. I'm hoping to have a killer draft (much less tasty than Mudge's green beans, I'll bet, but just as potent) ready by Monday some time. Just sent a missive to a colleague asking him to do some research for me, so I don't get all bogged down in it. More laundry and indoor jungle watering on Sunday morning, though. It'll all turn out fine. I've been in this position before. Of course, if I were 30 years or so younger, it would be easier. *sigh*

This morning's activities were to make the spinach-tomato-cheese casseroles (one gluten-free, one not), which I did in no time flat. Then I washed, dried and ironed (really, folks) my hair. Now I'm ready to settle down for the dog show (which has already started) and perhaps take a quick nap before leaving with the goods at about 4:30 this afternoon.

Time for lunch, I think. Definitely don't want to overindulge this evening. Gotta pace myself.

I hope everyone enjoys his/her Thanksgiving immensely. For those who dwell in other lands, go ahead and celebrate, too. We won't mind. Buncha individuals, over-sated on food, football (Go Lions!) and family are probably, somehow, good for the economy, eh?

Toodley Boodley until anon.

Posted by: ftb3 | November 25, 2010 12:29 PM | Report abuse

The suffering you have to go through poor Mudge.

Scottynuke, the St-Sauveur and Tremblant ski stations opened today. Stoneham and Mont St-Anne will open next Saturday. It's all on artificial white stuff made in the last couple of days as the temperature turned cold. Some natural white stuff is expected later today and tomorrow. Yuk.
Speaking of cold it was stupid of me to have my walk gloveless and with only a baseball cap for a hat. My hands are red and stiff and my ears are about to fall off.

Posted by: shrieking_denizen | November 25, 2010 12:37 PM | Report abuse

Unfortunately it's Tom Brady and the Backbreakers that are coming to town ftb. Not much good for the Lions will come out of that I'm afraid.

Posted by: shrieking_denizen | November 25, 2010 12:46 PM | Report abuse

I've been to Mont Tremblant. It was lovely. Of course, that was in the late '70's in January -- better time of year and measurably colder climate.

Posted by: ScienceTim | November 25, 2010 1:09 PM | Report abuse

I have finally caught up. Thank you, yellojkt. That was splendidly said. I'll echo bc - in entirely unexpected ways this blog and Boodle have changed my life. For the better, I hasten to add.

Thanks also to dmd for the "Simple Gifts". That piece is almost a musical cliche, but when you hear it done well you realize why. It is a fine piece of music.

Getting to church was interesting. The city had a "Turkey Trot" race downtown this morning. It started, ran past and ended almost directly in front of our church, and many of the runners/walkers parked in our lot. The roads, including the road in front of the church, were blocked off. I know most churches don't have Thanksgiving services any more, and it probably didn't occur to the planners that there would be a problem. I think next year they might warn the church and coordinate traffic better, if they insist on holding the race in front of the only downtown church with a Thanksgiving service.

Posted by: Ivansmom | November 25, 2010 1:26 PM | Report abuse

You wouldn't recognize the place ScienceTim. It's been taken over by a mega-resort company (intrawest, the same gang that owns Whistler in BC) a good while back. Now it's condos as far as the eyes can see. The mountain is still nice but the village... not so much.

Posted by: shrieking_denizen | November 25, 2010 1:42 PM | Report abuse

ditto Blue Mountain Shriek, I was shocked when I was there a couple of years ago, skiing will never be on par with Tremblant or Whistler but the village is remarkably similar.

Posted by: dmd3 | November 25, 2010 1:56 PM | Report abuse

For those of you enjoying the big feast today, fear not I am sure it is nothing compared to this Turbacon,

Posted by: dmd3 | November 25, 2010 2:00 PM | Report abuse

CulinaryTim! What wild roasting will enrich your feast? Here it was wild baking. I just turned the oven off for the day, if not for a couple of days.

Doggies on TV? I expect we will have football on TV.

Posted by: Ivansmom | November 25, 2010 2:23 PM | Report abuse

The gunmint sure likes to put its employee into despair before the Holiday season. I just got my « Pension and Insurance Benefit Statyement». It should have started with Dear Sucker… The only number I like in it is the Sudden Death Benefit but I do not like the way it comes to bear fruit.

There must be something defective in Wapo’s live football app. It shows the Lions leading 17-10. At one point it showed 14-3. An offensive led by QB Shaun Hill (who?) with a total of 212 yards in the first half? Come on.

Oh, 17-17 now at the start of the 3rd Q.

Posted by: shrieking_denizen | November 25, 2010 2:31 PM | Report abuse

Dennis Overbye has a nice appreciation in the NYT of Allan Sandage.

"The first time I met the eminent cosmologist Allan R. Sandage... he refused to talk to me."

Posted by: byoolin1 | November 25, 2010 2:58 PM | Report abuse

The Lions game got real ugly. In several ways.

Posted by: yellojkt | November 25, 2010 3:46 PM | Report abuse

I've attended several pow-wows before, both in New Mexico and Texas, but never a native nation wedding.

The setting was in the Wampanoag village at Plimoth Plantation, in a small clearing on the path that rings the area. Among the lodges there is a very simply constructed cover--two thick log posts, a roof and only a back wall, the post and roof festooned that Saturday, Sept. 18, with a variety of fragrant evergreen boughs and freshly cut, giant sunflowers.

The bride and groom, during the entire ceremony, had their backs to the back wall of this structure, so they faced outward, for all the guests and visitors to see. They also faced pipe carrier and Painted Turtle Clan leader Robert, in his motorized wheelchair, who conducted the ceremony.

I was standing next to the groom's friends, who stood to the right of the groom, and also ever so slightly to the right of four small fires that were lighted at the start of the ceremony. To the groom's left was his beautiful bride, and to her left, in the large circle, were her friends. No one was in outerwear of any kind, because to everyone's surprise and delight, the day was as beautiful a fall day as they come, pleasantly warm, the trees overhead providing a dappled canopy of shade.

Small groups of children played in front of the couple's friends, girls in front of the women, boys in front of the men. There was a radiant baby, only several months old, swathed in the softest deerskin and gently lashed to a cradleboard, passed among some of the guests.

Before I proceed, I must comment on the clothing. The men and women had on native regalia the likes of which I have never seen. Many of the men had on only breeches or leggings--their upper torsos bare. Many has tattoos, again the likes of which I had never encountered, many, exceptionally rendered, depicting birds and animals of the woodlands. One fellow did have a cursive tattoo that read simply "Wamps."

A number of women were outfitted in deerskin dresses, ornamented with hand-sewn lavender seed beads to compliment the ubiquitous quahaug or clam shells. There were quahaug shells used in hair ornaments, earrings, necklaces, like conchas in concha belts. Many of the men wore the shells, too. The bride was also bedecked in quahog. My eyes were swimming in a lovely sea of lavender and purple. Did I note that the groom Matt crafts wampum?

Near the start of the ceremony, the groom and bride each held out a wrist, these wrists bound with a deerskin cord to symbolize the journey that they would now make together.

Following the binding of their pulse points, the bride and groom were presented with a small clay vessel, gourd-like, filled with blueberry tea, with two openings side by side at the top of the rounded pot. The maneuver was tricky, but they both had to drink the wedding tea from from the vessel at the same time, cheek to cheek--to symbolize a coming together of the waters.

"Happy Thanksgiving, all!" More later.

Posted by: laloomis | November 25, 2010 4:52 PM | Report abuse

Topsy-turvy thanksgiving: nap and shopping BEFORE dinner.

Now to hunt for a restaurant open tonight.

Posted by: Wilbrod_Gnome | November 25, 2010 5:48 PM | Report abuse


"scuse me.

Nap ti


Posted by: curmudgeon6 | November 25, 2010 5:56 PM | Report abuse

dmd, hope your daughter is feeling better.

We're back from #1's. Dinner was very tasty. #1's friend, who is a chef, was there and carved the turkey - it was amazing to watch her take that bird apart so neatly. We managed to not overeat, which our stomachs are appreciating muchly. It was a challenge to eat dinner while trying to keep up with the football game. We managed to finish eating in time to watch the last quarter (sorry ftb). Of course I will be cooking a turkey breast tomorrow night but will skip a lot of the fixings - just stuffing and asparagus - but it should take us thru' the weekend.

I add my thanks to Joel for this wonderful venue and to all of you for your wit and wisdom.

Posted by: badsneakers | November 25, 2010 6:12 PM | Report abuse

*loud cheering and standing O for yello*

Shriek, yer killin' me. :-P *L*

Turbacon... Mmmmmmm... *drool*


I'd have to offer the prediction that the Ivanhouse is not full of pigskin joy at this moment.

And what's to tell about the backscatter x-ray? You enter, put your feet in the marks, raise your hands over your head, stand for a few seconds, all done. No complaints I could hear while I was in line, and one older gentleman with a replacement hip emphatically chose the scanner over the pat-down. My very limited sample jibed quite well with the opinion polls showing general acceptance of the technology.

It's been a fine afternoon of food and fun with NukeMater and family friends, including a very polite dog & cat that were nonetheless VERY interested in the heavily-larded table. Now on to more football! :-)

*valiantly-fighting-off-the-tryptophan-to-see-how-the-rest-of-my-picks-did Grover tummy rubs* :-)

Posted by: Scottynuke | November 25, 2010 6:29 PM | Report abuse

Sneaks, didja see me waving overhead?? :-)

Posted by: Scottynuke | November 25, 2010 6:40 PM | Report abuse

Happy Thanksgiving, all!

Posted by: engelmann | November 25, 2010 6:44 PM | Report abuse

Oh, that was you Scotty! I sorta thought it was a GWB ( Grover Waving Boodler).

Posted by: badsneakers | November 25, 2010 7:03 PM | Report abuse

Turkey toodle-ooooos to all!

My sisters and I riffed on the words 'waddle' and 'wattle' on the phone today as we prepped our feasties.

Waddle away from the groaning board.
Wattles were them! (the turkeys)
Wattles have we, on our necks as we age.

Love and full hearts to all boodlers,
from me and my kin!

Posted by: talitha1 | November 25, 2010 7:21 PM | Report abuse

Geekdottir is finishing the dishes.

Mr. T thought the dressing was crunchy and wouldn't eat any. Into the garbage after dinner, I don't need to eat it (*I* thought it was good) and Geekdottir isn't eating gluten, so may as well get rid of it now. So much for homemade cornbread and sage.

The turkey was good, I must say, even if I did prepare it for the grill myself. Elderdottir's mac and cheese was to die for. Sis-in-law's pumpkin and pecan pies, excellent as always. Creamed corn, which I cut off the cob fresh and froze back in July, also good.

So much to be thankful for. Right now, grateful that it's over and I can go to bed soon.

Posted by: slyness | November 25, 2010 7:22 PM | Report abuse

[Should have mentioned that I've not back-boodled for two days ..... apologies aforehand and I trust you will be forgiving.]

Posted by: talitha1 | November 25, 2010 7:43 PM | Report abuse

It may not be my thanksgiving but I have a great reason to be thankful, eldest daughter who struggled with math early in the term (as in not passing struggling), just came home with a 90% on a trig test, after an 86% previously, she had worked hard and received some extra tutoring from her teacher. Very proud of her,

Thanks for the inquiries, younger daughter spent a quiet day for her, even relaxing in bed for several hours, along with some chicken soup and is now back to her normal energizer bunny self.

Posted by: dmd3 | November 25, 2010 7:55 PM | Report abuse

Gungungungg-gg-gg-ung. Pshewwww. Wide left, by a foot.

*massive sigh of relief*

Posted by: curmudgeon6 | November 25, 2010 8:04 PM | Report abuse

Wild, wacky finish to the Saints-Cowboys game, with a miss on a 59-yard field goal attempt to give the Saints a 3-point win.

Posted by: Scottynuke | November 25, 2010 8:05 PM | Report abuse

Wow. I'm 2-0, and TBG and bc are not. Is it too early in the week to award a tentative tiara?

No? *sigh*

No, I guess you're right. I just thought, you know, I'd give it a shot, ask the question. Cuz this is about as close as I'm gonna get to that silly hat this season.

Posted by: curmudgeon6 | November 25, 2010 8:08 PM | Report abuse

I mean, I realize it'd be a seven-way tied tiara, but still, there's nearly 66 hours until the next shoe falls and we'd have to give it up. We could take turns, ya know? Each of us gets it for 9 and a half hours?

Posted by: curmudgeon6 | November 25, 2010 8:13 PM | Report abuse

Good evening, dear Boodle. I hope you are enjoying a somnolent post-feast state. Happy Thanksgiving to all!

Oh, and what yello said earlier.

Posted by: Yoki | November 25, 2010 8:40 PM | Report abuse

Ballgame? Did someone score?
Pass the gravy.

Posted by: talitha1 | November 25, 2010 8:42 PM | Report abuse

it's a hard row to hoe some days, darn it!

Posted by: talitha1 | November 25, 2010 8:50 PM | Report abuse

Howdy y'all! Feasts were devoured, dishes are done (at least they are in this house), libations were poured and consumed, all are safely and thankfully home.

Often, passing television on a weekend, I will ask "Is it a football?" Sadly, tonight in the Ivansclan it is not a football. As Scottynuke correctly predicted, there is no football joy in the Ivanshouse tonight.

Posted by: Ivansmom | November 25, 2010 9:01 PM | Report abuse

talitha, you sparked a random memory with that link. First-year university, late fall, stayed up all night with my-destined-to-be-college-boyfriend's roommate listening to that album on a continuous loop for about 8 hours, then went to the waterfront to watch the sun come up.

And thought, in exactly these words, "Isn't is fabulous to be free enough to stay up all night!"

Now, of course, I do it frequently, but it isn't so great. Freedom vs. chronic insomnia. Compare and contrast in less than 900 words.

Posted by: Yoki | November 25, 2010 9:11 PM | Report abuse

Hey, Yoki.

Posted by: curmudgeon6 | November 25, 2010 9:16 PM | Report abuse

Freedom - nobody can make you go to sleep.

Insomnia - nothing can make you go to sleep.

Posted by: Ivansmom | November 25, 2010 9:25 PM | Report abuse

Yoki! music is the wonderful (and sometimes dreadful) factor in sharing life together, AIN'T it! Usually when I'm here reading the boodle my thoughts gravitate to a song ... I hesitate to post the link usually. Folks have enough to do in their day and certainly don't need talitha's ramblings to fill in the gaps.

But I love waking up to find Yoki's and jack's postings of music. Old DJs may never die ... but if they do someone need to remember to take the headphones off!

Posted by: talitha1 | November 25, 2010 9:36 PM | Report abuse

scc: needs

Posted by: talitha1 | November 25, 2010 9:40 PM | Report abuse


Hey, 'mudge.

Posted by: Yoki | November 25, 2010 9:50 PM | Report abuse

Stuffed. Completely. Enormously. Sated and grateful. I even got a care package to bring home with me (including a wedge of punkin pie). And I know I will still be surprised that I'll be hungry for breakfast in the morning.

Yeah, that Lions game was good until my boys realized they could actually possibly beat the Pats and it scared them so much, they devolved into the pussycats they really are and just up and lost. Consistency is supposed to be a virtue, right?

Got a picture from a law school classmate, who is now retired and is a few years older than I am. He's up in NH. I remember him for his hippie appearance, with long hair, a long scraggly beard and granny glasses. He's still got the beard, albeit shorter and pretty well trimmed, and the granny glasses, but there is much more vacant space on top. I almost didn't recognize him, but it has been about 30 years, after all. And, I noticed with chagrin, neither one of us is as svelte as we were then. Ah, well.

Hey, Mudge.

Hey, Yoki.

Gonna go relax the digestive system a bit before I turn in.

Posted by: ftb3 | November 25, 2010 10:06 PM | Report abuse

hey, ftb!

Posted by: Yoki | November 25, 2010 10:20 PM | Report abuse

Freedom's just another word for nothing stops your snooze.

Posted by: engelmann | November 25, 2010 10:24 PM | Report abuse

For those who didn't eat turkey today, like me, and might need a hug .....

a blast from the past.

Posted by: talitha1 | November 25, 2010 10:45 PM | Report abuse

The Climate report is from 2006, written by a George Mason University professor for the Republican chairman of the House Energy Committee, Joe Barton, who represents a Texas gerrymander. I suppose Barton will, as a committee chair come January, investigate the fake liberal unAmerican "experts" who are casting aspersions.

I continue to think that climate scientist Dr. Michael Mann, once of UVa and now Penn State, needs a contingency plan to move abroad.

Along the same lines, today's issue of Science has a detailed disassembling of "The Climate Fix What Scientists and Politicians Won't Tell You About Global Warming by Roger Pielke Jr." The review's by Kevin Trenberth of the National Center for Atmospheric Research, who briefly but enthusiastically recommends "Hack the Planet Science's Best Hope—or Worst Nightmare—for Averting Climate Catastrophe" by Eli Kintisch (a reporter for Science).

The yard got some attention today.

Fertilizer sticks for orchids, new pots for several.

Installed a little Epiphyllum cactus in a big pot with orchid mix--it's an epiphyte, supposedly easier to grow outdoors in Florida than Christmas cactuses.

A bed-in-progress will have several flowering amaryllis in a few days, plus several alyssums, a petunia, lemon basil, cilantro, and (I hope) germinating nasturtiums.

There's also a freshly planted perennial peanut (Arachis glabrata) that should spread under the amaryllis plants. If it's happy, I might start installing more of it in parts of the yard where grass isn't thriving, or watering it has become too much of a chore. Here's info from our state ag school:

Perennial peanut seems almost too good to be true. Crown vetch was terribly oversold in the Northeast when I was younger, especially as a ground cover for steep slopes. It turned out to be lousy for the purpose, not to mention that it didn't support many native insects or the birds that feed on them.

Posted by: DaveoftheCoonties | November 25, 2010 10:47 PM | Report abuse

I'm more this than I got You.

Posted by: Yoki | November 25, 2010 10:50 PM | Report abuse

Perennial peanut. C'est moi!

Posted by: talitha1 | November 25, 2010 11:32 PM | Report abuse

Yoki, explain to me why Weezer is anything more than than glorified white rap? The mind-numbing repetitive beat and the focus on the ego-glorification from the groupies in the front-row bleachers is beyond me. If Weezer has a message I'd like to know it (maybe with subtitles). Otherwise, sorry - I'm tuned out.

Posted by: talitha1 | November 25, 2010 11:45 PM | Report abuse

Draw a box around me and call be square.
First time ever in my life, I reckon ..... but it's never too late.

Posted by: talitha1 | November 25, 2010 11:54 PM | Report abuse

Hey, ftb.

'Night, Boodle.

Posted by: curmudgeon6 | November 26, 2010 12:02 AM | Report abuse

Good evening, all.

Yeah, took a flyer that the Cowpokes would deliver a Thanksgiving surprise - and they almost did. Ah, well.

Mudge, I don't know about the notion of partial-week Tiaras. Seems to me that could turn into a slippery slope, y'know?

byoolin, thanks for that Sandage link. A very nice appreciation of the man.

Last game of the day's over, everything's cleaned up (leftovers in the fridge, too. Yay!), and I'm ready to snooze for awhile.

Had a very interesting discussion with my family over dessert this evening covering psychology, physiology, philosophy, anthropology, cosmology, physics and literature. I do indeed have much to be thankful for.

G'night, all.


Posted by: -bc- | November 26, 2010 12:05 AM | Report abuse

Just in case anyone needs to get rid of left over pumpkin pie, she says raising her hand...I will wait by the fax.

Posted by: --dr-- | November 26, 2010 12:09 AM | Report abuse

dmd, good work by your daughter in her trig class! I had my bad moments in math, back in junior/senior high school. It can be worked through. Good for her!

Today's roasting was: turkey roasted at high temperature, unstuffed and basted with apple cider with roast stuffed pumpkins. Accompanied by mashed potatoes, baked sweet potatoes, roasted brussels sprouts, squash rolls (Moosewood restaurant recipe), Tim's Own Cranberry Sauce with Orange Peel, Tim's Own Stove-Top Stuffing with cranberries and walnuts. The dinner was followed by the traditional Food-Induced Coma for two hours, then I spoke with the ScienceSister on the occasion of her 50th birthday (and 51st Thanksgiving), and then the dishes were done (mostly by the ScienceSpouse. Thanks, dear!).
Now it's midnight and I wonder if I really have to take the dog for a walk...

Posted by: ScienceTim | November 26, 2010 12:09 AM | Report abuse

Hi T.,
Sometimes we just like to listen to the bubblegummy-yet-ironic stuff out there. And, Weezer guys where retro glasses....

I admit to liking Train! Can sing harmony to this, which drives CpBoy insane...but that is partly the job of a momHead on some days:

Beats are infectious, so many different kinds, just make us move, sway, or hum.

Posted by: CollegeQuaParkian1 | November 26, 2010 12:10 AM | Report abuse

Dr, faxing rhubarb tart, apple pie, with a wedge of sharp cheddar.

Hey, BC, same discussion in my neck of the, I guess we were together in a way.

DoCounties: Am writing a paper on the rhetoric of the hockey stick shape in Michael Mann's (et al.) work.

Posted by: CollegeQuaParkian1 | November 26, 2010 12:26 AM | Report abuse

Faxing half a pumpkin pie to dr. Anyone else want some?

Posted by: seasea1 | November 26, 2010 12:42 AM | Report abuse

Rhetoric? That used to be one of the arts, perhaps the most important. My university required a course called Speech 200. Think I got a C.

Posted by: DaveoftheCoonties | November 26, 2010 12:47 AM | Report abuse

'morning all. Oh joy , freezing rain again. That would be a slippery Black Friday if there were such a thing here. The dog is going outside alone.
I like your turkey set-up CulinaryTim. Roasted Brussels sprouts, hummmmm.

Posted by: shrieking_denizen | November 26, 2010 6:19 AM | Report abuse

Of course, I bet on parity for the Bengals-Jets and what happens?? *ratzin fratzin cratzin mumble grumble*

Ah well, on to the inaugural edition of the latest family tradition -- The Only Slightly Late Thanksgiving Gathering at the Local (and quite good) Mexican Restaurant. I'll go gather up NukeSpawn and she and I will get to see many folks we rarely see. I might even brave a Black Friday store or two along the way.

And seen on the WaPo home page --

N. Korea warning: SILENCE!! I KEEEEL YOU!!

(Not really, but I can hope, right?)

*adjusting-to-NukeMater's-coffee-maker-with-only-a-few-sour-faces Grover waves* :-)

Posted by: Scottynuke | November 26, 2010 6:23 AM | Report abuse

Duly chastened regarding the music, CqP. Apologies to Yoki.

Posted by: talitha1 | November 26, 2010 6:55 AM | Report abuse

Good morninkzz, Boodlers!

Funnier than Somali pirates is being a shop keeper in Queta.

Surrounded by huge mountains this commercial center has inspired great business deals for resident Pashtuns.

But, the peace negotiating impostor is the most inspired for ripping off Ferangs. This deserves a loud bwa haha.

Posted by: Braguine | November 26, 2010 7:01 AM | Report abuse

That's the sign of a really useless conflict, we don't even know who we are/should be negotiating with.

I say we send Michael Caine and Sean Connery back in.

Posted by: russianthistle | November 26, 2010 7:48 AM | Report abuse

Morning, all. Hi Cassandra! Is that baby here yet?

A dismal, rainy morning in the Carolinas today. The aches and pains from yesterday's exertions make me wonder if Thanksgiving is worth the effort. Wonderful to have family around, but jeez...

Mr. T went up the mountain last night. When I can get Geekdottir and myself motivated, we'll do the same. It's gonna be a while, I can just tell.

Have a happy Black Friday, everyone!

Posted by: slyness | November 26, 2010 7:50 AM | Report abuse

Yoki, Wilbrod, note the last sentence in this article; bet you he addressed her as 'Behan' not 'Didi'

Posted by: DNA_Girl | November 26, 2010 7:57 AM | Report abuse

T, we get to like the music we like AND EQUALLY not like the music we don't. So, k?

And, will admit to liking some music to irritate children...muhahahahahhawwwwww.

Off to by reduced price turkey breast, so the sammiches weekend can begin....

Posted by: CollegeQuaParkian1 | November 26, 2010 8:09 AM | Report abuse

Thank you for desert, CqP and Seasea. You saved me.

Gotta run. I just checked in to see what time it was over in the 'far' east. This is faster and more fun than just checking my laptop calendar.

Posted by: --dr-- | November 26, 2010 8:25 AM | Report abuse

A thought on Black Friday: I remembered something Julia Child once said --- "In department stores, so much kitchen equipment is bought indiscriminately by people who just come in for men's underwear."

You couldn't drag me near a mall these days. After years of retail and merchandizing storefront windows I get weak in the knees at the mere thought of it. The FSM invented online shopping for a reason. 8~)

Posted by: talitha1 | November 26, 2010 8:42 AM | Report abuse




Posted by: MsJS | November 26, 2010 9:07 AM | Report abuse

'Morning everybody. I agree about shopping today Talitha. Of course I'm almost done with my shopping,having done a lot of it on line. I will go to the small mall near here next week sometime to browse for bargains.

Have to work today, it will be very slow I think. Looking forward to the weekend. I think this year we'll be trimming the firs in the backyard to make sprays for the doors. I'm tired of buying wreaths that shed needles all over the car and garage before I even get them decorated.

Posted by: badsneakers | November 26, 2010 9:25 AM | Report abuse

Morning everyone, enjoy your Black Friday, noticed a number of stores up here offering Black Friday stores, most likely in an attempt to prevent shoppers from crossing the border, our high dollar makes excursions across the border very tempting and tends to hurt retailers here.

This weekend will be spent decorating the tree, finishing the outdoor decor and inside and preparing lots of cookies - eldest will invite friends and we will bake ginger molasses cookies and chai sugar cookies and I might try sneaks snickerdoodles.

My unexpected day off yesterday allowed me to decorate the small tree, a funky lime green sparkly tree filled with an ecclectic mixture of ornaments new ones, ones from my mom and ones made by the girls - it just makes me happy to look at it.

Posted by: dmd3 | November 26, 2010 9:45 AM | Report abuse

New kit!

Posted by: MsJS | November 26, 2010 10:07 AM | Report abuse

I did my Black Friday shopping online. Got a Roku XD with shipping for only $74. We just downgraded our Netflix subscription to just one DVD a month because we almost never return the movies and watch whatever is available streaming only. It turns out our son uses the Netflix Online more than we do because he figured out how to watch it using his second hand XBox360 and his roommate's 46" HDTV.

Posted by: yellojkt | November 26, 2010 4:41 PM | Report abuse

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