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Posted at 8:56 AM ET, 02/23/2011

Slog lit

By Joel Achenbach

When traveling, one tries to read fiction associated with one's destination (i.e., if you're going to Paris you read A Moveable Feast). When slogging through a work project, one needs to read slog lit -- stories of people hacking their way through a wilderness and felling giant trees to create a small clearing in which the sun can shine and they can grow a feeble patch of corn before expiring from a frontier virus. Also, war books. Men on the march, getting trench foot, suffering from battle fatigue, while generals see their plans confounded at every turn.

Or better yet, a combination of the two: Books about military engineers who have to fell the forests to create the roads for the Sherman tanks to get through. There really should be more books about logistical support -- let's make a mental note of that.

Interior supply lines: That's what makes all the difference in war and peace, right?

There aren't many military folks in my lineage -- I come from pacifist stock. But there were a lot of frontier people, farmers -- Indiana, Pennsylvania -- the kind of folks who cook big pots of food when not breaking the soil behind a team of horses. Up at 4, get a lot of work in before first light, three squares a day, shucking corn by lanternlight in the barn, sleep, repeat. About the only thing those people bequeathed to subsequent generations was the ability to work hard. To slog.

Which is a resource of some value.

By Joel Achenbach  | February 23, 2011; 8:56 AM ET
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Mr. A, you had time to read during the b--k project?

Posted by: MsJS | February 23, 2011 9:41 AM | Report abuse

I just saw this quote yesterday, from a guy who is not on my list of favorite writers, but who neverthless does know a thing or two about the process:

"If you don't have the time to read, you don't have the time or the tools to write."
--Stephen King

Posted by: kbertocci | February 23, 2011 9:57 AM | Report abuse

I believe that this book fulfills the stated requirements:

I think the story of the Panama Canal has many lessons for any large engineering project, including the infamous quote of Ferdinand de Lesseps, ""As problems arise, men of genius will step forward to solve them." Also known as "making it up as we go along."

And while this quote has been rightly criticized for minimizing the need for end-to-end planning, there is something to be said for it.

Despite our best efforts we often encounter situations that even the most vigilant planning could not entirely foresee. Sometimes an event for which sufficient contingencies have not been envisioned happens. (I have heard tell there exists a somewhat pithier version of this sentiment.)

The point is, sometimes we really do need to rely on individuals of genius to help us find the way. And sometimes that means ourselves. Fortunately, genius is often pretty much indistinguishable from a willingness to slog on through.

Posted by: RD_Padouk | February 23, 2011 9:59 AM | Report abuse

Slog lit may be research for JA, but for me, research is fun; slog lit is trying to read the teeny tiny print to determine how much Tylenol Jr to give a 52 pound child. (Is that a 3 or an 8? Eight seems a tad much. Must be a 3. Or is that a 2? Every how many hours?)

Youngest Sis is exceptionally bright, yet insists on reading publications with articles like "UFO Crashes in Central Park, Aliens Enjoy Falafels Before Asking to Meet With Leader" on an airplane. She calls it bubblegum for the brain.

And now I must slog through paperwork. Aliens with falafels sounds more interesting.

Posted by: LostInThought | February 23, 2011 10:09 AM | Report abuse

I guess I'm glad I backboodled before signing on today, only because I read TBG's very sad news.

Dearheart -- even when it's expected, that doesn't make it any less painful. May you and your family be embraced by your memories of your beloved sister, and let them hold you tightly and lovingly for however long you need it. I'm sending my hugs and condolences, too.

This doesn't make a particularly good segue, but I got the bad news about my car this morning. Seems like by little kerfuffle took out two lines to my air conditioner (so *that* has to be replaced) and there was more stuff outta whack underneath. It'll be several hundred dollars, alas. It's still drivable, but I need to go downtown tomorrow, and I don't want to be dragging things underneath as I venture down there. My policy includes a loaner car, so my insurance company and I are getting everything in order. *sigh*

And, now, back to the mines.

Posted by: ftb3 | February 23, 2011 10:23 AM | Report abuse

SCC: *my* little kerfuffle

Posted by: ftb3 | February 23, 2011 10:24 AM | Report abuse

TBG, I am so very, very sorry to hear your news.

Posted by: nellie4 | February 23, 2011 10:26 AM | Report abuse

If you really want to delve into the slog world, Joel, devote 157 minutes of your life to watching "Fitzcarraldo" by Werner Herzog. This is story of a wild eyed opera loving rubber speculator played by Klaus Kinski (who else?) who sails up a jungle river in Peru in his 300 ton steamer and then portages the ship over a mountain to reach another jungle river and eventually arrive at his rubber territory. Then after you finish with that film, devote a further 95 minutes to viewing "Burden of Dreams" by Les Blank, a documentary about the making of "Fitzcarraldo" which is if anything more fascinating than the original film. What could be better than a film about a fanatic obsessive film maker battling the elements, the remote location, finances, his wacko star, and the laws of physics in order to make a film about an obscure fanatic obsessive historical figure doing all those things? It's slog heaven!

Posted by: kguy1 | February 23, 2011 10:36 AM | Report abuse

Kguy... For the life of me I couldn't picture a rubber speculator. Then I realized you meant a rubber speculator.

Posted by: -TBG- | February 23, 2011 10:45 AM | Report abuse

TBG, I am relieved that your dear sister's suffering is over. I hope that happy memories bring you and your family comfort now. I am so sorry you have to go through this.

Posted by: Kim_1 | February 23, 2011 10:50 AM | Report abuse

Portaging a 300 ton ship over a mountain? Geez, and here I am looking at a lower car because I'm tired of lifting my kayak over my head.

Posted by: LostInThought | February 23, 2011 10:51 AM | Report abuse

'Morning, Boodle.

The copy editor (and Hemingway aficionado) in me cannot let it pass that "A Moveable Feast" isn't fiction, it's basically a memoir. (*refusing to get into the squabble over the possible fictional nature of one or two minor points in it*)

Padouk, that was an excellent choice for a book about military engineers, since the creme de la creme of the French engineers working for de Lesseps were all graduates of France's Ecole Centrale des Arts et Manufactures or its even more reknowned rival, the two-step Ecole Polytechnique and then the Ecole des Ponts et Chaussees (literally, the "School for Bridges and Highways"), which were also military schools (in France in the 19th century, "military" and "engineer" were virtually synonymous).

The irony of the de Lesseps quote is that ultimately, the French failed to build the Panama Canal, as David McCullough's book points out, precisely *because* they were so immersed in their rigid thinking they were unable to improvise solutions in the field. It was the Americans, McCullough points out, who were best able to improvise on the spot, and create solutions to problems that had baffled French ideological thinking. So in a way, de Lesseps was right: men of genius DID step forward to solve problems. They just happened to be American, not French. Alors.

A wee lagniappe for ftb, down in the mines: No, not Lani Hall but Leza Miller (and the ever-popular and ubiquitous Joe Pizzulo).

Posted by: curmudgeon6 | February 23, 2011 10:51 AM | Report abuse

We talkin raw ooze straight from the tree here, TBG.

Posted by: kguy1 | February 23, 2011 10:52 AM | Report abuse

That sounds Lost in La Mancha-like to me kguy, thanks for the heads up.

Also thanks SciTim for reminding me of The Linder Gallery. I saw it once years ago (forget where, probably a special exhibit on Dutch masters since that's a moth-to-flame kinda thing for me). I was amazed at its multitudes, despite the small size (a meter wide?)

Posted by: DNA_Girl | February 23, 2011 10:55 AM | Report abuse

Werner Herzog made a documentary called "Little Dieter Needs to Fly" about a guy named Dieter that came to America after WWII and joined the Navy to become a pilot. The movie "Rescue Dawn" with Christian Bale is about Dieter's escape from a Laotian prison in the early days of the Vietnam war. Now, that was a slog to freedom. Eating bugs, clawing his way through the jungle, the whole ball of wax. Really, really good films, both of them. In the documentary, Dieter revisits the prison site, etc. Very moving.

Ok, after working late last night and lollygagging around this morning, I guess it's time to turn my attention to the empty cupboards and general chaos in the K house. Have a great day, boss and boodlers.

Posted by: Kim_1 | February 23, 2011 11:00 AM | Report abuse

I was only somewhat peripherally aware of Klaus Kinski before 1979. I knew he was the hunchback in "For a Few Dollars More", and had seen the last half of "Aguirre, Wrath of God" one night while waiting for "The Rocky Horror Picture Show" to start at the old Garden Hills Cinema in Atlanta.

Then a buddy of mine suggested we go see Herzog's "Nosferatu", and I was hooked on both Kinski and Werner Herzog. When "Fitzcarraldo" came out, I was living in Sacramento, and drove to San Francisco to see it because I didn't want to wait the few weeks it was going to take before anybody was showing it closer to home.

Great stuff.

Posted by: bobsewell | February 23, 2011 11:06 AM | Report abuse

ooh, I just put Nosferatu and Fitzcarraldo in my queue, bob.

procrastinating, procrastinating...

Posted by: Kim_1 | February 23, 2011 11:10 AM | Report abuse

"Burden of Dreams" was perhaps the sloggiest slog ever. A good choice. Kguy, did you see "My Son, My Son, What Have Ye Done?" I (gulp) enjoyed it. An odd assortment of creators, with Herzog, Lynch and Dafoe all involved.

Posted by: Jumper1 | February 23, 2011 11:18 AM | Report abuse

It still comes as a shock, the end. My condolences for you and yours, TBG.

Borrow a soft dog
Use him as hankie and hug:
Fur therapy works.


Posted by: Wilbrod_Gnome | February 23, 2011 11:23 AM | Report abuse

There's a doc about the Herzog-Kinski relationship called "Klaus Kinski, My Best Fiend". A deeply deeply bizarre guy. Herzog, no slouch in the bizarre department himself, is drawn to strange characters and strange stories. Check out "Grizzly Man" if you haven't seen it. The first time I ever saw a character light a fart with a match onscreen was in a Herzog film "Stroszek" which ends with the Deputy Sheriff saying:

"We have a 10-80 out here, a truck on fire, we have a man on the lift. We are unable to find the switch to turn the lift off, can't stop the dancing chickens. Send an electrician, we're standing by."

Posted by: kguy1 | February 23, 2011 11:37 AM | Report abuse

That reminds me -- I keep meaning to read Xenophon's "March of the Ten Thousand" (aka "Anabasis").

Posted by: ScienceTim | February 23, 2011 11:41 AM | Report abuse

My dear TBG, My heart is breaking for you and your sisters and your family.

How comforting that your sister died in her sleep. I know she was quite aware of all the abundant love that her family had for her.

May she rest in peace.

Posted by: rickoshea12 | February 23, 2011 12:05 PM | Report abuse

Joel, if you want to slog while writing... Bill Bryson's 'Walk in the Woods' is useful! good luck with the writing.

Posted by: MissToronto | February 23, 2011 12:45 PM | Report abuse

Sorry to hear about your sister, TBG. *Hugs*

Posted by: MoftheMountain | February 23, 2011 12:56 PM | Report abuse

My deepest sympathy to TBG. Remember to good times.

Posted by: ebtnut | February 23, 2011 1:06 PM | Report abuse

SCC: ...the good times.

Posted by: ebtnut | February 23, 2011 1:18 PM | Report abuse

TBG, my condolences on your loss. You and your family will be in my thoughts today.

Posted by: cowhand214 | February 23, 2011 1:19 PM | Report abuse

Another step toward equal protection under the law. *smile*

Posted by: talitha1 | February 23, 2011 1:20 PM | Report abuse

What I carried in my cross-body bucket-bag when I saw Paul Krugman speak at Trinity University yesterday morning was the paperback copy, very recently acquired for cheap, of Patricia Beard's "After the Ball." Don't know yet if I can tie anything about James Hazen Hyde, the book's central character, to Krugman's remarks.

Perhaps it's the answer by Krugman to his last question from a young man in the audience, who wanted Krugman's opinion about Ron Paul and Paul's book about the Fed. In the automotive age, Paul's thoughts about the Federal Reserve are comparable to the horse-and-buggy days, Krugman answered fairly succintly. Few probably recall Hyde's and Vanderbilt's famous four-in-hand buggy race from New York City to Philadelphia.

It was great listening to Krugman in such a small and intimate setting, Stieren Auditorium in the fine arts complex. I spoke with the head of the economics department at Trinity, Rande Specter, while waiting for Krugman to arrive, and asked Specter about the lack of publicity, the small venue for Krugman. (It pays to read the fine print at Trinity's website.) Apparently, Feb. 22 was the only day that Krugman had available, and the much larger, more cavernous Laurie Auditorium had been booked for some time for a children's musical concert. What I--and perhaps the rest of the small group--didn't realize about NYT columnist and economist Krugman of Princeton is that he has quite the sense of humor!

The long slog here has been getting through mountain cedar allergy season. From Dec. 15 through February 1, I was flat on my back in bed for four of those weeks. Just horrible misery and wretchedness during those awful days. The thing that got me up on New Year's Eve was "The King's Speech." Two weeks of recovery and then an unexpected two-week relapse. The motivation to leave bed on Feb. 1, still struggling mightlily to get my land-legs and land-brain back in order, was Frank Rich's column about the one-eyed Rooster Cogburn, and the immediately subsequent discovery that the courthouse scene in this western remake was filmed in the Blanco County Courthouse, just a hop, skip and day's long pony or buggy ride to our north (about an hour by car).

Otherwise my mind has been elsewhere, specifically early, early Hawaii, since a purchase of a very recently published book I made on Jan. 3 about matters maritime served up, quite unexpectedly, a family member on a silver platter. Marvelously "Cook"ed, too. If I had't have made the trip to Boston last fall, I would never have made the connection.

Posted by: laloomis | February 23, 2011 1:21 PM | Report abuse

A kind and benevolent Boss has heard my plea. I saw a Dennis Miller routine where he used 'Fitzcaraldo' as a verb.

Posted by: yellojkt | February 23, 2011 1:43 PM | Report abuse

I appreciate Joel and all the boodlers who have provided such excellent examples of slog as entertainment.

Another would be the state legislative session, which is shaping up here as a marathon slog. I have taken to referring to our legislative majority, in private, as "those crazy mother...." - oops, WaPo won't let me write that word. And we're by no means the worst; in fact, given our usual position near the bottom of the food chain, it is refreshing to see what the nutcases in other states are doing. Illinois should have a special rate for "Democratic legislators from surrounding states". There could be some kind of institutional discount. First Wisconsin, now Indiana.

Posted by: Ivansmom | February 23, 2011 2:01 PM | Report abuse

Perhaps if you used the word "Oedipal" to describe your legislative majority, it might get past the filter, Ivansmom.

Posted by: curmudgeon6 | February 23, 2011 2:04 PM | Report abuse

excellent suggestion, Mudge. Other advantages - I'll appear erudite, and many of the people to whom I'm referring,not being erudite, won't be offended.

Posted by: Ivansmom | February 23, 2011 2:18 PM | Report abuse

I've always considered I-mom to be one of the politest people I know, so it's beyond me as to why she'd wish to be...

Oh, wait...


Posted by: Scottynuke | February 23, 2011 2:35 PM | Report abuse

Claims adjuster on his way, rental car on its way afterwards, and then, gotta take the damaged car up to the shop again.....

*sighs mixed with whimpers*

I do not like this at all. No, I don't.

I'mom, I'm finding it increasingly difficult to find the appropriate euphemisms without descending into vulgarities. The latter do fit the scenarios so perfectly, tho.

Posted by: ftb3 | February 23, 2011 2:40 PM | Report abuse

ftb, you have my sympathies.

Any way you can just fax your car to the repair place?

Posted by: MsJS | February 23, 2011 2:49 PM | Report abuse

Noting without further comment:

"Judge tosses lawsuit against Obama health care plan

The Associated Press
Tuesday, February 22, 2011; 8:05 PM

WASHINGTON -- A federal judge on Tuesday threw out a lawsuit claiming that President Barack Obama's requirement that all Americans have health insurance violates the religious freedom of those who rely on God to protect them.

U.S. District Judge Gladys Kessler in Washington dismissed a lawsuit filed by the American Center for Law and Justice, a Christian legal group founded by evangelist Pat Robertson, on behalf of five Americans who can afford health insurance but have chosen for years not to buy it.

The case was one of several lawsuits filed against Obama's requirement that Americans either buy health insurance or pay a penalty, beginning in 2014. Kessler is the third Democratic-appointed judge to dismiss a challenge, while two Republican-appointed judges have ruled part or all of the law unconstitutional. Kessler wrote that the Supreme Court will need to settle the constitutional issues.

Posted by: curmudgeon6 | February 23, 2011 2:56 PM | Report abuse

Military historian John Keegan notes somewhere that even though the American forces in the War of Independence were desperate for cannon, it took 9 months for them to haul the ones they'd captured at Fort Ticonderoga to their siege lines around Boston -- all of 200 miles. (The last stage showed up in a fleeting scene of the PBS John Adams series.)

Before all-weather roads and gas engines, moving big guns was HARD slogging.

Posted by: Observer7 | February 23, 2011 2:59 PM | Report abuse

I would be perfectly willing to permit people to NOT buy health insurance, so long as they undertake the obligation never to accept any medical care. However, there are problems even with this brilliant plan:

(1) I just don't trust them durn people to stand by their convictions. Persons of self-proclaimed virtuousness have a lousy historical track record for actual integrity. A sick-bed conversion, followed by a trip to the emergency room, would compel doctors to treat them regardless of their past stupid decisions, and the rest of us would get to pay for it. Perhaps they could be retroactively billed for all the premiums that they had previously refused to pay?

(2) How can they be permitted to make such a decision on behalf of a minor child? We don't let people kill their children through overt action, for good reason. How can we let them kill their children through neglect, even well-intentioned neglect? Unless, of course, they are virtuous children and God accepts them into His Plan.

(3) God may take care of THOSE particular virtuous people, but God expects the rest of us to take care of ourselves and each other. At least, that seems to be the case. The nature of joining an actuarial risk pool is that, on average, the cost of payouts is expected to be less than or equal to the money paid in. The risk pool assumes that there will be people who will never need services of value equal to what they pay in, in order to balance the folks who have amazingly costly treatment. These fortunate people on the God-takes-care-of-them Plan are necessary to help take care of their less-virtuous fellow citizens until such time as those other persons become sufficiently virtuous to require no health care, themselves.

(4) Really, it seems only fair to verify that God actually is taking care of these dudes. Proof of insurance, if you will. If God intervenes to save them from a moderately fatal event, then I'm willing to accept that they are covered by a better health insurance plan than Man could ever provide. A simple test would suffice: short stroll off a tall building, firing squad at close range, injection with live smallpox virus, exposure to anthrax. Something like that.

Here's an idea: how about when these people die, their heirs can recover as an inheritance all the money paid into the insurance system that they DID NOT expend on medical care. An excellent savings plan! Win-win all around, I think. Subject to estate taxes, of course.

Posted by: ScienceTim | February 23, 2011 3:26 PM | Report abuse

In Keegan's Fields of Battle: The Wars for North America (1997) ISBN 0-679-74664-1

But that's not exactly what Keegan said, and not quite what happened. Fort Ticonderoga was abandoned in May 1775, and the guns arrived at Cambridge nine months later. But it didn't take 9 months to haul them-- it only took two months, and it was 300 miles, not 200. Col. Henry Knox was the guy who did it. Ethan Allen and the Green Mountain Men had captured 59 pieces of artillery. Most of Washington's advisors said it couldn't be done. Washington finally ignored the advice and gave Know permission to go try; Knox left Boston on Dec. 1, so 6 of the 9 months had already gone by. He and his men got there 4 days later, and it took 5 days to dismantle the guns (43 heavy brass and iron cannon, 6 cohorns, 8 mortars, 2 howitzers) and load them into flat-bottom barges for the 30-mile trip down Lake George.. They left Dec. 9, so that's your proper start date, slog-wise. They made it before the lake froze. Then they built 42 massive sleds pulled by 80 team of oxen; that took a week. They had to wait until Christmas morning for enough snowfall to let the oxen pull the sleds. They got to Albany Jan. 5, but the ice on the Hudson wasn't yet thick enough to carry the weight, so they had to wait 3 days. They finally got to Cambridge Jan. 24. But it took 6 more weeks to stealthily sneak the gunns up Dorchester Heights without the British seeing or knowing, succeeding on March 4. The following seige lasted 13 days, and then the British evacuated.

So yeah, 9 months, start to finish. But the summary is grossly misleading. Still, though, one helluva slog.

Posted by: curmudgeon6 | February 23, 2011 3:30 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: curmudgeon6 | February 23, 2011 3:34 PM | Report abuse

I think kguy named the all-time champion slog movie in "Fitzcarraldo," but here's a candidate for first runner-up: a somewhat obscure western called "Westward the Women." It was directed by William Wellman from a Frank Capra story (I think Capra originally intended to direct, but couldn't fit it in his schedule.) As you'd expect from Capra, it is at times sentimental and comic, but is a generally unstinting look at the harsh conditions faced by a wagon train of mail-order brides who have been deserted by most of their hired trail hands. It's pretty hard to find right now, since I don't think it's available on DVD, but for anyone who is even mildly fond of westerns, it's well worth a look if it pops up on cable.

DNA_Girl, I had a moment of serious deja vu when I watched "Lost in La Mancha." The scene where the crew is shooting in a dry wash and their equipment is washed away in a flash flood was virtually identical to something I saw as a kid. In this case, some other kids watching the shooting were yelling at the film crew to get out of the gully -- even though it was sunny, there was a storm over a range of hills in the distance. I guess the kids were from the neighborhood and knew that the runoff from that storm was going to come right through there. Of course, being just kids, they were ignored. Nobody was hurt, since the sides of the wash weren't particularly steep, but a lot of equipment was lost. It was strange seeing it replicated on film almost 40 years later.

Posted by: rashomon | February 23, 2011 3:42 PM | Report abuse

As a teenager in the Boy Scouts, I camped on Corrigidor for a few nights and then we hiked 50 miles of the Bataan Death March. Another serviceable metaphor for long intense tasks.

Posted by: yellojkt | February 23, 2011 3:43 PM | Report abuse

Though I've read many accounts, Henry Knox's slog with the captured artillery from Ticonderoga gets an excellent treatment in David McCullough's book "1776". Because the siege of Boston occured in '76, McCullough gave the back story both for the context and to highlight one of the many reasons why Washington came to place so much faith in Knox.

Knox has always interested me. A 25-year-old Boston bookseller becomes an expert in artillery tactics, training and manufacturing for a fledgling nation, going on to become Washington's Secretary of War.

Posted by: talitha1 | February 23, 2011 3:54 PM | Report abuse

TBG and the loving, big-hearted G-clan: am with you in sorrow and loss about dear sister. And, that she thought on us and even took comfort from our boodle webs of fun and affection. Our own little version of string theory and quantum entanglement, that things and actions really matter.....(pardon to the physicists among us, 'tis metaphor, etc.)

Oh, enter in!: she shall into that mysterious space where we all are stardust again.

Posted by: CollegeQuaParkian1 | February 23, 2011 4:01 PM | Report abuse

Rashomon, I agree about "Westward the Women" ... classic Capra treatment while also capturing the gritty and gruesome hardships so many endured on those westward treks. (1951, usually rated 4-stars)

TCM often shows it and it's available on DVD at Amazon.

Posted by: talitha1 | February 23, 2011 4:05 PM | Report abuse

For a somewhat different slog try Clouzot's "The Wages of Fear" or William Friedkin's excellent remake "Sorcerer". Desperate men are hired by an oil company to drive a couple of truckloads of nitro over atrocious mountain roads to stop a well fire in a remote area of South America.

Posted by: kguy1 | February 23, 2011 4:15 PM | Report abuse

Absolutely, kguy. Both are great, although "Sorceror" is one of the few movies that I think improved, in some ways, on the original -- particularly in the claustrophobia of the jungle setting instead of the open desert vistas of the original. I also thought the ending worked better (although I understand what Clouzot's point was).

Posted by: rashomon | February 23, 2011 4:20 PM | Report abuse

It's been several decades since I read it, but I recall the Alistair MacLean novel "HMS Ulysses" being a heck of a good read about a hellish naval slog. I don't remember hearing of any film versions.

Posted by: bobsewell | February 23, 2011 4:28 PM | Report abuse

I didn't know that Clouseau was a man of such wide-ranging talents. I thought he stuck with detective work and karate.

Posted by: ScienceTim | February 23, 2011 4:31 PM | Report abuse

TBG, I only now came back to the Boodle so I can only echo what everyone else has already said and wished you.

Your sister's memory will always be with you but I hope that your pain will gradually become more bearable. Take care.


Posted by: orawh | February 23, 2011 4:52 PM | Report abuse

Playing with nitro is how he learned to move so quickly, Tim.

Posted by: -pj- | February 23, 2011 4:58 PM | Report abuse

Speaking of long slogs and quantum entanglements, thanks to a 7 hour plane flight I am on page 760 of Anathem putting me on track to finish it by the end of the month.

Posted by: yellojkt | February 23, 2011 5:01 PM | Report abuse

There was also a 'Little House On The Prairie' episode about delivering nitro by wagon. Poor Michael Landon was sweating bullets.

Posted by: yellojkt | February 23, 2011 5:03 PM | Report abuse

Back at the desk. The claims adjuster took pictures and fiddled around, doing this and that, and told me that if it turns out costing more than the car is worth (1997 Mazda Millennia w/ 71K miles on it), they'll pay me to take it for salvage (Mazda isn't making that model anymore, tho). And then I'll have to get a new car, which I would really prefer not to do, but there we go.


Got my loaner car (Toyota Carolla) -- very sharp brakes (glad I was wearing my seat belt), so I drive it gingerly.

I bought my Mazda in 2000 at Carmax in Gaithersburg, so I'll probably go back there. Hope I can afford something reasonable.


Posted by: ftb3 | February 23, 2011 5:09 PM | Report abuse

My slog through 18 years of formal schooling was pretty epic, I must say (grandiosely).

Posted by: rickoshea12 | February 23, 2011 5:12 PM | Report abuse


I'm very sad to hear about your sister. My deepest sympathies to you and your family.

Posted by: -pj- | February 23, 2011 5:13 PM | Report abuse

AhAh "Le salaire de la peur" with a young Montand, I was to put it in the slogging list but kguy beat me to it!

"One Day in the Life of Ivan Denisovich" is quite the slog but the novel(la) is better known.

Posted by: shrieking_denizen | February 23, 2011 5:19 PM | Report abuse

Another good film-about-a-film is "Hearts of Darkness" which is about the slog-of-a-film that "Apocalypse Now" is.

I think I saw "Fitzcarraldo" in the Inner Circle theater. (Anyone here remember that place?) Watching a claustrophobic film in a claustrophobic theater was an experience I don't want to repeat anytime soon.

Posted by: -pj- | February 23, 2011 5:38 PM | Report abuse

ftb, I found the brakes on my 2008 Corolla to be very "grabby" for the first 6 months or so, too. Rather annoying. I don't know whether I got used to them or they wore down or what.

I hope they fix your Mazda instead of totaling it. When my Toyota Echo was totaled, it felt like a breakup. I loved that car, and the Corolla, its replacement, feels like a rebound because I had to rush and get a replacement quickly.

Posted by: MoftheMountain | February 23, 2011 5:40 PM | Report abuse

Not much to it, but a bit more analysis than in some other coverage.
Navigating Libya's tribal maze

Posted by: Jumper1 | February 23, 2011 5:46 PM | Report abuse

Thanks,MotM. You're absolutely right.

I remember when my father upgraded from a 1950 Chevy (in military green) in 1959 (maybe?) because apparently we needed a car with fins. The Chevy was the only car I really ever knew (I was 4 when we got it). The floor boards were going (you could see the street go by without looking out the window), and it was a very comfy car.

When we went to get the new car and had to leave "my" Chevy behind, I think it was my first brush with serious loss. I remember looking back at the dealership where we left it in Detroit, until I could see it no more. I was heartbroken, but didn't really express it. I kept it to myself. But I do remember that.

The Millennia has been a sweet car. Crappy mileage, but a sweet car. I will shop around at Carmax, but I really don't want to have to get a new (used) car right now. My "if I had a lot of money" car would be a hybrid, but they are still too pricey for me, and since I don't drive a whole lot anyway, it doesn't make sense. But, still ...

Any suggestions, boodlers?

Posted by: ftb3 | February 23, 2011 5:50 PM | Report abuse

I remember the Inner Circle theater quite well ... spent many a dark hour there viewing films one couldn't see anywhere else, including on VHS tapes.

Posted by: talitha1 | February 23, 2011 5:53 PM | Report abuse

ftb, check the fine print on the loaner. you may get a bill if they deem your car 'drivable'

Posted by: omni3 | February 23, 2011 6:19 PM | Report abuse

ftb, regarding the insurance adjustor and the possible scenario of declaring your car a "total" ---

Back in 1996 I was driving a Toyota Camry, purchased new in 1989. It was hit on the passenger side doing a fair amount of damage to the front door and pillar. (The 19-year-old woman who hit me turned out to be the daughter of the head of the Maryland State Police!)

Geico's adjustor wanted to declare it totaled but the replacement value and the repair estimate he quoted to me were so close that I fought it. I couldn't afford/didn't want to buy a new or used car at the time. I did my research and located a repair shop who would do the work for less than Geico was willing to pay out in replacement ... and I won. Drove the Camry for another eight years.

Just throwing that out anecdotally.

Posted by: talitha1 | February 23, 2011 6:22 PM | Report abuse

Thanks, omni, but a loaner is part of my insurance policy (I learned to do that the hard way).

Thanks, too, talitha. I've just discussed that scenario with a good friend of mine. I'm going to call my repair shop tomorrow morning and discuss the matter with them, too.

I've just wandered over to the Consumer Reports web site (I'm a member of both the online and the dead tree organizations) and have been checking things out.

Time to nuke something, methinks.

Posted by: ftb3 | February 23, 2011 6:29 PM | Report abuse

Ah,yes ftb. I had that too once upon a time when I had a car. Took it to the shop and had to pay for the first day, because it was drivable. Then the shop finished late Friday and of all things was closed for that weekend. Had to pay for that too. At least it wasn't a three day weekend yea. And what kind of shop closes for the weekend. A sham in cahoots. worst part was: it wasn't budget rental. And another thing:....

Posted by: omni3 | February 23, 2011 7:03 PM | Report abuse


Posted by: greenwithenvy | February 23, 2011 7:04 PM | Report abuse

Good evening, all.

Speaking of interior supply lines and long slogs, the National Highway System in this country will probably never be completed, and requires continual maintenance. When the Canuckistanis come over the border en masse, boy, are they ever going to be surprised...

Speaking of Stephen King, a friend bought "On Writing" for me, for which I am eternally thankful.

ftb, I would be surprised if your car requred more than $7k worth of work based on your description of the incident. Don't know if it's time to worry yet.


Posted by: -bc- | February 23, 2011 7:30 PM | Report abuse

What was that, ftb??? :-)

And how is Jenny, gwe? :-)

Posted by: Scottynuke | February 23, 2011 7:33 PM | Report abuse

She is Fineeeeeeiiiiiiiine

Posted by: greenwithenvy | February 23, 2011 7:40 PM | Report abuse

Well, bc, *that* reminds me of a mishap I had (bodywise, not carwise) about 10 years ago. I had thrown out my back (lifting something in way I shouldn't have) and was put on Tylenol 3 -- I wouldn't wish that on anyone. I ended up in the Emergency Room at Suburban Hospital, begging for dynamite.

{now, if any of you simply cannot fathom what the problem was, think about it for a bit}

When I registered, the woman behind the counter asked me for my insurance information. I informed her that I would be self-insuring, as my deductible was $3500, and if the procedure was going to cost at least that much, it would *scare* the $hit out of me! She looked at me for a second, her eyes got wide, and then she started screaming in laughter. Good for her. And, ultimately, for me.

Never again.

Posted by: ftb3 | February 23, 2011 7:41 PM | Report abuse

I have pulled a few cannon around the hills near Fort Ticonderoga. It is not an easy task.

Scotty, I see that the legislature of the great state of NH voted to drop out of RGGI today. Sigh. Their grandchildren will mock them for eons, I expect.

Posted by: baldinho | February 23, 2011 8:10 PM | Report abuse

Present-day biological databases represent heroic slogs. The present generation of taxonomists can check plant and animal names on databases like TROPICOS (plants). No unwieldy and hard-to-find paper resources.

Non-sloggingly, I got to spend the day in the Everglades, the real River of (Saw) Grass on both sides of I-75 crossing from Naples to the east coast. Despite the Everglades' terrible problems, the vast area north of the National Park (with water managed by the Water Management District and vegetation/wildlife by Florida's wildlife agency) is looking good. The Melaleuca tree threat has been thwarted, Brazilian peppers are present but controlled, and unwanted cattails may be somewhat in retreat, pushed back by sawgrass. If today's bird flocks are tiny compared to circa 1890, they are still impressive. Even saw a white pelican and roseate spoonbills, along with wood storks. And a cardinal. Willow seeds were flying through the air.

Major changes are in store over the next few years (unless the money's revoked, which may happen), but the region is already benefiting from cleaner water. Removal or reduction of barriers to water flow should substantially help, too.

Posted by: DaveoftheCoonties | February 23, 2011 8:19 PM | Report abuse

Hi kbert!
Love that Stephen King quote -- so true.

Hi pj! (and all the other boodlers)
Yes, I remember the Inner Circle, the Outer Circle, the Foundry and various other gems that no longer exist -- how I miss them all!

Tom fan

Posted by: -Dreamer- | February 23, 2011 8:24 PM | Report abuse

Our newspaper's business reporter caught Krugman's talk to almost 500 people yesterday morning at a sold-out breakfast event, link below. If I had a choice between being in a room with 499 other people eating breakfast fare and listening to Krugman on the far side of a room, or listening to Krugman speak in a small, intimate auditorium on Trinity's campus with about 199 other people...

Of course, what is immediately evident is that the nature of Krugman's two presentations yesterday was different. His campus address, geared to students of economics, was titled "My Evolution as an Economist." Who knew that science fiction writer Isaac Asimov influenced Krugman's career choice? Or that when it comes to being a pig-wallowing-in-mud economist or a goldsmith economist, the goldsmith economist (working meticulously on small issues or questions) style of research most appealed to Krugman?

During his address on campus, Krugman did remark that employment levels will probably return to more comfortable levels (which I'm going to assume is between five and six percent) probably late in Sarah Palin's first term. Was Krugman joking?

And as San Antonio Express-News reporter and columnist David Hendricks emphasizes in his write-up, Krugman's economic outlook for the next decade is not rosy, a point Krugman strongly reiterated in his address yesterday midmorning.

Posted by: laloomis | February 23, 2011 8:34 PM | Report abuse

I definitely need to post this somewhere so I can revisit it as a reminder. From his blog discussion on the NYT today with Gail Collins:

David Brooks: Have I ever told you of my theory of reciprocal self-barbarization? If you engage with barbarians on the other side then one inevitably becomes barbaric. If you engage with sane people, one becomes more sane. Progress depends on enlarging the party of sanity. I can put you in touch with plenty of sane people who care both about debt and education, just not in Madison, Wisconsin, at the moment.

Posted by: baldinho | February 23, 2011 8:36 PM | Report abuse

I just realized that I engage in reciprocal self-barbarization often as I shave or cut my hair with clippers in the mirror.

Posted by: baldinho | February 23, 2011 8:38 PM | Report abuse

ftb, I swear insurance and autobody work are a racket. Geekdottir is driving her grandmother's car, a '97 Galante which she loves. Last spring, a woman turned left in front of her and clipped the right front bumper and headlight. Of course the insurance company totalled it, but we got it fixed anyway and she's still happily on her way. She wasn't going to get anything for it before the wreck, and buying a new vehicle isn't in her budget, so why not?

Posted by: slyness | February 23, 2011 9:05 PM | Report abuse

God loves us so much more than we can imagine through Him that died for all, Jesus Christ.

Good evening, friends. Been a long day, real long. TBG, I am so very sorry about your sister, my heart really goes out to you and your family, and as always will keep you in my prayers.

Kbert, like the quote.

I missed you guys this morning because I had school detail, and gearing up for both of them tonight.

JA, in reading your kit, I thought about my grandmother that had a farm. They were up real early in the mornings, and it seems the work never got done. There was always something to do. I really liked that place, but was of course, afraid of the animals. My grandmother used to make their own butter, churning it with something that was used by hand. They had their own milk and eggs, the whole lot. It seems like such a long time ago.

One of the deacons at the church passed away yesterday morning so it was kind of sad at Bible study tonight. He was 87 years old. He and I would always be the first ones there on Sunday morning. I will miss him.

Slyness, I see they found the missing woman in the river. So much going on, almost hate to look at the news sometimes. Hope you are well.

TBG, I know you are sad, but I hope you can feel all the love from here.

Have a good rest tonight, folks, and love to all.

Posted by: cmyth4u | February 23, 2011 9:12 PM | Report abuse

Dreamer!!! *HUGSSSSSS* :-)

Posted by: Scottynuke | February 23, 2011 9:13 PM | Report abuse

I change my mind. Qaddafi doesn't look like MIcheal Jackson. He is more like a mashup of Charles Bronson and Arnold Horshack.

Posted by: baldinho | February 23, 2011 9:24 PM | Report abuse


Someone said that as soon as all the snow melts, they were going to search again for Phylicia Barnes. I'm hoping for a good outcome, but the longer she remains missing, I don't know if that will be the case. It's like she vanished in thin air.

Posted by: cmyth4u | February 23, 2011 9:24 PM | Report abuse

Not done backboodling after a too long absence but I must post now to wish TBG all the hugs and love in the world, and then some more.

Posted by: frostbitten1 | February 23, 2011 9:52 PM | Report abuse

Not fiction, but a great slog book- Unbroken. I'm only about 100 pages into it, but have deliberately slowed down so as not to finish too fast. Hillenbrand has me dieing to find out what happens next, and I know the basic outline of the story.

Posted by: frostbitten1 | February 23, 2011 10:03 PM | Report abuse

Drive-by boodling. Will back boodle soon.

tbg, I am sooo sorry for your loss. You and your sister and your family are in my thoughts.

many hugs.

Posted by: oldbam | February 23, 2011 10:48 PM | Report abuse

I made weed's Scarpariello chicken last weekend. It has an interesting side effect; the bin of compostable waste smelled great with the leftovers from 10 crushed garlic cloves.
Apart from that it's pretty good, semi-hot and garlicky. I put my meat snobbiness aside and used 6 dirt cheap chicken legs that I found on special. I skinned and trimmed them then separated the tighs from the drums. It's amazing how much fat these little commercial battery chicken pack.
There is too much liquid added in the recipe though, let it reduce at least 3/4 before the final pass in the oven. Better yet, add less of it.
This was my fatuous culinary comment of the day.
I made a lasagna tonight that Gourmet qualified as the best in the world but I'll comment only after eating it. But I am skeptic already.

Posted by: shrieking_denizen | February 23, 2011 11:18 PM | Report abuse

Greetings to Tom Fan / Dreamer--good to see ya. :-) <3 etc.

I just finished a good book, kind of strange: E.L. Doctorow's "Homer and Langley". It's written so well that I didn't even realize the artistry of it until halfway through but by the end I was left rather stunned with admiration.

Thanks again to the just-read-more-novels promotion; I'm still reading fiction on its momentum. (Homer and Langley is "historical fiction," an imagined account of a real family.)

Good night, now!

Posted by: kbertocci | February 24, 2011 1:05 AM | Report abuse

Alexandra Petri on cellphones.

As someone who uses only a pre-paid cheapo one for long-distance travel and power outages (I'm just a semi-Luddite) I was 'wryly amused'. Petri is a gift, imho.

Posted by: talitha1 | February 24, 2011 2:02 AM | Report abuse

God loves us so much more than we can imagine through Him that died for all, Jesus Christ.

Good morning, friends. Just wanted to stop in and holler. It feels like I never went to bed. Oh well, time to get cracking, today is a school day.

Slyness, cold this morning, you will probably have to wrap up a little bit.

Have a better-than-average day, folks, and love to all.

Posted by: cmyth4u | February 24, 2011 6:16 AM | Report abuse

Always feel good following cmythu!

I enjoyed Homer and Langley, too.

Shrieking just reminded me I put chicken quarters in the oven last night. Would that I'd remembered to turn it on. Ugh!

Posted by: -dbG- | February 24, 2011 7:30 AM | Report abuse

I fear today will be an exercise in advanced slogging. A bunch of meetings. Everyone is getting increasingly concerned about a government shutdown. The world doesn't stop.

Posted by: RD_Padouk | February 24, 2011 8:12 AM | Report abuse

Morning, all, hi Cassandra! Rather chilly here too. Today my slog is taxes. Gotta get everything in order, to go to the accountant on Monday. We're going to owe, I'm sure.

Good to see Dreamer around!

Cassandra, I hope you're getting the kids off to school soon so you can sit down and rest. Do you have the baby?

Hope everyone has a pleasant day!

Posted by: slyness | February 24, 2011 8:16 AM | Report abuse

I'm glad to see at least one columnist is treating that cell phone "study" appropriately, talitha. There's much less there than meets the eye, IMHO.

*just-one-more-crazy-busy-day-before-a-much-needed-vacation Grover waves* :-)

Posted by: Scottynuke | February 24, 2011 8:30 AM | Report abuse

Morning, y'all!

Hey, Scotty ... *wave*
Early bon voyage. Sure hope you have a dee-lightful time with the NukeSpawn.

Waking slowly after an oddly fitful night's sleep. There was a perfect half-disc of moon hanging outside my window at 3:30am so wakefulness had it's upside, too.

Good Thursday to all!

Posted by: talitha1 | February 24, 2011 8:51 AM | Report abuse

And, now, for something completely different ...

Posted by: ftb3 | February 24, 2011 8:54 AM | Report abuse

ftb, that evoked a memory I'd prefer to forget. Back during my teenaged baby-sitting career I frequently tended to the three children of neighbors. These folks were infamous for 'adopting' wild critters of various species. Foxes, a land tortoise large enough for children to ride, snakes, squirrels, raccoons and ... yes ... an alligator. These pets were usually taken in when wounded or abandoned and were generally well segregated in humane conditions.

But one night when I was babysitting and needed to 'use the facilities' I ventured into the basement bathroom. The minute I opened the door the 4-foot alligator sprang. My parents had a serious talk with the neighbors before they allowed me to sit for them again.

Posted by: talitha1 | February 24, 2011 9:29 AM | Report abuse

I'll see your gator and raise you some frozen flashers-

Posted by: kguy1 | February 24, 2011 9:45 AM | Report abuse

Howdy y'all. It is raining cats and dogs here, even some little hail. I won't complain, because we sure do need it.

Today a bunch of illustrious Oklahoma women are coming to the Capitol for a gala luncheon and awards ceremony. This one honors women in public service, a sort of run-up to the OK Women's Hall of Fame ceremony in April. One great privilege of being involved with some of these organizations is that I get to hang out with some really wonderful, impressive women.

Posted by: Ivansmom | February 24, 2011 9:47 AM | Report abuse

There's nowt wrong wi' gala luncheons, lad!!! I've had more gala luncheons that you've had hot dinners!!

*straightening tie & smoothing hair*

Sorry, couldn't help myself. :-)

Posted by: Scottynuke | February 24, 2011 9:52 AM | Report abuse

"One great privilege of being involved with some of these organizations is that I get to hang out with some really wonderful, impressive women."

That could be said about the boodle (especially by adding "and men" at the end.

Posted by: -TBG- | February 24, 2011 9:59 AM | Report abuse

That's very true, TBG. It is a rare privilege.

Posted by: Ivansmom | February 24, 2011 10:07 AM | Report abuse

'... the OK Women's Hall of Fame'

Is that like the Mediocre Men's Statuary Corrider? I believe that's located somewhere in the US Capitol, just off the congressional assembly room.

Posted by: talitha1 | February 24, 2011 10:19 AM | Report abuse

Toongsten carbide drills is it? Well la di dah! Yer mam's worked her fingers to tha bone wi' fancy luncheons an gala premiers and all you can talk about is yer toonsten carbide drills.

Posted by: kguy1 | February 24, 2011 10:22 AM | Report abuse

I-Mom, I trust you know I'm only being stoooooopid. I blame it on insomnia.
Enjoy the luncheon.

Hugs and much more to TBG.

Posted by: talitha1 | February 24, 2011 10:31 AM | Report abuse

Well, it's relatively good news. Just heard from the inspector from my insurance company, who told me that it was *not* a total loss (in their consideration), and told me how much money I would be getting. I'll take the car to the shop either later today or first thing in the morning (in the rain, of course), and let them have at it.

Other than dragging the "rubber thingy" on the road, there are no other rattles, and the car rides fine. As for any body damage, I'll make that decision when we get the other stuff fixed. At least (apart from insignificant paint scraping and wee dents) it doesn't look like a wreck.

AND, I don't have to shop for a new (or new used) car at this time.


Posted by: ftb3 | February 24, 2011 10:49 AM | Report abuse

Just a brief drop-in. Cloudy and chilly here in Metro DC. Rain expected tonight and tomorrow, along with more high winds. Have to work again tonight, and next Monday and Thursday too.

Posted by: ebtnut | February 24, 2011 10:50 AM | Report abuse

Actually my favorite here is the hall with busts of heads of former governors. We call it the Hall of Heads. I always wanted to put Santa hats on them in December.

Time to go set up.

Posted by: Ivansmom | February 24, 2011 10:52 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: kguy1 | February 24, 2011 11:35 AM | Report abuse

I-Mom, do it! And post the photos for us to see. I'm sure it will be hilarious.

Posted by: slyness | February 24, 2011 11:45 AM | Report abuse

The Westboro hate-mongers with stupid frosting on top are targeting my son's high school next week.

Responses underway that will involve shoulder-to-shoulder standing....

Posted by: CollegeQuaParkian1 | February 24, 2011 11:56 AM | Report abuse

Wouldn't that be a crime of lèse-gubernotorial majesty I-mom?
The OK legislators seem to have plenty of time on their hands, they should make it a crime if it isn't already.

The Westboro Church would win the Dysfunctional Family of the Year Award every it it would be awarded. They make the Menendez look good; at least they kept it in the family.

Posted by: shrieking_denizen | February 24, 2011 12:42 PM | Report abuse

How come "dragging [one's] rubber thingy on the road" sends chills up my spine? I hesitate to think what Click and Clack, the Tappet Brothers, would do with that.

Posted by: curmudgeon6 | February 24, 2011 12:51 PM | Report abuse

To heck with Ron Paul; I want my money convertible to toongsten!

Posted by: Jumper1 | February 24, 2011 12:58 PM | Report abuse

What's the problem, CQP? The church members said the school was "perfect-run". Oh, that's "pervert-run". Never mind.

Posted by: kguy1 | February 24, 2011 1:03 PM | Report abuse

Mercy, CqP!

My crazy sister from Richmond and I were talking last night about the 'decor' of the bathroom she and husband have renovated. This morning I got this link from her with the message "... too tacky or just too too?" ;)

Posted by: talitha1 | February 24, 2011 1:13 PM | Report abuse

Miss CqP, will you be standing by Sunday evening for some live-blogging during the Oscars? Red Carpet at 7 p.m., awards start at 8 (well, the show does). I would be bereft were you not there to advise on all things fasionista.

Posted by: curmudgeon6 | February 24, 2011 1:17 PM | Report abuse

You had tungsten carbide drill bits? When I was a kid we were so poor we couldn't afford tungsten drill bits. We had to make do with drill bits made out of twigs. And we would suck on Hall's Eucalyptus lozenges to make our tongues numb, and then we would lick the twigs to make them tongue-stunned.

Posted by: curmudgeon6 | February 24, 2011 1:30 PM | Report abuse

Mudge has made one of the classic errors. Not of course as bad as getting involved in a land war in Asia, but a classic error nonetheless. He has conflated the "Playwright sketch" with the "Four Yorkshiremen sketch." Geez I hate it when people misconscrew things.

Posted by: kguy1 | February 24, 2011 1:37 PM | Report abuse

//a gala luncheon and awards ceremony//

I'll venture that this isn't the ceremony where the Pork Princess is crowned. Even lacking that, sounds like fun.

I seem to work in a department of gamblers. Last year one started out at Parx, did so well that she drove to AC then had flown to Vegas by the end of the day (hate to waste a winning streak). Usually we have a birthday lunch per month, dutch treat, but she had it catered for the group that month. Today, another colleague, same end result. Something about a Texas Hold'em tournament.

I have to get out more.

Posted by: -dbG- | February 24, 2011 1:45 PM | Report abuse

If I conflated it was because I had the chili for lunch.

My apologies to anyone in the vicinity.

Posted by: curmudgeon6 | February 24, 2011 1:58 PM | Report abuse

Good day all. Got an email from bc, who can't post from work. Asked me to post this for him.

* * * * *

The Army used Psiops to influence Congress?

Didn't they already make that movie - "Men Who Stare at Goats"?

ftb, glad to hear it - all will be well soon, I'm sure.

Gaddafi Blames Revolt on bin Laden?

Really? Gaddafi's going for hot buttons here, I think. Suspect his next ploy to try to get the West to get him out of his mess will be claims that WMDs are loose in his country. He probably has chemical weapons (gas, etc.) and might just be crazy and evil enough to use them on his own people and blame it on bin Laden or Israel or anyone else.


Posted by: LostInThought | February 24, 2011 2:02 PM | Report abuse

I guess he figures he can gain US support with this claim...

Gaddafi blames Libya revolt on bin Laden

"...In a rambling phone call to Libyan state television, Gaddafi, 68, said young protesters were under the influence of hallucinogenic pills given to them "in their coffee with milk, like Nescafe..."

Posted by: -TBG- | February 24, 2011 3:28 PM | Report abuse

Mmmmmmmm, hallucinogenic Nescafe....

Posted by: GomerGross | February 24, 2011 3:49 PM | Report abuse

Mmmmmmmm, hallucinogenic Nescafe....

Posted by: GomerGross


*That* explains the rabbit.

Posted by: byoolin1 | February 24, 2011 4:03 PM | Report abuse

Yes . . . and it's time to share.

Posted by: cowhand214 | February 24, 2011 4:22 PM | Report abuse

Good to the last drop!

Posted by: dmd3 | February 24, 2011 4:25 PM | Report abuse

The protesters should tell Qaddafi: We can't stop here! This is bat country!

Posted by: cowhand214 | February 24, 2011 4:30 PM | Report abuse

Anyone else watching Discovery?

The shuttle, not the channel.

Posted by: MoftheMountain | February 24, 2011 4:34 PM | Report abuse

Wanna hear something funny. I started the "Working Class Playwright" skit the same time I started the "Four Yorkshiremen skit"

With the volume on the Yorkshiremen skit low, while watching the Playwright skit, I thought the radio was on in the Playwright skit.

Posted by: omni3 | February 24, 2011 4:53 PM | Report abuse

Hmmm. A couple of problems with the Nescafe claim....if acid, you wouldn't mix it with anything lest you kill it. If shrooms, making tea is a more popular choice than mixing it with coffee (and no way you'd hide the taste), but considering the habits of those in the region, mixing it with khat might have been a whole lot easier. Besides, wouldn't the populace think the world was all flowers, rainbows and unicorns, not deranged dictators? Not that I know anything about anything. But it could explain Princess Sparkle Pony.

Posted by: LostInThought | February 24, 2011 5:07 PM | Report abuse

Thanks for the reminder, MotM. I did watch. Amazing to think this is the last launch for Discovery.

Posted by: slyness | February 24, 2011 5:10 PM | Report abuse

Oh I don't know, slyness. It has more miles on it than my Honda and that is on its last legs.

Posted by: Yoki | February 24, 2011 5:11 PM | Report abuse

Shroom tea and psychedelic coffee?
Hummmmmmm ...
I'll bring the brownies.

Posted by: talitha1 | February 24, 2011 5:26 PM | Report abuse

"Don't eat those brownies they are Alice B Tolkas brownies"!

Posted by: dmd3 | February 24, 2011 5:32 PM | Report abuse

No problem, a co-worker reminded me so I thought I'd pass it on. Glad to see it went well. :)

I agree. It will be weird when all the shuttles are retired. I know there will still be Americans going up into space, but I don't know how I feel that we won't be able to get ourselves there anymore. I don't think I'm articulating it well, but there will be a hole. Like something we used to do well and have let lapse.

Posted by: MoftheMountain | February 24, 2011 5:50 PM | Report abuse

MotM -- I think we'll just have to add that to the list of all the things we used to do well and have let lapse.


Posted by: ftb3 | February 24, 2011 6:16 PM | Report abuse

My kids are working hard to find things to make me smile. This one did the trick. I bring you...

Babies Eating Lemons for the First Time

Posted by: -TBG- | February 24, 2011 7:45 PM | Report abuse

Well, there are plans afoot to get to space by other means, not all of them involving purchasing access from Russia. SpaceX has demonstrated the Falcon 9 launch vehicle and Dragon capsule. The capsule interior is not yet habitable, but it flew with appropriate control systems and appropriate mass; it orbited, re-entered, and landed safely. Keep this up, and we actually may be able to buy functional space capsules off the shelf.

Posted by: ScienceTim | February 24, 2011 8:16 PM | Report abuse

Hey, TBG, let me try.

Laser cat bowling:

(I got it from a facebook friend, so everyone's probably already seen it. I'm going to have to share the lemon one around now.)

Posted by: -bia- | February 24, 2011 8:20 PM | Report abuse

No wonder the kids didn't like the lemons they forgot the tequila and salt.

Funny video, don't remember trying lemons or limes with my kids.

Posted by: dmd3 | February 24, 2011 8:27 PM | Report abuse

Weird weather here on the left coast. Been snowing for two and half days but hardly ever builds up. Light fluffy small flakes the build up a couple inches then when it stops for a while it all disappears. But the I-5 summit is presently closed.

Click on the camera at the Oregon border. Hundreds of trucks stopped heading north but the sun is almost shinning on the California side.

Posted by: bh72 | February 24, 2011 8:40 PM | Report abuse

Throwing my hat in the ring for funny videos:

more babies:

My mother said I could:


Posted by: -dbG- | February 24, 2011 9:11 PM | Report abuse

hmmmmmmmm acid,I think alot of revolutions would get going if everyone was tripping.Also that explains why everyone in those mideast countries is so fanatical and dancing around like madmen.Really they are all just laughing their asses off and can't control themselves. For good or for bad,Been there,done that.

Now there was a half million people at woodstock,I wonder what the percentage of folks tripping was.I have been to several Gratefull dead shows where I think I was the only one who wasn't tripping.One dead show at merriwheather post in the 70's there was a long line where they were giving away AC.It explains it all.

Posted by: greenwithenvy | February 24, 2011 9:28 PM | Report abuse

GWE: the one time I went to see Pink Floyd I felt the same way. I was one of the few that was unadulterated that night.

Posted by: baldinho | February 24, 2011 9:34 PM | Report abuse

Something we used to do well and let lapse? Like going to the Moon? Oy.

I think the new capusles are fine - as are the Russian Soyuz - but when I was a kid, I could go anywhere in the Galaxy in a cardboard box used to deliver a Kenmore dryer. All I needed was some Ho-Hos in the old-school aluminum foil wrappers for the trip (and I could use the foil to create Space Goggles or Control Toggles or Andorran Antennae...)

Discovery does indeed have millions of miles on it, but I think they're mostly highway miles... I'd add that the US fleet of B-52s are approaching their 60th anniversary of service...

Good hardware can last a long time - my Olde German Sedan has enough miles to have driven past the moon. I take care of it pretty well, and it's taken good care of me.

The STS fleet's been pretty well taken care of, IMO.


Posted by: -bc- | February 24, 2011 9:35 PM | Report abuse

Here on the central coast of California, several hundred miles south of bh72, our weather forecast is for snow in much of the area and extending south into the mountains around Santa Barbara. Odd! Unusual! Cold!

My dad used to say "Cold as a well diggers boot." I was very old before I figured that one out.

Posted by: nellie4 | February 24, 2011 9:38 PM | Report abuse

Hi BH, always appreciate your left coast reports.

Posted by: CollegeQuaParkian1 | February 24, 2011 9:38 PM | Report abuse

USAF just announced the Boeing has won the contract for the new tankers.

Posted by: bh72 | February 24, 2011 9:48 PM | Report abuse

Hi Boodle,

Been gone a few days, as it is, what we call 'the winter vacation' time for the kids here.

TBG, my condolences for your loss and my humble prayer for you and your family. May her life and her memory comfort you in times that seem so hard to bear. A big and warm hug, if I may.

Posted by: JyriSulin | February 24, 2011 9:49 PM | Report abuse

TBG, glad your kids are doing their job.

It snowed here. Luckily it waited till about 7 pm yesterday, so I went to the Flower Show as planned. This morning there was a few inches of snow here, so I trudged gingerly down the hill and scrambled onto the old chained-up bus they use when it's snowy. The snow melted from the streets and sidewalks during the day so it's just pretty now. Overnight we're supposed to have a record-breaking low - 19 degrees. Brrrr.

Posted by: seasea1 | February 24, 2011 10:01 PM | Report abuse

TBG, Thanks to you and your youn'uns for giving us that lemon-sucking baby youtube. I spent considerable time looking at other baby videos on the site, and I came away with a much better mood after hearing some bad news about my foot.

I love that your kids are trying to distract and amuse you. It shows the love they have for you.

As we all do.

Posted by: rickoshea12 | February 24, 2011 10:42 PM | Report abuse

TBG, so sorry to hear about your sister. My condolences to you and your family.

Posted by: rainforest1 | February 25, 2011 4:04 AM | Report abuse

Rainforest! How are your dogs?

Posted by: Yoki | February 25, 2011 4:10 AM | Report abuse

Check out The New Yorker, Anniversary Edition, of Feb. 14 and 21.

There is a strangely personal (to me) piece by Rebecca Mead (a writer whom I admire always) about George Eliot's "Middlemarch." My desert-island novel.

"The first time I read George Eliot's Middlemarch, I was seventeen years old..." (me too).

Later in the same article,

"I have gone back to 'Middlemarch' every five years or so, my emotional response to it evolving at each revisiting." (mine, too)

It was just, simply, strange and liberating to meet myself, only you know, better educated, articulate, *published.* Cathartic, I guess.

I am not alone!

Posted by: Yoki | February 25, 2011 4:58 AM | Report abuse

LiT, I'd tend to say Princess Sparkle Pony is more the result of PCP flashbacks, but anyway...

Why am I envisioning a movie in a couple years where society has to grab Discovery out of the museum and get in flightworthy in a week to save the Hubble so we can properly receive a planet-saving message from aliens? Or something...

And now it's time to finish packing for vacation!!! :-)))))

*not-gonna-say-nuttin'-'bout-weather-to-avoid-jinxin'-things Grover waves* :-)

Posted by: Scottynuke | February 25, 2011 5:19 AM | Report abuse

Morning Scotty.

Yoki, one of my dogs has tick fever. She acted like she's okay, but she really is not. She's sleeping a lot. The other is getting old and having an eating problem. She's is always groaking (Thanks, ora, for the word.)

Posted by: rainforest1 | February 25, 2011 5:35 AM | Report abuse

I love groaking. Also, that old dogs are stoic. Steady.

p'raps that explains me.

Take care of them.

Posted by: Yoki | February 25, 2011 5:58 AM | Report abuse

'morning all. A bit of snow is on the way than some rain and positively Vancouverite temperature. That will be a muddy spring with little snow on the ground.

Witch no.2 finished her IB's final year project this morning around 02:00. She didn't fall far from the paternal tree.

Gaddafi's solution to the crisis is to ask fathers and granfathers to give a stern talking to to these uppity youth. He is so disconnected with reality that he would be funny if it weren't for him unleashing his thugs, mercenaries most, against his own people.

Posted by: shrieking_denizen | February 25, 2011 6:45 AM | Report abuse

I see Kent Dorfman - R (NH) is getting some press coverage. He has boldly decided to do exactly what the GOP old guard has told him to do. Health care for the poor? No, but if they are feeling sick they can always have their spirits lifted by knowing that the money went to a second jet engine contract.

Posted by: baldinho | February 25, 2011 7:04 AM | Report abuse

Here is a good article about the one big controversy that followed Dorfman to Washington. The picture is worth reading the link.

Posted by: baldinho | February 25, 2011 7:15 AM | Report abuse

God loves us so much more than we can imagine through Him that died for all, Jesus Christ.

Good morning, friends. Slyness, I've had the whole crew(baby & g-girl) for the past two days. Mom is sick. I took both of them to the after school program yesterday. You can imagine when I got home last night, I was beyond tired, if there's a space in that zone. On the way to school now. Yesterday morning, me and the g-girl were doing breathing treatments, she on one end of the table, me on the other end. God is good.

More later.

Have a wonderful day, folks, and love to all.

Posted by: cmyth4u | February 25, 2011 7:20 AM | Report abuse

Goot morninkz, ye Boodlers!

Ghaddafi, who?
I´ve been too busy watchin serious stuff at the six o´clock position. Like what happened yesterday ar the Viña del Mar International Song Festival.

The rock band Calle 13 came on stage, sang their song, then went into another number, and another, yet another. By 4 AM, they were still playing. That is when a strong police contingent removed them from the stage.

Brag :)

Posted by: Braguine | February 25, 2011 7:30 AM | Report abuse

With the tanker contract going to Boeing and the second jet engine being built, who is left to take out full page color ads in the WaPo? I see the resolution of defense procurement issues being very bad for the financial health of newspapers and subway billboard companies in the DC area.

Posted by: yellojkt | February 25, 2011 7:40 AM | Report abuse

Good morning, all. It's raining in the Carolinas, so I slept in. Cassandra, I hope you can sleep in tomorrow. Having both the kids must be exhausting!

Ruth Marcus on Mike Huckabee this morning is amusing.

Posted by: slyness | February 25, 2011 8:02 AM | Report abuse

Good morning snowing here but just lightly expected storm has been downgraded, typical. Understand my in-laws just east of us are getting blizzard conditions though.

So glad it is Friday for a short week this one dragged along sooo long. Have to get ready for a gala dinner I am going to go to tomorrow with the women from work (for a Women's shelter), haven't gotten all dresses/gussied up in a long time - hope I remember how to walk in heels.

Posted by: dmd3 | February 25, 2011 8:18 AM | Report abuse

yellojkt - not to mention WTOP. One wonders if the LDS folks are selling to the Twin Cities folks at precisely the right time?

Posted by: ArmyBrat1 | February 25, 2011 8:53 AM | Report abuse

I think the jet engine got scrapped by the house vote. That makes it only the porkers in the Senate as able to revive it.

Posted by: baldinho | February 25, 2011 9:17 AM | Report abuse

Howdy y'all. I have a question. I am under the impression that I have been sending email from my iPad but it may not always actually go through. I have mailed several of you in the last few days. Would anyone who might have expected to receive an email from me just say here on the Boodle if you got one? or not?

I'm also sending out a piece of snail mail today. Que es mas macho, snail mail or Internet?

Posted by: Ivansmom | February 25, 2011 9:48 AM | Report abuse

I e-mailed you a question yesterday about 1:10 p.m. (my time) concerning something having to do with the year 1977. I haven't received a reply, if that helps answer your question.

'Morning, Boodle.

Can anyone fax me a cup of that enticing hallucinogenic Nescafe? Nothing I like better than being hyper-alert when objects begin to melt and there's giant spiders crawling up the walls.

Posted by: curmudgeon6 | February 25, 2011 9:59 AM | Report abuse

An immense Chinese-financed and Chinese-built resort is coming to Cable Beach, Nassau, The Bahamas:

It's described as an effort to restore Cable Beach to its former glory. Maybe Daytona Beach could use something similar.

Posted by: DaveoftheCoonties | February 25, 2011 10:11 AM | Report abuse

Alas, Mudge, I am embarrassed to admit that I just now responded to your email. However, if the response doesn't drift into your inbox in the relatively recent future, I'll know more than I do know.

Of course, it is a given that in the future I'll know more than I do know. That's never hard.

I took your suggestion, Mudge, and referred to our legislators as Oedipal to a select few people yesterday. It was fun to see how long the reactions took.

Posted by: Ivansmom | February 25, 2011 10:13 AM | Report abuse

"The city of Shanghai - which already follows China's one-child policy - has announced a new rule for households."


Posted by: kguy1 | February 25, 2011 10:16 AM | Report abuse

Got your e-mail a minute ago, IM. Then a funny thing happened. I replied to it-- and got a bounce-back message that it was undeliverable, with no reason why. (Sometimes the bounceback says why. This one didn't.)

Methinks there's a glitch in your e-mail account with that organization.

Posted by: curmudgeon6 | February 25, 2011 10:21 AM | Report abuse

Good 29 degree morning from the left coast. We got a fresh inch plus of snow last night. Very thin clouds now so it probably will melt soon.
What a difference sixty feet in elevation makes, We have a black shale driveway that curls up from the highway in a 'S' curve and the shale that is covered up here is black in the tracks at the bottom.

10 degrees is forecast for tomorrow morning. Got the check the light bulbs in the pump house or no water for coffee in the morning.

Posted by: bh72 | February 25, 2011 10:26 AM | Report abuse

Morning, all.

The car's in the shop getting ready for the operation. I made it a point not to feed it for 24 hours, and drove it oh-so-gingerly over there in the drizzle, gave it a kiss and told it that all would be well. Because it has to.

When I got home, I took the loaner car from outside near the park (with big old trees in front) and put it down into the garage. I figured it would be just my luck when the 60 mph winds come through this afternoon that any number of trees would pick my loaner car upon which to topple. So, I decided to deprive them of the opportuniky.

The guys at the station told me that I would be able to pick it up on Monday. Hope that's the case. I just want to put the whole sorry mess behind me.

TBG, those babies eating the lemons and limes were precious. Poor things. Not exactly what they expected! Wait until they try jalapenos.....

Posted by: ftb3 | February 25, 2011 10:32 AM | Report abuse

Thanks, Mudge. The funny thing is, I bet when I open up my laptop this afternoon, it will be there.

Posted by: Ivansmom | February 25, 2011 10:45 AM | Report abuse

Good morning, y'all.

Warm banananana bread, hot coffee and chilled OJ on the table.

TBG, loved the link. Thanks.

dmd, enjoy the gala event.

ftb, did you remember to leave your car's favorite stuffed animal on the back seat for love and security?

faxing blankets to the chilly left-coast boodlers.

Cassandra, don't let the kids wear you out. I hope all in your fam who are sick get well quickly.

Posted by: MsJS | February 25, 2011 10:53 AM | Report abuse

We are right at the snow/sleet/rain line. So far about 4 inches of heavy wet snow, and it has recently switched to ice.

There are a lot of tree branches that won't make it through the day, I suspect.

Posted by: baldinho | February 25, 2011 11:05 AM | Report abuse

Hmmmmm. Just got a call from the shop, and there appears to be some frame damage. So, it goes to a body shop buddy of his (I trust these people, so I'm not worried about being ripped off, plus they know I'm an attorney).

It's now gonna take a week. I hope they tuck in my baby every night and read it stories.


Posted by: ftb3 | February 25, 2011 11:22 AM | Report abuse

A belated good morning everybody. I have the day off so slept a bit late then tackled the first of many todo's for today. I cleaned out the large cabinet in the bathroom and got a whole garbage bag worth of expired meds, old nail polish, almost empty lotions, etc., so I feel very accomplished.

It is pouring buckets here. I just checked the cellar even tho' I'm pretty sure we won't have a repeat of the floods of last Spring. That was a horror which I do not wish to revisit.

Cassandra, hope everyone gets well quickly. dmd, be careful in those high heels but have fun.

I am off to do some semi-serious vacuuming (it's too dark to bother with the corners ;-)

Posted by: badsneakers | February 25, 2011 11:23 AM | Report abuse


Posted by: curmudgeon6 | February 25, 2011 1:21 PM | Report abuse

Yup, t'were daid, one hour and 58 minutes. Poor thang wuz all blue and cyanotic.

Posted by: curmudgeon6 | February 25, 2011 1:22 PM | Report abuse

On your expired meds, badsneakers, I recommend that you dispose of them by throwing them into your oven and running the self-cleaning cycle. That will burn them up and result in primarily gaseous waste, rather than introducing those chemicals, intact and operable, into the waste stream. It's energy-intensive, so you might want to burn them up by other means unless your oven needs a cleaning and has a self-clean capability.

Posted by: ScienceTim | February 25, 2011 1:24 PM | Report abuse

A fellow Boodler posted this on Facebook, but I think it needs to be brought to the attention of the general Boodle (so thanks and beg pardon, dmd):

Who marrying a good speller is important:

Posted by: curmudgeon6 | February 25, 2011 1:28 PM | Report abuse

Tim - Re: Your suggestion to cook the old meds. My question would be, at that high heat (400 deg. or so) would the meds break down into their base chemical components, some of which might be bad for you in their noncombinant state. I'm thinking of the analogy of salt - sodium and chlorine combined are safe and necessary to the diet. By themselves, they are BAD stuff.

Posted by: ebtnut | February 25, 2011 1:32 PM | Report abuse

Got 3 from you yesterday, Imom.

Email me if you want to test and I'll respond here and there.

Posted by: -dbG- | February 25, 2011 1:35 PM | Report abuse

Plan your summer vacations accordingly - for food & chardonnay fans - just received notification of this.

Posted by: dmd3 | February 25, 2011 1:45 PM | Report abuse

bad, you could alway mail or FedEx the oxycontin to Rush Limbaugh.

Posted by: curmudgeon6 | February 25, 2011 1:46 PM | Report abuse

pardon begged :-)

Posted by: dmd3 | February 25, 2011 1:50 PM | Report abuse

The two most frequent suggestions for disposal of expired meds that I have heard are mixing then with coffee grounds and disposing in sealed container the trash, and flushing down the loo. The flushing option applies only to things like Percocet and Oxycontin, etc., or as Rushbo like to say, the good stuff. Here's the FDA straight dope, so to speak-

Posted by: kguy1 | February 25, 2011 1:57 PM | Report abuse

Can you not take them back to a pharmacy for safe disposal - recommended method here.

Posted by: dmd3 | February 25, 2011 2:18 PM | Report abuse

Excellent, dbg, thanks.

I am going to pick up a legal writing class mid-semester at a local law school, beginning next week. We are doing the "paperwork" today. They assigned me an email account in 2009, the last time I taught for them, but I could never access it. Today I learned the magic code, and found 4044 emails in my inbox. I have had a good time deleting. These are university-wide messages, mostly. As I skimmed past the titles waiting on "delete" to kick in, I saw many, many, which seem to result from the dreaded "reply to all".

Posted by: Ivansmom | February 25, 2011 2:28 PM | Report abuse

Honestly, dmd, that makes too much sense!

There's a program hereabouts where one can send unused, unexpired medications to be given to those who need them and don't have the wherewithal to purchase. I wish we had known that before we flushed my mother-in-law's oxycotin into the septic field.

Posted by: slyness | February 25, 2011 2:31 PM | Report abuse

I think I should have been more specific about the 'meds'. I'm talking only about expired OTC things like cold medicine. Anything really good gets used, not thrown away (kidding!). I just cleaned my oven during the last really cold spell, but I'll remember that advice for the next time - if I have anything dangerous to get rid of.

Still raining hard and now blowing hard too. Glad this isn't snow, it would be epic. Think I'll make some cookies to take with us tomorrow when we go visit "S"'s nephew in Maine. It's a sledding/birthday party for nephew's three year old son. Last year when we went, there was no snow at all. I think they're getting slammed today, so lack of snow will not be an issue.

Posted by: badsneakers | February 25, 2011 2:31 PM | Report abuse

My local Safeway will take back drugs to dispose of -- but they want to charge you $5 freaking dollars for the service. My response cannot be fully encompassed even with those characters above the numbers on my keyboard. I'd have to go into Microsoft Word's symbol tool to find some new symbols to handle it. (It has some good ones with pointing fingers, just not the right finger.)

Posted by: curmudgeon6 | February 25, 2011 2:37 PM | Report abuse

Recommendations from Health Canada, it includes OTC drugs.

Posted by: dmd3 | February 25, 2011 2:37 PM | Report abuse

The self-clean cycle goes way hotter than 400°F, ebtnut. I don't have it calibrated, but I can tell you that it is hot enough, for long enough, to completely oxidize and eliminate the polymeric nonstick coating on a cookie sheet. Medications would not be vaporized, they would be fully oxidized into simple molecules like H2O, CO2, CO, and so forth.

Posted by: ScienceTim | February 25, 2011 2:39 PM | Report abuse

Is there a point at which an oven is too dirty to safely self-clean? Is that point likely to be reached by everyday cooking buildup (not in use every day) over, say, a couple of years? (hanging head in shame)

Posted by: Ivansmom | February 25, 2011 2:45 PM | Report abuse

Hey, y'all ... and greetings from a gray and blustery Shen Valley.

I'm still getting the occasional chuckle over the Eucalyptus vs Oak Street 911 call.
(Coincidentally, my son once lived on a Eucalyptus Ave. and was born on an Oak St.)

Badsneaks is doing some semi-serious vacuuming? That's what my mother calls "giving it a lick and a promise".
I confess that it's my usual method.

Hope everyone's workweek is winding down smoothly. Later .....

Posted by: talitha1 | February 25, 2011 2:46 PM | Report abuse

Via Dave Barry. Presented without further comment-

I would vote for the Pepto-Shake, but I don't see it listed.

Posted by: kguy1 | February 25, 2011 2:46 PM | Report abuse

The pharmacies here accepts the left-over meds but it is not because they have a heart of gold. It's a condition of their licence.
It's been a long week. I treated myself to an overpriced left coast coffee at noon (an Obnoxious Generalissimo as I recall)but I am fading fast now. Got to last the last 25 minutes without hitting my forehead on the keyboard.

Posted by: shrieking_denizen | February 25, 2011 2:52 PM | Report abuse

Eucalyptus isn't native in this area (Of course!) but there is one in a yard we pass on our daily walk. It doesn't do well in snow and ice. The last snow event decimated it; one trunk split and had to be cut up and discarded. Dunno if I'd want something like that in my yard.

Posted by: slyness | February 25, 2011 2:57 PM | Report abuse

I just read Gail Collins's NYT column "revenge of the Pomeranians". Hilarious.

Posted by: Ivansmom | February 25, 2011 3:17 PM | Report abuse

I'm pretty sure you could self-clean a log into oblivion, if you wanted to, since the heat is produced primarily by the oven itself, rather than the combustion of other materials. Although I wouldn't try it -- we learn in science by proving our hypotheses false, and you might not like for oven-cleaning to be a learning experience. Regular oven-gunk, however, is exactly what it's for. Go for it!

Posted by: ScienceTim | February 25, 2011 3:21 PM | Report abuse

Last time my self cleaning, over used and oven needed cleaning, we moved - seemed easier - it was a gas oven the thought of using the self cleaning setting frightened me, but I have issues with explosions, and fear of.

Posted by: dmd3 | February 25, 2011 3:34 PM | Report abuse

I wouldn't worry about explosions under ordinary circumstances. The oven simply drives the temperature up to the point that caked-on gunk will combust efficiently -- that is the entire purpose of that operating mode, so it will be doing exactly what it is designed to do.

Although for the future, you might want to try the system in which you put some aluminum foil in the bottom of the oven to catch the drips, enabling you to clean most of the gunk from the oven by simply removing the foil. Aluminum foil, by the way, does NOT burn at self-cleaning oven temperatures.

Posted by: ScienceTim | February 25, 2011 3:47 PM | Report abuse

Our stove and oven uses natural gas. I happen to know the self-cleaning temperature is 700 degrees, and it takes an hour. As Tim says, that's enough to turn anything remotely organic to ash, so it'll do the job. I would imagine electric ovens self-clean at about the same temperature. I think I would spread the meds out on a sheet (or a doubled sheet) of aluminum foil. And make sure not to leave the bottle in the oven.

In a more perfect world, one would hope there would be a way to donate various meds and OTC supplies to places such as senior citizen centers and nursing homes. It seems a shame to me to unnecessarily waste things, especially when there are poor people in need. But there's just too many complications and liability issues all over the place. The good news is one can donate glasses and hearing aids and old cell phones. So I suppose half a loaf is better than none.

Still, I'd rather have a somewhat more perfect world, all things considered.

Posted by: curmudgeon6 | February 25, 2011 3:50 PM | Report abuse

Imom, I cleaned mine last spring, after 6 years. Open the windows, have a fan directing outward, fine. Gas stove.

It was so easy I vowed to do it yearly, hopefully dispensing with the open windows and fan.

Posted by: -dbG- | February 25, 2011 3:57 PM | Report abuse

The main reason my (gas) oven needs cleaning is usually spill over from pie baking but roast beef and Yorkshire pudding can mess it up fairly well also.

Ginger cookies in the oven, will fax upon request. Also planning some anise biscotti, just because I feel like it.

Posted by: badsneakers | February 25, 2011 4:01 PM | Report abuse

I don't want to be all braggy or anything, but the sun is shining and it's 70 degrees in the Tidewater area. I'm off for the weekend, yea me, and there is a glass of chardonnay in my near future.

Loved dmd's chardonnay link, sounds like fun. My preferred label is Fess Parker, but it's a little steep so it's only for special. There is a bottle of Acacia in the fridge, which will do very nicely.

Backboodled and I burst out laughing at Ivansmom's original comment about what she's been calling the OK legislators. The Oedipal reference is clever, but the mental image of I'mom calling folks mother***** really cracked me up! If the shoe fits, wear it, I'd say.

Hope everyone is having a lovely Friday.

Posted by: Kim_1 | February 25, 2011 4:32 PM | Report abuse

I am about to read an article (maybe just skim) entitled "Space Science Informatics: A Canadian Approach."

What am I getting myself into, eh?

Posted by: ScienceTim | February 25, 2011 4:37 PM | Report abuse

Mudge, do you still need that finger? Find it here:

Posted by: orawh | February 25, 2011 4:41 PM | Report abuse

Here on the left coast this afternoon it's snowing with the sun shining. Below 2200 foot elevation everything is green. Above like a bath tub ring, everything is white.

Posted by: bh72 | February 25, 2011 4:43 PM | Report abuse

leftover meds. never heard of such a thing.

Posted by: omni3 | February 25, 2011 4:44 PM | Report abuse

left over meds. no, it can't be true....

As for the minor league shake offerings I'd go with "5. Mac 'n Cheese Burger Burrito" and "2. Chicks with Sticks" on the side.

Something seems really really wrong about the "8. Sonoran Dog", but I can't quite put my finger on it. help me...

Posted by: omni3 | February 25, 2011 4:51 PM | Report abuse

I went with the 'duck hog frog dog', omni.
The results from the vote showed 0% for my choice so I reckon I'll have to whip up one in my test kitchen.

Posted by: talitha1 | February 25, 2011 5:00 PM | Report abuse

*I* went for the chick sticks.

My oven is ten years old. I cleaned it for the second time just after new year's, and the Geekdottir hated the smell. It is something that should be done when one can open the windows.

Speaking of, I had the windows open this afternoon, it being 73. Lovely! It was nice to have a breeze when I cleaned the master bedroom by moving all the furniture and vacuuming and mopping with the Swiffer wetjet. That room needed the treatment, badly. I'll have to tell Mr. T so he can be impressed. Otherwise he'd never notice.

Posted by: slyness | February 25, 2011 5:08 PM | Report abuse

With the off and on snowing and sunshine, having an airedale and welsh terrier keeping the squirrels away from the bird seed requires frequent use of the swiffer wetjet.
Sun's gone and snowing heavy.

Posted by: bh72 | February 25, 2011 5:23 PM | Report abuse


Posted by: slyness | February 25, 2011 6:06 PM | Report abuse

Slyness, almost the first thing I did when "S" got home was show him the bathroom cabinet. Of course this was partly because I moved some things that he might need to find at some point.

Glad to see the Nigerians convicted but wonder if people will ever stop falling for these scams. 'If it sounds too good to be true, it probably is' shouldn't be that hard to learn.

We've decided to stop at LL Bean tomorrow to buy snow shoes. We may need them just to get to the nephew's house!

Posted by: badsneakers | February 25, 2011 6:48 PM | Report abuse

Drove through the citrus grove zone today and noticed that some growers have planted rows of eucalyptus trees, presumably to cut wind speeds, so as to hinder dispersal of spores of Terrible Citrus Diseases.

They must be growing at extreme speed.

Locally, azaleas, the "southern Indian" sort typical of the Deep South, are flowering happily.

Posted by: DaveoftheCoonties | February 25, 2011 7:04 PM | Report abuse

Snowshoes might be helpful for walking around the Everglades at low water. Hmm.

The Florida high speed rail project isn't entirely dead yet. I suspect that Republican state legislators are protective of their exclusive right under the Florida constitution and statutes, to make spending decisions. And the need for all state funds (including money from selling the governor's planes) to go through the Department of Financial Services, which is entirely independent of the Governor, with its own elected CEO.

So there's a whiff of lawsuits or even impeachment in the air if the Governor doesn't take the rail money, which is for a project already funded by the legislature.

Posted by: DaveoftheCoonties | February 25, 2011 7:33 PM | Report abuse

Hmmm. Florida high speed rail is dead after all. Remarkable how the Transportation Secretary and the Governor have utterly different versions of their meeting.

Then again, those Florida legislators just might sue next week.

Posted by: DaveoftheCoonties | February 25, 2011 8:25 PM | Report abuse

Cannot let bh72 hog all the glory for reporting on west coast conditions. Here on the central coast, we are now almost at the time where snow might really happen. Really.

Our TV weatherman is up on the crest of the Cuesta Grade (1,500ft) bringing us live reports from the side of the highway. So far the only precip is rain. I will relay his information to you as it occurs. Over! Out!

(We don't get much excitement here.)

Posted by: nellie4 | February 25, 2011 8:30 PM | Report abuse

Shaking in the Canterbury earthquake was perhaps the greatest on record, nearly 2G (twice gravity). That's about 4 times the shaking that was considered possible, even in a strong quake, only 20-odd years ago. Scary.,0,5776823.story

The California weather's creepy, too, in a different and non-serious way, except maybe for agriculture and people with tender palms in their yards.

Posted by: DaveoftheCoonties | February 25, 2011 8:39 PM | Report abuse

Thanks for that article, DotC. I've been wondering if the NZ buildings hadn't been built or retrofitted to earthquake resistant code, or what. Sounds like or what - stronger than thought to be possible shaking - yikes. Seattle has that sort of soil downtown and in some industrial areas that is prone to liquefaction. In fact, we're going to build a traffic tunnel in it. Hmmm. Think I will be just as glad to be out of a high rise building soon...

Nellie, it's your turn for weather excitement. We've had quite enough here. Still very cold, but we're supposed to have rain, wonderful rain, over the weekend, with colder than normal but not crazy cold temperatures. I have a eucalyptus tree which is not looking too happy. I bought it as a small start, and it grew very quickly to 6 or 7 feet high. I'm afraid it may be deader than a doornail now, but we'll see. My crocuses are still perky, but not sure they'll look so great in the morning.

Posted by: seasea1 | February 25, 2011 9:43 PM | Report abuse

Perky crocuses? I wonder if that's available as a Boodle handle.

Even though I do dread the pollen season, I would love to see a crocus soon. Followed by daffodils, tulips, lilacs, etc.

*achoo* *snorffle*

Posted by: ftb3 | February 25, 2011 10:01 PM | Report abuse

nellie, are you anywhere near Boulder Creek, outside Santa Cruz?

Posted by: talitha1 | February 25, 2011 10:06 PM | Report abuse

Our rain stopped late this afternoon after a total of 2.5 inches. However, we came home from dancing lessons in a driving snow. Only an inch or so, nothing dramatic. I too am ready for Spring, can't wait to start seeds.

Posted by: badsneakers | February 25, 2011 10:40 PM | Report abuse

No, Talitha, I'm in San Luis Obispo -- several hundred miles south of Santa Cruz.

Posted by: nellie4 | February 25, 2011 10:48 PM | Report abuse

Thanks, nellie. It's been a while since I've been in your area ... so beautiful.
(For some reason I was confusing Cuesta Grade with Cuesta Highway ... I think it's called ... in the Santa Cruz area.)

I see by the weather maps that snow is possible in both of those regions. Enjoy!

Posted by: talitha1 | February 25, 2011 11:05 PM | Report abuse

Perky Crocuses is too close to Perky Curmudges for my taste, but that call's up to the shop steward.

...Also, I've never been able to read "crocuses" without imagining crocus-y circuses, which is absurd and makes me crotchety.

Posted by: Wilbrod_Gnome | February 25, 2011 11:12 PM | Report abuse

See, when I see that word I interpret it as croquet, and then go into a weird Lewis Carroll thing. Feh!

Posted by: Yoki | February 25, 2011 11:32 PM | Report abuse

Good evening, all.

I do not know what to make of the fact that Kathleen Parker quit her gig while Kaddafi remains entrenched in his.

Kaddafi's troops are reported to be firing on his civillians.

Posted by: -bc- | February 25, 2011 11:35 PM | Report abuse

SCC: Meant to add to my 11:35:

I fervently hope that he'll realize that more ratcheting up of fear, death and destruction is pointless, I don't think he can realistically hope to stay in power.

And I don't think he will stay. But I doubt it'll be of his own accord.

Thinking of the people of Libya tonight.


Posted by: -bc- | February 25, 2011 11:52 PM | Report abuse

Oh yes, Yoki! These dang cascus crocus races then the lobster quadrille with croquettes....

Posted by: Wilbrod_Gnome | February 26, 2011 12:30 AM | Report abuse

Thanks, Wilbrod. I thought I was being stranger-than-usual (which takes some doing!). You saved me by understanding the funny thing language does to word-people.

Posted by: Yoki | February 26, 2011 12:33 AM | Report abuse

Any evening, flamingo.

Posted by: Wilbrod_Gnome | February 26, 2011 12:38 AM | Report abuse

Let's hedgehog before somebody shouts off with our heads.

I like crock for those little flowers, they often look like pretty pots in the snow-- and quite unlike scaly gentlemen that dance with hippos.

Yes, it's a wordplay attack going on....

Posted by: Wilbrod_Gnome | February 26, 2011 12:49 AM | Report abuse

Venturing into the cesspool of the comments connected to the report on the Virginia legislature's new 'social agenda' attempt at regulation of abortion clinics (you don't want to know) ..... I came upon a wingnut's misadventures in spelling.

"... the callus liberals ..."

I composed a riposte to the effect that we
"callus liberals" has developed thick skin at various points where the constant friction of "callous conservatives" was irritating.

To post my riposte?
Aye, there's the rub.

Posted by: talitha1 | February 26, 2011 3:02 AM | Report abuse

scc: 'had' developed ...

Posted by: talitha1 | February 26, 2011 3:11 AM | Report abuse

a little Pat Metheny to background your morning cup of...

'As It Is'

Posted by: omni3 | February 26, 2011 5:21 AM | Report abuse

Yes indeed, let us all hope for a quick, peaceful end to the chaos that is today's Libya... *SIGH*

I do have to note, however, that the WaPo home page rotating photo switches from Libyan turmoil to Lady Gaga. Coincidence? I think not. :-)

And I believe we've come up with a new Mythbusters episode -- "What Will an Oven's Self-Clean Cycle Safely Dispose Of?"

*off-to-wake-the-chilluns-for-a-day-of-hopefully-epic-skiing-conditions Grover waves* :-)

Posted by: Scottynuke | February 26, 2011 5:52 AM | Report abuse

Good morning, all.

Just a thought about using aluminum foil in an oven on the clean cycle - aluminum foil can change shape and size as it gets really hot, and can become brittle after substantial heat cycles, too. Don't know if a self-cleaning oven at 700F is enough to do that (and certainly not enough to get it to burn, anyway).

AF is different from the aluminum used in industrial/engineering applications (aircraft, IC engines, etc.).

I'd simply say you may want to account for possible shape and size changes during the heating process, so it does not inadvertetnly dump the contents to the bottom of the oven...


Posted by: -bc- | February 26, 2011 8:33 AM | Report abuse

Good Morning Everyone.

While a 2-week extension of the government's continuing resolution looks likely, I'm still in a bit of a defensive crouch this morning.

I have a business trip planned that was very difficult to arrange, and missing it will cause me much grief. And it is scheduled for 22 March - 4 days after the end of this latest extension.

Posted by: RD_Padouk | February 26, 2011 9:24 AM | Report abuse

Yeouch, RD. I hope everything works out, but the stress in the meantime

Good thoughts and prayers to the people of Libya and other north African nations. The birth pangs of freedom are never easy or clean.

I'm back from the grocery store, and on the way home I noticed the earliest harbinger of spring: budding leaves on a weeping willow. The Bradford pears are budding, too. Now I hope we won't have a killing frost in the next six weeks or so.

Posted by: slyness | February 26, 2011 10:07 AM | Report abuse

Spring! My daffodil stalks are well up, with buds just starting. I've seen others blooming around town; I must have a slightly later-blooming variety. I find the process very exciting -- you know, how you put things in the ground in the fall, and flowers magically appear months later. I count the daffodil planting as the first real home improvement I've done for this house. I'll take some pictures when they bloom.

In related news, the dandelion wars have begun again. But I've got a jump on them this year. It's not quite time to reseed yet, but in a couple of weeks, I'll see what I can find to fill in the lawn. I'm thinking clover seed (grass purists, hide your eyes). And maybe some violets. Both grow there already, and they're much happier than the grass. Oh, to have things growing that want to be there! And that aren't ugly!

Posted by: -bia- | February 26, 2011 10:28 AM | Report abuse

Seismic risk maps for Portland (made about 15 years ago) show the fashionable Pearl District as hazardous. Upscale old Eastmoreland is on what seem to be landslide deposits, which will move again. The Japanese Garden's on a small landslide deposit of its own.

The Canterbury quake is especially creepy in that its worst shaking was precisely in downtown Canterbury and the port. It's as if the small-diameter hurricane Andrew had hit Miami Beach rather than 25 miles to the south.

A third (BBC) or two thirds (NZ Herald) of downtown Christchurch may have to be demolished. Looks like the city may end up with shopping malls and office parks, and an empty center. On a small scale, that happened to Santa Cruz, Calif. after the 1989 quake. Earlier on, Managua, Nicaragua.

New Zealand has put a lot of effort into insuring itself, as a nation, against natural disaster. Even so, it's a small country. Even if reconstruction is financed, there will be problems finding workers and material. They'll be competing for the latter against Queensland, Australia, which has vast reconstruction needs after floods and cyclones.

Looking at this, I realize that the inevitable next city-busting hurricane will overwhelm Florida. Insurance arrangements are inadequate, and there's some evidence that the state's being gamed by insurers in the way that the mortgage market was gamed a few years ago.

Posted by: DaveoftheCoonties | February 26, 2011 10:54 AM | Report abuse

Locally, dandelions seem restricted to only a few limited areas in town, but they seem to be prospering like never before.

White clover grows happily in lawns even this far south. A creeping "peanut" is now being sold as a grass substitute. It seems a peanut lawn can last longer, and requires far less water or fertilizer, than grass. On the other hand, how do you control weeds in peanut?

Posted by: DaveoftheCoonties | February 26, 2011 10:58 AM | Report abuse

A glory-est sunny morning on the northish left coast but cold. 18 degrees. The snow stopped at sunset and now is a frozen sheet. Did the snow make to SLO, Nellie?

Posted by: bh72 | February 26, 2011 11:15 AM | Report abuse

Do you have to mow the peanut lawn?

Posted by: bh72 | February 26, 2011 11:26 AM | Report abuse

No, bh, it is cold but sunny, with no rain or snow in sight. I heard it raining around midnight, but was too warm and comfortable to really wake up and pay attention to it.

Posted by: nellie4 | February 26, 2011 11:54 AM | Report abuse

Hellloooo, is anybody home?

Hm. I guess everyone is out enjoying the weather, spring-like or not.

Guess I'll join them.

Posted by: slyness | February 26, 2011 12:59 PM | Report abuse

*rattle* *rattle* *rattle*

Posted by: ftb3 | February 26, 2011 3:32 PM | Report abuse

Those kids better get off Mr. Sorg's lawn.

The tea-party filled NH legislature is considering bills to restrict voting. There was a hearing today. Good article with great statements from Mr. Sorg.

Posted by: baldinho | February 26, 2011 3:47 PM | Report abuse


New home computer! Got an Intel Duo Core!! (*pretending I have any idea what that means*) I think it means it has two cores (the word "duo" was the tip-off). Which would be really cool for those for whom one core isn't enough. Although I suppose it could be some sort of schizophrenia thing, like multiple personalities. Or, who knows, maybe its like some sort of mutant Granny Smith apple, I dunno. Got three different hard drives with lebenty-twelve frigabytes of storage.

Okay, that's it. As you were.

Posted by: curmudgeon6 | February 26, 2011 4:14 PM | Report abuse

Congratulations, Mudge! Sometimes ya just gotta do what ya gotta do. Hope you'll enjoy it.

Posted by: slyness | February 26, 2011 4:36 PM | Report abuse

Just back from a reading-signing by Karen Russell, who read from her first novel, Swamplandia after being introduced with highest praise by Carl Hiaasen. He explained that he gets loads of pre-publication copies and samples them by opening the book to somewhere in the middle and reading a page or two. First pages are usually very good. They've been worked on and edited with great care. The middle's the hard part. With Swamplandia, Hiaasen couldn't stop at two or three pages. He had to read the whole thing.

Russell herself is an unassuming young urban South Floridian who talks just like a normal twenty-something. She's teaching at Bard College where, she says, the students have hormones, even in the New York cold.

I'm debating whether to get a fancy Apple "display" for my computer or a simpler and half-the-cost Acer high-definition monitor.

Posted by: DaveoftheCoonties | February 26, 2011 5:32 PM | Report abuse

Bia, I've got moss in my yard. Mostly moss, a little nut grass. It *is* nice and green now, poking through the snow. Have researched, and iron application is the way to kill it. Have purchased the iron granules, and the vicious-looking shredding-rake to cut up the moss once it dies. Have had these since last July. Still pondering.

Green is green, yanno?

Posted by: Wheezy11 | February 26, 2011 5:45 PM | Report abuse

I intended to tell TBG - I'm so sorry about your sister.

Re: the lawn - cutting up dead moss sounds hard. I'm lazy. Maybe I'll try the peanut stuff.

Posted by: Wheezy11 | February 26, 2011 5:51 PM | Report abuse

I bought Swamplandia as an audible book and the first two chapters were amazing. I need to find time to listen to more of it.

And I finished Anathem on the flight back from California. An amazing book and well worth all 1000 pages. Now I have to find myself a palate cleanser. A book like that makes your head explode.

I've been doing some reorganizing in my house and just filled a three shelf bookcase with some (most?) of the books I haven't read yet that had been scattered in several places. It's like having my very own bookstore only I already own everything.

Oddly, I have also been finding headphones everywhere. I must have run across nearly a dozen so far. The nice thing is that two have been iPod sets so I can quit using the knock-off pairs I have been wearing.

Posted by: yellojkt | February 26, 2011 6:54 PM | Report abuse

Now here's an interesting story:

Posted by: slyness | February 26, 2011 7:00 PM | Report abuse

slyness, I especially liked the part where Bachmann was described as Palin with a brain.

Posted by: MsJS | February 26, 2011 7:22 PM | Report abuse

Would that be an oxymoronic oxymoron, MsJS??? *L*

One day of skiing is done, and much fun was had. Conditions were near-epic -- heavy snow last night dried out nicely and was well-groomed, enough sun to enable good pictures, neither too warm nor too cold. Let's hope a frosting of additional snow tonight pushes tomorrow over the top!

*gladly-dealing-with-skiing-related-aches-and-pains Grover waves* :-)

Posted by: Scottynuke | February 26, 2011 7:49 PM | Report abuse

Hey, Dave, the Acer monitor on which I am reading right now is very nice, and inexpensive. However, I have an Apple monitor at work and I think it has better color response and certainly more dots-per-inch. However, so long as you keep track of that fact, you are probably okay. Both monitors use DVI (direct digital) plugs.

Posted by: ScienceTim | February 26, 2011 8:25 PM | Report abuse

Mudge, glad you have a new computer, I missed you here on weekends.

Got home from our day in Maine a while ago. They have tons of snow up there. "S"'s nephew lives on a farm and we went sledding in his 'back yard'. The snow was up to my waist in places. The nephew had shoveled a path down the hill (which took him two hours) as the snow was too deep for his snow blower. We had sledding tracks on either side of the path but between the dogs running all over and the stickiness of the snow, it took some work to get going downhill. We did make some successful runs tho' and during one of them the more mischievous dog jumped on my back and rode down the hill with me - funny once I got over the shock and realized who it was on my back.

On the way there we stopped at LL Bean and I bought a new parka (on sale!). I can't believe I'd never been to their store in Freeport until today. Neat place, with everything you could want - except snow shoes, which were sold out. But it was a great trip, a fun birthday party for the three year old and nice to see lots of "S"'s relatives again. They mostly live in MA, but we only see them in Maine - go figure.

I suspect I will be sore in the morning, but it was worth it.

Posted by: badsneakers | February 26, 2011 9:48 PM | Report abuse

Guess I'll pop in long enough to say nighty-night. Congrats on the new toy, Mudge. We bought a new laptop on sale at New Year's. Still haven't quite figured out what I need to do to get it hooked into WiFi. Also just got a real good deal on a 32" HDTV from Micro Center. A Toshiba for $299, marked down from $499. Had to run to the store in Vienna to get it, since the Rockville store (and hh gregg) had already sold out. This will replace our current Vizio, which will go to PA to replace the old analog clunker that's probably been there for 25 years.

Posted by: ebtnut | February 26, 2011 10:52 PM | Report abuse


With a Mac it definitely means you have eaten two apples. With anything else, dunno.

Or else it means you can run two programs/apps at the same time or something

(And Granny Smith is a good choice)

Posted by: omni3 | February 27, 2011 12:33 AM | Report abuse

ebt - there were a few words of baby speak we used - voom voom for the vacuum, nighty-night, that was about it. It's funny how an 18 year old and a 16 year old can make you feel guilty for old habits - I'm just waiting for two more years - they'll be gone and no longer able to make me feel guilty for using baby talk on them!

Posted by: Wheezy11 | February 27, 2011 12:47 AM | Report abuse

Thanks for that comment about Acer and Apple. I visited the Apple stores in Palm Beach County last week. Their "display" has a glossy surface that seems not to cause big reflection problems when dealing with white text on black background. Its rendition of text is amazing, and some Google Street View certainly looked noticeably better than on my existing monitor.

But I'm not sure that the Apple with its nearly 60% more pixels is really worth $500 more than an Acer that consumes a quarter as much electricity. Not to mention that I live on a budget.

I'm a lousy reader of fiction of any kind. I think part of it, at least lately, is that there's a movie class every week in the winter, assorted movie goodies at the local theater (the National Theatre's "Frankenstein" directed by Danny Boyle is coming up), and live theater, too (what should be a fairly ambitious "The Producers" next week).

I should have a photo album of the Everglades in a few days.

Posted by: DaveoftheCoonties | February 27, 2011 12:52 AM | Report abuse

You know what's wrong with Saturday night? THERE"S NOTHING ON TV!

I mean I could watch skiing, but that is eighty-seven percent talking heads blathering about skiing and twenty-one percent commercials and,,, oh forget it

Give me another beer and a big bang



Posted by: omni3 | February 27, 2011 1:19 AM | Report abuse

Silly omni, skiing is for doing!!! *L* And with a few more inches overnight, NukeSpawn and her friend and I should have another marvelous day on the slopes!! :-)

Unless one plans to watch HDTV on one's PC, overdosing on monitor pixels is generally unrewarding, IMHO.

And I fear this latest King-ly misadventure will not end well:

*trying-to-focus-on-the-upcoming-snow-based-enjoyment Grover waves* :-)

Posted by: Scottynuke | February 27, 2011 6:08 AM | Report abuse

God loves us so much more than we can imagine through Him that died for all, Jesus Christ.

Good morning, friends. I got a chance to see some of the pictures from the dedication service, and they weren't very good. I was only in one of them (thank God, and I am definitely a person that needs to stay away from a camera. I couldn't look at it for long, it made me want to cry.

Everybody is back at home, and I'm in the process of getting ready for Sunday school and morning worship services. I hope you'll join me.

Slyness, that was one tough gig. Let me tell you, keeping an almost three month old baby is a lot of work, throwing the g-girl in keeps it more than interesting, to say the least. I hurt in places I did not know I had, or thought such places could not hurt. I am happy I was able to do it. God is good.

Have a just perfect Sunday, folks, and love to all.

Posted by: cmyth4u | February 27, 2011 7:00 AM | Report abuse

Saturday is for catching up on the DVR. My wife and I watched a mini-Modern Family marathon. We hurt ourselves laughing at the episode where the three kids walk in on their parents doing 'it.'

The earthquake episode with Nathan Lane guest starring was also hilarious.

Tonight our favorite faux-Chinese chain is offering 20% discounts on Oscar Night Take-Out, so we have ours scheduled for pick-up at 6:20 so we don't miss any of the red carp(et)ing.

Now it is off to a Pancake Breakfast Ride. I've never been on one before but it promises to be a net caloric break-even at best.

Posted by: yellojkt | February 27, 2011 7:11 AM | Report abuse

Even in the most remote part of the world, people many times, judge a person by their appearance. We see first. And I'm not saying this is the correct way to do this, just basically stating a fact. If one is attractive, people tend to treat attractive people well. If one is not so attractive, ugly is another word that can be used here, there's usually feelings of pity or downright hate. I'm sure a person such as myself would probably prefer the pity feeling but that's so sad.

Of course, I'm not ruling out personality because that's really the heart of any relation between the human race. But just thinking, before one gets a chance to open his or her mouth, a decision has be made based simply on looks. And I think I lose big time in that scenario. This is not a pity party, no, just a statement of fact because if one gets to the point of talking with me, the pity will go away fast, and more than likely feelings of wanting to throttle me will replace that pity. And that's okay too.

Why ok? Because it's sincere, and maybe we can work it out. The pity may be sincere too, and we can all use a little pity sometimes in this world where so much is based on how people look. With all the trials and tribulations that life offers on a daily basis, I'm always begging God for pity.

Just talking this morning, and what a subject! Most of you here have seen me in the flesh, so this conversation is not too odd. I haven't had coffee yet, so it may be a tad over the line.

Yet when all is said and done, what will be remembered most of all from all of us is how well we loved. Love, so hard, but what's called for, regardless of the wrapping.

Love to all.

Posted by: cmyth4u | February 27, 2011 7:20 AM | Report abuse

Good morning, all. This is just a drive-by hello, as I'm leaving shortly to go pick up a dear person to go to church with me. He was our associate pastor for many years, a wonderful person, now in assisted living about half a mile from here.

Cassandra, regardless of what we look like, love shines through the face and makes it beautiful.

Posted by: slyness | February 27, 2011 8:46 AM | Report abuse

Casssandra.. It's not always looks that you "see" first...

My daughter now has imaginary friends of her own. (How can I, of all people, tell her she can't have Internet friends? HA!)

It's different from the Boodle in that they don't really "converse" with each other the way we do. They follow each others' blogs and make comments, but not so much direct interaction.

She's never met most of them and many of them she's never seen even pictures of. She has a "crush" on one boy in particular, based simply on the stuff he writes... what he thinks, the music and tv and movies he likes, the jokes he makes. It's uncanny how similar they are.

She told me that at this point, it wouldn't matter what he looks like (it's highly unlikely they'll ever meet in person), she's pretty smitten by his personality, sensibilities and intellect.

Posted by: -TBG- | February 27, 2011 9:48 AM | Report abuse

Go Japanese and cultivate the moss. Tweeze out those nutgrasses and whatever.

Michael Dirda on Anathem:

Posted by: DaveoftheCoonties | February 27, 2011 11:14 AM | Report abuse

What do ya say, Joel? What's on your mind? How about a piece on cookin' while drunk?

Posted by: Jumper1 | February 27, 2011 12:12 PM | Report abuse

That could be very illuminating, Jumper.
As long as it's not when the oven is on the
self-cleaning setting.

Posted by: talitha1 | February 27, 2011 12:24 PM | Report abuse

There actually was snow in the north county yesterday, if anyone is keeping a spreadsheet on weather statistics in coastal California. And although the predicted low for last night was above freezing, when I got up with the dog at 5:30 this morning, it was 29 on my patio. Bye bye, begonias. Farewell, ferns!

Posted by: nellie4 | February 27, 2011 12:25 PM | Report abuse

Cooking drunk! No palette, cuts, burns, inferior product. What more is there to say?

Posted by: Yoki | February 27, 2011 12:26 PM | Report abuse

slyness, the thing that jumped out at me from that article was "where they ate barbecued pork sandwiches from Bats BBQ - "You'll love the way we rub your butt."

Reminds me of an advertisement on the G's refrigerator door.

Here's hoping Athena does as well with her imaginary friends as we have with TBG.

Posted by: -dbG- | February 27, 2011 12:27 PM | Report abuse

Meanwhile on the other side of the globe England and India played an epic cricket match that ended in a 338 all tie. England needed 2 runs off the last ball to win and could only get 1. My heart almost popped and I was only following a live blog while housecleaning. I had planned a semi-serious effort but got carried away, and now you can eat off the floors. Even the corners.

Posted by: DNA_Girl | February 27, 2011 12:56 PM | Report abuse

BBC has a great photo of an Indian fan:

Posted by: DNA_Girl | February 27, 2011 12:59 PM | Report abuse

hmmm, maybe I need to tune in to cricket when cleaning.

I'll be at a real life Oscar party this evening, but look forward to the comments here. We'll be having fondue (cheese and chocolate) and champagne. So decadent.

Posted by: seasea1 | February 27, 2011 1:05 PM | Report abuse

Cassandra, I've met you, and I think you're very attractive. Your hair style allows your eyes and smile to dominate your face, and you've got killer legs. T2, who I (of course) think is gorgeous, doesn't get asked out on dates. No one asks out the pretty girl, and adding her IQ to the mix makes it even worse. Hopefully that will change as she enters the workforce (yes, I've warned her at length about the scruples of lobbyists, but she thinks that's just my perspective). Don't go thinking pretty people have it made in the shade. It's not universally true.

Different subject...anyone notice that while people and goods are moving in droves out of areas of strife in the Middle East, the open borders make it all too easy to move all sorts of stuff in? Tunisia and Libya are great launching pads for those with a beef against Europe.

Have a happy day all.

Posted by: LostInThought | February 27, 2011 1:29 PM | Report abuse

Cassandra: there is no ugliness in you, inside and out, except in what life has smacked you with now and then.

That said, people do judge based on appearance a lot-- and size matters as much or more than actual facial looks, I sometimes think. We all have to find ways to let our personality shine through how we look, and that goes to body language, hair, expression, voice, and clothes.

As for people wanting to throttle you-- I'm in a situation like that now because I had to stand up for not being ignored altogether and my rights trodden upon. But I kept second-guessing how I was doing it.

A friend cheered me up by saying "nobody's perfect. The only perfect man in the world was crucified."

And I said, "and he had a lot of people pissed off at him, too!" Finally, I could laugh about it. Which always helps me find perspective.

Posted by: Wilbrod_Gnome | February 27, 2011 2:11 PM | Report abuse

LiT, creepy thought, but true.

Posted by: Wilbrod_Gnome | February 27, 2011 2:17 PM | Report abuse

Good afternoon, all.

I'm hoping that I have solved the puzzle of why I have been feeling incredibly out of sorts over the past couple of weeks (tired, distracted, a bit moody, a bit sad (totally not me) and generally weird). It may well be (and I most *certainly* hope so) that my thyroid medicine needs adjusting upwards again (alas, it never goes downward).

I was getting a bit scared that my mother's Alzheimer's was creeping up on her offspring entirely too early (early onset Alzheimer's is genetic; my mom's wasn't). So, I'll call the doctor tomorrow to get a time for them to do their Dracula thing. Like I said, I *really* *really* *really* hope it's my thyroid.

Cassandra, you're a knockout. Really and truly, you are. Plus, you have the biggest and warmest heart on the planet.

I will not be able to boodle live this evening, as I would have be running back and forth from one end of my apartment to the other. So, I'll just read the Boodle tomorrow and see what you all thought.

Enjoy the skiing, Snukie.

Posted by: ftb3 | February 27, 2011 2:20 PM | Report abuse

SCC: have *to* be, etc., etc.

Posted by: ftb3 | February 27, 2011 2:25 PM | Report abuse

On my vacation this summer, we had a lot of Christopher Moore fans and this quote became our group catch phrase:

"Nobody's perfect. Well, there was this one guy, but we killed him...."
— Christopher Moore (Lamb: The Gospel According to Biff, Christ's Childhood Pal)

Posted by: yellojkt | February 27, 2011 2:32 PM | Report abuse

Cassandra, I have met quite a few people who were attractive until they opened their mouths and spoke. So in my estimation, a first impression can be very quickly changed from good to bad. Only very shallow people would base their opinion of someone purely on looks. That said, having met you I can state that you radiate love before you ever open your mouth and when you speak, you confirm that impression.

Posted by: badsneakers | February 27, 2011 2:46 PM | Report abuse

I agree with everything said about your beauty Cassandra. You are a truly lovely person.

and here is my newest love...

Adele Laurie Blue Adkins

Rolling in the Deep

Lyrics here:

Posted by: omni3 | February 27, 2011 3:25 PM | Report abuse

Hey--It's almost Oscar night! My husband and I are checked in to a local resort for a little weekend getaway, so I get to watch the Awards live for the first time in many years. I'll be checking the boodle during commercials; otherwise I'll be glued to the screen.

Posted by: kbertocci | February 27, 2011 3:29 PM | Report abuse

Would love to have you join the live blog. With streaming internet, etc. a lot of people have pulled the cable. I'm not that daring yet, but someday...

Posted by: yellojkt | February 27, 2011 3:44 PM | Report abuse

A copy of 'While Mortals Sleep' just became available at the library. Am excited.

Posted by: omni3 | February 27, 2011 3:46 PM | Report abuse

The household has a problem with the living room being kind of a dead zone. Not even the TV gets much use. The computer monitor gets pressed into service for watching movies. The existing one has a major flaw--it dates to the Bad Old Days when cheap LCD screens leaked a lot of light, so areas of the screen that should be dark are kind of a dawn-fog grey. That can ruin a dark movie like "In Bruges".

One of the wonders of 2011 is that 27" 1080p monitors (1940 x 1080 pixels) with energy-saving LED lighting have become reasonably cheap, if you can call $300 and upward cheap.

Mighty monitors like Apple's 27" "display" stuff about 60% more pixels (2560 x 1440) into roughly the same-size screen. So they make text and large photographs look wonderful. But a Blu-Ray movie can't use those extra pixels. And they cost as much as three times what that "ordinary" 1080p does.

For someone who's going to work with high-quality images, the Apple would seem a near necessity. For the rest of us, not so much.

Anyhow, a living room revitalization plan is emerging, via Ikea. I don't trust anyone else to sell cheap furniture that's worth owning.

Posted by: DaveoftheCoonties | February 27, 2011 4:23 PM | Report abuse

About six months ago, I paid less than $300 for a 27" Samsung HDTV which doubles as a computer monitor. I don't like the sharpness at 1920 x 1080 so I run it at 1680 x 1050 instead which stretches the screen just a bit. For picture editing I will move the Photoshop window to my older 20" monitor which runs at 1280 x 1050. Over the Christmas break my son recalibrated the screen overlap so that the upper left of the big monitor is the lower right of the smaller monitor. This way I have one big screen in a stretched checkerboard configuration. A FB friend of mine has four monitors hung on his wall so he has one super high resolution mega monitor.

The new monitor, since it is a full TV, is also hooked up to a standard def cable box (I can't justify the extra charge of a true HD convertor for it) so I can do things like watch Top Chef on the TV and liveblog on the older monitor.

But I don't do that much because it's a bit of a hassle to switch the signal back and forth. So for boodle liveblogging and the like, I just lay in bed and surf from my netbook while watching the bedroom TV. My wife is usually next to me playing on her iPad.

If we are downstairs where the big TV is, we'll both be on our respective MacBooks unless I am using my MacBook to stream Hulu or something (fairly rare, but it happens) in which case I will have to resort to surfing on the G4 12" PowerBook, but it is pretty creaky and can't even stream YouTube with any quality.

We have serious extension cord issues in our house. Every convenient plug has at least one squid power strip so we can drag our mobile devices around with us.

Posted by: yellojkt | February 27, 2011 4:55 PM | Report abuse

Hard to believe the Oscar's will be any better than the commercial, but I think they've got the right hosts.

Posted by: -dbG- | February 27, 2011 5:07 PM | Report abuse

A cool band from Minnesota:

I think all the guys in the band are old enough to be Justin Beiber's dad.

Posted by: yellojkt | February 27, 2011 5:17 PM | Report abuse

Their 'hit' song, 'Middle Aged Man':

Posted by: yellojkt | February 27, 2011 5:19 PM | Report abuse

There's bargains to be had on fluorescent-lighted 1080p televisions. So much so that Consumer Reports has noted something like 30% price drops since the holidays. And prices back then were low!

Posted by: DaveoftheCoonties | February 27, 2011 5:28 PM | Report abuse

Cassandra, I have no idea what you look like nor do I care. What I do know is that you have a beautiful soul. If you remember, when I first posted on the Boodle a while back, after having lurked for a while and then not even that, one of my first questions was "Is Cassandra still around?" You stood out in my mind among the boodlers. God bless you.


Posted by: orawh | February 27, 2011 5:51 PM | Report abuse

Howdy y'all. Sometimes recovering from a lazy day is as time-consuming as recovering from a busy day. Yesterday was all errands and chores. Today, before and after church, it was a struggle just to move around. I blame allergies. And inertia.

Yellojkt, in January I enjoyed picking novels from our library-at-home. I have plenty to keep me occupied already, but alas. This week Borders started a going-out-of-business sale, and our Friends of the Library held its annual Giant Book Sale in a big building at the fairgrounds. There simply is no better deal. I don't even bother with the big General room anymore (hardbacks 75 cents or a dollar, paperbacks fifty cents). I just go straight to Collector's Choice, where the books average about a dollar fifty. I paid a whole six dollars for a textbook/treatise on Navajo religion. These days, I hit the Oklahoma/Native American/Western history tables pretty hard and leave the rest to chance.

At Borders I discovered a new-to-me author, Michael Gruber. He has one series, apparently, set in Miami, but lots of other novels too. They are the kind of mystery that crosses into literature, and mixes supernatural or other-world settings with this one. The book I read this weekend, "Tropic of Night", was well-written and great fun.

Posted by: Ivansmom | February 27, 2011 6:19 PM | Report abuse

Costume Critique Colleague checking in: 8 PM, right? Am grading papers....and paging Talitha and also, get ready, tadah taday:


Posted by: CollegeQuaParkian1 | February 27, 2011 6:40 PM | Report abuse

I'mom, I read "The Good Son" last month and really liked it. Had to read it twice because I felt I missed so much the first time. Definitely worth it, had planned on looking up more of his work.

Posted by: -dbG- | February 27, 2011 6:46 PM | Report abuse

Hello boodle. Have been making a long slog of the last few days-5k race yesterday, 8k today, and visiting retirement homes for Ma Frost-in-law. The races were far easier. Financially and service-wise she's better off in California (assuming the state doesn't completely collapse), but the time has come that a continent is too far away- so the search is on.

Have warned Mr. F that we'll be joining imaginary friends for the Oscars, but truth be told I'll be snoring early. Later gators (if I can hang).

Posted by: frostbitten1 | February 27, 2011 6:51 PM | Report abuse

Costume Critique Colleague checking in: 8 PM, right? Am grading papers....and paging Talitha and also, get ready, tadah taday:


Posted by: CollegeQuaParkian1 | February 27, 2011 7:01 PM | Report abuse

Red carpet starts now (7 p.m.), CqP, and runs 90 minutes (it must be a VERY long carpet, what one might even call a "long-distance runner." A little floor-covering humor, that.) Then the show at 8:30.

Posted by: curmudgeon6 | February 27, 2011 7:03 PM | Report abuse

E! already has red carpet coverage. Scarlett Johannsen is getting a full stop motion dissection on just how see-thru her dress is.

Posted by: yellojkt | February 27, 2011 7:04 PM | Report abuse

I'm here, CqP ... Got back a little later than expected from a run into town to pick up my takeout dinner and some vino.

I'll be caught up with you all soon.

Posted by: talitha1 | February 27, 2011 7:18 PM | Report abuse

Melissa Leo is unrecognizable from her days on Homicide. Russell Brand was his usual cute self.

Posted by: frostbitten1 | February 27, 2011 7:18 PM | Report abuse

Russell Brand brought his mom; I think that is very cute. I like that he threw the question about hair and makeup over to her to give her time on camera. She is really a good sport.

Posted by: kbertocci | February 27, 2011 7:21 PM | Report abuse

My favorite PS22 hit

Posted by: frostbitten1 | February 27, 2011 7:21 PM | Report abuse

I'm looking forward to seeing that erotic tension between RB and Helen Mirren.

Posted by: frostbitten1 | February 27, 2011 7:22 PM | Report abuse

Thank you dear friends for the kind words. Enjoy the red carpet, and love to all.

Posted by: cmyth4u | February 27, 2011 7:27 PM | Report abuse

Love, love, Kate Blanchet's hair. That cut is perfect for her.

Posted by: frostbitten1 | February 27, 2011 7:28 PM | Report abuse

Love Kate Blanchett's dress ... EXCEPT the yellow beads sewn in at the neckline. They do nothing but distract from her beautiful natural coloring. The bodice is wonderful, though.

Posted by: talitha1 | February 27, 2011 7:30 PM | Report abuse

Agree with Talitha. That yellow beading was just off. Otherwise it was stunning.

Posted by: frostbitten1 | February 27, 2011 7:31 PM | Report abuse

scc-ing ahead of time on incorrect spellings of the stars' names tonight. ;)

Posted by: talitha1 | February 27, 2011 7:33 PM | Report abuse

Penelope Cruz is now hated by all mothers, past, present and future.

Posted by: yellojkt | February 27, 2011 7:34 PM | Report abuse

Judging by what I see on the red carpet I was quite "in" with my choice of a silver dress for the event I attended last night - now that has to be a first.

Posted by: dmd3 | February 27, 2011 7:34 PM | Report abuse

What I like most about Marissa Tomeí's 1950 dress is the lack of suspense about possible wardrobe malfunction. A reminder of how much more sensible fashion once was.

Posted by: kbertocci | February 27, 2011 7:34 PM | Report abuse

I guess the live-boodle will be more coherent once the show starts and we're all watching the same channel...

Posted by: kbertocci | February 27, 2011 7:36 PM | Report abuse

The contrast beading was well-placed and a great idea to accentuate the neckline. A pale sage or light teal would have been better, or even a slightly darker tone of the rest.

Posted by: talitha1 | February 27, 2011 7:38 PM | Report abuse

dmd ... stepping out! Did you have fun?

Posted by: talitha1 | February 27, 2011 7:40 PM | Report abuse

Reese Witherspoon is going to win Perkiest Presenter. Halle Berry and Hillary Swank are wearing the same dress. Gwyeneth Paltrow is in the running for Lowest Neckline.

Posted by: yellojkt | February 27, 2011 7:42 PM | Report abuse

Yes it was lovely, my kind of event, one of the main sponsors was the chocolate company in town, all the free chocolate and candy you could want and each dinner course incorporated chocolate. Might I say filet with chocolate reduction may now be my new favorite dish.

Posted by: dmd3 | February 27, 2011 7:43 PM | Report abuse

'Archival gowns' ... now I know what to call that closet full of 1920-40s vintage dresses I own. The Talitha Archives.

Posted by: talitha1 | February 27, 2011 7:45 PM | Report abuse

What channel are y'all watching that had Halle and Reece?

Posted by: talitha1 | February 27, 2011 7:47 PM | Report abuse has all kinds of live stuff

Posted by: frostbitten1 | February 27, 2011 7:48 PM | Report abuse

I spent the last few hours of daylight up on a ladder, cleaning my gutter. Now, that's true fun.

While up there, I happen to have caught a basketball game between the young man next door (age 7, let us call him 'K'), and his friend F. The lack of a regulation goal -- known in the vulgate as a 'basket' -- nor, indeed, the presence of any goal, might have deterred lesser athletes, but not these two spirited competitors. They improvised a goal from a heap of fallen branches and twigs and began their game. Play progressed to ever-greater feats of skill and extraordinary scoring until, at last, one of them used the rarely-mentioned, and even more rarely accomplished, 75-point shot. After that, the pace really picked up, neither athlete willing to give an inch to the other, two fierce competitors locked in battle. In the end, it was all but inevitable that one would deploy the devastating Butt Cannon.

I know it's in your mind to ask, "Who won?" I can tell you only what I think, in your heart, you know already: once the Butt Cannon comes out, nobody wins.

Posted by: ScienceTim | February 27, 2011 7:49 PM | Report abuse


Yello, those dress are not the same, one nude in colour one silver, one ruffled one feather.

Helen Mirren once again looks absolutely amazing.

Posted by: dmd3 | February 27, 2011 7:49 PM | Report abuse

E! is upstream of ABC's cameras but it goes dark at 8, then it's over to ABC to see all the same dresses all over again.

Posted by: yellojkt | February 27, 2011 7:51 PM | Report abuse

SciTim-laughing so hard I can't breathe. Thanks.

Posted by: frostbitten1 | February 27, 2011 7:52 PM | Report abuse

Reese looks like she's going to do a remake of Tammy.

Posted by: frostbitten1 | February 27, 2011 7:53 PM | Report abuse

Natalie Portman looks so wholesome and lovely. Plum or aubergine, CqP?

Posted by: talitha1 | February 27, 2011 8:04 PM | Report abuse

Think more plum talitha, just switched over to an HD channel and the dress seemed much more purple. Also noted the "Red" carpet is more fushia than red.

Posted by: dmd3 | February 27, 2011 8:07 PM | Report abuse

Natalie Portman is wearing vintage Blaze Starr tassels as earrings. James Franco makes me want to break out my Freaks and Geeks boxset. Some purple alligator gave its life to make Sandra Bullock's purse.

Posted by: yellojkt | February 27, 2011 8:07 PM | Report abuse

T -- think it more plummy but TV reception varies so much. Nice line for her. Did she have that baby yet?


Posted by: CollegeQuaParkian1 | February 27, 2011 8:09 PM | Report abuse

Natalie Portman's dress is my favorite so far, love the color.

Anne Hathaway has a huge mouth, never realized til tonight. Sandra Bullock looks good - maybe a bit tired - or maybe it's just watching in HD that makes everything look different?

Posted by: badsneakers | February 27, 2011 8:09 PM | Report abuse

Saw preview of Nicole Kidman's dress...get ready T, looks to be a bit unwieldy with folded white/blue tone the wedding dress for the formal ceremony but not the dancing....

Posted by: CollegeQuaParkian1 | February 27, 2011 8:11 PM | Report abuse

I read Natalie's dress as plumish, too.
And the 'red' carpet is definitely on the pink side.
Not fond of Nicole Kidman's Dior ... though the structure is interesting.

Posted by: talitha1 | February 27, 2011 8:14 PM | Report abuse

BSneaks, I thought the same thing and I do not have HD...if she is dying her hair, the shade is a bit severe even for a natural brunette...did the lipstick match dress? Not on the two channels I flipped between.

GPaltrow's dress is an industrial slot down the middle. AND, the industrial strength raccoon eyes are overdone...harsh. And, I guess the brown-smokey version of the character she played in the Royal Tennies...

Posted by: CollegeQuaParkian1 | February 27, 2011 8:15 PM | Report abuse

How can I put this nicely? Gwyneth looks like one of Charlie Sheen's 'girlfriends'.

Posted by: badsneakers | February 27, 2011 8:18 PM | Report abuse

T -- yes interesting structure but that is architecture not wearable art....and, think that Marissa T's classy dress with a fabulous bustlines is the best dress so far. CLASSIC and CLASSY

Posted by: CollegeQuaParkian1 | February 27, 2011 8:18 PM | Report abuse

Tim Gunn saying Scarlett Johannson has a 'beautiful silhouette' is my new favorite euphemism for 'smokin' hot bod'.

Posted by: yellojkt | February 27, 2011 8:18 PM | Report abuse

I don't like it when beautiful men (e.g. Christian Bale, Johnny Depp)make an effort to be less attractive by growing beards, getting tattoos, etc. I wish they would take a hint from George Clooney. And here comes Hugh Jackman, he's another one in the "classy" column. Sight unseen, I'm betting he will look good.

Posted by: kbertocci | February 27, 2011 8:18 PM | Report abuse

Paltrow reminded me of that old saying ...
"If she turns sideways and sticks out her tongue she'll looks like a zipper."

Posted by: talitha1 | February 27, 2011 8:19 PM | Report abuse

Look to me that the lipstick was pinker than the dress - not a fan of the pink lipsticks out right now - to much like bubble gum. Perhaps the little one tiring Sandra.

Is GPaltrow's dress gold or siler or both, can't decide if I like it, much better than Nicole Kidman's.

Posted by: dmd3 | February 27, 2011 8:21 PM | Report abuse

YK, I liked Scarlette's dress BUT, it or the heels made her walk just slightly awkward...something needs adjustment. But, yes, she is curvey and womanly and lovely in a wine lace.

Posted by: CollegeQuaParkian1 | February 27, 2011 8:22 PM | Report abuse

I guess I would lose that bet on a technicality--Hugh's doing the stubble thing...

Posted by: kbertocci | February 27, 2011 8:23 PM | Report abuse

I liked Tomei's dress a lot, too. Only thing off for me is the slightly high bodice ... like the straps were a little too short. But that's a very 50s-style cut for a sweetheart neckline.

Posted by: talitha1 | February 27, 2011 8:23 PM | Report abuse

kbertocci, I thought I'd mention that those beards you dislike are actually in style these days. I'd expect that style to be gone by the next General Election for President of the US.

Please note that Mr. Jackman is sporting one of those beards as well. The double-breasted jacket he's wearing is a nice surprise, too.


Posted by: -bc- | February 27, 2011 8:26 PM | Report abuse

Just saw Halle Berry's dress...the tulle needs to be, it looks like a dress taken from the NYC ballet and on it's way to making Helena Bonham Carter very very very other words, too tissue-torn post modern tawdry bustier-action

Posted by: CollegeQuaParkian1 | February 27, 2011 8:27 PM | Report abuse

Tim, that's hilarious! The tape of the game ran in my head as I read your description.

I'm enjoying your commentary. No red carpet for me, the TV is tuned to Carolina/Maryland. So far it's going well for Mr. T's team. (Sorry, CqP.)

TBG, Oscars or basketball? Or are you fortunate enough to have two sets?

Posted by: slyness | February 27, 2011 8:27 PM | Report abuse

Some high-production Oscar intro there, I must say!

Posted by: talitha1 | February 27, 2011 8:36 PM | Report abuse

I'm glad to see the voice is a consideration in the opening. I could have Morgan Freeman narrate my dreams any day...did I say that out loud?

Posted by: --dr-- | February 27, 2011 8:38 PM | Report abuse

I love Kirk Douglas.

Posted by: --dr-- | February 27, 2011 8:52 PM | Report abuse

This is almost as bad as wheeling out Omar Bradley.

Posted by: -TBG- | February 27, 2011 8:53 PM | Report abuse

Getting ready to see more of Helena B-C's garb...she looks lovely in the classic upper class wear of the day...that lovely grey lavender in the movie clip...

Posted by: CollegeQuaParkian1 | February 27, 2011 8:55 PM | Report abuse

I know TBG, but he is game to try it. A sentimental favourite.

Posted by: --dr-- | February 27, 2011 8:55 PM | Report abuse

The young woman who played Maddie in True Grit looks lovely ... especially the hairstyle. Miley Cyrus, take note and dress your age, kindly, if it's not too late.

Posted by: talitha1 | February 27, 2011 8:57 PM | Report abuse

GO MELLY LEO!!!!!And, I like the eyelet-silver dress a lot!!!!!

Posted by: CollegeQuaParkian1 | February 27, 2011 8:58 PM | Report abuse

T -- I agree.

Melly Leo's address better without the leg slit...but still, interesting and theatrical and wearable. And, different. GOOD.

Posted by: CollegeQuaParkian1 | February 27, 2011 8:59 PM | Report abuse

Well... we know it's time delayed.

Posted by: -TBG- | February 27, 2011 8:59 PM | Report abuse

Oops guess they aren't on a 7 second delay - too funny. May be my favorite Oscar moment to date.

Posted by: dmd3 | February 27, 2011 9:00 PM | Report abuse

Did you guys hear that oops?

Posted by: --dr-- | February 27, 2011 9:00 PM | Report abuse

The Kirk Douglas thing was half funny and half sad/embarrassing. Glad Leo won but her acceptance speeches are getting a bit tiresome.

Posted by: badsneakers | February 27, 2011 9:01 PM | Report abuse

Like the lavender on Mila K...but the bodice and waist is too Victoria Secret bodice from the know, the type that is worn for ten minutes...then discarded...

Posted by: CollegeQuaParkian1 | February 27, 2011 9:02 PM | Report abuse

'K, guys, you sucked me in. I never watch shows like this, and here I am, at least for a little while.

Posted by: -dbG- | February 27, 2011 9:02 PM | Report abuse

Yes indeed, Cq. M.Leo's dress is terrific and stands out from all the rest.

That lilac grey chiffon number is nice.
There's a lot of Grecian influence showing up in evening gowns these days. I like it for the most part.

Posted by: talitha1 | February 27, 2011 9:03 PM | Report abuse

As good as it is to see Ms. Leo win an Oscar, it's going to be tough to beat Kirk Douglas for 'feel-good' value.

OK, Ms. Leo's cursing during the acceptance speech helped close the gap.


Posted by: -bc- | February 27, 2011 9:03 PM | Report abuse

dBG!!!!!! Glad you are here.

Posted by: CollegeQuaParkian1 | February 27, 2011 9:03 PM | Report abuse

T -- I do like the Grecian move...but, too much, so far on the detailing...But, then, I am a less-is-more gal...besides, keep the dress a bit quiet because you might need to put the tiara on....PutTheTiaraOn (a boodle tradition and copyright pending action)

Posted by: CollegeQuaParkian1 | February 27, 2011 9:06 PM | Report abuse

I loved Toy Story 1,2, and 3.

Posted by: Windy3 | February 27, 2011 9:07 PM | Report abuse

I was doing dishes during the first few awards. Missed the excitement. I must say,the initial banter between anne hathaway and the james person was Dull. Very dull.

Nice dresses.

Posted by: Ivansmom | February 27, 2011 9:09 PM | Report abuse

Watching to see if the doublestick tape holds Mila Kunis's dress in place each time she bent over in laughter has been the most suspense so far.

Posted by: yellojkt | February 27, 2011 9:11 PM | Report abuse

I hear you, CqP. I'm a less-is-more dresser myself when it comes to my own wardrobe. Classic Greek often bared a breast, of course. That gives new meaning to keeping it simple.

What do you think of Hathaway's white chiffon with silver bead/sequin bustier?
It has a waist-slimming effect to be sure.

Posted by: talitha1 | February 27, 2011 9:16 PM | Report abuse

Couldn't tell whether that was her dress or a complementary tattoo. The male Ivansclan,watching more closely, assured me it was the dress.

Posted by: Ivansmom | February 27, 2011 9:17 PM | Report abuse

Thank you, CqP. Agree about the opening banter but I liked the dream.

I'm remembering why I don't watch these. Create an app where every nominee pre-gives their acceptance speech. The winner's speech shows up on your handheld or computer, the pageantry is preserved and everyone gets to go to bed early! :)

Posted by: -dbG- | February 27, 2011 9:18 PM | Report abuse

I guess an Oscar is some consolation for having Studio 60 On The Sunset Strip cancelled.

Posted by: yellojkt | February 27, 2011 9:19 PM | Report abuse

Yes, very slimming against the white chiffon "chiton" folds. Chiton is official name of the dress style; men wore togas or stolons, but ladies, well, 'twas all about the chiton.

A bit too much...but nice....take away 1/4 and leave some of the asymmetry and I like it...and the fit is good. I am all about the FIT.

Posted by: CollegeQuaParkian1 | February 27, 2011 9:22 PM | Report abuse

Helen Mirren's dress bodice has slipped? Lovely slate satin....T, are the sleeve caps a bit? Or, well, I think theatrical for the setting. The color is fab...

Posted by: CollegeQuaParkian1 | February 27, 2011 9:27 PM | Report abuse

Great anne Hathaway musical interlude. Very funny. James wharhaveyou nice in a dress, but banter dreadful. Maybe it is him.

Helen mirren brilliant. Russel brand okay too.

Posted by: Ivansmom | February 27, 2011 9:27 PM | Report abuse

I feel for Anne Hathaway and whats-his-name. I think their script was put together from pages torn from old TV Guides. It certainly wasn't written by a comedy writer.

Bring back almost any host from the past!

Posted by: nellie4 | February 27, 2011 9:30 PM | Report abuse

Love, love, love Helen Mirren's dress. Perfect for a woman of a certain age. Annette Benning should take lessons from her in what to wear.

Posted by: badsneakers | February 27, 2011 9:30 PM | Report abuse

Reese Witherspoon looks classy and sixties-tippish with the pony flip.

Posted by: CollegeQuaParkian1 | February 27, 2011 9:33 PM | Report abuse

Chiton ... yes. Also called a tunica, iircc. A sewn garment rather than simply draped and fastened at the shoulder.

I love Geoffrey Rush ... though I knew Bale would win tonight.

Posted by: talitha1 | February 27, 2011 9:33 PM | Report abuse

Christian Bale's beard is very a Jeremiah Johnson way...

Posted by: CollegeQuaParkian1 | February 27, 2011 9:34 PM | Report abuse

Mirren's shoulder caps were TOO, yes. Otherwise great ... she's worn that slate color before and it becomes her methinks.

Posted by: talitha1 | February 27, 2011 9:37 PM | Report abuse

yello--I loved Studio 60, just discovered it about 3 months ago, did the whole series in about two weeks.

CqP, sorry I can't agree. I have watched Jeremiah Johnson about 10 times. Robert Redford is another "beautiful man" and as JJ he is very attractive. I don't think CB's beard does anything for him at all. Hugh Jackman's stubble, on the other hand, I can live with. He's still very cute.

Posted by: kbertocci | February 27, 2011 9:41 PM | Report abuse

What Anne H. wore for the presentation was fun...not too frooffy-frotthy but fun. Silver threaded upon, shot silk T?...the weave made that fabric really lux....

Posted by: CollegeQuaParkian1 | February 27, 2011 9:41 PM | Report abuse

No one's mentioned the stage set tonight.
I like the bijou art deco arches ... creates a great depth field.

Posted by: talitha1 | February 27, 2011 9:43 PM | Report abuse

Anne Hathaway grey structural dress and hair great. NEXRAD year- her, no co-host.

Posted by: Ivansmom | February 27, 2011 9:45 PM | Report abuse

Yeah, I was thinking silver shot silk ... like a Thai silk with warp and weft creating a subtle shimmer. Hope she doesn't change again too quickly so I can get a better look at it.

She said earlier that Shirley Maclaine had advised her to change clothes often. Seems she took that to heart!

Posted by: talitha1 | February 27, 2011 9:47 PM | Report abuse

NEXRAD?next.. Darn autocorrect.

Trent reznor. Awesome.

Posted by: Ivansmom | February 27, 2011 9:50 PM | Report abuse

I'm with dbg. Acceptance speeches need an app.

I'm not sure I am going to make it much longer. There was a nice dinner with son3 and some wine. There was liquers. It may be time to stop soon and put this old girl to bed.

Posted by: --dr-- | February 27, 2011 9:53 PM | Report abuse

Glad Anne got to wear a tuxedo, too, and that James got equal rights.

Posted by: kbertocci | February 27, 2011 9:53 PM | Report abuse

The NYT has covered it already!

Watching all the unmoving foreheads is strange.

Posted by: -dbG- | February 27, 2011 9:55 PM | Report abuse

As is Cate B's dress. What was she thinking?

Posted by: -dbG- | February 27, 2011 9:56 PM | Report abuse

Oh my...Cate's dress is theatrical but well, not lovely....color is interesting and her hair is fab...the bubblies seem a bit like an amphibian growth pattern...thank god not in green. T, what is wrong and I missing something...

Posted by: CollegeQuaParkian1 | February 27, 2011 9:57 PM | Report abuse

On second viewing I think Hathaway's dress is embroidered/beaded in a sprigy pattern, maybe on net and underlined. Lovely cut ... my favorite dress so far.

Now I'm REALLY having second thoughts about K.Blanchet's dress. The square shoulder doesn't read well head on and the yellow beads still draw too much attention to themselves.

Posted by: talitha1 | February 27, 2011 9:58 PM | Report abuse

Ok, I thought I'd seen everything when I saw James Franco hosting part of the Oscars in drag, but Trent Reznor getting an Academy Award pretty much tops my "I'll be d@amned" list for tonight.

Oh, Rick Baker won again for makeup ("The Wolfman," my personal fave this year), though his long siver ponytail may deserve an award of it's own. Blanchett's "That's gross!" reaction (to the movie clips, not Baker's hair) did make me snort, though.


Posted by: -bc- | February 27, 2011 10:00 PM | Report abuse

You must have missed my weekly Studio 60 recaps back in the day. The show was killed before its time. As was Freaks and Geeks before that.

If anyone would have been entitled to drop and f-bomb during an acceptance speech, it would have been Trent Reznor.

Posted by: yellojkt | February 27, 2011 10:02 PM | Report abuse

I'm glad I'm not the only one who thinks Kate B's dress is just plain odd. I'm not thrilled by most of the dresses this year. Some are too plain, some are too fussy and some are just trying too hard.

Posted by: badsneakers | February 27, 2011 10:03 PM | Report abuse

I heart Randy Newman.

Posted by: kbertocci | February 27, 2011 10:04 PM | Report abuse

Bubblies IS a better description, Cq!
We're posting on top of each other, and I'm boodle-hogging ... sorry! I'll keep my mouf more shutter.

Where are Yoki and Mudge, etal?

Posted by: talitha1 | February 27, 2011 10:05 PM | Report abuse

"Alice". Excellent. That's a great movie, with great costumes. Of course, I am it's target audience.

Posted by: Ivansmom | February 27, 2011 10:05 PM | Report abuse

Bubblies IS a better description, Cq!
We're posting on top of each other, and I'm boodle-hogging ... sorry! I'll keep my mouf more shutter.

Where are Yoki and Mudge, etal?

Posted by: talitha1 | February 27, 2011 10:05 PM | Report abuse

I'm here, and watching. Just don't have anything to say. Prettty boring, IMHO. Wish everyone would stop referencing Mellie's F-word.

Posted by: curmudgeon6 | February 27, 2011 10:07 PM | Report abuse

yello, I guess you're right; I do remember your commenting that the shows you like most usually get cancelled but in my memory that was in reference to Arrested Development. I found watching Studio 60 to be a very intense experience, but then I couldn't think of anyone to recommend it to, so I guess I understand why it was cancelled.

Posted by: kbertocci | February 27, 2011 10:12 PM | Report abuse

Amy! You do not need the necklace on that galaxy star midnight blue dress!!!!!

Posted by: CollegeQuaParkian1 | February 27, 2011 10:12 PM | Report abuse

Amy Adams looks great.
(sorry about the double-post, just when I said I'd keep quiet)

Posted by: talitha1 | February 27, 2011 10:13 PM | Report abuse

rotfl, cqp! I liked A.Adams, what can I say?

Most unfortunate dress so far - the nice lady who won for Best Documentary.

Posted by: talitha1 | February 27, 2011 10:17 PM | Report abuse

Do they always do these time-wastey, non-entertaining bits like the musical one that just finished?

Posted by: -dbG- | February 27, 2011 10:19 PM | Report abuse

Just saw the Kiss of the Spider Woman dress sported by Annette B...well, my goodness. That is Kirsten's Dunst's movie....

Posted by: CollegeQuaParkian1 | February 27, 2011 10:21 PM | Report abuse

Does Oprah have to be 'everywhere'!!! She has her own cable channel now, isn't that enough for her?

BTW, this is one of the worst Oscar shows I remember wasting an evening watching.

Posted by: badsneakers | February 27, 2011 10:22 PM | Report abuse

I admit, I liked the auto-tune mashup. I think it should win.

Anne Hathaway is having so much fun. The james person, not so much.

Posted by: Ivansmom | February 27, 2011 10:22 PM | Report abuse

Audrey Marr's dress is fab.

Posted by: CollegeQuaParkian1 | February 27, 2011 10:23 PM | Report abuse

Eldest was freaking out during that last musical bit, she was a huge fan of the Harry Potter Musical (online) - so it would seem the show is aiming for its target audience.

Posted by: dmd3 | February 27, 2011 10:23 PM | Report abuse

My goodness, Oprah looks WIDE. I wonder why she took this gig.

And dbG, yes they do always have those bits, but they are supposed to be entertaining.

Posted by: nellie4 | February 27, 2011 10:24 PM | Report abuse

Oh, Banksy *didn't* win the best documentary Oscar, so I guess there's no danger of him spraypainting his acceptance speech onto Anne Hathaway's shimmery dress. Or James Franco's ego.


Posted by: -bc- | February 27, 2011 10:26 PM | Report abuse

My head hurts. Time for bed.

I hope you all win awards!

OMG. Billy Crystal looks like an alien. How much Botox does that take?

Posted by: -dbG- | February 27, 2011 10:27 PM | Report abuse

Or is it a face lift?

Posted by: -dbG- | February 27, 2011 10:28 PM | Report abuse

Jude Law.

goodnight, dbG.

Sneaks, maybe so ... especially since the consensus is that King's Peach will sweep.
That's why I like doing the fashion police beat.

Posted by: talitha1 | February 27, 2011 10:37 PM | Report abuse

Okay, Robert Downey Jr. and Jude Law just made me laugh for the first time all night. Of course I love RD, Jr. so I'm prejudiced.

Otherwise, the highlight of my night has been finding all the pistachio nut shells that I clumsily spilled earlier tonight. Those little suckers are hiding everywhere!

Posted by: badsneakers | February 27, 2011 10:37 PM | Report abuse

A redhead wearing orange. That is daring. You go girl, Florence.

Posted by: yellojkt | February 27, 2011 10:43 PM | Report abuse

If you have to raise the hem of your dress when walking across a level floor does that say something? It's happened quite a bit tonight.

Randy Newman ..... yea!

Posted by: talitha1 | February 27, 2011 10:48 PM | Report abuse

and that's why I love Randy Newman--because you can count on him to tell the truth, and do it in an entertaining way.

Posted by: kbertocci | February 27, 2011 10:49 PM | Report abuse

Only Newman would do such a spiel.

Carr and Scott and snacks at the NY Times during commercials are doing well. Mexican Coke!

Posted by: DaveoftheCoonties | February 27, 2011 10:52 PM | Report abuse

This makes me sad, love listen to him call Expos games when I was young,

Posted by: dmd3 | February 27, 2011 10:52 PM | Report abuse

Did I mention that I was really disappointed they didn't do a better "King's Speech" sendup at the beginning of the Oscars, substitutuing Ozzy Osbourne for Geoffrey Rush?

If they couldn't get Ozzy, Keith Richards might work, too.


Posted by: -bc- | February 27, 2011 11:00 PM | Report abuse

CqP ... think Bigalow is wearing Donna Karan?

Posted by: talitha1 | February 27, 2011 11:03 PM | Report abuse

T -- my thoughts, 'xactly.

Posted by: CollegeQuaParkian1 | February 27, 2011 11:05 PM | Report abuse

just occurred to me...eighty-three is a prime number

Posted by: omni3 | February 27, 2011 11:10 PM | Report abuse

Who was that redhead singing? Beautiful and lovely voice. I know the name but can't recall this moment...

Posted by: omni3 | February 27, 2011 11:14 PM | Report abuse

Natalie Portman needs to hire someone to walk behind her and keep whispering "Hold me like you did by the lake on Naboo." just to keep her humble.

Posted by: yellojkt | February 27, 2011 11:19 PM | Report abuse

Natalie! Yes, the earbobs are a bit much
but she looks perfectly beautiful in that dress.

btw, I am listening to some terrifically loud thunder outside. Are we having a seasonmash?

Posted by: talitha1 | February 27, 2011 11:20 PM | Report abuse

Well, I have to say I enjoyed the show--did anybody count how many times Anne H changed her clothes? Surely it was a record. Do we have to change back to E! and watch the after-parties now or can we go to sleep? Just kidding. I'm signing off. Nice to share the experience with y'all.

Posted by: kbertocci | February 27, 2011 11:48 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: talitha1 | February 27, 2011 11:48 PM | Report abuse

If my memory serves, Hathaway changed eight times (counting the tux), kbertocci.

Colin Firth's acceptance was loverly ... I kept wanting him to break into that dance he said he felt stirring in his chest.

g'night, y'all.

Posted by: talitha1 | February 27, 2011 11:54 PM | Report abuse

My Coke and Don Q is nearly gone, so it's time for bed. And if you watched the Best Picture montage, you just saved yourself ten bucks.

I'm disappointed by how predictable the awards were. At the beginning of the show I called that 'Inception' would win all the technical awards.

Posted by: yellojkt | February 27, 2011 11:54 PM | Report abuse

Here on the Achenblog I am one of the lesser chefs, but I still like to pass along good recipes when I run across them:

Be sure to read the comments.

Posted by: yellojkt | February 28, 2011 12:38 AM | Report abuse


Bro#2 reminded me of Wallace and Grommet and the Wererabbit today. Yay Bro#2!

Posted by: Yoki | February 28, 2011 12:53 AM | Report abuse

The Oscars are usually pretty boring, which is why it helps to have some wine and snacks and friends to carry on with. I thought Anne Hathaway did nicely as host - maybe James was nervous about being Best Actor. I had forgotten he was in Freaks and Geeks! He was quite good as Allen Ginsberg in Howl too.

Nice that Aaron Sorkin won for writing, and Trent Reznor for music. I was rooting for The Social Network a bit, but The King's Peach is so good. Thought most of the dresses were well done - except for Cate Blanchett's! She looked lovely otherwise, though. Lots of sparklies on the dresses this year.

Posted by: seasea1 | February 28, 2011 1:06 AM | Report abuse

Easily, I can tell that I am in the wrong world, here. You know that your life has changed and there may be 'no going back' when all this talk about movies fails to register at all on my interest meter. I guess that I have become consumed with work and making my sad and meager living.

Actually, not so sad... in many ways--too often small--there is a bit of reward that I cherish. Now, little successes are fun.

Posted by: russianthistle | February 28, 2011 6:43 AM | Report abuse

God loves us so much more than we can imagine through Him that died for all, Jesus Christ.

Good morning, friends. So the Oscars had no suprises? I loved the critique of the fashions by the boodlers here, got a good laugh this morning. I tried to watch, but as usual, it ended up watching me. Totally knocked out. CQP, they need you on the Red Carpet, you outshine all of the commentators!

A question this morning. Why is it when people have so much money, they lose touch with reality? It's almost like they live in the galaxy somewhere, yet still eating and going to the bathroom. Don't these activities kind of ground one? At the very least, these habits should speak to the fact that one is doing what everyone else is doing that belongs to the human race. If having oodles of money changed that fact, then perhaps one might have a box to stand on, but it doesn't change that.

Also read the Bill Gates' oped piece this morning concerning teachers. At first glance one would think he's all for teachers and the thankless, non-paying work they do, but after reading the article, one finds he speaks only of those teachers that fit a criteria that he and perhaps others subscribe to. A "good teacher" is a loaded pistol in some circles because with the kids teachers deal with now, whew! Some teachers I suspect feel like just walking in the classroom should garner them a certain amount of money. Don't get me wrong, I love kids, and enjoy working with them, and I'm an advocate for children always, yet understand it is work, good work, but work nonetheless. Seriously, we've never paid teachers enough money, so we get what we pay for.

I'm seriously thinking about going back to bed. I got a chance to see my favorite guy yesterday, and he was laying up in another woman's arms. Grinning and skinning, being his adorable self. My daughter said she rubbed pineapple across his mouth, and he was on it. She gave us an small skit of this "on it" and we fell out. I laughed so hard. He's a sweetheart, and spoiled rotten already. Not my fault.

Slyness, the weather person predicting we should look out for rough weather today. Yesterday it was just hot! I mean like summertime, no sleeves, definitely not sweater or coat weather. Sweating weather. By the end of the week, we'll need fur! I know the farmers aren't sleeping much these days. Bad crops and high fuel prices, will anyone be able to buy groceries?

Well, it is Monday, end of the weekend, beginning of the work week day. Try, try real hard to have a fabulous day, despite it being Monday, folks, and love to all.

Posted by: cmyth4u | February 28, 2011 7:07 AM | Report abuse

Good morning and happy Monday, everyone!

Cassandra, I hope you did go back to bed to rest some more, I'm sure you could use the repose.

Busy day ahead, starting with a visit to our accountant. Gotta love tax time, especially when I know we're going to owe. So be it, I will pay the price for living in this country.

Scotty, I hope you're enjoying your vacation in the snow. Mr. T and I walked in our shirtsleeves this morning, it was 61. I do hope we get some rain, but no damage, in thunderstorms this afternoon.

Posted by: slyness | February 28, 2011 8:07 AM | Report abuse

My morning-after comment: reviewing the live-blogging from last night, I vote for Omni's 11:10. Other discussion groups have fashion comments and snark but nobody else has all that and omni too.

Posted by: kbertocci | February 28, 2011 8:13 AM | Report abuse

I just listened to a book which was written from the POV of a teenager on The Spectrum. The chapter numbers were consecutive prime numbers rather than integers. I was on Chapter 5 before I figured it out. Part of the game then became guessing which chapter number came next. Speaking of books, here are my NaJuReMoNoMo reviews:

And omni, the redhead singing the Dido song (who wasn't at the awards) was Florence Welch of Florence and the Machine, whom I have linked to several times, but another one never hurts:

Posted by: yellojkt | February 28, 2011 8:35 AM | Report abuse

After the long comment, Slyness, "repose" is the word! Unfortunately, no bed for me.

Posted by: cmyth4u | February 28, 2011 8:35 AM | Report abuse

Ice skating in a neutron star:

Posted by: yellojkt | February 28, 2011 8:41 AM | Report abuse

Good Morning, y'all.

Windy, windy and more windy outside. After spending the best part of Saturday with the tree surgeon clearing limbs from the yard I'm hoping I'll not have a repeat performance anytime soon.

Yello's recipe link kept me amused as I sipped my tea this morning. My favorite comment: "... deliciously influential if you add a can of Qs. I did find that all who dined on this labor intensive dish exhibited especially good manners following the meal. (hint, if you can't find canned qs, just open a can of ps and turn those little guys around)"

Hold on to your hats this Monday and have a good one.

Posted by: talitha1 | February 28, 2011 9:00 AM | Report abuse

Anyone have a recommendation for someone who can do a little roofing repair? We lost some shingles in the last big windstorm. I went up on the roof yesterday and replaced two near the bottom edge, then verified that I lack the guts, skill, and appropriate safety equipment to get up near the ridge of our steeply-pitched roof to repair the other 4 or 5.

Posted by: ScienceTim | February 28, 2011 9:07 AM | Report abuse

How old are the shingles, Tim? (I'm thinking maybe the entire roof should be re-shingled.)

'Morning, Boodle.

Posted by: curmudgeon6 | February 28, 2011 9:29 AM | Report abuse

Interesting comments from the boodle on last night's Oscar festivities. I actually liked Cate Blanchett's dress (but you already know that I have zero fashion sense ...).

I also had no idea that Anne Hathaway could sing -- and that woman does have incredible singing chops! She also has a stunning figure (as do they all, alas). I loved the red dress on the red carpet (Versace?) and all the rest of them she wore (even the tux). I also liked Natalie Portman's dress -- the color suited her well, I thought.

Helena Bonham Carter never ceases to make me laugh at what she wears, and how she wears it. She is very much over-the-top. And I agree that Helen Mirren is always terrific.

Obviously, this is my knees talking, but stiletto heels is not my idea of comfort -- at all. But I guess ya gotta suffer for yer art.

I'll throw in some more comments later, perhaps.

Posted by: ftb3 | February 28, 2011 9:33 AM | Report abuse

ftb, Hathaway's red redcarpet dress was vintage Valentino ... and the designer escorted her. Talk about product placement.

I finally got a good look at Hillary Swank's Gucci feather-skirted gown ... I love it myself. It's in the Wapo's photo gallery.

Posted by: talitha1 | February 28, 2011 9:43 AM | Report abuse

Yello, spare some love for Ana Matronic....

Scissor Sisters did great on Letterman the other night:

Posted by: DNA_Girl | February 28, 2011 9:53 AM | Report abuse

talitha -- I *knew* it started with a "V".

Posted by: ftb3 | February 28, 2011 10:06 AM | Report abuse

I do like Scissor Sisters and have at least two of their albums, but I have a mild redhead phobia.

In high school one of the prettiest girls in school was a redhead who was also the longtime girlfriend of a casual friend who was very smart (we ended up going to GT together) and an excellent shadetree mechanic (he drove his homemade barely street legal dune buggy to and from school). Not a guy I would ever mess with.

The girl and I had Philosophy together and the hippie-dippie teacher kept making jokes about us having redheaded babies together. It made things very awkward even though both of us never did anything other than laugh it off.

So whenever I see an attractive redhead, I hear that teacher's taunts ringing in my ears. I'm scarred to this day. Besides everybody knows what terrible tempers gingers have.

Posted by: yellojkt | February 28, 2011 10:12 AM | Report abuse

Listening to radio news ...

The last American veteran of WWl has died at the age of 110. I missed his first name but his last name was Buckles and he lived in West Virginia. Apparently he lied about his age to enlist. I'll be interested in reading more when details are in print. He's to be buried at Arlington.

RIP, Mr. B.

Posted by: talitha1 | February 28, 2011 10:25 AM | Report abuse

Mudge, I agree that it looks like time for the roof to be replaced. I see at least one complete layer of shingles under the ones that departed, and there may be another layer below that. However, my current financial circumstances do not permit something so extravagant as replacing the roofing. I need to struggle along with patching what we have for now.

The only alternative I can think of is to attach lines to one side of the house and throw them over the roof to use as safety lines while doing the work myself. It looks like a big enough operation that I'd rather not try to do it myself and maybe slide off the roof and hang myself by accident.

Posted by: ScienceTim | February 28, 2011 10:33 AM | Report abuse

Ah, found the story on Mr. Buckles.

Posted by: talitha1 | February 28, 2011 10:38 AM | Report abuse

I've shingled/reshingled three roofs in my time, Tim. It's not all that difficult--but I can tell you for a fact it ain't a one-man job. You'd need two or three up there, at least. And since you've already got two layers, you can't apply a third; you've got to strip off the first two entirely and start over from bare plywood. Which at least gives you a chance to inspect the plywood to see if that needs replacing, too.

Do you know how many square feet your roof is? Is the pitch steep? (I'm guessing it is, or you wouldn't need safety ropes. In this region most development houses have shallow enough itch you can walk on them okay.)

But yeah, yer looking at a couple thou minimum. Time for a home equity loan, mebbe, or even re-finance and build the cost of the new roof into the re-fi. At least rates are still good.

Posted by: curmudgeon6 | February 28, 2011 11:01 AM | Report abuse

For those of us local to DC area, there's a tornado watch until 4:00 pm.

Otherwise, I need a new kitchen faucet system. Looks like I'll be at Home Depot this weekend. *sigh* These things don't last as long as they used to.

Kinda like us.

Posted by: ftb3 | February 28, 2011 11:04 AM | Report abuse

Tim, check out climbing gear at someplace like REI. You can get a safety harness for $50 or less and good rope is less than $1 a foot. A climber could figure exactly what you need to be completely safe on your roof. I'd guess the cost at well under $200. Just be sure to anchor to something really really really secure, like a vehicle or a chimney. This is what roofers and tree guys use.

Posted by: kguy1 | February 28, 2011 11:10 AM | Report abuse

The sky does indeed look a bit churlish outside my window. Don't think I'm gonna make it out today to do those pesky errands (that should have been done over the weekend).

Stay safe, people.

Posted by: ftb3 | February 28, 2011 11:14 AM | Report abuse

Severe thunder and lightening with heavy rain here in the valley ... have had one brief power outage and the tv satellite reception is still out. Y'all be careful up there in the DC area.

Posted by: talitha1 | February 28, 2011 11:21 AM | Report abuse

Good morning, y'all.

Caregiver was waaay late this am, so I'm off to a late start to the day.

Reasonably seasonal here in TWC today. And we have politics as usual going on as well, with one of Mayor-elect Emanuel's newly appointed transition team having to resign on ethics grounds.

Niece#2 should be posting photos from the goings on in Madison, WI later today. I'll share the best with the boodle. For a journalism major, the standoff is like being a kid in a candy store.

Was there some sort of glam awards show last night? Missed it entirely.

Posted by: MsJS | February 28, 2011 11:34 AM | Report abuse

Three of my neighbors just had their roof replaced. I assume they got some sort of package deal since they were all done at once. Not that they bothered to check if I wanted in on it. I probably wouldn't have anyways since I have a bit of "if it ain't broke, don't fix it" philosophy, which obviously doesn't apply to SciCasa at the moment.

The roofer has left a flyer taped to the neighborhood mailbox so I will try to remember to get the company and number.

In the field of home maintenance, particularly when dealing with envelope or life safety, knowing your limits is key. Amateur roofing is not a task to be taken lightly in a neighborhood with tough community guidelines.

As a clumsy person, I can count on one hand the number of times I have been on a roof, with the subtotal for the current roof being 'never'. It doesn't help that I live in a three level townhome with no deck. The only way to get to my roof is to place a 25 foot ladder on a neighbor's deck and John Robie across their roof.

But it's about time the SciKids learned some skills that will motivate them to never need in the future, so I say get a pallet of 25 year fiberglass shingles, an extra tall ladder, some lacrosse helmets, a couple of nail guns and let them loose on Spring Break. If they finish early perhaps they can retar the driveway.

This weekend I was very proud of myself for replacing a light switch with a switch with a dimmer. This was for a fixture which I had upgraded a few years ago. Pacing is key, as I have had this switch on hand for several months but since I was getting rid of the bookcase it had been resting on, it was easier to install it than move it somewhere else.

Speaking of which, I took two entire SUV loads of furniture, old winter clothes, and obsolete electronics to Goodwill over the weekend and the house looks more cluttered rather than less.

This did free up an entire closet in which to hide my son's collection of several hundred fantasy and science fiction paperbacks. The apple doesn't fall far from the tree.

Posted by: yellojkt | February 28, 2011 11:48 AM | Report abuse

I can never figure out how that expression got invented, because (metaphorically) apples fall VERY far from the tree all the time, and many roll away long distances. Which is often a good thing, in cases of unsatisfactory trees.

Raining here now and very windy.

Buh-bye, Clinton Portis. He's singin' that old Dylan standard, "I shall be released."

Posted by: curmudgeon6 | February 28, 2011 12:18 PM | Report abuse

...and this just in from Borowitz Report:

Unemployment Rose Last Week By Two and a Half Men

Jobs ‘Gone Forever,’ Says Labor Department

WASHINGTON (The Borowitz Report) – The economic recovery received an unexpected jolt today as the Labor Department announced that unemployment increased last week by two and a half men.

The 2.5 jobs were lost in the Los Angeles, California area and are “gone forever,” a Labor Department spokesman said in a surprisingly downbeat assessment.

But in a possible boost for the California economy, pharmaceutical giant Pfizer today announced plans to begin marketing a new blockbuster drug called Charlie Sheen.

A bill is already moving through the California State Assembly that would make the drug Charlie Sheen legal for medicinal purposes.

But Carol Foyler, a spokesman for a leading antidrug group in the state, warns that legalizing Charlie Sheen could have “disastrous effects.”

“The drug Charlie Sheen is a gateway drug that leads to harder stuff, like the drug Mel Gibson,” she said.

In other news, the big winner at the Academy Awards was James Franco’s dealer.

Posted by: curmudgeon6 | February 28, 2011 12:55 PM | Report abuse

It doesn't get much better than this-

Posted by: kguy1 | February 28, 2011 12:59 PM | Report abuse

Ten minutes.

Posted by: yellojkt | February 28, 2011 1:33 PM | Report abuse

It's my perception that roughly half the difficulty with new roofs (rooves?) is the disposal of the old shingles. A lot of old asbestos shingles still on roofs here. Even with non-asbestos shingles, the disposal is still half the battle. Or at least, a major expense. Some fly-by-night arse dumped bags full on my street recently. The city did eventually remove them.

Gave myself a bad haircut last night. My neighbor agreed to help me get it right (higher and tighter) but has flown the coop. I feel trapped now.

Posted by: Jumper1 | February 28, 2011 1:47 PM | Report abuse

Good day all. There was freezing rain on the forecast but all we got was quite a bit of snow. That was a lucky break.

Obiang jr. goes boat shopping: a $380 millions estimate. I wonder if the sharks in the fish tank of his old boat have frikking lasers on their heads.

Posted by: shrieking_denizen | February 28, 2011 1:49 PM | Report abuse

..Drug-sniffing dog wands
all red-carpet folks, alerts
cops to major bust?


Posted by: Wilbrod_Gnome | February 28, 2011 1:56 PM | Report abuse

I got two questions into the chat with Donna Lewis, the new WaPo syndicated cartoonist.

Based on one strip it looks like Cathy meets On A Claire Day.

Posted by: yellojkt | February 28, 2011 2:07 PM | Report abuse

Some of these are priceless. I especially like the duckie jammies-#3. Perhaps it's the dental gap.

Posted by: kguy1 | February 28, 2011 2:44 PM | Report abuse

Are there any words left to describe Charlie Sheen's behavior or have we run out? Nothing comes to mind.

Posted by: cmyth4u | February 28, 2011 2:50 PM | Report abuse

I'm with you, Cassandra. I can't imagine what "certain women" find attractive about him. You know, besides the money. Is it really worth it?

The word "narcissist" doesn't really cut it anymore, does it?

Posted by: ftb3 | February 28, 2011 3:00 PM | Report abuse

"Besides the money" pretty much covers everything. Most of his recent hijinks have included paid escorts. He famously once said he doesn't pay women to have sex with him; he pays them to leave afterwards.

Posted by: yellojkt | February 28, 2011 3:08 PM | Report abuse

The Charlie Sheen situation is clearly one of addiction-addled mental illness with a dose of narcissism to boot. His family must be suffering as Charlie is, obviously, in charge of his own (non)recovery.

And, all this in the glare of media.

Hoping for healing and humility....

Posted by: CollegeQuaParkian1 | February 28, 2011 3:32 PM | Report abuse

Here are some pics of the goings-on in Madison, courtesy of Niece#2:

There's a cute human interest story that's emerged there. One pizza place near the State Capitol has stopped taking walk-in orders because it's been flooded with calls from all over the US, plus at least 5 other countries. Folks are giving their credit card info and placing pizza orders to be delivered to the protesters.

Posted by: MsJS | February 28, 2011 3:56 PM | Report abuse

A tale of a not particularly bright dog:

Posted by: yellojkt | February 28, 2011 4:09 PM | Report abuse

Gawd -- I just churned out a report that took me almost 2 1/2 hours, and I could fall over from sheer fatigue. Tomorrow I get to go downtown to get the blood work done for the thyroid test. Man, I hope that's it.

Of course, staying up until the Oscars was done didn't help matters any.

*yawn* *zzzzzzzzzzzz*

Posted by: ftb3 | February 28, 2011 5:04 PM | Report abuse

yello, here's another one I think you can handle: Rachael Ray's Late Night Bacon

Again, the comments make it.

(Sorry if it's been posted before, I haven't had time to adequately back-boodle lately.)

Posted by: MoftheMountain | February 28, 2011 5:12 PM | Report abuse

MoftheMountain... thanks for the followup to yello's great pea recipe.

"We are lucky to be alive, and the bacon was disgusting."

Posted by: -TBG- | February 28, 2011 5:27 PM | Report abuse

Now you are making me hungry and the only thing I have in the refrigerator is Leftover Mac and Cheese. Maybe I can use the Late Night Bacon recipe a little earlier in the day.

Posted by: yellojkt | February 28, 2011 5:39 PM | Report abuse

Before I backBoodle, I must mention that it's a truly sublime feeling to have the ski area to yourself for a couple of hours right at opening time...

It would have been a transcendent experience, however, if we could have done without the BB-sized sleet falling at about an inch an hour! :-O

Posted by: Scottynuke | February 28, 2011 6:03 PM | Report abuse

Just doing a moment of Boodle Lurking in between the phone ringing. No time to contribute anything.

TBG, I'm sorry for your loss. Sending all good thoughts your way.

If I get a minute tomorrow, I'll share my observations of the 70,000 people who visited the capitol square in Madison last weekend.

Warmest Regards,


Posted by: jp1954 | February 28, 2011 6:24 PM | Report abuse

Anybody have any inspiring words as I deal with implict discrimination? I'm calling it out through official channels, but it's sickening to deal with.

Posted by: Wilbrod_Gnome | February 28, 2011 6:33 PM | Report abuse

Fur therapy, gnome.
Less ranting and more petting.
Let's get going!


Posted by: Wilbrod_Gnome | February 28, 2011 6:36 PM | Report abuse

Wilbrod, I am sorry to hear that you're having to deal with this. There's simply no excuse for discrimination! I also know that you will persevere and triumph. You are that kind of person.

Posted by: slyness | February 28, 2011 6:42 PM | Report abuse

Thank you, Slyness.

Posted by: Wilbrod_Gnome | February 28, 2011 7:03 PM | Report abuse

I pity the fool who sees anything discriminatable about Wilbrod -- go get 'em!!

Thanks to all for the Oscar Boodleage -- top-notch as always.

It truly has been an interesting vacation so far. Entirely serviceable skiing Saturday, EPIC powder skiing yesterday, and today's half-day sleet-a-thon followed by a King's Peach viewing (NukeSpawn & Friend heartily endorse the Oscar accolades and appear unwarped by "that" scene, BTW).

I shall now become comatose to attempt to catch up on sleep for the last slopeside day w/NukeSpawn (although I think I could convince myself to add a solo skiing day). To all, a good evening. *brought-to-you-by-copious-amounts-of-Advil-and-the-letter-ZZZZZZ Grover waves* :-)

Posted by: Scottynuke | February 28, 2011 7:58 PM | Report abuse

Good luck to you Wilbrod,remember you have the force of the boodle behind you!

Posted by: dmd3 | February 28, 2011 7:58 PM | Report abuse

Oh, and RIP Jane Russell... :-(

Posted by: Scottynuke | February 28, 2011 8:00 PM | Report abuse

Oh dear, Scotty. The world really needs more bombshell.

Posted by: Yoki | February 28, 2011 8:07 PM | Report abuse

Good evening, all.

I note with some discomfort today that one difference between Charlie Sheen and Moammar Gadaffi is that one of them has an army...

But seriously, it's tempting to believe that Sheen's going to pull a Andy Kauffman on us and tell us it was all gag, but really - did it help Joachim Phoenix when the pulled that out of his hat a few months back? I don't think the film he had done the gag for did well, anyway...

Yello, thanks for the update on frictionless surfaces. I promise, I'll keep any jokes to myself, other than to suggest that a great many politicians would pay dearly for suits made out of a substance with those characteristics, and then there are certain health-related industries who might want to manufacture personal-health use items out of it as well.


Posted by: -bc- | February 28, 2011 8:20 PM | Report abuse

Just trying to keep up the sciencey part of the blog since I am no good at the funny part or the cooking part and definitely not the knitting part.

Posted by: yellojkt | February 28, 2011 9:12 PM | Report abuse

*Sheldon Face*

Posted by: Yoki | February 28, 2011 9:21 PM | Report abuse

And on the sciencey side, here is a WaPoMag excerpt from a Post reporter with a book coming out about the search for extraterrestrial life.

Sound familiar?

Posted by: yellojkt | February 28, 2011 9:22 PM | Report abuse

Ahhh, I'd say definitely good at the funny part, superior at the restaurant and photography parts.

Tim, sadder but wiser, I'd advise taking breakables off wall shelves prior to roof work.

Posted by: -dbG- | February 28, 2011 9:22 PM | Report abuse

I've successfully avoided Charlie Sheen till now - but he's everywhere - the nightly news, the new Larry King show, the Boodle. Is his show actually funny? I can't believe it's the highest rated TV show - but I've never watched it. He ought to take the money and run, and be glad he hasn't landed in prison. Hey, I'll do the show for $1 million!

Posted by: seasea1 | February 28, 2011 9:43 PM | Report abuse

Re: Charlie and Muammar: bc, you read my mind.

Posted by: Jumper1 | February 28, 2011 9:59 PM | Report abuse

Thanks. The people in charge are making sure there's no room for any reoccurance of the behaviors that I objected to, so I'm appreciative. Still would like an apology from the parties involved.

Posted by: Wilbrod_Gnome | February 28, 2011 10:30 PM | Report abuse

Fatuous garden comment: I have three daffodils blooming! And more on the way. Made me smile when I came home this evening.

Posted by: -bia- | February 28, 2011 10:30 PM | Report abuse

No room for reoccurrence sounds good, as does the fact that it's coming from the people in charge. Go get 'em, Wilbrod.

Posted by: -bia- | February 28, 2011 10:33 PM | Report abuse

Hey, Boodle!

I've been busy.

Boss bought a new (to us) car on Thursday. He's happy. I have to deal with MVA...

My birthday was Friday (the 25th), and I was trying to not be depressed about it. I can't get over remembering being 6 and wanting my birfday to be totally about meeeeeeeee. Oh, wait, I'm 54. Stupid. Oh, and I didn't hear from my sister, which made my eyeballs leak. I sure do miss her.........

Accidentally pissed boss off. I mentioned that I wanted a day off from my real life on my birthday. He took it personally. Oops.

I looked at Oscar pics on MSN homepage and was surprised at how boring they all were. The prettiest pics to me were Helen Mirren, Gwynnie, Celine (that was a surprise, actually), Scarlett and Natalie. Oh, and Robin Roberts. How lovely she looked!! Seems to me like the TV personalities looked best, but God Bless Robin. She looked terrific.

Cassandra, I haven't met you, but my mental picture of you is of a beautiful lady.

OK going to bed.

g'nite boodle.

Posted by: oldbam | February 28, 2011 10:59 PM | Report abuse

Wilbrod, not being snarky, not at all. But why would words make this better, if you've had satisfaction in all the ways that affect both you and future victims? If you won the argument, isn't that enough? They are implicitly admitting fault.

Posted by: Yoki | February 28, 2011 11:11 PM | Report abuse

Oh, Geez, could have commented on Charlie Sheen (but why? He's a river in Egypt and a trainwreck.)

And on Ghaddaffi (also a river in Egypt).

There are no words.

Posted by: oldbam | February 28, 2011 11:17 PM | Report abuse

Yoki, if you have a coworker (same level as you, slightly above) discriminating against you and the boss handles it by separating you and setting up a firmer format... wouldn't you still want an apology from the coworker?

I would like one because basically, I had mud slung at me by one- liar, bully, etc. for speaking up about two issues-- in front of the boss.

No it won't make things better, but I really don't appreciate being verbally abused for following proper channels to resolve this issue.

This has been a situation of quite unprofessional and discourteous behavior. I'd like to see one small courtesy paid to me-- and that's an apology.

I'm pleased with the official channels, but I never thought they were to blame for the situation.

Posted by: Wilbrod_Gnome | February 28, 2011 11:24 PM | Report abuse

I now understand why you look for that, Wilbrod.

Posted by: Yoki | February 28, 2011 11:30 PM | Report abuse

Wilbod, I obviously missed something while back-boodling. Dealing with PITAs in the workplace is always difficult. Hope you got some satisfaction from protesting.

Posted by: oldbam | February 28, 2011 11:32 PM | Report abuse

scc--WilbRod. Sorry, Wilbrod. Damn rented fingers!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: oldbam | February 28, 2011 11:39 PM | Report abuse

In the yard, bees are visiting tiny avocado blossoms. The two little mangos are resprouting after losing up to 2 feet of stem due to cold. There will be a few flowers, but probably not enough for a decent crop. Rats.

A bunch of baby native sandhill and scrub plants are looking fine. No idea whether I'll have a sand garden by summer. They're taking up space used by a mass of short "Profusion" zinnias last summer. Utterly tough plants, putting up with afternoon heat. I'll have to find space for them somewhere else this year.

The oaks are dumping pollen and catkins. Mess.

A few caladiums are up. Scarlet sage (Salvia coccinea) is busy growing new stems and should be putting on a modest show in a week or two. They are wild-type with smaller flowers than cultivated varieties. They have an agreeable tendency to show up in suitable parts of the yard, even distant from established beds. In our climate, they're short-lived perennials.

The thorny Hercules Club tree is about to flower. Mine is only about 5 or 6 years old, maybe 20' tall, skinny. It should be feeding swallowtail caterpillars.

Posted by: DaveoftheCoonties | March 1, 2011 12:32 AM | Report abuse

Oldbam, yes, the situation is well on its way to being resolved.

Yoki, thank you for understanding.

Posted by: Wilbrod_Gnome | March 1, 2011 12:49 AM | Report abuse

Belated Happy Birthday, oldbam!! (fingers kept wanting to type "bleated" for some reason) *L*

Wilbrod, glad order is being restored, and yes, an apology is always called for.

*off-to-one-last-day-of-sharing-the-slopes-with-NukeSpawn Grover waves* :-)

Posted by: Scottynuke | March 1, 2011 5:41 AM | Report abuse

God loves us so much more than we can imagine through Him that died for all, Jesus Christ.

Good morning, friends. Wilbrod, I hope you get an apology. Being a disable person myself, I run into people that do the most unthinkable stuff, and they go on like it's ok. My life is pretty busy, much of the time I just go on, and rarely do I mention these things. I'm glad you're standing up for what's right. I should too, but so much of the time, I'm just too tired. And that's an awful excuse, but it is also very true. You go, Wilbrod!

TBG, will be thinking of you and family today.

Slyness, I hope your city is in one piece. Some of those storms were quite violent.

Happy Birthday, oldbam, and thanks.

I'm attempting to walk to the store this morning from my apartment. It's only a couple of blocks, but the last time I tried, only made it halfway. There's an eighty year old lady that walks to the store everyday, and she lives farther from it than me. Perhaps it will be a "yes, I can" day.

Time to get started, it's the after-school program today! Have a beautiful day, folks, and love to all.

Posted by: cmyth4u | March 1, 2011 6:22 AM | Report abuse

Good morning, everyone. Hi Cassandra! It's a cool, crisp, clear day so far in my corner of the Carolinas, how about yours? Mr. T poured an inch out of the rain gauge, for which I am grateful. We didn't have much in the way of thunder and lightning here, how about you?

I have an amaryllis budding. DaveotC, is this normal? It was in the sunroom, hidden behind an asparagus fern; I didn't know it would be cool enough to put it into dormancy. But I'm looking forward to the bloom!

Got an appointment for a haircut this morning, which I badly need. Always good to get that done.

Posted by: slyness | March 1, 2011 7:23 AM | Report abuse

Good morning, y'all.

Warm banananana bread, hot coffee and chilled OJ on the table.

Wilbrod, my experience in dealing with discrimination at work was never satisfactory, and this was from a company with binders full of anti-discriminatory policies. I hope your situation is different.

Charlie who? I have to say I've gotten quite adept at ignoring what deserves to be ignored, yanno?

Very frenvious about flower boodletalk.

A belated but hearty birthday wish to oldbam.

Slyness, as long as you're at a salon, would you mind getting my hair cut too?

Must be off. Very busy morning ahead.

Posted by: MsJS | March 1, 2011 9:26 AM | Report abuse

New Kit!

Posted by: ftb3 | March 1, 2011 9:37 AM | Report abuse

new kit!

Posted by: oldbam | March 1, 2011 9:37 AM | Report abuse

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