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The Vatican's Holocaust comparison

By Ann Telnaes  |  April 5, 2010; 12:00 AM ET
Categories:  Religion , Scandals  
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everyone made valid points and i am not in dispute with anyone; although as a surivior i am perplexed over all the issues since i am the one left to wander in the dark relating to my religion, self-worthlessness, and the ptsd i have to battle everyday as a result of the crimes i endured as a child and i don't hear alot of healing or comforting talk among the community. it will take much soul searching to either remain a catholic or to convert to another religion whichseems strange to me. i will ask jesus for guideance on that one.

Posted by: binkey_1 | April 11, 2010 4:08 PM | Report abuse

Great cartoon Ann! Catholic Church insulted the memory of the Holocaust, in which it was complict, by suggesting criticism of the Church somehow equates to anti-semitism, how ignorant of the church!

Posted by: kemcb | April 7, 2010 2:40 PM | Report abuse


Although I enjoy Ann's animation, this cartoon simply is in poor taste. It is not even remotely amusing.

Posted by: nbcmarine | April 6, 2010 3:58 PM | Report abuse

The response of the Catholic Church to its squalid sex abuse scandal is in poor taste and not even remotely amusing. Thus, I would say Ms. Telnaes' cartoon is spot on.
You just missed the point.

Posted by: captn_ahab | April 6, 2010 4:40 PM | Report abuse

Although I enjoy Ann's animation, this cartoon simply is in poor taste. It is not even remotely amusing.

Posted by: nbcmarine | April 6, 2010 3:58 PM | Report abuse

It is a great cartoon but it doesn't sum up the Catholic Church.

Posted by: bustils1 | April 6, 2010 3:41 PM | Report abuse

Evil seems to be lurking in all avenues of life. Good Christians would like to see that evil eliminated and not illuminated.

Posted by: JONAHandtheFISH | April 6, 2010 12:41 PM | Report abuse

The Church has shown it's lack of sensitivity to the Jews, children and others with its attempt to protect the hierarchy!

Posted by: MyVoice3 | April 6, 2010 9:03 AM | Report abuse

Anyone who deviates from the precept of Israel, Right Or Wrong is an anti-Semite. Likewise anyone who deviates from the principle of Vatican, Right Or Wrong is guilty of similar blasphemous behavior.

The Vatican cleric's analogy is correct, if unintended: a sacred cow is a sacred cow.

Posted by: patrick3 | April 5, 2010 10:44 PM | Report abuse

Antisemitism or Oh, what a mess we do perceive/For a Nation governed by lies and greed
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After two lawsuits against the Vatican for sexual abuse were permitted to go ahead in the United States, the Vatican's sovereign nation status notwithstanding, I contacted Jonathan Levy, attorney for the thousands of Serbian Orthodox, Jews, Roma (and their heirs) tortured, many to death, by 200 Franciscan nazi priests. Levy had suits against both the Vatican and the Franciscan Order. The plaintiffs lost on appeal regarding the former since the Vatican is deemed a "sovereign nation." The latter is going ahead.

The Franciscans cut living people to ribbons with scissors and watched them bleed to death. They impaled them and watched them drown. They stole what they had and deposited it in Vatican Bank.

My email to Levy suggested that he might consider further appeal in light of the lawsuits against the Vatican currently underway.

Yesterday, I received this emailed announcement from Jonathan Levy.
------------------------
Dr. Jonathan Levy

April 4, 2010 For Immediate Release

Vatican Bank Claims Plaintiffs


Alperin v. Vatican Bank

Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals

Case No. 09-17761, 08-16060

www.vaticanbankclaims.com

resistk@yahoo.com

+1 202-318-2406

Holocaust Survivors Denounce Vatican on Easter

Attorneys Call for Mass Lawsuits against Pope by all Victims

San Francisco: Former Yugoslavia was a vast killing ground during the Second World War – upwards to a million Orthodox Christians, Jews, and Roma were murdered by the Nazis and their Croatian Allies. It has long been known that some of the loot including gold from concentration camps ended up at the Vatican Bank deposited there by Catholic clergy acting on behalf of war criminals.

Holocaust survivors are outraged that the Pope compares his role in the sexual abuse cover up to that of Holocaust victims in a recent announcement made by the Pope's personal preacher, Father Raniero Cantalamessa and arrogant challenges to victims' claims by Cardinal Sodano. “I am calling for all Holocaust and sexual abuse survivors and related organization to sue the Pope on grounds of historical defamation and conspiracy to cover up crimes,” states Jonathan Levy, an attorney for the survivors suing the Vatican.

Continues below

Posted by: FarnazMansouri | April 5, 2010 6:37 PM | Report abuse

PART II
A lawsuit seeking truth and justice for the genocide of over 500,000 Serbs, Jews and Roma by the Ustasha was filed in 1999 against the Vatican Bank and Franciscan Order of Friars Minor. The plaintiffs include Holocaust survivors and their heirs in Serbia, the United States, Ukraine, and Sweden.

The evidence collected in the past ten years points squarely at the Vatican Bank and Franciscan Order and includes the sworn testimony of former US Army counterintelligence agent William Gowen and declassified documents.

The Vatican has claimed it is immune from lawsuit regardless of its role in laundering the profits of genocide. The US Courts have agreed so far with the Vatican and the case is on appeal.

Jonathan Levy and Thomas Easton attorneys for the Plaintiffs vow to take the matter to the US Supreme Court if necessary and to question the impartiality of those Supreme Court Justices who identify themselves as Catholics.

“The hypocrisy of Pope Benedict and his advisors goes beyond any decency,” states Levy. “First they cover up laundering Nazi loot and now sexual abuse of children. We must flood the courts with complaints against the Vatican until the veil of immunity is lifted.”

Levy states he is actively working with other attorneys who will soon be filing fresh lawsuits against the Vatican worldwide: “As a convert to Orthodox Christianity, it pains me to announce this on Easter but the Vatican has forced my hand with its lies and attempts to manipulate history. We are already in touch with organizations in England, Serbia, Switzerland, Australia, Italy and elsewhere who have expressed an interest in pursuing a universal effort to hold the Vatican accountable for its ongoing crimes.”

For more information contact:

Dr. Jonathan Levy

Attorney & Solicitor

+1-202-318-2406

resistk@yahoo.com

www.vaticanbankclaims.com

Vatican Bank plaintiffs include these organizations:

Jasenovac Research Institute

Republic of Serbian Krajina in Exile

The Independent Council of Gypsies in Serbia

Posted by: FarnazMansouri | April 5, 2010 6:37 PM | Report abuse

Not the only abusing priest working in India, raping children and women, but still
worth reading. I wonder how closely antisemitism and pedophilia go together?

Priest accused of US abuse still working in India

By PATRICK CONDON and RAVI NESSMAN
The Associated Press
Monday, April 5, 2010; 5:43 PM

ST. PAUL, Minn. -- Top officials at the Vatican were warned more than four years ago about a Catholic priest later charged with sexually assaulting a 14-year-old girl in Minnesota, according to newly released Vatican correspondence, but to this day he continues to work in his home diocese in India.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/04/05/AR2010040501246.html?hpid=moreheadlines

Posted by: FarnazMansouri | April 5, 2010 6:26 PM | Report abuse

Just plain sad surely these comments will be censored.

Posted by: taxcutsin12 | April 5, 2010 5:11 PM | Report abuse

Just out of curiousity: with all the noises about the catholic church where's the same level of noise when child abuse happens in the public sphere and society in general?

Posted by: eabgarnet | April 5, 2010 3:58 PM | Report abuse

Sad, but true. Another Telnaes "picture worth a thousand words".

Posted by: lufrank1 | April 5, 2010 2:14 PM | Report abuse

ok what happened to my comment?
its not here.
you appear to think that the only way you can have anti-semetic conduct.
remember that hitler put lots of Catholic priests into those same camps.
but there are many anti-semetic ways to express conduct.
there was the famous "gentelmans agreement" where jews were kept from hotels, beaches, country clubs, and forced to create their own.
well that is true for catholics too.
it appears that everyone is allowed to treat every catholic like they were lepers and that is the new gentelmans agreement.
every priest is a pedo accouring to you.
every pedo that was a priest is all of a sudden the responsibility of the pope or arch bishop.
you seem to fail to remember that the same people yelling now were the ones back then that said that pedo could be rehabilitated by therapy. that was the view of science. thousands of pedo's were treated this way but it appears that only the catholics are subject to this backwards look at history.
and during Easter you just had to bring up 20 year old stories to deflect away from the Holy Day of Easter, the most important day in the Catholic Church - the day Christ Rose from the Dead and you really expect comments about old news from the Pope.
you make me sick.

Posted by: infantry11b4faus | April 5, 2010 2:09 PM | Report abuse

Thanks for an outstanding cartoon insightful, to the point and rightfully harsh.
Keep up the good work -- but I'm afraid, until law enforcement starts doing its job, all that will result are more hash marks.

Posted by: bgreen2224 | April 5, 2010 1:59 PM | Report abuse

test

Posted by: captn_ahab | April 5, 2010 1:56 PM | Report abuse

The church is so awash in arrogance, indignation, self pity, condescension, and defensive posturing that is difficult to discern any moral compass whatsoever in that bloated corporation. Ms. Telnaes chooses to confront the moral effrontery of the church in the most forthright way possible. Oh, and by the way, how dare they drag the Jews into their squalor!

Posted by: captn_ahab | April 5, 2010 1:33 PM | Report abuse

That is a tough cartoon, Ann. It is deservedly tough. Anti-semitism has nothing to do with the issue, even as an analog. Anti-Catholicism has an entirely different history and set of provocations.

Posted by: Blivet1 | April 5, 2010 1:13 PM | Report abuse


Bashing institutions for the crimes of individuals paints innocent people with the same brush. That is a good reason for institutions to examine their culpability in the cause behind crimes. Preventing priests from marrying is inconsistent with Christian principles.
Bringing up anti-semitism by Israel every time Israelis kill innocent people is no justification for wrong doing. It was the Nazis, not the Palestinians who did the Holocaust. Revenge is the scourge of humanity and perpetuates death and destruction.

Posted by: OchamsRazor | April 5, 2010 12:47 PM | Report abuse

The term "Semitism" has been misused for so long! The vast majority of the Semitic people are the Arabs. Semitic Jews are small minority! Did that Vatican leader mean the Arabs or the Jews? May be like the many misinformed,he does not know the difference!

Posted by: editor4tonio | April 5, 2010 12:08 PM | Report abuse

anti semitism is not just the nazi kind. the constant bashing of the Catholic Church - descrimination that goes to every element of the Catholic Church and priests is just as bad.
no they are not putting them into camps but jews know that descrimination comes in so many forms and they had to deal with anti semitic conduct in their daily lives.
maybe you dont remember what was called the "gentelmans agreement" that excluded jews from markets, beaches, countryclubs and hotels.

Posted by: infantry11b4faus | April 5, 2010 10:10 AM | Report abuse

I don't get the cartoon, but I think the catholic church should be ashamed.

Posted by: hrndnwmn1 | April 5, 2010 9:53 AM | Report abuse

Might as well get on the band wagon of those who didn't actually hear what was said yet want to keep their jobs and their good name with the snobs.

And the first comment proves the sentiment of the Jewish friend of the priest who was quoted. "sums up the Catholic church." That is why the Jewish friend of the priest said it is similar to anti-Semitism, because people vilify the entire church.

Even the reaction to the priest, such as this cartoon, could be compared to anti-Semitic cartoons of the 19th and early 20th century. Keep it up, you are proving his point.

Posted by: jim4postnatl | April 5, 2010 8:11 AM | Report abuse

Thanks Ann for now going a couple of days with no gun violence in your cartoon.

Posted by: taxcutsin12 | April 5, 2010 7:20 AM | Report abuse

Of course, you could also do a cartoon on Patrick3 and the Roman Catholic Church that spawned him, along with other antisemites.

On the other hand, Ann, Patrick3 is a cartoon unto himself. HOw could you compete with that?

Posted by: FarnazMansouri | April 5, 2010 3:41 AM | Report abuse

You are brilliant, Ann. Not for nothing do they call you the great Ann Telnaes.

Posted by: FarnazMansouri | April 5, 2010 3:39 AM | Report abuse

If you really wanted to be accurate in your portrayal of antisemitism as the term is used today you should have included pictures of Jimmy Carter, Desmond Tutu, General David Petraeus, the surviving crew members of the U.S.S. Liberty, Senator James Webb, Nelson Mandela, Vanessa Redgrave and others who have been explicitly or implicitly accused of antisemitism by major pro-Israeli groups.

Posted by: patrick3 | April 5, 2010 2:45 AM | Report abuse

Great cartoon, Ann. Pretty much sums up the Catholic Church.

Posted by: SeattleOrca | April 5, 2010 12:51 AM | Report abuse

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