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By Ann Telnaes  |  May 21, 2010; 12:00 AM ET
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You also fail to point out that all the democratic congress had to do (they were in the majority from 2006 on)was cut the funding which Bush told them to do if they don't like what he was doing. Of course they didn't because they know that they would have been voted out of office.

Posted by: captain3292
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You forgot one thing the Democrats attained majority in January 2007 at the start of the Congressional term, while wining the election in Nov 2006.

You left out one thing in your analysis of Bush telling Congress to cut the funding is that he has a veto pen and the bully pulpit with the help of the Republican allies to back him up. The Democrats tried to cut the funding but the Reps stall them but using the security theme talking points to paint them as weak on security- mainly to scare people.

Posted by: beeker25 | May 26, 2010 1:39 PM | Report abuse

So we're arguing that we spent nearly a trillion dollars in six years for wars which were arguably necessary versus nearly a trillion in one year for a "stimulus" package that was, for practical purposes, a complete waste of money? Oh, and a health care "reform" bill that will cost a trillion and counting, that most people didn't want (and still don't want), and will fix nothing ?

Posted by: sullivanjc | May 26, 2010 8:39 AM | Report abuse

Myvoice3---My view has been from a direct inside look at these conspiratorial operations and are fact not fiction. Factions within our government refuse to allow these to be exposed to the public. Myvoice3 by all means go ahead and believe in the distorted and incomplete information that is served up by the media and all the propaganda organizations. For me seeing and knowing these operations first hand is all I need to draw my conclusions no matter who might be interested in what I have to say or disputes them. So Help Me God

Posted by: JONAHandtheFISH | May 23, 2010 3:40 PM | Report abuse

captain3292---What have those wars really achieved? How could 14 soldiers lose their lives at the hands of an army officer at Fort Hood? Destroy the Afghan Heroin trade and bring our military back home. They can protect and serve US within our own borders. We should completely investigate any terrorist operation that is operating in our own government, military, intelligence gathering or security agencies.

Posted by: JONAHandtheFISH | May 23, 2010 3:25 PM | Report abuse

captain3292

Obama, Telnaes, et al. Communists?

Wins the stupid award for comments about this cartoon.

Posted by: lufrank1 | May 23, 2010 2:51 PM | Report abuse

Telnaes, What your trying to spin here is that the war costs are on a yearly basis which in reality what your showing is a cumulative cost over the term from 2002 to 2009. Why don't you show the costs increases from 2009 to 2010? Oh yeah that would show that the communist in the white house tripling the costs over that short period with entitlements and corporate bailouts.

You also fail to point out that all the democratic congress had to do (they were in the majority from 2006 on)was cut the funding which Bush told them to do if they don't like what he was doing. Of course they didn't because they know that they would have been voted out of office.

You just won't admit that the US is going communist until the government breaks into your studio and directs what you will draw. Of course by then it would be too late.

Never have I seen so much mis-information being published as I've seen through your communistic rhetoric.

Posted by: captain3292 | May 23, 2010 10:53 AM | Report abuse

JONAHandtheFISH perhaps if you listen to individual and read more articles, reports and documentaries that are objective and fact base and less conspiratorial you would have a more constructive and balance view of the government and the world.

Posted by: MyVoice3 | May 23, 2010 6:51 AM | Report abuse

taxcutsin12

Yep you are correct about most Dem's supporting the Iraq War (probably from fear of losing votes in their next run).

HOWEVER . . . It Was Cheney's twisted "intelligence" and Bush's desire to satisfy his pompous ego as a War Commander In Chief President that took us into that amoral War!

Posted by: lufrank1 | May 22, 2010 4:07 PM | Report abuse

Slick Willy, Kerry, Hillary and John Edwards in their own words below on the need to use force to stop Saddam's WMD.

November 9, 1997: John Kerry's speech on the floor of the Senate, [Congressional Record, p. S12256]: "......Saddam Hussein cannot ignore the United Nations. He cannot be permitted to go unobserved and unimpeded toward his horrific objective of amassing a stockpile of weapons of mass destruction. This is not a matter about which there should be any debate whatsoever in the Security Council, or, certainly, in this Nation. If he remains obdurate, I believe that the United Nations must take, and should authorize immediately, whatever steps are necessary to force him to relent--and that the United States should support and participate in those steps. We must not presume that these conclusions automatically will be accepted by every one of our allies, some of which have different interests both in the region and elsewhere, or will be of the same degree of concern to them that they are to the U.S. But it is my belief that we have the ability to persuade them of how serious this is and that the U.N. must not be diverted or bullied."

William J. Clinton
If Saddam rejects peace and we have to use force, our purpose is clear. We want to seriously diminish the threat posed by Iraq's weapons of mass destruction program.

Senator John Edwards (Democrat, North Carolina)
Speech at the Center for Strategic and International Studies
October 7, 2002
"My position is very clear: The time has come for decisive action to eliminate the threat posed by Saddam Hussein's weapons of mass destruction. I'm a co-sponsor of the bipartisan resolution presently under consideration in the Senate. Saddam Hussein's regime is a grave threat to America and our allies. We know that he has chemical and biological weapons today, that he's used them in the past, and that he's doing everything he can to build more. Every day he gets closer to his long-term goal of nuclear capability.

Senator Hillary Clinton (Democrat, New York)
Addressing the US Senate
October 10, 2002
"In the four years since the inspectors left, intelligence reports show that Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and biological weapons stock, his missile delivery capability, and his nuclear program. He has also given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists, including Al Qaeda members...
It is clear, however, that if left unchecked, Saddam Hussein will continue to increase his capacity to wage biological and chemical warfare, and will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons. Should he succeed in that endeavor, he could alter the political and security landscape of the Middle East, which as we know all too well, effects American security. This is a very difficult vote, this is probably the hardest decision I've ever had to make. Any vote that might lead to war should be hard, but I cast it with conviction."


Posted by: taxcutsin12 | May 22, 2010 8:13 AM | Report abuse

MyVoice3---It is not just FAUX news. It is all of the media. My sources come deep from within government agencies like the CIA, NSA, and DHS. A common person can get a better understanding about what is really taking place in America and around the World today from sources like Alex Jones and Steve Quayle. But the Truth has gotten so ugly people do not want to accept or acknowledge it. The History Channel is a very important source of information but has also been used as a tool of propaganda and mind control.

As I was growing up 60 MINUTES was the premier investigative News Program on television that was not afraid to take chances when it came to revealing the Whole Truth. Today it has become one of the most pathetic investigative news operations that now agrees to censoring many important facts on most of it's reporting.

There are undisclosed situations and operations behind major events like the Haitian Earthquake and this current Gulf Oil Spill of which most people would find very hard to believe. I am not referring to a N. Korean submarine which is just another propaganda story.

Posted by: JONAHandtheFISH | May 22, 2010 7:51 AM | Report abuse

JONAHandtheFISH You can see how our government operates if one is willing to ignore Faux news shows, pundints and sources of misinformation and be willing to do their homework! Most are too busy or too distracted to make the effort.

Posted by: MyVoice3 | May 21, 2010 5:09 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: diehardlib | May 21, 2010 7:44 AM

"Considering that the Tea Party movement wasn't in existence during those years, that little cartoon shows a blatant disregard for facts.
Of course, I shouldn't be taking cartoons so seriously -- Ann Telnaes certainly doesn't."
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Have you heard ANY Fox nut or Tea Party goofball Criticize Bush/Cheney for initiating and expanding the Iraq War WITHOUT providing ANY way to pay for it?

Thanks again, Ms Telnaes.

Posted by: lufrank1 | May 21, 2010 4:02 PM | Report abuse

I don't blame the tea partyers for sleeping through the first part of the movie. Let's just say the trigger level to get these people riled up is higher than many expected. The point is, these people gave Uncle Sam all the time and patience needed to fix the problems. Time, money, and patience wasted. So don't be so quick to say they were asleep. The guard dog is awake, barking, and HUNGRY!

Posted by: mhoust | May 21, 2010 3:18 PM | Report abuse

MyVoice3---CHANGE will only come about when the COMPLETE and ABSOLUTE TRUTH about how our government is actually operated and told to all AMERICANS. All those that will be recognized and remembered on MEMORIAL DAY deserve to have that done.

IN MEMORY OF USAGATOR

Posted by: JONAHandtheFISH | May 21, 2010 12:36 PM | Report abuse

i attended a tea party tea party at nieghbor house -- they want to bring troops home and put them on mexico border

Posted by: oldhat | May 21, 2010 12:20 PM | Report abuse

The Tea Party is an organization that has been established to counter the election of Obama and to further the agenda of right wing ideologues. With the help of the Faux news programs and pundents strategically placed in the public eye they have power far beyond their actual numbers. Granted there is a movement for great change in this country but I don't believe you will find it truly in the ranks of the Tea Party!

Posted by: MyVoice3 | May 21, 2010 9:32 AM | Report abuse

My sentiments exactly, Ann.

Posted by: lcarter0311 | May 21, 2010 8:45 AM | Report abuse

Considering that the Tea Party movement wasn't in existence during those years, that little cartoon shows a blatant disregard for facts.

Of course, I shouldn't be taking cartoons so seriously -- Ann Telnaes certainly doesn't.

Posted by: diehardlib | May 21, 2010 7:44 AM | Report abuse

The first World Trade Center bombing, Khobar Towers bombing, US Embassy bombings in Kenya and Tanzania, the USS Cole Bombing -------the cost of security after Slick Willy------priceless.

Posted by: taxcutsin12 | May 21, 2010 5:35 AM | Report abuse

carbonhog---That is right. Ted Kennedy lost a brother in a war. He then lost another because that brother did not want to enter the US into one. Senator Kennedy took an unpopular stand against the military concerninig Iraq and then ended up eventually dying from Brain Cancer. Hmmmm

Ann---Actually I think the entire US was put to sleep concerning what really took place during the 9/11 attack. It has cost America a whole lot more than just the funding of those wars. Now our military is standing guard over poppy fields in Afghanistan. When people do finally wake up completely they might discover just how long there minds have been chained up and distorted.

Posted by: JONAHandtheFISH | May 21, 2010 1:09 AM | Report abuse

Yeah and all the democrats voted for it before they voted against it except Ted Kennedy God rest his soul.

Posted by: carbonhog | May 20, 2010 9:16 PM | Report abuse

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