Network News

X My Profile
View More Activity


Posted at 3:31 PM ET, 03/ 2/2011

School reform through confrontation

By Valerie Strauss

Increasingly in state after state, battles over school reform have become confrontational. We’ve seen it in Wisconsin and, as my colleague Nick Anderson writes in this new story, in Indiana, where the state House has been a standstill because of a Democratic walkout, a la Madison.

Are there consequences for the larger reform movement with an increase in confrontational tactics? Anderson says yes, noting that the increasingly bitter battles could affect bipartisan efforts to rewrite the No Child Left Behind law, one area where the Obama administration believes its can achieve some legislative success despite the split Congress.


In Madison, teachers have been protesting the Republican governor’s effort to strip them and other public employees of most of their collective bargaining rights despite monetary concessions by the teachers union. Fourteen Democratic senators have left the state so the legislation cannot come up for a vote.

In Indiana, the Republican governor, Mitch Daniels, is pushing legislation that would link teacher salaries with standardized test scores, make it easier to dismiss teachers, expand charter schools and offer vouchers to low-to-moderate income families. Daniels, too, seeks to put limits on collective bargaining.

The Idaho superintendent of public instruction, Tom Luna, received several threats recently that he says are linked to his plan to raise class sizes, layoff some teachers, institute merit pay and beef up technology in the classroom.

There’s a lot more going on. Read Nick’s story, here.

YOUR TAKE: Should schools work with unions on reform, or are unions the problem? Give us your thoughts by using #TeachUnions on Twitter and we'll post some responses right here.

Follow my blog every day by bookmarking washingtonpost.com/answersheet. And for admissions advice, college news and links to campus papers, please check out our Higher Education page at washingtonpost.com/higher-ed Bookmark it!

By Valerie Strauss  | March 2, 2011; 3:31 PM ET
Categories:  Teachers  | Tags:  collective bargaining rights, indiana, indiana collective bargaining, labor movement, no child left behind, teachers, wisconsin protests, wisconsin senators, wisconsin teachers  
Save & Share:  Send E-mail   Facebook   Twitter   Digg   Yahoo Buzz   Del.icio.us   StumbleUpon   Technorati   Google Buzz   Previous: March Madness: 'My name is Luke and I refuse to take your test'
Next: The Diane Ravitch myth

Comments

Ms. Strauss: Is it true that Guy Brandenburg was a former WTU negotiator?

In the Washington Post Guy Brandenburg is referred to as "a former DC math teacher." Sounds innocent enough. The link below though (from his blog) suggests he was also a WTU negotiator.

http://gfbrandenburg.wordpress.com/2010/04/09/tentative-agreement-your-thoughts/

Isn't the fact he was a WTU negotiator hugely relevant to the news reader in assessing his credibility as a source? Why would the Post keep that information from readers?

Here's the relevant excerpt from the Post news story:

"A former D.C. math teacher, Guy Brandenburg, posted on his blog a study that includes test scores from the Baltimore school where Rhee taught from 1992 to 1995. The post, dated Jan. 31, generated intense discussion in education circles this week. In it, Brandenburg contended that the data show Rhee "lied repeatedly" in an effort to make gains in her class look more impressive than they were."

Mike DeBonis, before he joined the Post, identified him as a WTU negotiator in his Washington City Paper column:

http://www.washingtoncitypaper.com/blogs/citydesk/2010/04/12/fenty-makes-his-case-loose-lips-daily/

Are journalistic standards for such things lower at the the Post than at the Washington City Paper?

Posted by: frankb1 | March 2, 2011 4:20 PM | Report abuse

Ms. Strauss: Is it true that Guy Brandenburg was a former WTU negotiator?

In the Washington Post Guy Brandenburg is referred to as "a former DC math teacher." Sounds innocent enough. The link below though (from his blog) suggests he was also a WTU negotiator.

http://gfbrandenburg.wordpress.com/2010/04/09/tentative-agreement-your-thoughts/

Isn't the fact he was a WTU negotiator hugely relevant to the news reader in assessing his credibility as a source? Why would the Post keep that information from readers?

Here's the relevant excerpt from the Post news story:

"A former D.C. math teacher, Guy Brandenburg, posted on his blog a study that includes test scores from the Baltimore school where Rhee taught from 1992 to 1995. The post, dated Jan. 31, generated intense discussion in education circles this week. In it, Brandenburg contended that the data show Rhee "lied repeatedly" in an effort to make gains in her class look more impressive than they were."

Mike DeBonis, before he joined the Post, identified him as a WTU negotiator in his Washington City Paper column:

http://www.washingtoncitypaper.com/blogs/citydesk/2010/04/12/fenty-makes-his-case-loose-lips-daily/

Are journalistic standards for such things lower at the the Post than at the Washington City Paper?

Posted by: frankb1 | March 2, 2011 4:20 PM | Report abuse

Ms. Strauss: Is it true that Guy Brandenburg was a former WTU negotiator?

In the Washington Post Guy Brandenburg is referred to as "a former DC math teacher." Sounds innocent enough. The link below though (from his blog) suggests he was also a WTU negotiator.

http://gfbrandenburg.wordpress.com/2010/04/09/tentative-agreement-your-thoughts/

Isn't the fact he was a WTU negotiator hugely relevant to the news reader in assessing his credibility as a source? Why would the Post keep that information from readers?

Here's the relevant excerpt from the Post news story:

"A former D.C. math teacher, Guy Brandenburg, posted on his blog a study that includes test scores from the Baltimore school where Rhee taught from 1992 to 1995. The post, dated Jan. 31, generated intense discussion in education circles this week. In it, Brandenburg contended that the data show Rhee "lied repeatedly" in an effort to make gains in her class look more impressive than they were."

Mike DeBonis, before he joined the Post, identified him as a WTU negotiator in his Washington City Paper column:

http://www.washingtoncitypaper.com/blogs/citydesk/2010/04/12/fenty-makes-his-case-loose-lips-daily/

Are journalistic standards for such things lower at the the Post than at the Washington City Paper?

Posted by: frankb1 | March 2, 2011 4:20 PM | Report abuse

Ms. Strauss: Is it true that Guy Brandenburg was a former WTU negotiator?

In the Washington Post Guy Brandenburg is referred to as "a former DC math teacher." Sounds innocent enough. The link below though (from his blog) suggests he was also a WTU negotiator.

http://gfbrandenburg.wordpress.com/2010/04/09/tentative-agreement-your-thoughts/

Isn't the fact he was a WTU negotiator hugely relevant to the news reader in assessing his credibility as a source? Why would the Post keep that information from readers?

Here's the relevant excerpt from the Post news story:

"A former D.C. math teacher, Guy Brandenburg, posted on his blog a study that includes test scores from the Baltimore school where Rhee taught from 1992 to 1995. The post, dated Jan. 31, generated intense discussion in education circles this week. In it, Brandenburg contended that the data show Rhee "lied repeatedly" in an effort to make gains in her class look more impressive than they were."

Mike DeBonis, before he joined the Post, identified him as a WTU negotiator in his Washington City Paper column:

http://www.washingtoncitypaper.com/blogs/citydesk/2010/04/12/fenty-makes-his-case-loose-lips-daily/

Are journalistic standards for such things lower at the Post than at the Washington City Paper?

Posted by: frankb1 | March 2, 2011 4:20 PM | Report abuse

I personally don't know if Mr. Brandenburg was ever a WTU negotiator, but I do know that teachers often serve on bargaining teams/committees. It is a volunteer position, and the membership of these teams changes with each round of bargaining. Teachers taking on this role have to be willing to work even harder outside of school hours to learn all of the ins and outs of successful negotiation.

Posted by: willoughbyspit | March 2, 2011 6:40 PM | Report abuse

Guy could be a circus elephant trainer for all I know, yet the only critique frankb1 can offer of Guy is that he is/was a WTU negotiator.

Where did Guy go wrong on the analysis of the UMBC report?
Point them out, frankb1.

The only thing credible that Whitmire/eduwonk/Mead/Hess/Daly could come up with is that Guy went back into time and hid the great scores of Miss Braveheart.

Over on the recent Rhee blog, frankb1 tried to change the issue of Miss Rhee honesty by claiming a large segment of people were racist against her.
Asked by phillipmarlowe to name names, he named only 3 people and it was a stretch to call their remarks racist.
Frankb1 was also asked to tell whether or not he thinks Miss Rhee lied.


That's frankb1's response.


So, number analysis in line frankb1?
It was pointed out to you that great minds discuss ideas.

Guy's been discussing Miss Rhee's fidelity to truth.
Frankb1, however, declines and prefers the People magazine approach. I wonder what school taught him that or where he learned that.
Should have gone to a Catholic school frank, like DeMatha.

Posted by: edlharris | March 2, 2011 7:43 PM | Report abuse

So, Frank - how long did you have to dig to pull up this tidbit from Brandenburg's sordid past?

Can we take it that this is the best you could do? Did you know that every school has a union building rep and that it's a rotating position?

Of course you did, but you're hoping some readers will be scandalized that the mild-mannered retired math teacher also had some union involvement.

Keep checking - maybe you'll find that he bounced a check once or walked his dog without a pooper scooper.

You guys must be really desperate - and really afraid of Brandenburg.

Posted by: efavorite | March 2, 2011 7:55 PM | Report abuse

It's all true. When I was a kid in the early 1960's, I never scooped up the poop that my dog Nicole created when I took her for walks.
I've bounced a few checks. Not fun: the embarrassment and the extra fees are both horrible. I don't recommend it.
And even though I've never trained an elephant, I do know somebody who ran away and joined the circus in Mexico.
Hey, I was even active in the anti-war movement during Vietnam!
And I taught math in DCPS for over 30 years.
For several of those years I was the building representative, or else was a member of the schools' School Chapter Advisory Committee, which is supposed to meet monthly with the principal to discuss matters that need to be attended to. During one of the dozen or so WTU-DCPS contracts that were negotiated, about 10 years ago, I was invited by the WTU leadership at the time to serve as one of the volunteer, unpaid, members of the negotiating team. At every contract, several members like myself are traditionally invited to sit on the union side. It was an enlightening experience to see union higher-ups and top management types at work. It didn't give me a lot of respect for either group, frankly.
So?
GFBrandenburg aka TexasIke

Posted by: TexasIke59 | March 2, 2011 8:08 PM | Report abuse

Oh, and Frankb1, what would you like to disclose about yourself?

Posted by: TexasIke59 | March 2, 2011 8:21 PM | Report abuse

One the Ms. Strauss's recent blog on Rhee, frankb1 gave up trying to defend his view of Whitmire's performance at Politics and Prose.

Posted by: edlharris | March 2, 2011 9:00 PM | Report abuse

efav. -- unclear if Guy would fit "mild mannered," even in his own opinion.

Regarding the piling on Whitmire and frankb1, it is interesting how any counter-opinion must be jumped on, trashed, ridiculed, fragged, gassed, gagged, etc.

I won't be reading Whitmire's book, but it does appear to contain some serious criticism of Rhee, as well as her critics.

BTW, consider what the Mayor has been doing or not doing on the education front. Better yet, consider what the entire dazed and confused City Council has been doing. Those who saw the election as a major shift in political and popular sentiment in teachers' favor, need to think again.

Posted by: axolotl | March 2, 2011 9:12 PM | Report abuse

So Brandenburg was a union negotiator. DeBonis identified him that way in the Washington City Paper.

Why would the Post keep that information from readers?

Give readers the information. Let them decide if it is relevant to his credibility.

Posted by: frankb1 | March 2, 2011 10:42 PM | Report abuse

Looks like you're safe for now, Guy, deep research only turned up your volunteer union work.

My comments about your pet and your bank account were just clever guesses. Caught you!

Can't wait to see the results of your next number crunching.

Posted by: efavorite | March 2, 2011 10:52 PM | Report abuse

TexasIke59: "Oh, and Frankb1, what would you like to disclose about yourself?"

What do you what to know? We were both at Politics & Prose Feb. 20th, so we will alway have that shared experience.

Did Mathews know you were a former WTU negotiator?

Posted by: frankb1 | March 2, 2011 10:56 PM | Report abuse

willoughbyspit: Should the Post have informed readers of the fact that Brandenburg was a WTU negotiator? Or is this information irrelevant to the news story?

Posted by: frankb1 | March 2, 2011 11:07 PM | Report abuse

efavorite: "So, Frank - how long did you have to dig to pull up this tidbit from Brandenburg's sordid past?"

Not long. I'm holding on to the really good stuff, waiting for the right moment.

Posted by: frankb1 | March 2, 2011 11:11 PM | Report abuse

Debonis - come forward - you're now working for the Post. Why did you not insist that that Brandenburg be identified by his union label?

How could you keep this vital info from your fellow journalists?

Are you in on the nefarious scheme to misrepresent Brandenburg to the public?

Perhaps you weren't consulted and didn't think this info was so important?

Don't worry - Frankb has your back - and possibly your job, if you don't straighten up.

I have an idea to redeem yourself -- do your research and print a list of every current and retired DCPS teacher who's held a volunteer union position for the last 30 years.

The public has a right to know.

Posted by: efavorite | March 2, 2011 11:12 PM | Report abuse

B1, don't leave them guessing about your intelligence. Let it all hang out there.

Posted by: zebra22 | March 2, 2011 11:19 PM | Report abuse

Brandenburg - perhaps you should pre-emptively confess right now.

FrankB- thanks for getting in the spirit of things

Posted by: efavorite | March 2, 2011 11:24 PM | Report abuse

A conflict of interest occurs when an individual or organization is involved in multiple interests, one of which could possibly corrupt the motivation for an act in the other.

A conflict of interest can only exist if a person or testimony is entrusted with some impartiality; a modicum of trust is necessary to create it. The presence of a conflict of interest is independent from the execution of impropriety. Therefore, a conflict of interest can be discovered and voluntarily defused before any corruption occurs.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conflict_of_interest

Posted by: frankb1 | March 2, 2011 11:26 PM | Report abuse

So, as he has no opinion on whether or not Miss Rhee lied, frankb1 has no critique of Guy's analysis of the UMBC report except that Guy was on a WTU negotiating team.

Posted by: edlharris | March 2, 2011 11:26 PM | Report abuse

zebra22: I kinda like B1.

Posted by: frankb1 | March 2, 2011 11:32 PM | Report abuse

zebra22: I seem more intelligent in person.

Posted by: frankb1 | March 2, 2011 11:34 PM | Report abuse

zebra22: Usually by not saying much.

Posted by: frankb1 | March 2, 2011 11:35 PM | Report abuse

Hey Brandenburg--Thanks! Your research is always so impressive and enlightening that I've been wondering "Who IS this guy?" You must have been a helluva math teacher.

Posted by: bhorn1 | March 2, 2011 11:35 PM | Report abuse

The important question is why would the Post's education editor, Jay Mathews and Nick Anderson all conceal this information?

They knew Brandenburg was a WTU negotiator (DeBonis must have told them), they conspired to keep it from Post readers. I hate to say it, but I think they lied.

Posted by: frankb1 | March 2, 2011 11:49 PM | Report abuse

"Great minds discuss ideas; Average minds discuss events; Small minds discuss people. "

Yes, Frankb1 is very, very silent of the idea of truthfulness of Michelle Rhee. IS frankb1 now proposing this be appended to every first mention of Michelle Rhee by the news media:
Michelle Rhee, "who lied about her success as a classroom teacher in Baltimore",...

Instead, frankb1 wants a discussion of who Guy is or isn't. Well, then frankb1 ought to tell us who he/she/it is or isn't.

The handmaiden of the recently, and so thoroughly spanked Richard Whitmire, ought to own up.
Maybe frankb1 is Michelle in drag, or maybe Richard in drag?
Maybe Frederick Hess?


Congratulations to the fine comment of axolotl, who deemed to spend his/her/it 5~10 daily minutes of the Post with us.
We are all so much wealthier for the appearance.

Posted by: phillipmarlowe | March 2, 2011 11:50 PM | Report abuse

So where's the conflict? Is it wrong for a retired math teacher who analyzes public data to have once done union volunteer work? What other activities should union workers recuse themselves from?

How about when a former head of a teacher recruiting firm (The New Teacher Project) becomes a the head of a school district (DCPS), then fires and RIFs a bunch of current teachers and hires a bunch of new teachers from her old firm?

Posted by: efavorite | March 2, 2011 11:54 PM | Report abuse

I bet Jay would love to write a blog about his conspiracy to protect Brandenburg. Why don't you suggest it to him.

I bet he'd get a lot of comments on it.

Posted by: efavorite | March 2, 2011 11:59 PM | Report abuse

I believe some said they overheard frankb1 say this at RW meltdown at P&P:
"Trust is like a mirror, you can fix it if it's broken, but you can still see the crack in that m*&#@! f^%$#@'s reflection."

Posted by: phillipmarlowe | March 3, 2011 12:01 AM | Report abuse

Overheard on 15th Street NW near L.
JM: So, this data was examined by a former WTU negotiator. Undoubtably, he changed the data to make Michelle, my belle, look bad.
MDB: Yeah, so, let's cover this up and lie. Our mission is to destroy Rhee.
JM: Yeah, I'm mad because she went exclusive with Whitmire and cut me out.
MDB: Yeah, and she took my kid's principal, Patrick Pope out to get back at him. Anything's fair game.
JM: But what if Richard's handmaiden finds out we covered up?
MDB Hmmmmm.

Posted by: phillipmarlowe | March 3, 2011 12:08 AM | Report abuse

PS. Stage directions: (While speaking, JM and MDB are anxiously squeezing and rubbing their hands.)

Posted by: phillipmarlowe | March 3, 2011 12:11 AM | Report abuse

phillipmarlowe: "Maybe frankb1 is Michelle in drag, or maybe Richard in drag?"

I wore it as a Halloween costume (it was a big hit), and I haven't taken it off since.

Posted by: frankb1 | March 3, 2011 12:15 AM | Report abuse

The problem is the corruption has already occurred.

Posted by: frankb1 | March 3, 2011 12:23 AM | Report abuse

"Maybe frankb1 is Michelle in drag, or maybe Richard in drag?"

I wore it as a Halloween costume (it was a big hit), and I haven't taken it off since.

Posted by: frankb1
Scary


And smelly.

Appropriate, considering the stink you are avoiding.

Posted by: phillipmarlowe | March 3, 2011 12:55 AM | Report abuse

TexasIke59: "During one of the dozen or so WTU-DCPS contracts that were negotiated, about 10 years ago, I was invited by the WTU leadership at the time to serve as one of the volunteer, unpaid, members of the negotiating team. At every contract, several members like myself are traditionally invited to sit on the union side."

And the WTU leadership at the time was none other than James Baxter, Gwendolyn Hemphill, and Barbara Bullock....

....indicted on 27-counts for embezzling $4.6 million (and subsequent cover-up) .

It's getting very interesting, as information starts tricking in (and the extent of the conspiracy becomes clearer).

http://www.dcpswatch.com/wtu/031120.htm

Posted by: frankb1 | March 3, 2011 1:09 AM | Report abuse

Brandenburg owns a pretty big house, and drives a really nice car for a retired math teacher.

Posted by: frankb1 | March 3, 2011 1:12 AM | Report abuse

The Indictment alleges that the scheme was carried out first through the use of credit cards for lavish personal purchases and through the co-conspirators writing checks to themselves for false and fictitious services or reasons.

Posted by: frankb1 | March 3, 2011 1:15 AM | Report abuse

"The problem is the corruption has already occurred.

Posted by: frankb1 "

No, it hasn't.

You have yet to offer any thoughts on Miss Rhee and the falsehoods in her resume from 4 years ago, a resume containing "rookie" mistakes, according to your now silent head, Richard Whitmire.
Acclaim from the news media in and around 1995- silence from frank.
Test scores from supposedly showing 13th to 90th percentiles jumps by 63 students- That's OK by me, according to frankb1
Richard Whitmire had a disastrous appearance at P&P- oh no

What's next from frankb1?
Wondering if the paper the UMBC report was printed on is from WTU?
Did the WTU provide lunches for the researchers?
Did WTU provide the toner for the printers.

Frank1 is playing coy. A large segment of DC hated her because she was of Korean descent.
They are racists, birthers, haters says frank.

Frank is acting like Dylan's Mr. Jones.

Posted by: phillipmarlowe | March 3, 2011 1:15 AM | Report abuse

I'd venture that frankb1 is Whitmire.
Both write personal attacks with no regard for the truth.
If light is shined on the truth, they pull the plug.
Their's is a black and white world, in which are with them or against them.
If you are not with them, then they label you a racist, a thief, a pervert, an abuser

But continue your attacks frankb1 nee Whitmire.
Rhee's attack on Pope backfired like Voldemort's attack on Harry Potter and brought her and Fenty down.
And so will your attacks on Guy, Valerie and bill bring you down.

Those whispering at P&P will now whipser about you.

Posted by: phillipmarlowe | March 3, 2011 1:27 AM | Report abuse

Apparently, Brandenburg's major WTU contract negotiation role commenced about July 24, 1998 and ended sometime around July 13, 1999.


Here's a link to an audit of the WTU negotiations:

http://dcauditor.org/DCA/Reports/DCA2799%20Tentative%20Agreement%20Between%20Teachers%20Union%20and%20the%20D.pdf

Posted by: frankb1 | March 3, 2011 1:33 AM | Report abuse

Ah, Frankb1, what make, model, and year car do I drive? And how much did my house cost when my wife and I bought it -- and how many years ago?
Or are you confusing me with Rick Hess or Richard Whitmire?
GFBrandenburg aka TexasIke

Posted by: TexasIke59 | March 3, 2011 7:18 AM | Report abuse

Most people support teachers and public workers in general to have a union. That's a good thing.

As the anit-semite HL Menchen wrote, the law is an ass, you have to drag it where it's needed. Unions provide the worker some help getting the law to work for him. "The Man" has all the tools to start with so it's fair to help out the other guy.

I'm hoping this over reaching in WI is beaten back. I am hoping OH backs down on its aggression against the teacher and workers in general.

Finally, I am hoping the dilettante billionaires get out of education because, like the guy with only a hammer for a tool, every problem looks like a nail. Schools are not businesses.

Posted by: zebra22 | March 3, 2011 7:43 AM | Report abuse

Whitmire is a hack,
Who rides on the hunched shoulders
Of Frank's dreary back.

Posted by: DHume1 | March 3, 2011 8:32 AM | Report abuse

I saw a toilet,
And I remembered you, Frank,
For Whitmire's droplet.

Posted by: DHume1 | March 3, 2011 8:36 AM | Report abuse

Frank's hypocrisy:
It is just another form
Of autocracy.

Posted by: DHume1 | March 3, 2011 8:46 AM | Report abuse

Using unions to hold education hostage is nearing community crime. I take work where I can get it and I accept the territory as part of the salary and opportunities. Unions see this as an opportunity to construct the territy to their liking. Somewhat like a community landscaping group.

Unions use their membership to determine their pay, the public "fair share", and to a large extent American children's education. So if we do not like where we are heading in education, why are we debating/haggling/negotiating anything?

I understand unions, but this is not about government vs. education vs. unions. This should be about customers vs. servers. The decision is to determine who is who!

Posted by: jbeeler | March 3, 2011 8:49 AM | Report abuse

There must be a reporter/blogger somewhere out there that I can convince to write a blurb about this Brandenburg conflict of interest. To get the ball rolling. Anybody got any suggestions?

Posted by: frankb1 | March 3, 2011 8:56 AM | Report abuse

Whitmire.
He's shameless.

Posted by: edlharris | March 3, 2011 9:29 AM | Report abuse

Title: Again

Conflict of interest?
No, Frank, you have confused your
Brain for an anus.

Posted by: DHume1 | March 3, 2011 9:50 AM | Report abuse

edlharris: "Whitmire. He's shameless"

Nah...can't be him.

Posted by: frankb1 | March 3, 2011 9:53 AM | Report abuse

Frankb1 activated his account with the Post back around Feb 2nd.
This was about the time The Bee Eater came out.
Since then, he has spent most of his time defending Miss Rhee and attacking those who don't believe or support her.

He has also posted some strange stuff like this:
"We know students and their parents lie all the time." Feb 9th

and

"D.C. remains at the bottom of urban districts that participate in the NAEP reading and math tests. Maybe ... the kids are just too dumb to learn." Feb 12th

Sounds like many a Rhee defender.

Posted by: phillipmarlowe | March 3, 2011 12:59 PM | Report abuse

phillipmarlowe: Come on, I've posted way stranger stuff that that!

Posted by: frankb1 | March 3, 2011 2:43 PM | Report abuse

Post a Comment

We encourage users to analyze, comment on and even challenge washingtonpost.com's articles, blogs, reviews and multimedia features.

User reviews and comments that include profanity or personal attacks or other inappropriate comments or material will be removed from the site. Additionally, entries that are unsigned or contain "signatures" by someone other than the actual author will be removed. Finally, we will take steps to block users who violate any of our posting standards, terms of use or privacy policies or any other policies governing this site. Please review the full rules governing commentaries and discussions.




characters remaining

 
 
RSS Feed
Subscribe to The Post

© 2011 The Washington Post Company