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New Ramirez Offer, Same Ramirez Result

Just when you thought there might be some movement on the Manny Ramirez front, we find out that there officially isn't any ... and there might not be for awhile.

Monday afternoon, Dodgers GM Ned Colletti confirmed that the team had offered the slugging outfielder a second offer, this time extending a one-year, $25 million deal, complete with a 48-hour deadline to accept or reject it, outright.

Well, Ramirez and agent Scott Boras did exactly what you'd think they'd do: According to Dylan Hernandez of the Los Angeles Times, they rejected it summarily.

So, let's see if we've got the entire story straight. There's only one known suitor for Ramirez; the Dodgers. They've offered deals worth $25 million for a single year and $22.5 million for two years. He's rejected both deals without further negotiation.

Obviously, there's a single clear question here: What does Boras know that everyone else doesn't?

That seems impossible to tell. The only other teams with possible interest cited are the Mets, Giants and Nationals, though all three have denied interest in Ramirez at varying stages of free agency. Since then, the Giants have openly postulated making a run at Ramirez, though San Francisco claims it would only sign Ramirez under terms that make sense for them. Mets GM Omar Minaya has lusted after Ramirez in the past, but has denied the team has any interest in him throughout recent days.

As for the Nationals, GM Jim Bowden has consistently said Ramirez doesn't fit with the team's long term plan. That's certainly true, but it also could be a negotiating ploy to set the stage for Washington to swoop in and steal Ramirez without giving the Dodgers a chance to match their offer.

Probably not, but Nats fans can always dream, can't they?

By Cameron Smith  |  February 3, 2009; 4:34 AM ET
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No, we can nightmare.

Except Brue. He can dream of seeing the flowing dreadlocks and sweet swing. At least we have Manny's Mini-Me, a veritable pillar of our infield.

Posted by: jca-CrystalCity | February 3, 2009 9:09 AM | Report abuse

Yeah, what jca said.

Posted by: natsfan1a1 | February 3, 2009 9:22 AM | Report abuse

Is there a way we could send the Dodgers a couple $mil, so they'd sign Ramirez and end ANY possibility he comes here? Plus, if you think that way, it might cause Dunn to confront his destiny for '09, "Batting #4 for Washington and plaing first base...."

Posted by: advocate2 | February 3, 2009 10:04 AM | Report abuse

I don't think this is Boras' doing. The fact the deal was rejected in one hour makes me think Man-Ram said hell no to the deal. Boras has a tendency to squeeze every last minute out of a deal.

Manny went into this off-season wanting a 6 year deal. He's stubborn, so a 1 or 2 year deal isn't going to please him. After spring training starts his mindset might change, but I don't think we'll see him taking any deal less than 3 years until then.

Posted by: adampschroeder | February 3, 2009 11:00 AM | Report abuse

Yeah, God forbid we sign one of the most exciting players in the history of the game. That'd be terrible...

Posted by: pondaz | February 3, 2009 11:05 AM | Report abuse

Signing Manny would be one of the dumbest things the Nats could do. Oh God, please don't let the Nats sign him. He's not even close to worth it, no matter how good he is.

And what will it get us? A lot of media buzz, more attendance but he sure as hell won't make us a play-off team. And he's 37, he will decline and soon. By the time we're good enough for it to matter, he won't be the same player.

Posted by: Avar | February 3, 2009 11:44 AM | Report abuse

Indeed. We wouldn't want more than 10k people watching a game on TV on any given night or have crowds who get excited at least three or four times a game. We wouldn't want to add a guy who helps all the other hitters around him and who has been a winner everywhere he's gone. Please keep him away! The horror! The horror!

Posted by: pondaz | February 3, 2009 1:37 PM | Report abuse

No one can honestly deny that Manny has been a great player in many seasons, and, if he cares, can make a good team better. I would even concede he would offer something to a team like the Orioles of recent years or the Royals, teams not going anywhere, having no plan and just looking to entertain the fans with this year's squad.

He makes no sense for a team trying to develop young players with a positive attitude. He doesn't get the Nats into the post season. Whatever protection he offers Zimmerman in the line up, he takes away with his prima donna club house antics. And Willy Mo can butcher a fly to left every bit as well for a fraction of the price.

Posted by: advocate2 | February 3, 2009 2:17 PM | Report abuse

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