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BTN: Dennis Kucinich

Dennis Kucinich, who reportedly ended his 2008 White House quest today, never had much traction with voters. Here's a glimpse Behind the Numbers.

Kucinich got zero delegates out of the Iowa caucuses and finished fifth in the New Hampshire primary with 1 percent of the vote. In Michigan, he was third in the smaller field, getting 4 percent. He placed fifth in the Nevada caucuses, picking up five delegates.

Highest point in a Post-ABC national poll: 3 percent.

In a June Pew Research Center poll, more than six in 10 registered voters said they had never heard of the Ohio congressman. Among those who had, he had a higher "reject rate" than any other potential candidate tested in the poll. Nearly three-quarters of those familiar with Kucinich said there was "no chance" they would support him. Among Democrats and Democratic-leaning independents, 71 percent said they would not support him under any circumstance.

By Jon Cohen  |  January 24, 2008; 5:39 PM ET
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I voted for him in the 2004 D.C. primary. I figured many of the big names weren't running and, what the hell, why not. I think he got about 750 votes then.

Good luck Dennis and keep following those UFOs!

Posted by: andrewgerst | January 24, 2008 6:12 PM | Report abuse

who gets his five delegates from Nevada?

Posted by: thecrisis | January 24, 2008 6:24 PM | Report abuse

Kucinich withdraws from the 2008 campaign and throws his hat in for the 2012 campaign. He is already the front runner for 2012.

Posted by: Steve | January 24, 2008 6:24 PM | Report abuse

Dennis is the man. The only candidate not controlled by the big money interests. He grew up dirt poor and tells it like it really is... good for him to drop out now and head back to the evil capital hill and chase down those phonies...

Posted by: nigm | January 24, 2008 6:25 PM | Report abuse

Kucinich seems to have had a small but devoted following in California--something like 3% in recent polls of Democrats, who I would presume hail mainly from the Bay Area. Assuming that these folks don't now gravitate to someone/something truly loony, or just drop out demoralized, will they give Obama a little more to help out in his Sooper-Dooper Tuesday showdown with Hillary?

Posted by: jm917 | January 24, 2008 6:29 PM | Report abuse

Well, now the only good candidate left on the Democratic side is Mike Gravel. Hopefully Kucinich will run again in 2012.

Posted by: ec56 | January 24, 2008 6:51 PM | Report abuse

It's a shame that the only guy who sees through the bs, speaks the truth, has the balls to call for impeachment, votes honestly and according to his platform, isn't bought by corporate interests... it's a shame for our democracy that a guy like that doesn't any support in the U.S.. enjoy the reign of Bush and Cheney, and Hillary or Obama. we get the democrazy we deserve

Posted by: mattb | January 24, 2008 6:54 PM | Report abuse

Dennis was and is the only true liberal out there. He ran to make the true lefts messages a part of the discussion. As Clinton and Obama fight to be the center, Dennis helped remind the Dems that we need to get out of Iraq, we need a single payer health care and most importantly we need to bring the liberals back to the Democratic Party. We will miss you sir and hope that you will continue to help change the dialog of the house towards the issues that really matter.

Posted by: Al | January 24, 2008 6:59 PM | Report abuse

Sad, I am.
The commercial media didn't report fairly on Kucinich. Most people I know admired him and would have supported him as president. My sadness comes in realizing that monied interests, including mass media, have a deepening chokehold on American democracy, and they are squeezing it tighter and tighter. Including the owners of the Post, ABC, NBC, the Des Moines Register, etc. etc.
It's time to hold a funeral for American democracy and fair play, buried by the corporate media. R.I.P., democracy and freedom (at least in America).
Kucinich is a genuine American hero, one of the few left. Bless him for his honesty, sincerity and basic goodness: all so rare in US politics in all the parties.

Posted by: djaguar | January 24, 2008 7:04 PM | Report abuse

Seems like most of us ordinary Americans want what Kucinich does. Universal single-payer health care, an end to the costly, bloody involvement in Iraq at all deliberate speed, impeachment of Cheney and Bush, restoration of the Constitution so shredded by Bush, Cheney and weak Democrats alike, an end to warrantless domestic spying, an end to politicization of intelligence and courts, an end to torture and abuse of prisoners, a return to realistic multilateral foreign policy sanity. For his being right on all these issues, the "Loyal Bushies" slime Kucinich as a "loonie". What kind of rotten country have we become, people, to let the GOP get away with their lies and defamation?

Posted by: Anonymous | January 24, 2008 7:21 PM | Report abuse

Losing Kucinich means losing meaningful and important ideas in the campaign dialogue.

Keep hope alive, and phase faceless corporate media out, in favor of blogs written by individuals with some sense of accountability.

Posted by: James | January 24, 2008 7:22 PM | Report abuse

The one TRUE Democrat is out of the race.

Who will now be the voice of the people in 2008? Will _____ _____ announce soon?

Posted by: Jurgen Vsych | January 24, 2008 7:33 PM | Report abuse

I was actually torn about whether to vote for Kucinich or Obama in the primary. I agree more with Kucinich and find him more respectable as a human being, but Obama more likely to succeed as pres. I think the more that Dems learn about Kucinich, the more impressed they would be. We need him and his ideas in this process.

Posted by: 4241 | January 24, 2008 8:14 PM | Report abuse

I like the entire Democrat(ic) field - but Kucinich and Chris Dodd were the best candidates out here this year.

That leaves Edwards, Hillary, and Obama, in that order.

I can live with that - but I'll miss Dennis Kucinich.

Jonnan

Posted by: Jonnan | January 24, 2008 8:31 PM | Report abuse

I was a Kucinich supporter in 2004 and am now disappointed that I will not be able to support him in February. Indeed, he is a visionary, much like Nader. Also like Nader, Kucinich illicits fear by those who fear change and therefore stands little chance against the cookie-cutter candidates that we are now trying to choose between. I am embarrassed by my countrymen, by the masses that would stand blind to the imperative for change. I am embarrassed that the majority is "moderate" and that we allow our monopolistic media and corporations to choose our futures for us. I am embarrassed that 6 out of 10 Americans have not even heard of a candidate for the US presidency. If we are such an individualistic people, why are we choosing the most generic people to run our country and letting the media (with their own interests for "mediocracy") narrow it down for us? I'll tell you why it's a good thing Dennis Kucinich is dropping out of the race... He will be a great asset come 2012, and it may not be for the presidency (whatever you believe about the predictions for that year).

Posted by: Ian | January 24, 2008 8:51 PM | Report abuse

Dennis has the best looking wife. What is really important anyway?

Posted by: mnjam | January 24, 2008 9:07 PM | Report abuse

John Edwards is the remaining (viable) candidate who's views are closest to Kucinich's: http://www.politicalcompass.org/usprimaries2008. While Gravel's positions are closer to Kucinich's (though further "left"), Gravel has not yet garnered any delegates and has finished behind Kucinich in every caucus/primary to date - hence I believe his own withdrawal imminent.

Edwards, however, has been gaining in recent polling and still has a viable chance to win the nomination and the election. Like Kucinich, the policies he's set forth have helped to shape the platforms of the more "centrist" Obama and Clinton, and have (thankfully) moved the Democratic party back toward its true core. He is the real progressive amongst those three, and the only person focused on issues of economic and social justice, environmental responsibility, and true transformative change for this country.

Posted by: libelian | January 24, 2008 9:10 PM | Report abuse

Ron Paul and Dennis Kucinich can create a large exodus of the base from their respective parties and into the welcoming arms of the green party!
Without a foundation and an identity the superstructure of the two major parties will crumble! After of which, the Democrats and Republicans will regroup and become one party! The party of the Military Industrial Complex and the party of continious war for profit!
This occurrence will thrust the Green Party into the MAINSTREAM and they will become the opposition to the " Big Business Special Interest War Party!"

Posted by: Richard Walters | January 24, 2008 10:02 PM | Report abuse

what a negative look at "the numbers!"

how about this from the Nation:

KUCINICH TOPS PROGRESSIVE DEMOCRATS POLL...Ohio Congressman Dennis Kucinich, whose pointed opposition to the war in Iraq and outspoken advocacy of impeachment of Vice President Cheney has echoed the sentiments of the Democratic base, continues to prevail in surveys of members and supporters of activist groups on the party's left flank.

http://www.thenation.com/blogs/campaignmatters?pid=257054

Kucinich, who last month won the most votes in a survey conducted by Democracy for America, has now come out on top of an online poll of members of Progressive Democrats for America. Kucinich's strong showing in the PDA survey will not, in and of itself, bring the congressman any closer to the top tier of contenders in the race for the Democratic presidential nomination. But it provides him with new arguments for why his campaign matters, especially to the party activists who do the heavy lifting at the grassroots.

OR in the Democracy for America straw poll, he received nearly one third of the 150,000 votes cast:


KUCINICH WINS DFA ONLINE POLL...Now that Dennis Kucinich has finished first in a major survey of Democratic activists, perhaps Democratic party bosses and their media acolytes will have to back off their efforts to marginalize him.

No, Kucinich's top-place finish in the Democracy for America online survey that attracted serious attention from major campaigns and drew more than 150,000 voters does not mean the anti-war congressman from Ohio is on a fast track to the nomination. But it does mean that Kucinich is displayed an ability to attract meaningful support from the party's activist base and that his "Democratic-wing-of-the-Democratic-Party" message has appeal.

Kucinich did not secure the 66-percent of the vote required to gain an official endorsement from DFA, the group founded by supporters of former Vermont Governor Howard Dean's 2004 presidential bid and their allies on the party's left flank. But he easily bested the other candidates and the unannounced "contender" who led in the early voting, former Vice President Al Gore.

The final totals were:

Kucinich 31.97% 49364

Al Gore 24.77% 38242

Former Senator John Edwards 15.6% 24078

Senator Barack Obama 13.86% 21403

Senator Hillary Clinton 4.21% 6504

Governor Bill Richardson 4.09% 6309

Other 2.05% 3171

Senator Christopher Dodd 1.56% 2415

Senator Joe Biden 1.12% 1723

Former Senator Mike Gravel 0.77% 1182


http://www.thenation.com/blogs/campaignmatters?bid=45&pid=249126


"It is no secret that the powers that be in the party leadership and the boardrooms of the major networks have fixated on Clinton as the likely nominee. Nor is it any secret that the party and media bosses would prefer to drop Kucinich from the roster of Democratic contenders who must be invited to join debates and participate in major events such as the Iowa Democratic Party's Jefferson-Jackson Day dinner. Gravel was excluded from the most recent Democratic debate at Drexel University and moderator Tim Russert did everything he could during the course of that debate to read Kucinich out of the running. "

Kucinich is CLEARLY the change candidate....way too independent for the party bosses of the Demos

(though the DFA once supported howard dean, chairperson humph!

Posted by: bloggod | January 24, 2008 10:22 PM | Report abuse

and i was thinking of registering as a democrat just to vote for dennis in Oregon's primary.


now? not a chance.

if the donkey wants my precious vote, they better learn how to take a righteous stance.

Posted by: bloggod | January 24, 2008 10:26 PM | Report abuse

From someone that supported Bruce Babbit in 1998, God bless you Dennis, and thank you for your candid and open consideration of the issues in this nomination process.
Now, please send you delegates to Obama. You, I, and the rest of rational, compassionate America know that he is a worthy recipient.
Kindest Regards,
Scott L.
Fairport, NY

Posted by: Scott | January 24, 2008 11:12 PM | Report abuse

Bloggod - I echo your post, BTN casts a typically negative and "nonviable" patina over Dennis. One other anecdotal stat - DK scored high or at the top in the exit polls of the debates in which he was allowed to participate.

After having a glimmer of hope that the articulate and intelligent Dennis would at least be heard in the debates, I am once again disillusioned by this same old MSM BS. In spite of the public overwhelmingly wanting him in the 2000 debates they excluded Ralph Nader in similar fashion. I voted for Nader because he pointed out that the two major parties are essentially the same. That best represented my view and I feel that if more people could follow that, and more importantly be made aware of dissenting views (a big reason for my support of DK), then we would be on our way to real CHANGE.

It is depressing, not to mention dichotomous, that the U.S. Supreme Court can rule that campaign contributions are a form of protected free speech, but the two dominant political parties can conspire with the dominant corporatist media to shut out a dissenting voice from the free exchange of ideas. Squeezing DK out is once again cowardice of the highest order on the part of the MSM and the Democratic Party as well. I for one am through with them. I will not vote for their nominee. I am now convinced that Americans need things to get worse before they get better. People just aren't listening, and these middling campaigners, satisfying as a bowl of ramen noodles, are proof. They are caterers of a bland buffet of mashed potatoes with chicken gravy, cauliflower and navy beans. This country gets what it deserves for gorging at the Beltway sheep trough. Clinton or Obama, if they can out-juke the Rove juggernaut, will only be a band-aid for the ills that conservatism has wreaked (heck, any president can only do so much).

PUBLICLY-FINANCED ELECTIONS NOW ! ! ! !

Posted by: O'Tim | January 25, 2008 1:45 AM | Report abuse

All democrats: check out this video:

Attention Democrat Voters: Democracy
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JnP9gBNR0pk

Posted by: Nick Irving | January 25, 2008 11:01 AM | Report abuse

From my own pretty left-wing perspective, I laughed at bloggod's comment on how popular Kucinich is. Basically it consisted of going to a Kucinich supporters club and taking the survey there to indicate how poplar he is. Sorry, bg, you have to ask the whole population if you want to get elected.

I'm glad he ran, raised some good issues, shifted the framing a little, but he was never going to win, and threats to his Congress seat mean he should spend more time on that constituency. He's still needed for leftward breadth in Congress.

Posted by: Joffan | January 25, 2008 1:28 PM | Report abuse

I would like to contact Dennis Kucinich personally. I supported him though I knew he probably would not win because I wanted him to know I appreciated his ideas, values, and courage. His e-mail address would be fine. Thanks very much. Mary Sullivan snjmthedalles@gorge.net

Posted by: Mary Sullivan, (snjmthedalles@gorge.net | January 25, 2008 4:51 PM | Report abuse

i don't think i overstated kucinich's popularity.

that he has a large percentage of voting progressives certainly is no small accomplishment, as standards are often held to a christlike level of likeability.
and again, howard dean, little govenor man...now head of the DNC.

and i agree, his work needs to be done; it was wise to get back to matters at hand...

go dennis!

Posted by: Anonymous | January 25, 2008 10:30 PM | Report abuse

Skewed reporting as usual. ABC manipulated poll numbers when Kucinich looked to be pulling ahead. He is more popular than they want you to believe.

Posted by: Brigid | January 26, 2008 8:35 PM | Report abuse

From Artnews: Let's go back to the early stages of the race, when ABC hosted a full debate with the top 10 Democratic contenders. An ABC news poll showed viewers choosing Kucinich as the winner by a large margin, with 34 percent believing he bested Obama (22 percent), Clinton (14 percent) and Edwards (4 percent). Most polls are of questionable accuracy, but this one was conducted by the same organization that later contradicted its own findings by declaring that Kucinich didn't have enough support to warrant inclusion in subsequent debates. Kucinich was still polling strong in November when CSPAN's viewers chose him as the clear winner of a seven-way debate. In that poll, 41 percent of those queried chose Kucinich as the winner, compared to 18 percent for Clinton, 15 percent for Obama and five percent for Edwards.

Posted by: Ed Stamm | January 27, 2008 6:46 AM | Report abuse

Sorry, that was "Artvoice"!

Posted by: Ed Stamm | January 27, 2008 6:58 AM | Report abuse

I mirror all the comments made to the high caliber of Dennis' person and the deplorable way he was diminished and biased in the press and pushed and shoved around at every turn.

We should stop telling our school children the boldfaced lie that anyone can grow up to become President of the United States. And know Disney was instrumental in tearing down that ideal is a twist of the knife.

Dennis' message was a strong one and each of his supporters were steadfast in loyalty. I would proudly call him my Commander in Chief. Not because he promised an easy path to our goals, but that he promised a path to our goals with clear direction and vision.

I, too, am overwhelmingly sad for our loss. The loss of Dennis in the race for the Presidency and the loss of our democracy. The shibboloeth for the coming days is trust no-one.

You have not just kicked sand in Dennis Kucinich's face - you have insulted the intelligence of every citizen of America.

Posted by: wanda o'reilly | January 27, 2008 3:45 PM | Report abuse

Dennis Kucinich was the only intelligent life form in the primary. The media is to blame for his anonymity. Stupid crap about UFOs makes easier news guffaw than a discussion about the very serious and real issues facing our country--

Kucinich was the only candidate who voted against the war and had real plans for dealing with environmental problems, health care, etc.

We're doomed folks. Whats it going to be McCain versus Clinton? Why not just combine them: Mc Clinton.


Posted by: mel | January 27, 2008 7:56 PM | Report abuse

i am not a politico, don't read the blogs, and i have liberal friends here in los angeles who are all about obama. they think kucinich is that "guy who believes in ufos, right?". why is THAT the only thing they've heard about him? what's wrong with us? from my dim-witted corner months ago i said it'd probably end up being clinton vs mccain, they have the most presidential-sounding names. ugh.

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